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          UH, TO ORDER. 
          IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, THE MOTION IS CARRIED. 
          UH, WHY DON'T WE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF, PLEDGE OF TO FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES, AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          HOW ARE YOU DOING? GOOD. 
          LUKE, WHY DON'T WE JUST TURN IT OVER TO YOU THEN, MY FRIEND? YEAH. 
          DO YOU WANT ME JUST TO COME TO THE TABLE? IS THAT, IS THAT OKAY? JENNIFER, WHAT'S BEST FOR LUKE TO DO? DO YOU WANT THE BUDGET PRESENTATION LIVE? OH, RIGHT NOW, YOU MEAN? YEAH, I DON'T, IS THERE A NO, THERE'S NO INCONVENIENCE IN THAT, IS THERE? I'M JUST GONNA SHIFT THE CAMERA. 
          ALRIGHT, WELL LET'S DO IT THEN. 
          GUESS WE'LL DO IT LIVE AT SEVEN TOO. 
          SO YOU'LL BE ON TWICE. 
          UH, LUKE? YEAH, I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OF THE BEST LOGISTICS TO CLICK THE SLIDES. 
          OKAY, SIR. 
          MAYBE SIT. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          I'LL SIT ON THE END. 
          HOW ABOUT THAT? THEN I CAN SEE IT ALL. 
          SO FOR THOSE THAT DON'T REMEMBER OR HAVEN'T MET ME, MY NAME IS LUKE MACK, WORK WITH THE AUDIT FIRM DIRECTOR IN M WITH ERICA OVER HERE. 
          UH, TYPICALLY WE WORK WITH THE FINANCE STAFF TO COMPILE THE BUDGET. 
          UM, SO WE DON'T REALLY, THE DECISIONS THEY GET PUT INTO THE, THE ACTUAL BUDGET DOCUMENT COME FROM THE SUPERVISOR FOR THE PROPOSED BUDGET. 
          AND THEN, UM, RAN THROUGH FINANCE. 
          AND THIS YEAR I THINK THEY HIRED, UH, WELL, THEY HIRED A CONSULTANT FROM BON DAY TO HELP ASSIST WITH THAT PROCESS, WITH THE TURNOVER IN THE FINANCE DIRECTOR POSITION. 
          UM, SO THEN, UH, WHAT THE SUPERVISOR ASKED IS FOR US JUST TO COME IN AND KIND OF GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW TO THE PUBLIC OF WHAT THE PROPOSED BUDGET LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT KIND OF ASSESSMENT WE DID. 
          SO, UH, WE TRY TO KEEP IT AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE, BUT 
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AS YOU ALL KNOW, IT'S A PRETTY LENGTHY DOCUMENT WITH A LOT OF MOVING PARTS. 
          UM, AND THEN, UH, SO WE'LL JUST RUN THROUGH IT AND LOOK AT SOME OF THE KEY TRENDS THAT WE FOUND. 
          SO FIRST OF ALL, THE, THIS IS THE BUDGET CALENDAR IN JULY OF EACH YEAR, UH, AS WAS THIS YEAR. 
          UM, THE, THE, THE BUDGET PROCESS BEGINS WITH THE REQUEST BEING SENT FROM FINANCE TO THE INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS. 
          THOSE ALL GET PROCESSED BY KIM AND THE STAFF DOWN THERE, UM, DURING AUGUST, AND THEN IN EARLY SEPTEMBER, THE SUPERVISOR MET ALONGSIDE FINANCE WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS TO DETERMINE, UM, WHAT ITEMS WILL GET INTO THE BUDGET. 
          SO THE DEPARTMENT HEAD, UM, DEPARTMENT HEADS, UH, TAX ORIGINALLY HAD A RATE OF ABOUT $13 AND 27 CENTS, AND THE BILL FOR THE OUTSIDE VILLAGE RESIDENTS AND $5 AND 86 CENTS FOR THE, UH, VILLAGE RESIDENTS. 
          THE SUPERVISOR DID GO THROUGH AND MAKE CERTAIN AMENDMENTS TO THAT TO PUT, TO COME TO THE PROPOSED BUDGET THAT WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW AND GOT THE RATE DOWN TO 11 CENT, $11 AND 12 CENTS FOR THE OUTSIDE VILLAGE AND VILLAGE RESIDENTS ARE $5 AND 20 CENTS, AND WE'LL BREAK THOSE DOWN A LITTLE BIT DEEPER THERE. 
          UH, THAT WAS THE FILE THAT WAS, UH, THE BUDGET THAT WAS FILED ON SEPTEMBER 30TH. 
          UM, WE, AS I SAID, BUT THAT WAS THE INFORMATION THAT WAS GIVEN TO OUR FIRM. 
          ERICA, PUT THROUGH INTO, UH, THE, THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU'VE BEEN, UH, THAT WAS FILED WITH THE CLERK ON SEPTEMBER 30TH AT I BELIEVE, 4:45 PM MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LATER, BUT THEY WERE KIND ENOUGH TO STAY LATER. 
          UM, AND THEN OCTOBER 25TH, TODAY IS THE PUBLIC HEARING WHERE THE SUPERVISOR BUDGET IS DISCUSSED WITH THE PUBLIC AND COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD ARE, ARE, ARE, UH, FIELDED. 
          AND THEN BEFORE NOVEMBER 20TH, AND I SAW YOU HAD YOUR MEETING ALREADY ON THE CALENDAR, UM, YOU WERE TO ADOPT THE BUDGET, AND THEN THE RATES THEN GET FIELDED ONTO OR SUBMITTED ONTO THE COUNTY, AND WE'LL ASSIST KING WITH THAT. 
          SO THE FUNDS WITHIN THE, IN THE BUDGET, UH, TYPICALLY WE FOCUS ON THE, THE OPERATING FUND, WHICH WE, WE WOULD REFER TO AS THE GENERAL FUND, THE HIGHWAY FUND, AND THE TOWN OUTSIDE VILLAGE FUND. 
          THE TOWN OUTSIDE VILLAGE FUND IS A TAX RATE THAT'S ISOLATED FOR THOSE, THOSE PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIVE IN A VILLAGE OF BLAZEDALE OR THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURG. 
          THE GENERAL FUND IS A RATE THAT'S ALL ENCOMPASSING ALL OF THE, UH, THE TOWN WIDE. 
          THE HIGHWAY FUND ALSO ONLY, UH, IS ASSESSED TO THOSE RESIDENTS OUTSIDE THE VILLAGE. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WHEN WE LOOK AT THE TWO DIFFERENT TAX RATES, WE TALK ABOUT 2D TWO, TWO OF 'EM, WHICH THE TOWN OUTSIDE VILLAGE HAS THREE OPERATING BUDGETS WHERE THE VILLAGE ONLY HAS ONE. 
          SO THE TOWN OUTSIDE VILLAGE IS ALWAYS GONNA HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          UH, AGAIN, TO REITERATE, THE TOWN OUTSIDE VILLAGE RESIDENTS WOULD BE PAYING FOR THE, THE, THE GENERAL TOWN OUTSIDE VILLAGE TAX AND THE HIGHWAY TAX, BUT THEY DON'T PAY VILLAGE TAX. 
          THERE'S ALSO AN INSURANCE RESERVE FUND. 
          THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF YOUR, YOUR, YOUR, UH, LIABILITY IS RUNS THROUGH YOUR LIABILITY INSURANCE. 
          UH, IT'S A POOLED FUND THAT EACH FUND THAT IS, UH, REQUIRES ANY SORT OF LIABILITY INSURANCE PUTS, PUTS MONEY INTO THAT FUND AND IT'S PROCESSED THERE. 
          UH, THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS, YOU DID HAVE THE TOWN PARK THAT'S NOW SHIFTED IN THE PAST COUPLE YEARS TO THE GENERAL FUND. 
          IT'S NOW THE GOLF COURSE AND THE ICE ARENA. 
          UM, THERE'S A COMPONENT OF THE BUDGET THAT'S WITHIN HERE, UM, BECAUSE WHEN THOSE REVENUES DON'T MATCH THOSE EXPENDITURES, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE HAS TO BE SUBSIDIZED BY TRANSFER OUT FROM THE GENERAL FUND. 
          SO THAT IS WITHIN THIS DOCUMENT AS WELL. 
          AND THEN THERE'S A VER VARIETY OF SPECIAL DISTRICTS, UM, THAT ARE ASSESSED BASED ON ONLY THOSE USERS THAT ARE, ARE PARTICIPATING IN THOSE DISTRICTS. 
          THERE'S SIX SEWER DISTRICTS IN THE TOWN, TWO WATER DISTRICTS, SEVEN, FIRE PROTECTION OF STREET LEGGINGS, UH, HYDRATOR. 
          SO JUST REAL QUICKLY, OBVIOUSLY THE FOUR COMPONENTS TO A BUDGET, THE ESTIMATED REVENUES, THAT'S TYPICALLY THE MOST PREDICTABLE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF MORTGAGE TAX AND SALES TAX. 
          UH, THIS, THIS YEAR'S SUPERVISOR'S PROPOSED BUDGET DID INCLUDE BOTH AN INCREASE IN BOTH OF THOSE ITEMS BASED ON THE TRENDS OF THE LAST FEW YEARS. 
          UH, THE, THE, UH, THE MORTGAGE TAXES WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND, UH, THAT DID JUMP UP TO, LEMME JUST COME THROUGH IT REALLY QUICK. 
          UH, THAT DID JUMP UP TO, UH, 1.6 MILLION. 
          UH, THIS 2021 IS CURRENTLY PROJECTED TO BE AT 1.7 MILLION. 
          SO STILL NOT QUITE WHAT IS EXPECTED IN 2021. 
          UM, BUT IT DID INCREASE BY ABOUT 375,000 FROM LAST YEAR'S BUDGET. 
          AND THEN WITHIN THE SALES TAX THAT IS IN THE, THAT IS ELIGIBLE ONLY TO THE PART TOWN FUND, UM, BECAUSE THE VILLAGE HAS THEIR OWN SALES TAX. 
          SO IF, IF IT WENT TO THE GENERAL FUND, IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED DOUBLE DIPPING FOR THOSE VILLAGE VILLAGE RESIDENTS. 
          UM, SO THAT IS ONLY SPECIFIC TO THE PART TOWN FUND, WHICH HOSTS MOST OF THE, THE TOWN'S POLICING SERVICES. 
          THAT DID INCREASE, UM, FROM 6.9 MILLION TO 7.6 IN THIS BUDGET. 
          AND AGAIN, SIMILARLY, A 
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COUPLE YEARS BACK WITH THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC WAS VERY UNPREDICTABLE FOR THIS CURRENT YEAR. 
          AS IT TURNS OUT, ERIE COUNTY, MUCH OF NEW YORK STATE IS SEEN VERY FAVORABLE. 
          SALES TAX PROJECTIONS RIGHT NOW ARE SOMEWHERE AROUND 8 MILLION. 
          SO THAT'S STILL A LITTLE SHY OF WHAT'S EXPECTED FOR THIS YEAR IS ON A CONSERVATIVE EFFORT IN CASE IT DOESN'T COME TO FRUITION, BUT A SIZABLE INCREASE. 
          THOSE TWO ARE THE BIGGEST, UH, KIND OF VARIABLES IN THE ESTIMATED REVENUES. 
          THE REST OF THE REVENUES ARE YOU, IT SIZABLE ONES WOULD BE YOUR DEPARTMENTAL INCOME, WHICH ARE PRETTY CONSISTENT FROM YEAR TO YEAR EXCEPT FOR 2020 OF COURSE. 
          UM, YOU HAVE YOUR LOCAL AND STATE, UM, AND FEDERAL AID. 
          SO A LITTLE BIT OF ARPA MONEY WOULD, IS FINDING ITS WAY IN HERE, AMERICAN RECOVERY PLAN ACT. 
          BUT THAT WAS, UM, DEDICATED TO ONE-TIME SERVICE REVENUES OR ONE TIME EXPENDITURES TYPES. 
          UM, IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S NOT CREATING AN INSTITUTIONAL COST THAT'S GONNA CARRY ON IT BE FOR AN EQUIPMENT OR A ONE-TIME PAYOUT. 
          UM, THE VLT MONEY IS IN THERE. 
          AGAIN, THAT'S NOT VERY, UM, NOT VERY DYNAMIC EXCEPT FOR LAST YEAR WHEN IT WAS CUT 20%. 
          UH, THE NEXT BULLET THERE, THE APPROPRIATIONS WILL FEED INTO THE EQUATION OF THE APPROPRIATIONS IS REALLY THE AREA THAT YOU HAVE THE MOST CONTROL OVER, EXCEPT MOST OF THAT CONTROL DOESN'T HAPPEN DURING THIS BUDGET PROCESS. 
          A LOT OF THAT'S IN THE UNION NEGOTIATIONS. 
          ABOUT 70% OF YOUR TOWN AND EVERY OTHER TOWN'S BUDGET IS COMPRISED OF PERSONAL SERVICE COSTS. 
          UM, THOSE ARE NEGOTIATED THROUGH CONTRACTS AND THEN MANDATED WITH EITHER THE ERS, WHICH IS IN, UH, EMPLOYEES RETIREMENT SYSTEM OR THE PFRS, WHICH IS THE POLICE INQUIRERS RETIREMENT SYSTEM, AS WELL AS SOME IN HEALTH INSURANCE BENEFITS. 
          THERE ARE, THERE IS SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THE CONTRACTUAL COSTS AS WELL AS SOME EQUIPMENT COSTS. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE, UM, SOME OF THE CUTS THAT THE SUPERVISOR TOOK TO GET FROM THE DEPARTMENT REQUEST DOWN TO WHERE THE PROPOSED BUDGET IS RIGHT NOW. 
          THE NEXT ITEM, APPROPRIATE FUND BALANCE. 
          WE HAVE A SLIDE LATER ON IT, SO I'LL TALK ABOUT KIND OF THE SHIFTS IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS THERE, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER COMPONENT. 
          YOU ARE ABLE TO USE SOME OF THE FUNDS, RESERVE SOME OF THEIR SAVINGS TO OFFSET THE TAX LEVY, WHICH IS THE LAST BULLET THERE ON WHAT WE WILL WIND UP WITH. 
          SO SOME OF THE CHANGES, I DID KIND OF HIT ON A COUPLE OF THESE THINGS ALREADY. 
          UH, THE V THE NEW YORK STATE VLT ALLOTMENT, AND THAT'S ON BELOW THE COMMITTED LEVEL FOR THE PAST 15 YEARS OR SO. 
          UM, WE'LL SEE A LITTLE BIT ON THE NEXT SLIDE OF WHAT, WHAT THE PROJECTION IS FOR NEXT YEAR AND WHAT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN BASED ON. 
          THE, THE, UH, THE FORMULA STATE AID SOURCES, THOSE ARE VERY LIMITED. 
          AND WE SAW LAST YEAR HOW QUICK THE RUG CAN GET PULLED UNDERNEATH US. 
          UH, 20% CUT FROM STATE AID. 
          UH, LAST YEAR ON THE VLT, UH, JUST IN INSTANT IN THE END OF SUMMER. 
          THAT WAS ACROSS THE BOARD. 
          THE STATE THREATENED. 
          UM, MOST OF THAT STATE AID HAS BEEN REINSTATED FOR 20 21, 20 22 YEARS STATE FISCAL YEAR. 
          UM, BUT IT IS AN AREA WHERE WE'RE NOT SEEING A LOT OF GROWTH IN THE STATE SOURCES. 
          INTEREST RATES ARE AT THEIR ALL TIME MINIMUM. 
          I THINK AS FAR AS WHAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE RETURN, YOU'RE GETTING YOUR CASH ON INVESTMENTS AND A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO YOU COULD COUNT ON A FEW, UH, ALMOST A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OF INTEREST REVENUE. 
          NOWADAYS, YOU'RE LUCKY TO GET EVEN A $10,000 INTEREST REVENUE. 
          SO NOT A LOT OF HELP THERE. 
          UH, THE DEPARTMENTAL REVENUES ARE, ARE, UH, LIMITED AS WELL. 
          A LOT OF THAT IS, IT GOES HAND IN HAND WITH MORE COSTS OF PROVIDING SERVICES. 
          SO THOSE TEND TO BE, UM, LIMITED AS FAR AS HOW MUCH YOU'RE GONNA GENERATE NEW REVENUES TOO. 
          UH, AND REALLY JUST TRYING TO KEEP THE PACE OF, OF PREVIOUS YEARS IS A CHALLENGE ENOUGH. 
          SO THE STATE FINANCE LAW, UH, WAS INTENDED FOR THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO RECEIVE 3.5%, WHICH THE TOWN RECEIPT WOULD RECEIVE 75%. 
          THIS, BASED ON THE FORMULA OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, AVERAGES OUT. 
          IT'S NOT A REAL SPECIFIC AMOUNT, BUT IT'S ABOUT $2.1 MILLION IS WHAT THE TOWN SHOULD BE RECEIVING. 
          LAST YEAR, THE THE TOWN ACTUALLY ONLY RECEIVED 692,000 FOR THE PE FOR THE PREVIOUS 10 YEARS OR SO, UP FROM WHEN THE, THE VLT STARTED, IT WAS RECEIVING ABOUT 865,000. 
          THIS YEAR, THE SUPERVISOR EXPECTS THAT THAT WILL BE REINSTATED TO THE FULL 8 65, WHICH IS CLEARLY NOT EVEN CLOSE. 
          ABOUT $1.3 MILLION OFF OF WHAT WAS PROMISED, BUT CERTAINLY, UH, A FAVORABLE SHIFT FROM WHAT WAS GIVEN TO THE TOWN LAST YEAR. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S THE, THE VLT THERE SOURCES OF REVENUE. 
          THIS JUST GOES ON TO KIND OF REALLY HAMMER HOME THE FACT THAT YOU DON'T HAVE MUCH CONTROL OVER THE REVENUES COMING IN, BECAUSE THE BIGGEST PO CHUNK OF THIS, ASIDE FROM THE REAL PROPERTY TAX ITEMS, IS YOUR INTERGOVERNMENTAL AID. 
          THAT'S YOUR VLT REVENUE IN YOUR STATE AND FEDERAL. 
          AND THAT COMPRISES 15%, ONLY 15% OF YOUR REVENUES, 12% OF YOUR REVENUES ARE FROM THE DEPARTMENTAL WITH FINES AND FORFEITURES IS ONLY 3%. 
          SO EVEN IF YOU HAMMER ON YOUR, YOUR POLICE AND, AND YOUR, UH, YOUR COURTS, THAT TO RAMP UP THAT THE, THE REVENUE LINE, IT'S ONLY 3% OF THE BUDGET. 
          IT'S, IT'S REALLY A DROP IN THE, IN THE BIGGER BUCKET THINGS. 
          UM, THE, THE, THE REMAINING 72%, AND YOU CAN SEE THE INTEREST DOWN 
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THERE IS 1% THAT USED TO BE UP TO THREE TO 5%. 
          NOW IT'S ONLY 1% WITH THE, WITH THE RATES, WHAT THEY ARE, THE REMAINING 72% ARE EITHER GONNA BE FROM THE TAX LEVEL, YOUR INTERNAL SERVICE, INTERNAL SOURCES, WHICH WOULD BE OTHER FUNDS. 
          AND THAT'S ESSENTIALLY A TAX LE IN AND OF ITSELF. 
          'CAUSE YOU EITHER HAD PREVIOUSLY TAXED THE RESIDENTS AND YOU'RE USING FUND BALANCE OR YOU'RE SHIFTING, UH, THE GENERAL FUND IS PERMITTED TO ALLOCATE CERTAIN COSTS TO OTHER FUNDS BASED ON ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES AND SO FORTH. 
          UM, SO THOSE CHARGEBACKS ARE ULTIMATELY DRIVEN FROM, AGAIN, ANOTHER TAX REVENUE. 
          SO ABOUT 72% OF THIS, OF THE REVENUE SOURCES IS REQUIRED TO BE CREATED FROM THE INTERNAL, UM, GENERATED FUNDS. 
          ON THE CHALLENGES SIDE FOR THE APPROPRIATION, UH, HEALTH INSURANCE CONTINUES TO BE HIGH. 
          WE DID SEE A LITTLE BIT OF A DIP OFF IN THE, UM, THE QUOTES FROM THE THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR THIS CURRENT BUDGET. 
          UM, BUT REALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE GENERAL FUNDS BUDGET FROM 2000, THE PROPOSED BUDGET FROM 2022 COMPARED TO 10 YEARS AGO IN 2013, THE GENERAL FUNDS PAYING 38% HIGHER IN, IN HEALTH INSURANCE. 
          AND ON A TOWN WIDE ASPECT, THAT'S ABOUT 33%. 
          SO THE MORE THE GENERAL FUND, IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S VERY SPECIFIC AS FAR AS WHICH, UM, INDIVIDUALS ARE, ARE USING ONCE. 
          BUT THE GENERAL FUND DID TAKE THE BRUNT OF THAT AT 38%. 
          SO THAT OBVIOUSLY HAS A, A MAJOR FACTOR IN, IN THE APPROPRIATION TRENDS. 
          THE SECOND POLL IS A CAPITAL REINVESTMENT IN THE HIGHWAY FUND. 
          WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL FROM CONGRESS. 
          SO IT'S REALLY UNKNOWN OF WHAT SORT OF AID'S GONNA COME ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL. 
          UH, THE STATE AID HAS GIVEN THEIRS. 
          THERE'S A LITTLE BIT HIGHER OF A ROLLOVER IN YOUR CHIPS, BUT ULTIMATELY A PRETTY STAGNANT NUMBER IN YOUR STATE. 
          A THE CHIPS ROLLOVER IS REALLY JUST PROJECTS THAT DIDN'T GET DONE LAST YEAR, GETTING KICKED INTO THE, INTO THE 2022 YEAR. 
          SO A VERY LIMITED STATE AGE AS WELL AS AN AGING INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          AND IT'S CERTAINLY AN AREA OF, OF, UH, PHYSICAL, UH, STRAIN ON, ON THE, UH, THE REINVESTMENT IN THE HIGHWAY FUND, RETIREMENT COSTS INCREASES THAT THEY ARE INCREASING, BUT FOR, OR THEY WERE INCREASING. 
          BUT FORTUNATELY FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS, THEY HAVE BEGUN TO, TO DROP. 
          UM, BUT THEY STILL REMAIN SIGNIFICANT. 
          AND THE NUMBER I HAVE WRITTEN DOWN HERE IS THAT THE, THE TOTAL RETIREMENT COSTS WITHIN YOUR TOWN ARE $3.4 MILLION. 
          THAT'S 7% OF YOUR TOTAL APPROPRIATIONS. 
          SO, UM, BETWEEN THE, UH, APPROXIMATELY $5.7 MILLION OF HEALTH INSURANCE AND THE $3.4 MILLION OF EMPLOYEE BENEFITS, YOU'RE AL YOU'RE NORTH OF $11 MILLION JUST IN THOSE TWO COST DRIVERS WITHIN YOUR TOTAL APPROPRIATIONS, WHICH TOTAL APPROPRIATIONS IS 49% OR 49 MILLION. 
          SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 20% OF YOUR TOWN'S BUDGET IS KIND OF ALREADY SET IN STONE JUST BY MANDATED WITHIN YOUR, UH, YOUR EMPLOYEE BENEFITS, SALARIES, AND PERSONNEL COSTS. 
          I DID MENTION THAT THOSE ARE ALL NEGOTIATED PRIOR TO THIS. 
          THOSE ARE, UH, PROVIDED WITH THE PERSONNEL SERVICE, UH, PER THE PERSONNEL DEPARTMENT WITHIN, WITHIN, UM, FINANCE TO GET THOSE OUT THERE FOR THE STEP INCREASES IN NEGOTIATIONS. 
          NEGOTIATED SALARIES, YOUR TOWN, LIKE MANY OTHERS, PAYS SICK AND VACATION LEAVE, UH, UPON RETIREMENT OR DEPARTURE FROM THE TOWN. 
          UM, THAT'S MANDATED BY THE CONTRACTS, AND IT'S VERY UNPREDICTABLE. 
          SO WITHIN EACH OF THESE BUDGETS, THE, THE FINANCE AND THE SUPERVISOR TENDS TO TRY TO GUESS ON WHAT RETIREMENT COSTINGS GONNA COST. 
          UM, BUT IT'S REALLY ON A, A KIND OF A, A DART THROWING A DART AT A DART BOARD. 
          YOU, YOU REALLY CAN'T GET ANYTHING IN WRITING TO GET TO SEE WHO IS RETIRING IN 2022. 
          YOU JUST KIND OF HAVE TO, UM, DO YOUR OWN KIND OF AGING SCALES WITHIN THE DEPARTMENTS. 
          BUT IT IS REQUIRED TO TAKE THIS OUT. 
          JUST A BRIEF LOOK AT THE HEALTH INSURANCE HERE, YOU CAN SEE, UH, THIS IS TOWN WIDE. 
          THIS ISN'T JUST THE GENERAL FUND. 
          SO THIS IS THE ONE THAT'S ABOUT 33% HIGHER AND ABOUT $4.3 MILLION IN 2014. 
          UH, THIS YEAR'S PROPOSED BUDGET, UH, AND 2020 ONE'S OBVIOUSLY NOT FINALIZED. 
          SO IT'S CONTINUED TO, HAS THE BUDGETED AMOUNT IN THERE. 
          UH, A BIG, UH, A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT FROM THE 6.6 MILLION IN 2020. 
          UM, IF IT COMES TO FRUITION, WE'LL, WE'LL, IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN BECAUSE WE'RE STILL WAITING TO SEE, UH, WHERE THE 20, 21 YEAR WOUND UP. 
          UM, BUT IT IS AN AREA THAT WE ALL KEEP OUR EYE ON JUST BECAUSE OF THE, UH, SIGNIFICANT GROWTH, PARTICULARLY FROM 16 TO TO 2020. 
          I DID SAY THE RETIREMENT RATES ARE FINALLY DROPPING. 
          YOU CAN SEE THERE WAS A STEADY CLIMB FROM THE 2008 RECESS UP UNTIL THE 2013 MARK. 
          AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THESE RATES ARE BASED ON A BLENDED FIVE YEAR RATE. 
          SO THAT HUGE RECESSION, THAT HUGE DIP IN ALL THE MARKETS TO FIVE YEARS TO RECOVER SINCE THEN, IT, IT FELL OFF AND THEN STARTED TO CREEP UP AGAIN LAST YEAR WITH ANOTHER MINOR RECESSION THAT HAPPENED FROM THE COVID PANDEMIC. 
          FORTUNATELY, UH, THE, THE MARKET RE REBOUNDED AND THEN SOME, UM, SO THAT BLENDED RATE REALLY DIDN'T MAKE MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE IN THIS PROJECTED RATE. 
          SO THESE ARE BASED RIGHT ON FROM A STATE WEBSITE ON WHERE, WHAT THEY'RE, THEY ACTUALLY WILL BE IN 2022. 
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SO WE FEEL PRETTY COMFORTABLE WITH THE NUMBERS THAT ARE PRESENTED HERE. 
          AND ACTUALLY, THIS BRINGS YOU THE TOWN'S PFRS RATE BACK TO WHERE THEY WERE IN 2014. 
          AND THE ERS IS BACK TO WHERE IT WAS IN 2010. 
          SO IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF A, A BRIGHT SPOT, BUT IT'S STILL A SIGNIFICANT COUNT, UH, A SIGNIFICANT BALANCE, UH, ACCOUNT TO, UH, MONITOR WHAT'S THE ALLOCATION OF ALL THE FUNDS. 
          UH, REALLY WHAT STRUCK ME ON THIS ONE IS THAT ABOUT 75, 70% IS, UM, EITHER EMPLOYEE BENEFITS OR PROVIDING PUBLIC SAFETY OR TRANSPORTATION, WHICH PUBLIC SAFETY IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE TOWN RESIDENTS, AS WELL AS THE ROADS, KEEPING THE ROADS CLEAR DURING WINTER AND SO FORTH. 
          UM, CERTAINLY THE HIGHEST PORTION OF THAT IS THE EMPLOYEE BENEFITS. 
          WE, I JUST MENTIONED ABOUT 10 MILLION IS FROM THAT HEALTH INSURANCE AND THE RETIREMENT SYSTEMS SYSTEMS. AND THEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR PUBLIC SAFETY IS ABOUT 27%. 
          THAT'S MOSTLY IN THE PART TOWN FUND OR THE TOWN OUTSIDE VILLAGE FUND. 
          UM, THOSE ARE SYNONYMOUS, UH, BUT THAT'S 27% OF THE BUDGET. 
          AND THEN 12% IS WITHIN THE HIGHWAY FUND, AND THAT INCLUDES, UM, THE HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENT AS WELL, THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT SUPPORT. 
          JUST POINT OUT THAT'S 10% OF YOUR BUDGET. 
          THAT'S REALLY WHAT'S REQUIRED THROUGHOUT THE STATE, STATE MANDATES FOR YOUR TOWN SUPERVISOR, TOWN BOARD, TOM CLERK, FINANCE, JUST KIND OF THE OPERATIONS, THE BACKGROUND OF, UH, THE SUPPORT SYSTEM OF THE TOWN. 
          THAT SERVICE IS ONLY 1% OF THE BUDGET WITHIN, WITHIN THE TOWN, WHICH IS PRETTY REMARKABLE WHEN YOU LOOK AT, AT, UH, THE, UH, THE TOTAL TOWN BUDGET. 
          SO WHERE THE APPROPRIATION HISTORY GOES, A STEADY INCREASE, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S, IT DOES OUTPACE, UH, IT DOES NOT OUTPACE CPI, WHICH I THINK IS A, A, A A A GOOD THING, ESPECIALLY IN PARTICULAR IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS. 
          UM, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS ABOUT A 2.9, ABOUT 3% INCREASE IN THIS PROPOSED BUDGET. 
          BUT WHEN YOU LOOK OVER THE COURSE OF THE FULL 10 YEAR HISTORY HERE, IT'S ABOUT 16% HIGHER THAN IT WAS IN 2013, AND AN AVERAGE ABOUT 1.7%. 
          SO CERTAINLY KEEPS BELOW THE STATE KIND OF EARMARK THAT THEY PROVIDED WITH THE REAL PROPERTY TAX CAP OF 2%, UH, YOU'D BE AT 1%, 1.7%, ALTHOUGH THAT'S ON THE TAX LEVY. 
          THIS IS APPROPRIATIONS, BUT WE KIND OF LOOK AT THOSE KIND OF SYNONYMOUSLY THERE. 
          SOME OTHER BUDGET FACTORS. 
          I DID MENTION, UH, THE APPROPRIATED FUND BALANCE, AND I, THE REASON I WANTED TO BRING THIS OUT IN PARTICULAR IS THIS YEAR, THE, THE, THE MAIN, AGAIN, THE OPERATING ONES THAT WE FOCUS ON, UH, GENERAL FUND AND TOWN OUTSIDE DEALERS, THAT'S AT $1.2 MILLION. 
          AND THE REASON THAT'S IMPORTANT IS THAT IN 2019, UM, OR EXCUSE ME, 20 17 20 17, THAT NUMBER WAS 2.1 MILLION. 
          SO THAT'S $900,000 THAT USED TO BE ABLE TO HELP BALANCE THE BUDGET. 
          THAT'S NO LONGER AVAILABLE BECAUSE, UH, REALLY THE, THE BEEF FUND STARTED, THE BEEF B FUND IS WHAT WE CALL THE TOWN OUTSIDE VILLAGE FUND. 
          THE TOWN OUTSIDE VILLAGE FUND BEGAN TO USE ITS EAT INTO ITS FUND BALANCE A LITTLE BIT TOO HEAVILY. 
          UM, SO THEN THIS SUPERVISOR BEGAN TO WEAN THE TOWN OFF OF THAT, UM, THAT PRACTICE, BRINGING THAT FUND IN PARTICULAR DOWN FROM 1.5 MILLION APPROPRIATED FUND BALANCE IN 2017 TO $700,000 IN THIS PROPOSED BUDGET, SOMETIMES YOU'D HOPE TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF HELP FROM YOUR TAXABLE ASSESSED VALUATION. 
          THAT'S NOT GONNA HELP YOUR LEVY, OBVIOUSLY, BUT IT COULD DRIVE DOWN THE RATE THIS YEAR, YOUR ASSESSED VALUATION ONLY INCREASED BY 0.7%. 
          SO IT REALLY DIDN'T HELP, IT DIDN'T FACTOR INTO ANY OF THIS. 
          SO THE ACTUAL RATE THAT'S PRESENTED TODAY IS, IS REALLY FOCUSED ON A LEVY DA LEVY, UH, A LEVY, UM, PRACTICE RATHER THAN A, ANY SORT OF HELP FROM THE TAXABLE ASSESS VALUATION SHIP. 
          SO I DID SAY THAT THOSE RATES, UM, THE RATES FOR THIS PAST, THIS CURRENT YEAR WITH THE, FOR A, A, A TOWN OUTSIDE VILLAGE RESIDENCE SOLD VILLAGE, UH, A RESIDENT THAT'S PAYING THE GENERAL FUND, THE POLICE FUND, WHICH IS THE TOWN OUTSIDE VILLAGE FUND. 
          AND THE HIGHWAY FUND IS GONNA HAVE 11.2, 11.12, $11 AND 12 CENTS PER A THOUSAND DOLLARS OF ASSESSED VALUE. 
          THAT'S DOWN FROM $11 AND 30 CENTS FROM LAST YEAR. 
          THAT'S ABOUT A 1.52% INCREASE. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE FIVE YEAR TREND HERE HAS BEEN PRETTY MODEST. 
          AN ACTUAL, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UM, TAX RATE ON AN AVERAGE INCREASE ONLY, UM, 0.6% ON AN, ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, ON THE AVERAGE, ON THE TOWN WIDES, OR EXCUSE ME, ON THE, ON THE VILLAGE RESIDENTS. 
          THOSE VILLAGE RESIDENTS THAT AREN'T PAYING FOR THE TOWN OUTSIDE VILLAGE FUND AND THE HIGHWAY FUND, THEY'RE GOING TO, UH, SEE THEIR PROPOSED BUDGET IS $5 AND 21 CENTS, WHICH IS ONLY A A HALF PERCENT INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR'S PROPOSED BUDGET. 
          AND ACTUALLY THEIR FIVE YEAR AVERAGE, UM, ON AN ANNUAL BASIS IS ACTUALLY 0.55. 
          SO A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN THE TOWN OUTSIDE VILLAGE. 
          UM, BUT THIS, THIS YEAR DID SEE A SLIGHT INCREASE, BUT OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS, THOSE, THOSE TWO AVERAGE RATES HAVE CHANGED ARE 0.6 AND 0.55. 
          SO VERY, VERY CLOSE. 
          UH, THIS IS THAT BREAKDOWN. 
          I DID JUST SAY, UH, KIND OF WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT HERE IS THE, THE THREE DIFFERENT RATES THAT A, UH, THE RESIDENT 
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THAT'S OUTSIDE OF VILLAGE WILL PAY. 
          UM, THAT'S MORE THAN MADE UP FROM, UH, WITH THE HAMBURG AND BLAZEDALE RATES. 
          UM, BUT THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE GETTING ASSESSED FROM THE TOWN, AND THIS COMPARES TO WHERE THEY WERE LAST YEAR. 
          AND THEN THE DOLLAR CHANGE. 
          SO 17 CENTS REDUCTION FROM, UH, FOR THE TOWN OUTSIDE VILLAGE RESIDENTS, AND ABOUT A TWO, UH, ALMOST 3% IN OR 3 CENTS INCREASE FROM FOR THE VILLAGE RESIDENTS. 
          JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, DIGGING INTO THESE TAX RATES, UH, WE DID JUST, I DID JUST MENTION THAT FIRST BULLET. 
          THE SECOND BULLET, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT COMPARED TO THIR 2013, IT'S ONLY A DOLLAR 58 MORE THAN IT WAS IN 2013. 
          AND WHEN WE SAW THAT YOU RECALL, THE, UH, TOTAL APPROPRIATIONS INCREASED BY, UH, 15.9%, UM, OVER THAT SAME AREA AREA. 
          AND THIS IS ONLY A ONE POINT A DOLLAR 58 TO PROVIDE THAT INCREASE IN APPROPRIATED, UM, APPROPRIATIONS, AND THEN THE VILLAGE RESIDENTS, NOT EVEN A DOLLAR TO PROVIDE THE SIMILAR SERVICES THAT THEY'RE USED TO TO RECEIVING. 
          SO THE AVERAGE RATE OF INCREASE, UH, UP OVER THE, UH, PAST 10 YEARS IS 1.8 AND 2.17 FOR THE VILLAGE. 
          WHAT WE DID, WHAT WE PUT TOGETHER HERE IS JUST KIND OF A, A BRIEF, UH, COMPARISON ON IF, IF A, IF A HOMEOWNER THAT LIVED IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG AND THE HAMBURG SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHAT IF THEY HAD AN, A HOUSE WITH AN ASSESSED VALUE OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS? UM, THE, WITH TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE EQUALIZATION RATE, OKAY? SO EVERY YEAR THIS HOUSE IS ASSESSED AT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. 
          SO WHAT THIS, WHAT THE FAIR MARKET VALUE OF THE HOUSE WOULD BE FOR 250, UH, FOR 2022 IS $250,000. 
          SO THAT'S A FAIR MARKET VALUE HOUSE OF $250,000. 
          WITH THIS PROPOSED BUDGET, WITH THE COUNTY PROPOSED BUDGET WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OF HAMBURG'S, PROPOSED BUDGET WOULD SEE ABOUT A 6,000, UH, $123 TAX BILL, AND 18% OF THAT IS THE TOWN'S PORTION. 
          SO THE ONE 1,112 ON THE WAY BOTTOM IS THE TOWN'S PORTION. 
          COMPARATIVELY, IN 2017, THAT HOMEOWNER WAS PAYING $5,670. 
          SO THERE HAS BEEN ABOUT A $500 INCREASE FROM THERE, UH, BUT ONLY ABOUT $60 IS 'CAUSE OF THE TOWN. 
          UH, AND, AND IN FACT, THE TOWN BACK IN 2017 COMPRISED 18.7% OF THAT TAX BILL. 
          NOW IT'S DOWN TO 18.1. 
          SO THE, THE TOWN SLICE OF THE TOTAL TAXPAYER'S BILL IS ACTUALLY SHRINKING A LITTLE BIT, UM, BECAUSE OF, OF THE, UH, THE, THE, THE TAX RATES THAT WE SAW ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, JUST BRIEFLY LOOKING AT THE, THE SAME, UH, SLIDE, BUT WE, WE SLID THIS PERSON INTO A, A V, THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURG WITH THE HAMBURG SCHOOL DISTRICT. 
          UM, THE PROPOSED BUDGET IS ESTIMATED TO HAVE A TAX BILL OF ABOUT $7,700 VERSUS 2017 WAS 71 42. 
          UH, SO DIFFERENCE ABOUT $600, $550, BUT AGAIN, YOU LOOK AT THE TOWNS PORTION, $492 TO 521, SO ABOUT NOT EVEN $30 INCREASE THERE. 
          UM, AND SIMILAR SITUATION WAS THERE, UH, BACK IN 2017, THE TOWNS COMPONENT OF THE TAX BILL WAS 6.9%, AND SINCE DECREASED TO 6.7. 
          SO THE, THE, THE SHRINKING, UH, PROPORTION WITHIN THE TOWN FOR THE TOWN'S TAX HAS ALSO BEEN FELT FOR THOSE VILLAGE RESIDENTS. 
          WHAT THIS IS, IS, UH, TAX RATE COMPARISON OF THE, UH, TAXING ENTITIES WITHIN YOUR TOWN. 
          UH, THE VERY TOP LINES HAM SCHOOLS, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE, THAT THEIR, THEIR, UH, TAX RATE HAS, UH, A PRETTY, UH, A LITTLE BIT HIGHER OF A DEVIATION, STANDARD DEVIATION INCREASE THERE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE RIGHT WORD, BUT A HIGHER INCREASE, UM, FROM, FOR, FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS, FRONTIER AS WELL. 
          UH, THE, THE LOWER ONES, THE, THE VILLAGE OF BLA BLAZE OUTTA THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURG. 
          THOSE STAYED REALLY CLOSE TO ONE ANOTHER. 
          UM, BUT THEIR LINE WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE STEEP THAN WHERE THE TOWN AND COUNTY WERE. 
          AND THOSE ARE THE, THE BOTTOM ONES THERE. 
          SO THE TOWN, COUNTY, AND PRETTY, PRETTY CLOSE, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE HIGHER, UH, THE, THE MORE STEEP CURVES ARE THE, THE SCHOOLS. 
          UM, AND THEN THIS JUST GOES TO SHOW THAT THE, THE VERY FAIRLY LEVEL RATES FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS, EVEN IF WE GO BEYOND 2017. 
          SO THE LAST FEW SLIDES, WE'RE JUST GONNA REALLY GO THROUGH THE PIE CHART OF WHAT, UM, EACH OF THE TAXPAYERS, WE'VE BROKEN INTO FOUR GROUPS. 
          THE, THE, UH, THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, HAMBURG SCHOOLS, THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURG, HAMBURG SCHOOLS, THE TOWN OF HENDRICK FRONTIER, AND THE VILLAGE OF BLAZEDALE FRONTIER. 
          SO THIS IS THE FIRST ONE, UH, THIS ASSUMES THE TAXPAYER LIVES IN, IN THE TOWN OUTSIDE THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURG SCHOOL DISTRICT. 
          AND THAT'S AT AN 18%, UM, COMPONENT OF THEIR TOTAL TAX BILL, WHICH IS, WHICH IS COMPARABLE TO WHAT WE SHOWED ON THAT, THAT PREVIOUS SLIDE. 
          I THINK I SAID, I BROKE IT DOWN TO THE 10TH, AND I BELIEVE I SAID IT'S AT SEVEN OR 18.1. 
          ROUNDED, OF COURSE IS 18. 
          THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, JUST SHOWS THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURG AND THE HAMBURG SCHOOL 
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DISTRICT, AND THIS ONE SHOWS THE 7%. 
          UM, SO THAT'S 7% OF, OF THE TAXPAYERS, UH, TAX BILLS GO INTO THE TOWN. 
          52% IS GOING INTO THE SCHOOL, 28 GOES TO THE VILLAGE, AND THEN 13 GOES TO THE COUNTY. 
          THIS GOES INTO THE, UH, FRONTIER SCHOOL DISTRICT. 
          SO FRONTIER SCHOOL DISTRICT, IF YOU REMEMBER, WAS THAT RATE WAS A LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN HAMBURG SCHOOLS. 
          SO THERE, THERE, THE FRONTIER SCHOOLS PROPORTION IS A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN THE HAMBURG SCHOOLS AT 58%. 
          THEREFORE, THE TOWN SLIDE SET CHUNK GOES UP A LITTLE BIT BY 22, AND THE COUNTY OF ERIE GOES UP A LITTLE BIT. 
          IT'S AS WELL BY BY 20%. 
          AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS JUST, UH, IT POPS THE, THE VILLAGE OF BLAZE DOWN IN THERE AT 32%, 45% FOR THE FRONTIER SCHOOLS, AND THEN HAMBURG'S PORTION IS 8% WHILE THE COUNTY OF ERIE MAINTAINS SEVEN, UH, 15%. 
          SO THAT IS WHAT I CAME PREPARED WITH. 
          UM, SO I'LL TURN IT BACK TO THE SUPERVISOR. 
          LET ME ASK YOU, IF YOU DON'T MIND, LUKE, MAYBE THE BOARD MEMBERS OR THE AUDIENCE WANNA ASK QUESTIONS TOO. 
          UH, AS YOU PREPARE THE OVERVIEW, UH, AND GOT THESE CHARTS TOGETHER, UH, WHAT ARE YOUR GENERAL IMPRESSIONS IN TERMS OF OUR SPENDING AND OUR TAX, UH, CONTROL OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS? UH, WHAT STRIKES YOU AS GOOD OR NOT SO GOOD? WHAT WOULD YOU SUGGEST? WELL, WITHOUT GIVING OPINIONS, BECAUSE I GOTTA KEEP MY INDEPENDENCE . 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I, I THINK IT'S, IT IS DEFINITELY A CHALLENGE, UM, TO MAINTAIN THE STEADY APPROPRIATIONS THAT WE SAW WHEN WE SEE THE, THE, THESE, THIS, THIS HEALTH INSURANCE INCREASE AT ITS DYNAMIC LEVEL, AS WELL AS THESE RETIREMENT RATES INCREASING AND THESE, UH, APPROPRIATIONS ACTUALLY NOT FOLLOWING A SIMILAR TREND. 
          IT CERTAINLY HAS SLOWED DOWN SINCE THE RETIREMENT HAS GONE. 
          UM, BUT THESE, FROM 15 TO 19, THE APPROPRIATIONS WERE ABLE TO BE, CAME, UH, BECOME SOMEWHAT STEADY FOR THE HEALTH INSURANCE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND ON THAT SIDE AS WELL, UM, YOU WERE, AS I SAID, UH, AT THE SAME TIME WHEN YOU'RE WEANING YOURSELF OFF OF ABOUT 600, $700,000 OF APPROPRIATE FUND BALANCE. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT KIND OF WHAT STRUCK ME THERE. 
          FIRST THING WE TIME, WE WERE ABLE TO DO THIS, I THINK IN 20 YEARS. 
          UH, IN, IN 2021, WE ACTUALLY REDUCED APPROPRIATIONS TO $47.9 MILLION FROM 48.8. 
          THAT WAS THE COVID PROJECTIONS. 
          UH, WHEN WE WERE DOING THE BUDGET FOR 2020, UH, 2021, RATHER, WE, UH, WE CUT OVERTIME, WE WATCHED VEHICLE EXPENSES, WE DID A LOT OF IT. 
          TRAVEL WAS ELIMINATED. 
          UH, AND THIS YEAR, BECAUSE WE, AND WE FROZE MANAGERIAL CONFIDENTIAL SALARIES AND WAGES, UH, SO THIS YEAR, UH, WITH THE INCREASED AMOUNT OF SALES TAX, MORTGAGE TAX, THE VLT BEING UP TO 8 65 AS OPPOSED TO SIX SOMETHING. 
          UH, AND WE ALSO GOT BIGGER REVENUE, UH, THE TOLO CODE ENFORCEMENT, THE CLERK RECREATION, AND SO ON. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE UP TO, UH, SOME OF OUR MANAGERIAL CONFIDENTIAL AND IN SOME, IN SOME OF OUR EMPLOYEES WHO'VE HISTORICALLY LAGGED BEHIND THE UNION EMPLOYEES. 
          SO THAT'S REALLY, UH, I THINK THE PRIMARY DIFFERENCE, UH, IN THE SPENDING BETWEEN 2021, WHICH IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE DONE THAT, GOD KNOWS HOW LONG, AND THEN UP THIS YEAR TO 49.3, WHICH REALLY WOULD JUST FOLLOW THE TREND IF, IF 2021, WHICH IS THE ANOMALY YEAR, YEAH, IT'S REALLY ONLY $500,000 MORE THAN IT WAS IN 2020. 
          THE, I MEAN, IT'S AWFULLY TOUGH TO CUT THE SPENDING BECAUSE, UH, WE'RE LOCKED INTO THE UNION CONTRACTS. 
          WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA PAY PROBABLY MORE IN, UH, REGULAR PENSION COSTS, LOST THE POLICE PENSION. 
          THEY'RE VERY EXPENSIVE. 
          AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE, UH, YOU'VE GOT RETIREMENTS. 
          NOW THESE PEOPLE WHO RETIRE HAVE ACCRUALS, YOU KNOW, VACATION TIME, UNUSED STICK TIME, UH, AND YOU CAN, WITH A LONG TERM EMPLOYEE IN THE BUILDINGS OF GROUND HIGHWAY OF THE POLICE, YOU CAN, THESE EMPLOYEES COULD WALK OUT WITH 60, 70, 80,000 IN ACCRUALS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND SO TO GET WHACKED IN ONE YEAR WITHOUT WARNING, YEAH, WE HAD SIX POLICE OFFICERS LEAVE US IN 2021. 
          WE DON'T, AN, THE CHIEF DOESN'T ANTICIPATE ANY RETIREMENTS COMING UP IN 2022, BUT WE HAD TO PAYOUT, OH, I THINK IT WAS CLOSE TO $300,000 IN ACCU ACCUMULATED ACCRUALS TO THESE RETIREES. 
          SO THIS IS VERY TOUGH, TOUGH TO DO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO, ALRIGHT. 
          ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT SHARE WITH US? NO, NO. 
          THAT'S WHAT I HAD PREPARED. 
          IF THERE'S ANY 
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QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO. 
          WHAT WAS THE PERCENTAGE INCREASE? IF YOU LOOK AT THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, YOU GAVE US THE DOLLAR AMOUNT. 
          YEAH. 
          THEY GAVE US THEIR BUDGET PROPOSALS AND THEN WE GOTTA TRY TO WORK WITH IT. 
          WE, IF WE LISTENED TO WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO, WHAT WOULD WE BE TAXING OUR, WELL, IT WOULD'VE, I DON'T HAVE A CALCULATOR ON ME WITHOUT PULLING MY, OH, THAT'S ALL RIGHT. 
          THEN DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. 
          IT WAS, UH, THEIR, THEIR, THEIR PROPOSED, UH, BUDGET WAS THREE $13 AND 27 CENTS, UM, ON, AND LAST YEAR'S WAS, UH, WHAT WAS IT? LAST YEAR'S WAS $11 AND 29 CENTS. 
          SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT A $2 INCREASE ON $11. 
          SO JUST QUICK MATH, CLOSE TO 20%, 20% INCREASES. 
          YEAH. 
          IF YOU JUST DID NOTHING. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          WE COULDN'T SUSTAIN THAT WITH THE PUBLIC, THAT'S FOR SURE. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYBODY ELSE? UH, BOARD MEMBERS? ANYBODY? NO. 
          NO? OKAY. 
          HOW ABOUT, UH, AS LONG AS WE'RE ALL HERE, UH, ANYBODY FROM THE DEPARTMENT HEADS? ANYONE? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH BUDDY. 
          THANK. 
          SURE. 
          WE'LL MAKE YOU DO THIS AGAIN AT SEVEN. 
          CAN'T WAIT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I DON'T REMEMBER YOU LAST GOT TOGETHER, UH, TWO, THREE WEEKS AGO. 
          KIM, WHAT, WHERE DID WE LEAVE OFF ON THE, GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET? A 70 10. 
          A 73 10 SHOULD BE PAGE 31. 
          ALRIGHT, LET'S GO THERE. 
          ALRIGHT, A 73 10. 
          DOES ANYBODY WANT TO TALK ABOUT ANY PROBLEMS, BUDGETARY QUESTIONS OR PROBLEMS THAT YOU SEE? UH, WITHOUT GETTING INTO PAGE BY PAGE, I'LL GO THROUGH PAGES, BUT ANYTHING ANYBODY SEES THAT IS OF CONCERN TODAY IS, IS THIS PART OF THE, UH, THE HAMBURG WORKOUT CENTER? IS IT PART OF OUR YOUTH? WELL, YEAH, BUT THE, WELL, NO, THE, THE, THE FITNESS CENTER THING WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS AT SEVEN AND I GOT SOME, WE MIGHT AS WELL TALK ABOUT IT. 
          YEAH, I GOT SOME IDEAS. 
          UH, THE FITNESS CENTER REJECTED REVENUE. 
          46,000. 
          THAT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN. 
          THAT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE. 
          UH, THE REVENUE FOR 2020, THAT'S THE PAN, THAT'S THE PANDE IN MARCH. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE PANDEMIC YEAR. 
          IT WENT DOWN TO $9,708. 
          THIS IS FROM KIM IN FINANCE THIS YEAR THROUGH SEPTEMBER. 
          NOW, THIS IS THROUGH THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER WITH THREE MONTHS AGO. 
          WE'RE AT $5,507 AND 65 CENTS. 
          MARTY'S ESTIMATION OF THE OVERALL EXPENDITURES ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE FITNESS CENTER. 
          THAT INCLUDES EMPLOYEES AND ALL MISCELLANEOUS $77,038. 
          SO WE'RE RUNNING AT REALLY A 12 TO ONE RATIO OF EXPENSES OF OPERATION AND REVENUE TAKEN IN. 
          NOW, CLEARLY WE GOT HAMMERED BY THE PANDEMIC, AND LET ME EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          IN 20, IN 2016, WE HAD 363 MEMBERS. 
          IN 2017, WE HAD 423 BIG JUMP. 
          THEN IT WENT DOWN TO 3 95, A DROP OF ABOUT 28, BUT THEN IT WENT DOWN BY 65 MEMBERS IN 2019 TO 330. 
          SO FROM A HIGH WATERMARK IN 2017, WE WENT DOWN ALMOST A HUNDRED MEMBERS INTO 2019. 
          IN 2019 WE BUDGETED, UH, 45,000, AND WE TOOK IN 28,895. 
          THEN IN 2020 FROM THREE 30, IT WENT DOWN TO 132. 
          SO WE ALMOST LOST 200 AGAIN, PANDEMIC. 
          A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T WANNA LEAVE THE HOUSE, A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO COULD AFFORD IT BOUGHT HOME HEALTH EQUIPMENT, UH, PELOTON AND SO FORTH AND SO ON. 
          NOW, IN 2021, WE GO BACK UP TO 1 67, BUT AS MARTY POINTS OUT, THERE ARE DIFFERENT CLASSES OF MEMBERSHIP. 
          SO I LOOKED AT ALL OF THIS STUFF AND I, AND I LOOKED AT WHAT WE WENT THROUGH IN 2019 AND EARLY 20, WELL, ACTUALLY 2018, LATE 2018 TO ALL THROUGH 2019 IN COMING 
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UP WITH INCENTIVES AND PROGRAMS TO FILL THE VACANCIES IN PLAZAS. 
          WELL, WE'VE GOT LUCKY. 
          WE GOT, UH, PLANET FITNESS OVER HERE ON SOUTH PARK, WHICH WAS A NICE ADDITION TO THE PLAZA. 
          AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE CRUNCH CENTER OVER ON CAMP ROAD. 
          LA FITNESS WENT BELLY UP, BUT SOMEBODY CAME IN THERE, ANOTHER ENTITY CAME IN. 
          SO ALL THE HEALTH CLUBS HAD TAKEN A BEAT. 
          SO MY INITIAL THOUGHT WAS, WELL WAIT A MINUTE, WE GOTTA DO SOMETHING ELSE THERE AT THE FITNESS CENTER, THE BEACH, BACK IN THE EARLY NINETIES, IT WAS A YOUTH CENTER. 
          IT WASN'T A, IT WASN'T A FITNESS CENTER. 
          THEN IN THE MID NINETIES, ACCORDING TO MARTY'S HISTORY, UH, WE BEGAN TO PUT SOME EXERCISE EQUIPMENT AND MIX IT UP BECAUSE THE KIDS WEREN'T COMING TO THAT CENTER VERY MUCH. 
          SO BY THE LATE NINETIES, WE'RE PRETTY AND INTO THE EARLY TWOS, WE'RE PRETTY MUCH A FITNESS CENTER. 
          SO, UH, GIVEN THE FACT THAT REVENUES HAVE DROPPED, EVEN PRE PANDEMIC AND MEMBERSHIP HAS DROPPED, EVEN PRE PANDEMIC, ALBEIT NOT AS, AS SUBSTANTIALLY, WHAT DO WE DO? WELL, I DON'T WANNA CLOSE IT UP AND BOARD THE PLACE UP. 
          I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. 
          A LOT OF PEOPLE THOUGHT. 
          SO FROM READING MY, UH, MY OR, UH, FROM THE MEETING I HAD, PHONE CALLS STARTED AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE CLOSING IT DOWN. 
          WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO, BUT I THINK IT MAKES SOME SENSE, IS MARTY AND JOE WEZEL CAME UP WITH SOME IDEAS, AND I THINK THESE IDEAS MAKE SOME SENSE. 
          WE GOTTA KIND OF REINVENT THE PLACE. 
          UH, SO HERE'S, HERE'S WHAT MARTY SAID, AND I THINK JOE DID MORE DETAIL. 
          HE SAID, TIM, WE GOTTA MAKE THE FITNESS CENTER A FITNESS CENTER AND A WELLNESS CENTER. 
          UH, THERE ARE MANY RELATED PROGRAMS WE COULD DEVELOP TO KIND OF GIVE US A UNIQUE NICHE. 
          WE'RE NOT A STRICT FITNESS CLUB, WE'RE A FITNESS CLUB, BUT WE'VE GOT ALL KINDS OF THINGS GOING ON HERE THAT MY PEOPLE MIGHT LIKE. 
          CLASSES IN NUTRITION, EXERCISE, SCIENCE, MENTAL HEALTH, FIRST AID TRAINING, MEDITATION, CREATIVE OUTLOOKS, MINDFULNESS, WE DO YOGA NOW, TAI CHI, UH, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. 
          SO I, AND THEN JOE, UH, WEZEL GIVES MORE DETAILS TO THE PROGRAM. 
          SO WE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY FIXING THAT FACILITY UP, YOU KNOW, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND COSMETICS. 
          SO MY THINKING IS THAT IN ADDITION TO BEING A FITNESS CENTER, WE OUGHT TO BE A WELLNESS CENTER AND OFFER THE MEMBERS SOMETHING THEY CAN'T GET AT PRIVATE HEALTH, PRIVATE FACILITIES, SO THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY, IN ESSENCE COMPETING SO MUCH WITH THEM, BUT TRACKING OUT OUR OWN UNIQUE PATH. 
          NOW, HOW WE DO THIS, WELL, WE GOT A RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD. 
          WE GOT MARTY, WE GOT A STAFF, WE GOT THE MEMBERS COMING, SOME OF THE MEMBERS COMING TONIGHT TO VOICE THEIR OPINIONS. 
          I GOT A MEETING WITH THE MEMBERSHIP, UH, WEDNESDAY MORNING AT EIGHT 30. 
          SO, UH, AND THEY TOLD ME IF I DON'T SHAPE UP, THEY'RE GONNA THROW ME ON THE TREADMILL. 
           AT HIGH SPEED, YOU KNOW, BUT ANYWAY, SO I THINK THAT MIGHT BE THE ANSWER FOR EVERYBODY. 
          UH, YOU CAN'T PROJECT 46,000 IN REVENUE BECAUSE WE DON'T DO THAT ANYMORE. 
          UH, AND 5,000 SOME ODD BUCKS FOR THE FIRST NINE MONTHS IS PRETTY WEAK. 
          SO WE GOTTA, WE GOTTA GET KRAKEN WITH SOME NEW IDEAS, IT SEEMS TO ME. 
          UH, MARTY, WHAT DO YOU SAY TO ME? WHAT DO YOU SAY, JIM? I, I AGREE A HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          AND YOU, UM, ASSESSMENT OF COVID IS CORRECT TOO. 
          WE, WE WERE CLOSED FOR PART OF 2020. 
          UM, WE REOPENED, UH, WE NEVER QUITE GOT THE MEMBERSHIP BACK THAT WE HAD, UH, IN THE PAST. 
          UH, 2021 HAS BEEN EVEN WORSE. 
          UM, I THINK THE MEMBERS THAT WE DID HAVE, LIKE YOU SAID, HAVE GONE ELSEWHERE OR THEY'VE DONE HOME EQUIPMENT. 
          UM, MY THOUGHT IS THAT, UM, THE FACILITY SHOULD BE OPEN FOR SOMETHING. 
          UM, AND WE SHOULD HAVE A STAFF MEMBER. 
          IT'S A SINGLE STAFF, BASICALLY A SINGLE STAFF FACILITY, BUT THAT STAFF MEMBER DOES THE SALES OF, OF BEACH PERMITS AND BOAT LAUNCH PERMITS. 
          SO AT LEAST FOR PART OF THE YEAR, WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT PERSON IN THERE. 
          UM, AND, AND I THINK, UM, UH, I CAN, UH, DEFINITELY, UM, UH, RELATE TO, TO JIM'S CONCERN ABOUT, UM, COMPETING WITH THE PRIVATE BUSINESS. 
          BUT AGAIN, WE'RE VERY MOTIVATED, UH, TO LOOK AT NEW, UH, WAYS TO, UH, PROMOTE PEOPLE COMING TO THE FACILITY, UTILIZING 
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CERTAIN TIES FOR AGE GROUPS, MOMMY AND ME IN THE MORNING, UH, WE THINK WE CAN USE OUR TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM, UH, TO GET MIDDLE SCHOOL KIDS THERE IN THE AFTERNOON. 
          WE CAN HAVE A ADULTS AND FAMILIES IN THE EVENING FOR A MULTITUDE OF, OF PROGRAMMING THAT WOULD REINVENT OURSELVES AND REPURPOSE THE FACILITY. 
          SO I'M HOPING THAT, UM, WE CAN HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY AND THAT, UM, WE HAVE PEOPLE ON OUR STAFF. 
          ONE OF MY FULL-TIME GUYS HAS A, A MASTER'S DEGREE IN HEALTH EDUCATION. 
          WE HAVE A RETIRED, UM, UH, ECC PROFESSOR WHO, UM, IS IN HEALTH, PHYSICAL EDUCATION AND RECREATION, UH, WHO HAS WORKED IN PRIVATE INDUSTRY TOO. 
          SO I THINK IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY, UH, WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THAT POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITY AND HOPE THAT, THAT THOSE CONSIDERATIONS ARE APPROVED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH. 
          YEAH, WELL, UH, ONE OF THE, I GOT ABOUT 25 EMAILS AND WHILE THE MEMBERSHIP IS DECREASING IN NUMBER, WE'RE AT 1 64, 67, 1 67. 
          ANYWAY, THE CORE OF IT'S THERE, 30 OR 40 PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE ARE REALLY INTO IT, AND THEY REALLY LOVE IT. 
          SO, AS I'VE SAID TO THEM, LOOK AT, MAYBE WE'VE GOTTA DO SOME OTHER THINGS. 
          YOU CAN RECRUIT MEMBERS YOURSELF, GENERAL, BUT MAYBE WE'RE GOTTA DO SOME OTHER THINGS TO ATTRACT A BROADER BASE. 
          SO, UH, ONE WOMAN SAID TO ME, WELL, DOES THAT MEAN YOU'RE NOT GONNA CLOSE IT DOWN? I SAID, I CAN'T CLOSE IT DOWN. 
          I CAN ONLY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          THAT'S, IT'S THE BOARD. 
          SO I, I QUOTED THE, UH, I DUNNO IF YOU EVER SAW THE MOVIE THE DARKEST HOUR. 
          DID YOU EVER SEE IT? , THERE'S A LINE AT THE END OF THE MOVIE, UH, WHERE THE, THE PRINCIPAL CHARACTER SAYS TO HIS BUDDY, UH, ONE WHO'S NEVER CHANGED, HIS MIND NEVER CHANGES ANYTHING. 
          SO, SO I SAID TO THIS WOMAN, UH, RELAX, WE'LL COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT'LL WORK, HOPEFULLY. 
          AND IF IT DOESN'T WORK, WE'LL LOOK AT IT TWO, THREE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. 
          I ASSUME I WON'T BE AROUND TO LOOK AT IT, BUT, UH, A NEW SUPERVISOR AND A NEW BOARD WILL TAKE A LOOK. 
          YEAH. 
          SEEMS FROM THE EMAILS, PEOPLE WERE PRETTY, UH, HOW WOULD YOU PUT IT, UH, DIEHARD ABOUT YEAH. 
          HAVING THE PLACE DEDICATED AND OH, YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, IT REALLY WOULD, WOULD OFFEND THEM IF YEAH. 
          WELL THAT'S RIGHT. 
          BUT AS I SAID TO THEM, LOOK AT YOU'RE, YOU, YOU'RE RIGHT, MIKE. 
          LET'S ASSUME YOU'RE USED TO A SERVICE YOU'RE GETTING FOR, FOR TWO DECADES OR THREE, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU GET THE PHONE CALL FROM SOMEBODY SAYING, SHAW  IS GONE CLOSE DOWN THE CENTER ON, ON OCTOBER THE 25TH. 
          SO I GUESS THAT WOULD TICK YOU OFF, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          UH, WHICH IS OKAY. 
          I MEAN, I, THAT FORCED THEM AND FORCES ME TO, UH, RELY ON THAT. 
          NO ONE WILL EVER CHANGES. 
          HIS MIND EVER CHANGES ANYTHING. 
          AND SO I THINK IT FORCES US TO, TO REINVENT WHERE WE ARE, WHERE WE WANNA BE, UH, BECAUSE IT'S UNSUSTAINABLE. 
          YOU CAN'T KEEP OPERATING IF THE MEMBERSHIP DECREASES AND WE'RE GONNA TAKE IN FOUR OR FIVE GRAND A YEAR. 
          THAT DOESN'T MAKE A HELL OF A LOT OF SENSE. 
          BUT ANYWAY, SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THE FOLKS, UH, WEDNESDAY MORNING, AND THEN WE'LL SEE A GOOD PORTION OF TONIGHT. 
          MARTY, CAN I ASK A QUESTION ON THIS? ABSOLUTELY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WHEN THIS GOT STARTED AND GOT GOING AND STARTED PICKING UP STEAM, AND YOU STARTED ADDING MORE EQUIPMENT MM-HMM . 
          AND IT WAS GROWING MM-HMM . 
          UM, HOW DID PEOPLE FIND OUT ABOUT IT? WELL, UM, GOING BACK IT, UH, A YOUTH CENTER, WE GOT MORE AND MORE EQUIPMENT. 
          WE GOT MORE AND MORE RENOVATIONS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE PROMOTED IT LIKE WE DO OTHER OF OUR PROGRAMS. HOW DID YOU, THROUGH THE HAMBURG SUN. 
          OKAY. 
          THROUGH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, THROUGH, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, DIFFERENT, UM, YOU KNOW, BACK IN THOSE DAYS, I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH WE USED LIKE WEBSITE. 
          THERE WAS NO FACEBOOK AT THE TIME. 
          BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, LEAST, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, 10 DIFFERENT WAYS THAT, THAT WE TRY TO GET THE, UH, THE WORD OUT DEPENDING ON, AND, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE, THE NOT REBOUNDING IS ON US. 
          YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T DO THE RIGHT JOB IN TERMS OF ATTRACTING OUR MEMBERSHIP. 
          UH, WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN, UM, TALKING TO THE PEOPLE WHEN THEY CAME IN BY THE BEACH STICKER AND OFFERING THEM A DEAL. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU BUY YOUR BEACH STICKER, YOU GET A, A WEEK FREE OR A MONTH FREE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST. 
          UM, WE SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT SHAME ON US FOR, FOR NOT, YOU KNOW, DOING THE BEST MARKETING JOB THAT WE COULD. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, WITH, I THINK YOUR QUESTION IS 
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HOW DO WE GET THE WORD OUT AND MULTIPLE WAYS, FACEBOOK, WEBSITE, THE SUN, THE BUFFALO NEWS. 
          SO, SO YOU WOULD SAY THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, IN THE BE OR A WHILE BACK, YOU WERE ADVERTISING IT MORE THAN KIND OF RECENTLY? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, ALRIGHT. 
          UM, YEAH, IT IS HARD TO ADVERTISE THAT LIKE BROADLY BECAUSE IT'S RESTRICTED, YOU KNOW? YEAH. 
          WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ADVERTISE FOR THE SENIOR CENTER OF THE RINK AND THE GOLF COURSE WE WANT OUTSIDE PEOPLE COMING IN MM-HMM . 
          WE, WE DON'T. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THAT'S LIKE, I LOOK AT IT THIS WAY, LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE BUDGET AND I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT THIS NUMBER, YOU LOOK AT THIS NUMBER, OH MY GOD, WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING KILLED ON THIS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BUT THE NIKE BASE, WE LOSE ON MM-HMM . 
          YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THINGS WE LOSE ON, BUT PEOPLE ARE ACCUSTOMED TO IT. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, WELL, I ALWAYS TELL MY STAFF THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, BOARD MEMBERS ARE GONNA LOOK AT US AS FLUFF. 
          WE'RE NOT FLUFF. 
          WE WE'RE IMPORTANT TO QUALITY OF LIFE AND THE ECONOMY OF, OF THE TOWN BENEFITS FROM WHAT WE DO. 
          BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN LIKE, IF WE DON'T PERFORM, PEOPLE ARE GONNA SAY LIKE, WE GOTTA CUT THE FLUFF AND WE'VE GOTTA PERFORM. 
          AND, AND I AM EMBARRASSED BY, BY THOSE NUMBERS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE, WE WERE UP AROUND 40 AND, AND, AND ABOVE. 
          YEP. 
          YOU KNOW, IN THE MID 2000 TEENS, NOW WE'RE GOING DOWN AND WE, WE DIP DRAMATICALLY, AND THAT'S NOT RIGHT. 
          THAT'S ON US. 
          WE'VE GOT TO, UH, WE'VE GOTTA DO BETTER. 
          UM, SO, UM, AGAIN, IF THIS OPPORTUNITY, UH, ALLOWS US TO, TO CHANGE COURSE, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE MOTIVATED TO DO SO. 
          I THINK THE PEOPLE WILL BE TOO. 
          WHEN DO, UM, WHEN DO THE MEMBERS TYPICALLY GET THEIR MEMBERSHIP? ANY TIME? ANYTIME. 
          BUT WHEN IS THE HIGHEST CONCENTRATION OF PEOPLE GETTING THEIR MEMBERSHIPS? BECAUSE MY THOUGHT IS THAT, I MEAN, THE PANDEMIC CERTAINLY IMPACTED THIS, AND I KNOW THAT WELL, PEOPLE REALLY GET VACCINATED. 
          THEY WERE KIND OF RECONSIDERING THESE SORT OF THINGS. 
          SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S DROPPED, I LOOK AT THIS AND I THINK, WELL, IT'S UP 30 PEOPLE FROM LAST YEAR THAT PERHAPS IT'LL GO INTO AN UPSWING AS WE'RE COMING OUT OF BEING SO RESTRICTED. 
          UH, LIKE ANY FITNESS CENTER, DECEMBER, JANUARY IS OUR BIG SURGE. 
          PEOPLE ARE READY TO MAKE THE RESOLUTION AND PEOPLE REGISTER AND JOIN THE CLUBS. 
          THEY MAY HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE HESITANT THIS YEAR THOUGH. 
          YEAH. 
          GIVEN, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE, WELL, AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR, IT WAS A PRETTY, YOU KNOW, GRIM LOOK. 
          YOU KNOW, I THINK IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, AROUND THANKSGIVING WE HAD TO SHUT DOWN THINGS AGAIN. 
          AND, AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHEN WE REOPENED, BUT I THINK WE WERE A LITTLE BIT LATE REOPENING WHEN OTHER PLACES DID, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE WERE BEING VERY CAREFUL. 
          BUT, UH, UH, MARTY, I USUALLY, I JOINED, I JOINED FITNESS CENTERS OVER THE YEARS MM-HMM . 
          UH, UH, THEY NEVER DID HAVE A PRORATED MEMBERSHIP FROM JANUARY TO FEBRUARY THE 15TH. 
          THAT'S ABOUT THE TIME OUR RESOLUTION RAN OUT, YOU KNOW, . 
          BUT ANYWAY, I RECEIVED, I KNOW PROBABLY OVER 50 EMAILS AND THE ONE, THE ONE COMMON THREAD THAT PEOPLE WERE SAYING, AND, AND A LOT OF IT WAS, YOU KNOW, OUR OLDER ADULT POPULATION WAS THE UNIQUE ENVIRONMENT THAT IT IS DIFFERENT THAN A, THAN A CORPORATE GYM. 
          UM, SO IS THERE ALSO LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY IF WE ARE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, REVAMP THE SERVICE THERE TO USE LIKE RESPITE PLAN FUNDING TO, TO ASSIST WITH THOSE OFFERS? WELL, THAT'S, I'M, I'M VERY OPEN TO THAT AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT FALLS UNDER THE YEAH. 
          UMBRELLA OF WHAT'S, I'M VERY OPEN TO THAT NOW, OBVIOUSLY WITH OUR SENIOR CENTER, WE HAVE A FITNESS CENTER THERE TOO MM-HMM . 
          AND WE HAVE CLASSES THAT RUN IN THE GYM ALL THE TIME. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BUT WE DO HAVE A CORE GROUP OF SENIORS THAT COME IN THE MORNING AND THEY'RE A VERY SOCIAL GROUP. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THEY DO MORE CONVINCING THAN WORKING OUT, BUT HEY, THEY, THEY LOVE IT. 
          UM, SO YES, THAT IS ONE OF OUR CORE GROUPS AS IS. 
          UH, WE HAVE AN INSTRUCTOR, BECKY, THAT, THAT DOES YOGA PROGRAMS AND SHE HAS A SOLID 30 PLUS PEOPLE AND SHE'S BEEN OUTSIDE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY LIKE TO DO IT ON THE BEACH, BUT SHE WANTS TO BRING IT IN NOW, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE WEATHER COMING, SO. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, MARTY, I THINK THAT THE, THE PROBABLY A GENERAL CONSENSUS THAT, UH, WE OUGHT TO GET CREATIVE, WE OUGHT TO REINVENT. 
          UH, I LIKE THE IDEA OF FIT HAMBURG FITNESS AND WELLNESS CENTER. 
          UH, THERE IS AN EPIDEMIC HERE, AND NOT JUST IN OUR TOWN, BUT EVERYWHERE. 
          HEART DISEASE, TYPE TWO DIABETIC, DIABETES, NUTRITIONAL PROGRAMS FOR SENIORS WOULD BE JUST TERRIFIC IN THAT BUILDING. 
          THAT'D BE GREAT. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, AGAIN, WE LOOK FORWARD TO THAT OPPORTUNITY AND I THINK WE COULD COME UP WITH A MENU OF, OF PROGRAMMING AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, AS I SAID TO YOU ONE TIME TOO, JIM, UM, WE CAN BRING IN, UH, OUTSIDE, UH, VENDORS TO MAKE PRESENTATIONS AND WE'VE GOT A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP NOW, 
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OBVIOUSLY THEY'D HAVE TO HAVE PROPER INSURANCE AND, UH, AND AN AGREEMENT. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY WHERE IT'S TURNKEY. 
          WE, WE RUN A PROGRAM AND WE CHARGE, UM, A FEE AND THEN WE GET THE FEE AND WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR STAFF. 
          YEAH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YEAH. 
          ALRIGHT, WELL, ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS TOPIC THEN? ALRIGHT. 
          HOW MUCH TIME WE GOT BEFORE WE OH, WE HAVE PLENTY OF TIME. 
          OH, WE GOTTA GO INTO THE WORK SESSION FOR AND TALK ABOUT THE AGENDA. 
          WELL, ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, LET ME GO BACK TO THE PAGES THEN. 
          I, AND WE DON'T FINISH TONIGHT. 
          WE'LL HAVE TO FINISH AT ANOTHER TIME, BUT, UH, UM, THERE'S A MISTAKE HERE ON 31, I THINK. 
          KIM, LOOK WHERE IT SAYS PEN DIXIE. 
          YES. 
          OUR FRIENDS THAT YEAH, WE, I THINK WE KEEP 'EM AT 10,000. 
          THAT'S A MISTAKE. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I JUST WANT TO CORRECT THAT IF, CAN I COMMENT ON THAT CHANCE PLEASE? UM, YEAH, MY, UM, MY RECOMMENDATION WAS, WAS, UH, 10,000. 
          SO I THINK IT WAS JUST A TYPO. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT, UM, WE GAVE 'EM 10 LAST YEAR AND YEAH, I THINK IT'S A TYPO. 
          BUT IF YOU LOOK AT POINT 17 ALSO, THAT'S A MISTAKE. 
          EXTREME SOFTBALL. 
          YEAH. 
          500. 
          THAT SHOULD BE 500. 
          THAT'S AN EXTREME AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR EXTREME SOFTBALL, . 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, AND ALSO THERE'S ANOTHER MISTAKE. 
          UH OH, NO, I'M SORRY. 
          UH, IT'S NOT HARMONIOUS IS AT 10,000. 
          THAT'S OKAY. 
          WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE PROMISED HIM, AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR. 
          ANY OTHER MISTAKES ON THAT PAGE? KIM OR MARTY? ANYBODY? I DON'T HAVE ANY, NO. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, LET'S SEE. 
          PAGE 32. 
          WE GOT THE, UH, LIBRARY MAINTENANCE. 
          WE'VE GOT THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, THEY'VE GOT, UH, MENTIONED HERE, GUYS, UH, THE LAKESHORE HVAC SYSTEM. 
          I BELIEVE PAT RYAN'S NOT HERE YET, BUT I BELIEVE WE DID, UH, UH, 50, $60,000 WORTH OF WORK IN 2019 ON THE LAKE SHORE HVA SYSTEM. 
          IT WAS 2020. 
          2020. 
          WAS IT? ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, AND I THOUGHT WE DID SOMETHING ON HAMBURG, THE VILLAGE TOO. 
          I'M NOT SURE, BUT I, WITH TO CHECK THAT OUT, THERE'S, THERE'S APA REQUEST TO DO H V'S. 
          UH, UPDATES, UH, GENERATORS ON, ON OUR POLICE BUILDING, OUR MAIN BUILDING HERE. 
          UH, AND, AND, UH, HIGHWAY AND B AND G TOO. 
          OKAY. 
          NOW, MR. BAKER AND THE HISTORICAL GROUP, THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AS ALWAYS. 
          UH, THEY'RE WONDERFUL PEOPLE. 
          THOSE FOLKS. 
          COMMUNITY BEAUTIFICATION. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THEY GOT LEFT OVER IN THEIR BUDGET 'CAUSE THEY DIDN'T RUN THE BLAST AT THE BEACH TWO YEARS AGO. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY GOT, BUT WE GAVE 'EM 5,000 AGAIN. 
          SO THEY MAY BE ABLE TO RUN A SUPER BLAST AT THE BEACH. 
          THEY MIGHT HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO DO THAT. 
          , UH, DRAINAGE, UH, CAM ON PAGE 33, REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE DRAINAGE IS, I, I, I'M NOT SURE, THAT'S NOT OBVIOUSLY OUR ENTIRE APPROPRIATION FOR STORM SEWER DRAINAGE IN THE TOWN. 
          WHAT DOES THAT PERTAIN TO AGAIN? I'M SORRY. 
          THAT'S OKAY. 
          I'M LOOKING SEE. 
          OKAY, THANKS. 
          I CAN'T REMEMBER BECAUSE IT IS WHAT HE REQUESTED TO PAY TOWARDS A SALARY FOR SOMEONE DOING THAT. 
          IT COULD BE. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          YEAH, THEY HAVEN'T SPENT ANYTHING OUT OF IT THIS YEAR AT THIS POINT, HUH. 
          WELL, WE'LL, WE'LL CHECK THAT OUT, UH, KIM AND SEE WHAT THAT IS. 
          I'M NOT SURE. 
          LAST YEAR THEY SPENT 6,600 AND THEN CONTRACTED PERSONAL SERVICES. 
          I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT IS FOR DRAINAGE EITHER. 
          I, I, I DON'T GET THAT, BUT I'LL, I'LL WE'LL CHECK IT OUT. 
          OKAY? MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. 
          UM, WE RECOMMEND THAT MR. HALL GETS A 3% RAISE. 
          UM, THE OVERTIME IS THE OVERTIME. 
          UM, LET'S SEE. 
          EVERYTHING ELSE IS PRETTY STANDARD THERE. 
          UH, LET'S SEE. 
          YEAH, WE APPROPRIATE SOME MONEY THAT, THAT IS REIMBURSED TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDING. 
          THAT'S REP THAT'S THE SAME, THE SAME ALMOST EVERY YEAR. 
          THE SAME LITTLE WAR THIS YEAR, 2,500 WAR. 
          SO, AND ALSO TWO FOLKS, UH, THEY WANTED TO GET A VEHICLE. 
          NOW YOU NOTICE THERE'S A DEPARTMENTAL REQUEST THERE FOR 20 5K. 
          UH, WE LOOKED AT THE LEASING POSSIBILITIES AS WELL AS GETTING THEM A USED VEHICLE. 
          SO THE BOARD'S GOT, WE GOTTA DECIDE WHAT WE WANT TO DO THERE. 
          CHRIS SAYS THAT, UH, THIS 2004 
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BIG MONSTROUS CAR IS, UH, IS READY FOR THE JUNK AIR. 
          THAT'S HIS, THAT'S HIS STORY. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, LET'S SEE. 
          A DA COMPLIANCE, UM, THERE'S ACTUALLY A MISTAKE THERE. 
          WHAT IS IT? UM, 1 0 3 LINE. 
          THE DEPARTMENT REQUEST IS ACTUALLY 5,200. 
          'CAUSE CHRIS, MR.  REQUESTED TO INCREASE HIS STIPEND. 
          OH YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          HE WANTED, UH, IS THAT, WHICH ONE? THE EIGHT, THE 1 0 3 8 6 8 7 1 0 3 OH OH, OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          WE WOULD GET, WE DIDN'T INCREASE HIS STIPEND. 
          NO. 
          WE KEPT HIM AT 2,500. 
          RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          BUT THE REQUEST WAS 5,200. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, OKAY. 
          BUT WE DID GIVE 'EM A 3% RAISE, SO THAT, THAT HELPED A LITTLE BIT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          UH, LET'S SEE. 
          A DA COMPLIANCE, THAT'S PRETTY STANDARD STUFF. 
          I THINK. 
          ANYBODY GOT ANY QUESTIONS THERE? THE CONSERVATION BOARD DID NOT MUCH TO GO ON THERE. 
          THEY PRETTY MUCH THE SAME. 
          UH, UH, THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TEAM, UH, WHICH CARRIES US OVER INTO, UH, EMPLOYEE BENEFITS ON PAGE 35. 
          UM, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THAT. 
          UH, WE, FOR THE MOST PART, UH, WE GOT OUR, FOR THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT DESHAUN WANTED TO GET, WHICH IS A ONE TIME ONLY THING. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, LET'S SEE. 
          OVER ON THE NEXT PAGE. 
          THIS IS THE CONTINUATION OF, UH, THE BUDGET FOR HIS DEPARTMENT. 
          UH, SEAN WANTED TO GET A, SEAN CRO WANTED TO GET A A, A SUBSTANTIAL RAISE. 
          WE GOT A, UH, A RAISE FROM 83 AND CHANGE TO 87 AND CHANGE, WHICH IS ABOUT A 5% INCREASE. 
          AND HE'S ELIGIBLE ONE OF THE FEW DEPARTMENT HEADS ALONG WITH PAT RYAN, UH, ELIGIBLE FOR OVERTIME. 
          HE HAD ABOUT 17,000 IN OVERTIME LAST YEAR. 
          SO WITH THE OVERTIME, HE MAY BE HITTING THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS MARK. 
          UH, BUT HE WAS LOOKING, SO YOU ALL KNOW, HE MAY HAVE CONTACTED YOU. 
          HE'S LOOKING TO GET, UH, A BIGGER RAISE. 
          UM, AND THAT'S, LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE WE GOT HERE. 
          I CAN'T, I DON'T KNOW, KIM. 
          I DON'T SEE ANY MORE THERE, DO YOU? NO, THAT WAS IT. 
          JUST OUR FUNDS. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT WE WERE USING FOR HIS EQUIPMENT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEN YOU GOT OUR DEBT SERVICE, UM, ON THE BONDS. 
          THE TROUBLE WE'RE FACING TOO, IS WE GOTTA START MAKING THE PRINCIPAL PAYMENTS THIS YEAR ON THE $9.8 MILLION BOND WE TOOK OFF FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. 
          UH, WE ARE STUCK. 
          'CAUSE THE FIRST YEAR WE HAD TO PAY ONLY INTEREST, YOU REMEMBER? SO WE'RE STUCK WITH HAVING TO PAY THAT BACK. 
          AND WE DON'T HAVE THE BENEFIT OF THE, UH, LED LIGHTING SAVINGS TO OFFSET THAT EXPENDITURES. 
          THAT MAKES IT EVEN TOUGHER FOR US, BUT OKAY. 
          IT'S WHAT IT IS. 
          UH, ANYTHING ON THE 99 50 ACCOUNT, DO YOU THINK, KIM, THAT YOU SEE? AND LUKE, IF YOU, UH, IF YOU SEE ANYTHING YOU WANNA POINT OUT TO US, FEEL FREE TO JUMP IN. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, JUST ON THE, THAT 99 50, THE 99 70 ACCOUNTS, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE DRIVEN FROM THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS BUDGET. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO YOU'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE WHEN YOU GET THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THE, THE ONE THING THAT WE, YOU DO KEEP AN EYE ON, AND IT'S, IT'S IN A DECENT SHAPE, BUT IS THE, THE GENERAL INSURANCE AND THE WORKERS' COMPENSATION THAT HAS EBBS AND BLOWS AS FAR AS HOW MUCH IS GOING HIT A LOW POINT A FEW YEARS BACK. 
          BUT KIM KEEPS AN EYE ON THAT. 
          SO THAT'S JUST, YOU'RE ABLE TO KEEP IT STEADY. 
          'CAUSE HE HAD SOME SAVINGS YEARS PAST. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT THAT'S ONE THAT CAN JUMP OUT PRETTY QUICKLY. 
          I THINK THE WORKERS' COMP THING IS, IS GONNA HIT US IN 2022. 
          I THINK SO. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WELL, DO YOU WANT TO GET INTO THE MEETING NOW AT FIVE 30 IS THE WORK THING, HUH? AND THEN WE'LL GET TO GO BACK. 
          WE'VE GOT TIME AFTER WE GO THROUGH THE AGENDA, WE'LL COME BACK AND LOOK AT THIS AGAIN. 
          OKAY. 
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OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          LET'S SEE WHAT WE GOT HERE. 
          UM, NO. 
          WELL, WE'VE GOT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BUDGETS THAT THEY GOT. 
          THEY'LL HAVE THEIR HEARING COMING UP AT, UH, SEVEN O'CLOCK. 
          THEY GO FIRST. 
          YOU KNOW, AND I'LL TELL YOU, I BE HONEST WITH YOU, UH, ON PAGE 53 OF THE, OF THE BUDGET BOOK IS THE FIRE APPROPRIATIONS PAGE 53, JUST SO YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT. 
          UM, IT'S VERY TOUGH, UH, BECAUSE THE, THE, THE CHIEFS PRESENT YOU WITH A ONE PAGE 1, 2 25, 480 5,000. 
          WE WANT 35,000 FOR FIRE MEDICAL EQUIPMENT. 
          WE WANT 28,000 FOR INSURANCE, THIS, THIS, THIS, AND THIS. 
          SO YOU SAY, WELL, HOW DO I KNOW THAT'S JUSTIFIABLE? HOW CAN I FIGURE THAT OUT? SO WHAT I, WHAT I, WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS LOOK AT WHAT THEY REQUEST, WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR, AND TRY TO FIGURE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT'S SOFT IN THEIR NUMBERS. 
          BUT IT'S, IT'S REALLY EDUCATED GUESSWORK. 
          SO WHAT WE INVITE THE FOLKS TO DO TONIGHT IS SAY, LOOK IT, IF YOU WANT TO MAKE APPOINTMENTS THAT DID IT LAST INTERVIEW BEFORE TO COME IN AND SEE ME OR SEE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO, TO ARGUE YOUR CASE SPECIFICALLY AND BRING IN SOME BACKUP INFORMATION, THEN, UH, I THINK WE CAN ACCOMMODATE 'EM. 
          BUT WE DO THE BEST WE CAN. 
          EVERYBODY GOT A RAISE, I THINK. 
          LET'S SEE. 
          YEAH, EVERY DEPARTMENT GOT SUM RAISE, BUT NOT AS MUCH AS THEY WOULD REQUEST NATURALLY. 
          BUT IT'S AWFULLY DAMN HARD BECAUSE IT'S ALL DONE ON A SHEET OF ONE PAPER, SOMETIMES TWO SHEETS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S THAT ONE. 
          AND OF COURSE, WE GET NOTHING  ONE OF THESE DAYS. 
          THE, WHEN I'M GONE, YOU GUYS WILL HAVE TO HAVE SOME FOOT SPOT AND SAY, HEY, THE COUNCILMAN SUPERVISOR, HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENT GOTTA GET RAISES, CLERK. 
          AND THE JUDGES LAID OUT LIKE BANDITS, . 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU'RE GONNA HIT ME NOW, KATHY, OR LATER. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UH, KAREN HO HAS GOT THE MINUTES. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, TRICK OR TREAT. 
          ONE GUY SENT ME AN EMAIL SAYING, LOOK, YOU DUMMY, IT SHOULD BE SATURDAY NIGHT BECAUSE SUNDAY NIGHT'S A BILLS GAME. 
          MONDAY NIGHT AT SCHOOL, UH, THERE'LL BE A LOT OF REERS COMING BACK FROM THE GAME. 
          BUT THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURGER AND THE VILLAGE OF BLAZE, THEY'LL BEAT ME TO THE PUNCH. 
          THEY WENT AHEAD AND WENT SUNDAY. 
          SO I TOLD THE GUY HE GOT PRETTY ANGRY. 
          UM, LET'S SEE. 
          THERE'S A PERSONAL ACTION FORM HERE ON KATHY. 
          OH, KATHY, THIS IS, UH, RELATING TO THE, UH, THE SEASONAL PART-TIMERS YOU HAD IN THE OFFICE, RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          UHHUH . 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN KAREN'S GOT THE, UH, BEACH SECURITY. 
          UH, I DON'T SEE IT. 
          OH, HERE HE IS. 
          JOE O'BRIEN. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, JOE IS IN THE, CAN YOU GET A LITTLE OF THIS? JOE'S IN THE BUILDINGS OF BROWNS DEPARTMENT? THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. 
          HE SHOULD BE IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, I WOULD THINK. 
          ANYWAY, JOE'S TERMINATION DATE WAS NINE SEVEN AND HE STARTED IN JUNE THE SIXTH. 
          HE PROBABLY COULD HAVE STARTED A WEEK EARLIER. 
          WELL, THAT'S, AND ALSO WE PROPOSE TO GIVE JOE A TWO BUCK AN HOUR INCREASE AT $22 AS OPPOSED TO 20. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S IN THE, FOR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET. 
          UH, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. 
          UM, OH, THIS IS KAREN. 
          THIS IS THE, UH, THIS IS THE PART-TIME SEASONAL. 
          UH, SHE, UH, SHE WANTS TO TAKE THE CLERK. 
          OUR, OUR DIRECTOR WANTS TO TAKE THE CLERK CLERK NOW AND MOVE HER TO THE SEASONAL FROM THE PART-TIME POSITION STARTING ON NOVEMBER THE FIRST. 
          AND WE GOTTA TALK ABOUT THIS DEPARTMENT TOO, BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, THAT'S A, UH, THAT'S A RATHER UNIQUE SITUATION. 
          LET'S SEE HERE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS. 
          APARTMENT IS OPEN FOR HEAVY EQUIPMENT OPERATORS, SPECIAL LABORER, FULL-TIME LABOR. 
          EACH JOB IS BID AND POSTED SIGNS. 
          AND THIS IS THE BREAKDOWN, UH, STEWARD BECOMES THIS, UH, HEAVY EQUIPMENT OPERATOR, A STEWARD. 
          THESE ARE VACANCIES, ALLEGEDLY THAT THEY'RE, BECAUSE THEY WORK MORE THAN, UH, 50% 
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OF THE TIME IN THIS VACANT POSITION FOR SIX MONTHS, AND THE POSITION IS VACANT, THEY, THEY CLAIM TO STEP UP SPECIAL LABORER TO A GUY BY THE NAME OF MCLAUGHLIN, BRIAN STEWART, AND A FULL-TIME LABORER'S POSITION TO KUKA. 
          I THINK HE'S A PART-TIMER NOW. 
          ANYWAY, THAT'S THAT ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, LET'S SEE. 
          SEAN'S CONLEY'S GOT THE, UH, WHICH IS MARTY DEKE. 
          MARTY, I GUESS THIS IS JUST PART-TIME SEASONAL, UH, STARTS AND TERMINATION DATES. 
          RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, LET'S SEE, KAREN, WHO'S GOT THE PERSONAL SAFETY DISPATCH DEPARTMENT? WHAT THE, SO, SO, OH, PAUL RANDALL LEFT. 
          THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. 
          AND, UH, BENJAMIN TESSER IS THE NEW APPOINTEE FOR THE PART-TIME PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCHER. 
          UH, RANDALL LEFT THE JOB FOR SOME REASON. 
          ALRIGHT, LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE WE GOT HERE. 
          WELL, YOU KNOW, UH, THIS IS THE ORDER ON CONSENT, AND I ALSO GOT AN OPINION, UH, FROM, UH, UM, THE ASSOCIATION OF TOWNS. 
          WE CAN LOOK AT THAT EXPENDITURE FROM  AND SEWER DISTRICT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT TOWN WIDE THING UNDER A RPA. 
          REALLY? YEP. 
          NOW THAT'S REALLY, SO THIS IS THE ORDER ON CONSENT. 
          WE DON'T HAVE THE ORDER ATTACHED TO THE RESOLUTION, WHICH IS PROBABLY, WE AT LEAST I DON'T YOU, WE SHOULD HAVE IT ATTACHED. 
          BUT ANYWAY, UH, I'M, I'M AUTHORIZED TO SIGN THE CONSENT. 
          IT'S AN ORDER ON STIPULATION, AN ORDER ON CONSENT. 
          SO I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE IT ENTIRELY OF WHAT WE'RE CONSENTING TO. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UH, LET'S SEE. 
          THIS IS, UH, OH, KAREN SHAW'S ON THIS ONE. 
          THE TOM BOARD APPROVED THE PURCHASE OF ONE NEW AND USED 2022 TRANSIT, THREE 50 CARGO RWD, HIGH ROOF EXTENSION VAN WEST, HER 51,779 GOT A LEGISLATIVE GRANT FROM THE COUNTY LEGISLATURE AND $25,000 DONATION FROM WEST HER FORD. 
          I THINK THAT THE POLICE, KIM RE REQUESTED THIS VAN IN THEIR BUDGET FOR 2022. 
          THEY DID INCLUDE IT NOT IN THE BUDGET FOR 22. 
          IT WAS JUST LIKE CAPITAL PART OF THE CAPITAL PROJECT. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          BECAUSE THEY KNEW THAT THEY HAD, UM, ALRIGHT. 
          SOME SUPPORT FROM WEST HER. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          THAT'S GOOD. 
          SO THAT, THAT'S TAKEN CARE OF. 
          YOU CAN'T GET A BETTER DEAL THAN THAT THANKS TO WEST HER AND TO THE LEGISLATOR. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          OH YEAH. 
          THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS WHERE YOU CHARGE BACK SERVICES, THE TOWN APPROPRIATED TO, UH, VARIOUS PROPERTIES, GRASS CUTTING A LOT OF TIMES, UH, FOR PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T MOW THEIR LAWN, WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO COME IN AND DO IT AND BILL FOR IT. 
          BUT THERE WERE TWO BIG DEMOS THIS YEAR. 
          ONE ON LAKE LAKE AVENUE IN, UH, WOODLAWN NEAR ROUTE FIVE, AND THEN THE OTHER ONE ON CAMP ROAD ACROSS FROM, UH, THE, UH, THAT APPLE SPRINGS POST OFFICE AND THAT TWO, THAT, UH, HARDWARE STORE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE BRIDGE IS. 
          UH, SO THOSE ARE THE TWO BIG ITEMS. UH, THE CAMP ROAD DEAL WAS 18,000 A CHANGE, AND THE LAKE AVENUE WAS 20 3085. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THIS IS YOU BETH FERRELL, UH, TOWN AUTHORIZED DEPARTMENT OF C DEVELOPMENT TO ADVERTISE BIDS FOR THE FOLLOWING CDBG PROJECT ACCESSIBILITY AND MODIFICATIONS. 
          WELL, AT, YEAH, THE TOWN HALL, WE'VE ALREADY, WE'VE ALREADY ADDRESSED THE FUNDING ON THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          NOW, WALTER, CAN I ASK YOU ABOUT 17? WHAT HAVE YOU, CAN YOU OFFER US ABOUT THAT? WHAT HAVE YOU DETERMINED? I, UH, I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE AGREEMENT AS IT'S WRITTEN. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I'M PLAYING BIG FEE MORE IS SUPPOSED TO BE REACHING OUT TO ME. 
          UH, IT HASN'T YET. 
          I THINK WE'LL BE OUTTA TOWN TODAY AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO IRON OUT THE AGREEMENT TO HOPEFULLY PUT THIS IN PLACE. 
          IS THERE ANY URGENCY IF THIS DOESN'T GET DONE UNTIL THE, UH, 
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OUR NEXT MEETING? DOES THAT PREJUDICE ANYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING? I, I'M NOT AWARE OF IT. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHEN THEY CAN START. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          AND, UM, OKAY. 
          IT'S NOT URGENT IN THE FACT THAT YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, YEAH. 
          IT, IT'LL BE A NICE SERVICE WHEN, WHEN IT'S IN PLACE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE IT TOMORROW. 
          SURE. 
          YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHENEVER, UH, WE CAN GET THE AGREEMENT WORKED OUT TO THE BEST INTEREST. 
          THAT'S GOOD. 
          US. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SHOULD WE TABLE? YEAH, I THINK WE BETTER TABLE THAT. 
          RIGHT? WALLER WOULD THAT TO YOUR SUGGESTION? YES, WOULD BE UNTIL WE GET THE, THE CONTRACT SQUARED AWAY. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO IN THAT CONTRACT WALL? WELL, THE CONTRACT REFERENCES HAVING A FOOD TRUCK AT SENIOR SERVICES CENTER. 
          RIGHT. 
          THE RULES FOR FOOD TRUCKS IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURGERS, THAT THERE'S A PERMIT FEE OF 500 A DAY. 
          SO ARE WE GONNA CHARGE FEED MORE $500 A DAY THAN A FOOD TRUCK THERE? PROBABLY NOT. 
          BUT IF WE HAVE TO CRAFT THE AGREEMENT, SO IT'S NOT A TRANSIENT SERVICE, PERHAPS IT'S PART OF THEIR ORDER, THEIR, THEIR AGREEMENT THEY ALREADY HAVE WITH THE TOWN, PROVIDE FOR THE SENIOR SERVICES CENTER. 
          WE MODIFY THE AGREEMENT TO CORPORATE THAT LANGUAGE. 
          SO IT'S AN EXTENSION OF THAT SERVICE THEY WERE PROVIDE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          I GET IT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          NOW, UH, MARTY, YOU MIGHT WANNA DISCUSS THIS A LITTLE BIT. 
          SEAN CONLEY'S NOT WITH US. 
          WE HAD A MEETING ABOUT THIS, UH, A WEEK, EIGHT OR NINE DAYS AGO. 
          SO IT'S THE LED SIGN, RFP FOR THE TOWN BEACH FOR NEXT YEAR. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IMPROVING THE SIGNAGE AT HAMLET BEACH, UH, FOR PEOPLE PULLING IN, UH, AN LED SIGN. 
          I HAD ONE OF MY PART-TIME STAFF PUT TOGETHER AN RFP. 
          UH, WE'RE ASKING FOR PERMISSION TO PUT THAT OUT NOW. 
          UH, I ALSO TALKED WITH ROGER GIBSON ABOUT SOME OF HIS CONCERNS. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY WILL, UH, DOT OUR I'S AND CROSS OUR T'S, UH, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, PLACEMENT. 
          AND, AND THEN WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE DEC NOW TOO BECAUSE, UH, WE, WE INSTALLED A BENCH, UH, ON, ON ONE OF THE BANKS, AND THEN WE GOT A WARNING LETTER FROM THE DEC. 
          WE'RE SUPPOSED TO NOTIFY 'EM. 
          AND, AND IF THERE'S ANY EROSION, WE MIGHT HAVE TO TAKE THOSE BENCHES OUT. 
          SO ALL THESE FACTORS ARE KIND OF COMING INTO LAST MINUTE. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I OBVIOUSLY WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ON THIS, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DECIDE TO TABLE IT, BECAUSE WE HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COME UP, IT, IT'S NOT A PROBLEM. 
          WELL, IF WE GOT THE RFP OUT MM-HMM . 
          AND WE GOT A DEADLINE DATE FOR RECEIVING PROPOSALS, UM, WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT THE DIMENSIONS OF THE SIGN AND, UM, WHAT WILL BE ON THE DIGITAL DISPLAY. 
          I MEAN, IT'S GONNA BE THE REC AND B AND G DEPARTMENT TO DETERMINE WHERE TO PLACE 'EM. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO MAYBE IT DOESN'T IMPACT THE RFP, YOU KNOW. 
          WELL, I, I VERY, UM, UH, HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN GET IT OUT. 
          IF YOU THINK WE NEED TO WAIT, UM, THAT WOULD BE A BIG DEAL. 
          BUT IF YOU WANNA GET IT OUT, I THINK THAT'S, WELL, THAT'S GREAT. 
          AND THEN WE CAN GET ALL OF OUR QUE QUESTIONS ANSWERED BY THE DEC BY, UH, BILLING INSPECTION, AND THEN WE CAN, UH, ALL RIGHT. 
          WORK WITH WHOEVER RESPONDS TO THE RFP. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING IT RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE THE MOST RECENT, UH, PROBLEMS WITH THE DEC ON THE, UH, BENCH AND SO FORTH, THEY CLAIM THAT WE'RE ON THE EDGE OF THE CLIFF, WHICH IS PART OF THE SHORELINE EROSIONS AREA. 
          I MEAN, WE WE'RE ANTICIPATING PUTTING THE, THE MAIN SIDE, UH, 40 YARDS OR SO AWAY FROM THE ENTRANCE AT ROUTE FIVE ON THAT SIDE HILL. 
          ISN'T THAT WHAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT? THAT'S RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          IT SHOULDN'T AFFECT YOU WOULDN'T THINK, WOULD YOU? RIGHT. 
          YOU JUST WANT TO BE SURE. 
          ALRIGHT, WELL, I DON'T CARE. 
          UH, WE CAN ALWAYS PULL IT TOO, BECAUSE, UM, ALRIGHT. 
          I THINK THERE'S ALWAYS, AND IF IT'S NOT A DISCLAIMER IN THERE SAYING THAT WE, WE CAN CHOOSE NOT TO ACCEPT ANY OF THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, THAT'S, YEAH, THERE IS, IT'S A, A DISCRETION. 
          IF YOU DECIDED, UH, THE BOARD DECIDED THEY DIDN'T WANT, THEY DIDN'T LIKE 'EM, OR THEY CHANGED THEIR MIND, UH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO ACCEPT THE PROPOSALS. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO YOU FEEL OKAY TO GO THROUGH TONIGHT THEN? I'M GOOD WITH IT. 
          OKAY. 
          EVERYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          VIRTUAL SPORTS CONGRESS. 
          UH, CONGRESS. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO MR. SODA'S GONNA VIRTUALLY ATTEND. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING FOR. 
          YES. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          WITH ME. 
          NOW, MR. JEROME IS GONNA NOT VIRTUALLY ATTEND. 
          HE'S GONNA ATTEND AT NO FOX. 
          HE CAN'T, HE CAN'T TAKE NOTES 
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FOR MR. SODA . 
          WELL, MR. MR. JEROME IS GONNA RETIRE NEXT YEAR, SO, SO WE GOTTA HAVE TAKE OVER. 
          I GOT I ALRIGHT. 
          UH OH. 
          YEAH, THIS IS THE WATER. 
          THIS IS THE DOLLAR GENERAL. 
          UH, WELL, THESE DOLLAR GENERALS ARE POPPING UP EVERYWHERE. 
          UM, THERE'S ONE ON ST. 
          FRANCIS DRIVE, UH, AT BIGTREE, THE PROPOSING ONE THERE. 
          ALL RIGHT, WELL, WE GOTTA PAY THE FEE. 
          INSTALL THE NEXT ONE. 
          UH, THE CONTROLLER. 
          I, I, I'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CHIEF AND WITH DETECTIVE PAZ. 
          UH, I'VE ALSO HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE. 
          A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE STATE CONTROLLER WAS HERE ON FRIDAY TO DO WHAT IS CALLED A RISK ASSESSMENT. 
          UH, AND, UH, THE, UH, INDIVIDUAL FROM THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE, UH, SPENT A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME, A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME WITH, UH, DETECTIVE PAZ AND WITH, UH, FINANCE. 
          SO, UH, I'M REQUESTING THAT, UH, THE STATE CONTROLLER OR THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF POLICE, UH, CONDUCT A THOROUGH FORENSIC AUDIT OF OUR OPERATIONS. 
          IF THE RESOLUTION IS APPROVED, I WOULD TAKE A COPY OF THE RESOLUTION AND MAIL IT TO THE APPROPRIATE OFFICE AUDIT DIVISION OF THE CONTROLLER, AND THEN ALSO TO THE STATE POLICE. 
          AND WHATEVER EN ENTITY WANTED TO DO IT, I WOULD BRING BACK TO YOU THE PROPOSAL FROM EACH AND GO FROM THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          RESCHER AND LUC, UH, TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH DRESCHER AND MKI FOR THE BALANCE OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR, UH, WE HAVE TO TURN IN, WE HAVE TO COMPLETE AN AUDIT, UH, FINANCIAL AUDIT FOR DECEMBER 31ST, 2020. 
          WE ARE BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL. 
          THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE SOME TIME AGO. 
          AND LUKE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THIS IS DUE BY THE END OF THE MONTH OF THE FIRST NOVEMBER, I MEAN, PAST DUE. 
          YEAH, IT'S, IT, IT, YOUR CONTINUING DISCLOSURE I THINK EXPIRED SOMEWHERE IN SUMMER OR MAYBE SEPTEMBER. 
          UM, SO ALRIGHT. 
          AND OF COURT, IT'S DUE. 
          YEAH, IT'S, YEAH. 
          SO WE'VE ALSO GOT 2021 TO LOOK AT. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND A NUMBER OF OTHER, UH, SERVICES QUESTIONS HAVE COME UP ABOUT THE PAYMENT OF BILLS AND, UH, CERTAIN SYSTEMS THAT WERE ORDERED, UH, WITHOUT, WITHOUT, UH, BOARD RESOLUTION OR WITHOUT RFPS. 
          SO I, UH, I'M RECOMMENDING, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE A FINANCIAL DIRECTOR, I'M REPRESENT RECOMMENDING THAT WE RETAIN DRESHER MKI. 
          THEIR LETTER OF ENGAGEMENT IS HERE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW IT, BUT IN ANY EVENT, THAT'S THEIR LETTER OF ENGAGEMENT. 
          NOW WE HAVE, I THINK, UH, ALL THESE, WE HAVE, WE HAVE ABOUT 12 APPLICANTS WHO HAVE ALREADY FILED WITH US TO BE, FOR THE FINANCE DIRECTOR'S POSITION. 
          THE APPLICATION DEADLINE CLOSES ON THE 15TH OF NOVEMBER. 
          SO I WAS GONNA MAKE A RESOLUTION TO APPOINT A COMMITTEE OF THREE TO REVIEW THE CANDIDATES AND, UH, HAVE, UH, AN APPOINTMENT MADE MAYBE AT, SINCE, IF WE HAVE DRE LUCKY TILL THE END OF THE YEAR, MAKE AN APPOINTMENT AT THE REORGANIZATIONAL MEETING IN JANUARY. 
          'CAUSE THE CANDIDATE WILL HAVE TO WORK WITH THE NEW BOARD FOR A LOT LONGER TIME THAN HE OR SHE WILL WORK WITH THIS BOARD. 
          SO, THAT'S MY THINKING ON THAT. 
          ANY SUGGESTIONS, ANY DIFFERENCES OF OPINION? DID WE EVER, UM, GET THE, GET THE POSTING OUT ON, UM, WE TALKED ABOUT INDEED AND ALL OF THOSE PLATFORMS. SEE? YEAH, WE GOT, I, I BELIEVE SO. 
          YEAH. 
          I DIDN'T CHECK, BUT WE'VE GOT 12 SO FAR AND THE DEADLINE TO, UH, GOES TO NOVEMBER THE 15TH. 
          YEAH. 
          MY GUESS IS WE'LL HAVE SOMEWHERE IN THE MID TWENTIES, SO A LOT OF PEOPLE TO LOOK AT. 
          SOME OF YOU MAY BE ABLE TO ELIMINATE JUST ON THE RESUMES, BUT, UH, 
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UH, THERE'LL BE A FAIR NUMBER TO LOOK AT, SO, OKAY. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          BETH ETTE IS THERE, LET'S SEE, IS THAT GO WE ONE MORE AGO? OH YEAH. 
          UH, 25 IS YOURS AS A GATEWAY. 
          REVITALIZATION DESIGN CONSULTANT SELECTION. 
          24 24. 
          YEAH, I JUST DID 24, CORRECT? NO, I THINK IT'S HERE TWICE. 
          OH, WELL, LET SEE. 
          WE JUST HAD THE, UH, OH, I'M SORRY. 
          GENERAL, UH, YEAH. 
          UH, LET'S SEE. 
          THIS IS, IS THIS DIFFERENT? OR IT'S THE SAME ONE? I THINK IT'S THE SAME ONE. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK, OH, THIS IS SOUTH. 
          THE FIRST ONES FOR DOLLAR GENERAL. 
          MM-HMM. 
          YEAH. 
          HUH. 
          YEAH, THIS IS THE SAME THING. 
          RIGHT? LET SEE. 
          40, 30. 
          SO HANG ON, GO BACKWARDS. 
          WE JUST WENT THROUGH, YOU WERE SAYING DOLLAR 21, RIGHT? 21. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YEAH, BUT IT, WELL, THERE, THIS, THE ONE AT WAS SOUTHWESTERN, THE EARLIER ONE, THERE'S SUPPOSEDLY ONE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          IT'S GOT THE SAME AT ST. 
          FRANCIS, ABOUT 40, 30 SOUTHWESTERN BULLET. 
          SO THIS IS A DUPLICATION, I GUESS THE WORD EXTRA STUFF. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO WE CAN MOVE TO STRIKE NUMBER 24. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, FAIR ENOUGH. 
          UH, NUMBER 25 THEN. 
          THAT'S THE GATEWAY REVITALIZATION DESIGN CONSULTANT. 
          YES. 
          THAT'S FOR THE, THE GRANT THAT WE RECEIVED FROM WILSON FOUNDATION. 
          THIS IS THE AWARD. 
          UM, DIDN'T HAVE, UH, TWO COMPANIES THAT RESPONDED TO THE RFP AND THIS WOULD BE AWARDED THAT R FRP. 
          OKAY. 
          NOW LEMME ASK YOU THIS MM-HMM . 
          WHO? UH OH, I SEE. 
          IT'S 55 THOU 50,000. 
          MM-HMM. 
          NOW THAT WAS THE GRANT. 
          THAT'S THE GRANT. 
          TOTAL GRANT, YEAH. 
          NOW BECG MONITORS, THE GRANT MANAGES ITS PROGRESSION. 
          DID THEY GET A FEE FOR THIS PARTICULAR GRANT FOR MANAGERIAL SERVICES OR NO, THEY GET THAT THROUGH THE TOWN THROUGH, UH, SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY DO FOR US FOR OTHER MANAGEMENT, I DON'T, UM, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          WHETHER THEY'RE PULLING FROM, WE'VE GOT A CON WE'VE GOT A CONTRACT WITH THEM THAT IS GONNA BE UP FOR DISCUSSION IN THE BUDGET FOR THE COMING YEAR. 
          MM-HMM. 
          AND I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT IS FIXED AT 31,000. 
          AND THE CONTRACT TALKS ABOUT SO MUCH AN HOUR WITH A CAP OF 31 K. 
          AND THAT IS FOR GRANT SE SECURING GRANTS. 
          NOW, WHEN YOU GET INTO THE MANAGEMENT OF GRANTS, IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT KETTLE OF FISH. 
          MM-HMM. 
          SO WHO PAYS 'EM FOR THAT? SOME HE GETS PAID. 
          I THINK SOME HE DOESN'T GET PAID. 
          RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW THE STORY ON THIS ONE, THIS PARTICULAR ONE. 
          I CAN CHECK WITH HIM. 
          I'LL TEXT, SEE IF I CAN GET AN ANSWER BEFORE THE, BECAUSE, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE GRANT, UH, FOR THE MARINA FEASIBILITY STUDY BUILT INTO THE GRANT WAS A $12,000 FEE. 
          AND I'M NOT SURE WHETHER WE PAID A PORTION OF THAT AND, UH, THE STATE PAID THE REST. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          I DON'T THINK SO. 
          NOT ON THAT ONE. 
          YOU DON'T THINK WE PAID ANYTHING? I DON'T THINK WE PAID ANYTHING ON THAT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WELL, YOU MAY BE RIGHT. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT I'LL DOUBLE CHECK. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S COMING FROM THAT 50. 
          JIM, I HAD A QUESTION ON THIS. 
          YES, SIR. 
          LAST PARAGRAPH FOR THIS RESOLUTION SAYS THAT TOWN HAM WILL COMMIT TO THE DEVELOPMENT, FULL IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PROJECT. 
          AND THERE'S NO PRICE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THESE CONSULTANTS ARE GOING TO RECOMMEND, AND I'M SURE IT'LL BE A WORTHWHILE, WORTHWHILE PROJECT, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW EXPENSIVE THAT'LL BE. 
          SEE THE TOWN COMMIT TO A BLANK CHECK. 
          YEAH. 
          NO, THAT'LL COME BACK TO THE BOARD. 
          WELL, LET'S, LET'S MAKE SURE IT DOES THEN, UH, UPON BOARD, YEAH. 
          APPROVAL, YEAH. 
          BEING PRETTY RESULT OF TOWN AND HAMMER WILL COMMIT UPON SUBSEQUENT BOARD APPROVAL. 
          HOW'S THAT? MM-HMM. 
          AMENDED TO SAY THAT ON SUBSEQUENT BOARD APPROVAL. 
          THANKS, LAURA. 
          BOARD APPROVAL TO THE DEVELOPMENT IMPLEMENTATION. 
          OKAY. 
          FAIR ENOUGH. 
          UH, THE LAST ONE IS THE INCENTIVE ZONING THING THAT GOT ON LATE. 
          UH, THERE, THERE'S A PIER ONE STORE, UH, ON THE PERIPHERY OF MCKINLEY MALL. 
          THE PIER ONE, UH, DEPARTMENT STORE, STANDALONE BUILDING AND PIER ONE, OF COURSE, UH, WHEN KAPUT. 
          SO, UH, THIS PARTICULAR COMPANY, UH, APPEALED TO US UNDER THE INCENTIVE ZONING TO REMODEL A BUILDING AND, UH, CONSTRUCT A AUTOMOBILE SALES SHOWROOM LIKE A CARVANA. 
          OTHER WORDS, YOU, IF YOU WANT, THEY WOULD HAVE AN INVENTORY OF CARS. 
          YOU COULD 
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COME DOWN TO THEIR STATIONS AND GET ONLINE OR NETWORK FROM YOUR HOME PC TO PICK OUT A CAR YOU LIKE, NEGOTIATE THE DEAL ONLINE AND PLACE YOUR ORDER. 
          AND THEY BRING THE CAR TO THIS PARTICULAR SITE. 
          YOU DO THE INSPECTION AND PICK IT UP. 
          SO IT'S A RATHER NEAT, UH, CONCEPT. 
          SO WE HAVE TO, UNDER THE INCENTIVE ZONING LAW, WE HAVE TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE PLANNING BOARD SHOULD REVIEW THE INCENTIVES AND WHETHER THIS PROJECT IS WORTHY OF CONSIDERATION. 
          IT'S A FIRST STEP IN THE PROCESS, IS A REFERRAL TO THE BOARD PLANNING BOARD. 
          SO I WOULD THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE MIGHT WANNA REFER TO. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE SCOOP ON THE AGENDA, I GUESS. 
          JIM, I'VE GOT A LATE RESOLUTION TO, UH, SUBMIT A LATE RESOLUTION. 
          I GUESS IT IS. 
          THIS HAS TO DO WITH, UM, UH, ROAD BOND COPY IS, UH, IS SEAN HERE OR NO? SO THIS IS, UH, ROAD BOND. 
          JIM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ IT OR WOULD YOU LIKE MY MYSELF? NO, I DON'T. 
          WE WE CAN READ IT. 
          WE'RE READING IT NOW. 
          I THINK WE'RE READING IT NOW. 
          WELL, HANG ON. 
          LET, SHALL WE READ IT, UH, FOR THE PUBLIC? UH, NO. 
          I'LL, UH, WE CAN, WE CAN READ IT. 
          WE'LL HAVE SOME DISCUSSION NOW. 
          WHAT YOU'RE ASKING US TO DO AND RESOLVE IS THAT THE TOWN BOARD WILL BEGIN THE PROCESS FOR THE SECURING OF BONDS, BEGIN THE PROCESS FOR THE SECURING OF BONDS TO ADDRESS THE REMAINING POOR AND FAIR ROADS, TO PUT THE TOWN ON THE PATH OF MAINTAINING ITS INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          SO THE INTEREST OF, OF, OF, WELL, TED, I'M RUNNING THE MEETING. 
          DO YOU MIND? PARDON ME? INTEREST TED, PLEASE OPEN TRANSPARENCY FOR THE RESIDENTS OF HAMBURGERS. 
          YEAH, I ASK THAT YOU READ THE ENTIRE . 
          I'M GONNA GET TO IT, TED. 
          LET ME GET LET ME JUST THINK IT THROUGH HERE. 
          THIS IS SOMETHING YOU DROP ON US FIVE MINUTES BEFORE THE MEETING. 
          I KNOW WE'VE GOT A DEADLINE AT THURSDAY. 
          YOU CAN'T DO THAT. 
          YOU CAN'T MEET THE DEADLINE. 
          IT'S BEEN THREE YEARS. 
          SO IT'S NOT NO, NO, TED, YOU GOTTA FILE THE RESOLUTIONS LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE DOES. 
          SO INFRASTRUCTURE RATHER THAN FOR WELL, OKAY. 
          UH, I'LL READ THE WHOLE THING SO EVERYBODY CAN APPRECIATE WHAT THIS IS. 
          WHEREAS THE HAMBURG HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT HAD TWO INDEPENDENT ROAD CONDITION ASSESSMENTS CONDUCTED IN 2018 THAT IDENTIFIED 60 MILES OF ROADS IN POOR CONDITION AND ANOTHER 62 MILES OF ROAD IN FAIR CONDITION. 
          WHEREAS THE CURRENT HIGHWAY BUDGET IS INSUFFICIENT TO ADDRESS ALL THESE ROADS. 
          WHEREAS THE HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENT DECLARED THE EMERGENCY THAT AND NUMEROUS TIMES SINCE, WHEREAS, THE CONTINUED DELAY OF THE PROPER CARE OF THE TOWN'S MOST VALUABLE ASSET WILL ONLY SERVICE TO COST TAXPAYERS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE MONEY. 
          WHEREAS THE HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENT IN 2020 REQUESTED 6.2 MILLION AND BONDS TO ADDRESS ALL OF THESE ROADS WITH NO INCREASE IN TAXES DUE TO BOND RATES AT 0.07%. 
          WHEREAS THE BOARD CHOSE TO BOND 302,000 FOR ROADS AND 400,000 FOR TOWN PARKING LOTS. 
          AND WHEREAS THE TOWN BOARD SAID PUBLICLY THAT THEY WOULD OR REVISIT THE BONDING TO PROPERLY ADDRESS ALL OF THE POOR AND RARE FAIR ROADS, THE TIME IS NOW TO ADDRESS THE SAID ROADS WITHOUT FURTHER DELAY. 
          NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD WILL IMMEDIATELY BEGIN THE PROCESS FOR THE SECURING OF BONDS TO ADDRESS THE REMAINING POOR AND FAIR ROADS, TO PUT THE TOWN ON A PATH OF MAINTAINING ITS INFRASTRUCTURE RATHER THAN, UH, THE FAR MORE COSTLY OPTION OF RECONSTRUCTION FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE HAMBURG RESIDENTS. 
          WELL, OKAY. 
          I'VE JUST READ IT ALL. 
          SO, UH, MY TAKE ON IT IS SIMPLY THIS ONE. 
          THIS IS A MAJOR PROPOSITION 
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TWO, YOUR FIRST, WHEREAS YOU SAY ROAD CONDITIONS WERE ASSESSED IN 2018, I THINK THE REPORT WAS WRITTEN IN 2018, BUT IT PERTAINED TO THE CONDITION OF ROADS IN 20 17, 4 YEARS AGO. 
          THE HIGHWAY BUDGET, THAT'S INCORRECT. 
          THE STUDY WAS 2018 TWO, IT WAS CONDUCTED IN 2000, BUT I THOUGHT IT REFLECTED 2017. 
          NO, NO, I TURNED 18. 
          LET'S ASSUME IT'S THREE YEARS OLD AS OPPOSED TO FOUR. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THE CURRENT HIGHWAY BUDGET IS INSUFFICIENT TO ADDRESS ALL OF THESE ROADS. 
          WELL, THAT'S OBVIOUS. 
          THAT'S FOR SURE. 
          WE DON'T HAVE A BUDGET TO ADDRESS EVERY ROAD IN THE TOWN. 
          THERE ARE, WHAT, 350 LANE MILES? 23 3, HUH? 320 LANE MILES. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, THE HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENT DECLARED AN EMERGENCY. 
          OH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT CONSTITUTES AN EMERGENCY, BUT ANYWAY, YOU MAY HAVE DECLARED IT. 
          WHATEVER EFFECT THAT HAS, I'M NOT SURE. 
          UH, THE CONTINUED PROP DELAY OF THE PRO OF THE CARE OF THE ROADS WILL ONLY COST TAXPAYERS MORE MONEY. 
          THAT MAY BE TRUE. 
          UH, THE BOND RATE, IT WASN'T, I DON'T THINK, 0.7. 
          IT WAS CLOSE. 
          IT WAS 0.12, I THINK. 
          BUT ANYWAY, UH, AND, UH, WE HAVE THROUGH TOWN APPROPRIATIONS AND PAID NEW YORK AND THE EXTREME WEATHER FUND AND CHIPS, WE HAVE DONE A FAIR AMOUNT, UH, FOR PAVING MORE IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS THAN THE OTHER FOUR YEARS SEGMENT THAT I CAN REMEMBER. 
          I, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS WITHOUT A LOT OF STUDY, TED, AND A LOT OF UPDATING TO THE INFORMATION. 
          THIS IS NOT SOMETHING TO DROP ON US, UH, AT THE LAST MINUTE. 
          THIS IS A, A $6.5 MILLION, $6.2 MILLION PROPOSITION. 
          SO THAT'S MY OPINION. 
          THE BOARD MEMBERS CAN SHARE THEIR OPINION. 
          I DON'T CARE. 
          NOT WITHSTANDING THE FACT THAT IT'S PRETTY LATE, BUT YEAH, I GUESS MY CONCERNS WOULD BE HAVING THIS LAST MINUTE UNDER THE IDEA THAT IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, AN EMERGENCY WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH, UH, THE BOND DISCUSSIONS, I KNOW THERE WAS SOME DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THE TWO STUDIES AS FAR AS THE RATINGS BETWEEN POOR CONDITION AND FAIR CONDITION THAT WE REALLY NEVER GOT CLARIFIED. 
          UM, I KNOW THE ASPHALT PLANTS ARE CLOSED RIGHT NOW, SO I THINK IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WORTH DISCUSSING AT ANOTHER TIME. 
          BUT AS FAR AS MAKING A DECISION ON A REQUEST THAT CAME OUT OF NOWHERE AT THIS TIME, I, I JUST DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE INFORMATION TO MAKE THAT DECISION. 
           WELL, LEMME ASK ANOTHER BOARD MEMBERS. 
          GO AHEAD, FOLKS. 
          WELL, WELL, WE WERE GOING THROUGH THIS DURING THE BOTTOM RESOLUTION, YOU KNOW, THE, THE TOPIC BASICALLY WAS TO TAKE HIS BUDGET AND USE THE MONEY FROM THAT TO PAY THIS MM-HMM . 
          AND IT NEVER, NEVER WENT ANYWHERE. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          YEAH. 
          MM-HMM. 
          SO, I, AS A REMINDER TO, TO ALL, ALL HERE, YOU KNOW, WE PUT TOGETHER A 180 PAGE DOCUMENT WITH ALL OF THE NUMBERS ASSOCIATED WITH, AS YOU POINTED OUT, LIKE PAYING FOR THE BOND BECAUSE THE RATES WERE AT AN ALL TIME LOW WITH EXISTING TAX DOLLARS, HIGHER TAX DOLLARS. 
          SO NO INCREASE IN TAXES, UH, FOR HAMMERED RESIDENTS. 
          UM, I ASSUME YOU STILL HAVE, UH, THAT DOCUMENT 180 DOCUMENT AND, UH, IN SHORT OF JUMPING UP ON A ROOF TO, UH, SCREAM, UH, THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. 
          AND IT REALLY IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE TOWN THAT WE GET INTO THE MAINTENANCE MODE. 
          I'VE USED THE ANALOGY A NUMBER OF TIMES THAT WE ALL CHANGE THE OIL IN OUR VEHICLES, 30 BUCKS, WHATEVER, EVERY COUPLE OF MONTHS WE DO THAT BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THE VEHICLE WILL LAST LONGER, SERVE US BETTER, AND ULTIMATELY COST US LESS MONEY. 
          WE'VE BEEN IN THE ENGINE CHANGE BUSINESS AS IT RELATES, AS I POINTED OUT, THE TOWN'S MOST VALUABLE ASSET'S, INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          WE NEED TO GET INTO THAT OIL CHANGE BUSINESS, GET US INTO THE MAINTENANCE MODE. 
          AND THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT IS TO GET THE LEVEL SET, THE POOR AND FAIR ROADS. 
          AND THAT WILL ALLOW US THEN TO AGGRESSIVELY FULLY IMPLEMENT OUR MAINTENANCE INITIATIVE AND FUNDAMENTAL PREMISE. 
          KEEP GOOD ROADS GOOD FOR AS LONG AS YOU CAN, AND YOU CAN APPLY THAT REALLY TO ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT. 
          BE IT A CAR OR A ROOF, A PAIR OF SHOES, UH, THE INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          IT'S THE SAME PREMISE. 
          AND, UM, SO I WANT TO PUT THIS OUT HERE. 
          NOW, UH, APOLOGIES FOR BEING LATE, BUT I WANNA KEEP IT IN FRONT OF YOU. 
          WE HAD TALKED TO PREVIOUSLY, UH, ABOUT DOING THIS, AND, UH, UH, I DON'T HAVE THOSE KIND OF GLASSED ON, UH, UH, UH, I MIGHT BE AN IDEALIST, BUT, UH, THE GAP BETWEEN 
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WHAT WAS GIVEN TO THE HIRING DEPARTMENT, 300,000 AND MY MATHEMATICALLY OBJECTIVE CALCULATED $6.2 MILLION. 
          THERE'S A WIDE DISPARITY BETWEEN THE TWO. 
          AND ULTIMATELY, I'M THE ONE THAT GETS THE PHONE CALLS FROM HAMBURG RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, AND IT WASN'T BY COINCIDENCE. 
          I'M NOT TRYING TO TAKE THAT A JAB AT THE BOARD BY INCLUDING THE AMOUNT THAT WENT TO PARKING LOTS, BUT THE REALITY IS THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. 
          AND, AND I'VE SHARED THAT WITH EVERY RESIDENT, AND THERE'S NOT BEEN A RESIDENT YET THAT HAS SAID THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA. 
          WHAT THEY'VE SAID IS WHY, AND I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER. 
          OKAY. 
          THE REALITY IS WE NEED TO SPEND, WE NEED TO SPEND THIS MONEY TO GET OUR INFRASTRUCTURE SO THAT ULTIMATELY MAINTENANCE COSTS FAR LESS. 
          AND WHEN COSTS FAR LESS, AS A RESULT, IT HAS A LESS IMPACT ON THE TAXPAYERS OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG. 
          OKAY. 
          TED, REFRESH MY MEMORY. 
          WHEN WE LOOKED AT YOUR A HUNDRED AND SOME ODD PAGE, UH, UH, PROPOSAL IN ANTICIPATION OF GOING OUT TO THE BOND MARKET, WAS THAT IN THE SUMMER? WAS IT NOT IN AUGUST OF 2020 LAST YEAR? YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, A LOT OF US HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THAT STUDY SINCE AUGUST OF 2020. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO MIKE, PETRI, WHAT'S YOUR POSITION ON THIS? UH, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE, HAVE A DISCUSSION. 
          THE BOARD HAS TO DECIDE, YOU KNOW, DO WE WANNA BOND MONEY OUT AND TAKE IT OUT OF THIS YEARLY FORM? I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT TO THIS. 
          THERE A LOT TO IT. 
          IT JUST NEVER WENT ANYWHERE. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, THE, BUT THE, THE RESOLUTION, THE LATE RESOLUTION THAT TED WANTS YOU TO ADOPT IS TO GET THE PROCESS. 
          DO IT RIGHT NOW, UH, YOU HAVE THE RESOLUTION IN FRONT OF IT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          NO, WHAT'S YOUR POSITION, BETH? I, THE SAME AS MIKE AND AS WHAT KAREN ALLUDED TO, I THINK WE NEED INFORMATION TO GO FORWARD. 
          I THINK WHEN WE HAD THE DISCUSSION THE LAST TIME, WE SAID THAT IT WARRANTED, REVISITING IT IN THE FUTURE. 
          AND I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT STILL WARNS US TO REVISIT FOR HOW WE'RE GOING TO BEST ADDRESS THE SITUATION. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, I, I, LISTEN, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO TAKING A LOOK AT IT DOWN THE ROAD TO SEE WHAT, NO PUN INTENDED TO SEE WHAT WE CAN, SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T DO. 
          IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE CAN DO TONIGHT, IN MY OPINION. 
          SO IF I'M READING YOUR MINDS OR READING YOUR COMMUNICATIONS CORRECTLY, YOUR POSITION IS TO STUDY THE MATTER BUT NOT ENTERTAIN THE RESOLUTION TONIGHT. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? YES OR NO? YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          WE CAN'T CAN'T WITH IT UNTIL WE GET EVERYBODY TO REALLY GET INTO IT IF YOU WANT GO DOWN THAT PATH OR NOT, BECAUSE IT'S TAKEN AWAY FROM THAT. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          IT NEEDS A LOT MORE STUDY, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE MORE COLLABORATIVE CONVERSATION. 
          WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THIS SINCE. 
          AND, AND THIS IS THE FIRST THAT IT'S BEING REVISITED SINCE 15 MONTHS AGO. 
          AND I DON'T THINK IT'S A QUESTION OF, I THINK WE ALL VALUE THE INTEGRITY OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION, BUT IT'S THE PROCESS ON HOW TO GET THERE. 
          UM, AND THIS IS JUST THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. 
          SO WE KNOW HOW, HOW MUCH WOULD WE BOND, HOW WOULD WE LEVERAGE THAT AGAINST THE, YOU KNOW, HIS BUDGET, ET CETERA. 
          YEAH. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          AND ALSO THE POSSIBILITY OF BEING SOME FORM OF AN UPDATE TO THAT STUDY PROBABLY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          HAVING SAID THAT, THEN, UH, WHY DON'T WE, WE GOT TILL SEVEN O'CLOCK. 
          UH, WE'LL GO BACK TO THE BUDGET. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE TIME. 
          QUITE ALRIGHT, TED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, LET'S GO BACK TO THE BUDGET. 
          I GUESS GUYS, WE'LL DO SOME WORK WHILE WE'RE HERE. 
          UH, LET'S SEE. 
          UH, OPEN UP THE DOOR. 
          OH, OF COURSE. 
          YEAH, YEAH, SURE, SURE. 
          I GOT ONE. 
          MY, MY OWN. 
          KIM, DO YOU HAVE AN EXTRA BINDER? THE, YES, THAT'S, WE'RE RIGHT AT THE TOWN OUTSIDE FELLOW RIGHT AFTER PAGE 35. 
          SO IT'S EITHER 36 OR EVEN DEPARTMENT. 
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THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH EVERYBODY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WELL, I GUESS WE GET INTO THE FIRST THING ON TOWN OUTSIDE OF VILLAGE VILLAGES IS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, RIGHT? THAT'S AT PAGE 37. 
          ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS THERE IS THE PERSONAL SERVICES OTHER, IT GOES WAY DOWN AS YOU CAN SEE, 170,429. 
          IN, IN 2021. 
          WE HAD SIX RETIREMENTS. 
          UH, SIX OFFICERS, NINE HOW MANY? 9, 9, 9, 12 OVER THE PAST 18 MONTHS AND NINE FOR THIS YEAR. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYWAY, THIS CHIEF INFORMED ME. 
          THIS FIGURE REPRESENTED, UH, PAYOUTS FOR APPROVALS. 
          THEN YOU'VE GOT NEW OFFICERS TAKING THE OLD OFFICERS POSITIONS AND THEY'RE STARTING OUT AT A MUCH LOWER GRADE THEN SOME OF THE SENIOR RETIREES. 
          SO THAT GOES UP TO LINE 0.011. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE DISTINCTION THERE IS ABOUT TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY FOUR, TWO HUNDRED THIRTY $5,000, 2 36 2 9 2. 
          IF YOU ADD IN THE, UH, PART-TIME DIFFERENTIAL. 
          SO THAT'S ESSENTIALLY IT. 
          THERE WAS EVIDENTLY, UH, A MISTAKE MADE. 
          UM, I, UM, GO AHEAD. 
          YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS, DON'T YOU? YEAH, SO THE, UM, THE FIRST LINE PERSONAL SERVICES, THE DEPARTMENT REQUEST OF 6.2, UM, WAS ACTUALLY INCORRECT. 
          IT WAS BASED ON SOME PREVIOUS BUDGET DOCUMENTS THAT HAD, UM, EMPLOYEE SALARIES THAT WEREN'T IN THERE. 
          SO THE CHIEF SAID THE ACTUAL REQUEST WOULD'VE BEEN 5,000,847 OR $847,227. 
          SO, WHOA, WHOA. 
          SAY IT AGAIN. 
          5 8 4 7 2 2 7 2 2 7. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, SO IT'S PRETTY MUCH IN LINE. 
          THAT'S WHY THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A DISPARITY THERE. 
          I SEE. 
          OUTSIDE OF THE CELL BACKS. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          SO ONCE THEY TOOK THOSE, THOSE TWO LINES OUT, THAT'S WHAT THEY, THESE WERE EMPLOYEES THAT NO LONGER HERE? THERE WERE, YES. 
          LIKE I KNOW, UH, CAPTAIN FLOOD WAS ONE OF 'EM. 
          THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE IN THERE. 
          UM, SO HE SAID THAT NUMBER SHOULD ACTUALLY BE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AS I GOTCHA. 
          THE NEW BUDGET. 
          ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO KICK AROUND ON THIS ONE? HE'S THE CHIEF TO, I IMAGINE HE'LL IN AT SEVEN, I ASSUME, BUT I, HE'S NOT HERE AT ALL. 
          I SUPPOSE DOES THIS REFLECT EVERYTHING THAT THE GOALS HE HAD FOR THIS YEAR? YEAH, I MET WITH HIM ON FRIDAY AND TALKED TO HIM FOR A WHILE. 
          I THINK IT DEFINITELY MET THE GOALS THAT HE HAD. 
          UM, ONE OF THE SIGNIFICANT THINGS I MET WITH, UH, CAPTAIN AV AND CHIEF TRASK IS, UM, THE REINSTATEMENT OF SOME OF THEIR SEMINARS AND DEPARTMENT TRAINING. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE IMPACTED BY COVID, I GUESS IN PREVIOUSLY YEARS. 
          THEY HAD HAD ABOUT 15,000. 
          SO THEY'RE GETTING THAT, YOU KNOW, RESTORED, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE HOPING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITIES, UH, TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. 
          UM, I THINK EVERYTHING ELSE, HE DID NOT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS REGARDING, UM, I'LL LET HIM FOLLOW UP WHEN HE GETS HERE, BUT THE ONLY, THE ONLY DISCREPANCY WE HAD WAS IN THAT REQUEST AND THEN WE GOT THE RIGHT. 
          SO THIS REFLECTS EVERYTHING HE NEEDS IN TERMS OF ANTICIPATION OF, OF, UM, YES. 
          FURTHER RETIREMENTS, ET CETERA. 
          WELL, A BIG PART OF THAT CONVERSATION WAS, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE SAID, THAT WHOLE, THE PERSONAL SERVICES, OTHER IS ALL THE SELL BACKS. 
          AND YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR THEY SAW A 
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HUGE INCREASE, BUT HE SAID THAT IN PAST YEARS THEY PROBABLY AVERAGES AT LIKE TWO. 
          AND YOU DON'T KNOW, YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH SICK TIME SOMEBODY IS IS SO BAD. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, SO IT'S KIND OF JUST, UH, AND YOU CAN'T ANTICIPATE. 
          HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE'S GONNA NEED FOR NEXT YEAR DEPENDING ON WHO'S GONNA RETIRE. 
          UM, BUT HE WAS, HE WAS COMFORTABLE WITH WHERE THINGS WERE AT WITH THAT. 
          THEY WERE GONNA GET SOME MORE INFORMATION TOGETHER TO SEE HOW THEY WERE IMPACTED WITH LAST YEAR'S RETIREMENTS AND KIND OF WITH THE HISTORICAL TREND IT BEEN MM-HMM . 
          UP TO THEN. 
          UM, BUT HE ANTICIPATED IT WASN'T GOING TO BE AS MUCH NEXT YEAR. 
          AS FAR AS RETIREMENTS, I WOULD SAY THREE THINGS JUST BASED ON ELIGIBILITY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          UH, THREE, THREE THINGS THAT I WANNA TELL YOU, UH, IN, IN REALITY, IF WE WERE EVER GONNA PUT ON WERE POLICE OFFICERS THAN THE 62. 
          IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, WE NEED TO DO WITH HAMBURG CENTRAL, WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH FRONTIER CENTRAL. 
          WE HAVE A POLICE OFFICER DEDICATED TO THE SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL AND FRONTIER PAYS HALF OF THE SALARY FRINGE BENEFITS AND SO ON. 
          THAT POLICE OFFICER NETWORKS WITH KIDS BUILT, BUILT UP A RAPPORT. 
          AND IT IS A REALLY VALUABLE PIECE OF POLICE WORK FOR INFORMATION GATHERING, FOR STOPPING TROUBLES BEFORE THEY RUSH THEM OUTTA CONTROL. 
          THERE SHOULD BE ESPECIALLY TRAINED OFFICERS FOR THE HAMBURG CENTRAL SCHOOL SYSTEM TOO, WHO MAY BE ABLE TO GET THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURG TO COME IN FOR A PERCENTAGE. 
          HAMBURG CENTRAL AND OUR, UH, TOWN GOVERNMENT. 
          UH, SECONDLY, JOE O'BRIEN REALLY BELONGS IN THIS BUDGET AND NOT BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S DOESN'T MAKE MUCH SENSE TO KEEP HIM THERE. 
          HE IS PERFORMING QUASI POLICE WORK AT THE BEACH BY ISSUING TICKETS. 
          THIRDLY, WE GOTTA DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS AND IT'S NOT EASY, BUT WE GOT 62 POLICE OFFICERS AND WE GOT TWO WOMEN. 
          THAT'S NO GOOD ONE IN THE ACADEMY TOO, DON'T WE? WE DO. 
          YEAH. 
          AND ACTUALLY WE HAVE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH SOME, SOME INITIATIVES THAT THE CHIEF WANTS TO KIND OF ATE ON. 
          WE GOTTA, WE GOTTA REACH, UH, THIS IS NOT THE 1950S. 
          WE GOTTA GET, UH, WE GOTTA GET MORE BALANCE, GENDER BALANCE IN THAT DEPARTMENT. 
          TWO OUTTA 62 AT A RATIO OF 30 TO ONE IS, IS PRETTY BAD. 
          DON'T WE HAVE TO KIND OF REALLY HIRE OFF THE LIST THOUGH? TRUE. 
          WELL THAT'S, AND THAT'S THE CONVERSATION WE'VE HAD. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THE NATIONAL AVERAGE IS 12%, HOWEVER, THE LIST IS THE LIST AND WE CAN ONLY HIRE FROM PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN TOWN OF HAMBURG. 
          AND WE'VE SEEN THE LIST, UM, AND LOOK THE TOP QUALIFIED CANDIDATES. 
          BUT I THINK THE EFFORTS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED IS MORE JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO CONSIDER IT FOR, FOR LINE WORK. 
          BUT YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          THE LIST. 
          THE LIST IS THE LIST. 
          UM, AND WE ALSO DISCUSSED THE, THE SROS, THE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS. 
          AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS, YOU KNOW, HAMBURG SCHOOLS, THAT'S A DECISION THAT'S MADE BY THE VILLAGE POLICE. 
          BUT IN THE CONVERSATION WITH THE CHIEF, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT MAYBE IN THE FUTURE THERE'D BE BENEFIT TO FRONTIER MIDDLE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IN ADDITION TO THAT'S RIGHT. 
          FRONTIER, FRONTIER MIDDLE IS HIGH KNOW ALSO, IT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER THE, IS THERE, IS THERE A TEST COMING OUT ANYTIME SOON? TEST ISN'T COMING OUT TILL NEXT YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO THAT'S WHY HE AND I HAVE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS ON WHAT SORT OF, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY OUTREACH SORT OF THING. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, 'CAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, THE LIST IS THE LIST, BUT WE WANNA ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THE TEST. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND MAYBE, MAYBE THERE ARE SOME MORE FEMALE CANDIDATES IN, IN COMING YEARS ON THERE. 
          ALRIGHT, WELL I'LL TELL YOU, I I, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          I, I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE COULD DO ABOUT IT, BUT IF THE NATIONAL AVERAGE IS 12% OF LEAST FORCES ARE, ARE FEMALE, UH, WE'VE GOT, UH, 0.1% OR SOMETHING HERE. 
          AND I KNOW IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT ALSO, WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE OF COLOR. 
          WE'RE LILY WHITE AND THAT'S NOT SO GOOD EITHER. 
          SO ANYWAY, JUST THE, JUST THE, THE THOUGHTS. 
          UH, BUT OUR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER IN HAMBURG AND MAYBE THE MIDDLE SCHOOL IS SOMETHING THAT REALLY, I, I THINK WE HAVE, WE GET GREAT MILEAGE OUT OF WHAT WE DO WITH THE SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL. 
          SO MAYBE NEXT YEAR WE CAN CONSIDER THAT. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS LADIES AND JETS? UH, ZONING BOARD? UH, NOT MUCH THERE. 
          THAT'S THE SAME, SAME SHTICK, UH, PLANNING BOARD, SAME GIG NOW ON THE ZONING BOARD. 
          UH, SARAH DE JARAN WAS NOT GONNA PERFORM THE FUNCTIONS OF, UH, UH, SOME OF THE SECRETARIAL LIKE FUNCTIONS, BUT SHE'S AGREED TO GO TO CONTINUE DOING IT, UH, RATHER THAN HAVE US TRY TO FUMBLE AROUND TO GET SOMEBODY ELSE TO DO IT. 
          SO THAT STAYS AS IT IS. 
          UH, THERE WAS TALK ABOUT THAT NOT GOING THE REFUSE COLLECTION THAT IS, 
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UH, 81 60, UH, KIM, WHAT, WHAT WAS OUR THINKING ON THAT? UH, SPRING AND FALL PICKUP WHERE WE GOT 180 5 5, UH, AND, UM, THE SUPERINTENDENT GOT, UH, 2 25. 
          WELL, I'VE EMAILED CINDY JUST TO GET SOME INFORMATION ON IT, BUT SHE EMAILED BACK AFTER WE ALREADY SUBMITTED OUR BUDGET. 
          THEY SAID, UM, THAT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE REBID NEXT YEAR AND IT'S EXPECTED TO INCREASE. 
          SO THAT'S WHY THEY DID THE 2 25. 
          BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION AT THE TIME. 
          YEAH, OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          I, MY SUGGESTION IS LEAVE IT FOR NOW, IF THE BOARD WANTS TO CHANGE IT, THEY CAN DO THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN WE GET INTO THE, UH, EMPLOYEE BENEFITS. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT? UH, SO ANYTHING ON PAGE 39 THEN? OKAY. 
          OH, YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M SORRY. 
          BACK TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND I, AND I THINK CHIEF TR HAD SENT US, THERE WAS, THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR, FOR AN INCREASE THERE FOR, UM, YEAH. 
          OH YEAH. 
          SORRY, I'M DRAWING A BLANK THERE. 
          SO MAYBE HE CAN SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THAT. 
          I REACHED, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WAS ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE, SHE, YEAH, SHE, UH, CAME OVER FROM, UH, FROM PERSONNEL. 
          SHE WAS WORKING OVER THERE UNDER, UH, ALYSSA STR AND THEN, UH, UH, THE CHIEF POACHED HER AND AWAY SHE WENT. 
          UM, WELL, ALRIGHT. 
          YEAH, I DON'T SEE WHAT HE'S GOTTA SAY. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. 
          SHOULD WE GO TO THE HIGHWAY FUND THEN? EVERYBODY ALRIGHT? MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WE GET, UH, IN TERMS OF, UH, UH, HIGHWAY FUNDS, UH, THE CONSOLIDATED HIGHWAY APPROVAL PROGRAM, UH, IS I THINK STILL, I THINK IT IS 352,000 UP FROM 2 74 PAVED NEW YORK IS UP 32,000. 
          I MEAN, THIS IS TERRIFIC FOR THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT. 
          UH, AND EXTREME WINTER RECOVERY IS UP 27,000. 
          CHRIS, HELL TOLD ME THAT, UH, UH, MR. CASEY MISSED THE DEADLINE FOR MAKING THE APPLICATION FOR CDBG PAVING AID. 
          SO , YOU KNOW, WELL WE LOOK AT BUDGET WHILE WE LOOK AT BOND RESOLUTIONS WITHOUT CALENDAR CERTAIN THINGS IN OUR CALENDAR. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, THIS, I GUESS TAKES US INTO THE DEPARTMENT. 
          THE, THE, UH, HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT GENERAL REPAIRS, CONSOLIDATED HIGHWAY EIGHT PROGRAM MACHINERY, SNOW REMOVAL EMPLOYEE BENEFITS. 
          TED DIDN'T COME OVER FOR AN INTERVIEW TO, UH, SUBMIT TO WHEN HE SUBMITTED HIS BUDGET AND HE SUBMITTED IT LATE. 
          HE PROPOSES A 31% INCREASE IN SPENDING, BUT, UH, OFFERED NO JUSTIFICATION AS TO WHY THAT SHOULD HAPPEN. 
          ANYWAY, THEY'RE RIGHT HERE FOR THE MOST PART. 
          UH, WE TRIED TO DO WHAT WE COULD TO GIVE 'EM WHAT WE HAD TO GIVE THEM. 
          SO ANYWAY, THE APPROPRIATIONS ARE UP IN THAT DEPARTMENT OVER WHERE THEY WERE IN 2021. 
          NOT BY 31%, BUT THEY'RE UP. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AND THE INCREASE IN PERSONNEL SERVICES WOULD BE CONTRACTUAL THAT'S RIGHT. 
          INCREASES. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, UH, NEXT IS THE ENTERPRISE FUND. 
          THIS, UH, DEALS WITH 
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THE, THE GOLF COURSE. 
          UH, AND YOU CAN SEE, UH, WHAT THE REVENUES WERE THERE IN 2021 AND, UH, WHAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING IN 2022. 
          PRETTY GOOD. 
          YOU KNOW, PRETTY GOOD NUMBERS. 
          I THINK I, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, ESTIMATIONS ARE KIND OF LIKE A, UH, A SHOT IN THE DARK, BUT, UH, THE, UH, THE FUND TRANSFER WERE PRETTY MUCH WHERE THE DEPARTMENT HEAD WANTED US TO BE, UH, AS HE WAS AT 7, 7 5 AND WE'RE AT 7 9 1. 
          SO, AND IT'S 72,000 5, 38 MORE THAN LAST YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, NOW ON THE EXPENSE SIDE, WE STILL MAKE MONEY THERE, BUT ON THE EXPENSE SIDE, AS YOU CAN SEE, PERSONAL SERVICES, UH, NOW WHERE WE MEET THE REQUEST, UH, PART-TIME, UH, WE ARE PAYING PART-TIMERS MORE THAN THE MINIMUM WAGE. 
          WE'RE PAYING THOSE PART-TIMERS. 
          KIM, $14 AN HOUR, AREN'T WE? THERE'S A NOTE IN HERE THAT SAM HAD UPDATED IT FOR $16 AN HOUR. 
          UH, WELL THEY WERE AT THE MINIMUM WAGE OF 13, 20, 20 MM-HMM . 
          YEAH. 
          16 AN HOUR IS A LITTLE RICH. 
          MAYBE 14 OR 15 AN HOUR IS OKAY. 
          AND THIS IS MY OPINION, BUT NOW IT'S THE BOARD'S DETERMINATION TOO, NOT JUST MINE. 
          UH, I WANNA BE ABLE TO GET GOOD PEOPLE TO WORK FOR US. 
          BUT YOU THINK THREE BUCKS AN HOUR INCREASE IS, IS A GOOD THING OR NO? I DUNNO. 
          14. 
          14 IS REASONABLE YOU THINK? I THINK SO. 
          YOU DO TOO. 
          EVERYBODY. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU THINK THAT, SO KIM, WOULD YOU JUST MAKE A, MAKE A NOTE OF THAT IF YOU DON'T MIND, PLEASE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WELL THE GOLF COURSE MAINTENANCE IS PAT, RYAN AND PAT'S HERE. 
          UH, PAT, WERE, UH, YOUR REQUEST WAS FOR 4 97 26. 
          WE PROPOSED TO GIVE YOU IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET, FIVE A HALF A MILLION, 23,157. 
          UM, THE BIG INCREASE WAS ON PART-TIME WAGES. 
          SO IT MAY NOT BE AS MUCH IF WE'RE NOT GONNA GO TO 16 BUCKS AN HOUR. 
          I DON'T REMEMBER US SETTLING ON 16, BUT I THINK MIKE'S RIGHT. 
          14 IS PROBABLY OKAY. 
          PAT, WHAT DO YOU SAY ABOUT THAT? WHAT DO YOU THINK? WELL, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY TROUBLE GETTING THE SUMMER HELP. 
          SO YOU THINK 14 IS OKAY? YEAH, I MEAN ANYTHING, YEAH, THEY'LL, I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE TROUBLE GETTING PEOPLE THEY'D, THEY'D LIKE TO GET 16. 
          I KNOW. 
          YEAH. 
          BIG SERVICE. 
          RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          THEY WORK HARD. 
          YEAH. 
          ALRIGHT, WE'LL WE'LL GO WITH 14 THEN. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT INCREASED TO 1 38, 9 EVEN OVER WHAT WAS REQUESTED. 
          THAT WAS JUST TO COVER THE INCREASE. 
          THE, I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT IT IS. 
          WE DON'T ADD ANY MORE PEOPLE. 
          WE HAVE THE SAME NUMBER OF PEOPLE, BUT I THINK THE DIFFERENTIAL IS THE, UH, IS THE, IF YOU GO FROM 1320 TO 16, YOU CAN GET TO THAT NUMBER I THINK. 
          SO THAT SHOULD COME DOWN THEN. 
          YES, THAT'S RIGHT. 
          KIM WILL HAVE TO DO THE MATH ON THAT, HUH? MM-HMM . 
          WITH LAURIE GEL. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          UH, PAT, I DON'T KNOW, HAVE YOU GOT A BOOK BOOK WITH YOU THERE? PAT? ARE YOU LOOKING AT THE NO, I DON'T HAVE IT BY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, DO YOU WANNA LOOK AT THE, THIS ONE? YOU WANNA TAKE A LOOK AND SEE? UH, WE'RE ON PAGE 44. 
          I ACTUALLY, I HAVE A NOTE LOOKING AT AN EMAIL FROM LORI. 
          SHE CALCULATED THEM AT $14 AN HOUR TO GET THAT 1 38 0 9 0 8 OH, OKAY. 
          SO THAT NUMBER IS ACCURATE. 
          OH, ALRIGHT. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          OKAY, GOOD. 
          THAT'S WHAT ACCOUNTS FOR THAT INCREASE THEN. 
          THAT'S GOOD. 
          OVER WHAT THE DEPARTMENT REQUESTED. 
          WELL, RIGHT NOW THEY WERE GETTING 12 SOMETHING. 
          THE MINIMUM WAGE WAS JUST RATES. 
          THE 1320 LAST YEAR WAS THE MINIMUM WAGE WAS WHAT? 12 70 12? YES. 
          SO THEY'RE UP A DOLLAR 30 TIMES HOW MANY EMPLOYEES? SHE HAS 11 TIME SEASONAL AND 11 PART-TIME. 
          JUST REGULAR PART-TIME. 
          SO THAT'S $52 A WEEK TIMES WHAT, 22? I'M NOT SURE. 
          DO THE MATH. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT DO YOU GET? DID YOU JUST DO THE MATH? THAT'S YOUR 1100. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          SO THEN TIMES HOW MANY, HOW MANY WEEKS AFTER THAT WOULD 
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BE? OH, WELL, THAT'S RIGHT. 
          YEAH, I, I'M NOT SURE 70. 
          SHE DOES DIFFERENT PAYROLLS BECAUSE, SO SHE CALCULATED UPGRADES LIKE FOUR PAYROLLS FOR 11 EMPLOYEES AT $30, THEN 10 PAYROLLS FOR 11 EMPLOYEES AT 75 HOURS. 
          OKAY. 
          I CAN FORWARD YOU THE EMAIL IF YOU WOULD LIKE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          WELL, LET'S TAKE A LITTLE ASTERISK ON THAT. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL COME, WE GOTTA STUDY THAT A LITTLE BIT. 
          OKAY. 
          PAT, DO YOU SEE ANYTHING THERE THAT JUMPS OUT AT YOU? NO. 
          ARE YOU OKAY? MM-HMM . 
          ALRIGHT, NOW THE NEXT IS MARTY ON THE GOLF COURSE OPERATIONS. 
          UH, THE BIG, THE BIG TICKET ITEM THERE IS THAT THE, UH, UH, THE GOLF CART LEASING OF THE CARTS. 
          UM, AND OF COURSE, UH, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY A PRETTY GOOD BUCK UNLESS YOU WANT TO BUY A FLEET, BUT I DON'T THINK WE EVER WANNA DO THAT. 
          THAT WAS GETTING WORSE, MORE EXPENSIVE. 
          SO WE'RE PRETTY MUCH IN SYNC CLOSE TO WHAT MARTY IS LOOKING FOR. 
          AND, AND, UH, ABOUT 34,000 MORE THAN WE WERE IN 2021. 
          UM, AND THEN WE'VE GOT, UH, THE DEBT SERVICE, UH, ON, ON THE, ON ON THIS PARTICULAR FUND. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THE NEXT ITEM ON 46 IS THE ICE ARENA. 
          NOW THIS IS THE REVENUE I THINK THAT WE BRING IN, RIGHT? UH, SO THE, THE, THE ACTUAL BUDGET FOR 2021 WAS 630,640 IN REVENUE. 
          BUT OF COURSE THAT WAS A PANDEMIC YEAR. 
          UH, WE WERE DOWN SOMEWHAT, UH, THE PROJECTION IS, UH, 8 27 1. 
          AND THEN, UH, WE FIGURED, UH, KIM AND I FIGURED 108 18. 
          I DON'T KNOW YOUR GUESS IS AS GOOD AS MINE. 
          I REALLY DON'T KNOW. 
          I'M JUST ASSUMING. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          NOW ON THE ICE ARENA EXPENSES, UM, WE, UH, APPROPRIATE 24,387 MORE THAN WE DID IN 2021. 
          AND, AND WE APPROPRIATE, UM, UH, ABOUT 8,000 LESS THAN, UH, PAT HAD ASKED FOR. 
          PAT, AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT, UM, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? WE'VE SPENDING A LOT OF BOND MONEY OUT THERE, THAT'S FOR SURE, FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. 
          ANY, UH, QUESTIONS THERE? NO, I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE WHERE THE, THE MOST INCREASE WAS. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE PAYING SO MUCH MORE IN STATE. 
          YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A MISCALCULATION OR SOMETHING, BUT WHY, WHY IS THAT SO MUCH, KIM? DO YOU HAVE ANY CLUE ON THAT? THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I BELIEVE ERICA JUST CALCULATES OUT BASED ON OUR ESTIMATED BILLS WE RECEIVE, THEY'RE NOT SET BILLS YET. 
          WE RECEIVE AN ESTIMATE FROM THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM. 
          IT WAS PROBABLY TRUED UP FOR THE ACTUAL CENSUS. 
          WE CAN REVIEW IT AND MAKE SURE IT'S RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT SEEMS TO BE THE BULK OF YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          NOW WE'VE GOT MORE, THIS IS MAINTENANCE ON THE OPERATIONS. 
          UM, AGAIN, WE'VE GOT SOME RAISES THERE. 
          UH, MOST OF THE, THE RAISES THERE, UH, PERSONAL SERVICES ARE ALL UNION RAISES, RIGHT? YEAH, CORRECT. 
          UH, OKAY. 
          SO THERE'S NOT MUCH ELSE. 
          THAT'S, EVERYTHING ELSE IS PRETTY MUCH IN SYNC WITH THE DEPARTMENTAL REQUEST. 
          AS A MATTER OF FACT, IT'S RIGHT ON THE MONEY. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, BECAUSE THE PERSONNEL SERVICES AND JUST AS AN EXAMPLE HERE ARE PRETTY SPOT ON. 
          AND SO THE SUPERVISOR'S 2022 MATCHES THE DEPARTMENT REQUEST. 
          YEAH. 
          SO STILL GOING BACK TO THAT GOLF COURSE. 
          WELL THAT 38,000, SO IT WAS JUST A FLUKE IN THAT ONE DEPARTMENT. 
          I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT. 
          I DON'T THINK SO, BECAUSE IF THESE OTHERS, AND SO, AND THIS IS EVEN PAT'S DEPARTMENT ALSO. 
          PAT, PAT AND THIS ONE AND, AND, UH, LINE 1 0 2, THESE FOLKS ARE ALL FULL. 
          THIS LINE REFERS TO ALL FULL-TIMERS. 
          DON'T THERE AS YOUR PART-TIME? OH, IT SAYS PART-TIME. 
          YEAH, NO, THE OH TWO'S PURPOSE SUMMER HEALTH PART-TIMERS. 
          OKAY. 
          TOP TWO ARE. 
          SO WHAT I WONDER WHY, UH, HOW MANY SUMMER HELPERS DO, WE DON'T HAVE MANY AT THE ICE ARENA. 
          NO, WE HAVE IN THE WINTERTIME, DON'T WE? WE ONLY HAVE A COUPLE SUMMER HELPERS. 
          WELL, THAT MAY BE AT THAT RIGHT THERE. 
          THE DIFFERENCE 
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IN THE NUMBERS. 
          I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE THAT BIG OF A NUMBER THOUGH. 
          RIGHT. 
          DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE GOLF COURSE AND THAT. 
          UH, OKAY. 
          WITHOUT CALCULATING, I DUNNO. 
          NO, I'M JUST, THAT SEEMS LIKE MAYBE THAT WAS SOME SORT OF MISCALCULATION. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          WHAT DO YOU THINK? WELL, THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION BECAUSE HERE GOT CALCULATED ON THIS. 
          YOU ON THE MARK? YEAH. 
          IN TERMS. AND YET IT WASN'T ALL I'M CURIOUS THEN. 
          WELL, WE GOTTA, WE BETTER TAKE A LOOK AT IT. 
          KIM, WHAT DO YOU THINK? YEP. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND NOW WE'VE GOT BOND ISSUANCES PERTAINING TO, UH, THE ICE ARENA FUNDS. 
          TAMMY. 
          WE DON'T HAVE TO DO A RESOLUTION ON THE, UH, THURSTON COMPLETION OF THAT PROJECT. 
          OUR, OUR APPROPRIATION HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE PURSUANT TO THE BOND ISSUE AND THE, TO, TO FINISH IT. 
          WE DON'T EXCEED THE MONEY IN THE BOND. 
          SO WE'RE ALL SET. 
          OKAY. 
          THANKS. 
          OKAY. 
          THE STREET LIGHTING FUND, WELL, AS I MENTIONED, WE'VE GOT A, WE'VE GOT A PRINCIPAL PAYMENT THIS YEAR ON, ON BONDED AND DEBTEDNESS. 
          UH, AND WE DON'T HAVE THE LED SAVINGS YET TO OFFSET THAT, BUT WE'LL DO THE BEST WE CAN DO, UM, THE HYDRANT FUND. 
          I THINK THAT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. 
          WE'RE REQUIRED TO CONSTRUCT, UH, HYDRANTS, UH, PURSUANT TO OUR AGREEMENT WITH ER COUNTY WATER, AND WE ARE TO PAY A FEE AS WELL. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          UM, KIM, ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT, UH, THE INSURANCE? WE'RE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME ALL THE WAY. 
          UH, I WORRY ABOUT THE WORKERS' COMP, UH, THAT, THAT SCARES ME A LITTLE BIT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THE, THE, UH, UH, WE'VE DONE A, WE'VE BEEN VERY LUCKY IN TERMS OF KEEPING OUR MAJOR MEDICAL AND HOSPITALIZATION PREMIUM, UH, DOWN FOR EXISTING AND RETIREES, EXISTING EMPLOYEES AND RETIREES. 
          SO, UH, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE STORY STORY. 
          UM, ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO BRING UP THERE, FOLKS? OKAY. 
          NOW FOR THE FIRE DISTRICTS, THIS IS THE FUND BALANCE AND APPROPRIATION SCHEDULE ALONG WITH THE PROPOSED TAX LEVY VERSUS WHAT THE, UH, BUDGET FOR 2020 WAS THE FINAL TAX LEVY. 
          AND YOU'LL SEE THE INCREASE OR DECREASE IN THE FINAL COLUMN. 
          THE MORE IMPORTANT QUESTION IS ON PAGE 53 OF THE, UH, FIRST THING ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT WOULD BE TO DISCUSS WITH THE, UH, UH, FIRE, VARIOUS FIRE DEPARTMENTS IF THEY COME IN, UH, WHAT THEY REQUESTED FOR 2022 AND WHAT I PROPOSED TO GIVE 'EM IN MY PROPOSED BUDGET. 
          AND WHAT YOU ULTIMATELY WILL GIVE 'EM THE TOWN BOARD AND THEN OF COURSE, UH, YOU CAN COMPARE IT TO WHAT WE GAVE THEM IN 2021. 
          UH, IT IS REALLY TOUGH TO DO ANYTHING THAT'S SIGN TIGHT AND SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE GENERALLY SPEAKING, YOU GET ONE PAGE, YOU KNOW,  FIRE SUPPLIES 52,000 INSURANCE, 28,000, THIS 18,000. 
          SO IT'S LIKE, I DUNNO, WE DO THE BEST WE CAN, KIM, TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS REASONABLE, WHAT ISN'T. 
          AND WE WILL SAY TO OUR CHIEFS THAT, UH, THAT IF THEY WANT TO MAKE APPOINTMENTS BETWEEN NOW AND NOVEMBER 15TH WITH BOARD MEMBERS OR WITH ME TO GO OVER THE NUMBERS OR PITCH THEIR PROPOSALS, THAT THAT WOULD BE FINE. 
          BUT EVERY, UH, EVERY, UH, DEPARTMENT GOT AN INCREASE IN THEIR BUDGETED BUDGETS FOR THE YEAR 2022. 
          MAYBE NOT ALL THEY ASKED FOR, BUT AT LEAST THEY GOT INCREASES. 
          LAST YEAR WITH COVID, WE HELD EVERYBODY PRETTY MUCH IN LINE. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          UH, LAKESHORE FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT, THAT'S THE, THE SCHEDULE ON, UH, PROPERTY TAXES AND TRANSFERS TO THE GENERAL FUND. 
          UH, OUR ASSESSED VALUATION WITHIN THE DISTRICT, THE RATE FOR TAXATION FOR 1000 OF ASSESSED VALUATION 
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AND SO ON. 
          SCRANTON VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY, SAME THING. 
          BIG THREE, SAME THING. 
          THIS IS THE BREAKDOWN OF THE AMOUNT TO BE RAISED BY PROPERTY TAXES AND UH, UH, WHAT THE AGGREGATE ASSESSED VALUATION IS IN EACH OF THE DISTRICTS. 
          IT GOES ARMOR NEWTON, ABBOTT, AND THEN THERE'S THE TOWN WIDE. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS I NEVER UNDERSTOOD, AND MAYBE YOU COULD HELP ME OUT WITH THIS, IS THIS WOODLAWN FIRE PROTECT, NOT WOODLAWN FIRE PROTECTION. 
          I GOT A TOWN WIDE PROTECTION. 
          I WANTED TO GET TO THE NEXT ONE. 
          THE SEWER DISTRICT. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO MAKE OF THE WOODLAWN SEWER DISTRICT. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, THAT'S A PAGE 62. 
          NOW WE'RE FUNDING THAT HISTORICALLY, THAT'S OUR OBLIGATION. 
          I'M NOT SURE OF THE ORIGIN OF THE LAW. 
          MAYBE WALTER KNOWS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A HECK LOT OF CONTROL OVER WHAT THEY'RE DOING OR HOW THEY'RE SPENDING IT. 
          KIM, WHAT DID YOU FIND OUT? WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, UH, THEY SUBMIT US VOUCHERS AND THEY HAVE A PAYROLL AND THEY DO THIS AND THEY DO THAT AND WE'RE JUST SIGNING OFF. 
          WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE'RE PAYING WISELY OR WE'RE PAYING TOO MUCH. 
          WELL, THEIR BOARD APPROVES IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND WE ARE JUST ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF THAT PROCESS. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT WE'RE ALSO COVERING THE MONEY, RIGHT. 
          SO IF WE'RE PROCESSING THAT WHICH THEY'VE APPROVED, SHOULD WE HAVE SOME KIND OF MECHANISM FOR AT LEAST AUDITING OR OCCASIONALLY SITTING DOWN WITH THEM TO GO OVER WHAT THEY'RE DOING? MM-HMM . 
          WHAT DO YOU THINK? I DON'T KNOW. 
          BOARD MEMBERS. 
          WHAT DO YOU THINK, MIKE? YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS BOARD THAN I DO. 
          DO THEY HAVE, DO THEY HAVE AN ACTIVE BOARD? HOW MANY MEMBERS ARE ON THEIR BOARD? DO YOU KNOW? THEY DO HAVE AN ACTIVE BOARD BECAUSE THEY SIGN EVERY VOUCHER AND THE BUDGET. 
          THERE'S ALWAYS THREE SIGNATURES. 
          SO I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ON THE ACTUAL BOARD THOUGH. 
          I, I DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN REALLY DO ANYTHING ON IT. 
          I DON'T EITHER, BUT I THINK WE'RE JUST, WE JUST TOLD THE NOTE, THAT'S IT. 
          WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, RIGHT? UH, BUT IF WE'RE TOING THE NOTE, THE QUESTION IS, ARE WE GETTING THE BEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK? RIGHT. 
          WE COULD REALLY FORCE OR DO IT, YOU'D HAVE TO SEE THE AGREEMENT. 
          'CAUSE IT'S WEIRD TO ME THAT EVERYONE WANTS THE ONLY ONES LEFT USED TO BE OTHER. 
          THE MOUNT VERNON WAS KIND OF STUCK BACK. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT THEY'RE STILL ACTUALLY AN OPERATION. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THEIR, UH, SETUP, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          HOW FREQUENTLY IS THAT AGREEMENT WITH ANYONE? I HAVEN'T SEEN IT SINCE I GOT HERE. 
          OR YOU GOT HERE. 
          WE JUST PAY IT EVERY YEAR. 
          WE JUST PAY IT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I MEAN, I THINK WE BETTER TAKE A LOOK AT IT, DON'T YOU THINK? ALRIGHT, KIM, WE, YOU AND I'LL FOLLOW UP ON IT. 
          WE'LL CALL A BOARD MEMBER. 
          I THINK IF, IF IT WOULD BE COMPARED TO THE MOUNT VERNON, UH, DISTRICT. 
          THEY STAYED IN OPERATION AND THEN THEY FINALLY DECIDED TO END IT AND THEN WHEN THEY ENDED IT, IT BASICALLY DUMPED IT INTO OUR LAP. 
          WELL, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THE, THAT OCCURRED OR WHEN IT OCCURRED. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT. 
          SO MAYBE WE CAN DO SOME RESEARCH. 
          MAYBE WE'LL HAVE, INVITE THE, THE BOARD MEMBER TO COME OVER. 
          KEN, TALK WITH US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THIS ALL WORKS. 
          THEY KNOW THE HISTORY, I'M SURE. 
          OKAY. 
          TAMMY, DO YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHT ON THAT? I DON'T HAVE THE HISTORY OF IT. 
          WELL, YOU DON'T EITHER. 
          I ASSUME IT GOES BACK WHEN YOUR FATHER WAS THE TOWN ATTORNEY IN THE SEVENTIES AND, AND THEN BEYOND THAT, I CAN ASK HIM. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          HE MIGHT BE THE BEST SOURCE. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          BUT ANYWAY, THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT CONCERNED ME. 
          I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          AND THEN WE HAD THE MASTER SEWER DISTRICT ENG DRIVE IMPROVEMENT AREA, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. 
          UH, WE'RE STILL PAYING OFF THE BONDS ON THE WACA WATER. 
          UH, WE ONLY GOT A HUNDRED, WE ONLY GOT 110,000 LEFT TO PAY OFF ON THAT BONDED AND DEADNESS. 
          SO THAT'S NOT TOO BAD. 
          THAT'S AT PAGE 69. 
          AND, UM, AND THEN OF COURSE THERE'S PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING IS TO, TO REVIEW THE SALARIES OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, SUPERVISOR, CLERK, JUDGE, AND HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ANYWAY, UM, THAT'S THAT LOOP. 
          WOULD YOU LIKE TO GET STARTED? UH, 'CAUSE YOU WANNA GET HOME? UH, WOULD YOU MIND LADIES AND GENTLEMEN? UH, I KNOW WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO START UNTIL SEVEN. 
          IT'S ALRIGHT. 
          YOU ALRIGHT? OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, AS LONG AS YOU ARE ALL HERE, UH, I'LL, I'LL JUST GIVE YOU WHAT WE DISCUSSED ABOUT AT THE, AT THE WORK SESSION, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. 
          'CAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF YOU'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE, UH, FITNESS CENTER AT THE BEACH. 
          SO LET ME GIVE YOU, LET ME GIVE YOU WHAT WE DISCUSSED EARLIER ON, UH, BACK ABOUT 30 YEARS AGO, 35 YEARS AGO, 30 YEARS AGO, THAT PLACE WAS OPENED AS A YOUTH 
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RECREATION CENTER. 
          AND IT FUNCTIONED THAT WAY FOR A WHILE. 
          BUT THEN IN THE MID 1990S, THERE WAS A GRADUAL TRANSITION 'CAUSE KIDS WEREN'T COMING OVER AND WE WEREN'T GETTING ANY ATTENDANCE. 
          WE GRADUALLY BEGAN TO MOVE IT TOWARDS A HEALTH AND FITNESS CLUB OPERATION. 
          AND IT, AND IT WENT THAT WAY INTO THE LATE NINETIES WITH THE KIDS COMING CERTAIN HOURS AND ADULTS AND OTHER HOURS, EVENTUALLY INTO THE TWO THOUSANDS, IT BECAME PRETTY MUCH WHAT IT IS A FITNESS CENTER. 
          NOW, MARTY DEKE, OUR RECREATION CHAIRMAN, DID SOME DUE DILIGENCE HERE AND SOME RESEARCH. 
          SO I WANNA GIVE THIS TO, I WANNA SHARE THIS WITH ALL OF YOU SO THAT YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS WITH ME AND THE BOARD MEMBERS. 
          SO IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'LL PASS THIS OUT TO YOU, UH, YOU THE BOARD MEMBERS ONCE, OKAY? OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          LEMME GIVE THIS TO YOU FOLKS SO YOU CAN HAVE IT WHILE WE TALK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT. 
          IN ADDITION TO, THAT'S MORE STUFF. 
          HERE COMES. 
          SO AS WE GET INTO, UH, THE TWO THOUSANDS, MARTY DOES A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH TO TELL US WHAT THE MEMBERSHIP HISTORY OF THE FITNESS CENTER IS. 
          IN 2016, WE HAD 363 MEMBERS. 
          IN 2017, IT WENT TO 423, A PICKUP OF ABOUT 60 PEOPLE. 
          THEN WE LOST, UH, 28, 28 20 18, AND WENT DOWN TO 3 95. 
          BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, IT DROPPED 65 DOWN TO THREE 30 THE PANDEMIC YEAR 1 32, AND THEN 1 67 IN THE YEAR 21 TO DATE. 
          NOW YOU'LL NOTICE HERE THAT MARTY INDICATES THAT AT THE BOTTOM, THAT THE RECREATIONAL PERSONAL COSTS, THIS IS APPLIED TO OUR CENTER, 77,038 BUCKS. 
          NOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SECOND SHEET THAT WE GAVE YOU, THIS IS A ANALYSIS OF THE REVENUE THAT COMES IN. 
          IN 2016, UH, WE TOOK IN 37,000 AND CHANGE. 
          AND 2017 WE TOOK IN 39,847. 
          THAT WAS THE BIG YEAR OF 4 23 MEMBERS. 
          17, 18, 30 9,087. 
          WE LOST, FOR SOME REASON, WE LOST $11,000 A LITTLE MORE, WELL, ALMOST $11,000 IN 2019. 
          AND THEN WE HIT ROCK BOTTOM IN 2020. 
          AND RIGHT NOW, THROUGH THE END OF SEPTEMBER, WE GOT $5,507 IN REVENUE. 
          NOW, GRANTED, NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER ARE BIGGER MONTHS FOR GUYS LIKE ME THAT MAKE RESOLUTIONS TO GET IN SHAPE FOR THE NEW YEAR AND THEN FALL OFF THE WAGON BY FEBRUARY. 
          SO WE, WE ARE ANTICIPATING MAYBE $7,000 THIS YEAR IN REVENUE. 
          OF COURSE, THE, THE REVENUE IN RELATION TO THE EXPENSES IS 11 TO ONE. 
          SO YOU SHOULD 
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ALSO KNOW THAT NOT ONLY DID I LOOK AT THIS, BUT I LOOKED AT SOME OTHER THINGS. 
          AND, AND BEFORE YOU GET MAD AT ME, I'VE GOT SOME, I HAD SOME GOOD NEWS TO END UP WITH HIM. 
          THANKS TO SOME GOOD ADVICE FROM MARTY AND FOR JOE, WE, JOE WENZEL OF THE RECREATION CLUB BACK IN 2018. 
          AND THROUGHOUT 2019, A COMMITTEE WAS FORMED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE TREMENDOUS VACANCY RATE IN STRIPPED PLAZAS AROUND HERE. 
          THEY'RE APPROACHING 30% IN, IN SOME OF THESE PLAZAS. 
          WE GOT A COUPLE OF FITNESS CENTERS. 
          LA FITNESS WENT BY THE BOARD, BUT THEN THEY WERE REPLACED BY A NEW ONE DOWN THE RING OF THE MCKINLEY BALD AREA. 
          YOU GOT THE PLANET FITNESS OVER HERE AT THE, UH, TOWN HALL PLAZA, WHICH WAS A GHOST TOWN. 
          WE HAD GABES AND THAT. 
          NOW AND THEN OF COURSE YOU GOT THE CRUNCH FACILITY. 
          NOW I REALIZED AFTER LISTENING TO YOU FOLKS, I GOT ABOUT 26 EMAILS, 27 AND A COUPLE OF PHONE CALLS AND DOING SOME RESEARCH. 
          I CAME TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHILE WE'RE NOT IN BUSINESS TO MAKE MONEY, WE CAN'T JUST THROW IT AWAY. 
          BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, WE GOTTA TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHAT PEOPLE WANT US TO DO. 
          NOW YOU ELECT US TO MAKE INTELLIGENT DECISIONS WITH YOUR MONEY. 
          WE'RE HOLDING THE LINE ON TAXES. 
          WE'VE DONE A GREAT JOB IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS. 
          THIS BOARD HAS TO HOLD THE LINE ON TAXES AS LOW, UH, TERMS OF INCREASES IN ANY FOUR YEAR CYCLE THAT I CAN REMEMBER. 
          SO I SAID TO MARTY, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO? WELL, WE CAN DO SOME NEW THINGS THERE, JIM. 
          WE'RE NOT GONNA CLOSE IT AND BOARD IT UP. 
          THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY DAMN SENSE. 
          SO IF PEOPLE LIKE TO EXERCISE DOWN THERE, LIFT SOME WEIGHTS, GET ON THE TREADMILL OR BE INVOLVED IN THE YOGA CLASS, WHY NOT DO SOME NEW THINGS? SO WE GOT TO THINKING ABOUT THIS AND THIS IS WHAT WE THOUGHT WE'D DO. 
          WE DO WHAT WE DID IN THE NINETIES WHEN THEY PHASED, WHEN THEY GOT RID OF, UH, THE YOUTH, UH, YOUTH CENTER AND WENT TO FITNESS. 
          WE TRY TO BROADEN OUR IMAGE AND CALL THIS THE, UH, THE TOWN BEACH FITNESS AND WELLNESS CENTER THAT WOULD FOCUS ON THE MAINTENANCE OF HEALTH. 
          AND HERE'S WHAT WE HAD COME TO. 
          WE CAN THINK OF MANY RELATED PROGRAMS THAT MIGHT FIT IN THAT CENTER. 
          CLASSES IN NUTRITION. 
          WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS THAT ARE SENIORS LIKE ME, SOME FOLKS SUFFERING FROM TYPE TWO DIABETES, HEART CONDITIONS CLASSES IN NUTRITION, EXERCISE, SCIENCE, MENTAL HEALTH AND WELLNESS, MEDITATION, CREATIVE OUTLETS SUCH AS WE DO YOGA, BUT THAI, MAYBE PILATES. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA GO TO OUR RECREATION BOARD AND WE'RE GONNA GO TO, UH, YOU AS MEMBERS TO COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS OF HOW WE CAN NOT COMPETE WITH THE BIG BOX PLACES LIKE CRUNCH, BUT HOW WE BECOME UNIQUE AND DIFFERENT TO SERVICE A SPECIAL CLASS OF CLIENTELE THAT WOULD BENEFIT FROM WELLNESS AND FITNESS. 
          SO IN OTHER WORDS, IN ORDER TO GET THE REVENUE UP, THE STORES GOTTA OFFER SOME NEW STUFF. 
          SO I CAME TO THAT IDEA AND UH, I MADE A LITTLE JOKE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY EVER SAW THE MOVIE THE DARKEST HOUR, BUT AT THE END OF THE MOVIE, THE LEAD CHARACTER SAYS TO, UH, THE PERSON TALKING WITH HIM, UH, THE PERSON TALKING TO HIM SAYS, HEY, YOU CHANGED YOUR MIND. 
          THE LEAD CHARACTER SAYS, ONE WHO NEVER CHANGES HIS MIND NEVER CHANGES ANYTHING. 
          SO I THINK THE SMART THING TO DO IS TO REINVENT THIS PLACE, KEEP WHAT WE GOT, BUT REALLY GET SMART IN TERMS OF PROMOTING IT. 
          WE DON'T DO ENOUGH IN TERMS OF ONLINE ADVERTISING, MARKETING. 
          AND YOU FOLKS AS MEMBERS CAN HELP BRING IN A FRIEND WHAT MARTY SAID AT THE PRELIMINARY MEETING. 
          WHEN WE SELL QUOTE, UH, LAUNCH PASSES AND BEACH PASSES, WE CAN BE SAYING TO PEOPLE, HEY, BUY A PASS AND DO THAT. 
          NOW, IF YOU PAY THIS OR PAY THAT, YOU GET A $10 DISCOUNT OR YOU CAN BECOME A BEACH MEMBER. 
          THERE'S SO MUCH MORE WE CAN DO. 
          SO WE ARE NEVER GONNA CLOSE IT AND BOARD IT UP. 
          WE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY TO FIX AND PAINT AND CLEAN IT UP. 
          SO MY THINKING IS, IS THAT WE DO SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT MARTY SUGGESTS, AND I'M WILLING TO LISTEN TO WHATEVER YOU WANNA DO IN TERMS OF SOME OTHER THINGS. 
          I GOT A MEETING WEDNESDAY MORNING DOWN THERE AT THE FITNESS CENTER 
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FITNESS AND WELLNESS CENTER, AND I WAS GONNA BE MEETING WITH THE, UH, UH, MEMBERS DOWN THERE TO GO OVER SOME IDEAS AND PLANS. 
          SO THAT'S THE SCOOP ONE WHO NEVER CHANGES HIS MIND, NEVER CHANGES THE DAMN THING. 
          SO THERE YOU GO. 
          YES MA'AM. 
          I HEARD YOU SAY WE'LL KEEP WHAT WE HAVE THERE. 
          YOU LIKE THE YOGA, RIGHT? YOU LIKE THE UH, WELL HERE'S MARTY. 
          NOW I LIKE THE YEAH, THE CLASSES. 
          ALL THE CLASSES AND MACHINES. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT ABOUT, WHAT ABOUT MAKING IT A WELLNESS CENTER WITH NUTRITIONAL COUNSELING? OTHER THINGS? I THINK THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. 
          SOUNDS GREAT. 
          THAT SOUNDS GOOD. 
          WE'RE GONNA, WHAT'S UP BUDDY? OKAY. 
          I'VE BEEN GOING TO THE WELLNESS CENTER NOW FOR ABOUT 19 YEARS. 
          UM, THE EQUIPMENT, WHEN IT BREAKS DOWN, TAKES WEEKS TO GET REPAIRED. 
          NOW, WHEN I SAY WEEKS, IT PROBABLY EVEN GOES THREE, FOUR MONTHS BEFORE A TREADMILL WILL GET REPAIRED. 
          WHEN YOU TALK TO THE GUYS IN BUILDING THE GROUNDS, THEY TELL YOU IT'S NOT THEIR RESPONSIBILITY. 
          THE PERSON WHO WORKS THE DESK MAKES A PHONE CALL, BUT NOTHING EVER HAPPENS. 
          THAT'S NUMBER ONE. 
          WHY YOU LOST MEMBERSHIP NUMBER TWO, REOPEN THE GYM AT SIX IN THE MORNING DURING THE WEEK INSTEAD OF EIGHT O'CLOCK. 
          AND YOU'LL GET A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LEFT TO GO TO CRUNCH AND PLANET FITNESS AND ALL THE OTHER PLACES TO COME BACK. 
          THEY GO TO WORK, THEY START WORKING AT NINE O'CLOCK. 
          THEY'LL COME BACK WHEN IT OPENS EARLIER. 
          OKAY? UM, THERE ARE A COUPLE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT IN THERE THAT ARE OLDER THAN ME. 
          GET RID OF 'EM. 
          THEY'RE NOT BEING USED. 
          THEY TAKE UP SPACE REPLACED. 
          UM, THERE USED TO BE A CARDIAC CLASS IN THE EVENING THAT'S NOT THERE ANYMORE. 
          AND I USED TO GO TO THAT. 
          I ENJOYED IT. 
          UM, PUT A CANOE ROWING MACHINE IN, WHICH IS A GREAT EXERCISE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT. 
          UH, THERE'S A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT OVER IN THE BACK. 
          IT'S A HUMONGOUS PIECE OF STEEL THAT IF YOU SOLD IT FOR SCRAP, YOU COULD BUY A NEW CADILLAC . 
          UM, THOSE ARE SOME THE KEY THINGS. 
          I DON'T THINK WE'RE IN COMPETITION WITH THE BIG GYMS. HOLLYWOOD, THE LA FINISH AND MCKINNEY MALL'S GOT A SWIMMING POOL. 
          WE GOT A BEACH, UH, CRUNCH HAS GOT, UM, SPIN BIKE RIDING CLASSES, WHICH I REALLY ENJOY. 
          WE GOT A SPIN, ANOTHER PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, SPIN BIKE THAT, AGAIN, IT'S OLDER THAN I AM. 
          UH, START SPIN CLASSES AND THAT'S REALLY A POPULAR EXERCISE PROGRAM. 
          YOU COULD HAVE A SPIN CLASS FOR SENIORS ANYWHERE FROM 20 MINUTES TO 45 MINUTES. 
          AND IT, AND IT'S ALSO A GREAT CARDIAC EXERCISE. 
          UM, THESE ARE MY OWN PERSONAL OPINIONS. 
          WELL, I'M GRATEFUL TO HEAR THEM. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, OH, THE OTHER THING IS ON THE WEEKENDS. 
          YES SIR. 
          DON'T KEEP THE GYM OPEN UNTIL THREE O'CLOCK. 
          'CAUSE THERE'S ONLY ABOUT FIVE OF US THAT ARE THERE ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. 
          UH, AND, AND THEN AFTER 12 O'CLOCK, THERE'S NO ONE THERE. 
          SO CLOSE IT AT NOON. 
          DON'T KEEP IT OPEN UNTIL THREE. 
          IF YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT COST SAVINGS AS FAR AS, SO YOU THINK IT'D BE BETTER TO SHIFT THE HOURS DURING THE DAY, DURING THE WEEK TO OPENING AT SIX? IT'S EIGHT CLOSE AT SIX. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU GET UP AT SIX. 
          I GET UP AT FOUR 30. 
          I'M JUST COMING IN AT FOUR 30. 
          , I GO TO BED. 
          I PROBABLY . 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          LAURA, DO YOU WANT ALL COMMENTS NOW OR YOU WANNA WAIT TILL THE END OF THE MEETING? OH, I, I DON'T CARE. 
          WELL, LISTEN, WE GOTTA HAVE MR. MALKI MAKE A PRESENTATION. 
          OKAY. 
          CAN WE WAIT FOR MORE? IS IT ALL RIGHT WITH YOU? I'M FINE. 
          YOU GONNA HANG AROUND FOR A WHILE? YEP. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'RE GONNA START THE FORMAL MEETING, UH, AND YOU'RE WELCOME TO HANG AROUND. 
          I'LL SEE SOME OF YOU WEDNESDAY MORNING WHEN I MEET YOU DOWN THERE. 
          AND, BUT WHAT I, THIS IS ONLY SHAW'S RECOMMENDATION. 
          ULTIMATELY, THE BOARD MAKES DECISIONS. 
          I SUBMIT A TENTATIVE BUDGET. 
          THEY GO ALONG OR THEY MODIFY AS THEY SEE FIT. 
          SO, WITH YOUR PERMISSION, UH, LET, LET US STAND FOR THE PLEASURE OF MEETING PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. 
          ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INVIS, LIBERTY. 
          LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UH, MAYOR CLERK, DO YOU WANNA CALL THE ROLE PLEASE? SUPERVISOR SHAW HERE. 
          HERE. 
          COUNCIL HERE. 
          COUNCIL HERE. 
          OF COURSE. 
          LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, UH, THE GENTLEMAN TO MY RIGHT IS OUR, UH, 
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OUR LEAD ACCOUNT, LUKE ECK OF DRESCHER AND ECKY. 
          THIS PRESENTATION IS PRETTY INTERESTING AND IT WON'T TAKE TOO LONG. 
          IT'S GONNA TELL YOU ABOUT THE BUDGET, HOW MUCH WE RAISED, WHERE WE SPEND, AND I THINK A LOT OF YOU'LL FIND IT INTERESTING. 
          AND THEN IF YOU'D LIKE, WE'LL GET BACK INTO THE Q AND A STUFF. 
          LAURA? READY? READY, SIR? OKAY. 
          SPEAK UP. 
          SO CAN HEAR YOU. 
          I'LL ALRIGHT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WE'LL JUST DO THIS. 
          THIS IS FINE. 
          ALL GOOD. 
          EVENING, EVERYONE. 
          UH, MY NAME IS LUKE LEC, AS A SUPERVISOR SAID, I AM ACCOUNTANT WITH DRES ECK. 
          WE WORK WITH KIM IN THE FINANCE AND WITH THE SUPERVISOR'S OFFICE TO COMPILE YOUR BUDGET. 
          JIM ASKED ME HERE JUST TO PRESENT A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. 
          AND, UH, WE PUT TOGETHER THIS SLIDESHOW TO KIND OF OPEN THE BUDGET HEARING. 
          NO, SIR. 
          GO RIGHT AHEAD. 
          UH, RIGHT HERE. 
          AND, AND THIS, WE'LL MAKE THESE SLIDES AVAILABLE TO, UH, KIM, AND I'M, I'M SURE SHE'LL POST 'EM TO THE WEBSITE IF YOU CAN'T SEE THE SCREEN. 
          THE BUDGET PROCESS STARTS ACTUALLY IN JULY FOR THE, FOR THIS SUBSEQUENT YEAR. 
          THE FINANCE OFFICE WILL SEND THE REQUEST TO EACH DEPARTMENT HEADS, AND THEN IN AUGUST, THOSE DEPARTMENT HEADS BRING THE, THE REQUEST BACK TO THE FINANCE OFFICE. 
          AND THEN, UM, JIM WILL THEN MEET WITH THE INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT HEADS TO MAP OUT WHAT THE, UH, ANTICIPATED BUDGET WILL BE. 
          UM, THROUGHOUT SEPTEMBER, JIM WILL WORK TO, UH, EITHER, UH, WHITTLE DOWN OR GRANT EXTRA STUFF TO THE DEPARTMENT HEAD'S BUDGET. 
          TO WHICH POINT WE GET TO THE OFFICIAL PRELIMINARY BUDGET THAT HAS BEEN POSTED TO THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT'S WEBSITE AND WAS SUBMITTED TO THE TOWN CLERK ON SEPTEMBER 30TH. 
          THE NEXT STEP IN THE BUDGET PROCESS IS ON, UH, TODAY, OCTOBER 25TH TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, WHERE THE TOWN BOARDS, UH, AND THE PUBLIC CAN GIVE COMMENTS TO THE SUPERVISOR'S BUDGET, THEN BE SOMETIME BEFORE NOVEMBER 20TH, WHICH IN YOUR CASE IS SLATED FOR NOVEMBER 15TH. 
          THE TOWN BOARD WILL ADOPT EITHER WITH AMENDMENTS OR WITHOUT AMENDMENTS, UH, THE SUPERVISOR'S BUDGET TO BE IMPLEMENTED FOR THE NEXT YEAR. 
          SO, JUST A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT'S WITHIN THE BUDGET. 
          UH, THERE'S SEVERAL FUNDS WITHIN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG. 
          THE THREE THAT WE LOOK AT AS THE MAIN OPERATING FUNDS ARE THE GENERAL FUND TOWN, OUTSIDE VILLAGE FUND, AND THE HIGHWAY FUND. 
          THOSE ARE THE, THE ONES THAT ARE BEING, UM, MAINLY DRIVING THE TAX RATES. 
          THE REST OF THE FUNDS ON THE LEFT SIDE IS THE SPECIAL DISTRICTS, WHICH THOSE ARE HOUSE BY HOUSE. 
          UM, SPECIFIC, UH, WITHIN THE, UH, BUDGET DOCUMENT, WELL IS AN INSURANCE RESERVE FUND THAT HANDLES THE GENERAL LIABILITY AND WORKERS' COMPENSATION, AS WELL AS THE TWO ENTERPRISE FUNDS THAT REMAIN IN THE TOWN OF THE GOLF COURSE AND THE ICE ARENA. 
          FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS PRESENTATION, WE'LL FOCUS MAINLY ON THOSE OPERATING FUNDS AND LOOK AT THOSE TAX RATES. 
          SO THE COMPONENTS WITHIN THE BUDGET, UH, CERTAINLY EVERY YEAR, THERE'S VARIOUS CHALLENGES WITH THE BUDGET. 
          UH, THIS YEAR WAS NO DIFFERENT, ALTHOUGH THERE WERE SOME FAVORABLE ITEMS WITHIN THE ESTIMATED REVENUES THAT WE'LL TOUCH ON RIGHT AWAY. 
          UM, FOREMOST, THE LE THE, THE, ALTHOUGH, UM, 2020 WAS QUITE UNPREDICTABLE WAS SALES TAX WITHIN THE TOWN OUTSIDE VILLAGE FUND, WHICH IS THAT FUND THAT SERVICES THE, THE ANY RESIDENTS NOT WITHIN THE VILLAGE. 
          UM, THERE WAS A, A FAVORABLE SALES TAX. 
          NOW, THE VILLAGE RESIDENTS GET THEIR OWN SALES TAX THROUGH THE VILLAGE. 
          SO THIS REVENUE COMPONENT CAN ONLY BE USED TO SERVICE THOSE RESIDENTS OUTSIDE THE VILLAGE, WHICH IN THIS CASE IS THE TOWN OUTSIDE VILLAGE, WHICH LARGELY HOSTS THE PUBLIC SAFETY OR THE POLICE, UH, SERVICES. 
          SO ALTHOUGH 2020 WAS A VERY UNPREDICTABLE YEAR, IT'S LOOKING LIKE 2021 IS CURRENTLY PROJECTED TO BE AT ABOUT $8 MILLION. 
          AND THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE WHAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL BUDGET FOR 2021 IS 6.9. 
          SO THE SUPER SUPERVISOR'S BUDGET IS ABLE TO INC INCREASE THAT LINE BY ABOUT $700,000 TO HELP KEEP THAT TAX RATE A LITTLE BIT STEADY. 
          SIMILARLY, WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND, UH, THERE'S MORTGAGE TAX REVENUE THAT TAKES THE FORM OF STATE AID 'CAUSE IT GETS PASSED THROUGH THE STATE IN THE 2021 BUDGET. 
          AGAIN, UNPREDICTABLE. 
          WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON WITH THE PANDEMIC, JIM INCLUDED $1.2 MILLION. 
          2020 IS ACTUALLY SHAPING UP TO BE A VERY FAVORABLE YEAR, AND IT'S ESTIMATED TO COME IN AT ABOUT 1.8 MILLION AS OF NOW. 
          SO THE, THE SUPERVISOR'S BUDGET WAS ABLE TO INCREASE THAT LINE ITEM BY ABOUT $375,000 AS WELL. 
          SO THOSE COMPONENTS, ALONG WITH SEVERAL OTHER REVENUE ITEMS SUCH AS DEPARTMENTAL AID, FEDERAL AID, UH, THE, UH, DEPART DEPARTMENTAL REVENUES, FEDERAL AID, AND THEN, UH, THE STATE AID WILL ALL COME IN TO KIND OF HELP SUPPORT AND REDUCE THAT TAX LEVY. 
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NOW, THE APPROPRIATION SIDE OF THINGS, THOSE ARE OBVIOUSLY WHERE SOME OF THE, THE MORE DIFFICULT OR, OR, UH, MORE FLEXIBLE DECISIONS CAN BE MADE. 
          HOWEVER, YOUR TOWN, LIKE SEVERAL OTHER TOWNS WITHIN, UH, NEW YORK STATE, ABOUT 75, 70% OF THAT BUDGET APPROPRIATIONS ARE ALREADY SET WITH EITHER UNION CONTRACTS OR MANDATED EMPLOYEE BENEFITS. 
          SO THAT LEAVES ABOUT APPROXIMATELY 30% OF THE BUDGET. 
          THAT'S A, A, A AVAILABLE FOR EITHER DEBT SERVICE, CONTRACTUAL EXPENDITURES OR EQUIPMENT. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE THE FLEXIBILITY CAN CAN HAPPEN. 
          THE THE THIRD COMPONENT HERE IS APPROPRIATED FUND BALANCE. 
          THE TOWN BOARD HAS, UH, THE ABILITY TO TAKE SOME OF THE RESERVES OR SAVINGS THAT WE'LL TOUCH UPON A LITTLE BIT LATER SLIDE TO OFFSET SOME OF THE TAX LEVY. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, USE SOME OF THAT SAVINGS TO REDUCE THE TAXES. 
          AND THEN THE REMAINING COMPONENT ENDS UP BEING THE TAX LEVY. 
          SO WHAT WERE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES TO THE SUPERVISOR'S BUDGET IN THE CURRENT YEAR? THE NEXT SLIDE, WE'RE GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE VLT ALLOTMENT THAT WAS OFFERED BY THE STATE YEARS AGO AND STILL RESIDES AT A, UH, BELOW THE COMMITTED LEVEL. 
          ADDITIONALLY, THE SECOND BULLET, STATE AID SOURCES, THEY'RE VERY LIMITED AND ACTUALLY WERE THREATENED. 
          LAST YEAR, UH, ACROSS THE BOARD, THE STATE THREATENED TO CUT 20% OF THE AGE JUST LIKE THAT, AND UNILATERALLY TOOK ALL THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES BY SURPRISE. 
          SO CERTAINLY THEY'RE NOT INCREASING TO THE TUNE. 
          UH, THAT INFLATION'S INCREASING AND ACTUALLY REMAINING QUITE STAGNANT OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. 
          SO NO HELP WITH THAT. 
          ANYONE THAT HAS A BANK ACCOUNT KNOWS THAT LOW, THAT INTEREST RATES ARE AT THE LOWEST THEY'VE BEEN TO IN RECENT MEMORY. 
          UH, SO WHERE THE TOWN COULD RELY ON A FEW, FEW, UH, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON INTEREST RATES REVENUE, NOW YOU'RE LUCKY TO GET EVEN UP TO $10,000 SO THAT THAT PORTION OF THE REVENUES, UH, IS, IS NOW BEING REMOVED. 
          UH, JIM STARTED THE, THE KIND OF DIS THE DISCUSSION ON THE LIMITED OPPORTUNITIES WITH DEPARTMENTAL RE UH, REVENUES. 
          IT REALLY IS LIMITED TO THE, THE, THE YOUTH SERVICES, THE SENIORS, UM, SENIOR PROGRAMS, AS WELL AS FINES AND FORFEITURES. 
          UH, BUT YOU CAN ONLY EXTEND THE BARRIERS OF THAT SO FAR TO, TO BRING REVENUES INTO THE TOWN. 
          SO AGAIN, LOTS OF CHALLENGES IN THIS BUDGET WITH THE REVENUES. 
          I DID MENTION THE VLT, UH, BACK WHEN, WHEN 54 L STATE FINANCE LAW WAS PRESENTED TO COMMUNITIES LIKE YOURS THAT, UH, SET UP THE, THE VLT GAMING SYSTEMS, THE CONCEPT WAS ABOUT 3.5% OF THE NET WIN WOULD GO TO THE TOWN AND TO THE COUNTY, THE BULK OF WHICH WOULD GO TO THE TOWN. 
          NOW, ACCORDING TO THAT FORMULA, THE TOWN OF HAMBURG WOULD BE RECEIVING CLOSE TO $2.1 MILLION IN THE 2022 BUDGET. 
          THIS, UH, INCLUDES THE 865 6 79 THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN. 
          THIS WASN'T EVEN WHAT WAS RECEIVED IN 2021. 
          2021. 
          THE, THE OR 2020. 
          2020 WAS ACTUALLY CUT AND REDUCED TO 692. 
          AS I MENTIONED, THE STATE A KIND, THE STATE KIND OF JUST PULLED THE RUG UNDER FROM SOME OF THESE LOCALS, AND YOUR TIME WAS NO DIFFERENT. 
          TAKING 20% OF THAT VLT REVENUE, THE SUPERVISOR ANTICIPATES WITH THIS BUDGET THAT WILL GET REINSTATED TO THE AMOUNTS PREVIOUS TO THE PANDEMIC AT 865,000, BUT STILL WELL SHORT OF THE AMOUNT THAT WAS PROMISED BY ABOUT 1.3 MILLION. 
          JUST A QUICK BREAKDOWN OF WHERE THESE REVENUES GOES. 
          I DID SAY THAT THE, THE ACTUAL, THE, THE CONTROLLABLE REVENUES SORT OF ARE THE DEPARTMENTAL FEES AND THE FINES AND FORFEITURES. 
          THOSE ARE KIND OF THE, THE, THE, THIS TOWN BOARD HAS THE ABILITY TO EITHER GENERATE NEW REVENUE THROUGH, THROUGH NEW IDEAS OR CHANGE THE RATES OF SERVICES HIGHER OR LOWER, BUT THAT'S ONLY 12% OF THE TOTAL REVENUE BUDGET. 
          SO IT REALLY DOESN'T HAVE MUCH INFLUENCE OVER THE WAY, THE WAY THE BUDGET DOES, BUT IT DOES DRIVE WHICH SORT OF PROGRAMS THE TOWN CAN OFFER. 
          WHERE DOES THE REST OF THE REVENUE COME SHOWS IS SHOWN HERE. 
          UH, 15% OF IT IS THE, IS THE STATE AND FEDERAL AID. 
          SO THAT REALLY DOESN'T DO MUCH EITHER. 
          THAT, AND AS, AS WE SAID, IT'S BEEN PRETTY STAGNANT AND THAT PORTION OF PERCENTAGE HAS ACTUALLY BEEN SHRINKING IN RECENT YEARS AS ALL THE OTHER REVENUES SORT OF GROW. 
          THOSE REMAIN PRETTY STEADY. 
          NOW, THE TOWN DID RECEIVE A SIZABLE AMOUNT OF ARPA, AMERICAN RECOVERY PLAN ACT. 
          HOWEVER, THOSE REVENUES ARE NAMELY BEING USED OR BEING ALLOCATED IN THIS TOWN'S, UH, VANTAGE POINT TOWARDS ONE TIME COSTS. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, NOT CREATING INSTITUTIONAL COSTS THAT IN FOUR YEARS WHEN THESE, UH, ARPA REVENUES DRY UP, YOU WOULD HAVE TO FUND THOSE PROGRAMS WITH TAX SERVICE DOLLARS, WHICH TO IS A, A, UH, A GOOD WAY OF PREVENTING FUTURE TAX SPIKES TO, UH, KEEP A SMOOTH, UH, TAX RATE. 
          THE REMAINING PORTION IS EITHER INTEREST, WHICH IS DOWN TO 1%, WHICH IS THE LOWEST I'VE EVER SEEN. 
          AND IT USED TO BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THREE AND 5% WITHIN THIS PIE GRAPH NOW DOWN TO ONE. 
          SO 4% GONE. 
          THE REST OF IT COMES INTERNALLY, EITHER THROUGH OTHER FUNDS OR THROUGH THE, THE RESERVES OR THROUGH THE REAL PROPERTY TAX. 
          THAT'S 72% OF THE TAX LEVY IS PRODU, OR 72% OF THE REVENUES IS EITHER PRODUCED FROM INTER FUND REVENUES OR SAVINGS OR FROM THE TAX LEVY. 
          SO THAT'S WHY THOSE CHALLENGES THAT WE SHOWED ON THE REAL SLIDE, THAT THE PREVIOUS SLIDE MAKE IT ALL THE MORE DIFFICULT WHEN YOU SEE THE, THE SIZE 
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OF THE, THE, THE, THE SLICES THAT THOSE ACTUALLY MAKE. 
          THE, UH, APPROPRIATIONS ALSO HAD SOME DIFFICULT CHALLENGES TOO. 
          HEALTH INSURANCE IS PROJECTED TO GO DOWN. 
          YOU GUYS, UH, WORK WITH A THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR TO DO, UH, KIND OF A POOLED HEALTH INSURANCE PROGRAM. 
          THEY DID OUR FORECASTING A DECREASE IN 2021 AND 2022. 
          WE STILL DON'T KNOW WHERE 2020 ONE'S GONNA WIND UP. 
          SO WE'RE JUST GOING ON THE PROFESSIONALS, UM, SPECULATIONS. 
          BUT I WILL SAY THAT EVEN THOUGH IT IS PROJECTED TO BE LESS THAN IT WAS BACK IN 2020, IT'S STILL 38% HIGHER THAN IT WAS 10 YEARS AGO. 
          AND THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE MARKET. 
          THE, THE BENEFITS THAT WERE OFFERED BY THE TOWN HAVE NOT INCREASED IN ANY WAY WITH ANY OF THE UNION NEGOTIATIONS. 
          THE MARKET HAS CHANGED AND DROVE THAT COST UP ANOTHER 38%. 
          SO THE GENERAL, AND THAT'S IN THE GENERAL FUND SPECIFICALLY. 
          THIS NEXT SLIDE WILL SHOW THE TREND IN THE, THE ACROSS THE TOWN AND THE GENERAL FUND. 
          SPECIFICALLY, THIS BUDGET INCLUDES ABOUT $2 MILLION OF HEALTH INSURANCE, EXPEN, EXCUSE ME, $2.9 MILLION OF HEALTH INSURANCE EXPENSES. 
          IN 2013, THAT NUMBER WAS 2 MILLION. 
          SO 900 THOU OR $800,000 ON, UH, $2 MILLION IS 38% INCREASE OVER 10 YEARS. 
          CAPITAL REINVESTMENT IN THE HIGHWAY FUND, UH, VERY SIZABLE INFRASTRUCTURE COMPONENT OF YOUR TOWN. 
          LOTS OF MAINTENANCE AND LOTS OF ROADS THAT DO NEED REPAIR. 
          HOWEVER, THERE'S VERY LIMITED STATE AID AND AN AGING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT CAN'T, ISN'T MATCHING. 
          UM, THE AID IS NOT MATCHING THE AGING INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF RUMBLINGS IN WASHINGTON ABOUT THE, THE FEDERAL PROGRAM. 
          A LOT, A LOT OF UNKNOWNS WITH THAT. 
          MAYBE SOME WILL COME IN TO HELP, UM, BUT IT STILL IS A STRUGGLE TO TRY TO PUT SOME MONEY TOWARDS THE REINVESTMENT OF, UH, HIGHWAY, WHICH THE SUPERVISOR HAD TO EVALUATE IN PUTTING TOGETHER HIS PRO PROPOSED BUDGET. 
          THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM COSTS INCREASING. 
          UH, THE RATES STILL ARE, ARE DROPPING A BIT, BUT THEY STILL REMAIN SIGNIFICANT. 
          ABOUT $3.4 MILLION IN, UH, RETIREMENT COSTS A YEAR. 
          AND THOSE ARE MANDATED BY THE STATE OF NEW YORK. 
          ANY EMPLOYEE THAT WORKS FOR THE TOWN IS OFFERED THE OP OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE ERS, THE EMPLOYEE'S RETIREMENT SYSTEM OR THE POLICE AND FIRE RETIREMENT SYSTEM. 
          SO IT'S A MANDATED COST, $3.4 MILLION. 
          THAT'S 7% OF THE BUDGET IS COMPRISED OF THAT 3.4 MILLION. 
          AND IN FACT, IF YOU ADD THE TOWN WIDE HEALTH INSURANCE, THAT BRINGS THAT TOTAL MANDATED COST 'CAUSE HEALTH INSURANCE IS MANDATED THROUGH THE UNION NEGO NEGOTIATIONS TO ABOUT 11 MILLION, WHICH REALLY COMPRISES OF JUST REALLY CLOSE TO 20% OF THE TOWN'S BUDGET IS ALREADY SET BEFORE THE TOWN BOARD EVEN STARTS DELIBERATING. 
          THE NEXT COMPONENT AS WELL, UH, IS CERTAINLY CONTROLLED BY THE TOWN AND THE UNION NEGOTIATIONS. 
          HOWEVER, NOT AT THIS MEETING OR NOT IN THIS BUDGET CYCLE. 
          IT'S DURING THE NEGOTIATIONS OF THE UNION, AND THAT'S YOUR SALARIES AND PERSONNEL COSTS. 
          FINALLY, THE LAST BUDGET CHALLENGE WAS REALLY SIGNIFICANT IN, UH, THE PRE THIS, THIS CURRENT YEAR, IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR IS THE MANDATED PAYOFFS FOR RETARY EMPLOYEES. 
          THIS IS A COMMON PRACTICE WITH MUNICIPALITIES. 
          PART OF THE, THE, THE LABOR NEGOTIATIONS IS TO PROVIDE SICK AND VACATION ACCRUAL. 
          MANY MUNICIPALITIES GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES TO BANK THAT TIME AND AT UPON RETIREMENT, ANY UNUSED AMOUNTS THAT ARE ALLOWED TO BE PAID OUT UNDER THE UNION CONTRACTS ARE PAID IN A LUMP SUM CONTRACT. 
          AGAIN, A PRETTY STANDARD PRACTICE FOR MUNICIPALITIES, BUT IT IS A BUDGET CHALLENGE AND VERY HARD TO PREDICT AS YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET CYCLE. 
          SO JUST VISUALLY LOOKING AT WHERE THE HEALTH INSURANCE IS, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF RELIEF. 
          AGAIN, THESE TWO NUMBERS OVER HERE, THE 21 AND 22 ARE BUDGETED. 
          KIM'S MONITORING THAT AT THE, IN THE ACCOUNTING FINANCE OFFICE NOW TO SEE HOW THOSE, THOSE COME IN. 
          BUT AS OF NOW, WE'RE HOPING TO GET A BETTER PICTURE BEFORE THE BUDGET GETS ADOPTED IN MID-NOVEMBER. 
          BUT AS OF NOW, WE'RE BASING IT ON THE BEST INFORMATION THAT THE TOWN HAS AVAILABLE, AND THAT'S THROUGH THEIR, UM, THEIR THIRD PARTY AD ADMINISTRATOR. 
          BUT YOU CAN SEE THE SKYROCKETING COSTS FROM ABOUT 4.3 MILLION TO A PEAK OF ABOUT 6.6 DURING THE PANDEMIC YEAR. 
          AND NOW SEEMINGLY GOING DOWN A LITTLE BIT AND STABILIZING A BIT AT 5.7, THAT CHANGE BETWEEN 2014 AND PROJECTED 2022 IS ABOUT 33% ACROSS ALL FUNDS. 
          NOW, THE RETIREMENT RATES, I DID SAY, UM, HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF RELIEF, BUT STILL A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT NUMBER. 
          WHAT YOU'LL SEE HERE IS WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE RETIREMENT RATES IS THE STATE USES A FIVE YEAR BLENDING. 
          SO IF THERE'S A BIG DOWNTURN IN THE ECONOMY, IT TAKES FIVE YEARS OF, OF INCREASING RATES BEFORE THEY START TO DECREASE. 
          LAST MAJOR RECESSION WAS IN 28, 2008, 2009. 
          RATES REFLECTED THAT BY STARTING TO SKYROCKET FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS UNTIL THEY REACHED THEIR MAX AND IT STARTED TO GO DOWN AGAIN. 
          2020 HAD A SIMILAR EFFECTS IN THE MARKET WHEN THE, UH, PANDEMIC HIT THE MARKET TOOK A BIG NOSE DIVE THE YEAR, THE FISCAL YEAR OF THE STATE HAPPENED TO END ON MARCH 31ST, WHICH IS ABOUT WHEN THE THE MARKET WAS IN ITS DARN WHICH SPIRAL. 
          FORTUNATELY, 
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THE 2021 RATES TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION THE RECOVERY FROM MARCH 31ST, 2020 THROUGH THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR 20. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT THE TOWNS RECOGNIZING. 
          THE MUNICIPALITIES ACROSS THE STATE ARE RECOGNIZING A SLIGHT DECREASE IN 2022. 
          AND A BIT OF GOOD NEWS ON THIS IS THAT THE BLUE LINE, WHICH IS THE ERS OF EMPLOYEES RETIREMENT SYSTEM, HAS REACHED ITS ITS LEVEL THAT IT HASN'T SEEN SINCE 2010. 
          THAT'S PRETTY REMARKABLE FEAT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT OVER THE COURSE OF IT TOOK 12 YEARS, BUT YOU GOT BACK TO WHERE YOU WERE IN 2010, IN 2000 AND, UH, 14 WAS THE LAST TIME THE PFRS WAS WHERE YOU ARE TODAY. 
          SO A LITTLE BIT OF A, A GOOD NEWS WITHIN ALL OF THE, UH, THE STRUGGLES THAT THAT, THAT THE SUPERVISOR IS WORKING FOR. 
          SO WHERE DOES YOUR MONEY GO AS A TAXPAYER? RIGHT HERE IS THE CHART OF THE BREAKDOWN OF IT. 
          UH, THE BULK OF THE MONEY WILL GO. 
          70% GO TO PROVIDE EMPLOYEE BENEFITS, POLICE SERVICES OR ROADS AND TRANSPORTATION, UH, EMPLOYEE BENEFITS. 
          THOSE, THOSE, THOSE LARGE TICKET ITEMS THAT I TALKED ABOUT, EMPLOYEE RETIREMENT SYSTEM HEALTH INSURANCE COMPRISE 29% OF YOUR PIE. 
          PUBLIC SAFETY IS ABOUT 27%. 
          THAT'S MOSTLY IN THE TOWN OUTSIDE VILLAGE. 
          SO THOSE, THOSE ARE THE RESIDENTS SUPPORTING THAT. 
          AS WELL AS THAT CHUNK OF SALES TAX THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE BEGINNING, WHICH HAD A, A, A POSITIVE IMPACT BY THAT SALES TAX GROWING. 
          THE COST OF THOSE PUBLIC SAFETY IS, WAS LARGELY SUBSIDIZED THROUGH THAT SALES TAX. 
          THE 10% FOR GENERAL GOVERNMENT SUPPORTS, THAT'S THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE REQUIRED OFFICES BY THE STATE, THOSE ARE ANY SORT OF OFFICES, TOWN CLERK, TAX RECEIVER, SUPERVISOR, THE TOWN BOARD, THOSE WILL ALL GO INTO GENERAL SUPPORT AS WELL AS ASSESSING ENGINEERING, LAW, FINANCE AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. 
          UH, UH, A A LITTLE, UH, A HIGHLIGHT OF THIS IS THAT THE, THE TOTAL FUNDS ACTUALLY ONLY HAVE 1% AS DEBT SERVICE. 
          SO A PRETTY NOMINAL, UH, VERY REAL, VERY, UH, ACCOMMODATING DEBT SERVICE LOAD SHOULD ADDITIONAL PROJECTS WANT TO BE UNDERTAKEN. 
          THAT SAID, THIS 2022 BUDGET DOES INCLUDE SOME INCREASES IN DEBT SERVICE IN THE GENERAL FUND FOR, UH, THE, UH, MOST RECENT BOND ISSUE OF ABOUT, I THINK IT WAS 6 MILLION OR SO IN, IN RECENT YEARS. 
          SO THE TREND OF APPROPRIATION, HIST APPROPRIATION HISTORY, A VERY STABLE TREND, UH, LAST YEAR DID HAVE A, A SLIGHT DOWNTURN AS A KIND OF A, A REACTION TO THE PANDEMIC. 
          IT WAS UNSURE AT THIS TIME LAST YEAR, HOW LONG THE, UH, THE RECOVERY WOULD TAKE. 
          ALTHOUGH WE'RE STILL IN THE MIDST OF COD. 
          UH, WE STARTED TO SEE THE ECONOMY COME BACK TO A, A NEW SENSE OF A NORMAL. 
          AND, UH, THIS BUDGET REFLECTS IT. 
          YOU KIND OF PICK UP THE TREND, BUT IT'S ONLY ABOUT $500,000 MORE THAN WHERE YOU WERE IN 22, UH, 2020. 
          SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT, IT'S ABOUT A 3% FROM LAST YEAR, BUT REALISTICALLY, IT'S ABOUT ONE AND A HALF PERCENT FROM WHERE YOU WERE TWO YEARS AGO. 
          SO, VERY MODEST INCREASE IN, IN, UH, APPROPRIATIONS. 
          WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR APPROPRIATIONS COMPARED TO 2013, JUST AS A KIND OF A BAROMETER, REMEMBER I SAID THAT THE HEALTH INSURANCE HAS INCREASED BY ABOUT A THIRD 33% WHILE THE TOTAL WHILE ABSORBING THAT COST AND ALL THE OTHER COSTS WITHIN THE TOWN, YOUR TOTAL APPROPRIATIONS ACTUALLY ONLY CHANGED BY 16%. 
          SO, UH, THAT'S, UH, AN AVERAGE OF ABOUT 1.8% A YEAR. 
          SOME OTHER FACTORS THAT ARE, UH, A LITTLE BIT CHALLENGING, UM, BUT ALSO, UM, PRETTY CONSERVATIVE FROM THE, IN THIS, IN THIS REGARDS TO THIS SUPERVISOR'S BUDGET. 
          UH, THE BUDGET OF THE SUPERVISOR PUT PUT TOGETHER IN THIS CASE IS THE APPROPRIATED FUND BALANCE. 
          I DID SAY THE TOWN HAS THE OPTION TO USE RESERVES. 
          FIVE YEARS AGO, UH, THE TOWN WAS USING ABOUT $2.1 MILLION OF RESERVE FUND BALANCE TO SUPPORT THE BUDGET. 
          A LARGE PORTION OF THAT ONE, ONE AND A HALF MILLION WAS WITHIN THE TOWN OUTSIDE VILLAGE FUND. 
          THAT POLICE FUND, WHILE THAT POLICE FUND, UH, STARTED TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A, A, A, A DRAW DOWN ON ITS FUND BALANCE, SO THAT CAPABILITY OF USING THOSE AMOUNTS OF FUNDS WASN'T AVAILABLE ANYMORE. 
          SO THIS, UH, IN RECENT YEARS, THE TOWN BEGAN TO WEAN THEMSELVES DOWN TO ABOUT 700,000. 
          SO THE DIFFERENCES ABOUT $900,000 OF SAVINGS THAT WAS USED TO BALANCE THE BUDGET WAS NOW REDUCED AND HAD TO BE ABSORBED WITHIN OTHER FORMS OF APPROPRIATION REDUCTIONS OR, UH, UH, OR, UH, LEVY INCREASES. 
          AND FORTUNATELY, MOST OF THAT WAS ABSORBED BY APPROPRIATIONS OR YEAH, APPROPRIATION REDUCTIONS. 
          THE OTHER FACTOR, UH, THAT COULD AFFECT YOUR TAX RATE, BUT NOT SO MUCH YOUR TAX LEVY IS THE ASSESSED VALUE. 
          OBVIOUSLY, IF THERE'S A HIGHER, A, A HIGHER GROWTH OF ASSESSED VALUE, THAT'S GONNA DRIVE YOUR TAX RATE DOWN. 
          WELL, THIS YEAR, EXCUSE ME, THE TOWN ONLY RECEIVED A TAX ASSESSMENT INCREASE OF ABOUT 0.7. 
          SO THE TAX RATE THAT YOU SEE REFLECT REALLY THE, UH, DILIGENCE OF THE SUPERVISOR'S BUDGET TO KEEP THOSE TAXES LOW AND LESS OF THE, UH, KIND OF THE MATHEMATICAL EQUATIONS OF A REDUCED, UH, OR AN INCREASE IN THE ASSESSMENTS. 
          SO LET'S LOOK AT THE, UH, THE LAST FOUR YEARS AND THEN WE'LL BREAK DOWN THE RATES A LITTLE BIT DEEPER ON THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE TOWN OUTSIDE VILLAGE, WHICH THAT WOULD INCLUDE YOUR GENERAL FUND, WHICH EVERY RESIDENT OF THE TOWN PAYS THE TOWN OUTSIDE 
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VILLAGE FUND, WHICH IS THAT POLICE FUND MAINLY ALSO HAS A ZONE PLANNING AND ZONING COMPONENT. 
          AND THEN THE HIGHWAY FUND. 
          THE HIGHWAY FUND IS PAID ONLY BY THE, THE TOP RESIDENTS OUTSIDE OF THE, UH, VILLAGES. 
          THE VILLAGES HAVE THEIR OWN HIGHWAY DEPARTMENTS. 
          THAT RATE IS PROPOSED WITH THIS BUDGET, $11 AND 12 CENTS PER $1,000, WHICH IS A REDUCTION OF ABOUT 1.5% FROM LAST YEAR'S, UH, ADOPTED BUDGET OF $11 AND 30 CENTS. 
          NOW, THE VILLAGE TAXPAYERS, UH, WHICH WOULD BE THE GENERAL FUND ONLY IS, ARE, ARE EXPOSED TO $5 AND 21 CENTS PER $1,000 OF, UH, OF ASSESSED VALUE. 
          THAT'S A SLIGHT INCREASE OF ABOUT 3 CENTS FROM LAST YEAR OF, UH, ABOUT A HALF PERCENT. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE, THE, THE, THE TREND OF THE LAST FEW YEARS, THE PERCENTAGES DOWN THERE BELOW, UH, THE TOWN OUTSIDE VILLAGE RESIDENTS IN 2019 SAW A, A VERY MODEST DECREASE OF ABOUT ONE 10TH PERCENT, TWO YEARS OF ABOUT A 2% INCREASE. 
          AND NOW THIS YEAR, A 1.5% DECREASE THAT AVERAGES OUT TO A RATE OF CHANGE OF ABOUT SIX TENTHS OF A PERCENT. 
          TH THOSE WITHIN THE VILLAGES SAW A SIMILAR, UH, PRETTY MUCH A LEVEL TAX IN 18 TO 19, UH, AND THEN A ONE, ONE AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE IN 2020, AND THEN A 10, UH, 0.14% INCREASE IN 21. 
          AND AS I SAID, ABOUT A HALF PERCENT INCREASE IN THE CURRENT YEAR TO AVERAGE OUT AT ABOUT 0.55. 
          SO REALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TWO, UH, TWO DIFFERENT TAX RATES WITHIN THE, THE, THE VILLAGE OR THE TOWN AND THE VILLAGE RESIDENTS MAINTAINED A PRETTY STEADY ROAD OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS. 
          SO THIS YEAR, IN SPECIFICALLY IN THE SUPERVISOR'S PROPOSED BUDGET, AS YOU CAN SEE, JUST TO BREAK DOWN WHERE WE GET TO THAT $11 AND 12 CENTS, WE START WITH THE $5 AND 20 CENTS THAT EVERY RESIDENT PAYS THOSE OUTSIDE TO PAY FOR THOSE POLICE PLANNING AND ZONING PAY, UH, $2 AND 62 CENTS FOR THAT SERVICE AND FOR THE HIGHWAY, THE TOWN ROADS WITHIN THE TOWN, UH, $3 AND 29 CENTS. 
          WHEN WE LOOK AT THOSE COMPARED TO LAST YEAR, UH, THE LAST YEAR RATES ARE, ARE, UH, $11 AND 29 CENTS FOR THE TOWN OUTSIDE VILLAGE RESIDENTS, $5 AND 18 CENTS FOR THOSE WITHIN THE VILLAGE, UH, WHICH IS, IT REPRESENTS A 17 CENTS DECREASE FOR THOSE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE OUTSIDE OF VILLAGE. 
          AND A PRETTY LEVEL INCREASE OF, OF ABOUT THREE, ONLY 3 CENTS ON EVERY, UH, $1,000 OF ASSESSED VALUE FOR THOSE RESIDENTS IN A VILLAGE. 
          WHEN WE LOOK AT THE TRENDS, UH, WE ARE, WE DISCUSSED THE FIRST BULLET HERE, THAT'S JUST THE 22 TO 21. 
          WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR 22 PROPOSED RATE FROM THE SUPERVISOR'S BUDGET COMPARED TO WHERE YOU WERE IN 13, DESPITE ALL THOSE CHALLENGES WITH THE EMPLOYER BENEFITS, YOU SEE, UH, ONLY A DOLLAR AND 58 CENTS HIGHER THAN WHERE THAT RATE WAS BACK THEN. 
          AND ONLY 90 CENTS DO 90 CENTS DOLLAR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, UH, FOR THE VILLAGE RESIDENTS, THE AVERAGE INCREASE OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS. 
          I DID MENTION THE PAST FIVE YEARS, BUT IF YOU SPREAD THAT OUT ANOTHER 10, IT'S 1.8 FOR THOSE RESIDENTS OUT OF THE VILLAGE AND 2.17 FOR THOSE WITHIN. 
          SO JUST LOOKING AT AND TRANSLATING THAT TO DOLLARS REALLY QUICK, UM, WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A CHART OF WHAT A TA, A TAXPAYER IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG AND THE HAMBURG SCHOOL DIS DISTRICT WOULD PAY ON AN ASSESSED VALUE OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OVER THE COURSE OF THE FEW, OVER THE COURSE OF, UH, THE LAST SIX, THE LAST ACTUAL FIVE YEARS IN THE PROPOSED SIXTH YEAR. 
          UM, SO IS A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IS WHAT YOUR ASSESSED WOULD, WHAT THIS DOES TAKE INTO EFFECT IS EQUALIZATION RATE HAS DECREASED EVERY YEAR. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, YOUR FAIR MARKET VALUE HAS INCREASED, BUT THE ASSESSED VALUE REMAINS THE SAME. 
          UM, SO WHAT THIS DOES IS KIND OF SMOOTHS WHAT THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR AN AVERAGE H HOUSEHOLDER HOUSEHOLD OF FAIR MARKET VALUE OF ABOUT $250,000 TODAY. 
          SO IF YOU OWN A HOUSE THAT'S, UH, $250,000 ON ZILLOW, UH, YOU'D EXPECT TO HAVE AN ASSESSED VALUE OF ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. 
          THE, IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, IN THE HAMBURG SCHOOL DISTRICT, THIS IS WHAT A PROPOSED TAX BILL WOULD LOOK LIKE. 
          YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UH, ABOUT $6,123 IN 22 BASED ON THIS BUDGET ACCORDING TO THE SCHOOL TAX RATES AND THE COUNTY PROPOSED BUDGET, WHICH IS, UH, ABOUT $3,900 OF THAT, ALMOST $3,400 OF THAT IS SCHOOL TAX. 
          ABOUT A THOUSAND IS COUNTY TAX, AND THE REMAINING 1000 OR 1,112 IS TOWN. 
          COMPARE THAT TO WHERE THAT, THAT SAME HOUSEHOLD WAS PAYING ABOUT $5,670 BACK IN 2017. 
          SO DIFFERENCE OF CLOSE TO 500 BUCKS, A LITTLE SOUTH OF $500. 
          MOST OF THAT, MOST OF THAT INCREASE ACTUALLY WENT TO THE TWO SCHOOL TAX BILL. 
          SCHOOL TAX WAS 36 32, 3,632. 
          IN 2017, THAT INCREASED BY ABOUT $350 TO 39 81 IN THE CURRENT YEAR. 
          MEANWHILE, THE TAX FOR THE TOWN, THE LOWER PORTION THERE WAS ABOUT 1050 $8 ON THAT HOUSEHOLD. 
          IN 2017. 
          THAT SAME HOUSE IS PAYING ABOUT $1,112 UNDER THIS PROPOSED BUDGET. 
          IT'S ABOUT A DIFFERENCE OF ABOUT CLOSE TO 50, $54. 
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UM, WHAT'S VERY INTERESTING IS THAT, THAT THIS COMPONENT OF THE TOWN, BACK IN 2017, THE TOWN COMPOSED ABOUT 18.7% OF THAT TOTAL HOUSEHOLD'S TAX BILL. 
          NOW, FAST FORWARD TO THE PROPOSED 2022, THAT PERCENTAGE HAS ACTUALLY, THAT SLICE HAS ACTUALLY DWINDLED DOWN TO 18.1. 
          SO THAT ACTUAL, THAT TAXPAYERS PAYING LESS OF A PERCENTAGE TO THE TOWN THAN THEY WERE BACK THEN. 
          UH, BASICALLY JUST SHOWING THE, THE DILIGENCE OF THIS TOWN BOARD TO KEEP THOSE RATES SOMEWHAT LEVEL FOR THE AVERAGE TAXPAYER. 
          THIS CHART SHOWS A SIMILAR SITUATION FOR A VILLAGE OF HAMBURG WITH A HAMBURG SCHOOL DISTRICT, UH, TAX BILL. 
          VERY SIMILAR SITUATION EXCEPT WE, WE REMOVE SOME OF THOSE TOWN COMPONENTS AND ADD IN A VILLAGE COMPONENT. 
          THE 2022 PROPOSED BUDGET, THAT TAXPAYER WOULD PAY ABOUT $7,722, OF WHICH 521 WOULD BE RELATED TO THE TOWN SERVICES. 
          THAT SAME HOUSEHOLD BACK IN 2017 WOULD'VE BEEN PAYING CLOSE TO $600 LESS ABOUT 7,142, BUT ONLY 492 OF THAT IS RELATED TO THE TAX. 
          SO THAT HOUSE DIDN'T EVEN INCREASE BY $30 OVER THE COURSE OF SIX YEARS. 
          AND WHY DID THAT HAPPEN? WELL, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS CHART, IT'S HARD TO SEE, I, I SUPPOSE WHAT THE, THE, THE WORDS ARE. 
          BUT THE VERY TOP TWO LINES ARE YOUR SCHOOL TAX RATE AND THE, THE RATE OF, UH, UH, OF THE, THE RATE OF CHANGE, THE INCREASING RATE, THE STEEP OF THE, THE SLOPE OF THESE GRAPHS IS JUST A LITTLE BIT STRONGER THAN THE LOWER THREE ITEMS, WHICH ARE THE TOWN RATES, THE COUNTY RATES, AND THE TOWN OUTSIDE VILLAGE RATES. 
          UH, SO THAT'S WHY THE, THE, THE SLICE OF THE PIE THAT BELONGS TO THE TOWN OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS HAS SHRUNK. 
          AND, AND THE, UH, WHILE THE, THE TOTAL TAX BILL HAS INCREASED BY A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, THE LAST FEW SLIDES THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE, UM, REALLY JUST BREAK OUT THE PERCENTAGE TAXES PAYS. 
          I, I'LL JUST BRIEFLY GO OVER 'EM, THE FIRST ONE, AND THEN WE WILL JUST KIND OF SKIM THROUGH WHAT THE OTHER ONES WILL SHOW. 
          AS I SAID, THE THE SLIDES WILL BE SHARED WITH FINANCE, AND I'M SURE THEY'LL PUT THOSE ON THE WEBSITE FOR YOUR OWN, UH, VIEWING PLEASURE. 
          BUT WHAT THIS IS, IS THAT THIS, THIS FIRST ONE SHOWS A, UH, AN AVERAGE TAXPAYER THAT LIVES IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG IN THE HAMBURG SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND 18% OF THAT TAX BILL, AS WE JUST MENTIONED, BELONGS TO THE TOWN OF HAMBURG. 
          65% OF THAT IS THE HAMBURG SCHOOLS, 17% IS THE COUNTY OF ERIE. 
          THE NEXT ONE LOOKS AT THE, UH, UH, A VILLAGE OF HAMBURG RESIDENT WITH THE HAMBURG SCHOOLS. 
          52% OF THAT TAX BILL IS HAMBURG SCHOOL, 7% IS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, 13% IS THE COUNTY OF ERIE, AND 28% IS THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURG, UH, FRONTIER SCHOOL DISTRICT IN THE, IN THE, IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, 58% FRONTIER, 22% HAMBURG, 20% ERIE. 
          AND THEN THE LAST ONE PUT THAT SAME, UH, PUT THAT TAXPAYER INTO THE VILLAGE OF BLAZEDALE IN THE FRONTIER SCHOOL DISTRICT. 
          AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT A 45% FRONTIER SCHOOLS, 32% VILLAGE OF BLAZEDALE, 15% ERIE COUNTY, AND 8% TOWN OF HAMBURG. 
          SO, UH, FOR THE MOST PART, TOWN OF HAMBURG, VERY CLOSE FOR THOSE TOWN OF OUTSIDE VILLAGE RESIDENTS TO THE COUNTY'S COMPARISON. 
          UM, AND THEN IN FOR THOSE VILLAGE RESIDENTS, THE TOWN COMPONENT IS CERTAINLY THE LESS, THE, THE LEAST AMOUNT. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THE FORMAL PRESENTATION. 
          GOOD. 
          LISTEN, GOOD JOB. 
          WELL FOLKS, THANKS YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          QUESTIONS FOR YOU? THANKS. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          NOW, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, UH, WE'VE GOT, UH, OUR FIRE COMPANIES HERE TONIGHT ALSO, UH, FOR THEIR PUBLIC HEARING. 
          UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, DO YOU MIND IF WE JUST GO ANOTHER FIVE MINUTES OR SO SO THAT WE HAD, BEFORE WE STARTED THE MEETING, WE HAD A PRESENTATION AND SOME Q AND A ON THE HAMBURG FITNESS CENTER. 
          ONE OR TWO OTHER FOLKS WANTED TO RAISE SOME QUESTIONS. 
          I'M GONNA MEET A LOT OF YOU WEDNESDAY MORNING AT THE FITNESS CENTER, BUT SOMEONE ELSE, LAURA, YOU WANTED TO ASK SOMETHING OR MAKE A COMMENT? UM, STIGMA, BUT I THINK IT'S ALL MORE POWERFUL IF WE ALL SPEAK AS A GROUP RATHER THAN A PIECEMEAL WELL, OKAY. 
          I MEAN, I DON'T WANNA, I DON'T WANNA KEEP THE FIREFIGHTERS WAITING TOO LONG, BUT GO AHEAD. 
          I DON'T MIND WAITING ON THEM, BUT IF, WELL, IT'S WHATEVER YOU WANNA DO, GO AHEAD, READ YOUR STATEMENT. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          OKAY. 
          MY NAME IS LAURA HAN AND I LIVE ON STRATFORD TERRACE AND I'M ALSO PRESIDENT OF THE LXI PARK TAXPAYER ASSOCIATION. 
          I'M HERE TONIGHT TO COMMENT ON THE POSSIBLE CLOSING OF THE FITNESS CENTER, LOCATED AT THE HAMBURG TOWN PARK. 
          AS WE ALL KNOW, THE HAMBURG TOWN PARK IS DESIGNED FOR THE USE AND ENJOYMENT OF HAMBURG RESIDENTS BECAUSE THIS PARK IS EXCLUSIVE TO HAMBURG RESIDENTS AND THE USE OF THE BUILDING IS LIMITED. 
          THE LOWER PORTION 
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SERVES, UH, BEACH GOERS WITH A BATH HOUSE AND A CONCESSION. 
          THE UPPER LEVEL IS A COMMUNITY CENTER AND PARK. 
          THE PROPERTY WAS NEVER DESIGNED TO GENERATE REVENUE FOR THE TOWN. 
          OVER THE YEARS, IT'S BEEN A DANCE HALL, ROLLER, RINK AND YOUTH CENTER, ALL FOR THE COMMUNITY AND NOT MEANT TO GENERATE REVENUE. 
          LATER IN THE 1990S, THE AMBER RECREATION DEPARTMENT, ALONG WITH LOXLEY PARK, COLLABORATED TO FIND A USE THAT WOULD BENEFIT ALL HAMBURG RESIDENTS AND IT EVOLVED INTO THE FITNESS CENTER. 
          I'M SURE MOST OTHERS WOULD VIEW THIS AS A COMMUNITY CENTER THAT JUST HAPPENS TO HAVE A GYM. 
          11 YEARS AGO, IN 2010, THE TOWN SUPERVISOR AT THE TIME ATTEMPTED TO CLOSE THE FITNESS CENTER BECAUSE IT WAS COMPETING WITH AREA GYMS. MUCH LIKE WHAT WE ARE HEARING NOW. 
          THE PLAN WAS TO REPLACE IT WITH A PARTY CENTER,  RESTRICTIONS, THE PARTY CENTER WAS NOT VIABLE. 
          IN ADDITION, LOCKS THE CART WITH OUR ATTORNEY, MET THE SUPERVISOR WALTERS, AND IT WAS AGREED THAT ALL FUTURE CHANGES AND PLANS AT THE TOWN PARK WOULD INCLUDE THE INPUT OF LUXE PARK HOMEOWNERS, HOMEOWNERS. 
          ULTIMATELY, THE FITNESS CENTER REMAINED OPEN. 
          SUPERVISOR SHAW, WHEN YOU WERE FIRST ELECTED, I MET WITH YOU IN YOUR OFFICE AND I EXPLAINED ALL THIS HISTORY TO YOU, AND I OPPRESSED UPON YOU THAT THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN LOXLEY PARK AND THE TOWN HAD BECOME VERY STRAINED. 
          YOU ASSURED ME THERE WERE NO WORRIES ON YOUR WATCH. 
          THESE LAST FOUR YEARS, THE TOWN PARK HAS BEEN GIVEN MUCH ATTENTION, AND TLC HAMBURG RESIDENTS ARE GRATEFUL. 
          IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING, WHICH BRINGS ME HERE TONIGHT TO HEAR THE TOWN BOARD IS HAVING DISCUSSIONS ON CLOSING THE FITNESS CENTER AND WILL BE DECIDING BY NOVEMBER 15TH, WHEN THE BUDGET IS ADOPTED, WE FEEL BLINDSIDED AGAIN. 
          THEREFORE, I FEEL I NEED TO SPEAK PUBLICLY ABOUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS. 
          IT IS BEING RUSHED AND WITHOUT PROPER INPUT FROM ALL ENTITIES INVOLVED, ANY FUTURE USE FOR THE BUILDING WILL NEED TO BE, WILL NEED TO APPEAR TO DEED RESTRICTIONS AND BE STRICTLY FOR HAMBURG RESIDENTS. 
          WHAT ARE THE PLANS AFTER THE FITNESS CENTER CLOSES? SHOULDN'T WE KNOW THIS BEFORE ANY DECISIONS ARE MADE? AND WHEN WE ELECT OUR TOWN BOARD, WE DO SO WITH THE HOPE THAT THEY WILL BE WEIGHING THE VALUE AND BENEFIT OF SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY VERSUS THE FINANCIAL COSTS. 
          IN MY OPINION, THE BENEFITS HERE FAR OUTWEIGH THE COSTS, AND I ASK THAT YOU RECONSIDER THIS SECTION AND KEEP THE FITNESS CENTER OPEN. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          UH, LEMME TELL YOU, LEMME UH, SAVE YOU SOME TIME AND THEN, WELL, YOU MAY NOT HAVE BEEN HERE A LITTLE BIT EARLIER, BUT HERE'S THE SCOOP. 
          HERE'S, HERE'S WHAT WE DISCUSSED. 
          INITIALLY, I HANDED OUT SOME, SOME, UH, SOME PAPERWORK TO YOU FOLKS. 
          THE HIGH WATER MARK FOR MEMBERSHIP WAS 2017. 
          WE HAD 4 23 MEMBERS. 
          TODAY WE'VE GOT 1 67. 
          IN 2017, WE TOOK IN 39,847, ALMOST 40,000. 
          IN 2020. 
          OUR REVENUE, THIS IS A PANDEMIC YEAR, MIND YOU, 9,000 7 0 8 15, YEAR TO DATE, 2021 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 5,000 5 0 7. 
          PROJECTIONS ARE THAT WE'LL GET TO AROUND 7,000. 
          THE TOTAL EXPENSES TO RUN THE CENTER ARE 77. 
          SO WE GOT 11 TO ONE RATIO OF EXPENSES TO REVENUE. 
          SO THAT GOT ME THINKING. 
          WE ALSO DID A YEAR AND A HALF OF, UH, COMMITTEE STUDY ON HOW TO PRESERVE RETAIL SPACE AND ENHANCE RETAIL, UH, POSSIBILITIES IN OUR STRIP PLAZAS, WHICH WERE OPERATING AT ABOUT 30% VACANCY RATE WITH TREMENDOUS DRAG AND ASSESSED VALUATION. 
          TO MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT, I CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT MAYBE WE HAD NOT TO CLOSE THE CENTER, BUT WE OUGHT TO REPURPOSE IT. 
          YOU MENTIONED TWO OR THREE REPURPOSES IN ITS HISTORY. 
          UH, MARTY DEKE, MY FRIEND, AND UH, JOE WENZEL, MADE THE FOLLOWING SUGGESTIONS, WHICH I'M IN FAVOR OF. 
          NOW, THE BOARD WILL ULTIMATELY PASS ON THIS OR NOT, BUT HERE'S WHAT THEY ARE. 
          AND I LEARNED THIS IN THE LAST 10 DAYS. 
          SO HERE YOU GO. 
          THERE ARE MANY RELATED PROGRAMS 
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WE COULD SET UP. 
          THIS IS DEE'S MEMO TO JOE WENZEL AND SENT TO ME. 
          THERE ARE MANY RELATED PROGRAMS WE COULD SET UP THAT WOULD BE SET UP TO ATTRACT INDIVIDUALS OF ALL AGES AND ABILITIES CLASSES IN NUTRITION. 
          WE'VE GOT A POPULATION MY AGE THAT IS INUNDATED WITH HEART TROUBLES AND TYPE TWO DIABETES CLASSES IN NUTRITION, EXERCISE, SCIENCE, MENTAL HEALTH, FIRST AID, MEDITATION, CREATIVE OUTLETS SUCH AS MINDFULNESS. 
          WE ALREADY HAVE YOGA, BUT TAI CHI AND, AND MAYBE PILATES, THAT WE CAN BECOME NOT JUST A FITNESS CENTER, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT COMPETE WITH SOME OF THE GLOSSY, UH, BIG PLACES SUCH AS CRUNCH OR OR PLANET FITNESS. 
          BUT IT BECOMES A RATHER UA UNIQUE NICHE FOR FAMILY WELLNESS AND SOCIABILITY IN ADDITION TO RECREATION. 
          I INDICATED TO AUGIE OR ONE OF ONE OF THE AUGIE'S NOT HERE ANYMORE, THAT WE WOULDN'T TAKE OUT THE, UH, EXERCISE EQUIPMENT, ALTHOUGH AUGIE SAYS WE SHOULD TAKE OUT TWO OR THREE PIECES THAT ARE PRETTY ANTIQUATED. 
          ANYWAY, THAT'S SOMETHING TO WORRY ABOUT. 
          THE POINT IS, I LEARNED SOME LESSONS. 
          SO TO RECREATE AND REINVENT IT, TO RAISE MORE MONEY, TO MAKE IT MORE PROFITABLE, TO MAKE IT BETTER. 
          'CAUSE THE MONEY WE RAISE, WE REINVEST. 
          JUST A SECOND. 
          IF I HAD TO GO FORWARD AND PASS A BUDGET OR RECOMMEND TO MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS A BUDGET BASED ON WHAT WAS TOLD TO ME BY DEPARTMENT HEADS, WHAT THEY WANT EACH DEPARTMENT HEAD, THE AVERAGE TAX INCREASE WOULD BE AROUND 20.22%. 
          IF WE GOT A BIG CROWD TONIGHT, IF I GET A TAX RATE LIKE THAT, WE NEED FIVE ROOMS THIS SIZE. 
          SO YOU GOT MY WORD, I'M GONNA MEET WITH THE FOLKS ON WEDNESDAY. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M GONNA RECOMMEND. 
          I MADE THAT JOKE ABOUT THE DARKEST HOUR. 
          DIDN'T GET TOO MANY LAUGHS. 
          BUT THE, THE GREAT LINE AT THE END OF THE MOVIE IS, UH, ONE WHO NEVER CHANGES HIS MIND, NEVER CHANGES ANYTHING. 
          WELL, I'M IN FAVOR OF CHANGING THIS AND DOING BETTER. 
          GO AHEAD, LAURA. 
          YOU WANNA SAY SOME MORE. 
          SO, AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU WILL KEEP THE FITNESS CENTER OPEN WHILE THE REINVENTING THE YEAH. 
          WE'RE NOT CLOSING IT. 
          YOU UNDERSTAND? THAT WAS NEVER THE INTENTION. 
          THAT'S ALL SPREAD OUT ON, ON, UH, UH, ON, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS YOU HAVE ELIMINATED IT FROM THE BUDGET. 
          SO IT'S  NO, NO, NO, NO. 
          RESPONDED AND THAT. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          WE'LL BE WORKING WITH ALL OF 'EM WHILE IT'S BEING REIMBURSED. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          THE REVENUE PROJECTIONS ON THE FITNESS CENTER ARE WAY OUTTA LINE. 
          $46,000 OF PROJECTED REVENUES. 
          THAT'S NONSENSE. 
          WE GET 15,000 THIS YEAR, OR WE GET 7,000 THIS YEAR AND 15 OR 20 NEXT YEAR WE'LL BE DOING WELL. 
          THE POINT IS THAT WE GOTTA DO BETTER EACH YEAR. 
          WE CAN OFFER DISCOUNTS TO PEOPLE WHO ARE GETTING THEIR PASSES TO GO DOWN TO THE BEACH. 
          MAYBE WE CAN OFFER PROGRAMS FOR BOAT LAUNCH PEOPLE. 
          IT'S GONNA BE UP TO YOU, OUR RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD, MARTY AND THE DEPARTMENT TO COME UP WITH SOME CREATIVE IDEAS. 
          WE'RE NOT CLOSING THE PLACE. 
          OKAY. 
          AT LEAST THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION I'M MAKING NOW. 
          AND I'VE LEARNED THAT FROM LISTENING TO ALL OF YOU. 
          AND I'LL LISTEN TO MORE OF YOU WEDNESDAY. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? BLESS YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WE GOTTA GET TO OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT GUYS AND GALS. 
          EIGHT 30 WEDNESDAY MORNING. 
          I GOTTA GET OUT THERE. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          JUST CLARIFY. 
          OKAY. 
          I READ SOMETHING THAT YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD, THIS WAS EARLIER. 
          YEAH. 
          WAS YOU WERE GOING TO ELIMINATE THE, SO YOU SAID YOU'VE CHANGED YOUR MIND. 
          NO, MA'AM. 
          I'M NOT GONNA DO THAT. 
          IS I, YOU ASKED ME THAT EARLIER AND I TOLD YOU, AND I'M TELLING YOU AGAIN, I JUST NEED TO HEAR IT. 
          YOU ARE HERE FOR THE SECOND TIME. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? GOD BLESS YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, HOW ABOUT OUR, OUR, OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, REPRESENTATIVES WHO ARE HERE? ANYBODY FROM LAKE SHORE? HERE? FROM LAKE SHORE? WHERE ARE YOU HERE? OKAY. 
          UH, YOU FOLKS, UH, YOU GOODNIGHT EVERYBODY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MY PLEASURE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          THANK YOU. 
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OKAY. 
          UH, OUR REPRESENTATIVES FROM LAKE SHORE. 
          YES, SIR. 
          WE GOT, UH, A BUDGETARY REQUEST FOR $546,829 LAST YEAR. 
          WE GAVE YOU 5 3500 30,000 8 5 4. 
          AND WE'RE PROPOSING A, UH, A 1.35% INCREASE, UH, ACTUALLY 3.1% OVER 21, UH, AND 538,000. 
          IS THERE ANY MORE? YOU WANNA SAY US ON THAT? THE INCREASE IS GONNA BE INCREASE OF MAINTENANCE REPAIR, ESPECIALLY ON THE EQUIPMENT OF EACH BUILDING. 
          UH, THE ELECTRONIC PCRS, WE'RE SPENDING $5,000 A YEAR ON ELECTRONIC PCR, WHICH IS THE PRE-HOSPITAL CARE REPORTS. 
          IT'S ELECTRONIC NOW. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, LET ME TELL YOU THIS TO YOU. 
          DO YOU THINK, UH, UH, DO YOU THINK THE 538,000 CAN GET YOU TO WHERE YOU NEED TO BE? 5 38? YES, SIR. 
          WE HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. 
          OF COURSE. 
          WHY DON'T YOU CALL ME? WE'LL SET UP MEETINGS BETWEEN NOW AND NOVEMBER THE 15TH. 
          YOU CAN CERTAINLY GET BACK TO ME. 
          ANYTHING ELSE, SIR? NOPE, THAT'LL DO IT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          HOW ABOUT THE SCRANTON FOLKS? I SEE MIKE QUINN HERE. 
          HEY MIKE, HOW ARE YOU? WOW. 
          ARE YOU THE GUY REPRESENTING THEM, MICHAEL? I CERTAINLY AM. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IN, UH, 2021, MICHAEL, WE GOT 503,400. 
          UH, THIS YEAR WE'RE PROPOSING TO GIVE AT LEAST MY, MY PROPOSAL WAS TO INCREASE THAT ROUGHLY 5,260 BUCKS TO 508,000. 
          YOU GUYS HAD REQUESTED FIVE 19. 
          WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU THINK? WHAT ARE WE DOING? WELL, I MEAN, WE PRESENTED A BUDGET THAT WE THOUGHT WAS, WAS REASONABLE ON THIS THROUGH THE YEAR. 
          YOU KNOW, I GUESS I WOULD, I GUESS I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, I'LL, I'LL LOOK TO THE REST OF THE BOARD MEMBERS TO, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT, TO HELP US OUT THERE. 
          CAN WE LIVE WITH WHAT YOU'RE GONNA GIVE US? OF COURSE WE CAN. 
          NOTHING, I'M NOT GONNA LIE TO YOU. 
          WE'RE GONNA DO WHAT WE CAN DO. 
          I GOTTA TALK TO THE FIRE CHIEF. 
          I GOTTA TALK TO SOME OF THE TRUSTEES, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'D EMPLOY YOU FOR, FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          UM, WE THINK WE'VE PUT TOGETHER A BUDGET THAT'S REASONABLE AND WE TRIED TO HOLD THE LINE. 
          WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU DID FOR US DURING THE PANDEMIC. 
          UM, WE TRIED TO HOLD THE LINE AND THEN WE GOT A, WE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF GROUND TO CATCH ON. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT A LARGE VEHICLE ON APPARATUS PURCHASE. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO DO THAT WITHOUT ANY INCREASE IN THE BUDGET. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO, WITH THAT, WE'RE TRYING TO, WE'RE TRYING TO PUT A LITTLE BIT OF AWAY NOW AND THEN MAKE UP FOR IT IN YEARS TO COME. 
          SO CAN WE LIVE WITH WHAT YOU'VE GIVEN US? I SUPPOSE SO. 
          I'D RATHER NOT, BUT YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I GOTTA TALK TO THE CHIEF AND THE TRUSTEE. 
          THE REST. 
          WELL, WHY DON'T YOU DO THIS, MIKE? YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY, UH, WHY NOT, UH, TALK IT OVER WITH THE CHIEF. 
          UH, AND IF YOU WANNA REACH OUT TO BOARD MEMBERS OR TO ME MM-HMM . 
          WITH MORE SPECIFIC THINGS, UH, THAT YOU COULD EITHER ELIMINATE AND INCREASE OR MIX AND MATCH. 
          YOU GOT TILL NOVEMBER THE 15TH. 
          SO WE'RE HERE TO LISTEN. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          FAIR ENOUGH. 
          OKAY. 
          HOW ABOUT OUR BUDDIES AT BIG TREE? AH, MR. STROBEL, HOW ARE YOU? FINE. 
          HOW ARE YOURSELF? GOOD. 
          SO WHAT DO YOU THINK WE GOT YOU DONE? YOU, UH, LAST YEAR YOU GOT 510,189 THIS YEAR WE PROPOSED 515,000 2 91. 
          YOU'RE LOOKING TO GET 5 23. 
          NINE SEVEN. 
          I DIDN'T DO ANY GREAT MATH HERE. 
          I JUST KIND OF TWO ADDED THEM UP AND DIVIDED BY TWO. 
          WHAT DO YOU THINK? WELL, WE'RE JUST ASKING THROUGH THE, UM, AS WE ALWAYS DO EVERY YEAR IS OUR 2%, UH, INCREASE. 
          OKAY. 
          WE FOLLOW OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS, UM, THAT DOING OUR BUDGET, TRYING TO HOLD A LINE THAT WE, THAT WE LIKE TO DO FOR OUR TAXPAYERS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WE FIND THAT SOME OF OUR RESERVE ACCOUNTS ARE SUFFERING, UM, THE, OF THE EQUIPMENT, UM, BECAUSE EVERYBODY PROBABLY KNOWS WE BOUGHT FOOD RIGHT. 
          IN PUMPS AND DOING THAT PROCESS, WE TRY TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, HOW WE'RE GONNA ACCUMULATE THAT MONEY. 
          WELL, RIGHT NOW WE'RE HOLDING THOSE LINES GREAT AS IT HAS BEEN FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS WITHOUT ANY INCREASE. 
          AND DURING THAT PROCESS OF PURCHASING THE NEW EQUIPMENT, WE FIND THAT IN OUR PROJECTIONS, WE'RE GONNA BE WELL SHORT OF NOT JUST OUR ENGINES WILL BE SHORT FOR OUR SCBAS, OUR TURNOUT GEAR, OUR AMBULANCE REPLACEMENTS. 
          WE'RE FINDING THAT THOSE ARE STAYING THE SAME, BUT THE COST OF THOSE KEEP GOING UP. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY GROUND, WE'RE LOSING GROUND IN THAT ASPECT. 
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WE'RE HOLDING THE LINE AS FAR AS THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE FIRE BUDGET, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO WORK WITHIN OUR MEANS JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. 
          WE ALL HAVE OUR BUDGETS. 
          CAN WE DO A LITTLE BIT MORE? CAN WE ASK FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE? YES, WE CAN. 
          OUR CALL VOLUME IS PROJECTED TO BE OVER 1400 CALLS JUST FOR TREE'S FIRE DISTRICT. 
          NOW, THAT'S A LOT MORE THAN IT HAS BEEN THE PAST TWO TO THREE YEARS. 
          UM, OUR, OUR DISTRICT KEEPS GROWING NOT ONLY WITH JUST BUILDINGS, BUT WITH THE POPULATION. 
          SO THAT INCREASES WITH ALL THOSE INCREASES, INCREASES. 
          OUR COLORADO, WE'RE TRYING TO DO OUR PART TO KEEP OUR TAX RATES DOWN WITH FUNDRAISING. 
          WE'RE DOING CHICKEN BARBECUES, WE'RE DOING MEAT RAFFLES. 
          WE'RE DOING, UH, OUR ANNUAL FUND DRIVE, WHICH WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THAT TAX INCOME. 
          WE'LL NOT HAVE TO ASK FOR THAT EXTRA MONEY, BUT WE'RE STILL FINDING OURSELVES SHORT OF THAT GOING INTO OUR RESERVE ACCOUNT. 
          SO CAN WE USE, UM, WILL WE WORK WITHIN OUR MEANS? ABSOLUTELY. 
          BUT WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING TOWARD THE FUTURE. 
          WHAT ARE WE GONNA HAVE TO SPEND IN 10 YEARS OR EVEN FIVE YEARS WHEN WE HAVE TO REPLACE OUR ANNUAL? IS THAT BUDGET, IS THAT MONEY IN OUR RESERVE ACCOUNT GONNA BE ENOUGH TO BUY A ? WE JUST BOUGHT TWO BRAND NEW PUMPERS, SO HOPEFULLY WE'RE GOOD FOR ANOTHER 20 YEARS. 
          20 OR 25 YEARS. 
          THAT'S HOW OLD OUR, OUR OLD ENGINES WERE ALMOST 20 YEARS OLD. 
          THE OTHER ONE WAS 25. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UH, WE'VE WE'RE $10,000 SHORT OF WHERE YOU REQUESTED TO BE ROUGHLY SPEAKING. 
          SO WHY DON'T WE DO THIS? WHY DON'T I THINK IT OVER THE BOARD MEMBERS CAN THINK IT OVER. 
          WE GOT TILL THE 15TH OF NOVEMBER. 
          I KNOW YOUR PHONE NUMBER, SO I'LL GIVE YOU A CALL. 
          WE'LL TALK IN GREATER DETAIL. 
          SEE, ONE OF THE TOUGH THINGS WE GOT . 
          WHEN WE LOOK AT THE MOST OF THE FIRE COMPANY BUDGETS, HONESTLY, THEY'RE ON ONE SHEET. 
          YOU KNOW, ITEM FOUR, UH, 52,000 FOR MATIC EQUIPMENT. 
          ITEM 13, UH, 22,000 FOR INSURANCE. 
          IT'S HARD TO KNOW WHAT IS ESSENTIAL, WHAT'S RESERVED, WHAT'S, IT'S HARD TO PICK IT UP ON ONE SHEET. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO TALK WITH YOU ABOUT IT, AND IF WE COULD SQUEEZE OUT ANOTHER 10, WE WOULD DO IT. 
          WE'D, UH, WE'D APPRECIATE THAT. 
          OKAY, SIR, WE'D, UM, ENCOURAGE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN. 
          I'LL CALL YOU, UH, I'LL CALL YOU, UH, THIS WEEK OR BY NEXT MONDAY OR TUESDAY. 
          HOW'S THAT? NO, LATER. 
          ALRIGHT SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANKS. 
          HOW ABOUT OUR BUDDIES AT ARMOR? ARE THEY HERE? WELL, THE REPRESENTATIVE IS JASON NEWELL. 
          HOW YOU DOING JASON? GOOD. 
          UH, JASON NEWELL, UH, COULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE HE HAD A DEPUTY SAMPLE. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I'M HERE WITH THE CHIEF. 
          I'M VICE PRESIDENT PAUL ZUEL. 
          AND, UM, I'M HERE TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. 
          WELL, I, UH, I, I THOUGHT ABOUT IT WITH ONLY PERSON I WENT OVER WITH WAS KIM SANA, OUR ASSISTANT FINANCE DIRECTOR. 
          AND YOU GENTLEMEN HAD ASKED FOR, UH, YOU LAST YEAR YOU HAD 289,300. 
          UH, I CAME UP WITH 294,000 8 82, WHICH IS A ONE POINT, UH, NINE 3% INCREASE. 
          ALMOST TWO. 
          YOU GENTLEMEN WOULD LIKE TO GET ANOTHER, ANOTHER $5,100 FOR NEXT YEAR. 
          SO AGAIN, I, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER MY RESPONSE TO YOUR REQUEST IS REASONABLE. 
          I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW, BUT I'M CERTAINLY WILLING TO LISTEN, UH, AS I'M SURE THE BOARD MEMBERS ARE. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, YOU'RE LOOKING TO GET WHAT AMOUNTS TO ALMOST SIX SIX, A LITTLE MORE THAN $6,000 IN, UH, IN ADDITIONAL FUNDING. 
          SO LET, LET'S, IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, THAT ISN'T A LOT OF MONEY, UH, UH, IN A $49 MILLION BUDGET. 
          SO WE'LL GIVE IT SOME THOUGHT AND I'LL MAKE A NOTE TO CALL YOU TOO. 
          HOW'S THAT? OR CALL THE CHIEF. 
          DO YOU WANT ANY OF THE INFORMATION? BECAUSE I GIVE YOU SOMETHING THAT MIGHT HELP YOU WITH THAT DECISION? WELL, YOU, UH, IF YOU'VE GOT IT TONIGHT, I GOT, AND YOU DON'T MIND WAITING, YOU CAN GIVE IT TO, UH, UH, KIM, UH, ANA, THE YOUNG LADY HERE WITH THE GLASSES ON AT THE END OF THE TABLE, AND WE'LL GO OVER IT AND THEN WE'LL CALL YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANKS. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, WELL, HOW ABOUT NEWTON ABBOTT? GOOD EVENING. 
          BRIAN, VICE PRESIDENT JIM NAVIT. 
          HI BRIAN. 
          HOW ARE YOU? FINE, SIR. 
          WELL, BRIAN, WE GOT YOU DOWN FOR, YOU WANTED 4 74, 4 70 $4,031, AND, UH, I'M SORRY, THAT WAS LAST YEAR. 
          FOUR, UH, FOUR $74,031. 
          YOU A, YOU ASKED FOR 4 83, 5 11, WE INCREASED YOU BY 1%. 
          WE WENT TO FOUR 78,771. 
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LAST YEAR WAS A FLAT YEAR WITH THE PANDEMIC. 
          AND I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU GUYS, UH, HAVE SOME PENT UP DEMAND. 
          IT'S SOME PENT UP NEEDS. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UH, SO WE'RE ABOUT, LOOKS TO ME LIKE, UH, A LITTLE LESS THAN $5,000 OFF WHERE YOU WANNA BE. 
          THAT THAT IS CORRECT. 
          IT, EVERY YEAR, LIKE EVERY OTHER DEPARTMENT, WE GO THROUGH OUR BUDGET WITH A FINE TOOTH CONE AND SEE WHERE WE CAN SAVE MONEY, WHERE WE CAN HOLD BACK. 
          WE MANAGED TO DO THAT LAST YEAR, THE PANDEMIC THIS YEAR, THINGS ARE CATCHING UP WITH US A LITTLE BIT. 
          YEAH. 
          JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER PAID COMPANY OUT THERE AND EVERY OTHER VOLUNTEER COMPANY, WE'RE STRUGGLING IN MEMBERSHIP. 
          WE'RE LOOKING FOR EXTRA MONEY FOR RECRUITMENT. 
          UH, WE GOT THE EMS, THE ELECTRONIC EMS AS WELL. 
          THAT'S $5,000 A YEAR. 
          SO WE JUST TOOK THAT ON THIS YEAR. 
          SO THERE ARE EXTRA COSTS. 
          AND THE WAY WE LOOK AT IT IS WE DIDN'T ASK FOR ANYTHING LAST YEAR BETWEEN LAST YEAR, AND THIS SHOULD BE 1% A YEAR. 
          AND I REALLY THINK THAT THE 2% WE ASKED FOR IS, UH, UH, IT, IT IS VERY MINUTE COMPARED TO THE, THE BUDGET THAT THE TOWN HAS. 
          AND WE, AGAIN, WE TRIED, WE LOOK AT EVERYTHING WE CAN TO SAVE MONEY TO HOLD BACK. 
          WHERE CAN WE CUT? BUT THE, THE COST RIGHT THERE IS A 5.4% INFLATION ACROSS THE, THE ENTIRE NATION. 
          AND WE'RE ASKING 14%. 
          OKAY. 
          I GET YOU. 
          WELL, WE GOT TILL NOVEMBER THE 15TH TO, UH, TO COME TO A, A MEETING OF THE MINES. 
          SO I GUESS, WE'LL, IF YOU WANT TO CALL ME, YOU WANT ME TO CALL YOU, UH, WE'LL DO WHATEVER HAS TO BE DONE AND WE'LL TALK IT OVER A LITTLE BIT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'LL DO THAT. 
          I'M GLAD, I'LL BE GLAD TO DO IT. 
          OKAY. 
          THE SAME WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS. 
          YOU'RE FREE TO CALL ANYBODY YOU WANT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          YES, SIR. 
          HOW ABOUT MY FRIENDS FROM WOODLAWN? YES. 
          ALL WE'LL, PRESIDENT WOODLAWN. 
          WELL, YOU WANTED FOUR 15. 
          WE GAVE YOU 515. 
          ONLY KIDDING . 
          HOW ABOUT THAT? WHAT SMOKING WE GAVE 240. 
          I'M SORRY, WE GAVE YOU FOUR 11. 
          SO WE ARE ALL, WELL, WE'RE ABOUT $4,000 SHORT. 
          YOU GOT A 2% RAISE. 
          SO WHAT DO YOU THINK? UH, TOO MUCH. 
          WE GAVE YOU TOO MUCH  NICE TOO. 
          BUT, UH, NO, I, UH, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. 
          UM, MAYBE WOULD'VE A LITTLE BIT BETTER. 
          WOULD'VE MANY HALL RENOVATIONS, UH, EQUIPMENT FOR THE MEMBERS. 
          IT'S DULY APPRECIATED. 
          WHATEVER YOU CAN'T PROVIDE FOR US, LEMME TELL YOU SOMETHING. 
          WHAT YOU DO IS DULY APPRECIATED. 
          YOU GUYS ARE PHENOMENAL GUYS. 
          UH, AND I'M GRATEFUL TO YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          FREE TIME. 
          OKAY. 
          HOW ABOUT THE LAKEVIEW GUYS? ANY LAKEVIEW FOLKS HERE? OKAY, WELL, LAKEVIEW, UM, LAKEVIEW ASKED FOR $70,000 LAST YEAR. 
          THEY GOT 69 THIS YEAR. 
          THEY GOT 70,000. 
          THEY'RE SHORT 700 BUCKS. 
          SO THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT EARTH SHATTERING. 
          NOW, WE DO MAKE CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURG FIRE DEPARTMENT TOO. 
          THEY REQUESTED, UH, 1 74 8 2 2. 
          AND LAST YEAR THEY GOT 176 17. 
          WE SAID TO THEM, YOU GET 173,948, WHICH IS ABOUT, UH, 900 AND SOME ODD DOLLARS LESS THAN YOU ASKED FOR. 
          SO YOU GOT A 1.95% INCREASE OVER 2021. 
          WHAT DO YOU THINK? ? UH, TREASURER. 
          YES, SIR. 
          YES, SIR. 
          UM, YEAH, I'M SURE I DON'T NEED TO REMIND YOU GUYS. 
          THERE WAS NO INCREASE OR DECREASE LAST YEAR, OBVIOUSLY, UH, WITH US. 
          I THINK MOST OF THE DEPARTMENTS HERE TALKED ABOUT LAST YEAR, UH, STRUGGLES WITH FUNDRAISING. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, THAT WE'VE, UH, ALL KIND OF INCURRED. 
          UM, WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO SEE THAT KIND OF RETURN TO, TO NORMAL. 
          UM, NOT QUITE THERE WITH, UH, IN THAT RESPECT. 
          UM, HOWEVER, WE ARE SEEING OUR CONTINUING TREND, UM, YEAR OVER YEAR INCREASE IN CALLS. 
          UM, SO FIRE AND ESPECIALLY OUR FIRST DAY CALLS, UH, WE'RE ON TRACK, UH, TO HAVE 1500 CALLS ROUGHLY DISPATCHED FOR US. 
          UM, THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURG FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS RESPONDED TO ALMOST FIVE SINGLE CALL THAT WE'VE HAD EITHER IN THE VILLAGE OR MUTUAL AID. 
          UM, WE HAVE THE HIGHEST RESPONSE RATE OF ALL THE TOWN DEPARTMENTS. 
          WE ALSO HAVE THE HIGHEST TRANSPORT RATE OF ALL DEPARTMENTS, MEANING THAT, UH, WE TRANSPORT PEOPLE THAT NEED FIRST DAY CALLS IN OUR INFLUENCE, UH, TO THE HOSPITALS RATHER THAN RELYING 
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ON RURAL METRO OR A MR OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. 
          UM, WE HAVE, UH, WE'VE SEEN COST INCREASE, UH, FOR EQUIPMENT THAT WE NEED FOR OUR MEMBERS. 
          UM, AS YOU MIGHT AS WELL KNOW, UH, WE JUST PURCHASED OUR, UH, NEW TRUCK, OUR LADDER TRUCK. 
          UM, SO THE DEPARTMENT MENTIONED WE'VE SEEN A DIP IN THAT RESERVE. 
          UM, WE WILL BE LOOKING AT A NEW AMBULANCE IN THE UPCOMING YEARS. 
          UM, AND OBVIOUSLY THAT'S KIND OF THE, THE BREAD AND BUTTER OF OUR DEPARTMENT. 
          THAT'S ABOUT 85 9% OF THE CALLS, UH, THAT WE HAVE. 
          UM, IS YOUR PROPOSED PERCENTAGE, UH, THAT, UH, MATERIAL FROM WHAT WE ASKED FOR NOTE? UH, BUT JUST TO KEEP THAT IN MIND, UH, WE'VE ALSO BEEN FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO START A US PROGRAM. 
          SO THAT'S OUR THERMAL DRONE IN WHICH WE'VE ASSISTED THE TOWN AND VILLAGE POLICE AND OUR NEIGHBOR DEPARTMENTS, UH, WITH THERMAL CAPABILITIES AND SEARCH AND RESCUE. 
          UH, SO THAT'S, AGAIN, THAT'S ANOTHER EXPENSE WE'VE HEARD. 
          UH, THAT'S KIND OF A MUTUAL BENEFIT FOR EVERYBODY. 
          SO I'M JUST ASK, UH, ASKING YOU IN THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, JUST TO RECONSIDER OUR, UH, PROPOSED PERCENTAGE OF TWO AND A HALF. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          I, I THINK YOU WERE AT 174,000 8 22 AND WE CAME BACK AND SAID WE THOUGHT 173,948 WOULD DO IT. 
          SURE. 
          WELL, WE'LL LISTEN, UH, NOTHING'S WRITTEN IN STONE. 
          THIS IS, UH, THIS IS A DRAFT ONLY, IT'S A TENTATIVE BUDGET. 
          SO, UH, WHY DON'T WE TRY TO DO SOME TALKING BETWEEN NOW AND NOVEMBER 15TH. 
          YOU GOT IT. 
          THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. 
          HEY, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR US. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYTHING ELSE ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT? FIRE COMPANY BUDGET, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I HAVE ONE QUESTION. 
          PLEASE. 
          HAVE, HAVE ALL THE COMPANIES SWITCHED OVER TO THE ELECTRONIC PCRS? WE HAD TO, YES. 
          GOT IT. 
          SO EVERYBODY HAD TO DO IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          THE YEARS PAID MAINTENANCE PROGRAM,  AND THE CLOUD. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WHAT WOULD BE THE, THE TOTAL AMOUNT, UM, I REMEMBER US DOING THIS IN A PREVIOUS BUDGET. 
          IF WE WERE TO MEET ALL OF THEIR REQUESTED, UM, AMOUNTS, WHAT WOULD, WHAT WOULD THE INCREASE BE? THE COMPANIES OR THE, THE SECOND QUESTION THAT WOULD BE, IF WE WENT WITH THE 2%, HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL MONEY WOULD IT BE? WELL, I'D HAVE TO DO SOME QUICK MATH HERE. 
          YOU DON'T TURN ON MY CALCULATOR. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          I GOT AT 40. 
          SO ALL OF THE REQUESTS, IT WOULD BE AN ACTUAL 40. 
          AN ADDITIONAL 40,000. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WAS KIND OF THINKING TOO. 
          YOU TALK ABOUT 2%. 
          EVERYBODY CERTAINLY FACED THE SAME CHALLENGES BETWEEN RECRUITMENT CHALLENGES, FUNDRAISING, NEW EXPENDITURES WITH NEW REQUIREMENTS. 
          AND I'M, AND I'M HEARING A LOT OF 2%, SOMEONE UP AS FIVE. 
          SOME ARE MM-HMM . 
          SAME REQUESTS, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S, UH, SO THAT WOULD BE TWO OPTIONS FOR US. 
          I EITHER TO, YOU KNOW, GUARANTEE THE 2% ACROSS THE BOARD OR TWO, PRINT THE REQUESTS AT AN ADDITIONAL 40,000. 
          WELL, WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT, UH, 3%, 3, 2, 4, 2, 3, 2, 2, 2 AND A HALF. 
          SO THERE'S CRAZY OVER TWO. 
          SO THEN REALLY IT'S THE PLAN FOR MEETING ALL THE REQUESTS. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE 40,000. 
          YEAH, WE'RE LOOKING AT 40,000 TO MEET THE REQUESTS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YEAH. 
          SO WHY DON'T WE DO THIS, UH, GENTLEMEN AND LADIES, UH, WHY DON'T WE GIVE IT SOME THOUGHT. 
          I'VE GOTTA MAKE A FEW PHONE CALLS TO EACH OF YOU. 
          I TOLD BIG TREE ARMOR, NEWTON ABBOTT BE CALLING YOU. 
          UH, SO WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. 
          WE'LL DEBATE IT, TALK TO YOU IN BETWEEN NOW AND THE 15TH. 
          WE'LL COME TO AN UNDERSTANDING. 
          HOW'S THAT? FAIR ENOUGH. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR US. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          GOODNIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, UH, WE JUST HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING, I GUESS, UH, ON THE, UH, ON THE, UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE ON THE AGENDA. 
          I MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THEN, MR. MAKE A MOTION. 
          YEAH, THAT'S AN ORDER. 
          I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, NUMBER FOUR IS THE, UH, LEGAL NOTICE ON THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET AS IT RELATES TO ELECTED OFFICIALS IN PAYING THEM. 
          THE TOWN JUSTICES, UH, GET, UH, NO RAISE THIS YEAR. 
          THEY'RE AT 61,000 4 4 2. 
          HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENT IS AN 81,000 206 6. 
          TOWN CLERK IS AT 76,870. 
          THESE ARE WITHOUT STIPENDS. 
          THE FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE AT 19,210, AND THE SUPERVISOR'S AT 182,123 82,123. 
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NOBODY GETS A PAY RAISE HERE, FOLKS, SO MAYBE POUND THE TABLE FOR 2%. 
          ANYWAY, THAT'S THAT ONE. 
          IS THERE ANY, ANYBODY WANNA MAKE ANY COMMENTS ON THAT? MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT SECOND. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ITEM NUMBER FIVE, RESULT OF THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD IS HEREBY APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS AS FOLLOWS. 
          9 27 20 21 MINUTES OF SESSION AND TEN FOUR TWENTY. 
          21 MINUTES OF REGULAR SESSION. 
          SO MOVED. 
          SECOND ON THE QUESTION. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          BE RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD DESIGNATES SUNDAY 10 31 AS THE OFFICIAL TRICK OR TREAT NIGHT IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG FROM 5:00 PM UNTIL 8:00 PM IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND. 
          SECOND, UH, THE QUESTION. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          RESULT OF THE HAMMER COME BOARD THIS HEREBY APPROVE THE CHANGES AS DESCRIBED IN THE CAF ATTACHED. 
          AND THAT IS FOR THE CLERK'S OFFICE IN THE ATTACHMENTS. 
          SO SECOND, SECOND ON THE QUESTION. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. 
          A AYE. 
          YOUR MOTION IS CARRIED. 
          HERE IS ALL THE TOM BOARD APPROVED THE TERMINATION OF PERSONNEL FOR THE BEACH, SECURITY AS FOLLOWS. 
          AND THE PAF WITH, UH, OFFICER JOE O'BRIEN. 
          SO MOVED. 
          SECOND. 
          SECOND, UH, ON THE QUESTION. 
          ANYONE? OKAY. 
          UH, UH, AYE. 
          HI. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          I MISSED THE, I SORRY. 
          JUST KIND OF ASSUMED THAT EVERYBODY'S ON BOARD WITH JOE HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          SORRY. 
          THE IS ALL THE TOWN BOARD APPROVED BY THE APPROVED DETERMINATION AND HIRING OF PERSONNEL FOR THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE DEPARTMENT AS FOLLOWS. 
          AND THE ATTACHED PAF SO MOVED SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, ON THE QUESTION. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AWARE THE BUILDINGS GROUNDS DEPARTMENT IS AN OPENING FOR THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT OPERATOR, A SPECIAL LABORER, AND A FULL-TIME LABORER. 
          AND EACH JOB HAS BEEN POSTED AND SIGNED, BE IT RESOLVED AND THE TOWN BOARD APPROVES THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT OPERATOR BID TO BRIAN STEWART. 
          SPECIAL LABORER BID TO SEAN MCLAUGHLIN AND A FULL-TIME LABORER'S POSITION TO CHARLES KUKA. 
          BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVES THE HIRING AND TERMINATION OF FOLLOWING BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS EMPLOYEES. 
          AND THAT IS THEY'RE DESIGNATED ON THE PAF, EXCUSE ME, WHICH IS ATTACHED DEALING WITH TERMINATION. 
          AND START DATES FOR PART-TIME LABORERS ON THIS QUESTION. 
          ANYBODY? ALRIGHT. 
          UM, I NEED A SECOND. 
          NEED A SECOND? I'M SORRY. 
          SECOND. 
          ANYBODY SECOND? SECOND. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, ON THE QUESTION. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MOTION IS ADOPTED. 
          YOU WANNA READ CONNELLY? UH, IT DOESN'T MATTER. 
          UH, I'LL READ IT. 
          THEORY. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          THEORY. 
          OKAY. 
          BE RESOLVED AT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVED THE TERMINATION AND HIRING OF PERSONNEL FOR THE YOUTH RECREATION AND SENIOR SERVICES DEPARTMENT AS FOLLOWS. 
          THEY'RE LISTED. 
          SO MOVED. 
          SECOND ON THE QUESTION. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OKAY. 
          THE RESOLUTION IS ADAPTED HERE. 
          RESOLVED THE TOWN BOARD APPROVED THE TERMINATION HIRING OF PERSONNEL FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCH DEPARTMENT AND THE ATTACHED PAF. 
          SO MOVED. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL ON THE QUESTION. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. 
          MOTION IS ADOPTED. 
          UH, RESOLVE OF THE TOWN BOARD, APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF ONE NEW AND USED 2022 TRANSIT. 
          THREE 50 CARGO RW D SUPERVISOR? YES, SIR. 
          YOU'RE JUST THE 1313 MOUNT VERNON CONSENT. 
          OH OH OH OH. 
          SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          UH, THAT'S SHAW TOO, HUH? OKAY. 
          WHERE IS THE TOWN OF HAM? UH, HAS BEEN UNDER AN ORDER ON CONSENT BY THE NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENT AND CONSERVATION SINCE 2001 FOR SANITARY SEWER OVERFLOWS FROM THE MOUNT VERNON SEWER DISTRICT. 
          AND WHEREAS THE ORDER DOES NOT REFLECT THE CURRENT EFFORTS NOR THE CURRENT STATE REQUIREMENTS FOR ABATEMENT OF THE SSOS. 
          AND WHEREAS THE TOWN AUTHORIZED GHD CONSULTING SERVICES TO PERFORM A SANITARY SEWER STUDY AND SUBMIT A FINAL REPORT TO THE NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENT AND CONSERVATION. 
          AND WHEREAS THE REPORT SUBMITTED TO THE NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENT CONSERVATION OUTLINES THE LONG-TERM NEEDS REQUIREMENTS AND SCHEDULE FOR ABATEMENT OF SSOS IN MOUNT VERNON. 
          AND WHEREAS NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENT AND CONSERVATION IS PREPARED A NEW ORDER ON CONSENT FOR THE TOWN IN LINE WITH THE REPORT, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED WITH TOM BOARD AUTHORIZES THE SUPERVISOR TO SIGN THE ORDER ON CONSENT WITH THE NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENT AND CONSERVATION. 
          I DON'T HAVE THE ORDER ATTACHED TO THIS 
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RESOLUTION, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE CONTENTS OF THE ORDER ARE. 
          UH, BUT A CONSENT DECREE HAS ALREADY BEEN RE ESTABLISHED. 
          UH, CAN YOU SAY ANYTHING? TELL US ABOUT THIS. 
          UM, BASICALLY THE REPORT THAT GHD PREPARED LAST YEAR AND SUBMITTED BEEN ALMOST A YEAR EXACTLY SINCE WE SUBMITTED IT. 
          UH, THE, UH, DC TOOK THE SCHEDULE, PROPOSED RIGHT VERBATIM FROM THAT REPORT AND MADE IT THE SCHEDULED, UM, THE SCHEDULE FOR THIS ORDER ON CONSENT. 
          SO IT FOLLOWS EXACTLY WHAT GHD UH, RECOMMENDED BASED ON AN EVALUATION OF THE SYSTEM IN MOUNT FURTHER. 
          ALRIGHT, SO WHEN I GET THE CONSENT ORDER, I'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH IT WITH YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S, THAT IT ACCURATELY REFLECTS THE UNDERSTANDING IT WAS REACHED, RIGHT? YES. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, WELL ON THAT BASIS, WE GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          ALL RIGHT ON THE QUESTION. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. 
          AYE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THE RESOLUTION'S ADAPTED NOW ONTO THE VEHICLE RESOLVE. 
          THE TOM BOARD APPROVED THE PURCHASE OF ONE NEW AND UNUSED 2022 TRANSIT, THREE 50 CARGO RWD HIGH ROOF EXTENSION VAN FROM WEST HER FORD FOR THE PRICE OF 50 1007 7 9 43. 
          FUNDING FOR THE VEHICLE IS CONTINGENT ON A LEGISLATIVE GRANT OF $26,779 AND 43 CENTS. 
          AND WITH THANKS TO WEST HER AUTOMOTIVE GROUP FOR THEIR DONATION OF 25,000 FUNDS FOR THIS VEHICLE ARE IN B 3 1 2 OH 0.202 MOTOR VEHICLES. 
          IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? ONE SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          MS. HOGAN THE QUESTION. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. 
          A AYE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, YOU RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURGER ADOPT THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS INDICATED ON THE ATTACHED LETTER OF AUTHORIZATION AS PART OF THE 2022 TOWN OF HAMBURG BUDGET. 
          THE ATTACHMENTS TOTAL $74,793, WHICH ARE INVOICES CHARGED TO CERTAIN SBL NUMBERS IN THE TOWN WHEN THE TOWN HAD TO GO IN AND DO REMEDIAL WORK TO BRING THE PROPERTIES TO CODE. 
          AND ALSO FOR TWO DEMOLITIONS AT 45 11 CAMP ROAD AND 3 6 4 9 LAKE AVENUE IN WOODLAWN. 
          UH, IS A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS? IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          SECOND IS MR. PETRI ON THE QUESTION. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. 
          AYE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TO ADVERTISE BIDS FOR THE FOLLOWING 2021 CDBG PROJECT ACCESSIBILITY MODIFICATIONS AT HAMBURG TOWN HALL. 
          FUNDING IS AVAILABLE IN CD 47 8 6 6 2 0.362. 
          SO MOVED SECOND. 
          ALRIGHT, UH, ON THE QUESTION, ANYONE? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED. 
          MOTION TO TABLE 17. 
          MR. UH, BERI, UH, MAKES A MOTION TO TABLE 17. 
          SECOND, I'LL SECOND. 
          I'LL SECOND THAT, UH, PENDING FURTHER INFORMATION FROM THE TOWN ATTORNEY. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          RESOLUTIONS ADOPTED. 
          OKAY, GO AHEAD MICHAEL. 
          UH, BE IT RESOLVED. 
          THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT TO SEND OUT A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR AN LED SIGN. 
          WE ARE CONSIDERING FOR INSTALLATION AT HAMBURG TOWN PARK. 
          THE SIGN IF INSTALLED, WILL PROVIDE PERTINENT INFORMATION FOR BEACH GOERS ENTERING THE PARK. 
          SO MOVED. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          QUESTION? ANYONE? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE RESOLUTION. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, GO AHEAD MR. CHER. 
          OKAY. 
          WE RESOLVED THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZED JOHN SODA TO VIRTUALLY ATTEND THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE FOR YOUTH SPORTS CONGRESS. 
          JOHN IS A CERTIFIED YOUTH SPORTS ADMINISTRATOR FOR OUR DEPARTMENT AND NEEDS CONTINUING EDUCATION CREDITS TO MAINTAIN HIS ACTIVE STATS. 
          THE TOWN OF HAMBURG REPARATION DEPARTMENT HAS OFFERED NAYS PROGRAMMING IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR 33 YEARS IN AN EFFORT TO ASSIST OUR YOUTH, LOCAL YOUTH SUPPORT PARTNERS. 
          THE NAYS PROGRAMMING IN OUR, I'M SORRY. 
          THE RESOURCES PROVIDED BY NAYS HAS GREATLY ENHANCED THE QUALITY OF YOUTH SPORTS PROGRAMMING IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          ATTACHED IS THE BACKUP DOCUMENTATION BY THE CLERK'S OFFICE, WHICH IS REQUIRED. 
          SO MOVED. 
          SECOND. 
          ALRIGHT, UH, ON THE QUESTION. 
          ANYONE ALL IN FAVOR? PLEASE SAY AYE. 
          A AYE. 
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OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, NEXT ONE? YEP. 
          OKAY, BE RESOLVED. 
          THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZED TIM JEROME TO ATTEND THE 2021 NATIONAL ALLIANCE FOR YOUTH SPORTS CONGRESS IN SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS FROM OCTOBER 25TH, 21 TO 10 29 21. 
          TIM IS A MEMBER OF THE NAS ADVISORY BOARD AND FOR THAT REASON, HE WILL HAVE HIS REGISTRATION FEE WAIVED, WHICH IS A VALUE OF $299. 
          ALL TRAVEL EXPENSES, TRAVEL, LODGING MEALS WILL BE COVERED BY THE WESTERN NEW YORK AMATEUR FOOTBALL ALLIANCE FOR WHICH TIM IS THE PRESIDENT. 
          SO MOVED. 
          SECOND. 
          ALRIGHT, THE MOTION IS SECONDED, UH, ON THE QUESTION. 
          ANYONE? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY, AYE. 
          A RESOLUTION IS A DUCK, WHEREAS THE ERIE COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY IS PLANNING TO INSTALL AN APPROXIMATELY 350 FOOT LONG EIGHT INCH DIAMETER WATER MAIN EXTENSION WITHIN THEIR DIRECT SERVICE AREA ON THE NORTH SIDE OF SOUTHWESTERN BOULEVARD, EAST OF BROMPTON ROAD AT 40 30 SOUTHWESTERN BOULEVARD. 
          AND WHEREAS THE ERIE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT REQUIRES THAT ONE FIRE HYDRANT BE INSTALLED ALONG THE WATER MAIN EXTENSION TO PROVIDE FOR PROPER FIRE PROTECTION IN THE AREA. 
          AND WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING A HYDRANT FEE TO ECWA FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR OF HYDRANTS, WHICH IS CURRENTLY $229 AND 8 CENTS PER YEAR FOR EACH HYDRANT LOCATED WITHIN ECWA DIRECT SERVICE AREAS, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVES THE INSTALLATION OF THE SUBJECT HYDRANT AND AGREES TO PAY THE ANNUAL FEE ASSOCIATED WITH SUCH, BE FURTHER RESOLVED THAT A CER CERTIFIED COPY OF THIS RESOLUTION BE SENT TO ERIE COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY. 
          SO MOVED SECOND ON THE QUESTION. 
          ANYBODY? ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          RESOLUTION IS CARRIED, WHEREAS THE NEW YORK STATE CONTROLLER HAS COMMENCED A RISK ASSESSMENT RELATIVE TO FINANCIAL PRACTICES WITHIN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG'S FINANCE DEPARTMENT, AND WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG POLICE HAVE REFERRED ITS CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION OF ALLEGED MISAPPROPRIATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH TOWN CREDIT CARDS AND PAYROLL PRACTICES TO THE NEW YORK STATE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG REQUESTS THAT THE NEW YORK STATE COMPTROLLER OR THE NEW YORK STATE POLICE CONDUCT A FORENSIC AUDIT OF ALL MUNICIPAL FINANCIAL PRACTICES, INCLUDING PROCEDURES FOR INVENTORY CONTROL AND THE PROPER ACCOUNTING FOR ALL EXPENDITURES, ALONG WITH THE PROPER REPORTING OF ALL FUNDS RECEIVED BY THE TOWN FROM ANY SOURCE AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, THE TOWN CLERK OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG SHALL FORWARD HIS CERTIFIED COPY OF THIS RESOLUTION TO THE NEW YORK STATE CONTROLLER AUDIT DIVISION AND TO THE WESTERN REGIONAL DIRECTOR OF THE NEW YORK STATE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR FURTHER ACTION PURSUANT TO THE TERMS OF THIS RESOLUTION. 
          THERE A SECOND TO THAT. 
          SECOND. 
          SECOND IS MR. PETRI A QUESTION? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, NEXT ITEM B. 
          RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN SUPERVISOR IS AUTHORIZED TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT PREPARED BY DRESCHER AND MALKI TO PROVIDE UPON REQUEST SERVICES NECESSARY TO COMPLETE THE ANNUAL AUDIT FOR THE TOWN PERTAINING TO THE YEAR ENDING 12 31 20 AND FOR ADDITIONAL SERVICES PERTAINING TO THE RECALCULATING OF ALL BANK OF, OF, OF ALL BANK AND ACCOUNT NEEDS FOR THE TOWN THROUGH THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR. 
          THAT'S THE MOTION. 
          THE CONTRACT FOR A LETTER OF ENGAGEMENT IS ATTACHED. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          ALRIGHT ON THE QUESTION. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY, AYE. 
          A AYE. 
          THE RESOLUTION IS CARRIED I A 25. 
          UM, WITH THAT ONE MINOR ADJUSTMENT, WE, AT THE TIME OF HAMBURG WAS AWARDED A RALPH C. WILSON JUNIOR FOUNDATION DESIGN AND ACCESS GRANT THROUGH THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION OF BUFFALO TO HIRE A QUALIFIED FIRM CONSULTANT TO PREPARE A PLANNING STUDY THAT WILL PROVIDE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE AND DESIGN SERVICES FOR THE REVITALIZATION OF THE SOUTH PARK SHOPPING DISTRICT AND LAKE STREET CAMP ROAD CORRIDOR. 
          AND WHERE IS THE SELECTED CONSULTANT? MUST HAVE EXPERTISE IN PLANNING LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE AND THE REVITALIZATION OF COMMUNITIES. 
          AND WHERE IS THE TOTAL BUDGET FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE HAMBURG GATEWAY REVITALIZATION DESIGN PROJECT IS $50,000. 
          AND WHERE IS THE FOLLOWING? TWO FIRMS SUBMITTED PROPOSALS BY THE SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2021 DEADLINE LABO ASSOCIATES AND MOLLY VENTURA, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT CPL. 
          AND WHEREAS ON OCTOBER 6TH, 2021 AT 7:00 PM THE PROJECT ADVISORY COMMITTEE REVIEWED, DISCUSSED AND EVALUATED THE PROPOSALS AND UNANIMOUSLY SELECTED LABELLA 
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ASSOCIATES. 
          NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD ACCEPTS THE UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION OF THE PROJECT ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND AWARDS THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT TO LABELLA ASSOCIATES AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN OF HAMBURG WILL COMMIT UPON SUBSEQUENT BOARD APPROVAL, THE DEVELOPMENT AND FULL IMPLEMENTATION OF THE HAMBURG GATEWAY REVITALIZATION DESIGN PROJECT. 
          ADDITIONALLY, THE TOWN OF HAMBURG WILL DESIGNATE EECG CONSULTING LLC TO MANAGE THE PROJECT ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG. 
          SO MOVED. 
          SECOND. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ON THE QUESTION ANYWAY. 
          GOT THE AMENDMENT RIGHT? YES. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          ON THE QUESTION. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OKAY. 
          NUMBER 24 IS REDUNDANT OF NUMBER 19, THAT'S BEEN REMOVED FROM THE, UH, THE AGENDA. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UH, WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG IS ESTABLISHED IN MCKINLEY MALL INCENTIVE INCENTIVE ZONING LAW, AND WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG HAS RECEIVED A REQUEST FOR INCENTIVE ZONING FROM ECHO PARK AUTOMOTIVE TO RENOVATE THE EXISTING BUILDING LOCATED AT 3 7 0 1 MCKINLEY PARKWAY AND REOPEN IT AS AN ECHO PARK USED CAR DELIVERY CENTER. 
          AND WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG TOWN BOARD IS DETERMINED THAT THE PROPOSAL IS WORTHY OF FURTHER CONSIDERATION AND NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED DOWN OF HAMBURG TOWN BOARD HEREBY REFERS THE REQUEST TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR REVIEW. 
          IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? ONE SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT IS THE OLD, UH, PIER ONE STORE AT THE MCKINLEY MALL. 
          UH, ON THE QUESTION. 
          ANYTHING FURTHER? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UH, NOW WE'VE GOT THE TOWN AUDIT FIGURES. 
          AM I RIGHT? I DON'T HAVE MINE WITH ME. 
          DOES ANYBODY HAVE IT? YES, I PULL UP THERE. 
          YOU SHOULD HAVE OH YEAH. 
          A LIKELY STORY. 
          . 
          THANKS VERY MUCH. 
          OKAY. 
          I'LL GIVE IT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE, UH, THE AUDITED BUDGET STATEMENT AS OF 10 25 21 TOTAL OPERATING FUND DISBURSEMENTS FOR THE PERIOD $984,059 AND 38 CENTS. 
          TOTAL CASH DISBURSEMENT SUBMITTED FOR AUDIT $1,000,150,860 AND 32 CENTS. 
          THE MOTION IS TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE, THE REPORT. 
          IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR A AYE, THAT CONCLUDES THE AGENDA WITH THIS JUDGE. 
          SAY WHAT THE NO, NO, I'M NOT, I'M NOT CONSIDERING IT BECAUSE IT WASN'T FILED ON TIME AND WE'VE KIND OF GENERALLY AGREED TO PUT IT OFF TO A FUTURE DATE. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THAT CONCLUDES THE AGENDA. 
          SO, UH, I GUESS THE, THE PROTOCOL IS TO GO TO DEPARTMENT HEADS HERE. 
          UH, UH, WALTER, ANYTHING TO SAY SIR? NO, YOUR HONOR. 
          ALRIGHT, WELL, THANK YOU. 
          OBJECTION. 
          SUSTAINED. 
          MY KNEE JERK REACTION. 
          YEAH. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THAT'S OKAY. 
          YOU LAWYERS ALL THINK THE SAME, YOU KNOW, UH, TARA, ANYTHING GOING ON THERE WITH YOU? YEAH, I WANTED TO REPORT THAT WE'VE GOT ABOUT A DOZEN ACCOUNTING, UH, RESUMES FOR THE FINANCE DIRECTOR POSITION, WHICH WAS LISTED, UH, INDEED. 
          UH, WE HAVE OUR SON, OUR FACEBOOK, OUR TOWN WEBSITE, AND THERE'S, THEY'RE STILL COMING IN. 
          SO, UM, YOU SAID YOU WERE GONNA PUT TOGETHER, WELL, THE NEXT MEETING I THOUGHT WHAT I WOULD DO, I THINK I MENTIONED AT THE WORK SESSION, BUT I THOUGHT WHAT I WOULD DO IS SEE HOW THE BOARD FEELS ABOUT THIS. 
          THE DEADLINE WAS, UH, TO FILE YOUR APPLICATION WAS NOVEMBER THE 15TH, RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          SO I THOUGHT AT THE NOVEMBER 15TH MEETING WE'D APPOINT A SCREENING COMMITTEE. 
          THERE'RE GONNA BE ABOUT 20 APPLICATIONS TO READ THROUGH. 
          SOME YOU MAY WIN AWAY JUST ON THE PAPERWORK. 
          SO WHAT I THEN WOULD DO IS HAVE THE COMMITTEE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AND THEN AN ULTIMATE APPOINTMENT BE MADE AT THE JANUARY REORGANIZATION MEETING BECAUSE THIS BOARD WILL NOT BE WORKING WITH THE NEW FINANCE DIRECTOR. 
          THE NEW BOARD WILL, SO I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THE NEW BOARD TO MAKE THE APPOINTMENT, UH, AND THEY CAN CONSULT WITH THE COMMITTEE DURING THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAYS. 
          THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY STORY AND I'M STICKING TO IT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, LET'S SEE WHO ELSE IS THERE? CAMMY, WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU GOT TO TELL US? I HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO REPORT. 
          OKAY, MARTY, TWO QUICK ANNOUNCEMENTS. 
          ONE ON FRIDAY AT THE SENIOR CENTER, WE HAVE A COVID BOOSTER CLINIC FOR PFIZER. 
          UH, UH, INTERESTED, UH, PEOPLE MUST CALL THE SENIOR SERVICES 
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OFFICE AND, UH, MAKE A RESERVATION. 
          RESERVATIONS ONLY END SECOND ON SUNDAY, UM, AT OUR PUBLIC SKATE. 
          IT'S A HALLOWEEN PUBLIC SKATE WITH CUSTOM CONTESTS AND LOTS OF OTHER, UH, SURPRISES. 
          AND MS. SHANNON, IT'S IN CHARGE OF THAT. 
          SO I KNOW IT'S GONNA BE A GREAT, UH, A GREAT FUN DAY. 
          THANK YOU, SHANNON. 
          THANK YOU MARTY. 
          OKAY. 
          I CAN'T, UH, SEAN, HOW ABOUT SEAN KARATE, ANYTHING? UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE 2019, UH, FEMA REIMBURSEMENT, WE HAVE ALL OF THE PROJECT EXCEPTION OF THE CLOCK TOWER SUBMITTED AND APPROVED FOR REIMBURSEMENT. 
          SO WE'RE HOPING TO REALIZE SOME INCOME FROM THAT. 
          UM, WE WERE GRANTED AN EXTENSION THROUGH SEPTEMBER OF 2022 FOR THAT, UM, PROJECT AROUND THE FOX TOWER AND THAT WHOLE WALL. 
          SO AS SOON AS ALL THE RFPS AND ALL THE PAPERWORK, IF YOU COULD JUST KEEP YOU IN THE LOOP ON THAT SO THAT, UM, WE COULD GET THAT SUBMITTED TO THAT KEEPS FEEDING HAPPY AND, OKAY. 
          I'LL REMIND TOM BECAUSE I HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN INVOLVED SINCE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO RECORD. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, CHIEF, WHAT DO YOU GOT THERE? ANYTHING I RECOGNIZE AND THANK FOR RELIGIOUS ALSO, THEY'RE GREAT CORPORATE CITIZENS, AREN'T THEY? YES. 
          YEAH, THEY ARE. 
          UM, MR. DR. STOKES, HOW ARE YOU, JIM? GOOD, YOUR HONOR. 
           , GOOD TO SEE YOU. 
          HOW YOU DOING? GOOD. 
          UM, THANKS NEIL. 
          UH, MY NAME'S DR. 
          PHIL STOKES. 
          I'M HAMBURG RESIDENT AND ALSO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF PEN DIXIE FOSSIL PARK. 
          UH, AS YOU KNOW, HAMBURG, NEW YORK IS NOW THE HOME OF THE TRIAL BITES. 
          UH, THANKS TO THE TOWN COUNCIL FOR RECOGNIZING US, UH, LAST YEAR. 
          UM, UH, BUT REALLY THE, THE HISTORY I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU TONIGHT IS SOMETHING, UH, NOT SO ANCIENT, NOT ABOUT TRIAL BITES AND FOSSILS, UM, BUT REALLY FROM, UH, THE NINETIES AND GOING BACK TO FEBRUARY 27TH, 1995. 
          UH, INCIDENTALLY, THAT WAS THE LAST YEAR THAT THE BUFFALO BILLS MADE THE PLAYOFFS, UH, PRIOR TO 2020. 
          UH, SO IT WAS QUITE SOME TIME AGO. 
          UM, AND I JUST WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU, UH, SOME, SOME NOTES FROM THAT BOARD MEETING THAT NIGHT. 
          UH, SO PRESENT, IT WAS SUPERVISOR PAT HO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS MARK KA, JAMES CONNOLLY, THOMAS QUATRO, AND KATHLEEN HOEL, WHO WAS SERVING, UH, HER FIRST ELECTED TERM, UH, RIGHT HERE IN HAMBURG. 
          ON THAT NIGHT, THERE WAS A RESOLUTION MADE TO PURCHASE, UH, FORMER CEMENT CORY AND TURN IT INTO A SCIENCE AND NATURE CENTER. 
          UH, AND ACCORDING TO THE MEETING MINUTES, UH, COUNCILMAN C REPORTED, UH, HE SUPPORTED THE PROJECT AND HE STATED THAT IT IS FELT BY MYSELF AND MANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS THAT THE SITE HAS TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITIES TO BRING DEVELOPMENT INTO HAMBURG, TO PROVIDE A SITE THAT IS UNUSUAL FOR EDUCATION, SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH, SCHOOLS AND MUSEUMS. UH, SUPERVISOR HOKE CALLED IT AN INVESTMENT IN THE YOUTH AND THE HISTORY OF OUR TOWN, AND IT COSTS LESS THAN PREVIOUS RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES WE HAD BEFORE. 
          AND COUNCILWOMAN PEL SAID, RARELY DO YOU FIND A PROJECT THAT SATISFIES SO MANY DIVERSE PUBLIC INTERESTS, PRESERVATION OF THE UNIQUE NATURAL RESOURCE PRESERVATION OF GREEN SPACE, AND ON THE OTHER END OF THE SPECTRUM AND OPPORTUNITY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          NOW, THERE'S AN OLD METAPHOR. 
          YOU MAY HAVE HEARD ABOUT PLANTING TREES UNDER WHOSE SHAPE YOU NEVER GET TO ENJOY. 
          UH, BACK IN 1995, UH, THE TOWN BOARD HAD A VISION TO TURN THAT ABANDONED CEMENT QUARRY INTO A RESOURCE FOR THE PEOPLE OF HAMBURG. 
          UH, THEY PLANTED THE SEEDS AND 26 YEARS LATER, I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT THE TREES ARE DOING QUITE WELL. 
          OUR ORGANIZATION HAS CONTINUED TO GROW DESPITE THE PANDEMIC. 
          WE'VE ADDED MORE STAFF, MORE EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS, UH, NEW PARTNERSHIPS WITH COMMUNITY GROUPS, UH, MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESIDENTS TO ENJOY NATURE. 
          AND OF COURSE, THE TRIAL BYTES ARE STILL HERE. 
          SO, UH, WITH THE TOWN'S HELP, UH, NEXT YEAR WE'RE CONSTRUCTING A NEW PARKING LOT ENTRANCE ROAD THAT WILL ALLEVIATE TRAFFIC CONCERNS CAUSED BY OUR GROWTH. 
          UH, AND WE HOPE TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION IN MAY ONCE THE SNOW MELTS. 
          AND WE'VE HAD OUR BUFFALO BILLS SUPER BOWL PARADE . 
          UH, SO I WANT TO THANK THE TOWN FOR HELPING CON APPENDIX TO CONTINUE TO GROW. 
          UH, AND ON BEHALF OF THE ORGANIZATION, I HOPE YOU CAN ENJOY THE SHADE WITH US. 
          WELL, YOU'RE VERY NICE TO SAY THAT, BILL. 
          THANK YOU, JIM, IF YOU DON'T MIND, UM, OUR DIRECTOR OF EDUCATION IS ALSO HERE AS WELL. 
          SHE'D LIKE TO, UH, ADD SOMETHING. 
          OH, SURE. 
          I GO. 
          HI, I'LL OLIVIA A MINUTE. 
          UM, GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. 
          MY NAME'S DR. 
          HOLLY SCHREIBER. 
          I AM THE DIRECTOR OF EDUCATION AT PENN DIXIE, I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK TONIGHT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW PENN DIXIE AFFECTS THE WHOLE COMMUNITY. 
          COMMUNITY. 
          SO I MOVED HERE FROM NORTHERN CALIFORNIA TO TAKE THIS JOB WITH MY FAMILY, AND WE HAVE MADE HAMBURGER HOME AND IT IS 
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GREAT TO BE PART OF SUCH A UNIQUE ORGANIZATION. 
          UM, MY FAMILY HAS NOW SAT DOWN IN ROOTS HERE IN HAMBURG. 
          MY DAUGHTER IS IN FOURTH GRADE AT  ELEMENTARY. 
          WE ARE FIRST TIME HOMEOWNERS HERE, AND, UM, WE ARE REALLY HAPPY TO BE PART OF THIS COMMUNITY. 
          UM, YOUR SUPPORT APPENDIX ALLOWS US TO CONTINUE OUR MISSION AS HANDS-ON SCIENCE EDUCATION. 
          UM, APPENDIX REALLY IS A UNIQUE PLACE, UM, SPEAKING AS A GEOLOGIST AND A PALEONTOLOGIST. 
          UM, WHO, WHO I, I WORKED ALL OVER NORTH AMERICA. 
          UM, THERE ARE VERY FEW PLACES LIKE PENNIX ANYWHERE AND THE PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO LEARN ABOUT GEOLOGY AND PALEONTOLOGY AND EARTH HISTORY. 
          UM, IN A TYPICAL YEAR, WE SEE OVER 5,000 STUDENTS ON SITE RANGING IN AGE FROM PRE-K TO GRADUATE SCHOOL. 
          AND WE HAVE MANY LOCAL SCHOOLS THAT VISIT. 
          TEACHERS SPEAK VERY HIGHLY APPENDIX E BECAUSE THEY GET TO HAVE HANDS-ON EDUCATION, INQUIRY-BASED EDUCATION WITH THEIR STUDENTS. 
          THERE'S NO BETTER FEELING AS AN EDUCATOR TO SEE A STUDENT PICK UP A FOSSIL THAT NO ONE HAS EVER SEEN BEFORE IN 380 MILLION YEARS. 
          AND THEIR EYES LIGHT UP WITH EXCITEMENT FOR SCIENCE. 
          UM, I ALSO WANTED TO NOTE THAT THE TOWN'S INVESTMENT IN 2021 IN PEN DIXIE WAS APPROXIMATELY OR WAS $10,000. 
          AND THAT RESULTED IN APPROXIMATELY 300,000 IN ADDITIONAL GRANTS, DONATIONS, FUNDRAISING, AND PROGRAMMING REVENUE. 
          SO YOUR SUPPORT APPENDIX REALLY HAS A GREAT EFFECT ON COMMUNITY, BOTH PERSONALLY AND TO ALL THE SCHOOL CHILDREN AND PEOPLE WHO VISIT THE SITE EACH YEAR. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WELL, MR. RYAN, THAT'S A TOUGH ACT TO FOLLOW. 
          EVERYBODY , NOTHING TO REPORT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, JENNIFER, UH, THE TOWN HAS RECEIVED THEIR NEW, UH, WORKSTATIONS. 
          UM, SO THE IT DEPARTMENT IS JUST BEGINNING TO START DEPLOYING, UH, THE NEW WORKSTATIONS AND MONITORS. 
          UM, THE KEYBOARDS AND THE MICE ARE BACK ORDERED, UM, UNTIL PROBABLY AFTER THANKSGIVING. 
          BUT AS PARTS AND PERIPHERALS REFERRALS START COMING IN, UM, ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT WILL HOPEFULLY BE REPLACED FOR THE FIRST YEAR. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UH, KIM, YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB. 
          , UH, AS OUR KIND OF ACTING DEPARTMENT. 
          ANYTHING YOU WANNA ADD TO, TO DELIBERATIONS? NO, WE'RE REALLY STILL JUST WORKING ON BUDGET STUFF AND END OF YEAR, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON. 
          WELL, GRATEFUL, I'LL GRATEFUL FOR YOUR HARD WORK. 
          THANK YOU KATHY. 
          UH, HINKY OUR CLERK. 
          ANYTHING TO, TO ADD? NO REPORT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, WELL IT COMES TO THE AUDIENCE THEN. 
          IS THERE ANYONE LEFT WHO WANTS JEN? JEN'S, WHERE'S JENNIFER? OH, I'M SORRY JEN. 
          I DIDN'T SEE YOU THERE. 
          I APOLOGIZE. 
          HOW ARE YOU? GOOD. 
          UH, IN ADDITION TO OUR ONGOING CASES, WE STILL SEEM TO GET AN INSTREAM OF A LOT OF PEOPLE CONTACTING BECAUSE OF COVID. 
          A NUMBER OF AGENCIES AND COURTS ARE STILL, UH, WORKING REMOTELY. 
          UH, FAMILY COURT, FOR EXAMPLE, FAMILY JUSTICE CENTER, THEY'RE WORKING REMOTELY. 
          SO PEOPLE ARE CALLING IN BECAUSE THEY WANT TO REACH A TANGIBLE PERSON ONLY THEY WANNA COME IN. 
          UM, FOR EXAMPLE, I'VE HAD A FEW PEOPLE CALL THIS PAST WEEK AND THIS WEEK, UH, BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO REACH FAMILY JUSTICE CENTER FOR ASSIST WITH FA UH, YOU KNOW, FAMILY OFFENSE PETITIONS AND THEY HAVE TO PUT A CALL IN AND THEY'RE BASICALLY PUTTING A, ON A, A CALL CODE IF YOU WILL. 
          THEY HAVE TO WAIT FOR A CALL BACK AT SOME POINT IN THE DAY. 
          SO THEY'RE TRYING TO REACH OUT TO SOMEBODY AND THEY KNOW THEY CAN REACH OUR OFFICE. 
          SO IT'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL FOR THEM. 
          THEY EXPRESS A LOT OF GRATITUDE IN TERMS OF ACTUALLY REACHING A TANGIBLE PERSON RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE KIND OF REACHING YOUR CREDIT CARD. 
          UH, CUSTOMER SERVICE IS BEING PLACED ON HOLD, LIKE YOUR CALLER NUMBER 20. 
          UM, SO WE HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK FOR THAT AND HAVE BEEN VERY GRATEFUL. 
          UH, WE'VE GOTTEN A NUMBER OF REFERRALS EVEN FROM SURROUNDING AREAS BECAUSE OF THAT REASON AS WELL. 
          SO WE'VE BEEN MAKING, UH, APPROPRIATE REFERRALS AND DOING SAFETY PLANS WITH THEM AS WELL. 
          SO, UM, IT'S BEEN VERY BUSY. 
          ONGOINGLY THE PANDEMIC HAS NOT HELPED ANY BECAUSE WE HAVE SEEN A VERY LARGE INCREASE AS SUCH FOR THAT REASON. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          OKAY, JENNIFER. 
          AND THANK YOU BY THE WAY, FOR AN, UH, CONVERTING MY ASSISTANT TO SEASONAL FULL-TIME BECAUSE WE DEFINITELY NEED THE HELP. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THE ENTIRE REPORT. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          UH, I DID I MISS ANY OTHER, I'M SORRY IF I MISSED ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS. 
          UH, OKAY. 
          UH, IT'S TIME TO OPEN IT UP TO THE AUDIENCE. 
          ANYBODY WANT TO ADD ANYTHING? ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? STATEMENTS? 
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OKAY. 
          UH, BOARD MEMBERS. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? UM, I JUST WANNA ECHO THE CHIEF'S GRATITUDE FOR THE NEW CRIME SCENE VAN THAT THE DEPARTMENT'S GONNA GET. 
          I KNOW IT WAS A CAPITAL REQUEST FOR THE, FOR THE FUTURE, BUT WITH THE, UM, THE GENEROSITY OF WEST HER AND THEN, AND THEN LEGISLATOR GILMORE MATCHING THAT GENEROSITY, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S, SOMETHING'S GONNA HAPPEN SOONER. 
          IT'S GONNA BE A GOOD ASSET. 
          SO. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYBODY ELSE? I HAVE ONE, ONE ITEM IN, UH, COLLABORATION WITH SEAN DOYLE AND THE HAMBURG UM, DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. 
          WE SUBMITTED, UH, AN APPLICATION FOR A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT CARES ACT FUNDING THAT TARGETED OUR SMALL BUSINESS COMMUNITY. 
          AND LAST WEEK WE WERE THRILLED TO FIND OUT THAT WE DID RECEIVE THAT AWARD. 
          SO THE TOWN, UM, WILL BE RECEIVING $450,000 FOR, SPECIFICALLY FOR OUR SMALL BUSINESSES TO, UM, FOR A GRANT RELIEF PROGRAM. 
          THE AWARDS WILL BE BETWEEN 5,000 AND $50,000. 
          THIS WILL, UH, THE GOAL OF THE PROGRAM IS TO KEEP BUSINESSES OPEN AND RETAIN JOBS IN THOSE THAT ARE AT RISK OF CLOSING OR LAYING OFF EMPLOYEES DUE TO POLICIES RELATED TO COVID-19 AND THE OVERALL IMPACT ON THE WORLDWIDE ECONOMY. 
          SO THIS IS GREAT NEWS FOR OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY, MR. DOYLE, UM, AND A COMMITTEE WILL NOW PUT TOGETHER WHAT THE PROTOCOL WILL BE IN THE PROCESS. 
          AND THAT INFORMATION WILL BE ROLLING OUT VERY SHORTLY. 
          AND, UM, AGAIN, THIS IS GREAT NEWS FOR OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND WE WERE THRILLED TO BE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH THEM AND, UM, SUBMIT THE GRANT APPLICATION AND, UM, RECEIVE THIS AWARD OF 450,000 BUCKS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I HAVE ONE OTHER QUICK ITEM. 
          UM, IF WE COULD GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE EMPLOYMENT HISTORY OF ONE OR MORE TOWN EMPLOYEES. 
          WELL, YOU GOTTA BE A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC THAN THAT. 
          WELL, TO, UM, CLARIFY INFORMATION AS TO WHETHER IT'S BEEN PROVIDED OR NOT PROVIDED TO THE BOARD, WE HAVE TO ALRIGHT. 
          UH, I GUESS SO, UH, I'LL SECOND IT. 
          CAN I, UH, CAN I MAKE ONE ANNOUNCEMENT PLEASE? I'M SORRY. 
          YEAH, GO AHEAD, . 
          I'M NO, I GET IT. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT'S, IT'S KIND OF COOL. 
          UM, SO I'VE ONLY BEEN INVOLVED IN, UH, AT THE NIKE BASE, THE BMX TRACK FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS WHEN MY SON STARTED. 
          UH, BUT THE KAMINSKY FAMILY HAS BEEN INVOLVED FOR I THINK 12 YEARS OR WHATEVER. 
          IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME AND THEY HAVE SET A GOAL. 
          THEY WERE SAVING ALL THEIR MONEY TO BUY THIS SPECIAL SAFETY BARREL GATE. 
          AND, UH, I'M PROUD TO ANNOUNCE THAT THEY ACHIEVED THEIR GOALS. 
          UH, THIS YEAR FINANCIALLY THE TRACK IS A NONPROFIT AND THEY'VE BEEN SAVING ALL THEIR MONEY TO PURCHASE THIS SPECIAL GATE. 
          THE GATE IS ACTUALLY IN THE GARAGE RIGHT NOW. 
          UH, A BUNCH OF VOLUNTEERS AND MYSELF, WE POURED THE FORM FOR IT THIS WEEKEND AND THE GUY FLEW IN FROM FRANCE TO INSTALL IT TOMORROW, PROBABLY IN THE RAIN. 
          UH, SO IT'S A BIG DEAL FOR THE TRACK. 
          UH, THERE'S ONLY ONE OTHER TRACK IN NEW YORK STATE THAT HAS IT, WHICH IS S SHORTHAND LONG ISLAND, WHICH HAS A TON OF MONEY BECAUSE THEY DO ALL THE STATE BIG RACES. 
          THIS IS A BIG DEAL AND IT'S A SAFETY GIG. 
          SO, UH, CONGRATULATIONS TO THE SOUTH TOWNS BOARD, UH, AND MEMBERS, UH, FOR PROBABLY 10 TO 12 YEARS OF SAVING TO GET THIS GATE. 
          SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR MEETING, GO INTO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, THEN WE COME BACK AND, UH, UH, SIGN OFF FOR THE NIGHT. 
          SO, UH, WE'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING AND WENT TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          THAT'S BETH FARRELL'S MOTION. 
          I'LL SECOND THAT. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU EVERYBODY.
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