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UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, UH, WILL CONVENE THE, UH, WORK SESSION FOR THE REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING OF 9 27 21 TO ORDER.MS. FARRELL, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
WOULD YOU BE KIND ENOUGH TO RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? THANK YOU.
PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE BY THE UNITED OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH SHE STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY.
UH, FOLKS, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE AGENDA, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT MARK BYRNE WOULD LIKE TO, UH, UH, RELATE TO US AS IT AS IT CONCERNS OUR MAJOR MEDICAL HOSPITALIZATION COVERAGE.
SO, MARK, IF YOU, THE FLOOR IS YOURS, SIR.
UM, SO WITH RESPECT TO THE RENEWAL FOR 2022, UM, AS RENEWAL GO, AS RENEWALS GO, THIS REALLY ISN'T A BAD ONE BECAUSE IT'S GOING DOWN.
COST IS GOING DOWN EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST, 2022.
IF YOU OPEN UP YOUR PACKET, THE MEDICAL RENEWAL IS REALLY MADE UP OF THREE COMPONENTS.
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN MADE UP OF THREE COMPONENTS.
THE FIRST BEING THE LARGEST, WHICH IS THE COMMERCIAL MEDICAL RENEWAL.
THE COMMERCIAL MEDICAL CONSISTS OF ALL ACTIVE EMPLOYEES AND ALL THE UNDER 65 RETIREES.
THAT MAKES UP THE LARGEST PIECE OF THIS.
AND THE INITIAL RENEWAL CAME IN ABOUT A MONTH, PROBABLY ABOUT SIX, A LITTLE MORE THAN A MONTH AGO.
ABOUT FIVE, SIX WEEKS AGO, THE 7.2% INCREASE, WHICH WAS QUITE A BIT, IT WAS PRETTY STEEP BASED ON THE TRENDS IN WESTERN NEW YORK ACROSS HIGHMARK, BLUE CROSS SHIELDS BOOK OF BUSINESS.
BUT NOT ONLY THAT, GOOD LAST YEAR, 10, EXCUSE ME, 11 HIGH COST CLAIMANTS TOTALING OVER 1.1 MILLION.
11 PEOPLE REPRESENTED $1.1 MILLION IN CLAIMS. IT'S THE OLD ADAGE THAT 15% OF A GROUP WILL REPRESENT 85% OF THE CLAIMS. IT'S TRUE HERE AS WELL.
THAT HAS TAILED OFF A LITTLE BIT.
NOW WE'RE DOWN TO FOUR SO FAR IN 2021, THOSE FOUR REPRESENT 306,000.
WHAT WE DID IS WE CAME OUT AND WE, OF THOSE 11, WE KIND OF DUG INTO 'EM A LITTLE BIT.
WE SAID, OKAY, HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE EITHER OFF THE PLANT OR ARE PROJECTED TO DECREASE CONSIDERABLY? LIKE THE, AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE LIKE, UH, PREMATURE TWINS, THEY'RE HIGH COST CLAIMANT.
THEY'RE A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS EASY, BUT USUALLY AFTER THEY'RE OUT, THERE'S NO MORE CLAIMANT AND THEY SUBSIDE.
AND THEN OUR FIRST CONCESSION, WE WERE ABLE TO GET FROM BLUE CROSS ON THE COMMERCIAL WAS DOWN TO 3.9%.
WE WENT BACK AND WE NEGOTIATED WITH BLUE CROSS UNTIL, UH, IT WOULD'VE BEEN TWO WEEKS AGO ON FRIDAY THAT THEY CAME DOWN TO FLAT NO INCREASE.
SO ON THE COMMERCIAL RENEWAL, IT ULTIMATELY WENT FROM SEVEN TO, AND NOW IT'S ZERO.
OKAY? SO IT'S THE SAME RATE FOR THE COMMERCIAL.
THE NEXT PART OF IT WOULD BE THE BLUE FLEX HEALTH REIMBURSEMENT ACCOUNT.
THIS IS HOW THE TOWN FUNDS THE DEDUCTIBLES.
AND FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 2000, BEGINNING OF 2021, THE TOWN HAD TO USE AN ADMINISTRATOR
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BLUE FLEX.AND THERE'S BEEN SOME BUMPS ALONG THE ROAD WITH BLUE FLEX.
WE TRY TO TAKE CARE OF 'EM AS THEY COME IN, BUT IT'S, IT WAS GROWING PAINS.
WE HAD TO USE A, AN ADMINISTRATOR BECAUSE BLUE CROSS WAS NO LONGER, THEY DIDN'T THINK, THEIR LEGAL DEPARTMENT DID NOT THINK THEY COULD RELEASE CLAIM LEVEL TO THAT DETAIL TO A CLAIM.
THE COUNTER HAMMER WAS THE ONLY CLIENT THEY RELEASED THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL TO.
THIS IS WHEN JACKIE WAS DOING IT.
AND THEN SOMEBODY ELSE ULTIMATELY WAS PAYING CLAIMS DIRECTLY TO PROVIDERS.
THEY LET US KNOW MID 2020 THAT THEY WOULD CEASE, THAT THERE WOULD NO NO LONGER BE ABLE TO GET THAT CLAIM INFORMATION.
WE HAD TO USE AN ADMINISTRATOR.
WE USED BLUE FLAX, WHICH IS A ARM OF BLUE CROSS AND BLUE SHIELD.
THE COST OF DOING THAT WAS ABOUT $10,000 TO HAVE BLUE FLA ADMINISTER THESE HRA ACCOUNTS.
THE BLUE FLA ACCOUNTS ARE RUNNING RIGHT NOW AT 58.1% OF THE TOTAL SPEND.
AND THEY'RE GONNA END UP RIGHT WHERE THEY'VE BEEN THE LA SINCE 2009, RIGHT AROUND 60, BETWEEN 65 AND 70% OF THE TOTAL EXPOSURE TO FUND THE DEDUCTIBLES.
THEY, IT RUNS VERY CONSISTENTLY.
AND THEY'RE RUNNING RIGHT THERE RIGHT NOW, 58.1 AS OF LAST MONTH.
THERE SHOULD NOT BE ANY INCREASE THERE.
IN FACT, IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT OF A DECREASE.
LET'S JUST SAY THAT THAT WILL BE FLAT.
WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR, ACTUALLY BEYOND THE END OF THE YEAR.
'CAUSE YOU'LL HAVE TWO MONTHS OF RUN UP AFTER 1231 OF 2021.
AND THEN THE LAST PIECE, WHICH IS THROWN TO BE QUITE A LARGE PIECE.
'CAUSE THERE'S ONLY TWO, THERE'S 250 RETIREES THAT ARE OVER 65 THAT THE TOWN COVERS.
NOW, WHEN I SAY 250, THAT INCLUDES SPOUSES.
'CAUSE THEY'RE ALL INDIVIDUAL CONTRACTS.
THE MEDICARE CONTRACTS ARE THEIR RATE FOR THE THIRD TIME IN FIVE YEARS.
AND CERTAINLY THIS UPCOMING YEAR HAS GONE DOWN 5.4% DECREASE.
THAT REPRESENTS A $90,780 DECREASE.
SO OF THE THREE PIECES, TWO ARE PROJECTED TO BE THE SAME COST, THE SAME AMOUNT AS THEY DID IN 21.
BUT THE MEDICARE PIECE IS GONNA SEE A, A LITTLE BIT OVER A $90,000 DECREASE BASED ON THE ENROLLMENT THAT'S CURRENTLY IN PLACE RIGHT NOW.
WELL, JUST BASED ON ENROLLMENT OR, OR IS THE PREMIUM COST PREMIUM'S GOING DOWN? OKAY.
THE PREMIUM RATES ARE GOING DOWN.
IN FACT, YOU'LL SEE AT THE BACK WHAT THE RATES ARE.
ACTUALLY, I'VE GOT A FIVE YEAR RATE HISTORY AND THREE OF THEM YOU'LL SEE DECREASES.
AND THEN THE, UH, THEN THERE ARE PLAN CHANGES.
AND THIS WILL, BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD DOES CERTAINLY NOT WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO.
OR EVEN THE TOWN, THEY'VE ENHANCED THE PLAN A LITTLE BIT.
AND THE, AND THE MEMBERS WILL BE NOTIFIED OF THESE ENHANCEMENTS.
INCREASE THE DENTAL AND VISION ALLOWANCES, A NEW WELLNESS BENEFIT.
A CAIRO BENEFIT IS NOW IN PLACE.
WHEN I SAY NOW, I MEAN AS OF ONE, ONE, EVERYTHING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WILL TAKE EFFECT AS OF ONE ONE OF 22.
JUST FOUR, FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT ENHANCEMENTS, MINOR ENHANCEMENTS TO THE PLAN.
THE OTHER PIECE THAT, UH, MY OFFICE MANAGES FOR THE TOWN IS THE DENTAL.
TWO YEARS AGO, JANUARY OF 2019, THE TOWN, BASED ON OUR RECOMMENDATION, WENT SELF-FUNDED.
UM, IT'S GONNA BE TOUGH FOR ANYBODY TO SAY THAT IT WAS NOT A GOOD IDEA.
OKAY? LAST YEAR, IN 2020, I SHOULD SAY THE TOWN HAD A SURPLUS OF $55,000 BY SELF-FUNDING.
THE DENTAL, RIGHT NOW, YEAR TO DATE, AT THROUGH SEVEN MONTHS, 2021, THE SURPLUS IS 28,566.
THIS IS BECAUSE YOU'RE ONLY PAYING FOR WHAT YOU USE.
AND THROUGH A PANDEMIC LAST YEAR, THAT 55,000, YOU WANTED TO BE SELF-FUNDED BECAUSE I MEAN, THEY, THEY SHUT DEBT OFFICES DOWN FOR LIKE FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS.
YOU COULDN'T EVEN GO EXCEPT FOR EMERGE CARE TO A DENTIST.
THERE WAS NO CLEANINGS, THERE WAS NO ROUTINE CARE.
AND IT WAS REFLECTIVE IN YOUR RATE.
IF YOU WERE FULLY INSURED, YOU WOULD'VE PAID THE SAME PREMIUM REGARDLESS OF IF YOU USED IT OR NOT.
BUT BECAUSE YOU'RE SELF-FUNDED, YOU PAID WHAT YOU USED.
AND THE TOWN WON BECAUSE OF THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GONNA HIT 55,000.
AGAIN, THAT WAS KIND OF A CRAZY YEAR BECAUSE OF THE DENTIST OFFICE BEING SHUT DOWN.
BUT YOUR, YOUR SCHEDULE TO COMMIT BETWEEN 32 AND $45,000 SURPLUS AT THE END OF 2021.
UM, THE REST OF THE, THE, THE HANDOUTS IN THERE ARE REALLY THE, THE WORKSHEET, THE HIGH COST CLAIMANT, WITHOUT GIVING NAMES, THEY WILL NOT RELEASE NAMES OF PEOPLE.
THEY'LL SAY WHAT THE DIAGNOSIS WAS IF THEY WERE AN EMPLOYEE OR WHATEVER.
THESE, EVERYBODY THAT'S OVER $30,000.
AND THEN IN THE BACK MARK, I ASK A QUICK QUESTION.
UM, IT SAYS THE THE PLAN STOP LOSS IS TO BE REMOVED EFFECTIVELY.
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FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS, WE HAD STOP LOSS ATTACHED TO IT.IT'S JUST TO MAKE THE TOWN FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE ABOUT GOING SELF-FUNDED.
IT WAS A DOLLAR 40 PER EMPLOYEE PER MONTH, WHICH ASSOCIATED, I THINK IT WAS LIKE FIVE GRAND OR SOMETHING, OR $4,500 AT THE TOWN.
THE DECISION WAS MADE A FEW WEEKS AGO.
THE BEGINNING OF ONE, ONE OF 22 WILL ELIMINATE THE STOCK LOSS.
PEOPLE HEAR STOCK LOSS AND THEY THINK THAT THAT WILL STOP A CATASTROPHIC INCIDENT.
THERE CANNOT BE A CATASTROPHIC INCIDENT ON DENTAL.
THEY COULD HAVE $60,000 WORTH OF DENTAL WORK NEEDED.
THE TOWN'S PLAN ONLY PAYS $1,250.
SO IT'S CAPPED WITHIN ITSELF, SELF-CONTAINED BY THE PLAN DESIGN.
SO WE LOOKED AT, IT WAS, IN MY OPINION, IT WAS A WASTE OF MONEY FIRST TWO YEARS.
BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T KNOW HOW IT WAS GONNA RUN.
NOW WE'VE GOT TWO YEARS OF CREDIBLE DATA UNDER OUR BELT.
LET'S DO IT WITHOUT THE STOP LOSS.
THAT WAS AN ADDITIONAL SAVINGS.
LIKE WE SAID, I THINK IT WAS LIKE $4,500, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THEN THE LAST PIECE, AS I SAID, ARE ALL THE HRA ACCOUNTS.
THESE ARE THE RE THE REPORTS THAT THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT WILL GET.
THE PERSONNEL DEPARTMENT WILL GET TO SEE WHERE EVERYBODY IS IN RELATIONSHIP TO THEIR DEDUCTIBLE.
IT WILL NOT SHOW WHAT THEY USED IT FOR, WHO THEY WENT TO.
IT JUST SHOWS THEIR BEGINNING BALANCE, WHAT THEY'VE USED YEAR TO DATE, AND WHAT THEY HAVE AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW.
ONCE THEY USE THEIR 1100 FOR SINGLE OR 22 PER FAMILY, THEN THEIR ACCOUNT IS UP.
AND THEN THE FULLY INSURED CARD, BLUE CROSS OVER FROM THERE FOR THE DENTAL.
THIS WOULD BE REALLY THE ONLY THING THAT'S DIFFERENT NOW USING AN ADMINISTRATOR TO ADMINISTER, ADMINISTER THESE ACCOUNTS.
AND YOU ALSO SEE THE, UH, AS I SAID, THE, THE, UH, FIVE YEAR HISTORY AND THEN THE DENTAL CLAIMS SHEET, WHERE YOU'LL SEE THAT $28,000 SURPLUS SO FAR IN 2021.
ANY QUESTIONS AT ALL? THANKS FOR ALL YOUR WORK.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW WHAT WE DO THE MEDICARE TOO.
THE, UM, TOWN OF HAMMER IS THE ONLY ONE I DO THIS FOR.
THERE WAS 12 PEOPLE THAT TRANSFERRED SO FAR IN 2021 THAT BECAME MEDICARE ELIGIBLE.
I MAKE AN APPOINTMENT, I USUALLY MEET 'EM AT TIM HORTON'S OR THEIR HOUSE, AND THEN I EXPLAIN THE PLAN TO 'EM AND I GET THEIR APPLICATION AND I MOVE THEM OVER TO THE MEDICARE PLAN.
IT WAS 12 SO FAR THIS, 'CAUSE WE, WE HAVE A NEW WAY OF TRACKING THAT WHERE I, I KNOW SIX MONTHS OUT WHEN SOMEBODY'S GOING TO EITHER TURN 65 OR RETIRE, IF THEY ALREADY ARE 65, 'CAUSE THEY CANNOT GO INTO IT UNTIL THEY'RE OVER 65 AND NO LONGER ACTIVELY AT WORK, THEN THEY THEN, AND ONLY THEN CAN THEY GO INTO THE MEDICARE ADVANTAGE.
SO WE'VE GOT A PRETTY AIRTIGHT SYSTEM NOW THAT LETS US SEE IT COMING A MILE AWAY.
OKAY, FOLKS, LET ME SHARE SOME, UH, THANK YOU, MARK.
LET ME SHARE SOME INFORMATION WITH YOU, WHICH I THINK IS SOMEWHAT ENCOURAGING.
UH, WE'VE GOTTA PRODUCE THE TENTATIVE BUDGET THAT I SUBMIT TO THE PATAL BOARD AND A THI ON THURSDAY.
AND THEN OF COURSE, UH, WE'VE GOT, UH, SEVERAL WEEKS OF MEETINGS AND DEBATE AND REVIEW AND SO FORTH.
ONE OF THE THINGS, UH, THAT, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS WITH REGARD NOT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR VEHICLES.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE REQUESTING, UH, SIX, UH, CHARGERS, WHICH I THINK I'M GONNA RECOMMEND THAT THEY GET.
BUT HERE'S, UH, ON A COUPLE OF OTHER DEPARTMENTS, UH, THERE ARE MAYBE FOUR DIFFERENT VEHICLES THAT SHOULD BE PURCHASED FOR OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
ENGINEERING CLAIMS, THEY NEED SOMETHING.
AND CERTAINLY, UH, YOU'VE HEARD FROM CHRIS HALL, HE SAYS HE STOPS HIS CAR BY DRAGGING HIS FOOT ON THE CEMENT, YOU KNOW,
ANYWAY, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT ENTERPRISE RENTAL.
THEY'RE COMING IN WITH A MEETING ON, UH, WEDNESDAY.
UH, JUST JUST TO COMPARE WHAT WILL BE FOR US TO RENT OVER A THREE YEAR PERIOD, FIVE YEAR PERIOD.
UH, AND I'M GONNA GIVE YOU THE BUDGET WITH A PURCHASE IN IT, BUT I'M GONNA GIVE YOU KIND OF A, A SHEET TO LOOK AT WITH THE RENTALS SO YOU CAN KIND OF COMPARE AND CONTRACT WHEN WE ULTIMATELY APPROVE.
WE HAVEN'T IT BEFORE, BUT WHAT THEY HAVE SOUNDS PRETTY ENCOURAGING TO ME.
SO I'M GONNA SHARE IT WITH YOU BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING.
ALSO, I, I, UH, I'LL SEND THIS OUT TO THE BOARD MEMBERS.
THE ESTIMATE THIS YEAR FOR MORTGAGE TAX REVENUE,
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UH, IS $1,774,405 HAMBURG'S, UH, ALLOTMENT, AS YOU KNOW, THE HOUSING PRICES ARE GOING UP.DEMAND FOR, FOR, UH, HOMES IS, IS SIGNIFICANT.
SO LAST YEAR WE, UH, WE HAD 1,558,000 405 6.
SO THIS IS AN INCREASE OF ABOUT 222,000 FOR 2021.
AND IT BEATS, UH, 2019 WAS 1,138,000 6 0 5.
SO I'M A LITTLE COMFORTABLE IN RECOMMENDING TO YOU THAT THE MORTGAGE TAX REVENUE ANTICIPATION BE INCREASED OVER OUR 2020 BUDGET.
NOT AS STRONG IN 2222, BUT STILL PRETTY GOOD SALES TAX.
UH, AS YOU, AS YOU MAY KNOW, UH, IN 2020, WE WERE SHUT DOWN TO SOME EXTENT.
WE TOOK IN 6,986,000 IN SALES TAX IN 2019.
UH, THIS YEAR, ESTIMATE BASED ON, UH, THREE QUARTERS OF THE YEAR BEING DONE, $8,026,818.
NOW, WE CAN'T GUARANTEE WE'RE GONNA SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT NEXT YEAR.
MAYBE INTEREST RATES GO UP WHERE THE ECONOMY SLOWS DOWN, WHATEVER THE CASE MIGHT BE.
BUT IT CERTAINLY HELPS US, UH, THE REVENUE SIDE.
WE NEED MORE REVENUE AS WE NEED TO CUT EXPENSES AS WELL.
OUR PILOT PROGRAMS PAYMENT IN LIEU OF TAXES, UH, UH, IT APPEARS, UH, THE HIDA HAS SOME INFORMATION, UH, WHICH IS HELPFUL TO US.
IT APPEARS THAT OUR PILOT MONEY WILL BE GOING UP.
WE HAD IN 20, UH, UH, 2020 REVENUES OF 370,000, AND WE BUDGETED 316 FOR THAT YEAR.
SO IT'S A GOOD CHANCE BASED ON WHAT THEY, WHAT WHAT THE DIRECTOR TELLS ME THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE GETTING MORE THAN THAT IN 2022.
FINALLY, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE GOT TO DEBATE WHEN WE DO THE BUDGET, DREHER AND LUC SENT THIS OVER TO ME AND I'LL READ IT TO YOU.
AND I'M GONNA GET, I JUST GOT THIS, SO I'M GONNA MAKE COPY, COPY.
I'M GONNA SCAN AN EMAIL TO EVERYBODY FOR TOMORROW SO YOU CAN HAVE IT.
IT SAYS, THE TOWN RECEIVED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF FEDERAL FUNDING AWARDED BY THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN.
CERTAIN PORTIONS OF THE A RPA FUNDING THAT ARE ATTRIBUTED TO THE TOWN'S QUOTE, REVENUE LOSS CALCULATION.
THAT'S THE REVENUE LOSS OCCASION BY THE COVID PANDEMIC CAN BE USED FOR A BROAD CATEGORY OF GOVERNMENT SERVICES.
THIS WOULD INCLUDE INVESTMENT TO, UH, IN EQUIPMENT AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
WHILE IT IS NOT RECOMMENDED TO BUDGET, UH, THE USE OF A RPA REVENUES FOR ONGOING RECURRING EXPENSES, WE HAVE SOME FOUND THAT SOME COMMUNITIES ARE USING THE, UH, THE, THE, THE LOSS, ANTICIPATED LOSS TO BUDGET FOR ONE TIME TRANSACTIONS, LIKE A PURCHASE OF A PIECE OF HEAVY EQUIPMENT, UH, OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S RATHER INTERESTING.
AND I CAN ALSO TELL YOU, UH, BASED UPON WHAT KATHY, UH, RUSKI AND, UH, ROGER, UH, GIBSON, MARTY DEKE HAVE TOLD ME, WE ALSO ARE SEEING A, A NICE INCREASE IN 2021 FROM THE FEES AND REVENUES THAT WE HAVE BROUGHT IN, UH, UH, ON THE TOWN WIDE LEVEL OVER WHAT WE HAD IN 2020.
SO THERE'S SOME POSITIVE NEWS.
MAYBE WE CAN, WE CAN COME IN HERE, UH, ALL OF US AFTER IT'S OVER AND HOLD THE TAXES FAIRLY CONSTANT.
THAT WOULD BE A NICE THING TO DO.
ANYTHING ELSE ANYBODY WANTS TO BRING UP NOW? AND THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH THE AGENDA.
ANY THINGS, BETH? MICHAEL? OKAY, HERE WE GO.
UM, WE GOT THE MINUTES OF THE MEETINGS.
WE'VE ALSO GOT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU FOLKS KNEW DUKE SPITLER.
DID YOU KNOW, DID ANYBODY KNOW HIM PERSONALLY? DID YOU KNOW DUKE? YOU DID KATHY? YEAH.
WELL, DUKE LIVED OUT IN LAKEVIEW.
HE WAS BORN IN 1919, UH, FOUGHT HONORABLY IN WORLD WAR II.
HE WAS THE FOUNDER OF THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY BOARD, WAS ON THE PLANNING BOARD FOR YEARS AND WAS KIND OF MR. LAKEVIEW LIVE NEAR THE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY ON LAKEVIEW ROAD.
AND THE, THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY BOARD WANTED US TO DO SOMETHING NICE FOR DUKE.
WE'VE GOT A PLAQUE, UH, THAT WAS MADE FOR HIM.
UH, IT'S CALLED THE SPITLER POND PLAQUE.
A POND WAS NAMED AFTER DUKE WHEN HE PASSED AWAY.
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THIS PROCLAMATION, UH, PRAISES HIM, BUT ALSO PROVIDES THAT WE FIND A PLACE SOMEWHERE IN OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICE TO HANG UP THAT PLAQUE.HE WAS, UH, DEDICATED, UH, EVERY COMMITTEE THAT HE COULD SERVE ON, BUT MAINLY ENVIRONMENTAL AND PLANNING.
HE WAS THERE FOR 30 YEARS AND JUST A, JUST A TERRIFIC GUY.
SO ANYWAY, THAT'S, THAT'S THE STORY ON DUKE.
HE PASSED AWAY A COUPLE YEARS AGO, I THINK.
ON THE B AND G STUFF, THAT'S JUST, UM, THAT'S JUST THE SWITCHING OVER ON THE FULL-TIME POSITIONS.
NO NEW POSITIONS BEING ADDED THERE.
UH, SEAN, YOU'RE, I GOT THE 18 MILE CREEK, UH, PROTECTION LAW.
WHAT DO YOU THINK, UH, YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT? SURE.
UH, WELL, AS YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN, UH, A PROCESS THAT HAD STARTED EVEN BEFORE I, I CAME ON THE BOARD, UM, SEVERAL YEARS BACK BY THE CONSERVATION, UH, BOARD WITH THE, THE INTEREST IN REALLY, UM, UPDATING THIS, UH, CRITICAL PART OF THE AREA 18 MILE CREEK, UM, FROM EROSION, UM, PROBLEMS THAT, THAT OCCUR BECAUSE OF LOCATION, UH, OF THE, OF THE CREEK AS WELL AS THE ADJOINING PROPERTIES.
UM, IT HADN'T BEEN LOOKED AT FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
SO I PICKED UP WHERE IT HAD BEEN LEFT OFF IN TERMS OF TRYING TO COME WITH SOME, UH, RESOLUTION TO, UM, FINE TUNE THE CODE AND MAKE IT, UH, MORE APPLICABLE TO, UH, TODAY'S ISSUES THAT ARE CONFRONTED.
SO WE WORKED WITH, UM, DREW, UH, RILEY FROM WENDELL, UM, HAD, HAD INPUT FROM OUR TWO, UH, ATTORNEYS, THE CONSERVATION BOARD, PRIMARILY MARK ETTE, UM, ALSO, UM, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, ROGER GIBSON.
UM, AND NOW, UH, WE HAVE SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE ENGINEERING, UH, THAT WE WANNA ALSO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.
SO, UM, WE, UH, CLOSE TO GETTING READY TO GO, BUT BASED ON, UH, EVERYONE'S FEEDBACK TONIGHT, UM, WE CAN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS CERTAINLY STILL, UH, AS NEEDED.
SO I THOUGHT I'D, UH, TURN IT OVER TO, TO CAMMY AND TOM TO GIVE US SOME OF THEIR INPUT, UH, ON THE PROPOSAL.
JUST SO THE BOARD'S AWARE, TOM AND I HAD NOT LOOKED AT THIS, UH, UNTIL WE SAW IT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.
AND REALLY OUR, OUR MAIN CONCERN WAS JUST THAT UNDER THE PROHIBITIVE ACTIONS, THERE IS A BULLET POINT THAT SAYS ALL, UM, ALL ACTIONS THAT REQUIRE PERMIT OR APPROVAL BY THE TOWN OF CAMPER AS BEING PROHIBITED, UH, UNDER THIS CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL AREA.
SO THE MAIN CONCERN FOR US IS, 'CAUSE WE'VE HAD THIS COME UP, UM, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT BUILD, UH, THAT A BUT, UH, 18 MILE CREEK WHEN IT COMES TO DRAINAGE FROM THE HOME, SOMETIMES IT CAN BE DIFFICULT TO RUN THAT TO THE PUBLIC ROAD BECAUSE OF ELEVATIONS.
UH, OBVIOUSLY EVERYTHING RUNS DOWNHILL, EVERYTHING RUNS TOWARDS CREEKS.
SO THE CONCERN WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A RECENT PROJECT THAT, UH, GRADING AND DRAINAGE PLANS FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES COME TO ENGINEERING AND WE APPROVE THEM.
SO, UNDER THIS LANGUAGE, ANY, UH, DRAINAGE OR PIPES FOR DRAINAGE THAT WOULD WANT BUILD WOULD HAVE TO, WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN THAT 60 FOOT CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL AREA.
SO THAT IS OUR ONLY CONCERN REALLY, WHEN IT COMES TO THE LANGUAGE STATED IN HERE, IS HOW TO HANDLE THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAT NEEDS TO DRAIN SOMEWHERE AND HAS, CANNOT MAKE IT TO THE ROAD BECAUSE ELEVATION STILL ALLOW IT AND ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DRAIN INTO THIS 60 FOOT AREA ALONG 18 MILE CREEK.
SO THAT WAS REALLY OUR MAIN CONCERN WHEN WE READ, UH, THE SECTION THAT WAS PROVIDED WITH THE AGENDA.
UM, AND HOW MANY HOMES GENERALLY A YEAR WOULD FALL INTO THIS CATEGORY IN TERMS OF, UH, BE APPLICABLE TO GIVE TIME? I KNOW WE JUST HAD ONE PER YEAR.
I MEAN, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA BE DEALING WITH EVERY MONTH? IS IT ONCE EVERY 10 YEARS? I MEAN, JUST BALLPARK.
I MEAN, TO GET A SENSE OF THREE, FOUR A YEAR.
SO I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE A MAJOR ISSUE OF US RE UM, REPHRASING IT TO ACCOMMODATE, UM, YOU KNOW, A, A NEW BUILD, ESSENTIALLY.
YOU'RE TALKING JUST NEW BUILDS.
JUST ANYTHING THAT WOULDN'T GO TO THE PLANNING BOARD ALREADY, BECAUSE IT'S LIKE PLAN APPROVAL AND SO ON.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE LAW DOES ALLOW FOR, UM, APPLICANTS TO APPEAL TO THE PLANNING BOARD, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REALLY WANNA SEND AN INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER THAT'S TRYING TO BUILD JUST A SINGLE HOME TO HAVE TO GO MM-HMM
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WORK, UH, TO GET APPROVAL JUST FOR DRAINAGE OFF THEIR HOME.NO, I DON'T THINK WE'D WANNA DO THAT.
A LOT OF EXISTING HOMES NOW DRAIN INTO THE CREEK.
AND IN FACT, IF THE HOME DRAINS TO THE ROAD, TYPICALLY THE ROAD WOULD DRAIN TO THE CREEK.
SO IT, IT, I DON'T, WE DON'T FEEL THAT IT REALLY ALLOWS MORE OF A SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT THAN ABSOLUTELY.
AND THEN THAT WOULD GO TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR THE ENTIRE REVIEW PROCESS.
AND DETAILED ENGINEERING CLIENTS WOULD COME TO US FOR REVIEW FOLLOWING APPROVAL.
WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT THOSE SMALLER APPLICANTS THAT MIGHT GET CAUGHT UP IN THIS.
UH, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE LANGUAGE SAYS ALL OTHER ACTIONS.
YEAH, WE CAN MAY MAYBE REWORD IT TO INCLUDE, UM, ALL THEIR ACTIONS, UH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF, YOU KNOW, NEW BUILDS, UM, THAT WILL GO THROUGH THE PROPER, UM, PROTOCOL OF THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
I'M BUILDING A HOME NOW ON SOUTH CREEK ROAD.
UM, AND I'VE BEEN BACK AND FORTH TO MEETINGS NUMEROUS TIMES.
UM, UH, ARTISAN BUILDERS, HE'S SAID HE WAS GONNA BE HERE.
HE IS NOT HERE YET, BUT I'VE HAD ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS WITH THAT.
UM, WE NEEDED TO DRAIN, AND HE PUT THE DRAIN IN BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH WATER THERE.
I HAVE LIVED ON SOUTH GREEK ROAD AND HAD, UH, 30 ACRES.
SO I TOOK PIECE OF MY LAND AND BUILDING A SMALL HOUSE FOR MYSELF.
AND I, I, THE CONSERVATION HAS BEEN NOTHING BUT A PAIN.
WE KNEW NOTHING ABOUT IT BEFOREHAND.
AND THEN SOMEBODY TOLD ME 40 FEET AFTER WE WERE BUILDING, AND THEN SOMEBODY SAID 60 FEET, BUT THE, THIS CONSERVATION GUY SAID A HUNDRED FEET.
AND HE SAID I COULDN'T MOW IT.
AND, UH, PLUS THAT I OWN THE CREEK AND UP THE OTHER SIDE.
NOW, THAT'S THE CRAZIEST THING I EVER HEARD, BECAUSE I CAN WALK DOWN THERE AND WALK IN THE WATER.
WHAT, WHAT ELSE CAN I DO WITH THAT? SO ANYHOW, THE DRAINAGE IS IN.
WE HAD TO PUT QUITE A BIG DRAINAGE BECAUSE I'M RIGHT NEXT TO THE RAILROAD TRACK ON SOUTH CREEK ROAD, AND MY HOUSE IS MORE NEAR THE ROAD AND THERE'S A BIG ONE TO THE BACK.
BUT, UM, IT'S, IT'S JUST BEEN NOTHING BUT GRIEF FOR US SINCE THEN.
AND WHEN I WENT TO THE, UM, WHEN I CAME TO THE TOWN, UH, THE PLANNING MEETING, THEY SAID ALL IT WOULD MEAN WAS NO HOUSES COULD BE BUILT THERE.
I'LL GO UP THE SIGNS, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THAT PLACE EVER TO BE BUILT.
IT'S TOO BEAUTIFUL BACK THERE WITH THE WOODS AND THE CREEK AND EVERYTHING.
BUT THEN IT WAS EVERYTHING ELSE.
I MIGHT AS WELL JUST GIVE YOU THE LAND AND SAY THE CREEK IN THAT A HUNDRED FEET OF LAND ISN'T EVEN MINE.
UM, MY LAWYER HAD TO GET INVOLVED IN, ANYHOW, HE SAID I COULD DO WITH IT WHAT I WANTED EXCEPT CUT DOWN TREES, WHICH I WOULDN'T DO ANYHOW, BUT I THINK THIS NEEDS TO BE STRAIGHTENED OUT.
AND THEN I HAD NEVER SIGNED ANYTHING.
AND I HAD COME IN ONE TIME TO TALK TO SOMEBODY, BUT SARAH WAS ON VACATION.
AND THEN I CAME IN AGAIN AND TALKED TO SARAH, SAID, SARAH, I DON'T WANT THIS AT ALL.
AND SHE SAID, I HAVE TO HAVE IT BECAUSE IT WAS CONTINGENT ON GETTING THE PERMIT FOR THE H THE HOUSE BEING BUILT.
IF I STOPPED IT, NOW THEY HAVE TO STOP BUILDING MY HOUSE AND EVERYTHING.
SO ANYHOW, I THINK THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE AND THAT, NO, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
I'VE LIVED THERE 41 YEARS AND NEVER KNEW ANYTHING, NEVER DID ANYTHING TO THE LAND.
BUT, UH, IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN A BIG LONG DRAG.
WHAT SAID, JUST TO CATCH OUT BUILDER FOR ME? YES.
FOR ME, IF I MAY REAL QUICK, UM, I HAVE ISSUES WITH THIS BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE INFRINGING ON PROPERTY OWNER'S RIGHTS NOW.
THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOREVER.
UH, THERE'S NO APPARENT PROBLEMS COME.
WHY IS THIS COMING UP NOW? AND THEN TO LIMIT PEOPLE WITH WHAT THEY CAN DO ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY? I'M A BIG PROBLEM WITH THAT.
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WELL, FIRST, UM, I SHARED MANY OF YOUR SEDIMENTS, BUT THAT'S WHERE I THINK, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE IMPORTANT TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC AND SOME OF THE, UH, LANDOWNERS, IS IF WE DON'T HAVE THESE RESTRICTIONS, IF WE DON'T, IF WE ALLOW, UM, YOU KNOW, THINGS TO HAPPEN ON THE EDGE, WHAT HAPPENS IS IT ENHANCES THE ENRO EROSION.UM, IT INCREASES THE EROSION AND IT STARTS TO CREATE, UM, AGAIN, LONGER TERM, UH, PROBLEMS AND ISSUES.
SO THIS IS REALLY TRYING TO BALANCE, WE WANT THE HOMEOWNERS TO BE HAPPY.
YOU KNOW, WE WANNA RESPECT, ESPECIALLY THE EXISTING HOMEOWNERS.
THAT'S WHY THIS WOULD BE MORE IN EFFECT FOR THE NEW HOMEOWNERS.
UM, BUT WE ALSO DON'T WANNA BE NAIVE TO THE FACT THAT IF WE JUST ALLOW PEOPLE TO DO WHAT THEY WANT, HOW THEY WANT, AGAIN, NOT KNOWING THE SIDE, THE LONG TERM SIDE EFFECTS, WHICH AGAIN, I WASN'T EVEN, UH, AWARE OF A LOT OF THE INTRICACIES OF, OF WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU TAKE OUT A TREE OR WHEN YOU MOVE DIRT, UM, AND SOIL AND, AND THINGS ALONG THE, THE CREEK BED.
UM, THAT'S WHY I WAS VERY HESITANT TO JUST, YOU KNOW, PROVE THE PLAN RIGHT AWAY.
WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS A HAPPY MEDIUM.
IT'S A BALANCE WHERE WE'RE NOT INFRINGING ON ANYONE'S RIGHTS, BUT WE'RE ALSO NOT BEING NAIVE TO PROTECT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT IS IS REALLY ONE OF THE TOWN'S, YOU KNOW, BIGGEST TREASURES, UH, 18 MILE CREEK.
AND ESPECIALLY FOR THE LONG TERM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THESE, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES YOU DON'T SEE FOR 50, A HUNDRED YEARS OUT.
UM, BUT THEY SLOWLY, UH, TAKE, TAKE THEIR TOLL.
AND IT'S, IT'S SMALL MEASURES LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW, THAT I THINK, UM, WOULD STRIKE A HAPPY BALANCE BETWEEN THE TWO.
SO I HEAR YOUR CONCERNS, BUT I ALSO THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER SIDE IS, I, I DISAGREE.
I THINK THAT IF WE'RE GONNA INFRINGE ON PEOPLE'S RIGHTS TO DO WHAT THEY WANT WITH THEIR PROPERTY, TO AN EXTENT, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WHY ARE THEY PAYING TAXES ON THE PROPERTY? I MEAN, DO YOU EVER, DO YOU GET WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS IS, WELL, YOU CAN'T DO THIS.
I THINK WE'RE OPENING UP A CAN OF WORMS AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE FLYING AROUND PEOPLE'S HOUSES AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE THIS AND, AND HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THIS PROPERTY HERE.
WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY YOU, I, I SHARED THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
AND THE DEC DOESN'T, DEC UH, KEEP AN EYE ON THIS STUFF.
AND THAT'S WHY WE DID CONSULT IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, WITH WITHDREW IN PARTICULAR OF WHAT'S ALREADY BEING ENFORCED.
WHAT'S ALL, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE HAVE TO PUT INTO THE TOWN CODE THAT'S NOT ALREADY, YOU KNOW, ENFORCED AND, AND WORK WITH WHAT ARE THE CURRENT LAWS.
UM, BUT I HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS IN TERMS OF EN ENFORCEMENT, AND THAT'S WHY WE BROUGHT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
'CAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ENFORCE IT.
UM, AND WE DID HAVE TO MODIFY QUITE A BIT SO THAT IT WAS ENFORCEABLE, UM, EASY TO EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC, UM, THE, THE MODIFICATIONS WERE MAKING, WE ALREADY HAVE A CODE.
IT'S JUST MAKING MODIFICATIONS TO IT.
UM, AND I, AND I DO FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE STRUCK A GOOD BALANCE WITH IT.
UH, BUT THAT'S WHY, AGAIN, I KNEW IT WAS GONNA BE A PROCESS, YOU KNOW, HEARING CONCERNS, UH, TONIGHT FROM THE ENGINEERING AND, AND A RESIDENT.
UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA DO ANYTHING THAT HASN'T BEEN COMPLETELY WELL THOUGHT OUT AND, AND IS A, A HAPPY MEDIUM THAT PROTECTS THE PROPERTY, PROTECTS THE LAND, BUT ALSO, UH, PROTECTS THE HOMEOWNER.
SO I'M OPEN TO, UH, SUGGESTIONS, BUT I WILL SAY A LOT OF IT WORK'S BEEN DONE.
AND I THINK A LOT OF YOUR CONCERNS, UH, IF WE WENT THROUGH THE DETAIL OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT REALLY TRANSLATES TO, I DON'T FEEL, YOU'D FEEL IT'S AN INFRINGEMENT.
AND I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, THE RESIDENTS WILL FEEL, UM, A, A CERTAIN, UH, APPRECIATION THAT, AGAIN, I, I WASN'T EVEN AWARE OF THE FACT THAT THIS IS AN AREA THAT WE HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT THAT IF WE DON'T HAVE SOME MEASURES IN PLACE, UM, 50, A HUNDRED YEARS FROM NOW, UM, IT'S NOT GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, THE BEAUTY THAT IT IS NOW.
WELL, YOU SAID THE PLANNING BOARD'S GONNA BE ENFORCEMENT.
UH, THAT'S CHANGED FROM THE LAST TIME.
AND THE FINE SCHEDULE CHANGED FROM THE LAST TIME, I THINK IT WAS $2,500 FOR AN OFFENSE.
AND I BROUGHT UP A QUESTION, YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
AND THEY'RE LIKE, OH NO, YOU CAN'T.
HOW ARE YOU GONNA CATCH SOMEONE DOING SOME WORK ON THEIR BACKYARD? CODE ENFORCEMENT CAN'T JUST GO WALKING ON SOMEONE'S YARD.
ARE WE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE COMING AND OFF THE PORCH, SNOOPING AROUND TO SEE WHAT PEOPLE ARE DOING? DO YOU SEE WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS? THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GONNA GET.
YEAH, I SEE WHERE YOU'RE GOING.
BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A FINE FOR LITTERING HOW MANY PEOPLE REALLY GET BUSTED FOR LITTERING? RIGHT, RIGHT.
UM, SHOULD WE NOT HAVE A, YOU KNOW, SHOULD WE SAY EVERYBODY CAN LITTER? YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THERE'S A HAPPY MEDIUM THERE THAT WE CAN FIND I DISAGREE ABOUT.
THAT'S WHAT LEGISLATION IS ALL ABOUT.
SO THERE'S ADDITIONAL REVISIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE, WELL, I THINK BASED ON LIKE'S FEEDBACK, I'M VERY OPEN TO, UM, WORKING, YOU KNOW, TO, TO RESOLVE CONCERNS.
I'M WORK, UH, CERTAINLY WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEIR ISSUES ADDRESSED.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HEARD FROM A RESIDENT, I'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, TAKE, UH, THEIR INPUT
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'CAUSE THEY LIVE RIGHT ON SOUTH CREEK.UM, AND I'M OPEN TO HEARING WHAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE BUILDER HAS TO SAY.
DO YOU WANT, PAUL, DO YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING? WELL, I'M JUST, I JUST THINK THAT THEY SHOULD CONTACT ALL THE PROPERTY OWNERS ON 18 MILE CREEK BECAUSE NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT THIS.
I MEAN, SHOULDN'T YOU BE NOTIFIED IF YOU'RE A PROPERTY OWNER THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A NEW REGULATION PUT ON THE BACK OF YOUR PROPERTY? WELL, THERE, THIS HAS BEEN, UH, IT'S NOT, NOT PUBLIC NUKE.
I MEAN, YOU GO TO ZONING, IF YOU GOT A, SOMEBODY'S GONNA PUT UP A SHED AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE, THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR PERSON GETS NOTIFIED.
THIS IS A LOT MORE THAN PUTTING UP A SHED.
I MEAN, YOU'RE GONNA TAKE SUCH THE USE OF SOME OF THESE'S PROPERTY ALL THE WAY DOWN 18 MILE CREEK FROM ONE SIDE OF HAMBURG TO THE OTHER.
IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, I, I, I'M NOT SAYING IT IS OR ISN'T, BUT I WILL SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN OUT IN THE PUBLIC FOR WELL OVER TWO YEARS.
WE'VE HELD PUBLIC MEETINGS AND THIS IS THE, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE FIRST, UH, NEGATIVE FEEDBACK THAT I'M AWARE OF.
I PERSONALLY WILL NEVER, NEVER KNEW ABOUT IT IF I DIDN'T COME TO THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING FOR MARINE'S BEHALF.
AND AT THAT POINT THEY SAID THAT THERE WAS A 60 FOOT LAW FROM THE IBANK, WHICH I KNEW NOTHING ABOUT, BUT I'M NOT A DEVELOPER.
AND THEN THEY SAID THEY COULD ASK AS MUCH PROPERTY THEY WANTED TO TAKE.
THEY COULD TAKE A HUNDRED, THEY COULD TAKE 200, WHATEVER THEY WANT, THEY COULD TELL ME THAT THEY NEED, THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID.
I MEAN, SARAH, I MEAN, YOU HAVE IT ON PUBLIC RECORD HERE BECAUSE THEY, THEY RECORD ALL THOSE MEETINGS.
AND THEN WHEN I REDID THE PLANS AND WENT BACK TO THE PLANNING BOARD, AT THAT POINT THEY SAID, WELL, HOW COME IT'S NOT ON THE MAIN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY? I SAID, BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T ASK FOR IT.
YOU ASKED FOR IT A NEW SUBDIVISION LOT FOR IT TO BE SHOWN ON THE SURVEY ON THAT LOT.
AND I GO, WELL, IF YOU DON'T GIVE IT TO US ON THE REMAINING 20 ACRES OF HER PROPERTY, WE'RE NOT GONNA VOTE ON IT.
AND BEING THAT SHE NEEDED TO GET A HOUSE BILL, 'CAUSE SHE HAS A CONTRACT OF SALE ON EVERYTHING ON A EXISTING HOUSE, WE HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO FIGURE AND FOR THEM TO MAKE A STATEMENT LIKE THAT, I THINK IT WAS TOTALLY WRONG.
CAN YOU REPEAT THAT AGAIN? WHAT THE, THEY SAID THAT, WHAT WAS THE CONDITION THAT THEY, THE CONDITION RIGHT.
IF WE DIDN'T GIVE THEM THE 60, THE A HUNDRED FOOT EASEMENT ON THE BACK OF HER EXISTING 20 ACRES, THAT THEY WOULD NOT VOTE IN FAVOR OF HER GETTING THE LOT SUBDIVIDED OFF HER 30 ACRE PARCEL.
AND WHAT, I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT ON THE BOOKS LAW DID THEY, THEY SAID THAT USE THE BASIS FOR THAT, AT THAT POINT THERE HAD A, THERE WAS A 60 FOOT REQUIRED CONSERVATION EASEMENT.
CONSERVATION EASEMENT IS SOMETHING THAT A INDIVIDUAL ASKED, ASKED THE GOVERNMENT FOR MM-HMM
NOT THE WAY THEY STATED IT TO ME.
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY WERE ASKING FOR MORE THAN 60 ANYWAYS.
YEAH, THEY TOLD ME THEY COULD ASK FOR ANYTHING THEY COULD ASK.
I SAID, WELL, GIVE US A NUMBER, AND THEY WOULDN'T COME UP WITH A NUMBER.
SO AT THAT POINT, MAUREEN AND I LOOKED AT EACH OTHER AND SAID, WELL, WHAT DO YOU WANNA GIVE 'EM A HUNDRED FEET? SHE SAID, OKAY, I'M NEVER GONNA BUILD BACK THERE A HUNDRED FEET AWAY FROM THE CREEK.
AND THAT'S HOW THE MEETING PROCEEDED AND THAT'S HOW WE GOT VOTED AND EVERYTHING PASSED.
I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THAT WAS RIGHT THE WAY THEY DID THAT.
WELL, SEAN, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO SAY? I THINK WE JUST TAKE THIS INPUT AND, UH, MAKE THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENTS TALKED ABOUT.
UM, I'LL TAKE, YOU KNOW, UH, I'LL MAYBE, UH, SIT DOWN WITH MIKE AND GO OVER AT LEAST THE CHANGES AND, AND, UH, WHETHER WE AGREE OR DISAGREE, LET'S AT LEAST, UH, YOU KNOW, MAKE, MAKE OURSELVES BOTH FULLY AWARE AND THEN WE CAN GO FROM THERE.
SO DO YOU WANNA, UH, DO YOU WANNA ACTION, ACTION THAT OR I NO, THE TABLE.
ALRIGHT, NOW WE GOT NUMBER SEVEN.
AND BETH, DO YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS THAT YOU WANNA MEET? MAKE SURE I'M A PART OF INCLUDING YOU FROM ON THIS OR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I THINK I SHARE THE SAME CONCERNS AS MIKE AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE HUNDRED BOOK THAT WAS BEING TALKED ABOUT.
UM, I HAVE CONCERNS WITH THAT.
I, I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS IN GENERAL WITH, WITH ANY RESTRICTIONS BEING PUT ON, ON THE RESIDENTS.
UM, I I, AND I KNOW THAT THERE WERE QUITE A FEW CONCERNS THAT WERE PRESENTED BY ENGINEERING, CODE ENFORCEMENT PLANNING IS WHY WE JUST WANT TO HEAR FROM THEM ON HOW THAT'S BEEN RESOLVED WITH THEIR SATISFACTION PRIOR TO EVEN DISCUSSING IT.
I SURE, I, I THINK A GOOD IDEA IS TO, UH, SEND A NOTIFICATION TO EVERYBODY WHO HAS PROPERTY TO THE CORRECT MM-HMM
AND SAY, LOOK, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO.
I MEAN, I'VE SEEN SOME THINGS OUT ON FACEBOOK TAKING FOR WHAT THEY'RE WORTH, BUT, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE PEOPLE WERE ON THERE WHEN THIS FIRST CAME UP AND THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, WELL, WHY AM I PAYING TAXES, LIKE I SAID TO YOU, YOU KNOW MM-HMM
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SO I, MAYBE PEOPLE AREN'T TOO AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.LIKE I SAID, WE REALLY HAVEN'T GOTTEN, UH, FEEDBACK.
WE'VE HAD PUBLIC MEETINGS, NO ONE SPOKE.
SO, UM, I'M CERTAINLY OPEN TO IT.
I DON'T WANNA DO SOMETHING THAT IF THERE'S A LOT OF OPPOSITION.
UM, BUT IT, IT WOULD BE NEWS TO ME.
WELL, UH, SEAN, I APPRECIATE, UH, YOUR WILLINGNESS TO LISTEN.
THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S SAYS A A LOT ABOUT YOU.
I'M, UH, I'M, I'M GRATEFUL FOR THAT.
UH, WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT NUMBER SEVEN HERE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN? I WANNA DO WITH THAT.
WELL, THAT'D BE THE SAME THING.
SIT WE TABLE THAT ONE AS WELL.
RIGHT? THERE'S NO POINT IN GOING CORRECT.
THEY'RE BOTH, UH, THEY'RE TIED TOGETHER.
SO WE'LL TABLE SIX AND SEVEN, MAYBE WE CAN GET A NOTICE OUT OR AT LEAST GET, UH, PEOPLE REPRESENTATIVE FROM PLANNING HERE AND ENGINEERING SO WE CAN KICK IT AROUND AT OUR NEXT MEETING.
UH, NUMBER EIGHT, BETH IS THE STANDING SIGNS THERE ON SHELDON.
THIS HAS BEEN, UM, AN ONGOING CONCERN WITH THE RESIDENTS ON SHELDON.
IT HAS COME BEFORE THE TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD.
UM, WE'VE ALSO DISCUSSED THIS WITH OUR POLICE CHIEF AND WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT WHO HAVE ALSO TRIED TO INTERVENE.
SO THIS WAS THE, THE STRATEGY THAT THE TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD IS RECOMMENDING.
UM, THE, THE ROAD, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH SHELDON, IT'S HALF ORCHARD PARK, HALF YEAH.
AND SO THE SITUATION THERE IS THAT WITH THE WINDHAM ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AT DROP OFF AND DISMISSAL TIME, THERE'S QUITE A BACKUP OF CARS THERE AND THEY'RE BLOCKING ONE ENTIRE LANE.
UM, THEY'RE BLOCKING DRIVEWAYS.
THERE'VE BEEN SOME SITUATIONS AND RESIDENTS CANNOT GET OUT.
IT'S SOMEWHAT ESCALATED RECENTLY WHERE THERE'S, I THINK, SOME ADDITIONAL TENSION WITH SOME OF THE, THE DRIVERS AND FRICTION.
AND, UM, THEN WHEN NEIGHBORS CAN EVEN GET OUT ON THE ROAD, IT'S, IT'S THEN BECOMES A ONE-WAY STREET AND YOU HAVE CARS MEETING HEAD ON.
UM, SO THIS IS THE SOLUTION THAT THEY FELT WOULD BE WORTH PURSUING.
IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT? ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD, PAUL? IS THAT NO, I, I, I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD RESOLUTION.
IT'S ONLY A SHORT, UH, UH, VICINITY.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE DRIVERS WOULD SAY, WELL, IT SAYS, NO, NO PARKING, WE'RE NOT PARKED, WE'RE STANDING HERE WAITING.
AND THE NEXT ONE IS TO APPOINT A GENTLEMAN TO THE, UH, TRAFFIC SAFETY.
YOU'VE GOT EIGHT MEMBERS, 10 POSITIONS, RIGHT? MM-HMM
SO SAM BLAZE IS A, A VILLAGE POLICE OFFICER AND HE HAS ATTENDED SEVERAL OF OUR MEETINGS, UM, AND HAS BEEN ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE, UH, TO THE CONVERSATION VERY NICELY.
IT'S GOOD TO HAVE SOMEONE WITH HIS PERSPECTIVE.
UM, THERE ALSO, WE HAVE SEVERAL INDIVIDUALS WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT BACKGROUND AND AS A VILLAGE, UH, POLICE OFFICER, AGAIN, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE HIS INPUT ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING AND ESPECIALLY, UH, SOME OF THE AREAS ARE IN GATEWAY AREAS, UH, BETWEEN THE TOWN AND THE VILLAGE.
SO HIS CONTRIBUTIONS HAVE BEEN VERY HELPFUL.
UH, EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THIS GENTLEMAN, SAM BLAZE? SURE.
UH, I KNOW ABOUT THIS BETH, UH, NUMBER 10, JOE, GO AHEAD.
UM, NO PARKING HERE TO CORNER.
IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR AGAIN WITH THIS AREA, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S PEOPLE PARKED THERE, IT'S, IT'S, UM, DANGEROUS AS YOU COME AROUND THAT, THAT CORNER.
UM, THE GREAT PART ABOUT, I JUST HAVE, THIS IS PROBABLY A GOOD TIME TO STOP AND SAY, 'CAUSE WE HAVE QUITE A FEW FROM TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD.
I'M ALWAYS IMPRESSED BECAUSE THE MEMBERS OF THE TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD, INCLUDING MIKE BENNETT, UM, SO PASS THIS ON TO, TO MIKE.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE REALLY JUST TERRIFIC BECAUSE THEY GO OUT AND ACTUALLY GO ON THE SITE.
UM, AND, AND LOOK AND THEY HAVE SUCH DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES AND WEALTH OF INFORMATION AND THEY TAKE EACH OF THESE SITUATIONS AND LOOK AT IT FROM ALL ANGLES TO TRY TO COME UP WITH THE BEST SOLUTION FOR VEHICLE AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.
UM, SO IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THEY'RE RECOMMENDING A NO PARKING HERE TO CORNER.
YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU LOOK AT, UH, NEAR THE ROGERS ROAD ENTRANCE AND ON THE OTHER ENTRANCE ON THE WESTERN, WESTERN TERMINUS TOO, GETTING IN AND OUT OF THERE, GETTING OUT AND TURNING AGAINST THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC IS A WHITE KNUCKLE EXPERIENCE.
POINT OF ORDER, IS THAT IN, UH, PARAGRAPH THREE? WHERE THIRD, WHERE IS, UM, IT SAYS NO PARKING THIS SIDE.
THAT SHOULD BE AMENDED TO GO PARKING HERE AT CORNER.
NO PARKING HERE TO CORNER INITIALLY.
IN THE SECOND PARAGRAPH IT SAYS NO PARKING HERE TO CORNER OVER THE THIRD PARAGRAPH AS WELL.
HERE TO CORNER, NO PARKING HERE.
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WE CAN MAKE THAT, UH, AMENDMENT ON THE FLOOR.THIS IS, OH, THIS IS, YEAH, I KNOW THIS IS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE FOOTBALL GAMES.
AND THERE'S BEEN QUITE A FEW COMPLAINTS THERE,
UM, THE, THE TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD, AGAIN TALKED ABOUT THIS, UH, AND CAME, THEIR SOLUTION WOULD BE THE NO PARKING THE SIDE DURING, UH, THE GAMES.
UH, THEY FEEL THAT THIS WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.
THEY HAVE THE, THE POPUP SIGNS.
UM, SO I KNOW THEY HAD A, A GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS ALSO.
AND, AND THERE WERE MEMBERS WHO AGAIN, WENT ON SITE TOO TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE SITUATION.
SO THIS WOULD BE A CASE JUST DURING HOME GAMES AND, UM, AND EVENTS.
THAT'S WHY THEY'RE USING THE POPUP SIGNS.
UM, WE SPOKE TO A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS.
I KNOW YOU DID INITIALLY THERE WAS SOME KICKBACK, BUT WHEN THEY UNDERSTOOD THERE WASN'T GOING TO BE NO PARKING ON BOTH SIDES.
YEAH, WE MODIFIED IT WORK THAT THEY WERE VERY HAPPY.
THIS IS THE MULTIMODAL PROJECT, BETH.
RIGHT? THIS IS THE TAP APPLICATION.
IT HAS A, UM, WEDNESDAY AT FIVE DEADLINE.
SO THIS IS FOR THAT PARTICULAR APPLICATION.
DOES EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT THAT IS? OKAY.
THE NEXT IS, UH, YOUTH RECREATION, UH, JUST MOVEMENTS, UH, WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT FROM, UH, UH, ALL SEASONAL PART-TIME, PRIMARILY ATTENDANCE AND DISMISSAL OF LIFEGUARDS.
SEAN, YOU WANNA TAKE OVER FOR KAREN? THIS IS, UH, SH SEAN CROWLEY.
THIS, UH, THIS IS THE MOTION TO APPOINT THE, UH, TWO FOLKS, KENNETH KRAMER AND CHRISTOPHER SCHMIDT FULL-TIME DISPATCH OFFICERS.
WE GOT TWO VACANCIES, FULL-TIME VACANCIES, RIGHT? CORRECT.
SO IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF ADDING A NEW FULL-TIME POSITION, IT'S JUST FILLING THE TWO THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN.
AND NOW TELL US A LITTLE BIT, SO I KNOW WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS FOR BUDGET PURPOSES IN TERMS OF THE FOUR, UH, WE GOT FOUR PART-TIMERS NOW.
OPTIMALLY, WHAT SHOULD WE HAVE GOING FORWARD, GIVING RETIREMENTS AND ALL THAT PART-TIMERS, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? WELL, I'M, I'M HOPING TO GET, UH, A FIFTH ONE ADDED SO THAT WE CAN START TO TRAIN, UH, BECAUSE IT IS A YEAR LONG TRAINING PROCESS.
SO IF WE COULD START TO TRAIN 'EM, UH, POTENTIAL SUITORS NEXT YEAR, FIRST AT THE END OF THE YEAR AS WELL.
SO WE HAVE ONE RETIRING AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, AND THEN TWO POTENTIALLY BY THE END OF NEXT YEAR.
UM, SO WE'RE, WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TURNOVER AND IT'S A LONG TRAINING, UH, PROCESS.
SO WE'RE HOPING TO KIND OF GET A HEAD START ON THAT, UM, AS WE MOVE THROUGH 2022.
ADDING THAT EXTRA POSITION WOULD ALLOW US TO EVALUATE OUR POTENTIAL FOR THOSE FULL-TIME POSITIONS.
SEAN, IF I MAY, WHEN YOU, UH, HIRE YOUR PART-TIMERS, ARE YOU TRYING TO HIRE PEOPLE THAT ALREADY TOOK THE TASK TO TRY AND GET 'EM THAT TIME IN? IS THAT, DO YOU GO ABOUT THAT WAY? SO TYPICALLY IT HASN'T BEEN THAT WAY BEFORE, BUT SINCE WE HAVE TURNOVER COMING, WE, YOU KNOW, UM, WE HIRED, UH, CONNOR MOSES WAS THE RECENT ONE WHO HIRED.
HE BEGAN TO TRAIN AND HE ENDED UP, UM, SUCCESSFULLY GETTING A POSITION FULL TIME.
SO IT DOES ALLOW US TO, UM, TO DO THAT.
SO I JUST HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF WHERE WE ARE ON THE LIST, UH, BECAUSE WE HAVE, UH, RIGHT NOW THESE CANDIDATES THAT WE'RE SELECTED FROM ARE FROM THE 95 AND 90 GROUP.
AND THE GROUP, UH, AGAIN, THE 90 GROUP IS REALLY, REALLY LARGE.
SO THE CHANCES THAT WE WOULD GET, YOU KNOW, DOWN TO 80 FIVES IS MINIMUM, YOU KNOW, VERY, VERY, UM, CHANCES, VERY SMALL RIGHT.
RIGHT NOW, BUT TOWARDS THE END OF THE NEXT YEAR IT'S, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY GET THERAPY TO HAVE A, A PERSON IN THAT, IN THAT GROUP THAT WE CAN DRAW FROM AS WELL.
SO, UM, FLUSHING, UH, SO THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING, JUST TO TRY AND CUT DOWN THAT TRAINING TIME RIGHT.
SO TRYING TO PROJECT OUT AND DO SOME LONG RANGE PLANNING ON THAT ASPECT.
AND THEY, THEY BOTH WILL BE PRESENT AT THE MEETING, SO IF I COULD BE ASKED A FAVOR AND MOVE IT TO THE FRONT SO THAT WE CAN ALRIGHT.
PRESENT THEM BEFORE THE BOARD AND THAT'S OKAY.
YOU SURE? OH, WELL WE CAN MOVE THAT RIGHT AFTER.
HOW ABOUT BEFORE WE DO THE PROCLAMATION FOR DUKE SPITLER? WE'LL,
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WE'LL MOVE IT UP TO, UH, UH, RIGHT AFTER THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING.I'M ASSUMING THIS ONE'S MINE SINCE IT'S NOT IT'S
SO ANYWAY, WE'VE GOT MIKE, WE'VE GOT A, A, A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE WHO'S OUT AGAIN WITH ANOTHER INJURIES, COUPLE DIFFERENT PROBLEMS. AND, UH, AS YOU KNOW, UH, ROGER FELT THAT, UH, WE NEEDED TO GET SOMEBODY THAT KNEW WHAT KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING IN A HURRY.
SO, JEFF ADRIAN HAD WORKED FOR US, RETIRED AND IS AVAILABLE TO COME BACK PART-TIME TO HELP US OUT.
HOW MUCH, HOW LONG WE NEED 'EM? UH, MIKE, I DON'T KNOW, BUT YOU KNOW BETTER THAN I WELL, IT'S GONNA DEPEND HOW THINGS TURN OUT.
WITH THE EMPLOYEE WHO'S, WHO'S OUTTA WORK NOW.
ALRIGHT, THE NEXT ONE IS, UH, UH, TO CONFER UPON KIMBERLY SANA, UH, THE AUTHORITIES AUTHORITY OF BEING A TOWN CONTROLLER UNDER TOWN LAW.
UH, ONLY A TOWN CLERK OR A TOWN CONTROLLER CAN AUTHORIZE VOUCHERS SO WE CAN APPOINT SOMEBODY, UH, WITH THE AUTHORITY OF A TOWN CONTROLLER.
WE DON'T HAVE SUCH AN OFFICE HERE AT HAMBURG, AND WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST FOR THE FINANCE DIRECTOR.
SO, UH, I'M HOPING YOU CAN DO THAT AGAIN SO WE CAN SMOOTHLY PROCESS THE VOUCHERS.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT ONE? AND I WANNA TELL YOU I'M VERY, VERY HAPPY.
I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH KIM ANA.
SHE'S DOING A WONDERFUL JOB, UH, WITH ME AS WE STUMBLE THROUGH
AS YOU KNOW, TARA, UH, BECAME THE, UH, PERSONNEL DIRECTOR.
AND SO NOBODY, UH, IS THERE TO, UH, UH, HELP ME, UH, FIND MY WAY FROM THE DESK TO THE, TO THE CONFERENCE ROOM.
SO, UH, I'VE ASKED MY, I HAVE A STEPDAUGHTER KELLY, AND SHE WORKS 19 HOURS A WEEK, UH, I'M SORRY, 20 HOURS A WEEK AT A DENTAL OFFICE AS A MEDICAL SECRETARY, AND SHE'S WILLING TO HELP ME OUT.
AND, UH, KELLY, AS YOU MAY KNOW, UH, HER HUSBAND WAS A POLICE OFFICER WHO GOT KILLED, AND SHE, WITH THE HELP OF DONNA AND I HAVE BEEN RAISING HER THREE TEENAGE SONS WHO ARE GREAT CREDIT TO HER.
ANYWAY, SHE'S GONNA WORK, UH, 30, 40 HOURS A WEEK, BUT ONLY BE PAID HALFTIME FOR 19 HOURS A WEEK.
UH, AND WE CAN SAVE MONEY AND STILL GET THE WORK DONE.
SO HOPEFULLY YOU CAN, UH, YOU CAN APPRECIATE MY NEED TO DO THAT.
WE GOT, OH, ON THE BONITO THING, YOU KNOW, UH, I SHOULD POINT OUT THIS SAYS, RESOLVED THE TOWN SUPERVISORS AUTHORIZED TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH BONITO, UH, AND COMPANY LLP FOR ACCOUNTING SERVICES.
ACTUALLY, I MAY MOVE TO AMEND THIS BECAUSE WE DON'T, THE WOMAN THAT THEY SENT OVER IS WONDERFUL.
UH, SHE'S FROM OGDENSBURG, UH, AND SHE IS A, UH, A CONTROLLER AND A, UH, A, A MANAGER, UH, HAS HAD TERRIFIC EXPERIENCE, BUT SHE'S NOT AN ACCOUNTANT.
WHAT SHE'S GONNA BE DOING IS GIVING US FINANCIAL ADVICE AND CONSULTING SERVICES.
UH, SHE'S REACHING OUT TO THE, UH, RENTAL AGENCY ON THE CARS AND, AND ALSO GIVING, UH, KIM AND I A PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT CAN OR CAN'T BE DONE WITH REVENUES AND EXPENSES.
AND WE'VE ONLY MET FRIDAY IS HER FIRST DAY.
UH, BUT I THINK SHE'S GONNA BE VERY, VERY HELPFUL TO US.
SO THAT'S THE PITCH ON, ON THIS ONE.
WE MAY NOT HAVE TO HAVE HER, YOU LOOK AT THE END OF THE CONTRACT, IT SAYS SHE'S GONNA BE AVAILABLE FOR ALL THESE DAYS STARTING THE THURSDAY THE 23RD.
UH, SHE ACTUALLY CAME IN ON THE 24TH.
WE COULDN'T GET HER IN ON THE 23RD, BUT AS I SAID TO HER, WE'RE NOT GONNA NEED YOU, UH, FOR THE FULL TIME.
AND MAYBE IN NOVEMBER WE CAN DISPENSE WITH THE SERVICES.
BUT SO FAR, KIM, WHAT DO YOU THINK? I THINK SHE'S PRETTY GOOD.
SHE CAME UP WITH SOME GOOD IDEAS.
SHE WAS THE MANAGER FOR BERG, UM, THE CITY MANAGER.
SO SHE CAME UP WITH SOME GOOD IDEAS, UM, SOME THINGS TO CHECK, LIKE THE RENTAL CAR OR THE REVENUE, UM, HER LEASING BILLS, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THEY ENTERED INTO A CONTRACT TOUR AND WITH A LOT OF THE DEPARTMENTS NEEDING VEHICLES THE POLICE HAVE DONE TO SELL TO THE DEPARTMENTS THIS YEAR.
SO IT COULD BE A COST EFFECTIVE WAY TO KIND OF DO THAT.
SO SHE'S COMING UP WITH SOME GOOD IDEAS, I THINK.
SO ANYWAY, WE'LL SEE, MAYBE WE CAN, WE CAN GET OUT, UH, WITHOUT SPENDING AS MUCH AS WE THOUGHT WE'D SPEND, BUT I, BUT I THINK WE NEED THE HELP.
UH, IS THAT THE END OF THE STUFF, SU
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SUPERVISOR? I MAY, YES SIR.WE GO BACK, UH, ON, ON YOUR HIRE.
UH, I KNOW YOU CALLED ME EARLIER ABOUT THIS.
UH, I HAVE BEEN AGAINST THESE THINGS FOR A WHILE AND, AND I CAN'T DO IT, SO I JUST, SORRY.
WELL, OKAY, LET ME, LET ME SAY THIS TO YOU.
LOOK AT, I RESPECT WHATEVER YOU DECIDE, YOU KNOW, YOU AND I GO BACK A LONG WAY.
THIS IS NO TIME TO START GETTING SELF RIGHTEOUS WITH ME.
COME ON, I'LL FINISH MY WHOLE FOUR YEARS BEEN DOING.
THERE HAVE BEEN SOME OCCASIONS, OKAY.
WHEN YOU HAVE NOT BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT HIRING RELATIVES.
PLEASE LET ME SAY THIS TO YOU.
I DIDN'T COME TO YOU AND SAY, I NEED A FULL-TIME SECRETARY FOR THE BALANCE OF THE YEAR.
I'M TRYING TO SAVE SOME MONEY.
SO IT REALLY IS THE SUPERVISOR'S APPOINTMENT, RIGHT? AND QUITE FRANKLY, THE SUPERVISOR OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE AS MUCH LEEWAY AS YOU WOULD'VE APPOINTING SECRETARIES TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU'RE SAVING MONEY.
NOW, KELLY
WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT HIRING RELATIVES.
IT'S LOADED WITH RELATIVES, 2, 3, 4 IN A FAMILY, EXTENDED FAMILIES.
SO, TO BE QUITE FRANK WITH YOU, I NEED HELP AND I NEED HELP NOW.
AND I HAVE FAITH THAT SHE CAN DO A GOOD JOB FOR ME.
YOU DO WHAT YOU THINK YOU WANT TO DO.
UH, BUT I'LL MAKE THE MOTION AND HOPEFULLY I'VE GOT THE THREE VOTES AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE.
ALRIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE WE SHOULD DISCUSS? YES, SIR.
WELL, WE'VE GOT A HALF AN HOUR LEFT.
SO CAN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT PLEASE, BETH, MAYBE YOU KNOW ABOUT THE $750,000 FOR CLARK AND MCKINLEY? YES.
COULD YOU TELL US? WELL, I BELIEVE, UM, I DON'T KNOW, CAN WE, HOW MUCH CAN BE YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN LET 'EM KNOW.
TALK TO, I MEAN, GENERAL TERMS, BUT IT, IT, THE DETAILS I THINK ARE GONNA STILL BE ANNOUNCED, BUT RIGHT.
GENERAL COMING, BUT AS, AS EVERYONE IS WELL AWARE, WE'VE BEEN WORKING FOR OVER TWO YEARS, UM, TO COME UP WITH A RESOLUTION FOR IMPROVING THE SAFETY AT CLARK AND MCKINLEY.
UM, BEEN A NUMBER OF PEOPLE INVOLVED.
UM, GOING BACK TO THAT FIRST SITE VISIT WHEN WE INVOLVED, UH, THE COUNTY, DOT GINA HAS BEEN A WONDERFUL ASSISTANCE THROUGHOUT IT.
WE'VE DEVELOPED A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PLANS WITH, UH, CAMI'S HEALTH AND, UH, OUR PREDECESSOR.
UH, WE'VE LOOKED AT MANY THINGS, BUT ALL ALONG THE WAY, AND YOU MIGHT REMEMBER IN THE LAST PRESENTATION I GAVE TO THE BOARD, UM, YOU KNOW, THE FUNDING WAS ALWAYS THE ISSUE.
SO WE HAVE BEEN DILIGENT IN LOOKING FOR, UM, DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES AND ALSO, UH, UH, WE HAD SEVERAL DIFFERENT OPTIONS, YOU KNOW, THE BASIC OPTION TO JUST TAKE CARE OF THE LIGHT.
AND THEN IDEALLY THERE WERE OTHER PLANS THAT CAMMIE HELPED US CREATE WHERE IT TOOK CARE OF, UM, A DA SITUATIONS AT THE INTERSECTION AND, AND SIDEWALKS, ET CETERA.
BUT OF COURSE, EACH, EACH OPTION, THE PRICE TAG, UM, GREW AND, AND IT BECAME MORE AND MORE INCUMBENT THAT WE, THAT WE FIND A FUNDING SOURCE.
AND IT, UM, WOULD APPEAR THAT THE COUNTY AND, UH, I BELIEVE MR. GILMORE, JOHN GILMORE AS, AS JOHN MILK GILMORE THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE COUNTY, HAS BEEN ABLE TO SECURE SOME OF THEIR FUNDING FOR A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.
AND, UH, CLARK AND MCKINLEY WILL BE SLATED AS ONE OF THOSE.
AND I BELIEVE WE'VE BEEN TOLD 750,000 FOR THAT INTERSECTION.
THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT WILL STILL NEED TO BE DONE TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT IS UH, WHAT WILL BE THE FINAL PLAN FOR IMPROVING THAT INTERSECTION AND ANY OF THE CONNECTIVITY GOING OUT IN ALL FOUR DIRECTIONS.
BUT IT'S, UH, IT EXCITING NEWS AFTER VERY LONG TIME OF, UH, LOOKING FOR THE BEST SOLUTION AND LOOKING FOR A WAY TO FUND THAT BEST SOLUTION.
UH, SO I'M, I'M THRILLED THAT THIS, UH, MONEY WILL BE COMING OUR WAY
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AND THAT WE CAN START TO WORK ON, UM, A PLAN THAT IS, UH, AGREEABLE TO EVERYONE.I THOUGHT THAT, HUH? IT'S, IT'S ALL BEFORE ME.
WELL, IT'S A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT.
JUST STARTED TO GET, YES, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE.
BOB, WE JUST STARTED GOT THE INFORMATION.
WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF PARTICULARS.
I KNOW, AS SEAN SAID, THERE'LL BE SOME ANNOUNCEMENTS TO, UH, FORTHCOMING, BUT, UM, WE ARE THRILLED THAT IT LOOKS LIKE FINALLY THIS PROJECT WILL BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD.
AT THIS POINT, I'M JUST A HUGE THANKS TO JOHN GILMORE FOR PUSHING THROUGH THE FUNDING.
'CAUSE AS BETH SAID, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK.
UH, CAMMY'S DONE A LOT OF WORK, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE HOST OF PEOPLE, HAMBURG MOVES COMMITTEE.
UM, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WITHOUT FUNDING, YOU KNOW, UH, AFTER A DECADE OF PEOPLE IDENTIFYING IT AS A, A BIT OF A PROBLEM AREA, UM, EVEN GOING BACK TO PAUL BECKER WHEN, YOU KNOW, HE STARTED TO EXPAND OUTSIDE THE VILLAGE TO HELP THE TOWN WITH, UH, CONNECTIVITY.
UH, SO JUST THE FACT THAT, UM, JOHN WAS ABLE TO COME THROUGH IS JUST HUGE.
AND, UH, AND SO AGAIN, FORTHCOMING JOHN WILL BE, UM, YOU KNOW, LEADING AN EFFORT TO ANNOUNCE AND, AND, AND, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, COLLECTIVELY WITH THE COUNTY, THE TOWN, AND ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS WORK TOGETHER TO SEE IT, UH, THROUGH FRUITION.
MARK MALKI WORKED ON THIS PREVIOUSLY, SO THAT, AND THAT WAS PARTLY WHY OUR TAP APPLICATION TOOK A LITTLE BIT OF A CHANGE OF DIRECTION TOO, ONCE WE FOUND OUT THAT THIS, UM, FUNDING WAS GONNA BE AVAILABLE FOR CLARK AND MCKINLEY.
SO THERE'S BEEN A, A LOT OF, A LOT OF PEOPLE, UM, AND I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE INVOLVED GOING FORWARD TOO, AS THIS, AS THIS PROJECT, UM, TAKES OFF.
ANYTHING ELSE FOLKS? WE'VE GOT A HALF AN HOUR BEFORE THE, UH, STARTING BILL HERE.
WELL, IN THAT CASE, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL SEE EACH OTHER IN A HALF AN HOUR.
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A MOTION TO CALL THE REGULAR MEETING FROM THE TOWN OF HAMBURG TOWN BOARD FOR 9 27 21 TO ORDER.WOULD YOU BE KIND ENOUGH TO, UH, RAISE LEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? THANK YOU.
PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
THANK YOU MADAM CLERK, WILL YOU CALL THE ROLE SUPERVISOR SHAW? HERE.
OKAY, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE FIRST LINE OF BUSINESS IS TO, UH, UH, DEAL WITH THE MINUTES RESOLVE OF THE HE DOWN BOARD IS HEREBY APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS AS FOLLOWS, 9 13 21 MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING, 9 13 21 MINUTES OF WORK SESSION 9 22 21 MINUTES OF EXECUTIVE BOARD SESSION.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND.
SECOND IS MR. CONLEY ON THE QUESTION.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I JUST WANT TO ANNOUNCE TO YOU THAT WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION TO READ, UH, AND TO CONSIDER.
SO WITH YOUR PERMISSION, I'LL READ IT AND I'M JUST GONNA GIVE YOU A FEW INTRODUCTORY REMARKS BEFORE I READ ABOUT MY FRIEND THE LATE DUKE SPITLER.
UH, HE WAS NOT ONLY A MEMBER OF THE GREATEST GENERATION OF WORLD WAR II VETERAN, BUT HE WAS A REMARKABLE, UH, FAMILY MAN AND DEVOTED PUBLIC SERVANT.
HE WAS THE, UH, CHARTER MEMBER OF THE HAMBURG CONSERVATION ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER OF THE PLANNING BOARD.
AND HE WAS SO ACTIVE IN THE LAKEVIEW COMMUNITY WHERE HE LIVED AND RAISED HIS FAMILY.
UH, I'VE KNOWN A LOT OF GREAT PEOPLE IN MY LIFETIME FEW COME INTO THE SAME UH, LEVEL AS DUKE SPITLER.
SO HAVING SAID THAT, LET ME READ TO YOU THE PROCLAMATION.
WHEREAS DONALD J SPITLER KNOWN TO HIS FAMILY AND SCORES OF FRIENDS AS DUKE WAS ONE, WAS A TOWN OF HAMBURG LEGEND.
AND WHEREAS DUKE SPITLER SERVED OUR COMMUNITY FOR OVER 35 YEARS, PRIMARILY AS A PLANNING BOARD AND CONSERVATION BOARD MEMBER.
AND WHEREAS DUKE FOSTER A DEEP APPRECIATION FOR THE PRESERVATION OF OPEN SPACE, GREEN SPACE, AND THE HEALTH OF THE OUR ENVIRONMENT.
AND WHEREAS AS A HAMBURG HISTORIAN AND WORLD WAR II VETERAN DUKE'S COMMITMENT TO OUR COUNTRY AND THE HAMBURG COMMUNITY CHARACTERIZED HIS ENTIRE ADULT LIFE RESOLVED THAT THIS PROCLAMATION SHALL BE GIVEN TO DUKE'S FAMILY AS A REMEMBRANCE OF HIS SERVICE.
AND THE SPITLER POND PLAQUE SHALL BE FOREVER DISPLAYED IN THE PLANNING OF DEPARTMENT OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG.
IT'S A WONDERFUL TRIBUTE TO A GREAT, GREAT GUY.
AND WE'LL FIND A PLACE, UH, IN THAT DEPARTMENT TO PROMINENTLY DISPLAY IT NOW AND FOR ALL TIMES.
SO, UH, THAT'S THE MO THAT'S THE MOTION.
IS THERE A UNANIMOUS SECOND FOR DUKE? YES.
MARK, SHALL I GIVE THIS PROCLAMATION TO YOU OR TO UH, TO YOU SIR? DUKE'S PROCLAMATION.
DO YOU WANT TO GIVE THAT TO UH, I'LL GIVE IT TO THE SON.
I KNOW CHIP, I HAVEN'T SEEN HIM IN A LONG TIME.
HE'S OUT CHASING IN WILDLIFE UP WYOMING.
AND THIS, BY THE WAY THAT YOU GAVE ME, THIS WILL BE HUNG UP DOWNSTAIRS IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT FOR DUKE.
MOVE UP THE, UH, YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.
UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN WILL TAKE OUT OF ORDER, UH, THE PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCH, UH, APPOINTMENTS, THAT'S NUMBER 14 ON THE AGENDA.
RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVES THE APPOINTMENTS OF KENNETH M. KRAMER AND CHRISTOPHER S. SCHMIDT TO THE VACANT FULL-TIME SAFETY DISPATCH POSITIONS PROBATIONARY EFFECTIVE 10 10 21.
MR. KRAMER AND MR. SCHMIDT HAVE MET THE CIVIL SERVICE REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS POSITION
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AND ARE CURRENTLY ON THE CIVIL SERVICE LIST, EX NUMBER 67 DASH 2 0 1.THESE APPOINTMENTS ARE SUBJECT TO ALL THE PRECONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO A PHYSICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL EVALUATION.
THE SALARY IS 24 0 4 PER HOUR, AND FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT 30 20.1 HUNDRED.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? SECOND.
SECOND IS MR. CONLEY ON THE QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
UH, SEAN, YOU WANNA INTRODUCE SIR? YEP.
CHRIS SCHMID THAT'S HERE, AND KENNETH KRAMER TALKING ABOUT HIS WIFE MORGAN.
SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THEY COME WITH SOME, UH, REALLY GREAT LIFE EXPERIENCE AND SOME PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICE ALREADY.
SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO GET THEM IN THE DOOR AND GET THEM TRAINED UP AND I THINK THEY'RE GONNA BE A GREAT ADDITION AND CONTRIBUTION TO OUR, NOT ONLY OUR DISPATCH OFFICE, BUT OUR, SO JUST WANNA THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN, UH, BRINGING THESE TWO GENTLEMEN THE DOOR.
WE RESOLVE THAT TOM BOARD APPROVES THE HIRING AND TERMINATION OF THE FOLLOWING IN THE BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS DEPARTMENT.
UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THERE ARE, UH, EIGHT, UH, DESIGNATIONS HERE FOR TERMINATION AND THEN RETURN TO FULL-TIME EMPLOYMENT.
NO NEW HIRES OR MOTION, UH, TO APPROVE THE ATTACHED LIST, UH, IS MADE.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND.
SECOND IS MR. PEACHER ON THE QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE A.
THANK YOU TO, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE, UH, RESOLUTION SIX.
UH, ANYONE ON THE QUESTION? ALL IN FAVOR OF TABLING THIS FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION, PLEASE SAY AYE.
THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED MR. CONLEY NUMBER SEVEN.
MOTION TO TABLE NUMBER SEVEN AS WELL.
MS. FERRELL IS ON THE SECOND SECOND ON THE QUESTION.
AYE LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'RE TABLING THESE MR. CONLEY'S SUGGESTION, UH, TO GET FURTHER INPUT FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT FROM RESIDENTS, AND, UH, AS SOON AS THAT, THAT INFORMATION AND INPUT CAN BE WE'LL DEAL WITH IT AGAIN.
THANK UH, NUMBER EIGHT, UH, MS. SPARROW THERE HAS AN INCREASE IN TRAFFIC AT LINDON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ON SHELDON DRIVE IN THE TOWNS OF HAMBURG AND RIDGE PARK HAS CAUSED THE TRAFFIC AND SAFETY HAZARD TO VEHICLES, PEDESTRIANS, AND RESIDENTS FROM VEHICLES LINING SHELDON ROAD.
HIS PARENTS LINE UP TO DROP OFF OR PICK UP THEIR CHILDREN AT THE SCHOOL AND WHEREAS AT PRESENT THERE EXISTS ON THAT PORTION OF SHELDON ROAD WITHIN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, NO PARKING SIGNS, THUS ALLOWING DRIVERS TO STAND ON THE HAMBURG SIDE OF SHELDON ROAD WHILE WAITING FOR OTHER VEHICLES TO MOVE INTO POSITION TO DROP OFF OR PICK UP CHILDREN.
AND WHERE IS REVIEW OF THIS SITUATION? BY MEMBERS OF THE TOWN TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD AND OTHERS HAS SHOWN THAT THIS SITUATION IS DANGEROUS AND COULD POTENTIALLY GET MORE SO WITH THE ONSET OF THE WINTER MONTHS WITH SNOW, ICE, AND SNOW PILES.
AND WHERE THE HAMBURG TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD HAS VOTED AND RECOMMENDS THE INSTALLATION OF A NO STANDING THIS SIDE SIGN ON SHELDON ROAD IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, IN THE VIC VICINITY OF WYNDHAM ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AT APPROPRIATE DISTANCES.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZED THE INSTALLATION OF SAID SIGNS AND THE TRAFFIC SAFETY COORDINATOR SHALL GENERATE THE REQUIRED WORK ORDER FOR THIS PROJECT TO BE COMPLETED.
FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT DB 510.0205 SIGNS AND SIGNALS.
ANYBODY? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
WHERE IS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG? TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD IS TO BE COMPRISED OF 10 MEMBERS, NOT INCLUDING THE LIAISON FROM THE TOWN COUNCIL AND WHERE IS AT PRESENT? THE TOWN'S TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD IS COMPOSED OF EIGHT MEMBERS.
AND WHEREAS AT THE 9 16 21 MEETING OF THE TOWN TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD, THE MEMBERS INTERVIEWED SAM BLAZE, A TOWN RESIDENT AND VILLAGE OF HAMBURG POLICE OFFICER.
AND WHEREAS THE TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD VOTED TO RECOMMEND TO THE TOWN BOARD TO ADD SAME SAM BLAZE TO THEIR COMMITTEE, NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED WITH THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD, APPOINT MR. SAM BLAZE TO THE TOWN'S TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY AND ENDING 12 31 21.
THERE ARE NO FISCAL IMPLICATIONS.
THERE IS A SLIGHT AMENDMENT, I'LL READ IT AS AMENDED.
WHERE IS THE CORNER OF ROUTE FIVE AND CLIFTON PARKWAY? WESTBOUND IN THE VICINITY OF ROGERS ROAD PRESENTS A SAFETY HAZARD FOR WESTBOUND ROUTE FIVE TRAFFIC
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TURNING RIGHT ONTO CLIFTON PARKWAY FROM ROUTE FIVE WHEN A VEHICLE OR VEHICLES ARE PARKED ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF CLIFTON PARKWAY IN THE VICINITY OF ROUTE FIVE.AND WHERE IS THE PLACEMENT OF A NO PARKING HERE TO CORNER SIGN ON THE CORNER OF ROUTE FIVE AND CLIFTON PARKWAY IN FRONT OF THE RESIDENCE AT 4 6 0 2 LAKE SHORE ROAD ON THE CLIFTON PARKWAY SIDE WOULD REDUCE THE POTENTIAL FOR AN ACCIDENT CAUSED BY VEHICLES PARKED AT THAT LOCATION.
AND WHERE IS THE HAMBURG TRA TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD HAS VOTED AND RECOMMENDS THE INSTALLATION OF A NO PARKING HERETO CORNER SIGN ON CLIFTON PARKWAY AT 4 6 0 2 LAKE SHORE ROAD.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES THE INSTALLATION OF SAID SIGN ON CLIFTON PARKWAY AND THE TRAFFIC SAFETY COORDINATOR SHALL GENERATE THE REQUIRED WORK ORDER FOR THIS PRODUCT TO BE COMPLETED.
FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT DB 510 0 2 5 SIGNS AND SIGNALS SO MOVED.
I'LL SECOND THAT ON THE QUESTION.
WHERE MANOR LANE, MARYLAND DRIVE AND KATHLEEN STREET ARE LOCATED IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA OFF ROUTE 20 A IN PARKER ROAD IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG.
AND WHEREAS THE TOWN SUPERVISOR, HAMBURG, POLICE CHIEF AND PATROL AS WELL AS THE HAMBURG TRAFFIC SAFETY COORDINATOR HAS RECEIVED, HAVE RECEIVED COMPLAINTS FROM RESIDENTS THAT ON BILLS, BUFFALO BILLS GAME DAYS, BILLS FANS DRIVE THEIR VEHICLES THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD LOOKING FOR FREE PARKING LOCATIONS CAUSING TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC BACKUP AND CONGESTION.
ROSA RESULTING IN A DANGER TO RESIDENTS AND CHILDREN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND WHEREAS SAID, BILLS FANS THEREAFTER PARKED THE CARS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREETS, OFTEN IN RESIDENTS LAWNS AND ELSEWHERE RESULTING IN TRAFFIC CONGESTION AFFECTING RESIDENTS.
AND WHEREAS FANS WALKING BETWEEN THEIR CARS AND THE STADIUM WALK ON RESIDENTS LAWNS, SCATTERED DEBRIS AND TRASH IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND DISTURBED THE COMMUNITY FROM EARLY ON GAME DAYS THROUGHOUT THE GAME AND FOR AN HOUR OR MORE AFTER THE GAME.
AND WHEREAS MEMBERS OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD AND OTHERS AFTER REVIEW OF THE SITUATION DETERMINE THAT GAME DAY PARKING CONGESTION ON THE SUBJECT STREETS MAY CREATE A SAFETY HAZARD BY RESTRICTING OR DELAYING EMERGENCY RESCUE VEHICLES AND FIRE EQUIPMENT FROM RESPONDING TO CALLS IN THIS AREA.
AND WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD VOTED AND RECOMMENDS THE INSTALLATION OF FOLDING NO PARKING, THIS SIDE SIGNS FOR MANNER MARYLAND AND KATHLEEN STREETS TO BE DISPLAYED ON GAME DAYS AT HIGHMARK STADIUM.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZED THE INSTALLATION OF SAID SIGNS ON MANOR LANE, MARYLAND DRIVE, AND KAPLAN STREET ON THE FIRE HYDRANT SIDE OF THE STREET AND THE TRAFFIC SAFETY COORDINATOR SHALL GENERATE THE REQUIRED WORK ORDER FOR THIS PROJECT TO BE COMPLETED.
FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT DB 511 0 0.0205 SIGNS AND SIGNALS.
WHEREAS THE NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, N-Y-S-D-O-T IS MAKING AVAILABLE UP TO 110 MILLION IN FUNDING OVER A TWO YEAR PERIOD TO SUPPORT BICYCLE, PEDESTRIAN, MULTI-USE PATH AND TRANSPORTATION RELATED PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS THAT SUPPORT THE GOALS OF NEW YORK'S NATION LEADING CLIMATE LEADERSHIP AND COMMUNITY PROTECTION ACT C-L-C-P-A.
AND THESE FUNDS ARE MADE AVAILABLE TO THE STATE THROUGH THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION, FHWA, ADMINISTERED BY N-Y-S-D-O-T AND PROVIDED THROUGH THE TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES PROGRAM, TAP AND THE CONGESTION MITIGATION AND AIR QUALITY IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, CMAQ.
AND WHEREAS TAP FINDS A VARIETY OF TRANSPORTATION RELATED PROJECTS, WHICH INCREASE OPTIONS FOR NON VEHICULAR TRANSPORTATION, INCLUDING PLANNING, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF INFRASTRUCTURE RELATED PROJECTS TO IMPROVE NON DRIVER SAFETY AND ACCESS TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND ENHANCE MOBILITY CONSTRUCTION OF TURNOUTS, OVERLOOKS AND VIEWING AREAS, SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOLS, PLANNING, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF ON-ROAD AND OFF-ROAD FACILITIES FOR PEDESTRIANS, BICYCLISTS, AND NON-MOTORIZED TRANSPORTATION USERS.
CONVERSION AND USE OF ABANDONED RAILROAD, RAILROAD CORRIDORS FOR TRAILS FOR PEDESTRIANS, BICYCLISTS AND NON-MOTORIZED TRANSPORTATION USERS, FINDING DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF BOULEVARDS AND OTHER ROADWAYS, LARGELY IN THE RIGHT OF WAY OF FORMER DIVIDED HIGHWAYS AND COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT ACTIVITIES, UM, LANDSCAPING AND STREET SCAPE IMPROVEMENTS, HISTORIC TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES, VEGETATION MANAGEMENT PRACTICES, ARCHEOLOGICAL ACTIVITIES, AND ENVIRONMENTAL MITIGATION ACTIVITIES.
AND WHERE IS THE TAP? CMAQ PROJECT AWARD SHALL BE NO LESS THAN 500,000 AND NO GREATER THAN 5 MILLION FOR ANY SINGLE PROJECT WITH NEW YORK STATE DOT PROVIDING UP TO 80% OF THE TOTAL ELIGIBLE PROJECT COSTS WITH A MINIMUM 20% MATCH PROVIDED BY THE PROJECT SPONSOR.
ELIGIBLE PROJECT COSTS MAY INCLUDE PLANNING, DESIGN, ENGINEERING
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SERVICES RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION, CONSTRUCTION AND CONSTRUCTION INSPECTION, AND CMAQ TRANSIT IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS REQUESTING OPERATING ASSISTANCE FOR NEW TRANSIT SERVICES MAY BE FUNDED FOR UP TO FIVE YEARS AND CMAQ TRAVEL DEMAND MANAGEMENT PROJECTS MAY INCLUDE PUBLIC OUTREACH AND EDUCATION COSTS, BUT ONLY IF THEY ARE BROKEN OUT AS DISTRICT LINE ITEMS WITH ANY COST BEYOND AN AUTHORIZED PROJECT AWARD.THE SOLE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PROJECT SPONSOR AND WHERE IS IN AN EFFORT TO CONTINUE THE COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVES ALONG THE BUFFALO RIVER AND LAKE ERIE WATERFRONT SOUTH OF THE CITY OF BUFFALO, THE TOWN OF HAMBURG IS TARGETED THE LAKE ERIE WATERFRONT FROM ALE SPRINGS TO THE LACKAWANNA BORDER AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES FOR REVITALIZATION.
AND WHEREAS THE HAMBURG LAKE ERIE WATERFRONT MULTIMODAL PROJECT IS BASED ON WALKABILITY, BIKEABILITY STREET SCAPING AND CONNECTIVITY ENHANCEMENTS FROM THE WOODLAWN COMMUNITY TO APPLE SPRINGS COMMUNITY ALONG ROUTE FIVE AND HOOVER ROAD.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES EECG CONSULTING LLC TO PREPARE AND SUBMIT THE TAP GRANT APPLICATION TO THE NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT IF THE GRANT IS AWARDED, THE TOWN OF HAMBURG WILL COMMIT TO THE 20% MATCH REQUIRED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF FULL IMPLEMENTATION OF THE HAMBURG LAKE ERIE WATERFRONT MULTIMODAL PROJECT.
AND ADDITIONALLY, THE TOWN OF HAMBURG WILL DESIGNATE EECG CONSULTING LLC TO MANAGE THE PROJECT ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG.
SECOND IS MR. CONLEY ON THE QUESTION.
HERE RESOLVED THE TOWN BOARD APPROVED THE TERMINATION AND HIRING OF PERSONNEL FOR YOUTH RECREATION AND SENIOR SERVICES DEPARTMENT, UH, AS PER THE FOLLOWING ATTACHMENT, UH, AGAIN, AS I'VE MENTIONED THE WORK SESSION, THIS IS, UH, RECREATION ATTENDANCE PRIMARILY, UH, SEASONAL, UH, IN PARTICULAR, UM, EXCHANGING THE, UH, SOME LIFEGUARDS WHO ARE NO LONGER NEEDED.
ALRIGHT, UH, I'LL SECOND THAT.
ANYBODY ELSE? OTHER QUESTION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
OKAY, NUMBER 14, WE'VE DONE NUMBER 15.
15 BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD APPROVE THE TEMPORARY PART-TIME HIRING OF JEFF ADRIAN AT 35 77 PER HOUR TO THE POSITION OF CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER WITHIN THE BUILDING INSPECTION DEPARTMENT.
RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES THE FOLLOWING, WHEREAS IT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION OF THE SUPERVISOR ON THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG THAT THE PRESENT SYSTEM OF PROCESSING VOUCHERS DOES NOT COMPLY WITH STATE REGULATIONS.
AND WHEREAS THE COMPUTER NETWORK, WHICH IS USED TO PROCESS SAID VOUCHERS, IS LOCATED IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND IT HAS BEEN THE CUSTOM OF THE FINANCE DIRECTOR TO PROCESS PAYMENT OF SAID VOUCHERS.
AND WHEREAS THE STATE REGULATIONS MANDATE THAT SAID VOUCHERS BE AUTHORIZED BY THE TOWN CLERK OR TOWN CONTROLLER.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT KIMBERLY SASANA BE GIVEN THE POWERS AND AUTHORITY OF TOWN CONTROLLER LIMITED TO PRESERVING THE PRESENT SYSTEM OF VOUCHER AUTHORIZATION FOR A PERIOD COMMENCING ON 9 27 21 AND ENDING ON 12 31 21.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND? ALRIGHT, ON THE QUESTION.
ANYBODY ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.
WHEREAS A VACANCY IN THE OFFICE OF CONFIDENTIAL ASSISTANCE TO THE SUPERVISOR EXISTS AS OF THE 14TH DAY OF SEPTEMBER, 2021.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THE TOM BOARD OF APPOINT MS. KELLY INSCO TO FILL A POSITION ON A PART-TIME BASIS TO THE EXTENT OF 19 HOURS PER WEEK AT THE HOURLY RATE OF 29 23 FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT 1220 0.010 AND SHOULD BE TRANSFERRED AS A RESULT OF HER PART-TIME STATUS TO A 1220 0.0103.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND? SECOND ON THE QUESTION.
RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN SUPERVISOR IS AUTHORIZED TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH BONADIO AND COMPANY FOR ACCOUNTING SERVICES AT THE RATE OF $160 PER HOUR FOR THE TERM ENDING ON 11 15 21.
UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THIS, TO STATE, UH, FOR FINANCIAL AND CONSULTING SERVICES INSTEAD OF FOR ACCOUNTING SERVICES.
WANT A SECOND ON THAT AMENDMENT? SECOND ON THE AMENDMENT.
AND NOW THE RE UH, ON THE QUESTION, UH, ALL IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT, PLEASE SAY, AYE.
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AYE.UH, SO RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN SUPERVISOR AUTHORIZED TO ENTER INTO CONTRACT WITH BON DEAL AND COMPANY LLP FOR FINANCIAL AND CONSULTING SERVICES AT A RATE OF $160 PER HOUR FOR THE TERM ENDING.
11 15 21 FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT A 1310.
UH, SECOND THAT ON THE QUESTION.
ALRIGHT, NOW WE'VE GOT THE BILLS AS AUDITED.
UH, THIS IS A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE REPORT DATED 9 27 21, UH, TOTAL OPERATING FUND, DISBURSEMENTS 1,000,070 THOU, UH, $70,093, TOTAL CASH DISBURSEMENTS, $1,074,038 AND 13 CENTS.
THAT'S THE MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND ON THE QUESTION.
ALL RIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'LL TURN TO DEPARTMENT HEADS, UH, JENNIFER, ANYTHING TO REPORT? NOTHING TO REPORT.
KATHY RKI, ANYTHING TO REPORT? NOTHING TO REPORT.
AND KAMI, HOW ABOUT YOU? UH, JUST WANNA REPORT THAT TOM AND I MET WITH THE CONTRACTOR ON FRIDAY ABOUT, UH, THE FINAL PIECE OF THE DRAINAGE FOR THURSTON AT THE
DO, DO YOU ANTICIPATE ANY DIFFICULTY IN TERMS OF GETTING IT DONE IN THE MONTH OF OCTOBER? UH, NO.
I'M, I'M WAITING TO SEE WHAT THE PRICE TAG COMES UP TO.
UM, A A FULL SWALE IS NOT GONNA WORK.
THERE'S, WE'RE LACKING IN SPACE, SO THERE WILL HAVE TO BE A SMALL PIPE, UH, UNDER PIPE WITH SOME STONE PUT IN TO COLLECT THAT.
THE WATER THAT COMES SHEETING DOWN LYNN DRIVE.
UM, BUT IT STILL SHOULDN'T BE A LARGE COST, BUT I'M WAITING FOR THE CONTRACTOR TO GET ME THAT OVER.
WHAT, UH, UH, DO YOU THINK IT'S GONNA BE MORE? OH, THE PIPE AND THE STONE SHOULD BE MORE EXPENSIVE.
JUDGE, JUST DOING THIS, THE SWALE, RIGHT? YES.
CAN, CAN THE DRAINAGE PIPE HANDLE THE AMOUNT OF WATER COMING DOWN? LYNN, WHAT DO YOU THINK? ALL OF IT.
CERTAINLY NOT, BUT IT WILL HELP, IT WILL IMPROVE.
UH, PAUL, HOW ABOUT YOU IN THE, UH, TRAFFIC SAFETY? PAUL MCC? WE COVERED EVERYTHING.
OKAY, AND TARA, RONALD AND HOW ABOUT YOU? AND NOTHING TO TODAY, SIR.
AND MR. RUTH? NOTHING TO REPORT MR. KARATE.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE BOARD FOR THE SUPPORT AND THE HIRES WE HAD TO FIGHT AS WELL AS I MISSED THE LAST MEETING AFTER THE NINE 11 CEREMONY.
I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE BOARD AND ALL THE COMMUNITY RESIDENTS AND, UM, THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS THAT CAME UP TO.
UH, MARTY, I'M SORRY I, I PASSED OVER YOU.
UM, JUST WANNA REPORT THE THERAPEUTIC POOL IS, HAS REOPENING.
IT'S BEEN DEALT WITH AND WE'RE READY TO, READY TO, WELL WE OPEN TODAY, SO WE'RE BACK.
UM, ALSO, UH, AT THE SENIOR CENTER WITH AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, WE'VE ADOPTED A MASK POLICY.
SO WHETHER VACCINATED OR NOT, WE'RE ASKING PEOPLE TO COME INTO THE BUILDING WITH MASKS DUE TO, UM, UH, SENIOR, UM, SENIOR CENTER, UM, UH, ZOOM CALL THAT WE HAD WITH THE COMMISSIONER OF HEALTH AND ADVISING US THAT, UH, THERE ARE BREAKTHROUGH CASES EVEN WITH THOSE THAT ARE VACCINATED AND, UH, SENIORS ARE, ARE MOST VULNERABLE TO GETTING, UH, SICK.
SO, UH, WE'VE ADOPTED THAT AND, UH, TODAY WAS OUR FIRST DAY AT THIS TIME.
PAT RYAN, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.
UH, JUST THE PAVING BEGAN TODAY AT TOWN PARK.
SHOULD BE DONE BY THE END OF THIS WEEK.
UH, WE, YEAH, WE HAVE A CEREMONY TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED FOR SATURDAY MORNING, UH, 10 O'CLOCK.
UH, DO YOU THINK WE'LL BE DONE THEN? OR DON'T YOU KNOW FOR SURE? YEAH, WE SHOULD BE FOR, YEAH.
AND WE GOT, AND WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO DO THE PARKING LOT AT THE BOATHOUSE TOO, AREN'T WE? AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND IT.
ANYTHING ELSE IN THE DEPARTMENT HEADS? ALL RIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE PUBLIC, ANYTHING FROM THE PUBLIC? YES, MR. O? OKAY.
UH, WAS IT MOVED THAT WE'RE NOT DOING THE RESOLUTION FOR 18 MILE CREEK PROTECTION? YEAH, WE TABLED IT, UH, BASED ON DISCUSSIONS AT THE WORK SESSION.
UH, A COUPLE CONCERNS THAT WE, I FEEL CONFIDENT WE CAN HAMMER OUT.
UM, AND, UH, IN PARTICULAR, MIKE AND I WILL, WILL TRY TO MEET, UM, TO ADDRESS, UH, SOME OF HIS CONCERNS AS WELL AS SOME OF THE ONES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP TO THE RESIDENTS, THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
WE HAD A FEW CONCERNS THAT I THINK, UH, IT'S PRUDENT TO TABLE, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE CONCERNS ARE ADDRESSED AND THEN WE'LL, UH, READDRESS IT.
MY SECOND QUESTION WOULD BE IS THAT, UM, I GOT A FRIEND OF MINE TO CALL AND IT'S ABOUT THE HAMPTON BUILDING.
I UNDERSTAND IT'S A PART, BUT WE HAVE
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ASKED, THE CONSERVATION BOARD HAS ASKED MANY TIMES TO HAVE SOMEONE ON THE TRAIL COMMITTEE SO THAT WHEN THEY PUT THESE TRAILS IN THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA BE IMPEDING AND RIGGING ON PEOPLE'S YARDS AND PROPERTY LIGHTS.AND I WENT OVER THERE TODAY AND I WALKED IT AND TOOK PICTURES.
THERE'S BEEN TREES CUT OUT ON THIS TRAIL.
THEY'VE ALSO WENT ONTO THE STATE DEC SITE AND MARKED UP TREES, WHICH IS A NO-NO.
AND I THINK BEFORE ANYBODY WOULD TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO PUT TRAILS IN THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE A LITTLE PUBLIC INPUT.
THEY SHOULD NOT BE WITHIN A FOOT OR TWO OF SOMEBODY'S LINE FOR THEIR SURVEY WITHOUT FIRST GETTING A REAL SURVEY DONE TO FIND OUT WHERE THEY'RE PUTTING THESE TRAILS IN.
I MEAN, I'M ALL FOR FOOT TRAIL, BUT WHEN FOLIAGE IS DOWN, THESE PEOPLE LEFT.
MATTER OF FACT, TWO WEEKS AGO THEY HAD THREE TEENAGERS PUT OUT A TENT, A HAMMER, AND STARTED A CAMPFIRE.
UH, SO I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN NEIGHBORS.
SO I JUST WENT OVER TO SEE IT.
THERE'S ONLY TWO PEOPLE IN THIS TOWN THAT CAN APPROVE THE CUTTING A TREE.
THAT'S YOUR HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENT.
IT'S IN 4 36 0.5, THE HAND CODE.
SO ANYBODY CUTTING TREES OUT, NOT BEING GIVEN PERMISSION, IT SHOULD BE SIGHTED.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, OUR DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEY, I DEALT WITH A BOY SCOUTS GROUP AND, UH, ONE OR TWO OF THE BOY SCOUTS WHO WERE TRYING TO GET THEIR EAGLE SCOUT BADGE.
FOR YEARS, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN GOING BACK THERE, DRINKING, SMOKING, DOING ALL KINDS OF THINGS.
THESE KIDS PICKED UP PILES AND PILES OF TRASH.
THEY LAID OUT THE WALKING PATH ALL WITHIN THE CONFINES OF TOWN PROPERTY.
IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO THE PEOPLE AT LARGE TO ENCOURAGE PARTICIPATION BY THE PUBLIC IN HEALTHFUL ACTIVITIES.
NO PART OF THIS TRAIL IMPINGES ON THE TITLE TO ANYONE ELSE.
SECONDLY, THESE KIDS DID NOT FELL.
ANY TREES? NO SAWING, NO CHOPPING.
I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THESE YEAH, THEY MAY BE DOWN, SIR.
I DON'T KNOW WHO TOOK 'EM DOWN.
MR. SHAW, OR JUST A MINUTE I'M TALKING.
I DON'T KNOW WHO TOOK 'EM DOWN OR WHEN THEY TOOK 'EM DOWN, BUT I CHECKED WITH OUR DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEY.
THEY DID NOT SAW DOWN TREES OR CHOPPED DOWN TREES.
AND THEY DID AN AWFUL LOT OF GOOD IN TERMS OF CLEANING UP THE DUMP BACK THERE.
THIS IS A PUBLIC PARK AND IT'S NOT MEANT JUST FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THAT STREET, IT'S MEANT FOR THE ENJOYMENT OF EVERYBODY IN THE TOWN.
ANYTHING ELSE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, ANYMORE? FROM ANYBODY? TOWN BOARD MEMBERS? ANYBODY? OKAY.
IN THAT CASE, I MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.