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ON YOUR OWN, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.ALRIGHT, FOLKS, WE VERY FULL AGENDA AND, UM, WE ARE GONNA BEGIN WITH SOME PRESENTATIONS ON THE ICE ARENA IN JUST A FEW MINUTES.
BUT, UH, WE DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM SOME FOLKS FROM THE LAND BANK OF BUFFALO AND ERIE NIGRA LAND IMPROVEMENT CORPORATION.
WE HAVE A RESOLUTION ON THE AGENDA TODAY, WHICH REFERS TO A, UH, PROPERTY ON WEST PLEASANT.
AND JOCELYN GORDON IS HERE TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, WHAT THAT RESOLUTION MEANS AND WHAT THE LAND BANK IS UP TO JOCELYN.
UH, JOCELYN GORDON, UH, AND THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF OUR LAND BANK AND BEN BROWN, UH, IS OUR PROGRAM COORDINATOR.
UM, SO WHAT'S ON THE RESOLUTION FOR YOU TONIGHT? I MEAN, BASICALLY WHAT OUR LAND BANK DOES IS WE DEAL WITH VACANT AND ABANDONED PROPERTIES.
SO OUR JOB IS TO RETURN THESE PROPERTIES TO PRODUCTIVE USE.
SO YOU HAVE, UH, A PROPERTY UNPLEASANT, I BELIEVE, AND BEN CAN HELP ME IF I, IF I GET LOST HERE, UH, DILAPIDATED PROPERTY, UH, THAT'S IN DISREPAIR.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE MIGHT BE, UH, AN ADJACENT NEIGHBOR WHO IS INTERESTED IN ULTIMATELY PURCHASING THE PROPERTY, BUT THAT PROPERTY IS GOING THROUGH THE FORECLOSURE PROCESS, WHICH MEANS IT'S SET TO GO TO PUBLIC AUCTION.
SO OUR LAND BANK, UH, WHAT WE DO, IF YOU NEVER REMEMBER ANYTHING ABOUT A LAND BANK, AGAIN, IS UH, LAND BANKS HAVE WHAT'S CALLED A SUPER BID.
THAT MEANS THAT IF THE TOWN INVITES US TO ATTEND THE AUCTION AND ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY, WE HAVE, UH, WHAT'S CALLED OUR, OUR SUPER BID.
WHICH MEANS THAT WHEN THE LAND BANK RAISES ITS PADDLE, NO ONE ELSE IS ALLOWED TO BID.
UH, AND WE WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT PROPERTY, UH, IN, SO THAT'S STATE LEGISLATION, NEW YORK STATE LAND BANK LAW.
SO WE'VE BEEN AROUND FOR, SINCE 2000, PRACTICING SINCE 2014.
WE'VE ACQUIRED ALMOST 200 PROPERTIES, UH, DURING THAT TIME, RETURNED ABOUT 175 OF THEM TO PRODUCTIVE USE.
SOMETIMES WE DO REHAB, SOMETIMES WE GET VACANT PROPERTIES AND PUT NEW BUILDS ON THEM.
SOMETIMES WE HELP A NEIGHBOR GET A VACANT LOT NEXT DOOR AND CREATE A SIDE YARD.
UH, MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT WE ALWAYS WORK IN, IN COMMUNICATION AND COOPERATION WITH YOUR TOWN.
SO WHATEVER IT IS THAT, THAT END USE THAT YOU'RE SEEKING IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA HELP YOU WITH.
SO IF THE DESIRE IS FOR YOU TO HAVE BEEN LIKE, WORK WITH THAT NEIGHBOR TO TRY AND MAKE THAT PROPERTY SALE WORK, WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO DO THAT.
UM, BUT IN GENERAL, OUR JOB IS TO TRY AND REALLY GUARANTEE A POSITIVE OUTCOME FOR THAT PROPERTY.
YOU KNOW, REMOVE THE BLIGHT AND TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO GET IT BACK ONTO THE TAX ROLL, UH, AND INTO PRIVATE OWNERSHIP ONCE AGAIN.
SO THAT'S ESSENTIALLY, UH, I BELIEVE WHAT THE RESOLUTION'S ABOUT TONIGHT AND WE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, UM, THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
AND I ALSO JUST BROUGHT, YOU KNOW, SOME HANDOUTS IF ANYBODY IS INTERESTED JUST IN LEARNING WHAT WE DO.
AND WE'VE ALSO DONE SOME PRETTY COOL WORK IN THE VILLAGE.
UM, YOU MIGHT RECOGNIZE 33 WEST, UM, STREET, WHICH IS A PROPERTY, UH, THAT WE TOOK IN AND DID A FULL REHAB ON AND SOLD IT FOR $225,000 FOR LESS THAN A YEAR AGO.
SO, UM, IT WAS, UH, SOME GREAT WORK.
IF ANYBODY WANTS TO LOOK AT THAT LATER OR WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? THE ONE THING I WOULD JUST ADD, UH, BASED ON MY CONVERSATION WITH, UM, KATE FROM THE WESTERN NEW YORK LAW CENTER IS REALLY BIG, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, PRIORIT PRIORITIZES OWNER OCCUPIED AND LOCAL OWNERSHIP.
'CAUSE UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS PROPERTY IS GONNA BE AUCTIONED OFF ONE WAY OR THE OTHER IN OCTOBER.
UM, BUT WITHOUT THE LAND BANK'S INVOLVEMENT, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT IT'S NOT JUST GONNA GO TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER THAT COULD BE OUT, OUT OF STATE.
RIGHT? THAT'S THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE, IS WHAT, YOU KNOW, RATHER THAN LEAVING SOMETHING TO THE RISK OF AN AUCTION, WE WILL GUARANTEE AN OUTCOME FOR YOU.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE PRIORITIZING.
WE DO NOT SELL TO OUT OF TOWN ENTITIES CANADA.
WE STRIVE FOR LOCAL ENTITIES, LOCAL BUYERS, LOCAL HOMEOWNERS.
UM, SO THAT, THAT REALLY IS THE MAIN REASON THAT, THAT WE'RE HERE.
AND THE REASON THAT LAND BANKS EXIST IS TO REDUCE THAT RISK OF THE OFFICE.
I'D ADD SOMETHING TO THAT MYSELF, UM, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE TAX FORECLOSURES AND, AND WHAT HAPPENS WITH TAX FORECLOSURES IS YOU GET, I DON'T KNOW, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, BOTTOM FEEDERS, YOU GET, YOU GET PEOPLE THAT, THAT WANNA SUBMIT LOW BIDS AND, AND THAT THAT CAN BRING A LOT OF PROBLEMS. YOU GET, YOU GET OUT OF STATE, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE, UH, SLUM BOARDS.
I MEAN, THIS HAPPENS A LOT IN THE CITY ABSOLUTELY.
EXCEPT BUFFALO AND OTHER URBAN AREAS.
SO, BUT, BUT THEY COULD HAPPEN HERE, UH, WITH, WITH TAX FORECLOSURES.
WELL, WITH THE PROPERTY MARKET BEING JUST AS HOT AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, EVERYBODY IS SPECULATING.
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EVERYBODY IS WANTING TO JUST, YOU KNOW, PUT A BID ON, PUT A BID IN ON SOMETHING AND RECITE, UNSEEN AND HOLD IT, DO NOTHING, DRAIN THE EQUITY FROM IT, YOU KNOW, CREATE A RENTAL PROPERTY OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT THEY CAN JUST DRAIN EQUITY FROM.SO IT'S JUST A NICE GUARANTEE, UM, THAT WE WILL BE, WE WOULD BE WORKING WITH THE TOWN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BASICALLY FOLLOWING WHATEVER IT IS, YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN, YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, IS THE BEST USE FUTURE USE FOR THAT PROPERTY.
I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE A PATH SCHEDULED TONIGHT, SO, UM, YEAH.
AND PLEASE FEEL FREE, UH, TO CONTACT US IF, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.
I KNOW WE HAVE A FULL SCHEDULE OF PRESENTATIONS AND IT LOOKS LIKE OUR FIRST PRESENTATION IS CHEWED UP.
UM, THANKS FOR HAVING US TO THE SECOND ROUND OF, OF INTERVIEWS FOR THE HAMBURG, UM, ICE IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, WE KNOW IT'S AN IMPORTANT PROJECT FOR CONSTITUENTS, UM, AND IT'S A HARD DECISION CLEARLY AS WE'RE IN THE SECOND ROUND OF, OF, UM, IN OF INTERVIEWS.
UM, OUR JOB HERE TODAY IS TO SHOW YOU WHY BERGMAN IS YOUR BEST CHOICE.
UM, WE INTEND TO, UH, SHOW YOU HOW WE CAN HELP YOU PROVIDE YOUR CITIZENS WITH THE BEST POSSIBLE SOLUTION, UM, FOR THEM FOR THE NEXT 30 TO 40 YEARS IN THE SPACE THAT WE DON'T SPEND MONEY AT THE MUNICIPAL LEVEL, UM, FREQUENTLY ON, ON READERS.
UM, REALLY QUICKLY, WE HAVE A LOT TO COVER IN 20 MINUTES, A VERY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.
UM, BERGMAN IS, UH, WE'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR FOUR YEARS.
UM, WE HAVE BEEN RECENTLY MERGED WITH A GROUP CALLED COLLIERS ENGINEERING AND DESIGN.
WE, WE'LL GO THROUGH A NAME CHANGE.
UM, WE JUST RECENTLY WENT FROM 400 PEOPLE TO 2000.
WHAT WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT WE HAVE A VERY DEEP BENCH OF OUR ENGINEERS TO SUPPORT OUR ARCHITECTURAL GROUP.
UM, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE LOCATIONS ACROSS THE EASTERN MIDWESTERN STATES, BUT MOST IMPORTANT FOR YOU IS THAT WE'RE FROM BUFFALO TOO.
I'VE BEEN PRACTICING HERE, UH, SINCE FOR 22 YEARS FOR MY ENTIRE CAREER.
AND, UM, OUR GROUP HAS BEEN IN BUFFALO SINCE 1990.
UM, AND WE'VE DONE LITERALLY THOUSANDS OF PROJECTS HERE.
UM, I REPRESENT OUR GOVERNMENT PRACTICE, AND THAT'S IMPORTANT TO DIS TO DISTINGUISH FOR YOU.
OUR GOVERNMENT PRACTICE, UM, IS FOCUSED ON GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT WE KNOW HOW TO WORK WITH YOU, UM, THROUGH LOW BID PROCESS, THROUGH WIX LAW PROJECTS, UM, AND ALSO TO DELIVER YOUR CONSTITUENTS WITH THE BEST PRODUCT FOR THE LEAST AMOUNT OF MONEY ON BUDGET, ON SCHEDULE.
THAT'S ONE OF OUR PRI GUIDING PRINCIPLES.
UM, WE'RE A MULTI MULTIDISCIPLINARY GROUP OF ARCHITECTS, ENGINEERS, PLANNERS, GIS, TECHNICIANS AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS.
UM, AND WE'RE SUPPORTED BY A FULL COMPLIMENT OF BUILDING ENGINEERS.
WE SERVE STATE, COUNTY, LOCAL GOVERNMENT AGENCIES AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGENCIES.
UM, AND, AND I'VE ALREADY MENTIONED, UH, HOW, HOW THAT WOULD BENEFIT YOU.
UM, OUR GOVERNMENT, EXCUSE ME, OUR GOVERNMENT PRACTICE IS GUIDED BY THREE PRIMARY PRINCIPLES.
IT'S TO BE YOUR PARTNER IN DEVELOPING SOLUTIONS FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS, HELPING YOU BRING YOUR VISION ALIVE.
AND I WANNA STRESS THAT WE DON'T BRING OUR SOLUTIONS AND FORCE 'EM ON YOU.
WE WORK WITH YOU, FIND YOUR THE BEST SOLUTIONS FOR YOU AND YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
WE DO THAT ON TIME, ON BUDGET, KNOWING HOW MANY PROJECTS AND SERVICES YOU HAVE TO DELIVER.
AND WE WORK WITH YOUR FACILITIES PEOPLE IN ORDER TO GIVE YOU AND THEM A, A FACILITY THAT THEY CAN MAINTAIN AND OPERATE EFFICIENTLY.
UM, I AM MARIE CARONE, UH, THE PRINCIPAL IN CHARGE ON THIS PROJECT AND, UM, GOVERNMENT PRACTICE LEADER WITH ME IS STEVE KUSHNER.
HE'S THE PROPOSED PROJECT MANAGER.
AND DANIELLE, UH, RUPERT DANIELLE IS GOING TO BE OUR PROJECT ARCHITECT.
IT'S ALSO NOTABLE TO, TO STATE THAT DANIELLE'S OUR HOCKEY PLAYER IN OUR GROUP.
UM, AND, AND I'M FROM A WESTERN NEW YORK HOCKEY FAMILY, UH, FOLLOWING MY BROTHER FROM RANGE SPRING.
I'M SURE SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM HAVE DONE A VERY THING, THAT VERY THING.
UM, WE WILL PROVIDE ALL SERVICES IN HOUSE, AS I MENTIONED, ALL OUR BUILDING SERVICES, UM, ARCHITECTURE,
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ENGINEERING, STRUCTURAL MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING, FIRE PROTECTION, AND COST ESTIMATING EXCEPT FOR ICE R MECHANICALS.FOR THAT, WE'RE GOING TO RELY ON OUR PARTNER B 32 IN ENGINEERING GROUP.
UM, JUST IMPORTANT TO NOTE, WE ARE WORKING CURRENTLY WITH SCOTT ON A HOCKEY RINK IN MANEL, NEW JERSEY.
AND, UM, YOU'LL HEAR LATER FROM STEVE AND DANIELLE ABOUT OUR OTHER ICE RINK EXPERIENCE.
SO, UH, WE HEARD YOU IN YOUR UPDATED LIST OF EXPECTATIONS FOR IN THIS REVISED INTERVIEW SOLICITATION.
UM, WE CAN DO EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE ASKED FOR.
AND TODAY WE'RE HERE TO SHOW YOU THAT WE WANNA BE YOUR PARTNER AND YOUR GUIDE IN PROVIDING WITH MOST OF THOSE, AS MANY OF THAT LIST, OFF THAT LIST OF, OF THE SERVICES THAT WE CAN POSSIBLY PROVIDE, UM, TO SERVE YOUR, AGAIN, YOUR CONSTITUENTS FOR THE NEXT, UM, DECADES TO COME.
AND WITH THAT, I'M GONNA LET DANIELLE SPEAK TO OUR, UH, EXPERIENCE.
SO, LIKE MARIE SAID, OUR POINT TODAY IS TO KIND OF TELL YOU WHY
SO, UM, WE HAVE THE ICE EXPERIENCE, THE BOTTOM TWO, AND THE TOP RIGHT PHOTO SHOW YOU, WE RECENTLY DID A PROJECT WITH THE CITY OF ROCHESTER BLUE CROSS, RIGHT HOME OF THE AMERKS RUN BY BLUE SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT TO LEARN TO HAMMER EXISTING BUILDINGS.
SO WE HAD TO FIT THEIR NEW SCOPE, WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR INTO THEIR EXISTING CONDITIONS.
WE HAD TO MARRY THE NEW MEAL WITH THE ADDITION LOCKER ROOMS, THE SIZE, THE DURABILITY.
SO WE HAD TO FIGURE HOW, HOW BEST TO MEET THEIR NEEDS WITHIN THE EXISTING, UM, SPACE BUILDING.
'CAUSE WE CAN LAND SO MUCH SPACE INCREASE WITH THE EXISTING, UH, ROADS AROUND IT.
UM, ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT WE FOUND, LIKE MARIE SAID, I'M IN THE GOVERNMENT PRACTICE.
I HAVE A LOT ON GOVERNMENT WORK.
SO MULTI-PRIME, THAT VISION, THAT BUDGET BALANCING IS TRUE FOR YOU BY US IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE YOU GET WHAT YOU NEED.
BUT IT'S ALSO WITHIN THE BUDGETS YOU HAVE, BECAUSE LIKE MARIE SAID, WITH YOUR CONSTITUENTS, YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE SPENDING, YOU'RE GETTING THE BEST VALUE FOR YOUR DOLLAR.
YOU ARE MAKING SURE YOU'RE GETTING SOMETHING AT THE END OF THE DAY, AS MUCH AS YOU CAN GET FROM WHAT YOU HAVE.
SO OUR TEAM, ALL OUR MECHANICAL ENGINEERS ALSO HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH JUST THE MECHANICAL ICE CREAM AUDITS, UNDERSTANDING THAT MECHANICAL SYSTEM IS GONNA BRING COST.
I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT IN YOUR RP AND THEN IN LAST INTERVIEW, WANTING TO, UM, REFER OR CONDITION THE ICE CREAM SPACE.
SO THE MOST OFF SEASON SPACE, OFF SEASON TECH.
SO OUR, OUR ENGINEERS HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH THAT.
SO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S THE BEST NEW SYSTEM THAT GOES IN THERE, BOTH FOR YOUR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE IT AND NOT GIVE THEM A NEW SYSTEM THAT THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE IT AND THEY'RE HAVING MORE ISSUES, BUT ALSO MAKING SURE IT FLOWS WELL INTO WHAT YOU, YOUR, WHAT YOU SEE IS YOUR VISION FOR THE SPACE.
THE OTHER PART OF WHAT WE WANNA TALK ABOUT IS FEASIBILITY STUDIES.
AGAIN, LIKE I WORK A LOT ON GOVERNMENT PRACTICE PROJECTS, WE DO A LOT OF CAPABILITY STUDIES FIGURING OUT WHAT, WHAT DO YOU GUYS WANT? WHAT DO YOU NEED? WHAT ARE THOSE THINGS THAT YOU THINK YOU WANT, BUT YOU HAVEN'T EVEN THOUGHT IT YET.
AND THEN WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR THE COST TO FIGURE OUT THAT CRITICAL COMPONENT OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THAT THING YOU HAVEN'T THOUGHT OF? BUT IT'LL COME OUT THROUGH THAT VISIBILITY STUDY.
AND THEN ALSO, WHAT ARE THAT THE MUST HAVES OF THAT LIST OF THINGS YOU WANT? WHAT IS THAT YOU ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO HAVE? SO WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT AS FAR AS HELPING COME UP WITH A COST.
UM, WE FEEL THAT THE FEASIBILITY STUDY IS A CRITICAL COMPONENT OF OUR DESIGN PROCESS BECAUSE IT HELPS US GET TO KNOW YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHAT DOES A SUCCESSFUL PROJECT LOOK LIKE IN, IN VARYING DEGREES AND UNDERSTANDING THE COST ASSOCIATED.
UM, GOING BACK TO THAT PREVIOUS PROJECT, FEASIBILITY STUDY HELPS US ALSO JUST TO DIVE INTO A SITUATION LIKE BLUE CROSS RE WHERE IT'S OWNED AND OPERATED BY CITY ROCHESTER, OR SORRY, IT'S OWNED BY THE CITY OF ROCHESTER, BUT IT'S OPERATED BY PSE.
SO THE CITY WANTS SOMETHING, THE PSE WANTS SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
WE KINDA ACT AS THAT MIDDLE MAN TO HELP EVERYBODY BE HAPPY, BUT WITHIN THE BUDGET OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE BUDGET AND THE VISION, KIND OF GOING BACK TO THAT.
SO THESE STUFF THAT HELPS US GET THROUGH A LOT OF THAT STUFF IN THE PRELIMINARY PHASES.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT BOURBON STRIVES TO DO IS AN ECONOMICAL GROWING IN ARCHITECTURE.
SO IT'S NOT JUST A PRETTY PICTURE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ALSO BRINGING SOMETHING THAT REVITALIZES AND BRINGS QUALITY TO THE WORLD AROUND IT.
WE FIND QUALITY AND VALUE IN MEANING IN USING COMMON MATERIALS IN NEW AND COST EFFECTIVE WAYS.
UM, THE BIG THING WE ALSO LIKE TO DO IS TO CONSIDER THE SUSTAINABILITY AND DURABILITY AND RESILIENCY.
SO IN SUMMARY, LET'S SAY FROM MY THREE SLIDES, SO WHY
ALL RIGHT, SO THERE WERE, THERE WERE SOME SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED OF US AS, AS PART OF THE, THE LATEST, UH, UH, INTERVIEW PREP, UM, THAT THAT LIST WAS GENERATED FROM.
SO ONE WAS ABOUT PUBLIC EDUCATION AND ENGAGEMENT, AND AS MARIE AND DANIELLE HAD CLOSE SPOKEN TO ABOUT BEING IN THE GOVERNMENT PRACTICE, THIS IS, AGAIN, ONE OF THE, THE ESSENTIAL THINGS THAT WE DO
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ON MANY OF OUR PROJECTS IS, IS HAVE A, A PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS, UH, GETTING THE INPUT AND FEEDBACK, UH, AT EARLY STAGES, HOW WE'VE DONE ALONG THE WAY, MAKING SURE THAT BY THE TIME WE GET DOWN THE ROAD TO A REFERENDUM OR ANY SORT OF VOTE LIKE THAT, THAT, UH, IT WILL BE SUCCESSFUL IN THE COMMUNITY.THEY SUPPORT THE PROJECT, WE WANNA GET THERE.
SO IT'S A COMMUNITY DRIVEN APPROACH, BUT IT'S TAILORED TOWARDS EACH PROJECT.
SO OFTENTIMES WE HAVE HAVE CLIENTS THAT REALLY DON'T NECESSARILY WANNA GET INTO THE INPUT SIDE OF IT.
SO LET'S GET REACTION TO WHAT WE'VE DONE.
SO WE START SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE, MAYBE WE START EARLIER.
WE HAVE OPEN HOUSES AND JUST BRAINSTORMING IDEAS.
SO WE HAVE, UH, MANY DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN, UH, PERFORM THIS TASK AND WE'LL TAR TAILOR IT TO THE PROJECT AS WE GET INTO IT.
NOW, WE DO LIKE TO HOLD COMMUNITY WORKSHOPS, UH, FOCUSED ON EDUCATION, INFORMATION VISIONING.
SO KIND OF THE, THE PROCESSES ALONG, UH, DESIGN PROJECT, UM, UH, EXPERIENTIAL ENGAGEMENT IS A, A KEY COMPONENT TO THIS.
IF WE CAN GET THE PUBLIC TO THE TOWN ARENA, THEY CAN SEE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR THEM TO SUPPORT, RIGHT? THEY CAN SEE THE CONDITIONS, UNDERSTAND 'EM, WE CAN HAVE WALKTHROUGHS THAT WAY.
UH, BUT NOT EVERYBODY CAN DO THAT.
SO WE ALSO NEED TO, TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR GO TO THEM EVENTS WHERE WE WE MOVE THAT AROUND TO DIFFERENT PLACES TO, TO GET MORE, MORE VOICES.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH DIGITAL RESOURCES, WEBSITES, SURVEYS, UM, YOU KNOW, DIGITAL, UH, BLAST EMAILS, THINGS THAT CAN GET THE MESSAGE OUT SO THAT PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF THE PROJECT.
UM, AND THE RESULT OF THAT IS INFORMED DECISION MAKING, RIGHT? EFFECTIVE, UH, EVALUATIONS OF WHAT WE'VE DONE, UH, WHAT THE PROCESS WAS TO GET THERE.
AND, UH, JUSTIFICATION FOR WHY WE CHOOSE A, A SPECIFIC PATH.
WE HAVE DEVELOPED AN EVALUATION MATRIX THAT TAKES OBJECTIVE DESIGN AND PUTS IT INTO SUBJECTIVE, UH, UH, ELEMENTS SO THAT IT, IT'S, IT'S COMPARABLE, UH, TO DETERMINE WHAT THE BEST VALUE PROJECT IS.
UH, THERE WAS ALSO A QUESTION ABOUT, UH, OUR CONSTRUCTION INTEGRATION.
UH, AND THIS IS A WIDE RANGE, UH, DEPENDING ON THE PROJECT.
SO WE HAVE SOME WHERE WE'RE JUST KIND OF IN, IN THE BACKGROUND AND, AND THE CONTRACTORS TAKING OUR WORK AND IS RUNNING WITH IT.
UH, WE TRY TO MAKE AS EFFECTIVE DOCUMENTATION AS POSSIBLE, SO THEY COULD DO THAT WITHOUT OUR HELP.
UH, BUT IT'S ALSO NICE TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS, TO BE COLLABORATIVE WITH CONTRACTORS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE SEE HOW THAT GOES.
ALL THE WAY TO, UH, RESIDENT PROJECT REPRESENTATIVE STATUS, WHERE THERE'S SOMEBODY ON THE JOB SITE 40 HOURS A WEEK WITH THE CONTRACTOR SO THAT THEY'RE ALWAYS THERE TO ADD ANSWER QUESTIONS, UH, TAKE CARE OF THINGS AS ISSUES ARISE DURING CONSTRUCTION.
UM, ONE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT ABOUT CONSTRUCTION IS THAT GOOD PROJECTS OR EFFECTIVE CONSTRUCTION EFFECTIVE COLLABORATION STARTS LONG BEFORE THE HAMMER STARTS SWINGING, RIGHT? IT STARTS DURING THE DESIGN PROCESS WITH MAKING GOOD DECISIONS OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO ACHIEVE THINGS.
AND FOR THAT, WE HAVE THE BENEFIT OF HAVING A SISTER COMPANY DJB BUILT, UH, WHICH FOCUSES ON OWNER'S, REPRESENTATIVE, UH, SERVICES AND CONSTRUCTABILITY REVIEWS.
THEY DO ALL OF OUR COST ESTIMATING.
AND SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE ABLE TO GIVE US CLUES WHILE WE'RE IN THE DESIGN PROCESS OF THINGS THAT THEY ARE, ARE CLUED INTO, INTO THE CONSTRUCTION WORLD.
UM, ARE, ARE WE SEEING THINGS THAT ARE LONG LEAD ITEMS WHERE WE COULD CHOOSE OTHER MATERIALS OR OTHER SYSTEMS THAT MIGHT BE FASTER, LESS EXPENSIVE, UM, OR, OR BETTER OVERALL FOR THE PROJECT? UH, THEY CAN LOOK AT OUR DETAILS AS WE'RE DEVELOPING THEM AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE, ARE RIGHT FROM A CONSTRUCTION STANDPOINT.
SO THAT'S REALLY WHEN SUCCESSFUL CONSTRUCTION STARTS IS DURING THE DESIGN PROCESS.
SO WHAT IS OUR DESIGN PROCESS AND OUR APPROACH? I GUESS THE FIRST THING THAT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT THERE IS, THERE'S VARIABLES AND THERE'S CONSTANTS.
AND ONE OF THE CONSTANTS ON THIS PROJECT IS REPAIRING THE RINK, UH, WHICH STARTED OUT AS REPLACING THE, THE REFRIGERATION SYSTEMS. AND IN THE MOST RECENT NOTES OF, OF THE EXPECTATIONS FOR THE PROJECT WOULD BE TO ADD REPLACEMENT OF THE DASHER BOARDS AND THE RING SLAB REPLACEMENT.
SO WITH THAT, WE STARTED TALKING TO SCOTT WARD OF B 32, UH, TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THIS MEANT.
AND, AND THERE WERE A COUPLE OF KEY THINGS THAT HE POINTED OUT.
THIS PART OF THE ENDEAVOR ALONE IS PROBABLY ABOUT $2 MILLION OF COST BETWEEN, UH, THE NEW MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT, REFRIGERATION EQUIPMENT, THE TEARING UP THE, THE EXISTING SLAB, REPLACING IT WITH THE SLAB, WITH THE COOLING SYSTEM IN IT, AND, UH, BUYING NEW DASHBOARDS.
SO WHEN WE SEE ON, ON THE LIST THAT THERE'S A $5 MILLION BUDGET FOR THIS, RIGHT OFF THE TOP, WE'VE KNOWN THAT 2 MILLION NEEDS TO BE ALLOCATED TO THIS.
SO THAT'S GONNA FACTOR INTO A LOT OF THE STEPS THAT WE TAKE AFTER THIS.
UH, THE OTHER THING THAT, THAT HE'S
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MENTIONED TO US IS, IS THAT THE EQUIPMENT RIGHT NOW IS ON A, A REALLY LONG LEAD TOP.HE'S SEEN 40 WEEKS, 50 WEEKS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO IF WE STARTED DESIGN TODAY AND RESPECTFUL OF OUR DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHEN THIS WANTED TO HAPPEN, BECAUSE YOU WANNA MAXIMIZE THE ICE SEASON, IT, IT IS LIKELY THAT CONSTRUCTION WOULD REALLY NOT HAPPEN UNTIL SUMMER OF 2024.
UM, TO, TO JUMP IN FOR CONSTRUCTION NEXT SUMMER, WOULD NOT, UH, HAVE THE EQUIPMENT IN TIME, WHICH MEANS THAT WE WOULD THEN PUSH INTO THE, THE REVENUE SEASON OF THE ICE RINK, UH, OR HAVE TO FIND OTHER METHODS, UH, AT THAT POINT.
SO IT REALLY MAKES SENSE TO LOOK AT SUMMER OF 2024.
I MENTIONED THAT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
WE MAY CIRCLE BACK TO THAT AT SOME POINT.
UM, SO WHAT DID, WHAT'S THE REMAINDER IF $2 MILLION IS TIED UP IN THAT, THAT'S THE VARIABLES THAT WE WANNA DETERMINE.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT ALLOCATION CAN BE SPENT IN, IN MULTIPLE WAYS.
IT COULD BE RENOVATION OF WHAT'S THERE, IT COULD BE SOME COMBINATION OF RENOVATION AND, UH, BUT NEW ADDITION OR ALL NEW ADDITION, WE NEED TO FIND WHAT THAT RIGHT BEST PROJECT IS.
BEST VALUE DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN LOWEST COST, OR IT MEANS WHAT GETS THE MOST NEEDS FOR THAT COST.
SO, UH, THAT'S WHY WE THINK THAT THE FEASIBILITY STUDY IS A CRITICAL PART OF THIS, UH, BECAUSE WE, WE WANT TO ANA ANALYZE THE BUILDING AND DETERMINE WHAT WE CAN DO WITH IT.
SO WE GO THROUGH A PROCESS WITH OUR FEASIBILITY STUDIES WHERE WE WORK WITH YOU TO DETERMINE WHAT'S THE BIG IDEA, WHAT SUPPORTS SUCCESS FOR THIS PROJECT, REGARDLESS OF PERSONAL TASTE OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE OR, OR THIS OR THAT.
WHAT CAN WE DO TOGETHER TO, TO BE SUCCESSFUL? AND THEN HOW DO WE USE TOOLS OF DATA COLLECTION, BUILDING ANALYSIS, NEEDS, ASSESSMENT PROGRAMMING, UH, TO ESTABLISH AN IDEA AND THEN GO BACK AND MEASURE IT AGAIN AGAINST THE, THE WAY THAT WE START.
AND WE CONTINUE TO DO THAT UNTIL WE'VE DETERMINED WHAT THAT RIGHT BEST VALUE PROJECT IS.
UM, SO, OKAY, AS I MENTIONED, ONE OF THE KEY COMPONENTS IS THE BUILDING EVALUATION.
UH, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS WITHIN THE BUILDING THAT DO NEED REPAIR, UH, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE DOING THIS PROJECT.
UM, BUT THEY ARE, UH, A, A KEY ASPECT OF HOW WE GET TO, UH, FIGURING OUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, WHAT IT COSTS, AND WHAT'S THE HIGHEST PRIORITY.
SO ALONG WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED, THE NEXT STEP IN OUR PROCESS IS TO TAKE WHAT WE LEARNED FROM THE FEASIBILITY STUDY AND THE BUILDING EVALUATION IS TO GO THROUGH PROGRAMMING.
UM, THROUGH OUR PROGRAMMING PHASE, WE WOULD COMBINE BOTH OUR, UM, CURRENT TRENDS, FIND THAT WE'RE FINDING FROM OUR OTHER PROJECTS, AS WELL AS WHAT DO YOU GUYS NEED? AND NOT JUST NOW, BUT WHAT'S, WHAT'S A FUTURE THING YOU MAY NEED? AND LOOKING AT THE ADJACENCIES AND COMING UP WITH THOSE SPATIAL ADJACENCIES TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOTTA BE NEXT TO EACH OTHER AS WE START TO DEVELOP INTO THE NEXT PHASE.
SO FROM THAT, AGAIN, THIS IS ALL PRELIMINARY, IT'S JUST OUR, IN A VACUUM TRYING TO LOOK AT THINGS BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW, BOTH MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE AT, AT AN ICE RINK AS WELL AS OUR PROJECT.
WHAT'S, WHAT, WHAT, HOW DO WE TAKE THE SPECIAL IN, INTO A SCHEMATIC DESIGN LEVEL PLAN.
THIS IS THEN, FROM THIS POINT FORWARD, IS THEN TURNING INTO WHAT A STANDARD PROJECT LOOKS LIKE.
SO AFTER THIS, WE TAKE IT TO DD CD CA, WE DEVELOP INTO THAT NEXT SET OF DOCUMENTS.
THIS COULD BE ANYTHING, RIGHT? THIS IS ALL ABOUT OUR PROCESS, RIGHT? IS WE, WE GO FROM ONE TO THE NEXT, TO THE NEXT TO THE NEXT, AND THIS IS THE KEY, THE NEXT STEP WITHIN THAT.
ONE THING TO ADD TOO, THIS IS THE POINT WHERE OUR COST ESTIMATOR COMES IN TO SAY, WHAT IS THE COST OF THIS? IT MAY, WE HAVE THREE VERSIONS OF THIS AND THREE DIFFERENT COSTS.
AND THEN WE UTILIZE THAT MATRIX THAT STEVE MENTIONED BEFORE ABOUT WHAT'S, YEAH, YOU COMPARE COSTS, BUT WHAT DO YOU COMPARE TO A BUNCH OF OTHER THINGS? WHAT ARE YOU GETTING? AND THEN YOU GUYS CAN DECIDE WHAT IS REALLY THE BEST SOLUTION FOR THE TOWN OF HAMBURG.
AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, WE GO INTO CD DOCUMENTS, WHICH IS WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE CONTRACTOR USED TO SEEING.
YOU'RE NOT HIRING US TO DO CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.
ANY, ANYBODY, ANY ARCHITECT DO CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.
WHAT YOU'RE HIRING US TO DO TO HELP YOU WITH VISION, RIGHT? IS THAT WE WANT TO HELP YOU REALIZE WHAT IS THE BEST POTENTIAL FOR THIS PROJECT.
MAYBE IT'S A STRAIGHT RENOVATION, MAYBE IT'S THAT BULLETED LIST THAT WE STARTED WITH, BUT MAYBE IT IS IT, THERE'S MORE TO IT, RIGHT? SO WE OFFERED UP A SUGGESTION DURING THE, THE FIRST INTERVIEW, AND WE'VE KIND OF TAKEN THAT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.
AND, AND IT IS, WHAT IF THERE'S A FUTURE OF, OF THIS ARENA THAT THERE'S A SECOND SHEET, RIGHT? ALL OF THE COACHES, ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE TALKED ABOUT, WELL, THERE'S NEVER ENOUGH ICE TIME.
WE HAVE TO GO ON THE ROAD FOR HOME GAMES IN SOME SITUATIONS.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALSO THE POTENTIAL, IF THERE WERE, WAS A FUTURE RINK THAT MAYBE ONE GOES DOWN FOR THE SUMMER, BUT MAYBE ONE IS KEPT ICE FOR THE SUMMER SO THERE'S MORE ICE TIME
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AND COULD BE MORE REVENUE, IF THAT WAS THE CASE, RIGHT? THEN WE WOULD WANT TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE'RE PROGRAMMING AND LOCATING SPACES, COMING UP WITH THE CONCEPTS SO THAT WE'RE NOT RENOVATING AND THEN RENOVATING AGAIN WHEN THAT DAY COMES, UM, THAT WE'RE NOT MAKING THE MISTAKE, UH, OF, OF SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO FIX.SO VISION IS REALLY WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE SELLING FOR THIS.
UH, AND WE'LL ACTUALLY TAKE IT ONE STEP FURTHER.
UM, SO A SUGGESTION WAS THROWN OUT THERE, THERE WHILE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS.
UM, WHAT IF THE MONEY THAT WAS ALLOCATED TO THE PROJECT TODAY ACTUALLY WENT TOWARDS A NEW SHEET OF ICE? AND THE REASONS FOR THAT WOULD BE THAT YOU COULD BUILD IN SOME OF THOSE AMENITIES RIGHT THE FIRST TIME AND NOT WORRY ABOUT THE SINS OF THE PAST IN THE EXISTING BUILDING, TRYING TO FIX THOSE.
BUT YOU WOULD HAVE NEW OPERATIONS THAT, OR CURRENT OPERATIONS COULD BE MAINTAINED WHILE THE BUILDING IS BEING BUILT.
NEW OPERATIONS COULD THEN GENERATE REVENUE WHEN IT WAS TIME TO, TO RENOVATE THE OTHER PORTION OF THE BUILDING.
UM, TALK TO SCOTT WARD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT.
UH, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T FIT PERFECTLY INTO THE $5 MILLION BUDGET, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO HELP YOU THINK AHEAD TO WHAT WOULD BE MOST SUCCESSFUL FOR THE TOWN.
AND IF THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET EVERYBODY ICE'S TIME AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AND TO GENERATE REVENUE TO FUND SOME OF THE OTHER, UH, REPAIRS, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WANTED TO CONSIDER.
SO ULTIMATELY WE ARE TRYING TO HELP YOU WITH THE VISION, UH, TO WELCOME THE COMMUNITY TO A NEW, UH, HAMBURG TOWN ARENA, UH, THAT EVERYBODY CAN USE.
WE DO HAVE A COUPLE MINUTES SAVED IF THE TOWN BOARD HAS ANY QUESTIONS.
AND IF WE DO RUN OUT OF TIME, FUNNEL YOUR QUESTIONS THROUGH ME AND I WILL GET THEM TO THE VARIOUS FIRMS OR TO ALL OF THEM IF IT'S A QUESTION YOU WANT EVERYONE TO ANSWER.
SO, ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME IN TERMS OF THE FEASIBILITY STUDY, WHAT WOULD YOU ESTIMATE IS THAT TIMEFRAME? SO, UH, TWO THINGS.
ONE IS THE, UM, REFRIGERATION EQUIPMENT HAS BEEN KIND OF A, ON A DIFFERENT SCHEDULE, RIGHT? SO IF WE COULD GET TO A SUMMER 2023, UH, PATH, WE WOULD WANT TO START THAT RIGHT AWAY OUTSIDE OF THE FEASIBILITY STUDY.
THAT COULD HAPPEN CONCURRENTLY.
UH, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THAT.
SO DON'T, DON'T LET THE FEASIBILITY STUDY AFFECT THAT, THAT TIMELINE.
UH, TYPICALLY WE'RE SEEING, UH, A FEASIBILITY STUDY RUNS IN THE RANGE OF THREE TO FOUR MONTHS.
IT DEPENDS ON, ON HOW MUCH EVALUATION WE HAVE TO DO.
THERE'S ALSO HAZARDOUS MATERIALS OF THE EXISTING BUILDING THAT WE PROBABLY HAVE TO GET IN AND CHECK.
SO THERE'S SOME TESTING THAT REQUIRES SOME TIME.
UM, BUT THE FEASIBILITY STUDY ALSO GETS THROUGH CONCEPTS, RIGHT? SO IT'S, IT'S THE COST ESTIMATING THAT'S PART OF IT.
IT'S TRYING TO DETERMINE WHAT THOSE THREE CONCEPTS MIGHT BE SO WE CAN EVALUATE THEM AGAINST EACH OTHER.
SO IN THE THREE TO FOUR MONTH RANGE, WE COULD EVALUATE THE BUILDING, COME UP WITH THE CONCEPTS, UH, TWEAK THEM A LITTLE BIT, DO THE COST ESTIMATING, COMPARE THEM REPORT.
AND ONE OF THE BIG, UH, IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
UH, HOW LONG DO YOU ANTICIPATE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, UH, TO HAPPEN IN TERMS OF GETTING INPUT, DOING SURVEYS, UM, HAVING MEETINGS, UH, OPEN COMMUNICATION WITH THE PUBLIC? SO, UH, AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S, UM, IT'S DEPENDENT UPON THE, THE LEVEL THAT YOU WANT TO GO TO.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE RECENTLY DID, OR WE'RE WORKING ON THE TERMINAL BEAT PROJECT IN THE OUTER HARBOR.
UH, WE WENT THROUGH EIGHT MONTHS OF, OF OPEN HOUSES AND, AND PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT BEFORE ANYTHING EVER STARTED.
SO WE COULD GET AS MUCH INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE, TEST IT AGAIN, GET SOME FEEDBACK TESTED AGAIN.
UM, BUT I MEAN, THIS COULD BE THREE MEETINGS, RIGHT? IT COULD BE AN INITIAL MEETING AS WE'RE EARLY ON IN, IN THE FEASIBILITY PHASE, SO THAT WE'RE JUST COLLECTING INPUT.
WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD WORK HERE? WHAT DO, WHAT DO YOU WANNA SEE? UH, WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE WHEN WE'RE AT THE END OF THE FEASIBILITY PHASE.
SO IT'S, WELL, THIS IS, THIS IS WHERE WE GOT TO, WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE BEST? AND THEN THERE'S ONE AS WE START INTO, YOU KNOW, DESIGN TO SAY, HEY, DO YOU THINK WE ACHIEVED, UH, WHAT, WHAT WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO? SO IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE A SEPARATE TIMELINE THAN EVERYTHING ELSE.
IT CAN WEAVE INTO, UH, THE DESIGN PHASES.
SO IS IT SAFE TO SAY THAT? YEAH.
IS IT, IS IT SAFE TO SAY THAT THAT GOES PRETTY MUCH UNTIL COMPLETION? OR IS IT UPFRONT THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND THEN IT'S PRETTY MUCH DONE? I, I THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S
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A SHARED DISCUSSION, UH, ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT WE WANNA ACHIEVE.WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE PUBLIC IS HAPPY WITH THE PROJECT, RIGHT? SO WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE THAT RIGHT ON THROUGH TO THE END.
UM, BUT IF YOU AS A COMMUNITY ONLY WANT, YOU KNOW, LET'S GET FEEDBACK TO THIS POINT, BUT THEN WE'RE COMMITTING THESE DOLLARS AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD, WE DON'T NEED TO CONTINUE TO TAKE IT.
SO IT REALLY IS A SHARED AGREEMENT ON, ON WHAT WE THINK IS THE BEST.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OUR EXPERIENCE FROM COMMUNITIES ALL OVER.
YOU HAVE YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH YOUR COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY'RE AFTER.
SO THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO COMBINE THOSE TWO, UH, AREAS OF EXPERTISE TO COME UP WITH THE BEST METHOD.
I FEEL LIKE IT DIDN'T ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
WELL, LET'S JUST, WELL, WHY DON'T WE GET EVEN MORE SPECIFIC.
IN ALL YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH YOUR COMMUNITIES, WHAT'S THE SHORTEST TIMEFRAME YOU'VE HAD THE DIALOGUE? WHAT'S THE LONGEST PERIOD OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT BEFORE YOU SAY, OKAY, WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO, NOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
OKAY, SO SHORTEST ACTUALLY IS COMMUNITIES THAT WANT TO PRODUCE SOMETHING BEFORE THEY GET INPUT
SO THEY START THE CONCEPTS, WE'VE DEVELOPED THREE OF THEM OR, OR SOMETHING, AND THEN WE PUT IT OUT TO THE PUBLIC.
WHAT DO YOU THINK? RIGHT? LET'S GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON THAT.
UM, SO THAT, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU ELIMINATE THE FRONT END PART OF IT.
UM, UP TO YOU GUYS, WHETHER YOU THINK THAT'S A SMART DECISION OR NOT, BUT, UH, RIGHT.
THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY TO GET TO THE SHORTEST IS THIS IS WHAT WE'VE DONE.
GIVE US, GIVE US YOUR FEEDBACK AS TO WHICH YOU THINK IS THE BEST.
UH, THE LONGEST I WOULD SAY IS PROBABLY THE, THE OUTER HARBOR PROJECT WHERE WE SPENT MULTIPLE YEARS BEFORE WE, WE EVER REALLY STARTED IN ON, ON THE DESIGN PHASE.
SO IT WAS A COUPLE YEARS OF, OF FEASIBILITY STUDY IF YOU'LL, UH, THAT ALSO INCLUDED A MARKET ANALYSIS, WHAT COULD GO THERE.
THE, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE COMPLETELY OUTSIDE OF, OF THIS PROJECT, UM, PROBABLY OUTSIDE OF THIS PROJECT.
I THINK WE HAVE TO KEEP MOVING, SO, OKAY.
NO, I LET YOU RUN A LITTLE LONG.
WE STARTED JUST A LITTLE, I GIVE EVERYONE SO LAPTOP.
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OH LOOK.I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF ARCHITECTURE WITH D ASSOCIATES, AND I WANNA THANK YOU FOR GIVING THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME TALK TO YOU, PRESENT TO YOU, UM, GIVE YOU OUR THOUGHTS ON THIS EXCITING AND, UM, VERY TIMELY PROJECT.
SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR A LONG TIME IS DESPERATELY NEEDED HERE.
SO I WANNA QUICKLY IN QUICKLY INTRODUCE MY TEAM THAT WE HAVE HERE WITH US TODAY.
UM, REPRESENTING HIGHLAND ON OUR PUBLIC OUTREACH CONSULTANT IS NANCY REKA.
AND WITH M ENGINEERING IS ERIC MILLER, OUR MEP CO CONSULTANTS.
UM, SCOTT WARD WE PROBABLY SAW PREVIOUSLY IS, UM, FROM B 32.
AND WITH DEAN NANO ASSOCIATES.
TODAY WE HAVE JOHN DEANO, WHO'S THE PRESIDENT OF DDO ASSOCIATES.
UM, JULIE TERMS FROM MARKETING, MATT MCDA FROM CIVIL UM, ENGINEERING.
AND FINALLY, JIM WALINSKI, WHO'S OUR PROJECT MANAGER FOR THIS PROJECT, UH, IN ADDITION TO BEING AN EXTRAORDINARY HOCKEY DAD WHO SPENT THOMAS HOURS IN HOCKEY RINKS, INCLUDING YOUR OWN.
SO, UM, WITH THAT SAID, I'LL HAND IT OVER TO JIM.
LIKE MIKE SAID, I'M JIM WAKI WITH DEAN AUTO ASSOCIATES, AND WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH OUR PRESENTATION TODAY, UH, A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN MAYBE SOME OF YOU SAW LAST TIME, BUT WE WANTED TO REALLY KIND OF TOUCH ON, ON THE FOUR, THE FOUR AREAS THAT, THAT WERE BROUGHT TO LIGHT, UH, MOST RECENTLY WITH OUR PROCESS AND APPROACH, ALONG WITH THE TIMELINES, UH, PLAN FOR OUR PUBLIC OUTREACH AND OUR EXPERIENCE WITH OUR SUB CONSULTS, AND ALSO OUR RECOMMENDED APPROACH TO CONSTRUCTION, OBSERVATION AND COMMUNICATION DURING, DURING THAT TIME.
SO, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I'M GONNA JUMP RIGHT INTO IT WITH OUR PROJECT UNDERSTANDING AND APPROACH.
NOW WE KNOW ONE OF THE BIG IMPORTANCE IMPORTANT FEATURES TO THIS RINK IS THE ICE, THE ICE, UM, OPERATIONS, YOUR PLANT, THE ICE SURFACE, AND, AND THE DASHER BOARDS.
SO WE'RE GONNA FOCUS THERE FIRST.
THAT SEEMS TO BE THE HOT BUTTON TO GET TO GET ON THE BOARD.
SO WITH ALL PROJECTS, WE FIRST START OUT, WE WANNA MEET WITH ALL OF YOU.
WE WANNA MEET WITH EVERYBODY THAT'S INVOLVED WITH THE PROJECT FROM THE TOWN, WITH THE RINK FACILITIES, AND WITH ANY OF THE HOCKEY ORGANIZATIONS OR ANY OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT USE THE FACILITY JUST TO GET A WHOLE UNDERSTANDING OF THIS PROJECT.
ONCE WE GET THROUGH ALL THAT, WHICH WILL INCLUDE NANCY WITH OUR PUBLIC OUTREACH, SHE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE.
WE GET INTO EVALUATING YOUR EXISTING FACILITIES, WHAT KIND OF, WHAT KIND OF DOCUMENTATION DO WE HAVE AVAILABLE.
WE'LL GET IN THERE, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AROUND, WE'LL MEASURE THINGS UP, WE'LL GET ALL THE INFORMATION WE NEED ON YOUR MECHANICAL SYSTEMS, YOUR STRUCTURE, WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE, SOILS, EVERYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA MOVE INTO CONCEPT DESIGNS, CONCEPT DESIGN.
WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH APPROVAL PROCESSES WHERE WE, WE HIT ALL THE ITEMS THAT, THAT ARE ON YOUR LIST.
WE WISHLIST, AND WE'RE GONNA COME UP WITH A CON COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BASED ON EVERYBODY'S INPUT.
ONCE THAT'S COMPLETED, WE ARE GONNA START KIND OF LOOKING AT TIMELINE.
THIS, THIS KIND OF RELATES TO OUR TIMELINE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE GONE THROUGH THIS YET, BUT WE DO ANTICIPATE, WE KNOW IT'S A, A HOT TOPIC PROJECT, BUT IN TALKING WITH SCOTT, WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME HICCUPS IN THE ROAD IN TERMS OF LONG LEAD ITEMS AND SUPPLY CHAINS.
SO SCOTT, I THINK I WANT TO TURN IT TO YOU FOR A MOMENT TO KIND OF DISCUSS THAT A LITTLE BIT.
YEAH, CAN, CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YEP.
UM, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY ON A PROJECT LIKE THIS, WE WOULD LIKE TO GET IT OUT FOR BID EARLY, LIKE IN OCTOBER FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR.
AND THAT GIVES A, USUALLY GIVES A CONTRACTOR PLENTY OF TIME TO, UM, START THE PROJECT IN MARCH OR APRIL WHEN YOU'RE TAKING DOWN YOUR ICE SHEET AND HAVE EQUIPMENT ORDERED AND ARRIVING IN MAY, JUNE, PLENTY OF TIME TO GET IT ALL INSTALLED AND READY TO GO FOR THE FALL.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY WITH ALL THE SUPPLY CHAIN PROBLEMS, WE'RE SEEING, UM, A FEW MAJOR PIECES OF EQUIPMENT OUT ALMOST A YEAR.
SO WE ARE BIDDING PROJECTS IN, UM,
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NOW, RIGHT NOW, END OF JUNE, FIRST PART OF JULY IN ORDER TO RECEIVE IT MID MIDDLE OF 2023 OR TOWARDS THE END OF 2023, BUT JUST IN TIME TO GET UP AND RUNNING FOR THE FALL OF 2023.SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE, THAT DOESN'T GIVE US ANY TIME TO DESIGN OR ANYTHING FOR THIS PROJECT.
SO REALLY, UM, UNLESS THINGS CHANGE, IT WOULD BE NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO, UM, START CONSTRUCTION IN 2023 ON THE ICE SYSTEM PART OF IT ANYWAYS.
UM, YOU'RE ALMOST LOOKING AT 2024 TO START CONSTRUCTION WITHOUT INTERRUPTING YOUR REGULAR SEASON.
I MEAN, WE COULD LOOK AT A TEMPORARY CHILLER SYSTEM FOR 2023 AND BUILD THE PERMANENT NEW REFRIGERATION SYSTEM OVER THE, THE ICE SEASON.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S A POSSIBILITY.
UM, I WILL TELL YOU THOUGH, TEMPORARY CHILLERS ARE GETTING HARDER AND HARDER TO SECURE JUST BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S IN THE SAME BOAT WITH SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES.
SO, SO YEAH, UNFORTUNATELY IT'S, UM, NOT GOOD NEWS WHEN IT COMES TO REFRIGERATION EQUIPMENT.
SO AS PART OF THE PRODUCT AS WELL, IT, YOU KNOW, THE RINK WOULD, WOULD REQUIRE SOME MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL AND PLUMBING UPGRADES AS WELL IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THE NEW ICE SURFACE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND ERIC, DID YOU WANT TO, I COULD JUST REINFORCE WHAT SCOTT SAYS.
FROM A MECHANICAL STANDPOINT, UM, SPECIALTY EQUIPMENT LIKE DEIFICATION WITH US, THOSE ARE OUT ABOUT A YEAR RIGHT NOW, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LESS.
UM, ELECTRICAL GEAR IS PARTICULARLY DIFFICULT TO FIND, SO SCOTT'S SEEING IT ON THE ICE EQUIPMENT.
WE'RE SEEING IT ON A KIND OF MORE MAINSTREAM, UM, MECHANICAL AND ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT WHEN YOU GET INTO A PROJECT THAT IS THIS SUBSTANTIAL.
SO JUST TO KIND OF REINFORCE THAT, UH, THOSE ARE THE CHALLENGES THAT, THAT ARE OUT THERE AND, AND THE SOLUTION IS JUST HOW WE, HOW WE KIND OF COMMUNICATE TOGETHER AS A TEAM AND INCORPORATE, YOU KNOW, THOSE LONG LEADS WITH THE DESIGN AND THE OUTREACH IN ORDER TO KIND OF MAKE THE PROJECT AS A WHOLE COME IN ON THE SCHEDULE THAT WE NEED.
RIGHT? SO THAT BEING SAID, WE CAN GO AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE WOULD BE GETTING INTO THE ICE SYSTEM EQUIPMENT AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
WE'LL START TAKING A LOOK AT THE BUILDING FACILITY ITSELF, ALL THE ITEMS ON THE LIST, YOUR LOCKER ROOMS, YOUR REFEREE ROOMS, RESTROOMS, STORE SPACES, YOUR MEETINGS AND CLASSROOM SPACES WITH YOUR OFFICES, PRO SHOPS, STATE RENTALS AND CONCESSION SPACES, MAIN ENTRANCE, WHICH IS A BIG ONE.
AND, AND ALL THE ASSOCIATE MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT.
UH, AGAIN, SEPARATE TOGETHER, BUT ALL WITHIN THE SAME REALM.
WE WOULD BE DOING VERY SIMILAR, UH, MEETINGS AND, AND CONCEPT DRAWINGS AND SCHEMATIC DESIGNS AND APPROVALS.
AND WE'D BE LOOKING FOR EVERYBODY TO AGAIN, BE ON THE SAME PAGE.
AND ONCE WE'VE KIND OF COME UP WITH DESIGNS, WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT STEP.
SO THE WAY THE SCHEDULE WORKS OUT, DO WE FORESEE IT IN THIS EARLY PHASE IS WE BEGINNING, WE KICK OFF OUR DESIGN BUILDING RIGHT, RIGHT AWAY, SAME AS SAME AS OUR ICE RINK.
THIS ONE THOUGH CAN STRETCH OUT A LITTLE BIT LONGER.
WE DON'T ANTICIPATE BEING ABLE TO PUT THAT ENTIRE WISHLIST TOGETHER FOR THE DISH YEAR EITHER.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE FLIP FLOP AND DO THE BUILDING FIRST AND THEN THE ICE SECOND, ALONG WITH THE, THE PUBLIC OUTREACH AND ALL THE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS THAT YOU, THAT YOU HAVE IN THIS PROJECT.
THIS WOULD BE ONE WHERE WE DO TAKE MORE OF A STEP APPROACH SIMILAR TO THE ICE, BUT A LITTLE MORE DRAWN OUT OUR BUILDING CONCEPTS.
THAT'S GONNA TAKE A LITTLE WHILE TO PUT TOGETHER, THAT'S GONNA TAKE A LITTLE WHILE TO GET ALL THE INFORMATION WE NEED FROM, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY AND FROM YOURSELVES AND, AND, AND REALLY MELD THAT TOGETHER AND PUT THAT TOGETHER.
ONCE WE HAVE THOSE APPROVALS, WE STEP TO THE NEXT PHASE SCHEMATIC DESIGN, DESIGN DEVELOPMENT DOWN IN THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS WITH A, WITH AN ESTIMATED BIDDING PERIOD SOMEWHERE IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS TYPICALLY THAT'S WHEN EVERYBODY ELSE SLOWS DOWN, BUT THEN ALSO AFFORDS US ENOUGH TIME TO GET CONTRACTS UNDERWAY.
UH, IT, IT ALLOWS THE CONTRACTOR TO GET THEIR SUBMITTALS INTO US SO WE CAN REVIEW ALL THE MATERIALS AND EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE ASKED FOR.
THOSE GET REVIEWED AND THEY CAN PUT THEIR ORDERS IN FOR THEIR MATERIALS.
SO THEY'LL BE READY TO GO IN APRIL WHEN THE ICE IS SHUT DOWN TO START ON THEIR CONSTRUCTION.
THIS KIND OF PUTS, THIS IS WHERE WE PUT BOTH TIMELINES TOGETHER.
UM, AS YOU CAN KIND OF SEE OUR, OUR ISIGHT SYSTEM GETS READY TO GO FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
WE GET INTO OUR BUILDING CONCEPTS, WE DO BOUNCE AROUND A LITTLE BIT.
ONE THING I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THOUGH, WITH A BIT PERIOD OF JUNE FOR THE ICE SYSTEMS,
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THIS KIND OF RELATES TO, GETS A NEW BUDGET A LITTLE BIT, WE WILL HAVE A PRICE AT THAT POINT WITH THE BIDS THAT COME IN THAT TELLS US WHAT OUR REMAINING BUDGET IS.SO AS WE MOVE THROUGH OUR DESIGN ON OUR BUILDING, WE KNOW IF WE HAVE TO CUT BACK, WE HAVE TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS OR WE HAVE TO DO ANYTHING SPECIFIC, MORE MONEY, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, WE CAN MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS SOON ENOUGH SO THAT WHEN THE, WHEN THE DOCUMENTS GO OUT, WE'RE ALL SET TO GO AND WE END UP WITH A PRODUCT THAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO SEE.
SO I GUESS, YEAH, WE CAN GO OFF FROM HERE.
SPEAKING OF THE BUDGET, PURELY CONCEPTUAL, JUST KIND OF WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE FUNDING KIND OF USUALLY BUYS.
UH, CONSTRUCTION BUDGET IS USUALLY 85 TO 90% OF THE TOTAL, TOTAL BUDGET.
WE SET MONEY ASIDE FOR TESTING SOILS, HAZARDOUS MATERIALS, ESPECIALLY IN A BUILDING LIKE THIS, OF THIS AGE.
UH, A CONSTRUCTION CONTINGENCY FOR ANY UNFORESEEN CONDITIONS THAT COME UP AS WE GET INTO TAKING THINGS APART BEFORE WE PUT 'EM BACK TOGETHER.
AND ALSO THAT ALSO INCORPORATES DESIGN FEES, PUBLIC EDUCATION PARTICIPATION.
NANCY? YEAH, I'M NANCY RAY FROM HIGHLAND PLANNING AND, UM, THANKS FOR HAVING US HERE TONIGHT.
UM, HIGHLAND PLANNING IS, UH, OUR BREAD AND BUTTER IS PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.
AND WE'VE WORKED EXTENSIVELY WITH ANADO.
WE'VE WORKED EXTENSIVELY IN WESTERN NEW YORK, AND MOST RECENTLY WE ALSO WORKED ON THE HAMBURG COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO, UM, WE ARE, WE HAVE A LITTLE FAMILIARITY WITH THE TOWN.
UM, AS JIM WAS SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA INITIATE OUTREACH OFTEN AND EARLY AND WHAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN? WHAT IT REALLY MEANS IS, FIRST WE START WITH MEETING WITH THE TOWN AND FINDING OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE YOUR GOALS FOR THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, WHAT ARE THE ELEMENTS OF THIS PROJECT THAT THE PUBLIC CAN INFLUENCE? AND THEN WE IDENTIFY, UM, KEY STAKEHOLDERS AND WE DO WHAT WE CALL PRE-ENGAGEMENT INTERVIEWS WITH, UH, A FEW KEY STAKEHOLDERS, UH, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE, THE MORE TECHNICAL INTERVIEWS THAT D WOULD DO.
WE LIKE TO, UH, DO THOSE INTERVIEWS TO KIND OF GET THE LAY OF THE LAND, UNDERSTAND KEY ISSUES AND OPPORTUNITIES, WHAT PEOPLE ARE REALLY HOPING FOR OUT OF THIS.
AND THEN THAT HELPS US PUT TOGETHER OUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PLAYBOOK, WHICH IS WHAT, WHICH IS CUSTOMIZED TO YOUR PROJECT AND WHICH HELPS US, UH, SEE WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO THE WHOLE TIME.
AND, UM, SO WE HA KNOW SOME WHO SOME OF THE KEY STAKEHOLDERS ARE BESIDES THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, THE, THE HIGH SCHOOL, THE HOCKEY CLUBS, THE, UM, SKATE GRADE, UH, THE COMMUNITY WHO USES THE FACILITY.
UM, AND THEN HERE ARE SOME OF JUST SOME OF THE THINGS IN OUR TOOLKIT TO, THAT WE CAN USE FOR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
WE WOULD DEFINITELY ANTICIPATE LIKE SOME WALKING TOURS OF THE FACILITY, UM, PUBLIC MEETINGS OR MAYBE A PRESENTATION AT A TOWN BOARD MEETING.
UH, AND THEN ALSO USING SOCIAL MEDIA AND THE WEBSITE.
WE CAN DO A WEBSITE, BUT WE CAN ALSO PROVIDE CONTENT FOR THE WEBSITE.
I'VE WORKED WITH JENNY BEFORE TO GET STUFF OFF ON THE TOWN WEBSITE, AND OF COURSE WE WOULD BE CREATING AND MAINTAINING A DATABASE OF STAKEHOLDERS SO THAT WE COULD CONTINUE TO BUILD THAT AND CONTINUE COMMUNICATION WITH THE, WITH THE PUBLIC.
SO YEAH, SO ALONG WITH THE PUBLIC, THE COMMUNICATION PORTION IS ONE OF OUR BIGGEST THINGS.
AND IN CONJUNCTION WE'LL FOCUS MORE ON THE TECHNICAL SIDE OF THINGS.
WE'LL INCORPORATE THINGS THAT NANCY FINDS OUT THROUGHOUT THE TOWN.
WE'LL BRING THAT TO MEETINGS, WORKSHOPS, AND THINGS OF THOSE NATURE THROUGH THOSE DIFFERENT PHASES OF OUR PROJECT, THROUGH OUR 30%, THROUGH OUR, OUR 60 AND 90% PORTIONS OF THE PROJECT.
AND IN EACH MEETING WE DO, WE DO DO A SET OF, SAY, DESIGN MEETING MINUTES WHERE WE RECORD WHAT HAPPENS SO THAT IT, IT, IT SETS US UP FOR OUR TASKS FOR OUR NEXT MEETING.
IT ALSO GIVES US KIND OF A RECORD OF WHAT WE WERE, WHAT WE WERE THINKING, WHERE THINGS CAME FROM.
SO COMMUNICATION ENDS UP BEING ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS ON ONE OF THESE KINDS OF PROJECTS.
AND THIS SIMPLY IS JUST ANOTHER, UH, A SUMMARY OF THE DIFFERENT TASKS LARGELY BROKEN DOWN THROUGHOUT OUR, THROUGHOUT THE DESIGN PORTION OF THE JOB.
SO THIS IS OUR ORGANIZATION CHART, OUR ORGANIZATION CHART, UH, YOU'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM THAT'S GONNA BE WORKING ON THE PROJECT.
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FIRMS THAT WE DO HAVE LISTED.WE SEE ON A TROPHY POINT WHO DOES OUR ESTIMATES, UM, SJB SERVICES WITH SOME OF THE, UM, SOILS AND, AND, UH, GEOTECHNICAL SERVICES AND SURVEY WITH KEY OPS.
SO GETTING INTO RELATED PROJECTS, RELATED PROJECTS, WHICH THIS IS ALSO WHERE WE INCORPORATE AND WHERE I'M GONNA EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION END OF THINGS.
SO SOME OF OUR PROJECTS THAT RELATE TO THIS ONE ACTUALLY START OUT WITH HYDE PARK ICE COMPLEX UP IN NIAGARA FALLS.
THAT PROJECT WAS A FIVE MULTI-PHASE PROJECT.
WE WENT THROUGH SEVERAL ITERATIONS WITH THE TOWN.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING A NEW FACILITY OR RENOVATING EXISTING OR DOING THAT AT ONCE.
WE ENDED UP DOING THAT IN FIVE DIFFERENT PHASES OVER A COURSE OF ABOUT SIX YEARS.
SO WITH THAT, A LOT OF THE WORK WAS NEW LOBBY, BRAND NEW ENTRANCES.
UH, WE DID ICE UPGRADES, NEW LOCKER ROOMS. WE, WE RECONFIGURED FULL SPACE.
IT WAS IN A, IT WAS IN A, UH, PUBLIC PARK ALONG WITH AN EXISTING PARK STRUCTURE.
WE GET INTO PHASE THREE AND FOUR, WE GET TO LOCKER ROOMS. WE FLIP THEIR ONE ICE RINK OVER TO CREATE, UM, MORE OF A, YOU KNOW, UH, SEPARATION BETWEEN PUBLIC EMPLOYER, WHICH I SAW WAS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WAS IN YOUR LIST THAT WE WANNA MAKE PUBLIC SEEING ON ONE SIDE OF THE RINK PLAYERS AND TEAMS AND ANYBODY THAT USES THE ICE, THEY GET DIRECT ACCESS FROM THE LOCKER ROOMS. SO THAT WAS ONE OF OUR, OUR BIG, OUR BIG MOVES WAS TO ACTUALLY, UH, WE MOVED THEIR ICE RINK ABOUT 12 FEET TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
THEY HAD A SEATING ON BOTH SIDES.
UM, WE GOT INTO ONLY IN ICE RINK.
WE LIKE THE ONLY ONE, ONLY IN ONE FOR THIS.
IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THE RINK THAT YOU HAVE HERE.
ONE OF THE, UH, BIG COMPONENTS KIND OF THAT'S SIMILAR TO YOURS WAS THE ADDITION IN, IN THE BACK HERE OF CONFERENCE ROOMS, ICE SKATING, UM, SKATE RENTAL OFFICES ALONG WITH THEIR DEHUMIDIFICATION UNITS, WHICH ARE OFF THE ONE SIDE, VERY SIMILAR TO THE ROOM THAT YOU HAVE HERE, THE LAYOUT THAT YOU HAVE AND THE STYLE OF WORK THAT YOU HAVE HERE.
CHIEF DAGA, CHIEF DEGA WAS A, WE REPLACED, UH, THEIR ICE ICE EQUIPMENT ROOM ALONG WITH THEIR, THEIR ICE OR THE, THE RINK FLOOR AND THEIR DASHER BOARDS.
THE DASHBOARDS WERE A LATE EDITION AT FIRST.
UH, BUT THEN THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY REALIZED THAT THEIR BOARDS HAD KIND OF REACHED THE END OF THEIR LIFECYCLE.
AND IN ABOUT MID CONSTRUCTION WE KINDA, WE PULLED A FAST ONE AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET THEM NEW BOARDS ALONG WITH THE NEW BLEACHERS.
THEIR BLEACHERS WERE, UH, NOT 80 DA COMPLIANCE.
WE DID PUT IN A SET OF NEW BLEACHERS FOR THEM, INCORPORATED STORAGE BELOW THEY DID, THEY HAD STORAGE NEEDS.
VERY SIMILAR TO HERE, A COUPLE EXTRA PROJECTS.
NORTH TOWN CENTER OR WHICH PEPSI CENTER.
WE DID A FIFTH AND SIXTH PL SIX PAD STUDY WITH LOCKER ROOMS IN A BRAND NEW ENTRANCE OFF THE BACKSIDE OF WHERE THE PARKING IS, WHERE THEIR SECONDARY PARKING LOT IS.
UM, THAT ONE IS STILL KIND OF WAITING IN THE WINGS.
AND THEN NIRE UNIVERSITY DWYER WAS ONE OF OUR FIRST RANKS THAT WE DID WHERE WE DID ADDITIONAL SEATING, PRESIDENTIAL SUITES, PARTY SUITES, THE CONCESSION STANDS AND STORAGE FACILITIES.
SO OUR REASON FOR HIGHLIGHTING ALL THESE PROJECTS WAS THE, THEY CONTAINED A LOT OF THE COMPONENTS THAT, THAT YOU SEEM TO NEED HERE FOR YOURS.
AND AT THIS POINT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO SCOTT FOR YOUR EXPERIENCE.
YEAH, I'M JUST GONNA BRIEFLY, UH, OUTLINE A COUPLE PROJECTS, RENOVATION PROJECTS THAT ARE, WOULD BE SIMILAR, IS SIMILAR TO THIS PROJECT.
AND NORTH BUFFALO ICE RINK, UM, WAS A RENOVATION OF THE ICE SYSTEM, UH, NEW ICE RINK FLOOR, NEW DASHER BOARDS, NEW REFRIGERATION SYSTEM.
UH, THEY WENT WITH AN AMMONIA REFRIGERATION SYSTEM WE NEEDED TO INCORPORATE OR MAKE SURE IT FITS IN THE EXISTING REFRIGERATION ROOM.
UPGRADED, UH, THAT REFRIGERATION ROOM TO MEET ALL THE CODE REQUIREMENTS AND SO FORTH NEEDED FOR THE REFRIGERATION SYSTEM.
UM, THAT PROJECT WENT, UH, VERY SMOOTHLY.
UM, CENTENNIAL SPORTS ARENA, THIS IS A PROJECT IN, UH, TWIN CITIES IN MINNESOTA.
UM, THIS WAS A RENOVATION PROJECT OF AN EXISTING FACILITY.
THEY HAD AN OLYMPIC SIZE ICE SHEET, WHICH WAS A HUNDRED FOOT WIDE ICE RINK FLOOR.
THEY WANTED TO BRING IT DOWN TO NHL SIZE OR STANDARD SIZE, WHICH IS 85 FEET.
SO THE ICE RINK FLOOR WAS REPLACED.
NEW DASHBOARD SYSTEM AND THEN A NEW REFRIGERATION SYSTEM.
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AND WE CREATED A NEW MECHANICAL ROOM INSIDE THEIR EXISTING BUILDING, UM, BECAUSE THE EXISTING ROOM WASN'T LARGE ENOUGH.SO WE FOUND SPACE THAT WE COULD CARVE OUT, WHICH IS PRETTY COMMON.
IF, IF THE ROOM ISN'T LARGE ENOUGH, USUALLY WE CAN FIND SOME SPACE TO MAKE IT LARGE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE, UM, THE NEW REFRIGERATION SYSTEM.
AND THEN JUST A, A NEW PROJECT THAT WE DID A FEW YEARS AGO IS KOHE UNIVERSITY.
UM, THIS WAS A HEAT PUMP TYPE SYSTEM, UM, WHERE IT USED A SYNTHETIC TYPE REFRIGERATION SYSTEM.
ALL OF THESE PROJECTS THAT USE WASTE HEAT RECOVERY, MAXIMIZE WASTE, HEAT RECOVERY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO MINIMIZE, UM, ENERGY USE.
AND UH, THIS ONE ALSO HAD OBVIOUSLY A NEW ICE FLOOR AND A NEW DASHBOARD SYSTEM AS WELL.
I'LL JUST TOUCH REAL QUICK, I KNOW WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THE PROJECT AT THE TOP.
WE'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH
THEY WERE REALLY SUCCESSFUL FOR US.
WE ALSO WORKED WITH D 32 ON THE NORTH BUFFALO.
UH, WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT CORNERSTONE.
UM, THAT'S ONE WHERE AGAIN, WE DID A LOT OF ENERGY RECOVERY, UH, TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY IN
SO AS ERIC SAID, I MEAN WE'VE BEEN DOING WORK WITH ME ON THESE S IN THE PAST 12, ALMOST 13 YEARS NOW.
UM, AND, AND NOW WITH SCOTT WITH HIS EXPERTISE.
UM, GETTING INTO REAL QUICK WITH THE QA, THE QC, GETTING INTO CONSTRUCTION, WE HAVE OUR OWN TEAM OF CONSTRUCTION OBSERVATION, UH, FOLKS THAT WE USE ON ALL OF OUR PROJECTS.
THEY ARE OUR EYES AND OUR EARS OUT ON THE PROJECT.
SO THEY WOULD BE OUT ON THE PROJECT FULL TIME.
NOT ONLY THEY OUR EYES AND EARS, BUT THEY'RE ALSO YOUR EYES AND EARS.
THEY'RE THERE TO HELP OPEN THE FACILITY, COORDINATE DIFFERENT EVENTS THAT ARE, THAT ARE AROUND AND WORK WITH US ON A DAILY BASIS.
I USUALLY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON ON THE SITE BY NINE IN THE MORNING AND I KNOW WHAT KIND OF DAY IT'S GONNA BE.
THAT ALONG WITH OUR USE OF SPECIAL INSPECTIONS, WE DO, UH, WHAT'S WHAT'S CALLED SPECIAL INSPECTIONS.
AND THAT REALLY REGULATES OUR MATERIALS AND THE PROCESS IN WHICH THEY'RE, THEY'RE INSTALLED.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S A SET OF CHECKS AND BALANCES, UH, REGULATED BY CODES, REGULATED BY ORGANIZATIONS NATIONWIDE THAT THEY, THEY REALLY, UM, THE WORD THEY
SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND OPEN UP THE FLOOR TO ANY QUESTIONS.
WHAT DOES HYLAND PLANNING DO? THAT'S US WE'RE THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
AND IN ALL THESE PROJECTS YOU MENTIONED, YOU, YOU'VE GOT THIS WHOLE TEAM HERE.
WAS THIS WHOLE TEAM INVOLVED IN ALL OF THOSE, UH, PROJECTS OR HOW MANY? THE ONLY PERSON THAT WASN'T INVOLVED WITH ALL OF THESE PROJECTS WOULD BE, SCOTT WOULD BE 32.
UH, YES, WE, WE HAD A, A DIFFERENT, UH, ICE EXPERT WHO'S BEEN RETIRED.
SO, SO THE 12 TO 13 YEARS IS ALL THIS WHOLE, WHOLE TEAM OR IS SOMEBODY AN ADMIN RECENTLY OR THE ONLY RECENT ADDITIONS OF BB 32 AND HIGHLAND HIGHLAND SPECIFIC FOR THIS ONE.
SO, AND HOW MANY PROJECTS DOES HIGHWOOD WORK WITH YOU GUYS ON? WELL, UH, I JUST KNOW, RIGHT? IT IS A LOT.
BUT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE MAIN, MIDDLE, MAIN SLOW STREETS IN BUFFALO, ELMWOOD AVENUE AND, UH, TOWANDA.
SO, YEAH, THERE'S SO FOUR RIGHT IN THE ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
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READY? GOOD.ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA KEEP YOU GUYS ON TRACK ON TIME HERE.
UH, PRESENTING TODAY, UH, FOR THE SECOND TIME FROM, UH, ER, WE'RE A LABEL COMPANY AND THEN LABEL OUR FIRM'S, UH, RECENTLY MERGED, UH, DURING, UH, THE LENGTH OF THE RFP HERE.
I DIRECT OUR ARCHITECTURE DEPARTMENT AT LAB.
UM, THEN WITH LABEL BELLA, I WAS STILL THE CENTER OF LABEL BELLA, 22 YEARS.
UM, BEEN AROUND RINKS MY WHOLE LIFE.
I GREW UP A COUPLE BLOCKS FROM RIVERSIDE RINK.
I HAVE THREE KIDS WHO PLAY HOCKEY.
I DO ALL THE ICE SCHEDULING FOR THE BUFFALO SHAMROCKS.
I'VE BEEN ON THEIR BOARD FOR 10 YEARS.
UM, I'VE PROBABLY BEEN AT EVERY RINK WITHIN SIX HOURS OF BUFFALO.
UM, SO I DEFINITELY KNOW RINKS.
UM, PAT MONTE IS PROJECT MANAGER WITH ME.
UM, HE HAS A COUPLE KIDS WHO PLAYED HOCKEY.
AND THEN MIKE IS, UH, GONNA BE THE MEP AND ALL THE MECHANICAL ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING.
AND HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS SEE SCOTT UP HERE.
SCOTT, HOW YOU DOING? UH, SCOTT WARD IS WITH B 32.
UH, LEMME GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND I'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE CONNECTIONS.
UM, I'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF OUR CONNECTIONS WITH SCOTT IN A COUPLE MINUTES.
UM, LABEL, WE HAVE 75 PEOPLE IN BUFFALO, UH, 20 ARCHITECTS.
UH, SO EVERYTHING FOR YOUR PROJECT, FOR THE MOST PART WILL BE HANDLED RIGHT OUT OF BUFFALO.
UM, WE A WE ACTUALLY HAVE ALL SERVICES, UM, OUT OF OUR OFFICE EXCEPT FOR SPECIALTY THINGS LIKE SCOTT WITH B 32 AND THE ICE SYSTEM.
UM, AND TROPHY POINT FOR ESTIMATING WHO WE USE ALL PRETTY MUCH FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS ALL THE TIME.
UM, WE HAVE A BUNCH OF OTHER THINGS LIKE INTERIOR DESIGN, WHICH WE'LL PROBABLY TAP FOR STUFF WITH THE LOBBY AND LOCKER ROOMS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
PROJECT TEAM, UH, I WOULD RUN THE PROJECT, UH, PAT WOULD BE THE PROJECT MANAGER.
WE DID ALL THE ICE REPLACEMENT AT NORTH VILLE A FEW YEARS BACK.
UH, STARTED THE DAY AFTER TRYOUTS, UM, OPENED FOR THE START OF THE NEW SEASON ONE CHANGE ORDER.
UM, WE'RE ON RIVERSIDE NOW TOGETHER THAT ONE HAD SOME PROBLEMS THROUGH COVID WITH MATERIALS, EQUIPMENT, UM, WHICH WE KNOW A LOT ABOUT NOW, MORE THAN YOU CAN IMAGINE, UM, IN TERMS OF LEAD TIMES.
AND THEN THEY HAD A MAJOR NATIONAL GRID ISSUE THAT YOU'RE SORTING OUT WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY OF BUFFALO.
UM, BUT THAT PROJECT IS COMPLETELY DONE INSIDE THE BUILDING AND THAT RAKE SHOULD BE OPEN IN
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SEPTEMBER.A LITTLE DELAY ON THE POWER, UH, ISSUE.
UH, THAT PROJECT WENT SO WELL.
THEY HIRED, HIRED US DIRECTLY TO DO CS, SO WE'RE IN DESIGN FOR CS RIGHT NOW AND THAT INCLUDES MOVING THEIR EQUIPMENT ROOM.
UM, SO THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING TOGETHER ACTUALLY WITH SCOTT AS WELL.
SCOTT FROM B 32, UM, IS ON ALL THOSE PROJECTS WITH US, WITH US, UM, POINT OUT AS WELL.
TROPHY POINT, UM, THEY'RE RIGHT NEAR HERE.
UH, THEY DO COST ESTIMATING AND THEY'LL BE ON OUR TEAM.
UM, AND THEN THE REST OF THE TEAM, EVERYBODY IN ENGINEERING IS LED BY MIKE.
WE'RE ALL IN THE BUFFALO OFFICE, SO WE'RE ALL IN ONE OFFICE.
UH, AND THE LAST ONE IS MIKE LIN.
UM, OUR, WE DO HAVE 1400 STAFF WORLDWIDE.
AND MIKE LIN SPECIAL SPECIALIZES IN RINKS.
UM, SO I HAVE HIM AVAILABLE IF WE NEED 'EM.
I DON'T THINK WE WILL, BUT IF WE NEED 'EM, WE HAVE 'EM.
AND HE HAS A REALLY NICE PORTFOLIO OF RINK PROJECTS IF SOMETHING CAME UP.
AGENDA, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT OUR EXPERIENCE, THE PROCESS.
UM, PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AND CONSTRUCTION OVERSIGHT IS KIND OF THE KEYS WE WANNA HIT.
UH, JUST REALLY QUICKLY, UM, ON THE BUFFALO OFFICE, IN ROCHESTER OFFICE, WE DID THE NEW, NEW FACILITY AT CLARKSON.
I WAS NOT ON THAT PROJECT, BUT PEOPLE ON THE TEAM IN BUFFALO AND ROCHESTER WERE, UM, THIS IS CAS WHERE WE'RE WORKING ON THE NEW ADDITION, UH, NORTH BUFFALO, AGAIN, NEW ICE SURFACE, NEW ROOF, UH, ALL NEW EQUIPMENT.
UM, AND WE HANDLED ALL THE CONSTRUCTION, UM, SERVICES FOR THAT TOO.
THERE WAS NO CONSTRUCTION MANAGER.
I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, I WAS ON THAT PROJECT.
IT'S ACTUALLY,
UH, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE.
UM, MIKE WALLEN, UH, LIKE I SAID, EXPERT IN RINKS.
UH, HE DID THE PNC RENOVATIONS IN CHARLOTTE AND, UH, THE CHECKERS, UH, ARENA IN CHARLOTTE.
HE DOES SMALL RINKS TOO, BUT I FIGURED IT'D BE FUN TO SHOW SOME BIG ONES.
UM, AND THEN, UH, BEFORE I GET INTO THE PROCESS, I DIDN'T SHOW SCOTT'S PROJECTS.
I KNOW SCOTT'S ON EVERY TEAM, SO YOU'RE GETTING 'EM NO MATTER WHAT.
PROBABLY, UH, BUT 250 RINKS, UM, AND REALLY SUCCESSFUL PROJECTS WITH US AT, AT NORTH BUFFALO, CS, AND RIVERSIDE.
AND WE'RE REALLY, UM, WORK REALLY WELL WITH SCOTT AND HIS TEAM.
UH, PROCESS, UH, BEFORE WE START PROCESS, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE GONNA PRESENT TODAY IS ALL PRELIMINARY.
AND THAT NO MATTER WHAT, IF YOU HIRE US, WE KIND OF ENVISION THIS BEING, YOU KNOW, SETTING THE TONE FOR OUR MASTER PLAN.
THERE MIGHT BE STUFF YOU CAN'T AFFORD, UM, IN THIS FIRST PROJECT, BUT WE THINK WE SHOULD BE SETTING THE TONE FOR YEARS TO COME.
SO YOU HAVE A FACILITY THAT YOUR COMMUNITY'S PROUD OF AND IT'S ONE OF THE BETTER, IF NOT BEST SINGLE PACK FACILITIES IN THE AREA.
AND SOME OF WHAT WE PRESENT MIGHT BE MORE THAN YOU CAN DO IN THE FIRST PROJECT, BUT I THINK IT'S WORTH IT TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY.
AND THINK ABOUT A MASTER PLAN, EVEN IF YOU CAN'T DO IT ALL UPFRONT.
I THINK EVERYONE KNOWS THE PROGRAM ARENA RENOVATIONS, LOOKING AT ADDITION, UM, CAPTURING ALL THE UNDERUTILIZED SPACE, UM, MECHANICAL SYSTEMS, WHICH, UH, MIKE AND HIS TEAM WOULD BE LEADING, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, UM, ESPECIALLY TRYING TO GET THE ICE R TO BE USED YEAR ROUND IS A BIG, UH, UH, CONCERN.
SO THAT'S ONE LOOKING AT, WELL, IN SUMMER YOU GUYS WANNA USE FOR SOCCER AND STUFF, AND YOU HAVE AN AIR CONDITION DURING THE SUMMER AS WELL, SO THERE'S D DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT.
UM, AND LASTLY, UH, THE ICE MECHANICAL SYSTEMS WOULD BE ALL, UH, SCOTT WARD SCOPE AS LINED ON RFP.
WHEN YOU SEE OUR COUPLE NEXT SLIDES, WE, WE KIND OF BROKE IT ALL OUT BY TASK.
UH, SO THE INTERIOR OF THE BUILDING, THE MECHANICAL DEVICE SYSTEMS, AND THEN THE DETAILED DESIGN.
WANTED TO TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT SCHEDULE.
SO THE WAY WE SEE THE SCHEDULE WOULD BE THAT IT WOULD TAKE US ABOUT A WEEK ONCE WE WE'RE AWARDED THE PROJECT.
IT TAKES US ABOUT A WEEK TO GET SET UP.
WE WOULD DO OVER A SERIES IN PARALLEL OF EIGHT WEEKS.
SO THE PLAN WOULD BE, LOOK AT ALL THOSE THINGS 'CAUSE IT'S ALL DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
MIKE'S THE MECHANICAL PAT AND I WILL BE LOOKING AT THE RENOVATIONS IN ADDITIONS.
SCOTT WOULD BE LOOKING AT THE ICE SYSTEM.
SO WE COULD KIND OF DO THAT ALL IN PARALLEL TOGETHER.
UM, THEN WE THOUGHT, ONCE WE HAVE SKETCHES AND THINGS TO LOOK AT, UM, WE WOULD SET ASIDE TWO WEEKS FOR JUST PUBLIC INFORMATION SESSIONS.
MEANING LITERALLY SITTING WITH THE PUBLIC, UM, SHOWING THEM THE IDEAS, GIVE 'EM A CHANCE FOR FEEDBACK, WHETHER IT BE IN PERSON OR THROUGH WEBSITES.
BUT THAT WOULD BE A NICE WAY TO CAPTURE THE COMMUNITIES, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THEIR OPINIONS ARE ON THE PROJECT.
UM, SO THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD KIND OF START TO FIT THAT IN.
IT IS THE MOST APPROPRIATE TIME 'CAUSE WE WOULD'VE COLLECTED THE DESIGNS AT THAT POINT.
UM, THEN AFTER THAT WE WOULD WANNA FINALIZE THE SCOPE OF WORK, AND THAT COULD BE IMMEDIATE.
IF THE PUBLIC LOVES THE PROJECT, IT COULD BE IMMEDIATE.
IF IT'S NOT, THEN IT MIGHT TAKE JUST A LITTLE BIT LONGER TO KIND OF, UM, REFINE THINGS TO GET IT WHERE EVERYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT.
INCLUDING OBVIOUSLY ALL THE SHAREHOLDERS, STAKEHOLDERS.
UM, DETAILED DESIGN, WE PUT 24 WEEKS HERE.
IF THERE WERE FAST TRACK ITEMS, LIKE THINGS THAT WANTED TO BE DONE QUICKER, WE COULD TRY TO DO THEM QUICKER.
UM, IT'S ALWAYS A POSSIBILITY, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO BE VERY REALISTIC ABOUT A DESIGN
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SCHEDULE.THIS IS ALREADY KIND OF AGGRESSIVE.
UM, AND THEN CONSTRUCTION AS MANY AS 52 WEEKS, UM, IS WHAT WE'RE SEEING BASED FOR AN ADDITION.
UH, OTHER THINGS WOULD BE MUCH FASTER, LIKE THE RINK SYSTEM.
AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.
THIS IS THE SAME SCHEDULE THAT WE'VE USED FOR ALL OTHER RINKS.
SO WHAT WE DO IS WE GOT THE INTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS, NEW ENTRANCE, LOCKER ROOMS, ADDITIONS, AND THEN EQUIPMENT.
JUST A COUPLE KEY DATES HERE IS IF, IF WE DID THAT DESIGN SCHEDULE, WE COULD BE OUT TO BID, UM, IN, AROUND, UM, MARCH.
AND THEN WE COULD BE AWARDING CONTRACTS IN APRIL.
UM, AS FAR AS THE, THE INTERIOR STUFF, ADDITIONS, LOCKER ROOMS, ADDITION, ALL THAT STUFF, ABOUT 52 WEEKS.
SO WE COULD START THAT AS SOON AS MAY, MAYBE APRIL, AND THAT WOULD RUN ABOUT 52 WEEKS TO GET ALL THAT DONE.
ALL THOSE THINGS CAN BE DONE WHILE THEY'RE ACTIVE.
THERE'S NO IMPROVEMENTS IN TERMS OF THE LOBBY LOCKER ROOMS. ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO DO, WE CAN KEEP THE BRI ACTIVE IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
UM, IT'S, IT'S COMMON TO, TO FIND A WAY TO DO IT.
THE RINK HAS TO BE SHUT DOWN, OBVIOUSLY.
UM, RIGHT NOW, UM, SCOTT CAN JUMP ON IF HE WANTS, BUT WE'RE SEEING 52 WEEKS ON DELIVERY TIMES ON SOME THINGS LIKE MOTOR CONTROLLERS, UM, DIFFERENT PARTS, UM, VALVES, UM, PUMPS, UM, MIKE ON, UH, REFRIGERATION, MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT.
YEAH, WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, FOR A UNIT, UH, FOR THE ICE RINK ITSELF, IT, UH, THE AIR CONDITIONING UNIT, THE VENTILATION UNIT IS ABOUT 40 TO 50 WEEKS.
STANDARD MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT IS ABOUT, UH, 12 TO, UH, 20 WEEKS.
UH, ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT'S ABOUT 24 TO 36 WEEKS.
SO IT'S, IT'S JUST THE WORLD WE LIVE IN TODAY.
WE, WE'VE JUST BID PROJECTS FOR MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT FOR NEXT SUMMER AS THAT, THAT'S KIND OF THE CONDITION WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW.
UM, WE CAN ALWAYS DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY AND GET LIKE TEMPORARY CHILLERS OR DO THINGS TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN QUICKER, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO PRESENT SOMETHING THAT'S VERY REALISTIC.
IF, IF YOU WANT TO REACH OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND PLAN A PROJECT OUT CORRECTLY AND GO THROUGH ALL THE STEPS, UM, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO DO SOMETHING NEXT SUMMER UNLESS IT WAS JUST A TEMPORARY FIX.
SCOTT, YOU GOT ANYTHING ON THAT? NO, I MEAN, NO, YOU NEED IT ALL.
I MEAN, TEMPORARY KILLERS ARE HARD TO COME BY TOO THESE DAYS.
SO IF IT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, YOU WANNA CONSIDER IT FOR THE 2324 SEASON, UM, YOU NEED TO TRY TO SECURE THAT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
JUST SHOWING YOU HOW, HOW WE'RE JUST GONNA SHOW YOU HOW WE WORK.
KIND OF DIAGRAMS YOU EXPECT FROM US.
THESE ARE NOT FINAL SOLUTIONS.
JUST GONNA SHOW YOU SOME IDEAS BASED ON BEING IN THAT BUILDING SINCE I WAS A KID.
UM, I HAD A LOT OF IDEAS AS SOON AS THIS CAME ABOUT, OF COURSE.
UM, SO THIS IS EXISTING, UH, 3D SO WE JUST THROW THIS IN THE COMPUTER, EVERYTHING'S IN 3D.
UM, GREAT THING HERE IS THAT ONCE IT'S IN ANY VANTAGE POINT, UM, THERE WAS ONE THOUGHT TO MAYBE MOVE THE PLAYER BENCHES.
IF YOU MOVE 'EM, WE CAN ACTUALLY SIT IN THE LOBBY AND SEE WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE FOR PLAYERS.
YOU KNOW, 3D MODEL ALLOWS US TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING INSIDE THE BUILDING TO MAKE SURE IT'S WHAT YOU EVERYBODY EXPECTS IN THIS ROOM.
UM, SO THAT'S THE EXISTING BUILDING.
UM, JUST A COUPLE IDEAS WE'VE EXPLORED.
AND THESE WERE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID.
WE JUST CHANGED THE, THE DIAGRAM FROM THE FIRST INTERVIEW.
UM, TO THIS SIDE, WE'RE SHOWING A POSSIBLE LOCKER ROOM ADDITION, TWO LOCKER ROOMS, TWO LOCKER ROOMS WITH SEPARATE ENTRANCES OUT TO THE RINK.
UH, SEPARATE TEAMS, UM, SEPARATE.
YOU CAN SEPARATE BOYS AND GIRLS.
AND THEN A LA UH, REFEREE ROOM IN THE MIDDLE.
THESE ARE VERY APPROPRIATELY SIZED, UH, FOR THE HOCKEY PEOPLE IN THE ROOM.
SOMETHING LIKE THE SIZE OF NORTH BUFFALO'S, NEW ROOMS. UM, TRYING TO LEAVE THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING OPEN IN CASE YOU EVER GET REALLY AGGRESSIVE.
WANNA PUT ANOTHER RINK ON OR DO SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE.
DON'T WANNA PUT IT ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
NO PLAYERS SHOULD BE GOING THROUGH THE LOBBY.
PE UH, FANS, UH, TONAWANDA HAS THAT AT TWO OF THEIR RINKS.
UM, YOU DON'T WANT THAT SITUATION, ESPECIALLY WITH HIGH SCHOOL HOCKEY.
UH, NEW VESTIBULE, H-V-A-C-H-V-A-C UNIT OFF THE BACK.
AND THEN, UM, HAVE AN IDEA TO KIND OF RENOVATE THOUGH THE EXISTING LOCKER ROOMS MAYBE JUST INTO A COUPLE.
SO THAT'S A BLOW UP OF THE ADDITIONAL LOCKER ROOMS. KIND OF JUST, AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST IDEAS.
UM, AND ON THIS SIDE WE SHOWED WHAT WE CALL KIND OF TWO FEATURE LOCKER ROOMS. GREAT FOR HIGH SCHOOL, MAYBE YOUR TRAVEL TEAMS MAYBE REWARD A TEAM, UH, TO BE IN THAT SPECIAL ROOM.
UM, KIND OF WORKS A LITTLE THAT WAY AND SUB CERTAIN RANKS YOU GET A BETTER R ROOM THAN OTHERS.
AND THEN ALONG THIS SIDE, UH, WE'RE JUST SHOWING A TEAM MEETING AND VIDEO ROOM, UH, MULTIPLE PLACES HAVE THAT NOW.
YOU KNOW, DOUBLE PAD PLACES OR SINGLE PAD RINKS.
HAVE PLACES WHERE YOU CAN TAKE THE TEAM AND LOOK AT VIDEO.
UH, DO THOSE KIND OF THINGS, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT HIGH SCHOOL TEAMS THAT ARE HERE OR YOUR MAYBE YOUR OLDER TEAMS, PEEWEE BANDS OR MIDGETS.
JUST SHOW ON THE MEZZANINE LEVEL.
THERE'S SOME THOUGHT TO MAYBE DO A MEZZANINE.
WE KINDA LIKE IT 'CAUSE IT FITS.
IT ALSO SEPARATES THE ENTRANCES TO THE LA TWO LOCKER ROOMS. AND LASTLY, UNDERNEATH COULD BE REALLY VALUABLE FOR EITHER OFFICES STORAGE AND WE COULD PUT ANOTHER LOCKER ROOM IF WE REALLY
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NEEDED IT.YOU KNOW, SIX LOCKER ROOMS IS USUALLY TYPICALLY GOOD FOR A, A SINGLE PAD, BUT WE WOULD HAVE ROOM TO DO SOMETHING IF WE WANT.
UM, SO A LOT OF POSSIBILITIES FOR US IN TERMS OF THE MEZZANINE.
LASTLY, UM, WE JUST KIND OF MESSED AROUND THIS, SO IT'S EXISTING IMAGE.
EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS IN THE ROOM.
I EXPECT, UM, THE WAY WE WOULD WORK WHEN IT COMES TIME TO LOOK AT THE NEW ENTRANCE, UM, WE TYPICALLY JUST TAKE A PICTURE LIKE THIS AND WE THREE, 3D MODEL ON TOP OF IT TO DO SKETCHES.
AND THEY'RE GREAT FOR PUBLIC OUTREACH FOR THAT.
SO WE COULD DO STUFF LIKE THIS WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE LITERALLY PUT IT ON TOP OF THE ORIGINAL IMAGE, HAVE THE ORIGINAL IMAGE WITH IT SO PEOPLE SAW IT.
IT COULD REALLY FEEL EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.
WE DID THIS WITH NO INPUT, SO AGAIN, WE WOULD ACTUALLY WORK WITH YOU GUYS TO COME UP WITH IDEAS.
BUT JUST AS AN IDEA, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DO A, A TALLER ENTRANCE WITH A SIGN AND THE, UH, WALK ALONG THE FRONT, BUT THIS IS THE WAY TO ENGAGE THE PUBLIC SO THEY UNDERSTAND IT.
IF THEY SEE A PICTURE OF WHAT IT IS AND THEY SEE A NEW PICTURE OF WHAT IT'S GONNA BE, IT WILL COME ACROSS TO THEM APPROPRIATELY AND THEY'LL UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROJECT COULD BE.
UM, I'M NOT GONNA SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THIS, BUT, UM, JUST OUR EXAMPLE BUDGET FORMAT, UNLESS PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS AT THE END, UH, TYPICALLY ALL THE ELEMENTS OF THE PROJECT WE'RE DOING ON A SEPARATE LINE, AND THEN WE'RE DOING ALL THE MARKUPS THAT YOU CAN EXPECT, LIKE ESCALATION AND DESIGN CONTINGENCIES ON TOP OF THOSE.
THESE ARE JUST HOLD NUMBERS, OF COURSE.
THESE AREN'T, WE DON'T, HAVEN'T DESIGNED ANYTHING.
AND THEN YOU'RE SEEING A, A REAL CONSTRUCTION COST.
THIS IS GREAT FOR THE COMMITTEE OR THE BOARD WHEN THEY'RE MAKING DECISIONS.
THEY CAN SAY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T REALLY AFFORD THE MEZZANINE, BUT WE KNOW IT'S $700,000.
IF THAT'S WHAT IT WAS, LET'S PUT THAT ASIDE AND WE KNOW WHAT IT COULD BE IN THE FUTURE.
AND THAT HELPS YOU TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE.
AND THEN IT COMES RIGHT OFF AND CAN GO UNDERNEATH THIS AT THE BOTTOM.
AND THEN YOU'RE WORKING TO A REAL PROJECT BUDGET.
THE ESTIMATE THAT YOU'RE GONNA GET FROM TROPHY POINTS IS GONNA BE LIKE 50 PAGES.
OKAY? WE'RE GONNA SIMPLIFY IT DOWN TO ONE PAGE FOR THE PUBLIC AND FOR EVERYBODY WHO'S INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT.
AND YOU CAN DECIDE WHAT YOU WANT FOR YOUR PROJECT.
AM I GOOD ON TIME? SOMEONE TIMING? NO, YOU'RE DOING OKAY.
HOPE I'M NOT TALKING TOO FAST.
NO ONE'S GONNA
UM, JUST GONNA, I KNOW THAT WAS IN THE QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, SENT TO US FOR THE PRESENTATION, SO WE'LL JUST COUPLE QUICK THINGS.
UM, I'M ROUTINELY THE THING I PRESENT MOST REALLY TO SCHOOL BOARDS PROBABLY, UH, BUT MOST OFTEN, UM, BUT TYPICALLY ANY PRESENTATION TO THE PUBLIC, I'M GONNA DO THAT.
ANY TOWN PRESENTATION, ANY, ANY PRESENTATION TO ALL ANY OF OUR CLIENTS.
I'M TYPICALLY THE ONE DOING THAT WITH PAT'S ASSISTANCE.
PAT WOULD BE TALKING MORE TODAY IF WE HAD A LITTLE MORE TIME THOUGH.
UM, I THINK, UM, COMMUNITY INTERACTION, WE CAN DO THINGS AS FAR AS THE BOARD WANTS US TO DO OR AS FAR AS THE COMMUNITY WANTS US TO DO.
ONCE WE GET THOSE INITIAL THINGS DOWN, WE CAN LITERALLY PUT THINGS ON THE WALL AND GET PEOPLE'S IDEAS AND WRITE 'EM IN.
WE CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT, UM, THAT IS DONE ON PUBLIC PROJECTS AND WE ARE TOTALLY COMFORTABLE DOING IT.
WE'RE THE ONES DESIGNING IT, WE'RE THE ONES DRAWING IT, SO WE'D BE IN THE ROOM DOING IT WITH THE COMMUNITY SO THEY UNDERSTOOD THE PROJECT.
UM, THE GRAPHICS YOU SAW TONIGHT IS HOW WE PRESENT.
SO WE WOULD PRESENT IN 3D, EVERYTHING WOULD BE IN 3D SO THAT NO ONE HAS TO KNOW HOW TO READ A PLAN.
UM, THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD SEE.
YOU WOULD SEE RENDERINGS, EXTERIOR, YOU WOULD SEE RENDERINGS.
THAT'S THE WAY WE OPERATE ARE BEST TO PRESENT TO THE PUBLIC.
UM, I KIND OF GAVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF SCHEDULE AND BUDGET FORMATS THAT WE WOULD USE FOR PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS.
SO THOSE, WHAT YOU SAW FOR A BUDGET FORMAT, THAT SIMPLE ONE PAGER IS TYPICALLY WHAT WE'RE SHOWING THE PUBLIC.
AND THEN THEY COULD HAVE ALL THE BACKUP THAT THEY WANT DEPENDING ON HOW THE BOARD DIRECTED US.
UM, TYPICALLY WE HELP WITH BROCHURES, FLYERS, ANY OF THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
THOSE ARE MORE TYPICAL FOR REFERENDUMS, LIKE IF YOU'RE TRYING TO APPROVE A PROJECT.
BUT IF SOMETHING WAS NEEDED FOR THIS PROJECT, WE COULD DO IT.
UM, AND THEN LASTLY, WE HAVE, UH, IN BUFFALO, OUR OFFICE, WE HAVE DEDICATED MARKETING STAFF THAT COULD ASSIST WITH ANY WEBSITE BASED OUTREACH.
IF YOU WANTED TO DO A SURVEY LIKE, UH, YOU WANTED TO SAY LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT AMENITIES DO YOU WANT IN THE RINK? THOSE KIND OF THINGS, WE CAN HELP FACILITATE THAT THROUGH OUR IN-HOUSE MARKETING DEPARTMENT.
SO WE'LL JUST KIND OF TALK ABOUT OUR CONSTRUCTION, WHAT WE DO, UM, KIND OF EXPERIENCE WORKING ALL METHODS, EITHER CONSTRUCTION MANAGER, CLERK, CLIENT REP, REP REPRESENTATIVE, OR EXPANDED CA UM, EXPANDED CA IS KIND OF A NEWER THING WHERE THE ARCHITECT TAKES ON A LITTLE MORE ROLE.
MAYBE THEY'RE AT THE BUILDING A LITTLE MORE OFTEN, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE A BUILDING PERSON WHO'S REALLY ACTIVE, AN ENGINEER WHO'S ACTIVE, MAYBE THEY CAN TAKE ON SOME OF IT.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING AT WHAT WE DID AT NORTH BUFFALO RINK.
WE'RE DOING AT RIVERSIDE, WE'RE DOING AT CS.
ALL THOSE RINKS HAD STRONG PEOPLE KIND OF RUNNING THE RINK WHO WERE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, WATCH OVER THE PROJECT A LITTLE BIT AND THEN WE HELPED THEM.
NOT SAYING THAT THAT'S THE WAY TO GO HERE, BUT WE'RE AVAILABLE TO DO THAT.
WE'RE DOING THE SAME THING FOR NIAGARA, NIAGARA UNIVERSITY AND THE CITY OF BUFFALO SCHOOLS.
UM, AND YEP, THERE'S SOFTWARE THAT MONITORS ALL CONSTRUCTION.
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WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO IT IN SOFTWARE BASED PRO PROGRAM IF THAT'S WHAT THE, UH, TOWN WOULD WANT.UM, AND THEN LOTS OF EXPERIENCE MANAGING PROJECTS WITH AND WITHOUT A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER.
SO CITY OF BUFFALO, I THINK ANYTIME WE HAVE MAYBE 10 OR SO ACTIVE PROJECTS AT A TIME BETWEEN THE RINKS, THE COMMUNITY CENTERS, ALL THE BUILDINGS THERE, UM, AND THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT, THEY HAVE ARCHITECTS ON STAFF WHO HELP US A LITTLE BIT THROUGH IT, BUT TYPICALLY WE'RE MANAGING THOSE UP TO, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS $10 MILLION MAYBE SOMEWHERE.
AND WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR THE MOST PART IS HELPING THEM TO FACILITATE EVERYTHING THAT GOES.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S INVOLVED IN CONSTRUCTION FROM REVIEWING SUBMITTALS THAT CONTRACTORS ARE SENDING IN TO ANSWERING QUESTIONS, UM, FROM THE CONTRACTORS AND, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO, UM, WE'VE DONE THAT WITH, WITH ALL THE BUFFALO PROJECTS.
UM, LIKE JEFF SAID, UM, WITH NORTH BUFFALO RIVERSIDE, UH, CURRENTLY DOING THAT.
AND, UH, TYPICALLY I THINK OUR FIRM PRIDES OURSELF ON GETTING A PRETTY STRONG RELATIONSHIP WITH THE ONSITE STAFF.
I THINK IF YOU ASK, UH, NICK PRICE AT NORTH BUFFALO OR NICK FORWARDED TO OTHER RINKS, UM, WE, WE REALLY TRY TO LIKE CREATE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THOSE GUYS SO THAT WE'RE LISTENING TO WHAT THEY WANT IN THE RINK IN THEIR FACILITY AND PAT'S A BIG PART OF THAT ONE.
AND I THINK, UM, YEAH, JUST OUR TEAM.
I THINK, UH, EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH MUNICIPAL CLIENTS.
I PERSONALLY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH HAMBURG, I KNOW THAT, BUT I HAVE A TON OF EXPERIENCE WITH BUFFALO.
I DON'T NEED, YOU KNOW, 30 PLUS PROBABLY PROJECTS, UM, A LOT OF RECENT RINK EXPERIENCE FOR US.
UM, ME AND PAT, UM, TOGETHER AND MIKE'S TEAM ON THE ENGINEERING SIDE, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH US, UM, FULL HOUSE, UH, FULL IN SERVICE, UH, CONSULTANTS IN OUR FIRM, PLUS THE SPECIALTIES OF SCOTT AND TROPHY POINT.
UM, AND WE THINK WE HAVE THE RESOURCES TO MEET ANY SCHEDULE.
UM, I WASN'T GONNA COME UP HERE AND TELL YOU THAT YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, START SWAPPING OUT EQUIPMENT NEXT SUMMER.
UH, SO WE GAVE YOU A VERY REALISTIC SCHEDULE TONIGHT.
UM, AND THAT WAS OUR PLAN TO COME IN AND SHOW WHAT, WHAT WAS REALISTIC.
I KNOW WHAT IT WOULD MEAN IF THE PROJECT WENT WRONG AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU CAN'T GET ANY RINK FOR TWO MONTHS.
UM, UH, AND THAT'S WHY WE AT NORTH BUFFALO, WE, THE BISONS WERE ON TOP OF US EVERY SINGLE DAY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD IT PLANNED OUT PERFECTLY.
AND DEPENDING HOW PERFECTLY YOU GOTTA, YOU GOTTA TAKE YOUR TIME AND I THINK VERY UNLIKELY THAT YOU'RE GONNA GET MUCH DONE NEXT SUMMER.
IT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE WE GET SOMETHING STARTED, BUT IN TERMS OF R EQUIPMENT, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY IT'S PROBABLY NOT A GREAT CHANCE.
UM, AND I THINK THAT WHEN WE TALKED IT THROUGH WITH SCOTT AND, AND OUR SCHEDULE, WE DIDN'T WANNA PROPOSE THAT.
BUT I THINK THAT WE, IF WE HIT THE GROUND RUNNING, WE CAN BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION WITH A LOT OF FUN STUFF IN THAT SUMMER LOCKER ROOMS AND THINGS THAT PEOPLE WOULD GET REALLY EXCITED ABOUT.
NEW ENTRANTS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
HOPEFULLY I DIDN'T TALK TOO FAST.
I TRIED TO, THIS IS THE TIGHTEST INTERVIEW TIME WE EVER HAD 20 MINUTES
THAT'S WHY HE DID ALL THE TALKING.
I TOLD THESE GUYS IF I STARTED HANDING IT OFF, YOU TALK TOO MUCH.
WE'RE GONNA BE IN TROUBLE HERE.
UM, ANYWAYS, UH, THAT'S THE PRESENTATION.
ANY QUESTIONS? ONE QUESTION ON THE SLIDE THAT YOU SHOWED ON THE INTERIOR, IT SHOWED, UH, 52 WEEKS ON THE LEFT SIDE AND ON THE RIGHT SIDE IT SHOWED THE CONSTRUCTION PERIOD.
YEAH, FROM I BELIEVE, UH, APRIL TO AUGUST.
I COULD HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT SLIDE FOR FIVE MINUTES.
SO WHAT WE HAD HERE WAS IF THE NOTICE OR PROCEED WAS THE SAME DATE FOR BOTH SIDES, APRIL 10TH, WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE WERE ALLOWING ON INTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS, NEW ENTRANCE LOCKER ROOMS, ADDITIONS WAS 52 WEEKS.
NONE OF THAT STUFF WILL GO 52 WEEKS, BUT SAY THE ADDITION MIGHT GO 40, A LOCKER ROOM MIGHT BE 16 WEEKS, BUT WE FELT THAT THAT PERIOD WOULD ALLOW WHATEVER YOU HAD WITHIN YOUR BUDGET TO BE DONE WITHIN THE BUILDING, THE NEW ENTRANCE, THE LOBBY, THE LOCKER ROOM RENOVATIONS, ADDITION, ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN.
ALL THAT STUFF CAN HAPPEN WITHIN 52 WEEKS.
TOTALLY ON THE RIG SIDE, I'M THINKING DAY AFTER TRYOUTS WE WOULD BE READY LITERALLY TO CLOSE DOWN, TERRORIZE DOWN AND UM, THEN ALLOW ABOUT 16 WEEKS FROM THAT POINT TO UH, HAVING A, THAT R EQUIPMENT BACK UP AND ACTIVE.
SO I HAD AUGUST 12TH, YOU KNOW, AS A TARGET.
UM, NOW THESE AREN'T REALISTIC DATES FOR 16 WEEKS, YOU KNOW, MIGHT, MIGHT GET A COUPLE WEEKS IN, YOU KNOW, BUT NO MATTER WHAT, WE'D BE IN GOOD SHAPE FOR SEPTEMBER.
SO I'M JUST CURIOUS THAT 52 WEEKS IS A CONSECUTIVE 'CAUSE ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT THE ASSOCIATION HAS, YOU KNOW, PRESENTED IS HAVING CONSTRUCTION DONE WHILE THERE'S PARTICIPATION WHILE IT'S YEAH, IT'S GOING ON.
SO IS THAT GONNA BE CONSECUTIVE YOU, IS IT, IS IT FEASIBLE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT? YEAH.
WHILE THE SEASON'S STILL GOING? THAT PART? YEP.
SO, UH, I'LL JUST SAY ONE, ONE THING ABOUT PAT HERE AND YOU KNOW, PAT HAS A TON OF EXPERIENCE WITH PHASE PROJECTS WITHIN BUILDINGS, SHUTTING AREAS DOWN, YOU KNOW, BLOCKING THEM OFF.
I WOULD EXPECT THOUGH, FOR 52 WEEKS THERE WOULD BE AN IMPACT TO THE BUILDING TO BE REALISTIC.
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GONNA BE ALL OF 40 WEEKS, RIGHT? YEAH, BUT IT'S OFF THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING THAT REALLY SHOULDN'T AND IT SHOULDN'T AFFECT ANYBODY.IF WE BUILD A MEZZANINE, WE'RE GONNA DO THAT DURING THE SUMMER, THAT WON'T AFFECT ANYBODY.
UM, IF WE SAY WE'RE GONNA DO A LOCKER ROOM ADDITION AND WE'RE GONNA RENOVATE TO ALL LOCK OLD LOCKER ROOMS INTO SAY THOSE FEATURE ROOMS OR WHATEVER YOU GUYS LIKE, BUT WE WOULD BUILD THE LOCKER ROOMS AND THEN RENOVATE THE OTHER ONES AFTER IT.
SO WE'LL MAKE MOVES THE WHOLE TIME TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, BE THINKING IT THROUGH EVEN THE ENTRANCE.
UM, IN A WAY WE COULD BUILD THAT ENTRANCE.
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE IN THAT LOBBY RIGHT NOW, YOU GOT THAT LONG SPACE AND THEN REALLY YOU KIND OF GO BACK INTO THAT OPEN AREA TO THE ENTRANCE.
THERE'S MORE THAN ENOUGH ROOM FOR US TO CONSTRUCT WHATEVER WE WANTED WITHOUT IMPACTING THE PUBLIC.
THAT'S THE BENEFIT THAT YOU HAVE HERE WITH THE LAYOUT THAT YOU HAVE WITH THE LOCKER ROOMS BEING PLACED OUTSIDE OF THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING.
THEY CAN BE SEGREGATED FROM THE REST OF THE ACTIVITIES INSIDE THE BUILDING.
SAME THING GOES FOR THE, FOR THE ENTRANCE THAT, THAT JEFF TOUCHED ON.
YOU CAN BUILD TEMPORARY PARTITIONS TO KEEP THE PUBLIC OUT OF, YOU KNOW, THE WORKERS' WAY.
UM, YOU DON'T WANT TO ANYBODY GETTING HURT.
SO, AND THAT AREA THERE IS MAINLY UTILIZED FOR EXITING THE ARENA, AT LEAST FROM MY EXPERIENCE.
SO YOU CAN STILL UTILIZE THE EXISTING MAIN ENTRANCE TO THE, THE RINK AND NOT IMPACT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT AREA.
UM, AND THEN WITH THE NEW RENOVATION OF THOSE LOCKER ROOMS, YOU WOULD IDEALLY WANT TO HAVE THE NEW LOCKER ROOM ADDITION UP AND READY TO GO BEFORE YOU EVEN TACKLE THAT SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
AND JUST LAST THING ON NOW, WHAT WE WOULD TYPICALLY DO FOR THAT TOO, WE WOULD HAVE A, A PHASING DIAGRAM THAT WOULD SHOW THE NUMBER OF WEEKS THAT WE'D BE IN EVERY AREA SO THAT THE ASSOCIATION COMPLETELY UNDERSTOOD THAT OKAY, THESE GUYS, THEY'RE GONNA BE OVER HERE FOR THIS LONG AND WE'LL PUT UP SOME BANNERS OR SOMETHING TO HIDE IT AND THEN WHEN IT OPENS UP WE'LL MOVE AROUND.
I CAN BE PUTTING ANY NEW BATHROOMS IN THE NEW LOCKER ROOM AREA SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO ALL ACROSS.
CAN YOU GO ACROSS THERE? YEAH.
SO, UM, THE NEW NEW NEW NEW LOCKER ROOMS, WHETHER THEY'RE IN AN ADDITION OR THEY'RE UNDERNEATH THE MEZZANINE OR WHATEVER, THE BUDGET COMES OUT TO NEW LOCKER ROOMS NO MATTER WHAT ARE GONNA HAVE ENCLOSED, UH, TOILET ROOMS. UM, TYPICALLY THE TREND NOW OBVIOUSLY INDIVIDUAL SHOWERS, UM, SO THOSE WILL HAVE ALL BATHROOM FACILITIES.
WHAT WE WERE SHOWING ON THIS OTHER SIDE WAS ACTUALLY TO KNOCK OUT THAT WHOLE ROW OF LOCKER ROOMS, DO TWO FEATURE ROOMS, WHAT WE CALL FEATURE ROOMS WITH UM, TOILET ROOMS AND SHOWERS WITHIN THOSE AS WELL.
SO THERE'S NO TRAVEL IN OR OUT OF THE LOCKER ROOMS FOR SHOWERS, ANYTHING.
UM, IN THIS SCENARIO, UM, ALL THE LOCKER ROOMS ARE SIZED APPROPRIATELY, UM, TO ACCOMMODATE ANY HIGH SCHOOL BOYS TEAM OR GIRLS TEAM OR YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE.
WE HAVE ENOUGH ROOM TO DO THAT.
UM, THAT LAYOUT OVER THERE WITH THE TWO ROOMS KIND OF LAYS PRETTY WELL, UM, FOR A HOCKEY TEAM IN TERMS OF THEY GOT THE BIG RECTANGLE AND THEN ACROSS FROM THERE THEY COULD HAVE SHOWERS AND TOILETS AND ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
UM, IN THE RFP IT DOES TALK ABOUT RENOVATION OF THE PUBLIC TOILET ROOMS, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS A LITTLE TOO MUCH TO PUT INTO THIS, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE'D BE LOOKING AT ALL THE SPACES.
THERE'S TWO EXTRAS HERE IF YOU WANT MINUTES BEFORE WE DO THE
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FOLKS, WE'RE GONNA CALL THE REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING TO ORDER TO START WITH THE UH, BUDGET REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS OUR CLERK FOR CALLING ROLE SUPERVISOR HO.PRESENT COUNCILMAN HOPE PRESENT? COUNCILMAN COUNCILMAN COUNTY PRESENT.
COUNCILWOMAN BERG PRESENT AND COUNCILMAN PRESENT.
AND WE'LL START WITH RESOLUTION NUMBER THREE.
RESOLVED THAT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD DOES HEAR RIGHT, APPROVE THE MEDS OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING AS FOLLOWS.
TOWN BOARD MEETING JUNE 6TH, 2022.
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER GUN SECOND.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CONLEY.
OPPOSED? CARRIED IN RECOGNITION OF THE LAKEVIEW COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION CENTENNIAL, WHEREAS 100 YEARS AGO IN 1922, A SMALL GROUP OF LOCAL CITIZENS MET WITH THE OBJECTIVE OF CREATING A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION TO CONVINCE THE PUBLIC UTILITIES TO EXTEND SERVICE TO LAKEVIEW AND TO GENERATE IDEAS AND INITIATE GROWTH IN THE AREA.
AND THE LAKEVIEW COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION WAS FORMED AND WHEREAS A CENTURY LATER, THE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION CONTINUES TO SERVE LAKEVIEW RESIDENTS
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AND THE TOWN OF HAMBURG THROUGH NUMEROUS CIVIC EVENTS SUCH AS CANDIDATE INFORMATION AIDS, HOLIDAY CELEBRATIONS AND BASKETS, COMMUNITY SOCIALS AND FUNDRAISERS.AND WHEREAS THE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION HAS ALWAYS PRIORITIZED THE CHILDREN OF THE COMMUNITY AND WORKED TIRELESSLY OVER THE YEARS TO ENHANCE THE RECREATIONAL FACILITIES AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR LAKEVIEW YOUTH THROUGH THEIR SISTER ORGANIZATION, LAKEVIEW ATHLETICS.
AND WHEREAS COMMUNITY ASSOCIATIONS FOR THE SUPPORT OF THE CHILDREN OF LAKEVIEW BY SPONSORING BOY SCOUTS, GIRL SCOUTS IN VARIOUS YOUTH CLUBS AND ALSO PROVIDING TWO SCHOLARSHIPS TO HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS WHO EXEMPLIFY VOLUNTEERISM.
AND WHEREAS COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION IN CONJUNCTION WITH LAKEVIEW VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY HOUSE THE WELL UP AND WELL ATTENDED LAKEVIEW MEMORIAL DAY PARADE AND CEREMONY HONORING OUR VETERANS NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED.
TOWN OF HAMBURG RECOGNIZES AND THANKS TO LAKEVIEW COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION FOR THEIR CONTINUED AND DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE PEOPLE OF LAKEVIEW AND THE TOWN OF HAMBURG AND BE A FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG CONGRATULATES THE LAKEVIEW COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION ON THEIR CENTENNIAL ANNIVERSARY.
SO MOVE, HOW ABOUT UNANIMOUS? SECOND AND, UH, UNANIMOUS SECOND OFFERED BY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER FARRELL.
OPPOSED CARRIED PROCLAMATION IN HONOR OF NATHAN ALESSANDRA'S 100TH BIRTHDAY SPEAKING OF CENTENNIALS, WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG VALUES AND HONORS THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF OUR CITIZENS AND WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG RECOGNIZES THAT OLDER ADULTS PROVIDE A RICH TROVE OF HISTORY, WISDOM, AND LONGTIME SERVICE TO OUR TOWN.
AND WHEREAS NATHAN AANDRA HAS BEEN A HAMBURG RESIDENT FOR 37 YEARS AND WHEREAS ON JULY 2ND, 2022, MR. AANDRA WILL CELEBRATE HIS 100 BIRTHDAY.
AND WHEREAS MR. ALESSANDRO WAS HUSBAND TO LATE IRENE ALBANO AND THE LATE ESTHER MASSETT.
AND WHEREAS MR. ALESSANDRO WAS FATHER OF LINDA GROSSING OF LAKEVIEW AND HAS TWO GRANDCHILDREN, KRISTEN LOMBARDO OF HAMBURG AND KELLY PERKINS OF SOME MISH WASHINGTON AND FIVE GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN, CODY HALEY, NATALIA NICHOLAS AND NOLAN.
AND WHEREAS MR. ALESSANDRA SERVED OUR COUNTRY HONORABLY AS A MEMBER OF THE ARMY EIGHTH AIR FORCE 367 BOMB SQUAD SQUADRON DURING WORLD WAR II FROM 1941 TO 1945.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED OF THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG.
THANKS MR. ALESSANDRA FOR HIS SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY AND TO HIS COUNTRY AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED OF THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG.
WISHES MR. ALESSANDRA A VERY HAPPY 100TH BIRTHDAY, SO MOVED.
SECOND OFFER BY COUNCIL MEMBER FARRELL.
OPPOSED GARY IN RECOGNITION, OH PAMELA M GOSS.
WHEREAS AS THE TOWN OF ANDREW ACKNOWLEDGES RETIREMENT OF PAMELA M GOSS DEDICATED, HARDWORKING, LOYAL EMPLOYEE WHO ALWAYS HAD THE BEST INTEREST OF HER COWORKERS IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG AT HEART.
AND WHEREAS PAM SERVICED AT THE TOWN SPAN A PERIOD OF 28 YEARS AS A LABORER, ASSISTANT MECHANIC, CREW CHIEF AND HEAVY EQUIPMENT OPERATOR.
AND WHEREAS PAM BEGAN WORKING FOR THE TOWN OF UNDER FORMER SUPERVISOR PAT HOKE, AT A TIME WHEN FEW WOMEN WORKED IN BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS AND SUPERVISOR HO BELIEVED IN HER, ENCOURAGED HER AS HER CAREER WITH THE TOWN PROGRESSED.
AND WHEREAS PAM'S DEDICATION AND WORK ETHIC WILL CONTINUE TO SERVE AN EXAMPLE TO HER THREE CHILDREN, ESPECIALLY HER TWO DAUGHTERS AND WOMEN IN LABOR AND CONSTRUCTION.
AND WHEREAS PAM HAS CONTINUOUSLY DEMONSTRATED KINDNESS, INTEGRITY, AND PROFESSIONALISM TO HER COWORKERS AND THE RESIDENTS OF THE TOWN.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THE TOWN OF HAMBURG AND THE BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS DEPARTMENT RECOGNIZED PAM AS A DEVOTED PUBLIC SERVANT AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT PAM'S COLLEAGUES, STAFF, AND FRIENDS BANK HER FOR HER MANY CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR TOWN AND WISH HER A LONG AND HAPPY RETIREMENT ON GOSS MOUNTAIN, HER PROPERTY IN PENNSYLVANIA.
UNANIMOUS SECOND OFFERED BY COUNCIL MEMBER FARRELL.
RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVED THE FOLLOWING APPOINTMENT TO THE ZONING BOARD FOR A TERM OF SEVEN YEARS.
BEGINNING JULY 1ST, 2022 CHRIS SMITH.
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER CONFER SECOND, SECOND MAY.
COUNCIL MEMBER KAMAN ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
COULD I JUST COMMENT THAT I THINK WE WERE FORTUNATE TO RECEIVE SEVERAL UM, GREAT RESUMES AND IT'S WONDERFUL WHEN WE HAVE CHOICES AND WE CAN LOOK FORWARD IN THE FUTURE MAYBE TO USING SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE WE WEREN'T ABLE TO UTILIZE THIS TIME.
GRAND VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY RESOLVED THAT THE HENRY TOWN BOARD DOES HEREBY APPROVE THE REQUEST OF SCRANTON VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY TO CONFIRM MEMBERSHIP UPON THE INDIVIDUALS AS FOLLOWS, ANTHONY SCHNEIDER.
SECOND MOTION BY SUPERVISOR HOPE.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HOPE.
WHERE THE TIME OF FAMILY RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM JOSEPH AND KIM JABLONSKI TO REZONE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 65 50 HEALTH ROAD FROM C TWO GENERAL COMMERCIAL
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DISTRICT TO RA RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT AND WHEREAS RYTON BOARD IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT HAS DETERMINED THAT THE PROPOSED REZONING WILL NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE NATURAL RESOURCES OF THE STATE AND OR THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE PUBLIC AND ITS CONSISTENT WITH SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC CONSIDERATIONS.NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED OF THE ZONING.
HAMBURG TOWN BOARD HEREBY DETERMINES IF THE PROPOSED REZONING IS NOT ANTICIPATED TO RESOLVE ANY SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AND THAT A NEGATIVE DECLARATION IS HEREBY ISSUED.
BE FURTHER RESOLVE THAT THE SUPERVISOR IS AUTHORIZED TO SIGN THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM.
THAT HELPS A MEMBER COMING THROUGH ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
WHEREAS THE TOM HAM RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM JOSEPH AND KIM KY TO REZO PROPERTY LOCATED AT 65 50 HEALTH THROUGHOUT FROM C TWO GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO RA, RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURE DISTRICT AND OURS.
THE HENRY PLANNING BOARD REVIEW THE REZONING REQUEST AND RECOMMENDED ON MAY 18TH, 2022 THAT THIS REZONING REQUEST BE APPROVED AND WHEREAS THE REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARING WAS HELD ON JUNE 6TH, 2022 AND WHEREAS EVERYTOWN BOARD HAS DETERMINED THAT THE PROPOSED RESOLVING WILL NOT RESULT IN ANY SIGNIFICANT NEGATIVE EFFECT ON THE ENVIRONMENT AND HAS ISSUED A NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND THE REZONING IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TOWN'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG TOWN BOARD HEREBY REZONES OF PROPERTY UNIFIED BELOW FROM C TWO TO RA BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE ZONING CODE OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG BE AMENDED AS FOLLOWS, TO AMEND LOCAL LAW NUMBER 10 OF THE YEAR, 1986, THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF V CHAPTER TWO 80 ENTITLED ZONING TO PROVIDE FOR A CHANGE IN THE BOUNDARY OF THE ZONING MAP WHEREBY THE ZONING HAS CHANGED FROM C TWO TO RA FOR THE PROPERTY IDENTIFIED BY SBL NUMBER 1 9 4 14 DASH ONE DASH SIX TWO.
THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZED THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO PURCHASE TWO COLT RIFLES WITH ACCESSORIES FOR TOTAL COST OF $5,237 AND 14 CENTS.
ONES ARE AVAILABLE IN B 4 3 5 8 ASSET FORFEITURE AND R TO BE TRANSFERRED FROM B 4 3 5 8 TO B 3 1 24 1 POLICE SULI SUPPLIES.
SECOND MAYOR COUNCILMAN ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
OPPOSED? CARRIED ALL THE TO BOARD AUTHORIZED POLICE DEPARTMENT TO PURCHASE 15 SWAT BULLETPROOF VESTS FROM FEDERAL EASTERN INTERNATIONAL FOR A TOTAL COST OF $32,697 AND 8 CENTS.
FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN B 4 3 5 8 ASSET FORFEITURE AND ARE TO BE TRANSFERRED FROM B 4 3 5 8 2 V 3 1 2 0 0.485 UNIFORM ALLOWANCE.
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER SECOND BY COUNCILMAN COME.
THE TOWN BOARD APPROVED THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE CHIEF OF POLICE IN HIRING GAIL CA PASO TO THE POSITION OF POLICE CLERK PART-TIME EFFECTIVE JULY 5TH WITH A PART-TIME RATE OF 2115 PER HOUR NOT TO EXCEED 19 HOURS PER WEEK.
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER HOPE SECOND.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER FARRELL ALL SAY AYE.
WHEREAS NORMA RU KELLY, A MEMBER OF THE HAMBURG INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AGENCY HAS RESIGNED FROM THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THAT AGENCY AND WHEREAS AS A RESULT OF THE RESIGNATION, A VACANCY ON THE BOARD EXISTS, THIS VACANCY SHALL BE FILLED BY THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD.
NOW THEREFORE BE A RESULT THAT HAMBURG TOWN BOARD APPOINTS JAMEL PERKINS TO BE A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, THE HAMBURG INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AGENCY REPLACING THE RE RESIGNING BOARD MEMBER FOR A TERM BEGINNING JUNE 27TH, 2022.
MOTION SUPERVISOR, HOPE SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CONLEY ALL FAVOR SAY AYE.
RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVED THE APPOINTMENT OF HUNTER GRAD TO THE FULL-TIME CIVIL SERVICE POSITION OF PRINCIPAL ENGINEER ASSISTANT FROM ELIGIBLE LIST REPORT NUMBER 67 DASH EIGHT SEVEN AND THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT PENDING SATISFACTORY BACKGROUND CHECK, PHYSICAL AND SATISFACTORY PROBATIONARY PERIOD.
THIS APPOINTMENT IS EFFECTIVE JUNE 28TH, 2022.
RATE OF PAY $34 AND 52 CENTS PER HOUR.
$71,801 ANNUALLY AND FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN A 1 4 4 0 POINT 100.
SO MOVED MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER COUNTY SECONDARY COUNCIL MEMBER FARRELL.
OPPOSED? GARY, HE RESOLVED THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZED NICOLE DEKA YOUTHFUL OFFENDER COORDINATOR TO TAKE AN ONLINE 12 WEEK GRIEF EDUCATOR CERTIFICATION PROGRAM.
TOPICS RANGE FROM IN-DEPTH UNDERSTANDING OF DEATH, DYING TRAUMA AND GRIEF TO LEARNING PROVEN STRATEGIES TO HELP WITH SUICIDE, CHILD LOSS, ADDICTION, AND LEAD GRIEF GROUPS.
THE COST OF THE TRAINING IS $1,650 AND THE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT A 7 0 2 4 9 2 SEMINARS SO MOVED.
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SECOND.MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER CONLEY.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER FOR ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
WHERE THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZED THE AGREEMENT WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT BUT TO UTILIZE CDVG CARES THREE FUNDS FOR AN ACCESSIBLE INCLUSIONARY PLAYGROUND AT THE TOWN'S RECREATION CENTER AT THE NIKE SITE AND WHEREAS HAMBURG COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE RECREATION AND BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS DEPARTMENTS TO ADVANCE THIS PROJECT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
AND WHEREAS THE TOWN UTILIZED GAMETIME PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT FOR DESIGN ASSISTANCE BASED UPON THEIR PREVIOUS WORK WITH THE TOWN.
AND WHEREAS GAME TIME PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR USE BY THE BUFFALO OFFICE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT FUND.
FOR THIS PROJECT UNDER NEW YORK STATE CONTRACT PC SIX SEVEN A THREE FOUR AND THE OMNIA NATIONAL CONTRACTS GAME TIME CONTRACT 2 0 1 7 0 0 1 1 3 4 RFP PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT 2 6 9 DASH 2 0 1 7 0 2 8 NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED AT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD, AUTHORIZES HAMBURG COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TO PROCEED WITH THE ACCESSIBLE INCLUSIONARY PLAYGROUND PROJECT UTILIZING APPROVED CDBG CARES THREE FUNDING AUTHORIZED FOR THIS PROJECT.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MCCARROLL.
SECOND COUNCILMAN MCC NOR SAY AYE.
WHEREAS TO PREPARE FOR THE UPCOMING 2023 CDBG YEAR, THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MUST HOLD PUBLIC HEARINGS TO SEEK CITIZEN PARTICIPATION AND INPUT FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT AND HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM FUNDING.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TO HOLD PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE FOLLOWING DATES, TIMES, AND LOCATIONS.
AUGUST 15TH, 2020 2, 5 30 AND SIX 30 HAMBURG TOWN HALL, SEPTEMBER 12TH, 2020 2, 5 30 AND 6:30 PM HAMBURG TOWN HALL, SEPTEMBER 19TH, 2022 5:00 PM HAMBURG VILLAGE HALL, SEPTEMBER 26TH, 2020 2, 5 30 AND 6:30 PM HAMBURG TOWN HALL.
OCTOBER 17TH, 2020 2, 5 30 AND 6:30 PM HAMBURG TOWN HALL AND OCTOBER 19TH, 2022 6:00 PM BLAZED OUT VILLAGE HALL BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT NOTICE OF THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS BE PUBLISHED WITHIN THE OFFICIAL TOWN NEWSPAPER AND ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE.
MOTION MAY COUNCILMAN FERRELL.
IT RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES THE BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS DEPARTMENT TO ADVERTISE A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR PAVING THE PARKING LOT AT THE BNG HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT LOCATED AT 2 7 1 8 LAKEVIEW ROAD FUNDS AVAILABLE IN H TWO 1.7 1 8 0 3 0 3 WITH ADDITIONAL FUNDS OF $66,660 TO BE TRANSFERRED FROM A 0.1 9 9 0 4 9 TO A 0.7 1 4 0 3 0 3.
WHEREAS ON MARCH 28TH, 2022, THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZED THE DEPARTMENT OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY TO RELEASE AN RFP FOR WEBSITE DESIGN AND IMPLEMENTATION AND WHEREAS THE RPS WERE OPENED ON MAY 3RD, 2022 FOR THE FOLLOWING FIRM SUBMITTING A PROPOSAL CIVIC PLUS AND WHEREAS THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL INVESTMENT COST WAS $15,923 AND WHEREAS AFTER ADDITIONAL FEATURES AND AMENITIES WERE ADDED TO THE FINAL INVESTMENT COST, IT INCREASED TO $30,329.
NOW THEREFORE BE OF RESOLVED THAT THE HAMMER TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES THE CONTRACT WITH CIVIC PLUS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A NEW TOWN WEBSITE.
NOW BE OF FURTHER RESOLVED THAT IN A PREVIOUS RESOLUTION PASSED BY THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD ON NOVEMBER 15TH, 2021, ARPA FUNDS WERE APPROVED TO COVER THIS EXPENDITURE FUNDS WILL BE TRANSFERRED FROM A 4 0 8 9 TO A 1 6 9 0 4 2 3 4 0 3.
SECOND COUNCILMAN IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
WHEREAS THE TON OF RECEIVED GRANTS AND DONATIONS FROM TIME TO TIME AND WHEREAS USE OF THESE FUNDS HAS BEEN DETERMINED BY THE GRANTING AGENCY DONOR AND WHEREAS THOSE ITEMS ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE 2022 BUDGET NOW THEREFORE IT RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVES THE RECEIPT OF THE FOLLOWING MONIES AND APPROVES A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO THE REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE ACCOUNTS AS FOLLOWS AND LISTED.
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COUNCIL MEMBER FERRELL.WHEREAS A TON OF HAMBURG RECEIVES INSURANCE PROCEEDS RENTAL INCOME AND REIMBURSEMENT FOR SERVICES FROM TIME TO TIME, WHEREAS USE OF THESE FUNDS HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED BY THE RESPECTIVE DEPARTMENT AND WHEREAS THESE ITEMS ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE 2022 BUDGET NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED.
BUT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVED THE RECEIPT OF THE FOLLOWING MONIES AND APPROVES THE BUDGET AMENDMENT TO THE REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE ACCOUNTS AS FOLLOWS.
SO, LISTED SECOND, MOTION BY SUPERVISOR HALL, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CON ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVED THE TERMINATION AND HIRING OF PERSONNEL FOR THE YOUTH RECREATION AND SENIOR SERVICES DEPARTMENT AS PER THE ATTACHMENT.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER FAR ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
WHEREAS URBAN ENGINEERS AND AUTHORIZED AND DIRECTED BY THE HAMMER TOWN BOARD HAVE DESIGNED AND PREPARED BID DOCUMENTS AND HAS APPROVED THE, HAS THE APPROVAL OF THE DEC ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS AND NEW YORK STATE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT FOR THE REPAIR OF THE TOWN.
CLOCK, TOWER SIDEWALK AND RETRAINING WALL DAMAGED IN THE FALL OF 2019 STORM.
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES THE RELEASE AND ADVERTISEMENT OF THE CONTRACT DOCUMENTS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE HAMBURG TOWN CLOCK TOWER PROJECT FOR PUBLIC BID RELEASE AND BID OPENING DATES ARE TO BE DETERMINED AND ADVERTISED IN THE OFFICIAL NEWSPAPER AND ON THE TOWN OF HAMBURG WEBSITE.
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER SECOND.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HALL.
OPPOSED? CARRIED TO RESOLVE THE TOWN BOARD, APPROVE THE HIRING AND TERMINATION OF THE FOLLOWING EMPLOYEES IN THE BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS DEPARTMENT.
WHEREAS THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IS IN NEED OF A NEW VEHICLE AND WHEREAS PRICING IS HELD TO STANDARDS OF THE NEW YORK STATE OGS MINI BID FOR A NEW 2022 CHEVROLET EQUINOX.
AND NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZED THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT TO PURCHASE ONE NEW 2022 C CHEVY EQUINOX LS WITH ILS ALL WHEEL DRIVE FROM WEST HER CHEVROLET ON HAMBURG OF HAMBURG FOR THE PRICE NOT TO EXCEED $27,624 AND 43 CENTS.
25,000 OF FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT A 1 4 4 0 0 2 0 2 AND ADDITIONAL FUNDS WILL BE TRANSFERRED FROM ACCOUNT 1994.
ONE NINE NOT TO EXCEED $3,000.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER, COME ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
WHEREAS IN JULY, 2011, IN RECOGNITION OF THE GROWING PROBLEM OF STRESS, FAKE AND ABANDON
AND WHERE UNDER THIS LAW, THE BUFFALO AGRI LANDCORP IMPROVEMENT CORPORATION WAS FORMED VIA AN INNER MUNICIPAL AGREEMENT AMONG ERIE COUNTY AND THE CITIES OF BUFFALO, LACKAWANNA, AND TOWANDA.
AND WHEREAS COUNTYWIDE LAND BANKS HAVE PROVEN HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL IN REGIONS EXPERIENCING GROWING NUMBERS OF PROBLEM PROPERTIES BY SUPPORTING MUNICIPAL AND REGIONAL REVITALIZATION EFFORTS BY STRATEGICALLY REQUIRING, IMPROVING, ASSEMBLING AND SELLING THESE PROPERTIES.
AND WHEREAS BEN LAKE, THE LAND BANK SEEKS TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE CITIES, TOWNS, AND VILLAGES WITHIN ERIE COUNTY TO ADDRESS THE GROWING PROBLEM OF DISTRESSED, VACANT, ABANDONED, AND TAX DELINQUENT PROPERTIES.
AND WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG HAS RECOGNIZED THE NEED TO ADDRESS THE GROWING ISSUES OF DISTRESSED, VACANT, ABANDONED TAX DELINKED PROPERTIES IN ITS TOWN AND IS DESIROUS OF PARTNERING WITH BEN LAKE TO ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM.
AND WHEREAS WESTERN YORK LAW CENTER HAS APPROACHED DOWN OF HAMBURG ABOUT A VACANT ABANDONED PROPERTY LOCATED AT 31 96 WEST PLEASANT DRIVE, HAMBURG, NEW YORK 1 4 0 7 5 SBL NUMBER 1 8 2 0 0 0 DASH FOUR DASH FOUR THREE, WHICH IS CURRENTLY IN THE COUNTY OF ERIE'S IN INRE FORECLOSURE LIST AND SCHEDULED TO BE PUT UP AT THE ERIE COUNTY TAX AUCTION IN OCTOBER OF 2022.
AND WHEREAS DONNA DANBURG HAS AN INTEREST IN PRIORITIZING THE LOCAL AND OR OWNER OCCUPIED OWNERSHIP OF FORECLOSED PROPERTIES IN THE TOWN, WHICH IS ALSO THE MISSION OF BENLI, WHO WISHES TO SUPER BID THE PROPERTY NOW THEREFORE, WE HAD RESOLVED THE TOWN OF HAMBY OFFICIALLY REQUEST THAT BEN LINK ACQUIRE THE FILING PROPERTY.
31 96 WEST PLEASANT DRIVE, HAMBURG, NEW YORK, 1 4 0 7 5 SBL NUMBER 1 8 2 0 0 0 DASH FOUR DASH FOUR THREE.
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SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CONLEY.OPPOSED? CARRIED YOU RESOLVED THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZED SUPERVISOR RANDY HOKE AND DIRECTOR OF FINANCE, PAT SHAY, TO REVIEW AND RELEASE CHECKS FROM 6 28 22 THROUGH TEN NINE TWENTY TWO DUE TO THE REDUCED TOWN BOARD MEETING SCHEDULE DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS SO MOVED.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HOPE ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED? CARRIED WHEREIN UPON EXTENSIVE REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION OF OPERATIONS WITHIN THE TOWN OF THE PAST FEW MONTHS, IT HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED THAT SOME ORGANIZATIONAL RESTRUCTURING WOULD BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE TOWN.
NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED IF THE TOWN BOARD UPON THE RECEIPT OF THE CIVIL SERVICE AUTHORITY AUTHORIZED THE SUPERVISOR TO SIGN SECTION EIGHT OF THE ATTACHED PO SEVENTEENS FOR THE CREATION OF ONE FULL-TIME POSITION TITLED PERSONNEL SUPERVISOR AND ONE FULL-TIME POSITION TITLED SUPERINTENDENT OF PUBLIC WORKS.
SECOND MOTION BY SUPERVISOR HOGUE.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CONLEY.
IT RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVED THE AUDIT OF CASH DISBURSEMENTS DATED JUNE 27TH, 2022.
TOTAL CASH DISBURSEMENT SUBMITTED TO AUDIT A TOTAL OF $2,269,000.
SECOND MOTION, MY SUPERVISOR HO SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER FARRELL.
OPPOSED? YOU HAVE A COUPLE ITEMS THAT WE WILL, UH, ADJOURN FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION ON, UH, PERSONNEL IN A MATTER OF PENDING LITIGATION, BUT WE CAN FIRST DO THE BUSINESS ROOM, THE FLOOR AND DEPARTMENT HEADS.
SO WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR ANY BUSINESS FROM THE FLOOR.
IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE BOARD, WE INVITE YOU TO COME UP TO THE FRONT OF THE ROOM.
SEEING THAT THERE IS NONE RIGHT NOW, WE WILL MOVE TO THE REPORTS FROM DEPARTMENT HEADS, UH, ENGINEERING.
I JUST WANNA THANK THE BOARD FOR SITTING THROUGH DOING PRESENTATIONS ON THE ACCOUNT ARENA PROJECT.
I INVITE ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASK, SEND 'EM TO ME AND I WILL DISTRIBUTE THEM ACCORDINGLY.
AND THEN I INVITE YOU ALSO TO GIVE ME ANY OPINIONS OR IMPRESSIONS OR THOUGHTS ON THE THREE FIRMS THAT YOU SAW TODAY.
OTHERWISE, THANK YOU FOR THE RESOLUTIONS THAT ARE ON THIS.
WILL YOU LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING HUNTER JOIN OUR TEAM? AND WE'RE GETTING A VEHICLE THAT'S LESS THAN 10 YEARS OLD.
UM, YEAH, THIS IS TOMORROW SEASON, UH, ING SEASON OPENS UP.
UM, WE WERE STARTING, UH, THE MILL AND PAVE KUSHNER, CHAPMAN, KELSEY, AND WALBRIDGE.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA JUMP RIGHT OVER TO GRANDVIEW, CAST AND SUNNYSIDE AND, UM, SPRAGUE AND LORAN.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA FINISH UP WITH BAYVIEW LOWERING AND DEL ISLAND.
REASSESS HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE LEFT OUT OUR BUDGET TO GO FROM THERE.
UM, THE ELECTRONICS RECYCLE, UH, WAS PRETTY, UH, PRETTY BIG.
UH, SUCCESS, I GUESS WE HAVE 85 PALLETS THAT WE RETURNED TO, UM, TO THE, UH, COMPANY THAT WE HIRED OUT TO, TO, UH, RECYCLE THEM.
SO THAT WAS PRETTY, UH, PRETTY GOOD.
AND, UH, GETTING A LOT OF FEEDBACK.
WHAT I'M GONNA DO THE NEXT ONE.
SO I I FOUND OUT, UH, THROUGH THE, UH, CIRCLE HERE THAT COME AFTER THIS, UH, JANUARY, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S GONNA MAKE IT FREE FOR THE PUBLIC TO TURN THEIR STUFF IN.
AND THEN THE, THE COMPANY CAN'T CHARGE US TO GET REMOVED.
I GUESS THEY'RE GONNA GO AFTER THE MANUFACTURERS OF THE TVS THEY TO, UH, TO ABSORB THE COST.
SO THAT WOULD BE VERY GOOD FOR OUR PUBLIC SO WE CAN START ON A REGULAR BASIS.
THEY, THEY COME AND, AND HAND STUFF IN ALL THE TIME.
UM, MAJORITY OF OUR CALLS AT, AT UH, UH, LAKEVIEW ROAD IS ON BRUSH AND WE'RE WORKING ON THE ISSUES THERE.
UM, AND THAT'S ALL I GOT RIGHT NOW.
MIGRATION KICKING INTO FULL GEAR TODAY.
UH, WANNA SWIM? BASKETBALL, TENNIS, AND TOMORROW.
OTHER THAN I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE IF I A PATRICIA HARRIS WHO HAS BEEN ASSISTING US WITH ENHANCING OUR RECRUITMENT, FEMALE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS.
SHE'S A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE AND HAS BEEN A GREAT RESOURCE FOR US.
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HI PATRICIA.NOTHING I REALLY REPORT AT THIS TIME.
UM, THIS IS OUR LAST WEEK OF ON TAX COLLECTION FOR THE COUNTY.
SO AS OF THE 30TH, UH, WE CAN NO LONGER COLLECT THE ROLE WILL BE TURNED OVER TO THE COUNTY AND THEY'LL COLLECT ANY OKAY.
ALRIGHT, REPORTS FROM THE BOARD.
I'M, I'M JUST GONNA ADD ON TO WHAT CHIEF TRASK SAID.
UM, WE ALSO, I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW PATRICIA A. LITTLE BIT THROUGH SOME OF HER EXPERIENCE.
YOU SHARED WITH ME, I KNOW THE, UH, POLICE EXAM'S COMING UP IN JULY, RIGHT? SEPTEMBER, SEPTEMBER.
IS IT SEPTEMBER? YEAH, THIS, THE DEADLINE'S JULY.
SO, UM, PATRICIA'S BEEN DILIGENT IN GETTING US INFORMATION, UH, BUT ALSO WE'VE REIGNITED COMMUNICATION WITH THE POLICE COMMITTEE.
SO WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING A DATE SET TO HAVE, UM, THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, UM, MEET WITH CAPTAIN EZ, EVALUATE SOME OF THE GOALS WE HAD ESTABLISHED IN THE PROCESS LAST YEAR.
SO TO YOUR CREDIT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR EFFORTS AND, AND LOOKING TOWARDS THOSE GOALS.
UM, AND THEN KIND OF HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS FROM THERE AND HAVE THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED.
SO WE'RE HOPING TO SET A MEETING DATE, UM, BY THE END OF JULY.
UH, IN REGARDS TO THE GOLF COURSE, I JUST WANTED TO THANK, UH, PAT RYAN, THE WHOLE BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS DEPARTMENT, UH, ED HUGHES FROM THE HIGHWAY AND, UH, LUKE SULLIVAN FROM THE REC DEPARTMENT.
UM, ONE OF THE BIGGEST COMPLAINTS WE'VE HAD IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS IS THE, UM, CAR PASS.
AND, UH, THEY HAVE BEEN COORDINATING, UH, GETTING WOOD CHIPS, UM, AND, UH, HELPING INSTALL AND, AND PAD UP THE, THE CAR PASS.
AND, UH, FOR THE FIRST YEAR WE'RE, WE'RE NOW GETTING COMPLIMENTS, UM, ON THE, THE CAR PATH AS OPPOSED TO COMPLAINTS.
SO, UH, IT'S OBVIOUSLY WORKING AS WELL AS, UH, SOME OF THE OTHER INITIATIVES, UM, IN TERMS OF MOVING THE HOLES ON THE GREENS.
THAT WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, A COMPLAINT AND A SUGGESTION.
UH, SO EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION, THE, THE, THE COMMITTEE, UM, THAT MEETS, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THE SEASON AND AFTER THE SEASON, UM, EVERYBODY'S TACKLING THAT LIST AND WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF COMPLIMENTS.
SO, UH, I JUST WANTED TO THANK ALL THE COORDINATION OF THAT AND LET THE GOLFERS KNOW.
UM, IT'S IN GREAT SHAPE TO, TO GO OUT AND ENJOY IT.
COUNCIL, I REPORT COUNCIL, I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE RESIDENTS OF LAKEVIEW FOR THROWING A FABULOUS PARTY LAST THIS PAST SATURDAY FOR THEIR, UH, CELEBRATION.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO A YEAR WORTH OF CELEBRATING THEIR SUCCESS IN THAT COMMUNITY.
NOW I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO, UH, UH, CONGRATULATE THE LAKEVIEW COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION, AND THANK YOU.
THANK THEM FOR THEIR HOSPITALITY ON, ON SATURDAY AT THEIR EVENTS.
UM, I ALSO WANT TO CONGRATULATE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT ON, UM, UH, A VERY SUCCESSFUL SPECIAL OLYMPICS PORCH RUN WHERE WE HAD MANY OF THE OFFICERS FROM, FROM HAMBURG, UH, HELPING TO SUPPORT SPECIAL OLYMPICS.
IT WAS A, IT WAS A GREAT CEREMONY.
UM, WE, WE CERTAINLY HAVE A, A LOT TO BE PROUD OF WITH OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH SPECIAL OLYMPICS.
UM, I ALSO AM, UM, HAPPY TO REPORT THAT, UH, THIS PAST THURSDAY WE HOSTED HAMBURG, HOSTED THE ASSOCIATION OF ERIE COUNTY GOVERNMENTS, UM, AT THE, UM, LOWER BANK COUNTRY CLUB.
UH, AND THIS IS A MONTHLY MEETING, UH, WHERE WE HAVE GOVERNMENTS, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS FROM ALL OVER ERIE COUNTY.
AND THE TOPIC OF CONVERSATION AND PRESENTATION HAD TO DO WITH ELECTRICAL VEHICLES, CHARGING STATIONS, AS WELL AS, UH, FLEET ELECTRIFICATION.
UH, VERY INTERESTING PRESENTATION, LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES AND SOME GRANTS THAT ARE OUT THERE, UM, TO HELP US BECOME A, A CLEANER, GREENER COMMUNITY.
UM, I ALSO, UH, WOULD LIKE TO, TO REPORT THAT I'VE, I'VE HAD SEVERAL INTERESTING CONVERSATIONS WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.
UM, OUR HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENT AND HUGHES AND MYSELF HAVE BEEN TALKING AS WELL ABOUT COMPOSTING WHAT WE DO WITH OUR, OUR, OUR, OUR BRUSH, UM, AND HOW WE CAN DIVERT, UH, WASTE FROM, FROM LANDFILLS.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT NEW YORK STATE WILL RUN OUT OF LANDFILL SPACE IN SEVEN YEARS.
SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE SOME BIG CHANGES.
AND THERE'S BIG CHANGES THAT ARE GONNA BE REQUIRED OF, OF BUSINESSES AS WELL AS MUNICIPALITIES.
UH, RECENTLY THE ERIE COUNTY COMPTROLLER,
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KEVIN HARDWICK HAS CONVENED, UM, SOME LEADERS FROM LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO WORK TOGETHER REGIONALLY TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.THERE'S CERTAINLY, UM, UH, A COST EFFECTIVE OPPONENT AS WELL AS, UH, AN ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, COMPONENT.
AND THERE THERE COULD VERY WELL BE SOME, SOME OPPORTUNITIES.
AT THE SAME TIME, I HAVE BEEN HEARING FROM SIGNIFICANTLY AN INCREASING NUMBER OF RESIDENTS WHO WOULD LIKE TO, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT HOW WE COLLECTIVELY AS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, UH, ADDRESS, UH, REFUSE AND, AND GARBAGE COLLECTION.
FOLKS MAY REMEMBER THAT IN 2005, THE, THE TOWN OF HAMBURG HAD A REFERENDUM ON A SINGLE, UH, TOWN WIDE GARBAGE DISTRICT, UM, AND THAT, UH, THAT REFERENDUM FAILED.
UM, HOWEVER, I THINK THERE'S, IT'S A DIFFERENT TIME.
THE COST OF, UH, GARBAGE, UH, SERVICES HAVE HAVE RISEN SUBSTANTIALLY.
AND I, I HEAR FROM MULTIPLE RESIDENTS EACH WEEK, UH, THAT THEY WOULD LIKE THE TOWN TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THIS ISSUE.
UM, AND THEN FINALLY, UM, I, I JUST WANT TO REPORT.
I, I WENT TO, UH, THE TOWN PARK THIS AFTERNOON, UH, BECAUSE I WAS, I WAS MEETING A, A CONSTITUENT NEAR THE LAKE.
UH, I SWUNG BY AND TO WATCH THE TRANSFORMATION OF THAT BEACH, UM, THROUGH THE SEASON.
I'VE ENJOYED THAT BEACH MY WHOLE LIFE, BUT I SHOW UP ON MEMORIAL DAY AND, AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL.
BUT I WAS ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT BEACH IN FEBRUARY AND MARCH OF THIS YEAR, AND IT'S, IT'S REMARKABLE.
UM, SO KUDOS TO THE BUILDINGS, THE GROUND STAFF, UM, AS WELL AS THE LIFEGUARDS WHO ARE KEEPING OUR, OUR COMMUNITY SAFE OUT THERE.
ONE MORE SHOT FOR ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE BOARD.
IF NOT, WE'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS A, UH, MATTER OF PENDING LITIGATION AND A PERSONNEL MATTER.
ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? CARRIED.