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OH, SEAN, DID YOU WANNA SEE THAT CALCULATION? UM, YEAH.
BUT YEAH, WHERE, UM, INFORMATION AND THEN WE GET THE TAX LIMIT ADJUSTED FOR TRANSFERS.
WE, WE DO GET CARRY OVER AS WELL.
UM, SO THEN WE WERE ACTUALLY HERE COMPARED TO WHAT WAS ALLOWABLE FOR US.
REALLY? BECAUSE IF YOU BUDGET.
UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CONVENE THE WORK SESSION OF THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD FOR 11 16 20 TO ORDER.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? SECOND, MS. FERRELL, THANK YOU.
WE HAVE KAREN HOPE PARTICIPATING WITH US REMOTELY, UH, NOTWITHSTANDING THAT YOUR VOTE COUNTS REMOTELY AS, UH, IT WOULD IN PERSON.
UM, I GUESS WE'LL GO THROUGH THE AGENDA AND THEN WE WILL HAVE SOME TIME TO DISCUSS, UH, THE RUSH OF COVID-19 CASES AND THE EFFECT IT HAS UPON US.
AND ALSO TO THE DEVASTATION THAT OCCURRED TO HOOVER BEACH LAST NIGHT AND EARLY THIS MORNING.
UH, WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:00 PM TONIGHT, WHICH IS, UH, CONCERNING THE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENTS EXEMPTION LAW.
WE HAD THAT AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR RETAIL VACANCIES, AND AS A RESULT OF THAT COMMITTEE'S WORK, ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD WAS TO ENACT A LOCAL LAW WHICH WOULD INCENTIVIZE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS TO INDUSTRIAL OR RETAIL SPACE, IF INDEED PROPERTY OWNERS MADE, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS IN EXCESS OF 10,000.
THAT'S NOT, THAT'S DISTINCTLY DIFFERENT FROM ORDINARY AND NECESSARY MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS.
NOW, IF YOU DO THAT TO THE EX AND YOU MAKE THE APPLICATION WITHIN A YEAR TO THE TOWN ASSESSOR, AND YOU RECEIVE A 50% REDUCTION IN THE INCREASE OF ASSESSED VALUATION IN YEAR ONE, AND IT DECREASES BY 5%, UH, YEAR 2, 3, 4, ALL THE WAY TO THE 10TH YEAR, THIS IS EXACTLY THE SAME THING AS ERIE COUNTY HAS IN PLACE FOR ERIE COUNTY, UH, TAXES.
AND WE HAVE, UH, 14 PROPERTIES IN HAMBURG THAT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE ERIE COUNTY EXEMPTION IF WE ADOPT THIS LOCAL LAW.
UH, AT OUR DECEMBER 7TH MEETING, WE WILL BE, UH, UH, ASSIGNED ERIE COUNTY WITH THE EXACT VERBIAGE, THE EXACT TERMS AND CONDITIONS.
WE CAN INVITE THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO PARTICIPATE, AND THEY DON'T NEED TO.
THEY CAN PARTICIPATE BY ADOPTING A RESOLUTION SO THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER COULD GET THIS BENEFIT, UH, FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ON SCHOOL, COUNTY, AND TOWN TAXES.
SO IN ANY EVENT, THERE'S A PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT TONIGHT AT SEVEN.
AND THEN, DEPENDING UPON WHAT YOU DECIDE AFTER THE HEARING, WE CAN PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE 17TH, FOR THE SEVENTH, RATHER, FOR AN UP OR DOWN VOTE.
UH, KAREN, UH, NEXT IS THE, UH, LEMME JUST SEE HERE.
AND KAREN, AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT'S FOR, UH, THE
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OCTOBER 26TH WORK SESSION AND THE, UH, THE REGULAR MEETING.THE NEXT ITEM IS RESULTS FROM A, UH, A FOLLOW UP.
WE HAD GOTTEN TOGETHER TO VOTE TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT ON THE SPECIAL EVENTS LOCAL LAW.
UNFORTUNATELY, IT DIDN'T GET PUBLISHED IN THE LOCAL PAPER HOW THAT EXACTLY HAPPENED.
BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING UNLESS YOU GIVE THE PUBLIC AMPLE NOTICE OF WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT, SO THEY CAN SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST IT.
SO THIS RESOLUTION IS THE SAME RESOLUTION THAT WAS CONSIDERED, UH, NOVEMBER THE SECOND, AND IT IS NOW CALLING FOR A PUBLIC HEARING TO BE HAD ON DECEMBER THE SEVENTH AT 7:00 PM SO THAT'S THAT ONE.
WE HAVE NEWTON ABBOTT, BIG TREE AND LAKE SHORE RESOLUTIONS SIX, SEVEN, AND EIGHT.
THESE ARE FOR APPOINTMENTS BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE FIRE COMPANIES FOR MEMBERS NEW ME, NEW MEMBERSHIP.
UH, NUMBER NINE IS THE HEALTH AND SAFETY MANUAL.
UM, KATE HILLMAN HAD INDICATED TO ME THAT IN 1991, A MANUAL FOR HEALTH AND SAFETY FOR TOWN HALL EMPLOYEES WAS ADOPTED.
AND THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT TO IT, A COMPREHENSIVE AMENDMENT, UH, FOR IN, UH, 2007.
BUT FOR SOME REASON, I DON'T KNOW WHY, UH, IT NEVER GOT ADOPTED.
SO, IN ANY EVENT, WHAT SHE'S PROPOSING HERE IS THAT WE UPDATE THE, THE MANUAL, UH, FOR HEALTH AND SAFETY, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 29 YEARS OF AGE.
AND O-S-E-A-O-C-A, UH, HAD PROVIDED, HAS PROVIDED, UH, INSTRUCTIONS TO OUR EMPLOYEES REGARDING THEIR JOB DUTIES AND, AND THE MAIN MAINTENANCE OF A SAFE WORK ENVI HEALTHY AND SAFE WORK ENVIRONMENT.
THEY HAVE PUT A PROPOSAL TOGETHER TO HER FOR THE REDRAFTING OF A COMPREHENSIVE BOOKLET AT A COST OF $790.
NOW, IF YOU VOTE TO AUTHORIZE THIS, THEN THE COMPANY WOULD GO FORWARD, PRODUCE A CONTRACT, WE WOULD SIGN IT, YOU'D HAVE TO AUTHORIZE THE CONTRACT, WOULD SIGN IT, AND THEN OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS INTO THE NEW YEAR, THEY WOULD BEGIN TO PUT TOGETHER A COMPREHENSIVE, UH, BOOK FOR HEALTH AND SAFETY REGULATIONS FOR EACH DEPARTMENT AND EACH EMPLOYEE.
AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO ADOPT IT.
ANY COMMENTS ON THAT ONE? ALL RIGHT.
UM, NOW THE, UH, THE NEXT ITEM IS KAREN, THAT'S, THIS IS COMING UP WITH YOU.
UH, THERE IS A REQUEST, UH, FOR TWO NEW AND UNUSED FORD FUSIONS SEDANS FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UH, THIS WILL BE USED BY DETECTIVES, I THINK, AND THE FUNDING COMES FROM THE ASSET FORFEITURE ACCOUNT AND ALSO FROM INSURANCE PROCEEDS THAT WE RECEIVE FOR A DAMAGED, UH, VEHICLE.
SO, UH, NOTHING FROM THE OPERATING BUDGET OR THE 2021 BUDGET FOR THIS.
NUMBER 11 IS, UM, PREMISED UPON, AND MAYBE, KAREN, THE BEST THING, I JUST MAKE THIS SUGGESTION, IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO TABLE NUMBER 11 UNTIL WE GET THROUGH WITH NUMBER 14, THE ADOPTION OF THE BUDGET.
THIS RESOLUTION SAYS THE BOARD WILL APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF FIVE NEW AND UNUSED 2021 DODGE CHARGER CHARGERS, UH, UH, PURCHASED FROM GENESEE VALLEY CHRYSLER, THE LOAN BIDDER
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FOR THE PRICE OF 28,340 PER UNIT FOR A GRAND TOTAL OF 141,700.THAT'S WHAT THE AMENDED BUDGET CALLS FOR, RIGHT? WE HAVEN'T ADOPTED THE AMENDED BUDGET YET, BUT THIS RESOLUTION COMES BEFORE WE ADOPT THE BUDGET.
THEORETICALLY, WE'RE GONNA, IF WE DON'T ADOPT THE BUDGET, THEN WE CAN'T MAKE THIS PURCHASE.
SO WE MIGHT WANT TO TABLE IT IF IT'S ALL RIGHT WITH YOU, KAREN, TILL THE END OF THE AGENDA.
YOU OKAY WITH THAT, KAREN? SOUNDS GOOD.
EVERYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT? SURE.
SO THE NEXT ONE, IT COMES FROM THE 2020 BUDGET, SO THAT'S OKAY.
THIS IS A DODGE DURANGO, UH, COST IS $30,000.
THIS IS GENESEE VALLEY CHRYSLER DODGE JEEP.
ALSO, FUNDING WILL BE AVAILABLE IN THE 2020 BUDGET.
ACCOUNT NUMBER IS STATED ASSET FORFEITURE FUNDS VEHICLE TRADE AGAINST THIS PURCHASE STILL BEING EVALUATED AND WILL BE AWARDED AT A LATER DATE WITH TOWN BOARD APPROVAL.
UM, MARTY'S GOT SOME TERMINATIONS HERE, HUH? YES.
SO THESE ARE ALL GOLF COURSE, UH, TERMINATIONS.
AND THEN THE LAST THING, LADIES, OR NOT THE LAST THING, BUT THE SECOND LAST THING, I GUESS, IS THE, UH, IS THE BUDGET.
UM, THIS IS HOW WE DID IT LAST YEAR AND THE YEAR BEFORE.
IT SAYS, RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG DOES HEREBY ADOPT THE TOWN OF HAMBURG 2021.
BUDGET IS PREVIOUSLY FILED BY THE TOWN SUPERVISOR AND KNOWN AS THE SUPERVISOR'S BUDGET, SUBJECT TO THE AMENDMENTS IS CONTAINED BELOW.
WE'VE GOT 16 AMENDMENTS, UH, WHEN YOU ADD 'EM UP.
AND THE, UH, WE ARE INCREASING SPENDING, UH, WITH, WITH RESPECT TO THESE AMENDMENTS FROM $5,370,808 TO $5,781,990, AN INCREASE OF $411,182, UH, OVER THE SUPERVISOR'S PROPOSED BUDGET.
NOW, THE RATIONALE FOR THIS INCREASE IS PRIMARILY BASED, AS YOU ALL KNOW, ON THE QUESTION ABOUT THE APPROPRIATED FUND BALANCE IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET.
I RECOMMENDED THAT WE APPROPRIATE 1,286,000 OF THE FUND BALANCE TO ADOPT THE BUDGET.
HOWEVER, AFTER FURTHER DISCUSSIONS AND CONSIDERATION, WE ALL THOUGHT THAT IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO REDUCE THAT BY ALMOST 400,000, SO AS TO MINIMIZE THE SHOCK EFFECT THAT WOULD OCCUR NEXT YEAR.
THEREFORE, UH, THE AMENDED BUDGET, UH, REDUCES, UH, INTO 895,000, A REDUCTION OF 391.
SO THAT ACCOUNTS FOR A LARGE PART OF THE DIFFERENTIAL.
ANY, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, THE ACCURACY OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO, OR THE WISDOM, THE WISDOM OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO? ANYBODY? I DON'T THINK WE KICKED IT AROUND ENOUGH.
THE ONLY, YOU KNOW, QUESTION I HAVE, I'M FINE WITH THIS, BUT I DID HAVE A QUESTION, AND, AND I WAS, AGAIN, BEING MY FIRST BUDGET, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET MY HANDS ON HOW IT WORKS AND MM-HMM
I WAS A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE, UH, GOING OVER THE CAP, THE, THE CAP THAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, OUT THERE FROM NEW YORK STATE, UH, THINKING THAT WE WERE GONNA BE RIGHT UP AGAINST THAT.
UM, HOWEVER, LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, AND I REACHED OUT TO SAM OVER THE WEEKEND, IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, WE'RE OVER 1.2 MILLION, UM, UNDERNEATH THAT CAP.
UM, SO KNOWING THAT, I THINK IT MIGHT BE PRUDENT TO, WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT, JUST THE ONE LINE ITEM OF THE APPROPRIATED FUND BALANCE, POSSIBLY CONSIDER, UH, NOT TAKING OUT QUITE AS MUCH, UH, SINCE WE HAVE THIS WINDOW WHERE WE'RE UNDER THE CAP, WE KNOW THERE'S SO MUCH UNCERTAINTY COMING, YOU KNOW, TO NEXT YEAR.
UH, SOMETHING I'D AT LEAST THROW OUT THERE.
WHAT ARE YOU SUGGESTING? I, I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND.
WELL, POSSIBLY INSTEAD OF, UM, TAKING 895,000 AS AN EXAMPLE, YEAH.
WELL, JUST GIVING US A BIGGER BUFFER, BUT STILL KEEPING THE TAX RATE, YOU KNOW, UH, AROUND THE INFLATION RATE OR, BUT WE NEED, UM, JUST WITH THE FEAR THAT,
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YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BIG CONCERNS THAT WE HEARD FROM THE DEPARTMENTS WAS PERSONNEL.AND IF WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO USE FUND BALANCES, IT'S INEVITABLE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CUT PERSONNEL, UH, WOULD BE THE LIKELY SCENARIO IN FUTURE YEARS, IF, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A BAD CIRCUMSTANCE BASED ON CO COVID.
WELL, IF, IF I CAN MAKE, UH, THE TAX CAP YOU BANK A LOT OF THE YEARS WITH THAT, AND, AND TELL ME IF I'M WRONG ON THIS, BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY SAY IT'S A 2% TAX CAP.
BUT IF YOU DON'T USE IT OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS, YOU GET MORE FOR YOUR TAX CAP IN A WAY.
THERE'S, I KNOW THERE'S A CARRYOVER.
YEAH, THERE IS A CALCULATION WITH THE STATE.
THE OTHER ITEM THAT I THINK AT LEAST CAUSES SOME CONFUSION AS WELL, OR AT LEAST MIGHT FOR THE PUBLIC, IS THE FACT THAT WHEN WE REFER TO THE TAX RATE INCREASE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE A BDA AND DB FUNDS.
HOWEVER, UM, WE HAVE A LOT MORE FUNDS THAN THAT.
UM, IT INCLUDES ALL OF OUR SPECIAL DISTRICTS EXCEPT MM-HMM
UM, ONE OF OUR SEWER DISTRICTS, UM, WHICH IS EXCLUDED FROM THE CALCULATION BECAUSE THEY HAVE THEIR OWN GOVERNING BOARD.
BUT BECAUSE OF THAT, WE REALLY GET TO TAKE 2% OF ALL OF THE FUNDS MM-HMM
UM, SO BECAUSE OF THAT, WE HAVE BUILT UP A LITTLE BIT OF CARRYOVER IN PAST YEARS.
UM, I DON'T HAVE THAT PAGE OF THIS CALCULATION OFF HAND, BUT I CAN ALWAYS GO UP AND GET IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A LIMIT TO THE CARRY FORWARD, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN DOING THIS, I CAN FIND THAT OUT BEFORE THE A THE, THE REAL BOOK REGULARLY.
WE GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER ON IT, IN MY OPINION.
UH, I WOULD GO WITH WHERE WE'RE AT NOW.
AND, AND WE GOTTA HOPE THAT THINGS TURN AROUND FOR NEXT YEAR.
THE BIG THING THAT KILLED US IS THE SALES, YOU KNOW, THE SALES TAX, STATE AID AND EVERYTHING.
AND, AND TO ME, I'M, I'M GONNA TAKE A FLYER AND HOPE THAT NEXT YEAR THAT STARTS COMING BACK TO US.
WE'RE NOT DEAD IN THE WATER NEXT YEAR AS FAR AS BUDGET WISE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OPTIONS THERE, YOU KNOW, BUT WE THOUGHT NIPPING IT A LITTLE BIT IN THE BUD THIS YEAR, YOU KNOW, AND HOPE FOR THE BEST NEXT YEAR.
I THINK THAT'S THE WAY TO GO, IN MY OPINION.
I, I THINK THAT, UH, WE'VE MADE A SIGNIFICANT, UH, WE'VE MADE A SIGNIFICANT GESTURE TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE, AND THIS YEAR HAS BEEN PARTICULARLY TOUGH.
UH, PEOPLE ARE REALLY UP AGAINST IT.
UM, AND, UH, I JUST FELT THAT ALL ALONG, THAT THE ONLY THING WE COULD DO TO EASE THEIR BURDEN WAS TO MINIMIZE OUR INTRUSION INTO THEIR CHECKING ACCOUNTS.
WE CANNOT, UH, OBVIOUSLY COME UP WITH SPENDING PROGRAMS OR RELIEF, AND WE'RE NOT THE STATE OR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
AND I, AND I'M HOPING THAT, UH, UH, WE GET A BETTER BREAK NEXT YEAR ON VIDEO LOTTERY TERMINAL PROCEEDS THAT THIS WAS A ONE TIME ONLY AIM FUNDING.
I HOPE WE BUDGETED, YOU KNOW, FOR 80% AS OPPOSED TO A HUNDRED PERCENT.
SO I'M HOPING, UH, SO, AND WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME DEBATING THIS, UH, LAST WEEK.
SO IF YOU'RE ALL, IF YOU CAN LIVE WITH IT, SEAN, EVERYBODY'S COMFORTABLE, I CAN TOO.
YEAH, I'M, I'M COMPLETELY COMFORTABLE.
I JUST WANT TO THROW THAT OUT JUST BECAUSE IT'S FIRST TIME AROUND.
I WANNA MAKE, WANNA SEE HOW IT GOES, BUT, UH, I LIKE YOUR EXPLANATION AND SAM, UH, IS COMFORTABLE.
SO I'M, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH IT.
AND I DID, UH, POSE THAT QUESTION TO ONE OF OUR OUTSIDE CONSULTANTS.
SO IF WHILE WE'RE SITTING HERE, I DO GET AN ANSWER, I'LL LET YOU KNOW IF IT'S A ONE-TO-ONE CARRY FORWARD.
UM, SO, UH, WHAT IS GOING ON HERE? HI, THIS IS THE TOWN BOARD MEETING.
HI, HOW ARE YOU? BOARD MEETING? I'M LOOKING FOR THE D WHAT? PARK TICKETS.
OH, YOU GOTTA GO UPSTAIRS TO THE TOP OF THESE STAIRS.
STAIRS, AND THEN FOLLOW THE QUARTER ALL THE WAY DOWN.
YOU'LL SEE THE POLICE OFFICERS.
UH, NOW, UH, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE COVID SITUATION, UH, AND, UH, WE HAD THE VACATION TIME.
YEAH, WE GOTTA TALK ABOUT THAT.
I FORGOT, UH, VACATION TIME CARRYOVER.
THE POLICE APPROACHED ME, UH, THE COMMAND OFFICERS AND THE PBA, UH, THE BLUE, THE, UH, BLUE COLLAR UNIONS FOR THE GOVERNED HIGHWAY.
AND, UH, B AND G APPROACHED ME ALSO.
NOW, THEIR ARGUMENT IS, LOOK, SHAW, WE COULDN'T TAKE OUR VACATION TIME THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF THE COVID AND ALL THE, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
AND WE'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO USE IT BY THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR.
MY INITIAL RESPONSE WAS, USE IT OR LOSE IT.
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THE POLICE WANTED, UH, BOTH UNIONS WANTED ME TO CONSIDER RECOMMENDING TO YOU THAT INSTEAD OF LETTING THEM USE IT, WE PAY 'EM FOR THE UNUSED DI SAID, BUDGET WISE, WE CAN'T SWING THAT.SO I SUGGESTED IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM THAT WE CARRY OVER A WEEK, UH, OF UNUSED VACATION TIME INTO THE NEW YEAR FROM JANUARY ONE TO JUNE ONE.
I DIDN'T WANT 'EM TO PIGGYBACK THAT WEEK ON TOP OF THEIR REGULAR TWO OR THREE WEEKS DURING THE SUMMER, SO AS TO, UH, TO BE HOME LIKE, LIKE A KID BEING HOME FROM COLLEGE.
UH, I WOULD THEN HAVE TO, IF YOU, THE, THE BLUE COLLAR FOLKS AGREED, THE POLICE UNIONS SAID, OKAY, SHAW, WE'LL GO ALONG WITH A WEEK.
I SAID, WELL, I'LL THROW IT TO THE BOARD.
IF THEY AUTHORIZE ME, THEN WE'LL ENTER INTO MEMORANDUMS OF AGREEMENTS, MOAS WITH EACH UNION, VERY SHORT LITTLE AGREEMENTS, NO PREJUDICE TO THE FUTURE.
IN OTHER WORDS, THIS IS A ONE-OFF DEAL.
NO, YOU CAN'T USE IT AS A BARGAINING UNIT PRECEDENT, UH, OR A PAST PRACTICE, WHICH WOULD
SO, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU THINK, KAREN, OR, UH, UH, PLEASE AND GENTLEMEN, YOU TELL ME.
I'M SORRY, JIM, CAN I JUST ASK A QUESTION REGARD AGAIN? SURE, SURE.
UM, EACH DEPARTMENT MAINTAINS THEIR OWN, UM, VACATION AND PERSONAL TIME OFF BALANCES.
SO WOULD THIS BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE DEPARTMENT HEAD AND THE EMPLOYEE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY USE THAT TIME WITHIN THE, THE TIME ALLOWED? YES.
OTHERWISE IT FALLS OFF THE BOOKS.
I, I'D WANNA, I WANNA BE ABLE TO MONITOR IT THOUGH, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.
I, I WOULD LET THE DEPARTMENT HEAD, UH, UTILIZE IT WITH HIS OR HER EMPLOYEES WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT, BUT WE WOULD E OUR PERSONAL DIRECTOR, WOULD MONITOR IT TO MAKE SURE IT WAS OCCURRING AND THAT WE WEREN'T PIGGYBACKING PAST JUNE THE FIRST MM-HMM
NOW, I ALSO THOUGHT IN FAIRNESS, IF WE'RE GONNA DO THIS FOR THE UNIONS, WE SHOULD CONSIDER DOING IT FOR THE MANAGERIAL CONFIDENTIAL EMPLOYEES WHO ARE NON-UNION EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE WEREN'T ABLE TO EXERCISE THEIR VACATION TIME.
UH, I FELT THAT, UH, THEY SHOULD BE TREATED IN THE SAME WAY, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE THESE FOLKS DIDN'T GET A PAY RAISE IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.
SO, IF THAT'S THE IDEA, IF YOU GUYS THINK IT'S GOOD, GREAT.
ALRIGHT, IF, UH, WE'RE ALL DONE WITH THE AGENDA, I HAD A LITTLE SOMETHING I CAN BRING TO THE BOARD'S, UH, ATTENTION BEFORE WE GO ON.
SO WE HAD A DISCUSSION AT THE LAST MEETING IN REGARDS TO THE OLD POLICE STATION, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT BACK AREA.
SO LAST WEEK I WENT AND MET WITH, UM, IT, THE IDA, CHRIS HALL, THE CHAMBER.
THE ONLY ONE I DIDN'T GET TO MEET IN PERSON IS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
UH, BUT I DID GET SOME EMAILS FROM BETH WITH SOME OF THE, UH, WELL STICKING POINTS, WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS, I GUESS SHOULD REPORT.
SO I HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THESE DEPARTMENTS NEED FOR SPACE, UM, WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE.
SO GOING FORWARD, UH, I BELIEVE WE WOULD HAVE TO GO FOR AN RFP TO PUT IT OUT THERE TO HAVE SOMEONE DESIGN THIS.
UH, IS THE BOARD, DOES THE BOARD WANT ME TO GO FORWARD WITH IT? WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? I THINK GO AHEAD, JOHN.
OH, WE WERE JUST, I MEAN, WE WERE AT THAT POINT STILL WAITING TO SEE WHICH MONEY.
WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES AND, UM, I THINK WE'VE HAD A COUPLE CONVERSATIONS IN THE LAST WEEK.
SO IT WAS REALLY THE RFP WAS WAITING UNTIL IT WAS IDENTIFIED BECAUSE WE HAD CDBG FUNDS, WE HAD THE MONEY FROM SEAN RYAN'S OFFICE, AND THEN WE HAD THE AMOUNT THAT'S GOING TO BE, UH, BONDED.
AND THAT DOES HAVE TO BE, I THINK I'VE SPOKEN PREVIOUSLY THE FACT THAT IT HAS TO BE COORDINATED BECAUSE THERE ARE, UM, WITH D THERE ARE CERTAIN REGULATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW.
AND THEN THERE, AS WE KNOW, VERY STRINGENT ABOUT THAT AND HOW IT, HOW IT UNFOLDS.
SO WE STILL HAVE TO CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THAT.
AND THAT'S WHY IT HAD, YOU KNOW, BEEN INVOLVED BY GETTING TO THAT POINT.
UM, WHEN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO, TO, TO DO THE RFP, UM, I THINK WE STILL NEED TO JUST HAVE THAT FINAL CONVERSATION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AS FAR AS WHICH PARTS OF THE PROJECT ARE BE CO UH, GOING TO BE COVERED BY WHICH FUNDING SOURCES.
NOW, BETH, WHEN THE APPLICATION WAS DONE FOR ASSEMBLYMAN RYAN'S MONEY MM-HMM
THAT WAS SPECIFIC TO THAT AREA BACK THERE, AM I CORRECT PRIMARILY FOR THE RESTROOMS? FOR THE RESTROOMS? YEAH.
IT HAD, THERE WAS SOME FLEXIBILITY THAT IT, THE RESTROOMS OR THAT BACK AREA.
AND THAT'S WHY THIS CONVERSATION'S IMPORTANT.
I KNOW IN TALKING WITH MARK MALKI THIS WEEK, UM, WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY, BUT WE NEED TO REALLY
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BE VERY DEFINITIVE ON WHAT WE'RE GOING TO USE WHAT FOR.AND THAT'S WHY THAT RP HAD NOT PROCEEDED YET AT THAT POINT.
AND SOME OF THESE OTHER CONVERSATIONS, BECAUSE MARK WAS STILL WORKING THROUGH SOME OF THE PROCEDURAL ISSUES MM-HMM
WITH, UM, UH, DESTINY, ET CETERA WITH THAT.
SO DOES MARK CONCERN RIGHT NOW? NO, I THINK, UM, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE CONVERSATIONS OVER THE LAST WEEK.
I KNOW I'D THROWN OUT AN EMAIL FOR CHRIS UI AND HIM TO HAVE A CONVERSATION, JUST THAT, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AND WE DESIGNATE THAT.
I, I THINK WHAT WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA LOOK AT IS MAKING SURE THAT WE ISOLATE, UM, WE REALLY LOOK AT THIS AS THREE SEPARATE PROJECTS.
LOOK AT THE THREE SEPARATE FUNDING SOURCES SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES.
UM, ONE SCENARIO WOULD LOOK THAT WE WOULD USE THAT SEAN RYAN MONEY FOR THE BATHROOMS SO WE DON'T CO-MINGLE IT ALL.
AND THEN WE WOULD USE ANOTHER FOR THE BACK AREA.
UM, AND, AND WHICH ONE USES DIAZ MONEY? THAT SEAN RYAN.
SO, SO I THINK THAT'S WHY THAT CONVERSATION THAT HOPEFULLY THIS WEEK HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
I JUST DON'T SEE HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT THE BACK AREA BECAUSE THAT PART IS, IS SEPARATE, UH, BECAUSE IT WASN'T NECESSARILY, IT WAS KIND OF ALL AT THE TIME BEING TALKED ABOUT TOGETHER.
SO WE DO NEED TO SEPARATE IT OUT.
SO BE THAT AS IT MAY, THEN I KIND OF HAVE THE INFORMATION HERE MM-HMM
SO IF YOU, UH, IF YOU FIND SOMETHING OUT AND WE GET EVERYTHING SET UP, I CAN HAVE, UH, AN RFP PUT TOGETHER AND WE CAN KIND OF GO FROM THERE.
SO I THINK AT THIS POINT, LIKE THE RFP CAN BE CREATED IF EVERYONE IS ON THE SAME PAGE.
AND THEN IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, IT'S AN ACCOUNTING MECHANISM TO KEEP THE PROJECT SEPARATE.
SO I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY THE PROCESS OF MA LIKE GETTING THAT RFP TOGETHER COULDN'T BE DONE RIGHT NOW.
I JUST THINK WE JUST, THAT'S WHY WE HAD HOPED TO TALK THIS WEEK, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE ON THE SAME PAGE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS GOING SO THAT YOU KNOW, WHAT'S IN THE RFP DIFFERENT AREAS.
WHAT DO WE, WHAT DO WE WANT THE RFP TO DO? THIS IS JUST FOR THE BACK AREA FOR DESIGNING IT FOR DESIGN.
AND THEN WHAT ABOUT THE REMEDIATION AS WELL? WELL, THAT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE, RIGHT? THAT'S A SEPARATE THING.
AND THAT WAS SOMETHING ELSE I WAS GONNA GET ON TOO.
BUT THIS IS JUST BASICALLY, UH, FOR THE BACK AREA, NOTHING TO DO WITH THE, WITH THE HANDICAP.
AND THAT'S WHY IF WE GET THE RFP TOGETHER AND PUT IT OUT, AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, COMPANIES GET INVOLVED AND WE PICK AND GO FROM THERE, THAT MONEY, I BELIEVE CAN BE ROLLED INTO WHEN WE TAKE OUT THE NOTE TO DO THE PROJECT, THEN THAT WOULD GET REPAID OUT OF THAT.
UM, I BELIEVE THERE'S SOME OPTIONS WITH THE CURRENT DIFFERENT AVENUES OF MONEY THAT WE HAVE, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH THIS COSTS.
I, I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH THIS COSTS.
SO THERE'S NO HARM IN GETTING THAT INFORMATION, PUTTING THE RFP OUT THERE, THAT WAY WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
AND THEN DEPENDING ON THE TIMEFRAME, UM, WE OBVIOUSLY, JUST BECAUSE WE GET THE RFPS BACK, THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE GOING TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT THAT DAY.
SO IT'S REALLY JUST, IT GETS US THAT INFORMATION TO THEN DETERMINE THE NEXT STEP OF WHERE THAT MONEY WOULD COME FROM.
SO WHAT ARE THE CONSIDERATIONS WHEN WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS PREVIOUSLY? IS THAT JUST AS WE DID WITH THE BATHROOMS, WE WANT TO IN THE DESIGN, UM, THAT WAS REALLY WHAT DROVE A LOT OF THIS YEAH.
WAS ADDRESSING THE AADA A ISSUES THROUGHOUT TOWN HALL.
SO WE, UM, UTILIZED PREVIOUSLY THE ARCHITECT WHO, UM, YOU KNOW, SPECIALIZES IN THIS.
AND, AND THAT'S WHAT THAT LENS, RIGHT.
SO WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE AS WE DO THIS, THAT, THAT WE CONTINUE TO RIGHT.
IT'S LIKE YOU WOULD LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T JUST AWARD IT TO HIM, YOU KNOW? WELL, EXACTLY.
RIGHT? HE WOULD, HE WOULD BE, UH, DEFINITELY GET INVOLVED IN THAT.
BUT, UH, BUT ANYWAY, THAT, THAT WAS THE THOUGHT GOING FORWARD.
SO, UH, SO WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO DO? WE HAVE TO PREPARE A RESOLUTION.
WE'RE SUPPOSED TO, IF WE'RE GONNA DO AN RFP, IT'S GOTTA BE PURSUANT TO A BOARD RESOLUTION.
SO WE CAN DO IT ON THE DECEMBER 7TH MEETING.
SO WANT ME TO GET THAT PUT TOGETHER? YEAH, WHY NOT? WHY NOT? SO THEN THE SECOND PART PART WOULD BE IS, UM, THE OLD JAIL CELLS, WHICH IS THE, THE STEEL BARS, UH, B AND G CAN TAKE THEM OUT.
AND THEY CAN SCRAP 'EM AND, YOU KNOW, GET SOME MONEY FOR THE TOWN.
SO I WOULD SAY TO THE SUPERVISOR, YOU KNOW, YOU WANNA DIRECT, UH, B AND G YEAH, THAT'S FINE.
WHEN THEY HAVE TIME TO GET THAT DONE AND, UH, GET THIS PUT TOGETHER, LEMME MAKE A NOTE TO PUT THAT ON THEIR TO-DO LIST.
I DO HAVE STUFF IN ONE OF THE JAIL CELLS.
IT HAS TO BE BEFORE QUESTIONS.
DO YOU HAVE POSTED? I HAVE, YEAH, I HAVE STORAGE IN THERE.
WERE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ABOUT THE MOVE, UM, FOR ANY OF THAT DEPARTMENT? NO.
EVERYBODY'S KIND OF BEEN, YOU KNOW, ANTICIPATING IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME, TALKED ABOUT THE BIGGEST ISSUES THAT WE NEED IS EVERYBODY NEEDS STORAGE.
THAT IS A MONSTER ISSUE FOR EVERY
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DEPARTMENT OVER THERE.UM, THEY ALL NEED A CONFERENCE ROOM, BUT I THINK IF WE HAD ONE GOOD CONFERENCE ROOM, EVERYBODY CAN MAKE THAT WORK.
SO I KIND OF HAVE, UH, HOW MANY OFFICES EACH PART WOULD NEED.
UM, YOU KNOW, SOME SPECIFICS LIKE THAT.
AND I THINK THAT WE, UH, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER GETS THE RF, WHOEVER GETS THE, UH, CONTRACT, WE GIVE 'EM A LIST, LOOK AT, UH, WE NEED THIS FOR, YOU KNOW, HERE YOU GO, HERE'S WHAT WE NEED.
CAN YOU FIT IT INTO THAT SPACE AND MAKE IT WORK? SURE.
AND IF THEY CAN THEY DESIGN IT AND GO FROM HERE.
IF THEY SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU'RE TRYING TO PUT TOO MUCH IN THERE, OR YOU, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER.
ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT IS IN INCORPORATING IN THE USE OF THAT SPACE WAS IN THE, UM, THE CONFERENCE AREA.
HAVING IT, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO BE USED FOR OTHER TRAINING PURPOSES THAT WE FORESEE COMING DOWN THE ROAD, HAVING IT BE TECH, TECH SMART AND READY TO GO.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT CAN AFFORD US OR GIVE US THE ADVANTAGE OF BEING ABLE TO DO GOING FORWARD.
BETH? UM, ON THAT NOTE, UM, THIS PROBABLY HASN'T BEEN BROUGHT UP TOO MUCH, BUT IF IT IS MOVING TO THE NEW SPACE, THEN THE IDEA WAS THAT THE CONFERENCE ROOM, IT, WE USED TO HAVE A SPARE CONFERENCE ROOM IN THE FINANCE OFFICE THAT THAT COULD BE TURNED INTO LIKE A LEARN LIKE TRAININGS COULD BE DONE THERE AS WELL AS LIKE CHUCK COULD BE OUT OF THAT OFFICE.
WE WOULD HAVE, THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER SPACE AS WELL.
UM, AS LONG AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PROJECT, I GUESS, WHERE DO WE STAND AS FAR AS, UM, AN RFP OR GETTING QUOTES FOR THE REMEDIATION? BECAUSE I'M, I GUESS I FEEL LIKE AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN THE QUOTES COME IN FOR THE CONTRACTOR, UH, ANOTHER PIECE OF THIS PUZZLE THAT WE'RE WE DISCUSSED KIND OF HAPPENING FIRST WAS HAVING THE REMEDIATION WORK DONE.
I KNOW THAT, UH, IN THE BACK, THE VCT, I THINK IT WAS, UH, ABOUT 10,000, I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT IT WAS.
AND WHAT, I THINK WHAT WE LEFT IT OFF AS IS WE WOULD FIND A, FIND THAT FROM A BUDGET SOMEWHERE, WE WOULD FIND THAT FROM A BUDGET SOURCE AND TAKE CARE OF THAT.
AS FAR AS FOR, UH, THE BATHROOMS, THAT AREA THERE THAT DIDN'T COME IN YET.
I DON'T THINK THAT WE DUNNO INFORMATION, CHRIS.
CHRIS IS HANDLING THAT PORTION, I GUESS AS FAR AS OUR PURCHASING POLICY GOES.
UM, THAT WAS WHY I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT AN RFP.
WELL, ISN'T THAT, WOULDN'T THAT RFP BE ABOUT? THAT'S A SEPARATE DISTINCT ONE.
WOULDN'T THAT BE JUST A BIT PREMATURE AT THIS POINT? UM, I GUESS, I MEAN, I DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW THIS PROCESS WORKS.
DO, DO YOU THINK WE SH I MEAN I, NO, I'M JUST SUGGESTING AND ADDS A THOUGHT.
YOU MIGHT HAVE A POINT IS, ISN'T IT, IF IT'S OVER 20,000, THE PROJECT IN TOTAL, THAT PORT, LIKE FOR THE REMEDIATION WORK? WELL, NO, BUT THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED ONE AND THE SAME BECAUSE THAT'S RIGHT.
THE PROJECT, THEN IT WOULD BE INCORPORATED INTO THE WHOLE THING.
MAYBE SO THAT, SO I GUESS I'M JUST THINKING IF WE'RE GONNA GET THE RFPS FOR, YOU KNOW, ONE PART OF IT, I'M THINKING WHY WOULDN'T WE ALSO FOR TRY TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT AS WELL.
SO YOU WANT PUT OUT A REQUEST FOR THE REMOVALS THEN? OR DO WE KNOW WHAT WE HAVE TO REMOVE AND HOW MUCH IS INVOLVED? I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS IN THE REPORT FOR, I KNOW FOR THE BACK AREA AND I'M JUST TALKING THE BACK AREA.
WELL, I KNOW, BUT I MEAN, IF WE'RE GONNA DO IT FOR THE BACK AREA, WE CONSIDER OTHER AREAS WHERE, WHERE THERE MAY BE ASBESTOS ACCUMULATION AND DO IT ALL AT ONCE, THEN THAT GOES INTO THAT PROJECT.
I MEAN, I, I JUST, I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE.
I THINK THAT WELL, AND THAT'S WHY WE GOT THE FULL REPORT.
THAT'S WHY WE, I MEAN THAT'S HOW THIS HAS EVOLVED.
THAT WHEN IT STARTED THERE, THEN THE THOUGHT WAS PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT, WELL, IF WE'RE GONNA MOVE THIS HERE, THEN WE MIGHT WANNA MOVE THIS HERE.
AND THAT'S WHEN WE NEEDED TO TAKE THE STEP BACK AND REALLY KNOW WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT TOWN.
UH, HOW WIDE AS FAR AS THE ASBESTOS ABATE NEEDS.
YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MIGHT BE AN IDEA IS WHEN CHRIS GETS HIS INFORMATION IN.
'CAUSE HE, HE'S WORKING ON, HE TOLD ME THE OTHER DAY WHEN HE GETS THAT IN, WE'LL KIND OF HAVE A ROUGH IDEA AND THEN MAYBE WE COULD TIE IT ALL TOGETHER AND PUT IT OUT THAT WAY.
I THINK THEY WERE HOPING TO HAVE SOMETHING TOMORROW.
I'M JUST THINKING THE MORE COST DATA THAT WE HAVE AS YOU GUYS GO INTO MAKING THE DECISION, ONCE THE RFPS GO OUT ABOUT LIKE AN ENGINEERING FIRM FOR THIS PROJECT, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO HAVE ALL OF THOSE COSTS OUTLINED.
AND WE DO HAVE THAT REPORT, WHICH TELLS US EXACTLY WHERE THE PROBLEMS ARE.
SO I WOULD THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE REALLY USEFUL.
WELL, YOU KNOW, WHAT IF, UH, IF CHRIS, UH, LET YOU KNOW THAT HE, HE GOT THE WORK OR GOT IT.
WHATEVER WE, WE'LL, WE'LL DISCUSS, I'LL FORWARD IT TO EVERYONE DISCUSS BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING.
GOT, WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANNA KICK AROUND HERE, FOLKS? I HAVE FEW MINOR THINGS.
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THE FIRST IS THE, UM, I MET WITH A RESIDENT IN BEFORD, UM, ABOUT A YEAR AGO IN TERMS OF THE, HIS IDEA OF A POSSIBLE DOG PARK.UM, AND SO I ARRANGED A MEETING WITH, UM, MARTY DEKE AND THE, THE RESIDENT, AND I THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD POSSIBILITY, UM, AT THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION BECAUSE IT'S A BIG PARK.
UM, YOU KNOW, HE'S DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH AND, AND, UH, MICHELLE FROM OUR OFFICE DID A LITTLE RESEARCH ON DOG PARKS.
IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE GOT THE, THE ROOM THERE.
AND, UM, THE CONCEPT IS WE, WE ALREADY HAVE ONE DOG PARK, BUT IT'S AT THE NIKE CENTER.
THIS WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, DISTINCTLY, UH, FURTHER AWAY IN THE BLAZE CELL AREA.
AND IF SUCCESSFUL, YOU KNOW, MY THOUGHT WOULD BE POSSIBLY WE COULD LOOK AT A, A PARK IN THE LAKEVIEW SECTION SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, UH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, MAYBE MULTIPLE DOG PARKS IN THE, IN THE, IN THE TOWN.
UM, THE NUMBER OF DOG OWNERS IN OUR TOWN, YOU KNOW, OVER THE LAST DECADE.
SEEMS TO JUST GET, UH, BIGGER AND BIGGER.
THE ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO GO OUT, UM, OUTSIDE AND WANNA, WANNA HAVE A DOG PARK SEEMS TO ME, UH, TO BE JUST, UH, CONTINUES TO GROW YEAR OVER YEAR.
UM, NOT ONLY IN WESTERN NEW YORK, BUT ALSO THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.
UM, I DUNNO IF ANYONE'S BEEN UP TO EAST AURORA, BUT THEY'VE GOT AN, AN ABSOLUTE AMAZING, UH, DOG PARK THAT'S GOT HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE, UM, EVERY WEEKEND.
AND SO I THINK THIS IS, IS JUST A, A WAY TO UTILIZE ONE OF OUR FAC EXISTING FACILITIES.
UM, IT SHOULDN'T TAKE A TON OF, UM, TIME, MONEY, AND EFFORT.
UM, AND SO I JUST WANNA BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION.
THE NEXT STEP, I THINK IS THAT, UH, WE'RE GONNA WORK IN THE, UH, EARLY SPRING TO HAVE THE RESIDENT, UM, REACH OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, GET SOME INPUT, JUST GONNA BRING SOMETHING UP ABOUT THAT.
AND, UH, AND HOPEFULLY IF THERE'S, UH, ENOUGH OF AN INTEREST, UH, I CAN BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD.
AND WITH MARTY, UH, AND PAT RYAN, UH, HE WAS INVITED, WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE THE MEETING.
AND JUST TO SEE IF THIS IS POSSIBILITY OF UTILIZING, YOU KNOW, A REALLY NICE PARK BABA TO ENHANCE IT.
I, I THINK A DOG PARK IS A FANTASTIC IDEA.
I WOULD MAKE SURE THAT ALL RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA GET A FLYER AND ARE AWARE THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING IT.
YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE I PROPOSED ONE IN
EVERYBODY ON THE STREETS HAVE DOGS.
EVERYBODY ON THAT STREETS WAS AGAINST IT.
SO I, IT WAS THE FIRST THING I TOLD 'EM, I SAID BEFORE WE GO FURTHER.
CIRCULATE A FLYER, LET'S GET INPUT AND LET'S COULDN'T SEE IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY WANT.
THESE PEOPLE, THEY ALL HAVE DOGS IN THEIR HOUSE.
THEY DIDN'T WANT IT
SO I'M A BIG FAN, BUT WE GOTTA WATCH.
YOU KNOW, CHECK WITH THE NEIGHBOR.
ANOTHER ITEM THAT I'LL BRING UP AS WELL, UM, SINCE I SEE IT WITH THE VOUCHERS, I KNOW THAT WE DO PAY A COMPANY RIGHT NOW TO CLEAN THE EXISTING DOG PARK.
SO THERE IS LIKE A RECURRING CHARGE OBVIOUSLY FOR THAT.
UM, THE OTHER ITEM THAT CAME UP DURING BUDGET SEASON THAT SINCE YOU MENTIONED THE INCREASE IN DOGS THAT WE HAVE, UM, OUR TOWN CLERK COULD ALSO, UM, STATED THAT THE NUMBER OF DOGS THAT THE STATE ESTIMATES WE HAVE VERSUS HOW MANY WE HAVE PAYING FOR DOG LICENSES RIGHT NOW, THAT THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT DISCREPANCY.
SO IF WE'RE LOOKING INTO POTENTIALLY DOG PARKS IN ONE OR TWO OTHER AREAS, UM, I KNOW WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR SOURCES OF REVENUE.
I JUST THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS A GOOD MOMENT TO BRING UP THE FACT THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S OUT THERE.
I KNOW LIKE GRAND ISLAND JUST DID, UM, A, A DOG AUDIT, UM, OF HOW MANY PEOPLE REALLY HAVE 'EM.
UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS A POSSIBILITY THAT COULD INCREASE THE REVENUE THAT WE HAVE.
UH, THEY, THEY ISLAND ACTUALLY, I GET LETTERS EVERY ONCE.
WE DON'T HAVE AN ORDINANCE IN THIS TOWN, WHICH LIMITS THE NUMBER OF DOGS THAT YOU COULD HAVE AT YOUR HOME.
SO I JUST GOT ONE FROM LAKEVIEW ABOUT A MONTH AGO.
I GOT ONE FROM MOUNT VERNON TWO WEEKS AGO.
THIS FELLOW ALLEGEDLY, ACCORDING TO THE NEIGHBOR, HAS EIGHT DOGS AND THEY'RE ALL MENACING AND MESSY.
AND WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO ABOUT IT? ONE GUY SUGGESTED THAT WE HAVE, WE LICENSE CATS.
I SAID, WE HAVE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO DO THAN TO WORRY ABOUT FAIL LINE DELINQUENCY.
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REMEMBER THE BATTLE WE WENT THROUGH ON LABEL FOR THAT? THAT WAS, UH, SO I'M NOT SURE WE WANNA GET, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE DOG STUFF, MAN.WE DISCUSSED IT, UM, DOING DOG CENSUS AND THERE IS A, THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY TO BE HAD, QUITE FRANKLY.
IT'S A PUBLIC SAFETY AND HEALTH ISSUE.
IT GUARANTEES THAT THEY HAVE THEIR, UH, RABIES SHOT.
UM, ALSO MAKES IT A LOT EASIER TO TRACK ON AN OWNER IF, UH, THE DOG IS FOUND.
THERE'S A, THERE'S A GREAT MANY REASONS TO, TO HAVE A DOG LICENSED AND THE, THE VAST MAJORITY OF DOGS IN THE TOWN, UM, ARE NOT LICENSED.
ISN'T THAT SOMETHING THE, THE VAST MAJORITY, UM, PROBABLY FOUR TIMES AS MANY DOGS AS WE HAVE, LIKE SHORT OF AN AUDIT.
WHAT WOULD YOU SUGGEST WE COULD DO ABOUT THAT? WELL, I DON'T THINK YOU NECESSARILY HAVE TO DO AN AUDIT.
BASICALLY WHAT YOU DO IS YOU DO A POSTCARD AND YOU SAY, UH, YEAH.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO LICENSE YOUR DOG.
NOW IF YOU GET ONE AND YOU DON'T HAVE A DOG, YOU KNOW, YOU THROW IT OUT.
WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW THAT EVERYBODY'S GOT ONE, BUT YOU GOT ONE AND I OH, OH, APPARENTLY IT'S MY DOG, BUT THEY'RE, AND IT'LL CLEAR UP SOME MISPERCEPTIONS.
UM, THERE ARE VETERINARIANS THAT ACTUALLY HELP PEOPLE.
OH, YOU DON'T NEED TO GET YOUR DOG LICENSE.
I MEAN, SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WORKING AGAINST YEAH.
US GETTING DOG'S LICENSE AND KEEPING A LICENSE.
PEOPLE GET IT DONE ONCE AND THEN THEY DON'T COME BACK.
UM, WE GET A LOT OF THOSE DELINQUENCIES AND UH, WE TRY TO TRACK THEM DOWN.
BUT THE EASIEST WAY WOULD BE TO, UM, DO A, A, A POSTCARD.
BUT I'LL BE HONEST, THE, THE, THE TOWN CLERK IS HESITANT BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT WOULD BE INVOLVED AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IS NOT ACHIEVED EITHER.
AND THERE, THAT WAS WHERE, SO KATHY HAD RECEIVED A PROPOSAL FROM A COMPANY TO DO IT.
I KNOW THAT GRAND ISLAND JUST DID IT RECENTLY.
UHHUH
WELL IT'S, THAT'S ONE PORTION IS GETTING THE, THE MAIL OUT.
THE OTHER PART OF THAT THOUGH, IS TAKING THE CUSTOMERS THAT COME IN.
AND I'LL, I'LL BE HONEST, WE'RE, WE'RE TAXED TO THE, THE FULLEST.
THERE'S NOT, THERE'S NOT A DAY THAT GOES BY THAT I SIT IDLY BY THAT ANYONE IN OUR OFFICE DOES.
UM, IF YOU GO TO OUR OFFICE RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A STACK OF DOGS THAT STILL HAVE TO BE INPUT THIS HIGH, UM MM-HMM
THINGS, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY DURING TAX SEASON, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE THIN MM-HMM
UM, YOU KNOW, NOW WE JUST, YOU KNOW, ONE OF OUR STAFF IS OUT BECAUSE OF AN ILLNESS.
MAKES IT EVEN THAT MUCH MORE DIFFICULT.
AND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU ADD AND IT, YOU MAY SEE, WELL, THEY'RE JUST GETTING THEIR LICENSE, IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF TIME YEAH.
AND SOMEONE COMES IN, OH, WELL I DON'T HAVE MY RABIES CERTIFICATE.
WELL, WE'LL CALL FOR YOU WHERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S TIME INVOLVED IN EACH AND EVERY VISIT.
SO YEAH, I MEAN, IT, IT, UH, IT RESULT IN MORE MONEY.
UM, AND, UH, BUT IT WOULD TAKE MORE EFFORT AND THE STATE DICTATES THAT THAT MONEY GOES TOWARD SOME, IN SOME WAY, SHAPE OR FORM, UH, TOWARD EFFORTS TO, UH, KEEP DOGS IN, YOU KNOW, UH, THE TOWN HEALTH, UH, SAFETY IN MIND WITH DOGS ACCORDINGLY FACE FOR THE DC FOR EXAMPLE.
UH, HIS TRUCK, HIS GAS, HIS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE HIS SO YOU'RE SAYING THE MONEY THAT YOU BRING IN CAN'T BE THROWN INTO THE GENERAL FUND AND USED FOR, UH, COMPUTERS OR, OR SOFTWARE.
BUT I WOULD IMAGINE IT CAN BE USED TO PAY HIS SALE RATE, BUT YEAH, IT COULD.
YOU DO HAVE, YOU, YOU, I I DON'T KNOW IF IT OFFSETS NOW.
BUT IF IT DOESN'T, OBVIOUSLY IF YOU HAVE MONEY COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND TO PAY FOR THE DCO, YOU TAKE THAT MONEY AND PUT IT BACK IN YOUR GENERAL FUND AND THEN REPLACE IT WITH DOG MONEY.
CAN A, CAN A LETTER WITH THIS REQUEST BE PUT IN WITH THE TAX BILL THAT YOU MAIL OUT OR NO, I DON'T THINK ALLOWED DO THAT.
THERE'S, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE ALLOWED TO DO THAT.
THERE'S NOT TOO MANY INSTANCES WHERE YOU CAN PIGGYBACK ON, UH, ON A TEXTBOOK, BUT EVEN THEN IT STILL COSTS MONEY.
YOU STILL HAVE THE, YOUR MOTHER HAD SAID TO ME THAT THAT WAS, THAT SHE COULDN'T INSERT MESSAGES IN WITHOUT
THERE'S NOT, LIKE I SAID, NOT TOO MANY INSTANCES THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO, TO DO THAT THERE.
I'M SURE THERE'S SOME, BUT THIS IS IN ALL LIKELIHOOD IN THAT ONE.
UM, SO THIS YEAR, DOG LICENSES, THE BUDGET WAS DROPPED FROM 50,000 TO $40,000 ON THE REVENUE SIDE OF THINGS.
AND WE PAY, WE BUDGET $47,000 WITHIN OUR CONTROL OF ANIMALS DEPARTMENTS.
SO WE SPEND MORE THAN WE TAKE ON THAT.
NOW, COULD THOSE, IF WE DID INCREASE THOSE REVENUES COMING IN AND YOU SAID THAT IT HAS TO BE USED SPECIFICALLY, COULD IT BE USED FOR THE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE REOCCURRING CHARGE THAT SAM NOTED BEFORE? I WOULD THINK SO, YES.
OR FOR MAYBE IT COULD ALSO BE USED ASSOCIATED
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TAKE FOR THE, YOU KNOW, ANY EXTRA MAILING AND STUFF LIKE THAT.WE, UM, EVERY MONTH POSTCARDS GO OUT THAT'S NOT REFLECTED IN THERE.
WE CAN BE CREATIVE AND CREATE THE EXPENSES OF A DOG CART.
WELL, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THAT MIGHT BE, IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT CAN BE LOOKED AT TOO.
WELL, AND I ACTUALLY DID JUST SEE THE VOUCHER AS I WAS GOING THROUGH THESE.
UM, THAT IT'S ABOUT $50 WE PAY EVERY, UM, FOR EVERY CLEANING OF THE DOG PARK.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE ABOUT FOUR CHARGES A MONTH.
IF YOU'RE GONNA DO A FLYER IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, ASK YOU ABOUT INTEREST FOR A DOG PARK, YOU CAN PUT ON THERE THAT YOUR DOG LICENSE.
OR WELL, AND I WOULDN'T MIND SEEING A SIGN UP AT THE DOG PARK MYSELF.
SO IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE USING THIS DOG PARK, YOUR DOG NEEDS TO BE LOST.
I MEAN, THAT'S BY STATE LAW YOU ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE YOUR, HAVE STATE LAW.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE LOOKED AT AS WELL.
WITH THE LAST MEETING I TALKED ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO BE FORWARD THINKING.
WE HAVE TO LOOK AT FUTURE REVENUES.
UM, SO I HAVE A KIND OF A LIST THAT I'VE GOT IN MIND THAT I WAS GONNA WAIT TILL AFTER THIS.
BUT ON THAT LIST IS THE DOG HAD TRIED, REACHED OUT TO KATHY A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, MAYBE, I THINK IT WAS AROUND 3,200 REGISTERED, UH, DOGS, WHICH I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT, UM, I REMEMBER THINKING, YOU KNOW, WITH A TOWN WITH 58,000, UH, RESIDENTS KNOWING MANY FAMILIES HAVE OVER 20,000 DOGS, 20 TO 25,000, HOW MUCH IS ONE DOG FEE? IT DEPENDS ON WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE A SENIOR CITIZEN.
THE DOG ROUND HAS BEEN NEUTERED, WE'LL SAY 11 BUCKS IF THE DOG IS SPAYED OR NEUTERED.
SO WE HAVE ABOUT 3,600 REGISTERED.
BUT 11 BUCKS IS PRETTY MUCH, AND NO DOGS HERE.
I'VE GOT RABBITS, GUINEA PIGS AND CATS.
THEY, THE STATE GETS A DOLLAR
IT'S THE ONLY TIME THAT I KNOW I'VE HEARD THAT THE STATE GETS THE SHORT END OF THIS.
IT'S USUALLY US TO GET THE, SO WE CAN LOOK AT WHAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES HAVE DONE, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT OTHER MISSALS HAVE HIGH, HIGH, A HIGHER RATE THAT SEEMS MORE ACCURATE WITH THE NUMBER.
AND, AND ALSO INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE IS A WONDERFUL THING.
THAT TOWN CLERK HAS BEEN HERE FOR QUITE A WHILE AND HAS A LOT OF INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE AND IT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PAST.
UM, SO IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO RECREATE THE WHEEL HERE.
IT'S, IT'S A MATTER OF DO WE HAVE THE, THE, THE FUNDING TO SEND OUT THE MAILING AND, AND THEN THE STAFF TO TAKE IN THE YEAH.
I MEAN THAT, THAT'S REALLY, AND I MIGHT, YOU KNOW, THE TOP, EVERYBODY KICK ME IN THE REAR END FOR SAY, BRIAN, BUT ANYBODY TO SPEND AN HOUR OR TWO IN OUR OFFICE AT ANY TIME, TAKE YOUR TIME OF DAY BETWEEN, UH, SAY NINE AND, AND FOUR.
USUALLY PETER'S OUT AROUND FOUR.
I'M NOT GONNA LIE TO YOU, BUT THAT'S WHO WE GOT TO TAKE IN THE TILL.
BUT COME ON IN, THEN ANSWER THE PHONES WITH US, YOU'LL HAVE A BALL.
I MEAN, IF IT WAS GONNA BE SUCH AN INCREASE IN REVENUE THAT COULD WARRANT, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL PART-TIME HOURS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON A TEMPORARY BASIS.
WELL, 'CAUSE IT'S GENERALLY A ONE, A ONE TIME EXPENSE THAT, WELL, WE BRING IN PART-TIMERS FOR TAX SEASON TOO.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S, AND WE'VE GOT A COUPLE THAT ARE, UH, BASICALLY A FORMER TOWN CLERKS FROM OTHER TOWNS THAT ARE YEAH.
ARE EXCELLENT AT WHAT THEY DO.
AND, AND I THINK YOU ALSO DID, I I BELIEVE, AND, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE WITH OTHER FUNCTIONS IN THE, IN THE TOWN, BUT I THINK YOU CAN RENEW YOUR LICENSE ONLINE.
I KNOW I DID MINE THAT WAY LAST TIME.
AND IT REALLY, IT'S LIKE THAT FIRST TIME YOU FORGET, ALMOST FORGET.
BUT THE FIRST TIME YOU DO IT YOU SAY, WHY DIDN'T I DO THIS BEFORE? SO MAYBE EVEN JUST A, SOME AWARENESS AND PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE I'M SURE THAT SAVES YOUR STAFF SOME TIME ALSO WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN PEOPLE ARE USE UTILIZING OUR ONLINE SERVICES, WHICH KIND OF LEADS INTO ANOTHER, ANOTHER AREA WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE.
YOU KNOW, AGAIN, INCREASING PUBLIC AWARENESS, NOT ONLY OF THE CONVENIENCE OF THAT, BUT, UM, THE EFFICIENCIES FOR US FROM AN OPERATING EXPENSE PERSPECTIVE.
AND ALSO NOW WITH THE BACKDROP OF COVID.
I MEAN, THAT'S JUST ANOTHER REASON FOR US, I THINK TO BE, UM, AND PROMOTING OUR ONLINE SERVICES WHEREVER POSSIBLE.
ONLY DIFFICULTY THERE IS THAT, UH, THEY DO HAVE TO HAVE A CURRENT RABIES CERTIFICATE.
YOU GOTTA BE ABLE TO SCAN THAT IN.
AND QUITE FRANKLY, UPLOADING IT, IT IS BEYOND THE SOFTWARE THAT WE HAVE.
UM, AND FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW, BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE VETERINARIAN
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HAS A DIFFERENT FORM.SO TO UPLOAD IT AND BE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE IT THAT DATE, SOME WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND INPUT 'EM ANYWAY.
WE HAVE PEOPLE MAIL 'EM IN, SO WE KIND OF DO 'EM AND NOT GONNA VET, YOU KNOW, A BACKLOG AND DO 'EM WHEN WE HAVE THE, THE WINDOW TO DO 'EM.
BUT, YOU KNOW, BY AND LARGE IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU STILL HAVE TO BE IN EVERY THREE YEARS.
SOMETHING ELSE IS MAYBE POTENTIAL IS, IS YOU SAY THAT THE MAIN PROBLEM IS REALLY IS GETTING 'EM REGISTERED THE FIRST TIME.
AND THEN WE GOT, THEN WE GOT THEIR ADDRESS, WE GOT THEIR PHONE NUMBER, WE GOT SOMETIMES GET THEIR EMAIL.
WHAT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, CALL ME CRAZY, BUT WHAT ABOUT SENDING OUT A POSTCARD, YOU KNOW, AND OFFERING, YOU KNOW, FOR A FIRST TIME DOG, YOU KNOW, LICENSE, YOU KNOW, WILL GIVE YOU 10% OFF OR SOMETHING.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO THAT OR NOT, BUT JUST TO
BUT STILL, IT MIGHT BE THE INCENTIVE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, BY STATE LAW YOU HAVE TO HAVE THIS, WE'RE OFFERING A ONE TIME DEAL, 10% OFF OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, TO GET YOUR DOG LICENSED.
THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO BE LICENSED TO GO INTO THE TOWN PARKS AND BLAH, BLAH, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER.
MAYBE IT'LL BE QUESTION BRAD, LEMME ASK YOU A QUESTION.
WHEN WE LICENSE A DOG, UH, UH, DO WE, IS IT A YEAR, TWO YEAR RENEWAL? IT'S AN ANNUAL RENEWAL.
UH, IS THAT FIXED BY STATE LAW, UH, ON AN ANNUAL BASIS? OR IS THAT SOMETHING WE'VE ADOPTED PURSUANT WITH THE RESOLUTION? NO, EVERY, EVERYONE THAT I'M AWARE OF DOES IT, UH, ANNUALLY.
UH, I, I DON'T KNOW OF ANYONE THAT DOES IT ANY MORE THAN I OKAY.
WELL HERE'S MY, MY MESSAGE THAT IT, WHAT THE STATE, HERE'S MY QUESTION.
UH, FOR A NON-SENIOR, IT'S 11 BUCKS OR IT'S IT MM-HMM
SO WHAT IF WE WERE TO SAY, UM, UH, THE COST IS $11 AND IT'S RENEWABLE EACH YEAR.
HOWEVER, IF YOU WANNA REGISTER YOUR DOG, IT'S LIKE TAKING A CHANCE ON LIFESPAN
IT'S 25 BUCKS, PAY NOW, AND YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE TO VISIT US AGAIN.
I LIKE THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT OFFER THAT, THAT, THAT WANT TO DO THAT UHHUH.
AND IF THEY'RE LATE GETTING IN YEAH.
UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE THEY'RE FIVE MONTHS LATE AND THEY WANNA PAY FORWARD.
SOMETIMES WE'LL TAKE IT, BUT WE MAKE SURE YOU TELL IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, YOU DON'T GET YOUR REFUND RUST NEXT YEAR THEY'RE NOT GETTING YOUR EIGHT BUCKS, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T WORK.
WELL, WE CAN CERTAINLY PUT THAT INTO A, INTO A NOTICE TOO.
IT ALSO DEPENDS HOW LONG THEY'RE, HOW LONG THEIR RABIES CERTIFICATION IS GOOD FOR.
IT WOULD'VE TO BE AT THE BEGINNING.
OR THEY'D HAVE TO SUBMIT A NEW ONE, SO.
I MEAN, I'D HONESTLY, IF IT WERE, UH, IF I HIT MY DRUTHERS, I WOULD MAKE CALLS.
UH, WE'VE GOT PURINA AROUND HERE.
WE'VE GOT MILK BONE AROUND HERE.
UM, I'D WORK THE PHONES AND SEE WHO I COULD GET TO PUT A A A BAG TOGETHER.
YOU GET A, A FREE, UH, WELCOME DOGGY BAG.
THAT WAY WE DON'T LOSE ANY MONEY.
AND I TRY AND GET SOMETHING FOR FREE.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY I LOOK.
YOU COULD BRING IN YOU A CHEW TOY.
WE OFFER, WE ACTUALLY DO OFFER, UH, DOG BISCUITS WHEN THEY, THEY COME IN IF YOU, YEAH.
SO ALL SEAN, YOU, YOU SAID YOU HAD A COUPLE OF THINGS.
SO THE OTHER ONE WAS JUST A REMINDER.
UH, ANY, ANY ANYBODY THAT HAS VOLUNTEERS TO SERVE ON THE RECYCLING, UH, REFUGE, UH, COMMITTEE.
UH, AND IT'S REALLY OUT, OUT TO THE PUBLIC.
UH, WE'RE LOOKING FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT, UH, RECYCLING CA PASSIONATE ABOUT THEIR GARBAGE, UH, REMOVAL.
UM, MIGHT HAVE EXPERIENCE, UM, IN, IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.
REALLY JUST A PASSION FOR IT, UH, TO SERVE ON THAT COMMITTEE.
YOU KNOW, IDEALLY, I THINK IF WE HAVE THAT COMMITTEE FORMED BY THE END OF THE YEAR, THEY CAN GET, YOU KNOW, OFF AND RUNNING NEXT YEAR.
I KNOW HE HAD TALKED IN THE PAST IN TERMS OF THE PROJECTS, UM, HAVING SOMEBODY IN THE TOWN BEING WILLING TO COORDINATE SOME OF THE PROJECTS MM-HMM
ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO RFPS.
AND, UM, HE DID SAY HE WAS WILLING TO HELP OUT, UM, AS NEEDED.
SO IF THAT'S STILL SOMETHING THAT COMES UP, UM, OH YEAH.
I THINK HE'D BE PERFECT FOR IT.
AND, UM, AND, UH, JUST WANNA LET YOU, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE.
I KNOW WE'VE KEPT SAYING SOMEBODY GONNA TALK TO SOMEBODY, SO I DID.
WE OUT TO HIM AND, UH, HE SEEMS OPEN TO, TO HELPING OUT FOR SURE.
HE'S A GOOD PERSON AND A GOOD WORKER.
AND HE KNOWS THE PERMIT PROCESS.
HE KNOWS A LOT OF WHAT'S GONNA GO INTO THE CONSTRUCTION.
SO I THINK HIS EXPERIENCE, UM, AND KIND OF THOROUGHNESS WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL.
UH, THE LAST IS THE, UM, ERIE SEAWAY TRAIL CENTER.
UM, THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO, UM, HIRE AN ARTIST TO, TO HAVE SOME DESIGN WORK TO ENHANCE THE FACILITY.
UM, SO THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF INTERVIEWING DIFFERENT ARTISTS, UH, TO MAKE SOME, SOME WORK.
UH, THEY HAVE EXCESS FUNDS FROM, UH, WHAT WE'VE ALLOCATED, AND THEY SEE THIS AS AN ENHANCEMENT TO THE, TO
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THE CENTER.UH, IT'S BEEN A TOUGH YEAR FOR THE CENTER IN TERMS OF VISITORS BECAUSE OF, OF COVID.
UM, AND SOME OF THE, UM, MAINTENANCE THAT, THAT, UM, WAS A LITTLE BIT, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, BY THE TIME IT WAS UP AND RUNNING, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT LATER THAN NORMAL.
UM, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY FEEL, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN PROACTIVELY ENHANCE THE, ENHANCE THE OUTDOOR MM-HMM
UH, FACADE OF THE, THE BUILDING.
SO IS THAT JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, A LOT OF THE ARTWORK THAT'S, UM, OUT THERE NOW, HAS THAT BEEN COMMISSIONED? IS IT OTHER, UH, ARE THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST DONATING THEIR TIME EFFORT AND OH, THAT ON THE, ON THE BUILDING, THAT ARTWORK WE WALLS, IT'S NOT, NOT BEEN COMMISSIONED.
THAT'S A LOT OF VOLUNTEER WORK.
THIS WOULD BE A SEPARATE, UH, SO IT'S VERY, VERY, IT IS.
THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME TALENT FOR INTERIOR OR EXTERIOR.
AND IT'D BE MORE, UH, SCULPTURE ORIENTED.
UM, SO IT'D BE A PERMANENT, UM, IT WOULDN'T BE, IT'S REALLY UP TO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, UM, ARTIST.
THEY'RE GONNA DO THE PRESENTATIONS IN THE NEXT, UH, WEEK OR SO.
UM, SO IT'LL BE BASED ON THEIR IDEAS, BUT THE IDEA IS REALLY TO HAVE A NICE, UH, SCULPTURE, UM, THAT TIES IN THE THEME OF THE WATER.
UH, THE WATERWAY, UM, LAKE ERIE, UM, THE SEAWAY TRAIL THEME.
AND THIS IS FROM THEIR, THEIR TOWN BUDGET? UH, WELL, ALL THE FUNDS THAT THEY'VE RAISED, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN FUNDRAISERS.
WE, WE, WE ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE GIVE SOME, GIVE THEM AN ALLOTMENT EVERY YEAR.
UM, SO IT'S IN THE, IT'S, IT IS ALREADY, THEY ALREADY HAVE THE FUNDS READY.
DEPENDING ON THE PROJECT, THEY MAY LOOK TO RAISE ADDITIONAL FUNDS.
UM, BUT THAT WOULD BE REALLY THEIR RESPONSIBILITY, NOT THE TOWN.
SO THEY'VE RETAINED, I KNOW WITH A LOT OF OUR COMMITTEES, 'CAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED THIS YEAR, THEY WERE REALLY BRINGING THEIR MONEY BACK.
THE DIFFERENT COMMITTEES, THEY DIDN'T SPEND IT.
I, I WAS GONNA SAY, SO
UH, SO YEAH, I THINK THEY'RE, UM, LOOKING AT, THEY'VE BEEN LOOKING AT AND SOME ENHANCEMENTS TO THE SITE.
I WENT OUT THERE AT THE START OF THE YEAR, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A, A NICE MEETING, UM, AND IT REALLY, IT WAS DEFINITELY IN, IN NEED OF SOME, UM, REPAIRS AND, AND SOME AESTHETICS ON THE OUTSIDE.
SO NEW LANDSCAPING WAS DONE, AND THEN THIS IS KIND OF THE NEXT STEP OF ENHANCING, UM, YOU KNOW, THE OUT OUTDOOR AREA.
I ALWAYS WONDERED ABOUT THE UTILIZATION OF THAT BUILDING.
UM, BUT I, I, I, I'LL TELL YOU IF WE CAN, YOU KNOW, IF THESE IMPROVEMENTS CAN BE DONE, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT, IT'S A GROUP OF VERY COMMITTED VOLUNTEERS THAT, THAT WANNA HELP AND WANNA, WANNA MAKE IT, UH, SUCCESSFUL.
UH, IF THEY CAN DO WHAT, WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO, THERE'S NOT A BETTER PLACE TO BE SITTING, UH, TO WATCH THE SUNSET, UH, TO HAVE, UM, PRESENTATIONS, UH, ON WILDLIFE, ON, YOU KNOW, THE SEAWAY ON THE GREAT LAKES.
UH, THEY'VE HAD GREAT EDUCATIONAL SPEAKERS IN THE PAST.
TALK ABOUT, UH, THE WATER, THE ENVIRONMENT, THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, THEY'VE GOT A GREAT SETUP INSIDE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN WALK THROUGH.
THEY HAVE HAD VISITORS FROM OTHER STATES THAT ARE WALKING THROUGH AND THAT SEE THE SEAWAY TRAIL.
AND THIS IS A SPOT DESIGNATED, UH, THE OTHER SPOTS ARE IN THE, GENERALLY THE FINGER LAKES, UH, REGION.
UM, AND SO IF WE CAN, IF WE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE AMOUNT THAT WE'RE PUTTING INTO THAT AND THE RESOURCES, UM, THEY'RE VERY SMALL FOR THE POTENTIAL OF THIS BEING, UH, GREAT.
BUT I WAS VERY UPFRONT WITH 'EM, AND I SAID, WHEN I, WHEN I DID THE TOUR AND I SAID, I SAID, THIS IS NOT REALLY A GOOD REPRESENTATION OF THE TOWN AS IT WAS.
AND AGAIN, IT WAS THE START OF THE YEAR.
AND, AND THEY NEEDED, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME TIME TO, TO GET EVERYTHING UP AND RUNNING.
UM, AND THEY AGREED AND THEY CAME THROUGH.
I MEAN, THEY RIPPED OUT THE LANDSCAPING.
UH, THEY'VE BEEN REACHING OUT TO THESE SCULPT, UH, THESE ARTISTS TO ENHANCE IT.
UM, THEY'VE GOT A PLAN TO HAVE A SERVPRO COME THROUGH AND CLEAN UP, UH, THE WHOLE INTERIOR.
SO WE'RE REALLY OPTIMISTIC THAT COME THE 2021, YOU KNOW, MAY, JUNE, UH, IDEALLY WE CAN HAVE A GRAND OPENING.
WE CAN KIND OF GIVE IT, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME NEW LIFE AND SEE IF WE CAN'T GET MORE PEOPLE TO UTILIZE IT.
'CAUSE IT IS A GREAT, UH, FACILITY.
AND I, AND THEY, THEY AGREE AS WELL.
AND IT'S, IT'S NOT REALLY OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT OUT IN THE PUBLIC.
IT'S NOT HOW I PUT THIS, YOU KNOW, LIKE NO ONE KNOWS IT'S THERE.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER, YOU HAVE TO, UH, GET IT OUT IN A, IN A AREA WHERE PEOPLE ARE GONNA SEE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, NUMBER OFF WHAT
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DO YOU HAVE TO OFFER.BUT NUMBER TWO, IF YOU GO HERE, YOU CAN PARK HERE, YOU CAN PARK AT THE SCHOOL, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW MM-HMM
AND GIVE 'EM THE LOWDOWN ON IT AND WHAT'S AVAILABLE.
BUT IT NEEDS TO BE PROMOTED BETTER, I GUESS YOU WOULD SAY.
AND I THINK THAT THEY RECOGNIZE AND AGREE WITH THAT.
SO, UH, FIRST STEP IS BEAUTIFYING IT.
SECOND STEP WOULD BE THEN PROMOTING ACTIVITIES AND EVENTS AND, AND HOPING IT TAKES FROM THERE AND THE LAND THAT'S RIGHT.
UM, BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB.
THEY'VE FOCUSED THERE UP FOR ABOUT THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF.
AND THEY'VE PUT THOSE ADIRONDACKS CHAIRS.
THEY'VE REALLY BEEN, UM, TARGETING THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW WHERE I'M TALKING ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, SPOT RIGHT ADJACENT TO IT.
THAT SEEMS TO GET UTILIZED QUITE A BIT AS I PASS, PASS BY.
AND KUDOS TO BUILDING SOME GROUNDS FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE THERE.
I THINK IT'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL.
I KNOW, UM, PAT RYAN AND LOUIE, UM, AS SOON AS WE ASKED, 'CAUSE THEY HAD MENTIONED THAT CHAIRS WERE THERE.
'CAUSE AT, AT THE FIRST MEETING WE HAD, UM, THE NEXT DAY, OR WITHIN DAYS, THEY HAD IT ALL SET UP MM-HMM
AND THEY SENT AN EMAIL BACK TO, TO THANK THE TOWN FOR, UM, GETTING RUN OUTTA TOP OF IT.
AND THE TIMES I'VE BEEN THERE, THEY'VE BEEN, IT'S BEEN FORTUNATE.
I MEAN, THE PLACE REALLY GETS A LOT OF PEOPLE, NOT NECESSARILY SEAWAY TRAIL, BUT THAT AREA, THAT LITTLE AREA DOES A LOT OF PEOPLE.
AND SO I THINK HAVING THAT LOOK NICE, UM, BE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT, UM, IS IMPORTANT.
AND SO THEY'RE REALLY, UH, STEPPING UP THEIR EFFORTS TO MAKE IT, MAKE IT HAPPEN.
SO I WANNA JUST REPORT THAT TO GIVE EVERYBODY AN UPDATE.
HERE'S, HERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU KICK AROUND FOR A WHILE.
THE SHORELINE REVITALIZATION COMMITTEE, UH, IS A PRETTY ACTIVE GROUP.
THEY'VE GOT, UH, 23 PEOPLE ON THE COMMITTEE, AND THEY WANTED TO EXPAND THE SCOPE OF THEIR OPERATION TO BECOME A SHORELINE REVITALIZATION AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE.
SO I MET WITH THE VILLAGE OF HAM REPRESENTATIVES ON THE, UH, HISTORIC, UH, PRESERVATION BOARD, UH, TWO OF THEM.
AND, UH, WE'VE GOTTEN, UH, HOW TO DO IT.
TO BOOK, UH, WE'D HAVE TO ENACT A LOCAL LAW.
UH, WE'D HAVE TO FORMULATE A COMMITTEE.
MEMBERSHIP IS COMPRISED OF VOLUNTEERS, BUT YOU NEED, UH, AN ENGINEER, AN ARCHITECT, A REAL ESTATE PERSON.
UH, THE ADVANTAGE ASIDE FROM PRESERVING BUILDINGS, UH, IN OUR TOWNSHIP THAT ARE HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT IS, IS THAT, UH, IMPROVEMENTS DERIVE STATE, UH, TAX CREDITS.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, IF IT HAD, IF YOU SPENT $40,000, YOU'D BE GETTING A DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR CREDIT ON CORPORATE OR INDIVIDUAL STATE INCOME TAX RETURNS.
INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, IF CERTAIN AREAS CAN BE DESIGNATED AS HISTORIC PRESERVATION SITES, THAT COULD BE VERY IMPORTANT AS WE THINK DOWN THE ROAD ABOUT OUR SHORELINE.
AND THE DESIGNATION OF IT AS A HISTORIC PRESERVATION AREA OR SITE, EITHER THROUGH A LARGE EXPANSE OF THE TOWN OR THROUGH CERTAIN PORTIONS, COULD BE A VERY SIGNIFICANT CONTROL MECHANISM AGAINST FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OR USES THAT WE MIGHT CONSIDER.
I, I'LL GET YOU, UH, WE WON'T PROBABLY GET INTO THIS UNTIL AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR.
'CAUSE THE COMMITTEE'S ALL EXCITED ABOUT DOING THIS, THAT, AND THE OTHER THING.
BUT, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT IT.
I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S OUTSTANDING.
AND I, I I, I BELIEVE THAT A LOT OF THE VILLAGE AREA HAS THAT DESIGNATION.
UH, AND YOU LOOK AT A PLACE LIKE THE GRANGE, YOU KNOW, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THEY WERE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE THAT'S RIGHT.
NOW HERE'S A PLACE THAT, UH, IS NOW, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CENTER POINTS, UH, IN TERMS OF A BREAKFAST, LUNCH AND, AND DINNER EATERY, UM, THRIVING DESPITE COVID.
AND IN GOOD PART, I THINK INITIALLY IT WAS THOSE HISTORIC.
A LOT OF HOMES IN THE VILLAGE TOO ARE DESIGNATED AS HISTORIC PRESERVATION SITES.
THEY, THEY, THEY HAVE ASSEMBLED QUITE A BODY OF WORK THAT, THAT COMMITTEES TERRIFIC.
SO IT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER FOR THE NEW YEAR.
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF STUFF, UH, THAT'LL BE COMING UP, UH, RIGHT AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR TO THINK ABOUT.
SO I GUESS ONE, I HAVE ONE MORE THEN.
UM, IN TERMS OF THE NEW YEAR, I DID TALK TO MARK, AND I KNOW, UM, THAT THIS WORKED REALLY, UH, PROBABLY THE CLOSEST WITH MARK IN TERMS OF THIS.
BUT WHEN I STARTED, UH, AND MET WITH HIM, I SAID, I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE AT THE END OF THE YEAR, UM, A SUMMARY OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON, WHAT THE STATUS IS AND WHAT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT.
UM, SO HE, HE SAID HE'D BE, YOU KNOW, WILLING TO PROVIDE THAT AT THE END OF THE, THE YEAR.
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AND I THINK IT MIGHT BE A, A NICE ANNUAL THING FOR US TO DO, WHETHER IT BE WE MEET WITH HIM IN, YOU KNOW, MID-JANUARY OR EARLY FEBRUARY TO LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR, UM, AND WHAT DO WE HAVE GOING ON FOR THE NEXT YEAR, UM, TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE REALLY, YOU KNOW, GETTING, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE PROJECTS ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND WE'RE KEEPING EVERYBODY ACCOUNTABLE.HE DID SEND OVER, I SHOULD SHARE, I DID, I SHOULD SHARE WITH ALL OF YOU.
HE DID SEND OVER A, UH, UH, AN OUTLINE AS OF LABOR DAY OF ALL OF THE, UH, GRANT APPLICATIONS, ALL THE GRANTS HAVE BEEN AWARDED AND WHERE WE'RE AT.
SO HE GAVE YOU A LIST OF WHAT HE WENT FOR AND CAN YOU SEND THAT OUT? YEAH, I'D BE CURIOUS TO SEE THAT.
JUST 'CAUSE WE SHOULD GET THAT EVERY YEAR.
THIS IS AS OF THE OF LABOR DAY, BUT I'LL GIVE YOU WHAT I GOT.
UH, 'CAUSE I ASKED HIM SPECIFIC, SO GIMME A HEADS UP.
'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF, A LOT OF FLOATING PIECES OUT HERE I'M NOT AWARE OF.
I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES TOO, OF THE STRATEGIC PLANNING TEAM WHEN WE WERE, UH, MEETING AGAIN WITH COVID HASN'T MET SURE.
BUT THAT WITH MARK, UM, INVOLVED WITH THAT GROUP, WE HAD REALLY STARTED TO, THAT WAS THE, I THINK THE GENESIS OF THAT GROUP EVEN WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE BROUGHT ALL OF, UM, THE TOWN DEPARTMENTS AND INDIVIDUALS WHO HAD VESTED INTERESTS IN MANY OF THESE PROJECTS TOGETHER, SO THAT EVERYONE, TO GET EVERYONE ON THE SAME PAGE, TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION WHERE WE HAD THOSE COMMON GOALS AND WHERE PEOPLE WERE PULLING IN THE SAME, SAME DIRECTION AND COULD PLAY OFF OF, UM, UH, SOME OF THE DIFFERENT GRANT OPPORTUNITIES TOGETHER.
UH, AND, AND PARLAY, YOU KNOW, IN, INTO BIGGER, BIGGER, UM, WINS FOR THE TOWN.
AND WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THAT NOW.
SO IT WILL BE HELPFUL TO SEE THOSE ANNUAL REPORTS.
AND I THINK IT'S IMP YEAH, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, YOU MIGHT HAVE THE RECREATION AND SENIOR SERVICES AND, YOU KNOW, AN ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY ALL OVERLAPPING, YOU KNOW, WITH WHAT THE HIGHWAY CAN DO OR WHAT BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS CAN DO.
AND IF EVERYBODY'S KIND OF DOING THEIR OWN THING AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, JUST ONCE A YEAR SAYING, OKAY, WHAT ARE WE WORKING ON? WHAT DEPARTMENTS ARE AFFILIATED, ARE, ARE, ARE THE DEPARTMENTS TALKING TOGETHER? AND JUST KIND OF, UM, GIVES US A LITTLE BIT BETTER DIRECTION.
AND A GOOD EXAMPLE IS THE, THE IMPORTANCE OF THE TOWN WIDE DRAINAGE STUDY ACTUALLY CAME OUT OF ALL THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THESE INDIVIDUALS AT STRATEGIC PLANNING MEETINGS.
AND SO THERE, THOSE CONVERSATIONS, UM, WHEN EVERYONE HAS THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO SEE THE COMMON THREADS BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENTS TO SEE WHAT NEEDS THERE ARE ACROSS THE DEPARTMENTS.
YOU, YOU GET, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT INFORMATION RESULTS IN, UM, YOU KNOW, PROJECTS LIKE A TOWN WAGE DRAINAGE STUDY.
YOU UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S IMPORTANT FROM ALL THE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES FROM THE DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
AND THEN YOU CAN BRING EVERYONE'S EFFORTS TOGETHER.
I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS, UH, I HOPE FOR IN 2021, THAT DESPITE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH COVID TO 19, THAT THE TAP AND THE CFA POSSIBLY COULD OPEN UP.
BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE QUITE A FEW PROJECTS THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, HAD GONE THROUGH THE, THE PLANNING STAGES, WE WERE READY AND HAD IDENTIFIED THEM FOR TAP GRANTS FOR CFA.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WITH EVERYTHING, HAVE THAT HAPPENED THIS YEAR, WE'VE HAD TO PUT THAT ON HOLD.
UM, SO IF, IF THAT REOPENS NEXT YEAR, THEN THERE'S A FEW REALLY SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS DOWN, DOWN THE ROAD THAT WILL BE VERY HELPFUL.
ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IT INVOLVES INFRASTRUCTURE.
I THINK THAT WAS THE GENESIS FOR THE WHOLE THING.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WITH GOING GRANT WRITERS, YOU HAD, EVERYBODY WAS DOING THEIR OWN THING.
IT WAS ALL OVER THE PLACE AND NO CONSISTENT, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND, YOU KNOW, UH, THAT'S WHY I HAVE IT IN ONE PERSON'S HANDS TO KIND OF GO AND IT'S THE WAY TO GO.
WELL, THE OTHER THING IS, A LOT OF THESE GRANTS, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
IT'S, IT'S A SEVERAL YEAR PROCESS.
SO YOU HAVE TO BE, I THINK, YOU KNOW, PAINS TAKING THE PAINSTAKING TIME TO STAY ON TOP OF IT, BE AWARE OF IT, IDENTIFY IT.
AND UH, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE VILLAGE HAS DONE, I MEAN, I THINK THEY WERE MASTERS AT, AND AGAIN, I I, MOST OF THAT CREDIT I THINK GOES TO PAUL BECKER.
HE WAS SO DILIGENT ABOUT KNOWING WHEN THE GRANT WAS UP, WHAT YOU NEEDED WHEN IT WAS DUE, AND THINKING, NOT WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO THIS MONTH, BUT WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, 10 YEARS FROM NOW, 15 YEARS FROM NOW.
AND DOING THE THINGS NOW TO GET THERE.
AND THE CRITICAL PART IS TOO IS, IS WHEN YOU GET THE GRANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT STAYS ON PATH AND YOU KEEP IT ON PATH.
YOU DON'T BUY A, A AIR CONDITIONER WHEN YOU WANT A WASHER OR, YOU KNOW, AND MAKE SURE THAT IT GETS CLOSED OUT AND DONE CORRECTLY.
AND THE MORE SUCCESS YOU HAVE, THE EASIER IT IS FOR YOU TO GET GRANTS.
'CAUSE IF YOU START MESSING UP ON 'EM, THEY JUST KIND OF YEAH.
BUT ALL THE PIECES COME TOGETHER AND THEY'RE BUILDING UPON ONE ANOTHER.
IT'S, IT'S REALLY BECOMES PART OF THE, THE, THE TOWN'S REPUTATION IN THE, IN THE GRANT WORLD AND, AND, OR WITH THE DEPARTMENT STATE.
IT'S, IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
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MM-HMMTHIS IS ALSO SOMETHING, UM, THERE'S A, A KBS, UM, OUR ACCOUNTING SOFTWARE UPGRADE THAT'S AVAILABLE THAT WE WOULD HAVE MORE OF A RECEIVABLE MODULE THAT WE COULD KEEP TRACK DIRECTLY OF GRANT EXPENSES VERSUS GRANT REVENUE.
UM, THAT COULD HELP WITH THAT AS WELL.
FOLKS, DO YOU MIND IF WE GOT, WE GOT ABOUT 20 MINUTES OR SO.
UH, CAN I ASK, UH, SEAN KARATE AND, UH, CAMMY TO GIVE US A, A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS HERE? YEAH.
UH, HEY, SEAN, IT'S, UH, JIM, ARE YOU THERE? YES, SIR.
DO YOU WANNA GIVE US A LITTLE UPDATE ON WHAT HAS TRANSPIRED IN THE LAST, UH, 24 HOURS AT HOOVER BEACH? UM, SO VERY RECENTLY AS, UH, RECENT AS I BELIEVE, TWO 30 THIS AFTERNOON WHEN WE GOT POWER BACK IN THE
AND, UM, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE LAST SECTION OF TOWN.
UM, THAT WAS WITHOUT POWER FOR PROLONGED PERIOD.
IT WENT OUT, UM, I BLEW THERE ABOUT POWER NINE OR 10 HOURS OR MAYBE EVEN MORE.
UM, THERE ARE STILL ABOUT 18 RESIDENCES SCATTERED ACROSS THE TOWN BETWEEN
UM, SOME OF THEIR SEA WALLS SUSTAINED SOME PRETTY CATASTROPHIC DAMAGE.
AND THEN OF COURSE, UM, THE HOOVER BEACH COMMUNITY SUSTAINED SOME CATASTROPHIC DAMAGE TO, UH, MULTIPLE HOMES DOWN THAT COMMUNITY.
THE, UM, GREEN WATER THAT WAS INSTALLED RECENTLY, OUR ARMY CORPS ENGINEERS DID HELP SOMEWHAT.
UM, IT'S HARD TO TELL IF IT MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE OR NOT, BASED ON, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WOULD'VE BEEN WITHOUT IT.
SO, UM, THE WIND DIRECTION AND THE, UM, THE STORM SURGE CERTAINLY, UM, WAS VERY POWERFUL.
AND
UM, IT DID HELP, UH, THAT THE TEMPERATURES WERE NOT BELOW FREEZING.
UM, OTHERWISE WE WOULD'VE HAD TO CLOSE THAT SECTION OF ROOF OUT AGAIN.
BUT, UM, THAT, UH, AREA THERE WAS CLEANED UP POST PARKING LOT WHERE THE CLOCK TOWER IS, THEY SUFFERED, UM, THAT, THAT PARKING LOT IS, IS COMPLETELY UNDERMINED IN THAT, UH, NORTHERN SECTION, UM, DUE TO THE, UM, ORIGINAL STORM DAMAGE FROM OVER A YEAR AGO.
SO THEY, UM, THAT PARKING LOT IS, IS IN ROUGH SHAPE THERE.
AND THEN, UM, GOING BACK THROUGH THE HOOVER BEACH COMMUNITY, THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT SPENT THE DAY DOWN THERE MAKING THE ROADS PASSABLE.
THEY STILL HAVE SOME WORK TO DO ON MID SHORE TO GET IT DOWN ALL THE DEBRIS OUT OF THE ROAD.
IT IS, UH, CRUSHED STONE AND SAND THAT'S ON THE ROADWAY NOW, UH, FOR ABOUT A HUNDRED YARD.
UM, BUT THE CRUISER DON WORK AND CLEAN IT UP ALL DAY AND, UM, THE, AT LEAST SO THAT THE RESIDENTS CAN GET THEIR, UH, THEIR CONTRACTORS AND START GETTING SOME OF THEIR RUN THROUGH STORY TRACTORS.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT DOWN THERE.
BUT THERE'S, UH, A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE THERE, YET WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO MAKE ARRANGEMENTS LIKE, LIKE YOU AND I SPOKE EARLIER ABOUT GETTING, UM, THE GARBAGE CONTRACTOR MM-HMM
WE COULD BE, WASTE MANAGEMENT CAN DO A DATE.
LIKE WE DID LAST TIME FOR THEM.
UM, CAMMI, UH, JLL, ARE YOU WITH US? I THOUGHT SO.
CAN YOU HEAR, HEAR ME? YEAH, YEAH.
CAN, UH, I GOT, UH, SOME REPORTS FROM THE FOLKS AT TWIN WILLOWS, AS YOU KNOW, THAT SITS ON THE LAKEFRONT AND THE BREAK WALLS ARE PRETTY LOW THERE.
UH, TWO OF THE NEIGHBORS CALLED UP, EVIDENTLY SOME OF THE REMEDIAL WORK THAT WAS DONE TO THE SINK HOLES, UH, UH, DIDN'T HOLD UP, UH, IN LIGHT OF THE TREMENDOUS WATER SURGE.
SO, UH, I'LL TALK WITH YOU AND MAYBE PAT RYAN ABOUT, UH, WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT LATER IN THE WEEK.
IS THAT ALL RIGHT? YEP, THAT'S FINE.
ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SHARE WITH US THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT WE'RE, WE MAY NOT BE AWARE OF? UH, NO, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANYTHING NEW ON MY END.
UM, HAVE YOU GOT, UH, UH, ANY STAFF IN THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT? UH, NO.
RIGHT NOW, THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, UM, UH, IT HAD, HAD, HAD TOWN HALL BEEN OPEN.
UH, WOULD'VE JUST BEEN JANE RIGHT NOW.
UM, I, I PUT A CALL INTO BOB TODAY TO SEE WHAT HIS SEX WAS AS FAR AS GETTING HIS COVID TEST.
HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TESTED, I BELIEVE, ON FRIDAY.
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ALRIGHTY.NO EMERGENCY INSPECTIONS NEED TO BE DONE, DO YOU KNOW? NO, UH, NOT AT THIS TIME.
UH, WE WERE ABLE TO POSTPONE ANYTHING AND I TOLD JANE TO LET ME KNOW AS SOON AS ANYTHING COMES UP THAT IS, UH, YEAH, ANY KIND OF TONGUE SENSITIVE OR EMERGENCY ITEM.
UH, ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO TALK WITH ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR THE MEETING TO START? ANYTHING YOU WANT? THOSE TWO WERE THE ONES I HAVE IN MIND.
SINCE WE HAVE TIME, I GOT MORE, OH, GEEZ, WE'RE OUTTA TIME.
UM, WE, OH, I TALKED TO DREW RILEY, I TALKED TO MARK ETTE, HAS BEEN WORKING ON THE CONSERVATION, UH, YEAH.
UM, SO WE MET ABOUT A MONTH AGO, THREE OF US, AND, UH, CIRCLED BACK WITH BOTH OF THEM RECENTLY.
SO WE'RE HOPING TO MAKE SOME PROGRESS IN TERMS OF, UM, THE GOAL WOULD BE MAYBE THE END OF THE FIRST QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR TO HAVE THE LANGUAGE, 18 MILE CREEK, THAT AREA, THE CONSERVATION, UH, THEY, FOR YEARS, THE CONSERVATION BOARD, WHEN I MET WITH 'EM AS A LIAISON, UH, THEIR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IS TO PASS, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME, UH, BETTER RULES AND REGULATIONS TO GOVERN, UH, THAT, TO PROTECT THAT AREA.
UM, THERE, THERE'S A BIG CONCERN WITH THAT AREA THAT SOME OF THE, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE BUILDING AND SOME OF THE, UH, USAGE OF THAT AREA, UH, IF IT'S NOT DONE PROPERLY, IS GOING TO UNDERMINE THE, UM, THE STRENGTH, THE, THE MM-HMM.
OF THE 18 MILE CREEK, THE SHORELINE.
UM, AND SO I THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD, PROACTIVE WAY, UM, TO PREVENT EROSION AND, AND TO DO WHAT WE CAN.
UH, BUT IT'S GONNA TAKE TIME AND, AND OBVIOUSLY I'VE, I'VE TOLD HIM WE WANNA WORK WITH DREW BECAUSE HE KNOWS THAT, UH, INSIDE AND OUT IN TERMS OF WHAT THE CORRECT LANGUAGE FOR THAT, UM, RESOLUTION WOULD BE.
THEY WERE LIKE TWO YEARS AGO THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE GETTING TOGETHER ON THIS.
THEY STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN TOGETHER ON THIS.
UH, YEAH, WELL THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
I, I SAID, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY, IF, IF YOU WANT THIS, WE'VE GOTTA REALLY JUST WORK TOGETHER AND GET IT DONE AND, AND COME UP WITH A DEADLINE.
AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REASON WAS, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, I'M PRETTY FOCUSED TO TRY TO SEE IT THROUGH THE FINISH LINE.
ANY THOUGHTS OR, BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, BEING NEW, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS, YEAH, AGAIN, THEY'VE SAID IT'S BEEN OUT THERE FOR YEARS, BUT AS FAR AS AT THE BOARD LEVEL, I'M NOT QUITE FAMILIAR.
I, I KNOW THAT, UH, MARK WAS REAL HOT ON, ON THE CONSERVATION AREA THERE NEAR THE CROOK AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UH, AND I AGREED, UM, BUT YOU NEED SOMEONE TO PUT IT TOGETHER.
AND I SWORE TWO YEARS AGO WE AUTHORIZED, YOU KNOW, FOR DREW TO DO THIS.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE LWRP? NO.
OR SOMETHING ELSE FROM THE, OTHER THAN THAT, UM, THE GREEN WHITE CEA IT'S CALLED.
AND, UH, CONSERVATION EASEMENT OR WHATEVER MM-HMM
UH, ALONG THE, UH, UH, CRICK FOR, AT ML CRICK AND, UH, YEAH.
I THOUGHT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO, SUPPOSED TO GO ON THAT.
SO IT'S STILL OUT THERE, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S THAT MUCH WORK TO BE DONE.
I JUST THINK IT NEEDS TO GET FINALIZED.
YOU KNOW, WE CAN DEBATE IT PUBLIC MEETING AND OR, AND GET IT DONE.
AND THEN THAT CAN BECOME AGAIN, WE'LL ADDED TO ALL THE DOCUMENTS THAT WILL BE PART OF THE CONFERENCE OF FLINT.
SO THESE TYPE OF EVENTS, HAVING THIS HAPPEN OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT YEAR ARE, ARE VERY HELPFUL.
WE'LL DEFINITELY, UH, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL THAT I'VE IDENTIFIED NOW, UM, IS END OF THE FIRST QUARTER NEXT YEAR.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE WE, WE'VE GOT THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT.
COVID, WELL, JUST IN GENERAL, THE GENERAL PROPOSITION IS, IS THAT, UH, IT APPEARS FROM THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE THAT WE, IN HAMBURG, OF THE DUBIOUS DISTINCTION OF HAVING THE, THE GREATEST NUMBER OF CASES PER CAPITA WITHIN THE COUNTY, UH, THE COUNTY, UH, CONFIRMED 381 CASES, UH, FOR THE WEEK ENDING 1114, WHICH WAS SATURDAY.
UH, THERE WERE 6,261 TESTS, 3 81 CONFIRMED CASES, A DAILY POSITIVITY RATE OF 6.1%.
OUR SEVEN DAY AVERAGE RATE IS 6.8%, WHICH IS THE HIGHEST IN THE, IN THE STATE.
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ZONE, A YELLOW ZONE.NOW, TO BE IN THE RED ZONE, UH, YOU'VE GOTTA HAVE A POSITIVITY RATE OF OVER 4% FOR 10 STRAIGHT DAYS.
AND, UH, UH, AND IF YOU ALSO SHOW, UH, 10 MORE NEW CA 10 CASES, NEW CASES A DAY, UH, PER 100,000 RESIDENTS FOR SEVEN DAYS, YOU GET INTO, UH, THE RED ZONE AS WELL.
AND THE RED ZONE IS EVEN MORE STRINGENT THAN THE ORANGE ZONE.
SO WE'D BE BACK TO WHERE WE ARE.
WERE IN LATE MARCH, EARLY APRIL, GOD FORBID.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I THOUGHT ABOUT DOING, UH, I'M SURE YOU WOULD AUTHORIZE ME TO DO THIS, IS TO WRITE TO, UH, HIGGINS AND TO, UH, UH, JACOBS, UH, FOR WHATEVER GOOD IT'LL DO.
UH, AND, AND PERHAPS EVEN, UH, OUR CONGRESS REP, CONGRESSIONAL REPRESENTATIVE TOM REED ON THE SOUTHERN TIER.
WE GOTTA GET BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF THE YEAR SOME FEDERAL STIMULUS MONEY TO HELP BUSINESSES AND TO HELP FAMILIES THAT ARE ON UNEMPLOYMENT OR A LOT OF UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS, UH, AND TO HELP STATES AND TOWNS, WHICH, AND COUNTIES, WHICH ARE PRETTY MUCH BROKE.
UH, SO I'LL, UH, PUT, IT'S LIKE WHISTLING IN THE DARK, I SUPPOSE.
DOESN'T MAKE A HECK OF A LOT OF DIFFERENCE.
UH, BUT, UH, BUT AS WELL, TELL 'EM HOW DESPERATELY WE NEED SOME KIND OF ACTION.
UH, WE DON'T WANT TO WAIT TILL JANUARY THE 20TH.
UH, THEN, UH, IT'S INTO FEBRUARY, MARCH, AND APRIL.
THE AWFUL WATER WOULD BE AN AWFULLY ROUGH WINTER WITHOUT SOME FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE FOR SOME PEOPLE.
UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW SOME OF OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES ARE GONNA MAKE IT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE MAKING IT NOW AS IT IS.
YOU HAVE A RESTAURANT, THEY CAN ONLY HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF STAFF.
THE DESTRUCTION THAT'S GONNA COME OUT OF THIS IS GONNA BE INCREDIBLE.
I MEAN, YOU COULD SEE IT, YOU COULD SEE IT.
THE SMALL BUSINESS PERSON IS, IS GONNA BE IN REALLY ROUGH SHAPE, NOT TO INCLUDE EVERYBODY ELSE.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GONNA BE GOOD.
NO, IT IS NOT GOING TO BE GOOD.
AND, UH, SO I'LL JUST SEND THE DAMN LETTER, YOU KNOW, UH, POUND THE TABLE, BUT IT DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, CAN'T HURT.
IT CERTAINLY MAY NOT HELP MUCH, BUT IT CAN'T HURT.
BUT IT, IT IS PRETTY DISTRESSING THAT WE'RE BACK TO A PRETTY HIGH RATE AGAIN.
UH, AND ACCORDING TO ALL OF THE SCIENTIFIC EXPERTS WE'RE COMING INTO, THE NEXT TWO OR THREE MONTHS ARE GONNA BE THE WORST OF ALL.
A QUARTER OF A MILLION PEOPLE ARE DEAD, ALMOST IN OUR COUNTRY.
UM, SOME GOOD NEWS THAT INTERSPERSED WITH ALL THE GLUM NEWS.
UH, WE HAVE REACHED OUT VIA, UH, A DETAILED MEMO TO JUDGE COLAO ON THE MCKINLEY MALL FORECLOSURE.
AND WE'RE INVITED TO COME TO A, UH, PRELIMINARY CONFERENCE WITH THE JUDGE, UH, THE BANK'S ATTORNEYS, THE ATTORNEYS WHO REPRESENT, UH, UH, THE RECEIVER AND SOME MISCELLANEOUS PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE TOWN OF HAMBURG TO TALK ABOUT THE APPOINTMENT OF A REFEREE AND TO, TO CLEAR AWAY, UH, ANY IMPEDIMENTS TO THAT.
THAT IS, OH GEEZ, THE INCUR NEXT WEEK.
I CAN'T REMEMBER, MONDAY OR TUESDAY.
SO AT LEAST WE'RE IN THE BALL GAME, POUNDING THE TABLE THE JUDGE RESPONDED TO WITH OUR MEMO AND THEN INDICATED THAT HE WOULD CALL THIS CONFERENCE TO HAVE A STATUS REVIEW ON THE CASE TO DETERMINE, UH, HOW QUICKLY WE COULD MOVE TO GETTING THE DARN PROPERTY SOLD.
AND ON THAT POINT, I, I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU, I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT IT AND, AND, AND WE NEED TO DEBATE THIS AND, AND WE NEED TO GET DREW INVOLVED, AND WE NEED TO GET WALTER AND MARK WALLING INVOLVED.
WE WANNA DEBATE WHAT DO WE DO IF WE'RE GONNA BE COMING UP MAYBE IN THE SPRING OF THE YEAR TO WHERE A REFEREE IS APPOINTED, LET'S ASSUME.
UH, AND THEN WE GO THROUGH SEVERAL MORE PROCEDURAL HURDLES BEFORE A, A SALE WOULD OCCUR IN AUCTION OR HOWEVER IT'S GONNA BE.
UH, TO ATTRACT THE WIDEST ARRAY OF POTENTIAL BIDDERS IS A GOOD THING FOR US.
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT BOTTOM FEEDER DEVELOPERS WHO ARE THERE TO TEAR IT APART AND GIVE US THE SCRAPS WE MAY WANT.
DREW HAS SUGGESTED THIS, AND WE MAY WANT TO CONSIDER AN INCENTIVE ZONING CONCEPT.
REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, SEAN? MM-HMM
AND BETH, YOU AND I THINK I TALKED ABOUT IT AS WELL,
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AND, UH, I'VE ASKED MARK WALLING TO WORK WITH, UH, DREW TO COME UP WITH AN OUTLINE AND A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT LOCAL LAWS.THE IDEA IS, AS YOU KNOW, I THINK WE WOULD, WE'D BE SAYING TO POTENTIAL DEVELOPERS, LOOK, WE HAVE AN OPEN-ENDED ZONING PLAN FOR THE MCKINLEY MALL AND THE PERIPHERAL TAXABLE PARCELS AROUND THEM THAT SURROUND THE MALL.
THAT IS, WE'LL CONSIDER ANYTHING YOU WANT TO DO AS BEING LEGITIMATE.
WE WANT CERTAIN THINGS FROM YOU IN RETURN, SUCH AS MAYBE MORE JOBS OR SOME, UH, IMPROVEMENTS TO THE FACADES OF THE BUILDINGS, OR WHATEVER THE CASE MIGHT BE.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE GIVE, WE ATTRACT PERHAPS DEVELOPERS WHO WANT TO DO MIXED RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL OFFICE PARK, SENIOR CITIZENS THINGS, SPORTS FACILITIES, NOT JUST THE OLD C TWO BOX STORES, WHICH DON'T HAVE MUCH CACHET ANYMORE.
SO IT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
WE'VE GOT THOSE FELLOWS, UH, WORKING ON IT, AND WE'LL KICK THAT AROUND PROBABLY, UH, BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR WITH A VIEW TO GETTING A PUBLIC HEARING AND GETTING PEOPLE INVOLVED.
UH, IT MAY JUST BE SOMETHING WE NEED TO ATTRACT REAL INTEREST ON A NATIONAL BASIS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.
IT'S LIKE THE GUY THAT, UH, IT'S LIKE THE GUY THAT WENT TO LIKE THE, THE GUY THAT'S, UH, WORKING IN THE NIGHTCLUB.
HE'S GOT JOKES AND, UH, THE AUDIENCE IS LAPPING.
HE'S GOT NO MORE JOKES THAN HE
THAT'S WHEN THEY COME WITH THE BEST JOKE.
YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A TIME WAY BACK WHEN, WHEN ACTUALLY THE WORK SESSIONS USUALLY FINISHED QUITE BEFORE THE BOARD MEETINGS DID.
AND THEN PEOPLE GO TO THEIR OFFICES OR, UH, UH, MAKE PHONE CALLS AND SOME, I REMEMBER WORK SESSIONS THAT WENT LONGER THAN YEAH, THE LONGEST DAY.
I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW, I'M KIND OF HAVING A TOUGH TIME HEARING SOME OF YOU, SO IT'S KIND OF AN I'M SORRY TO PARTICIPATE, BUT I AM HERE AND I APPRECIATE YOU ACCOMMODATING ME.
FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW, I AM QUARANTINING, UM, UNTIL THE 28TH, I WAS IFIED AS A CLOSE CONTACT TO A POSITIVE CASE.
SO, UM, I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS ACCOMMODATING ME SO THAT I CAN FOLLOW PROTOCOL.
DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU, UH, WANTED TO DISCUSS? UH, UM, NOT IN PARTICULAR.
I THINK I, I WAS ON BOARD WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED IN THE WORK SESSION.
UM, YOU KNOW, JUST THE, THE COVID REGULATIONS OBVIOUSLY WE'RE, WE'RE AT THE TOP OF THE LIST AND HAMBURG WITH RECENT CASES.
UM, AND FROM MY OWN EXPERIENCE, I'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN WEARING A MASK SINCE MARCH AND CAN'T
UM, AND I STILL WAS EXPOSED TO SOMEBODY.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST THAT, THAT REMINDER OF VIGILANCE FOR EVERYBODY BECAUSE IT, IT'S BECOME CLEAR IN THE PAST COUPLE WEEKS THAT IT IS EVERYWHERE.
WE'LL TRY, I'LL TRY TO SPEAK UP MORE.
ACTUALLY, I'M HAVING A HARD TIME WITH MIKE AND SEAN FOR SOME REASON.
I CAN HEAR YOU ON BUFF JUST FINE.
IS IT MORE RATIONAL? I DON'T ANYTHING YOU GUYS ARE DOING.
YOU LET ME KNOW WHEN IT'S TIME TO GO THEN.
YOU, UH, CLOSE THIS SESSION OUT THERE? YEAH, I GUESS WE CAN MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE WORK SESSION.
JENNIFER, HOW'S YOUR LITTLE SON DOING? WELL, I WENT DOWN THE WHOLE BOOK FLATS ON SATURDAY.
I WENT TO THE WHOLE BUCK FLATS ON SATURDAY DOWN IN 18 MILE CREEK WHERE I TOLD YOU OUT THERE.
IT WAS LIKE WHEN I WAS A KID, THE CARS WERE ALL UP THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, UP THE SIDE.
I COULDN'T BELIEVE HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE THERE.
THERE'S NO WATER IN THE C CREEK, BUT I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY OUT THERE JUST GOING OUT IN THE WOODS.
YEAH, BUT THEY'RE NOT RIGHT NOW.
YOU CAN, BUT THERE'S STILL PEOPLE OUT THERE.
BUT I THINK THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING OUT, UH,
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NOT FROM HAMBURG, BUT FROM OTHER AREAS JUST TO COME OUT AND GET OUT IN THE WOODS, YOU KNOW? BUT WHEN I WAS A KID, YOU COULDN'T PARK ANYWHERE ON THAT ROAD GOING UP.THAT'S HOW WHEN I PULLED IN SATURDAY, IT WAS LIKE 11 O'CLOCK.
AS SOON AS I MADE THE TURN, THERE WERE CARS ALL ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE.
THAT
IT'S, UH, YOU CAN ENTER IT IN THE OTHER SIDE,
AND AS SOON AS YOU TOOK THE TURN DOWN, THERE WERE CAR, THERE HAD TO BEEN 40 CARS DOWN THERE.
BUT I WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE LOOKING AT HIM.
MUSHROOM HUNTERS SPOT FOR MUSHROOM.
I WAS TELLING WAL THERE'S A NICE WATER FLOW BACK THERE, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T TAKE PICTURES WITH THE KIDS.
YOU KNOW, WE ACTUALLY, I THINK WE HAD A PHOTOGRAPHER GO WITH US FOR THE PICTURES THE ONE TIME, BUT, UH, FOR FISHING RIGHT NOW, NOT SO GOOD.
A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, THE, THE WATER WAS OKAY, IT'S TOO LOW, BUT NOW IT'S, YEAH.
IT'S FUNNY HOW IT JUST, IT WILL FLUCTUATE LIKE THAT.
WELL, IT, IT, THE MOUTH, THE WATER IS ACTUALLY GOING UP UPSTREAM.
BUT THAT WAS AT SEVEN 30 THIS MORNING.
UH, BRAD, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE? SURE.
ALL PRESENT AND ACCOUNT FOR SIR.
UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU WOULD BE KIND ENOUGH TO RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE FIRST THING ON THE AGENDA IS THE, UH, CALLING OF A PUBLIC HEARING.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, CONVENE A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, GIVEN THE FACT THAT IT'S NOW 7:00 PM ON 1116.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND.
WE ARE NOW IN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I GUESS THE LAW REQUIRES ME TO READ THIS, SO I WILL DO IT.
PLEASE TAKE NOTICE THAT THERE HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG ON 11 2 20.
PURSUANT TO REAL PROPERTY TAX LAW, A PROPOSED LOCAL LAW TO BE KNOWN AS PROPOSED LOCAL LAW, NUMBER SEVEN YEAR 2020, THIS LOCAL LAW AUTHORIZES THE ADOPTION OF THE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT EXEMPTION LAW PURSUANT TO SECTION 45 DASH B OF THE REAL PROPERTY TAX LAW.
THE TOWN BOARD HEREBY PROPOSES TO ENACT THE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT EXEMPTION LAW END QUOTE, AS PROPOSED LOCAL LAW NUMBER SEVEN OF 2020, PROVIDING AS FOLLOWS.
SECTION ONE, THIS LOCAL LAW USING SECTION 4 85 B OF THE REAL PROPERTY TAX LAW, AUTHORIZES A PARTIAL EXEMPTION FROM REAL PROPERTY TAXATION FOR COMMERCIAL BUSINESS OR INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY CONSTRUCTED, ALTERED, INSTALLED, OR IMPROVED ON OR AFTER THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS LAW, THE COST OF SUCH CONSTRUCTION, ALTERATION, INSTALLATION, OR IMPROVEMENT MUST EXCEED $10,000.
ORDINARY MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS DO NOT QUALIFY FOR EXEMPTION.
THE PROPERTY MUST NOT BE RECEIVING OR HAVE RECEIVED, AND THE OTHER EXEMPTION AUTHORIZED BY THE REAL PROPERTY TAX LAW WITH RESPECT TO THE SAME IMPROVEMENTS UNLESS DURING THE PERIOD OF THE PRIOR EXEMPTION PAYMENTS IN LIEU OF TAXES WERE PAID IN AMOUNTS THAT WERE AT LEAST EQUAL TO THE TAXES THAT WOULD'VE BEEN PAID HAD THE PROPERTY BEEN RECEIVING THE 4 85 B EXEMPTION.
THIS LOCAL LAW DOES NOT LIMIT THE EXEMPTION BY SPECIFIC GEOGRAPHIC AREAS AND TO SECTORS AND SUB-SECTORS OF BUSINESS AS DEFINED IN THE NORTH AMERICAN INDUSTRY INDUSTRY CLASSIFICATION SYSTEM.
SECTION TWO, THE COLLOQUIAL NAME OF THIS LOCAL LAW, WHICH IS A TOWN OF HAMBURG ADOPTION AND INFORMATION IMPLEMENTATION OF SECTION 4 85 B OF THE RPTL SHALL BE THE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT EXEMPTION LAW END SECTION THREE, THE DURATION AND AND COMPUTATION OF THE EXEMPTIONS.
THE EXEMPTION IN THE FIRST YEAR IS 50% OF THE INCREASE IN THE ASSESSED VALUE ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE IMPROVEMENT.
THE EXEMPTION AMOUNT THEN DECREASES BY 5% IN EACH OF THE NINE YEARS OF THE NEXT NINE YEARS.
THIS DECLINING PERCENTAGE CONTINUES TO BE APPLIED
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TO THE INCREASE IN ASSESSED VALUE DETERMINED IN THE FIRST YEAR OF THE EXEMPTION, UNLESS THERE IS A CHANGE IN THE LEVEL OF ASSESSMENT FOR AN ASSESSMENT ROLE OF 15% OR MORE.THAT'S CERTIFIED BY THE STATE BOARD OF REAL PROPERTY SERVICES, IN WHICH CASE AN ADJUSTMENT IS REQUIRED.
SECTION FOUR APPLICATION FOR EXEMPTION.
THE EXEMPTION APPLIES TO CHARGES IMPOSED UPON REAL PROPERTY BY OR ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG FOR MUNICIPAL PURPOSES, AND TO SPECIAL AVALOR LEVIES EXCEPT THOSE LEVIED FOR FIRE DISTRICT FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT FOR FIRE ALARM DISTRICT PURPOSES.
THE EXEMPTION DOES NOT APPLY TO COSTS INCURRED FOR ORDINARY MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS OR TO PROPERTY USED PRIMARILY FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES OTHER THAN HOTELS OR MOTELS.
SECTION FIVE, FILING FOR AN EXEMPTION APPLICATION FOR EXEMPTION FROM, UH, TOWN OF HAMBURG TAXES MUST BE FILED USING FORM RP DASH 4 85 DASH B WITH THE TOWN ASSESSOR, NOT THE STATE BOARD OF REAL PROPERTY SERVICES.
SECTION SIX, FILING THE APPLICATION.
THE R THE RP DASH 40 85 DASH B APPLICATION MUST BE FILED IN THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE ON OR BEFORE THE TAXABLE STATUS DATE OF MARCH 1ST, AND WITHIN ONE YEAR FROM THE DATE OF THE COMPLETION OF THE IMPROVEMENTS I, OR SECTION SEVEN EXEMPTION RETENTION CONDITIONS.
ONCE THE EXEMPTION HAS BEEN GRANTED, THE EXEMPTION MAY CONTINUE FOR THE AUTHORIZED PERIOD, PROVIDED THAT THE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS CONTINUE TO BE SATISFIED.
IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO REAPPLY FOR EXEMPTION AFTER THE INITIAL YEAR IN ORDER FOR THE EXEMPTION TO CONTINUE SECTION EIGHT SEVERABILITY.
SHOULD ANY PART OF THIS LOCAL LAW BE ADJUDICATED BY A COURT OF COMPETENT JURISDICTION TO BE INVALID, SUCH ADJUDICATION SHALL NOT AFFECT, IMPAIR OR INVALIDATE.
THE REMAINDER OF THEIR OUTPUT SHALL BE RESTRICTED IN ITS OPERATION, IN EFFECT TO THE PART OF THIS LOCAL LAW, SPECIFICALLY DETERMINED TO BE INVALID.
SECTION NINE, THE EFFECTIVE DATE THIS LOCAL LAW SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY UPON FILING THEREOF IN THE OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY OF STATE, OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK.
THEREFORE, PURSUANT TO THE STATUTES AND PROVISIONS OF THE, OF THE REAL PROPERTY TAX LAW AT THE TOWN BOARD OF TOWN OF HAMBURG WILL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE FORSET LAW AT THE HAMBURG TOWN HALL, 6,100 SOUTH PARK AVENUE, HAMBURG, NEW YORK AT 7:00 PM ON THE 16TH DAY OF NOVEMBER, 2020, AT WHICH TIME ALL INTERESTED PERSONS MAY BE HEARD.
ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS, DEPARTMENT HEADS, OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HERE OR ON THE SCREEN? YES, SIR.
SO SOMETIMES WITH THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYBODY COME IN AND TALK ABOUT IT OR MM-HMM
AND THEN WE VOTE ON IT, AND THAT'S IT.
UH, I THINK RIGHT NOW, UH, FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND, AND THE ONES GOING FORWARD, WHILE WE'RE IN THE TIMES WE ARE IN, UH, I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULDN'T VOTE ON THESE THINGS UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.
WE'RE NOT GONNA VOTE ON THIS TONIGHT.
JUST SOMETIMES WE'VE HAD YEAH.
YOU REALLY SHOULD GIVE YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN.
YOU GIVE THE, UH, THE PEOPLE A CHANCE TO SPEAK UP, AND LET'S SAY THAT WE HAD A LOT OF INTEREST HERE AND THERE WAS FIVE OR SIX FOLKS AND THEY BRING UP THIS SUGGESTION, OR THEY BRING UP THAT SUGGESTION.
OUR PURPOSE THEN IS TO TAKE THESE SUGGESTIONS AND THINK, ALL RIGHT, WHAT THE HECK? WE GOTTA THINK ABOUT THIS, HOW WOULD IT AFFECT IT? RIGHT.
THAT'S WHY IT'S ALWAYS BETTER TO VOTE AT THE NEXT MEETING AFTER YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO CONSIDER IT.
SO I, YEAH, I ANYBODY WANTS TO SAY ANYTHING? OKAY.
CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? I CAN, YES, SIR.
I JUST WANTED TO, UH, TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS PROPOSED, UH, LAW.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, UH, WE WORKED TOGETHER ON THE RETAIL COMMITTEE AND, UH, AND WE DID A SURVEY, SURVEY AND, UH, AND, AND SPENT A LOT OF DUE DILIGENCE ESSENTIALLY TO UNDERSTAND THEIR IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG.
I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT YOUR DAUGHTER HAS TO SAY.
SO, UH, THE, UH, YOU KNOW, NOW, YOU KNOW, FAST FORWARD, UH, OUR, OUR MEETINGS HAVE HAVE SOMEWHAT TABLED DUE TO COVID AND, UH, AND THESE SECTORS OF OUR LOCAL ECONOMY HAVE, HAVE BEEN LAGGING, UH, MORE SO THAN THE INDUSTRIAL SECTOR, WHICH IS THE, THE FOCUS OF, OF MY MY DAYS.
UM, SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE CAN,
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UH, HELP TO BOOST THE LOCAL ECONOMY IN THE, UH, IN THE RETAIL SECTOR, WHICH IS NOT ALLOWED TO BE BOOSTED, UH, THROUGH THE IDA EXEMPTIONS BY STATE LAW.UH, FURTHERMORE, UH, THESE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, IDEALLY THEY WILL CONTINUE TO HAPPEN IN THE NEAR FUTURE, BUT THESE WOULD BE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD ENHANCE TAX VALUE.
SO, UH, THE RESIDENTS OF THIS COUNTY OF HAMBURG WOULD NOT BE RECEIVING, UH, A, A DECREASE IN THE TAX LEVEL.
THIS WOULD BE A NEW INVESTMENT, NEW ASSESSED VALUE THAT WOULD BE BE DISCOUNTED.
SO I THINK IT, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF OUR CURRENT ECONOMY, UH, THAT THIS DOES MAKE A LOT OF SENSE AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DRIVE, UM, IMPROVEMENTS, UH, INTO THE RETAIL SECTOR, BE IT MCKINLEY MALL OR THE MAIN RETAIL CORRIDORS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO, TO BOOST AND DRIVE OCCUPANCY IN THESE, THESE AREAS.
UH, THE, UH, THE TOWN ENACTED A LOCAL, I'M SORRY, THE TOWN ENACTED A LOCAL LAW SIMILAR TO THIS BACK, UH, I THINK IN THE, IN THE 1970S UPON THE COLLAPSE OF BETHLEM STEEL AND OTHER SMOKESTACK INDUSTRIES.
UH, IT WAS REPEALED IN 1991 SIMPLY BECAUSE RETAIL WAS BOOMING AND WE DIDN'T THINK WE HAD TO DO IT.
THE PLAZAS WERE FULL, THE MALL WAS SMOKING, AND, UH, THE COUNTY KEPT THEIRS IN PLACE, UH, FOR THE LAST 30, 40 YEARS.
WE CAN ALSO INVITE, UH, AND ONCE THIS IS ADOPTED, UH, WITH YOUR PERMISSION, I'LL SEND OUT A LETTER TO THE SUPERINTENDENTS OF OUR TWO SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
IF THEY WANNA ADOPT THIS, THEY CAN DO IT BY A SIMPLE RESOLUTION OF THEIR BOARDS.
SO THAT MEANS THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER WHO MAKES THESE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS CAN REALLY GET A DECENT BANG, UH, ON TAX SAVINGS FOR THE BENEFIT OF, OF UNDERTAKING THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.
I MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
KAREN, YOU'RE UP FOR NUMBER FOUR.
THE HAMMER TO BOARD DOES HEREBY APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS AS FOLLOWS.
SECOND, SECOND ON THE QUESTION.
NOW WE HAVE, UH, WE DID THIS ONE ALREADY, AND THIS IS A LOCAL LAW NUMBER NINE FOR THIS PARTICULAR YEAR.
AND WHAT HAPPENED IS WE ADOPTED THE RESOLUTION TO CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, UNFORTUNATELY FOR SOME REASON, THE RELU, THE NOTICE NEVER GOT PUBLISHED, AND YOU CAN'T HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING WITHOUT APPROPRIATE PUBLIC NOTICE.
SO WHEN CONFRONTED WITH THIS INFORMATION, I SAID, WELL, THE RESOLUTION WAS ADOPTED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CONSIDER THIS RESOLUTION ONE MORE TIME AND SET UP A DATE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
WHEREAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF PRESERVING THE PUBLIC PEACE IN GOOD ORDER, AND FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROMOTING HEALTH, SAFETY, AND GENERAL WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING THE PROTECTION AND PRESERVATION OF THE PROPERTY, OF THE TOWN, AND OF ITS INHABITANTS AND PEACE IN GOOD ORDER, FINDS THAT IT IS IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST TO ENACT, UH, THIS CHAPTER, WHICH WILL APPLY WITHIN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, OUTSIDE THE LIMITS OF THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURG AND BLAZEDALE.
AND WHEREAS THIS CHAPTER SHALL BE KNOWN AS THE SPECIAL EVENTS ORDINANCE, AND WHEREAS NO SPECIAL EVENT SHALL TAKE PLACE UNLESS AND UNTIL AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIAL EVENT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE TOWN CLERK AND SUCH PERMIT HAS BEEN ISSUED, THEREBY, AND WHEREAS ANY PERSON, UH, GROUP OF PERSONS, PARTNERSHIPS, ASSOCIATION OR CORPORATION, INDIVIDUALLY OR COLLECTIVELY WHO SHALL VIOLATE OR AID IN, TAKE PART IN, OR ASSIST IN THE VIOLATION OF THIS CHAPTER, SHALL BE GUILTY OF A VIOLATION AND UPON CONVICTION, BE PUNISHED BY A FINE NOT TO EXCEED A THOUSAND BUCKS AS TO AN INDIVIDUAL AND NOT EXCEEDING 5,000 AS TO A CORPORATION.
NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED, THE TOWN OF WAR IS PROPOSING TO ENACT A LOCAL LAW TO BE KNOWN AS PROPOSED LOCAL LAW NUMBER NINE OF 2020, WHICH IS ATTACHED HERE TO WHICH WILL APPLY WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD SETS A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS, PROPOSED ON THIS, ON THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT AT THE HAMBURG TOWN HALL, 6,100 SOUTH PARK AVENUE, UH, HAMBURG, NEW YORK AT
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7:00 PM ON 12 7 20.THAT'S THE MOTION FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? ONE SECOND.
I THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
YOU'RE IN FAVOR? UH OH, SHE SAY AYE.
I HAVE CONCERNS WITH, WITH THE, UM, RESOLUTION ITSELF, BUT I DO WANT TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC AND THAT'S RIGHT WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY.
I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANNA SHORTSTOP THE PUBLIC'S RIGHT TO SPEAK ON THIS.
MR. PETRE IN THE NEGATIVE? THANK YOU.
OKAY, LET'S GET ON TO NUMBER FIVE.
RESOLVE THAT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD, UH, DOES HEREBY APPROVE THE REQUEST OF THE NEW GAIT FIRE COMPANY INC TO PLACE AMONG THEIR RANKS.
THE INDIVIDUAL AS FOLLOWS, MR. THOMAS TOBIN OF 41 22 SHELDON ROAD, ORCHARD PARK, NEW YORK.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? ONE SECOND.
SECOND, MS. PEARL ON THE QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR? A MOTION IS CARRIED.
NUMBER SEVEN IS, UH, PERTAINS TO THE BIG TREE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY.
RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVES THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE FOLLOWING INTO THE BIG TREE VOLUNTEER FIREMAN'S COMPANY, MR. DAN, 39 17 ALLENDALE PARK PARKWAY, LOWER APARTMENT BLAZE ON NEW YORK.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND.
RESOLVED THAT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD DOES HEREBY APPROVE THE REQUEST OF THE LAKE SHORE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY TO CONFIRM MEMBERSHIP UPON THE INDIVIDUAL, UPON THE INDIVIDUAL AS FOLLOWS, MICHAEL JOSEPH CARRERO 34 50 HOWARD ROAD, LOT 42, HAMBURG, NEW YORK.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? ONE SECOND.
SECOND IS, UH, UH, SEAN CONLEY, UH, ON THE QUESTION.
UH, NUMBER NINE, WHERE HAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG OPERATES MANY MUNICIPAL DEPARTMENTS, SERVICES, PROGRAMS AND OPERATIONS, WHICH EMPLOY A GREAT NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS IN A RANGE OF JOB RESPONSIBILITIES.
AND WHEREAS ALL MUNICIPAL DEPARTMENTS ARE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN AND IMPLEMENT SPECIFIC OSHA TRAINING PROGRAMS AND PROTOCOLS AS PER STATE AND NATIONAL LAW AND PROFESSIONAL BEST PRACTICE.
AND WHEREAS ADHERING TO ALL STATE, FEDERAL, AND PROFESSIONAL HEALTH AND SAFETY TRAINING AND PRACTICE REQUIREMENTS IS PARAMOUNT TO ENSURING THAT TOWN EMPLOYEES REMAIN SAFE, EFFECTIVE, EFFECTIVE AND PROTECTED WHILE ON THE JOB.
AND TO ENSURING THAT THE TOWN OF HAM REMAINS IN LEGAL COMPLIANCE.
AND WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG CURRENTLY UTILIZES A HEALTH AND SAFETY MANUAL WRITTEN IN 1991, WHICH COVERS BEST HEALTH AND SAFETY TRAINING REQUIREMENTS FOR TOWN EMPLOYEES.
AND WHEREAS A DRAFT OF AN UPDATED AND VERY COMPREHENSIVE MANUAL WAS CREATED IN 2007 BY A LOCAL COMPANY, OCCUPATIONAL SAFETY, ENVIRONMENTAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL ASSOCIATES, OSEA, WHO WAS NOT FORMALLY ADOPTED BY THE TOWN OF HAMBURG TOWN COUNCIL.
AND WHEREAS OSEA IS CURRENTLY CONTRACTED BY, CONTRACTED BY THE TOWN OF HAMBURG TO PROVIDE OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH AND SAFETY TRAINING AND CONSULTATION TO THE TOWN.
AND WHEREAS AT THE REQUEST OF THE TOWN HEALTH AND SAFETY COORDINATOR, OSEA PROVIDED A PROPOSAL TO UPDATE THE CURRENT DRAFT HEALTH AND SAFETY MANUAL TO REFLECT CURRENT TRAINING PROTOCOL AND PRACTICE REQUIREMENTS FOR ALL TOWN DEPARTMENTS AND JOB DUTIES, AND TO ENSURE TOWN EMPLOYEES ARE FULLY TRAINED AND PROTECTED.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES AND GRANTS PERMISSION FOR THE HEALTH AND SAFETY COORDINATOR TO ACCEPT THE PROPOSAL FROM FULL SEA TO UPDATE THE CURRENT DRAFT HEALTH AND SAFETY MANUAL FOR THE TOTAL COST OF SEVEN $90 FUNDS AVAILABLE IN CS 1710 0.47 OSHA SAFETY AND EDUCATION.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND.
SECOND ON THE BY MS. FERRELL ON THE QUESTION.
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YOU'RE ON FOR NUMBER 10.A RESOLVE THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZED THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO ADVERTISE FOR BID TO NEW AN UNUSED 2024 FUSION S UH, FOUR WHEEL DRIVE SEDAN FUNDING WILL BE AVAILABLE IN 2020.
BUDGET ACCOUNT B 3 1 2 2 0 2 MOTOR VEHICLES ASSET FORFEITURE INSURANCE.
THANK YOU, UH, ON THE QUESTION.
KAREN, WITH YOUR PERMISSION, UH, CAN WE MOVE NUMBER 11 TO THE END OF THE AGENDA? I'LL MOVE TO TABLE THAT.
WILL YOU SECOND THAT PLEASE? SECOND.
NUMBER 12, AWARD BID, UH, FOR 2020 DODGE DURANGO, SXT, UM, THAT THE HAMMER HUM BOARD APPROVED THE PURCHASE OF ONE NEW AND UNUSED 2020 DODGE DURANGO, SXT PLUS ALL-WHEEL DRIVE TO THE LOCATOR GENESEE VALLEY CHRYSLER, DHG BID NUMBER FIVE DASH 2020.
POLICE FOR THE BID PRICE OF $30,000 FUNDING WILL BE AVAILABLE AT A 20 K BUDGET, ACCOUNT FEE, 3 1 20 0.22 MOTOR VEHICLES ASSET FORFEIT TRUCK VEHICLE TRADE IN AGAINST THIS PURCHASE, STILL BEING EVALUATED AND WILL BE AWARDED AT AN EIGHTH, A AFTER TOWN BOARD APPROVAL.
SO MOTION BY KAREN, I HOLD SECOND BY BETH FERRELL ON THE QUESTION.
MOTION CARRIED BE RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVED THE TERMINATION AND HIRING OF PERSONNEL FOR THE YOUTH RECREATION AND SENIOR SERVICES DEPARTMENT, UH, AS PER THE PAF YOUTH REC AND SENIOR SERVICES.
UH, THESE ARE TERMINATIONS AT THE GOLF COURSE.
UM, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG DOES HEREBY ADOPT THE TOWN OF HAMBURG 2021 BUDGET AS PREVIOUSLY FILED BY THE TOWN SUPERVISOR AND KNOWN AS THE SUPERVISOR'S BUDGET SUBJECT TO AMENDMENTS WHICH ARE SET UP BELOW IN THIS RESOLUTION, THERE ARE 16 TOTAL AMENDMENTS, UH, AND THE AMENDMENTS INDICATE A SPENDING DIFFERENTIAL, UH, FOR THE A AND B FUNDS AS INDICATED, $16,000 ADDITIONAL SPENDING IN THE A FUND AND $395,182 IN THE B FUND FOR A TOTAL OF $411,182 DIFFERENTIAL, BRINGING THE AMENDED BUDGET FOR THE A AND B CATEGORIES REFERENCED TO FIVE BID AND $781,990.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, MR. PEACHY'S, ON THE SECOND ON THE QUESTION.
WHO'S THAT? SOUNDS LIKE TED, GO.
I JUST, I JUST WANNA GO ON RECORD OF BEING IN OPPOSITION OF THE BUDGET, UM, BECAUSE IT FAILS FOR A THIRD YEAR IN A ROW TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF THE TAXPAYER AS IT RELATES TO DELIVERY OF SERVICE SERVICES PROVIDED BY THE HIRING DEPARTMENT IS ESPECIALLY TRUE CONSIDERING I PUT TOGETHER A COMPREHENSIVE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT ADDRESSES ALL OF THE TOWN'S POORLY RATED ROADS, AND PUTS US ON A PATH OF MAINTAINING OUR ROADS INSTEAD OF HAVING TO RECONSTRUCT THEM AT SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER COSTS.
THE TAXPAYER, THE PEOPLE WE SERVE, MY PLAN USING CURRENT TAX DOLLARS TO FUND BOND WILL NOT INCREASE HIGHWAY TAXES ONCE CENTS AND WILL ULTIMATELY SAVE TAXPAYERS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OVER THE LIFE OF 15 YEAR PLAN.
BUT SADLY, INSTEAD OF SUPPORTING THE VERY FIRST COMPREHENSIVE PAVEMENT PLAN IN THE HISTORY OF THE TOWN FOR REASONS OR NO REASONS AT ALL, OR GUESS, UH, IN FACT, IT DEFIES LOGIC WHY THE BOARD WOULD BOND 4,000 FOR PARKING LOTS AND ONLY 300,000 FOR THE ROADS.
IT MAKES NO SENSE IS A SLAP IN THE FACE TO THE RESIDENTS.
IT'S WRONG AND IT'S A DISSERVICE TO THE RESIDENTS OF HAM.
AND, AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE WATCHED 60 MINUTES LAST NIGHT AFTER THE BILLS CAME, BUT, UH, THE FORMER PRESIDENT, UH, WHEN HE WAS ASKED, UH, HOW TO, UH, GET RID OF THE GRIDLOCK IN WASHINGTON, HIS RESPONSE WAS, UH, EYE OPENING BECAUSE HE SAID IT ALL STARTS LOCALLY.
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HE SAID IT IS LOCAL GOVERNMENTS THAT HAVE THE REAL DECISION TO MAKE.AND HIS FIRST TWO EXAMPLES WERE PAVING ROADS IN PLOWING STREETS.
SO I'LL ASK THE TOWN BOARD, WHY DOES THE FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES KNOW THE PRIORITY OF THE ESSENTIAL SERVICES PROVIDED BY THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT? AND THIS BOARD SEEMINGLY DOES NOT.
UM, THE MOTION IS BEFORE US HAS BEEN SECONDED.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THE BUDGET AS SUBMITTED.
JIM, COULD I COMMENT ON IT FOR ONE SECOND? NO, I, NO, WE HAD A PUBLIC HEARING.
THERE WERE TIME FOR COMMENTS ON THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I LET HIM SPEAK ANY ANYWAY OUT OF HIS SENSE OF COURTESY TO HIM.
THE MOTION IS BEFORE US ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
UH, AT THIS POINT, UH, KAREN, IF YOU DON'T MIND, WOULD YOU BE KIND ENOUGH TO INTER REINTRODUCE THE TABLE ITEM, UH, BID AWARD NUMBER 11? YEAH,
NUMBER 11, AWARD BID FOR 2021 DODGE CHARGER PURSUIT V SIX.
REASONABLE SINCE BOARD APPROVED THE PURCHASE OF THE FIVE NEW AND UNUSED 2021 DODGE CHARGER.
PURSUIT V SIX VEHICLES TO THE LOAN BID.
GENESEE VALLEY CHRYSLER DODGE, JEEP NUMBER FOUR DASH 2020.
POLICE FOR THE BID PRICE OF $28,340 PER UNIT TO THE GRAND TOTAL OF $141,700 FUNDING WILL BE AVAILABLE IN THE 2021 BUDGET ACCOUNT B 3 1 2 2 2 MOTOR VEHICLE TRADE IN OR MOTOR VEHICLES TRADES AGAINST THIS PURCHASE ARE STILL BEING EVALUATED AND WILL BE AWARDED AT A LATER THING AFTER TOM BOARD APPROVAL.
WHEREAS EMPLOYEES THROUGHOUT THE TOWN OF HAMBURG HAVE CONSISTENTLY WORKED UNDER THE MOST DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES OCCASION BY THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC.
AND THOSE DIFFICULTIES PERSIST TO THE DATE OF THIS RESOLUTION.
AND WHEREAS A NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES WHO ARE MEMBERS OF COLLECTIVE BARGAINING UNITS WITHIN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, IN ADDITION TO DEPARTMENT HEADS AND MANAGERIAL CONFIDENTIAL EMPLOYEES HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO UTILIZE VACATION TIME PURSUANT TO CONTRACTS OR PAST PRACTICE AS A RESULT OF THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC.
AND NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE SUPERVISOR IS AUTHORIZED TO ENTER INTO MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENTS WITH VARIOUS BARGAINING UNITS FOR UNION EMPLOYEES, AND APPLY THE SAME STANDARD TO DEPARTMENT HEADS AND MANAGERIAL CONFIDENTIAL EMPLOYEES TO PERMIT THE CARRYOVER OF 40 HOURS ONE WEEK OF VACATION TIME, WHICH MUST BE UTILIZED BY ALL EMPLOYEES BETWEEN THE DATES OF 1 1 21 AND 6 1 21, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN OF WILL NOT HONOR ANY REQUESTS FOR COMPENSATION IN LIEU OF THE EXERCISE OF THE ADDITIONAL 40 HOURS OF VACATION TIME TO BE CARRIED OVER INTO THE NEW YEAR AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT ENTERING INTO AGREEMENTS IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE SHALL NOT BE DEEMED AS ESTABLISHING A PRECEDENT OR PAST PRACTICE, WHICH MAY CARRY OVER INTO SUBSEQUENT CALENDAR YEARS.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND.
SECOND BY MR. PET? A QUESTION? ALL IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
KAREN, HAVE A QUESTION? YES, KAREN? I'M SORRY.
WHO IS IT? I THINK IT WAS TODD.
IS, UH, TED, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YEAH.
UH, TED, THE QUESTION IS GENERALLY ON THE QUESTIONS RELATED TO BOARD MEMBERS ONLY.
WHAT DO YOU WANNA SAY? WELL, I THOUGHT THE QUESTION WAS RELATED TO ANYONE THAT HAD A QUESTION.
NOW THIS IS HISTORICALLY WHAT I DO IS I ASK QUESTIONS RELATIVE TO RESOLUTION.
MY, MY QUESTION IS, UM, DO WE KNOW IF ANY OF THESE WORKERS ARE IN THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT, BLUE COLLAR UNIT UNIONS ARE IN THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT, BLUE COLLAR WORKERS, HIGHWAY AND B AND G? YES, SIR.
WHAT, UM, MY, MY QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY WEEKS OF VACATION ARE WE TALKING ABOUT IN THE HIGHWAY? 40 HOURS ONE WEEK.
ONE WEEK TO BE EXERCISED BETWEEN JUNE, JANUARY THE FIRST
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AND JUNE 1ST FOR ANY EMPLOYEE WHO COULD NOT UTILIZE HIS OR HER VACATION OWING TO THE PANDEMIC IN THIS YEAR.WHAT, BUT MY QUESTION SPECIFICALLY, HOW MANY PEOPLE DOES THAT AFFECT IN THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT? AND THE REASON WE ASK IS THAT BASED UPON THE MAGNITUDE OF IT, IT COULD HAVE SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE FUNCTION OF THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT DURING THE WINTER MONTHS.
WELL, HERE'S, HERE'S THE CIRCUMSTANCE.
IT, THE RESOLUTION SAYS THAT THE TOWN HAS TO ENTER INTO A MEMORANDUM OF YOUR AGREEMENT WITH EACH OF THE UNIONS.
AND IT ONLY SAYS THAT THE VACATIONS MUST TAKE EFFECT WITHIN THE FIRST FIVE MONTHS OF THE CALENDAR YEAR, THE, THE ONE WEEK VACATIONS.
THEREFORE, UH, BASED ON THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT, WE'LL LOOK AT SENIORITY AND WE'LL LOOK AT EACH DEPARTMENT'S NEEDS, UH, BEFORE WE SIMPLY GRANT CARTE BLANCHE TO EVERYBODY WHO MAKES A REQUEST FOR A CERTAIN WEEK OR TWO.
YEAH, I MEAN, BECAUSE YOU CAN WELL IMAGINE THAT IF EVERYONE IN THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT WAS ENTITLED TO THAT A WEEK, THAT WOULD BE 31 WEEKS, UH, WITHIN THE FIRST FIVE MONTHS OF THE YEAR.
UH, I THINK THAT WOULD GET DETRIMENTAL TO THE FUNCTION OF THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT DURING THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THE YEAR FOR US.
WELL, WE ALSO, UH, AS I INDICATED TO YOU, WE CAN GOVERN THROUGH MOAS WHEN THE VACATION TIME THAT WEEK'S TIME IS TO BE UTILIZED.
AND SO IT MAY BE UTILIZED, LET'S SAY IN THE THIRD WEEK OF MARCH TO THE FIRST WEEK IN JUNE, WHICH YOU INDICATED LAST SPRING.
AT THIS TIME, LAST SPRING WAS YOUR DEPARTMENT'S DOWNTIME.
UH, ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
I'M NOT SURE IT'S CONSIDERED OUR DOWNTOWN, BUT I GUESS, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE IN THE HEART AFFECTS OR NOT? IT AFFECTS EVERYONE WHO HASN'T HAD A CHANCE TO UTILIZE HIS OR HER VACATION OWING TO THE PANDEMIC.
WE'LL GET INTO SPECIFICS LATER.
I'M ASKING FOR YOU CAN TELL ME THE HARD NUMBER.
WELL, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD THIS RESOLUTION.
WELL THEN YOU SHOULD READ THE AGENDAS WHEN THEY COME OUT.
YOU TO REACH OUT TO ME PRIOR TO PUTTING THIS FORWARD.
WELL, WE WANNA MAINTAIN GOOD RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR WORKFORCE.
UH, ANYTHING ELSE? AND I ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE DELIVERY OF SERVICES FOR THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT HAPPENS FOR THE RESIDENTS.
ALRIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE? NO, WE DON'T, NOT THIS WEEK.
UM, YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE AN AUDIT OF CASH DISBURSEMENT SINCE.
WE ARE NOT ABLE TO COMPILE THE INFORMATION.
ALRIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, DEPARTMENT HEADS, ANYTHING? I'M NOT SURE WHO'S HERE AND WHO ISN'T HERE.
UH, SPEAK UP OR SPEAK UP NOW, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
I CAN SPEAK FIRST SINCE I'M HERE.
I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE BOARD.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS THAT WE'VE HAD A UNANIMOUS VOTE, UM, ON THE BUDGET.
AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO FEEDBACK FROM ALL OF YOU AS TO HOW YOU THINK THE BUDGET PROCESS CAN BE IMPROVED IN FUTURE YEARS.
BUT OVERALL, I THINK WE DID A REALLY GOOD JOB AT IMPROVING THINGS, UM, FROM LAST YEAR.
AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO AND ALSO I ALL YOUR HARD WORK.
MONTHLY, UM, REPORTS THAT WE'RE GETTING BUDGET MONITORING.
YES, THE BUDGET MONITORING HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL AND I LOOK FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO UTILIZE THOSE DOCUMENTS WITH YOU AND WITH DISCUSSIONS, UM, WITH THE BOARD GOING FORWARD SO WE CAN MAKE FURTHER IMPROVEMENTS.
SO THE, THE HOPE IS NOW, UM, I ALREADY HAVE THE YEAR END STUFF SENT, UM, READY TO BE SENT OUT TO THE DEPARTMENTS NOW THAT THE BUDGET PROCESS IS OVER.
UM, I GUESS THAT'S UP TO THE BOARD AS FAR AS NOVEMBER.
I CAN DO A BUDGET MONITORING THROUGH NOVEMBER.
I GUESS I'M WONDERING IF YOU GUYS THINK THAT THAT WILL BE INCREDIBLY USEFUL OR IF YOU'D JUST RATHER WAIT UNTIL I HAVE TENTATIVE NUMBERS THROUGH DECEMBER TO DO ONE AFTER THAT.
SO THEN MOVING FORWARD, THE PROCESS WILL BE, WE'LL DO, WE'LL HAVE ONE AT YEAR END.
UH, ADJUSTMENTS WILL STILL HAVE TO BE MADE, OF COURSE.
AND THEN NORMALLY WE REALLY DON'T START THE BUDGET MONITORING TILL MARCH OR APRIL, UM, JUST BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH INFLUX AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.
UM, SO THEN YOU'LL LOOK TO HAVE ONE MARCH OR APRIL THE LAST SALES TAX PAYMENT.
WHEN'S THAT, UH, DUE TO COME IN DECEMBER? NO, WE WON'T GET THAT UNTIL JANUARY.
UM, BUT AS SOON AS I GET I, WITH SALES TAX AND WITH MORTGAGE TAX, I'VE BEEN SENDING OUT EMAILS AND THAT ANALYSIS EVERY TIME WE GET ONE IN.
SO YOU GUYS WILL BE THE FIRST TO
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KNOW THE, UH, HOPEFULLY GOOD NEWS.UH, JENNIFER, ANYTHING FROM YOU? NOTHING TO REPORT.
BRAD, HOW ABOUT YOU? UH, JUST THAT, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE DOWN TO PEOPLE.
UM, UH, FOR HIPAA REASONS, UH, I, I WON'T GIVE WHY WE'RE DOWN, BUT IT'S, UH, TOO HEALTH, UH, RELATED.
I HOPE YOUR MOM IS DOING WELL.
WE'RE ALL PULLING HER TO SEE HER REAL.
SO SHE HAD, SHE HAD SURGERY UNDERNEATH SHE'S HIP.
WELL, IT'S BEEN ALL OVER THE PLANE.
WALTER, ANYTHING FROM YOU SIR? NOTHING REPORT.
ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM YOU SHAW? YES, SIR.
I JUST WANTED, THIS IS THE ASSESSOR, DAN STANFORD.
I APOLOGIZE, I, I APOLOGIZE I DIDN'T GET TO, UH, UH, SPEAK ON, UH, UH, ON YOUR EXEMPTION, BUT I ALSO AM IN FAVOR OF IT.
HEY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DAN.
I'M SORRY THAT WE HAD A KEEP YOU WAITING ALL THIS TIME.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
BOARD MEETING OR COURT? UH, NO BOARD MEETING.
OH, WE JUST, YOU, YOU WE'RE JUST ABOUT TO END IT.
YOU WANT TO TALK TO US ABOUT SOMETHING? YES, WE DO.
WE JUST IN TIME FOR THE PUBLIC REPORT.
WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? ALRIGHT, COME ON IN.
IT'S ALL ONE MEETING, SO, ALL RIGHT, WELL, FINE.
UH, I'M GONNA LET HER GO FIRST.
YOU KIND OF GOT THE BACKGROUND ON, ON THIS.
CAN YOU SPEAK YOUR NAME? ARE YOU ON THE NORTH SIDE? UH, NICOLE? YES.
AND ADDRESS, PLEASE? 3 7 8 4 HOOVER ROAD.
UM, SO WE LIVE NEAR DO THE LAKE, UM, AND WE HAVE A COUPLE CONCERNS REGARDING THEM.
THAT ONE WOULD BE THE DESTRUCTION OF OUR BEACH FROM THE ILLEGAL DUMPING OF CONCRETE AND REBAR TO FILL IN THEIR RAMP THAT'S ALREADY DESTROYED FROM OTHER STORMS. PREVIOUS TO THIS, UM, WE, UM, THE OCTOBER STORM LAST YEAR ABOUT, I WOULD SAY 50% OF THAT RAMP BROKE UP AND ENDED UP ON OUR BEACH.
THEN ON MARCH WE STARTED CLEANING UP BY HAND, THE THREE OF US.
HE ALSO LIVES ON HOOVER BEACH.
UM, THEN THE NEIGHBOR CLOSEST TO DO ON THE LAKE ASKED THEM, ASKED DOS IF THEY COULD CLEAN IT UP.
THEY CLEANED UP HER BEACH WHEN ASKED IF THEY COULD DO OURS, THEY SAID NO.
SO ALL THEY DID WAS REMOVE THE DEBRIS, PILE IT UP INTO A GIANT CONCRETE PILE.
THE NEIGHBOR WHO ASKED HIM TO REMOVE IT SAID, CAN YOU PLEASE GET RID OF THAT PILE BECAUSE ANOTHER STORM'S GONNA COME AND IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT EVEN WORSE.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.
SO ON NOVEMBER 3RD, JUST RECENTLY, WE HAD A LARGE WIND STORM.
IT DESTROYED AN EVEN LARGER MAJORITY OF THE RAMP, WHICH I HAVE PICTURES ON THERE.
THEY, THAT PILE WAS THEN THROWN AGAINST OUR BRAKE WALL DURING THE STORM, AND THIS PAST YESTERDAY, STORM THROUGH THEM AGAINST OUR BRAKE WALL AGAIN.
SO THEY HAVE PRETTY SEVERE DAMAGE ON OUR CONCRETE BREAK, BREAK WALL.
UM, WE HAVE TRIED TO RESOLVE THIS PROBLEM IN INTERNALLY WITH THE RESTAURANT.
WE ASKED THEM TO, WE, SO THE NEIGHBOR TOLD THE OWNERS ABOUT IT.
THE OWNER SAID THEY WOULD COME AND REMOVE THE CONCRETE AND THEN TOTALLY REMOVE IT.
WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING FROM THEM SINCE.
AND THEN LAST NIGHT'S STORM REALLY JUST DESTROYED IT.
SO NOW THE, ALL THAT REBAR AND CONCRETE HAS MOVED EVEN FURTHER DOWN THE BEACH TO HIS HOUSE HERE.
SO HE LIVES TWO DOORS AWAY FROM US.
UM, AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS PROBABLY HALF OF WHAT'S ACTUALLY IN THE LAKE.
AND WE, LAST SUMMER REMOVED A LOT OF DEBRIS AND REBARB FROM THE LAKE BY HAND SWIMMING, YOU WOULD RUN INTO IT, TAKE IT UP, PUT IT ON THE LAKE SHORE, BRING IT BACK UP, SO NEAR THE HOUSES.
SO BASICALLY WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE TOWN AWARE, WHICHEVER, WHATEVER ROUTE WE NEED TO TAKE TO GET THE SAME CARE OF, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT'S VERY TIME SENSITIVE.
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GOING TO GET WORSE STORMS, IT'S GOING TO GET BURIED BY SAND, IT'S GOING TO MOVE.I MEAN, WE'RE NOT FAR FROM WOODLAWN BEACH.
YOU KNOW, IT COULD MOVE THERE.
AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT LIKE LITERALLY TWO FEET OF EXTRA PILE ON TOP OF OUR BEACH.
I'M ALSO ON THE BOARD OF THE LAKE ERIE SEAWAY TRAIL.
HIS WIFE IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE LAKE ERIE SEAWAY TRAIL.
WE'RE A VERY BEACH CONSCIOUS, CLEANUP CONSCIOUS.
SO THIS HAPPENING IS VERY CONCERNING FOR US BECAUSE WE HAVE DOGS, WE HAVE NIECES, NEPHEWS THAT THEY JUMP OFF OUR RAFT AND THEY HIT A PIECE OF REBARB IN THE WATER THAT WE CAN'T SEE.
THERE'S LOTS OF OBVIOUSLY DANGERS.
IT BEING BURIED UNDER THE SAND AND STRUCTURALLY JUST WITH WHAT THEY HAVE GOING ON ON THEIR SIDE IS PROBABLY PRETTY DANGEROUS AS WELL.
UM, LIKE I SAID, WE DID TALK TO THEM.
THEY WERE WILLING TO CLEAN IT UP, BUT NO ACTION AS OF YET.
UM, SOME OF THESE PIECES ARE LIKE LITERALLY FIVE FEET WIDE WITH A BIG REBAR STICKING OUT OF 'EM, SO IT'S DEFINITELY DANGEROUS.
UM, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
AND WE HAVE ANOTHER CONCERN AS WELL THAT'S, I POSTED ON THOSE PICTURES.
A COUPLE YEARS AGO, OUR OTHER NEIGHBOR WENT, FOUGHT WITH THE PREVIOUS OWNERS IN COURT TO PUT WALLS ON THAT BANDSTAND TO MITIGATE SOME OF THE SOUND POLLUTION FROM THEIR LIVE MUSIC.
THEY HAVE SINCE TORN ALL THE SIDES OFF.
AND BEFORE THEY WERE SHUT DOWN BECAUSE OF COVID, THEY WERE HAVING MUSIC FROM 2:00 PM TO 11:00 PM RIGHT IN THE BANDSTAND.
WE'VE APPROACHED THEM ABOUT IT NUMEROUS TIMES.
SO WE'RE HERE KIND OF TO ALSO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE AS WELL.
UM, AND WE DID MAKE THEM AWARE OF THAT AS WELL.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR, TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT ALL THESE GIANT PIECES OF CONCRETE THAT HAVE TOTALLY DESTROYED OUR BEACH AND OUR BREAK WALL, WHICH AS WE SAW YESTERDAY, THAT'S THE ONLY THING STANDING BETWEEN US AND A GREAT LAKE.
SO WE CAN'T, LIKE, WE CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE THEM.
UM, SO, AND TO RESTORE THE BANDSTAND.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, TOM, THAT'S YOUR HOUSE PICTURED ON THERE TOO.
SO YEAH, THE, YOUR NAME SIR? UH, THOMAS BROAD.
I'M THE OWNER OF 37 84 HOOPER ROAD.
AND I'VE GOT A ACTUAL RAMP THAT GOES DOWN ONTO THE BEACH AND I HAVE A TRACTOR WITH A RAKE AND I ACTUALLY CLEAN THE FIVE DIFFERENT HOUSES DOWN THERE AND WE KEEP THE BEACH PRETTY PRISTINE.
THE LAKE DEBRIS COMES IN, WE PICK IT UP, ITS PLASTICS THAT DISPOSED OF WOOD, WE'LL BURN IT THERE OR THE LAKE TAKES IT BACK AWAY.
THE, UM, DOES IT, THE, THE LAKE PRIOR TO THEM HAVING IT, THE OWNER PRIOR OR PREVIOUS TO THAT IS THE ONE WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR DUMPING ALL THE CONCRETE IN BECAUSE THEY WERE LOSING THE RAMP.
SO THEY FIGURED RATHER THAN LOSE MORE LAND, THEY JUST STARTED DUMPING CONCRETE AND REBAR AND EVERYTHING IN THERE.
SO OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, CONCRETE'S WASHED UP, WE'VE PICKED IT UP, WE PUT IT BACK OVER THERE.
BUT NOW WITH THESE BIGGER STORMS IN THE HIGHER LAKE LEVEL, IT'S TAKEN MORE OF IT.
AND I THINK THEIR OPINION IS IF THEY IGNORE IT, IT'LL GO AWAY.
WELL, THAT HAPPENED LAST NIGHT.
THERE'S BASICALLY ALMOST NO DEBRIS LEFT THERE.
I PROBABLY HAVE MAYBE 40 TONS SITTING IN FRONT OF MY WALL.
SO WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE TOWN TO SEE WHAT YOU CAN DO TO HELP US.
NOW, YOU INDICATED THAT YOU SPOKE TO REPRESENTATIVES OF DUST AND THEY SAID THAT, OR DOSO, THEY SAID THEY WERE GONNA CLEAN IT UP.
HOW LONG AGO THIS CONVERSATION OCCURRED? UM, THE ORIGINAL CLEANUP HAPPENED AROUND THE BEGINNING OF JULY WHERE THEY'VE ONLY REMOVED DEBRIS FROM TWO OF THE FIVE AFFECTED HOMES WHERE THEY THEN JUST PILED IT NEXT TO THEIR RAMP THAT WAS ALREADY DESTROYED.
UM, THIS, NOW WE'VE APPROACHED 'EM A SECOND TIME AND THIS, WHEN DID THAT OCCUR? WHEN? UH, NOVEMBER 3RD.
AND WHAT'D THEY HAVE TO SAY ON THAT? UM, WE DIDN'T COMMUNICATE DIRECTLY.
THE NEIGHBOR WHO, UH, HER, WHO LIVES CLOSEST TO THEM, SHE TEXTED THE OWNER UHHUH AND HE SAID, I WILL GET SOMEONE DOWN THERE AND REMOVE AND REMOVE.
IT WAS JUST BASICALLY THE GIST OF IT.
UH, WALTER, OUR TOWN ATTORNEY IS HERE.
UH, UH, TWO THINGS COME TO MY MIND AND MY BOARD MEMBER.
THE FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS MAY HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL IDEAS.
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THE DEC DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENT CONSERVATION.NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT DEPARTMENT OF CONSERVATION TAKES A RATHER DIM VIEW OF, UH, UH, OBJECTS BEING PLACED INTO THE WATER OR OBJECTS SUBJECT TO YOUR CONTROL, WHICH WIND UP IN THE WATER.
SO ONE, UH, WE CAN CONTACT THE DEC, UH, AND HAVE THEM SEND SOME INVESTIGATIVE PERSONNEL OUT THERE.
THE OTHER THING WE COULD DO IS HAVE OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICE HERE IN TOWN TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
I'M NOT SURE THAT THE OWNERS HAVE VIOLATED ANY CODE, UH, OF THE TOWN OF HA I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT.
BUT WE CERTAINLY COULD GET, UH, A GOOD EDUCATED, UH, CONCLUSION FROM OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT PEOPLE AS TO WHAT CAN BE DONE.
THE THIRD THING I WOULD ASK, MAYBE IF, IF WALTER OR RUTH, OUR TOWN ATTORNEY IS WILLING TO DO IT, YOU GAVE US THE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THE PRINCIPLES THAT DOSE, WE COULD CERTAINLY SEND THEM A LETTER ON TOWN LETTERHEAD SAYING THAT THEY HAVE PERHAPS A LEGAL AND MORAL OBLIGATION TO CLEAN UP, UH, THE BROKEN CONCRETE AND REBAR FROM THEIR ESTABLISHMENT, AND THAT WE EXPECT THEM TO LIVE UP TO THAT OBLIGATION WITHOUT UE DELAY.
ANYBODY ELSE WITH IDEAS? I THINK YOU COVERED ALL OF 'EM.
COVERED CODE ENFORCEMENT CAN ADDRESS THE, UM, IF THERE ARE ANY ISSUES REGARDING THE, THE, UH, BAND AREA ALSO.
THAT PARTICULARLY WITHIN THEIR, THEIR AREA OF EXPERTISE.
UM, BUT I THINK WE OUGHT TO, UH, UH, YOU OUGHT TO NOTIFY THE STATE DEC AND, AND WE CAN SEND THEM A NOTICE AS WELL.
I'LL HAVE OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT, UH, DEPARTMENT HEAD, UH, GET A HOLD OF THE DEC FOLKS TOMORROW.
AND, UH, IF YOU GIVE ME THE CONTACT INFORMATION, UH, I'LL SEND A LETTER WITH WALTER'S EDITORIAL APPROVAL TO, UH, TO, UH, THE OWNERS OF DAWSON, UH, SEE IF I CAN GET THEM TO HELP YOU OUT.
IF YOU GOT THEIR INFORMATION HERE, I'LL, WE'LL, WELL, YOU CAN EMAIL IT TO ME OR, YEAH, THAT MAY BEST YEAH, WE'D HAVE TO GET IT FROM THE TEXT TO THE NEIGHBOR.
WHAT'S, WHAT'S A GOOD EMAIL FOR YOU? WELL, IT IS JAY SHAW AT TOWN OF HAMBURG NY.COM.
I'LL EMAIL THAT TO YOU TONIGHT.
THANKS FOR COMING THE CALL, NICK.
ENJOY THE, UH, PICTURES,
YOU UM, I, I, I KNOW YOU, YOU MADE UP YOUR MIND ON THAT MUNICIPAL BOND, QUESTIONING IT.
I READ THAT THROUGH TODAY FOR ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF.
ONE THING YOU CAN DO DOWN THE LINE IS, UH, WHAT CONCERNED ME WITH 60% POOR AND FAIR ROADWAYS IS TO TURN THE WHOLE THING OVER, TAKE IT AWAY FROM THE TOWN, DO A LONG RANGE CONTRACT WITH A UNION CONTRACTOR LIKE GARY HILLS COMPANY UNION CONCRETE, AND LET THEM WORK WITH THIS PROFESSIONALLY WRITTEN, UH, REQUEST AND DON'T HAVE THE TOWN DO ANY HIGHWAY PAID.
YOU KNOW, AND JUST THAT WAY EVERYBODY'S PROTECTED.
YOU GOT YOU, YOU TAKE YOUR OTHER WORKERS THAT WE'RE GONNA WORK ON FROM THE TOWN AND HAVE 'EM DO SOMETHING ELSE, PICK UP LEAVES OR SOMETHING.
THE OTHER THING IS, UM, UB IS WORKING ON THIS SITE THAT SHUT DOWN NEXT TO FEDEX.
PERELLI TO FIND OUT WHEN THEY'RE GONNA BE DONE SO YOU GUYS KNOW WHEN YOU GET STARTED UP AGAIN.
I CAN LET BETH OR SOMEBODY KNOW ABOUT THAT.
AND THE THIRD THING WAS, UM, AT THE MEETING THE OTHER NIGHT, ITEM NUMBER ONE ON THE, UM, PLANNING BOARD, I THINK IT WAS PLANNING BOARD.
UM, WE, WE MET THE GUYS THAT WANTED TO DO THE BIG BUCKETS PROJECT, UH, AT UH, PLEASANT AND UM, OLD LAKESHORE ROAD.
AND, UH, DICK STEINER, WHO'S NEXT TO ME, IS AN ATTORNEY.
IT CAN'T, IT CAN'T GO FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL.
I DON'T THINK THESE GUYS WERE ENCOURAGED AT ALL BY ANY OF THE MEETING, BUT IT MIGHT HAVE TO BE IF THEY WANT, WHAT THEY WANNA DO WOULD'VE TO BE LIKE INDUSTRIAL, UM, INDUSTRIAL PERMIT RATHER THAN COMMERCIAL.
EVERYTHING WAS DEFINED IN THE MEETING AND LAKEVIEW WAS RESIDENTIAL.
THESE GUYS WANTED TO DO COMMERCIAL WITH, THEY WERE, THEY WEREN'T ENCOURAGED BY THE PLANNING BOARD
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AND THEY WEREN'T ENCOURAGED WHEN THEY MET THE 12 PEOPLE WE BROUGHT TO THE MEETING IN THE BACK HALL.WHAT WAS GOING ON? SO I THINK, UM, WE DID RECEIVE NOTES FROM DREW RILEY THAT, THAT CONTAINED INFORMATION FROM THEIR LAST PLANNING BOARD MEETING.
AND I BELIEVE HE SAYS IN HERE THAT THAT PARTICULAR APPLICATION, THE APPLICANT HAS DECIDED TO WITHDRAW THEIR REQUEST.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.