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GENTLEMEN, WOULD YOU BE KIND ENOUGH TO RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? WE'LL GET STARTED.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND JU TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDERGONE INDIVISIBLE WITH EVERY MEETING TO JUSTICE FOR ALL.
UM, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA.
WE WANT TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT FROM DREW RILEY, AND LATER ON WE'LL WANT, MAYBE WANT TO HEAR FROM WALTER AND OR MARK WALLING.
BUT IN ANY EVENT, LET ME TAKE THINGS IN THE ORDER OF WHICH I HAVE 'EM.
I WANT TO GIVE YOU FOLKS EACH A COPY OF THIS AGREEMENT, THE BOARD MEMBERS, LIKE, THANK YOU.
UH, THIS LADIES AND GENTLEMEN IS A, UH, THANK YOU.
THIS IS AN AGREEMENT THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE PUT ON TODAY'S AGENDA FOR BOARD ACTION.
UH, THE, THE TOWN CLERK DIDN'T GET THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION REGARDING THIS AGREEMENT UNTIL AFTER THE 1230 CUTOFF TIME, AND I DIDN'T FIND OUT ABOUT IT TILL ABOUT FIVE MINUTES TO FOUR.
WHAT THIS IS, IS THE, UH, CONTRACT WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT ON A LARGE BULK PICKUPS.
UH, AS YOU KNOW, WASTE MANAGEMENT, UH, IN 2019, UH, 2020, HAD AN AGREEMENT WITH US AND WE HAVE THE OPTION TO EXTEND IT INTO 2021.
THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO ACCEPT THAT OR REJECT IT.
THEY'RE TO PICK UP, UH, MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY ON DAYS DESIGNATED BY THE HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENT AT LEAST ONE TIME A MONTH.
THEY GOTTA COME TO YOUR HOME FOR BULK PICKUPS, AND THAT'S FROM APRIL 1ST TILL 10 31, UH, IN EACH APPLICABLE YEAR.
UM, WE DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS RENEWAL UNTIL LATE THURSDAY AFTERNOON.
SO RATHER THAN HAVE KATHY, UH, AND BRAD DO A COMPLETE AMENDED AGENDA, I TOLD THEM THAT I WOULD PUT THIS ON FOR TODAY AS AN ADD-ON RESOLUTION AT THE END OF OUR REGULAR MEETING.
NOW, LET ME JUST EXPLAIN TO YOU, UH, THE OPTION TO BE EXERCISED FOR 2021 TAKES THE, THE CONTRACT TAKES TERM IS 4 1 21 TILL 10 31 21.
THERE IS NO DATE FOR THE EXERCISE OF THE OPTION
HOWEVER, IN GETTING THIS CONTRACT,
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I REALIZE THAT IF WE DON'T MOVE ON THIS TONIGHT, THE MEETING IS APRIL.OUR NEXT MEETING IS APRIL 5TH.
I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE A BREACH IN SERVICE.
NOT THAT THERE WOULD BE NECESSARILY, AND I HAVEN'T, UH, WALTER, I HAVE NOT CONFER, UH, CONFERRED HAD THE TIME TO CONFER WITH, UH, WASTE MANAGER TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE NECESSARY LIABILITY, AUTO INSURANCE AND UMBRELLA INSURANCE.
THEIR MONTHLY PAYMENT EACH YEAR WENT UP YEAR ONE, YEAR TWO.
UH, WE'D HAVE TO PAY THEM 26,000 495 96 A MONTH.
SO, UH, IT'S, WE DON'T HAVE MUCH CHOICE.
UH, TED CASEY NOTIFIED ME, UH, LATE ON THURSDAY AFTERNOON.
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE O OBVIOUSLY APPROVE THIS CONTRACT.
THE CONTRACT TERMS I JUST ROUGHLY OUTLINED FOR YOU.
UM, WALTER, YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THEM AT GREATER LENGTH.
YOU CAN SPEAK ON IT IF YOU WISH TO.
I WOULD ALSO THINK IT WOULD BE SMART OF US TO MAYBE CONSIDER AROUND THE 1ST OF JULY AN RFP TO PRICE OUT WHAT WE'LL DO COME 2022, BECAUSE I THINK IF I DO SOME FAST MATH, 26,000 4, 95 TIMES SEVEN MONTHS, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ALMOST $200,000 FOR THE BULK PICKUP DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME.
SO, WALTER, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.
TO YOU, YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS.
I THINK LATE THURSDAY AND OR EARLY FRIDAY.
ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD TO IT? I DON'T THINK SO.
I THINK THIS IS THE BEST OPTION FOR THE TOWN UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES.
OBVIOUSLY THIS CONTRACT WAS NEGOTIATED THREE YEARS AGO.
WE NEGOTIATED ALL THE TERMS. YEAH.
THE OPTION HERE WAS PUT IN THERE, ASSUMING EVERYTHING, EVERYONE WAS HAPPY WITH THE CONTRACT AT THIS LATE STAGE IN THE GAME.
I DON'T THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO PUT ON AN RFP BECAUSE IT'S GONNA TAKE TOO MUCH TIME.
AND I THINK IT WOULD RESULT IN THAT IN A, IN A, IN A ABSENCE OF SERVICE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, WHICH WE DON'T WANT TO DO.
UM, SO I DON'T THINK THAT SIGNING THE CONTRACT, UH, I THINK SIGNING THE CONTRACT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
ONE OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES I AN RFP IS A GOOD IDEA, AND WE HAVE ALL OF THESE CERTIFICATES AND ET CETERA THAT MR. SHAW ALLUDED TO.
WE HAVE CERTIFICATES FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR.
WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE 'EM FOR THIS YEAR YET.
AND THEY HAVE THE OPTION TO DECLINE THE CONTRACT TOO, WHICH WE DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER THERE.
AND WE DID SPEAK ABOUT THE, THIS CONTRACT AT THE LAST MEETING IN TERMS OF THE FACT THAT THERE WAS THE, UH, BUDGET DISCREPANCY BECAUSE IN THE THIRD YEAR WE DID TAKE THIS OPTION YEAR, IT WAS AN INCREASED AMOUNT, ABOUT $5,000.
AND WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION AT THE LAST MEETING ABOUT WHERE WE WOULD TRANSFER THAT FROM.
SO, UM, I DID GET A COPY OF TED'S RESOLUTION ALSO, AND I WORKED OUT WITH SAM WHERE, UH, YOU KNOW, HE HAD BUDGET CODES THERE, BUT WE HAD TO CHANGE THE WORDING JUST A LITTLE BIT TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS REPRESENTED, UH, APPROPRIATELY.
SO SAM DID MAP THAT OUT HERE WHERE IT HAS TO BE TRANSFERRED FROM GOOD.
AND WHERE IT HAS TO BE TRANSFERRED TO.
WELL, I'VE GOT TED'S RESOLUTION HERE.
SO ARE, ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU GOT A, AN UPDATED ONE? OH, OKAY.
WE'LL READ THAT ONE INTO THE RECORD.
DO YOU WANT THE DATES PUT ON THERE? THAT'S, UH, THE ONLY THING HE DOES NOT HAVE IN HIS RESOLUTION IS, UH, REFERENCING THE 4 1 21 THROUGH MARCH 31ST, 22? WELL, I THINK, UH, FOUR, YEAH.
4, 1 21 THROUGH OCTOBER 31, 21.
YEAH, WE CAN, I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THAT AGAIN? UH, 4 1 21.
SO IF YOU GOT THE, IF YOU GOT THE, UH, UPDATED INFORMATION, WE'LL USE YOUR RESOLUTION.
I'LL LET YOU, UH, READ IT, MAKE THE MOTION.
WHY DON'T WE PUT IT, UH, RIGHT AT THE END OF THE MEETING RIGHT AFTER THE TSAV CAMERA SUBSCRIPTION.
JUST A, A QUESTION ON THE, UH, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT AN RFP FOR GOING FORWARD, SEAN, AS PART OF THE GARBAGE, UH, UH, COMMITTEE THAT YOU HAVE GOING ON, UM, WHAT DO YOU THINK THE STATUS OF THAT IS? IS IT SOMETIME THIS YEAR OR IN, IN THE FUTURE YEARS, OR? WELL, IT'S HARD TO SAY UNTIL THE COMMITTEE FORMERLY MEETS.
WE HAVE ALL THE PARTICIPANTS LINED UP, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WAITING FOR COVID TO SETTLE.
THE IDEAL IS TO HAVE SOME FACE-TO-FACE MEETINGS.
SO I ANTICIPATE EITHER LATE APRIL, CERTAINLY BY THE END OF MAY, WE'LL HAVE HAD OUR FIRST MEETING.
UM, BUT TOP ON THE LIST REALLY IS GOING TO BE LOOKING AT HOW, OBVIOUSLY HOW TO SAVE MONEY.
AND SO AN RFPI, I WOULD DEFINITELY CAUTION THE BOARD TO WAIT UNTIL THAT COMMITTEE HAS TIME TO REALLY VET EVERYTHING OUT.
AND THEN WE CAN COME UP WITH AN R-F-P-I-I, I THINK A A A WAY THAT WE POTENTIALLY GO ABOUT THIS TOO, WHEN YOUR WORK IS ALL DONE WITH THE COMMITTEE IS INSTEAD OF PAYING THIS, HAVE IT INCLUDED
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IN THE CONTRACT, LIKE, LIKE IN BLA STYLE, YOU DON'T, WE DON'T PAY THIS.IT'S, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE DEAL.
AND THEN THAT WOULD SAVE FROM, YOU KNOW, TAKEN FROM HIGHWAYS, BUDGET, THIS MONEY, YOU KNOW, JUST A THOUGHT IT COULD SAVE MONEY.
WE'RE DEFINITELY EXPLORE ALL OPTIONS.
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS TO BE ABLE TO SAVE MORE MONEY, ECONOMIES OF SCALE.
AND I THINK PART, YOU KNOW, INCLUDING THIS IS A GREAT POINT THAT WE'LL DEFINITELY BE LOOKED AT.
THE TIME BEING, AT LEAST WE'VE GOTTA STICK WITH WEIGHT.
WE'VE GOTTA STICK WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT.
NOW, THE NEXT THING I WANNA TALK TO YOU ABOUT IS, UH, WE, AS YOU KNOW, SPENT, WHEN I SAY WE, I MEANT THE DEPARTMENT HEADS MYSELF, CHUCK NORTON, UH, UH, A LARGE PART OF 2019, UH, DRAFTING REDRAFTING, UH, NEGOTIATING MANAGEMENT, CONFIDENTIAL PERSONNEL RULES AND REGULATIONS.
SO I, I KNOW YOU MAY ALREADY HAVE THIS, BUT I'M GONNA GIVE IT TO YOU ANYWAY.
THIS IS ANOTHER PACKAGE OF MATERIALS.
WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE ANY ACTION ON THIS TONIGHT.
BUT I'D LIKE YOU EACH TO STUDY AND MARK IT UP AND COME BACK WITH ANY IDEAS OR CRITIQUE YOU WANNA PUT TOGETHER.
AND, UH, WHAT I'M HOPING TO DO IS ASK THE BOARD, UH, AMONG THE FOUR OF YOU, PICK ONE PERSON TO JOIN ME NEXT WEEK, AND I'LL INVITE THREE DEPARTMENT HEADS TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS STILL ON BOARD.
THE DEPARTMENT HEADS HAVE APPROVED THIS, UH, BUT THE TOWN BOARD HAS NOT.
YOU ALL SET? EVERYBODY ALL RIGHT? YEAH, BRAD? YEAH, SURE.
OKAY, SO IN OTHER WORDS, NEXT WEEK I'LL MEET WITH A TOWN BOARD MEMBER AND MAYBE THREE OR FOUR DEPARTMENT HEADS, AND WE'LL GO OVER THIS.
AND, UH, THERE MAY BE SOME LAST MINUTE CHANGES.
SOMEBODY HAS SOME NEW IDEAS THAT NEED TO BE CONSIDERED.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO GET SOME RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES DOWN, UH, AS IT RELATES TO MANAGERIAL, CONFIDENTIAL, UH, EMPLOYEES SO THAT EVERYBODY IS ROLLING IN THE SAME DIRECTION.
ARE YOU, UM, IS THERE A CERTAIN TIME OF THE DAY THAT YOU ARE LOOKING TO HAVE THIS MEETING? I HAVE NOT EVEN, I HAVEN'T GIVEN ANY THOUGHT.
I KNOW YOU WORK DURING THE DAY, BETH, YOU HAVE SOME WORK.
WELL, BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA COME IN, UH, NEXT TUESDAY ABOUT FOUR 15, BUT MAYBE WE COULD WORK, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GET IT TOGETHER FOR TUESDAY.
WELL, LET ME SEE WHAT I, ALL RIGHT.
LEMME MARK IT DOWN FOR NEXT TUESDAY TO SHOOT FOR AROUND 4, 4 15.
'CAUSE I'M NOT SURE WHEN SOME OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS WILL BE GOING HOME.
UH, YOU FOUR, TELL ME WHO YOU WANT.
WE CAN'T HAVE THREE OF US THERE, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE TWO OF US THERE.
ALSO TWO, I'M WANNA ASK THE BOARD TO CONSIDER GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION WITH RESPECT TO, UH, ITEM NUMBER 10 ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS A PERSONNEL MATTER AND ALSO AN ITEM NOT ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS THE RESOLUTION OF A LEGAL ACTION AGAINST THE TOWN.
SO I WANT TO HAVE CHUCK AND, UH, WALTER GIVE US SOME ADVICE ON THAT ONE.
AND THE, UH, NUMBER 10 IS, IS DEALING WITH QUALIFICATIONS AND, UH, UH, TITLES FOR PEOPLE WITHIN THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE.
SO, UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION, UM, UH, A LITTLE LATER ON IN THE WORK SESSION TO GO INTO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION WHEN WE GET TO THIS ON THE AGENDA REVIEW.
UH, ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO DISCUSS SOME ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA, IF I MAY? UH, UHHUH
THIS CAME FROM, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT, UHHUH
THIS IS IN REGARDS TO THE 18 MILE CREEK, UH, CRITICAL AREA.
SO THEY REVIEWED WHAT WE HAVE, AND IF YOU LOOK ON HERE, UH, IT SAYS UNENFORCEABLE MM-HMM
SO CLEAR CUTTING SOIL DISTURBANCE, PLACEMENT OF FILL, CLEARING OF VEGETATION.
AND THE SIDE MARK IS PRIVATE PROPERTY.
UM, SO CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS A COUPLE ISSUES WITH THIS THAT I THINK WE SHOULD DISCUSS.
UH, ON THE SECOND PAGE, HAS THE TOWN BOARD, UH, YOU KNOW, QUESTION MARK, NO ZONING BOARD INVOLVED.
SO ROGER SAID HE WOULD BE HERE, UH, DON'T SEE HIM.
I THINK THEY HAVE SOME GOOD POINTS.
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OKAY.WELL, WE'VE GOT A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, TONIGHT ON THE 18 MILE CREEK PROTECTION LAW.
SO, UH, THIS IS RELEVANT TO THAT.
I THINK, UH, WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE ACTION TO ADOPT IT TONIGHT.
WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE THE HEARING.
SO THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO BRING IT UP.
MAYBE ROGER WILL BE HERE AT SEVEN.
HE SAID HE'D BE HERE, SO YEAH, HE CAN KICK, KICK IT AROUND.
ANYTHING ELSE OFF THE AGENDA HERE? UH, WHY DON'T I TURN THIS OVER TO OUR FRIEND THERE, MR. DREW RILEY, IF YOU WANT.
I DO, BUT I CAN ONLY TALK TO DREW.
ALRIGHT, WELL LET DREW GO AHEAD AND THEN WE'LL GET BETH.
AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS TONIGHT.
I DO HAVE HANDOUTS FROM ALL THREE OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
SOME OF 'EM ARE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
I WON'T GET WELL, THE HANDOUT ON THE, ON THE 18 MILE CREEK LAW, IT'S JUST A COPY OF THE LAW.
AND I KNOW I SENT IT TO ROGER FOR HIS COMMENT.
SO I WAS HOPING HE PROVIDES COMMENTS.
I DID POINT OUT TO HIM THAT HE'S GONNA BE ENFORCING MOST OF THE THINGS IN THAT LAW, SO HE'D HAVE TO COMMENT ON IT.
UM, SO THIS IS FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING.
ADD SOME HANDOUTS IF ANYBODY IS HERE.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS? OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE A MEMO FROM ROGER.
I'LL LET ROGER, UH, COMMENT ON THAT.
BUT YOU MADE THE CORRECT STATEMENT.
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT.
WE'RE STILL GOING TO COORDINATE REVIEW PROCESS.
WE MAY GET INPUT FROM OTHER AGENCIES, AND THE TOWN BOARD WILL CONSIDER THOSE COMMENTS AND AUTHORIZE ANY CHANGES TO THAT CODE IF YOU NEED CHANGES TO THAT CODE.
UM, THE NEXT ITEM IS THE MCKINLEY.
I'M TAKING 'EM OUT OF ORDER HERE, I THINK.
BUT THE MCKINLEY MALL INCENTIVE ZONING.
UM, I HAVE A HANDOUT FOR, IF ANYBODY SHOWS UP TONIGHT.
UM, SARAH DID GET A LOT OF CALLS FROM PEOPLE BECAUSE WHEN YOU DO A STANDARD NOTICE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, PEOPLE, PEOPLE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THE, WHAT THE, WHAT THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT IS ABOUT.
THEY THOUGHT THERE WAS A SPECIFIC PROJECT PROPOSED.
THEY WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT WAS.
THEY WANTED TO KNOW WHY ALL THEIR PROPERTIES WERE BEING REZONED.
UH, THEY DIDN'T LOOK CLOSELY ENOUGH AT THE MAP THAT THE MAP IS ONLY, I MEAN, THEY GET THE MAP ON THE WEBSITE.
SO ONCE SARAH TALKED TO MOST OF THE PEOPLE, THEY WERE VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THE LAW.
BUT OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT.
WE'RE GONNA LISTEN TO HIM GOOD FROM THE PUBLIC.
WE'VE DONE A COORDINATOR VIEW AND EXPECTING TO GET SOME COMMENTS FROM AGENCIES.
I DID GET SOME CALLS ON IT FOR CLARIFICATIONS.
THE FRONT PART OF THIS IS KIND OF JUST A SYNOPSIS OF WHY WE'RE DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, I SENT THE SUPERVISOR AND OTHERS TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
I WILL DO A QUICK PRESENTATION ON IT.
AGAIN, WE'RE TAKING PUBLIC COMMENTS AT HIGH SCHOOL.
AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS A REZONING.
UM, AND THIS ONE, I BELIEVE YOU WILL GET COMMENTS ON THIS IS THE ONE THAT AT THE LAST MEETING I ASKED YOU TO, THAT'S WHY YOU WERE HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING.
THIS IS THE ONE WHERE IT'S, IT'S A WETZEL DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S ON BIG TREE ROAD RIGHT NEXT TO THE PARKER ROAD SUBDIVISION.
AND WE AUTHORIZED THE PLANNING BOARD TO WORK ON BOTH THOSE PROJECTS TOGETHER UNDER SEEKER.
YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT, THE CUMULATIVE IMPACTS OF BOTH THOSE PROJECTS.
SO YOU AND THE PLANNING BOARD ALSO ASKED YOU TO HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE THEY WANT TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.
THEY'VE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC ON CERTAIN MATTERS, BUT THEY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC ON ALL THE MATTERS.
SO AGAIN, THIS, THIS, THIS REZONING HAS RECEIVED A LOT OF ATTENTION, UH, FROM THE PEOPLE IN THE AREA.
UM, SO AGAIN, WE'LL BE ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS, TRY TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS.
I KNOW THE DEVELOPER'S ATTORNEY, I KNOW IF SEAN'S HERE YET, WILL BE HERE TONIGHT.
HE'S GONNA, I'M GONNA DO A VERY SMALL PRESENTATION.
THE TYPICAL ONE I DO ON REZONINGS.
AND THEN, I DON'T KNOW A SUPERVISOR UP TO YOU, IF YOU WANT THE APPLICANT TO SAY A FEW THINGS ABOUT, AGAIN, THIS IS A REZONING WITH A SPECIFIC PROJECT.
WELL, I THINK SO WE'VE DONE THAT.
WE'VE LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK AT PUBLIC HEARING.
AND THE APPLICANT WANTS TO PRESENT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT MY MATERIALS, BECAUSE IT'S NOT FOR ME.
THE APPLICANT HAS COME UP WITH FIVE CONDITIONS THAT, THAT HE THINKS YOU GUYS CAN PLACE ON IT TO KEEP THE PUBLIC SATISFIED WITH THAT.
SO HE'S GONNA TALK ABOUT THOSE THINGS.
AND AGAIN, UNDER REZONING, YOU CAN APPLY REASONABLE CONDITIONS.
FOR EXAMPLE, I'M NOT GONNA TALK ABOUT ALL OF 'EM.
UM, BUT ONE OF THE CONDITIONS IS THE FIRST PLAN HAD A CONNECTION TO THE ADJOINING SUBDIVISION, THE, THE EXISTING AREA.
AND THE RESIDENTS WERE UP IN ARMS ABOUT THAT AND WANTED A PROTECTION AREA.
SO HE'S GONNA HAVE NOT ONLY A CONDITION OF NOT ALLOWING THAT CONNECTION, HE'S ALSO GONNA OFFER LAND AND PERPETUITY NEVER BE DEVELOPED, THINGS LIKE THAT AND WHATEVER, TRY TO SATISFY THE NEIGHBOR'S CONCERNS.
SO CAN YOU, CAN YOU GO INTO, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT THE CONNECTION IS? OR IS IT BETTER FOR SHONDO ADDRESS? YEAH.
INSTEAD OF IF, IF IT, THERE'S A COPY OF THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN IN THERE.
THE CONNECTION IS OFF BIGTREE ROAD.
AND IT USED TO BE THAT THEY WERE ALSO GONNA DO A SUBDIVISION PART OF THIS THAT WOULD CONNECT INTO THE ADJOINING OLDER SUBDIVISION.
WHY AM I FORGETTING THE NAME OF THE SUBDIVISION? LET'S THAT ADJOINING ONE OVER HERE.
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OVER HERE.THIS, UH, WHY AM I FORGETTING THE NAME OF IT? SODA PARKWAY.
UM, SO THERE WAS CONCERNS THAT JUST WERE GONNA CONNECT THROUGH.
IF YOU REMEMBER, THEY CAME WITH REZONING APPLICATION WITH THAT IDEA.
WHEN YOU SAY CONNECT THROUGH THOUGH, DO YOU MEAN, UH, PAVED STREET WHERE CARS CAN CONNECT PAVED STREET WITH A CAR GOING? SO THEY ACTUALLY AMENDED.
THEY HAD TWO PARTS OF THE, THE DEVELOPMENT.
IT WAS THE FRONT PART WAS THE MULTI-FAMILY AND THEN THE BACK PART, WHICH WOULD'VE A ROAD AND, AND DO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, JUST LIKE IN TOBACCO.
SO THEY CAME BACK TO YOU AND, AND RE AND RE AND CHANGED THEIR APPLICATION TO INCLUDE A LARGER AREA FOR THE MULTIFAMILY, BUT GOTTEN RID OF ALL THE SUBDIVISION AND LEAVING A BIG BUFFER.
THEY THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE BETTER.
YOU REFERRED THAT TO THE PLANNING BOARD.
SO AGAIN, WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO GET FOR THE PUBLIC, FOR THE PLANNING BOARD TO PUT TOGETHER THEIR REPORT AND MAKE A SEEKER DECISION.
IT WILL ULTIMATELY BE THE TOWN BOARD'S DECISION ON THE REZONING.
THE PLANNING BOARD IS GONNA DO SEEKER.
AND THEY'RE GONNA MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AND A REPORT.
AND THEN YOU ARE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION.
YOU COULD HOLD ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING IF SOMETHING HAPPENS OR WHATEVER.
BUT THE PLANNING BOARD OFFICIALLY WANTED TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.
WE'VE BEEN GETTING CORRESPONDENCE, WE'VE BEEN GETTING SOME OF THE PEOPLE TO SHOW UP AT THE MEETINGS.
BUT WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND THE PUBLIC'S CONCERNS ABOUT, ABOUT THE PROJECT.
AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE GOOD JUSTIFIABLE REASON.
I'VE EXPLAINED TO THE APPLICANT THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THAT AREA OF BIG TREE ROAD.
REMEMBER YOU HAD THE OLD WALMART SITE AND YOU HAD SOME OTHER COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE COMMERCIAL THERE.
WE'RE GONNA CHANGE IT TO MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, THEY BELIEVE.
AND AGAIN, THERE IT'S A DOWN ZONING, BUT IT IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S BEEN PLANNED THERE FOR YEARS.
THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS RIGHT IN A ROW.
UM, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THE APPLICANT WILL BE HERE TO ANSWER SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THE WETZEL ONE.
AND OBVIOUSLY MYSELF, MR. WALLING AND WALTER ARE AVAILABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT, ABOUT THE ZONING.
UM, UH, MARK WAS A VERY INFLUENTIAL IN HELPING DOING THE INCENTIVE ZONING LAW.
HE CAN HELP A LOT WITH THE QUESTIONS ON THAT.
UM, I HELPED, UH, UH, UH, MR. CONNOLLY AND, UH, CAB TRY TO PUT TOGETHER THAT 18 MILE CREEK ORDINANCE.
ONE THING YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE 18 MILE PRE COORDINATE, THERE IS A SECTION OF THE CODE THAT ALREADY HAS SECTIONS IN THERE.
AND THAT SECTION IS NOT REALLY FOLLOWED BECAUSE IT REFERS TO OUTDATED MATERIALS.
SO THE CONSERVATION BOARD IN THERE, YOU KNOW, WANTED TO TRY TO CON CONSTRUCT SOMETHING THAT WAS MORE MODERATE.
I DID SEND IT TO ROGER BECAUSE HE'S GONNA BE THE ONE FORCED WITH THIS.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE THE TOWN BOARD, IT'S NOT GONNA BE THE PLANNING BOARD, IT'S GONNA BE THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS FOR, PEOPLE WANT TO PUT SHEDS, THINGS LIKE THAT, UP AROUND 18 MILE FREE.
ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, I WILL SEE YOU SEVEN O'CLOCK.
UM, MARK, UH, UH, NUMBER 13 IS THE RESOLUTION, INTRODUCING THE LOCAL LAW, UH, FOR THE FLOOD DAMAGE PROTECTION.
DO YOU WANT TO GIVE THE BOARD A LITTLE OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE WERE DISCUSSING WHAT YOU DID? WELL, THANK YOU.
UM, THE, UM, WE ARE UNDER THE GUN, UH, IN TERMS OF OUR TIME LIMITS ON THAT, THE, THE, UM, THE, THE LAW THAT WAS IN PLACE REALLY WASN'T SUFFICIENT ACCORDING TO THE, UH, TO, TO FEMA.
IT WASN'T SUFFICIENT ACCORDING TO THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION.
AND THEN WE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE DEC SAYING, YOU HAVE TO MAKE YOUR CHANGES IMMEDIATELY.
AND, UH, THEN THEY HAD A TEMPLATE THAT THEY VERY HELPFULLY SUBMITTED TO US, AND YOU JUST FILLED IN THE BLANKS WITH, YOU KNOW, VERY EASY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS LIKE, UM, WHAT'S THE RESPONSIBLE PARTIES? WHERE DOES AN APPEAL GO TO? SO I PUT IN, I, I TALKED TO, TO MR. SEAN, AND WE, WE CAME UP WITH THE APPEAL GOING TO THE TOWN BOARD.
UM, SO THIS IS NOT ANY GREAT PIECE OF AUTHORSHIP ON MY PART.
BASICALLY, WE HAD TO JUST FILL IN SOME VERY SIMPLE BLANKS.
IT'S, IT'S ABOUT FOUR TIMES AS LONG AS WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY AS OUR LOCAL LAW, BUT WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY CHOICE.
UM, THE OTHER THING I DID ON THIS IS I HAD TO MEET WITH, UM, WITH TIM AND ROGER, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, THAT WHAT WAS IN THERE AS FAR AS THE FLOOD PLAIN AREAS WERE THE CORRECT ONES.
SO THEY LOOKED AT ALL THE MAPS THAT THEY HAD TO, AND THEY, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE WEREN'T ON A, ON A DIFFERENT PAGE FROM WHAT FEMA WAS AS FAR AS WHAT THE FLOOD MAPS WERE.
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SO THEY WERE ABLE TO, TO, UM, MAKE IT, UM, CLEAR THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT FLOOD MAPS BEING RE REFERRED TO.THE OTHER THING IS, IF WE DON'T DO THIS, WE CAN LOSE OUT IN A THINK WAY FINANCIALLY WITH THE, WITH FEMA.
WE, UH, AND, UH, WE REALLY, UH, NEED TO, TO ADD QUICKLY AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT.
I, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING IN THIS LAW THAT YOU NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT.
THERE'S NO WORDING IN HERE THAT IS PROBLEMATIC.
UM, THERE WAS SOME ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS WE COULD PUT IN THERE THAT, THAT, THAT CONCEIVABLY COULD BE ADDED.
BUT WHEN I TALKED TO ROGER ABOUT IT, AND ROGER AND TIM, THEY BOTH THOUGHT THAT HAVING THESE OTHER SECTIONS WOULD NOT BE WORTH THE TROUBLE TO TRY TO, TO MONITOR AND TO, AND TO GIVE THEM THE INFORMATION THEY NEEDED.
SO WE JUST STUCK WITH THE, THE BASICS OF IT.
SO
LISTEN, WE HAVE TO, WE CAN'T RISK FEMA FUNDING IN THE EVENT OF FLOOD DAMAGES, THAT'S FOR SURE.
YOU KNOW, WE GOT THE SITUATION DOWN WITH HOOVER BEACH AND, AND, UH, YEAH, SURE.
SO, SO WE REALLY DO NEED TO GET THIS THING PASSED, UM, RIGHT AWAY.
BETH, I'M SORRY, YOU'RE, YOU WANTED TO, UH, MAKE SOME POINTS.
UM, WE HAD A DISCUSSION LAST TIME ON THE STATUS OF THE BLAST AT THE BEACH AND THEIR SITUATION REGARDING FUNDING.
SO LAURA HAN DID PUT TOGETHER SOME INFORMATION AND WE DID GET SOME UPDATED INFORMATION.
I JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH THE REST OF THE BOARD.
UM, ONE OF THE BIG CONSIDERATIONS WAS THAT, UH, FISHER BUSS IS ALWAYS VERY GENEROUS IN THEIR SUPPORT AND SHE WAS WAITING FOR COMMITMENT FROM THEM, WHICH THAT HAS COME THROUGH, WHICH IS VERY HELPFUL IN TERMS OF PLANNING.
SO SHE OUTLINED THIS AND SAID THAT, UH, AS FAR AS THE COST, UM, SHE'S ESTIMATING THAT THE BUDGET FOR THE EVENT WOULD BE ABOUT $12,000 WITH THE THINGS THAT THEY ARE GOING TO SCALE BACK ON, THAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE, BETWEEN THE BUDGET THAT THEY HAVE AND WHAT THEY NEED TO RESERVE FOR OTHER EVENTS, THEY HAVE ABOUT SEVEN.
THAT'S BEFORE THEY START FUNDRAISING.
SO THE WORST CASE SCENARIO WOULD BE IF THEY FUNDRAISE NOTHING, IT WOULD BE THE TOWN MAKING UP THAT DIFFERENCE OF $5,000.
THEY COULD VERY WELL FUNDRAISE AND, UH, RAISE THE ENTIRE AMOUNT, WHICH IS IN, WITHIN THE RANGE OF WHAT THEY TYPICALLY DO.
THEY JUST HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING WHAT TIME.
SO THAT GIVES US AN IDEA OF WHAT THE COMMITMENT MIGHT BE.
THEY ARE ALSO WAITING FOR, UM, SHE'S BEEN IN CONTACT WITH, UH, MR. MOSES OF THE VILLAGE AND THEIR COMMITTEE REGARDING BURGERFEST, BECAUSE THEY FEEL LIKE THERE SHOULD BE SOME CONSISTENCY BETWEEN THE EVENTS IN TERMS OF, UH, SOME OF THE WAYS IN WHICH IT'S SCALED BACK.
SOME OF THE PROTOCOLS, GUIDELINES, ET CETERA.
SO SHE'S WAITING FOR THAT INFORMATION.
SO SHE'LL LOOK MORE AS WE GO ON.
BUT THEY DO NEED TO START GETTING THEIR FUNDRAISING LETTERS OUT.
AND THEY, UM, SO SHE PROVIDED THIS INFORMATION SO THAT WE COULD HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION THIS EVENING.
WELL, WE ALL AGREED LAST TIME THAT WE WOULD ASSIST THE GROUP, UH, IF, UH, THEY NEEDED MONIQUE TO MAKE THIS, UH, UH, BLAST THE BEACH THIS YEAR.
SO IF WE HAVE TO, WE WILL, WE'LL DO WHAT WE GOTTA DO THAT, I THINK, RIGHT? YEAH.
I JUST, WE WANTED TO ALSO HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT THAT COMMITMENT MIGHT.
AND THEN THE ONLY, ONLY OTHER POINT WAS, I KNOW THAT WE, I BELIEVE EVERYONE GOT THE COPY OF THE UPDATES TO THE, UM, SEXUAL HARASSMENT POLICIES.
AND I THINK WE'RE ON THAT TIMELINE.
UM, CHUCK JUMP IN IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WANNA ADD, BUT I BELIEVE HE'S GOTTEN IT OUT TO ALL THE OTHER STAKEHOLDER GROUPS.
SO WE SHOULD BE READY TO SUBMIT THAT RESOLUTION FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT NO ONE HAD ANY QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS REGARDING THE INFORMATION THAT WAS SENT TO THEM.
ANYTHING ELSE, CHUCK? PERSPECTIVE? NOTHING.
THE, THE MAIN, THE MAIN, UH, AMENDMENT IS THAT, UH, THE STATE IS NOT AN AFFIRMATIVE DUTY TO TAKE ACTION WHEN THERE'S REASON TO BELIEVE THAT SEXUAL HARASSMENT HAS TAKEN PLACE.
IT WAS KIND OF BUILT IN THE LAW BEFORE AS A CONSTRUCTIVE NOTICE TYPE THING.
BUT IT'S NO MORE EXCUSE SAYING THE PERSON WHO WAS COMPLAINING DID NOT WANNA, DID NOT WANNA PURSUE IT.
THE SUPERVISORS, MANAGERS HAVE AN AFFIRMATIVE DUTY TO PURSUE THE MATTER AND NOT SWEEP IT UNDER THE RUG.
SO THAT WAS THE MAIN MAJOR CHANGE.
THERE'S A COUPLE MORE WORDING CHANGES.
I JUST PUT THOSE IN THERE TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE CLEAR.
BUT IT, IT ALSO, UH, IT TRACKS AND MAPS THE MODEL STATE POLICY THAT THEY PUT OUT THERE, DEPARTMENT OF LABOR WEBSITE.
AND WE DO HAVE INFORMATION FOR SEVERAL OPTIONS ON NO COST, UM, UH, NO COST OPTIONS FOR TRAINING, WHICH IS GREAT.
BOTH THROUGH EVANS AND THROUGH VANDER.
WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT ROUTES THAT WE CAN TAKE.
UH, SO IT LOOKS LIKE AT THIS POINT, TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT, UM, EMPLOYEE
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TRAINING IN PLACE WILL NOT INCUR ANY TYPE OF A COST.YEAH, WE, WE, WE'VE EXPLORED THAT.
WE'VE LOOKED AT IT, AMANDA AND I, GOOD OPTIONS.
SHE'S LOOKED AT THE WORKPLACE VIOLENCE.
I'VE LOOKED AT THE SEXUAL HARASSMENT.
IT'S ACTUALLY A PRETTY GOOD PROGRAM.
WE JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE LOGISTICS OF GETTING, UH, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR, OUR MANUAL LABOR PEOPLE GETTING ON PCS.
IF IT WAS JUST INDIVIDUAL PCS, WE COULD JUST SEND LINKS TO EVERYBODY MM-HMM
AS A VERIFICATION, CERTIFICATES THAT ARE GENERATED.
UH, AND THEN THEY SEND THE RECORDS INTO TO US SO THAT WE CAN MAINTAIN IT.
SO IT, IT IS A GOOD SYSTEM THAT THE, THE TRAINING IS ACTUALLY PRETTY GOOD, WHICH I WAS HAPPY ABOUT.
AND, UH, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF LOGISTICS.
I THINK, UH, WE'RE GONNA COORDINATE WITH JENNIFER ROBINSON WITH THE COMPUTERS, BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE UPGRADING A LOT OF THINGS FOR SOME OF THE GROUP, UH, PRESENTATIONS.
WE'RE GOING TO, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO IT AS A GROUP, YOU KNOW, GET A GROUP OF PEOPLE IN.
THEY'LL BE TO DO IT ON A, ON A, ON A BIG MONITOR AND JUST KIND OF DO IT AS A GROUP AND, AND PUT THE CERTIFICATIONS IN.
AND THE COMPANY WILL GENERATE THE CERTIFICATE.
SO EVERYBODY WILL HAVE A CERTIFICATE FOR THE TRAINING AND ALL GO IN THEIR FILES.
IT, IT'S ACTUALLY PRETTY ELEGANT, PRETTY GOOD.
CAN THEY DO IT, UH, AT HOME ON THEIR OWN PERSONAL COMPUTER OR? WELL, THEY COULD, BUT THEN WE HAVE ISSUES OF, UH, UH, FAIR LABOR STANDARDS ACTION, HAVING PEOPLE WORK FROM HOME.
UH, YOU DON'T WANNA GET, I MEAN, THEY COULD, AND, AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS DO IT THAT WAY.
PARDON ME? YOUR VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT? WELL, THEY'RE NOT PAID AND THEY DON'T GET SUBJECT.
AND THAT THE TRAINING ALSO INCLUDES THE SUPERVISORY ROLE PIECE, THAT, THAT NEW TRAINING THAT'S INCLUDED ON THE, THE LIST OF FREE OPTIONS.
SO THAT'S, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE A GREAT OPTION.
ACTUALLY, UH, THE NEXT STEP, I, I'M GONNA, I HAVEN'T ASKED THE SUPERVISOR YET, BUT I'LL ASK HIM NOW, BE WHO THE NEXT UH, UH, DEPARTMENT HEAD MEETING I THOUGHT COULD PRESENT THAT.
AND IT MIGHT BE, UM, AS FAR AS THE TRAINING, IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF OUR EMPLOYEES HAVE ACCESS TO A DESKTOP TO DO THAT.
BUT EVEN IF WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS LIKE HIGHWAY AND BNG, THAT MIGHT, COULD THAT BE DONE IN LIKE A CLASSROOM SETTING? SO THEY'RE NOT, I KNOW THAT SOMETIMES THERE'S ISSUES WITH PEOPLE USING THEIR OWN PERSONAL DEVICES TO HAVE TO DO TRAINING.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID LAST TIME.
SO THAT THEY COULD BE ACCOMMODATED.
THAT ALL, EACH DEPARTMENT HAS TO MAKE SURE YOUR EMPLOYEE, EACH OF YOUR EMPLOYEES GET THIS DONE WITHIN A CERTAIN TIME PARAMETER.
BUT OUT D AND G RECREATION, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME IDEAS FOR ONBOARDING PEOPLE AND GETTING UNDER THE TRAINING.
AND WE DO HAVE AN EMPTY DESK IN THE OFFICE THERE.
WE CAN SIT SOMEBODY DOWN THERE.
SO WE WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING IT ALL TOGETHER.
ANYTHING ELSE? UH, SHARON, DO YOU WANNA WAIT TILL THE REGULAR MEETING TO GIVE THE, A LITTLE SYNOPSIS OF THE REPORT? UM, I COULD DO IT NOW.
YOU GUYS FEEL LIKE
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME YOU WANT TO TAKE AS FAR AS HAVE, HAVE YOU, HAS EVERYBODY HAD TIME TO REVIEW? I DIDN'T GET THROUGH THE WHOLE THING.
I'VE GOT YOUR BITS AND PIECES.
'CAUSE IT'S QUITE CONSIDERABLE.
SO, AND A MAJORITY OF THAT IS THE STUFF THAT WE'VE ALREADY HAD ACCESS TO AS FAR AS THE GOVERNOR'S ORDER AND THEN THE, UM, SURVEY RESULTS.
I WAS THINKING SOME OF THE STUFF WE COULD REVIEW WOULD BE THE ACTUAL PLAN THAT THEY PUT TOGETHER THOSE ITEMS, WHICH WOULD BE ON PAGE 12 TO 14.
WERE THE BULK OF WHAT WAS ADDED SINCE ALRIGHT.
SINCE THE PROCESS STARTED MM-HMM
SO, AND I SEE CHIEF TRASK IS HERE, SO HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO CHIME IN ON SOME OF ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE.
'CAUSE CHIEF TRASK AND CAPTAIN EZ WERE REALLY, REALLY HELPFUL AND ENGAGED IN THIS PROCESS, GETTING US INFORMATION THAT WE NEEDED AND, AND KIND OF HELPING THEM WITH SOME FEEDBACK AND IDEAS.
UM, SO WHEN YOU START THE REPORT, AND THIS IS GONNA BE SUBMITTED FOR APRIL 1ST, IF WE ADOPT IT TONIGHT, UM, IT GOES OVER, YOU KNOW, WHAT EVERYONE HAS SEEN WITH THE EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT CAME FROM THE GOVERNOR.
AND I IMAGINE THIS IS SOMETHING WE'LL PROBABLY MAKE AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE TOO, FOR REVIEW MM-HMM
AND THEN IT GOES OVER, UM, THE DEMOGRAPHICS IN TOWN, WHICH, WHICH CAME FROM THE CENSUS DATA, UM, WHICH WE'VE ALL, THAT WAS PART OF THE SURVEY REVIEW ALSO THAT WAS AVAILABLE, UM, LAST MONTH.
UM, AND THEN IT GOES THROUGH SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT THE DEPARTMENT PROVIDED WITH US AS FAR AS, UM, YOU KNOW, ARREST DATA AND POLICE CONTACT DATA AND DIFFERENT PERCENTAGES WITH THAT.
UH, GIVES YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND OF, OF THE MAKEUP OF THE REFORM AND REINVENTION COMMITTEE AND THE MEMBERS ON THERE.
WE HAD SOME REALLY ENGAGED, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS, UH, WHO WERE VERY HELPFUL AND GAVE A LOT OF TIME.
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WAS OUR LIAISON FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.HE WAS VERY HELPFUL AND VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN THIS PROCESS ALSO, AND CHIEF TRASK.
AND THEN OF COURSE, I SERVED AS THE LIAISON FROM THE TOWN BOARD.
UM, EVERYBODY WAS AWARE OF THE COMMUNITY SURVEY AFTER WE COLLECTED THE DATA FROM THE COMMUNITY SURVEY.
UH, WE DOCUMENTED THE FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN THE COMMITTEE MOVED FORWARD WITH IDENTIFYING WHAT THE REINVENT PLAN IS.
SO I WON'T READ THROUGH THE WHOLE THING, BUT NUMBER ONE WAS THE COMMITMENT TO DIVERSITY.
UM, AND WE CAME UP WITH SOME, SOME GOOD IDEAS THERE THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IN SUPPORTING THE DEPARTMENT.
UM, THESE ARE GOALS THAT I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH CHIEF TRASK PREVIOUS TO THIS ABOUT, ABOUT WHAT THE CHALLENGES ARE WITH OUR CIVIL SERVICE REQUIREMENTS AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE NEED SUPPORT FROM, YOU KNOW, STATE AND FEDERAL REGULATIONS AS FAR AS OUR HIRING GOES.
UH, BUT WE DID IDENTIFY SOME DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE COULD DO, UM, TO BASICALLY WORK ON INCREASING OUR DIVERSITY IN OUR HIRING AND THEN ALSO ADDRESSING SOME OF THE GENDER DISPARITY.
UM, SO, AND THOSE ARE CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE CONTINUING, UM, WITH THE DEPARTMENT.
AND WE'VE COME UP WITH SOME REALLY GOOD IDEAS.
I DON'T THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ACHIEVE, YOU KNOW, SO QUICKLY.
BUT I THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME COMMUNITY OUTREACH OPPORTUNITIES THAT DOWN THE LINE.
IS THIS, IS THIS A RECOMMENDATION OR IS HOW, HOW IS THIS BEING IMPLEMENTED? IS THIS JUST A RECOMMENDATION OF OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'D LIKE TO TRY AND DO? YES.
OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE'S TRYING TO ENFORCE? LIKE, THAT WAS MY QUESTION TOO.
UH, THE TOWN BOARD IS TRYING TO ENFORCE.
SO HOW THIS WILL MOVE FORWARD AFTERWARDS.
SO WE SUBMIT THIS TO THE STATE SAYING WHAT OUR PLAN IS OKAY.
TO, FOR, YOU KNOW, REINVENTION, UM, IDEAS.
AND THEN THE GOAL IS THAT THE COMMITTEE HAD DECIDED THAT, AND, AND ALONG WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THAT WE HAD REALLY BENEFITED FROM THESE COMMUNICATION OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE WOULD CONTINUE TO MEET MAYBE ON A QUARTERLY BASIS, NOT A MONTHLY BASIS, BUT KIND OF EVALUATE IDEAS AND WAY WE CAN SUPPORT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN SUCCEEDING WITH SOME OF THESE INITIATIVES.
SO I, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK IT'S, IT'S LYING ON THE RESPONSIBILITY OF, OF ANY ONE GROUP.
IT IS, THESE ARE INITIATIVES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED BY THE COMMITTEE, UM, AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND, AND THEN AGAIN, WE HAVE THE ROLE OF, OF SUPPORTING HOW WE CAN HELP 'EM ACHIEVE SOME OF THESE GOALS.
SO THESE ARE REALLY IDEAS VERSUS GOALS, RECOMMENDATIONS, OR OBJECTIVES? YES.
I MEAN, SOME OF THEM ARE, THEY DO GET INTO MORE SPECIFIC ONES.
UM, SO WHEN YOU LOOK UNDER COMMITMENT TO DIVERSITY AND THAT, THAT LISTS A FEW ITEMS OF THINGS THAT WE CAN DO, THOSE AREN'T TANGIBLE ITEMS. THEY'RE MORE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD REWORD SOME POLICY OR MAKE SOME COMMITMENTS, THAT SORT OF THING.
UM, SO THE COMMIT COMMITMENT TO DIVERSITY REALLY LEADS INTO THE RECRUITMENT.
AND CHIEF TRASK AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS QUITE A WHILE AGO.
AND, AND, AND SOME OF THE EFFORTS THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR HIRINGS THAT ARE MOVING FORWARD, A LOT OF IT IS, IS RESTRICTED BY OUR CIVIL SERVICE LAW.
UM, BUT RECRUITMENT KIND OF GOES INTO COVERING THAT.
AND AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPING MEASURABLE GOALS THAT, THAT WE CAN ACHIEVE.
UM, SO THE MEASURABLE GOAL THAT'S, THAT'S STATED THERE, THAT WAS JUST AN EXAMPLE.
IT'S NOT AN ACTUAL, BECAUSE FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WAS MY QUESTION.
SINCE THEY DO HAVE THE CIVIL SERVICE FUNCTION, YOU KNOW, THOSE REGULATIONS, ET CETERA, IT, WHEN IT'S OUT THERE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT BY 2023.
THAT'S WHY I HAD THE SAME QUESTION.
WHETHER THIS WAS, THESE WERE IDEAS OR THESE WERE ACTUALLY ALREADY, OR IS THIS A PLAN THAT THAT'S BEING COMMITTED TO THAT THIS WILL BE WHAT THEY, THEY TRY TO ATTAIN? WELL, MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT'S A PLAN THAT THEY, THEY'RE WORKING TOWARDS BEING ABLE TO ACHIEVE THIS.
YOU KNOW, THE, THE GOALS ARE PUT OUT THERE WITH THE IDEA THAT WE'LL BE SUCCESSFUL WITH ACHIEVING SOME OF THOSE GOALS.
SO THIS GOAL THAT'S IDENTIFIED, UM, ONE OF THE MEASURABLE GOALS WAS, WAS INCREASING HIRING FOR, FOR WOMEN OFFICERS.
UM, AND SO THEY, THEY SET A MEASURABLE GOAL FOR 2023.
SO WITH THE STATE GOING ONTO THIS ONE HERE, IT SAYS THE TOP THREE CANDIDATES BASICALLY, THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING OFF OF THE TOP THREE SCORING CANDIDATES.
ISN'T THAT STATE LAW THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE FROM THE TOP THREE? NO, I THINK, I THINK THE CHIEF WOULD PROBABLY BE ABLE TO SPEAK IN MORE DETAIL ABOUT THAT.
CIVIL SERVICE LAW SAYS ON THE, IF YOU'RE GONNA HIRE UP A CIVIL SERVICE LIST, RIGHT? IT'S ONE OF THE TOP THREE CANDIDATES OKAY.
THE OTHER WAY IS TO HIRE SOMEBODY IS BY TRANSFER.
IN ORDER TO TRANSFER SOMEBODY, THEY HAVE TO BE OF EQUAL QUALIFICATIONS, UH, BY DEPARTMENT.
SO THAT KIND OF RESTRICTS US AS FAR AS THAT GOES.
BUT AS FAR AS I KNOW, AND MAYBE CHUCK CAN CHIME IN HERE, IT SAYS, UH, EXPAND HIRING PRACTICES TO
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INCLUDE MORE THAN JUST THE RELIANCE ON TOP THREE CANDIDATES BASED ON CIVIL SERVICE AND OR TRANSFERS TO FILL OFFICER VACANCIES.THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO, UH, METHODS THAT I'M AWARE OF TO OFF TO MINOR POLICE OFFICERS.
I DON'T, THERE'S NOTHING STRICT CIVIL SERVICE LAW.
I DON'T SEE ANY, UNLESS THEY MODIFY THE CIVIL SERVICE LAW, THAT'S GONNA BE, THERE'S NO AFFIRMATIVE ACTION AS THERE.
SO WHY ORDER BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OR SOMETHING THIS HAPPENED? WELL, I, I I WOULD SAY THESE ARE GOALS, NOT ORDERS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED.
UM, SO THEN YOU MOVE ON TO THE TRAINING, THEY IDENTIFIED SOME TRAINING GOALS.
UM, AND ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE ALSO HAD, UH, WITH CAPTAIN DIAZ, WHICH IS AN INITIATIVE THAT THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON, UM, I THINK FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
AND SEEING THAT EVERY OFFICER, UM, GETS THE CRISIS INTERVENTION TEAM TRAINING.
AND RIGHT NOW, I KNOW THAT'S EFFORTS THAT ARE UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE MORE OFFICERS GOING THROUGH THAT AND SETTING A GOAL SO THAT THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT WAS ABLE TO RECEIVE THAT TRAINING.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS ALREADY IN PLACE.
WEREN'T WE ALREADY IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT? WE DID.
BUT WE HAD AT, AT ONE POINT, I THINK WE, WE HAD A LOT TRAINED THIS YEAR.
I THINK THAT WHEN CHIEF CAME ON, WE HAD MAYBE ABOUT 25% OF THE FORCE.
AND WE'VE HAD, WE'VE, I, AND THAT NUMBER'S UP A LITTLE BIT MORE.
SO IT'S MORE ABOUT CLOSING THE GAP TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE OFFERS OFFICER OFFICERS ARE ABLE, CHIEF, THIS IS, SO YOU AGREE.
THIS IS SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE SO MANY OF THE CALLS WE GET, UH, ARE FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY IN EMOTIONAL DISTRESS OR IN SOME KIND OF PSYCHIATRIC MELTDOWN.
KNOWING HOW TO DIFFUSE THESE SITUATIONS IS SO CRITICAL TO US.
WE'LL LET THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT DOWN BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
WHICH IS REALLY A LOT TO SAY, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER DEPARTMENTS, OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO MEET THAT GOAL OR HAVEN'T STARTED WITH THAT GOAL.
AND I, AND IT'S ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS BEEN WORKING ON FOR, FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
SO I THINK ACHIEVING THAT GOAL IS REALISTIC.
UM, AND THEN THEY MOVED ON TO ACCOUNTABILITY.
UM, AND THAT WAS MORE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, INSTITUTING A COMMUNITY, CITIZEN MEMBER, POLICE OVERSIGHT, DISCIPLINARY BOARD, THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND, AND SO THE CONVERSATION AT THE LAST MEETING THAT THEY HAD WAS MORE CONTINUING ON AND FINDING A WAY THAT THESE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND OUR DEPARTMENT CAN WORK TOGETHER, UM, TO, TO SUPPORT EACH OTHER IN ACHIEVING SOME OF THESE GOALS.
UM, LET'S SEE, WHAT ELSE DID THEY MOVE ON TO? UM, AND THAT LEADS INTO TRANSPARENCY, WHICH WAS THE IDEA OF HOLDING QUARTERLY PUBLIC MEETINGS.
UM, AND THOSE MEETINGS, AGAIN, WOULD BE ATTENDED BY THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
AND THEN THEY WOULD ALSO BE ATTENDED BY, OF COURSE, CAPTAIN EZ AS A POLICE LIAISON.
UM, CHIEF TRASK WAS ALSO, UH, VERY ENGAGED IN THE PROCESS AND, AND HELPFUL AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO I IMAGINE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HE IS ALSO GOING TO BE PART OF AS FAR AS THOSE MEETINGS MOVING FORWARD.
THE OTHER THING THAT CAME OFF WAS DATA COLLECTION AND DISSEMINATION.
AND, AND I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A CHALLENGE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE, A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS FACE AS TECHNOLOGY KIND OF SHIFTS AND, AND BECOMES MORE AVAILABLE.
AND, AND IDENTIFYING WAYS THAT WE CAN GATHER DATA, UM, SO THAT IT'S EASILY IDENTIFIED AND, AND THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE TO BUILD ON THAT.
I KNOW SOME OTHER DEPARTMENTS HAVE TALKED ABOUT HAVING A DIGITAL MAILBOX OR FINDING A WAY TO, TO CHART AND STORE DATA.
UM, SO THAT, YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS, IT'S, IT'S EASIER TO, TO GET, UM, THE ONE OTHER, THE THING THAT CAME UP WITH EQUIPMENT, UM, IN THE SURVEY WAS BODY CAMERAS.
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE FROM MY CONVERSATIONS WITH CAPTAIN EZ AND CHIEF TRASK, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, NOT ONLY IS DEPARTMENT INTERESTED IN, BUT THE COMMUNITY'S INTERESTED IN JUST TO OFFER, YOU KNOW, PROTECTION AND ACCOUNTABILITY FOR, FOR NOT JUST THE OFFICERS, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT THEY'RE INVOLVED WITH.
UM, AND THEN IT MOVED ON TO ENHANCED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
AND, AND THERE WERE A LOT OF IDEAS SHARED FROM THE DEPARTMENT AND ALSO FROM THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS ON, ON HOW WE COULD DO THAT.
AND THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT I THINK THAT AS BOARD MEMBERS WE CAN ENGAGE IN TOO.
UM, SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE SURVEY, WE THOUGHT OF DIFFERENT COMMUNITY EVENTS OR, OR THINGS THAT WE CAN EXPAND UPON.
I KNOW THE DEPARTMENT ALREADY DOES A LOT OF THINGS TO ENGAGE WITH YOUTH AND ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY, BUT IDENTIFYING MORE OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THAT AND, YOU KNOW, PROCEEDING WITH THOSE, UH, TO HAVE SOME MORE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
AND NUMBER SIX WAS PUBLIC EDUCATION.
UM, AND SO IDENTIFYING A WAY TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, MONTHLY REPORTS ON, ON WHAT
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THE DEPARTMENT IS UP TO, TANGIBLE DOCUMENTS, UH, JUST JUST TO INCREASE SOME, SOME TRANSPARENCY AND, AND BEING ABLE TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH THE PUBLIC.UM, AND PART OF THAT PUBLIC EDUCATION WAS ALSO EDUCATING THE PUBLIC ON, ON THE FUNCTION OF OUR, OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT IN HAMBURG.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, HOSTING OPPORTUNITIES WHERE THEY CAN KIND OF HAVE A Q AND A OR CONVERSATIONS OR THEY CAN HAVE SPEAKERS, PEOPLE FROM THE DEPARTMENT TO KIND OF ENGAGE IN THOSE SORT OF CONVERSATIONS.
AND THAT WAS IT FOR THE ITEMS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED.
THE REST, SO THIS IS JUST TO CLARIFY.
SO THIS IS A LIST OF POSSIBLE IDEAS, BUT THE DECISION MAKING GOING FORWARD IS WITH THE, UM, CHIEF TO THEN GO THROUGH AND PRIORITIZE AND TO ACTUALLY PLAN HOW HE'S GOING TO ACCOMPLISH THOSE
WELL, AND I THINK IT'S A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT.
THE, UM, THE COMMITTEE PLANS TO CONTINUE TO MEET, YOU KNOW, NOT AS FREQUENTLY, BUT THEY'LL BE MEETING QUARTERLY, UM, MEETING WITH THE DEPARTMENT, IDENTIFYING WAYS THAT, THAT WE CAN SUPPORT THEM IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO THAT WE CAN SUPPORT THEM WITH, WITH PROCEEDING WITH SOME OF THESE INITIATIVES.
SO I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A, A GROUP EFFORT IS HOW WE LEFT IT AS HOW CAN WE, HOW CAN WE SUPPORT ACHIEVING SOME OF THESE GOALS? OKAY.
AND TO THE COMMITTEE, REALLY NICE PIECE OF WORK.
AND THEN IT GOES ON BASICALLY JUST INTO THE, THE SURVEY DATA, WHICH EVERYBODY HAD ACCESS TO THE SURVEY DATA AND KIND OF HOW THE, HOW THINGS WERE PHASED FOR THE PROCESS.
SO YOU GUYS CAN LOOK OVER THAT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO REVIEW THE GOALS AND INITIATIVES THAT THEY HAD IDENTIFIED.
WELL, UM, WE WANT TO GET THIS FILED BY WITH THE, UH, IS IT THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE OR THE DEPARTMENT OF BUDGET? STATE BUDGET.
SO, UH, YOU WOULD WANT TO MAKE A MOTION, I THINK, TO APPROVE IT TONIGHT, BECAUSE WE WON'T MEET BEGIN UNTIL THE FIFTH, SO, OKAY.
TO MEET THE DEADLINE, WE'D HAVE TO APPROVE TONIGHT.
CHIEF, ANY RECOMMENDATIONS YOU WANNA MAKE TO US WHILE WE'RE REVIEWING THIS BEFORE WE VOTE, UH, ON IT? UH, UP OR DOWN TONIGHT? UM, I JUST WILL BRING IT UP.
I SAW THAT THE BODY CAMERA ISSUE, I'M ALL FOUR BODY CAMERAS.
HOWEVER, THERE IS THE, UM, THE LOGISTICS, THE COST, THE PERSONNEL MANAGING THAT ELECTRONIC DATA.
SO YOU HAVE THE HARDWARE, SOFTWARE, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY MANAGE THAT DATA.
THERE'S ALSO STATE RETENTION LAWS ON MM-HMM
HOW LONG YOU HAVE TO KEEP THAT.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU GO TO, ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THERE'S GONNA BE ASSOCIATED COST.
WE MAY HAVE TO LOOK AT POTENTIAL FEDERAL OR STATE GRANTS.
UH, BUT THAT, BUT GETTING THAT KIND OF PROGRAM IMPLEMENTED IS GONNA MEAN A LOT OF PIECES HAVE TO COME TOGETHER AND WE MAY NEED MORE PERSONALITY TO DO.
YOU KNOW, AND SOME OF THOSE PIECES I THINK MAY BE OUTSIDE OF OUR REACH IN THE SENSE THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION, WHEN THEY WERE PUTTING THIS TOGETHER, THE COMMITTEE AND CAPTAIN EZ HAD SAID, YOU KNOW, THAT THIS IS THE GOAL HERE, BUT TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN ACCOMPLISH.
YOU KNOW, IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT MORE INFORMATION AND, AND FUNDING.
WE'D HAVE TO IDENTIFY TO SEE THAT THROUGH.
THANK YOU MR. MICHELLE? YES, MA'AM.
CAN I ADD TO THE CONVERSATION? PARDON ME? UM, I JUST WANTED TO ADD TO THE CONVERSATION.
WHEN I FELT THE NETWORK, THE NEW NETWORK INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, I TOOK BODY CAMERAS CHIEF INTO CONSIDERATION.
SO OUR NETWORK IS LARGE ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO HOLD THAT DATA THAT WOULD BE COMPILED FROM THE BODY CAMS. EXCELLENT.
UH, WELL LET'S DO A LITTLE BIT OF THE AGENDA, THEN WE'LL MAKE A MOTION TO GO INTO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
UH, WE'VE, WE'VE, UH, WE'VE HEARD FROM DREW ON ITEMS THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING IS OKAY.
WE'VE GOT TWO PROCLAMATIONS, ONE FOR ALYSSA STRAUSS AND ONE FOR ROSEMARY CROWLEY.
I WENT OVER TO HER HOUSE SATURDAY AFTERNOON TO GIVE HER HER PROCLAMATION, UH, IN ADVANCE.
UM, AND THEN SEAN, YOU'VE GOT, UH, UH, UH, SOME PART-TIME EMPLOYEES TO ADD TO, UH, RECREATION.
WE HAD A WONDERFUL MEETING THAT YOU ORGANIZED ON FRIDAY MORNING.
UH, LET'S SEE, WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE? UH, WE, WE WILL GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO TALK ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 10.
UH, I THINK THAT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
UH, THE RFP APPROVAL FOR THE FORMER DISPATCH AREA LAYOUT
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DESIGN.UH, I NOTICED IN THE, IN THE RESOLUTION THAT THERE WERE SEVERAL COMPANIES THAT SUBMITTED PROPOSALS, RIGHT? YES.
WE DIDN'T TAKE THE LOWEST BIDDER.
IS THERE ANY, UH, UH, UH, CAN WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE PROPOSALS SO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW WE CAME TO THIS RECOMMENDATION? YOU CAN LOOK AT ALL OF THEM IF YOU'D LIKE TO.
THE, WE DID THE BEST VALUE APPROACH AS OPPOSED TO THE LOWEST PRICE, GIVEN THE SCOPE OF WHAT THE DIFFERENT COMPANIES SAID THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO.
I BELIEVE THE, THE COMPANY THAT WE SELECTED WAS ON THE LOW END.
IT WAS MAYBE THE SECOND LOWEST SECOND.
AND I BELIEVE THERE WERE ASPECTS OF WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN INCLUDED UHHUH.
UM, BUT WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE, YOU'D LIKE TO SEE.
WELL, I JUST, YEAH, I JUST DON'T, I, I JUST DON'T KNOW.
I HAVE A BASIS FOR MAKING A DECISION.
'CAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF THE PROPOSALS.
I DON'T KNOW THE GROUP THAT TOOK A LOOK INCLUDED CHRIS HALL AND CAMMY AND TIM WILLARD, YOURSELF AND MYSELF AND RAY PAWLOWSKI WHO'S, UM, WORKING ON THE PROJECT HERE.
ALTHOUGH HE DID, UH, DO A SCORING SHEET AND I'M MISSING SOMEONE.
WHO AM I MISSING? THERE WAS ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL.
IS THAT EVERYONE? WELL, YOU LOOK IT.
I MEAN, I, UH, I I'D PREFER TO JUST REVIEW IT.
WE CAN GET YOU ALL SEVEN THOSE.
WAS THERE UNANIMOUS CONSENT OR WAS THERE DEBATE OR? IT AND CAMMI HOP IN IF YOU'D LIKE TO AND, AND CLARIFY.
UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS UNANIMOUS ACROSS THE BOARD.
I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION IT WAS AS WELL.
THERE WAS A RUBRIC THAT WAS YELLOW AND THINGS CLEARLY CAME OUT ON TOP.
UM, JUST TO THE DETAIL, THE EXPERIENCE, UH, THE, OKAY, WELL PUT TOGETHER PROPOSAL MM-HMM.
COMPLETE UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROJECT.
UM, PLUS THE VALUE IN THE ACTUAL THOUGHT.
WELL, IN THAT CASE, AS LONG AS ALL OF YOU ARE PRETTY CONFIDENT ABOUT IT, I'LL TRUST YOUR JUDGMENT.
THE, THE RUBRIC THAT WAS UTILIZED WAS ACTUALLY PUT TOGETHER BEFORE ANYBODY TOOK A LOOK AT THE VARIOUS MM-HMM
UM, PROPOSALS THAT WAS DONE PRIOR.
SO WE, WE, YOU KNOW, HAD A CONVERSATION, HAD A MEETING ESTABLISHED WHAT THE RUBRIC SHOULD BE, WHAT THE POINT SHOULD BE, THEN EVERYONE TOOK A LOOK AT THE, UM, PROPOSALS.
WE ALL, UH, DID OUR SCORING SHEET INDEPENDENTLY.
AND THEN THOSE WERE TALLIED TOGETHER.
I, I, UH, I'LL GO ALONG WITH THE GROUP.
WE GO, WE TALKED ABOUT THE RESOLUTION ON THE, UH, FLOOD DAMAGE PROTECTION.
THAT'S TO SET UP A PUBLIC HEARING, SO THAT'S OKAY.
AND THEN WE GOT THE NIKE BASED PARKING LOT REQUEST.
UH, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE RE RESOLUTION TO PUT OUT THE, THE, UH, BIDS SPECS FOR A PUBLIC BID ON THE DRIVEWAY IN THE PARKING LOT UP AT THE NIKE BASE.
I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT THOUGH.
WE DID HAVE, UM, MEMBERS OF THE HIGHWAY ADVISORY BOARD HAD TAKEN A LOOK AT THAT AND OFFERED THEIR SUGGESTIONS.
AND I BELIEVE THERE WERE SOME OTHER SUGGESTIONS FROM ENGINEERING.
AND THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT, UM, UH, THE LIABILITY, UH, DISCLOSURES BEING ATTACHED.
SO I KNOW I DID COMMUNICATE WITH MR. MILLER AND HE GOT THOSE TO ME.
'CAUSE I DON'T THINK THOSE ARE IN THERE, BUT THERE, IT APPEARS THAT THERE'S STILL SOME CONCERNS THAT WERE NOT ADDRESSED, UH, FOLLOWING THE DRAFT OF THE RFP, FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS THAT I TALKED FOR JUST A SECOND.
UM, I DID TALK TO RICK DOAK ON FRIDAY MM-HMM
AND HE MENTIONED THAT ALL OF THOSE ARE GONNA BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
THEY WILL, UH, HAVE THOSE IN TERMS OF, UH, WHEN THEY, THEY CONTRACT.
UM, AND THEY CAN MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS.
UH, UH, HIS POINT OF VIEW EVEN AFTER, UM, WHOEVER GETS THE BID HAS THE BID.
UM, SO I DON'T KNOW THE LOGISTICS OR THE LEGALITY OF THAT, BUT, UM, HE WAS AWARE.
'CAUSE I I BROUGHT UP THE SAME POINT.
I SAID, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED BECAUSE IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE EVERYTHING WAS MAPPED.
AND HE SAID HE IS AWARE OF THAT.
UM, THEY'RE TAKING, THEY APPRECIATE ALL THE INPUT, THEY CAN TAKE IT INTO CONSIDERATION.
BUT THE FIRST STEP IS JUST GETTING AN RFP OUT AND THEN THEY CAN, UH, ADJUST AS NEEDED.
AND MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT IT WAS PRETTY IMPORTANT FOR SOME OF THOSE SPECIFICATIONS TO BE CONTAINED IN THE RFP PRIOR TO BEING ISSUED.
AND, AND I CAMMI CAN YOU COMMENT ON THAT A LITTLE BIT? WELL, WELL, I MEAN, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A LEGAL QUESTION.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS WHEN THE TOWN OF THIS IS, THIS IS NOT AN RFP, IT'S A BID.
AND I BELIEVE THE TOWN IS LEGALLY REQUIRED TO GO WITH THE LOWEST BIDDER.
SO EACH BIDDER HAS TO BE BIDDING ON THE SAME THING.
THERE CAN BE ADJUSTMENTS AFTER THE FACT AS LONG AS ALL THE BIDDERS BID ON THE SAME SCOPE OF WORK AS REQUIREMENTS
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FOR MATERIALS AND SIZE AND STUFF.WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THE TOWN ISN'T AWARDING A BIDDER AND THEN NEGOTIATING SOMETHING
COULD, UH, BE ILLEGAL ON, ON THAT.
I THINK RICK MIGHT HAVE BEEN ALLUDING TO THE FACT THAT LET'S GET THIS OUT, BUT THEN LET'S SEND ALL THE BIDDERS THE UPDATED SPECS.
ONCE THEY FINALIZE THE SPECS AS LONG AS THEY
UM, BUT LET'S NOT DELAY GETTING THE PROCESS STARTED.
PAT, DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO THIS, PAT RYAN? NO, I, I AGREE WITH ALL YOU ALL EVERYBODY THAT SPOKE, IT WAS JUST THAT WE ARE UNDER A, A SMALL WINDOW OF TIME WHEN IT COMES TO THE NIGHT BASE PARKING LOT, ESPECIALLY THE DRIVEWAY BECAUSE OF THE ACTIVITY THAT GOES ON THERE.
ONCE THE ICE RING CLOSES, THERE'S A SMALL WINDOW BEFORE.
ALL THE PROGRAMS OPEN, ESPECIALLY IN DAY CAMP, THEY CANNOT CLOSE IT DOWN FOR DAY CAMP.
SO WE WANT THE RFP OUT IN THIS MEETING, SO THEN WE CAN FINALIZE THE ACTUAL BID AND WE WILL HAVE THE BID PROPERLY PUT OUT FOR THE, FOR THE BID.
UH, AND THEN ON THE DELINQUENT LOANS, UM, YOU WENT OVER WITH ME, MARK, UH, UH, PEOPLE THAT HAVE BORROWED MONEY FOR HOME IMPROVEMENTS THROUGH, UH, UH, CHRIS HALL'S DEPARTMENT, SOME OF THOSE FOLKS HAVE PASSED AWAY WITHOUT ANY, UH, COLLECTION EFFORTS BEING INITIATED PRIOR TO THEIR DEMISE.
OTHERS HAVE FILED FOR BANKRUPTCY OVER THE YEARS.
SO YOU PUT TOGETHER A LIST IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL JUDGMENT, WHICH, UH, UH, SHOULD REFLECT THE FACT THAT WE NO LONGER PURSUE, UH, THESE UNCOLLECTIBLE LOANS.
AND YOU'RE ASKING THAT WE THEN WRITE THEM OFF.
JIM, I THINK THAT, UM, THE ACTUAL LISTING OF THE LOANS SHOULD BE ATTACHED OR AN AMOUNT JUST FOR AUDIT PURPOSES.
IT WILL BE REQUESTED, UM, WITH NEXT YEAR'S FINANCIAL STATEMENT AUDIT.
UH, I CAN, WE CAN AMEND THIS RESOLUTION TO, UH, AT TONIGHT'S MEETING TO ADD THE ENUMERATION OF THE, OF THE DEBTORS, THE AMOUNTS, UH, AND A TOTAL.
I THINK YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION, RIGHT? YEAH, I ACTUALLY, I BROUGHT THEM, I BROUGHT THAT IN DOCUMENTS.
WELL, WHY DON'T, WHY DON'T YOU, IF YOU DON'T MIND, WE'RE GONNA GO INTO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
IF YOU WOULD BE KIND ENOUGH TO SIT WITH SAMANTHA, WE CAN ATTACH THE NECESSARY ITEMS TO THE RESOLUTION, YOU CAN GIVE IT TO ME.
UH, AND THEN AT THE MEETING, UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND BY, BY ADDING THE EXHIBITS, AND THEN WE'LL ADDRESS IT FROM THAT POINT.
UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, SEE WHAT ELSE WE, OH, THE CAMERA SUBSCRIPTION.
THAT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
THAT'S $1,500, RIGHT? IT'S, IT'S $1,500 THAT PREVIOUSLY HAD BEEN BUDGETED, UH, THROUGH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT THEY NO LONGER HAVE NEED FOR IT, AND THE TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD DOES.
UM, AND SO THEY DID NOT HAVE THE TIME TO PUT IT INTO THEIR, THEIR BUDGET.
SO WE FOUND A WAY TO, UM, BE ABLE TO, UH, ACTUALLY, SAM, DO YOU HAVE THE CODE, THE ACCOUNT NUMBER FOR THAT? UM, WHICH ACCOUNT CODE DO YOU NEED FOR THE, THE TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD? THE CAMERA SUBSCRIPTION TO $1,500.
SO YEAH, WHAT IT ALLOWS IS THAT YOU HAVE, THERE'S TWO PIECES TO IT.
YOU HAVE YOUR CAMERAS ONE, UM, YOU WANNA GATHER DATA, YOU HAVE THE CAMERAS IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL FREQUENTLY USE THE CAMERAS.
UM, IT WILL, YOU KNOW, AS A DETERRENT, UM, ET CETERA, RAISE AWARENESS.
BUT UNLESS YOU HAVE THE SUBSCRIPTION, YOU'RE NOT GATHERING THE DATA THAT ALLOWS YOU TO, TO ANALYZE THE, THE INFORMATION THAT THE, THE CAMERAS GATHER.
UH, AND THAT'S WHAT TRA TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD RELIES UPON.
UH, WHEN THEY WERE LOOKING AT THINGS ON AMSTEL ROAD, FOR EXAMPLE, THE MOST RECENT EXAMPLE, THEY UTILIZE THAT INFORMATION.
SO THEY TYPICALLY WOULD GET A SUBSCRIPTION EVEN FOR TWO CAMERAS THIS YEAR.
THEY THOUGHT AT THIS POINT, IF THEY EVEN JUST HAD IT FOR THE ONE, IT WOULD HELP THEM.
THEY FIGURED THAT THEY, UM, THEY PROBABLY UTILIZE THIS ABOUT SIX TO EIGHT TIMES A YEAR, BUT IF THEY HAD TO, UH, ACTUALLY CONTRACT OUT FOR IT, THEY WOULD SPEND PROBABLY THREE TO FOUR TIMES AS MUCH MONEY.
IN FACT, WE'RE GONNA PAY THAT AS A B FUND, RIGHT? YES.
THAT TAKES US THROUGH THE AGENDA.
UM, AND I, UH, WILL MAKE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS THE TITLE CHANGE AS IT RELATES TO THE TOWN ASSESSOR'S OFFICE AND ALSO THE RESOLUTION OF A IMPROPER PRACTICE
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CHARGE BEFORE, UH, THE PUBLIC EMPLOYEE'S RELATIONS BOARD, UH, TO DISCUSS THE LEGAL IMPLICATIONS OF THAT.SO THAT'S THE MOTION ON TWO FRONTS.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND.
UH, MS. MS. HO, UH, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE WILL ADJOURN.
TRY TO GET BACK AS FAST AS WE CAN AT THE SEVEN O'CLOCK MEETING.
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ENOUGH TO PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO TWO FIVE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND JUNIOR REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY, LIBERTY, AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CONVENE THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD, UH, FOR 3 22 21 TO ORDER.
IS THERE A SECOND ON THAT? SECOND.
UM, I'D LIKE TO, UH, TAKE, UH, A COUPLE THINGS OUT OF ORDER, UH, BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME GUESTS THAT, UH, REALLY DON'T HAVE TO SIT THROUGH ALL OF THIS, BUT I'D LIKE TO FIRST OF ALL, UH, READ A PROCLAMATION INTO THE RECORD FOR A VERY WONDERFUL PERSON WHO HAS DONE SO MUCH FOR US IN HAMBURG, AND IT READS AS FOLLOWS, WHEREAS ALYSSA STRAUSS HAS SERVED THE TOWN OF HAMBURG WITH DEDICATION THROUGHOUT HER TERM OF EMPLOYMENT.
AND WHEREAS ALYSSA HAS PLACED THE INTERESTS OF TOWN GOVERNMENT AND THE HAMBURG COMMUNITY CONSISTENTLY AHEAD OF HER OWN NEEDS AND PRIORITY, CREATING AN EXAMPLE FOR ALL TOWN EMPLOYEES TO EMULATE.
AND WHEREAS, AS PERSONNEL DIRECTOR FOR THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, SHE HAS EFFICIENTLY DEALT WITH THE HUMAN RESOURCE ISSUES, PAYROLL PROCESSING, AND THE RECONCILIATION OF PERSONAL ISSUES, PERSONNEL ISSUES THAT HAVE LAID THE GROUNDWORK FOR A MORE EFFICIENT DAY-TO-DAY OPERATION OF TOWN GOVERNMENT.
AND WHEREAS MELISSA HAS WON THE RESPECT AND EARNED THE FRIENDSHIP OF FELLOW DEPARTMENT HEADS AND EMPLOYEES THROUGHOUT THE TOWN, THROUGHOUT TOWN, GOVERNMENT WITH PROFESSIONAL MANNER IN WHICH SHE INTERACTS WITH OTHERS ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS.
AND WHEREAS WE WHO WORK WITH HER SINCERELY APPRECIATE THE OUTSTANDING WORK THAT SHE HAS DISCHARGED FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL OF US.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE HAMMER TOWN BOARD EXTEND ITS CONGRATULATIONS TO ALYSSA JOBS UPON HER ATTAINMENT OF A NEW POSITION IN THE TOWN OF WEST SENECA, AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD EXTENDS ITS BEST WISHES FOR A PRODUCTIVE AND REWARDING WORK EXPERIENCE AS ALYSSA MOVES EVER ONWARD AND UPWARD AND BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED THAT ALYSSA SHOWS HAS OUR UNANIMOUS THANKS FOR HER JOB.
IS THERE A UNANIMOUS SECOND FROM THE BOARD? YES.
WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT EIT A LONG TIME.
THAT YOUR MOM OVER THERE? YES.
AND I'VE GOT ONE MORE OF THESE, THESE PROCLAMATIONS TO DO, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
UH, BEAR WITH ME A MINUTE WHILE I GET THAT TOGETHER.
UH, ON SATURDAY, I WENT DOWN TO WOODLAWN, UH, AT, TO MEET A REALLY WONDERFUL PERSON.
ALL THE TOWN BOARD WAS AWARE OF, OF THIS AT OUR LAST MEETING, BUT IT READS AS FOLLOWS, WHEREAS ROSE MARIE CROWLEY HAS REACHED A MILESTONE THAT HER FAMILY AND FRIENDS HAPPILY ACKNOWLEDGE.
AND WHEREAS ROSE MARIE, FOR A CENTURY OF LIVING HAS BROUGHT LOVE AND LAUGHTER TO HER FAMILY AS A DEVOTED MOTHER, GRANDMOTHER, AND GREAT-GRANDMOTHER.
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WHEREAS AS A SURVIVING MEMBER OF AMERICA'S GREATEST GENERATION, ROSEMARY WORKED DURING WORLD WAR II TO SUSTAIN HER FAMILY'S NEEDS AND TO SUPPORT AMERICA'S WAR EFFORT IN A TIME OF INTERNATIONAL CRISIS.AND WHEREAS HER FAMILY HAS BEEN ENRICHED BY HER DECADES DEVOTED TO NOT ONLY THEIR WELLBEING, BUT TO THE CREATION OF CRAFTS THAT ALL OF THEM READILY ENJOYED.
NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED AT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD, ON BEHALF OF ALL CITIZENS OF HAMBURG, EXTEND OUR BEST WISHES TO ROSEMARIE CROWLEY ON THE ATTAINMENT OF HER HUNDREDTH BIRTHDAY AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE TOM BOARD EXTENDS ITS SINCERE THANKS TO A WONDERFUL WOMAN WHO HAS ENRICHED THE LIVES OF ALL THE PEOPLE SHE HAS COME INTO CONTACT WITH.
MAY SHE ENJOY YEARS MORE OF HEALTH AND HAPPINESS AND THE COMPANY OF HER DEVOTED FAMILY.
IS THERE A UNANIMOUS SECOND TO THIS? ONE SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
IT WAS A WONDERFUL THING DOWN THERE ON A SEVENTH STREET WOODLAWN.
THE WOODLAWN VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY HAD ALL THEIR TRUCKS OUT AND THE NEIGHBORS HAD A CARAVAN OF 20 OR 30 CARS AND THE PEOPLE BOUGHT PRESENTS FROM ALL OVER THE TOWN, A COUPLE OF BIRTHDAY CAKES.
SO CONGRATULATIONS TO ROSEMARIE CROWLEY.
JUST THINK I'M THINKING OF MYSELF.
I'VE ONLY GOT SEVEN YEARS TO GO TO CATCH UP
NOW LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE HAVE, UH, THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS TONIGHT ON LOCAL LAWS THAT IMPACT TOWN ZONING.
AND THE FIRST IS ON THE AGENDA, DEALS WITH THE MCKINLEY MALL AND THE INCENTIVE ZONING CLASSIFICATION THAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED FOR THE MALL AND THE PERIPHERAL PROPERTIES THAT RING THEM ALL COMPLEX, UH, ON MCKINLEY AND ON MILES STREP.
I'M GONNA TURN THIS OVER TO OUR FRIEND, OUR PLANNER, DREW RILEY, TO GIVE YOU FOLKS A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ON THIS.
THERE'S ALSO A HANDOUT AS TO WHAT INCENTIVE ZONING IS ALL ABOUT, THAT, UH, WE CAN GIVE TO, UH, ALL OF YOU LIKE ME TO READ THE, UH, NOTICE.
SO LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THANKS DREW, WITH THIS, UH, UH, BEFORE I, I I INTRODUCE YOU OR REINTRODUCE YOU, I GOTTA READ THE LEGAL NOTICE.
PLEASE TAKE NOTICE THAT THERE HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO THE TOWN BOARD ON 3 8 21 PURSUANT TO MUNICIPAL HOME RULE LAW, A PROPOSED LOCAL LAW TO BE KNOWN AS THE PROPOSED LOCAL LAW NUMBER THREE OF THE YEAR, 2021 SAID LOCAL LAW PROVIDES FOR THE AMENDMENT OF LOCAL LAW NUMBER 10 19 86, CHAPTER TWO 80, ENTITLED ZONING AND PROVI AND PROVIDES SUBSTANTIALLY AS FOLLOWS, AMENDS THE TOWN ZONING LAW CHAPTER TWO 80 OF THE HEMRICK TOWN CODE BY ADDING A NEW ARTICLE ENTITLED QUOTE, MCKINLEY MALL AREA INCENTIVE ZONING LAW END QUOTE.
A MAP COPY ILLUSTRATING THE AREA OF THE TOWN APPLICABLE TO THIS LAW WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC REVIEW DURING REGULAR BUSINESS HOURS AS THE FOLLOWING TWO LOCATIONS, HAMBURG TOWN HALL, TOWN CLERK'S OFFICE, UPPER LEVEL AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT, LOWER LEVEL 6,100 SOUTH PARK AVENUE, HAMBURG, NEW YORK.
ALSO, IT CAN BE VIEWED ON THE HAMBURG ON HAMBURG'S WEBSITE@WW.TOWN OF HAMBURG NY.COM.
AND THEN YOU JUST CLICK ON LEGAL NOTICES AND BIDS TO GET TO THIS SPECIFIC REFERENCE.
THEREFORE, PURSUANT TO THE STATUTES AND THE PROVISIONS OF THE MUNICIPAL HOME RULE LAW, THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG WILL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON MARCH THE 22ND, 2021 7:00 PM AT WHICH TIME ALL INTERESTED PERSONS MAY BE HEARD PURSUANT TO THAT NOTICE.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, THIS QUESTION, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.
SECOND IS MS. FARRELL ALL IN FAVOR? A AYE.
ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO DREW RILEY, OUR PLANNER, AND THEN, UH, HE CAN ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
WELL, THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING TONIGHT FOR, UH, COMING OUT.
I APOLOGIZE FOR THE NOTICES, BUT THE NOTICES ARE, STANDARD NOTICES MAY HAVE TO DO, DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION.
SO THERE'S GOTTA BE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
I KNOW SARAH DEJA, DENNIS FIELDED A WHOLE BUNCH OF QUESTIONS FROM PEOPLE JUST NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S BEING DONE.
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AND THROUGH THAT HANDOUT, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE SUPERVISORS KEPT ME UP TO SPEED.UH, THE MALL IS IN RECEIVERSHIP, IT'S BANKRUPT.
UH, THERE'S A RECEIVERSHIP JUDGE THAT HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS AND NOW IS COMING CLOSE TO, WITH THE ENCOURAGEMENT OF THE TOWN.
WE'RE GOING THE MALL UP FOR SALE.
SO, SO WE CAN SEE REUSE THAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO SEE THAT THE MALL NOT FALL INTO COMPLETE, UH, UH, VACANCY AND, AND, AND PROBLEMS ASSOCIATED WITH A LARGE VACANT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
SO WITH THE, THE PROPERTY POTENTIALLY GOING TO SALE IN THE, IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS YEAR, YEAH.
UM, THE TOWN, WHAT CAN THE TOWN DO? THAT'S THE NEXT TIME? WHAT CAN THE TOWN DO? WELL, TOWN CAN'T CONTROL WHO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY.
PEOPLE CAN, PEOPLE CAN PURCHASE THE PROPERTY.
WHAT WE CAN DO, THE TOWN HAS THE POWER OF ZONING, RIGHT? WE ALL KNOW THERE'S ZONING OF A PROPERTY.
THE CURRENT ZONING OF THAT PROPERTY IS COMMERCIAL.
WE ARE NOT PROPOSING, I'LL GET TO LATER, WE ARE NOT PROPOSING TO CHANGE THAT, THAT ZONING OF THE PROPERTY, THE PROPERTY ZONED C TWO.
I MEAN, THINK WE TRIED TO CHANGE SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
THE JUDGE MAY, IT MAY AFFECT THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY THAT MAY GET IN TROUBLE FOR DOING THAT.
SO WE SAID, HELP THAT OPTION'S NOT OUT.
WE'RE NOT GONNA CHANGE THE ZONING OF THE PROPERTY.
SO WE LOOK AT DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR WHAT THE TOWN CAN DO TO HELP ENCOURAGE REDEVELOPMENT AND MAKE SURE IT HAPPENS IN SOMETHING THAT'S BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND WHEN I HEARD SOMEONE SAY THAT I'VE BEEN IN THE BUSINESS FOR 35 YEARS, AND THERE'S A GREAT TOOL OUT THERE.
IT'S AN INCENTIVE ZONING TOOL.
IT'S BASICALLY, IF YOU UNDERSTAND, UH, ZONING IS THE HOURS OF ZONING ARE GIVEN BY THE STATE OF NEW YORK TO LOCAL COMMUNITIES.
THERE'S WHAT THEY CALL ENABLING LEGISLATION.
AND THERE'S A SECTION OF STATE LAW, THE TOWN LAW, WHICH IS STATE LAW, THAT BASICALLY SECTION 2 61 B ALLOWS TOWNS TO USE THIS INCENTIVE ZONING, UH, CATEGORY.
BY THE WAY, INCENTIVE ZONING'S BEEN USED ALL OVER THE STATE.
I MUST, I MUST WORK WITH, WHILE THEY HAVE OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE INCENTIVE ZONING LAWS.
BASICALLY THE INCENTIVE ZONING LAW IN THE STATE GUIDELINES IS VERY GENERAL.
IT BASICALLY KIND OF SAYS THAT, UH, I QUOTED HERE SYSTEMS BY WHICH SPECIFIC INCENTIVES OR BONUSES ARE GRANTED ON CONDITION, THAT SPECIFIC PHYSICAL, SOCIAL OR CULTURAL BENEFIT OR AMENITIES CAN HELP THE COMMUNITY.
AND NEW YORK STATE LAW IS QUITE VAGUE, WELL FLEXIBLE, BUT ALLOWS COMMUNITIES TO CREATE A LAW.
SO WE SAID, HEY, HERE'S A TOOL WE CAN USE.
SO WITHOUT CHANGING THE UNDERLYING ZONING, BUT HOW CAN WE HAVE SOME CONTROL OVER WHAT COULD HAPPEN THERE AND ENCOURAGE WHAT, WHAT COULD HAPPEN THERE? SO THE TOWN CAME UP WITH AN INCENTIVE ZONING LAW.
AND LIKE I SAID, THE MAP WE SENT OUT, THE ONLY PROPERTY WE'RE PUTTING THIS OVERLAY OVER, WHICH IS INCENTIVE ZONING, IS THE EXISTING MALL PROPERTY.
IN THE OUT PARCEL, WE'VE SHOWN THE, THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
I KNOW SOME OF YOU OWN SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, THAT IS NOT CHANGING AT ALL.
THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY ZONING IS NOT CHANGING AT ALL.
WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTOOD WHO WAS BEING IMPACTED BY THIS.
UM, SO WE CREATED THIS INCENTIVE ZONING LAW, AND IT'S BASICALLY GOING TO ALLOW, THERE'S A PROCESS IN HERE.
SO IF I'M A DEVELOPER AND I GO TO PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY, I COULD JUST RE REUSE THEM ALL THE WAY IT IS NOW PERFECTLY ALLOWED.
NO PROBLEMS. THEY COULD, THEY COULD JUST GO FORWARD THAT WAY.
BUT IF THEY'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING CREATIVE, AND WE'VE ALL SEEN WHAT'S HAPPENED WITH EASTERN HILLS MALL AND WITH BOULEVARD MALL AND OTHER MAJOR MALLS IN THE AREA, THERE ARE SOME DEVELOPERS WHO WANT TO DO CREATIVE THINGS TO IT.
WHILE UNDER A NORMAL C TWO ZONING, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO BE CREATIVE.
WE CALL IT IN THE PLANNING BUSINESS.
IT'S VERY
IT SAYS USES, AND THIS IS THE SETBACKS, THESE ARE THE REQUIREMENTS.
AND IF NOT, A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY TO IT.
THIS INCENTIVE ZONING LAW SAYS YOU CAN COME TO THE TOWN BOARD AND SAY, HEY, I HAVE THIS GREAT IDEA TO REDEVELOP THIS PROPERTY.
I'M GONNA COMBINE DO COMBINED USES.
I'M GONNA DO SOME MORE CREATIVE THINGS ON THE PROPERTY THAT NORMALLY WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED ON THEIR C TWO IF THE TOWN BOARD.
AND IN THAT, THE TOWN BOARD'S GONNA SAY, WELL, WHAT BENEFITS ARE YOU PROVIDING TO THE COMMUNITY? THEY'D HAVE TO ENUMERATE THEM BASED ON LAW.
THE TOWN BOARD CONSIDERS THAT ACTION.
HEY, THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT MAY WORK.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE COULD JUST ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN.
THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE TO MAKE FULL APPLICATION.
HE, HE OR SHE WOULD HAVE TO APPEAR AT THE PLANNING BOARD, GET A RECOMMENDATION TO THE PLANNING BOARD, WOULD COME BACK TO THE TOWN BOARD.
TOWN BOARD WOULD CALL THE PUBLIC HEARING, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT.
NOTIFY NEIGHBORS AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
AND GO THROUGH A PROCESS AND, AND TRY TO SEE IF, IF THEY WOULD ALLOW THIS INCENTIVE ZONING TO BE USED.
AND THEN THE TOWN WILL BE ABLE TO WAIVE OR MODIFY SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS IN THE ZONING.
SO HAVE I EXPLAINED THAT? YEAH.
AND, AND I KNOW FOR EXAMPLE, I, I KNOW THEY'RE GONNA BRING IT UP AND I TOLD PEOPLE, PLEASE, THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF PUBLIC HEARING.
ONE GENTLEMAN ASKED, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BUFFERS TO THESE RESIDENTIAL AREAS ARE MAINTAINED.
I DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY OF THE MCKINLEY MALL AND WHAT BUFFERS WERE ALLOWED, BUT YOU COULD INCLUDE THAT IN YOUR LAW AND SAY ALL PROPER BUFFERS ARE MAINTAINED TO SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
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WE'RE HERE, LISTEN TO YOU TONIGHT.YOU ARE THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE AROUND THE MALL AND HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT IT.
SO I'M GONNA SIT DOWN AND YOU CAN DIRECT YOUR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS TO THE TOWN BOARD AND IF I CAN CLARIFY ANYTHING OR, UM, OR THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE CAN, OR ANYBODY ELSE CAN, WE WILL TRY TO HELP BUT TURN IT BACK TO THE TOWN BOARD.
UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? ANY IDEAS OR THOUGHTS? FEEL FREE TO
YEAH, WE GOT, WE GOT FOLKS TUNING IN REMOTELY.
CHARLIE, I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE BUFFER ZONE.
IS IT GONNA REMAIN THE SAME? I SEE ON THE, ON THE, IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THIS MAP, THERE IS A BUFFER ZONE BUILT IN THERE, RIGHT? RIGHT.
BUT OVER HERE WHERE WE ARE, I CAN'T SEE IT.
WELL, IT GOES RIGHT THERE AND THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE A DITCH ALONG THERE.
WHERE'S THIS 15 FOOT EASEMENT MOSTLY.
ISN'T THERE A DITCH THERE, CHARLIE? YES, THERE IS.
UH, OUR, AS DREW, DREW RARELY JUST POINTED OUT WHEN, LET'S SAY THAT A PURCHASER COMES IN WITH A CREATIVE NEW IDEA FOR THAT, RIGHT? WE HAVE TO THEN HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT WE LIKE THIS CREATIVE IDEA, RIGHT? WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO IMPOSE CONDITIONS UPON GRANTING A, AN APPLICATION FOR AN INCENTIVE ZONING PACKAGE.
WE COULD INSIST AT THE TIME THAT THE BUFFERS BE MAINTAINED IN THE SAME STATUS THAT THEY WERE FOR YEARS UNDER THE C TWO DESIGNATION.
SO THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS, WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT IF AND WHEN SOMEONE COMES FORWARD WITH A PROPOSAL FOR REDEVELOPMENT OF THE WALL.
OKAY? 'CAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE WATER PROBLEMS THERE.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS NOISE ISSUE.
IF YOU GOT A, A HOTEL RIGHT BEHIND YOUR HOUSE, FOR INSTANCE, AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE HEARING NOISE IN THE PARKING LOT ALL NIGHT.
AND THE OTHER PROBLEM IS SEWERS.
THERE'S ALREADY SEWER PROBLEMS IN THAT AREA, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU'RE DOING.
SO THE DEC HAD HAD A BIG CASE GOING ON FOR A COUPLE YEARS AGAINST BALL OWNERSHIP OF THE SEWAGE.
BUT ISN'T THIS INCENTIVE ZONE, LIKE, LIKE HE WAS SAYING, IT'S LETTING 'EM SKIRT AROUND CERTAIN THINGS AND PUT OUT CLOSER TO THE PROPERLY LINE OR HELPING CLOSER.
HERE'S, HERE'S THE BIG DEAL ON THIS.
WE'RE SAYING TO A POTENTIAL BUYER, LOOK, IF YOU WANNA DEVELOP THIS COMPLEX AS A SPORTS COMPLEX, WE'RE GONNA LISTEN TO YOU.
WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU A HEARING IF YOU WANNA, UH, DO SENIOR HOUSING OR YOU WANNA DO A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, SOME COMMERCIAL, SOME RESIDENTIAL, UH, WE'RE INTO ALL KINDS OF NEW IDEAS TO SAVE THE MALL AND PICK UP THE PROPERTY VALUE, RIGHT? SO WE'RE INTO THAT.
NOW, IF WE GO AHEAD AND GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO GO FORWARD ON YOUR PLAN, MR. APPLICANT, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO FOR US? THAT'S THE INCENTIVE.
WHAT'S IN IT FOR THE TOWN OF HAMBURG? WHAT'S IN IT FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE ON THE PERIPHERY OF THE MALL? WELL, WHAT'S, WHAT'S, WHAT'S IN IT TO GIVE, TO DO WITH THE, WHY COULDN'T THEY, BUT JUST BUY THE MALL AND COME TO YOU WITH A PLAN AND SAY, LOOK, WE WANNA USE THIS.
WELL, WELL, WHAT WHAT HAPPENED IS IF THEY BOUGHT THE MALL, UH, A A A A BUYER BUYS THE PROPERTIES, WHAT THEY WOULD THEN HAVE TO DO IS MAKE AN APPLICATION FOR REZONING.
NOW, WHAT THAT WOULD THEN MEAN IS THEY'D HAVE TO BUY A CONTINGENT ON GETTING APPROVED.
IF THAT'S, IF IT'S A CERTAIN KIND OF DEVELOPER FOR A CERTAIN LIMITED PURPOSE, THEY MIGHT NOT COME FORWARD BECAUSE THEY DON'T THINK THEY CAN GET IT APPROVED.
AND WE COULDN'T GET FROM THAT DEVELOPER.
SOME OF THE INCENTIVES WE'D LIKE TO GET NECESSARILY, IN OTHER WORDS, IF I'M GONNA LET YOU PUT IN SENIOR HOUSING OR A MEDICAL CENTER THERE, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO FOR US, UH, MR. DEVELOPER, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO FOR THE COMMUNITY? SO THE INCENTIVE ZONING IS KIND OF LIKE A QUID PRO QUO, YOU KNOW.
SO THAT'S THE DI THAT'S THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THAT AND JUST A STRAIGHT APPLICATION TO GO FROM C TWO TO R THREE OR SOME OTHER USAGE? WELL, LIKE, LIKE YOU WERE SAYING, IT'S STILL GONNA BE C TWO ZONING NO MATTER WHAT WITH THE SENATE.
WELL, C TWO IS THE UNDERLYING ZONING, BUT IT'LL BE INCENTIVIZED TO ENABLE AN OPEN DOOR FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF USES ON THE PROPERTY.
A AND I'M NOT SURE, AFTER WE, LET'S ASSUME WE GRANT THAT WE MAY THEN CHANGE OUR CODE TO REFLECT THE NEW USE.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE GOTTA CONSIDER DOWN THE ROAD.
BUT THIS, AND BY THE WAY, SUPERVISOR, THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT POINT.
IF WE HAD OTHER ZONING CATEGORIES THAT WERE MORE CREATIVE AND WHATEVER, YEAH, WE WOULD REZONE THEM ALL TO THAT.
WE'RE NOT GONNA REZONE THIS TO INDUSTRIAL AND WE HAVE LESSER COMMERCIAL ZONES.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING CREATIVE.
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WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THAT, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY THAT HEY, PROPOSE SOMETHING CREATIVE.OBVIOUSLY WE'VE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR, AND I'LL MAKE SURE IT'S NOTED IN HERE THAT IT CAN IMPACT THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTS, BUT THERE ARE OTHER, OTHER BENEFITS AND WHATEVER THAT YOU COULD DO FOR THE TOWN.
SO IT'S JUST A WAY OF, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY ZONING THAT ALLOWS CREATIVITY TO ALLOW CREATIVITY AND MAKE SURE THE TOWN BOARD HAS CONTROL AND TO GET OTHER BENEFITS TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING IT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE TOOLS TO DO SOMETHING CREATIVE.
ORIGINALLY THE BUFFER WAS PUT THERE FOR A REASON.
THAT REASON STILL EXISTS, RIGHT? IT'S FOR NOISE, IT'S FOR WATER, IT'S FOR THE SEWERS.
AND IT SHOULD STAY THERE, IN MY OPINION.
YOU KNOW WHAT, LISTEN, UH, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET ANY ARGUMENT FROM US, I DON'T THINK.
NO, I THINK I JUST WANNA MAKE ONE POINT THOUGH THAT GOES TO YOUR POINT.
IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, THE ARTICLE SECTION ONE 30 DASH TWO, THE SECOND SENTENCE I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND.
IT SAYS, CONSENT MAY THE OFFER TO APPLICANTS WHO OFFER ACCEPTABLE AMENITIES AND IMPROVEMENTS TO THE TOWN IN EXCHANGE FOR THE INCENTIVE.
SO WHAT, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF THEY COME TO US AND IT IS ACTUALLY A DETRIMENT TO THE RESIDENTS, IT'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE, UM, LESS APPEALING AS OPPOSED TO MORE APPEALING.
I FEEL PRETTY STRONGLY THAT OUR BOARD WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE CREATE, UH, INCENTIVES ONLY IF THEY IMPROVE OR MAINTAIN WHAT WE HAVE FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE ADJOINING.
UH, AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE, UH, A DECREASE IN, IN, UH, WHAT WE NEED.
I THINK PART, PART OF THE FREEDOM THIS ALSO IS THAT, UH, SOMEONE WHO'S INTERESTED IN PURCHASING THIS PROPERTY, IF THEY KNOW THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE REALLY KNUCKLED INTO C TWO, THAT'S IT.
IT MIGHT LIMIT WHO BIDS AND POSSIBLY PURCHASES THE PROPERTY.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH ALL OF EASTERN HILLS, HOW THEY'RE CREATING A VILLAGE AND A MIXED USE AND EVERYTHING.
WELL, AS IT SITS DOWN, WE CAN'T DO THAT.
WHERE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA ALLOW THAT POSSIBLY TO HAPPEN, BUT WE HAVE CONTROL ON.
WELL THAT, THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR EVERYBODY.
BUT AGAIN, IF WE GOT LIKE WATER AND SEWAGE AND STUFF COMING IN OUR YARD, A DUMPSTER COMING AT TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, THAT'S NOT GOOD.
ANYBODY ELSE? FOLKS WANNA TALK ON THIS, ON THIS PARTICULAR QUESTION? YES, MA'AM.
HOW ARE YOU? HI, I'M KEVIN RUPERT ON, ON HORTON AVENUE.
UM, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK ABOUT WHEN YOU DO TAKE THIS PROPOSAL IS THAT THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY NO SIDEWALKS WHATSOEVER AND NO SHOULDERS OF ROADS FOR ANYBODY TO WALK OR RIDE A BIKE.
I'VE WATCHED KIDS WALK INTO THE MALL TO GET TO WORK, WALK INTO
THOSE ARE THE TWO AREAS THAT DON'T, BUT YOU'VE GOT ALL OF SOUTHWESTERN FROM HERE TO KINGDOM COMMON WITH, WITH SIDEWALKS.
PUT THAT INTO CONSIDERATION BECAUSE I KNOW MY KIDS, I HAD TO DRIVE 'EM BECAUSE I WASN'T GONNA LET 'EM WALK TO GET TO THEIR WORK AT WEGMAN'S OR MALL.
THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT TO US.
UH, I WORK WITH ALLOCATE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY.
WE OWN THIS PIECE HERE AT THE CORNER WHERE YOU HAVE A WENDY'S MONGOLIAN BUFFET.
SO RIGHT AT THE CORNER OF MILES STRIP IN MCKINLEY.
THERE'S A VACANT OUT PARCEL HERE THAT'S STILL OWNED BY AYAS THAT'S BEEN AVAILABLE FOREVER.
IT'S GOT SOME CHALLENGES TO DEVELOPING IT.
IT'S ADJACENT TO THE MALL, ADJACENT TO OUR PROPERTY.
IT'S RIGHT AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE MALL.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE CHANGED, COULD BE INCLUDED IN HERE TO PROVIDE MORE FLEXIBILITY AS TO WHAT CAN BE DONE WITH THAT PROPERTY.
UM, WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH AYA.
WE'RE PROBABLY THE ONLY DEVELOPERS THAT CAN EVEN DEVELOP THAT PROPERTY.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT RIGHT HERE? YES.
SO THAT, THAT'S IN THE EAST OF THE MONGOLIAN BUFFET.
IT'S RIGHT AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE MALL.
BUT WITH THE RESIDENTIAL ZONE, NOBODY'S EVER GONNA DEVELOP THAT RESIDENTIAL.
ALRIGHT, THAT'S A VERY GOOD SUGGESTION.
SO, I MEAN, IF IT COULD BE ADDED TO THIS INCENTIVE ZONING, UM, EITHER THAT OR YOU'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH A FULL BLOWN REZONING OF THAT PROPERTY YEAH.
IN ORDER TO DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH IT.
BUT IT'D BE HELPFUL TO KNOW NOW UPFRONT.
WHETHER A BOARD'S IN FAVOR OF EITHER REZONING THAT OR INCLUDING THAT.
I'M I I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT IT UP 'CAUSE IT NEVER OCCURRED TO ME.
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OTHER BOARD MEMBERS.UH, DREW, UH, MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN CONSIDER.
WE'RE HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING.
I TOLD GENTLEMEN I HAD TO DO SOME RESEARCH.
I HAD TO FIGURE OUT WHY IT WAS DONE AND WHY THAT PIECE WAS LEFT THERE AND LEFT ZONE RESIDENTIAL.
'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY NO ONE'S GONNA PUT A HOUSE.
MAYBE WE COULD DO AN AMENDMENT TO, TO THE LOCAL.
IF THERE'S NOT SOME RESTRICTION ALREADY ON THIS, WE COULD ADD THAT IN AS THEY ARE PART OF THE INCENTIVE BUILDING.
THAT BE THE SAME WITH THIS? YEAH.
ANY, UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN? ANYBODY ELSE ON THIS QUESTION? NO.
BILL STATE LIVE AROUND KINS ROAD.
JUST, UH, WE'VE TALKED MR. HAW.
ALL SO HE BROUGHT UP THAT RESIDENTIAL ADDRESS.
I LIVE, I LIVE OVER ON DICKENS AND TRAFFIC'S ALREADY A NIGHTMARE.
LIKE THE YOUNG LADY SAID, YOU, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GONNA CHANGE UP THE AREA THERE ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE TO TRY TO INCLUDE THAT INTO THE MALL.
I DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS ACTUALLY ON THE AGENDA TODAY, BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU TRY TO CHANGE THAT FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL, YOU KNOW YOU'RE GONNA CREATE MORE TRAFFIC.
BRING YOU WOULD BE CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT HE OH YEAH.
YOU, HE'S TALKING ABOUT THIS PARCEL RIGHT HERE.
I DON'T, THERE I, I LIVE HERE THOUGH.
WE ALREADY GOT PIZZA HUT GOING IN.
DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
BUT, BUT THE PIZZA HUT HAS FO HAS FOLDED ITS STENT.
UH, AND YOU'VE GOT, UH, I THINK, UH, SOME HEALTH CENTER OF SOME KIND GO PROPOSE TO GO IN ON THAT CORNER, RIGHT? CORRECT.
SO WE'RE GONNA BRING MORE TRAFFIC IN, BUT IF YOU TAKE THAT EXTRA BUFFER OUT, IF YOU PUT ANOTHER COMMERCIAL THING, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE MM-HMM
MULTIPLE EXTRA CARS THAT THERE IS A LACK OF A, A CROSSWALK, PROPER SAFETY BARRIERS FOR CHILDREN WALKING THE STREET.
MY DAUGHTER WALKED AWAY'S TODAY, I CAN TELL YOU, I'M SURE SHE TOOK HER, YOU KNOW, HAD TO USE HER CAUTION, BUT DEFINITELY THE LACK OF SIDEWALKS.
BUT THAT'S GONNA BRING IN MORE VEHICLES OVER INTO THAT WHOLE CORRIDOR.
WHICH IS, YOU GUYS, YOU GUYS ARE GONNA GO WITH WHATEVER YOU FEEL, BUT THERE'S LACK OF SPACING, LACK OF, UH, WELL, UH, AS, AS THIS, THE GENTLEMAN WHO SPOKE BEFORE YOU POINTED OUT IT'S SOMETHING WHEN WE DID THIS, UH, DRAFT OF THE, OF THE LOCAL LAW, I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT VACANT PARCEL TO THE EAST OF THE MONGOLIAN BUFFET.
NOW I'M, WE'RE NOT SAYING BECAUSE IT'S NOW VACANT.
WE'RE GONNA KEEP AN OPEN MIND AND IF ANYTHING HAPPENS, WE MAY HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER HEARING.
YOU GOTTA BRING IN MORE TRAFFIC.
YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WE COULD BRING UP TOO IS LET'S SAY, YOU KNOW, PERFECT WORLD TO THE MALL, SOMEONE BUYS IT, THEY'RE GONNA DEVELOP SOMETHING.
YOU COULD POSSIBLY CHANGE THAT ENTRANCE AND CHANGE THINGS OVER THERE TO HELP THAT.
SO CERTAIN CERTAINLY A POSSIBILITY TOO.
BUT WITH THAT ENTRANCE INTO THE MALL WHERE THAT HITS YEAH.
TERING FROM MILE STRIP TO THE MILE STRIP EXTENSION, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S ALREADY SOMETIMES DICEY.
WELL LISTEN, THAT'S, WE GOTTA TAKE THAT UNDER CONSIDERATION.
NONE OF THESE ISSUES ARE EASILY RESOLVED LIKE THAT.
THEY ALL HAVE SOME PROS AND CONS.
AND JUST A CLARIFICATION, RIGHT NOW, THE LAW DOES NOT INCLUDE THAT PROPERTY.
THE GENTLEMAN HAS ASKED FOR US TO LOOK.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AS IT RELATES TO THE MCKINLEY HALL INCENTIVE ZONING PROJECT.
LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE.
THIS IS THE 18 MILE CREEK, UH, PROTECTION LOCAL LAW.
PLEASE TAKE NOTICE THAT THERE HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO THE TOWN BOARD ON MARCH 8TH, 2021, PURSUANT TO MUNICIPAL HOME RULE LAW, A PROPOSED LOCAL LAW TO BE KNOWN AS THE PROPO, AS PROPOSED LOCAL LAW NUMBER 2, 20 21 SAID, LOCAL LAW PROVIDES FOR AMENDMENTS TO THE HAMBURG TOWN CODE.
IN THE FOLLOWING CHAPTERS AND SECTIONS, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS ARE IN ACCORDANCE WITH RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE TOWN CONSERVATION ADVISORY BOARD.
THE AMENDMENTS CAN BE DESCRIBED AS FOLLOWS.
THE FOLLOWING CODE REVISIONS HAVE BEEN RECOMMENDED BY THE HAMBURG CODE REVIEW COMMITTEE AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT FOR ADOPTION BY THE TOWN OF HAMBURG.
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FIRST AMENDS THE HAMBURG TOWN CODE PART TWO GENERAL LEGISLATION BY ADDING A NEW CHAPTER 1 0 6 ENTITLED QUOTE, 18 MILE CREEK, UH, PROTECTION END QUOTE.A DETAILED COPY OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC REVIEW DURING REGULAR BUSINESS HOURS AT THE FOLLOWING TWO LOCATIONS, HAMBURG TOWN HALL, TOWN CLERK'S OFFICE, UPPER LEVEL AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT, LOWER LEVEL AT 6,100 SOUTH PARK AVENUE, AND ALSO ON THE HAMBURG'S WEBSITE@WWW.TOWN OF HAMBURG NY.COM.
THEREFORE, PURSUANT TO THE STATUTES AND PROVISIONS OF THE MUNICIPAL HOME RULE LAW, THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG WILL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON 3 22 21 AT 7:00 PM AT WHICH TIME ALL INTERESTED PERSONS MAY BE HEARD.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE OPEN THE PUBLIC, UH, HEARING ON THE 18 MILE CREEK PROTECTION LAW.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND.
HOPE I THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ALRIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'RE IN BUSINESS ON THIS.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO OUR PLANNER, DREW RILEY TO TALK WITH YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS.
DOES ANYBODY NEED A COPY OF THIS LAW? OKAY, WELL I'M HEADING IT OUT RIGHT NOW.
HISTORY OF THIS IS THE TOWN FORMED A CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL AREA UNDER THE STATE'S LAW, ALLOWS YOU TO CREATE A CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL AREA THAT WAS DONE, I THINK OVER 35 YEARS AGO, DESIGNATED 18 CREEK OF THE CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL AREA.
AND AFTER THEY DID THAT, THE TOWN DID MAKE CHANGES TO THE FRONT END OF THEIR ZONING ORDERS.
THE FRONT END OF THE ZONING ORDERS HAS SOME LANGUAGE ABOUT CONSERVATION AREAS, WHICH INCLUDES THE A TMI CREEK AREA.
OVER THE YEARS THAT PART OF THE ZONING LAW HAS BECOME OUTDATED, DIFFICULT TO WORK WITH, VERY DIFFICULT TO WORK WITH.
CONSERVATION BOARD KNOWS, UH, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT KNOWS THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS, KNOWS, GETS LOTS OF APPEAL CASES BECAUSE OF THAT, THAT FRONT END OF THAT ZONING ORDINANCE.
WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TONIGHT IS A SEPARATE SECTION.
THAT'S ONE THING I HAVE TO TELL YOU.
THIS IS NOT IN THE ZONING CODE, SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO BE APPEALED TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS.
IT SETS SOME RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR EXACT, FOR DEVELOPING THINGS ALONG THE 18 MILE CREEK, UH, AREA.
IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE ZONING OF ANY SITE.
IT JUST SAYS IT BASICALLY AFFECTS PEOPLE WHO ARE GONNA CONSTRUCT STRUCTURES IN GROUND POOLS, POLE BARN, THINGS THAT DON'T COME TO THE, TYPICALLY COME TO THE PLANNING BOARD.
CLEAR CUTTING OF TREES, OIL DISTURBANCE, PLACEMENT OF FILL AND CLEARING OF VEGETATION HAS SOME RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT, AND IT ACTUALLY HAS A PROCESS NOT TO ADD YOUR WORKLOAD, BUT THE PROCESS, INSTEAD OF GOING TO THE ZONING BOARD, APPEALS WOULD BE IF SOMEONE SAYS, HEY, I GOTTA DO SOMETHING THERE.
AND THE BUILDING INSPECTOR SAYS, NOT ALLOWED UNDER THE LAW.
THEY BELIEVE IT WAS EXTENDING CIRCUMSTANCES, THEY CAN COME TO THE TOWN BOARD AND MAKE AN APPEAL TO YOU SAYING THERE'S EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES FOR ME HAVING TO BUILD THIS SHED AT THIS LOCATION OR THIS OTHER STRUCTURE ALONG THE 18 MILE CREEK WATER SHED.
SO 18 MILE CREEK KILLER HARBOR.
SO AGAIN, IT'S A LAW THAT OUTLINES A, A PROCEDURE OUTSIDE THE ZONING COORDINATE AND BASICALLY SAYS THIS IS THE REQUIREMENT.
WE'RE NOT REALLY ADDING MUCH NEW, THERE ARE SOME OTHER CRITERIA IN HERE, BUT IT IS IN THE ZONING LAW NOW.
BUT IT REFERS TO OUTDATED MAPS.
IT HAS A VERY CONVOLUTED PROCESS OF PLANNING BOARD AND CDAS AND CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICE FOR DIFFERENT ACTIONS.
WE TRY TO CONSOLIDATE UNDER, UNDER ONE LAW HERE.
AND I KNOW THERE'S REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CONSERVATION BOARD HERE TONIGHT WHO IS HIGHLY INSTRUMENTAL IN SAYING, HEY, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING HERE AND REPRESENTATION OF THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT BECAUSE I POINTED OUT YOU'RE THE ONE THAT'S GONNA BE ENFORCING ALL THIS.
IT IS YOU AND THE TOWN BOARD IF THERE'S AN APPEAL PROCESS.
SO WE'RE HERE TO SEE IF ANYBODY HAS ANY COMMENTS ON THE LAW TRYING TO MAKE IT BETTER AND THE BEST WE CAN USE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
WHAT DO YOU SAY LADIES AND GENTLEMEN? ANYBODY HERE WANNA DISCUSS THIS? UH, ANY ISSUES, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS? WELL, WE HAD A QUESTION.
THIS, THIS IS OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT, UH, BOSS ROGER GIBSON.
WHILE WE REVIEWED THIS, UH, WE WEREN'T QUITE SURE THAT, UH, RESIDENTS WOULD, UH, OR THE TOWN BOARD WOULD WANT TO BE THE, UH, AUTHORITY TO EITHER GRANT VARIANCES OR APPROVALS ON, YOU KNOW, PLACING STRUCTURES OR WORK WITHIN THE 60 FOOT, UH, DISTANCE FROM THE TOP.
YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY IF SOMEBODY'S PLANNING ON A TOOL SHED AND THEY WERE, WERE PROPOSING A TOOL SHED TO BE 40 FEET FROM THE BANK, THEY WERE ABLE TO MAKE APPLICATION AND GO TO THE TOWN ZONING BOARD.
SO IN THIS CASE, IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, ANYTHING LIKE THAT WOULD COME BEFORE THE TOWN BOARD.
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OKAY.WELL, I, I'M NOT SO SURE WE WANNA DO THAT EITHER
AND THEN SOME OF THE OTHER, UH, ISSUES THAT ARE POINTED OUT HERE WITH THE REGULATED ACTIVITIES MM-HMM
UH, WE FEEL A LOT OF THESE ARE REALLY DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE.
YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY WANTS TO CLEAR VEGETATION WITHIN 60 FEET OF A BANK IN THEIR BACKYARD OR, UH, ADD TOPSOIL.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT 10 CUBIC YARDS OF TOPSOIL.
UM, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW THE DEC REGULATES, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THIS WITH THE CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL AREA, UH, WE BASICALLY REACT TO COMPLAINTS AT THIS POINT.
THOSE WERE PRETTY MUCH OUR OKAY.
AND JUST, JUST A STATEMENT, ROGER, I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS.
THE, THE DEC HAS NO REGULATORY POWER IN THE CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL AREA.
IT'S A DESIGNATION THAT YOU MADE, UH, THE TOWN MADE AND THEN CAN, THE TOWN CAN ADOPT RULES AND REGULATIONS WITHIN THAT CEA, THE STATE, THE ONLY THING THE STATE SAYS IN A CEA IS THAT YOU HAVE FOR ANY ACTION, YOU ANY ACTION THAT INVOLVES SEEKER, YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER THE ISSUES IN THAT WERE DEVELOPED IN DEVELOPING YOUR CEA, WHICH WAS PROTECTION OF THE WATER QUALITY OF THE CREEK, ET CETERA.
SO THE TOWN THEN ADOPTED A WALL BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT CAN ENFORCE IT.
AND THAT'S WHAT'S IN THE FRONT END OF THE ZONING OUT.
WE ARE TRYING TO DO A JOB TO TRY TO CREATE A WALL THAT IS MORE WORKABLE.
OBVIOUSLY IT SOUNDS LIKE WE MAY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF WORK TO DO, BUT A MORE WORK WORKABLE LAW YEAH.
SO, SO IF SOMEBODY VIOLATES AT THIS POINT, ARE THERE NO DEC FINES THAT THEY WOULD NOPE, THERE'S NOTHING INVOLVED WITH THAT.
UNLESS THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING LIKE DOING A LEGAL DISCHARGE OR SOMETHING TO THE CREEK THAT THE DEC REGULATES.
BUT THE CEA, THERE ARE NO RULES AND REGULATIONS.
THE STATE OF NEW YORK, IT'S YOUR DECISION TO CREATE IT A CEA AND YOUR DECISION TO SET RULES AND REGULATIONS ABOUT WHAT CAN HAPPEN WITHIN THAT CEA.
ARE YOU RECOMMENDING, UH, POSSIBLY THAT WE TAKE A LOOK AT WHERE IT SAYS YOU'RE PROHIBITED WITHIN 60 FEET.
ARE YOU RECOMMENDING THAT WE POSSIBLY ADJUST THAT OR WELL, I WAS RECOMMENDING OR CONFIRMING THAT THE PROCESS OF SOMEBODY WANTED TO CONSTRUCT SOMETHING WITHIN THE 60 FEET THAT, YOU KNOW, THOSE ACTIVITIES ARE BASICALLY GONNA BE BEFORE THE TOWN BOARD FOR APPROVAL.
AND I'M NOT SO SURE THOSE ACTIVITIES ARE, ARE, YOU WOULD HAVE TO SAY NO IN ACCORDANCE TO THIS LAW.
IF THEY HAD EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES, THEY COULD APPEAL.
OTHERWISE YOU MAKE A DECISION.
I THINK WHAT ROGER'S SAYING, AND I I KNOW THAT WAS THE DIFFICULT PART.
THE FIRST TWO ITEMS THAT ARE BEING REGULATED, THE CONSTRUCTION OF NEWER PERMANENT STRUCTURES, THEY HAVE TO COME TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, GET A BUILDING PERMIT, HE DENY THAT BUILDING BROKEN.
THE SECOND ONE, ANYTHING CLEAR? CUTTING.
WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A LAW ABOUT CLEAR CUTTING TREES AND TAKING TREES DOWN.
HE'S, YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THAT.
WHAT ROGER'S CONCERNED ABOUT, I UNDERSTAND THAT IS SOIL DISTURBANCE OVER 10 CUBIC YARDS, PLACEMENT OF FILLER EXCAVATION AND CLEARING OF VEGETATION.
THERE'S REALLY NO PERMANENT APPLICATION OR ANYTHING.
SOMEONE WOULD HAVE TO CALL AND COMPLAIN RIGHT.
TO ROGER THAT SOMETHING'S BEING DONE NOT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THIS LAW.
YOU REALIZE THESE, THE FIRST TWO THINGS, YOU NEED A PERMIT OR APPROVAL FROM THE TOWN.
THE OTHER THINGS ARE GREAT THINGS TO SAY, BUT THE ONLY WAY THEY'RE GONNA BE ENFORCED IS SOMEONE PICKING UP THE FACT THAT SOMEONE IS DOING ONE OF THESE ITEMS AND THEN MAKING A COMPLAINT TO THE, TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WOULD GO OUT AND FORCE IT.
SAY THEY WERE FOUND OUT THAT THEY WERE DISTURBING 15, UH, SOIL DISTURBANCE OF OVER 15 CUBIC YARDS.
ROGER WOULD'VE TO SAY, YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
IF THIS GUY SAID, HEY, I REALLY HAVE TO DO THIS BECAUSE I NEED IT.
THEY HAVE TO APPEAL THAT TO THE TOWN BOARD TO SAY, HEY, THERE'S EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES, THEN YOU WOULD ALLOW, ALLOW THAT PROCESS TO GO FORWARD.
THAT'S WHAT THE LAW IS RIGHT NOW.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT'S WHAT THE LAW SAYS.
SO ANYTIME THEY'RE NOT MEETING THESE THINGS, THEY, THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN DO THEM, THEY CAN'T ASK ROGER, OH PLEASE.
OR THEY HAVE TO COME TO YOU AND SAY, THERE'S SOME REASON WHY I'M DOING THIS AND HAVE TO DO IT.
NOW YOU CAN HAVE A DIFFERENT APPEAL PROCESS.
YOU HAVE THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS.
YOU COULD STATE ANYBODY, BUT THIS IS NOT THE ZONING LAW.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO GO TO THE ZONING LAW.
YOU'D HAVE TO DESIGNATE SOMEBODY ELSE.
THAT COULD BE, YOU COULD DESIGNATE AN INDIVIDUAL, YOU COULD DESIGNATE A DEPARTMENT, YOU COULD DESIGNATE ANOTHER BOARD, BUT YOU'D HAVE TO DESIGNATE THAT IN THIS LAW.
ANYTHING ELSE, ROGER, ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA ADD? NO, I THINK THAT COVERS IT.
ANYBODY ELSE THAT I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THIS, UH, UH, PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 18 MILE CREEK PROTECTION LAW.
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ALL FAIR.UH, LET ME UH, READ THE NOTICE AND THEN WE'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CONVENE THE HEARING ON THIS ONE.
UH, IT IS AS FOLLOWS, PLEASE TAKE NOTICE THAT THERE HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO THE TOWN BOARD ON 3 8 21 PURSUANT TO MUNICIPAL HOME RULE LAW.
A PROPOSED LOCAL LAW TO BE KNOWN AS PROPOSED LOCAL LAW.
NUMBER ONE, UH, FOR 2021 SAID LOCAL LAW PROVIDES FOR AN AMENDMENT OF LOCAL LAW NUMBER 10 OF 1986, CHAPTER TWO 80 ENTITLED ZONING AND PROVIDE SUBSTANTIALLY AS FOLLOWS FOR THE ADOPTION OF AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING CODE TO REZONE 16.4 ACRES OF VACANT LAND, A PORTION OF SBL NUMBER 1 60 19 DASH TWO DASH 1.1, LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF BIG TREE ROAD EAST OF 4 2 5 5 MCKINLEY PARKWAY FROM C ONE LOCAL RETAIL DISTRICT TO OUR THREE MULTIPLE FAMILY DISTRICT IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT A MULTIPLE FAMILY PROJECT THAT INCLUDES 104 ATTACHED UNITS.
THEREFORE, PURSUANT TO THE STATUTES AND PROVISIONS OF THE MUNICIPAL HOME RULE LAW, THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG WILL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON MARCH 22ND, 2021 AT 7:00 PM AT WHICH TIME ALL INTERESTED PERSONS MAY BE HEARD AND MAKE A MOTION THEN TO CONVENE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS REZONING APPLICATION.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND.
SECOND IS MS. FERRELL, UH, ON THE QUESTION.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, DOES ANYONE CARE TO SPEAK ON THIS QUESTION? DREW RILEY WILL LET YOU GO FIRST.
THIS IS A MORE NORMAL PUBLIC HEARING.
IT'S ABOUT A REZONING WHERE SOMEONE'S PETITION THE TOWN TO REZONE PROPERTY.
ONE THING I HAVE TO NOTE, AND I APOLOGIZE, I DIDN'T SEE THE, THE NOTICE AHEAD OF TIME.
UH, IT IS FOR THE ORIGINAL REZONING APPLICATION.
IT'S NOT FOR THE PROPOSED CHANGE ONE.
SO WE ARE, AND BY THE WAY, THIS PROCESS WILL WORK BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I'LL GIVE YOU THE BACKGROUND.
FIRST OF ALL, THE, THE FUNDING BOARD HAS ASKED FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING SO THEY CAN GET INPUT TO HELP IN THEIR SECRET DECISION AND THEIR DECISION ON THE PROJECT.
IT'S GOTTA COME BACK TO THE TOWN BOARD ANYWAY.
AND I'M SORRY TO TELL YOU, YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO HOLD ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE THE NOTICE WASN'T EXACTLY GREAT.
UH, IT DID NOT REPRESENT EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON.
WHAT HAPPENED ON THIS PROJECT WAS THE APPLICANT FIRST CAME TO REZONE THE PROPERTY THAT WAS DISCUSSED IN THE PUBLIC NOTICE TO CONSTRUCT JUST A MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
UH, AND WELL ACTUALLY NO, THIS ONE'S RIGHT ISN'T IT? IS THIS NO, IT'S NOT RIGHT.
THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL WAS A COMBINATION OF MULTI-FAMILY AND SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
AND THAT DIDN'T GO OVER WELL UH, WITH THE, WITH UH, WITH THE NEIGHBORS IN THE AREA.
IT WAS A DEVELOPMENT THAT HAD HAD MULTIFAMILY AND RESIDENTIAL CONNECTING TO THE ADJOINING TO MAKA DRIVE, I BELIEVE WILSON DRIVE, EXCUSE ME.
UM, SO THE APPLICANT THEN REVISED THAT REZONING APPLICATION AND THAT'S WHERE I'M GETTING CONFUSED HERE.
REVISE THAT APPLICATION TO INCLUDE A LARGER AREA FOR MULTIFAMILY BUT ELIMINATING ALL THE SINGLE FAMILY AND PRESENTING A BUFFER.
THE APPLICANT'S GONNA GET INTO THE SPECIFICS OF THAT AND I APOLOGIZE, HE'S GONNA DO THE SPECIFICS.
WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THE APPLICATION THAT'S BEFORE US NOW, WHICH IS THIS REZONING FOR PART OF THE PROPERTY.
THAT'S WHAT WASN'T RIGHT IN ANYTHING.
PART OF THE PROPERTY IS REZONING FROM C ONE TO TO UH, R THREE, R THREE AND THEN THE BACK PART OF THE PROPERTY PORTION OF IT IS A REZONING FROM R ONE TO R THREE.
SO THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO THAT WAS THE PROBLEM.
THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO PARTS THAT ARE BEING REZONED.
IT WASN'T THE FACT THAT THEY'RE JUST DOING MULTIFAMILY.
ALRIGHT, SO THE INTERESTING PART ABOUT THIS IS WHEN THE PLANNING BOARD IS LOOKING AT THIS, THE PLANNING BOARD HAS TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE TOWN BOARD.
THE PLANNING BOARD HAS PEOPLE WHO ARE, WHO ARE IN THAT AREA OF THE TOWN KNOW THAT THE ADJOINING PROPERTY TO THE, JUST TO THE EAST OF THIS OFF OF PARKER ROAD HAS A SUBDIVISION PROPOSED AUDIT.
AND THE PLANNING BOARD AND THAT AND THAT PART IS THE REVIEWER AND APPROVAL OF THAT SUBDIVISION.
THEIR CONCERN WAS THAT AND, AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THAT AREA.
WHEN YOU HAVE THESE TWO PROJECTS TOGETHER, WHAT IS THE CUMULATIVE IMPACT OF THESE TWO PROJECTS TOGETHER? WE'RE NOT HAVING A TOWN BOARD JUST CONSIDER THE REZONING AND THE PLANNING BOARD, JUST CONSIDERING THE SUBDIVISION, THE PLANNING BOARD SAID, HEY, TOWN BOARD HAD THIS PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE WE WANT TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.
AND B, THE PLANNING BOARD WANTS TO DO SEEKER LOOKING AT THE CUMULATIVE IMPACTS OF BOTH, BOTH PRO PROPERTIES.
SO THE, THE TOWN BOARD HAS ALLOWED THAT AND IS HOLDING THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
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CAN HEAR WHO DOESN'T HOLD PUBLIC HEARINGS ON REZONINGS, CAN HEAR WHAT THE PUBLIC HAS TO SAY.MAKE THE REPORT COMPLETE SEEKER SO THEN YOU CAN MAKE AN ULTIMATE DECISION.
IT IS THIS BOARD'S ULTIMATE DECISION ON A REZONING.
IT'S NOT THE PLANNING BOARD, NOT WHATEVER.
THIS BOARD CAN EITHER REZONE THE PROPERTY, REZONE IT WITH CONDITIONS AND THE APPLICANT'S GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT OR THEY CAN DENY THE REZONING.
YOU, YOU'VE APPROVED REZONINGS, YOU'VE DESIGNED REZONING FOR THE PLANNING BOARD AND EVERYBODY'S GOTTA PUT THIS INFORMATION TOGETHER.
I'VE TALKED ENOUGH, I'M GONNA LET THE APPLICANT TALK ABOUT SPECIFICS OF THE PROJECT.
I DON'T TALK ABOUT THE GENERIC OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE, BUT THIS IS A SPECIFIC REZONING WITH A SPECIFIC PROJECT IN MIND.
MY NAME IS SEAN HOPKINS FROM THE LAW FIRM OF HOPKINS, GEORGE MCCARTHY ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT WETZEL DEVELOPMENT LLC.
UM, ALSO WITH ME THIS EVENING IS GLEN WETZEL.
BEFORE I BEGIN, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF HANDOUTS IF YOU DON'T MIND IF I START, IF THEY CAN JUST GO AROUND, MAY I GET IT AROUND? THE FIRST ONE IS A LETTER WHICH I'LL TALK ABOUT IN A SECOND.
THE SECOND ONE, WHICH I'LL ALSO SHOW YOU THIS, WHICH SHOWS YELLOW.
THIS IS THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL THAT DREW WAS MENTIONING AND I'LL ALSO BE PRESENTING THAT FULL SIZE.
AND THEN FINALLY THIS ONE THAT SHOWS ABOUT HALF OF THE SITE BEING PRESERVED AS GREEN SPACE.
I DO WANNA NOTE BEFORE I BEGIN A COUPLE THINGS.
NUMBER ONE, UM, I AGREE WITH DREW.
THE NOTICE DOES NEED TO INCLUDE THE ADDITIONAL SIX ACRES.
THANKFULLY NOT A BIG DEAL 'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE PLANNING BOARD STILL ULTIMATELY HAS TO ISSUE RECOMMENDATION TO YOU.
SO WHEN THERE'S A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, IF THAT COULD BE INCLUDED IN THE NOTICE, THAT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.
SECOND OF ALL, I DO WANNA REITERATE, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE RESIDENTS THAT ARE HERE, WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANY DECISION FROM THIS BOARD THIS EVENING.
UH, THIS IS TO RECEIVE PUBLIC INPUT.
WE'LL GO BACK TO THE PLANNING BOARD AND THEN ON A FUTURE DATE IT'LL COME BACK IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD FOR AN ADDITIONAL PUBLIC HEARING AND A DECISION.
THE SITE ITSELF IS APPROXIMATELY 42 ACRES IN SIZE JUST TO ACCLIMATE EVERYONE.
THIS IS BIG TREE HERE, MCKINLEY, WHICH IS OVER ON THE LEFT.
AND THEN WILSON DRIVE THAT WINDS THROUGH HERE.
THAT IS AKKA LANE, WHICH DREW MENTIONED IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT CURRENTLY ALONG WILSON DRIVE YOU HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT BACK UP TO AN AREA TO A LARGE DEGREE WHILE IT'S ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY HAS REMAINED UNDEVELOPED.
SO GOING BACK TO LATE LAST SUMMER, WE STARTED WITH THIS PLAN IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING BOARD.
BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING AT THAT TIME WAS TO REZONE 16.4 ACRES OF THE SITE, WHICH IS CURRENTLY ZONED C ONE, WHICH OBVIOUSLY A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
OH, YOU WANT ME TO TURN IT? WE HAVE MAPS.
YEAH, I WAS WONDERING IF I SHOULD.
JUST LET ME KNOW IF I'M NOT SPEAKING ENOUGH THAT EVERYONE CAN.
YEAH, SO THIS IS THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL FOR EVERYONE REZONING ORIGINALLY LAST SUMMER GOING ALL THE WAY TILL FALL TILL OCTOBER 7TH.
WE WERE ASKING FOR CONSIDERATION OF REZONING 16.4 ACRES OF THE 42 ACRES SITE FROM C ONE, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY A COMMERCIAL ZONING BLOCK STATION TO R THREE.
IN ADDITION, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING ON THE REMAINDER OF THE SITE, WHICH CURRENTLY TODAY IS OWNED R ONE WITH A SUBDIVISION.
THAT SUBDIVISION WOULD'VE CONSISTED OF 18 LOTS AND WOULD'VE CONNECTED INTO WILSON DRIVE DIRECTLY OPPOSITE OF WHERE TO NOT THE FORMS OF T INTERSECTION WITH WILSON DRIVE.
KEEP IN MIND THERE'S A STUB STREET THERE AND THERE'S A STUB STREET ALSO UP FURTHER ON WILSON DRIVE AS YOU GO CLOSER TO MCKINLEY BASED ON SOME INPUT WE RECEIVED.
AND WE INITIALLY PRESENTED THIS INCLUDING SOME NEARBY PROPERTY OWNERS ON BOTH WILSON DRIVE AND TANAKA.
AND ALSO BASED ON SOME INPUT RECEIVED FROM THE PLANNING BOARD THAT REVIEWED THIS PROJECT.
OVER THE COURSE OF AT LEAST A HALF DOZEN MEETINGS, WE CHANGED THE LAYOUT.
SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING THEN.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THIS WAS THE PROPOSAL AT THAT TIME.
AND THEN THIS IS THE CURRENT PROPOSAL.
SO WHAT WE DID LARGELY IN RESPONSE TO THE APRIL WE RECEIVED, ESPECIALLY FROM THE HOMEOWNERS ON WILSON DRIVE, WHICH ARE HERE, WE ELIMINATED THE SUBDIVISION.
SO THE 18 LOT SUBDIVISION ON THAT PLAN THAT HAS AGREED HIGHLIGHTING IS GONE.
THAT'S GONE DESPITE THE FACT IT IS PERMITTED THERE.
AND THE SITE WAS UM, DEVELOPED IN SUCH A WAY THAT WOULD ENCOURAGE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
AGAIN, THERE WERE STUMP STREETS THAT WERE DELIBERATELY LEFT PROVIDE FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THAT SITE.
SO THAT PORTION OF THE SITE, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 20.1 ACRES OF THE 42 ACRES AND INCLUDES EVERY SINGLE PORTION OF THE SITE THAT BACKS UP TO A HOME ON WILSON DRIVE WILL NEVER BE DEVELOPED.
WE'RE AGREEING HERE AND NOW THAT WE'LL REPORT A DECLARATION OF RESTRICTIONS
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AT THE ERIE COUNTY COURT'S OFFICE IF THE PROJECT IS ULTIMATELY APPROVED.TO ENSURE THERE WILL NEVER BE ANY DEVELOPMENT.
AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEAR BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN SOME CONFUSION THAT INCLUDES NO PUBLIC ROADWAY, THAT INCLUDES NO EMERGENCY ACCESS DRIVEWAY THAT INCLUDES NO RESIDENTIAL DRIVEWAYS FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
THERE WILL BE ZERO VH CONNECTIONS TO WILSON DRIVE AND TANAKA DRIVE.
ALL OF THAT AREA WILL REMAIN UNDEVELOPED PERMANENTLY.
AND THEN WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS A REQUEST TO REZONE 16.4 ACRES OUT ALONG MCKINLEY FROM C ONE TO R THREE, WHICH IS A DOWN ZONING, AND THEN SIX ACRES, WHICH IS HERE FROM R ONE TO R THREE.
AND THE PROJECT WE'RE SHOWING AT THIS TIME ON THE CONCEPT PLAN IS 156 UNITS.
AND LET ME EXPLAIN THE TYPES OF UNITS WE'RE PROPOSING HERE.
THESE UNITS WILL BE RELEASED, WE'RE PROPOSING TWO DIFFERENT TYPES.
64 OF THE BUILDINGS, WHICH INCLUDES THE ONES THAT ARE CLOSER TO BIG TREE WILL BE TWO FLOOR, TWO STORY BUILDINGS WITH SEPARATE ENTRANCES.
YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE KIND OF THOSE FOURPLEX TYPE UNITS.
AND THEN THE REMAINING 92 UNITS, WHICH INCLUDES THAT AREA, IS START GETTING A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO WILSON DRIVE.
THOSE WILL CONSIST OF SINGLE STORY UNITS.
UM, WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IN HAMBURG AND ELSEWHERE IN WEST YORK AS WELL IS THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE LIVE IN HAMBURG, FOR EXAMPLE, LOVE LIVING IN HAMBURG, HAVE A BIG HOUSE, WANT TO STAY IN HAMBURG, BUT WANT ONE STORY.
AND OFTENTIMES, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THEY DON'T WANNA OWN ANYTHING ANYMORE.
I KNOW I'LL BE PAYING YEAR ROUND, BUT I'D LIKE TO GO TO FLORIDA FOR TWO MONTHS IN THE WINTER.
AND WE FOUND THAT THAT'S A VERY ATTRACTIVE PRODUCT TYPE.
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE UNITS WILL INCLUDE AN ATTACHED GARAGE.
SO WHILE THEIR APARTMENTS FOR LEASE, THEY'RE MORE THAT MODERN STYLE APARTMENT WITH INDIVIDUAL ENTRANCES, WHICH OBVIOUSLY HAS BECOME MORE IMPORTANT IN LIGHT OF THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC INDIVIDUAL GARAGES.
SO YOU REALLY HAVE A FEELING OF OWNERSHIP DESPITE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE LEASING THE UNITS.
GLEN HAS A GOOD TRACK RECORD IN WESTERN EUROPE AND CONNECTION WITH THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS.
SO WE HAVE DONE OUR BEST TO ELIMINATE.
THE BIGGEST CONCERN THAT WAS RAISED WAS WITH WITH RESPECT TO PREVIOUS RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION.
I WOULD ALSO NOTE FROM A FISCAL PERSPECTIVE, ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE ON THIS SITE WILL BE PRIVATE.
I'M NOT ASKING THE TOWN OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE RESIDENTIAL FOR UNITS RELEASED, THERE WILL BE NO PUBLIC ROADS, NO PUBLIC SEWER, NO PUBLIC WATER, NO PUBLIC GARBAGE.
EVERYTHING WILL BE PRIVATELY OWNED AND PRIVATELY MAINTAINED.
THE OTHER THING I WANT TO NOTE IS I DID SUBMIT A LETTER TO THE PLANNING BOARD TO OUTLINE FIVE CONDITIONS.
I WANT TO WALK THROUGH THOSE REAL QUICK AND I DO PROVIDE EACH OF YOU WITH A COPY OF, THAT'S MY LETTER TO CHAIRMAN CLARK DATED FEBRUARY 8TH OF THIS YEAR.
AND I ALSO WANT TO NOTE GLENN AND I HAVE MADE AN EFFORT TO PROVIDE ANYONE WHO WAS INTERESTED WITH COPIES OF THE RELEVANT PLANS.
SO IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE WE HAVEN'T COMMUNICATED WITH DIRECTLY, I HAVE EXTRA COPIES OF WHAT I HANDED OUT WHO WILL GLADLY COMMUNICATE WITH YOU AND KEEP YOU INFORMED AS THE PROCESS MOVES FORWARD.
SO THE FIVE ZONING CONDITIONS ARE AS FOLLOWS AND I'M GONNA REALLY SUMMARIZE THEM.
THE FIRST ONE IS THAT WE WILL CONVEY A CONSERVATION EASEMENT TO THE TOWN OF HAMBURG FOR THAT 20.1 ACRES.
AND I WANT TO NOTE THAT THAT WILL NEED TO BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE TOWN ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, MR. RU HERE THIS EVENING BEFORE THAT OCCURS.
THE REASON WHY MR. RUS REVIEW IS IMPORTANT IS 'CAUSE HE WON'T CHURCH ADEQUATELY PROTECTING THE TOWN OF HAMBURG.
CONDITION NUMBER TWO IS, IN ADDITION TO THAT WILLINGNESS TO GRANT, THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT WILL ALSO GO BEYOND THAT AND RECORDED DEED RESTRICTION AT ERIE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE.
THE DEED RESTRICTION WILL INCLUDE LANGUAGE STATE AS FOLLOWS.
THERE WILL NOT BE ANY BUILDINGS, ROADWAYS, OR DRIVEWAYS WITHIN THE PERMANENT OPEN SPACE, INCLUDING ANY ROADWAY OR DRIVEWAY CONNECTIONS TO THE PORTION OF THE PROJECT SITE WITH FRONTAGE ON WILSON DRIVE, THEREBY ENSURING EVERYONE NOT ONLY THE TOWN THAT ANY NEARBY RESIDENTS, SPECIFICALLY THOSE RESIDENTS THAT BATCH UP TO THAT LARGE AREA, THAT AREA LITERALLY WILL RAIN FOREVERGREEN.
I DO WANNA NOTE THAT IT'S A PRETTY BIG AREA.
THE CLOSEST OUR PROPOSED ZONING LINE GOES TO THE BACK OF ANY HOMES ON WILSON DRIVE IS 200 FEET AND THERE IS A GOOD BIT OF VEGETATION IN THAT AREA AS MANY OF THE NEARBY PROPERTY OWNERS KNOW.
THE THIRD CONDITION THAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS AS FOLLOWS.
THREE, THERE SHALL NOT BE ANY BUILDINGS LOCATED ON THE PORTION OF THE SITE TO BE REZONED.
R THREE MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICTS LOCATED WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE REAR PROPERTY LINE OF THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL LOTS ON WILSON DRIVE, WILSON ROAD.
AS I MENTIONED, NOTHING IN TERMS OF OUR ZONING BOUNDARY WILL BE IN THE 200 FEET OF THE CLOSEST REAR PROPERTY LINE OF ANY EXISTING HOMES.
FOUR, WE'VE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT WE'LL OBTAIN
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WHAT'S KNOWN AS A NATIONWIDE PERMIT FROM THE UNITED STATES ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS.ONE OF THE OTHER BENEFITS FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL PERSPECTIVE OF THIS UPDATED PLAN IS WHILE THERE ARE QUITE A BIT OF FEDERAL WETLANDS ON THIS SITE, OUR IMPACT IS LIMIT TO FOUR ONE HUNDREDS OF AN ACRE.
IT'S ABOUT AS SMALL AS YOU CAN GET.
IT'S THIS LITTLE AREA HERE THAT'S NEEDED FOR A STORMWATER POND.
WE SHARED THIS PLAN WITH THE UNITED STATES ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS.
WE ALSO HAD PREVIOUSLY SHARED THE ORIGINAL PLAN AND THEY WERE VERY THANKFUL AND APPRECIATIVE OF THE CHANGES.
THEY SAID, YOU GUYS ARE REALLY MAKING A CONCERTED EFFORT TO PRESERVE THAT COURSE OF THE SITE THAT'S MOST ENVIRONMENTAL EXTENSIVE.
AND THEN FIVE, AND THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ONE, THAT THE ONSITE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM TO BE INSTALLED IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROJECT WILL COMPLY WITH ALL DEC REQUIREMENTS.
THOSE REQUIREMENTS INCLUDE THE NEED FOR THAT SYSTEM TO BE ABLE TO DETAIN A HUNDRED YEAR STORM EVENT.
MEANING OCCASIONALLY IF THERE'S A HUNDRED YEAR STORM EVENT, ALL THE WATER THAT COMES ONTO THE SITE AND HITS AN IMPERVIOUS SURFACE, WHETHER IT'S A PARKING SPACE, AN ACCESS AISLE, OR A ROOFTOP WILL GO INTO, OUR STORMWATER SYSTEM, WILL BE HELD ON SITE IN THE SYSTEM AND THEN CONVEYED OFF AT A, AT, AT THE SAME RATE OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS.
WHAT HAPPENS ON THESE SITES, WHILE CURRENTLY THERE'S 42 ACRES AND THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENT, SOMETIMES WHEN YOU DO THIS BY PUTTING THE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM IN, YOU ACTUALLY IMPROVE DRAINAGE BECAUSE NOW THE WATER HAS SOMEWHERE IT HAS TO GO.
IF YOU GO TO THIS SITE OR THIS PORTION OF THE TOWN, YOU WILL SEE, I DON'T THINK IT'S A REALLY WET SPRING THIS YEAR, BUT FROM TIME TO TIME DURING WET SPRINGS, WATER SITS AROUND AND KIND OF GOES WHEREVER IT WANTS, YOU KNOW, WELL INTO APRIL, MAY, AND SOMETIMES EARLY JUNE.
THAT WILL NO LONGER OCCUR WITH RESPECT TO THE AREA WE'RE DEVELOPING.
'CAUSE ALL THAT WATER WILL GO INTO OUR STORM WATER SYSTEM.
AS DREW INDICATED, THE PLANNING BOARD HAS ASKED TO LOOK AT BOTH THIS PROJECT AND ANOTHER SUBDIVISION THAT'S UNRELATED, BUT GEOGRAPHICALLY CLOSE AS ONE IN CONNECTION WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW.
PURSUANT THE STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUAD OF UX, THE PLANNING BOARD IS PART OF ITS DUE DILIGENCE, HAS ASKED FOR THERE TO BE A TRAFFIC STUDY, UH, THAT'S UNDERWAY AND WE EXPECT IT WILL BE SUBMITTED THIS WEEK.
SO I ALSO WANNA ENSURE NOT ONLY THE RESIDENTS, BUT THE TOWN BOARD, I KNOW YOU'RE AWARE OF THIS, THE PLANNING BOARD IS TAKING A CLOSE LOOK AT THIS BEFORE.
ULTIMATELY THEY FINALIZE ITS THEIR RECOMMENDATION, BOTH IN CONNECTION WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW PURSUANT TO THE STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT AND THE UNDERLYING REQUEST TO REZONE A PORTION OF THE SITE.
SO IN SUMMARY, THAT'S THE PRESENTATIONS.
I OBVIOUSLY WOULD WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS THAT MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD HAVE.
AND THEN FINALLY, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE ONE MORE TIME.
GLENN AND I HAVE DONE THIS NUMEROUS TIMES IN COMMUNITIES IN WEST YORK, AND OUR GOAL IS WE CAN'T NECESSARILY MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY, BUT WE DO WANNA KEEP EVERYONE INFORMED.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT ANYONE WHO'S INTERESTED IN THIS PROJECT HAS ALL THE INFORMATION THIS TOWN DOES, AND WE ARE COMMITTING PUBLICLY THAT WILL CONTINUE TO SHARE INFORMATION WITH ANYONE WHO'S INTERESTED.
WELL, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS? ANYBODY WANNA SPEAK ON THE QUESTION? YES, PLEASE COME ON UP IF YOU DON'T MIND.
THERE IS A CREEK THAT RUNS THROUGH THERE.
WILL THERE BE ANY EFFECT ON THAT CREEK? NO.
SO, TO A LARGE DEGREE, CAN I, DO YOU WANT ME TO ANSWER ONE BY ONE? IS THAT OKAY? YEAH, I, SO THERE IS A CREEK THAT BISECTS A PORTION OF THIS SITE.
IT ACTUALLY IS SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION OF THE UNITED STATES ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS.
AND SO TO A LARGE DEGREE, THE EFFORT HAS BEEN MADE TO AVOID THAT AS WELL.
AND THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS, NOT THAT I'M AGAINST IT, BUT WHERE, WHETHER THERE BE ALLOWED OF ANY SNOWMOBILING, FOUR WHEELERS GOING THROUGH THAT.
UM, WELL, SO ONE OF THE TOPICS THAT'S CAME COME UP, IT'S A LITTLE BIT UNRELATED TO THE REZONING, IS THAT THERE'S THAT CURRENT SNOWMOBILE TRAIL THAT I BELIEVE GLEN DOES IT CROSS ONTO THE SITE A LITTLE BIT.
AND WE BELIEVE CROSS IS ONTO THE SITE.
WE'VE AT LEAST TALKED ABOUT THAT.
AND TO THE EXTENT WE CAN ACCOMMODATE CONTINUED USE OF THAT, WE WOULD CERTAINLY AT LEAST CONSIDER DOING THAT.
MEANING WE DON'T WANNA BE THE ONES THAT TELL SNOWMOBILERS THAT HAVE BEEN CROSSING THIS SITE FOR DECADES.
HEY, GUESS WHAT? YOU CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE.
JUST, I WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW WE DON'T OWN THE PROPERTY.
WE HAVEN'T TOLD ANYONE WHAT THEY CAN AND CAN'T DO.
ANYBODY ELSE? LADIES AND GENTLEMEN? YES SIR.
I'M CHAIRMAN OF THE HAMBURG CONSERVATION BOARD.
UM, BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION ON THESE, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE, UH, GOOGLE AERIAL MAP, THIS AREA IS BEING HEAVILY IMPACTED BY ONE SUBDIVISION AFTER ANOTHER SUBDIVISION.
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IMPACTED.YOU GOT THE PARKER ROAD SUBDIVISION.
THERE'S A COUPLE BEING PROPOSED.
THERE'S A COUPLE THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT.
YOU GOT THE IMMACULATE PROJECT THAT WAS JUST BUILT AND ALSO THIS PROPOSAL, ALL THE WATERSHEDS AND ALL THE DRAINAGE ARE GOING DOWN TO THE RUST CREEK CORRIDOR.
AND YOU CAN TAKE THE BEST A HUNDRED YEAR PLAN YOU WANT, BUT YOU DO MULTIPLE COMPLEXES THAT HAVE MULTIPLE STORM WATER DISCHARGES.
YOU'RE GONNA ELEVATE THE WATERS THAT ARE GOING INTO THE RUST CREEK.
ON TOP OF THAT, YOU GOT ALL THE COSMETIC SPRAYING, ALL THESE SUBDIVISIONS WITH PESTICIDES AND HERBICIDES.
RUST CREEK GOES DOWN THE, DOWN THE LAKE ERIE IS ALSO A WILDLIFE BREEDING AREA.
YOU'RE IMPACTING THE DRINKING WATER AND ALSO THE BREEDING AREAS FOR THE WALLEYE.
AND LIKE, THE BIGGEST THING IS THAT WE'RE IMPACTING THE RUST CREEK CORRIDOR AND WE'RE JUST OVERBUILDING THAT AREA.
I MEAN, YOU CAN HAVE THE BEST A HUNDRED, A HUNDRED YEAR STORMWATER PLAN MM-HMM
BUT IF YOU GO THROUGH OUR TOWN AND LOOK AT THESE SUBDIVISIONS THAT HAVE THESE, UH, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AREAS THAT ARE OVER 10 YEARS OLD, THEY'RE FILLED IN WITH SIL, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE, WHO'S GONNA HOLD THESE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE IN THE FUTURE FOR MAINTAINING THE INTEGRITY OF THE STORMWATER ROUND MANAGEMENT AREAS? I MEAN, IS THE TOWN'S RESPONSIBILITY? DO WE MAKE AN HOA OR THERE'S GONNA HAVE TO BE, UH, IMPLEMENTATION OF A LAW THAT EVERY 10 YEARS THEY HAVE TO BE CLEANED OUT? BECAUSE YOU CAN GO TO SOME OF THESE SUBDIVISIONS, THERE'S NOTHING BUT CAP TAILS AND SILT, AND WHEN IT RAINS, THE WATER JUST POURS OVER.
VERY, VERY, VERY GOOD INSIGHTS.
SUPERVISOR SHAW, HOW ARE YOU? TOWN BOARD? MY NAME IS JAKE TRONICK.
UM, IN REGARDS TO, I, I JUST NOTICED ONE THING ON THIS PLAN, JUST SO EVERYONE CAN SEE THIS, THIS GREEN AREA HERE IS BASICALLY A NATIONAL WETLAND ANYWAY, FEDERAL OR A FEDERAL WETLAND.
ANYWAY, SO TO SAY THAT THAT'S BEING VIEWED AS A CONSERVATION AREA, IT'S KIND OF THIS, WE COULD DO SO, SO IT, IT'S HARDER TO KNOW.
BUT THAT BEING SAID, UM, THE, THE PURPOSE OF THE XANAX, THE ZONING PLAN IS TO, UH, PREVENT UNDUE CONCENTRATION OF POPULATION, OF OVERCROWDING, OF LAND LESS THAN CONGESTION ON THE STREETS, SECURE SAFETY FROM FIRE, FLOOD, PANIC, AND OTHER DANGERS TO ENHANCE THE ENVIRONMENT BY THE CONSERVATION OF CERTAIN OPEN LAND AREAS WITH CERTAIN DESIRABLE OR UNIQUE CHARACTERISTICS WORTHY OF PRESERVATION.
THAT'S THE HEART OF YOUR COMPREHENSIVE ZONING PLAN.
A LOT OF WORK WENT INTO THAT PLAN 15 YEARS AGO.
WENDELL, TONS OF WORK WENT INTO THAT PLAN.
IN ORDER TO CHANGE THAT PLAN, YOU HAVE TO SHOW THAT THE APPLICANT DOESN'T HAVE ANY DETRIMENT TO HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR COMMUNITY BY SUCH GRANT OF AN APPLICATION TO CHANGE THE ZONING.
AND WHETHER AN UNDESIRABLE CHANGE WILL BE PRODUCED IN THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR A DETRIMENT TO NEARBY PROPERTIES WILL BE CREATED BY BRANCHING OF THE AREA VARIANCE.
JUST AS THE CHAIR OF THE CONSERVATION BOARD SAID, WE HAVE SUBDIVISION, SUBDIVISION, SUBDIVISION APARTMENT COMPLEX, I DON'T THINK THAT THE ZONING APPLICATION SHOULD BE GRANTED BASED ON THE TOWN LAW.
I DON'T THINK IT MEETS THE CRITERIA.
UM, THERE IS NO UNDUE NEED FOR THE DEVELOPER.
THERE'S NO HARDSHIP FOR HIM HERE.
SO I JUST DON'T SEE WHERE THE, THE ZONING APPLICATION SHOULD BE GRANTED BASED ON TOWN LAW, NOT TO MENTION ALL THE EFFECTS AND THE CUMULATIVE EFFECTS OF THE SUBDIVISION THAT'S BEING PROPOSED ON THE OTHER SIDE OF PARKER ROAD THERE.
UM, TAIL THIS INTO THE MCKINLEY MALL INCENTIVE ZONING.
WE HAVE A MALL THAT'S IN RECEIVERSHIP.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT INCENTIVE ZONING.
WHAT A GREAT PLACE FOR INCENTIVE ZONING FOR THIS DEVELOPER TO WORK WITH THE TOWN.
NOT RIGHT AWAY, BUT TO SAY, LISTEN, I'D LIKE TO PUT SOME APARTMENTS UP THERE.
IT'S A, IT'S GOING TO BE A BURDEN ON THE TOWN RATHER THAN AN ASSET.
IF THAT IS, AND I DON'T WANT TO GET IN THE INCENTIVE ZONING PLAN, BUT THESE TWO THINGS, WHEN I, WHEN I WAS SITTING HERE LISTENING ABOUT THE INCENTIVE ZONING, IT REALLY, IT REALLY CLICKED THAT, LISTEN, WHY ARE WE REDEVELOPING AND CHANGING FROM A C WHAT WAS IT, C ONE, WHICH IS A 15,000 SQUARE FOOT FOOTPRINT TO, I DON'T KNOW THE SIZE OF THIS FOOTPRINT, BUT IT'S QUADRUPLE FIVE TIMES, SIX TIMES, SEVEN TIMES MORE OF A FOOTPRINT WITH ALL THE CUMULATIVE EFFECTS OF THE WATERSHED.
LIKE THE CONSERVATION CHAIR SPOKE ABOUT ALL THOSE THINGS.
IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THIS MEETS THE PURPOSE AND, AND THE INTENT OF THE TOWN ZONING, UH, LAWS, UH, BY ANY MEANS.
SO, UH, BASED ON THAT, I WOULD, I WOULD ASK THE, UH, THE BOARD HERE TO, UH, DECLINE THE, UH, APPLICATION FOR ZONING.
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THANK YOU.ANYBODY ELSE? LADIES AND GENTLEMEN? ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO COME FORWARD WITH ANYTHING GOOD TO SAY OR BAD TO SAY? ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? NO.
I, I'D JUST LIKE TO RESPOND TO THE PREVIOUS, UH, PERSON REAL QUICKLY AND THAT OBVIOUSLY ZONING.
THIS IS SOMEWHAT COMPLICATED TOPIC.
I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT MANY OF THE CRITERIA THAT WERE REFERENCED FOR THE BOARD'S CONSIDERATION AREN'T THE ACTUAL CRITERIA.
THOSE ARE THE CRITERIA THAT GOVERN A DECISION BY A ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS IN CONNECTION WITH ITS REVIEW AND ERROR.
THE DECISION THAT GOVERNS THIS BOARD AS A LEGISLATIVE BOARD, YOU REALLY HAVE A LOT MORE DISCRETION.
YOU'RE BASICALLY MAKING DECISIONS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE OVERALL TOWN.
SO IF YOU DO HAVE DISCRETION, I WOULD NOTE THAT IF YOU CAN COMPARE THE EXISTING ZONING, WHICH IS C ONE, THE PROPOSED ZONING, THE PROPOSED PROJECT, I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY ALL AGREE THIS WILL HAVE LESS TRAFFIC, LESS DENSITY.
SO 15,000 SQUARE FOOT THAT'S JUST PER BUILDING.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THESE 16 ACRES CAN ONLY HAVE A 15,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, LESS LIGHTING, LESS STORM WATER RUNOFF.
SO I DO THINK IF YOU COMPARE THE EXISTING ZONING, THE PROPOSED ZONING, AND THEN ADD IN THAT HUGE BENEFIT THAT WE'RE BASICALLY SAYING HALF OF THIS SITE WILL BE PERMANENTLY UNDEVELOPED AND RETAIN ITS EXISTING GREEN STATUS.
I DO THINK IT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF TOWN.
WE REALIZE YOU'RE NOT MAKING THAT DECISION THIS EVENING.
AND JAY, OF COURSE, I WELCOME ENGAGING IN FURTHER DISCUSSIONS WITH YOU AS WELL.
SO WE JUST WANNA REITERATE, NOT A DECISION THIS EVENING.
THERE'S GONNA BE A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL PUBLIC HEARING.
IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THE BOARD MEMBERS THEMSELVES HAVE, UH, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ASK THEM AND WE'LL DO OUR BEST FOR THE REST OF THEM.
ANYTHING ELSE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN? BOARD MEMBERS, ANYBODY? I HAD A QUESTION ON THE, UM, HEARING.
IT SAYS FROM A C ONE TO AN R THREE, RIGHT? MAY HAVE BEEN.
LET ME, CAN I TURN JUST ONE SECOND? THAT WAS A MISTAKE.
SO, 16.4 ACRES HERE FROM C ONE TO R THREE, SIX ACRES HERE FROM R ONE TO R THREE.
AND IT SOUNDED LIKE WHEN I HEARD THE LEGAL NOTICE THAT MAYBE THE SIX ACRES WAS LEFT OUT.
SO THEN I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, DO YOU LEAVE THIS HEARING OPEN TO A FUTURE DATE AND RE-NOTICE IT WITH THE CORRECT NOTICE? DO YOU CLOSE THE HEARING AND JUST HOLD A COMPLETELY SEPARATE HEARING AND I, I THINK IT'S A HALF A DOZEN, ONE HALF DOZEN, THE OTHER, WHATEVER THE BOARD'S PREFERENCE OR WHATEVER WALT THINKS WOULD BE APPROPRIATE ON FIVE ONE.
SEAN, FROM A, UH, FEASIBILITY STANDPOINT, SURE.
IT SEEMS ODD TO ME WHEN I LOOK AT THE PREVIOUS CONCEPT PLAN.
AND THE NEW CONCEPT PLAN, SURE.
YOU'RE GOING FROM 260 UNITS DOWN TO 156.
SO THAT'S A DECREASE OF 104 UNITS FROM THE FIRST PLAN TO THE PROPOSED.
AND THEN FROM THIS GREEN SPACE, YOU'RE GOING FROM SEVEN ACRES THAT WERE FREE TO 20 ACRES.
SO THAT'S A CHANGE OF 13 ACRES.
SO BASICALLY HOW, HOW, HOW, HOW CAN, HOW CAN YOU, OKAY, SO BASICALLY THE ORIGINAL LAYOUT, AND THIS IS, I'M GONNA GO RIGHT TO THE NEXT, GO BACK IN TIME, A SECOND.
THE ORIGINAL APP WAS 104 APARTMENTS IN 18 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
RIGHT? SO WE ELIMINATED THE SUBDIVISION.
I, AND I WANT TO KNOW, THERE WAS A COMMENT THAT, HEY, THIS IS LARGELY A FEDERAL WETLANDS.
THIS WOULD'VE ONLY REQUIRED THREE TENTHS OF A WETLAND, THREE TENTHS OF AN ACRE WETLAND EFFECT.
SO I MEAN, THIS, THIS SUBDIVISION WAS COMPLETELY FEASIBLE.
ONE IS BUILT UPSCALE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN HAMBURG.
I MEAN, THIS REALLY WAS GIVEN UP BASED ON THE INPUT RECEIVED FROM THE NEIGHBORS.
SO THEN THE CURRENT PLAN, COUNCIL MEMBER CONLEY ELIMINATE 18 HOMES AND THEN EXPANDS THE MULTIFAMILY DOWN INTO THIS AREA.
AND RESULTS IN THIS IS A TOTAL OF 156 UNITS.
AND WHAT WE DID IS WE FLIPPED 'EM.
SO THE SINGLE STORY UNITS ARE LOCATED MORE IN THE BACK.
THE TWO STORY UNITS ARE LOCATED UP CLOSER TO BIG TREE.
SO AS AN INCREASE OF 52 APARTMENT UNITS.
OVERALL IN AN ELIMINATION OF 18 SINGLE FAMILY LOT.
AND THE ADDITIONAL GREASE SPACE.
SO THE PROBABILITY IS BASICALLY YOU'RE HAVING MORE UNITS, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, UH, LESSER, UH RIGHT.
WHICH MEANS LESS IMPERVIOUS, SURFACE, LESS TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, NO ACCESS ON TO BIG TREE.
I MEAN, UH, WILSON, AND WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO WRITE TWO PRODUCT TYPES.
SO ORIGINALLY WE ONLY HAD ONE PRODUCT TYPE.
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WHAT WE'VE DONE, AND WE'VE TALKED TO A MARKET CONSULTANT, IS WE KNOW THERE'S DEMAND FOR THIS TYPE, THESE TWO TYPES OF PRODUCTS.ONE IS TWO STORY UNITS, THESE FOUR FLEXES WITH SEPARATE ENTRANCES AND TWO CAR GARAGES.
AND THEN THE ONES THAT ARE GETTING CLOSER TO WILSON, BUT STILL QUITE FAR AWAY, THOSE ARE MORE WHAT YOU WOULD PICTURE SINGLE STORY TOWN HOMES ATTACHED.
AND TYPICALLY WHAT WE FIND IS THE PEOPLE THAT MOVE INTO THOSE UNITS TYPICALLY LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY, OWN A HOUSE AND WANT TO STAY IN THE COMMUNITY THEY'RE IN.
WAS THE ONLY ISSUE THEN WITH THE FIRST, I'M JUST KINDA CURIOUS, IF THE FIRST PLAN SEEMED TO HAVE LESS DENSITY, LESS, UH, POPULATION, LESS TRAFFIC, LESS CONGESTION, ALL THE, UH, COMPLAINTS OF THE NEIGHBORS, UM, WAS THE W WHY WAS THAT TURNED? WAS IT LARGELY TURNED DOWN BECAUSE OF THE ACCESS ONTO WILSON? YEAH, SO TWO THINGS.
THE PLANNING BOARD HAD NOT ISSUED A RECOMMENDATION, BUT BASED ON THE INPUT WE HEARD FROM THE PLANNING BOARD AS WELL AS RUNS TWO, TWO SPECIFIC TOPICS, ACCESS ONTO WILSON DRIVE, WILSON ROAD HERE WAS A BIG CONCERN.
AND THEN PICTURE, BECAUSE THESE ARE RELATIVELY SMALL LOTS, BUT THEY'RE NICE HOMES, ALL THESE PEOPLE WOULD'VE ACTUALLY HAD RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT BEHIND THEM UNDER THIS PLAN.
AND OBVIOUSLY BY GIVING THAT UP, EVERY SINGLE EXISTING HOMEOWNER ON WILSON NOW HAS A BARE MINIMUM OF 200 FEET OF GREEN SPACE FOREVER.
IT ALSO RESULTS, THERE'S ALSO A STEP STREET HERE THAT OBVIOUSLY WAS ENVISIONED TO CONNECT THROUGH.
UM, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, ANYTHING ELSE? ALRIGHT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
LET'S MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN FOR NOW TO BE RECONVENED AT A SUBSEQUENT DATE.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND.
SECOND IS MR. CONLEY HAVE A QUESTION.
SO, HEARING LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, UH, WILL CONTINUE AT A LATER DATE.
SO NOW THAT YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE HANDOUTS THAT WERE GIVEN TO YOU, IT MAY PROVOKE SOME FURTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU WANT TO RAISE.
AND ANYONE WHO'S HERE FOR THIS HEARING WHO CAN GET A COPY OF THE HANDOUT BEFORE LEAVE WILL GIVE YOU ONE.
AND JUST ONE MORE, THIS, THIS PROJECT IS BEFORE THE, UH, PLANNING BOARD FOR AT LEAST THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.
YOU CAN COME AND COMMENT ON THE PLANNING BOARD WHO HAS TO DEVELOP THE REPORT FOR THE TOWN BOARD.
DO WE VOTE ON THAT? YOU MADE A SECOND.
UH, KAREN, BEFORE YOU GET INTO THE MINUTES, UH, I'M GONNA READ A STIPULATION INTO THE RECORD, UH, THAT WE DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSIONS IN THE MATTER OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, EMPLOYER, RESPONDENT, CIVIL AND CIVIL SERVICE EMPLOYEES ASSOCIATION, LOCAL 1000 A-A-F-L-C-I-O CHARGING PARTY.
THE STIPULATION READS AS FOLLOWS, WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG AND THE CIVIL SERVICE EMPLOYEES ASSOCIATION, LOCAL 1000 OF AFSCME, A-F-L-C-I-O, THE BLUE COLLAR UNIT, DESIRE TO SETTLE THE ABOVE CAPTIONED MATTER.
WHEREAS, UH, THE TOWN AND CSEA DESIRE TO MINIMIZE CONFLICT AND MISUNDERSTANDINGS AND TO PROMOTE HARMONIOUS LABOR RELATIONS.
NOW, THEREFORE, THE TOWN AGREES TO THE FOLLOWING, THE TOWN ACKNOWLEDGES THAT THE EMPLOYEES AND MEMBERS OF CSCA BLUE COLLAR UNIT HAVE A RIGHT TO EXPRESS THEIR CONCERNS VIS-A-VIS VOICE AND, UH, UH, VOTE COLLECTIVELY AND THROUGH THEIR DULY APPOINTED CSCA REPRESENTATIVES ON WHEREAS THE TOWN RESPECTS THE CSCA BARGAINING UNIT MEMBER WHO WAS A DULY APPOINTED CSCA REPRESENTATIVES REPRESENTATIVE RIGHT TO CARRY OUT THEIR DUTIES TO REPRESENT THEIR FELLOW CSCA MEMBERS WITHOUT INTERFERENCE, RETALIATION, OR THREAT OF PERSONAL DISCIPLINE WHILE FULFILLING THEIR REPRESENTATIONAL DUTIES.
AND WHEREAS THE, AND I'M SORRY, THE TOWN SHALL READ THIS STIPULATION INTO THE RECORD AS I'M DOING, UH, AT THE NEXT TOWN BOARD MEETING FOLLOWING BOTH PARTIES, EXECUTION OF THIS AGREEMENT UPON BOTH PARTIES EXECUTION OF THIS AGREEMENT, THE CSEA BLUE COLLAR UNIT SHALL WITHDRAW.
THERE ARE PENDING PETITION IN THE NEW YORK STATE, IN NEW YORK STATE PUBLIC EMPLOYMENT RELATIONS BOARD AGAINST THE TOWN OF HAM.
THAT'S THE STIPULATION I HAVE TO READ INTO THE RECORD.
IT DOESN'T REQUIRE A VOTE BY THE TOWN BOARD UP OR DOWN.
WE'VE FULFILLED OUR OBLIGATION BY READ.
SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO KAREN.
RESOLVE THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD.
THIS HEREBY APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS AS FOLLOWS, TOWN BOARD WORK SESSION OF MARCH 8TH, 2021 AND TOWN BOARD REGULAR MEETING OF MARCH 8TH, 2021.
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ON THE QUESTION.ALL IN FAVOR, A A AYE MOTION IS CARRIED.
UH, WE'VE ALREADY ADDRESSED ITEM NUMBER SEVEN AND ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, UH, MR. COMMON BE RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVED THE TERMINATION AND HIRING OF PERSONNEL FOR THE YOUTH RECREATION AND SENIOR SERVICES DEPARTMENT AS FOLLOWS.
I WAS GONNA SAY THESE ARE, UH, PRIMARILY, UH, NEW HIRES FOR THE GOLF COURSE.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO WITHDRAW ITEM NUMBER 10.
WE RESOLVED THAT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZED THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TO PROCEED WITH THE FOLLOWING HOME PROJECTS FOR THE 2021 PROGRAM YEAR AS APPROVED WITHIN ITS 2021 FINAL ACTION PLAN TO HUD 2021 HOME FUNDS VIA ERIE COUNTY HOME CONSORTIUM $156,720, ADMINISTRATION OF THE CONSORTIUM, $15,672 RENOVATION CONDITIONAL GRANTS FOR LOW INCOME $117,540.
ALRIGHT, I THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
WHERE IS ON JANUARY 11TH, 2021 THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZED A RFP FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, FOR LAYOUT DESIGN SERVICES FOR THE FORMER DISPATCH AREA WITHIN HAMBURG TOWN HALL.
AND WHERE IS THE RFPS WERE RECEIVED AND OPENED WITH THE FOLLOWING FIRM SUBMITTING RESPONSES.
CARINO WOOD MORRIS 36,600, DEAN DONATO ASSOCIATES, 51,350 LABEL ASSOCIATES.
33,650 LEWIS DESIGN SOLUTIONS, 22,000 BLYDEN ARCHITECTURAL 29,500 SUTTON ARCHITECTURE 27,350.
AND UM, Z THIS ARCHITECTURAL 29,750.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED ON THE BASIS OF BEST VALUE, THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES THE HIRING OF SUTTON ARCHITECTURE FOR THIS PROJECT.
FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE FROM 2020 BOND PROCEEDS LOCATED WITH THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUNDS.
ALRIGHT, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.
UH, OTHER QUESTION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
UH, OUT WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG.
AND WHEREAS THE TOWN BOARD FINDS THAT THE POTENTIAL AND OR ACTUAL DAMAGES FROM FLOODING AND EROSION MAY BE A PROBLEM TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG.
AND THAT SUCH DAMAGES MAY INCLUDE DESTRUCTION OR LOSS OF PRIVATE AND PUBLIC HOUSING DAMAGE TO PUBLIC FACILITIES BOTH PUBLICLY AND PRIVATELY OWNED AND INJURY TO AND LOSS OF HUMAN LIFE.
AND WHEREAS THE TOWN BOARD PROPOSES TO ADOPT A NEW LOCAL LAW FOR FLOOD DAMAGE PROTECTION AS AUTHORIZED BY ARTICLE NINE, SECTION TWO OF THE NEW YORK STATE CONSTITUTION AND ARTICLE 36 OF THE STATE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSTITUTIONAL LAW.
AND WHEREAS THE AREAS OF SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD ARE IDENTIFIED ON THE FOLLOWING DOCUMENTS PREPARED BY THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY, THERE ARE 1, 2, 3 FLOOD INSURANCE RATE MAP PANELS, WHICH ARE SET OUT IN THE RESOLUTION.
I WON'T BOTHER TO READ ALL OF THE LETTERS AND NUMBERS.
IT'S, IT'S, I THINK, SUFFICIENT FOR THIS RESOLUTION TO NOTE THAT THERE ARE THREE FLOOD INSURANCE RATE MAP PANELS, WHICH ULTIMATELY ARE FILED WITH THE STATE, UH, STATE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENT AND CONSERVATION AND FEMA.
THESE MAP PANELS WHOSE EFFECTIVE DATE WAS JUNE 17TH, 2019.
AND ANY SUBSEQUENT REVISIONS TO THESE PANELS THAT DO NOT AFFECT THE AREAS UNDER OUR COMMUNITY'S JURISDICTION ARE APPLIED.
NUMBER THREE, A SCIENTIFIC AND ENGINEERING REPORT ENTITLED QUOTE, WHAT INSURANCE STUDY NEW YORK YING COUNTY IS DATED 6 16 21.
IT WAS BASED ON THESE STUDIES THAT THE MAPS WERE, THE MAP PANELS WERE DETERMINED.
THE TOWN BOARD IS PROPOSING TO ENACT A LOCAL LAW TO BE KNOWN AS PROPOSED LOCAL LAW NUMBER FOUR OF 2021, WHICH IS ATTACHED HERE TO WHICH SHALL APPLY TO ALL AREAS OF SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF
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THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, WHICH SHALL ADOPT THE AFOREMENTIONED MAPS AND STUDY AND BEING FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD SETS A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS PROPOSED LOCAL LAW AT THE HAMBURG TOWN HALL AT 6,100 SOUTH PARK AVENUE, HAMBURG, NEW YORK AT 7:00 PM ON APRIL THE FIFTH, 2021.UH, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING? SECOND? ALRIGHT, UH, ON THE QUESTION, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
YEAH, MARK WASN'T KIDDING WEEKS AGO.
MARK WASN'T KIDDING WHEN HE SAID THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT HERE.
WHY WOULD THAT BE? ALRIGHT, HANG UP.
SO, OKAY, MINES 58 I GUESS WE'LL GET THERE FOLKS.
THERE'S A NEW RESOLUTION HERE.
WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OFFICE HAS AWARDED FEDERAL HOUSING RENOVATION LOAN THE TOWN RESIDENTS FOR MANY YEARS.
AND WHEREAS THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OFFICE OVERSEES THE REPAYMENT OF THOSE LOANS BY TOWN RESIDENTS AND WHEREAS THE TOWN ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS DETERMINED THAT CERTAIN DELINQUENT LOANS ARE UNCOLLECTIBLE FOR REASONS THAT INCLUDE THE DISCHARGE OF SAID LOANS AND BANKRUPTCY OR THE DEATH OF THE BORROWERS.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD HEREBY AUTHORIZES DIRECTOR OF ADMINISTRATION AND FINANCE OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG TO WRITE OFF THOSE DELINQUENT FEDERAL HOUSING RENOVATION LOANS THAT THE TOWN ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS DETERMINED TO BE UNCOLLECTIBLE.
AND AS OUR SET FORTH IN THE ATTACHMENT TO THIS RESOLUTION TOTALING THE SUM OF $15,072 AND 91 CENTS.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THIS PARTICULAR MOTION? SECOND, THANK YOU ON THE QUESTION.
OKAY, I GOTTA GO BACK AND FIND OUT.
WE WENT TO 1514 WHEREAS THE TOWN BOARD APPROVED INCURRING BONDED INDEBTEDNESS FOR THE REPAVING OF THE NIKE BASED PARKING LOT AND DRIVEWAY.
AND WHEREAS BY A SUBSEQUENT RESOLUTION, THE TOWN BOARD DESIGNATED DEPARTMENT HEAD PAT RYAN AND HIS ASSISTANT RICK ACK, TO COORDINATE THIS PROJECT AND TO PROVIDE THE NECESSARY INFORMATION FOR THE TOWN BOARD'S APPROVAL OF A COMPETITIVE BID FOR THE PAVING PROJECT.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG APPROVES THE BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS DEPARTMENTS REQUEST TO TRANSMIT BID PACKAGES THAT HAD PREPARED A CONSULTATION WITH THE TOWN ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT FOR THE PAVING OF THE NIKE BASED DRIVEWAY AND PARKING LOT.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND.
SECOND IS MR. PETRI, UH, ON THE QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
ALL RIGHT, LET ME GO OVER TO 16.
WHEREAS THE POLICE REFORM AND REINVENTION COLLABORATIVE WAS DIRECTED BY GOVERNOR CUOMO'S EXECUTIVE ORDER OF JUNE 12TH, 2020.
AND WHEREAS ALL MUNICIPALITIES IN NEW YORK STATE THAT HAVE POLICE FORCES ARE REQUIRED TO PARTICIPATE AND SUBMIT A WRITTEN PLAN BY APRIL 1ST, 2021.
WHEREAS IF COMMUNITIES FAIL TO SUBMIT A WRITTEN PLAN, THEIR FUNDING WILL BE WITHHELD BY THE NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF BUDGET.
AND WHEREAS THE PROCESS WAS STRUCTURED ACCORDING TO THE GUIDELINES PROVIDED IN THE NEW YORK STATE POLICE REFORM AND REINVENTION COLLABORATIVE REQUIRING COMMUNITY INPUT AND PARTICIPATION ALONG WITH AN ASSESSMENT OF POLICING PROCESS OR POLICING POLICIES.
AND WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG UNDERSTANDS THAT MAINTAINING PUBLIC SAFETY IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND IS ONE OF THE ESSENTIAL ROLES OF GOVERNMENT, IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THAT GOAL,
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THERE MUST BE A MUTUAL TRUST AND RESPECT BETWEEN POLICE AND THE COMMUNITIES THEY SERVE.WHEREAS TOWN OF HAMBURG HAS FOLLOWED THE GUIDELINES OF THE POLICE REFORM AND REINVENTION COLLABORATIVE IN THE FOLLOWING WAYS.
REVIEWED THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY, SERVED BY THE TOWN OF HAMBURG'S POLICE DEPARTMENT AND EVALUATED THE DEPARTMENT'S CURRENT POLICIES AND PRACTICES, ESTABLISHED AND EVALUATED POLICIES THAT ALLOW POLICE TO SAFELY PERFORM THEIR DUTIES, INVOLVE THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY IN THE DISCUSSION BY THE WAY OF PUBLIC SURVEY AND HOSTED A COMMUNITY-WIDE CONVERSATION ON MARCH 4TH, 2021.
AND WHERE COMMENTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS WERE RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC BEFORE COMPLETION OF THE PLAN.
WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG HAS READ, REVIEWED, AND AGREED WITH THE INFORMATION PRESENTED IN THE PLAN.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN OF HAMBURG ACCEPTS AND ADOPTS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG'S POLICE DEPARTMENT REFORM AND REINVENTION COLLABORATIVE PLAN AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN OF HAMBURG.
UPON ADOPTION OF THIS RESOLUTION, WE'LL SEND THE TOWN OF HAMBURG POLICE REFORM AND REINVENTION COLLABORATIVE PLAN TO THE NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF BUDGET BY THE ESTABLISHED DEADLINE OF APRIL 1ST, 2021 FOR FULL COMPLIANCE.
SO MOVED SECOND ON THE QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
SECURITY WHEREAS THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD SUPPORTS THE WORK OF THE TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD AND RECOGNIZES THE IMPORTANCE OF COLLECTING DATA TO INFORM DECISION MAKING REGARDING VEHICLE AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY THROUGHOUT THE TOWN.
AND WHEREAS TO GENERATE AND ANALYZE DATA COLLECTED VIA CAMERAS REQUIRES A SUBSCRIPTION PLAN, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZED THE TRAFFIC SAFETY COORDINATOR TO SUBMIT THE NECESSARY PURCHASE ORDER FOR ONE 12 MONTH PLAN SUBSCRIPTION OF ALL TRAFFIC SOLUTIONS FROM HERNDON, VIRGINIA APP TRAFFIC SUITE TO INCLUDE EQUIPMENT MANAGEMENT REPORTING, IMAGE MANAGEMENT ALERTS AND MAPPING AT A COST OF $1,500 AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT TRAFFIC SAFETY COORDINATOR IS TASKED WITH MONITORING ASSESSMENT, BUDGETING FOR AND RENEWING SET SUBSCRIPTION PLAN AS NEEDED GOING FORWARD.
FUNDS AVAILABLE AND ACCOUNT B 3 6 3 0 0.440.
ALRIGHT, UH, ON THE QUESTION ANYBODY? ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE A.
WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL ITEM THAT WAS NOT ON THE AGENDA, CAME IN LATE AND IT REQUIRES ACTION TONIGHT IN ORDER TO PRESERVE THE CONTINUITY OF SERVICES.
UH, BETH FERRELL, CAN YOU GIVE US THE RESOLUTION? YES.
BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVED THE EXTENSION OF THE LARGE TRASH PICKUP CONTRACT WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT, THE CONTRACT TERM IS 4 1 21 THROUGH 10 31 21 FUNDS WILL BE TRANSFERRED FROM B 8 1 6 4 3 5 IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,000 AND B 8 4 4 0 IN THE AMOUNT OF 3,500.
AND THE ENTIRE EXPENSE WILL BE CHARGED TO BE 0.8164.
I'LL SECOND THAT, UH, ON THE QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
UH, THAT CONCLUDES THE FORMAL AGENDA AS I HAVE IT.
UH, WE'LL GO TO DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD CARE TO SPEAK ON ANY TOPIC, YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO THAT.
UH, MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE AUDIT OF CASH DISBURSEMENTS FOR THE DATE ENDING 3 22 21 TOTAL OPERATING FUND DISBURSEMENTS $2,740,180 91 CENTS.
THE TOTAL CASH DISBURSEMENTS FOR THE PERIOD $3,655,427 AND 87 80 7 CENTS.
MOTION IS TO RECEIVE THIS REPORT.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND.
SECOND IS MR. PETRI ON THE QUESTION? ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
ALRIGHT, NOW MAYBE I'VE FINISHED NOW, SO WE'LL, WE'LL TALK TO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND SEE WHAT, UH, THEY CAN SHARE WITH US.
UH, MARTY GENKE FROM RECREATION, ANYTHING GOING ON THERE, SIR? UH, THERE'S QUITE A BIT GOING ON, BUT NOTHING, UH, TO REPORT, UH, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, UH, SOLID RIGHT NOW.
UH, AND HOW ABOUT ROGER GIBSON OVER IN CODE ENFORCEMENT? UH, NOTHING TO REPORT TONIGHT.
SAMANTHA TOSKI ANYMORE IN FINANCE? UH, NOTHING TO REPORT.
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PAT RYAN'S IN THE BACK.ANYTHING FROM YOU SIR? NOTHING TO REPORT, SIR.
ANYTHING FROM THE COURTS? NOTHING TO REPORT.
HOW ABOUT SEAN CLOUDIER? ANYTHING FOR YOU, SIR? I'M NOT GONNA BREAK THIS STREET.
DAN, STANFORD, I SEE YOU THERE.
I'M NOT GONNA BREAK IT EITHER.
ALRIGHT, TOM AND, UH, LARDO AND CAMMY, JARRELL, ANYTHING FOR YOU FOLKS? NO, I FEEL BAD IF I REPORT ANYTHING
UM, WE HAVE, UM, I'VE SET UP A, A MEETING WITH UNITED SURVEY THIS WEEK TO GO OUT TO TWIN WILLOW AND DISCUSS THEIR COMPANY THAT DOES, UH, PIPELINE INSPECTIONS AND VIDEOING.
UM, I'M GONNA GO OUT WITH THEM AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE SITE TO SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO FOR US TO INVESTIGATE THOSE PIPES.
UM, THE RFP FOR THE CLOCK TOWER SIDEWALK REDESIGN WILL BE OUT OFFICIALLY IN THE MORNING.
UM, WE'VE ASKED FOR, WE'VE GIVEN FOUR WEEKS FOR PROPOSALS TO COME IN FROM DESIGN FIRMS TO DO A REPLACEMENT REPAIR AND, UM, UH, ARMOR THAT AGAINST FUTURE STORM EVENTS ALONG THE SHORELINE.
UM, AND OUTSIDE OF THAT, THE LAKE AVENUE CROSSWALK REDID, I FAILED TO HAVE THAT DONE IN LESS THAN A WEEK.
SO I'M LOOKING AT DATES AND HOPING THAT I CAN SCHEDULE IT SO THAT THE BIDS COME IN BEFORE THE SECOND APRIL.
CAMMY, IF I MAY, UM, THE, UM, DRAINAGE STUDY, THE TOWN WIDE DRAINAGE STUDY, ME AND BETH WERE TALKING EARLIER.
WERE, WERE THEY SUPPOSED TO ALL BE IN BY FRIDAY, LIKE THE PROPO OR, UM, PROPOSALS WERE DUE MARCH 19TH ON THE TOWN WIDE DRAINAGE STUDY.
WOULD YOU LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE GOING OVER TO TWIN WILLS? MAYBE I, I'LL SHOW UP AND TAKE SOME NOTES.
I SHOULD KNOW TOMORROW EXACTLY WHEN THEIR, UH, THEIR FIELD SUPERVISOR IS AVAILABLE.
ALRIGHT, LET ME KNOW THEN, WOULD YOU, OKAY.
TOM, ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD THERE BUDDY? NOTHING THAT I TOOK.
ANYTHING FOR YOU SIR? NO COURSE SIR.
HOW ABOUT, UH, WALTER RUTH HERE? NOTHING REPORT JUDGE AND THE TOWN CLERK.
I'M GONNA STICK WITH EVERYBODY ELSE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY OF DEPARTMENT HEADS OUT THERE IN UH, OUT THERE IN THE STRATOSPHERE, BUT, UH, I GOT HANDS UP BACK THERE.
I NEED TO RECOGNIZE YOU WITH YOUR MASCOT, JENNIFER.
IT, WHERE'S THAT? OH, JENNIFER'S HERE.
NOTHING FOR FOREIGN PERSONNEL.
UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN IN THE AUDIENCE, ANYBODY UH, WANT TO MENTION ANYTHING ON ANY TOPIC OF CONCERN? YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME.
YEAH, THEN WE'LL TAKE YOU NEXT MA'AM.
UM, I'M TIM COOK FROM 4 3 8 8 PARKER ROAD REGARDING THE SUBDIVISION GOING THERE.
UM, WHAT I WAS WARNING IF UM, DOES A LOT OF OUR CONS, CONSTITUENTS IN THE NEIGHBORS ALL WERE HOPING FOR THE CLUSTER AND WE'RE TRYING, WE ARE HOPING THAT MAYBE WE CAN EMPLOY THE TOWN BOARD TO TALK TO THE PLANNING BOARD AND FIND OUT WHY THEY'VE DUG THEIR HEELS IN AGAINST IT.
'CAUSE THEY MADE THE COMMENT THAT IT WAS THE NEIGHBORS DIDN'T WANT IT AND WE EVEN FOUND ANYBODY THAT WASN'T IN FAVOR OF IT.
SO WE WERE KIND OF HOPING THAT MAYBE MM-HMM
YOU GUYS COULD TALK FROM ONE BOARD TO ANOTHER BOARD AND FIND OUT WHY AND WHERE NOT.
'CAUSE WE THINK IT WOULD BE MUCH MORE BENEFICIAL FOR THE AREA, FOR THE RESIDENTS, FOR EVERY, FOR THE TOWN, FOR EVERYTHING GOING FORWARD WITH A CLUSTER UHHUH VERSUS, AND I KNOW THE, UM, MR. MANKO WAS HOPING FOR THE CLUSTER.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT HIS FINANCIAL GAIN WOULD BE ONE VERSUS THE OTHER.
MY CONCERN AND ALL THE NEIGHBORS WERE THE FACT THAT WE LIKED THE CLUSTER IDEA ONCE WE COULD SEE THE DIFFERENCES AND WHEN WE SAT AT THE BOARD AND OR THE ONE BOARD MEETING AND THEY SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, NOBODY, UH, SECONDED ANYTHING.
SO THEY'RE LIKE, OH, THAT'S OUT THE WINDOW.
WE ALL WALKED OUT OF HERE BEFUDDLED.
SO I WAS KIND OF HOPING THAT MAYBE, ALRIGHT, ONE BOARD COULD TALK TO THE OTHER BOARD AND SEE WHY, AND MAYBE LET THE UH SURE.
NEIGHBORHOOD KNOW SO THAT WE COULD UNDERSTAND.
'CAUSE WE JUST DON'T REALLY GET IT.
UH, I DON'T WANNA PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, DREW, BUT, UH, YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHT INTO THIS DILEMMA? WELL, I WOULD ALLOW, UH, BILL CLARK, I WOULD ASK, UH, TO COME AND GIVE A REPORT TO THE TOWN BOARD.
IT WAS A DECISION, IT WAS A VOTE OF FIVE TWO,
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I BELIEVE, OR TO NOT ALLOW THE CLUSTER.IS THERE SOMETHING? BUT I, I KNOW THE BOARD HAS DIFFERENT OPINIONS.
IT'S THE ADJOINING SUBDIVISION.
IT'S THE ADJOINING SUB SINGLE FAMILY HOMES VERSUS THE CLUSTER.
RIGHT OVER ON CAN I ASK YOU THIS? WAIT, HANG JUST A SECOND.
UH, I'LL TALK TO BILL CLARK TOMORROW AND ASK HIM TO GIVE ME A MEMO.
GIVE YOUR NAME AND PHONE NUMBER, SIR.
AND MY PHONE NUMBER IS EIGHT EIGHT EIGHT YEP.
AND UH, I, I BELIEVE THAT, UM, ANOTHER ONE OF THE, UH, NEIGHBORS, UM, JASON PETRON HAD SENT, HE HAD SAID HE SENT YOU SOME YEAH, HE TALKED TO ME ABOUT THIS.
SO THEN YOU, MAYBE YOU HAVE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION.
I HAVE JASON'S, UH, CONTACT, UH, YEAH, SO LIKE I SAID, I'M JUST GOING BY WHAT THE NEIGHBORS ALL AROUND MY MOTHER'S HOUSE.
MY HOUSE THERE AT 43 88 PARKER ROAD WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND WE, WHEN THE, THE, THE, THE BOARD BASICALLY SAID THAT THE, YEAH, THE RESIDENTS WEREN'T IN FAVOR OF IT.
WE HAVEN'T FOUND ANYBODY THAT WASN'T IN FAVOR OF IT.
SO WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS, UH, WELL I'LL ASK HIM, I'LL ASK HIM TO GIVE ME A MEMO, UH, SO I CAN SHARE WITH THE TOWN BOARD AND WITH YOU FOLKS.
THAT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.
HOW ARE YOU? OH, OH, YOU WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU? I DID.
I JUST WANNA MENTION THAT NOBODY'S DOING ANYTHING THIS MONDAY WE'RE FINALLY GIVING THE BENEFIT FOR MY NEPHEW DAVIS
WHO'S ON THE SCHOOL BOARD AND ON THE HAMBURG.
IDA A YEAH, THE BENEFIT IS GONNA BE AT THE WOODLOCK FIRE HALL AND INCLUDES $20, INCLUDES A LINERS CHICKEN BARBECUE DINNER TO GO.
A LOT OF BASKETS AND A LOT OF NICE BIG TICKET ITEMS. SO IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED, IT'S 12 TO FOUR I TO LIVE ON FIRE HALL AND $20 THERE.
ALRIGHT, TOWN BOARD MEMBERS, ANYTHING ELSE? I JUST WANTED TO, I KNOW AT OUR LAST BOARD MEETING WE DID HAVE A COMMENT IN, UM, ON THE, THE LIVE STREAM AND SOMEONE WAS INQUIRING ABOUT THE THERAPEUTIC POOL.
I DID INQUIRE WITH WITH MARTY, AND HE WAS ABLE TO PROVIDE ME AN UPDATE ON THAT.
AND I DO APPRECIATE MARTY AND HIS STAFF ARE REALLY TASKED WITH THE DIFFICULT SITUATION THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE PANDEMIC.
AND THEY UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF ALL THESE SERVICES, AND YET THEY HAVE, UM, A LOT THEY'RE DEALING WITH TO BE ABLE TO GET SERVICES UP AND RUNNING.
UH, BUT I DID TALK WITH HIM ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, KEEPING THAT ON THE RADAR AND HIS STAFF DOES REALIZE HOW IMPORTANT THAT SERVICE IS TO MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS AND THEY'RE WORKING TO GET THAT BACK UP AND RUNNING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA SEE ANYTHING MORE.
UM, YOU KNOW, BETH, I DID, UH, BRING IN SOME GUIDELINES THAT I CAN SHARE WITH ANYBODY WHO'S INTERESTED, UH, THAT WERE PUT OUT BY THE STATE.
UH, WE WANNA OPEN UP AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
UM, THE BIGGEST, UH, CHALLENGE THAT WE FACE IS THE SOCIAL DISTANCING, BOTH IN THE WATER AND IN THE LOCKER ROOM.
AND THERE THERE'S OTHER ISSUES TOO, CLEANING AND SANITIZING, ET CETERA.
BUT, UM, IF ANYBODY IS CONCERNED, OUR PLAN IS TO REOPEN AND WE'LL REOPEN AS SOON AS WE THINK IT'S FEASIBLE.
ANYTHING ELSE? UM, I'LL GO FIRST.
UH, I JUST WANTED TO THANK, UM, EVERYBODY WHO'S INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING THE, THE POLICE PLAN READY.
IT WAS, UH, A RUSH TO THE DEADLINE AND IT WAS A REALLY WONDERFUL PROCESS.
UM, I JUST WANNA THANK THE CHIEF IN PARTICULAR AND, AND THANK CAPTAIN DIAZ, OUR, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT LEADERSHIP.
THEY WERE REALLY HELPFUL LINING US UP WITH THE RESOURCES THAT WE NEEDED SO THAT THE COMMITTEE COULD COMPLETE THE PLAN.
I THINK A LOT OF NEW IDEAS CAME OUT OF IT, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE DEPARTMENT TO, TO HELP 'EM WITH SOME OF THE NEW IDEAS THAT WE DISCOVERED IN THE PROCESS.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S CLEAR THAT WE HAD A LOT OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS INVOLVED WHO CARED, AND IT'S CLEAR THAT OUR DEPARTMENT REALLY VALUES THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
SO IT WAS, IT WAS A DIFFICULT PROCESS, BUT IT WAS AN IMPORTANT ONE.
AND, AND I THINK IT WAS, UM, IT WAS SOMETHING WE LEARNED A LOT FROM.
SO I'M JUST REALLY GRATEFUL THAT WE ALL GOT TO WORK TOGETHER.
UM, BUT I DO HAVE A FEW, UH, IMPORTANT THINGS.
UH, ONE, I WANNA, UM, THANK KAREN, KEVIN, UH, PETE
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DIAZ AND THE ENTIRE COMMITTEE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IN THIS ENVIRONMENT YOU HAVE, IT'S SUCH A TOXIC ENVIRONMENT WHEN YOU READ THE PAPER AND YOU SEE THE NEWS AND THE REPORTS, AND IT'S SO REFRESHING TO SEE OUR COMMUNITY COME TOGETHER, THE POLICE, THE TOWN, THE RESIDENTS ALL WORKING TOGETHER.AND THE PARTICIPATION IN THAT WAS REALLY STUNNING.
AND WE HAD OVER 800 RESPONSES TO SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS.
500, 600, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR OUR TOWN THAT THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD SHOW OF, UH, OF SUPPORT AND ACTIVITY AND TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, IMPROVE THE OPERATIONS OF THE DEPARTMENT.
UM, SO IT'S JUST GREAT TO SEE AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO CONTINUING, YOU KNOW, UH, THE GOALS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE IDENTIFIED.
UH, TODAY'S A HUGE DAY IN THE TOWN OF HANDEL, THANKS TO, UH, MARTY'S WORK, JIM GRANT, PAT RYAN.
WE SET A RECORD, WE BELIEVE, AS OPENING THE GOLF COURSE FOR THE, AT THE EARLIEST TIME, UH, IN THE HISTORY THAT WE'RE AWARE.
SO FOR THE GOLFERS, WE REALLY APPRECIATE THEIR PATIENCE LAST YEAR.
AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED, UM, TO HAVE THE GOLF COURSE OPEN.
IT'S GONNA BE A PREVIEW TIME AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO, UM, KEEP IT OPEN IF THE WEATHER CONTINUES TO, TO WORK IN OUR, UH, ADVANTAGE.
I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THAT WE HAD A GREAT MEETING ON FRIDAY WITH THE BILLINGS AND GRINDS DEPARTMENT AND THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
WE'RE REALLY STRIVING TO WORK WELL TOGETHER.
AND I WANT TO SET THANK PAT, UH, RICK NOECK.
JIM SHAW IS A LIAISON FOR THE BUILDING.
THE GROUNDS, UH, MARTY, UM, TO REALLY TAKE ALL THE TIME AND EFFORT.
WE HAD A NICE TWO HOUR MEETING, A LOT OF COLLABORATION, A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS.
UM, WE'RE GONNA PLAN ON DOING THAT QUARTERLY, UH, SINCE THOSE TWO DEPARTMENTS ARE SO KEY IN TERMS OF A LOT OF OUR PROGRAMS. THE PROGRAMS ARE RUN A LOT OF TIMES BY THE RECREATION, BUT THE FACILITIES THAT OPERATE THE PROGRAMS ARE RUN BY THE BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS.
UM, AND WE HAVE SO MANY PROGRAMS AND SO MANY ACTIVITIES AND SO MANY CHANGES NOW WITH THE BOND, UH, IN, IN PLAY THAT, UH, I FELT IT REALLY IMPORTANT TO KEEP THE LINES OF COMMUNICATION OPEN, UH, TO GATHER IDEAS.
AND WE HAD, UM, ALL THE KEY MEMBERS OF BOTH DEPARTMENTS THERE.
SO, UH, I REALLY WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR PARTICIPATING.
UM, ALONG THE SAME LINES, WE HAD, UH, GREAT PROGRESS OVER THE LAST MONTH IN THE IT DEPARTMENT.
UH, I WANT TO THANK JENNY FOR ORGANIZING MEETINGS WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS.
WE'VE NOW MET WITH ALL BUT TWO DEPARTMENT HEADS IN TERMS OF IDENTIFYING EFFICIENCIES AND COST SAVINGS, UH, WITH OUR PRINTING OPERATIONS, OUR COPY MACHINES.
UM, WE CURRENTLY HAVE, JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, FOUR DIFFERENT VENDORS THAT WE HAVE ON IN TERMS OF PRINTING AND COPIERS.
UH, OUR GOAL IS OBVIOUSLY OVER TIME TO GET THAT, UH, THAT, THAT DOWN.
WE WERE SENDING OUT 15 INVOICES.
UH, WE'VE ALREADY, UH, HAD ONE OF THOSE VENDORS GO FROM 17 INVOICES TO TWO INVOICES.
UM, JENNY'S BEEN ABLE TO REALLY, UM, GET SOME EFFICIENCIES.
WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED A LOT OF COST SAVINGS IN TERMS OF EQUIPMENT, COMPUTER OR PRINTERS, UM, THAT WE'RE NOT USING, THAT WE CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, PHASE OUT, UH, AND SAVE MONEY.
SO I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
AND AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK ALL DEPARTMENT HEADS FOR TAKING THE TIME AND EFFORT TO MEET WITH US.
UM, AND AGAIN, WE'LL WE'LL FINISH UP WITH, WITH SOME OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS AND, AND HOPEFULLY, UH, OVER A LONG PERIOD, IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN OVERNIGHT, BUT WE SHOULD SEE SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT, UH, SAVINGS.
I'M AFRAID TO ASK