[00:14:39]
[00:14:39]
RIGHT[00:14:39]
FOLKS, WE'LL CALL THE WORK SESSION IN ORDER.PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE MOTION FLAG.
[00:15:01]
FOR THE WORK SESSION TONIGHT, FIRST WE HAVE, UH, A PRESENTATION FROM DREW RILEY.UM, AND THEN WE HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THE TOWN WIDE DRAINAGE STUDY.
THAT'S PRESENTATION IS SCHEDULED TO BEGIN AROUND 5 45 AND SHOULD TAKE US RIGHT TILL ABOUT SIX 30, AT WHICH POINT I INTEND TO ADJOURN FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE MATTER OF PENDING LITIGATION.
SO I HAVE A PACKET FOR EACH OF YOU AND I GAVE A COPY TO THE TOWN CLERK AND THE TOWN ATTORNEY.
UM, BASICALLY IT'S A MEMO DESCRIBING THOSE THREE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT, INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY CAMP ROAD, AND THE NEW AG DISTRICTS.
I ALSO HAVE SOME OTHER PLANNING ISSUES I WANNA BRING UP.
UM, WE ARE GETTING CALLS ABOUT CANNABIS SALES.
UM, SO PLEASE STRESS THAT I'M GONNA HAVE TO WORK WITH THE CODE REVIEW COMMITTEE IF YOU WANT PUT UP, I'M DOING THIS FOR TWO OR THREE OTHER COMMUNITIES.
WE'RE ALREADY GETTING CALLS AND ASKING FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY PEOPLE ASKING WHAT ARE THE RULES TO DO CANNABIS SALES WITHIN? AND IT'S NOT ONLY CANNABIS SALES, IT'S DISPENSARIES, IT'S IT'S MICRO CENTERS.
A CALL WE GOT WAS ABOUT A MICRO CENTER, WHICH IS BASICALLY GROW PROCESS AND SELL AT THE SAME PLACE.
SO WE GOTTA PUT A WALL TOGETHER THAT ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE JUST DOUBLE CHECK.
YOU HAVE ALLOWED SALES BUT NO USE ON THE PROPERTY, CORRECT? CORRECT.
MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THERE'S NO VERTICAL INTEGRATION IN THE MARKET THAT YOU CAN'T GROW PROCESS AND DO THE, WELL, THERE ARE DRAFT REGULATIONS OUT BY THE STATE.
THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ADOPTED HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF THIS MONTH.
AND THOSE DRAFT REGULATIONS DO PROVIDE SOME GUIDANCE TO THAT.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TAKE THOSE DRAFT REGULATIONS, PUT SOMETHING AND SHOW YOU SOME SAMPLE LAWS AND WHATEVER.
AND YOU NEED TO DECIDE WHERE YOU CAN PUT ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS ABOUT TIME.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE LIMITED TO NOT LIMITING THEM BEYOND A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF HOURS.
THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF STIPULATIONS THAT THE STATE PUTS IN THERE, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE ARE DIFFERENT REGULATIONS ABOUT, FOR EXAMPLE, THE PROCESSING.
THERE'S A DIFFERENT SET OF REGULATIONS FOR PROCESSING.
BUT IT'S JUST SOMETHING I, IT'S ONE OF MY LISTS.
BUT TOP OF YOUR LIST, WE'RE GETTING CALLS WHERE JOSH IS GETTING CALLS AND PEOPLE ARE ASKING, WHAT ARE YOUR RULES AND REGULATIONS? AS YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO NO CANNABIS SALES LICENSE GOING ON BECAUSE THERE'S ACTIVE LITIGATION IN WESTERN NEW YORK.
SO, ALRIGHT, BACK TO MY AGENDA.
OKAY, THE FIRST ONE IS INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES REZONING.
FIRST WE'RE GONNA WANT TO POINT OUT, IT'S THE SECOND THING IN YOUR PACKET IS FOR, YOU HAVE FIVE RESOLUTIONS TONIGHT TO BEGIN THE PROCESS, WE'RE JUST REFERRING, I'M NOT CALLING PUBLIC HEARINGS YET.
WE THOUGHT IT WAS WISE TO DO ALL THOSE REFERRALS FIRST.
I DO HAVE TWO AMENDMENTS TO RESOLUTION NUMBER 12 AND ROGER NUMBER 14.
THE PROCESS IS A VERY GOOD PROCESS BECAUSE WE SENT IT TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
CINDY DID A REVIEW AND OTHERS DID A REVIEW.
AND WE FOUND A COUPLE SMALL ERRORS IN THOSE, IN THOSE DESCRIPTIONS OF THE PROPERTIES WE'RE REZONING, THEY MATCHED THE MAPS, THEY JUST DIDN'T USE THAT.
SO IN YOUR PACKET IS, IS THE TWO CHANGES TO THE TWO, THE RESOLUTION CHANGES.
AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU'RE GONNA READ THE FIRST RESOLUTION IN FULL AND THEN THE SUBSEQUENT RESOLUTIONS, YOU'RE JUST GONNA READ THE FIRST, FIRST PARAGRAPH AND THEN SAY THE REST OF THE RESOLUTION STAYS THE SAME.
SO YOU DON'T SPEND 20 MINUTES READING RESOLUTIONS.
AND THEN IN THE PACKET, I JUST WANT YOU TO BE FAMILIAR WITH, AND I'VE HANDED THESE OUT BEFORE, BUT THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE BEING REZONED, THERE'S MAPS ON HERE TO SHOW YOU THOSE PROPERTIES.
'CAUSE ONCE WE START REFERRING THESE AND IT'S OUT IN THE PUBLIC AND THEY'RE ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE, YOU'RE GONNA GET PHONE CALLS AND QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.
UH, THERE IS A VERY BIG, SOME VERY BIG CHANGES TO, UH, THE INDUSTRIAL.
WE'RE ATTACKING INDUSTRIAL ZONING FIRST IN THE TOWN.
SO PLEASE REVIEW THOSE AND JUST BECOME FAMILIAR WITH 'EM.
WE'RE PASSING THE RESOLUTION TONIGHT JUST TO REFER 'EM TO THE PLANNING BOARD AND BEGIN THE PROCESS.
DID YOU NOT GET THOSE? I DIDN'T GET THE MAP.
IT SHOULD BE ATTACHED TO THAT CHANGE IN THE RESOLUTION.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY REZONING? JUST PLEASE COME FAMILIAR WITH THEM 'CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA GET QUESTIONS ON THEM.
THERE'S SOME PRETTY BIG CHANGES AND SOME OF THEM ARE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
OTHER ONES ARE A LITTLE MORE CONTROVERSIAL.
THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE PROPERTY CHANGES RAILROAD AVENUE LAKE VIEW AREA.
SOME OF 'EM ARE CIRCLED, SOME OF 'EM ARE X OFF ON THIS X OFF BECAUSE I WANTED TO SHOW YOU THE PROPERTIES THAT WERE ZONED INDUSTRIAL IN THAT LOCATION.
THE ONES THAT ARE CIRCLED ARE THE ONES WE'RE PROPOSING TO REZONE.
THE ONES XED OUT, THEY'RE NOT LISTED IN THE, IN THE DOCUMENT.
UM, THEY'RE XED OUT BECAUSE THEY HAVE EXISTING ACTIVE BUSINESSES ON THEM THAT WE WOULD MAKE NON-CONFORMING IF WE REZONE THEM.
THAT'S WHY I WAS, WE'RE TRYING NOT TO CREATE TOO MANY NONCONFORMITIES.
AND THE OTHER BIG SET OF INDUSTRIAL REZONINGS IS RIGHT OUTSIDE THE VILLAGE WHERE THE DOT FACILITY IS.
AND THE COUNTY HIGHWAY FACILITY IS THAT ONE WE MAKE CREATE ONE OR TWO NONCONFORMITIES.
THERE'S A COUPLE BUSINESSES THERE.
I MEAN OBVIOUSLY THE CA COUNTY AND STATE FACILITIES, THEY'RE REALLY NOT GONNA MATTER WHAT, WHAT THEIR ZONE THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO, WHAT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO THERE.
[00:20:01]
UM, BUT THERE'S A COUPLE, ONE OTHER BUSINESS IN THERE THAT WE'RE SUGGESTING WE REZONE.I CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING THERE.
SO WE'RE GONNA FIND OUT FROM THE OWNER ACTUALLY WHAT THEY'RE DOING THERE AND WHETHER WHETHER WE'RE GONNA CREATE SOME NONCONFORMITIES WITH IT.
BUT PLEASE, GOOD QUESTIONS LIKE THAT.
PLEASE LOOK AT THOSE, THOSE MAPS AND UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE REZONING IN THE TOWN.
IT'S PRETTY BIG CHUNK OF REZONING THAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, AND IT'S ALL IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE COMP PLAN.
CAMP ROAD, INTERCHANGE DISTRICT.
YOU HAVE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ADOPTED THE NEW CAMP ROAD INTERCHANGE DISTRICT.
I TOLD YOU THAT WAS THE EASY PART OF IT.
NOW WE HAVE TO REZONE PROPERTY AND YOUR, AND YOUR PACKET IS A MAP OF THAT AREA, THE CAMP ROAD INTERCHANGE AREA, RIGHT? YOU HAVE A COPY OF THAT AND I HAVE ONES WITH XS ON THERE.
THAT'S THE ONE THAT DEFINITELY HAS TO BE REZONED.
AND THAT'S THE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S BEING GONNA BE SOLD BY THE THROUGHWAY SOON.
SO THAT ONE'S DEFINITELY GONNA BE REZONED THE CAMP ROAD INTERCHANGE.
AND MATTER OF FACT, THE THE RE THE ZONING DISTRICT WE CREATED WILL SUPPORT THE PLAN THAT YOU AUTHORIZE AND PUT TOGETHER FOR THE CAMP, THE GATEWAY PROJECT.
THE REST OF THESE PROPERTIES ARE THINGS WE HAVE TO CONSIDER.
FOR EXAMPLE, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO REZONE THE PROPERTIES JUST WOULD BE NORTH OF THIS.
I HAVE QUESTION MARKS ON THOSE.
THOSE PROPERTIES WOULD BE GOOD TO ALSO CHANGE THE CAMP ROAD INTERCHANGE DISTRICT.
WE, I HAVE A BIG NO ON THE PROPERTY BEHIND THERE BECAUSE THAT'S THE PROPERTY THAT ANDERSON HAS AN ACTIVE PROPOSAL BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT REZONED THE CAMP ROAD INTERCHANGE.
BUT THEY HAVE AN ACTIVE, THEY HAVE AN ACTIVE PROPOSAL BEFORE THE, THE PLANNING BOARD AT THIS POINT.
AND THEN THE OTHER SUGGESTIONS THAT I HAVE ACROSS THE STREET, THOSE ARE VERY IMPORTANT PROPERTIES.
THEY'VE HAD DIFFERENT THINGS PROPOSED OVER THE YEARS.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE REZONE CAMP ROAD INTERCHANGE.
AGAIN, NOT FOR ACTION TONIGHT, BUT FOR ME, YOU ALL KNOW THIS AREA VERY WELL.
GO OUT THERE AND LOOK AT IT AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO PUT A RESOLUTION IN FOR NEXT MEETING TO, TO REZONE WHAT OF THESE PARCELS? WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO DO THE THROUGHWAY AUTHORITY PROPERTY 'CAUSE THAT'S GONNA COME UP FOR SALE SOON.
AND THEN ONE OF THESE OTHER PROPERTIES, AND AGAIN, YOU CAN EMAIL ME, ASK ME QUESTIONS, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DETERMINE WHAT ARE THESE PROPERTIES WE'RE GONNA CHANGE TO CAMP ROAD INTERCHANGE.
DREW, WE'VE BEEN HEARING THAT THEY'RE GONNA SELL THIS FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY SENT US AN EMAIL EARLIER THIS YEAR, THE END OF LAST YEAR, WARNING US THAT THEY ARE GONNA GO OUT FOR SALE ON THE PROPERTY IN THE SPRING OF 2023.
SO THEY SENT US AN EMAIL SAYING THAT MATTER OF FACT, AS PART OF THE CAMP ROAD INTERCHANGE DISTRICT, UH, THE COUNTY, I MEAN THE STATE AND THE THROUGHWAY AUTHORITY COMMENTED ON THE FACT THAT KEEP IN MIND WHEN THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY GETS SOLD, THE PROBLEM IS THEY'RE NOT GONNA ALLOW ANY CURB CUTS IN THIS AREA.
SO WE HAVE, WE'VE TALKED ON OTHER PLANNING BOARD PROJECTS, UM, DOLLAR GENERAL BEING ONE OF THEM, RIGHT UP WITH A STADIUM THAT THERE WAS A STIPULATION PUT INTO THAT PROJECT THAT YOU HAD TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE DRIVEWAY OF AN ADJOINING YES.
LIKE DO WE HAVE ANYTHING IN PLACE FOR THAT WHERE WE HAVE SAFEGUARD WHERE THE DO T'S NOT GONNA LET US PROCURE AND, AND IN FRONT OF THE DOT, UH, IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY, YOU UNDERSTAND BENDERSON OWNS THE ACCESS TO THAT.
SO OBVIOUSLY THE ACCESS FOR THEIR PROJECT IS GONNA BE DOWN COMMERCE ROAD BECAUSE RIGHT.
THEY KNOW THAT THEY, THEY CAN'T GET A, THEY CAN'T GET A CURB CUT AT THIS LOCATION.
NOW THEY'RE ALSO GONNA WORK WITH DOWN HERE TO MAYBE PUT A CURB CUT DOWN HERE AND THAT WE WOULD SEE ENVISION FOR HOW THIS WOULD WORK FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY.
DO WE HAVE ANYTHING THOUGH ON THE BUCKS? LIKE LEGALLY WE DON'T AS A, THE DOT AND THE THROUGHWAY AUTHORITY CONTROLS THIS PIECE OF LAND.
SO WHEN THEY SELL IT, THEY'RE GONNA SAY WE'RE NOT ALLOWING ACCESS FROM THIS ROAD ALL THE WAY DOWN.
BUT FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, WHERE WE'RE MINIMIZING THE CURB COSTS IS THE PROBLEM WE HAD WITH THE DOLLAR GENERAL PROJECT IS THE DOG TOLD US THEY WERE MINIMIZING THE CURB CUTS IN THAT AREA.
THAT'S, THAT'S, AND WE PUT A STIPULATION IN, YOU HAVE TO ALLOW OTHER BUSINESSES TO PROPERTY.
SO IF WE, AND WE HAVE TO REZONE THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, YEAH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT A CONDITION ON THAT REZONING THAT ACCESS IS GONNA BE PROVIDED OUTSIDE OF THIS AREA.
NOT ONLY IS THE DOT AND THE THROUGHWAY AUTHORITY, WE AGREE THAT THIS IS GONNA HAVE TO ALLOW JOINT ACCESS SOMEWHERE ELSE.
UM, BUT GOOD QUESTION, FAMILIARIZE YOURSELF WITH THAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT IN TWO WEEKS BECAUSE WHEN THEY SAY SPRING OF 2023, WE'RE COMING TO SPRING SOON.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOMETHING 'CAUSE SOONER OR LATER WHEN THEY GO OUT THE PUBLIC BID, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GONNA BUY THE PROPERTY ARE GONNA WANNA KNOW WHAT ARE WE ALLOWED TO DO ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
IT HAS NO ZONING ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
WHAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE, FROM THE COUNTY? OR WAS THERE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE FIELD OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS THAT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY SHOULD BE DEVELOPED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE GATEWAY GATEWAY STUDY AND TO CREATE A NEW ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH WE HAVE NOW DONE.
THE, THE CAMP ROAD INTERCHANGE DISTRICT HAS PUT TOGETHER, IT IS A DISTRICT THAT EXISTS NOW.
WE HAVE TO ATTACH IT TO THE PROPERTY.
WE KNOW WE HAVE TO ATTACH IT TO THE, THE ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY.
[00:25:01]
WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS LOOKING AT SOME OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.ALSO PUT THAT ONTO, WE DO HAVE SOME CONTROL AS WE TALK ABOUT CONTROL.
AND AGAIN, I'M GONNA BE VERY, VERY, VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
I'M ALWAYS STRAIGHT STRAIGHTFORWARD WITH YOU.
WHEN BENDERSON BOUGHT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, THEY GOT PORTIONS OF THIS REZONED AND THERE WAS AN IMPACT STATEMENT DONE AND THERE WERE CONDITIONS PLACED ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
SO I WILL ALSO GET YOU THAT INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT, WHAT WAS DONE AND WHAT WAS PROPOSED.
THIS IS BACK WHEN THEY PROPOSED MASS PRO AND SOME OTHER ENTERTAINMENT FACILITIES HERE AND THE TOWN PUT CONDITIONS ON IT, ON HOW THAT WAS GONNA BE DEVELOPED.
THAT DOES NOT DIRECTLY IMPACT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, BUT IT DOES IMPACT THE AREA AND HOW IT'LL BE DEVELOPED.
YOU'RE SAYING TOO THAT THE DOT IS THAT THERE'LL BE NO CAR PRESS WHEN YEAH.
BETWEEN ACTUALLY THE, THE COMMENT IS BETWEEN HERE, RIGHT, AND HERE.
BUT WHEN DID THEY GIVE US THAT INDICATION? BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN SOME CHANGE DT AN EMAIL.
I WILL FORWARD THE EMAIL TO YOU.
AND THAT EMAIL, WHEN THEY COME, THEY COMMENTED ON THE CAMP ROAD INTERCHANGE DISTRICT, AND THEIR ONLY COMMENT WAS, KEEP IN MIND THAT THERE'S GONNA BE NO, WHEN WE SELL THIS PROPERTY, THERE'S GONNA BE NO ACCESS ALLOWED AT THAT LOCATION.
YOU REALIZE AN ACCESS THERE WOULD CREATE, IT'S TOO CLOSE TO THE NEW, TO THE NEW LIGHT.
IT WOULD CREATE A BIG PROBLEM.
JUST WASN'T SURE IF IT WAS LIKE STALE ADVICE FROM FIVE YEARS AGO THAT WE WERE GOING OFF.
VERY RECENT WHEN WE DID THE CAMP ROAD INTERCHANGE.
I WILL SEND A COPY OF THAT TO YOU.
ALRIGHT THEN THE LAST ITEM IS THE BIGGER PACKET IN YOUR, IN YOUR FILE IS, UM, I HAVE A MEMO, AS YOU KNOW, UM, AT AT THE LAST MEETING, WHICH I APOLOGIZE I COULD NOT ATTEND, BUT I KNOW WE GOT A CALL FROM ONE.
WE HAD ONE COMMENT DURING THE MEETING.
UM, WE HAVE THOSE NEW AG AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT AGRICULTURAL OPEN SPACE OVERLAY.
WE HAD TO RECREATE THE LAKEVIEW OVERLAY AND THE SOUTHEASTERN OVERLAY.
WHAT I'M ASKING YOU IS NOW WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ADOPTION IN YOUR PACKET IS A MARKUP OF THE LAW.
WE ONLY HAVE A COUPLE SMALL CHANGES BASED UPON THE COMMENTS WE RECEIVED.
SO TAKE A LOOK AT VERY SMALL CHANGES.
THESE WERE COMMENTS FROM THE COUNTY AND THE COMMENTS FROM THE ONE GENTLEMAN WHO SPOKE AT THE MEETING.
AND AGAIN, THERE WAS NO NEED TO CHANGE ANYTHING IN THE LAW.
AND WE'VE LET HIM KNOW THAT HE WAS WORRIED THAT BY US ESTABLISHING THIS OVERLAY DISTRICT IN HIS AREA, THAT WE WERE CHANGING WHAT HE COULD DO ON HIS PROPERTY.
THE UNDERLYING ZONING REMAINS THE SAME.
SO WHATEVER HE IS ZONED NOW, HE IS GONNA BE ZONED AFTERWARDS.
THE OVERLAY DISTRICT JUST PUTS DESIGN STIPULATIONS ON WHAT FUTURE YOU CAN DO.
NOW, I WILL SAY THE BIG DESIGN RESTRICTION IS THAT IS A HUGE DESIGN RESTRICTION, IS THAT AREA WILL NO LONGER ALLOW MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS.
AND THAT IS A BIG ISSUE WHEN YOU ADOPT THAT.
UH, AND THE, THE REASONING IS THERE'S NO SEWERS IN THAT AREA.
THERE'S A LOT OF IMPORTANT OPEN SPACE.
THERE'S OTHER PROBLEMS. YOU'RE IN THE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE BY THE 18 MILE CREEK, UH, PROTECTION AREA, UH, UH, CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL ZONES.
SO WE'RE SAYING NO MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS.
SO THAT IS, IF ANYTHING, THAT IS THE BIG CHANGE TO THAT AREA.
OKAY? UH, THE NEW AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT, YOU'VE, YOU'RE GONNA CREATE THE AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT.
WE ARE NOT REZONING ANY PROPERTIES UNTIL PEOPLE APPLY FOR, OR WE GO OUT AND ASK PEOPLE TO DO IT.
THE IDEA IS THAT FOR AGRICULTURAL PROPERTIES, PEOPLE WITH AGRICULTURAL BUSINESSES HAVE THE OPTION OF REZONING THEIR PROPERTY.
WE THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD RE REZONING FOR THEM.
AND THEN PEOPLE WHO WANNA PROPOSE, UH, VERY UNIQUE AGRICULTURAL BUSINESSES AND WHATEVER, CAN ALSO REQUEST FOR THAT TO BE REZONED TO THAT.
SO AGAIN, IT'S A FLOATING ZONE.
WE'RE NOT, WE HAVEN'T ATTACHED IT TO ANYBODY OR MAY BE ADOPTING THE DISTRICT FOR FUTURE USE OF THAT NEW AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT.
AND THEN THE LAST TWO ITEMS ARE BECAUSE THREE, UH, 10 YEARS AGO, WE HAD THREE OVERLAYS ACROSS THE BOTTOM OF THE TOWN.
WE CONSOLIDATED THOSE OVERLAYS INTO ONE OVERLAY.
UH, YOU KNOW, AND BUT WHEN WE CREATE THIS NEW AGRICULTURAL OPEN SPACE OVERLAY, WE'VE NOW LEFT THE TWO OLD LAKEVIEW AND SOUTHEASTERN.
SO ALL I'M DOING IS REESTABLISHING THOSE TWO OVERLAY DISTRICTS WITH THIS, WITH VERY SIMILAR CRITERIA, WHAT WAS IN THEM BEFORE.
AND ALSO ADDING SOME OF THE STUFF FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN INTO THOSE, INTO THOSE DISTRICTS.
SO, UM, IT, IT'S NOT A BIG CHANGE.
IT IS JUST PEOPLE WERE TELLING ME, WHY DON'T I JUST GO BACK TO THE ONE OVERLAY AGAIN.
BUT THE PROBLEM WITH THE, THE SOUTH CENTRAL, THE NEW AGRICULTURAL OPEN SPACE OVERLAY, IS THAT RESTRICTION ABOUT NO FURTHER SUBDIVISION.
LAKEVIEW IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE CENTER PART OF THE TOWN THAN THE SOUTHEASTERN PART OF TOWN.
I THINK THEY ALL HAVE THE UNIQUE ISSUES.
SOUTHEASTERN OVERLAY DEALS WITH AESTHETICS, VIEW SHEDS, BEAUTIFUL VIEW SHEDS, CONNECTION TO THE VILLAGE, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT IN THAT AREA.
LAKEVIEW, WE ALL KNOW I WON'T GET INTO, THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES WITH LAKEVIEW.
THAT'S WHY IT SHOULD HAVE A SEPARATE OVERLAY.
SO AGAIN, I'M ASKING YOU TO REVIEW THESE SMALL AMENDMENTS AND I THINK THE AMENDMENTS ARE SMALL ENOUGH.
PLEASE REVIEW THEM THAT WE WON'T NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING.
I WOULD HOPE TO ADOPT 'EM EITHER AT THE NEXT MEETING OR THE MEETING AFTER THAT.
SO I'M LOOKING FOR YOUR DIRECTION, AUTHORIZATION
[00:30:01]
TO PREPARE RESOLUTIONS TO ADOPT THAT.SO WITH THAT, THINK I'M JUST ABOUT AT MY, MY 15 MINUTES.
UM, THE LAST THING I HAVE IN YOUR PACKET IS A MEMO ON THE CANNABIS LAW.
THOSE THINGS YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE ACT AND ALL THE GUIDANCE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
BUT I REALLY THINK WE HAVE TO START FOCUSING ON THAT BECAUSE I THINK THIS LAWSUIT'S GONNA BE RESOLVED VERY SHORTLY.
AND WE ARE GETTING PHONE CALLS AND WE HAVE TO PROVIDE SOME DIRECTION TO PEOPLE WHO, WHO WANT TO DO, UM, THESE FACILITIES IN TOWN.
AND THEN THE REST OF THE LIST IS OTHER THINGS THAT CAN CONSIDER FOR THE FUTURE.
UM, IN MY MEMO, UH, I'M TRYING TO THINK IF THERE'S ANYTHING REAL.
UH, NO BRIARCLIFF, YOU MAKING SOME RESIDENTS TONIGHT.
UM, I EXPLAINED TO, LET ME JUST EXPLAIN ON THAT REAL QUICK.
I'VE ALWAYS SAID FROM DAY ONE THAT PROJECT'S BEEN BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD.
IT'S A PLANNING BOARD APPROVAL ITEM.
WELL, IN THE PUBLIC'S REVIEW OF THE PAST HISTORY OF WHAT'S HAPPENED WITH BRIARWOOD OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS, I BELIEVE THEY FOUND A RESOLUTION THAT WAS ISSUED BY THE TOWN BOARD MAYBE 15 YEARS AGO OR SO, THAT BASICALLY THE TOWN BOARD AGREED TO NOT A, NOT COLLECTING, WE HAVE A THOUSAND DOLLARS RECREATION FEE.
AND THE RESOLUTION SAYS BECAUSE OF THE ADDITIONAL GREEN SPACE AND RECREATION WITHIN BRIARWOOD, THAT THEY WOULD WAIVE THAT FEE.
THE RESIDENTS ARE ARE USING THAT TO SAY, WELL, THAT'S A TOWN BOARD MATTER.
WE DON'T BELIEVE THEY'VE DONE THAT EXTRA GREEN SPACE AND OPEN SPACE.
SO THEY BELIEVE IT WILL BE YOUR DECISION BECAUSE NOT IN THE APPROVAL OF THE PROJECT, BUT YOUR DECISION ON THE FACT THAT THEY'RE NOT MEETING THE OPEN SPACE AND GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENT.
OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE GONNA GET INPUT TONIGHT.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA GET INPUT FROM THEM PROBABLY.
AND I'M GONNA HAVE TO DO SOME RESEARCH AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION BECAUSE IT WILL GOOD, BAD OR INDIFFERENT COME BACK TO YOU BECAUSE THEY WERE STATING THAT THERE'S A RESOLUTION ON THE RECORD THAT THE TOWN BOARD AGREED TO SUCH AND SUCH.
AND IF THEY HAVEN'T DONE THAT, WE SHOULD BE COLLECTING A THOUSAND DOLLARS A LOT OR WHATEVER.
THAT'S A, SO THAT'S A BIG ONE.
I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW ABOUT, UH, THINK THE REST OF 'EM ARE, UM, CODE REVIEW COMMITTEE SUPERVISOR.
UM, JOSH WANTS TO KNOW, HE'S BEEN CONTACTING YOU.
WHO'S THE CHAIRMAN OF THE CODE REVIEW COMMITTEE IS BILL, OR IS IT YOU? ME.
JUST MAKE SURE HE IS COORDINATING THROUGH YOU AND WE WERE JUST LIKE TO KEEP TRACK OF, OF WHAT'S GOING ON WHEN THE CODE REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETS.
ANY, AND AGAIN, PLEASE CONTACT ME.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON.
I KNOW BETH IS WORKING ON THE IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEE.
UM, THERE'S A BUNCH OF OTHER ZONING MATTERS WHERE, TELL ME IF JOSH IS DOING, HOPEFULLY HE IS NOT GETTING ANY COMPLAINTS.
WE'RE TRYING TO DO WHAT SARAH'S BEEN DOING.
HE'S BEEN DOWN HERE A COUPLE DAYS A WEEK AND THIS, HE CALLED ME THIS MORNING, HE SAID, YOU KNOW, I GOT FOUR PHONE CALLS THIS WEEKEND.
AND I'M LIKE, WELL THAT'S UH,
I SAID, MAYBE DON'T ANSWER THE PHONE.
HE DOES GET CALLS ON THE WEEKEND TOO, SO.
ALRIGHT, NOW WE MOVE ON TO DRAINAGE.
WE'VE GOT A COPY OF THE POWERPOINT.
UH, I'M DAVE JOHNSON FROM CPL.
THIS IS LUKE LESKI, ALSO FROM CPL.
AND OF COURSE WE WERE TASKED WITH DOING THE DRAINAGE STUDY, UH, FOR YOUR GUYS.
IT WAS ACTUALLY QUITE A BIT OF WORK.
AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S A PRETTY, PRETTY GOOD DOCUMENT.
[00:35:01]
CONDENSED IT DOWN TO A, UH, SUMMARIZED, UH, POWERPOINT THAT REALLY BRINGS IT DOWN.WE PRINTED IT OUT IN FRONT OF YOU THERE AND WE CLIPPED IT SO THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY TAKE SOME OF THOSE MAPS OUT IF YOU WANT THEM FOR ANYTHING.
YOU CAN TOSS THE REST IF YOU NEED TO LATER.
UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, SO WE'VE CONDENSED IT DOWN.
I'M GONNA TALK REAL FAST THROUGH THE WHOLE THING AND HOPEFULLY WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME FOR QUESTIONS AT THE END, BUT WE'RE GONNA KIND OF MOVE IT A PRETTY, PRETTY GOOD PACE HERE AND ZIP RIGHT THROUGH IT.
UM, I'LL GIVE YOU THE OVERALL FOR IT.
LET HIM BOOT UP HERE FOR A SEC AND WE'LL BE READY TO GO.
I THINK SOME OF YOU HAVE SEEN THIS ALREADY.
UH, WE HAVE ADDED TO IT SINCE THE LAST TIME.
BASED ON THE COMMENTS FROM THAT PREVIOUS MEETING.
UM, WE ADDED THE, UH, WE CHECKED OUT THE, UH, THE GOLF COURSE, WHICH WAS THE BIG, UH, ASK FOR THAT.
SO WE ADDED A WHOLE WHOLE SECTION ON THAT.
THE REPORT THAT'S IN THERE NOW, IS THAT, WAS THAT YOUR COMMENT? YEAH.
I'M GONNA DO IT OVER FROM OVER HERE SO I CAN HIT THE, HIT THE BUTTON IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU GUYS.
SO WHAT WE WERE TASKED WITH IS KIND OF LOOKING AT THE OVERALL, UH, DRAINAGE STRUCTURE OF THE TOWN AND LOOKING AT SOME OF THE PREVIOUS WORK THAT HAD BEEN DONE.
THERE WAS A PREVIOUS STUDY THAT WAS DONE IN 1962.
UM, AND WHAT THEY DID WAS A LOT OF WHAT WE DID, AGAIN, THEY GATHERED, THEY GATHERED, UH, UH, TOWN COMPLAINTS, LOOKED AT GENERALIZED AREAS OF CONCERN AND CAME UP WITH, UH, SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.
ALRIGHT, THIS IS JUST WHERE THE TOWN IS THAT PART OF THE REPORT.
UM, BUT THE BIG THING TO NOTICE HERE IS THE TOWN IS 41 SQUARE MILES AND, UM, THE LAND CONTRIBUTING TO IT IS 120 SQUARE MILES.
TYPICAL WESTERN NEW YORK CLIMATE.
UM, OF COURSE THAT'S, THAT'S A PICTURE OF YOUR TOWN, YOU KNOW IT WELL.
BUT WE, OUR STUDY WAS, UH, UH, RESTRICTED TO THE ACTUAL BOUNDARIES.
WE DID NOT STUDY BEYOND ORCHARD PARK OR THE TOWN OF BOSTON OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, ALTHOUGH YOU DO HAVE SOME OF THAT OBVIOUS DRAINAGE COMING INTO TOWN.
THEY DON'T, DRAINAGE DOESN'T RESPECT TO TOWN BOUNDARIES.
BUT WE DID ANALYZE WATERSHEDS TO ENCOMPASS THAT.
BUT THE STUDY WAS DONE ON AREAS IN THE TOWN ONLY.
UM, ONE OF THE BIG THINGS TO NOTE IS SOILS IN THE SOILS IN THE TOWN, AND ACTUALLY MOST OF WESTERN NEW YORK ARE WHAT THEY KNOWN ARE, UH, HYDROLOGIC SOIL GROUP D SOILS.
THOSE SOILS ARE, UH, NOT VERY PERMEABLE.
YOU THINK CLAY AND VERY HEAVY SOILS, THEY DON'T TRANSMIT WATER VERY WELL.
UM, EVEN THAT'S GREAT FOR MAKING PONDS.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THAT GREAT FOR TRYING TO GET STUFF OFF THE SURFACE.
UM, AND YOU CAN COUPLE THAT WITH, UH, SHALLOW DEPTH TO ROCK BEDROCK.
WE HAVE A LOT OF SHALE HERE, OBVIOUSLY, AND IT'S NOT THAT FAR DOWN.
SO YOU'VE GOT BASICALLY CLAY OVER ROCK.
SO GENERATES A LOT OF RUNOFF, NOT A LOT SINKS IN.
THIS IS A, UH, A SOIL TYPE MAP.
SO A IS YOUR SANDS, AND D IS YOUR CLAYS.
AND THEN THERE'S, YOU KNOW, EVERY VARIATION IN BETWEEN.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S NOT MUCH BLUE ON THAT MAP.
UH, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT RIGHT THERE, UH, COMING UP THROUGH THE VILLAGE.
UM, I, I'M KIND OF GUESSING THAT WAS PROBABLY AN OLD, UH, AN OLD LAKE SHORE FROM, FROM LONG TIME AGO.
AND THE REST OF IT'S ALL CLAY, UH, IN THERE.
AND WHEN YOU SAY WHEN THEY SAY CD OR BD, THAT MEANS THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY D SOILS THAT CAN BE IMPROVED TO THAT WITH SPECIAL DRAINAGE.
UM, THOSE, THOSE QUANTITIES AND QUALITIES ARE USED IN THE, UH, HYDROLOGIC CALCULATIONS THAT ARE ALL IN THERE.
I WON'T BORE YOU WITH THAT STUFF 'CAUSE THAT'S PRETTY, PRETTY IN DEPTH.
BUT IT ALL COMES FROM HOW, HOW WATER RUNS OFF OF THE SURFACE.
THESE ARE YOUR MAJOR WATER COURSES IN TOWN.
THEY'RE KIND OF EVENLY SPACED, OBVIOUSLY.
EVERYTHING DRAINS TOWARDS THE LAKE.
UH, YOU'VE GOT SOME BIG ONES AND YOU'VE GOT SOME LITTLE ONES THAT ARE UNNAMED.
UM, BUT THEY ALL WANNA MAKE THEIR WAY TO THE LAKE.
AND YOU KNOW, BY THE TIME THEY GET THERE, THEY'VE GOTTA GO THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS AND, AND, UH, UH, HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS AND, AND SHOPPING CENTERS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
AND THEY GO THROUGH A LOT OF PIPES TO GET THERE.
THE BIG THING TO NOTE OFF OF THIS SLIDE HERE IS THAT THE, THE, THE, UH, RATE OF GROWTH IN THE TOWN IS RELATIVELY STEADY.
[00:40:01]
LITTLE BIT.UM, I BELIEVE ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT OUR LAST MEETING WAS, YOU KNOW, WHERE DID THAT COME FROM? IT WAS, WE CHANGED IT.
IT WAS ACTUALLY A VERY SMALL DATE RANGE, SO THAT'S WHY THAT NUMBER WAS LIKE THAT.
SO THE NUMBER'S RIGHT, THE DATE, DATE RANGE WAS, WAS LOW.
THE BIG THING TO NOTE FROM THAT, UH, FROM THIS SLIDE, LIKE I WAS GONNA SAY, IS THAT IT'S THREE QUARTERS RESIDENTIAL, AND THEN THE REST OF IT IS YOUR COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL.
AND THEN THE REMAINING LANDS, UH, THAT ARE STILL LEFT TO BE DEVELOPED, WHICH THERE ISN'T AS MUCH AS THERE USED TO BE.
LOOKING AT THE ZONING MAP, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THOSE AREAS AND GREENS ON THE SOUTH PART OF TOWN.
UH, THOSE, THAT'S WHERE SOME OF YOUR OPEN LAND IS STILL LEFT MOST OF THE STUFF UP TO THE NORTH.
THERE'S NOT TOO MUCH LEFT BESIDES SOME LITTLE PARCELS HERE AND THERE, BUT IT'S PRETTY WELL DEVELOPED, UH, GOING UP INTO YOUR MORE, UH, INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL ZONES.
AND THEN THE BOTTOMS OF YOUR ARE YOUR RESIDENTIAL AND RESIDENTIAL AG ZONES.
UH, WE, WE, UH, GIVEN YOUR, YOUR PRECIPITATION HERE, BECAUSE THOSE WERE USED IN OUR CALCULATIONS TO GENERATE, UH, OUR, OUR PIPE SIZING ANALYSIS THAT WE DID FOR YOU, 42 INCHES OF YOURS IS, UH, IS PRETTY GOOD AMOUNT OF RAINFALL.
UH, IT'S MORE THAN THE NORTH TOWNS GET.
AND AS YOU HEAD SOUTH, THEY, THEY, THAT NUMBER TENDS TO GO UP A LITTLE BIT.
SO IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD AMOUNT OF RAIN TO, TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH HERE.
UM, YOUR DRAINAGE NETWORKS IN THE TOWN ARE A MIXTURE OF, UH, A LOT OF CULVERT PIPES.
YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF CONCRETE, YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF, UH, CORRUGATED METAL PIPE, AND YOU'VE GOT, UH, SOME OF THE NEWER PIPES ARE, UH, HDPA PLASTIC.
UM, YOU'LL SEE IN SOME OF THE PHOTOGRAPHS LATER THAT THE, THE, UH, CORRUGATED METAL PIPE IS NOT DOING REAL WELL IN TOWN.
IT'S, IT'S STARTING TO GO, IT'S, IT'S AT THE END OF ITS LIFESPAN THROUGHOUT MOST OF THE TOWN.
WE ADDED THIS MAP HERE AS A, THIS IS KIND OF AN EYEOPENER.
THIS IS, THIS TO ME IS THE MOST IMPORTANT MAP.
WELL, THERE'S ONE MORE THAT WE OVERLAY ON THIS, BUT THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT BASE MAP OF, OF THE STUDY.
AND WHY I'M GONNA SAY THAT IS THESE ARE YOUR WATER COURSES AND YOUR WETLANDS AND YOUR FLOOD PLAINS.
SO THE LEFT MAP IS YOUR WETLANDS.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THEY, THEY'RE POCK MARKED AROUND TOWN.
UM, A LOT OF THOSE IN SOME OF THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
AND THEN YOU'LL SEE THAT, UH, THE, UH, THE FLOODPLAINS, THEY OBVIOUSLY GO ALONG WITH ALL THE CREEKS THAT YOU HAVE.
BUT I'M GONNA MAKE, I'M GONNA POINT OUT A COUPLE THINGS HERE.
LOOK AT THE FLOODPLAINS HERE ALONG ROUTE FIVE.
YOU CAN SEE WHEN THEY GET ELONGATED LIKE THAT, THAT THERE'S A PINCH POINT THERE THAT'S FLOODING AS IT'S TRYING TO GET THERE.
IT HITS ALMOST LIKE A DAM AND THEN IT SPREADS OUT.
YOU SEE THAT IN A COUPLE AREAS.
IT'S KIND OF GOOD TO NOTE THAT THAT IS HAPPENING.
SO THIS, THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT MAP, OKAY? THIS IS THAT MAP, THAT SAME MAP THERE WITH THE, THE AREAS FROM THE SURVEY THAT THE TOWN DID WITH RESIDENTS OVERLAID UPON IT.
AND I'M GONNA POINT TO A FEW THINGS HERE.
SO EACH ONE OF THESE IN THE LEGEND HERE IS ONE OF THE AREAS THAT WAS GIVEN TO YOU GUYS IN THE SURVEY THAT YOU GUYS PUT OUT AND GAVE TO US.
UM, SO THESE WERE THE DIFFERENT AREAS, AND THEY'RE GONNA SHOW UP IN THE PHOTOGRAPHS I'M GONNA SHOW YOU AROUND.
BUT IF YOU NOTICE THAT EACH ONE OF THESE CORRELATES WITH EITHER A FLOOD PLAIN OR A WETLAND, OR BOTH, IN FACT, IT'S LONG LINEAR ONE, THAT'S AN ENTIRE FLOOD PLANE THAT, THAT'S, THAT, THAT'S ENCOMPASSED IN, THAT'S GONNA BE SOME OF THE PROBLEM OF THE, OF THE, UH, THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE AS A COMMON THEME THROUGHOUT OUR STUDY HERE IS SOME OF THE WET AREAS ARE WET AREAS,
SO YOU MIGHT BE STUCK WITH SOME OF THOSE AREAS.
UM, THE WATERSHED THAT WE SAID, WE'D OBVIOUSLY STUDIED THE ENTIRE WATERSHEDS OF ALL OF THE TOWN, BUT WE BROKE IT DOWN INTO 11 MAIN WATERSHEDS, WHICH ARE YOUR MAIN WATERCOURSE, AND THEN 38 SUB WATERSHEDS.
AND I'M GONNA SHOW YOU THOSE HERE.
THOSE ARE THE 11 WATERSHEDS, OKAY? AND THEY JUST ENCOMPASS EACH ONE OF THE, OF THE CREEKS, THE MAJOR CREEKS THAT PASSED THROUGH TOWN.
SO YOU CAN KIND OF, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT LIES WITHIN THOSE.
AND THEN WE FURTHER BROKE IT DOWN ON THIS NEXT MAP HERE.
THESE ARE THE SUB WATER SHEDS.
NOW THESE WERE CHOSEN BY US, UH, MORE TO, MORE SO TO DO OUR, UH, HYDROLOGIC CALCULATIONS.
THIS IS THE, THE, THE MAIN OVERALL ONE.
AND THEN THIS IS THE BREAKDOWN ONE.
THIS, THESE ARE GOOD TO HAVE THESE, UH, THIS, THESE KIND OF MAPS ARE, ARE IMPORTANT, IMPORTANT FOR, UM, IF YOU ARE GONNA USE THIS REPORT TO GET SOME GRANTS, MAYBE LATER ON, BECAUSE YOU CAN SAY THAT A CERTAIN AREA OF CONCERN IS WITHIN X WATERSHED AND YOU CAN POINT TO THIS MAP, YOU CAN USE THIS MAP, UH, TO HELP YOU WITH, UH, MAYBE GETTING SOME GRANTS LATER.
SO WE DID QUITE A BIT OF FIELD INVESTIGATION.
OUR FIELD INVESTIGATION WAS DONE DURING THE WET PERIODS.
[00:45:01]
TRIED TO GET OUT HERE DURING THE, THE WET SEASONS, UM, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER.UM, WE TRIED TO DO IT WITH RAIN, GOT A COUPLE LITTLE SNOWS MIXED IN, BUT MOSTLY RAIN.
AND, UH, LUKE HERE DID ALL OF THE, THE, THE FIELD INVESTIGATION.
HE HAD HIS OWN CREW AND THEY WENT OUT THERE AND THEY DID THAT.
AND I'M GONNA LET HIM TELL YOU WHAT HE DID AND WHAT HE USED TO GET OUT THERE AND, AND DO THAT WORK AND, AND COLLECT IT TO YOU GUYS.
SO LUKE, I'M GONNA PASS THAT OVER TO YOU.
SO WE USED THIS ARCGIS COLLECTOR APP, UM, WHERE WE COULD PINPOINT THE INFORMATION AT EACH LOCATION AND PUT ALL OF OUR INFORMATION RIGHT THERE, WHICH INCLUDED TEXT OR PHOTOS AND THE LOCATION OF IT.
AND IT WAS ABLE TO GIVE US AN ABILITY TO PUT IT ON THESE MAPS AND, AND SEE WHAT, WHERE EVERYTHING IS HAPPENING AND WHAT'S GOING ON IN HERE.
UM, WE RESEARCHED 450 CULVERTS.
UM, THREE HOVER HUNDRED OF 'EM WERE FROM THE 1962 REPORT BECAUSE THEY WERE THE MAIN CULVERTS, WHICH RUN THROUGH THOSE 13, UM, MAJOR DRAINAGE PATHS.
SO THEY'RE CRITICAL ON WHEN WE'RE RESEARCHING THIS.
UM, A LOT OF THINGS WE FOUND ISSUE ISSUES WITHIN EACH OF THE CULVERTS, UH, WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF HEAVY VEGETATING GROWTH, GROWTH UPSTREAM AND DOWNSTREAM.
UH, SEDIMENTATION COLLECTION AT THE INVERTS.
UM, A LOT OF CORRODED CMPS, WHICH IS THE CORRUGATED METAL PIPES FROM THE ROAD SALT AND JUST THE CORROSIVE PROPERTIES OF THE SEDIMENT.
AND THEN ALSO, UH, PINCHED OR COLLAPSED INLETS, OUTLETS THAT DON'T ALLOW WATER TO FLOW.
UM, AND THEN WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE CULVERTS, UH, THAT ARE CONCRETE, WE FOUND A LOT OF DILAPIDATED STRUCTURES, EXPOSED REBAR, UH, CRACKING CONCRETE BLOCKAGE OF THESE STRUCTURES, UM, AND DRAINAGE COURSE REDIRECTION.
UM, WHICH I MEAN BY THAT I MEAN, UH, WHEN THESE CULVERTS GET BLOCKED, THERE'S NO PLACE FOR THIS WATER TO GO.
SO IT BUILDS UP, BUILDS UP, AND THEN IT FINDS A PLACE OF RELIEF AND THEN IT'LL FLOOD THE AREA AROUND IT.
UM, AND THEN DRAINAGE DEMAND NOT MET BECAUSE OF PINCHED CULVERTS OR ANYTHING.
SO THESE PICTURES HERE ARE THE EXAMPLE OF A CRUSH CORRODED, UH, 12.
UM, THAT ONE WAS OBVIOUSLY HIT BY, SOMETHING BUSTED OFF, I'M SURE THE INSIDE OF THAT, THE INLET OR THE INVERT IS JUST CORRODED AWAY.
UM, AND THEN ON THE RIGHT SIDE WAS SOMETHING THAT WE SEEN ALONG.
THIS IS THE RAILWAY, THE CSX RAILWAY.
YOU CAN SEE IT AT THE TOP THERE.
THIS IS A BIG CONCRETE, UM, CULVERT.
THEY HAVEN'T BEEN CLEANED OR ANYTHING.
YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE THE WATER, UH, PATH WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU GO UP THROUGH THERE.
AND I TALKED TO SOME RESIDENTS WHEN I WAS WALKING THE RAILWAY AND THEY HAD SAID THEY HAVE ONGOING PROBLEMS. AND THAT WAS, YOU'LL SEE THAT MORE AS WE GO ALONG ALONG THAT RAILWAY.
THERE'S LOTS OF PROBLEMS. MORE EXAMPLES OF VEGETATION GROWTH.
IT LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE WENT THROUGH THERE AND CUT IT, BUT THEY DIDN'T GET IT OUT.
YOU KNOW, THEY CUT IT TOO HIGH, WHICH REALLY DOESN'T DO ANYTHING FOR THE WATER FLOW.
AND THEN ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF, UH, JUST TOTALLY FILLED UP WITH DEBRIS AND LEAVES.
UM, HERE'S SOME OF THE CONCRETE STRUCTURES, THESE BIG PIECES OF CONCRETE RIGHT IN THERE, JUST WHAT FELL AWAY FROM THAT CULVERT, JUST TOTALLY BLOCKING THE PATH.
AND ON THE RIGHT SIDE YOU CAN SEE THAT EXPOSED REBAR AND THE CONCRETE JUST CRUMBLING AWAY.
NOW THERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF THE REDIRECTED PATH, UM, UPSTREAM FROM THAT A LITTLE BIT.
THERE WAS A CULVERT AND IT WAS BLOCKED AND IT JUST OVERFLOWED.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE WOOD ARE TOTALLY FLOODED IN THERE.
UM, ON THE RIGHT SIDE, THIS CULVERT'S AT ABOUT 50% CAPACITY.
NOW IT'S, WE OUT THERE, BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE AT 50% CAPACITY.
IT SHOULD BE FREE FLOWING THROUGH THERE, BUT MUCH OF NO WATER IN THERE AT ALL.
UM, MORE EXAMPLES OF TOTAL BLOCKAGE.
DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S BEEN CLEANED IN YEARS.
AND THEN FOR THIS ONE, THIS, THIS CONCRETE, IT'S CRACKED.
IT'S PROBABLY CRACKED RIGHT DOWN ALL THE WAY TO THE OTHER SIDE.
JUST LETTING ALL THAT IN AND JUST FILLING IT UP WITH SEDIMENT OR ANY DEBRIS.
UH, ICE JAMS. WE HAVE HISTORICAL HIKE JAMS IN SMOKES CREEK, 18 MILE CREEK.
UH, LAST ONE THAT HAPPENED IN SMOKES CREEK WAS 1964, WHERE THEY STRAIGHTENED AN AREA OF THE CREEK.
THEY LET THE ICE FLOW AND IN 18 MILE OUT OF THESE ICE JAMS HAPPEN IN THE TOWN OF EDEN, JUST NORTH, UM, OF HAMBURGER, SORRY, EAST.
UM, AND WELL, HAMBURGER WILL FEEL THE DOWNSTREAM EFFECTS FROM THOSE ICE JAMS. PROBLEM WITH ICE JAMS ARE, THEY'RE VERY, UM, UNPREDICTABLE AND, YOU KNOW, REMEDYING THAT PROBLEM IS A HUGE UNDERTAKING AND SOMETIMES COULD BE IMPOSSIBLE.
[00:50:01]
SO THESE WERE THE AREAS OF CONCERN FROM THE, UM, SURVEY THAT WAS DONE.UM, HERE IS MCKINLEY ROAD AND SOUL ROAD, JUST NORTH OF BOY SCOUT POND.
UM, SHOW SIGNS OF PERIODIC POOLING OF WATER IN LOW LYING AREAS.
A LOT OF THESE, UH, BACKYARDS WERE VERY LOW.
UM, FLOODING WAS TYPICAL ALONG BAYVIEW ROAD, EXTENDING INTO ADJACENT YARDS FOR LOWER ELEVATIONS WERE OCCURRING.
UM, HERE IS LILYDALE AND DROUGHT FARMS. NOW IN THIS LOCATION THERE WAS AN UNDERGROUND SYSTEM, UM, FOR DRAINAGE.
THE ISSUE THAT I SAW HERE WAS RIGHT HERE WHERE THIS FARM FIELD IS, WHERE WE, WHERE WE HAD THESE LOCATIONS, WHERE WE WERE SEEING ISSUES.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF 'EM THAT WERE RIGHT NEXT TO THESE FARM FIELDS.
AND ONE, THERE'S NO DRAINAGE IN THESE FARM FIELDS AND ALL THIS WATER'S HITTING IT.
AND THAT'S THE DIRECTION IT'S RUNNING.
IT'S RUNNING RIGHT TOWARDS LILY DOWN HERE.
AND THERE'S ANOTHER SYSTEM GOING THIS WAY, BUT IT'S JUST OVER CAPACITY.
AND THAT WHOLE UNDERGROUND SYSTEM THERE WAS FILLED AND NEEDED TO BE CLEANED AND NEEDED MAINTENANCE ON SMOKES CREEK.
THIS ONE WAS, THIS ONE'S OBVIOUSLY IN THE FLOOD PLAINS ZONE TOO, 'CAUSE SMOKES CREEK RUNS RIGHT AROUND HERE LIKE THIS.
NOW THERE IS AN UNDERGROUND, UM, SYSTEM OF FOLIAGE CMPS WITH TWO OUTLETS GOING RIGHT INTO THE CREEK DOWN THERE, WHICH NEVER STOPPED FLOWING, NEVER STOPPED FLOWING.
SO THAT COULD BE A GROUNDWATER, UH, ISSUE.
UM, AND UP IN THIS AREA, THIS WAS ALL FLOODED IN HERE TOO.
AND WHAT WE COULD DO ABOUT THAT ONE ELECTRIC AB, THERE WAS A, SO THIS IS ANOTHER AREA WHERE WE HAVE THE THROUGHWAY AND THEN THIS, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD HERE.
NOW THERE'S A BOUNDARY OF THE THROUGHWAY AND THEN THE BOUNDARY OF THAT'S, UM, RESIDENTIAL AREA.
AND IN BETWEEN IS A LOW LYING AREA.
SO IT'S GOT NOWHERE TO GO IN THERE.
AND IT JUST SEEMS TO SIT IN THOSE PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS.
UM, THE MAIN DITCH HAD HEAVY SIDES OF VEGETATION GROWTH AND BLOCKAGE.
SO THAT'S AN AREA THAT WOULD NEED TO BE CLEANED AS WELL.
ENGLEWOOD ENGLEWOOD DRIVE, OLD LAKEVIEW, UH, THIS ONE HAD MAJOR FLOODING IN RESIDENTIAL YARDS.
BLOOM WATER OFTEN EXISTS THROUGHOUT LOCAL YARDS EXTENDING FROM THE PAVEMENT OF LAKEVIEW ROAD TO THE FOUNDATIONS OF RESIDENCES.
THE ROAD APPEARS TO LACK SUFFICIENT DRAINAGE.
SO THERE'S ONLY ONE CATCH BASE IN OUR INTAKE POINT OFF THIS POINT.
SO A COUPLE OF THESE MAY NEED RECONSTRUCTION OF THE ENTIRE UNDERGROUND SYSTEM BECAUSE OF, UM, TOO SMALL PIPES THEY MIGHT NEED TO BE CLEANED.
UM, AND ANYTHING AMONG THAT NATURE.
TRUE SMITH ROAD, THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF BEING RIGHT ALONG THESE, UM, FARM FIELDS, UM, WHERE THE DRAINAGE JUST HAS NOWHERE TO GO.
AND, AND THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR HAD NO ROADSIDE DITCHES AND NO UNDERGROUND SYSTEM FOR THAT WATER TO, TO BE ALLEVIATED.
I KNOW THERE IS A LONG LAKE VIEW, BUT ONCE YOU GO UP SMITH, I THINK I REMEMBER UP HERE FURTHER, THERE WAS, UH, DRAINAGE DITCHES, BUT IN THIS SECTION THERE WAS NONE.
AND THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THE DRAINING WAS, UH, FLOODING WAS HAPPENING.
SO THIS IS THE AREA WHERE WE SAW THE FLOODING IN THOSE WOODS IN THAT LAST PHOTO.
UM, WHERE WE HAVE, UH, IT'S EVERYTHING IS VERY LOW LINE AND THERE WAS A LOT OF PINCHED CMPS AND UNDER ROAD CULVERTS THAT DIDN'T ALLOW, UH, FOR WATER TO FLOW ON SOUTH BEND.
SO THIS AREA ALONG, UH, LAKE SHORE IS, THERE'S CONSTANT FLOODING GOING ON OVER THERE.
I SPOKE TO A WOMAN AND UM, SHE SAID THERE IS REGULAR CLEANING GOING ON OF THAT UNDERGROUND SYSTEM.
UM, BUT IT SEEMS TO NEVER BE ABLE TO CATCH UP WITH ITSELF.
ANOTHER AREA WHERE THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE RECONSTRUCTED TO LARGER SIZE.
UM, AND DEFINITELY CLEANED REGULARLY, ALTHOUGH IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE WORKING.
SHE ALSO MENTIONED TIMES WHERE WATER IS ACTUALLY SPEWING FROM THERE, LIKE SEWAGE WATER.
UH, ANSLEY LANE IS RIGHT UP THE ROAD FROM THERE.
AND THAT'S ACTUALLY THE CORNER WHERE I TALKED TO THAT WOMAN.
UM, SO THERE'S JUST LOTS OF SIGNS OF THAT WATER NOT BEING ABLE TO ALLEVIATE.
I THINK THAT, UH, THERE'S A SLOPE PROBLEM IN THE SUIT IN THE, UH, SYSTEM AND MAYBE A BACKWARD SLOPE AWAY FROM THE LAKE TO THE COURT.
UH, THIS IS UP THE ROAD FROM WHERE WE'VE SEEN THAT REDIRECTION OF WATER.
UM,
[00:55:01]
AND SHOW SLOW MOVEMENT OF DRAINAGE.SO THAT'S ANOTHER, UH, CASE OF MAINTENANCE THAT NEEDED TO BE CLEANED OUT.
LENGTH OF COLUMBIA AVE WHERE S RUNNING FROM DITCH UNDER LAKE CREST DRIVE IS PLUGGED WITH DEBRIS.
CATCH BASINS RUNNING THE LENGTH OF THE ROAD ARE ALSO PLUGGED AND SHOW SLOW WATER MOVEMENT FOR DRAINAGE, LOW AREAS AND RESIDENTIAL YARDS.
SAME STORY AS THE LAST COUPLE OF MAINTENANCE NEEDING A CLEANING IMPOSSIBLE REPLACEMENT OF SOME CULVERTS.
UM, AT THE END OF CLOVER BACK, I LIVE RIGHT UP THE ROAD FROM HERE AND I'VE NEVER SEEN AN ISSUE HERE.
AND I LOOKED MULTIPLE TIMES TO SEE IF I COULD FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON.
THIS WAS IN THE SURVEY RESPONSE AND I DIDN'T SEE ANY SIGNS OF FLOODING AT ALL.
AND EVERY TIME I LOOKED AT THE DRAINAGE UNDER THERE, EVERYTHING SEEMED TO BE CLEAN AND, AND RUNNING JUST FINE.
BUT I WASN'T ABLE TO FIND A PROBLEM IN THAT AREA.
DID YOU LOOK ALONG ROGERS ROAD ALSO IN THAT SAME VICINITY? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT, THAT THE RESIDENTS THERE, THEY'VE EVEN HAD TO QUIT DRAINAGE PIPES IN BETWEEN THEIR HOMES, ET CETERA, OVER THE YEARS.
AND I THINK THEY STILL EXPERIENCED, UM, THEY'RE RIGHT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HILL AS YOU COME FROM SOME OF THE SUBDIVISIONS THAT WERE PUT UP HIGHER ON ROGERS ROAD.
AND THE RIGHT WHERE WE'RE A LITTLE BIT PAST WHERE OVER OVERLOOK.
UM, POINT IS, DID YOU LOOK THERE ON ROGERS ALSO? WE WENT UP, I WENT UP ROGERS, THERE'S A COUPLE MAIN PATHS THAT I PROBABLY WAS FOCUSING ON.
I DIDN'T GO INTO THOSE, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS TO LOOK AT THE SMALLER, THOSE SMALLER SECTIONS IN THERE.
UM, BUT IT WASN'T A POINT OF CONCERN 'CAUSE I WAS NEVER POINTED THAT OUT.
UM, SO I, I COULDN'T TELL YOU WITHOUT GOING TO LOOK AT IT.
SO THIS IS ANOTHER AREA WHERE WE HAVE THIS RESIDENTIAL AND THEN THE TRAIN TRACKS ON ONE SIDE WITH THAT BARRIER THERE AND THE, THE WATER BEING ABLE TO COLLECT IN THERE.
THERE WAS LOTS OF POOLING WATER ALONG THE ROAD AND THERE WAS A SYSTEM OF UNDERGROUND DRAINAGE THERE AND INLETS PERIODICALLY.
BUT THE WAY THAT THIS AREA IS SLOPED, THE WATER ISN'T GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO THOSE INLETS.
SO THE WATER THAT COULD GET IN THERE COULD GET IN THERE, BUT THE WATER THAT COULDN'T IS JUST SITTING IN THESE PEOPLE'S YARDS SITTING ALONG THE ROADS AND CAUSING THOSE PROBLEMS. THE ONE PREVIOUS TO THAT, THE SLIDE, I THINK YOU SKIPPED OVER IT.
IS THAT JUST A MAINTENANCE ISSUE THERE? YES, THAT'S, THAT'S A MAINTENANCE ISSUE AS WELL.
AND THAT, THAT ONE HUGS THE, THE RAILROAD TRACKS TOO.
SO THAT'S THE, THE SAME STORY WITH THAT ONE.
WE WENT TO THE 18 MILE CREEK GOLF COURSE.
UM, I SPOKE TO SOME OF THE GUYS THERE.
THIS IS OUR FLOOD OR OUR WETLAND ZONE FROM THE DEC, THIS GREEN AREA.
AND YOU CAN SEE THIS IS NEWMAN CREEK, THIS IS 18 MILE CREEK.
IT'S SUPER WET THERE, IT'S JUST GOING TO BE WET THERE.
UM, WE DID, THERE WAS A, UH, STUDY THAT WAS DONE IN 2010.
SO I WENT THERE, I READ THE REPORT AND I SEEN ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS THEY MADE TO ALLEVIATE THE PROBLEMS. AND THERE WAS A FEW, THEY DID FOR A 10 YEAR STORM FOR A 25 YEAR STORM, AND THEN FOR A 50 YEAR STORM, THEY ONLY DID A COUPLE OF THOSE.
SO THEY DIDN'T EVEN REACH THE POINT OF REMEDIATING A 25 YEAR STORM.
UM, THEY COULD HAVE PUT IN A COUPLE BYPASSES FROM HERE TO HERE AND, UH, I THINK IT WAS, IT WAS IN HERE SOMEWHERE.
I THINK IT WAS FROM HERE TO HERE.
UM, THIS ONE WASN'T BUILT, THIS ONE WAS BUILT, BUT I THINK THIS IS A BIG ONE THAT WOULD HELP, UH, ALLEVIATE SOME OF THOSE PROBLEMS. AND WE PUT THOSE IN THAT, IN THE REPORT WHERE THAT COULD HELP, UM, FURTHER.
AND I BELIEVE IT WOULD ONLY DROP THE WATER LEVEL ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF A FOOT, BUT IT WAS ENOUGH TO KEEP IT BELOW THOSE BANK LEVELS, UM, SO THAT IT WOULDN'T COME OVER AND FLOOD.
I WAS DRIVING BY, AFTER THAT REALLY RAINY DAY, WE GOT LIKE TWO OR THREE INCHES OF RAIN AND IT WAS TOTALLY FLOOD, LIKE ALL THE WAY UP TO THE ROAD.
THE, THIS CULVERT HERE WAS TOTALLY UNDERWATER, BUT SO WAS ALL THIS PROPERTY, ALL IT WAS JUST ALL FLOODED AND IT'S BECAUSE IT FALLS INTO THAT WETLAND THERE.
MALU DRIVE, SAME STORY RIGHT UP THE ROAD FROM HERE.
RIGHT HERE IS MALU DRIVE, AND THIS IS A DEC WETLAND, IDHP ONE.
UM, ANOTHER ISSUE I SEE HERE, I KNOW WE WERE FOCUSING ON THESE HOUSES RIGHT HERE.
THERE IS A, UM, CAR WASH RIGHT THERE AND IT ALL SLOPES RIGHT INTO THE BACKYARDS.
SO NOT ONLY IS IT RIGHT IN THE WETLAND, BUT ALL THE WATER FROM THE, THE CAR WASH GOES RIGHT INTO THERE AS WELL.
I KNOW THERE WAS A DRAINAGE DITCH ON THE LEFT SIDE, BUT YOU KNOW, I CAN'T, I CAN'T TAKE IT OFF.
[01:00:01]
AND WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK AT THE, UH, PARKING LOTS RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO HERE AS WELL.THE SAME STORY FALLS RIGHT IN THAT WETLAND ZONE.
WELL, I WASN'T, I DIDN'T SEE ANY FLOODING, BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF WATER IN THE SYSTEM AT THE TIME.
IS THAT THE NEW BRAND NEW CAR WASH THAT WAS JUST PUT IN? NO, THAT'S NOT THE NEW ONE.
THAT'S RIGHT ON SOUTH MARK THERE.
YEAH, IT'S LIKE ACROSS THE STREET FROM PEGASUS.
YEAH, AGAIN, WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK AT GRAFTON, UH, BEHIND THESE ADDRESSES AND IT SITS IN THE WET, IN THE WETLAND ZONE RIGHT ALONG RUSH CREEK THERE.
AND NOT ONLY DOES IT SIT IN THE WETLAND ZONE, BUT IT IS IN BETWEEN THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE, UH, RAILROAD TRACKS.
THOSE TWO BOUNDARIES AND A NATURAL WETLAND FROM THAT RUSH CREEK.
THOSE ARE ALSO GOING TO BE WET THERE AS WELL.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE HOUSES, THEY'RE ALL THEIR BACKYARDS SLOPED RIGHT DOWN INTO THERE.
AND THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE GETTING ALL THOSE, THOSE WATER PROBLEMS DOWN THERE.
THE TOWN OWNS A, A BIG POWERFUL OF RECREATION LAND THAT, THAT RUNS ALONG.
UH, THOSE, THOSE HOUSES IS, I MEAN, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO ON THAT PROPERTY TO, TO MITIGATE THE, THE WATER? I MEAN, AS FAR AS PLANTING OR ANY NATURAL SOLUTIONS? I, I WOULD, I THINK AN OPTION WOULD BE GIVING A DRAINAGE PATH TO THE CREEKS, A CLEAR DRAINAGE PATH BECAUSE WHAT IS GOING ON IS THERE'S NOWHERE FOR IT TO GO.
SO IT JUST, IT JUST COLLECTS IN THERE AND IT GOES BACK TO THE KIND OF SOIL AND THE BEDROCK BEING SHALLOW.
AND ESPECIALLY IF THAT'S THE LOW SPOT, THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD YOU WOULD'VE TO DO IS YOU'D HAVE TO GIVE IT A PLACE TO GO, YOU KNOW, LEAD THAT PRESSURE.
AND THE ONLY VEGETATION I'VE SEEN THAT HELPS IN THE WETLAND AREAS IS OUR WILLOWS THAT YOU KNOW OF.
AND YEAH, I THINK THERE'S SOMETIMES MORE TROUBLE THAN THEIR WORTH, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
SOME PEOPLE LIKE 'EM, SOME PEOPLE DON'T, BUT THEY'RE PRETTY MESSY WHEN IT GETS WINDY.
UM, AND THEN ANOTHER PLACE WE WERE ASKING, UH, AFTER THE LAST TIME WE PRESENTED WAS THIS TWIN LAKES AREA.
UM, THERE'S TWO, TWO LAKES IN THERE AND I CAME UP, CAME UP LAKEVIEW ROAD.
SO THIS IS, SO THIS IS THE DRAINAGE PATH FROM THE LAKES, AND THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S LAKE VIEW ROAD THERE.
AS YOU SEE, IT'S PRETTY VEGETATED.
THE WATER IS VERY SLOW MOVING.
AND THAT WAS FULL, I WAS AT BANK LEVEL, WHICH IT'S A NORMAL CONDITIONS, IT REALLY SHOULDN'T BE FULL AND IT SHOULD BE NICE AND FLOWING.
UM, AND THEN I GOT OVER TO THE LAKES AND I DID NOTICE THE POND WAS HIGH.
UM, AND WHEN I GOT OVER TO THE OUTLET OF THE LAKES TO THIS DRAINAGE DITCH, I KNOW IT'S VERY HARD TO SEE, BUT THERE IS 2, 2 30 INCH RCP PIPES HERE, CONCRETE PIPES, THEY'RE ALMOST AT FULL CAPACITY.
AND THIS WAS NOT, UH, THIS IS JUST NORMAL CONDIT CONDITIONS.
NO, NO RAIN, YOU KNOW, THOSE SHOULD BE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THAT.
UM, SO OUR SUGGESTION WAS THESE, THESE WERE PROBABLY, UH, DESIGNED TO BE RETAINING, UM, PONDS, RETENTION PONDS, UM, SO THAT NOT TO OVERLOAD THAT SYSTEM INTO THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM BECAUSE THEN IT WOULD CAUSE FLOODING DOWNSTREAM.
SO OUR SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO FIND THOSE ENGINEERING REPORTS OR ENGINEERING, UH, DOCUMENTS, HOW THEY DESIGN IT AND WHAT DO THEY WANT, WHAT DO THEY WANT OUT OF THAT.
UM, BECAUSE THEY MIGHT'VE DESIGNED IT IN A WAY WHERE IF THEY MADE IT BIGGER, IT WOULD OVERFLOW AND IT WOULD CREATE A PROBLEM DOWNSTREAM, UM, WHICH IT COULD CHANGE IF YOU WANTED TO CHANGE THAT.
NOW I KNOW IT'S, IT'S FILLING UP.
UM, SO WHAT YOU COULD DO IS CREATE THAT, MAKE THAT BIGGER, WAS RCPS BIGGER OR YOU COULD CREATE A, AN OVERFLOW, UM, WHICH WOULD JUST, YOU PICK THE ELEVATION WHERE YOU DON'T WANT THE WATER TO GO OVER, AND THEN YOU CREATE YOUR WRAPAROUND A A WHERE, SOMEWHERE FOR IT TO GO.
AND THEN ONCE IT GETS THAT HIGH, IT'LL, IT'LL DRAIN THAT WAY.
SO THESE WERE THE CORRESPONDING FLOODING AREAS FROM THE 1962 STUDY.
SO YOU CAN SEE A THROUGH H, THEY WERE THE SAME IN 1962 AS THEY ARE NOW.
AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT IS JUST BECAUSE OF THE WETLAND ZONES AND, AND WHERE THEY FALL AND HOW NATURAL NATURALLY THAT WATER DRAINS OUT OF THERE.
SO THESE ARE POINTS ON ALL THE CULVERTS THAT WE COLLECT FROM THAT MAP.
WE PUT 'EM ON THERE NOW YOU CAN SEE.
SO THOSE ARE THE POINTS, THESE ARE THE AREAS OF CONCERN.
YOU CAN SEE THAT A LOT OF THESE RED ONES FALL RIGHT INTO HERE OR JUST OUTSIDE OF WHERE THOSE POINTS ARE.
SO IF YOU HAVE A BAD CULVERT JUST OUTSIDE OF IT, THAT WOULD CREATE, YOU KNOW, PINCH POINT AND IT WOULD BACK UP AND WATER WOULD FLOOD THAT AREA.
UH, THE NEXT SLIDE WE LABELED THE RED ONES.
SO WITH EASE SO YOU CAN FIND THEM IN THE REPORT.
UM, WE HAVE A LONG LIST OF EVERY SINGLE 1 0 450,
[01:05:01]
WHAT MAP THEY'RE ON, WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED, WHO, WHO IT'S OWNED BY, AND WHAT SIZE AND WHAT WE THINK YOU CAN DO TO REMEDIATE IT.SO IN THE REPORT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY RED BAG, SO THAT'S IN THE REPORT.
IT'S ALL KEYED TO THE, THE LITTLE, UH, NAMES WE HAVE FOR THEM THERE, CONDITION THAT THEY'RE IN.
AND THEN AT THE END THERE'LL BE, THERE'S A COST ESTIMATE FOR FOR DOING THAT, THAT KIND OF WORK AGAIN.
SO POSSIBLY MAYBE YOU CAN GET SOME GRANTS OR, UH, PURSUE WHOEVER OWNS THOSE CULVERTS IF IT'S NOT YOU GUYS.
AND COULD BE CSX, IT COULD BE A-D-O-T-D-P-W.
I MEAN, GOOD LUCK WITH CXX, BUT THEY'RE, THEIR, THEIR CULVERTS ARE PROBABLY A HUNDRED YEARS OLD AND THEY'RE, YEAH, THEY'RE A LITTLE ROUGH.
UH, THIS IS LONG ROOM FIVE OVER NEAR THE STEEL PLANTS, PLACE UP, LOOKED AT GOOGLE MAPS.
WE'RE WONDERING WHY THESE CULVERTS HERE ARE SO BACKED UP.
AND I KNOW WE GET CRAZY FLOODING AT THAT BRIDGE UP THERE EVERY YEAR.
AND THERE'S THAT BIG OLD BEAVER DAM, YOU CAN SEE IT FROM SPACE.
BLOCKING, BLOCKING AND IT'S ALL KINDS OF TROUBLE.
AND THOSE ARE THE, THOSE ARE BIG CULVERTS AND THEY ARE FULLY UNDERWATER.
ON A NORMAL DAY IT'S A LITTLE RAINY, BUT SHOULDN'T BE DOING, DOING ONE OF THOSE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR, BUT I KNOW RIGHT UP THE ROAD HERE, MAJOR FLOODING, MAJOR FLOODING.
THIS WAS, UH, JUST INFORMATION FROM THE 1962 REPORT, UM, AND WHAT THEY DID IN THAT REPORT.
GENERAL DRAINAGE PLANNING, WATERSHIP MANAGEMENT, YOUR PROPOSED PLANS, SAME KIND OF THINGS WE DID, BUT WE JUST EXTENDED IT FURTHER.
NOW THIS IS THE ESTIMATE, SO THIS IS KIND OF WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER.
SO IT BREAKS IT DOWN INTO WHICH WATERSHED IT WAS, WHICH STOVE WATERSHED, IT WAS THE LABEL FEATURE, UH, THE FEATURED LABOR LABEL, THE ITEM, THE LENGTH OF IT, WHAT IT COULD BE WRONG WITH IT, THE PRICE TO FIX IT, WHICH FIGURE, WHICH MAP AND, UM, WHO HOLD IT.
AND THERE WAS, THAT WAS THE TOTAL, WE CAME UP WITH SEVEN 900,000.
SO GENERAL CONCLUSIONS OF THIS REPORT, UM, MOSTLY MAINTENANCE AND CLEANING OF, UH, THE UNDERGROUND SYSTEMS OF ROADSIDE PITCHES AND, UM, MOST OF THE CULVERTS.
UM, SOME OF CASES YOU MAY WANT TO REDESIGN BECAUSE I DO, I'M AFRAID THAT SOME OF THE AREAS HAVE A BACK SLOPE, WHICH DOESN'T ALLOW WATER TO FLOW THROUGH.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHY IT'S COMING UP.
SOME OF THE, UH, INTAKES, UM, BUFFALO TERMINAL SUBDIVISION, THAT WHOLE LENGTH NEEDS MAJOR CLEANING AND RECONSTRUCTION, LIKE WE JUST SAID.
I THINK A LOT OF THE CULVERTS ARE OVER A HUNDRED YEARS OLD AND, UH, PEOPLE ALONG THERE ARE FEELING THE FLOODING FROM THERE.
UH, SO CLEANING, CLEARING AND GRUBBING DURING BATH IS, UM, SEDIMENT BUILDUPS WITH SOME DREDGING, UH, MADE APPROPRIATELY SIZING DRAINAGE FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, MAYBE GOING FROM A CORRUGATED METAL PIPE TO A PLASTIC PIPE BECAUSE WITH THE SALT AND THE FLOWERS, THEY JUST GET DESTROYED.
UM, AND THEN THE CONCRETE COLORS ARE, A LOT OF 'EM ARE IN POOR CONDITION BECAUSE OF SAME, SAME IDEA, JUST THE WEATHER AND SALT BEING OLD.
SO WHAT REALLY COMES DOWN TO YOU'RE THE, THE PIPES IN TOWN ARE, THEY'RE AT THE END OF THEIR LIFESPAN, MOST OF THEM.
UM, THEY SAID A LOT OF THE CMPS ARE CORRUGATED METAL PIPES.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE PRETTY, THEY'RE STARTING TO ROT PRETTY GOOD.
UM, EVEN THE, THE CONCRETE PIPES WHICH LAST A LITTLE BIT LONGER, THEY'RE STARTING TO CRUMBLE AND THE REBARS SHOWING, AND ONCE THE REBAR STARTS SHOWING THE SALKIN, SO THEY ERODE, THEY START COLLAPSING.
UM, AND THEN LIKE YOU SAID, JUST GENERAL MAINTENANCE.
WE HAVE A LOT OF VEGETATION STUFF.
I MEAN, I MEAN, HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENTS ARE ALWAYS OUT THERE CLEANING DITCHES AND STUFF, BUT THEY'LL, BY THE TIME THEY GET TO THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER SIDE'S ALREADY JUST GROWING BACK UP AGAIN.
IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS GONNA BE ABOUT, BUT IT DOES, IT DOES CAUSE ISSUES BECAUSE ONCE IT GROWS UP IN FRONT OF A A PIPE, IT CATCHES DEBRIS, IT CATCHES STICKS, AND THEN IT CREATES A LITTLE, A LITTLE DAM THERE AND, AND THEN IT DROPS ITS SEDIMENT LOAD AND IT JUST KIND OF CREATES A, CREATES AN ISSUE.
UM, BUT SOME OF THESE AREAS THAT, THAT, UH, THAT LUKE FOUND HAVEN'T BEEN MAINTAINED IN A LONG TIME.
SO I MEAN, THOSE ARE THE, THOSE ARE YOUR LOW HANGING FRUIT, YOU KNOW, GO GET THOSE, CLEAN 'EM OUT.
UM, PER OUR LAST MEETING WITH YOU GUYS, YOU GUYS HAD ASKED US TO BREAK THESE DOWN BY WHO OWNS THEM, WHICH WE DID.
SO THAT'S NOW IN THE REPORT, WHICH THAT WAS A GREAT IDEA.
UM, SO, SO NOW, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, IF CSX OWNS, ACCORDING TO OUR LITTLE, OUR LITTLE, UH, PIN, PIN MAP THERE, WHO OWNS WHAT? SO YOU CAN, THE ONES THAT THE TOWN OWNS, THAT'S AN EASY ONE.
[01:10:01]
GUYS HAVE CONTROL OVER THAT, UH, YOU CAN DECIDE WHETHER TO DO CERTAIN ONES OR NOT, OR, OR YOU CAN TRIAGE THOSE AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE PICK THE EASY ONES AND SAVE THE HARDER ONES FOR LATER OR VICE VERSA.AND THEN YOU CAN, I CAN MAKE SOME REQUESTS TO, UH, OTHER PLACES.
I KNOW THAT, UH, THE ONES THAT I'VE REQUESTED FROM DPW ERIE COUNTY.
UH, IF YOU TELL 'EM ABOUT IT, THEY WILL, THEY'LL PUT IT ON THEIR WORK SCHEDULE AND THEY WILL, THEY WILL GO DO IT.
UM, SOMETIMES IF THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT, THEY WON'T, THEY WON'T GO DO IT.
DOT MIGHT BE A LITTLE TOUGHER.
UM, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO REALLY GET ON 'EM TO, TO DO IT, BUT THEY, THEY WILL, I MEAN, THERE'S A DOT OUTPOST RIGHT HERE IN HAMBURG.
UH, THEY WOULD PROBABLY BE THE ONES WHO WOULD, WOULD HELP YOU OUT, BUT SO I SAID THAT'S IN THE REPORT AS WELL.
UH, WHO OWNS IT, WHERE THEY ARE, UM, AND APPROXIMATELY HOW MUCH OF IT COSTS TO DO THOSE.
UM, LIKE, LIKE I SAID, I WOULD, I WOULD USE SOME OF THIS INFORMATION IN THE REPORT TO GET GRANTS, IF THAT IS WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO DO WITH THIS INFORMATION.
UM, OR IF YOU HAVE, UH, REGULAR MAINTENANCE FUNDS, USE THIS NOW TO START PICKING AWAY AT SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
SO THAT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION TO YOU GUYS.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, DON'T FEEL FREE.
I CAN MAKE AS MANY AS YOU WANT.
UH, LET ME KNOW HOW MANY YOU NEED.
UH, CAMMY HAD RECOMMENDED BRINGING 10 OF THE, UH, POWERPOINTS, BUT IF YOU'D LIKE 10 OF THOSE, WE CAN MAKE 10 OF THOSE AS WELL.
SO LET US KNOW AND WE'LL DO THAT.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION AND I KNOW I DON'T NEED ONE OF THOSE.
UH, BUT I WOULD ASK THESE GUYS HOW MANY OF THESE WE WOULD NEED.
AND I WOULD, I YOU CAN, OR DAVID, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO RAISE AT THIS POINT? COUPLE, UM, DEFINITELY TAKE A COUPLE HARD COPIES.
DO WE HAVE ANY SHAPE FILE FORMAT? ALSO WE, THE, THE PIN, THE PINPOINT MAPS AND THE WATERSHED MAPS ARE IN SHAPE PROBABLY.
UH, SOME, MOST OF THEM ARE IN, UM, TAKE A YOU GOT 'EM? YEAH.
LARGE PRINTOUTS FOR LIKE OH, THE BACK.
COULD I, WE GOT, UM, PROBABLY SOILS.
SO MY MOVING FORWARD, I WANNA COME UP WITH A PLAN, HOW TO ADDRESS SOME OF THIS STUFF AND PUT A MANAGEMENT PLAN TOGETHER TO DO SOME OF THE CLEANING, WHETHER WE WENT IN HOUSE OR EXTERNALLY.
SO, UH, THE ESTIMATES THAT YOU HAD ON YOUR CULVER REPAIR STUFF, WHERE DID THAT COME FROM? UH, DOT FIGURES.
SO, LIKE I SAID, IF YOU DO A TO FORCES, PROBABLY YEAH.
TRYING TO, WE'RE BUILDING A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE DOT.
WE'RE GOING TO LUNCH WITH HEATHER THIS WEEK OF A NEW RESIDENT DOWN HERE.
SO I, THIS ONE OF THE MANY THINGS WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT RINA.
UM, BUT YEAH, I AGREE WITH IT.
THAT ONE POND THAT YOU HAD FLOODED UP THERE.
YEAH, I DIDN'T CATCH THE LOCATION ON IT.
IT'S UM, WHAT ROAD IS THAT? IT'S OFF OF LAKE VIEW THERE.
IT, IT WASN'T BUILT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS BUILT WITHIN REASONABLE TIMEFRAMES.
IT WAS VERY LIKELY ENGINEERING REPORT, TWIN LAKES LAKE VIEW.
IT'S WHAT, UM, CAN TOLD YOU NOTICED THAT IT'S CALLED SOMETHING ELSE ON LAKE YOU IN BETWEEN ROUTE FIVE AND, UM, 20.
IF I HAD A MAP I COULD SHOW YOU ON THE MAP.
YOU MIND REPORT ON THAT? DID YOU PRIORITIZE AREAS? YES.
THEN WHEN YOU'RE PLANNING TO DO ANY LIKE CLEANING TO WORK YOUR WAY UPSTREAM, START AT THE LOWEST PART, WORK YOUR WAY UPSTREAM.
YEAH, YOU HAVE TO, THERE'S A COUPLE OF TOWN HOME PONDS THAT HAVE TO GET HIM.
LIKE, WE'RE ACTUALLY WRITING A PROPOSAL RIGHT NOW TO CHECK SOME OF THE SMALLER THINGS, BUT IT MIGHT HAVE TO, ONCE WE GET THIS TO DIGEST A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.
YEAH, IF YOU QUESTIONS, YOU CAN ALWAYS JUST, I MEAN, SO YOU KNOW THE, IT'S A LITTLE DEPENDENT ON OVER BY ROAD.
IT'S IN OVER THERE, SOME CORNER.
I GOT ON THOSE BED ONCE TO REALLY CLEAN THAT OUT AND I FOUND OUT THE WHOLE THING.
I'M MORE WORRIED ABOUT THE RAILROAD.
THAT'S THE TOUGH, THAT'S THE TOUGHEST ONE.
IT'S CAUSING A LOT OF PROBLEMS JUST GETTING AHOLD OF HUMAN.
UM, MAINTENANCE AND, UH, CLEANING.
DID YOU AND SOME OF THE OTHER, UH, AREAS, YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU, KEN JUST ASKED WHAT I WAS WONDERING
[01:15:01]
ABOUT THE PRIORITIZING THE ISSUES.DID YOU ALSO IN SOME CASES GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE PREFERRED REMEDY? BECAUSE THEY'RE IN, IN THE PAST, EVEN WHEN SOME OF THESE AREAS HAVE COME UP, THERE'S BEEN DEBATE AS CAMMI CAN ATTEST TO, THERE'S BEEN DEBATE OF WHAT'S THE PREFERRED REMEDY.
SO DID YOU PROVIDE SOME GUIDANCE IN THAT REGARD TOO FOR SOME OF THESE PROBLEMATIC ISSUES? YEAH, SO LIKE IN, IN THE, IN THE, IN THE BREAKDOWN OF THE DIFFERENT, UM, CULVERTS MM-HMM
THEY'VE ALL BEEN ALSO HYDRAULIC HYDRAULICALLY ANALYZED.
SO IF THEY'RE UNDERSIZED, IT'S AN AUTOMATIC REPLACE.
IF THE INVERT IS ROTTEN, IT'S AN AUTOMATIC REPLACE.
IF IT'S, IF IT'S FILLED WITH DEBRIS, IT'S CLEANED THE DEBRIS OUT, SEE IF IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.
IT'S, IT'S HOW THE REPORT IS DONE AND EACH OF THOSE PROBLEM AREAS IN THAT REPORT ARE DETAILED MUCH BETTER THAN WE WERE ABLE TO.
LIKE I SAID, THIS WAS A REAL BRIEF OVERVIEW.
'CAUSE I KNOW FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE ARE GOING AFTER GRANTS, WE'RE GONNA NEED SOME OF THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION, VERY DETAILED AND INFORMATION FOR OUR GRANT APPLICATIONS.
IT, IT WAS WRITTEN AS IF YOU GUYS WERE GONNA GET A GRANT.
SO HOWEVER FORM THAT PROBABLY NEEDS TO GO TO OUR GRANT WRITER
WHO DO YOU, WHO DO YOU USE? UH, MARK MALKI.
I HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION ON THE, YOU MENTIONED TWO OF THE FARMS AGRICULTURAL AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE PROPER DRAINAGE MM-HMM
AND IT'S BASICALLY GOING INTO THE ADJOINING NEIGHBORHOODS.
WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY AND HOW DO WE TACKLE THAT ISSUE? IT'S TOUGH WITH THE RIGHT TO FARM LAWS.
UM, YEAH, I WOULD CHECK WITH YOUR TOWN ATTORNEY ON THAT ONE TO SEE WHAT THE BEST LINE OF ATTACK IS ON THAT BECAUSE YOU, I KNOW YOU HAVE TO TREAD LIGHT WITH LIGHTLY WITH FARMS. UM, THEY HAVE A LOT OF RIGHTS.
UM, BUT IF IT IS CAUSING, YOU KNOW, DISTRESS TO THE NEIGHBORS, THEN YEAH, YOU CAN, YOU CAN DEFINITELY DO SOMETHING.
OPEN LAND JUST DRAINS DIFFERENTLY.
IT'S A LOT MORE RUNOFF OF OPEN LAND.
DO YOU HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS? I'M SURE YOU'VE ENCOUNTERED SITUATIONS LIKE THAT BEFORE IN OTHER AREAS, DO YOU HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS, YOU KNOW, CLEVER SOLUTIONS? HOW CAN WE SATISFY BOTH IF THE ROAD DOESN'T HAVE DRAINAGE? YOU CAN, YOU CAN ADD DRAINAGE TO YOUR RIGHT OF AWAY ANYTIME.
THAT'S WHAT YOUR HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENT CAN DO.
UM, SO HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO INTERCEPT SOME OF THAT.
UM, WE COULD, WE COULD DISCUSS THAT WITH HIM IF HE'D BE UP FOR THAT.
UH, TO SEE IF YOU THINK ANY OF THOSE AREAS COULD GET TAKEN UP BY ROADSIDE DRAINAGE.
I THINK DALE BETTER DRAINAGE ONE OR MAYBE ONE OR TWO YOU COULD DO THAT WITH.
AND ACTUALLY BOTH OF 'EM, I THINK THEY BOTH COULD DE BY DRAINAGE.
I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO ADJOURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE MATTER OF, UH, PENDING LITIGATION.
[02:01:21]
[02:01:24]
ALRIGHT[02:01:25]
FOLKS.[02:01:25]
SORRY[02:01:25]
WE'RE[02:01:25]
RUNNING[02:01:26]
A[02:01:26]
FEW[02:01:26]
MINUTES BEHIND TONIGHT.UM, BUT UH, I'LL CALL THE TOWN BOARD MEETING TO ORDER AND CALL ON CLERK KY TO ROLL.
COUNCIL MEMBER CONLEY, PRESENT SUPERVISOR OVER PRESENT.
COUNCIL MEMBER LORENZ FER PRESENT.
I, UH, WOULD ASK EVERYBODY TO STAND AND JOIN ME FOR THE PLEDGE OF THE ONE NATION.
OKAY FOLKS, WE HAVE, UH, SOMEWHAT OF A LIGHTER AGENDA TONIGHT AND WE'LL TRY AND GET THIS THROUGH THIS AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.
WE GOT SOME FOLKS HERE, SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN SPEAKING, YOU WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE MEETING TO, UH, ADDRESS THE TOWN BOARD.
UM, AND WE'LL JUMP RIGHT INTO THE AGENDA.
THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD DOES HEREBY APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING AS FOLLOWS, REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING.
SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER C****R FOR A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HO.
WHEREAS THE TOWN BOARD APPROVES THE TOWN OUT OF TOWN TRAVEL OF THE TOWN CLERK CATHERINE KY TO ATTEND THE 41ST ANNUAL NEW YORK STATE TOWN CLERKS ASSOCIATION CONFERENCE IN SYRACUSE, NEW YORK FROM APRIL 22ND TO APRIL 25TH, 2023.
THE ESTIMATING COSTS ARE AS FOLLOWS.
CONFERENCE REGISTRATION, $180 HOTEL AND MEALS $543.
TRANSPORTATION, $90 FOR A TOTAL OF $813.
FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN COUNT A 1 4 1 0 0.492 AND A 1 4 1 0 4 5 1.
MOTION COUNCIL MEMBER COMING FOR A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER FERRELL.
REQUEST A RESOLUTION FOR THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZING ALCOHOL WAIVERS FOR THE FOLLOWING.
MARCH, APRIL TAYLOR ROAD CABIN RENTALS.
MARCH 18TH, 19TH, 23RD, 24TH, 25TH, 26TH.
APRIL 1ST, SECOND, EIGHTH, 13TH, 15TH, 16TH, 20TH.
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER CONLEY.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CONFER ALL IN FAVOR AND SAY AYE.
WHEREAS A YOUTH RECREATION AND SENIOR SERVICES DEPARTMENT IS WORKING TO BECOME MORE EFFICIENT AND STREAMLINED ADMINISTRATIVE TASK AND HAS DECIDED TO ONLY CHARGE ONE FEE FOR EACH OF THE SIX ROUTES PROGRAMS FOR THE VAN SERVICE, WHICH IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH A DA REGULATIONS, THE PRICES AS OUR FOLLOWS.
HAMBURG SENIOR COMMUNITY SERVICE CENTER IN TOWN.
CITY NORTH, $30 ADULT DAY SERVICE.
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER CONLEY.
WHEREAS THE FULL-TIME STAFF OF THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT AND THE MEMBERS OF THE RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD ANNUALLY CONDUCT A REVIEW OF ALL CHARGES AND FEES FOR PROGRAMS, LEAGUES, RENTALS, CLASSES,
[02:05:01]
ET CETERA, ADMINISTERED AND OPERATED BY THE DEPARTMENT.AND WHEREAS THE DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE CHANGES TO SAID FEES TOOK PLACE AMONG THE AFOREMENTIONED PARTIES LAST WEEK AND WHEREAS THE DEPARTMENT AND RAB DID DETERMINE THAT A MODEST INCREASE OF FEES CHARGES TO SOME OF THE PROGRAMS OFFERED IS JUSTIFIED AND WARRANTED BASED ON THE CURRENT MARKET TRENDS, COST INCREASES AND OTHER DETERMINING FACTORS.
AND WHEREAS THE DEPARTMENT AND RAB HAVE SUBMITTED FOR CONSIDERATION TO THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD THE MODIFICATIONS AS ATTACHED.
SO MOVE, OH, NOW, NOW I'M SORRY.
NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD DOES HEREBY APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS PROPOSED BY THE DEPARTMENT AND THE RAB AS CONTAINED AND ENUMERATED ABOVE SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER COUNT SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CU.
WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG OWNS AND MAINTAIN A PUBLIC PARK KNOWN AS WILLIAM D. WILLIAMS TOWN PARK AND WHEREAS IT IS IN NEED OF UPGRADES AND RECONSTRUCTION OF DRAINAGE INLETS AND PIPING.
AND WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT HAS SOLICITED FOR PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES TO SURVEY DESIGN AND PERFORM A HYDROLOGICAL AND HYDROLIC ANALYSIS AND GENERATE CONSTRUCTION BID DOCUMENTS TO REPLACE EXISTING STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
THE HAMMER TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZED THE TOWN SUPERVISOR TO SIGN THE PROPOSAL FROM NUSSBAUMER AND CLARK INC.
FOR THE WILLIAMS D WILLIAMS PARK STORM WATER DRAINAGE PROJECT IN THE AMOUNT OF $15,000 FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN DA 0 0 0 0 0 9 0 9 DA FUND BALANCE.
SECOND MOTION MAY COUNCIL MEMBER COUNTY SECOND MAY.
COUNCIL MEMBER RECO LORENZO IN FAVOR? AYE.
WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT HAS PREPARED BID DOCUMENTS FOR THE TOWN OF HAMBURG TOWN BEACH DREDGING THREE YEAR TERM AGREEMENT AND RAMP REPAIR PROJECT.
AND WHEREAS A PUBLIC BID OPENING WAS HELD ON TUESDAY, MARCH 7TH, 2023.
AND WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG RECEIVED SEALED BIDS FROM FOUR ELIGIBLE CONTRACTORS, WHEREAS THAT THE LOWEST RESPONSIBLE BIDDER FOR THIS PROJECT IS UNION CONCRETE AND CONSTRUCTION CORP.
HAVING SUBMITTED BIDS FOR HOURLY RATE AMOUNTS FOR THE CALENDAR YEARS.
2025 $3,015 PER HOUR AND BASE BID TWO ITEM RAMP REPAIR IN THE AMOUNT OF $89,900.
BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN SUPERVISOR IS AUTHORIZED TO SIGN THE CONTRACTED AGREEMENT WITH UNION CONCRETE AND CONSTRUCTION CORP.
AND ISSUE THE NOTICE OF AWARD AND NOTICE TO PROCEED AT THE APPROPRIATE TIMES COST FOR THIS PROJECT WILL BE CHARGED TO A 7 2 3 0 4 0 4 0 6 DREDGING ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR RAMP REPAIR TO BE SUPPLEMENTED BY FUND BALANCE A 0.0 0 0 0 0 9 0 9.
MOTION BY COUNCIL RECURRENT SECOND BY C MEMBER.
BE IT RESOLVED AS TOWN BOARD APPROVED.
THE TERMINATION AND HIRING OF PERSONNEL FOR THE YOUTH RECREATION AND SENIOR SERVICES DEPARTMENT AS FOLLOWS, SECOND.
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER COUNTY SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER COMERFORD.
AND LISA ON THESE NEXT ONES I THE FIRST ONE ALL THE WAY THROUGH AND THE SECOND ONE'S JUST THE FIRST PARAGRAPH? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
AND THEN JUST, UH, BE SURE TO NOTE THE AMENDMENTS.
WHEREAS THIS RESOLUTION INTRODUCES A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO ZONING MAP OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG TO REZONE PARCELS ON THE WEST SIDE OF CAMP GROVE NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF SS ROAD WITH THE FOLLOWING SBL NUMBERS FROM M TWO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO C TWO GENERAL COMMERCIAL ONE 70.00 DASH THREE DASH 4 1 1 70 0.0 DASH THREE DASH 6 3 1 1 70 0 3 2 1 70 0 DASH 3 6 2 AND 1 70 0 DASH THREE 30.
AND WHEREAS A PROPOSED ZONING MAXIMUM IS PROPOSED IN THE FORM OF A LOCAL LAW PURSUANT TO THE AUTHORITY GRANTED TODAY, TOWN OF HAMBURG TOWN BOARD AND THE TOWN BY ARTICLES TWO AND THREE OF THE NEW YORK STATE MUNICIPAL AND RULE LAW.
AND BY ARTICLE TWO OF THE NEW YORK STATE STATUTE OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
AND THE TOWN BOARD IS AUTHORIZED AND POWERED BY CHAPTER TWO 80, ARTICLE X-L-V-I-I-I
[02:10:02]
OF THE CODE AND ARTICLE 16 OF NEW YORK TOWN LAW TO AMEND THE ZONING MAP FOR THE TOWN OF HAMBURG TO MEET THE GROWING AND CHANGING NEEDS OF THE TOWN.AND WHEREAS SINCE 2019, THE TOWN HAS BEEN IN THE PROCESS OF UPDATING ITS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND EVALUATING POTENTIAL ZONING CODE AND ZONING MAP AMENDMENTS THROUGHOUT THE TOWN, INCLUDING INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES AND EVALUATING OTHER LAND USE ISSUES THROUGHOUT THE TOWN.
AND WHEREAS THROUGH THE PROCESS UPDATING THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE TOWN HAS IDENTIFIED AREAS THAT HAVE USED AS IMPROPERLY ZONED IN LIGHT OF CHANGES IN THE TOWN AND THE REGION SINCE THE ADOPTION OF THE LAST COPY OF THE PLAN UPDATE IN 2008.
AND WHEREAS THE TOWN'S NEW 2022 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS BEEN ADOPTED AND THE TOWN BOARD HAS AUTHORIZED THE TOWN PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND THE TOWN PLANNING CONSULTANT TO BEGIN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLAN.
AND WHEREAS IN ANTICIPATION OF THE INTRODUCTION OF THE PROPOSED ZONING MAP AMENDMENT, BUT THE TOWN'S PLANNING CONSULTANT HAS PREPARED FOR THE TOWN BOARD'S REVIEW PART ONE OF A FULL ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM PURSUANT TO CCRA OF A WI A COPY IS ATTACHED AS EXHIBIT A TO THIS RESOLUTION.
AND WHEREAS PURSUANT TO NEW NEW YORK STATE MUNICIPAL HOME RULE LAW, SUBSECTION 20, A COPY OF THIS RESOLUTION WAS RECEIVED BY EACH MEMBER OF THE TOWN BOARD PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
THE PROPOSED LOCAL LAW SHALL BE DEEMED TO BE ON THE DESK OF EACH MEMBER OF THE TOWN BOARD AS OF TONIGHT'S BOARD MEETING.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED BY THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG AS FOLLOWS, THE TOWN BOARD HAS DETERMINED THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED WITH THE RE RESIGNING OF THESE PARCELS FOR THE REASONS SET FORTH IN THIS RESOLUTION.
PURSUANT TO NEW YORK STATE MUNICIPAL HOME RULE LAW SECTION 20 IN SECTIONS EIGHT THROUGH 15 AND TWO 80 DASH 3 3 8 OF THE CODE, THE TOWN BOARD HEREBY INTRODUCES TOWN OF HAMBURG LOCAL LAW NUMBER, WHICH NUMBER X OF 2023, A LOCAL LAW TO AMEND THE ZONING MAP OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG TO RE ZONE PARCELS ON THE WEST SIDE OF CAMP ROAD.
NEAR THE INTERSECTION WITH SOLES ROAD WITH THE FOLLOWING SBL NUMBERS FROM M TWO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO C TWO GENERAL COMMERCIAL ONE 70.00 DASH THREE DASH 4 1 1 70 0.0 DASH THREE DASH 6 3 1 70 0 0 DASH THREE DASH 2 1 70 0.00 DASH THREE DASH SIX TWO AND ONE 70.033.
PURSUANT TO PROVISIONS OF SEEKER, THE TOWN BOARD HEREBY DETERMINES TO CLASSIFY THE ADOPTION OF THE PROPOSED ZONING MAP AMENDMENT AS A TYPE ONE ACTION IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR AID OF NEW YORK STATE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION LAW AND SIX N-Y-C-R-R PART 6 1 7 DASH FOUR B TWO.
FURTHER PURSUANT TO SEEKER THE TOWN BOARD FURTHER DETERMINES THAT IT WILL BE THE ONLY AGENCY WITH APPROVAL AUTHORITY OVER THE PROPOSED ACTION.
ACCORDINGLY, THE TOWN BOARD HEREBY DECLARES ITSELF TO BE THE LEAD AGENCY FOR THE CONDUCT OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW OF THE PROPOSED ACTION.
UNDER SEEKER, THE TOWN BOARD HEREBY ACCEPTS THE FEAF OF THE PROPOSED ACTION, WHICH HAS BEEN PREPARED BY THE TOWN'S PLANNING CONSULTANT COPY, WHICH HAVE ATTACHED AS EXHIBIT A TO THIS RESOLUTION.
THE TOWN BOARD HEREBY DIRECTS THAT THE PROPOSED ZONING MAP AMENDMENT BE REFERRED TO ERIE COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENT AND PLANNING.
PURSUANT TO SECTION 2 39 M OF THE NEW YORK STATE GENERAL MUNICIPAL LAW, THE TOWN BOARD HEREBY DIRECTS THE PROPOSED ZONING MAP AMENDMENT BE REFERRED TO THE TOWN PLANNING BOARD FOR ITS REVIEW.
AND FOR ADVISORY REPORT PURSUANT TO SECTIONS TWO 80 DASH THREE 40 B OF THE CODE, THE PLANNING BOARD SHALL DELIVER ITS RESPONSE TO THIS REFERRAL TO THE TOWN BOARD.
THE TOWN BOARD HEREBY DIRECTS THE PROPOSED ZONING MAP AMENDMENT TO REFER TO THE COUNTS CODE REVIEW COMMITTEE FOR ITS REVIEW.
IN ACCORDANCE WITH NEW YORK STATE MUNICIPAL HOME RULE LAW SECTION 25, THE TOWN BOARD SHALL SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED ZONING MAP AMENDMENT AT A FUTURE MEETING THE TOWN BOARDED TIME AND DATE IS YET TO BE DETERMINED TO BE HELD AT THE TOWN OF BURG TOWN HALL, LOCATED 6,100 SOUTH PARK AVENUE, HAMBURG, NEW YORK, 1 4 0 7 5.
THE TOWN BOARD DIRECTS THE TOWN CLERK TO PROVIDE NOTICE OF THE PUBLIC OF THE PUBLIC HEARING IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS SET FORTH THE NEW YORK STATE MUNICIPAL RULE LAW ARTICLE 16 OF NEW YORK TOWN LAW AND SUBSECTION TWO 80 DASH THREE 40 OF THE CODE AND DIRECTS THE TOWN CLERK TO PUBLISH OF THE PROPOSED ZONING MAP AMENDMENT IN THE TOWN'S OFFICIAL NEWSPAPER, NOT LESS THAN 10 CALENDAR DAYS PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THE TOWN BOARD ALSO DIRECTS THE TOWN CLERK TO POST A COPY OF THE PROPOSED ZONING MAP AMENDMENT ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE AND TO MAKE A PAPER COPY OF THE PROPOSED LOCAL LAWS AVAILABLE FOR REVIEW BY THE PUBLIC AT THE TOWN HALL, LOCATED AT 6,100 SOUTH PARK AVENUE, HAMBURG, NEW YORK ON 4 0 7 5.
THE TOWN BOARD HEREBY DIRECTS THE TOWN'S PLANNING CONSULTANT TO PREPARE FOR THE TOWN BOARD'S REVIEW AT A LATER DATE, A PART TWO AND PART THREE OF THE SEEKER ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM TO THE TOWN BOARD'S REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER FERRELL.
ALRIGHT, AND THIS, UH, NEXT RESOLUTION I'M GOING TO OFFER A, AN AMENDMENT TO THE FIRST UH, PARAGRAPH.
WHEREAS THIS RESOLUTION INTRODUCES A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING MAP OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG TO REZONE PARCELS NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF LAKEVIEW ROAD, OLD LAKEVIEW ROAD AND
[02:15:01]
EVANS ROAD WITH A FOLLOWING SBL NUMBERS FROM M TWO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO C TWO, GENERAL COMMERCIAL 1 95 11 DASH THREE DASH 1 1 95 11 DASH THREE DASH 2 1 95 DASH 2 5 2 1 95 11 DASH 3 3 1 1 95 11 DASH TWO DASH TEN ONE NINETY FIVE ELEVEN DASH THREE DASH 3 2 1 95 0 0 DASH TWO DASH 25 12 1 95 11 DASH THREE DASH 1 95 11 DASH TWO NINE AND 1 95 15 DASH 1 2 1 95 8 DASH 13 DASH 7 1 95 8 13 1 95 11 DASH 1 95 11 8 AND 1 95 11 DASH THREE DASH 3 21.AND THE SUPPLEMENTAL WAREHOUSE CLAUSES THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH RESOLUTION 11.
MOTION BY SUPERVISOR HOKE SECOND BY COUNCIL NUMBER FAR RUNS.
OPPOSED? CARRIED RESOLUTION 13.
WHEREAS THIS RESOLUTION INTRODUCES A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING MAP OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG TO REZONE PARCELS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE RAILROAD NEAR LAKEVIEW ROAD WITH THE FOLLOWING SBL NUMBERS FROM M TWO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO RA RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL 1 93 0.00 DASH FOUR DASH 7 1 93 0.0 DASH 4 6 1 9 3 4 3 11 AND 1 93 4 DASH TWO AND THE ADDITIONAL WAREHOUSE CLAUSE IS CONSISTENT WITH RESOLUTIONS.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER FERRELL.
OPPOSED? CARRIED RESOLUTION NUMBER 14 WHEREAS THIS RESOLUTION INTRODUCES A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING MAP AT THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, THE REZONED PARCELS IN THE AREA NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF CAMP ROAD WITH DAILY DRIVE WITH THE FOLLOWING SBL NUMBERS FROM M TWO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO U ONE MIXED USE.
1 180 2 20 DASH TEN SEVEN TWENTY ONE.
180 2 20 DASH 10 DASH 7 180 2 20 DASH TEN SIX ONE EIGHTY TWO TWENTY DASH 10 DASH 4 1 180 2 20 DASH 10 DASH 3 180 2 20 DASH 10 DASH 2 180 2 20 DASH 10 DASH 5 11 180 0 DASH 10 DASH 180 2 20 DASH 10 DASH 180 2 20 DASH TEN ONE AND 180 2 DASH 20 DASH 10 DASH 23.
AND TO REZONE THE PARCEL WITH SBL NUMBER 180 2 16 DASH SEVEN DASH THREE ONE FROM M THREE GENERAL INDUSTRIAL TO MU ONE MIXED USE AND THE ADDITIONAL WHEREAS CLAUSES DO WE NEED TO UPDATE THAT THAT WAS AN AMENDMENT THAT WAS AN AMENDMENT AND THE ADDITIONAL WHEREAS CLAUSES, UH, CONSISTENT WITH RESOLUTIONS 11, 12 AND 13.
THAT AMENDMENT BEING THE SBL NUMBERS, WHICH WERE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT I READ RATHER THAN THAT WHAT WAS ON THE AGENDA.
I'M STAND AB UM, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ABSTENTIONS SOMO RESOLUTION 15.
WHERE IS THIS RESOLUTION? INTRODUCES A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING MAP OF THE TOWN OF HAMID RE ZONE PARCELS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE RAILROAD NEAR HEALTH ROAD AND PLEASANT AVENUE WITH THE FOLLOWING SBL NUMBERS FROM M TWO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO RRA RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL 180 1 0 1 5 11 N 180 1 0 2.
UH, AND THE ADDITIONAL WAREHOUSE CLAUSE IS CONSISTENT WITH RESOLUTIONS 11, 12, 13 AND 14.
MOTION BY SUPERVISOR SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER FERRELL AL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED? CARRIED, I BELIEVE EVER BRINGS US TO THE, UH, AUDIT OF CASH DISBURSEMENTS.
I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE TOWN BOARD AUDIT OF THE CASH DISBURSEMENTS DATED MARCH 13TH, 2023.
TOTAL CASH DISBURSEMENTS SUBMITTED FOR AUDIT $871,960
[02:20:01]
AND 63 CENTS.SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CONLEY.
THAT BRINGS US TO BUSINESS FROM THE FLOOR AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE SOME FOLKS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
UH, WE ASK THAT, UH, YOU STAND IF ABLE ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS DIRECTLY TO THE BOARD, NOT TO THE AUDIENCE.
UH, AND IF AGAIN, KEEP 'EM TO AROUND THREE MINUTES.
MY NAME IS PAT EK AND I'M, UM, A DIRECTOR ON THE BRIER CLIFF HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.
AND THE HOA IS TAKING THE LEAD TO BRING A TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE ISSUED TO THE TOWN BOARD'S ATTENTION.
WE ARE REQUESTING THAT THE TOWN BOARD PROVIDE US A 15 MINUTE TIME ALLOTMENT DURING PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE TOWN BOARDS MEETING MARCH 27TH.
SO WE CAN PUBLICLY PRESENT ON THE RECORD A RECREATION SPACE ISSUE THAT HAS GONE ON, UH, FOR 30 YEARS AND CONTINUES TO THIS DAY.
SERIOUS ISSUE AFFECTS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG AND ALL OF ITS TAXPAYERS.
THE RECREATION SPACE TRAIL SYSTEM THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE PROVIDED BY BURKE DEVELOPERS IN THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS AND THE REC FEES, UM, WOULD'VE GONE TO THE TOWN TO ENHANCE TOWN RECREATION SPACE TOWN WIDE.
THE RECREATION FEE WAS WAIVED IN EXCHANGE FOR THE DEVELOPER GIVING DEVELOPABLE RECREATION SPACE TO THE PUD.
CODE 6 4 1 STATUTE MAKES IT A FEDERAL FELONY TO STEAL MONEY OR PROPERTY BELONGING TO THE GOVERNMENT WORTH MORE THAN A THOUSAND DOLLARS.
THE ISSUE WE BRING TO YOU IS THAT THIS TOWN HAS LOST 350,000 OR POSSIBLY 500,000.
WE HUMBLY ASK YOU TO LET US PRESENT THIS INFORMATION ON THE 27TH.
WE WILL HAPPILY IN THE IN TRANSPARENCY SHOW YOU EVERYTHING WE FOUND SO THAT PRIOR TO THE 27TH YOU CAN READ IT FOR YOURSELVES AND THEN MAKE A UNINFORMED DECISION.
COULD WE GET THAT, UM, THE 27TH? WE'RE NOT PREPARED TO DISCUSS THAT AT THIS TIME.
WHEN WOULD YOU LET US KNOW? WE WOULD LET YOU KNOW BEFORE THE 27TH.
ANYBODY ELSE FROM THE FLOOR? HI TAMMY.
I COULD CHAIR AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW, UM, WHAT YOU HAVE DONE MEETING WITH MR. S SPEK AT FRONTIER SCHOOLS REGARDING THE SENIOR RECREATION, UM, CENTER.
THAT'S, IT'S A VERY LONG STORY.
UM, ARE YOU LOOKING FOR THE WHOLE STORY? UM, BASICALLY, UH, ARE YOU WORKING OUT DETAILS AND WHAT WOULD WE LOSE IN THE SENIOR CENTER AND WHAT WOULD WE KEEP? SURE.
I'D BE, I MEAN, WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO FRONTIER FOR ALMOST A YEAR NOW OKAY.
SO, UM, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO, TO GIVE YOU A THOROUGH BRIEFING OF, OF THE ENTIRE, UH, THE ENTIRE SITUATION.
UM, I CAN GET YOU MY CONTACT INFORMATION.
I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO, TO TO HAVE A PHONE CALL WITH YOU ON, ON THAT.
SO, IN OTHER WORDS, WE CAN'T HAVE A MEETING WHERE, WHERE OTHER PEOPLE ARE IN THE ROOM HERE, SO OTHERS CAN, CAN KNOW ABOUT IT.
OH, I'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE ANY INFORMATION.
IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, UM, THAT, THAT YOU WOULD LIKE, LIKE TO ASK, I'D BE HAPPY TO, TO ENTERTAIN THEM.
WELL, UM, I'M, I'M LOOKING AT THIS, UH, BREAKDOWN OF CLASSROOM SPACE.
WHAT, UM, WHAT CAN THE TOWN KEEP FOR THE SENIORS AT THIS POINT WITH YOUR, YOUR, UH, DISCUSSIONS WITH THE SCHOOL? YEAH, SO AT THIS POINT WE'VE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE STATE EDUCATION COMMISSIONER THAT INDICATES THAT, UH, SHE IS NOT, UH, GOING TO APPROVE THE EXTENSION OF THE LEASE.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S AS MUCH INFORMATION AS, AS WE CAN SHARE, UM, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN THE NEAR TERM REMAINS TO BE SEEN.
SO, IN OTHER WORDS, AFTER THE END OF JUNE, UH, IT LOOKS AS THOUGH WE MIGHT HAVE IT FOR THE SUMMER, THE PROGRAMMING THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, I CAN'T SAY THAT FOR SURE.
UH, THEN WHERE WOULD I GET THAT INFORMATION SO I CAN CONTACT YOU? UM, MICHELLE CAN GET IT TO YOU.
UM, CAN I GET IT NOW OR SHOULD I WAIT? SHE CAN GIVE
[02:25:01]
IT TO YOU.ANYBODY ELSE FROM THE FLOOR? OH, UH, MY NAME IS DAVID DEINES.
I LIVE HERE IN THE TOWN, UH, MORE ON THE SENIOR CENTER.
I DID ATTEND THE MEETING, MR. EK, UH, I DID SEE THE ZONING THAT HE'S PROPOSING FOR SLOWLY TAKING OVER THE, UH, THE SENIOR CENTER.
AND I SEE THAT'S GOING TO, IT'S GONNA BE A SLOW PROCESS TO THE THREE YEARS BEFORE PROBABLY, UH, HALF IT'S PUSHED OUT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING.
I DIDN'T BRING MY PAPERWORK, MAN.
I THOUGHT I HAD IT WITH ME IN THE TRUCK, BUT WITH THE BREAKDOWNS OF WHAT HE'S PLANNING TO DO, UH, I KNOW YOU HAVE PROBABLY A LENGTHY PLAN GOING AHEAD.
I MEAN, IT'S, UM, WE HAD TO KNOW AT SOME POINT THAT THIS WAS GONNA HAPPEN.
THEY OWN THE BUILDING AND USUALLY THE STATE OF EDUCATION, STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION WILL SIDE WITH MOST OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
UH, IF YOU HAVE A, UH, EVEN A A OFF THE CUFF PLANE, I MEAN, WE'VE GOTTA PROBABLY START WORKING FOR BUILDINGS AT THIS POINT, AT LEAST A LOCATION THAT WE CAN START MOVING SOME OF OUR PROGRAMS TO.
YEAH, I THINK IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE TOWN BOARD ENTERED INTO THIS AGREEMENT WITH FRONTIER, WE DIDN'T ASSUME THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE BUILDING AFTER 10 YEARS.
SO I I DO TAKE ISSUE WITH YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT YOU SHOULD HAVE ASSUMED THAT WE DON'T OWN THE BUILDING.
THE LEASE THAT WE SIGNED, IT WAS A 19 YEAR TERM RIGHT.
WITH THE OPTION TO PURCHASE FOR A DOLLAR.
OUR ASSUMPTION, THE TOWN'S ASSUMPTION, I'M ASSUMING AT THE TIME I WASN'T IN THIS POSITION, BUT BASED ON THE NEWSPAPER ARTICLES I READ AT THE TIME, THE TOWN'S INTENTION WAS TO, TO HAVE THE BUILDING AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S INTENTION WAS FOR THE TOWN TO HAVE THE BUILDING INDEFINITELY.
SO WE'RE CERTAINLY DOING, CURRENTLY DOING AN INVENTORY OF WHAT OTHER SPACES MAY BE AVAILABLE FOR OR TOWN PROGRAMMING.
WELL IT, UM, I READ THE LEASE.
I'M NOT A LAWYER, I CAN'T TELL YOU FULLY UNDERSTAND IT, BUT IT DID, IT LEFT AN OPEN AND OUT FOR EACH ENTITY, WHICH SCHOOL DISTRICT AND FOR TOWN, TOWN COULD HAVE SAID AT THIS TIME, LIKE, WE DON'T WANT THIS.
ABSOLUTELY MADE THAT DECISION, BUT NOW WE'RE AT A POINT THAT THEY DO OWN THE BUILDING.
YOU KNOW, FOR YOU, EVEN FOR YOU TO BUY IT FOR A DOLLAR AT THE END OF NINE YEARS, IF THAT WERE THE CASE, STILL WOULD'VE TO GO UP FOR PUBLIC REFERENDUM AND THE VOTERS FRONTIER SCHOOL DISTRICT TAXPAYER HAVE TO, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT EXACTLY WHAT THE LEASE SAID.
NOT LEAST SAID, BUT, UH, LEGALLY, ACCORDING TO MR. SW, THAT'S WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN.
IF YOU WANTED TO BUY THE BUILDING TODAY, SAY FOR SAID APPROXIMATE VALUE, USED 4 MILLION, WE'VE SEEN SOME OF THE, UM, THE APPRAISALS THAT WERE DONE THAT HE SHARED WITH US, UH, STILL HAVE TO GO BEFORE THE VOTERS OF THE DISTRICT.
AND I'M NOT, TRUST ME, I'M NOT AGAINST US LOSING THIS BUILDING.
I, I WANT US TO KEEP THE BUILDING, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN A SITUATION THAT THAT'S HIGHLY UNLIKELY.
WE'RE BE ABLE TO KEEP THIS BUILDING.
WE, WE KEEP PART OF IT FOR THREE TO FIVE YEARS, BUT UNDERSTANDING THE PROGRAM, THEY WANNA RUN THROUGH IT.
UH, BIG PICTURE PROGRAM, WHICH IS ACTUALLY WORLDWIDE.
THERE'S SEVERAL COUNTRIES THAT USE THIS PROGRAM.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING FRONTIER DREAMT UP IN THE PAST YEAR AND SAID, HEY, WE WANNA DO THIS TO GRAB A BUILDING BACK.
THEY DECIDED THEY WANT TO PUT A VIABLE PROGRAM IN PLACE FOR THE STUDENTS.
SO AGAIN, I'M GONNA GO BACK ROUND TO, WE NEED A PLAN AS A TOWN, AS A BOARD, THAT WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO? 'CAUSE HIGHLY LIKELY WE'RE GOING TO, STARTING IN SEPTEMBER, WE'LL START LOSING PIECES OF THAT.
THE SCIENCE LAB IS ZONE B IS THE SIDE WHICH SENIORS USE, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THE GYMNASIUM AND, UH, THAT CAFETERIA AND KITCHEN.
AND THEY EVEN LOOKING AT TAKING OVER PART OF THE KITCHEN IN THE ADULT DAY EVENTUALLY.
SO THAT PUSHES THOSE PEOPLE OVER.
AND THAT'S THAT PROGRAM ALONE.
I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF ACTIVITIES GO THROUGH THAT, BUT THAT PROGRAM AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE WORKED FOR IN, IN THE PAST HIGHLY ACCLAIMED PROGRAM THAT'S NOT OFFERED BY, WELL SENIOR CENTERS IN THIS COUNTY.
IT'S ONE OF THE FEW THAT ARE ACCESSIBLE TO NOT ONLY RESIDENTS, BUT SURROUNDING RESIDENTS.
PEOPLE COME AS FAR AWAY AS SPRINGVILLE AND BUFFALO TO USE THAT PROGRAM.
SO WE NEED A PLAN AND YOU GUYS HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, IT'S, WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD IN THAT DIRECTION.
WE CAN'T SIT ON LAUREL AND HOPE THAT SOME SORT OF, UH, LEGAL MESS WE CAN WIGGLE OUT.
IT WAS REALLY THE BEST LEASE FOR US TO GET INTO.
'CAUSE THE TOWN NEEDED THE SPACE 'CAUSE PROGRAM IS EXPANDING AND IT WAS A GREAT WAY TO, YOU KNOW, AT LEASE FOR 10 YEARS HAVE IT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STARING DOWN A, YOU KNOW, AN UNLOADING OF THE SCHOOL WANTING TO TAKE OVER THAT BUILDING.
[02:30:01]
AND STATE BOARD IS ALREADY OF EDUCATION HAS ALREADY PAVED THE WAY FOR THEM.I WOULD LOVE TO GET IN, YOU KNOW, ON ANY INFORMATION YOU'VE GOT IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.
YOU, YOU SAID YOU WOULD SHARE THAT WITH SOMEONE ELSE OR SURE.
THERE, THERE ABSOLUTELY IS INFORMATION THAT I'D BE WILLING TO SHARE AND THEN THERE'S OTHER INFORMATION THAT, THAT WOULD BE UNFAIR TO SHARE.
GIVEN THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN, I CAN ENSURE YOU THAT TOMMY HAMBURG YOUTH RECREATION AND SENIOR SERVICES DEPARTMENT OVER THE PAST 20 PLUS YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN AFFILIATED WITH ALL OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS, UH, HAS BEEN ABLE TO GET VERY CREATIVE IN USING AND FINDING SPACE THROUGHOUT THE TOWN TO BRING QUALITY LIFE PROGRAMS TO THE RESIDENTS.
AND I, I KNOW THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN WITH THE RESOURCES OF THE TOWN, WHICH ARE CONSIDERABLE.
UM, THERE'S, THERE'S POSSIBLE PARTNERSHIPS AND COLLABORATIONS WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS OR BUSINESSES.
THERE'S PROPERTY ACQUISITION, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT, THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING, BUT TO GIVE DETAILS WOULDN'T BE FAIR TO THE ORGANIZATIONS OR BUSINESSES THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY IN TOUCH WITH.
I JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, LIKE I LOOKING FOR HERE, YOU KNOW, ARE PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED IF THERE'S ANY BREAK IN SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS, ESPECIALLY THE ADULT DAY.
I MEAN, BEING COVID PUT A PRETTY
SO IT WOULD BE A VERY DIFFICULT, UH, IF WE WERE KICKED OUT OF THE BUILDING BY THE SUPERINTENDENT TO SUSTAIN ALL THE PROGRAMS AT THE SAME LEVEL THAT RIGHT.
LIKE I SAID, THERE'S MANY ARE CONCERNED PROGRAMS WILL GET BROKEN AND YOU MAY NOT GET THEM BACK FURTHER.
THE TOWN HAS BEEN ABLE TO, UM, OFFER USE OF THAT BUILDING TO OTHER ORGANIZATIONS MM-HMM
UM, TO CARRY OUT PROGRAMMING THAT ISN'T THE RESPONSIBILITY OR THE PURVIEW OF THE TOWN.
SO THOSE ORGANIZATIONS ARE ALSO GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR NEW HOMES.
THEY WOULD HAVE TO WORK ON THEIR OWN TO LEASE FROM, FROM THE DISTRICT OR, OR FIND OTHER ARRANGEMENTS.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PIECES.
I KNOW I'VE LIVED IN TOWN MOST OF MY LIFE, SO I KNOW IT'S, IT'S MANY GOOD SERVICES HERE THAT I USED AS A, AS A KID.
AND NOW I'M GETTING CLOSE TO BEING A SENIOR.
SO IT'S, UM, I HOPE THAT, UH, WE PAVE A PATH FORWARD.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE FLOOR? THEN WE WILL GO TO, UH, REPORTS FROM THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND IT ANYTHING THE DEPARTMENT, UH, CODE ENGINEERING, UM, THE MOUNT VERNON, UH, C CTV IS STILL GOING WELL.
WE GOT 25,000 MILLION FEET DONE OUT OF 80,000.
SO THEY'RE MAKING GOOD PROGRESS.
THEY GAVE US TWO CREWS, SO THAT'S GONNA GO FASTER.
WE'RE DOING SPOT REPAIRS AS WE FIND 'EM THAT ARE CRITICAL.
SO, UH, THERE'S STILL GONNA BE, UH, CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT IN THAT AREA.
UM, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IS, UM, WE'RE HAVING THE ANNUAL ISO CODE REVIEW MEETING ON WEDNESDAY.
SO WE HAVE TO REPORT ALL OF OUR CODE CHANGES AND STUFF, UM, TO THE STATE.
AND THAT HAPPENS THIS WEDNESDAY.
SO THAT'S THE REPORT FROM THERE.
ENGINEERING CONSULTANT, UH, JUST THAT WE HAD, UH, ANOTHER MEETING ON THE TOWN ARENA, UH, PROJECT AND I DISTRIBUTED TODAY THE LINK TO THE SURVEY, UH, ASKING QUESTIONS OF ALL TOWN RESIDENTS, UM, WHAT THEY LIKE AND FEEL THERE ARE NEEDS AT THE TOWN ARENA.
UM, SO THAT WILL BE MAKING ITS WAY IN PUBLIC.
THERE ARE, UM, BUSINESS CARDS UPSTAIRS IN, IN THE LOBBY AREA AND POSSIBLY IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE IF THEY DROP 'EM OFF ON THEIR WAY OUT, UM, WITH CODES AND LINKS TO GET TO THAT SURVEY.
PLEASE ANSWER IT AND PARTICIPATE IN THE DECISIONS.
UH, POLICE, UH, WE FOUND OUT TODAY THE RESULTS OF THE POLICE EXAM THAT WAS OFFERED IN SEPTEMBER ARE OUT TODAY.
SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO FILLING OUR VACANCIES EVENTUALLY.
UM, WE ARE CURRENTLY, UH, STARTING, UH, ZONE, ZONE TWO BRUSH, UM, AND, UH, MAY 6TH ALONG WITH THE, UH, HIGHWAY IN ERIE COUNTY.
I'M GONNA DO A HEAD IT, WASTE, WASTE DROP OFF AT OUR BARNS UP IN NEW ROAD.
UH, ERIE COUNTY APPLYING FOR THE, UH, PROPER PERMIT RIGHT NOW FOR IT.
UM, NEXT WEEK WE'LL BE ANNOUNCING THE STREETS THAT'RE GONNA BE GETTING PAVED ON THE FIRST WAVE AND, UM, WHAT OUR TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY THIS PAST WEEK I WAS AT ALBANY, UM, FIGHTING FOR, UH, GETTING US TRY TO GET US SOME MORE MONEY TO PAY SOME MORE ROADS THERE.
IT WAS, UH, ABOUT A THOUSAND, UH, SUPERINTENDENTS AND, UH, ALL ACROSS THE U STATE WAS A, IT WAS A GREAT TURNOUT.
[02:35:01]
THURSDAYS ARE A LOT ELECTRONIC, UH, RECYCLING DROP OFF AT OUR BARN.YOUTH RECORDS, UNION SERVICES.
UM, WEDNESDAY WE'LL BE HAVING OUR BIRTHDAY TOY GIVEAWAY.
WE HAVE ABOUT 43 FAMILIES WHO SIGNED UP FOR THAT.
UM, YOUTH WILL BE COMING OR THE PARENTS OF YOUTH WILL BE COMING AND PICKING OUT, UH, TWO TOYS PER CHILD.
WE HAVE OUR GOLF COURSE, WHICH WILL BE OPENING VERY SOON.
AND THE LIFEGUARDS WE'RE HIRING BECAUSE THAT'LL BE HERE BEFORE WE KNOW IT.
SO IF ANYBODY IS INTERESTED, WE ARE GONNA HAVE THE APPLICATION ONLINE.
UM, AND WE WILL HAVE A POSTCARD GOING OUT WITH THE LINK TO THE ICE ARENA INFORMATION AND HIRING INFORMATION AS WELL.
THAT'LL BE GOING TO EVERY TOWN, EVERY HOUSE IN TOWN.
AND NOW WE HAVE, UH, REPORTS FROM THE BOARD.
UM, JUST AN UPDATE ON THE RECYCLING, UH, REFUGE COMMITTEE WILL BE MEETING TOMORROW, FOUR 30.
SO WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF INPUTS.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE GONNA DO IS GO OVER A LOT OF THE EMAILS, PHONE CALLS, UH, DATA POINTS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM RESIDENTS.
SO ANYBODY THAT, UH, HASN'T, UH, VOICED THEIR, UH, CONCERN OR OPINION, UH, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO, UH, BEFORE TOMORROW NIGHT, IF POSSIBLE.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD.
THEY PUT A LOT OF, UM, THOUGHT AND PLANNING AND EFFORT INTO CREATING THE EVENT, UM, THIS WEDNESDAY FOR THE BIRTHDAY GIVEAWAY.
I THINK IT'S REALLY A, A WONDERFUL, UM, PROGRAM THAT'S GOING TO TAKE PLACE AND THEY PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT AND EFFORT INTO THIS, AND SO I'D LIKE TO JUST THANK THEM FOR THAT.
UM, I JUST WANNA REPORT THAT, UM, I RECEIVED NOTIFICATION FROM THE HEALTH FOUNDATION FOR WESTERN CENTRAL NEW YORK THAT WE WILL BE RECEIVING A GRANT FOR $25,000 TO SUPPORT OUR ACTIVE MOBILITY PLAN THAT WE'VE CONTRACTED WITH GO BIKE.
UH, TO DO THIS GRANT WILL COMBINE WITH $25,000 THAT WAS PROVIDED BY LEGISLATOR JOHN GILMORE AND $50,000 PROVIDED BY STATE SENATOR SEAN RYAN FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS PROJECT BUDGET FOR OUR ACTIVE MOBILITY PLAN.
AND MORE SPECIFICALLY, WE'LL BRING THIS PLAN INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS OF HOOVER BEACH, WOODLAWN, AND DALE.
IN ADDITION TO THE FUNDING, WE ALSO WILL BE, UH, WORKING WITH A COHORT OF GRANTEES, UH, ON, ON SIMILAR PROJECTS.
WE, I BELIEVE WE MAY BE THE ONLY GOVERNMENT ENTITY THAT'S PART OF THAT, THAT COHORT.
SO, UH, VERY EXCITING TO BE A PART OF THAT, THAT GRANT OPPORTUNITY.
UH, STUDENTS, UH, IF YOU NEED SOMETHING SIGNED, YOU CAN COME UP HERE, UH, TO GET THAT DONE.
WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT FOR YOU.
AND I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON A PERSONNEL MATTER AND MATTER OF PENDING LITIGATION.