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DID YOU BRING IT UP FOR THE
IF YOU WOULD PLEASE RISE ALLEGIANCE.
APPRECIATE I PGI THE, THE UNITED STATES LIBERTY, AND IF YOU WOULD REMAIN STATED FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE IN HONOR OF THOSE WHO HAVE, UH, PAID THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE IN DEFENSE OF OUR NATION.
AND WELCOME TO THE NOVEMBER THIS ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAD TO CANCEL THE NOVEMBER, UH, MEETING.
UM, SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE THEIR, UH, THAT, UH, AGENDA FOR DECEMBER AND WE WILL MEET AGAIN TWO WEEKS FROM TODAY.
SO WITHOUT ANY, I, I NORMALLY, I, UH, LET EVERYONE KNOW WHAT THE GROUND RULES ARE, BUT EVERYONE HERE ALREADY KNOWS.
SO, MR. CHA, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE READ THE NOTICE.
LEGAL NOTICE, TOWN OF HAMBURG, BO UH, BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS MEETING.
TOWN OF HAMBURG, UH, BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS WILL MEET ON TUESDAY, DECEMBER 1ST, 2000, UH 20 AT 7:00 PM IN ROOM SEVEN B OF THE HAMBURG TOWN HALL.
THE MEETING WILL BE LIVE STREAM TO THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, FACEBOOK PAGE, TOWN OF HAMBURG, NEW YORK.
THE BOARD WILL CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING APPLICATIONS, APPLICATION NUMBER ONE, TABLE APPLICATION, FIVE A TWO EIGHT, HAMBURG, MCKINLEY PARK, LLC.
ALRIGHT, BEFORE, UH, BEFORE WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT, UM, LET ME REMIND THOSE AT HOME, OUR MEMBERS AT HOME TO, UH, MUTE YOURSELF.
UNLESS YOU'RE SPEAKING, MAKE SURE YOU PUT YOURSELF ON MUTE.
UM, AND I BELIEVE THAT'S, UH, THAT'S IT.
GOOD EVENING CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS.
SEAN HOPKINS FROM THE LAW FIRM OF HOPKINS, GEORGIA MCCARTHY ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, HAMBURG MCKINLEY PARKWAY, LLC.
I'M ALSO GONNA LET ADAM INTRODUCE HIMSELF.
I'M ADAM LESKI, DIRECTOR OF REAL ESTATE WITH RAYMAR FLANAGAN FURNITURE.
ADAM BRIEFED THE DRIVE TO SYRACUSE FROM SYRACUSE TO BE HERE.
WE'RE HERE IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 34 64 MCKINLEY PARKWAY, WHICH IS ZONED C TWO GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, SLIGHTLY MORE THAN FOUR ACRES IN SIZE.
UH, AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN EXISTING RAYMORE AND FLANAGAN OUTLET STORE THERE, AND THERE'S ALSO ROOM FOR THREE ADDITIONAL TENANTS.
UM, THIS SITE FORMERLY WAS TO XR US.
I DON'T KNOW IF MANY OF YOU RECALL, BUT IT PREVIOUSLY HAD A VERY LARGE POLE SIGN LOCATED NEAR THE CORNER AND ALSO HAD BUILDING SIGNAGE.
RAYMORE AND FLANAGAN ACQUIRED THIS PROPERTY AS WELL AS NEARLY 20 MORE OUT OF BANKRUPTCY FROM TOYS R US.
THAT'S WHY THERE WAS A MISTAKE WITH RESPECT TO THE EXISTING BUILDING SIGNAGE.
THE SIGN CONSULTANT WAS DIRECTED TO GET THE SIGNAGE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
APPARENTLY THEY MISUNDERSTOOD AND THOUGHT THAT A PERMIT WAS NOT NEEDED IF THEY REPLACED THE SIGN WITH SIGN OF THE SAME SIGNAGE.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, IF THE REQUESTED VARIANCES ARE GRANTED DECEIVING, OBVIOUSLY WE'LL THEN PULL THE PERMIT PAID.
THE FEES, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR, WAS AN OVERSIGHT.
UNFORTUNATELY, UH, IT WAS DONE BY THE SIGNED CONSULTANT.
ADAM'S JOB IS TO TRY AND CLEAN THAT UP AND MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL GOOD GOING FORWARD.
WE'RE SEEKING FIVE VARIANCES FROM THIS BOARD IN CONNECTION WITH THE SIGNAGE.
THE FIRST ONE IS FOR THE SETBACK FROM THE MONUMENT SIGN FROM MILES STRIP ROAD, 20 FOOT SETBACK REQUIRED VERSUS 13.2 FEET.
WE'RE ALSO SEEKING A VARIANCE FOR THE HEIGHT OF THE MONUMENT SIGN.
AND KEEP IN MIND REPLACING WHAT WAS FORMERLY A POLE SIDE AND DELIBERATELY NOT SEEKING AN AREA VARIANCE FOR A POLE SIGN.
THE HEIGHT OF THE SIGN IS 10 FEET VERSUS EIGHT FEET PERMITTED.
WE DON'T THINK THAT'S A HIGH SIGN IN TERMS OF HOW LARGE A SITE IT IS.
AND THE NEED FOR MULTIPLE TENANT IDENTIFICATION SIZE OR AREA OF THE SIGN IS ALSO LARGER.
A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET PROPOSED VERSUS 40 SQUARE FEET PERMITTED.
WE DID INCLUDE OUR COLOR SIGNAGE PLANS WITHIN THE APPLICATION.
AND WE THINK IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND NOTE THAT OBVIOUSLY WE NEED SIGNAGE FOR THE EXISTING RAIN MOOREN FLANAGAN OUTLET STORE, AS WELL AS THREE FUTURE TENANTS.
I DON'T THINK IT'S IN ANY INAPPROPRIATELY SALE SCALE SIZE.
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VARIANCES ARE FOR THE SIGNAGE THAT'S THERE TODAY.UH, IT'S THE FIRST ONE IS FOR THE EXISTING RAINN FLANIGAN WALL SIGN ON THE FRONT FACADE ALONG MILES STRIP, 120 SQUARE FEET PERMITTED AND 160 FEET PROPOSED.
AND THEN CONVERSELY ALONG MCKINLEY PARKWAY, 160 FEET PROPOSED AND 120 SQUARE FEET, UM, PERMITTED.
WE DID INCLUDE THAT ALSO IN OUR APPLICATION.
AND I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THAT BUILDING SIGNAGE AND COMPARE IT TO THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A BUILDING THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 46,000 SQUARE FEET, I DO THINK IT'S APPROPRIATELY SIZED AND SCALED BUILDING SIGNAGE.
THIS REQUEST FOR AREA VARIANCES, AS IS THE CASE WITH ANY OTHER REQUEST, IS GOVERNED BY THE BALANCING TEST AND THE FIVE CRITERIA SET FORTH IN TOWN LAW SECTION 2 67 B THREE B WITHIN EXHIBIT TWO OF THE APPLICATION, THE AMENDED APPLICATION FILED ON OCTOBER 16TH.
WE SPELLED THAT OUT IN GREAT DETAIL.
WE THINK THERE, THERE'S CLEARLY SUBSTANTIAL BENEFITS TO THE APPLICANT AND WE DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY RESULTING DETRIMENTS TO THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD OR COMMUNITY.
MOST IMPORTANTLY, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY AREA VARIANCES ASSOCIATED WITH THE EXISTING TWO WALL SIGNS.
WE'D LIKE TO LEAVE THOSE THERE.
IN THE ABSENCE OF THAT REQUESTED VARIANCE, WE WOULD LITERALLY HAVE TO REMOVE THOSE SIGNS AND REPLACE THEM WITH SLIGHTLY SMALLER SIGNS.
AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE AREA VARIANCES THAT PERTAIN TO THE MONUMENT SIGN, THE PRIMARY BENEFITS ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE THREE AREA VARIANCES IS WE CAN HAVE AN APPROPRIATELY SIZED SIDE TO ACCOMMODATE FUTURE TENANTS.
AS EVERYONE KNOWS, THE FUTURE RETAIL IS LESS THAN CERTAIN THESE DAYS, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT PERSPECTIVES COMMERCIAL TENANT LOOK AT IS WHAT CAN WE DO IN TERMS OF SIGNAGE.
SO WE WANT TO OFFER THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE NICE CLEAN NEW SIGNAGE THAT WOULD BE VISIBLE FROM THOSE TWO STREETS.
IN TERMS OF THE FIVE CRITERIA, WHETHER OR NOT THERE'LL BE UNDESIRABLE CHANGE IN THE CARE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR DETRIMENT TO NEARBY PROPERTY OWNERS.
THINK THE ANSWER TO THAT IS NO QUESTION.
NUMBER TWO, WHETHER THERE ARE ANY ALTERNATIVES THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO NOT SEEK THE REQUESTED RELIEF THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR FROM THIS BOARD.
THINK THE ANSWER TO THAT IS ALSO NO.
AGAIN, WITH IT BEING NOTED THAT THIS IS A LARGE BUILDING, MULTI-TENANT AND APPROPRIATELY SCALED SIGNAGE CRITERIA NUMBER THREE IS WHETHER THE GRANTING THE REQUESTED RELIEF RESULT ADVERSE OR PHYSICAL IMPACTS ON THE ENVIRONMENT.
I THINK THE ANSWER TO THAT IS NO.
PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD CRITERIA.
NUMBER FOUR IS WHETHER OR NOT THE REQUESTED RELIEF IS SUBSTANTIAL.
I THINK THE ANSWER TO THAT IS ALSO NO.
IN THE CASE LAW ON THAT PARTICULAR CRITERIA REALLY DEALS WITH WILL ANY HARM RESULT FROM THE GRANT THROUGH THE REQUEST OF YOUR RELIEF.
AND THEN THE FINAL CRITERIA, ALTHOUGH IT CANNOT BE DETERMINATIVE, IS WHETHER OR NOT THE REQUEST OF YOUR RELIEF IS A RESULT OF A SELF-CREATED HARDSHIP WITH RESPECT TO THE BUILDING SIGNAGE, GIVEN THAT WE'RE THE OWNER, WE HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE YES, IT IS.
WITH RESPECT TO THE MONUMENT SIDE, I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE DEBATABLE BECAUSE WHAT THE SIGN CODE DOES NOT ACCOMMODATE IS DIFFERENT SIZED PARCELS WITH DIFFERENT SIZED BUILDINGS.
AGAIN, THIS IS A LARGE PARCEL WITH A LARGE MULTI-TENANT BUILDING THAT WAS ALREADY THERE.
DOES HAVE CURRENT VACANCIES, FORMERLY HAD A TOYS R US AND BUT FOR RAYMORE AND FLANAGAN, THAT BUILDING WOULD STILL PROBABLY REMAIN VACANT.
WE'RE LOOKING TO LEASE THE REMAINDER OF THAT SPACE.
THERE ARE DISCUSSIONS WITH PROSPECTIVE TENANTS CAN IDENTIFY WHO THOSE ARE AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE DO.
THEN CLEARLY THAT ASPECT OF THE VARIANCE IS NOT AS A RESULT OF A SELF-CREATED HARDSHIP.
SO WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU GRANT THE FIVE REQUESTED AREA VARIANCES.
WE THINK IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE BALANCING TEST AND THE FIVE CRITERIA.
NEITHER MYSELF OR ADAM WOULD WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD MAY HAVE.
THERE'S, UH, SKETCHERS OVER THERE.
SO THAT IS IN THAT, THAT COMPLEX THEN? YES.
SO THERE'S, IT'S IT'S IN THE IT'S IN THE BUILDING, YES.
AND THEY WILL OCCUPY ONE OF THE PANELS ON THE MONUMENT SIDE.
AND THAT'S, UM, SO YOU HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL TENANTS YOU'RE LOOKING FOR NOW, RIGHT? YEAH.
TWO ADDITIONAL TENANTS, SEAN, QUESTION, WHEN THEY ORDERED ALL THE SIGNAGE FOR ALL THE, THE BUILDINGS, RIGHT? WAS IT LIKE A BULK ORDER WHERE EVERYTHING WAS JUST ORDERED AT ONCE AND THEN PUT UP AT ONCE? WE DO USE THE SAME SIGNAGE VENDOR.
UM, BUT WITH ALL THE, WE BOUGHT ABOUT 15 DIFFERENT TOYS R US PROPERTIES THROUGHOUT THE NORTHEAST.
SO LIKE SEAN SAID, THERE WAS A LOT GOING ON FOR OUR, OUR LOAN SIGNAGE VENDOR THAT HANDLES ALL OUR PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE NORTHEAST.
AND WE TRY TO ROLL THESE STORES OUT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO NOT ONLY FILL THE VACANCY, BUT NOT TO, TO CARRY A VAC BUILDING.
UM, SO, BUT THE SIGNAGE WAS DIFFERENT IN EACH LOCATION.
AND HERE, I BELIEVE THE CODE ALLOWS 120 SQUARE FEET OF SIGNAGE.
AND I THINK THAT IS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE WORDING, RIGHT? THE BACKGROUND, THE PURPLE BACKING IS COUNTED AGAINST THE CODE.
IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A SLIP UP BY OUR VENDOR THERE.
AND AS THE BOARD IS AWARE, WE ONLY FOUND OUT ABOUT THAT AFTER WE FILED THE VARIANCE APPLICATION.
THAT MESSAGE WAS RELAYED BACK.
WE AMENDED THE VARIANCE APPLICATION RIGHT AWAY.
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WE APOLOGIZE FOR THAT OVERSIGHT.I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE SIGNAGE ITSELF, IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE BUILDING.
ANY, UH, ANY QUESTIONS FROM OUR, UH, FOLKS AT HOME? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? BRAD, DO YOU WANT ME TO CHECK FACEBOOK WHILE WE'RE YEAH, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE, IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS.
IT LOOKS LIKE ONE OF OUR APPLICANTS IS ON FACEBOOK, BUT WE'LL GET TO THAT LATER I GUESS.
IT'S A DETERMINE WHAT I'LL FIGURE IT OUT.
BUT, UH, WE'LL ALL, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS THOUGH FOR, FOR MR. HOPKINS? NOPE.
YOU WE'RE GONNA STICK AROUND TILL THE END FOR THE VOTE.
IF YOU, UH, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, ABOUT YOUR PROJECT, WHAT YOU'RE DOING, WHY, ET CETERA.
WELL, WE PUT A NEW PULL HORN UP GARAGE AND WHEN WE WERE ORIGINALLY REFINING IT, WE WANTED TO PUT A LEAN TUBE STRUCTURE OFF THE BACK OF IT.
BUT WHEN MY WIFE WENT TO GET THE PERMIT, SHE WAS TOLD THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO LOSE OUR SHED FOR THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND WE REALLY DIDN'T WANT DO THAT.
SO SHE JUST GOT THE PERMIT FOR THE BUILDING, BUT THEN WE THOUGHT, OH, OTHERWISE THAT WE WOULD WANT TO HAVE THAT PUT ON.
SO WE WENT BACK TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND THEY SAID WE WOULD NEED A VARIANCE FOR IT FOR 144 SQUARE FEET.
AND IS THIS ALREADY, UH, BEEN UNDER CONSTRUCTION THIS LIE TOO? NO, THE POLE BARN IS UP, BUT THE, THE LINK WITH THEM NOTHING, NO FOOTERS? NO, UH, NO NOTHING.
THE FOOTERS IS THEY DID THE CONCRETE AND THEY PUT THE FOOTERS IN THERE JUST IN CASE THEY, THIS, EVERYTHING GOES THROUGH
UM, KIND OF PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE A LITTLE BIT.
YOU JUST WANTED TO GET THE CONCRETE DOWN BEFORE THE SNOW FLY.
SO ARE YOU REMOVING THE SHED? NO, WE'RE NOT.
HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL AREAS YOU LEAN TO? I BELIEVE IT'S 144 44.
SARAH, DID WE GET ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS? UM, BESIDES WHAT I SENT YOU? I'M JUST, UH, JUST THE ONE THAT MARK WAS INTERESTED IN.
WAS IT MARK BARRICADE? NO, NO, THAT'S ON DECEMBER 15TH.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? NO.
ANYONE FROM HOME HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO.
NEXT APPLICATION'S 58 30 WE UP YOU HERE THE ZONING BOARD? YEAH.
UM, WHAT DO YOU KNOW WHAT APPLICATION'S YOURS? UH, IT'S ON FIFTH STREET, UH, THE CARATI APPLICATION.
SO HAVE A SEAT IN THE OTHER ROOM.
WE'LL CALL YOU WHEN THAT'S, UH, WHEN THAT COMES UP.
SO THIS, THIS GETTING PIECE 58 30 ROBERT AND SARAH B GRAND THREE, UH, AREA VARIANCE FOR, UH, RESIDENTIAL EDITION AT 46 31 TRAYTON PARK.
ALRIGHT, SO WHAT DO YOU, WHAT ARE YOU PLANNING ON DOING HERE? UM, WE'RE HOPING TO ADD AN ADDITION LIKE ANOTHER LIVING ROOM AREA.
AND CURRENTLY, UM, OUR GARAGE IS, WE'RE
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TRYING TO ADD IT SO IT'S EVEN WITH THE GARAGE.UM, TAKE OUT OUR BACK DECK AND REDO OUR KITCHEN ALSO.
YOU NEED THE BEARING, YOU WANNA, UH, MAKE THINGS PLUMB? IS THAT WHAT IT IS? UM, YOU SEE HERE YOU'S THE RECONFIGURATION OF THE ADDITION ADDITION, WHICH WOULD DIMINISH THE REAR YARD.
AND WILL NOT WORK AS WELL IN RELATION TO THE KITCHEN.
SO THAT'S NOT REALLY A FEASIBLE ALTERNATIVE VISIT.
HAVE YOU TALKED TO YOUR NEIGHBORS? NO ONE IS SUPPOSED TO THE PROJECT? YES.
UM, EVEN A COUPLE CAME OVER AND JUST CURIOUS ON WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO, BUT THE NEIGHBOR THAT'S THE CLOSEST TO WHERE IT WAS, SHE WAS FINE WITH EVERYTHING.
BUT YOU'RE NOT ACTUALLY GOING ANY CLOSER TO THE SIDE YARD THAN YOU ALREADY ARE, RIGHT? UM, IT'S, THERE'S JUST NO BUILDING WHERE THAT IS.
I MEAN, THE DECK IS THERE, RIGHT.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM, UH, THOSE AT HOME? NO.
ANYONE ELSE HERE? ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.
I'M, UH, THE HOMEOWNER AT 65 59 TAYLOR ROAD, AND TODAY WE ARE LOOKING FOR A SIDEWALK VARIANCE TO, UH, ATTACH A TWO CAR GARAGE TO OUR CURRENT EXISTING STRUCTURE.
UM, RIGHT NOW, UH, WE ARE WITHIN ZONING LAWS TO GO AHEAD AND BUILD IT AS A DETACHED GARAGE.
AND WHEN THE ARCHITECT CAME TO TAKE A LOOK, HE SAID, WHY AREN'T YOU PUTTING A LITTLE BREEZEWAY TO CONNECT IT TO YOUR CURRENT HOUSE? UM, IN DOING SO, UH, WE ARE REQUIRED TO BE 30 FEET OFF THE LINE.
RIGHT NOW, AS A DETACHED GARAGE, YOU ONLY HAVE TO BE FIVE FEET AS LONG AS YOU'RE 10 FEET AWAY FROM THE HOUSE.
UM, CURRENTLY THE WAY THAT IT'S DRAWN UP, IT IS DRAWN UP NINE FEET AWAY FROM THE HOUSE.
SO IN ESSENCE, DETTA OR ATTACHING IT ACTUALLY PUTS IT ONE FOOT CLOSER TO THE HOUSE AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
UM, SO BASICALLY THE VARIANCE IS ALLOWING US TO BUILD THIS LITTLE WALKWAY ROOFED WALKWAY BETWEEN THE DECA DETACHED GARAGE AND THE CURRENT STRUCTURE.
LAURA, DID YOU SAY NINE FEET? YEAH, CURRENTLY IT IS DRAWN UP IS NINE FEET.
OKAY, SO WE HAVE IT AS SIX AND A HALF.
UM, THE BREEZEWAY IS NINE FEET FROM THE EXISTING STRUCTURE.
IF IT IS ATTACHED, IT'LL BE SEVEN FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
BUT IF IT IS DETACHED, IT HAS TO BE SIX FEET BECAUSE I HAVE TO MOVE IT A FOOT FURTHER AWAY FROM MY CURRENT HOUSE.
IT'S JUST SHIPPING A SEVEN FOOT.
SO BASICALLY THE VARIANCE IS JUST ALLOWING US TO PUT THE LITTLE BREEZE WAY WALKWAY BETWEEN THE TWO STRUCTURES.
AND THEN IF YOU DON'T, UH, IF YOU DON'T GET THE VARIANCE, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS TO, DO YOU PLAN? OUR PLANS ARE TO, TO BUILD THE DE DETACHED GARAGE.
'CAUSE WE'RE WITHIN, WE'VE BEEN APPROVED FROM THE ZONING PERSPECTIVE FOR THAT.
NOW I SEE YOU HAVE A PICTURE IN HERE THAT, UH, THIS WILL, UH, LOOK SIMILAR TO.
AND I HAVE IT BLOWN UP IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SEE A BIGGER COPY.
AND I SEE THERE'S A, THERE'S A PEAK HERE.
WHAT, UH, YOU GOT STORAGE ABOVE THERE OR JUST RAFTERS? IT'S JUST TRUSSES.
NO PLANS ON GOING UP AT ANY POINT? NO, NO SECOND FLOOR.
I THINK TOBOGGANING SLED SKIS MIGHT BE UP THERE.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM, UH, OUR MEMBERS AT HOME? NO.
ANYONE, UH, HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ALL THE ITEM? DOES ANYONE WANNA LOOK AT A CLOSER VERSION OF THIS? I'VE GOT IT.
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SIR.YOU, UH, YOU HAVE SOME, UH, COMMENTS OR, UH, YES.
YOU WANT ME TO OUT THERE TOO OR? YEAH, IF YOU SWAP PLACES, WE'LL, UH, I TAKE IT YOU'RE NOT TOGETHER.
MY WIFE IS KAREN DOKI, AND THE ADDRESS IS 6 5 5 1 TAYLOR ROAD NEXT DOOR.
AND RIGHT NOW THEIR PROPERTY IS 40, 40 FEET FROM THE LINE AND 46 6 FEET FROM THEIR ATTACHED THEIR GARAGE THAT THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW.
UM, THEY DO HAVE A PROPERTY, UH, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PROPERTY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LOT RIGHT NOW THAT THEY COULD POSSIBLY DO A GARAGE.
AND WE DON'T WANT THEM THAT CLOSE BECAUSE TO BE SIX AND A HALF FEET, THAT'S QUITE CLOSE COMPARED TO 40 FEET.
AND MY WIFE'S BEEN IN THAT PROPERTY FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS RIGHT NOW, AND I DO HAVE PICTURES OF THE PROPERTY.
ANY QUESTION YOU DO REALIZE FROM WHAT THE APPLICANT JUST SAID, THAT REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE DO, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A GARAGE EITHER SIX FEET OR SEVEN FEET AWAY.
EITHER WAY, IT'S GONNA BE SEVEN FEET.
SHE'S BUILDING A GARAGE, SHE'S BUILDING IT THERE.
AND NOW ARE YOU AWARE OF THE HEIGHT AND THE PROPERTY? SHE, FOR RIGHT NOW, IT'S ALMOST THREE FEET HIGH COMPARED TO OUR PROPERTY WHERE THE GARAGE IS RIGHT NOW.
WELL, IT, THE HEIGHT IS NOT A, UM, THE HEIGHT'S NOT AN ISSUE AS FAR AS THE VARIANCE IS CONCERNED.
UM, THE HEIGHT THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS WITHIN THE, UH, WITHIN THE CODE.
UH, WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT, UH, SIDE YARD, UH, SIDE YARD RIGHT NOW.
UM, BUT, UH, YEAH, IT LOOKS LIKE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, UM, YOU KNOW, SHE'S, THEY'RE GONNA BUILD THE, UH, THE GARAGE THERE, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S GONNA BE SEVEN OR SIX, UM, AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY'LL HAVE A COVERED BREEZEWAY OR NOT REMAINS TO BE SEEN.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE, AT THIS POINT, WHAT, UH, NOW ARE YOU MAKING A FINAL DECISION RIGHT AWAY BEFORE ANY PICTURES OR? WELL, WE, NO ONE'S BEING ANY DECISION RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE STILL LISTENING TO TESTIMONY, EVIDENCE, THAT TYPE OF THING.
SO, BUT IF YOU HAVE PICTURES THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY AND THEY HAVE AN EXTRA SIDE, THEY HAVE AN EXTRA LINE.
THE OTHER SIDE THAT THEY COULD PUT A GARAGE, THEY DO HAVE A CURB DRIVER THAT GOES TO THAT ACCESS.
SO THEY ACTUALLY PUT TO THE GARAGE AND NEXT SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AND HAVE PLENTY AROUND.
MAY I RESPOND TO THAT? YEAH, WE'LL GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO.
UM, WELL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR, UH, MR. DABROWSKI RIGHT NOW? IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO ADD MR. DOBROWSKI? UH, NO.
EVERYONE, MAKE SURE YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE PICTURES.
THANK AND, UH, MA'AM YEAH, IF YOU WOULD, YOU WANNA RESPOND TO, UH, THANK YOU.
SO THE, UH, THE HALF LOT THAT WE DO OWN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE GARAGE, THERE'S NO ENTRANCE TO OUR HOME OVER THERE.
IT'S ALL BEDROOMS. UM, SO THERE'S NO ENTRANCE TO GET INTO OUR HOME ON THAT SIDE.
UH, WHERE WE'RE PROPOSING, WELL, WELL, WHERE WE'RE GONNA BUILD THE TWO CAR GARAGE, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S ATTACHED OR DETACHED.
UM, THERE'S WHERE THE DOORS ARE LOCATED, ENTERING MY HOME.
AND IN FACT, IF THE VARIANCE IS APPROVED, IT MOVES THE STRUCTURE ACTUALLY A FOOT FURTHER AWAY FROM, I'M SORRY, MR. ROKI, UH, PROPERTY.
UM, AND CURRENTLY, UM, THEY'RE, THEY BUILT A WELL.
KAREN, HIS, HIS NEW WIFE AND HER LATE HUSBAND BUILT A THREE BAY GARAGE FIVE FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, WHICH IS CURRENTLY WHAT'S THERE.
AND FROM WHAT THE TOWN INSPECTOR TOLD ME WAS UN PERMITTED.
UM, SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE THEIR CURRENT GARAGE IS, IS FIVE FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
AND OURS, IF APPROVED, WILL BE SEVEN FEET FROM THE SAME PROPERTY LINE.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA BE FENCING ALONG IN THERE AS WELL.
COULD YOU ASK JEFF IF HE KNOWS WHETHER THERE'S A, THERE REQUIRED IF YOU, IF IF YOU DO A DETACHED GARAGE, IS THERE A REQUIRED DISTANCE? IT HAS TO BE AWAY FROM THE HO FROM A, A STRUCTURE IT IS.
SO YEAH, THERE'S FIRE CODE DOWN, RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS THOUGH.
SO, UM, FROM THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, MEANING MY HOME, THE CURRENT GARAGE, IT HAS TO BE 10 FEET AWAY.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING THAT UNDERSTAND I GOTTA PUSH IT ONE FOOT CLOSER TOWARDS HIM TO BUILD IT AS DETACHED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYONE, UH, AT HOME HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO.
ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD MR. DOMBROWSKI? NO.
MENTIONED OUR GARAGE HAS NO REFERENCE WITH US.
IT'S BEEN THERE FOR QUITE A WHILE NOW.
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PICTURES, PLEASE.THERE ARE TWO COMMENTS ON FACEBOOK.
UM, LINDSAY GOATS LIVES ACROSS THE STREET.
AND STELLE, M-A-C-I-A-G SAYS I HAVE NO OBJECTION.
AND THEN LINDSAY LINDSAY GOATS SAYS NO.
WHAT THOUGH? MEANING SHE DOESN'T HAVE AN OBJECTION? I DON'T KNOW.
OH, I CAN'T INFER THAT FROM NO.
WELL, SHE'S BEING VERY SUPPORTIVE.
NO, I'M SURE IF SHE HEARS, SHE'LL MAKE ANOTHER COMMENT, UH, TO THAT EFFECT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
SO CAN WE PUT THESE INTO THE RECORD? YEAH, DEFINITELY.
I WOULD, UM, IF, IF, UH, YOU HAVE THAT EXTRA SURE WE CAN PASS THIS WAY.
LINDSEY GOATS SAYS NO OBJECTION.
ALRIGHT, SO, UH, THIS IS, UH, UH, 58 32, UH, JAMES AND MARY CARMODY OVER, UH, FIFTH STREET, CORRECT? YEP.
AND YOU ARE SIR? UH, I'M, UH, THE OWNER OF ALL ACCESS BUILDERS.
YOUR NAME PLEASE? UH, RICHARD MATA.
RICHARD, HOW YOU SPELL YOUR LAST NAME? IT'S M-A-T-A-M-A-T-A.
UH, BASICALLY WE'RE PROPOSING AN 11 BY, UH, 21 FOOT, UM, ADDITION ON THE BACK OF THE HOUSE.
UH, FOR MEDICAL REASONS, THEY WANT TO ADD AN A DA SHOWER, UH, AND YOU KNOW, AN EASIER ACCESS INTO THE HOUSE, UM, FOR MRS. ANI.
UH, IT DOES AFFECT THE REAR YARD SETBACK.
UM, I'D BE LYING TO YOU IF I TOLD YOU EXACTLY WHAT THAT WAS RIGHT NOW.
I WAS ACTUALLY TRYING TO LOOK IT UP.
UH, CODE IS 30 FEET, I WOULD SAY.
YOU'RE ASKING FOR A 7.2 FOOT VARIANCE AND THE WHOLE ADDITION IS 285 SQUARE FEET.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? UM, WHAT THE, YOU SAID THE ADDITION'S GONNA BE FOR SHOWER? FOR SHOWER AND BEDROOM.
BRAD, I DID GET A CALL FROM THE MAN WHO LIVES DIRECTLY BEHIND THIS MM-HMM
PROPERTY AND HE HAS NO OBJECTION.
UH, LET SEE, YOU CAN'T GO SIDEWAYS.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYBODY? NO, THANK YOU, SIR.
THAT TEND IN PRETTY TIGHT? YEP.
THIS IS, UH, APPLICATION 58 33, RUN OVER.
WE'RE LOOKING TO RECONDITION OUR FRONT SIGN.
UH, THE SIGN'S BEEN THERE 30 YEARS OR SO, AND SO LOOKING LIKE IT'S BEEN THERE FOR 30 YEARS OR SO, SO WE MIGHT HAVE TO RECONDITION IT A LITTLE BIT.
UH, THE POLE IS RIDING OUT AND, UH, JUST, UH, THE SIGN'S GONNA BE EXACTLY THE SAME AS IT IS RIGHT NOW.
WE JUST WANT TO CHANGE THE LETTERING ON IT A LITTLE BIT.
UM, MODERNIZE IT A LITTLE BIT.
AND I HAVE A COPY OF THE CODE HERE.
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WHAT WE'RE DOING, UH, CONFIRMS WITH THE CODE, COMBINES WITH THE CODE.UH, WELL, IT, UH, PROHIBITS POLE SIGNS IS THE EXISTING, IT ALSO PROHIBITS, UM, ANY CHANGES TO A POLE SIGN.
THAT'S THEIR, THE, THE CODES ARE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE OR REQUIRE MONUMENT SIGNS, IS THAT THAT'S REALLY WHAT THEIR, UH, THEIR GOAL IS.
RIGHT? UH, WE, UH, ASKED ABOUT A MONUMENT SIGN, BUT WHERE THIS CURRENT SIGN IS, IT'S TOO CLOSE TO THE CORNER AND WE WOULD HAVE TO MOVE IT DOWN.
IT'S THE MIDDLE OF OUR PARKING LOT, WHICH WOULDN'T WORK FOR US, SO MM-HMM
THE EASIEST WAY, UH, WOULD BE TO RECONDITION THIS SIGN.
I HAVE, UH, SOME COPIES OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO HERE IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IN THE ALL.
AND I THINK I HANDED IN THIS TO SIGN THE WAY IT IS NOW.
SEE BRENT, THIS IS RIGHT PAST, YOU BELIEVE IN THE VILLAGE? MM-HMM
JUST AS YOU'RE COMING WHERE HE IS, IT GOES TO FOUR.
AND THEN THAT INNER OR THAT NEXT SIDE STREET, IS THAT RON? IS THAT STALEY? STALEY DRIVE? YEAH.
WE GAVE HIM A APPEARANCE, UH, ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO FOR THE ADDITIONAL, YEAH, THE REAR YARD STUFF.
BUT AS THIS GOES TO FOUR LANES, IF YOU HAD A MONUMENT SIGN UP, PULL RIGHT THERE AT THE CORNER.
YEAH, WE PUT UP A NEW SHOP IN THE BACK.
UH, APPRECIATE YOUR HELP WITH THAT.
WE ALSO ARE, WE REMODELED THE WHOLE FRONT BUILDING AND THEN THE ONLY THING LEFT IS THIS SIGN IS KIND OF MAKING IT, THAT'S THE ONLY THING LOOKING OLD ON, ON THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW.
SO WE CAN GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF, SCOOPED IT UP.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? ANY, UH, FROM THOSE AT HOME? NO.
WELL, WE GOT A A ON, UM, A FACEBOOK COMMENT FROM MR. CARMODY WHO WAS THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION.
HE SAID MY WIFE HAD A STROKE AND CANNOT GO UPSTAIRS ANYMORE.
THAT'S WHY THEY, UH, ABOUT, UM, THAT'S WHY THEY, SIX MONTHS AGO, I GUESS SHE GOT SICK.
AND THIS JUST PART OF THE, THE REMEDY.
THIS IS APPLICATION, UH, 58 34.
JUNE MILLER, 52 92 BAYVIEW ROAD.
UM, GO AHEAD AND TELL US WHAT YOU'RE, UH, WHAT YOU'RE DOING THAT YOU ARE MS. MS. MILLER? YES.
UM, WELL, WE'RE LOOKING FOR MORE STORAGE FOR OUR SUPPLIES FOR THE GREENHOUSE PLANNERS WITH GREENHOUSE EQUIPMENT.
IT'S HARD TO GET SOME OF THE STUFF IN IF YOU GET SUPPLY, IF WE RUN OUT, IT TAKES, I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS FOR FEW WEEKS TO GET STUFF.
UM, WE WANT THE HEIGHT FOR THE BUILDING TO BE 16, 16 FEET HIGH SO WE CAN GET TRACTOR TRAILERS TO PARK RIGHT IN THERE TO HELP UNLOAD AND TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE ACCESSIBLE FOR THE TRACTORS TO GET OFF THE ROAD QUICKER SO THEY WON'T TIE UP TRAFFIC.
UM, ANOTHER PLACE TO PUT UP ORDERS.
SO OUR HELP IS NOT ON TOP OF ONE ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, SO WE CAN SPACE THEM OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, DIRECT MORE DELIVERIES AWAY FROM OUR RETAIL STAND SO THEY CAN GET BACK FARTHER AWAY FROM THE MARKET AND JUST HELP REARRANGE OTHER BUILDINGS FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR EMPLOYEES.
SO THEY'RE SPACED OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
AND THIS IS ADDING ONTO THAT EXISTING BUILDING.
IT WON'T BE ADDING ONTO THE EXISTING BUILDING.
IT'LL BE 40 CREEK FROM THE OTHER BUILDING CREEK.
I CHECKED OUT WITH SARAH THE OTHER DAY.
EVERY TIME SHE BUILDS BUILDS A BARN SHE HAS.
RIGHT? WELL, I'M, I'M, I KNOW THAT'S, I SAW THE SAME THING AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'VE REZONED HOW MANY, UH, HOW MANY TIMES SINCE YOU'VE OWNED THE PROPERTY? AT LEAST, AT LEAST ONCE OR TWICE, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
THAT'S JUST, UH, IN INTERESTING.
I, I'LL CALL IT INTERESTING THAT IT'S R ONE TRYING TO COME IN
I GUESS SOMEONE MIGHT THINK IT, IT
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LOOK, IT WOULD LOOK GOOD AS A SUB, UH, SUBDIVISION.IS THAT WHAT, UH, RICK DOWN HERE, RICK, PUT THAT ON OUR LIST.
SEND, IF WE CAN'T, UM, I MEAN, AT LEAST RA YOUR PRESENT BUSINESS.
GOOD TO SEE THAT YOUR, UH, YOUR BUSINESS IS DOING EVERYTHING LOOKING NICE AND THAT KEEP IT LOOKING FRESH.
WELL, WE THAT, UH, DO, UM, YES, DO KEEP IN MIND THAT HAMBURG IS A RIGHT TO FARM COMMUNITY, RIGHT.
TO KEEP OUR, YOU KEEP THAT IN MIND.
THAT'S, UH, IT'S PART OF OUR, THE CHARM OF HAMBURG AND OUR IDENTITY AS A TOWN.
SO ANY QUESTIONS, UH, FROM THOSE AT ALL? NO.
ANYONE, UH, HEAR OF ANY QUESTIONS? YES.
I SEE WE HAVE A GENTLEMAN HERE IN THE ROOM, YOUR SUPPORT.
UM, AND SARAH, WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING? UH, NO.
I REMEMBER COMING BEFORE, 'CAUSE IT SOMEBODY SHOP.
THEY HAVE, SHE WAS JUST HERE A COUPLE YEARS AGO FOR THEIR FIRST PERMISSION.
UH, APPLICATION 58, 35 TIMOTHY AND DIANA TROUB, UH, 45 89 MOUNT VERNON BOULEVARD.
LET'S, UH, WHAT, UH, WAS IT THAT YOU, YOU'RE LOOKING TO DO, PLEASE? WELL, WE HAVE A, UM, A DECK BEHIND OUR HOUSE.
UM, WE'D LIKE TO ENCLOSE IT AS A SUN RULE.
WE WOULD NOT BE EXTENDING THE DECK IN ANY WAY BEYOND ITS, ITS CURRENT, UM, DIMENSIONS.
IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
THE HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 19, LATE 1920S.
AND, UH, THE ZONING ORDINANCES HAVE PROBABLY CHANGED QUITE A BIT SINCE THEN.
BUT THE HOUSE ISN'T GONNA GO ANYWHERE.
AND THE, AND THE DECK, WE WOULD NOT, AGAIN, WOULD NOT BE EXTENDING THE DECK AT ALL, WOULD JUST BE ENCLOSING MOST OF IT WITH THE SUNROOM.
WE DO HAVE TWO PICTURES IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT WE HAVE PLANNED.
WE, I'D LOVE TO, UH, COMMISSIONER YODER.
SO WE'VE GOT AN EXISTING NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURE THAT, UH, IS LESS THAN TWO FEET FROM YOUR SIDE YARD AT ITS CLOSEST POINT, WHICH PROBABLY HALF THE HOUSE IS IN MOUNT VERNON, UH, AREA ARE SIMILAR OR HAVE SOME SORT OF NONCONFORMING ATTRIBUTE.
I TOOK A RIDE THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THERE'S A, THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, EXISTING NONCONFORMING.
NOW THE, THE SUN ROOM ITSELF WOULD START AT THE FAR END OF THE DECK.
THE RAILINGS WOULD BE REMOVED, BUT IT WOULD END BEFORE THE BACK DOOR.
SO WE WOULD CONTINUE TO USE THE BACK DOOR AS OUR MAIN ENTRANCE.
THE SUNROOM WOULD HAVE SLIDING DOORS, BUT THE, THE BACK DOOR WOULD REMAIN.
SO IT WOULDN'T FULLY COVER THE DECK, BUT IT WOULD EXTEND TO THE EDGE OF THE DECK THIS WAY.
AND BUT YOU'RE NOT GETTING ANY CLOSER THIS WAY AT ALL? NO, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T.
UM, AND OUR, MY, IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT OUR NEIGHBORS NEXT DOOR, THE CEPHAS HAVE RESPONDED TO YOUR INQUIRY AND HAVE THEY, THEY HAVE NOT INDICATED TO US ANY OBJECTION.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S NOTHING NEXT TO THE, THERE IS NO GARAGE.
THEIR HOUSE IS FARTHER BACK, SO IT'S JUST BASICALLY OPEN AIR IN THEIR DRIVEWAY.
THAT WOULD BE NEXT TO THAT SUN ROOM.
SUN NOT, NOT EXTEND TO THE EDGE OF THE HOUSE.
THERE'S A DISTANCE THERE BETWEEN THE END OF THE DECK AND THE END OF THE HOUSE.
SO BASICALLY CLOSE WHERE THE RAILINGS ARE.
ON THE EXISTING PORCH? CORRECT.
NOW, WE'VE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE.
SO DO YOU MAKE A DECISION THIS EVENING? SHOULD WE HANG AROUND? WE DO.
UH, TYPICALLY WE'LL MAKE A DECISION IN THE, UH, THE SAME EVENING.
UM, NOT ALWAYS, BUT, UH, IT'S TYPICALLY THE, THE CASE HOPEFUL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR US? UH, LET'S SEE.
ANYONE, UH, AT HOME? ANY QUESTIONS? NO.
NO? ANYONE ELSE HERE? UH, HAVE ANY
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QUESTIONS FOR, UH, MR. AND MRS. STRAU? ALRIGHT.PLACE COMMERCE, PLACE, COMMERCE.
JUST THE COMFORT IN, SORRY, THE, THE LAST ONE.
THE GENTLEMAN IS ON FACEBOOK AND HE'S ASKING IF HE CAN GET AN INVITE SO THAT HE CAN BE ON THE SCREEN AND TALK TO YOU.
WELL, UH, DO WE NOT HAVE COM THE COMFORT IN HERE? I DON'T THINK SO.
NO ONE'S HERE FROM COMFORT? NO COMFORT IN NOBODY HERE.
COMFORT IN HUH? MELE WHITE HEAD PROPERTIES.
MERL WHITEHEAD SOUNDS LIKE A GUY FROM THE FIFTIES THAT, UH, IN REAL ESTATE.
SO THINK HE SHOULD BE AN ACTOR? WELL, HE'S, HE'S THE SECOND AND HE HAS A SON WHO IS THE THIRD AND THEY CALL HIM M THREE
ISN'T THAT A BMW? THAT'S, I THOUGHT IT WAS A TAPE AND I BELIEVE ONE OF THREE.
OH THREE AND I BELIEVE ONE OF HIS GRANDSONS IS THE FOURTH NOW.
I'VE DONE A WORK WITH HIM FOR YEARS.
I COMFORT THAT SL THAT GOES DOWN COMING OFF THE CAMP.
AND YOU'VE NEVER SEE IT IF YOU DIDN'T.
WELL, AND THEY'RE RIGHT ON THE, UH, THE THROUGHWAY.
SO THEY'RE TYPICALLY, TYPICALLY THEY WANT THE SIGNS HIGH AS THEY NO, WE'VE HAD THAT HAPPEN BEFORE WHERE HE SAID, LOOK, WE CAN GET 50 FEET IN THE AIR.
WE'LL TAKE 50 FEET IN THE AIR.
YOU'LL TAKE, WE CAN GET HIGH AS WE CAN GET.
SO WE'RE GONNA NOT, WE'RE GONNA GET HIM AN INVITE ON.
WE SENT, WE JUST EMAILED HIM AN INVITE.
SO WE'RE WAITING FOR OUR LAST APPLICANT TO, UH, GET THE EMAIL AND JOIN US ON, UH, TV HERE.
IT'D BE NICHOLAS MILLER AT 29 75 AMS DELL ROAD.
SO THINK OF A LOT OF QUESTIONS FOR HIM.
BRAD, DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD BUMP THIS COMFORT INTO THE ADD IT TO THE BACK OF THE 15TH OF DECEMBER? OR JUST MAKE, JUST WAIT TILL JANUARY? WELL, WOULD WE HAVE, UM, IF IT CAN'T BE IN THE NOTICE, THEN NO.
YEAH, THE NOTICE GOES OFF TOMORROW.
IF WE CAN PUT IT ON THEN YEAH, WE PUT IT, UH, WE CAN PUT IT OUT AS A TABLED APPLICATION AS LONG AS IT MAKES THE, UH, THE NOTICE WE'RE COVERED.
WELL, WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR, UH, OUR
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SQUARE FOOT VARIANCE ON A, UH, 2,960 SQUARE FOOT, UH, INCLUDING SHED ROOF AND, UH, OVERHANG.I JUST GET A PHONE CALL FROM THE MAN WHO WAS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.
HE HAS NO OBJECTION BECAUSE OF THE ORIENTATION OF THE BUILDING.
SO WE'LL ONLY SEE THE SHORT END.
THAT'S WHY I HAVE THE QUESTION OF WHAT IT'S GONNA BE USED FOR.
WELL, IT'S GOT ANOTHER, IT'S GOT A GARAGE ON THE PROPERTY TOO, RIGHT? STRICTLY ONLY JUST HIS OWN STORAGE.
WELL, THAT, WELL, I READ THROUGH AND IT LOOKED LIKE TOYS, BOATS, CARS.
BUT AS LONG AS HE IS NOT CHARGING RENT TO SOMEONE, NOT RUNNING ANY KIND OF A BUSINESS, NO SECOND STORY WITH YEAH.
HAS HE INDICATED, UM, WHETHER OR NOT THAT HE'S GONNA TAKE DOWN THE OTHER GARAGE? HE SAID NO.
YEAH, THAT'S A HUGE, THAT'S WHERE THE BIG SUBSTANTIAL REQUEST.
I MEAN IT'S 5,000 SQUARE FEET IS WHAT'S ALLOWED.
YEAH, IT'S ALMOST DOUBLE, ALMOST THREE.
HOW BIG IS THE LOT? DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA? UM, 15 PRODUCT BY 438 15 BY 4 83.
AND THEN IT WIDENS IN THE BACK.
UM, 2 23 9 ACRES ACCORDING TO THE SURVEY.
ACCORDING TO THE SURVEY, NICK MILLER SAYS, I HAVE A SIGNED DOCUMENT FOR MY NEIGHBOR AT 29 85 FOR CONSENT OF APPROVAL.
WHICH WAY IS THAT? IS IT TO THE RIGHT OR THE LEFT? UH, WHAT IS HE GONNA HOP ON? UH, YEAH, WHAT'S HE DOING? MUST BE ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE HE 29.
WHAT WAS THE OTHER? HE HOP ON THE RIGHT.
HE'S 29 75 MUST BE ON THE RIGHT, BUT IF HE'S ON THE RIGHT SIDE OR THE LEFT SIDE, THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENCE.
I JUST, WHICH WAY? OH, THERE, IT'S RIGHT THERE.
I STILL HAVE YOURS BY THE WAY.
IT MIGHT NOT BE THE OLD, WHAT'S THE DISTANCE TO THE PROPERTY LINE? ANYBODY SEE THAT ONE? WHAT'S THAT DISTANCE TO THE PROPERTY LINE WHERE THAT'S PROPOSED? 29 8.
29 85 IS IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT 29 75, IT'S DIRECTLY FOR THE LEFT.
SO THAT ON THE SIDE IT'S ADJACENT TO THE SIDE.
SEE A DISTANCE FROM THE SIDE YARD 25 5 FROM THE SIDE.
SO THIS IS THE RIGHT WAY AND HE'S ON THIS SIDE.
50 FEET LONG, 32 FEET WIDE WITH EIGHT FOOT OVERHANG.
YOU SEE 25, A LITTLE OVER 25 FEET FROM THE SIDE YARD.
IT'S, IT'S A PRETTY GOOD CLIP.
MY FACEBOOK COMMENT, I, I COMMENTED ON FACEBOOK TWICE THAT HIM, THAT WE EMAILED HIM A LINK AND I ASKED HIM WHAT THE BUILDING WOULD BE USED FOR.
THAT, WAS THAT JUST LIKE TWO SECONDS AGO OR NO, NO, NO.
ALRIGHT, WELL WE CAN ALWAYS, UH, WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK TO, UH, ADDRESS IT IF, UH, IF NEED BE.
BUT LET'S, UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND START WITH OUR, UH,
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TAKE TWO MINUTE BREAK.JUST MY NEIGHBOR'S ACTUALLY WITH BLESS YOU.
WHAT'S THAT? MY NEIGHBOR'S ACTUALLY WITH YOU.
YEAH, WE GOT, UH, WE'RE UNDER, WE'RE WELL UNDER 10.
I DIDN'T KNOW WAS A, SO I SAW PEOPLE GETTING UP PODIUM.
UH, JUST GIVE US ONE, UH, ONE MINUTE OR ONE OF OUR COMMISSIONERS HAS 17 SECONDS TO GET BACK IN HERE.
WELL, HE ONLY LIVES THREE MILES FROM HER.
WE JUST LOOKED UP YOUR ADDRESS ON THE YEAH, IT'S A LITTLE ICY OUT THERE.
IS IT BOARD? HUH? IT'S EITHER IT NUMBER 10.
ALRIGHT, SO YOU'RE NICHOLAS MILLER? THAT'S CORRECT.
APPLICATION 58 37, UH,
ALRIGHT, SO WHAT DO YOU NEED THE BEHEMOTH FOR? SO, UH, I HAVE TWO BOATS CURRENTLY.
UH, DOWN THE ROAD I WOULD LIKE TO GET AN EXCAVATOR, UH, AND, UH, MAYBE A WINNEBA.
AND, UH, BUT THAT PUT IT IN STORAGE, SO THAT'S WHY I WANT WITH THE PIECE STUFF.
UH, HOW BIG ARE THE BOATS? UH, RIGHT NOW I HAVE A 22 AND A HALF FOOT.
IT'S A, IT'S GOT A OVERHEAD ON, I THINK IT'S A HARD TOP, SO IT'S VERY HIGH.
THAT'S THE REASON WHY IT'S A 16 FOOT CEILING.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS A 23 FOOT WELL CRAFT.
AND THEN I ALSO HAVE A JET SKI.
WHAT BIG ONE EXCAVATOR DO YOU WANT? I DON'T KNOW YET.
I BET YOU THERE'S LIMITATIONS TO THAT YOU REMEMBER? I'M JUST CURIOUS.
WELL, THERE'S, UH, THE, THERE'S SOME GRADING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THE YARD.
OKAY, SO IT'S NOT A, NOT A HUGE EXCAVATOR.
WELL, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE STRUCTURE THAT SIDE, PART OF THE CONCERN IS WHETHER OR NOT THERE BE ANY BUSINESS CONDUCTED ON THE PROPERTY.
SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA BRING WORK HOME WITH YOU OR START A BUSINESS AND, UH, NO.
UM, AND I, I DO DO, I OWN MY OWN BUSINESS AS A COMPUTER CONSULTANT.
UH, UNLESS I REALLY GREW
WELL, BUT USUALLY YOU HAVE PEOPLE DO FIX CARS AND FIX SURE.
MORE MECHANICAL WORK, THAT TYPE OF THING.
NO, I DO MY OWN WORK ON MY OWN VEHICLES AND, BUT NO, I WOULDN'T BE ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND YOU'RE NOT PLANNING ON TAKING DOWN THE GARAGE, THE EXISTING NO.
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REASON THAT YOU WON'T TAKE DOWN THE GARAGE TO MAKE THE REQUEST LESS SUBSTANTIAL? UH, WELL, UM, THE, THE PLAN WOULD BE TO ACTUALLY MOVE SOME OF THE WOODWORK AND STUFF INTO THAT CURRENT GARAGE.THAT, THAT, BECAUSE I GOT SAWS AND STUFF, I WOULD RATHER DO THAT THERE THAN THE POLE BARN, JUST TO KEEP IT NEAT AND CLEAN.
'CAUSE THAT'S, THAT CURRENT STRUCTURE THAT'S IN PLACE RIGHT NOW CURRENTLY HOUSES MY JET SKI IN THE BACK OF IT.
SO, I MEAN, I, I WOULD EVENTUALLY WANNA REFACE THAT PERHAPS, BUT NO, I WASN'T PLANNING ON TAKING IT DOWN BECAUSE WE'RE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ALMOST TWICE THE SIZE OF WHAT YOU'RE ALLOWED ON THE PROPERTY.
ANY THE FOLKS AT HOME HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO.
UH, IT'S GOT A 16, 16 FEET FROM, UH, TO THE PEAK, RIGHT? CORRECT.
THAT, SO NO SECOND FLOOR? NO SECOND.
I ACTUALLY HAVE A PLAN IF YOU WANNA SEE IT.
THE OVERHANGS COST YOU, UH, SIZE AS WELL, RIGHT? RIGHT, RIGHT.
BASICALLY PROVIDING SHELL UNDER THE POOL.
I DIDN'T REALIZE WHAT, OKAY, SORRY.
NOT I ANYONE TAKE, YES, UH, I HAVE A QUESTION.
WOULD, UH, THE APPLICANT, HAS HE CONSIDERED, WOULD HE CONSIDER ANYTHING SMALLER? SO WOULD YOU CONSIDER, UH, A SMALLER STRUCTURE? WELL, I MEAN, THE ONLY REASON WHY I WENT AS BIG AS I DID WAS BECAUSE IT COULD, WITH THE, WITH THE LENGTH OF THE WHERE GOING IS GONNA BE WASTED FACE IN THE BACK.
I ACTUALLY, I HONESTLY, I WAS GONNA GO ANOTHER EIGHT FEET OUT, BUT I DIDN'T, UM, I'M LIMITED TO THE WIDTH THAT I HAVE, SO I WANTED MORE MM-HMM
DID YOU, DID YOU HEAR THAT COMMISSIONER? YES.
I YOU BROUGHT YOUR NEIGHBOR ON? I I'M JUST GONNA ASSUME HE WANTS TO CHIME IN OR, UH, UH, NO, I JUST, NO, I, I'M HERE BECAUSE I DON'T, UH, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY I SUPPORT WHAT HE'S DOING.
I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, WITH THE VARIANCE AT ALL.
WHERE, WELL, WHERE DO YOU LIVE EXACTLY? 29 85.
SO YOU'RE ON, UH, I'M LOOKING AT THE HOUSE.
YOU ON HIS LEFT OR HIS RIGHT? I'M ON THE LEFT.
SO YOU'D BE ON THE SIDE THAT THE, UH, SAME SIDE'S GOING UP AND THERE'S NO DISTANCE ISSUES OR ANYTHING? NO.
HOW DO YOU SPELL IN VICTOR? YES.
IS THAT FROM THIS GENTLEMAN? MM-HMM
SO WE'VE GOT A LETTER OF CONSENT, UH, FROM ADJOINING NEIGHBOR FOR REQUEST OF YARD, UH, YARD RE.
BUT, UH, IT SAYS, OWNER NICHOLAS MILLER.
UH, SCOPE OF WORK TO ADD A NEW POLE BARN, 32 FOOT WIDTH, EIGHT FOOT OVERHANGS, UH, BY 58 FOOT LENGTH, 16 FOOT HEIGHT.
I CERTIFIED THE PLAN PRESENTED TO THIS NEIGHBOR AS IDENTICAL PLAN IS, WHICH IS A BUILDING PREVENT BEING REQUESTED.
AND, UH, IT IS SIGNED, UH, BY MATTHEW RO.
WAS IT ANO ANO, UH, THE OWNER OF 2095 AMS ROAD SAYING, I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO GRANTING MY CONSENT FOR THE A REQUEST FOR REDUCTION.
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OKAY.ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYONE HAVE ANY, UH, ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR, UH, NO.
THAT CONCLUDES THE, UH, FIRST PORTION OF OUR MEETING.
WE ALREADY TOOK A BREAK, SO WE'LL, UH, JUMP RIGHT INTO THE, UH, SECOND HALF OF OUR MEETING.
FIRST ITEM TABLED APPLICATION.
MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, YODER ON THE QUESTION ON THE QUESTION, WHETHER AN UNDESIRABLE CHANGE WILL BE PRODUCED IN THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD? NO.
THERE WILL NOT BE WHETHER TO BENEFIT SOUGHT BY THE APPLICANT CAN BE ACHIEVED BY SOME FEASIBLE METHOD OTHER THAN A VARIANCE.
IT CANNOT BE WHETHER THE REQUESTED VARIANCE IS SUBSTANTIAL.
WHETHER THE PROPOSED VARIANCE WILL HAVE AN ADVERSE EFFECT OR IMPACT ON THE PHYSICAL OR ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR DISTRICT, NO, IT WILL NOT.
WHETHER THE ALLEGED SELF DIFFICULTY WITH SELF-CREATED, YES, IT WAS, IT WAS SELF-ADMITTED.
THAT IT WAS SELF-CREATED, BUT I BELIEVE THE BALANCING TRUST IS IN FAVOR OF GRANTING THE AREA BALANCES.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE A QUESTION? ALL IN FAVOR A AYE OPPOSED? MOTION TO APPROVE.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE MOTION TO APPROVE.
SECOND COMMISSIONER HAN SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER
WHETHER THE BENEFITS SOUGHT BY THE APPLICANT CAN BE ACHIEVED BY SOME FEASIBLE METHOD OTHER THAN A VARIANCE, UH, POSSIBLY WHETHER THE REQUESTED VARIANCE OF SUBSTANTIAL NO.
WHETHER THE PROPOSED VARIANCE WILL HAVE AN ADVERSE EFFECT OR IMPACT? NO.
AND WHETHER THE ALLEGED, UH, DIFFICULTY WAS SELF-CREATED? POSSIBLY, BUT THE FAVORS HE APPLICANT.
ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUESTION? ANYONE ELSE IN QUESTION? ALL IN FAVOR OPPOSED? AYE.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE FROM COMMISSIONER, SECOND COMMISSIONER DIMPLE ON THE QUESTION ON THE QUESTION, WHETHER AN UNDESIRABLE CHANGE WILL BE PRODUCED IN THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD? NO.
WHETHER THE BENEFIT SOUGHT BY THE APPLICANT CAN BE ACHIEVED BY SOME OTHER FEASIBLE METHOD OTHER THAN A VARIANCE CANNOT BE WHETHER THE REQUESTED VARIANCE IS SUBSTANTIAL.
WHETHER THE PROPOSED VARIANCE WILL HAVE AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON THE PHYSICAL OR ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD? NO, IT'LL NOT.
UH, WHETHER THE ALLEGED DIFFICULTY IS ITSELF CREATED, THAT CAN GO EITHER WAY, BUT I STILL BELIEVE THE BALANCING TEST IS IN FAVOR OF GRANTING THE AREA BARRENS.
ANYONE ELSE IN QUESTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OPPOSED? AYE.
NEXT ITEM SINCE, UH, APPLICATION 50 31 TAYLOR ROAD.
MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND COMMISSIONER YODER ON QUESTION THE QUESTION, WILL THE, UH, THE BENEFIT CAN BE ACHIEVED BY OTHER MEANS FEASIBLE IN THE APPLICANT? I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS.
UH, IT CAN BE ARGUED THAT THE, UH, VARIANCE IS, UH, ON THE SUBSTANTIAL SIDE UNDER EVER CHANGE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR CHARACTER NEARBY PROPERTIES CERTAINLY IS NOT WHETHER REQUEST ON ADVERSE PHYSICAL OR ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECTS IT DOES NOT.
AND WHETHER IT'S SELF-CREATED CAN BE ARGUED, BUT THE BALANCING TEST IS IN FAVOR OF THE VARIANT.
ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUESTION? I JUST WANNA MENTION THAT I THINK THAT BY APPRO THIS VARIANCE, IT ACTUALLY GIVES MORE RELIEF TO THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR EVEN IF HE DOES NOT AGREE.
WELL, AND I KNOW THAT THE NEIGHBOR SUGGESTED THAT THE, UM, THE STRUCTURE COULD GO ON THE OTHER, OTHER SIDE OF THE HOUSE AND THAT IT'S ALWAYS, UH, EASIER TO MAKE SUGGESTIONS WHEN OTHER PEOPLE ARE SPENDING MONEY.
BUT, UH, I I THINK THAT, UH, IS A, ANOTHER FEASIBLE MEANS THAT, UH, I I DON'T THINK THAT FITS THE BILL EXACTLY.
SO, UH, ANYONE ELSE HAVE A QUESTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.
JAMES MARY CAR AT, UH, 36 8 FOURTH FIFTH STREET.
YO, UH, QUESTION, UM, THE QUESTION WHETHER AN UNDESIRABLE CHANGE WILL BE PRODUCED IN THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR DETRIMENT
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NEARBY PROPERTIES? THERE WILL NOT BE WHETHER THE SOUGHT BY THE APPLICANT WILL BE ACHIEVED BY SOME FEASIBLE METHOD OTHER THAN THE VARIANCE.IT CANNOT BE WHETHER THE REQUESTED VARIANCE IS SUBSTANTIAL.
IT'S NOT WHETHER THE PROPOSED VARIANCE WILL HAVE AN ADVERSE IMPACT IMPACT ON THE PHYSICAL OR ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'LL NOT BE WHETHER THE ALLEGED SELF, THE ALLEGED DIFFICULTY WAS SELF-CREATED.
HONESTLY, IN MY OPINION, IT WAS NOT DUE TO A MEDICAL NECESSITY.
SO I BELIEVE THE, UM, BALANCING CLASSES IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE VARIANCE.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTION? ALL THE FAVOR? AYE.
RONALD HENRY FOR POLL, SIGN FOR MOTION DISCUSSION.
MR. HENRY IS, UH, PROPOSING TO BASICALLY REPLACE ONE POLE SIGN WITH ANOTHER.
HE STATED THAT, UH, IF HE'S NOT ABLE TO DO SO MINE AND HE IS A MONUMENT SIGN, HE IS GONNA HAVE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, ENCROACH UPON HIS, UH, PARKING, UH, AREA HIS, UH, PARKING LOT.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY, UH, ANY COMMENTS, ANY QUESTIONS? HE'S NOT CHANGING ANYTHING.
HE'S JUST, IT'S ALREADY EXISTING.
HE'S JUST MAKING IT LOOK BETTER.
WELL I THINK HE'S GONNA PUT A NEW POLL IN.
UM, YOU KNOW, APPARENTLY IT'S BEEN RUSTED OUT OR IT, I THINK BY NOT DOING IT, IT MIGHT CAUSE MORE OF A HAZARD, WHICH IS HOW I'M LOOKING AT IT.
SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION.
WE HAVE MOTION TO APPROVE MR. SECOND, MR. DIPO ON A QUESTION, UH, DOES THE APPLICANT, UH, CANNOT REALIZE THE REASONABLE RETURN PROVIDED LACK OF RETURN IS SUBSTANTIAL, DEMONSTRATED BY COMPETENT FINANCIAL EVIDENCE AND THAT NO, THE O ALLEGED HARDSHIP REPLACING PROPERTIES UNIQUE AND DOES NOT APPLY TO THE SUBSTANTIAL PORTION OF THE DISTRICT.
ALSO KNOW THAT THE REQUESTED USE VARIANCE OF GRANTED WILL NOT ALTER THE ESSENTIAL CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT WILL NOT BECAUSE IT'S JUST REPLACING WHAT'S ALREADY THERE AND IT'S DEFINITELY NOT SELF-CREATED.
THE AGE OF, UH, TIME AND WHETHER HAS CAUSED THE POLE BARN OR THE POLE SIGN TO DETERIORATE.
SO, ANYONE ELSE? SAME QUESTION.
NEXT ITEM, 58 34 JUNE MILLER, THIS IS, UH, FARM, UH, 52 92 BAYVIEW ROAD.
I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
MOTION TO APPROVE COMMISSIONER, SECOND COMMISSIONER HAN ON THE QUESTION ON THE QUESTION, THE APPLICANT CANNOT REALIZE A REASONABLE RETURN PROVIDED THAT LACK OF RETURN IS SUBSTANTIAL DEMONSTRATED BY T FINANCIAL EVIDENCE.
UH, MS. MILLER INDICATED SHE THIS IS NECESSARY TO CONTINUE, UH, A VIABLE FARMING BUSINESS DURING A PANDEMIC.
UH, THE ALLEGED HARDSHIP RELATING TO THE PROPERTY IS UNIQUE AND DOES NOT APPLY TO A SUBSTANTIAL PORTION OF THE DISTRICT OR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT DOES NOT THAT THE REQUESTED USE VARIANCE IF GRANTED WILL NOT ALTER THE ESSENTIAL CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'LL NOT THAT THE ALLEGED HARDSHIP HAS NOT BEEN SELF CREATED AND I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS EITHER.
SO I BELIEVE THE BALANCING COST IS IN FAVOR FOR ANY NEWS BALANCE.
ANYONE ELSE ON THE QUESTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.
UH, THIS IS 58 35 TIMOTHY AND DIANA RA.
UH, BASICALLY THEY'RE PUTTING ON THE SUNROOM ON THE BACK OF THE HOUSE MOUNT VERNON BOULEVARD, THE EXISTING NONCONFORMING STRUCTURE OR A MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HAN ON I SECOND ON THE QUESTION ON THE QUESTION, WHETHER AN UNDESIRABLE CHANGE WILL BE PRODUCED IN THE CHARACTER AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR DETRIMENT TO NEARBY PROPERTIES THAT WILL CREATE, THAT WILL BE CREATED BY THE GRANT.
IT'LL NOT BE WHETHER THE BENEFITS SOUGHT BY THE APPLICANT CAN BE ACHIEVED BY SOME FEASIBLE METHOD OTHER THAN A VARIANCE.
IT CANNOT BE WHETHER THE REQUESTED VARIANCE IS SUBSTANTIAL.
IT'S NOT WHETHER THE PROPOSED VARIANCE WILL GIVE AN ADVERSE, UH, FACTOR IMPACT ON THE PHYSICAL OR ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS.
IT'LL NOT WHETHER THE ALLEGED DIFFICULTY WAS SELF-CREATED.
THIS IS A NON-CONFORMING AREA OF THE TOWN.
SO I BELIEVE IT WAS NOT SELF-CREATED.
SO I BELIEVE THE BALANCING TEST IS IN FAVOR OF GRANTING THE AREA OF VARIANCE.
ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUESTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.
NEXT ITEM, WE'RE GONNA LEAVE ON THE TABLE ON MY MOTION TABLE, UH, AND NUMBER 10 58 37.
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NICHOLAS MILLER, AM ROME 29 75 IS THE, UH, WHAT WE JUST HEARD, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO DENY.UM, COMMISSIONER DIMPLE AND SECOND, UH, FLOOR IS YOURS, COMMISSIONER, TODAY YOU WANNA, UH, WHETHER AN UNDESIRABLE CHANGE WILL BE PRODUCED IN THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON THIS? NO.
WHETHER THE BENEFITS SOUGHT BY THE APPLICANT CAN BE ACHIEVED BY SOME FEASIBLE METHOD OTHER THAN A VARIANCE.
I BELIEVE THERE ARE OTHER ALTERNATIVES, UH, TO THIS PROJECT THAT HE COULD SEEK.
WHETHER THE REQUEST OF THE VARIANCE IS SUBSTANTIAL, YES, IT'S VERY SUBSTANTIAL.
WHETHER THE PROPOSED VARIANCE WILL HAVE AN ADVERSE EFFECT OF IMPACT ON THE PHYSICAL OR ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHETHER THE ALLEGED DIFFICULTY WAS SELF CREATED, YES, IT WAS.
SO I BELIEVE THE VARI OR THE BALANCING IN FAVOR OF DENYING THE BEARINGS.
ANYONE ELSE? QUESTION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
OPPOSED? MOTION TO DENY IS APPROVED.
UH, WE HAVE MINUTES TO THE PREVIOUS MEETING.
SECOND COMMISSIONER AVI? QUESTION? UH, NO.
MINUTES ARE APPROVED AND, UH, WE HAVE A MEETING.
I APOLOGIZE, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT IS THE, DON'T BLAME ME, BLAME THE COVID.
UM, SO TWO WEEKS FROM TODAY, WE WILL, UH, CONVENE ONCE AGAIN.
AND, UH, WE'VE GOT ABOUT SEVEN OR WELL EIGHT ITEMS TO CONSIDER.
HOPEFULLY WE WON'T HAVE TO DO THE SAME FORMAT, BUT I THINK WE, UH, I THINK WE WILL HERE.
UM, SO WE'LL PREPARE FOR IT AND, UH, AND GO, GO FORTH ACCORDINGLY.
ANYONE GOT ANYTHING ELSE? MOTION TO ADJOURN.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? WE ARE ADJOURNED.