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WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE, UH, WE HAVE, UM, TWO TOWN BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE ABSENT FOR THE WORK SESSION.
UH, BUT WE DO ANTICIPATE COMING THIRD HERE FOR THE REGULAR BUDGET.
UH, FIRST ON OUR AGENDA TODAY IS THE, UH, FINAL PUBLIC MEETING FOR OUR GATEWAY REVITALIZATION PLAN.
NOW WE'LL TURN THINGS OVER TO
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THANKS FOR HAVING ME TONIGHT.UH, ED FLYNN, I'M THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AT LABEL ASSOCIATES.
I'M HERE WITH DEREK KANE FROM LABEL ASSOCIATES, AND WE WERE ENGAGED BY THE TOWN OF HAMBURG TO COME UP WITH A, THE GATEWAY REVITALIZATION PROJECT, WHICH IS A PROJECT TO LOOK AT, UM, WAYS TO REVITALIZE THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS, UM, WITHIN THE VILLAGE.
JUST LEFT
AND SO WE WORKED WITH A STEERING COMMITTEE, UH, TO COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS FOR REVITALIZING BOTH THE PUBLIC AREAS IN TERMS OF THE ROAD BASE AND SIDEWALKS AND SOME OF THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEDESTRIAN BICYCLE OPPORTUNITIES, AS WELL AS LOOKING AT SOME OF THE PRIVATE PROPERTIES AS WELL.
UM, AND IT WAS ABOUT A SIX MONTH PROJECT PRETTY QUICK.
UM, BUT WE GOT IT DONE ON TIME AND WE HAD SOME REALLY GOOD INVESTMENT FOR THE COMMITTEE.
WE HAD SOME COMMITTEE MEMBERS HERE.
ELIZABETH WAS ON IT, AND THEN, AND THEN MEMBERS.
BUT, UH, GOOD COMMITTEE THAT GAVE A LOT OF GOOD, GOOD INPUT
SO FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE GONNA REVIEW THE PROJECT BACKGROUND, UM, AND HOW WE GOT HERE.
THEN WE'RE GONNA REVIEW THE PLANS THAT, UH, THE COMMITTEE AND THE CONSULTANTS CAME UP WITH OR WE DID.
AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS AND NEXT STEPS RELATED TO THE PROJECT.
SO A LITTLE BIT OF THE PROJECT BACKGROUND.
AS I SAID, THE, THE FOCUS OF THE PROJECT WAS TO REVITALIZE THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS IN THE TOWN AND VILLAGE OF HAMBURG, SPECIFICALLY SOUTH PARK AVENUE SOUTH, AS WELL AS CAMP LAKE, LAKE ROAD CORRIDOR.
UM, WE ALSO WANTED TO FOCUS ON THE PLAZA AND THE COMMERCIAL LOTS IN TERMS OF REDEVELOPING THOSE FOR THE SITES AND THE BUILDINGS, AND THEN LOOK AT THE ROADWAYS IN TERMS OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR MULTIMODAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR CARS, BIKES, PEDESTRIANS, AND ALSO FOR SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS.
AND THEN WE ALSO WANNA LOOK FOR NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTIONS, AND ESPECIALLY FOR CONNECTIONS FOR, UH, SOME OF THE STUDENTS THAT NEED TO TRAVEL FROM EAST TO WEST ON SOME OF THESE, UM, ROADWAYS AND GETTING TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
UM, AND THEN WE, AS, AS A PART OF THAT, WE PUT ALL OF THAT INFORMATION INTO CONCEPTUAL REDEVELOPMENT PLANS AND RELATED RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH WE'LL FOCUS ON.
SO OUR LOCAL PLANNING COMMITTEE, LIKE I SAID, WAS A SEVEN MEMBER CO COMMITTEE, WHICH INCLUDED, UH, FOLKS THAT I JUST MENTIONED FROM THE TOWN BOARD, AS WELL AS PEOPLE FROM THE PLANNING BOARD.
UH, SEAN DOYLE FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WAS THERE AS WELL.
AND WE HAD LORI HACKATHORN FROM THE VILLAGE BOARD, WHICH ALSO JOINED US.
AND THEN MARK MALKI WAS OUR GRANTS CONSULTANT FOR THE PROJECT.
UM, OUR CONSULT TEAM WAS ME AND AS WELL AS DEREK WE'RE BOTH PLANNERS AND DESIGN PROFESSIONALS.
UM, AND WE HAD, WE WERE JOINED BY, UH, OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE FOLKS, AS WELL AS OUR TRANSPORTATION FOLKS TO HELP US, UM, COME UP WITH SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND DEVELOPED POINTS.
SO THE THREE AREAS WE FOCUSED ON WERE SOUTH PARK BETWEEN QUIMBEE ROAD AND THE VILLAGE BOUNDARY CAMP ROAD SOUTH AND LAKE STREET BETWEEN DEACON AND I BELIEVE IT'S CHURCH STREET IN THE VILLAGE, AND THEN CAMP ROAD NORTH, WHICH WAS PRIMARILY THE AREA, UH, WHERE THE CAMP ROAD MEETS WITH THE, UH, INTERCHANGE FOR NEW YORK, THE NEW YORK THROUGHWAY.
AND WE DID HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC WORKSHOP ABOUT SIX, UH, THREE MONTHS AGO, UH, RIGHT HERE WHERE WE WORKED WITH, UH, FOLKS THAT CAME IN FROM THE PUBLIC TO COME UP WITH IDEAS FOR EACH OF THESE AREAS.
AND THEY CAME UP WITH SOME GREAT IDEAS, WHICH WE INCORPORATED INTO THE FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE PLAN.
UM, AND THESE ARE KIND OF SMALL FOR FOLKS THAT ARE PROBABLY IN THE PUBLIC.
UM, SO I'LL TRY TO DESCRIBE SOME OF THESE.
AND THEN WE HAVE SOME CROSS SECTIONS OF POTENTIAL CHANGES TO SOME OF THE ROADWAYS, AS WELL AS SOME VISUALS TO SHOW HOW THESE CHANGES COULD ACTUALLY, UM, COME ABOUT.
SO, AS I SAID, THE AR AREA IN SOUTH PARK, WE LOOKED BETWEEN QUIMBEE ROAD AND THE VILLAGE LINE AND SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE HAVE.
AND WE DID TALK TO SOME OF THE DEVELOPERS ALONG THE ROUTE AS WELL.
UM, BEFORE THE MEETING, UH, THE FIRST ONE WAS TO PUT SOME LINER BUILDINGS, UM, ALONG SOME OF THE PLAZA DEVELOPMENTS, UM, ON SALT PARK AVENUE.
UM, THAT WOULD BE MIXED USE BUILDINGS.
IT WOULD HAVE RETAIL BELOW AND POTENTIALLY COMMERCIAL ABOVE.
UH, WE DID TALK TO THE DEVELOPERS AND SOME OF THE COMMENTS THEY HAD WERE,
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UM, AT A MINIMUM THEY NEED TWO ROWS OF PARKING IN THE FRONT OF THEIR BUILDING.UH, AND ANOTHER ONE SAID TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S SOME KIND OF VISIBILITY, UH, BETWEEN SOUTH PARK AND THE BUILDINGS BEHIND, UH, THOSE BUILDINGS SO THAT, UM, THE OTHER, IT DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, AFFECT SOME OF THE BUSINESSES IN THE BACK OF THE BUILDING.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY THIS COULD HAPPEN AND IF YOU CHANGE YOUR ZONING LAW TO ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN, TO HAVE BUILDINGS UP AGAINST THE ROAD, IF SOME OF THOSE DEVELOPERS WANT SOME OF THE PARKING IN FRONT, YOU MAYBE CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE, ALLOW SOME OF THAT.
BUT THIS IS REALLY A VISION FOR THE FUTURE, AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT THIS ENVISION ENVISIONS HERE.
SO AGAIN, UH, BUILDINGS UP AGAINST THE STREET ON THE ROADWAY IN SOUTH PARK, UH, AS WELL AS SOME DOWN SOUTH HERE ON SOUTH PARK AS WELL.
UM, THERE ALSO WAS A PROPOSAL TO HAVE A NEW MULTIMODAL TRAIL SYSTEM, SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT THERE ALONG HERE.
UH, NUMBER TWO THERE, UM, LEMME GET CLOSER TO THIS BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE AT THIS POINTER HERE.
UM, BUT ALONG HERE YOU HAVE A TRAIL SYSTEM GOING FROM CLARK STREET ALL THE WAY TO LEG AND DRIVE.
UH, GOES THROUGH PART OF THE, UH, HAMBURG GROUNDS PROPERTY THAT THEN CONNECTS UP WITH A UTILITY RIGHT OF WAY TO THE NORTH OF THE PROJECT AREA AND THEN CONNECTS EVENTUALLY TO LEAD AND DRIVE DOWN HERE.
THERE ALSO IS ANOTHER PORTION OF IT THAT GOES FROM, UM, CLARK ROAD ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE TOWN HALL PROPERTY WHERE WE ARE CONNECTS TO THE SIDEWALKS ON SOUTH PARK AVENUE AND THEN EVENTUALLY TAKES ADVANTAGE OF THE SIGNALIZE INTERSECTION AT TOPS, UM, AT COLONIAL CIRCLE SO STUDENTS CAN CROSS THERE AND USE THOSE STREETS TO GET TO THE, UM, SCHOOL CAMPUS AS WELL.
THERE ALSO IS A PROPOSAL LAB NEWS SIDEWALKS ON THE WEST SIDE OF SOUTH PARK AVENUE WHERE THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS RIGHT NOW, UH, TO INCREASE, UH, PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD.
UM, AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE ENHANCED CROSSWALKS AT ALL THE SIGNALED INTERSECTIONS WHERE YOU HAVE BUMPOUTS ENHANCED, UM, STRIPING.
UM, AND IT'S AN ENHANCED LANDSCAPING AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, IT FEELS COMFORTABLE TO ACTUALLY CROSS THE STREET AT THOSE AREAS.
UM, WE ALSO PROPOSE POTENTIALLY HAVING SOME GREEN, SOME QUASI-PUBLIC GREEN AREAS OR SOME PUBLIC AREAS WITHIN THE PRIVATE PROPERTIES.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THE PRIVATE PROPERTIES HAVE THEIR PRIORITIES IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY WANNA DO WITH THEIR PROPERTIES, BUT THERE IS A TREND TO HAVE LIFESTYLE TYPE CENTERS, UM, WHERE YOU CAN HAVE RESTAURANTS AND, AND OTHER OPPORTUNITIES, UH, WHERE YOU HAVE OUTDOOR CAFES AND THINGS LIKE THAT AT THE PRIVATE PROPERTY.
UM, AND THEN THAT IS, THAT'S MOST OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT ON SOUTH PARK AVENUE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF WE ALSO WANT TO HAVE SOME MORE SIDEWALKS AND BIKE LANES GOING NORTH, UM, ON SOUTH PARK AVENUE TO, UH, QUINLEE DRIVE, SO THERE'S ACCESS TO THE COLLEGE AS WELL.
SO HERE ARE SOME CROSS SECTIONS OF THE BEFORE AND AFTER FOR SOUTH PARK AVENUE FOR SOME OF THE POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, SO AT THE, ON THE TOP YOU HAVE THE EXISTING SECTION.
ON THE BOTTOM YOU HAVE THE PROPOSED SECTION.
UM, SO RIGHT NOW IN SOUTH PARK AVENUE, YOU WOULD HAVE TWO TRAVEL LANES AND A TURNING LANE DOWN THE CENTER.
UM, YOU HAVE FIVE FOOT, UM, STRIPED SHOULDERS ON THE SIDE.
AND THEN YOU HAVE, UM, IN THIS SECTION, FOR INSTANCE, IN FRONT OF THE TOWN HALL, YOU HAVE PARKING IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
UM, AND THEN YOU DO HAVE SIDEWALKS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE ROAD, BUT NOT ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD.
THE PROPOSAL IS TO REALLY DO A SIGNIFICANT ROAD DIET ON SOUTH PARK AVENUE.
YOU WOULD MAINTAIN, UH, BOTH OF THE LANES.
YOU WOULD MAINTAIN THE TURNING LANE BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF ENTRANCES, UM, ALONG THE, THE CORRIDOR.
BUT YOU WOULD INCREASE THE WIDTH OF THE PLANTING STRIPS, UM, FROM 15 TO 20 FEET.
UM, AND YOU WOULD ADD SIDEWALKS TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD.
UM, AND THAT WOULD REALLY INCREASE THE, UH, OR DECREASE THE WIDTH OF CROSSING THE STREET, MAKE IT MORE COMFORTABLE, MAKE IT FEEL MORE ENCLOSED FOR FOLKS DRIVING DOWN THE STREET.
UM, AND ALSO, UM, OBVIOUSLY IT ADDS A LOT OF LANDSCAPING AND IT IMPROVES THE, THE APPEARANCE OF THE STREET AS WELL.
UM, WE WILL BE ADDING ANOTHER OPTION TO THE FINAL REPORT, WHICH, UH, PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR BIKE LANES ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE ROAD.
ON THE WEST SIDE, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PICTURE THAT YOU HAVE SOME UTILITY LINES, YOU DO NOT HAVE THOSE ON THE, UH, EAST SIDE OF THE ROAD.
SO, UH, YOU MIGHT NEED TO REDUCE THE PLANNING STRIP FROM THE 20 FOOT THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED THERE, DOWN TO 15 FEET, UH, FOR A FIVE FOOT BIKE LANE AS WELL.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION OPPORTUNITY, AND ANOTHER OPTION FOR SOUTH CAR.
SO HERE IS AN IMAGE OF, SEE DOWN HERE, THIS IS THE KIND OF THE FOUR IMAGE ALONG SOUTH PARK.
UM, THERE, THERE'S THE M AND T, UH, DRIVE-THROUGH RIGHT THERE.
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THIS WOULD IN IMPROVE THE, OBVIOUSLY THE APPEARANCE OF THE, THE AREA.YOU WOULD HAVE, UH, TWO STORY BUILDINGS FACING SOUTH PARK AVENUE, UH, ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING.
UM, THE ROAD WOULD BE A LITTLE NARROWER, AND OF COURSE YOU'D HAVE SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES OF, OF THE ROAD TO INCREASE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS.
UH, THIS DOES NOT SHOW THE OPTION OF HAVING, UH, BICYCLE LANES, BUT THERE IS, I THINK, A BICYCLIST ON THIS PICTURE.
UH, SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE WOULD BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR BICYCLES AS WELL.
UM, AGAIN, TALKING TO THE DEVELOPERS, MAYBE YOU DON'T HAVE AS DENSE OF A, OF A DEVELOPMENT PATTERN, UH, TO HAVE SOME VISIBILITY OF SOME OF THOSE BUILDINGS IN THE REAR.
UH, BUT THIS IS A VISION FOR THE FUTURE AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO CODIFY WITHIN YOUR ZONING DOCUMENT, UH, TO ALLOW THIS, UM, AND ALSO ALLOW SOME OTHER POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, UH, TO ACCOMMODATE SOME OF THE DEVELOPED, UH, CONCERNS.
NEXT AREA IS CAMP ROAD SOUTH IN LAKE STREET.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS BOTH IN THE TOWN AND THE VILLAGE.
UM, AND THIS IS AGAIN, GOING FROM DEACON DOWN TO CHURCH STREET IN THE VILLAGE AND WHAT DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO SOME OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS HERE.
UH, BUT THE IDEA HERE IS, IS THIS IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST PARCELS WITHIN THE TOWN IN THE VILLAGE OF AMBER THAT IS REALLY UNDERUTILIZED, UM, AT A GREAT LOCATION.
AND SO THE OPPORTUNITY HERE IS TO CHANGE THE TYPES OF USES IN THIS AREA FROM MANUFACTURING AREA TO A COMMERCIAL OR A MIXED USE AREA.
AND BECAUSE IT'S SO BIG, YOU CAN DO A LOT OF THINGS IN THIS AREA.
AND WE PROPOSED IN THE PLAN TO HAVE A TOWN SQUARE DEVELOPMENT, UH, PROPOSED FOR THIS AREA.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE TOWN SQUARES IN THE CENTER OF THE PLAN THERE IN THE GREEN, UH, ARE SURROUNDED BY TOWNHOUSES AND RESIDENTIAL, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THE ROAD JUST TO THE, UM, EAST HERE WOULD BE, UH, ESSENTIALLY KIND OF A, A MAIN STREET, UH, WITH THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT ALONG THERE WITH UH, TWO STORY BUILDINGS, UH, COMMERCIAL BELOW AND HOUSING ABOVE.
UM, AND THE REAR THERE IS ON THE BORDERS THERE.
THOSE, UH, LARGER BUILDINGS, UH, COULD BE EITHER LIGHT INDUSTRIAL OR OFFICE SPACES, UH, BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE ACCESS TO THE RAIL IN THAT AREA, WE WANNA TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
AND THERE ARE ALSO GOOD TRANS TRANSITIONAL USES BETWEEN SOME OF THOSE RESIDENTIAL USES AND THE INDUSTRIAL USES JUST TO THE WEST.
UM, SO THAT WAS FOR THE CEMENT PROPERTY.
IF YOU GO TO THE NORTH, UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT IS CURRENTLY THE JUNK YARD.
AND THE PROPOSAL THERE IS TO TURN THAT INTO, UH, AN OFFICE PARK, UH, FOR, YOU KNOW, SOME SMALL BUILDINGS THERE, AS WELL AS SOME ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE REAR.
UM, THOSE TWO THINGS WOULD BE CONNECTED BY A ROUNDABOUT AT EL VIEW AND, UM, CAMP, CAMP ROAD, UH, TO PROVIDE, UH, A MUCH SAFER, UM, TRAFFIC PATTERN IN THAT AREA AS WELL AS MUCH SAFER CROSSING AREA.
AND THEN TO THE SOUTH, WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING, UH, PROBABLY MORE IMPORTANTLY, UH, ROUNDABOUT AT LEGION AND CAMP ROAD, UH, WHICH IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY THERE 'CAUSE YOU HAVE A LOT OF REAL ESTATE IN THAT AREA.
UM, AND CERTAINLY SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC, UH, INTERSECTION PROBLEMS THERE CURRENTLY.
UM, AND WHAT'S NOT, WHAT YOU CAN'T SEE AND WILL SHOW IN THE NEXT PICTURE IS, UH, ANOTHER ROAD DIET, UM, IN THIS AREA AS WELL.
SO CURRENTLY, UH, CAMP ROAD SOUTH AND LAKE STREET.
SO THIS IS JUST SOUTH OF LEGION.
IF YOU CAN SEE, LEGION IS JUST TO THE NORTH HERE IN THIS PICTURE HERE LATER ON HERE.
AND CURRENTLY SOUTH OF LEGION.
THERE IT IS A FOUR LANE ROADWAY AND IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE A FOUR LANE ROADWAY IN THAT SECTION BASED ON THE TRAFFIC COUNTS.
AND SO THE PROPOSAL, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE EXISTING, WE HAVE THE FOUR LANES OF TRAFFIC.
UM, WE WOULD BE REDUCING THAT TO TWO LANES OF TRAFFIC, ATTORNEY LANE AND THE, UM, REAL ESTATE THAT SHOULD GAIN BY REDUCING IT FROM TWO, FROM FOUR LANES DOWN TO THREE LANES.
UH, YOU CAN USE TO INCREASE THE PLANTING STRIPS IN THAT AREA.
SO AGAIN, THAT WILL MAKE IT THE AREA FILL A LOT NARROWER AND, UM, VIA ROAD DIET AND I BEING NARROWER, YOU COULD POTENTIALLY SLOW DOWN THE TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA AS WELL.
FORTUNATELY, RIGHT NOW THERE ARE SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD, SO THERE'S NO CHANGES THERE.
AND AGAIN, WITH THIS ONE, WE ALSO PROVIDE, PROVIDE AN OPTION FOR BIKE LANES ON ONE SIDE OF THE ROADWAY AS WELL.
SO NORTH OF LEGION IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
THE TRAFFIC COUNTS ARE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN SOUTH OF LEGION.
UM, SO WE DIDN'T PROPOSE ANY MAJOR CHANGES IN TERMS OF THE TRAFFIC LANES.
WE PROPOSING FOUR LANES AFTER THE, THE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, BUT THE DIFFERENCE IS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NARROWING THE LANES DOWN,
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UH, BECAUSE SOME OF THE LANES ON THE OUTSIDE ARE 14 FEET.UM, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU HAVE A CURVED ROAD ROADWAY, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY NEED THAT BIT OF A A LANE.
SO WE'RE REDUCING THOSE DOWN TO 11 FEET AGAIN BY THE, THE AREA THAT YOU GAIN CAN BE USED TO INCREASE THE PLANTING STRIP AT LEAST ON ONE SIDE OF THE ROADWAY.
UM, SO THAT'S MORE PROTECTED FOR SOME OF THE PEDESTRIANS THAT ARE WALKING DOWN ON THAT STREET AS WELL.
SO HERE IS AN IMAGE OF WHAT THAT TOWN SQUARE IN THE CENTER OF THE TOWN SQUARE, UH, DEVELOPMENT WOULD LOOK LIKE, UH, SURROUNDED BY THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SLIDE.
UH, AND IT'S GO, THE VISION GOES TOWARDS, UH, THE CENTER OF THE VILLAGE NEAR THE MAIN STREET WHERE THERE'D BE A SIGNIFICANT POTENTIALLY GOVERNMENT BUILDING.
UH, AND ALSO, UM, HAVING THOSE, UH, MIXED USE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, UM, PROPERTIES, UM, ALONG THERE AS WELL.
AND THEN HERE'S THE ROUNDABOUT AT LEGION CAMP, UM, WHICH WOULD AGAIN IMPROVE TRAFFIC, CIRCULATION, SAFETY IN THE AREA AS WELL, AS WELL AS BETWEEN THE APPEARANCE OF THAT INTERSECTION.
AND THEN FINALLY WE HAVE THE CAMP ROAD NORTH DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS THE AREA AGAIN, WHERE THE INTERSECTION OF ROUTE 90 AND CAMP ROAD ARE.
AND, UH, WE REALLY FOCUSED ON A COUPLE THINGS, BUT THE ONE AREA IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT WE FOCUSED ON WAS A 16 ACRE PARCEL THAT, UM, IS A SURPLUS PROPERTY FROM THE NEW YORK STATE THROUGHWAY AFTER THEY CONSOLIDATED THE, UH, INGRESS AND EGRESS, UM, EXITS FOR THE THROUGHWAY.
UM, SO IT'S 16 ACRES THAT'S LEFT OVER.
UH, WHEN WE MET WITH THE PUBLIC AND WE ALSO MET WITH THE COMMITTEE, THEY THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME KIND OF REGIONAL USE THAT COULD BENEFIT THE AREA.
UM, SOME THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP AS WERE SOMETHING LIKE A-Y-M-C-A OR FITNESS CENTER, ALSO SOME KIND OF MEDICAL FACILITY.
UH, AND SO WE PUT, PUT A PROPOSAL TOGETHER TO, UM, LOOK AT MAYBE HAVING A REGIONAL HEALTH AND FITNESS FACILITY, WHICH IS A TREND THAT'S HAPPENING THROUGHOUT WEST NEW YORK.
UM, THE AREA WAS ABOUT 16 ACRES, WHICH IS ABOUT SIMILAR TO A SIMILAR DEVELOPMENT IN, IN, IN THE ROCHESTER AREA WHERE THEY ARE DEVELOPING A-Y-M-C-A WITH ROCHESTER REGIONAL HEALTH.
AND THAT, UH, SITE IS, IS, IS EXACTLY, EXCUSE ME, THE RIGHT SIZE FOR THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.
UM, SO WE PROPOSED THAT AT THAT INTERSECTION.
WE ALSO PROPOSED, UH, DOING SOME TRAFFIC COMING JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THAT.
UM, SO THAT WOULD BE SOME ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING ON THE SIDES OF THE ROAD AS WELL AS DOING LANDSCAPE MEETING, UM, THROUGH THE MIDDLE.
UM, 'CAUSE THOSE, AGAIN, THOSE ROADWAY, UH, LANE WIDTHS ARE PRETTY WIDE.
SO CAMP ROAD NORTH, THIS AGAIN IS BETWEEN THROUGHWAY, UM, AND, UH, GETTING TOWARDS SUNSET DRIVE.
UH, YOU CURRENTLY HAVE FOUR LANES.
UM, YOU HAVE TWO 12, UH, FOOT LANES, UM, AND, UH, 12 FOOT TURNING LANE AS WELL AS 15 FOOT LANES ON THE OUTSIDE, WHICH ARE REALLY EXCESSIVE FOR WHAT IS NEEDED IN THAT AREA.
HOWEVER, THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES ARE PRETTY HIGH.
SO WE DIDN'T, UM, PROPOSE REDUCING THE NUMBER OF TRAFFIC LANES WE'LL HAVE.
YOU WOULD HAVE TWO TRAFFIC LANES, UH, ON EACH SIDE, AND YOU WOULD ALSO HAVE A LANDSCAPE MEDIAN IN THE MIDDLE, UH, FOR THE SECTION BETWEEN THE THREE-WAY AND SUNSET.
AFTER THAT, YOU MIGHT NEED TO CONTINUE TO KEEP THE TURNING LANE BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF ENTRANCES AND EXITS.
THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO DO IT IN THAT SECTION.
SO THAT WOULD AGAIN, NARROW THE ROADWAYS.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THE, THE LANDSCAPE MEDIAN WOULD ALSO CALM TRAFFIC AS WELL.
UH, FORTUNATELY AGAIN, YOU ALSO HAVE SIDEWALKS ARE ALREADY THERE, SO WE WOULD INCORPORATE THEM INTO THE PLANT.
SO HERE IS, UH, A KIND OF AN AERIAL OF WHAT THAT, YOU KNOW, REGIONAL HEALTH CENTER COULD LOOK LIKE.
UM, AGAIN, IT FITS PERFECTLY WITH IT WITH, ON THE, ON THE PARCEL, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THE PARKING, YOU'D HAVE SOME, A TRAIL SYSTEM CONNECTED TO THAT AS WELL.
UM, AND ALSO YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING THAT WOULD BE BE PROPOSED ON CAMP ROAD ON THAT PROPERTY AND IN SOME OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
AND YOU CAN SEE ALSO DOWN THERE THE LANDSCAPE MEETING, UM, STARTING FROM THE ENTRANCE EXIT AREA FROM THE THROUGHWAY ALL THE WAY SOUTH TO SUNSET BOULEVARD.
AND THERE'S KIND OF A CLOSEUP THAT SHOWS, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY JUST, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF, BUT ALSO HAVING, UM, IMPROVED, UM, STREETSCAPE WITH, UH, DECORATIVE LIGHTING, UH, REDUCING OR GETTING RID OF SOME OF THOSE SIGNAL LIGHTS THAT HAVE THE, THE WIRES ON 'EM AND GET GETTING THE BORROWER.
UH, SO THEY'RE MORE ATTRACTIVE.
SO IF ANYONE HAD THESE QUESTIONS WHILE I'M TALKING, FEEL FREE TO ASK THEM
SO OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS RELATED TO THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS? UH, FIRST OF ALL, TO REVISE THE C
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TWO GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING.SO CURRENTLY IF YOU WANT TO PUT A WAREHOUSE OR A MANUFACTURING FACILITY IN THE COMMERCIAL ZONING, THEY ARE ALLOWED AS A PERMITTED USE.
UM, AND SO THESE AREAS, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, 50 YEARS AGO THEY, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN ACCEPTABLE, BUT NOW WITH THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENING AROUND IT, IT'S PROBABLY NOT AS ACCEPTABLE.
SO REMOVE THAT AS A PERMITTED USE.
AND ALSO TO PERMIT HOUSING AS SPECIALS TO ALLOW SOME OF THAT MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT TO OCCUR.
UH, UPDATE THE INDUSTRIAL ZONES.
UM, SO ADDING LIMITS FOR LOCK COVERAGE AND HEIGHT LIMITS.
SO CURRENTLY IN YOUR INDUSTRIAL ZONES, YOU CAN GO RIGHT UP TO THE PROPERTY LINE AND PUT YOUR BUILDING AND, AND THERE'S NO, UM, LIMIT ON THE, THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDINGS.
SO IT CAN BE A HUNDRED FEET IF YOU WANT IT TO BE.
SO IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED LOTS OF MANUFACTURING.
WE STILL DO WANT MANUFACTURING, BUT NOW THOSE AREAS THAT ARE, UH, ZONED INDUSTRIAL ARE NEXT TO SOME EITHER EXISTING OR EMERGING RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
SO MIGHT, YOU MIGHT WANT TO BE AT A STAGE WHERE YOU ADD SITE PLAN REVIEW FOR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY REZONING THE CEMENT PROPERTY AND THE MOOSE PROPERTY JUST TO THE SOUTH, WHICH I BELIEVE IS IN THE VILLAGE, UH, FROM MANUFACTURING, UH, TO A, TO A DIFFERENT USE, MAYBE COMMERCIAL USE OR MIXED USE OR RESIDENTIAL USE.
UM, BECAUSE AGAIN, THE CEMENT PROPERTY PROBABLY ISN'T COMPATIBLE WITH SOME OF THE, UM, AREAS, UH, THAT ARE AROUND IT.
AND THEN FINALLY, UM, ADD SOME DESIGN GUIDELINES FOR THE TOWN.
UH, THE VILLAGE ALREADY HAS DESIGN GUIDELINES, UM, AND THEY COULD BE POTENTIALLY UPDATED, BUT ADD DESIGN GUIDELINES.
SO THE REVIEW THE PROJECTS DURING THE SITE PLAN, REVIEW PROCESS AND HAVE SOME DESIGN GUIDELINES TO BASE THOSE REVIEWS ON THAT.
IS IT, SO ANY QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS? PROPOSALS? AND WHEN YOU MENTIONED THE, UH, THE FIVE FOOT BIKE LANES, UH, THE POSSIBILITY YEP.
IS THAT, IS THAT TWO-WAY OR WOULD THAT JUST BE A ONE-WAY LANE? I THINK IT WOULD HAVE TO BE JUST ON ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD ON PARK A ON SOUTH PARK.
UH, BECAUSE ON THE OTHER SIDE YOU HAVE THE, UM, UTILITY LINES, RIGHT? BUT WITHIN THAT FIVE FEET, IS THAT LIKE A TWO-WAY CYCLE TRACK? OR IS IT OH, FIVE FEET WOULD ONLY ACCOMMODATE ONE.
SO IF YOU WANTED TWO LANES, IT'D BE 10 FEET WE'D BE SHIPPING INTO THAT, UM, THE PLANTING STRIP AND THERE'D BE LESS GREEN SPACE.
COULD YOU ALLOW END POINT JUST THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS, THE RED AREAS ON THE SIDE OF THE VILLAGE STREETS, WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM FOR A OFFICIAL BIKE LANE, RIGHT? SO WE CALL THEM SAFETY LICENSE.
PERHAPS YOU COULD ACCOMMODATE TWO WAY, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING, A TWO WAY BIKE TRAFFIC, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND IT'S STILL THE WORK PEOPLE JUST ALL MAKE ALLOWANCES FOR EACH OTHER, MAKE IT WORK EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, JUST
WE CAN BOTH OPTIONS IN THE PIPE, BUT YEAH.
WELL I THINK WHAT, WHAT THE LAURA WAS MENTIONING, BECAUSE THOSE ARE MAYBE TWO FEET, THEY'RE FOUR FEET.
WE DIDN'T ENOUGH ROOM FOR SIX, WHICH WOULD BE, THEN WE CALL THEM BIKE LANES, BUT WE, WE T GOTCHA.
SO WE CALL THEM SAFETY LANES, WHICH STILL ALLOWS FOR LIKE PEOPLE TO OPEN THEIR CAR DOOR.
A LITTLE BIT OF A BUFFER THERE.
SO, BUT I MEAN, YOU'RE A AVID BIKER.
DO YOU THINK A FIVE WOULD WORK FOR BOTH PEOPLE JUST DOING THEIR THING, GOING BOTH DIRECTIONS, YOU KNOW? WELL, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, I THOUGHT THE LENGTHS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WERE TWO FEET, BUT THEY'RE FLOOR.
SO I HAVE A, I A WIDTH PERCEPTION,
UM, SO I, I MEAN, GIVEN THAT I THINK, I MEAN FIVE TO HALF, TWO WAY TRAFFIC ON FIVE FOOT, THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE TIGHT.
FIVE SIX FOOT WOULD BE IDEAL FOR A ONE WAY.
BUT, SO IT COULD BE DONE, WE WOULD JUST BRING THE PLANTING STRIP DOWN A LITTLE BIT, POTENTIALLY PUT A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PLANTINGS IN THERE SO IT COULD BE ACCOMMODATED, RIGHT? BECAUSE I THINK IT, I SHOWED WE HAD SOMETHING LIKE A 20 FOOT, UM, PLANTING STRIP, SO YOU HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH ROOM TO STEAL SOME OF THAT IN THAT AREA.
SO WHAT ARE THE LANE WIDTHS THAT YOU'VE DESIGNED? 12 OR 10 OR? YEAH, WELL, IN SOUTH PARK THEY WERE ALREADY, WERE PRETTY MUCH AT THE MINIMUM, UH, WHERE THE PIPE ROAD WAY THEY HAVE.
SO THEY'RE, UH, ABOUT 11 FEET FOR A SUBURBAN AREA AND TRAFFIC HUNTS.
UM, BUT YOU DO HAVE A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT, IN A RIGHT OF WAY BETWEEN, UM, THIS AND THIS AREA OVER HERE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE ROAD, ABOUT 20 FEET.
SO THERE'S POTENTIALLY SOME AREAS FOR BIKE LANES THERE, WHICH WE WILL PUT IN THE FINAL PLAN.
IS DO YOU HAVE ANY OPINION OR GAIN POINTS IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AS FAR AS THE EFFECTIVENESS OF,
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OF TRAFFIC CALMING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BIKE LANES AND STREET TREES? WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.SO WITH BIKE LANES, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT MORE PAVEMENT.
IT'S GONNA STILL LOOK LIKE A ROADWAY.
WHEREAS, UM, WITH SOME OF THE LANDSCAPING, IT'S GONNA LOOK NARROWER AND IT'S GONNA FEEL A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORTABLE TO GO DOWN.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE BIKE LANES, PEOPLE WILL UNDERSTAND THAT THEIR BIKE LANES AND THAT THEY HAVE THE SAME, ALMOST THE SAME IMPACT AS HAVING SOME OF THE LANDSCAPING.
UM, SO THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, IT PROBABLY DEPEND ON THE USE IF THERE'S A LOT OF BICYCLES ON THAT'LL COME TRAFFIC, RIGHT? THE TREES WILL ALWAYS BE THERE, RIGHT? YEAH.
UM, BUT THIS, YOU KNOW, RIGHT IN FRONT OF TOWN HALL YOU HAVE JUST PARKING THERE, SO THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY JUST TO PUT BOTH OF THOSE THINGS IN THERE AT THE SAME TIME.
SO ANDY, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT LIKE THE NIAGARA STREET DESIGN OR THE BIKE LANE IS KIND OF EVEN HUGGING THE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALMOST GREEN BETWEEN, THERE'S A SIDE STREET, SOME GREEN, THEN A BIKE LANE.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS AS YOU USE THAT SORT OF YEAH, I LOVE IT UP THERE.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THE CADILLAC BIKE LANE COMPLETELY PROTECTED.
YOU HAVE THE, YOU HAVE THE, THE LANDSCAPING THERE.
UM, AND THEY ALSO HAVE, HAVE THE SIDEWALK.
I MEAN, I THINK GIVEN LIKE MY PRIORITY AND THAT PART ESPECIALLY IS, IS THIS SIDEWALK, YOU KNOW, SO ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, OUR YOUNGER FAMILIES AND OUR OLDER RESIDENTS CAN, CAN WALK TO THE, THE SHOPPING CENTERS.
UM, I MEAN WE, WE WOULD DEFINITELY NEED SOME, SOME MORE ROOM TO, TO IMPLEMENT WHAT THEY HAVE UP ON ON THE ANCHOR STREET.
BUT THERE'S 20, SO THERE'S 20 FEET ON EACH SIDE, HUH? APPROXIMATELY.
IT'D BE INTERESTING TO LAND THE METRICS AND TO SEE WHAT IT VISUAL, WHO KNOWS.
AND THE 20 FEET ON THE WEST SIDE ALSO, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE IN THE IMAGE THERE, IT HAS THE UTILITY.
SO THAT'S, THAT DOES SPURGE, THE WHITELANDS ON THAT SIDE? YEAH, I, I THINK ESPECIALLY RIGHT HERE IN SOUTH PARK AVENUE, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF POTENTIAL ALL ALONG SOUTH PARK.
AND I'M TALKING BEYOND HAMBURG.
THERE'S SOME UP AND, UH, WAWA, YOU HAVE SOME, SOME BIKE LANES AT LEAST, UH, IDENTIFY.
UM, AND I THINK THIS COULD BE A GREAT BIKE CORRIDOR GOING UP TOWARDS THE CITY.
SO WE'LL DEFINITELY PUT THAT IN THE FINAL PLAN TO CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DOT.
YET WE TRIED THIS IN THE PAST AND REAL KEEN ABOUT CHANGING SOUTH PARK OR CAMP ROAD.
UM, HAD YOU HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM? NO, NOT, NOT REALLY.
NOT DETAILED CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM.
UM, HAVING SAID THAT, HAVE OTHER ROADWAYS IN WESTERN NEW YORK AND UPSTATE YORK CHANGED THAT AS A COLLEGE MEMBER CHANGED THAT.
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FACT, WE WANNA TAKE THIS IDEA ALL THE WAY UP TO
TO HAVE THAT ALL DONE THAT WAY.
I THINK THAT'S, THAT THAT CONTEXT SENSE OF DESIGN AND WORK WITH THE DOT RIGHT AWAY AND JUST SAY, HEY, THIS IS OUR PLAN.
WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH YOU TO GO FOR THE GRANTS NEEDED TO ACCOMPLISH THIS.
YOU KNOW, THEY WERE REDOING SOUTH PART, RIGHT.
THEY WEREN'T TOUCHING BECAUSE OF THE, THROUGH INTERCHANGE, THE WORK OF THE
BUT NOW I THINK THEY NEEDED ABLE TO AT LEAST LOOKING AT THOSE THINGS FROM THAT POINT FORWARD.
THAT'S, THAT WAS THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF DOING POINT TO HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT IT, RIGHT? TALK TO THE PUBLIC.
LOOK AT THE MEASUREMENTS AND GET SUPPORT.
GET SUPPORT AND ALSO GET THE ILLUSTRATION SO WE CAN TOTALLY REJECTED BY EVERYBODY.
NOBODY WANTED THE DOWN THE DOWNSIZING OF ROUTE FIVE.
EVERYBODY THINKS IT'S A, IT'S A COMMUTER, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER.
SO, BUT ANYWAY, IT, IT'S, IT'S THAT THE ONLY OTHER ONE IS ON CAMP ROAD AT THE INTERCHANGE THERE, FIRST REACTION FROM THE FREEWAY IS THEY DO NOT WANT AN ENTRANCE ACROSS FROM THEIR ENTRANCE ON THE, SO WE'D HAVE TO PUT THE ENTRANCE SOMEWHERE.
AND THAT WAS RIGHT ALL THE WAY DOWN THE ENTRANCE.
AND THAT'S SAID YOU HAVE DIFFERENT PROPERTY, BUT ESPECIALLY ALONG SOUTH PARK, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THAT.
AND I'VE SEEN SEVERAL COMMUNITIES THAT ARE ABLE TO DO THAT IN CERTAIN AREAS.
AND IT, IT REALLY, I THINK IS QUITE, NOT ONLY A TRACTOR, BUT SAFETY.
I THINK IT GOES ALONG WITH EVERYTHING WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH IN THAT, IN THAT AREA WHERE YOU CAN CREATE THE BUFFER AND THEN HAVE THE BIKE LANES AND, AND THE SIDEWALKS.
AND THAT'S AN IDEAL SPOT TO INTRODUCE THAT IN A TOWN.
INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, LIKE YOU ALREADY KNOW, THIS IS THE VILLAGE'S FIRST ALTERNATIVE.
WHEN WE REDESIGNED THE ROADWAY, WE HAD A MEETING BETWEEN, UM, PROSPECT AND LEGION ALONG THE STREET, AND, UM, SO WE COULDN'T GET THAT.
THERE WAS NO PUBLIC SUPPORT AND BUSINESS OWNERS WERE BRAVE THAT IT WOULD PROHIBIT TURNING INTO THEIR BUSINESSES.
SO, UM, WE HAD TO GIVE THAT UP TO GET THE
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REST OF THE PLAN.SO I THINK THAT'S, YEAH, WE DIDN'T PROPOSE A LAND CENTER MEDIAN IN THIS SECTION 'CAUSE OF ALL THE TRAIL LANES GOING IN AND OUT, BUT, YOU KNOW, NORTH OF THE DEVELOPMENT AREA GOING TOWARDS SILVER CO COLLEGE, MAYBE THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES THERE FOR MM-HMM.
POTENTIAL MEDIA, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE BETWEEN THE TOM PLAN AND THE GATEWAY PLAN.
TOP PLAN DOESN'T SUGGEST CHANGING THE C TO ZONING, BUT CREATING THAT WHOLE NEW ZONING DISTRICT THAT WE'RE ACCOMMODATING, INCLUDING DESIGN STANDARDS.
THE C TWO ZONING IS JUST, THERE WAS TOO MANY PROPERTIES AND TAKE TOO MANY ITIES IN IT, UH, THE WAREHOUSING AND WAS GONNA BE REMOVED.
BUT MANUFACTURING'S ONLY AS AN ACCESSORY.
YOU CAN HAVE FOUR OR FIVE INDIVIDUALS PUTTING THINGS TOGETHER.
THE COMMERCIAL INDUSTRY WANTED TO BE ABLE TO PUT STUFF TOGETHER.
BUT I THINK WE'RE CREATING A BRAND NEW MIXED USE DISTRICT.
I FACT THAT'S SOME THAT WE CAN APPLY TO THOSE AREAS.
AND THEN ALSO WE'RE CREATING A BRAND NEW COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT THAT WE CAN APPLY TO THESE AREAS LIKE THIS AND ALL AND ENCOURAGE THESE THINGS.
AS YOU FOUND OUT THE SOUTH PARK, WE REALLY HAVE TO DO A LOT OF ENCOURAGEMENT TO THE EXISTING PLAZA OWNERS TO MAKE THEM DO OUT PARCEL.
THEY ALSO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THEIR EXISTING TENANTS AND BLOCKING THEM, AS YOU SAID, AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE STUFF IS PUT IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T INVALIDATE THE RELEASES BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE SEEN FROM THE ROAD.
UM, BUT WE'LL, WE SUPPORT THAT AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THOSE THINGS ARE OCCURRING ON SOUTH PARK AND WE WANT TO GET THIS MOVING ALONG AS QUICKLY SO WE CAN GET THOSE PLANS IN PLACE.
WHEREAS THE PLANNING BOARD APPROVES PLUS STUFF ALONG SOUTH PARK, WE'RE PUTTING IN THESE NEW CONCEPTS AND IDEAS.
WE'RE MAKING A DEVELOPER PUT IN SIDEWALKS NOW EVEN ON, ON SOUTH PARK, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE A FINAL PLAN.
I THINK AT OUR COMMITTEE MEETINGS, MEETINGS ALSO, WE TALKED ABOUT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS REFLECTED IN HERE, THE, UM, SIGNAGE, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME SIGNAGE, NOT ONLY FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, DIRECTION AND, AND POSSIBLY TO SOLVE SOME OF THE ISSUE WITH BUSINESSES THAT MIGHT BE CONCERNED IF THEY'RE HIDDEN, BUT ALSO FROM AN AESTHETIC, UM, AND PRIDE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, YOU KNOW, STANDPOINTS.
AND, AND SO I, I THINK WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT, YOU SAID YOU WERE GONNA INCLUDE THAT ALSO, RIGHT? THE GATEWAY SIGNAGE.
CERTAIN THE GATEWAY ESPECIALLY, ESPECIALLY AT THAT'S A DEFINITE AREA.
POTENTIALLY FROM BETWEEN THE VILLAGE AND, AND THE TOWN AS WELL.
SO THE FINAL REPORT WILL MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S NOTED IN THERE.
MENTION, BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING I DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T NOT MENTION.
SO WAY FINDING A CAMP ROAD, DEFINITELY THE WAY FINDING, RIGHT.
AND SOUTH PARK, THAT'S HOW WE FIRST GOT ON THIS YEARS AGO WHEN THE WALGREENS WAS PUT IN, WHICH IS HALF OF THE VILLAGE AND HALF OF THE TOWN, THE TOWN REGULATIONS WERE, IT HAD TO BE 30 FEET BACK FROM THE ROAD.
AND THE VILLAGE OF REGULATIONS WERE HAD TO BE UP OF THE ROAD.
SO WE BASICALLY FOLLOWED THE VILLAGES OF REGULATIONS AND, AND WAIVED ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE TOWN REGULATIONS.
OTHERWISE YOU WOULD'VE A WALGREENS SET WAY BACK FROM THE ROAD AND ALL THE PARKING AT THE PARK.
BUT, BUT I DO HOPE THAT WITH YOUR NEW ZONING, THAT YOU CAN ALLOW FOR BUILDINGS TO BE UP AGAINST THE STREET AS WELL.
IF DEVELOPERS DON'T WANNA DO IT, THAT'S FINE, BUT IF FUTURE DEVELOPERS DO WANNA DO IT, I HOPE THAT ALLOWS THAT.
RIGHT? AND, AND WE'VE HAD THOSE IN THE CODE OFF AND ON, BUT THEY'VE BEEN PULLED OUT AND BY DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATIONS, WHATEVER DIFFERENT FOCUSES.
I THINK IF WE GET THE FOCUS IN ONE AREA STARTED, IT'S GOING GOES FORWARD.
WE HAD ON SOME OF OUR MAJOR HIGHWAYS, THE, THE CLOSE ROUTE TO MAKE SETBACKS EVEN FURTHER FROM THE ROAD.
AND I'M LIKE, WELL NOW YOU'RE JUST HAVING, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE, IT USED TO BE ON SOUTHWEST, IT WAS 75 FEET PACKED FROM THE ROAD.
LIKE NO, WE NEED TO PULL CLOSER TO THE, BUT THIS WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA TO DO THE INFILL ON, ON THE TWO PLAZAS THERE.
AND AS YOU GO UP, OBVIOUSLY IT'S FAIRGROUNDS PROPERTY.
THE FAIRGROUNDS WANTED TO PUT MAYBE HOTELS OR OTHER THINGS EVENTUALLY
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE IN THAT PROCESS, WHICH I THINK IS GOOD.
I THINK YOU NEED TO DO IT SOONER THAN LATER.
UM, SO OTHER THING WE SEE ON THE LANDS BEHIND, ON THE, ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD, THE LANDS BEHIND THAT PLAZA ARE ALL WETLANDS ZONE RA, THEY'RE ALL WETLANDS, RIGHT? YOU COULD CREATE THAT INTO SOMETHING BACK THERE, WHATEVER.
IT'D BE A GREAT FEATURE IF YOU COULD WEAVE SOMETHING IN WHERE YOU PUT THE TRAILS IN TO CONNECT TO THAT WALKIN TRAILS WOULD BE GREAT THERE.
GENERALLY SPEAKING, OUR, OUR GEOGRAPHY DID INCLUDE THAT WE TRIED TO FOCUS ON THE CORRIDOR, RIGHT? SO, YEAH.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A GENERAL ONE OFFICE, UM, LEANNE, UM, YOU KNOW,
UM, ASKED ME ABOUT THE INTEGRATION, WHAT MY THOUGHTS BETWEEN GATEWAY AND THEN I, I ACTUALLY JUST SENT HER THE DRAFT IN THIS REPORT.
DO YOU KNOW THAT? IS THAT, AND WE ARE ALLOWED TO INCORPORATE SOME OF THESE INTO THE COMPLAINT OR JUST THE APPEND? WE CAN, YOU AUTHORIZE, WE CAN DO THAT TIME, RIGHT? YES.
BECAUSE YOU, THE DOCTOR, I MEAN, IT WOULD BE A VERY BIG LOST OPPORTUNITY.
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HAVE THEM BE HARMONIZED.THAT WAS THE WHOLE, AND THAT WAS REALLY THE WHOLE POINT OF, OF, OF ADVANCING THESE INITIATIVES SOMEWHAT IN, IN TANDEM.
AND THAT BECAME APPARENT AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, PREPARATIONS OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS THAT THERE WERE THESE OTHER PIECES, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT BE THE MIXED USE THAT WERE PUTTING IN PLACE OR, OR THIS PARTICULAR, THE GATEWAY WAS, WAS ONE THAT WAS OF PARTICULAR INTEREST FOR THAT VERY REASON.
I MEAN, THIS IS THE TIME, TIME TO DO THAT, UM, AND INCORPORATE ANY CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE PLACED INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SO IT CAN FACILITATE, YOU KNOW, YOUR IDEAS BEING PUT IN PLACE ALSO.
AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER THING IS THIS REALLY DOES POSITION YOU FOR FUTURE FUNDING.
THERE'S A LOT OF FUNDING COMING UP, RIGHT.
FOR TRAFFIC COMING AND TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS AND BICYCLE IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, 'CAUSE THE BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE LAW AND SOME OF THE EXISTING STATE PROGRAMS PROVIDE LOTS OF FUNDING FOR THIS TYPE, THESE TYPE OF IMPROVEMENTS.
SO, UM, NOW YOU HAVE THE IMAGES, YOU HAVE THE DRAWINGS, YOU HAVE THE PUBLIC INPUT ALREADY, SO YOU'RE ALREADY PRETTY MUCH TEE YOURSELF UP THOSE TYPE OF FUNDING PLUS THE COORDINATION BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE VILLAGE IS STILL PUSHING FOR TRAFFIC HUNTING, ROAD DESIGN ON LAKE STREET.
LIKE WE REPORT WITH GUN CALL AGAIN AS WE ALWAYS ARE.
BUT I THINK JUST THE, IN OUR MUNICIPAL OPERATION, WE'LL SCORE BETTER ON RIGHT.
SO I'VE HAD, I'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH FOLKS OVER THE PAST YEAR OR SO ABOUT TRAFFIC COMING AND, AND IT'S GREAT TO SEE MORE MUNICIPALITIES TALKING ABOUT TRAFFIC COMING IN IN THE REGION.
UM, WHEN I TALK TO JUST OUR, OUR MANY OF OUR, OUR RESIDENTS WHO MAY NOT BE PAYING AS CLOSE ATTENTION, WHEN, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ROAD DIETS, IT, IT KIND OF SETS OFF SOME ALARM BELLS THAT IT'S GOING TO CAUSE TRAFFIC CONGESTION AND, AND BACKUPS.
WHAT WOULD BE YOUR RESPONSE TO TO THAT? WELL, IT'S BEEN TESTED IN MANY COMMUNITIES.
UM, AND IT HASN'T REALLY CHANGED THE CONGESTION PATTERNS.
IT MAY SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC, WHICH IS A GOOD THING.
UM, ESPECIALLY FOR ALL THOSE KIDS THAT ARE CROSSING SOUTH PARK AND CROSSING CAMP ROAD.
SLOWING DOWN TRAFFIC IS SOME, IS AN OBJECTIVE YOU WANT.
UM, I THINK THE PROOF IS JUST THE SOUTH IN THE VILLAGE.
THE TRAFFIC CIRCULATION IS MUCH BETTER, THE SAFETY IS MUCH BETTER.
UM, AND SO I GUESS WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT THROUGHOUT THE REGION AND IT HAS BEEN IMPROVED.
AND YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TALK TO DOT, I'M SURE THEY WILL, YOU KNOW, PROVE THAT, OR NOT PROVE THAT THEY WILL AGREE THAT, THAT, THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THEY NEED TO LOOK AT ANYWAY AS PART OF THEIR PLANS.
AND THESE ARE BOTH STATE ROADS.
SO, UM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT JUST BAD.
IT'S SOMETHING THEY HAVE TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT NOWADAYS IN TERMS OF ROAD IMPROVEMENT.
SO ACTUALLY WE FOUND IN OUR DATA THAT UM, IT DOES SLOW THE TRACK DOWN.
IT'S, BUT IT'S CONTINUOUS AND SO REALLY THERE'S NO TIME LOST.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, NOW IT'S, IF YOU JUST GOOGLE ALL THE STATS FOR ROUNDABOUTS, SO WE'LL GIVE YOU, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT DATA YOU'LL NEED TO PRESENT, SUPPORT YOUR POSITION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? SO WHEN YOU HAVE THE FINAL PLAN, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL SEND IT OUT TO THE COMMITTEE AND THEN WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THAT GETS INCORPORATED.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE FINAL PLAN WITH EVERYTHING THAT GETS PUT INTO THE CON PLAN.
GLAD YOU'RE DOING AT THE SAME TIME.
WOULD YOU DO IT AS AN ATTACHMENT? I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE, AN ATTACHMENT IN THE COMP PLAN.
YOU DO AN ATTACHMENT OR AN ATTACHMENT.
AND ANYTIME YOU ADOPT A PLAN IN THE NEAR FUTURE, YOU CAN ADOPT IT AS AN APPENDIX OR ATTACHMENT TO YOUR CONFLICT.
JUST MAKE SURE THERE'S NO CONFLICT.
THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO CONFLICT.
I CAN'T HAVE A PLAN THAT'S ATTACHED TO THAT CONFLICTS WITH THE PLAN.
SO YOU WOULD JUST DO IT AS A STANDALONE DOCUMENT, AS AN ATTACHMENT INCORPORATE AS PART OF YOUR CONFERENCE PLAN IN ESCAPE WASTE STUDY.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'D ALREADY GOTTEN THE DRAFT TO DREW.
SO WE'D ALREADY MADE SOME OF THOSE CHANGES AS WE WERE GOING ALONG.
AND WE KNEW THAT WE WERE, UM, HEADING TO A FINAL DOCUMENT FOR THIS.
WE ACTUALLY, AS A PRECURSOR STARTED TO INCORPORATE THOSE, THOSE PIECES.
AND YOU NEED TO DO THE OTHER END OF SOUTH PARK AT THE VILLAGE.
WE HAVE ONE COMMENT FROM FACEBOOK.
UH, WE HAD SOMEONE ASK, CARS AND VEHICLES ARE LARGER.
HAS THIS BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION IN YOUR PLAN? YES.
SO THE, THE MINIMUM LINGUISTS ARE BASED ON DOT STANDARDS, UM, FOR THE TYPE OF ROADWAY AND VOLUME OF, OF TRAFFIC.
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QUESTIONS? JUST GOT ANOTHER ONE.THE QUESTION IS, HOW ABOUT SENIORS WHO RIDE THEIR CARTS ALONGSIDE TO GET TO TOPS SOUTH PARK AVENUE? VERY FREQUENTLY WE HAVE FOLKS THAT MAY LIVE IN THE LINCOLN SQUARE APARTMENTS THAT ARE ON THEIR, THEIR MOTORIZED SCOOTERS THAT ARE COMING.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN THE, THE SHOULDER, IN THE LANE, UM, GOING DOWN SOUTH PARK AVENUE.
WELL THAT'S WHY YOU WANT THE SIDEWALKS.
AND THE SIDEWALKS ARE FIVE FEET, WHICH ARE MINIMUM OR HANDICAP ACCESSIBILITY, WHICH WOULD ACCOMMODATE SCOOT.
THEY DON'T WANNA SEE THEM IN THE ROAD,
AND ANY ANY ROAD PROJECT COULD DO, YOU'D HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE HANDICAP.
SO, AND MAYBE THIS WAS ALREADY DISCUSSED AS FAR AS THOSE NEW SIDEWALKS, THE MAINTENANCE, WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT S DEPARTMENT WOULD HANDLE AS FAR AS, I'M JUST PICTURING SCOOTERS ARE GOING ON THE WINTER.
UM, SIDEWALKS WOULD BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE, UH, BUSINESS OWNER OR RESIDENCE.
IT'S ACTUALLY WRITTEN THAT WAY IN THOSE LAW AS WELL.
I PROBABLY GOTTA GET GROCERIES, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND, UH, IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM AND WE'LL GET THE FINAL REPORT TO MARK TO GET TO THE FOUNDATION AND THEN WE'LL ALSO SEND IT TO THE COMMITTEE.
AND WE'RE GOING TO STICK WITH, UM, PLANNING.
WE HAVE REPORT FROM MR. RILEY.
THANK, THANK YOU TO OUR FRIENDS FROM THE VILLAGE FOR JOINING US AND FOR YOUR WORK ON THE COMMITTEE AS WELL, LAUREN.
OKAY, THE FIRST IS MY PLANNING REPORT.
I WON'T GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE PLANNING REPORT.
UM, AGAIN, I'LL BRING IT UP AGAIN 'CAUSE WE'VE RUN INTO PROBLEMS IN THE PAST WITH THIS.
WE DO NEED TO TALK TO DAVID HOLMES ABOUT HIS PROPOSAL FOR SOUTH SOUTH SHORE.
IT'S BEEN BEEN AN ACTIVE APPLICATION, QUOTE UNQUOTE FOR THREE, FOUR OR FIVE YEARS NOW.
YOU PROBABLY WANNA SEND THEM A LETTER, SAY LONGER THAN THAT.
WE, WE WANNA SEND 'EM A LETTER SAYING YOUR APPLICATION HAS BEEN BY IN ACTION WITHDRAWN.
ONLY BECAUSE WE'VE RUN INTO PROBLEMS RECENTLY WITH APPLICATIONS THAT SIT AROUND FOR A LONG TIME.
I THINK YOU SHOULD NOTIFY, NOT THAT WE'RE DOING ANYTHING THAT WOULD STOP THIS PROJECT, BUT DOESN'T UNDERSTAND BECAUSE REZONING APPLICATION HAS INVALID AT THIS POINT.
IT'S FIVE YEARS OLD AND THERE'S BEEN NO OR MORE BEEN NO ACTIVITY ON IT.
UM, WHERE DO WE HAVE A MECHANISM IN PLACE RIGHT NOW? OR DON'T WE AND SHOULD WE, LOOKING AT
THERE'S NOTHING IN THE REZONING LAW THAT SAYS THAT, I DON'T KNOW, WE'D HAVE TO RESEARCH CASE LAW FOR SOMETHING THAT PROTECTS SOMEBODY WHEN THEY PUT A REZONING APPLICATION IN.
BUT I WOULD THINK IT'D BE, IT'D BE SIMPLE TO SAY THAT A REZONING APPLICATION EXPIRES IN SIX MONTHS OR A YEAR IF THERE'S NO ACTION ON IT.
INSTEAD OF US HAVING TO SEND LETTERS ALL THE TIME BECAUSE THEY DO GET LOST.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF THESE REZONINGS THAT I DON'T EVEN KNOW THE STATUS OF.
UM, THE OTHER ONE IS THE, THE WEZEL ONE UP BY PARKER ROAD.
THERE'S BEEN NO ACTION ON THAT IN A YEAR NOW.
UM, NOW WE POSITIVE DECK THE PROJECT.
SO MAYBE THEY'RE ASSUMING THAT A POSITIVE DECK STANDS FOREVER, LIKE A, LIKE ANOTHER PROJECT WE HAVE.
BUT IT'S, IT'S KIND OF LIKE THAT ONE, IT'S, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH IT.
UM, SO IS THAT SOMETHING WE WANT TO HAVE, UM, LEGAL MOVE FORWARD AND DO THAT RESEARCH SO WE COULD TAKE THAT NEXT STEP? YEAH, IT'S JUST, YOU'RE GONNA SEE A LOT MORE REZONING APPLICATIONS, THINGS CHANGING IN THE TOWN.
I THINK WE'VE GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT JUST HAVING THESE THINGS FLOAT AROUND FOREVER.
UM, I HAVE A, UH, THE REST OF THE REPORT IS STRAIGHTFORWARD.
YOU HAVE A COUPLE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THEM.
WE HAD A PUBLIC HEARING ON, ON A REZONING APPLICATION BY BURKE FOR RILEY BOULEVARD.
UM, YOU'RE GONNA TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT TONIGHT.
OBVIOUSLY YOU'LL GIVE US DIRECTION.
THE PLANNING BOARD HAS RECOMMENDED THAT, BUT RECOMMENDED THAT THE POLL NORTH SIDE, AND I THINK THEY AMENDED THEIR APPLICATION TO INCLUDE ALL THAT SIDE FROM C TWO TO NC.
THAT WAS THE OLD BURKE BUSINESS PARK.
IT'S SAT NOW FOR 15 PLUS YEARS.
UM, THERE'S A, THERE'S AN APPLICATION TO DO A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THERE.
THE PLANNING BOARD DECISION WAS WHY JUST TAKE THIS LITTLE PIECE, DO THE WHOLE NORTH SIDE AND MAKE IT NC NC
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ALLOWS RESIDENTIAL AND IT ALLOWS COMMERCIAL BUT SMALLER COMMERCIAL USES.I KNOW YEARS AGO WHEN THEY PROPOSED THAT TINSEL TOWN THERE, THE PEOPLE IN THE AREA DID NOT THINK THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA FOR THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS GO IN THAT, IN THAT, THAT BURKE BUSINESS PARK.
I THINK IT'S TIME TO AT LEAST SET THE TREND ON THAT SIDE BEING NEIGHBOR COMMERCIAL.
BUT AGAIN, YOU'LL TAKE PUBLIC INPUT TONIGHT AND YOU'LL DECIDE WHETHER YOU WANNA MAKE SOME, DEFINITELY WANNA PUT SOME CONDITIONS ON THAT REZONING, UH, BECAUSE IT WAS ALSO SUBJECT OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT.
SO THE OTHER ONE IS A VERY SIMPLE REZONING, THE MATTHEWS REZONING, UH, THAT ONE'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
IT'S A SMALL PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT CONFORMING.
AND HE'LL TELL YOU IF HE'S HERE TONIGHT, HE'LL TELL YOU THE HISTORY OF HOW THAT PROPERTY REMAINS THE WAY IT'S ZONED.
NOW, UM, UH, THE ONLY OTHER ITEM THAT I NEED FOR YOU TONIGHT, I DON'T NEED A RESOLUTION, BUT I DO NEED YOU, THE PLANNING BOARD WANTS TO HIRE OUTSIDE CONSULTANTS, SPECIALTY CONSULTANTS FOR THE ASPHALT PROJECT.
I DON'T NEED ANY RESOLUTION FROM THE BOARD TONIGHT.
IF YOU AUTHORIZE THEM, I THINK THE PLANNING BOARD CHAIR AND ONE OF THE PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS WANTS TO GO OUT AND GET PROPOSALS.
OBVIOUSLY YOU WOULD REVIEW THOSE PROPOSALS, THEN YOU WOULD NEED A, A TOWN BOARD ACTION TO, TO UH, HIRE SOMEBODY TO DO THAT.
I THINK THEY WANT A, OBVIOUSLY LIKE WE DID BEFORE, AN AIR QUALITY CONSULTANT.
WE HAVE NO ONE ON STAFF THAT HAD AIR QUALITY EXPERTISE.
AND THE OTHER ONE WAS, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS INTERESTING, UH, THEY WANTED A TRAFFIC CONSULTANT, BUT A TRAFFIC MORE RELATED TO TRUCKS AND STUFF AND ROUTING OF TRUCKS.
IT'S NOT THE ISSUE OF THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC, IT'S THE TYPE OF TRAFFIC AND TRUCK ROUTING, WHATEVER.
SO THEY WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE GET SOME PROPOSALS FOR THAT.
SO AGAIN, UM, I'M LOOKING FOR, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR YOUR JUST ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT THEY'RE GONNA GO OUT AND GET IT.
DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE GONNA TAKE THEM.
YOU'RE GONNA GET SOME PROPOSALS AND YOU HAVE TO DECIDE ON THOSE PROPOSALS.
LAST TIME I THINK IT, THEY RAN UP THEIR BILLS WERE PROBABLY SEVEN, $8,000.
UH, FOR, AND THAT WAS JUST FOR THE SCOPING DOCUMENT.
YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA SPEND MORE ON, UH, ON AN AIR QUALITY CONSULTANT TO TAKE US THROUGH THE ENTIRE, UH, PROCESS.
UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF IT FOR MY PLANNING REPORT.
THERE'S SOME OTHER GENERAL THINGS IN HERE.
I WANTED TO, WHY I HAD YOUR TIME JUST UPDATE YOU ALSO ON THE ASSIGNMENTS THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN US OVER THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS.
AND YOU ALL HAVE COPIES OF THIS MEMO.
I HAVE UPDATED IT BECAUSE ONE OF THE ASSIGNMENTS WAS LOOKING INTO THE CAMP ROAD, UH, INTERCHANGE LOCATION AND MEETING WITH THE CONS, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
WE HAD THAT MEETING I THINK, UM, COUNCIL COUNCILWOMAN FARRELL AND UM, THE SUPERVISOR AND I WERE ON THAT CALL.
AS I MENTIONED IN THE EARLIER MEETING, UM, BENDERSON OWNS THE PROPERTY ALL BEHIND THE THROUGHWAY INTERCHANGE.
I WILL HAND IT OUT TO YOU LATER.
IT'S THE THROUGHWAY PROPERTY THAT'S GONNA BE SOLD.
ALL THE PROPERTY BEHIND THERE IS OWNED BY BENDERSON AND THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF PROPERTY TO THE NORTH OR TO THE RIGHT IF YOU'RE FACING THE PROPERTY THAT'S OWNED BY LIBERATORY MANAGEMENT.
WE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT POTENTIALLY SPECIAL ZONING FOR THAT AREA, LIKE IS RECOMMENDED IN THE GATEWAY, UH, GATEWAY REPORT.
UM, THAT, UH, SYNOPSIS BENDERSON WASN'T INTERESTED IN THE NEW ZONING FOR THEIR PROPERTY.
OBVIOUSLY WE STILL CAN REZONE THE PROPERTY.
IT'S WE, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS WE REZONE THAT BEFORE SOMEONE BUYS IT AND DECIDES WHAT THEY WANNA DO WITH IT.
AND THEN LIBERATORY WASN'T REAL INTERESTED IN IT, BUT THEY WERE INTERESTED IN THE FACT THAT THEY WOULD LOOK AT WHAT OTHER POTENTIAL USES COULD GO ON THEIR PROPERTY.
THEY HAVE A PROBLEM BECAUSE ONE OF THEIR PROPERTIES IS SPLIT ZONE.
NOW HALF IS INDUSTRIAL, HALF IS COMMERCIAL.
SO THEY'RE GONNA NEED US TO FIX THAT PROBLEM ANYWAY IF THEY EVER WANNA SELL THAT PROPERTY IN THE FUTURE WITH TWO ZONINGS ON THE PROPERTY.
UH, THE OTHER ONES ARE ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT, WHICH IS THE MIXED USE ZONING DISTRICT.
WE WANT TO TAKE IT CREATE A NEW MIXED USE ZONING DISTRICT.
UM, I'M ASKING YOU TO JUST CALL PUBLIC HEARING AND DO REFER TO, REFER TO THE COUNTY AND OTHERS AND GET INPUT.
AND THE OTHER ONE IS A SMALL AMENDMENT TO, AS COUNCILWOMAN FARROW BROUGHT UP IS, IS IN THE PUD LAW.
AGAIN, WHEN WE APPROVE PUDS, ONCE THEY'RE APPROVED, THEY GO ON FOREVER.
WELL, WE CAN'T TAKE AWAY THAT, RIGHT? IF THEY GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GETTING A PUD APPROVED.
BUT WE CAN, IN THE APPROVAL OF THE PLAN, BASICALLY SAY, LOOK, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PHASES.
WE CAN PUT TIME PERIODS ON THOSE PHASES AND SAY, LOOK, IF YOU DON'T DO THIS PHASE WITHIN A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD, YOU JUST HAVE TO RETURN TO THE TOWN BOARD AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE STILL PROCEEDING WITH THIS OR YOU'RE THINKING OF CHANGES TO THAT.
UM, WE'VE HAD VERY LONG TERM PUDS IN THE TOWN.
UM, TWO OF THEM HAVE GONE ON FOR 30 YEARS NOW.
UM, SO IT COULD BE TO PUT SOME LIMIT ON THE PHASING SO AT LEAST THEY RETURN TO YOU AND GIVE YOU UPDATES ON ON THE PLAN FOR, FOR, FOR THOSE.
SO THAT'S THE PROPOSAL FOR THAT.
AGAIN, STARTING THE PROCESS FOR THAT, THAT THAT ZONING REVISION.
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UH, THERE IS LOT, A LOT OF, AND AGAIN, I, IT'S THE SAME MEMO BUT I UPDATED A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, MY MEMO OF OUTSTANDING REZONING AND ZONING CODE MODIFICATIONS THAT THE CODE REVIEW COMMITTEE HAS WORKED ON FOR A LONG TIME.AND I'VE ACTUALLY ADDED NEW ONES THAT ARE FROM KIND OF ONES THAT COME TO THE TOP OR FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND PROBLEMS WE'VE BEEN HAVING AT THE PLANNING BOARD.
AND I ALSO GOT SOME REQUESTS FROM THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY BOARD ON A COUPLE ITEMS TOO.
SO PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT THAT IF YOU WANT TO PRIORITIZE, AUTHORIZE WHETHER IT'S THE, UH, LEGAL OFFICE OR OTHERS TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER.
UM, FOR EXAMPLE, THE ONE AT THE TOP OF MY LIST, 'CAUSE IT COMES UP ON JUST ABOUT EVERY PROJECT NOW, IS THE ISSUE OF SIDEWALKS.
THE CODE HAS KIND OF CHANGED OVER THE YEARS.
UM, SO WHAT IS THE REQUIREMENT SOMEONE IS DOING A NEW BUSINESS OR MODIFYING A BUSINESS IN THE TOWN? IS THERE A REQUIREMENT IF THERE'S NOT A SIDEWALK OUT FRONT TO PUT THAT SIDEWALK IN? I KNOW THAT'S BEEN A BIG PUSH IN THE TOWN.
WE JUST HAD A RECENT PROJECT WHERE THE PLANNING BOARD WENT BACK AND FORTH AND TRYING TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THEY SHOULD PUT SIDEWALKS IN.
SO EVENTUALLY YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT A KIND OF A SIDEWALK PLAN TOGETHER FOR THE TOWN WHERE YOU BELIEVE SIDEWALKS ARE NECESSARY IN THE TOWN AND PRIORITIZE THEM AND THEN HAVE A LAW TO SUPPORT THAT.
SO THE PLANNING BOARD, WHO'S THE ONE WHO'S WORKING ON MOST OF THOSE THINGS, WHETHER IT'S A SUBDIVISION, WHETHER IT'S A SITE PLAN, WHETHER WHATEVER THEY'RE MAKING THE DECISION ABOUT SIDEWALKS BEING PUT IN IN THE OLD DAYS AND THAT THAT'S NOT RIGHT AND IT'S NOT WRONG.
WE USED TO SAY, WELL, THERE'S NO OTHER SIDEWALKS IN THE AREA, WE'RE WAVING SIDEWALKS.
WELL, THE ALWAYS QUESTION IS IF YOU KEEP WAVING THEM, WHEN ARE WE EVER GONNA GET SIDEWALKS? SO THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME SORT OF PLAN PUT TOGETHER FOR THEM TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
SO THAT'S ON THE TOP OF MY LIST BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO BE COMING UP ON EVERY PROJECT NOW.
AND WE KNOW THE, WE'VE HEARD FROM THE GATEWAY COMMITTEE AND OTHERS HOW IMPORTANT SIDEWALKS IN WALKABILITY, BIKING IS AND ET CETERA.
SO WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO? WHAT DIRECTION ARE WE GIVING TO THE PLANNING BOARD? UM, SO THAT'S ON MY LIST.
THE TWO NEW ONES THAT THEIR CONSERVATION BOARD BROUGHT UP IS THEY DON'T LIKE THE IDEA THAT IN OUR LAW THERE'S REQUIREMENTS FOR TREE PLANTINGS AND SUBDIVISIONS AND OTHER THINGS.
AND IN THAT LAW IT ALLOWS THEM TO MAKE PAYMENTS IN LIEU TO THE TOWN.
IN FACT, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WILL COLLECT THOSE IF THERE'S, THEY CAN DO A PAYMENT IN LIEU OF PUTTING IN TREES.
CONSERVATION BOARD SAID, LET'S STOP TAKING PAYMENTS.
LET'S JUST MAKE 'EM PUT IN TREES.
IT'S NOT AS EASY AS WE THINK IT IS, BUT THINK ABOUT, THERE'S ALWAYS SOME REASONING NOT TO PUT THE TREE IN, BUT IT'S BECOME A OKAY, WE'RE JUST GONNA TAKE MONEY IN LIEU OF INSTEAD OF TRAINING, PLANTING TREES.
UM, THE OTHER ONE IS THE SETBACKS FROM WATERWAYS.
THE CONSERVATION BOARD FEELS VERY STRONGLY ABOUT IT.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON TRYING TO, THE UPFRONT PART OF THE ZONING CODE, THERE'S A CALLED A SECTION CONSERVATION AREAS AND IT'S EXTREMELY OUTDATED.
MATTER OF FACT, IT REFERENCES THINGS THAT DON'T EXIST, ET CETERA.
BUT IN THERE ARE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR SETBACKS FROM CREEKS AND WATERWAYS AND WHATEVER.
THEY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS UPDATED.
AND IT SAYS, AND THEIR SIM SIMPLE REQUEST IS THAT THERE SHOULDN'T BE NO BUILDINGS PLACED WITHIN A HUNDRED FEET OF ANY DESIGNATED STREAM, CARTER OR WATERWAY WITHIN THE TOWN.
THAT MAY BE A SIMPLE SOLUTION, BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT.
'CAUSE SOMETIMES THAT TAKES AWAY, IF YOU SAY THAT ON EVERY PIECE OF PROPERTY, YOU'D BE TAKING THOSE PEOPLE'S PROPERTY.
'CAUSE SOMETIMES THE PROPERTIES AREN'T BIG ENOUGH THEN TO PUT ANYTHING ON THERE, BUT THERE SHOULD BE METHODOLOGIES TO APPEAL THAT DECISION AND, AND, AND, AND GET WAIVERS OF THAT IF DONE THE RIGHT WAY.
SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE ONLY TWO NEW ONES OR ONES, BUT PLEASE READ THROUGH THROUGH THAT LIST.
THE SECOND ONE, WILL THAT BE, UM, DISCUSSED OR ADDRESSED AT ALL FOR THE, THE WATERWAYS? ONE, IT'LL ONLY, IT'LL ONLY ADDRESS THE 18 MILE CREEK, WHICH IS A SEPARATE SECTION OF THE CODE.
REMEMBER IF COUNCILMAN CONNOLLY WAS HERE, HE'S WORKING ON THAT SECTION OF THE 18 MILE CREEK THING.
KURT ALLEN, AND IT'S ACTUALLY A QUESTION I HAVE IN HERE.
KURT ALLEN CAME UP WITH CHANGED LANGUAGE TO THE SETBACK LI LIMITS FROM LAKE ERIE.
I DO NOT KNOW IF THAT EVER WAS ADOPTED.
I HAVE NO IDEA IF THAT EV THAT THAT NEW LAW THAT KURT MOSTLY WORKED ON WAS EVER ADOPTED.
SO THAT WE NEED TO CHECK INTO, IT SAYS IN THERE, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT LAW WAS EVER ADOPTED.
SO THAT WOULD AFFECT THE LAKE ERIE.
AND THEN 18 MILE CREEK IS ALREADY IN THAT SECTION THAT COUNCILMAN CONNOLLY IS WORKING ON.
AND AGAIN, THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'LL BE CHANGED IN THE LWRP, PROBABLY NOT, BUT IT WILL BE SUPPORT THAT HOPEFULLY.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF, IT'S QUITE A LONG LIST.
OBVIOUSLY, I'M, I'M HERE TO TELL YOU, AND YOU KNOW THIS, WHEN I, WHEN I TEACH COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING, I SAID THE EASY PART IS ADOPTING A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IT'S THE NEXT FIVE, 10 YEARS TO IMPLEMENT IT.
IS, IS WHEN YOU HAVE TO TAKE ALL THOSE ACTIONS AND THERE'S A METHODOLOGY ONBOARD EACH YEAR IS GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT FUNDING FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR, GRANTS THEY'RE GOING AFTER AND, AND PRIORITIZE THOSE THINGS THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON IN THAT COMING YEAR AND ASSIGNING IT TO THE APPROPRIATE INDIVIDUAL.
JUST EVERYBODY IS GONNA BE INVOLVED.
THERE'S GONNA BE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMMITTEE AND ALL
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DIFFERENT OTHER COMMITTEES THAT ARE GONNA HAVE TO HELP, HELP IMPLEMENT THIS BECAUSE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WITHOUT IMPLEMENTATION IS A BIG WASTE OF TIME AND EFFORT.AND THAT WAS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU DO A CONFERENCE PLAN FOR IS, IS HOPEFULLY BRING YOUR TOWN TOWARDS YOUR FUTURE.
AND THAT WAS A BIG DISCUSSION POINT DURING THIS ENTIRE PROCESS, RIGHT? IS THE, WITH THE WHOLE IMPLEMENTATION PIECE.
AND THAT WAS A BIG PART OF THE CONVERSATION, EVEN HOW WE STRUCTURE THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, RIGHT? SO KNOWING THAT WE'RE IN, UM, THAT BUDGET PROCESS, RIGHT? IS THAT A CONVERSATION THAT, UM, NEEDS TO BE HAD SO THAT THERE'S SOME, THAT'S WHY I PUT THIS LIST TOGETHER, THAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT WHAT ARE THOSE PRIORITY THINGS THAT YOU WANNA WORK ON FOR THE COMING YEAR? AND THESE ARE JUST ZONING ACTIONS.
YOU REALIZE THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT THE TOWN HAS TO DO.
YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A TOWN WIDE DRAINAGE STUDY BEING DONE.
YOU HAVE A GATEWAY STUDY OF ALL THESE THINGS THAT ARE BEING DONE.
SO YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THOSE THINGS TOO.
SO THE CONFERENCE PLAN HAS ZONING REVISION, BUT ALSO HAS OTHER ACTIONS THAT YOU NEED TO NEED TO DO.
SO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE THINGS.
IF YOU NEED SOME INPUT, YOU PUT THE FIRST DRAFT OF THE IMPLEMENTATION MATRIX TOGETHER FOR THE END OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
'CAUSE I GOT COMMENTS AND WHATEVER.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO PUT A SYNOPSIS IN THE DOCUMENT AND PUT THE MATRIX IN THE APPENDIX, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO LOOK AT IT AND GO 11 PAGES OF, I WANNA HAVE A SIMPLE HOW YOU DO THIS, AND THEN REFER TO THAT WITH WHO'S, WHO'S, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR WHERE IT BEGINS, WHERE FUNDING IS, ET CETERA, THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND I KNOW ONE OF THE, UM, COMMENTS THAT YOU FREQUENTLY MAKE AND, AND THAT I'VE LEARNED IN THE PAST FEW YEARS AND IN SPEAKING WITH YOU, IS THAT WE DO NOT HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS ADOPTED TO START ON A LOT OF THOSE ZONING ISSUES.
WE ALREADY HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT THAT, WHAT THOSE ITEMS ARE.
AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT MOVING AHEAD WITH, UM, SEVERAL OF THOSE NOW THAT'S WHY I STARTED TO PUT THAT LIST TOGETHER.
PLEASE ADD TO THAT LIST, IF ANYTHING, ADD TO THE LIST.
SAY, HEY, I READ IN HERE THAT THIS WAS IMPORTANT.
PUT THAT ON THAT LIST SO YOU CAN START THINKING ABOUT THOSE THINGS.
YOU'RE IN BUDGET SEASON, YOU'RE STARTING TO THINK ABOUT, BUT NOT ONLY THIS YEAR, BUT THE FOLLOWING YEAR, HOW YOU'RE GONNA PUT THESE THINGS TOGETHER.
SO, UH, PLEASE START THINKING ABOUT THEM.
WE'RE GONNA TRY TO HAVE, THAT WAS MY LAST HANDOUT FOR TONIGHT.
WE'RE GONNA TRY TO HAVE THE PLAN ADOPTED BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
THAT WAS THE WHOLE, WELL, THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS THE END OF LAST YEAR.
IT IS NOW THE END OF THIS YEAR.
UM, BUT WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS, WE'RE STARTING TO SET DATES AND PLEASE COMMENT ON THOSE DATES.
UM, FINALIZING THE, FINALIZING THE MEETINGS.
UM, YEAH, SO THINK ABOUT THOSE THINGS.
THINK ABOUT THE DATES, BUT WE'RE COMING TO THE END AND HOPEFULLY, UM, THE OTHER ONE I THINK BE YOU TALKED ABOUT GETTING WAS, UM, I DO NEED A CO COPY OF THE, OF THE TOWN WIDE DRAINAGE STUDY OR ANY FORMAT IT'S IN.
SO I CAN PROPERLY REFER TO IT AND, AND ATTACH IT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR JUST MAKE SURE THAT, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING IN THERE THAT'S BEEN A CONFLICT WITH YOUR DRAINAGE PLAN, BUT NO, I DO WANNA SUPPORT THAT.
HAS THAT, SO WE CAN ASK HER TO FORWARD THAT TO YOU.
AND ARE THERE ANY, IF I GOT 'EM ALL RIGHT, THERE'S A GATEWAY STUDY.
THERE'S, UM, THERE'S THE TOWN WIDE DRAINAGE STUDY.
THERE ARE, I KNOW YOU'RE, THERE'S OTHER ONES YOU'RE GONNA START IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
UM, LIKE A POTENTIAL BOA FIRST, FIRST STEP, BOA AND THERE'S OTHER STUDIES AND REPORTS.
WE'VE PUT SOME LANGUAGE IN THERE ABOUT THE, THE IDEA OF A MARINA CONCEPT IN THE TOWN.
BUT THE, THAT HAS TO BE FINALIZED BY THE TIME YOU ADOPT THE LWRP BECAUSE ANY PROJECT HAVING TO RELATE TO THE WATERFRONT, YOU MUST HAVE IN YOUR LWRP AND THAT OPENS UP A WHOLE NOTHER, UH, MARK MALUS WILL TELL YOU A WHOLE NOTHER POT OF MONIES TO IMPLEMENT LW PS NOW I'M HERE TO SAY THIS, EVERY YEAR THE STATE OF NEW YORK GOES DOING, DOESN'T GET ENOUGH APPLICATIONS FOR THEIR IMPLEMENTATION MONEY.
SO THERE IS MONEY THERE TO IMPLEMENT WATERFRONT PROJECTS.
SO LET'S MAKE SURE WE GET THOSE PROJECTS, HOW YOU WANT THEM IN THAT PLAN.
SO THAT PLAN IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN COMP PLAN.
I JUST GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT THE COMP PLAN DOESN'T CONFLICT WITH ANYTHING IN THE LWRP, BUT THE LWRP IS YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE WATERFRONT.
DOESN'T MATTER WHAT IT SAID, THAT OVERRIDES EVERYTHING.
IT'S, IT'S REGISTERED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE.
UM, SO THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE WATERFRONT HAS TO BE INCORPORATED INTO THAT LWRP DOCUMENT.
BY THE WAY, PROBABLY IN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO, PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE SOMEONE HERE AND GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE LWRP.
I KNOW THERE'S AN ANOTHER MEETING OF THE COMMITTEE COMING UP SHORTLY, BUT THEY SHOULD KEEP THE BOARD UP TO DATE ON WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT LWRP.
YOUR QUICK QUESTION, WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO WORK OUT THE DATES, UM, OCTOBER 19TH FOR THE PUBLIC MEETING, RIGHT.
'CAUSE WE DO WANNA GET THAT OUT THERE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
I THOUGHT WE UM, HAD SAID THAT BECAUSE THAT'S THE SAME NIGHT AS A PLANNING BOARD MEETING.
WE HAD TALKED ABOUT OCTOBER 20TH, BUT YOU WERE GONNA CHECK, WHICH DID YOU, WERE YOU GOING WITH THE 19TH OR, OR WE WERE WE LOOKING AT THE 20TH? BECAUSE THAT'S OKAY, THAT'S, YEAH, THAT'S A PUBLIC MEETING ON OCTOBER 19TH.
AND THAT'S MOSTLY, IT'S GONNA BE A PUBLIC MEETING, BUT IT WAS MOSTLY GONNA BE FOR AGRICULTURAL PEOPLE.
AND I THOUGHT IT WAS, IF WE HAD IT THAT NIGHT, EARLIER
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IN THE NIGHT PRIOR TO THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING, IF WE COULD HAVE IT AT FIVE O'CLOCK.THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO CHECK.
SO, AND AGAIN, IF THAT DOESN'T WORK, WE'LL MOVE IT TO A DIFFERENT NIGHT.
BUT AGAIN, TRYING TO FIND NIGHTS THAT WORK FOR EVERYBODY IS AS YOU KNOW, VERY DIFFICULT.
WE'RE JUST DECIDING WHETHER THAT COULD ACTUALLY BE ACCOMPLISHED ON THE NIGHT OF AM RIGHT.
THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING OF THAT NIGHT.
AND WE HAVE TRAINING FROM FOUR TO SIX, BUT, AND YOU HAVE TRAINING THAT NIGHT, SO WE MAY HAVE TO MOVE THAT MEETING DATE, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT TONIGHT BECAUSE WE WANNA GIVE THE PUBLIC ENOUGH.
UM, AND AS YOU MEET THE AGRICULTURAL COMMITTEE ON THIS WEEK, WE WANNA BE ABLE TO KNOW, RIGHT.
DO WE THINK WE CAN KEEP ALL THINGS GOING? I MEAN, DO WE NEED TO BE AT THE ENTIRE, UM, PUBLIC MEETING? I MEAN, WE CAN BE IN AND OUT THE, IT'LL BE OVER BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD STARTS.
WE DO HAVE SOME OF THE SAME PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE INVOLVED.
UM, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA ON THE 19TH OR DO WE WANNA MOVE IT TO THE 20TH? SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE TRAINING LIKE FOUR TO SIX.
THAT IT WOULD OVERLAP WITH THAT.
I THINK MAYBE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO TO THE 20TH.
ARE YOU THINKING FIVE 30 TO SEVEN OR GENERALLY STARTS AT SIX 30, DOESN'T THAT RIGHT? RIGHT.
BUT SOME THAT, ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THOSE TWO THINGS WOULD HAVE TO BE AT THAT PUBLIC MEETING THE ENTIRE TIME.
DREW'S GOING TO DO A PRESENTATION, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHAT A, A LITTLE BIT OF LIKE AN OPEN, OPEN HOUSE AND PRESENTATION AND THEN, UM, QUESTION AND ANSWER.
SO THAT'S, THAT WAS THE, THE QUESTION REALLY WAS COULD WE STILL HAVE THESE OTHER THINGS GOING ON? BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE NECESSARILY, YOU HAVE TO COME AND SIT DOWN AND BE THERE FOR THE ENTIRE, UM, HOUR AND A HALF.
SO IS IT ACTUALLY A GOOD USE OF TIME AND MIGHT IT ACTUALLY BRING MORE PEOPLE IN OR IS IT NOT A GOOD, THAT'S THE QUESTION.
DO WE HAVE FACILITIES BIG ENOUGH TO HOLD THOSE? SO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT SCHEDULE.
IT'S, IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS, LET ME KNOW.
'CAUSE THEN I HAVE YOU MEETING THE FOLLOWING NIGHT WITH THE AGRICULTURAL COMMITTEE MAKING A DECISION ON, BASED UPON WHAT WE HEARD AT THE, AT THE PUBLIC MEETING.
SO IF THAT'S TOO QUICK, AGAIN, I'M TRYING TO GET IT ALL DONE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR AND WE'RE STILL TRYING TO DO THAT.
BUT LET ME KNOW AND WE CAN ALWAYS, MEETINGS ON FRIDAYS ARE NEVER, NEVER HAPPEN.
SO WHAT'S THE, SO YOU DO HAVE THE 20TH IN HERE? I DO HAVE THE 20TH FOR THE MEETING JOIN TOWN BOARD AND COMMITTEE MEETING.
THAT WOULD BE, I, I HAD, THAT'S WHY WE HAD OCTOBER 19TH BECAUSE WE WANTED TO HAVE A JOINT MEETING.
AND THEN PREPARE FOR THE OCTOBER 24TH MEETING, WHICH IS A TOWN BOARD MEETING MM-HMM
WHERE YOU COULD ACTUALLY BEGIN THE PROCESS AND AUTHORIZE ME TO DO SECRET COORDINATOR REVIEWS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU'RE TRYING TO MEET THAT SCHEDULE.
YOU ONLY MEET A SORT TIME, OTHERWISE I LOSE A WHOLE MONTH UNTIL THE FOLLOWING.
AND WE NEED TO GET THE PUBLIC MEETING AND THEN YOU WOULDN'T ADOPT IT UNTIL JANUARY.
REMEMBER? AND THEN WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, IT ALL FALLS, THE REST OF IT FALLS INTO PLACE GIVEN THE MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE.
AND I STILL, YOU KNOW, BUT TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
OUR FALLBACK AND BETH WILL, NO, BETH WILL KILL ME IF I PUSH TO JANUARY.
SO, BUT IT IS A TIGHT, YOU HAVE BUDGET TIME, YOU HAVE WHATEVER.
AND, AND BETHS TOLD ME IT'S JUST TIME OF YEAR SINCE IT'S GONNA BE A VERY TOUGH TIME OF YEAR TO GET ALL THESE THINGS DONE.
SO FOR NOW, THAT'S THE SCHEDULE, UNLESS YOU TELL ME.
BUT IT WILL BE DIFFICULT THAT NIGHT OF OCTOBER 19TH, I WILL BE HOLDING AN OPEN HOUSE, PROBABLY STARTING AT FOUR 30, THEN A PUBLIC MEETING FROM FIVE OR FIVE 30 TO SIX 30 AND THEN GOING RIGHT INTO A PLANNING BOARD MEETING.
SO THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE, I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOUR TRAINING IS.
I'M WONDERING TOO, IF WE HAVE THE FACILITY TO ACCOMMODATE BOTH, UH, PUBLIC HEARING IF THAT PLANNING BOARD AGENDA HAS RIGHT.
ITEMS
SO WE, WE, MAYBE WE COULD DO IT.
I MEAN, IF, IF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AT FIVE 30 RIGHT TO SIX 30 MM-HMM
WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO, MIGHT ACTUALLY GAR MORE.
THE WORST CASE SCENARIO STILL KEEPING TO THE END OF THE YEAR WOULD BE TO HAVE THE PUBLIC MEETING THE FOLLOWING NIGHT INSTEAD OF THE JOINT TOWN BOARD PLANNING BOARD MEETING, I WOULD JUST THEN HAVE TO GET SOME SORT OF AUTHORIZATION BY YOUR, I HAVE TO GET MY RESOLUTIONS IN.
I'D BE LATE WITH MY RESOLUTION EXCEPT THURSDAY NIGHT.
I'D HAVE TO DO FRIDAY MORNING FOR MY RESOLUTIONS UNLESS I FILE 'EM EARLY AND EARLY.
AND, AND SAY IN ANTICIPATION AND EVERYTHING RUN SMOOTH.
OTHERWISE WE JUST PULL THE RESOLUTION.
AND THEN I THINK OUR, OUR FALLBACK WAS THAT INSTEAD THEN OF DOING THE JOINT TOWN BOARD AND COMMITTEE AND AGRICULTURAL COMMITTEE ON THE 20TH, WE WERE GONNA USE WORK SESSION TIME ON THE 24TH.
THAT'S WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED THEN THAT'S THE OTHER POSSIBILITY.
SO I, WHATEVER EVERYONE THINKS IS BETTER.
SO PLEASE GET YOUR INPUT TO BETH.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION THE NEXT COUPLE DAYS BECAUSE I NEED TO START ADVERTISING FOR THOSE THINGS.
I HAVE MY MEETING WITH THE AGRICULTURAL COMMITTEE MEETING TOMORROW AT NOON.
UM, I'D LIKE TO TELL THEM THAT I THINK WE HAVE A TENTATIVE DATE FOR THE, THE PUBLIC MEETING BECAUSE THE PURPOSE OF
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THAT PUBLIC MEETING IS A, WE'RE GONNA INVITE ALL THE PUBLIC, BUT IT IS FOCUSED ON AGRICULTURAL.WE, WE HAVE TO GET THE AGRICULTURAL STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COMMUNITY TO COME TO THE MEETING.
BUT I WANT ALSO WANT THE GENERAL PUBLIC THERE TO SAY, HEY, THERE'S ANOTHER SIDE TO AGRICULTURAL AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE TOWN.
JUST WANNA LOOK AT 19TH THAT WORK? I THINK SO.
WE, AND WE'RE GONNA DO THE 19TH FOR THE PUBLIC MEETING.
AND THEN DO WE WANT TO DO THE MEETING, THE JOINT MEETING WITH THE TOWN BOARD, THE COMMITTEE AND THE AGRICULTURAL COMMITTEE ON THE, THE FOLLOWING NIGHT ON THE 20TH? OR DO WE WANNA DO IT DURING THE WORK SESSION ON THE 24TH OR DO YOU THINK DREW I THINK WE'RE GONNA DO IT ON THE 24TH.
I'M JUST GONNA HAVE TO GET MY, IT SAYS IN BI JUST HAVE TO GET MY RESOLUTION INTO THE TOWN CLERK ON 10 20 BY NOON.
SO THE TWO DATES WILL BE THE 19TH AND THE 24TH.
SO THEN MICHELLE KNOWS THAT'LL BE ON THE WORK SESSION AGENDA FOR THE 24TH.
THEN IF THE, AT THE 24TH MEETING, YOU'LL BE CALLING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR NOVEMBER 7TH AT 7:00 PM THAT YOU WANNA HAVE A SPECIAL NIGHT.
I KNOW YOU WANNA HAVE A SPECIAL NIGHT FOR THAT.
UM, AND THEN WE MOVE FORWARD WITH AUTHORIZATIONS AND THEN HOPEFULLY I'M AT THE TOWN BOARD MEETING DOING NEC AND ADOPTING THE PLAN.
AND BECAUSE OF TODAY'S WORLD, I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THIS.
YOU'LL BE MAKING SMALL AMENDMENTS TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AT LEAST MAYBE EVERY YEAR, IF NOT EVERY OTHER YEAR.
IT'S THE ONLY WAY TO KEEP IT UP TO DATE WITH THE WORLD CHANGING THIS FAST.
WE USED TO DO COMPREHENSIVE PLANS FOR 20 YEARS.
THIS LAST ONE HAS BEEN 17 YEARS, I THINK NOW, 16, 17 YEARS.
THE WORLD HAS CHANGED SO MUCH.
SO KEEP IT UP TO DATE AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY DOING BIG UPDATES.
KEEP IT UP TO DATE EACH MONTH.
AND THAT'S, YOU'LL SEE IN THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, EACH COMMITTEE DOES A REPORT TO THE TOWN BOARD EACH YEAR SAYING, HEY, THESE ARE THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO NEXT YEAR.
THIS IS WHAT WE ACCOMPLISH THIS YEAR AND THIS MAY BE A PROBLEM WE'RE HAVING THAT YOU MAY HAVE TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE PLAN.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? I WAS NOT, I WAS NOT GONNA STICK AROUND FOR THE REGULAR MEETING.
YOU HAVE A FEW ITEMS ON, UH, THE AGENDA TONIGHT.
TWO OF 'EM ARE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
YOU'RE JUST GONNA TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.
AND THE OTHER TWO I PUT IN WERE FOR CALLING PUBLIC HEARINGS, DOING, REFERRING TO THE COUNTY, ET CETERA.
SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO GO OVER, I HAVE A, A LATE RESOLUTION THAT I WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION.
UM, UH, THIS IS JUST ON THE CLOCK TOWER, UH, JUST IN WAY OF BACKGROUND.
UM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, IT'S A BIT OF A COMPLICATED PROJECT OVER THERE.
AND THERE'S, UH, AN ISSUE WHERE NEW YORK STATE DOT AND THE PARCEL THAT IS, UH, CLOSE TO THE CLOCK TOWER AND THERE'S A WORK PERMIT THAT IS NEEDED.
UH, AND WE ARE ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO OUR CONTRACTOR TO, UM, TO HELP US WITH THAT PERMITTING PROCESS.
UH, SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WANTED TO, UH, ADDRESS THIS EVENING.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR $16,528 TO ADD TO THE CONTRACT WITH, UM, URBAN ENGINEER.
BUDGET LINE COMING OUT OF, OR UH, NO, WE DON'T HAVE THAT RIGHT? NO.
UM, WE HAVE 20 MINUTES BEFORE THIS ON BOARD MEETING.
I KNOW THAT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT HAD SOME, UM, UH, NEEDS TO, UH, JUDGE LITIGATION UPDATES.
SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR LITIGATION UPDATES.
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TOWN BOARD TO ORDER.BEGIN WITH THE ROLL CALL COUNCILWOMAN HOPE HERE, SUPERVISOR HOPE PRESENT.
COUNCILMAN PRESENT AND PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEASURE OF RESOLVED THAT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD DOES HEREBY APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING AS FOLLOWS, REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING AUGUST 15TH, 2022.
MOTION MAY COUNCIL MEMBER SECOND.
COUNCIL MEMBER HO IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
NEXT ON THE AGENDA, WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR FOLKS THAT ARE, UM, INTERESTED IN SPEAKING AT THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
WE ASK JUST SO THAT WE CAN MAINTAIN ORDER THAT YOU SIGN, UH, UP RIGHT UP HERE.
IF, IF YOU NEED THAT SIGNUP SHEET, UH, MICHELLE CAN BRING THAT TO YOU.
UM, AND WE'LL GET YOU, UH, WE'LL GET YOU LISTED TO, TO SPEAK FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.
PLEASE TAKE NOTICE OF HEARING HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO THE TOWN BOARD FOR THE TOWN OF HAMBURG ON AUGUST 15TH, 2022.
PURSUANT TO MUNICIPAL HOMEOWNERS HOME RULE LAW, PROPOSED LOCAL LAW TO BE KNOWN AS CODE LOCAL LAW NUMBER 6 20 22 PROPOSED LOCAL LAW.
CHAPTER 31 OF THE HAMBURG TOWN CODE TITLE, HISTORIC PRESERVATION ADVISORY BOARD.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS LOCAL LAW IS TO AMEND CHAPTER 31 TO RENAME THE HISTORICAL PRESERVATION ADVISORY BOARD IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION AND EXPAND THE DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE COMMISSION, AND TO PROMOTE AND FACILITATE THE PRESERVATION OF HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT STRUCTURES AND PROPERTIES WITHIN THE TOWN OF HAMPER.
THEREFORE, PURSUANT TO THE MUNICIPAL, PURSUANT TO THE STATUTES AND PROVISIONS, THE MUNICIPAL HOME WILL LAW, THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG WILL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON EIGHT FOUR SAID LAW AT THE HAMPER TOWN HALL.
SIX 100 SOUTHBOUND AVENUE
AT WHICH TIME PERSON THEY HAVE NO CORRESPONDENCE.
IS ANYBODY WISHING TO BE HEARD? UH, FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING? FOR THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION? IS ANYBODY WISHING TO BE HEARD ON THE LOCAL LAW ESTABLISHING THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION? OKAY, WE MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SECOND, BY COUNCIL MEMBER HOKO IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE STATE NOTICE THAT THERE BE PRESENTED TO THE TOWN BOARD ON AUGUST 15TH, 2022, PURSUANT TO THE MUNICIPAL HOME RULE LAW, POST LOCAL LAW TO BE KNOWN AS PROPOSED LOCAL LAW NUMBER 7 20 22 SAID, LOCAL LAW PROVIDES FOR THE AMENDMENT OF LOCAL LAW NUMBER 10 19 86, CHAPTER TWO 80 ENTITLED, ZONING AND PROVIDE SUBSTANTIALLY AS FOLLOWS, FOR THE ADOPTION OF AN AMENDMENT TO SET ZONING CODE A PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF RILEY BOULEVARD FROM C TWO GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO NC NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL GENERAL RESIDENCE DISTRICT.
THIS PROPERTY IS IDENTIFIED BY SBL NUMBER 1 7 1 0.05131.
THEREFORE, PURSUANT TO THE STATUTE
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SUPERVISIONS OF MISS O NEWS LAW, THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG WILL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 12TH, 2022 AT SEVEN O'CLOCK AT WHICH TIME ALL INDIVIDUAL PERSON MAY BE HEARD.ALRIGHT, SO I'M ASSUMING WE HAVE, UH, I AM, YEP, GO AHEAD.
GOOD EVENING, MR. SUPERVISOR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I'M THE ATTORNEY AND AGENT FOR PARK GROVE REALTY, UH, PARKER GROVE REALTY.
IT IS CONTRACT EE OF VACANT LOT, WHICH IS, AS THE CLERK POINTED OUT, LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF RILEY BOULEVARD, 7.43 ACRES OF LAND.
UM, IT'S SOUTH, UH, CERTAINLY NORTH OF SOUTHWESTERN BOULEVARD AND SOUTH OF BAYVIEW ROAD.
UM, WE HAVE SOME HANDOUTS WITH SOME MAPS, WHICH WILL BE PART OF THE, UH, PRESENTATION BY EASEL.
WITH ME TONIGHT IS ALAN HANDELMAN IN THE FRONT ROW, WHO IS THE VICE PRESIDENT OF PARK ROW OF REALTY.
UH, ALSO WITH US, OUR REPRESENTATIVES OF PASS FLOW ASSOCIATES, WHO ARE THE PROJECT ENGINEERS.
UH, FIRST HANDOUT THAT WE HAVE IS, IS A MAP OF THE GENERAL AREA, UM, OF WHICH WE ARE TALKING, UH, AS WE TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
THE CROSS HEDGED AREA IS THE OVERALL SITE OF, UH, ON THE WEST SIDE OF RILEY BOULEVARD, SOUTH OF BAYVIEW, UM, WHICH IS THE SUBJECT OF OUR REZONING THIS EVENING, UH, ORIGINALLY.
AND, UH, THE INTENTION WAS INITIALLY JUST TO REZONE THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THAT FROM THE NC ZONING DIS, OR EXCUSE ME, FROM THE C TWO ZONING DISTRICT, UH, TO THE NC NEIGHBOR, COMMERCIAL GENERAL RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, UH, TO ALLOW CONSTRUCTION OF 70 UNITS OF WORKFORCE HOUSING, MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL ON THE SITE.
UM, OUR PROPERTY IS, YOU CAN SEE BY THE MAP THAT WE HAVE HERE, IS LOCATED ESSENTIALLY AMONG A MIXTURE OF USES.
THE WEST OF US IS, UH, IS SCHOOL PROPERTY.
THE NORTH OF US IS PLUG ZONE PROPERTY, WHICH ARE CONDOS.
UM, AND FURTHER NORTH, OUR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO NORTHEAST OF, OF OUR SITE IS AN AREA WHICH WAS REZONED BY THE TOWN BOARD, UH, FROM C TWO TO NC TO ALLOW THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT OF, UH, OF APARTMENTS IN THAT LOCATION.
THE SOUTH OF US IS COMMERCIAL, AND THAT IS ZONE C TWO, PART OF WHICH IS DEVELOPED, PART OF WHICH ISN'T.
THE HAMBURG BUSINESS PARK, WHICH REALLY COMPRISES THE BULK OF THIS PROPERTY.
SOUTH OF RILEY, UH, IS UH, WAS ESSENTIALLY A PROGRAM INTENDED FOR COMMERCIAL USE.
BUT IN THE YEARS SINCE, UH, SINCE IT WAS ESTABLISHED, UH, IT HASN'T REALLY TAKEN HOLD, CERTAINLY AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE NORM.
SO TO THAT EXTENT, UH, WE ARE LOOKING TO CREATE, UH, BY THE ZONING TRANSITIONAL ZONING, UH, TO PROVIDE ESSENTIALLY A BUFFER FOR THE COMMERCIAL USES TO THE RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE NORTH.
SO WITH THAT, UH, BACKGROUND, UH, WE GO TO OUR NEXT, OUR NEXT MAP, OUR NEXT PICTURE, WHICH DEPICTS OUR SITE.
AND IF YOU CAN TURN IT SIDEWAYS SO THE PA IS ON THE TOP, WE'LL ORIENT OURSELVES TO SO THAT WE'RE THE SAME WAY NORTH TO SOUTH.
SO ON OUR, UH, ON OUR MAP HERE, WE SHOW, UH, THE CONDOS AT, UH, ON BAYVIEW.
UH, AT THE VERY TOP OF THE MAP, WE SHOW FRONTIER OF THE SCHOOL ON THE, ON THE WEST, AND WE SHOW OUR PARCEL THAT WE INTEND TO DEVELOP FOR THE MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
AND THEN THERE'S A REMAINING PIECE OF REMAINING FIVE ACRES OR THEREABOUTS, UH, OF THE SITE.
WE STARTED THIS, UM, THIS DISCUSSION WITH THE TOWN IN THE FIRST PART OF THE YEAR, ACTUALLY STARTED IN JANUARY.
AND IT IS, UH, IT IS A SITE THAT WE THINK IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF THE TOWN TO THE EXTENT THAT THE TOWN REALLY FALLS FOR DIVERSITY OF HOUSING STOCK.
AND WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING HERE IS WORKFORCE HOUSING ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT, UH, AMAZON WORKERS WOULD BE MAKING OR, OR THEREABOUT.
SO WE'RE LOOKING TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, TYPE OF HOUSING FOR PEOPLE IN THAT, IN THAT INCOME RANGE, A MIX OF ONE, TWO, AND THREE FAMILY, UH, APARTMENTS.
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UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS I SAID DOES CALL FOR DIVERSITY IN HOUSING STOCK ARE DRAFT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH IS CURRENTLY IN PROCESS, HAS IDENTIFIED THIS AREAS ONE, WHICH SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING.IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT IT, IT'S, IT'S ITEM NUMBER FOUR, AND IT KIND OF QUESTIONS THE CURRENT ZONING AND WHETHER IT'S AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE SITE.
THERE WAS NO SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION FOR ZONING IN EITHER THE EXISTING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR THE PROPOSED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITE.
BUT NONETHELESS, IT'S BEEN BROUGHT INTO QUESTION, UH, BY THE CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
OUR CONCEPT DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL IS TO CONSTRUCT SEVEN, TWO AND A HALF STORY BUILDINGS ON THE SITE, UH, WHICH WOULD BE 10 UNITS EACH FOR A TOTAL OF 70 UNITS, A DENSITY OF LESS THAN 10, 10 UNITS PER ACRE.
UH, WHICH IS WELL IN LINE WITH WHAT TYPICAL MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT IS.
TWO AND A HALF STORIES, CERTAINLY SHORTER THAN THE REZONED ONES THAT I POINTED TO THE NORTHEAST, WHICH ARE THREE STORY.
SO WE, WE ARE LOOKING TO, UH, CREATE A GOOD, UH, GOOD VIEW SCAPE IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
OUR PROPOSAL ULTIMATELY WOULD TALK ABOUT 70% GREEN SPACE, UH, AND AS OPPOSED TO THE CURRENT C TWO, UH, WOULD RESULT IN APPROXIMATELY 400 CARS PER DAY, UM, OR PER, EXCUSE ME, DURING PEAK HOUR.
AS OPPOSED TO WHAT WOULD BE SUBSTANTIALLY MORE IF THIS WERE DEVELOPED IN THE C TWO COMMERCIAL AS C TWO COMMERCIAL IS PROVIDED UNDER CODE ONE DESIGN FACTOR, WHICH MAY BE OF INTEREST.
I SEE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE ROOM.
I'M GUESSING SOME OF THEM MAY BE FOR THIS, NOT ALL OF THEM.
IS THAT, UH, IS THAT THERE MAY BE SOME INTEREST TO THE FACT THAT THIS PROJECT IS ORIENTED, UH, TOWARD THE SOUTH.
THERE'S NO PROPOSAL FOR CURB CUTS ONTO BAYVIEW.
UH, WE ARE PROPOSING TO HAVE ALL OF OUR ACCESS COME FROM TWO ACCESS POINTS ON RILEY FURTHER SOUTH ON THE SITE.
AS I STATED, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH TOWN STAFF, THE GO REVIEW COMMITTEE AND THE PLANNING BOARD FOR A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF TIME ON THIS.
UH, AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE TOWN BOARD HAS SEEN THIS APPLICATION BECAUSE THE TOWN BOARD DID, UH, REFER IT TO THE PLANNING BOARD AFTER REVIEW, AFTER RECEIVING THE CRC RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO IN FACT, IT HAS GONE THROUGH ITS, UH, ITS PACES AND ITS STEPS.
UH, WE WERE AT THE PLANNING BOARD ON THE REFERRAL IN APRIL.
UH, WE WERE THERE IN, UH, IN MAY AND IN TWO MEETINGS IN JULY, WHICH RESULTED IN A RECOMMENDATION BY THE PLANNING BOARD TO REZONE THIS PROPERTY.
BUT THE PLANNING BOARD HAD, UH, A RECOMMENDATION RELATIVE TO THAT REZONE FURTHER RECOMMENDATION.
AND THAT IS TO REZONE THE REMAINDER OF THIS PROPERTY, UM, GOING UP TOWARD DEBUT, UH, TO NC AS WELL.
SO THAT PROVIDES, UH, A GOOD, A GOOD BUFFER, BETTER BUFFER IN THAT AREA.
AND THAT EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT UNDER CONTRACT FOR THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING WHICH, UH, WHICH A CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER DAVID BURKE IN THE, IN THE HAMBURG BUSINESS PARK HAVE AGREED TO.
AND IN FACT, OUR LEGAL NOTICE PROVIDES FOR REZONING OF THE ENTIRE PROPERTY TO THE, UH, UH, TO THAT, UH, NC ZONING DISTRICT.
SO, UM, BASICALLY OUR PROPOSAL IS TO OUR MIND IN ACCORD WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH IS THE LEGAL STANDARD THAT WE ALL HAVE TO FOLLOW RELATIVE TO ZONINGS AND REZONINGS.
UH, WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT IT PROVIDES A GOOD TRANSITIONAL ZONING FROM THE NEW TRACTOR SUPPLY OF THE USE OF LONG SOUTHWESTERN BOULEVARD, UH, AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND PROVIDES A, UH, A GOOD, UH, GOOD BUFFER, UH, FOR THE SITE FROM THE SCHOOL AND, UH, THE RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH.
I, I THINK, UH, THE TOWN BOARD IS TO HEAR WHAT THE PUBLIC HAS TO SAY AS WELL.
UH, WE'LL KEEP OUR PRESENTATION SHORT.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE IN OUR GROUP HAS ANYTHING TO ADD RIGHT AT THIS POINT.
UM, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO RESERVE, UH, SOME TIME IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT WE CAN ANSWER, UH, FROM THE PRESENTATION AS DIRECTED TO THE BOARD, WE ENGAGE IN DIALOGUE BACK AND FORTH, OBVIOUSLY, UM, WE WOULD, UH, WE WOULD WELCOME THAT OPPORTUNITY OR, UH, ASSUMING THAT THE HEARING IS NOT GOING TO CONCLUDE TONIGHT, WE WOULD PROVIDE SOME ANSWERS AND WRITING WELL TO THE BOARD.
SO WITH THAT, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, RECEIVING INPUT ON THIS FROM THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC.
SO WE HAVE A LIST OF SPEAKERS AND I WILL, UH, CALL UPON YOU, UH, JUST TO, UH, SET SOME
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SUGGESTED GROUND RULES.UM, TYPICALLY, UH, WE LIKE TO KEEP COMMENTS TO ABOUT THREE MINUTES OR LESS.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS A CHANCE TO SPEAK AND BE HEARD TONIGHT.
WE ASK THAT, UM, WHILE SOMEBODY ELSE IS SPEAKING, THAT, UH, YOU JUST, UH, BE MINDFUL OF, OF THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AND, AND HOLD YOUR COMMENTS TO, UM, TO YOUR TURN TO SPEAK.
AND, UH, PERHAPS MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE ASK THAT YOU USE YOUR COMMENTS TO ADDRESS THE TOWN BOARD RATHER THAN THE AUDIENCE.
AND WE'LL START WITH, UH, EMILY PASTOR.
DEAR SUPERVISOR, HOPE AND MEMBER OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG BOARD.
MY NAME IS EMILY PASTOR, NECK OF 45 59 BUCKINGHAM LANE IN HAMBURG.
I'M HERE TONIGHT TO REPRESENT MY FATHER, RICHARD PASTOR, WHO COULD NOT BE HERE DUE TO AN OUT OF TOWN WORK COMMITMENT.
I'M HERE TO RELAY HIS OBJECTIONS TO THE PROPOSAL, THE REZONING FOR THE APARTMENTS OFF OF RILEY ROAD.
MY WIFE AND I PURCHASED OUR HOME A LITTLE MORE THAN 25 YEARS AGO.
AT THE TIME, THE ONLY APARTMENTS NEAR OUR HOME WERE BETHEL ESTATES.
AND THE TIME THAT WE HAVE LIVED HERE, THE NUMBER OF APARTMENTS WITHIN ONE ONE MILE RADIUS OF OUR HOME HAS GROWN EXPONENTIALLY.
IN CASE YOU DO NOT REALIZE THE NUMBERS, LET ME EDUCATE YOU ON THE CURRENT NUMBERS.
BETHEL ESTATES TWO BUILDINGS, 210 UNITS, THE WOODS AT BAYVIEW, TWO BUILDINGS, 30 UNITS WITH ROOMS FOR ADDITIONAL 15 UNITS.
FOSTER BROOK APARTMENTS, FIVE BUILDINGS, 145 UNITS SOUTH POINT SENIOR APARTMENTS, ONE BUILDING 102 UNITS, CLIFTON HEIGHTS FIVE BUILDING 135 UNITS, BROOKVIEW APARTMENTS, 21 BUILDINGS, 168 UNITS.
MAPLEWOOD ESTATES 34 BUILDINGS, 136 UNITS, SHERWOOD MEADOWS, EIGHT BUILDINGS, 100 UNITS.
THE OAKS 19 BUILDINGS 152 UNITS FOR A GRAND TOTAL OF 1,178 APARTMENT UNITS.
TO REITERATE, THESE ARE ALL WITHIN ONE MILE OF OUR HOME.
IN ADDITION, I WAS RECENTLY OUT A TOWN BOARD OR A TOWN OF HAMBURG PLANNING BOARD MEETING WHERE A DEVELOPER CAME IN WHO SPOKE ABOUT A PROJECT WHICH THE PLANNING BOARD APPEARED FAVORABLY UPON TO TURN THE IMM CONVENT ON SOUTH PARK AVENUE INTO A MULTI-FAMILY APARTMENTS IN SENIOR LIVING HOUSING, 125 SENIOR UNIT SENIOR UNITS, AND 136 MARKET RATE UNITS.
THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD FALL JUST OUTSIDE OF THE ONE MILE RANGE OF OUR HOME.
ADDITIONALLY, PER THE HAMBURG SUN, THE HAMBURG IDA JUST AWARDED $1.1 MILLION IN TAX BREAKS TO BUILD MORE SENIOR HOUSING IN THE EXISTING COMPLEX OFF OF CAMP ROAD.
THE VILLAGES OF MISSION HILLS TO ADD APPROXIMATELY 56 STYLE RANCH STYLE APARTMENT UNITS.
AND THIS IS AN ADDITION TO THE EXISTING 26 APARTMENT BUILDINGS AND 91 PATIO HOMES THAT CURRENTLY EXIST AT THIS LOCATION.
ALSO PER THE HAMBURG SUN, THE TOWN PLANNING BOARD UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED TWO ADDITIONAL APARTMENT COMPLEXES AT THE INTERSECTION OF SOUTHWESTERN AND ROGERS ROAD.
THE PROJECT BEING CONSTRUCTED BY DATO DEVELOPMENT CALLS FOR 18 APARTMENT BUILDINGS.
FOUR WOULD FOUR WOULD HAVE 26 UNITS EACH FOUR WOULD HAVE EIGHT UNITS EACH AND 10 WOULD HAVE TWO UNITS EACH.
THAT'S A TOTAL OF 166 ADDITIONAL UNITS.
IS ALSO PLANNING AN APARTMENT COMPLEX IN THIS LOCATION WITH AN ADDITIONAL 74 UNITS BEYOND THESE CURRENTLY APPROVED APARTMENTS.
THERE IS ALSO AN APPROVED PUD ON THE LAND OF THE FORMER SOUTH SHORE COUNTRY CLUB.
NO PLANS TODAY HAVE COME FORWARD, HOWEVER, AS A PUD APARTMENTS ARE ALLOWED UNDER THIS ZONING CLASSIFICATION, THEREFORE WE CAN EXPRE EXPECT MORE APARTMENTS TO BE BUILT AT THIS LOCATION.
NOW SPEAKING TO THE PROJECT PLANNED FOR RILEY STREET, I HAVE ATTENDED MULTIPLE PLANNING BOARD MEETINGS REGARDING THIS PROJECT.
DURING THESE MEETINGS, MR. DREW RILEY CONSULTANTS TO THE PLANNING BOARD HAS STATED THAT THE COMMERCIAL OFFICE PARK OFF OF RILEY STREET HAS NEVER MATERIALIZED, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF MERIDIAN FEDERAL CREDIT UNION AND TRACTOR SUPPLY.
THIS LAND HAS BEEN VACANT FOR A GOOD PART OF 20 YEARS.
I FIND THIS NOT TO BE THE FAULT OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG OR THE RESIDENTS OF THE AREA.
I FIND THIS TO BE THE FAULT OF BURKE DEVELOPMENT OVER THOSE 20 YEARS.
I ASK YOU, WHAT HAS BURKE THEMSELVES CONSTRUCTED ON THIS PROPERTY? THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION WOULD BE NOTHING.
THEY HAVE NOT BUILT OFFICES, WAREHOUSE, OR SPEC BUILDINGS.
MR. BURKE HAS ESSENTIALLY WAITED FOR COMPANIES TO COME TO HIM TO BUY THE PROPERTY AND BUILD ON HIS LAND WITHOUT MR. BURKE DOING ANY OF THE WORK.
RILEY STREET WAS NEVER DESIGNED TO BE A RESIDENTIAL ROAD OR TO HAVE RESIDENTIAL, UM, DEVELOPMENTS BUILT ON IT.
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BEEN DOWN RILEY, THE ROAD IS CURRENTLY, AS IT CURRENTLY SITS, IS IN POOR CONDITION.MANY OF THE STREETS ALONG RILEY HAVE NOT WORKED IN OVER TWO YEARS.
RILEY IS NOT A STRAIGHT ROAD AND IS A AND IS CURVED AND IN SOME CASES A BLIND CURVED ROAD.
I HAVE TRAVELED THIS ROAD MANY TIMES IN THE WINTER AND OBSERVED CARS THAT HAVE LOST CONTROL WHEN THE ROAD IS SNOW COVERED.
WHEN RILEY WAS CONSTRUCTED, THE TOWN MADE NO ALLOWANCE FOR ANY SIDEWALKS ALONG RILEY BOULEVARD OR BAYVIEW ROAD.
THIS GOES TO SHOW THAT THE TOWN NEVER INTENDED FOR THIS PROPERTY TO BE DEVELOPED FOR ANY RESIDENTIAL USE.
I DO NOT KNOW IF THE PRESENT TOWN BOARD IS AWARE THAT THIS EXACT AREA WAS BROUGHT TO THE TOWN BOARD APPROXIMATELY THREE YEARS AGO FOR THE SAME REZONING BY PEOPLE INC.
TO CONSTRUCT LOW INCOME AND HANDICAPPED HOUSING.
THE TOWN BOARD DENIED THE REQUEST AND KEPT THE ZONING AT ITS CURRENT ZONING.
IF THE TOWN BOARD NOW GOES AHEAD AND REZONES THIS PROPERTY, I FEEL THAT THEY MAY BE OPENING THEMSELVES UP FOR A DISCRIMINATION LAWSUIT UNDER THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITY ACT AND FAIR HOUSING.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE TOWN WOULD WANT THAT KIND OF PUBLICITY.
IN ADDITION, I HAVE RECENTLY READ IN THE HAMBURG SUN THAT MR. BURKE HAS A PUD AT THE CORNER OF SOUTHWESTERN AND ROGERS.
THE ARTICLE STATED THAT THIS LAND HAS BEEN EMPTY FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
IT WOULD APPEAR THAT THE PROBLEM AGAIN IS NOT WITH THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, BUT WITH BURKE DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE BURKE DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT WISH TO SPEND ANY OF ITS OWN RESOURCES TO DEVELOP THIS LAND, THAT SHOULD NOT BECOME THE PROBLEM OF, OF THE RESIDENCE ADJACENT WITHIN OR WITHIN ONE MILE OF THE PROPERTY.
ADDITIONALLY, THE AMOUNT OF LAND BEING ASKED FOR REZONING IS APPROXIMATELY TWICE THE AREA OF THE LAND NEEDED TO CONSTRUCT THE PROPOSED PROPERTY, WHICH MEANS THEY'RE COUNTING ON BUILDING A PHASE TWO, WHICH OF COURSE AT THIS POINT IN TIME THEY'RE NOT BRINGING FORWARD.
WHEN THE TOWN APPROVED THE BROOKVIEW APARTMENTS, RESIDENTS WERE TOLD AT THE TIME THAT THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS WILL BE INSTALLED AT THE INTERSECTION OF SOUTHWESTERN BOULEVARD AND BUCKINGHAM LANE.
HOWEVER, THIS HAS NOT OCCURRED.
THE NEW YORK STATE DOT DID A TRAFFIC STUDY DURING THE PEAK OF COVID, WHICH I'M SURE SHOW THAT THE TRAFFIC COUNTS ARE NOWHERE NEAR ENOUGH FOR A TRAFFIC LIGHT.
HOWEVER, IF YOU COME TO BUCKINGHAM LANE DURING THE MORNING AND EVENING RUSH HOURS AND TRY TO TURN OUT OF THE STREET LEFT OR RIGHT, IT CAN BE QUITE DANGEROUS.
THIS IS DUE TO THE INFLUX OF BUILDINGS ALONG SOUTHWESTERN.
IF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG IS IN SUCH DIRE NEED FOR APARTMENT BUILDINGS, THE TOWN SHOULD, SHOULD CONSIDER CHANGING THE ZONING PROPERTY ALONG PLEASANT AVENUE, LAKEVIEW ROAD, AND SOUTH ABBOTT ROAD, TAYLOR ROAD AND STATE ROUTE 3 91.
THESE AREAS CONTAIN VAST AMOUNTS OF OPEN LAND, WHICH WOULD BE PERFECT FOR LARGE SCALE APARTMENT DEVELOPMENTS.
HOWEVER, IN LOOKING UP THE ADDRESSES OF YOURSELF AND THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS, IT APPEARS THAT YOU ALL LIVE IN THESE AREAS, WHICH SPECIFICALLY BY ZONING, DO NOT ALLOW APARTMENTS.
ISN'T THAT CONVENIENT? WHEN I MOVED TO HAMBURG, MY WIFE AND I CHOSE TO RAISE OUR FAMILY SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE IT WAS NOT AMHERST.
HOWEVER, IF YOU CONTINUE CHANGING ZONING TO ALLOW APARTMENTS IN ALREADY OVERSATURATED AREAS, WE WILL BECOME AMHERST.
IN CLOSING, IT IS MY BELIEF THAT THE RESIDENTS OF HAMBURG, THIS AREA OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, SHOULD NOT BE THE ONLY ONES IN OUR TOWN FOR AND WITH THIS TYPE OF EXCESSIVE APARTMENT CONSTRUCTION.
THE QUESTION AT THIS TIME, THE BOARD MUST ASK TO ASK ITSELF, IS HAMBURG THE TOWN THAT FRIENDSHIP BUILT, OR IS HAMBURG THE TOWN THAT WAS BUILT BY APARTMENTS? THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERATION AND I'D ASK YOU TO VOTE AGAINST THE REZONING OF THIS PROJECT.
I LIVE AT 4 1 8 7 MISTY MEADOW LANE, WHICH IS RIGHT VERY CLOSE TO THIS PROJECT.
UM, I WAS ALSO HERE IN 2019 WHEN PEOPLE INCORPORATED WAS TRYING TO BUILD AND THAT WAS TURNED DOWN AND THAT W THAT WAS HOMES FOR DISABLED AND UM, LESS FORTUNATE PEOPLE AND THAT GOT TURNED DOWN.
AND NOW FOR THIS TO COME IN, THAT'S NOT FAIR TO THOSE PEOPLE.
UM, THE, HAS THERE BEEN A TRAFFIC STUDY? NOT DURING COVID, PREFERABLY DURING, WHEN SCHOOL IS IN SESSION.
UM, I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE ALSO.
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THAT.
WHY WERE THERE NO SIGNS POSTED ON THE PROPERTY? NORMALLY THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE SIGNS POSTED AT THE PROPERTY THAT A PUBLIC HEARING WAS GONNA BE HELD AND THAT WASN'T DONE.
UM, ALSO WE HAVE A VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT AND IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE WORKFORCE AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS GOING ON, YOU CAN'T GET PEOPLE TO COME TO WORK, LET ALONE VOLUNTEER TO DO SOMETHING.
SO I'M SURE HAVING ANOTHER 70 UNITS FOR THE FIREMEN TO TAKE CARE OF OR AN ADDITIONAL GROUP IF THEY COME IN AND BUILD A PHASE TWO, THAT'S MORE AND MORE STRESS ON THESE VOLUNTEERS.
THEY CAN'T HANDLE ALL OF THAT.
UM, THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO BRING UP, WHAT HE BROUGHT UP, THE
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AMAZON HOUSING THAT, OH, THIS WOULD BE GREAT FOR PEOPLE WHO WORK AT AMAZON.AMAZON IS SUPPOSED TO BE AUTOMATED.
THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE 30 PEOPLE THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE WORKING THERE.
SO HOW ARE THOSE 30 PEOPLE ALL GONNA WANNA LIVE IN THESE APARTMENTS? THAT'S BALONEY.
THEY'RE GONNA COME FROM WHEREVER THEY LIVE AND COME AND LEAVE.
SO JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
AND THE TOWN IS GETTING LOPSIDED.
ALL THE APARTMENTS ARE ON ONE SIDE OF THE TOWN.
THAT'S JUST, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, SENSE TO KEEP PUTTING MORE AND MORE APARTMENTS ON OUR SIDE OF THE TOWN.
IT'S MORE AND MORE STRESS FOR OUR ROADS AND EVERYBODY AROUND.
BEFORE WE CALL UP OUR NEXT SPEAKER, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO RESPOND TO THE ISSUE ABOUT SIGNS.
THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT JUST CAME TO MY ATTENTION.
WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT THOSE SIGNS ARE PUT OFF AND THAT THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS CONTINUED, UH, LONG ENOUGH SO THAT YOU'LL HAVE EVERYBODY WILL CERTAINLY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD.
I LIVE AT 41 65 GLEN WILLOW DRIVE IN HAMBURG.
AND UH, LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER SPEAKERS HAVE SAID, I WAS KIND OF SHOCKED TO SEE THIS PROJECT COME UP 'CAUSE I WAS HERE, UH, FOR THE OTHER PROJECT THREE YEARS AGO AND I SAID, WHAT'S DIFFERENT NOW? DIFFERENT BOARD MEMBERS, DIFFERENT MONEY.
WHAT'S THE SITUATION? SO HOW COME THAT PROJECT GOT PUT PUT OFF, BUT THIS ONE'S OKAY TO GO FORWARD.
UM, JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED BY THAT.
I FIRST LEARNED ABOUT THIS PROJECT IN THE HAMBURG SUN WHERE I SAW THE ARTICLE ABOUT TALKING ABOUT THE REZONING.
AND I THINK IT MENTIONED IN THERE THAT THE TOWN BOARD AGREED THAT IF THIS PROJECT GOES FORWARD, BASICALLY THAT'S THE END OF THE BUSINESS PARK.
THAT THIS ISN'T THE ONLY PIECE OF PROPERTY IN THIS BUSINESS PARK.
UM, I BELIEVE THERE'S THREE OTHER VACANT PIECES OF PROPERTY.
SO ONE'S, ONE FALLS, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER TWO ARE GONNA FALL AND IT'S GONNA BE IN THE SAME CATEGORY.
THERE'S GONNA BE APARTMENTS, IT'S GONNA BE THE SAME TYPE.
THE OTHER THING THAT I FOUND INTERESTING IS THAT BURKE REZONED THE PROPERTY IN 2006 TO ALLOW TRACTOR SUPPLY TO COME IN.
THEN HE WANTED TO REZONE IT TO ALLOW THE OTHER PROJECT TO GO FORWARD.
HE DIDN'T HAVE TO REZONE IT BECAUSE THE CAR WASH WENT IN THERE AND NOW HE WANTS TO REZONE IT AGAIN.
SO IT'S LIKE HE'S FLIP-FLOPPING.
WHO'S GOT THE MONEY? WHO'S GONNA PAY ME? WHO'S GONNA DO IT? THAT JUST MAKES NO SENSE.
I KNOW OTHER PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT THE BIG THING I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE SAFETY OF OUR KIDS.
I HAVE THREE KIDS IN THAT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, A FIVE-YEAR-OLD BOY, A THREE-YEAR-OLD BOY, AND MY LITTLE GIRL JUST WENT TO KINDERGARTEN.
I LOOKED AT THE ORIGINAL PLAN AND THE BACK OF THESE APARTMENT BUILDINGS IS 50 FEET OFF THE PROPERTY LINE 50 FEET.
THIS WALL TO THAT WALL IS PROBABLY 50 FEET, PROBABLY EVEN MORE THAN 50 FEET.
THAT'S HOW CLOSE THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX IS GONNA BE TO OUR KIDS.
I LOOKED UP ON THE INTERNET, IT SAYS THERE'S 525 STUDENTS K THROUGH FIVE AT BIG TREE ELEMENTARY, 1,375 AT THE HIGH SCHOOL.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 1900 CHILDREN, YOUNG ADULTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE WITHIN A PROXIMITY OF THIS BUILDING.
I MEAN, I DON'T CARE WHETHER IT'S HIGH END HOMES, LOW END HOMES.
THIS ISN'T 1950 ANYMORE WHERE PEOPLE ARE ALL HAPPY GO LUCKY.
LIKE WE'RE IN A DAY WHERE THERE'S PEDOPHILES, THERE'S SICKOS, THERE'S DRUG USERS, THERE'RE DRUG ABUSERS 50 FEET AWAY FROM OUR KIDS.
YOU CANNOT ALLOW ANY SORT OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT NEXT TO A SCHOOL.
YOU KNOW, MY KIDS ARE GOING TO SCHOOL AND THEY'RE DOING LOCKDOWN DRILLS, THEY'RE DOING ACTIVE SHOOTER DRILLS.
SECOND FLOOR BALCONY OF A, OF A PROPERTY 50 FEET AWAY.
SEEMS LIKE A PRETTY GOOD TARGET SPOT.
I HATE TO SAY THAT, BUT LIKE THAT'S THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION.
THESE PEOPLE ARE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE FINANCIAL WELLBEING OF THEIR THESE CLIENTS.
DO THEY HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY THE RENT OR DO THEY MAKE IT LOW ENOUGH MONEY SO THAT THE GOVERNMENT WILL PAY FOR 'EM? BUT ARE THEY DOING A BACKGROUND CHECK? NO.
WHO IS MOVING INTO THESE APARTMENT COMPLEXES WHO YOU DON'T KNOW? THEY'RE GONNA SAY, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT GUY WAS A PSYCHOPATH.
YOU'RE GOING TO SAY, I DIDN'T KNOW HE WAS A PSYCHOPATH.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY IS WE'RE TAKING THAT RISK.
WE'RE PUTTING 1900 KIDS AT RISK.
FOR WHAT? FOR SOME MORE TAX MONEY.
WHAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN OUR FUTURE IS OUR KIDS.
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IS RIDICULOUS.IT'S NOT A MATTER OF IF, IT'S A MATTER OF WHEN, BECAUSE AT THESE APARTMENT COMPLEXES, IT'S GOING TO BE A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE THERE'S A DOMESTIC, BEFORE THERE'S A DRUG OVERDOSE, BEFORE THERE'S A SHOOT, BEFORE THERE'S SOMETHING.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE IF IT'S GOING TO BE WHEN AND WHO'S GONNA HAVE THEIR BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS? NOT ME, YOU GUYS AND THEM.
THANK YOU DAVID STELEK, HOW YOU DOING? MY NAME'S DAVE STELEK.
UM, I'M DIRECTLY RIGHT IN THE BACKYARD OF, UH, FRONTIER HIGH SCHOOL.
EVERYBODY ELSE PRETTY MUCH STOLE MY THUNDER.
UM, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY THE UH, THE HIGH SCHOOL, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF NEW BUSINESSES.
WOODY'S IS THERE, HASN'T TAKEN OFF YET.
AMAZON HASN'T DONE ANYTHING YET.
WHAT ABOUT THE BOATING WITH THE SENIOR CENTER, THE BALL DIAMOND, ALL THAT OTHER STUFF THAT COMES IN AND OUT OF THERE ALL THE TIME.
UH, JUST COMING BACK FROM A FRIEND'S HOUSE DURING RUSH HOUR.
THERE WERE FIVE CARS THERE THAT I HAD TO WAIT.
ONE GUY PULLED HER OUT RIGHT IN FRONT OF SOMEBODY 'CAUSE THEY WERE ON THE PHONE NOT PAYING ATTENTION.
WHAT ABOUT THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS? PEOPLE ARE GONNA USE BUSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THERE'S TRYING TO CROSS THAT PLACE DURING, UH, WINTERTIME, DARK EARLY, NO WALKWAYS.
GET INTO THE BUS STOP ACROSS THE STREET AND NO MATTER WHAT WAY YOU GO, YOU KNOW YOU'RE GONNA BE PUTTING PEOPLE AT RISK NO MATTER WHAT INCOME THEY ARE.
AND IT'S NOT ABOUT THE INCOME, IT'S ABOUT THE PROXIMITY.
I'M ALSO WORRIED ABOUT, I SEE ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE, I DON'T KNOW, WALK FROM THE FRONTIER BECAUSE IT CUTS RIGHT THROUGH WHEN THE, THE LIGHTS GO ON AND THE ON THE FOOTBALL FIELD, MY FRONT YARD LIGHTS UP.
I SEE ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE WALKING THROUGH THERE.
WHO'S GONNA BE WANDERING FROM THOSE BUILDINGS TO THE PLAYGROUND AT ANY GIVEN TIME.
LAST TIME I WAS HERE FOR THE OTHER PROJECT, UH, THE FIRE CHIEF, UH, BIG TREE, THE BIG TREE FIRE CHIEF CAME IN AND SAID, WE CAN'T TAKE ANY MORE BUILDINGS.
WE'RE OVER CAPACITATED AS IT IS.
AND AGAIN, I AGREE WITH EVERYBODY ELSE, IT'S LOPSIDED.
YOU'RE PUTTING ALL THE RESIDENTS AT RISK.
AND ALSO, I DON'T KNOW WHY, PEOPLE JUST IN FRONT OF, YOU KNOW, 500 FEET GOT NOTIFIED.
IT AFFECTS EVERYBODY UP AND DOWN.
IN ADDITION, THERE'S ONLY SIDEWALKS ON ONE SIDE.
THERE'S PEOPLE WALKING UP AND DOWN BOTH SIDES THERE.
SO, YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THERE'S SNOW AND THE BANKS ARE SIX FEET HIGH AND PEOPLE CAN'T LOOK IN AND OUT OF THERE.
WHAT ABOUT FOOTBALL GAMES OR GRADUATIONS OR, YOU KNOW, WHEN MY KID HAS HIS LITTLE CONCERT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THERE'S PEOPLE GOING IN AND OUTTA THERE ALL THE TIME.
YOU KNOW, AGAIN, ALSO WITH THE SCHOOLS, WHO'S PAYING THE TAXES FOR ALL THESE EXTRA KIDS? I MEAN, THEY'RE OVER, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR TEACHERS RIGHT NOW.
IT'S REALLY HARD FOR, YOU KNOW, I'M WORRIED ABOUT MY KID.
YOU KNOW, ERIC BROUGHT UP A REALLY GOOD POINT.
IS IT POSSIBLE? THAT'S IT? LIKE I JUST GOT MY KID A CELL PHONE BECAUSE HE'S GOING TO MIDDLE SCHOOL.
'CAUSE ALL THE OTHER STUFF I'M WORRIED ABOUT MY KID JUST GOING TO MIDDLE SCHOOL SO THERE'S AN EMERGENCY CONTACT LINE.
I DON'T WANNA HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT MY KID IN GRADE SCHOOL RIGHT NEXT TO THERE.
UM, ANYBODY SEEING IT? I, I DON'T THINK IT, IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAPPEN, BUT YOU NEVER KNOW.
I THINK IT'S BETTER TO BE PREPARED AND, YOU KNOW, PUT SOME STORAGE UNITS THERE.
THERE'S OTHER WAYS TO, TO MAKE MONEY.
UM, SEE, WHAT ELSE DO I GOT HERE FOR YOU? I WAS ALSO HERE LAST TIME.
THERE WERE, I DON'T KNOW WHY THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE.
I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT, BUT LAST TIME THERE WERE FLYERS OUT, WE GOT MULTIPLE FLYERS.
THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE.
A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT HIM.
I, I SAID, OH, YOU GO INTO THE BOOK, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I LIVE RIGHT NEXT TO THE PARK.
A LOT OF PEOPLE DID WEREN'T EVEN AWARE OF THIS.
SO, YOU KNOW, I I JUST THINK IT'S TERRIBLE THAT THEY ONLY SEND IT OUT 500 FEET FROM PEOPLE.
HALF THE NEIGHBORHOODS DIDN'T EVEN GET IT, YOU KNOW, AND I'M TELLING EVERYBODY ABOUT IT.
THAT'S JUST UNFAIR TO ALL THE REST OF THE RESIDENTS THAT IT AFFECTS.
A LOT OF GREAT POINTS HAVE BEEN MADE, SO I'M NOT GONNA REHASH 'EM ALL.
SO I'LL JUST STAND MY 2 CENTS.
I DO THINK THERE'S AN OVERABUNDANCE APARTMENTS IN OUR SECTION OF TOWN.
UM, I DO HAVE TRAFFIC CONCERNS, ESPECIALLY PULLING AUTO O'REILLY ON SOUTHWESTERN, AS THEY SAID ABOUT PEOPLE WALKING DOWN RILEY, IT'S NOT THE MOST FORMED STREET FROM A STRAIGHT POINT.
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BURDEN, NOT TAXES.MY KIDS AREN'T IN SCHOOL ANYMORE.
I'M PROBABLY LOOKING AT A FIXED INCOME SOONER THAN LATER
SO I'LL BE CONCERNED WITH THAT.
SO I DO REALLY THINK ALL THE POINTS THEY MADE, I REITERATED AND I THANK YOU SIR.
UM, I HAVE LIVED IN THE LI WILLOW RUN NEIGHBORHOOD, ALSO KNOWN AS THE BUCKINGHAM NOTTINGHAM NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE 1999.
AND TRAFFIC ON SOUTHWESTERN HAS ALWAYS BEEN BAD.
IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN A DANGEROUS STREET, BUT THE DANGER HAS INCREASED DRASTICALLY DUE TO THE GENERAL INCREASE OF HAMBURG'S TRAFFIC FLOW WITHIN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
WITHIN A HALF A MILE, WE NOW HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS, APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND NUMEROUS BUSINESSES SHARING A BUSY BOULEVARD THAT SERVES AS A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE IN HAMBURG.
IT IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO TURN INTO OR OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND APARTMENTS.
THERE IS A TURNING LANE, BUT AS ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS SAID, IT IS LIKE PLAYING A GAME OF FROGGER, GETTING INTO AND OUT OF IT.
THE NEED FOR TRAFFIC CONTROL IS UNAVOIDABLE.
AND THE LITERAL LAST THING THAT SOUTHWESTERN BOULEVARD AND HAMBURG NEEDS IS ANOTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX WITHIN HALF A MILE OF THOUSANDS OF OTHER RESIDENTS.
IF YOU TOOK HALF AN HOUR TO WATCH THE INTERSECTION OF SOUTHWESTERN AND RILEY, YOU WOULD INSTANTLY SEE THAT THE INTERSECTION POSES GREAT DANGER TO EVERY SINGLE MOTORIST ON THE ROAD, NOT JUST THOSE LIVING IN THE AREA.
I CAN ONLY DESCRIBE IT AS CHAOS AND ANARCHY INTERCEDING WITHIN A HALF MILE DISTANCE.
IT IS TERRIFYING TO WATCH AND IT AFFECTS EVERY SINGLE PERSON DRIVING DOWN SOUTHWESTERN.
THERE IS AN IMMENSE SAFETY HAZARD POSTED ON THIS SEC SECTION OF SOUTHWESTERN AND HAMBURG AND SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE TO RECTIFY THE PROBLEM, NOT ADD TO IT.
FURTHERMORE, I KNOW SOME OF US TRY TO PRETEND THAT THERE AREN'T RATS IN THIS TOWN, BUT THERE ARE PERIOD ADDING MORE DUMPSTERS, MORE RESIDENTS, MORE COMPLEXES, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
IS AGAIN, NOT SOLVING THE PROBLEM, BUT IN FACT DOING THE EXACT OPPOSITE.
I BEG YOU TO PLEASE GIVE THIS DECISION.
ITS FULL DUE BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION.
PLEASE FULLY CONSIDER HOW THIS IMPACTS THE RESIDENTS OF THIS TOWN AND THEIR SAFETY.
UH, I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE TRAFFIC SITUATION.
UM, I WAS HERE IN 2019 WHEN HIS FIRE WAS GOING TO HAVE THIS, UH, PROPERTY REZONED AND A NEIGHBOR AND I WENT THROUGH THE PROPERTIES, UH, NEARBY TO SEE WHAT THE TRAFFIC WOULD BE.
AND UH, SO THE LISTED THE THREE LISTED IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT I'LL EXPLAIN.
UM, WE WENT, COUNTED THE NUMBER OF HOUSING UNITS IN EACH.
WE ALSO TOOK NOTE OF THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES IN EACH DRIVEWAY AND CAME UP WITH AN ESTIMATE OF FOR EACH NEIGHBORHOOD.
BASED ON THIS INFORMATION WE CALCULATED FOLLOWING AVERAGE TRAFFIC VOLUMES IF SAID VEHICLES ENTERED BAYVIEW ROAD AND ON ONE ROUND TRIP PER DAY.
UH, THIS TIES IN WITH THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT ARE, UH, PLANNING ON BUILDING.
HOW MANY MORE CARS WOULD BE THERE BASED ON ONE TRIP PER VEHICLE PER DAY.
THE UNITS OF HOUSING, AVERAGE NUMBER OF VEHICLES PER UNIT, NUMBER OF VEHICLES IN THE SUBDIVISION, ONE ROUND TRIP DAY AND TRAFFIC VALUE.
AND THE BERKELEY SQUARE NEIGHBORHOOD IS 213 TIMES ONE AND A HALF VEHICLES PER UNIT EQUALS 320 VEHICLES FOR THAT SUBDIVISION TIMES TWO, WHICH MEANS TRAFFIC VOLUME OF 640.
NOW POLY LANE, MISTY MEADOW AND TOWERS NEIGHBORHOOD, 99 UNITS TWO AND A HALF, UH, WOULD BE NUMBER OF VEHICLES ON SUBDIVISION 237 BY TWO IS 474 YESHIVA.
UH, SHARON DALE, GLEN WILLOW, AND ROBIN CHISHOLM.
BRYAN AREA 277 TIMES THREE EQUALS 831 TIMES TWO IS 1,662 OF TRIPS.
AVERAGE NUMBER OF VEHICLES PER DAY FROM IMMEDIATE SUBDIVISIONS BASED ON ONE ROUND TRIP PER VEHICLE PER DAY.
NOW THIS ESTIMATE WAS WHEN I WAS HERE FOR THE EXPIRE.
SO IT PLUS OR MINUS A FEW WAS TWO 2,776.
AGAIN, THESE FIGURES ARE BASED ON ONLY ONE ROUND TRIP PER DAY.
SOME PEOPLE MAY TAKE ONE OTHER, PROBABLY TAKE MORE THAN ONE.
MY CONCERN IS THE TRAFFIC COMES DOWN BAYVIEW AND OR COMES FROM RILEY OR BAYVIEW AND ALSO GOES THROUGH, UM, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BERKELEY SQUARE BECAUSE THE ENTRANCE THE OTHER WAY GOING TO SOUTHWESTERN
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IS, IS HARD TO TURN.UM, THE OTHER TRAFFIC TRAFFIC VOLUME ABOVE, BEYOND THE TRAFFIC FROM THE THREE IMMEDIATE SUBDIVISIONS IS FRONTIER HIGH SCHOOL, THE BIG TREE ELEMENTARY CAMPUS, ST.
FRANCIS HIGH SCHOOL INDIVIDUALS TRAVELING TO AND FROM WORK GENERAL, EVERYDAY TRAFFIC OF COMMUTERS USING THE BAYVIEW BIG TREE ROADS.
ALSO WITH THE NEW CAR WASH, THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE CARS COMING IN AND OUT OF THAT CORRIDOR, PLUS THE TRAFFIC GENERATED BY THE FEDEX AND SOON TO BE AMAZON.
UM, I ALSO HAVE A QUESTION IF THESE ARE, UM, LOW INCOME HOUSING OR NOT.
I COULDN'T HEAR THE GENTLEMAN SAY IF IT WAS OR NOT.
UH, HE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT FIGURE FOR AMAZON, UM, TYPE, UH, PAY I GUESS.
BUT, UM, THIS IS THE REASON I'M OPPOSED TO THE REZONING JUST BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC.
RECORD
I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADDRESS THE SAFETY ISSUE, THE TRAFFIC ISSUE.
UH, AS BEEN MENTIONED BY A NUMBER OF SPEAKERS.
THERE ARE TWO MAIN SCHOOL BUILDINGS RIGHT ALONG THAT ROAD.
BAY VIEW THAT IS, AND FRONTIER IS APPROXIMATELY 1500 STUDENTS.
PICK TREE ELEMENTARY IS PROBABLY LIKE FOUR OR 500 STUDENTS.
UH, THERE ARE 180 PARKING SPACES FOR SENIORS THAT AT THAT SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL AND APPROXIMATELY 20% OF THE PARENTS DRIVE THEIR CHILDREN TO AND FROM SCHOOL.
SO 20% OF 1500, THAT'S ANOTHER 300 PARENTS FOUR TIMES DAILY GOING, COMING AND GOING TO PICK 'EM UP, GOING AND LEAVING.
SO THAT'S ADDS TO THE TRAFFIC VOLUME.
THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 225 TEACHERS, ADMINISTRATORS, AND STAFF AT THE SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL.
THERE ARE 80 BUS DRIVERS WHO AGAIN TRAVEL FOUR TIMES A DAY, TWICE GOING IN THE MORNING AND LEAVING AND THEN COMING BACK IN THE AFTERNOON AND LEAVING.
THERE ARE 25 BUS MONITORS THAT COME AND GO FOUR TIMES DAILY.
UH, AT THE BIG TREE ELEMENTARY, THERE'S 79 TEACHERS, ADMINISTRATORS, AND STAFF THAT ALSO ADD TO THE TRAFFIC VOLUME.
SO BASED ON THAT ESTIMATE, DURING THE PEAK HOURS, THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 1,274 VEHICLES ENTERING AND LEAVING ON, UH, BAYVIEW ROAD DURING THE COURSE OF THE PEAK HOURS MONDAY TO FRIDAY.
AND AS MY NEIGHBOR MENTIONED, IN THE THREE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORHOODS, THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 600 HOUSING UNITS AMONG THOSE THREE MAIN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ALSO HAD VALUE.
UH, BAYVIEW ROAD IS A NARROW TWO, TWO LANE ROAD, UH, WITH VERY SMALL SHOULDERS.
A NUMBER OF THE STUDENTS WALK OR THEY BIKE TO SCHOOL.
THAT ALSO PUTS THEM EVEN IN FURTHER DANGER WITH ONLY SIDEWALKS ON THE NORTH PART OF THE NORTH SIDE OF BAYVIEW ROAD.
AS BEEN MENTIONED, THE POLICE AND FIRE CALLS ARE GOING TO BE INCREASED BECAUSE OF THAT.
UH, AS MENTIONED BEFORE, ALSO BIG TREE FIRE CHIEF WAS HERE AT THE LAST PROPOSAL AND THEIR TAXED ENOUGH NOW WITH THE NUMBER OF CALLS THEY'RE ANSWERED, THERE'S MORE APARTMENTS GOING UP IN THAT WHOLE IMMEDIATE AREA THAT THEY'RE GONNA COVER OR THEY HAVE TO COVER.
AND THAT'S GOING TO ADD A BIGGER PROBLEM.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE OBVIOUSLY GONNA HAVE MORE CALLS.
THE SENIOR SENATE SENIOR CENTER ON RILEY ROPE, THERE'S OVER 200 SENIORS PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAMS. AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF PROGRAMS GOING ON DAILY JUST IN OUR RIDE HERE.
THERE WAS PROBABLY A, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS A SOFTBALL GAME OR A SOCCER GAME AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, AND THERE WERE LIKE 20 VEHICLES PARKED OFF THE ROAD ON THE GRASS ON RILEY STREET.
AND AGAIN, THE SENIORS EVERY DAY ON A DAILY BASIS, PLUS THE NORMAL TRAFFIC GOING IN AND OUT OF BIG TREE ROAD.
AND THE SURROUNDING ROADS IS ALSO GONNA ADD TO THE DANGER.
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WITHIN A MILE AND A HALF OF THAT PARTICULAR AREA.NOT ONLY ARE WE GONNA BE KNOWN AS WITH ALL THE HOUSING AND APARTMENTS IN THE AREA, WE'RE ALSO GONNA BE KNOWN IN THAT AREA AS THE CAR WASH AREA OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG.
EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE A CLEAN CAR WITHOUT A DOUBT.
AND LAST OF ALL, AND I'M SURE YOU ALL ARE AWARE OF, YOU PUT YOUR LIFE IN YOUR HANDS EVERY TIME YOU HAVE TO COME ONTO SOUTH PARK OR SOUTHWESTERN FROM THAT IMMEDIATE AREA, WHETHER IT'S BAYVIEW, WHETHER IT'S RILEY AND RILEY, I SHOULD ALSO REMIND YOU, IS A WINDING ROAD.
IT'S NOT A STRAIGHT LINE OF SIGHT AND THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS AT ALL AT RILEY.
AND PEOPLE DO WALK AND STUDENTS DO WALK ON RILEY ROAD AND YOU TAKE YOUR LIFE IN YOUR HANDS EVERY TIME YOU WALK ON RILEY ROAD BECAUSE THE LINE OF SIGHT IS ABSOLUTELY HORRENDOUS.
AND IN A WINTERTIME IT'S EVEN WORSE.
SO I I ASK YOU TO TAKE THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE CONSIDERATIONS OF THE OTHERS THAT SPOKE BEFORE ME AND VOTE THIS DOWN.
I LIVE AT 4,001 ESSEX PLACE IN HAMBURG.
BEING NEXT TO LAST ON THE LIST, THERE ISN'T MUCH MORE I COULD SAY TO TRY TO CHANGE THEIR MINDS, BUT I'M GONNA TAKE A DIFFERENT APPROACH.
I'M GONNA LOOK AT THE FACT THAT ALL THESE APARTMENT COMPLEXES ARE COMING IN, THESE BUILDERS IN DEVELOPERS, THE TOWN IS RECEIVING MORE MONEY.
EVERY TIME SOMEONE PUTS SOMETHING TOGETHER, THEY RECEIVE A BIGGER TAX TAX BASE.
MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, WHY ARE MY TAXES ALWAYS GOING UP? OKAY, I, I'VE LIVED HERE FOR 22 YEARS AND I THINK MY TAXES WENT DOWN ONCE AND IT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE I HAVEN'T PAID.
SO WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU IS THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL ON BUCKINGHAM AND SOUTHWESTERN BOULEVARD IS IMPORTANT.
DO SOMETHING FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE.
ALSO, YOU'RE ALLOWING THESE PEOPLE TO COME IN AND BUILD THESE MONSTER BUILDINGS AND PUT UP ALL THESE APARTMENTS AND CREATE ALL THESE POTENTIAL PROBLEMS, BUT YOU'RE NOT REALLY HELPING US OUT EITHER, YOU KNOW, THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX DOES NOTHING FOR ME.
I DON'T HAVE YOUNG CHILDREN IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
UM, SO I'M NOT, IT'S NOT THAT I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE, BUT I'M SAYING FOR MYSELF, I'M BEING A LITTLE SELFISH HERE 'CAUSE EVERYBODY ELSE WAS TALKING FOR EVERYBODY.
IF YOU'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING FOR THEM, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO SEE DO, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU DO SOMETHING FOR US.
ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO BE HEARD FROM THE BOARD EVENING BOARD.
ROBIN LANE, HAMBURG, NEW YORK.
FIRST OF ALL, I'M NOT GOING THROUGH THE TRAFFIC DEAL.
BUT JUST TO ADJUST, ADDRESS THIS GENTLEMAN IN THE SUIT ABOUT THE AMAZON BUILDING.
AMAZON IS A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING AND THE LANDSCAPING IS GORGEOUS, BUT IT'S TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY EMPTY.
THEY CANNOT GET THE LITTLE CHIPS TO GROW TO MAKE THE ROBOTS WORK, SO THEREFORE THERE'S NOBODY WORKING THERE TO AFFORD YOUR APARTMENTS.
SO THAT BEING SAID, ALSO, I'VE BEEN IN MY HOUSE FOR 43 YEARS ON ROBIN LANE AND I HAVE NEVER SEEN SUCH A DISASTER OF DEVELOPMENT.
IT APPEARS TO ME LIKE EVERY INCH OF GREEN SPACE FROM CAMP ROAD TO SOUTH PARK, ALL OF OUR LITTLE HOUSES AND DEVELOPMENTS THERE, EVERY GREEN SPACE IS AVAILABLE.
YOU'RE KNOCKING IT DOWN JUST LIKE US.
WE LIVE AT THE END OF ROBIN LANE WHERE NOBODY KNEW ABOUT THIS GAS LINE THAT Y'ALL PUT IN, KNOCKED DOWN ALL THE TREES FROM ROBIN LANE TO SHIVA LANE OVER THERE IN ROUNDTREE VILLAGE.
WE HAVE HAD CRANES AND TRACTORS AND, AND BULLDOZERS UP AND DOWN OUR STREET AND ESPECIALLY IN FRONT OF THE FOUR OF US WHERE THEY'RE OUR HOUSES.
'CAUSE WE LIVE DOWN THERE AND NOBODY SAID A WORD TO US AND IT'S A MESS.
AND WHO'S GONNA CLEAN IT UP? Y'ALL GONNA PLANT MORE TREES AND GRASS OR IS IT JUST GONNA BE A FAIRWAY NOW FOR ALL ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO BRING THEIR TRUCK, THEIR BAJA TRUCKS AND THEIR FOUR WHEELERS FROM, FROM, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT DOWN TO US.
YES, I'M AGGRAVATED, BUT 43 YEARS I'VE ENJOYED MY HOUSE.
IT'S BEEN QUIET, IT'S BEEN PEACEFUL.
I NEVER HAD TO WORRY ABOUT MY KIDS.
NOW THAT'S ALL I HEAR NOW IS THE TRAFFIC FROM SOUTHWESTERN,
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THE TRAFFIC FROM CAMP ROAD, THE SIRENS, WHEN THERE'S AN ACCIDENT ON SOUTH PARK OR SOUTH PARK AND SOUTHWESTERN, YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE HOW LOUD THOSE SIRENS ARE.YOU PEOPLE SHOULD SPEND A WEEKEND IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THESE POOR POLICE OFFICERS AND THE AMERICAN, UH, AMBULANCE PEOPLE, THEY ARE STRESSED BEYOND WITH ALL OF THE CRAP THAT'S GOING ON UP THERE.
AND NOW YOU WANT TO ADD MORE ON TOP OF IT AND RAISE ALL THE TAXES.
I'M VERY SORRY PEOPLE, BUT SINCE I'VE LIVED THERE, THERE'S PROBABLY BEEN 12 PEOPLE WHO LIVED THERE AS LONG AS I HAD A ROBIN LANE WHO HAVE MOVED BECAUSE OF THIS KIND OF STUFF, AND ME AND MY HUSBAND ARE THE NEXT ONES.
ANYONE ELSE? LITTLE 4 0 0 2 ESSEX PLACE.
I'D LIKE I ASK THIS, TELL HIM ON THE QUESTION THAT GAVE THEM.
ALL RIGHT, I'LL ASK YOU, I GUESS, WHAT'S THE INCOME OF THESE PROPERTY PAY? HOW MUCH IS YOUR RENT GONNA BE? I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
OH, YOU DIDN'T DISCUSS THAT WITH THEM? NOBODY KNOWS.
I'M SURE SOMEBODY KNOWS, BUT I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION AT MY DISPOSAL RIGHT NOW.
ALRIGHT, LET'S GET BACK TO THE GAS LINE.
GOING ACROSS THE BACK OF BUCKINGHAM.
THAT'S A PRETTY STRONG BIKE THAT'S TELLING ME THERE'S GONNA BE A ROAD PUT IN THERE AND YOU COULD TELL ME THERE ISN'T.
BUT I THINK THERE'S EVENTUALLY GONNA BE A ROAD FROM ROBIN LANE RIGHT DOWN AND IT'S GONNA MAKE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WORSE.
NOBODY WANTS TO PUT THE TRAFFIC LIGHT IN, GET THE LOCAL.
WHEN SHE W COUNCILWOMAN, SHE SHOT IT DOWN.
NOW SHE'S IN, SHE'S IN THE BIG HOUSE.
ALRIGHT, I DON'T LIKE ANYTHING THAT'S GOING ON HERE.
I SHOULD LEAVE IT ALL UP TO YOU PEOPLE.
THAT'S ALL I GOTTA SAY ABOUT THIS.
WHATEVER YOUR PREFERENCE COME UP BECAUSE OF MY DAY.
I'M DEFINITELY AFRAID OF NOW I DON'T, I THINK ANYONE BRING UP THE WILDLIFE ASPECT OF IT.
IF YOU GO THROUGH THERE EVERY DAY, THERE'S ALWAYS DEER IN THERE.
NOW, WHAT IS IT THE PROPERTY SIZE, 70 ACRES.
THE NUMBER OF DEER BED IN THERE EVERY DAY YOU PUSH THAT UP, THEY'RE GONNA BE RUNNING ACROSS, THEY'RE GONNA BE RUNNING ACROSS SOUTHWESTERN.
WE'RE JUST GONNA CAUSE MORE CAR ACCIDENTS.
YOU KNOW, I HATE TO PULL THE PETER CAR GUY CONSERVATIONIST, BUT YOU'RE PUSHING ALL THESE DEER AROUND.
THERE'S GONNA BE MORE ACCIDENT, IT'S GONNA BE A MESS.
AND TELL ME, I TELL LIKE I'M A FATHER, TWO SMALL KIDS, SO WE'RE ALL WORRIED ABOUT THEM.
TODAY'S SICKLE SOCIETY, PLEASE DON'T HOLD ON.
GOT ANYWHERE ELSE? WE'RE NOT HERE.
CAN WE JUST GET YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD JUST TO MAKE SURE? MICAH, M-I-C-A-H 4 3 8 5.
WE RECEIVED A LOT OF COMMENTS TONIGHT OBVIOUSLY, AND A LOT OF PASSION.
UH, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS.
SUPERVISORS ALREADY SAID THIS HEARING IS GONNA BE CONTINUED.
UH, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GONNA PROVIDE SOME ANSWERS IN WRITING TO THE QUESTIONS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED AND, AND CONTINUE WITH THE NEXT HEARING.
SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION.
NOW, KATHY, DO WE YEAH, WELL YOU'RE GONNA CONTINUE FOR NEXT MEETING.
QUESTION
ARE THEY ASKING FOR THE WHOLE SET, THE WHOLE PROPERTY TO BE REZONED NC OR JUST THEIR PROPERTY THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT TO BE RE SURE, SO WE'LL, WE'LL CERTAINLY BE ABLE TO PROVIDE MORE CLARIFICATION ON THAT.
UM, THE, THE APPLICANT, I BELIEVE IT WAS FOR THIS PROPERTY, THAT'S WHAT THEY PETITIONED THE PLANNING BOARD FOR.
THE PLANNING BOARD THEN RECOMMENDED THAT THE REZONING APPLIED TO THE CONTIGUOUS PARCELS,
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THE LEGALTHAT WOULD BE LIKE THE SOCKS,
RIGHT THEN WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHER PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE PROPOSED FOR, YOU KNOW, WHAT TYPE OF INDUSTRY.
SO I ASK YOU TO LOOK AT THAT ASPECT.
SO IF THERE'S NO FURTHER COMMENT, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS CLOSE THE, THE PUBLIC COMMENT, CLOSE THE NO, NO, WE'RE PUBLIC, WE'RE GONNA CLOSE THE MEETING.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO ADJOURN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THE, A PUBLIC HEARING WILL CONTINUE, UM, EITHER AT OUR NEXT TOWN BOARD MEETING OR THE ONE AFTER THAT.
AS LONG AS WE CAN GET THE SIGNS UP WITH THE APPROPRIATE NOTICE DUE TO FOLKS, A COUPLE MORE, UH, ANNOUNCED.
LIKE, ARE YOU GONNA SEND OUT NOTICE TO PEOPLE LIKE YOU DID LAST TIME SAYING, HEY, WHEN IT'S GONNA BE SO KNOWN, WHEN IT'S GONNA BE LIKE WE DID SO WE CAN ALL GATHER
SO WE DID PROVIDE NOTICE THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, THROUGH LEGAL NOTICES IN THE, I BELIEVE THE HAMBURG SUN AND THE BUFFALO NEWS AND IT, SO, SO WE HAVE PROVIDED THOSE, THOSE NOTICES.
SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEND ANYTHING OUT FOR THE ADDITIONAL HEARING THE SUN? WELL WE DID SEND THINGS OUT TO, TO THE FOLKS WITHIN INITIALLY RIGHT.
SO WE'RE REQUIRED TO SEND OUT THOSE NOTICES FOR, FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THE FOLKS THAT RECEIVED THOSE NOTICE.
I MEAN, IF, IF YOU'RE HERE, WE KNOW THAT, THAT YOU RECEIVED THAT.
SO, UM, THE FOLKS THAT WERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD DIDN'T SEE SIGNS ON THE PROPERTY.
THOSE ARE THE, THOSE ARE THE ONLY FOLKS THAT WERE MISSING.
SO WE'RE GOING TO PUT THOSE SIGNS UP, CATCH THOSE FOLKS AND WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE BOARD AT A FUTURE MEETING.
OKAY, SO WHEN'S THE NEXT MEETING? THAT'S ALL.
WELL I HAVE TO PUT UP THE SIGNS AHEAD OF TIME.
SO IT WOULD BE PUT MONTH TOMORROW, THEN IT WOULD BE LIKE THE NEXT MONTH.
NOTIFY THE NEIGHBORHOOD ONE MONTH NEXT MEETING.
YEAH, THAT'S, YEAH, IT'LL BE ON THE TOWN BOARD AGENDA.
IS THERE ANY WAY WE COULD GET A COPY OF WHAT THEY PROPOSED? WE GOT THE BIG MAP THERE.
CAN I GET A COPY OF THAT? IT SHOULD BE BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE, BECAUSE THIS PROJECT WAS ALREADY IN FRONT OF THE TOWN PLANNING.
BECAUSE THIS PROJECT WAS ALREADY IN FRONT OF THE TOWN PLANNING BOARD AND THEY'RE GIVING US THEIR FINAL DRAFT THAT THEY PRESENTED TO THE TOWN PLANNING BOARD.
IT SHOULD ALL ALREADY BE ON THE WEBSITE WITH THE TOWN PLANNING BOARD INFORMATION.
YEAH, SO IT'LL BE, YOU CAN PULL IT UP IN YOUR COMPUTER.
AND BY LEAVING THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN, IT ALLOWS YOUR FELLOW RESIDENTS TO SEND EMAILS AND WE CAN STILL TAKE THOSE EMAILS INTO CONSIDERATION IF THEY SHOW UP AT THE NEXT MEETING, WE CAN TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AS WELL.
SO IT REALLY IS BENEFICIAL THAT TO YOU MORE SO THAT IT STAYS OPEN LONGER.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU FOR COMING UP FOLKS.
OKAY FOLKS, WE'LL MOVE ON TO RESOLUTION NUMBER SIX.
WHERE IS THE TOWN OF HAMMERED?
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RECEIVED REQUEST FROM RICHARD MATTHEWS TO REZONE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 34 49 BIG STREET ROAD C TWO GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO NC BROOK COMMERCIAL GENERAL RESIDENCE DISTRICT IN ORDER TO ALLOW THE EXISTING HOME FOR THE PROPERTY TO BECOME CONFORMING AND WHEREAS ON JULY 20TH, 2022, THE TOWN BOARD REFERRED TO ZONING REQUESTED PLANNING BOARD FOR ITS REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION.AND WHEREAS ON AUGUST 17TH, 2020, DUE THE PLANNING BOARD FOR AN POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION AND REPORT TO THE DOWN BOARD NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED.
DOWN BOARD DOWN
SECOND MOTION MAY SUPERVISOR HOPE SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER FARRELL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED GARY COMING FOR, FOR THE RECORD, RESOLVE THE TOWN BOARD.
AUTHORIZED THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT TO PURCHASE THREE NEW AND UNUSED TRUCKS FROM WEST HER DODGE ONE 2020 2 2500 TRADESMAN CREW CAB $54,810 1 20 22 2500 BIG HORN FRUIT CAP AT SIX G THOUSAND $950.
1 20 22 4500 CREW CAB THAT INCLUDES THE ADDITION OF A DUMP BO BY BREW AND SPRING FOR TOTAL COST OF $80,800 WEST.
HER DODGE IS THE SOLE SOURCE VENDOR FOR THESE VEHICLES.
AS NO OTHER DEAL DEALER IS ABLE TO PUT IN ANY ORDERS.
FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT H TWO 6.51 AND DV 5 3 1.
SO MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER FARRELL.
OPPOSED? GARY, RESOLVE THAT THE TOM BOARD APPROVE THE APPOINTMENT OF SARAH E PAWLOWSKI TO THE VACANT FULL-TIME PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCHER POSITION.
PROBATIONARY EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER 25TH, 2022.
MS. PAWLOWSKI HAS MET THE CIVIL SERVICE REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS POSITION AND IS CURRENTLY ON THE CIVIL SERVICE LIST.
THIS APPOINTMENT IS SUBJECT TO ALL PRE CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO A PHYSICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL EVALUATION.
SALARY IS 24 52 PER HOUR AND FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT A 3 0 2 0 0.100 SOMO SECOND.
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER HOPE.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER FARRELL.
OPPOSED? CARRIE, GARY AND I BELIEVE MS. BKI IS HERE.
WE COME OUT UP, WE CAN CONGRATULATIONS.
SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO GET SARAH ON BOARD.
UH, SHE COMES TO US WITH A LITTLE BIT OF TRAINING EXPERIENCE AND SOME KNOWLEDGE AND, UH, SKILLSET THAT WE'RE EAGER TO PUT TO USE.
SO, UM, IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE LIFE EXPERIENCE IN OUR JOB AND WE'RE REALLY FORTUNATE TO HAVE SARAH, UH, JOIN US.
SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT OF THE MONTH WHEN SHE GETS JOIN US.
THE HENRY TOWN BOARD IS HEREBY APPROVE THE REQUEST BY NEWTON ABBOT FIRE COMPANY IN COR TO CONFIRM MEMBERSHIP UPON THE INDIVIDUALS AS FOLLOWS, GREG WALKER AND ISRAEL NAVARRO.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER FARRELL.
OPPOSED? CARRIED THE RESULT OF THE TOWN BOARD OF APPROVES MICHAEL EY IN THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE BIG TREE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY, INCORPORATED DURING THE YEAR 2022.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER C*****G.
TOWN BOARD DOES HEREBY APPROVE THE REQUEST BY LAKE SHORE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY IN CORBY TO CONFIRM MEMBERSHIP UPON THE INDIVIDUAL AS FOLLOWS.
ANNISE AVALON, CASEY 54 PUP BEACH DRIVE.
SECOND, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER VERELL.
WE RESOLVED THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES SENIOR PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCHER SEAN PRODY TO ATTEND THE FALL 2022 IN NEW YORK STATE 9 1 1 COORDINATORS CONFERENCE.
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FOR OCTOBER 18TH THROUGH 20TH, 2022 FROM 7:30 AM TO 4:00 PM AT THE HOLIDAY VALLEY RESORT IN VILLE, NEW YORK.THE COST TO ATTEND IS $150 FOR REGISTRATION AND THE USE OF A TOWN VEHICLE IS REQUESTED.
FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT A 3 0 2 0 0.492 SOMO.
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER HOPE.
COUNCIL MEMBER ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
WE RESOLVE THE TOWN BOARD OF DETERMINATION HIRING OF THE FOLLOWING EMPLOYEES IN THE BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS DEPARTMENT AS LISTED.
THE TOWN BOARD OF AUTHORIZED NEWLY HIRED DIRECTOR OF YOUTH RECREATION AND SENIOR SERVICES.
JILLIAN GORMAN KING SIGNED PURCHASE SERVICE TOWN VOUCHERS, REQUEST FOR SUPPLEMENTAL AND OR BUDGET TRANSFERS PAYROLL INPUT SHEETS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF YOUTH RECREATION AND SENIOR SERVICES.
A OPPOSED GARY? HERE IS ALL THAT JOHN CLERK BE AUTHORIZED TO ADVERTISE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON PROPOSED LOCAL LAW NUMBER 9 20 22.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROPOSED LOCAL LAW IS TO PROVIDE WRITTEN PROCEDURES FOR USE OF VIDEO CONFERENCING FOR THE CONDUCT OF TOWN BOARD MEETINGS, PLANNING BOARD MEETINGS, AND ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS MEETINGS.
THE HEARING IS TO BE SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 26TH, 2022.
WHERE THE HAMBURG TOWN CODE CONTAINS AND SPECIFIES THE LOCAL LAWS AND ORDINANCE DONALD HAMBURG AND WHERE THE HAMBURG CODE REVIEW COMMITTEE HAS EVALUATED THESE REGULATIONS BASED ON CURRENT TRENDS AND THE NEED FOR A MIXED USE ZONING IN DISTRICT.
AND WHERE IS THE HAMBURG CODE REVIEW COMMITTEE AGREED WITH THIS NEED AND REFERRED THE DRAFTING IN THIS NEW MIXED USE ZONING DISTRICT TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR COMPLETION.
AND WHEREAS AMBER PLANNING BOARD CREATED FIRST DRAFT OF THIS MIXED USE, PEL IN TOWN'S PLANNING CONSULTANT HAS COMPLETED THIS DRAFT OF THE LAW AND HAS SUBMITTED IT TO THE TOWN BOARD FOR ITS CONSIDERATION.
AND WHEREAS PURSUANT TO HOME RULE LAW, THE TOWN BOARDS PROPOSED TO ENACT THE LOCAL LAW AS FOLLOWS, BE ENACTED BY THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, NEW YORK, THE, THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD OF MEN'S, THE HAMBURG TOWN CODE AS FOLLOWS.
AND THEN CHAPTER TWO 80 BY ADDING A NEW ARTICLE ENTITLED MIXED USE ZONING DISTRICT ONE NOW THEREFORE BEING RESOLVED PURSUANT TO PART 6 1 7 6 NYC, ARTICLE EIGHT OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION LAW.
THAT IS THE INTENT OF THE TOWN OF AMBER TOWN BOARD TO ESTABLISH ITSELF AS SECRET LAING AGENCY AND CONDUCT A COORDINATED REVIEW OF PROPOSED REVISIONS OF JOHN CO.
WE HAD FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE HEMBRY TOWN BOARD SETS A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT AT THE HAMBURG TOWN HALL.
HE NEW YORK AT 7:00 PM ON 10 17 22.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER FARRELL HALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
WHEREAS THE HAMBURG TOWN CODE CONTAINS AND SPECIFIES THE LOCAL LAWS AND ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG AND WHEREAS THE HAMBURG CODE REVIEW COMMITTEE HAS EVALUATED THESE REGULATIONS BASED ON CURRENT TRENDS AND THE NEED FOR MIXED USE ZONING DISTRICT.
AND WHEREAS THE HAMBURG TOWN CODE REVIEW COMMITTEE AGREED WITH THIS NEED AND REFERRED THE DRAFT INTO THIS NEW MIXED USE ZONING DISTRICT TO THE PLANNING BOARD'S COMPLETION.
AND WHEREAS A HAMRICK PLANNING BOARD CREATED A FIRST DRAFT OF THIS MIXED USE CODE IN THE TOWN'S PLANNING CONSULTANT HAS COMPLETED THIS DRAFT OF THE LAW AND HAS SUBMITTED IT TO THE TOWN BOARD FOR ITS CONSIDERATION.
AND WHEREAS PURSUANT TO HOME MUNICIPAL HOME RULE LAW THAT TOWN BOARD IS PROPOSING TO ENACT A LOCAL LAW AS FOLLOWS.
HE HAD ENACTED BY THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, NEW YORK, BUT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD AMEND THE HAMBURG TOWN CODE AS FOLLOWS.
FULL COPIES ATTACHED THEN CHAPTER TWO 80 BY ADDING A NEW ARTICLE ENTITLED MIXED USE DISTRICT ONE NOW THEREFORE ALL PURSUANT TO 6 1 7.
AND SO THE PUD OH A IT'S A REVIEW BUT WITHOUT THEM.
BUT THE RESOLUTION READS THE SAME.
IT'S THIS ONE'S SUPPOSED TO ALSO CALL FOR, FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT IT'S JUST THAT THE TEXT IS YEAH.
WELL WE COULD CALL FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING NEXT.
WHERE WE ABOUT THE DESCRIPTION.
JUST CALL FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE JUST PUSHING OFF KATHY, FULL DESCRIPTION.
CAN WE CALL HER PUBLIC HEARING OR DO YOU HAVE IT THERE? I DON'T HAVE IT.
YOU CAN CALL A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO, UM, WE WILL, UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND RESOLUTION 17 TO, UH, CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE UH, PUD AMENDMENT.
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BY SUPERVISOR.WHEREAS NEW YORK'S DOWNTOWNS ARE THE HEART AND SOUL OF OUR REGIONS.
THEY ARE BOTH A REFLECTION OF OUR PAST AND A CATALYST FOR FUTURE GROWTH AND REVITALIZATION.
THEY ARE CENTERS FOR COMMERCE, CULTURE, DIVERSITY, ENTREPRENEURIALSHIP, IDEAS AND ENTERTAINMENT.
AND WHEREAS GOVERNOR HO HAS MADE DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION A CENTRAL COMPONENT OF THE STATE'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POLICY, THE DRI AND NEW YORK FORWARD WILL ACCELERATE AND EXPAND NEW YORK'S BURGEONING DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION.
AND WHEREAS TO ACCELERATE THAT MOMENTUM, GOVERNOR HO ANNOUNCED TO COMPLEMENTARY DOWNTOWN REDEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS. ROUND SIX OF THE DRI FUNDED AT $100 MILLION AND THE FIRST ROUND OF NEW YORK FORWARD, A NEW PROGRAM THAT TARGETS DOWNTOWN'S.
NEW YORK, SMALLER AND RURAL COMMUNITIES ALSO FUNDED AT $100 MILLION.
THE OVERARCHING GOALS OF THE TWO PROGRAMS ARE TO REVITALIZE DOWNTOWNS AND REINVIGORATE LOCAL AND REGIONAL ECONOMIES BY CREATING A CRITICAL MASS OF VIBRANT DOWNTOWN DESTINATIONS IN EACH REGION.
NEW YORK FORWARD DIVERGES IN SEVERAL ASPECTS TO REACH AND SERVE THE UNIQUE NEEDS AND CHARACTERISTICS OF THE STATE'S SMALLER AND RURAL COMMUNITIES.
AND WHEREAS THE GATEWAY VILLAGE REVITALIZATION IN INITIATIVE IS TARGETED AT THE INTERSECTION OF SOUTH PARK AVENUE AND LAKE AVENUE AND INCLUDES SIGNIFICANTLY UNDERUTILIZED AND DISTRESSED COMPONENTS OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG AND THE VILLAGE OF BLAZE DOW.
MOREOVER, THE GATEWAY VILLAGE REVITALIZATION INITIATIVE WILL FOCUS ON THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE IDENTIFIED DRI AND NYF AREA, WHICH WILL INCLUDE BUT IS NOT LIMITED TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION, MAIN STREET IMPROVEMENTS, STREETSCAPING COMMUNITY SPACES, PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLIST INFRASTRUCTURE, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, COMMERCIAL REUSE, AND BROWNFIELD REMEDIATION.
THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS STRATEGICALLY FOCUSED ON THE REVITALIZATION OF THE PRIMARY, PRIMARY ECONOMIC CORRIDOR BETWEEN THE SOUTH TOWNS COMMUNITIES AND THE CITY OF BUFFALO.
ADDITIONALLY, THE PROPOSED PROJECT WILL SIGNIFICANTLY ENHANCE THE ABILITY OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG AND THE VILLAGE OF BLAZEDALE TO IDENTIFY AND ESTABLISH THE MULTI-AGENCY AND PUBLIC-PRIVATE SECTOR PARTNERSHIPS NECESSARY TO LEVERAGE ASSISTANCE AND INVESTMENTS.
NOW THEREFORE, IT IS HEREBY RESOLVED AS FOLLOWS, THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZE EECG CONSULTING LLC TO PREPARE AND SUBMIT THE DRI AND NYF GRANT APPLICATIONS TO THE REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL, REDC AND BE A FURTHER RESULT THAT IF A GRANT IS AWARD THE TIME, HAMBURG WILL COMMIT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AND FULL IMPLEMENTATION OF THE GATEWAY VILLAGE REVITALIZATION INITIATIVE.
ADDITIONALLY, THE TOWN OF HAMBURG WILL DESIGNATE BECG CONSULTING LLC TO MANAGE THE PROJECT ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG.
WE RESOLVED THE TOM BOARD APPROVED THE TERMINATION, THE HIRING OF PERSONNEL FOR THE YOUTH RECREATION AND SENIOR SERVICES DEPARTMENT AS FOLLOWS, NOTE THE FOLLOWING, LIFEGUARDS ARE BEING REINSTATED DUE TO SEASONAL STATUS ERROR.
ISABELLA DE MAYO, EMILY HALL, CONNOR O'BRIEN, JACKSON, KY AND MAGGIE.
TRIP MOTION COUNCIL MEMBER HALL.
BE RESOLVED OF TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZED SUPERVISOR HOPE TO SIGN CERTIFICATION STATEMENT FOR SPONSORS OF DAYCARE CENTERS FOR THE FEDERAL FISCAL YEAR 2022 TO 2053.
THIS ALLOWED ADULT DAY SERVE PROGRAM TO PARTICIPATE IN CHILD AND ADULT CARE FOOD PROGRAM THROUGH THE NEW STATE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER FERRELL.
OPPOSED? GARY, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONSIDER A LATE RESOLUTION CONCERNING THE, UH, CLOCK TOWER CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HOPE.
WHEREAS THE TOWN BOARD AT THE TOWN OF HAMBURG AWARDED TO URBAN ENGINEERS THE DESIGN WORK, REHABILITATION OF THE TOWN CLOCK TOWER, RURAL AREA DAMAGED BY STORMS AND WHEREAS IT HAS BEEN DETERMINED BY THE NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION THAT THEY WERE REQUIRED WITH THE RULE PLANS AND ISSUANCE OF THE NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION WORK PERMIT PROJECT AND WHEREAS ITS WORK WAS NOT PART OF THE ORIGINAL RFPN PROPOSAL AND THEREFORE REQUIRES AUTHORIZATION OF A SUPPLEMENTAL REQUEST, THEREFORE BEING RESOLVED BASED ON RECOMMENDATION.
THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZE A SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT FOR, UH, $16,528.
FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN A 1440 0.456 POINT 400.
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FAVOR AND SAY AYE.WE RESOLVED THE TUM BOARD APPROVED THE AUDIT OF CASH.
CASH DISBURSEMENTS FOR SEPTEMBER 12TH, 2022.
TOTAL DISBURSEMENTS SUBMITTED FOR AUDIT $2,164,155 AND 67 CENTS.
SECOND, MY COUNCIL MEMBER HOPE.
NOW OPEN THINGS UP FOR BUSINESS FROM THE FLOOR.
LOOKS LIKE ALL OUR GUESTS HAVE LEFT ANY BUSINESS FROM THE FLOOR.
REPORTS FROM DEPARTMENT HEADS WILL START TO MY RIGHT.
NOTHING TO REPORT FINANCE, NOTHING TO REPORT YOUTH REC AND SENIOR SERVICES.
IT'S BEEN A REALLY FUN FIVE DAYS.
UM, WE'RE STARTING THE INTERVIEW PROCESS AND WE HOPEFULLY BE UP TO PULL MORE BY MID TO END OF OCTOBER.
I HAVE CARD
UM,
SO I'M GONNA START WITH COMMERCE DRIVE ON THE CAMP.
SO HOPEFULLY WEDNESDAY AT THURSDAY THIS WEEK.
UH, WE'RE IN
SCHOOL TAX BILLS WERE PICKED UP TODAY SO PEOPLE WON'T BE RECEIVING THEM.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO THANK EMERGENCY SERVICES POLICE DEPARTMENT NINE 11.
REMEMBRANCE CEREMONY WAS FANTASTIC.
UM, THEY HAD TO PIVOT WITH THE WEATHER, UM, AND EVERYTHING CAME TOGETHER REALLY NICELY.
SO APPRECIATE YOU GUYS DOING THAT.
UM, THE ONLY OTHER THINGS THAT I HAVE, UM, IS THE HAMPER COALITION FOR EQUITY AND INCLUSION IS HOSTING A PANEL DISCUSSION AND SCREENING AT BERT COLLEGE.
UM, IT'S A NETFLIX DOCUMENTARY CALLED CRIP CAMP, AND WE HAVE PARTNERED WITH ABOUT A DOZEN OTHER AGENCIES THAT ARE INVOLVED IN ADVOCACY AND RESOURCES FOR PEOPLE WITH INTELLECTUAL AND DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES.
UM, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A REALLY GREAT DISCUSSION.
WE HAVE, UM, THE TWO CO-FOUNDERS OF THE ART OF ADVOCACY.
UH, BJ STASIO IS ONE OF THEM AS OUR PATRIOT SPEAKERS.
UH, THAT'S GONNA BE WEDNESDAY, STARTING AT SIX O'CLOCK.
SO I INVITE ANYBODY TO ATTEND.
UH, I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE THAT PARTICIPATED AND PLANNED YESTERDAY'S NINE 11 REMEMBRANCE.
IT, IT WAS, UM, IT WAS A WONDERFUL EVENT AND IT HAS ALWAYS GOOD.
WE NEED TO BRING OUR COMMUNITY TOGETHER, UM, TO, UH, SHOW RESPECT AND HONOR SUCH IMPORTANT COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHILE ALSO REMEMBERING THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE DAY.
ALSO REMEMBERING, UM, THOSE WHO ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS STILL CONTRIBUTE IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR POLICE, SOUTH FIREFIGHTERS.
AND IT WAS INCREDIBLE TO SEE ALL OF THEM ASSEMBLED YESTERDAY AND IT WAS A VERY MOVING, UM, AND, UH, TERRIFIC, UM, UH, COMMEMORATION OF, OF THE DAY YESTERDAY.
AND THAT JUST WANNA ECHO THE SAME SENTIMENTS AS THE REST OF THE BOARD.
WHO ORGANIZED THE EVENT YESTERDAY FOR THE SEPTEMBER 11TH MEMORIAL REMEMBRANCE.
IT WAS, UM, BEST DESCRIBED, I THINK AS REFLECTIVE AND POWERFUL ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
I KNOW THE BOY SCOUTS WHO WERE ALL IN ATTENDANCE WERE QUITE TAKEN WITH THE ENORMITY, THE DECIDES, AND I HELPED BRING TO LIGHT REALLY AN EVENT THAT THEY HAVE ONLY HEARD STORIES OF.
THEY DIDN'T LIVE AND THEY DON'T APPRECIATE SOMETIMES THE IMPACT UNTIL THEY HEAR THE FIRSTHAND STORIES.
SO I THANK YOU ALL FOR TAKING THE TIME AND SHARING WITH THE YOUTH OUR FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCES AND THE FIRST RESPONDERS FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCES SO THEY CAN APPRECIATE HOW IT HAS REALLY SHAPED AND MOLDED OUR, OUR COUNTRY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR EFFORTS AND, UM, I'M JUST GOING TO ECHO MY COLLEAGUES.
AND GETTING EVERYBODY TOGETHER.
AND IT WAS GREAT TO REALLY HAVE A PIECE OF HISTORY FROM THE, UH, WORLD TRADE CENTER SITE, UM, WITH US, UH, YESTERDAY.
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IT WAS A, IT WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE.UM, DO WE NEED TO EXECUTIVE SESSION OR ARE WE GOOD? NO, I THINK WE HAVE SOME, AN ISSUE WE STILL NEED TO DISCUSS OF PENDING LED POSSIBLE LITIGATION IN EXECUTIVE SESSION THAT WE NEED TO FINISH DISCUSSING.
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER C*****G TO ADJOURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.