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WE HAVE A, UH, PRETTY FULL AGENDA THIS EVENING.
WE HAVE A COUPLE FOLKS THAT ARE GONNA BE PRESENTING DURING THE WORK SESSION, AND THAT INCLUDES SUPERINTENDENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, MR. TON, AND HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENT AT USE.
UH, THEN WE, UM, MAY WE, ME TO ADJOURN FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION, UM, UH,
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IF THERE'S A NEED, BUT WE'LL CONSULT YOU WITH MS. POE WHEN SHE ARRIVES.UH, AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, REPORT SCHEDULED, UH, FROM DIRECTOR GOING TO KING, UH, AT SIX 50 JUST BEFORE WE START THE REGULAR MEETING.
SO, UM, WE'LL START RIGHT OFF WITH KEN.
SO I KNOW IT SAID ON THE AGENDA ENGINEERING UPDATES, BUT, UH, THIS UPDATE IS GONNA BE ABOUT THE LED CONVERSION PROJECT, WHERE WE ARE, UM, WHERE WE'RE GOING, WHAT WE NEED TO DO, EXCEPT THE OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE DOING THEIR PROCESS WITH IT.
SO, UH, AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'VE GOT ABOUT 50, 150 LIKES IN IN THE TOWN.
46 OF THEM, 4,600 OF THEM ARE CONVERTED RIGHT NOW.
UH, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE MORE WEEKS TO GET EVERYTHING CONVERTED OVER, AND THEN, UH, THERE'LL BE A COUPLE WEEKS OF INSPECTION AFTER THAT, BEFORE THAT CONTRACT IS CLOSED OUT.
SO WE'RE LOOKING PROBABLY LIKE LATE AUGUST THAT'LL BE FINISHED UP FOR THE CONVERSION.
SO PART OF THE CONVERSION PROJECT, AND THIS IS TAMMY'S KIND OF THE LEAD ON THIS PROJECT THAT I'M JUST WING IN RIGHT NOW.
SO WE HAVE A LOT OF PARTICULARS, BUT DURING THE CONVERSION PROJECT, UH, THERE'S A PROVISION IN THE CONTRACT THAT THEY WILL DO ONGOING MAINTENANCE ITEMS, BUMPS, YOU KNOW, UH, VEHICLE STRIKES, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS WHILE THEY'RE, THEY'RE ON SITE AND ADDITIONAL PROBABLE COST.
OF COURSE, WHEN THAT ENDS, WHEN THE CONTRACT ENDS, THEY'RE DONE.
WE HAVE NO PROVISION FOR MAINTENANCE OR, OR, UH, REPAIRS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, OR EVEN INVESTIGATION.
SO PRIOR TO THIS, UM, I HAD REACHED OUT TO THE TOWN OF AMHERST TO SEE WHAT, WHAT THEY WERE DOING, 'CAUSE THEY'RE KIND OF PARALLELING US RIGHT NOW.
AND THEY HAD REACHED OUT TO WAN WHO IS THROUGH THE PROCESS AND ALREADY WORKING UNDER A, UH, SUBCONTRACTOR SERVICE AGREEMENT.
SO THEY SHARED SOME OF THE INFORMATION, UH, AND COSTS OF WHAT THEY WERE GOING THROUGH.
I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, HOW RELEVANT THEY ARE RIGHT NOW TO, YOU KNOW, A WHOLE DIFFERENT BIDDING ENVIRONMENT AND THAT TYPE OF THING.
BUT, UM, THEY FIGURE ON AVERAGE THEY'RE PAYING, THIS TOWN OF WINE IS PAYING ABOUT $25,000 A MONTH, MAINTAINS OVER 6,000.
SO IT'S, WITH SOME OTHER PROVISIONS THEY HAVE ON, THEY'RE PAYING A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR IN SERVICE DOCTOR.
IT'S KIND OF, SO I, I, I HAVE, I DON'T KNOW COMPLETELY WHAT MICHAEL WAS OFFERING, BUT I, I THINK IT WAS AROUND THERE, IT WAS KIND OF ACCESSIBLE.
SO WHEN I TALKED WITH, UH, ONE OF THE ENGINEERS AT AMHERST ABOUT IS, IS MAYBE A JOINT AGREEMENT OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT, WE WERE GONNA KIND OF COMPARE NOTES AS WE MOVED THROUGH THE PROJECTS AND IT WAS FELT WITH, YOU KNOW, TEMPERATURE MORE WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO, WHERE OUR FINANCIALS WERE.
AND THE COST OF OUR PROJECT IS KIND OF, UH, GONE OVER BY A BILLION PLUS DOLLARS.
SO SOME OF THE SAVINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA SEE IN THE ENERGY COSTS ARE GONNA BE KIND OF SOAKED UP BY THE SERVICE CONTRACT AND POTENTIAL COST, THE PROJECT
SO WHAT I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON, UM, I GOT THE, I GOT THE BIG PACKAGE FROM TOWANDA, WHICH THEY DID.
THEY'RE, UM, I, I WANTED TO MAKE SOME TWEAKS TO IT AS FAR AS ADDRESSING CALL OUT PROCEDURES AND INVESTIGATORS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO I, KEVIN AND I KIND OF PUT TOGETHER OUR HEADS OF PUT TOGETHER A PRELIMINARY BIG PACKAGE,
SO, UH, I DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPABILITY IN HOUSE CURRENTLY OR FORESEEABLE FUTURE, BUT COMES THE END OF AUGUST.
WE WON'T HAVE ANY WAY, LIKE A CAR HITS A POLE.
WE HAVE TO LIKE CALL AN EMERGENCY CONTRACTOR AND COME AND ADDRESS IT.
SO, SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WANTED TO BRIEF THE BOARD ON.
I, I PRETTY SURE YOU GUYS WEREN'T AWARE OF THIS IS ALL KIND OF IN NEWER DEVELOPMENT.
SO WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, TALKED ABOUT WENT TO FINANCE, TO FINANCE, ABOUT THEM MEETING AS MORE INFORMATION COMES OBVIOUSLY SHARE.
JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW WHERE ENGINEERING WAS WITH THAT PROJECT THROUGH THAT PRETTY, IF THERE'S ANY, ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT HERE, WE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
I'VE GOT SOME BRIEFINGS FOR, UH, SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS.
I DO HAVE BETTER REPORT TIME, IF THAT'S COOL.
UH, I'M HERE TONIGHT TO ASK, UM, TO BOARD TO WE TRANSFER SOME, UH, SOME
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MONIES IN BACK INTO MY OVERTIME BUDGET.UM, I'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF LANDSCAPING, UH, FROM THE STORM AND STARTED TO GET BEHIND ON ALL THE OTHER JOBS.
UM, I SAT DOWN WITH, UH, PAT AND KIM, UM, AND, UH, BETH, THANK YOU FOR COMING.
UM, JUST TO GET TO THAT FEEL, IF IT'S AN IDEA OF WHAT I CAN DO, WHAT I CAN, UM, WE'RE ABOUT 70 TO 75% DONE WITH THE LANDSCAPING OF THE TOWN.
UM, SO FAR I'VE TRANSFERRED $20,000 FROM, UH, DIFFERENT FUNDS INTO, UH, THE OVERTIME BUDGET.
UM, AND WE, WE'VE WENT THROUGH THAT ALREADY.
UM, SINCE, SINCE MARCH TO JULY I'VE RECEIVED, UM, 585 COMPLAINTS ON, ON CLOUD MANAGER.
UM, SO I'VE BEEN CONCENTRATING ON AT LEAST ONE TO TWO CREWS A DAY GOING OUT JUST TO DO LANDSCAPING, TRYING TO GET IT DONE.
UM, BUT THE FOLLOWING BEHIND ON ALL OUR
UM, ON ANY GIVEN DAY, UM, I'VE BEEN AVERAGING ABOUT NINE, NINE TO 10 GUYS OFF.
I'M TREAT PATIENT, PERSONAL, SICK, OR CONTACT.
SO IT'S PUTTING, PUTTING A BURDEN ON ON THE GUYS THAT ARE COMING IN TRYING TO GET, TRYING TO GET THE LANDSCAPING DONE.
UM, WITH, WITH, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE PUTTING EVERYTHING ELSE ON HOLD.
OUR NORMAL STUFF LIKE THIS WEEK WE'RE MILLING THURSDAY AND FRIDAY AND THEN ALL NEXT WEEK PAVING.
SO WE'RE GONNA BE EXTREMELY BUSY.
THAT TAKES, UM, A PAVING CREW TAKES BETWEEN EIGHT TO 10 GUYS TO DO, UM, MILLING CREW IS GONNA TAKE AT LEAST, AT LEAST EIGHT TO 10 GUYS 'CAUSE WE'RE HAVING SOME ISSUES GETTING TRUCKS FROM ARMS AND STUFF AND JUST GET TRUCKS FREE PEOPLE TO COME AND GET THE FREE BUILDINGS.
SO, UM, SO WE'RE GONNA BE CONCENTRATING ON THAT COUPLE THURSDAY AND FRIDAY.
UM, SO FAR, SO FAR THIS YEAR WE HAVE PUT IN 723 MAN HOURS JUST IN OVERTIME FOR THE STORE JUST TO FIX THE DAMAGE FROM THE STORE.
AND THAT'S JUST PRETTY MUCH LANDSCAPING AND THE STUFF THAT WE CAN DO.
UM, EVERYTHING ELSE WE, WE'VE CONTRACTED OUT, WE'VE, UM, CONTRACTED THE, UM, CURBS OUT AND THE, UH, THE GUARD RAIL BECAUSE WE CAN DOWN OUR STOVE.
SO, UH, SO FAR THIS YEAR I'VE SPENT ABOUT $35,000 JUST IN TOP SOIL, JUST
UM, I PUT A LITTLE EXTRA MONEY IN THERE TOO FOR SUMMER HELP TO TRY TO GET SOME EXTRA SUMMER HELP.
WE TRY TO HELP WITH THE, UM, WITH ALL THE JOBS.
UM, BUT THE SUMMER HELP CAN'T STAY PAST THREE O'CLOCK.
AND A LOT OF THESE KIDS, SOME OF THESE KIDS ARE DROPPING OFF BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING BACK TO SCHOOL ALREADY OR, UM, SO, UM, SO WE, WE, WE AGING ABOUT SIX, SIX TO EIGHT.
SOME OF 'EM ARE DROPPING OFF GOING BACK TO SCHOOL.
UM, WE, UH, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE ABOUT 75% DONE.
UH, I WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST KEEP ONE CREW, AT LEAST ONE CREW CONCENTRATED ON OVERTIME DURING THE DAY.
AND THEN OVERTIME KEEPING GOING.
I ONLY WANNA DO IT THROUGH THREE HOURS A DAY, UH, FIVE DAYS A WEEK.
UM, DUE TO THE MONEYS, MONEYS BECAUSE THE OVERTIME, UM, FOR ONE CREW TO STAY, WE NEED FOUR PEOPLE PLUS A CREW LEADER AND A FOREMAN AND A MECHANIC TO STAY PUTTING THE CONTRACT.
AND THAT'S ABOUT $10,800 OF PAY.
UM, SO FAR OR ABOUT 2020, WE'VE HAD, UM, ABOUT $60,350 IN OVERTIME.
21 WE'VE DONE $162,261 IN 2 22.
UM, SO FAR OUR TWO, UH, TWO DAYS FROM THE CHRISTMAS STORM WE'VE BEEN PUT IN THE FEVER SO FAR.
THEY HAD TO TAKE THE, THE BEST TWO DAYS.
WE'VE, UH, WE FIGURED OUT IT'S GONNA BE $52,560, GONNA GET 75% REIMBURSED FROM THAT.
UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE GOING TO GET REIMBURSED FROM ALL STORM DAMAGE AND OVERTIME TO GET BACK.
WE WERE, UH, FOR FEMA WE GET REIMBURSED 75%.
SO I FIGURED WE'RE GONNA NEED AT LEAST, UH, 125,000 IN THERE TO CARRY UNTIL JANUARY.
OBVIOUSLY THE BUDGET STARTS IN JANUARY 1ST.
WHAT WAS THAT AMOUNT? SORRY? 125.
WHAT'S YOUR OVERTIME BUDGET FOR 2023? 135,000.
AND THEN WHAT THE, CAN YOU GO OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS OF, OF OVERTIME AGAIN? YEAH, I DID, UH, YEAH, I DID THE LAST THREE YEARS, UH, FROM NOVEMBER TO JANUARY.
I FIGURED, 'CAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S OUR BUSY TIME.
JUST BEFORE THE BUDGET KICKS IN, UH, 2027, UH, 21 SPENT 76 AND 2262 6.
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IS THAT YOUR, THAT'S YOUR OVERTIME FOR THE FULL YEAR? IT'S STILL THE SYSTEM.I BROKE IT DOWN JUST BECAUSE I'M WORRIED ABOUT FROM NOVEMBER TO JANUARY, HAVING ENOUGH MONEY, YOU GAVE US SOME NUMBERS THAT WERE AROUND 60,160,000 TO 270,000.
THAT'S TOTAL FOR THE WHOLE YEAR.
I GIVE IT, I GIVE YOU NOVEMBER TO JANUARY.
SO I, I GUESS, I MEAN, MY, MY BIGGEST QUESTION IS FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO US AS IT HAPPENS RATHER THAN AFTER THE, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE SOME DEPARTMENTS THAT, UH, HAVE CONSISTENTLY SPENT OVER THEIR OVERTIME BUDGET AND THEN FIGURE IT OUT LATER.
AND I THINK IT'S EVIDENCED BY THE NUMBERS THAT YOU SHARED.
IF, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT AN AVERAGE OF CLOSE TO $200,000 A YEAR IN OVERTIME, THEN WE SHOULD BUDGET $200,000 A YEAR.
WELL THAT'S, THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS HAPPY THAT, THAT, UH, PAT AND KIM AND BETH HAVE DOWN.
SO I GOT MORE AND MORE FEEDBACK AND MORE
SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL.
SO, UM, SO YOUR BUDGET IS 1 35? THAT'S HOW, YES.
AND, AND WHERE ARE YOU CURRENTLY WITH UH, 1 1 68.
BUT YOU MOVED 20 ALREADY? YEAH, I MOVED 20 OUT OF THE YES.
AND YOU ANTICIPATE NEEDS FOR ANOTHER 1 25, WHICH BRING YOUR TOTAL OVERTIME BUDGET TO JUST UNDER 300,000 FOR SPLIT TWO PARTS? WELL I WAS GONNA PUT SOME OF THAT.
I WAS GONNA TAKE SOME OF THAT AND PUT IT IN SUMMER HELP.
UM, 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA LOOK IN THE FALL ABOUT, TOWARDS THE TEMPORARY SNOW PLOW DRIVERS.
SO I WAS GONNA HAVE NO MONEY IN THERE JUST, BUT THAT DID TAKE OFF THAT WE GONNA HAVE TO BE SOME START MONEY TO DO THAT.
SO WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING CLOSER TO TWO 50 THE TRUE NUMBER OF OVERTIME THAT YOU WOULD NEED FOR BUDGET YEAR 2023.
AND IS THAT, I MEAN, I KNOW THAT BUDGET TALKS ARE, WE'RE NOT THERE YET, BUT WE'RE CLOSE.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT FOR I'M GOING SIT DOWN.
THE PROBLEM IS, IS YOU CAN'T REALLY JUDGE THE STORMS NOW.
I MEAN, YOU SAID ONLY, ONLY ONE, ONE EVERY EIGHT YEARS AGO.
GUESS WHAT, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT POUNDED TWICE IN THE SAME YEAR.
SO IT'S HARD TO TO TO BUDGET FOR THAT.
BUT I JUST WANNA HAVE ALL THIS MONEY TO HAVE IT NOT BEING USED FOR THAT.
SO IT, IT JUST MAKES IT DIFFICULT.
I I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS CORRECTLY.
SO YOU SAID YOU PUT 723 MAN HOURS INTO LIKE LANDSCAPE RESTORATION.
JUST LANDSCAPE, YOU'RE LIKE 75% DONE.
SO YOU NEED ABOUT ANOTHER 250 HOURS ROUGHLY? WELL, ROUGHLY, YEAH.
WHEN DO YOU GUYS ANTICIPATE THAT'LL BE DONE IF YOU'RE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH ALL OF THAT? IF I, IF I CAN KEEP THE OVERTIME MOVING.
THEY WERE MOVING PRETTY FAST ON OVERTIME.
SO HOPEFULLY BY, I HOPING BY AUGUST WE CAN BE DONE SOMETIME IN AUGUST WE AVERAGING THREE HOURS A DAY, UH, FIVE DAYS.
UH, FIVE DAYS AND YOU KNOW, FOR 10, HONESTLY 10 DAYS TO GET PAID, PERIOD.
SO I'M ONLY GET THREE HOURS AND THEN, AND THEN I PROBABLY RUN INTO IS I HAVE LIKE, LIKE PAVING COMING UP, BILLY COMING UP THAT HAVE TO USE MATH.
SO IT'S GONNA BE GONNA BE SHUFFLING AROUND PEOPLE AND STUFF.
SO IS THERE A, JUST, IS THERE AN OPTION TO DO LIKE SATURDAYS FOR LANDSCAPE OR I COULD LIKE I COULD DO THAT.
AT HOW MANY TOTAL, UH, HOW MANY EMPLOYEES ARE THERE? NOT 31.
HOW MANY OF THOSE 31 ARE ACTIVELY RECEIVING OVERTIME? UM, WE HAVE, I BELIEVE WE HAVE TWO FOREMAN, TWO MECHANICS, 300 EQUIPMENT OPERATORS, NINE, UH, TRUCK DRIVERS, 15 LABORERS, WHICH A TOTAL OF 1 31 OUT OF ALL 'EM PROBABLY.
I, I WAS GETTING A GOOD FEEDBACK FROM EVERYBODY THERE.
WE HAD A SIGN UP SHEET IN THE MORNING, IT WAS ALWAYS FULL.
SO WE, WE ALWAYS, WE OVERTIME IS THERE, UM, EVERYBODY WAS TAKING UH, UM, UH, I DON'T WAS TAKING THEIR, THEIR, THEIR TURN OVERTIME.
SO ALL 31 ARE PARTICIPATING? YEAH.
WAS IT DISCUSSED? IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S SO HARD TO PREDICT WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN BETWEEN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER, AS YOU SAID.
WAS IT DISCUSSED THAT WE WOULD START, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH WHAT WE KNOW IS REAL REASONABLE NOW, BUT YOU KNOW, KIND OF EARMARK POTENTIALLY FOR ANOTHER DISBURSEMENT, SAY IN DECEMBER IF WE, IF WE HAD A STORM, IN OTHER WORDS, ALLOCATING SO MUCH OF THIS FUNDS THAT WE MAY NEVER NEED, UM, MIGHT BE, MIGHT BE EXCESSIVE.
UM, AS WE TALKED ABOUT IT, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO JUDGE THOUGH.
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THING, YOU KNOW, I CAN SAY YEAH, WE'RE GONNA RESTORE, BUT IF WE DON'T THEN FROM THE FINANCES, IS IT JUST A SENSE OF OF IT THEY DON'T USE IT.WE CAN JUST, IT GOES RIGHT BACK INTO COVER BACK SO IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, IF IT'S NOT NEEDED, IT JUST GOES BACK YEAH, IT GOES BACK, BACK INTO THE TOP.
I STILL WANNA RUN SHORT, THAT'S ALL.
AND WHEN I GET THE JOB DONE, UH, LIKE I SAID, 585 CALLS SINCE MARCH UNTIL JULY.
SO AS YESTERDAY, PEOPLE ARE STILL CONFIDENT THAT THE TOWN'S SO BIG.
I MEAN, THE TOWN IS A BIG TOWN AND YOU KNOW, IT'S 40 SQUARE MILES AND THERE'S A LOT OF ROADS THERE.
DO YOU GUYS HAVE THEM ISOLATED FROM THE NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER? YES.
IT WAS A PRETTY HELPFUL FUND BALANCE ON THE HIGHWAY ACCOUNT, RIGHT? YES.
1.2 MILLION RIGHT NOW AT THE END OF 2022.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR
UH, WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS, YOU KNOW, TO THE FOREFRONT NOW IN ADVANCE AND, AND THE WHOLE HIGHWAY.
THIS IS A VERY UNIQUE SITUATION.
I MEAN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ROADS, I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, NEARLY ALMOST EVERY ROAD STREET TO ONE SENSE OR ANOTHER NEEDED THE, THIS EXTRA REPAIR WORK.
UM, WHICH IS JUST A, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST FROM MY KNOWLEDGE, IT MIGHT BE THE, UH, FIRST TIME, YOU KNOW, UH, WE'VE EVER HAD QUITE TO THIS EXTENT.
SO TO KNOW THAT THESE NUMBERS ARE GONNA BE ON THE HIGHER SIDE OF WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE LAST FEW YEARS IS NOT SURPRISING.
OBVIOUSLY, HOPEFULLY WE CAN KEEP IT, YOU KNOW, TO THE LOW SIDE OF THE HIGH SIDE.
UH, BUT WE, YOU KNOW, CAN APPRECIATE WHAT, WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN FACED WITH AND APPRECIATE YOUR, FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR LIKENESS AND, AND, UH, HOW THE FINANCES NEED TO BE DONE.
JUST, UM, WE'RE JUST TRYING, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET IT DONE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I KNOW PEOPLE ARE CALLING, PEOPLE ARE BE IMPATIENT WITH ME AND I'M JUST TRYING TO GET, GET IT BEHIND US AND MOVE ON.
BUT, SO I, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK OUT THERE.
SO, SO WE STILL HAVE, WE STILL HAVE PATCH DO, UM, WE JUST GOT SOME DOGS ZONE ONE, WE HAVE FOUR ZONES, SO WE HAVE TO PATCH STILL.
SO I NEED A CREW THAT'S FIVE, SIX GUYS.
UM, LIKE I SAID, PAVING P'S GONNA BE AT LEAST EIGHT GUYS.
UM, MILLION MILL IS GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, SIX, SIX TO EIGHT GUYS THAT HAVE THE FLAGGERS AND EVERYTHING ELSE OUT THERE.
UM, AND WE'VE BEEN RUSH, OUR RUSH IS NEVER GONNA END.
UM, I, I SENT OUT TWO CREWS ON A DAILY BASIS, BRUSH TRUCKS, AND THEN FOLLOW UP WITH THE, THE, UH, THE GRAPPL STRUCTURES, THE PAPER PILES.
THAT DOESN'T, THAT DOESN'T SLOW DOWN.
SO ANYTHING ELSE FOR SUPERINTENDENT UNITS? ALRIGHT, I THANK YOU FOR THE BACKGROUND.
WE'RE CERTAINLY, MY OFFICE IS GETTING PLENTY OF CALLS YEP.
AND I, I REMIND OUR RESIDENTS TO BE PATIENT AND SOMEBODY'S GONNA HAVE TO BE LAST.
SOME HOUSE IS GONNA BE THE LAST ONE THAT I'M STILL TOLD TO TELL 'EM THAT.
SO WE'RE GETTING EVERYBODY AS FAST AS WE CAN.
UM, SO THANK YOU AND THANK YOU STAFF FOR, LIKE I SAID, THEY, THEY'RE, THERE'S NO SLACKING THERE.
LIKE WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY WAIT FOR OVERTIME, I TOLD 'EM, YOU'RE HERE TO WORK, LET'S GO, LET'S GET THIS THINGS DONE.
YOU KNOW, SO THEY'VE BEEN DOING PRETTY GOOD.
SO THEY, THEY MADE A GOOD, THEY MADE A GOOD MARK ON EVERYTHING.
SO, UH, WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM MS. GORMAN KING COMING UP AT SIX 50.
JUST NOTE FOR THE AGENDA, WE HAVE 1, 2, 3, 4 PUBLIC HEARINGS, I BELIEVE ON THE AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING.
AND I THINK HALF OF THEM AT LEAST WILL BE RATHER WELL ATTENDED BY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
SO THINGS ARE PROBABLY GONNA GET BUSY DOWN HERE IN AN EFFORT TO EXPEDITE THE AGENDA AND, UH, MAXIMIZE OUR SPACE DOWN HERE AND PROPOSE MOVING RESOLUTIONS 10, 11, AND 12, WHICH ARE NEW HIRES AND POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHICH TYPICALLY COME, UH, TO, TO, UH, WATCH THEIR RESOLUTION AS WELL AS BRING FRIENDS AND FAMILY TO CELEBRATE.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE THOSE AHEAD OF, UH, THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
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GET RIGHT TO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.WE CAN DO ALL THOSE THREE AT ONCE, HAVE A PICTURE AND, UH, WE CAN GO IN WITH THE REST OF THE AGENDA.
UM, SO, UH, IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE FROM THE BOARD, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO, UH, DISCUSS A PERSONNEL MATTER AND, AND LITIGATION.
SECOND, ALL FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
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WE ARE GOING TO WAIT UNTIL SEVEN O'CLOCK TO ADDRESS.UH, BUT WE DID HAVE A RECREATION DIRECTOR, JILL GORMAN KING, SCHEDULED TO MAKE A PRESENTATION TO THE TOWN BOARD DURING THE WORK SESSION, WHICH WE'VE SINCE DURING THE WORK SESSION.
SO WE'RE GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC MEETING IN JUST A A MINUTE HERE.
AND WE'LL START WITH THE REPORT FROM MS. GORDON KING.
UH, AND THEN WE WILL GO ON TO THE BUSINESS OF THE AGENDA, UH, AND THE TOWN BOARD MEETING.
SO I JUST WANT TO GO THROUGH THAT AGAIN.
WE HAVE, UH, THREE NEW HIRES IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WE'RE GONNA MOVE THEM TO THE TOP OF THE AGENDA BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE SOME FOLKS THAT ARE HERE, UH, TO HELP CELEBRATE THOSE NEW HIRES.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU WON'T HURT OUR FEELINGS, YOU'LL LEAVE.
AFTER THAT HAPPENS, THEN WE WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE AGENDA.
ONCE WE CONCLUDE THE AGENDA, WE WILL THEN MOVE ON TO PUBLIC EXPRESSION.
THESE ARE THE RULES FOR PUBLIC EXPRESSION.
WE ASK THAT IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, YOU COME UP TO THE FRONT OF THE ROOM.
WE HAVE A PODIUM HERE FOR YOU TO USE IF YOU'D LIKE.
WE ASK THAT YOU KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES AT THE THREE MINUTE MARK.
WE WILL GIVE YOU A COURTESY REMINDER.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN STOP IMMEDIATELY, THAT MEANS IT'S TIME TO WRAP IT UP.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS A CHANCE TO SHARE WHAT THEY CAME HERE TO SHARE YOUR TIME.
YOUR THREE MINUTES IS NON-TRANSFERABLE.
THAT MEANS IF YOU SIGN UP TO SPEAK AND YOU CHOOSE NOT TO SPEAK, YOU CANNOT GIVE YOUR THREE MINUTES TO ANOTHER SPEAKER.
THESE ARE SIMPLY THE RULES OF THE HAMBURG TOM BOARD MEETING.
AND WE'VE INCORPORATED THESE RULES.
NOW THAT WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE ATTENDING OUR TOM BOARD MEETINGS AFTER PUBLIC EXPRESSION, THE WE WILL HAVE REPORTS FROM DEPARTMENT HEADS.
AFTER THE DEPARTMENT HEADS GIVE THEIR REPORTS, WE'LL HAVE REPORTS FROM THE BOARD.
ONCE PUBLIC EXPRESSION IS CLOSED, IT'S CLOSED.
THERE WILL NOT BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS MEETING ISN'T TO HAVE A BACK AND FORTH CONVERSATION BETWEEN THE BOARD AND THE RESIDENTS.
THERE'S PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT IN BETWEEN MEETINGS.
SO, UM, LET'S, UH, START WITH THE ROLL CALL SUPERVISOR.
COUNCIL MEMBER CONLEY PRESENT.
COUNCIL MEMBER UFFORD PRESENT.
COUNCIL MEMBER FARRELL LORENZ.
AND LET'S BEGIN WITH THE PLEDGE.
THE FLAG FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, REPUBLIC ALL NATION, UNDER LIBERTY JUSTICE FOR ALL.
ALRIGHT, MS. IF YOU COULD, UH, SHARE YOUR REPORT.
AND I HAD ASKED, UH, DIRECTOR HENRY KING TO JUST GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF AN UPDATE ABOUT OUR TOWN YOUTH REC AND SENIOR SERVICES PROGRAMS BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING INTO THE HIGH MONTHS OF, OF SUMMER AND YOU HAVE A LOT GOING ON.
SO, YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR GIVING ME THE TIME.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO START WITH A COUPLE OF OUR PROGRAMS THAT ARE NEW.
OUR RECREATION ON THE GO PROGRAM HAS BEEN FANTASTIC.
WE'VE BEEN OPERATING FOR ABOUT A WEEK AND A HALF.
UM, WE'VE ALREADY SERVICED OVER 200 YOUTH.
UM, WE HAVE ABOUT 13 TO 15 PLAYGROUNDS THAT WE'RE SERVICING.
SOME ARE ON A REGULAR SCHEDULE, OTHER ONES ARE POP-UP PLAYGROUNDS.
WE ARE ACTUALLY RECEIVING WORD FROM NUMEROUS NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, IF THEY DO CONTACT US, WE WILL ACTUALLY RUN A POPUP PLAYGROUND IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, TO SEE, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH, UM, HOW MANY PEOPLE WE HAVE ATTEND, HOW MUCH INTEREST WE HAVE.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO REACH OUT TO ALL 40 PLUS PLAYGROUNDS, UM, AND SEE, YOU KNOW, WHO UTILIZES WHAT AND WHERE WE CAN MEET THE NEEDS, UH, THE BEST AND THE MOST.
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UM, ON TOP OF THAT, WE ARE ALSO SERVING LUNCH AT THE OSBORNE PLAYGROUND, WHICH WE SERVICE EVERY DAY.WE'VE SERVED ABOUT ROUGHLY 140 LUNCHES WITHIN THE FIRST WEEK, UH, THAT THE PROGRAM HAS RUN ABOUT 30 A DAY.
UM, AND IT KEEPS GETTING MORE AND MORE EACH DAY.
WE'RE ALSO, UH, PUTTING IN NEW PICKLEBALL COURTS.
WE HAVE THREE, UH, COURTS THAT ARE GONNA BE FULL-TIME, UH, THAT ARE GONNA BE AVAILABLE ALL SUMMER.
UM, THOSE ARE AT BEN'S PLAYGROUND, CARNEGIE AND OSBORN.
UM, WELL ACTUALLY I SHOULD SAY WE HAVE, UH, FOUR POPUPS.
'CAUSE WE HAVE THREE AT ROUNDTREE, UM, THAT WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE.
AND THEN ONE AT LAUREN PLAYGROUND AS WELL.
AND WE'VE ALSO RECEIVED WORD FROM INDIVIDUALS WHO WANT TENNIS LINES, BASKETBALL LINES, AND MORE PICKLEBALL LINES.
SO AGAIN, IF THE, UM, PUBLIC DOES REACH OUT TO US, WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO FACILITATE THOSE NEEDS AND EVALUATE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE USAGE OF THE PLAYGROUND, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE OUR GOLF COURSE, WHICH WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK TO RECENTLY, WHICH HAS BEEN VERY WELL RECEIVED.
UM, WE JUST FINISHED OUR PAVING PROJECT, WHICH HAS, UH, MANAGE, WHICH HAS BEAUTIFIED IT AS WELL AS, UH, ENHANCE THE SAFETY, UM, AND WELLBEING OF THE PLAYERS.
UM, WE HAVE ALSO DONE OUR LANDSCAPING AND WE HAVE A BRAND NEW SIGN AT THE GOLF COURSE.
UM, WE HAVE OUR DAY CAMP, WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH FULL EVERY SINGLE WEEK.
WE HAVE ABOUT A 40 TO 50 PERSON WAIT LIST.
UM, WE'VE ENHANCED THE PROGRAMMING THERE.
WE BROUGHT IN A BEHAVIORAL SPECIALIST, UM, WHO WAS HELPING KIDS, OBVIOUSLY SINCE COVID, UM, AND EVERYTHING, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT HAVE COME TO CAMP.
UM, KIDS HAVE COUNSELORS WHEN THEY GO TO SCHOOL, THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING AT CAMP, SO WE FELT THAT THIS WAS A SUPPORT THAT THEY REALLY NEEDED.
UM, SO WE BROUGHT THAT INTO PLAY.
WE HAVE BROUGHT IN NEW AND ENHANCED PROGRAMMING, WELLNESS PROGRAMMING, YOGA, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT BREATHING TECHNIQUES TO HELP THEM WITH DIFFERENT STRESSORS IN LIFE AS WELL AS SPORTS SAMPLING.
UM, YOU KNOW, SPORTS OBVIOUSLY HAVE GOTTEN A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPETITIVE, SO THE KIDS THAT ARE JUST WANTING TO TRY THINGS OUT AND MIGHT NOT BE AS GOOD HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO DO THAT.
SO WE KIND OF LET THEM SAMPLE DIFFERENT THINGS AT CAMP.
UM, TRY IT AND SEE IF THEY'D LIKE TO CONTINUE WITH IT AND CONTINUE WITH OUR PROGRAMS. UM, SOME OTHER THINGS WE HAVE, WE HAVE BROUGHT BACK, UM, AN ENTERTAINMENT SERIES TO THE TOWN PARKS AS WELL.
WE HAVE MOVIE NIGHTS, WE HAVE CONCERTS, WE'VE HAD MAGICIANS.
WE HAVE A PUPPET SHOW COMING OUT IF ANYONE'S INTERESTED IN PUPPETS.
UM, AND WE'RE TRYING TO HIT ALL DIFFERENT PARKS.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE ABOUT SEVEN PARKS THAT WE'VE HIT.
UM, AS SOON AS WE FIND OUT, UM, FUNDING WISE WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO, WE'RE GONNA HIT EVEN MORE PARKS, UM, JUST TO GET PEOPLE BACK IN, YOU KNOW, GET PEOPLE TO KIND OF INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER AND JUST DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES THAT THEY CAN SHARE.
UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU, YOU KNOW, WE BROUGHT BACK SOME OF THE OLD PROGRAMMING WITH THE PLAYGROUNDS AT THE PARK.
WE BROUGHT IN SOME NEW PROGRAMMING, UM, YOU KNOW, THE STAFF, WE'VE DONE THAT AS WELL AS CONTINUE EVERYTHING LIKE, YOU KNOW, MANAGING THE BEACH, MANAGING THE GOLF COURSE, DAY CAMP, EVERYTHING.
SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED, WE'RE VERY THANKFUL FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT AND WE JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A QUICK REPORT OF EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING.
IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, I JUST HAVE A COMMENT.
UH, YOU GUYS ARE DOING A FANTASTIC JOB.
THANK EVERYTHING THAT I'M SEEING.
THANKS FOR INCLUDING US ON INVITES.
UH, ALSO SOCIAL MEDIA'S FANTASTIC.
SO, UM, AND AS A PARENT, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU ALL AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
AND THIS IS SOMEWHAT RELATED TO YOUR SUMMER PROGRAMMING AND I HAD INTENDED TO READ THIS AT THE LAST TOWNS BOARD MEETING, BUT WE HAD A LOT THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.
SO I DID READ THIS AT A RECENT DEPARTMENT ED MEETING.
UM, BUT CERTAINLY, UH, GREAT KUDOS TO YOUR STAFF AS WELL AS STAFF AT
THIS IS A LETTER THAT WAS WRITTEN TO ME BY BRIAN DAVIS, WHO'S THE COACH FOR THE SOUTH THOMAS CATHOLIC VARSITY GIRLS SOFTBALL TEAM.
AND HE TOOK THE TIME TO SEND AN EMAIL TO, TO MY OFFICE, UH, AS WELL AS YOURS AND DIRECTOR RIVERA'S OFFICE TO COMMEND US FOR THE CONDITION OF THE FIELDS AT ORCHARD ACRES AND PARKER ROAD.
HE'S ALSO A TRAVEL TEAM COACH.
HE'S SEEN MANY FIELDS THROUGHOUT THE YEARS AND IS A LIFELONG HAMBURG RESIDENCE.
UM, YOUR STAFF, MR. RIVERA'S STAFF, MADE, UH, A SEASON POSSIBLE FOR THE DIOCESAN SOFTBALL TEAMS TO CONDUCT THEIR SEASON THIS YEAR.
ORCHARD ACRES WAS THE LOCATION FOR MOST OF THEIR GAMES, AND THE FIELD CONDITIONS WERE SECOND TO NONE.
HE WENT ON TO SAY, I'M SURE THERE ARE MANY NAMES THAT I WILL BE MISSING.
HOWEVER, I WANNA MENTION THE ONES I DO KNOW, JOHN ZOGA, PAT RYAN, JOHN MCCORMICK, JACOB ARTIO, AND MR. ARTIO.
UH, WE'RE CHALLENGED WITH A RAINY MAY AND A NOT BETTER.
JUNE MOOREFIELD WERE GROOMED AND STRIPED AS WELL AS THE BEST FIELDS
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I'VE SEEN AS A COACH.THE TOWN OF HAMBURG EMPLOYEES TREATED THE FIELDS AS IF THEIR SONS AND DAUGHTERS WERE PLAYING THERE THAT EVENING AT THE TOWN.
MOOREFIELD CONDITIONS AND AVAILABILITY FOR USING SEEM TO BE LACKING IN SOME MUNICIPALITIES.
THE TOWN OF HAMBURG STEPPED UP AND DELIVERED FOR PLAYERS.
AND THANK YOU TO NATE AND YOUR TEAM AS WELL.
AS I MENTIONED IN THE WORK SESSION, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF FOLKS HERE AND, UH, WE DO WANT TO START OUT BY CELEBRATING THE NEW HIRES IN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND AGAIN, IF YOU CHOOSE TO LEAVE AFTER THAT, GO HAVE A CELEBRATORY BEVERAGE THAT'LL OPEN UP A LITTLE BIT OF ROOM FOR FOLKS THAT REMAIN FOR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
UM, SO LET'S START WITH NUMBER 10.
BE IT RESOLVED AT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVES THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE CHIEF OF POLICE AND HIRING GARRETT HELLMAN TO THE POSITION OF POLICE OFFICER PROBATIONARY EFFECTIVE JULY 23RD, 2023.
THIS APPOINTMENT IS SUBJECT TO ALL THREE CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO PHYSICAL, PSYCHOLOGICAL, AND POLYGRAPH TESTING.
THE CANDIDATE IS ON THE POLICE OFFICER EXAM LIST NUMBER 67 DASH 7 29.
SALARY IS 27 83 PER HOUR AND FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT B THREE 20.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER HOKE AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CURU.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
OPPOSE ABSTENTIONS CARRIED CHIEF, SHOULD WE DO ALL THREE? YES.
THE RESULT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVES THE RECOMMENDATION, THE CHIEF OF POLICE IN HIRING SEAN CARNA TO THE POSITION OF POLICE OFFICER PROBATIONARY IN FACT OF JULY 23RD, 2023.
THIS APPOINTMENT IS SUBJECT TO ALL PRECONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO PHYSICAL, PSYCHOLOGICAL POLYGRAPH TESTING.
THE CANDIDATE IS ON THE POLICE OFFICER EXAM LIST NUMBER 67 DASH 7 29, SALARIES 27 83 PER HOUR AND FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT B 3 1 2 0 0 0.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER HOKE AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CARMAN.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING A, A AYE.
OPPOSED AB EXTENSIONS CARRIED THE RESULT THE TOM BOARD APPROVES A RECOMMENDATION, THE CHIEF OF POLICE IN HIRING ALEX MONACO TO THE POSITION OF POLICE OFFICER PROBATIONARY EFFECTIVE JULY 23RD, 2023.
THIS APPOINTMENT IS SUBJECT TO ALL THREE CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO PHYSICAL, PSYCHOLOGICAL, AND POLYGRAPH TESTING.
AND THE CANDIDATES ON THE POLICE OFFICER EXAM LIST NUMBER 67 DASH 7 29 SALARY IS 27 3 PER HOUR AND FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT B 3 1 2 0 1 0 0.
SO SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER HO.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER, FAR WILL NONE.
SO IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY THAT SAYING AYE.
OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS CARRIED THOSE THREE, RIGHT? YES.
UH, NOW IF OUR NEW OFFICERS COULD PLEASE COME TO THE FRONT OF THE ROOM AND WE'LL HAVE A PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD AND HERE WILL TAKE A PICTURE.
AND FOLKS, IT'S ALWAYS VERY EXCITING WHEN WE HIRE AND ADD A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER TO OUR TEAM.
IT'S ESPECIALLY EXCITING WHEN WE HAVE THREE CANDIDATES TO CHOOSE FROM.
I WANNA COMMEND THE CHIEF AND HIS TEAM FOR SELECTING SOME VERY WELL QUALIFIED CANDIDATES.
AND WE'RE EXCITED TO WORK WITH THE CHIEF.
AND SO I DO WANNA THANK, UH, THE ENTIRE BOARD.
WERE AUTHORIZED AND SUPPORTING THE THREE HIRES.
UH, AFTER INTERVIEWING WE WERE ABLE TO FIND THREE EXCELLENT CANDIDATES.
GARRETT COMES TO US FROM SUNY TON.
HE'S ALREADY BEEN TO THE POLICE ACADEMY.
HE HAS SOME EXPERIENCE, SO HE'LL BE GOING RIGHT INTO OUR FIELD TRAINING PROGRAM.
UH, ALEX AND SEAN, THEY WILL BE ATTENDING THE POLICE ACADEMY IN, IN A WEEK.
AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, THAT WE ASK IN THE INTERVIEW IS, UH, WHY DO YOU WANNA BE A TOWN OF HAM POLICE OFFICER? AND EACH OF THESE, UH, MEN SAID THEY WANT TO HELP PEOPLE AND THAT
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THEY WANT TO HAVE, UH, OR THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.AND SO I SAY TO YOU, IF YOU REMEMBER THAT, YOU WILL HAVE A LONG, SUCCESSFUL, UH, POSITIVE CAREER AND IT'S GONNA BE THE CITIZENS THAT'LL BE THE RECIPIENTS OF THAT POSITIVE SERVICE THAT YOU GIVE.
SO CONGRATULATIONS TO GARRETT.
SO THAT'S GONNA BRING US TO PUBLIC HEARING FOR PROPOSED LOCAL LAW.
AND FOR PURPOSES OF EXPEDITING THE AGENDA, WE WILL READ THE PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE.
PLEASE TAKE NOTICE THAT THERE HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO THE TOM BOARD ON MAY 22ND, 2023, PURSUANT TO THE MUNICIPAL HOME RULE LAW, A PROPOSED LOCAL LAW TO BE KNOWN AS PROPOSED LOCAL LAW.
NUMBER 5 20 23 SAID LOCAL LAW PROVIDES THROUGH THE AMENDMENT OF LOCAL LAW NUMBER 10 19 86, CHAPTER TWO 8,000 ZONING AND PROVIDES SUBSTANTIALLY AS FOLLOWS, FOR THE ADOPTION OF AN AMENDMENT TO SET ZONING CODE FOR PROPERTIES LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF CAMP ROAD.
NEAR THE INTERSECTION WITH SOLES ROAD FROM M TWO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT TO C TWO GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, THE PROPERTIES ARE IDENTIFIED AS FOLLOWS, SBL NUMBERS 1 70 0 0 DASH THREE DASH 4 1 70 0 0 DASH THREE DASH 6 3 1 1 70 0 0 3 2 1 70 0 3 2 AND 1 70 0 0 DASH 30.
THEREFORE, PURSUANT TO THE STATUTES AND THE PROVISIONS OF THE MUNICIPAL HOME RULE OF LAW, THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF AMBER WILL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON JULY 17TH, 2023 AT 7:00 PM LOCAL TIME, AT WHICH TIME ALL INTERESTED PERSONS MAY BE HEARD.
NOW IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THE REZONINGS WEST OF CAMP ROAD NEAR SOLES ROAD FROM M TWO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO Z TWO GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD REGARDING THE PROJECT FOR AGAINST OR OTHERWISE? I GOT THE LETTER AND I DUNNO WHAT MEANS, EXPLAIN WHAT IT'S AND WHAT IT'S GONNA BE.
SO THIS IS REZONING, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO REZONE THOSE PARCELS IDENTIFIED BY THOSE SBL NUMBERS FROM M TWO, WHICH IS A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, UH, ZONING DISTRICT TO C TWO, WHICH HAS DIFFERENT RESTRICTIONS THAN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, WHY ARE THEY GONNA USE IT FOR, WHAT IS IT GONNA BE? SO THIS WOULD CHANGE THE CODE SO THAT ANY CURRENT OWNERS, PROSPECTIVE BUYERS FUTURE USES WOULD BE GOVERNED BY THAT, THAT ZONING IS THERE ALREADY A PLAN.
SO THERE'S A PROPOSAL TO REZONE THESE THREE PARCELS.
UH, AND OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN INDICATES WHAT THE APPLICABLE ZONING, WHAT THE APPLICABLE CODES ARE THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
THIS WOULD BE AMENDING THAT ZONING FROM A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USE TO C TWO, WHICH IS GENERAL COMMERCIAL.
AND THOSE USES ARE TYPICALLY RETAIL, PERHAPS RESTAURANTS.
IT'S A VERY COMMON ZONING DESIGNATION THROUGHOUT THE TOWN OF HAMBURG.
WHY THE NEED TO REZONING IT? SO, UM, JOSH AND ELISE, COULD YOU GUYS, UH, GIVE US, UH, SHED ANY LIGHT ON THESE REZONINGS? YES.
SO ON THESE PARCELS THAT VISOR MENTIONED, UM, THE PART OF THE FINDING AREAS TOWN, UM, ALPHA MISS OR THE ONES THAT SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED, UH, WEST SIDE
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SOS, UH, ARE GO, UM, THERE'S NO SPECIFIC, IT'S JUST AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMETHING DETAIL OR SOMETHING THAT IS MORE BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMUNITY THAN JUST PROPOSAL.THERE'S NO SET PLANS FOR PEOPLE TO DO.
SO AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT SHEET IS, UM, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT CONTACT INFORMATION.
PLEASE CALL IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME FROM THE CURRENT OWNERS TO REQUEST THAT.
ARE THE CURRENT OWNERS IN THE ROOM? NO.
SO THIS WAS DETERMINED BY OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH IS A PLAN THAT COMMUNITIES ARE GENERALLY ENCOURAGED TO, TO, UM, REDO EVERY 15 YEARS OR SO.
SO IT HAD BEEN QUITE SOME TIME SINCE OUR LAST COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE PREVIOUS TOWN BOARD AS WELL AS THIS TOWN BOARD, WENT TO GREAT LENGTHS TO TALK TO PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
IN THIS CASE, THE FOLKS AND BUSINESSES THAT LIVE ALONG CAMP ROAD MUST HAVE PROVIDED FEEDBACK TO THE TOWN THAT THEY WOULD PREFER TO MOVE AWAY FROM INDUSTRIAL USES AND MOVE TOWARDS MORE GENERAL COMMERCIAL RETAIL USES.
SO IT'S A DECISION BY THE PLANNING BOARD, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMMITTEE AND THIS BOARD TO CHANGE THE FLAVOR OF THAT PART OF TOWN.
THIS IS, I WOULD CONSIDER IT TO BE A DOWN ZONE FROM A USE THAT IS HEAVIER AS FAR AS TRAFFIC EMISSIONS NOISE TO A USE THAT'S MORE COMMON THROUGHOUT THE TOWN, MORE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING AND SO FORTH.
JOSH, IF THE RESIDENTS ARE ACTUALLY ANNALISE, IF THE RESIDENTS ARE INTERESTED, COULD THEY GET A LIST FROM YOU OF THE APPLICABLE THINGS THAT WOULD CURRENTLY BE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST TRYING TO PULL UP, WAS THE, UM, CURRENT BUSINESSES THAT COULD GO IN AN M TWO VERSUS THE CURRENT BUSINESSES THAT COULD GO INTO A C TWO.
I THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY, WOULD THAT HELP ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS TO KNOW LIKE WHAT YOU COULD CURRENTLY PUT IN THERE AND THEN WHAT THE NEW ZONING WOULD HAVE? YEAH, IT'S OH, FOR JOSH.
I MEAN, YOU CAN FIND IT ON THE ZONING AS A CODE PAGE, BUT SHE'LL BE ABLE TO HANDLE IT.
THANK YOU MR. ALRIGHT, JOSH, SO, SO YOU'RE SAYING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS IN EFFECT NOW? YEAH, BECAUSE I COULDN'T FIND IT ON YEAH.
THE WEBSITE THAT SWITCHED OVER.
SO IT IS IN EFFECT COMPREHENSIVE.
ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING? ALRIGHT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CONLEY.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THAT BRINGS US TO OUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING.
PLEASE TAKE NOTICE THAT THERE HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO THE TOWN BOARD ON MAY 22ND, 2023.
PURSUANT TO THE MUNICIPAL HOME RULE LAW, A PROPOSED LOCAL LAW KNOWN TO BE KNOWN AS PROPOSED LOCAL LAW NUMBER 6 20 23 SET LOCAL LAW PROVIDES FOR THE AMENDMENT OF LOCAL LAW.
NUMBER 10 19 86, CHAPTER TWO 80 ENTITLED ZONING AND PROVIDES SUBSTANTIALLY AS FOLLOWS, FOR THE ADOPTION OF AN AMENDMENT TO SAID ZONING CODE FOR PROPERTIES LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE RAILROAD NEAR HE ROAD AND PLEASANT AVENUE FROM M TWO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO RA RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT, THE PROPERTIES ARE IDENTIFIED AS FOLLOWS, SBL NUMBERS 180 1 0.00 DASH ONE DASH FIVE ONE AND 180 1 0 1 5 12.
THEREFORE, PURSUANT TO THE STATUTES IN PROVISIONS OF THE INITIAL HOME RULE LAW, THE TOWN BOARD AT THE TOWN OF HAMBURG WILL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON JULY 17TH, 2023 AT 7:00 PM LOCAL TIME, AT WHICH TIME ALL INTERESTED PERSONS MAY BE HEARD.
AGAIN, THIS IS A REZONING FROM M TWO, WHICH IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO RA, WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL
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DISTRICT.NOW, THE RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT, UM, ALLOWS, AS THE NAME WOULD SUGGEST FOR RESIDENTIAL AND AGRICULTURAL USES, IT REQUIRES A SIGNIFICANT LOT SIZE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, UPWARDS OF TWO ACRES.
IT'S, IT'S BEEN TWO SINCE, SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.
SO, UM, IS ANY, WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS? AGAIN, THIS IS FOR PARCELS OVER BY HALTER ROAD EAST TO THE RAILROAD FROM LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL.
WE HAVE GAS, BUT THE OTHER PEOPLE ARE ON FO.
DOES THAT MEAN YOU'RE GONNA PUT SEWERS ON PLEASANT AVENUE OR ON SEPARATE RIGHT NOW? NO, YOU GONNA LEAVE IT THE WAY IT'S, WELL THIS, THIS, THIS REZONING WON'T IMPACT THE SEWERS.
WE DON'T HAVE SEWERS, WE HAVE SEPTIC.
THIS REZONING WON'T HAVE ANY, WON'T MAKE ANY DETERMINATION OR BRING ANY CHANGE OR IMPROVEMENT TO SEWERS OR SEPTIC OR ADDRESS THAT ISSUE.
UH, WITH THIS CHANGING TO RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL CLOSING AVENUE IN OF ITSELF TENDS TO BE PRETTY BUSY, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S AN ACCIDENT ROAD MONEY OR AN ACCIDENT ROAD TRAFFIC BUILDS UP FROM THERE AND PEOPLE DO NOT OBEY BY AND LARGE A 30 MILE AN HOUR SPEED THERE.
UM, MY CONCERN IS THE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC.
SECONDLY, THE SHARMA MEDICAL FACILITY ON THE CORNER OF PLEASANT AROUND 20, THE POSSIBILITY OF GETTING A LIGHT THERE BECAUSE I'VE BEEN ALMOST TAKING MY MOTORCYCLE AND MY VEHICLE TRAFFIC THERE GOES UP.
SO AS THE IMPACT OF TRAFFIC FLOW BEEN LOOKED AT, SECONDLY, THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT, MOST OF THAT AREA IS WOODS THERE.
AND TAKING, UM, THE ENVIRONMENT AWAY FROM THAT AREA AS THAT BEEN LOOKED AT AND THE HISTORICAL VALUE OF THAT AREA WHERE THE, UH, QUA IS, THAT USED TO BE AN OLD BRICK YARD.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FOLKS HAVE LOOKED IN THE HISTORY OF THAT BACK IN THE 18 HUNDREDS BRICK.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT, BUT I I WOULD LIKE FOR SOMEONE TO TAKE A DEEP DIVE INTO THAT.
AND WHO, WHO WANTED THIS REZONING? IS IT THE OPERATING ENGINEERS OR IS IT THE TOWN? THIS IS A PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROCESS.
IT'S, SO WE LOOKED AT ALL PARCELS THROUGHOUT THE TOWN AND WE HAD COMMITTEES TOGETHER.
THIS WAS A PROCESS THAT WAS, WAS STARTED, UH, I BELIEVE IN 2021.
UM, AND IT WAS IDENTIFIED THAT THE PEOPLE OF LAKEVIEW WOULD PREFER TO SEE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON TWO ACRES RATHER THAN AN ELECTROPLATING BUSINESS ON ONE ACRE WITH 50 EMPLOYEES THAT COME AND GO IN THEIR OWN VEHICLES.
IS THAT WHAT THE OPERATING ENGINEERS ARE PROPOSING? IT'S TO SELL.
THE OPERATING ENGINEERS ARE NOT PROPOSING ANYTHING.
THIS IS JUST THE RULES THAT THE TOWN IS PUTTING FORTH FOR, FOR LANDOWNER IN THAT AREA.
I THOUGHT THEY HAD A 99 YEAR LEASE THAT THEY WOULD MAINTAIN THAT AS THEIR PROPERTY, THE OPERATING ENGINE.
THEY MAY, BUT THAT WOULD BE A SEPARATE ISSUE FROM LAND USE.
SO YOU WERE PLANNING HOUSES, NOT PARKS AND EVERYTHING.
I MIGHT OFFER A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
THERE'S, THERE'S NO PROPOSALS.
PEOPLE AREN'T COMING TO THE TOWN SAYING, I WANNA PUT A SUBDIVISION IN.
THEY'RE NOT SAYING I WANNA PUT A HOME THERE WITH THE TOWN BOARD.
AND WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS SAYING IS THAT IT'S MUCH MORE LIKELY THAT SOMEBODY MAY WANNA COME TO HAMBURG TO PUT A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE ON A COUPLE ACRES.
AND THAT WOULD BE MORE AGREEABLE TO THE RESIDENTS THAN PUTTING LIGHT INDUSTRY AND HEAVY TRAFFIC INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
DOES DOES THAT PUSH OPERATING ENGINEERS OUT OF THEIR BUILDING? NOT AT ALL.
UH, I'M CURIOUS WHO WAS WHO THIS WAS BROUGHT TO LAKE? NOT HEARD OF IT.
WE DIDN'T GET ANY LETTER THIS BROUGHT TO US AND I'M NOT TALKING WITH IT.
I'M JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED PEOPLE, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE I KNOW THE FIRST THEY HEARD YEAH, I STORY, I NEVER HEARD ANYTHING.
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SO WE CONDUCTED EXTENSIVE OUTREACH INTO THE COMMUNITY AND THAT TOOK PLACE ON, ON FACEBOOK, ON EMAILS, THROUGH EARNED MEDIA, THROUGH ARTICLES IN THE SUN, THROUGH THE REQUIRED POSTINGS THAT WE HAVE TO PUT INTO OUR NEWSPAPERS.AND PERHAPS MOST IMPORTANTLY AND EFFECTIVELY WITH THE HELP OF THE LAKEVIEW COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION.
NOW, THEY DON'T SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY, BUT THEY HAVE A GROUP OF RESIDENTS THAT IS COMMITTED TO THEIR COMMUNITY AND THEY SHARE SOME OF THEIR THOUGHTS, UM, WHAT THEY WOULD SEE.
AND THEY INDICATED THAT IT'D BE MUCH MORE, UH, OF AN APPETITE FOR VERY SMALL, LOW IMPACT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THAN LIGHT INDUSTRY.
I AGREE WITH THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK WE NEED AN EITHER OR.
I MEAN, I THINK HAMBURG HAS BEEN DEVELOPED LIKE ASTRONOMICALLY AND LAKEVIEW HAS BEEN TOO.
AND THE AMOUNT OF ACCIDENTS AND DEATHS.
I MEAN YEARS, UH, SEVERAL YEARS AGO WE HAD FOUR KIDS DRUNK DRIVING GOING DOWN THAT ROAD, WHICH IS NOTHING BUT BEN'S HIT A TREE.
THEY WERE COMING AT OUR HOUSE, THE CAR WAS COMING AT OUR HOUSE AND HIT A TREE STONE AND IT SENT THE CAR IN THE AIR INTO A MAPLE TREE IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE AND NOT INTO OUR HOUSE.
IT IS THERE, THERE HAVE BEEN SO MANY ACCIDENTS THERE AND THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC SINCE THEY BUILT THE DEVELOPMENT BETWEEN HEALTHS AND SOUTHWESTERN WESTERN HAS INCREASED IT EVEN BY MANY MORE.
AND THEN YOU TAKE SOUTHWESTERN BOULEVARD AND YOU TAKE ROUTE FIVE, WHICH ARE BOTH THE MOST, SOME OF THE MOST DANGEROUS ROADS IN THE COUNTY, UM, AS FAR AS ACCIDENTS HAPPENING.
AND YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.
AND YOU TAKE SOUTHWESTERN AND YOU GO FROM FOUR LANES TO TWO LANES.
IT TAKES US FOREVER TO GET OUT OF THERE, TO GO TO WORK OR TO DO ANYTHING.
NO ONE CARES ABOUT OUR CHILDREN, OUR ANIMALS.
YOU DON'T CARE THAT THERE'S DEER ALL OVER THERE.
THAT THE DEER ARE GETTING HIT CONSTANTLY.
THAT YOU HAVE COYOTES THERE, YOU HAVE FOX THERE, YOU HAVE EVERYTHING.
YOU'RE TAKING AWAY ALL THE GREEN SPACE IN IN ALL OF THAT.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT IT WAS THOSE EXACT CONCERNS THAT INFORMED OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
YOU KNOW, BURKE IS GONNA GO IN THERE AND BUILD ALL THESE HOUSES AND IT ISN'T GONNA BE GREENLAND AND YOU CAN TAKE TWO ACRES, BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT GREENLAND.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THOSE ANIMALS.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE TAKING ALL OF THAT AWAY.
SO WHEN IT CAME TO THE INITIAL OUTAGE ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND GETTING FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY, NOW MR. BURKE IS NOT GOING TO LOOK TO PUT A SUB DECISION IN WHEN YOU CAN ONLY HAVE ONE HOUSE ON TWO ACRES.
IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT, THAT YOU GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY SO THAT WE CAN TELL YOU.
AND I, I WANNA SAY FIRST AND FOREMOST, I TAKE ISSUE WITH YOUR STATEMENT THAT NOBODY CARES ABOUT THE KIDS OR THE WILDLIFE.
OUR PLANNING BOARD AND THIS TOWN BOARD JUST TOOK ACTION ON A PROPOSAL THAT WOULD'VE TAKEN KIDS ENCOURAGE 'EM TO CROSS THE STREET CROSS SOUTHWESTERN TO GO TO A DOLLAR GENERAL.
THE PLANNING BOARD AND THE TOWN BOARD DECIDED AGAINST THEIRS.
SO WE TAKE THOSE CONCERNS VERY SERIOUSLY.
BUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THAT EFFORT, INCLUDING THE OUTREACH TO COMMUNITIES LIKE LAKEVIEW, WAS LED BY COUNCIL MEMBER FARRELL RENTS.
AND, UH, PLEASE, PLEASE SHARE, UH, YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THAT ISSUES.
AND I THINK THERE WERE TWO, TWO THINGS, JUST TO GO BACK TO YOUR FIRST COMMENT ABOUT NOTIFICATION.
I WASN'T SURE IF YOU MEANT NOTIFICATION, UM, OR THE PROCESS FOR INFORMING THE DECISIONS OF THE COMP OR IF YOU MEANT SPECIFICALLY NOTIFICATION REGARDING THIS PUBLIC, UM, HEARING AND, AND WHAT WAS BEING PROPOSED HERE.
'CAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE'S A WAY FOR NOTIFICATION OUT OF OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND THAT THOSE LETTERS DO GET SENT OUT.
SO I WASN'T SURE WHICH NOTIFICATION YOU WERE REFERENCING AS FAR AS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS THE SUPERVISOR, UM, SPOKE PREVIOUSLY, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT, UM, OVER ABOUT A THREE YEAR PERIOD OF, UH, OPPORTUNITY FOR, UH, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
AND THERE WERE MANY DIFFERENT OPINIONS THAT WERE OFFERED.
UM, WE ALSO USED, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR TOWN CONSULTANT, OUR PLANNING CONSULTANT HELPED US WEIGH IN.
AND WHEN WE MET WITH THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE LAKEVIEW HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, UM, OUR PLANNER WAS THERE AND WE TALKED ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT POSSIBILITIES.
UM, YOUR POINT THAT YOU SAID BEFORE ABOUT THAT THEY COULD CLEAR THE GREEN SPACE AND, AND
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WE, OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS LOOKING AT THE GREEN SPACE TOO.WE AGREE THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT OUR, OUR PLAN, OUR OPEN SPACE PLAN AND, AND UPDATE THAT BECAUSE IT HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED SINCE 1980.
SO WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT ALSO.
BUT IF IT STAYS LIFE INDUSTRIAL, THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS THAT WHO OWNS THAT PROPERTY COULDN'T COME THROUGH AND CLEAR THAT FOR INDUSTRIAL.
SO I DON'T THINK THIS CHANGE IS GONNA MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF YOUR, YOUR CONCERN ABOUT CLEARING, UM, THE LAND, ALTHOUGH WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT PERSPECTIVE ALSO.
UM, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IMPLEMENTATION TEAM IN THIS TOWN BOARD WILL BE LOOKING AT, UH, GREEN SPACE AND OPEN SPACE AND UPDATING THAT.
UM, I BELIEVE MR. MCQUEEN IS HERE.
HE IS OUR TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY, UH, UH, UM, ADVISORY BOARD COORDINATOR AND I'M THE LIAISON FOR THAT GROUP.
AND WE LOOK AT TRAFFIC CONCERNS THROUGHOUT THE TOWN ON A REGULAR BASIS.
UH, THE GROUP IS COMPRISED OF FORMER POLICE OFFICERS IN THE TOWN, OTHER INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE EXPERTISE IN TRAFFIC SAFETY, UH, AND THEY LOOK AT SPEED LIMITS.
WE'VE DONE A LOT IN THE LAST FEW YEARS TO LOOK AT A REDUCTION OF SPEED LIMITS THROUGHOUT THE TOWN.
WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT A WHOLE HOST OF, OF ADDITIONAL ADJUSTMENTS TO OUR SPEED LIMITS.
WE LOOK AT, UH, SIGNAGE THAT IMPROVES SAFETY, ET CETERA.
SO IF, IF YOU HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THAT AREA, AND I THINK YOU'VE DONE A VERY GOOD JOB ALREADY OF DESCRIBING IT, MR. MCQUEEN IS HERE AND I'M SURE THAT HE WOULD BE HAPPY TO PUT THAT ON ONE OF OUR FUTURE AGENDAS SO THAT THE TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AREA AND SEE WITH THEIR EYES WHAT THEY CAN POSSIBLY SUGGEST FOR THE CURRENT CONDITIONS, UM, REFLECTING THE CURRENT CONCERNS THAT YOU'VE STATED.
AND AGAIN, LOOKING AT WHAT THIS ZONING MAY DO TO AFFECT THAT AREA.
THE OTHER, UM, POINT THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP, GOING BACK TO YOUR POINT ABOUT SEWERS, ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM OUR TOWN PLANNER AND ANNISE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION ON THIS ALSO, WAS THAT THERE WAS ALWAYS THE DEBATE ABOUT THE, THE SEWERS AND EXTENDING THE SEWERS.
AND IT WAS FELT THAT IF THE SEWER SEWERS ARE EXTENDED, THAT THAT WOULD, UM, INCREASE THE LIKELIHOOD OF SOME OF THE SUBDIVISION DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT.
SO THIS CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN KEPT THAT AT BAY.
IT, IT, IT, UM, MAINTAINS WHERE THE, THE SEWER STOP AND THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO, UM, CONTINUE TO, UM, EXTEND THE SEWER SYSTEM FOR THAT VERY REASON SO THAT IT WOULD BE LESS LIKELY THAT YOU WOULD HAVE SMALL LOT, UM, BUILDING DEVELOPMENT IN LAKEVIEW BECAUSE THAT WAS THE FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED, THAT THAT WAS FOR THOSE SECTIONS OF LAKEVIEW.
THAT WAS THE CHARACTER THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTED TO MAINTAIN GOING FORWARD.
UM, THIS PARTICULAR REZONING, AGAIN, WAS OUT OF A LOT OF CONVERSATION AND BECAUSE IT'S BORDERED BY DIFFERENT, UM, RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES, THE OPERATING ENGINEERS, IT WAS FELT THAT AS A BUFFER BETWEEN THOSE AREAS THAT UM, RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURE VERSUS INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT INDUSTRIAL WOULD BE A BETTER FIT.
YOU ARE ALWAYS GONNA HAVE SPOTS IN THE TOWN WHERE DIFFERENT ZONINGS MEET, BUT OUR HOPE IS THAT WE CREATE A SYSTEM OR A PATTERN WHERE THE AREAS WHERE THEY MEET ARE MORE COMPATIBLE, UM, THAT WE GUIDE WHAT MIGHT BE, UM, FUTURE SITUATIONS IN IN THAT AREA.
I DON'T KNOW, ANISE, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? DID I DIG THAT CORRECTLY OR YEAH.
DID THAT, DID THAT HELP AT ALL? IS THERE ANYTHING? A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE WERE JUST CONCERNED 'CAUSE WE ALL HAVE SEWERS, WHICH 2023 IS INSANE.
WE DON'T NEED SEPTIC OR SEPTIC.
YOU HAVE SEP RIGHT? SO SORRY, WE HAVE SEPTIC SYSTEMS, WHICH, YOU KNOW, AREN'T BAD.
BUT IF YOU HAVE TO GO INTO A SEWER THAT'S QUITE INEXPENSIVE.
THERE'S NOT THIS PARTICULAR, THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES NOT, UM, PROPOSE TO EXTEND THOSE SEWERS.
THEY, IT'S, THE IDEA IS THAT WE WANNA MAINTAIN THE CURRENT CHARACTER OF THAT AREA ALONG WITH THESE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGES THAT WILL BE MORE COMPATIBLE TO THE AREAS AS THEY BRIDGE BETWEEN, UM, CURRENT RESIDENTIAL AREAS, THE OPERATING ENGINEERS, ET CETERA.
AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE AS WELL THAT AS WE'RE LOOKING AT LAND USE THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, IF THERE'S A CURRENT USE THAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW, IF WE REZONE IT, THEY STILL HAVE RIGHTS TO THAT USE.
SO THIS IS SPECIFIC TO THE QUESTION ABOUT THE OPERATING
IF, IF THAT CHANGED, IT WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO USE THAT PROPERTY FOR THE USE THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY USING IT FOR.
IT WOULD BE WHEN OWNERSHIP CHANGES THAT, THAT WOULD GO INTO EFFECT.
BUT WE, WE'VE TALKED TO THE OPERATING ENGINEERS
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ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC, UH, REZONING AND, AND THEY'RE ON BOARD WITH IT.WE'VE ALSO HAD SEVERAL PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT WERE PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ADOPTION PROCESS WHERE WE ALSO RAISED, RAISED THESE ISSUES AS WELL.
AND I JUST WANT TO SAY IT'S, IT'S A CHALLENGE IN LAKEVIEW BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME TO OUR TOWN BECAUSE OF MORE OF A RURAL CHARACTER, MORE GREEN SPACE AND ONE STATE LIVE THERE AND THEY WANT THE TIM HORTONS AND THEY WANT THE CONVENIENCE OF, OF SMALLER, SMALLER BUSINESSES.
SO IT'S CERTAINLY A BALANCE, BUT WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND COMMITTEE DID IN THIS INSTANCE WAS ERR ON THE SIDE OF LESS, DE LESS DEPE, LESS DEVELOPMENT RATHER THAN PROVIDING THE OPTION FOR MORE INDUSTRIAL HEAVIER USES WITH INCREASED TRAFFIC.
AND I, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING THAT IT'S A VERY GOOD THING.
AND I THINK THIS WOULD BE A, A, A STEP TO, TO MAINTAIN THAT, THAT CHARACTER.
I JUST, I JUST BECAUSE I'M EXPERIENCING THIS AND THE AGENDA, BUT WE WARN PEOPLE THAT THERE'S THIS NASTY WORD CALLED INDUSTRIAL, LIKE WE'RE ALL AFRAID OF IT BECAUSE WE'RE FROM BUFFALO.
BUT BE CAUTIOUS TO YOUR POINT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW HAPPY RESIDENTIAL LIFESTYLES AS COMPARED TO AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE BECAUSE WE HAVE A, I HAVE, I PERSONALLY HAVE SOME PRETTY REALLY GOOD INDUSTRIAL NEIGHBORS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ARE PRETTY GOOD FREAKING NEIGHBORS.
SO UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT'S A COMPREHEND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND CAN'T GO BACK TO TIME CHANGING.
BUT WE'RE, WE LIVE IN BUFFALO, SO INDUSTRY SCARES THE BEJESUS OUT OF US, BUT GUESS WHAT? IT'S NOT.
SOMETIMES THEY'RE FRIENDLIER THAN RESIDENTIALS CAN BE.
THEY DON'T CHASE THE AWAY OUR BOX AND OUR COES AND NEITHER DO.
AND SO DO RESTAURANTS AND BARS CHASE THE AWAY COYOTES AND BOX.
SO BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT ZONING REALLY ALLOWS COMMUNITY.
THIS IS JUST A FOREWARNING READING.
EDUCATE YOURSELVES ABOUT BEFORE YOU, UM,
ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO BE HEARD? YES SIR.
I MEAN, FOR MY HOUSES I GOT A LITTLE CRI BECAUSE GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO WENT TO HEALTH SCHOOL.
I DON'T WANT ANY OF THIS TO AFFECT, I THINK IT COULD AFFECT HOW FLOWS ANDS AND ALL THAT TALK ABOUT YEAH, THIS, I I I WOULDN'T FORESEE THIS REZONING AS IMPACTING THE, THE NATURE OF, OF THE CREEK, THE DIRECTION OR PLACEMENT OF THE CREEK.
AND THERE'S ALSO, I THINK THERE'S WETLANDS THERE ALSO, BUT I, YEAH, SO THOSE, THOSE RULES AND THOSE LAWS ARE, ARE STILL IN EFFECT IF A PARCEL CAN BE ZONED HOWEVER YOU WANT, BUT IF THERE'S WETLANDS THAT WILL HE CARE IN NORWAY AND YOU'LL KNOW.
WE HAVE TO PAY VERY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THAT.
ANYBODY ELSE? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, STATEMENTS? YES, MA'AM.
SO YOU SAID THAT THEY HAVE DONE AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDY SPECIFICALLY AS A, AS A PART OF THIS REZONING.
I BELIEVE THAT WOULD, AND AND I'LL REFER TO JOSH AND LISA ON THIS, I BELIEVE THAT WOULD HAPPEN WHEN THERE WAS A PROPOSAL THERE WOULD, THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT WOULD TAKE PLACE AT THAT TIME, CORRECT? CORRECT.
SO BEFORE THE REZONING PROCESS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO STATE JUST TO RESOLVE IT.
IF SOMEBODY WERE TO COME IN IT'S RESULTS
SO THIS IS, THIS IS A, A ZONING OF THE ENTIRE AREA, SO OF, OF LARGER PARCELS WHERE, AND, AND, AND I, I DON'T NECESSARILY SEE IT AS A, AS A WASTE OF TIME.
IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO DO SOMETHING ON A PARCEL, THEN WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON THAT.
WE'LL TELL 'EM WHERE THEY CAN, WHERE THEY CAN'T, WHAT THE CODE IS, WHERE THE WETLANDS ARE AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THEY, BUT AS YOU ALL KNOW, FOLKS, THAT LIVE IN LAKEVIEW.
THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF LAND.
SO WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO DO OUR DI DUE DILIGENCE ON, ON EVERY PARCEL UNTIL THERE'S AN INTEREST TO DEVELOP THAT PERSON.
A LOT OF THESE FOLKS IN THIS ROOM ARE MY NEIGHBORS.
WE ALL DRIVING THE SNAKE ROAD.
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WE ALL SHARE THE, THE BEAUTY OF WHAT WE HAVE IN DEFENSE OF WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.I THINK WE WOULD ALL AGREE THAT, UM, WE WOULD BE IN MUCH FAVOR TO HAVE LARGE LOT, UH, NEIGHBORS WITH RESIDENTIAL AS OPPOSED TO AN ASPHALT PLANT OR AS OPPOSED TO SOME KIND OF EXTENSION OF SOME KIND OF, UH, MANUFACTURING SITUATION, WHICH IS NOW UNDER THE ZONE.
I WOULD JUST HOPE THAT AS THIS GOES FORWARD, YOU'RE NOT GONNA STOP ANYTHING.
BUT AS THIS GOES FORWARD, YOU FIND PEOPLE WANTING TO DO THINGS THERE THAT THIS BOARD AND, AND YOU FOLKS WHO ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS DO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT OUR ROAD IS WINDY AND SNAKY.
I MEAN, THERE'S, I WISH THE, THE PEOPLE THAT DEFEND THESE MOTORCYCLE COMMERCIALS WOULD PARK THEIR BUTTS ON OUR STREET.
THEY WOULD SEE THAT THERE'S ONE THAT GOES UNDER 65.
AND I MEAN, IT'S A VERY DANGEROUS ROAD.
WE ALL ENJOY WHAT WE DO HAVE, BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT USERS WILL DO THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS WHEN PEOPLE WANNA START TO BUILD THEIR HOMES THERE AND REALLY REINFORCE THE IDEA THAT'S GONNA COST AN EXTRA $20,000 TO PUT IN THEIR PRIVATE SEWER.
BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE SEWERS IN THAT WHOLE AREA.
AND IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL SEPARATE SYSTEMS. AND I DO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE ZONE THIS AND THE ZONE THAT.
AND I THINK EVERYBODY WHO OWNS AND LIVES ON PLEASANT OR HELPS OR WITH THE SCHOOL OR, OR BY, UH, CLO CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THOSE TWO PARKS, I THINK THEY WOULD ALL RATHER SEE LARGE AREA RESIDENTIALS AS OPPOSED TO INDUSTRY.
CAN I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION TO THE FELLOW WITH THE TRAFFIC, WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO DO TO GET A SIGNAL ON PLEASANT AND SOUTH? HOW MANY DEATHS DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE BEFORE DID I MEET YOU LAST WEEK? NO, THAT WASN'T, OH, I SPOKE TO SOMEBODY LAST WEEK.
'CAUSE I, IF YOU EVER GO DOWN PLEASANT, TRY TO MAKE A LEFT HAND TURN COUNT FOR 15 MINUTES.
THE LANE AS A, AS A STOP LANE TO GET INTO TRAFFIC.
I'LL STICK AROUND, UH, OR WHATEVER.
I'LL GIVE YOU MY BUSINESS CARD.
WE'LL TALK THE OFFICIAL, WHAT IS THE OFFICIAL SPEED LIMIT FROM THE RAILROAD TRACKS? TWO 20.
SO WE'RE, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING 65, WE CAN, WE CAN CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION DURING, DURING THE PUBLIC EXPRESSION.
BUT WE'RE JUST GETTING A LITTLE OFF COURSE OF THE, OF THE REZONING.
ANYBODY ELSE WANNA BE HEARD FOR OR AGAINST OR OTHERWISE? UM, THIS SPECIFIC REZONING FROM LIKE INDUSTRIAL, RESIDENTIAL, LIKE AGRICULTURE OVER BY ELK ROAD AND PLUS WILL THIS COME TO STERLING ROAD RIGHT IN THE BACK OF STERLING ROAD WHERE ALL THE WOODS IS LIKE, WILL IT COME RIGHT UP BACK UP TO OUR PROPERTY? IT'S JUST BEFORE THAT.
IT'S JUST BEFORE THE STERLING, UM, CULDESAC DOESN'T COME.
SO FROM THERE TO SOUTHWESTERN.
UM, SO STERLING'S THERE AND THEN DO HAVE ALS.
IT GOES SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE THERE.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS ONE? WE DO HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
ALRIGHT, SO NOW WE MOVE ON TO THE ZONING OF THE FORMER NEW YORK STATE THROUGHWAY PROPERTY.
SO FOLKS THAT HAVE RECENTLY TAKEN THE INTERSTATE 90, WHEN YOU EXIT, AS YOU HAVE YOUR CHOICE TO MAKE A LEFT OR A RIGHT ON CAM ROAD, YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHAT WAS THE FORMER LEISURE LAND PROPERTY WHEN NEW YORK STATE TOOK THAT CLOVER LEAF OUT, IT LEFT A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS COMPLETELY BLANK ON OUR ZONING MAP.
SO IF LEFT UN ZONE THERE, YOU COULD PUT ANYTHING THAT YOU WANTED IN THAT, BECAUSE THERE'S NO RULES.
LET TAKE NOTICE THAT THERE HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO TOM BOARD ON JUNE 12TH, 2023, PURSUANT TO MUNICIPAL HOME RULE LAW.
A PROPOSED LOCAL LAW TO BE KNOWN AS PROPOSED LOCAL LAW.
NUMBER 10 20 23 SAID LOCAL LAW PROVIDES FOR THE AMENDMENT OF LOCAL LAW.
NUMBER 10 19 86, JUDGE TWO 80 ENTITLED ZONING AND PROVIDES SUBSTANTIALLY AS FOLLOWS FOR THE ADOPTION OF A ZONING MAP.
AMENDMENT TO SAID ZONING CODE FOR PROPERTY LOCATED NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF CAMP ROAD AND THE NEW YORK STATE THROUGH AT BOARD INTERCHANGE.
THIS PARCEL OF LAND IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF CAMP ROAD AND CURRENTLY DOES NOT HAVE A ZONING CLASSIFICATION PREVIOUSLY CONTAINED CLOVER LEAVE
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FOR NEW YORK STATE THROUGHT PROPERTY.THE PARCEL WILL NOW BE CRI CAMP ROAD INTERCHANGE DISTRICT.
THEREFORE, PURSUANT TO THE STATUTES IN THE PROVISION OF MUNICIPAL HOME RULE LAW, THE TOWN BOARD AT THE TOWN OF HANDBOOK WILL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON JULY 17TH, 2023 AT 7:00 PM LOCAL TIME, AT WHICH TIME ALL INTERESTED PERSONS MAY BE HEARD.
NOW, ANNISE AND JOSH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE CAMP ROAD INTERCHANGE, UH, ZONING.
IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING HANDY THAT THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL BEFORE WE OPEN IT TO, TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
UM, AGAIN, THIS WAS A RESULT OF SIGNIFICANT PLANNING AND PUBLIC OUTREACH.
WE KNEW THAT WE'D HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS PARCEL.
AND INSTEAD OF INCORPORATING THIS PARCEL INTO OUR EXISTING LAND USE, WE DECIDED TO CREATE A NEW INTERCHANGE DISTRICT THAT WAS INFORMED BY OUR GATEWAY REVITALIZATION PLAN, WHICH ADDRESSED A FEW CORRIDORS WITHIN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG.
ONE BEING, WHAT DOES HAMBURG LOOK LIKE WHEN YOU GET OFF OF THROUGHWAY AT EXIT 57? WE BROUGHT A BUNCH OF PEOPLE TOGETHER.
WE THOUGHT OF A HOSPITAL, WE THOUGHT OF A HOTEL.
WE THOUGHT OF A LARGE RETAIL SPACE, A NEW BUILD.
UM, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WE HAD A RESIDENT HERE WHO SAID SHE'D LIKE TO SEE A CAR WASH THERE.
I KNOW PEOPLE HAVE STRONG FEELINGS ON THAT, BUT IT WAS PART OF THE FEEDBACK FOR FOLKS THAT CAME TO, TO THAT MEETING.
SO FROM THAT PUBLIC COMMENT AND OUTREACH, WE CRAFTED THIS CAMP ROAD INTERCHANGE DISTRICT, WHICH IS REALLY GEARED TOWARDS MAKING SURE WE HAVE SOME NICE AMENITIES THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE AND THEY CAN BE THEIR FIRST IMPRESSION OF HAMBURG AS THEY GET, GET OFF THE THROUGH WITH.
SO DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY, ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD TO THE CAMP RATE INTERCHANGE, DISTRICT DESCRIPTION? UH, ONE THING WANTED TO MENTION IS THAT, SO THE SPECIFIC PROPERTY OF THE SCHOOL NOTION IS NEW PROPERTY.
IT'S ONE PROPERTY I THAT GONNA BE IMPLEMENTING THIS
THE REASON WHY THIS ONE WAS ON FOR THIS
UM, WE WERE SAYING HAS SINCE POSTPONE THE SALE OF THIS SPECIFIC PROPERTY, THIS ONE PARCEL, WE ALSO PART, THERE ARE MANY OTHER PARCELS WITHIN DISTRICT, THIS SPECIFIC PARCEL.
OH, THIS PARCEL THAT YOU SPEAK OF AND WE WANT TO BE HEARD FOR OR AGAINST.
I'M SORRY, I THERE ANYTHING, YOU SHOULD NOT LET PEOPLE TURN LEFT OUTTA MCDONALD'S.
SO AGAIN, THAT WOULD, YEAH, SO, SO THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD FOLLOW WELL OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF, OF THIS, THIS ISSUE.
BUT WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.
UM, SO AGAIN, THIS IS A SITUATION WHERE RIGHT NOW ANYTHING CAN GO THERE.
SO BEFORE IT GETS SOLD, WE WANT HAVE SOME, SOME RULES, REGULATIONS, AND, AND ALLOW BUSINESSES THE OPPORTUNITY IF THEY SEE FIT.
AND, AND HONESTLY ON THIS SPECIFIC, ON THE, THE CLOVERLEAF PARCEL, IT'S REALLY GONNA DEPEND WHAT GOES IN THERE IS GONNA DEPEND ON WHAT THE NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION DECIDES.
BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO RULE ON THE, THE ENTRANCES AND THE EXITS.
IT'S A COMPLICATED PIECE OF, OF ROME TO NAVIGATE.
SOMETHING HAS TO GO THERE THAT MADE SOMETHING THAT'S NOT COMMERCIALIZED.
JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING, SOMETHING THAT'S WANT NOT JUST THE VILLAGE, SOMETHING THAT'S, THANK YOU.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CONLEY.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
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ABSTENTIONS CARRIED.SO THIS NEXT PUBLIC HEARING, I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME MORE SPEAKERS ON, AND WE HAVE A CLIPBOARD UP THERE FOR FOLKS TO SIGN IF THEY'D LIKE TO SPEAK.
AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT THREE MINUTES.
UM, DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS TO THE BOARD AND I WILL NOW READ THE NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING.
PLEASE TAKE NOTICE THAT THERE HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO THE TOWN BOARD ON JUNE 26TH, 2023, PURSUANT TO MUNICIPAL HOME RULE LAW, A PROPOSED LOCAL LAW TO BE KNOWN AS PROPOSED LOCAL LAW.
NUMBER 11 20 23 SAID LOCAL LAW PROVIDES FOR THE AMENDMENT OF LOCAL LAW NUMBER 10 19 86, CHAPTER TWO 80 IN FEDERAL ZONING AND PROVIDES SUBSTANTIALLY AS FOLLOWS, THAT THE ADOPTION OF AMENDMENT TO Z ZONING CODE FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 37 80 HOOVER ROAD FROM M TWO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT TO MU ONE MIXED USE DISTRICT.
THIS PROPERTY IS IDENTIFIED BY SB NUMBER 1 5 9 1 1 8 1.
THEREFORE, PURSUANT TO THE STATUTES AND PROVISIONS OF A MUNICIPAL HOME RULE LAW, THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF AMBER WILL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON JULY 17TH, 2023 AT 7:00 PM OVER TIME, AT WHICH TIME ALL INTERESTED PERSONS MAY BE HEARD.
SO FOLKS, AS YOU COME UP TO SPEAK, WE ASK THAT YOU SIMPLY STATE YOUR NAME LOUD ENOUGH SO THAT THE TOWN CLERK CAN HEAR IT.
AND PLEASE KEEP IN MIND WE DON'T HAVE THE BEST AUDIO VISUAL EQUIPMENT DOWN HERE.
SO IF YOU COULD SPEAK NICE AND LOUD SO EVERYBODY CAN HEAR YOU, THAT WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
WHO'S FIRST ON THE LIST? THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR HEARING ME OUT.
UH, JUST AND FOREMOST, UH, MY NAME IS KELSEY KRISTOFFERSON AND I COME HERE TODAY AS A BUSINESS ASPECT.
I'VE BEEN IN THE HOSPITALITY BUSINESS FOR OVER 24 YEARS, AND I'VE KNOWN ANN MACINTOSH AND A COAL CASTLE FOR ABOUT SEVEN YEARS.
THESE TWO WOMEN ARE AN ABSOLUTE FORCE TO WORK WITH IN 20 YEARS IN THIS BUSINESS.
THEY'RE BY FAR THE MOST INTEGROUS INDIVIDUALS I'VE EVER WORKED WITH IN MY LIFE.
WE FIRST MET WITH IN EARLY STAGES OF PLANNING ALCHEMY, WINE AND BEER BACK IN 2017, AND THEY BUILT THAT BUSINESS INTO A POWERHOUSE AND THEY WANT TO REINVEST BACK INTO THEIR COMMUNITY PHASE.
THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN INCREDIBLE CUSTOMERS FOR ME.
I STARTED OFF AS A CONSULTING, UH, A CONSULTING RELATIONSHIP.
I'VE WORKED WITH THEM AS A WHOLESALER AS WELL AS A SUPPLIER.
AND THEY'VE ALWAYS REINVESTED BACK WITH THEIR VENDORS ON TOP OF THE AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT THAT THEY'VE DONE WITHIN THEIR COMMUNITY.
THE FINANCIAL IMPACT ON LIVELIHOODS OF THEIR ORIGINAL BUSINESS HAS BEEN MONUMENTAL FOR LOCAL SUPPLIERS AND VENDORS AND IN THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE REAL.
UM, BCH WILL FINANCIALLY IMPACT THE SAME SUPPLIERS AND SO MANY MORE, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO CATERERS, ENTERTAINMENT, EVENT STRUCTURE, VENDORS, UH, VENDORS SUCH AS, UH, TENTS AND CHAIRS AND TABLES, IF YOU WILL, FLORISTS, MAINTENANCE, SECURITY, PARKING, ATTENDANCE, FOOD AND BEVERAGE EMPLOYEES SUCH AS SERVERS AND BARTENDERS.
THE LEVEL OF LAYERS THAT GOES INTO EVENT PLANNING.
AND I MYSELF HAVE OVER 10 YEARS OF EVENT PLANNING MANAGEMENT.
THERE'S SO MUCH OPPORTUNITY FOR, UM, FOR EMPLOYMENTS AND I KNOW THEY BOTH GREW UP IN THE AREA.
THEY WANT TO REINVEST BACK INTO THEIR COMMUNITY AND CREATE MORE JOBS WITHIN HAMBURG.
THE LEVEL OF THE LEVEL OF SUPPORT WITH, UM, THE AMOUNT OF VENDORS THAT THEY COULD BE DOING WITH THIS NEW PROPERTY FINANCIALLY WISE IS THROUGH THE ROOF.
SO HAVING THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM AND FOR THE COMMUNITY AND HAVING MORE JOBS ON, ON THE LINE AS OPPORTUNITY WOULD BE SUBSTANTIAL.
UM, I'M HERE TO, I'M HERE TODAY WITH MY DAUGHTER ADDISON.
I HAVE PERSONALLY HAVE EXPERIENCED A LOT OF, UH, FINANCIAL, UM, SUPPORT FROM THEM FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS.
I'M A SINGLE MOM AND THEY'VE BEEN AMAZING.
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THEY STARTED OFF AS A BUSINESS AND NOW I CONSIDER THEM FAMILY.SO THEY'RE ABSOLUTE WONDERFUL PEOPLE TO WORK WITH.
WHETHER IF YOU'RE, WHETHER IF YOU'RE A CUSTOMER OR IF YOU'RE A VENDOR, YOU'RE AMAZING.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HEARING ME.
WHO'S NEXT ON LIST? HI BOARD MEMBERS.
I'M AN ATTORNEY WITH THE FIRM OF HARBOR C CREST AND EMERY.
UH, OUR FIRM HAS BEEN ENGAGED BY, UH, THE VAN DALES BRONZE AND THE GUYERS, WHO ARE ALL OWNERS OF RESIDENCE DIRECTLY, UM, ADJACENT TO THE REZONED PROPERTY ON HOOVER ROAD.
UM, ON FRIDAY, WE SUBMITTED A NOR NOISE ASSESSMENT REPORT, AS WELL AS, UH, A EARLY LENGTHY LETTER FROM MYSELF.
UM, THOSE SHOULD HAVE BEEN FORWARDED TO YOU.
I THINK FOR PURPOSES OF MY COMMENT, AND I KNOW YOU WANNA KEEP IT REALLY QUICKLY, IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO HAVE THE REPORTS IN FRONT OF YOU.
I BROUGHT COPIES OF THEM HERE.
SO MY LETTER ON TOP, YOU CAN JUST PULL THAT OFF.
UM, AND OBVIOUSLY THREE MINUTES, I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO COVER EVERYTHING IN THE LETTER.
SO I WOULD, AS THE LEAD SEEKER AGENCY TO REZONE THIS, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF AND ANSWER BEFORE YOU REZONE IS WHETHER OR NOT THIS REZONING WILL POTENTIALLY RESULT IN A SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.
AND, UH, OUR PRESENTATION WRITTEN SUBMITTED, AND WHAT I WOULD SAY NOW INDICATES THAT CLEARLY THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR A SUBSTANTIAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.
THEREFORE, YOU SHOULD MAKE A DE DECLARATION OF POSITIVE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AND WE SHOULD PROCEED TO AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT.
AND AS YOU LOOK AT THE RECORD BEFORE THE TOWN PLANNING BOARD, YOU SEE HOW CRITICAL THIS IS BECAUSE AT THE PRESENT TIME, WE DON'T REALLY EVEN KNOW WHAT AN INVENTOR EVENT CENTER IS DESIGNED TO BE.
WHAT'S GONNA BE THERE? IS THERE GONNA BE LIVE MUSIC? IS IT GONNA BE INSIDE? IS IT GONNA BE OUTSIDE? HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GONNA GO? WHERE IS THE EVENT GONNA TAKE PLACE ON THE PROPERTY? HOW CLOSE IS IT TO THE NEIGHBORS? THERE ARE SO MANY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS HERE.
UM, THE STRUCTURE ITSELF IS FOUR FEET, SEVEN INCHES FROM THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
YOUR MU ONE ZONING REQUIRES 20 FEET.
IT'S NOT JUST THE TECHNICALITY.
IT'S ONE THING WHEN YOU HAD A WAREHOUSE THERE WITH FIVE EMPLOYEES, NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT EVENTS WITH 125 PEOPLE OR MORE.
THEY'RE DESIGNING 83 PARKING SPOTS AND THE EMERGENCY EXIT IS IN THE BACK RIGHT UP AGAINST THAT BORDERLINE.
THERE'S, THERE'S LESS THAN FIVE FEET THERE TO MOVE OUT.
AND WITH THE STRUCTURES THAT ARE THERE RIGHT NOW, YOU ARE EVEN LESS THAN THAT.
YOU PUT EVEN PUT THE WHEELCHAIR OUT THE BACK OF THAT EMERGENCY EXIT.
BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING THIS MANY PEOPLE AT THE PLACE.
NONE OF THAT'S BEEN LOOKED AT.
THE SEEKER STATEMENT SAID, UH, THAT THERE WOULD BE NO IMPACT TO THE LOCAL TRAFFIC ABOVE THE NORMAL LEVEL LEVELS.
HOOVER ROAD HAS LIKE THREE CARS PASS EVERY 15 MINUTES FROM THE EXAMINATION WE DID.
OKAY, 83 PARKING PLACES IN AN EVENT CENTER IS CLEARLY GONNA BE AN IMPACT STATEMENT ON THE TRAFFIC.
BUT YET SPEAKER STATEMENT THAT THEY SUBMITTED SAYS, NO IMPACT.
SO THAT HAS BEEN IGNORED, THAT HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED YET.
ALL OF THESE THINGS NEED TO BE ADDRESSED IN AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT.
QUICKLY ON THIS EX EXPERT REPORT WE HAD, IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE TWO, WHAT THIS REPORT DOES IS IT SAYS, HOW DO YOU ASSESS NOISE UNDER D C'S REGULATIONS AND UNDER YOUR SECRET REQUIREMENTS? AND THEY MEASURED NOISE BASED IMPACT BASED UPON THE INCREASE, WHICH MAKES SENSE.
IF YOU LIVE IN THE MIDDLE OF NEW YORK CITY AND NOISE GOES FROM 60 DECIBELS TO 63, IT MAY NOT BE ALL THAT SIGNIFICANT, BUT YOU HAVE TO START WITH YOUR AMBIENT NOISE LEVELS.
SO THIS EXPERT CAME OUT TO THESE PEOPLE'S HOUSES, THESE RESIDENTS, AND THEY TOOK AMBIENT NOISE LEVELS AND THEY'RE ALL SET FORTH IN, IN THIS REPORT, THEY AVERAGE ABOUT 45 DECIBELS.
THE CHART ON PAGE TWO OF THIS REPORT DESCRIBES IF YOUR CHANGE IN DECIBELS IS UNDER FIVE, IT'S PRETTY WELL UNNOTICEABLE.
AND THEN IT SHOWS FIVE TO 10 INTRUSIVE, 10 TO 15, VERY NOTICE OF NOTICEABLE, 15 TO 20, OBJECTIONABLE OVER 20, VERY OBJECTIONABLE TO INTOLERABLE.
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THE EXPERT REPORT ALSO TALKS ABOUT WHAT COMMON DECIBEL LEVELS ARE LIKE.THEY JUST, WE'LL GET BACK TO THAT IN A SECOND.
70 DECIBELS IS AKIN TO HAVING A VACUUM CLEANER IN YOUR HOUSE 10 FEET AWAY OUTSIDE.
IT'S A KID WHO A GAS LAWNMOWER A HUNDRED FEET AWAY.
OKAY? 75 DECIBELS IS LIKE HAVING SOMEBODY YELLING THREE FEET IN FRONT OF YOU.
OKAY? HIS THIS EXPERT THEN USE IS COMPLICATED SHOOTER MODELING.
WHEN YOU GET TO PAGE 14 OF THE REPORT, YOU CAN SEE WHAT HE'S DONE.
HE SAYS, IF YOU HAVE AN OUTDOOR EVENT WITH AMPLIFIED MUSIC, CERTAIN APPROXIMATELY 150 PEOPLE, PEOPLE THAT HAVE PATTY BAR IN THESE LOCATIONS, WHICH IS REALLY, IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR PROPOSED SITE PLAN, THE ONLY PLACE YOU COULD HAVE THIS EVENT, 'CAUSE YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE PARKING LOTS IN ALL THE PARTS THAT ARE FURTHER AWAY FROM THE DALE.
AND IT MEASURES WHAT THE IMPACT IS.
AND IT'S 77 IN THEIR FRONT YARD, 77, WHICH IS LOUDER THAN SOMEBODY YELLING IN YOUR FACE IN THE AREA THAT THEY SIT OUTSIDE THEIR BACK, UH, DINING ROOM AND KITCHEN AT 74.
THAT, THAT SPOT INTERESTINGLY HAD A 40 NORMAL LEVEL OF SOUND.
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A 34 DECIBEL LEVEL INCREASE.
REMEMBER, EVERYTHING OVER 20 IS INTOLERABLE.
OKAY? AT THE BEACHES, YOU'RE HAVING 27 DECIBEL LEVEL INCREASE.
OKAY? I THINK THERE'S A REAL PROBLEM HERE BECAUSE IN THE ORIGINAL SEEKER STATEMENT, THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO, UM, HOLD EVENTS IN THE STRUCTURE.
THEY SAID THEY WERE GONNA HAVE THEIR EVENTS IN THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT OUTDOOR WINE BAR.
THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT BEACH, UH, PERHAPS WEDDINGS ON THE BEACH.
AND AS TIME PASSED, THE PROBLEMS GOT MORE SIGNIFICANT.
THEIR WEBSITE SAYS THEY'RE GONNA HAVE BEACH PARTIES, WEDDING RECEPTIONS AND FOOD AND DRINK FESTIVALS.
BY THE TIME WE GOT TO THE JUNE PLANNING BOARD MEETING, PEOPLE HAD ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW MUCH NOISE THERE WAS.
AND THE RESPONSES WERE THAT THEY WOULD ABIDE BY THE TOWN ZONING ORDINANCE.
NO LONGER WOULD THEY SAY THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE OUTDOOR LIVE MUSIC OR OUTDOOR EVENTS THAT SEEMED TO GO OUT THE WINDOW.
WHAT WAS VERY INTERESTING WAS A STATEMENT THAT SAID, UM, I BELIEVE THAT WAS MS. CASTLE WHO SAID AT THE BOARD PLANNING, BOARD MEETING, MANY OF THE VOTE, MANY OF THE EVENTS WILL NOT BE LOUD OR POLARIZING.
MANY OF THE EVENTS WILL NOT BE LOUD OR POLARIZED.
THAT DOES NOT REASSURE PEOPLE WHO OWN BEAUTIFUL HOMES RIGHT NOW.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE BEAUTIFUL THERE.
IT'S THEIR HOMES, PRIVATE HOMES WHERE THEY'RE ENJOYING, UH, THE, THE BEAUTY OF THE LAKE.
NOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE INTOLERABLE NOISE, BUT NOT AT ALL THE EVENTS.
YOU HAVE TO FIND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT PROBABILITY HERE.
AND WE HAVE TO MOVE TO ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT STAGE.
I WILL ALSO SAY THAT I THINK THIS THING CAN BE JUST REJECTED FROM REZONING ENTIRELY ON THE GROUNDS THAT MIXED USE.
WHAT'S THE MIXED USE HERE? THERE'S NO, IT'S NOT INDUSTRIAL AND RESIDENTIAL.
IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT RECREATIONAL WATER WATERFRONT AND, UM, WAREHOUSE, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
IT'S, THERE'S NO DOUBLE USE HERE.
THAT WHOLE MU ONE APPEARS TO BE WRITTEN TO TAKE AN OLD BUILDING THAT'S NOT BEING PROPERLY USED AND HAVE MULTIPLE PURPOSES FOR IT.
SO FOR INSTANCE, YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME RESIDENTS, YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME OFFICE SPACE, YOU MIGHT HAVE RESTAURANTS ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
WE HAVE ONE STRUCTURE THAT LOT.
I, I THINK THESE PEOPLE QUITE GREAT AND THEY SHOULD HAVE THIS THING.
IT JUST SHOULDN'T BE IN THIS PLACE.
AND IF IT IS GONNA BE IN THIS PLACE, IT HAS TO BE DONE VERY CAREFULLY.
NO WAY WITH A LOT OF CONTROLS.
UH, AND A LOT OF MODIFICATIONS.
ONE OF THE EXPERT REPORT TALKS ABOUT USING A BERM, A FOUR FOOT BERM WITH A SIX FOOT FENCE ON IT.
HOW THAT WOULD REDUCE DECIBEL NOISE TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS BY EIGHT DECIBELS.
IT'S NOT ENOUGH IF YOU DO THAT AND DECIDE WHERE THE EVENTS ARE GONNA BE, RESTRICT OUTDOOR MUSIC.
IT'S POSSIBLE, BUT NOT ON THIS RECORD.
HELLO? UH, MY NAME'S RICH BLO.
UM, I'M THE CURRENT LANDLORD FOR ANN AND NICOLE AT
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ANN NICOLE HAVE BEEN TENANTS MINE FOR FIVE YEARS NOW AND WE'RE JUST REDOING A NEW LEASE FOR THEM TO GO ON FOR ANOTHER FIVE YEARS.I WILL SAY SOMETIMES WE ALWAYS DON'T, UH, GET THE PITCH WHO OUR NEIGHBORS ARE.
BUT I WILL SAY ANN AND NICOLE OVER THE FIVE YEARS HAVE BEEN GREAT.
THEY, THEY RUN A SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS.
WE'VE NEVER RECEIVED NOISE COMPLAINTS.
THERE'S NO FIGHTING, NO COMPLETE, NO, WE DON'T SEE THE POLICE THERE.
YOU KNOW WHAT, THEY'VE BEEN GREAT NEIGHBORS.
THEY TAKE CARE OF THE PROPERTY.
THEY'RE INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY.
I KNOW THEY'RE ON DIFFERENT BOARDS, UM, WITHIN THE VILLAGE.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT? I THINK, UH, HAVING THEM HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE THE BUILDING USE, I WOULD DEFINITELY BE ALL FOR IT.
AND I JUST KNOW THAT IF YOU GO DOWN, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PLACES THAT YOU CAN GET TO THE WATER.
SO I THINK, I THINK HAVING THAT, UH, BUILDING THERE TO BE REZONED AND IF YOU, UH, CAN GET PEOPLE TO JUST GO OUT AND ENJOY OUR WATERFRONT AND THEY KNOW THERE'D JUST BE SOMETHING THERE.
NEW OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE, UH, THE BUILDING FROM THE OLD VIEWS TO THE, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
UM, I'M A RESIDENT AND UM, I JUST WANTED TO, UM, YOU KNOW, EXPRESS MY THOUGHTS ON, ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, I, YOU KNOW, WALKED THE ALCHEMY BUSINESS, GROW AND BRING SUCCESS TO THE COMMUNITY AND HAS BEEN A REALLY STABLE EMPLOYER.
UM, MAKING IT THROUGH EVEN LIKE THE TOUGHEST OF YEARS.
THE PANDEMIC WAS REALLY TOUGH FOR THEM AND THEY SURVIVED THROUGH THAT.
THEY HAVE THE CREATIVITY AND THE ADAPTATION TO MAKE IT WORK.
UM, CHANGE IS NOT EASY, BUT I FEEL LIKE IT'S NECESSARY AND I THINK THAT THIS, UM, SPACE WOULD CREATE SOME BEAUTIFICATION OF OUR SHORELINE.
UM, WHAT'S ONE OF THE MAJOR PERKS FOR LIVING HERE? IT'S LAKE ERIE.
AND, UM, I LOOK FORWARD TO, YOU KNOW, MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO SEE THE WATERFRONT AND I'D MUCH RATHER, UM, SEE A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO ENJOY THAN INDUSTRIAL AREA.
UM, SO I'M IN SUPPORT AND LOOK FORWARD TO, UM, HOPEFULLY THIS PLACE OPENING.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.
I AM FAMILY FRIEND AND HOPEFULLY, UM, A VERY EARLY ENTREPRENEUR.
I HAD THE LUXURY OF BEING AT THIS SPACE, WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS.
THERE IS NO OTHER PLACE LIKE IT IN BUFFALO.
AND TO BE ABLE TO HOST INTIMATE EVENTS SUCH AS WEDDINGS, SHOWERS, WHAT I'M HOPING TO DO IS BRING LUXURY PICNICS TO THE BEACH WITH VERY INTIMATE SETTING.
I THINK IT WOULD BE JUST AN AWE SPACE.
THERE IS NOTHING ELSE LIKE IT.
IT WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO THE COMMUNITY, NOT ONLY BY PROVIDING A SPACE, UNLIKE THE LEATHER, BUT ALSO PROVIDING BUSINESS OWNERS A SPACE TO CONDUCT BUSINESS.
AS YOU KNOW, OUR FIRST SPEAKER SAID IT BRINGS BUSINESS, IT ALLOWS LOCAL PHOTOGRAPHERS, ARTISTS RENDERS, UM, CATERERS, EVERYBODY AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY, TRULY ENJOY THE WATERFRONT.
AND AGAIN, THERE IS NO OTHER SPACE LIKE IT.
THESE LADIES HAVE CREATED A BEAUTIFUL SPACE WITHIN ALCHEMY.
THEY HOST WORKSHOPS, THEY BRING KIDS, THEY HAVE KIDS INVOLVED, THEY HAVE LOCAL EVENTS THAT JUST, AGAIN, NO OTHER SPACE PROVIDES.
AND I, I TALK TO THEM AT LENGTH.
THEY PLAN TO DO THE SAME THING HERE.
JUST PROVIDING A MORE UNIQUE EXPERIENCE 'CAUSE IT IS ON THE WATER.
UM, SO I AM ALL FOR IT AND I REALLY TRULY HOPE THAT IT GETS PASSED AND GET TO IT.
THANK, HELLO, MY NAME'S KEVIN CULLEN.
UM, I AM, UH, I HAVE A MASTER'S IN URBAN REGIONAL PLANNING, SO I'M KIND OF FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS HERE.
MY WIFE'S DOWN AT SUNSET BAY, MICKEY RATS.
WE'VE DONE THAT SUCCESSFULLY DOWN THERE FOR EIGHT YEARS.
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UH, I'D JUST LIKE TO CORRECT THE ATTORNEY THAT, UH, WE ARE LOOKING TO DO MIXED USE THERE AS WE'RE LOOKING TO BE A POTENTIAL TENANT THERE.SO WE'RE GONNA BE OFFERING PADDLEBOARDING, KAYAKING, NATURE TOURS AND KITEBOARDING LESSONS.
UM, I DON'T THINK MANY PEOPLE KNOW THIS, BUT WE LIVE IN A WORLD CLASS WIND SPORTS AREA.
UH, I GET TYPE BOARDING STUDENTS FROM COLUMBUS, OHIO, PHILADELPHIA.
LAST WEEK ALONE, I HAD A STUDENT FROM FRANCE AND NORWAY.
SO WE LITERALLY HAVE A WORLD CLASS WIND RESOURCE RIGHT HERE.
AND, UM, THIS IS BIG BUSINESS.
I SPENT THREE YEARS TEACHING HEADQUARTER AND PADDLING SURFING IN HAWAII.
AND IT'S THEIR MAIN INDUSTRY THERE.
WE HAVE ALL THE SAME RESOURCES HERE.
WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY AND THE EQUIPMENT TO GET PEOPLE OUT IN THE COLDER SEASONS TRYING TO RECTIFY HOW TO USE MORE THAN JUST SUMMER TO GET PEOPLE OUTSIDE.
UM, HOW DO WE GET VISITORS FROM NIAGARA FALLS DOWN INTO HAMBURG? THERE'S 2 MILLION VISITORS EVERY YEAR COME TO NIAGARA FALLS AND THEY WANNA COME DOWN HERE.
THEY WANNA STAY IN THE AREA LONGER.
SO THIS IS A PHENOMENAL OPPORTUNITY THROUGH THE REZONING TO ALLOW US TO BE THERE, ESSENTIALLY TO BE A TENANT, TO BE MIXED USE ON THE SITE.
UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE COMPLIMENT THE BACHELOR PARTIES, BACHELORETTE PARTIES.
WE BRING IN KAYAKS, PADDLES, NATURE TOURS.
WE'RE GIVING PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPERIENCE NATURE SO WE CAN PROTECT IT AND LOVE IT, YOU KNOW, AND HAMBURG HAS A WORLD CLASS WATERFRONT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S WORLD CLASS WATERFRONT, PHENOMENAL SUNSETS.
I'VE TRAVELED ALL OVER THE WORLD AND I LIVE HERE EVERY SUMMER.
AND AS A PLANNER, THE BUFFALO WESTERN NEW YORK, HAMBURG HAVE MADE A LOT OF MISTAKES WITH INDUSTRY.
THERE'S A REASON PEOPLE ARE WEIRD OF INDUSTRY.
AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BECOME MIXED USE TO BECOME MORE FORWARD THINKING AND TO ALLOW A MULTITUDE OF BUSINESSES TO TAKE PLACE THERE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE STREET.
OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE CONCERNS AND WE HAVE UTMOST RESPECT FOR THOSE CONCERNS.
SO THINGS DO NEED TO BE PLANNED ACCORDINGLY.
THEY NEED TO BE PLANNED SMARTLY.
BUT I FEEL LIKE WITH PROPER PLANNING, WITH PROPER FORESIGHT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO CREATE A SPACE THAT MAKES EVERYONE HAPPY AND CONTINUES TO MAKE EVERYONE BE NEXT NEIGHBORS.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A COMMUNITY AND YOU KNOW, I WANT TO BE A TENANT AND I WANNA BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR TO THE OTHER NEIGHBORS.
AND I KNOW OUR PARTNERS IN THIS PROJECT TOO AS WELL.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HOPE THAT YOU DO REONE THIS INTO MIXED USE AND WE CAN RETHINK WESTERN NEW YORK'S WATER.
HI, MY NAME IS LEBRON AND I RESIDE AT 3 7 8 4 HOOVER ROAD.
I'VE BEEN THERE FOR 35 PLUS YEARS.
I OWN A THRIVING BUSINESS AND WAREHOUSE IN THE VILLAGE OF HAMMER FOR 27 YEARS.
MY BUSINESS EMPLOYEES 25 PLUS PEOPLE.
I AM ACTIVE IN MY COMMUNITY, BOTH PHYSICALLY AND FINANCIALLY.
I PAY MY TAXES ON TIME, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, I VOTE HERE TOO.
I STAND BEFORE YOU NOW BECAUSE NOW I NEED YOUR HELP.
I NEED MY TOWN TO CONSIDER MY QUALITY OF LIFE WITH A BAR COWBOY UP OPENING THAT DOS AND THE PROPOSED LAKE, UH, OR 37 80 ALCHEMY, WHATEVER IT'S CALLED IS BEING PUT BEFORE YOU.
YOU NEED TO CONSIDER WHAT ADDING ANOTHER BAR WITHIN THIS TINY STRETCH OF RESIDENTIAL HOMES WILL DUE TO OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.
BECAUSE I NEED TO REMIND YOU, THIS IS 90% A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
AND I WANT EVERYONE WHO STOOD HERE BEFORE HERE SAYING THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE SO GREAT.
THEY'RE CHARACTER, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT ASSASSINATING THEIR CHARACTER.
I SAY TO ALL OF YOU HERE AND EVERYONE THAT'S ALL BACK HERE, IF THIS WAS LESS THAN THREE FEET, FIVE FEET, 10 FEET FROM YOUR HOMES, YOU'D BE UP HERE DOING THE SAME THING WE'RE DOING.
FIGHTING FOR A QUALITY OF LIFE, TWO BARS BEING SANDWICHED IN.
WHAT KIND OF LIFE IS THAT? OKAY, I GOTTA GET YOU THREE MINUTES.
UM, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD SOUND LIKE? THE NOR OR THE NOISE ORDINANCE RULES FOR THE TOWN OF HAMBURG ARE VAIN, UNENFORCEABLE, AND OUTDATED WHILE THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURG HAS PARAGRAPHS AFTER PARAGRAPHS OF NOISE ORDINANCE RULES US WHO
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LIVE OUTSIDE THE VILLAGE ARE FORCED TO FIGHT USING THESE ARBITRARY GUIDELINES FROM THE TOWN RULES.SINCE THIS FIGHT IS FIRST OF ITS KIND, THE M TWO, YOU THE TOWN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE IT RIGHT IT AND MAKE IT WORK FOR EVERYONE FROM THE BUSINESS OWNERS TO THE NEIGHBORS.
SO I URGE YOU NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT UNTIL YOU CAN UPDATE AND PROTECT US TOWN FOLKS FROM THE UNBEARABLE IDEA OF TWO BARS WITHIN A HUNDRED FEET OF, OF THE HOME I LIVE IN.
WHEN I REVIEWED THE MU ONE ZONING STA STATUS ALLOWABLE BUSINESS THAT CAN BE REPLACED THERE, I DECIDED TO CONDUCT MY OWN SURVEY.
I I ASKED 30 PEOPLE OUT OF ALL THE 25 THINGS THAT YOU WROTE IN THIS MU TWO, WHAT ONE THING DO YOU NOT, WOULD YOU WANT NOT WANNA LIVE NEXT TO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF 'EM PICKED RESTAURANT, BAR, SOCIAL CLUB.
WHY IS THAT NOISE? THIS PROPOSED PROJECT IS THREE FEET AWAY FROM MY NEIGHBORS AND LESS THAN 50 FEET FROM MY HOME.
IF THIS PROJECT WAS BEING PUT THREE FEET FROM YOUR HOMES, YOU'D BE UP HERE FIGHTING.
I'D TELL YOU THAT I SAID IT AGAIN.
ALSO, IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT NOWHERE IN THE MU ONE DOESN'T ALLOW FOR AN EVENT CENTER.
WHAT IS AN EVENT EVERY DAY I GET UP? IS THAT AN EVENT? ALSO, AS MANY OF YOU ON THIS BOARD HAVE NOTICED, I HAVE BEEN TO A LOT OF THESE MEETINGS AND I'M DOING MY BEST TO INFORM MYSELF ON THE PROPER PROCEDURE IN FINDING THE BEST WAY TO ADDRESS YOU.
I HAVE TAKEN A LOT OF MY PERSONAL TIME AWAY FROM MY FAMILY AND MY BUSINESS TO COME TO THESE MEETINGS SO I KNOW HOW TO FIGHT FOR WHAT I BELIEVE IS RIGHT.
SO IMAGINE THE PUNCH IN THE GUT.
I FELT WHEN I SAW ONE OF THE OWNERS OF THE ALCHEMY ON, ON THE TV ON JUNE 26TH TO STATE THAT THEY'RE SEMI OPEN NOW, BUT THEY'LL BE FULLY OPEN AT THE END OF FALL.
IT SEEMS THAT THEY MUST KNOW SOMETHING THAT I DON'T KNOW OR MAYBE SOMETHING YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW.
TO SEE THEM ON TV WAS, WAS MAKING, MAKING A STATEMENT LIKE THAT IS A SLAP IN MY FACE.
AND WHEN, WHEN WE HAVE ALL BEEN WORKING SO HARD TO DO THIS RIGHT, WE NEVER CLAIMED, UM, VICTORY NOT OVER UNTIL THE FAT LADY SINGS AND I SINGING YET.
ARE YOU, ARE THEY GONNA FOLLOW THE LAW? THOSE ARE THE KIND OF NEIGHBORS I WANT.
I'M STANDING BEFORE YOU TO URGE, IF NOT BEG FOR YOU TO TAKE THE PLANNING BOARDS NUMEROUS, NUMEROUS PAGES OF THEIR RECOMMENDATION SERIOUSLY.
SERIOUS CONDITIONS AND LAWS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR NOISE POLLUTION IN ALL FORMS AND HOW THEY DIRECTLY IMPACT THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THOSE THAT LIVE THREE FEET FROM THIS BAR, EVENT SPACE, FLOWER SHOP KIT, SURFING, STORAGE RESTAURANT, WHATEVER WE'RE CALLING IT TODAY.
YOU CANNOT IN GOOD CONSCIENCE GO FORWARD WITH THIS PROPOSED REZONING WITHOUT ADDRESSING THOSE NUMEROUS THINGS FROM THE PLA FROM YOUR OWN PLANNING BOARD AND FROM US CON CONTINGENCIES CONTINUE TO WHATEVER NEED TO BE MADE FOR THE MU ONE.
I, I TOO AM NOT, UM, HERE TO CRITICIZE ANYONE'S CHARACTERS BECAUSE I'M SURE ALL OF US NEIGHBORS WORK PRETTY GOOD PEOPLE TOO.
AND I'M SURE YOU THE
IT'S NOT ABOUT OUR CHARACTERS, IT'S NOT ABOUT HOW NICE WE ARE AND HOW WELL WE'VE BEEN IN THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE I DON'T DIS I DON'T DISCOUNT THAT.
YOU CAN'T EXPECT TO PUT A BANDSTAND FOR CONCERTS AND EVENTS IN ANYONE'S BACKYARD AND EXPECT A WELCOME RED CARPET ARRIVAL.
I MEAN, AN EVENT CENTER SOUNDS LIKE A REALLY HAPPY COMMUNITY, FRIENDLY, GREAT PLACE TO GO.
ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT WANTED SOME LEAVES.
IF IT'S NOT IN YOUR BACKYARD, MY NAME, EVERYONE IN HAMBURG, THIS SOUNDS GREAT TO EVERYONE EXCEPT FOR THOSE US, THE ONES THAT ARE THE BACKYARD
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US.I DROVE THE DAY I WROTE THIS, I DROVE THROUGH ORCHARD PARK ON MY DAILY C COMMUTE TO EAST AURORA FOR INDOOR YOGA.
'CAUSE REAL YOGA GOES YOGA THROUGH INDOOR YOGA,
UM, AND I WENT THERE AND I SEE THIS BIG SIGN ON ALL THROUGHOUT ORCHARD PARK.
THEY'RE HAVING A, A CLASS REUNION FOR ALL ORCHARD PARK CLASS GRADUATES AND THEY'RE HAVING IT AT THE WING CENTER.
SO I LOOKED AT THEM, I SAID, THAT'S AN EVENT.
AND IT'S CERTAINLY NOT ONE THAT I'VE GONE IN MY BACKYARD, BUT I RESPECT ORCHARD PARK BECAUSE THE WING CENTER IS NOT IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
IT IS A GREAT LOCATION FOR AN EVENT OF, OF MULTIPLE CLASS REUNIONS.
THEN ON THE SAME DAY I HEARD A RADIO AD THAT TALKED ABOUT AN EVENT HAPPENING AT THE MAYER BROTHERS SAWER HOUSE.
AND GEEZ, I REMEMBER GOING THERE WHEN I WAS A KID.
I HAD DONUTS AND, AND AND CIDER AND THAT WAS GREAT.
NO OUTDOOR VANS THOUGH, NO AMPLIFIED MUSIC.
IT WAS A FAMILY FRIENDLY EVENT.
AND I SAID, YEAH, I DO REMEMBER THAT TYPE OF EVENT BEING GREAT.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT A WEDDING EVENT.
I'VE NEVER BEEN TO A REAL QUIET ONE.
OKAY? I HAVE NEVER BEEN TO ONE WHERE WE ALL SIT QUIETLY AND THERE'S NO AMPLIFIED MUSIC AND THERE'S NO LOUD BAND.
AND IT'S A PRETTY CLEAR AND DEBATE INDICATION TO ME THAT THE NEW OWNERS INTEND TO AMPLIFY LOUD PARTY STYLE OUTDOOR MUSIC IN THE FORM OF DJS AND LIVE BANDS.
AND I KNOW THAT BECAUSE WHEN THEY RESPONDED TO THE JUNE 21ST MEETING, THEY SIMPLY SAID, SIMPLY SAID, WE WILL COMPLY WITH HAMMERED NOISE.
ORDINANCE NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT WE WILL PROTECT FACEBOOK CHARACTER.
PEOPLE NEVER SAID THEY'RE GONNA PROTECT THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE FROM THEIR GOINGS POLLUTION.
THEY SIMPLY SAID THEY WILL COMPLY WITH NOISE ORDINANCE.
SO THEY'RE PUTTING IT IN YOUR HANDS TO MAKE THEM COMPLY.
'CAUSE IF YOU DON'T, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE AMPLIFIED OUTDOOR MUSIC AND AN EVENT.
IN MY OPINION, I COULD HAVE A MONDAY EVENT, A TUESDAY EVENT, WEDNESDAY EVENT, OR A, I WANNA HAVE A, THIS IS THE COWBOY BAND EVENT.
WE ARE GONNA BE SUCTIONED IN BETWEEN TWO BARS, THE COWBOY BAR AND THIS EVENT CENTER.
I'VE BEEN THERE FOR OVER 30 YEARS.
AND I SAY THE SAME THING AS LYNN, PROTECT US.
I KNOW THAT YOU'RE VERY AWARE OF THE MENTAL STATE THAT A PERSON COULD GET TO WHEN THEY HEAR BASS MUSIC PLAYING EVERY NIGHT SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
AND I KNOW THAT BECAUSE I'VE EXPERIENCED THAT.
DEBA WAS THERE, IT WAS EVERY NIGHT, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
THEY STARTED AT SIX AND ENDED AT 11.
AND THERE WAS NOTHING I COULD DO.
YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE THEY WERE THERE FIRST THIS TIME.
I'M HERE FIRST AND I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SAY THAT AGAIN.
IF YOU LET THEM GO AND HAVE THESE AMPLIFIED MUSIC, BECAUSE I COULD BE THE PERSON FRANCINE GLEER IN THE FUTURE WHO CAN STAND HERE AND GUESS WHAT? THEY'VE BEEN THERE.
AND THERE IS NO ARGUMENT FOR THE FUTURE GENERATIONS THAT WILL INHABIT OUR RESIDENTIAL HOMES.
SO I'M HERE TO PROTECT NOT ONLY ME AND MY SANITY, BUT ALSO THOSE THAT COME AFTER ME, INCLUDING MY, MY CHILDREN, MY HEIRS.
THAT WE WORKED REALLY HARD TO BUILD UP OUR LITTLE COTTAGE THAT WE BOUGHT A LITTLE TINY LITTLE COTTAGE THAT WAS JUST A HOME'S SECOND HOME.
THIS IS MY 100% RESIDENTIAL HOME THAT I'M IN EVERY SINGLE DAY.
SO LEAVE IT BECAUSE IT WAS A WEDDING THAT NIGHT.
UM, AND JUST ONE MORE THING BEFORE I ASK.
THERE WAS A GUY THAT LIVED NEXT TO, UM, THE AVANTI MANCHIN WHO HAD PTSD AND WE ALL READ IT IN THE PAPER.
AND HE, HE, HE SNAPPED BECAUSE HE THEN ONE NIGHT HAD TO RETALIATE BECAUSE WHEN YOU HEAR ABOUT MUSIC DAY AFTER DAY AND NIGHT AFTER NIGHT, AND IT JUST, YOU AND IN HIS CASE IT WAS FIREWORKS.
AND I THINK THAT MAYBE I HAVE PTSD FROM DR.
THE BAY DAYS BECAUSE THAT'S WHY I'M SO PASSIONATE.
I DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN AGAIN.
AND IT IS GONNA HAPPEN WITH COWBOY BAR.
BUT IF I CAN STOP IT FROM HAPPENING ON THE OTHER SIDE, 'CAUSE LITERALLY THEY ARE BOOKMARKS.
WE ARE IN BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM.
I, I, I URGE ANY OF YOU TO COME OUT AND SEE HOW MUCH ROOM IS AM HOW MUCH AREA.
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THAT KNOWS HOW MANY ACRES IT IS OR HOW MANY FEET OR HOW MANY YARD.BUT IT IS A STONE THROW THERE AND A STONE THROW THERE IN BETWEEN US.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO HIM, BUT HE PUT A WOOD CHIPPER ON ONE NIGHT TO RETALIATE AND HE GOT ARRESTED FOR IT.
DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM SINCE.
TRIED TO FIND HIM WHEN I DID MY RESEARCH.
I CAN, I'M PETER RESMAN, 37 92 GURU ROAD, FRANCINE'S HUSBAND.
BEEN LIVING THERE FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS.
I GOT A QUESTION JUST FROM BEING AT THIS BOARD MEETING, YOU'RE CHANGING AN INDUSTRIAL ZONING SOMEPLACE ELSE BECAUSE THE RESIDENT TO RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE YOU FELT IT MORE APPROPRIATE, RIGHT? WASN'T THAT YOUR ZONE FIVE, YOUR BEING FIVE HOOVER ROAD IS, WAIT, HOOVER ROAD IS 95% RESIDENTIAL.
WHY WASN'T THAT CONSIDERED DOCK IN THE BAY? THE OWNERS' ELK OKAY, WAS BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD.
THEY WERE GONNA PUT TOWNHOUSES THERE, THERE WERE BAILING ON THE DOCK, ON THE BAR.
THEY WERE PLANNING ON PUTTING TOWNHOUSES THERE.
WHY WOULDN'T, WASN'T THAT A BETTER OPTION FOR THIS PROPERTY THAN INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY? INSTEAD OF TRYING TO SANDWICH MORE NOISE, MORE MUSIC, MORE BUSINESS, MORE TRAFFIC ON IT ROAD.
THAT'S JUST FOR ME FROM RIGHT NOW, FROM HEARING YOU PEOPLE TALK, THIS TOWN BOARD IS ALREADY AWARE OF OUR CHALLENGES RAISED AROUND THE ZONING BOARD OF MU ONE IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT MU ONES CREATED FOR A NEW STATE ART CODE TO ALIGN TO THE CHANGE IN WATERFRONT STRATEGIES.
FIRST TIME THE ZONING IS APPROVED BY THE TOM BOARD.
HAMMER WRITTEN GOOD INTENTION WILL LACKS SUFFICIENT LIKE EVERY WATERFRONT.
CONSIDERATIONS DOES NOT SUFFICIENTLY DEFINE WHEN EVENT IS AND EVENT BE OPERATED IN A FASHION AS A RESTAURANT BAR EFFECTIVELY COULD EVERY TIME A GATHERING BE LABELED IN EVENTS TODAY, THE TUESDAY EVENT WILL EXPOSE US TO BAND OUR MUSIC ALL NIGHT, ALL HOURS.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE ALREADY GONNA HAVE TO CONTEND WITH THE CONWAY BY REOPENING.
I ATTENDED THE JUNE 27TH SECOND PLANNING BOARD MEETING, AND THE PLAN WERE ACCESS REQUEST TO CODE CHANGE DURING THE SESSION.
IT BECAME A HUNDRED PERCENT APPARENT TO ALL THAT THE CODE CURRENTLY WRITTEN IS FLAW MADE.
DISCREPANCIES WERE CALLED OUT RAISED AND DISCUSSED BY THE BOARD MEMBERS.
ULTIMATELY, IT WAS DETERMINED THESE APPOINTED OFFICIALS THAT BECAUSE THE CODE WAS EFFECT AUTHORED BY THE SAME PLANNING BOARD, THEY WERE QUESTIONING YOUR OWN WORK, SO TO SPEAK.
THERE WAS A CONCERN THAT THE NEW ONE WOULD PUT THEIR TIME, SPEAK ABOUT THE DELAY.
THEM, BELIEVE ME, THEY RECEIVED A 10 YEAR TAX BREAK.
THEREFORE, WE NEED TO MAKE THIS RIGHT REGARDLESS OF HOW LONG IT TAKES, HOW NEGATIVELY IMPACTED, I UNDERSTAND MOVING FORWARD THIS PREMISE, EXPOSE NEIGHBORHOODS AND FLAWS AND CODE.
HOW CAN WE DID NOT CONDUCT SUFFICIENT HOMEWORK PRIOR TO PURCHASING THIS PROPERTY.
THEREFORE, THIS TIME DELAY IS A PRICE THEY PAY.
IT ALSO COSTS US MUCH TIME SAVING MONEY.
ALSO, RIGHT NOW WE'RE BEING THREATENED BY BOTH ENDS.
HOW BUYER IS COMING AT THE SAME TIME.
ALCHEMY IS PLANNING AND DEFENSE CENTER.
WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE TWO POINT OF ARRIVALS.
WE'VE ALREADY AUR ALL THESE CHANGES THAT INCLUDED OUR ROUTE FEDEXS ACROSS THE STREET ROAD CONFIGURATION LOG WITH THEIR TRAFFIC, NEW BREW ACROSS THERE, AMAZON SITE THAT'S ABANDONED DOING GARBAGE.
THERE SEEMS TO BE AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN SOMEONE IN THIS TOWN THAT THIS WAS A GREAT IDEA WITHOUT ANY CONCERNS FOR RESIDENTS.
SOMEONE TOLD 'EM THEY COULD DO THIS.
THEY DIDN'T JUST BUY A PIECE OF PROPERTY WITHOUT SOMEONE SAYING, OH, IT WON'T WORK.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE, HOW MANY ONE COMES FROM.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS ALL COMES FROM, BUT BASICALLY YOU'RE SLAPPING US IN THE FACE, YOU'RE GIVING DISREGARD TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE, WHICH WHOEVER TOLD THIS IS A GREAT IDEA, GREAT FOR YOU.
WHEN WE LIVE THERE, WE SHOULD BE RESPECTED CHELSEA.
WE'RE NOT SWAPPING OUR JAMES O YEAH, JAMES O CHELSEA.
OH, MY NAME IS JAMES O'SHAUGHNESSY.
SO WE'VE HEARD A LOT TODAY ABOUT THE, UH,
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THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES, HAMBURG'S GUIDING PRINCIPLES MOVING FORWARD.AND THESE WERE DEVELOPED AS A RESULT OF A SURVEY THAT WENT OUT IN 2021 TO THE, THE HAMBURG RESIDENTS AND CREATED THESE, THESE GUIDING PRINCIPLES THAT HAMBURG SHOULD CONSIDER WHEN THEY'RE DEVELOPING.
I WANNA TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OF THESE RIGHT NOW, UH, IN, IN LIKE THE LIGHT OF SHORES.
SO THE, THE FIRST BULLET HERE, THE FIRST GUIDING PRINCIPLE IS THE IDEA OF CULTIVATING, PROTECTING OUR STRONG AND HEALTHY NEIGHBORHOODS AND HAMLETS.
WELL, RIGHT NOW, THE SOUNDS OF IT, FROM WHAT I'M SURE YOU'VE HEARD OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MEETINGS, THERE'S A VERY STRONG SENSE OF NEIGHBORHOOD THERE.
NEIGHBORHOOD THERE IS VERY HEALTHY.
AND INTRODUCING AN EVENT CENTER AND HOW OPEN-ENDED THAT DEFINITION IS AND THAT REAL CONSIDERATION FOR THE KINDS OF EVENTS AND THE DISRUPTION THAT THAT CAN CAUSE TO THAT HEALTHY NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT CERTAINLY MAKE UN UH, THERE'S ANOTHER GUIDING PRINCIPLE IN THERE THAT WE'LL PROTECT AND ENHANCE OUR ENVIRONMENTAL ASSETS.
AND I THINK EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM WOULD AGREE THAT LAKE HERE IS PROBABLY THE GREATEST ENVIRONMENTAL ASSET WE HAVE IN THE TOWN.
BUT WITH THAT ASSET AND WITH THIS NOTION THAT WE WANNA PROTECT AND ENHANCE IT, THERE'S A VERY REAL RESPONSIBILITY TO ACTUALLY DELIVER ON THOSE WORDS.
AND AN EVENT CENTER, AGAIN, THAT HAS AN OPEN-ENDED DEFINITION OF WHAT CONSTITUTED EVENTS WITH A VERY VAGUE SENSE OF HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN BE THERE AND THE NOISE POLLUTION, THE ACTUAL POLLUTION TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH THE AREA.
CAN YOU REALLY GUARANTEE THAT THAT IS ACTUALLY GONNA PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT, THE ENVIRONMENT IN THAT AREA THAT THAT PROPERTY SITS ON AND THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND IT.
AND THEN THERE'S A THIRD, THIRD GUIDING PRINCIPLE HERE THAT, UH, ABOUT HELPING AND ENCOURAGING A STRONG ECONOMIC BASE THAT LEADS TO A SUSTAINABLE FUTURE.
NOW, WE'VE HEARD, YOU KNOW, FROM SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, ALCHEMY AS A COMPANY ARE CERTAINLY A STRONG COMPANY.
IT CERTAINLY CONTRIBUTES TO LOCAL ECONOMY.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD DISAGREE WITH THAT.
AND THERE'S A KEY WORD IN THAT GUIDING PRINCIPLE, AND IT'S ABOUT A SUSTAINABLE FUTURE.
AND JUST GOING THROUGH AND DEVELOPING AND CHANGING ZONING AND, YOU KNOW, CHANGING FROM INDUSTRIAL TO, AGAIN, MIXED USE IN EVENT CENTER, OPEN-ENDED, YOU KNOW, JUST FOR THE SAKE OF DEVELOPMENT ISN'T NECESSARILY SUSTAINABLE.
YOU KNOW, IT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN A THOUGHTFUL APPROACH TO CONSIDERATION FOR THE ENVIRONMENT, CONSIDER FOR THE RESIDENT, CONSIDERATION FOR THE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE BEEN THERE FOR DECADES.
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED.
UH, THE RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, LIKE EVERYBODY HERE KNOWS, THEY'VE APPROACHED THE TOWN MANY TIMES RECENTLY ABOUT CONCERNS ABOUT THE EXISTING NOISE ORDINANCE AND THAT IT LACKS LIMITATION OF THAT LEVELS.
WE HEARD FROM THE ATTORNEY EARLIER ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW YOU CAN USE FESTIVAL LEVELS TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THE IMPACTS THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, SO THE EXISTING TOWN CODE, YOU KNOW, IT IT VERY VAGUE, VERY UNSPECIFIC.
UH, IT GOES THROUGH AND TALKS ABOUT HOW THE CREATION OF ANY UNNECESSARY AND UNREASONABLY LOUD OR WHAT'S UNREASONABLY LOUD DISTURB NOISES OF PUBLIC NUISANCE.
A WEDDING THREE FEET FROM YOUR HOME IS PROBABLY UNREASONABLY LOUD.
THE NOISE OF SUCH CHARACTER INTENSITY DURATION IS TO BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE LIFE.
HEALTH OR WELFARE OF THE HABITANTS IS PROHIBITED AS PUBLIC NUISANCE.
YOU KNOW, YET AGAIN, A WEDDING AT, YOU KNOW, 10:11 PM THREE FEET FROM YOUR HOUSE PROBABLY GONNA BE, UH, DETRIMENTAL TO YOUR WELFARE.
AND THEN THERE'S, THERE'S ANOTHER BULLET HERE IN THE TOWN CODE THAT GOES ON TO SLEEP.
DISTURBING NOISES ARE PROHIBITED FROM 11:00 PM TO 7:00 AM BUT AGAIN, THERE'S NOTHING HERE ABOUT, UH, AND, AND YOU KNOW, I'LL WRAP UP HERE JUST BY SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SAY THAT THAT NOISE THAT PRODUCES A NUISANCE, YOU KNOW, IS UNREASONABLE AND, UH, CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, IT, IT SHOULD BE PROHIBITED, DETRIMENTAL TO HEALTH.
AND WE HEARD THAT HAVING A LARGE EVENT THREE FEET FROM YOUR HOUSE IS THE EQUIVALENT OF HAVING SOMEBODY SCREAMING THREE FEET IN FRONT OF AND HAVING THAT GO ON FOR HOURS AND HOURS CERTAINLY SOUNDS.
UM, MY NAME'S CHELSEA P UM, I'M A 30
AND I THINK THE BIGGEST THING OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE HEARING OVER AND OVER
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FROM MY FAMILY AND NEIGHBORS IS THE NOISE, RIGHT? SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CONSIDERATIONS TO THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA.UM, THINGS TO CONSIDER FOR US.
UM, NO OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED MUSIC BY BANDS.
YOU KNOW, I GREW UP NEXT DOOR, A DOCK AT THE BAY WHEN I WAS A KID AND I REMEMBER
YEAH, 15 MINUTES BECAUSE THE BANDS ON BREAK FROM NINE 15 TO NINE 30, YOU HAD 15 MINUTES.
IF NOT SLEEPING BEFORE THEN YOU'RE NOT GONNA SLEEP TILL 1130 AT NIGHT.
UM, IT WAS TRUE AND IT WASN'T EVEN THAT, IT WAS THE TRAFFIC.
SO AFTER THE BAND'S OVER, YOU HAVE THE MOTORCYCLES SIPPING DOWN THE ROAD.
YOU HAVE THE CARS, THOSE STUPID BACKFIRES SIPPING DOWN THE ROAD.
UM, AS A THIRD GRADER, YOU KNOW, YOUR KID, YOU WANNA SLEEP AND GO TO SCHOOL AND HOPEFULLY GET GOOD GRADES, YOU KNOW, SO IT WAS ROUGH.
UM, SOMETHING ELSE IS FIREWORKS, RIGHT? SO FIREWORKS, LIKE LOUD MUSIC, LOUD DISRUPTIVE, UM, HORRIBLE FOR WILDLIFE, THE ANIMALS, THE RESIDENTS, RIGHT? UM, NOISE BARRIERS, RIGHT? SO NOISE BARRIERS ARE GREAT.
UM, SOUND WALLS, NOISE WALLS, SOUND BEAMS, SOUND BARRIERS, ACOUSTIC BARRIERS, ALL THAT STUFF TO REALLY KIND OF HELP MAKE THE NOISE LESS, I GUESS THEY HAD MORE TO POTENTIALLY FOR THE NEIGHBORS IN THE AREA.
UM, WHAT ELSE? THE UBER REEFS, RESIDENTS HERE ARE THREATENED FOR SANDWICH BETWEEN TWO COMPETING NIGHTCLUB RESTAURANT BARS, CONCERT HALLS, EVENT CENTERS.
EITHER WAY, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL 'EM, THEY'RE ALL THE SAME.
IT'S ALL LOUD NOISE AND THAT'S THE BIGGEST CONCERN FOR US.
UM, AGAIN, I LIVED THERE SINCE 1997, THE THIRD GRADER, UM, AND I HAVE THE RIGHT SETTING OF BUSINESS.
OWNER HAS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE TO LIVE THERE, PEACE AND QUIET, UM, ESPECIALLY AT NIGHTTIME.
JUST THE CONCERN FOR ME AFTER GROWING UP THERE FOR SO LONG.
SO, UM, I MOVED IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD WITH NATIONAL NEIGHBORS.
IT WAS PEACEFUL, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE DONE AT 5:00 PM WE ONLY HAD ONE BAND AND NOW WE'RE PUTTING TWO POTENTIALLY NEXT DOOR TO US, WHICH IS WILD.
UM, I, I CAN SEE WHERE THE HAMBURG LAKESHORE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE HAS DISSOLVED, RIGHT? WHEN FIVE NEIGHBORS CHARGED IN WITH ALL THIS INFORMATION, THE COMMITTEE WAS CONDUCTING ACTIVITIES WITHOUT CHECKING IN WITH THE TOWN OF HAMBURG TAXPAYERS WHO WE MOST IMPACTED WITH THE DEVELOPMENTAL PLANS.
UM, WHEN WE SHOWED UP AT THE TABLE KIND OF COMING TO MEETINGS, THE COMMITTEE SUDDENLY DISSOLVED THIS ACTION WITH OTHERS THAT WE HAVE STUMBLED UPON.
UM, AGAIN, I THINK WE ALL KIND OF TOUCHED ON THIS, UM, THE CONCERN FOR US IS THE BIG DEFINITION OF EVENT CENTER.
WHAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN? RIGHT? SO THROUGH MOST EVENTS LIKE WEDDING RECEPTIONS, BEACH PARTIES, FOOD AND DRINK FESTIVALS, HOLIDAY MARKETS, CRAFT CLASSES MUCH MORE.
YEAH, A LOT OF THOSE DO SOUND QUIET AND PEACEFUL AND GREAT FOR THE COMMUNITY, BUT NOT ALL OF THEM TO THE NEIGHBORS.
UM, WE USUALLY TRANSLATE THIS SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE AN EVERY DAY OUTDOOR BEACH PARTY ATMOSPHERE, POTENTIALLY TURNING INTO A MIU RATS OR CAPTAIN KIDS BACK IN THE DAY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT REALLY MEANS, UM, BUT I FORESEE NO VOLLEYBALL TOURNAMENTS WITH LOUD BANDS.
LOTS OF GREAT CONSUMERS, UM, PRETTY MUCH BRING POTENTIALLY A BAR AND NIGHT CLUB AT NIGHT.
UM, AGAIN, WHAT DOES EVENTS REALLY MEAN FOR US? HOW FREQUENTLY ARE THEY GONNA HAPPEN? SO I THINK THERE JUST NEEDS TO BE OVERALL MORE LOOK INTO WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON NEXT DOOR.
I'M A HOMEOWNER ON NORTH SHORE.
UH, I HAVE A LETTER FROM MR. INC.
HE'S A RESIDENT AND HOMEOWNER ON MID SHORE, BUT UNABLE TO ATTEND THE MEETING.
I'LL READ HIS LETTER VERBATIM.
IT'S DATED JULY 8TH, 2023 TO WHOM IT MADE CONCERN REGARDING HOMESTEAD NEIGHBOR'S RELATIONSHIP WITH ALCHEMY SHORES.
I WAS ASKED BY MARGARET VAN DALE TO PROVIDE COMMENT ON THE PROPOSED ALCHEMY SHORES BUSINESS ON HOOVER ROAD.
I HAVE THE FOLLOWING THOUGHTS.
THE BUSINESS MODEL AS PRESENTED TO THE LWRP COMMITTEE IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR COASTAL CONSISTENCY REVIEW AS A WATER ENHANCED BUSINESS, ALCHEMY SHORES HAS THE RIGHT AND RESPONSIBILITY TO OPERATE IN COMPLIANCE WITH ZONING AND COMMUNITY LAWS AND REGULATIONS.
THE NEIGHBORING HOMEOWNERS HAVE THE RIGHT TO QUIET ENJOYMENT OF THEIR HOMES.
ONE KEY ISSUE OF CONCERN TO THE NEIGHBORS IS NOISE.
THE OPERATION OF THE BUSINESS MAY INCLUDE OUTDOOR MUSIC, WHICH IS LEGITIMATELY A HUGE CONCERN TO THE NEIGHBORS.
THE LOCAL NOISE REGULATIONS MAY NEED TO BE REVIEWED AND CERTAINLY MUST BE FOLLOWED.
SOME OTHER HISTORICAL ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH OUTDOOR BANQUET FACILITIES WILL ALSO REQUIRE PROACTIVE PLANNING TO MINIMIZE OR PREVENT, INCLUDING TRESPASSING, VANDALISM, PUBLIC INTOXICATION, PUBLIC AND ADDITIONAL CONCERNS TO THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS INCLUDE FUTURE BUILDING RENOVATIONS THAT MAY FEATURE KITCHEN MODIFICATIONS REGARDING EXHAUST FAN LOCATION AND LIQUID KITCHEN
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EFFLUENT THAT MAY INCLUDE GREASE.ALCHEMY SHORES APPEARS TO HAVE HOSTED SEVERAL EVENTS ON THE PROPERTY THAT MAY NOT BE COMPLIANT WITH THE EXISTING ZONING.
IF THIS IS THE CASE, TRUSTING THE, THE BUSINESS TO VOLUNTARILY COMPLY MAY BE WISHFUL THINKING.
SIGNED HANK FELDER MID SHORE DRIVE, HAMBURG.
AND NOW IF I MAY, I I HAVE AN, UH, A NOTE OF MY OWN.
SO AGAIN, UH, MY NAME IS PAUL DOHERTY.
I'M A HOMEOWNER ON NORTH SHORE, WHICH IS THE SAME HOOVER BEACH NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, THIS IS MY NOTES TO THE BOARD.
DEAR UH, BERT TOM, BOARD MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO DOCUMENT SOME OF MY CONCERNS REGARDING THE PROPOSED PARTY BANQUET BUSINESS AT 37 80 HOOVER ROAD IN HOOVER BEACH.
I OWN A HOUSE ON NORTH SHORE, UH, ABOUT A QUARTER MILE FROM THE PROPOSED EL ME SHORES PARTY BANQUET BUSINESS.
I'M CURRENTLY LIVING AND WORKING OVERSEAS, BUT STAY IN MY HOUSE ON NORTH SHORE EVERY SUMMER AND INTEND TO RETURN TO THIS HOUSE.
WHEN I FINISHED MY JOB OVERSEAS, MY BROTHER MICHAEL DOHERTY, WHO WILL ALSO PROVIDE A STATEMENT LIVES IN THAT HOUSE YEAR ROUND, THE SAME HOUSE ON NORTH SHORE.
I HAVE SOME CONCERNS REGARDING THE NEW ALCHEMY SHORE'S BUSINESS AND THEIR PLAN TO HOST PARTIES WITH UP TO 250 GUESTS.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THESE TYPES OF PARTIES INCLUDE UNLIMITED AND UNMONITORED DRINKING OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES, PARTIES WITH THAT MANY GUESTS AND UNLIMITED DRINKING CAN RESULT IN A NUMBER OF PROBLEMS. MY FIRST CONCERN IS PUBLIC INTOXICATION.
THE PROPERTY SEEMS TO HAVE NO OUTDOOR TOILET FACILITIES.
THERE HAVE ALREADY BEEN PARTIES THIS SUMMER ON THE BEACH OF THAT BUSINESS.
GUESTS TO PREVIOUS PARTY WERE OBSERVED URINATING ON THE BEACH.
SO MY CONCERN IS WHERE WILL ALL FUTURE GUESTS WHO ARE DRINKING UNLIMITED ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES USE TOILET FACILITIES? ALSO REGARDING INTOXICATION, MY FEAR IS A POTENTIAL NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL DRUNK DRIVERS AFTER EVERY BEACH PARTY THAT THE BUSINESS HOSTS.
HOOVER ROAD IS A SMALL STREET AND HAS NO SIDEWALKS.
THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY HAS A APPROXIMATELY 113 HOUSES WE'VE HEARD FROM SEVERAL OF THE RESIDENTS, MYSELF AND OTHERS.
ALL OF US RESIDENTS REGULARLY WALK ON THE STREETS AND THE STREET SIDE.
DRUNK DRIVERS ON THE NARROW UBER ROAD WITH NO SIDEWALKS WILL BE PARTICULARLY HAZARDOUS FOR PEDESTRIANS.
WHAT WILL THE BUSINESS AND POLICE DO TO ENSURE PEDESTRIANS ARE SAFE FROM DRUNK DRIVERS? IF THE PATRONS PARK ON HOOVER ROAD, THAT WILL CREATE ADDITIONAL HAZARDS FOR PEDESTRIANS, CYCLISTS, AND OTHER MOTORISTS.
WILL THE FACILITY HAVE SUFFICIENT PARKING OR WILL PATRONS PARK ON HOOVER ROAD? IN SUMMARY, MY CONCERNS ARE PUBLIC INTOXICATION, TOILET FACILITIES, PARKING, AND DRUNK DRIVING.
BUT THEY'VE ALREADY HIT A LOT OF GOOD SUBJECTS THAT COME UP A LITTLE LATER, BUT THEY WERE GOOD.
MY CONCERN IS ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY, BUT THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
IF THERE'S ROWDY ROUGHEST PEOPLE AND YOU MIGHT TRY TO ASK THEM TO DO, PLEASE RESPECT MY PROPERTY, THEY MAY BE
SO FOR COMMUNITY, A LARGE NUMBER OF ELDER FOLKS.
BUT, UH, MY CONCERN IS MS. SAFETY, WHO'S GONNA RELEASE THIS? AND HOW DO WE LIMIT ROWDY IS AFTER PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DRINKING AND THE BEACH.
I THINK WE ALL WELCOME THE PUBLIC TO WALK THE BEACH.
WE, UM, STORM WE ENJOY AND WELCOME PEOPLE TO WALK THE LINE, BUT NOT TO BE, UM, HANGING OUT, URINATING ON OUR FLOWERS AND UPSETTING THE COMMUNITY THAT'S LIVED THERE FOR MANY YEARS.
ADOPTED THE BAY AND OTHER PLACES FROM DON WITH DK.
THEY HAVE A CURFEW AND THE POLICEMAN'S QUITE GOOD WITH THAT.
BUT WITH PARTIES OUT THE RESOURCE, I DON'T KNOW HOW LATE THE CURFEW WOULD GO, I THINK WE SHOULD CONTINUE THE SAME TYPE OF CURFEWS WE MENTIONED.
THE NOISE ORDINANCES, UH, FOR THE SAFETY OF THE, THE COMMUNITY WHO LIVES THERE WOULD BE PROVEN TO HAVE A SECURITY ENFORCE NOT ONLY BY, I DON'T WANNA BURDEN THE HAMMER.
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ENOUGH TO DO, THEY SHOULD HAVE A, A TRAINED SECURITY FORCE AT SECURITY OFFICERS AT THE OPERATION FORCE.THEY'RE GONNA RUN A SORT BUSINESS AND, UH, THANK YOU.
I AM A ERIE COUNTY 9 1 1 PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCHER WHO IN MOST RECENT YEARS HAS WORKED THROUGH COVID, A MASS SHOOTING, CIVIL UNREST AND DEADLY BLIZZARD.
I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT AS I VENTURE INTO BEING A BUSINESS OWNER MYSELF, I'M AN EXTREME SUPPORTER OF LOCAL BUSINESS, WHETHER IT BE SHOPPING, DINING, OR ENTERTAINMENT.
MY FAMILY AND I ENJOY SPENDING DOLLARS AT ESTABLISHMENTS WHERE WE KNOW IT'S SUPPORTING LOCAL FAMILY AND THEIR TRAINS.
ALCHEMY BOASTS AN ABSOLUTELY LOVELY SPACE, AND I'M SURE THEIR BUSINESS HERE WILL BE JUST AS LOVELY AND INVITING.
HOWEVER, WITH MY EXPERIENCE AS A DISPATCHER, I DO HAVE GENUINE CONCERNS WITH SAFETY.
WHILE I DO NOT WISH ANY TRAGIC OR TRAUMATIC SITUATIONS TO THE ALCHEMY SHORES BUSINESS, THE CURRENT EMERGENCY EXIT AND REFUGE LOCATION COME WITH GREAT CONCERNS.
SPEAKING FROM FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE.
WHEN PEOPLE ARE IN A PUBLIC, OR I'M SORRY, WHEN PEOPLE ARE IN A PANIC, THEY NEED CLEAR, CONCISE DIRECTIONS AND SPACE AND IMMENSE AMOUNT OF SPACE.
THE CURRENT PLAN, AS IT HAS BEEN EXPLAINED TO ME, IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE.
AND I IMPLORE YOU THE CHIEF, I IMPLORE YOU THE BOARD, THE FIRE CHIEF CODE ENFORCER, AND ALL OTHERS WHO MAY HAVE A SAY TO REVISIT THIS.
THE SURFER DUDE I USE THAT RESPECTFULLY ALSO BROUGHT, UM, A WHOLE NOTHER LIST OF CONCERNS THAT I WAS UNAWARE COMING INTO THIS MEETING.
WATER RESCUES AND INJURIES ARE HIGH PRIORITY AND CREATE TRAUMA FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED, INCLUDING DISPATCHERS.
I HOPE THERE WILL BE PROPER SPACE AVAILABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE DROVES AND I MEAN DROVES OF EMERGENCY RESPONSE VEHICLES THAT WILL, THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE VEHICLES AND PERSONNEL THAT WILL CHAOTICALLY DESCEND ONTO THE LOCATION AT THE ROAD AND THE WATER FURTHER DISRUPTING THE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR YEARS.
IN ADDITION, IF THE BUSINESS OWNERS OF ALCHEMY ARE AS WONDERFUL OF PEOPLE, AS SO MANY HAVE SPOKE TONIGHT, I WOULD HOPE THEY BRING THAT ENERGY TO THE TABLE WHILE DISCUSSING THIS BUSINESS AND HOW IT'LL AFFECT THEIR NEIGHBORS.
FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, YOUR NEIGHBORS DON'T WANT TO STOP IT.
THEY WANT TO BE PROTECTED AND HAVE A RESPECTFUL RELATIONSHIP.
I CAN ASSURE YOU IF ALCHEMY'S OWNERS LIVE ON HOOVER ROAD, THEY TOO WOULD BE FIGHTING IT.
I HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE TO USE THE SPACE ON HOOVER MANY YEARS AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL AND PEACEFUL AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT IS APPEALING TO ALCHEMY SHORES.
THAT'S WHY THEY WANNA BE THERE, BUT THEIR PRESENCE ALONE DISRUPTS PEACE.
BEN, I HAVE DEFINITELY BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS MOMENT AND I HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS TO SPEAK OF, SO I DON'T THINK I WILL BE ALL THAT REPETITIVE.
I LIVE AT 37 82 HOOVER ROAD, WHICH IS ENTANGLED WITH 37 80.
WROTE, WE LITERALLY ARE ON EACH OTHER'S PROPERTY.
UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND YOUR CIRCLE CONSIDERATIONS.
I WAS A MEMBER OF THE SHORELINE COMMITTEE AND THE W THE L-W-R-P-I HAVE ALWAYS SUPPORTED EACH ACCESS EVEN DIRECTLY AFTER PEOPLE I CARE ABOUT AND KNOW FROM HOOVER BEACH HAVE STATED NO TO ANY PUBLIC WALKING.
I SUPPORT APPROPRIATE BEACH ACCESS.
I ALSO SUPPORT THE CONCEPT OF M1.
I'M ALL FOR UPCYCLING, RECYCLING AND REPURPOSING, BUT IT MUST BE DONE CORRECTLY.
YOUR PLANNING BOARD HAS GIVEN YOU DISTINCT DIRECTIVES.
WE HIRED AN EXTREMELY EXPERIENCED SOUND PROFESSIONAL.
HIS 31 PAGE REPORT IS BRILLIANT.
OUR LAWYER'S LETTER TO YOU BEYOND BRILLIANT INTIMIDATED.
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND HOW DARE YOU SAY, WE HAVE THREE MINUTES.
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I FIND IT SO OFFENSIVE AND IT, IT THREW HIM OFF.IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT MANY THINGS BE CONSIDERED BEFORE THIS BUSINESS IS ALLOWED TO CONTINUE.
ANYONE HIGHLY FAVORS THE DEVELOPER, BUT THAT WILL NOT DETER US.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO INSIST ON THE RIGHT TO LIVE CARE IN OUR HOMES.
I WOULD LIKE TO DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO THE SEWER SITUATION.
MY HUSBAND, JAMIE AND I INTRODUCED OURSELVES TO THE MC MCINTOSH FAMILY AND, AND TJ AND BOBBY AND NIKKI.
WE WELCOME THEM TO OUR AREA IN FEBRUARY.
I STATED TO THEM, I DO NEED TO INFORM YOU THAT YOUR SEWER LINE, YOUR RAW SEWAGE PASSES FROM YOUR BUILDING ONTO OUR PROPERTY AND IS DEPOSITED INTO OUR LATERAL LINE.
I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE ERIE COUNTY SEWER DEPARTMENT.
THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN SUPPORTIVE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW ANY CONTRACTOR, I'M AN ART TEACHER.
I COULD SEE THE PIPE COMING RIGHT IN.
I COULD SEE OUR LINE, BUT I WAS INSTRUCTED TO GET A PLUMBER.
THE REPORT IS IN THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT UPSTAIRS.
I BROUGHT THE REPORT TO, UM, THE ZONING ENFORCEMENT.
AND SCOTT, BRILLIANT NEW HIRE
HE SCOPED IN, HE COULD SEE ALL THE DIFFERENT BATHROOM UH, PIPES AND THE ERIE COUNTY SEWER DEPARTMENT SAID IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS. THAT IS AN ILLEGAL CO CONNECTION.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO DO WE GET PERMISSION FROM TO REMOVE THEIR CONNECTION TO OUR FOOD PRIVATE SEWER LINE.
AGAIN, WE WOULD, WE WANT TO KNOW HOW WE CAN'T DISCONNECT THEM FROM OUR PRIVATE SANITARY LINE.
AND THIS IS ALSO IN SECTION 2 8 0 TIMES SEVEN B ONE.
ALL DEVELOPMENT SHALL BE SERVICED BY PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER.
AND I, I HAVE STRESSED OVER THIS FOR HOW LONG I TRIED TO WORK WITH THEM.
I TRIED TO HAVE A LAND SWAP TO ACCOMMODATE THEM.
IT'S GONNA BE A LOT HARDER TO NEGOTIATE NOW.
IT WAS ONE OF THE BEST WAYS TO TEACH.
I WILL PASS THESE BOARDS AROUND ON BOARD ONE RIGHT HERE.
I'M AVOIDING ALL OF YOU TO PLEASE, PLEASE, YOU HAVE TO COME TO OUR PROPERTY.
YOU WILL UNDERSTAND SO MUCH MORE CLEARLY ALL OF OUR CONCERNS.
UM, THERE ARE PICTURES THAT I TOOK WITH MY IPHONE.
I'M GIVING YOU THE COURTESY OF TELLING YOU WHERE YOU ARE, WHAT YOU CHOOSE TO DO WITH YOUR TIME AND EVERYBODY ELSE IS, IS UP TO YOU.
UM, THIS IS, WE ARE FIGHTING FOR OUR LIVES.
I UNDERSTAND, BUT THIS CANNOT BE A FREE FOR ALL.
I DON'T THINK THIS IS A FREE FOR ALL.
WHY WERE THEY FORCED INTO THIS? THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE IN AUGUST.
WHY WAS THIS, WHY WAS THIS SCHEDULE SO PACKED? GOOD QUESTION.
ON THIS LOCK HERE, THIS IS WHAT KIRSTEN WAS SPEAKING OF.
ALONG OUR PROPERTY LINE, THEY, THEIR REFUGE PAD WHERE A 9 1 1 RESPONDER WOULD COME, A FIREFIGHTER OR AN EMERGENCY IS APPROXIMATELY FOUR FOOT BY FIVE FOOT.
HOW WILL TWO WHEELCHAIRS EVEN FIT THERE IF THAT WERE THE KIDS? IF THERE'S A HUNDRED FIVE, A HUNDRED TWENTY FIVE PEOPLE AS THEY PROPOSE WE'LL BE IN THIS BUILDING.
NOW, LET'S SAY IT'S AN ACTIVE SHOOTER.
GOD FORBID EVERYONE'S RUSHING OUT.
IF THEY STEP FIVE FOOT PAST THEIR DOOR, THEY'RE ON OUR PROPERTY.
BUT LET'S CONSIDER THE PILLARS THAT YOU WILL SEE THERE THAT STICK OUT 16 INCHES.
NOW WE'RE REDUCED TO APPROXIMATELY TWO FEET.
NOW LET'S GO ALL THE WAY DOWN A TWO FEET SECTION UP
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TO THE FOOT.YOU'LL SEE WHERE YOU CAN EXIT ONTO HOOVER ROAD.
YOU HAVE 20 FEET TO 20 INCHES BETWEEN A CHAMBERLIN FENCE AND A WALL FOR A FIREFIGHTER TO RESCUE SOMEBODY.
I'M EMBARRASSED TO HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
I'M EMBARRASSED THAT THIS IS PROPOSED AS AN EMERGENCY EXIT.
NOW YOU HIT A TELEPHONE POLE ON THEIR PROPERTY.
THEY HAVE 16 INCHES TO SQUEEZE THROUGH A TELEPHONE POLE IN CASE THEY HAVE TO RUN IN BOTH DIRECTIONS.
HOW IS THIS EVEN POSSIBLE TO BE AN EMERGENCY EXIT? I'D ALSO LIKE TO TALK ABOUT A KITCHEN FENCE.
IN NO WAY DO I WANT THAT EXHAUST THREE FEET FROM MY YARD.
I HAVE A MODEST LITTLE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS BEING OVERTAKEN BY A VERY LARGE BUSINESS.
I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU, I WOULD LIKE TO GROW A PROOF GUARD.
GUESS WHERE IT WOULD BE? THIS IS WHERE I GET FULL SUM.
DO TAKE A LOOK AT THEIR SNOW LOAD.
I AM REQUESTING THAT THERE BE HEATED COILS ALL THROUGHOUT THE ROOF FARM THAT WILL HOLD BACK THE SNOW SO THAT I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE I SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE MY YARD RUSHING RIGHT ALONG.
THERE ARE FOUR WILLOW TREES THAT HAVE GROWN THROUGH THE FENCE.
THEY HAVE SINCE SPROUTED UP, DOUBLE THEIR SIZE.
YOU CAN ALSO SEE HERE WHERE THERE WAS EXTENSIVE REMOVAL OF VEGETATION, LARGE TREES.
UM, MY HUSBAND WILL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT AND I AM REQUESTING THAT THE BOARD WOULD CONSIDER THAT THESE WILLOW TREES THAT WERE HACKED OFF WOULD BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE TO GROW.
THERE'S ALSO A LETTER HERE FROM CAROL MELNICK LIVES ON MIDSHORE THAT, UM, KATHY REPINSKI AGREED TO READ.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE SHE IS IN MIL.
OKAY, SO AGAIN, I HOPE MY FRUIT TREES AND BUSHES SURVIVE THAT SNOW LOAD.
AND IF NOT, WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO? REPLANT IT AS THEM TO REPLANT IT.
AND IN CLOSING, I WOULD LIKE TO TELL A PERSONAL STORY THAT HAPPENED, WHICH INCLUDES URINATION.
THEY HAD A PRIVATE PARTY LAST SATURDAY.
I CAME HOME FROM A POOL PARTY WITH FRIENDS DINNER.
MY SON SAID, OH, THERE'S A PARTY OVER THERE, MOM.
SO IN OUR BUNGALOW, I WENT UP TO THE BLOCK, WENT OUT ON THE PATIO AND NO SOONER DO I GET UP THERE 'CAUSE IT'S A NICE VIEW FROM THE SECOND STORY.
I SEE A COUPLE WALKING ALONG THE BORDER OF ALCHEMY AND CARBON ACTIVATE.
NEXT THING I KNOW, SHE SQUATS DOWN.
HE TRIES TO STAND IN FRONT AND PROTECT THE VIEW.
SO I THOUGHT I'LL TAKE A PICTURE IF YOU'RE THAT BOLD.
SO IF YOU NEED TO SEE THAT I HAVE IT.
OKAY, MRS. VAN, I JUST WANNA TELL YOU THAT WE'RE NOW AT 10 MINUTES.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THIS PARTY, THEIR BOO WAGON WAS PULLED DOWN ON THE BEACH.
THERE WAS A SPEAKER ON TOP AND THEY PROCEEDED TO BE ON THE BEACH WITH SOME TYPE OF ILLUMINATED THINGS, PLAYING ALL KINDS OF GAMES TILL 12.
I SENT THEM AN EMAIL THE NEXT DAY AND I SAID, HEY, I THOUGHT YOU WERE DAWNED TO DUST.
AND BY THE WAY, CAN YOU PLEASE NOT CUT DOWN THE WILLOW TREES? IT WAS MUCH LONGER THAN THAT.
IT TOOK QUITE A FEW, QUITE A BIT, QUITE A FEW DAYS FOR THEM TO RESPOND.
SORRY, WE KEPT YOU UP ALL NIGHT.
IT WAS A PRIVATE 40TH BIRTHDAY PARTY.
HOW MANY MORE 40TH BIRTHDAY PARTIES ARE COMING? SOUNDS LIKE THEY KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE COMPLETE DISREGARD FOR US.
SHE'S LIKE, WELL, WERE THERE 50 PEOPLE DOWN THERE? I SAID, I THOUGHT THERE WERE 30.
WHAT ARE THEY DOING DOWN THERE? JUST LIKE HANK SAID, EVERYTHING HANK SAID IS ALREADY COMING TRUE.
AND IT'S WISHFUL THINKING TO THINK THEY'RE GOING TO FOLLOW THE RULES.
IT'S CLEAR THEY, THAT IS NOT IN THEIR DNA CONSEQUENCES.
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AT ALCHEMY SHORE WINE AND BAR, WE LEARNED THIS LAST PLANNING BOARD MEETING.THEY CHARGE A $500 FINE IF A CUSTOMER USES SPRINKLES, GLITTER.
SO THEY UNDERSTAND CONSEQUENCES.
I WANT CONSEQUENCES WHEN THEY'RE VANDALISM.
I WANT CONSEQUENCES WHEN PEOPLE ARE WANDERING ON MY PROPERTY AT THEIR DUSK.
I WANT CONSEQUENCES WHEN THERE'S PEOPLE PARKING ALL OVER THE STREET.
AND I WANT CONSEQUENCES BEFORE I GO CRAZY FROM THEIR MUSIC, WHICH IS ALREADY TAKEN PLACE.
JAMIE DALE, MARGARET'S HUSBAND RIGHT NEXT DOOR, 7 82.
UM, ACCORDING TO BRAD REPINSKI AT THE HAMBURG TOWN CLERK'S OFFICE AS OF NOON TODAY, THERE'S BEEN NO PERMITS ISSUED TO ALCHEMY SHORES OR TREE AND VEGETATION REMOVAL BY THE HAMBURG TOWN.
ALTHOUGH THERE'S BEEN AN AWFUL LOT OF VEGETATION REMOVED, UM, THE, UH, OYA REQUEST HAS BEEN SUBMITTED CONCERNING THE WETLANDS DESIGNATION ON THE ALCHEMY PROPERTY IN 2008.
THERE WAS A CERTIFIED WETLAND THERE.
IT'S BEEN STATED THAT, UH, FROM FOLKS FROM ALCHEMY HAVE, HAVE STATED TO ME THAT, UH, 200 LOADS OF SAND WILL BE DUMPED ON THE OLD WETLAND SITE.
UH, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME CORRESPONDENCE FROM THE DC DETERMINING WHAT THE WETLAND, WHY THE DEC WHY, AND IF THE DE DESIGNATION OF WETLAND HAS CHANGED, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT BEFORE THERE'S SAND DUMPED INTO IT.
SOMETHING I'D LIKE THE BOARD TO THINK ABOUT.
UM, FOLKS AT ALCHEMY HAVE TOLD ME THEY'LL REMEDIATE OUR RAINWATER RUNOFF SITUATION FROM THEIR BUILDING.
IT FLOODS INTO OUR BASEMENT WHEN WE GET OVER AN INCH TO INCH AND A HALF OF RAIN TODAY.
THEY REPLACED THE GUTTER THAT WAS RUINED, UH, PREVIOUSLY BY ICE BUILD UP ON THE BUILDING DOWN OUT, UH, ON THE, THE NEW GUTTER DIRECT, THE RUNNING OFF WATER EXACTLY THE SAME AS IT DID BEFORE.
I'D LIKE A DEFINITIVE TO SOLUTION TO THIS, UM, AND HOW IT CAN BE RESOLVED.
I'D PREFER PREFER NOT TO HAVE TO BE HOME TO CHECK MY SUMP PUMP EVERY TIME I HEAVY RAIN IS PREDICTED.
UM, I DID SPEAK TO THIS, UH, ABOUT THIS AT THE MAY 3RD PLANNING BOARD HEARING BEFORE THAT, ON MARCH 13TH, WE FILED A COMPLAINT WITH THE TOWN CAMP CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT.
AND, UH, JUST GOT SOME POINTS HERE THAT I, I JUST WANNA STRESS AND I'M, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE BEEN AT GOING BY MULTITUDE OF OTHER RESIDENTS ON UBER ROAD, BUT JUST SHOWS HOW CONCERNED WE ARE WITH THIS KIND OF VAGUE ZONING AND VAGUE, I GUESS, PLAN OF WHAT IS ACTUALLY GONNA TAKE PLACE AT THIS SUB.
UM, YOU KNOW, NOT NEARLY ENOUGH STUDIES BEEN DONE ON TRACK PATTERNS AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE SAID EARLIER, UBER ROAD IS NORMALLY VERY SLOW.
NOT A TON OF TRAFFIC, NOT A LOT GOING ON.
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE GOING TO TONY'S AND THAT'S ABOUT IT.
AND THEN THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE ON UBER BEACH, UM, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THERE'S THE U ONE ZONING, YOU KNOW, AND EVENT SPACE IS NOT A LISTED USE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE 20 FEET AWAY FROM THE NEXT STRUCTURE OR THE NEXT HOME, NOT FOUR.
UM, YOU KNOW, BOTTOM LINE, WOULD YOU WANT AN EVENT SPACE
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FOUR FEET FROM YOUR HOUSE? I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD WANT AMPLIFIED MUSIC OR EVEN, EVEN JUST 200 PEOPLE WITH NO MUSIC.GENERATES A GOOD BIT OF NOISE.
IT'S WHERE WE HAVE BUILT FAMILIES.
WE WORK OUR WHOLE LIVES TO HAVE THESE HOMES.
IT'S WHERE WE SPEND OUR TIME TO RELAX AND UNWIND.
IT'S NOT FAIR TO US TO NOT BE CONSIDERED AND, AND HAVE THAT NOT CONSIDERED HOW THAT'S GONNA AFFECT OUR DAY-TO-DAY LIVES.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND EVERYONE KEEPS SAYING THAT, THAT THERE'S, THERE'S NO EVENT SPACE LIKE THIS OR IT'S A VERY UNIQUE SPACE.
WOODLAWN BEACH IS LESS THAN A MILE AWAY AND IT HAS ALL THE EXACT SAME THINGS.
EVENT SPACE, WEDDINGS, CATERING, PUBLIC BEACH ACCESS, WHICH THIS DOESN'T ALLOW.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW EVERYONE KEEPS SAYING THERE'S NO OTHER SPACE LIKE THIS IN THE SOUTH TOWNS.
THERE'S ONE LITERALLY LESS THAN A MILE AWAY.
IT'S, IT'S A FOUR MINUTE DRIVE FROM DOOR TO DOOR.
UM, AND EVERYONE'S TALKING ABOUT ALL THIS FINANCIAL OPPORTUNITY IT'S GONNA BRING AND ALL, ALL THIS FINANCIAL OPPORTUNITY AND EVERYTHING, BUT THERE WAS NO CONSIDERATION OF ANY OF THIS IS GONNA AFFECT OUR DAY-TO-DAY LIVES AND, AND HOW IT'S GONNA AFFECT US.
UM, YOU KNOW, JUST THE LAST THING I'M GONNA SAY IS SANDWICHING US BETWEEN TWO BARS AND EVENT SPACES IS JUST CRUEL.
WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE ONE THAT'S ALREADY THERE.
WE CAN TRY AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS, I MEAN, TO FROM BOTH SIDES CONSTANTLY.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A LIVING HELL.
SO MINE'S SHORT, SWEET TO THE POINT.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY AND I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION AND YOUR TIME.
HELLO, MY NAME IS ASHLEY MANN AND I'M AGAINST THE REZONING OF 37 80 INTO A BAR AND EVENT SPACE.
I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE LWRP AND THE T OF THE TOWN TO REZONE AND REDEVELOP THIS AREA.
AND I DO NOT THINK THAT THE BUSINESS PLAN RESPONSIBLY MAKES THE BEST USE OF THIS SPACE.
CURRENTLY, YOU ARE PROPOSING AN EVENT SPACE THAT WOULD NOT ONLY BE DISASTROUS TO RESIDENTS QUALITY OF LIFE, BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY CHECK YOUR BOX OF PUBLIC ACCESS.
YOU HAVE A PERFECTLY VIABLE BEACH IN EVENT SPACE FIVE MINUTES DOWN THE ROAD.
ALCHEMY SHORES IS PATRON ACCESS.
SO IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE BEST USE OF THIS SPACE, WHILE ALSO BALANCING IT AGAINST THE POTENTIAL DISRUPTION TO THE SURROUNDING HOMES.
IF YOU ARE LISTING OUT PROS AND CONS, THE CONS USUALLY OUTWEIGH THE PROS NO MATTER HOW MANY STIPULATIONS YOU PUT ON THEM.
AND EVENTS BASED BY DEFINITION WILL ALWAYS BE A DISRUPTION.
IT OPERATES OFF HOURS, IT CATERS TO A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
AND A LOT OF THE TIMES A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE DRINKING A LOT OF ALCOHOL.
SO UNLESS YOU PLAN TO STATION A POLICE OFFICER OUTSIDE DURING EVERY EVENT WITH A DECIMAL METER OR A, A BREATHALYZER READY THERE, YOU CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO DISRUPT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, IF YOU COMPARE THIS TO A BUSINESS THAT RUNS DURING REGULAR BUSINESS HOURS, IT DOESN'T HOST HARD TO CROWDS OR LOGS MUSIC, WHICH EVERYTHING ELSE LISTED IN YOUR MU ONE IS THIS DOESN'T SEEM TO BE THE BEST USE OF THAT SPACE.
UM, THE TOWN HAS ALSO DECIDED TO GIVE THEM A 10 YEAR TAX BREAK.
SO YOU HAVE ESSENTIALLY DECIDED TO INVEST IN THEIR BUSINESS AND ARE AGREEING TO DISRUPT THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S QUALITY NEGLECT.
I HOPE TODAY YOU RECONSIDER THE ADVANTAGES GIVEN TO A BUSINESS OVER THE PROTECTION OF YOUR TAX POLICY.
I'M A RESIDENT 37 90 ROAD AND I'M AGAINST PROPOSED RE ZONING HEALTH SHORES AT 37 80.
WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE TO THE BOARD THAT ANYONE THAT SPOKE ON ALCHEMY'S BEHALF WAS DIRECTLY FINANCIALLY BENEFITED FROM THIS BUSINESS.
WE WERE NOT ASSASSINATING THEIR CHARACTERS, BUT ANYONE THAT SPOKE ON BEHALF OF THEM WAS ANYONE THAT'S GONNA MAKE MONEY OFF OF THEM.
I'VE LIVED HERE FOR MY ENTIRE LIFE AT 37 90 HOOVER ROAD.
I'VE ENDURED ALL THE POSITIVES, BUT MORE FREQUENTLY THE NEGATIVES OF LIFE NEXT DOOR TO A BAR SLASH RESTAURANT.
LIVING TWO HOMES AWAY FROM DOSE SLASH THE BAYVIEW TO SUMMARIZE IN ONE WORD IS AWFUL.
IT IS AWFUL TO HAVE TO LIVE THAT CLOSE TO A BAR SLASH RESTAURANT.
PROPOSING TO ADD ANOTHER ONE, THREE HOMES DOWN ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF ME IS BAFFLING.
I KNOW DO SLASH 3,800 HOOVER IS NOT THE ISSUE ON HAND, BUT UNDERSTANDING ITS EFFECTS AND HISTORY WITH US IS RELEVANT CONTEXT AND A VERY ANALOGOUS EXAMPLE.
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THE LIFEGUARDS AT WOODLAWN BEACH? DO YOU KNOW I CAN HEAR THE CLOCK AT THE END OF HOOVER ROAD? DO YOU KNOW THAT I CAN HEAR PERFECTLY.THE MUSIC ON A BOAT A HUNDRED FEET OFF SHO ME.
WELL IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT, THEN NOW YOU DO.
SO TO EVEN PUT ON THIS CHARADE THAT ANOTHER BAR SLASH EVENT THEN YOU THREE HOMES AWAY FROM ME IS A GOOD IDEA IS NOT ONLY FALSE, IT IS CRUEL.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEND A WEEKEND AT MY HOME DURING A FULL NIGHT AT THE BAR, TWO HOMES DOWN FOR ME, HERE'S MY INSTRUCTIONS FOR YOUR STAY CLOSE ALL THE WINDOWS EVEN THOUGH IT'S HOT OUT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T HEAR THE TV WHEN THE MUSIC IS PLAYING, YOU WON'T NEED TO BRING A SPEAKER TO LISTEN TO YOUR OWN MUSIC BECAUSE NO MATTER HOW LOUD THAT IS, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO HEAR IT OVER THEIR MUSIC.
DON'T EXPECT TO GET A FULL NIGHT'S SLEEP DUE TO THESE FUN NIGHTTIME ACTIVITIES, INCLUDING MOTORCYCLES REVVING UP CARS, DOING BURNOUTS, FIREWORKS IN THE PARKING LOT.
MY PERSONAL FAVORITE FIST FIGHTS AND VERBAL FIGHTS IN THE PARKING LOT AT NIGHT, BETTER LOOK TWICE WHEN CROSSING THE STREET BECAUSE CARS SKID OUT AND RACE EACH OTHER DOWN THE STREET.
AND EVERY ONE OF YOU CAN SIT HERE AND TELL ME THAT JUST BECAUSE ONE BAR DOES IT DOESN'T MEAN ANOTHER WILL.
BUT WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? ALCOHOL, CHECK, MUSIC, CHECK, PATRONS CHECK SOUND, TRAVELING UN UNOBSTRUCTED OVER WATER.
WE HAVE NO REASON TO BELIEVE THESE PATRONS WILL BE ANY MORE RESPECTFUL BECAUSE AS THE OWNERS HAVE STATED, THIS WILL BE AN EVENT SPACE.
AND TYPICALLY PATRONS OF AN EVENT STATE ONLY GO THERE ONCE AND FOR ONCE IN A LIFETIME EVENT WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO BE TOLD, BE QUIET OR KEEP IT DOWN.
ALL OF YOU ON THIS BOARD, YOU POSSESS THE ABILITY AND THERE ARE TREMENDOUS RESPONSIBILITY OF HAVING TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT WE GET TO HAVE A NORMAL LIFE.
AND I FEEL STUPID EVEN HAVING TO SAY THAT TO YOU.
BUT IT'S TRUE BECAUSE IF ALL OF YOU SITTING HERE DECIDE TO ADD ANOTHER, ANOTHER BAR SLASH EVENT SPACE LESS THAN 50 FEET, FEET AWAY FROM ME, I WON'T BE ABLE TO HAVE A NORMAL LIFE.
I WON'T BE ABLE TO ENJOY THE OUTDOORS AT MY PRIVATE PROPERTY.
I WON'T BE ABLE TO HOST MY OWN EVENTS IN MY BACKYARD AND HAVE A TANYA OVER WHAT I LISTENED TO OR HOW I SHOULD SPEND MY DOWNTIME IN MY OWN HOME.
SO TO REITERATE, IF THIS PASSES, THIS IS A CRUEL, CRUEL THING TO PUT US THROUGH.
IF THERE IS NO POSSIBLE WAY TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING, THEN I WOULD BEG BEG YOU TO PUT IN PLACE STRICT STIPULATIONS FOR STRONGER NOISE ORDINANCE, LOCK AND ENVIRONMENTAL BANS, SUCH AS BANNING BALLOONS, SINGLE USE PLASTICS, CHINESE LANTERNS, AND FIREWORKS.
I'M MARRIED TO LOVELY NICU THERE.
UM, I LIVE AT 37 90 GOFER ROAD.
I'M, WE'RE ESSENTIALLY NEXT DOOR TO ALCHEMY SHORES AND I'M HERE WITH MY NEIGHBORS TO VOICE OUR CONCERNS.
UM, WE FOLLOWED THIS PROCESS VERY CLOSELY.
THE REZONING, UH, WE'VE ATTENDED EVERY RELEVANT MEETING OF THE PLANNING BOARD.
WE HAVE GATHERED INFORMATION, WE'VE TRIED TO MAKE OUR VIEWPOINT KNOWN.
AND AS MANY PEOPLE HAVE STATED, THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE OF ZONING TO US.
IT IS AN ISSUE WHERE WE ARE FIGHTING TO PROTECT OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.
WE FEAR THAT THIS PRESSURE TO REZONE AND REPURPOSE THIS SPECIFIC PARCEL IN LINE WITH THE EDICT OF THE LWRP AND THE TOWN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS GOING TO LEAD TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF A BUSINESS THAT IS BY DEFINITION GOING TO BE CATASTROPHIC TO THE KEY CHARACTER OF OUR COMMUNITY.
WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO WAIVE THE MERITS OF REZONING THIS PROPERTY FROM LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO A NEW COMPLETELY UNTESTED MIXED USE ZONE.
NOT ONLY THAT, WE WERE CONSIDERING GREENLIGHTING A USE FOR THAT ZONE THAT IS NOT EVEN ALLOWED IN THE ZONES DEFINITION.
WHILE THE APPLICANT'S DESCRIPTION OF THEIR USES FOR THAT EVENT CENTER HAVE BEEN FRUSTRATINGLY VAGUE AND UNDERDEVELOPED, THEY HAVE MENTIONED SEVERAL POSSIBLE TYPES OF EVENTS THAT THEY WOULD MAYBE BOOK AT A SHORES, INCLUDING PRIVATE PARTIES AND WEDDING RECEPTIONS.
SOUNDS LOVELY AND I CAN ATTEST THAT IT IS.
I HAD MY OWN WEDDING ON LAKE GARY IN MY OWN BACKYARD.
IT WAS A SMALL 50 PERSON EVENT.
AND I PERSONALLY SPENT WEEKS AND MONTHS PRIOR TO THAT EVENT WORKING DIRECTLY WITH MY NEIGHBORS TO MAKE ALLOWANCES FOR NOISE, FOR PARKING, FOR OTHER POTENTIAL DISRUPTIONS FOR OUR DAY-TO-DAY LIFE.
'CAUSE IT SEEMED PATENTLY OBVIOUS TO ME THAT MY TINY LITTLE WEDDING COULD BE A NUISANCE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WITHOUT THIS KIND OF DUE DILIGENCE.
MY NEAREST NEIGHBOR LIVES ABOUT 20 FEET FROM ME, GIVE OR TAKE.
AND I KNEW THAT EVEN HAVING A ONE DAY EVENT WOULD BE A BURDEN ON THEM.
ALCHEMY SHORES IS JUST OVER A SINGLE YARDSTICK AWAY FROM THEIR NEAREST NEIGHBOR.
THEIR STRUCTURE IS SO CLOSE THAT THEIR EMERGENCY EXIT BASICALLY SWINGS INTO THEIR PROPERTY.
THEY'RE SO CONNECTED TO THAT NEIGHBOR THAT THEIR LATERAL SEWER LINE, LITERALLY IN A LEGALLY TAPS INTO THEIR RESIDENTIAL VALUE, WHICH AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, WOULD BE ILLEGAL TO IMPLEMENT AND REPRESENT A STAGGERING AND UNSUSTAINABLE BURDEN ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD'S INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND I KNEW WAS A MATTER OF COMMON SENSE THAT MY ONE DAY EVENT WOULD STRAIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BY GREEN LIGHTING THIS REZONING APPLICATION.
YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY ALLOWING THAT SAME STRAIN AT DOUBLE CAPACITY OR MORE TO REOCCUR EVERY SINGLE WEEK BY SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T EVEN LIVE IT.
ARE YOU DOING SO AGAINST THE WILL OF EVERY SINGLE RESIDENT THERE? ABSOLUTELY.
DOESN'T THAT SEEM LIKE A COMPLETE ABANDONMENT OF COMMON SENSE? A LITTLE RIDICULOUS TO PUT AN EVENT
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CENTER SO CLOSE TO SOMEONE'S HOUSE, THE GUESTS FLEEING A FIRE WILL END UP IN THEIR LIVING ROOM OR THE BASE OF EVERY TRAP FROM THAT WEDDING PLACE IS GONNA SHAKE THEM IN THEIR BEDS.IF MY SENTIMENTS SEEM OVERBLOWN, AND THEY MAY, TO SOME, I WOULD POINT TO TWO SEPARATE SOURCES WHICH CORROBORATE THEM.
THE FIRST IS OUR VERY OWN SHORELINE REVITALIZATION COMMITTEE.
THEY SURVEYED THE COMMUNITY REGARDING THEIR VISION FOR GROWTH.
TOP TWO CONCERNS WERE CULTIVATING STRONG AND HEALTHY NEIGHBORHOODS PROTECTING AND ENHANCING ARMED VIOLENT MENTAL ASSETS.
WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THIS CHECKS BOXES.
I THINK PRETTY OBVIOUS THAT IT DOES NOT.
BUT I WOULD ALSO POINT TO THE COMMENTS OF OUR VERY OWN TOWN PLANNING BOARD WHO VERY ADMIRABLY SPENT HOURS IN EXTREME DEBATE OVER THIS VERY TOPIC AT THEIR LAST MEETING.
AND I THINK THEY DID THEIR VERY BEST IN A VERY DIFFICULT POSITION.
THIS PARCEL IS UNDER SO MUCH PRESSURE TO BE REZONED AND REDEVELOPED.
THEY DID NOT APPEAR TO FEEL COMFORTABLE SAYING THAT, SAYING NO TO THIS PLAN.
DESPITE SIGNIFICANT OPPOSITION TO THE IDEA OF AN EVENTS THAT ARE BEING DEVELOPED HERE.
THEY NOTED THAT IF THEY WERE TO OPPOSE THIS REZONING LIKELIHOOD WAS THAT THIS PARCEL WOULD SAID BE RESOLVED AS WATERFRONT COMMERCIAL, A DISTRICT WITH EVEN LESS REGULATION AND POTENTIAL FOR DISRUPTION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IN FACT, THEY STATED MORE THAN ONCE THAT THEY DID NOT KNOW WHAT THIS MU ONE DISTRICT WAS FOR.
NOR DID THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THESE ARE THE PEOPLE TRYING TO MAKE THIS DECISION.
SO IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY GOOD OPTIONS, THEY FORWARDED THE ISSUE ONTO THE TOWN BOARD FOR REVIEW, ALONG WITH STRETCH 10 OF THE STRONGEST CONDITIONS THAT THEY COULD DEVISE IN ORDER TO PREVENT A MISTAKE FROM BEING A, THESE CONDITIONS RECOMMEND LIMITS FOR POLLUTION, FOR NOISE, AND FOR TRESPASSING.
AND I HOPE THAT IF THIS REZONING IS PASSED, THAT THESE LIMITS ARE DEVELOPED AND ENFORCED TO THE FULL EXTENT OF THE LAW.
BUT ENCOURAGE EVERYONE HERE TO READ BETWEEN THE LINES OF THE PLANNING BOARD.
JUST BECAUSE THE ZONING BOARD OR THE PLANNING BOARD, EXCUSE ME, DID NOT FEEL EMPOWERED TO SAY NO TO THIS REQUEST, DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY THINK THIS IS A REMOTELY APPROPRIATE IDEA.
THAT'S PRETTY APPARENT FOR BEING THERE.
I CANNOT SPEAK FOR THEM, BUT I CAN ASK YOU GUYS, THE TOWN BOARD TO CONSIDER THE SPIRIT OF THEIR CONCERNS ALONG WITH THE WRITTEN LETTER OF THEM SAYING NO TO THIS REZONING REQUEST AND WORK WITH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HERE TO FIND APPROPRIATE USE OF THIS SPACE.
AND WE WILL WELCOME COLLABORATION WITH OPEN ARMS. YOU'VE HEARD FROM MY NEIGHBORS, WE'VE ALL SPOKEN ON SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
I'D LIKE TO STATE FOR THE RECORD, WE STAND BEHIND EACH OTHER'S VIEWPOINTS WHOLEHEARTEDLY.
PLEASE TAKE OUR CONCERNS SERIOUS.
WE ARE NOT HERE TO IMPEDE PROGRESS.
WE JUST WANT TO ENSURE THAT IT PROCEEDS RESPONSIBLY.
SO SHE SENT A LETTER THAT WAS REFERENCED.
I ALSO HAVE, I PLAN ON READING IT.
I'D BE SURPRISED IF SHE WAS HERE AS WELL.
BUT IF SHE'S HERE SHE CAN SEND THE SPEECH.
ARE YOU READING NOW OR NO? OH, OKAY.
I MEAN, A LOT OF INFORMATION HAS GONE OUT FROM THIS PODIUM.
AND I DON'T THINK I NEED TO REITERATE.
MY CONCERNS ARE FOR MY FAMILY, MY GRANDCHILDREN, MY CHILDREN, GUESTS THAT COME PRETTY REGULARLY AND ESPECIALLY DURING THE SUMMER.
AND MY NEIGHBORS WHO I SUPPORT COMPLETELY IN ALL OF THEIR EFFORTS.
UM, MY EFFORTS ARE JUST COMING HERE TONIGHT AND SPEAKING WITH YOU.
I I NEVER EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT THE DRUNK DRIVING UNTIL
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING HAPPENING COME
BUT IT HAS TO BE DONE IN THE RIGHT WAY.
IT, IT HAS TO BE COLLABORATED ABOUT.
AND I DON'T SEE ANY OF THIS HAPPENING IN A SIMPLE ZONING, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE ZONING IS VAGUELY DEFINED.
I DON'T SEE ANY OF THIS HAPPENING IN A ZONING CHANGE OF, OF WHAT'S TRYING TO BE PROPOSED.
MY SECOND CONCERN IS THE NOISE.
AND UH, I GREW UP WITH THE DOCK IN THE BAY AND UH, I REMEMBER TWIST PARTIES.
OKAY, SO IT'S BEEN GOING ON AT THAT BUILDING FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.
AND UH, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO ABOUT IT? NOTHING WE CAN COLLABORATE.
WE CAN WORK WITH THE FOLKS THAT WANT TO MAKE A SUCCESS OF THIS BUSINESS.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT THIS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR UH, HEARING ME OUT.
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I OWN MONGO TWO 10 ON THE LAKE.UM, MY HUSBAND AND I, HE IS BACK THERE.
UM, I'M NOT GONNA SPEAK TO ANN AND NICOLE'S CHARACTER 'CAUSE THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED, BUT I DO KNOW THEM.
I AM NOT GAINING ANYTHING BY SPEAKING ON THEIR BEHALF.
UM, SIMPLY 'CAUSE THEY'RE ACTUALLY KIND OF MY COMPETITION.
UH, BECAUSE WE HAVE EVENTS, WE HAVE DINNER, WE HAVE DRINKING DONE RESPONSIBLY.
'CAUSE THAT IS OUR, UH, LEGAL OBLIGATION AS IT HAS BEEN FOR ANN AND NICOLE FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS AT ALCHEMY IN THE VILLAGE, WHICH I ALSO OWN A BUSINESS THERE.
UM, SO I'VE NEVER TALKING ABOUT THEM AND THEIR CHARACTER IS GREAT.
NO, BUT I'M GONNA TALK TO YOU ABOUT, UH,
AGAIN, OURS WAS ZONED THAT WAY RIGHT IN THE BEGINNING.
SO WE DIDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, BUT WE DEFINITELY RECEIVED OUR FAIR SHARE OF FEEDBACK FROM PEOPLE THAT THEY DID NOT WANT US TAKING OVER THAT PROPERTY AND MAKING IT INTO A VIABLE RESTAURANT, WHICH WE HAVE DONE FOR THE PAST THREE SUMMERS.
UM, RESPONSIBILITY TO ALL RESIDENTS OF HAMBURG IS LIKE THE GOAL HERE.
AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE TOOK VERY, UM, SERIOUSLY WHEN WE WERE OPENING, WE DID NOT WANNA BE DISRESPECTFUL TO OUR NEIGHBORS.
UM, AT HOOVER BEACH, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE RESPECTFUL.
WELL, YOU AND ME, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT FOR YEARS.
UM, BUT WE CAME IN KNOWING VERY WELL THAT DRINKING IS GONNA HAPPEN.
IT'S MY JOB TO MAKE SURE IT'S DONE RESPONSIBLY.
PEOPLE GET CALLED UBERS ALL THE TIME.
IF YOU EVER LOOK AT OUR PARKING LOT AFTER REALLY ANY MORNING, THERE ARE ALWAYS PEOPLE WHO LEFT THEIR CARS THERE BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO.
WE WILL CALL YOU AN UBER, WE'LL EVEN PAY FOR IT.
I KNOW THAT ANN AND NICOLE WOULD BE IN THE SAME BOAT AS US FOR THAT.
WE DON'T WANT ANYONE TO ENDANGER OUR WHOLE COMMUNITY, WHETHER THAT BE POVER BEACH, WHETHER THAT BE THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURG, THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, OR THE CITY OF BUFFALO OR WHEREVER THOSE PEOPLE ARE DRIVING FROM.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE PULL PEOPLE FROM FAR NORTH IS NIAGARA FALLS AND AS FAR SOUTH AS
SO WE HAVE A TON OF PEOPLE WHO COME THERE.
UM, REALLY HONESTLY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD IMPLORE PEOPLE TO THINK ABOUT IS THAT IF THAT BUILDING IS SITTING THERE UNUSED, YOU MAY THINK THAT IT IS PROTECTED AND THAT IT IS SAFE AND THAT YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO DEAL WITH PEOPLE.
HOWEVER, WE CAN TELL YOU FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WHEN WE CAME ONTO THE PROPERTY AT AT 40 38TH RIVER, WE SPENT THE FIRST YEAR AND A HALF MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE WERE RESPECTFUL OF THE SPACE.
NOT LETTING FIRE ON THE BEACH THAT THEY DID ALL THE TIME.
AND, UM, NOT DOING WATER SPORTS UNSUPERVISED.
WELL THAT DOESN'T EVEN HAPPEN OFF OF MY BEACH, BUT GUESS WHAT, THEY LAND ON MY BEACH.
SO
SO WHETHER IT IS FROM ALBANY SHORES OR IT'S FROM SOMEWHERE, IF THERE'S A WATER RESCUE, IT'S GONNA HAPPEN NO MATTER WHAT.
'CAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING OUT, WHETHER THEY HAVE SOMEONE WHO IS WELL TRAINED AND CAN TEACH THEM OR IF THEY'RE GOING OUT ON THEIR OWN.
AND EVEN IF THEY ARE WELL TRAINED, WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE HAVE LOST THEIR LIVES RIGHT OFF OF MY BEACH.
BUT I DO CERTAINLY WANT SOMEBODY WHO'S IN CHARGE WHO CAN ACTUALLY TEACH THEM THE RIGHT WAY.
SO I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS ALL TO BE HONEST WITH YOU 'CAUSE IT'S BEEN A LOT OF INFORMATION.
BUT, UM, BRINGING BUSINESSES THAT ARE VIABLE WITH RESPONSIBLE LOCAL RESIDENTS WHO HONESTLY HAVE THEIR HEART AND THEIR INTERESTS IN DOING WHAT'S BEST FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
I UNDERSTAND IT MIGHT NOT BE WHAT'S EVERYBODY IS WANTING, BUT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE, IT'S WHAT'S BEST.
AND IT'S BRINGING, YOU KNOW, FINANCIAL GAIN AND UH, ACCESS TO THE BEAUTIFUL LAKE THAT WE DO HAVE THAT MAYBE HASN'T BEEN LOVED AND ENJOYED AS WELL AS IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN OVER THE YEARS.
I THINK SOMETIMES THE BIGGER PICTURE HAS SEEN.
WE HAVE A BUSINESS ON HOOVER ROAD.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SOME QUICK COMMENTS ON WHAT I DO TONIGHT.
FIRSTLY, UH, THE MINISTER OF THE LAST MEETING DID NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ANY OF OUR CONCERNS ESSENTIALLY DO NOT DO, TO ACCEPT THE REAL CONCERNS OF OWNERS PRESENTLY LIVING AND WORKING IN THE AREA.
YOU SAID EARLIER THAT YOU TOOK INTO ACCOUNT, UH, RESEARCH OF THE LOCAL RESIDENCE WE MOVE FORWARD ON, ON THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.
UH, SECONDLY, WHY ARE THE REQUIREMENTS OF A NEW OWNER TAKING PRECEDENT OR THE CONCERN OF LOCAL PEOPLE? WHY WAS THE INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY PURCHASED
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AND THEN ONLY REQUESTED AND MORE SUITABLE NON-INDUSTRIAL LOCATIONS WOULD'VE BE MORE APPROPRIATE? OUR BUSINESS HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED IN THIS AREA SINCE 2008 AND WE MAINTAIN IT SHOULD MAINTAIN AS AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE.OUR BUSINESS WILL CONTINUE TO GROW AND ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT OF OUR AREA WILL BE REQUIRED.
I CAN SEE THAT REZONING CAUSE PROBLEMS WITH OUR DISABILITY GROWTH.
FINALLY, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT, UM, TO MOVE THIS FORWARD FROM OUR POINT WHERE WE ARE AN INDUSTRIAL USER OF THE AIR, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BACK TO THE TOWN.
UM,
AM I CORRECT? THAT IS A QUESTION.
WE'RE HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE DECISION MADE.
IN THE MINUTES THAT I READ IT, IT SAID THAT YOU ARE RECOMMENDING THAT IT GOES FORWARD.
THE TOWN BOARD HAS NOT MADE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS.
THE PLANNING BOARD HAS RECOMMENDED TO BRING THIS TO THE TOWN BOARD, HENCE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MY LAST QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE IMPLICATION FOR US AS A BUSINESS THAT IS PRESENTLY THERE, BEEN THERE FOR 14 YEARS? IF YOU REASON THE, WHAT'S THE IMPLICATION WORKS? I DON'T, I DON'T SEE A, AN IMPLICATION.
WHAT I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY IMPLICATION.
DOES IT AFFECT ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IN OUR AREA? IS I
BUT AGAIN, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO YOU'RE WELCOME TO SHARE WHATEVER YOU LIKE WITH THE BOARD AND THE BOARD WILL CONSIDER THAT THE BOARD MAY CHOOSE TO RESPOND TO SOME OF THESE COMMENTS IN THEIR REPORT FROM THE BOARD.
BUT THE PURPOSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING IS TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AND THE BOARD THE OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S NO RESPONSE FROM YOU ABOUT WHETHER THAT WOULD AFFECT HOW BUSINESS, NO IMMEDIATE RESPONSE, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE THAT UP, ISSUE UP WITH YOU AFTER THE MEETING.
SO THERE'S NOBODY ELSE THAT IS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK BEFORE I READ THE LETTERS FROM THE PUBLIC.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK PLEASE, BEFORE I READ THE LETTERS FROM THE PUBLIC, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? YES MA'AM.
HELLO, MY NAME IS MAUREEN SPRA.
I'VE BEEN FRIENDS WITH MARGARET AND JAMIE VAN DALE FOR SEVERAL DECADES.
I'VE BEEN A GUEST IN THEIR HOUSE MANY TIMES OVER THE YEARS.
I'VE BEEN PART OF THE JOURNEY WITH THE PROSPECT OF CHEMY SHORES MOVING IN NEXT DOOR TO THEM FROM THE BEGINNING.
UM, I'VE LISTENED TO ALL THEIR CONCERNS FOR SEVERAL MONTHS NOW AND I CAN TELL YOU HOW STRESSFUL AND UNSETTLING IT'S BEEN FOR THEM.
THEY'RE FIGHTING TO KEEP THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE THAT THEY'VE ENJOYED ON THEIR BEACH AND THEN THEY'RE HOME FOR 15 YEARS.
THERE'S A LOT AT STAKE HERE AS FAR AS THE PEACE AND TRANQUILITY THAT THEY STAND TO LOSE IF THEY SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO GO THROUGH.
FIRST TIME I VISITED THEIR HOUSE AFTER THE GREEN SPACE WAS ALL TAKEN AWAY, UH, BY ALCHEMY SHORES, I WAS STU AND HOW OPEN IT WAS.
THERE WAS NOISE THAT I HAD NEVER EXPERIENCED BEFORE FROM THE INDUSTRIAL BUILDING UP THE STREET.
UM, IT WAS PROFOUND AND I HAD NEVER EXPERIENCED THAT NOISE BEFORE.
SO THIS IS A QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE, A VERY SERIOUS PROBLEM OF LIFE VISION FOR THEM.
SO I IMPLORE YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION HOW THIS WILL AFFECT NOT ONLY MARGARET AND JAMIE, BUT ALL THE OTHER FAMILIES WITHIN DISTANCE, POST PROXIMITY AS WELL.
WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO BE HEARD BEFORE WE READ THE LETTERS FROM THE PUBLIC? OKAY, SO THERE ARE TWO.
IS THIS A COMMENT
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK BEFORE I READ THE LETTERS FROM THE PUBLIC?
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SO THE FIRST LETTER, UH, SO YOU'VE BEEN THERE, MR. RANDY HO, HAVE YOU BEEN THERE? A THAT WAS THE QUESTION.WE DON'T WANT, WE JUST WANNA KNOW.
SO THE FIRST LETTER WAS FROM MR. ANO AND HE SHARED HIS, HIS CONCERNS, UM, IN EMAIL AS WELL AS THE REPORT PROVIDED.
SECOND LETTER IS FROM CAROL MELNICK AND IT STATES TO THE TOWN BOARD OF HAMBURG.
I'M A PART-TIME RESIDENT AT UBA BEACH, A FORMAL DOCTORAL STUDENT IN ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCE, ECOLOGY AND LIFELONG GARDEN.
I'VE BEEN ASKED BY A GROUP OF RESIDENTS TO LOOK INTO THE ADVANTAGE OF HAVING WEEPING WILLOW SALIX BABYLON ON A PROPERTY.
INDEED THERE ARE MANY ADVANTAGES, PREVENT SOIL EROSION CONTROL, WHITE CLEANING, WATER RUNOFF, FILTERS, TOXINS AND DECONTAMINATED.
WATER AND SOIL PREVENTS FIRE BREAKS DUE TO HIGH WATER CONTENT.
50 50% WILLOWS HOLD 100 GALLONS OF WATER PER DAY DURING SUMMER HOUSE PROTECTION AGAINST FAST STRONG WINDS IN ZONES FOUR THROUGH 10.
WE ARE ZONE FIVE B TO SIX, A CLEANS RUNOFF FROM ROAD WATER IF DIRECTED TO A DEEP PIT, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY TO NATURE LOVERS WITH FABULOUS NESTING SITE FOR BIRDS AND WILDLIFE.
SINCERELY, WITH MUCH HOPE FOR BOTANICAL PRESERVATION TO CAROMA.
MEL, BEFORE WE MOVE, BEFORE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, I JUST REALLY WANT TO CLARIFY A COUPLE THINGS TO BOARD HAS BEEN APPROACHED WITH ACCUSATIONS AND HOW DARE YOU? I WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IT'S OUR JOB TO LOOK AT THESE DECISIONS AND MAKE THESE DECISIONS.
THIS PROPOSAL WAS NOT OUR IDEA.
THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY PROPOSES TO THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITY WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO, AND IT'S UP THE TOWN TO MAKE THE APPROPRIATE DECISIONS.
SO WE ARE HERE TONIGHT HOLDING THIS PUBLIC HEARING, NOT BECAUSE WE ENDORSE THE PROJECT, NOT BECAUSE THIS IS OUR IDEA, BUT THIS IS WHAT THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY HAS BROUGHT TO THE TOWN AND THE TOWN WILL MAKE THAT DECISION.
I'VE ALSO HEARD A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY THAT YOU HAVE NOT BEEN CONSIDERED.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT WENT INTO OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE BACK AND FORTH WITH THE LWRP AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WITH THE PLANNING BOARD FOR THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT, THERE HAVE BEEN MANY, MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE PUBLIC TO BRING THEIR CONCERNS, THEIR IDEAS AND THEIR THOUGHTS TO THIS PROJECT.
AND I'M PROUD OF THE PUBLIC INTERACTION THAT WE'VE DONE AND I AM THRILLED TO HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE HERE SHARING THE THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, MY COLLEAGUES ON, ON BOARD ANYTHING IN RESPONSE TO THE PUBLIC HEARING, I WOULD JUST COMPLETELY AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAID.
I, I MEAN, I COULDN'T DISAGREE MORE WITH THE COMMENTS THAT STATED THAT WE DON'T CARE AND I COULDN'T DISAGREE MORE WITH THE COMMENTS THAT, UM, WE DON'T TAKE EVERYBODY, WHETHER IT BE ALCHEMY, WHETHER IT BE THE RESIDENTS CONSIDERATION, UM, BEFORE WE END UP UL ULTIMATELY MAKING A DECISION.
UM, AND YES, OF COURSE, UM, WE'VE BEEN ON SITE, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S CRYSTAL CLEAR.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THIS PUBLIC MEETING.
AND WE WILL NOT TAKE ANY DECISION AS YOU'VE SEEN US, UH, HISTORICALLY, LIGHTLY.
WE'RE GONNA DO OUR HOMEWORK, WE'RE GONNA DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE.
THIS IS FOR MANY OF US A STARTING POINT OF REALLY LOOKING AT IT TO THIS HIGH LEVEL BECAUSE WE WANNA GET YOUR INPUT.
WE'VE GOTTEN, YOU KNOW, GREAT INPUT ON BOTH SIDES AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO GET AS MUCH INPUT AS WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION THAT WE FEEL IS THE BEST DECISION, UH, FOR THE TOWN ON BAILS MATTER PROCEDURE IS CAN I CONFIRM THAT THE EXPERT REPORT WE SUBMITTED AND MY LETTER REFER TO THE RECORD EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT? YES.
I GOT THE ELECTRONIC VERSION, BUT I ALWAYS APPRECIATE THE PAPER AS WELL.
WITH NOTHING FURTHER, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HALL.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
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PROCEDURE ISSUE BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION IN THAT THE PREVIOUS THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT WE, I MADE A MOTION TO ADJOURN WHEN THE CORRECT MOTION WOULD BE TO CLOSE.SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR PROPOSED LOCAL LAW.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CONLEY.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING FOR PROPOSED LOCAL LAW.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AND NOW A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PROPOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR PROPOSED ZONING IN THE FORMER YEAR STATE THROUGH A PROPERTY.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CONLEY.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THAT BRINGS US, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, TO RESOLUTION NUMBER SEVEN, SUPERVISOR.
WE HAVE, UH, SOME OTHER NEW HIRES HERE AND IT'S BEEN A REQUEST WHETHER WOULD NOT OR BABYSITTING ISSUES.
UM, BEFORE, WE'RE GONNA BE MINDFUL OF EVERY, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE NEW VOLUNTEER FIRE MEMBERS HERE, DO WE? NO.
DO WE HAVE, UH, MR. GOLLEY NOT HERE? I WOULD IMAGINE WHEN WE GET TO THE FOLKS THAT MAY BE IN THE NEED OF CHILDCARE, WE WILL GO TO ROBERTO'S.
I'M THINKING MIGHT HAVE SOME CHILDCARE ISSUES.
THIS IS MR. CONLEY'S RESOLUTION BE RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVES THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE DIRECTOR OF RECREATION AND HIRING NICOLE ROBERTO TO THE VACANT POSITION OF SENIOR RECREATION SUPERVISOR PROVISIONAL COMPETITIVE EFFECTIVE JULY 31ST, 2023.
THE APPOINTMENT IS SUBJECT TO COMPLETION OF ALL PRECONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT.
SALARY IS $33 AND 41 CENTS PER HOUR.
FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN A 6 7 7 2 100.
SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER CONLEY AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HO.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
OKAY, SO WE ALSO HAVE A DIDN'T RECOGNIZE HIM.
WE HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CONLEY.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS AB WE HAVE ONE ABSTENTION.
I DIDN'T HEAR YOU WELL, I SAID I.
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MR. RENS.NOW I THINK THAT RINGS US TO NUMBER SEVEN.
BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD DOES HEREBY APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE PRES MEETING AS FOLLOWS, JUNE 12TH, 2023.
SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMAN C*M FOR SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HO IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
OPPOSED? INTENTIONS CARRIED FREE RESOLVED IN EVERY TOWN BOARD IS HEREBY APPROVE THE REQUEST OF ARMOR.
VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY WHO ADD TO THE ROLES OF MEMBERSHIP INDIVIDUALIZED FOLLOWS, EMMA SATEL.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HOKO IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS CARRIED BE RESOLVED THAT THE EY TOWN BOARD IS HEREBY APPROVE THE REQUEST OF BIG TWO VOLUNTEER FIREMAN'S COMPANY INCORPORATED TO CONFIRM MEMBERSHIP UPON TWO INDIVIDUALS AS FOLLOWS, BRENDA BUSH AND ANGELINA MCGUIRE CHRIST.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER FERRELL RESO IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
ON MONDAY, JULY 17TH, 2023, THE TOM BOARD AUTHORIZED TOM HAMBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH BLACK GROUP INCORPORATED TO PROVIDE LICENSE PLATE READER CAMERAS AND OR AUDIO DETECTION DEVICES TO TOWN.
WHEREAS THE NEW YORK, YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION HAS REQUESTED THE TOWN OF HAMBURG TO FIRM RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY DEVICES INSTALLED IN THE NEW YORK STATE DOT RIGHT AWAY.
NOW THEREFORE BE A RESULT THE TOWN OF P POLICE DEPARTMENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PAYMENT AND MANAGEMENT OF THE CONTRACT CLOCK GROUP INCORPORATED AND FOR OVERSEEING THE OPERATIONS, MAINTENANCE AND REMOVAL OF MANY FLOCK SAFETY DEVICES IN THE NEW YORK SAFETY OT RIGHT OF AWAY IN ACCORDANCE WITH NEW YORK STATE DOT STANDARDS AND REGULATIONS.
ALL IN FAVOR TO SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS CARRIED BE RESOLVED WITH THE TOWN BOARD APPROVES THE TERMINATION OF THE FOLLOWING COURT OFFICER SO MOVED.
ALL IN FAVOR TO SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
OPPOSED? EXTENSIONS CARRIED WHEREAS THE TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD RECEIVED AN APPLICATION INCLUDING REQUIRED SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION AND PROOF OF RESIDENCE FROM A VILLAGE OF GL CELL RESIDENT REQUESTING A PLACEMENT OF AN IMPAIRED CHILD SIGN IN THE M-U-T-C-D ESTABLISHED VICINITY OF THEIR RESIDENCE.
AND WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD CONSIDERED ALL OF THE INFORMATION PROVIDED AND VOTED TO REQUEST AN IMPAIRED CHILD SIGN ERECTED AND MAINTAINED ACCORDINGLY.
NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED THAT THE HAM TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES AND IMPAIRED CHILD SIGN TO BE INSTALLED AND MAINTAINED IN THE M-U-T-C-D ESTABLISHED VICINITY OF THE RESIDENCE AS CITED IN THE APPLICATION AND BE A FURTHER RESULT AT THE TIME OF HAMMER TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY COORDINATOR SHALL GENERATE THE REQUIRED WORK ORDER FOR THE PROJECT TO BE COMPLETED.
ONE ZERO AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT DB 0.511 0.0205 SIGNS AND SIGNALS.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN LAUREN, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN COUNCIL.
WHEREAS LINWOOD, RICHMOND, ROSEVIEW AND THURSTON AVENUES ARE LOCATED IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA OFF OF ABBOTT ROAD IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG AND KATHLEEN STREET, MANOR LANE AND MARYLAND DRIVE ARE LOCATED IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA OFF OF BIGTREE ROAD IN NATON, HAMBURG.
AND WHEREAS ROAD ROADSIDE PARKING AND TRAFFIC BACKUP AND CONGESTION ON BOTH SIDES OF THESE ROADS ARE A SAFETY ISSUE IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, PARTICULARLY DURING BUFFALO BILLS, HOME GAMES AND OTHER STADIUM EVENTS.
AND WHEREAS REVIEW OF THIS PROBLEM IDENTIFIED THAT PARKING ALONG THESE STREETS COULD ALSO CREATE DIFFICULTY FOR EMERGENCY RESCUE VEHICLES TO REACH A RESIDENCE IN THE COMMUNITY AND MAKE IT VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR FIRE EQUIPMENT TO TRAVERSE THE AREA.
AND WHEREAS THE HAMBURG TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD VOTED TO RECOMMEND TO THE HAMPER TOWN BOARD THE INSTALLATION OF NO PARKING P ONE DASH 16 MODIFIED SIGNS AT EACH END AND ON BOTH SIDES OF LINWOOD, RICHMOND, ROSEVIEW AND THURSTON AVENUES THAT READ NO PARKING THIS STREET STADIUM EVENT DAYS.
AND WHEREAS THE HAM TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD ORDERED TO RECOMMEND TO THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD THE INSTALLATION OF NO PARKING P ONE DASH 16 MODIFIED
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SIGNS ON THE FIRE HYDRANT SIDE OF KATHLEEN STREET, MANOR LANE AND MARYLAND DRIVE THAT READ NO PARKING THIS SIDE STADIUM EVENT DAYS.NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES SIGNS TO BE INSTALLED ON RICHMOND, ROSEVIEW, THURSTON AND LINWOOD AVENUES AS WELL AS ON KATHLEEN STREET, MANOR LANE AND MARYLAND DRIVE AS APPREHENSION AND BE A FURTHER RESULT OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG TRAFFIC SAFETY COORDINATOR SHALL GENERATE THE REQUIRED BOARD ORDER FOR THE PROJECT TO BE COMPLETED.
FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT DB FIVE 0.0205 SIGNS AND SIGNALS.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY AYE.
PROPOSED IONS CARRIED REQUEST OF RESOLUTION FROM THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZING ALCOHOL WAIVERS FOR THE FOLLOWING AUGUST, 2023 TAYLOR ROAD RENTALS.
AUGUST 1ST, FOUR, FIFTH, SIXTH, JULY 7TH OR JULY 8TH, I'M SORRY, AUGUST 8TH, AUGUST 7TH.
FOUR, FIFTH, SIXTH, SEVENTH, 7, 10, 11, 12, 13, 17, 18.
ALL IN FAVOR WE SIGN FOCUSING.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED WITH THE TOWN BOARD.
THE TOWN OF
PRICING IS PERGA COUNTY MUNICIPAL BID PURCHASED THROUGH FLEET MAINTENANCE INCORPORATED AND BODY ADDITIONS AT VALLEY FAB.
MY COUNCIL MEMBER FERRELL WILL RUN SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER AN AYE.
OPPOSED? AB EXTENSIONS CARRIED.
WHEREAS ON MARCH 11TH, 2021, PRESIDENT BIDEN SIGNED AN AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT WHICH PROVIDES FINANCIAL SUPPORT TO LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO RECOVER FROM THE IMPACTS OF COVID-19 PANDEMIC.
AND WHEREAS TOWN OF HAMBURG RECEIVED $11.5 MILLION IN ARPA FUNDS WHO ALLOCATE ACCORDANCE WITH ARPA GUIDELINES AND WHEREAS TOWN F LEADERSHIP TEAM, INCLUDING DEPARTMENT HEADS AND MANAGERS AS WELL AS FRONTLINE EMPLOYEES, HAVE BEEN CONSULTED IN A COLLABORATIVE APPROACH.
INFORMED SPENDING PRIORITIES PROVIDE SAFE ACCESSIBLE TOWN FACILITIES TO HAMBURG RESIDENTS AND THE EMPLOYEES WHO WORK ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG.
AND WHEREAS THE TOWN OF FAMILY LEADERSHIP TEAM, INCLUDING DEPARTMENT HEADS AND MANAGERS AS WELL AS FRONTLINE EMPLOYEES, HAVE BEEN CONSULTED IN A COLLABORATIVE APPROACH TO INFORMED SPENDING.
SOUNDS LIKE THE SAME SENTENCE.
UH, WHEREAS THE US DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY OVERSEES OUR P FUNDING TO STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNANCE AND WHEREAS THE CORONAVIRUS STATE AND LOCAL FISCAL RECOVERY FUNDS FINAL RULE WENT INTO EFFECT ON APRIL 1ST, 2022.
AND WHERE THE TOWN SUPERVISOR IN CONSULTATION WITH THE TOWN'S FINANCE DEPARTMENT HAS DETERMINED THAT THE PROPOSED FUNDING ALLEGATIONS ARE CONSISTENT AND APPROPRIATE TO RULES AND GUIDELINES SET FORTH BY THE US DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY.
AND WHEREAS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE PROPOSED ALLOCATION OF FUNDS WAS HELD ON JUNE 26TH, 2023.
NOW THEREFORE WE RESOLVED DOWN BOARD WITH THE TOWN OF HAMBURG ALLOCATES $2 MILLION IN AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDING AS FOLLOWS.
$1 MILLION FOR PARKS, PLAYGROUNDS, AND HEALTH SPACES FUNDS WILL BE USED TO IMPROVE BY PARKS STARTING WITH O PARK.
$600,000 FOR TOWN HALL SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS.
FUNDS WILL BE USED TO IMPROVE BUILDING SAFETY WAY FINDING AND ACCESSIBILITY AT TOWN HALL $250,000 FOR VOLUNTEER FIRE AND EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES FUNDS ABUSE TO SUPPORT OUR VOLUNTEER FIRE AND EMS ORGANIZATIONS.
$150,000 FOR COMMUNITY AND HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION.
GRANTS HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION IS ANOTHER RESIDENCE BASED ENTITY CAN BE ELIGIBLE TO APPLY FOR BEAUTIFICATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE GRANTS.
THE MOTION BY SUPERVISOR HOKE AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MCC.
I'D LIKE TO CALL FOR A ROLL CALL.
SO MOVE UH, BRINGS US TO NUMBER 20.
WE RESOLVED WITH TOWN BOARD OF PROOF BUILDINGS GROUNDS DEPARTMENT TO TRANSFER $5,944 AND 96 CENTS FROM INTEREST INCOME ACCOUNT A2 4 0 1 TO THE FIRE PREVENTIONS ACCOUNT A1 6 2 4 6 6 A 6 7 81 4 6 6 A 71 44 6 6 AND A 72 54 6 6 TO PAY GREAT LAKES BILLING SYSTEMS INCORPORATED.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER COUNTY.
ALL IN FAVOR TO SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
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HERE.RESOLVED THE TOWN BOARD APPROVED THE TERMINATION AND HIRING OF PERSONNEL FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF YOUTH RECREATION AND SENIOR SERVICES AS PER THE ATTACHED PDF.
SECOND THOSE MY COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCIL BY COUNCIL MEMBER COMING FOR ALL IN FAVOR FOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
CARRIED THE RESULT THAT THE HENRY TOWN BOARD DOES HEREBY APPROVE THE REQUEST OF SCRAN AND VOLUNTEER FIREMAN'S COMPANY INCORPORATED TO CONFIRM MEMBERSHIP UPON THE TWO INDIVIDUALS AT FOLLOWS COLIN CHAFFE AND LEO GALBO.
SECOND MOTION BY SUPERVISOR HO.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER LORENZO IN FAVOR.
WHEREAS TOWN OF HAMBURG HAS VARIOUS PROJECTS FUNDED BY LOCAL, STATE, AND FEDERAL RESOURCES.
AND WHEREAS MANY PROJECTS INVOLVE STRICT COMPLIANCE WITH ESTABLISHED POLICIES AND REPORTING TIMELINES.
AND WHEREAS TOWN OF HAMBURG HAS PRIORITIZED PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT IN MANY LARGE SCALE SPENDING PROJECTS, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT WILL IMPACT LOCAL ROADWAYS, WALKABILITY, IMPROVEMENTS IN PUBLIC REALM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS.
AND WHEREAS THE TOWN IS ALSO LOOKING TO MAKE CHANGES TO VARIOUS SYSTEMS AND PUBLIC SERVICES THAT WILL REQUIRE PARTNERSHIP WITH COMMUNITY-BASED AND NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS.
AND WHEREAS SOME OF THIS WORK WILL REQUIRE THE TOWN TO SUPPORT CAPACITY BUILDING, STRATEGIC PLANNING, AND POSSIBLY LEADERSHIP SEARCH.
LEADERSHIP SEARCH SUPPORT OF THE TOWNS PARTNERING AGENCIES AND ORGANIZATIONS.
NOW THEREFORE BEING RESOLVED, THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES A SUPERVISED SOLUTION.
RFQ HERE TO ATTACH FOR CONSULTANTS FIRMS WITH EXPERIENCE CONDUCTING ORGANIZATIONAL ASSESSMENTS AND DEVELOPING CAPACITY BUILDING PLANS, PARTICULARLY IN THE GOVERNMENT AND NONPROFIT ARENA.
LETTERS OF INTEREST MAY BE SUBMITTED TO THE TOWN CLERK AT TOWN HALL.
6,100 SOUTH PARK AVENUE IN NEW YORK.
1 4 0 7 5 BY NO LATER THAN 11:00 AM LOCAL TIME ON SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2023.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HALL.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THIS BRINGS US TO, UH, OUR AUDIT OF CASH DISBURSEMENTS 20 NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED WITH THE TOWN BOARD APPROVED A TRANSFER OF $125,000 FROM THE DV FUND BALANCE INTO ACCOUNT DV FIVE ONE OVER TIME 5,000 AND ACCOUNT DV PART TIME $40,000 TO FACILITATE ONGOING CLEANUP AND REPAIR FROM SNOW STORM DAMAGE AND BE PREPARED FOR FLOWING NEEDS THIS WINTER.
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER FELL.
RUN SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER COUNTY IN FAVORABLY SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THAT BRINGS US TO THE BOARD AUDITIVE CASH DISBURSEMENTS BE RESOLVED.
THAT WE APPROVE THE TOWN BOARD AUDIT OF CASH DISBURSEMENTS DATED JULY 17TH, 2023.
TOTAL CASH DISBURSEMENTS SUBMITTED FOR AUDIT $1,183,895 AND 28 CENTS.
THIS BRINGS US TO REPORT OR PUBLIC EXPRESSION.
IS THERE ANYBODY, UM, IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD? YES MA'AM.
WE SPOKE EARLIER TODAY AND I JUST WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THIS, UM, TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF INTERACTIONS THAT I'VE HAD WITH ONE OF YOUR APPOINTED EMPLOYEES.
AND THAT WOULD BE THE
IT'S BEEN A HORRIBLY UNPLEASANT EXPERIENCE.
UM, YOU CAN CHARACTERIZE IT AS YOU WOULD LIKE OR SEE FIT, BUT I KNOW HE'S APPOINTED, SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION.
UM, FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH MR. STANFORD AND GETTING MY HOUSE APPRAISED AT A CORRECT NUMBER AS I ALWAYS FELT.
IT WAS, UM, SIGNIFICANTLY OFF WHEN I FIRST WALKED IN.
YOU KNOW, HE'S LIKE, OH, THERE'S A LOT OF PAPERWORK AND YOU HAVE TO DO THIS, THIS, AND THIS.
SO IMMEDIATELY I WAS LIKE, WELL THAT'S JUST LIKE A LOT OF WORK.
SO, AND THAT WAS THREE YEARS AGO.
SO I TURNED AROUND AND WALKED OUT.
WELL, WHEN I WENT HOME AND I LOOKED ON THE WEBSITE, IT SAYS, NO, IT'S SUPPOSED TO GRANT ME AN INFORMAL MEETING AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE POLITE AND CIVIL AND ALL OF THIS THINGS.
SO THE FOLLOWING YEAR CAME UP AND I WORK AS AN EMERGENCY ROOM NURSE AND IT STARTED A JOB AND I GAVE IT TO A LAWYER 'CAUSE I'M TIRED AND I DIDN'T HAVE TIME FOR PAPERWORK.
UM, THE LAWYER DIDN'T REALLY DO ANYTHING.
I DIDN'T REALLY HEAR ANYTHING AND I CAN SHOW YOU THE PAPER AND I CAN LEAVE IT.
IT'S HE FILLED IT OUT, TURNED IT IN, NOBODY LOOKED AT IT, IT WASN'T REVIEWED AND SENT BACK.
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AND THENSO THIS BRINGS US INTO THE THIRD YEAR AND THIS IS THE YEAR I'M LIKE, WELL NOW I NEED TO EDUCATE MYSELF ABOUT THE PROCESS.
I NEED TO GET INVOLVED AND I NEED TO ADVOCATE FOR MYSELF.
SO THAT'S WHERE I STARTED OFF.
I WALKED IN WITH A CMA REPORT.
I MADE A MEETING WITH DAN AND UM, HE MET WITH PLEXIGLASS AND HE SAYS, SHOW ME WHAT YOU HAVE.
AND I'M LIKE, WELL, WE HAVE A MEETING AND I'M LIKE, NOW IT'S THREE YEARS LATER, WE HAVE A MEETING AND I HAVE A REPORT.
SO HE'S LIKE, WELL, FINE, COME ON BACK.
HE GOES, YOU DO KNOW A CNA REPORT IS NOT A, YOU KNOW, AN OFFICIAL REPORT.
I JUST WANNA GIVE YOU A STARTING POINT WHERE YOU'RE AT AND WHERE OTHER PEOPLE SEE OUR HOUSE AT AS A FULL MARKET VALUE.
SO THEY HAVE US ASSESSED AT ME, ASSESSED AT 5 81 1.
WELL, THE FULL MARKET VALUE ON THIS PERSON'S REPORT IS, UM, LIKE 3 9400 WITH, I'M ON 4.26 ACRES AND SHE BRINGS IT TO FOUR 19 TO ALLOW FOR THE ACREAGE.
THIS IS A THREE BEDROOM, 1.1 BATH HOUSE, 2,500 SQUARE FEET WITH NO UPGRADES ON, SEPTIC ON.
SO I THINK EVERYBODY IN INSTANTANEOUSLY IN THEIR MIND AND SAID, THAT'S NOT NEARLY GONNA BE WORTH 5 81 OR YOU WOULDN'T FIND ONE CAN REPORT THAT.
I KNOW I WAS THINKING IT WAS WAY OFF AND I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, HEY, I'LL JUST BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION.
SO HE ASKED ME, UM, PROVIDE FOR ME A FULL MARKET REPLACEMENT VALUE.
PROVIDE FOR ME YOUR HOMEOWNER'S INSURANCE, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS A STRANGE REQUEST.
'CAUSE I'M LIKE, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY GONNA BE HIGHER, BUT OKAY, YOU KNOW, MY HOMEOWNER'S IUR INSURANCE, IT'S REPLACEMENT VALUE IS FIVE 30.
AGAIN, 50,000 BELOW WE'RE ON THE C ACT.
OKAY? SO REPLACING THE WHOLE THING IS 50,000 BELOW EXACT.
AND I SAID, I AM GONNA GET A PROFESSIONAL APPRAISAL.
WHO ARE YOU USING MR. QUESTION.
I SAID, WELL, I'LL BE USING IRA.
SO I WALKED OUT, MADE AN APPOINTMENT WITH IREM, THE PERSON FROM IREM PULLS UP IN MY DRIVEWAY AND HE JUST KIND OF STRUCK ME IMMEDIATELY AS SOMEBODY WHO WASN'T REALLY GONNA DO AN APPROPRIATE JOB.
UM, COULDN'T TELL YOU WHY OR WHAT, JUST THE WAY HE SMILED, THE WAY HE ROLLED UP.
SO I GET THE REPORT BACK FROM HIM AND IT'S FIVE 30, IRONICALLY, THE EXACT SAME NUMBER THAT IS MY FULL REPLACEMENT VALUE, WHICH IS THE ONLY PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT DAN HAD ASKED FOR.
SO MY FRIEND WHO'S THE REALTOR WHO PREPARED THE FIRST CMA, CALLED HIM AND SAID, TELL ME ABOUT THESE COMPS THAT YOU'VE USED.
AND, YOU KNOW, HE TRIED TO EXPLAIN 'EM AND SHE SAID, THESE ARE NOT EVEN APPROPRIATE COMPS.
AND HE GOES, I'M FRIENDS WITH DAN.
YOU KNOW, SO IMMEDIATELY THAT WAS NOT SOMETHING WE EXPECTED TO HEAR.
AND SO IMMEDIATELY THERE'S AN INAPPROPRIATENESS THERE.
YOU KNOW, I'M FRIENDS WITH DAN.
WE DIDN'T KNOW THIS WAS FOR A TAX ASSESSMENT AND THEY KNEW FULL WELL IT WAS FOR A TAX ASSESSMENT.
I'M NOT SELLING, I'M NOT GETTING A MORTGAGE.
SO I CALLED THE GENTLEMAN AND HE SAID, I KNOW YOU'RE UPSET.
I JUST WANT A FAIR ASSESSMENT OF MY HOME.
AND HE SAID, IF YOU CAN GET AN APPRAISAL AT A DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, AT A LOWER COST OR WHATEVER, I'LL REFUND YOUR MONEY.
NOW, PERSONALLY, I GIVE ASSESSMENTS EVERY SINGLE DAY.
AND I'M GONNA GUARANTEE YOU I'M NOT GIVING YOUR MONEY BACK.
'CAUSE I'M GONNA GUARANTEE YOU THE ASSESSMENT I'M GIVING YOU IS GONNA BE APPROPRIATE 'CAUSE YOUR HEALTHCARE IS INVOLVED SO THAT I DON'T RESPECT ALL THE WAY RIGHT AWAY.
AND HE SAID, I'LL GIVE YOU FOUR 50 CASH FOR YOUR HOUSE TOMORROW.
I'M LIKE, WELL, THAT'S AN INTERESTING STATEMENT BECAUSE THAT'S A FULL 80,000 BELOW WHAT YOU HAVEN'T ASSESSED AT.
SO I CALLED A GENTLEMAN AT VALUE PRO BY THE NAME OF, UM, TOM WITHERALL.
DID NOT TELL HIM ANYTHING BECAUSE I HAVE NO INTEREST.
I JUST WANNA KNOW WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE SEEING, YOU KNOW, SEEING THE HOUSE BACK.
SO TOM COMES OUT, DOES A FULL APPRAISAL, VERY PROFESSIONAL.
YOU CAN TELL THESE HUMAN BEINGS WHEN THEY WALK ON YOUR PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE DEALING WITH FINANCES AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
AND THEY LOOKED IN EVERY NEW BRAND AND, AND THE COMPS WERE APPROPRIATE.
SO MY FIRST CA CAME IN AT FOUR 19.
SO NOW I HAVE ANOTHER ONE AT FOUR 30.
THE APPRAISAL KIND OF MATCHES THE CMA.
SO I GET A THIRD CMA, NOT TELLING THIS HUMAN BEING WHAT I'M DOING.
JUST GONNA HAVE ANOTHER APPRAISAL.
THIS PERSON COMES IN AT 3 78, OF WHICH I HAVE COPIES, I HAVE COPIES OF LITERALLY EVERYTHING.
I JUST DIDN'T MAKE THEM FOR TODAY, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SEE THAT.
SO I HAVE THREE IN THE BALLPARK, AND THEN ONE WAY OUT OF BALLPARK.
SO I PRESENT THIS IREM DOES IMMEDIATELY RETURN MY MONEY.
DIDN'T EVEN ARGUE WITH THE SECOND APPRAISAL'S NUMBER, THE SECOND PROFESSIONAL'S NUMBER.
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THAT EMAIL.YES, I WILL DO, I CAN HAND THAT TO YOU.
THAT WOULD BE THE PIECE INFORMATION I'LL GIVE TO YOU.
UM, YES, I DO AGREE WITH THE FOUR 30.
I'LL GIVE YOU MAY I, I AGREE WITH THE FOUR 30, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE ONE YEAR TO EXAMINE THE INSIDE OF YOUR HOME.
AND I'M LIKE, HOW ABOUT YOU TAKE TODAY TO EXAMINE THE INSIDE OF MY HOME.
SO IF DAN WANTS A YEAR TO IN, TO INSPECT THE INSIDE OF MY HOME, I SAID, YOU CAN EX YOU CAN EXPLORE IT NOW, BUT TO A GOVERNMENT AGENCY, I'M NOT GONNA LEAVE MY DOOR OPEN FOR A WHOLE MONTH, FOR A WHOLE YEAR OF INSPECTIONS AT ANY SURPRISE MOMENT THAT YOU WOULD LIKE.
BESIDES THE FACT I DON'T EVEN HAVE TO GRANT RIGHT.
SO I'M SAYING, COME ON IN, COME LOOK.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE FIVE 80, YOU'RE GONNA SEE FOUR 30 AT THE MOST.
I GIVE HIM A DETAILED SCHEDULE OF WHAT I CAN, WHAT I, WHEN I'M AVAILABLE.
2:00 PM TO 5:00 PM 3:00 PM TO 6:00 PM LITERALLY FOR THE ENTIRE MONTH OF MAY COME IN ANY TIME, AT WHICH POINT I WAS TOLD TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT, TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT.
I'M LIKE, THIS IS AN ASSESSMENT OF MY HOME.
THIS ISN'T A MOBSTER NEGOTIATION.
SO I'M LIKE, LEAVE IT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A FAIR NUMBER.
WELL THEN YOU NEED TO GO IN FRONT OF THE BAR, FINE, I'LL GO IN FRONT OF THE BAR.
SO I'M BEING THREATENED WITH HAVING TO GO IN FRONT OF A COMMITTEE.
SO I GO IN FRONT OF THE COMMITTEE, I SEND THEM ALL MY INFORMATION, CNAS, ALL OF THESE OTHER THINGS, AND THEY AGREE WITH ME.
I SAY, FOUR 30 IS THE PRICE OF YOUR HOME.
FOUR 30 IS THE FULL MARKET VALUE OF YOUR HOME.
AND THEN THE EQUALIZATION RATE IN 2023 GOES FROM 37% TO 32% IN ERIE COUNTY, FOUR 30.
THEY APPLIED FOR 37% EQUALIZATION RATE WHEN THE TAX ROLLS COME OUT.
AND THE ONLY JOB OF THE TOWN ASSESSOR THAT I AM AWARE OF IS TO DETERMINE FULL MARKET VALUE, WHICH WAS DETERMINED FOUR TIMES FOR DAN AT FOUR 30.
AND BY A BOARD REVIEW, IF YOU LOOK ON THE TAX ROLLS UNLISTED AT 4 98.
SO WE PULLED A FAST ONE AND HAD I NOT NOTICED IT, I ONLY HAD UNTIL JULY 31ST TO GRIEVE IT.
SO HAD WE NOT LOOKED AT THE TOWN ROLES WHEN IT WENT OUT JULY 1ST, IT WOULD'VE JUST WENT BY THE WAYSIDE.
SO NO, I WANTED IT FOUR 30 AT THE 32% THAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS GETTING.
AND I CHECKED THE OTHER PART OF THE TAX ROLLS.
EVERYBODY ELSE IS AT 32% IN NOT SIMPLY PLAY.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO TELL DAN TO CHANGE MY NUMBERS.
SO HENCE WHY I WOULD HAVE TO GO TO SMALL CLAIMS FOR IT TO HAVE IT DONE.
BUT THIS IS ONE HOUSE, AND I DON'T THINK ANY OF THAT WAS PROFESSIONAL OR APPROPRIATE OR KIND OR RESPECTFUL OR REASONABLE OR ANY OF THE OTHER.
YOU MAY JUDGE IT AS ASSESS IT AS YOU SEE FIT.
BUT I WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE THAT THAT IS THE WAY SOMEBODY IS REPRESENTING YOU.
AND I ALSO DON'T THINK THAT IT'S, I DON'T, IT'S LEGAL GOING AND EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT I'VE PUT THIS IN FRONT OF, INCLUDING THE ASSESSOR'S ASSOCIATION IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK, INCLUDING OTHER RIGHT, 10 MINUTES, OKAY? AND INCLUDING OTHER APPRAISERS, NOBODY SAID TO ME, YOU'RE READING THIS WRONG OR WHATEVER IT IS.
THEY SAID, THAT'S COMPLETELY INCORRECT AND WE'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT.
SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF AN APPOINTED EMPLOYEE'S BEHAVIOR.
AND I ALSO WANTED TO, IF YOU CAN CORRECT IT, PLEASE CORRECT IT.
AND IF YOU CAN'T CORRECT IT, PLEASE LET ME KNOW BEFORE THE 31ST SO I CAN TAKE ANOTHER STEP TO PROTECT MYSELF.
AND IT'S BEEN A THREE YEAR ENDEAVOR.
I'M BASICALLY PAYING FOR TWO HOMES ALMOST.
ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO BE HEARD, MR. CHAP? I'M VERY BRIEF IN TALKING TO SOME OF MY FELLOW VETERANS, THEY ASKED ME IF
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I WOULD COME AND JUST VOICE OUR DISPLEASURE WITH THE FACT THAT, UH, A MOTION TO PUT UP ANOTHER FLAG CALL COULD NOT EVEN BE A SECOND FROM THIS BOARD.UM, AND WE'RE VERY DISAPPOINTED.
IT WOULD'VE PUT AN END TO THE CONTROVERSY EVERY YEAR BECAUSE YOU HAVE, UH, A SEPARATE FLAG BULB FOR WHATEVER FLAG YOU WANT PUT UP THERE.
COST, I, I UNDERSTAND IS MINIMAL.
UH, AND JUST VERY, VERY DISAPPOINTED.
UM, I BEHALF YOUR UNITED COUNCIL MEMBER TAXPAYERS, WHICH OUR NAME, UH, AND LAST MONTH, UM, THE BOARD MEMBERS, UM, HOPE, UH, ASKED ME ABOUT WAS IT JUST THE ONE GROUP? WELL, IT'S NOT, NOT JUST LOTS AND PARK, THEY'RE ESTABLISHED GROUP AND ORGANIZING.
I HAVE OTHER GROUPS, RIGHT AS WE SPEAK.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR A SECRETARY.
WE'RE TRYING TO FIND, SO WE'RE GETTING ORGANIZED.
I THINK, UM, YOU GUYS MIGHT REMEMBER STEVE
SO I JUST WANTED TO BE MORE TRANSPARENT.
I ALSO WANNA THANK ON BEHALF OF THE, UM, ASSOCIATION WISE IS THAT, UH, WE PUT THE SIGN, A SIGN UP FOR THE BEACH, UM, AS IN ANY GROUP, SOME PEOPLE LIKE IT, SOME PEOPLE DON'T.
BUT IT WAS A STEP RECOLLECTION.
UH, I HAD A CON CONVERSATION WITH MR. NEY, WHICH WAS VERY PROACTIVE AND THANK HIM VERY MUCH.
I'M HOPING AT THE END OF WHEN YOU DO YOUR REPORT, YOU CONFIRM BASICALLY WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WHERE, WHERE THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT FOR THE LED, UM, AND TO ANYBODY ELSE INTERESTED, IT WAS TRUE THAT IT GOES BY THE RFPS.
I ALSO RESEARCH, AND YOU WERE CORRECT, THAT, UM, THE BOARD AT THAT TIME APPROVED TO PUT AN LED SIGN, NO DESIGNATED SITE YET, BUT ALL THE CODING AND EVERYTHING WAS APPROVED AND THE RFPS WERE DEPENDENT ON THAT FOR WHAT IT WOULD COST.
SO THAT WAS A SIMPLE, SIMPLE, DIRECT ANSWER AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
I JUST HOPE WE CAN CONFIRM THAT TO VIN.
AND THEN IF YOU COULD ANSWER, IS THAT THE SAME WITH SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS ARE STILL ON THE TABLE? IS THAT THE SAME PROCEDURE OR ARE, IS THERE DESIGNATED MONEY THAT WAS IN PROJECTS THAT HASN'T BEEN USED YET, OR IT'S AN INTERESTING, I'LL TALK ABOUT YOU COULD ADDRESS THAT.
OTHER THAN THAT, I WANNA THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO YOUR JOB.
ANYBODY ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC? I'D LIKE TO THANK, UH, THE
IT'S GONNA HELP WITH THE EVANGELISM AND THE TOWN OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR UPPING THEIR, UH, PATROL IN THAT AREA.
PC ONE, EVERYBODY ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC.
THIS WILL BRING US THE REPORTS FROM DEPARTMENT HEADS AND WE'LL START WITH TRAFFIC.
SAFETY, SAFETY, UH, NOTHING TO REPORT.
UH, SUPERINTENDENT OF PUBLIC WORKS.
UH, READY TO BE READY NEXT MONTH.
OR, UH,
JUST GONNA START RAMPING UP, UM, WITH, WITH THE ROOF STRUCTURAL STUFF.
UH, NEXT COUPLE WEEKS, INSULATION AND THE MENT.
THE FIRST, SECOND WEEK OF AUGUST.
UM, I REALLY ELECTRICAL SERVICE THAT KEPT ME UP AT NIGHT HAS BEEN IN PLACE AND WAS PASSED SECTION HERE.
THANK YOU, SUPERINTENDENT HUGHES.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, I THANK BOARD FOR APPRECIATE ALSO, UH, ZONE THREE BRUSHES, WEEK, LARGE TRASH.
UM, WE'RE WORKING ON THE PUMPS OUT WITH THIS MANAGEMENT.
HOPEFULLY, UH, WE HAVE A NICE, UH, NICE PICKING UP THE LARGE TRASH.
AND, UH, THURSDAY AND FRIDAY WE, AND EVENING ACTUALLY, UM, THE STREETS.
UH, PLANNING FOR OUR JULY 19TH MEETING.
JULY, UM, THERE'S ABOUT 17 ITEMS ON OUR LIST.
UM, ONE'S A BIG ONE, TOWN HOMES.
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UM, AND THENUM, TWO, UH, RE THAT WE DISCUSS LEGAL, HAPPY TO REPORT THAT.
EFFECTIVE JULY 1ST, WE HAVE A SIGNED LEASE WITH THE FRONTIER CENTRAL SCHOOL DISTRICT, UH, FOR USE OF THEIR, UH, WITH OUR SENIOR CENTER FROM JULY ONE OF THIS YEAR UNTIL JUNE 30TH, 2024.
OUR PROGRAM WILL BE ABLE TO RUN UNINTERRUPTED AND AS RESIDENTS, AND WE ALL HAVE BEEN USED TO, TO SEEING IT AND UTILIZING IT, UM, AND HAVING IT BENEFITS OUR, OUR RESIDENTS AND THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE, STARTING JUNE 30TH, 2024.
AND FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE LEASE THE NEXT TWO YEARS WHEN WE'RE GOING TO SEE A REDUCED FOOTPRINT IN THE SPACE.
AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET CREATIVE ABOUT WHERE AND HOW WE OFFER SERVICES.
BUT FOR NOW, WE HAVE SOME TIME TO, TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS AND HAVE OUR PROGRAMMING BE LARGELY UNAFFECTED, AT LEAST FOR THE FIRST YEAR, WITH THE DECREASE IN FOOTPRINT IS GOING TO BECOME A DECREASE IN RENT.
SO YOU'LL SEE A SAVINGS THERE.
AND ONCE FRONTIER STARTS HAVING A FOOTPRINT IN THE SPACE, THEY'RE GONNA TAKE OVER SNOW REMOVAL AND LAWN CARE.
SO THAT'S GONNA HELP US UTILIZE THE SAVINGS TOO, BEST WE COULD DO, AND LEAST WITH THE RESULTS.
WHICH, UM, WHERE I JUST WANNA ANNOUNCE THAT THE TAX ROLL HAS BEEN FORWARDED TO YOUR COUNTY.
UM, WE'VE MADE THE FINAL PAYMENT TO THEM AND NOW WE'RE GETTING READY FOR SCHOOL.
IT BRINGS US TO REPORTS FROM THE BOARD COUNCIL MEMBER FARRELL.
UM, FIRST, ANOTHER REMINDER, SINCE THIS IS OUR LAST MEETING BEFORE THE BLAST ON THE BEACH ON JULY 29TH, THE REJUVENATION COMMITTEE HAS BEEN WORKING HARD TO PLAN THIS ANNUAL EVENT.
UM, THERE WAS A MEETING WITH THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE ALSO INVOLVED WITH PLANNING LAST FRIDAY.
UM, IT REALLY IS A TEAM EFFORT, AND THANKS SHOULD GO TO EVERYONE FROM EMS AND SEAN KARATE TO CHIEF AND, AND EVERYONE IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, OUR BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS HIGHWAY.
UH, THERE'S JUST SO MANY PEOPLE THAT REALLY WORK VERY HARD.
OUR FIRE COMPANIES IN THE, IN THE COMMUNITY AND, AND THE COMMITTEE, THE THEMSELVES, THEY'RE ALL WORKING VERY HARD.
AND SO NOW WE JUST, UM, NEED TO CROSS OUR FINGERS FOR GOOD WEATHER.
BUT IT IS ALWAYS A TERRIFIC EVENT THAT, UM, BRINGS THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER.
THERE'S MORE INFORMATION ON THE WEBSITE.
I ALSO, I KNOW I MENTIONED THIS BEFORE, BUT WE HAVE OUR OPENING CEREMONY AT FOUR 30, AND I INVITE, UH, MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS TO BE THERE AT FOUR 30.
IF YOU CAN BE THERE, LET ME KNOW.
I'LL GET YOU A PARKING PASS BECAUSE IT IS A POPULAR EVENT.
AND, UM, THERE WILL BE A SHUTTLE SERVICE AVAILABLE.
SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE COMMUNITY ON THAT DAY.
I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, ALSO THANK, UH, KEN AND ED BECAUSE THEY WERE HELPFUL RECENTLY.
WE GET THESE YEARLY FROM RESIDENTS WITH CONCERNS ABOUT THE UPKEEP OF SOME OF THE, UM, ROUNDABOUTS ON TOWN PROPERTY OR THEIR, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, COUNTY OR STATE ROADS.
BUT THEY'RE WITHIN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, SUCH AS THE ONE AT, UM, SOUTH PARK AND BIGTREE.
AND THEY ARE CONCERNED WITH THE UPKEEP.
UH, I CONTACTED THE PROPER AUTHORITIES, AS DID KEN AND ED, AND THE, THE ROUNDABOUT WAS CLEANED UP.
THE RESIDENTS WERE VERY HAPPY.
UM, AND THANK YOU FOR THE PROGRESS THAT'S BEEN MADE ON THE SENIOR POOL.
I KNOW THAT I'M IN CONTACT WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO REALLY BENEFIT FROM, UM, THAT, THE USE OF THAT POOL.
AND SO I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S EFFORTS TO MOVE THAT ALONG.
FINALLY, THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO COMES OUT.
WHENEVER WE HAVE A A PUBLIC HEARING, IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO HEAR ALL OF THE CONCERNS AND TO SEE EVERY ISSUE FROM ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES.
AND SOMETIMES IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO MELD ALL OF THOSE TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH THE BEST POSSIBLE SOLUTION.
BUT IT STARTS BY HEARING EVERYONE'S CONCERNS, BRAINSTORMING, SEEING WHAT THE DIFFERENT IMPLICATIONS ARE, AND THEN WORKING TOGETHER.
I LIKE THE WAY SEVERAL PEOPLE MENTIONED, UH, COLLABORATION.
I KNOW WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THIS DURING, WHEN WE WERE DEVELOPING THE COMP PLAN.
UM, NOT JUST IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS, BUT THERE'S MANY SITUATIONS WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE, WHERE BUSINESSES COME IN CONTACT WITH OR, YOU KNOW, THAT LINE.
THERE'S GONNA BE SOME, THERE'S GONNA BE LINES EVERYWHERE, WHETHER BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT ZONING AREAS AND WANTING TO BE VERY, VERY CONSCIOUS THAT WE DEVELOP, UM, WAYS IN WHICH WE CAN BE AS, UH, WE CAN MAKE THAT TRANSITION AS SMOOTH AS POSSIBLE.
AND THEN WE CAN RESPECT WHOEVER'S ON WHATEVER SIDE OF WHERE THE ZONING COMES TOGETHER ON THOSE DIFFERENT
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LINES.AND, AND EVERY SCENARIO, EVERY SITUATION IS DIFFERENT.
THAT'S WHY THAT DIALOGUE IS SO IMPORTANT.
SO THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO ALWAYS, WHEN YOU COME OUT TO, UM, EXPRESS YOUR THOUGHTS AND YOUR CONCERNS AT, AT THESE MEETINGS, IT'S, IT'S GREATLY APPRECIATED.
I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT.
THEY WERE REFERENCED SEVERAL TIMES THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT, AND I KNOW THEY'VE HAD NUMEROUS RETIREMENTS AND THEY'VE BEEN REBUILDING THIS YEAR.
AND I HAVE ALSO HEARD WONDERFUL THINGS FROM RESIDENTS ABOUT SOME OF THE NEW HIRES AND HOW THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT IS PULLING TOGETHER.
SO I TRULY APPRECIATE THEIR CONTINUED EFFORT TO PUT, UM, A FACE ON THAT DEPARTMENT TO BE FORWARD FACING INTO THE COMMUNITY AND THE RESIDENTS ANSWERING ALL THE QUESTIONS, BECAUSE THERE ARE LOTS OF QUESTIONS WHEN YOU'RE SWITCHING FROM, UH, AN INDUSTRIAL ZONING TO A RESIDENTIAL ZONING OR COMMERCIAL ZONING.
IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE ZONING RULES, YOU WILL HAVE LOTS OF QUESTIONS.
SO I THINK THOSE EMPLOYEES WERE WORKING HARD TO ANSWER ALL THOSE QUESTIONS WITH THE RESIDENTS.
THAT BEING SAID, I ALSO THINK THE PUBLIC, UM, THIS PAST MONTH WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR NUMEROUS BOARDS, AND I TRULY APPRECIATE THE PUBLIC COMING OUT.
I FEEL LIKE EVERY TIME WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS, WE GET MORE AND MORE RESPONSE, AND THAT'S GOOD.
IT SHOWS US THAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE INTERESTED AND THEY'RE WATCHING AND THEY'RE ENGAGED, AND THEY WANNA BE PARTNERS IN THIS, AND THAT MAKES FOR AN EVEN STRONGER COMMUNITY.
SO I THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME AND COMING OUT AND BEING CIVIL AND SHARING YOUR IDEAS AND SHARING YOUR THOUGHTS SO THAT WE CAN MAKE BETTER DECISIONS FOR YOU.
MY, UM, YOU CERTAINLY HAVE HAD AN INCREASE IN PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
THANKS EVERYBODY FOR, FOR HANGING IN THERE WITH US.
UM, I, I DON'T HAVE A LOT TO ADD, BUT, BUT AS THE LIAISON TO THE HE COALITION FOR EQUITY AND INCLUSION AND LIAISON TO THE VETERANS COMMITTEE, I FEEL COMPELLED TO RESPOND TO, UM, MR. CHAPMAN'S CONCERN.
UM, I KNOW THE ISSUE WAS, WAS SEEMINGLY RESOLVED, UH, WITH WHAT THE CONCERNS THAT NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED WERE ADDRESSED.
UM, SO WHEN THE RESOLUTION WAS INTRODUCED BY COUNCIL MEMBER FERRELL OR THERE DID NOT SEEM TO BE ANY NEED FOR AN ADDITIONAL POLL, UM, TO RECTIFY THE ISSUE THAT WAS CONCERNED.
THAT BEING SAID, UM, AS SOMEBODY WHO HELPED INITIATE THE FIRST FLAG RAISING TWO YEARS AGO, WE DID THOROUGH RESEARCH AS FAR AS WHAT WAS APPROPRIATE AND ADEQUATE THROUGHOUT VARIOUS MUNICIPALITIES.
UM, I EVEN NOTICED THAT OUR FRIENDS AT THE FORD PLANT HAD THE SAME EXACT DISPLAY THAT WE HAD THIS YEAR, STARTING WITH THE AMERICAN FLAG AT THE TOP.
AND WHILE I THOUGHT THIS ISSUE WAS TO REST, IT, IT SEEMS THAT MAYBE IT HASN'T, UM, IF THEY'RE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF PEOPLE.
SO I'D LIKE TO ENCOURAGE, YOU KNOW, MORE CONVERSATION.
I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN AN EVENT THAT HAS BEEN REALLY MEANINGFUL TO A LARGE GROUP OF YOUTH IN THE COMMUNITY AND, AND PERHAPS THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, HAVE CONVERSATION THERE.
VERY FLAG IN, UH, FOR P-W-M-I-A OR A BRANCHING SERVICE FLAG AND THAT'S IT.
NO LOAN, NO COMPANIES, NO NOTHING.
THAT'S, IT'S EITHER AMERICAN FLAG AND THE POW FLAG AND EVERYTHING ELSE GOES ON A SEPARATE FLAG.
I'D BE CURIOUS TO SEE YOUR RESEARCH.
I, I WILL MATTER OF FACT, MR. CHAIRMAN, THE PUBLIC EXPRESSION IS OVER.
THIS PORTION IS RESERVED ENTIRELY FOR REPORTS.
MENTION, AND I'D LIKE TO THANK MR. HONNEY FOR GIVING INFORMATION ABOUT THE TAXPAYERS ASSOCIATION WAS INQUIRING BEFORE, I KNOW WE LIVE NEAR EACH OTHER.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A NEW ONE POPPING UP OUTSIDE OF LOCKLEY PARK.
UM, SO THAT ORGANIZED AND ROSE, OF COURSE, WE'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THAT GROUP.
UH, I JUST WANNA, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, UH, LIKE KAREN, THANK BOB FOR, UH, HELPING WITH THE, THE TAXPAYER THAT THOSE ARE GREAT GROUPS.
AND AGAIN, MORE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, MORE INTERACTION, MORE FEEDBACK.
UM, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO OUR JOB BETTER AND, AND, AND HELP, YOU KNOW, THE TOWN IN TERMS OF THE BUDGET.
UM, BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENS EVERY YEAR IS, UM, RIGHT AROUND NOW ACTUALLY WE START TO THINK ABOUT, UM, WHAT THE BUDGET BUDGET'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.
AND SO, UH, RANDY WORKS CLOSELY, THE SUPERVISOR WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS GATHERING INFORMATION, WORKING REALLY CLOSELY WITH, UH, KIM AND PAT FINANCE, UH, DEPARTMENT.
AND, UH, WE ESSENTIALLY TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE THE NEEDS OF THE TOWN THAT WE THINK WE CAN ANTICIPATE FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR.
AND, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF GIVE AND TAKE AND, UM, CONVERSATIONS THAT ULTIMATELY END UP WITH, UM, BUDGETED LINED ITEMS FOR EACH DEPARTMENT.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE DEPARTMENT THINKS THEY NEED X EQUIPMENT, THEY PUT IT IN THE BUDGET, AND THEN THROUGHOUT THE NEXT YEAR THEY'VE GOT THAT LINE ITEM FOR THAT PARTICULAR, UH, ITEM.
A LOT OF TIMES WHAT HAPPENS, OF COURSE, IS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR SOMETHING WILL COME UP THAT WASN'T THOUGHT ABOUT IN ADVANCE AND WASN'T IN THE BUDGET.
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SO THERE'S NOT A PARTICULAR LINED ITEM FOR IT, BUT WE DON'T MAYBE NECESSARILY WANNA WAIT AN ENTIRE YEAR OR MORE, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE THAT ITEM IN.SO IN THOSE CASES, UM, WE MAY PASS A RESOLUTION THAT SAYS THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S COME UP THAT, UH, WE'D LIKE TO DO.
IS THERE CONSENSUS? IS THERE APPROVAL THAT THIS IS AN EXPENSE THAT, YOU KNOW, AS A BOARD WE'RE WILLING TO TAKE, WE WOULD PASS A RESOLUTION, UM, PUT IT UP TO RFP, YOU KNOW, SUCH AS THE LED, LIKE, UM, AND, UH, IF IT GOES THROUGH, IF WE, YOU KNOW, ENDED UP HAVING, UH, THE BIDDERS AND QUALIFYING, UH, THEN WE LOOK TO THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT AS TO WHERE THE BEST PLACE TO HAVE MONEY.
BECAUSE OF COURSE, WITH A $50 MILLION BUDGET, USUALLY THESE SMALLER TICKET ITEMS, 5,000, 10,000, 30,000, UM, AS LONG AS AGAIN, WE'RE IN, IN AGREEMENT THAT WE SH THAT IT'S A, AN EXPENSE, WE'RE ALL WILLING TO GO OUT TO OUR P AND PAY.
UM, THEY'LL GIVE US THE DIRECTION AS TO WHAT PART OF THE BUDGET WE CAN TAKE THAT MONEY.
UH, AND, AND JUST TO, TO FURTHER ADD TO COUNCIL MEMBER CONLEY'S, UM, THOUGHTS ON, ON THAT ISSUE.
BUDGET IS, IS SIMPLY A PLAN FOR SPENDING FOR NEXT YEAR.
IF THAT MONEY DOESN'T GET SPENT, IT GOES BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND AND IT'S NO LONGER IN THE BUDGET FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR.
IF IT'S NOT SPENT, THE MONEY STILL EXISTS.
IT DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE, BUT IT NOW GOES INTO THE GENERAL FUND.
HOWEVER, THERE IS ALSO PROJECTS THAT WE BOND MONEY FOR AND WE CAN BOND MONEY FOR A PROJECT AND WE HAVE TO USE THAT MONEY FOR THAT PROJECT.
WE CANNOT GO BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND.
IT CANNOT BE USED FOR PURPOSES THAT ARE NOT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE BONDED THAT FOR.
THE TOWN HAS BORROWED MONEY THREE YEARS AGO THAT WE'RE JUST SPENDING THIS YEAR.
YOU CAN POINT TO THE PANDEMIC, YOU CAN POINT TO TURNOVER IN DEPARTMENT HEADS.
THERE'S PLENTY OF REASONS WHY IT HAS TAKEN US THREE YEARS TO SPEND SOME OF THIS MONEY, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENING ANYMORE.
WE HAVE A FULL SLATE OF DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT ARE PUSHING THESE PROJECTS FORWARD.
WE HAVE AN ACTIVE AND ENGAGED BOARD THAT'S MAKING SURE THE MONEY THAT WE'RE BORROWING AND PAYING INTEREST ON IS GONNA BE PUT TO GOOD USE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG.
I WANNA THANK, UH, OUR TOWN ATTORNEY, UH, FOR NEGOTIATING THAT SHORT TERM LEASE OF THE SENIOR SENATE.
THIS IS GOING TO HAVE A VERY SIGNIFICANT IMPACT, NOT ONLY ON THE PROGRAMMING OF OUR YOUTH RECREATION AND SENIOR SERVICES DEPARTMENT, BUT AS WE LOOK TO FUND OUR CAPITAL NEEDS MOVING FORWARD.
A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, WE DID NOT ANTICIPATE HAVING TO SPEND MONEY FOR A NEW HOME FOR OUR DEPARTMENT OF YOUTH RECREATION AND SENIOR SERVICES IS GOING TO BE EXPENSIVE.
IT'S GOING TO REDUCE OUR CAPACITY TO FUND OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE'VE BEEN PLANNING.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SCALING BACK ON SOME OF THE PLANS FOR THE ICE AGREEMENT BECAUSE OF THESE ADDITIONAL EXPENSES THAT WE NOW HAVE BECAUSE THE FRONTIER SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS TAKEN THEIR BUILDING BACK.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW AND REALIZE A LOT OF THIS COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED.
THE LEASE AGREEMENT IN QUESTION THAT THE TOWN THOUGHT WE HAD 19 YEARS WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUY FOR A DOLLAR WAS NOT NEGOTIATED WITH THE BEST INTEREST OF HAMBURG RESIDENTS.
THIS IS A LEASE AGREEMENT THAT DID NOT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE VERY STRICT RULES THAT COME WITH EDUCATION LAW IN NEW YORK STATE AS IT RELATES TO REAL PROPERTY.
HINDSIGHT IS CERTAINLY 2020, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT THE TOWN WOULD BE BETTER OFF IF BACK WHEN WE WERE MAKING THESE DECISIONS, WE HAD BROUGHT IN QUALIFIED COMPETENT LEGAL REPRESENTATION TO HELP US MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD A LEASE AGREEMENT THAT WOULD PROTECT THE FINANCIAL INTERESTS OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG.
THAT BEING SAID, WE ARE WHERE WE ARE NOW.
WE HAVE A COMMITTEE THAT WE ARE IN PANELING TO TALK ABOUT IDEAS AND WE HAVE SOME INTERESTING OPTIONS AND WE'RE DOING SOME BRAINSTORMING.
I'M CONFIDENT THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO FIND A HOME FOR THOSE PROGRAMS FOR THE LONG TERM.
I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE BEACH.
WE'VE HEARD ALL A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THE PARKING SITUATION AT THE BEACH AND UM, I HAVE BEEN SPENDING MORE AND MORE TIME ON OUR WATERFRONT IN HAMBURG.
IT'S CERTAINLY A GREAT PERK OF THE JOB.
UM, BUT THE PARKING SITUATION AT THE TOWN BEACH UNDER THE WATCHFUL OF MAUREEN RANDY IS UH, PHENOMENAL.
I, I WAS, I WAS DOWN THERE ON SUNDAY AND I REPORTED BEFORE I'D SEEN 40 CARS
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WITH MAYBE THREE STICKERS.I SAW 40 CARS AND MAYBE THERE WAS THREE WITHOUT.
AND I WASN'T LOOKING THAT HARD.
IT COULD HAVE BEEN ON A DIFFERENT PART OF THE CAR.
I DON'T THINK WE'LL GET TO A HUNDRED PERCENT COMPLIANCE.
THERE'S A LOT OF ENTRANCES AND PEOPLE GET VERY CREATIVE NOW THEY ACCESS THAT BEACH.
FINALLY, I KNOW WE HAD A, A PRESENTATION DURING THE WORK SESSION FROM SUPERINTENDENT AT HUGHES, AND IN THAT PRESENTATION I THANK THE SUPERINTENDENT FOR BRINGING THIS SITUATION TO THE TOWN BOARD IN REAL TIME WHEN WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT PROACTIVELY.
THAT HASN'T BEEN THE CASE IN THE TOWN OF PAMPER.
WE'VE HAD DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE GONE WELL OVER BUDGET AND AT THE END OF THE YEAR THEY'VE MOVED A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY AROUND TO FILL THE GAPS.
THE DANGER IN THAT APPROACH IS WE CAN'T MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS WHEN IT COMES TO BUDGET TIME.
SO NOW WE HAVE A MORE REALISTIC BUDGET NUMBER WHEN IT COMES TO OVERTIME FOR THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT.
AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING IN THE BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS DEPARTMENT TO BRING THAT SAME PHILOSOPHY TO OUR BUDGET.
SO I JUST WANNA SHARE SOME NUMBERS WITH YOU IN 2022 FOR OVERTIME IN THE BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS DEPARTMENT, WE BUDGETED $120,000 FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR.
WE SPENT $232,357 AND 97 CENTS ALMOST DOUBLE WHAT WE HAD BUDGETED.
WE SAW THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE NEEDED TO ADDRESS.
WE SAW THAT THERE WAS CERTAINLY A NEED FOR OVERTIME FOR SPECIFIC PROJECTS, BUT WE WORKED WITH THE DEPARTMENT TO COME UP WITH A REALISTIC NUMBER TO BUDGET FOR OVERTIME.
YOU'LL SEE THAT WE BUDGETED $135,000.
IT WAS A $15,000 INCREASE FROM THE BUDGETED AMOUNT FOR 2022, BUT WELL BELOW ALMOST $100,000 BELOW THE ACTUAL OVERTIME BUDGET IN 2022.
I'M VERY PLEASED TO REPORT THAT YEAR TO DATE JULY 14TH, 2023.
WE ARE AT $69,849 AND 99 CENTS IN OVERTIME.
AGAIN, OUR BUDGETED AMOUNT FOR THE YEAR IS $135,000.
SO WE ARE EXACTLY WHERE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE IN TERMS OF OUR BUDGETING FOR OVERTIME IN THE BUILDINGS THROUGH BRONX DEPARTMENT.
NOW, SOME OF YOU MAY BE ASKING WHERE DID THOSE OVERTIME SAVINGS COME FROM? WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DIG INTO THE NUMBERS AND THERE HAS BEEN SOME SAVINGS HERE AND THERE.
THE MOST SIGNIFICANT OF WHICH IS A $32,000 SAVINGS WHEN IT COMES TO THE OVERTIME THAT RELATES TO THE ADMINISTRATION OF OUR BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS DEPARTMENT.
SO IN 2022 YEAR TO DATE, AFTER SIX MONTHS, OUR WORKING CREW CHIEFS HAD RECEIVED $55,954 91 CENTS IN OVERTIME HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR, I'M PLEASED TO REPORT THAT SAME POSITION HAS ONLY BURNED THROUGH $23,848 AND 55 CENTS.
NOW, THAT IS SPREAD ACROSS MULTIPLE POSITIONS, BUT A SIGNIFICANT AND MARKED IMPROVEMENT.
AND I WOULD SAY THAT IT CAN BE TIED BACK COMPLETELY TO ACCOUNTABILITY, HAVING AN DEPARTMENT HEAD IN THE BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS DEPARTMENT, WORKING WITH THE STAFF AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE ACTING AS EFFICIENTLY AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.
SO MR. RIVERA HAD TO LEAVE EARLY TONIGHT, BUT I WANTED TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE WE'RE TIGHTENING THINGS UP WHEN IT COMES TO THE BUDGET.
WE'RE CERTAINLY NOT AFRAID TO PAY OUR EMPLOYEES THE WAGES THAT THEY DESERVE AND TO GET GOOD WORK OUT OF OUR EMPLOYEES, BUT WE'RE BRINGING INCREASED ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE BUDGETING PROCESS AND TO THE DEPARTMENTS.
SO KUDOS TO MR. RIVERA AND HIS TEAM FOR CERTAINLY DOING MORE WITH LESS.
AND, UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR TONIGHT.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
MY COUNCIL MEMBER HO IN FAVOR THE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.