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WE'RE OKAY, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

WE'RE READY.

I'M READY TO PROCEED.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CONVENE THE WORK SESSION OF THE HAMBURG ON BOARD TO ORDER FOR JUNE THE EIGHTH, 2020.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT, PLEASE? SECOND.

SECOND.

UH, ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THE MOTION IS CARRIED.

FOLKS, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA THAT PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS.

UH, THE FIRST THING I'D LIKE TO DO IS TURN THIS OVER TO JENNIFER ROBERTSON, OUR IT DIRECTOR.

SHE HAD ANOTHER PROPOSAL THAT SHE WOULD WANT US TO CONSIDER AT OUR NEXT BOARD MEETING, WHICH IS SET FOR THE 26TH OF JUNE IN ORDER TO GET DIALOGUE GOING AMONG THE FIVE OF US.

I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO PERMIT JENNIFER TO GO FORWARD AND OFFER SOME EXPLANATION AS TO THE RATIONALE FOR WHAT SHE WANTS TO DO.

SO, JEN, IF YOU'D LIKE TO PROCEED, THAT WOULD BE FINE.

WELL, THANK YOU.

UM, SO PART OF THE IT NETWORK INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT WAS, UM, I GUESS TO START OFF.

SO PHASE ONE OF THE IT INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND WE'RE NOW ON PHASE TWO.

UH, PHASE TWO INCORPORATES, UH, DIFFERENT COMPONENTS SUCH AS REPLACING OUR HARD, OUR WORKSTATION HARDWARE SUCH AS THE TOWERS, OUR MONITORS, OUR EMAIL, UM, OUR UPGRADING OUR SWITCHES.

UM, SO WHICH IS THE MOST, MOST EXPENSIVE COMPONENT OF THIS ENTIRE PROJECT.

UM, SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, THE PRELIMINARY FIGURES THAT I HAVE FIGURED OUT, UM, THE PROJECT IN TOTAL WOULD COST I'M IN A MEETING BE QUIET, WOULD COST APPROXIMATELY $298.

UM, BUT PORTIONS OF THAT PROJECT ARE GOING TO BE FUNDED THROUGH FUNDS THAT WERE ENCUMBERED OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS IN ADDITION TO, UM, MONEY THAT IS AVAILABLE, UM, FROM THIS YEAR'S 2020 BUDGET.

SO WE WOULD BE, SO WITH TAKING THE FUNDS THAT ARE ALREADY, UM, AVAILABLE, THE TOTAL THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO FINANCE WOULD BE ABOUT 224,375.

THE POSITIVE COMPONENT TO THAT LARGE NUMBER IS THAT THOSE FUNDS CAN BE FINANCED A PORTION OF IT FOR THREE YEARS, AND THE SECOND PORTION FOR FIVE, UM, AND THE FIVE YEAR LEASE WOULD BE FOR THE COST OF THE SWITCHES.

UM, AND IF THE DECISION IS MADE BY THE 20, UH, 2ND OF JUNE, UM, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO FINANCE THAT LARGER PORTION AT FIVE YEARS AT 0% INTEREST.

UM, AND THEY WOULD ALSO GIVE US A 90 DAY, UH, DEFERRED PAYMENT OPTION.

SO, UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'VE ALSO BEEN WORKING ON SOME FINANCIAL INITIATIVES, UM, TO HELP COVER, UH, THOSE NEW LEASE PAYMENTS THAT WOULD BE UP AND COMING OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.

UM, SO JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, I'VE BEEN FAC WORKING ON FACILITATING A CELL PHONE BUYBACK PROGRAM.

UM, ALSO, UM, WORKING WITH A COMPANY, UM, IN ROCHESTER, WHICH IS AN ASSET DISPOSAL COMPANY, WHERE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO, UM, ESTABLISH A RELATIONSHIP FOR A BUYBACK PROGRAM THERE WHERE WE WOULD GET 40% OF THE NET PROFIT FROM THE SALE OF THE MATERIAL.

UM, AND THEN WE WOULD BE PAYABLE WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE SALE OF THE EQUIPMENT.

IN ADDITION, I THINK THAT ONE OF THE BIGGEST

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COST SAVINGS I THINK THAT WE'LL HAVE IS IF WE CAN START LOOKING AT HOW MANY PERSONAL PRINTERS, UM, ARE BEING UTILIZED THROUGHOUT THE TOWN AND TRYING TO, UM, ELIMINATE THOSE.

I THINK THERE'S A HUGE COST SAVINGS THERE WITH THE PURCHASE OF TONER, UM, AND TRY TO HAVE DEPARTMENTS UTILIZING COPIERS ONLY.

AND THEN JUST BASICALLY LOOKING AT THE FUNDS THAT I CURRENTLY HAVE WITHIN MY BUDGET LINES, UM, WHERE I WOULD BE ABLE TO MAYBE MERGE LINES THAT WERE USED FOR, UM, EQUIPMENT PURCHASE, UM, AND, UM, UH, THINGS THAT I LINES THAT I WOULD BASICALLY USE TO BUY PARTS FOR, FOR THE TOWN, FOR OUR NETWORK INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE REPLACING SUCH A LARGE MAJORITY OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE, I FEEL THAT WE COULD A FEW OF THE LINES TO BE ABLE TO OFFSET SOME OF THE COST OF THESE ANNUAL PAYMENT.

THE, UH, ANNUAL LEASE PAYMENTS THAT WOULD BE, WOULD BE NEW.

UM, THE UPGRADES THAT I'M PROPOSING ARE, ARE AN ESSENTIAL, IT'S A NECESSITY FOR THE TOWN AT THIS POINT.

UM, A LOT OF THE HARDWARE IS OUTDATED, UM, AND IN ORDER FOR US TO, UM, FUNCTION AT A CAPACITY THAT'S NECESSARY, UM, THE UPGRADES ARE NEEDED.

THE TECHNOLOGY COMMITTEE DID MEET ON JUNE 3RD, AND AFTER THE PROPOSAL FOR PHASE TWO WAS REVIEWED, EVERYBODY ON THE COMMITTEE AGREED THAT IT WAS A PROJECT THAT, UM, ONLY IMPACTS EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT WITHIN THE TOWN.

UM, BUT ALSO A, A, A NEED FOR, IT'S A NECESSITY IN THE, IN THE FACT THAT IF WE DON'T DO IT, WE'RE GONNA SEE REPERCUSSIONS DOWN THE LINE, UM, ESPECIALLY WITH OUR DISPATCH DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, JUST BECAUSE EQUIPMENT AGES OUT.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I WANTED TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION WITH YOU ALL, AND I, I'VE SPOKEN WITH SOME OF YOU ALREADY, UM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

WE, THE IT DEPARTMENT ENDED UP REPLACING THE FIREWALLS BACK BEFORE COVID STARTED.

IF WE HADN'T DONE THAT TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY AND SIZE OF OUR FIREWALLS, UM, WE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES WORKING REMOTELY FROM HOME BECAUSE OUR NETWORK WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO, UM, SUPPORT THAT TYPE OF REMOTE WORK.

UM, AND, AND A LOT OF THESE COMPONENTS TO THIS PROJECT, UM, WILL BRING THE TOWN UP TO MODERN DAY TECHNOLOGY, UM, AND MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT AND, AND, AND EFFECTIVE FOR PEOPLE TO WORK AND DO THEIR EVERYDAY JOB.

OKAY.

UH, LEMME ASK YOU, UH, JENNIFER, UH, WOULD YOU BE CIRCULATING A MEMO TO THE BOARD MEMBERS SO THAT WE CAN KICK IT AROUND WITH YOU BETWEEN NOW AND OUR NEXT MEETING ON THE 22ND? I HAVE ALREADY SENT THAT MEMO OUT, UH, AT FOUR O'CLOCK TODAY.

OH, WONDERFUL.

OKAY.

UH, SECONDLY, UH, A DECISION ON YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS WILL HAVE TO MADE BY, WHEN IT'LL HAVE TO BE MADE THE NIGHT OF OUR JUNE 22ND MEETING.

WE HAVE TO AT LEAST FOR THE, UM, SWITCHES COMPONENT OF THE PROJECT IN ORDER FOR US TO GET THE LEASE TERMS THAT, UM, THEY'VE OFFERED US.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, THE LEASE TERMS WON'T HOLD IF WE DON'T ACT IMMEDIATELY, UH, ON THE 22ND.

WE CAN'T WAIT TILL THE MEETING JULY, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? CORRECT.

CORRECT.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS YOU WANNA RAISE OR MIKE PETRI.

HI, MIKE.

JENNIFER.

HEY.

UM, SO DO YOU THINK, I KNOW YOU, YOU'RE TRYING TO CUT COST AND, AND TAKE MONEY FROM OTHER PLACES TO PAY FOR THIS.

UH, DO YOU THINK THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO KEEP IT, THE COST OF THIS SELF-CONTAINED TO YOUR BUDGET AS IT IS, OR DO YOU THINK YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE ADDITIONAL FUNDS IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET AND BEYOND? I'M DOING EVERYTHING THAT I CAN TO TRY TO KEEP THE COST OF THIS PROJECT WITHIN THE IT DEPARTMENT WITHOUT HAVING TO, UM, LOOK ELSEWHERE FOR FUNDING, UM, OR ASK FOR FUNDING.

UH, IT'S, I DON'T, I'M WORKING ON SOME NUMBERS, UM, WHICH I'M HOPING TO HAVE TO YOU BY NEXT WEEK THURSDAY.

UM, AS FAR AS LOOKING AT HOW MUCH ANNUALLY WE, THE TOWN WITH WHAT I CONTROL AS FAR AS THE PURCHASE OF, UM, TONER AND SEE, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH WILL THAT IMPACT MY BUDGET AS FAR AS THE SAVINGS CONCERNED,

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AS WELL AS REEVALUATING ALL TOWN EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE TOWN CELL PHONES AND SEEING WHETHER OR NOT, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'VE USED THEM OVER THE LAST, YOU KNOW, SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS.

AND WHETHER WE CAN JUSTIFY INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE PHONES, UH, WHETHER IT'S WORTH THE MONTHLY COST FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE, THOSE PEOPLE, IN ADDITION, LOOKING AT PEOPLE WHO HAVE PHONES THAT MAY NOT NECESSARILY NEED THEM.

UM, AND ARE, ARE THERE ALTERNATIVE WAYS? AND I ACTUALLY HAD A CONVERSATION WITH ROGER, UM, LAST WEEK ABOUT HIS DEPARTMENT AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE WOULD BE THE OPTION TO MAYBE, UM, ELIMINATE PHONES IN HIS DEPARTMENT AND GO BACK TO USING RADIO SINCE THOSE ARE ACCESSIBLE IN THE VEHICLES.

UM, SO I WILL HAVE A BETTER IDEA.

BUT, UM, LOOKING AT NUMBERS AS OF NOW, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT $58,000 A YEAR, WHICH IS WHAT THE TWO LEASE TOTALS WOULD AMOUNT TO IF I MERGED THE BUDGET LINES THAT I ANTICIPATE, UM, NOT BEING ABLE TO, NOT HAVING TO DIP INTO AND PUT THOSE TOWARDS A LEASE.

IT LOOKS LIKE THE, UM, THE SHORTFALL'S ABOUT $24,000.

SO I'M HOPING WITH THE INITIATIVES THAT I'M LOOKING INTO AS FAR AS THE BUYBACK PROGRAMS AND, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT WHETHER WE CAN CUT COSTS IN CERTAIN AREAS, UM, I'M, I'M DOING EVERYTHING THAT I CAN, UM, TO TRY TO CLOSE THAT GAP WITHOUT HAVING TO COME TO THE BOARD.

BUT AT THIS POINT, I DON'T HAVE A HUNDRED PERCENT GUARANTEE I CAN DO THAT ALL ON MY OWN.

OKAY.

WELL, WE'RE GONNA KNOW MORE NEXT WEEK THEN.

I, I HOPE, JEN, WHEN YOU GET SOME OF THE NUMBERS TOGETHER, RIGHT? YES.

OKAY.

AND JIM, I JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY TALK ON THAT.

UM, I DID HAVE A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH THE NUMBERS THAT, UH, JENNIFER, UM, SO HER AND I HAD A DISCUSSION LINE BY LINE OF THE EXPENDITURES AND, UH, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY JUST LIKE ALL OF US, I WAS ASKING THE QUESTIONS AS TO, IS THIS SOMETHING NECESSARY? IS THIS NOT NECESSARY? IS THERE A WAY TO SAVE MORE MONEY? IS THERE A WAY TO DELAY, YOU KNOW, THE PURCHASE? UM, AND REALLY I THINK WHAT SHE'S PUT TOGETHER IS AN ESSENTIAL PACKAGE.

IT, THERE'S NO FRILLS.

IT'S, IT'S UPDATING, UH, SOME SOFTWARE AND SOME ITEMS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS, UH, PAST LIFE EXPECTANCY.

YOU KNOW, WE REALLY, AS A TOWN HAVEN'T INVESTED MUCH IN THE TECHNOLOGY, AND THIS IS JUST TO GET US TO THE BARE MINIMUM THAT WE NEED TO BE TO FUNCTION.

AND BASED ON WHAT WE JUST EXPERIENCED THE LAST THREE MONTHS, WITH SO MUCH OF OUR WORK BEING DONE OUTSIDE OF TOWN HALL, UH, REMOTELY WITH THE COMPUTER SYSTEM, UM, I THINK, UH, TO, TO NOT UPGRADE TO THE POINT WHERE WE NEED TO, TO KEEP EVERYTHING RUNNING, UM, WOULD REALLY BE SOMETHING WE WANNA AVOID.

BECAUSE IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE COST OF NOT DOING SOME OF THESE PROJECTS AND HAVING A COMPUTER GO DOWN AND HAVING AN EMERGENCY SITUATION AND THE COST OF GETTING IT FIXED AT A, AT THE LAST MINUTE, OR TO HAVE PEOPLE COME IN AND, YOU KNOW, TO DO OVERTIME TO WORK ON, ON, UH, PROBLEMS, I THINK IT'S A LOT MORE COST EFFECTIVE TO STAY AHEAD OF THE CURVE IN TERMS OF A LOT OF THIS TECHNOLOGY SHE'S PROPOSED.

MM-HMM .

UM, SO AS, AS EVERYONE GETS A CHANCE OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS TO GO OVER THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, SINCE I WAS THE LA LIAISON AND I KNOW BETH HELPED OUT A LOT ON THE COMMITTEE, UM, I THINK BETH AND I WOULD BE, UH, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT, THAT YOU GUYS HAVE.

AND BETH, YOU MIGHT WANNA ADD ADD HERE AS WELL.

YES.

UM, AND YOU SAID THAT WEL SEAN, UM, AND THOSE WERE THE POINTS I WAS GOING TO MAKE ALSO, UH, NUMBER ONE, IN PHASE ONE OF THIS PROJECT, WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE BECAUSE THERE COULD HAVE BEEN MANY VIRTUALLY CATASTROPHIC THINGS THAT HAD HAPPENED IF JENNY HADN'T INITIATED MANY OF, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT TOOK PLACE IN PHASE ONE.

AND WE WERE LUCKY THERE WE'RE KIND OF UP AGAINST THE SAME THING IN, IN PHASE TWO.

AND, AND, AND WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THAT THESE ARE NOT, UM, NON-ESSENTIAL.

THESE ARE ALL ESSENTIAL ITEMS. AND I KNOW OUR TECH COMMITTEE, WHEN WE MET LAST WEEK, UH, WITH ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT JENNIFER PROVIDED, WE WENT THROUGH EACH ITEM ALSO, AND SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND HOW ALL OF THESE MOVING PARTS CAN TOGETHER.

WHAT COULD BE THE RAMIFICATION IF THEY WEREN'T COMPLETED AS PART OF PHASE TWO, WHAT THEY COULD AFFORD US ALSO IN, UM, OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR COST SAVINGS OR EFFICIENCIES GOING FORWARD.

AND, UH, EVERYONE AGREED.

I KNOW, UH, CAPTAIN TRASK AND SEAN CROTTY ARE PART OF THAT COMMITTEE, AND JUST ALONE FROM THE

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PERSPECTIVES IN THEIR DEPARTMENTS AND CHRIS HALL AND, AND KATHY, UH, SOME OF THE, THE LARGER DEPARTMENTS IN OUR TOWN, UH, THEY UNDERSTOOD AND AGREED JUST HOW ESSENTIAL IT IS AND HOW FORTUNATE WE'VE BEEN SO FAR THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD, UH, BIGGER ISSUES TO ADDRESS.

AND, YOU KNOW, THIS PHASE TWO COMPLETION OF PHASE TWO WILL REALLY PUT US AHEAD, UH, IN MANY WAYS AND AVOID US HAVING TO BE BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL.

UM, AND I THINK THE, THE FINANCING OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW ARE TERRIFIC.

I MEAN, 0% FOR FIVE YEARS IN THE 90 DAY DELAY.

I MEAN, THIS IS A, A GOOD OPPORTUNITY AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO DO ANYWAY.

SO THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW, UH, REGARDING THE FINANCING.

SO, AS SEAN SAID, IF ANYONE HAS ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, I DID GET TO LOOK OVER THE DOCUMENT THAT JEN SENT AT FOUR O'CLOCK.

IT'S VERY DETAILED.

I'D BE HAPPY ALSO AS A MEMBER OF THE, UH, THE IT COMMITTEE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT INDIVIDUALS HAVE ALSO.

OKAY.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS EXPRESS ANY OPINIONS OR ASK ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, JENNIFER, GUESS I WOULD SAY TO YOU, WE'LL AWAIT THIS NEXT THURSDAY, AND THEN, UH, WE'LL PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR BOARD ACTION ON THE 22ND.

IT GIVES US A COUPLE OF WEEKS PATIENT DEAL WITH QUESTIONS AND ENTERTAIN ANY AMENDMENTS.

SO WE'LL GO, UH, UH, IF THAT'S BEING SAID, LET'S MOVE ON TO ANOTHER TOPIC.

IS THAT OKAY EVERYBODY? YEP.

WE HAVE, UH, NECESSARY, UH, OR TO PARTICIPATE, I SHOULD SAY IN TONIGHT'S MEETING.

UH, BUT HE DOES, HE DOES.

MARK WALLING.

HOW ARE YOU ? SORRY ABOUT, THAT'S, YOU'RE HERE, RIGHT? UH, YOU KNOW, I, I TRIED TO JOIN THE MEETING AT THE BEGINNING AND IT DIDN'T WORK, BUT, UM, UM, BUT I'M HERE .

THANK YOU.

WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT DREW RILEY'S REPORT, WHICH IMPACT, UH, THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING, UH, ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.

BUT IN ANY EVENT, UH, DREW, UH, INDICATES TO US THAT WE HAVE THIS REZONING REQUEST FOR A PORTION OF LAND AT 45 35 SOUTHWESTERN BOULEVARD FROM C ONE TO C TWO.

THE PURPOSE IS TO CHANGE THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION TO THE APPLICANT TO CONSTRUCT A CAR WASH FACILITY ON THAT PROPERTY.

UH, NOW THE PLANNING BOARD, UH, HAS MADE SOME FINDINGS AND THEY WERE TO PUT TOGETHER A FORMAL RECOMMENDATION TO THE TOWN BOARD.

UH, THEY HAVE NOT DONE SO YET, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, ON A LIVE BASIS, PROBABLY UNTIL JULY THE SIXTH.

I THINK JENNIFER ROBERTSON CAN CORRECT ME, BUT WE HAVE OUR NEXT MEETING ON THE 22ND, THEN WE GO INTO THE THIRD QUARTER OF THE YEAR, JULY THE SIXTH.

UH, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE, UH, A HEARING WHERE YOU HAVE LIVE AUDIENCE Q AND A UNTIL THE 6TH OF JULY.

SO WE MAY PUT THAT OVER, UH, UNTIL THAT PARTICULAR TIME.

ALSO, LET ME REPORT TO YOU THAT, UH, YOU MAKES REFERENCE AS DID, UH, SARAH TO A, UH, REZONING REQUEST ON ROUTE 20 AT ROGERS ROAD.

THAT IS A BRAND NEW REQUEST THAT THE TOWN BOARD WOULD REFER TO THE PLANNING BOARD, BUT OUR CODE REVIEW COMMITTEE HAS NOT MET SINCE NOVEMBER.

SO I SUGGESTED TO SARAH THAT WE REFER THAT APPLICATION TO CODE REVIEW FOR STUDY AND A RECOMMENDATION, AND THEN THE TOWN BOARD CAN TAKE IT UP AND DETERMINE, UH, UH, A REFERENCE TO OUR TOWN PLANNING BOARD.

I, I THINK THAT'S EXCELLENT.

I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN.

WELL, I'M GLAD YOU AGREED, .

OKAY, THANK YOU.

SINCE I'M ON THAT COMMITTEE, UH, SO THAT'S ALRIGHT.

OKAY.

NOW I ALSO WANNA POINT OUT THAT DREW MAKES REFERENCE TO A COUPLE OTHER, UH, HE MENTIONED THIS IS, I WANNA DIRECT THIS TO BETH FERRELL.

HE SAYS WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMMITTEE IN PREPARING FOR THE COMPLETION OF AN UPDATE TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROPOSALS WERE RECEIVED ON, UH, MAY THE 27TH.

BETH, YOU WANNA ELABORATE THAT? IS THAT THE PROPOSAL FOR THE PLANNING CONSULTANT THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT

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EARLIER? CAN'T HEAR YOU.

UH, WE'VE LOST YOU HERE.

WAIT A MINUTE.

BEAR WITH US A MINUTE.

YOU'RE NOT, AUDIO IS NOT COMING THROUGH ON YOU.

HANG ON.

CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES, WE HAVE YOU NOW.

GO AHEAD.

OKAY.

YEAH, IT'S BEEN GOING IN AND OUT.

I, I HAD SOME TROUBLE LIKE, LIKE MARK HAD TOO AT THE BEGINNING.

SO MAYBE WE'RE EXPERIENCING SOME DIFFICULTY, UM, THAT RFP WAS DELAYED.

WE, THAT IS THE RFP THAT WE WERE WORKING ON OUT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

UM, IT WAS DELAYED BECAUSE OF, UM, THE SITUATION IN, IN MARCH.

IT DID GO OUT AND WE HAD RETURNED THE END MAY.

SO THE COMPREHENSIVE, UM, REVIEW TEAM IS ABLE TO MEET AGAIN, UM, WHEN THE, THE SMALLER GROUP THAT THAT WROTE, THE RFP WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THEM AND THEN WE'LL MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE LARGER GROUP.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT'LL HAPPEN IN THE NEXT MONTH.

OKAY, GOOD.

UH, ALSO TOO, UM, DREW ADVISES THAT THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY BOARD IS INTERESTED IN COMPLETING, THEY'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR A LONG TIME, COMPLETING AN AGRICULTURAL PROTECTION PLAN, AND DOULA'S EVIDENTLY BEEN WORKING WITH THEM ON THAT.

HE ALSO MAKES REFERENCE TO, UH, ONGOING DEVELOPMENTS AT THE EASTERN HILLS AND MALLS SO THAT WE CAN REFERENCE WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE AS OPPOSED TO WHAT ISN'T HAPPENING AT MCKINLEY MALL, WHICH HAS, UH, BEEN LOCKED IN RECEIVERSHIP PURSUANT TO A STATE SUPREME COURT ORDER.

UM, SO WE, MARK WALLING HAS DONE SOME RESEARCH ON THAT, AND WE'LL HAVE MORE TO SAY ABOUT THAT RECEIVERSHIP IN, IN JULY.

UH, BUT IN ANY EVENT, THAT'S A SUMMON SUBSTANCE OF WHAT DREW HAS, HAS PUT FORWARD FOR US.

OKAY.

SUPERVISOR, I KNOW THAT IN THE LAST FEW REPORTS THAT DREW HAS SUBMITTED TO THE TOWN BOARD, HE HAS ALSO REFERENCED, UM, HIS DESIRE TO HAVE SOME TIME AT SOME POINT.

AND THERE'S BEEN SO MANY OTHER THINGS GOING ON, BUT THAT HE, UM, HAS WANTED TO SIT DOWN WITH THE BOARD TO TAKE A LOOK AT FUNCTION.

UM, AND SOME, UH, YOU KNOW, AN EYE TOWARD THE FUTURE AS IT RELATES TO THE PLANNING, UM, DEPARTMENT.

AND IT, IT, I THINK IT PROBABLY WOULD BE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR US TOO AT SOME POINT, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER THINGS GOING ON, MAYBE SET SOME TIME DURING THE SUMMER AND BEFORE WE GET TO OUR NEXT, UH, BUDGET CYCLE WHERE WE CAN SIT DOWN AND, AND HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH HIM ABOUT HIS RECOMMENDATIONS.

BRINGS THAT UP AGAIN IN THE REPORT.

AND, UH, YOU REMINDED ME OF IT.

I HAD OVERLOOKED IT.

UH, YEAH, MAYBE, UH, IN OUR SECOND MEETING IN JULY, UH, IT, OR EVEN ON THE SIXTH, DEPENDING ON HOW HEAVY THE AGENDA IS, WE CAN MAYBE GIVE HIM, UH, UH, AN HOUR AT A, UH, WORK SESSION, BECAUSE ALL THE WORK SESSIONS IN THE THIRD QUARTER ARE SCHEDULED TO START AT FIVE 30.

SO MAYBE WE CAN DO THAT.

UH, LEMME TAKE A NOTE TO GIVE HIM A BUZZ AND TALK ABOUT HIS AVAILABILITY.

OKAY, GOOD.

ANYTHING ELSE ON DREW, ON THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT? SOME FOR, UH, CODE REVIEW, UH, IF YOU REMEMBER A FEW WEEKS BACK, UH, ABOUT THE NO LIDS ON THE GARBAGE CANS? YES, SIR.

IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD PUT THROUGH TO CODE REVIEW THAT WOULD HELP CODE ENFORCEMENT.

MM-HMM .

ALRIGHT, LET'S, LEMME MAKE A NOTE BECAUSE THERE WE DON'T HAVE, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WE DON'T HAVE WITH RESPECT, WITH RESPECT TO, UH, PROTECTIVE LIDS OVER GARBAGE OR REFUSE CONTAINERS.

I THINK THAT'S, IN MY OWN OPINION, THAT'S A SHORTCOMING AND WE SHOULD ADDRESS THAT.

SO WHY DON'T I TAKE YOU UP ON YOUR SUGGESTION AND I'M MAKING A NOTE NOW TO LET YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'VE GOTTA LOOK AT THE CODE.

UH, CODE REVIEW IS GOTTA LOOK AT THAT, UH, ZONING APPLICATION ON ROGERS AND ROUTE 20.

LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE LID SITUATION.

THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

OKAY.

UM, ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT? WE'LL DISPENSE WITH THAT ONE.

LEMME UH, DRAW YOUR ATTENTION FOLKS.

TONIGHT.

WE HAD SCHEDULED A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE SOLAR ENERGY LAW.

UH, WE CAN DISCUSS IT, BUT I THINK I MOTION TO ADJOURN THE PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE YOU'LL KNOW, AS YOU TURN TO, UH, THE NOTICE OF A PUBLIC HEARING TO BE HELD TODAY.

UH, IT SAYS

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THAT THE MEETING WILL OCCUR AT 7:00 PM ON AT WHICH TIME ALL INTERESTED PERSONS MAY BE HEARD.

WELL, UNFORTUNATELY, THE ONLY INTERESTED PERSONS THAT CAN BE HEARD ARE THOSE THAT ARE PARTICIPATING IN THIS VIRTUAL MEETING.

SO MAYBE WE'LL HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS, MARK WALLING ABOUT IT WHEN WE GET TO THE AGENDA, UH, UH, REVIEW ON OUR WORK SESSION.

BUT MAKE A MOTION AT THE REGULAR MEETING TO ADJOURN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION, PRESUMABLY ON THE SIXTH.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING I JUST WANTED TO MENTION TO YOU ALSO, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

ALSO, WE HAVE, UH, UH, A REPORT COMING IN THE THIRD OR FOURTH WEEK OF JUNE FROM DRES AND M MKI ARE TOWN ACCOUNTANTS.

UH, SAMANTHA KAZINSKI AND I HAD A VIRTUAL MEETING WITH DREHER AND MKI REPRESENTATIVES, UH, ABOUT THOSE SIX OR SEVEN DAYS AGO.

AND, UH, WE GLEANED FROM THE PROJECTIONS THAT THEY MADE A RATHER, UH, BLEAK PICTURE.

UH, NOTHING HAS BEEN PUT IN IN WRITING AND THEY NEED TO GET SOME MORE INFORMATION TOGETHER.

BUT HERE'S THE PITCH.

ONCE THEY DO THAT, SOMETIME IN THE THIRD OR FOURTH WEEK OF JUNE, I WILL GET IT OUT TO EVERYBODY, DEPARTMENT HEADS, TOWN BOARD MEMBERS, ELECTED OFFICIALS SO THAT WE HAVE A CLEAR OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THEY PROJECT FOR US, UH, IN A MORE FINITE WAY AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO KICK IT AROUND, UH, AT OUR MEETINGS, UH, IN, IN JULY, OUR TWO MEETINGS IN JULY.

SO I WANTED YOU TO, TO KNOW THAT THAT WOULD GIVE YOU MORE DETAILED INFORMATION.

SAM, JIM, CAN I ALSO ADD TO THAT? PLEASE GO AHEAD, SAM.

UM, SO I ACTUALLY, IT'S MY HOPE KIM AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON GETTING THAT INFORMATION TO DR.

AND ECK, UM, TODAY AND TOMORROW.

UM, IT'S MY HOPE BY THE NEXT BOARD MEETING IN JUNE, WE SHOULD HAVE A SUMMARY THAT WE CAN PROVIDE.

UM, OBVIOUSLY OUR BIGGEST CONCERNS ARE SALES TAX, MORTGAGE TAX, VIDEO, LOTTERY, TERMINAL REVENUE, UM, LARGE ITEMS OF THAT NATURE.

AND REALLY AT THIS POINT, WE'RE JUST ESTIMATING AND WE'LL BE SHOWING ALL OF YOU WHERE OUR RECEIPTS AND OUR EXPENSES ARE, UM, AND WHERE WE'RE PROJECTING THEM TO BE.

BUT WITH THOSE KEY ITEMS, UM, WE REALLY DON'T KNOW YET WHERE THOSE WILL COME OUT.

SO IT'S JUST STARTING TO GIVE US AN IDEA OF, OF WHERE WE REALLY NEED TO START CUTTING COSTS AND GETTING CREATIVE WITH THINGS.

SO I HOPE TO HAVE THAT FOR THE NEXT BOARD MEETING.

YEAH, WE MADE SAM, WE MADE, UH, AFTER WE GOT OFF THE, UH, OFF THE LINE WITH DRESCHER AND MALKI, WE MADE A, UH, AN CONCLUSION BASED ON WHAT THEY TOLD US THAT WERE SOMETHING BETWEEN, UH, TWO AND A $2.5 MILLION SHORTFALL FOR THIS OPERATING BUDGET.

UH MM-HMM .

IS THAT YOUR ? YES.

SO, AND, AND THAT'S KIND OF, UH, YOU KNOW, WE JUST, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THINGS WILL SHAKE OUT, SO IT COULD BE SOMEWHERE OUTSIDE OF THOSE NUMBERS, BUT I THINK TWO TO TWO AND A HALF MILLION IS A SAFE BET, UM, FOR WHERE WE WILL END UP.

UM, AND THEN REALLY THAT'S WHY WE, JIM, YOU ISSUED THE MEMO ASKING DEPARTMENT HEADS TO BE MORE FRUGAL UNTIL, YOU KNOW, FURTHER INSTRUCTION COMES, WHICH WE HAVE THE BOARD RESOLUTION ON THE AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING.

UM, BECAUSE THAT TWO AND A HALF MILLION, UM, WE HAVE TO NOT ONLY MAKE UP FOR THAT THIS YEAR, WHICH IS A BUDGET YEAR THAT WE'VE ALREADY COMPLETED, BUT THIS WILL ALSO AFFECT US NEXT YEAR AS WELL AS THE ECONOMY OBVIOUSLY NEEDS TO RECOVER.

UM, SO, SO ANY SHORTFALL THAT WE HAVE THIS YEAR WOULD ONLY BE AN, AN ADDITIONAL BURDEN ON TAXPAYERS NEXT YEAR.

OKAY.

SAM, QUICK QUESTION ARE, IS THIS ANALYSIS ALSO TAKING A LOOK OR ASSESSING, UM, OFFSETS AREAS IN WHICH WE MAY ACTUALLY HAVE DONE BETTER, SUCH AS OVER TIME, UM, INSURANCE, YOU KNOW, UM, LESS INSURANCE CLAIMS, ET CETERA? UM, SO BASICALLY WHAT THIS ANALYSIS DOES IS IT LOOKS AT WHERE WE'VE BEEN SO FAR THIS YEAR, AND THEN IT TAKES THE NUMBERS THAT WE USE THIS YEAR, UM, AND KIND OF SAYS, OKAY, WELL IF WE'RE LIMITING OUR OVERTIME, UM, HERE'S WHERE WE'RE GONNA PROJECT IF WE KEEP LIMITING THAT OVERTIME FOR THE YEAR, THERE'S A LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS LIKE THAT, RIGHT? SO

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FOR THE CHANGES WE'VE ALREADY STARTED TO MAKE, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, THE RESOLUTION IF IT PASSES TONIGHT FOR EQUIPMENT, UM, WHEN WE TALKED TO DRESCHER AND MILWAUKEE, THEY SAID, LOOK, YOU'RE PROBABLY STILL GOING TO HAVE SOME EMERGENCY EXPENDITURES.

YOU CAN'T PLAN ON SAVING ALL OF YOUR EQUIPMENT MONEY FROM THE DATE YOU PASSED THIS RESOLUTION ONWARDS.

YOU'LL PROBABLY HAVE MAYBE LIKE A, LIKE 25% EMERGENCY COST WHEN AN ACTUAL, A VEHICLE JUST DIES OR A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT COMPLETELY IS NOT OPERABLE.

UM, SO FOR THOSE ITEMS, SO IN THOSE CASES WE WOULD ESTIMATE, OKAY, WELL WE'LL SAVE 75% OF THAT MONEY.

SO IN ADDITION TO THE REPORT THAT I'LL BE GIVING, UM, THERE WILL ALSO BE A LIST OF ASSUMPTIONS LIKE THOSE, SO YOU KNOW, WHICH COST CUTTING MEASURES WE'VE ALREADY ESTIMATED, AND THEN WHICH ONES, YOU KNOW.

THEN FROM THERE WE CAN LOOK AT WHERE OUR FINANCIAL POSITION IS AND THEN ALSO, OKAY, WELL IF THIS IS INCLUDED AND THIS IS INCLUDED, AND HERE'S WHERE WE STAND AND HERE'S WHERE A DEFICIT IS, THIS IS HOW MUCH WE NEED TO STILL KIND OF FIND WAYS TO GET AROUND.

UM, AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, OTHER, OTHER MEASURES REALLY LIMITING DEPARTMENT SPENDING BECAUSE THE REVENUE WON'T BE COMING IN AND WE KNOW THAT.

YEAH.

BUT YOU KNOW, IN, IN, IN SUBSTANCE, UH, YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN.

WE DRESCHER AND MKI GAVE US A, UH, A SUMMARY OF THE EXPENSE EXPENSES OF OPERATION.

THOSE EXPENSES, AS YOU MAY GUESS, ARE DOWN MM-HMM .

OVERTIME EXPENSES, FUEL EXPENSES FOR VEHICLES AND SUCH.

THE DIFFICULTY IS, IS THAT WE'VE TAKEN A POUNDING ON SALES TAX AND MORTGAGE TAX, AND YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT OUR COURTS HAVEN'T BEEN OPENED.

SO FEES AND ASSESSMENTS AND FINES HAVEN'T BEEN LEVIED IN EARLY MARCH.

UH, ON TOP ON TOP OF THAT, WE'RE EXPERIENCING A FAIR NUMBER OF ARTICLE SEVEN IONS FOR REDUCTION IN ASSESSED VALU ON, ON COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.

SO, NEW UNCERTAINTY REGARDING AIM FUNDING IN THE STATE AND THE VLT FUNDING.

WE ARE KEEP 'EM SO FAR, UH, BUT IF NO FEDERAL HELP IS FORTHCOMING, I GOT A FEELING WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO HOLD ON, UH, COME THE NEW BUDGET YEAR.

SO IT'S A, IT'S A REALLY, IT'S A, A ROLL OF THE DICE.

AND JIM, IF I COULD JUST ADD TO THAT, I SEE US HANDING, WHEN WE DISTRIBUTE THIS REPORT, THIS WILL GIVE US AN ESTIMATE, OUR BEST GUESS AT WHERE THINGS ARE GOING TO TURN OUT.

UM, OBVIOUSLY WE WON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS ON MORTGAGE TAX AND SALES TAX AND ALL OF THE ITEMS WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT COME THE NEXT BUDGET MEETING.

SO WE'RE JUST TAKING A GUESS.

AND THAT WHAT I SEE THAT AS IS OUR STARTING POINT WHERE EVERYONE IS AWARE OF REALLY WHAT THE UPHILL BATTLE WE'RE FACING FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR AND NEXT YEAR IS.

I MEAN, I'M SURE YOU ALL SAW, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENT NEWS OUTLETS ABOUT ERIE COUNTY CUTS DIFFERENT CUTS ACROSS THE STATE.

UM, SO THAT'S THE STARTING POINT.

I DON'T, SO THEN FROM THERE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO KEEP MAKING DECISIONS TO HELP CONTINUE SAVING COSTS BECAUSE WHILE WE DID, YOU KNOW, UTILITIES ARE PROBABLY DOWN ITEMS OF THAT NATURE.

THEY'RE NOT DOWN TO THE, THERE'S, THERE ARE COST SAVINGS, BUT THERE AREN'T COST SAVINGS TO THE POINT RIGHT NOW OF WHERE THE REVENUES ARE DECREASING.

SO ONCE WE GET TO THIS STARTING POINT AND YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION, CAN START MAKING SOME TOUGHER DECISIONS.

BUT I DON'T BELIEVE AT ANY POINT DURING THE REST OF THIS YEAR, WE WILL SIT AND SAY, OKAY, I THINK WE'VE DONE ENOUGH TO CO BE COMFORTABLE WITH WHERE MORTGAGE TAX AND SALES TAX WILL COME IN, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THOSE THINGS AFTER THE FACT.

SO I TRULY THINK FOR THE REST OF THIS YEAR AND ONWARD, WE'RE JUST GOING TO CONSTANTLY BE TRYING TO SAVE AS MUCH AS WE CAN BECAUSE WE'RE UNFORTUNATELY NOT GONNA GET A LOT OF ANSWERS ON SOME OF THOSE ITEMS UNTIL AFTER THE FACT.

SO, SO THIS IS GONNA BE OUR NEW NORM OF JUST TRYING TO CUT AND COST ANYWHERE POSSIBLE BECAUSE WE WON'T KNOW HOW FAR BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL WE ARE UNTIL, YOU KNOW, AFTER WE ALREADY PAID FOR SOME COSTS WE COULD HAVE AVOIDED.

SO I'M JUST TRYING TO HAVE US BE SAFE AND, SORRY, UM, COME THE NEXT BUDGET SEASON.

OKAY.

UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THAT CONCLUDES WHAT I WANNA TALK ABOUT OFF THE AGENDA.

ARE THERE OTHER OFF THE AGENDA PROJECTS OR REPORTS THAT YOU FOLKS WANNA GET INTO? I, I HAD TWO THINGS TO BRING UP, PLEASE.

UM, I SEEN EVERYONE GOT THE EMAIL FROM A, A GENTLEMAN

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WHO BOUGHT GOLF PASS AND UH, SAYS HE CAN'T GET OUT ON THE COURSE IF MARTY DOWN THE LINE.

I DON'T KNOW IF MAYBE HE EMAILED THE GENTLEMAN AND TOLD THEM ABOUT, UH, THE PROCESS THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH.

I THINK WE HEARD ABOUT THIS A COUPLE YEARS AGO.

MARTY, ARE YOU THERE, MIKE? I I AM ON THE LINE.

MM-HMM .

UM, I WROTE THE GENTLEMAN AN EMAIL AND, UM, PRIOR TO THAT THERE WAS, I BELIEVE AN EMAIL DISCUSSION WITH OUR GOLF MANAGER, LUKE SULLIVAN.

AND LUKE EXPLAINED TO HIM THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE STARTED THE SEASON SOMEWHAT CONSERVATIVELY WITH OUR HOURS OF OPERATION AND OUR, UM, INTERVALS OF TEE TIMES.

UM, AND THAT'S LIKELY THE CAUSE OF THE, THE PROBLEM.

UM, WE DO PLAN ON INCREASING OUR HOURS OF OPERATION AND DECREASING THE INTERVAL, SO WE EXPECT THE SITUATION TO GET BETTER.

UM, TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, THAT'S THE ONLY COMPLAINT WE'VE HAD FROM A SEASON TICK OR SEASON PASSHOLDER, UM, OTHER THAN ONE WHO WAS MAD AT US FOR NOT OPENING, UH, ON OUR ORIGINAL, UH, PROJECTED DATE.

UM, BUT WITH THAT NOTED, UH, LUKE SAID THAT, UH, THEY PLAN ON TALKING AGAIN AND, UM, WE HAVE A REFUND PROCESS.

UH, WE CAN CREDIT HIM, UM, TO USE THAT AS GOLF AS AS, AS HE WOULD LIKE.

HE CAN GET A FULL REFUND.

UH, WE HAVE VARIOUS OPTIONS.

WE'RE HOPING TO KEEP HIM AS A CUSTOMER AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'LL WORK WITH HIM TO, UH, UH, TO TRY AND, UM, MAKE SURE HE HAS A GOOD GOLF SEASON.

OKAY.

YOU REACHED OUT TO HIM THEN ON THAT TOPIC.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

BOTH MYSELF.

YES, BOTH MYSELF AND LUKE SULLIVAN HAVE REACHED OUT TO HIM.

OKAY.

AND THE SECOND PART IS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE WINTERTIME, UH, WE HAD ON THURSTON WE'RE OFF OF ABBOTT ROAD, SOME FLOODING ISSUES.

AND I KNOW AFTER WE TALKED ABOUT IT, I BELIEVE DARREN SMITH WAS GOING TO, UH, DIG OUT THAT DITCH TO HELP RELIEVE THAT SITUATION.

I DIDN'T KNOW, UH, TED WAS, WAS AWARE OF IT OR WHERE THAT STANDS.

WHAT, UH, HI, THIS IS TED.

UH, WHAT WERE YOU REFERRING TO? MIKE? OKAY.

UH, THERE, UH, KIND OF A, A DRAINAGE FLOODED SITUATION GOING ON UP NEAR THURSTON OFF OF ABBOTT ROAD.

AND WE WENT OUT THERE THROUGH THE, THE SPRING AND, UH, THERE'S A DITCH THERE.

UH, I BELIEVE DARREN SMITH WAS ON TOP OF THIS.

HE WAS GOING TO, UH, THE GUYS GO THERE AND DIG IT UP TO HELP, UH, RELIEVE THIS SITUATION.

AND, UH, I JUST WAS WONDERING STATUS ON THAT OR IF YOU KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

YEAH, I WENT OUT THERE ALSO THE OTHER DAY AND MET WITH, UH, THE RESIDENTS.

UM, IT, IT'S ACTUALLY A, A SUGGESTION FOR THAT.

UH, DITCH IS ON A PAPER ROAD THAT THE TOWN OWNS, RIGHT? UM, THE LENGTH OF WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, SIX TO A THOUSAND YARDS.

UM, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER FOR US TO UNDERTAKE, UH, I THINK THE WORK OF THAT MAGNITUDE, WE NEED TO ENGAGE ENGINEERING.

UM, 'CAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE THIS TO BE AN EXERCISE IN UTILITY.

SO WE NEED ENGINEERING SUPPORT TO, UM, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFY WHAT THE ISSUE IS AND WHAT THE SOLUTION IS, AND THEN WE APPROPRIATELY GO FROM THERE AS FAR AS MOVING FORWARD.

UM, YOU KNOW, PART OF THAT REQUIRES THE CLEAR CUTTING OF TREES IN THAT PAPER STREET.

UM, SO THAT HAS TO BE FACTORED IN.

BUT, UH, WE NEED ENGINEERING SUPPORT IN ORDER TO, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, MOVE FORWARD ON A PROJECT OF THAT MAGNITUDE.

YOU KNOW WHAT, I WAS, UH, MIKE WAS INVOLVED IN THAT AND NOW I, NOW MIKE'S GONE.

I FORGOT ABOUT THAT.

SO WE HAVE TO, UH, UH, GET THAT STARTED AGAIN.

LEMME INTERJECT THIS FELLAS, UH, UH, CALLED ME ON THURSDAY, LAST THURSDAY, AND THEY WANNA COME IN TO MEET.

UH, SO I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH THEM ABOUT A DATE AND TIME.

I SENT OUT A NOTICE TO CAMIE, UH, JARRELL FROM GHD AND TO, UH, TED CASEY ABOUT TRYING TO HOOK UP WITH THEM THIS WEDNESDAY.

UH, THEY WANTED THREE OR FOUR OF THEIR THURSDAY AVENUE LEADERS TO COME IN AND DISCUSS.

THEY HAD SOME VERY BAD FLOODING RECENTLY IN THE LAST, LAST 12 DAYS, UH, TO DISCUSS WHAT CAN OR CAN'T BE DONE.

SO I'M, I CAN CONFIRM

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WITH ALL OF YOU TOMORROW MORNING IF YOU'D LIKE THAT THE MEETING IS IN FACT GOING TO TAKE PLACE ON WEDNESDAY.

WE CAN'T HAVE A MAJORITY OF THE BOARD THERE, BUT, UH, IF YOU MIGHT WANNA COME OVER AT FIVE O'CLOCK ON WEDNESDAY, IF IN FACT WE GET IT DONE THAT DAY, THEN YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY.

ANY, ANY OTHER OFF THE AGENDA ITEMS YOU WANNA, AS LONG AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE DRAINAGE, I KNOW WE HAD RECEIVED SOME ADDITIONAL CORRESPONDENCE REGARDING THE DRAINAGE ISSUES ALONG SMITH, AND IT'S SOMEWHAT THE SAME SCENARIO WHERE IT'S, UM, A COORDINATION BETWEEN, UH, TED'S AREA AND WITH ENGINEERING.

I KNOW TED HAD RESPONDED WITH THE INFORMATION HE HAD.

I DID FORWARD EVERYTHING TO KAMI FROM THAT, UH, FROM THE CONCERNS FROM THOSE RESIDENTS SO THAT SHE, AND SHE'S DONE SOME PRELIMINARY WORK.

I DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S IN ON THE, ON THE MEETING RIGHT NOW, BUT MAYBE SHE CAN UPDATE THERE.

UM, AND BECAUSE THERE WAS QUESTION OF WHAT FELL WITHIN THE REALM OF HIGHWAY AND WHAT FELL WITHIN THE REALM OF ENGINEERING, AND I THINK THAT COORDINATION AND SOMETIMES SOME COLLABORATION BETWEEN THOSE, THOSE TWO PROBABLY CAN, UM, COME UP WITH THE BEST RESOLVE.

I DON'T KNOW.

IS KAMI THERE? I AM HERE.

GOOD.

GOOD.

KAMI.

HELLO.

SO, UM, I DID GO OUT AND TAKE A PRELIMINARY LOOK AT THAT AREA, AND I THINK, UM, THE ISSUES ARE REALLY IN THE REAR OF THE PROPERTIES AND THE, THE SIDE SWELLS THAT GO INTO THE PUBLIC STREET SEEM TO BE IN GOOD CONDITION.

UM, I DID NOT WANDER IN THE BACKYARD, YOU KNOW, I DID, I I WOULD HAVE TO MAKE ARRANGEMENTS WITH THE RESIDENTS TO, TO GO THAT FAR AND TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT'S OUT THERE.

UM, I ALSO SPOKE TO TOM LARDO ABOUT IT, AND HE FELT THAT IT WAS ISSUES IN THE REAR YARD AS WELL, UM, WHICH WOULD MEAN THE TOWN WOULD HAVE TO GAIN ACCESS TO GET BACK THERE AND DO ANY WORK BACK THERE.

UM, SO THE INITIAL THOUGHT WOULD BE, UM, TO DO A LITTLE MORE INVESTIGATION AND THEN TO GAUGE HOW MUCH THE TOWN IS ABLE TO DO, UM, IN THE REAR OF THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.

HEY, TAMMY, CAN I, I RAISE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON THIS WITH YOU.

UH, THERE IS A CREEK, UH, UH, ON THAT, UH, THAT, UH, INTERSECTS SMITH ROAD AND THAT CREEK TAKES A LOT OF THE DRAINAGE FROM THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURG, UH, AS IT MOVES DOWN LAKEVIEW ROAD TOWARD ROUTE ROUTE 20.

IN ADDITION, THERE ARE SOME OPEN DRAINAGE DITCHES, DITCHES ON SMITH ROAD THAT SEEM TO BE PRETTY BADLY CLOGGED UP.

UH, THE PEOPLE THERE ARE TALKING ABOUT A DRAINAGE FLOW THAT WOULD TAKE THE, THE STORM WATER UNDERNEATH LAKEVIEW ROAD AND DEPOSIT THAT EXCESS INTO THE 18 MILE CREEK.

ARE YOU AWARE OF THAT CONCEPT? I WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT CONCEPT.

THAT'S WHAT THEY BROUGHT UP, BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION.

UH, AND I'M WAITING TO GET A FILE.

MARK , THE, UH, CONSERVATION CHAIR RESIDES THERE, AND HE IS GOING TO GIVE ME A FILE, HE SAID ON YEAR STUDIES DONE.

SO THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT TO CONSIDER THERE MM-HMM .

OKAY.

AND PERHAPS ONCE YOU HAVE A HOLD OF THAT FILE, THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO MEET WITH THOSE RESIDENTS AND HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT, UM, WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND WHAT, WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN.

I DID NOT SEE ISSUES WITH THE OPEN DITCHES ON SMITH.

A LOT OF SMITH IS NOT OPEN DISHES.

IT IS ENCLOSED PIPES.

I DID SEE, UH, NEAR THE CORNER ON, UH, OLD LAKEVIEW, UH, IN SMITH, I DID SEE, UH, CATTAILS AND SOME OVERGROWTH ON, ON THAT DITCH, BUT I BELIEVE TED HAD ALREADY IDENTIFIED THAT FOR CLEANING.

UH, THIS IS TED.

UH, THAT IS, THAT IS CORRECT.

UM, UH, I'VE LOOKED AT THAT, UH, SMITH IN THAT AREA AS LONG AS WELL AS MY TWO FOREMAN.

THE, THE DITCHES ARE FUNCTIONING AS INTENDED.

UH, A WEEK AGO, UH, THIS PAST FRIDAY DURING THAT TORRENTIAL DOWN, UH, DOWNPOUR THAT WE HAD, UH, I WAS THERE AT THAT INTERSECTION OF SMITH AND LAKEVIEW ROAD, TAKING A LOOK AT THE CAPACITY AND THE VOLUME AND THE FLOW.

UH, THAT WAS AT 5:00 PM AND, UH, IT WAS STILL FUNCTIONING AS, AS INDICATED, UH, CAMMY, AS YOU NOTE, UH, UH, THE CATTAILS WE HAD IDENTIFIED.

AND, AND WE, WE MANAGE, UH, THE DITCHES THROUGHOUT THE TOWN RELATIVE TO CATTAILS.

AND, AND THAT AREA IS, UH, YOU KNOW, ON OUR LIST OF THINGS TO DO.

BUT PRESENTLY, UH, THE DITCHES DO FLOW.

OKAY.

AND I

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AGREE WITH YOUR, YOUR, UH, FOREMAN, TED.

I DID NOT SEE ANY, ANY OTHER ISSUES THAT WOULD NEED TO BE ADDRESSED IN THE PUBLIC DITCHES.

OKAY, WELL, UH, HERE'S THE SCOOP 10, UH, KAMI, I GUESS.

AND TED, WE'LL GET THE, UH, WE'LL GET THE REPORT FROM, UH, UH, THE HISTORY FROM THE SMITH ROAD NEIGHBORS, AND I'LL SHARE IT WITH YOU FOLKS.

AND THEN MAYBE YOU'RE RIGHT, KAMI, MAYBE THE THING TO DO IS TO THEN SET UP AN INFORMAL MEETING WITH THAT GROUP AND DISCUSS ALTERNATIVES.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO AS WELL.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, ANY OTHER ITEMS OFF THE AGENDA, PRACTICE REPORTS THAT YOU WANNA DISCUSS? ANYONE? I WANNA GIVE A SLIGHT COMMENTATION COMMENDATION TO OUR TOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AS YOU KNOW, KEVIN TRASK SENT US OVER AN EMAIL, UH, TO JOEL RYAN, ALSO OUR SECURITY OFFICER.

THEY HAVE A VERY, VERY BUSY WEEKEND, THE FIRST WEEKEND OF, UH, HAMBURG TOWN BEACH.

AND HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY, UH, THIS SUMMER WE CAN, UH, ENSURE THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING DOWN THERE ARE IN FACT GOING DOWN THERE, UH, AS, UH, WHO HAVE PERMITS, UH, TO BE THERE.

SO THAT'S, THAT WILL ALLEVIATE A LOT OF STRESS THAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED OVER THE PAST COUPLE YEARS.

I HOPE SO.

THANK YOU TO YOU CHIEF, AND GIVE JOE O'BRIEN THANKS AS WELL.

MY PLEASURE.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

WHAT DO YOU THINK, FOLKS? ANYTHING ELSE? LET'S, YOU WANNA GO TO THE AGENDA THEN? OKAY.

YOU KNOW, UH, THE FIRST THING, THIS IS A TOUGH ONE.

UH, BE, I KNOW YOU KNOW HIM VERY WELL, AND I, AND, UH, ALSO I KNOW THAT, UH, UH, HE'S BEEN FRIENDLY WITH MANY OF US HERE.

UH, SEAN, TED CASEY, UH, .

WHAT A WONDERFUL GUY, MR. BECKER, UH, WAS.

ISN'T HE, WASN'T HE TERRIFIC? YEAH.

AND SO THERE'S A SLIGHT TRIBUTE TO HIM.

UH, WE COULD NEVER DO ENOUGH TO PAY TRIBUTE FOR THE GOOD WORK HE'S DONE FOR THE VILLAGE AND THE TOWN.

UM, AND I WANTED TO MAKE MENTION OF THIS TOO, IF I COULD.

AN IDA ATTORNEY WHO HAS DONE SOME WORK FOR OUR HIDA, SEAN CONLEY BROUGHT IT TO MY ATTENTION.

I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT IT.

CRAIG SQUI, UH, PASSED AWAY.

CRAIG, UH, SHARED SPACE WITH, UH, JUDGE, UH, GORMAN AND, UH, DID SOME WORK FOR THE HIDA OVER THE YEARS.

SO, AND I HAD, KNOWING HIM, UH, THROUGHOUT MY YEARS OF PRACTICE, THE VERY WE'LL HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND SAY A FEW KIND THINGS ABOUT THESE GUYS.

OKAY.

HE WAS ALSO DEPUTY ATTORNEY AS WELL, JIM, FOR TWO YEARS.

SEE? OH, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WITH ME.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT, WELL, I'M SORRY, WALTER.

YOU, HE'S A GOOD GUY.

YEAH.

UM, KAREN, JUST THE APPROVAL OF, OF OUR LAST MINUTE, UH, LAST BOARD, UH, WORK SESSION AND OUR TOWN BOARD TEAM MINUTES.

YOU'RE THE, YOU'RE THE ONE ON THAT ONE.

UH, AND, AND THEN, UH, WE'VE GOT THE FOLKS FOR THIS QUARTER.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE WORK SESSIONS WILL BE GOING AT FIVE 30 ON EACH OF THOSE MEETING NIGHTS AND, UH, BEGINNING AT SEVEN.

SO THAT'S PROBABLY GOOD TO GET THESE THINGS, UH, STARTED EARLIER AND FINISHED EARLIER.

RIGHT.

IS THAT A CHANGE IN AUGUST WITH USUALLY, ACTUALLY, USUALLY IN, WE HAVE ONE MEETING PER MONTH.

THEN I THINK LAST YEAR WE HAD TWO, BUT IN AUGUST WE HAVE THREE NOW THIS YEAR.

YEAH.

I DON'T KNOW.

IS IT BECAUSE THERE'S FIVE A MONTH? I THINK SO, BUT USUALLY WE, WE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WENT, I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER GONE TO THREE MEETINGS IN A MONTH BEFORE LIKE THAT.

NO, I KNOW WHAT WE NEVER DID, TO MY RECOLLECTION, AT LEAST NOT IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.

I THINK THERE'S SPACED EVERY WEEKS AND THERE MAY, THAT MAY BE A FIVE WEEK MONTH, I DON'T KNOW.

MM-HMM .

BECAUSE THE LAST ONE FALLS ON THE VERY LAST DAY OF THE MONTH.

SO, UM, KATHY, I MEAN, YOU CAN, YOU CAN CHECK THAT OUT.

I, WE DON'T WANNA GO INTO LABOR DAY AFTER THE 31ST, SO, WELL THAT YEAH, THAT COULD BE TOO.

YEAH.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT, WELL THAT'S HOW IT STANDS ANYWAY FOR NOW.

AND WE'LL SEE, WE'LL SEE WHERE WE GO NOW.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

UH, THE NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS IS, UH, MARK WALLING, UH, WILL DISCUSS, IF YOU DON'T MIND, UH, AT THE BOARD MEETING A LITTLE MORE, UH, TO ENTERTAIN

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QUESTIONS THAT DEPARTMENT HEADS OR TOWN BOARD MEMBERS MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THE SOLAR, UH, SOLAR ENERGY LAW.

AND THEN WE'LL DISCUSS WHEN WE'RE GONNA INTRODUCE THE STORAGE LOCAL LAW THAT YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING ON.

WITHDREW.

BUT I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION THEN TO ADJOURN TO THE SIXTH.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S THE STORY ON THAT.

OKAY.

BETH, YOU'RE ON, YOU'RE ON NUMBER SEVEN? YES.

THIS IS FROM, UH, CHRIS HALL.

AND THIS IS FOR THE USE OF THE GRANT OF GRANT MONEY FOR A DA TRAINING.

YEAH.

I THAT'S SO THAT, IS THAT A, THAT'S A NEW GRANT, ISN'T IT? DID WE? I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAD THAT BEFORE.

ANYWAY.

MAY I WOULD WANNA, MAY I WOULD WANNA ASK CHRIS FOR SURE.

I DUNNO.

YOU THERE? HELLO? I'M ON.

YEAH.

HI, CHRIS.

YEAH, THIS IS, UH, WE'VE BEEN GETTING THIS FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS.

IT'S FROM THE ERIE COUNTY LEGISLATURE.

OH, ALL RIGHT.

AND THIS YEAR IT WAS FROM, UH, LEGISLATOR GILMORE'S OFFICE, $3,000.

AND WE'VE BEEN USING IT IN THE PAST FOR, UH, A DA ADDITIONAL A DA TRAINING CONTINUATION.

MM-HMM .

OKAY.

OKAY.

I DIDN'T REMEMBER IT.

UH, NEXT IS, UH, MR. CONLEY ON, UH, NUMBER EIGHT.

YOU WERE THIS LAST MR. CONLEY.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

UM, THIS IS FOR CONNECT LIFE, UM, TO ALLOW THEM THE USAGE OF THE SENIOR COMMUNITY CENTER FOR THEIR BLOOD DRIVE.

WE DISCUSSED THIS ABOUT A MONTH AGO, AND NOW THAT, UM, THINGS HAVE, UH, STARTED TO OPEN UP IN TERMS OF, UM, SCHEDULING AND THE, UH, SAFETY ISSUES.

WE'RE LOOKING AT AUGUST 15TH.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

FINE WITH ME.

UH, THE NEXT ONE IS THE BID AUTHORIZATION FOR CDBG IN HELEN AVENUE.

UH, THAT'S YOU RIGHT THERE.

YES.

THIS IS FOR, UM, THE PROJECT ON HELEN AVENUE.

WE ACTUALLY HAD ALREADY PASSED THIS IN A PREVIOUS RESOLUTION THAT THIS WOULD BE PART OF THE CDBG FUNDING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.

THIS WOULD BE FOR THE VILLAGE OF BLAZEDALE.

SO NOW THIS IS, UM, TO THE RESOLUTION FOR THE RFP FOR THAT PROJECT.

YEAH.

I JUST SUGGEST THE BIDDING.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

YES, CORRECT.

OKAY.

THE NEXT THING, UH, UH, WALTER RUTH HAD SUGGESTED, UH, WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A DEBT, UH, UH, UH, BOND, UH, UH, MEETING, UH, LAST WEEK.

AND WALTER HAD SUGGESTED, I AGREE WITH HIM, UH, THAT IT'S TIME TO GET AN RFP TOGETHER FOR A BO FOR A BOND COUNCIL, UH, TO HELP US WITH THE BONDING FOR THE LED PROJECT AND ALSO WITHOUT THE OPINION.

AND AGAIN, I, WE ARE NOT GONNA MAKE ANY FINAL DECISIONS UNTIL EVERYBODY HAS A CHANCE TO, UH, TO PIPE IN.

BUT WE'RE OF THE OPINION THAT WE'VE GOTTA DO IN ADDITION TO THE LED BONDING, COMBINE, UH, SOME OF OUR BANDS AND ROLL THEM INTO A BOND, UH, TO CONSOLIDATE EXPENSES AND ALSO DO SOME CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.

NOT AS GRAND AS WE MIGHT'VE DONE IN THE PRE COVID WORLD, BUT WE STILL GOTTA DO SOME INFRASTRUCTURE WORK, WE THINK.

SO WE'RE GONNA TRY TO ATTORNEY, UH, A LAW FIRM PROVE.

SO THAT'S THIS MOTION.

OKAY.

AGREE WITH THAT.

JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION ON THAT.

UM, IF SAMANTHA, WHAT, UH, BONDS OR BANS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THE TOWN PAYS, UM, WOULD BE ENDING, IF ANY IN THE NEAR FUTURE IF WE CAN ADD INFORMATION SO WE KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, SO IF WE TAKE OUT A BOND, IF WE'RE, YOU KNOW, PAYING OFF A COUPLE BONDS, HOW MUCH THAT IS.

SO IT GIVES US SOME, UH, IDEA WHEN WE GO OUT TO BOND, HOW MUCH WE COULD DO AND NOT HAVE TO RAISE TAXES IF POSSIBLE.

WELL, SAM, ARE YOU THERE? SORRY, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? THE EFFECTS OF THESE MEETINGS, THEY'RE REALLY KIND OF COOL.

YEAH.

, THOSE ONES WEREN'T MINE, I PROMISE.

.

UM, YES.

.

SO, UH, SO YES, THAT'S NO PROBLEM, MIKE.

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I BELIEVE WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST YEAR.

UM, I THINK WE HAVE ANOTHER YEAR OR TWO, UM, BUT THAT SHOULD BE FAIRLY SOON.

UM, SO I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION OUT TO YOU.

THE OTHER THING THAT THE DEBT COMMITTEE HAD DISCUSSED, UM, WAS, UH, IT REALLY APPEARS THAT THE BEST WAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET A GOOD INTEREST RATE FOR THE LED LIGHTING PROJECT WOULD BE GOING OUT TO BOND OURSELVES, UM, FOR THAT.

SO THE IDEA WITH THAT IS I WAS ALSO GOING TO PROVIDE A COST ESTIMATE OF HOW MUCH, UM, DEBT WE COULD TAKE ON BASED ON HOW MUCH LED SAVINGS WE WOULD POSSIBLY HAVE, UM, DOING THAT PROJECT.

SO THAT WAY ANY, WE WOULD JUST REINVEST IN THE TOWN ON THAT LED COST SAVINGS AS WELL.

SO I'M, I CAN GET ALL OF THAT INFORMATION TO YOU UMM, WORKING WITH CAPITAL MARKETS ON THAT, BUT ABSOLUTELY BEFORE THE NEXT BOARD MEETING.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, NO PROBLEM.

UH, JIM, I HAD A QUESTION.

THIS IS, UH, TED, GO AHEAD.

UH, RELATIVE TO THAT RESOLUTION, UH, IT ALLUDES TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.

DOES THAT INCLUDE, UH, THE REFERENCE TO, UH, THE PAVING NEEDS? WELL, WE HAVEN'T LIMITED IT IN PARTICULAR, EXCEPT I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE'VE HAD SOME CONSENSUS AS TO INCLUDING A DA FUNDING, UH, COMPLIANCE FOR THE HAMBURG TOWN BEACH, UH, A DA COMPLIANCE.

WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT, UH, DRAINAGE IN CONJUNCTION WITH ANY GRANTS OR OTHER THINGS WE CAN GET.

AND WE'VE ALSO BEEN TALKING ABOUT, UH, APPROPRIATING SOME OF THE MONEY FOR PA REPAVING TOWN ROADS, BUT WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO A POINT YET WHERE WE KNOW HOW MUCH WE CAN SAFELY BORROW.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DETERMINE, UH, UH, AS WE MEET IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.

SO WE'LL KNOW MORE BY THE END OF THIS MONTH, I THINK.

OKAY.

YEAH.

AND, AND AS I ALLUDED TO A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, UH, IN PREPARING A, UH, OVERALL TOWN COMPREHENSIVE PAVING PLAN, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT I'LL BE PROVIDING, UH, DOLLAR ESTIMATES, UH, IN ORDER TO, UH, GET ALL OF THE ROADS RATED AS POOR, UH, UP TO SNUFF.

AND, UM, UH, THE NUMBER OF ROADS AND THE CORRESPONDING DOLLARS TO ADDRESS, UM, IS LARGE.

UM, THE PAVED, THE, THE POORLY RATED ROADS IS APPROXIMATELY 90 MILES WORTH.

AND, UH, SO DOING THE MATH AND THE VARIOUS OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US, UM, IS NOT GOING TO BE A, UH, AN INSIGNIFICANT NUMBER, BUT ONE NO DOUBT THAT, UH, WE WILL HAVE TO PLAN FOR AND ADDRESS ACCORDINGLY.

WELL, IN, IN ADDITION, AND YOU'RE AWARE TOO, UH, ONE BREAKUP OF ROADS, UH, COUNTY, TOWN STATE, UH, IS OUR INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEM ON DRAINAGE.

SO WE'VE GOT SO MANY, UH, CORRESPONDING DRAINAGE ISSUES AS WELL.

SO IT'S A LOT TO GET THROUGH, BUT I THINK THE FIRST THING WE GET, WE HAVE TO DETERMINE IS HOW MUCH SAVINGS CAN WE REALIZE FROM THE LED PROJECT AND WILL THAT BE SUFFICIENT, THAT SAVINGS TO COVER BONDED AND DENTIST FOR THAT PROJECT AND SOME ADDITIONAL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE .

THERE'S A LOT ON THE TABLE THERE, AND WE'LL KICK IT AROUND IN JUNE AND JULY, I THINK.

OKAY.

YEP.

AND YEAH, AND REGARDING THE DRAINAGE, UH, UH, I ACTUALLY, WE, UH, COLLABORATED WITH, UH, A PROFESSOR AT ECC NORTH AND THE, UH, HIS STUDENTS TO, UH, HELP WITH A DRAINAGE STUDY IN THE NORTH END OF TOWN THAT'S BEEN PREVIOUSLY IDENTIFIED AS THE, THE WORST DRAINAGE AREA.

AND SO, COUPLED WITH, UH, THAT WORK, UH, THAT'LL GO HAND IN HAND WITH A, UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PAVING PLAN.

WELL, I'LL TELL YOU AT, WITH SOME TONGUE IN CHEEK, THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, UH, BE IT MOUNT VERNON OR LAKEVIEW OR WHEREVER, THAT WILL SAY THEY'VE GOT THE WORST DRAINAGE PROBLEMS. WE'VE GOT A, WE'VE GOT A TOWN WITH A LOT OF, A LOT OF DRAINAGE ISSUES.

BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL I, I, JIM, I, I AGREE.

AND , TONGUE IN CHEEK, UH, WELL ILLUMINATED STREETS WILL ALLOW FOLKS TO SEE ALL THE POORLY RATED ROADS VERY CLEARLY.

WELL, ALL THINGS IN TIME.

OKAY.

ONTO THE NEXT ONE.

THIS IS A, UH, OH, KAREN, I'M SORRY.

THIS

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IS, UH, UH, THE PART-TIME PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING.

GO AHEAD.

YEAH, THIS IS FOR THE HIRING OF THE PART-TIME PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCH.

UM, THIS WILL BE FOR CONNOR MOSES.

CONNOR MOSES WAS PART OF THE PROCESS.

UM, I TALKED TO SEAN CROTTY, HE INDICATED HE'S PART OF THE PROCESS WHEN THEY WERE LOOKING TO HIRE FOR THE FULL-TIME POSITION BACK ON MARCH 9TH WHEN WE APPOINTED.

AND HE WAS AT THE TOP OF THE LIST FOR THAT POSITION.

SO HE, HE MADE SENSE TO FILL THIS POSITION.

UM, AS PART OF THAT PROCESS, HE WAS EVALUATED, I BELIEVE, BY CHIEF TRASK, MARK BURNES, AND OF COURSE SEAN CROTTY.

UM, AND SO CONNOR WAS PART OF THE TOP OF THAT LIST, AND THAT'S ABOUT IT.

AND YOU KNOW, ALSO KAREN, UH, UH, CREDIT TO, UH, TO, UH, SEAN, UH, ORIGINALLY, UH, IN THE 2020 BUDGET, UH, HE WANTED HIS SECURE TWO PART-TIMERS, UH, AND WE LOST, UH, MS. BINETTE, A LONGTIME DISPATCH OPERATOR IN JANUARY.

SHE PASSED AWAY MM-HMM .

SO, UH, HE'S MOVING FORWARD WITH A PART-TIMER AS OPPOSED TO TWO.

SO WE'RE GRATEFUL TO HIM FOR THAT.

THANK YOU.

UH, NOW THE NEXT ONE IS NUMBER 12.

HAVE, YEAH, I GUESS IT'S 12, ISN'T IT? YEAH, 12 DOESN'T HAVE A, UH, A RESOLVE WITH THE BUDGETARY INFORMATION.

SO MAYBE WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL AMEND 12 WITH 13, UH, WHICH IS, UH, WE SIGNED A PAF BACK IN MAY FOR, UH, FOR JOE O'BRIEN, A RETIRED POLICE OFFICER.

SO I'LL AMEND 12 WITH 13.

JOE GETS, UH, HE'S WORKING FOUR HOURS A DAY, UH, FIVE DAYS A WEEK, SUN WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY AT THE BEACH, AND, UH, HE'S ON FOR $20 AN HOUR FOR, FOR THE FOUR HOURS, UH, PER DAY.

SO FAR, SO GOOD.

I GUESS HE WAS PRETTY BUSY ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY.

OKAY.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAD BUDGETED, AS YOU REMEMBER, FOR THE 2020 BUDGET YEAR.

OKAY.

ALSO, THE NEXT ONE, NUMBER 14, UH, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THIS BACK IN, OH GOSH, JANUARY, FEBRUARY OF 2018.

UM, I SUPPOSE AMENDING THE RULES OR DRAFTING NEW ONES, EVERY SIX DECADES IS PROBABLY APPROPRIATE.

UH, THE LAST TIME THEY WERE DRAFTED WAS IN 1958.

SO, WALTER, AND, UH, AND MARK, I'M ASKING YOU FELLAS, IN THIS RESOLUTION, IF I GET BOARD APPROVAL TO, UH, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT OTHER TOWNS ARE DOING, WE HAVE A DRAFT HERE, YOU KNOW, ROBERT'S RULES AND SO ON, TO SEE IF YOU COME IN THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS CAN COME UP WITH A DRAFT FOR RULE PROCEDURE.

OKAY.

WITH THAT, IT MAY BE ALSO THAT THE CURRENT RULES THAT WE HAVE EVEN NEED TO JUST BE AMENDED.

UM, I THINK ANYTHING THAT OLD PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE AMENDED, BUT WILL THEY BE LOOKING AT THAT OPTION ALSO? WELL, I, I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA, UH, PROBABLY DRAFT NEW RULES.

THE, THE ORIGINAL ONES, UH, BETH ARE ON ONE SHEET OF PAPER.

IT'S LIKE THEY WERE WRITTEN ON A NAPKIN, RIGHT? I MEAN, YOU WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE TO BE AMENDED AND I THINK LOOK AT ALL OPTIONS.

SO, WALTER, UH, AND MARK, IS TWO MONTHS FOR YOU GUYS TO WORK ON THAT, OR DO YOU NEED MORE TIME? WELL, IT SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO GET LEAST A DRAFT OR GET SOME IDEAS TO THE TALENT BOARD TO CONSIDER.

SO WE'LL GO WITH IT FOR NOW, AND IF WE NEED MORE TIME, WE'LL ASK YOU.

FAIR ENOUGH.

OKAY.

OKAY.

NEXT ONE IS NUMBER 15.

AND THIS ONE, WALTER SUGGESTED TO ME, AND, UH, WE'VE DRAFTED THIS.

THIS IS DESIGNED TO SAY THAT BOARD MEMBERS, DEPARTMENT HEADS, PUBLIC OFFICERS, UH, SHALL NOT SURREPTITIOUSLY RECORD, UH, MEETINGS WITH EMPLOYEES, VENDORS OR CONTRACTORS.

UH, AND IF THEY WANNA RECORD, UH, THE TEXT OF THOSE, THOSE KINDS OF MEETINGS OR INTERACTIONS, THEY SHOULD DO SO ON NOTICE TO THE INDIVIDUALS WHO THEN, UH, IF THEY CONSENT, WOULD'VE A RIGHT TO REQUEST WHO.

AND COMPLETE COPY OF THE RECORDING PERIOD SEEMS LIKE THE ETHICALLY AND MORALLY RESPONSIBLE THING TO DO.

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OKAY.

THAT'S THAT.

SO IT'S THE, THE BACKGROUND ON THIS.

WHY IS THIS, UH, COMING UP? CAN I ASK THAT? WELL, I, I DON'T WANNA, I DON'T WANNA, UH, CAST ANY ASPERSIONS ON ANYBODY, BUT I JUST, I JUST THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO MAINTAIN INTEGRITY AND TO, UH, BE HONORABLE WITH PEOPLE WE'RE MEETING WITH, UH, BE IT EMPLOYEES OR, OR VENDORS OR CONTRACTORS, OR THE PUBLIC, UH, RECORDING, UH, WITHOUT BILATERAL NOTICE SEEMS TO, TO BE A LITTLE BIT SHAKY.

SO, UH, BASED ON, ON THAT CONSIDERATION, THAT'S THE ORIGIN OF THE RESOLUTION.

IS THERE ANYTHING ALREADY ON THE BOOKS OR ANY GUIDELINES FROM NEW YORK STATE OR LAWS THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE? WELL, I'VE GOT A CASE WHERE, UH, UH, PERB AND , UH, UH, STRUCK DOWN THE MUNICIPALITY'S, UH, POSITION.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NOT CHUCK NAUGHTON SENT TO ME, UH, BECAUSE OF A SURREPTITIOUSLY TAPED, UH, UH, INTERVIEW OF A GIVEN EMPLOYEE.

BUT I'LL TELL YOU, LOOK AT, I, I, I DON'T WANNA, I DON'T WANT TO, UH, MAKE IT A PARTISAN THING.

I JUST THINK IF WE'RE HONORABLE PEOPLE, WE, WE DON'T WANNA BE ACCUSED OF TRYING TO ENSNARE, UH, THE UNKNOWING, UH, OR ENTRAP PEOPLE.

I THINK IF WE'RE GONNA RECORD, WE SHOULD GIVE PEOPLE NOTICE.

I WASN'T DISAGREEING.

WHAT I WAS WONDERING IS WHETHER THIS PLAYED OFF OF SOMETHING ALREADY IN PLACE, THAT MAYBE THERE WERE GUIDELINES OUT THERE ALREADY IN PLACE OR LAW ALREADY IN PLACE.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS, I WAS INQUIRING ABOUT WALTERS, I DON'T KNOW THAT, UH, MYSELF, BUT I'LL DEFER TO WALTER.

OH, I KNOW.

I KNEW.

NEW YORK STATE IS A ONE PARTY CONSENT, SO IF ONE PARTY CONSENTS, THEN THEY CAN RECORD.

SO PRESUMABLY IF YOU AND I HAD A CONVERSATION AND I JUST MADE THAT DECISION, I COULD RECORD MY CONVERSATION WITH YOU WITHOUT TELLING YOU MM-HMM .

THAT'S THE LETTER OF THE LAW.

BUT I THINK WHAT JIM IS TRYING TO DO AND IS SUGGESTING THAT FOR THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, THAT FOR A GREATER TRANSPARENCY, INTERACTIONS WITH EMPLOYEES AND WITH PUBLIC, UH, AND, AND PERHAPS A SENSE OF, OF FAIR PLAY, SO TO SPEAK, TO TELL PEOPLE, IF I'M GONNA RECORD THIS MEETING, LET THEM KNOW THAT I'M GOING TO RECORD THIS MEETING.

SO THIS IS NOT IN CONFLICT WITH THAT.

THIS IS AN ENHANCEMENT OF THAT.

EXACTLY.

HEY, UH, SUPERVISOR? YES, SIR.

WHO'S THERE? IT'S, UH, KEVIN TRASK.

I JUST WANNA, UH, CLARIFY THAT, YOU KNOW, IN POLICE PRACTICE, WE DO SOMETIMES RECORD, UH, INTERVIEWS THAT ARE ONE PARTY, UH, INTERVIEWS AND, UM, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING THAT'S MADE, UH, THERE'S AN EXCEPTION FOR THAT ANYWHERE HERE.

WELL, I THINK WE BETTER ADD ONE CHIEF.

THAT'S A GOOD THING.

THANKS.

HOW ABOUT IF I GO TO RESOLVE THAT, THE PROHIBITION, I'M READING IT, THE PROHIBITION AGAINST SURREPTITIOUS RECORDING SHALL NOT APPLY TO POLICE INVESTIGATORY WORK.

HOW'S THAT? THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

AND ALSO JUST BE ADVISED THAT SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE LINES AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SEAN CRO WOULD KNOW, WHICH ONES, UM, ARE RECORDED, AND I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY KIND OF, UH, PRE-WARNING ON THAT.

SO WHEN THEY CALL DISPATCH OR WHEN THEY CALL OTHER LINES, THOSE, SOME OF THOSE LINES ARE RECORDED.

ALRIGHT.

SO WHAT IF I WERE TO SAY THIS THEN, CHIEF, LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET THIS CORRECTLY.

THAT THE PROHIBITION AGAINST SURREPTITIOUS RECORDING SHALL NOT APPLY TO POLICE INVESTIGATORY WORK OR CONVERSATIONS PERTAINING TO PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES.

HOW DOES THAT SOUND, SIR? SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.

SOUNDS GREAT.

OKAY.

I'LL, I'LL, UH, ASK TO AMEND THAT WITH THE BOARD'S APPROVAL AND WE'LL SEE HOW YOU GUYS AND GIRLS FEEL ABOUT THAT.

HEY, JIM, THIS IS, UH, JIM, THIS IS TED.

UM, YES, SIR.

JUST DOTING OFF OF WHAT, UH, WALTER RUTH SAID.

UH, THE STATE IS A, UH, SINGLE CONSENT, SO THE RESOLUTION IS IN CONFLICT WITH NEW YORK STATE LAW.

WELL, I DON'T THINK WE'RE PRECLUDED FROM, UH, ADOPTING A HIGHER STANDARD.

UH, AND I THINK AS A MATTER OF POLICY UNDER THE GENERAL MUNICIPAL LAW, TOWNSHIPS ARE GIVEN LEEWAY TO TREAT, UH, MORE

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LIBERALLY THEIR INTERACTIONS WITH CITIZENS.

THE STATE LAW DOESN'T SAY YOU HAVE TO RECORD OR, OR HAVE TO DO IT SURREPTITIOUSLY.

WE'RE JUST SAYING THAT GOOD POLICY, UH, REQUIRES, UH, AN HONEST DECLARATION SO THAT PEOPLE WHO DEAL WITH US DON'T FEEL ENSNARED OR ENTRAPPED.

THE EXCEPTION TO, UH, WHAT HAS SAID, UH, WHICH I JUST WROTE DOWN AS AN AMENDED RESOLVE, I HOPE WILL NOT IMPAIR OUR ABILITY TO, UH, TO CONDUCT POLICE INVESTIGATIONS OR DISCHARGE OUR PUBLIC SAFETY RESPONSIBILITIES.

BUT THE LAW DOESN'T PROHIBIT US FROM ACT ENACTING SOMETHING THAT IS MORE STRINGENT OR MORE LIBERAL.

SO IT, IT APPEARS, UH, FROM READING THE RESOLUTION THAT IT IN FACT, UH, IS IN FACT, UH, IN CONFLICT WITH THE LAW.

UH, TO YOUR POINT, RECORDINGS THAT ARE IN, UH, RELATION TO INVESTIGATIONS, UH, AS CHIEF TRASK HAS ALLUDED TO, WOULD SEEM TO BE THE ALLOWABLE EXCEPTION.

POLICE INVESTIGATIONS, POLICE INVESTIGATIONS, UH, WALTER, UH, WHAT IS YOUR TAKE UPON, UH, UH, THIS POLICY DETERMINATION? NO, I, I THINK HAVING AN EXCEPTION FOR POLICE INVESTIGATIONS MAKES SENSE.

UH, THE POLICE ARE GOVERNED BY THE CRIMINAL PROCEDURE LAW, AND IF A PERSON, INDIVIDUAL IS CHARGED, UH, THE DISCOVERY STATUTE WILL OUTLINE WHEN WHAT INFORMATION HAS TO BE TURNED OVER TO THE DEFENSE AND WHEN THAT HAS TO BE TURNED OVER TO THE DEFENSE.

SO I THINK THAT EXCEPTION WILL COVER THAT, AND THAT PERSON WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THAT IF IT'S GOING TO BE USED AGAINST HIM.

REGARDING HAVING THIS POLICY IN PLACE FOR MEMBERS OF THE, UH, UH, STAFF, THE TOWN EMPLOYEES OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, AS WELL AS MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC, UH, I THINK IS ACCEPTABLE AND I THINK IS, UH, A GOOD POLICY FOR THE TOWN OF HAMBURG TO HAVE AM AM I READ INCORRECTLY OR DOES THE RESOLUTION IN FACT THEN REQUIRE TWO PERSON CONSENT? THAT'S THE WAY IT READS.

THE RESOLUTION INDICATES THAT YOU HAVE TO GIVE NOTICE TO THE PARTIES OR PARTY PARTICIPATING IN THE MEETING OR INTERVIEW THAT THE MEETING OR INTERVIEW IS BEING RECORDED.

UH, AND, UH, UH, AND THAT'S ALL IT REQUIRES.

WANTS A COPY OF THE RECORDING.

HE OR SHE, OR THEY SHOULD BE ENTITLED, I WOULD THINK, TO RECEIVE A COPY.

OKAY.

IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT RESOLUTIONS THAT ARE IN CONFLICT WITH NEW YORK STATE LAW IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE.

IT'S NOT IN CONFLICT.

WE'VE ALREADY GONE OVER THAT.

OKAY.

YEAH, I AGREE.

BY THE WAY, I AGREE WITH, WITH WHAT, WHAT THE SUPERVISORS SAYING AND WHAT WALTER WAS SAYING, IT'S, THERE'S NO CONFLICT WITH STATE LAW HERE.

UM, NOT AT ALL.

OKAY.

I AGREE TOO.

ALRIGHT.

I GUESS ENOUGH SAID ABOUT THAT.

AND THOSE THAT ARE IN FAVOR OF IT CAN VOTE FOR IT.

THOSE THAT DON'T LIKE IT, THEY'RE FREE TO VOTE AGAINST IT.

ALRIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO NUMBER 16.

UM, THIS IS WHAT SAM ALLUDED TO EARLIER.

SHE PREPARED THIS RESOLUTION, UH, FOR ME, UH, AND IT SIMPLY IN THE RESOLVED, IT SIMPLY SAYS, UH, UH, THE NUT AND BOLT OF IT IS THAT ALL PURCHASE OF EQUIPMENT GREATER THAN A THOUSAND DOLLARS CEASED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE.

BUT THERE'S AN AMPLIFYING RESOLVED CLAUSE THAT THE TITLE BOARD APPROVAL IS REQUIRED IN INSTANCES WHERE A CURRENT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IS NO LONGER WORKING AND A PURCHASE OF EQUIPMENT, 30,000 IS DETERMINED TO BE ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY FOR THE FUNCTIONS OF TOWN GOVERNMENT.

SO THIS, UH, IN RESPONSE TO CO AND THE ECONOMIC COLLAPSE THAT WE HAVE EXPERIENCING, IF I CAN, UH, COMMENT ON BOTH, UH, 16 AND 17.

SO, UM, LET'S DO 16 FIRST.

WE'LL GET TO 17 IN A MINUTE.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

SO 16 FIRST, SO IT'S A LITTLE VAGUE TO ME.

I'M JUST ASKING A QUESTION.

SO WHAT IF WE, UH, OUR B AND G NEEDS TO, UH, DO BLACKTOP WORK IN THE PLAYGROUND, SO IT NEEDS TO DO, UH, SOME KIND OF WORK THAT'S OVER A THOUSAND DOLLARS.

THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO IT.

NO, SIR.

THIS TALKS ABOUT EQUIPMENT WORK.

IT'S THE PURCHASE OF EQUIPMENT.

NOW, YOU KNOW WHAT, MIKE, UH, I WOULD SUGGEST THIS AND TAKE, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT JUST OCCURRED TO ME, SAM, I HOPE YOU WON'T MIND ME SAYING THIS IN THE FINAL RESOLVE.

IT SAYS, JUST TO READ IT VERY CAREFULLY, THAT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVAL IS

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REQUIRED IN INSTANCES WHERE A CURRENT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IS NO LONGER WORKING.

I THINK I WOULD ADD SOMETHING THERE, OR IS IN CONDITION, OR IS IN POOR WORKING ORDER.

AND A PURCHASE OF, OF EQUIPMENT GREATER THAN A THOUSAND IS DETERMINED TO BE ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY FOR THE FUNCTIONS OF TOWN GOVERNMENT.

THIS IS JUST A SUPPRESS BUDGETARY EXPENDITURES.

AND TO TRY TO HOLD THE LINE AND REQUIRE DEPARTMENT HEADS TO SAY TO US, HEY, LOOK, THIS IS GENUINELY NEEDED.

IT'S NOT A WISHLIST ITEM.

IT'S GENUINELY NEEDED BECAUSE A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT ISN'T WORKING, OR I'M ADDING AN AMENDMENT HERE IS IN SUCH POOR WORKING ORDER THAT WE REALLY CAN'T FUNCTION WITH IT.

THAT'S ALL.

OKAY.

I , CAN YOU MAKE ANOTHER, CAN I MAKE ANOTHER SUGGESTION, PLEASE? I KNOW IN OUR, UH, UH, PROCUREMENT POLICY, WE HAVE, UH, TWO THRESHOLDS, ONE THRESHOLD FOR DEPARTMENTS AND ANOTHER THRESHOLD HOLD FOR THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE EQUIPMENT THEY'RE TYPICALLY PURCHASING.

SO, WOULD IT, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR THIS RESOLUTION TO REFLECT THAT ALSO THAT MAYBE EVEN, UH, IN THIS WE NEED TO IN INCORPORATE, UM, A DIFFERENT THRESHOLD FOR THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT? WELL, WHAT'S THE RATIONALE FOR THAT? WELL, I THINK BECAUSE AGAIN, WITH THE PROCUREMENT POLICY, IT, IT, IT CITES OR, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, UM, DEMONSTRATES THE FACT THAT THE HIGHWAY WILL FREQUENTLY HAVE PURCHASES BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING THAT ARE HIGHER.

SO THERE'S LIKE TWO LEVELS, AND I UNDERSTAND, AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, A VALUABLE RESOLUTION TO HAVE, BUT POSSIBLY IF THERE WERE TWO THRESHOLDS HERE, ALSO, JUST SO THAT IT REFLECTED AGAIN, THE NATURE OF WHAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH IN THE PURCHASES.

UM, TED, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, A THOUGHT HERE ALSO THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONTRIBUTE.

YEP.

THANK YOU, BETH, FOR, UH, NOTING THAT, UH, WE HAVE EQUIPMENT HERE THAT HAS, UH, TIRES, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT COST OVER A THOUSAND DOLLARS.

YOU KNOW, THIS WAS BROUGHT UP BACK IN 2018, UH, IN A RESOLUTION THAT WASN'T SECONDED AT THAT POINT BECAUSE WE HAD GONE DOWN THE PATH TO TALK ABOUT THE EQUIPMENT AND THE NEEDS OF THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT AND CERTAINLY, UH, BEING CATEGORIZED AS AN ESSENTIAL SERVICE, UH, AND THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE USE, UH, IT'S NOT FRIVOLOUS.

IT'S ALL NEEDED.

AND IF THERE'S A REPAIR NEEDED, UH, WE'VE GOTTA DO IT, UH, POST HASTE IN ORDER TO CONTINUE TO DELIVER THE SERVICES TO THE RESIDENTS OF WHICH THEY EXPECT.

OKAY.

WELL, THAT MAY BE TRUE, UH, TO SOME EXTENT FOR BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS, UH, AND FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL.

WHY DON'T WE DO THIS? I GOT AN IDEA.

WHY DON'T WE TABLE THIS AND LET'S LET, UH, BETH, YOU'RE TED CASEY'S LIAISON.

WHY DON'T YOU WORK THROUGH SOME IDEAS AND, UH, NETWORK WITH ME? I'VE GOT BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS.

UH, KAREN'S GOT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I'M WILLING TO LOOK AT SOME FLEXIBILITY, BUT REMEMBER WHAT WE'RE TRYING, WHAT SAM IS TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE, WHAT I'M TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH IS TO SUPPRESS ALL SPENDING MM-HMM .

UH, TO THAT WHICH IS JUST BASICALLY ESSENTIAL.

UH, OBVIOUSLY LIKE BEAUTY IS IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER.

ESSENTIAL SPENDING CAN BE IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER.

WHAT IS ESSENTIAL TO ONE, MAYBE SOMEWHAT, UH, DUBIOUS TO ANOTHER.

SO MM-HMM .

LET'S TABLE IT AND WE'LL COME UP WITH SOME AMPLIFICATION.

IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYBODY? YES, THAT WORKS.

UH, THE REASON I BROUGHT UP IS JUST, UH, FROM YOUR EMAIL, YOU KNOW, IT MENTIONED ABOUT, UH, SPENDING.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY IT.

THAT'S ALL.

ALRIGHT, WELL, ANYWAY, IT'S EQUIPMENT ONLY.

AND WHY DON'T WE DO THIS, FOLKS.

LET'S TABLE IT TO OUR MEETING ON JUNE 22ND, AND AWAY WE GO.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

NOW ONTO THE NEXT ONE.

UH, UH, THE ES LAY THE FOUNDATION.

UH, WE GET INTO THE RESULTS AND IT SAYS, THE TOWN OF HAMBURG HERE, RETRO TO 6 1 20 AS IT RELATES TO THE HIRING OF ADDITIONAL PART-TIME LABORERS IN B AND G, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A PART-TIME CLERK, MARGARET AVERY, UH, WHO START DATE IS SIX NINE AND 1180 AN HOUR.

THE REASON MARGARET AVERY GETS A, A PASS HERE IS BECAUSE, UH, PAT, PAT RYAN HAS INDICATED FOR THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS THAT LORI GEL IS ESSENTIALLY ALONE IN THE 31 MEMBER DEPARTMENT AND THAT SOME HE HAD

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PART-TIME HELP TO ASSIST LORI IN 2019, BUT HAS BEEN WAITING TO GET SOME HELP, UH, FOR 2020.

SO, UH, WE HAVE, UH, A NUMBER OF OTHER PEOPLE HE WOULD LIKE TO HIRE AS PART-TIME LABORERS, BUT QUITE FRANKLY, UH, WE'VE GOTTA HOLD THE LINE ON THINGS.

SO THAT WAS THE RATIONALE.

HE HAS RELUCTANTLY AGREED, UH, TO IT.

AND, UH, THERE WE GO.

NOW ON THE NEXT RESOLVE, UH, ORIGINALLY HAD COME UP WITH THIS NOTION THAT, UH, WE TAKE THE PART-TIMERS WHO BE PART-TIME SEASONAL, GO FROM 19 TO 39 HOURS AND ELIMINATE THE 20 HOURS, UH, PER PERSON.

I GOT TO THINKING THAT THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT UNFAIR, UH, AND OB DUBIOUS LEGAL BASIS.

SO I OFFERED AN AMENDMENT TO THIS RESOLUTION, UH, WHICH I SENT TO YOU ALL, AND IT WOULD JUST BE EFFECTIVE 6 1 20 THAT DONALD HAMBURG SHALL NOT HIRE ANY ADDITIONAL PART-TIME EMPLOYEES WITHIN THE HAMBURG HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT FOR THE BALANCE OF THE CALENDAR YEAR 2020.

WE'LL TAKE THAT UP, BUT LET ME JUST GET THROUGH THE REST OF THEM AND THEN WE CAN GO, WE'LL TAKE THEM ONE IF YOU WANT.

UH, WE ALSO SAY THAT EXCEPT IN CIRCUMSTANCE, EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCE, THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO ADD FULL-TIME PERSONNEL IN THE, UH, TOWN OF HAMBURG FOR THE NEXT 90 DAYS.

NOW, I ANTICIPATE, I ANTICIPATE THAT AN ESSENTIAL PERSONNEL, UH, OF AN ESSENTIAL PERSON WILL BE A PROSECUTING ATTORNEY ONCE THE COURT'S OPENED UP.

AS YOU KNOW, OUR PROSECUTING ATTORNEY RESIGNED.

WE HAVEN'T APPOINTED ANYBODY IN THE HOPE OF SAVING SOME MONEY.

THERE'S NOTHING TO PROSECUTE.

THE COURTS ARE CLOSED.

SO THAT PARTICULAR, UH, PERSON, UH, HAS BEEN SCREENED BY KAREN AND, AND SEAN, AND WE'LL DISCUSS IT AT THE 22ND MEETING.

BUT SHE'LL WORK FOR A FEE OR A SALARY THAT IS REDUCED OVER WHAT HER PREDECESSOR WAS GETTING SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC.

SO, WE'LL, INDIVIDUAL FULL-TIMERS IN THE NEXT 90 DAYS, IF THERE IS SOME EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCE, EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCE, MEANING SOME REAL GENUINE, UH, NEED.

OKAY? NEXT RESOLVE, UH, PART-TIME EMPLOYEES EMPLOYED AT THE HAMBURG SENIOR COMMUNITY CENTER SHALL ONLY BE PAID FOR THE DAYS THEY WORKED.

UH, NOW WE HAVE MARTY'S HERE, MARTY, WE HAVE ABOUT 50 PEOPLE I THINK, WHO ARE PART-TIME WORKING ON VARIOUS PROGRAMS AT THE SENIOR CENTER.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES, JIM.

THAT'S CORRECT.

NOW THAT THAT 50 NUMBER IS, UM, THOSE WHO WORK SENIOR SERVICES, THERE'S ADDITIONAL PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING RECREATION TOO.

OKAY.

SO MARTY, UH, YOU, YOU, THAT'S ALRIGHT.

YOU, YOU AND I AND SEAN, UH, UH, HI, DEON, YOU AND I, YOU AND I AND SEAN CONLEY DISCUSSED THIS.

SO INSTEAD OF PAYING THESE FOLKS, UH, WE'RE FOR THEIR 19 HOURS ON PART-TIME PAYMENT, A PART-TIME SALARY OR WAGE, WE'RE ONLY GONNA PAY THEM FOR THE HOURS THEY'RE CALLED IN.

SO THEY'RE ELIGIBLE TO, UH, GET SOME REDUCED ON, BUT THERE'S ABOUT 50 OF THOSE PEOPLE AND IT WOULD SAVE A LOT OF MONEY.

THAT'S CORRECT, JIM.

OKAY.

NOW THE NEXT ONE, UH, WE HAVE SUSPENDED ALL RECREATION DEPARTMENT PLAYGROUND PROGRAMS THIS SUMMER.

UH, AND THAT WOULD OBVIATE THE NEED FOR SOME PART-TIME WORKERS THERE THE MOST IS THE FINAL ONE.

UH, WE DISCUSSED THIS, UH, LAST THURSDAY AND FRIDAY, NO, LAST WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY, I'M SORRY.

UM, WE ARE ONLY GONNA HAVE ONE DAY CAMP PROGRAM THIS SUMMER.

WE WERE GONNA HAVE AT THE NIKE CENTER 'CAUSE WE'RE NO LONGER RUNNING ONE, OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD LONG BEACH.

SO, UH, GIVEN WHAT IS A SOMEWHAT DECLINING ENROLLMENT AT THE NIKE CENTER, AND GIVEN THE FURTHER FACT THAT SOCIAL DISTANCING AND MASKS AND, UH, CORRALLING OF YOUNGER CHILDREN IS, IS GOING TO BE TOUGH, WE CAME TO THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE DISPENSE FOR THIS SEASON WITH THE DAY CAMP

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PROGRAM.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S IT.

NOW, YOU'RE WELCOME.

IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CRITICISMS, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME.

I, I TAKE A GO, UH, A GO AT THIS.

UM, SO LAST WEEK, UM, YOU SENT OUT A MEMO TO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND, AND I AGREE WITH A, A LOT OF THIS, SO LET ME JUST GO THROUGH IT ALL.

UH, YOU SENT A MEMO OUT TO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS TO TRY, YOU KNOW, CONSERVE MONEY AND, AND SPENDING AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.

AND NOW THE NEXT WEEK WE'RE PASSING RESOLUTION, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY STEPPING OVER THE TOP OF IT.

AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY I SEE IT.

UH, IN MY OPINION, UH, WE SHOULD LET THE DEPARTMENT HEADS DO THEIR WORK AND TRY AND CONSERVE THE MONEY.

UH, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, A FULL-TIME HIRING FREEZE, UH, THE , EVEN THOUGH I'M SAD ABOUT IT, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM.

I, I BELIEVE MAR MARTY'S ON THE RIGHT PATH THERE WITH CANCELING THOSE TWO THINGS.

UM, I HAVE A CONCERN FOR, UH, B AND G, UH, TO DO WORK ON OUR PLAYGROUNDS AND TO GET WORK DONE AROUND TOWN.

I MEAN, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW WE NEED TO SAVE MONEY, AND, AND I A HUNDRED PERCENT AGREE WITH THAT, BUT I DON'T WANNA HANDCUFF OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS TO GET THE WORK DONE THAT, THAT NEEDS TO GET DONE.

SO THAT'S MY 2 CENTS ON IT.

OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE WITH 2 CENTS TO PUT INTO THE POT? YEAH, JIM, THIS IS, UH, TED, GO AHEAD TED.

JIM, THIS IS TED.

UM, JUST A COUPLE OF CONCERNS RELATIVE TO THIS RESOLUTION.

UH, I HAD PUT IN FOR THE, UH, MY PRESENT CLERK TO MOVE FROM THE PART-TIME TO SEASONAL, UH, AS HE HAD DONE LAST YEAR FROM THE 19 TO THE 39 HOURS.

UH, I'D ALSO PUT IN FOR, UM, THE REPLACEMENT OF MY OTHER PART-TIME CLERK, UH, WITH A NEW ONE, WHICH I WAS ABLE TO FIND, UM, THAT WAS SUBMITTED IN A RESOLUTION LAST THURSDAY THE FOURTH.

UM, WE ARE STRUGGLING TO BE ABLE TO EVEN ANSWER THE PHONES HERE.

UH, THIS IS THE BUSIEST TIME OF THE YEAR FOR THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT, AND WE LITERALLY ARE HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME ANSWERING THE PHONES.

UH, THE PHONE CALLS FROM RESIDENTS AND I THINK IT'S OUR OBLIGATION TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THE PHONES FOR THE PEOPLE THAT PAY THE BILLS.

UH, JUST THIS LAST FRIDAY, UH, I THINK IT'S A FRIEND OF YOURS, A NEIGHBOR OF YOURS ON COLUMBIA, UH, SAID TO ME SATURDAY THAT HE HAD CALLED THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT A HALF DOZEN TIMES WITH NO ANSWER.

THAT HAPPENS ON A REGULAR BASIS.

I NEED MY CLERK TO BE MOVED TO SEASONAL PART-TIME, AND I NEED THE NEWLY IDENTIFIED CLERK TO BE BROUGHT ON TO BE ABLE TO AT LEAST ANSWER THE PHONES HERE.

AS FAR AS OUR PART-TIME, EXCUSE ME, PART AS FAR AS OUR PART-TIME HIRING'S CONCERNED, IF YOU'LL RECALL, YEAR OVER YEAR, OUR PART-TIME BUDGET FROM 19 TO PRESENT YEAR WAS REDUCED BY $20,000.

UH, WE BRING ON BOARD AN ADDITIONAL EITHER TWO FULL-TIME, UH, PART-TIME WORKERS ON A SEASONAL BASIS FOR FIVE MONTHS THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE SUMMER MONTHS, AS WELL AS THE THREE PART-TIME PART-TIMERS.

WE MOVE TO SEASONAL PART-TIME.

UH, IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT, THAT IS GOING TO ADVERSELY AFFECT TO THE DELIVERY OF SERVICES FROM THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT INCLUSIVE OF PATCHING, BRUSH CLEANUP, AS WELL AS DOING PIPE WORK THAT WE'VE HAD ON THE BOOKS HERE FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS BECAUSE WE CAN'T GET TO IT.

WE HAVE, UH, A DEPARTMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, NO COINCIDENCE, THEY TAKE THEIR VACATION TIME DURING THE SUMMER.

SO ON A REGULAR BASIS, WE'LL HAVE A HALF DOZEN PEOPLE THAT WILL NOT BE AT WORK.

AND ON A FRIDAY IT'S EVEN MORE SO NOW THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE UNION CONTRACT THAT IS AS WRITTEN, ALLOWS FOR BASED UPON JOB CLASSIFICATION, UH, FOR A CERTAIN NUMBER OF THEM TO BE OFF.

UH, BUT MAKE NO MISTAKE, UH, PEOPLE WANT TO USE THEIR VACATION TIME, WHICH I DON'T BEGRUDGE ANYBODY WANT TO USE THEIR VACATION TIME, BUT WE NEED TO BACKFILL THESE INDIVIDUALS WITH THE PART-TIMERS.

IT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT WE CAN SUSTAIN THE DELIVERY OF THE SERVICE THAT RESIDENTS EXPECT OF THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT.

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OKAY? UH, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT WE'LL DO, UH, IT'S NOW SEVEN O'CLOCK, UH, TED AND, UH, UH, AND MIKE AND EVERYBODY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO TO OUR REGULAR PUBLIC MEETING.

WE CAN CARRY THIS ON, UH, WHEN WE GET TO THIS, UH, ITEM NUMBER, UH, 17 AND 18.

UH, AND, UH, WE'VE ALREADY AGREED TO TABLE 16, SO WE'LL CARRY THE DEBATE ON TO THE PUBLIC MEETING.

BUT WITH YOUR PERMISSION NOW, UH, IT IS AT THE WITCHING HOUR, SO WE'LL HAVE TO, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE WORK SESSION.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND.

SECOND.

OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALRIGHT.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU WOULD BE KIND ENOUGH TO, UH, UH, ADDRESS THE TOWN CLERK AS SHE CALLS THE ROLE, I'D BE GRATEFUL.

THANK YOU.

HERE, COUNCIL.

HERE.

COUNCIL HERE.

COUNCILMAN CONLEY HERE.

OKAY.

ALL PRESENT AND ACCOUNTED FOR.

UH, IF WE COULD ALL AT OUR PLACES SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

FOR ALL.

THANK YOU.

UM, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, UH, NUMBER THREE ON THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A PRETTY SAD ITEM.

UM, A DISTINGUISHED MEMBER OF OUR COMMUNITY PASSED AWAY, RECENTLY PASSED, UH, PASSED.

HE WAS A VALUED EMPLOYEE OF THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURG, WHO ALSO DID MANY GREAT THINGS OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS FOR THE TOWN OF HAMBURG.

SO I'D LIKE TO READ, UH, THE RESOLUTION COMMEMORATING HIS OUTSTANDING SERVICE AT HIS EXEMPLARY LIFE.

RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN OF HAMBURG JOINS OUR FRIENDS IN THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURG, ALONG WITH THE FAMILY OF PAUL BECKER, IN PAYING TRIBUTE TO A LIFE THAT WAS WELL LIVED AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT ALL WHO WORKED WITH PEOPLE OF HAMBURG KNOW THAT PAUL BECKER WAS AN OUTSTANDING PUBLIC SERVANT AND A GENTLEMAN IN EVERY SENSE OF THE TERM, HE SHALL BE GREATLY MISSED.

MAY HIS MEMORY BE AN EXAMPLE FOR ALL OF US.

WE'LL HAVE A, UH, UNANIMOUS SECOND TO THAT.

YES.

JUST A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR MR. BECKER.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I, I JUST WANNA MENTION TOO, I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO, TO DO IT BECAUSE WE JUST LEARNED OF HIS PASSING.

A FORMER DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEY AND AN HIDA, UH, ATTORNEY FOR YEARS, UH, JUSTICE GORMAN'S ASSOCIATE IN THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURG, CRAIG WICK PASSED AWAY, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE PAST WEEK.

UH, WE'LL SEND OUR DEEPEST CONDOLENCES.

I SPEAK FOR ALL OF YOU, UH, WHEN WE SAY TO HIS WIFE AND FAMILY THAT WE'LL GREATLY MISS IT.

THANK YOU EVERYBODY.

OKAY.

ON TO KAREN HOKE, PLEASE.

YES.

MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS.

NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD DOES HEREBY APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS AS FOLLOWS, 5 18 20 20.

THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD WORK SESSION 5 18 20 20.

HAMBURG TOWN BOARD REGULAR MEETING.

SO MOVED.

SECOND ON THE QUESTION.

ALL IN FAVOR A AYE, CARRIE? UH, THE NEXT ONE IS RESOLVE.

THE TOM BOARD ADOPTS THE FOLLOWING MEETING SCHEDULED FOR THE THIRD QUARTER OF 2027.

6 7 20.

AUGUST THREE AUGUST 17TH, AUGUST THE 31ST, SEPTEMBER 14TH AND SEPTEMBER THE 28TH.

WORK SESSION SHALL BEGIN AT 5:30 PM TO BE FOLLOWED BY THE REGULAR MEETINGS AT 7:00 PM IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? SECOND.

ALRIGHT, ON THE QUESTION.

ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THE MOTION IS CARRIED.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE HAVE A PUBLIC, UH, HEARING SCHEDULED FOR 7:00 PM IT IS JUST A COUPLE MINUTES AFTERWARDS.

I'M JUST GONNA READ THE FIRST TWO PARAGRAPHS, UH, AND THEN ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THAT.

PLEASE TAKE NOTICE THAT THERE HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO THE TOM BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURGER ON 5 11 20

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PURSUANT TO MUNICIPAL HOME RULE LAW, A PROPOSED LOCAL LAW TO BE KNOWN AS PROPOSED LOCAL LAW.

NUMBER THREE FOR THE YEAR 2020.

THIS LOCAL LAW AUTHORIZES THE ADOPTION OF THE SOLAR ENERGY LOCAL LAW PURSUANT TO SECTIONS ONE 30 AND 2 61 THROUGH 2 65 OF THE TOWN LAW FOR THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

THE SOLAR ENERGY LOCAL LAW IS ADAPTED TO ADVANCE AND PROTECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELFARE OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG BY CREATING REGULATIONS FOR THE INSTALLATION AND USE OF ENERGY GENERATING SYSTEMS AND EQUIPMENT WITH THE FOLLOWING OBJECTIVES AND INTENT.

AND THEN WE GO THROUGH A NUMBER OF THEM HERE.

I WON'T READ THOSE LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, BECAUSE WHILE WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION, OUR LAST MEETING ON MAY THE 18TH ABOUT THIS, UH, WE HAVE ONE OF THE DRAFTS PERSONS, UH, MARK WALLING HERE WITH US.

MARK, UH, I'M GONNA ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANNA ADD, UH, FOR OUR EDIFICATION BEFORE WE DO THAT? WELL, THE ONLY THING I WOULD WANNA MENTION IS THAT, UM, BASED ON THE, UH, COMMENTS OF BOARD MEMBERS WHEN THIS WAS FIRST DISCUSSED AT THE BOARD MEETING, UM, WE MADE A COUPLE OF, UM, CHANGES TO THE LAW.

WE, UM, WE WERE MORE SPECIFIC ON WHAT WOULD, UM, BE ACCEPTABLE, UH, TO ELIMINATE GLARE FROM A SOLAR HEATING SYSTEM.

AND THEN WE WERE ALSO MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT, UH, LIMITATIONS ON CUTTING TREES.

SO THAT WAS A REVISED DRAFT.

THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE, UM, THAT WAS, UH, DONE.

AND THEN WAS, UM, WAS, UH, POSTED ON THE WEBSITE, UH, FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MARK, MAY I ASK YOU A QUESTION? DO YOU SEE, UH, IN THE, IN THE TYPE, UH, IN THE TYPE TWO, UH, CLASSIFICATION, WE TALK ABOUT GROUND SOLAR ENERGY, UH, SYSTEMS UP TO 2000 SQUARE FEET.

SHOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT IS OKAY, IN YOUR OPINION, IN A ZONING CLASSIFICATION, OUR ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES? OR DOES THAT CREATE TOO MUCH DIFFICULTY? IT MIGHT CREATE TOO MUCH DIFFICULTY.

UM, I, I INCLUDED IT IN THE DRAFT, BUT, UM, IF IT REALLY WAS, UM, I, I DIDN'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THE, THAT ZONING CLASSIFICATION TO REALLY ADVANCE AN OPINION ABOUT WHETHER THAT SHOULD, UH, SHOULD BE ALLOWED, UM, IN THAT ZONING DISTRICT.

I CERTAINLY, I COULD SEE THE BOARD SAYING THEY'RE ONLY ALLOWED IN OTHER ZONING DISTRICTS.

UM, THAT'S, UM, THERE PROBABLY ARE SOME PEOPLE IN THAT ZONING DISTRICT WHO WOULD LIKE THAT KIND OF SYSTEM, BUT IT MAY NOT BE THAT PRACTICAL TO ALLOW IT IN, IN MY OPINION.

IF I MAY GO AHEAD.

IT COULD.

IT'S OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

UH, THE GROUND SY, I MEAN, 2000 SQUARE FEET, A SHEET OF PLYWOOD IS 32 SQUARE FEET.

I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S AN AWFUL BIG SETUP ON THE GROUND.

UH, I WOULD BE MORE APT TO PEOPLE WANTING TO PUT 'EM ON THE ROOF.

YEAH.

ESPECIALLY IN THE R ONE CLASSIFICATIONS.

BUT HERE'S THE THING, UH, FOLKS, UH, I GUESS IT'D BE GOOD ON JULY THE SIXTH TO GET SOME INPUT FROM, UH, PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY TO SEE WHAT THEY THINK.

WE CAN ALWAYS, AFTER THE AMEND THIS TO DEAL WITH THAT CONCERN.

I AGREE.

2000 SQUARE FEET IS A PRETTY GOOD CHUNK OF SPACE.

ALRIGHT.

UH, WITH YOUR PERMISSION, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, UH, RATHER THAN CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, WHICH WE HAVEN'T IN REALITY HAD, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADJOURN THE PUBLIC HEARING TO JULY, 2020 AT 7:00 PM SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN PARTICIPATE IN ADDITION TO US.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND.

SECOND.

OKAY.

MS. FARRELL'S, ON THE SECOND ON THE QUESTION, ALL IN FAVOR A AYE, AYE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE'LL, WE'LL ASSUME THAT IT'S ON FOR THE SIXTH THEN.

OKAY.

BETH FARRELL'S NEXT.

WE, HAMBURG COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WAS AWARDED 2020 ERIE COUNTY LEGISLATIVE FUNDING IN THE AMOUNT OF $3,000 VIA ERIE COUNTY LEGISLATOR JOHN GILMORE.

A SPECIFIC PER PURPOSE OF PROVIDING PUBLIC BENEFIT FUNDING.

AND WHEREAS THE 2020 FUNDING SHALL BE UTILIZED FOR A DA TRAINING FOR THE TOWN'S DISPATCH OFFICE.

NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES HAMBURG COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TO ENTER INTO A PUBLIC BENEFIT FUNDING CONTRACT WITH ERIE COUNTY IN

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THE AMOUNT OF $3,000 FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING THE A DA TRAINING AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN OF HAMBURG EXPAND ITS CURRENT CONTRACT WITH DISABILITY AWARENESS TRAINING, ALSO KNOWN AS DAT DEBT TO INCLUDE THE NEW PUBLIC BENEFIT FUNDING.

SO AS TO FURTHER THE TOWN OF HAMBURG'S COMMITMENT TO A DA COMPLIANCE.

SO MOVE, IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND.

SECOND IS, UH, KAREN HOKE, UH, ON THE QUESTION.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THANK YOU.

UH, MR. CONLEY.

IT RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD DOES HEREBY APPROVE THE FACILITY USE APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY CONNECT LIFE FOR USE OF THE HAMBURG SENIOR COMMUNITY CENTER PARKING LOT ON AUGUST 15TH, 2020 FOR THE PURPOSE, HAVING THEIR BLOODMOBILES PRESENT BETWEEN 10:00 AM AND 2:00 PM FOR THOSE IN OUR COMMUNITY WISHING TO DONATE BLOOD LIMITED ACCESS TO LABORATORIES IN THE HSCC OR THE CONNECT LIFE STAFF AND THOSE MAKING DONATIONS OF BLOOD WILL BE PERMITTED.

FINAL APPROVAL WILL INCLUDE APPROVAL OF CONNECT LIFE'S CERTIFICATE OF INSURANCE BY THE TOWN OF HAMBURG LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND INSURANCE CONSULTANT.

SECOND.

OKAY.

ON THE QUESTION.

ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

MOTION IS CARRIED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD DOES HEREBY AUTHORIZE THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TO ADVERTISE A BID FOR THE PURPOSE OF COMPLETING THE 2020 VILLAGE OF BLAZEDALE CDBG INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT ON HELEN AVENUE.

SO MOVED.

SECOND.

ALL THE QUESTION.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

THE MOTION IS CARRIED.

UH, RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN ATTORNEY SHALL PREPARE AN RFP FOR THE TOWN BOARD TO RETAIN THE SERVICES OF BOND COUNCIL FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE LED PROJECT AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS IN THE TOWN.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND.

SECOND IS MR. PETRI ON THE QUESTION.

HI, JIM, THIS IS TED.

YES, SIR.

ON THE QUESTION.

WAIT, WAIT A SECOND, TED, ON THE QUESTION.

ANY BOARD MEMBERS PLEASE? UH, TED, YOU WANTED TO SPEAK ON THIS QUESTION? YES.

UM, WE HAD JUST HAD A CONVERSATION IN THE WORK SESSION REGARDING, UM, A COMMITTEE REGARDING, UH, A BOND.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE NEED FOR PAVING.

UM, IS THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, ARE THEY PREPARING, UH, A DOCUMENT TO, UM, DETERMINE HOW MUCH WE WE CAN AFFORD? AS YOU HAD MENTIONED, WE HAVEN'T COME TO THAT CONCLUSION YET.

DUE TO, UH, OUR AWAITING A REPORT FROM DRESCHER AND MKI AS TO THE EXTENT OF OUR OPERATING DEFICIT.

WE ASSUME IT'S TO BE , BUT WE'RE WAITING FOR CONFIRMATION AS SAM POINTED OUT AT THE WORK SESSION.

THAT WILL BE, UH, IN ALL LIKELIHOOD, UH, UH, KNOWN TO US BY THE TIME WE MEET NEXT ON THE 22ND OF JUNE.

OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THE QUESTION? ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

THE MOTION IS KAREN.

UH, KAREN, WE RESOLVED THE TOWN BOARD APPROVE THE HIRING OF CONNOR MOSES AS A PART-TIME PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCHER TRAINEE AT A RATE OF $15 PER HOUR.

FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN A 3 0 2 0 0.10.

TWO SECOND.

I'LL SECOND BY MS. FARRELL ON THE QUESTION.

ALL IN AYE.

AYE.

THANK YOU.

UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, NUMBER 12 IS A RESOLUTION TO THE POINT, UH, UH, MR. JOSEPH O'BRIEN AS A PART-TIME SECURITY OFFICER.

IT DOESN'T HAVE A REFERENCE TO A, UH, SPECIFIC FUNDING SOURCE, NOR DOES IT HAVE ANY OTHER DETAILS.

SO I WOULD MOVE THAT WE AMEND, UH, RESOLUTION NUMBER 12 WITH THE, UH, LANGUAGE SET OUT IN RESOLUTION 13.

JUST TO READ THE RESOLVED CLAUSE IN 13, IT SAYS, RETIRED TOWN POLICE OFFICER JOSEPH O'BRIEN IS HEREBY APPOINTED TO THE FOREGOING POSITION FOR THE TERM BEGINNING 6 6 20 TO LABOR DAY 2020.

FUNDING FAED POSITION SHALL BE PAID FROM ACCOUNT 71 80 0.104.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT AMENDMENT? SECOND.

SECOND.

SECOND, MS. FARRELL ON THE AMENDMENT, ALL IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT PLEASE SIGNIFY

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BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

NOW THE RESOLUTION NUMBER 12 AS AMENDED, UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT THE AMENDED RESOLUTION NUMBER 12 BE ADOPTED.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND.

SECOND.

ALRIGHT, UH, MR. PETRIS ON THAT SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SIGN? AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THE MOTION IS CARRIED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

UH, WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG ADOPTED PROCEDURAL RULES FOR THE CONDUCT OF TOWN BOARD 62 YEARS AGO IN 1958, AND WHEREAS THE FOREGOING RULES ARE INSUFFICIENT AND OUTDATED NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT TOWN ATTORNEYS SHALL PREPARE PROPOSED RULES OF PROCEDURE FOR THE CONDUCT OF ALL TOWN BOARD MEETINGS WITHIN TWO MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE ADOPTION OF THIS RESOLUTION.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND.

SECOND, MS. HULK ON THE QUESTION.

ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AYE IS CARRIE.

NEXT ITEM.

A BUSINESS RESOLVED THAT WHENEVER A TOWN BOARD MEMBER OR OTHER ELECTED OFFICIAL PUBLIC OFFICER OR DEPARTMENT HEAD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG INTERVIEWS OR CONDUCTS A MEETING WITH AN EMPLOYEE, EMPLOYEES, CONTRACTOR, CONTRACTORS, OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, SUCH INTERACTION CAN ONLY BE RECORDED WHEN ADVANCE NOTICE IS GIVEN TO THE SUBJECT OR SUBJECTS OF THE INTERVIEW OR MEETING, AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE INDIVIDUAL OR INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE SUBJECTED TO A RECORDED INTERVIEW OR MEETING SHALL BE ENTITLED TO A TRUE AND COMPLETE COPY OF THE RECORDING UPON A WRITTEN REQUEST FOR SAME TO BE PROVIDED WITHIN 10 DAYS OF THE DATE OF THE REQUEST.

UH, I WOULD MOVE THAT WE CONSIDER THIS ONLY NOT APPROVE IT, I WANNA OFFER A, AN AMENDMENT.

SO THE MOTION IS TO CONSIDER THIS ITEM AND MOVE IT FROM THE TABLE FOR YOUR DEBATE.

UH, IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND.

SECOND IS MR. CONLEY.

UH, ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THE MOTION IS CARRIED.

I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENT TO THIS, UH, MOTION, WHICH IS NOW BEFORE US.

AND THEN IF YOU APPROVE THE AMENDMENT, UH, THEN THE MOTION IS AMENDED, WILL BE VOTED ON AGAIN, THE ADDITIONAL RESOLVE CLAUSE THAT WE AGREED, OR AT LEAST WAS WRITTEN DOWN DURING THE WORK SESSION, THAT THE PROHIBITION AGAINST SURREPTITIOUS RECORDING SHALL NOT APPLY TO POLICE INVESTIGATORY WORK OR CONVERSATIONS PERTAINING OR ANY CONVERSATIONS PERTAINING TO PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES.

THAT IS THE AMENDMENT.

IS THERE A SECOND TO AMENDING, UH, RESOLUTION 15 WITH THIS AMENDMENT? SECOND.

SECOND ON THE QUESTION.

ON, ON THE QUESTION.

JIM, THIS IS TODD.

GO AHEAD.

HANG ON.

TODD, HANG ON.

UH, SUPERVISOR ON THE QUESTION.

I, UH, I WASN'T AWARE THAT WE WERE PASSING THE FIRST PART.

UH, I AM, UH, YOU HAVEN'T PASSED THE FIRST PART, MIKE.

WE'RE JUST CONSIDERING THE FIRST.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

SO WE DIDN'T PASS THE FIRST PART.

WE'RE GOING TO AMEND AND THEN GO TO PASS.

OKAY.

THAT'S CORRECT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

CARRY ON.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UH, SO MR. CONLEY HAS SECONDED, UH, THE AMENDED THE AMENDMENT TO THE RESOLUTION.

UH, ALL IN FAVOR OF THE SECOND PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

NOW THE RESOLUTION IS AMENDED WITH THE THREE RESOLVED CLAUSES SET FORTH THEREIN.

NOW I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT AS AMENDED.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? SECOND.

SECOND IS MR. CONLEY.

NOW ON THE QUESTION BOARD MEMBERS FIRST, ANYBODY WANT TO, UH, RAISE A QUESTION? SURE.

ON THE QUESTION.

UM, I, I, I DON'T THINK THIS IS NECESSARY.

UH, I'M NOT GONNA VOTE FOR IT.

UH, I THINK ANYBODY WHO COMES INTO TOWN HALL SHOULD ACT LIKE THEY'RE BEING TAPED AT ALL TIMES.

I, I'M JUST NOT FOR THE, WELL, I'M AGAINST IT.

OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE WANNA SPEAK OUT ON THE, THE TOWN BOARD? AGAIN, NOT AGAINST IT, IT'S JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, CONCERNING TO ME THAT THIS IS RELEVANT, THAT I THINK WE OWE IT TO OUR EMPLOYEES FOR THEM TO FEEL SAFE IN GOING TO THEIR DEPARTMENT HIDES AND REACHING OUT TO PEOPLE IN CONVERSATION WITHOUT BEING UNAWARE OF THE POSSIBILITY OF BEING RECORDED.

I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHERE THIS, YOU KNOW, STEMS FROM, UM, BUT I'M, I'M FOR IT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN COVERED.

IT'S ENHANCING WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED EARLIER IS

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ALREADY LEGAL THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT THIS.

OKAY.

UH, NOW ANY OTHER COMMENTS, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN? JIM, THIS IS TED.

YEAH, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT, UH, THE RESOLUTION BE TABLED.

YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU WEREN'T FAMILIAR WITH THE STATE LAW FOR ONE PERSON COULD CONSENT.

UH, I'D ASK THAT YOU ASK THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT THE, WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF ONE PERSON CONSENT? UH, IT APPEARS THAT THE RESOLUTION IS FUNDAMENTALLY IN CONFLICT WITH NEW YORK STATE LAW.

OKAY.

ON THE QUESTION, UH, LET ME DEFER, UH, I'LL HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THIS, BUT LET ME DEFER TO WALTER RUTH AND THEN, UH, MARK WALLING, UH, GENTLEMEN, UH, START WITH YOU WALTER.

I, I DON'T THINK IT'S IN CONFLICT WITH STATE LAW.

STATE LAW REQUIRES AS A MINIMUM, ONE PERSON CONSENTS IF TWO PEOPLE ARE HAVING A CONVERSATION AND, UH, ONE PERSON WANTS TO RECORD IT.

SO YOU DON'T NEED BOTH PARTIES CONSENTS.

THERE'S ABOUT 10 OR 15, I'D SAY ABOUT 10 STATES IN, IN THE UNITED STATES.

2, 2, 2 PARTY CONSENT.

NEW YORK STATE REQUIRES ONE BY OUR TOWN REQUIRING INTERACTIONS WITH THE PUBLIC OR EMPLOYEES TO BE THE INDIVIDUALS TO BE ADVISED THEY'RE BEING RECORDED IS NOT IN CONFLICT WITH STATE LAW.

IT'S PROVIDING AN EXTRA LAYER OF, UM, CONSIDERATION AND PROTECTION TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND NOTICE THAT THEY'RE BEING RECORDED.

I DON'T THINK IT IS IN CONFLICT WITH STATE LAW.

I THINK IT PROVIDES AN ADDITIONAL LEVEL OF, UH, TRANSPARENCY FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND EMPLOYEES.

ALRIGHT, MR. WALLING? MARK, YOU STILL I, YES I AM.

UM, YES, I AGREE.

UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT IN CONFLICT WITH STATE LAW.

UM, IT THE, JUST BECAUSE STATE LAW PERMITS, UH, A ONE PERSON, UM, BEING AWARE OF THE, A SINGLE PERSON BEING AWARE OF A RECORDING AND, AND STATES THAT'S NOT A CRIME, THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S ETHICALLY CORRECT.

SO THE IDEA THAT SOMEHOW THIS RESOLUTION IS IN CONFLICT WITH STATE LAW, THAT'S JUST NOT ACCURATE.

ALRIGHT.

AND, AND I'LL JUST SPEAK VERY BRIEFLY.

I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THE POINTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE.

UH, IT'S MY, IT'S MY HUMBLE OPINION THAT WE OWE THE PUBLIC TRANSPARENCY.

WE OWE CONTRACTORS AND VENDORS TRANSPARENCY.

WE OWE OUR EMPLOYEES THE RESPECT THAT THEY'RE, THEY SHOULD BE ENTITLED TO.

WE WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT THEY CAN SPEAK CANDIDLY TO THEIR DEPARTMENT HEADS OR ELECTED OFFICIALS.

WE DON'T WANT ANYONE TO EVER COME BACK AND SAY TO US THAT THEY FELT ENSNARED OR ENTRAPPED.

THIS IS NOT ONLY ETHICALLY SUPERIOR, UH, TO THE PRESENT STATUS QUO.

IT IS MORALLY THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND.

UH, WE'VE HEARD DEBATE ON THE QUESTION.

ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED NAY.

MR. S IN THE NEGATIVE, THE RESOLUTIONS ADOPTED.

THANK YOU AND GENTLEMEN.

UH, THE NEXT MOTION NUMBER 16, UH, WAS DRAFTED TO, UH, PROHIBIT, UH, THE PURCHASES OF EQUIPMENT, UH, IN EXCESS OF A THOUSAND DOLLARS.

ABSENT THE SHOWING, UH, BY THE ENTITY WANTING TO PURCHASE THAT THE EQUIPMENT TO BE IS NO LONGER WORKING.

THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION WHICH I THINK IS VALID IN THE WORK SESSION ABOUT SOME DEGREE OF FLEXIBILITY ON THAT QUESTION.

SO, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS RESOLUTION TO OUR MEETING ON 6 22 20 TO GIVE US A LITTLE MORE CONSIDERATION TIME TO CONSIDER WHAT WE SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T DO.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? TABLE? SECOND.

OKAY.

MS. CAROL'S SECOND ON THE TABLING.

ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NOW, VERSE 17.

UH, I'M MAKING A MOTION TO AMEND, I MAKE A MOTION TO CONSIDER THE, THIS RESOLUTION FOR OUR DISCUSSION AND DEBATE RIGHT NOW.

UH, UH, UNDER ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER IS JUST A PIECE OF PAPER THAT SITS ON, ON AN AGENDA.

SO MAKE A MOTION TO CONSIDER, WHICH WOULD OPEN IT UP TO DEBATE AND AMENDMENT.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THE MOTION TO CONSIDER? SECOND ON

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THE MOTION TO CONSIDER.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

OKAY.

NOW IT'S LEGITIMATELY BEFORE US.

UH, LET ME TAKE YOU TO THE SECOND RESOLVE.

I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THAT IN ITS ENTIRETY TO REMOVE IT AND REPLACE IT WITH, EXCUSE ME WHILE I TURN TO IT.

THE FOLLOWING RESOLVE IN ITS PLACE, EFFECTIVE 6 1 20.

THE TOWN OF HAMBURG SHALL NOT HIRE ANY ADDITIONAL PART-TIME EMPLOYEES WITHIN THE HAMBURG HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT FOR THE BALANCE OF THE CALENDAR YEAR 2020.

NOW, THAT IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION AND WE HAVE TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENT.

UH, AND THEN WE'LL DEBATE THE ENTIRE, UH, MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THE AMENDMENT? SECOND.

SECOND IS MR. CONLEY.

UH, ALL IN FAVOR OF AMENDING IT, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? NAY.

AYE.

NAY.

THERE'S A ONE NAY.

OKAY.

BETH FERRELL IS A NAY.

UH, THEREFORE THE AMENDED MOTION IS NOW IN FRONT OF US.

SO LET ME TURN YOU TO THAT AND WE'LL READ THE MOTION AND THEN WE CAN ENTERTAIN FIRST ANY QUESTIONS ON IT FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS OR DEPARTMENT HEADS.

SECOND.

WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMPER, LIKE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THROUGHOUT OUR STATE AND NATION, HAS SUFFERED SEVERE DECLINES IN REVENUE OWING TO COVID-19, THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC AND THE CONSEQUENT COLLAPSE OF OUR NATIONAL ECONOMY.

AND WHEREAS THE TOWN ACCOUNTING FIRM HAS ISSUED PREDICTIONS TO THE EFFECT THAT THE TOWN WILL SUFFER SEVERE LOSSES OF MORTGAGE TAX AND SALES TAX REVENUE OWING TO THE PANDEMIC, ALONG WITH SHARP DECLINES IN REVENUES GENERATED BY THE TOWN'S AND POSITIONS, DEPOSITION OF FEES RECESSIONS FINE, THAT MAY BE IMPOSED.

AND WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG IS A FUNDAMENTAL DUTY TO ADDRESS THE SEVERE ECONOMIC DOWNTURN THAT IMPACTS OUR COMMUNITY, RENDERING IT DIFFICULT FOR THOUSANDS OF OUR FELLOW RESIDENTS TO MEET FUNDAMENTAL LIVING EXPENSES NECESSARY TO SUSTAIN THEIR FAMILIES.

NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN OF HAMBURG HERE IN ADOPTS A PARTIAL HIRING FREEZE RETROACTIVE TO 6 1 20 AS IT RELATES TO THE HIRING OF ADDITIONAL PART-TIME LABORERS IN THE BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS DEPARTMENT, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A PART-TIME CLERK, MARGARET AVERY, START DATE 6 9 20 AT AN HOURLY RATE OF 1180 PER HOUR.

AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE HAMBURG, UH, THAT THE TOWN OF HAMBURG SHALL NOT HIRE ANY ADDITIONAL PART-TIME EMPLOYEES WITHIN THE HAMBURG HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT FOR THE BALANCE OF THE CALENDAR YEAR 2020 AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THERE SHALL BE NO HIRING OF ADDITIONAL FULL-TIME PERSONNEL IN ANY DEPARTMENT OF TOWN GOVERNMENT FOR A PERIOD OF 90 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF 6 21 20.

ABSENT EXIGENT AND EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCE, EXCUSE ME, ABSENT AND EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCE AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT PART-TIME EMPLOYEES EMPLOYED AT THE HAMBURG SENIOR COMMUNITY CENTER SHOULD ONLY BE PAID FOR THE DAYS, UH, ACTUALLY EMPLOYED FROM THE DATE OF 6 1 20 AS OPPOSED TO BEING PAID PART-TIME WAGES TO THE EXTENT OF 19 HOURS PER WEEK AND BE FURTHER RESOLVED THAT ALL PLAYGROUND PROGRAMS IN THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT FOR THE SUMMER OF 2020 ARE HEREBY CANCELED AND BE FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN'S DAY CAMP PROGRAM FOR THE SUMMER OF 2020 IS CANCELED AND REFUNDS, WHICH MAY BE DUE AND ONLY TWO PRE REGISTRANTS REFUNDED.

OKAY.

THAT'S THE MOTION, UH, AS AMENDED.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND.

SECOND.

OKAY.

NOW WE'RE ON THE QUESTION.

ANY, ANYTIME BOARD MEMBERS, FIRST OF ALL WISH TO OFFER SOME, UH, INSIGHT OR ANSWER QUESTIONS? UH, THE QUESTION SUPERVISOR, UH, I BELIEVE THAT THIS SHOULD BE TABLED.

AND HERE'S MY REASONING.

LAST WEEK.

YOU OUT A, UH, EMAIL TO DEPARTMENT HEADS TO CONTROL COSTS OR, YOU KNOW, TRY TO KEEP THINGS DOWN.

AND, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE THEM SOME TIME TO, UH, TO DO THAT.

IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE, YOU'RE TELLING 'EM TO DO IT AND THEN THE NEXT WEEK WE'RE JUST KIND OF WALKING OVER THE TOP OF 'EM.

SO, UH, THAT'S ONE REASON.

SOME OF

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THE THINGS IN HERE, I DO AGREE WITH THE, THE HIRING FREEZE, UH, THE PLAYGROUNDS AS I MENTIONED IN WORK SESSION.

AND WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY FIGURES.

UH, I KNOW YOU ARE PRIVY TO, UH, UH, THE FIGURES WITH THE ACCOUNTANT.

WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY OF THE, UH, FIGURES AND WE'RE GONNA BE GETTING ALL THAT INFORMATION AT OUR NEXT BOARD MEETING.

UH, I'D FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IF I HAD MORE INFORMATION TO VOTE YES ON THIS.

OKAY.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WANTED TO SPEAK ON THE QUESTION? I WANNA JUST TALK BRIEFLY IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I AGREE WITH A LOT OF WHAT MIKE JUST SAID, UH, IN TERMS OF WE WANNA HAVE SOME, SOME FLEXIBILITY.

WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, DO OUR BEST TO ALLOW OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS TO HAVE SOME CONTROL.

BUT I, I THINK WE'RE IN A SITUATION THAT IS REALLY JUST GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE TO BE, UH, AS A TOWN, YOU KNOW, TAKING THE LEAD AS, AS, AS THE BOARD IN, IN REALLY LETTING EVERYONE KNOW THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, UH, THE TAXPAYERS, THE EMPLOYEES, JUST HOW SERIOUS AND HOW FAST MOVING THIS FINANCIAL SITUATION IS.

UM, 'CAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE A PROJECTION OF AT LEAST 2 MILLION UP TO $2.6 MILLION DEFICIT, UH, WHICH IS A HUGE HIT FOR THE SIZE OF OUR BUDGET.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE OTHER STATES THAT HAVE GOTTEN THEIR INFORMATION THAT WE'RE STILL WAITING ON, IT GIVES US A LITTLE BIT OF AN IDEA OF WHAT WE MIGHT BE FACED WITH.

UH, JUST A FEW DAYS AGO, THE GOVERNOR OF NEW JERSEY WAS TALKING ABOUT THEIR 400,000 WORKERS.

THE POSSIBILITY AT THIS STAGE WITH THE FINANCES THEY'RE FACING, THAT THEY WILL HAVE TO CUT 200,000 OF THOSE BECAUSE OF A $10.1 BILLION, UH, PROJECTED DEFICIT.

SO, A, AS MUCH AS, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LOVE TO, YOU KNOW, KEEP SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS AND HAVE SOME OF THE, UM, EMPLOYEES THAT WE NEED AND THAT WE NORMALLY HAVE IN PART-TIME, YOU KNOW, SEASON THAT I KNOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF STRUGGLE TO, TO MAKE DO WITHOUT, I THINK THAT WE'RE IN SUCH A, A, A SITUATION THAT THIS ACTION IS REALLY JUST HOLDING THE LINE.

IT'S NOT EVEN CUTTING, WHICH IS REALLY AN INEVITABLE THING WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO DO.

UM, AND THAT THE TAXPAYERS REALLY EXPECT US TO TAKE THE LEAD AS SOON AS WE CAN, AS FAST AS WE CAN TO BE PROACTIVE.

AND, UH, I FEEL WE REALLY HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO, YOU KNOW, TAKE THIS APPROACH, UM, WITH, WITH WHAT WE KNOW AT THIS POINT.

OKAY.

SEAN? I, I AGREE WITH THE POINTS THAT, THAT YOU MADE.

UM, I GUESS MY CONCERN IS THAT, UM, AND AS MIKE SAID, MOST OF WHAT'S CRAFTED IN HERE, I, I AGREE WITH, BUT THERE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT I JUST STILL HAVE QUESTION ABOUT.

UM, AND, AND ONE HAD TO DO WITH THE TRANSFER OF THE FUNDS TO RETIREMENT COSTING.

I, I WASN'T SURE.

THAT'S GONE, THAT'S NOT THERE ANYMORE.

OKAY.

OH, THAT'S THE ONE THAT WAS, OKAY.

I, I'M SORRY.

I MISUNDERSTOOD.

I THOUGHT IT WAS THE NEXT ONE YOU WERE SAYING WAS GONE.

NO, THANK YOU.

UM, AND I GUESS THE ONLY OTHER CONCERN I HAVE THEN TOO, AS IT RELATES TO THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT AS THEIR LIAISON, UM, TED HAS EXPRESSED TO ME THAT HE'S IN THE PROCESS AND HAD PUT IN, UM, TO BE CONSIDERED AT THIS, UH, MEETING SOME ADJUSTMENTS THAT HE HAD TO TAKE CARE OF YOU.

HE HAS SOMEONE WHO WAS GOING, WHO WAS READY TO GO, YOU KNOW, SEASONAL PART-TIME THAT HE WAS TRYING TO RETURN A LABORER TO, UM, BEING, YOU KNOW, PART OF HIS WORKFORCE.

AND THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO BE IN THE OFFICE AS A, AS A CLERK, WHICH I THINK IS IMPORTANT.

WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE WORKING OUT OF THEIR, UM, JOB DESCRIPTION.

AND SO HE NEEDED TO TAKE CARE OF GETTING THAT OTHER INDIVIDUAL UP TO THE SEASONAL POSITION SO THAT THEY COULD TAKE CARE OF THE PHONE CALLS AND THEN HE COULD SWITCH.

SO I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT, THAT BY HAMPERING INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT HEADS TOO MUCH, THAT, THAT WE CREATE ANOTHER PROBLEM.

WELL, LET, LET ME, LET ME ADDRESS YOUR, YOUR CONCERN AND THEN I WANNA SPEAK ON THE QUESTION.

FIRST OF ALL, UH, THE PROMOTION OR THE EXPANSION OF THE PART-TIME CLERK IN THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT TO A PART-TIME SEASONAL EMPLOYEE IS NOT IMPAIRED BY THIS MOTION.

THAT THIS RESOLVED CLAUSE HAS BEEN EXTINGUISHED IN ITS PLACE, IS A FREEZE UPON THE HIRING OF NEW PART-TIME OR

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NEW LABORERS, EFFECTIVE 6 1 20, THAT'S THE EFFECTIVE DATE FOR THE FREEZE IN BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS AS WELL.

TED HAS THREE PERSONNEL, ALMOST 10% OF HIS TOTAL WORKFORCE DEVOTED TO CLERICAL AND OFFICE STAFF WORK.

SO QUITE FRANKLY, IT'LL ALMOST BE THREE FULL-TIMERS IF WE MOVE THE CURRENT GENTLEMAN, MR. JOYCE, FROM PART-TIME, UH, TO PART-TIME SEASONAL AND WITH NO IMPEDIMENT IN THIS MOTION TO DOING THAT.

OKAY, NOW LET ME ADDRESS BROADER QUESTIONS UNDER UNDER TOWN LAW SECTION 64 SUB ONE.

IT'S THE TOWN BOARD.

THE TOWN BOARD, NOT DEPARTMENT HEADS, BUT THE TOWN BOARD HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY TO CONTROL TOWN FINANCES.

WE HAVE THE GENERAL MANAGEMENT, MANAGERIAL RESPONSIBILITY AND CONTROL OF TOWN SPENDING, NOT IN BUDGET TIME, BUT DURING THE CALENDAR YEAR, WE'RE DEALING WITH PROBABLY THE MOST SIGNIFICANT ECONOMIC DOWNTURN SINCE THE GREAT DEPRESSION.

WE'RE ALSO DEALING WITH A PANDEMIC THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ERADICATED AND MAY IN FACT BE WITH US FOR MONTHS TO COME.

WE ARE GOING TO LOSE, ACCORDING TO STEFAN MALU, SOMEWHERE IN THE RANGE OF 25% OF OUR SALES TAX REVENUE, MORTGAGE TAX REVENUE, VLT, AIM FUNDING, FINES, FEES AND ASSESSMENTS HAVE NOT BEEN COLLECTED.

THE DEPARTMENT HEADS HAVE A SEPARATE AND DISTINCT FUNCTION THAT IS TO MANAGE THE DEPARTMENT TO DETERMINE HOW THINGS ARE BEING DISCHARGED IN AN EFFICIENT MANNER WITH THE RESOURCES THAT WE GIVE THEM.

WE GIVE THEM.

NOW, THE MORE WE CAN CUT BACK NOW ON THE OPERATING DEFICIT, THE LESS DRASTIC OUR ACTIONS WILL BE WHEN WE ADOPT A NEW BUDGET.

BECAUSE I CAN FORESEE THE ADOPTION OF A BUDGET WHEREBY WE'RE GOING TO BE ELIMINATING SOME FULL-TIME POSITIONS IN OUR MAJOR DEPARTMENTS AND EVEN IN OUR MINOR DEPARTMENTS, NONE OF US WILL GO UNSCATHED.

LET ME ASK YOU ALL A RHETORICAL QUESTION.

HOW IN THE WORLD DO WE GO TO THE THOUSANDS OF TAXPAYERS IN THIS COMMUNITY, MANY OF WHOM HAVE BEEN LAID OFF, MANY OF WHOM HAVE LOST SIGNIFICANT REVENUE, AND ARE FIGHTING TO PAY RENT OR MORTGAGES.

HOW DO YOU GO BACK TO THEM AND SAY, WE DON'T HAVE THE FORTITUDE TO CUT BACK ON PERSONNEL EXPENDITURES OR PROGRAM EXPENDITURES IN THE CRISIS IN 90 YEARS, AND WE'RE SORRY FOLKS.

TAKE IT ON THE CHIN AND PAY A, UH, A PROPERTY TAX INCREASE.

HOW IN GOOD FAITH DO WE DO THAT? SO I'M HUMBLY ASKING YOU ASKING NOT, UH, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO PUNISH ANYBODY.

WE'RE TRYING TO BE FAIR.

THE CHIEF OF POLICE IS COOPERATIVE.

HE BACKED OFF ON THE HIRING OF A CAPTAIN.

KARATE HAS BACKED OFF ON THE HIRING OF A FULL-TIME PERSON.

EVERYONE IS DOING THEIR BEST TO TRY AND HELP OUT.

SO QUITE FRANKLY, I THINK IT'S TIME FOR US TO PONY UP AND START NOW.

IT MAKES IT EASIER LATER ON IF WE HAVE THE COURAGE TO TAKE SOME TOUGH STEPS RIGHT NOW.

SO WE, WE'VE DEBATED THE QUESTION.

ANYONE ELSE? JIM? YES, THIS IS TED.

YEAH, GO AHEAD TED.

YOU KNOW, I MENTIONED, UH, APPROXIMATELY EIGHT WEEKS AGO THAT, UH, UH, THE BOARD, UH, SHOULD HAVE AT THAT TIME CONSIDERED FURLOUGHING EMPLOYEES.

MY VERY CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE FOR THE SAVINGS PER WEEK WAS WELL NORTH OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

I'M SURE SAM CAN ACTUALLY DEFINITIVELY DEFINE THE WEEKLY PAYROLL, UH, OVER THE, UH, PAST 10 WEEKS, UH, RELATIVE TO THE COVID.

AND AT THAT TIME, I HAD SAID, WE DO THIS NOW, WE'LL BE IN MUCH BETTER SHAPE AND HAVE TO AVOID, UH, THESE DRASTIC MEASURES THAT APPARENTLY NOW HAVE, UH, COME TO BEAR SO SOON.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT, I, I DO WANNA POINT OUT THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT IS NOT A PROGRAM.

UH, THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT IS AN ESSENTIAL SERVICE.

UH, THAT MEANS ESSENTIAL AS IN NECESSARY.

UH, WE ARE IN CHARGE OF HELPING TO ENSURE THE WELLBEING OF THE TRAVELING PUBLIC.

THE BASIC EXPECTATION FOR THOSE WHO PAY THE BILLS, THE TAXPAYERS, IS THAT FUNDAMENTALLY

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WE ANSWER THE PHONE HERE IN THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT IN THE WORK SESSION.

I ALLUDED TO ONE EXAMPLE, YOUR FRIEND, YOUR NEIGHBOR WHO LIVES ON COLUMBIA.

UH, THEY CALLED HERE A HALF DOZEN TIMES AND NO ONE WAS HERE.

AND WE ARE SHORT STAFFED.

UH, MAKE NO MISTAKE, AND AGAIN, NOT A PROGRAM.

WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS DELIVER WHAT OUR REASONABLE EXPECTATIONS FOR RESIDENTS, POTHOLES, BRUSH PIPING THAT HAS BEEN NOT BEEN ABLE TO BE ADDRESSED, UH, FOR A YEAR OR TWO.

AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, UH, WE GET THOUSANDS OF PHONE CALLS.

I'VE MENTIONED IT BEFORE.

UH, WE GET GREATER THAN 10,000 PHONE CALLS A YEAR, UM, MORE THAN ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT PROBABLY, I GUESS SAVED FOR THE POLICE.

BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR A FACT.

THE B AND G PHONE CALLS COME INTO THIS, THIS OFFICE AS WELL.

AND THE RATIO IS ABOUT 20 TO ONE.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF PHONE CALLS ARE RELATED TO HIGH RELATED HIGHWAY RELATED DEPARTMENT SERVICES.

AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE WORK SESSION DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS, THAT'S WHEN OUR WORKERS TAKE THEIR VACATION TIME.

AND, AND WHILE THEY ARE PAID A FAIR WAGE, UH, THEY CERTAINLY GET THEIR TIME OFF THAT THEY USE, UH, AND, AND NO ONE BEGRUDGES THEM FOR IT.

THEIR COMP TIME, THEIR VACATION TIME, AND THEY'VE EARNED IT, THEY GET IT, BUT THEY USE IT DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS, WHICH FUNDAMENTALLY HAMPERS AND CRIPPLES THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT TO DELIVER THE SERVICES DURING THIS SEASON, WHICH IS THE MOST BUSY SEASON, MORE BUSY EVEN THAN THE WINTER THIS TIME OF YEAR.

AND I HAD MENTIONED, UH, I HAD SENT AN EMAIL, UM, BEFORE THE WORK SESSION AT APPROXIMATELY FIVE O'CLOCK TO THE BOARD NOTING THAT THE HIGHWAY LAW, UH, ONE 40 SECTION FOUR, UH, ALLOWS FOR, UH, MY, UH, DEPARTMENT TO DETERMINE WHO WE ARE HIRING, THE IF IN FACT THE MONEY'S BEEN ALLOCATED.

AND THAT IS THE CASE, UH, YEAR OVER YEAR.

THE PART-TIME BUDGET FOR THIS DEPARTMENT, 19 TO PRESENT YEAR WAS ALREADY REDUCED BY $20,000.

UM, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE MAKING A LITTLE BIT OVER MINIMUM WAGE THAT BACKFILL THOSE THAT ARE ON VACATION TO ALLOW US TO DO THE WORK WE NEED TO DO.

WE TRACK ALL THE PHONE CALLS HERE.

I GET ALL THE DISGRUNTLED PHONE CALLS, I ANSWER THE PHONE AS A MATTER OF FACT, AND I LIKE ANSWERING THE PHONE.

UM, BUT FRANKLY, IT IS A TASK THAT REQUIRES MORE HELP AND WE NEED THAT HELP IN THIS DEPARTMENT, AND WE NEED THE PART-TIMERS IN ORDER TO DELIVER THESE BASIC SERVICES.

WITHOUT IT, UH, IT'LL BE A GREAT DETRIMENT TO THE TAXPAYERS.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

UH, I JUST WANNA POINT OUT TO YOU, TED, UH, YOU MADE THAT SUGGESTION ABOUT, UH, LAYING OFF ALL OF OUR FULL-TIME WORKERS, UH, BACK ABOUT 12 WEEKS AGO.

AND IT WAS POINTED OUT TO YOU THAT WE'RE HAMSTRUNG BY THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT.

WE CAN'T LAY OFF FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES UNTIL WE'VE LAID OFF ALL PART-TIME EMPLOYEES IN THE BLUE COLLAR, UH, BARGAINING UNIT.

THAT, SO I JUST WANNA CORRECT THAT.

WELL, THAT'S CORRECT, JIM, BUT I DON'T EVEN THINK REALLY MUCH CONSIDERATION WAS GIVEN TO THAT.

AND CERTAINLY NO UNION CONTRACT CAN PREVENT THE TOWN FROM DOING WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE TAXPAYER.

THAT'S EXACT.

WELL, THAT MAY WELL BE TRUE, BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN, UH, THE UNION CONTRACT PRECLUDED US FROM DOING THAT.

AND HERE'S WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO ON MARCH THE 16TH WHEN WE WERE ALL TOGETHER AT THE MEETING, THAT SET UPON THE CLOSURE OF HAMBURG TOWN GOVERNMENT, IN EFFECT, UH, TO REMOTE SERVICES ONLY.

WE AGREED THAT BECAUSE OF THE SEVERE AND THE PRESSURE IT WOULD HAVE ON FAMILIES THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, THAT WE WOULD CARRY OUR PEOPLE.

AND THAT MOST OTHER TOWNS DID THE SAME THING THAT WE DID.

IT WAS THE HUMANE AND DECENT THING TO DO, AND A NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES HAVE SENT OVER THANK YOU CARDS FOR OUR CONSIDERATION.

OKAY.

HAVING SAID ALL OF THAT, HAVE YOU HEARD LAST THOUGHT? ONE, ONE LAST THOUGHT, PLEASE.

UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE CONTENTIOUS.

I UNDER THIS IS HARD.

I, AND, AND I, UH, I, LIKE I SAID, I AGREE WITH A LOT OF IT JUST CONCERNED, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WE'RE IN, IN BUSINESS TO PROVIDE SERVICES AND, UH, I DON'T WANNA SEE OUR SERVICES GET HURT THAT BAD.

IT, IT'S TOUGH.

THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.

SO, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT BANGING ON ANYBODY.

I'M JUST TRYING TO GIVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.

THAT'S ALL.

OKAY.

I REALIZE IT'S TOUGH.

THE SOONER WE SWALLOW THE TOUGH

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MEDICINE, THE EASIER IT'S GONNA BE FOR THE 2021 BUDGET.

ALRIGHT, ON THE, UH, QUESTION, WE'VE HEARD IT ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION AS AMENDED, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

NAY.

MR. PETRIE'S ON THE NAY FOUR TO ONE, THE MOTION IS ADOPTED.

LET ME TURN TO LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT THAT SEAN, UH, SEAN CONLEY CAN ADDRESS.

UM, AND IT FOLLOWS A MEMO MARTY DEKE SENT OVER TO, UH, TO SEAN AND TO KATHY REPINSKI.

AND TO ME, THERE WAS A MISTAKE IN THE PERSONAL ACTION FORM FOR RECREATION EMPLOYEES.

UH, MARTY HAD MISTAKENLY CHARACTERIZED THE, UH, PAF FORM AS BEING EMPLOYEES WHO WOULD BE HIRED, UH, AT THE DAY CAMP.

BUT IN POINT OF FACT, UH, WHEN WE DECIDED THAT WE'D RECOMMEND THAT THE DAY CAMP ELIMINATED, UH, WE FAILED TO REALIZE THAT THE PAF THAT MARTY HAD SENT OVER WAS NOT FOR THE DAYCARE, UH, DAY CAMP, UH, STAFF MEMBERS, BUT FOR, UH, ALL OF THE OTHER, UH, EMPLOYEES, PART-TIME EMPLOYEES WHO ARE AT THE BOAT LAUNCH, TAKING TEMPERATURES IN OUR SEVEN BUILDINGS.

YOU KNOW, THE MONITORS, UH, SO MR. CONLEY HAS A, AN AMENDED MOTION.

WE, WE TOOK MARTY'S MOTION OFF THE TABLE BECAUSE IT WAS MISTAKENLY THOUGHT THAT THE PAF REFERRED TO THE, UH, THE PART-TIMERS AT, AT THE DAY.

CAMP SEAN, UH, DO YOU HAVE YOUR AMENDED MOTION THERE? YES, I DO.

OKAY.

RESOLVED THE TOWN APPROVE THE PERSONNEL ACTION FOR STAFF OF THE DEPARTMENT OF YOUTH AND SENIOR SERVICES.

AS LISTED.

AS LISTED ON THE ATTACHED PAF INDIVIDUALS LISTED WILL BE ASSIGNED TO CURRENT OPERATIONS SUCH AS THE 18 MILE GOLF COURSE AND HAMBURG BEACH.

I'LL SECOND THAT ON THE QUESTION.

ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

NOW, UH, I HAVE TO GIVE YOU THE FINAL ITEM OF BUSINESS, WHICH IS THE, UH, TRANSACTION REPORT THAT SAMANTHA PREPARES, UH, PERMIT ME.

THIS IS A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE TOWN BOARD AUDIT OF CASH DISBURSEMENTS, UH, AS OF 6 8 20.

UM, OPERATING FUND BALANCE FOR THIS DATE IS $903 NINE NINE, I'M SORRY, NINE 3050 $8 AND 10 CENTS.

THE TOTAL CASH DISBURSEMENTS, WHICH HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED FOR AUDIT TOTAL $970,149 AND 59 CENTS.

I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RECEIVE THIS REPORT AND FILE IT ACCORDINGLY.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NOW LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, UH, IF YOU DON'T MIND, WE'LL GIVE INTO, UH, REPORTS FROM OUR, OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS.

HOW ABOUT, UH, BRIDGET LAVELL, WE'RE ANXIOUS TO HEAR FROM YOU REGARDING THE COURTS.

BRIDGET, WITH US, WELL, MAYBE DON.

OKAY.

UH, LET'S GO TO THE NEXT PERSON ON MY CHEAT SHEET HERE.

SAMANTHA TARIN, , UH, FINANCE, SAM, ANYTHING? UM, THIS IS KIM FROM THE FINANCE OFFICE AND WE HAVE NOTHING TO REPORT AT THIS POINT.

OKAY.

UH, HOW ABOUT ALYSSA? ALYSSA, ARE YOU WITH US? YEAH, I HAVE NOTHING TO REPORT.

OKAY.

UH, AND JENNIFER, YOU GAVE A, A, A DETAILED REPORT AT THE WORK SESSION.

JENNIFER ROBERTSON OF IT.

ANYTHING ELSE? JEN NOTHING ELSE TO REPORT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ROGER GIBSON, CODE ENFORCEMENT.

ANYTHING ELSE, SIR? YES.

HELLO, JIM? HI, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, SIR.

UH, I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT UH, THINGS ARE WORKING OUT PRETTY WELL WITH THE, UM, LIMITED TOWN, UH, HALL HOURS, THE NINE TO ONE, UH, PM WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SCHEDULE, UH, AT LEAST FOUR PEOPLE AN HOUR TO COME IN AND OBTAIN BUILDING PERMITS, AND IT'S BEEN REALLY WORKING OUT PRETTY WELL AND ACTUALLY FREEING UP THE TIME AFTER ONE O'CLOCK, UH, THAT THE INSPECTORS CAN GET OUT ON THE ROAD AND, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, DO THEIR PAPERWORK AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

OTHER THAN THAT, I'VE GOT NOTHING ELSE TO REPORT.

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THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UH, I KNOW THAT CAMMI, GERALD, I DUNNO ABOUT TOM LARDO IN ENGINEERING.

UH, ARE YOU FOLKS STILL WITH US? CAMMY OR TOM, OR BOTH? YEAH, I'M STILL HERE.

OKAY.

THOMAS, ANYTHING YOU WANNA TELL US, EVERYBODY? UH, NOPE.

NOTHING TO REPORT.

I APPRECIATE IT.

ALRIGHT, PAT, UH, UH, B AND G, ANYTHING FOR YOU, SIR? FROM YOU SIR? SUPERVISOR KAMI HERE.

CAN I ADD TO THAT? OH, CAM, I'M SORRY.

I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.

THAT'S, SORRY.

UH, I JUST WANNA MENTION THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH THE GOLF COURSE ON, UH, THEIR IRRIGATION POND.

AND I SPOKE WITH THE DEC ON FRIDAY AND THEY PLAN TO COME OUT TO THE SITE.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE AIMING FOR THURSDAY.

UH, I'M JUST WAITING FOR A CONFIRMATION ON THE TIME SO THAT I COULD MEET THE DEC REPRESENTATIVE OUT THERE AND DISCUSS SOME OPTIONS.

OKAY.

AND THE OTHER ITEM WAS THE SIDEWALK, THE STORM DAMAGE OVER NEAR HOKES PARKING LOT IN THE CLOCK TOWER.

OH YEAH.

OKAY.

SO TOM ACTUALLY MET, UH, A LOCAL CONCRETE CONTRACTOR OUT THERE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT REPAIRING THE SIDEWALK AND RECEIVED A CONTACT ABOUT, UM, GETTING THE RIP WRAP STONE, UH, FOR THAT SHORELINE.

UM, MY SUGGESTION IS TO GET SOME BUDGETARY PRICINGS FROM THOSE GENTLEMEN AND GET AN IDEA OF WHAT THE REPAIR COST IS GONNA BE, UM, SO THE TOWN CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT THE NEXT MOVE IS.

YEAH, THAT'S A FEMA PROJECT TOO.

UH, KAMI, AS YOU KNOW, UH, WE HAVE GOT TO, YEAH, AND, AND ALSO IT MAY BE A REAL DANGEROUS SITUATION.

UM, I KNOW WE HAVE THAT, UH, THAT, UH, ORANGE FENCING, BUT, UH, BUT BEFORE THE SIDEWALK OVER THERE NEAR THE CLOCK TOWER, IF YOU WEIGH 140 POUNDS LIKE ME, UH, YOU CAN EASILY GO, YOU CAN EASILY GO THROUGH THE WALK.

SO ANYWAY, ANYWAY.

ALRIGHT, WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT, YEAH, SO WE, WE ARE WAITING, WE ARE WAITING FOR FEMA TO ADVISE US ON WHEN THEY CAN COME OUT AND DO AN INSPECTION.

THEY HAVE BEEN PUT ON HOLD WITH COVID, SO WE'RE WAITING, UM, ON MULTIPLE ITEMS FOR THEM TO, TO LET US KNOW THAT THEY CAN COME PHYSICALLY AFTER THE TOWN AND DO THEIR INSPECTIONS.

OTHERWISE, WE'VE PROVIDED THEM PHOTOS AND MEASUREMENTS AND DETAILS.

UM, SO THERE'S NOTHING MORE TO BE DONE ON THEIR END UNTIL THEY ARE AVAILABLE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR GOOD WORK FOR THE CAN.

CAN, CAN I, CAN I ASK CAMIE? THIS IS SEAN CROWD.

IF I COULD JUST JUMP IN.

GO AHEAD.

UM, SO THIS IS SEAN CROWDY FOR KAMIE.

UM, I, I THINK, UH, THE VERY POTENT THING THAT YOU HAVE DONE AND AND CONTINUE TO DO IS GET THOSE CONTRACTORS TO GET US, UM, KINDA LIKE A, A SCOPE OF THE PROJECT AND WHAT IT'S GONNA COST AS WELL AS THE ENGINEERING COSTS, AND WE'LL PUSH THOSE UP.

THE LAST WORD I GOT FROM FEMA THIS MORNING WAS THAT THEY'RE HOLDING OFF ON DOING THESE, UH, INSPECTIONS UNTIL THEIR OFFICES IS OPEN, WHICH IS ABOUT TWO WEEKS.

SO I THINK IN THE, UM, SPIRIT OF KEEP MOVING FORWARD, UH, SO THAT WE DO GET THIS OPEN BACK UP AND HOPES CAN, UM, ENJOY THE BENEFITS OF THEIR PARKING SPACES THAT, UM, WE'VE BEEN KIND OF, UH, OVERTAKEN BECAUSE OF, UM, KEEPING THE PUBLIC BACK.

I THINK IT'S PRUDENT TO JUST KEEP PRESSING FORWARD AND, UM, AND, UH, KEEP WORKING.

AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, THEY'RE GONNA GET BACK TO ME THIS WEEK WITH, UM, VISUAL OR, UH, VIRTUAL, UH, SITE INSPECTIONS, WHICH WE HAVE SIX TO DO.

SO, UM, THAT'S GONNA BE ONE OF THEM THAT'S, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF PROJECT SCOPE OVERVIEW, WHICH YOU'VE BEEN GREAT IN GIVING ME ALL, ALL OF THOSE DETAILS.

SO I THINK KEEP MOVING FORWARD AND, UM, WE'LL BE IN GOOD SHAPE.

THANKS GABBY, FOR YOUR GOOD WORK.

SEAN, NOW THAT WE GOT YOU IN HERE, BUDDY, HOW ABOUT A REPORT FROM YOU? ANYTHING ADD, UH, OTHER THAN JUST KEEP PRESSING, JUST, UH, HOPING TO START REALIZING SOME, UH, INCOME FROM THE REIMBURSEMENT FROM FEMA FOR ALL THE COMPLETED PROJECTS.

AND I JUST THANK ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, GOOD ABOUT KEEPING TO THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FOOT TO THE PEDAL AND MOVING FORWARD SO WE CAN GET THESE WRAPPED UP AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT, UH, DISASTER.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S IT.

DISPATCH IS JUST MOVING ALONG, SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, PAT RYAN AT B AND G.

HOW ABOUT YOU SIR? JIM, I HAVE NOTHING NEW TO REPORT.

HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK TAMMY TO KEEP ME INVOLVED WITH THE GOLF COURSE IF, IF THEY ARE MEETING THURSDAY, I'D LIKE TO GO OUT THERE AS WELL.

GOOD IDEA.

YOU GOT IT? OKAY.

THANK YOU, KAMI.

THANK YOU PAT.

UH, HOW ABOUT CHRIS HALL COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT? WHAT'S GOING ON? CHRIS, ARE YOU CHRIS THERE? ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON.

HOW JENNIFER IN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

JEN, ARE YOU WITH US? HI.

YES, I AM.

HI.

HOW IS EVERYONE DOING? HOW ARE YOU DOING? UM, WE'VE BEEN STEADY.

UM, WE'VE HAD CONTINUED INCLUDING THE CASES THAT WE'VE HAD.

WE'VE HAD STEADY INQUIRIES VIA EMAIL, UH, PHONE CALLS FROM PAST CLIENTS.

WE HAVE

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HAD AN INFLUX, A NOTICEABLE INFLUX OF CALLS FROM FAMILY MEMBERS, NEIGHBORS AND SUCH THAT WE'RE CALLING FOR INFORMATION FOR, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE, THEIR NEIGHBORS OR LOVED ONES AND SUCH.

BUT, UM, WE'VE JUST BEEN VERY STEADY WITH, WITH ALL THE INQUIRIES.

SO IT'S GOOD THAT PEOPLE ARE REACHING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, WHETHER IT BE THE CLIENTS DIRECTLY OR, YOU KNOW, CONCERNED CITIZENS OR LOVED ONES.

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR GOOD WORK.

UH, REALLY TERRIFIC.

JENNIFER, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, MARTY.

MARTY, HOW ABOUT YOU, SIR? I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN VERY BUSY.

MARTY DEKE AND RECREATION.

YES.

HELLO JIM AND THE REST OF THE BOARD.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, UH, JUST, UM, WANT TO THANK, UH, B AND G UH, FOR THEIR HELP IN GETTING THE BEACH OPEN.

UM, WE HAD A PRETTY NICE WEEKEND AND, UM, SALES FOR BOTH, UM, UH, BEACH PARKING PERMITS AND THE BOAT LAUNCHES ARE GOING VERY WELL.

WE'RE SELLING 'EM AT A NUMBER OF LOCATIONS, INCLUDING THE CLERK'S OFFICE.

WE SOLD SOME AT THE FARMER'S MARKET.

WE HAVE OUR LITTLE WINDOW AT THE, UH, PARK ITSELF AND IN OUR OWN OFFICE.

BUT, UM, SALES ARE, ARE REALLY GOING WELL.

UM, I WANT TO THANK THE CHIEF BECAUSE JOE O'BRIEN IS THE PERFECT GUY TO BE DOWN AT THE BEACH AS OUR SECURITY OFFICER, SO THAT'S GONNA WORK OUT GREAT FOR US.

UM, THE GOLF COURSE, UH, TEE TIMES ARE FILLING UP.

WE TALKED IN THE WORK SESSION ABOUT A COMPLAINT FROM A SEASONED PASS HOLDER BECAUSE THOSE WHO ARE GOLFING ARE FILLING THE TEE TIMES.

SO WE EXPECT TO EXPAND, UH, OUR TEE TIMES, UH, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA, UH, INCREASE OUR HOURS OF OPERATION AND WE'RE GONNA LESSEN THE INTERVALS BETWEEN FOURSOMES GOING OUT.

SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL RESOLVE THAT MATTER.

BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS PEOPLE ARE FILLING UP THE TEE TIMES.

AND MY LAST NOTE IS, UM, A THANK YOU TO THE DONNY THI FOUNDATION WHO JUST DONATED $6,500 FOR OUR ADAPTIVE SPORTS AND RECREATION PROGRAM.

THEY ALWAYS MAKE AN ANNUAL, UH, DONATION TO THAT PROGRAM.

DONNY IS, UM, A DECEASED, UH, FORMER STAFF MEMBER WHOSE FAMILY AND FRIENDS CREATED A FOUNDATION TO BENEFIT OUR ADAPTIVE PROGRAM.

SO A BIG SHOUT OUT TO THE TYRE FOUNDATION AND FAMILY AND FRIENDS.

THANK YOU MARTY.

THANK FOR ALL YOU DO.

UH, YOU YOU'VE BEEN IN THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS.

JUST TERRIFIC.

UH, CHIEF BRA, HOW ABOUT YOU, SIR? HI, HOW'S EVERYBODY? ALRIGHT, HOW ABOUT YOU? NOT BAD, NOT BAD.

UM, MARTY, YOU MAY WANNA WAIT TO THANK ME UNTIL THE END OF THE SEASON FOR JOE.

WE'LL SEE HOW THAT PLAYS OUT.

, .

BUT I, I, I DID WANT TO, I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE OVERWHELMING SUPPORT WE RECEIVED FROM THE COMMUNITY DURING THIS REALLY DIFFICULT TIME.

UH, WHETHER IT WAS THROUGH PHONE CALLS OR FACEBOOK COMMENTS OR LETTERS.

IT WAS REALLY ENCOURAGING AND I'D, I'D LIKE TO BELIEVE THAT IT'S A TESTAMENT TO THE PROFESSIONALISM OF OUR OFFICERS AND I'M REALLY GRATEFUL FOR IT.

AND THAT'S REALLY ALL.

I JUST, UH, WANTED TO SAY.

THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR HARD WORK CHIEF, IF WE BEEN THE LAST, THE LAST TWO OR THREE WEEKS.

THANK YOU.

UH, MY DEAR BUDDY, THE, UH, HAMBURG TOWN CLERK, WHAT'S NEW, KATHY, I, WITH THEIR LONG DOG LICENSES AND BUILDING PERMITS, I'VE BEEN, UM, IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH THE US DEPARTMENT OF STATE FOR PASSPORTS TO SEE WHERE THEY STAND.

THEY LAID OFF A LOT OF PEOPLE, UM, DURING THIS COVID, UM, CRISIS OPTION TO SEE WHEN THEY START WRAPPING UP BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY FAR BEHIND PRESS PASSPORTS THAT THEY ALREADY HAD.

SO ONCE THEY GET MOVING, WE WILL START, UM, TAKING PASSPORT APPLICATIONS AGAIN.

BUT I HAVEN'T WANTED TO DO THAT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT PEOPLE'S, IE HUNG UP IN THE US DEPARTMENT OF STATE FOR, YOU KNOW, 12, 14 WEEKS.

SO, UM, I'LL KEEP EVERYBODY POSTED.

I'VE BEEN PUTTING MESSAGES ON MY FACEBOOK PAGE TO LET YOU KNOW WHEN WE'LL START DOING THAT.

THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH.

KATHY, UH, DAN STANFORD.

ARE YOU HERE, DAN? WE GOTTA GET HIM PLUGGED IN TO THE MEETING.

YES, I'M, I'M HERE.

I, OH, THERE YOU'RE, YEAH, I JUST GOTTA FIGURE OUT MY SMARTPHONE.

ALL RIGHT.

YES.

UM, I JUST WANT TO THANK, UH, YOUR, YES, I WANT TO THANK YOUR IT DEPARTMENT AND, UH, DAWN AND LYNN TO HELPING US GET THROUGH, UH, GRIEVANCE DAY, UH, OUR FINAL INFORMALS.

I'LL CALL THOSE, UH, JUNE 19TH, AND WE'LL HAVE YOU ROLL UP BY THE 1ST OF JULY.

AND, UH, UH, OTHER

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THAN THAT, UH, MOVING FORWARD, HEY, DAN, UH, UH, DID, UH, DID MY ASSISTANT TARA TOUCH BASES WITH YOU? I KNOW SHE WAS OUT TO, SHE WAS TALKING TO ROGER GIBSON ABOUT YOU AND I AND ROGER GETTING TOGETHER FOR A MEETING ON WEDNESDAY OR THURSDAY THIS WEEK? WEDNESDAY IS WHAT I HAVE ON MY CALENDAR.

OKAY, GOOD.

WELL, WE'LL GO OVER, UH, WE'LL GO OVER SOME ISSUES AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT ARTICLE SEVENS AND, AND, UH, WE GOTTA GET YOU, UH, WE GOTTA GET THE TOWN OPENED UP SO WE CAN TAKE YOU AROUND ROOM TO ROOM AND INTRODUCE YOU TO EVERYBODY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UH, HOW ABOUT TED CASEY AND HIGHWAY TED, ANY MORE TO TELL US? YEP.

WELL, WE'RE WORKING DILIGENTLY ON THE OVERALL COMPREHENSIVE PAVING PLAN, UH, TO ADDRESS THE APPROXIMATE 90 MILES OF ROAD RATED AS POOR.

SO WE ARE, UH, TARGETING TO, UH, PRESENT THAT TO THE, UH, PUBLIC AND THE BOARD, UM, AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING.

THERE IS A LOT OF WORK INVOLVED, UH, IN DOING THIS.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S, UH, FRANKLY NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE AND IT'S NO SMALL UNDERTAKING.

UM, IN ADDITION, UM, JUST GOT NOTICED FROM ERIE COUNTY.

UH, THEY'RE DOING A HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE COLLECTION EVENT.

UH, IT'S POSTED ON MY FACEBOOK ACCOUNT.

UH, I'VE SENT IT TO JENNY TO POST ON THE HIGHWAY PAGE ON THE TOWN, UH, SITE AS WELL.

AND THAT'S FOR ITEMS SUCH AS PESTICIDES, OIL BASED PAINTS, PAINT THINNER, GASOLINE THERMOMETERS, UH, OLD EXTINGUISHERS, UH, PROPANE, UH, CAMPING SIZE CYLINDERS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

AND IT'S BY APPOINTMENT ONLY.

AND, UH, UH, THEY WILL BE FOLLOWING A, UH, COVID TYPE PROTOCOL, UH, FOR THAT COLLECTION.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PHONE CALLS, UH, REGARDING THIS ITEM.

AND SO I THINK IT'LL BE GOOD NEWS TO, UH, THE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, HOLDING ON TO SOME WASTE THAT THEY WOULD, UH, RATHER GET RID OF.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, KATE.

UH, TRAFFIC SAFETY.

HOW ARE YOU, KATE? OH, I'M OKAY, JIM.

HOW ARE YOU? NO, .

UH, ALRIGHT.

WELL, UH, WE GOTTA TALK TO KATE.

UH, WE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAYBE CONSIDER LADIES AND GENTLEMEN WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO WITH OUR, UH, UH, OUR, OUR TRAFFIC SAFETY SCHOOL.

WE'RE NOT GETTING TOO MANY CUSTOMERS ANYMORE.

EVERYTHING IS BEING DONE ONLINE NOW.

WE'RE IN A POINT NOW WHERE WE MAY HAVE TO BE THINKING ABOUT SAVING MONEY IN ALL KINDS OF DIRECTIONS.

SO I'LL TALK TO KATE ABOUT THAT AS WE GO FORWARD.

OKAY.

WALTER, RUTH AND LEGAL.

HOW ABOUT YOU, SIR? UH, GOOD, JIM.

UH, WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS ON OUR SALE OF THE PLEASANT AVENUE PROPERTY BY THE TRAIN.

UH, WE HAD SOME HICCUPS, BUT I THINK THE TRAIN IS BEING REMOVED HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE NEXT FEW DAYS, AND THEN WE CAN HOPEFULLY SCHEDULE THAT CLOSING.

I, I I BELIEVE IT WHEN I SEE IT.

YEAH, I KNOW.

ALRIGHT.

I LOVE THE KIDS.

THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.

OKAY.

AND, AND MARK, THANK YOU TO YOU TWO.

UH, NOW LET'S SEE WHO'S NEXT GUYS, DO I GET EVERYBODY? AM I MISSING ANYONE? OH, YEAH, SARAH, I'M PLANNING.

SARAH, I'M SORRY.

ARE YOU THERE? YOU'VE HAD TO WAIT FOR ALL THIS TIME TO, TO SAY SOMETHING, SARAH? NO.

SO I DON'T HEAR FROM SARAH EITHER, SO I GUESS THAT WOULD BE IT.

UH, WE NOW TURN IT OVER TO COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC, UH, I'M SURE THE PUBLIC, BUT, UH, WE'LL HAVE TO AWAIT, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO DO THAT, UH, ON THE SIXTH OF, UH, JULY, PERHAPS.

UH, OKAY.

UH, ANY, ANYTHING ELSE? LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

IS THERE A MOTION TO BE MADE OUT THERE BY SOMEONE? MOTION TO ADJOURN.

SO MOVE MR. CONLEY ON THE MOTION.

WHO'S ON THE SECOND? I, I'LL SECOND IT.

OKAY.

MR. PEAKS ON THE SECOND.

UH, ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THE MOTION IS CARRIED.

THANKS VERY MUCH.

GOODNIGHT EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU.