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CLOSE ENOUGH.WHY DON'T WE, UH, CONVENE OUR WORK SESSION TO ORDER.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT.
IS THERE A SECOND? UH, TO DO THAT SECOND.
UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE HAVE A COUPLE THINGS OFF THE AGENDA TO DISCUSS TONIGHT, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ON THE HOAX CLOCK TOWER ISSUE.
THERE IS A, UH, RESOLUTION ON THE AGENDA LATER TONIGHT, WHICH WILL DEAL WITH THAT.
AND THEN BETH FARRELL WANTS TO TALK ABOUT CLARK AND MCKINLEY POTENTIAL GRANTS, UH, A STUDY WE DID REGARDING THAT TRAFFIC INTERSECTION PLUS, UH, UH, SPEED LIMITS IN CLARK.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE SPEED ZONE, UH, WITHIN A SCHOOL DISTRICT ON DALE AND SO ON.
SO, HAVING SAID THAT, UH, LET ME SAY TO YOU, AS YOU REMEMBER, IN OCTOBER OF, UH, HALLOWEEN 2019, TREMENDOUS STORM AND SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE TO THE FOUNDATION OF THE SIDEWALK ADJACENT TO THE CLOCK TOWER, UH, WHICH ABUTS THE HOAX RESTAURANT PARKING LOT.
UH, IT TOOK SOME TIME, BUT WE FINALLY GOT IN, UH, THE SPRING OF 2020 FEMA DESIGNATION DUE TO THE AGGREGATE DAMAGES THAT OCCURRED THROUGHOUT THE WATERFRONT RELATIVE TO, UH, THAT STORM.
UH, THAT MEANS THAT THE CAPITAL REPAIRS TO THE CLOCK TOWER WOULD BE FUNDED THROUGH THE FEMA GRANT, 75 25 FOR THE PERCENT FOR THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, THE NECESSARY SIGN-OFFS FROM DEC, THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENT AND CONSERVATION IN THE STATE, AND MOST PARTICULARLY THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS, UH, WAS NOT FORTHCOMING.
UH, THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS REQUESTS, UH, THAT WE SENT WERE NOT SENT UNTIL JUNE OF 2020.
WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR CLEARANCE, UH, ON THE INITIAL DAMAGES FROM THE ARMY CORPS.
AND THEN, AS YOU MIGHT REMEMBER, WE HAVE, WE SUSTAINED MORE DAMAGE ON NOVEMBER THE 15TH OF 2020 WHEN, UH, A VERY SEVERE STORM, UH, REALLY DID MORE DAM, MUCH MORE DAMAGE TO THE FOUNDATION OF THE CLOCK TOWER AND TO THE SIDEWALK.
SO MUCH SO THAT, UH, WATER, UH, SWEPT THROUGH, UH, BROKE UP THE HOAX PARKING LOT, AND THEIR FOUNDATION WAS COMPROMISED AS A RESULT.
SO HERE WE ARE, UM, APPARENTLY, UH, SEAN KARATE CAN, CAN FILL, FILL IN A LITTLE BIT, UH, AND MAYBE KAMI JARRELL AS WELL.
WE, UH, WE MET SEVERAL TIMES SINCE NOVEMBER THE 15TH OF 2020, UH, TO DISCUSS OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE GOING FORWARD.
UH, APPARENTLY, UH, WE HAVE TO DISCUSS THE FEMA OPTION.
UH, WE HAVE TO ALSO CONSIDER, UH, WHAT WE COULD DO ON A SHORT TERM BASIS.
UH, WE DID HIRE A CONTRACTOR TO PUT RIP WRAP ALONG THE FOUNDATION AT THE WATER'S EDGE, SO AS TO BUFFET, UH, THE SIDEWALK, THE TOWER, AND THE HOAX LOT, UH, FOR THE WINTER AND SPRING STORM SEASON.
IT'S A TEMPORARY FIX, OF COURSE, JUST TO PREVENT MORE DAMAGE.
UH, AS IT STANDS NOW, UH, WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM GHDA, UH, UH, PROPOSAL FOR A STUDY, UH, WHICH WOULD ALSO INCLUDE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS FOR WORK TO BE DONE.
THE COST OF THAT STUDY IS ESTIMATED TO BE $80,000, GIVE OR TAKE, AND IT WILL TAKE AT LEAST, UH, FIVE MONTHS TO COMPLETE, GIVEN THE PRICE TAG AND THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT WOULD TAKE.
IT WAS MY DETERMINATION TO SUGGEST TO YOU THAT WE DO A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS SIMPLY TO, UH, AFFORD TO THE TAXPAYERS, UH, NOTICE THAT WE ARE BEING CONSCIENTIOUS OF LOOKING NOT ONLY FOR A COMPREHENSIVE SOLUTION, BUT ONE THAT WE CAN AFFORD.
SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE END OF IT FOR ME.
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IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'LL ASK IF SEAN KARATE'S ON BOARD YET, AND ASK HIM IF HE CAN ADD TO THE COMMENTS I MADE.SEAN, ARE YOU WITH US? I AM, SIR.
EVERYTHING THAT, UH, YOU HAD MENTIONED ABOUT THE TIMELINESS OF THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS AND THE DEC, UH, PERMIT PROCESS WAS, UM, DELAYED.
CAMMIE CAN SPEAK TO THAT AS THAT'S WHAT SHE WAS HANDLING.
UM, THE DAY AFTER WE MET LAST WEEK, UM, WHICH WAS I THINK MONDAY AFTERNOON, TUESDAY, WE, I HAD A MEETING WITH FEMA AND THE STATE, UH, DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY AND EMERGENCY SERVICES, AND THE STATE PERSON AND MYSELF MADE THE CALL, BUT THE FEMA GENTLEMAN THAT WE GOT ASSIGNED, UM, MISSED IT DUE TO A PROBLEM ON HIS FLIGHT.
HE WAS TRYING TO ADJUST BETWEEN FLIGHTS, UM, BACK MISSISSIPPI, I BELIEVE.
SO HE DIDN'T CONNECT WITH US UNTIL, UM, THE NEXT DAY, UH, ON WEDNESDAY HE REACHED OUT.
SO WE'RE SCHEDULED TO MEET WEDNESDAY, UH, THIS WEDNESDAY AT, UH, 2:00 PM SO I EXPLAINED TO HIM OUR, PER OUR PERSPECTIVE ON THINGS ON WHERE THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE COMPLETED, UM, AND THE, THE PROBLEMS THAT WE RAN INTO WITH TRYING TO GET CLOSURE ON THOSE PROJECTS DUE TO THEIR INABILITY TO, UM, DO SITE VISITS.
SO WE TRIED TO COMPROMISE AND MM-HMM
GET AERIAL FOOTAGE WITH THE DRONE AND, UM, SOME PICTURES AND VIDEOS LIKE THE DREDGING OF THE BOAT LAUNCH AND THE OTHER PROJECT.
SO HOPEFULLY WE'RE GONNA REALIZE SOME MONEY OUT OF THAT ASPECT.
THE CLOCK TOWER SITUATION IS STILL, UM, OH, OKAY.
WELL, SEAN, ANYTHING ELSE, UH, THAT'S GONNA BE UNRESOLVED.
UM, SO WE'RE GONNA MEET WITH HIM AND THEN GO FROM THERE.
BUT WE HAVE BENCHMARKED, UM, UH, A PRICE RANGE.
WE, UH, GUESS SO, WHICH WILL INCLUDE THAT ENGINEERING WELL, IF THE STUDY, YEAH, IF THE STUDY IS ESTIMATED TO BE IN THE RANGE OF 80,000, GIVE OR TAKE, WHO KNOWS? UH, WE CAN ONLY SPECULATE THAT THE ACTUAL CAPITAL REPAIRS ARE GONNA TAKE A LONG TIME.
WE'RE GONNA NEED SIGN-OFFS FROM DEC AND THE ARMY CORPS.
AND I CAN IMAGINE WE'RE GONNA BE ONE THE SIX FIGURES.
AND THEN, AND THEN WE SPOKE ABOUT, WE SPOKE ABOUT A COUPLE OTHER, UM, PROJECTS THAT, UM, THAT WE CAN EXPLORE AS WELL, UM, AS FAR AS LONG-TERM MITIGATION PROJECTS.
SO WE HAVE SOME INFORMATION TO, TO COMB OVER AND, UM, WE'LL HAVE TO JUST APPLY FOR A, UM, AN EXTENSION ON THE PROJECT GETTING COMPLETED.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, ANYTHING YOU WANNA, UH, ADD TO IT, OUR BOARD MEMBERS, OR ANY QUESTIONS YOU WANNA RAISE? JIM? I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.
UH, FIRST QUESTION IS, IF WE GO OUT TO AN RFP NOW, CAN THE WORK ACTUALLY GET DONE, OR ARE WE STILL WAITING FOR, UH, THE NECESSARY APPROVAL FROM THE ARMY, ARMY CORPS, UH, OR FROM, UH, ANY OTHER JURISDICTION? NO WORK CAN GET DONE UNTIL WE GET A SIGN OFF FROM DEC AND THE ARMY CORPS.
UH, IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT WE SUSTAINED ADDITIONAL DAMAGES IN NOVEMBER, I WOULD ASSUME THAT, UH, ANYTHING FORTH TO BE FORTHCOMING FROM EITHER OF THOSE ENTITIES WILL NOT OCCUR UNTIL WELL INTO THE SPRING.
IT'LL TAKE US ABOUT 15 DAYS TO PREPARE THE RFP, AND WE ALREADY HAVE, THANKS TO KAMIA WORKING OUTLINE, AND THEN, UH, 30 DAYS TO GET THE, UH, TO GET, UH, PROPOSALS BACK FROM ENGINEERING FIRMS. UM, SO I GUESS, SEAN, WE'RE IN FOR, UH, A WAIT BEFORE WE CAN FINALLY GET THESE REPAIRS, UH, UNDERWAY.
SO WHAT WOULD THE ADVANTAGE, IF THE, UM, CONSULTANT WORK, UH, AT THIS POINT, THE 80,000 THAT, UH, WE WOULD HAVE GGHD? IS THERE ANY UPSIDE OR BENEFIT? DOES THAT SPEED ALONG THE PROCESS OF THEM, UM, GIVING THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS? OR IS THAT REALLY, UH, NOT PUTTING OUR FOOT FORWARD IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM? WELL, OBVIOUSLY WE COULD GO FORWARD WITH THE OUTLINE THAT THD PROVIDED TO US.
UH, THEY, THEIR, THEIR PROPOSAL IS THAT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, AND, UH, TO BE READY FOR A PUBLIC BID, THEIR SPECIFICATE RECOMMENDATIONS AND SPECIFICATIONS TO BE READY FOR A PUBLIC BID COULD BE GIVEN TO US FAIRLY SOON.
MY FEAR WAS THAT, UH, IN AS MUCH AS IT IS A SIGNIFICANT DOLLAR AMOUNT FIRST, AND SECONDLY, GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE
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DO NOT HAVE AUTHORIZATIONS FROM THE DEC OR THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS, WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF A DUTY TO THE TAXPAYERS TO TRY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING NOT ONLY THE BEST POSSIBLE PROPOSAL FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES.BUT JIM, I, JIM, COULD I, FOR A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION, CAN I FINISH, PLEASE? YES.
UH, SO THAT, MY, MY SUGGESTION IS, IS THAT WE, UH, NOT ONLY GET A COMPREHENSIVE PROPOSAL PROPOSALS THAT WE CAN COMPARE AND CONTRAST, BUT THAT WE ALSO GET, UH, A PRICE THAT WE CAN LOOK AT COMPARATIVELY SPEAKING.
I, I DON'T KNOW WHO WAS, IT'S CAMIE.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY A COUPLE THINGS FOR, FOR KIND OF JUST HOW THE SCHEDULE WOULD WORK.
UM, SO THE, THE PROPOSAL THAT GHD HAD PRESENTED WAS TO, UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT JUST A STUDY, IT'S A STUDY THAT WOULD INCLUDE A FULL DESIGN, FULL PERMITTING WITH A PROJECT READY TO GO TO PUBLIC BID.
UM, SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS CLEAR WHAT, WHAT THAT WAS INVOLVED.
SO IF YOU PUT OUT AN RFP, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IT INCLUDE FULL DESIGN, THAT WOULD INCLUDE PERMITTING, UH, SO WHATEVER FIRM, UM, YOU WOULD CHOOSE WOULD SUBMIT THEIR DESIGN FOR PERMITTING AND WORK THROUGH WHATEVER QUESTIONS AND ISSUES AND, AND MODIFICATIONS THAT THOSE AGENCIES COULD REQUIRE.
SO AS WE STAND RIGHT NOW, WE PUT IN PERMIT APPLICATIONS BACK IN LATE JUNE TO JUST REPAIR THE SIDEWALK THAT HAD BEEN DAMAGED AT THE TIME FROM THE OCTOBER STORM, RIGHT? WE GOT THE DEC PERMIT.
THE ARMY CORPS DID NOT RESPOND TO THAT PERMIT APPLICATION TILL ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO.
SO WE WERE NEVER ABLE TO INCORPORATE THOSE REPAIRS.
NOW THAT PERMIT IS, IS, UM, BASICALLY WE'VE PULLED THAT PERMIT BECAUSE THE DESIGN NOW HAS, WILL, WILL INVOLVE MUCH MORE REPAIR BECAUSE WE WERE ONLY LOOKING AT, I THINK IT WAS THE FIRST SIX PANELS OR SO THAT HAD BEEN DAMAGED AT THE TIME IN, IN MAY AND JUNE.
NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REPAIR AS IT'S UNDERMINED ENTIRELY ALONG THE WHOLE LENGTH OF THE SIDEWALK, DOWN THE WHOLE FRONT TO THE CLOCK TOWER.
SO IT WOULD BE A FRESH PERMIT APPLICATION AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO SUBMIT DESIGN DRAWINGS FOR THEIR APPROVAL.
YOU'VE FILLED IN, UH, SOME OF THE BONES THAT I DIDN'T PUT ANY MEAT ON, SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
UH, THE ARMY CORPS, UH, TAKES AN INORDINATELY LONG TIME.
ON MOST OCCASIONS, I'M TOLD TO ISSUE THE PERMITS.
UH, IF WE FILED BACK IN JUNE, UH, FOR THE 10 31 19 STORM, UH, AND WE ONLY GOT, UH, AN AUTHORIZATION TWO WEEKS AGO, THAT GIVES YOU AN IDEA.
SO, UH, IN ANY EVENT, UH, I THINK WE'VE GOT AN OBLIGATION TO MOVE FORWARD, BUT, UH, GETTING IT DONE CORRECTLY IS GONNA BE A CHALLENGE BECAUSE THIS IS A COMPLICATED PROJECT, UH, AND GETTING IT DONE, UH, FOR THE BEST DOLLAR VALUE IS ALSO A CONCERN.
ANYBODY ELSE, ANY OTHER THOUGHTS, FOLKS? WHEN SEAN CRO WAS TALKING, IT, IT, IT SEEMED LIKE HE HAD A DOLLAR FIGURE IN MIND OF WHAT COULD, WAS, IS THAT POSSIBLE? OR WAS I, YOU KNOW, MISREADING OR, OR RIS MISHEARING HIM? WELL, HE'S, IF HE'S STILL HERE, HE CAN TELL.
I DON'T THINK HE HAS A DOLLAR IN MIND WHEN, WHEN, UH, SEAN, WHEN I SPOKE TO THE STATE, THEY HAD SAID, UH, TO PUT IN A, KIND OF LIKE A PLACEHOLDER OF A RANGE OF, UH, LIKE A HALF TO THREE QUARTERS OF A MILLION DOLLARS THAT WAY.
UM, WE JUST HAVE A DOLLAR FIGURE IN THERE, AND WE'RE NOT HELD, WE'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO THAT DOLLAR FIGURE, BUT THEY JUST HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING IN THERE TO KIND OF HOLD THE PLACE AND TO HAVE A SCOPE OF THE PROJECT.
SO WHEN, UM, AND THAT, THAT NUMBER IS JUST ARBITRARY.
SO CAMMIE, I WAS GONNA TOUCH BASE WITH HER AFTER I MET WITH FEMA ON WEDNESDAY AND JUST KIND OF SEE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, AFTER SHE'S HAS SPOKEN TO HER, UM, SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS AT HER FIRM ON WHAT A, A REASONABLE RANGE IS, SO THAT WE CAN PUT A PLACEHOLDER NUMBER IN THERE AND THEN MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR, UM, EXTENSION.
IS THERE ANY, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE TALKING ALMOST, WE'RE GOING UP TO A YEAR AND A HALF, AND ANYBODY THAT'S BEEN DOWN THERE KNOWS IT'S A MAJOR IT HEALTH, UH, RISK ISSUE.
UM, AND NOW WE'RE TALKING FROM, FROM JUNE WHEN WE GOT A INITIAL PERMIT FROM THE DEC, BUT, BUT THEN HEARD NOTHING FROM THE ARMY CORPS.
I MEAN, ARE WE AT THE POINT NOW THAT WE SHOULD HAVE OUR ATTORNEYS REACH OUT TO THE ARMY CORPS? ARMY CORPS, MAYBE LET THEM KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, THE HEALTH,
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THE SAFETY CONCERNS, UM, TO EXPEDITE THIS TO SOME LEVEL? WELL, LET ME, LET ME SAY TO YOU, UH, I AM NOT AWARE OF ALL THE DETAILS IN THE SCENARIO, BUT REMEMBER, THE, THE INITIAL STORM OCCURRED ON HALLOWEEN OF 2019.WE DID NOT MAKE APPLICATION FOR AN ARMY CORPS PERMIT UNTIL JUNE OF 2020.
THEY THEN, IN TURN, THE ARMY CORPS DID NOT, ACCORDING TO CAM, HE DID NOT RESPOND TO US UNTIL TWO WEEKS AGO, WHICH WOULD'VE BEEN SOMETIME AROUND THE 10TH, 12TH OF, UH, JANUARY.
SO, YES, I THINK THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS WE'VE GOTTA, WE'VE GOTTA PUT SOME HEAT ON THIS TO GET, UH, UH, PERMITS, WHETHER WE WORK WITH OUR CONGRESS, OUR PEOPLE IN CONGRESS, OR OUR ATTORNEYS REACH OUT TO THE CORPS.
BUT YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, WE CAN'T, UH, SIT AROUND FOR SEVEN OR EIGHT MORE MONTHS, BUT IT'S GONNA TAKE FIVE MONTHS, UM, TO FULLY, UH, BE READY TO GO BEFORE WE SUBMIT TO THE ARMY CORPS.
I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND COVID AND I UNDERSTAND THAT ARMY CORPS TAKES THEIR TIME, AND I CAN APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, BUT NOW THAT WE WENT A WHOLE SEASON WITH HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE, EVEN IN A SEASON THAT DIDN'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF ACTIVITY AROUND THE RESTAURANT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA BE GOING INTO A SEASON THAT IS, IS LIKELY TO BE EVEN HAVE EVEN MUCH MORE ACTIVITY, YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS IF NOT THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE LITERALLY RIGHT.
AND AT LEAST THE WAY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, I'VE SEEN IT IN THE PAST.
I MEAN, IT IS AN ACCIDENT WAITING TO HAPPEN.
THAT'S A HUGE LIABILITY TO, TO THE TOWN.
AND, UH, I THINK THAT AT THIS POINT WE'VE BEEN REALLY PATIENT WITH, UH, WITH THEM AND, AND TRYING TO WAIT FOR THE PERMITS AND WAIT FOR THE PROCESS AND, AND DO IT RIGHT AND TAKE OUR TIME.
UM, AND I THINK THE, THE, THE OWNERS OF HOAX HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY PATIENT WITH THE PROCESS.
UM, BUT AT SOME POINT I THINK WE'VE GOTTA PUSH HARDER.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT THE TIME IS, IS NOW, WE'VE, WE'VE REALLY BROUGHT THIS, UM, TO THE POINT WHERE I, I THINK WE CAN NO LONGER, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE, HAVE PATIENCE.
WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME PERSISTENCE.
AND I KNOW HAS DONE A GREAT JOB AND SEAN, SO I WOULD JUST ASK THAT WE ALL STEP IT UP EVEN MORE.
SO, AND IF ANYONE HAS ANY IDEAS OF WHO WE NEED TO CONTACT AND HOW WE NEED TO PUSH IT, UH, I THINK NOW'S THE TIME.
PAT RYAN, ARE YOU HERE WITH US? PAT RYAN? I, I, I WANTED PAT TO TELL YOU SOME OF THE INTERIM THINGS THAT, UH, UH, B AND G HAS DONE WITH AN OUTSIDE CONTRACTOR TO PREVENT FURTHER DAMAGE DURING THE REMAINDER OF THIS WINTER AND INTO THE SPRING, UH, AT THAT, AT THAT SITE.
AND ALSO TELL YOU ABOUT THE NEW BARRICADING, UH, THAT WE'VE PUT UP AROUND THE DAMAGED AREA, SO AS TO MAKE IT AS SECURE AS WE POSSIBLY CAN, BUT ALL RIGHT.
THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHERE WE'RE AT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS TOPIC? ANYBODY? OKAY.
WELL, I'M GOING TO FLIP OVER BETH FARRELL, YOU'VE GOT A LOT TO TELL US TOO, SO I'LL LET YOU TAKE OVER THERE.
CLARK AND MCKINLEY, YOU'VE HEARD ME UPDATE THE BOARD SEVERAL TIMES IN THE PAST.
UM, WE HAD DONE A TOWN, UH, STUDY AT THAT INTERSECTION, AND WE HAD BEEN WORKING WITH THE COUNTY.
WE HAD IDENTIFIED, UM, SOME OF THE STEPS THAT WE COULD TAKE, AND THEN WE WERE LOOKING AT HOW TO FUND THE PROJECT.
IT THEN BECAME PART OF A BIGGER SCOPE FOR A TAP APPLICATION, WHICH WOULD ADDRESS MULTIMODAL ISSUES ALL THE WAY FROM ARMOR DOWN TO THE ROUNDABOUT AND, AND SOUTH PARK, AS WE ALL KNOW, UH, BECAUSE OF CID THAT, UH, CFA AND THE TAP APPLICATION PROCESS WERE PUT ON HOLD LAST YEAR, IT WAS UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE WE HAD THAT PROJECT READY FOR SUBMISSION.
UM, IT IS NOW, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF COVID, EVERYTHING IS STRETCHED AS LONG AS IT HAS.
UM, AND WE DID NOT HAVE ANY ATION THAT THAT TAP PROCESS WOULD OPEN UP.
SO WE, WE CIRCLED BACK AND TOOK A LOOK AT THE INTERSECTION.
UM, SHANNON AND, UM, MARK MALKI HAVE, UH, AND I HAVE MET, WE'VE TAKEN A LOOK AT WHAT THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS ARE.
WE'VE ALSO HAD MEETINGS WITH GINA FROM THE COUNTY, DOT.
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AND WHAT WE DID IS WE PUT TOGETHER, I WANTED TO BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD AND, AND GIVE YOU AN UPDATE.SO WE PUT TOGETHER SEVERAL DIFFERENT OPTIONS, INCLUDING WHAT THE COST WOULD BE.
UH, AND THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT THOUGHTS HERE.
UM, THERE ARE, WE SET UP THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS SO THAT EACH ONE BUILDS UPON THE PREVIOUS ONE, AND ULTIMATELY IT STILL BUILDS INTO THE BIGGER PROJECT THAT WHEN TAP DOES OPEN, WE WILL APPLY FOR THAT GRANT.
UH, THERE WAS SOME INFORMATION IN THE PAST FEW WEEKS THAT IT COULD VERY WELL OPEN UP IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING OFFICIAL.
AND EVEN WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THAT, UM, CYCLE, IF WE DO HAVE THAT TYPICAL TAP CYCLE THIS SUMMER, IT, WE WOULD NOT BE, UH, SEE ANY TYPE OF AN AWARD UNTIL DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR.
SO WE DID, AGAIN, WANNA COME BACK TO THE BOARD, OUTLINE A COUPLE OF THE OPTIONS, WHAT THE ASSOCIATED COST WOULD BE, AND AS I SAID, EACH OPTION BUILDS UPON THE OTHER.
UM, AND THEN WOULD ALMOST SET THE STAGE FOR THE BIGGER PROJECT IN THAT WHOLE ARMOR SOUTH PARK CORRIDOR.
UM, AGAIN, WE'VE WORKED WITH GINA THROUGH THE COUNTY, DOT, AND THERE ARE, THERE'S A, A BASIC PROJECT.
AND REALLY THE DECISION WILL BE, DO WE WANT TO UNDERTAKE ANY OF THIS, UM, IN THE TOWN WITH TOWN FUNDING AS A PRECURSOR TO A POTENTIAL TAP GRANT? OR DO WE WANT TO JUST WAIT AT THIS POINT AND FOLD ALL OF IT INTO THE TAP APPLICATION? AND I FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD, OUTLINE THIS FOR YOU, AND HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, THE, THE PREFERENCES THAT WE ALL HAD.
SO AT THIS POINT, WHAT I'D LIKE IS FOR, IF TAMMY CAN HELP, WALK US THROUGH, WE HAVE, THERE'S THE BASIC OPTION, WHICH TAKES A LOOK AT THE SIGNAL ITSELF AND THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED AS IDENTIFIED IN THE STUDY.
THE FIRST ADD-ON HAS TO DO WITH SOME, SOME ADDITIONAL STRIPING AND RECONFIGURATION OF THE TURNING LANE.
AND THE THIRD OPTION HAS TO DO WITH, UM, SOME ADDITIONAL ADD-ONS.
SO KAMI, IF YOU DON'T MIND JUMPING IN AND WITH YOUR EXPERTISE, BECAUSE SHE HAS ALSO CONSULTED WITH THEIR TRAFFIC ENGINEER, UH, ALONG WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WAS IN THE STUDY.
SO KAMI, IF YOU DON'T MIND COMMENTING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THOSE OPTIONS AND ALSO OKAY.
GOING OVER THE ASSOCIATED COST AND THE TIMEFRAME.
SO THE FIRST THING I'M GOING TRY TO DO IS SEE IF I CAN SHARE MY SCREEN.
I THINK YOU ALL RECEIVED THIS AS WELL VIA EMAIL, BUT I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN SORT OF LOOK AT THIS CONCEPT PLAN TOGETHER.
IS THAT VISIBLE FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE ON A COMPUTER SCREEN? YEP.
SO, UM, THIS IS OBVIOUSLY THE CORNER OF MCKINLEY AND CLARK.
UM, THE MAIN ISSUE THAT WAS THE FOCUS OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WAS DONE LAST YEAR WAS THE STRUGGLE THAT, UM, VEHICLES ARE HAVING TO MAKE LEFT HAND TURNS THROUGHOUT THIS INTERSECTION.
AND IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS FROM THIS PHOTO, BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THE INTERSECTION DOES NOT LINE UP PERFECTLY AS WELL AS NOT BEING 90 DEGREE BENDS, UM, IT BECOMES A SIGHT LINE ISSUE.
SO THE MAIN RECOMMENDATION THAT CAME OUT OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS TO REPLACE THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS WITH, WITH SIGNALS THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR, UM, LEFT TURNING LANES FROM CLARK IN BOTH THE EASTBOUND AND WESTBOUND.
UH, SO THERE WOULD BE TURN ARROWS, UM, THAT WOULD ALLOW TRAFFIC, UM, TO CLEANLY MAKE THOSE LEFTS, UH, WITH A CONTROLLED SIGNAL.
A THAT IS THE BASE RECOMMENDATION, UH, FOR WHAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY, UH, RESULTS CAME TO.
SO WHAT WE'RE SHOWING HERE IS, UH, CURRENTLY THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS, IT'S, UM, TWO POLES, BASICALLY, ONE ON THE, UH, NORTHWEST AND ONE ON THE SOUTHEAST.
UM, IT'S A STRUNG ACROSS, UH, TRAFFIC LIGHTS WITH, UM, THE FOUR DIRECTIONAL IN THE MIDDLE AND THE TWO S SINGLES ON EITHER SIDE.
UM, SO TO REPLACE THIS, YOU WOULD REQUIRE TO ADD, UH, TO CHANGE OUT THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS, UM, FOR A TURN ARROW.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE CHALLENGE FOR THIS IS THE POLES THAT THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS ARE ACTUALLY STRONG ON.
SO THIS WOULD BE AN ADDED WEIGHT, UH, TO THESE POLES.
AND THE TOWN HAS NO RECORD INFORMATION OF WHEN THESE POLES WERE INSTALLED.
UM, WE HAVE NO IDEA IF THERE ARE FOUNDATIONS OR ANYTHING, UM, HOLDING UP THESE POLES OR THEIR AGE AND WHAT THEIR CURRENT CONDITION IS.
UH, SO THE RECOMMENDATION FROM OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER, AND THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN HAVE AN ENGINEER WOULD BE WILLING TO STAMP A DESIGN FOR THIS WOULD BE TO INCLUDE THE REPLACEMENT OF THE POLES.
SO OUR BASE PROJECT IS REPLACING THESE TWO POLES AND
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STRINGING, UH, NEW TRAFFIC SIGNALS ACROSS THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR LEFT TURN ARROWS OFF OF CLARK, BOTH EASTBOUND AND WESTBOUND.ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT FIRST BASE OPTION? CAN YOU OUTLINE THE COST OF THAT? YES, BUT I WILL HAVE TO PULL UP.
DO YOU WANT ME TO DO THAT? I CAN JUST GIVE THE TOTAL IF YOU WANT.
I, I HAVE IT, BUT, OKAY, GO AHEAD.
UH, SO THE DESIGN COST IS $15,000, AND THE CONSTRUCTION COST IS ESTIMATED TO BE $88,000 FOR A TOTAL OF 1 0 3.
AND AGAIN, THE SIGNIFICANT PART THERE, THE COST IS REALLY DRIVEN BY THE FACT THAT THESE POLLS ARE NEEDED.
UM, WE HAD EXHAUSTED SEVERAL POSSIBILITIES FOR GETTING, UH, FROM PULLING FROM A STOCKPILE WITH THE COUNTY, AND THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE AN OPTION.
SO WHAT'S DRIVING THAT COST IS REALLY THE NEED TO REPLACE THOSE POLE POLES AND THE FIXTURE ITSELF.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? YEAH, CAN I ASK ONE, UH, WILL THE DESIGN AND THE CONSTRUCTION, UH, IF WE DID NOTHING BE COVERED BY THE TAP APPLICATION? WE, THAT'S EXACTLY IT.
THE CHOICE WE HAVE NOW IS TO SEE WHAT WE MIGHT WANNA DO AS TOWN, OR THE OTHER OPTION IS TO LEAVE ALL OF THIS AND FOLD IT ALL INTO THAT TAP APPLICATION.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE BIG QUESTION MARK IS BECAUSE OF COVID, IT BEING DELAYED, AND WE STILL REALLY DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT WILL OPEN UP.
AND OF COURSE, IT WOULD DELAY THAT BECAUSE E BEST CASE SCENARIO, YOU, EVEN IF IT DID OPEN UP IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, YOU WOULD NEVER, YOU WOULD NOT GET AN AWARD NOTIFICATION UNTIL AT LEAST DECEMBER BEFORE THEN EVEN YOUR PRO IT COULD START, AND THEN YOU WOULD GO THROUGH ALL THE STEPS.
SO THERE WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT OF A TIME DELAY, BUT THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE.
UH, QUESTION FOR YOU, IF WE WAIT, THERE'S NOTHING STRUCTURALLY WRONG WITH THE POLLS AS THEY'RE SITTING OUT.
AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS IF WE WAIT TO FOLD EVERYTHING INTO THAT GRANT AND DO NOTHING, UH, ARE THE POLLS GONNA, ARE THEY GONNA LAST? YES, THE POLLS ARE FINE AT THE, AS THEY CURRENTLY STAND, YOU CANNOT ADD WEIGHT TO THEM WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT THEIR FOUNDATION CONDITION IS.
AND THAT INFORMATION WE DON'T HAVE.
SO THEY'RE STILL GOOD, AND IF WE CHOSE TO WAIT, WE'LL BE FINE.
I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION ON THE TAP GRANT.
UH, BETH, IF WE WERE TO GO AHEAD AND DO THIS PROJECT IN ADVANCE OF THE TAP GRANT, ARE THERE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WOULD FALL INTO THE, THIS TAP POSSIBILITY THAT WOULD SIMPLY REPLACE IT? OR IS THERE NOTHING ELSE THAT WOULD REPLACE IT, THAT THE TOWN IS GOING, WOULD BE, UH, WILLING TO OR ABLE TO AT THIS POINT TO APPLY? WELL, THE, THE TAP GRANT ITSELF, THE, THE APPLICATION, UM, AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY SCOPED OUT WAS FOR THAT WHOLE CORRIDOR FROM ARMOR AND CLARK ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE ROUNDABOUT AND DOWN SOUTH SOUTH PARK.
IT'S A, IT'S A LARGE MULTIMODAL PROJECT.
AND WHAT THIS WOULD DO, THE OPTION HERE IS WE WOULD TEASE OUT THESE FIRST PRELIMINARY STEPS IF WE FELT WE DIDN'T WANNA WAIT FOR THAT BECAUSE OF THE INTERSECTION.
GIVEN THAT I'VE SPOKEN TO THE BOARD ENOUGH TIMES ABOUT THIS INTERSECTION, I FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO COME BACK, UM, RATHER THAN JUST DELAYING IT AS PART OF THE, THE TAP PROCESS, UM, AND GIVING YOU THIS, THIS OPTION.
BUT THE, THE TAP APPLICATION WOULD STILL GO IN FOR THE ARMOR CORRIDOR MULTIMODAL.
IT JUST WOULDN'T HAVE POSSIBLY SOME OF THESE PIECES IN IT, YOU KNOW, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT IF SOME OF IT WAS DONE NOW, WOULD IT MAKE THE PRO ALMOST WOULD BE AN INVESTMENT ON THE TOWN'S PART? AND WOULD IT MAKE THE APPLICATION THAT MUCH STRONGER? POSSIBLY.
BUT THE PROJECT ITSELF, THE, THAT PROJECT WILL STILL GO AHEAD IF WE CHOOSE TO DO A FEW OF THESE PIECES NOW, IT JUST MEANS THAT THOSE FEW PIECES WOULD BE TEASED OUT, BUT THE LARGER PROJECT, WHICH IS QUITE LARGE, WOULD STILL GO AHEAD.
SO I'LL MOVE ON TO SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL OPTIONS IF EVERYONE IS READY.
SO IN DISCUSSION OF WHAT WOULD MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THIS INTERSECTION, UH, A LITTLE, UH, MORE, UM, SUBSTANTIAL AND A LITTLE MORE BENEFICIAL, UM, OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER, UH, SUGGESTED SOME RES STRIPING ON THE WEST SIDE OF CLARK, WHICH YOU CAN SEE HERE RIGHT NOW.
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FROM CLARK NEAR MCKINLEY, THERE'S A SINGLE LINE THAT ALLOWS YOU TO SEE THERE'S A TURNING LANE, AND IT DOESN'T QUEUE VERY WELL VEHICLES.SO YOU'LL HAVE MANY VEHICLES WHO ARE UNSURE WHAT LANE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE IN, OTHER VEHICLES THAT GO INTO ONE LANE AND THEN TRY TO SWING AROUND THE OTHER VEHICLES TO EITHER GO STRAIGHT OR TURN RIGHT.
UM, SO THIS IS A VERY, UH, SIMPLE OPTION THAT JUST IMPROVES TRAFFIC FLOW, UH, BY CREATING THIS SORT OF YELLOW STRIPED, UH, PORTION AND USING THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A WIDE SHOULDER HERE TO ACTUALLY JUST SWING THE LANE OUT A LITTLE BIT AND GIVE MORE DEFINITION BY ADDING SOME STRIPING, UH, STOP BAR AND, UH, SOME ARROWS.
UM, AND THAT OPTION WOULD BASICALLY ONLY BE ANOTHER $1,800 IN DESIGN AND $10,000 IN CONSTRUCTION.
UM, SO THAT'S A VERY MINOR ITEM THAT MAKES THE PROJECT LOOK A LITTLE MORE, UH, SUBSTANTIAL.
CAM, MAY I ASK YOU A QUESTION? MAY I ASK YOU A QUESTION? UH, ORIGINALLY WE DID A STUDY REGARDING THE INTERSECTION AND THE NEED FOR A NEW SIGNAL.
I THINK THAT STUDY BETH AND CAMIE WAS DONE AT THE END OF 2018, OR THE EARLY PART OF 2019, I THINK.
HOW MUCH DID WE SPEND ON THAT STUDY? DO YOU KNOW? IT WAS 13,000, I BELIEVE, CAMIE, IS THAT CORRECT? I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER IN FRONT OF ME.
I BELIEVE IT WAS, I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK IT UP.
AND GOING BACK TO, UM, I'M SORRY.
NO, BUT THAT STUDY WAS LIMITED TO, UH, THE QUESTION OF THE NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL WITH A, WITH A DIRECTIONAL TURN AND RETRIP, THAT WAS THE SCOPE OF THAT STUDY.
AND GOING BACK TO, UM, SEAN'S POINT, JUST SO YOU KNOW TOO, THESE, THESE ITEMS, IF WE CHOOSE TO FOLD THIS ALL, KEEP IT WITH THE TAP APPLICATION, THIS IS PLANNING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE, UM, AND WOULD YES, BECOME PART OF THAT TAP APPLICATION IF WE DON'T CHOOSE TO DO ANY PART OF IT NOW.
UM, AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE CONSULTATION WITH THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER, ET CETERA, THAT'S HELPED TO, UM, MAKE SOME DECI DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT WOULD BE BEST FOR THIS INTERSECTION FROM THAT, THAT STUDY.
AND IT WOULD BE A PIECE THEN OF THAT BIGGER ARMOR SOUTH PARK TAP APPLICATION.
BETH, UH, LET ME ASK YOU ONE MORE QUESTION AND, AND KAMI, UH, BETH, YOU AND I DISCUSSED, UH, THE, THE REQUESTS MADE BY, UH, RESIDENTS IN THE CLARK STREET AREA.
YOU YOU'LL REMEMBER THAT HEADING EAST ON CLARK FROM MCKINLEY INTO ARMOR, WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE SPEED LIMIT REDUCED FROM 35 MILES PER HOUR TO 30 MILES AN HOUR.
PEOPLE HAVE NOW ASKED AS YOU GO, UH, IN A WESTERLY DIRECTION TOWARD, UH, UH, THE CIRCLE ITSELF, THE ROUNDABOUT SOUTH PARK, WHETHER THAT STRIP OF CLARK, THAT SPEED LIMIT COULD BE REDUCED FROM 35 TO 30 O ONE SIDE OF THE STREET, OF COURSE, IS IT, UH, UH, BORDERS THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURG, THE OTHER, THE TOWN, UH, NOTHING PROHIBITS US IN CONNECTION WITH THE TAP APPLICATION TO GO FORWARD, UH, OR AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
ON THE QUESTION OF SPEED DUCTION FROM 35 TO 30, CORRECT? CORRECT.
FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE TAP APPLICA APPLICATION, CORRECT.
AND THEN THERE WAS ONE MORE OPTION THAT CAMIE WAS GOING TO GO OVER.
SO THE, THE LAST OPTION THAT WE WANTED TO GO OVER WAS WE LOOKED AT, UH, PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC SPECIFICALLY, UM, BOTH SAFETY AND FLOW, UH, OF PEDESTRIANS THROUGHOUT THIS INTERSECTION.
AND WHAT WE NOTICED IS, UM, CLARK ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE WESTERN PORTION OF CLARK, THERE IS A SIDEWALK THAT SORT OF SUDDENLY ENDS.
AND THEN MCKINLEY HAS A SIMILAR SITUATION GOING ON ON THE WEST SIDE.
THE SIDEWALK COMES UP, AND THEN IT ENDS BEFORE THESE LAST SORT OF TWO LOTS THAT YOU SEE AT THE END.
UM, SO THIS WOULD BASICALLY, UM, EXTEND THOSE SIDEWALKS AND PUT HANDICAP RAMPS, UM, ON THIS, UH, SOUTHWEST CORNER AND THEN ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER, AND, UH, PUT A STRIPED A SIDE, A CROSSWALK THROUGH THE INTERSECTION.
THIS IS PROPOSE RIGHT NOW IS UNSIGNED, SO IT WOULD BE SIMPLY, UM, CURRENTLY ANYONE CROSSING IN THIS INTERSECTION.
IT HAS NO SIGNALS TO WALK, HAS NO CROSSWALK TO WALK THROUGH.
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WHEN YOU HEAD TOWARDS THE, UH, NORTHWEST OF THIS INTERSECTION, WE ARE TALKING FAIRGROUNDS AND THOSE ACTIVITIES AS WELL AS PARKING, YOU KNOW, IN THIS FIELD AND SO ON.SO WE FELT THAT IT WAS THE ONLY PLACE WHERE THERE WAS ROOM FOR A PEDESTRIAN WITHOUT A MAJOR CHANGE TO THIS INTERSECTION.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE INTERSECTION IS QUITE WIDE IN SOME PLACES THE STOP BARS DO NOT LINE UP CURRENTLY WHERE YOU COULD HAVE CROSSWALKS.
UM, BUT WE FELT THAT THIS WAS A FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD ADDITION THAT WOULD ACTUALLY ADD A PEDESTRIAN ASPECT.
SHOULD YOU APPLY AGAIN FOR TAP MONEY OR NOT? IT, IT PROVIDES, UH, GREAT VALUE, WE THINK, TO WORK IN THIS AREA.
UH, THE ADDITION OF THAT WOULD BE, UH, $5,200 IN DESIGN AND ABOUT $50,000 IN CONSTRUCTION.
UM, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY WE WOULD COME BACK WITH MORE COMPETITIVE BIDS.
SO THE GRAND TOTAL, IF YOU WANTED TO DO ALL THREE OPTIONS, UM, DESIGN WOULD BE $22,000.
CONSTRUCTION WOULD BE $148,000, WHICH TOTAL IS $170,000.
AND AGAIN, THESE THREE OPTIONS CAN REMAIN AS PART OF THE TAP APPLICATION WHEN THAT OPENS UP, BUT WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WILL OPEN UP.
AND I FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO BRING THIS BACK TO ALL OF YOU TO, UM, SEE IF THERE WAS ANY FEELINGS REGARDING WHETHER WE SHOULD LOOK AT, AT MOVING AHEAD ON ANY OF THIS NOW, OR WHETHER EVERYONE WAS COMFORTABLE WITH IT BEING PART OF OUR TAP APPLICATION, THE TAP APPLICATION, EVERYTHING WAS DESIGNED SO THAT WE WILL BUILD UPON THAT.
WE WON'T, IF WE GET OTHER PROJECTS GOING, HAVE TO COME BACK AND UNDO ANYTHING THAT WAS ALREADY DONE.
SO EACH ONE REALLY DOES, EACH PIECE BUILDS UPON, UH, THE PREVIOUS PIECE.
SO THE PREVIOUS OPTION, I JUST HAVE A FEW COMMENTS.
UM, FIRST OFF, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WONDERFUL TO SEE, UM, THE PROGRESS.
UM, SO BETH, UH, AND CAMMY AND I KNOW, UH, MARK MALKI, UH, DEFINITELY THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO, TO LOOK INTO THIS AND PURSUE IT.
UM, BEING IN THE ARMOR SECTION MYSELF, UH, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE INTERSECTION.
UM, AND THERE'S BEEN A GROUP OF NEIGHBORS THROUGHOUT THE LAST, PROBABLY NOW FIVE YEARS, THAT HAVE REALLY, YOU KNOW, TRIED, UM, TO, YOU KNOW, EXPRESS THEIR CONCERNS.
UM, I KNOW THE HAMBURG MOVES COMMITTEE'S, AWARE OF IT, UH, THE TRAIL, HAMBURG TRAILS COMMITTEE'S, BEEN AWARE OF IT, UM, MORE ON THE PEDESTRIAN SIDE.
SO IN TERMS OF WHAT, WHAT I'M SEEING HERE, UM, OPTION ONE, THE LEFT TURN SIGNALS FROM CLARK OUTSTANDING, I SEE THAT IS A HUGE IMPROVEMENT TO THE INTERSECTION.
UM, NUMBER TWO, THE CLARK TURNING LANE ALSO OUTSTANDING.
I THINK THAT MAKES A TON OF SENSE AND WOULD BE EXTREMELY HELPFUL.
UM, AND, AND NUMBER THREE, THAT'S WHERE I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF, OF SOME QUESTIONS.
IT'S NOT THAT IT'S, UH, NOT A BAD IDEA BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE 10 DAYS OF THE FAIR, THAT WOULD BE PHENOMENAL FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE WALKING IN THE DIRECTION OF THE FAIR.
UM, HOWEVER, THE BIGGEST CONCERN WITH THIS INTERSECTION IS REALLY ALL THE RESIDENTS IN ARMOR.
UM, HUNDREDS OF FAMILIES, UH, NOT ONLY IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, BUT ALSO, UH, UM, HAMBURG STUDENTS THAT LIVE IN OTHER AREAS, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TOWARDS ORCHARD PARK, UM, THAT RIDE THEIR BIKES, THAT WALK, UM, THAT EXERCISE AND GO RIGHT THROUGH THIS INTERSECTION.
AND WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, UH, THIS DIAGRAM, UM, THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S BRINGING SAFETY TO THE PEOPLE FROM ARMOR GOING INTO THE VILLAGE.
AND IF YOU THINK, AND, AND ABOUT ALL THE, YOU KNOW, THE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC, THAT'S REALLY WHERE MOST PEOPLE ARE HEADING IS TO THE VILLAGE.
UM, THEY'RE NOT HEADING UP MCKINLEY AWAY FROM THE VILLAGE, YOU KNOW, AND AWAY FROM, YOU KNOW, THAT AREA.
SO, UH, MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO REALLY HAVE THE SAFETY PEDE, THE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ASPECT, UM, ENHANCED BY HAVING, UH, THE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY COMING FROM THE, UM, ARMOR SIDE OF CLARK ACROSS MCKINLEY CONNECTING TO THE SIDEWALK.
UM, AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, I HATE TO SAY A, A BRIDGE TO NOWHERE, BUT GOING TO, UM, THE ONE INTERSECTION THAT REALLY DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING.
AND, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT OTHER THAN THE FAIR, WHEN THE FAIR IS OPEN, OPEN THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE THAT MANY PEOPLE HEADING THAT DIRECTION WHEN YOU COULD COMPARE THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC FLOW, UM, GOING FROM THE VILLAGE TO ARMOR AND FROM ARMOR TO THE VILLAGE.
SO THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY RECOMMENDATION.
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COULD BE ADDED, UM, IT'S, IT'S STILL NOT GONNA BE THE SAFEST INTERSECTION, BUT IT'S GONNA BE MASSIVELY IMPROVED.AND IT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, THE ARMOR RESIDENTS HAVE TALKED FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER THAT THIS IS AN INTERSECTION THAT IS AN ACCIDENT WAITING TO HAPPEN.
AND WHEN I SEE THE $170,000 PRICE TAG, AND I THINK ABOUT THE, THE FACT THAT WE'VE BEEN VERY LUCKY THIS FAR.
I KNOW THERE'S BEEN ACCIDENTS, BUT THERE HASN'T BEEN TRAGIC ACCIDENTS THAT THAT WOULD BE MONEY WELL SPENT AND IS DESPERATELY NEEDED.
UM, AND ALL IT WOULD TAKE IS ONE REALLY, YOU KNOW, UH, SIGNIFICANT TRAGIC ACCIDENT THAT THAT WOULD PROBABLY PUSH TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS DONE.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE SAW AT DELAWARE PARK.
THAT'S WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN OTHER AREAS OF WESTERN NEW YORK.
UH, LET'S NOT BE ONE OF THOSE COMMUNITIES TO JUST WAIT FOR A TRAGIC ACCIDENT.
LET'S TRY TO, YOU KNOW, BE PROACTIVE AND, AND GET AND SEE THIS THING THROUGH.
IT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, GREAT WORK.
THIS DESIGN IS EXTREMELY EXCITING TO SEE.
AND I KNOW, UH, THE RESIDENT IN IN ARMOR WILL BE ECSTATIC.
UM, BUT I DO FEEL LIKE, UM, THERE'S SOME IMPROVEMENT TO, YOU KNOW, BEFORE IT GETS TO THE FINISH LINE.
SEAN, THANKS FOR THAT, THAT INPUT.
AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, A LOT OF WHAT YOU DESCRIBED IS EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO BE IN THE, THE NEXT PHASE, WHICH IS WHAT'LL BE COVERED BY THE TAP APPLICATION, UM, BECAUSE IT'LL LOOK AT THAT, THE WHOLE MULTIMODAL QUESTION ALL THE WAY FROM ARMOR, UM, UP AT THE NEXT JUNCTURE, WHICH IS ALSO DIFFICULT, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE ROUNDABOUT OF BUFFALO STREET AND OUT SOUTH PARK.
SO, AND IT WAS THOUGHT THAT, YOU KNOW, IMPROVEMENTS AT THIS INTERSECTION WOULD FEED INTO THAT, THAT BIGGER PROJECT.
THE, UH, LARGER TAP GRANT WILL LOOK TO TRY TO IMPROVE ALL FACETS OF CONNECTIVITY, WALKABILITY, UM, PEDESTRIAN SAFETY THROUGH THAT WHOLE ENTIRE CORRIDOR, BECAUSE I AGREE, I THINK IT'S, UM, DEFINITELY NEEDED.
I'VE GOT A, ANYTHING ELSE, BETH, ON THIS TOPIC? I'VE GOT A COMMENT.
UM, I THINK IT'S CLEAR, JUST LOOKING AT THE DRAWING, THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO ADD THE TURNING SIGNALS, WE'RE ABSOLUTELY GONNA HAVE TO REDEFINE THOSE LEFT LANES.
AND WHILE WE'RE DOING THAT, LOOKING AT THE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY STANDPOINT, I AGREE WITH WHAT SEAN SAID, UM, BUT I'M ALSO WONDERING IF THERE'S, I MEAN, MORE FUNDING ROLLING OUT THAT'S BECOMING AVAILABLE.
I KNOW THE G-B-N-R-T-C IS IMPLEMENTING A LOT OF PROGRAMS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH, YOU KNOW, BICYCLE SAFETY, PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, THAT IS OFFERING SOME ADDITIONAL GRANT FUNDING THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO COVER THINGS.
UM, ARE THERE ANY UPDATES ON THAT? WELL, WE HAVE MARK MAKI'S WORK, THAT'S WHERE HIS WHEELHOUSE IS.
SO HE'S LOOKING AT ALL OF THOSE ANGLES AND HE'S KIND ALWAYS, UM, CONSTANTLY LOOKING FOR WHERE WE CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, PUT PIECES OF THIS.
AGAIN, I DID NOT WANNA LET ANY MORE TIME GO BY WITHOUT CIRCLING BACK TO THE BOARD WITH THIS, BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT PREVIOUSLY, AND AT THIS JUNCTURE, THERE WERE NO OTHER FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES, YOU KNOW, IN THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE.
I WANTED TO AT LEAST GET THIS INFORMATION TO EVERYONE.
OH, WHAT DO YOU SAY FOLKS? ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS TOP? OKAY.
UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION.
HOWEVER, IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS SOME PROJECTS THAT ARE PENDING OR ISSUES THAT NEED OUR ATTENTION, I'M HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN THEM.
ANYTHING ELSE? IF, IF I, UH, IF I CAN GO OVER, UH, I HAVE A COUPLE AGENDA ITEMS JUST TO BRIEFLY WORK.
WELL, WE'LL GET TO THE AGENDA IN JUST A MINUTE.
OUTSIDE OF THE AGENDA, DID YOU WANT ME TO GIVE A QUICK UPDATE? WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK ON, UM, THE SCHOOL ZONE SPEED REDUCTION ON AMSTEL WALTER'S BEEN WORKING ON THAT WITH KATE.
WE HAD A COUPLE OF INTERESTING NEW THINGS COME UP THERE.
UH, BUT WE, AND WE'VE ALSO GOTTEN THE FEEDBACK, UH, FROM THE, UH, ACTING, OR EXCUSE ME, THE INTERIM SUPERINTENDENT AT FRONTIER.
SO THEY'VE GIVEN THEIR INPUT AS FAR AS THE HOURS FOR THAT.
SO WE'RE JUST WORKING OUT A FEW OTHER THINGS, BUT THAT SHOULD BE PROGRESSING.
WALTER, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING MORE? WERE YOU ABLE TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF ANYTHING WITH THE 50 MILE AN HOUR WITH KATE? I TALKED TO THE, I TALKED TO KATE AND I'VE TALKED TO THE CHIEF EARLIER TODAY, AND HE WAS GONNA TALK TO KATE BECAUSE HE HAD SOME QUESTIONS FOR KATE AS WELL.
UM, AND I, I GOT SOME, I GOT SOME INFORMATION THAT JIM HAD FORWARDED ME REGARDING SOME INFORMATION REGARDING THE COUNTY'S ASPECT OF EVERYTHING.
AND I ALSO RECEIVED A GRANT REGARDING INTER MO INTERMODAL LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT REGARDING SDA, UM, WHICH I THINK WOULD FEED
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INTO THIS AS WELL.UM, IT LITERALLY CAME IN MY, I SAW IT THIS AFTERNOON.
I, I SENT A COPY OF IT TO JIM, UM, AND TO MARK POLUSKI TO MAKE SURE THEY HAD IT IN THEIR HANDS.
I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO REALLY READ IT YET, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S INVOLVED WITH THAT.
UM, BUT I'M HOPING TO TALK TO THE CHIEF HOPEFULLY TOMORROW.
AGAIN, UH, BETH AND WALTER, UH, BETH AND WALTER, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF ISSUES, UH, THERE.
THAT, THAT, AGAIN, I THINK THE NEIGHBORS, UH, IN THE DALE BRIARCLIFF AREA, UH, HAVE REALLY BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, AMS DALE FROM ROUTE 20, IT'S INTERSECTION TO ROUTE 20 TO THE INTERSECTION AT ROUTE FIVE IS 35 MILES PER HOUR.
I THINK THAT'S ANALOGOUS TO THE CIRCUMSTANCES ON CLARK STREET WHERE WE MIGHT WANT CONSIDER 30.
AND THEN WALTER, UH, WHEN WE GET TO THE SCHOOLS ZONE IN THE AMESVILLE, UH, JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL, UH, THERE WAS AN ORDINANCE DRAFTED WAY BACK IN 68, RIGHT.
WHICH TALKED ABOUT A 15 MILE PER HOUR SPEED LIMIT IN THAT SCHOOL ZONE.
DO YOU THINK THAT STILL HAS EFFICACY TODAY? I WOULD THINK SO.
I'M GONNA REACH OUT TO THE COUNTY ONCE, ONCE I FOLLOW UP WITH THE CHIEF AND HE TALKS TO KATE.
I WANNA TALK TO THE COUNTY ABOUT THAT AND POINT THAT OUT TO THEM.
'CAUSE I BELIEVE THAT'S A COUNTY ROAD.
UM, SO WE NEED, OBVIOUSLY THEIR INPUT IN ALL OF THIS.
AND IF WE, YOU KNOW, AS OPPOSED TO DOING A NEW RESOLUTION, WE CAN SAY IT ALREADY IS 15, SO THEY MIGHT BE ON BOARD WITH THAT.
AND PRIOR TO FINDING OUT THAT THERE WAS THIS ON THE BOOKS FOR 15 MILES AN HOUR, IT HAD BEEN THE TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION TO REQUEST A 25 MILE AN HOUR, UM, SCHOOL ZONE SPEED REDUCTION FROM THE CURRENTLY POSTED 35.
WELL, I GUESS MORE INFORMATION WE'RE GONNA GET, LADIES AND GENTS.
UM, SO HAVING SAID THAT, ANYTHING ELSE THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA, ANY ITEMS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT YOU'D LIKE, UH, US TO KICK AROUND, I'M HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN 'EM.
IF NOT, WE'LL GO TO THE AGENDA AND WE'LL GO DOWN THE LINE AND, UH, MIKE P OR OTHERS CAN BRING UP WHAT THEY WANNA BRING UP ON THE AGENDA.
UH, OBVIOUSLY THE FIRST COUPLE OF THINGS ARE PRETTY EASY.
THAT IS QUITE, HE STARTED IN 1973.
UH, EVERYTHING ELSE I THINK IS PRETTY STANDARD.
THERE'S NOT MUCH TO KICK AROUND.
UH, WE ADD, WE'RE ADDING A COUPLE PEOPLE.
NUMBER SIX, KIM FINLEY AND BARBARA DOLE.
WERE SOMEHOW LEFT OFF THE SHORELINE REVITALIZATION COMMITTEE ROSTER WHEN WE GOT TOGETHER FOR OUR REORGANIZATIONAL MEETING, SO THAT'S EASY ENOUGH.
THE NEXT ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS THE AIM FUNDING AND THE VLT FUNDING.
AS YOU FOLKS KNOW, UH, THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSED BUDGET, UH, AS, AS, UH, IT DID WHAT IT DID LAST YEAR, IT PROPOSED THE FULL ELIMINATION OF VLT MONEY.
WE WERE GETTING 860,000, AND THEN IT WAS CUT LAST YEAR BY 20% DOWN TO 6 92.
UH, AND THEN OF COURSE, UH, THAT RESTORED $692,000, AND NOW WE'RE FACING THE SAME THING ALONG WITH A 20% REDUCTION IN AIM FUNDING.
SO, UH, HOPEFULLY YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THAT RESOLUTION.
UH, NUMBER EIGHT IS JUST SIMPLY, UH, THE RESULT OF THE RESOLUTION OF A GRIEVANCE.
UH, WITH THE, WITH THE POWER UNION, WE HAVE TO CREATE A, WE'RE BUMPING A LABORER'S POSITION TO A MAINTENANCE WORKER'S POSITION IN THE BLUE COLLAR UNIT AS IT RELATES TO BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS.
SO THIS GENTLEMAN IS, UH, THERE ON SENIORITY, SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH A DONE DEAL.
UH, LET'S SEE, WITH REGARD TO BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS
HOWEVER, THE SENIOR CENTER IS REOPENING ON A DAILY BASIS GIVEN THE GOVERNOR'S ELIMINATION OF CODE ORANGE.
SO WE NEED TO BRING THESE PART-TIME CLEANERS BACK TO ASSIST WITH MAINTAINING THAT BUILDING.
SO THAT'S THE, UH, RATIONALE FOR THAT.
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UH, NUMBER 10, UH, THIS IS THE REQUEST FROM BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS TO, UH, A PURCHASE A FORD, UH, F FOUR 50 SUPER DUTY TRUCK.AND THEY GIVE YOU THE RATIONALIZATION AS TO WHY THEY SAY IT'S NECESSARY, UH, BELOW THE RESOLUTION.
SO YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
UH, ON THE HIRING, UH, I DID A, A NUMBER 11, AND THE CHIEF DID A NUMBER 11.
SO, UH, LAST FRIDAY I THREW MINE OUT AND WE PUT THE CHIEFS IN.
AND, UH, SO THAT'S WHY IT WAS CALLED AN AMENDED AGENDA FRIDAY AFTERNOON.
BUT THIS IS THE STORY ON THE LATERAL TRANSFERS, MR. LA AND MR. DINI, THESE GENTLEMEN COME TO US FROM, UH, THE TOWNSHIP OF EVANS.
AND AS YOU MAY KNOW, UH, WE HAD THE RETIREMENTS OCCUR, UH, LAST, LAST FRIDAY WITH THE GENTLEMAN WHO HAVE LEFT, LEFT US.
UH, WE'LL HAVE A CHANCE TO GREET MR. LA AND MR. DIVINITY LATER ON WHEN WE'RE NOT, UH, IN A VIRTUAL MODE.
UM, I AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS COMPLETELY, BUT I DID, UM, WANT TO FULLY DISCLOSE THE FACT THAT I DO KNOW MR. LAROSA IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WHERE I WORK.
HIS, UH, WIFE IS EMPLOYED AND HIS SON DOES ATTEND.
SO I JUST WANTED TO, UM, LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT AHEAD OF TIME.
WELL, THE FACT THAT YOU KNOW HIM DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE.
I JUST FOR CONFLICT OF, I WANTED TO BE VERY UPFRONT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT I, I HAD, I HAVE, UH, A, A, A PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF MR. ROSO IN A DIFFERENT CAPACITY AS A PARENT AND, UH, AND WORKING WITH HIS SPOUSE.
I JUST, FOR TRANSPARENCY, WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.
UH, THE NEXT ONE IS, UH, ADAMIC AND MILLIE.
THESE ARE NEW HIRES, AND, UH, MR. ADAMIC IS MOTHER USED TO BE MY LEGAL SECRETARY, SO I'M DISCLOSING TOO, SO I DON'T, THERE YOU GO.
WELL, IT'S BASICALLY A SMALL COMMUNITY.
EVERYBODY KNOWS SOMEBODY, BUT IN ANY EVENT, UH, THE, THESE ARE THE TWO NEW FOLKS THAT COME ON.
UM, THE PERSONNEL CLERK, THIS IS THE NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS.
UH, LET ME SAY TO YOU, UH, THAT IT IS LUC STRAUSS'S RECOMMENDATION THAT WE HIRE THE PERSONNEL, THE SENIOR PERSONNEL CLERK FIRST, AND THEN HIRE THE ASSISTANT SECOND.
UH, AND IF THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTION AS TO THE, UH, REASONABILITY OF SUCH A SUGGESTION, WE CAN BRING ALYSSA INTO THE CONVERSATION.
BUT IN ANY EVENT, UH, THESE INDIVIDUALS, UH, WERE INTERVIEWED BY A, THERE WERE SIX APPLICANTS, AND, UH, ALYSSA INTERVIEWED SIX OF THEM.
AND THEN, UH, WE GOT, SHE GOT THE LIST DOWN TO TWO.
SHE INVITED ME TO VIEW, UH, THE TWO FINALISTS.
I, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA, AND I WANNA GET YOUR ADVICE ON THIS, BUT WHEN WE ARE HIRING PROVISIONAL EMPLOYEES WHO ARE NOT UNION EMPLOYEES OR, UH, WHO DON'T, AREN'T GOVERNED BY SENIORITY OR REHIRE, FOR EXAMPLE, IT'S ALWAYS GOOD, I THINK TO HAVE THE DEPARTMENT HEAD AND THE LIAISON, UH, MEET WITH THE CANDIDATES SO THAT, UH, YOU GET, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BROADER PERSPECTIVE AS TO QUALIFICATIONS.
I ONLY MET WITH TWO OF THE SIX.
UH, I WILL WILL SAY THAT, UH, ONE, I DON'T KNOW AMANDA LYLE, BUT SECONDLY, SHE CERTAINLY HAS AN IMPRESSIVE RESUME AND SHE REALLY WAS VERY IMPRESSIVE IN HER INTERVIEW.
SO THAT'S ALL I CAN TELL YOU ABOUT THAT.
ANYTHING ELSE, LADIES AND JENS AND I, WELL, I INVITED YOU ALL TO ATTEND.
IT'S TOUGH SOMETIMES TO GET PEOPLE DURING THE WORKDAY.
GO AHEAD, BETH, I JUST HAVE ONE OTHER QUICK QUESTION.
UM, WELL CONGRATULATIONS TO, TO ALYSSA TO, WELL, UH, SHE HAS BIG SHOES TO FILL HERE AND I VERY MUCH ENJOYED WORKING
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WITH HER, ESPECIALLY ON THE UPGRADE OF THE PAYCHEX, UM, PROGRAM AND, AND PLATFORM AND THE DIRECTION WE WERE HEADING WITH SOME OF, WITH THE PERSONNEL SUITE.SO I GUESS THE QUESTION I HAVE THOUGH IS, UH, WHAT IF SHE COULD COMMENT ON, ON THE PROGRESS THERE, ON THE PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING IN, ARE THEY FAMILIAR AND WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE OVER AND WILL THERE BE SOME TYPE OF A, UH, TIMEFRAME AND SCHEDULE FOR THE REST OF THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT UPGRADE? AND JUST ANY COMMENTS SHE HAS REGARDING THAT IN THE, THE, UM, CONTINUATION OF THAT PROJECT? HI, BETH, IT'S ALYSSA.
SO AS FOR THE PAYCHEX UPGRADE, WE DID RECEIVE THE TIME CLOCKS, SO THAT PORTION'S KIND OF ALREADY ROLLING.
UM, AS FOR THE UPGRADE ITSELF IN THE SYSTEM, I HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH THE DIFFERENT TEAMS IN PAYCHECKS.
AND, UM, THE PROCESS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT THAN THEY ANTICIPATED WITH US WANTING TO AUDIT THE SYSTEM AND REALLY LOOK INTO MAKING SURE CODINGS CORRECTLY SINCE WE DO HAVE TO DO SO MANY MANUAL CHANGES, EACH PAYROLL.
UM, SO IT'S TAKING A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN ANTICIPATED.
HOWEVER, AMANDA, WHO IS MY RECOMMENDATION, SHE HAS EXPERIENCE NOT WITH PAYCHEX, BUT WITH KRONOS, WHICH IS OUR, ACTUALLY OUR OLD TIME CLOCK SYSTEM AS WELL AS A DP, WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR TO PAYCHEX.
SO I HAVE, UM, A LOT OF CONFIDENCE THAT SHE'LL, SHE'LL BE ABLE TO TAKE ON THE PROJECT AND FINISH WHAT WE DON'T GET DONE IN MY, IN THE REST OF MY TIME HERE.
AND YOU'LL HAVE THAT MAPPED OUT FOR HER AS FAR AS THE, THE TIMELINE AND THE NEXT STEPS THAT WERE MAPPED OUT THAT WE HAD MAPPED OUT FOR THE REST OF 2021 AND 2022.
YEAH, SO I HAVE IT FOR WHOEVER WE END UP HIRING FOR MY, AS MY REPLACEMENT.
IT'S DEFINITELY ONE OF THE AREAS THAT I WOULD INCLUDE IN TRAINING AND SHOW THE TIMELINE TO.
NOW, NOW THIS, UH, THIS PERSON AMANDA LYLE WILL START RIGHT AWAY.
UH, AND ALYSSA WILL BE WITH US UNTIL, UH, ALYSSA, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MARCH THE 15TH.
UH, YOUR LAST DAY IS APRIL ONE, BUT YOU GOT A COUPLE OF VACATION WEEKS, I GUESS, AM I RIGHT? UH, MY LAST DAY IS GOING TO BE MARCH 19TH, SO THAT'S A PAYROLL WEEK.
SO IT KIND OF BRINGS IT FULL CIRCLE.
SO HOPEFULLY WE'VE GOT SIX OR SEVEN WEEKS FOR YOU TO BE WORKING WITH AMANDA.
THAT SHOULD, THAT SHOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO HER.
SHE'LL HAVE A LOT MORE TIME IN AN UNDERSTUDY CAPACITY THAN YOU HAD WHEN YOU CAME IN.
UH, AND THEN WE'VE GOTTA HIRE, WE'VE GOTTA HIRE THE NUMBER TWO PERSON IN THAT DEPARTMENT, UM, BECAUSE WE ARE WITHOUT AN ASSISTANT AS WELL.
UH, MIKE PETRI, YOU, YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LAKE AVENUE THERE, THAT'S ONE OF YOURS.
ALRIGHT, SO, UH, ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO, ROGER CALLED ME FROM, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT IN REGARDS TO THIS, UH, PROPERTY IN, UH, WOODLAWN ON LAKE AVENUE.
SO WE WENT DOWN THERE AND LOOKED AT IT.
UH, YOU KNOW, YOU HATE TO TAKE DOWN A, A HOME IN A NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT LEAVES YOU A SPACE AND YOU'RE LOSING YOUR ASSESSMENT.
UH, BUT THE PROPERTY IS, IS DANGER.
THE WHOLE BASICALLY WINDWARD
AND, UH, IT'S ROTTED IN NUMEROUS PLACES ALONG THE SILL PLATE AND THE HOUSE NEXT TO A DOWN WIND FROM IT IS ONLY ABOUT 10 FEET AWAY.
AND THIS HOUSE IS 30 FEET HIGH, AND IF WE GOT BAD WIND IT, IT COULD REALLY DO SOME DAMAGE.
SO, UH, I'M FULLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS.
UH, AGAIN, YOU DON'T WANNA KNOCK A HOUSE DOWN, BUT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A CHOICE HERE.
IF I MAY ADD, UH, CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? YEAH, ROD.
THE, UM, WINDSTORM IN MID-NOVEMBER, NOVEMBER 15TH, I THINK IT WAS, UM, THE NEIGHBORS NEXT DOOR, BOTH SUSTAINED DEBRIS AND WINDOWS THAT WERE BLOWN OUT, UH, FROM THE STORM.
AND OUR DEPARTMENT'S BEEN FIELDING COMPLAINTS ON THIS PROPERTY PROBABLY FOR THE LAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS, AND IT'S JUST BEEN DETERIORATING BY THE WEEK.
AND, UH, IT'S UNFORTUNATELY IT'S TIME TO COME DOWN.
UH, THE NEXT ONE, UH, IS NUMBER 15 ON THE AGENDA.
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UH, THERE WAS A PROPOSAL TO, UH, REZONE PROPERTY AT 28 19 LAKEVIEW ROAD.UH, HAROLD MONCTON FAMILY TRUST AS THE OWNER, THE, THE APPLICATION WAS PAID AND FILED WITH THE PLANNING BOARD AND TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
AND, UH, UH, THE ATTORNEY FOR THE TRUST HAS BEEN ASKING FOR, UH, THE FILING FEE BACK BECAUSE THEY NEVER WENT THROUGH WITH THE APPLICATION.
I'VE TALKED WITH SARAH DEJA, DAN AND SARAH INDICATES THAT PAST PRACTICE HAS BEEN THAT IF INDEED THE APPLICATION HAS NOT BEEN ACTED UPON, THAT WE GENERALLY REFUND PURSUANT TO BOARD APPLI, BOARD RESOLUTION, THE APPLICATION FEE.
SO THAT'S, UH, SARAH'S RECOMMENDATION AND THAT'S THE UNDERPINNING OF THE MOTION.
UH, MR. CONLEY, UH, I DON'T THINK ON NUMBER 16, NOT TOO MUCH THERE, RIGHT? YEAH, THIS IS, UH, THIS, SORRY, JIM.
UH, THIS IS JUST ONE EMPLOYEE THAT'S, UH, PART-TIME, THAT'S A TERMINATION.
UH, BETH, YOU'VE GOT NUMBER 17 THERE AND, UH, NUMBER 18.
SO YOU GO AHEAD ON THAT, THAT YES, BOTH ARE FROM THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT.
BOTH ARE, UM, ITEMS THAT TED SPOKE TO US ABOUT AT THE END OF OUR LAST MEETING AND GAVE AN EXPLANATION.
HE INCLUDED THE DESCRIPTION IN THE, UM, ATTACHED INFORMATION.
AND THE RESOLUTION ITSELF IS ACTUALLY POSTED ON, ON BOTH PAGES.
I'LL READ THIS, THE SECOND ONE BECAUSE IT HAS THE ACCOUNT NUMBER.
ON THAT SECOND PAGE, THERE'S PART OF IT ABOVE THE DESCRIPTION AND THEN THE ACCOUNT NUMBERS LISTED BELOW THE DESCRIPTION, YEAH.
FOR BOTH OF THOSE RESOLUTIONS.
SO THAT'S, UH, HE OFFERS THE RATIONALE AS TO WHY THE BRUSH STRIPPER THEN IS NECESSARY.
UH, AND THEN YOU WANNA HANDLE THE NEXT ONE.
AND THE NEXT IS, IS SIMILAR, IT'S FOR THE GRAPPLE TRUCK, SAME THING, IT'S ON THE ATTACHMENT, IT HAS THE DESCRIPTION, WHICH IS WHAT HE EXPLAINED TO US AT OUR LAST MEETING, THE RATIONALE FOR THAT.
AND THEN IT ALSO LISTS THE ACCOUNT NUMBER.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT, FOLKS? FOR THESE THINGS ARE EXPENSIVE, I THINK.
THIS IS CLOCK TOWER REPAIRS, UH, THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN OUR WORK SESSION TO GET AN RFP TO GET THIS, UH, TO GET VARIOUS PROPOSALS AND COSTS OUT RIGHT AWAY, UH, TO HAVE IT READY FOR OUR REVIEW ON 2 22.
WE DON'T HAVE TO REVIEW THIS ONCE IT'S PREPARED, IF WE AUTHORIZE IT, BUT I WANT EVERYBODY TO BE ON BOARD AND, UH, GO THROUGH IT TOGETHER ON THE 22ND SO THAT WE'RE FIRMLY IN PLACE AS TO WHAT WE GOTTA DO.
SO THAT'S THE UNDERPINNING FOR THIS RESOLUTION.
ANYTHING ON THAT, FOLKS? OKAY.
NUMBER 20, CONSERVATION EASEMENT.
WELL, THIS IS INTERESTING ONE, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU GOT MY MEMO ON FRIDAY.
UH, THIS MR. AND MRS. BONAR EVIDENTLY PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY AND BUILT A HOME ON IT ON 2015.
YEAR 2015, BACK IN 97, THERE WAS A CONSERVATION EASEMENT, WHICH RAN ALONG THE, UH, WHAT IS NOW LAKE CREST, UH, AND SEGREGATED PROPERTIES, PRIVATE PROPERTIES THAT WERE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE LAKE, ON THE OLD LAKE SHORE ROAD.
AND WHAT YOU HAVE BETWEEN LAKE CREST AND THE OLD LAKE SHORE ROAD IS A PRETTY THICK BUFFER OF BRUSH WEEDS, UH, AND SMALL TREES.
THERE MAY BE SOME WETLAND BACK THERE TOO, I DON'T KNOW.
SO IN ANY EVENT, MR. AND MRS. BONARD MADE AN APPLICATION, UH, TO THE PLANNING BOARD TO GET, UH, AMENDMENTS, TO ALLOW THEM TO PUT UP A STORAGE BARN, UM, ON, AT THE REAR OF THEIR PROPERTY.
BUT THE PROBLEM WAS THE STORAGE BARN, WHERE THEY WANNA
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PUT IT WAS ON THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT.SO, UH, THE PLANNING BOARDS REFERRED IT TO ENGINEERING AND ENGINEERING MADE A DETERMINATION, AND THEN THE PLANNING BOARD ACTED UPON ENGINEERING'S RECOMMENDATION AND VOTED TO TURN IT DOWN, TURN THE REQUEST DOWN, UH, AND THEN IT WAS TO COME BACK TO THE TOWN BOARD MEETING WITH A RESOLUTION YOU SEE HERE BACK IN NOVEMBER TO UPHOLD THE DETERMINATION OF THE PLANNING BOARD, THEREBY, UH, DENYING THE REQUEST THAT MR. AND MRS. BONAR MADE.
WELL, MRS. BONAR CALLED ME UP AND SAID, MR. SHAW, THEY, THEY DIDN'T, THE PLANNING BOARD DIDN'T CONSIDER OUR, OUR ARGUMENTS AND OUR, OUR JUSTIFICATIONS.
SO I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, WELL, I BETTER TAKE A RIDE OUT THERE AND SEE WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO I DID THAT AND, UH, UH, MR. AND MRS. BONS, WHO WERE VERY, VERY NICE, SHOWED ME WHERE THEY WANTED TO PUT UP, PUT THE STORAGE BARN.
THEY HAVE A YARD THAT IS, UH, YOU KNOW, ALL GRASSED, AND THEY WANTED TO PLAY FOR TWO POSSIBLE LOCATIONS.
THEY WANTED TO, ONE OF THE LOCATIONS WOULD BE ON THE REAR OF THE YARD WITHOUT DISTURBING ANY TREES OR BRUSH OR, OR SHRUBBERY.
SO, AS I LOOKED AT IT AND, AND WALK THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU CAN'T SEE IT.
THE BONARD ARE AT THE END OF LAKECREST, WHICH IS A DEAD END ROAD.
SO THE NEIGHBORS TO THEIR, THEIR E TO THE EAST ON THE LEFT, CAN'T SEE, COULDN'T SEE IT GIVEN THE TREE LINES.
AND THE KOVICH PROPERTY, WHICH IS ON OLD LAKESHORE ROAD, IS OFFED BY, UH, AT LEAST A HUNDRED YARDS OF BRUSH THAT IS INVISIBLE TO THEM.
SO I ASSUME MR. AND MRS. BON, I, I THINK THEY HAVE A LEGITIMATE REQUEST AND THAT THE BOARD OUGHT TO CONSIDER IT.
THAT'S WHY I GAVE YOU THIS MEMO.
UH, AND, UH, I THINK NICOLE OR JOSEPH, UH, SENT IN A MEMO AS WELL.
WHEN IT COMES TIME FOR THE REGULAR MEETING, MRS. MRS. OR MR. BONSER WANTED TO BE ABLE TO PUNCH IN SO THAT THEY COULD, UH, BE HEARD ON THE QUESTION.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS KNOW ABOUT IT OR WHAT YOU THINK IF, IF I MAY, SUPERVISOR, UH, THIS WAS ANOTHER ONE I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT.
SO AFTER I GOT OUTTA WORK ON SATURDAY, I WENT UP THERE AND, UH, MET WITH THE, UH, HOMEOWNERS AND WENT BACK THERE GOOD.
AND TALKED WITH HER AND WHAT SHE WAS PLANNING WANTED TO DO, AND THERE'S A, A SHED IN THE BACKYARD, AND I THOUGHT, IS THAT SHED, YOU KNOW, PERMITTED, YOU KNOW, WAS THAT PUT UP, RIGHT? I SAID, IF YOU TAKE THAT DOWN, YOU COULD PUT THIS GARAGE BACK THERE, AND YOU'RE NOT GOING ON YOUR EASEMENT.
AND YOU JUST HAVE, WE HAVE TO FIND OUT HOW FAR YOU WOULD HAVE TO STAY AWAY.
LIKE IF YOU'RE LOOKING IN THE BACKYARD TO THE LEFT SIDE, HOW FAR AWAY YOU'D HAVE TO STAY FROM THAT PROPERTY LINE.
SO I SAID, OH BOY, I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE A RESOLUTION HERE.
THEN I CALLED ROGER TODAY AND I SAID, ROGER WAS THAT, UH, SHED PUT UP, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH A PERMIT, YOU KNOW, IS THAT ON THEIR PROPERTY OR, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT'S ONE THING WE COULDN'T DETERMINE WE'RE OUT THERE, IS WHERE DID THE PROPERTY END AND THE EASEMENT BEGIN? AND ROGER LOOKED IT UP TO, WE COULD HAVE ROGER COME IN AND, AND, AND SPEAK TO THIS, BUT THERE WAS NEVER A PERMIT PULLED OR A SHED BACK THERE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS PROPERTY OR THAT'S THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT.
SO BASICALLY GETTING DOWN TO IT, UM, ROGERS, HE BELIEVES THAT THE, THE, THE RESIDENTS HAVE TO COME IN, UH, ABOUT THAT SHED.
BUT IF WE CAN DETERMINE WHERE THEIR PROPERTY LINE IS THERE, UH, AND AFTER DISCUSSING IT WITH MS. BONAR, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO PUT IT IN THERE GOING INTO THE
SO THAT'S, I I GOT A SUGGESTION THEN MAYBE, UH, BECAUSE IT, IT SEEMED TO ME THAT THE INITIALLY, UH, IT WAS TURNED ON JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE THERE WAS A CONSERVATION EASEMENT, UH, AND LOOKED AT THE, THE SURVEY THAT THEY HAD, AND IT APPEARED THAT WHERE THEY WISH TO PUT THIS STORAGE FACILITY IMPACTED THE, THAT EASEMENT.
MAYBE WHAT WE MIGHT WANT TO DO, UH, I DON'T WANNA, UH, MAKE MR. AND MRS. BON'S LIFE MORE DIFFICULT THAN IT OTHERWISE MIGHT BE.
BUT MAYBE WHAT DO WANNA DO IS TABLE THIS AND REFER IT BACK TO PLANNING AND TO ROGER SO THAT WE CAN CONSIDER SOME OPTIONS THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS
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AND STILL, UH, UPHOLD THE INTEGRITY OF THE EASEMENT.UM, I, WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE THE PROPERTY LINE IS.
AND I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, IF THAT WAS, UH, IF THAT SHED WAS PERMITTED, THEN THAT'S THE PROPERTY AND THEY HAVE ROOM TO BUILD IT.
SO YEAH, WE NEED, WE NEED A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION.
I'M IN, I'M IN FAVOR OF HANDLING IT.
SUPERVISOR, COULD I SAY SOMETHING? OF COURSE.
UM, NUMBER ONE, THE EASEMENT WAS IN, WAS CREATED IN 2007.
UM, ALSO THE PLANNING BOARD DID TAKE IN TO CONSIDERATION, UH, EVERYTHING THAT NICOLE WAS ARGUING.
THEY, IT WASN'T SIMPLY BECAUSE IT'S AN EASEMENT, BUT THEY, THEY FELT, AND SO DID CAMMIE, AND SO DO I, AND SO DOES DREW THAT IF YOU START GOING DOWN THE SLIPPERY SLOPE, IT'S GONNA GET IT, IT COULD BE DANGEROUS.
'CAUSE I GET CALLS A LOT FROM PEOPLE WHO LIVE NEAR CONSERVATION EASEMENTS, AND THEY SAY, HOW SURE ARE YOU THAT THIS LAND REALLY WILL NOT BE BUILT ON? AND I DON'T WANNA HAVE TO SAY, WELL, IT DEPENDS.
WELL, LET ME, LET ME JUST ADDRESS THAT FOR A MINUTE.
UH, THAT YOU MAY BE A HUNDRED PERCENT CORRECT, SARAH, THAT THE PLANNING BOARD CONSIDERED IT, AND THAT, UH, THAT, UH, CAMMY JARRELL, UH, CONSIDERED IT ALONG WITH YOU.
BUT CAMMY'S, UH, STATEMENT WAS SIMPLY, UH, UH, A ONE SENTENCE DECLARATION.
AND THE PLANNING BOARD'S WRITTEN DETERMINATION WAS, UH, DENIED BASED UPON THE RECOMMENDATION OF ENGINEERING.
BUT, UH, EASEMENTS, CONSERVATION EASEMENTS ARE A LITTLE BIT LIKE ZONING.
UH, YOU MIGHT GRANT A VARIANCE IN ONE CIRCUMSTANCE BECAUSE EACH CASE IS UNIQUE.
THAT DOESN'T SET A PRECEDENT FOR, UH, THE FUTURE.
UH, BECAUSE WITH REGARD TO AMENDING EASEMENTS, IT'S, UH, ANALOGOUS TO REQUESTING A VARIANCE.
EACH PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCE IS UNIQUE.
IF IT'S GRANTED IN ONE CASE, DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE EQUITIES WOULD REQUIRE A, A, UH, AN AFFIRMATIVE RESPONSE IN AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT CASE.
BUT ANYWAY, I, I DO AGREE WITH YOU, JIM.
I, I JUST, UM, AND I KNOW ABOUT SETTING PRECEDENT, BUT, UM, LIKE I SAID, IT, IT WOULD BE HARD FOR ME TO ANSWER A QUESTION MOVING FORWARD ABOUT WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH THIS EASEMENT BEHIND MY HOUSE IF I KNOW THAT EACH SITUATION IS GONNA BE LOOKED AT DIFFERENTLY.
UM, SO HAVING SAID ALL OF THAT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I THINK THAT'S THE END OF THE, UH, UH, THE AGENDA, RIGHT? UH, AND, UH, MR. AND MRS. BONAR, IF, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE WITH US NOW, UH, RATHER THAN MAKE YOU WAIT, UH, IF YOU CAN PLUG IN, UH, WILL, WILL ENTERTAIN YOU RIGHT NOW, BUT, UH, I THINK THE SENSE OF THE BOARD WITHOUT TAKING A VOTE IS TO SEND IT BACK FOR SOME FURTHER STUDY.
SO I, I WOULD'VE HIM GO SEE ROGER AND, AND START THE PROCESS.
YEAH, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA BE DOING ANY CONSTRUCTION IN, UH, FEBRUARY.
SEE, NO, WE WERE SLIDING THAT HILL THAT NO, THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING RIGHT.
MR. UH, MRS. BON, ARE YOU AVAILABLE OR ARE YOU COMING TO SEE US AT THE REGULAR MEETING? HMM, YES, AT THE REGULAR MEETING.
YOU'RE BREAKING UP REALLY BAD.
NICOLE, WE CAN HAVE YOU, I'M LOG, LOG BACK IN.
HOW ARE WE DOING GUYS? IF YOU COULD PART FOR A SECOND.
I HAVE TO GET SOPHIE OUT THE DOOR.
SHE'S GOTTA GO TRIAL FOR BASKETBALL.
SOPHIE, NICOLE, ARE YOU WITH US? WELL, I HOPE YOU CAN HEAR ME IF YOU, BECAUSE I JUST SIMPLY WANNA SAY TO YOU THAT WE'LL TAKE IT UP AT THE REGULAR MEETING
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AND IT, THE SENSE OF THE BOARD WITHOUT TAKING A VOTE IS IT MIGHT BE WISE TO GO BACK AND WORK WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND WITH, UH, ROGER GIBSON, OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.I DON'T WANNA MAKE LIFE DIFFICULT FOR YOU, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU BE ABLE TO DO WHAT YOU WANNA DO.
ALRIGHT, FOLKS, WE'VE GOT ABOUT, UH, I DON'T KNOW, 10 MINUTES, 12 MINUTES TO GO.
SO, ANYTHING ELSE ANYBODY WANNA TALK ABOUT? I, IF I COULD BRING SOMETHING UP, I'M BACK.
UM, SO WITH THE, UH, AS FAR AS THE OLD POLICE STATION, AND I THINK THIS IS MORE TO BETH, UM, NOW THAT THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE HAS, YOU KNOW, DECIDED I WANNA BE PART OF IT, UM, IT MAYBE HAVE, UH, IT TALK TO IT ABOUT MAYBE GOING BACK THERE.
UM, I THINK JEN MIGHT BE, UH, MIGHT BE IN FAVOR OF THAT.
I THINK THAT'S, BACK WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS, THAT WAS ONE POSSIBILITY THAT WAS DISCUSSED.
SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA, PROBABLY NOW TO CIRCLE BACK AND TALK TO EVERYONE AND GET A SENSE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE STAND ON THAT PROJECT.
BUT THAT, THAT RFP DID NOT GO OUT, DID IT FOR THE DESIGN? I DON'T THINK IT DID.
BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE SOME OF THESE DISCUSSIONS PROBABLY BEFORE THAT HAPPENS.
UM, BETH, THIS IS CAMIE THAT RFP IS OUT.
OH, THE ONE FOR THE DESIGN FOR THE DISPATCH.
OLD DISPATCH AREA OR YES, FOR THE, THE DESIGN FOR DESIGN FIRMS FOR THE FORMER POLICE AREA RENOVATED INTO OFFICES HAS GONE OUT TO FIRMS WITH, UH, A RETURN DATE OF FRIDAY THE 19TH.
AND I BELIEVE NEXT WEEK, BETH, I BELIEVE IT'S NEXT THURSDAY AT 3:00 PM IS A WALKTHROUGH.
AM I CORRECT THERE? TAMMY? AMI, YOU ARE CORRECT.
SO, UH, DID, WERE YOU GONNA GO OR DID YOU WANT ME TO, UH, ATTEND? I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
THAT WAS, WE HAD A WALKTHROUGH JUST SO THAT THE, UM, UH, THE COMPANY'S THROUGH CAN SEE WHAT WERE GOING ON.
UH, BUT WE COULD, UM, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF CALLING IT HAMBURG CHAMBER OR COMMERCE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TELL 'EM THIS IS GONNA BE IT.
WE COULD, WE COULD DO THAT, I BELIEVE.
I THINK THAT'S A, AN EASY FIX BECAUSE IT IS, UM, OFFICE SPACE VERSUS OFFICE SPACE.
I THINK ONCE YOU SEE THE QUALIFICATIONS OF THE FIRMS AND WHAT THEIR RATES ARE AND SO ON, YOU COULD, UM, NEGOTIATE SORT OF A MODIFICATION OF WHAT YOU WANNA SEE.
SO WHEN IS THIS IT? NEXT THURSDAY AT 3:00 PM IS THAT THE 11TH? YES, I BELIEVE.
CAN IT BE LATER? ALREADY OUT? IT'S ALREADY OUT.
WE PUT IT OUT AT 3:00 PM UM, LIKE I SAID, UH, YOU WANT ME TO, TO GO DOWN THERE? OR IF YOU CAN GET THERE, UH, LET ME KNOW EITHER WAY.
UM, AT THIS, I COULD MOVE IT WITH THE, UH, I'D HAVE TO SEND A NOTICE TO THE FIRMS THAT RECEIVED THE RFP CHANGING THAT TIME, BUT BEING THAT IT'S OVER A WEEK AWAY, I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE WITH THAT.
SO BETH, THEN IF YOU GO, IF YOU WANNA CHANGE THE TIME, UM, THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT, BECAUSE I FEEL ALSO LIKE WE STILL HAVE CONVERSATION, LIKE WE IS IS THIS THEM AGAIN? EXCUSE ME.
'CAUSE IT'S, I'M KIND OF JUST JUMPING IN HERE NOW.
AFTER, I GUESS THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION, SO IT'S TRYING TO PICK THE BALL UP PARTWAY THROUGH THE GAME.
UM, WE COULD STILL MAKE CHANGES.
'CAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING, WE DON'T REALLY EVEN KNOW WHO'S GOING TO GO BACK THERE YET.
SO THIS IS FOR THEM TO THROW OUT SOME IDEAS.
I, I GUESS I'M, I'M CONFUSED BY THINKING THAT THEY'RE GONNA GIVE US A DEFINITIVE PLAN BECAUSE WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A DEFINITIVE IDEA OF WHAT'S GOING BACK THERE YET.
THEY'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT GENERAL OFFICE SPACE AND CONFERENCE AREAS.
I DON'T KNOW THAT, UH, CAMMIE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA LAY OUT SPECIFIC DIMENSIONS ON OFFICES, ARE THEY? NO, NOT UNTIL, WHAT WE CAN DO IS THEY'LL, THEY'LL PROPOSE, THEY'LL SHOW YOUR, THEIR EXPERIENCE, THEIR QUALIFICATIONS, THEIR TEAM, YOU KNOW, THAT SORT OF DETAIL.
SO YOU CAN COMPARE THE DIFFERENT FIRMS. SO THIS WAS IN REP Q, NOT AN RFP? WELL, IT WAS RFP.
WE DID WANT THEM TO, UH, PUT A PRICE ON IT.
SO TYPICALLY THEY WOULD INCLUDE WITH THAT
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THEIR RATES AS WELL, SO THAT WE CAN NEGOTIATE SOMETHING BEFORE WE ACTUALLY SIGN ANY KIND OF CONTRACT WITH THEM.AND THIS CAN BE, EVEN THOUGH THEY GET BACK TO US, THIS CAN BE DOWN THE ROAD, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WE, THEIR LIFE.
THEY'RE ON THEIR MEETING STARTED.
YES, WE CAN, WE CAN DO THIS DOWN THE ROAD.
THIS GIVES US A STARTING POINT TO SEE WHAT KIND OF FIRMS WE'D LIKE TO WORK WITH.
SO WHAT TIME IS SHE CHANGING IT TO GOOD.
WHAT TIME? WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO FOUR O'CLOCK INSTEAD OF THREE, THEN WE DO FOUR O'CLOCK.
I CAN BE THERE, THEN I CAN DO FOUR O'CLOCK.
YEAH, I'LL HAVE JANE SENT OUT, UH, A CHANGE TOMORROW.
UM, IF, IF FOUR O'CLOCK STANDS.
AND I APOLOGIZE, I, THAT WAS JUST THE FIRST I WAS HEARING OF IT WAS JUST NOW.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO WALK THROUGH PARTS, SO, OKAY.
ANYTHING ELSE, LADIES AND GENTS BEFORE WE GET INTO THE REGULAR MEETING? OKAY.
WE'VE GOT A FEW MINUTES SO WE CAN JUST, UH, TAKE CARE AND RELAX FOR A SECOND AND, UH, THEN WE'LL GET STARTED.
SO, UH, SEAN, HOW, HOW'S YOUR WHOLE FAMILY MAKING OUT WITH EVERYTHING? YOU DOING OKAY? UH, THANK YOU.
IT WAS A TOUGH, TOUGHER WEEK, BUT YEAH, WE'RE ALL GOOD.
THAT'S ALL, HUH? YEAH, JUST GONNA TAKE TIME BY THE END OF THE WEEK THOUGH.
WE SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, OUT OF OUR, UM, KIND OF, UH, LOW STATUS QUARANTINE STATUS AND, AND BACK TO NORMAL.
AND GOOD LUCK TO SOPHIE TONIGHT.
YEAH, THEY ASKED HER TO TRY OUT FOR, UH, JV INSTEAD OF MODIFIED.
SO SHE, THIS MORNING, THE, UH, PHYSICAL UP AT THE HIGH SCHOOL AND, UH, SHE PASSED IT.
SO THAT MEANS SHE GETS TO, UH, PRACTICE TONIGHT TO SEE IF SHE CAN MAKE THE TEAM.
SHE'S TALENTED IN EVERYTHING SHE DOES.
I SHE NEVER PLAYED BASKETBALL BEFORE LAST YEAR.
WHAT GRADE IS SHE? UH, SHE'S EIGHTH GRADE.
THAT'S IMPRESSIVE THAT THEY'RE ASKING HER IN EIGHTH GRADE FOR JV.
LET, LEMME INTERRUPT YOU GUYS FOR JUST A SECOND.
UH, DURING THE, AT THE END OF THE MEETING, UH, I MENTIONED TO YOU IN A MEMO ON FRIDAY THAT WE WOULD HEAR FROM OUR FRIEND SEAN DOYLE, THE IDA EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR RELATIVE TO THE AMAZON PROJECT.
UH, SEAN, ARE YOU WITH US ON THE LINE NOW? ARE YOU TUNED IN TO US? SEAN DOYLE? I, I AM.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? SUPERVISOR AND FORD, SEAN.
WE'RE GONNA CONVENE THE REGULAR MEETING.
AND MAYBE WHAT I MIGHT DO IS A CONVENIENCE TO YOU AND TO PEOPLE WHO MAY BE, UH, UH, TUNING IN ON OUR FACEBOOK PAGE IS ALLOW YOU TO MAKE YOUR PRESENTATION AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO THE AGENDA SO THAT WE DON'T KEEP YOU HANGING AROUND, UH, FOR THE ENTIRE MEETING.
ARE YOU WITH US ON THAT, SEAN? OKAY.
YEAH, I'M UP FOR EITHER, SO YOU LET ME KNOW WHAT WORKS OUT.
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ALMOST SEVEN RIGHT? KIDS? YEAH.OKAY, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I HAVE, UH, HAVE IT AT SEVEN BELLS.
SO WITH YOUR, UH, PERMISSION, I SHALL CALL THE, UH, REGULAR MEETING OF THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD FOR FEBRUARY THE FIRST 2021 TO ORDER.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? SECOND.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WILL, UH, ENTERTAIN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
UM, ARE THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE HAMBURG INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, UH, AGENCY IS WITH US.
UH, AND WITH YOUR PERMISSION, WE'LL TAKE HIM OUT OF ORDER SO THAT HE CAN GIVE US A FIVE, 10 MINUTE PRESENTATION ON THE STATUS OF THE APPLICATION BY, UH, AMAZON RELATIVE TO, UH, THE LAKE AIR COMMERCE PARK ON WEEK FIVE AND BAYVIEW.
SEAN, WHY DON'T YOU GO FORWARD THERE, MY FRIEND.
THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR AND, AND THANK YOU TO THE TOWN BOARD.
I, UH, JUST WANTED TO TAKE A COUPLE MINUTES, UH, TO REVIEW THE PROJECT.
I'M NOT LOOKING TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, AT THIS TIME.
UH, THERE IS A SECOND ONE SCHEDULED, WHICH I WILL TALK TO, BUT IT'S JUST FOR THE TOWN BOARD TO CLARIFY A, A FEW KEY POINTS.
UM, THERE'S BEEN SOME DIFFERENT NUMBERS TOSSED AROUND IN TERMS OF THE AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT AND THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT AND THE JOB CREATION.
SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY FOR YOU, UM, WHAT IS INVOLVED HERE.
AND THEN CERTAINLY, UH, PROVIDE AVENUES FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, SOME CLARIFICATION AS TO THAT AND TO, UH, REALLY JUST CONVEY, UH, OPPORTUNITIES FOR INFORMATION EXCHANGE AS IT RESULTS, UH, AROUND THIS PROJECT.
SO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT, WHICH IS BAYVIEW ROAD ASSOCIATES.
IT'S A REAL ESTATE HOLDING COMPANY, UH, LARGELY OWNED BY, UH, MEMBERS, PRINCIPALS OF WALDEN DEVELOPMENT GROUP, WHICH IS A LOCAL DEVELOPMENT COMPANY.
THEIR CO-APPLICANT IS AMAZON.COM SERVICES.
SO ESSENTIALLY THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT IS A, A BUILD TO SUIT WAREHOUSE FOR, UH, THIS TENANT.
UH, THE LEASE IS NOT SIGNED YET, UM, AS THIS IS ANOTHER STEP IN THE PROCESS.
SO AS THIS IS A STEP IN THE PROCESS, WHAT THAT MEANS IS THEY'VE APPROACHED THE IDA FOR BENEFITS, UH, WHICH WILL, I'LL, I'LL EXPLAIN IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL, UH, FINANCIAL INCENTIVES IN THE FORM OF, UH, TAX ABATEMENT, UH, PROPERTY TAX ABATEMENT.
A, YOU'RE, UH, UH, NOT COMING THROUGH SEAN.
HIS, UH, HIS, UH, FACE IS THERE, BUT WE CAN'T HEAR HIM.
YEAH, WHAT? CAN WE DO ANYTHING? WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING.
NO, HE JUST, MAYBE JUST HAVE HIM SEND THE EMAIL TO THE, THE MEMBERS.
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UH, YEAH, I DON'T THINK MY FRIEND, UH, MR. DOYLE KNOWS THAT HE'S NOT GETTING THROUGH TO US.UM, LET'S JUST BEAR WITH IT FOR A MINUTE OR TWO LONGER.
I JUST SENT HIM A TEXT OR A CHAT.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING HE CAN DO ABOUT IT.
HE'S TALKING WITH JENNIFER, I THINK.
ALL OH, JENNY, JENNY ROBERTSON THERE.
SEAN WAS WONDERING IF THERE'S A DIAL IN NUMBER HE COULD CALL.
SO CAN YOU, ARE YOU ABLE TO TEXT HIM THE DIAL IN NUMBER? YEAH, I CAN SEND THAT TO HIM RIGHT NOW.
WE MAY BE PUTTING HIM AT THE END OF THE MEETING AFTER ALL.
ALRIGHT, I JUST SENT SEAN THE INFORMATION.
YES, SEAN, HOW ARE YOU? I'M SORRY.
UH, WE, WE LOST YOUR PRESENTATION.
UM, DO YOU, DID I CUT OFF AT A CERTAIN POINT OR DID YOU NOT CATCH ANYTHING? WELL, YOU'RE GETTING, YOU WERE GETTING INTO THE MEAT AND POTATOES OF IT.
UH, UH, SO YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT, UH, BAYVIEW ROAD ASSOCIATES, UH, UH, AT AMAZON WERE IN LEASE NEGOTIATIONS.
THIS WAS ONE STEP YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT SALES TAX.
SO PICK IT UP FROM THERE IF YOU CAN.
I'M, UH, TRYING TO DO THE, I'M HAVING SOME, SOME BANDWIDTH ISSUES.
SO THE, UH, THE 180,000 ROUGHLY SQUARE FOOT STRUCTURE WILL HAVE 13,000 FEET OF OFFICE, 167,000 ROUGHLY, UH, FEET OF, OF WAREHOUSE.
UM, WITH THE FINANCIAL INCENTIVE, THE PROJECT WILL CREATE FIVE MANAGEMENT POSITIONS.
SO THESE ARE, UH, AS AN, AS AN APPLICANT COMPLETES AN IDA APPLICATION, THEY AGREE TO, UH, CERTAIN BENCHMARKS, METRICS, UH, THAT WE THEN TRACK THROUGH THE LIFE OF THE PILOT TERM, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE MAINTAINING THEIR OBLIGATION.
AS IN TURN, THE TAXING JURISDICTIONS WOULD THEN MAINTAIN THE, UH, THE FINANCIAL INCENTIVE.
SO THERE ARE FIVE MANAGEMENT POSITIONS, UH, WITH WAGES FROM 60 TO 80,000 ASSOCIATED FRINGE.
BEYOND THAT, FROM THE, THE 12,000 TO $18,000, UH, RATE, UH, THERE ARE 45 FULL-TIME POSITIONS.
AND THOSE RANGE, OR THOSE WAGES START AT $15 AN HOUR WITH FRINGE FROM $3 TO $4 AND 50 CENTS AN HOUR.
ANOTHER 50 PART-TIME PRODUCTION POSITIONS FROM, WITH WAGES STARTING AT 50, $15 AN HOUR, AND AGAIN, WITH WAGES, UH, FRINGE WAGES
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AT $3 TO $4 AND 50 CENTS HOURLY.UH, THE ES ESTIMATED ANNUAL SALARY OF THESE POSITIONS IS $31,000.
UH, SO THAT IS ESSENTIALLY THE JOB CREATION WITHIN THE WAREHOUSE.
UH, BEYOND THAT, UH, FREIGHT IN, FREIGHT OUT, UH, THOSE ARE THIRD PARTY CONTRACTED EMPLOYEES.
SO THEY ARE NOT ESSENTIALLY PART OF THE PROJECT AS, UH, AS THEY'RE NOT OPERATING UNDER THIS ROOF.
SO I THINK THERE WAS, UH, IN PAST PROJECTS FOR FEDEX, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, UH, ASSOCIATES, THIRD PARTY ASSOCIATES MAY HAVE BEEN ATTRIBUTED TO THE PROJECT, BUT THEY ARE NOT IN THIS CAPACITY.
SO THERE IS ESTIMATED ADDITIONAL EMPLOYMENT, BUT, UH, THOSE ARE NOT BEING HELD TO, UH, IN THE STANDARD OF THE APPLICATION AS IT WAS PRESENTED.
SO WITH THE INCENTIVES, UM, THIS IS A, UH, THE, THE A PARCEL OF LAND AT BAYVIEW AND LAKESHORE ROAD, UH, THAT IS UNDEVELOPED.
AND, UH, IT WOULD BE AT, AT A POINT IT WAS OWNED BY THE HAMBURG, NEW YORK LAND DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.
UM, AND THE, THAT WAS A NOT-FOR-PROFIT THAT DID NOT PAY TAXES.
UM, AT THIS POINT, IT'S OWNED BY, UH, BAYVIEW ROAD ASSOCIATES, AND IT WOULD GENERATE INCOME TO THE TOWN ON THE RAW LAND.
UM, I THINK I GOT CUT OFF AS I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE LAND.
SO IN ADDITION TO THE, UH, THE RAW LAND, THERE IS AN, UH, IMPROVEMENT OF $47.2 MILLION TOTAL.
SO THAT INCLUDES WHAT'S KNOWN AS, UH, THERE'S AN ACQUISITION COST FOR THE LAND.
UM, THERE IS HARD CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS ESTIMATED AT $38 MILLION, AND THEN TENANT BUILD OUT, AND THAT IS $5 MILLION.
SO THAT ACCOUNTS FOR, UH, 40, UH, $3 MILLION.
AND THEN THE REMAINING, UH, $4.5 MILLION ARE ATTRIBUTED TO THE LAND ACQUISITION, UH, SOFT COSTS AND OTHER COSTS, WHICH WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY LIKE FINANCING COSTS INTEREST, UH, ON, UH, THE CONSTRUCTION LOAN.
UM, THAT WOULD LARGELY BOIL INTO THAT.
SO THAT'S THE AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT THAT WOULD GO INTO THIS PARCEL.
UH, AND THEN IT WOULD PRODUCE AN ESTIMATED, UH, TAXABLE VALUE, UH, TO THE TOWN OF, OF $5.6 MILLION IN ADDITION TO THE LAND, UM, AS A RESULT OF, YOU KNOW, THE FINAL COMPLETION.
UM, BUT, UH, THE DATA, YOU KNOW, AT THIS POINT, UH, THE PROJECT HAS, YOU KNOW, HAS FULL DESIGN DRAWING SUBMITTED.
SO I WAS ABLE TO WORK THROUGH, UM, THE PLANNING PROCESS AND PROVIDE ELEVATION.
SO, UH, WE HAVE A, A FAIRLY GOOD SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT.
SO WITH THE FINANCIAL INCENTIVE, UH, THERE WOULD BE A 10 YEAR PILOT.
SO THIS IS A, A PAYMENT IN LIEU OF TAXES.
IT'S A ABATEMENT, UH, PACKAGE THAT WOULD BE PRESENTED TO THE BOARD.
UM, IF THE PROJECT WOULD ENSUE THE FIRST YEAR TAXES FROM ALL THE TAXING JURISDICTIONS, THE TOWN, THE COUNTY, AND THE SCHOOL, UH, WOULD BE $28,558, UH, OUT OF THE FIRST YEAR.
UM, WHAT I DID IN PARTICULAR FOR THE TOWN BOARD WAS TO REALLY BOIL THIS TO A, UH, A, A COUPLE NUMBERS TO A TOWN LEVEL.
SO YOU HAVE SOME, UH, SOLID INFORMATION FROM THE TOWN PERSPECTIVE.
SO OVER THIS 10 YEAR ABATEMENT PERIOD, UH, THE TOWN WOULD RECEIVE, UH, $61,999 AND 90 CENTS.
THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY SPECIAL DISTRICT TAXES.
UH, THOSE TYPES OF USER FEES, UH, BECAUSE THOSE ARE NOT ABATED IN A PILOT.
SO THAT WOULD AMOUNT FOR, UH, I'M SORRY, THAT'S, UH, THAT WOULD AMOUNT FOR A TOTAL OVER THE 10 YEAR PILOT OF 619,000.
$61,999 WOULD BE PAID IF THERE WOULD BE NO ABATEMENT.
UH, THAT TOTAL WOULD BE MULTIPLIED BY 10.
SO ESSENTIALLY THE, THE ABATEMENT AMOUNTS TO $489,779.
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OKAY.SO THE TOWN IS, IS FOREGOING THAT AMOUNT.
UH, BUT THEY ARE ALSO GETTING, UH, AN ADDITIONAL, UH, $16,000 A YEAR ON A PARCEL THAT THEY WERE NOT GETTING.
UH, THE TAXING JURISDICTIONS AS A WHOLE FOR THE TOWN, COUNTY, AND SCHOOL ARE ALSO RECEIVING AN AMOUNT OF $28,558.
AND THEN THE SPECIAL DISTRICTS ON THIS PARCEL WOULD BE, UH, $72,477 A YEAR.
SO ESSENTIALLY, WITH THE PILOT STRUCTURE, ALLOWING THIS PROJECT TO HAPPEN, UH, THE TOWN WOULD BE, UH, MOVING FORWARD, THE TOWN AND THE TAXING JURISDICTIONS IN THE AMOUNT OF ABOUT $101,000 A YEAR.
OF WHICH YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT REALIZING ANY VALUE, UH, FROM THIS PARCEL AND TODAY AND LIMITED BASED ON THE, THE RAW LAND, UH, AT THIS TIME.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS TO THAT END? I HOPE I'M COMING THROUGH.
UH, SEAN, LET ME ASK YOU THIS.
YOU MENTIONED, UH, UH, ASSESSED VALUATION OF 5.6 MILLION.
THAT'S THE ASSESSED VALUE OF THE IMPROVEMENT ON THE LAND.
THE LAND WAS SOLD FROM THE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION TO THE DEVELOPER FOR 1,150,000.
IS THAT RIGHT? WHO THAT IS? CORRECT.
UM, WHAT WOULD THE AGGREGATE ASSESSED VALUE BE? LAND AND BUILDING DONE, OR DON'T, YOU KNOW, I, THE, THE LAND, THE, I DON'T KNOW, THE ASSESSED VALUE OF THE LAND, THE ASSESSED VALUE OF THE BUILDING.
SO THAT'S THE VALUE AFTER EQUALIZATION.
SO, UM, WITH THIS PROJECT, WE DID HAVE A, A PUBLIC HEARING, UM, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENT AND CONCERN JUST IN REGARDS TO THE SCHEDULING OF THAT HEARING.
UH, SO WE DO HAVE A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH WILL BE HELD IN TOWN HALL AND ALSO VIA ZOOM.
UM, SO PEOPLE WHO CHOOSE TO COME CAN COME, IF THEY'RE SAFE, NOT COMING OR PREFERRED TO NOT COME 'CAUSE OF PANDEMIC CONCERNS.
UH, THEY CAN CERTAINLY ATTEND VIRTUALLY THE PUBLIC HEARING INFORMATION, UH, WAS POSTED IN FRIDAYS EDITION OF THE HAMBURG SUN.
IT IS ALSO AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE, WHICH IS HAMBURG IDA.COM.
AND IF ONE GOES TO, UH, ABOUT US AND THEN PROJECTS, YOU'LL FIND THE FULL APPLICATION, YOU'LL FIND THE PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE, AND YOU'LL ALSO FIND MINUTES FROM THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.
BEYOND THAT, THERE'S A LINK TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL AND, UH, IF, IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO SO, YOU CAN WATCH THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING, UM, AND, UH, GET SOME INFORMATION VIA THAT WAY.
UH, BUT WE DO, UH, INVITE AND ENCOURAGE EVERYONE THAT HAS QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, INPUT, UH, OR JUST INTEREST IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE PROJECT TO, UH, TO ATTEND THAT SESSION OR SUBMIT AN EMAIL IN ADVANCE OF THAT.
ANY QUESTIONS? ANYBODY? ALRIGHT, EVERYONE FOR, UH, SHARING WITH MY TECHNICAL ISSUES? ANY QUESTIONS? ANYONE COMMENTS? OKAY, JIM, I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION FOR SEAN.
SEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, YOU KNOW THIS OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD OR YOU COULD POSSIBLY PREPARE IT FOR THE NEXT, UM, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC SESSION, BUT THAT COR, THAT ROUTE FIVE CORRIDOR SEEMS TO HAVE GAINED A LOT OF TRACTION IN TERMS OF, UH, WAREHOUSES AND STORAGE FACILITIES WITH OUR PROXIMITY, UH, TO CANADA, THE THROUGHWAY, UM, YOU KNOW, MANUFACTURING IN WESTERN NEW YORK.
I'M CURIOUS, ARE YOU AWARE OF, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED OVER THE LAST DECADE ON THAT CORRIDOR? WHAT PERCENTAGE ARE GETTING, YOU KNOW, TAX ABATEMENT, HOW COMMON THIS IS? UM, OR HOW UNIQUE THIS IS ANY SENSE NOW? OR IS THAT SOMETHING YOU COULD JUST, YOU KNOW, GET BACK TO US ON? UM, MY SENSE NOW IS THAT ANY OF THESE PROJECTS, UH, IN, IN THIS SCOPE OR IN SIMILAR SCOPE, UH, FOR INSTANCE, THERE
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WAS A SUGAR REFINERY, UH, THAT, UH, WAS JUST ANNOUNCED, I BELIEVE LAST THURSDAY GOING IN ON DONNA STREET.UM, SO THAT PROJECT, THE FEDEX PROJECT, UM, IN HAMBURG, THE, UH, TMP TECHNOLOGIES, WHICH IS ANOTHER, UH, NEW, UH, WAREHOUSE MANUFACTURING FACILITY ON DONNA STREET, UH, THEY, THEY HAVE ALL RECEIVED TAX ABATEMENTS.
UM, A CONCERN FOR THE HAMBURG IDA BOARD IS CERTAINLY THE AMOUNT OF DOLLARS THAT THE TAXING JURISDICTIONS ARE FOREGOING.
SO FOR INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A BOARD MEMBER THAT IS, UH, A BOARD MEMBER ON THE FRONTIER SCHOOL BOARD, SO THIS DIRECTLY IMPACTS THEM.
UM, WE ARE LOOKING AT BENCHMARKS, AND WE WILL TALK TO THIS IN THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT BENCHMARKS IN TERMS OF THE AMOUNT OF ABATEMENT BEING PROVIDED AS COMPARED TO THE OVERALL COST OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
SO FOR INSTANCE, UM, AND, AND FORGIVE ME, THE NAME ESCAPES ME, BUT FOR THE, UH, SUGAR REFINERY PROJECT THAT WAS APPROVED, UH, BY THE E-C-I-D-A, UH, LAST WEEK, THAT ABATEMENT PERCENTAGE, SO THE, ESSENTIALLY THE DISCOUNT OF THE OVERALL PROJECT TO THE AMOUNT OF THE PILOT, UH, WAS 17%.
AS YOU LOOK AT THIS PROJECT, UM, WITH THE $47.2 MILLION, WE'RE FACTORING IN 6.6 0.8 AS A HIGH END OF A NOT TO EXCEED, YOU'RE LOOKING AT AN ABATEMENT RATIO OF 9%, UM MM-HMM
SO, YOU KNOW, AS THE ABATEMENT WOULD BE EXTENDED, THE THE DISCOUNT IS ALSO EXTENDED AND THUS THE, UH, THAT PERCENTAGE WOULD BE HIGHER.
UM, AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF FACTORS, BUT CERTAINLY THE, UM, THE WAGES WILL WEIGH IN AND IMPACT THIS, THIS PROJECT, UH, AS TO WHERE, YOU KNOW, IF A PROJECT PAID, YOU KNOW, IF THE AVERAGE WAGES WERE $40,000 A YEAR, IT MAY BOOST THAT INCENTIVE WORKSHEET, WHICH IS WHAT WE USE TO BENCHMARK PROJECTS, AND THAT COULD ESCALATE IT TO A 15 YEAR INCENTIVE.
SO WE WEIGH IN A NUMBER OF FACTORS.
UM, SO IT'S NOT JUST AN ARBITRARY, UM, ASSESSMENT, UM, FROM THE IDA AS TO WHAT, WHAT THE DISCOUNT SHOULD BE, DOES THAT HELP? BUT CERTAINLY THERE'S, UH, THE PROJECTS ARE ELIGIBLE, UM, IN THIS ARENA AND, AND, UH, I GUESS IT WOULD, I'D HAVE TO LOOK IN TO SEE IF ANY PROJECT DID NOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE, OF THE INCENTIVE, BECAUSE LARGELY THEY DO.
SEAN, I JUST, IT SEEMS LIKE AT THE VACANCY RATE OF ABOUT 2.3%, AT LEAST WHAT I HAD READ, IT SEEMS LIKE THE COMPETITIVE NATURE MIGHT START TO BE INCREASING TO SOME LEVEL.
UM, SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU FELT ON THAT.
THE LAST QUESTION I'D HAVE IS FOR AMAZON, UM, DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF THEIR TRACK RECORD OF WHEN THEY'D CO COME TO A FACILITY OR, UH, A TOWN, A MUNICIPALITY, THEY RECEIVE A BREAK, WHAT THEIR TRACK RECORD IS OF STAYING IN THAT, YOU KNOW, FACILITY IN THAT, UH, LOCATION? I KNOW WE, WE SAW WITH EVANS BANK, YOU KNOW, LAST, UH, OVER THE LAST YEAR AFTER THEIR TAX INCENTIVE WAS, WAS GONE, THEY WERE GONE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE OF WHAT AMAZON'S, UM, TRACK RECORD IS ON THAT AT THIS POINT? NO.
UM, AS AMAZON IS SUCH A YOUNG COMPANY, UM, AND THEY'RE, THEY'VE, THEY'RE VERY NIMBLE IN TERMS OF HOW THEY OPERATE.
SO UP UNTIL PROBABLY SIX MONTHS AGO, THEY'VE STARTED APPROACHING THE STATE FOR THESE ABATEMENTS.
SO THIS IS A, A NEW AVENUE FOR THEM.
AND LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE ELIGIBLE BY STATE LAW, THEY'RE COMPLETELY ELIGIBLE FOR THE ABATEMENT.
UM, BUT THEY'RE SO NEW THAT WE DO NOT HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF OF THEIR TRACK RECORD.
A COUPLE OF THINGS TO THAT END THOUGH, UH, ONE, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE CERTAINLY A RAPID GROWING AND ROBUST COMPANY.
SO AS WE WEIGH IN AS A MORE SO THE BOARD, AS THE BOARD WEIGHS IN ON A, ON A PROJECT, UM, THERE'S THIS AGREEMENT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A, THERE'S A, A CONTRACT THAT'S ASSOCIATED AND SIMILAR IN FASHION TO THE JOB CREATION.
WE WANNA BE SURE THAT THEY MAINTAIN THEIR OBLIGATIONS AND IF THE COMPANY IS NOT ROBUST,
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UH, THAT MAY POST SOME QUESTIONS AND SOME RISK.ADDITIONALLY, AS THIS PROJECT IS DESIGNED, UM, AMAZON DOES HAVE SOME COMMITMENTS, MORE SO, UM, PUBLICLY AS MAYBE A MARKETING PERSPECTIVE OR JUST SOME INTERNAL INITIATIVE, BUT THEY HAVE A, A LARGE COMMITMENT TO BE, UH, CARBON NEUTRAL IN 2030.
SO AS THIS DEVELOPMENT HAS ENSUED AND THE DOCUMENTS HAVE BEEN PUT FORTH TO THE, UH, BUILDING DEPARTMENT, UH, THIS SITE ALSO HAS 150 ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS AND IT HAS ROOF LOADING CAPACITIES TO SUSTAIN A SOLAR PANEL, A SOLAR ARRAY ON THE ROOF.
SO MY HOPE WOULD BE WITH THESE ESSENTIALLY DEVELOPMENT COSTS THAT THEY'RE OUTLAYING, UH, THAT THEIR INTEREST IS TO BE HERE, UM, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY THEIR OBLIGATION IS TO BE HERE LONGER THAN THE PILOT TERM, BUT BY DESIGN OF THE BUILDING, UH, MY ANTICIPATION AND I WOULD THINK JUST READING BETWEEN THE LINES, THE ANTICIPATION WOULD BE HERE SO THEY FALL IN LINE WITH THOSE, UH, CARBON NEUTRAL COMMITMENTS.
WORST CASE SCENARIO, UH, YOU WOULD END UP WITH A BUILDING LIKE YOU HAD SAID, UH, A VERY MARKETABLE CURRENT WAREHOUSE BUILDING.
UM, THAT WOULD BE 181,000 SQUARE FEET IN A MARKET THAT HAS, UH, VERY LOW VACANCIES.
SO IT'S A, IT WOULD END WORST CASE, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT ALL SIDES OF THESE EQUATIONS.
AND, UH, THE WORST CASE SCENARIO, IF AMAZON WOULD BE NON-EXISTENT FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, UH, THE TOWN WOULD STILL HAVE A, A BUILDING WITH A FAIR AMOUNT OF ASSESSED VALUE AND IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE VERY PLUG AND PLAY FOR ANOTHER WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION USER.
SEAN, CAN I ASK ONE LAST THING AND THEN WE'LL GET ON TO THE REGULAR MEETING UNLESS I PROVOKE SOME OTHER QUESTIONS FROM BOARD MEMBERS.
UH, YOU MENTIONED THAT, UH, THE HOURLY RATE FOR THE FULL-TIME, UH, NON MANAGERIAL PEOPLE AND THE PART-TIMERS IS 15 AN HOUR, WHICH IS 31,200 A YEAR.
BUT YOU MENTIONED FRINGE BENEFITS.
WERE YOU TALKING ABOUT MAJOR MEDICAL AND HOSPITALIZATION COVERAGE? HELLO, I, THAT, THAT CAME THROUGH VERY, VERY CHOPPY.
NO, IT'S, I'M JUST HAVING SOME TECHNICAL ISSUES.
I CAN SAY THAT TO THE PUBLIC HEARING QUESTION.
ARE THE, UM, APPLICANT OR THE CO-APPLICANT, ARE THEY GONNA BE AVAILABLE DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT'S SCHEDULED FOR FEBRUARY TIME? HE MIGHT HAVE CLICKED OFF.
YEAH, WELL WE CAN, KAREN, WE CAN EMAIL, YOU CAN EMAIL HIM AND, UH, HOPEFULLY YOU CAN GET AN ANSWER TO THAT.
I'LL FOLLOW UP ON THE, ON THE FRINGE BENEFIT PACKAGE.
IS THAT OKAY? EVERYBODY? ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY ON BOARD, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WITH YOUR PERMISSION, I'LL HAVE THE CLERK CALL THE ROLE FOR THE REGULAR MEETING
UH, KAREN, YOU'VE GOT THE FIRST ONE.
NUMBER THREE, RESOLVE THAT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD IS HEREBY APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS AS FOLLOWS.
TOWN BOARD WORK SESSION JANUARY 4TH, 2021.
IS MR. PETRI ON THE QUESTION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
UH, WHEREAS DAVE LEWIS HAS BEEN A DEDICATED EMPLOYEE OF THE TOM OF HAMBURG FOR OVER 46 YEARS, AND WHEREAS HE HAS CONSISTENTLY PERFORMED IN MANY CAPACITIES WITHIN OUR BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS DEPARTMENT, THROUGH NUMEROUS LEADERSHIP CHANGES AND WORKFORCE TURNOVER THROUGH IT ALL, HE HAS MAINTAINED A LEVEL OF PRODUCTIVITY SECOND TO NONE.
AND WHEREAS DAVE HAS SERVED OUR COMMUNITY LONGER THAN MANY OF HIS COWORKERS HAVE BEEN ALIVE, YET AGE HASN'T SLOWED HIM DOWN.
HE FUNCTIONS WITH ENERGY AND DETERMINATION WITH MANY YOUNGSTERS ENVY.
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WHEREAS HE HAS BEEN A FRIEND TO FELLOW WORKERS WHO ALL WHO IS ALWAYS ON BOARD TO HELPING HAND HIS GOOD HUMOR AND HIS RESPECT FOR HIS FELLOW WORKERS ARE QUALITIES THAT WE CAN ADMIRE NOW THEREFORE GET RESOLVED.THAT THE OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURGERS EXTENDS ITS BENCHES IN THE HOPE THAT WE COULD BENEFIT FROM DAVE'S FOR 10 YEARS.
YET WE UNDERSTAND HIS DESIRE TO RETIRE AND ENJOY A WELL-EARNED REP FROM THE DAILY GRIND AND FURTHER RESOLVED HAMBURG.
THANKS DAVE LEWIS FOR HIS LOYAL SERVICE AND FRIENDSHIP THAT HE ENJOY HIS RETIREMENT AND GOOD HEALTH WITH OUR BEST WISHES FOR THE YEARS TO COME.
SECOND? SECOND IS MS. FARRELL ON THE QUESTION.
HOW ABOUT A UNANIMOUS, UNANIMOUS? SECOND FOR THE, FOR THE RECORD.
RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES THE AMERICAN LEGION AUXILIARY HAMBURG POST 5 2 7 TO CONDUCT THEIR ANNUAL POPPY CAMPAIGN DURING THE MONTH OF MAY, THE DATE THE NATION RECEIVED OR USED FOR REHABILITATION PROGRAMS FOR THE HOSPITALIZED AND THE DISABLED VETERANS IN THIS AREA AND AID FOR THEIR FAMILIES.
SECOND, UH, MS. FARRELL ON THE QUESTION.
RESOLVED THAT THE FOLLOWING BE APPOINTED TO THE SHORELINE REVITALIZATION COMMITTEE FOR THE BALANCE OF THE YEAR 2021.
KIM FINLEY AND BARB DO, IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT PLEASE? SECOND.
SECOND IS MR. CONLEY ON THE QUESTION.
WHEREAS NEW YORK STATE HAS ANNOUNCED THAT THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSED BUDGET WILL RESULT IN A 20% REDUCTION IN IN AIM FUNDING FOR THE TOWN OF HAMBURG AND OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, WHICH COMPOUNDS THE INITIAL 20% REDUCTION THAT WAS IMPOSED UPON HAMBURG AND OTHER TOWNSHIPS IN THE 2020 CALENDAR YEAR.
AND WHEREAS FOR THE SECOND STRAIGHT YEAR, THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSED BUDGET ELIMINATES VIDEO LOTTERY TERMINAL FEES DUE AN OWING TO THE TOWN OF HAMBURG.
AND WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG SUFFERED A 20% REDUCTION IN VLT FUNDING IN ITS MOST RECENT BUDGET YEAR FROM THE STANDARD PAYMENT OF $869,000 TO APPROXIMATELY 692,000.
AND WHEREAS THE STATE'S RATIONALE FOR THE ELIMINATION OF DLT REVENUE FOR HAMBURG IS PREMISED UPON THE UNWARRANTED ASSERTION THAT HAMBURG DERIVES SIGNIFICANT ECONOMIC BENEFIT FROM THE OPERATION OF THE RACETRACK CASINO AT THE ERIE COUNTY FAIRGROUNDS.
AND WHEREAS THERE IS NO DISCERNIBLE ECONOMIC BENEFIT TO THE HAMBURG COMMUNITY RESULTING FROM REVENUE REALIZED BY THE OPERATOR OWNER OF THE VIDEO LOTTERY CASINO, AND WHEREAS THE STATE IS FACED WITH A MASSIVE DEFICIT, WHICH CAN ONLY BE REALISTICALLY ADDRESSED BY THE APPROPRIATION OF FEDERAL STIMULUS FUNDS FOR STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
AND WHEREAS PLACING THE FINANCIAL PAIN UPON PROPERTY TAXPAYERS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY IS THE LEAST RESPONSIBLE AND THE LEAST EQUITABLE RESOLUTION OF THE ECONOMIC DEPRIVATIONS THAT OUR NATION HAS SUFFERED AS A RESULT OF THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG REQUESTS THAT THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK ULTIMATELY ADOPT A STATE BUDGET THAT RESTORES AIM FUNDING AND VLT REVENUE AND THE FULL AMOUNT THAT THIS COMMUNITY HAS COME TO DEPEND UPON TO SUSTAIN MUNICIPAL SERVICES FOR ALL OF ITS RESIDENTS AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG REQUESTS THE WESTERN NEW YORK CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION ALONG WITH THE UNITED STATES SENATORS, SCHUMER, AND GILLIBRAND WORK TO APPROPRIATE FEDERAL FUNDING TO STATES LOCALITIES TO EASE THE FINANCIAL BURDENS THAT PROPERTY TAXPAYERS MUST SUFFER, MUST SUFFER THROUGH OWING TO THE SEVERE ECONOMIC DOWNTURN THAT HAS RESULTED FROM THE EXTENDED CRISIS OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED IF THE TOWN CLERK, THAT TOWN CLERK CERTIFIED COPIES OF THIS RESOLUTION BE SENT TO THE FOLLOWING PUBLIC OFFICIALS, UNITED STATES SENATE
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MAJORITY LEADER, THE HONORABLE CHUCK SCHUMER, UNITED STATES SENATOR, THE HONORABLE KI KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND, NEW YORK STATE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR, THE HONORABLE KATHY HOEL, THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES MEMBERS, THE HONORABLE CHRIS JACOBS, THE HONORABLE BRIAN HIGGINS AND THE HONORABLE THOMAS REED, NEW YORK STATE SENATORS, THE HONORABLE SEAN RYAN, THE HONORABLE JIM KENNEDY, NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY MEMBERS, THE HONORABLE JOHN RIVERA AND NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY MAJORITY LEADER, THE HONORABLE CRYSTAL PEOPLES STOKES.IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND? SECOND.
I'M SORRY, WHO'S THE SECOND? I APOLOGIZE.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
WHEREAS TOM SCHMITZ SIGNED THE BID POSTING FOR MAINTENANCE WORKER AT THE SENIOR CENTER AND HAS BEEN AWARDED THE POSITION BASED ON THE QUALIFICATIONS BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVES TOM MITZ, UH, TO THE POSITION OF MAINTENANCE WORKER EFFECTIVE 1 19 21.
IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT? SECOND.
SECOND, MR. CONLAN ON THE QUESTION.
UH, BEING RESOLVED, THE TOWN BOARD APPROVES THE REHIRING FOR THE FOLLOWING BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS EMPLOYEES.
THAT IS SANDRA GRAY AND SANDRA RIA, PART-TIME CLEANERS EFFECTIVE START DATE 2 2 21 AT THE HOURLY RATES DESIGNATED ON THE PAF FORM ATTACHED TO THE RESOLUTION.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND.
SECOND IS MR. CONLEY ON THE QUESTION.
UH, WHEREAS THE SUPERVISOR GAVE THE BUILDING THE GROUNDS DEPARTMENT THE APPROVAL TO ORDER ONE NEW 2021 FORD FOUR 50 TRUCK, WHICH HAD A DEADLINE DATE OF 1 22 21 IN ORDER TO SECURE 2021 PRICING DUE TO THE SHORTAGES OF THAT MODEL BOARD APPROVES THE PURCHASE OF THE 2021 FORD F FOUR 50 SUPER DUTY TRUCK IN THE AMOUNT OF $61,519 AND 56 CENTS.
FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN A POINT 1640 0.202 AND A 0.7140 0.202.
THE JUSTIFICATION, UH, FOR THIS RESOLUTION IS LISTED BELOW.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND.
SECOND IS KAREN HOKE ON THE QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
UH, KAREN RESULT THAT THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZED THE LATERAL TRANSFERS OF JOSEPH LA AND JEFFREY VINNEY TO THE POSITION OF POLICE OFFICER EFFECTIVE 1 31 21 AT AN HOURLY RATE OF $35 AND 18 CENTS PER HOUR.
JOSEPH LAROSA WILL HAVE SIX MONTHS TO ESTABLISH RESIDENCY IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG AND SHALL BE AWARDED SENIORITY OVER JEFFREY DEVINNEY BASED ON HIS PREVIOUS YEARS OF QUALIFIED SERVICE PURSUANT TO THE TOWN BOARD MINUTES OF 1 11 20 21.
RESOLUTION NUMBER 13, FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT B 3 1 2 0 0.100.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND.
SECOND IS MR. PETRI ON THE QUESTION.
RESOLVE THAT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE CHIEF OF POLICE IN HIRING MICHAEL ADAM OF AND STEVEN MILLE TO THE VACANT POSITIONS OF POLICE OFFICER PROBATIONARY EFFECTIVE FEBRUARY 1ST, 2021 PURSUANT TO THE TOWN BOARD MINUTES OF JANUARY 11TH, 2021, EACH CANDIDATE IS ON A CIVIL SERVICE LIST.
SALARY IS 26 38 PER HOUR AND FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN B 3 1 2 1 0.
SECOND IS BETH FERRELL ON THE, UH, QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
UH, RESOLVE THAT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PERSONNEL DEPARTMENT TO APPOINT AMANDA LYLE TO THE VACANT FULL-TIME PROVISIONAL POSITION OF SENIOR PERSONNEL
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CLERK WITHIN THE PERSONNEL DEPARTMENT.THE APPOINTMENT IS SUBJECT TO ALL PRECONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO PRE-EMPLOYMENT BACKGROUND CHECK AND PHYSICAL.
THE APPOINTMENT IS EFFECTIVE 2 2 21 AT A RATE OF $25 AND 86 CENTS PER HOUR TRANSLATING TO $54,000 ANNUALLY.
FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN A 1430 0.1.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND, MR. PETRI, UH, ON THE QUESTION, ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
WHEREAS THE CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY AND ABANDONED RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 36 49 LAKE AVENUE HAS BEEN DEEMED BY THE TOWN CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL TO BE UNSAFE AND ATTRACTIVE
WHEREAS THE TOWN HAS NOT RECEIVED AN ADEQUATE RESPONSE BY THE LISTED OWNER, NOR HAS ANY REMEDIAL WORK UNDERTAKEN TO ALLEVIATE, ALLEVIATE THE KNOWN HAZARDS.
CURRENTLY UNSAFE CONDITION, WHICH PERSIST ON THE PREMISES ONLY HAVE BECOME MORE HAZARDOUS TO THE PUBLIC.
THEREFORE, RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD BASED ON THE REVIEW OF THE REPORT REPAIRED BY THE TOWN CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL AND THE ABSENCE OF RESPONSE BY THE PROPERTY OWNER, ORDER THE DEMOLITION OF THE ABANDONED BUILDING BE IT RESOLVED, THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES THE TOWN CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL TO ADMINISTER THE PROPOSED DEMOLITION BY ESTABLISHING THE SCOPE OF WORK NECESSARY CONTRACTS AND COST ESTIMATES, INCLUDING THE NECESSARY MEDIAL WORK TO RENDER THE PROPERTY SAFE NOW, ALBEIT FURTHER RESOLVED THE TOWN BOARD AND FURTHER ORDERS THAT A NOTICE BE FORWARDED TO THE OWNER OF THE STRUCTURE AND THE PROPERTY ON WHICH THE STRUCTURE IS LOCATED IN A MANNER AS PRESCRIBED BY LOCAL LAW NUMBER FIVE DASH 1972 SECTION 80 DASH THREE PARAGRAPH C.
SO MOVED SECOND ON THE QUESTION.
THE RESOLUTION IS CARRIED WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG RECEIVES A REQUEST FROM THE MONCTON FAMILY TRUST TO REZONE A PORTION OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 28 19 LAKEVIEW ROAD FROM C TWO TO RA IN APRIL OF 2020.
AND WHEREAS THE APPLICANT PAID THE REQUIRED REZONING APPLICATION FEE OF $500 ON 5 13 20 AND WHEREAS APPLICANT CHOSE TO WITHDRAW THIS REQUEST AFTER DISCUSSING IT WITH THE PLANNING BOARD, NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES THE REFU REFUND OF $500 OF THE $500 RE ZONING APPLICATION FEE TO THE ATTORNEY FOR THE APPLICANT.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT RESOLUTION? SECOND.
SECOND IS MR. PETRI, UH, ON THE QUESTION? ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE.
RESOLVE IT RESOLVED THAT TOWN BOARD APPROVE THE TERMINATION AND HIRING OF PERSONNEL FOR THE YOUTH RECREATION AND SENIOR SERVICES DEPARTMENT AS FOLLOWS, UH, IT'S A TERMINATION FOR PART-TIME.
SECOND TO SHAW ON THE QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZED THE HYATT DEPARTMENT TO PURCHASE
WELL, CONTRACT NUMBER 0 6 2 1 1 7 VRM IS $71,220.
THE DESCRIPTION IS INCLUDED AND MR. CASEY HAD GIVEN US THE JUSTIFICATION AT OUR LAST MEETING.
FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT H 26.5130 MACHINERY AND EQUIPMENT.
SECOND IS, UH, SECOND IS KAREN HOKE ON THE QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
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AYE.RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZED THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT TO PURCHASE ONE NEW AND UNUSED PETERSON TL THREE GRAPPLE TRUCK, THE PURCHASE FROM SOURCE, WELL, CONTRACT NUMBER 0 4 1 2 1 7 DASH PLL IS $184 $184,290.
THE DESCRIPTION IS INCLUDED AND AGAIN, WAS DETAILED BY MR. CASEY AT OUR LAST MEETING.
FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT H TWO 6.5 1 3 0 2 0 1 MACHINERY AND EQUIPMENT.
IS THERE A SEC ON THE SECOND? I'M SORRY, WHO'S, WHO'S SECONDING THE RESOLUTION? I I'LL SECOND IT IF NO ONE DID.
UH, MR. PETRIE'S ON THE SECOND, UH, ON THE QUESTION.
WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG ACKNOWLEDGES JIM, THIS IS, UH, TED.
TED, WE, WE MAY, WE'RE IN THE, WE'RE IN THE TED, WE'VE ADOPTED THE RESOLUTION.
WE'LL GET TO YOUR REPORT WHEN WE GET TO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG ACKNOWLEDGES ITS RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE CAPITAL REPAIR VERY BAD, VERY BAD.
I'LL DO MY BEST TO SAY IT AS SLOWLY AS I CAN.
WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG ACKNOWLEDGES ITS RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE CAPITAL REPAIRS TO THE SIDEWALK AND FOUNDATION, WHICH SUPPORTS IT AND THE TOWN'S CLOCK TOWER ADJACENT TO THE HOPES RESTAURANT PARKING LOT ON LAKESHORE ROAD.
AND WHEREAS THE FOUNDATION BENEATH THE SIDEWALK AND AT THE CLOCK TOWER HAS SUSTAINED SIGNIFICANT DAMAGES OWING TO TWO UNFORESEEN STORMS ON 10 31 19 AND 11 15 20.
AND WHEREAS THE TOWN HAS UNDERTAKEN INTERIM REPAIR WORK TO MINIMIZE THE POTENTIAL FOR FURTHER DAMAGES DURING THE WINTER AND EARLY SPRING STORM SEASON, IN THE CALENDAR YEAR 2021.
AND WHEREAS A COMPREHENSIVE STUDY MUST BE UNDERTAKEN PURSUANT TO THE TOWN'S FISCAL POLICY TO DETERMINE THE SCOPE OF ENGINEERING SERVICES THAT WILL BE REQUIRED TO PREPARE NECESSARY SPECIFICATIONS FOR ULTIMATE, FOR ULTIMATE PUBLIC BID, FOR CONSTRUCTION WORK THAT MUST BEGIN AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO ADDRESS THE DAMAGES ABOVE DESCRIBED.
NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG DIRECTS THAT ITS DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEY MARK WALLING WILL SHALL PREPARE AND RFP IN CONJUNCTION WITH PROFESSIONAL ADVICE FROM GHD ENGINEERING KAMI JARRELL, AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE RFP SHALL BE SUBMITTED TO THE TOWN BOARD FOR ITS APPROVAL ON OR BEFORE THE DATE OF THE NEXT TOWN BOARD MEETING SCHEDULED FOR 2 22 21.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND? SECOND.
SECOND IS MR. CONLEY ON THE QUESTION.
UH, BOARD MEMBERS ALL IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
UH, MR. PETRI, UH, YOU, UH, GO ON THE NEXT ONE.
YOU MAY WISH TO AMEND THAT IF YOU CARE TO DO THAT.
WELL, HERE'S, HERE'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO.
I WOULD LIKE, UH, UH, TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE, UH, NUMBER 20 ON THE AGENDA AND ADVISE THE, UH, APPLICANTS TO SEE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.
OKAY? I'D LIKE TO SECOND THAT.
SECOND IS MR. CONLEY, UH, ANY BOARD MEMBERS ON THE QUESTION? UH, IS NICOLE BONCI OR OR HER HUSBAND WITH US? UH, HAVE THEY DIALED IN? I DON'T KNOW.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? CAN YOU HEAR ME? NICOLE, YOU ARE VERY BROKEN UP, MR. SHAW, BUT I CAN HEAR YOU ALRIGHT.
I, UH, BUT I'LL GO AS SLOWLY AS I CAN.
UH, NICOLE, THE BOARD IS OF THE OPINION WE SHOULD TABLE THIS.
UH, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU AND YOUR HUSBAND HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR SEVERAL MONTHS TO GET, HOPEFULLY GET AN APPROVAL.
BUT THE SUGGESTION IS THAT WE REFER YOU BACK TO ROGER GIBSON, OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER
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IN THE HOPE THAT ROGER CAN WORK WITH YOU TO RECONCILE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING YOUR APPLICATION.THERE'S A RESOLUTION TO DENY YOU, WE WOULD TABLE THAT AND GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK THROUGH THE ISSUES WITH OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT, UH, OFFICE.
IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU? UM, MR. SHAW, WE ACTUALLY WENT TO THEM BEFORE DOING THIS.
WE ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH THAT DEPARTMENT AND, UM, PRETTY, I THINK I PRETTY MUCH SPOKE TO EVERYBODY IN THAT DEPARTMENT.
AND THERE WAS, THE WAY THE PROPERTY LINES ARE AND WHERE THE POOL AND STUFF IS IN OUR BACKYARD, IT, IT WOULDN'T MATCH UP THE WAY THAT IT GOES DIAGONAL AND TOWARDS THE BACK.
THAT'S WHY WE NEEDED A PIECE OF THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT.
WELL, LET ME, LET ME SAY THIS TO YOU.
UH, WITH REGARD TO RESOLUTION THAT'S ON THE AGENDA.
IT IS, IT IS A RESOLUTION WHICH WE'RE REQUIRED TO INTERVENE BECAUSE THE PLANNING BOARD DENIED YOUR APPLICATION.
SO RATHER THAN VOTE ON THIS RESOLUTION, WHICH MAY RESULT IN A DENIAL OF YOUR APPLICATION, UH, THE BOARD IS TABLING A, A, AN UP OR DOWN VOTE TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO WORK THROUGH SOME OF THESE ISSUES WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT.
UH, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO, UH, TO WORK WITH YOU AND TRY TO HELP YOU OUT AS BEST I CAN.
ALRIGHT, THAT'S THE RESOLUTION, WHICH IS WHICH I SECOND ON THE QUESTION TO TABLE.
UH, IN FAVOR OF THE TABLE PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
NOW LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I GUESS THAT CONCLUDES THE AGENDA.
WE HAVE TO BRING FORWARD OUR BIWEEKLY, UH, AUDIT OF CASH DISBURSEMENTS FOR MONDAY 2 1 21.
TOTAL OPERATING FUND DISBURSEMENTS ARE $2,214,479 AND 14 CENTS.
THE TOTAL CASH DISBURSEMENTS SUBMITTED FOR AUDIT ARE $3,646,193 AND 22 CENTS.
I WOULD MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE THIS AUDIT REPORT ACCORDINGLY.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND.
THANK YOU MS. FERRELLS ON THE SECOND ALL DEBORAH, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED WITH THE BOARD'S PERMISSION.
WE'LL TURN TO DEPARTMENT HEAD REPORTS.
UH, HOW ABOUT BRIDGET LAVELL IN COURTS? BRIDGET, ARE YOU WITH US? OKAY.
RECEIVED NOTIFICATION TODAY, UM, THAT THE COURT WAS AWARDED THE JCAP GRANT ALONG WITH THE PPE REIMBURSEMENT GRANT THAT I SUBMITTED BACK IN OCTOBER.
SO WE ARE AUTHORIZED TO PURCHASE TWO FIREPROOF FILING CABINETS WITHIN UM, THREE MONTHS.
GOOD WORK ON RESUME COURT APPEARANCES YET.
DO YOU KNOW WHEN THAT WILL BE? WHEN YOU WILL, WHEN YOU WILL RESUME ON SATURDAY STATING THAT THERE IS NO DATE AS OF YET.
UH, SAMANTHA TAR SINSKI FROM FINANCE.
SAM, ANYTHING? SAM JUST TEXTED ME THAT SHE IS ABLE TO HEAR THE MEETING BUT SHE'S HAVING TROUBLE WITH BEING ABLE TO, UM, SPEAK OR CONTRIBUTE.
WELL SAM, IF THAT'S THE CASE, YOU CAN MAYBE SEND US AN EMAIL.
SHE'S JUST WALKED INTO THE CONFERENCE ROOM.
ANYTHING YOU WANNA REPORT, SAM, BEFORE WE UH, GO ON? UM, YEAH, SO, UH, WE ARE STILL WAITING TO GET A SIX TO EIGHT WEEK, OH GOSH, WE ARE STILL WAITING TO GET A SIX TO EIGHT WEEK TIMELINE FOR THE KBS CLOUD IMPLEMENTATION, UM, THAT WE'RE HOPING WILL REVOLUTIONIZE A LOT OF TOWN PROCESSES, ESPECIALLY DURING COVID.
UM, ALSO IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING ON THE 2020 AUDIT AS WELL.
ANYTHING ELSE? I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE BOARD FOR APPOINTING MY REPLACEMENT SO THAT I CAN GET ON, UH, WITH TRAINING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
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NOTHING TO REPORT MR. ROGER, UH, GIBSON IN CODE ENFORCEMENT.ANYTHING ROGER? UH, NOTHING NEW TO REPORT TONIGHT.
UH, IS TOM MARRO HERE OR CAM MAYBE CAMMI.
ENGINEERING ANYTHING REPORT? I AM STILL HERE.
I HAVE, UH, NOTHING ADDITIONAL TO REPORT.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT EITHER.
PAT, ARE YOU WITH US? NOTHING TO REPORT, JIM.
HOW WAS THE PROJECT AT HOPES? HOW'S THE INTERIM PROJECT AT HOPES PAT ALL DONE? OH, MAYBE I'M NOT GETTING THROUGH.
HOW DID YOU CALL ME? NO, CHRIS HALL.
CHRIS HALL IN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
ANYTHING FOR YOU, CHRIS? OKAY.
UH, JENNIFER MAY VERY DIFFICULT TO HEAR YOU, BUT I ASSUMING THAT YOU, ASSUMING THAT YOU CAN HEAR ME, HAVEN'T GOT TO YOU YET BOARD FOR PASSING THOSE.
UH, THE ONE, THE GRAPPLE AS WELL AS THE, UH, WOOD CHIPPER.
UH, AS I NOTE IN THAT DESCRIPTION, IT, UH, WILL HAVE A, UH, UH, SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE HIGHWAY'S DEPARTMENT TO TAKE CARE OF BRUSH.
WE HAVE HAD, UH, A LOT OF PHONE CALLS, UH, BRUSH THIS PAST YEAR AND THESE TWO PIECES OF EQUIPMENT WILL, AND NO SMALL MEASURE HELP, UH, ENSURE THAT WE TAKE CARE OF THAT TASK AND RESPONSIBILITY OF THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT IN AN EXPEDITIOUS MANNER.
AND SO I WANNA THANK THE, THANK YOU.
JENNIFER COS AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, UH, MARTY DEKE RECREATION.
JUST WANTED TO WELCOME THE, UH, FOUR NEW MEMBERS AND LOOKING FORWARD TO, UH, GETTING THEM INTO THE, UH, PROGRAM.
DAN STANFORD IN ASSESSING NOTHING NEW TO REPORT.
ANYTHING NEW OTHER THAN WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER? UH, FROM EMERGENCY SERVICES? NO, SIR.
UM, SO JUST OUR USUAL, UH, MONTHLY REQUEST SIGNAGE AND SUCH.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF BIGGER PROJECTS WE'RE WORKING ON, UM, WITH THE AMAZON POTENTIAL AMAZON PROJECT.
WE HAVE, UM, WE'RE DRAFTING A LETTER TO THE IDA, JUST READING REGARDS TO TRAFFIC CONCERNS AND SOME SUGGESTIONS FOR ADDRESSING THAT LONG TERM.
UM, WE'VE ALSO DONE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH B AND G, DONE A, AN AUDIT OF ALL THE, UM, CHILD IMPAIRMENT SIGNS AROUND THE TOWN.
SOME OF THEM WE'RE DATING BACK TO, UM, THE MID SEVENTIES, SO
SO IT'S GOOD THAT WE'RE DOING AN AUDIT AND FINDING OUT WHAT'S STILL RELEVANT.
AND I'M WORKING WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO CREATE A, UM, MORE OF AN AUTOMATED SYSTEM FOR THOSE RENEWALS.
UM, AND LET'S SEE, THOSE ARE KIND OF THE BIGGER PROJECTS.
WE HAVE A FEW MORE ON THE BACK BURNER, UM, ALSO WORKING ON THE AMSEL STREET OR AMSEL ROAD, UH, SCHOOL SPEED ZONE.
SO THAT SHOULD BE FINALIZED VERY SHORTLY.
SARAH DEJA DAN IN PLANNING ANYTHING? OKAY.
UH, BOARD MEMBERS, ANYTHING FROM, UH, UH, ANY OF YOU? KAREN HOKE? UM, MR. PETRI? MR. CONLEY? BETH FERRELL? ANYTHING TO SAY? ANY REPORTS THAT WE HAVEN'T MENTIONED? THANK YOU.
I COVERED, I COVERED EVERYTHING IN THE WORK SESSION REGARDING, UM, WHAT I WANTED TO DISCUSS.
UH, IN THAT CASE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
I THINK WE'RE GONNA DO A LIVE MEETING,
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UH, FACE TO FACE, WHICH WILL ALSO BE, UH, UH, UH, STREAMED.