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FOLKS, WE'RE GONNA OPEN UP THE, UH, WORK SESSION, THE HENRY TOWN BOARD, AND I WOULD ASK YOU TO PLEASE JOIN ME, UH, IN THE BUDGET FLAG, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA REPUBLIC FROM WHICH EXTENDS ATION HUNDRED ISLAND JUSTICE.ALRIGHT, WELCOME TO EVERYBODY THAT'S JOINING US HERE AT THE MEETING, AS WELL AS THOSE WHO ARE VIEWING FROM HOME.
WE HAVE A PRETTY BUSY AGENDA FOR THE WORK SESSION.
UH, WE'RE GOING TO BE STARTING OFF WITH A PRESENTATION FROM DAN BUR FROM BLUE ZONES TO LOOK AT THE FRONTIER OF MIDDLE SCHOOL, UH, AMSTEL ROAD CORRIDOR.
UH, WE WILL THEN HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM JOSH ROGERS FROM WENDELL ON SOME PLANNING ISSUES.
AND THEN AT SIX 15, WE'LL HEAR FROM KIM MASON, WHO IS THE ATTORNEY REPRESENTING ALCHEMY SCHILLERS.
UH, AROUND SIX 30 OR SO, WE INTEND TO AURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS MATTERS RELATED TO PERSONNEL AND POTENTIAL LITIGATION.
WE'LL OPEN UP THE MEETING WITH, UH, MR. BURDEN'S PRESENTATION, AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT, UH, THIS IS MR. BURDEN'S SECOND TIME HERE IN THE WORKING WITH THE TOWN OF HAMBURG.
HE'S PREVIOUSLY WORKED WITH THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURG ON ROUNDABOUTS PROJECT.
UM, HE WAS WITH US A COUPLE MONTHS BACK TO LOOK AT A ROUNDABOUT AT THE INTERSECTION OF CLARK AND MCKINLEY STREETS, AND WE'VE BROUGHT HIM BACK MORE RECENTLY, UH, TO LOOK AT AMSTEL ROAD BY FRONTIER MIDDLE SCHOOL.
OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST, UH, FEW DAYS, WE'VE BEEN ENGAGING WITH FOLKS FROM THE SCHOOL AS WELL AS THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY.
WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE A GREAT PARTNERSHIP IN THE SCHOOL.
CHRIS TH HERE, UH, WHO WELCOMED US INTO THE SCHOOL, GAVE US SPACE, AND ALSO SHARED HIS THOUGHTS ON WHAT THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT COULD AND SHOULD LOOK LIKE TO KEEP STUDENTS SAFE AND CONNECT NEIGHBOR NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MR. BEVERLY.
AND, UH, AM I SITTING IN THE RIGHT PLACE? EVERYBODY, WE SEE THE SPRING
UH, THIS HAS BEEN A DELIGHTFUL PROJECT.
THE BOARD, UH, APPROVED MO MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT JUST ON SEPTEMBER 11TH.
WE'RE SUPPOSED WE HAVE IT FINISHED BY THE END OF THIS WEEK,
SO, I DON'T THINK THERE'S BEEN A PROJECT IN AMERICAN HISTORY THAT'S BEEN PERFORMED THIS FAST.
AND I THINK, UH, AND I HOPE, UH, YOU, UH, CAN SEE, UH, WITH, WITH SUCH AN AMAZING TEAM THAT WE WERE, WE WERE ABLE TO ASSEMBLE, WE PUT FORTH QUITE A NUMBER OF EVENTS, WHICH YOU CAN SEE HIGHLIGHTED HERE.
AND, UH, WE'RE ABOUT READY TO PUT A BOW
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ON THE PROJECT AND DELIVER IT TO YOU.BUT I WANNA SHARE, UH, THAT, UH, YOUR COMMUNITY IS NOT ALONE ON HAVING FAILED CHILDREN IN GETTING THEM TO AND FROM SCHOOL.
WE USED TO HAVE OVER 60% OF CHILDREN GETTING TO SCHOOL, WALKING OR BIKING.
IT'S NOW DOWN TO LESS THAN 12%.
AND, AND IN THIS PARTICULAR SCHOOL, EVEN LESS THAN THAT, UH, THERE ARE, UH, PATTERNS THAT WE NOW KNOW THAT WE NEED, UH, TO BRING BACK WALKABILITY, BICYCLING.
BUT ONE OF THE BIG ONES IS TO ASSURE LOAD SPEED, UH, ON THE, UH, NEAR APPROACH TO THE SCHOOL.
AND THEN THE PATTERN OF THE DROP OFF, I WAS ABLE TO GET OUT AND OBSERVE, UH, THE PARENT DROP OFF.
AND, UM, UH, UH, FIRST OF ALL, UH, THE CARS ARE POINTING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION FOR THE BEST SAFETY.
ANYBODY SEE THAT YOU REALLY SHOULD BE DISCHARGING THE, THE STUDENTS ON THE PASSENGER SIDE, NOT THE DRIVER'S SIDE OF JUST CAUSES ALL KINDS OF, UH, UH, INAPPROPRIATE SAFETY.
BUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF STUDENTS ARE ARRIVING BY SCHOOL BUS.
UM, ONE OF THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE I'VE SEEN.
SO, UH, THIS IS THE CURRENT DROP OFF PATTERN, DROP PATTERN.
AND, UH, AND I'M GONNA SUGGEST THAT WE REVERSE THIS PATTERN AND GO TO ONE WHERE WE ARE DOING THE DROP OFF, CORRECT, UH, CORRECTLY.
AND THEN, UH, BRING, BRING, UH, THE TRAFFIC, UH, MANAGED BACK TO, TO THE STREET OUR APPROACH, UH, FIRST OF ALL, TO HAVE A GREAT ADVISORY TEAM JOIN US OUT IN THE FIELD, INCLUDING SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS AND, UH, OB OBSERVING THE STUDENTS, UH, WITH, UH, DR.
CHRIS, UH, FUMAN, UH, BEING ABLE TO, UM, SHOW US WHAT'S GOING ON.
UH, WE HAD A NICE WORKSHOP ON SATURDAY, AND, UH, LEARNED A LOT.
UH, WE GOT A LOT OF INPUT FROM OUR PARTICIPANTS.
AND THEN TODAY, WE WERE ABLE TO BRING OUR GO BIKE TEAM.
THEY ALSO WORKED ON THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, AND REALLY, UH, CHECKED OUT ALL THE DETAILS.
THEY ARE ACTUALLY RIGHT NOW WORKING UP THE COST FOR THE PROJECT TO STAY WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF, UH, GRANT, WHICH IS RIGHT NEAR 431,000.
AND I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
BUT WE FOUND A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES, AS YOU SEE HERE.
ONE IS WHY IS THE GUARDRAIL TO WHERE IT'S PROTECTED IN CARS, BUT NOT SOMEONE WALKING.
AND SO WE'RE IDENTIFYING ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES, UH, SIDEWALKS THAT ARE JUST TOTALLY FALLING APART.
UM, THIS IS, UH, JUST NEAR THE UNDERPASS.
WE ALSO FOUND BETTER WAYS TO GET THE STUDENTS, UH, TO AMSTEL AT BETTER, UH, LOCATIONS WHERE IT'S NOT THE BIG NOISE OF THE, OF THE BIG INTERSECTION, BELIEVE SUNRISE, THAT WE'RE TRYING TO STAY AWAY FROM BECAUSE OF THE VOLUME AND NO SIDEWALK.
UH, THIS WOULD BE A BETTER ENTRY POINT AND A GOOD CROSSING POINT.
REAL QUICKLY, ON THE EXISTING CONDITIONS, ALL THE SIDEWALKS ARE LIMITED TO FOUR FEET.
UH, THAT DOESN'T EVEN BEGIN TO MEET, UH, ACCESSORY, UM,
UH, ANYONE WHO'S TRYING TO MOVE, UH, IS FIGURING OUT THERE ARE BETTER PLACES THAN WHAT THE SIDEWALKS.
AND, UH, AND AGAIN, THESE ARE CONDITIONS WE FOUND THROUGHOUT A LOT OF, UH, UH, AREAS THAT AREN'T BEING MAINTAINED AT ALL.
UH, THIS, AGAIN, ANOTHER VIEW OF THE ROAD THAT, UH, WE THINK WILL BE A MUCH BETTER LINK IN.
AND, UM, PEOPLE ARE WALKING AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE REALLY, UH, UH, TRYING TO STAY HEALTHY AND, UH, ACTIVE.
BUT THEN WHEN WE GET INTO THE, THE NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, THERE ARE A LOT OF AREAS THAT JUST HAVE NO SIDEWALKS AND, OR THERE ARE ONLY FOUR FEET WIDE, AND I FOUND A LOT OF PEOPLE WALKING IN THE STREET.
UH, IF THE CODE TO, UH, REQUIRE, UH, THEM TO BE BUILT DOESN'T CALL FOR THE SUFFICIENT STRENGTH OUT A DRIVEWAY.
UH, LIKEWISE, IF THE TREE HAD GROWN UP OVER THE DECADES, UH, EVEN THOUGH IT'S GONE, UH, THE SIDEWALK, UH, NOW NEEDS SIGNIFICANT REPAIR.
AND AGAIN, UH, WE HAVE OBSERVED WHAT PEOPLE WERE TALKING.
OUR STUDY AREA, UH, STARTS UP AT, UH, 20, AND THEN GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE TRACKS.
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A COMMUNITY, YOU'VE GOT THE RIGHT PATTERN FOR WALKABILITY, UH, WHERE PEOPLE CAN WALK INTERNALLY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT HAVE TO GO OUT INTO THE PRINCIPAL ROAD.BUT FOR AMSTEL, THIS IS THE PATTERN OF THE SETTLEMENT, WHICH ALL TRIPS HAVE TO BE FORCED DOWN TO AMSTEL.
SO IT BECOMES REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE A GOOD FACILITY ALONG THE ENTIRE ROAD.
UH, ALL THIS IS BEING LEFT AS A PART OF A REPORT, SO YOU'LL, UH, HAVE IT IN DEPTH OR DETAIL.
BUT WE LOOKED AT EACH NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, FACING ONTO AMSTEL INDIVIDUALLY, AND, UH, WE COUNTED THE HOUSEHOLDS.
UH, CHRIS WAS ABLE TO TELL US HOW MANY STUDENTS WERE FROM EACH NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND, UH, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THIS AS BACKGROUND DATA.
BUT IN ADDITION, THE, THE ENTRYWAYS INTO, UH, PROPERTIES ARE WAY TOO WIDE, UH, EXCEPTIONALLY WIDE.
UH, YOU CAN SEE, UH, JUST SOME EXAMPLES HERE.
THE STREETS ACTUALLY ARE VERY NICE WIDTH BETWEEN THE PAINTED LINES.
UH, THE LANES ARE ONLY NINE FEET.
UH, OVERALL, THOSE GET MEASURED AS 10 FOOT LANES.
AND WHEN YOU GO TO THE CENTER OF PAINT TO CENTER OF PAINT, THERE IS A, AN EDGE.
UH, THE LEFTHAND SIDE IS A VERY DIFFICULT PLACE TO ASSEMBLE WALKING CONDITIONS.
THEN THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF AREAS THAT, UH, WE LOOK AT, UH, 66 FEET OF RIGHT OF WAY.
SO WE HAVE REASONABLE RIGHT OF WAY TO WORK WITHIN, BUT THEN WE HAVE ALL THE INTERRUPTIONS, UH, AT THE ENTRIES AND SO ON.
SO, WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO DO NOW IS TAKE ALL THE AREAS WHERE WE DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS AND PRIORITIZE THOSE.
BUT I'M GONNA BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH A BEAUTIFUL RECOMMENDATION.
YOU CAN SEE, UH, IN GREEN THOSE AREAS THAT, UH, A LACK OF SIDEWALK.
THE RED ARE THOSE THAT ALREADY HAVE A SIDEWALK.
AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE CHALLENGE OF THE, UH, MEETINGS ARE SO FAR BACK AND LOOK WHERE THE SIDEWALKS, UH, END
UM, SO WE NEED TO BRING THE, THE SIDEWALKS FORWARD SO WE CAN MAKE A PROPER CONNECTION.
THEN PUT IN THE RIGHT KIND OF STREET CROSSINGS.
UH, SO ALL THESE AREAS WOULD BE, WOULD BE TREATED, THESE WOULD BE POTENTIAL LOCATIONS FOR THE CROSSINGS.
AND NOW I WANNA SHOW WHAT THEY MIGHT LOOK LIKE WE'RE RECOMMENDING, AND AREAS THAT, UH, AS FAR AS THE FUNDING WILL GO, THAT WE RAISE THE CROSSINGS.
THIS WILL ACT AS A SPEED CONTROL.
WE RECOMMEND THAT THE SPEEDS ON MSL REALLY SHOULDN'T BE OVER 25, 30 AT MOST.
BUT RIGHT NOW, 85TH PERCENTILE OF SPEED IS 45 MILES AN HOUR, WHICH MEANS SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING FASTER THAN THAT.
UM, THESE, UH, A COUPLE EXAMPLES OF WHAT RAY'S CROSSINGS LOOK LIKE.
AND, UH, THEN, UH, LET ME SKIP THIS BECAUSE I, IT'S BE TOO LONG TO EXPLAIN.
I WANNA HONOR THE TIME OF HOW BUSY YOU ARE TONIGHT.
UH, SO LET'S GET TO THE SIDEWALKS.
WHEN THEY'RE TOO NARROW, THEY CAN'T, UH, SUPPORT MORE THAN ONE PERSON WALKING SIDE BY THE OTHER.
IF THEY'RE ATTACHED, THEY'RE VERY UNCOMFORTABLE.
SO IDEALLY, THEY WOULD BE A MINIMUM OF SIX FEET WIDE, AND THEN SET BACK FAR ENOUGH THAT PEOPLE ARE COMFORTABLE.
UH, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE COMMUNITY WIDE, UH, NEVER BUILD UNDER FIVE FOOT, UH, WHICH DOES NOT MEET A DA, UH, PREFERRED SIX FOOT, BUT AT SCHOOLS, EIGHT OR 10 FEET.
UM, YOU HAVE ENOUGH RIGHT OF WAY THAT IN SOME AREAS, IF YOU ARE CONSTRAINED, YOU COULD ATTACH A SIDEWALK AND WHERE, BUT YOU COULD BE BUILDING MULTI-USE PATH.
AND WE THINK FOR ALMOST THE SAME PRESS, THE MULTI-USE PATH WOULD BE, UH, SET BACK.
UH, THIS IS ANOTHER WAY, BY THE WAY, TO HANDLE THE AREA WHERE YOU MUST HAVE CURBING.
SO THIS AFTERNOON I WENT UP TO CLARENCE TO SEE A TRAIL SO FRESH THAT THE, THE PAINT.
NOW THE CROSSWALK WAS STILL DRYING WHILE I WAS THERE.
THIS IS BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT WE COULD BUILD, UH, IDEALLY EIGHT FOOT WIDE PATH AND NOW, UH, HAVE A BUFFER TO AMSTEL ROAD.
AND, UH, OVER TIME YOU COULD PLANT MORE TREES AND SO ON.
BUT WE THINK THIS IS GONNA PENCIL OUT THAT WE COULD GET THIS IN RATHER THAN FIVE FOOT SIDEWALKS, WHICH WOULD BE ALTERNATIVE, UH, THE CROSSINGS.
UH, WE'D START WITH, WITH JUST REALLY WELL MARKED CROSSINGS, RECTANGULAR RAPID FLASH BEACONS, WHICH REALLY INCREASES THE YIELD RATE.
BUT THEN AS FAR AS THE FUNDS ALLOW, I'LL
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GO TO THE RAISED CROSSINGS AND OR EVEN MEDIUM CROSSINGS AS, AS YOU SEE HERE, AND FOR MANY REASONS.UH, BUT, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA PROVIDE YOU THE GUIDANCE FOR THE SPECIFICATIONS.
UH, DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO THE CROSSINGS AND, UH, UH, OVERCOME THE OVERLY WIDE IN THREE WAYS BY, UH, RECOMMENDING, UH, WHAT WE CALL SHORT MEDIUMS THROUGH THE CORNERS, YOU CAN SEE THEY CAN BE BUILT ALMOST ANY SIZE OR SCALE.
THIS REDUCES THE SPEED OF TURNING MOTORS, AND IT REALLY MAKES IT A MUCH, MUCH SAFER CROSSING A LITTLE ON SPEED CONTROL.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER, BUT, UM, THE ABILITY TO SURVIVE A CRASH ALMOST DROPS TO ZERO.
IF YOU GET UP TO 40, AND YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF SPEEDS UP AROUND 40 RIGHT NOW, 30 WOULD WORK, BUT 25 WOULD BE EVEN BETTER.
AND SO WE'LL DESIGN, UH, TO, TO GET THE SPEEDS INTO THE PROPER AREA.
ONE OF THE BEST PROVEN, UH, WHICH YOU'VE BEEN DOING IS THE, UH,
UH, AND MY ENGINEER WORKED ALL DAY ON THIS AND CAME UP WITH A SOLUTION FOR THE SCHOOL.
IT WOULD STILL BE AT BASICALLY THE, THE AREA WHERE THE ROAD IS OPEN, ALL THAT WOULD BE RETURNED TO GRASS, AND NOW YOU HAVE A NEW ENTRY THAT WORKS MUCH BETTER FOR THE CIRCULATION, AND, UM, ALSO BECOMES THE KEY SPEED CONTROL POINT, UH, FOR, FOR THE AREAS.
WE ALSO EXPLORE THE POSSIBILITY OF KEEPING STUDENTS, UH, OFF OF AMSTEL AS MUCH AS WE CAN BY PUTTING LINKS, UH, THROUGH, THROUGH APPROPRIATE LOCATIONS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE FOUND, UH, THREE BEAUTIFUL LOCATIONS.
YOU'LL SEE ONE OF 'EM IN THE MINUTE.
UH, THE, THE SCHOOL PROPERTY WOULD ALLOW FOR THESE KINDS OF CONNECTIONS, BUT IT WILL REQUIRE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, BOARD WORKING WITH NEIGHBORS TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THESE APPROVED.
THIS IS NEAR THE FRONT END OF THE SCHOOL.
AND NOTICE THAT, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE ALREADY CREATED, UM, A REALLY NICE TREATMENT SO THE STUDENTS DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT TO AMSTEL.
OTHER LINKS MIGHT LOOK LIKE YOU SEE HERE, OR AS THIS ONE HERE, UH, THEY, THEY'RE ALWAYS ATTRACTIVE, BUT WE ALWAYS WORK WITH PROPERTY OWNERS TO ENHANCE THE QUALITY.
THIS IS ONE WE FOUND OVER, UH, JUST OFF OF ELM, I BELIEVE.
AND YOU CAN SEE THERE'S JUST A NATURAL PLACE, UH, FOR THAT LINK TO EXIST.
AND SO, UM, I WANNA THANK EVERYONE FOR ALLOWING US TO DO THIS IN SUCH A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
I THINK IT TURNED OUT TO BE A GREAT, UH, PROJECT.
UH, THERE WILL BE MANY OTHER WAYS THAT WE CAN HELP, UH, BEEF UP THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS WHO ARE ABLE TO WALK AND BIKE TO SCHOOL.
AND, UH, SO I HOPE I STAYED WITHIN MY PROPER TIMEFRAME AND ALLOW TIME FOR QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.
UM, WHILE THE REST OF THE BOARD MIGHT BE THINKING OF QUESTIONS, ONE THING THAT, UH, SOME FOLKS HAVE ASKED ME IS, WE LIVE IN BUFFALO, WE'RE GONNA GET A LOT OF SNOW.
WHAT HAPPENS THEN? THE GOOD NEWS IS, IF WE GET THE PATH IN, THEN IT'S MAINTAINABLE.
A FOUR FOOT SIDEWALK, UH, IS REALLY TOUGH TO MAINTAIN.
UH, THE PATH IS THAT EXISTS ISN'T NEAR ANYONE'S HOME.
AND SO BY BUILDING THE PATH, UH, YOU CAN JUST USE A, A VERY SIMPLE, UH, FRONT END PLOW ON, ON.
EVEN A THREE QUARTER TON PICKUP WOULD HANDLE IT BEAUTIFULLY.
AND WE THINK THAT BY HAVING, UH, THE PATH AT LEAST FIVE FEET BACK, UH, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE SEEING THE SNOW PLOW RIGHT ONTO THE PATH AND, AND THEN BE VERY DIFFICULT TO REMOVE AFTER IT FREEZES.
SO PUTTING THE SNOW REMOVAL ON THE FRONT ROW PICKUP TRUCK, WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY IS IT THEN? I'M ASSUMING IT'S THE HOMEOWNERS TO REMOVE THE SNOW.
IN THIS SITUATION ON AMSTEL, THE HOMES ARE SET, UH, FAR ENOUGH BACK FROM THE ROAD.
AND INDEED WITH, WITH, UM, LANDSCAPING MATERIALS THAT, UH, CHANCES ARE NOBODY'S MAINTAINING THE SIDEWALKS.
IT, IT WOULD BE RARE BECAUSE YOU, WELL, WE'RE SUGGESTING TO PUT SOME OF THEM IN.
THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS, SO NOBODY'S HAVING TO MAINTAIN THEM RIGHT NOW.
BUT IF WE PUT THE PATHS IN, THAT'S WHAT I'M WONDERING.
LIKE, THEN, THEN I THINK EITHER THE SCHOOL OR, OR THE COMMUNITY WOULD, UM, JUST ADD THAT TO THE LIST OF PLACES THAT GET PLOWED.
WE PLOW THE STREETS FOR MOTORIST
I WILL, I WILL OPEN IT UP TO, TO QUESTIONS FROM THE FLOOR.
UH, BUT IF YOU COULD JUST HOLD OFF.
I WANTED TO SEE IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE
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BOARD.UH, IT WAS GREAT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE WORKSHOP.
I LIVE IN THE, UM,
UM, THAT PATH SHOW, THAT'S ONE OF OUR PROPERTIES.
AT THE SAME TIME, I JUST THINK THERE'S ANOTHER SIDE THAT WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT AS WELL.
AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS UP.
UM, I CAMPUS PARENTS IN BOTH DEVELOPMENTS, OUR DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPMENT ACROSS, MOST PARENTS REALLY AREN'T INTERESTED IN HAVING THEIR KIDS WALK TO SCHOOL DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS, MAYBE.
BUT THE MAJORITY WOULD PREFER TO TAKE THE BUS.
THE WEATHER'S NOT GOOD HERE IN BUFFALO, IN CLEMENT, WEATHER, SNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, ICE FRIT CONDITIONS.
SO WHILE I APPRECIATE WALKABILITY, MOST PARENTS WOULD PREFER TO HAVE THEIR CHILDREN.
UM, AND KUDOS TO THE FRONTIER DISTRICT.
SO I'M STILL TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT PROBLEM WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE WHEN PARENTS THEMSELVES ARE SAYING, I DON'T WANT MY CHILD TO WALK TO SCHOOL.
EVEN NOT FOR EVEN JUST THE SAFETY OF WALKING AND STUFF.
SO I JUST THINK WE NEED TO CONSIDER THAT.
AND THEN THE OTHER COMMENT ABOUT ROUNDABOUTS, UM, ROUNDABOUTS ARE DELIGHTFUL IF PEOPLE KNOW HOW TO DRIVE THEM
SO ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES ARE YIELD CONFUSION.
PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT.
UNBALANCED TRAFFIC, BAD WEATHER NAVIGATION, HIGHER RIGHT OF WAY, SPEED, EMERGENCY VEHICLE PRIORITIZATION, DIFFICULT PEDESTRIAN, UM, CROSSING.
AND IT'S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW THIS.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO A ROUNDABOUT, YOU'RE GONNA LOOK TO THE LEFT.
YOU'RE NOT LOOKING TO THE RIGHT YOU.
SO IF IT PEDESTRIAN IS TRYING TO CROSS ON THAT SIDE.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURG THAT YOU'RE PULLING UP.
YOU'RE LOOKING TO THE LEFTBRIDGE, YOU'RE TRYING TO WAIT FOR YOUR TURN TO GET IN, AND THE PE VESTING CROSSINGS ON THE RIGHT.
UM, AND THEN AGAIN, I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT EMERGENCY VEHICLES.
IT'S THE ONLY STREET THAT HAS A VIA DOCK, AND THAT'S WHY PEOPLE DON'T WANNA GET CAUGHT ON ANTA OR ON CLOVER BANK.
SO, AND ALSO, TO YOUR POINT, SEVERITY IN THAT, I'M SO GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP ABOUT SPEED.
YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT IS GONNA REDUCE THE SEVERITY, BUT THE INCREASE IN SIDESWIPES OF CARS THAT DON'T KNOW HOW TO DRIVE IN THE ROUNDABOUT, UM, INCREASES BY 600%.
BUT I JUST WANNA GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL PREMISE.
WHAT PROBLEM ARE WE TRYING TO SOLVE HERE? DO YOU HAVE PARENTS THAT ARE SAYING, I WANT MY CHILD TO WALK? I, I DON'T KNOW.
I, I, BECAUSE PARENTS I'VE TALKED TO SAID, I WANT THEM ON THE BUS.
I KNOW THEY'RE GONNA GET THERE, THEY'RE GONNA GET THERE SAFELY.
SO, AND AMSTEL WAS NEVER INTENDED TO BE A WALKABLE STREET.
IT'S A MAJOR THOROUGH, FOR FAIR BETWEEN ROUTE FIVE AND SOUTHWESTERN.
I'VE LIVED IN HAMBURG MY ENTIRE LIFE.
SO I JUST, I'M BEGGING THE BOARD TO KIND OF LOOK AT THIS MORE OBJECTIVELY.
UM, AND THEN LET'S TALK ABOUT WALKABILITY.
I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO REALLY WALK IN JANUARY.
UM, UM, I MIGHT, BUT IT'S NOT A REAL STRONG DESIRE FOR ANY PARENT TO HAVE SEND A CHILD OUT AND THE, AND THE WEATHER THAT WE HAVE HERE IN BUFFALO.
AND THEN THE LAST COMMENT ABOUT DOING SIDEWALKS, I JUST WANT MY STREET PLOWED.
I'M NOT, I WANT, I TAKE CARE OF MY SIDEWALK, BUT WE NEED OUR STREETS PLOWED.
AND I CAN ASSURE YOU WHEN THEY PLOW ALL THAT SNOW IS GONNA GO ON THAT SIDEWALK.
SO I HOPE THE BOARD WILL CONSIDER WHAT I'M BRINGING FORWARD.
BUT MOST PARENTS ARE NOT INTERESTED.
AT LEAST THE PARENTS AND I, UM, CANVAS TWO DOZEN, UM, PARENTS FOR EACH DEVELOPMENT.
I'M NOT SURE, UH, WHAT TO SAY OTHER THAN ALL THE NATIONAL STUDIES HAVE BEEN DONE AND THEY'VE BEEN DONE IN COMMUNITY OF COMMUNITY.
AND MEN, MOST OF THE PARENTS WANT THEIR CHILDREN TO BE ABLE TO WALK.
WE JUST HAVE BUILT CONDITIONS WHERE THAT BECOMES A VERY CHALLENGING, UH, PROBLEM.
AND THAT'S WHAT THIS GRANT AND, AND, UH, COMMUNITY APPROACH.
I CAN, I CAN SHOW YOU THE STUDY.
I DO A LOT OF THE REVIEWS, SO WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT IT.
I MADE SURE THAT I DIDN'T, AND I DIDN'T GO TO DR.
I WAS, WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT IT.
YOU MAY HAVE GONE TO THE WRONG SITES.
BUT I ALSO THINK WE HAVE TO, THERE'S NO DOUBT WALKABILITY MAKES SENSE.
IT MAY MAKE SENSE FOR CERTAIN TOWNS.
IT MAY CERTAINLY MAKE SENSE FOR THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURG, WHICH HAS SIDEWALKS EVERYWHERE.
WE'RE IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG ON A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE THAT PEOPLE NEED TO GET TO.
AND OUR EMERGENCY VEHICLES NEED TO, AND YOU CAN'T IMAGINE THE CHALLENGE THAT WE EVEN HAVING IN THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURG.
NOW, WE BOTH DON'T KNOW HOW TO DRIVE AROUND THE ROUNDABOUT, AND IT'S MY PERSONAL FAVORITE, IS WHEN THE TRUCKS GO AND THEY GO RIGHT OVER, RIGHT OVER THE ROUNDABOUT 'CAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET AROUND IT.
AND WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT EMERGENCY VEHICLES.
WE HAVE LAKESHORE FIRE HALL RIGHT AT THE VERY END.
I WE NEED TO MAKE SURE OUR TRANSPORT IS THERE FOR EMERGENCIES.
SO I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURG.
UH, BECAUSE THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURG, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE EMERGENCY SERVICES THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THE ROUNDABOUTS HAVE NOT REPORTED ANY SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES IN NAVIGATING THE ROUNDABOUTS.
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ADDITIONALLY, THE VILLAGE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS INDICATED THAT NOT ONLY HAS THERE BEEN A REDUCTION IN VEHICLE CRASHES, BUT ALSO A REDUCTION IN THE SEVERITY OF THOSE CRASHES.ON THE RARE OCCASION THAT THEY DO HAPPEN, UH, THEY ARE LESS LETHAL AND BECAUSE LESS INJURY THAN THE PREVIOUS CONDITIONS.
AND I WOULD INVITE YOU TO JOIN ME ON A JANUARY AFTERNOON IN THE CHARLOTTE AVENUE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE WE HAVE KIDS WALKING TO SCHOOL AND LOVING IT.
AND I THINK THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE SHOULD BRING TO ALL CHILDREN THAT ATTEND SCHOOLS IN HAMBURG.
IT'S THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURG, THERE'S NO DOUBT.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO, IT.
IT APPEARS THAT WE'RE CONCENTRATING ON STUDENTS WALKING TO OR FROM SCHOOL.
THAT'S A PARENT'S DECISION TO MAKE ULTIMATELY.
BUT THE REALITY IS, WHEN WE TOOK THIS PART OF THE COMMITTEE THAT WALKED ON FRIDAY, UH, IN THE AREA, WE SAW STUDENTS HAVING TO RUN ON THE STREETS BECAUSE THE SIDEWALKS WERE COMPLETE AND, AND WHERE THEY WEREN'T COMPLETE, IT WAS MORE DANGEROUS FOR THEM TO BE RUNNING ON THE GRASS.
WE SAW BICYCLISTS, BICYCLING ON THE STREET BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T BIKE ON THE SIDEWALKS.
SO IN ADDITION TO THE STUDENTS, I MEAN, THERE'S QUITE, QUITE, UH, AND PEDESTRIAN AND RUNNERS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT, THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED WHEN WE TAKE THIS INTO ACCOUNT.
SO I'D LIKE TO OVERLAP WITH MORE THAN JUST THE, THE STUDENT ACCESS.
AND I'D LIKE TO ADD TO, TO YOUR COMMENTS.
UM, IN ADDITION TO MR. BURDEN'S WORK, I'VE BEEN A FOLLOWER OF, UH, GIL PENSO WORK WHO DOES A LOT OF WALKABILITY WORK.
AND HE STATES AN IDEAL THAT WE SHOULD DESIGN OUR COMMUNITIES FOR PEOPLE.
WHAT WE DO FOR THE 8-YEAR-OLD IS GOING TO WORK FOR THE EIGHT OLD EIGHT IN 80.
AMS ROAD WAS NOT DESIGNED FOR WALKABILITY.
AND THAT IS A TERRIBLE INJUSTICE TO THE PEOPLE OF HAMBURG.
WE SHOULD NOT HAVE MADE THOSE DECISIONS.
THE ENTIRE COUNTRY HAS SUFFERED FROM CUL-DE-SAC DEVELOPMENT.
AFTER CUL-DE-SAC DEVELOPMENT AND A DEPENDENCE ON THE AMERICAN AUTOMOBILE, THINGS HAVE CHANGED.
THE SCIENCE SHOWS THAT THERE'S BENEFITS THAT WE CAN BRING NOT ONLY TO THE HEALTH OF THE COMMUNITY, BUT THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT THAT WALKABLE COMMUNITIES.
THE INCREASE IN PROPERTY VALUES, THE INCREASE IN COMMERCE, THE INCREASE IN COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES WITH THE ROUNDABOUTS, THEY'RE TYPICALLY CONSTRUCTED WITH THAT CENTERPIECE, WITH MOUNTABLE CURB, WITH THE INTENTION.
THEY USUALLY, WHEN THEY'RE DESIGNED, THEY CALL 'EM TRUCK APRONS.
SO THE EMERGENCY VEHICLES AND LARGER VEHICLES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO GET UP ON THAT MOUNTABLE CURB TO BE ABLE TO MONITOR.
THE OTHER THING IS, UM, THE SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL GRANT.
I THINK THE ADVOCACY FOR THAT CAME FROM, UM, OUTREACH FROM MULTIPLE FAMILIES IN THE AREA.
I KNOW WHEN I CAME ON THE BOARD, I STARTED RECEIVING EMAILS, BUT I THINK THAT PREDATES, UH, ME QUITE A FEW YEARS.
MAYBE BETH COULD SPEAK TO THAT, BUT, UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF OUTREACH FROM PARENTS CORPORATE BANK.
YOU'RE GONNA DO IT ON OUR, BECAUSE THERE'S A ON EXCUSE BANK.
EXCUSE ME, WHICH ARE YOU FINISHED? YES, SIR.
SO ARE WE GONNA SET MY HANDS UP? SO YOU'RE GONNA DO IT ON CLOVER BANK? THEY HAVE A SCHOOL AS WELL.
SO WE ARE TAKING A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK TO, TO CONNECTIVE CONNECTIVITY AND WALKABILITY THROUGHOUT THE TOWN.
WE'RE CURRENTLY, WE HAVE A DRAFT FORM OF OUR ACTIVE MOBILITY PLAN.
OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEE IS CALLING FOR A SIDEWALK PLAN THAT WILL GO THROUGHOUT ALL OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG.
SO THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, YES, ABSOLUTELY.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE ISSUES THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
RUN THAT CLOVER BANK OVER AND STILL JUST ASKING.
'CAUSE THERE'S A SCHOOL, I'M JUST CURIOUS.
SO WE CAN'T DO ALL THE SCHOOLS AT THE SAME TIME.
IF WE'RE GONNA GO INTO CONSIDER, SAY A TRAFFIC CIRCLE, IT APPEARED TO ME THAT THAT WAS GONNA BE ON FRONTIER PROPERTY.
SO IS THAT GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT WE DO IN CONJUNCTION WITH FRONTIER? AND THEN WOULD THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER FOR STUDENT SAFETY FOR LIKE EMERGENCY, LIKE FIRE DRILLS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE WHEN WE'RE EVACUATING THE BUILDING? YES.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, UH, IT DOES, UH, GET INTO THE FRONTIER, UH, SCHOOL, UH, TO STAY AWAY FROM A COUPLE OF DRIVEWAYS.
AND, AND ALSO IT HELPS WITH THE SPEED CONTROL.
UH, I WANNA MAKE REALLY CLEAR, THE GRANT THAT WE HAVE WOULD NOT COVER THAT COST.
BUT, UH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO KINDA UNDERSTAND.
THE IDEAS AND WHERE THEY'RE ALL GOING.
AND, UH, WITH WHATEVER SYSTEM WE PROVIDE, EMERGENCY RESPONSE WILL, WILL BE ENHANCED.
NO, I, I WASN'T CONCERNED WITH THAT.
I WAS MORE CONCERNED WITH THE IMPINGEMENT ON THE SCHOOL PROPERTY AND MAINTAINING THE SAFETY FOR EMERGENCY.
WE DON'T USE THE FRONT LOTS FOR ANY EMERGENCY.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS BEHIND THE BUILDING.
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NO TRAFFIC.SO NOTHING COMES FRONT THE BUILDING.
I KNOW THE HIGH SCHOOL, WE DO A DIFFERENT, SO, RIGHT.
AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU IS IF THERE ANY WAY TO CONSIDER LIKE WORKING IN CO COHESIVENESS OR WORKING TOGETHER LIKE A RAILS TO TRAILS PROGRAM BECAUSE CLOVER BANK AND THE MIDDLE SCHOOL ARE CONNECTED BY THE, UH, RAIL SYSTEM BACK THERE.
AND THERE IS A LARGE WALKABLE COMMUNITY AT CLOVER BANK ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
BUT THOSE KIDS ARE RAISED AN IDEA THAT THEY WALKED TO SCHOOL.
AND WHEN I TAUGHT AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, THOSE WERE THE FIRST KIDDOS TO TRY TO WALK TO SCHOOL EVERY DAY.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY HAD DONE FOR YEARS AND YEARS.
AND THEY WERE LEARNING THE ONLY WAY THEY COULD DO IT WAS TO CUT THROUGH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEN THERE WAS NO SIDEWALK.
AND THAT'S WHY IT ALWAYS BACKED ME.
LIKE, WE HAVE A RAILS TRAILS PROGRAM NATIONALLY.
WHY COULDN'T WE PUT IT THERE AND GIVE THE KIDS A SPOT TO QUICKLY AND EASILY RIDE THEIR BIKES TO AND FROM SCHOOL AND NOT BE CUTTING THROUGH? UM, I THINK ONE OF MY CONCERNS WAS THE NEIGHBORHOOD PATHS IN BETWEEN HOUSES THAT WHEN YOU SHOWED, I'M LIKE, THAT'S AN EASEMENT DUE TO UTILITIES.
BUT I KNOW THE NEIGHBORS AND AMDA HAVE CONCERNS WHEN THEY'RE SUMMER SCHOOL OF THE KIDS CUTTING THROUGH THEIR PROPERTY.
AND THEN, 'CAUSE WE HAVE A LITIGIOUS SOCIETY, KIDS GETTING HURT ON THEIR PROPERTY.
THE BEST WAY TO DO A LINK IS TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE PARTIES.
UH, SOMETIMES, UH, THEY JUST SIMPLY SIGN OVER A $1
IT HELPS THEM WITH POTENTIAL FOR ANY TORT LIABILITY.
I DON'T KNOW IF A SINGLE CASE, UH, WHERE A LENGTH, UH, RESULTED IN ANY TYPE OF INJURY.
IT ALMOST ALWAYS PREVENTS INJURIES FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE.
SO WHERE, WHERE IT'S BEING DONE, PEOPLE LOVE IT.
I JUST COULD SEE A HOMEOWNER BEING A LITTLE SKEPTICAL OF HAVING SOME WOULD BE THE KIDS GO THROUGH THEIR PROPERTY WITHOUT PROTECTING THEMSELVES TOO.
AND THAT'S WHY IT'S, IT IS REALLY HELPFUL FOR IT TO BE A, A COMMUNITY OFFER OF, UH, TAKING OVER THAT SPACE, THAT PHYSICAL SPACE.
WHAT I'D LIKE TO, UH, REMIND FOLKS OF IS THAT THIS IS, THIS IS REALLY, UM, A, A RESULT OF, OF A PUBLIC MEETING.
NOT ONLY IS THIS CONCEPTUAL, BUT IT'S ALSO PHASE ONE OF WHAT IS LIKELY GOING TO BE A LARGER PROJECT.
SO WHAT YOU SAW ON THE SCREEN IS NOT WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE ON THE STREET STREET IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR.
THERE'S GONNA BE SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AS THIS PROJECT MOVES FORWARD.
AND WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH A FRACTION OF WHAT YOU SAW ON THE SCREEN WITH THE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE.
TUMAN FOR NOT ONLY HIS PARTICIPATION, BUT SHARING THIS INFORMATION WITH THE MANY FAMILIES OF THE FRONTIER SCHOOL DISTRICT, AS WELL AS, UM, BRINGING THE PRESIDENT OF THE PTA AND OTHER FAMILIES, UH, THAT ARE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS CONCEPT.
WE HAVE ONE MORE FROM THE CROWD.
THIS IS A GRANT, UH, THAT WAS BROUGHT TO US BY STATE SENATOR SEAN RYAN.
AND IT HAS TO BE USED FOR WITHIN THE PARAMETER.
AND IF I CAN MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT THAT THE SCOPE, UM, AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, DOES INCLUDE SOME WORK IN THE CLOVER BANK SCHOOL AREA.
AND I BELIEVE YOU EVEN COMMENT THAT'S CORRECT.
AND WE WERE OUT STUDYING THAT AREA TODAY AS WELL.
UH, CLOVER BANK, WE ABLE YEAH, THAT WOULD BE A SIDEWALK.
UH, JUST 'CAUSE IT'S SO SHORT.
ISN'T THAT WERE YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT YEAH, THAT'S THAT I THINK IT SHOULD START WITH CLOVER BANK FIRST.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THOSE KIDS ARE, THAT THEY'RE WALKERS AND I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEY'RE CUTTING ACROSS.
THEY'RE GOING RIGHT THROUGH THAT, THROUGH EITHER RAILROAD TRACKS.
SO THAT MIGHT BE THE BETTER WAY TO GO.
I BELIEVE THE GRANT THOUGH, IS SPECIFIC TO AND STONE.
THAT'S WHAT I, THAT WE CAN'T, WE CAN ONLY SPEND IT IN THAT AREA BASED ON THE APPLICATION WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY WRITTEN.
THAT'S, THAT'S HOW IT WAS ORIGINALLY WRITTEN OUT.
AND AS I SAID, THERE IS A CERTAIN PIECE OF IT THAT DOES INCLUDE, UH, WORK TO BE DONE AROUND THE CLOVER BANK ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT.
THAT'S A, IT IS A AREA OF CONCERN.
AND THERE WERE, IT WAS NOTED THAT THERE'S CONNECTIONS THERE THAT WERE VERY IMPORTANT TO BE MADE.
LIKE, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE A LOT OF THE STUDENTS THERE AND THE TEACHERS WILL GO UP TO THE LIBRARY, FOR EXAMPLE.
AND YET THERE ARE SOME MISSING, UM, SIDEWALKS THERE.
BUT PART OF THE, THAT SCOPE WAS WRITTEN QUITE A WHILE BACK MANY YEARS AGO.
AND WE'RE SOMEWHAT BOUND RIGHT NOW TO THAT, THAT SCOPE AND TAKING A LOOK AT THE AREAS AS THEY WERE DEFINED IN THAT PARTICULAR SCOPE.
BUT I THINK IT, I THINK
I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE BRIAN FUNDED IT, WHICH IS GREAT.
WHO WAS THE AUTHOR OF GRANT? SO THIS, THIS GRANT WAS A RESULT OF, OF CONVENING COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
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AND A A, UH, THERE WAS SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH FOLKS THAT LIVED IN AND AROUND THE SCHOOLS.UH, SENATOR RYAN CAME TO US WITH THIS AREA BECAUSE HE HAD RECEIVED COMPLAINTS AND CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC AND SAFETY FOR KIDS WALKING TO SCHOOL.
SO HE MADE THE GRANT AVAILABLE TO THE TOWN OF HAMBURG SHORTLY AFTER THE GRANT WAS MADE AVAILABLE TO US.
WE CONVENED, UH, SEVERAL MEETINGS TO TALK ABOUT WHAT DO WE WANNA LOOK AT.
UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT ON THIS GRANT.
UM, AND THERE WILL BE CONSIDERABLE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT GOING FORWARD, NOT JUST ON THIS GRANT, BUT OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO BRING SAFETY TO SCHOOL ROOTS.
SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO, UH, AS WE MOVE ON TO CLOVER BANK AND OTHER CORRIDORS, UH, TO JOIN US IN I THAT PROCESS I'LL THE TIME, I DON'T KNOW WHO THE CONSTITUENTS ARE, IF IT WASN'T FOR THIS PERSON HERE, WE WEREN'T, NO ONE IN OUR DEVELOPMENT KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
AND I'LL GO BACK TO THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT.
THEY DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT EITHER.
SO I, I I I'M NOT DOUBTING YOU.
SOMEBODY'S SUPPOSED TO COME FORWARD.
I CAN TELL YOU THE TWO MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS OFF OF AMSTEL HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF IT.
WELL I WAS GRATEFUL FOR THE PARTICIPATION OF, OF YOUR NEIGHBORS AND I WAS GRATEFUL FOR THE PARTICIPATION OF YOUR NEIGHBORS THAT JOINED US OVER THE WEEKEND.
AND PERHAPS AS WE MOVE FORWARD ON OTHER PROJECTS, YOU'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY MEET I MR. BURDEN.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, MR. TMA.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR, UH, COOPERATION IN THIS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS PROJECT IN THE NEXT PHASE.
WE ARE NOW GONNA MOVE ON TO MR. ROGERS FROM WENDELL OR DREW.
I JUST WANT, AS YOU KNOW, WE HELD A PUBLIC HEARING LAST MONTH OR OVER A COUPLE MEETING ON INDUSTRIAL REZONING.
NOW ONE OF THE IMPLEMENTATION PARTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS IDENTIFIED A WHOLE BUNCH OF OLDER INDUSTRIAL AREAS OF THE TOWN THAT ARE NO LONGER REALLY INDUSTRIAL.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUGGESTED REZONING THOSE TO THE APPROPRIATE ZONING.
I'LL START WITH THE EASY ONES.
UH, WE HAD THE OPERATING ENGINEER SITE.
WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THAT SITE.
IT'S INDUSTRIAL ZONING JUST BECAUSE OF WHAT THE OPERATING ENGINEERS DO OUT THERE NOW.
UH, WE ARE SUGGESTING MOST OF THAT AREAS ZONED RA THAT IT BE TURNED BACK TO RA.
WE HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE OPERATING ENGINEERS AND THEY WOULD LIKE AN OFFICIAL LETTER.
I DUNNO IF THAT'S BEEN DONE YET.
ANNISE OFFICIAL LETTER BASICALLY AND SAY THEY CAN CONTINUE THEIR OPERATIONS THERE FOREVER AS THEY'VE DONE THERE.
BUT IF THEY WERE TO SELL THE PROPERTY IN THE FUTURE, IT'S NOT AN INDUSTRIAL AREA OF THE TOWN.
WE DON'T WANT A BIG INDUSTRIAL BUSINESS COMING INTO THE TOWN AT THAT LOCATION.
UH, THE OTHER FAIRLY EASY ONE WAS THE FEED MORE SITE.
EVERYBODY KNOWS WHERE FEED MORE IS GOING IN OUT ON CAMP ROAD THERE.
MATTER OF FACT, WE FOUND OUT THROUGH OUR RESEARCH THAT WE ALREADY HAD REZONED THE FRONT PIECES OF THAT SITE YEARS AGO.
IT JUST NEVER GOT CHANGED ON THE TOWN ZONING MAP.
WE HAD THE OFFICIAL TOWN BOARD RESOLUTIONS, ET CETERA WHEN THAT WAS DONE.
THE ONLY PROPERTY THAT WASN'T REZONED WAS THE FEED MORE SITE, WHICH AGAIN, FEED MORE ASKED THAT THEY HAD AN ACTIVE PEAK APPLICATION BEFORE THE TOWN ASKED FOR A LETTER JUST TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS NOT GONNA AFFECT OUR APPLICATION.
WE SAID NOPE, YOU'RE PROCEEDING UNDER THE EXISTING ZONING.
AND OH BY THE WAY, THE NEW ZONING C TWO WOULD ALLOW EVERYTHING YOU'RE PROPOSING ON THE SITE.
THE ONLY PROBLEM THEY HAD IS THEIR BUILDING IS FIVE FEET HIGHER THAN WHAT'S ALLOWED UNDER THE CODE.
BUT THEY'RE GONNA GET APPROVED UNDER, UNDER THE EXISTING CODE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE GRANDFATHER, THEY'RE FAIRLY CLOSE TO GETTING APPROVAL ON THEIR PROJECT.
I THOUGHT FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD BUT DID WE GET SOME COMMENTS? IS THE OLD CONCRETE SITE AND ALL THE PROPERTIES SURROUNDING THE OLD CON CONCRETE SITE OUT HERE, UM, THAT PROPERTY IS INDUSTRIAL.
NOT ONLY DID THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RECOMMEND IT BEING REZONED, YOUR GATEWAY STUDY PRO, UH, WHICH WAS INCORPORATED BY REFERENCING YOUR COMP PLAN ALSO UH, RECOMMENDED IT BE REZONED.
MAKES NO SENSE TO THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
UM, THE ONLY THING WE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING YOU WERE THERE AT IT WAS THERE WAS SOME RESIDENTS SAYING, WHY ARE WE ENCOURAGING REDEVELOPMENT OF THAT SITE? UM, WE HAVE PICKED THE APPROPRIATE ZONING.
AND THE ZONING IS THE CORRECT ZONING BECAUSE THE MU ONE DISTRICT IS A VERY CREATIVE DISTRICT.
IF YOU REZONE IT TO MU ONE, IT'S NOT GUARANTEEING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT SITE.
WHEN YOU REZONE MU ONE, THERE HAS TO BE THEN A PROPOSAL THAT COMES BACK TO THE TOWN BOARD THAT YOU BELIEVE IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH WHAT IS GONNA HAPPEN THERE.
SOMEONE MENTIONED THE PUBLIC HEARING.
A LOT OF THAT SITE MAY BE WETLANDS.
WE WOULD FIND THAT OUT IF THERE'S A PROJECT PROPOSED THAT THE TOWN WOULD NOT BE ALLOWING DEVELOPMENT ON WETLANDS SITE.
SO AGAIN, WE STILL THINK THAT IS, THAT SHOULD PROCEED AS IT WAS ALL THE PROPERTIES.
THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF PROPERTIES IN THERE.
IT SHOULD BE REZONED TO MU ONE, WHICH THEN GIVES THE OPPORTUNITY TO OWNERS TO COME FORWARD TO YOU AGAIN BEFORE IT EVER WOULD GO TO THE, TO THE, TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR APPROVAL.
'CAUSE THE MU ONE DISTRICT'S SUPPOSED TO BE BASED UPON A PLAN.
WE'RE REZONING IT AND ALLOWING PEOPLE TO PROPOSE THAT.
SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS CLEAR.
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NOT ON THE BOARD BUT TO THE PUBLIC.WHEN YOU REZONE PROPERTY, YOU HAVE A PROJECT LATER ON THAT'S A REZONING TO AN MU ONE DISTRICT THAT'S BY, THAT'S BY AN APPLICANT WHO HAS TO SHOW THEIR SPECIFIC PLAN THAT YOU CAN SAY YAY OR NAY TOO.
SO YOU'D HAVE THAT NEXT STEP IF ANYBODY WAS TO PROPOSE SOMETHING UP THERE.
NOW LET'S GET TO THE ONES THAT HAD COMMENTS.
UM, THE RIGHT OUTSIDE HERE, RIGHT OUT ON LAKE GO ROAD RIGHT OUTSIDE THE, THE VILLAGE HERE.
PROBABLY POINT IN THE WRONG DIRECTION OVER.
UM, YOU HAD THE AREA WHERE THE DOT FACILITY IS.
THERE'S A LOT OF COUNTY AND STATE OLD LAND THAT'S A BIG OLD INDUSTRIAL AREA.
THE ONLY REASON IT WAS ZONED INDUSTRIAL WAS BECAUSE OF THE DOT AND COUNTY FACILITIES.
WE ARE SUGGESTING THAT MOST OF THAT AREA, IT'S MORE OF A COMMERCIAL AREA BE REZONED.
THE C TWO WE HEARD FROM I THINK THREE PEOPLE THAT WERE CONCERNED.
THERE'S A RESIDENT RIGHT AT THE END OF WRIGHT STREET THAT BASICALLY HAD A RIGHT PLACE.
I THINK IT SAYS THAT HER PROPERTY GO, THEIR PROPERTY GOES INTO THIS INDUSTRIAL ZONE LAND AND WE WERE SUGGESTING IT REZONED THE C TWO.
SHE SAID, WHY ISN'T IT JUST RESIDENTIAL LIKE THE REST OF THE STREET? 'CAUSE IT'S A RESIDENTIAL LEASE PROPERTY.
I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT CHANGE.
WE WOULD REZONE HER PROPERTY RESIDENTIAL IF MOST OF THAT PROPERTY IS ALREADY RESIDENTIAL.
THEN THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN WHO OWNED, WHO HAD OWNED AN OPERATING BUSINESS THERE.
IT WAS SOME SORT A CAR REPAIR BUSINESS I BELIEVE.
AND HE HAD JUST BOUGHT THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR.
HE WAS UPSET BECAUSE HE SAID I BOUGHT INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY.
WE'RE REZONING THAT PROPERTY THAT I BOUGHT INDUSTRIAL.
WHAT I TRIED TO EXPLAIN AT THE MEETING, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR DIRECTION ON, IS THAT HIS EXISTING BUSINESS IS A NON-CONFORMING USE.
IT'S NOT ALLOWED IN THE, IN THE M TWO DISTRICT.
I'M TRYING TO MAKE HIS, HIS USE CONFORMING AND HE TALKED ABOUT EXPANDING HIS USE ONTO THAT ADJOINING PROPERTY, WHICH WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED.
I DON'T WANT HIM SITTING HERE A YEAR, UH, SIX MONTHS FROM NOW AND COMING TO THE PLANNING BOARD.
WE SAY IT'S NOT ALLOWABLE USE.
WE STILL HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT BOTH PIECES OF PROPERTY REZONED THE SEA TOO.
IF THE GENTLEMAN WERE HERE, I DON'T KNOW IF HE IS HERE, HE WOULD NOT WANT HIS PROPERTY OUT.
HE DID NOT WANT HIS PROPERTY REZONED BECAUSE HE THINKS IT'S INDUSTRIAL AND THAT SHOULD BE.
BUT THE USES HE'S PROPOSING AREN'T ALLOWED IN THE M TWO DISTRICT.
SO WE'RE STILL RECOMMENDING AN M TWO FOR THAT.
THE OTHER ONE WAS THE GENTLEMAN WHO OWNED A BUSINESS VERY, I'D NEVER BEEN DOWN THAT STREET WHERE IT IS DOWN DOWN THE END THERE WHERE HE SAID HE GOT A NEW CONTRACT WITH ANOTHER COMPANY, NEW ERA.
HE WAS GONNA BE EXPANDING HIS BUSINESS THERE AND I, WE TOLD HIM TO SUBMIT ADDITIONAL ANALYSTS, GAVE HIM CARD TO SUBMIT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION SO WE COULD LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF IT FIT UNDER C TWO OR SHOULD REMAIN INDUSTRIAL.
I STILL DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
IT'S NEXT TO THE BALL FIELDS THERE.
THERE'S RESIDENTIAL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET HOW IT EVER GOT TO BE INDUSTRIAL.
BUT EVERY MAP I'VE SEEN FOR THE LAST 40 YEARS SHOWS IT AS INDUSTRIAL.
SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THAT TO BE FINE.
I DON'T WANT TO CREATE TERRIBLE PROBLEMS FOR THIS GENTLEMAN, BUT I ALSO WANNA TRY TO MAKE IT FIT BETTER INTO THE AIR.
SO THAT ONE I DON'T HAVE A RECOMMENDATION ON.
WE WRITTEN ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM THE OWNER.
LAST BUT NOT LEAST IS UH, THE SITE IN LAKEVIEW BY THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
ARE YOU ALL FAMILIAR? AND, AND THANK YOU UH, COUNCILWOMAN FARRELL FOR COMING OUT MEETING.
WE MET WITH THE OWNER, MR. SPITLER OUT THERE WHO OWNS THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY.
WE WERE SUGGESTING TO BE REZONED FROM M TWO TO RA.
I HAVE, IF YOU'VE SEEN IN MY REPORT, RECOMMENDED DIFFERENT THAN RA.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HOLD, RE HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING NO MATTER HOW MUCH WE TALK TO HIM.
I STILL THINK HE WANTS HIS PROPERTY STAY AS IT IS.
BUT I TRIED TO EXPLAIN TO HIM THERE'S TWO PIECES OF PROPERTY THERE.
THERE'S TWO AREAS AND IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH RAILROAD AVENUE, WHEN YOU GET TO THE END THERE, THERE'S SUPPOSEDLY A STREET.
THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT CONFIRMED THIS, A STREET OFF TO THE LEFT NAMED BROWN ROAD AVENUE.
IT GOES TO THE MIDDLE OF A PARKING LOT AND THEN AFTER IT GOES TO THE PARKING LOT, IT NARROWS DOWN TO ABOUT A ONE LANE KIND OF ROAD AND THEN IT ENDS AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER SIX TO 800 FEET BEFORE YOU GET TO MR. SPITLER PROPERTY, WHICH IS THE ONE HE WANTS US TO LEAVE AS INDUSTRIAL.
AND I'LL SAY SPECIFICALLY, I TOLD HIM ON THE RECORD, YOU CAN'T DEVELOP THE PROPERTY ANYWAY.
YOU'D HAVE TO PUT IN 1500 FEET OF ROAD OF ROAD FRONTAGE TO ACTUALLY DEVELOP THE PROPERTY.
SO I ASKED HIM TRY TO COME UP WITH REASONABLE USE THAT WOULD FIT IN THERE AND WE'LL TRY TO FIND A ZONING THAT WOULD MATCH HIS FUTURE USE.
NOW WHAT HE WOULD LIKE TO DO IF HE WANTED TO LIKE RUN HIS, HE HAS A FORESTRY BUSINESS, MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING HE CAN DO BACK THERE WITHOUT HAVING TO BUILD 1600 FEET OF ROAD.
THERE'S NO ACCESS TO THE PIECE OF PROPERTY.
UM, SO I'M TRYING TO WORK WITH HIM WITH SOME LEVEL OF COMMERCIAL, MAYBE A NEIGHBOR COMMERCIAL AND OTHER TYPE USE.
NOW ON THE OTHER SIDE, IF YOU TURN RIGHT ON THE RAILROAD AVENUE, THAT'S THE ONE THAT BENDS AROUND AND THEN DOESN'T CROSS THE RAILROAD ANYMORE.
THERE'S A RESIDENTIAL HOME SITTING THERE.
AND THEN THERE IS, HE HAS A BUSINESS, HE HAS A BUILDING BACK THERE THAT HE RENTS OUT.
AND THEN I TRY TO EXPLAIN TO HIM THAT THE EXISTING USE HE HAS IN THERE AS A NON-CONFORMING USE NOT ALLOWED AN INDUSTRIAL
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ZONE.IT'S A COMMERCIAL USE THAT HE HAS BACK THERE AND THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH HIM ON SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE MORE FRIENDLY TO THE ADJOINING RESIDENTIAL AND WHAT WAS IN THAT AREA.
I HAD SUGGESTED NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL TO HIM.
SO, UH, AGAIN, IF I'M STANDING CORRECTLY, HE STILL HASN SAY AGREED WITH ANY OF THIS.
WE ASKED HIM TO TRY TO COME BACK WITH SOME COMPROMISE, NO SENSE.
AND AT LEAST HE UNDERSTOOD THAT, THAT THERE'S NO SENSE FOR THAT AREA TO BE INDUSTRIAL.
IT USED TO BE INDUSTRIAL BECAUSE OF ITS ACCESS TO THE, TO THE RAILROAD TRACK.
THERE IS NO ACCESS TO THE RAILROAD TRACK ANYMORE.
THE ONE SIDING THAT WAS PUT OFF THERE IS NO LONGER IN USE.
SO THERE'S NO ACCESS TO THE RAILROAD.
THERE'S REALLY NO OTHER INDUSTRIAL USES IN THE AREA.
MATTER OF FACT, WHEN WE WENT BACK THERE, SOMEONE'S GOT TO DO SOME ENFORCEMENT ISSUES.
THERE IS PRETTY MUCH TURNED INTO A JUNKYARD BACK IN THERE.
THE ONLY PLACE THAT'S ALLOWED TO HAVE STORAGE IS WITHIN THE FENCE AND FACILITY.
UH, BUT IT REALLY IS AN AREA THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE FROM INDUSTRIAL IS, I KEPT SAYING WE'RE NOT GONNA LEAVE IT INDUSTRIAL, BUT IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BLEND MORE IN THE AREA AND ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU MAY WANT TO DO IN THE FUTURE OF THESE SITES? SO THAT'S MY REPORT.
SO THE THREE AREAS I'M GONNA ASK FIRST, THE THREE AREAS I TALKED ABOUT THAT I SAID THAT I'M NOT PRESENTING ANY CHANGES TO OPERATING ENGINEERS FEED MORE AND WHAT SECOND AND UH, CONCRETE SITE.
OH THE, WHAT'S THAT CONCRETE SITE? THE CONCRETE SITE WE PROCEED WITH MOVING FORWARD ON THAT.
IF WE PROCEED WITH THOSE SITES, WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE SEEKER AND DO IT JUST ON THOSE SITES AND THEN DO THE, REDO THE COUNTY REFERRAL EVEN THOUGH AND JUST SAY THESE ARE THE ONES WE'RE PROCEEDING ON.
AND THEN AT A FOLLOWING MEETING AFTER THOSE 30 DAYS, THEN WE COULD ADOPT THOSE THREE BIG CHANGES FOR THE OTHER TWO AREAS I'M LOOKING FOR.
AND WHETHER THAT CAN HAPPEN TONIGHT IS IF WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE DEFINITELY GONNA MAKE CHANGES TO THE ONE WOMAN THAT OUTSIDE OF LAKEVIEW, ONE OF THE CHANGE TO RESIDENTIAL AND WHAT WE MAY DO WITH THOSE OTHER ONES.
THAT ONE AGAIN, I'M GONNA HAVE TO BREAK OUT AND REDO ONCE I GET SOME DIRECTION.
AND SAME THING WITH MR. SPITLER.
IF WE CAN WORK SOMETHING OUT THEN WE WILL DO THAT.
WE'RE NOT DOING THIS TO HARM ANYBODY, WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH 'EM, BUT JUST SHOW, AND THAT'S THE HARD PART OF PEOPLE VISIONING A CONFERENCE PLAN THAT THIS IS 10 YEARS FROM NOW, THIS IS 15.
WHAT IS THE VISION OF THE TOWN? THEY, THESE ARE NO LONGER INDUSTRIAL AREAS OF THE TOWN THEY'VE BEEN SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT FOR.
EVERYBODY LOOKS AT, THEY'RE NOT ADULT DRILL AREAS OF THE TOWN.
SO ANY QUESTIONS OF ME, LIKE THOSE THREE I'M GONNA PROCEED WITH AND HOPEFULLY WITHIN 30 DAYS BE ABLE TO PROCEED WITH ADOPTING THOSE ZONING REVISIONS.
THE OTHER TWO I NEED KIND OF DIRECTION.
WE NEED A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION.
HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THAT GENTLEMAN TO GET US A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION AND THEN HOPEFULLY MAYBE TALK TO MR. SPITLER AGAIN WHAT WOULD SERVE THE TOWN AND HIM THE BEST FOR HIS, ESPECIALLY HIS VACANT PIECES OF PROPERTY WHICH HAVE NO REAL FRONTAGE ON A HIGHWAY.
IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO DEVELOP AND I DON'T WANNA BE SITTING HERE FIVE YEARS FROM NOW.
ARE OTHER PEOPLE TELLING THEM THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THESE PIECES OF PROPERTY? MAYBE WE COME OF SOMETHING TO DO.
I EVEN SUGGESTED MAYBE THE NEW AGRICULTURAL ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH WOULD ALLOW THINGS LIKE AGRICULTURAL RELATED USES, ET CETERA ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY WITHOUT HAVING TO BUILD A ROAD OR IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE DOING A BIG RETAIL OR COMMERCIAL BUSINESS BACK THERE.
SO IF THE, THE ONE WOMAN YOU SAID IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU, UM, I'M RECOMMENDING A GO TO RESIDENTIAL.
I AGREE IT'S PART OF A RESIDENTIAL LAW.
SO IF WE SAID IF WE AGREED, THEN YOU COULD GO AHEAD WITH THAT.
I COULD THAT I, I WOULD AMEND THAT WHOLE SECTION AND I HAVE TO GET SOME, I'D LIKE TO BREAK THAT OUT.
AND DO, WE MAY HAVE TO HOLD A NEW PUBLIC HEARING OFF THE WORK WITH THE TOWN ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
IF WE ARE, MAY, IF WE MAKE CHANGES TO WHAT WE PROPOSE, THEN WE MAY HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE PUBLIC HEARING THOSE TWO AREAS.
THE LAKEVIEW OUTSIDE OF THE VILLAGE AND MR. SPITLER IS AREA ALONG THE RAILROAD TRACK.
WE WERE PROBABLY HAVE TO RE HOLD PUBLIC HEARINGS ONCE WE DECIDED ON IT.
AND AGAIN, I SHOULD BE MAKING, I CAN'T MAKE DECISIONS FOR YOU.
I DID AGREE WITH MR. SPITLER THAT PROBABLY RA ZONING DOESN'T, DOESN'T FIT HIM.
I UNDERSTAND NOW WHAT THE PROPERTIES ARE, BUT IT'S NOT INDUSTRIAL.
SO CAN WE COMPROMISE WITH A LOT OF THAT AREA IS ZONED NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, COULD WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT OR SOMETHING MORE CREATIVE IN THAT AREA? SO THE THREE, I'M GONNA PROCEED ON THE OTHER TWO I NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE DIRECTION ON.
I'LL HAVE TO GET YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE INPUT AND WE'LL HAVE TO BREAK THOSE OUT AND THEN PROCEED PROBABLY TO RE HOLD PUBLIC HEARINGS.
AND AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S STILL PEOPLE THAT NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, I THINK ARE GONNA BE OPPOSED TO IT.
BUT I'M TRYING TO, WE'RE WE ARE TRYING TO LISTEN TO THEM AND UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE.
THE OTHER ONE I HAVE, I'M TRYING TO GET MY 10 MINUTES OF FAME IN HERE.
THE OTHER ONE I HAVE IS WE'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH.
THERE'S A PIECE OF PROPERTY ON SOUTHWESTERN BOULEVARD THAT HELPS THAT THE PLANNING BOARD TURNED DOWN A PROJECT THERE.
THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY IS, IS VERY UPSET, PROCEEDED WITH THE LITIGATION WITH THE TOWN.
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UM, WE ARE TRYING TO COME TO SOME AGREEMENT ON WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO ON THE PIECE OF PROPERTY, COME TO SOME, SOME MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT, WHAT CAN BE DONE IN THE FUTURE THERE.UM, BECAUSE THE PLANNING BOARD HAS SAID VERY CLEARLY AND THE CONFERENCE PLAN SAYS IT SHOULDN'T BE ZONED SEA TWO, THE PROPERTIES ALONG SOUTHWESTERN 55 MILE AN HOUR ROAD IN THAT AREA OF, OF THE TOWN PROBABLY DOES NOT MAKE SENSE FOR SEA TWO ZONING.
WE WANT TO REZONE IT TO SOMETHING ELSE, AT LEAST THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE FRONT ON THE SOUTHWESTERN.
WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR FROM THE BOARD TONIGHT IS THAT WE WEREN'T GONNA WORK ON THE COMMERCIAL REZONING STILL.
I SENT AN EMAIL TILL NEXT YEAR.
THAT'S PART OF YOUR GRANT APPLICATION.
IF YOU WANT, AND I'M NOT ASKING FOR TONIGHT, YOU'D HAVE TO PUT A RESOLUTION IN IF YOU WANT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO LOOK AT AND COME UP WITH A DILUTION AND COME UP WITH POTENTIALLY A NEW ZONING DISTRICT FOR THAT AREA.
MATTER OF FACT, WE'RE GONNA RECOMMEND GETTING RID OF THE HAMBURG COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH WE CREATED YEARS AGO AND WE HAVE NO PROPERTY ZONE, HAMBURG COMMERCIAL.
GET RID OF THAT AND CREATE A NEW COMMERCIAL DISTRICT THAT FITS IN THESE MORE, UH, AS MR. BURN SAID AUTOMOBILE DEPENDENT AREAS, BUT AREAS THAT ARE BASICALLY RESIDENTIAL AND HEALTH IN SOUTHWESTERN.
IT'S ALMOST ALL HOUSES AROUND THERE.
MATTER OF FACT, WE'VE TAKEN AND ALREADY REZONED SOME OF THE HOUSES DOWN, DOWN THERE OVER TO BACK TO RESIDENTIAL AS THEY WERE.
SO AGAIN, IN THE FUTURE I WOULD BE LOOKING AT WORK WITH THE TOWN ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ON IF YOU WANNA AUTHORIZE US TO MOVE FORWARD.
THEY CAN'T KEEP PUSHING I GUESS OFF.
THEY WANNA SHOW THAT THE TOWN IS ACTUALLY WORKING TOWARDS PROGRESS OF RESOLVING THIS, THIS MATTER BETWEEN THE PROPERTY.
WELL I'LL LET LISA WORK WITH YOU ON, ON WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO WITH THAT.
WHETHER YOU WANT THEM TO START WORKING ON THAT.
WE WEREN'T PLANNING ON DOING IT UNTIL NEXT YEAR.
WE FOCUSED ON INDUSTRIAL SOME OTHER THINGS AND THEN NEXT YEAR WAS THE COMMERCIAL AND THE OTHER ZONING CODE CHANGES DEPENDING UPON THE AMOUNT OF GRANTS WE GET.
AND WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE JOISE YOU BRING UP, IF YOU HAVE MY UH, OUR REPORT IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT OR ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING, YOU SEE THERE'S A LOT OF ACTIVITY GOING ON AT THE, UH, AT THE, AT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND PLANNING BOARD CODE REVIEW IS DOING SOME THINGS.
I WANNA TAKE TWO MINUTES TO EXPLAIN.
YOU HAVE A CONFERENCE PLANNING IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEE, WHICH THE SUPERVISOR HAS SEEN OUR DRAFT REPORT.
I'M GONNA GET YOU THE FINALIZED REPORT ON WHAT HAPPENED THIS YEAR AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO NEXT YEAR AND IMPLEMENTING THE COMP PLAN AND THE NEEDS FOR THAT.
EACH OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT HAVE AGREED TO WHAT THOSE NEEDS ARE FOR NEXT YEAR.
UM, SO THEY'RE WORKING ON THAT.
THE CODE REVIEW COMMITTEE THOUGH, WILL STILL RESPOND TO ANY, ALL THE CALLS THAT ANNISE GETS PEOPLE SAYING, HEY, THIS DOESN'T WORK, OR QUESTION ABOUT THE CODE OR CHANGE THE ZONING.
THAT'LL STILL ALL GO THROUGH THE CODE REVIEW COMMITTEE.
IT'S THE MAJOR IMPLEMENTATION ACTIONS THAT'LL GO THROUGH THE COMPANY, THE PLAN IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEE, THOSE THINGS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED THAT THE TOWN'S GONNA MOVE FORWARD.
ALRIGHT, I THINK THAT'S MY REPORT.
I KNOW YOU HAVE A COUPLE OTHER AREAS YOU HAVE TO GIVE TO.
ALRIGHT, NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS, UH, KIM MASON REPRESENTING ALCHEMY SHORES.
UM, THANKS TO THE BOARD FOR ALLOWING US TO TALK ON THE WORK SESSION THIS EVENING.
I'M AN ATTORNEY WITH BILL SIDLE REPRESENTING ALCHEMY SHORES ON ITS APPLICATION BEFORE THIS BOARD FOR REZONING.
UM, WITH US TONIGHT WE ALSO HAVE ANN DJ AND NICOLE THE OWNERS, UH, OF ALCHEMY IN CASE WE HAVE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS THAT ARISE AFTER THE PRESENTATION.
SO, UM, ON FRIDAY WE SUBMITTED A SUPPLEMENTAL FILING.
YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE ALL RECEIVED HARD COPIES.
IT'S GONNA TAKE A LITTLE TIME TO DIGEST, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GET ON THE WORK SESSION TONIGHT TO KIND OF SUMMARIZE HIGH LEVEL WHAT'S IN THAT DOCUMENT BECAUSE WE REALLY TRIED TO CAPTURE EVERYTHING.
THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR.
WE'VE RECEIVED A LOT OF INPUT FROM A NUMBER OF BOARDS, FROM NEIGHBORS, UM, AND WE WANTED TO CAPTURE EVERYTHING ALL IN ONE PLACE.
SO MY GOAL TONIGHT IS TO RUN THROUGH THAT, UM, TELL YOU WHERE WE'VE COME OUT ON THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED BEFORE, AND THEN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE.
UM, I JUST WANNA START BY KIND OF GIVING A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THE HISTORY OF THIS APPLICATION BECAUSE IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR, FOR SOME TIME.
IT'S A SITE THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 3.3 ACRES.
IT'S GOT AN EXISTING 8,400 SQUARE FOOT STRUCTURE CURRENTLY ON IT.
IT WAS PREVIOUSLY USED FOR SWITCH HEADS, WHICH WAS A SWITCH PLATE COVER BUSINESS, UM, 4,200 SQUARE FEET OF THAT BUILDING.
SO ABOUT HALF OF THAT BUILDING IS PROPOSED FOR THE FUTURE BUFFALO CHAMPAGNE HOUSE.
UM, THIS IS A PROPOSED REZONING TO MU ONE, THE NEW ZONING DISTRICT TO DREW HAD BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR WHAT WE'RE CALLING IN THIS SUPPLEMENT AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS AS A COMMERCIAL EVENT CENTER.
BUT I'LL GET A LITTLE BIT INTO MORE OF, OF THE DETAIL ON
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THAT IN A SECOND.UM, WHAT'S SURROUNDING THIS PROPERTY? SO IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED M TWO, ZONE TWO SURROUNDING AND THERE'S A LIGHT MANUFACTURING AND DISTRIBUTION USED TO THE NORTH, WHICH IS CARBON ACTIVATED CORPORATION.
UM, THERE ARE TO THE SOUTHWEST SOUTHEAST, UM, WATERFRONT COMMERCIAL USES RESTAURANT AND LIVE MUSIC VENUE, WHICH HAS RECENTLY REOPENED ARCADE DRIVE-IN GO-KART MINI GOLF BUSINESS, AND THEN NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL TO THE SOUTH, WHICH IS A NUMBER OF RESIDENCES, UM, IN BETWEEN THIS SITE AND THEN MOVING TOWARDS COWBOY AT THE LAKE.
SO THIS REZONING CAME FROM A PROCESS OF WORKING WITH THE TOWN, WORKING WITH THE CODE REVIEW COMMITTEE AND THE TOWN PLANNING STAFF.
IN NOVEMBER OF 2022, THE APPLICANTS MET WITH THE CODE REVIEW COMMITTEE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO ON THIS PROPERTY AND WHAT THE BEST PATH FORWARD MIGHT LOOK LIKE FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE.
UM, THEY HAD A COUPLE DIFFERENT IDEAS OF WHAT THEY COULD DO AND, AND WHAT THEY WANNA DO WAS POTENTIALLY PERMITTED UNDER REZONING TO WATERFRONT COMMERCIAL OR SOME OTHER POTENTIAL, UH, DISTRICTS.
AND THE CODE REVIEW COMMITTEE ACTUALLY SUGGESTED MU ONE, IT'S A NEW DISTRICT, UM, BEING ADOPTED AND INCORPORATED INTO THE CODE.
AND IT REALLY IS FROM AN APPLICANT'S PERSPECTIVE, A MUCH MORE RESTRICTIVE ZONING DISTRICT.
IT ALLOWS FOR A LOT OF OVERSIGHT FROM THIS BOARD AND FROM THE PLANNING BOARD.
IF THE USE CHANGES, YOU HAVE TO COME BACK.
UM, IT'S A CREATIVE DISTRICT, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF OVERSIGHT FROM THE TOWN.
UM, THE APPLICANT DECIDED TO GO FORWARD WITH THAT.
IT SEEMED LIKE, UM, THE TOWN THEY WERE WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE TOWN, THE BOARD REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED IT, AND THAT'S THE PATH FORWARD.
SO THEY FILED AN APPLICATION AND STARTED BEFORE YOU ALL IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR.
AND WERE ALSO BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD AT THE SAME TIME.
SO, UM, ESSENTIALLY THE MU ONE DISTRICT, UM, YOU'RE, YOU'RE LOOKING IN THAT SECTION OF THE CODE TO REVITALIZE EXISTING STRUCTURES, UNOCCUPIED BUILDINGS, UM, REDEVELOP COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS AND REDEVELOP PROPERTIES IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT THIS BOARD WORKED ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
UM, THIS PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THOSE GOALS AND THE GOALS OF THE CONTENT GENERALLY TO RETURN UNDERUTILIZED PROPERTIES, UM, TO PRODUCTIVE USE.
AND IMPORTANTLY FOR THIS SITE TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE WATERFRONT FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
WHEN THIS WHOLE PROCESS GOT KICKED OFF, THE PLANNING BOARD BEGAN IT TO REVIEW ALSO LOCAL WATERFRONT, UM, REVITALIZATION PLAN COMMITTEE REVIEWED IT AS WELL, UM, AND ISSUED A DETERMINATION OF CONSISTENCY WITH THE PLAN, AS DID THIS BOARD.
SO THE PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDATION PROCESS WAS A, A SEVERAL MEETING LONG PROCESS.
WE RECEIVED EXCELLENT FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC, FROM, UM, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING BOARD.
PLANNING BOARD ITSELF, HELD THE PUBLIC INFORMATION SESSION IN MAY, UM, AND THE PLANNING BOARD THEN SENT YOU ALL, UM, WITH ASSISTANCE FROM TOWN PLANNING STAFF AS WELL, A REZONING REPORT THAT HAD A NUMBER OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY HAD, UM, FOR THE REZONING APPROVAL AS WELL.
AND THEN YOU ALL OBVIOUSLY HELD A, A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROJECT IN JULY WHERE WE HEARD MORE FEEDBACK, UH, FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AS WELL.
UM, WE ALSO HAD A WORK SESSION WHERE THE COUNCIL FOR THE NEIGHBORS, UH, PRESENTED SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND SOME THOUGHTS ON PROPOSED CONDITIONS FOR THE PROJECT.
SO A LOT OF GOOD FEEDBACK ON WHAT WAS SUBMITTED.
THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN WORKING AND WE WERE TABLED FOR THE LAST MEETING, UH, TO ADDRESS A LOT OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE NOTED TO UPDATE, UH, THE SITE PLAN TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS AND TO KIND OF CAPTURE ALL THE, THE WORK AND THE UPDATES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE, AS WELL AS TO PROVIDE SOME CLARIFICATIONS THAT WERE REQUESTED.
WE HAD A LOT OF GOOD QUESTIONS FROM THE NEIGHBORS AS TO SOME OF THE PROJECT DETAILS AS WELL.
SO THAT'S ALL IN YOUR SUPPLEMENT NOW.
AND WE ALSO PROVIDED A COPY SIMULTANEOUSLY TO THE NEIGHBORS COUNCIL AS WELL, SO THEY WOULD HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION IN IT.
WE'VE GOT DETAILED RESPONSES TO COMMENTS RECEIVED FROM THE BOARDS AND THE PUBLIC SUMMARIES OF PROJECT UPDATES AND SUMMARIES OF THE CLARIFICATIONS THAT I MENTIONED BEFORE.
WE'VE ALSO GOT A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON ALCHEMY'S EXISTING BUSINESSES BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT ASPECT TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT INTO THIS APPLICATION.
AND WITH SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN NOTED BY THE NEIGHBORS, THEY'VE GOT A TRACK RECORD OF SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSES THAT HAVE FIT IN AND WORKED WITH THE COMMUNITY, UM, VERY WELL IN THE PAST.
SO, GETTING INTO THAT COMMERCIAL EVENT CENTER, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE HAD RECEIVED FROM, UM, BOTH THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC WAS CLARIFICATION ON THE PROPOSED USE.
WE'VE DISCUSSED AN EVENT CENTER, BUT WITH THIS UNIQUE MU ONE ZONING DISTRICT, EVERYONE WAS LOOKING FOR A LITTLE MORE CLARIFICATION, CAPTURED AN APPLICATION AS TO WHAT EXACTLY, UH, THE APPLICANTS ARE PROPOSING ON THIS SITE.
SO WE'VE SUMMARIZED TO THE COMMERCIAL EVENT CENTER FOR WATERFRONT USES, AND IN THE THE SUPPLEMENT YOU'LL SEE DETAILING INDOOR AND OUTDOOR USES FOR PRIVATE EVENT SPACE FOR EVENTS SUCH AS WEDDINGS, SHOWERS, REUNIONS, TICKETED, PUBLIC EVENTS LIKE FUNDRAISERS, ARTS AND CRAFT SHOWS, CHILDREN'S CLASSES, HOLIDAY MARKETS, FOOD AND DRINK FESTIVALS, THE SEASONAL MOBILE BAR, WHICH YOU MAY HAVE SEEN, ALCHEMY'S,
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UM, BUBBLE BAR TRAILERS THAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE.AND THEN WATER-BASED RECREATIONAL RENTALS AND OUTDOOR ATHLETIC ACTIVITIES, YOGA, PADDLE AWARD, YOGA, BOCCE BALL VOLLEYBALL, AS WELL AS EXISTING STORAGE.
SO I MENTIONED WE'VE GOT AN 8,400 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY.
HALF OF THAT WOULD BE THE CHAMPAGNE HOUSE.
HALF OF THAT WOULD BE STORAGE TO SERVE THE BUSINESSES AND TO SERVE THE EXISTING, UM, ALCHEMY BUSINESSES AS WELL.
SO, UM, SOME FURTHER INFORMATION AS TO SIZE OF THE EVENT.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS BEFORE THIS BOARD, BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD AS TO WHAT THAT SIZE MAY LOOK LIKE.
THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO REALLY TAKEN A LOOK BASED ON THE FEEDBACK AND BASED ON THEIR EXPERIENCE AS BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE COMMUNITY, AS TO WHAT WOULD BE A VIABLE NUMBER.
SO WE HAVE KEPT IT AT 1 75, UM, FOR THE EVENTS, AND THEY ANTICIPATE THAT THE PRIME SEASON, WHICH RUNS FROM MEMORIAL DAY TO LABOR DAY, WOULD BE INDOOR OUTDOOR EVENTS FROM 10:00 AM TO MIDNIGHT WITH POTENTIAL FOR AMPLIFIED MUSIC OUTDOORS UNTIL 11:00 PM WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE NOISE ORDINANCE.
SEPTEMBER TO MAY IS THE SEASON WHERE THEY ANTICIPATE INDOOR, UH, EVENTS ONLY ON THAT 175.
IT IS ABSOLUTELY THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT THEY THINK THE NUMBER OF, OF THE MAX CAPACITY, I THINK, THAT THEY THINK IS NECESSARY FOR A VIABLE BUSINESS ENTERPRISE.
AND THEY REALLY HAVE REFLECTED AND LOOKED INTO THE NUMBERS AND WHAT WILL WORK FOR THEIR BUSINESS.
UM, AND 1 75 IS WHERE THEY'RE COMING OUT IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY KNOW ABOUT THEIR EXISTING BUSINESS, THEIR EXISTING EVENTS, AND OTHER SIMILAR, UM, BUSINESSES THAT ARE IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
ON THE OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED MUSIC.
I'LL TALK ABOUT IT IN A LITTLE BIT, BUT THEY DO.
UM, I KNOW THERE'S SUPPOSED DISCUSSION OF WHETHER OR NOT, UM, THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE BOTH AT THE PLANNING BOARD LEVEL AND, UM, AT THIS BOARD.
AND IT REALLY IS A, A VITAL PART OF A LOT OF WEDDING CEREMONIES.
THAT BEING SAID, UNDERSTAND IT'S A CONCERN OF THE NEIGHBORS.
THEY WILL SEE ON OUR UPDATED SITE PLAN THAT'S INCLUDED.
WE'VE TRIED TO PROVIDE AN IDEA OF WHERE THE GATHERING SPACES WOULD BE ON THE SITE, AND WE HAVE MOVED THEM AWAY AS FAR AS POSSIBLE FROM THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE WHERE YOU HAVE THE ADJACENT RESIDENCE.
UM, ALSO WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING NOISE ORDINANCE.
AND AGAIN, UM, CONSISTENT WITH SIMILAR USES IN THE AREA.
AS WE ALL KNOW, THE COWBOY OF THE LAKE HAS LIVE MUSIC AS WELL.
UM, THERE'S ALSO A NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL RESPONSES IN THERE.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO GET INTO THEM AS TO CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED WITH RESPECT TO TRAFFIC LIGHTING.
WE'VE GOT DETAILED RESPONSES IN, UM, THE SUPPLEMENT THAT YOU CAN DIG INTO IF YOU'D LIKE.
UM, ONE I WANTED TO POINT OUT HIGH LEVEL WAS NOISE.
UM, I KNOW WE HEARD FROM THE, UH, THE NEIGHBOR'S ATTORNEY WITH RESPECT TO CONCERNS OF NOISE AND THE NOISE REPORT, UM, THAT THEY HAD PREPARED.
SO FIRST OF ALL, THE PROJECT WILL ADHERES ALL TOWN NOISE ORDINANCES.
ALCHEMY HAS A HISTORY OF COMPLYING WITH ALL NOISE ORDINANCES.
THEY HAVE NOT RECEIVED A VIOLATION, UH, TO DATE WITH THEIR EXISTING BUSINESSES.
UM, THE PROJECT NOISE LEVELS ARE ANTICIPATED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE SOUNDS IN THE AREA OF THE SITE FROM ROUND TWO, FROM ROADWAY TRAFFIC AND FROM THE NEARBY, UM, WATERFRONT COMMERCIAL USES.
THE NOISE ASSESSMENT WAS SUBMITTED BY, UM, THE NEIGHBORS COUNCIL BY HARDER SEACREST, UM, FROM OVERALL ACOUSTICAL CONSULTANTS.
UM, THIS REPORT REPORTS TO EVALUATE THE POTENTIAL NOISE IMPACTS FROM THE PROJECT AT THE ADJOINING PROPERTY AND SOME OTHER NEIGHBORING RESIDENCES.
IT CONDUCTED ANOTHER, UH, A NUMBER OF, UH, NOISE LEVEL MEASUREMENTS FOR 12 TO 50 MINUTE INCREMENTS BETWEEN THREE TO 5:00 PM AT THE CONCLUSION OF THAT REPORT WAS THAT THE PROJECT WOULD RESULT IN SOUND LEVEL INCREASES SUBSTANTIALLY GREATER THAN MEASURED AMBIENT SOUND LEVELS.
SO, UM, THE APPLICANT'S BROUGHT ON HDR CONSULTANTS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT REPORT, UM, AND EVALUATE WHETHER OR NOT THE CONCLUSION OF THAT REPORT WAS ADEQUATELY SUPPORTED BY THE MODELING AND ASSUMPTIONS INCLUDED.
AND IF IT WAS CONSISTENT WITH DEC GUIDELINES FOR ASSESSING, UH, AND MITIGATING NOISE IMPACTS.
FIRST OF ALL, IMPORTANTLY, THE REPORT DOESN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT COWBOY AT THE LAKE 'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT WAS NOT OPEN AT THE TIME, UM, THE REPORT WAS COMPLETED, BUT IT IS CO EXISTING USE CURRENTLY, AND SOME FORM HAS BEEN A USE IN THE PAST, WHICH IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IN A NOISE ANALYSIS YOU'RE LOOKING AT AMBIENT SOUND LEVELS AND THAT'S A, AN IMPORTANT, UH, NOISE SOURCE THAT ISN'T INCLUDED.
UM, BUT ADDITIONALLY, WITH RESPECT TO THE ACTUAL ANALYSIS THAT WAS COMPLETED, UM, THE REPORT OMITS DISCUSSION OF RELEVANT TEC THRESHOLDS THAT APPLY TO COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USES.
UM, IT DOESN'T UNDERSTANDABLY TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHERE CERTAIN ACTIVITIES ARE GONNA BE LOCATED ON SITE OR WHAT THOSE ACTIVITIES ARE.
I THINK THERE'S A DESCRIPTION IN THERE OF A PATIO BAR TO BE LOCATED VERY
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CLOSE BY THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY LINE THAT IS NOT PART OF THE PROJECT.AND WE TRY TO CLARIFY THAT IN THE SUPPLEMENT.
NOW WE HAVE THOSE MOBILE BUBBLE BARS, WHICH WOULD BE LOCATED TO THE NORTH NORTHWEST OF THE PROPERTY AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBOR'S, UH, THE NEIGHBOR'S FENCE LINE.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, IT DIDN'T INCORPORATE APPROPRIATE AMBIENT NOISE MOD MODELING.
UM, TYPICALLY 24 HOUR NOISE MODELING IS DONE SO THAT YOU GET THE FULL SPECTRUM OF WHAT THE AMBI AMBIENT NOISE IS IN THE AREA.
SO HDR'S CONCLUSION IS THAT, UM, THE METHODOLOGY ANALYSIS AND CONCLUSIONS AREN'T NECESSARILY REPRESENTATIVE OF SOUND LEVELS IN THE AREA OR THE PROJECTS IMPACTED ARE ANTICIPATED IN WASTE LEVELS.
SO THERE'S A DETAILED REPORT FROM HDR IN THERE, BUT WE JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS, UM, THOSE CONCERNS THAT WERE NOTED.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT OTHER PROJECT UPDATES HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED SINCE WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH THIS PUBLIC COMMENT PROCESS? UM, THERE WAS CONCERN NOTED BY NEIGHBORS WITH RESPECT TO DRAINAGE, DRAINAGE COMING OFF THE ROOF INTO THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY.
POTENTIALLY, UH, THE APPLICANTS HAVE UPDATED THE GUTTERS AND DOWNSPOUT SYSTEM TO, TO DIVERT THE WATER AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY AND TO ADDRESS THAT CONCERN.
UM, ANOTHER CONCERN THAT, UH, THE PUBLIC RAISING THIS BOARD DISCUSSED WAS THAT THERE'S AN EXIT DOOR ON THE SIDE OF THE EXISTING BUILDING, WHICH ABUTS THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH.
UM, SO THEY HAVE CHANGED THE DESIGN OF THE FACILITY, AND THAT WOULD BE, THIS IS THE EXISTING STRUCTURE AND THERE'S AN EXIT DOOR RIGHT HERE, WHICH WAS USED FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS.
AND THEY ARE PROPOSING TO REMOVE THAT DOOR AND TO PUT THE EMERGENCY ACCESS DOOR ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING COMPLIANT WITH CODE.
SO THAT SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE BUILDING, ALL THE WINDOWS, ALL THE DOORS WOULD BE SEALED OFF AND THERE WOULD BE ADDITIONAL SOUNDPROOFING INTERNALLY.
THE STRUCTURE, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU CAN USE A SOUNDPROOF PAINT, UM, TO HELP TO MITIGATE ANY POTENTIAL NOISE ALONG THE SOUTHERN LINE OF THE BUILDING, WHICH A BUS, UH, THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OBJECT.
AND AGAIN, I ALREADY MENTIONED THE OUTDOOR GATHERING SPACE, WHETHER IT BE FOR, UM, THE BUBBLE BARS OR IT'D BE FOR OUTDOOR RECEPTION HAS BEEN MOVED, UM, AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORING RESIDENCE AND MORE TOWARDS THE NORTH, NORTH NORTHWEST OF THE PROPERTY.
HERE WHERE YOU HAVE THE OPEN AREA, THIS WOULD BE THE BEACH FRONT WHERE THERE COULD BE, UM, CEREMONIES THAT THIS, IF THERE WERE TO BE ANY OUTDOOR EVENT SPACE WOULD BE MOVED AWAY FROM THAT PROPERTY LINE.
UM, THERE WAS DISCUSSION OF A FENCE.
THEY'RE PROPOSING A NATURAL LARGE FENCE, WHICH WOULD RUN ALONG THAT SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE AS FAR AS THE DEC WOULD ALLOW.
THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING A NUMBER OF PLANTINGS, UM, ALONG THAT EDGE AS WELL TO FURTHER SCREEN.
UM, AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY THE MAIN UPDATES AND THE SITE PLAN AND ADDITIONAL MITIGATION.
UH, THERE WAS A QUESTION RAISED MULTIPLE TIMES WITH RESPECT TO SEWER.
UM, IS THE PROPERTY CONNECTED LATERALLY TO THE NEIGHBOR SEWER LINE? DIDN'T HAVE ITS OWN SEWER CONNECTION? UM, WHEN THE APPLICANTS PURCHASED THE PROPERTY, THEY BELIEVED THEY HAD THEIR OWN SEWER CONNECTION.
THIS PROCESS, THIS QUESTION CAME UP A NUMBER OF TIMES IN THE PROCESS.
UM, THE WATER, THE SEWER AUTHORITY BELIEVED THAT IT WAS A SEPARATE CONNECTION.
BOTH THE NEIGHBOR AND THE APPLICANT WERE EVALUATING WHETHER OR NOT THAT WAS THE CASE.
SO IF THIS PROJECT MOVES FORWARD, THE APPLICANT IS COMMITTED TO PUTTING IN ITS OWN SEWER CONNECTION TO ADDRESS THAT PROBLEM SO THAT THERE WILL BE NO ISSUES GOING FORWARD.
SO BRINGING IT AROUND TO THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS FOR THE REZONING, THERE WERE CONDITIONS SUGGESTED, CONDITIONS NOTED IN THE PLANNING BOARDS FOR REZONING REPORT RECOMMENDATION.
I THINK THERE WERE SOME DRAFT CONDITIONS BEFORE THIS BOARD AND THERE WERE, UH, CONDITIONS PROPOSED BY THE NEIGHBORS, UH, COUNCIL AS WELL.
SO WE HAVE INCLUDED, UM, A NUMBER OF PROPOSED CONDITIONS INCORPORATING MANY OF THOSE THAT WERE SUGGESTED BY THE ZONE, UM, INTO OUR SUPPLEMENT AS WELL.
AND I CAN RUN THROUGH WHAT THOSE CONDITIONS ARE IF YOU ALL LOOK LIKE, UM, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE AGREEING TO MANY OF THE CONDITIONS INCLUDING, UH, PRESERVATION OF THE EXISTING SAND DUNES ON SITE.
IN FACT, THE APPLICANT IS IMPROVING THE SAND DUNES ALONG WITH DEC.
THEY ARE REMOVING IT, UH, INVASIVE SPECIES AND REPLACING IT WITH NATIVE VEGETATION TO FURTHER PRESERVE THE SAND DUNES.
UM, THEY'RE WILLING TO PROVIDE AN EASEMENT FOR A MULTIMODAL TRAIL IF THE TOWN MOVES FORWARD WITH THAT, IF FEASIBLE IN THE FUTURE.
UM, THEY'VE AGREED TO THE BARRIER TO DISCOURAGE TRESPASSING AND BUFFER SOUNDS, UM, ALONG THE SOUTHERN END OF THE PROPERTY.
NO CONFETTI, NO BALLOONS OR OTHER ITEMS CAPABLE OF CAUSING LITTER ON THE BEACH.
UH, REZONING IS BASED UPON THE USES THAT WE'VE PROPOSED HERE AND DETAILED IN THE SUPPLEMENT.
UM, ANYTHING ELSE, ANY FUTURE CHANGES WOULD HAVE
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TO GO THROUGH THE ADDITIONAL PROCESS NOTED IN THE MU ONE SECTION OF THE CODE.UM, WE'VE EVENTS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ALREADY, 175 PEOPLE AS A LIMITATION, NO EXTERIOR EVENTS OR ACTIVITIES AT THE SITE AFTER 11:00 PM NO OUTDOOR, UM, AMPLIFIED MUSIC AFTER 11:00 PM AND SITE LIGHTING WILL BE DESIGNED WITH SHIELDING BE DARK STAR, SKY COMPLIANT, AND SHUT OFF OR GREATLY REDUCED AFTER 11:00 PM.
UM, SO WE'VE INCORPORATED A NUMBER OF THE CONDITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SUGGESTED BY THE TOWN.
SO IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT THEY'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK.
WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK, UM, TO ADDRESS ALL THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED AND TRIED TO CAPTURE IT ALL OF WHAT WE'VE SUBMITTED BEFORE THE BOARD, UM, AS YOU HOPEFULLY MOVE TOWARDS A SECRET DETERMINATION OR REZONING DETERMINATION, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE HERE REQUESTING TONIGHT.
BUT, UM, WE BELIEVE THIS, THIS IS AN EXCELLENT REUSE OF THIS PROPERTY.
WE REALLY TRIED TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORS.
UM, BUT THIS IS A, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS OWNER TO THE PROVEN TRACK RECORD OF WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY AND A USE THAT IS VERY, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT'S CONTEMPLATED AND WHAT THE GOALS ARE THAT ARE OUTLINED IN THE COMP PLAN IN THE IU ONE DISTRICT.
SO IT'S A LOT, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION.
IF YOU ONLY HAVE, I I HAVE ONE QUESTION.
UM, DID I HEAR YOU SAY THAT THE OUTSIDE USE, ANY OUTSIDE USE WOULD ONLY BE BETWEEN MEMORIAL DAY AND LABOR DAY? THAT'S WHAT'S CONTEMPLATED? YES.
THE PEAK SEASON WOULD BE THE OUTDOOR SEASON.
SO THERE, AFTER LABOR DAY, THEY WOULD CONTEMPLATE ALL THE USES WOULD BE INDOORS.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, OUTSIDE USE WOULD ONLY BE BETWEEN MEMORIAL DAY AND LABOR DAY.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT I HEARD, BUT I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
AND THEN DID YOU COMMENT AT ALL ABOUT, UM, INSIDE MUSIC TIME OR ANYTHING ON THAT, OR THE EVENTS? LIKE AN IN, I I HEARD YOU SAY THAT AN OUTSIDE EVENT WOULD END AT 1111.
WHAT ABOUT INSIDE EVENTS? WE HAVE, UH, TILL MIDNIGHT FOR INDOOR EVENTS, BOTH DURING THE ENTIRE YEAR.
UM, THEY, YOU WERE STATING THAT THE MAX OCCUPANCY THAT YOU WERE HOPING TO GET IS 1 75, RIGHT.
HAVE YOU TALKED WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT AND WHAT'S THEIR DETERMINATION? BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE THE ONES WHO DETERMINE OCCUPANCY, NOT SO MAX OCCUPANCY, SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU, MAX OCCUPANCY OF THE BUILDING IS HIGHER THAN 1 75.
THIS IS, BUT IS THAT FOR THE WHOLE 8,400 SQUARE FEET, RIGHT.
NOT THE CJ YOU WANNA ANSWER THAT QUESTION? NO, IT'S JUST FOR THE 42.
AND CODE ENFORCEMENT GAVE YOU THAT NUMBER? YEAH.
59 WITH THE ANTICIPATION THAT IT'S BEING USED AS EVENTS SPACE.
SO LIKE THERE'S SEATING OR THERE'S BATHROOMS, 88 BATHROOMS, SEATING.
SO THE 1 75 IS AN ADDITIONAL MITIGATION OF, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GIVING UP PEOPLE THAT COULD BE ALLOWED IN THE BUILDING PURSUANT TO CODE TO ADDRESS CONCERNS.
BUT, BUT REALLY 1 75 IS, IS THE MINIMUM THAT WILL MAKE IT VIABLE.
AND THAT INCLUDES THE NUMBER OF WORKERS, RIGHT? 1 75 IS NOT 170 WEDDING GUESTS AND IT DOES NOT WORKERS, IT DOES NOT INCLUDE WORKERS, IT'S THE EVENT GUESTS, BUT WE ANTICIPATE THAT THAT WOULD BE A STAFF OF 10 FOR A FULL EVENT.
AND YOU COMMENTED ON THE, THE SEWER LINE.
SO WHEN, WHEN IS THE ANTICIPATED DATE THAT THAT WOULD BE TAKING PLACE THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE BEFORE ANY EVENT WAS HELD THERE? CORRECT.
ONCE THE PROJECT IS APPROVED, ONCE THEY KNOW THEY HAVE A PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, UM, THEY WOULD GET THAT UPDATED.
BUT ARE THERE EVENTS HAPPENING NOW? THERE? NO.
CURRENTLY, UM, THE BATHROOM FACILITIES ARE USED.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, THEY HAVE, UM, SOME STORAGE FOR THE EXISTING ALCHEMY BUSINESSES.
THERE'S A COOLER FOR THEIR FLOWERS FROM ALCHEMY ACRES.
SO ANN AND MC PULL ARE OFTEN ON SITE AND USE THE RESTROOMS. BUT THAT'S WHAT THE CURRENT USE, I RECALL IN THE REPORT THERE WAS, UH, A MENTION ABOUT SOUNDPROOFING IN THE INSIDE.
CAN YOU TALK ABOUT EXACTLY, UM, WHAT THAT'LL ENTAIL AND, AND HOW THAT'LL BE SUCCESSFUL? YEP.
SO THE FIRST, UM, PART OF IT IS REALLY CLOSING OFF THOSE WINDOWS AND THE DOOR ON THAT SIDE.
SO THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY OPENINGS RUNNING ALONG THAT SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
AND THEN THEY'RE EXPLORING SOUNDPROOFING OPTIONS.
AND I, I, I'M SURE THE PLANNING BOARD WILL HAVE INPUT AS WELL, BUT I THINK THE THOUGHT RIGHT NOW IS THERE ACTUALLY IS A SOUNDPROOFING PAINT THAT YOU CAN USE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW IT WORKS.
JUJ, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THAT ONE.
UM, BUT THEY'RE OPEN TO ADDITIONAL SUGGESTIONS.
I BELIEVE THAT THE REPORT MENTIONED SOMETHING.
YOU MENTIONED THE FENCING AND THE PLANTINGS.
BUT DOES THE REPORT MENTION A, A BERM THAT, SO THE, THE, UM, NEIGHBORS COUNCIL HAD REQUESTED A BERM.
THERE REALLY ISN'T ENOUGH ROOM THERE, ESPECIALLY THE NEIGHBORS GOT, UM, SOME, SOME NICE PLANTINGS THAT RUN ALONG THE SIDE
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THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DISTURBED TO REALLY BUILD UP THAT AREA AND PUT A BURN.UM, WE'RE STILL DOING, PROPOSING A LARGE FENCE BOTH FOR SOUNDPROOFING PURPOSES AND SCREENING.
UM, AND I THINK ON, ON THE SIDE OF, YOU KNOW, HOW TALL IT SHOULD BE PLANNING, WE'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO A BURN AS WELL.
SORRY TO INTERRUPT A BURN AS WELL.
THERE WOULD BE LIKE, THE GRADE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OUR PROPERTY AND OUR NEIGHBOR AND CHASE PROPERTY IS VERY DIFFERENT.
SO IF WE WERE TO RAISE IT OFF EVEN HIGHER, I'M SURE THAT THE WATER LINE OFF WOULD BE EVEN MORE, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE JUST THE WAY IT IS, GRADE IT PROPERTY BACK TOWARDS LAKE, IT WOULD BE A LOT BETTER.
SO GIVEN THE FACT THAT, THAT YOUR PROPERTY IS HIGHER THAN THE ADJACENT NEIGHBOR, WHAT, UM, WHAT PLAN IS THERE FOR, UH, REMEDIATING ANY POTENTIAL FOR FLOODING ON THEIR PROPERTY IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN BE DONE NOW OR WHAT, HOW IT'LL BE ADDRESSED WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS? YOU JUST SAID THAT IT'S HIGHER THAN THE NEIGHBORS.
UM, WE CAN ONLY DO SOME OF, BUT WE WE'RE PLANNING ON TAKING THE DOWN SPOTS THAT ARE ON THE, UH, SOUTH SIDE AND WE'RE GONNA BASICALLY PUT THEM DOWN TOWARDS THE LAKE AND THEN KIND OF DISPERSE 'EM UNDERGROUND WITH PERFORATED PIPE AND KIND OF JUST HAVE THE WATER RUN OFF INTO THE PLANTS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO PUT THERE AGAINST FENCE THAT'S GUTTERS FROM THE ROOF.
WHAT ABOUT BEYOND THE, UM, END OF THE BUILDING? ANY OF THE, IN OTHER WORDS, WHERE YOUR PROPERTY, IF YOUR PROPERTY'S HIGHER AND THERE'S LOW AND THERE'S AS LOWER AS YOU JUST SAID, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE SOLUTION FOR DRAINAGE ISSUES OTHER THAN THE ROOF? I CAN'T REALLY CUT BACK, YOU KNOW, LIKE IT'S KIND OF, IT'S HARD TO, DIFFICULT TO CUT BACK THAT MUCH.
IT'S QUITE A BIT HIGHER THAN PROPERTY, BUT AGAIN, NOTHING FROM THE PROJECT WOULD BE EXACERBATING THE EXISTING ISSUES.
AND, AND WE'VE TRIED TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE EXISTING ISSUES WITH THE RUNOFF COMING FROM THE ROOF AND THE GUTTERS BY, UM, RELOCATING DOWN SPOTS.
SO THOSE PIPES GOING OUT, COULD THAT INCORPORATE OR ALSO, UM, BE PUT INTO A ADDRESS TO HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE POTENTIAL FOR WATER BUILDING UP IN THAT AREA? YES.
I MEAN, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE DOING THAT, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT MIGHT BE A, A LOGICAL WAY TO ADDRESS BOTH, YOU KNOW, DID SOME SORT OF FIGHT, LET LOCK NOT JUST COME DOWN AND PULL, YOU KNOW, AND YOU'RE TALKING TOWARDS THE FRONT OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURES.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE AND BEYOND THE BACK FROM THE BACK OF THE BACK.
BUT IF THAT, IF YOU'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THE DRAINAGE IN ONE AREA, THEN I WOULD THINK ADDRESSING THE DRAINAGE THAT ENTIRE PROPERTY WOULD BE IMPORTANT BOTH FOR YOU AND FOR THE NEIGHBOR.
AND TO ALLEVIATE ANY FUTURE ISSUES.
THE FRAUD ACTUALLY GOES INTO DI'S PRODUCT DISCUSSION.
AND SO THAT COULD ALSO BE INCORPORATED IN THE MM-HMM
AND AM I TO UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY? 'CAUSE IT WAS JUST BASED OFF, THAT'S QUESTION.
THE SEWER LINING OF CONCERN IS ONLY BEING GOING TO BE ADDRESSED IF THE PROJECT'S APPROVED GOING FORWARD, IF IT'S PROJECT'S NOT APPROVED, THEN IT WON'T BE ADDRESSED.
YEAH, WELL, AS OF RIGHT NOW IT'S A, IT'S AN EXISTING CONNECTIVE LATERAL.
IT WILL NEED TO BE UPDATED IF WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT.
AND THERE'S BEEN ANTICIPATED TO BE INCREASED SEWER USAGE AT THE SITE.
SO IF THIS PROJECT OR ANOTHER PROJECT IS APPROVED, IT WILL HAVE TO BE UPGRADED.
OH, WILL, WILL WE GET THE REPORT? WE, I THINK IT WAS EMAILED POST, IT WAS EMAILED AND HARD COPIES WERE DELIVERED THIS MORNING.
IT WAS LIKE A UNDER PAID POST.
YEAH, I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE, UH, MR. RILEY.
UM, WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND LEGAL COUNSEL, BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MUCH GREATER DETAIL AND YOUR PURPOSE OF AN MU ONE DISTRICT IS ADD THAT DETAIL.
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE NEXT TOWN BOARD MEETING YOU CALL ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING TO LET THE PUBLIC TO REVIEW THIS.
I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE, RIGHT NOW IT'S LIKE A, WE, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, WE'RE CHANGING.
WE'VE ASKED 'EM, AND THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT OF WHAT EXACTLY IS GONNA GO ON THE SITE.
I WOULD SUGGEST JUST CALLING ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING AND LET THE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ALL THAT NEW INFORMATION.
AND THEN THE TOWN BOARD BEEN TAKE AN ACTION BASED UPON FURTHER INPUT FROM THE
WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY NOT TAKING ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF IT, IF IT CAN BE A QUICK QUESTION AND A QUICK ANSWER, THEN WE'LL ENTERTAIN, UM, BECAUSE OF THE LAPTOP WHEN OUR ATTORNEY WAS HERE, UM, THERE, UM, AS FAR AS RESPONSE OPPORTUNITY,
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UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE ISN'T ONE NOW.UM, BUT TO YOUR POINT, DREW, WHEN HAD OUR RESPONSE WOULD BE HEARD EITHER FROM US INDIVIDUALLY OR THROUGH OUR ATTORNEY BECAUSE OF LIKE THE EXPENSE OF BRINGING HIM BACK, I'M SUGGESTING MAY FOLLOW ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING IN OCTOBER COMMENT AND HAVE A REASONABLE CHANCE TO REVIEW ALL THE INFORMATION.
I HAVE AN EXTRA COPY INSTEAD, YOU'RE GONNA ASK, YOU CAN HAVE AN EXTRA COPY OF, OF THE REPORT AND WE'LL ALLOW THOSE FROM BETWEEN NOW AND AFTER PUBLIC HEARING.
YOU CAN PROVIDE THOSE COMMENTS.
ESPECIALLY WITH THE DISCREPANCY IN THE
WE'LL YOU'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING PUBLIC COMMENTS WHEN WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL PUBLIC HEARING.
AND I DO WANNA MAKE JUST ONE FINAL POINT FOR CLARIFICATION.
WITH DREW'S POINT ON NEW INFORMATION FROM, OTHER THAN THE UPDATES OF MOVING THE CONCEPTUAL USE USES ON THE SITE, WHICH IS ON THE PLAN AND THE CONCERNS WE'VE ADDRESSED ON THE SIDE OF MITIGATION, WHAT WE'VE CAPTURED IN THE REPORT WITH RESPECT TO USES IS WHAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED FROM THE BEGINNING.
IT'S BEEN MENTIONED ON THE RECORD A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT TIMES.
WE'VE JUST TRIED TO CAPTURE IT IN WRITING, BUT IT IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED BEFORE THE BOARD AND AT THE SEVERAL PUBLIC MEANS.
IT'S JUST A LITTLE BETTER IF YOU IDENTIFY THE LOCATIONS OF THOSE NAMES, THAT'S WE KIND KNOWN, BUT THE PUBLIC WANNA KNOW WHERE ARE WE PUTTING THOSE THINGS ON THE SITE AND WHERE CAN THEY BE BECOME.
SO AT THIS POINT I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS ISSUES RELATING TO PERSONNEL AND POTENTIAL LITIGATION.
SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MCC FAVOR? AYE.
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GONNA CALL THE ORDER OF THE, UH, REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING THE TOWN HAMBURG.AND I ASK YOU TO PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEASURE.
ALRIGHT FOLKS, WE HAVE BEFORE US A AGENDA WITH ABOUT 18, 17, 18 ITEMS ON IT.
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FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE NEW TO, TO BOARD MEETINGS, UH, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WORK THROUGH THIS, THIS AGENDA.UM, ONCE WE GET TO THE CONCLUSION OF THIS AGENDA, WE WILL THEN OFFER THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, WE ASK THAT YOU COME UP TO THE PODIUM, UH, NUMBER ONE SO THAT WE CAN HEAR YOU.
BUT NUMBER TWO, SO THAT THE FOLKS THAT ARE WATCHING THE LIVE STREAM FROM HOME CAN HEAR YOU ON THE MICROPHONE.
WE ASK THAT YOU LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO ROUGHLY THREE MINUTES.
AT THREE MINUTES, I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A REMINDER THAT WE'RE AT THREE MINUTES IN HOPES THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO BRING YOUR REMARKS TO A CONCLUSION.
IF YOU CONTINUE, CONTINUE TO SPEAK, WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE YOU ARRESTED.
UM, BUT WE JUST ASK YOU TO BE RESPECTFUL OF EVERYBODY'S TIME.
UM, YOUR TIME AT THE PODIUM IS NON-TRANSFERRABLE.
YOU CANNOT GIVE YOUR THREE MINUTES TO SOMEBODY ELSE AFTER PUBLIC EXPRESSION.
AND ALSO THAT THAT PUBLIC EXPRESSION PERIOD IS FOR YOU TO DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS TO THE BOARD.
SO WE ASK THAT YOU DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS TO THE BOARD AND NOT EXPECT BACK AND FORTH CONVERSATION WITH BOARD MEMBERS.
BOARD MEMBERS WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO YOUR REMARKS AND QUESTIONS DURING REPORTS FROM THE BOARDS, WHICH WILL FOLLOW REPORTS FROM DEPARTMENT HEADS.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'LL ASK THE TOWN CLERK TO CALL THE ROLE SUPERVISOR HOKE PRESENT.
AS SEEING, WE'VE DONE THE BUDGET ALLEGIANCE ALREADY THAT TAKE US ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE.
BE RESOLVED THAT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD DOES HEREBY APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING AS FOLLOWS, REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2023.
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER GRUBER.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HOGO IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THIS NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A, UH, NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING.
PLEASE TAKE NOTICE THAT THERE HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO THE TOWN BOARD ON AUGUST 14TH, 2023.
PURSUANT TO MUNICIPAL HOME RULE LAW, PROPOSED LOCAL LAW TO BE KNOWN AS PROPOSED LOCAL LAW NUMBER 12 20 23 SAID LOCAL LAW PROVIDES FOR AN AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER TWO 80 OF THE ZONING CODE OF TOWN OF HAMBURG BY ADDING A NEW ARTICLE ENTITLED ADULT USE CANNABIS.
THEREFORE, PURSUANT TO THE STATUTES AND PROVISIONS OF THE MUNICIPAL HOME RULE, LAW TO TOWN, BOARD OF TOWN OF HAMBURG WILL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 25TH, 2023 AT 7:00 PM LOCAL TIME AT WHICH ALL INTERESTED PERSONS MAY BE HEARD.
SO THIS BEGINS OUR PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED ADULT USE CANNABIS LAW.
AND, UH, THIS OPENS UP A PERIOD OF PUBLIC COMMENT.
SAME RULES APPLY FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE BOARD, PLEASE DO SO AT THE PODIUM.
PLEASE LIMIT YOUR REMARKS TO ROUGHLY THREE MINUTES.
IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THE PROPOSED ADULT USE CANNABIS LAW? YES, SIR.
HI, MY NAME IS RYAN GRAVES, OWNER OF THE PROPERTY OF 44 33 SOUTHWESTERN BOULEVARD.
UM, WE ARE HOPING TO OPEN UP AN ADULT USE CANNABIS, UH, DISPENSARY AT THAT LOCATION CALLED THE CANNABIS COMPANY.
UH, WE'VE BEEN IN THE INDUSTRY FOR 27 YEARS AS THE OWNERS OF DECADES, PSYCHEDELIC DAYS, DECADES, TWO DECADES, HAMBURG.
UH, SO WE BRING 27 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE INTO THE INDUSTRY.
UM, THE BUSINESS WILL BE OWNED BY MY WIFE AND I, LISA, UM, AND MYSELF.
UH, SHE IS, UH, 26 YEARS SPECIAL EDUCATION TEACHER, UH, DEALING WITH SOME, YOU KNOW, SPECIAL ED STUDENTS.
UH, SHE ALSO WORKS WITH THE BOOKS.
SHE DOES ACCOUNTING FOR THE BUSINESS AS WELL.
UH, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR WITH THE BUILDING IS TO BE ABLE TO PUT THE DISPENSARY WHERE DECADES IS RIGHT NOW, UH, KEEPING THE BARBERSHOP AND THEN KEEPING THE OFFICE SPACE ABOVE, WHICH IS ABOUT 2000 SQUARE FEET.
UM, WHAT WE'RE NOT SURE OF RIGHT NOW IS WHAT HAMBURG PLANS ON DOING WITH OTHER REGULATIONS, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE HERE.
UM, DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UM, OR COMMENTS ON WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR FOR DISPENSARY? SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE A, A DRAFT LAW.
UM, I DON'T HAVE A COPY OF IT HERE, BUT, UH, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO, TO CIRCULATE THAT.
WE'LL BE HAPPY TO, TO GET YOU A COPY.
MOST OF WHAT WE HAVE IN THE DRAFT LAW RIGHT NOW IS CONSISTENT WITH THE REGULATIONS THAT THE, UH, OFFICE OF CANNABIS MANAGEMENT HAS, HAS INCLUDED.
NOW, DO YOU KNOW IN THE LAW IF THERE'S ANY, UM, 'CAUSE I KNOW LIKE THE QUEUE HAS A DIFFERENT WAY OF LOOKING AT IT AND WHERE SENECA HAS A DIFFERENT WAY, LIKE WHERE SENECA, YOU CAN'T ABUT TO ANY, UH, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY WHERE UNLESS IT'S RESIDENTIAL MISUSE, IS AMBER GONNA HAVE
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ANYTHING CONSIDERED IN THAT LINE OR, I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE'S ANYTHING CURRENTLY, UH, IN REGARDS TO, UM, BEING ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL.THERE'S NOTHING CURRENTLY IN WHAT, WHAT'S IN FRONT OF THE BOARD.
BUT I HAVE TO SAY THAT THIS, UH, CANNABIS LAW IS, UH, IT, IT'S BASICALLY A CREATURE OF STATE LAW.
YOU'VE GOT THIS STATE AGENCY, THE OFFICE OF CANNABIS MANAGEMENT, AND PUT IT PRETTY STRAIGHT ORDERLY.
UM, SO WHEN SOMEONE APPLIES FOR, UM, UH, PERMISSION TO HAVE, UM, A, UM, A DISPENSARY, THE MOST THAT A MUNICIPALITY CAN DO IS THINKING WHAT'S CALLED AN OPINION.
AND THAT'S THE WAY THE WHOLE, UH, LAW IS SET UP IS, UH, AND THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE VERY STRICT RULES ABOUT PROXIMITY TO SCHOOLS, PROXIMITY TO, UH, CHURCHES, BUT THERE'S NOT, THERE'S 344 PAGES OF REGULATIONS.
THERE IS NOT A WORD IN THOSE REGULATIONS ABOUT RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
SO I HONESTLY THINK IF THE BOARD WERE TO VOTE ON A LOCAL LAW THAT HAD SOMETHING IN IT ABOUT PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS, NUMBER ONE, I DON'T THINK THE, FRANKLY THE OFFICE OF CANADA'S MANAGEMENT WOULD PAY ANY ATTENTION TO WHAT, UH, THE BOARD HAD TO SAY ABOUT THE SUBJECT.
UM, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, THEY, THEY SET THE RULES.
UH, AND, AND NUMBER TWO, I, I HAVE A SERIOUS QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER THAT WE EVEN BE ENFORCEABLE, UH, BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT BASICALLY, LIKE I SAID, THE OFFICE OF KENNETH, MS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION OR NOT.
SO THAT WAS MY BIG CONCERN JUST BECAUSE THERE IS A RESIDENTIAL APARTMENT UP ABOVE, YOU KNOW, BUILDING IS A MIXED USE.
UM, BUT I THINK, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL AT THE LOCATION.
YOU TALKING ABOUT THE ONE IN BLAZE THOUGH? UH, HAMBURG AT 44, 33 AT THE CORNER OF, UM, IT'S THE OLD HAMBURG MUSIC CENTER.
THERE'S A, THERE'S SOME SORT OF APARTMENT.
YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S A, IT'S WHERE THE OWNER USED TO LIVE AND THAT'S WHERE MY DAUGHTER'S GONNA, YOU KNOW, SHE, WHERE SHE'S IN COLLEGE PUT DORM, SHE'S GONNA TAKE THAT OVER ONCE WE'RE DONE FIXING THE STUFF THAT WAS WRONG WITH IT.
BUT IF WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN'T BE NEAR RESIDENTIAL, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN'T HAVE IT, YOU KNOW, APARTMENT BUILDING, WE WOULD THEN TURN THAT INTO OFFICE SPACE.
YOU KNOW, AND THEN ASK FOR A REZONING OF THAT THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS AND HAVE THE BUILDING REZONED SO WE CAN TAKE THE APARTMENT OFF OF THAT LISTING.
THAT WAS OUR MAIN CONCERN, JUST 'CAUSE THE PROPERTY BEHIND US USED TO BE AN OLD AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR SHOP.
AND THEN BEHIND THAT IS THE GUY WITH THE 24 HOUR FLEA MARKET.
SO MARK, DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE DRAFT LAW? YES, I DO.
ANYBODY ELSE COME TO BE HEARD ON THE, UH, ADULT USE CANNABIS DRAFT LAW? ALL RIGHT.
HEARING NO ONE ELSE, UH, I'LL MAKE IT A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MOTION TO CLOSE BY SUPERVISOR HULK.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CONLEY.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
OPPOSED THEN CHIEF CARRIED BE RESOLVED THAT THE HAMBURG TOM BOARD DOES HEREBY APPROVE THE PERSONNEL ACTION FORM PAF AS FOLLOWS.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG APPROVES THE TRANSFER OF $23,320 FROM AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDS ACCOUNT A 4 0 8 9 TO ACCOUNT DB 5 1 3 2 1 FOR MODELING YEAR UPGRADES DUE TO AVAILABILITY OF TRUCKS WHILE THE PURCHASE NEW WESTERN STAR PLOW TRUCKS, UM, WAS BEING PROCESSED.
PRICING IS PER OUS COUNTY MUNICIPAL BID PURCHASED THROUGH FLEET MANAGEMENT INCORPORATED IN BODY ADDITIONS OF VALLEY FAB.
YOUR RESULTS OF JOHN CLARK BE AUTHORIZED TO ADVERTISE FOR PUBLIC HEARING TO REVIEW THE REQUESTS OF THE VARIOUS VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANIES AND FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICTS FOR THE 2024 CONTRACTS WITH THE TOWN.
PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE SCHEDULED ON OCTOBER 23RD, 2023 AT 7:00 PM LOCAL TIME.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
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THE RESOLVE THE TOWN CLERK BE AUTHORIZED TO ADVERTISE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING IN THE 2024 TIME AMBRIDGE BUDGET.THE HEARING IS SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER 23RD, 2023 AT 7:00 PM LOCAL TIME.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
YOU RESOLVE THAT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVED THE TERMINATION AND HIRING OF PERSONNEL FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF YOUTH RECREATION AND CEDAR SERVICES AS PER THE ATTACHED PAF.
THE TOWN OF BURY TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZED ON THAT THE CONTRACT FOR THIS PROJECT IS AWARDED TO JAY BOGNER CONSTRUCTION LLC FOR THE REPAIR OF THE TOWN CLOCK, TOWER SIDEWALK AND RETAINING WHILE DAMAGE IN THE FALL OF 2019 STORM.
AND WHEREAS A PORTION OF THE COSTS WILL BE REIMBURSED BY FEMA AS LONG AS THE PROJECT WAS COMPLETED BY SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2023.
WHEREAS CONSTRUCTING THE CLOCK TIRE SIDEWALK AND CAN INVOLVE INSPECTED BY A THIRD PARTY INSPECTION FIRM, THE TOWN ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND ALL PARTIES ARE SATISFIED THAT THE WORK WAS COMPLETED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS FOR THE PROJECT PRIOR TO SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2023.
YOU RESOLVE THAT THE TOWN BOARD HEREBY ACCEPTS THIS PROJECT AND CONTRACT AS COMPLETE AND CLOSED.
THE TOTAL AMOUNT PAID FOR DESIGN ENGINEERING, CONSTRUCTION AND INSPECTION SERVICES WAS $1,397,802 AND 20 CENTS.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CON IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
OPPOSED? INTENTIONS CARRIED WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG HAS BEEN UNDER AN ORDER OF CONSENT BY THE NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENT CONSERVATION SINCE 2001 FOR SANITARY SEWER OVER CLOSE FROM THE MOUNT VERNON SEWER DISTRICT AND WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG IS WORKING TO RESOLVE THE SSO EVENTS IN THE MOUNT VERNON SANITARY SEWER DISTRICT AND WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT HAS REQUESTED PRICING FROM UNITED SURVEY INC.
FROM THE CURRENT ERIE COUNTY MAINTENANCE CONTRACT FOR CLEANING AND TELEVISING THE CIPP LINING OF 32,144 LINEAR FEET OF EIGHT INCH EXISTING SEWER PIPE, 291 LINEAR FEET OF 10 INCH EXISTING SEWER PIPE, 879 LINEAR FEET OF 18 INCH EXISTING SEWER PIPE AND 550 HOUSE SERVICE LATERAL CUTOUTS.
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZED A SUPERVISOR TO SIGN THE ATTACHED PROPOSAL.
23 DASH 86 FROM UNITED SURVEY INC.
AWARDING ITEMS 100 200 300 400 500 600 IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,347,451 AND 70 CENTS PROJECT TO BE CHARGED TO A 1 4 9 0 3 0 3 4 0 3 PUBLIC WORKS IMPROVEMENT IMPROVEMENTS ARPA.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AN AYE AYE.
WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG HAVE PREPARED BID DOCUMENTS FOR THE 18 MILE GOLF FOREST IRRIGATION PROJECT, WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG INTENDS TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE TIME FOR ADVERTISING AND ALSO PROVIDE A CLEAR DIRECTION TO POTENTIAL BIDDERS.
IT RESOLVED THAT HIS TOWN CLERK IS AUTHORIZED TO RE ADVERTISE FOR SEALED BIDS ENTITLED 18 MILE CREEK GOLF COURSE IRRIGATION SYSTEM IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND EXTEND THE BID OPENING TO OCTOBER 17TH, 2023 AT 10:00 AM SEALED BIDS SEPARATE WILL BE RECEIVED AT TOWN HALL TOWN CLERK'S OFFICE 6,100 SOUTH PARK AVE HAMBURG, NEW YORK 1 4 0 7 5 AND SAID BID WILL BE PUBLICLY OPENED IN READ ALOUD ON TUESDAY, OCTOBER 17TH.
AND CONFERENCE ROOM SEVEN AB DOWNSTAIRS AT 10:00 AM MAIL BIDS SHOULD BE SENT TO TOWN OF HAMBURG.
CLEARLY MARKED ATTENTION TOWN CLERK BID.
ENCLOSED 18 MILE CREEK GOLF COURSE IRRIGATION 6,100 SOUTH PARK AVENUE, HAMBURG, NEW YORK 1 4 0 7 5.
SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER CONLEY.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY SAYING AYE.
WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HANDBOOK ISSUED REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS FOR ENGINEERING DESIGN SERVICES TO CONSTRUCT A NEW PARKING AND LOCATED A TOWN HALL 6,100 SOUTH PARK AVENUE AND WHERE SEVERAL FIRM SUBMITTED DETAILED SUBMITTALS FOR THESE SERVICES AND WERE RECEIVED BY A COMMITTEE TO SELECT THE FIRM THEREFORE BE RESOLVED.
ING TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZED THE TOWN SUPERVISOR TO SIGN THE PROPOSAL FROM WENDELL WD ARCHITECTURE ENGINEERING SURVEYING AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE PC FOR THE TOWN HALL PARKING LOT PROJECT IN THE AMOUNT OF $48,680 FUNDS AVAILABLE AVAILABLE IN H 1 0 8 POINT 1440 0.456 PROFESSIONAL SERVICES TOWN HALL PARKING LOT.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE STATE SAY AYE.
RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES THE HAMBURG TOWN JUSTICE
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COURT TO APPLY FOR THE 20 23 20 24 JUSTICE COURT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.JC AP GRANT FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE COURTROOM, THE MAXIMUM JACP AWARD IS $30,000.
SECOND MOTION MY COUNCILMAN PHIL LAUREN.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE A.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO RESOLUTION NUMBER 15 AND THAT WOULD BE TO DELETE THE LAST THEREFORE AND REPLACE IT WITH THE FOLLOWING, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED.
THAT NOTICES HEREBY GIVEN THAT THE TOWN OF HAMBURG REFUSE AND RECYCLING COMMITTEE WILL CONDUCT AN INFORMATIONAL MEETING TO PROVIDE INFORMATION AND SOLICIT INPUT FROM RESIDENTS.
THE MEETING WILL OCCUR ON TUESDAY, OCTOBER 24TH AT 5:30 PM AT HAMBURG TOWN HALL S 6,100 SOUTH PARK AVE, HAMBURG, NEW YORK 1 4 0 7 5 LOCAL TIME, UH, TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC INFORMATION ON THE CREATION OF A TOWN GARBAGE DISTRICT.
SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER CONLEY SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER HOKE.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
UH, WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG FORMED A RECYCLING OF REFUSE COMMITTEE TO EXPLORE THE STATE OF OUR TOWN'S GARBAGE COLLECTION AND ANALYZE THE COST SERVICES AND OVERALL SATISFACTION OF OUR RESIDENTS.
AND WHEREAS MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE REVIEWED THE LIST OF MUNICIPALITIES THROUGHOUT WESTERN NEW YORK TO FIND OUT HOW THEY HANDLE GARBAGE COLLECTION AND ALSO MET WITH AND SPOKE TO SEVERAL TOWN OFFICIALS AND A VARIETY OF TOWNS THROUGHOUT WESTERN NEW YORK TO GET FEEDBACK ON THEIR EXPERIENCES WITH HANDLING, RECYCLING AND REFUGE.
AND WHEREAS THE COMMITTEE HEARD ABOUT CONCERNS SURROUNDING THE SAFETY AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF HAVING MULTIPLE RECYCLING AND GARBAGE REFUGE PROVIDERS DRIVING THROUGHOUT OUR TOWN AS COMPARED TO A SINGLE PROVIDER.
AND WHEREAS THE COMMITTEE RECEIVED DOZENS OF RESIDENT COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN COSTS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN EXPERIENCING, IN MANY CASES AN INCREASE OF OVER 100% IN A MATTER OF YEARS HAS BEEN SEEN.
AND WHEREAS THE COMMITTEE PULLED RESIDENTS AND FOUND THAT THE COST VARIATION BETWEEN WHAT SOME RESIDENTS PAY COMPARED TO OTHERS IN, FOR EXAMPLE, OVER $200.
AND WHEREAS THERE ARE CURRENTLY ONLY TWO TOWNS IN ERIE COUNTY THAT DO NOT HAVE A REFUGE DISTRICT.
HAMBURG AND CLARENCE, BOTH TOWNS ARE CURRENTLY REVISITING THE IDEA OF CREATING A GARBAGE DISTRICT.
BOTH TOWNS HAVE SEEN A MAJOR INCREASE IN RESIDENT COMPLAINTS DUE TO THE SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN COSTS AND DECREASE IN QUALITY OF SERVICE.
THE COMMITTEE FEELS IT IS A TIME TO ALLOW OUR RESIDENTS TO VOICE THEIR CONCERNS AND OPINIONS ABOUT WHETHER WE SHOULD FOLLOW THE PATH OF ALL BUT TWO MUNICIPALITIES IN WESTERN NEW YORK IN FORMING A GARBAGE DISTRICT.
THEREFORE, THE TOWN'S REFUSE AND RECYCLING COMMITTEE HAS RECOMMEND THE TOWN HOLD INFORMATION MEETINGS TO ALLOW RESIDENTS TO VOICE THEIR FEEDBACK ON THE ISSUE, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVE THAT NOTICE IS GIVEN THAT THE TOWN REFUSE AND RECYCLING COMMITTEE WILL CONDUCT AN INFORMATIONAL MEETING TO PROVIDE INFORMATION AND SOLICIT INPUT FROM RESIDENTS.
THE MEETING WILL OCCUR ON TUESDAY, OCTOBER 24TH AT 5:30 PM AT THE HAMBURG TOWN HALL S 6,100 SOUTH PARK AVENUE, HAMBURG, NEW YORK 1 4 0 7 5 LOCAL TIME TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC INFORMATION ON THE CREATION OF THE TOWN GARBAGE DISTRICT.
SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MCCALLEY, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MCCM.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGN BY SAYING AYE.
A INTENTIONS HARRY, WHERE IS TOWN HAM PROCEED.
A REQUEST WILLIAM LER TO ZONE A 3.82 ACRE LOT AT 54 89 SOUTHWESTERN BOULEVARD.
SBL NUMBER 180 2 0.09 DASH ONE DASH EIGHT THAT IS A SPLIT ZONE WITH R FOUR GENERAL RESIDENTS MOBILE HOME COURT DISTRICT IN THE BACK AND C TWO GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IN THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY TO ALL C TWO.
AND WHEREAS THE CODE REVIEW COMMITTEE REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND ALTHOUGH THEY HAD CONCERNS, FOUND ENOUGH MERIT IN REZONING OF THIS PROPERTY TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO SEND IT TO THE TOWN BOARD TO BEGIN THE PROCESS NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED.
THE EMERY TOWN BOARD HEREBY ENTERTAINS THIS REZONING REQUEST AND REFERS THE APPLICATION REZONING THE C TWO TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR ITS REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED.
THE EMORY TOWN BOARD WOULD LIKE TO ACT AS LEAD AGENCY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE NEW YORK STATE ENVIRONMENTAL WATER REVIEW ACT AND HEREBY AUTHORIZED THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO PERFORM THE APPROPRIATE MAILINGS AND INCLUDE
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WE HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HO CALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGN BY SAYING AYE.WHEREAS THE TOWN HAMBURG DESIRES TO ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPMENT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT IS SAFE AND SANITARY AND WHEREAS THE PEOPLE COMMUNITY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND NOT-FOR-PROFIT DEVELOPER OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS UNDER CONTRACT TO ACQUIRE THOSE CERTAIN PARCELS OF VACANT LAND LOCATED IN SOUTHWESTERN BOULEVARD.
PARCEL ID NUMBER 180 2 0 5 1 16 PARCEL ID 180 2 0 9 DASH 1 1 1 ROGERS ROAD 180 2 0 5 21 180 2 0 5 DASH ONE DASH 22 180 2 0 5 DASH ONE DASH 23 180 2 DASH FIVE DASH ONE DASH 24 1 5 4 0 2 ROGERS ROAD, 54 72 SOUTHWESTERN BOULEVARD 54 64 SOUTHWESTERN BOULEVARD, 54 86 SOUTHWESTERN BOULEVARD, 54 58 SOUTHWESTERN BOULEVARD AND 53 88 ROGERS ROAD.
AND ALL EXISTING IMPROVEMENTS IN THE TOWN OF BURY ERIE COUNTY IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK.
COLLECTIVELY THE LAND FOR PURPOSE OF DEVELOPING A HOUSING PROJECT FOR PERSONS OF LOW INCOME SAID PROJECT TO CONSIST OF ONE, THE ACQUISITION OF LAND TWO DEVELOPMENT OF APPROXIMATELY 65 UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND RELATED IMPROVEMENTS TO BE KNOWN AS JUNIPER APARTMENTS.
AND FOR THE ACQUISITION AND INSTALLATION THEREIN AND THERE ON OF CERTAIN MACHINERY, EQUIPMENT, FURNITURE, FIXTURES, AND OTHER TANGIBLE PERSONAL PROPERTY.
THE LAND IMPROVEMENTS IN EQUIPMENT ARE COLLECTIVELY REFERRED TO IN THIS RESOLUTION AS THE PROJECT.
AND WHEREAS IN ORDER TO OWN AND DEVELOP THIS PROJECT, PEOPLE HAS FORMED TWO NEW ENTITIES KNOWN AS JUAN ROGERS NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING DEVELOPMENT FUND CORPORATION IN ARTICLE 11, NEW YORK PRIVATE HOUSING FINANCE LAW CORPORATION AND A NEW YORK NOT-FOR-PROFIT CORPORATION AND TWO JUNIPER APARTMENTS, LLCA NEW YORK LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY, WHICH WILL BE CONTROLLED BY PEOPLE IN OR AND AFFILIATE THEREOF.
AND WHEREAS THE HDFC AND THE COMPANY WERE FORMED FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING RESIDENTIAL RENTAL ACCOMMODATIONS PER PERSON AS LOW AND MIDDLE INCOME.
AND WHEREAS THE HDFC WILL ACQUIRE FEE TO THE LAND AS NOMINEE FOR THE COMPANY AND WILL CONVEY ITS EQUITABLE AND BENEFICIAL INTEREST IN THE LAND TO THE COMPANY AND FURTHERANCE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT.
AND WHEREAS THE HDFCS AND THE HAND COMPANY'S PLAN FOR THE USE OF THE LAND CONSTITUTES A HOUSING PROJECT AS THAT TERM IS DEFINED IN THE PRIVATE HOUSING FINANCE LAW OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK.
AND WHEREAS THE HDFC IS A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT FUND COMPANY, AS THE TERM IS DEFINED IN SECTION 5 72 OF THE PHFL AND SECTIONS 5 77 OF THE PHFI AUTHORIZE THIS TOWN BOARD TO EXEMPT THE PROJECT FROM REAL PROPERTY TAXES AND AGREE TO A PAYMENT IN LIEU OF TAXES AGREEMENT WITH THE HDFC AND COMPANY AND WHEREAS THE COMPANY AND THE HDFC ARE WILLING TO ENTER INTO A PILOT AGREEMENT WHEREBY THEY WILL MAKE ANNUAL PAYMENTS IN LIEU OF TAXES TO THE TOWN AS SET FORTH IN THE PILOT AGREEMENT SUBSTANTIALLY THE FORM IS PRESENTED TO THE TOWN BOARD FOR APPROVAL.
A COPY OF WHICH IS ATTACHED NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED WITH THE TOWN HEREBY EXEMPTS THE PROJECT FROM ALL REAL PROPERTY TAXES TO EXTENT AUTHORIZED BY SECTION 5 77 OF THE PHFL FOR A PERIOD OF 15 YEARS.
AND TWO APPROVES THE PILOT AGREEMENT BY AND AMONG THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, ERIE COUNTY, THE DID COMPANY AND THE HDFC AS APPLICABLE SUBSTANTIALLY IN THE FORM ATTACHED AS EXHIBIT A, PROVIDING FOR ANNUAL PAYMENTS AS SET FORTH IN SUCH PILOT AGREEMENT SUBJECT TO ANY MATERIAL REVISIONS AS NOT APPROVED BY THE TOWN SUPERVISOR AND TOWN ATTORNEY ATTORNEY.
AND IT IS FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE SUPERVISOR OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG IS AUTHORIZED TO EXECUTE AND DELIVER THE FOREGOING PILOT AGREEMENT ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN.
AND IT IS FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THIS RESOLUTION SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.
SO WE HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HOPE ON THE QUESTION.
THERE HAVE BEEN SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FINANCIAL IMPACT OF THIS PAYMENT IN LIEU OF TAXES.
AND JUST TO KIND OF REITERATE WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON HERE IS THESE PROJECTS, THIS ONE AND THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION, UM, THESE HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY THE PLANNING BOARD BY THE TOWN BOARD.
THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WORKFORCE HOUSING PROJECTS.
THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT FUNDING THAT HELPS MAKE THESE PROJECTS HAPPEN.
THE APPLICANTS HAVE APPROACHED THE TOWN FOR A PILOT A PAYMENT IN LIEU OF TAXES AND AS THE RESOLUTION, UH, SUGGESTS THAT WOULD GIVE THEM A PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION AND INDICATE AN AMOUNT THAT THEY WOULD GIVE TO THE TOWN OF HAMBURG IN LIEU OF TAXES.
SO, UM, THE FINANCIAL IMPACT, WELL WE DON'T HAVE HARD AND FAST NUMBERS FOR YOU
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ON THAT UNTIL THE PROPERTY WOULD BE BUILT AND THEN ASSESSED AND THEN THE TAXABLE AMOUNT WOULD BE DETERMINED BY OUR ASSESSOR.WHAT WE DO HAVE IS INFORMATION ON OTHER AND SIMILAR PROPERTIES.
SO THE, UH, PROPOSED PILOT IN YEAR ONE WOULD GIVE THE TOWN 16,820 WOULD WOULD BE A TOTAL OF $16,825.
HAS, UH, ANOTHER PROJECT IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, UM, ELM HOUSING CORP.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT PROJECT.
IT IS THE SECTION EIGHT PROJECT, BUT THE ESTIMATED TAX OVERALL TAX TOWN, COUNTY SCHOOL HYDRANT LIGHTS, FIRE PROTECTION, SEWER DISTRICTS, TOWN WIDE WATER, THE TOTAL TAXES WITHOUT ANY EXEMPTIONS AT ALL IS $66,425.
AS SUCH, THE SHARE OF THE GENERAL TOWN TAX, IF THERE WERE NO EXEMPTIONS, WOULD BE ABOUT $18,082, WHICH WOULD BE GOING TO THE TOWN UNDER THIS PILOT IN YEAR ONE.
IT WOULD BE A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS IMPACT TO THE TOWN GENERAL FUND, NO DOUBT WHAT I WOULD PRESENT AS REASON TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
WE LOOK TO, UM, BRING THESE PROJECTS TO THE TOWN FOR SEVERAL REASONS.
NUMBER ONE, THERE'S A NEED FOR SAFE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
NUMBER TWO, A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS ARE WORKFORCE PROJECTS.
THEY BRING FOLKS TO WORK IN OUR, IN OUR RESTAURANTS AND OTHER PLACES OF EMPLOYMENT.
AND NUMBER THREE, AS THESE FOLKS COME TO OUR COMMUNITY, THEY SPEND MONEY, THEY SUPPORT COMMERCE, COMMERCE AND THEY SUPPORT BUSINESS.
SO WHILE THERE MAY BE, UH, A SHORT TERM SAVINGS, UH, BY THE APPLICANT, UM, THERE'S A NUMBER OF BENEFITS THAT COME TO THE TOWN WITH PROJECTS SUCH AS THESE.
IN ADDITION, I WOULD SAY THIS TOWN BOARD HAS TAKEN THE STEP OF INCREASING THE LOW INCOME SENIOR CITIZENS PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION.
WE HAVE WORK TO DO, WE SHOULD RAISE IT HIGHER, BUT WE WANNA DO THAT KNOWING WHAT THE IMPACT WILL BE.
AND AFTER OUR FIRST INCREASE IN THOSE LIMITS, WE'RE BETTER PREPARED TO MAKE ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION, MOST LIKELY IN 2024.
UM, HOWEVER, FOLKS THAT RENT IN APARTMENTS AREN'T ELIGIBLE FOR THOSE, THIS IS A WAY THAT WE AS A TOWN CAN PASS ON.
UH, THOSE SAVINGS, WHICH WE'VE AGREED PREVIOUSLY ARE IMPORTANT TO PASS ON TO, UH, THE SENIOR CITIZENS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO BE HEARD BEFORE WE VOTE ON RESOLUTION ON THE RESOLUTION? ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE A PROPER MOTION AND A SECOND I'LL CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE.
WHEREAS THE TOWN OF PANTRY, THE TOWN DESIRES TO ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPMENT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT IS SAFE AND SANITARY, WHEREAS SOUTHERN TIER ENVIRONMENTS FOR LIVING IS A NOT-FOR-PROFIT.
DEVELOPER OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING INTENDS TO ASSIST IN THE ACQUISITION OF PARCEL OF VACANT LAND LOCATED ON RILEY BOULEVARD AND ALL EXISTING IMPROVEMENTS IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, ERIE COUNTY AND STATE OF NEW YORK FOR THE PURPOSE OF DEVELOPING HOUSING PROJECT FOR VERSIONS OF LOW INCOME SAID PROJECT TO CONSIST OF ONE, THE ACQUISITION OF LAND TWO DEVELOPMENT OF APPROXIMATELY 70 UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND RELATED IMPROVEMENTS TO BE KNOWN AS RILEY BROOK APARTMENTS.
AND FOUR, THE ACQUISITION AND INSTALLATION THEREIN AND THEREON OF CERTAIN MACHINERY, EQUIPMENT, FURNITURE, FIXTURES, AND OTHER TANGIBLE PERSONAL PROPERTY.
THE LAND IMPROVEMENTS AND EQUIPMENT ARE COLLECTIVELY REFERRED TO IN THIS RESOLUTION AS THE PROJECT.
AND WHEREAS IN ORDER TO OWN AND DEVELOP THIS PROJECT, STEL HAS FORMED RILEY BROOK HOUSING DEVELOPMENT FUND COMPANY INCORPORATED.
AND I ARTICLE 11, NEW YORK PRIVATE HOUSING FINANCE LAW CORPORATION, A NEW YORK NOT-FOR-PROFIT CORPORATION, THE HDFC, WHICH HDFC WILL BE THE CO-MANAGING MEMBER OF RILEY BROOK APARTMENTS, LLCA NEW YORK LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY AND WHERE THE HDFC AND THE COMPANY WERE FORMED FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING RESIDENTIAL RENTAL ACCOMMODATIONS FOR PERSONS OF LOW INCOME.
AND WHEREAS THE HDFC WILL ACQUIRE FEE TITLED TO THE LAND IS NOMINE NEED FOR THE COMPANY AND WILL CONVEY ITS EQUITABLE AND BENEFICIAL INTEREST IN THE LAND IN ACCOMPANYING FURTHERANCE OF ITS DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT.
AND WHEREAS THE H DFCS AND THE
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COMPANY'S PLAN FOR THE USE OF THE LAND CONSTITUTES A HOUSING PROJECT IS THAT TERM IS DEFINED IN THE PRIVATE HOUSING FINANCE LAW OF STATE OF NEW YORK.AND WHEREAS THE HDFC AS A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT FUND COMPANY, AS THE TERM IS DEFINED IN SECTION 5 72 OF PHF FILE, SECTION 5 77 OF PHF FILE AUTHORIZES THE TOWN BOARD TO EXEMPT THE PROJECT FROM REAL PROPERTY TAX AND AGREE TO A PAYMENT IN LIEU OF TAXES AGREEMENT WITH THE HDFC AND COMPANY.
AND WHEREAS THE COMPANY AND THE HGFC ARE WILLING TO ENTER INTO A PILOT AGREEMENT WHEREBY THEY WILL MAKE ANNUAL PAYMENTS IN LIEU OF TAXES, THE TOWN AS ASSET FORTH.
AND THE PILOT AGREEMENT SUBSTANTIALLY IN THE FORM IS PRESENTED TO THE TOWN BOARD FOR APPROVAL, THE COPY OF WHICH IS ATTACH.
AND NOW THEREFORE THE RESOLVED DOWN BOARD HEREBY EXEMPTS PROJECT FROM ALL REAL PROPERTY BE SENT AUTHORIZED AND BY SECTION 5 77 OF THE PHFL FOR A PERIOD IN 15 YEARS AND APPROVES THE PILOT AGREEMENT BY AND AMONG THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, ERIE COUNTY, THE COMPANY, THE HDFC AS APPLICABLE SUBSTANTIALLY THE FORM ATTACHED AS EXHIBIT A, PROVIDING FOR ANNUAL PAYMENTS OF SET FORTH AND SUCH PILOT AGREEMENT SUBJECT TO ANY MATERIAL REVISIONS THAT MAY BE APPROVED BY THE TOWN SUPERVISOR AND TOWN ATTORNEY.
AND IT'S FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE SUPERVISOR JOHN HAMBURG IS AUTHORIZED DIRECT EXECUTE AND DELIVER THE FOREGOING PILOT AGREEMENT ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN.
AND IT'S FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THIS RESOLUTION SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
UM, ON THE QUESTION NUMBERS THAT I WAS ABLE TO FIND THAT WOULD BE COMPARABLE TO A PROJECT SUCH AS THIS, UH, I WOULD, UH, CITE THE CLAIRE COURT, UH, APARTMENT COMPLEX, WHICH IS I BELIEVE 72 UNITS.
THE RILEY BROOK PROJECT IS 70 UNITS.
THIS PROPERTY DOES NOT HAVE THE TAX EXEMPTION AS THE PEOPLE INC.
THEIR TOTAL TAXES IS $27,329 AND 64 CENTS.
THE TOWN GENERAL TOWN TAX IS $4,675 AND 79 CENTS.
AND UNDER THE PROPOSED PILOT FROM RILEY BROOK, THIS WOULD ACTUALLY BE AN INCREASE FROM NOW WE'RE NOT EXACTLY COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES HERE, UH, BUT THEY'RE UNITS TO UNITS.
SO, UH, RILEY BROOK WOULD BE PAYING MORE IN TAXES TO THE TOWN OF HAMBURG THAN, UM, THAN CLAIRE COURT.
SO IT SHOWS THAT THE ASSESSMENT WILL PROBABLY COME IN PRETTY CLOSE WITH MINIMAL DIFFERENCE.
WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO BE HEARD BEFORE WE VOTE ON THE RILEY BROOK RESOLUTION? JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THIS VOTE WILL ALSO IMPACT THE AMOUNT THEY PAY AT SCHOOL TAXES, CORRECT? YES.
AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS NOT BEEN CONSULTED AT THIS, CORRECT? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? UH, UNLIKE THE FIRST PROJECT WHERE WE KNOW AND HAVE HAD A LOT OF RELATIONS WITH THE DEVELOPER OR THE, THE MAIN PART, WHICH IS PEOPLE INC.
UM, WITH THIS, YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION THAT I HAD ASKED AT THE LAST MEETING WAS STILL HAS DOES NOT HAVE ANY, UH, PROPERTIES WITHIN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, UH, OR WESTERN NEW YORK FOR THAT MATTER.
THEY ARE OUT OF, OUT OF THE AREA, UM, AGENCY.
SO WHERE I FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THE FIRST RESOLUTION AND A LOT OF THE EXPLANATIONS THAT WERE PROVIDED, UM, I HAVE TO SAY I'VE GOT MORE CONCERNS IN THIS ONE KNOWING THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, UM, SOUTHERN TIER ENVIRONMENTS FOR LIVING, THAT WE DON'T HAVE A TRACK RECORD.
UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT A 15 YEAR TIME HORIZON.
SO IN MY OPINION, UM, YOU KNOW, A TABLING OF THIS TO, TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING, UM, WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, MY, MY RECOMMENDATION, UM, COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUS ONE, UM, I DIDN'T, I BELIEVE THEY HAD OTHER PROPERTIES STRIP NORTH.
I I THINK THE REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE.
ANYBODY HEAR FROM
I SPECIFICALLY CALL SAYING, BUT NOT WITH THE PILOT PROGRAM.
THOSE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE, UM, TIM CROWLEY WITH PARK GROVE, UM, WE ARE PARTNERING WITH STILL ON THIS DEVELOPMENT AND STILL DOES HAVE PROPERTIES.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOCATED IN DUNKIRK, NEW YORK.
UM, I DON'T WORK BEFORE STELLE, BUT THEY DO HAVE PROPERTIES LOCALLY, I KNOW IN CHAU AND AREA TOWN.
IN YOUR OPINION, WOULD THE, UH, GRANTING OF A PILOT RESULT IN AN INFERIOR PROJECT? NOT AT ALL.
THIS IS GONNA BE VERY HIGH QUALITY, UH, HIGH QUALITY FINISHES.
UM, AGAIN, TO YOUR POINT EARLIER, THIS IS FOR PEOPLE AT THE VERY START OF THEIR CAREER AND ALSO AT
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THE, THE TAIL END OF THEIR CAREER.UM, AND IT AFFORDS A, UH, A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE AND TO GET BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, COST OF HOUSING IS CRAZY RIGHT NOW AND, UH, IT'S BEING, IT'S EVEN MORE PROFOUND WITH INTEREST RATES.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S NOT UNCOMMON.
AND I KNOW THAT THIS, THIS PROGRAM, THE ERIE COUNTY PROGRAM HAS BEEN GRANTED TO OTHER, UH, DEVELOPERS.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S
UM, SO, UH, IT, IT'LL NOT IMPACT THE QUALITY OF THIS, OF THIS PROJECT.
SO WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A PROJECT THAT'S APPROVED AND, AND MOVING FORWARD, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS PROJECT IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR AT LEAST 15 YEARS, LIKELY MORE.
UM, MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS, UH, TABLING, THERE'S, THERE'S BEEN TALK ABOUT TABLING, THERE'S BEEN NO FORMAL MOTION TO TABLE THIS RESOLUTION, UH, BUT WOULD BE THE IMPACT OF TABLING THIS RESOLUTION AT TONIGHT'S MEETING? I THINK IT WOULD IMPACT TIMING OF GETTING THE PRODUCT UNDERWAY.
AND WE, WE HAVE A TARGET OF TRYING TO GET IN THE GROUND IN DECEMBER.
UM, AND THE, THE ABILITY TO HAVE THIS BUTTONED UP WOULD BE GREAT AND IMPORTANT, UH, BECAUSE IT, APRIL, WE LOOK FORWARD WITH FINANCING.
UH, ONE OF THE KEY THINGS THAT OUR LENDERS AND CUSTOMERS AND FINANCEERS LOOK AT ARE, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS PROJECT, HAVE A PILOT.
SO, UM, WE WANNA GET THIS, WE WANNA GET IN THE GROUND AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
IT'S AN IMPORTANT PROJECT FOR THE COMMUNITY AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S IT'S MUCH NEEDED.
DO YOU FEEL THE ABSENCE OF A PILOT WOULD PREVENT THE PROJECT FROM MOVING FORWARD? I THINK IT WOULD AT THIS POINT.
WE, WE'VE HAD CONSTRUCTION COSTS INCREASE SINCE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, OVER A MILLION DOLLARS, A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS THAT JUST INTEREST RATES HAVE GONE UP 50, 60 BASIS POINTS.
YOU KNOW, WE, UNLIKE A MARKET MARKET RATE PROJECT, WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY WITH THIS PROGRAM TO KEEP CREASING RENTS.
YOU KNOW, OUR OPERATING BUDGET STAYS RELATIVELY STABLE.
WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY IN THIS PROGRAM IN NEW YORK STATE TO SAY, OKAY, COSTS HAVE GONE UP, WE'RE GONNA START INCREASING REST.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE AGREEING TO WITH THE STATE IS KEEPING IT AFFORDABLE FOR 30 YEAR COMPLIANCE PERIODS.
CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH THE 5% ESCALATION? THE, THE, THE UNDER ERIE COUNTY, I BELIEVE IS THE TYPE A PROGRAM WHERE 60% OF THE UNITS ARE AT 60% OR BELOW A MI, AND IT'S BASED ON 5% OF NOI AND THEN IT ESCALATES AT 3% EVERY YEAR.
I THINK THE PREVIOUS, THE PREVIOUS, UH, APPLICANT, UM, WITH PEOPLE, AND THEY HAD A CERTAIN, I THINK IT WAS MAYBE 50% AT 50%, AT 50% A MI, AND THEY WERE AT 3% NOI WITH A 3% INCREASE EVERY YEAR.
SO OURS IS A LITTLE BIT IN TERMS OF THE, THE, THE PAYMENT WITH TAXES IS GONNA BE MUCH HIGHER VERSUS THE PREVIOUS APPLICANT AS, AS YOU POINTED OUT.
SO WHY WOULD YOU WANT A PROJECT LIKE THIS? IF THE SUPERVISOR WAS CORRECT, THEN IT'S GOING TO ACTUALLY COST YOU MORE IN TAXES TO YOUR FIRST YEAR.
UM, ASSESSMENTS CAN GO UP OR DOWN EVERY YEAR.
UM, THIS WITH OUR FINANCING PROGRAM, TYPICALLY WE LOCK IN MORTGAGES AT 30 YEAR FIXED RATES.
AND WHEN YOU HAVE 15 YEAR, 15 YEAR PREDICTABILITY, TAXES PROVIDES A MUCH MORE EASIER AND STABLE WAY TO MANAGE AND OPERATE THE PROPERTY.
SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR WITH A PROPER SECOND HEARING, NO OTHER MOTIONS.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A RESOLUTION, UM, REGARDING, UH, A PAF IN THE TOWN CLERK'S OFFICE.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER APPROVE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
OPPOSED? S CARRIED RESOLVE OF THE HENRY TOWN BOARD IS HEREBY APPROVE THE PERSONAL ACTION FORMATS FOLLOWS.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER COUNTY IN FAVOR.
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SENTENCE CARRIED.DO WE HAVE A RESOLUTION, UH, ALLOWING FOR, UH, THE MEMBERSHIP, A MEMBERSHIP REQUEST FOR THE LAKE SHE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY INCORPORATED.
ALL FAVOR, PLEASE SIGN BY SAYING AYE.
THE HANFORD TOWN BOARD DOES APPROVE THE MEMBERSHIP OF DAVID C. WILSON OF ONE 13 DELA DRIVE, LACKAWANNA, NEW YORK.
THE LAKE SHORE VOLUNTEER BY COMPANY.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER FERRELL.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGN BY SAYING AYE.
THE RESULT THAT THE TOWN BOARD AUDITED CASH DISBURSEMENT IS DATED SEPTEMBER 25TH, 2023 FOR A TOTAL CASH DISBURSEMENT SUBMITTED FOR AUDIT OF $2,267,518 AND 14 CENTS.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CONLEY.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THIS NOW BRINGS US TO OUR PUBLIC EXPRESSION PORTION OF THE MEETING.
AGAIN, JUST TO REITERATE THE, UH, THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT HERE.
WE ASK THAT YOU PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM SO THAT WE CAN HEAR YOU, AND SO THAT THE FOLKS AT HOME CAN HEAR YOU.
PLEASE LIMIT YOUR REMARKS TO THREE MINUTES.
WE DO HAVE A SIGN UP SHEET, AND I'LL BE, IF YOU HAVEN'T SIGNED UP, YOU CAN COME UP TO THE TABLE HERE AND SIGNED UP.
WE HAVE FOUR PEOPLE SO FAR THAT I WILL BE RECOGNIZING TO GIVE COMMENTS.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO, UH, JUST REMIND FOLKS THAT YOUR TIME AT THE PODIUM IS NON-TRANSFERRABLE.
MR. MAHONEY, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, I WOULD INVITE YOU TO THE FRONT OF THE ROOM TO PLEASE ADD YOUR NAME TO THE SIGN IN SHEET.
I WILL FIRST RECOGNIZE FRANCINE GEIER.
I'M HERE TO WAKE THESE KIDS UP.
I LIVE NEXT DOOR TO, UH, DOI DOUGH, AKA COWBOY ON THE LAKE.
I LIVE PROBABLY EQUAL DISTANCE BETWEEN THERE AND THE PROPOSED ALCHEMY SITES.
I'M HERE TO ASK ABOUT, UM, NOISE ORDINANCE, REGULATIONS, PERHAPS GETTING THOSE SHORTENED UP ON WEEKDAYS, HAVING MEASURABLE DECIBEL LEVELS, UM, BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT IT'S LIKE INSIDE OF MY HOUSE AT 10:45 PM GUYS LIKE THAT YOU REPORT TO THAT ABOUT THE TOWN HALL TONIGHT.
IT'S PROBABLY LOUDER THAN ANY OTHER YEAR.
I'VE LIVED THERE MY WHOLE LIFE.
SO I HAVE A VERY DEEP ROOTS KNOWING WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE, DOING MY HOMEWORK REPORTS TO THE DOCK OF THE BAY MUSIC.
UM, SO PROPOSING AN ADDITIONAL LIVE MUSIC VENUE EQUID DISTANCE FROM ME, FROM, UH, COWBOY ON THE LAKE WITHOUT HAVING EITHER SHORTENED HOURS OF OPERATION, EDUCATING OFFICERS, WHATEVER ON WHAT IT MEANS TO BE DISTURBING, NOT JUST QUIET AT 11.
UM, AND ASKING FOR, AGAIN, MEASURABLE DECIBEL LEVELS SO WE CAN ENFORCE IT ON THAT IMMIGRATION SONG.
UM, LET'S PLAY IT ONE MORE TIME.
UM, THIS, UM, SO THIS IS TILL 11:00 PM ON A TUESDAY NIGHT, 11:00 PM ON A WEDNESDAY AT 11:00 PM ON A THURSDAY NIGHT, 11:00 PM ON A MONDAY NIGHTS FRIDAY.
SATURDAY, SUNDAY, SEVEN NIGHTS A WEEK.
THEY CAN HAVE MUSIC SEVEN NIGHTS A WEEK.
THEY CAN HAVE IT AS LOUD AS THIS ALL AS THEIR, THEY HAVE A BAND BOOK TOMORROW.
THEY HAVE TWO MORE THIS WEEKEND.
UM, I KNOW I HAVE, I HAVE PERSONALLY CONTACTED THE RESTAURANT TO ASK THEM TO TURN IT DOWN.
IT DOESN'T SEEM THAT LIKE THEY'RE TRAINING EITHER THEIR STAFF ON HOW TO DEAL WITH THESE LIVE BANDS.
UM, BUT I WAS VERY NICE AND SPECIAL.
I SAID, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE.
SO I'M HERE IN FRONT OF YOU ASKING IF FOR EVERYBODY ALL OVER, BECAUSE I KNOW THE, UM, AVANTI MANCHIN PEOPLE, THE RUSH CREEK, AL HOUSE PEOPLE, THE TAYLOR ROAD PEOPLE ARE ALL, WE'RE ALL IN COMMUNICATION WITH THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE SAME FEELINGS THAT WE DO.
AND WE WILL BE HERE EVERY MONTH TO, UM, REPRESENT THAT.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO HANG ON WHAT HE HAD SAID ABOUT,
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UM, UH, EDUCATING OUR AMAZING HAVER POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THEY ARE AMAZING AND THEY'RE VERY RESPONSIVE TO ALL OF OUR NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY.ALL OF MY NEEDS, I'VE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH THEM WITH.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND, THOUGH, THAT WHEN THE NEIGHBORS DO CALL, UM, TO EXPRESS THINGS ABOUT BEFORE 11 O'CLOCK, THAT IT'S UNREASONABLE.
I THINK THAT THAT'S A DIFFICULT JUDGMENT FOR THESE FOUR POLICE OFFICERS FOR UNFORTUNATELY.
HOW DO THEY, YOU KNOW, CONVEY THAT TO AS THEY RESPOND? BECAUSE TRULY THE NOISE ORDINANCE READS THAT EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT 11 TO CLOCK YET, THAT THE CREATION OF ANY UNNECESSARY OR UNREASONABLY LOUD OR DISTURBING NOISE IS PROHIBITED AS A PUBLIC NUISANCE.
SO UNREASONABLY LOUD IS KIND OF WHAT NIKKI JUST PLAYED ON HER CELL PHONE, RIGHT? SO WITHOUT DECIBEL LEVELS, I RESPECTFULLY SAY THAT THE POLICE OFFICERS, WHEN I CALLED THIS PAST WEEKEND, IT WAS ABOUT 10:00 PM AND IT WAS LIKE THAT.
AND MY HOUSE AS WELL, I LIVED VERY CLOSE TO NIKKI.
AND, UM, AS ALWAYS, VERY RESPONSIVE.
THE POLICE OFFICER SAID, WE'LL, WE'LL BE THERE, BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT NOISE OR AN ORDINANCE DOESN'T KICK IN UNTIL 11.
AND I SAID, YES, I KNOW THAT IT'S BEFORE 11 AND IT'S UNREASONABLE.
SO UNDERSTANDING THAT, LIKE IT'S ABOUT EDUCATION, RIGHT? LIKE, YEAH.
IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT BEFORE ALL THAT ENDS THAT WE COULD RUN AROUND THIS MAKE UNREASONABLY UNACCEPTABLE NOISE DISTURBANCES.
IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT JUST BECAUSE THERE'S 11 NOT CUTOFF DOES NOT HAVE A FREE FOR ALL BEFORE THAT TIME.
AND THE, THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURG IN TWO, IN 1998, THEY, THEY EXPERIENCED SIMILAR CHALLENGES WITH THEIR NOISE ORDINANCE AND THEY ACTUALLY UPDATED THEIRS AT THAT TIME TO REALLY JUST DEFINITIVELY EXPRESS WHAT REASONABLE AND, AND DISTURBING REALLY MEANS.
THEY DID NOT PUT DECIMAL LEVELS IN THEIR CODE, BUT IT IS MORE DEFINITIVE AND IT'S VERY DETAILED.
AND TO NIKKI'S OTHER POINT ABOUT THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS, LIKE WE AREN'T HAMBURG'S BEEN IN EXISTENCE SINCE THE NINE, 18 HUNDREDS.
I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE TOWN, UM, OF HAMBURG WAS CREATED OR BUILT, BUT NOISE PROBLEMS HAVE BEEN HISTORICALLY A PROBLEM AND HAS ALWAYS BEEN SHUNNED.
THERE'S CONTINUED PROBLEMS AT THE AVANTI MANOR.
DOESN'T MATTER HOW FAR AWAY SOMETHING IS, IT'S STILL DISRUPTIVE TO THE RESIDENTS.
THERE'S THE AVANTI MANOR, THERE'S THE ARMOR A THERE'S A HISTORY ON RIVER ROAD WITH THE DOCK, THE BAY AND THE BAY BEACH CLUB AND ALL THAT HISTORY.
AND WHEN LAGO MOVED IN, YEAH, THEY'RE PEACEFULLY THERE NOW, BUT THEIR ONE GUITAR BAND IS LOCATED VERY FAR FROM THE WHERE THE RESTAURANT AND WHERE THE RESIDENTS ARE.
THERE'S A REASON THEY LOCATED THAT MAN IN THAT SPOT OR THAT MUSICIAN, I SHOULD SAY.
I APOLOGIZE ON TAYLOR ROAD, THE LEGACY AT 18 MILE CREEK, THOSE RESIDENTS, ARE THEY, THEY HAVE, I BELIEVE, I COULD BE WRONG, BUT I DO RECALL THAT A CONSTELLATION WAS GIVEN TO THEM AND IT, THE 10:00 PM CUT OUT FOR THOSE, UM, WEDDING VENUES THAT ARE ON TAYLOR ROAD, OR AT LEAST THE TOWN BUILDING ON TAYLOR ROAD DOES HAVE A 10 O'CLOCK CUTOUT FOR THEIR PARTIES.
SO THERE ARE CONCESSIONS MADE FOR NOISE.
THERE ARE DAYS OF THE WEEK THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED AS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS THAT.
I THINK IT'S ABOUT, JUST BECAUSE IT'S AN 11 O'CLOCK CUTOUT WITH IT IS REALLY UNREASONABLE BASED ON OUR CURRENT TIME, BUT IT STILL DOESN'T MEAN THAT BEFORE 11 O'CLOCK IT'S FREE FOR ALL.
IT'S NOT A FREE FOR ALL FOR ANYBODY, IT'S JUST SAYING ANYTHING UNREASONABLY.
THE NIGHT WE CALLED, THERE WERE FIVE CARS IN THEIR PARKING LOT THAT NIGHT OF THAT RECORDING, THERE WERE FIVE CARDS.
SO IT'S ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ADJUSTING TO YOUR LEVEL OF ME AS WELL.
NOT JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE A BAND, YOU HAVE TO GET US ALL REGARDLESS IF YOU'RE PLAYING FIVE OR A HUNDRED PEOPLE, THERE'S REASONABLE CONSIDERATIONS THAT NEED TO BE DONE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALWAYS LISTENING TO ME.
I'M JUST GLAD TO SEE A REAL COP IN THE ROOM INSTEAD OF HIS PO
BUT, UM, I, I SEE ON HERE THAT THE AMBER CLOCK TOWER PROJECT CLOSED.
I THANK YOU BECAUSE I LOVE THAT CLOCK.
I ALSO WANNA, UM, YOU KNOW, ADDRESS, UH, ANNISE AND JOSH WHO ARE AWESOME.
WHENEVER WE CALL FOR QUESTIONS, THEY GET BACK RIGHT AWAY.
THEY SHOULD BE HONORED AND APPLAUDED, BUT THAT COULD BE FOR ANOTHER TIME.
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COULD GET A PLAQUE OR SOMETHINGUM, YOU KNOW, I SEE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF FORWARD THINKING AND, AND YOU, YOU, YOU, THIS BOARD IS IN THE PRESENT AND THEY'RE IN, AND I SEE THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MULTI-USE PATH AND ALL THAT I SAW, UH, PREVIOUS IN THIS MEETING.
UM, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH BIKE PATHS AND ALL THAT AND TRYING TO CHANGE, YOU KNOW, HOW THIS TOWN IS AND THE FORWARD THINKING.
IT'S A, IT IS A, IT IS A NEW TIME AND IT'S A NEW PLACE, A NEW TIME, A NEW PLACE.
WE NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT THE NOISE ORDINANCE IN THIS TOWN.
IT PROBABLY HASN'T BEEN REVAMPED SINCE 1820 WHEN AMBER WAS DISCOVERED.
I DON'T KNOW, BUT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AND WE'RE GONNA REALLY FOCUS ON THAT.
AND I HOPE THAT YOU GUYS FOCUS AND HELP US WITH THIS BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM.
AND, AND I THINK IT'S A PROBLEM FOR A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING TO SO ON, BECAUSE WE'RE COMING AT YOU FOR THIS AND WE'RE GONNA HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN COME.
UM, IT WROTE, I JUST WANTED TO ECHO THE SAME SENTIMENT, SENTIMENTS THAT MY NEIGHBORS ON HOOVER HAD THE NEED FOR AN UPDATED NOR NOISE ORDINANCE WITH DEATH BOWL LEVELS AND A 10 O'CLOCK CUTOFF POTENTIALLY.
UM, I ALSO HAVE A VIDEO NOT BEING SONG FROM MY LIVING ROOM IS WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE.
UH, I, I, I DON'T DUNNO IF ANYONE CAN IDENTIFY THAT ONE.
UM, SIMILAR, UH, CONCERNS, ESPECIALLY WITH COWBOY AT THE LAKE, BUT ALSO POTENTIALLY WITHOUT ME MOVING FORWARD, IT, THE, THE NOISE LEVELS CAN BE REALLY ONEROUS THERE.
AND THAT WAS KIND OF SURPRISING THAT THE ATTORNEY FROM CHEMY, NOT TO BRING 'EM UP NECESSARILY, BUT THOUGHT THAT IT MIGHT BE UNFAIR TO TAKE ACOUSTICAL LEVELS WITHOUT THAT.
IF THAT WAS YOUR BASELINE, WHO COULD EVER POSSIBLY LIVE THERE? IT'S ALREADY PRETTY OBVIOUSLY RIDICULOUS.
AND NOW WE'RE GONNA PUT ANOTHER SINGLE ESTABLISHMENT RIGHT THERE.
AND, UM, I WILL NEVER LIVE THERE OR RAISE A KID THERE IF THAT WERE WHAT I WERE DEALING WITH.
UM, I WAS UP, UH, A FEW WEEKS AGO LISTENING TO THE BAND AT LIKE 11 O'CLOCK ON A TUESDAY, AND THEY DID WRAP UP BY 11 O'CLOCK, BUT THEY GOT INTO A FIGHT WITH BARTENDERS AT AROUND 10 15.
AND THERE WERE, AGAIN, LIKE FOUR CARS IN THE PARKING LOT.
AND THE BARTENDERS WERE ASKING THEM TO STOP.
THEY COULD NOT CONTROL THE BAND.
THE MANAGER COULD NOT CONTROL THE BAND.
THE BAND TURNED THEIR AMPS ALL THE WAY UP.
THEY DID A COVER OF SEPTEMBER BY EARTH, WIND AND FIRE.
BUT INSTEAD OF SEEING, THEY JUST WENT B-B-B-B-B FOR ABOUT HALF AN HOUR WITHOUT ANY SORT OF NOISE ORDINANCE TO REALLY GIVE US TEETH TO COMPLAIN.
IN SITUATIONS LIKE THAT, ALL WE HAVE IS THE BEST INTENTIONS OF THE MANAGEMENT.
OBVIOUSLY THE MANAGEMENT IS NOT ALL THAT CAPABLE OVER THERE, AND I DON'T HAVE TO RELY ON MANAGERS TO FIGHT WITH BANDS OR TO FIGHT WITH WEDDING GUESTS TO IMPROVE OUR QUALITY.
BUT I'D JUST LIKE THERE TO BE A SENSIBLE LAW IN PLACE FOR IT.
MS. REESE, MY NAME IS BARB REESE.
AS MOST OF YOU REMEMBER, MY DAUGHTER, CASEY OLDER, WAS KILLED 36 DAYS AGO.
ON AUGUST 20TH OF THIS YEAR, THE CORNER OF SCRANTON AND SOUTH PARK.
AT THE LAST TOWN HALL MEETING ON NINE 11, SUPERINTENDENT TOLD ME AND MY FAMILY THAT THE FIRST STEP WOULD BE TO SCHEDULE A TRAFFIC AUDIT.
AND AT THAT TIME IT MADE SENSE.
SINCE THAT MEETING, I'VE EDUCATED MYSELF ON WHAT A TRAFFIC AUDIT IS AND WHILE DECIDING IF THERE SHOULD BE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THAT CORNER OR ROUNDABOUT, OR WHETHER SCRANTON ROAD SHOULD BE REDESIGNED ENTIRELY, IS A GOOD AND WELL UNNECESSARY I'M SURE, BUT THIS IS NOT WHAT I'M ASKING FOR.
IN FURTHER RESEARCH ON THE DOT WEBSITE, I FOUND THAT THERE IS ANOTHER AUDIT THAT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE.
IT'S CALLED THE ROAD SAFETY AUDIT, KNOWN AS AN RSA FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT KNOW, AN RSA IS A FORMAL SAFETY PERFORMANCE EXAM, IN THIS CASE FOR AN EXISTING ROAD BY AN INDEPENDENT MULTI-DISCIPLINARY TEAM.
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REPORT ON POTENTIAL ROAD SAFETY ISSUES AND IDENTIFIES OPPORTUNITIES FOR IMPROVEMENT ON ROAD SAFETY FOR ALL ROAD USERS.THE GOAL OF AN RSA IS TO DETERMINE WHAT ELEMENTS OF THE ROAD MAY PRESENT A SAFETY CONCERN, TO WHAT EXTENT AND TO WHICH ROAD USERS AND UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES.
ALSO, WHAT OPPORTUNITIES EXIST TO ELIMINATE, ELIMINATE AND MITIGATE IDENTIFIED SAFETY CONCERNS.
THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE THAT I FOUND BETWEEN THE ROAD SAFETY AUDIT AND A TRADITIONAL TRAFFIC AUDIT IS THAT THE SAFETY AUDIT TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION ALL ROAD USERS, VEHICLES, CYCLISTS, AND PEDESTRIANS, WHERE A TRADITIONAL AUDIT ONLY DEALS WITH TRAFFIC ISSUES.
ALSO, AN A AN RSA GENERATES A FORMAL REPORT, WHICH ALSO REQUIRES A FORMAL RESPONSE REPORT, WHICH A TRAFFIC AUDIT OFTEN DOES NOT REQUIRE EITHER ONE.
I ALSO FOUND OTHER DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE TWO AS WELL.
ALL OF THIS INFORMATION AND MUCH MORE IS AVAILABLE ON THE NEW YORK DOT WEBSITE.
I AM ASKING THAT YOU REVIEW THIS INFORMATION AND CONSIDER THE SAFETY AUDIT INSTEAD AS IT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE AND IT WILL ACCOMPLISH BOTH EFFORTS OF THE TRAFFIC AUDIT AND THE SAFETY AUDIT.
IT ALSO INCLUDES THE USE OF ALL DRIVERS AND USERS OF THE ROAD.
I ALSO MAY NOT BE ABLE TO COME TO EVERY BOARD MEETING IF YOU HAVE TWO OF THEM A MONTH DUE TO MY WORK SCHEDULE, BUT I WILL CONTINUE TO COME TO AT LEAST ONE EVERY MONTH AND I WILL NOT REST AND I WILL NOT GO AWAY UNTIL THERE ARE SIDEWALKS OR WHITE PADS ON ROUTE 62.
SO I ASK WITH A GRIEVING HEART THAT YOU PLEASE HAVE.
THAT AND CASEY OLDER, BECAUSE YOU ALREADY KNOW SHE'S A DAUGHTER TO ME AS WELL.
I'VE KNOWN HER SINCE SHE WAS A CHILD.
UM, A LOT OF THINGS COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED THAT NIGHT.
YEAH, SHE WAS COMING HOME FROM WORK ON HER SCOOTER.
SHE ACTUALLY STOPPED AT THE INTERSECTION, WAS HIT BY A CAR THAT COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED IF THERE WAS A TRAFFIC LIGHT THERE, STOPPING PEOPLE FROM MAKING THAT TURN.
A, A TRAFFIC LIGHT WITH A NO TURN RED, FORCING PEOPLE TO STOP, PAY ATTENTION TO LOOK AROUND.
UM, IT CERTAINLY WISH NEVER HAPPENED, BUT OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT, WE CAN, WE CAN'T GO BACK.
BUT HOPEFULLY THAT THE EFFORTS OF YOUR HELP, WE CAN PREVENT ANYONE ELSE FROM GOING THROUGH THE SAME THING.
FIRST I WANNA SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR RECOGNIZING, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, THE GARBAGE SITUATION.
YOU'RE HAVING A MEETING, WOULD YOU SCHEDULE 10 24? YES.
AND, UH, I APPRECIATE THAT IS PLEASE COME TO THE, COME TO THE PODIUM.
SO, OH, AND I KNOW YOU HAVE A COMMITTEE, UM, STARTED, WHICH I REALLY APPRECIATE ALSO, UM, ONE THING THEY'RE QUESTIONING THOUGH, WHETHER IT'S GONNA BE, UH, TOWN REFERENDUM TO JOIN INTO A GARBAGE DISTRICT OR IS IT JUST GONNA BE A NEGOTIATIONS TO TRY AND GET FEES LOWERED BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE ARE QUALIFIED.
I'M GETTING REPORTS, PEOPLE ARE CALLING THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE NOT QUALIFIED.
THEY'RE NOT SENIORS, THEY'RE NOT VETS, THEY'RE NOT ASSOCIATED WITH DIFFERENT GROUPS.
THEY JUST DIDN'T LOSE THEIR JOB.
SO I THINK THE NEGOTIATIONS ARE IMPORTANT.
THE OTHER ISSUE IS, UM, THE TOWN CLOCK.
UH, I, AND I APPRECIATE READING IN THE AGENDA.
WERE THERE ANY OTHER FUNDS INVOLVED IN THAT DEVELOPMENT OR IN THAT, UM, CONSTRUCTION OF THE, UH, REPAIRS OVER THERE? BECAUSE I BELIEVE THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT AREAS.
THERE'S STATE TOWN AND SOME PRIVATE AREAS THERE, AND I WAS JUST CURIOUS OF WHAT OTHER FUNDS, IF NOT FROM FEMA FOR A TRIBUTE TO THAT.
AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTIONS WERE, SOME OF 'EM HAD WERE WHO'S GONNA MAINTAIN THAT AREA? IS IT GONNA BE A MUTUAL AGREEMENT WITH THE TOWN OR THE STATE OR WHATEVER? SO THAT WAS A
ALSO THE QUESTION OF, UH, THE AMERICAN RESCUE FUNDS.
I NOTICED YOU, YOU'VE UH, MENTIONED SOME OF THEM AND YOU'VE USED THEM.
UM, THEY WANTED TO KNOW HOW MUCH WERE LEFT, IF THERE, IF ANY, AND WHAT, WHAT THEY WOULD BEING USED FOR IF WE COULD ITEMIZE IT
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IN SOME WAY.UM, AND THEN I UNDERSTAND THAT THE BUDGET IS SUPPOSED TO BE COMING OUT AT THE END OF THE MONTH, BUT YOU HAVE A DATE FOR THE BUDGET.
IS THAT A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE 10 23 MEETING? PUBLIC HEARING? THAT'LL BE A PUBLIC HEARING, YEAH.
I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T AND ONE MORE THING THAT I JUST LEARNED JUST TODAY AS I WAS WALKING IN, UM, PILOT VERSUS AN IDA AND YOU EXPLAIN TO THE COMMUNITY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FAIR HOUSING PILOT AND WHAT AN IDA WOULD BE.
I THINK THERE'S A CERTAIN QUALIFICATION WITH THE FAIR HOUSING AND I'M JUST NOT SCHOOLED ON THERE.
THAT'S THE LAST NAME I HAVE ON THIS LIST HERE.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE, OH, I'M SORRY, MARGARET.
AND I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE WE'D ALL LIKE TO LIVE HEALTHY PROTECTIVE LIVES.
AND I AGREE THAT A SIDEWALK SHOULD BE A PRETTY NORMAL THING THAT A COMMUNITY CAN EXPECT.
AND I ALSO AM VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE SIDEWALK ON ROUTE 62, WHICH IS A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE, BUT ON HOOVER ROAD, UM, WE'D ALSO LIKE A SIDEWALK, ESPECIALLY WITH UM, A A POSSIBLY 175 MORE PEOPLE, UM, JOINING OUR SMALL TIGHT LITTLE AREA.
AND WE ARE VERY COMPACTED HOOVER BEACH BEACH.
UM, SO I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO EMPHASIZE HOW STRESSFUL IT HAS BEEN WITH THE COWBOY OPENING.
I WAS HERE DURING THE DOCK, I'M SIX HOUSES AND A LOT AWAY, AND IT WAS VERY TOLERABLE.
BUT WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW IS SHOCKING.
I FINALLY CALLED ON SATURDAY BECAUSE SIMILAR TO THIS, I'M NOT AS TECHNOLOGICALLY SAVVY.
I CALLED AND SOMEONE ELSE HAD CALLED JUST BEFORE ME.
WE COME HERE TOGETHER, BUT IT'S NOT AS IF WE'RE, UH, DRINKING BEERS OR HAVING COFFEE EVERY DAY.
I AM EXTREMELY FEARFUL FOR OUR LITTLE SPOT BECAUSE IF COWBOY IS THAT LOUD AND I'M SIX HOUSES AWAY AND NOW NEXT TO ME THREE FEET AWAY ARE 175 PEOPLE PARTYING AND THEY HAVE MUSIC AND THEY HAVE MUSIC, I CAN HEAR THAT MUSIC WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, THEY'RE GONNA COMPETE.
SO I REALLY FEEL LIKE WE'RE BEING DRIVEN RIGHT OUT OF THERE IS THIS, I'M IN DOMAIN SITUATION.
IT'S VERY, VERY CONCERNING AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE DOG LOVERS.
I HAVE A LOVELY 90 POUND RESCUE.
I'M NOT EVEN GONNA BE ABLE TO WALK.
HE, I TAKE HIM OUT AND HE'LL TAKE THE LEASH IN HIS HAND AND PULL ME BACK HOME.
WHERE AM I? I CAN'T EVEN TAKE MY DOG OUT.
SO WE GO IN FRONT OF CHEMY AND I THINK, WOW, THESE DAYS ARE LIMITED.
I MEAN IT, I FEEL SORRY FOR THE DOG AND MY NEIGHBORS AND MYSELF.
WE DO SHARE OUR BEACH, BUT THERE HAS TO BE DONE SOMETHING DONE ABOUT SAFETY INVOICE.
ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO BE HEARD? WE GOT A BUNCH OF STUDENTS THAT NEED YOUR SIGNATURES.
YEAH, WE USUALLY TAKE CARE OF THAT AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE MEETING.
UM, ANYBODY ELSE? ALRIGHT, WE WILL OPEN IT UP TO REPORTS FROM DEPARTMENT HEADS, IT,
ENGINEERING ALWAYS SAID SOMETHING.
THE UH, I'LL LET YOU KNOW THAT I HAD A MEETING WITH THE DDA AND 2D EC OFFICIALS REGARDING
UH, THE UDA CAME ON SITE AND THEY WANTED TO GO THROUGH STEP BY STEP ALL OF THE ITEMS LISTED IN THAT CONSENT ORDER AND THE TIMELINE.
UM, BUT THEY WERE, THEY SPENT THE DAY, UH, IN THE, MY OFFICE GOING THROUGH A LOT OF DATA AND THEY OFFERED FIELD WORK AND INSPECTED PUMP STATIONS AND SEMANS AND BI.
UH, THERE WERE DC WAS ESPECIALLY HAPPY TO SEE HOW FAR AHEAD OF SCHEDULE WE ARE.
WE WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE DOING FLOW MONITORING, INCLUDING THE PROJECT OF 2023.
SO NEXT YEAR, THIS 24TH SPRING, SPRING 24TH IS WHEN WE'RE SCHEDULING OUR FLOW MONITORING AND HOPEFULLY INCLUDING THAT
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ENGINEERING CONSULT.UH, JUST A QUICK UPDATE ON THE LED PROJECT, OUR FINAL STEP, WHICH WAS OUR INSPECTION BY NATIONAL GREATEST SCHEDULED FOR THIS WEEK.
SO ONCE WE PASS THAT, WE ARE GONNA BE READY TO CLOSE OUT THIS PROJECT.
UM, WE HAD OUR SANTA HERITAGE FESTIVAL LAST THURSDAY.
UM, WE HAD 20 TO 80 UP AND DANCING, WHICH WAS FANTASTIC.
UM, THIS WEDNESDAY WE HAVE OUR ADULT VOLUNTEER THANK YOU PICNIC AT TAYLOR ROAD.
UM, FRIDAY WE HAVE OUR END OF SUMMER FAMILY MOVIE NIGHT AT THE, UM, HAMBURG SENIOR COMMUNITY CENTER.
AND WE HAVE A VACCINE CLINIC AT THE CENTER ON OCTOBER 4TH FROM 10 TO 12.
AND ALSO OUR REC ON THE GO WAS SO POPULAR THIS SUMMER.
WE ACTUALLY STARTED A SENIOR REC ON THE GO AND OUR FIRST FIELD TRIP WILL BE TO THE GOAL AGAIN.
UM, WE'VE HEARD PLENTY FROM PLANNING TODAY.
DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? NOT PARTICULARLY, NO.
I DON'T THINK I MISSED ANYBODY ELSE OVER THERE.
UM, I WAS ALSO ABLE TO ATTEND THE HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH FESTIVAL.
UH, JILL, FANTASTIC JOB BY YOU AND YOUR STAFF.
I WAS HAPPY TO SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE ATTENDED.
UM, ALSO WANTED TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT WE ARE HAVING THE, ACTUALLY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVING A TRUNK OR TREAT.
I AM VERY FORTUNATE TO BE CO-SPONSORING IT WITH LEGISLATOR JOHN GILMORE.
THIS YEAR WE HAVE MOVED THE PARTY TO THE FAIRGROUNDS.
IT'S GOING TO BE OCTOBER 7TH FROM FIVE 30 TO 7 30 20 SEVENTH.
NOT THAT OCTOBER 27TH FROM FIVE 30 TO SEVEN 30.
UH, IF YOU KNOW ANY BUSINESSES OR ORGANIZATIONS LOCATED IN HAMBURG THAT WANNA SIGN UP, WE'VE GOT FORMS ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
IF YOU WANNA ATTEND, BRING YOUR CHILDREN SIGN UP.
WE'VE GOT FORMS ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND LOOKING FORWARD TO A GREAT EVENT.
UM, AND IN REGARDS TO BOB'S, UH, TWO QUESTIONS THAT I THINK I'VE, I CAN ANSWER, UM, ON THE, UM, GARBAGE RECYCLING, UH, THAT AT THAT INFORMATIONAL MEETING, WE WILL LAY OUT ALL THE POTENTIAL OPTIONS AND START TO GET FEEDBACK, UH, FROM THE PUBLIC.
SO WE'LL HAVE EVERYTHING SET BY THEIR LEGALS WORKING ON, UH, FINALIZING, UH, JUST SO WE HAVE ALL THE FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS READY TO GO BY THEN.
UM, AND IN TERMS OF THE CLOCK TOWER, UM, WE CAN, WE, WE'LL, WE WILL, NOW THAT IT'S CLOSED, HAVE A, A BREAKDOWN OF THE FINAL EXPENSES AND WHERE THAT WENT.
WE'LL MAKE SURE TO GET THAT, UH, TO YOU AS WELL.
THAT WAS, UH, PAUL, YOU HAD, UM, 1, 1, 1 LAST NOTE ON THAT IS I DO WANT TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT WE THANK, UM, HO LAKE SHORE.
UH, THAT'S A BUSINESS THAT'S, UH, LOCATED ADJACENT.
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT CLOCK TOWER IS, UH, ENTIRELY ON TOWN OR IS PRIMARILY, UH, ON TOWN PROPERTY.
AND THEY HAD TO ACTUALLY GIVE UP, UH, PARKING SPOTS, UM, DURING THE PRIME SEASON OF THEIR BUSINESS, UM, TO ACCOMMODATE, UH, FOR SAFETY CONCERNS, UH, FOR SOME OF THEIR, THEIR CUSTOMERS AND PEOPLE ON THE WATERFRONT.
UM, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE THANK THEM FOR THEIR PATIENCE, UH, AND WHAT TOOK A LOT LONGER THAN WE ANTICIPATED IT TAKING ANYTHING ELSE? YEP.
I HAVE, UH, SEVERAL ISSUES TO REPORT BACK ON.
UH, FIRST I WANNA RECOGNIZE THAT, UH, THE, UH, HAMBURG COMPOST INITIATIVE, UH, HAS STARTED AND, UM, WE HAVE SOME, SOME WONDERFUL RESULTS TO SUPPORT.
OUR ORIGINAL GOAL WAS TO SIGN UP TO ENROLL 100 PEOPLE IN THIS, UH, HOUSEHOLD COMPOSTING PROGRAM WHERE FOLKS WERE ABLE TO ENROLL AT THE FARMER'S MARKET.
THEY WERE ABLE GET TOTES THAT THEY COULD PUT ON THE COUNTERTOP OR IN THEIR GARAGE TO COLLECT THIS, THESE ORGANIC MATERIALS AND THEN DROP THEM OFF RIGHT HERE AT TOWN HALL IN RECEPTACLES IN A PARTNERSHIP WITH FARMER PIRATES.
UM, OUR HOPE WAS TO GET A HUNDRED PEOPLE IN SIX WEEKS.
WE GOT A HUNDRED PEOPLE, PLUS IN A WEEK AND A HALF.
UM, THIS WAS A LOW COST PILOT, UM, AND NOW WE'LL SEE HOW MUCH PEOPLE ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE, HOW MUCH ORGANIC WASTE WE WILL DIVERT FROM, UH, LANDFILLS THROUGH THIS PROGRAM.
AND IF, UH, WE CAN EXPAND THE PROGRAM IN THE SPRING, WE'LL BE WELL POSITIONED TO DO SO.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO, UH, UH, CONGRATULATE THE YOUTH RECONCI SERVICES DEPARTMENT ON A GREAT HISPANIC HERITAGE CELEBRATION ON SEPTEMBER 21ST.
I HAD PREVIOUSLY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE SOME SALSA LESSONS, WHICH ARE VERY DIFFICULT.
UH, AT THIS EVENT, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY
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TO LEARN GUE, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR ME, AND, UH, WAS A GREAT TIME.IT WAS HAD BY EVERYBODY FROM KIDS ALL THE WAY UP TO, UH, OLDER ADULTS.
SO, GREAT JOB, VERY WELL ATTENDED.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, ECHO LYNN RON'S COMMENTS ABOUT, UH, ABOUT ANNALISE AND, AND JOSH, UH, VERY RESPONSIVE TO THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS, THIS NEW EMPLOYEE, UH, AND, AND, AND A NEW CONSULTANT FROM WENDELL UNDER DREW RILEY'S TUTELAGE.
UH, WE'RE GETTING BACK TO RESIDENCE QUICKER AND WITH MORE ACTIONABLE INFORMATION.
UM, MRS. RE, UM, I, I AGREE A HUNDRED PERCENT WITH YOUR ASSESSMENT OF THE APPROPRIATENESS OF A ROAD SAFETY AUDIT.
UM, I LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, EXAMINING, UH, THE INFORMATION THAT THE NEW YORK STATE DOT OFFERS.
UM, I SUSPECT THAT YOU'LL FIND THE AUDITS THAT WE'VE CONDUCTED ALREADY HAVE BROUGHT A MULTIDISCIPLINARY APPROACH WITH AN ACTIONABLE RE REPORT THAT REQUIRES A RESPONSE.
THIS IS BRAND NEW FOR THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, SO WE CERTAINLY HAVE PLENTY TO LEARN.
I LOOK FORWARD TO, TO READING WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO REPORTING BACK TO YOU THE RESULTS OF PREVIOUS AUDITS.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO, UH, JUST LET YOU KNOW THAT, UM, SO WE, WE'VE CONDUCTED SOME OF THESE, THESE FORMAL AUDITS WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF, OF GOBI, UH, WHO HAS A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER, UH, THAT IS PART OF THEIR TEAM.
UM, AND THEN WE'VE ALSO DONE SOME INFORMAL AUDITS WITH DAN BURTON, A A NATIONALLY RENOWNED WALKABILITY EXPERT, UH, WHO WAS IN HERE TO ADVISE US ON THE MCKINLEY AND CLARK INTERSECTION.
AND THEN MOST RECENTLY, OVER THIS PAST WEEKEND, THE, UH, AMSTEL ROAD TRAFFIC SITUATION WHILE HE WAS IN TOWN, UH, I REQUESTED THAT HE SET ASIDE SOME TIME TO MEET WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT TO EXAMINE THAT, THAT INTERSECTION.
SO WE GOT TOGETHER TODAY, MR. BURDEN, MYSELF, CAPTAIN LAVELL AND CHIEF DIAZ, TO GO OVER THE, THE, THE DYNAMICS OF THAT INTERSECTION TO GO OVER THE TRAGIC CRASH THAT RESULTED IN THE DEATH OF, OF CASEY.
AND IT, IT, IT WAS, IT WAS A START, BUT I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, THAT WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE THAT MEETING.
WE'D HAVE SOME ROUGH IDEAS, BUT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO BRING THAT MULTIDISCIPLINARY APPROACH TO THAT CORRIDOR.
SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT A RESOURCE TO OUR ATTENTION.
UM, I ALSO, UH, WOULD LIKE TO, UH, ALSO AGAIN, CONGRATULATE YOUTH REC AND SENIOR SERVICES ON THIS VOLUNTEER RECOGNITION EVENT.
UH, THIS DEPARTMENT ESPECIALLY REALLY THRIVES ON VOLUNTEERS.
I GOT MY START, MY, MY CAREER START AS, AS A VOLUNTEER IN SENIOR SERVICES.
AND I WAS VERY LUCKY TO VOLUNTEER AND WORK ALONGSIDE THE GENTLEMAN THAT THIS VOLUNTEER RECOGNITION EVENT IS NAMED FOR DR.
BILL WEBSTER, AND I BELIEVE HIS NAME IS WORTHY OF, UH, MENTIONING TONIGHT, WHO WAS A WELL-KNOWN HAMBURG PEDIATRICIAN.
UM, BUT I GOT TO KNOW HIM VERY WELL IN HIS ROLE AS A VOLUNTEER WHO BROUGHT THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF SMILES TO THE SENIOR CITIZENS IN OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH HIS GIFT OF MUSIC AND VOLUNTEER SERVICE.
UM, SO PLEASE REMEMBER, UH, MR. WEBSTER, UH, AND HIS VOLUNTEER CAPACITY AS, UH, AS WE CONTINUE TO, TO BUILD GREAT PROGRAMS IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG.
UM, FOR FOLKS WHO ARE, UH, SCARED TO REQUEST ATTENTION TO NOISE ORDINANCE, UH, NO PUN INTENDED, WE HEAR YOU
UM, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A TOUGH SITUATION.
UH, FRANCINE THANK YOU FOR POINTING OUT THE, THE VILLAGE NOISE ORDINANCE.
UM, I HADN'T THOUGHT TO LOOK THERE, BUT CERTAINLY IT'D BE A GOOD PLACE TO START.
WE HAVE BROUGHT THIS UP AT, AT CODE REVIEW.
UM, THERE'S A LOT OF OBSTACLES AND BACK AND, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF EQUIPMENT OUR POLICE OFFICERS MIGHT HAVE TO CARRY AROUND AND HOW THAT WOULD WORK.
BUT WE CONTINUE TO, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, JUST RESPOND TO MR. MALONEY'S COMMENTS.
THE GLOCK TOWER PROJECT, UH, HAS BEEN PAID 100% BY FUNDS FROM THE TOWN GENERAL FUND.
WE DID THAT BECAUSE FEMA ONLY REIMBURSES.
SO WE CANNOT GIVE YOU A REPORT OF WHAT FEMA HAS PAID OR WHAT
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THE TOWN HAS PAID, OR WHAT SOMEBODY ELSE HAS PAID.THE TOWN HAS PAID FOR ALL OF IT.
UM, I MEAN 99.9% CERTAIN, UM, THAT THIS WILL BE REIMBURSED 75% BY FEMA.
THERE ARE SOME OTHER ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN NEGOTIATED AS FAR AS, UH, THE, THE PROPERTY LINES.
BUT AS COUNCIL MEMBER CONLEY SAID, THIS IS, THIS IS A TOWN OWNED ASSET AND NOW IT'S A MUCH NICER ASSET.
IT'S GOING TO BE A STRONGER ASSET.
UH, AND WE'RE STILL RESPONSIBLE TO, TO MAINTAIN THAT.
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ON, ON MAINTENANCE TOWN OWNED PROPERTY, WE MAINTAIN IT.
UM, ARPA FUNDS, UH, WE CAN CERTAINLY GIVE YOU A REPORT ON ARPA FUNDS, BUT I DID NOT WANT YOUR REQUEST FOR ARPA FUNDS TO INDICATE THAT WE HAVEN'T REPORTED ON ARPA FUNDS BECAUSE WE'VE DONE SO EXTENSIVELY OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS THAT, THAT I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD AND WE CONTINUE TO UPDATE THE, THE PUBLIC ON WHAT WE'RE USING THOSE FUNDS FOR AND HOW MANY REMAIN.
SO ONCE WE GET THROUGH THE BUDGET, I'M SURE WE COULD PUT TOGETHER A NICE PRESENTATION THAT WOULD GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE THOSE FUNDS HAVE BEEN SPENT OR WHERE THOSE FUNDS WILL BE SPENT.
IN FACT, WE NEED TO HAVE A PLAN SUBMITTED TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BY THE END OF 2024.
SO WHATEVER MIGHT BE REMAINING, WE BETTER HAVE A PLAN FOR IT BY THE END OF NEXT YEAR.
AND I'M CONFIDENT THAT WE WILL, ALL THE FUNDS HAVE TO BE SPENT BY THE END OF 2026.
SO YOUR QUESTION, UH, AND REMARKS ARE VERY TIMELY.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THEM TO THE BOARD.
UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE AND I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER COME FURTHER.
JUST WANNA TAKE A MOMENT AND THANK THE LIBRARY.
THEY RAN A FANTASTIC BOOK SALE, WHICH MAKES FINE BOOKS FOR YOUR KIDDOS OR FOR YOURSELF, FOR THE BOOKWORM IN EACH OF US.
THAT'S PERHAPS MAYBE THE WELL-INTENTIONED BEFORE.
UM, DEFINITELY MORE AFFORDABLE, BUT IT ALSO HELPS SUPPORT THE LIBRARY PROGRAMMING THAT THEY RUN THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER AND THEY RUN THROUGHOUT THE SCHOOL YEAR, UM, AND THE ACTIVITIES THEY DO IN THE LIBRARY.
SO IF ANY OF YOU WERE OUT THERE AND HAD A CHANCE TO SUPPORT 'EM, I THANK YOU FOR THAT.
JILL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PANTA PUBLIC OUTREACH.
I'M SUPER EXCITED TO SEE HOW SENIOR BOWLING GOES.
I KNOW BOWLING IS ALWAYS A FAMILY FAVORITE AND A CLASSROOM FAVORITE, SO I'LL BE EXCITED TO SEE HOW THAT'S RECEIVED.
UM, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO FINDING OUT WHAT OTHER SENIOR PROJECTS YOU HAVE IN MIND FOR YOUR CREW.
UM, AND KEN, IMPRESSIVE, UH, PROJECTS AHEAD OF SCHEDULE, LIKE, AND NOT EVEN A LITTLE, YOU'RE A LOT AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.
AND, UH, I KNOW IT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID, BUT I WILL ALSO SAY THANK YOU TO JILL GORMAN KING AND HER ENTIRE STAFF.
I ALSO WAS IN ATTENDANCE LAST WEEK FOR THE HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH CELEBRATION.
AND IT, AND IT TRULY WAS A, A LOT OF FUN BEING THE, UM, THE DANCING, THE, THE FOOD, THE MUSIC, UH, CRAFTS, ET CETERA, REALLY WAS A, UM, A A WONDERFUL EVENING.
AND NOT ONLY THAT EVENT, BUT AS YOU HEARD TONIGHT TOO, THERE'S A MYRIAD OF EVENTS THAT THEY PUT ON CONSTANTLY FOR OUR SENIORS, FOR OUR COMMUNITY AT LARGE.
SO THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR ENTIRE STAFF.
UH, AND THEN I ALSO JUST WANTED TO RECOGNIZE THAT YESTERDAY WAS NATIONAL GO GOLD STAR MOTHERS AND FAMILIES DAY RECOGNIZED NATIONALLY.
AND OUT AT OUR VFW 1419 POST, UM, THEY HAD A CEREMONY TO DEDICATE A STONE AND MEMORIAL GARDEN THAT WAS, UH, PUT TOGETHER BY THE HAMBURG GARDEN CLUB.
AND IT WAS, UM, A WONDERFUL DEDICATION CEREMONY.
AND THE INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE THERE, THE FAMILIES AND AND THE MOTHERS, GREATLY APPRECIATED WHAT WAS DONE.
IF YOU EVER HAVE A CHANCE TO STOP BY AND SEE THIS STONE I MEMORIAL GARDEN AT THE VFW POST IT, UM, UH, THE QUOTE THAT IS ON THERE SAYS, HONOR, UM, HEAL.
AND IT TALKS THOSE IMPORTANT WORDS TO HONOR AND TO HEAL.
AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A DAY, THE LAST SUNDAY IN SEPTEMBER WHERE WE DO MAKE SURE THAT WE STOP AND TAKE A MOMENT TO THINK ABOUT ALL OF THOSE GOALS, OUR MOTHERS AND FAMILIES, AND WHAT IT MEANS TO THEM.
THEY, UM, SACRIFICE TO THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES.
SO IT WAS AN HONOR TO BE PRESENT FOR THAT YESTERDAY.
ALRIGHT, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE BOARD MEETING.
IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY SAYING A AYE, AYE.
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STUDENTS, WE CAN TAKE CARE OF YOU UP HERE.