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A LITTLE EXCITING SHIFT A FEW INCHES IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.AND MY EUROPEAN VACATION GOT CANCELED.
I THINK CAITLIN AND I COULD SHOW UP WITH THE KIDS, ADD LIKE A WHOLE KITTY CENTER TO IT FOR YOU.
COME ALONG WITH MY SEVEN GRANDKIDS.
WE'D, WE'D HAVE A BALL, YOU KNOW.
HEY, BY THE WAY, THE, THE, THE FACEBOOK IS WORKING.
AND THE MEETING'S BEING RECORDED NOW.
ALRIGHT, SO WELCOME TO THE JUNE 17TH MEETING, JOHN PLANNING BOARD.
WILL EVERYBODY PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG STATES TO THE REPUBLIC ONE NATION WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
HIM AGAIN, DIDN'T I? YOU SURE DID.
I GOTTA, I'M GONNA HAVE TO, UH, WRITE IT ON MY HAND OR SOMETHING.
FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS HAM FAMILY TRUST REQUESTING A REZONING OF A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
IT'S BEEN CHANGED, RIGHT? YES.
THE, THE REZONING, I, IT'S RICHARD FATIGUE.
THE REZONING APPLICATION IS WITHDRAWN.
UH, WE DID WANNA GO FORWARD WITH THE SUBDIVISION AND KEEP IT AS COMMERCIAL.
UH, WELL, I THINK YEAH, THE C TWO.
WE GOTTA LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS.
SO, DREW, WHAT ARE THE LOT SIZE REQUIREMENTS FOR C TWO? UM, SARAH DID THE REVIEW OF THAT BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE THE PLAN HERE.
SO, SARAH, IF YOU WANNA JUMP IN, THERE AREN'T ANY, UM, THE O WELL, THE ONLY REQUIREMENT IS THAT THE LOTS BE A HUNDRED FEET WIDE AT THE BUILDING LINE.
AND THE SUBDIVISION PLAN MEETS THAT REQUIREMENT.
AND YOU WANT A COPY OF THE, UH, MONK AND FAMILY TRUCK OR THE, UH, IRREVOCABLE TRUST.
I SENT YOU GUYS A COPY OF THAT.
THAT'S KIND OF, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BINDING.
SO THEY JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THAT.
WE'VE HAD THIS HAPPEN A HALF DOZEN TIMES OR MORE OVER THE LAST 20 SOME YEARS, IS THAT PROPERTY IS SPLIT TO ERRORS.
AND THEN AFTER WE HAVE TO THEN, AFTER THE FACT, UH, YOU KNOW, APPROVE A SUBDIVISION.
THE ISSUE HERE WAS THAT IT'S ZONED C TWO, SO THEY'RE TRYING TO GET IT REZONED.
BUT THAT CAME WITH A LOT OF ISSUES TOO.
SO I UNDERSTAND THE APPLICANT'S POINT.
JUST LET'S SUBDIVIDE THE PROPERTY SO IT MATCHES THE, YOU KNOW, PROPERTY, THE DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERS THAT HAVE INHERITED THE PROPERTY.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY IF THEY COME IN TO DEVELOP THE COMMERCIALLY, THEY'D HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL AND DEAL WITH THOSE ISSUES.
AND IN THE FUTURE, WE'VE TOLD THEM THAT, THAT WHEN THE TOWN GOES THROUGH A NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE PROPERTIES MAY BE REZONED ANYWAY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AT A LATER DATE.
SO MIGHT AS WELL LET THEM TAKE CARE OF IT NOW.
THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
AND IF WE DO SEEKER, WE'LL SEEKER ONLY ON THE SUBDIVISION OF LAND, NO FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
THEY'D HAVE TO COME BACK TO US FOR ANYTHING IF THEY WANTED TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY.
ALSO, BILL, WHAT DID YOU SAY? SORRY? I SAID WE CAN PUT CONDITIONS ON A SUBDIVISION.
UM, I MEAN, TYPICALLY WE HAVE AN IDEA OF THE PURPOSE THAT THEY'RE GONNA DEVELOP, THAT WHY THEY'RE SUBDIVIDING THE PROPERTY AND TAILOR THE CONDITIONS IN THAT DIRECTION.
UM, THIS ONE, IT'S JUST, THEY'RE GONNA CUT 'EM UP AND RIGHT.
WELL THE ONLY QUESTION IS WHAT WOULD WE D WOULD BE DONE WITH A VACANT ONE? 'CAUSE THERE'S ALREADY A HOUSE ON ONE OF THEM AND A BUSINESS ON THE OTHER.
YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S, YEAH, THERE, THERE'S AN AREA.
I, I'M NOT SURE THAT THERE'S BEEN ANY DETERMINATION.
I KNOW JUST THAT GOES TO, UH, BRUCE MONTON, THE ONLY ONE THAT BONNIE GETS, BONNIE ELITO, WHOSE SISTER GETS, IS THE RESIDENCE.
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SO FROM A PROCESS STANDPOINT, UM, WE HAVE TO, WE HAVEN'T HELD A PUBLIC HEARING OBVIOUSLY, 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T WANNA ACT ON THE SUBDIVISION UNTIL THE REZONING.SO WE'D HAVE TO SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING.
AND THEN AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING, YOU COULD WAIVE THE FINAL PLAT AND JUST APPROVE THE SUBDIVISION.
OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO DO SEEKER FIRST BEFORE WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
THAT'S THE REALLY STUPID THING ABOUT THE, THE LAWS THAT EXIST.
SO WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND, AFTER YOU GET ALL YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED, I WOULD RECOMMEND SETTING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE SECOND MEETING IN JULY AT THE FIRST MEETING IN JULY.
WE WOULD MAKE A SECRET DECISION AND THEN HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT OUR SECOND MEETING.
AND THEN POSSIBLY YOU COULD APPROVE IT THAT NIGHT IF EVERYTHING WENT WELL.
SO I'M JUST GIVING YOU THE BEST CASE SCENARIO OF WHAT, HOW YOU COULD PROCESS THE PROJECT.
SO THE C TWO LOT THAT REMAINS THE, THE VACANT PROPERTY.
SO THE EXISTING HOUSE THAT WOULD BE ON ONE OF THE THREE LOTS WOULD BE A GRANDFATHERED IN AS AN EXISTING NON-CONFORMING USE THE VACANT LOT.
IS THAT STILL, WOULD THAT MEAN CRITERIA TO ALLOW SOMEONE TO DEVELOP IT? OR ARE WE CREATING A LOT THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE REZONED IN ORDER TO BE DEVELOPED? NO, THEY CAN DEVELOP IT AS A C TWO USE.
WITH YOUR APPROVAL, OF COURSE.
SO WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT HOUSE BEING THEN A NON-CONFORMING USE AND THE C TWO ZONING THAT'S EXISTING THAT JUST STAYS THE SAME YEP.
SUBDIVIDING PROPERTY DOESN'T CHANGE IT'S NON-CONFORMING USE STATUS.
BUT IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO THAT HOME, IT'S A NON-CONFORMING USE.
UM, THEY TYPICALLY GO TO THE ZONING BOARD AND GET A VARIANCE TO REBUILD IT, RIGHT, SARAH? IF THAT HAPPENS, YES.
ACTUALLY, UH, WE HAVE A, A BUNCH OF CODE CHANGES WE'RE DOING A PUBLIC HEARING ON NEXT MONTH.
AND ONE OF 'EM IS TO, TO MAKE IT SO THAT PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO GO TO THE ZBA, THEY CAN AUTOMATICALLY REBUILD IT IF IT'S A, A NON-CONFORMING USE.
BECAUSE IT ALSO HELPS WITH THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE TROUBLE GETTING MORTGAGES IF YOU HAVE A NON-CONFORMING RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE.
THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS WONDERING.
AND THEN ASKED THAT THAT VACANT PIECE OF PROPERTY THEN HAS TO BE DEVELOPED IF A C TWO, OTHERWISE IT GOES TO ZONING.
IF IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO BUILD A HOUSE ON IT, THEY'D HAVE TO COME AND ASK FOR IT TO BE REZONED.
KIND OF THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT WE WERE ORIGINALLY THINKING, WHERE WE WERE GONNA CHANGE IT TO RA AND HAVE THE NON-CONFORMING USE OF THE BUSINESS.
YOU COULD GET, YOU COULD, I'M NOT TELLING 'EM, BUT THEY COULD GET VERY CLEVER WITH IT.
YOU COULD BUILD A SMALL RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE AND THAT'S COME TO US AS AN OFFICE BUILDING OR WHATEVER AND, AND, AND YOU KNOW, AT LEAST HAVE A RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE THERE.
BUT, UH, THAT'S, WE'VE SEEN THAT HAPPEN IN THE PAST ON COMMERCIALLY ZONED PROPERTIES IS THEY GET A BUILDING PERMIT TO BUILD A SMALL, LIKE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE OR SOMETHING OR WHATEVER, AND IT'S IN THE SHAPE OF A RESIDENTIAL HOUSE AND THEN LATER DATE IT'S CONVERTED.
BUT I'VE SEEN THAT HAPPEN HOUSE.
BUT THEY'D HAVE TO COME TO YOU TO GET APPROVAL.
SO YOU'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THE STEPS AND PROCEDURES, AS YOU GUYS WERE SAYING, PUTTING CONDITIONS ON A TYPICAL CONSTRUCTION OF A COMMERCIAL COMMERCIAL BUSINESS.
I THINK THE HOPES ARE THAT IN THE LONG TERM, THE COMP, WHEN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS DONE, THAT THE TOWN WILL ENACT A TOWN WIDE REZONING AND, AND PROBABLY FIX THE ZONING ON THESE PROPERTIES.
I DON'T THINK THE LONG-TERM PLAN OF THE TOWN IS TO HAVE C TWO PROPERTY AT THAT LOCATION.
WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE COMMERCIAL PIECE OF PROPERTY WHERE THE BUSINESS IS CURRENTLY? IS THERE WATER AND SEWER GOING TO THAT PROPERTY? OR LAST TIME WE TALKED, I, I THINK, I THINK MY OPINION WAS AT LAST MEETING, AND ROGER WILL HAVE TO CONFIRM IT, IT'S AN EXISTING NON-CONFORMING USE THAT STRUCTURE.
'CAUSE IT'S REALLY NOT A, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A BUSINESS, BUT IT'S NOT, I DON'T THINK IT'S A BUSINESS THAT'S LISTED AND, AND WHATEVER, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
IT'S UP TO ROGER TO DETERMINE, BUT IT CONTINUES.
WELL AS AND AS FAR AS WATER AND SEWER GOES, I GOT THE ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS AND I GAVE THEM TO YOU, BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER THE ANSWERS.
NO, I, YEAH, THE ANSWERS I BELIEVE THERE ARE THERE ARE THEY OR BOTH? YEAH.
SO, UM, TO ALL THREE PARCELS OR JUST THE, UH, THE OFFICE? ALL THREE PIECE COMMERCIAL.
OH, IS UTILITIES TO JUST THE OFFICE.
IF THEY DEVELOP THE VACANT PIECE THAT WOULD NEED, THEY'D HAVE TO PUT IN UTILITIES FOR THAT.
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CAN YOU TELL US MORE ABOUT WHY THEY CHANGED THEIR MIND? UH, IT WAS JUST A DECISION, I THINK AT THIS POINT.IT JUST SEEMED TO BE AN EASIER WAY TO GO.
IT JUST, IT JUST BECAME TOO COMPLICATED, FRANKLY.
I MEAN, DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I DON'T KNOW.
THERE'S A WHOLE LOT THAT WE CAN DO.
I, I MEAN, MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS THAT THERE'S NO PLAN CHANGE TO THE VACANT LOT AND THE OTHER TWO USES ARE GONNA REMAIN AS IS.
IT'S JUST DIVIDING IT DUE TO THE ESTATE, RIGHT? YES.
AND ALL I WOULD ASK YOU TO DO, YOU'RE NOT MAKING A DECISION TONIGHT.
I WOULD SET UP PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE SECOND MEETING IN JULY AND THEN WE'D HAVE TO MAKE A SECRET DECISION.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES, LET ME KNOW SO I CAN RESEARCH THEM, UM, FOR THAT.
AND SARAH, WE HAVE A SHORT FORM AF FOR JUST THE THREE LOT SUBDIVISION, RIGHT? YEP.
SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE MON AND FAMILY TRUST TO JULY 1ST FOR A SECRET DETERMINATION AND SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING ON JULY 15TH.
WE COULD FOR THE APPLICANTS, BUT WE COULD APPROVE IT THAT NIGHT.
UM, SOME OF THE THINGS YOU GUYS ARE GONNA HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IS, WELL, YOU'RE NOT GONNA ASK FOR RECREATION LAND.
THEY'RE BASICALLY GONNA PAY A FEE IN LIEU OF, AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA MAKE 'EM DO SIDEWALKS OUT THERE.
CORRECT? THERE AREN'T ANY SIDEWALKS THERE.
NO, THERE'S NOT ANY SIDEWALKS OUT THERE.
AND IF THE PLANNING BOARD THINKS OF ANY ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES, LET ME KNOW AND I'LL DO THE RESEARCH ON, ON IT.
BUT IT'S PRETTY MUCH A SPLIT OF LOT.
AND WE'RE GONNA PURPOSE, WE'RE GONNA SEGMENT THIS REVIEW.
WE'RE GONNA STATE IN THE RECORD THAT WE'RE NOT CONSIDERING ANY DEVELOPMENT ON THE SITE.
WE'RE ONLY CONSIDERING THE DIVISION OF THE LAND.
ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT HAVE TO HAVE ITS OWN SEEKER AND OWN APPROVALS TO DO.
YOU CAN SEGMENT, THERE'S NO PLAN FOR, IN THIS CASE, FOR DEVELOPMENT OF THAT PROPERTY.
SECOND ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS JAMES CLEARY REQUESTING, UH, AN EVENT CENTER AT THE WILLOW BEND PROPERTY.
I'M, I'M O WE'RE DONE WITH MONCTON SO I CAN GO.
OKAY, SO WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, UH, THE, THE JAMES CLEAR EVENT CENTER A LOT.
UM, ANY CHANGES SINCE OUR LAST MEETING? NOPE.
HEY MUSCLES, HOW ARE YOU? ANY UM, SO CAN I, SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS WHERE WE'RE AT WITH, UH, THIS IS THAT WE HAVE, WE WENT THROUGH THE
DREW PROVIDED THE WRITEUP AND I, IT LOOKED BASED ON MY REVIEW, LIKE IT WAS CONSISTENT WITH OUR DISCUSSION.
I THINK THE PLAN TONIGHT IS WE NEED TO MAKE A SECRET DECISION AND THEN NEXT MONTH, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MONTH, THEY'RE GOING TO ZONING BOARD.
AND THEN THEY'RE COMING BACK TO US.
SEE, SEAN DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO BE HERE.
I CAN RECAP
THEY'LL BE ON THE ZONING BOARD AGENDA ON THE 7TH OF JULY.
AND WE'RE NOT GONNA GO THROUGH PART TWO AGAIN.
DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON PART THREE? I KNOW THERE WAS QUESTIONS.
I I TRIED TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES IN THE PART THREE.
I WAS A CONSERVATIVE AS POSSIBLE IF YOU HAD QUESTIONS ON ANYTHING.
I TRIED TO TALK ABOUT IT IN THE PART THREE.
FOR EXAMPLE, IT WAS BROUGHT UP ABOUT, UM, ANIMALS ON, YOU KNOW, LOCAL ANIMALS ON THE PROPERTY.
UH, BASICALLY I SAID THERE'S NO THREATEN OR ENDANGERED SPECIES AND, AND BECAUSE OF THE LIMITED AREA WHERE THEY'RE DISTURBING THAT THE LOCAL ANIMALS WOULD BE ABLE TO REMAIN AND THE CREEK CARTER REMAINS FOR THE ANIMALS TO TRAVEL BETWEEN AREAS.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF THAT WAS OKAY.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY ISSUES THEY FEEL LIKE WE HAVEN'T FINISHED DISCUSSING ON THIS PROJECT? I, I JUST HAVE ONE THING AT THE LAST MEETING HE CONFUSED ME EVEN MORE WHEN HE SAID THAT THE CATERERS WILL TAKE OUT THEIR OWN
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GARBAGE.AND THEN HE TALKED ABOUT PLACEMENT OF DUMPSTERS WHEN BOB ASKED HIM ABOUT IF THERE WERE GONNA BE DUMPSTERS.
ARE ARE YOU GONNA HAVE, DO YOU, DO YOU RECALL THAT CONVERSATION? HE'S MUTED THOUGH.
YEAH, EITHER OF YOU WANNA WEIGH IN ON THAT.
WE, WE DO HAVE, WE DO HAVE A DUMPSTER ON THE SITE.
WE, WE ADDED THAT A COUPLE ITERATIONS AGO.
IT'S, UH, IT'S IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER ADJACENT TO WHERE THE BUBBLE IS.
AND IT'S A, IT'S A FENCED IN ENCLOSURE.
HOW, HOW BIG OF A DUMPSTER, CHRIS? UH, IT'S A 12 BY 12 ENCLOSURE.
SO IT'S JUST STANDARD COMMERCIAL SIZED DUMPSTER.
UH, HOW DID WE GO FROM NO DUMPSTERS TO A 12 BY 12 DUMPSTER? I THINK, I THINK THE PLANNING BOARD ASKED A COUPLE MEETINGS AGO WHETHER OR NOT WE WERE GONNA HAVE A DUMPSTER AND, AND WE DISCUSSED, DISCUSSED IT, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY WITH THE PROJECT TEAM.
AND TIM DECIDED THAT IT WOULD PROBABLY BE A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE A DUMPSTER ON SITE.
AND, AND YOU GUYS WILL BE ABLE, IF THEY GET THEIR USE VARIANCE WHEN THEY COME BACK FOR SLATE PLAN, WE CAN MAKE ANY COMMENTS AND CONDITIONS ON DUMPSTERS AND LOCATIONS AND ENCLOSURES AND ALL THOSE THINGS.
KEEP IN MIND I CAN'T PLACE CONDITIONS ON A SEEKER DECISION.
ALL WE'RE MAKING TONIGHT IS SEEKER.
AND BECAUSE IT'S A TYPE ONE ACTION, I CANNOT DO A CONDITIONAL NECK DECK.
IT'S GOTTA BE CLEAN, NO CONDITIONS PLACED ON IT.
THE ZBA CAN PLACE CONDITIONS ON THEIR USE BRANCH, AND YOU CAN PLACE CONDITIONS ON YOUR SITE PLAN APPROVAL.
BUT I CAN'T PLACE CONDITIONS ON, ON THE SECRET DETERMINATION.
UH, JUST TO, SO FOR OUR 15 VIEWERS ON THE LIVE STREAM, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING WHEN IT COMES TO THE SITE PLAN REVIEW AFTER IT GOES THROUGH ZONING.
SO THERE'LL BE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC INPUT AT THAT TIME.
AND THEN WE CAN
AND THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT STEP.
SO THERE'LL BE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THAT ON WHETHER TO GRANT A USE VARIANCE.
AND THEN IF THEY DO GET THE USE VARIANCE, WE'LL HAVE ON THE SITE PLAN WHERE WE CAN GET INTO DESIGN DETAILS OF THE SITE.
USE VARIANCE IS IMPORTANT 'CAUSE THEY CAN'T PLACE CONDITIONS ON THAT USE AND RESTRICTIONS.
THEY WILL ONLY GIVE A USE VARIANCE FOR THE ACTUAL USES THEY ARE PROPOSING.
IT WILL NOT BE AN OPEN CHECKBOOK.
IT'LL ONLY BE THE USES THEY'RE PROPOSING.
THEY CAN BE VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT THOSE USES.
JIM CLEARY CALLED ME AND SAID THAT HE'S LOST, UH, HE'S LOST THE MEETING, SO, OH, WE CAN SEE HIM.
IS HE STILL THERE? I THINK HE'S JUST MUTED HIMSELF.
HE C HE JUST CALLED AND SAID HE, HE'S OKAY.
YEAH, I MEAN, WE CAN SEE HIM, BUT, OKAY.
CAN HE HEAR US? I THINK SO, YES.
CAN YOU HEAR US? JAMES? SHAKE YOUR HEAD.
CAN YOU HE'S SHAKING HIS HEAD.
CAN JEN, CAN JENNY UNMUTE HIM FROM THE, LIKE AS THE HOST? EVERYONE GET A CHANCE TO READ THE HE'S CALLING ME AGAIN.
I'LL, DID EVERYONE GET A CHANCE TO READ THE SECRET RESOLUTION? YES.
ANY ISSUES WITH THAT? I'M OKAY WITH THE RESOLUTION THERE.
I THINK WE'LL HAVE BROADER DISCUSSION ON ANY CONDITIONS WHEN WE DO SITE PLAN.
YEAH, THE, THE RESOLUTION IS JUST A SIMPLE RESOLUTION AND NEGATIVE DECK IS PART ONE, PART TWO AND PART THREE OF THE EAF, THAT'S THE ACTUAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION.
THE, THE RESOLUTION IS JUST SIMPLE REFERRING TO THE FACT THAT THAT IS THE NEGATIVE DECLARATION.
SO YOU HAVE TO AGREE WHAT'S IN THE PART ONE, TWO, AND THREE.
THAT'S YOUR NEGATIVE DECLARATION.
DON'T WE JUST GO INTO THAT THEN? UH, I MEAN, BOB, YOU'RE, YOU WERE THE ONE WHO HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS BEFORE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON SEEKER OR, UH, ON THAT PROCESS OR THE, THE WRITEUP? NO, I, I HAVE NO, NO QUESTIONS ON THE, ON THE, ON THE SEEKER, UH, RESOLUTION RIGHT NEGATIVE DECLARATION, JAMES CLEARY EVENT CENTER 6 6 5 3 TAYLOR ROAD, WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG RECEIVED A SITE PLAN APPLICATION FROM JAMES CLEARY REQUESTING SITE PLAN APPROVAL OF A WEDDING SLASH EVENT CENTER TO BE LOCATED AT 6 6 5 3 TAYLOR ROAD.
AND WHEREAS THE PROPOSED ACTION ISN'T IS AN UNLISTED ACTION UNDER THE STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT SPEAKER.
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PLANNING BOARD HAS RECEIVED INPUT FROM THE TOWN'S ADVISORY BOARDS, AND WHEREAS IN ACCORDANCE WITH PART 6 1 7 OF THE IMPLEMENTING REG REGULATIONS PERTAINING TO ARTICLE EIGHT, SEEKER OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION LAW, HAMBURG PLANNING BOARD HAS REVIEWED PART ONE OF THE FEAF COMPLETED PARTS TWO AND THREE OF THE FEAF AND REVIEWED THE CRITERIA FOR DETERMINING SIGNIFICANCE IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 6 1 7 0.7 OF SECRET.NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED.
HAMBURG PLANNING BOARD IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT HAS DETERMINED THAT THE PROPOSED PROJECT WILL, WILL NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE NATURAL RESOURCES OF THE STATE AND OR THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE PUBLIC, AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC CONSIDERATIONS.
THEREFORE, ISSUES A SEEK NEGATIVE DECLARATION IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 6 1 7 0.7 OF THE SEEKER REGULATIONS AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE PLANNING BOARD CHAIRMAN IS AUTHORIZED TO SIGN THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM, WHICH WILL ACT AS THE NEGATIVE DECLARATION MOTION BY MR. CLARK.
OKAY, SO, SO WE, WE UH, WE DID THE NEGATIVE DECLARATION OF SEEKER, YOUR NEXT STEP IS THE ZONING BOARD, AND THEN IF YOU GET THROUGH THAT, THEN IT'S BACK TO US.
IS THERE, IS THERE ANYTHING THE PLANNING BOARD WANTS TO SAY? I'M SORRY.
SOMETIMES IT HA I DON'T KNOW IF THE ZBA LIST DO ANYTHING, ANY ISSUES YOU WANNA SEND, SEND TO THE ZBA CONCERNS, ET CETERA, WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY CONSIDER THE USE VARIANCE, THEY DON'T HAVE TO LISTEN TO YOU.
BUT
UM, IF, IF YOU GET THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS, ONCE YOU GET DONE, WHAT IS YOUR, UH, DUE DATE TO BEGIN, UM, UM, CONSTRUCTION AND DEVELOPING THE AREA? WHAT'S, DO YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF, ANY IDEA? WELL, WE FIGURE IT'S PROBABLY TAKE, KURT ALLEN IS GONNA BE, IS THE, UH, IS OUR CONSTRUCTION MANAGER, KURT FIGURES.
IT'S GONNA BE PROBABLY A COUPLE MONTHS TO, TO GET ALL THE BIDDING AND STUFF IN TO GET THAT IN PLACE.
SO SOME, MAYBE SOMETIME IN THE FALL, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE NOW WE GOTTA GO THROUGH ZONING, THEN WE HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU.
SO THAT'S JULY EPTEMBER I WOULD SAY I WOULD'VE LIKED, OBVIOUSLY LIKED GOTTEN STARTED EARLIER, BUT IT'S, THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
I WOULD SAY WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA CONSTRUCTION IN OCTOBER.
I MAYBE WE, MAYBE WE'D START DOING SOME SITE WORK AND STUFF LIKE THAT SITE WORK PERMIT, YOU KNOW, AFTER WE MEET WITH YOU, UH, THE FINAL PLANNING BOARD MEETING.
BUT THAT'S, IT'S A POSSIBILITY.
BUT I I, I HAVEN'T EVEN TALKED TO KURT ABOUT IT YET.
SO WHAT'S YOUR TIMETABLE TO START OPERATIONS OF THE FACILITY IF THIS ALL JUNE OR JULY YEAR? YOU KNOW, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A WEDDING VENUE, SO, YOU KNOW, USUALLY THEY START AROUND THE 1ST OF MAY.
I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S NORMAL.
SO I DON'T THINK, WE'LL, WE, WE WON'T, WE PROBABLY WON'T BE, UH, TOTALLY OPERATIONAL TILL SOMETIME IN THE BEGINNING OR THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER.
YOU KNOW, NOBODY WANTS TO HAVE A WEDDING WITH THE LAWNS NOT, ARE NOT GROWING IN PROPERLY AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA TAKE, IT'LL BE A YEAR.
ANYTHING, ANYTHING WE WANNA MAKE SURE THE ZONING BOARD OR WE WANNA ASK THE ZONING BOARD TO CONSIDER.
I OH, CAN WE PROVIDE THEM A COPY OF THE EAF AND OUR, WHAT WE EVALUATED AND SO THEY CAN SEE ALL THAT DREW, HAS THAT BEEN FORWARDED TO THEM? THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT IDEA.
SEND THEM AT LEAST PART THREE.
PART THREE WILL GIVE 'EM AN IDEA OF WHAT THE CONCERNS WERE AND WHATEVER ABOUT I'LL ISSUING AN NEG DECK.
SARAH, I'LL SEND THEM PART TWO AS WELL.
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THAT WAS ME.UM, WE HAVE MINUTES FROM THE JUNE 3RD MEETING.
AND REVISED MINUTES FROM THE MAY 20TH MEETING.
A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REVISED MINUTES FROM THE MAY 20TH MEETING THAT SARAH SENT OUT ON MONDAY.
MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE JUNE 3RD MEETING.
DID YOU SECOND THAT ONE, MEGAN? YEP.
I THINK YOU SECOND THAT OTHER ONE TOO.
I SAW YOUR LIPS MOVING, BUT I WAS TALKING AT THE SAME TIME SO I DIDN'T HEAR IT.
UM, DOUG, WHAT? YOU READY? TAKE A MOTION TO THE MEETING.
HOW DO WE KNOW IT'S YOU
SO DENNIS, HOW OFTEN DOES THAT TREADMILL GET USED? OH, ABOUT THREE TIMES A WEEK.
A LITTLE MORE DURING THIS, UH, TIME OF, NO, NO WALKING AND RINGING AROUND, BUT
THAT DIDN'T GET USED AT ALL UNTIL THIS HAPPENED.
I GOT A BIKE IN THE BACK, ONE OF THOSE, BUT, UH, I LIKE THE TREADMILL BETTER.
OF COURSE IT DOESN'T HELP THE BRAIN.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE PUBLIC MEETINGS FINE, RIGHT.
GOVERNOR'S ORDERS EXTENDED THROUGH JULY.
SO THAT TAKES US TILL AT LEAST THE NEXT MEETING, UM, SOMETIME BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT MEETING.
AND WE'RE GONNA GO TO TOWN HALL AND, AND TEST OUT THE NEW MICROPHONE THEY GOT WITH MASKS ON AND DIFFERENT PLACES TO SEE HOW THINGS GO THERE.
BUT WE'LL, WE'LL KEEP DOING, UH, THEM THIS WAY FOR THE TIME BEING AND WORK ON A TRANSITION IF THINGS CONTINUE TO IMPROVE THE CBA ALREADY MET IN PERSON IN LAST, UH, TWO WEEKS AGO AND IT WORKED OUT FINE.
IT WORKED OUT BETTER THAN THE FIRST TIME THEY MET.
THE FIR NO, THEY'VE ONLY, ONLY MET ONCE.
IT DIDN'T WORK OUT FINE AS FAR AS THE UH RIGHT.
OTHER PEOPLE WATCHING IT, BUT IT WORKED OUT FINE WITH THEM BEING DISTANCE.
IT SEEMED LIKE A, A BIG ISSUE WAS WITH PEOPLE SPACED OUT SIX FEET APART AND WEARING MASKS.
YOU CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING ANYBODY SAYS ON THE WEBCAST.
THE SPACING AND THE MASKS MAKE IT NOT AS LOUD.
YEAH, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT HARDER TO HEAR, BUT IT WASN'T, IT WASN'T TOO BAD.
RIGHT NOW IT'S THE GATHERINGS ARE LI LIMITED TO 25 PEOPLE, SO WE CAN'T HAVE MORE THAN 25 PEOPLE IN THE ROOM ANYWAY.
SOMETIMES THAT'S, WE HAVE MORE THAN THAT WITH JUST THE APPLICANTS, THEIR REPRESENTATION IN US.
SO IN OTHER TIMES, I WORK WITH, THEY'VE, THEY'VE SET UP AREAS OUTSIDE OF THE MEETING ROOM FOR PEOPLE TO STAY AND THEY'RE ONLY INVITED IN WHEN THAT AGENDA ITEM OR WHATEVER.
BUT MAYBE BY THEN WE'LL BE PA I DON'T KNOW WHAT PHASE, WELL, PHASE FOUR MAY INCLUDE MORE THAN 25 PEOPLE.
RIGHT NOW YOU'RE LIMITED TO 25 PEOPLE.
SO YEAH, I MEAN, WE'LL, WE'LL SEE HOW THINGS GO, BUT, UM, WE'LL BE, WE'LL DO THIS AS LONG AS WE, AS LONG AS IT'S APPROPRIATE.
AND AS I TALKED ABOUT THE LAST MEETING, UM, I THINK WE COULD GO A MONTH OR SO WITH THE COMBINATION WHERE SOME PEOPLE ARE TOWN HALL AND SOME PEOPLE ARE ON VIDEO SCREEN AND IT'S STILL SIMULCAST OVER THE INTERNET.
SO, SO THAT WAY WE CAN ACCOMMODATE PEOPLE THAT AREN'T AS TECH SAVVY, BUT STILL KEEP IT LIMITED AND KEEP THE SOCIAL DISTANCING AND MASKS FOR PEOPLE THAT DO GO TO TOWN HALL.
WE, WE'LL EXPERIMENT WITH IT AND WE'LL SEE.
BUT FOR NOW THIS IS STILL WORKING, SO IT'S, WHILE WE'RE
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DOING IT, I LIKE YOUR SHIRT BILL.SO THE PLAN FOR TOWN HALL IS TO HAVE THE MEETING, UH, THE BOARD MEETING ON JULY 6TH IN PERSON.
AND WE ARE SUPPOSED SUPPOSEDLY GOING TO HAVE RESIDENTS.
SO, UM, WHEN IS YOUR NEXT PLANNING BOARD MEETING? OURS IS JULY 1ST.
UM, SO WE, I CAN LOOK AND SEE.
I, I, I HAVEN'T TALKED TO THE SUPERVISOR YET.
I WOULD ASSUME THAT WE'RE GONNA PROBABLY DO IT IN SEVEN A OR SEVEN B AT TOWN HALL BECAUSE IT'S A BIGGER ROOM THAN THE COURTROOM AND I THINK WE CAN FIT MORE PEOPLE WITH HAVING THEM SPREAD OUT.
BUT I'LL KEEP YOU POSTED ON, UH, WHAT THE SUPERVISOR'S PLAN IS AND THEN REALLY THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU SO THAT MAYBE WE COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE YOUR MEETING, UM, IN PERSON ON THE FIRST, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN.
IF WE HAVE IT LIVE STREAM THOUGH, I'M NOT, YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK, UM, WE'LL HAVE A FULL JUST STRAIGHT IN PERSON MEETING ON THE FIRST.
UM, AND THAT MEETING ON THE SIXTH, THE TOWN BOARD IS DOING, ARE THEY GONNA LIVE STREAM IT ALSO OR IS IT JUST GONNA BE IN TOWN HALL? THE PLAN IS TO HAVE IT LIVE STREAMED, YES.
AND I CAN
UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO TEST, UH, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS WORKING APPROPRIATELY.
BUT HOWEVER WE DO IT FOR THE, UM, TOWN BOARD MEETING IS THE WAY THAT WE WOULD DO IT FOR PLANNING AND ZONING MOVING FORWARD.
UM, I CAN COME IN ON FRIDAY AND HELP TEST THAT IF YOU WANT.
AND I, I ASSUME THEY WILL HAVE THE PERSON DOING THE, THE, UH, TEMPERATURE TAKING THE SCREEN TEMPERATURE SCREENING.
IS THAT HOW THEY'RE GONNA DO IT? OR, UH, WE ARE NOT DOING TEMPERATURE SCREENING.
I THINK THE TEMPERATURE SCREENING, UM, WILL BE WHAT I'M TOLD ELIMINATED AFTER THE 20, AFTER THE THIRD.
SO AFTER THE 23RD OF WHICH IS NEXT TUESDAY, BUT EVERYONE WILL BE REQUIRED TO WEAR A MASK, RIGHT? YEP.
YEAH, SO BILL, IF YOU WANNA TOUCH BASE WITH ME, I JUST, I JUST WANTED TO FILL YOU IN SINCE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT IT, KIND OF WHERE WE WERE.
AND, AND I WILL RELAY ANY INFORMATION THAT I HAVE SO THAT YOUR PLANNING COMMITTEE CAN, UM, SCHEDULE AND PLAN ACCORDINGLY FOR YOUR NEEDS.
I MEAN, AT LEAST FOR THE NEXT ONE, WE'LL, IT'LL BE PRIMARILY BE WEBEX AND MAYBE WE'LL HAVE SOME PEOPLE IN THE TOWN HALL AND MAYBE WE WON'T, BUT, UM, WELL HERE'S A, HERE'S A PROBLEM THOUGH.
I HAVE TO PUT THE LEGAL NOTICE IN THE PAPER TOMORROW, SO I HAVE TO KNOW WHETHER THERE'S GONNA BE PEOPLE IN SEVEN A AND SEVEN B OR NOT BY TOMORROW.
YOU CAN NOTICE I'LL DO THE NEXT ONE BY WEBEX SO THAT THE WHOLE BOARD IS IN ONE PLACE.
WE CAN'T HAVE SOME PEOPLE ONE PLACE AND OTHERS ANOTHER I WOULD EITHER DO ALL OR NOTHING.
AND THAT'S THE WAY WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IT.
THE ONLY THING I HAVE TO CHECK IS, UM, WE WERE GIVEN THE CISCO WEBEX LICENSE, UM, THAT'S RIGHT.
AND I CAN'T, I HAVE TO VERIFY THERE WAS SOME CONFLICTING CONVERSATION WHETHER OR NOT OUR TRIAL RUN ENDED AT, ON THE 1ST OF JULY OR IF IT WAS IN THE MIDDLE.
SO I'LL VERIFY THAT TOMORROW, SARAH, SO THAT, UM, MAYBE YOU, ME AND BILL SHOULD TOUCH BASE AND JUST FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GONNA HANDLE THE JULY 1ST AND THEN YEAH, THAT'LL BE IMPORTANT TO KNOW.
AND THEN, UM, WE CAN EITHER, WE'LL DEFINITELY MEET FRIDAY BILL, UH, JUST TO GO OVER WHAT MY INITIAL PLAN IS, BUT I'LL HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE SUPERVISOR TOMORROW TO GET HIS THOUGHTS AND HOW HE FEELS.
UM, THESE MEETINGS SHOULD, YOU KNOW, PROCEED MOVING FORWARD.
THE GOOD PART ABOUT JULY 1ST HAS NO PUBLIC HEARING, RIGHT.
BUT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL ME BY TOMORROW, BY THE END OF THE DAY TOMORROW, HOW THE, THE LEGAL NOTICE SHOULD BE WORDED.
WELL, WHAT, WHAT'S THE BOARD'S FEELING? DO YOU, YOU KNOW, I, I I REALLY DON'T WANNA GO TO TOWN HALL TO BE HONEST.
I THINK WE'RE IN THE SAME SPOT THAT WE WOULD'VE BEEN A MONTH AGO, WHERE IF WE'RE GONNA TRY AND HAVE A MEETING AT TOWN HALL, WE PROBABLY WON'T HAVE A QUORUM.
JUST A REMINDER, FOLKS, WE'RE STILL LIVE STREAMING.