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          I 
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THANK 
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YOU FOR JOINING US THE EARLY TODAY. 
          UM, SO I SET ASIDE 90 MINUTES FOR OUR BUDGET DISCUSSION AND UH, AND THEN AT SIX O'CLOCK WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM, UH, TYLER CLINIC FROM ENTER ENTERPRISE FOOD MANAGEMENT. 
          UH, AND JUNIOR RILEY IS GONNA PRESENT FROM SIX 30 TO 6 45. 
          UM, WE MAY NOT NEED THE FULL 90 MINUTES TODAY. 
          UH, IF WE DON'T, THEN WE HAVE PLENTY TO TALK ABOUT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          UM, BUT WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS AT LEAST START THE CONVERSATION ON THE BUDGET. 
          I THOUGHT A GOOD PLACE TO START WOULD BE A DISCUSSION ABOUT REVENUES. 
          UM, AS PAT WILL TELL YOU, UH, MORE MATERIALLY, THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE REALLY CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THEIR ARE FIXED COSTS. 
          THEY ARE CONTRACT CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS. 
          UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE PORTION OF THE BUDGET, WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT LOT SMALLER THAN MOST PEOPLE WOULD LIKELY THINK. 
          THOSE OF USUALLY HAVE DONE PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS BEFORE. 
          UH, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT FOR SURE. 
          UM, BUT THE REVENUES, I LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THOSE JUST TO GET, SO YOU CAN HAVE A SENSE OF, OF WHAT WE PUT INTO THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET. 
          I PREFER TO DEFERRED NEGOTIATING AND TALKING ABOUT THOSE REVENUES TODAY UNTIL WE HAVE A CHAD CHANCE TO DIGEST THOSE AND TAKE A LOOK AT, AT THE EXPENSE SIDE. 
          UM, AND THEN SEE IF WE MIGHT WANNA MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS. 
          BUT TODAY WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHERE THOSE NUMBERS ARE AND WHAT WENT INTO THOSE. 
          I'D ALSO LIKE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU AS BOARD MEMBERS WOULD, WOULD LIKE. 
          WHAT CAN I DO TO HELP WITH THIS BUDGET PROCESS FROM NOW UNTIL NEXT MONDAY? WHAT INFORMATION ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? IS THERE CONCERNS, UH, FROM YOUR DEPARTMENTS? I DO KNOW THAT SOME OF YOU HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH THE, THE, THE DEPARTMENTS THAT YOU ARE LIAISON TO, UH, DISCUSSING THE, THE BUDGET. 
          UM, PLEASE CONTINUE TO DO THAT. 
          IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY YET, UH, MIGHT BE WORTH A CALL TO THE DEPARTMENT HEAD. 
          UM, AND THEN, UH, IF INDIVIDUALLY YOU'D LIKE TO MEET WITH ME OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT WEEK OR THE FOLLOWING WEEK, I'D BE HAPPY TO SCHEDULE SOME TIME TO MEET IN THE OFFICE ON ZOOM OR WHATEVER BEFORE WE GET INTO 
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THE BUDGET DISCUSSION. 
          UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I, SO THE, UH, REVENUE SIDE ON THE BUDGET, UM, SOME OF OUR, THE, THE BIGGEST, UM, REVENUE STREAMS WOULD BE COMING FROM OUR SALES TAX REVENUE, WELL, CERTAINLY OUR PROPERTY TAX REVENUE. 
          UM, THAT IS THE, THE LAST PIECE OF REVENUE THAT WE TALK ABOUT BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE THE, UH, THE INCREASE TO, TO ALL THE EXPENSES. 
          BUT ASIDE FROM THAT, WE'RE LOOKING AT, AT SALES TAX, WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT PIECE OF OUR BUDGET. 
          WE'RE LOOKING AT MORTGAGE, UH, TAX, MORTGAGE RECORDING TAXES, UM, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, FEES FROM PROGRAM. 
          I THINK THE BIGGEST CHUNK, UH, WOULD COME FROM OUR, OUR RECREATION DEPARTMENT AS FAR AS SPEEDS THAT THE TOWN TAKE IN. 
          UM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO, TO START US OFF ON, ON WHERE WE ARE WITH, UH, WHAT WE PUT INTO THE, UH, UH, SALES AND MORTGAGE TAX? SURE. 
          WHAT, WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS GATHER AS MUCH INFORMATION, BOTH HISTORICAL AND FROM THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, TO GIVE US A BASIS TO TRY AND COME UP WITH WHAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BE A REALISTIC APPROACH TO, UH, PUT TOGETHER THOSE REVENUES. 
          IN ADDITION, RANDY AND I WENT TO SUPERVISOR ROUND TABLE THAT HAD 10, 15 DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES REPRESENTED WAS, IT WAS RUN BY DRIFT, MKI. 
          AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT MEETING WAS JUST THE OVERALL CAUTIOUS APPROACH THAT THEY WERE RECOMMENDING TO TAKE WHEN IT COMES TO REVENUE, ESPECIALLY THE MORTGAGE TAX. 
          SO RIGHT OFF THE BAT, ONE OF THE BIGGEST PIECES OF OUR REVENUE WE'RE BEING TOLD, WELL, YOU REALLY BETTER BE CAREFUL DON'T BUDGET. 
          ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WAS DON'T EVEN BUDGET ANY INCREASE. 
          JUST PLAY IT SAFE AND BUDGET WHAT YOU THINK YOU'RE GONNA GET FOR THIS YEAR AND JUST MOVE IT FORWARD. 
          UM, SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID. 
          AS FAR AS THE MORTGAGE CHECK, AGAIN, IT'S A HUGE PIECE OF OUR OVERALL REVENUE. 
          WHAT WE WERE, WHAT WE TRIED TO DO WITH THE HISTORICAL INFORMATION AND THE DEPARTMENT HEADS IS IT LOOKED LIKE THE DIFFICULTY GOING INTO AND COMING OUT OF COVID REALLY PLAYED A PRETTY BIG ROLE IN THE BUDGETS THAT WERE PRESENTED IN THE PAST, TO THE POINT THAT THERE WAS CERTAIN EXPECTATIONS OR HOPE THAT COMING OUT OF COVID, WE GET BACK TO PREVIOUS LEVELS IN PARKS AND RECREATION AND UH, ADULT SERVICES. 
          AND WE JUST HADN'T SEEN THAT. 
          SO IN SOME CASES WHERE IN THE PAST YOU'RE ABLE TO LOOK AT A BUDGET OF 20 TWO'S BUDGET AND SAY, WELL, MAYBE WE'LL BE CLOSE TO THAT SO WE CAN USE THAT NUMBER OR CLOSE TO THAT NUMBER FOR THE 23. 
          WHAT WE ARE SEEING WITH THE HISTORICAL DATA WAS WE'RE JUST NOT GETTING TO THAT LEVEL. 
          SO THAT WAS ANOTHER ASPECT THAT WE HAD TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT WHERE IN THE PAST WE WERE HOPING ON, SAY, 250 FOR A PROGRAM. 
          WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING EVEN APPROACHING 200 IN ACTUAL REVENUE. 
          SO WE WANTED TO TAKE THE CONSERVATIVE APPROACH AND GET MORE REALISTIC WITH WHAT WE THINK THE DEPARTMENT HAD SEE IN THE FUTURE, AS WELL AS WHAT WE ACTUALLY SEE IN THE NUMBERS AS OPPOSED TO WHAT THE HOPE WAS FOR THAT TRAJECTORY COMING OUT OF COVID. 
          UM, SO THAT OBVIOUSLY HURT WHEN YOUR MAIN SOURCE OF THE REVENUE YOU'RE BEING TOLD BE REALLY CAUTIOUS. 
          AND IN FACT, FOR OUR REC AND SENIOR SERVICES BUDGET LESS THAN WHAT WE'VE BUDGETED IN THE PAST. 
          SO WE ARE COMFORTABLE THAT THE NUMBERS WE HAVE ARE ATTAINABLE. 
          WE'RE HOPING THAT BY BEING CONSERVATIVE AND BEING ABLE TO FULFILL MOST OF THE NEEDS THAT THE DEPARTMENT HEADS PUT WITH US, THAT AT THE END OF NEXT YEAR THERE MIGHT BE A SURPLUS. 
          BUT WE'RE NOT BANKING ON THAT. 
          WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET PEOPLE WHAT THEY NEED WITH THE CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE ON THE REVENUES THAT, THAT WE DO HAVE OR THAT WE THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER, UH, PIECE OF, OF REALLY REVENUE, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY THAT GOES INTO THE BUDGET WOULD BE OUR USE OF, OF FUND BALANCE. 
          CORRECT. 
          UM, SO WHAT WE DID BEFORE WE EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT USING FUND BALANCE, 'CAUSE WE'RE ALL CAUTIOUS AND CONSERVATIVE THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO USE YOUR SAVINGS ACCOUNT IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO. 
          THE 2021 FINANCIALS SHOWED OUR RATIO AT 16.4% THAT MEASURES YOUR AVAILABLE FUND BALANCE AGAINST YOUR YEARLY EXPENSES. 
          THE ACCEPTABLE OR STANDARD OR COMFORTABLE RATE IS SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN 12 AND 14%. 
          SO WE WERE ABOVE THAT GOING INTO 21. 
          UM, AS WE LOOK AT 20 TWO'S INFORMATION, IT'S REALLY HARD TO PUT TOGETHER A NORMAL FINANCIAL STATEMENT FOR THE TOWN. 
          'CAUSE THINGS ARE SO CYCLICAL AND THINGS COME IN AT CERTAIN TIMES OF YEAR. 
          AND THEN IF THINGS ARE BEHIND FROM A RECORDING STANDPOINT, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A TRUE PICTURE OF THIS IS OUR FINANCIAL POSITION AT SIX 30. 
          WE CAN SEE WHERE THE TRENDS LIE, AND THE TRENDS SEEM TO SHOW THAT WE'RE GONNA BE BANKING A NICE SURPLUS AT THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          SO THE 16.4 WAS A GOOD STARTING POINT. 
          AT 21, WE ARE LOOKING THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A SURPLUS AT THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          SO WE ARE LOOKING, 
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THAT IS A FURTHER POSITIVE TO BE ABLE TO JUSTIFY USING THE FUND BALANCE THAT'S IN THE BUDGET. 
          IT SEEMS CONSISTENT AND ACTUALLY LOWER THAN WHAT THEY'VE USED IN THE PAST. 
          UM, BUT IF WE HAD TO USE THE WHOLE THING, WE'D STILL BE IN A POSITION, WE THINK, TO BE IN THAT 12 TO 14 RANGE WITH FUND BALANCE. 
          THAT RANGE WAS GIVEN TO US BY, UH, THE BOND UNDERWRITERS, SO THAT WHEN PEOPLE COME TO LOOK AT OUR BOND RATING AND WHEN WE'RE GONNA GO TO BOND SOMEWHERE IN THE FUTURE, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY LOOK AT IS HAVING THAT ACCEPTABLE PERCENTAGE. 
          WHEN, WHEN I FIRST GOT IN, ONE OF THE THINGS HE DID SAY WAS THEY WERE CONCERNED THAT THE FUND BALANCE HAD BEEN GOING DOWN FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS. 
          IT WAS STILL OKAY, BUT AT THE END OF 21, WE SAW AN UPTICK TO GET US TO THAT 16.4. 
          SO AS LONG AS WE ARE COGNIZANT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING AND TRY TO STAY IN THAT ACCEPTABLE RANGE, WE SHOULD BE GOOD. 
          I WOULDN'T HOPE THAT WE'D HAVE TO BOND NEXT YEAR OR EVEN THE YEAR AFTER JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE CARPA FUNDS AT OUR DISPOSAL. 
          BUT IF WE DO DECIDE THAT WE WANT TO TAKE THE BOND GROUP, WE'D STILL BE FINANCIALLY STRONG WITH THAT RATIO LEFT THAT THEY DEEMED TO BE ACCEPTABLE. 
          ON THE EXPENSE SIDE, THE THINGS THAT YOU CAN NEVER BUDGET FOR ARE THE YOUNG UNFORESEEN INFLATION AND INCREASES BETWEEN UTILITIES AND GAS FOR THE VEHICLES. 
          WE HAVE TO BUDGET IN THIS BUDGET $620,000 MORE THAN WHAT WAS BUDGETED IN 2022. 
          SO I MEAN, RIGHT OFF THE TOP MORTGAGE CHECKS, THEY'RE SAYING, DON'T REALLY INCREASE ANYTHING. 
          OUR PROGRAMS ARE SHOWING LESS REVENUE, AND OH, BY THE WAY, GONNA PAY HALF A MILLION DOLLARS MORE IN UTILITIES AND FUEL. 
          SO THERE WERE SOME SERIOUS JUGGLING THAT WE HAD TO DO. 
          I THINK WE'RE, I KNOW WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE NUMBERS AND WE'RE HAPPY THAT WE, WERE BASICALLY ABLE TO GET, THE DEPARTMENT HAS MOST OF WHAT THEY NEED. 
          WHAT WE DID WHEN WE WENT INTO THE MEETINGS, IT'S A WHOLE NEED VERSUS WANT. 
          WE, WE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE WANT, BUT WE REALLY ASK FOR HELP TO TELL US WHAT YOU NEED. 
          AND I THINK IN ALMOST ALL RESPECTS, WE ARE AT LEAST ABLE TO GET THEM WHAT THEY NEED. 
          THERE'S CERTAIN WANTS THAT ARE THERE. 
          THAT'S WHERE OUR COMES INTO PLAY. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THE FUN BALANCE HAS TO COME INTO PLAY. 
          BUT AT LEAST THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN PLAN TOGETHER TO WORK ON THE FUTURE. 
          BUT WHEN WE FIRST, WHEN I FIRST CAME ABOARD, ONE OF THE THINGS I ASKED ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS WAS, GIVE ME YOUR WANTS AND NEEDS. 
          THEIR WANTS ARE IN EXCESS OF $30 MILLION. 
          WANTS ARE ROOF PAVING, HVAC. 
          SO ALL THOSE BIG TICKET ITEMS THAT REALLY HADN'T BEEN BROUGHT TO THE BOARD BEFORE, EASILY $30 MILLION WE COULD FUND IN THE COMING YEARS. 
          WHAT'S GOOD IS, WHAT I'VE ASKED 'EM TO DO IS THINK LONGER TERM. 
          WHAT DO WE NEED YEAR ONE, WHAT DO WE NEED THREE TO FIVE, WHAT CAN BE THE AFTERTHOUGHT? SO WE'RE TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER A REALLY GOOD PLAN OF THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE GONNA HAVE TO BE BILLED OR FUNDED. 
          HERE'S WHEN WE GUESS THEY'RE GONNA COME INTO PLAY. 
          BUT THE PROBLEM IS, SOMETIMES THOSE GUESSES, ROOFS LEAK. 
          SO WE'RE STILL RUNNING INTO SITUATIONS WHERE THEY'LL WALK IN AND SAY, PAT AND NEED 600,000. 
          THE B AND G ROOF IS LEAK. 
          I JUST DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER. 
          BUT IF WE CAN PUT THIS PLAN IN PLACE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE ARPA FUNDS, THEN WE'RE PREPARED TO SAY, WE'VE SET ASIDE THIS AMOUNT OF ARPA FOR THESE INFRASTRUCTURE PLANS. 
          WE THINK THESE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE GONNA COME IN FIRST, BUT IF ONES THAT ARE MARKED TO COME IN SECOND COME IN FIRST, AT LEAST WE STILL HAVE THAT FUND TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS. 
          AND SOME OF ARE PRETTY BIG, THE, THE ROOTS ARE 1.5 A PIECE. 
          THE TOWN HALL PARKING LOT WAS LIKE 750,000 TO PAY. 
          SO THEY'RE BIG NUMBERS THAT IF THEY JUST OCCUR, WE CAN'T ABSORB IT IN THE BUDGET. 
          BUT IF WE PLAN FOR IT, WE CAN. 
          AND ACTUALLY PART OF THAT, UM, 750 IN THE APPROPRIATED FUND IS TO SET ASIDE 250 JUST FOR THAT OUT OF THE BUDGET SAMPLE TO SAY THAT WE'RE CREATING THIS RESERVE SPECIFICALLY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          IF A ROOF LEAKS AND WE NEED $75,000, IT'S NOT BUDGETED, BUT WE CREATED A RESERVE TO AT LEAST COVER PART OF IT. 
          SO HOPEFULLY THAT'LL ALLEVIATE SOME OF THOSE EMERGENCY NEEDS, BUT THE MORE WE CAN PLAN FOR THOSE, THE BETTER. 
          AND I THINK THAT, UM, YOU'LL SEE AS YOU GO THROUGH THE BUDGET, THERE ARE SOME, UH, DEPARTMENT REQUESTS THAT, THAT WE'VE REDUCED. 
          UM, AND, AND I THINK WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT IN SOME DEPARTMENTS FOR, FOR A FEW REASONS. 
          UH, ONE IS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO, UH, BE, UM, MAKE SOME, UH, PERSONNEL MOVES THAT HAVE HAD A POSITIVE IMPACT, UH, ON OUR BUDGET SITUATION. 
          TWO, WE'RE HOPEFUL AND OPTIMISTIC THAT WE ARE GOING TO REALIZE SOME SIGNIFICANT 
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SAVINGS IN OUR VEHICLE ACQUISITIONS. 
          UM, IT'S TOUGH TO FIND VEHICLES. 
          UM, YOU'RE GONNA HEAR TONIGHT FROM, FROM ENTERPRISE ON, ON A SOLUTION THAT THEY HAVE FOR US THAT I THINK IS GONNA HELP US TO, TO FINANCE VEHICLES OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME, LESS UPFRONT COSTS, NEWER VEHICLES BETTER MAINTAIN SAFER FUEL EFFICIENCY. 
          BUT I'LL LET THEM SHARE THAT WITH YOU. 
          UM, THIS ISN'T, ISN'T A, A NEW PROGRAM, UH, IN ERIE COUNTY. 
          ERIE COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS HAS 400 VEHICLES IN, UH, ENTERPRISE, UH, FLEET MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. 
          SO WE'RE OPTIMISTIC THAT IN, IN THAT WAS REFLECTED IN IN THE BUDGET. 
          WE, WE DID REDUCE SOME OF THE VEHICLE ACQUISITION LINES. 
          UH, WE DID NOT REDUCE THE REPAIR AND THE MAINTENANCE LINES, WHICH WE WOULD, I MEAN, IF THIS IS SUCCESSFUL, MOST OF OUR VEHICLES WILL BE UNDER WARRANTY OF SOME KIND. 
          SO THAT WILL REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF, UH, WORK AND RESOURCES WE HAVE TO PUT INTO THEM. 
          UM, THERE'S ALSO, UH, THERE'S SOME INSTANCES WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO BRING IN GRANTS TO OFFSET THE, THE COST THAT WE OTHERWISE WOULD'VE BEEN IN THE BUDGET. 
          UM, AND THEN THERE'S BEEN SOME, SOME PERSONNEL MOVES. 
          UM, THE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER AT FRONTIER, FOR EXAMPLE, IS A SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S PERSONNEL BUDGET. 
          UM, THAT WAS A POSITION THAT, UH, CHIEF BRA, UH, WOULD'VE PREFERRED TO HIRE AN ADDITIONAL OFFICER. 
          CHIEF DI NUNS, UM, BELIEVES THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO MEET OUR, OUR OBLIGATIONS AND KEEP RESIDENT SAFE AND BENEFIT FROM THE ADDITIONAL SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER UNDER OUR CURRENT STAFFING MODEL. 
          UM, SO FRONTIER IS GONNA BE PAYING FOR 75% OF, OF ONE OF OUR POLICE OFFICERS, WHICH AT $160,000 PER POLICE OFFICER IS A SIGNIFICANT, UH, IMPACT ON OUR, ON OUR BUDGET. 
          UM, ON THE OTHER SIDE, UH, SOME COSTS THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE IN THIS BUDGET, UM, THERE ARE SOME, SOME NEW POSITIONS. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF HIRING A PERSONNEL SUPERVISOR. 
          UM, NOW WE ARE STILL WORKING ON, ON THAT, UH, I BELIEVE WE HAVE AN INTERVIEW THIS WEEK. 
          UH, BUT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, WE AGREED THAT WE WOULDN'T BE ADDING AN ADDITIONAL POSITION FOR THE DEPARTMENT. 
          FULL POSITIONS ARE IN THE DEPARTMENT NOW. 
          I LEFT IT THAT WAY BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ON, ON WHAT THE NEXT NORM IS GONNA BE. 
          SO THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR SOME SAVINGS IN THAT PAYROLL LINE. 
          UM, AND THERE IS ALSO, UM, SUPERINTENDENT HUGHES INCLUDED FOUR ADDITIONAL LABOR POSITIONS IN HIS BUDGET. 
          UM, IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF POSITIONS THAT'S, IT'S A BIG ADDITION TO OUR PAYROLL. 
          UM, I DIDN'T WANT TO, I THOUGHT IF, IF WE'RE GONNA SAY NO, UM, WE CAN SAY NO AS A BOARD. 
          IT MAKES A STRONG CASE. 
          UM, AND I'M SURE IT WILL HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU IN THE COMING WEEKS AS TO WHAT IMPACT THAT WOULD HAVE, ESPECIALLY ON OUR, OUR SNOW CLEARING CAPACITY. 
          UM, SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT I THINK THAT, UH, UH, WE, WE SHOULD LIKELY SPEND SOME TIME TALKING ABOUT OVER THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS. 
          BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO, TO OPEN IT UP TO YOU FOR ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR AREAS THAT WE WANNA FOCUS ON. 
          JUST A QUICK, UH, QUESTION HERE. 
          IT'S ON THE MORTGAGE. 
          UM, DID THEY TALK ABOUT POSSIBLY EVEN DECREASING, UM, AS A LINE ITEM? THEY SAID IT WOULDN'T BE OUT OF THE REALM OF NORMALCY TO DO THAT. 
          THEY WEREN'T SUGGESTING THAT BECAUSE THEY KNOW THE IMPACT OF IT AND THEY DIDN'T NECESSARILY WANT TO GO FULLY ON THE HOOK IF SOMEBODY DID REDUCE THEIR, BASED ON THEIR ASSUMPTION. 
          AND EVERYBODY THAT WAS AT THAT WAS A, A CLIENT OF DRESHER. 
          SO I'M SURE THEY DON'T WANNA RECOMMEND TAKING THAT DOWN AND THEN COME LATER IN THE YEAR THEY'RE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT. 
          SO IT WASN'T A PRETTY BROAD STROKE COMMENT, BUT THEY WERE DEFINITELY URGING THE SIDE OF CAUTION. 
          UM, JUST BECAUSE INTEREST RATES ARE HIGHER AND EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE SEEN COMING OUT OF COVID ISN'T PROJECTED TO STAY THE SAME. 
          WHAT WHAT WE DID IS BASED ON WHAT WE SAW THROUGH SIX 30 AND HOW WE KNOW THE MORTGAGE TAX PAYMENTS COME IN, WE'RE BASICALLY AT WHAT WE WOULD GET FOR 2022 IS WHAT'S BUDGETED FOR 2023. 
          SO WE DIDN'T LOOK AT 2020 TWO'S BUDGET AND SAY, WELL, WE'RE GONNA BASE IT OFF OF THAT. 
          WE WENT TO THE ACTUAL AMOUNTS THAT WE'RE GETTING THROUGH OUR SYSTEMS AND ARE ACTUALLY IN THE ACCOUNTING SYSTEM TO MAKE A JUDGMENT OF, WE THINK WE'RE GONNA BE AT $2 MILLION BY THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          WE'RE AT 1 8 5, I THINK. 
          SO WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO BE CONSERVATIVE, BUT NOT SO CONSERVATIVE THAT IT IMPACTED US ON, ON THE OTHER SIDE. 
          SO WE'RE HOPING IT'S REALISTIC. 
          AND I THINK WHAT, WHAT I, WHAT I NOTICE, AND I'D BE INTERESTED IF, UH, IF YOU GUYS HAVE THE, HAVE THE SAME THOUGHTS, UM, I MEAN, WHEN, WHEN YOU WERE WORKING IN THE 2020 BUDGET, I MEAN, WE WERE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF A PANDEMIC WITH A GREAT DEAL OF UNCERTAINTY, NOT KNOWING 
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IF THERE'S GONNA BE ANY FEDERAL BAIL BAILOUT FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. 
          UM, AND UH, FOR EXAMPLE, THE 2021 ADOPTED BUDGET FOR, FOR MORTGAGE DEBTS WAS, UH, A LITTLE BIT OVER 1.2 MILLION. 
          THE ACTUALS FOR 2021 WAS 1.9. 
          UM, SO, UH, I THINK WE'RE STILL KIND OF EVEN 2022 WAS, WAS A BIT CONSERVATIVE. 
          UH, RIGHT NOW WHERE WE WERE ADOPTED AT AT 1.6. 
          UM, IT'S, IT'S ESTIMATED AT AT 1.5, BUT I THINK THAT'S JUST A FUNCTION OF THE TIMING OF THE PAYMENTS. 
          SO, UM, WE'RE QUITE CONFIDENT AT THE, AT THE 1.81 MILLION, 850,000 IS WHERE WE'RE AT FOR, FOR MORTGAGE TAX. 
          WOULD IT BE HELPFUL JUST TO, I KNOW IN THE PAST, USUALLY WE'LL JUST GO THROUGH AND, AND TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, IN EACH AREA, WHAT SOME OF THOSE SIGNIFICANT INCREASES AND DECREASES ARE. 
          YEAH. 
          WHATEVER, WHATEVER WORKS. 
          WE'LL, JUST SO IT KIND OF WORKS THROUGH EVERYTHING JUST TO KNOW, BECAUSE I KNOW IN THE, IN THE PAST FEW YEARS, A LOT OF TIMES IT'LL LOOK LIKE SOMETHING HAS A, A LARGE INCREASE OR HAS A, A LARGE DECREASE IN WHAT IT REALLY WAS. 
          UM, AND I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT, THAT YOU PROBABLY SAW SOME, UM, THIS OCCUR THIS YEAR IF YOU PREPARED THIS BUDGET WITH, UM, SUPERVISOR IN THAT, UM, THINGS WERE JUST PUT UNDER DIFFERENT LINES. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IT WASN'T, AND SO IT HELPS US TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS THE THINKING WHERE WE MIGHT SEE A HUGE INCREASE OR DECREASE. 
          YOU KNOW, JUST IF WE HAD THE EXPLANATION, THEN IT'S KIND OF LIKE CHECK MARK OFF OF OUR, OUR LIST AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I THINK AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, YOU SEE SEVERAL AREAS WHERE, WHERE THAT IT REALLY HAS JUST BEEN COMMON PRACTICE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YOU KNOW, KNOWING, FINDING DEPARTMENT HEADS, KNOWING THAT WHERE THERE MAY BE A LITTLE BIT OF CUSHION IN THE BUDGET, AND AT THE END OF THE YEAR, IF THERE WAS A SHORTFALL IN OVERTIME OR PART-TIME OR A NEED FOR A CERTAIN TYPE OF EQUIPMENT, THEY COULD MOVE THINGS AROUND. 
          UM, THROUGHOUT OUR BUDGET MEETINGS, UH, WE, WE, WE SET THE EXPECTATION THAT THAT NEXT YEAR WE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THAT ACCOUNTING AHEAD OF TIME BEFORE THE EXPENSES ARE, ARE REALIZED SO THAT, UM, WHEN WE COME BACK TO, TO THE BUDGET TABLE, THEN WE'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT THE, WHAT THE TRUE NUMBERS ARE. 
          AND IT'S HELPFUL TO KNOW TOO, AS WE JUST GO THROUGH, YOU COMMENT ON, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, SOMETIMES WE'LL SEE A HUGE FLUCTUATION IN, UH, PERSONNEL RELATED LINES, AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SAY THAT'S ALL DUE TO, UM, CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION OR IT'S AN ADDED POSITION. 
          IT JUST HELPS US DISCERN, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE, WHAT THE, UM, RATIONALS MM-HMM . 
          BEHIND. 
          AND CERTAINLY IF WE DON'T HAVE THE TIME TONIGHT, TAKE IT HOME DIGEST EMAIL, PHONE CALL, SET UP A MEETING, WHATEVER, WHATEVER ANYBODY NEEDS TO GET COMFORTABLE. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. 
          I MEAN, RANDY AND I LEARNED A TON THROUGH THIS PROCESS, MEETING WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY DO, WHAT THEY REALLY NEED, WHAT THEY'VE DONE IN THE PAST. 
          AND WE WERE, I HOPE, FORCEFUL AND WHAT WE EXPECT MOVING FORWARD. 
          TO RANDY'S POINT, WE'VE ALREADY STARTED WITH 'EM ABOUT THE WHOLE BUDGET TRANSFER PROCESS. 
          THAT IF YOU'RE GETTING CLOSE TO YOUR LINE ITEM IN MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS, WE DON'T WANT YOU TO USE THE SUPPLY LINE COME TO US. 
          WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WAS THAT BUDGET TOO LOW? WHAT CAUSED YOU TO GET TO THAT POINT? WE'RE GONNA GET THE MONEY TO FIX THE CAR. 
          WE JUST NEED TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHERE IN THE PROCESS SOMETHING'S BEING MISSED. 
          THE, THE ONE THAT CAME UP WAS TIRES. 
          THERE'S A LINE FOR TIRES, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY TIRES THAT'S IN THERE. 
          SO HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU PREPARE A BUDGET FOR TIRES WHEN YOU'RE CHARGING THINGS THAT AREN'T TIRE RELATED? SO I THINK THEY UNDERSTOOD, BUT TO RANDY'S POINT, THAT WAS JUST THE ACCEPTABLE PRACTICE. 
          IF YOU'RE CLOSE AT ONE LINE, USE ANOTHER. 
          AND THEN WHAT WAS REALLY TROUBLING WAS THERE'S HEAT, LIGHT AND POWER TO A PERSON. 
          THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, IF WE RUN OUTTA MONEY, WE JUST KNOW CHARGE OF THE HEAT, LIGHT AND POWER. 
          SO THAT TO SET OFF RED, RED FLAGS 'CAUSE IT WAS SO HIGH AND IT'S GONNA BE SO HIGH. 
          AND THEN YOU START GOING TO LOOK AT THE DETAILED ENTRIES IN HEAT, LIGHT, AND POWER. 
          THERE'S CONTRACTOR STUFF, THERE'S SIGNAGE, THERE'S JUST A DUMPING GROUND OF CERTAIN THINGS THAT SHOULDN'T TECHNICALLY BE IN THAT LINE ON IT BE BECAUSE THEY'D KNOWN IN THE PAST, IT WAS ALWAYS OVER BUDGETED. 
          THEY COULD JUST THROW THINGS IN AND NOBODY'S THE WISER. 
          SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM TO MAKE THEM UNDERSTAND THAT DOESN'T REALLY HELP ANYBODY. 
          YOU GET YOUR WHAT YOU NEED. 
          OUR COMMITMENT, MY COMMITMENT IS WE'LL GET YOU WHAT YOU NEED. 
          YOU JUST HAVE TO WORK WITH US TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT NEED IS SO WE CAN PLAN FOR IT BETTER IN THE FUTURE. 
          SO HOPEFULLY COME NEXT YEAR, WE'LL HAVE A BETTER I IDEA OF WHAT'S SITTING IN MAINTENANCE AND SUPPLIES AND ALL OF THOSE LINE ITEMS. 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA TRY TO HOLD 'EM TO PUT IN THOSE BUCKETS AS I CALL 'EM, PUT IN THE BUCKET WHAT'S 
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SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE BUCKET. 
          IF YOU WANT A DIFFERENT BUCKET, THEN WE'LL CREATE THE BUCKET. 
          BUT IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT PEOPLE ARE CHARGING, IT'S REALLY HARD TO PLAN FOR WHAT THEY'RE GONNA CHARGE NEXT. 
          SO, UM, WE CAN START WITH, UM, I'LL START WITH THE, UH, WITH THE JOURNAL FUND. 
          UH, ON PAGE SIX. 
          UM, A LOT OF THIS, THIS, UH, WE'VE TALKED TO A LITTLE BIT ALREADY. 
          UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT A, UM, UH, TOTAL INCREASE ON REAL PROPERTY AND TAX ITEMS OF 339,000 AND CHANGE. 
          UM, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE DEPARTMENTAL INCOME AND FEES. 
          UM, WE HAVE, WE HAVE SOME, UH, DEVIATIONS FROM, FROM THE PREVIOUS BUDGET, BUT NOTHING THAT, THAT REALLY STICKS OUT. 
          THEN WE GO THROUGH MORE RECREATION PROGRAMS AND WE GO THROUGH OUR, UM, INTEREST ON, UH, ON INVESTMENTS, A LITTLE INCREASE THERE. 
          UM, AND THAT IS, IS MORE, THAT'S WHERE, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, THE, THE, WHAT'S THAT CALLED? THE SAVINGS, THE, UH, . 
          OH, THE, LIKE THE INVESTMENT. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO CURRENTLY WE TOOK THE STEP OF SEAN. 
          WE BRIEFLY TALKED ABOUT THERE'S TWO, THERE'S TWO AVENUES THAT MUNICIPALITIES HAVE WITH THEIR INVESTMENTS. 
          N CLASS IS BASICALLY, I REFER TO IT AS A GLORIFIED SAVINGS ACCOUNT WHERE THEY DO INVESTMENTS ON THEIR BEHALF. 
          MUNICIPALITIES BUY INTO THE OVERALL PLAN AND GET A HIGHER, UH, SAVINGS RATE. 
          BUT THE, THE MONEY IS TOTALLY LIQUID. 
          WE CAN PUT IT IN AND THEN TWO DAYS LATER TAKE IT OUT. 
          AND WE'RE REALIZING PROBABLY A FULL PERCENTAGE POINT IN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN IF IT'S SET AND M AND T VERSUS SIT SITTING AT I CLASS. 
          SO ALREADY JUST FROM WHEN WE STARTED IN AUGUST, WE'RE AT LIKE $50,000 IN INTEREST JUST BECAUSE MAKING THAT SIMPLE MOVE FROM M AND T TO ICLS. 
          AGAIN, THE BENEFIT IS THE HIGHER INTEREST RATE, BUT WE'RE FULLY LIQUID WE EVER WERE TO NEED THAT MONEY. 
          TWO DAYS LATER WE HAVE, THE SECOND IS WE'LL BE WORKING WITH M AND T TO LOOK INTO SOME OF THE TREASURY BONDS. 
          THE HESITATION THERE IS JUST REALLY GETTING OUR ARMS AROUND OUR TRUE CASH FLOW. 
          WE HAVE MONEY THAT CAN DEFINITELY GO INTO THOSE INSTRUMENTS. 
          IT'S REALLY JUST HOW MUCH DO WE WANNA GO INTO THOSE DIFFERENT ALLOCATIONS. 
          THREE MONTHS, SIX MONTHS, A YEAR. 
          UM, SO THAT'S NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS EVEN IF IT'S JUST A SMALLER PORTION, UH, I DON'T, I FEAR GETTING TOO AGGRESSIVE. 
          UM, BUT THERE'S STILL MORE OUT THERE THAT WE CAN BENEFIT FROM, FROM THE INTEREST ITSELF. 
          SO THAT'S THE, THE NUMBER WE HAVE IN THERE IS PROBABLY A CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE OF WHAT WE CAN EARN IN INTEREST. 
          UM, GOING ONTO PAGE EIGHT, UM, WE HAVE, WE HAVE SOME INCREASES IN OUR LICENSING AND PERMITTING. 
          THE MOST NOTABLE, UH, WOULD BE IN OUR, OUR BUILDING PERMITS. 
          THAT'S ABOUT A, A 10% BUMP. 
          UM, THEY'VE DONE A, UH, A VERY BUSY, BUSY OFFICE. 
          UM, UM, IN, IN 2021 FOR EXAMPLE, UH, THEY CAME IN AND AT $614,000 IN, IN REVENUE. 
          SO, UM, WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, THAT 500,000 NUMBER. 
          AND THAT COULD EVEN SUSTAIN A, A BIT OF A DECREASE. 
          UM, I THINK THE BIGGEST NUMBERS ON HERE, UH, YOU'LL FIND UNDER MISCELLANEOUS ARE SENIOR BAND DONATIONS. 
          AND WE CUT THOSE REVENUES CONSIDERABLY JUST BECAUSE, UM, THEY, THEY, THEY WEREN'T REALISTIC IN OUR OPINION. 
          UM, THE 2022 ADOPTED BUDGET CALLED FOR $68,000. 
          AND, UM, IN 2020, AGAIN, PANDEMIC YEAR 2021 CERTAINLY IMPACTS FROM PANDEMIC, BUT THEY DIDN'T EVEN BREAK 25,000 IN 2019, UH, WHICH WAS PROBABLY THE MORE REASONABLE YEAR FOR DATA. 
          IT WAS 44,000. 
          SO WE'RE GOING IN AT A, AT A CONSERVATIVE 40,000, UH, THE SENIOR DAYCARE. 
          UM, WE CUT THAT, THOSE REVENUES BY, BY AN OVER $75,000. 
          UM, I THINK EVEN IN THE BEST OF TIMES, UH, THE SENIOR DAYCARE, UM, WELL IN 2019 THEY CAME IN AT, UH, 263,000. 
          THE PANDEMIC WAS ROUGH AND THAT PROGRAM WAS CLOSED LONGER THAN ANY OF OUR OTHER PROGRAMS BECAUSE OF THE FRAILTY OF 
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THE POPULATION. 
          UM, AND, AND, AND THE TIGHT QUARTERS. 
          SO IN 2020 THEY BROUGHT IN 93. 
          IN 2021 THEY BROUGHT IN 127,000. 
          UM, SO, UH, IN 2022 WE BUDGETED 2 75. 
          UH, AND WE, WE'LL BE, WE'LL BE LUCKY TO, TO GET CLOSE TO 200, UH, THIS YEAR. 
          UH, BUT THAT'S GONNA BE OUR GOAL FOR NEXT YEAR. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S SOME THINGS WE CAN DO TO HELP THEM, UH, GET CLOSE TO THAT GOAL. 
          AND, AND WE'RE, WE'RE HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH, UH, DIRECTOR GLOWING KING ON THAT AS WELL. 
          I THINK THAT IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO OUR TOWN BOARD'S PHILOSOPHY, UM, BECAUSE WE CAN MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THESE, THESE PROGRAMS BREAK EVEN OR MAKE A PROFIT IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO. 
          BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO USE INFLATED REVENUE PROJECTIONS, THEN WE'RE NOT DOING ANYBODY ANY FAVORS WITH THAT. 
          UM, SO I THINK COMING IN AT, AT THESE ESTIMATES IS A RECOGNITION THAT THESE ARE PROGRAMS THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY GOING TO BE MAKING A PROFIT. 
          UH, AND THEY MAY NOT EVEN BE BREAKING EVEN. 
          UM, WE CAN RECOGNIZE THAT AND WORK TOWARD THAT GOAL. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE NOW. 
          AND SO, AS WE MENTIONED, UH, MORTGAGE TAX IS AT THE, AT THE BOTTOM THERE. 
          WE DID INCREASE OUR, OUR PROJECTIONS ON MORTGAGE TAX. 
          UH, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING TO TO STAY CONSISTENT WITH 2021 AND 2022, WHICH IS JUST SHY OF, OF 2 MILLION. 
          SO, UH, EVEN IF WE DO HAVE, UM, CLOSE TO A 10% DIP, UH, WE SHOULD BE OKAY. 
          UM, AND THEN THE, UH, INTER FUND REVENUES, UM, PAT, CAN YOU HELP ME OUT HERE ON THIS? ALL THOSE REPRESENT ALL OF THE, LIKE THE GOLF COURSE, ALL OF THE SECONDARY ENTERPRISES THAT WE HAVE IN THE TOWN. 
          UM, SOME OF THAT WAS SIMILAR TO THE SENIOR DAYCARE WHERE THERE WAS QUITE A BIG HOPE THAT THINGS COMING OUT OF THE, OF COVID WOULD BE, UM, HAVE HAPPENED AT A QUICKER PACE. 
          WE JUST HAVEN'T NECESSARILY SEEN THAT. 
          BUT WE CAN STILL HOPE FOR THE BEST. 
          BUT AGAIN, WE DIDN'T WANNA OVERESTIMATE AND THEN HAVE THAT COME BACK ON US IN NEXT YEAR. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE, UM, UNDER APPROPRIATE FUND BALANCE, UH, WE REDUCED THAT JUST, JUST SITE SLIGHTLY FROM WHAT WE USED LAST YEAR. 
          UH, IT'S A DECREASE. 
          BUT WITH OUR OPTIMISTIC OUTLOOK, WE'RE, WE'RE OPTIMISTIC THAT, UH, THAT THE BUDGET WILL BE ABLE TO HANDLE THAT. 
          SO JUST A QUICK QUESTION ON THE, THE ICE ARENA. 
          THE, THERE WAS A DECLINE IN 57,000 UP IN THE SECTION , WE JUST WEREN'T SEEING IN THE ACTUALS THINGS BEING RECORDED AS PERTAINING TO THE ARENA. 
          SO IT'S IN A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE NOT REALLY SURE WHAT THEY'RE RECORDING, WE'RE NOT SEEING ANYTHING THAT WOULD'VE SUPPORTED THOSE NUMBERS IN THE PAST. 
          SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BE MORE CONSERVATIVE AND FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON SO THAT WE HAVE A MORE REALISTIC APPROACH TO WHAT WE'RE BRINGING IN FROM THE REVENUES. 
          LIKEWISE, THERE'S A SIZABLE INCREASE IN THE GOLF COURSE. 
          CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? WELL, IN SPEAKING TO, UM, RECREATION, THEY JUST THINK THAT THE GOLF, THE NUMBER OF GOLFERS IS INCREASING AND THEY'VE SEEN MORE GOLFERS AND THEY'RE HOPING JUST TO BE ABLE TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT, THEY HAD DISCUSSED THE POTENTIAL FOR SLIGHT INCREASES IN GREEN FEES IF THEY COULD SEE THAT IT WOULD BE SUPPORTED. 
          SO WE'RE HOPING BETWEEN THOSE TWO THINGS, THAT THAT IS AN AREA WHERE WE CAN SEE AN UPTICK THAT COMING OUT OF COVID. 
          MORE PEOPLE DID GO, WE'RE HOPING THAT CONTINUES AND THEY WERE PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THEIR STRUCTURES WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR PROGRAM FEES AS WELL AS AS THEIR GREEN FEES AND THEIR MEMBERSHIP FEES. 
          BUT THIS ON PAGE NINE HERE, THAT THIS IS, THIS IS THE MONEY THAT'S TRANSFERRED FROM THE VARIOUS FUNDS INTO THE GENERAL FUND. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? FOR THESE ONES? YES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THOSE ONES ARE, A LOT OF TIMES THESE ONES ARE KIND OF CALCULATED BASED ON HOW MUCH EACH FUND ACTUALLY OWES THE A FUND TO DO DAY-TO-DAY SERVICES LIKE PAT AND I, HOW MUCH WE KIND OF DEDICATE TOWARDS DOING THINGS FOR THESE. 
          THEN THEY OWE 
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THE GENERAL FUND A SMALL PORTION. 
          SO IT'S A CALCULATION THAT THIS ANALYSIS THAT WAS DONE BACK IN 2015 THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT HAVING REDONE AND LOOKING AT AND SEEING WHERE THINGS HAVE CHANGED AND WHY. 
          BUT IT'S JUST KIND OF REIMBURSING FOR STUFF THAT WE DO DAY TO DAY OR SO. 
          SO THIS INCREASE IN THE INTER FUND REVENUES IS, THAT'S NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF THE INCREASE OF, OF GREEN FEES AND OTHER FEES COLLECTED THE DOLL COURSE. 
          BUT AS WE'LL SEE LATER IN THE BUDGET, WE'RE MAKING THAT INCREASE REVENUES WHICH IMPACT THIS, THIS LINE RIGHT HERE. 
          YES. 
          AND PART OF WHAT KEN MENTIONED TOO IS WE NEED TO REEXAMINE THAT DISTRIBUTION. 
          IT WAS DONE IN 2015 AND IT'S SUPPORTED BY ALL KINDS OF CALCULATIONS OF WHAT EITHER FINANCE WOULD DO OR IT WOULD DO. 
          AND THEY TRIED TO, UM, PUT THINGS BETWEEN THE VARIOUS FUNDS TO MAKE IT MORE EQUITABLE. 
          WE'D CERTAINLY NEED TO TO LOOK AT THAT. 
          'CAUSE THESE HAVE JUST BEEN CARRIED FORWARD FROM 2015. 
          SO WE'RE PRETTY SURE THAT THERE'S MORE SUPPORT GIVEN TO THESE ENTITIES THAT CAN BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND. 
          BUT WITHOUT ANY TRUE WAY TO DO THAT, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE TIME TO REDO THE CALCULATION. 
          SO THAT'S SORT OF JUST BEING CARRIED FORWARD AS IT HAS BEEN IN THE PAST. 
          BUT IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING ON THE LIST THAT, THAT TRY TO BETTER ALLOCATE RESOURCES BETWEEN THE FUNDS EXCEPT FOR THOSE TWO, WHICH ARE, YOU KNOW, PRETTY SIGNIFICANT ONE OF THEM DOWN. 
          RIGHT. 
          WAS THERE A DISCUSSION, EVEN THE FACT THAT IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE KIND OF JUST THOSE TWO ARE CHERRY PICKED? UH, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A TON OF PROGRAMS WE HAVE, BUT THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO THAT FALL INTO THE INTER FUND REVENUE SIDE LOOK, BUT I THINK THAT WAS JUST THE WAY WE, THAT THE NUMBERS OVER THE YEARS THOUGH, SO WE WERE JUST COMFORTABLE. 
          YEAH. 
          WHAT I'M SAYING IS, I THINK IN THE PAST THEY JUST, PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATIONS MAY HAVE JUST CHOSEN THOSE TWO TO HAVE ON THAT LINE ITEM AS INTER FUND, WHERE THERE'S OTHER ONES THAT DON'T APPEAR OR HAVE THERE. 
          DO YOU, ARE YOU AWARE OF OTHER ONES THAT MIGHT HAVE APPEARED IN THE PAST THAT NO LONGER APPEAR THERE? REVENUE WELL BEFORE WOODLAWN WORK APPEARED THERE WHEN IT WAS HERE AND SAME FOR THE TOWN PARK. 
          AND THE TOWN PARK WAS UNDER AN ENTERPRISE FUND, BUT NOW IT'S AN EIGHT FUND, SO THAT ONE NO LONGER WOULD APPEAR THERE EITHER. 
          SO REALLY I THINK LIKE THE PASS , WE HAD TO REDO THIS ANALYSIS BECAUSE I MEAN A BIG EXAMPLE WOULD BE JUST IT, HOW MUCH TIME IT SPENDS BACK AT POLICE FEE FUNDS SHOULD BE PAYING FOR SOME OF THOSE FEES AND SERVICES INSTEAD OF A FUND. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO THIS IS JUST MOSTLY FOR THAT PIECE AS FAR AS THE ICE CREAM AND THE GOLF COURSE, WHY THEY SHIFTED THAT MUCH. 
          'CAUSE IT'S REALLY AN AUTOMATIC CALCULATION. 
          I CAN KIND OF LOOK INTO IT AND SEE, UM, BECAUSE IT REALLY HAS BEEN PRETTY STANDARD GOING FORWARD EVERY YEAR. 
          SO THOSE ONES I'LL LOOK INTO AND THEN NEXT MEETING I'LL LET YOU KNOW. 
          OKAY. 
          AND ACTUALLY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS DISCUSSED AT A HIGHER LEVEL IS, AND I THINK THIS PERTAINS TO THAT, IS THERE REALLY ISN'T A NEED ANYMORE TO HAVE THESE ENTERPRISE FUNDS. 
          UM, SO WE NEED TO WRAP OUR HEADS AROUND THE PLUSES AND THE MINUSES OF CALLING OUT THESE INDIVIDUAL SITUATIONS. 
          THE ARGUMENTS CAN BE FOR OR AGAINST, IF YOU WANTED TO SHOW THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, COSTING THE TOWN MONEY TO PROVIDE THE ICE ARENA OR PROVIDE THE GOLF COURSE, IF THAT'S NOT ANYBODY'S APPETITE, ALL THIS STUFF CAN JUST BE ROLLED INTO THE GENERAL FUND AND NOT HAVE TO BE DISCUSSED THE WAY THEY ARE NOW. 
          SIMILAR TO TOWN PARK, SIMILAR TO WOODLAWN BEACH. 
          SO THAT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT WAS THROWN OUT THERE THAT THERE ISN'T TRULY A NEED FOR IT, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK. 
          WE REALLY HAVEN'T EVEN HAD A CHANCE TO GET OUR HEADS AROUND WHETHER IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA OR A BAD IDEA. 
          SO THROUGH JUST STATUS QUO FOR NOW, I THINK IT'S OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING WE SHOULD LOOK INTO BECAUSE HOWEVER, WHEREVER THEY WERE ESTABLISHED, I'D BE CURIOUS IS IF WE, IF IT'S STILL PERTINENT TODAY, UM, AND IF IT WAS GOOD SOUND, RATIONAL FINANCIAL PLANNING DECISIONS AROUND THAT, THERE'S PROBABLY OTHER AREAS THAT WE COULD IDENTIFY NOW THAT ARE A LOT BIGGER THAN WHEN THESE STARTED THAT WOULD ALSO BE GOOD CANDIDATES FOR THAT. 
          SO ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, I THINK WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO EXPLORE IT BECAUSE THEY'RE SO UNIQUE AND THERE'S SO MANY OTHER AREAS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD THINK WOULD FALL INTO THIS CATEGORY THAT DON'T, UM, YOU KNOW, WHY WE'RE JUST CHERRY PICKING A FEW, UH, IS WORTH DISCUSSION ANYWAY TO DETERMINE IF THAT STILL MAKES SENSE. 
          THESE ONES WERE PUT INTO ENTERPRISE FUNDS. 
          ENTERPRISE FUNDS ARE SUPPOSED TO MAKE A PROFIT. 
          AND SO WHEN THEY WERE MAKING A PROFIT, THEY WERE PUT IN AS ENTERPRISE FUNDS. 
          THEY NO LONGER MAKE A PROFIT AND THE A FUND HAS TO SUBSIDIZE THEM EVERY YEAR. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE COULD TAKE THEM OUT OF THE ENTERPRISE FUND. 
          AND THAT'S, THE TOWN PARK WAS TAKEN OUT, I THINK IN 2020 AND PUT BACK IN THE A FUND BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT PROFITABLE. 
          SO RIGHT NOW THEY'RE JUST STILL SEPARATE 'CAUSE IT'S STATUS QUO. 
          BUT THAT'S WHERE PETS SAYING WE CAN NOW BECAUSE THEY DON'T MAKE PROFIT, MOVE THEM INTO 
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THE FUND AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE CHERRY PICKED SEPARATE. 
          AND HOW LONG A PROCESS IS THAT? IS IT JUST A SIMPLE, UH, BUDGETING? IS IT SOMETHING WE COULD DO WITHIN THIS BUDGET? YES. 
          IT'S JUST 'CAUSE TOWN PARK, ALL THE NUMBERS STAY THE SAME, JUST THE LETTER CHANGES. 
          SO IT WOULD JUST MOVE EVERYTHING OVER. 
          IT WOULD GET RID OF A LOT OF THESE TRANSFER LINES AND LIKE COMPLICATED LINES THAT REALLY DON'T NEED TO BE THERE AND KIND OF MUDDY UP THE BUDGET. 
          SO IT WOULD KIND OF MAKE IT MORE TRANSPARENT, I THINK. 
          AND EVEN IF WE NEEDED TO KNOW WHAT THE ONGOING COSTS OF OPERATIONS, EVEN IF IT WASN'T SEPARATED AS AN ENTERPRISE, WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT. 
          RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          'CAUSE IT'S STILL GONNA HAVE ITS OWN DEPARTMENT NUMBER, RIGHT? LIKE INSTEAD OF ER 72 50, IT'LL JUST BE A 72 50. 
          SO IT WOULD STILL BE EASY TO SEPARATE IT OUT. 
          I THINK IT'S DEFINITELY WORTH EXPLORING BECAUSE I MEAN, WE, WE CAN FIGURE OUT THAT ALREADY AND ALL THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS. 
          SO WHY THESE ARE SEPARATE SEEMS LIKE IT. 
          I I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, WHAT THE POINT IS. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP AND WE WOULDN'T, IT WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND SOMEBODY'S THOUGHT PROCESS AT THE TIME, BUT WHEN THEY WERE LOSING MONEY, THEY WERE LEFT THERE JUST TO BASICALLY CALL IT OUT TO THE TAXPAYERS AS WELL AS ANYBODY LOOKING TO SEE WOODLAWNS COSTING THE TOWN X AMOUNT OF MONEY. 
          DO WE REALLY WANNA PARTAKE IN THE WAY WE'RE PARTAKING? AND THAT WAS A WAY OF MAKING THE ARGUMENT ONE WAY EITHER FOR OR AGAINST. 
          THAT'S WHAT THESE NUMBERS CAN DO. 
          IF YOU WANNA SHOW THAT IT'S GREAT TO LIVE IN HAMBURG, YOU HAVE A GOLF COURSE THAT'S COSTING US THIS AMOUNT TO SUBSIDIZE THE GOLF COURSE, BUT WE'RE WILLING TO DO THAT FOR THE TOWN. 
          IF IT'S NOT A CONVERSATION THAT MERIT'S HAVING EVERY YEAR, THEN CERTAINLY IT ROLLS INTO THE GENERAL FUND. 
          BUT WE ALWAYS CAN, IF SOMEBODY WERE TO ASK, HOW'S THE GOLF COURSE DOING? HOW'S THE NIKE ARENA DOING ALL THAT STUFF? THE INFORMATION'S THERE, WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO PULL IT OUT. 
          WHERE HERE IT'S ITEMIZED SEPARATELY. 
          AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE THAT TYPE OF ANALYSIS. 
          BUT AS YOU COMMENTED ON BEFORE, THAT ANALYSIS IS ONLY AS GOOD AS THE INFORMATION PUT IN. 
          AND IF THERE'S NO FIDELITY TO THE PROCESS IN TERMS OF HOW THINGS ARE REPORTED, ESPECIALLY WITH PERSONNEL LINES, THEN HONESTLY THAT INFORMATION THAT DATA BECOMES SKEWED AND IS NOT BENEFICIAL FOR US IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO ANALYZE WHERE WE WANNA PUT OUR ASSETS AND WHERE WE WANNA PUT INVESTMENT AND HOW WE WANT TO SUPPORT OR NOT SUPPORT CERTAIN PROGRAMMING. 
          SO IT COMES BACK TO THE PROCESS AS YOU STARTED BY SAYING I COULDN'T AGREE MORE. 
          I MEAN, AGREE, THAT'S FAR AND AWAY THE BIGGEST GOAL FOR ME IS JUST TO GET THIS STUFF CLEANED UP SO THAT WHAT IS REPRESENTED AS BEING RECORDED IS TRULY WHAT'S, WHAT'S BEING RECORDED. 
          RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE OTHERWISE THERE IS NO REASON TO PUT IT THERE. 
          I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY BENEFICIAL IF THE DATA IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN RELY ON, BUT IF IT'S NOT, THEN YEAH, I WOULDN'T GO SO FAR AS TO SAY YOU CAN'T RELY ON THE DATA, IT IS JUST NOT AS ACCURATE OR IT'S NOT AS COMPLETE AS, AS IT SHOULD BE BECAUSE THE AC THE, THE INFORMATION IN THERE IS ACCURATE AS RECORDED. 
          BUT TO YOUR POINT, IF SOMEBODY'S MAKING A MISCLASSIFICATION OR DOING SOMETHING THAT SHOULDN'T BE IN THAT LITTLE BUCKET, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO, TO CLEAN UP. 
          SO ON PAGE 10, UH, UNDER GENERAL GOVERNMENT SUPPORT, UM, YOU'RE GONNA SEE SOME, UH, SOME SIGNIFICANT INCREASES HERE. 
          UM, MOST OF THEM ARE DUE TO EITHER ADDITIONAL POSITIONS OR, UM, OR SOME, SOME SALARY INCREASES WITHIN EXISTING POSITIONS. 
          UH, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IN, UH, THE TOWN SUPERVISOR'S OFFICE CALLED FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATION, UH, CENTRAL PURCHASING MM-HMM . 
          UTILITIES. 
          OH YEAH, YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT WAS, THAT WAS AN INCREASE IN UTILITIES ASSESSING THERE'S THAT, THAT NUMBER'S GOING TO DECREASE. 
          THAT WAS A, A NEGOTIATION, NOT REALLY A NEGOTIATION, BUT I GUESS THERE WAS A, UH, A MISUNDERSTANDING, UH, IN, IN ASSESSING AS FAR AS HOW WE ARE GOING TO BUDGET FOR POSITIONS. 
          WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE BRING PEOPLE IN FOR TRAINING PURPOSES. 
          UH, BASICALLY WHAT WENT INTO THIS WAS WAS I THINK TWO POSITIONS, ASSUMING TWO POSITIONS WOULD BE DOUBLE FILLED BEING INSIDE YOU. 
          OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT GONNA LAY OUT THAT WAY. 
          SO, SO THERE'S CHANGING, UM, WHEN YOU SAY CHANGING THAT, IS THAT CHANGE? SO THE $148,000 CHANGE FROM DEPARTMENT OF REQUEST TO SUPERVISORS WAS THAT THE DEPARTMENT REQUEST INCLUDED THE DOUBLE BOOKING OF PERSONNEL AND SPEAKING OF THEM AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT THAT ACTUALLY MEANT, WE WERE ABLE TO COME DOWN TO THE MORE REALISTIC NUMBER THAT'S REFLECTED IN RAIN'S BUDGET. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT IT'S STILL A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE FROM 2022 BUDGET. 
          AND THIS ISN'T JUST PERSONAL SERVICES THOUGH, THIS IS FOR IF THEY REQUESTED ASSESSING, DIDN'T PUT VEHICLES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          THESE NUMBERS REPRESENT THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT INCREASE. 
          YEAH. 
          WHICH WE, WE CAN, WE CAN GET INTO IN MORE DETAILS ON THAT. 
          UM, PERSONNEL, AS I 
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MENTIONED, THAT THERE'S, THERE'S AN EXTRA POSITION IN THERE AS WELL. 
          UH, SUPERINTENDENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, UM, AS, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THAT IS, UH, GOING AND REPLACING A, A POSITION IN, UH, COEN ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT, UH, CENTRAL PRINTING AND MAILING, WAS THAT DUE TO, WE KIND OF COMBINED SOME BUDGET LINES INTO  AND POSTAGE THAT REALLY WENT UP, UM, AS KATHY HAD MENTIONED. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEN AGAIN, JUST, UH, HIGH LEVEL PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATION. 
          THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT DECREASE. 
          UM, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT THAT WAS. 
          PART OF THAT WAS MISCLASSIFICATION LAST YEAR'S BUDGET. 
          I THINK WITH JOHN'S SET THE NUMBER, I THINK HE HAD SOME HIS WAS DUE TO RETIREMENTS TOO AND BEING REPLACING POSITIONS AT A LOWER AMOUNT. 
          YEAH, WE CAN GET HIM TO MORE DETAILS ON THAT AS WE GET TO THE DEPARTMENTS. 
          UM, SO ON PAGE 11, WE'LL LOOK AT ECONOMIC ASSISTANCE AND OPPORTUNITIES, UH, REDUCTION IN THE, UH, PROGRAMS FOR AGING AND THE ADULT DAY PROGRAM. 
          AS WE MENTIONED, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, REDUCTION IN, IN REVENUE. 
          WE'RE ALSO, UM, HAVE A, A DEPARTMENT STRUCTURE THAT, THAT JILL'S IMPLEMENTING, WHICH IS GONNA RESULT IN SOME SHIFT IN PAYROLL COSTS. 
          UM, I THINK OVERALL FOR YOUTH REC AND SENIOR SERVICES, UM, THE PERSONNEL BUDGET, I THINK IS IT DECREASED? YEAH, I THINK IT DECREASED A LITTLE BIT. 
          UM, WHICH IS UNUSUAL WITH, WITH THE RISING COST THAT, UH, THAT COME WITH EMPLOYING PEOPLE. 
          UM, PLAYGROUNDS AND REC WAS, WAS SIMILAR, UH, BOW LAUNCHES. 
          THE, THAT DREDGING IS, IS A BIG BITE. 
          YEAH. 
          EVERY YEAR. 
          THIS YEAR WE SPENT A HUNDRED THOUSAND, UM, I MADE THE CALL TO, UH, TO GIVE ONE FINAL DREDGING IN, UH, IN AUGUST HOPING THAT WE CAN AT LEAST MAYBE HAVE ANOTHER FIVE OR SIX WEEKS FOR VOTERS WHO, WHO BOUGHT THE, THE PASS AND THAT, THAT BROUGHT US OVER THE, UH, OVER WHAT WE HAD BUDGETED. 
          UM, SO WE'RE THINKING, UH, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT A HUNDRED AND 121, I THINK, UH, IT'S ABOUT A HUNDRED FOR DREDGING AND, AND 21,000 FOR SOME OTHER COSTS. 
          AND THEN THAT MUCH CHANGES. 
          UM, WHEN WE GET TO EMPLOYEE BENEFITS, UH, THERE'S A, A REDUCTION IN THE COST OF EMPLOYEE BENEFITS IS THAT, THAT'S REFLECTIVE OF THE, UM, MEETINGS WE'VE HAD WITH INDEPENDENT HEALTH UNITED HEALTH. 
          AND SO THAT REFLECTS WHAT WE BELIEVE TO BE AT A MINIMUM. 
          THE, THE DECREASE, IT MIGHT EVEN BE MORE, BUT AT THE TIME THIS WAS PREPARED, THAT WAS THE NUMBER THAT WE HAD TO GO WITH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE WE'RE, WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT WE'RE GONNA BE, SEE SOME SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS, PERHAPS EVEN MORE SIGNIFICANT THAN WHAT WE HAVE HERE. 
          BUT THOSE ARE ONGOING CONVERSATIONS. 
          UM, ON PAGE 12, WE SEE THE, THESE ARE, UH, MOSTLY, UH, WELL, THESE ARE THE, THE ELECTED OFFICES. 
          UM, AND WHAT I'VE, WHAT I, WHAT I PUT IN HERE FOR, UH, OUR MANAGEMENT CONFIDENTIAL AND ELECTED EMPLOYEES, UM, IS WAS A 3% RAISE FOR, FOR EVERYONE. 
          UM, WHICH IS, WHICH IS SOMEWHAT CONSISTENT WITH, UH, THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS, UH, THAT ARE IN PLACE. 
          ELECTED OFFICIALS AND MANAGEMENT CONFIDENTIAL EMPLOYEES ARE NOT REPRESENTED BY ANY COLLECTIVE BARGAINING UNITS. 
          UM, HOWEVER, UM, IT'S, IT'S GETTING MORE DIFFICULT TO FIND PEOPLE FOR THESE POSITIONS. 
          UM, AND I KNOW FOLKS THAT HAVE WORKED FOR US, YOU KNOW, VERY RECENTLY AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN MANAGEMENT CONFIDENTIAL POSITIONS, UH, WITHOUT, WITHOUT ANY REALLY SIGNIFICANT PAY INCREASE OVER, OVER SEVERAL YEARS. 
          UM, AND, AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO RETAIN PEOPLE, UH, AT 0% OR EVEN SMALL INCREASES. 
          UM, SO WHEN THE 
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TOWN'S ABLE TO AFFORD IT, I THINK IT'S, IT'S WISE TO ADDRESS THOSE. 
          UM, AND I THINK THAT, UM, THE SALARIES FIXED TO ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE ALSO, UH, BEEN, BEEN, HAD THERE BEEN 0% INCREASES OVER QUITE SOME TIME. 
          UM, SO I THINK THAT WAS, THAT WAS LONG OVERDUE. 
          AND MY HOPE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, FUTURE TOWN BOARDS WILL, WILL ATTRACT QUALITY CANDIDATES FOR THOSE POSITIONS AND THEY SHOULD BE PAID AS SUCH. 
          UM, BUT LOOKING THROUGH THE, UH, DEPARTMENT BUDGETS, I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S, UH, CERTAINLY AN INCREASE IN THE, UH, PERSONNEL SERVICES AND SUPERVISOR'S OFFICE. 
          UH, I WASN'T AWARE, UH, PREVIOUSLY, BUT THE TOWN SUPERVISOR IS ENTITLED BY , TWO APPOINTMENTS, THE SECRETARY AND A BOOKKEEPER. 
          UH, SO IT'S MY INTENTION TO ADD A, A BOOKKEEPER TO THE OFFICE. 
          UM, AND THAT, THAT ACCOUNT FOR THE PERSONNEL COURTS THERE, FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATION, AGAIN, THIS, THIS IS VERY HEAVY ON, ON PERSONNEL COSTS. 
          THERE'S SOME OFFICE EQUIPMENT, FURNITURE AND SO FORTH. 
          UM, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. 
          UH, GOING THROUGH THE DOWN PAGE 13, UM, AS PAT MENTIONED, UH, SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN CENTRAL PURCHASING AND DUE TO UTILITY COSTS ASSESSING, UM, THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GONNA SEE THE INCREASES FOR, UM, FOR PERSONNEL SERVICES OF, OF 50,000, WHICH IS, I BELIEVE, TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THE, THE DOUBLE FILL AND THE TRAINING AND SO FORTH. 
          UM, BUT THE 85,000 INCREASE IN PERSONNEL SERVICES, OTHER, I MEAN, THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S RETIREMENTS. 
          IT'S RETIREMENTS. 
          YEP. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          THEY'RE BUILT IN. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING THROUGH THIS BUDGET AND YOU SEE THAT LINE FOR PERSONAL SERVICES, OTHER, UM, 85,000, THAT'S, THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE ANTICIPATE THE BUYOUT FOR THESE FOLKS WHO ARE RETIRING. 
          AND THAT COULD BE VACATION TIME, SICK TIME, UM, WHAT ELSE GOES INTO THAT? LONGEVITY. 
          LONGEVITY, YEAH. 
          LONGEVITY. 
          HEALTH REBATES. 
          IF WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE DON'T TAKE A HEALTH INSURANCE BUDGET, ANYTHING THAT WE CAN'T BUDGET FOR THAT WE KNOW PEOPLE USUALLY SELL BACK, WE TRY TO BUDGET FOR THE 1 0 3 LINE. 
          YEAH, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY ESSENTIALLY CASH PAYMENTS TO EMPLOYEES. 
          CORRECT. 
          IN LIEU OF BENEFIT TIME OR, OR OTHER . 
          UM, SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE THAT THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET. 
          UM, CLERKS IS A LITTLE BIT OF AN INCREASE. 
          UM, NOTHING, NOTHING REALLY ALL THAT CONSIDERABLE CONSIDERING THE AMOUNT OF, WHAT WOULD THEY DO IN CLERK'S OFFICE? , UM, LEGAL, UM, RAISES, UH, SMALL RAISES AND CONTRACTED SERVICE IS ONE OF 25,000 AND I CAN'T RE WELL, THAT WAS UNDER FOR CINDY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          JUST IN CASE UNTIL WE CAN GET SOMEBODY ELSE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE DO HAVE A, UM, UH, A PARALEGAL BUDGETED IN, IN THE LEGAL OFFICE. 
          IN ADDITION, YOU HAVE 25,000 BUDGETED FOR SENDING TO HELP US TO CONTINUE ON THAT TRANSITION. 
          UM, SO IT'S DOESN'T NECESSARILY HELP US NOW, BUT THIS BUDGET. 
          BUT THERE SHOULD, THERE'S, THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR VACANCIES SAVINGS THERE, WHICH WOULD IMPACT NEXT YEAR'S BOND BALANCE. 
          UM, SO THE INCREASE FOR PERSONNEL SERVICES, THAT'S FOR, UM, DOES THAT INCLUDE FOR THE CINDY POSITION OR THAT'S JUST FOR THE TWO, THE THREE POSITIONS LIKE THE TOWN ATTORNEY, DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEY AND, AND PROSECUTOR. 
          IS THAT THE 9,700, IS THAT FOR THOSE THREE POSITIONS OR DOES THAT INCLUDE THE, THE, UM, THE PARALEGAL? THAT'S JUST THOSE THREE POSITIONS. 
          SO THE NINE SEVEN IS JUST FOR THE THREE POSITIONS? NO, THE NINE SEVEN IS FOR THE PARALEGAL. 
          THE PARALEGAL 9,700. 
          YES. 
          THAT WORKS. 
          THE, THE 34 71 IS FOR THE ATTORNEY DEPUTY AND PROSECUTOR. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, PERSONNEL. 
          UH, SO THERE'S 
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AN INCREASE OF 110,000. 
          UM, THAT IS GOING TO BE, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO CUT THAT SIGNIFICANTLY. 
          WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WANNA DO WITH THAT POSITION. 
          HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA NEXT WEEK. 
          BETH AND I WILL REPORT BACK ON, ON THE INTERVIEW YOU WANT AND WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WANNA DO NEXT. 
          THERE. 
          UM, ON TRACK PERSONAL SERVICES IS ALSO A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE. 
          UM, AND THAT IS, UH, PAY PAY, YEAH. 
          PAYCHECK. 
          YEAH. 
          AN INCREASE IN COST FOR, FOR PAYCHECKS. 
          WE'RE LOOKING INTO THE POSSIBILITY OF SOME, SOME REBATES, BUT I THINK THIS IS WHAT THEY CAME IN AT MORE RECENTLY. 
          YES. 
          IS THAT FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, TYPICAL INCREASE OR ALSO FOR AN, AN INCREASE IN THE SERVICES WE'RE WE'RE GETTING FROM THEM? TYPICAL, WE'RE NOT QUITE SURE. 
          LAST YEAR THEY HAD US UPGRADE TO FLEX AND THEY SAID IT WOULD BE JUST A TRANSITION AND NOTHING WOULD COST MORE, BUT I'M NOTICING THE INVOICES ARE MORE. 
          SO WE'VE REACHED OUT TO PAYCHEX TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHY. 
          AND THEY ALSO SAID WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A REBATE THAT WE GET THAT THEY SET EXPIRES, WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH THEM TO KEEP THAT GOING. 
          AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT IT YEAH. 
          SOMETHING DEFINITELY COME DOWN AND WE'RE ALSO GONNA YEAH. 
          EXPLORE JUST THE DIFFERENT PROVIDER. 
          MM-HMM. 
          THEY, UH, PERSONNEL AND CAN JUST, THEY'RE NOT GIVING US THE SERVICE THAT WE DESERVE, EXPECT. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT IT FROM BOTH ENDS. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          WHEN WE TOOK ON SOME OF THOSE OTHER COMPONENTS THAT THEY PROMISED US QUITE A WELL, LIKE THE TIME CLOCK AND STUFF, LIKE YES. 
          AND, AND THERE WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE AN INCREASE. 
          THERE WASN'T. 
          AND IT'S, AND WE HAVEN'T INCREASED IN SERVICES RUNNING THE ITSELF, THE FACT THAT IT HAS THIS. 
          MM-HMM. 
          AND I BELIEVE ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS WHEN TARA FIRST ASKED A DISCOUNT TIED TO THE ACCOUNT, BUT IT WAS A YEAR OVER YEAR OR THREE YEAR DISCOUNT, OR IT BASICALLY FELL OFF AND THAT WAS THEIR RESPONSE, WELL, WE DON'T GET THAT DISCOUNT. 
          I BE YOU, WE WILL AT THE END, OR AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA PUSH FOR BECAUSE MM-HMM . 
          SURE. 
          THAT WASN'T WHAT THEY SAID. 
          RIGHT. 
          I WASN'T DIRECTLY INVOLVED, BUT THAT'S THE STORY I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY TOLD US WAS GONNA HAPPEN. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE HAVE SOME WORK TO DO THERE. 
          UM, GOING DOWN PAGE 15 ONTO ENGINEERING, UM, WE'RE SEEING SOME, UM, REDUCTIONS IN THE PAYROLL LINES IN ENGINEERING. 
          UM, NOW WE ARE LOOKING AT BRINGING IN THE SUPERINTENDENT PUBLIC WORKS TO OVERSEE ENGINEERING. 
          UM, WHICH IS NOT REFLECTED IN THESE PERSONNEL LINES OR IS IT? NO, IT'S THE NEXT PAGE UNDER, UH, DEPARTMENT 1498. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OH, OKAY. 
          GOTCHA. 
          YEP. 
          PERFECT. 
          UM, SO IN, IN ONE OF THE BIGGER REDUCTIONS IS PERSONAL SERVICES. 
          OTHER, WE, WE DON'T AN, WE HAVE YOUNG STAFF. 
          WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY RETIREMENTS IN ENGINEERING. 
          HOPEFULLY NOT FOR A LONG TIME. 
          UH, SO THAT CAME DOWN CONSIDERABLY. 
          UH, PUBLIC WORKS AGAIN, UH, WE DISCUSSED THAT. 
          THAT'S, UH, THAT POSITION, UH, TOWN HALL OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE, UH, REALLY NOT MUCH IN WAY OF, UH, UM, ANY CHANGES. 
          UH, HOWEVER, I THINK IT'S NOTEWORTHY, AND YOU'LL SEE THIS THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET, UH, WE ARE FOR THE FIRST TIME, UH, ADDING A FIRE PREVENTION BUDGET TO, TO OUR FACILITIES JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE ARE PROPERLY AND REGULARLY INSPECTED AND, AND UPGRADED WHEN NEEDED. 
          UM, AND THEN THE, THE WATER LINE THAT WAS CONSOLIDATED INTO ANOTHER, YES, . 
          UM, AND THEN FURTHER DOWN PAGE 16, WE'RE GOING ONTO, UH, A CENTRAL GARAGE, UM, UH, MOTOR VEHICLES. 
          UH, WE REDUCED THAT, UH, OVER LAST YEAR BY POINT THOUSAND, WE REDUCED THE DEPARTMENT REQUEST BY 30,000. 
          UM, AND YOU'LL BETTER UNDERSTAND WHY AFTER WE HEAR FROM TYLER LATER. 
          UM, LET'S SEE, GAS AND OIL, WE BUMPED UP 15,000. 
          UM, AND THEN THE UNANTICIPATED VEHICLE EXPENSE, UH, WE ELIMINATED AND, AND ROLLED THAT INTO A DIFFERENT REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE LINE, I BELIEVE. 
          UH, AND THEN AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE THE FIRE PREVENTION 
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LINE ITEM OH 4 6 6 GOING ON PAGE 17. 
          UM, NOT MUCH REALLY JUMPS OUT HERE. 
          I MEAN, WE HAVE A BIG JUMP IN POSTAGE, A $15,000 JUMP IN IN POSTAGE. 
          UM, UH, IT, UH, WE HAVE AN INCREASE IN THE PART-TIME LINE. 
          UH, WE'RE HOPING TO, UH, TO ADD PART-TIME STAFF, BUT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, THERE'S NOT A LOT OUT THERE. 
          UM, SO, SO WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. 
          HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET SOMEBODY IN OTHERWISE WE'LL HAVE VACANCY SAVINGS. 
          UM, RAY, JUST REAL QUICK ON THE POSTAGE, UM, I KNOW HOW WE'VE TRIED IN THE PAST OR WE TALKED ABOUT TRYING TO REDUCE SOME OF THE PAPER AND THE PRINTING AND, UH, JENNY AND I DID A, A BIT OF A CONSOLIDATION WITH THE PRINTERS AND, AND TALK TO EACH DEPARTMENT ABOUT WHAT THEIR NEEDS WERE. 
          IS THERE, I KNOW THE COSTS ARE GONNA INCREASE, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT PART OF IT, BUT IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY OF TRANSITIONING TO ELECTRONIC OR PAPERLESS SOME OF THE BILLS OR SOME OF THE, UM, PRINTING OR SOME OF THE, UM, POSTAGE THAT WE HAVE? OR IS THAT, UH, SET IN STONE? I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO SEND OUT BY MAIL AND, UM, I, I WAS COMFORTABLE WITH AN INCREASE IN THIS LINE JUST BECAUSE IF, IF WE DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUBLICIZE PROGRAMS OR PUBLIC HEARINGS OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE, I MEAN, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE EVENT IS, WHERE IT IS OR WHO WE WANT TO TARGET CAN BRING TO THEIR ATTENTION, UM, SOMETIMES OLD FASHIONED STYLE MAIL IS THE BEST WAY TO DO IT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THE POST OFFICE KEEPS IN, THEY KEEP INCREASING THE POSTAGE RATES. 
          WE HAVEN'T GONE, WE HAVEN'T REALLY INCREASED POSTAGE IN A WHILE MM-HMM . 
          AND, UM, WE TRY AND GET THE BIGGEST DISCOUNT WE CAN FROM THE COMPANY THAT WE USE. 
          LIKE THE FRIDAY, I, I HAD A BIG MAILING, WHICH I HADN'T ANTICIPATED. 
          SO I TOLD HIM I'M GONNA HAVE MORE THAN A THOUSAND PIECES OF MAIL SO THAT WHAT HE DOES, THAT HE REDUCES MY COST, THEN IT'S NOT THE NORMAL 44 CENTS OR WHATEVER IT CHARGES ME. 
          SO SAME MAKES IT 42 CENTS A PIECE AND THAT, THAT ALL ADDS UP. 
          SO YEAH. 
          AND TO DATE, WE'VE SPENT 70,000 THIS YEAR ON POSTAGE. 
          SO 70,000 FOR NEXT YEAR MIGHT BE, YEAH, THEY RAISED IT UP I THINK A COUPLE TIMES. 
          THE POST OFFICE RAISED THE RATES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN CONTINUE ON TO PAGE 18. 
          UM, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOME INCREASES, AND THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF IT, UM, UH, REDUCTION IN, IN SERVICE CONTRACTS AND LICENSES BY JUST A, A LITTLE BIT, BUT AN INCREASE IN, IN SERVICE CONTRACTS AND LICENSES, UH, AS WELL AS CONSULTING FEES. 
          UM, AND, AND THIS IS I THINK REALLY IN RECOGNITION THAT WE HAVE SOME SERIOUS IT CAPACITY ISSUES IN HAMBURG AND THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE TAKING ON THIS YEAR. 
          UM, SO I THINK, UH, AND ALSO AN ANTICIPATED, UH, ABSENCE OF OUR IT DIRECTOR FOR, UH, FOR LIKELY AT LEAST A MONTH OR SO, UH, IN 2023. 
          UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT BRINGING IN A, A CONSULTANT TO HELP, UH, MANAGE SOME PROJECTS AND, AND RESPOND TO SOME, UH, SOME TROUBLESHOOTING AS WELL. 
          UM, SPECIAL ITEMS, UM, AN INCREASE IN THE, UH, CONTINGENCY ACCOUNT OF, UH, 20,000 TO 100,000. 
          UM, WE WERE LOOKING AT TWO 50 AT THE BEGINNING, BUT, UH, , THAT ONE WE ACTUALLY GOT, THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST TO GO. 
          UM, AGAIN, NOT THAT WE HAD ANY PLANS FOR THAT, BUT JUST IN CASE OF CONTINGENCY, UM, WE HAD A PRIOR PREVENTION THERE ALSO. 
          YES. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          WE, UH, AND WE'VE REALIZED OVER THE COURSE OF THIS PAST FEW MONTHS THAT WE HAVE SOME VERY SERIOUS MATTERS THAT WE GOTTA, WE HAVE TO ADDRESS IN ADDITION TO THE OTHER ONE TOO. 
          SO THAT'LL TAKE, SO IT'S SPLIT UP INTO A COUPLE DIFFERENT LINES. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I THINK THIS IS MORE THIS, THIS BUDGET AND THESE BUDGET EXPENSES ARE MORE FOR IN REGULAR INSPECTIONS. 
          CORRECT. 
          AS A PART OF THE OVERALL 
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ANALYSIS. 
          UM, THE VENDOR WENT BUILDING BY BUILDING TO SEE WHAT WAS NEEDED, WHAT NEEDED TO BE IMPROVED, AND THEN BUILD INTO OUR BUDGET WHAT THE COST OF THE ANNUAL INSPECTION COULD BE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO RATHER THAN IN THE PAST WHERE THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN A BIG BUCKET OF A GUESS AT WHAT WE MIGHT SPEND ON INSPECTIONS, WE'RE TRYING TO DRILL INTO AS CLOSE AS WE CAN THE ACTUAL AMOUNT THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY, BUT ALSO PUT IT TO THE RIGHT DEPARTMENT. 
          SO IT'S ON THOSE PEOPLE'S RADAR THAT, HEY, I NEED TO REMEMBER, OR TO PLAN, OR JUST TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THAT INSPECTION'S GONNA HAPPEN. 
          IT'S PART OF MY BUDGET AND IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN EVERY YEAR. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEN GRANT WRITING WENT DOWN, OR HAVE WE SPLIT THAT INTO A COUPLE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS OR AREAS? I KNOW SOMETIMES WE DO. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE HAVE, UM, THAT, THAT WENT DOWN A LITTLE BIT. 
          AND WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE SOME DEPARTMENT HEADS WITH SOME, SOME GRANT MANAGEMENT CAPACITY. 
          UM, SO I THINK THEY'LL BE ABLE TO BE LESS, RELY LESS ON, ON OUR CONSULTANT. 
          AND THEN GOING DOWN PAGE 18 INTO PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS. 
          UM, SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN, IN, I BELIEVE THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE, UH, THE INFLUX OF, OF NEW STAFF. 
          MM-HMM. 
          UH, ROSE ANDRES RETIRED A, A WEEK OR SO AGO, AND SHE WAS THE NEW PERSON FOR LIKE SEVEN YEARS. 
          SO NOW THERE'S, I MEAN, WE, WE HIRED I THINK THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE THIS YEAR ALONE, UH, IN PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          SO, UM, UH, NEWER STAFF, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOWER IN THEIR, IN THEIR CONTRACTUAL STEPS. 
          UH, AND IT'S, UH, RESULT IN A REDUCTION IN THOSE PAYROLL COSTS, WHICH IS GOOD FOR NOW. 
          MOVING ON TO PAGE 19 AGAIN, THEN MORE PUBLIC SAFETY, NO MAJOR CHANGES. 
          UM, GOING INTO, UH, YOUTH, BASICALLY WE ARE LOOKING AT, UH, CONVERTING THAT, UH, CONTRACTED POSITION TO A FULL-TIME POSITION, UM, DUE TO A, UH, ANTICIPATED RETIREMENT FROM A CONTRACTOR. 
          UM, SO THAT'LL SHIFT SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          IN THE, IN THE REC DEPARTMENT. 
          IN THE, OR IN THE, YEAH. 
          WHERE IS THAT? IS THAT, IS THAT REFLECTED IN YOUTH REC CONTINU SERVICES IN THE PAYROLL? IT IS. 
          LET ME FIND WHAT DEPARTMENT I, JOEL HAD SAID UNDER YOUTH PROGRAMS FOR 73 10, PAGE 26. 
          SO THAT'D BE A, UM, CURRENTLY THAT'S PART-TIME FOR THAT PART TEACHER, OR THAT'S FULL-TIME, THAT INDIVIDUAL. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK IT'S, IT'S, IT'S PART, IT'S, IT'S PART-TIME, BUT MORE THAN 19 HOURS A WEEK. 
          BUT IT'S, YEAH. 
          SO IT'S LESS SPEND, BUT NOW IN WHERE IT'S GONNA SHIFT INTO THE OTHER DEPARTMENT, IT'S GONNA BECOME FULL-TIME. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHAT LINE IS IT ON THE OTHER DEPARTMENT? I'M SORRY. 
          THAT'S OKAY. 
          UM, SEVENTY THREE, TEN ONE HUNDRED. 
          SO SHOULD THE TITLE OF THAT CHANGE, SINCE IT SAYS SUMMER PROGRAMS, RIGHT. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY PUT THAT ON THERE. 
          ACTUALLY. 
          THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE FIND THEM, WE CAN MM-HMM . 
          HAVE THEM CHANGE THAT, BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WAS IN THERE IN ANY OTHER BUDGET. 
          SO I'M NOT SURE WHY IT WAS ADDED IN. 
          SO IS THAT ALL, SO THAT 52 IS GOING TO 1 22? OR IS THERE MULTIPLE THINGS THAT ARE FALLING UNDER THAT 100 LINE? THERE'S TWO POSITIONS. 
          THAT'S PART OF THE SHIFTING THAT THE SUPERVISOR MENTIONED. 
          SO THERE'S A SUPERVISOR, SENIOR RECREATION SUPERVISOR FOR 75,000 AND A RECREATION SPECIALIST FOR 47,000 WOULD MAKE UP THAT 100 LINE. 
          AND THOSE ARE BOTH NEW POSITIONS, CORRECT. 
          THAT ARE BEING WELL, IS THE SENIOR REC, I DON'T THINK THE SENIOR REC IS, IT'S, IT'S NOT AN, IS IT AN ADDITIONAL POSITION? I DON'T KNOW. 
          'CAUSE I JUST KNOW SHE SHIFTED AND GOT RID OF POSITIONS IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS. 
          I THINK SHE HAS LIKE A MATRIX, SO SHE, YEAH. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S ADDITIONAL. 
          IT'S JUST A REPLACEMENT OF, RIGHT. 
          UH, 'CAUSE REMEMBER WE HAD FOR, UH, RETIREES LAST YEAR. 
          SO IT'S JUST A SHIFT TO THE YOUTH SIDE AS OPPOSED TO, 
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UM, UNDER, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, PROBABLY THE REC SIDE MM-HMM . 
          BUT IT'S NOT AN INCREASE. 
          IT'S DEFINITELY A NEUTRAL. 
          THERE'S NOT A NET INCREASE PERSONNEL. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT ONE IS GONNA BE ONE OF THE MORE DIFFICULT ONES TO FOLLOW. 
          AND, AND MAYBE NEXT WEEK WE COULD EVEN HAVE JILL KIND OF PRESENT WHO'S WHERE. 
          YEAH, I DEFINITELY THINK THAT'S GONNA IMPORTANT BECAUSE THERE'S DEFINITELY, I MEAN, WE HAD FOUR RETIRE RETIREMENTS, INCLUDING THE DIRECTOR. 
          UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, WELL ACTUALLY I THINK MAYBE IT'S, IT, IT'LL BE FIVE IF YOU ANTICIPATE, UH, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN 2023, UH, WHICH THE BUDGET'S REFLECTING. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT OF CHANGES, UM, AND IN THE STRUCTURE OF IT. 
          SO IT'D BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR HER TO, UH, EXPLAIN IT. 
          YEAH. 
          SOME OF THOSE POSITIONS WORK FULL TIME, AND OF COURSE THEN WHEN THEY BECOME FULL-TIME, THEY TAKE ON DIFFERENT EXPENSES. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT MOST OF THOSE WORK FULL-TIME. 
          UM, LUKE IS FULL-TIME. 
          YOU WERE ALMOST FULL-TIME. 
          MM-HMM . 
          KURT WAS FULL-TIME. 
          SO, AND YEAH, SO AT LEAST THREE. 
          SO ONE, THE ONE COMING FROM YOUTH THOUGH WAS NOT. 
          SO THAT, I'D BE CURIOUS. 
          IT'D BE IT GREAT TO HEAR OR HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH HER TO SEE ARE THERE OTHER DUTIES FROM ANOTHER POSITION THAT WOULD BE BEING FOLDED IN WITH THE YOUTH? ARE THEY ONLY LOOKING TO EXPAND SERVICES? YEAH. 
          SO THIS, THE, THAT CONTRACT WAS JUST FOR THE YOUTH ENGAGEMENT SERVICE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THAT WAS IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO, SO I KNOW JILL HAS BIGGER PLANS FOR, FOR THE YOUTH BUREAU AND, AND THOSE DIVISION WILL BE TAKING ON ON THAT WORK. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT THEN THE, THE OTHER COSTS WITH HAVING A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE VERSUS YES. 
          UM, SO WE'RE STILL ON PAGE 19, UH, USEFUL OFFENDER PROGRAM. 
          UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. 
          SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE A REDUCTION THERE. 
          AND IT'S KIND OF A, A WEIRD, UH, A WEIRD SITUATION, UH, WHERE THERE WAS PERHAPS SOME SORT OF AN AGREEMENT, UH, WHICH RESULTED IN THE $65,000 BEING ADAPTED FOR 2022 BUDGET. 
          UM, HOWEVER, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO ANY OF OUR EMPLOYEES THAT ARE REPRESENTED BY A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT, WE'RE GOING TO RELY ON THAT COLLECTIVE BARGAINING DOCUMENT, UH, FOR THEIR COMPENSATION IN ITS ENTIRETY, WHICH IS WHAT WE APPLIED TO THE 2022, UM, SALARY FOR OUR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ADVOCATE. 
          UH, SO IT LOOKS LIKE A REDUCTION, BUT IT WASN'T MM-HMM . 
          IT WASN'T REALLY. 
          AND I THINK THAT NUMBER THAT, UM, THE 65, THE PREVIOUS YEAR WAS PART OF AN OVERALL PERSONNEL PLAN WITH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT POSITIONS. 
          AND I THINK THAT THE RATIONALE OF THE TIME, UM, USING WHATEVER APPROPRIATE MEANS WE NEEDED TO, WAS THAT, UM, AS A DEPARTMENT HEAD OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES, IT WAS LOOKED AT THAT THE, THE LEVEL THAT SHE WAS AT IN THE DEPARTMENT HEAD POSITION JUSTIFIED US EXAMINING AND GOING UP TO THAT, THAT 60,000, I WAS TRYING TO RECALL WHEN WE WERE GOING OVER IT LAST YEAR WITH THE SUPERVISOR. 
          'CAUSE IT SEEMED THAT THERE WAS MAYBE A MIS THERE WAS A COMMUNICATION THAT HAD HAPPENED WITH, WITH HIM AND THE DEPARTMENT HAD BEEN YES. 
          AND A MISCOMMUNICATION WITH US. 
          AND THERE WAS A, THERE WAS A DISPARITY IN THE RAISE THAT WAS GIVEN. 
          AND, AND I THINK THAT MAYBE WE WEREN'T ALL IN COMMUNICATION. 
          AND WAS THERE A SUPPOSED TO BE A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO, I WAS TRYING TO PIECE . 
          IT WAS, I REMEMBER IT WAS, IN THEORY, WE ALL AGREED THAT AS A DEPARTMENT HEAD, IT JUSTIFIED THAT AMOUNT. 
          THE QUESTION HAD BEEN HOW DO WE DO THAT WITHIN, YOU KNOW, ALL THE PARAMETERS AND GUIDELINES THAT WE HAVE TO STAY WITHIN MM-HMM . 
          SO IT WA AND, AND THAT'S WHERE I BELIEVE THE SUPERVISOR HAD HAD SOME TYPE OF MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT OR, OR SOMETHING. 
          AND THEN THINGS CHANGED. 
          I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WERE CLEAR ON WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED THAT IT CHANGED. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN, RIGHT. 
          THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT HAD A, AFTER WE DISCUSS THE BUDGET EXACTLY. 
          WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO GO ON. 
          BUT, BUT THE RATIONALE AT THE TIME THAT WE ALL HAD COMMENTED ABOUT, OR WHY THE 65 WAS IN THERE, WAS BECAUSE, AGAIN, AS THE DEPARTMENT HEAD, IT WAS FELT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS A DISCREPANCY THAT NEEDED TO BE, BE SOMEWHAT REMEDIED. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S, UM, YOU KNOW, NOW, UM, GOING ON PAGE 20, UM, UH, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT VERY MUCH CHANGES UNTIL, UM, 
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UH, UNTIL WE GET TO, UH, SAFETY INSPECTION REDUCTION IN 81,000. 
          UM, FOR LARGE PART TO THE REORGANIZATION, THAT'S GONNA BRING ON A SUPERINTENDENT PUBLIC WORKS, UH, PERSONNEL SERVICES, OTHER, YOU'LL SEE A VERY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE, UM, TO $136,365, WHICH IS, UM, LONGEVITY PAYMENTS AND SO FORTH. 
          BUT WE'RE ANTICIPATING TO, UH, TWO RETIREMENTS IN THAT DEPARTMENT NEXT YEAR. 
          AND AGAIN, A REDUCTION IN THE MOTOR VEHICLE, UH, LINE AS WELL. 
          UM, SAFETY INSPECTION CONTINUED. 
          UH, WE ADDED, UM, $19,000 TO CLEAN UP OF PROPERTIES. 
          THIS IS, THIS IS MONEY THAT WE GET BACK. 
          UM, THIS IS MONEY THAT IF, IF, UH, IF A RESIDENT ISN'T TAKING CARE OF, IF THEY'RE NOT CUTTING THE GRASS, FOR EXAMPLE, THEN WE'LL SEND SOMEBODY TO CUT THE GRASS AND THEN THEY GET A BILL FROM US PLUS 20% FEE. 
          UM, IT GOES ON OBJECT. 
          IT GOES. 
          YEAH, IT GOES ON. 
          SO WE GET IT EVENTUALLY. 
          WE MIGHT HAVE TO WAIT A LITTLE WHILE, BUT WE GET IT BACK AND THEN IT GOES IN THE GENERAL FUND. 
          UM, PERFECT. 
          SAFETY. 
          WE NEED TO, TO UPDATE THE DEPARTMENT. 
          YES, WE DO. 
          GOOD CATCH. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THAT'S REALLY JUST PERSONNEL THERE, BUT ALL STATISTICS, PERSONNEL, MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES. 
          SO THIS IS, UH, AND YOU SEE DEPARTMENT HEAD AS CHIEF DYNE FOR A TOTAL OF 60,000. 
          THIS IS BRAND NEW. 
          THIS IS ENDEAVOR HEALTH SERVICES. 
          AND THEY ARE GOING TO PROVIDE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, AS WELL AS THE VILLAGES OF BLAZEDALE AND THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURG. 
          UH, THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT ENDEAVOR HAS IN WEST SENECA CHIA, UM, TOWANA AND THE CITY OF BUFFALO. 
          EACH OF THOSE POLICE AGENCIES HAVE ANYWHERE FROM ONE TO THREE SOCIAL WORKERS THAT ARE ACTUALLY EMBEDDED IN THE DEPARTMENT. 
          THEY WILL HAVE A DESK IN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          IT'S UP TO THE POLICE AGENCY TO DECIDE WHAT ROLE THAT SOCIAL WORKER IS GOING TO HAVE. 
          MOST OF THEM, UH, DO HAVE ANY SOCIAL WORKERS ACCOMPANYING THE POLICE OFFICERS ON DIFFERENT TYPES OF CALLS. 
          THAT'LL BE DECIDED BY, BY CHIEF EZZ, AS WELL AS, UH, CHIEF, CHIEF BUREAU AND, AND CHIEF CREST, UH, HOW THEY WANNA WORK THAT OUT. 
          UM, SO IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN WEST SENECA AND IN CHIEF DAGA. 
          IT, A LOT OF THESE MENTAL HEALTH CALLS HAD RESULTED IN A POLICE OFFICER SPENDING A FEW HOURS WITH SOMEBODY TRANSPORTING THEM TO ECMC, AND THEN THE POLICE OFFICER AND THE PERSON THAT TRANSPORTED ARE LIKELY HOME AT ABOUT THE SAME TIME. 
          UM, AND NOBODY HAS ANY EXTRA SERVICES, AND THERE'S, THERE'S NO GOOD OUTCOME. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, SO THIS WILL HOPEFULLY REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT OUR POLICE OFFICERS WILL HAVE TO SPEND ON THESE TYPES OF CALLS. 
          UM, ALSO, UH, WE'RE HOPEFUL IT WILL REDUCE THE NUMBER OF CALLS, BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY CAN GET HOOKED UP WITH THE SERVICES THAT THEY NEED, THEY'RE LESS LIKELY TO BE INVOLVED WITH THE POLICE AGAIN. 
          UM, AND THEN YOU JUST HAVE THE, THE, UH, THE ADVANTAGE OF HAVING FOLKS THAT ARE IN THESE CRITICAL INCIDENTS THAT ARE, THAT ARE IN CRISES, THAT, THAT MAY BE ADMITTED TO ECMC. 
          UM, AND UPON DISCHARGE, IT'S PROVEN, UM, THAT IF THEY'RE REACHED OUT TO WITHIN 24 HOURS, THERE'S A MUCH LESS LIKELIHOOD OF A PERSON COMPLETING SUICIDE IF THEY HAVE AN OUTREACH FROM A SOCIAL WORKER WITHIN 24 HOURS. 
          SO YOU CAN'T PUT A PRICE TAG ON WHAT THAT'S GONNA COST. 
          BUT, UH, WE'RE CERTAINLY, UH, EXCITED ABOUT THAT. 
          AND IS THAT A, A FULL POSITION? IS THAT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF HOURS? IS THAT WHAT THAT 60 THOUSANDS FULL HOW MANY HOURS, OR? THAT'S ONE FULL TIME PERSON. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND, AND THAT'S DETERMINED TOO BY THE DEPARTMENT AS FAR AS WHAT HOURS THEY THINK. 
          IT'S NOT NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, THEY COME IN, SAY THE NINE TO FIVE, IF THEY SEE THAT 12 DAYS, AND THAT INCLUDES A WEEKEND, BUT THEY KIND OF WORK WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, SEE WHAT WORKS. 
          SO IS THE PERSON HIRED THROUGH ENDEAVOR THEN AND ASSIGNED? YEAH, BUT THEY'RE, THEY, SO ENDEAVOR HIRES THEM, BUT WE WILL INTERVIEW THEM. 
          UM, AND THEY 
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SAID IT, IT TAKES MONTHS TO FIND THE RIGHT FIT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, IT TAKES, TAKES MONTHS TO FIND A PART-TIME CLERK THESE DAYS, BUT, UM, IT, IT'LL, THEY SAID IT CAN TAKE AS MUCH AS SIX MONTHS BEFORE THEY FIND, BECAUSE IT'S GOTTA BE THE, THE RIGHT PERSON WITH THE RIGHT MENTALITY AND THE, THE RIGHT EXPERIENCE. 
          SO ARE THOSE SERVICES THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING ARE AS AN AGENCY, ARE THEY SUPPORTED BY FUNDING? OR IS THIS SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT FINDING FUNDING OUT THERE? OR GRANTS, SINCE WE'RE MAKING, UM, TAKING THIS STUFF THAT WOULD, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE HAD COME HERE ON BOARD, THAT WAS, WE WERE, WE HAD THEIR SERVICES, UM, THROUGH A, A GRANT PROGRAM, AND THEY, AND THERE WAS NO COST TO THE TOWN. 
          UM, SO IS THERE THE POTENTIAL EVEN TO EITHER INCREASE SERVICES BY GETTING SOME FUNDING YEAH. 
          OR THAT THIS MIGHT BE DECREASED? OR IS IT THAT THIS IS THE 60,000 BECAUSE ENDEAVOR HAS ALREADY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S SUPPORT AND FUNDING THAT'S COMING, UM, INTO ENDEAVOR DIRECTLY, WHICH AFFORDS US THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A FULL-TIME SOCIAL WORKER AT 60,000. 
          YEAH, I, UM, I, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY OTHER FUNDING THAT THEY MIGHT RECEIVE TO OFFSET THE COST OF, OF THIS PROGRAM. 
          UM, I DO KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY DON'T HAVE THE EMPLOYEE FRINGE, RIGHT. 
          THAT, THAT WE DO AS, AS A GOVERNMENT. 
          UM, SO THAT, THAT IS AN IMPACT. 
          AND I DO SEE THIS AS, AS A GRANT OPPORTUNITY. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IF, IF, IF WE CAN, UM, LIKE ANYTHING, IF WE CAN SHOW THE DATA, I MEAN, A $60,000 EMPLOYEE OR CONTRACT, IF, IF THAT CAN REDUCE EVEN HALF THE TIME THAT WE'RE PAYING SOMEBODY $160,000 TO DO, THEN THAT'S MM-HMM . 
          THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG WIN. 
          AND I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR THIS INDIVIDUAL, UM, IS MY UNDERSTANDING. 
          KAREN, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THIS TOO. 
          I WOULD THINK THAT IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR THIS INDIVIDUAL TO HAVE, UH, A RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ADVOCATE MM-HMM . 
          BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S SUCH A CORRELATION THERE TOO, ALONG THOSE, UM, THOSE CALLS. 
          AND SO THAT, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY AND I THINK IT'S A, IT WOULD BE A TERRIFIC OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD SOME OR, UH, COORDINATE SOME OF THOSE SERVICES. 
          AND I THINK THE BIG THING TOO, AND, AND TALKING TO THE CHIEF TOO, THIS IS NOT ONLY, UM, YOU KNOW, BRINGING UP THAT TIME THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE GETTING PEOPLE, THEY'RE THE RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED, BUT IT'S, THEY REALLY TAKE ON A LOT OF THE FOLLOW UP THAT POLICE DEPARTMENTS NOT ABLE TO DO WITH THE ON CALL THAT THEY TAKE. 
          SO, RIGHT. 
          UM, IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE TOWN'S VERSION OF THE FAMILY SUPPORT CENTER THAT A STUDENT MM-HMM . 
          YEAH. 
          AND IT'S VALUABLE SERVICES. 
          YEAH. 
          THEY'VE HAD GREAT SUCCESS IN . 
          RIGHT. 
          SO IN YOU, THIS IS, THIS IS REALLY, I BELIEVE IT'S THE ONLY POLICE RELATED, UM, LINE ITEM IN, IN THE A FUND. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, WE COULD HAVE, WE COULD HAVE PUT THIS IN THE B FUND AND THEN WE COULD HAVE, WE COULD HAVE CHARGED THE VILLAGES, BUT WE THOUGHT THIS WAS THE EASIEST, CLEANEST WAY TO DO IT. 
          WE WANNA REEVALUATE HOW IT WORKS AND WHAT WE GONNA DO NEXT YEAR. 
          WE CAN MM-HMM . 
          UH, BUT WE JUST PUT IT IN THERE AS THIS FUND IS PAID FOR BY TAXPAYERS FROM ALL THREE MUNICIPALITIES. 
          UM, SO I'D LIKE TO STOP HERE SINCE WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO, UH, SIX O'CLOCK. 
          WE DO HAVE A FEW MINUTES IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS. 
          UM, IF, IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN HERE NEXT WEEK AT FOUR 30, UH, LEMME KNOW. 
          SHOOT ME AN EMAIL, UM, AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE INFORMATION FOR IT. 
          I THINK THIS IS REALLY HELPFUL BECAUSE JUST THAT IT, IT, WE MIGHT SHARE A LOT OF THE SAME QUESTIONS ON CERTAIN ITEMS, AND SO THEN IT ALLOWS US WITHOUT HAVING TO CONTACT EACH CONTACT YOU OR, OR YOU INDIVIDUALLY. 
          SO I THINK THIS IS REALLY HELPFUL AND, AND PROVIDES THAT CLARIFICATION THAT'S VERY BENEFICIAL. 
          SURE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? ALRIGHT, THEN IT IS JUST ABOUT SIX O'CLOCK TYLER IS HERE. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, AS I MENTIONED, WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO TYLER FOR A LONG TIME. 
          PAT AND I, UH, WE'VE ALSO BEEN ABLE TO CONNECT TYLER WITH THE FOLKS THAT ARE DOING THE ACTUAL WORK. 
          THE FOLKS THAT, UM, WORK IN OUR FOLKS THAT OUR MECHANICS, OUR HEAD MECHANIC, ASSISTANT MECHANIC, DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR VEHICLES. 
          AND, UH, ENTERPRISE IS A VERY INTERESTING OPPORTUNITY, UH, WHICH WILL LIKELY SAVE THE TOWN SIGNIFICANT MONEY. 
          AND, UH, 
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WELL, HELLO EVERYBODY. 
          UM, THANK YOU FOR THE INTRODUCTION TO RANDY. 
          MY NAME'S TYLER KNE. 
          I'M AN ACCOUNT EXECUTIVE WITH ENTERPRISE FLEET MANAGEMENT. 
          UM, WE CURRENTLY PARTNER WITH, AS YOU'RE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH THE COUNTY OF ERIE. 
          UM, SO KIND OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE EXPLORING TODAY, UH, THROUGH EXTENSIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH, UH, SUPERVISOR HOPE AS WELL AS BOTH, UH, PAT SHAY. 
          UM, WE'RE GONNA BE WALKING THROUGH WHAT WE FEEL IS A VERY STRONG PROGRAM FOR THE FLEET OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, BOTH FINANCIALLY AS WELL AS OPERATIONALLY. 
          UM, A LITTLE BIT OF AN AGENDA OF, UH, WHAT WE'RE GONNA WALK THROUGH TODAY, JUST SO YOU GUYS ARE AWARE, IS FIRST WE'RE GONNA TAKE A LITTLE BIT A SYNOPSIS OF THE CURRENT FLEET SITUATION WITHIN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG. 
          SOME OF THE OBJECTIVES THAT WE'RE GONNA TRY TO ACCOMPLISH THROUGH THE ENTERPRISE FLEET MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, AS WELL AS THE, UH, FINANCIAL, AS WELL AS THE OPERATIONAL IMPLICATIONS THAT, UH, PROGRAM LIKE THIS COULD BRING ABOUT. 
          UM, AND NOT ONLY THAT, ALSO SOME OF THE SAFETY FACTORS THAT WOULD COME INTO PLAY WITH NEWER VEHICLES WITHIN THE FLEET. 
          UM, FROM THERE, WE'RE GONNA WALK INTO SOME OF THESE SOLUTIONS THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING FOR THE TOWN FLEET. 
          UM, WHAT GOES INTO THOSE SOLUTIONS, UM, AS WELL AS WHY WE'RE RECOMMENDING THEM. 
          AND THEN LASTLY, WE'RE GONNA WALK THROUGH THE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS. 
          THE 10 YEAR ANALYSIS THAT WE PUT TOGETHER, UH, WHEN CONVERSATIONS FIRST BEGAN BETWEEN MYSELF, UH, PAT AND RANDY, BASED OFF COMPLETED, IT WAS PROVIDED BY THE TOWN, UM, AND IT'S CURRENT FLEET TODAY. 
          SO I DO ASK THAT AS I GO THROUGH THIS, YOU JUST PULL OFF QUESTIONS UNTIL THE END. 
          UM, I'M GONNA TRY TO MAKE THIS A TIGHT 20 MINUTES OR LESS, AND THEN WE'LL WALK THROUGH A BIT OF A Q AND A SESSION AFTER THAT. 
          SO IF YOU ALL WANNA TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR PAMPHLET OR HERE ON THE SCREEN. 
          UH, FIRST THING WE'RE GONNA TALK THROUGH IS THE FLEET SYNOPSIS. 
          UM, CURRENT OVERVIEW OF THE TOWN FLEET, UH, BASICALLY FOOTAGE IS THAT THE FLEET'S VERY OLD. 
          UM, THE AVERAGE VEHICLE AGE IS A LITTLE OVER 10 YEARS. 
          UM, BASED OFF OF YOUR CURRENT PURCHASING PATTERN OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST TWO YEARS, IT WOULD TAKE YOU 11 AND A HALF YEARS TO CYCLE A VEHICLE OUT OF YOUR FLEET FROM START TO FINISH. 
          UM, AND IF WE LOOK AT THE OVERALL INCREMENTS, 10 YEARS OR OLDER, 49% OF YOUR VEHICLES FALL IN THAT CATEGORY, SIX YEARS OR OLDER, 75%, SO THREE QUARTERS. 
          UM, AND AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, OLDER VEHICLES WOULD TYPICALLY COMES ALONG WITH THAT AS HIGHER MAINTENANCE COSTS, HIGHER FUEL COSTS, UM, LESS RELIABILITY, WHICH ULTIMATELY MEANS LESS PRODUCTIVITY, MORE DOWNTIME, UM, AND OLDER VEHICLES TYPICALLY DON'T HAVE THE SAFETY FEATURES THAT SOME OF THESE NEWER VEHICLES THAT NEWER MODELS HAVE. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON PROACTIVELY REPLACING THESE VEHICLES AT A HAD A HIGHER CLIP AND ULTIMATELY DRAGGING THAT 11.4 YEAR CYCLE DOWN TO MORE OF A, UH, A FOUR YEAR OR LESS CYCLE, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE UNDER OBJECTIVES. 
          UM, AND ULTIMATELY WHAT THIS IS GONNA HELP DOING BY APPROACHING A PROGRAM LIKE THIS IS CREATE A MORE SUSTAINABLE AND LOWER, UH, ANNUAL FLEET COSTS. 
          UH, YEAR OVER YEAR, WITHIN THE FIRST YEAR, UM, WITHIN OUR RECOMMENDATION OF FIRST YEAR REPLACEMENT OF 50 VEHICLES, WE'RE EXPECTED, UM, AN OVER INFLUX OF CAPITAL OF 158,000 TO HELP OFFSET THE INITIAL INVESTMENT THAT COMES ALONG WITH APPROACHING AN AGGRESSIVE REPLACEMENT PLAN LIKE THIS TO HELP OFFSET THE INITIAL COSTS. 
          UM, AND THEN ULTIMATELY AS WELL REDUCING FUEL EFFICIENCY OR IMPROVING RATHER FUEL EFFICIENCY OR REDUCING FUEL COSTS BY 20% ONCE FULLY IMPLEMENTED. 
          AND REDUCING YOUR AVERAGE MONTHLY MAINTENANCE FROM WHAT IS PROJECTED RIGHT NOW AT 1 58 PER VEHICLE PER MONTH DOWN TO 53 69 PER VEHICLE PER MONTH. 
          AND WE'RE GONNA DO ALL OF THIS BY UTILIZING AN OPEN AND EQUITY LEASE STRUCTURE THAT HELPS MAXIMIZE USE BUSINESS CASH FLOW, UH, WITH THE TOWN AND ITS FLEET FUND. 
          UM, AND KIND OF MOVING ON BETWEEN, UH, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN ALL OF THOSE FACTORS, HOW DOES THIS ALL LOOK BIG PICTURE ONCE FULLY IMPLEMENTED? WELL, ONCE WE HIT THE ANALYSIS, YOU'LL SEE, UM, WHAT WE'RE PROJECTING IS AN OVERALL 10 YEAR SAVINGS OF $762,000 BY BEING MORE PROACTIVE ABOUT, ABOUT, ABOUT OUR FLEET REPLACEMENT PLAN, BUT ALSO BEYOND THE FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS OF WHAT THIS CAN BRING ABOUT. 
          IF YOU MOVED OUT TO THE NEXT PART OF THAT, WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE OF THE FLEET. 
          UM, SOME OF THE, THE STANDARDIZATIONS THAT HAVE HAPPENED OVER THE YEARS IN 2007, UH, WAS THE IMPLEMENTATION OR STANDARDIZATION RATHER OF THE INTE BRAKE SYSTEM. 
          20 VEHICLES IN YOUR FLEET PREDATE THAT. 
          UM, 2012, THE ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL STANDARDIZATION, 39 VEHICLES PREDATE THAT. 
          AND EVEN SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS THE BACKUP CAMERA IN 20 18 74 VEHICLES PREDATE THAT STANDARDIZATION. 
          SO WE'RE REALLY GONNA LOOK TO IMPROVE THE OVERALL SAFETY OF THE FLEET THROUGH THE, UH, THROUGH THE PROGRAM LIKE THIS. 
          UM, AND FROM AN RFP AND FROM A DUE DILIGENCE PERSPECTIVE, WE'RE GONNA PIGGYBACK OFF THE SOURCE FULL RFP THAT WAS AWARDED NATIONWIDE TO ENTERPRISE FLEET MANAGEMENT AS THE PREFERRED FLEET MANAGEMENT PROVIDER. 
          AND THEN MOVING INTO OUR FLEET SOLUTIONS, UM, UNDER DELIVERING SOLUTIONS. 
          DRIVING RESULTS, UM, ARE SOME OF THE, UH, ITEMS THAT ENTERPRISE CAN BRING, UH, 
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SERVICES TO THE TOWN FOR. 
          UM, THE MAIN ITEMS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE FOCUSING ON ARE ACQUISITION, UH, FINANCING AND CREDIT ALLIANCE, UH, FUEL PROGRAMS, MAINTENANCE PROGRAMS, VEHICLE RESALE, AFTERMARKET VEHICLE CUSTOMIZATION, AS WELL AS LICENSING, TITLING AND REGISTRATION. 
          IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE OFFER DRIVER SAFETY, ACCIDENT RISK MANAGEMENT, TELEMATICS, BUT THIS IS NOT A, AN ALL OR NOTHING SOLUTION. 
          UH, THIS IS A CAFETERIA STYLE, A LA CARTE SOLUTION, IN WHICH CASE WE PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION IN WHICH WE FEEL IS GONNA BE THE STRONGEST PROGRAM FOR THE TOWN AND THE TOWN ANSWERS IN TURN WHAT THEY FEEL IS GONNA WORK BEST BOTH FINANCIALLY AND NOT OPERATIONALLY FOR THEM AS WELL. 
          AND THEN WE IMPLEMENT THAT SOLUTION, UM, THROUGH ENTERPRISE FLEET MANAGEMENT. 
          SO MOVING INTO THE ACQUISITION SIDE OF THINGS, UH, HOW DOES ENTERPRISE ACQUIRE ITS VEHICLE INVOICE? WELL, WE DO SO BY FACTORY ORDERING, UH, ORDERING DIRECT FROM THE MANUFACTURER. 
          AND THIS ALLOWS US TO DO A COUPLE OF THINGS. 
          FIRST THING IS, UH, IT ALLOWS US TO ORDER THESE VEHICLES EXACTLY TO YOUR SPECIFICATIONS WITHOUT THE RISK OF OVERSPENDING ON UNNECESSARY FEATURES OR POTENTIALLY RECEIVING A VEHICLE THAT IS UNDER EQUIPMENT, PERFORM THE TASK. 
          UM, WHAT IT ALSO ALLOWS US TO DO IS FOCUS ON ALL MAKES AND MODELS AND GIVE THOSE ACCESS TO ALL MANUFACTURERS. 
          UM, SO WHENEVER WE'RE SITTING TOGETHER AND PUTTING TOGETHER A PLAN, WE'LL IDENTIFY WHAT TASK THE VEHICLE NEEDS TO ACHIEVE AND WE'LL SEE WHAT VEHICLES FALL INTO THAT BUCKET, WHICH ONES CHECK ALL THOSE BOXES. 
          AND THEN FROM THERE, YOUR CLIENT STRATEGY MANAGER, WHO IN THIS CASE WOULD BE CHRISTINA CHAVA, UH, SHE MANAGES THE ERIE COUNTY FLEET. 
          SHE WOULD SIT DOWN WITH THE INVESTED PARTIES AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE SIX VEHICLES, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT FALL INTO THESE CATEGORIES. 
          AND WE'LL RUN A SIDE BY SIDE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS ON EACH AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF 'EM SO WE CAN DETERMINE WHICH ONE OPERATES THE LOWEST TOTAL COST OF OWNERSHIP POSSIBLE. 
          BUT ULTIMATELY WE'RE JUST THERE TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION AND BRING THE DATA TO YOU. 
          THE DECISION MAKING POWER STILL LIES WITH THE TOWN ON WHAT VEHICLES IT OPERATES AND HOW LONG IT OPERATES THEM FOR. 
          BUT IN THIS INSTANCE, CHRISTINA WILL BE BRINGING THAT OUR DATA TO YOU TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WAY YOU HAVE A, UH, AN INFORMED YOU CAN MAKE WHEN IT COMES TO OPERATING THE TOWN SUITE, WHICH VEHICLES WE'RE ACQUIRING. 
          UM, FROM THERE, PART A BIG PART OF WHAT COMES INTO THE OVERALL TOTAL COST OF OWNERSHIP OF OWNING A VEHICLE IS THE INCENTIVE STRATEGY. 
          UM, AS A GOVERNMENT ENTITY THROUGH ENTERPRISE FLEET MANAGEMENT, WE'LL STILL BE FULLY ELIGIBLE FOR ALL GOVERNMENT INCENTIVES THAT MANUFACTURERS OFFER. 
          UM, SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON THOSE. 
          WE WILL ALSO FOCUS ON IS PROACTIVE ORDER TIME AND A TYPICAL YEAR ORDER BANKS ARE OPEN FOR EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME THROUGH A MANUFACTURER. 
          UM, LAST COUPLE OF YEARS IT'S BEEN A VERY SHORT WINDOW. 
          SO PROACTIVE IS THE KEY WORD THERE, BEING READY AND BEING PREPARED. 
          UM, BUT AT A TYPICAL YEAR, INTRODUCTORY PRICING AT THE BEGINNING OF THOSE ORDER BANKS OPENING IS WHAT YIELDS THE BEST OVERALL ACQUISITION PRICE. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MINIMIZING THE OVERALL COST OF OPERATING THE FLEET. 
          AND THEN FROM THERE, AFTERMARKET VEHICLE CUSTOMIZATION WILL SIT DOWN THROUGH A STRATEGIC MEETING WITH RESPECT TO PARTIES SUCH AS DEPARTMENT HEADS AND DETERMINE HOW THESE VEHICLES NEED TO BEFITTED WE'LL HANDLE A LOGISTIC PROCESS ON THEIR BEHALF. 
          SO THESE VEHICLES ARRIVE TO TURNKEY READY TO OPERATE FROM FUNDING PERSPECTIVE, UM, I HAD REFERENCED THE OPEN AND EQUITY LEASE STRUCTURE, UM, NOT TOO LONG AGO. 
          SO THIS IS A SEPARATE LINE ITEM CREDIT SPECIFICALLY FOR ACQUIRING VEHICLES THAT ALLOWS YOU TO MAXIMIZE THE USEFULNESS OF THE CASH ON HAND TO BE MORE AGGRESSIVE ABOUT YOUR REPLACEMENT PLAN. 
          UM, AND UNLIKE YOUR TYPICAL DEALERSHIP LEASE, THERE'S NO MILEAGE PENALTIES, NO SET IN STONE, UH, UH, LEASE TERMINATION, UH, PERIODS, UM, AND THERE'S NO WEAR AND TEAR PENALTIES AS WELL. 
          SO BASICALLY YOU CAN OPERATE THEM HOWEVER YOU WANT TO, JUST IF YOU OWN THEM WITHOUT A LOT OF THE INITIAL CASH EXPENDITURE OF PURCHASING THROUGH CASH. 
          UM, WHICH ALLOWS YOU, AGAIN, TO BE MORE AGGRESSIVE, YOUR REPLACEMENT PLAN AND EVERY PAYMENT THAT YOU MAKE THROUGH A BUILDING EQUITY INTO THAT VEHICLE. 
          SO YOU STILL RETAIN RIGHTS TO ALL EQUITY, UM, AT THE TIME OF THAT VEHICLE, UH, LEAVING YOUR FLEET. 
          AND FROM THERE WE WILL RESELL THAT VEHICLE ON YOUR BEHALF, WHATEVER THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN WHAT WE SELL IT FOR, AND REDUCE BOOK VALUE ON THAT LEASE TERM. 
          IT'S GONNA BE EQUITY THAT YOU CAN EITHER TAKE AS A FORM OF A CHECK AND ALLOCATE TO WHEREVER WITHIN THE TOWN NEEDS CAPITAL FUNDS, OR YOU CAN KEEP IT WITHIN THE FLEET AND ROLL IT OVER, UM, INTO THE REPLACEMENT VEHICLE TO FURTHER REDUCE YOUR OVERALL EXPENDITURE WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR VEHICLE FLEET. 
          IN ADDITION TO THAT, IT'S GOT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT TITLE BENEFITS, WHICH I WON'T BORE YOU WITH THE, THE ADMINISTRATIVE PIECE OF IT. 
          UM, BUT, UH, ENTERPRISE ULTIMATE TITLE, WHICH MAKES IT EASIER TO BUY AND SELL VEHICLES AT EQUIPMENT. 
          BUT, UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE BEING MORE AGGRESSIVE WITH OUR, OUR REPLACEMENT PLAN AND MOVING ON TO VEHICLE DISPOSAL, THAT IS A, A BIG PIECE OF THAT, THAT EQUITY PIECE. 
          UM, ONE OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE PARTS ABOUT OPERATING THE VEHICLE OUTSIDE OF THE OPERATING COST IS DEPRECIATION. 
          UM, AND THE BEST WAY TO HELP, UH, MINIMIZE THE DEPRECIATION EXPECT IS ON THE ACQUISITION SIDE AS WELL AS HOW MUCH WE'RE GETTING ON THE BACK END OF THE RESALE VALUE. 
          AND WE HAVE A TEAM OF OUR MARKETING PROFESSIONALS WHOSE SOLE RESPONSIBILITY AND JOB EVERY DAY TO SELL VEHICLES. 
          AND THEY'RE RANKED ON HOW QUICKLY THEY CAN SELL 'EM AND FOR HOW MUCH THEY CAN SELL 'EM. 
          UM, AND PRIMARILY THEY'RE GONNA GO DIRECT THROUGH DEALERSHIPS. 
          THEY DO THAT 85% OF THE TIME. 
          AND THE REASON THAT WE DO THAT AND FOUND THAT WE CAN GET A HIGHER VALUE IN RETURN WHEN WE DO SO, UM, ON AVERAGE, HISTORICALLY WE OUTPERFORM 
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THE BLACK BOOK CBI BY 109%, WHICH THOSE OF YOU WHO AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH BLACK BOOK CBI THINK KELLEY BLUE BOOK, BUT JUST FOR THE COMMERCIAL SPACE. 
          AND ULTIMATELY WHAT THAT ALLOWS US TO DO IS MINIMIZE THE OVERALL APPRECIATION EXPENSE THAT THE TOWN INCURS. 
          'CAUSE IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, I MEAN, IF WE SELL A VEHICLE FOR $20,000, LET'S JUST FOR EASY MATH AROUND THAT TO 10%, $2,000 A VEHICLE, OVER A HUNDRED VEHICLES, $200,000, WE COULD ULTIMATELY HELP SAVE, UH, THE TOWN OF HAMBURG JUST ON THE RESALE SIDE OF THINGS. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE THIS TEAM COMES INTO PLAY TO HELP MINIMIZE THE REAL WORLD APPRECIATION EXPENSE. 
          AND BEYOND THAT, TAKE THAT PART OF FLEET MANAGEMENT OFF THE HANDS OF YOUR TEAM. 
          SO WE FOCUS MORE ON PROJECT CRITICAL ITEMS THAT ARE HAPPENING THROUGHOUT THE TOWN. 
          NEXT THING WE'RE GONNA TOUCH ON IS OPERATING EXPENSES, STARTING WITH MAINTENANCE. 
          THE MAIN ITEM WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON HERE ON THAT SCREEN IS THE MIDDLE, UH, MAINTENANCE MANAGEMENT BIT. 
          UH, THIS IS A PAY AS YOU GO MAINTENANCE PROGRAM, WHICH ALLOWS YOU TO DO A COUPLE OF THINGS. 
          UM, YOU CAN CONTINUE TO OUTSOURCE THE MAINTENANCE, UH, SERVICES THAT ARE HAPPENING TODAY, UH, THROUGH OUR MAINTENANCE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. 
          UM, AND YOU CAN ALSO CONTINUE TO UTILIZE YOUR IN-HOUSE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM, UM, FOR ANY VEHICLES THAT ARE CURRENTLY, UH, UTILIZING THE IN-HOUSE MAINTENANCE FACILITIES. 
          BUT WHAT IT ALLOWS US TO DO IS START TO ACCUMULATE DATA, UH, DATA ON YOUR MAINTENANCE, SPENDING DATA, DATA ON YOUR LABOR HOURS. 
          UM, AND WHAT THAT'S GONNA ALLOW CHRISTINA TO DO YOUR CLIENT STRATEGY. 
          YEAH, YOUR CLIENT STRATEGY MANAGER IS HELP BRING RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE TABLE BASED OFF HARD DATA. 
          UM, THAT'S APPLYING DIRECTLY TO YOUR FLEET TO MAKE STRONGER RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE FUTURE, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, A FLEET REPLACEMENT PLAN. 
          UM, SO THAT'S GONNA BE, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BIGGER PARTS OF THE, UH, THE SYSTEM HERE IS START TRACKING WHAT'S HAPPENING IN-HOUSE AND START TRACKING WHAT'S HAPPENING WHEN YOU'RE OUTSOURCING SO THAT WE CAN MAKE STRONGER, MORE INFORMED DECISIONS BASED OFF OF YOUR CURRENT FLEET, UH, OPERATIONS TODAY. 
          AND THEN LASTLY, WE'RE GONNA TALK A BIT ABOUT THE, UH, FUEL PROGRAM. 
          PRETTY SIMPLE THERE. 
          UH, IT'S A FUEL PROGRAM FOR RIDE EXPRESS. 
          SO ANY BULK FUELING THAT YOU'RE DOING TODAY WITH IN-HOUSE FUEL PUMPS, YOU CAN CONTINUE TO UTILIZE, UH, THOSE PUMPS. 
          ANY OUTSOURCING FUELING TODAY WILL GO ON A RIDE EXPRESS CAR, EASY TO USE FOR DRIVERS HELP WITH DATA TRAVELING AS WELL. 
          AND IT'S A CENTRALIZED PLACE TO HAVE A FUEL EXPENSES RIGHT ON OUR CUSTOMER WEBSITE ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAINTENANCE EXPENSES AS WELL. 
          AND THEN LAST THING, WE'RE GONNA TOUCH ON THE BIG ITEM HERE. 
          WHAT'S IT GONNA COST? WHAT'S THE SAVINGS OPPORTUNITY? UM, OVER A 10 YEAR PERIOD, AS YOU CAN SEE THAT NUMBER HERE, $762,000. 
          THAT IS PROJECTED 10 YEAR SAVINGS BY APPROACHING A PROGRAM THROUGH ENTERPRISE FLEET MANAGEMENT. 
          UM, WHAT I WANNA BACKTRACK A LITTLE BIT ONTO IS HOW WE BUILT THIS ANALYSIS JUST SO YOU GUYS CAN HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT ALL HAS GONE INTO THIS. 
          UM, WE FOCUS ON 103 LIGHT AND MEDIUM DUTY VEHICLES. 
          AND WHEN I SAY LIGHT AND MEDIUM DUTY VEHICLES, THINK ANYTHING FROM A CHEVY SPARK ALL THE WAY UP TO A FORD F SEVEN 50. 
          UM, SO 103 VEHICLES FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY. 
          AGAIN, YOUR CURRENT CYCLE TIME AT NINE VEHICLES PER YEAR, UM, COMES DOWN TO 11.44. 
          UM, AVERAGE TIME THAT IT TAKES YOU TO, TO BUY A VEHICLE TO THE POINT THAT IT GETS SOLD. 
          UM, AND YOUR CURRENT MAINTENANCE IS AT ABOUT $158 PER VEHICLE PER MONTH. 
          NOW THAT IS BASED OFF OF A LITTLE BIT BELOW THE INDUSTRY AVERAGE FROM MUNICIPALITIES, WHICH IS 20 CENTS PER MILE OVER 9,500 MILES PER YEAR. 
          UH, THAT'S HOW WE GOT THAT 1 58 33. 
          UM, IN LOOKING AT CURRENT MILES PER GALLON, WE DID A BASELINE OF 10 WITH A RELATIVE INCREASE OF SIX MILES PER GALLON. 
          SO WE'RE JUST COMPARING 10 VERSUS 16 FOR A CURRENT OWNED VEHICLE VERSUS A NEW VEHICLE TO SEE WHAT THAT FUEL SAVINGS WOULD BE. 
          AND THE PRICE PER GALLON WE INITIALLY USED WAS 4 35. 
          NOW THAT WAS AT THE TIME THAT WE BUILT THIS ANALYSIS. 
          UH, THE CURRENT AVERAGE IS 3 88 RIGHT NOW. 
          UH, BUT THAT WOULD BE A RELATIVE CHANGE TO BOTH SIDES OF THE, UH, THE OVERALL FUEL COLUMNS, UM, IF WE WERE TO REDUCE THAT. 
          SO WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT WHAT THE, THE POTENTIAL SAVINGS OPPORTUNITY IS THERE. 
          UM, POST CYCLE AT 3.89 YEARS AND PROPOSED MAINTENANCE WHEN REDUCING THE AVERAGE CYCLE TIME FROM THAT 11.4 TO 3.89 DROPS FROM 1 58 PER VEHICLE PER MONTH DOWN TO 53 69 PER VEHICLE PER MONTH. 
          UM, SO HOW DOES THAT ALL CALCULATE INTO OUR BASELINE? WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT GOLD LINE AT THE VERY TOP FLEET SIZE OF 103 VEHICLES, ANNUAL NEEDS OF NINE, WHICH IS WHAT YOUR AVERAGE PURCHASE IS TODAY, UM, AT 40,000 PER VEHICLE, WHICH IS THE AVERAGE CURRENT PRICE OF THE VEHICLE MIXED WITHIN YOUR FLEET, THAT PURCHASE LINE IS $362,000 PER YEAR. 
          YOUR MAINTENANCE AT 1 58 33 ON 9,500 MILES ON 103 VEHICLES OF $195,000 PER YEAR FUEL AT 10 MILES PER GALLON. 
          AND 4 35 PER GALLON IS 4 25 60. 
          UH, 6 48 BRING US TO AN OVERALL FLEET BUDGET OF 9 84 0 7 2. 
          NOW, WHEN WE START UNROLLING THE ENTERPRISE SUITE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM PROGRAM, OUR INITIAL RECOMMENDATION IS TO REPLACE PEOPLE THAT ARE 12 YEARS OR OLDER OR HAVE OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND MILES. 
          UM, AND OF THOSE 50 VEHICLES, THERE'S AN EQUITY POSITION OF ABOUT $158,000. 
          AND I REFERENCED THAT EARLIER, WE'RE GONNA UTILIZE THAT EQUITY TO OFFSET THE INITIAL EXPENDITURE OF APPROACHING A, UH, A PROGRAM LIKE THIS. 
          SO YOUR INITIAL LEASE EXPENSE 
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FIRST YEAR, WE'RE LOOKING AT 4 88 800 OFFSET WITH $158,000 TO HELP PRODUCE THAT INITIAL CAPITAL EXPENDITURE. 
          BUT IN THAT FIRST YEAR, ONE OF THE BIGGEST SAVINGS COMES FROM THE OPERATING COSTS. 
          MAINTENANCE GOES FROM 195,000 TO 132,000, FUEL GOES FROM 4 25 TO THREE FOUR BRING US AN OVERALL NET CASH SAVINGS IN THAT FIRST YEAR COMPARED TO OUR BASELINE OF $136,000. 
          UM, THAT THAT PROGRAM CONTINUES 19 VEHICLES IN YEAR TWO. 
          AND THROUGH THOSE 19 VEHICLES, WE HAVE A PROJECTED EQUITY OF $80,000, BUT WE HAVE SOME SHORT CYCLING OPPORTUNITIES, UM, FOR SOME OF THE VEHICLES WITHIN YEAR FLEET. 
          AND I SAY SHORT CYCLING, I MEAN 12 YEAR LEASE PERIODS, OR NOT 12 YEAR, 12 MONTH, PARDON ME, UH, LEASE PERIODS. 
          AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THE FLEXIBILITY TO OPEN-END EQUITY LEASE COMES IN IS TO SHORT CYCLE LEASE VEHICLES, UM, AND, AND GET THEM OUTTA YOUR FLEET AND CAPITALIZE ON EQUITY OPPORTUNITIES THAT EXIST. 
          AND WITHIN THOSE, THOSE, UH, THOSE VEHICLES, LEASE LEASED EQUITY IS AT 209,000. 
          MAINTENANCE AGAIN, DROPS FROM 1 32 TO 1 0 9 FUEL 3 84 360 8 FOR A, UH, YEAR TWO NET CASH SAVINGS COMPARED TO OUR BASELINE OF 1 46. 
          AND YOU SEE THAT THAT PROGRAM JUST KIND OF UNFOLDS. 
          UM, SOME OF THESE YEARS ARE GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN OTHERS, BUT ULTIMATELY THE NET CASH SAVINGS IS, IS THE SAME, THAT $762,000 AND WHAT'S FULLY IMPLEMENTED, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE WHEN WE'RE NOT SELLING OUR PURCHASE VEHICLES ANYMORE? WE'RE STRICTLY REPLACING LEASE VEHICLES, UM, ONCE FULLY IMPLEMENTED. 
          THE AVERAGE SUSTAINABLE SAVINGS IS AT $16,000 PER YEAR COMPARED TO WHAT YOU'RE SPENDING TODAY. 
          AND YOU'RE OPERATING VEHICLES AT A CYCLE OF 3.89 YEARS INSTEAD OF 11.4 YEARS AND OPERATING A NEWARK SAFER AND MORE RELIABLE FLEET FOR THE, UH, THE EMPLOYEES OF THE TOWN. 
          SO I KNOW I JUST THREW A LOT YOUR WAY. 
          DRINK IT IN. 
          UM, AND YOU KNOW, I WANNA OPEN THE DOOR FOR, FOR ANY QUESTIONS, UH, IN REGARDS TO THE PROGRAM WHEN IT'S 103 CARS. 
          DOES THAT ANYTHING TO EVERYONE? SO THAT INCLUDES, SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 
          SO OF THOSE 103, UM, THAT'S LIGHT ME MEDIUM BEAUTY VEHICLES THAT HAVE ACCURATE REAL NUMBERS. 
          SO THE LIST IS MORE LIKE 125, BUT OF THOSE 1 25, 22, THEY NEED HAVE ACCURATE VIN NUMBERS. 
          SO DATA TRACKING, AGAIN, BEING ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT WE WANNA FOCUS ON, UM, IT'S HARDER TO IMPROVE SOMETHING IF WE'RE NOT TRACKING IT RIGHT NOW. 
          WE DON'T HAVE VIN NUMBERS FOR 23 OF THESE VEHICLES. 
          UM, SO THOSE 103 ARE FOCUSING ON THOSE LIGHT MEDIUM DUTY VEHICLES THAT, UH, THAT DID HAVE ACCURATE VIN NUMBERS THAT WE GET OUT THERE RESALE VALUES ON. 
          OKAY, SO IT'S FROM EVERY DEPARTMENT THOUGH INCLUDES HIGHWAY B AND G POLICE? CORRECT. 
          UM, SO, SO WITH THE POLICE THOUGH, HOPE THEY PUT ON SIGNIFICANTLY MORE MILES VEHICLE. 
          SO THAT IMPACT THOUGH. 
          SO THEY DO, THEY PUT ON MORE MILES AND THEY PUT ON MORE ENGINES ON BECAUSE THEY'RE OFTEN IDLING, UH, TO, TO RUN THEIR EQUIPMENT. 
          UM, HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE FINANCING, UH, THE OPEN-END EQUITY LEASE, IT'S REALLY NOT ALL THAT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. 
          THE DIFFERENCE WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS THE POLICE WILL BUY A FORD EXPLORER AND THEN AT THE END, AND THEN WE OWN THE FORD EXPLORER AFTER WE, WE PURCHASE IT, WE PURCHASE IT OUTRIGHT. 
          THEY USE IT FOR TWO YEARS AND THEN THEREFORE EXPLORER, WHICH IS HEAVIER, BIGGER, MORE EXPENSIVE, THEN GETS HAND DOWN TO BUILDING INSPECTION OR ENGINEERING. 
          THEY'RE DRIVING A HEAVIER, MORE EXPENSIVE WELL ARMORED VEHICLE TO INSPECT HOUSING AND SEWER LINES. 
          UM, SO REGARDLESS, WE'RE GONNA BE PUTTING MILES AND ENGINE HOURS ON THESE VEHICLES, WHETHER WE PAY FOR THEM UPFRONT IN CASH OR IF WE LEASE 'EM OVER TIME. 
          THE COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, UH, HAS 400, UH, FLEET MANAGED VEHICLES WITH ENTERPRISE. 
          200 OF THOSE VEHICLES ARE THE, UM, PATROL CARS FOR ERIE COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, AND THEY LEASE THOSE VEHICLES FOR, FOR TWO YEARS. 
          UM, AND THAT INCLUDES ALL, ALL THE OUTFITTING AND UPGRADES IN A, IN A TYPICAL POLICE CRUISER. 
          SO WE WERE ABLE TO, UM, PAT, MYSELF, ED HUGHES, WERE ABLE TO SIT DOWN, UH, WITH COMMISSIONER GEARING FROM DPW AND, UH, AND TALK ABOUT HOW THE PROGRAM'S WORKING TO THE COUNTY. 
          SO, GO AHEAD. 
          DO YOU NEED PLOWS FOR ME? YEAH, YEAH. 
          THE PLOWS ARE, PLOWS ARE AN OPTION. 
          UM, NOT THE BIG PLOW, NOT THE, NOT THE MASSIVE PLOWS, YEAH, TYPICALLY, YEAH, TYPICALLY NOT THE BIG, UH, BIG PLOW TER. 
          UM, BUT YEAH, YOUR, YOUR PARKING LOT PLOWS REPORT M 2 53 50 AND, AND IN THAT RANGE WE DO, UH, ALLOW FOR PLOWS 
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AND SALTERS, JUST NOT THE, THE GIGANTIC BONDS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I NOTICED THERE'S A FEW YEARS IN YOUR GRAPH WHERE IT'S TALKING ABOUT THE ANNUAL NET CASH THAT ARE SIGNIFICANT REQUIRES WHERE THERE'S A YEAR WE'LL HAVE A NET BENEFIT OF 420,000, BUT THEN TWO YEARS LATER WE'LL HAVE AN EXPENDITURE OF 180,000 MM-HMM . 
          WHAT CAUSES THE DRASTIC CHANGES? BECAUSE THERE'S ANOTHER DRASTIC CHANGE FURTHER DOWN. 
          YEAH, SO THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 
          SO ULTIMATELY, THAT COMES DOWN TO KIND OF WAVES IN THE CYCLING PLAN AND BIGGER YEARS OF REPLACEMENT, WHICH WE'RE CAPTURING MORE . 
          SO PART OF THE ROLE OF YOUR, YOUR CLIENT STRATEGY MANAGER CHRISTINA, IS GOING TO BE TO, TO SIT DOWN AND FLEET PLAN FOR THE YEAR AHEAD. 
          AND THEN THAT WILL ALSO JUST KIND OF TAKE A LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHERE THERE'S GONNA BE BIG OUTLIERS, UM, OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. 
          SO THERE WILL BE SITUATIONS, SO FOR EXAMPLE, IN THIS MODEL, THIS IS JUST A STRAIGHT EXCHANGE OF FUNDS FROM A POSITIVE TO A NEGATIVE. 
          THAT'S AS IF YOU'RE, YOU'RE JUST TAKING ALL THIS MONEY IN ONE YEAR AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE ONLY SEEING THAT SAVINGS OVER ONE YEAR. 
          YOU CAN TAKE THAT $420,000 AND BUILD IT INTO COMPLETE, UH, LEASE PAYMENT TO HELP REDUCE THAT LEASE LINE ITEM TO A LOWER NUMBER AND MAKE THAT SAVINGS MORE SPREAD OUT. 
          SO THAT WAY WE'RE NOT SEEING THAT, UM, IN OUR OVERALL NET CASH BENEFIT AND MORE, MORE EITHER DEAD EVEN OR WE'RE BACK INTO THE POSITIVE OF A SAVINGS OPPORTUNITY AGAIN. 
          SO IT ALL DEPENDS ON HOW YOU STRUCTURE, UM, THAT SAVINGS YEAR AND WHERE YOU PUT THOSE FUNDS. 
          UM, AND THAT'LL BE PART OF CHRISTINE'S JOB IS TO HELP ADVISE YOU ON THAT. 
          SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, IN YEAR 2028 WE'RE LOOKING AT 188 GRAND NEGATIVE. 
          LIKE WE GOTTA SPREAD THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT. 
          WE HAVE $420,000 OPPORTUNITIES THIS YEAR, UM, TO WHERE WE CAN POTENTIALLY ROLL THAT EQUITY OVER INTO EXISTING VEHICLES AND REDUCE OUR MONTHLY PAYMENTS AND GET THAT CLOSER TO A POSITIVE. 
          SO THAT'LL BE PART OF THE ADVISORY PORTION OF YOUR, YOUR CLIENT STRATEGY MANAGER. 
          THIS, THIS MODEL ISN'T SET IN STONE, IT'S MORE OF A PROOF OF CONCEPT OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IF WE WERE TO PLAY THIS OUT. 
          UM, BUT IT'S A LIVING BRIEFING PLAN THAT WE CAN BE FLEXIBLE ON. 
          IS THAT 195,700 THEN OUR ACTUAL NUMBER THAT WE SPENT SAY IN 2022 A HUNDRED MAINTENANCE IN THE YELLOW? CORRECT. 
          SO THAT'S, WELL, SO THAT'S A PROJECTED NUMBER. 
          THE, THE MAINTENANCE DATA RIGHT NOW DOES NOT EXIST ON MOST OF THE FLEET. 
          UM, SO WHAT THIS IS, IS 2020 2 CENTS IS ACTUALLY THE INDUSTRY, UM, AVERAGE BASED OFF OF BOTH OUR INTERNAL DATA AS WELL AS EXTERNAL DATA, UM, FOR MUNICIPALITIES. 
          SO WE BACKED THAT OFF TO 20 CENTS TO BE MORE CONSERVATIVE. 
          BUT JUST TO CLARIFY, SO THAT'S AN ESTIMATE, THAT'S NOT AN ACTUAL, UH, TOWN NUMBER. 
          CORRECT. 
          THAT IS AN ESTIMATE. 
          AND THEN WHEN WE GO TO FUEL 425,648 MM-HMM . 
          IS THAT THE ACTUAL COST OF THE TOWN AVERAGES ANNUALLY OR IS THAT AN ESTIMATE? SO THAT'S AN ESTIMATE, AGAIN, BASED OFF OF THE, THE CURRENT OF 10 WITH A PRICE PER GALLON, 4 35. 
          UM, SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE, THE SAVINGS, THE CHANGE THERE THAT HAPPENS, WE'RE JUST COMPARING 10 MILES A GALLON AT THE SAME PRICE VERSUS 16 MILES A GALLON AT THE SAME PRICE. 
          SO THE, THE SAVINGS THERE IS RELATIVE TO WHATEVER YOU CHANGED IT TO, BUT YEAH, THAT'S ALSO AN ESTIMATE. 
          AND THEN THIS 984,072, THE FLEET BUDGET MM-HMM . 
          IS THAT THE ACTUAL COST OF THE TOWN IS SPENT OR IS THAT AN ESTIMATE? SO THAT'S AN ESTIMATE BASED OFF OF TODAY'S DOLLARS. 
          SO WHAT, I MEAN, WE COULD GO BACK AND WE COULD LOOK AT THE EXACT NUMBER OF WHAT THE TOWN HAS SPENT OVER THE YEARS AND WE'LL SEE THAT IT FLUCTUATES. 
          BUT THE BIG THING THAT WE'RE GONNA SEE IS PRICES OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS HAVE DRASTICALLY INCREASED. 
          SO WE'RE NOT COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES. 
          SO THE BEST THAT WE CAN DO IS TAKE WHAT EVERYTHING COSTS IN TODAY'S DOLLARS AND CREATE A BASELINE, UH, FOR FUTURE COMPARISONS. 
          AND THAT'S ALL THAT THIS DOES. 
          IT'S JUST LIKE I SAID, FOR PROOF OF CONCEPT TO SEE IN TODAY'S DOLLAR BASED OFF AVERAGE VEHICLE PRICE, BASED OFF AVERAGE FUEL EXPENDITURE AND MAINTENANCE COSTS, WHAT ARE WE ROUGHLY GONNA BE SPENDING THIS YEAR AND COMPARE THAT TO THE FUTURE GOING FORWARD. 
          BUT TO DO THAT, TO COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES, WE WOULD HAVE TO ALSO ASSUME THAT IF WE DID IT OURSELF, WE WOULD ALSO BE BUYING LOWER, UH, FUEL EFFICIENT, AND OUR MILES PER GALLON WOULD BE LESS AND OUR SAFETY WOULD BE LESS. 
          CORRECT, YES. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE THE YEAH, EXACTLY. 
          SO I JUST WANNA CAUTION PEOPLE THAT THAT 762,000, OUR SAVINGS LOOKS AMAZING, BUT IF WE REALLY WANNA FIND THE ACTUAL COST, WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE ACTUALLY SPENT, NOT ESTIMATE. 
          WE'D HAVE TO COMPARE WHAT WOULD THE FORWARD A DECADE OF US ALSO PURCHASING LOWER COST, MORE FUEL EFFICIENT GOING FORWARD TO TRULY GET A MORE ACCURATE PICTURE. 
          NOT TO SAY THAT THIS WOULDN'T HAVE SAVINGS, BUT THIS NUMBER HERE IS BASED ON A LOT, SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT ASSUMPTIONS OVER A DECADE. 
          I THINK THE BIGGEST SAVINGS, JUST FROM, FROM MY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS PROGRAM TOO, IS IN THE MAINTENANCE COSTS. 
          NOW THAT'S AN ESTIMATED MAINTENANCE COST, BUT I WOULD, 
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IF WE HAD THE MECHANISM TO GAUGE THE MAINTENANCE COST, IT'S LIKELY MORE, IT'S MORE OF THE, THE TIME, YOU KNOW, OF, OF HAVING IT DOWN. 
          UM, SO I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE LARGEST SAVINGS IS THE MAINTENANCE COST OF BEING ABLE TO HAVE A NEWER VEHICLE EVERY THREE YEARS. 
          AND THESE, THESE FIGURES ARE, I MEAN, THEY COME FROM THE, THE VEHICLES THAT ENTERPRISE CURRENTLY MANAGES, CORRECT. 
          SOLY MANAGE, AND NOT EVEN JUST THOSE, BECAUSE MOST OF THE ONES WE CURRENTLY MANAGE, THOSE ARE GONNA BE SKEWED BECAUSE IT'S A LOWER CYCLING PERIOD. 
          A LOT OF THIS IS COMING FROM EXTERNAL DATA, UM, IN REAL, REAL MUNICIPALITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 
          UM, SO WE, WE UTILIZE OUTSIDER INFORMATION TO DETERMINE ROUGHLY WHAT, UM, THE CURRENT CYCLE, UM, LOOKS LIKE FOR MOST MUNICIPALITIES. 
          AND 22 CENTS IS THE AVERAGE THAT MOST GOVERNMENT ENTITIES ARE SPENDING AT A 11 AND A HALF YEAR CYCLE PERIOD. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT HAMBURG IS GONNA BE VERY FAR OFF FROM THAT. 
          AND IN TERMS OF CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW WE PURCHASE VEHICLES, WE, IT'S A STANDARD STATE CONTRACT BIDDING PROCESS. 
          HOW DOES IT, DOES THAT CHANGE, UH, IN THE LEASING ARRANGEMENT? SO THROUGH THE SOURCE BILL, UM, RFP AGREEMENT, YOU WON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH SAY OGS, UH, WE'LL BE ORDERING DIRECT FROM THE MANUFACTURER. 
          SO ESSENTIALLY EVERY, UH, PURCHASE THAT YOU MAKE IS GONNA BE THE INVOICE PRICING VEHICLE MINUS WHATEVER GOVERNMENT INCENTIVES ARE FOR THAT YEAR. 
          AND THAT'LL BE CONSISTENT YEAR OVER YEAR. 
          DO THEY COME WITH GPS? UH, SOME OF THEM WILL COME WITH GPS. 
          IT ALL DEPENDS ON HOW WE, UH, HOW WE EQUIP IT AND SPEC IT OUT. 
          UM, BUT OBVIOUSLY GPS IS AN OPTION ON SOME OF THEM. 
          UM, BUT I GUESS TO CLARIFY, GPS ISN'T LIKE TELEMATICS, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? OR ARE YOU TALKING MORE NAVIGATION? UH, BOTH. 
          BOTH. 
          UM, SO WE DO OFFER A TELEMATICS PROGRAM THROUGH GEOTAB. 
          UM, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'VE GOTTEN SUPER INTO THE WEEDS WITH, UH, AT THIS TIME. 
          UH, WE'RE MORE FOCUSING ON BIGGER PICTURE, BUT IT IS AVAILABLE. 
          UM, AND IT'S AGAIN, NOT AN ALL OR NOTHING SCENARIO. 
          IF IT MAKES SENSE TO PUT TELEMATICS ON SOME VEHICLES AND NOT OTHERS, IT IS AVAILABLE TO ALL VEHICLES THROUGH, UH, THROUGH GEO CAP. 
          WHAT WOULD THE IMPACT ON OUR INSURANCE? I DON'T HAVE, UM, THAT NUMBER FOR YOU. 
          UM, WHAT WE FOUND IS, UH, THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME YOUR, YOUR CURRENT RISK IS GONNA BE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS WITH MORE SAFETY FEATURES, UH, TO THE VEHICLE. 
          SO A LOT OF INSURANCE COMPANIES TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT. 
          UM, BUT WHAT YOUR, WHAT YOUR OVERALL SPENDING GONNA BE WOULD HAVE TO BE SUBJECT TO A CONVERSATION WITH YOUR INSURANCE CARRIER AND IN THE OPEN END LEASE BENEFITS, IF SOME OF OUR VEHICLES NEED THIS FULL PACKAGE AND SOME THEY DON'T, DEPENDING ON USAGE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IS THIS THE PACKAGE FOR ALL OF THE CARS OR ARE THEY PACKAGES FOR, SO FOR EXAMPLE, SOME OF OUR VEHICLES WILL HAVE HIGHER MILEAGE USAGE AND, AND I KNOW TYPICALLY COST FOR WHEN YOU HAVE THE UNLIMITED MILES OR WHEN YOU HAVE, UM, SOME OF THE OTHER, UH, FEATURES. 
          SO, BUT THERE'S THIS, THIS IS YOUR STANDARD PACKAGE. 
          SO YEAH, SO THE, THE FLEX, THE, ALL OF THOSE FEATURES THERE ARE JUST PART OF HOW THE OPEN AND LEASE IS STRUCTURED MM-HMM . 
          SO INHERENTLY THERE ARE NO MILEAGE PENALTIES. 
          UM, THERE ARE NO EARLY TERMINATION FEES, THERE'S NO WEAR AND TEAR. 
          IT'S JUST PART OF IT. 
          UH, WHAT WE DO NEED TO BE WEARY OF IS WHEN WE'RE SETTING A TERM FOR A VEHICLE THAT'S GONNA BE BASED OFF OF WHAT WE KNOW THE CURRENT UTILIZATION PATTERN TO BE. 
          UM, IF IT TURNS OUT THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT THAT IS, SAY WE SET IT AT 10,000 MILES FOR 48 MONTHS, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY DRIVING 40 OR 20,000 MILES, WE SHOULD PROBABLY BRING THAT DOWN TO A A, A LOWER CYCLING PERIOD CLOSER TO 24 OR 36 MONTHS BASED OFF OF THAT TERM. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE, UH, YOUR CLIENT STRATEGY MISSION WILL COME IN AND WHERE THAT MAINTENANCE DATA IS REALLY GONNA COME TO CHANGE, BECAUSE WITH THAT DATA PROVIDES UPDATED MILEAGE UTILIZATION AND YOU CAN CATCH THAT BEFORE IT BECOMES A PROBLEM WHERE OUR LEASE TERM WAS INSTRUCTURED PROPERLY, THAT VEHICLE WAS BEING USED HARSHER THAN WE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE, AND NOW WE'RE NOT IN AS GOOD OF AN EQUITY POSITION AS WE THOUGHT. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA WANNA TAKE A LIVE LOOK AT THIS FLEET, UH, YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STILL IN THE RIGHT POSITION TO MAKE SURE THAT TIME P IS IN THE BEST POSITION POSSIBLE, UH, TO REDUCE ITS COSTS. 
          AND YOU TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF THESE FEATURES LIKE DRIVER SAFETY AND UM, UH, THE, UH, LEASE AND TITLE ONE REGISTRATION. 
          THAT WAS, UM, ACCIDENT RISK MANAGEMENT, WHICH I THINK SOME OF THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO THROUGH OUR CURRENT INSURANCE PROVIDER. 
          SO IT'S NOT, SO WOULD WE BE PAYING EXTRA OR THIS IS PART OF THE PACKAGE THAT IS NOT? SO AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, IT'S IT'S CAFETERIA STYLE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, CURRENTLY I'M NOT, NOT MAKING A RECOMMENDATION, NOR HAVE WE, UH, DISCUSS THE TRANSITION FROM THE CURRENT INSURANCE PROGRAM TO AN IN A PROGRAM THROUGH ENTERPRISE. 
          IT'S ALWAYS ON THE TABLE. 
          AND USUALLY WHAT WE RECOMMEND TO OUR CUSTOMERS IS WHENEVER YOU'RE WITH YOUR BROKER AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR CURRENT PLANS TO DO A PRICE COMPARISON AND SHOP AROUND AND ENTERPRISE IN THAT CASE CAN GIVE YOU A QUOTE TO SEE IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SAVINGS. 
          UM, BUT IF YOUR CURRENT PLAN IS WORKING AND 
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IT'S THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE, WE USUALLY  THAT. 
          SO EVERYTHING REGARDING ACCIDENTS, ET CETERA, WOULD STILL GO THROUGH THERE. 
          IT WOULDN'T IMPACT THESE NUMBERS PER SE. 
          IT WOULD NOT. 
          SO I MEAN, YOU, IF YOU REALLY THINK ABOUT IT, UM, WHAT ACCIDENTS ARE GONNA IMPACT THE OVERALL RESALE VALUE OF THE VEHICLE, JUST LIKE IT DOES FOR YOUR CURRENT . 
          SO IF SOMETHING HAS STRUCTURAL DAMAGE AND YOU GO TO RESELL IT, WHETHER YOU'RE SELLING IT OR WE'RE SELLING IT, IT'S GONNA HAVE A SIMILAR IMPACT ON WHAT THE OVERALL VALUE OF THAT VEHICLE IS. 
          SO WE'LL STILL, YOU'LL STILL EXPERIENCE THOSE SAME SITUATIONS. 
          UM, BUT YEAH, FROM A RISK PERSPECTIVE, UH, WE OFFER ACCIDENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAMS, RISK PROGRAMS, WHETHER IT'S, UH, COMPREHENSIVE, UH, I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE NO LONGER DOING LIABILITY, BUT WE CAN OFFER REFERENCES, UM, WE OFFER THOSE, BUT CONTINUE TO UTILIZE YOUR CURRENT PROGRAM, UM, UNLESS YOU DECIDE TO TAKE ANOTHER ROUTE THEN. 
          AND WHAT'S THE COMMITMENT AS FAR AS READ? IS THERE A CONTRACT ON THE YEARS? SHOULD WE COMMIT TO INITIALLY WITH IT'S ON A PER VEHICLE BASIS. 
          SO WHENEVER YOU INITIALLY LEASE, SO LET'S JUST SAY THAT YOU CAN A LEASE THE INITIAL 50 VEHICLES, WHATEVER THE TERMS ON THOSE VEHICLES ARE, THOSE ARE THE TERMS WE HAVE TO PLAY OUT, OR YOU CAN GET OUT OF THEM EARLY, HAVE ENTERPRISE SELL THEM, TAKE THE EQUITY, REPLACE THEM WITH DIFFERENT VEHICLES, OR YOU CAN BUY OUT THOSE VEHICLES FOR WHATEVER THE REDUCED BOOK VALUE IS AT THAT TIME. 
          AND THEN FROM THERE, YOU KNOW, IF THOSE ARE OWNED VEHICLES BY THE TOWN, YOU CAN CARRY ON AS YOU KNOW, THE WAY THAT YOU WERE DOING THINGS BEFORE. 
          SO THERE'S NO CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION TO CONTINUE TO DO BUSINESS WITH ENTERPRISE IF IT'S NOT WORKING, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WANNA BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT THAT. 
          UM, SO WE DON'T HANDCUFF OUR CUSTOMERS, UM, IN ANY WAY. 
          IT'S JUST ON A PER VEHICLE BASIS. 
          ARE THERE ANY LIMITATIONS OR, UH, LACK WORD LIMITATIONS THAT, UM, ARE APPLIED THROUGH BEING IN THIS, UM, RELATIONSHIP WITH ENTERPRISE REGARDING, UM, LIKE WE HAVE A LENS PROGRAM CORRECT. 
          THROUGH, I THINK LEGAL DEPARTMENT RUNS THROUGH THE LENS PROGRAM. 
          SO IN TERMS OF ANY SITUATIONS WITH DRIVERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY, DO YOU IMPOSE ANY DICTATES OR ANY GUIDELINES IN TERMS OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND, UM, ACCIDENT HISTORIES, ET CETERA? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT'S JUST STRICTLY ABOUT THE VEHICLES. 
          IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CORRECT. 
          WHICH, UH, THE PROGRAMS DO YOU HAVE IS HOW LONG HAS THE PROGRAM BEEN AND WHICH IS LONG AS SERVING COMMUNITY, UH, THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO CHECK WITH IN TERMS OF REFERENCES? UM, PERSONALLY, SO I'M, I'M MAINLY ON THE FRONT END OF THE, THE PROCESS, UM, CREATING THE INITIAL PLAN AS THE ACCOUNT EXECUTIVE. 
          SO A CLIENT STRATEGY MANAGER IN THIS CASE IS MORE OF THE ACCOUNT MANAGER ROLE. 
          UM, I WOULD REFER TO, I WOULD TYPICALLY DEFER TO CHRISTINA WHO IS INTENDING TO BE HERE TODAY, BUT HAD SOMETHING COME UP WITH, WITH FAMILY. 
          UM, HER RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COUNTY VIE IS ABOUT FIVE YEARS AT THIS POINT, I BELIEVE WE'VE BEEN PARTNERED WITH THEM. 
          UM, BUT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I DON'T KNOW THE LONGEST STANDING MANY GO BACK TO 2007, UM, WHEN THE ENTERPRISE STATE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM FIRST REALLY GOT UP AND RUNNING WITH MUNICIPALITIES. 
          UM, SO I CAN OFFER SOME REFERENCES, BUT WE'VE ALREADY HAD EXTENSIVE, UH, CONVERSATIONS, PARTICULARLY WITH, UM, COUNTY OF , BOTH WITH DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, UH, POLICE, UM, AND HIGHWAY. 
          UM, AND I BELIEVE WE OFFER, WE ALSO DISCUSSED REFERENCES WITH TOWN OF WEBSTER AS WELL AS A COUPLE OF OTHERS. 
          UM, SO I CAN PROVIDE THOSE IF, IF, IF NEEDED. 
          UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE OVER A HUNDRED DIFFERENT GOVERNMENT PARTNERS IN, IN NEW YORK STATE ALONE, SO I CAN DEFINITELY PROVIDE SOME REFERENCES IF YOU WOULD LIKE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND IF THE CAR'S IN FOR MAINTENANCE, IS THERE REPLACING VEHICLE IN THE, IN THE INTERIM MM-HMM . 
          NO. 
          SO I MEAN, THERE, THERE'S ALWAYS THE OPTION OF HAVING SPARES WITHIN THE FLEET. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S GONNA BE MORE OF A, A GROUND LEVEL OPERATION DECISION FROM THE TOWN, HOW MANY VEHICLES YOU WANNA KEEP VERSUS HOW MANY YOU ACTUALLY NEED AND WHICH ONES YOU WANNA BE ASSIGNED TO. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT INTERIM PERIOD OF, OF A VEHICLE BEING DOWN AND, UH, RECEIVING MAINTENANCE AND HOW ARE WE GONNA GET AROUND CURRENTLY THE COUNTY, IT'S MORE OF A LOGISTICAL THING. 
          THE COUNTY HAS LIKE, AND I THINK THEY'RE ALSO THE ENTERPRISE ONES HAS LIKE POOL CARS, SO IT COULD BE LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE SMART CARS OR SOME OF THE, THOSE SORT OF CARS THAT PEOPLE USE WHEN THEIR VEHICLE IS BEING REPAIRED. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND I WOULD ASSUME THAT YOUR, YOUR MAINTENANCE, UM, DEPARTMENT AND YOUR TIME, YOUR TURNAROUND'S PROBABLY STELLAR, UM, IF YOU WERE TO OUTSOURCE, UM, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, I, I DON'T KNOW IF STELLAR IS THE WORD, BUT IT'S, IT'S VERY, IT'S VERY GOOD. 
          UM, BUT ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'D BE LOOKING AT HERE IS, UH, A SMALL PORTION OF, OF THE FLEET WOULD BE OUTSOURCED. 
          UM, THE MAJORITY WOULD STAY IN-HOUSE. 
          REALLY WHAT WE'RE GAINING FROM THAT IS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE CONTINUING TO UTILIZE THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT YOU'VE ALREADY MADE A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT INTO, UM, THAT GOING FORWARD IS GOING TO PRESENT THE MOST 
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COST EFFECTIVE OPTION. 
          UM, BUT WHAT'S GONNA COME INTO PLAY THERE THROUGH THE MAINTENANCE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM AND IMPLEMENTING IT INTO THE IN-HOUSE PROGRAM IS THE DATA TRACKING THAT COMES ALONG WITH THAT. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, I SAID IT EARLIER, IT'S, IT'S REALLY HARD TO, SO THERE, IF YOU'RE NOT TRACKING IT IN THE FIRST PLACE, UM, IT'S REALLY GONNA GIVE US THE ABILITY TO START COLLECTING DATA ON YOUR FLEET. 
          SO THAT WAY WE CAN THEN START. 
          IT'S ONE OF THE, THE STORIES THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER GEAR SHARED WITH US, UH, THAT I THOUGHT WAS INTERESTING FROM THEIR DEPARTMENT OF WEIGHTS AND MEASURES. 
          UM, THEY'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR, FOR FOUR YEARS AND THEIR DEPARTMENT OF WEIGHTS AND MEASURES, UH, HAS BEEN CONTACTED TWICE BY ENTERPRISE TO TURN IN THOSE VEHICLES, WHICH WERE ORIGINALLY A 48 MONTH LEASE BECAUSE OF ALL THE DATA THAT THEY HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT, OKAY, WE CAN GET YOU OUT OF THESE VEHICLES AND GET YOU INTO NEWER VEHICLES AT A LOWER COST. 
          SO IT COSTS 'EM LESS TO DRIVE NEW VEHICLES BECAUSE, I MEAN, AND THAT IT IS A MARKET DYNAMICS THAT'S NOT GONNA LAST FOREVER, BUT ENTERPRISE WAS ABLE TO SAY, THERE'S REAL OPPORTUNITY HERE, WHEREAS THE TO HAMBURG IS NOT GOING TO HAVE ACCESS TO, TO THAT DATA. 
          WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS AS QUICKLY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND KIND OF GOING BACK TO, TO WHAT I SAID ABOUT THIS NOT BEING A SET STONE PLAN, IT'S A LIVING, BREATHING PLAN. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, AND THE OPEN END EFFORT AT LEAST ALLOWS US TO BE FLEXIBLE IN THAT NATURE AND CAPITALIZE ON THOSE OPPORTUNITIES THAT EXIST TO HELP FURTHER REDUCE YOUR COSTS. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE YOUR CLIENT STRATEGY MANAGER COMES IN, IS IT'S A BIT OF A FINANCIAL ADVISOR FOR YOUR FLEET. 
          BRING THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO THE TABLE AND SAY, HEY, BASED OFF WHAT WE'RE SEEING, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY HERE. 
          UM, SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE MAJOR THINGS WE BRING TO TABLE IS THAT ADVISORY PIECE. 
          ALRIGHT, PERFECT. 
          TYLER, THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. 
          OF COURSE. 
          THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR HAVING ME. 
          NEXT ON THE AGENDA WE HAVE MR. RILEY, YOU, ME BACK HERE, . 
          SORRY MARK. 
          UM, I'M JUST HANDING OUT A COPY YOU ALL RECEIVED EMAIL WISE, MY REPORT OR SEVERAL REPORTS IN THERE. 
          WHAT YOU NEED HARD COPIES. 
          RIGHT. 
          PERFECT. 
          THANKS . 
          PUT IT ON THE FILE. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, SO THOSE ARE THOSE HARD COPIES OF WHAT WAS EMAILED OUT, UM, RECENTLY. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I HAVE, WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT IN A MIXED USE DISTRICT. 
          I HAVE A HANDOUT FOR THAT. 
          I HAVE A COPY OF THE MIXED USE DISTRICT AND THE SMALL AMENDMENT TO THE PD DESIGNATION. 
          I DID MAKE SOME MINOR CHANGES TO THE MIXED USE DISTRICT. 
          IT'LL BE IN THE HANDOUT. 
          I'LL GET A COPY TO YOU ALSO. 
          UM, AS WE'RE GETTING COMMENTS, WE MAKE MINOR CHANGES TO THE LAW. 
          FIX THOSE THINGS. 
          ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS ASKED ON THE MIXED MISUSE DISTRICT WAS, IT'S A FLOATING ZONE WHERE AN APPLICANT COME IN AND PRESENT A PLAN AND GO THROUGH THE REZONING PROCESS TO GET THAT, GET THAT CHANGED. 
          THE LAW ALSO SAYS THAT THE TOWN BOARD CAN ALSO REZONE PROPERTY TOUSE. 
          IF SOMEBODY WAS ASKED, WELL THEN THERE'S NO PLAN IN PLACE. 
          HOW, HOW DO YOU HAVE THAT? AND I SAID, WELL, I'VE ADDED A STEP IN THERE THAT IF IT GOES THAT ROUTE, THEN THE APPLICANT COMES FORWARD, HAS TO PRESENT A PLAN TO THE TOWN BOARD FOR THE TOWN BOARD TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE BEFORE SENDING TO PLANNING BOARD FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL. 
          SO THAT WAS A VERY GOOD QUESTION RAISED ON THE DRAFT WALL THAT WE HAD. 
          UM, ALSO IN YOUR REPORT AND I WILL BE HANDING OUT SHORTLY TRIAL, UM, I HAVE THE INFORMATION ON THE, UH, ASSIGNMENTS THAT I'VE BEEN GIVING AND I'M LOOKING AT CHANGES TO THE CODE AND CHANGES TO ZONING IN THE TOWN. 
          THIS YOU DO NOT HAVE A HARD COPY, DO NOT HAVE ELECTRONIC COPY OF YET, BUT THIS IS MY REPORT ON AND WE WERE GONNA MAYBE TAKE ACTION BUT MAYBE AT THE FOLLOWING MEETING ON SOME HIGH PRIORITY REZONINGS IN THE TOWN, UH, INDUSTRIAL IN THE TOWN, IDENTIFYING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR NEEDING OF CHANGES. 
          I'M NOT EXPECTING ANY ACTION TONIGHT, BUT PLEASE REVIEW THOSE AND WE CAN DISCUSS THEM OR YOU WANNA START A PROJECT. 
          BUT THERE ARE FIVE MAJOR AREAS OF THE TOWN THAT WE BELIEVE CALLED OUT FOR COMP PLAN THAT NEED AMENDMENTS ON THEM. 
          ZONING, UH, ZONING REVISIONS ON SITE AND WE'LL SEE WHAT'S IN THERE. 
          AND, UH, THIS IS, THESE ARE THE HANDOUTS FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING. 
          I'LL GIVE, HAVE A COPY OF EACH ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS. 
          UM, THAT'S MY QUICK REPORT. 
          WE HAVE A BIG PUBLIC MEETING, A BIG PUBLIC MEETING COMING UP WEDNESDAY NIGHT ON THE COMP PLAN. 
          UH, WE'VE DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB ADVERTISING, UH, SENDING OUT EMAILS. 
          800 EMAILS WENT OUT. 
          UH, BETH 
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DID AN ARTICLE IN THE BUFFALO NEWS. 
          WE DO HAVE AN ADVERTISEMENT IN THE, IN THE, IN THE SUN. 
          UM, AND WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF CALLS AND I'M GETTING A LOT OF CALLS. 
          IT SHOULD BE AN INTERESTING MEETING. 
          I HOPE WE DON'T HAVE AN OVERFLOW CROWD IN THE, IN THE COURTROOM UPSTAIRS. 
          WE COULD NOT USE THIS ROOM BECAUSE THE PLANNING BOARD IS MEETING. 
          UH, BUT HOPEFULLY IT'LL BE A GOOD MEETING AND PEOPLE BE ABLE TO CONT UH, UH, PROVIDE THEIR INPUT. 
          IT'S GONNA BE MOSTLY FOCUSED ON THE, UM, AGRICULTURAL CHANGES TO THE PLAN, WHICH WERE YOU GOT THROUGH A COUNTY, A COUNTY GRANT. 
          UH, BUT WE WILL TAKE COMMENTS ON EVERYTHING AND I HEAR THERE'S SPECIFIC PEOPLE COMING TO COMMENT ON CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE TOWN. 
          SO, UH, WE'LL RECEIVE THOSE SPECIFIC COMMENTS AND WE'LL HAVE A QUESTIONNAIRE AND ANOTHER DEVICE THAT THEY CAN GET OTHER COMMENTS TO THE, THE TOWN THAT NEXT NIGHT WE WILL BE MEETING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMMITTEE TO DISCUSS THE LAST INPUT WE RECEIVED. 
          AND THEN SHORTLY THEREAFTER, I BELIEVE WE HAVE A, A DATE SCHEDULED THAT WE'LL HAVE A JOINT MEETING WITH THE TOWN TOWN BOARD COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMMITTEE AND ASK TO TALK ABOUT MOVING FORWARD WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE CONFERENCE PLAN. 
          I THINK THAT'S NEXT MONDAY, RIGHT? WHAT'S THAT? NEXT MONDAY DURING THE WORK SESSION? PROBABLY, I THINK. 
          I DON'T HAVE THAT THAT MEMO WITH ME TONIGHT, BUT WE'RE GONNA ALSO THEN DO THAT. 
          UM, WE HOPE TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE COMP PLAN. 
          UH, I'M MISSING ONE PIECE OF DATA. 
          UH, GENERAL APPRECIATE THIS. 
          I'M TRYING TO GET INFORMA MORE INFORMATION ON, ON AGRICULTURAL USES AND, AND PROPERTIES WITHIN TOWN. 
          I'M TRYING TO GET THAT DATA THROUGH USDA, BUT THEY HAVE SOME INTERESTING CRITERIA FOR GETTING DATA FROM THEM. 
          SO WE'RE STILL TRYING TO GET THAT DATA, UH, BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO GET AS MUCH DATA AS WE CAN ABOUT, 'CAUSE KIND OF HAMBURGER IS NOT A, WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A PURE AGRICULTURAL CER FACTOR KIND OF LEFT OUT OF THE ERIE COUNTY PLAN. 
          UH, BUT WE HAVE MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF AGRICULTURE USE AS WE IDENTIFIED THE FACT THAT WE WANT TO BE PART OF THAT AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITY IN THE FUTURE. 
          AND HOW DO WE DO THAT IN A CREATIVE WAY? YOU ARE HOME TO THE, TO THE AGRICULTURAL, UH, SOCIETY HERE IN THE TOWN AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT BECOMES PART OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          IT'S PART OF ALSO THE CHARACTER OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          I THINK IT GOES TO THE OPEN SPACE PROTECTION, ALTHOUGH FARMERS DON'T LIKE TO BE CALLED OPEN SPACE, THEY ARE ACTIVE AGRICULTURAL LANDS AND AGRICULTURAL TYPE USAGE. 
          SO WE HOPE TO GET SOME MORE INPUT ON THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF, OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          SO THAT'S KIND OF MY QUICK REPORT. 
          I KNOW I COULD TRY TO MAKE IT QUICK BECAUSE I KNOW YOU ARE VERY BUSY BETWEEN THE BUDGET AND ALL THE OTHER PROJECTS GOING ON IN TOWN. 
          UM, I ASSUME YOU'LL REPORT ON, I SEE THERE'S A, A RESOLUTION IN THE PLACE MEETING ABOUT THE UH, ABOUT THE BILL STADIUM AND THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR THAT. 
          I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATION AND I BELIEVE THERE'S BEEN ANNOUNCEMENTS AND I THINK THE TOWN CLERK PROBABLY RECEIVED A LETTER. 
          A LOT OF PEOPLE RECEIVED A LETTER THAT THE INFORMATION, THE ENVIRONMENTAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROJECT IS NOW AVAILABLE AS OF, I THINK IT WAS AS OF FRIDAY OF LAST WEEK I BELIEVE IT STARTED. 
          AND WE SHOULD HAVE THAT OUT THAT THE GENERAL PUBLIC CAN GO ON AND LOOK AT THINGS LIKE TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          A LOT OF DIFFERENT STUDIES THE COUNTY AND THE STATE HAVE DONE WELL, COUNTIES LEADING THAT EFFORT ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL UH, REVIEW. 
          SO THERE'LL BE A LOT OF INFORMATION FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THAT AREA AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE REGION ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPLICATIONS OF THIS PROJECT. 
          I THINK THE BOTTOM LINE I THINK WE HEARD WAS THEY BELIEVE THE IMPACTS WILL BE IMPROVED FROM WHAT, IN THEIR WORDS FROM THE EXISTING STADIUM. 
          THEY BELIEVE THEY CAN DO SO MANY THINGS THAT'LL BE LESS OF AN IMPACT TO THE AREA WHEN THE NEW STADIUM IS BUILT. 
          AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL READ THAT AND, AND CONCUR WITH THAT. 
          MY ADVICE TO DOWN, YOU'RE PROBABLY DOING THAT ALREADY IS THAT IT IS A VOLUMINOUS DOCUMENT. 
          WE PROBABLY WANT TO MAKE ASSIGNMENTS. 
          I THINK UH UH, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT WITH COUNCIL COUNCILWOMAN ERFORD THAT BASICALLY YOU MAY WANT TO MAKE ASSIGNMENTS TO DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS IN THE TOWN OR DIFFERENT PEOPLE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE THINGS, YOU KNOW, HAVE YOUR POLICE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES, LOOK AT THAT INFORMATION THAT'S IN THERE ABOUT THOSE THINGS. 
          HAVE YOUR ENGINEER AND DEPARTMENT LOOK AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES AND CONCERNS ABOUT WATER AND SEWER AND DRAINAGE IN THE AREA. 
          THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUFF COULD GO TO THE CONSERVATION BOARD TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE SECTIONS. 
          'CAUSE IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION YOU MAY WANT TO GIVE THAT OUT TO PEOPLE TO LOOK, BUT I THINK THE PUBLIC MEETING IS COMING UP IN DECEMBER. 
          WE'D LIKE TO PROBABLY HAVE OUR REVIEWS DONE THEN AND GET OUR COMMENTS 'CAUSE THEY SAID THEY WILL ANSWER ALL COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS RECEIVED ON WHAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED. 
          SO I THINK YOU WANNA GENERATE THOSE COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS TO GET, GET, GET YOUR ANSWERS FOR YOUR CITIZENS AND AND THE REGION. 
          I THINK. 
          I THINK THAT'S IT. 
          WOW. 
           DID I SET A RECORD? YOU DID. 
          DREW, UNLESS ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I'M STICKING AROUND THE REGULAR MEETING BECAUSE WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THOSE TWO CHANGES. 
          AND ALSO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I KNOW YOU'RE ADOPTING UH, THE REZONING FROM FOR MR. MATTHEWS, I BELIEVE THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT AND ANSWER THOSE AND THEN YOU'LL JUST CHECK WITH THE UM, WHETHER THAT IS 10 24 OR 11 SEVEN, I DON'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD FOR THAT JOINT MEETING. 
          YOU KNOW THAT UH, BETWEEN THE COMMITTEE I WILL AND THE BOARD DURING 
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WORK SESSION JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR THAT WE'LL DOUBLE CHECK TO THE SUPERVISOR AND MICHELLE AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS ON THE SCHEDULE I GAVE OUT BEFORE ASKED TO GO ARTICUL. 
          AND IF EVERYTHING GOES WELL AT THAT MEETING, WE WOULD LIKE TO START HAVING THE OFFICIAL PUBLIC HEARINGS, DOING COUNTY REFERRAL, DOING THE REFERRAL TO ALL THE AGENCIES, ET CETERA TO GET ALL THOSE COMMENTS AND FINALIZE THE ADOPTION COMPLAINT, WHICH I WAS HOPING IN FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY IF EVERYTHING GOES SMOOTHLY, JIG MYSELF, . 
          SO THEN THE COMMITTEE WOULD JUST NEED AN EMAIL PROBABLY TOMORROW BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT DAVE WAS GIVEN TO THEM. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANKS DREW. 
          ALRIGHT, WE HAVE UH, 15 MINUTES BEFORE THE SEVEN O'CLOCK MEETING. 
          UM, PROBABLY NOT REALLY WORTH IT TO ADJOURN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS A COUPLE OF MATTERS. 
          UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT WHILE WE CAN TAKE A 15 MINUTE BREAK? BREAK? SOUNDS GOOD. 
          YEAH. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          LET'S TAKE A 15 MINUTE BREAK. 
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START 
          [02:39:26]
WITH 
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THE ROLL CALL HOPE PRESENT COUNCILWOMAN HOPE. 
          COUNCILMAN CONLEY HERE. 
          COUNCILMAN  HERE. 
          COUNCILWOMAN FERRELL LOREN HERE ALL LET'S UH, STAND FOR THE P 
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RESOLVE THE TOWN BOARD. 
          APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION OF CHIEF OF POLICE IN PROMOTING CHRISTOPHER GUT TO POSITION OF DETECTIVE EFFECTIVE TUESDAY, OCTOBER 18TH, 2022. 
          OFFICER CHRISTOPHER GUT IS CURRENTLY ON THE DETECTIVE CIVIL SERVICE LIST. 
          EXAM NUMBER 71 DASH 20 FIVES IS 47 57 PER HOUR AND FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT B 3 1 2 0 0. 
          SO MOVED. 
          SECOND. 
          MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER HO SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER DARRELL LOREN. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? CARRIED. 
          RESOLVED THE TO BOARD APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION THE CHIEF OF POLICE AND PROMOTING BRETT MCCABE, THE VACANT POSITION IN NARCOTICS EFFECTIVE TUESDAY, OCTOBER 18TH, 2022. 
          SALARY IS 47 57 PER HOUR AND FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT B 3 1 2 0 0.10. 
          SO SECOND. 
          MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER HULK. 
          SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER C*****G. 
          ALL IN FAVOR OF A AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? CARRIED. 
          AND I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, ASK CHIEF DINO AS WELL AS, UH, OFFICERS AT TER AND KATE TO JOIN US IN FRONT OF THE THANKS. 
          CONGRATULATIONS. 
          CONGRATULATIONS. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          CONGRATULATIONS. 
          APPARENTLY 1, 2, 3. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I'LL NOW ASK CHIEF ESK TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR PROMOTIONS. 
          SO JUST A FEW WORDS. 
          UH, BRETT MCCADE, HE'S BEEN WITH US FOR EIGHT YEARS. 
          UH, DOES AN OUTSTANDING JOB FOR US. 
          WHATEVER WE ASK OF HIM, HE DOES. 
          HE'S ALSO TAKEN ON ADDITIONAL DUTIES. 
          UH, VOLUNTEERED TO TAKE OVER A FEW OF OUR CHARITY EVENTS AS WELL. 
          HE COMES WITH, UH, PRIOR EXPERIENCE IN NARCOTICS WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT HE WAS WITH IN VIRGINIA. 
          SO I CONFIDENT THAT HE'S GOING TO FIT RIGHT IN AND HAVE AN IMMEDIATE IMPACT ON THE UNIT. 
          CHRIS BUTRA HAS BEEN WITH US FOR 13 YEARS, UH, VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THE JOB EVER SINCE COMING OVER FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, I KNOW HE IS ALWAYS WANTED TO BE A DETECTIVE. 
          FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW, HIS DAD WAS A DETECTIVE WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING WITH HIM AND I KNOW CHRIS, THAT HE IS SMILING DOWN AND HE IS VERY PROUD OF YOU. 
          UM, CHRIS IS GONNA DO AN OUTSTANDING JOB FOR US IN THE BUREAU AS WELL. 
          AND SO I'M ONCE AGAIN PRIVILEGED TO BE WORKING WITH TWO OUTSTANDING MEMBERS OF THE DEPARTMENT. 
          NARCOTICS OFFICER BRETT MCKAY AND DETECTIVE CHRIS RESOLVED THE HIRING OF ROSE N AS ENTAIL MATRON FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON AN AS NEEDED BASIS. 
          UM, WITH THE, UM, ATTACHMENTS. 
          SO MOVED. 
          MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER HOKE. 
          SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER M FAVOR. 
          ALL IN FAVORS. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? CARRIED. 
          ALRIGHT, NEXT UP IS, UM, A PUBLIC HEARING. 
          PLEASE, NICK, PLEASE TAKE NOTICE THAT THERE HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO THE TOWN BOARD ON SEPTEMBER 12TH, 2022 PURSUANT, PURSUANT TO THE MUNICIPAL HOME RULE LAW, PRO LOCAL LAW. 
          CORRECT TO BE KNOWN AS PRO LOCAL LAW NUMBER 9 20 22. 
          INSTEAD, LOCAL LAW PROVIDES FOR AMENDMENTS TO THE HAMBURG TOWN CODE AND THE FOLLOWING CHAPTERS AND SECTIONS, THE AMENDMENTS CAN BE DESCRIBED AS FOLLOWS. 
          THE FOLLOWING CODE REVISIONS HAVE BEEN RECOMMENDED BY THE HAMBURG PLANNING DEPARTMENT FOR ADOPTION BY THE TOWN OF HAMBURG. 
          ONE AMEND CHAPTER TWO 80 ZONING BY ADDING A NEW ARTICLE ENTITLED MIXED USE DISTRICT ONE. 
          NUMBER TWO, AMEND CHAPTER TWO 80 ZONING BY ADDING A NEW SECTION TWO 80 DASH ONE 50.2 MULTI-PHASE PUD PROPOSED PROPOSALS TO ARTICLE 22. 
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A DETAILED COPY OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC VIEW DURING REGULAR BUSINESS HOURS AND THE TOWN CLERK'S OFFICE AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND ALSO ON OUR WEBSITE UNDER LEGAL NOTICE OF THE BIDS. 
          THEREFORE PURSUANT TO THE STATUTES AND PROVISIONS, THE MUNICIPAL HOME RULE LAW, THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF DENVER WILL HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING ON OCTOBER 17TH, 2022 AT SEVEN O'CLOCK AT WHICH TIME ALL INTERESTED PERSONS MAY BE HEARD. 
          AND I HAVE NO CORRESPONDENCE SENTENCE. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          SO AT THIS TIME WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD OR AGAIN ALL GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE. 
          WE'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          BY COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, FARRELL LAWRENCE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AND OPPOSED CARRIE RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN, THE HAMMER TOWN BOARD DOES HEREBY APPROVE THE MINUTES THE PREVIOUS MEETING AS FOLLOWS, REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING SEPTEMBER 26TH, 2022 AND SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING. 
          OCTOBER 12TH, 2022. 
          SO MOTION MAY COME COMING THROUGH. 
          I'LL SECOND THAT. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          UPHOLD CARRIE, WHERE'S THE TOWN OF HAMBURG? RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM RICHARD MATTHEWS RE ZONE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 34 49 BIG THREE ROAD FROM C TWO GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO NC NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL GENERAL RESIDENCE DISTRICT IN ORDER TO ALLOW THE EXISTING HOMES ON THE PROPERTY TO BECOME CONFORMING. 
          AND WHEREAS  BOARD IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT HAS DETERMINED THAT THE PROPOSED REZONING WILL NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE ETHICAL RESOURCES OF THE STATE AND OR THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE FOR THE PUBLIC AND IS CONSISTENT WITH SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC CONSIDERATIONS. 
          NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED AT THE TOWN OF HAMBURG TOWN BOARD HEREBY DETERMINES THAT THE PROPOSED ZONE IS NOT ANTICIPATE TO RESULT IN ANY SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AND THAT A NEGATIVE DECLARATION IS HEREBY ISSUE AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT SUPERVISOR BE AUTHORIZED TO SIGN THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM. 
          SO SECOND. 
          SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CONLEY. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          A AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? CARRIE, WHERE IS TOM HANDLING RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM RICHARD MANKINS, ARIZONA PROPERTY LOCATED 34 49 BIG STREET ROAD FROM C TWO GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, NC NEIGHBORHOOD, COMMERCIAL GENERAL RESIDENCE DISTRICT NOT TO ALLOW THE EXISTING HOMES AND PROPERTY TO BECOME CONFORMING AND WHEREAS THE BR PLANNING BOARD REVIEWED THE REZONING REQUEST AND RE RECOMMENDED ON AUGUST 17TH, 2022 THAT THIS REZONING REQUEST BE APPROVED AND WHEREAS REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARING WAS HELD ON SEPTEMBER 26TH, 2022. 
          AND WHEREAS THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD IS DETERMINED, THE PROPOSED REZONING WILL NOT RESULT IN ANY SIGNIFICANT NEGATIVE EFFECT ON THE ENVIRONMENT. 
          IT IS ISSUED A NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND THE REZONING IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TOWN'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THE TOWN OF HAMBURG TOWN BOARD HEREBY REONE PROPERTY IDENTIFIED BELOW FROM C TWO TO NC BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE ZONING HELD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, THE AMENDED AS FOLLOWS TO AMEND LOCAL LAW NUMBER 10 OF THE YEAR, 1986 OF THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, CHAPTER TWO 80 ENTITLED ZONING TO PROVIDE FOR A CHANGE IN THE BOUNDARY OF THE ZONING MAP WHEREBY THE ZONING EXCHANGE FROM C TWO TO NC FOR THE PROPERTY IDENTIFIED BY SBL 1 59 19 DASH ONE DASH ONE ONE. 
          SO MOVE SECOND. 
          SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CUMAN. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? CARRIE, IT RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVES THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE DIRECTOR OF RECREATION IN HIRING HILLARY PUNT TO THE VACANT POSITION OF RECREATION SUPERVISOR PROVISIONAL COMPETITIVE EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 24TH, 2022. 
          THIS APPOINTMENT IS SUBJECT TO COMPLETION OF ALL THE PRECONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT. 
          SALARY IS $27 AND 42 CENTS PER HOUR. 
          FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN A 7 0 2 0 100. 
          MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER CONLEY. 
          I SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          A A OPPOSED? CARRIE AND MS. BUN IS WITH US HERE TODAY. 
          WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP FOR FOR A PICTURE? GO. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          I NEED SOME BALANCE. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          THREE. 
          SO, UH, DIRECTOR OF GOMAN KING HAS BEEN, UH, REORGANIZING OUR DEPARTMENT OF YOUTH RECREATION SENIOR SERVICES. 
          THIS IS FROM MORE RECENT HIRE. 
          AND TELL US ABOUT HILARY. 
          UM, WELL HILLARY, I'VE ACTUALLY WORKED WITH HILLARY SINCE SHE WAS PROBABLY ABOUT 16, 17 
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YEARS OLD. 
          UM, I'VE WORKED WITH HER IN THE  AND I CAN SAY SHE HONESTLY GAVE 110% IN EVERYTHING THAT SHE DOES. 
          UM, SHE THEN WENT ON TO BECOME AN ACTIVITIES DIRECTOR AT A SENIOR LIVING COMMUNITY, UH, SO MUCH AND THEY LOVED HER SO MUCH THAT I BELIEVE THEY ALMOST CAUSED A RIOT WHEN SHE HANDED IN HER RESIGNATION. 
          UM, BUT WITH THE DEPARTMENT, WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO FOCUS ON BEING, UH, MORE IN THE COMMUNITY AND OFFERING MORE SERVICES AND I KNOW HILLARY WILL ABSOLUTELY HELP ME DO THAT. 
          SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH ON BOARD FOR UH, PUTTING HER ON AND WE CAN'T WAIT FOR HER TO START. 
          YOU RESOLVE IT. 
          BOARD APPROVES THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE DIRECTOR OF RECREATION IN APPOINTING MARK COLLINS TO THE VACANT POSITION OF RECREATION SUPERVISOR SENIOR CITIZENS PERMANENT SLASH COMPETITIVE EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 18TH, 2022. 
          THIS APPOINTMENT IS SUBJECT TO COMPLETION OF ALL THE PRECONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT. 
          THE CANDIDATE IS ON THE RECREATION SUPERVISOR, SENIOR CITIZEN CIVIL SERVICE EXAM LIST NUMBER 66 DASH 9 0 5. 
          SALARY IS $27 AND 42 CENTS PER HOUR. 
          FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN A 6 7 7 2 100. 
          MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER KINDLY. 
          SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          BY COUNCIL MEMBER LL LORENZ. 
          ALL IN FAVOR AND SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED. 
          CARRIED. 
          BE RESOLVED. 
          THIS TOWN BOARD APPROVE THE TERMINATION AND HIRING OF PERSONNEL FOR THE YOUTH RECREATION AND SENIOR SERVICES DEPARTMENT AS PER THE ATTACHED PD SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER CONLEY. 
          SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HULK. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? SO AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? CARRIED. 
          BE RESOLVED TOWN BOARD DESIGNATE MONDAY, OCTOBER 31ST AS THE OFFICIAL TRICK OR THREE NIGHT IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG FROM 5:00 PM TO 8:00 PM SO MOVED. 
          SECOND. 
          MOTION BY SUPERVISOR HO. 
          SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER FARRELL LOREN. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY A. 
          A AYE. 
          OPPOSED? CARRIED. 
          PETER ALL THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZED CAPTAIN NICHOLAS  TO SIGN PURCHASE, PURCHASE ORDERS, TOWN VOUCHER'S. 
          REQUEST FOR SUPPLEMENTAL OR BUDGET TRANSFERS AND PAYROLL INPUT SHEETS FOR THE HAMMER POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE ABSENCE OF CHIEF PETER DYNO. 
          SO MOVED. 
          MOTION COUNCIL SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER COUNTY. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? CARRIED. 
          WE ALL THE TOWN BOARD APPROVED DETERMINATION HIRING OF THE FOLLOWING EMPLOYEES IN THE BUILDINGS AND GROUND DEPARTMENT AS LISTED. 
          SO MOVED. 
          SECOND. 
          MOTION BY SUPERVISOR HO. 
          SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER FIRST. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED. 
          CARRIED. 
          WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD IS TO BE COMPRISED OF 10 MEMBERS, NOT INCLUDING THE TOWN BOARD LIAISON AND CURRENTLY THE TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD HAS NINE MEMBERS. 
          AND WHEREAS AT THE MOST RECENT TSAB MEETING, THE MEMBERS VOTED TO RECOMMEND APPOINTING JOHN MCKENDRY, A TOWN RESIDENT AND FORMER TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER TO THE TSAB. 
          NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED WITH THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD, APPOINT JOHN MCHENRY TO THE TOWNS TSAB EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY AND ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2022. 
          THERE ARE NO FISCAL IMPLICATIONS. 
          SO MOVED. 
          MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER OR MEMBER FARRELL WILL SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HU CALL IN FAVOR AND SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED. 
          CARRIED. 
          WHEREAS JOHN MICHAEL WAY IS A WINDING RESIDENTIAL STREET OFF OF PARKER ROAD IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, WHICH INCLUDES MULTIPLE DEAD END TRAILS AND 90 DEGREE TURNS. 
          AND WHEREAS IN RESPONSE TO RESIDENT CONCERNS FOR PEDESTRIAN BICYCLISTS AND DRIVER SAFETY DUE TO MOTORIST SPEEDING THROUGH THE COMMUNITY, SEVERAL MEASURES WERE DISCUSSED BY THE TOWN OF HAMBURG TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD AND THE HAMBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT'S SPEED WAGON WAS INSTALLED FOR A PERIOD OF TIME ON JOHN MICHAEL WAY TO RAISE AWARENESS AND DETER SPEEDING BY POSTING DRIVER SPEEDS. 
          AND WHEREAS THE HAMBURG TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD VOTED TO RECOMMEND THE INSTALLATION OF TWO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR SLOW DOWN SIGNS AND TWO ADDITIONAL 30 MILE PER HOUR SIGNS IN THE JOHN MICHAEL WAY COMMUNITY. 
          NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES THE INSTALLATION OF THE AFOREMENTIONED SIGNS ON JOHN MICHAEL WAY AS RECOMMENDED AND REQUEST THE HAMBURG TRAFFIC SAFETY COORDINATOR PROCESS THE REQUIRED WORK ORDER FOR THIS PROJECT TO BE COMPLETED. 
          FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT DB 0.50205 SIGNS AND SIGNALS. 
          SO MOVED. 
          MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER FARRELL LORENZ SECOND. 
          SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER COUNTY. 
          ALL IN FAVOR IS THE AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED CARRIE? THIS A LONG ONE VOTES WHEREAS GENERAL MUNICIPAL LAW SECTION 2 0 9 B AND 1 22 DM IS OTHERWISE PROVIDED BY LAW, PROVIDES THAT THE AUTHORITIES HAVE CONTROL OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OR FIRE COMPANY THAT HAVE AUTHORIZED SUCH FIRE DEPARTMENT OR FIRE COMPANY PROVIDE EMERGENCY AND GENERAL AMBULANCE SERVICE. 
          INCLUDE EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES DEFINED IN SECTION 3000. 
          ONE OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH LAW MAY PICK THE SCHEDULE OF FEES OR CHARGE TO BE PAID BY PERSONS REQUESTING SUCH SERVICE OR 
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SERVICES. 
          AND WHERE IS LAW FURTHER AUTHORIZES THE AUTHORITIES HAVING CONTROL OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OR FIRE COMPANY MAY PROVIDE FOR THE COLLECTION OF FEES AND CHARGES FOR THE COLLECTION THEREOF BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OR FIRE COMPANY. 
          AND WHERE IS THE LAW PROVIDES THAT IF THE AUTHORITIES HAVING CONTROL OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OR FIRE COMPANY HAVE AUTHORIZED SUCH FIRE DEPARTMENT OR FIRE COMPANY THAT SCHEDULE OF TWO OR CHARGES TO BE PAID BY PERSONS REQUESTING SUB SERVICE OR SERVICES AND SEEK PARTICIPATION IN REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE MEDICAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, THE AUTHORITIES HAVING CONTROL OF A FIRE DEPARTMENT OR FIRE COMPANY SHALL ADHERE TO ANY MEDICAL ASSISTANCE ENROLLMENT AND BILLING REQUIREMENTS APPLICABLE TO SUCH SERVICES PRIOR TO RECEIVING REIMBURSEMENT. 
          AND WHEREAS THE LAW FURTHER PROVIDES THAT WHERE A BASIC LIFE SUPPORT SERVICE WHICH ESTABLISHES THE SCHEDULE OF FEES FOR SERVICE SHALL ENTER INTO CONTRACT WITH THE PROVIDER OR PROVIDERS OF ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT SERVICE TO PROVIDE SUCH ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT SERVICES AND THAT SUCH CONTRACT SHALL AT A MINIMUM ESTABLISHMENT THE FEES FOR ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT SERVICES AND THE MEANS BY WHICH SUB PROVIDER WILL BE IN REIMBURSED WHEN THE AMBULANCE SERVICE BILLS FOR EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICE. 
          AND WHERE IS THE LAW FOR THE PROVIDES THAT WE'RE AN EMERGENCY IN A GENERAL AMBULANCE SERVICE INCLUDING EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES DEFINED IN SECTION 3001 OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH LAW AUTHORIZED PURSUANT TO GENERAL MUNICIPAL LAW SECTION 2 0 9 DASH B SUBSECTION FOUR, WHICH DOES NOT ISSUE A BILL FOR SERVICE AND WHICH REQUESTS AN ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT INTERCEPT FROM ANOTHER AMBULANCE SERVICE FURNISHED IN SERVICE IN AN AREA THAT IS DESIGNATED AS A RURAL AREA BY ANY LAW REGULATION OF STATE OR THAT IS LOCATED IN A RURAL CENSUS TRACT OF A METROPOLITAN STATISTICAL AREA AS DETERMINED UNDER THE MOST RECENT GOLDSMITH MODIFICATION SHALL PAY THE AMBULANCE SERVICE PROVIDING THE A L LOSS INTERCEPT AND A LS WORLD INTERCEPT FEE OF RACE NEGOTIATE BETWEEN THE PROVIDERS OF SERVICES AND WHERES LAW PROVIDES FURTHER PROVIDES THAT IN ABSENCE OF ANY AGREED UPON RATES, SERVICE RECEIVING SUCH A LS INTERCEPT SHALL PAY THE SERVICE PROVIDED THE A LS INTERCEPT FOR SUCH SERVICES AT THE USUAL AND CUSTOMARY CHARGE, WHICH SHALL NOT BE EXCESSIVE OR AND REASONABLE. 
          AND WHERE AS LAW FURTHER PROVIDES AN EMERGENCY AND GENERAL AMBULANCE SERVICE INCLUDING EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES DEFINED AND SECTION 3001 PUBLIC HEALTH LAW AUTHORIZED PURSUANT TO GENERAL MUNICIPAL LAW SECTION 2 0 9 B SUBSECTION FOUR TO FIX A SCHEDULE OF FEES OR CHARGES TO PAID BY PERSONS REQUESTING SUCH SERVICE TO SERVICES MAY APPLY SUCH FEES AND CHARGES ONLY WITHIN SUCH SERVICES. 
          PRIMARY RESPONSE TERRITORY AS ASSIGNED AN EVIDENCE BY A VALID AMBULANCE SERVICE CERTIFICATE ISSUED BY THE COMMISSIONER OF HEALTH PURSUANT TO SECTION 3005 WITH PUBLIC HEALTH LAW WERE ON BEFORE JANUARY 1ST, 2022. 
          AND WHEREAS THE LAW FURTHER PROVIDES AN EMERGENCY AND GENERAL AMBULANCE SERVICE INCLUDING EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES TO DEFINE SECTION 3001 OF PUBLIC HEALTH LAW AUTHORIZED PURSUANT TO GENERAL MUNICIPAL LAW SECTION 2 0 9 DASH B SUBSECTION FOUR SHALL NOT DIRECTLY ISSUE A BILL FOR ITS SERVICES TO ANY UNINSURED RECIPIENT OF SUCH SERVICES. 
          AND WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG HAS HISTORICALLY AND CURRENTLY INTENDS TO CONTINUE TO EXERCISE THE AUTHORITY CONFERRED TO A BYLAW INCLUDING AUTHORIZED LAKESHORE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY INCORPORATED TO PROVIDE EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES INCLUDING BASE BLACK SUPPORT AND ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT AMBULANCE SERVICES HEREAFTER COLLECTIVELY REFERRED TO AS AMBULANCE SERVICES WITHIN ITS PRIMARY TERRITORY AS DEFINED BY PUBLIC HEALTH LAW 3001 AND IS OTHERWISE PERMITTED BY LAW INCLUDING MUTUAL AID OUTSIDE OF ITS PRIMARY TERRITORY. 
          AND WHERE IS THE BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG AFTER DUE DELIBERATION FINDING INVESTMENT TO AUTHORIZE FEES AND CHARGES OF EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES AND AMBULANCE SERVICES. 
          LAKE SHORE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANYS AUTHORIZED BY LAW. 
          AND THESE RESOLUTIONS NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED. 
          THE TOWN OF HAMBURG HEREBY AUTHORIZED FEES AND CHARGED FOR EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES AND AMBULANCE SERVICES BY LAKE SHORE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY IS AUTHORIZED BY LAW AND PROVIDED FOR BY THESE RESOLUTIONS AND IT IS FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE FEES AND CHARGES COLLECTORS SHALL BE COLLECTED AND USED BY LAKESHORE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY AS IT DEEMS APPROPRIATE FOR EMERGENCY MEDICAL AND AMBULANCE SERVICES AND OTHERWISE CONSISTENT WITH THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THE CURRENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN TOWN AND LAKESHORE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY FOR FIRE PROTECTION PURSUANT TO TOWN LAW OF 180 4 AND IS OTHERWISE PROVIDED BY LAW. 
          AND IT IS FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD HEREBY DIRECTS A LAKESHORE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY SHALL IMMEDIATELY COMMENCE REVENUE RECOVERY FOR ITS EMERGENCY MEDICAL AND AMBULANCE SERVICES AND SHALL UTILIZE A THIRD PARTY BILLING AND REVENUE RECOVERY AGENT OR AGENTS APPOINTED BY THE LAKE SHORE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY FOR SUCH PURPOSES AND UNDER SUCH TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THE LAKE SHORE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY MAY IN ITS DISCRETION FIND APPROPRIATE AND IT IS FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD HEREBY DIRECTS AT SUCH REVENUE RECOVERY BY THE LAKE SHORE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY FOR ITS EMERGENCY MEDICAL AMBULANCE SERVICE, WHICH SHALL UTILIZE THE RATE OF SERVICES AS ATTACHED TO THESE RESOLUTIONS AS SCHEDULE A, WHICH THE BOARD MAY AMEND IN ITS DISCRETION FROM TIME TO TIME AND IT'S FURTHER RESOLVED. 
          THE BOARD HEREBY DETERMINES THAT COMMENCING AT 12:01 AM ON OCTOBER 18TH, 2022. 
          AND UNTIL SUCH TIME AS A CONTRACT OR CONTRACTS HAVE BEEN ENTERED INTO WITH A PROVIDER OF PROVIDERS OF ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT SERVICES FOR SUCH ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT SERVICES OR FOR A LS INTERCEPT SERVICES, THE BOARD HEREBY SETS A MAXIMUM REIMBURSEMENT RATE TO BE PAID FOR ANY SUCH A LS OR A LS INTERCEPT SERVICES PROVIDED TO THE TOWN OR ITS FIRE DEPARTMENT SHALL BE REIMBURSED AT THE LESSER OF THE MEDICAID OR MEDICARE REIMBURSEMENT RATES IN EFFECT AT THE TIME OF SUCH A LS INTERCEPT SERVICE FOR SUCH SERVICE. 
          AND IT'S FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD HEREBY DETERMINES THAT IT SHALL A MATTER OF PUBLIC POLICY AND IS A PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE REGULATORY SYSTEMS FOR THE DELIVERY OF EMERGENCY SERVICES WITHIN THE TOWN. 
          WE HAVE ANY COPAY DUE FROM ANY RESIDENT OF THE TOWN. 
          AND IT IS FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD HEREBY DIRECTS OF ALL REVENUE RECOVERED 
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PURSUANT TO THIS AUTHORIZATION. 
          AND THESE RESOLUTIONS SHALL BE DEPOSITED AND SEGREGATED FROM OTHER LAKE SHORE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY FUNDS AND USED FOR THE DELIVERY OF EMERGENCY MEDICAL AMBULANCE SERVICES AT THE LAKE LAKESHORE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY MAY PROPERLY DETERMINE IN SOLE DIRECTION DISCRETION. 
          AND IT IS FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD HEREBY DIRECT THAT IT SHALL NOT DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY BY THE TOWN PERSONNEL OR ITS AGENTS AND EMPLOYEES INCLUDING THE TOWN BILLING SERVICE AGENCY ISSUE A BILL FOR IT SERVICES TO ANY UNINSURED RECIPIENT OF SUCH EMERGENCY MEDICAL AND AMBULANCE SERVICES PURSUANT TO GENERAL MUNICIPAL LAW SECTION 2 0 9 DASH B FOUR E. 
          AND IT IS FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE ACCEPT IS OTHERWISE PROVIDED TO YOUR END. 
          THESE RESOLUTIONS SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY. 
          SO MOVED SECOND. 
          SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER COUNTY. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? CARRIED GARY. 
          WHEREAS NEW YORK STATE, ERIE COUNTY BUFFALO BILLS ENTERED INTO A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING REGARDING THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW STADIUM FOR BUFFALO BILLS ON MAY 26TH, 2022. 
          AND WHEREAS UNDER AJOUR OF THIS, OF THIS AGREEMENT, NEW YORK STATE WILL CONTRIBUTE $600 BILLION AND ERIE COUNTY WILL CONTRIBUTE $250 MILLION. 
          AND WHEREAS THE FUNDS CONTRIBUTED BY NEW YORK STATE AND ERIE COUNTY ARE PUBLIC DOLLARS THAT ARE BEING USED TO SUPPORT A PRIVATE BUSINESS ENTITY, WHICH HAS BECOME A COMMON PRACTICE IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF NEW VENUES FOR PROFESSIONAL ATHLETIC FRANCHISES. 
          AND WHERE IT HAS ALSO BECOME A COMMON PRACTICE FOR COMMUNITIES WHO INVEST PUBLIC DOLLARS INTO NEW FACILITIES FOR PROFESSIONAL SPORTS TEAMS TO ENTER INTO A COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT WITH THE FRANCHISE. 
          AND WHEREAS THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT ARE LEGAL AGREEMENTS BETWEEN COMMUNITIES AND DEVELOPERS, WHICH STIPULATE THE BENEFITS A DEVELOPER AGREES TO FUND OR FURNISH THE EXCHANGE FOR COMMUNITY SUPPORT OF A PROJECT. 
          AND WHEREAS AN AGREEMENT TO SECURE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENTS WAS A PART OF THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING THAT ERIE COUNTY ENTERED INTO IN MAY. 
          AND WHEREAS THE INVESTMENT OF COUNTY DOLLARS SHOULD RESOLVE BENEFITS FOR EVERY COMMUNITY IN ERIE COUNTY. 
          AND WHEREAS THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM ERIE COUNTY HAVE BEGUN NEGOTIATION FROM NEW YORK STATE AND THE BUFFALO BILLS NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED. 
          BUT THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG EXPRESSES ITS SUPPORT FOR A STRONG COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT AS A PART OF A DEAL FOR A NEW BUFFALO BILLS STADIUM AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED. 
          THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG BELIEVES A STRONG COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT WILL INCLUDE REQUIREMENTS FOR INVESTMENT AND SUPPORT FOR VITAL PROGRAMMING FOR RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT ERIE COUNTY YOUTH ENRICHMENT ACTIVITIES, ACCESS TO JOBS AND ENTREPRENEURIAL OPPORTUNITIES AT THE STADIUM, IMPROVE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND AN INCLUSIVE AND TRANSPARENT PUBLIC PROCESS FOR OVERSIGHT AND HOW THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT IS IMPLEMENTED. 
          SO MOVE UNANIMOUS. 
          SECOND. 
          A UNANIMOUS SECOND OFFERED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BE LOREN. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          A A AYE. 
          OPPOSED, WHEREAS LINWOOD, RICHMOND, ROSEVIEW, THURSTON AND OLYMPIC, UH, AVENUES, UH, OLYMPIC AVENUE BEING ON THE HAMBURG SIDE LOCATED OFF OF ABBOTT ROAD IN HAMBURG AND KATHLEEN STREET, MANOR LANE AND MARYLAND DRIVE LOCATED IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA OFF OF BIGTREE ROAD IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, EXPERIENCED A SIGNIFICANT SAFETY ISSUE DURING STADIUM EVENTS DUE TO ROADSIDE PARKING AND TRAFFIC CONGESTION. 
          AND WHEREAS REVIEW OF THIS SITUATION BY THE HAMBURG TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD AND REPRESENTATIVES OF THE HAMBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT IDENTIFIED THAT PARKING ALONG THESE STREETS IMPEDES EMERGENCY RESCUE VEHICLES AND FIRE EQUIPMENT FROM REACHING RESIDENCES AND RESIDENTS IN THESE COMMUNITIES. 
          AND WHERE AS THE HAMBURG TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD VOTED TO RECOMMEND TO THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD THE INSTALLATION OF NO PARKING SIGNS ON THE FIRE HYDRANT SIDE OF THE FOLLOWING ROADS, LINWOOD RICHMOND, ROSEVIEW THURSTON, AND OLYMPIC, THE HAMBURG SIDE AVENUES AND KATHLEEN STREET, MANOR LANE AND MARYLAND DRIVE, AND THE INSTALLATION OF NO PARKING STADIUM EVENT DAY SIGNS ON THE NON-FIRE HYDRANT SIDE OF THESE SAME ROADS. 
          NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES INSTALLATION OF THE AFOREMENTIONED SIGNS ON LINWOOD RICHMOND, ROSEVIEW THURSTON, AND OLYMPIC HAMBURG SIDE AVENUES AS WELL AS KATHLEEN STREET, MANOR LANE AND MARYLAND DRIVE AND REQUEST THE TRAFFIC SAFETY COORDINATOR GENERATE THE REQUIRED REPORTER FOR THE PROJECT TO BE COMPLETED. 
          FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT DB 5 1 1 0 0.0205 AND SIGNALS SO MOVED. 
          MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER LL LORENZ. 
          SECOND. 
          SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER COMING. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? CARRIED. 
          BE. 
          IT RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVE THE TERMINATION OF THE FOLLOWING EMPLOYEE IN THE TOWN COURT AS DETAILED ON THE ATTACHMENT. 
          SO MOVED. 
          MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER FERRELL LOREN. 
          SECOND. 
          SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER COUNTY. 
          YOU ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? CARRIED. 
          BE IT RESOLVED. 
          IF THE TOWN BOARD APPROVED THE PURCHASE OF TWO PLOW WINGS AND HARDWARE AND ACCESSORIES FROM VALLEY FAB AND EQUIPMENT INCORPORATED FOR THE PRICE OF $24,857 AND 14 CENTS. 
          THE QUOTE IS PER SOURCE. 
          WELL, CONTRACT NUMBER 0 6 2 2 2 2 
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I DASH ONE. 
          THE UM THAT IS ATTACHED FOR REFERENCE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN DB 5 1 3 4 6. 
          SO MOVED. 
          MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER RE SECOND. 
          SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HALL ALL MY FAVORS AYE. 
          A AYE. 
          OPPOSED? CARRIE JURY RESOLVE THE CLERKS AUTHORIZED SCHEDULE, PUBLIC HEARING AND PROPOSAL. 
          LOCAL LAW NUMBER 11 20 22. 
          THE LOCAL LAW WILL PROVIDE FOR AMENDMENT THAT AMBER COUNTY CODE CHAPTER 2, 2 7 STREETS AND SIDEWALKS. 
          ARTICLE 2 27 DASH ONE THROUGH PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 7TH, 2022 AT 7:00 PM LOCAL TIME. 
          SECOND MOTION BY SUPERVISOR HO. 
          SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER DARRYL LOREN. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? CARRIED. 
          BE RESOLVED IN TOWN BOARD. 
          APPROVE THE AUDIT OF CASH DISBURSEMENTS DATED OCTOBER 17TH, 2022. 
          TOTAL CASH DISBURSEMENT SUBMITTED FOR AUDIT $1,305,013 AND 48. 
          SO SECOND. 
          MOTION BY SUPERVISOR HO. 
          SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          COMMON ALL FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? CARRIED. 
          ALRIGHT, THIS OPENS US UP FOR, UH, BUSINESS FROM THE FLOOR. 
          IF THERE'S ANYBODY WISHING TO ADDRESS THE DOWN BOARD, WE ASK YOU, PLEASE COME UP TO THE FRONT OF THE ROOM, KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO ABOUT THREE MINUTES OR SO, UM, AND ADDRESS THE BOARD DIRECTLY. 
          IS THERE ANYBODY WISHING TO BE HEARD AT THIS TIME? MY NAME IS ROSE. 
          I LIVE IN, UM, OUR MOTHER GO COUNSEL, UM, APARTMENTS, CURTAINS ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PLAZA WHERE THE SENIORS LIKE TO GO. 
          WE ARE HAVING TROUBLE WITH WALKING ACROSS BECAUSE OF THE LIGHTING. 
          THEY HAVE LITTLE TINY YELLOW BLINKING LIGHTS AND PEOPLE JUST GO RIGHT THROUGH THEM. 
          UM, WE HAD ONE LADY WHO WAS KILLED THERE, UH, FOUR YEARS AGO. 
          TWO OTHER PEOPLE GOT HIT. 
          UM, ONE LADY WAS CROSSING THE STREET NOT TOO LONG AGO AND SHE DIDN'T EVEN MAKE IT TO THE OTHER END WHEN A GUY JUST ZOOMED BY HER, HIT HER WITH THE MIRROR OF HIS CAR. 
          AND THEY'RE JUST HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME. 
          UM, SOME OF THEM ARE IN WALKERS, SOME ARE IN, UH, WHEELCHAIRS, AND THEY JUST DON'T STOP. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. 
          I WANNA HELP. 
          SO IF I CAN GET INFORMATION OF HOW TO DO THIS, MAYBE CHANGE THE LIGHTS OR WHATEVER. 
          OR THEY SPEED UP THAT WAY TOO, YOU KNOW. 
          SO, IN FACT, I WAS ONE WHO ALMOST GOT HIT TOO, AND HE STOPPED LIKE TWO FEET AWAY FROM ME AND I JUST WAS STUNNED. 
          I DIDN'T KNOW I, I COULDN'T EVEN GET A LICENSE PLATE NUMBER 'CAUSE I WAS STUNNED. 
          BUT THESE ELDERLY PEOPLE, IT, IT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT CAN WE DO FOR THEM? WELL, THANK YOU FOR, FOR BRINGING YOUR CONCERN TO, TO THE TOWN BOARD, UM, PUBLICLY AND, AND OFFICIALLY, UM, BY DOING SO, UM, YOU BROUGHT THE ATTENTION NOT JUST TO THE TOWN BOARD, BUT ALSO TO OUR, OUR CHIEF OF POLICE, UH, CHIEF EZ, WHO IS HERE, UH, AS WELL AS FOLKS THAT WORK IN OUR, OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IN OUR TRAFFIC SAFETY DEPARTMENT. 
          SO YOU'RE IN THE RIGHT PLACE. 
          UM, WHAT I'M HOPING THAT YOU CAN DO IS, IS HELP US TO, TO HELP YOU WORK IN COMMUNITY. 
          UM, NEXT WEEK WE HAVE, I BELIEVE IT'S MICHELLE, IS IT THE 20TH? THE GO BIKE, UH, MEETING? LET'S CHECK. 
          I SHOULDN'T HAVE SAID THE DATE UNLESS I WAS CERTAIN, BUT WE DO HAVE A MEETING COMING UP WHERE WE'RE LOOKING TO, TO IMPLEMENT AN ACTIVE MOBILITY PLAN. 
          AND THE, THE CRUX OF AN ACTIVE MOBILITY PLAN IS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN GET TO WHERE THEY NEED TO GET SAFELY WITHOUT THE USE OF A VEHICLE THAT COULD BE ON FOOT, THAT COULD BE BY BICYCLE. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO I'D INVITE YOU INTO THAT WORK, UH, WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE TOWN MM-HMM . 
          UM, WHICH, WHICH IS A MODEL THAT, THAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER FERRELL LORENZ HAS, HAS ALREADY IMPLEMENTED IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF, OF HAMBURG, WHERE WE'VE HAD SIMILAR ISSUES BROUGHT TO US BY, BY RESIDENTS. 
          SO OUR HOPE IS THAT WE CAN WORK WITH YOU AND THE FOLKS THAT YOU WORK WITH TO FIND A SOLUTION. 
          I KNOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN SOME ATTENTION AT THIS INTERSECTION AFTER THE, THE TRAGIC, UH, FATALITY. 
          UM, AND THERE HAS BEEN SOME IMPROVEMENTS. 
          WE ALSO WATCH THAT CORNER, UH, FOR SNOW REMOVAL AS WELL, BECAUSE CROSSWALK WITH BIG PILES OF SNOW IN IT ISN'T HELPING ANYBODY EITHER. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THAT. 
          UM, BUT I THINK THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME ADDITIONAL CREATIVE SOLUTIONS 
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FOR WALKABILITY, ESPECIALLY ON THAT, THAT INTERSECTION. 
          THERE'S SO MUCH POTENTIAL WITH THE, THE AREA SHOPPING OPPORTUNITIES WITH THE ACCESS TO BUS LINES. 
          UM, IT'S, IT'S REALLY SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO. 
          BUT I, I OPENED IT UP TO MY COLLEAGUES ON THE TOWN BOARD FOR, FOR THE COMMENT. 
          UM, AS LONG AS WE HAVE SOME OF THE DEPARTMENTS HERE, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT, UM, OUR ENGINEER CONSULTANT CAN PROVIDE, OR CHIEF EZ OR MR. MCCLELLEN. 
          THEY MAY HAVE SOME MORE INFORMATION THEY COULD PROVIDE. 
          SINCE THEY'RE IN ATTENDANCE. 
          I'VE BEEN WORKING PRETTY GOOD WITH, UH, MR. MCQUILLAN ON THE TRAFFIC SAFETY BOARD, SO I'M SURE WE COULD HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT AREA. 
          YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LAKE AVENUE AND FOOD COUNCIL APARTMENTS, RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          WITH THE LITTLE BLANK AND LIGHTS . 
          YEAH. 
          UM, THIS MEETING THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NEXT WEEK YEP. 
          IS THAT GONNA BE HERE? YEAH. 
          SUPERVISOR. 
          THAT IS ACTUALLY ON TUESDAY, OCTOBER 25TH. 
          AND THAT HAS BEEN 5:37 PM AND I BELIEVE WE'LL BE IN THIS MEETING IN THIS ROOM DOWN HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HEARING. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          THANKS FOR BRINGING IT TO US. 
          OKAY. 
          WOULD ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD? ALL RIGHT, THEN WE WILL GO TO REPORTS FROM, UH, DEPARTMENT HEADS. 
          WE START OVER HERE. 
          IT NOTHING TO REPORT FINANCE, HELPING REPORT ENGINEERING NOTHING. 
          REPORT POLICE. 
          WE'RE, UH, HOSTING OUR FIRST ANNUAL TRUNK OR TREAT EVENT, WHICH IS ON FRIDAY, OCTOBER 28TH FROM FIVE 30 TO SEVEN 30. 
          IT'S OPEN TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO, UH, SPREAD THE WORD. 
          WE'D LIKE TO HAVE AS MANY FOLKS PLAYING KIDS THERE AS POSSIBLE. 
          SO, FRIDAY, OCTOBER 28TH, FIVE 30 TO SEVEN 30 HERE AT TOWN HALL. 
          THANKS. 
          CHIEF YOUTH REC AND SENIOR SERVICES. 
          THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE APPOINTMENTS. 
          TRAFFIC, SAFETY, NOTHING. 
          NEW REPORT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          LEGAL. 
          NOTHING TO REPORT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          C CLERK. 
          TODAY WAS THE LAST DAY OF SCHOOL TAX COLLECTION WITHOUT PENALTY. 
          WE WILL CONTINUE TO COLLECT UNTIL ON NOVEMBER 30TH, SO PEOPLE CAN STILL PAY, BUT THEY'LL HAVE TO PAY NOW PENALTY, SO. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          DAN WILL BRING US TO REPORTS FROM, DID I MISS ANY DEPARTMENT HEADS? A LOT OF FOLKS HERE TODAY. 
          UH, REPORTS FROM THE BOARD. 
          UM, I DON'T HAVE MUCH FOR REPORTS. 
          I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE CHIEF. 
          UM, WE CO-HOSTED A NARCAN TRAINING FROM ERIE COUNTY. 
          UM, ERIE COUNTY WAS HERE TO DO THE TRAINING TO PROVIDE NARCAN, UM, YOU KNOW, AS A FIRST AID TOOL, LIFE SAVING FIRST AID TOOL. 
          THERE WAS A LOT OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT WERE HERE THAT WERE PRESENT . 
          UM, AND, AND THAT MEANT A LOT TO THEM. 
          WE HAD COMMENTED THAT THE, THE POLICE WERE THERE AS WELL TO GIVE FEEDBACK AND TO PARTICIPATE. 
          SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. 
          UM, FORWARD DONE. 
          NOTHING TO REGARD. 
          NOPE. 
          UH, JUST A QUICK REMINDER THAT, UH, ON WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 19TH FROM FIVE TO SIX 30, THERE WILL BE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PUBLIC MEETING HERE AT . 
          IT WILL BE UPSTAIRS IN THE COURTROOM AREA AND THE LOBBY. 
          UM, IT WILL BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO COME AND SEE THE PROGRESS THAT HAS BEEN MADE ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE WILL BE THERE AND THERE WILL BE AN OPEN HOUSE FORMAT, UH, FOR THE FIRST HALF HOUR. 
          THEN OUR TOWN PLANNER WILL PROVIDE A PRESENTATION WITH THE UPDATES AND POINTS OF INTEREST IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          AND THEN ALSO THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE INPUT AND TO ASK QUESTIONS AND HAVE THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED. 
          SO AGAIN, WE, UM, ENCOURAGE ANYONE WHO HAS QUESTIONS OR, UM, IDEAS, UH, CONCERNS ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE, UH, DRAFT, THE MOST CURRENT DRAFT THAT IS ON THE WEBSITE, WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO, UH, COME AND PARTAKE. 
          THIS HAS BEEN A VERY, UM, OPEN PROCESS SINCE THE BEGINNING, OVER THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS WHO ARE ON THE COMMITTEE, BUT ALSO WITH THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. 
          WE HAD A VERY ROBUST PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PLAN THAT WAS HEADED BY, UH, THE CONSULTANT WENDELL, AND WE ARE IN THE HOME STRETCH. 
          SO AGAIN, WE ENCOURAGE ANYONE WITH, UM, WHO WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THEIR INPUT STILL BE INCORPORATED INTO THE PLAN OR PROVIDE IDEAS, UH, TO BE PRESENT ON WEDNESDAY EVENING FROM FIVE TO SIX 30. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NOTHING INDIVIDUALLY TO REPORT, BUT I HAVE TO CONCUR WITH COUNCILWOMAN, UH, FARRELL RUNS. 
          IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO GO INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS SOMEBODY WHO, BEFORE I BECAME A TOWN BOARD MEMBER, WAS INVOLVED IN HEAVILY POLITICAL ACTIVISM. 
          IT'S ABSOLUTELY IMPORTANT TO HAVE YOUR VOICE HEARD THAT THIS IS HOW WE MAKE OUR DECISIONS. 
          THIS IS HOW WE MAKE, UM, PLANNING DECISIONS FOR 
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WHAT WE SEE IN THE TOWN IN THE NEXT FIVE TO 10 YEARS. 
          AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN QUITE A WHILE SINCE WE'VE OPENED UP THAT PLAN AND REALLY DUG THROUGH IT. 
          AND WE LOOKED AT WHAT, HOW THE TOWN IS CHANGING. 
          SO PLEASE COME OUT, HAVE YOUR VOICE HEARD, AND GIVE US SOME DIRECTION AS TO WHAT YOU WANT IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK, UH, THE COMMUNITY FOR COMING OUT TO SUPPORT, UH, PETE HAMBURG, PAT SATURDAY AT A FOOD DRIVE THAT I, UH, HOSTED WITH NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY MEMBER JOHN RIVERA. 
          I WOULD ESPECIALLY LIKE TO THANK OUR, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, FOR REALLY STEPPING UP IN A BIG WAY WITH SOME SIGNIFICANT DONATIONS AS WELL AS, UH, RAISING SOME, SOME MONEY FOR, TO PURCHASE A GIFT CARD THAT IS GOING TO GO TOWARDS PURCHASING, UH, MEAT, UH, TO STOCK THE FOOD PANTRY. 
          SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE ALWAYS IN NEED OF. 
          UM, AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK THE FRONTIER CENTRAL SCHOOL DISTRICT COMMUNITY FOR FILLING, UH, VANS AND TRUCKS AND BRINGING ALL KINDS OF FOOD TO STOCK THOSE SHELVES. 
          UM, IT WAS, IT WAS REALLY A, A GREAT EVENT AND, AND THAT FOOD'S GONNA GO A LONG WAY IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          I'LL OPEN IT UP ONCE MORE TO ANYBODY, UH, FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE SOME, SOME STUDENTS HERE THAT MIGHT HAVE SOME PAPERS THAT NEED TO GET SIGNED. 
          ANY OF US UP HERE, AS WELL AS KY TO DO THAT FOR YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR HANGING IN WITH US TONIGHT. 
          AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS MATTERS, PERSONNEL MATTERS, AS WELL AS MATTERS OF POTENTIAL LITIGATION. 
          SECOND. 
          SECOND, BY COUNCIL MEMBER HOPE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          BOTH GARY.
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