Oct 23, 2023 10-23-2023 TB Meeting

WAS THERE EVER, WAS THERE ANY COSTS MENTIONED IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH IT'LL COST TO MAKE THESE REPAIRS? NO, THERE WAS, UM, WE COULD REACH OUT TO SOME CONTRACTORS THAT DO TANK WORK AND SEE ABOUT THAT, UM, SEE ABOUT THESE, THESE MINOR REPAIR ITEMS AND WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO DO IT BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE TO ACCESS THE CATWALK.

AND SO WE WANNA USE A COMPANY THAT IS USED TO WORKING ON WATER TANKS, BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, IT'S FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD WORK.

WOULDN'T MAKE IT CHALLENGING.

UM, IN THE PAST, IT'S BEEN PROPOSED, UH, FROM THE WATER TOWER COMMITTEE.

IF THEY WERE TO HAVE, UM, THIS CREATED INTO A, A, A PAINTING THAT ONE OF THE THINGS WOULD BE TOURISM AND PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO WALK UP THERE, UM, WAS THAT ADDRESSED OR WHAT'S THE, I, UH, WHAT WAS THEIR ASSESSMENT IF, IF POSSIBLE? UM, IN TERMS OF HAVING ACTUAL PEOPLE UTILIZING THE FACILITY? IT WAS A GIVING PLATFORM.

IT WASN'T ON THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE.

IT WAS LIKE, UH, ON THE, YEAH, NO, THERE WOULD BE NO IMMEDIATE ACCESS TO THE OKAY.

SO WE WOULDN'T ANY WAY TO GO.

OKAY, GOOD.

YEAH, THERE IS AN OLD BUILDING, HAD ME A LITTLE NERVOUS.

IT'S CHALLENGING BECAUSE THE DRIVEWAY COMES OFF POWERED TO A FENCE LINE.

ONCE YOU'RE IN THE FENCE LINE, THERE'S AN OLD BUILDING THERE AND THE, THE TANK IS ACTUALLY TO THE RIGHT.

SO TO ACTUALLY GET ALL THE WAY IN TO BE CLOSE TO THE TANK WOULD BE QUITE AN UNDERTAKING.

AND IT IS A SECURED FENCE WITH A LOCK THAT THE, THE TOWN HAS ACCESS TO, UM, TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM JUST MEANDERING THROUGH.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF TREES AND EVERYTHING AROUND THE TANK, UM, THAT

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WHEN YOU GET CLOSER, YOUR BEST VIEW IS DEFINITELY FARTHER OUT WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE TANK AS A WHOLE.

SO I THINK THE ONLY TWO FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS I'D HAVE FOR YOU GUYS TO, IF YOU CAN LOOK INTO WITH THE PEOPLE THAT DID THIS OR THOSE THAT ARE KNOWLEDGEABLE, IT'LL BE ONE INITIAL UPFRONT COST TO GET IT TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE TO FEEL LIKE IT'S SAFE.

AND THEN TWO, WHAT THEY ANTICIPATE THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE OF SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT YOU IDENTIFIED.

THAT WON'T JUST BE ONE TIME REPAIRS, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL REQUIRE SOME ONGOING MAINTENANCE IF WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE OF THOSE TWO NUMBERS, UH, THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

WE'LL WORK ON THAT.

I WOULD IMAGINE, JUST FROM WHAT I'M SEEING.

SO, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT BRING ANY NEW STEEL IN.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TIGHTENING BOLTS AND DRILLING SOME HOLES.

SO IT WOULD JUST BE A MATTER OF DOES THE COMPANY ADDRESS THESE MINOR REPAIRS OR DO WE NEED TO PAY FOR SOMEBODY TO ACCESS IT? LIKE THERE'S, YEAH, THERE WOULD REALLY BE NOTHING TO PAY FOR EXCEPT FOR THE LABOR INVOLVED IN MAKING THE TITAN LOCATION.

YEAH, THERE'S NO MATERIALS.

IT WOULD BE LABOR AND OBVIOUSLY, UM, INSURANCE WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT JUST BECAUSE, UM, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CLIMBING A TOWER, WHICH IMMEDIATELY, UM, WE WOULD, UH, THE HIGHER INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS THAT THE TOWN WOULD APPLY, WHICH DOES HAVE SOME COSTS THAT WILL GO INTO THE PROJECT OR ANY WORK ON THE DAY, AS WELL AS ANY CODING THAT WE DECIDED TO DO AS WELL.

CORRECT, CORRECT.

AS SOON AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WORKING AT HEIGHTS, UM, IN, IN ALL CASES, HIGHER INSURANCE WOULD, WOULD BE REQUIRED AND SAFETY, UH, DISCUSSIONS WOULD BE REQUIRED.

KIM, WHAT'S THE VALUE OF MAIN, LIKE KEEPING A STRUCTURE LIKE THIS? BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S JUST GONNA REQUIRE CONTINUAL MAINTENANCE, BUT SINCE IT'S NOT BEING USED TO HOUSE WATER, IT IS, IT, IT HAS NO VALUE AS FAR AS INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, FOR THE TOWN.

UH, EVEN IF FOR SOME REASON IT WAS DEEMED NECESSARY FROM A WATER SIDE, LET'S SAY BY YOUR COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY, UM, UH, TANK THIS AGE, CHANCES ARE THEY WOULD NOT WANNA REUSE, UM, WITHOUT DOING SIGNIFICANT UPGRADES.

THEREFORE, USUALLY NEW TANKS ARE LOOKED AT AND, UH, IF YOU'VE HEARD ANYTHING AROUND THE AREA, THAT'S WHAT THE WATER AUTHORITY IS LOOKING AT MOSTLY IS NEW TAKES.

I THINK ALSO TOO, AS FAR AS THE INFORMATION THAT CHRIS HAD PRESENTED WAS THE IDEA OF, I MEAN, IT'S OUR WATER TOWER.

UM, THE, THE OVERCOAT WOULD, WOULD MAKE IT, UH, SO THERE WOULDN'T DETERIORATE AT A RAPID RATE.

HOWEVER, THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT EXPENSE IN TAKING IT DOWN.

RIGHT.

CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? DO YOU HAVE THOSE NUMBERS? UM, THE COST OF DE DEMOLITION, AND I DID GET ONE QUOTE DURING THE PANDEMIC.

IT WAS OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO TAKE IT DOWN.

UM, AND I THINK THAT WAS A VERY LOW ESTIMATE.

UM, THAT SEEMS SIGNIFICANT.

WE'RE LOOKING TO WORK AND NO, UM, BENEFIT TO THE TOWN.

UH, THE COMPANY WOULD TAKE THE, UM, SCRAP METAL, THEY WOULD PROFIT FROM IT.

NOT THE TOWN.

THE VILLAGE KENMORE JUST TOOK ONE DOWN FOR 1.1 MILLION.

THAT SOUNDS MORE, MORE LIKE IT.

UM, THE VISITORS BUREAU HAS BEEN, UM, VISIT BUFFALO NIAGARA HAS BEEN A PROPONENT OF THE PROJECT.

THAT WOULD BE THE AREA WE WOULD EXPECT, UM, AT, IT WAS OVER A MILLION DOLLARS TO, TO DEMO THIS SIZE TECH.

WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AND YOU'RE GETTING THE NUMBERS, CAN YOU GET THE NUMBERS AND THEN PLAN OUT FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS AND THEN 20 YEARS, LIKE HOW OFTEN ARE WE GONNA BE DOING THIS EXPENSE? BECAUSE YEAH, 1.1 IS A LOT OF MONEY, BUT IF IT'S A ONE TIME EXPENDITURE VERSUS SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS EVERY YEAR, IT MAY BE WORTH AT LEAST STARTING TO PLAN FOR THAT.

YEAH, WE CAN COMPARE A FEW DIFFERENT TRACKS AND WHAT THOSE FINALIZED LOOK LIKE.

THANKS SO MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT.

I WOULD SAY TYPICALLY WHEN YOU'RE DOING AN OVER COATING OF A STEEL STRUCTURE, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I MEAN IT'S BEEN QUITE A FEW DECADES SINCE IT'S BEEN DONE AND IT'S MAINTAINED GOOD CONDITION.

UM, IT WOULDN'T BE LIKELY SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE DONE AGAIN FOR, FOR DECADES IF WE CORRECT INVEST IN IT.

IT WOULDN'T BE A, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS EVERY YEAR TO BE, WE WOULDN'T BE PAINTING IT EVERY YEAR TO PROTECT FIELD.

NO, YOU'D BE LOOKING AT 10 TO 20 YEARS FOR WITH A, A NEW COATING.

AGAIN, SOME AREAS WHERE A LITTLE MORE THAN THAN THAN OTHERS.

UM, A GOOD GAUGE, I'M SURE YOUR COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY WOULD TELL US.

WHAT ABOUT THEIR SCHEDULE IS FOR EXTERIOR COATINGS, WHICH WOULD GIVE US AN IDEA.

AGAIN, THEY HAVE CONCERN OF THE COATING ON THE INSIDE, WHICH IS COME IN CONTACT WITH POTABLE WATER.

SO THEY ARE A LITTLE MORE STRINGENT ON, UH, BOTH INSPECTIONS AND COATINGS.

UH, BUT IT MIGHT BE ABLE TO GIVE US A ROUGH GAUGE OF, UH, TIMELINES WE'D BE LOOKING AT.

UM, AND IF I COULD JUST ADD, UM, UH, THE HAMBURGER WATER TOWER PROJECT REALLY SEES THIS AS AN ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AND TOURISM ON AVERAGE HERE IN EVERY AREA COUNTY.

UM, EVERY HOUSEHOLD, UM, HAS, UH, NEARLY $550 LESS THAT THEY PAY IN TAXES EVERY YEAR DUE TO .

OUR GOAL WOULD BRING, BRING MORE TOURISTS TO THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, UM, AND HAVE THEM SPEND NOT JUST THEIR TIME AT THEIR MONEY TO GREAT INVESTMENT.

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FOR EVERY DOLLAR INVESTED IN TOURISM, NEARLY A HUNDRED DOLLARS COMES BACK TO ERIE COUNTY.

SO, UM, IT'S NOT JUST, UM, INVESTING IN THE WATER TOWER, NO RETURN.

OUR GOAL IS TO BE ABLE TO LEVERAGE FUNDS THAT THE TOWN MIGHT PUT INTO SOME OF THE AND USE THOSE TO GET COUNTY AND STATE FUNDS.

'CAUSE ALL THE WELLS PRIVATE FUNDS TO DO THE ACTUAL, UM, MURAL THAT WOULD HELP PUT WESTERN NEW YORK ON THE MAP.

WE'VE HAD CONTACTS FROM CNN AND THE WALL STREET JOURNAL.

THEY'RE INTERESTED, UH, WE LIKE TO SAY IF WE PAINT IT, THEY WILL COME.

WE'LL SEE MORE PEOPLE HERE IN HAMBURG.

I HAVE ALSO ASKED OUR DIRECTOR OF YOUTH RECREATION AND SENIOR CIVIL SERVICES.

JILL GOMAN CAME TO REPORT ON, UH, SEVERAL TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES THAT SHE'S BRINGING TO HER STAFF.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, UH, THAT MOST OF YOU KNOW, SINCE YOU'VE POINTED THEM, WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW STAFF.

UM, WE DO WANNA DO TRAININGS.

WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING THINGS A LOT MORE FLUIDLY IN THE DEPARTMENT.

UM, WE WILL HAVE PEOPLE LESS, UM, SILOED IN SENIORS, RECREATION AND YOUTH.

THEY'RE KIND OF GONNA BE GOING BACK AND FORTH.

SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO GET THEM TRAINED SO THAT THEY TRULY UNDERSTAND BEST PRACTICES AND THEY UNDERSTAND, UM, WHAT GOES INTO CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING.

THE FIRST TRAINING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE PASS TRAINING, THE PASSENGER ASSISTANCE, SAFE SAFETY AND SENSITIVITY TRAINING.

NOT ONLY IS THIS A TRAINING, IT'S A TRAIN THE TRAINER.

SO THE TWO INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE GOING TO THIS CAN THEN COME BACK AND TRAIN ANY OF OUR STAFF.

THEY CAN TRAIN OUR DRIVERS, UM, AND THEY CAN TRAIN, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH ANYBODY FROM OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT MAY UTILIZE, UH, TRANSPORTATION SERVICES.

SO THE TRAINING DISCUSSES THINGS.

UM, YOU KNOW, HOW TO DO MEDICAL TRANSPORT, UM, WHEN YOU OVERSEE A, UH, TRAINING SYSTEM.

SO WE ARE, AS YOU KNOW, GETTING A NEW, UM, TRAINING COMPUTER SYSTEM.

SO THIS WILL BE SOMETHING THAT DISCUSSES ALL THE DIFFERENT ONES THAT ARE UTILIZED, UM, THE PROS AND CONS, AND IT'LL HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW TO BEST USE THAT EQUIPMENT.

UM, IT DISCUSSES CERTAIN THINGS WITH LIKE VEHICLE LIFT PROCEDURES, UM, SECUREMENT, YOU KNOW, SAFETY ISSUES THAT ARE GONNA ARISE.

SO AGAIN, WE'RE GONNA LEARN BEST PRACTICES.

AS WE KNOW, 10 YEARS AGO HOW YOU PUT A WHEELCHAIR IN A VAN LIKE THIS WAS EXTREMELY DIFFERENT.

UM, IT'S BECOME MUCH SAFER, UH, BUT IT'S DIFFERENT.

SO WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO DO THESE TRAININGS, YOU KNOW, EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS, MAKE SURE WE'RE MEETING THE STANDARDS, MAKE SURE THAT OUR STAFF UNDERSTAND IT AND MAKE SURE WE CAN BRING THOSE TRAININGS BACK.

UM, AND THEN IT WILL ALSO BE AT NO COST, WHICH IS GREAT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO BRING OTHER AGENCIES OR OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN TO DO THIS.

UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY THE NICE THING ABOUT THIS TOO, IS THAT IT IS GONNA BE ONLINE, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM TO GO ANYWHERE.

WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY THEIR LODGING.

IT'LL JUST BE THEIR TIME, WHICH IS GREAT.

AND, UM, THEY CAN ALSO, YOU KNOW, THEN COME BACK TO US.

THEY CAN TAKE SOME TIME KIND OF, UM, TALK TO US ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS AND THEN WHEN THEY GO BACK THE SECOND DAY, THEY KIND OF HAVE MORE KNOWLEDGE AND INFORMATION TO ASK QUESTIONS AND GATHER MORE INFORMATION ON THAT.

UM, THE NICE THING IS IT LASTS FOR THREE YEARS AS WELL, SO THEY'LL BE DOING IT EVERY YEAR.

AND WITH OUR 53 10 DOT GRANT, UH, THIS IS VERY HELPFUL TO MAKE US, UM, MORE ELIGIBLE FOR EXTRA FUNDS AS WELL AS IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT THEY WOULD WANT FROM US.

SO IN REGARDS TO THE PAST TRAINING, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? YOU MENTIONED THAT IF THEY'RE TRAINED, THEY CAN THEN TRAIN OTHER PEOPLE.

ARE THEY TRAINING OTHER PEOPLE? JUST WITHIN OUR TOWN OR ACTUALLY EVEN OUTSIDE OUR TOWN, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THEY COULD TRAIN PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE TOWN.

UM, WE'RE FOCUSING RIGHT NOW JUST WITH THAT, UM, BECAUSE WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE GET, LIKE I SAID, ALL OF OUR STAFF WE'RE DEALING WITH THE VAN PROGRAM AS WELL AS ALL THE DRIVERS, UM, YOU KNOW, SUBSTITUTE DRIVERS, ANYONE LIKE THAT.

WE WANNA MAKE SURE THEY'RE ALL TRAINED FIRST, BUT THEN WE'D BE HAPPY TO HELP OUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE COUNTY, MAYBE GO PARK, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR NEIGHBOR, UH, COMMUNITIES, ONCE WE'VE MADE SURE WE ARE, WE'RE ALL TRAINED AND READY TO GO.

ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY.

WELL JUST ONE QUICK FOLLOW ON.

SO THAT'S, IF THEY DID, BECAUSE YOU HAD JUST MENTIONED THAT IT COULD SAVE MONEY, UH, BECAUSE WE WON'T HAVE TO PAY THESE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.

IF WE WENT TO THEM, WOULD IT BE JUST A FREE SERVICE OR WOULD THEY ACTUALLY BE PAYING US TO TRAIN THEIR TRAINERS? SO, UM, WHAT I'VE ACTUALLY DONE IN THE PAST AND CHIEF DO IS THEY JUST PAID FOR THE INDIVIDUAL'S TIME.

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SO WE WOULD BILL 'EM.

SO, UM, THE, THE TOWN WOULDN'T MAKE MONEY PER SE, UM, BUT IT WOULD JUST, IT WOULDN'T COST US ANYTHING, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

SO WE WOULD POSSIBLY DO IT, SAY OUT OF THEIR WORK HOURS, AND THEN THEY WOULD PAY WHAT WE WOULD PAY OUT OVERTIME.

SO THEN WE WOULDN'T ACTUALLY BE PAYING THAT OUT FOR THE TOWN.

THEY WOULD PUT US A CHECK.

UH, WE COULD DO IT DIFFERENTLY.

UM, THAT'S JUST WHAT WE'VE DONE PREVIOUSLY.

SO EVERYBODY'S MADE FULL.

WE'RE STILL OFFERING A SERVICE, BUT THE TOWN ISN'T PAYING FOR ANOTHER MUNICIPALITY TO DO THAT.

GREAT.

ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY.

UM, THE NEXT ONE IS THE A DHC, INTENSIVE DIRECTOR AND STAFF TRAINING.

SO THIS IS OBVIOUSLY SPECIFICALLY FOR, UM, ADULT, ADULT DAYCARE SERVICES.

UM, IT'S, IT'S ALSO VIRTUAL, WHICH IS GREAT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO ANYWHERE.

THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF CHANGES IN THE RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR ADULT DAYCARE.

THEY HAVE RECENTLY, UM, ENCOMPASSED EVERYTHING UNDER A MEDICAL MODEL, WHICH IF EVERYBODY DOES NOT KNOW, THAT MAKES IT EXTREMELY COMPLICATED.

UM, AND UH, THERE ARE A LOT OF REGULATIONS THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT THAT REALLY AREN'T PERTINENT TO, UM, SOCIAL PROGRAMS. SO WE REALLY NEED TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE, AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS BECAUSE CERTAIN THINGS AREN'T LINING UP.

UM, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUALS ARE OFFERING DIFFERENT SERVICES, SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND THAT WE'RE, UM, WE'RE MEETING ALL THE REQUIREMENTS AND THE REGULATIONS AT THE CURRENT TIME.

'CAUSE IT IS ALSO CONSISTENTLY CHANGING SINCE COVID THIS, UM, THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE OBVIOUSLY WERE THE MOST IMPACTED.

SO IT CHANGED CONTINUOUSLY AND NOW IT'S EVEN CHANGED AFTER THE FACT.

SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE UP TO DATE AND THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING ALL REGULATIONS AND WE HAVE ROSEANNE'S GONNA BE PART OF THAT TRAINING AGAIN.

VIRTUALLY.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? OKAY.

THE ASSOCIATION IN NEW YORK STATE YOUTH BUREAUS, UM, WE'VE PRETTY MUCH GONE TO IT EVERY YEAR.

ACTUALLY THIS YEAR.

UM, I'LL BE PRESENTING WITH, WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT LOCAL YOUTH HEROES AND KIND OF THE STRUGGLES THAT WE'RE ALL FACING, UH, WHAT DIFFERENT PEOPLE ARE DOING, UM, HOW THEY'RE DEALING WITH, YOU KNOW, UM, THE RAISING MINIMUM WAGE, THE MONETARY ISSUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, SO WE'LL BE DOING A NICE ROUND TABLE AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE CONFERENCE AFTERWARDS, WHICH WILL INCLUDE ALSO, UM, AFTER SCHOOL ENTITIES, UM, DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, 5 0 1 C THREES.

SO WE'LL ALL KIND OF AGAIN, UM, BEST PRACTICES, WE'LL DISCUSS, WE'LL DISCUSS WAYS WE CAN COLLABORATE, UM, YOU KNOW, AND JUST AGAIN, THE RULES AND REGS WITHIN, UH, THE NEW YORK STATE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS CHANGED NEW YORK STATE CHANGED OUR BILLING CYCLE RECENTLY.

UM, IT IS NOW COINCIDES WITH IT WITH NEW YORK STATE.

IT USED TO BE DECEMBER 31ST TO JANUARY 1ST.

IT IS NOW SEPTEMBER 30TH THROUGH OCTOBER 1ST.

UM, SO A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN VERY CONFUSED BECAUSE THERE WAS A NINE MONTH YEAR LAST YEAR AND YOU KNOW, NOW IT'S GONNA BE A FULL YEAR.

SO A LOT OF THINGS HAVE TO BE EXPLAINED TO US.

UM, SO I THINK NOT ONLY FOR MYSELF TO GO, BUT THE NEW, UM, SENIOR REC SUPERVISOR, NICOLE ROBERTO, WILL BE GOING WITH ME TO HELP UNDERSTAND THOSE THINGS.

'CAUSE WE DO HAVE, UM, FOUR FUNDING, UH, SOURCES THAT COME FROM, UH, OCFS, OFFICE OF CHILDREN AND FAMILY SERVICES.

SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING ALL THAT CORRECTLY.

AND THAT ONE WILL BE IN, UM, WE'LL BE GOING TO SYRACUSE FOR THAT ONE.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? OKAY.

AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS, AGAIN, VIRTUAL.

UM, JOHN SODA IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE OUR YOUTH COURTS ADMINISTRATOR.

HE'S HELD THIS FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

UM, THIS IS, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S EXTREMELY HELPFUL BECAUSE IT DOES, IT DEALS WITH EVERYTHING, MENTAL HEALTH, NUTRITION, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THEY'RE SEEING, UM, IN SPORTS, UM, YOU KNOW, UP TO DATE, UH, ISSUES THAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH, MARKETING, UM, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND JOHN, CAN I KICK IN ANYTIME BEFORE FEBRUARY? SO, UH, IT'S VERY HELPFUL THAT IT'S VERY FLEXIBLE WITH THAT.

SO, UM, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE EXPANDING SOME OF OUR YOUTH SPORTS, SO THIS WILL BE VERY GOOD TO HAVE SOMEBODY WHO IS A CERTIFIED, UM, ADMINISTRATOR IN THAT WHEN WE ADVERTISE.

IS THAT THE NATIONAL ANTI USE FORCE? YES.

UM, ON, I WANNA SAY SEPTEMBER 27.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? OKAY.

I JUST WANNA SAY I APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S SUPPORT.

LIKE I SAID, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING CORRECTLY AND THAT WE'RE USING BEST PRACTICES, UM, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WE, WE CAN DO THE BEST, UH, PROGRAMMING AND OFFER THE BEST SERVICES FOR THE TALENT.

AS I WAS HOPING WE ARE 15 MINUTES AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.

UH, AND THAT BRINGS US TO A, UH, OPPORTUNITY FOR BUDGET DISCUSSION.

UM, I SUBMITTED THE SUPERVISOR'S BUDGET,

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IT WAS DUE SEPTEMBER 30TH, BUT WE GOT IT IN TWO DAYS EARLIER.

UH, ONCE THE BUDGET WAS SUBMITTED, UM, IT WAS THEN PUT ONLINE FOR THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS EMPLOYEES TO REVIEW AND COPIES WERE PRESENTED TO MY COLLEAGUES ON THE TOWN BOARD AT THE FOLLOWING, UH, TOWN BOARD MEETING ON OCTOBER 4TH, I BELIEVE.

SO I HAVE HAD SOME QUESTIONS AND SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH, UH, MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD, AND I BELIEVE I'VE BEEN ABLE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS AND HAVE PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE FOLKS THAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO TALK TO.

I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE WISE TO PUT SOME TIME ON THE AGENDA TODAY FOR ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, UH, THAT HASN'T HAPPENED YET, OR TO TALK ABOUT ANY CONCERNS, UM, WHILE WE ARE ALL HERE IN A PUBLIC MEETING.

SO I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR TO MY COLLEAGUES ON THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSIONS, QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS ON THE BUDGET? I HAVE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT QUESTIONS.

I, I'M THE ORDER YOU WANNA GO.

UM, I KNOW TO START OUT WITH, I WAS CONTACTED, I'M LIAISON FOR THE COURTS AND I KNOW, UM, THAT BRIDGET LAVELL HAD SPOKEN TO YOU AND YOU ASKED HER TO COME THROUGH ME.

SO I KNOW SHE HAD PUT IN HER REQUEST FOR THE SEMINAR LINE TO BE ADJUSTED BECAUSE THE JUDGES, UH, PREVIOUSLY DID NOT THINK THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE PART OF THE ASSOCIATION OF TOWNS CONFERENCE IN FEBRUARY.

IT NOW LOOKS LIKE THEIR TRAINING HAS BEEN INCLUDED.

SO SHE WAS MAKING REQUESTS, UH, BECAUSE THEY WERE INTERESTED IN RECEIVING THAT TRAINING.

SO SHE WAS MAKING A REQUEST FOR THAT BUDGET LINE TO BE, UM, INCREASED WHERE IT WAS LAST YEAR.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I PASSED THAT INFORMATION ALONG TO EVERYONE.

UM, I KNOW I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH SEVERAL PEOPLE AND, AND TO PAT TRY TO GET SOME INFORMATION.

I DID HAVE SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING ALL OF, UM, THE MC, THE SALARY INCREASES, AND I ASKED PAT IF THERE HAD BEEN A FORMULA THAT WAS UTILIZED FOR THOSE.

AND HE SAID, UM, THAT I THINK 3.5%, BUT YET THERE WERE OTHER LINES.

THERE WERE CERTAIN POSITIONS THAT THERE WAS A DEVIATION.

I KNOW AS A BOARD WE'VE HAD A DISCUSSION PREVIOUS YEARS AND, UH, HAD EXPRESSED THAT WE WERE IN FAVOR OF HAVING SOME CONTINUITY BETWEEN ALL OF THOSE POSITIONS.

UM, SO I WANTED TO DISCUSS JUST THAT HAVING THAT CONSISTENCY.

SO IF THERE WASN'T A VARIATION FROM, UM, POSITION TO POSITION ON THE PERCENTAGE SALARY INCREASE THAT WAS IN THE BUDGET, UM, I WAS ALSO HOPING TO GET SOME FURTHER INFORMATION ON THE ADDITION OF A POSITION IN THE TOWN CLERK'S OFFICE.

I HAD, I KNOW FREQUENTLY WE WILL HAVE PEER DISCUSSION OR A DEPARTMENT HEAD WILL BRING UP SOMETHING REGARDING THEIR DEPARTMENT, BUT WE HADN'T REALLY HEARD ANYTHING PREVIOUSLY.

SO I WAS INTERESTED IN HEARING MORE ABOUT, UM, THE NEED AND, AND HOW THAT POSITION WOULD BE UTILIZED.

OR I KNOW IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS WE HAVE, UH, ASKED THOSE DEPARTMENT HEADS TO LOOK AT OTHER STRATEGIES THAT THEY MAY, UH, POSSIBLY USE, WHETHER IT'S PART-TIME HEALTH OR, UM, UH, TECHNOLOGY SUPPORT TO, UM, TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE NEEDS.

I DON'T WANNA, I DUNNO IF YOU WANNA SURE.

NO, LET'S, LETS ADDRESS THOSE.

I MEAN, UM, WE'LL WE'LL START FROM, UH, THE END.

SO I DO RECALL ON OCTOBER 4TH, UH, DURING AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, WE DECIDED TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THE POSITIONS THAT WERE IN THE BUDGET ADDED TO THE BUDGET, UH, BECAUSE THEY ARE PERSONNEL POSITIONS.

AND AT THAT MEETING, I DO BELIEVE THAT SHE QUESTIONED CLAIRE KSKY ON THE NEED FOR THAT POSITION AND SHE WAS ABLE TO RESPOND TO YOUR QUESTIONS.

IS THERE FURTHER INFORMATION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE? WELL, I THINK THE ONLY CONVERSATION WE HAD IT WAS, IT WAS VERY, VERY BRIEF BEFORE WE HAD TO COME UP TO THE MEETING.

AND I THINK IT WAS JUST VERY BRIEF.

YES, THERE'S A NEED FOR IT.

SO, OH, I'M, I'M SORRY.

I THOUGHT YOU SAID THAT THERE WAS NO, YOU HAD NO IDEA ABOUT THE POSITION? NO, THE, UH, THE SUBSTANTIAL, UH, SUBSTANTIATING THE NEED FOR IT WITH FURTHER INFORMATION IS WHAT I WAS REQUESTING.

OH, I'M SORRY, I MISHEARD YOU.

ANY DIFFERENT INFORMATION THAT COULD BE PROVIDED OR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AS WE WEIGHED AGAINST OTHER POSITIONS, UM, THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED OR HAVE NOT BEEN ADDED OR AT THE REQUEST OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS? JUST 'CAUSE WE DO HAVE OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS WHO HAVE REQUESTED ALSO.

SO I'M, YOU KNOW, INTERESTED IN, IN BEING ABLE TO COMPARE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE NEED.

I'M NOT SAYING THERE IS A NEED OR NOT A NEED.

I WAS JUST LOOKING FOR SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

SO SEVERAL YEARS AGO I WAS EDUCATED IN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN EQUALITY AND EQUITY.

AND EQUALITY IS GIVING EVERYBODY THE SAME EXACT THING.

AND EQUITY IS GIVING PEOPLE THE

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THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO BE THEIR BEST SELVES, TO BE THEIR BEST TEAM, TO BE THE BEST PERFORMERS THAT THEY CAN BE.

SO WHEN IT COMES TO ADDING POSITIONS TO DEPARTMENTS, UM, I TOOK THE APPROACH WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEAD TO ADD POSITIONS I KNEW THAT WOULD REALLY, THAT WERE REALLY NEEDED THAT WOULD REALLY CHANGE SOME DYNAMICS WITHIN THEIR DEPARTMENT, WOULD ALLOW THEM TO DELIVER BETTER CUSTOMER SERVICE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC, ALLOW THEM TO BE MORE EFFICIENT IN THE WORK THAT THEY DO.

AND AS WE'VE DISCUSSED, UH, REGULARLY OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS AS A BOARD, I FEEL THAT THE TOM BOARD OVER THE PAST TWO OR THREE DECADES, UM, HAS TARGETED MANY POSITIONS, UM, THAT ARE EITHER, UH, MANAGEMENT CONFIDENTIAL POSITIONS OR DEPARTMENT HEAD POSITIONS.

UH, IN CONSOLIDATION EFFORTS.

WHEN SOMEBODY WOULD RETIRE, THEY WOULD COMBINE TWO DEPARTMENTS AND, UM, FOR THAT REASON, THEY WOULD REALIZE SOME PAYROLL SAVINGS.

UM, BUT THAT COMES AT A COST.

AND WHEN IT COMES TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, THAT COST MAY BE EMPLOYEE TURNOVER.

THAT COST MAY BE A LOWER LEVEL OF SERVICE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

THAT COST MAY BE, UH, IN, IN POTENTIAL ERRORS, OR IT MAY BE IN LOSING QUALIFIED STAFF, UH, BECAUSE OF THE WORKLOAD.

NOW, I'M NOT POINT ANY FINGERS AT CLARK POPINSKI OR HER TEAM.

I THINK THEY DO GREAT WORK.

UM, BUT I ALSO KNOW THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT OFFICE.

I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE CONSOLIDATION THAT HAS HAPPENED WITHIN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, MUCH OF WHICH HAS COME AT THE EXPENSE OF CLERK RODINSKY AND HER TEAM.

SHE HAS SIGNIFICANT MORE DUTIES NOW THAN THE POSITION HAD, UM, GOING BACK 20 YEARS NOW.

US, BUT IT'S HELPFUL FOR EVERYONE OUT THERE TO UNDERSTAND JUST THAT THE DIFFERENT TASKS THAT YOUR OFF OFFICE IS UNDERTAKING.

FOR THAT REASON, UH, THE CONVERSATIONS THAT CLERK RODINSKY AND I HAD, UH, WE LANDED ON THE NEED FOR AN ADDITIONAL POSITION IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE.

FURTHERMORE, WITH THE WAY THINGS HAVE HAPPENED IN THE PAST FEW YEARS, UM, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A QUALIFIED READY TEAM, UM, IN WHAT I WOULD ARGUE OUR MOST PUBLIC FACING DEPARTMENT, UH, TO HANDLE THE BUSINESS OF THE PUBLIC.

SOME DAYS IT MAY BE HUNTING AND FISHING LICENSES, OTHER DAYS IT MAY BE DISTRIBUTING VALUABLE INFORMATION, COVID TESTS AND, AND, AND OTHER THINGS.

UM, SO I THINK IT'S A WISE, UH, AND SMALL INVESTMENT THAT WE CAN BRING TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE ADMINISTRATION.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO ADD, KENNY? WELL, IN, UH, WHEN I TOOK OVER THAT OFFICE IN 2007, WHEN I COMBINED THE TWO OFFICES, BECAUSE TAX WAS SEPARATE FROM THE CLERK WHEN I FIRST RAN FOR THE POSITION, AND UNDER KATHY HOCO, WE COMBINED THE TWO, THEN WE COULD SAVE SOME MONEY, WHICH WE DID.

BUT IT'S GOTTEN TO BE VERY DIFFICULT TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO ALL THE RESIDENTS NOW THAT THE TOWN KEEPS GROWING.

WE'RE AT 60,000 RESIDENTS NOW.

I PROCESS SCHOOL PAYMENTS FOR THE ENTIRE HAMBURG CENTRAL SCHOOL DISTRICT, NOT JUST THE ONES WITHIN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG.

I'M DOING BOSTON, I'M DOING EDEN.

I MEAN, I, I DO EVERYBODY, SO IT'S 28,000 JUST TAX BILLS.

SO, AND EVERY YEAR IT JUST, EVERYTHING JUST KEEPS GROWING.

WE TOOK OVER FROM RECREATION.

THE, UM, THE HANDICAP TAG WE TOOK OVER THE BEACH STICKERS, THOSE WERE ALL DONE IN A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT AND WE TOOK THEM OVER BECAUSE WE HAD A COMPUTER SYSTEM THAT COULD DO IT FOR US.

SO WE HELPED RECREATION ALONG.

WELL, THE BEACH STICKERS AREN'T STILL DONE AT THE BEACH, BUT WE ALSO DO 'EM, BUT THE RESIDENTS ARE PAYING THEIR TAXES.

OH, I'LL GET MY BEACH STICKER TOO.

I'LL GET MY DOG LICENSE.

AND THEY, THEY DO EVERYTHING IN ONE PLACE.

IT'S LIKE A ONE STOP SHOP.

WE, WE DID HUNTING AND HUNTING AND FISHING LICENSES DURING COVID WHEN NO OTHER TOWN WAS DOING THAT.

I HAD PEOPLE COMING FROM AMHERST TO GET, UM, LICENSES FROM THE DEPARTMENT.

SO WE'VE, WE'VE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND FOR THE TOWN.

AND SOME, SOME PEOPLE GOT OVERTIME, SOME PEOPLE DIDN'T.

AND WHEN MY STAFF PROBABLY GET IT.

SO WE WORK REALLY HARD THERE.

WE'VE ALWAYS, ALWAYS DONE WHAT WE WERE ASKED, WHATEVER THE TOWN BOARD WANTED, WE DID IT.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IF THAT'S ENOUGH, BUT YES.

KATHY, THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR EVERYONE TO HEAR SPECIFICS LIKE THAT, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S AN ADDITION OF POSITION.

I THINK IT'S REALLY HELPFUL FOR

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SO I THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION.

AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD, UM, UNFORTUNATELY I'M NOT YOUR LIAISON ANYMORE, BUT I'M SURE AS THE CONVERSATION YOU'VE HAD WITH COUNCILMAN, COUNCILMAN ERFORD, UM, YOU'VE NEEDED THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

AND HAVE WAITED AND MADE GO WITH US.

RIGHT? I TRIED WITH PART-TIME AND IT JUST, YEAH.

UM, SO I, I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE AND, AND I'M SUPPORTING OF INVESTING.

THANK YOU PURPOSES.

WE'RE ATTRACTING EMPLOYEES.

AND THE POSITION, UM, I WORKED WITH KIM AND SOME OF THE, THE FUNDING WAS FROM THE PART-TIME SALARIES, SO I GAVE THAT UP TO GO TOWARDS THE, THE SALARY.

THANKS.

SO I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADDRESS THE, UM, THE SALARY, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO MANAGEMENT CONFIDENTIAL STAFF.

UM, OUR, UH, COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS WITH OUR UNIONIZED EMPLOYEES CALL FOR RAISES IN 2024 THAT RANGE BETWEEN TWO AND 4%.

MOST OF OUR EMPLOYEES ARE GOING TO ENJOY A RAISE AT 3.5% OR MORE.

THOSE ARE OUR UNIONIZED EMPLOYEES.

THE BOARD HAS FLEXIBILITY TO IMPLEMENT RAISES FOR OUR MANAGEMENT CONFIDENTIAL EMPLOYEES AT THE LEVEL THAT WE AGREE UPON DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS.

I THOUGHT A GOOD PLACE TO START WOULD BE THREE AND A HALF PERCENT, WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH WHERE MOST OF OUR EMPLOYEES WILL BE SEEING RAISES, UM, IN 2024.

HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME OUTLIERS.

AS I SAID BEFORE, THIS IS A MATTER OF EQUITY, NOT EQUALITY.

THERE ARE SOME POSITIONS THAT ARE GONNA SEE MORE THAN A THREE AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE.

AND THOSE ARE DUE IN LARGE PART TO TWO REASONS.

THE FIRST REASON IS THAT WE'VE HAD DONE A LOT OF HIRING IN THE TOWN.

WE'VE HAD RETIREMENTS AND THAT HAS BROUGHT NEW PEOPLE ON.

THOSE NEW PEOPLE HAVE COME WITH SALARY NEGOTIATIONS.

IT'S A DIFFERENT LABOR MARKET NOW.

THEY HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE LEVERAGE, UM, WHEN THEY COME TO THE TOWN.

SO WHEN THOSE FOLKS HAD COME IN, IT HAS CHANGED THE, UH, PAY SCALE WITHIN THOSE DEPARTMENTS.

SO THERE WERE SOME CHANGES THAT WERE MADE TO BRING EQUITY TO THOSE DEPARTMENTS AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A FAIR PAY SCALE.

NOT ONLY DOES THAT BRING FAIRNESS TO THE DEPARTMENT AND INCREASE AND IMPROVE MORALE, BUT IT ALSO HELPS WITH THE SECOND REASONS, WHICH IS TO KEEP OUR EMPLOYEES.

THIS IS AN EXTREMELY COMPETITIVE LABOR MARKET.

THIS IS AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE MUNICIPALITIES ARE POACHING EMPLOYEES FROM OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.

AND I'VE DONE THAT AND WE'VE BROUGHT SOME GREAT TALENT TO THE TOWN OF HAMBURG.

AND I WANT TO KEEP THESE PEOPLE HERE.

SO SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT WE BROUGHT INTO TOWN GOVERNMENT THAT ARE PERFORMING BEYOND THE EXPECTATIONS OF THIS TOWN BOARD THAT ARE PUSHING PROJECTS ACROSS THE FINISH LINE WHERE IT WAS STAGNANT FOR YEARS BEFORE THAT, THOSE FOLKS ARE SEEING INCREASED RAISES.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION THAT WE'D LIKE TO HAVE ON THE BUDGET? I'VE GOT A FEW COMMENTS.

UM, WELL I THINK TODAY'S, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ON IT.

SO IT'S IMPORTANT, I THINK TO JUST LET EVERYBODY KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE SEEING THE MEMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE A WHILE, UM, IN TERMS OF HOW 2024, UH, IS SHAPING UP.

AND SO I THOUGHT I WOULD JUST COVER A COUPLE POINTS THAT I'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST AND I THINK ARE IMPORTANT TO BRING UP NOW THAT IT'S BUDGET SEASON.

THE FIRST IS, UH, THE FUND BALANCE.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THE OVERALL FUND BALANCE, I THINK IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT METRIC OF HOW STABLE OUR TOWN IS.

UH, IF WE REALLY WANNA BE A FISCALLY SOUND TOWN, THIS IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT ANY HOUSEHOLD WILL LOOK AT AS THEIR EMERGENCY RESERVE.

THIS WILL GIVE THE TOWN THE FLEXIBILITY TO ALLOCATE FUNDS IN CERTAIN YEARS MORE TO PAY DOWN HIGH INTEREST DEBT, AS AN EXAMPLE.

IT WILL ALLOW US TO PUT MORE INTO THE BUDGET TO KEEP TAXES LOW IF WE HAVE AN UNEXPECTED, UH, SHORTFALL A PARTICULAR YEAR.

SO WE'VE REALLY FOCUSED ON THIS THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

AND, AND THIS IS THE ONE TIME A YEAR IN TERMS OF ADDRESSING IT TO THE PUBLIC, WHERE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW WHERE WE STAND,

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YOU KNOW, ON THE FUND BALANCE.

SO TO GIVES YOU JUST A SENSE OF THE FUND BALANCE, UH, I PULL UP THE LAST EIGHT YEARS AND JUST LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT EXACTLY WAS THE FUND BALANCE IN OUR TOWN? AND WE ARE CURRENTLY AT, UH, THE LOWEST OUR FUND BALANCE HAS EVER BEEN WAS IN 2019.

UH, AND THAT TOTAL WAS $8,931,318.

THE HIGHEST UP UNTIL TODAY WAS BACK IN, UH, 2017 WHERE WE HAD $11,283,682.

TODAY WE STAND AT THE HIGHEST FUND BALANCE WE'VE HAD IN THE LAST EIGHT YEARS.

AND I DIDN'T LOOK FURTHER.

IT COULD BE THE, THE HIGHEST WE'VE, WE'VE HAD, I DON'T KNOW, UM, AT $12,000,206 AND 150, 12,206,150.

SO IF WE COMPARE THAT TO WHERE WE'VE BEEN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, THE LAST EIGHT YEARS, UM, THE AVERAGE THAT WE'VE HAD IS ABOUT $10,368,428.

UM, SO WE'RE CURRENTLY SITTING JUST SHY OF $2 MILLION HIGHER THAN WE'VE EVER HAD IN TERMS OF OUR FUND BALANCE.

AND IF WE COMPARE THAT TO THE HIGHEST POINT WE HAD EVER BEEN, WE'RE STILL $922,468 HIGHER.

SO JUST SHY OF A MILLION DOLLARS HIGHER THAN WE HAD EVER BEEN THE HIGHEST IN THE LAST EIGHT YEARS.

WHEN WE LOOK AT, UM, WHERE WE ARE NOW JUST COMPARED TO THE LOWEST, WHICH WAS 2019, WE HAVE $3,274,832 MORE THAN WE HAD, UH, PREVIOUSLY.

UM, AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.

'CAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WE'VE HAD THAT DEBATE AROUND BUDGET SEASON, HOW MUCH DO WE TAKE FROM THE FUND BALANCE TO OFFSET TAXES? AND WHAT I'VE SAID IN THE PAST IS, AS MUCH AS WE WANNA HAVE A 0% EVERY YEAR IN CERTAIN YEARS, IT'S REALLY SMART, REALLY WISE TO THINK, WELL, WHAT'S THE FUTURE GONNA HOLD? AND I THINK, UH, TODAY WHERE WE SIT PUTS US IN A REALLY NICE POSITION BECAUSE OF SOME OF THOSE DECISIONS WE, WE DID, YOU KNOW, IN PREVIOUS YEARS WHEN WE'VE KIND OF BEEN TEMPTED TO MAYBE, UM, GO A LITTLE BIT LOWER WITH THE TAXES, YOU'RE, WE'RE IN A REALLY NICE POSITION NOW.

AND EVEN IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THE LAST THREE YEAR TREND, WHEN YOU TAKE THE GENERAL FUND A AND YOU TAKE THE INSURANCE RESERVE, THE COMBINED BALANCE WENT FROM 4.9 IN 2020 6.5, 2021, AND 7.2 IN 2022 STEADILY INCREASING EACH.

AND EVERY YEAR YOU LOOK AT THE GENERAL PART B 1.4 MILLION 1.2, AND NOW WE'VE GONE UP TO 2.6 MILLION.

THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT 906,000 AND 2000, UH, 21.1 MILLION IN 2021.

WE'RE CURRENTLY AT 1.3 MILLION.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE HIGHWAY DA, IT'S 1.8 2020 2 MILLION 2021.

AND NOW OUR HIGHEST 0.2 0.2 AND 2022.

NOW THESE ARE AUDITED REPORTS.

WE DO HAVE TO WAIT ON SOME OF THESE REPORTS TO GET THE FINANCIAL INFORMATION.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I WANNA APPLAUD THE FINANCIAL DEPARTMENT ON IS WE'VE TAKEN OUR ACCOUNTS, UM, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS, UH, LAST YEAR AT THE BUDGET WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT'S GREAT TO HAVE A 0% TAX, BUT LET'S START THAT DAY AND PLAN FOR THE NEXT YEAR.

SO IF YOU REMEMBER, THAT WAS MY ONLY COMMENT WHEN WE HAD THAT BUDGET MEETING.

LET'S THINK ABOUT NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET TODAY.

AND THAT WAS JUST SHY OF 12 MONTHS AGO.

WE DID THINK ABOUT IT, WE DID PLAN FOR IT, AND THE RESULTS, UM, PUT US IN A REALLY NICE POSITION IS, AND HAVE HELPED, I FEEL, YOU KNOW, HAVE THIS FUND BALANCED.

UH, THE PROJECTED INTEREST ON OUR INVESTMENTS IS OVER 1.3 MILLION, $1,331,287.

WE HAD BUDGETED 88,000.

ANOTHER REPORT THAT I GOT FROM OUR OFFICE STATES THAT THE PROJECTED YEAR END INTEREST

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THIS YEAR IS GONNA BE $1,419,287.

WELL, WHAT THIS REALLY MEANS IS WE'VE TAKEN OUR SHORT TERM RESERVE MONEY THAT HAS TO SIT THERE ANYWAY, AND WE'VE REALLOCATED TO HIGHER INTEREST, UH, UH, VEHICLES SUCH AS, UH, TREASURY BONDS AND HIGHER INTEREST ACCOUNTS THAT ARE REALLY POSITIONING US VERY WELL.

UM, TO HAVE THIS, UH, THE HIGHEST CUSHION WE'VE HAD IN TERMS OF OUR EMERGENCY RESERVES.

PEOPLE ALWAYS HEAR ABOUT THE TAX CAP.

SO AGAIN, FOR THE PUBLIC, I JUST WANNA KIND OF EXPLAIN IN SIMPLE TERMS WHERE WE'RE AT.

THE SUPERVISOR COULD ONLY GO UP TO A CERTAIN LIMIT IN TERMS OF OUR TAX LEVY, THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE ARE ABLE, UM, TO TAX.

AND I BELIEVE THAT NUMBER IS 31 MILLION, $31,513,890.

AND I'D LIKE TO CONGRATULATE HIM BECAUSE WE, HE CA HIS BUDGET COMES IN OVER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS UNDER THAT WE ARE $519,991 BELOW THE 2024 ALLOWABLE LEVY.

AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT INFLATION AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN HAPPEN WITH RISING COSTS, AND RANDY ALLUDED TO THE FACT THAT WE ARE GIVING IN A LOT OF 3% PLUS RAISES TO OUR PERSONNEL TO BE ABLE TO BE OVER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS UNDER THE ALLOWABLE AND HAVE A TAX RATE UNDER 3%, ALL WHILE EARNING THE MOST THAT WE'VE EVER EARNED ON OUR EMERGENCY RESERVES AND HAVING THE BIGGEST FUND BALANCE WE'VE CERTAINLY HAD IN THE LAST EIGHT YEARS.

AND PROBABLY, UH, HISTORICALLY, UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO, TO DO ON THIS BUDGET, BUT I THINK WE'RE IN REALLY SOLID POSITION BECAUSE OF THE FORESIGHT AND 'CAUSE OF WHAT THIS BOARD HAS DONE, UM, THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS WITH WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH, WITH THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.

BUT I HAVE TO CAUTION, WE HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT WE WANNA HAVE MOVING FORWARD.

WE ALSO ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE ON MORE DEBT TO ACHIEVE THESE PROJECTS.

AND WHILE IT'S BEEN GREAT TO HAVE, UH, DEBT, YOU KNOW, I WILL, THE LAST THING I'LL MENTION IS RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF THE DEBT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALSO I THINK IN A REALLY, UH, GOOD POSITION BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DEBT THAT WE HAVE, THE HIGHEST INTEREST DEBT IS ABOUT 5%.

AND WE LOCKED IN AT DEBTS AS LOW AS 1.1%.

SO THAT'S REALLY HELPED OUR FINANCES.

BUT WE HAVE TO AGAIN, THINK ABOUT NEXT YEAR, THINK ABOUT THE FOLLOWING YEAR AND IS THAT REALLY SUSTAINABLE? ARE WE GONNA BE ABLE TO EARN, WE'RE EARNING OVER 5% ON CLOSE TO $15 MILLION.

SO, SO THE REASON WE'RE MAKING INTEREST OF OVER A MILLION DOLLARS IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN A, A HIGH INTEREST RATE ENVIRONMENT.

WE'VE BEEN SMART TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT, BUT WE HAVE TO THINK WHAT'S THE FUTURE GONNA HOLD? AND IT'S LIKELY THAT THAT WON'T BE THE CASE FOREVER.

AND US BORROWING MONEY AT 1.2, WE'VE GOTTA BOND AT 1.3, WE'VE GOTTA BOND AT 1.4%.

IT'S, AND, AND 5% IS THE HIGH END.

IT'S NOT REALLY REALISTIC TO THINK AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND, AND DO MORE AND MORE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO LOCK IN AT THESE KIND OF RATES.

SO, UM, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO BETWEEN NOW WHEN WE FINALIZE THE BUDGET, BUT I THINK WE'RE IN REALLY GOOD SHAPE.

I THINK AS TEMPTING AS IT IS FOR US TO KIND OF TRIM AND, AND TRUST ME, I'M GONNA TRY TO TRIM JUST LIKE ALL THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS.

UM, BUT I THINK WE, WE WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, CAPITALIZE ON THIS GOOD FINANCIAL POSITION AND POSITION US TO KEEP A STEADY FLOW FOR THE TAXPAYERS IN YEARS TO COME.

UM, WHICH I THINK WE'RE OFF TO A REALLY GOOD START.

AND AGAIN, I I LOOK FORWARD TO FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC BEFORE WE MAKE THIS FINAL DECISION ON THE BUDGET.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THE BUDGET? YES, I WOULD LIKE TO, AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF IF NOW IS THE TIME TO DISCUSS, IF YOU WOULD RATHER WAIT TILL WE HAVE THE, THE PUBLIC, UH, UH, MEETING LATER ON.

UM, COUPLE OF THINGS.

I KNOW I THINK AS, AS IT WAS VERY HELPFUL TO HAVE THE

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EXPLANATION FROM KATHY, I KNOW I HAD SOME QUESTIONS AND PAT WAS ABLE TO ANSWER THEM REGARDING, WE PUT A FEW BUDGET LINES WHERE WE ZEROED OUT, WE MOVED THINGS TO OTHER BUDGET LINES.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE FINANCE DEPARTMENTS TO CLEAN UP THOSE TYPE OF THINGS IN THE BUDGET.

BUT AGAIN, MAYBE VERY, UM, HELPFUL FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT WITH SOME OF THE RATIONALES, THE EXPLANATION BEHIND THAT.

UM, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU SEE IT CAN BE VERY CONFUSING.

UM, AND THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE ALWAYS WILLING TO PROVIDE.

UH, AS FAR AS THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT GOES, I AM LIAISON TO THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT.

WE HAVE WORKED WITH, UM, ED HUES.

UM, WE'VE HAD REPEATED CONVERSATIONS OVER THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS.

IT'S BEEN ESTABLISHED BY THIS BOARD AND PREVIOUS BOARDS THAT THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING A REGULAR PURCHASE OF THE PLOWS.

UM, THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES INTO THAT FORMULA.

UM, WHEN YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, THE MAINTENANCE THAT'S INVOLVED, PAT, OR EXCUSE ME, ED HAS PUT TOGETHER A LOT OF INFORMATION WHERE WHEN YOU GET BEYOND A CERTAIN NUMBER OF YEARS, UH, YOU'RE PAYING A LOT IN, IN MAINTENANCE.

HE HAS THE CHALLENGE NOW OF THAT THE SUPPLY CHAIN HAS SLOWED DOWN AND HE HAS TO BE VERY STRATEGIC IN THE WAY HE'S ORDERING.

UM, WE'VE ALWAYS MADE, YOU KNOW, IN, IN WANTING TO STAY ON TRACK WITH ONE PLOW A YEAR, WE'VE MADE THAT COMMITMENT IN RECENT YEARS.

SO I, IN MY DISCUSSIONS WITH HIM, WOULD LIKE TO ADVOCATE FOR THAT, PLOW TO KEEP THAT PROCESS IN PLACE WITH ONE PLOW A YEAR.

UM, HE HAS FOUR PLOWS CURRENTLY THAT ARE 2006.

THEY'RE AT THE POINT NOW WHERE THEY ARE DEMANDING MORE AND MORE MAINTENANCE.

UM, THEY'RE VERY DIFFICULT TO GET PARTS FOR THREE OF THEM 'CAUSE OF OUR PLANNING.

THEY HAVE BEEN, UM, UH, THEY'RE ON ORDER AND SHOULD BE COMING SOON.

BUT TO KEEP THAT GOING, WE WOULD LIKE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, PAT, OR EXCUSE ME AGAIN, ED AND I WOULD LIKE TO ADVOCATE FOR ANOTHER PLOW TO BE PURCHASED THIS YEAR FOR THE HIRING DEPARTMENT SO THAT THAT CAN STAY IN PLACE.

I KNOW THAT HE HAS ALSO, UM, HAD THE CHALLENGE, ESPECIALLY AFTER THE STORMS LAST YEAR, UH, OF HAVING, UM, THAT INFORMATION PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC AND THAT COMES FROM THE, THE FRONT OFFICE AND BEING ABLE TO ANSWER THE PHONES, BEING ABLE TO KEEP THE PUBLIC INFORMED, ET CETERA.

HE WAS, UH, HAD REQUESTED A CLERK POSITION FOR HIS DEPARTMENT AND AS WE HEARD ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF A, UH, AN ADDITIONAL POSITION IN THE TOWN CLERK'S OFFICE AND WE HAVE, UH, POSITIONS LIKE THAT, MANY OF OUR DEPARTMENTS, I THINK THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT ESPECIALLY, UH, WOULD BENEFIT FROM HAVING THAT POSITION.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO, I WELCOME MR. HUGHES TO COMMENT MORE AND UH, TO HAVE DISCUSSION WITH THE BOARD ABOUT THOSE TWO ITEMS AS IT PERTAINS TO THE HIGHWAY BUDGET.

UH, THANK YOU.

UM, THE CLERK'S POSITION UP FRONT, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT, UM, ON YOU CURRENTLY USING A, UM, EMPLOYEE FROM THE BACK UP FRONT, A LABOR, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT LABOR POSITION BACK TO WHERE IT BELONGS AND TO, UH, TO ESTABLISH A CLERK POSITION, UM, FULL-TIME, UM, UP UPFRONT.

SO THAT, THAT'S ONE OF MY, UH, MY, MY THING IS TO GIVE, UH, THE PUBLIC THERE, UM, PUBLIC WHEN SOMEBODY CALLS IN TO GIVE 'EM THE PROPER KNOWLEDGE, PROPER INFORMATION, AND UM, TO ANSWER THE PHONES.

AND IT HANDLED ALL THE COMPLAINTS AND COMES THROUGH.

UM, BECAUSE EVENTUALLY, LIKE I SAID, THAT, THAT, THAT THE LABOR'S POSITION, YOU LIKE TO MOVE BACK INTO THE BACK AND IT CREATE THE, UM, THE CLERK'S JOB.

AND WITH THE PLOW, LIKE, UM, WE, WE HAD ONE OF THE, UH, 2000 SIXES, UM, UH, GO TO, UM, INSPECTION AND THEY FOUND A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS WRONG WITH IT.

SO NOW IT'S GONNA COST, UH, ADDITIONAL MONIES TO, UH, TO GET THAT PLOW BACK UP IN THE, AND RUNNING FOR THE WINTER SEASON.

UM, IT JUST AS OF TODAY, THEY'RE TRYING TO FIND A COUPLE CARS FOR IT AND IT'S BEEN KIND OF DIFFICULT.

SO, UM, I STRESSED THE NEED, BUT WE PLACED IT AT LEAST ONE PLOW PER YEAR SO WE WON'T GET TOO BEHIND, DOWN, DOWN THE YEARS DOWN LONG AFTER.

I'M GOING A QUESTION.

SURE.

UM, SO, AND I KNOW YOU'VE SHARED THIS INFORMATION BEFORE, SO FORGIVE ME FOR NEEDING IN A SECOND TIME.

SO DID YOU, SO BEFORE YOU WERE IN THIS POSITION, WAS THE DEPARTMENT GETTING ONE FILE PER YEAR REGULARLY GOING BACK THE PAST 10, 15 YEAR OR HAD THERE BEEN A LAPSE OF INVESTIGATION? IT'S BEEN A LOT OF LAPSE.

IT WAS, I THINK TED GOT ONE IN 2000 AND 2015.

SO, AND YOU JUST RECEIVED A NEW FILE, RIGHT? WE, UH, WE HAD TWO RIGHT NOW THAT WE ORDERED BACK A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, AND THEY'RE JUST, RIGHT NOW THEY'RE AT VALLEY FAT WAITING IN, IN LINE TO BE PUT TOGETHER.

SO AND WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GONNA SEE THEM UNTIL AFTER, AFTER, UH, JANUARY NOW.

OKAY, SO YOU HAVE THOSE TWO COMING IN, BUT BEFORE THAT, WHEN WAS THE LAST FLEET INVESTMENT? WHEN WAS THE LAST ONE?

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THEN THERE WAS THE LEASE IN 2019.

OH, I'M SORRY, 2019.

YES, I'M SORRY, 2019.

AND THEN THE ONE BEFORE THEN WAS 2015.

SO NOW BEFORE HIS TIME, WAS THERE ANY INVESTMENT WITH THE PREVIOUS LEADERSHIP OF THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT AND ANY PLOWS OR WAS 2006 THE LAST TIME? ACCORDING TO MY RECORDS HERE, IT GOES BACK TO 2014, 2010.

SO, SO OVER A COUPLE YEARS.

AND HOW MANY DO YOU HAVE IN YOUR FLEET AND HOW MANY DO YOU NEED? WE CURRENTLY, WE HAVE, WE HAVE, UH, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 14 PLOWS, BUT OUT THEM 14, TWO OF THEM, TWO OF THEM ARE SPARES AND WE USE 'EM LIKELY BECAUSE OF THAT.

BECAUSE YOU HAVE 12 FUNCTIONING PLOWS FOR CORRECT, LIKE 200 LANE MILES, 12 FUNCTIONING PLOWS.

UM, FOUR OF THEM, LIKE I SAID, FOUR OF 'EM ARE 2000 SIXES.

SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE AN OLDER FLEET.

AND HOW MANY OF THE, HOW MANY OF YOUR EMPLOYEES, UM, HAVE THEIR CDL LICENSE? WE HAVE 16 DRIVERS RIGHT NOW THAT ARE, ARE, ARE, ARE CERTIFIED DRIVERS, AND OUT OF THAT WE HAVE, UM, FOUR, FOUR LAYERS WITH LICENSES.

TO BE UPGRADE.

BUT YOU HAVE 12 IN YOUR FLEET NOW, ASIDE FROM THE TWO THAT ARE CORRECT.

AN EXPENSE TO MAINTAIN.

LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE STARTING TO GET, STARTING TO GET UP AN AGE AND THEY'RE STARTING TO SHOW, UM, A PLOW ON THE ROAD NOWADAYS TAKES A LOT OF WEAR AND TAIL THERE.

SO IT'S, IT IS A LOT OF USE ON THE TRUCKS.

SO ARE YOU FINDING THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE REPAIRS THAT ARE NEEDED, UM, ARE THEY MOSTLY HAVING TO BE OUTSOURCED? UM, LIKE, UM, A COUPLE SPRINGS, YOU KNOW, BACK SPRINGS, UH, A COUPLE TRANS, WE HAD ONE TRANSMISSION ISSUE.

SO SOME OF THE STUFF WE, WE DO, WE TRY TO DO A HUNDRED PERCENT IN-HOUSE, BUT IT, UH, SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO TAKE OUT BECAUSE OF THE, UH, LIKE THE TRANSMISSION.

OUR GUYS CAN'T DO TRANSMISSION WORK, SO, BUT MOST, MOST OF THE TIME THEY DO EVERYTHING IN-HOUSE.

I HAVE TWO GOOD MECHANICS, VERY GOOD MECHANICS, AND THEY DO, UH, THEY DO A GOOD JOB AND THEY, THEY KEEP THINGS RUNNING.

SO, SORRY, ONE MORE QUESTION.

SO YOU'VE GOT THE 12 THAT ARE WORKING AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE TWO THAT ARE COMING IN THAT YOU'RE WAITING FROM VALLEY FAB.

CORRECT.

HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

AND THE OTHER ONE, WE HAVE A THIRD ONE ON ORDER, BUT UM, IT'S NOT EVEN IN PRODUCTION YET, SO I'M PROBABLY LOOKING AT IT LATE SUMMER NEXT, SO NEXT YEAR.

AND YOU WANT TWO MORE ON TOP OF THAT? NO, ONE MORE THAT.

GOTCHA.

ONE MORE.

NOT TWO, JUST ONE MORE ONE THEN, THEN ONE A YEAR.

THE BOARD.

THE BOARD APPROVED TWO THE FIRST OFF.

AND THEN JANUARY, JANUARY, THIS PAST JANUARY I ORDERED THE THIRD, WHICH WE PROBABLY WON'T GET UNTIL, LIKE I SAID, UNTIL NEXT SUMMER.

AND THE, THE CLERK'S POSITION, SOJI, UH, PERSON WHO'S WORKING ESSENTIALLY OUT OF TITLE IN THE OFFICE, WOULD THEY RETURN TO A LABOR POSITION? YES.

AND THEN THERE WOULD BE A PART-TIME, YOU THINK I HAVE ONE PART-TIMER UP UPFRONT.

19 HOURS.

THE PROBLEM IS RUNNING TO, IS LIKE WHEN, WHEN THAT THE IMMEDIATE PERSON IS ADDING THE PHONE BECAUSE SHE'S OFF, I HAVE TO TRY TO FILL IT IN WITH THE, THE PART-TIMER MM-HMM .

AND SHE ONLY BE DO 19 HOURS.

SO IT GETS KIND OF TOUGH, BUT WE MAKE IT WORK.

I KNOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN SOME DISCUSSION OR IT'S IN THE BUDGET TO ELIMINATE OUR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE OFFICE.

UM, I HAVE A QUESTION.

I, UM, SO WHEN, WHEN WE HAVE THE STORMS, I KNOW IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT SOMETIMES BECAUSE THE DRIVERS HAVE TO HAVE TIME OFF, YOU KNOW? CORRECT.

AND, AND THEY, THEY CAN'T GO, YOU KNOW, BACK TO BACK AND TYPE OF THINGS FOR SAFETY ISSUES ON AVERAGE, WHAT, HOW MUCH DO WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'VE GOT A BIG STORM, HOW MANY PLOWS WITH THE STAFFING WE HAVE, ARE WE ABLE TO HAVE ON THE ROAD DUE TO THE MANPOWER? UM, THE TOWN IS, THE TOWN IS, IS, UH, 40 SQUARE MILES AND, UM, WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR 596 ROADS AND WE CAN BREAK THE TOWN DOWN INTO 12 BOTTLE DURING THE DAYTIME, SEVEN TO THREE, WE HAVE ALL 12 HOURS DURING OVERTIME OR, OR STORM THINGS.

WE HAVE TO COMBINE IN TWO TO TWO PLOW ROOF.

SO WE HAVE SIX PLOWS OUT.

MY GOAL IS DOWN.

AND, AND THEN, AND THEN WHEN WE DO THAT, JUST TO DO THAT, IT TAKES BETWEEN EIGHT TO 10 HOURS TO GET TO THE POUND ONCE.

SO MY GOAL IS TO, DURING THE STORMS IS, IS TO, TO TRY TO GET ONE OR TWO EXTRA PLOWS OUT THERE TO REDUCE THE TIME, THE TURNAROUND TIME TO CLEAR THE ROADS.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SHOOTING FOR.

FOR RIGHT NOW, IT'S SIX, BUT LIKE I SAID, EVENTUALLY I WOULD LIKE TO GET EIGHT OR 10 ON THE ROAD IF I COULD.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANKS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON THE BUDGET? I JUST WANTED TO, IF ONE MORE POINT I WANTED TO MAKE, I,

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UM, AND THERE'S BEEN SOME EXPLANATION GIVEN ON, BUT IT'S PROBABLY IMPORTANT AGAIN FOR THE COMMUNITY TO HEAR THIS, UM, SOME EXPLANATION ON HOW WE WILL, UM, FILL IN THE GAP LEFT THERE.

AND IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT YESTERDAY, OUR STATE COMPTROLLER, UM, THOMAS OLI, HE PUTS OUT, UM, INFORMATION EACH WEEK AND THE FOCUS OF HIS ARTICLE, UH, I CAN MAKE COPIES OR SHARE WITH EVERYONE, IS THAT THE NUMBER OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE VICTIMS RISES IN NEW YORK STATE ACROSS THE STATE, NOT JUST NEW YORK CITY IN 2020 AND SUBSTANTIALLY.

HE GOES THROUGH HIS ARTICLE IN THE INFORMATION THAT HE PROVIDES DETAILING JUST THAT HOW SIGNIFICANTLY THE PERCENTAGE HAS GONE UP THE LAST FEW YEARS.

AND HE ALSO NOTES THE IMPORTANCE OF LOCAL PROGRAMMING TO ADDRESS THESE SITUATIONS.

I THINK WE HAVE DONE A GREAT SERVICE IN OUR COMMUNITY BY HAVING, UM, THE ADDITION OF THE MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELOR IN THROUGH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.

BUT I KNOW WHEN I ASKED THE QUESTION, IF THAT INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS ALREADY TAXED AND ALREADY DOING WONDERFUL THINGS IN OUR COMMUNITY, UM, WHETHER THAT PERSON MIGHT BE EVEN ABSORBING SOME OF WHAT WAS DONE IN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE OFFICE, I KNOW IT WAS INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD NOT UNDERSTANDABLE THERE'S MUCH THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY'RE DOING.

BUT AGAIN, IT BEGS THE QUESTION ARE THE COUNTY SERVICES, I BELIEVE THAT'S THE PLAN TO DIRECT PEOPLE TO COUNTY SERVICES THAT ARE AVAILABLE ALSO.

GREAT, GREAT PROGRAMMING.

UM, THE FAMILY JUSTICE CENTER, I'M FAMILIAR WITH THEIR WORK, THEY DO GREAT WORK, BUT IS THAT TRULY GOING TO FILL THE GAP THAT'S LEFT BY THE ELIMINATION OF THIS OFFICE, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S SO SPECIFICALLY CITED WHAT THE CURRENT NEEDS ARE AND THE FACT THAT THERE'S BEEN SUCH A DRASTIC INCREASE IN, UH, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE INCIDENTS IN OUR AREA, IN ALL AREAS THROUGHOUT THE STATE? WELL, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND UM, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH YOU THAT THAT IS THE RATIONALE BEHIND THAT DECISION IS IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC TO HEAR.

SO I WILL BE, UM, CERTAINLY SPEAKING ABOUT THAT TOPIC DURING MY BUDGET PRESENTATION DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UM, HOWEVER, THERE'S NO REASON THAT WE CAN'T DISCUSS THAT HERE AND NOW.

SO, UH, DUE TO A PERSONNEL SITUATION, WE WERE LEFT WITHOUT A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ADVOCATE AND WE HAD TO WORK VERY HARD TO END VERY QUICKLY, UH, WITH, UH, THE TEAM FROM CSEA AS WELL AS THE COURTS, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, OUR PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCH, UM, AND THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ADVISORY BOARD TO COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO MEET THE NEEDS THAT ARE PRESENTED IN OUR COMMUNITY.

WHAT HAPPENED OVER THE PERIOD OF SEVERAL WEEKS WAS THE TOWN LEARNED OF A ROBUST NETWORK OF SERVICES AVAILABLE TO VICTIMS AND SURVIVORS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE THROUGH NOT-FOR-PROFIT AGENCIES SUCH AS THE FAMILY JUSTICE CENTER AND HAVEN HOUSE.

WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING SINCE THEN? WE'RE NOT REFERRING PEOPLE TO THE COUNTY.

WE ARE REFERRING PEOPLE TO TRAINED DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ADVOCATES THAT ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE CASE MANAGEMENT AND OTHER SUPPORTIVE SERVICES TO THE VICTIMS. WE HAVE MOVED BEYOND OUR INFORMATION AND REFERRAL MODEL TO A ROBUST PROGRAM THAT GIVES PEOPLE THE SERVICES THEY NEED WHEN THEY NEED THEM, AND IT WILL HELP US TO QUANTIFY THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE AS WELL AS THE NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY BY WORKING WITH ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE WELL SUITED TO EVALUATE THOSE NEEDS AND TO QUANTIFY THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE.

WE NOW HAVE OPEN LINES OF COMMUNICATION WITH THOSE NOT-FOR-PROFITS THAT ARE SERVING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE VICTIMS IN HAMBURG.

I ALSO WANT TO CLARIFY FOR THE PUBLIC THAT WE ARE NOT ELIMINATING AN OFFICE THAT'S NOT HAPPENING.

WE TOOK ONE POSITION AWAY FROM THAT OFFICE.

THERE'S A PART-TIME POSITION THAT WILL REMAIN AND WE ALSO HAVE A SET ASIDE FUNDS FOR A CONSULTANT TO HELP THE TOWN FURTHER REFINE OUR PLAN AND OUR PROGRAMMING AROUND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

IT'S A CHALLENGE.

IT'S A BIG CHALLENGE AND IT'S A BIG PROBLEM.

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THE TOWN OF HAMBURG IS WELL SUITED TO ADDRESS IT, AND WE NEED TO DO THAT WITH THE APPROPRIATE AGENCIES AND THE APPROPRIATE TEAM TO GET THAT JOB DONE.

I AM 100% CONFIDENT IN THE TEAM THAT IS LEFT BEHIND IN OUR PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCH OFFICE IN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND IN OUR COURTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MEET THE NEED.

I WOULD PREDICT THAT NOT ONLY WILL WE MEET THE NEED, BUT WE WILL SERVE THE CLIENTS BETTER UNDER THIS NEW MODEL THAN WE DID IN A MODEL THAT BROUGHT NO ACCOUNTABILITY TO THAT OFFICE.

I'D LIKE TO JUST ADD SOME FEEDBACK THERE.

UM, I'M A LIAISON TO THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE DEPARTMENT, ALSO LIAISON TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD VARIOUS CONVERSATIONS, UH, BETH, REGARDING THE CHALLENGE THAT WE HAD FACED AND HAD SHARED A LOT OF INFORMATION WITH THE BOARD AS FAR AS THE APPROACH MOVING FORWARD.

UM, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY, BUT I'VE ALSO BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE LEADERSHIP AND COURTS AND WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEY ARE, THEY'RE HAPPY AND AND CONFIDENT IN THE WAY THAT VICTIMS AND SURVIVORS ARE BEING, UM, COMMUNICATED WITH AND BEING SET UP WITH RESOURCES, UM, GIVEN THE APPROACH THAT WE'VE HAD TO TAKE AND IN LIGHT OF THE ABSENCE OF AN ADVOCATE.

SO, UM, I JUST TALKED TO, TO BOTH TODAY AND THEY'RE VERY CONFIDENT ALSO MOVING FORWARD.

ANYTHING ELSE ON BUDGET? I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR THE ATTORNEY.

UM, CERTAINLY NOT, NOT, NOT TO ANSWER NOW, BUT UM, TO DO A LITTLE HOMEWORK OR JUST TO KIND OF GET BACK TO ME AT SOME POINT AND, AND POSSIBLY THE PUBLIC.

THERE'S OTHER CONCERNS, UM, BUT IN THE FIRE, UH, RENEWAL CONTRACT IT STATES THE TERMS OF THE ABOVE CONTRACT SHALL BE FOR A PERIOD OF ONE YEAR WITH THE PRIVILEGE OF RENEWAL OR ADDITIONAL YEAR TERMS AS PROVIDED IN AND UNDER THE CONDITIONS STATED IN EACH CONTRACT, UH, FULL OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD AND GIVEN.

UM, SO I JUST, UM, OBVIOUSLY IT'S A HUGE LEGAL DOCUMENT, SO IF YOU COULD HELP US AND JUST KIND OF AT SOME POINT SUMMARIZE WHAT THAT WOULD ENTAIL, OF COURSE.

ALRIGHT, THANKS.

ALRIGHT.

IF THERE'S NOTHING FURTHER, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS PERSONNEL MATTERS AND PENDING LITIGATION.

SECOND MOTION.

MR. SECOND, MY COMPLIMENT COUNTY ON AYE.

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OF THE HENRY TOWN BOARD TO ORDER.

UH, PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE BUDGET.

ALL RIGHT.

I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE CLERK FOR THE CALLING.

LAW SUPERVISOR HO PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER HO PRESENT.

COUNCIL MEMBER LEY PRESENT.

COUNCIL MEMBER BERG PRESENT.

COUNCIL MEMBER ETTE PRESENT.

OKAY, WE HAVE A VERY FULL AGENDA WITH, UH, A COUPLE OF PUBLIC HEARINGS, A FEW PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE DOCKET TONIGHT.

SO I'D LIKE TO FIRST GO OVER, UH, WHAT THE GAME PLAN IS FOR THIS EVENING.

UH, WE'RE GOING TO GET THROUGH THIS, THIS AGENDA, INCLUDING THE PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA ONCE WE START THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, AND WE'LL GIVE YOU PLENTY OF NOTICE AS TO WHEN, WHAT THOSE PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE.

UM, YOU WILL BE INVITED TO COME TO THE FRONT OF THE ROOM AND SIGN OFF TO SPEAK FOR THOSE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

FOR THOSE PUBLIC HEARINGS, WE ASK THAT YOU KEEP YOUR REMARKS TO FIVE OR TO THREE MINUTES TO THREE MINUTES.

THIS IS NOT MY RULE.

THIS IS WHAT THE TOWN OF HAMBURG HAS BEEN DOING FOR A LONG TIME, AS WELL AS NEIGHBORING MUNICIPALITIES.

THREE MINUTES PER PERSON.

YOUR THREE MINUTES ARE NON-TRANSFERABLE.

SO IF SOMEBODY'S TALKING, YOU LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND YOU'RE LATER ON THE LIST AND YOU SAY, I WANNA GIVE THEM MY TIME, NO, THAT'S NOT HOW THIS WORKS.

EVERYBODY GETS THREE MINUTES AT THE THREE MINUTE MARK.

I'M GONNA TELL YOU THAT WE'RE AT THREE MINUTES AND WE WOULD ASK YOU OUT OF RESPECT FOR THE TOWN BOARD AS WELL AS THE PEOPLE, THE AUDIENCE THAT YOU WRAP UP YOUR MARKS AS CLOSE TO THE THREE MINUTE MARK AS YOU CAN AT FIVE MINUTES.

I'LL GIVE YOU A REMINDER.

HOPEFULLY IT DOESN'T GO MUCH BEYOND THAT.

WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT, I'M SURE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD.

UM, ONCE WE GET THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, WE WILL THEN MOVE ON TO PUBLIC EXPRESSION.

THIS IS AFTER THE AGENDA IS COMPLETED, THE PUBLIC HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE BOARD.

WE'LL INVITE YOU TO AGAIN, SIGN UP AGAIN, THREE MINUTES AGAIN, NON-TRANSFERABLE.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO, UH, ASK PEOPLE

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TO USE THE PODIUM THAT IS UP HERE.

WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU TO ADDRESS THE BOARD DIRECTLY.

YOU'RE SPEAKING TO THE TOWN BOARD, NOT TO THE AUDIENCE.

AFTER THE PUBLIC EXPRESSION IS OVER, WE WILL THEN HAVE REPORTS FROM DEPARTMENT HEADS AND THEN FINALLY, WE WILL HAVE REPORTS FROM THE TOWN BOARD.

PUBLIC EXPRESSION IS THE TIME FOR YOU TO SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS, IDEAS, AND ASK QUESTIONS OF THE TOWN BOARD.

IT IS NOT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR BACK AND FORTH CONVERSATION.

THESE TOWN BOARD MEMBERS WILL BE HERE AFTER THE MEETING AND WE ARE ACCESSIBLE THROUGHOUT THE WEEK FOR ONE-ON-ONE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT ISSUES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO YOU.

THE TOWN BOARD WILL LIKELY RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS OR STATEMENTS THAT YOU MAKE DURING PUBLIC EXPRESSION DURING THEIR REPORTS FROM THE BOARDS.

WE ALSO, UM, IF YOU'RE A STUDENT HERE TONIGHT WITH A PIECE OF PAPER THAT NEEDS TO BE SIGNED, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

LOOK AT ALL THESE STUDENTS HERE, FOLKS.

SO I'M TELLING YOU GUYS PICK THE WRONG MEETING TO COME TODAY, BUT, BUT WHAT WE CAN OFFER YOU IS WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TOWN BUDGET.

SO THIS IS A PRETTY BIG DEAL.

WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE TOWN BUDGET.

PEOPLE ARE THEN GOING TO MAKE COMMENTS AND ASK QUESTIONS.

AND HONESTLY, THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA TAKE US TO ABOUT EIGHT O'CLOCK, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LATER THAN THAT.

SO AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CONCLUDED, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN WE'LL VOTE ON IT.

ONCE THAT'S OVER, INVITE YOU TO COME UP TO SEE CLERK REPINSKI.

SHE'LL QUIETLY ASK HER TO SIGN YOUR PAPER AND YOU CAN BE ON YOUR WAY.

WE'RE NOT GONNA KEEP YOU HERE UNTIL 10, 11 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT.

SOUNDS LIKE A DEAL, STUDENTS.

ALRIGHT, UM, SO WE'LL GET RIGHT INTO THE AGENDA, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD DOES HEREBY APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING AS FOLLOWS, REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING OCTOBER 2ND, 2023.

SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMAN COMING THROUGH SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HOKA IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

TO REACH 75% OF WHAT IS REFERRED TO AS THE NET WIN.

I'LL READ THE LEGAL NOTICE FOR, UH, ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN THAT THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING JANUARY 1ST, 2024, HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND FILED IN THE OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK, 6,100 SOUTH PARK AVENUE, HAMBURG, NEW YORK, WHERE IT IS AVAILABLE FOR INSPECTION BY ANY INTERESTED PERSON DURING BUSINESS HOURS 9:00 AM TO 5:00 PM EASTERN MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

ADDITIONALLY, AN EXEMPTION REPORT IS ALSO AVAILABLE FOR INSPECTION.

FURTHER NOTICES HEREBY GIVEN THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, PURSUANT TO SECTION 1 21 B ONE OF THE STATE AND LOCAL FISCAL ASSISTANCE ACT OF 1972 AS AMENDED AND ALL OTHER APPLICABLE STATUTES WILL MEET AND REVIEW SET PRELIMINARY BUDGET AND HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING THERE ON HAMPER TOWN HALL 6,100 SOUTH PARK AVENUE HAMPER NEW YORK AT 7:00 PM LOCAL TIME ON OCTOBER 23RD, 2023.

AND THAT AT SUCH HEARING, ANY PERSON MAY BE HEARD IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET AS COMPILE COMPILED AND FOR OR AGAINST ANY ITEMS THEREIN CONTAINED PURSUANT TO SECTION 1 0 8 OF THE TOWN LAW, THE PROPOSED SALARIES OF THE FOLLOWING TOWN OFFICERS ARE HEREBY SPECIFIED AS FOLLOWS.

SUPERVISOR, 87,547, COUNCILMAN FOUR EACH 20,479 TOWN CLERK, 81,947 HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENT, 86,634 TOWN JUSTICES TO EACH AT $63,285 BY ORDER THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG DATED OCTOBER 2ND, 2023.

SO WE WILL BEGIN OUR PUBLIC HEARING WITH A BUDGET PRESENTATION THAT I WILL BEGIN IN JUST A MOMENT.

SO I HAVE ABOUT 20 SLIDES TO GO THROUGH.

THIS IS GOING TO DETAIL MUCH OF THE BUDGET.

AFTER THIS PRESENTATION IS CONCLUDED, YOU'LL BE INVITED TO, UH, COME UP, ASK QUESTIONS, SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE TOWN BUDGET.

IF YOU KNOW YOU'RE GONNA TALK ANYWAYS AND YOU WANT TO COME AND SIGN UP, GET YOUR NAME AT THE TOP OF THE LIST, YOU CAN DO THAT UP HERE TO MY LEFT, TO YOUR RIGHT.

SO FIRST I'M GONNA TAKE YOU THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS.

SO THINGS REALLY GET STARTED WITH THE BUDGET PROCESS IN JULY WHEN REQUESTS ARE SENT TO EACH DEPARTMENT HEAD

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IN AUGUST.

THOSE DEPARTMENTAL REQUESTS ARE DUE TO THE TOWN SUPERVISOR.

AND THEN I REVIEWED AND EVALUATED IN EARLY SEPTEMBER.

WE HOLD MEETINGS WITH EACH DEPARTMENT HEAD TO DISCUSS THEIR BUDGET REQUESTS.

AND IN AUGUST TO MID-SEPTEMBER, THAT'S WHEN WE CALCULATE THE PAYROLLS, UH, BENEFITS LIKE HEALTH INSURANCE, RETIREMENT, DEBT SERVICE.

WE ESTIMATE, UH, REVENUES, WHAT TYPE OF MONEY ARE WE GONNA BE TAKING IN SALES TAX, MORTGAGE TAX, UH, PROPERTY TAX AND SO FORTH.

SO WE PUT ALL THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER IN MID-SEPTEMBER, WE BEGIN TO COMPLETE BUDGETS FOR EACH OF THE VARIOUS TOWN FUNKS.

AND WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH WHAT THOSE ARE SHORTLY.

WE DETERMINE THE TAX RATE IMPLICATIONS AND THEN MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS.

THIS YEAR WE STARTED THAT PROCESS AND, UH, PAT AND KIM GAVE US OUR FIRST ROUND OF PROPERTY TAX RATE INCREASES.

THAT WAS WELL NORTH OF 25%.

UM, WE CERTAINLY MADE MANY ADJUSTMENTS TO GET TO, TO WHERE WE ARE BY SEPTEMBER 30TH.

THE SUPERVISOR SUBMITS THEIR, THEIR BUDGET AND I WAS ABLE TO SUBMIT THAT, I THINK AROUND SEPTEMBER 27TH PERHAPS.

UM, AND THEN OCTOBER 23RD TONIGHT, WE HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, CONSIDER ANY COMMENTS, AND THEN THE TOWN BOARD HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS.

SO LAST YEAR THE SUPERVISOR'S BUDGET WAS PROPOSED AT 1.95% TAX INCREASE, UM, A STROKE OF LUCK.

WE WERE ABLE TO, TO IDENTIFY SOME, UH, EXCESSIVE EXPENSES THAT WERE INDICATING THE BUDGET, REMOVE THEM FROM THE BUDGET, AND BRING THAT PROPERTY TAX INCREASE TO 0%.

SO OUR HOPE IS THAT WE CAN COME DOWN FROM THE 2.9% FIGURE, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE'RE STARTING.

FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE PUBLIC BUDGET PRESENTATION BEFORE NOVEMBER 20TH, WE HAVE TO ADOPT AND SUBMIT THE BUDGET TO ERIE COUNTY.

THESE ARE THE FUNDS WITHIN THE BUDGET.

WE HAVE A GENERAL FUND, HOW FUND TOWN OUTSIDE VILLAGE FUND, INSURANCE RESERVE FUND, AS WELL AS SPECIAL DISTRICTS FOR SEWER, WATER, FIRE PROTECTION, STREET LIGHTING AND HYDRANTS.

I THINK THESE FUNDS ARE RELATIVELY SELF-EXPLANATORY AND THERE'S CERTAIN REVENUE THAT CAN FUND CERTAIN FUNDS.

UM, AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON THAT, PATCH A OR MYSELF WOULD BE HAPPY TO, TO GO ON A DEEPER DIVE WITH YOU ON THOSE ISSUES.

THE COMPONENTS OF THE BUDGET ARE ESTIMATED REVENUES, HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE GONNA BE BRINGING IN AND WHEN, WHAT ARE APPROPRIATIONS.

SO THAT IS HOW ARE WE SPENDING THE MONEY THAT THE TOWN TAKES IN.

AND THEN APPROPRIATED FUND BALANCE, WHICH IN SIMPLE TERMS IS THE TOWN'S SAVINGS AT THE END OF THE YEAR.

THERE'S CERTAIN FUNDS LEFT OVER AND TOWNS ARE ENCOURAGED TO MAINTAIN WHAT'S CONSIDERED A HEALTHY FUND BALANCE.

TAXPAYERS ARE LOOKING AT THE FUND BALANCE, BUT ALSO THE BOND MARKETS ARE LOOKING AT THE FUND BALANCE.

AND IF THEY SEE A DECREASE IN THE FUND BALANCE OVER TIME, THAT'S A RED FLAG AND YOUR BOND RATING COULD GO DOWN.

AND THEN OF COURSE, THE TAX LEVY, THAT'S A TOTAL AMOUNT RAISED BY PROPERTY TAXES IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG.

AND WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GONNA DIG DEEPER INTO THAT LATER IN THE PRESENTATION.

I WANNA TALK ABOUT SOME BUDGET CHALLENGES.

SO THESE ARE SOME HITS TO OUR REVENUE, ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS HIT TO OUR MORTGAGE TAX REVENUE.

WHEN YOU BUY A HOUSE, THERE'S A CERTAIN TAX YOU PAY WHEN YOU HAVE A MORTGAGE.

AND, UH, BECAUSE OF THE INCREASE IN THE, UM, IN THE INTEREST RATES, UH, FOLKS HAVE NOT BEEN GETTING MORTGAGES, BUYING PROPERTY AT THE RATE THAT THEY PREVIOUSLY HAD BEEN.

WHILE THE MARKET IN HAMBURG IS STRONG AND HOME VALUES ARE SOLID, THE FREQUENCY OF TRANSACTIONS HAS GONE DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY.

WE'VE ALSO LOST SOME, SOME STATE AID.

AND AS A TOWN GOVERNMENT, WE HAVE LIMITED DEPARTMENTAL REVENUE OPPORTUNITIES.

THAT'S JUST A FANCY WAY OF SAYING THAT WE DON'T WANNA RAISE THE FEES ON OUR PROGRAM.

WE DON'T WANNA RAISE GREENS FEES BY DOUBLE OR TRIPLE TO BALANCE A BUDGET.

NOBODY WOULD GOLF.

THERE'S A LIMITED TOLERANCE FOR THOSE TYPES OF REVENUE IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG.

FURTHER ON OUR BUTTER CHA BUDGET CHALLENGES THE, WE HAVE DOWN THE STREET, THE HAMBURG, UH, GAMING.

AT THE BUFFALO RACEWAY, THERE WAS A, A FORMULA AND A PLAN FOR LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES

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AND THAT WOULD'VE BROUGHT $2.15 MILLION TO THE TOWN OF HAMBURG.

HOWEVER, NEW YORK STATE, UH, HAS EXERCISED DIFFERENT PLANS FOR THAT.

AND OUR ESTIMATED 2024 VIDEO LOTTERY TERMINAL REVENUE IS $865,679.

IT'S BEEN STUCK THERE FOR A FEW YEARS.

UM, HOWEVER, WE BRING THIS SLIDE UP EVERY YEAR BECAUSE WE MAINTAIN THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A BIGGER SHARE OF THE PROCEEDS FROM WHAT'S GOING ON DOWN THE STREET, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO LOBBY STATE GOVERNMENT TO GET THERE.

ADDITIONAL CHALLENGES, WE HAVE SOME CONTINUED HIGH COSTS OF HEALTH INSURANCE LAST YEAR.

WE HAD A BREAK THE YEARS BEFORE THAT WERE VERY HIGH.

THAT MARKET FLUCTUATES SIGNIFICANTLY, AND WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT, AS WELL AS THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM COSTS AND OUR SALARY AND PERSONNEL COSTS, AS WELL AS INCREASING UTILITY COSTS.

I'M SURE THIS IS NOT NEWS TO ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM WITH INFLATION AND OTHER FACTORS.

THE GENERAL FUND IS REALLY MADE UP PREDOMINANTLY.

THESE ARE, THESE ARE OUR SOURCES OF REVENUE.

OUR BIGGEST SOURCE OF REVENUE IS REAL PROPERTY TAXES.

60% OF OUR BUDGET IS PROPERTY TAXES.

WE ALSO GET A GOOD AMOUNT FROM, UH, DEPARTMENTAL CHARGES AND FEES.

THAT'S 20%.

THAT COULD BE RECREATION PROGRAMMING, THAT COULD BE PROCEEDS FROM, UH, TRAFFIC TICKETS AND SO FORTH.

IT'S A BIG CHUNK OF WHAT WE TAKE IN.

UH, FINES AND FORFEITURES.

2%, UH, INTERFUND REVENUES APPROPRIATE FUND BALANCE.

THOSE ARE MONEY MOVING WITHIN THE, THE FUNDS OF THE BUDGET.

THE VLT REVENUE, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, FEDERAL AND STATE AID INTERESTS AND OTHER INCOME.

AND WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT ALL THOSE DIRECT PRESENTATIONS.

THIS SHOWS WHAT OUR APPROPRIATIONS ARE.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE, THE BIGGEST CHUNK HERE, IT'S EMPLOYEE BENEFITS, HEALTH INSURANCE AND, AND RETIREMENT, UH, PERSONNEL COSTS.

SALARY IS BAKED INTO ALL OF THESE SLICES OF THE PIE.

PUBLIC SAFETY IS A BIG PIECE OF WHAT THE TOWN SPENDS OUR MONEY ON.

PUBLIC SAFETY IS OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT IS ALSO OUR PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCH, AND WE'RE GONNA DIG DOWN INTO THOSE NUMBERS A LITTLE BIT LATER.

TRANSPORTATION, ECONOMIC ASSISTANCE, OPPORTUNITY, CULTURE AND RECREATION.

GENERAL GOVERNMENTAL SUPPORT, SOME DEBT SERVICE.

THAT'S WHAT MAKES UP OUR EXPENDITURES.

I THOUGHT IT'D BE HELPFUL TO PUT THE TAX RATE INTO CONTEXT OVER A 10 YEAR HISTORY.

WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT WHAT MAKES UP YOUR, YOUR TAX BILL, BUT AS HOMEOWNERS, AS AS PROPERTY TAX PAYERS, YOU'RE LIKELY PAYING TAXES TO MOST OF THESE LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT.

AT THE TOP OF THE LIST.

AT THE HIGHEST RATE IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG IS THE HAMBURG SCHOOL DISTRICT.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE INCREASE IT'S BEEN HIGHER THAN THE OTHER ONES FROM 2015 TO 2024 IN WHAT YOUR PROPERTY TAXES GO TO IN THE HAMBURG SCHOOL DISTRICT.

NE NEXT UNDER HAMBURG IS FRONTIER.

YOU CAN ALSO SEE, UH, SIGNIFICANT INCREASE OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS.

THE INCREASE FOR THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURG, AS WELL AS THE VILLAGE OF BLAZEDALE IS STILL AN INCREASE, UH, BUT NOT AS, NOT AS DRAMATIC.

I WOULDN'T SAY ANY OF THESE ARE NECESSARILY DRAMATIC.

UM, NOBODY LIKES TO SEE THEIR PROPERTY TAXES GO UP, BUT WHEN WE GET TO THE VILLAGE LEVEL, THEY'VE REMAINED A LITTLE BIT STEADIER.

WHEN YOU GET TO THE COUNTY AND THE TOWN, UM, THOSE ARE, ARE EVEN STEADIER AND THE LOWEST ON THE CHART.

THIS SLIDE, I APOLOGIZE, IT'S IN REVERSE ORDER.

SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO REVIEW THIS FROM LEFT TO RIGHT, PLEASE READJUST, VIEW IT FROM RIGHT TO LEFT.

I COULDN'T GET IT TO GO THE OTHER WAY.

UM, BUT ANYWAYS, WHAT THIS SHOWS IS THE TAX RATE VERSUS INFLATION.

I THINK THESE LINES ARE, ARE A LITTLE CONCERNING AND, AND SHOW WHERE THE TOWN HAS BEEN AND I HOPE WHERE THE TOWN IS GOING.

SO THE GREEN LINE, THAT'S THE TOTAL TAX RATE.

YOU SEE A DRAMATIC INCREASE FROM 2015 TO 2016.

I THINK THAT WAS ABOUT A 7% JUMP BACK THEN.

INFLATION WAS RELATIVELY STABLE DURING THOSE TIMES.

THE TOWN HAD MUCH MORE REASONABLE TAX INCREASES GOING INTO 2017 AND 2018 AROUND THE 3%

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AND THEN IN 2019, THEY WERE ABLE TO BRING THE RATE DOWN TO IT WAS ACTUALLY A 0.1% REDUCTION IN THE PROPERTY TAX RATE.

AND THEN SOME MODEST INCREASES GOING INTO 20 20, 20 21, 20 22.

AND AS I MENTIONED LAST YEAR, WE'RE ABLE TO GET THAT RATE DOWN TO ZERO FOR 2023 FOR THIS YEAR'S PROPERTY TAXES.

2024.

AS YOU'RE AWARE, THE TOWN SUPERVISOR'S BUDGET CALLS FOR A 2.9% TAX INCREASE NEXT YEAR DURING THIS PRESENTATION.

THIS SLIDE WILL BE UPDATED.

IT COULD BE AT 2.9 OR IT COULD BE LOWER.

OR IF THE BOARD DECIDES TO ADD MORE POSITIONS AND PROGRAMS, IT COULD BE HIGHER.

BUT THAT'S WHERE WE ARE TONIGHT FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND DISCUSSION.

THESE NEXT FEW SLIDES ARE GONNA GIVE YOU IDEA OF WHERE YOUR PROPERTY TAXES GO.

IF YOU LIVE IN THE HAMBURG SCHOOL DISTRICT, 65% OF YOUR PROPERTY TAX BILL GOES TO THE SCHOOLS.

18% OF YOUR BILL GOES TO THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, AND 17% GOES TO THE COUNTY OF ERIE.

IF YOU LIVE IN THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURG, 52% OF YOUR TAX BILL GOES TO SCHOOLS, 28% GOES TO VILLAGE GOVERNMENT, 13% GOES TO ERIE COUNTY, AND 7% GOES TO THE TOWN OF HAMBURG.

IF YOU LIVE IN THE FRONTIER SCHOOL DISTRICT, THAT, UH, 58% GOES TO THE SCHOOL, 22% TO THE TOWN AND 20% TO THE COUNTY.

AND IF YOU LIVE IN THE VILLAGE OF BLAZEDALE, THAT SCHOOL SHARE GOES DOWN TO 45%.

THE VILLAGE SHARE AT 31%, THE COUNTY AT 16%, AND THE TOWN AT 8%.

THAT'S WHAT YOUR PROPERTY TAX BILL LOOKS LIKE WHEN YOU ROUND OUT THOSE PERCENTAGES.

I'VE SHARED SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE IN THIS BUDGET, AND THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES.

WE BELIEVE WE'RE MEETING THIS CHALLENGE WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC SAFETY.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST INCREASES AND BIGGEST EXPENDITURES IN THIS BUDGET IS OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.

IN 2021, THE DEPARTMENT BUDGET WAS AROUND 8.5 MILLION.

WE SAW A SLIGHT REDUCTION IN 2022 THAT WAS DUE IN LARGE PART TO SOME RETIREMENTS OF SOME LONGER TERM OFFICERS THAT WERE REPLACED BY, UH, NEWER OFFICERS WHO WEREN'T AS HIGH ON THE PAY SCALE.

IN 2023, WE SAW AN INCREASE TO ABOUT 8.6 MILLION.

AND IN 2024, WE'RE LOOKING AT AN INCREASE TO 9.6 MILLION.

NOW, SOME OF THOSE ARE ITEMS THAT THE TOWN HAS, UM, SOME CONTROL OVER, AND SOME ARE ITEMS THAT WE DON'T HAVE MUCH CONTROL OVER.

THE RAISES FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS ARE NEGOTIATED THROUGH A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT WITH THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD.

SO THOSE NUMBERS GO IN IN JULY AND AUGUST, AND THEY ARE WHAT THEY ARE, WE'RE CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED TO PAY OUR OFFICERS WHAT WE NEGOTIATE IN THE CONTRACT.

WE DID ADD AN ADDITIONAL OFFICER TO THE BUDGET.

THE CHIEF RECOGNIZED AN OPPORTUNITY WITH A FRESH CIVIL SERVICE LIST AS WELL AS THE ACADEMY STARTING IN AUGUST.

AND A VERY COMPETITIVE JOB MARKET WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, FINDING OFFICERS.

SO WHAT, UH, WE AUTHORIZE THE CHIEF TO GO AHEAD AND HIRE AN EXTRA OFFICER, AND THAT OFFICER REMAINS FOR IN THE BUDGET.

UH, NEXT YEAR.

UH, THEY ALSO, AND ABOUT 750,000 OF THIS MILLION DOLLAR INCREASE IS IN PERSONNEL COSTS.

UM, THE REMAINING IS SOME ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT AND, AND OTHER ODDS AND ENDS.

UM, BUT, UH, HAMBURG CERTAINLY, UH, PACE POLICE NOT ONLY LIKE OUR LIVES DEPEND ON IT, BUT THAT OUR CHILDREN'S LIVES DEPEND ON IT, AND IT'S A VERY BIG PIECE OF OUR BUDGET.

HEALTH INSURANCE, AS WE MENTIONED EARLIER, TOWN OF HAMBURG EMPLOYEES, UH, ENJOY, UH, VERY RICH HEALTH INSURANCE PLANS.

ALSO NEGOTIATED IN THE CONTRACT IN THE, UH, COLLECTIVE BARGAINING, UH, AGREEMENTS.

UM, BUT OUR TOTAL COST AND, AND THIS IS A TOTAL COST OF NOT ONLY OUR ACTIVE EMPLOYEES, BUT ALSO OUR RETIRED EMPLOYEES WHO ALSO ENJOY HEALTH INSURANCE WELL INTO RETIREMENT.

YOU CAN SEE IN 2020 IT REALLY PEAKED PRETTY HIGH AROUND THE 7 MILLION.

IN 2023, WE REALIZED SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS IN OUR HEALTH INSURANCE COSTS.

THAT WASN'T

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EASY.

THAT INVOLVED NEGOTIATION WITH THE, UH, WITH OUR HEALTH INSURANCE BROKER, HEALTH INSURANCE PROVIDERS, AND IT REQUIRED THE APPROVAL OF ALL OF OUR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING UNITS.

SO THAT REDUCTION IN 2023 WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED IF IT WASN'T FOR THE HELP AND COOPERATION OF OUR UNIONS WITH THE TOWN BOARD.

SO WE'RE ABLE TO BRING SOME SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS.

UM, THIS YEAR WE'RE LOOKING AT, AT AN INCREASE OF ABOUT FIVE TO 6%, UH, ACROSS ALL OF OUR HEALTH INSURANCE.

THAT'S, THAT'S HEALTH INSURANCE, THAT'S A VISION.

THAT'S DENTAL.

UM, AND WE'RE SEEING INCREASES.

UM, IT CERTAINLY COULD BE WORSE.

WE ARE FAR LOWER THAN THE 2020 LEVELS.

UM, BUT IT DID BRING A LITTLE BIT OF PRESSURE TO THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.

WE ALSO GOT HIT HARD GOING INTO 2024 WITH RETIREMENT COSTS.

SO TOWN EMPLOYEES, OUR, UH, OUR OUR TOWN EMPLOYEES AS WELL AS THE THE POLICE OFFICERS ARE MEMBERS OF THE NEW YORK STATE RETIREMENT SYSTEM.

THE NEW YORK STATE RETIREMENT SYSTEM IS FUNDED BY EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS AS WELL AS MUNICIPAL CONTRIBUTIONS.

THE EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS, DEPENDING ON WHAT TIER YOU'RE IN, REMAIN THE SAME.

YOU MIGHT PAY 3% OF YOUR SALARY INTO RETIREMENT.

YOU MAY PAY 0% OF YOUR SALARY INTO YOUR RETIREMENT.

IT DEPENDS ON WHEN YOU WERE HIRED AND WHEN YOU ENTERED THE SYSTEM.

THE TOWN SIDE IS NOT CONSISTENT AND FLUCTUATES AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, BASED PRIMARILY ON HOW WELL THE STOCK MARKET IS DOING, WHICH IS WHERE THE PENSION FUNDS ARE INVESTED.

SO AGAIN, THAT PEAKED IN 2022.

WE SAW A LITTLE BIT OF A DECREASE IN 2023, BUT 2024, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 11% IN THE TOWNS BILL WHEN IT COMES TO RETIREMENTS.

AND THIS IS THE, THE RATE THAT WE PAY.

SO THE ERS, THAT'S JUST A REGULAR, UM, RETIREMENT SYSTEM FOR THE STATE AND LOCAL EMPLOYEES.

AND THE PFRS, THE RED LINE THAT'S POLICE AND FIRE RETIREMENT SYSTEM, UM, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT MORE, A LITTLE BIT MORE COSTLY.

UM, BUT YOU SEE THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE PRETTY CONSISTENT.

AND IF YOU OVERLAY THE GRAPH OF STOCK MARKET PERFORMANCE, YOU, YOU WOULD PROBABLY SEE THE, SEE THE CONNECTION.

SALARY AND PERSONNEL COSTS ARE A BIG PART OF OUR BUDGET.

IT'S PEOPLE THAT MAKE TOWN GOVERNMENT WORK.

THE TOWN OF HAMBURG HAS, UH, COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS WITH CSEA, THE INITIAL NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF FIREFIGHTERS, THE HAMBURG PTA, WHICH IS OUR PATROL OFFICERS, OUR COMMAND OFFICERS, WHICH IS THE LEADERSHIP OF THE DEPARTMENT.

THESE UNIONS HAVE NEGOTIATED SALARY INCREASES FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES THAT RANGE FROM ABOUT 2% TO 4% IN 2024.

IN 2023, THE TOWN WAS ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY NEGOTIATE THREE CONTRACTS, THE IAFF, WHICH IS OUR PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCH, THE LEAST BENEVOLENT ASSOCIATION FOR A ONE YEAR EXTENSION, AS WELL AS THE CSCA BLUE COLLAR UNIT.

THIS NEXT GRAPH IS SOMETHING THAT'S NEW TO THE BUDGET BUDGET PRESENTATION, BUT A VERY SIGNIFICANT EXPENSE THAT HITS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG.

MANY OF OUR EMPLOYEES, UM, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO ENJOY A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT, ARE ENTITLED TO CERTAIN PAYOUTS ON RETIREMENT THAT MIGHT BE VACATION TIME OR SICK TIME, OR OTHER COMPENSATION THAT FOLKS ARE ONLY ELIGIBLE FOR UPON RETIREMENT IN 2022 AND 2023, THESE RETIREMENT PAYOUTS TOTALED $915,127, AND THAT WAS SPREAD ACROSS 23 EMPLOYEES PER AN AVERAGE OF ABOUT $39,788 PER RETIREE UPON RETIREMENT.

I BROKE IT DOWN, UH, BY, BY DEPARTMENT.

THAT BLUE LINE, THAT'S A TOTAL PER DEPARTMENT.

SO POLICE WAS JUST UNDER A HUNDRED THOUSAND, BUT THE AVERAGE PAYOUT WAS PROBABLY CLOSER TO ABOUT 30, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT ALL ALONG THE LINE.

UM, EACH OF THESE DEPARTMENTS THAT I MENTIONED HAD AT LEAST THREE PEOPLE THAT RETIRED THE COLUMN THAT IS OTHER, UH, THAT WAS, I AGGREGATED THAT AMONG THREE DEPARTMENTS, THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT, THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, AND THE ASSESSING DEPARTMENT BECAUSE IT WAS JUST ONE OR TWO

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IN EACH DEPARTMENT THAT WE'RE RETIRING.

WE BELIEVE IT'S THE HAMRICK TOWN BOARD'S RESPONSIBILITY TO BRING ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE BUDGET PROCESS TO BRING ACCOUNTABILITY TO OUR DEPARTMENTS.

AND THIS IS A SLIDE THAT HIGHLIGHTS WHAT ACCOUNTABILITY IN DEPARTMENTS CAN BRING THE TOWN.

AND IN THE TAXPAYER.

PRIOR TO 2022, THE TOWN HAD A SELF-ADMITTED ACCOUNTABILITY PROBLEM IN OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT.

I WAS ABLE TO BRING IN NEW LEADERSHIP TO OUR DEPARTMENT, AND THE DEPARTMENT RESPONDED WELL TO THAT LEADERSHIP.

SHORTLY AFTER MR. S STARTED IN HIS ROLE, COUNCIL MEMBER CONLEY AND MYSELF MET WITH MR. SHEA TO LOOK AT OUR INVESTMENT STRATEGY.

SO A LOT OF THE MONEY THAT WE GET COMES ON ONE DAY.

IT MIGHT BE WHEN PROPERTY TAXES ARE DUE.

IT MIGHT BE WHEN, UH, THE SALES TAX COMES IN OR THE MORTGAGE TAX.

IT'S NOT A DAILY UPDATE, SO WE'LL GET A BIG CHUNK OF CASH AT ONE POINT IN TIME.

AND UP UNTIL MR. SHE'S TENURE, THAT MONEY WAS PUT INTO THE TOWN'S SAVINGS ACCOUNT AT M AND T BANK AND ENJOYED VERY LITTLE INTEREST AT A TIME WHEN PEOPLE WEREN'T PAYING A LOT OF INTEREST.

ANYWAYS, UH, MR. CONLEY'S SUGGESTION TO EMPLOY A LADDERED APPROACH TO SAFE MUNICIPAL INVESTMENTS, UM, RESULTED IN A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN REVENUE IN THE TOWN.

IN 2022, WE HAD BUDGETED $30,000 IN INVESTMENT REVENUE, AND WE CAME IN PROBABLY JUST AROUND 30,000 BUCKS.

IN 2023, WE STARTED TO USE SOME OF THESE INVESTMENT VEHICLES, BUT WE HAD BUDGETED FOR 2023, 50,000, AND WE CAME IN WELL OVER THAT.

IN 2023, WE EXPECT TO BRING IN $1.2 MILLION.

AND I ACTUALLY HEARD A REPORT FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CONLEY, UH, BEFORE THIS MEETING THAT IT COULD BE CLOSER TO $1.4 MILLION.

NOW, THE TOWN HAS BEEN FORTUNATE TO HAVE A LOT OF CASH ON HAND.

UM, A LOT OF IT CAME FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THROUGH COVID AND, AND ARPA.

SO OUR CASH ON HAND IS, IS SLOWLY GOING DOWN.

WE'RE TAKING A VERY CONSERVATIVE APPROACH TO OUR, UH, ANTICIPATED INVESTMENT REVENUE IN 2024 AT $450,000.

THIS 1.4 MILLION IS GONNA GO A LONG WAY IN MAKING UP FOR THE $1 MILLION SHORTFALL IN THE MORTGAGE TAX.

IF IT WASN'T FOR THE FORESIGHT OF MR. SHEA AND MR. CONLEY, WE'D BE IN SOME PRETTY ROUGH SHAPE.

WE ALSO ARE TAKING A LOOK AT, AT OVERTIME ACROSS DEPARTMENTS.

SO WE'VE REALIZED SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS IN THE, UH, WE, WE HAVE A LOT OF OVERTIME IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

WE HAVE A LOT OF OVERTIME IN THE HIGHWAY AND THE BUILDINGS GROUNDS DEPARTMENT, WHEN THE POLICE OFFICERS ARE CALLED INTO ACTION.

IT'S REALLY NOT AN OPTION IF WE NEED POLICE OFFICERS.

WE NEED POLICE OFFICERS.

WHEN THE SNOW HITS THE GROUND, IT'S NOT REALLY AN OPTION.

WE NEED TO PAY OVERTIME TO GET PEOPLE OUT THERE TO CLEAR THEIR SNOW.

IN THE BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS DEPARTMENT, WE SAW THAT THERE WAS SOME WIGGLE ROOM.

WE HAD BROUGHT IN A NEW LEADER OF THE BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS DEPARTMENT, AND THERE HAD BEEN SOME LONGSTANDING PRACTICES OF, OF SELF-DIRECTED OVERTIME AND SOME OTHER EFFICIENCIES THAT WE WERE ABLE TO BRING TO THE DEPARTMENT TO REDUCE THE OVERTIME IN THE BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS DEPARTMENT BY APPROXIMATELY $100,000.

THESE, THIS IS A COMBINATION OF HIGHWAY AND BUILDINGS AND GROUND THAT I WASN'T ABLE TO SEPARATE IT OUT, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, WE WERE LOOKING AT, IN 2022 OF ALMOST $350,000 IN OVERTIME IN 2023, DESPITE SOME MASSIVE CLEANUP FROM THE CHRISTMAS BLIZZARD, THOSE RATES WENT UP.

RIGHT NOW THEY'RE AT ABOUT 250,000 OR 200, I'M SORRY, 240,000.

AND WE PROJECT BY THE END OF THE YEAR WILL BE ABOUT 270,000.

SO A, A BIG SAVINGS AND A RESULT OF WHAT ACCOUNTABILITY CAN BRING, AGAIN, NOT ONLY TO THE BUDGET, BUT TO THE TAXPAYERS THAT FUND THE BUDGET.

THIS NEXT SLIDE MAY NOT APPEAR TO BE THAT IMPRESSIVE, BUT PLEASE BEAR WITH ME AS I EXPLAIN WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN OUR RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

I HAVE THREE PROGRAMS INDICATED HERE.

THE FIRST IS THE, THE TOWN, UH, DAY CAMP.

UM, THAT PROGRAM WAS ANTICIPATED TO BRING IN ABOUT $125,000.

IN 2023, UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF JILLIAN GORMAN KING WE'RE ABLE TO INCREASE THOSE REVENUES TO $165,000,

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ABOUT $40,000 INCREASE.

THE TOWN TOP PROGRAM, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S RELATIVELY NO INCREASE THERE.

UH, IT, IT WAS A PROGRAM YOU WERE HOPING TO BRING IN $25,000, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO BRING IN ABOUT 26 5.

SO A $1,500 INCREASE.

AND BOTH THE DAY CAMP AND THE TOWN TOP PROGRAM HAVE THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL RESOURCES AND HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE MORE PROGRAMMING.

WE HAVE WAIT LISTS OF UP TO 50 FAMILIES FOR THESE PROGRAMS. SO GIVEN THAT THESE REVENUES HAVE BEEN SO POSITIVE, UH, I KNOW, UH, DIRECTOR GOMA KING IS LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN EXPAND THESE PROGRAMS AND BRING EVEN MORE REVENUE TO THE BUDGET CONVERSATION NEXT YEAR.

AND THEN FINALLY, THE GOLF COURSE, WHICH WE WERE THINKING IT WOULD PROBABLY BE AROUND 630, 640, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE ABOUT SIX 70, WHICH AGAIN, ONLY SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE 20, $30,000.

BUT MANY OF OUR RECREATION PROGRAMS IN YEARS PAST HAD BEEN COMING IN REGULARLY AND SIGNIFICANTLY UNDER BUDGET.

THE DOWN BOARD HAD, UH, INFLATED SOME OF THESE REVENUE PROJECTIONS, PERHAPS TO BALANCE THE BUDGET, OR PERHAPS THEY WERE JUST OVERLY OPTIMISTIC.

BUT THROUGH A MORE COORDINATED AND COLLABORATIVE BUDGET PROCESS, WE, WE WERE ABLE TO GET DOWN TO THE REAL NUMBERS.

THE BUDGET IS A PLAN.

THIS IS A PLANNING DOCUMENT, AND GOOD PLANS OFTEN INCLUDE SOME VERY DIFFICULT DECISIONS.

SO THERE HAVE BEEN SOME ADDITIONS IN PERSONNEL TO THIS BUDGET, AND THERE HAVE BEEN SOME DELETIONS IN PERSONNEL TO THIS BUDGET.

THE TOWN OF HAMBURG OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF DECADES HAS, UH, ON MANY OCCASIONS REDUCED THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES, ESPECIALLY AT THE DEPARTMENT HEAD LEVEL UPON RETIREMENTS.

FOR EXAMPLE, IF SOMEBODY FROM A DEPARTMENT, UM, SENIOR SERVICES DEPARTMENT RETIRES THE TOWN, THEN CONSUMED THE SENIOR SERVICES DEPARTMENT WITH THE YOUTH AND RECREATION DEPARTMENTS.

WHEN OUR TAX RECEIVER RETIRED, THOSE DUTIES WERE COMBINED AND GIVEN TO OUR TOWN CLERK, KATHERINE RODINSKY.

WHEN OUR PLANNER RETIRED, THE TOWN DECIDED NOT TO FILL THE PLANNER AND INSTEAD TO USE A CONTRACT FOR A PRIVATE COMPANY.

WHEN OUR ASSESSOR RETIRED, THE TOWN DECIDED NOT TO REPLACE WITH A FULL-TIME ASSESSOR, BUT TO ENTER AN AGREEMENT AT THE TOWN OF ORCHARD PARK TO SHARE THEIR ACCESSORY COST SAVINGS IS A GOOD IDEA.

HOWEVER, I CONTEND THAT THOSE COST SAVINGS CAME AT A COST.

WE, IN THIS BUDGET, WE HAVE INCLUDED AN ADDITIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCHER, ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICER, AN ADDITIONAL CLERK TYPIST, WHICH WE DISCUSSED DURING THE WORK SESSION IN OUR CLERK'S OFFICE, A TOWN PLANNER WHO WILL JOIN OUR ASSISTANT PLANNER TO BE THE SECOND FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE IN OUR NEW, UH, PLANNING DEPARTMENT IN A FULL-TIME ASSESSOR.

SO I WOULD CHARACTERIZE THIS AS FOUR AND A HALF JOBS THAT WERE ADDED TO THE TOWN BUDGET.

THE IMPORTANCE OF THE TOWN ASSESSOR, IN MY OPINION, WE NEED TO KNOW THAT OUR ASSESSOR IS ACCOUNTABLE TO THE TOWN OF HAMBURG.

WE RECENTLY LOST OUR TOWN ASSESSOR AND WE HAD FOUR DAYS NOTICE BEFORE HE LEFT.

THAT LEFT US SCRAMBLING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE WERE GONNA FILL THAT VOID.

AND THE FOLKS IN THE ASSESSOR'S DEPARTMENT WERE ABLE TO COME TOGETHER, PUT TOGETHER A TEMPORARY PLAN.

WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO REACH OUT TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, AND WE HAVE A GOOD GAME PLAN GOING FORWARD AND HOPE TO ATTRACT A FULL-TIME ASSESSOR FOR THE TOWN BUDGET DELETIONS.

AS WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE UH, WORK SESSION, MY BUDGET TAKES OUT THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ADVOCATE PHYSICIAN FROM THE 2024 BUDGET.

THIS WASN'T AN EASY DECISION, HOWEVER, THROUGH A PERSONNEL SITUATION, WE FOUND OURSELVES WITHOUT A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ADVOCATE AGAIN, IN THAT, IN THAT VACANCY, WE HAD TO BRING THE TEAM TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE WERE GONNA WORK WITH VICTIMS AND SURVIVORS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

WE TALKED TO THE PROFESSIONALS IN OUR PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCH, OUR COURTS, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ADVISORY BOARD TO TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS.

HOW ARE WE GONNA HANDLE THIS? WE ASSESSED WHAT WE WERE CURRENTLY DOING, AND WE MADE SURE THAT ANYBODY THAT REACHED OUT TO THE TOWN OF HAMBURG GOT THE HELP THAT THEY NEEDED.

VERY QUICKLY,

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WE WERE IN CONVERSATIONS WITH MARY MURPHY FROM THE FAMILY JUSTICE CENTER, AS WELL AS FOLKS FROM FROM HAVEN HOUSE, TWO ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE COMMITTED, DEDICATED, AND WELL SKILLED TO HELP VICTIMS AND SURVIVORS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

THEY CAME TO OUR ASSISTANCE IMMEDIATELY, AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO REFER THOSE PEOPLE TO THOSE SERVICES.

THE TOWN OF HAMBURG WAS AN BUER WHEN IT CAME TO EMPLOYING A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ADVOCATE.

OTHER COMMUNITIES, NO OTHER COMMUNITIES IN ERIE COUNTY EMPLOY THEIR OWN FULL-TIME DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ADVOCATE.

THEY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE ROBUST NOT-FOR-PROFIT NETWORK OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ADVOCACY TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE IN THEIR COMMUNITY.

IT WAS A TOUGH DECISION, BUT I AM PROMISING TO PEOPLE OF AMBER THAT VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE WILL BE BETTER SERVED UNDER THIS NEW MODEL THAN THEY WERE IN THE PAST.

THE OFFICE REMAINS IN THE BUDGET.

WE HAVE A PART-TIME LINE AND WE HAVE A CONSULTANT THAT IS GONNA HELP US DETERMINE WHAT OUR GAME PLAN IS FOR ALL OF 2024, AS WELL AS A LONG RANGE PLAN ON WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE OFFICE IN THE HAMBURG.

WE ALSO, UH, REDUCED THE BUDGET BY THREE FULL-TIME CLEANERS.

THE TOWN OF HAMBURG DID NOT HAVE FULL-TIME CLEANERS, UM, UP UNTIL I WOULD SAY MAYBE ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO.

CLEANING IS SOMETHING THAT REMAINS IN THE JOB DESCRIPTION OF OTHER TOWN EMPLOYEES, AND WE HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF PART-TIME CLEANERS THAT ALSO ASSIST IN MAKING SURE THAT OUR BUILDINGS ARE CLEAN AND PRESENTABLE TO THE PUBLIC.

AND IT'S MY CONTENTION THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THE NEED IN OUR FACILITIES WITH OUR PART-TIME AS WELL AS THE OTHER POSITIONS THAT ARE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR CLEANING OUR FACILITIES.

BUDGET FACTORS, UH, MR. CONLEY TALKED EARLIER TODAY ABOUT THE FUND BALANCE.

THE FUND BALANCE IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE OUR LENDERS, THE BOND MARKET WANTS TO SEE GROWTH IN OUR FUND, BALANCE OUR SAVINGS ACCOUNT.

JUST LIKE YOUR CREDIT SCORE, IF YOU HAVE A NICE HEALTHY SAVINGS ACCOUNT AND LITTLE DEBT, YOU'RE GONNA PAY LESS INTEREST THE SAME WAY FOR THE TOWN.

SO THIS BUDGET, UH, RELIES ON $700,000 IN THE GENERAL FUND, $700,000 IN THE TOWN OUTSIDE VILLAGE FUND, AND $75,000 IN THE HIGHWAY BOND FUND AND KEEPS OUR OVERALL FUND BALANCE JUST SHY OF 16%.

YOU WANNA STAY ABOVE 14% AND YOU WANNA STAY UNDER ABOUT 18%.

THE STATE DOESN'T LIKE IT IF YOU'RE BUILDING FUND BALANCES FOR NO PARTICULAR REASON, BECAUSE THEY FEEL, AND I AGREE, THAT THAT MONEY COULD BE BETTER SPENT IN THE POCKETS OF THE TAXPAYERS OF YOUR COMMUNITY.

SO AT 15.58% WE'RE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE, AND IN THE PAST THREE YEARS, WE'VE SEEN GROWTH IN OUR FUND BALANCE, WHICH WILL HELP US IN THE BOND MARKETS.

THIS IS WHAT THE TAX CHANGES LOOK LIKE.

SO ESSENTIALLY, UH, RATE PER $1,000 OF ASSESSED VALUATION, UH, IN THIS BUDGET IS $11 AND 77 CENTS.

THAT IS AN INCREASE OF 33 CENTS FROM 2023.

NOW, A HOME ASSESSED AT $150,000, WHICH I WOULD ARGUE IS ON THE RELATIVELY HIGH'S ASSESSED VALUE.

THAT'S NOT, NOT APPRAISED VALUE, BUT THE ASSESSED VALUE, THAT $150,000, THAT MEANS THAT THAT HOMEOWNER WILL PAY AN ADDITIONAL $49 AND 89 CENTS PER YEAR IN TOWN PROPERTY TAXES.

AND I THINK THAT BRINGS US TO THE CONCLUSION OF THE BUDGET PRESENTATION.

HOWEVER, AS I STATED EARLIER, WE ARE HERE TO LISTEN TO YOUR THOUGHTS, YOUR IDEAS, YOUR CONCERNS WITH ANYBODY THAT IS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK UP.

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WELL, THOSE FOLKS ARE SIGNING UP.

JUST A REMINDER TO THE STUDENTS AFTER, AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT, WE'RE GOING TO RELEASE MR. BARRUCCI.

YEAH, THE ONLY COMMENT THAT I WOULD'VE IS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A BREAKDOWN BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TAXES AND OUR HOMEOWNER PROPERTY TAXES.

AS WE ARE NOW IN A STAGE OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT IS BRINGING A LOT OF, UH, COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES ONLINE.

WE HAVE AMAZON NOW COMING ONLINE.

FINALLY AFTER TWO YEARS, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE PROPOSALS COMING IN.

WE SEE, UH, FEED MORE, UH, NEW YORK IS COMING IN AND UH, SO THAT'S GONNA BE A NONPROFIT, SO THAT'S NOT GOING TO BRING ANYTHING TO US.

SO IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE AS I HAVE, I HAVE ISSUES WITH PILOT AGREEMENTS WHERE WE AS TAXPAYERS, HOMEOWNERS ARE SUBSIDIZING CORPORATIONS THAT ARE GONNA BRING IN LOW PAYING JOBS.

PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA WIND UP WHEN THEY SHOW THE PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR OUTFITS LIKE AMAZON AND WALMART, WHO ARE ALSO ON PUBLIC ASSISTANCE WHILE THEY ARE WORKING AND WE'RE PAYING FOR THIS.

AND WE'VE GOTTA BE VERY CAREFUL IN OUR DEVELOPMENT, IN OUR PLANNING, WONDERFUL THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE FULL-TIME PLANNER WHERE WE CAN BEGIN TO LOOK AT HOW IS THIS GOING TO PAY? TAXES ARE A QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE, THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE ITEM, AND WE HAVE TO START THINKING CAREFULLY ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GETTING IT, WHERE WE'RE GETTING IT FROM.

AND FRANKLY, SOME OF THESE LARGE CORPORATIONS, THEY GET THEIR 10 YEARS IN.

SEE YOU LATER.

NOW WE HAVE A PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT.

THANK YOU MR. COPE.

UM, YOU MENTIONED THE 2.9%, UH, TAX INCREASE.

I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU WENT TO THE STATE, BECAUSE THEY HAVE, UH, THE CAP ON IT, ONLY 2%.

DID WE GET, UH, AN OKAY FROM THE STATE TO GO OVER THE 2%? IS THAT YOUR ONLY QUESTION? NO.

THAT'S THE WAY, UH, THAT'S THE WAY GOVERNMENT SOMETIMES WORKS.

YOU CAN FI YOU CAN FINISH.

UM, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE CREATIVE FINANCES, AND I'LL LET YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY CERTAIN WAYS THAT YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, FINANCE OR INVEST OUR MONEY BECAUSE IT'S, YOU CAN'T GAMBLE WITH OUR MONEY.

AND, UH, BUT ANYWAYS, I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THE 2.9 TAX.

SURE.

ALRIGHT, AND, UM, WHAT ELSE? UM, YOU SAID ABOUT ONE OF YOUR EMPLOYEES THAT SAVED US ALL THIS MONEY.

IT'S ONLY BEEN ON FOR TWO MONTHS.

I I, I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING THAT.

I'M SURE YOUR APARTMENT HAD FOR, UH, BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS.

YOU MENTIONED ALL THE SAVINGS AND STUFF.

HE'S ONLY BEEN ON FOR TWO MONTHS, BUT, BUT ANYWAYS.

SURE, SURE.

I'LL, UH, BE GLAD TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS.

UM, IS MR. RIVERA HERE? OKAY, HE'S, HE'S BEEN, HE'S BEEN WITH US FOR MUCH LONGER THAN THAN TWO MONTHS.

UH, I BELIEVE YOU STARTED AT THE MEETING AND YOU APPOINT IN MARCH OF, OF THIS YEAR.

SO CHECK, UH, CHECK YOUR FACEBOOK FEED, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO TO SHARE HIS, HIS DATE OF EMPLOYMENT.

BUT HE'S BEEN HERE FOR MUCH LONGER THAN TWO MONTHS.

UM, AND HE'S, HE'S DONE SOME GREAT WORK WHEN IT COMES TO THE, THE 2.9% INCREASE.

UM, IT CAN BE VERY CONFUSING TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC, BUT, UH, FOR FOLKS THAT, AND, AND WE'RE AT A BIT OF ADVANTAGE BECAUSE WE DO THIS STUFF BEING IN GOVERNMENT, UM, BUT THE 2.9% IS THE INCREASE IN THE PROPERTY TAX RATE.

SO YOU MAY WANNA TAKE A LOOK AT THE STATE COMPTROLLER'S WEBSITE, AND THAT WILL MAKE CLEAR THAT THE 2% PROPERTY TAX CAP IS ON THE PROPERTY TAX LEVY, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN THE PROPERTY TAX RATE.

SO WE ARE LIMITED, AS MR. CONLEY POINTED OUT DURING THE WORK SESSION.

WE ARE LIMITED IN THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE CAN RAISE WITH PROPERTY TAX.

THAT'S THE TOTAL AMOUNT, NOT THE RATE THAT THE INDIVIDUAL PAYS.

SO WE ACTUALLY CAN RAISE $500,000 MORE IN PROPERTY TAXES, WHICH WOULD BRING OUR PROPERTY TAX RATE INCREASE TO ABOUT 5.3% AND STILL BE UNDER THE PROPERTY TAX CAP.

I KNOW IT'S COUNTERINTUITIVE, BUT

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DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE ON THE LIST ELSE HAS SIGNED UP? ANYBODY ELSE COME TO BE HEARD ON THE BUDGET PRESENTATION? RIGHT? GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE.

ALL RIGHT, STUDENTS, WHY DON'T YOU COME ON UP HERE AND LET'S JUST TAKE MAYBE A FOUR MINUTE BREAK AND, AND EVERYBODY WILL SIGN YOUR STUFF.

JUST COME ON UP HERE AND WE'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HOL, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANYONE? ANYTHING? ALRIGHT FOLKS, WE'RE GONNA GET BACK TO THE AGENDA WITH ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

I WILL READ THE PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE.

PLEASE TAKE NOTICE AS THE TOWN BOARD AT THE TOWN OF HAMBURG WILL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON OCTOBER 23RD, 2023 AT 7:00 PM LOCAL TIME AT THE HAMPTON TOWN HALL, 6,100 SOUTH PARK IN HAMBURG, NEW YORK, IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 180 4 OF THE TOWN LAW TO PROVIDE FOR CHANGES IN THE FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT AS FOLLOWS, ARMOR VOLUNTEER FOR FIRE COMPANY 2024 CONTRACT REQUEST $332,371, WHICH

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IS UP FROM $304,535.

BIG TREE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY, $573,615, WHICH IS UP TO $538,606 LAKESHORE 579 800 UP FROM 5 57 5 LAKEVIEW BY YOUR DISTRICT, 73,800, WHICH IS UP FROM 70,346 NEWT 5 13 791, WHICH IS UP FROM 507 91 SCRANTON VOLUNTEER, 554 45 UP FROM 5 33 5 45 VILLAGE OF HAMBURG, 200,000, WHICH IS UP FROM 179 190 $2.

WOODLAWN VOLUNTEER 4 29 2 5 4, WHICH IS UP FROM 4 28 38.

THESE CONTRACTS PROVIDE FOR FIRE PROTECTION AMBULANCE SERVICE WITHIN AND OR OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARIES.

IN RE RESPECT TO DISTRICTS, THE TERMS OF THE ABOVE CONTRACT SHALL BE FOR A PERIOD OF ONE YEAR WITH A PRIVILEGE OF RENEWAL FOR FOUR ADDITIONAL YEAR TERMS AS PROVIDED IN AND UNDER CONDITIONS STATED IN EACH CONTRACT.

FULL OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD WILL BE GIVEN TO ALL CITIZENS AND PARTIES INTERESTED BY ORDER THE HENRY COUNTY COUNTY BOARD DATED OCTOBER 20TH, 2023.

SO WE WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND BY WAY OF OF PRESENTATION, THE UH, TOWN BOARD HAD PREVIOUSLY INVITED, UH, MEMBERS OF THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENTS TO THIS PUBLIC HEARING TO GIVE A BUDGET PRESENTATION.

WE DID THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY THIS YEAR, AND I WAS ABLE TO MEET WITH ALL OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS ONE-ON-ONE THROUGHOUT, UH, JULY AND AUGUST.

I BELIEVE IT WAS.

UH, THOSE CONVERSATIONS WERE, UH, VERY BENEFICIAL TO ME AND I BELIEVE RESULTED IN TASKS THAT CERTAINLY SHOULD BE FUNDED BY THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD.

AND MY BUDGET INCLUDES FUNDING, THE FUNDING THAT WAS REQUESTED BY THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENTS.

THESE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENTS ARE FACED WITH A SIGNIFICANT TASK IN A VERY CHALLENGING ENVIRONMENT.

IF YOU'VE EVER THOUGHT ABOUT VOLUNTEERING IN THE VOLUNTEER FIRE SERVICE, NOW IS THE TIME TO DO IT.

NOT ONLY IS THERE SIGNIFICANT NEED, BUT THERE'S TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY IN THESE FIRE DEPARTMENTS TO GAIN NEW SKILLS TO NETWORK WITH OTHER PROFESSIONALS TO LEARN HOW TO CHANGE A TIRE, TO DO THE THINGS THAT OUR GENERATION AND OTHER GENERATIONS WEREN'T NECESSARILY TAUGHT TO DO.

THESE ARE COMMUNITY CENTERS WHERE WE HAVE BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN SERVING THEIR COMMUNITY, THEIR FAMILY ORIENTED ORGANIZATIONS, UM, AND THEY'RE IN NEED OF OUR SUPPORT.

SO IN LIEU OF ANY PRESENTATIONS FROM THE FIRE COMPANIES THEMSELVES, THEY'VE SUBMITTED THEIR DOCUMENTATION, THEY HAVE SOME GREAT REQUESTS ON THE TABLE TO CONTINUE TO THE WORK IN THEIR COMMUNITIES WILL FOREGO ANY PRESENTATION FROM THE MEMBERS OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS THEMSELVES.

OF COURSE, IF YOU'RE WELCOME TO SAY ANYTHING, PLEASE DO FOR ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THE PUBLIC HEARING.

NOW'S YOUR CHANCE.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP? WE DO.

THEN THERE'S NO ONE ELSE.

WE'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE DO FAVOR BY SAYING A AYE.

ROAD FROM M TWO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT TO MU ONE MIXED USE DISTRICT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND THANKS FOR COMING.

ALL RIGHT, FOLKS.

THIS BRINGS US TO OUR THIRD PUBLIC HEARING OF THE EVENING.

ITEM NUMBER SIX ON THE AGENDA, THE SECOND HEARING FOR THE ALCHEMY SHORES PROPOSED LOCAL LAW NUMBER 11 20 23.

PLEASE TAKE NOTICE THAT THERE HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO THE TOWN BOARD ON JUNE 26TH, 2023, PURSUANT TO MUNICIPAL HOME RULE LAW, PROPOSED LOCAL LAW TO BE KNOWN AS PROPOSED LOCAL LAW.

NUMBER 11, 20 23 SAID LOCAL LAW PROVIDES FOR THE AMENDMENT OF LOCAL LAW NUMBER 10 19 86, CHAPTER TWO 80, ENTITLED ZONE ALL AND PROVIDES SUBSTANTIALLY AS FOLLOWS, FOR THE ADOPTION OF AMENDMENT TO SET ZONING CODE FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 37 80 HOOVER

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THIS PROPERTY IS IDENTIFIED BY SBL NUMBER 1 59 11 DASH ONE DASH 8 1 1.

THEREFORE, PURSUANT TO THE STATUTES AND PROVISIONS OF THE MUNICIPAL HOME RULE LAW, THE TOWN BOARD AT THE TOWN OF HAMBURG WILL HOLD A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING ON OCTOBER 23RD, 2023 AT 7:00 PM LOCAL TIME, AT WHICH TIME ALL INTERESTED PERSONS MAY BE HEARD.

A PUBLIC HEARING WAS HELD ON THIS PROPOSED LOCAL LAW ON JULY 17TH, 2023.

HOWEVER, AT THE PUBLIC INPUT, THE HAMBRICK TOWN BOARD HAS DETERMINED IT IS NECESSARY TO INDUCT A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED REZONING LAW.

WE'LL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND IT APPEARS AS THOUGH THERE'S A PRESENTATION MATERIALIZING BEFORE US.

YES, SIR.

SO, UM, I BELIEVE THAT, UH, YOU GUYS MAY HAVE REACHED OUT TO OUR STAFF ASKING IF THERE WOULD BE, UH, A REQUIREMENT FOR A PRESENTATION.

UM, AND WHAT I RELAYED WAS THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE, OH, AND WE DID NOT ANTICIPATE A PRESENTATION.

WE WERE TOLD THERE WAS TO TO BE.

SO THE REASON THAT I BRING THIS UP IS BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALSO HAD SOMEBODY THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO GIVE MORE THAN THE ALLOTTED THREE MINUTES.

FRANCINE, ARE YOU HERE? I DID ASK THAT.

IS HE AVAILABLE TO GIVE A PRESENTATION IS OKAY.

SO IF, WELL, WE CAN, IF, IF YOU GUYS WANT A LONGER PRESENTATION THAN THREE MINUTES, WE DON'T, WE WE DON'T NEED, YOU'RE GONNA STICK TO THREE MINUTES.

BE LESS THAN THAT TO GIVE YOU, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE ON THE LIST AHEAD OF THESE GUYS? NO.

SO IF YOU WANNA SPEAK, YOU CAN YEP.

COME ON UP AND SIGN UP TO SPEAK AND, UH, YOU GUYS ARE GOOD TO GO.

MY NAME IS JOE MENACHO.

I'M ARCHITECT FOR BUFFALO CHAMPAGNE HOUSE.

UM, I BELIEVE ALL OF YOU HAVE REVIEWED THE PREVIOUS SITE PLAN, UH, PREVIOUS MEETINGS, AND WE'RE ONLY HERE TONIGHT TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHAT WE HAVE, UH, REVISED THE SITE PLAN TO ADDING AMENITIES, UH, FOR THE CUSTOMERS OF, UH, BUFFALO CHAMPAGNE HOUSE.

AND THOSE AMENITIES ARE MORE, UM, UH, THROUGHOUT THE SITE ITSELF.

THE MAIN SITE, THE MAIN PARKING SITE ITSELF REMAINS THE SAME.

THE AMENITIES ARE SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE, UH, THE REMAINING SITES.

UH, NEW BOARDWALK THAT LEADS TO THE BEACH, UH, WITH, UH, PLANNERS.

AND THEN, UM, A REMOVABLE WEDDING CEREMONY, UM, ALTAR AT THE, UH, AT, ON THE BEACH ITSELF.

WITHIN THE, UM, THE REAR SIDE OF THE PARKING, WE ADDED ADDITIONAL SOME GAMING COURTS AND SOME OTHER ADDITIONAL SEATING.

AND ALSO, UH, COVERED GAZEBO THAT CUSTOMERS CAN UTILIZE AND, AND SIT AND ENJOY THE, UH, THE VIEWS AND THE VISTAS OF THE BEACH THEMSELVES.

UH, EVERYTHING ELSE REMAINS THE SAME.

UH, WE HAVE, UH, QUITE A BIT OF LANDSCAPING ALONG THE, UH, UH, NEIGHBORING PROPERTY.

THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY WE DID, UH, ONE ITEM WE DID REVISE ON THE BUILDING ITSELF IS THERE WAS A DOOR IN QUESTION THAT, UH, OPENED ONTO THE, UH, REAR SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

WE'RE INTENDING ON CLOSING THAT DOOR OFF AND CREATING ANOTHER EXIT REMOTE ENOUGH FROM THE EXISTING EXIT THAT WILL MEET CODE.

UM, IN DOING THAT, UH, WE WILL BE REVISING SOME OF THE FACADE AS WELL TO MAKE ROOM FOR THE DOOR.

BUT AS FAR AS THE, UH, ADDITIONAL AMENITIES, THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL SEATING THROUGHOUT IN AREAS FOR, UH, A FUTURE, WOULDN'T SAY FUTURE, BUT THEY'RE, UH, BUFFALO CHAMPAGNES, THEIR MOBILE WINE BAR THAT THEY CAN MOVE AND THEN BRING BACK INTO THE SPACE, UM, WHEN NOT IN USE.

SO THAT'S REALLY JUST A BRIEF UPDATE ON THE UPDATED SITE PLAN.

AND THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FOR TONIGHT.

VERY GOOD.

MAY I ASK YOU A QUESTION? YES.

I KNOW ONE, AND YOU WERE VERY RESPONSIVE LAST TIME, BUT I, WHEN I, UM, ASKED FOR YOU TO DETAIL SPECIFICALLY SO THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE REGARDING THE DRAINAGE BETWEEN YOUR PROPERTY AND THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY MM-HMM .

AND YOU HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT THERE WOULD BE THE, UM, UH, YOU WERE GONNA DO, YOU SAID YOU WERE FAMILIAR WITH THAT, THE PIPE WITH THE HOLES AND EVERYTHING YEAH.

RUNNING THE FULL LENGTH OF THE PROPERTY.

SO COULD YOU, UM, ELABORATE THAT ON THAT IT, IT WOULD BE ON THIS SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AND YOU SAID IT WAS GONNA EXTEND THE ENTIRE LENGTH, CORRECT? IT WOULD GO ALL THE WAY.

I WOULD GRAB THE DOWNSPOUTS THAT COME DOWN ON THIS, THIS SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND IT WOULD JUST BASICALLY FEED THIS L INSIDE.

SO IT WOULD EXTEND BEYOND THERE TO TAKE CARE OF, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN HISTORICALLY AN ISSUE WITH DRAINAGE THROUGH THAT AREA.

AND THAT'LL BE CONSTRUCTED OR THAT'LL BE PUT IN PLACE.

DO YOU HAVE ? AS SOON AS SOON.

AS SOON AS WE START THE PROJECT, AS SOON AS WE'RE ABLE TO START THE PROJECT.

AND THE, THE ROOFING, I KNOW YOU ALSO TALKED ABOUT SOME, SOME GUTTER ICE SHOES.

GUTTERS ARE ALL NEW TAKE OF THAT.

AND WE'LL PUT ICE SHOES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE, AND THAT HAS BEEN DONE OR IS GOING TO BE THAT THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

YEP.

ANYTHING ELSE? IT WAS JUST AS LONG AS YOU HAD THE PICTURE THERE MADE IT EASY TO CLARIFY.

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WE SPOKEN ABOUT LAST TIME.

ANYBODY ELSE? GOOD.

THANKS SCOTT.

CAN YOU CALL A WEDDING ALTAR? HOW OFTEN IS THAT GONNA BE REMOVED? IT'LL BE, IT'LL BE NOT IN PLACE.

IT'LL ALWAYS ONLY BE THERE FOR THE CEREMONY.

AND THEN REMOVED.

WE TALKING THIS, THIS, RIGHT? JUST FOR THE WEDDING CEREMONY TAKEN RIGHT DOWN.

HOW MANY GAVE ME COS 'CAUSE THAT WASN'T ON THE, IT WAS WAS JUST, UH, IT WAS JUST TWO.

TWO, TWO.

SO WHAT, HOW DO YOU ANTICIPATE THEM BEING USED? WHAT'S THE LIGHTING ON THEM? IT'S JUST, UM, RIGHT NOW CURRENTLY THERE'S NO LIGHTING TO BE PROPOSED, BUT THE, WE, WE DO PLAN ON ADDING JUST SOME, UM, POLE MOUNTED SCOTS LIGHTS OR SPOTLIGHTS, BUT THEY'LL BE AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORS POINTING INTO THE PROPERTY.

WHAT KIND OF GAMING CORDS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? IT'S JUST BOCCE BALL B, BOCCE BALL, BACHI BALL.

AND THEN YOU WERE SAYING THAT THERE'S GONNA HAVE ADDITIONAL SEATING AREA TO VIEW THE LAKE.

HOW MANY ARE YOU ANTICIPATING HAVING A SAND? THIS COVERED GAZEBO HERE, COVERED GAZEBO AND SOME FOUR TOPS ALONG THESE, UH, JUST A BUILT UP SANDBAR HERE.

AND THEN JUST SOME TEMPORARY SEATING, BEACH LOUNGES ALONG THE BEACH.

THOSE BEACH LOUNGES WILL BE REMOVED EVERY NIGHT? UH, THEY'LL BE REMOVED.

YEAH, THEY'LL BE PUT HERE.

YEAH, THEY'LL BE.

I KNOW ORIGINALLY YOU HAD INDICATED TOO THAT UM, LIKE YOUR SEATING AREA, ALL OF THIS, YOU'RE GONNA KEEP IT AS FAR AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY.

SO IS THAT, IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY THAT THE GAMING REPORTS COULD BE ADJUSTED? SO, 'CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT'S NOT OVER ON THAT MORE NORTHERN PART OF THE PROPERTY.

I MEAN, WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

I MEAN, MAYBE POSSIBLY ROTATING THEM AND PUT 'EM PARALLEL.

RIGHT.

SO I THINKING OF THE LIGHTING.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

THE REASON WHY THEY'RE HERE THIS WAY IS, YOU KNOW, THE LIGHTING WE CAN POINT AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORS.

IT MIGHT TURN THEM, THEN THEY MIGHT GET SOME, YOU KNOW, BOUNCE BACK, LIGHTING, INSPECT LIGHT.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO AVOID.

DO YOU ANTICIPATE USING THE BACHE, THE WEDDING AREA, LIKE FOUR TOP SEATING? LIKE DO YOU ANTICIPATE ALL OF THIS BEING USED AT THE SAME TIME? 'CAUSE THE PARKING HASN'T CHANGED? NO, NOT AT ALL.

CLEARLY THE, THE DENSITY OF PEOPLE THERE, RIGHT.

THERE'S, THERE'S SOME TYPE OF WEDDING OR CEREMONY.

I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT ALL GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, DOXY COURTS MAY BE IN USE BY A COUPLE OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE GUESTS THAT ARE AT THE WEDDING.

BUT IT, WE WON'T HAVE ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, CUSTOMERS FROM, IT'LL BE CLOSED FOR THE WEDDING, FOR NONOPERATIONAL ONLY FOR THE WEDDING.

YEAH, THAT'S DEFINITELY CHANGING THE DENSITY IF YOU HAVE AN ALL GOING PLACE.

I'VE GOT A QUESTION ABOUT THE, UM, BUILDING ITSELF.

IS THERE, WHAT, UM, ONE OF THE BIG CONCERNS IS NOISE.

HAVE YOU PUT ANYTHING INTO THE BUILDING IN TERMS OF SOUNDPROOFING OR, WELL, THIS IS A BLOCK WALL, WHICH HELPS IN SOUND ITSELF.

WE'RE REFERRING RIGHT NOW, CURRENTLY THERE'S RESTROOMS IN THIS BACK CORNER, WHICH ARE FOR OUT WITH STUDS THAT ARE INSULATED.

THAT HELPS WITH SOUND MITIGATION ALONG THE EXISTING BLOCK WALL ITSELF.

WE'RE BUILDING THAT OUT FOR NEW WALL, UH, IN FRONT OF THE BLOCK.

AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL THROW A SOUND ATTENUATION, UH, THAT INSULATION THERE AS WELL.

AND THE WINDOWS ARE EXISTING.

UM, WEST HER, THE APPLICANT CAME FOR A DEALERSHIP UP ON SOUTHWESTERN, WHERE IT'S ZONED WRONG, CANNOT PUT A CAR DEALERSHIP THAT'S DESIGNATED IN THAT AREA.

AND THE WINDOWS WILL BE INFIL SO THAT, THAT SOUND DOES NOT THROUGH THE GLASS.

MAD COUNCIL, CHECK THEIR RS AND WANNA WELCOME OUR NEW GROUP .

UM, I'M SPEAKING OUT ON BEHALF BECAUSE OF MY EXPERIENCE, MY KNOWLEDGE OF, UM, WHAT MANY PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM ARE ON THE COMMITTEE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE DRAFT FOR THE ZONING AND PLANNING FOR, UM, TOWN OF HAMBURG.

THOSE, UM, BUT THE ALCHEMY SHORES IN THAT AREA, YOU'RE STARTING, YOU WANNA ZONE A NEW N NEW ONE, WHICH IS A BRAND NEW ZONE.

I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

AND THE PURPOSE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS TO ELIMINATE MY, ONE OF THE PURPOSES WAS TO ELIMINATE SOME OF WHAT I USED TO CALL IT USED TO AGGRAVATE THE PLANNING CONSULTANT SPOT ZONING.

CERTAIN AREAS IN HAMBURG THAT WERE ZONED WASN'T THE RIGHT WAY.

SOME OF THE EXAMPLES WHERE THE ASPHALT PLAN, IT WAS ZONED PROPERLY, BUT THE AESTHETICS AND THE COMMUNITY CHARACTER WASN'T RIGHT.

SO IT WASN'T APPROVED.

UM, THE DOLLAR GENERAL, DOLLAR GENERAL IN SOUTHWESTERN, SAME WAY IT WAS, IT'S ZONED PROPERLY, BUT THE RESIDENTS WHEN THEY BOUGHT THEIR HOMES IN 1976, DIDN'T KNOW THAT IT COULD PLANT A RETAIL STORE THERE.

AND THAT WAS NOT APPROVED.

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THE APPLICANT WAS STILL ALLOWED TO PROPOSE IT.

UM, MCKINLEY NEWTON, UH, THEY DID A DEVELOPMENT UP THERE WHERE THE RESIDENTS SUED.

THEY LOST THE VOTE OR THEY LOST THE FIRST TIME THEY GOT WON IT ON APPEALS.

SO THEY WON THEIR LAWSUIT, I THINK FOR GREEN SPACE OR SOME OTHER THINGS.

I DON'T KNOW THE LEGALITY OF IT.

AND THEN THE PARKER ROAD WENT.

SO MICHAEL DEVELOPERS WERE TRYING TO PUT SOMETHING ON A PARKER ROAD DEVELOPMENT AND THAT HASN'T GONE THROUGH.

SO MAYBE THEY'RE, I BELIEVE THEY'RE STARTING TO REAPPLY.

MY POINT IS, YOU HAVE AN AREA OF A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THESE RESIDENTS DON'T WANT TO HAVE A BANQUET FACILITY PER SE.

UH, UH, A PARTY ATMOSPHERE WHERE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE LIQUOR, TRAFFIC PROBLEMS, NOISE, IT'S ALWAYS TO YOU.

ALL I'M SAYING IS DO NOT TO GO BACKWARDS ON WHAT OVER THE LIST I HAVE IS WELL OVER 30 PEOPLE THAT YOU'VE HAD ON COMMITTEES OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS TO TRY TO STOP THIS UNCHARACTERISTIC ZONING.

AND IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, I THINK THAT THIS AREA SHOULD NOT BE THE, I SHOULDN'T SAY LIKE, I DON'T SAY POSTING JOB, BUT, UM, I MEAN THE THE FIRST ONE, IT'S THE WRONG AREA.

IT JUST SHOULDN'T BE IN THAT AREA.

'CAUSE THEY HAVE THAT, NOT NOW THAT COWBOY BAR ON ONE END GOING.

SO SOME OF THE RESIDENTS ARE GONNA BE IN STEREO.

UM, IN THE SURVEY THAT YOU PASSED OUT WITH YOUR COMMITTEES AND EVERYTHING, I LOOKED OVER THIS VERY GOOD READ, BUT I SHOULD ALSO POINT OUT THIS IS A NON-COMPLETE DOCUMENT, JUST TO BE FAIR THERE.

THIS IS AN ONGOING THING THAT THEY'RE DOING FOR THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

FAIR TO SAY THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA BE DOING DIFFERENT ADJUSTMENTS THROUGHOUT THE TIME, SO, SO ONE, THANK YOU.

AND SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A STABLE RESIDENTIAL AREA OVER THERE AND YOU KNOW, I LIKE THE MODEL THAT WE HAVE IN HAMBURG HERE.

I'M VERY PROUD TO LIVE HERE.

YOU KNOW, HAMBURG, THE TOWN OF FRIENDSHIP THOUGH, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A QUE FACILITY THAT WAS PUT RIGHT BEHIND MY HOUSE.

I LIVE ON TAYLOR ROAD AND I WAS ON THE PLANNING BOARD FOR THAT.

I WAS AN OBJECTION TO IT BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH IT WAS WILL EVENT POOL AND TENNIS CLUB PRIOR, I DIDN'T HAVE, THEY DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF ACTION.

NOW THAT THAT'S THERE, IT'S, IT'S SO FAR BACK.

IT'S LIKE TWO FOOTBALL FIELDS BEHIND MY HOUSE, BUT STILL, I DON'T HEAR ANY MUSIC OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THIS RESIDENTIAL AREA WHERE THIS PLACE WANTS TO GO.

IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A FIVE FEET GAP.

I WENT AND LOOKED AT IT WHEN EMERGENCY EVER HAPPENED, THEY HAD TO PUT A WHEELCHAIR DOWN THIS AREA.

THE SAFETY PROP WOULD NOT BE A GOOD THING.

SO ALL I'M ASKING ON BEHALF OF THIS GROUP IS THAT WE RECONSIDER ZONING BECAUSE NOW THE ZONING BOARD, I'M SORRY, THE PLANNING, THE PLANNING BOARD, THEY CAN'T CONSIDER THE VALUE OF THEIR HOMES.

HOMES, BUT THE TOWN BOARD CAN.

SO I'D LIKE YOU TO MAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT REZONING THIS AND IF THE APPLICANT, THE BUSINESS NOT HAVE NOTHING DEROGATORY OR DISPARAGING TO SAY ABOUT THE BUSINESS, IT'S JUST THE WRONG SPOT.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR ALRIGHT, I BELIEVE.

NEXT WE HAVE, UH, NIKKI ERROL.

I'M READING A LETTER FROM, AND IT WAS WRITTEN BY KAREN BROWN, YOUR TOWN OF HAMBURG BOARD MEMBERS.

IF WE WERE TO SURVEY THIS ROOM, I BELIEVE THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE HERE EITHER HAVE A CAT OR A DOG.

I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT YOU ARE VERY FOND OF YOUR ANIMAL AND YOU DO THE VERY BEST TO CARE FOR HIM OR HER.

I WOULD LIKE TO BRIEFLY ADDRESS THE EFFECT THAT LOUD NOISE HAS ON DOGS.

THE HOMEOWNER'S NECK TO ALCHEMY HAVE DOGS SO EXCESSIVE LONG LASTING NOISE WILL AFFECT THEM.

I'M TALKING ABOUT LONG PERIODS OF LOUD MUSIC, ESPECIALLY DURING PROLONGED PERIODS OUTSIDE DURING NICE WEATHER.

ACCORDING TO A STUDY, THOUGH BY PURDUE UNIVERSITY, EXTENSION, EXPOSURE TO SOUND ABOVE 140 DECIBELS CAN CAUSE IMMEDIATE DAMAGE AND PHYSICAL PAIN.

SOUND LEVELS RANGING FROM 85 TO A HUNDRED DECIBELS ARE COMMON IN DOG KENNELS.

THIS STUDY ALSO STATED THAT EXPOSURE TO LOUD NOISES CAN LEAD TO BEHAVIOR ISSUES AND PHYSICAL CHANGES SUCH AS A SUPPRESSED IMMUNE SYSTEM, INSULIN RESISTANCE, CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE, AND IN INTESTINAL

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PROBLEMS. ACCORDING TO DR. STANLEY PHD, D-S-C-F-R-S-C IN PSYCHOLOGY TODAY, IF THE CELL LEVEL RISES TO 110 DECIBELS, THE SAFE LISTENING TIME PLUMMETS FOR ONE MINUTE.

WHILE EXPOSURE TO 120 DECIBELS OR ABOVE MAY CAUSE VIRTUALLY INSTANTANEOUS DAMAGE.

IN DR.

K'S ARTICLE, HE STATES IT IS GENERALLY ACCEPTED THAT SOUNDS OVER 85 DECIBELS.

DEPENDING UPON THE PERIOD YOU ARE EXPOSED TO AND DAMAGE YOUR HEARING.

ANIMALS ARE KNOWN TO HAVE MORE SENSITIVE HEARING, THEREFORE, AS LIKELY THE DECIBEL LEVEL WOULD BE REDUCED.

MM-HMM THINK ABOUT YOUR ANIMAL DURING A THUNDERSTORM OR FIREWORKS.

THESE OCCURRENCES ARE INFREQUENT.

SO HAVE YOU MANAGED BECAUSE IT'S A SHORT DURATION.

NOW IMAGINE LIVING FEET AWAY FROM A BUSINESS THAT HAS REQUESTED A NOISE VARIANCE FROM 10:00 AM TO 11:00 PM AS A COMMUNITY, IT IS OUR JOB TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT THAT IS NOISE APPROPRIATE AND CONDUCIVE FOR THEM TO LIVE.

RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED, KAREN A. BROWN.

MOST, UH, TREES OF THIS TYPE HAVE 50% WATER IN THEM, AND DURING THE SUMMERTIME THEY HAVE ALMOST A HUNDRED GALLONS OF WATER IN THE SOIL, KEEPING THINGS HANDY AND WET.

MAUREEN RA.

GONNA BRING SOME PICTURES OF, OKAY.

MY NAME IS MAUREEN S SPRA.

UM, I SPOKE AT THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING AND EXPRESSED MY SURPRISE AT HOW DRASTICALLY THE LAND AT 37 80 HOOVER ROAD HAD BEEN ALTERED AND CLEARED.

YOU'LL NOTICE THE MANY PHOTOS THAT YOU JUST BROUGHT UP, AND PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO THE THREE LARGER PHOTOS AT THE VERY TOP.

THESE WERE TAKEN AT THE SAME HOOVER ROAD LOCATION BACK IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR.

SINCE MANY OF THESE TREES WERE CUT DOWN, A LOT OF VEGETATION HAS REGENERATED IT AND GROWN BACK.

THIS IS WHAT I WILL FOCUS ON.

THE FOUR BY SIX TREE STUMP PHOTO WITH BLOOM AROUND THE TRUNKS HAVE A GREEN RULER PLACED ON TOP TO INDICATE THE DIAMETER THAT RANGES FROM FOUR TO SIX INCHES.

IT ALSO INDICATES A CIRCUMFERENCE OF 11 INCHES TO ONE AND A HALF FOOT.

THE GOOD NEWS IS THE REGROWTH IS VIBRANT AND HEALTHY.

THESE TREES ARE POPLARS AND THEY RUN ALONG THE NORTHERN EDGE AND MANY ARE ACTUALLY THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY.

THE NEXT SECTION WITH THE ORANGE BANDING SHOWS CHANGE SIDE TRUNKS WITH SIMILAR REGROWTH.

THE ORANGE CIRCLE TREES ARE IN A MORE CENTRALLY LOCATED AREA AND IS A VEGETATION CLOSEST TO THE SHORE.

THE NEXT FIVE PHOTOS ARE A SIMPLE DOCUMENTATION OF WHAT THESE YOUNG TREES LOOK LIKE AND THEIR LOCATION.

IN THE LAST SECTION, THE THREE SPECIES CHANGES TO WILLOWS.

THESE FIVE WILLOWS RUN DIRECTLY ALONG THE BORDER OF THE TWO PROPERTY LINES.

AND THESE WERE CUT DOWN BY CHAINSAW CHAINSAWS AS WELL, BUT ALONG WITH THE OTHERS, THEY'RE SHOWING REMARKABLE REGROWTH.

I'M ASKING FOR ASSURANCES THAT ALL THESE TREES WILL BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE FLOURISHING.

YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PHOTOS WE PRESENTED THAT THEIR RESURGENCE IS AN AMAZING ASPECT OF NATURE.

THE DEC DIRECTIVES ALLOW TRIMMING BUT NOT CUTTING DOWN.

WE HOPE YOU CAN, THAT THIS DIRECTIVE WILL BE FOLLOWED.

CAROL MELNICK.

HELLO, UH, I'M A PART-TIME RESIDENT AT HOOVER BEACH AND A FORMER DOCTORAL STUDENT AT UV IN ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCE AND A REALLY LIFELONG GARDENER.

I HAVE BEEN ASKED BY A GROUP OF MY RESIDENT FRIENDS TO LOOK INTO THE ADVANTAGE OF HAVING WEEPING WILLOW TREES NOT CUT DOWN IN THE AREA THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING AT THIS TIME.

INDEED, THERE'S MANY ADVANTAGES FOR HAVING WILLOW TREES.

IT PREVENTS SOIL EROSION WHILE CLEANING WATER RUNOFF.

IT FILTERS TOXINS AND DECONGESTANTS IN THE SOIL.

IT PRESENTS FIRE BREAKS, WHICH IS A THOUGHT FOR HOOTER BEACH DUE TO THE HIGH WATER CONTENT.

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UM, ANOTHER THING IS HOUSE PROTECTION AGAINST FAST STRONG WINDS.

WE LIVE IN ZONE FIVE, UH, FIVE B TO SIX A AND THESE TREES NEVER FALL DOWN.

WE, WE'VE ALL HAD THE EXPERIENCE OF MAPLE TREES IN OUR HOUSE.

WHEN SOMETHING FALLS DOWN, THE TWISTED WILLOWS ARE SAFE.

IT CLEANS WATER FROM THE ROAD RUNOFF AND THE LIFESPAN OF A WILLOW TREE IS 30 TO 50 YEARS.

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT'S A FABULOUS NESTING SITE FOR BIRDS AND WILDLIFE, WHICH WE DON'T WANNA LOSE.

I HOPE YOU'LL THINK ABOUT THIS IN A BOTANICAL WAY.

THANK YOU, DAWN POLITZ.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS DAWN POLITZ.

UM, I ACTUALLY RESIDE IN THE CITY OF BUCK CLUB.

I'VE HAD A, A NEW AND REFRESHING EXPERIENCE GETTING TO KNOW AND VISIT FRIENDS, UM, ON THE HOME ON, UH, HOOVER ROAD, ACTUALLY THE ONE RIGHT NEXT DOOR.

UM, I ALSO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ASSIST, UH, OTHER RESIDENTS, UM, IN THEIR HOMES WITH CLEANING AND SUCH LIKE THAT.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PLACE.

UM, SPEAKING TODAY TO POINT OUT WHY ALCHEMY SHORES WILL HURT THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA.

AND SIMPLY PUT, IT'S JUST MUCH TOO BIG FOR THIS LITTLE SPACE.

UH, HOOVER BEACH HAS 109 HOMES ON ABOUT 20 ACRES.

THEY HAVE A FABULOUS AND VERY ACTIVE COMMUNITY CENTER ON AN ACRE OF GREEN SPACE THAT ALSO HAS A BALL FIELD.

ALONG WITH THE LITTLE PLAYGROUND JUST NORTH OF THE HOOVER BEACH ASSOCIATION OF 109 HOMES LIES THE HISTORICAL BAYVIEW, UH, HOTEL, WHICH IS NOW CALLED THE COWBOY.

AND NORTH OF THAT HOTEL THERE ARE SIX MORE HOMES.

SO IN TOTAL IT'S 115 PRIVATE HOMES, ALL ON RELATIVELY SMALL LOTS THAT MAKE UP THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, SO READING WHAT ALCHEMY'S LAWYER KIM MASON WROTE ON PAGE 10, PARAGRAPH TWO, YOU CAN IMAGINE THE DISTRESS.

AND I QUOTE, BASED ON OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THE TOWN'S PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND CONSULTANTS, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE NC DISTRICT WAS CREATED IN THE AREA BY THE TOWN A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, NOT TO PROMOTE RESIDENTIAL USES THERE, BUT RATHER TO RECOGNIZE AND ACCOMMODATE A SERIES OF NON-CONFORMING RESIDENTIAL AND MINOR COMMERCIAL USES THAT HAD CROPPED UP IN THE AREA TO SERVE THE HISTORICALLY INDUSTRIAL CORRIDOR ALONG HOOVER ROAD AND LAKESHORE ROAD.

ROUTE FIVE ACCORDINGLY.

WHILE THERE ARE RESIDENCES IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF THE SITE, THE SITE IS LOCATED IN AN AREA OF THE TOWN HISTORICALLY DESIGNATED FOR LIGHT INDUSTRY COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY.

END QUOTE.

SO THOSE RESIDENCES ARE A TIGHT KNIT COMMUNITY OF HOMES THAT LOVE THEIR LITTLE PIECE OF AMERICA.

SO PLEASE, TOWN PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND CONSULTANTS LET THEM HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE WHO'S DECIDING ALL OF THIS FOR THEM? A SERIES OF NON-CONFORMING RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES IS WHO YOU WOULD RATHER RECOGNIZE THAN THEM.

UH, I STAND WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, MY FRIENDS IN HOOVER BEACH AND ON HOOVER ROAD.

ALCHEMY SHORES DOES NOT COMPLIMENT THE RESIDENTIAL AREA.

WITH 115 HOMES, MIXED USE ZONING IS BECOMING MORE POPULAR.

A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT DOES IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR RESIDENTS AS THEY CAN LIVE, WORK, OR SHOP WITHOUT GETTING IN A CAR.

BUT ALCHEMY SHORES DOES NOT PROVIDE THIS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

ALCHEMY SHORES DOES NOT PROVIDE IT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

ELEANOR HOBART, MY NAME IS ELEANOR HOBART.

I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF HAMBURG FOR 15 PLUS YEARS, AND I FEEL VERY BADLY AT THE EXISTENCE OF THE RESIDENT.

THE PEACEFUL EXISTENCE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF HOOVER ROAD IS BEING DESTROYED BY THE INVASION UPON THEM BY ALCHEMY.

PREVIOUSLY, THE PROPERTY WAS OCCUPIED BY A WAREHOUSE.

IT HAD NO COMPACT, NO IMPACT ON THE HOMEOWNERS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

ALCHEMY'S PLAN IS, IS FAR TOO SMALL A PARCEL, AN EQUALLY SMALL BUILDING WITH NO LEGAL ACCESS TO THE BEACH.

AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE AN EVENT SPACE.

THEY PLAN LARGE GATHERINGS OF 150 PLUS PEOPLE

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WITH LOUD MUSIC.

THEY PLAN TO USE THE NEXT DOOR SEWER LINE FROM THE NEIGHBOR SEWER.

THEY CREATE TOO MANY PEOPLE, TOO MANY CARS, TOO MUCH NOISE, AND TOO MUCH CRACK.

SEWAGE DESTRUCTION HAS ALREADY TAKEN PLACE WITH REMOVAL OF NECESSARY TREES AND GROWTH TO PROTECT THE BEACH FROM EROSION.

DESTRUCTION WILL CONTINUE AS THIS PEACEFUL NEIGHBORHOOD IS DESTROYED BY MEANS OF INCREASED TRAFFIC.

CARS PARKED ON THE NARROW ROAD.

LOUD MUSIC, LACK OF SECURITY, ESPECIALLY DRINKING AFFECTS PEOPLE'S FRAUD JUDGMENT.

THE HOMES MAY NOT BE AS SAFE, THE BEACHES WON'T BE SAFE.

WHAT IS THE PROTECT YOUR REACH, PRIVACY ON THEIR BEACH SPACE AND GENERAL UNREST.

NOW TO MENTION THE LOUD NOISE THAT WILL INFLICT PAIN ON NAN AND BEAST, THE QUALITY OF LIFE WILL DRASTICALLY CHANGE AS THE RESIDENTS LOSE THEIR PRIVACY.

NO SIGN WILL KEEP THEM OFF THE BEACH.

NO STRONG WARNING THAT THIS IS A HOMEOWNER'S PRIVATE AREA.

HOW CAN YOU ON THE TOWN BOARD IGNORE THE NEEDS OF YOUR HOMEOWNERS? THEY TREASURE THEIR HOMES AND WISH TO CONTINUE MAKING MEMORIES FOR GENERATIONS IN THE FUTURE.

WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU FIRST, AND YOU MAY NOT ANSWER THEM TONIGHT.

WE EXPECT EMAILS AS FAR AS A RESPONSE TO OUR GROUP, IT IS VERY CLEAR TO US THAT THE MINIMUM OF NEEDED GUESTS IS 175 PLUS A STAFF, WHICH WILL KILL QUICKLY FILL THE PARKING SPACE, UH, SPACES.

SORRY, I HAVE TO GO AHEAD TO THE NEXT SCREEN ON MY PHONE.

ON THE SITE PLAN.

WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN THE GUESTS PARK SOMEPLACE ELSE? MU ONE REQUIRES ON, ON ONSITE PARKING? WILL THE GUESTS BE TURNED AWAY? NUMBER TWO, WILL ALCHEMY HAVE A LIFEGUARD AL HAMBURG BEACH AND WOODLAWN? DO THEY WILL IF THEY'RE, IF THEY USE THE BEACH, WELL, THEY HAVE A LIFEGUARD.

NUMBER THREE, WILL ALCHEMY BE PERMITTED TO HAVE BEACH FIRES? NUMBER FOUR, IT HAS BEEN WRITTEN AND STATED THAT ALCHEMY HAS 200 LOAVES OF SAND ORDERED.

WHEN IS IT COMING AND WHERE WILL IT BE DEPOSITED? NUMBER FIVE, HOW WILL ALCHEMY SHADE THEIR DEATHS IN THE BAR AREA? HENCE UMBRELLAS SHA CLOTH.

THERE IS NO INDI INDICATION OF IT ON THE SITE PLAN.

QUESTION NUMBER SIX, WHAT IS THE FENCE SETBACK FROM A COMMERCIAL FOR A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS? QUESTION NUMBER SEVEN, WE WOULD LIKE TO CORRECT THE LOT SIZE, MANY DOCUMENTS LIST DIFFERENT ACREAGE NUMBER EIGHT ON ALL OUR MAPS, RANGING FROM JOSH ROGERS, THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE, AND A SIMPLE REALTOR'S MAP.

NONE OF THESE LOG DIAGRAMS INDICATE THAT ALCHEMY SHORE PROPERTY REACHES A WATER.

THIS IS MOST DRAMATIC ON THE PROPERTY LINE TO THE NORTH.

THE ACTUAL LAKE FRONT IS STATE OR ERIE COUNTY LAND.

CORRECT.

GUEST, UH, THE FACILITY POTEN POTENTIAL.

BEFORE WE PROCEED, WE, WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 15 SPEAKERS ON THIS ISSUE, PERHAPS MORE.

I JUST WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WE ARE LISTENING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS IS OUR SECOND PUBLIC HEARING.

WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE ONE.

WE ADDED AN EXTRA PUBLIC HEARING FOR GOOD MEASURE.

THIS TOWN BOARD IS GOING TO GREAT LENGTHS TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.

MANY OF THEM THAT YOU REPEATED, WE'VE ANSWERED AND WE WILL ANSWER THEM AGAIN.

BUT I TAKE ISSUE WITH THE ACCUSATION THAT THE TOWN BOARD IS DOING SOMETHING ONWARD THAT THE TOWN BOARD IS DOING IS NOT LISTENING TO RESIDENTS.

WE ARE GOING TO GREAT LENGTHS TO LISTEN TO RESIDENTS AND I WOULD JUST ASK EVERYBODY, WE'RE GONNA BE HERE FOR A WHILE TOGETHER, FOLKS, WE KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THIS IS A VERY EMOTIONAL AND VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR ALL OF US IN THIS ROOM.

BEFORE WE GET TOO MUCH FURTHER, I WOULD JUST ASK THAT WE CONSIDER USING A KIND AND PROFESSIONAL TONE IN OUR REMARKS.

MIKE DOHERTY.

I'M MIKE DOHERTY, UH, RESIDENT OF B BEACH AND I'VE BEEN THERE QUITE A FEW YEARS.

I KNOW THE COMMUNITY.

UM, I'D LIKE TO TOUCH ON ISSUES OF SAFETY AND SECURITY FOR THE RESIDENTS AND

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UM, WE WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SECURING PEOPLE ON THE BEACH.

WHAT SORT OF PARTIES WILL WE HAVE WHEN WE HAVE RAVING PARTIES ALL NIGHT ON THE BEACH? WE RESPECT, UH, DON CURFEW FOR THE MOST PART, AS RECOGNIZED BY THE STATE BEACH AND THE GENERAL COMMUNITY.

AND WE HAVE LONG STANDING RESTAURANTS, WHICH IS NOW THE COWBOY.

THEY, THEY TAKE MEASURES TO LIMIT OR PATRONS TO THE FACILITY, TO THE BEST ABILITY, AND THEY CUT DOWN THEIR MUSIC AT 11 O'CLOCK.

WHAT, WHAT TIME DO WE, WHAT TIME LIMITS DO WE HAVE ON PEOPLE GATHERING ON THE BEACH WITH OUT OF CONTROL ACTIVITIES AND PARTYING ALL NIGHT? DISTURBING THE PEACE.

WHO'S GOING TO PROVIDE SECURITY FOR THAT? THESE ARE QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ANSWERED BEFORE WE GO THROUGH WITH IT.

WHO IS GOING TO, IS, UH, THE STRENGTH POLICE DEPARTMENT GOING TO BE CALLED THERE EVERY NIGHT FOR DISTURBANCES? UH, THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE NEARBY SAFE? I WORRY ABOUT MY SISTER WHO LIVES RIGHT NEXT DOOR AND HER HUSBAND AND FAMILY.

THE PRIVACY WILL BE SHATTERED.

THERE HAS TO BE A LIMIT TO HOW LATE THESE, UH, FESTIVITIES GO ON AT NIGHT.

WE RESPECT THE NINE O'CLOCK PERVIEW THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY ON A BEACH.

THAT'S WHY AS WELL AS ESTABLISHED, WE HAVE ORDINANCES.

IS THIS AN EXCEPTION TO THE ORDINANCE? THERE'S A VERY SMALL PARCEL OF BEACH THAT IS ACTUALLY OWNED, WOULD BE OWNED BY THE ALCHEMY.

SEWERS IS THAT ENTITLED DOWN TO COR CAR DOWN THE WHOLE BEACH.

AND WHO'S GONNA POLICE THAT? I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY AND ALL OF THE PUBLIC.

AS WE SAW EARLIER TODAY, THAT WAS A BIG, HUGE, HUGE PIECE OF THE PIE OF THE, THE TOWN BUDGET WAS PUBLIC SAFETY.

THIS IS A THREAT AGAINST THAT HE SUPPLY AND THE MANPOWER THAT WE HAVE DEDICATED TO DOING OUR NORMAL JOB POLICING THE REST OF HAMBURG AND NOIC COMMUNITIES.

THAT'S ABOUT ALL I GOT.

MIKE VAN DALE.

HELLO, MY NAME IS MIKE VAN DALE.

I'LL BE READING TWO EMAILS TODAY.

UH, THE FIRST EMAIL FROM MARGARET VAN DALE TO, TO EACH OF THE FOLLOWING.

BOBBY AND NICOLE CASTLE, TG AND ANN MCINTOSH WAS SENT FROM MONDAY, AUGUST 14TH.

EMAIL.

DEAR ALCHEMY, YOU RECEIVED YOUR SEEKER ANSWERS FRIDAY AFTERNOON.

IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE ESTABLISHED AND FOUND YOUR BUILDING FEDERAL LINE, EXCEPT MY APOLOGIES FOR UNDER STRESS.

YOU WENT AHEAD AND HAD A NUCLEAR PIPE IN OUR LATERAL LINE BLOCKED OFF THAT CONNECTED THAT CONNECTION HAD HONESTLY CONCERNED ME A LONG TIME.

I'M GLAD YOU HAVE YOUR OWN LATERAL LINE AS STATED IN MANY OF YOUR ANSWERS AND WE OF OUR OWN LINE.

UH, THE SECOND EMAIL IS FROM KENNETH TO DALE ON AUGUST 22ND, IT READ AS FILES.

MS. DALE, PLEASE KNOW THAT I'M CONTACTING TJ MCINTOSH ON 7 18 20 23 TO INFORM HIM THAT HE NEEDS TO DISCONNECT FROM YOUR SEWER LATERAL AND IMPACTED THE PUBLIC MAIN IN FRONT OF THE PLATFORM ADDRESS.

I MADE THIS COMMUNICATION AFTER SPEAKING WITH ER COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, ER COUNTY SEW DEPARTMENT.

AND I WOULD LOVE TO FINISH BY SAYING I HAVE BEEN, BE AT MY PARENTS' HOUSE MANY TIMES AND ENJOYED PEACE AND TRANQUILITY OF THE BEACH.

NOT HEADING A BUNCH OF PEOPLE ALL ROAMING AROUND UNSUPERVISED.

UH, SUPERINTENDENT OF PUBLIC WORKS THAT HE CONTACTED TJ MACINTOSH ON JULY 18TH THIS YEAR, INFORMING 'EM TO DISCONNECT THEIR SEWER LINE FROM OUR PRIVATE SEWER LINE AND CONNECT TO THE PUBLIC MAIN IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTY ON HOOVER ROAD.

JAMES VAN DALE.

YES, I'M MARGARET'S HUSBAND.

UH, LIVE NEXT DOOR TO ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

UM, LIKE TO TALK ABOUT OUR SEWER LINE.

IT'S ALREADY BEEN DOCUMENTED.

MY SON SAID BY KEN TON, THE HAMBURG,

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IT'S NOW TWO MONTHS LATER AND IT HASN'T BEEN DONE.

THE ERIE COUNTY SEWER DEPARTMENT INFORMED US AS IN ORDER TO GET A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, ALCHEMY WOULD NEED THEIR OWN DEDICATED SEWER LINE TO ACCOMMODATE THEIR PROJECTED A HUNDRED PLUS OCCUPANTS.

SO MY QUESTION IS, WHY DON'T THEY HAVE THEIR OWN SEWER LINE YET AS A HAMBURG HOME HOMEOWNER, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY I SHOULD STILL BE PUMPING THEIR WASTE WITH MY PUMP, WHETHER THERE ARE 150 OCCUPANTS IN THEIR BUILDING OR TWO, UM, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT ALCHEMY SHOULD PERSONALLY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN SEWAGE.

UM, ON THE ISSUE OF WATER RUNOFF FROM THE ROOF, UM, I DIDN'T GET TO SEE THE NEW PLAN.

I WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

BUT OUR SELLER FILLS UP, LET US START THE PROJECT.

WE THANK THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO THE TOWN BOARD.

WE ASK THAT ALL OTHER COMMENTS, PLEASE BE STIFLED.

SO WE GET AN INCH OR SO, INCH OR TWO OF RAIN, HEAVY RAIN.

OUR CELLAR FLOODS.

WE FILED TWO COMPLAINTS WITH HAMBURG CODE ENFORCEMENT.

THIS YEAR ALONE.

THERE'S BEEN NO RESPONSES YET.

I WOULD EXPECT THAT THIS APPROVAL PROCESS, IN THIS APPROVAL PROCESS, ALCHEMY SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO IT, DIVERT THEIR RUNOFF EITHER BY RUNNING IT INTO THE, THEIR OWN PROPERTY, UH, MAKING BUR, UH, TO PROTECT US, OR BY CONNECTING TO THE STORM DRAINAGE SYSTEM THAT'S IN PLACE ON HOOVER ROAD.

I THINK THEY SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE REAL RAINWATER.

RESIDENTIAL AND MINOR COMMERCIAL USES.

THANK YOU MARGARET DALE.

GOOD EVENING BOARD.

AND YES, WE ARE REPEATING SOME OF THE SAME THINGS.

IT HAS BEEN A CONFUSING PROCESS AND IT IS NOT ONLY US WHO HAVE HELD UP THIS PROCESS.

I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SPOKE BEFORE ME.

AND I'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT I HAVE A BIG, GENTLE, BEAUTIFUL BERNESE MOUNTAIN DOG.

HE IS A RESCUE.

HE'S A VERY GOOD DOG AND I REALLY DO FEAR FOR HIS WELLBEING.

HE'S A GENTLE, TIMID DOG.

HE WON'T EVEN WALK NEAR THE BAYVIEW.

AND NOW, ONCE THE COWBOY, AND ONCE THESE THIS GETS STARTED, I'M VERY CONCERNED FOR HIS HEALTH.

AND I, I WOULD, IT WOULD BE TRAGIC TO HAVE TO REFOLD HIM.

UM, IT, IT SEEMS THAT THE COMMERCIAL EVENT CENTER TO BE ECONOMICALLY VIABLE, THEY HAVE STATED THAT THEY WOULD NEED A MINIMUM OF 175 GUESTS.

175 PEOPLE ON A VERY SMALL 185 FEET SPAN OF GROUND WOULD CAUSE AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF NOISE AND COMMOTION.

THEY'RE MORE WORRIED ABOUT MONEY THAN, UM, WELFARE OF US.

AND I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE HEALTH OF MY DOG AND THE PEOPLE IN MY HOME AND WHO LIVE NEXT TO.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADDRESS A TOPIC THAT HAS BEEN GOING OVER SEVERAL TIMES BECAUSE IT SEEMS AS THOUGH IT'S A VOLLEY GOING BACK AND FORTH.

DEAR MEMBERS, BOARD MEMBERS REGARDING THE TREES, I SIMPLY ASK THAT YOU SUPPORT US IN UPHOLDING THE DEC DIRECTIVES, THAT TREES ON THE BEACH MAY BE TRIMMED BUT NOT CUT DOWN.

I'M THANKFUL TO HAVE ALL OF THESE PHOTOS TO DOCUMENT THE REGROWTH AND I TRUST YOU WILL SUPPORT ME IN ALLOWING THESE TREES TO CONTINUE TO GROW.

THESE RULES ARE PUT IN PLACE FOR A VERY IMPORTANT REASON, AND IF THEY WOULD'VE TRIM THE TREES AS INSTRUCTED, THEY WOULD'VE A MORE VERTICAL LINE.

NOW THEY HAVE BUSHES ON THE SUBJECT OF THE COMMENTS MADE BY KIM MASON.

ON PAGE 10, THEIR LAWYER REPORTS, AND IT IS STATED THAT THE TOWN PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND CONSULTANTS DO NOT WANT, AND I'M QUOTING TO PROMOTE RESIDENTIAL USE HERE.

INSTEAD, THEY WOULD RATHER RECOGNIZE AND ACCOMMODATE A SERIES OF NON-CONFORMING

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THEY GO ON TO SAY WE ARE HISTORICALLY DESIGNATED FOR LIGHT INDUSTRY.

WE HAVE ONE FACTORY.

WE HAVE SOME TRUCKS THAT GO UP THE ROAD ON UBER EXTENSION.

THERE ARE 115 HOMES.

HOW IS THAT NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD? HOW IS IT? I SEE 115 HOMES.

MY HOME WAS BUILT IN 1924.

THE FIVE HOUSES SOUTH OF ME WERE BUILT IN THE TWENTIES AS WELL.

OUR NEIGHBOR, OUR SECTION OF NEIGHBORHOOD IS BASICALLY A HUNDRED YEARS OLD.

HOOVER BEACH HAS 109 HOMES AND MANY OF THE SAME VINTAGE, A HUNDRED YEARS OLD.

WE ARE A NEIGHBORHOOD, A CLOSE KNIT, HAPPY KIND GROUP.

I AM SORRY, A BIG WEDDING DOES NOT FIT IN.

UH, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADDRESS TRESPASSING, AS MY BROTHER STATED.

THE STATE PARK AT WOODLAWN PATROLS THE BEACH REGULARLY.

HAMBURG BEACH HAS THE HAMBURG POLICE.

ALCHEMY WILL NEED A TRAINED SECURITY GUARD AS WELL.

100 AND FEET OF BEACH ACCESS MUST BE CONTROLLED AND MONITORED WAY BACK IN MARCH.

UM, ANN MCINTOSH STATED A CONTRACT POLICY CONCERNING PARTY EVENTS AT THE VILLAGE, A CONTRACT SIGNED.

AND WHAT WHAT REALLY STRUCK ME WAS IF THEY USE GLITTER, THEY, THEIR RENTERS ARE REQUIRED TO PAY A FIVE, A $500 FINE CONSEQUENCES.

THEY WERE, I SUGGEST THAT THE SAME FOR ANY PATRONS WHO ENTER THE BEACH AFTER SUNSET.

IT'S A DAUNTED DUST.

A $500 FINE SHOULD BE IMPOSED ON THEM, AND A RE A POLICE REPORT SHOULD BE FILED.

ALL THE, UM, I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADDRESS THEIR HOURS OF OPERATION.

THEY SAID THEIR HOURS OF OPERATION ARE 10 TO 12.

WHEN THEY ARE, WHEN THEY ARE PROMOTING SUNSET YOGA, THAT WOULD START AT 6:00 AM ISN'T THAT HOUR OF OPERATION.

SO NOW WE'RE GOING FROM SIX TILL 12 WHERE THEY COULD GET A DRINK IN THE WAREHOUSE.

AND IS THAT LAST CALL, IS THAT GOING TO ONE O'CLOCK? UM, WE'VE GOT SO MANY MIXED SIGNALS.

WE STARTED OFF AT 50 PEOPLE.

WE WENT TO 125 PEOPLE.

YES, WE'RE CONFUSED AND WE'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.

ALCHEMY MEETS THE NEEDS OF VISITORS, NOT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

MU ONE WAS DESIGNED TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

PLEASE REVIEW THOSE DOCUMENTS.

THEY SAY IT IS A MIXED USE.

THEY WILL HAVE ALL TYPES OF THINGS TO SERVICE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I DON'T SEE IT AT ALL.

I JUST TORTURE.

THANK YOU DANOWSKI.

I SAW SOME MATERIALS.

I DON'T UNLESS YOU HAVE SOME THINGS THAT WERE POTENTIALLY EMAILED TO YOU.

WELL, I'M HERE.

UH, MY NAME IS DAN ALKI.

I'M A PRINCIPAL OF AURORA AL CONSULTANTS.

UH, UH, I HAVE 40 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN THE CONSULTING PROFESSION.

GOING BACK TO ANINE ACOUSTICAL CONSULTANTS.

WE HEARD OF THEM.

UH, WE WERE, UH, ASKED TO DO A NOISE ASSESSMENT OF THE, UM, EVENT FACILITY AT 3 7 8 HOOVER ROAD, AS IT MAY, UH, AFFECT THE RESIDENTS AT 3, 7, 8, 2, AND OTHER RESIDENTS NEIGHBORING.

UM, SO HOW DO WE DO THAT? UH, FIRST OF ALL, WE LOOKED AT HOW NOISE CODE, UM, CHAPTER 1 75 AND 1 75 DASH TWO SECTION SAYS, UM, A, THE CREATION OF ANY UNNECESSARY AND UNREASONABLY LOUD OR DISTURBING NOISE IS PROHIBITED AS A PUBLIC NUISANCE.

B, NOISE IS SUCH CHARACTER INTENSITY AND DURATION IS TO BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE LIFE.

HEALTH OR WELFARE OF THE INHABITANTS IN TOM HAMBURG IS PROHIBITED AS PUBLIC NUISANCE.

IN PARTICULAR, ALL SLEEP DISTURBING NOISES ARE

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PROHIBITED OR OCCURRING BETWEEN THE HOURS BETWEEN 11:00 PM AND 7:00 AM.

SO, UM, I DO DETERMINE WHAT'S UNREASONABLE OR REASONABLY LOUD.

ONE WAY WE LIKE TO USE IS, UH, IS TO REFERENCE THE NEW YORK STATE DEC UM, NURSE ASSESSMENT PROGRAM POLICY.

AND, UH, THEY STATES, UH, UH, THEIR ASSESSMENTS BASED UPON INCREASES, UH, FROM, UH, A SOURCE ABOVE THE EXISTING AMBIENT SOUND ELEMENT IN THE STAKE INCREASES RANGING FROM ZERO TO THREE DB SHOULD HAVE NO OCRE EFFECT ON RECEPTORS.

INCREASES FROM THREE TO SIX DB MAY HAVE POTENTIAL FOR ADVERSE ARIES IMPACT ONLY IN CASES WHERE THE MOST SENSITIVE OF RECEPTORS ARE PRESENT.

SOUND PRESSURE INCREASES OF MORE THAN SIX DB MAY REQUIRE CLOSER ANALYSIS, UH, DEPENDENT UPON THE EXISTING SOUND PRESSURE LEVELS AND THE CHARACTER OF THE SOUND IN LAND USE AND RECEPTORS.

UM, AN INCREASE OF 10 DBA, THERES CONSIDERATION OF AVOIDANCE AND MITIGATION IN MOST CASES AND IN NON-INDUSTRIAL SETTINGS, UH, THE SBL SHOULD PATIC CD AM BOID BY THAN 60 BA, UM, AN INCREASE OF 60 BA MORE IT MAY CAUSE COMPLAINTS.

UM, SO HOW DO WE DO THAT? WE WENT AND MADE SOME MEASUREMENTS AT THE, UH, BOUNDARY BETWEEN 3 7 80 AND 3 7 8 2 HOOVER ROAD, TWO LOCATIONS, FRONT YARD, UM, BACKYARD AT THE SEATING AREA, UM, MEET SOME MEASUREMENTS, DETERMINE THE AVERAGE AMBIENT ZONE LEVEL.

AND, UH, UM, IN THE FRONT OF THE YARD WE MADE MEASUREMENTS RANGING FROM 41 TO 44 DBA AND IN THE REAR YARD, UM, 47 DBA.

SO THESE ARE TYPICAL TO SUBURBAN ENVIRONMENTS.

SO HOW DO WE ASSESS THE FACILITY AUDIENCE? WELL, UM, WE HAVE A DATABASE OF SOUND LEVELS OF VARIOUS OUTDOOR EVENTS INCLUDING MUSIC, UM, CROWDS, PEOPLE, UH, UH, PROJECT MUSIC AND, AND OTHER ACTIVITIES.

UM, CARS IN THE PARKING LOTS AND SO ON.

SO, UM, WE HAVE A, UH, COMPUTERIZED NOISE ASSESSMENT MODEL THAT WE USE.

WE CAN PLUG IN, UM, THE SITE PLAN AND, UH, SOURCE LOCATIONS AND RUN CALCULATIONS AND SEE WHAT THE, UM, PREDICTED SOUND LEVEL ARE GONNA BE AT THE BOUNDARY LINE AND AT RECEPTORS.

UM, SO WE DID THAT, UM, FOR AN STUDENT SITE PLAN BACK IN JULY.

UH, THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS PROVIDED BY THE, THE DEVELOPER'S CONSULTANT, WHICH WE RESPONDED TO IT IN THE PACKET.

AND, UM, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS, WELL, WE DIDN'T REALLY USE THE, UH, ACTUAL SITE PLAN.

WELL, WE TOOK THE SITE PLAN FROM THE SEPTEMBER 22ND SUBMISSION BY THE DEVELOPER'S ATTORNEYS AND PLUGGED IT INTO OUR, OUR MODEL ADJUSTED THE SOURCE LOCATIONS AND HEIGHTS AND RANSOM CALCULATIONS.

UM, IN BOTH CASES, BOTH IN OUR ORIGINAL JULY ASSESSMENT AND IN OUR RECENT OCTOBER UPDATE, WE'RE FINDING THAT THERE, UH, FOR THE MAJORITY OF ACTIVITIES ARE POTENTIAL, UM, 20 30 40 DBA INCREASES ABOVE THE AMBIENT SOUND LEVEL, WHICH, UH, IN OUR OPINION ARE GONNA PROVIDE SUBSTANTIAL, UH, IN OBJECTIONAL INCREASES IN THE, UM, NEW YORK STATE DEC MANUAL STATES, UM, INCREASES FROM 15 TO 20 DB MAY BE OBJECTIONABLE AND OVER 20 MAY BE VERY OBJECTIONABLE TO INTOLERABLE.

SO THAT'S THE SORT OF RANGE THAT WE FOUND FROM OUR ASSESSMENTS.

UH, AND TO BE FAIR, WE LOOKED AT MITIGATIONS OF, UH, A BARRIER OR A BARRIER ON TOP OF A BERM.

WE FOUND ONLY VERY LIMITED NOISE REDUCTION AS AFFORDED BY, BY A BARRIER ALONG WITH PROPERTY LINE BETWEEN 3 7 8 AND 3 7 8 2.

UM, SO WHAT DO YOU DO? UM, I THINK THERE HAS TO BE SOME CONSIDERATION TO LIMITING, UM, GENERATED SOUND LEVELS OUTSIDE, WHICH MAY BE RESTRICTING MUSIC OR LIMITING THE LEVEL CONSIDERABLY OF MUSIC, POSSIBLY LIMITING LOCATIONS OF ACTIVITIES POSSIBLY LIMITING THE OCCUPANCY OF, OF, OF THE EVENTS OUTSIDE.

UM, ALL THESE THINGS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED TO PROVIDE A GREATER NOISE REDUCTION OFFENSE MAY PROVIDE IN THE RECENT PLAN ONLY FOUR DB NOISE REDUCTION.

WE NEED 20, WE NEED 25 OR 30 IN SOME CASES TO GET DOWN CLOSE TO THE AMBIENT LEVEL OF 41 47.

ANYBODY, ANY QUESTIONS? DOES, ARE ALL THESE NOISE STUDIES ALL WITH OUTDOOR MUSIC OR HAVE YOU FACTORED THE NOISE LEVEL INSIDE? NO, WE DID NOT DO ANY STUDIES OF TRANSMISSION OF OUTDOOR OR INDOOR TO OUTDOOR SOUND LEVELS THAT

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WOULD BE POSSIBLY A SECONDARY SOURCE.

IT DEPENDS UPON THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE BUILDING, WHICH WE DID LOOK AT.

UM, THE, UH, ASSESSMENTS ARE BASED UPON MEASUREMENTS WE MADE OF OUTDOOR MUSIC EVENTS AND CROWDS, TAVERNS, THAT SORT OF THING.

UM, CARS AND PARKING LOTS TRAVELING ON GRAVE ROAD.

UM, THAT'S ANOTHER POTENTIAL IMPACT SINCE I'M NOT KNOWLEDGEABLE AT ALL IN, UM, THE LINE OF WORK YOU'RE IN.

UH, APOLOGIZE, IT'S A SILLY QUESTION, BUT IS THERE A DEVICE THAT ESTABLISHED, UM, RESTAURANTS, BARS, EVENT CENTERS, UM, HAVE PEOPLE AND THE EQUIPMENT TO GO ON SITE AT VARIOUS TIMES DURING OPERATION TO ACTUALLY JUDGE IF IT'S WITHIN CODE, IF IT'S ABOVE CODE, IF IT'S BELOW CODE THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF? YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S TWO THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE IS THEY HAVE A TRAINED OPERATOR WITH A SOUND LEVEL METER THAT COULD TAKE MEASUREMENTS ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE, UM, DURING AN EVENT.

AND COMPARE THAT TO MEASUREMENTS OF BACKGROUND SOUND LEVELS.

UM, THERE ARE CONCERT EVENT MONITORING SYSTEMS THAT HAVE A, UM, A MICROPHONE AND A SET THRESHOLD WHERE THE EVENT PRODUCES TOO MUCH NOISE.

YOU'RE GONNA GET A, A YELLOW SIGNAL AND THEN AGAIN GET A RED SIGNAL.

AND ONCE THAT HAPPENS, YOU MIGHT HAVE AN ALERT, UM, TO THE SOUND SYSTEM OPERATOR.

YOU MAY GET A TEXT MESSAGE OF THE TYPES OF NOTIFICATIONS LIKE THAT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THE COST OF THAT TYPE OF, UH, EQUIPMENT WOULD BE? I, I DON'T, NO, I I COULD RESEARCH THAT IF YOU'RE INTERESTED AND IN AND IN YOUR EXPERIENCE OR YOUR KNOWLEDGE, IS IT UP TO THE OWNER OR IS IT THE MUNICIPALITY THAT, UM, ENFORCES THE CODES THAT TAKES CARE OF JUDGING IF THE WE, IF THE THE NOISE IS TOO HIGHER OR ADEQUATE? WELL, IF, IF THE COMMUNITY HAS, UM, A TRAINED ZONING, UH, OFFICIAL OR SOMEONE ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT IS TRAINED IN HIS, THE EQUIPMENT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S CERTAINLY ONE OPTION.

ARE YOU AWARE OF ANYBODY THAT DOES IT? I THINK AMHERST USED TO HAVE SOME LEVEL METER, RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW THE STA THERE ARE SEVERAL MUNICIPALITIES THAT HAVE DECIBEL LEVELS WRITTEN INTO THEIR TOWN CALLED HAMBURG DOES NOT.

UM, THIS PRESENTATION WAS VERY INFORMATIVE AND JUST AS, I MEAN WE DID GET THIS AS WELL FROM MR. ANO WHEN HE ORIGINALLY PRESENTED IT.

WE ARE IN RECEIPT OF THIS REPORT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

FRANCINE GEIER.

HI, GOOD EVENING.

LEMME START BY SAYING THAT I HAVE NOTHING BUT THE UTMOST RESPECT FOR THIS BOARD, UM, SCOTT, SINCE I KNOW YOU HAVE REAL LIVES AND REAL JOBS AND SOME SECONDARY VOLUNTEER, ALTHOUGH I, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE SELLER IS INVOLVED, BUT I I, I DO HAVE ON REFERENCE BACK AND IF THERE'S ANY DISRESPECT RECEIVED, I ON BEHALF OF ALL OF US, I APOLOGIZE OR, YOU KNOW, ASSUME WE DIDN'T MEAN TO DISRESPECT ANYTHING IN THAT REGARD.

UM, FRANCINE GLEER 37 92 HOOVER ROAD, UM, SINCE 1997, ALMOST 30 YEARS NOW, I'VE BEEN ATTENDING AND TALKING TO MOST OF YOU FOR ALMOST A YEAR NOW.

SO YOU KNOW THAT, UM, I LIKE MANY OTHER TOWN RESIDENTS, I'M HERE.

I LIVE IN HANFORD FOR THIS LONG BECAUSE I HAVE A LEVEL THAT GARY, I, UM, PERSONALLY I'M RETIRED AND A LOT OF MY TIME IN RETIREMENT IS SPENT, IS SPENT VOLUNTEERING TO PROTECT LAKE GARY.

AND IT'S TO SAVE HER FROM HARM.

AND I KNOW THIS SOUNDS CORNY, BUT I JUST WANNA HOLD HER IN MY ARMS AND CODDLE HER AT ALL TIMES AND PROTECT HER AND SAVE HER FROM HARM.

AND THAT SAID, THE ALCHEMY SHORE BUSINESS MODEL SOUNDS REALLY GOOD.

IT'S A PERFECT FIT.

I'M NOT GONNA LIE.

VOLLEYBALL, BOCCE BALL, KITE SURFING FESTIVALS, LATE THEMED STUFF, QUIET CHAMPAGNE SIPPING ON THE WATERFRONT ALL FITS.

SO IT'S KIND OF CONTRACTS WHAT EVERYBODY'S BEEN SAYING SO FAR.

MY PROBLEM ALL AROUND AND ALWAYS WILL BE IS THAT EVERYTHING FITS EXCEPT FOR LOUD NOISE, AMPLIFIED OUTDOOR MUSIC.

THAT IS WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT FOR ME PERSONALLY.

I, I DON'T LIKE DISRUPTIONS TO HUMANS OR NON-HUMAN.

CAN ANIMALS HEAR ABOUT MUSIC? YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT ANIMALS TONIGHT.

A LITTLE KIND OF GOOFY IN SOME WAYS, BUT WHAT ARE THEIR BEHAVIORAL CHANGES? I'VE SEEN ANIMALS REACT TO FIREWORKS EVERY JULY OR A WHOLE MONTH ON LAKE ERIE.

I KNOW THOUGH, THAT'S ANIMALS RESPONDING TO FIREWORKS.

I THINK THEY HAVE THE SAME RESPONSE TO LOUD MUSIC.

DON'T KNOW.

I'M NOT A SCIENTIST, I'M NOT AN ANIMAL EXPERT,

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ALTHOUGH MY DAUGHTER'S A VETERINARIAN, SHE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP WITH THAT.

UM, I, I KNOW THAT THIS TOWN BOARD IN FRONT OF ME HAS PROVEN YOURSELVES TO BE EFFECTIVE, BOLD CHANGE AGENTS.

THAT'S WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THIS BOARD.

YOU'RE WILLING TO PUSH THE LIMITS AND MAKE CHANGES IN OUR TOWN.

AND FOR THAT, I RESPECT YOU ALL AND THAT'S WHY I LIKE YOU ALL.

AND THAT'S WHY I THINK YOU HAVE THE COURAGE TO LOOK AT THE MU ONE ZONING AND JUST SIT, MAKE IT SIMPLE.

IT'S TOO OPEN, IT IS TOO LENIENT BECAUSE WHAT'S GONNA START NOW I'M A PROJECT MANAGER, SO I KNOW WHAT SCOPE CREEP IS.

IT'S STARTING OFF WITH ONE BUSINESS PLAN AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THINGS GO OUT OF CONTROL.

MY CONCERN IS, I PROMISE YOU THAT THE LONG-TERM PICTURE WILL BE THAT SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, THIS PLACE WILL BE OPERATING AS A CONTINUOUS MICRA ON THE LAKE BEACH BAR ACTIVITY, OUTDOOR MUSIC DAILY AND NIGHTLY.

WE ARE OPENING THE DOOR TO A BEACH CLUB NIGHTCLUB RESTAURANT BAR, WEDDING EVENT CENTER.

IT'LL BE A WEDDING EVENT CENTER THAT ACTS LIKE A BAR THAT LOOKS LIKE A RESTAURANT AND IT SORT OF SEEMS LIKE A NIGHTCLUB, BUT IT ACTS LIKE A BEACH CLUB TOO.

THIS IS WHAT WE ENVISION FOR THE, IS THIS WHAT WE WANT FOR THE TOWN FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS? MAYBE IT IS.

I DON'T THINK THAT IT ALIGNS TO THE TOWN PLAN FUTURE FORWARD, BECAUSE I'VE READ IT.

I KNOW WHAT THE PLAN LOOKS LIKE.

THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES AS DETERMINED BY A SURVEY OF TOWN RESIDENTS IN 2021 INDICATE THAT THE TOP GUIDING PRINCIPLES ARE TO CULTIVATE AND PROTECT OUR STRONG HEALTHY NEIGHBORHOODS AND S AND TO PROTECT AND ENHANCE OUR ENVIRONMENTAL ASSETS.

NOT GONNA READ 'EM ALL BECAUSE I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME, BUT BOTH ARE THE TWO TOP BULLETS AND THAT'S ACTUALLY PERFECT BECAUSE THAT THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENING TO ME AS ALWAYS.

THANKS VINCENT.

PETER .

WELL, I'M PETER GMAN, NOT FRONT 3 7 9 2 GUILLO.

AND WE DO BELIEVE THAT YOU GUYS ARE LISTENING TO US.

YOUR COMMENT, BUT RESOLUTION OR THE DOCUMENT YOU GUYS PRINTED OUT AROUND AUGUST 14TH, IT SHOWED THAT YOU ALL LISTENED, WE GUESS, WHO CONTINUE TO LISTEN TO US AND BE IN OUR FAVOR SINCE I LIVED THERE.

THEREFORE, I HAVE EXPERIENCED WHAT'S LIKE LIVE WITHIN A HUNDRED FEET WITHOUT OUTDOOR MUSIC, SOUND SPECIALISTS OR NOT.

I LIVE THERE.

I HEAR IT, I KNOW WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE.

WE BELIEVE THERE SHOULD BE NO OUTDOOR MUSIC.

IT SHOULD NOT BE AMPLIFIED ALL THE TIME.

COULD BE BOLD AND UPDATE THE ZONING TO NO OUTDOOR MUSIC.

AMPLIFIED OUTDOOR MU MUSIC SHOULD BE A PRIVILEGE AND LIMITED TO BUSINESSES WITH SIGNIFICANT DISTANCE FOR RESIDENTIAL AREAS, HUNDRED FEET AWAY FROM A RESIDENT AND ON THREE ACRES OF LAND IS NOT SUFFICIENT DISTANCE.

SURE.

THEY OFFER TO GIVE US A FENCE.

FENCES ARE PROPRIETARY FENCES DO NOT STOP.

WE SHOULD STOP REFERRING TO FENCES AS NOISE REDUCTION.

THEY DO NOT REDUCE NOISE.

A FUNCTION WITH 175 PEOPLE AND A LEVEL OF NOISE OF OUTDOOR MUSIC, SOUND SYSTEMS, BANDS WILL NOT WORK.

FENCES ONLY FUNCTION AS NOISE REDUCTION TOOLS CONSTRUCTED OF SOUND REDUCTION MATERIAL, PROPER ENGINEERING.

LET'S CALL NOISE BARRIERS LIKE THE THREE-WAY USES.

AND I KNOW I LIVE A HUNDRED FEET FROM LIVE MUSIC BETWEEN ME AND THE BAR.

THERE ARE TWO FENCES, TWO ROWS OF HEDGES AND A HOUSE.

IT DOESN'T MATTER, IT'S JUST TOO CLOSE.

ALRIGHT? THEY, THEY WANT TO MOVE THEIR BANDSTAND AS FAR AS POSSIBLE AWAY FROM REJO RESIDENCE.

THAT DISTANCE IS SIMPLY NOT FAR ENOUGH.

ONE EVENT CENTERS BELONG ON MEGA ACRES OF LAND.

HAMBURG HAS TO, THEY HAVE LEGACY IN 18 MILE CREEK THAT HAS LIKE 10 ACRES, WHICH IS THREE TIMES YOUR SIZE.

DEVONTE MAN SITS ON 25 ACRES, BUT GO TALK TO THEIR NEIGHBORS AND THEY'LL TELL YOU THEY STILL HEAR LOUD OUTDOOR MUSIC ON WEDDING NIGHTS.

AND WHAT ABOUT THE MAN TO HEAD, THE POOR MILITARY GUARD? HE HAD TO MOVE OUTTA THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE HE JUST COULDN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE.

ALL OF OUR HOMES HAVE BEEN, REGARDLESS OF ZONING SINCE THE TWENTIES, WE'RE DEFENDING OUR HOMES.

WE WERE HERE FIRST LATE OR NOT BUSINESS, RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL.

WE LIVE HERE.

WE HAD NO VOICE.

WHEN WE GOTTA ARGUE ABOUT THE BABY BEACH CLUB, DR.

THE BAY DOS SOME EAGLES AND NOW THE COWE BAR PRETTY CUT AND DRY.

THEY WERE HERE FIRST.

WHAT WE WERE TOLD, WHETHER WE BELONG HERE OR NOT, WE ARE HERE.

WE'RE GOING TO STAY HERE.

WE NOT ACCEPT

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AND MANAGE HEALTH WELFARE OF BEING SANDWICHED BETWEEN TWO LOUD CLUBS, EVENTS, CENTERS, WEDDING VENDORS, OR WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT.

ANOTHER POINT, WE ALL JUST KEEPS TALKING ABOUT BEACH ACCESS.

WE'VE RESEARCHED THE ACCESS AND THEIR PROPERTY LINES DO NOT GO TO THE WATER.

THEIR SHORELINE, IT SITS BEHIND YOUR SITE.

WE'RE ALL ABOUT BEACH ACCESS.

WE LIVE THERE.

I SEE PEOPLE WALKING THAT BEACH EVERY DAY IN FRONT OF THEIR BEACH.

GO ON SUNDAY AFTERNOON IN THE SUMMER.

AND IT'S ALL LOADED WITH BOTH THROUGHOUT USING THAT BEACH, IT'S PUBLIC OWNERSHIP.

THAT BEACH BELONGS EITHER ERIE COUNTY OR NEW YORK STATE.

IT SHOULDN'T BE SUBJECT TO A BUSINESS OF WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH IT.

THANK YOU CHELSEA O'SHAUGHNESSY.

UM, HI EVERYBODY.

UM, I'M CHELSEA O'SHAUGHNESSY.

UM, I ACTUALLY JUST BOUGHT A HOUSE IN HAMBURG.

I'M REALLY EXCITED.

I LOVE HAMBURG.

I GREW UP IN HAMBURG.

I WANNA LIVE IN HAMBURG AGAIN.

SO WE'RE PRETTY HAPPY TO BE BACK HERE.

UM, I'M STANDING UP HERE AGAINST THE REZONING OF 3 7 80 HOOVER ROAD TO THAT BEING ONE.

UM, MOSTLY BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU HEARD TALK ABOUT THE MUSIC AND THE NOISE, BUT I'M ALSO FEARFUL THAT THIS NEW ZONING CAN HAPPEN TO ANYBODY ELSE IN HAMBURG.

YOU KNOW, BEING A NEW HOMEOWNER IN HAMBURG, MY HOUSE BACKS UP TO A PROPERTY OF WOODS.

YOU KNOW, WHAT'S TO SAY? SOMEONE'S NOT GONNA COME DOWN.

AND NOW THIS ARE MY NEW HOME IN MY NEW BACKYARD.

UM, GROWING UP IN HOOVER ROAD, I HAD TO ENDURE A LOT OF DRUNKEN FLIGHTS OUTSIDE OF OUR HOUSE AND PARKING LOTS AT MIDNIGHT.

UM, FALLING ASLEEP TILL A LOT OF MUSIC NEXT DOOR BACK AT THE BAY.

WE HAD TO LISTEN TO MOTORCYCLES REV UP, UP AND DOWN THE STREET ALL THE TIME.

AND NOW THIS NEW ZONING IS COMING OUT, THINGS THAT FEARFUL THIS IS GONNA HAPPEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HOUSES.

UM, AGAIN, I JUST HAD A BABY.

SO THE IDEA OF MY MOM AND DAD BABYSITTING MY KID NEXT DOOR TO THE COWBOY BAR.

NOW THIS NEW WEDDING VENUE THAT KIND OF GOES OUT THE WINDOW OF ALL THE NOISE COMING OUT THERE TOO.

SO WHAT, WHEN YOU BUY A HOUSE OR NEXT DOOR WILL QUIET NINE TO FIVE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS, YOU DON'T EXPECT TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS, 10 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A WEDDING VENUE MOVE NEXT DOOR TO AMPLIFY MUSIC.

LESS THAN 500 OR 50 FEET PLANTED FROM A HOME RIGHT BACK AGAINST FIGHTING THE SIREN PEOPLE.

PROGRESSIVE PROMISE OF PLANNING AND MORE PUBLIC ETHIC IS A GREAT THING, BUT NEEDS TO BE A RIGHT WAY AND THE WRONG WAY TO DO THIS.

AND WITH A BEAUTIFUL WEDDING HERE AT THE COWBOY BAR, ANOTHER WEDDING VENUE DOWN AT BEACH, YOU DON'T NEED ANOTHER ONE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE.

YOU KNOW, UM, AMPLIFYING MUSIC IS A FEAR HERE, AS ARE MANY NEIGHBORHOODS.

OTHER FEAR.

UM, SO I'M AGAINST THIS REZONING AND THE USE OF U ONE.

KNOW THE WORK CAN MAKE BETTER SPECIFICATIONS TO WHAT IT MEANS.

UM, ANY PLACE OF ALCOHOL OR ANY PLACE OF OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED MUSIC SHOULD NOT BE PLACED AS CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

OBVIOUSLY THESE ARE JUST SUGGESTIONS AND EXAMPLES THAT THE ZONING ALLOWANCE IS TOO BROAD AND THEREFORE IT'S HARD TO SAY WHAT IT ISN'T, ISN'T ALLOWED TO DO AN EVENT.

VENUE SHOULD NOT ASK FOR DIFFERENT ALLOWANCES, SHOULD MINIMUM AND PARCEL SIZE, AND IT SHOULD PROVEN AND COMMIT TO DIFFERENT SOUND MITIGATING FACTORS BEFORE ALLOWED TO RESIDE THERE.

PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING HERE.

PROTECT OUR FAMILY, PROTECT THE OTHER FAMILIES IN HAMBURG.

ANYONE ELSE WHO COULD BE UNKNOWINGLY GETTING STUCK WITH THE MU ONE AREA BEHIND THEIR HOUSE.

HELLO? UM, MY NAME IS TRAVIS BROWN.

I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN THIRTY SEVEN EIGHTY FOUR HOOVER ROAD, UH, NEXT DOOR TO THE ALCHEMY SHORES PROPERTY.

UM, NOT, I'M NOT ONLY A NEIGHBOR, BUT I'M A CONSTRUCTION PROFESSIONAL WITH OVER TWO DECADES OF EXPERIENCE, UH, BOTH WITH 10 PLUS YEARS IN THE FIELD BEFORE MY PARA ASSIST.

I'M NOW 10 PLUS YEARS IN THE OFFICE, SO I'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, A, A WELL AMOUNT OF KNOWLEDGE IN THIS.

UM, SPEAKING TODAY TO PUBLICLY OPPOSE THE REZONING PARCEL OF, UM, TO U ONE FOR THE COMMERCIAL EVENT CENTER.

ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS, UH, THAT MYSELF AND MY NEIGHBORS OPPOSED THIS, UH, PROJECT IS BECAUSE OF THE NOISE OF THE ALCHEMY SHORES ARE GENERATED.

YOU KNOW, IT WAS CONCLUDED BY INDEPENDENT STUDIES BY AURORA ASSOCIATION CONSULTANTS.

UH, THE DECIBEL LEVEL INCREASE WOULD BE CONSIDERED TO BE INTOLERABLE UNDER DC GUIDELINES.

UM, THE APPLICANTS, UH, HAS MADE LACKLUSTER ATTEMPTS TO MITIGATE THE NOISE IMPACTS AND THE SUPPLEMENTS, YOU KNOW, MOST RECENT SUBMITTED.

UM, ON ONE HAND THEY OFFER A HANDFUL OF SPECULA SPECULATIVE DESIGN UPDATES AIMED AT MITIGATING NOISE.

THESE INCLUDE, UH, PDO SCIENTIFIC APPLICATION OF SOUNDPROOF PAINT, WHICH INCLUDE, UH, WHICH ACOUSTICAL EXPERTS ROUNDLY

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AGREE DOES NOT DO, UM, ANYTHING TO ESPECIALLY LIMIT NOISE.

UM, ESPECIALLY IN REGARD TO THE LOW AND HIGH FREQUENCIES TYPICALLY ASSOCIATED WITH AMPLIFIED MUSIC AND SOUNDS.

UH, THEY ALSO INCLUDE THE RELOCATION OF SOME OUTDOOR GATHERING AREAS.

SO AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, THESE RELOCATIONS WOULD INVOLVE POINTING OTHER SPEAKERS DIRECTLY AT OUR PROPERTIES OR INCREASING, UH, THE DISRUPTION FOR, UH, CARBON ACTIVATED.

UH, THEY DO NOT ALL ADDRESS THE NEW ADDITIONS TO THE SITE PLAN, UH, WHICH INCLUDES THE INSTALLATION OF OUTDOOR BAR AREAS FOR FOOD TRUCKS AND SERVICE, UH, NEW GAMING COURTS FOR OUTDOOR COURTS.

UH, THIS OUTDOOR, NO OUTDOOR NOISE CANNOT BE CONTROLLED.

I WOULD MOVE THAT THESE SOLUTIONS ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT SUFFICIENT FOR MITIGATING THE ISSUES WITH NOISE AS MUCH AS THE APPLICATION MAY WISH TO PORTRAY, UH, THAT AND THAT ANY SUPPLEMENTAL ADDRESSING NOISE ISSUES SHOULD BE ADDRESSED IN ITS ENTIRETY OF THE UPDATED SITE PLANNING, WHICH HAS CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY SINCE OUR INITIAL ACOUSTIC REPORTS AND THE APPLICATION TRULY WISHES TO NOT DISRUPT THE CHARACTER OF THE COMMUNITY.

WE SHOULD AGREE THAT THE ORIGINAL CONDITION OF NO OUTDOOR AMPLIFI, UH, AS A CONSTRUCTION PROFESSIONAL, I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT A CO OF SUPPOSEDLY SOUNDPROOF PAINT WOULD NOT DO THE TRICK, ESPECIALLY TO TRY TO TRY AND CONTROL OUTDOOR SOUND.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

BUT WE SHOULD GET OUT OF THE WAY AND LET THEM DO WHATEVER THEY WANT.

YOU ORY YOU TO WATCH THE BABY NICK BOWER.

GOOD EVENING TOWN BOARD.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

MY NAME IS NICOLE BRAUN.

I RESIDE AT 37 90 HOOVER ROAD, ABOUT 150 FEET FROM THE ALCHEMY SHORES PROPERTY.

I READ THE SUPPLEMENT THAT THE APPLICANTS PROVIDED IN OUR LAST MEETING, AND I'M OUTRAGED BY THEIR ARROGANT IMPLICATIONS THAT MY LIFE, MY HOME, AND MY NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULD BE OVERLOOKED AND ERASED JUST SO THEY CAN FORCE THIS REZONING PROPOSAL THROUGH THE TOWN.

MY OPINION, A VOTE TO REONE IS PARCEL OF MU ONE FOR COMMERCIAL EVENT CENTER WOULD BE A VOTE TO ERADICATE MY NEIGHBORHOOD OF POTENTIALLY ALL RESIDENTIAL HOMES ON HOOVER ROAD.

NOT ONLY WOULD THE REZONING BE CATA CATASTROPHIC TO THE CHARACTER OF MY COMMUNITY, BUT THE APPLICANTS MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT MY COMMUNITY SHOULD NOT EVEN EXIST IN THE FIRST PLACE IN ORDER TO FURTHER THEIR OWN AGENDA.

I AM NOT SPEAKING.

OUT OF TURN.

HERE ARE QUOTES FROM THE SUPPLEMENT SECTION THREE ENTITLED LAND USE BACKGROUND CLAIMS TO CHARACTERIZE THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN WHICH MY FAMILY HAS LIVED FOR DECADES BY REFERRING TO EXISTING ZONING LAW, QUOTE, THE M TWO DISTRICT AND THE WATERFRONT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT PREDOMINATE THE AREA OF SURROUNDING THE SITE WITH SELECT SHORELINE PARCELS DESIGNATED AS NEIGHBORHOOD, COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND C THOSE SELECT SHORELINE PARCELS, I SHOULD KNOW, ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY MAKE UP THE MAJORITY OF THE PARCELS ON HOOVER ROAD.

THEY ARE PRIVATE HOMES AND THEY, AND THEY ATTEMPT TO CATEGORIZE THEM AS THE EXCEPTION IS OBVIOUSLY DONE IN ERROR IN BAD FAITH BY AN APPLICANT IN PATIENT TO OPEN A BUSINESS THAT WE DON'T WANT OR NEED.

BUT TO CONTINUE ANOTHER QUOTE FROM THEIR SUPPLEMENT, THOUGH THERE ARE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL HOMES IN THE NC DISTRICT, THAT DISTRICT IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE A COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT.

THE NC DISTRICT WAS CREATED IN THE AREA BY THE TOWN A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, NOT TO PROMOTE RE RESIDENTIAL USES THERE.

BY THE WAY, THIS WAS REZONED TO NC BY MY PARENTS WHO BOUGHT, WHO BROUGHT IT TO THE ATTENTION OF THE TOWN 35 YEARS AGO WHEN THEY COULDN'T RECEIVE A MORTGAGE FOR THEIR HOME 'CAUSE THEY WERE ZONED INCORRECTLY.

THIS WAS NOT SOME BIG TOWN AGENDA TO REMOVE US.

THEY WERE LITERALLY CORRECTING A MISTAKE THE TOWN HAD MADE IN ZONING US THIS WAY.

SORRY, ALCHEMY.

IT'S NOT THAT DEEP.

WHILE THIS QUOTE SOUNDS RELATIVELY DULL, THE IMPLICATION IS SHOCKING TO THE APPLICANT AND THEIR ATTORNEY.

MY EXISTENCE IS AN INCONVENIENCE, AN EXCEPTION, AND A, MY HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1926, ALMOST 100 YEARS AGO, AND THEY PURCHASED THEIR PROPERTY LESS THAN A YEAR AGO.

BUT TO THEM, I'M THE ONE WHO DOES NOT BELONG.

MY FAMILY'S BEEN HERE FOR THREE GENERATIONS, BUT TO ALCHEMY SHORE, WE ARE AN ABERRATION.

THEY'RE QUOTING ZONING REGULATIONS AND MAKING ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT THE LOGIC BEHIND 'EM TO GET RID OF US.

THE PRESENCE OF EIGHT HOLES OF MINI GOLF AND A HOTDOG STAND IS APPARENTLY ENOUGH TO LEAD THEM TO CONCLUDE THAT WE DO NOT BELONG HERE DESPITE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR GENERATIONS.

THOSE, UH, BUSINESSES ARE ON ROUTE FIVE, NOT HOOVER ROAD, AND THE FACT THAT ALMOST THE ENTIRETY OF HOOVER ROAD IS RESIDENTIAL,

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ISN'T THERE MORE VALUE IN PRESERVING THE CHARACTER OF OUR COMMUNITY AS IT ACTUALLY EXISTS? RATHER THAN LET A DEVELOPER USE SELECTIVE ANALYSIS OF ZONING REGULATIONS AS A BLUDGEON TO FURTHER THEIR AGENDA? IF MY COMMUNITY HAS EXISTED FOR THREE GENERATIONS OR MORE AS A QUIET AND PEACEFUL NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH HAS PAID TAXES, PRODUCE FAMILIES WHO WORK LIVE AND BETTER THIS RES REGION, DOESN'T THAT HAVE MORE VALUE THAN THE INSTALLATION OF A WEDDING VENUE THAT IS LITERALLY, LITERALLY WITHIN EYESIGHT OF TWO OTHER ALREADY ESTABLISHED BEACHFRONT WEDDING VENUES AT WOODLAWN BEACH AND THE COWBOY.

WE ASKED THE TOWN BOARD TO MAKE THE DECISION THAT VALUES THE FAMILIES THAT LIVE HERE OVER THE PROFITS OF THOSE THAT HAVE JUST ARRIVED.

THEY COULD PUT THEIR VENUE IN A THOUSAND DIFFERENT PLACES.

THEY, OR THEY COULD CHOOSE A THOUSAND DIFFERENT USES FOR THAT PROPERTY THAT ARE NOT SO DAMAGING TO THE CHARACTER OF MY COMMUNITY.

I, ALONG WITH MY NEIGHBORS, ONLY HAVE ONE HOME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

WE HAVE FOUR MORE SPEAKERS AND I'M GOING TO REMIND YOU AGAIN TO PLEASE ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS.

THE TOWN BOARD TAKING SHOTS AT THE APPLICANT OR THE APPLICANT TAKING SHOTS AT YOU IS NOT GOING TO BE PRODUCTIVE FOR THE REST OF THE EVENING.

DAN BAUER.

HELLO, MY NAME IS DANIEL BAUER.

I RESIDE AT 37 90 ROAD, ABOUT ONE 50 FEET FROM THE ALCHEMY SHORES PROPERTY.

I'M SPEAKING TODAY TO PUBLICLY OPPOSE THE REZONING OF THIS PARCEL TO AN ME ONE DISTRICT, ESPECIALLY FOR A COMMERCIAL EVENT CENTER.

AFTER REVIEWING THE SUPPLEMENTS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT, I AM MORE CONFIDENT THAN EVER THAT THIS FACILITY WOULD BE DISASTROUS FOR THE CHARACTER OF OUR COMMUNITY.

THE SUPPLEMENT IS FULL OF BAD FAITH SURGEONS.

SOME OF THE MOST EGREGIOUS HAVE TO DO WITH OUR EVIDENCE AS RELATED TO NOISE AT GREAT PERSONAL EXPENSE.

MY NEIGHBORS ENLISTED THE AID OF AN INDEPENDENT ACOUSTICAL CONSULTANT TO DETERMINE THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS OF THE ALCON SHOR PROJECT MOVING FORWARD.

IT WAS DETERMINED BY THIS EXPERT THAT THIS PROJECT WOULD CREATE A QUOTE, INTOLERABLE INCREASE IN NOISE IF ORDER ALLOWED TO GO FORWARD OR DISPLAY IT.

THE SUPPLEMENT SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT'S AND THEIR ATTORNEY ATTEMPTS TO HAND WAIVE AWAY THIS SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE.

INSTEAD OF TAKING THE STEP STEP OF ORDERING THEIR OWN ANALYSIS, THEY'VE PAID AN EXPERT FROM A COMPANY CALLED HDR TO PERFORM A CURSORY REVIEW OF OUR ANALYSIS.

HDR'S REPORT IS FAR FROM A PRIMARY, RELIABLE AND UNBIASED RESPONSE TO OUR OWN SCIENTIFIC ANALYSIS.

HDR IS AN ARCHITECTURAL FIRM BASED IN NEW YORK CITY.

THE INDIVIDUAL WHO PUT THE REPORT TOGETHER IS NOT AN ENGINEER AND HOLDS NO CERTIFICATIONS RELATED TO ACOUSTICS, BUT IS A PROJECT MANAGER WITH ONLY FIVE MONTHS TENURE AT THE COMPANY.

SHE HAS NEVER BEEN TO THIS SITE AND I HAVE NO REASON TO BELIEVE SHE HAS EVER SET FOOT IN WESTERN NEW YORK.

SHE MAKES TWO BASIC ARGUMENTS IN HER RESPONSE.

THE FIRST IS ABOUT OUR REPORT ITSELF.

THE MAJOR THROUGH LINE IS QUIBBLES ABOUT DATA COLLECTION AND METHODOLOGY.

SHE ARGUES MAJORLY THAT INACCURATE REPORT WOULD INCLUDE 24 HOURS WORTH OF DATA.

SHE IGNORES THE FACT THAT OUR READINGS WERE TAKEN DURING PEAK DAYTIME HOURS WHEN THE PROPOSED FACILITY WOULD ACTUALLY BE OPERATING.

IF ANYTHING, OUR SAMPLE MAKES OUR ARGUMENTS ABOUT THE INTOLERABILITY OF THE NOISE INCREASE EVEN STRONGER.

BUT THE SECOND, MUCH MORE SPECIOUS ARGUMENT IS THAT THE PRESENCE OF THE COWBOY ON THE LAKE INVALIDATES OUR ACOUSTICAL REPORT BECAUSE THE PEAK NOISE LEVELS FROM THAT ESTABLISHMENT SHOULD BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AS THE ACTUAL ACOUSTICAL BASELINE FOR THE AREA.

I'M PLAY A RECORDING FROM INSIDE MY LIVING ROOM AND WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE AT A TYPICAL NIGHT AT THE COWBOY WHEN OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED NOISE IS OCCURRING, SORRY, I DIDN'T WANT PHONE, DID NOT WANNA ROCK INSIDE FROM INSIDE MY HOUSE.

THAT IS NOT UNCOMMON.

I THINK WE'VE BEEN EXTREMELY BAD FAITH AND DISRESPECTFUL ARGUMENT DEPOSIT THAT I COULD ACCEPT THAT AS THE BASELINE.

JUST BECAUSE IT IS TECHNICALLY ALLOWED UNDER HAYBROOK'S WEAK AND VAGUE NOISE REGULATIONS OBVIOUSLY DOES NOT MEAN IT IS APPROPRIATE.

THIS WHY BRING UP THE FACT THAT THE OFFER OF THIS REPORT HAS NEVER SET FOOT IN THIS COMMUNITY OR TAKING A SINGLE READING HERSELF.

HOW WOULD SHE KNOW OR KNOW TO CARE ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THE OPENING OF THE COWBOY? WHY WOULD SHE POSIT THAT THE BASELINE I JUST PLAYED FOR YOU IS THE APPROPRIATE BASELINE FOR A COMMUNITY ZONE NEIGHBORHOOD, COMMERCIAL OR NOT? BECAUSE MOST OF THE POINTS THAT SHE IS MAKING AS TECHNICAL NI PICTURE THAT SHE INCLUDES IN HER REPORT HAVE OBVIOUSLY BEEN HANDED OVER BY THE APPLICANTS THEMSELVES.

THIS IS HARDLY AN EXPERT REPORT.

IT IS A LAUNDERING AND REPACKAGING OF THE APPLICANT'S OWN ARGUMENTS THROUGH A FIRM IN NEW YORK CITY WHO DOES NOT KNOW OUR COMMUNITY AND DOES NOT CARE.

AND EVEN THAT HDR'S EXPERT DOES NOT CONCLUDE THAT AHOR WILL NOT RESULT IN INTOLERABLE LEVELS OF NOISE OR NEGATIVELY AFFECT OUR COMMUNITY BY INSISTING THAT THEY CAN FUNCTION WITHOUT OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUNDS.

ALL THAT THEY CONCLUDE IS THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WOULD BE NECESSARY AND I AGREE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION MIGHT INDEED BE NECESSARY.

I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE APPLICANT DO THREE THINGS.

A GO BACK THROUGH THE LW P'S COASTAL CONSISTENCY PROCESS AFTER ALL THE BUSINESS THAT THEY INITIALLY SUBMITTED AND THE BUSINESS THAT THEY ARE NOW PROPOSING ARE TWO ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THINGS.

TWO, MAKE A SECRET POSITIVE DECLARATION OR AT LEAST REVISIT THE SECRET PROCESS.

DREW RILEY ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN TOLD US THAT

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THE DECISIONS ABOUT SECRET DECLARATION WOULD NEED TO BE REEVALUATED ONCE THE FINAL MIX OF USES WAS DECIDED ON.

SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THE SIGNIFICANCE OF LIKELIHOOD, SIGNIFICANCE, LIKELIHOOD, AND DEGREE OF NOISE, ODOR, AND LIGHT IMPACTS CANNOT BE PROPERLY EVALUATED IN THE PAST.

THAT ALONE HAS BEEN ENOUGH TO TRIGGER SECRET POSITIVE DECLARATIONS, BUT NOW WE HAVE WHAT THE APPLICANT CONSIDERS TO BE THE FINAL NEXT ABUSES.

FINALLY, OR CONSIDERING THE PRECEDENCE THAT PRECEDENCE ALONG WITH THE NOVELTY OF THE ME ONE DISTRICT, WOULD THIS NOT BE ENOUGH TO TRIGGER A SECRET POSITIVE DECLARATION? AND THREE, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE APPLICANT HIRE THEIR OWN ACOUSTICAL ENGINEER TO PRODUCE A REPORT OR ACCEPTABLE VALID OF OURS BY THEIR OWN LOGIC AS PRESENTED IN HDR'S REPORT.

THEY WOULD'VE TO WAIT UNTIL PEAK OUTDOOR SEASON, NEXT SUMMER TO TAKE ANY READINGS THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED VALID.

LIVE THERE? WE MATTER PEOPLE AND I WANNA QUOTE FROM THE TOWN'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR MY AREA, PROVIDE PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE LAKE FRONT AND CREATING MORE OPPORTUNITY.

THANK YOU MR. LYNN BRAUN.

I'D LIKE TO THANK THE BOARD FOR GIVING US A SECOND OPPORTUNITY.

I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I WILL GO WITH, MY NAME IS LYNN BRAUN AND I RESIDE AT 3 7 8 4 HOOVER ROAD.

WHAT NEEDS MORE TO BE SAID THAT WE HAVEN'T ALREADY SAID? REWIND, PRESS, PLAY.

I STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY TO SAY TO THIS BOARD YOU NEED TO STAY THE COURSE, THE COURSE THAT YOU SET AND WERE WILLING TO GO FORTH ON AUGUST 14TH, 2023.

YOU NEED TO STAND BEHIND THAT DECISION AND NOT DEVIATE FROM THE CORPS THEY BROUGHT BEFORE YOU.

CHANGES THE LAWYER LIKE MOVING THE OUTDOOR MUSIC TO THE NORTHERN END OF THE THREE ACRES OF LAND.

GREAT.

NOW THEY WANNA FACE THE SPEAKERS DIRECTLY AT US ON THE THREE ACRES OF LAND.

THEY'RE STILL ASKING FOR 175 PEOPLE AND THEY STILL ONLY HAVE 83 PARKING.

THEY STILL, THE MATH DOESN'T ADD UP.

YOU KNOW HOW I AM ABOUT THE BIKE PATH IN, IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND PARKING ON MY STREET.

ADDITIONALLY, I'M AGAINST THIS BECAUSE THIS PROPOSED PROPERTY DOES NOT FIT THE CHARACTER OF THIS COMMUNITY.

THE COMPREHENSION PLAN THAT YOU REFERENCE QUITE OFTEN, AS WELL AS HOW WE HEAR YOU, THE TOWN BOARD SPEAK.

YOU ALL PUT A LOT OF EMPHASIS ON THE CHARACTER OF THIS COMMUNITY AND RIGHTFULLY SO.

IT IS IMPORTANT THING TO PROTECT AND DEFEND, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHAT WE'VE HAVE BEEN DOING HERE FOR ALMOST A YEAR.

ALCHEMY HAS STATED TO YOU OFFICIALLY THAT THEY BELIEVE THEY FIT IN WITH THE CHARACTER OF MY COMMUNITY, WILL ADDITIONALLY DIMINISH THE DIMINISHING THE ROLES OF MY HOME, MY FAMILIES, MY NEIGHBORS, AND THE CHARACTER OF THE COMMUNITY.

THEY STATED IT FITS THE CHARACTER OF THE COMMUNITY DUE TO TONY'S, AMAZON, FEDEX, THE GO-KARTS, THE UAW IN ORANGE LANDING.

THEY'RE ALL ON ROUTE FIVE.

THEY'RE NOT ON HOOVER ROAD.

HOOVER ROAD IS RESIDENTIAL.

90% RESIDENTIAL HOMES.

EVEN THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DEAD NEXT DOOR TO 'EM, THE INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, THEY DON'T WANT THEM, NOBODY DOES ON THAT ROAD.

I'M SORRY.

BUT THEY ALSO BROUGHT UP ON HOW THE LWRP HAD APPROVED THEIR PLANS.

HOWEVER, I STAND HERE TODAY THAT TO INSIST THEM RECOMMENDATION THAT TO BE THROWN OUT AS THEIR PLANS HAVE CHANGED, REARRANGED AND MORE IMPORTANTLY GROWN SINCE THEN.

WHEN THEY PRESENTED TO THE LWRP, THEY DESCRIBED THEIR BUSINESS AS HOSTING BABY SHOWERS, STORAGE, SOMETHING ABOUT PLANTS.

I DON'T REMEMBER DOING YOGA AND MAYBE EVEN BUILDING SOME RESIDENTIAL HOMES OFFICES FOR THEM TO USE THAT IS VERY DIFFERENT PROPOSAL FROM THE BAR WEDDING EVENT WITH OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED MUSIC THAT THEY HAVE NOW.

THEREFORE, THEY SHOULD HAVE TO BE REASSES FOR SORE LINE CONSISTENCY.

OTHERWISE, WHAT IS THE VALUE OF THAT PROCESS? IF YOU CAN PASS IT AND THEN CHANGE.

I WILL END THIS LIKE I END ALL MY SPEECHES.

HAD I BEEN HERE BEFORE YOU AT EVERY MEETING, IF A BAR WEDDING VENUE WITH OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED MUSIC WAS THREE FEET FROM YOUR HOME, WOULD YOU WANNA

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ENJOY THE LAKE WITHOUT INFRINGING ON THE EXISTING LAKE FRONT RESIDENCE.

MAKE CHANGES TO THE MU ONE.

NO OUTDOOR MUSIC OR AMPLIFIED ANYTHING WITHIN 500 FEET OF RESIDENTIAL.

IT WORKS FOR ALL OF HAMBURG.

ASHLEY MANN.

HELLO, MY NAME'S ASHLEY MANN.

UM, I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG MY WHOLE LIFE.

UM, AND RECENTLY MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE PURCHASED A HOME IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG.

SO I HAVE A NEW VESTED 30 YEAR INTEREST IN THE LAWS AND ZONING CODE OF THE TOWN.

UM, SO THAT SAID, I JUST WANNA VOICE A FEW CONCERNS ABOUT THE MD ONE ZONING.

UM, ONE POINT THAT I HAVE IS THAT ALCHEMY SHORES, UM, THEY MADE A POINT THAT OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED MUSIC IS VITAL TO THE SUCCESS OF THEIR BUSINESS.

UM, BUT THERE ARE MANY BARS, RESTAURANTS IN WEDDING VENUES THAT DON'T HAVE OUTDOOR MUSIC.

UM, BRUSSEL FOR EXAMPLE, IS A FEW HUNDRED FEET AWAY AND THEY DON'T NEED OUTDOOR MUSIC.

AND ON A FRIDAY YOU CAN'T REALLY GET IN THERE 'CAUSE THEY'RE SO PACKED.

UM, AT ALCHEMY'S LOCATION, THEY CAN CLEARLY HEAR THE BAND PLAYING AT COWBOY AND AT WOODLAWN BEACH.

SO WE CAN THEN ASSUME THAT ALCHEMY WILL HAVE TO ADDRESS THE FACT THAT THEY WILL HAVE TO INCREASE THEIR MUSIC TO KEEP UP WITH THE OTHER COUP.

SO WHAT'S THAT MEAN FOR THE HOUSES IN BETWEEN A BATTLE OF THE BANDS BETWEEN COUNTRY MUSIC OR LIKE THE CHICKEN DANCE OR SOMETHING THAT YOU HEAR ON A WEDDING THAT YOU DON'T REALLY WANNA HEAR WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO GO TO SLEEP? WHAT THIS PROPOSAL IS WILLFULLY FAILING TO ADDRESS IS THE SIMPLE FACT THAT THE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT GET TO GO HOME.

THEY GET TO GO HOME, PUT THEIR CHILDREN TO BED AT NIGHT.

THEY CAN HAVE THE WINDOWS OPEN, THEY GET TO GO HOME, HAVE A PARTY IN THEIR BACKYARD.

THEY CAN PLAY THEIR OWN MUSIC OR NOT.

THAT'S THEIR CHOICE.

MY POINT IS THAT WE DON'T GET A CHOICE.

IF YOU GO TO A BAR AND YOU DON'T LIKE THE MUSIC, YOU GET TO GO HOME.

IF YOU GO TO A WEDDING AND GET TIRED, YOU WANNA GO TO BED, YOU GET TO GO HOME.

WE CANNOT, THIS IS OUR HOME.

THEIR LAWYER WANTS TO USE THE FACT THAT THEY HAVEN'T HAD ANY NOISE COMPLAINTS IN THE VILLAGE.

BUT A WIDE BAR WITHIN THE STRICT NOISE LIMITS OF THE VILLAGE IS NOT REALLY COMPARABLE TO AN EVENT VENUE ASKING FOR OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED MUSIC THREE FEET AWAY FROM A HOME.

WE HAVE SEEN FROM THE PREVIOUS OCCUPANTS OF DOCKET THE BAY AND EVEN AT LAGO TWO 10, THAT TALK MEANS NOTHING.

THEY COME BEFORE THE TOWN IN THE ZONING BOARD WITH A PLAN, BUT ONCE MONEY BEGINS SLOWING ALL OF THEIR CHARACTER REFERENCES, BIG LAWYER PROMISES AND GOODWILL GOES OUT THE WINDOW.

IN THE PAST DOCK AT THE BAY WENT FROM HAVING FIVE MUSIC TWO TIMES PER WEEK AND IT QUICKLY AMPLIFIED TO SEVEN TIMES A WEEK, OUTGROWING THEIR PARKING LOT PARKING ON THE BIKE PATH ALL DOWN THE ROAD.

WHEN LOG O2 10 ELIMINATED 15 OF THEIR PARKING SPOTS TO ACCOMMODATE THEIR FOOD CART AND THEIR, AND THEIR LIVE OUTDOOR MUSIC, THE END OF COOPER ROAD BECOMES IMPASSABLE.

ESPECIALLY DURING THEIR PEAK HOURS, THEY TOTALLY DISREGARDED THE NEIGHBORS NEXT TO THEM.

THOSE WHO DON'T LEARN FROM HISTORY ARE DREAM TO REPEAT IT.

WITH THIS LOCATION BEING THE FIRST OF ITS KIND IN THIS AREA, WE ASK THAT YOU USE THIS INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY TO KEEP WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE COMMUNITY AND ASK THAT YOU WRITE INTO THE MU ONE CODE THAT NO OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED MUSIC BE ALLOWED WITHIN 500 FEET OF RESIDENTIAL HOMES.

THIS WILL BENEFIT ALL OF HAMBURG.

OUTDOORS AMPLIFIED EVERY DAY UNTIL 11:00 PM AT MAXIMUM VOLUME.

HELLO, MY NAME IS TAYLOR BROWN AND I RESIDE AT 37 84 UBER ROAD.

UM, AND I URGE YOU THE BOARD TO REREAD ALL THAT HAS BEEN PUT BEFORE YOU TODAY.

AND ALL THE PREVIOUS TIMES WE HAVE STOOD BEFORE YOU.

OUR QUALITY OF LIFE IS IN JEOPARDY.

YOU CANNOT IN GOOD CONSCIOUS PASS THIS REZONING WITHOUT TRUE REVIEWING THE SEEKER WITH ALL THEIR NEW ADDITIONS TO THEIR SITE PLAN AND DEVIATIONS FROM THEIR ORIGINAL PROPOSAL.

A NEW SEEKER NEEDS TO BE REEVALUATED TO ADDRESS NOISE, TRAFFIC AND PARKING.

I DON'T THINK AS A TOWN YOU CAN OR SHOULD EVEN APPROVE THEM TO HAVE OUTDOOR MUSIC WHEN YOU HAVE NO WAY OF REGULATING IT OTHER THAN 11:00 PM IF YOU OPEN THIS UP TO ALLOW THEM TO HAVE AMPLIFIED OUTDOOR MUSIC TILL 11:00 PM THEN I CAN HAVE THAT RIGHT TOO.

RIGHT? I CAN PLAY ANY MUSIC I WANT

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I WOULDN'T DO THAT.

I'M NOT CRUEL.

BUT THAT'S MY POINT IS IT'S OPEN-ENDED.

I COULD IF I WANTED TO.

ALL SIX HOUSES CUT.

IF YOU HAVE TWO BARS LESS THAN 500 FEET AWAY FROM EACH OTHER, HOW ARE YOU NOT CREATING AN UNLIVABLE ENVIRONMENT FOR ME AND MY FAMILY? FOR REFERENCE FROM SOUTH PARK GAB TO THE POLICE STATION BEHIND YOU IS 500 FEET.

PUT A BAR AT EACH END WITH LIVE OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED MUSIC.

WOULD YOU WANT TO BE ANYWHERE IN BETWEEN THAT? I CERTAINLY DON'T.

WE'RE AT WAR.

WE ARE FIGHTING FOR OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.

YOU, THE BOARD CAN END THIS FIGHT BY JUST STAYING IN THE COURSE.

THE ONE YOU SET FORTH ON AUGUST 14TH, NO AMPLIFIED OUTDOOR MUSIC.

ADD THAT TO THE U ONE.

NO AMPLIFIED OUTDOOR MUSIC.

IF YOU ARE 500 FEET FROM A RESIDENTIAL AREA FOR ALL OF HAMBURG, IT'S NOT ONLY FOR US, BUT IT'S FOR EVERYWHERE ELSE IN THE FUTURE WHERE THIS NEW UNUSED ZONING MIGHT BE PUT IN PLACE.

I THINK EVERYONE AT HAMBURG IS AT RISK FOR THAT.

ON THE PUBLIC HEARING? YES SIR.

UH, JIMMY HILBERG.

JIMMY HILBERG.

I USED TO OWN 37 80 HOOVER ROAD.

UM, I WAS THERE FOR 10 YEARS.

UH, I KNOW WHAT THESE FOLKS ARE TALKING ABOUT.

UM, AND I, I TRIED TO BUY THAT PROPERTY 20 YEARS AGO AND WHEN IT FINALLY CAME AVAILABLE, I GOT IT.

UH, MY DREAM WAS TO HAVE MY BUSINESS THERE AND BUILD A HOUSE THERE IN FRONT, A LONG WHITE HOUSE, BRING MY PARENTS OVER.

UH, BUT I LIVE ON A LAKE DOWN BY MONICA.

AND, UH, SO I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO LIVE ON THE LAKE.

I KNOW THE BEAUTY OF THE LAKE.

I KNOW THE BEAUTY OF THE SUNSETS.

I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO WALK ON THE LAKE AND I FELT GUILTY FOR HAVING THOSE THREE ACRES ALL THAT TIME.

BUT IT JUST SAT THERE.

UH, MY NEIGHBORS WOULD GET MY FIREWOOD BUILD BIG, HUGE BONFIRES, UM, AND HAVE THEIR FAMILY OVER.

UM, I WANT, I I WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH SOMEBODY ELSE.

AND I WANTED TO HAVE THREE ACRES, THE 245 FEET OF BEACH FRONT TO MEAN SOMETHING.

AND IT DIDN'T.

I COULD PUT A WAREHOUSE ANYWHERE, OKAY, BUT, AND I WAS WASTING IT, HAVING A WAREHOUSE AND JUST HAVING THAT BEAUTIFUL BEACH FRONT.

SO I QUIETLY PUT IT UP FOR SALE.

I GOT OFFER FIVE YEARS AGO, TURNED IT DOWN.

UM, GOT A FEW MORE OFFERS OVER THE YEARS.

UM, BUT I DIDN'T WANNA PUT UP A WAREHOUSE.

I DIDN'T WANT TO PUT UP, UM, UH, ANOTHER FACTORY.

THE BEACH WAS TOO BEAUTIFUL.

YOU SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN, IN BUFFALO, YOU KNOW THEY'RE TAKING ALL THAT WATERFRONT PROPERTY AND THEY'RE MAKING SOMETHING OUT OF IT.

THEY'RE BRINGING PEOPLE DOWN TO IT, BRINGING THE PEOPLE FROM THE TOWN OF HAMBURG ARE GOING TO THE CITY, BUT THEY COULDN'T BE COMING HERE.

UH, SO I PURPOSELY HELD OFF WAITING FOR THE RIGHT PERSON.

I MEAN, THE, THE LAND WAS PAID FOR.

THE BUSINESS WAS DOING FINE.

I DIDN'T HAVE TO SELL.

BUT WHEN I HEARD THE RIGHT SITUATION, WHAT I THOUGHT WAS THE RIGHT SITUATION, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE ZONING, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANY OF THIS.

I'M COMING INTO THIS BLINDLY.

UM, BUT I FELT THIS WAS THE RIGHT THING TO BRING MORE PEOPLE INTO HAMBURG AND INTO THE EVENT CENTER.

AND, UH, I SPENT 30 YEARS IN THE ENTERTAINMENT BUS BUSINESS WORKING RIGHT NEXT TO A STAGE AT ALL TIMES.

UH, I KNOW WHAT ACOUSTICS ARE ALL ABOUT.

YOU CAN MAKE ACOUSTICS.

A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE, I THINK ARE JUMPING TO CONCLUSIONS.

YOU CAN, YOU CAN AND EVEN DOCK AT THE BAY OR BAYVIEW CAN, CAN DO BETTER WITH THEIR ACOUSTICS.

SO IT'S NOT IMPACTING ON THE NEIGHBORS.

UM, BUT A WEDDING IS GONNA BE FULL OF FRIENDS AND FAMILY.

UH, DOCK AT THE BAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, THEY'RE COMING FROM ALL OVER.

I SEE THE SCREECH MARKS ON THE STREET.

EVERYBODY THAT LIVES ON HOOVER ROAD WILL SEE THOSE SCREECH MARKS FROM THE CARS TAKING OFF FROM DOCK OF THE BAY FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS.

UH, THIS IS GONNA BE A DIFFERENT KIND OF SITUATION.

IT'S GONNA BE MORE FAMILY ORIENTED FRIENDS.

IT'S NOT GONNA BE A WILD SITUATION THAT I KEEP HEARING ABOUT.

BUT, UH, SO DON'T SHOOT THE MESSENGER, BUT I VOTE FOR CHANGE IT UP.

THANK YOU SIR.

ANYONE ELSE? ANYBODY ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO BE HEARD

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5 1 2 4 GRADUATE.

THE ONLY THING SEEMS VERY OBVIOUS AT THIS POINT IS WE NEED REAL NOISE ORDINANCES ALL DAY, ALL NIGHT, NOT JUST SEVEN TO 11 WHERE ANY RESIDENTIAL AREA IS IS AFFECTED.

AND IT'S DEFINITELY A QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE.

OTHER PLACES THAT ADOPTED THEM, WE NEED ONE AND WE NEED ONE WITH GENUINE PENALTIES FOR VIOLATING IT.

I LIVE ON HOOVER ROAD.

I'LL CUT IT SHORT AND SWEET.

I'M JUST GONNA ASK THE BOARD, WHAT KIND OF LEGACY WOULD YOU WANT FOR THIS TOWN BUSINESS AT ALL COSTS OR A REASONABLE APPROACH GIVEN TO SPECIFIC LOCATIONS AND THE POSSIBLE HARM TO EXISTING HOMES OR BUSINESSES IN THE LIFESTYLE THAT ALREADY EXISTS THERE.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

YOU WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO BE HEARD? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

BY COUNCIL MEMBER COUNTY.

ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE.

SECOND BY SAYING AYE.

PASS.

SECOND, IT BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, I BELIEVE RESOLVE UPON BOARD DOES HEREBY AUTHORIZE SENIOR PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCHER SEAN CRONIE.

SEND THREE PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCHERS TO PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT TRAINING HOST BY ERIE COUNTY, DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY AND EMERGENCY SERVICES AT THE ERIE COUNTY FIRE TRAINING ACADEMY, LOCATED AT 3 3 5 9 BROADWAY IN CHIEF UA, NEW YORK.

THE CLASS IS TITLED INCIDENT TACTICAL DISPATCHER.

INTD WILL BE DELIVERED BY FACILITATOR, THE NEW YORK SAFETY DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY AND EMERGENCY SERVICES OFFICE BY INTEROPERABLE EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS AND RUNS FROM 8:00 AM TO 5:00 PM ON OCTOBER 30TH THROUGH NOVEMBER 2ND.

PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCH IS CONNOR MOSES, TIMOTHY HOFF AND CHRISTOPHER SCHMIDT MEET THE PREREQUISITES TO ATTEND THE TRAINING AND ARE ENROLLED TO ATTEND.

THERE IS NO COST TO ATTEND ANY USE OF A TOWN.

VEHICLE IS REQUESTED.

SO SECOND.

A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER HO.

SECOND, MY COUNCIL MEMBER CU IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THE INDIVIDUALS AS FOLLOWS, JENNIFER BROOKS, KELSEY MCCARTHY.

OPPOSED? IONS CARRIED PER RESULT THE HENRY TOWN BOARD IS HEREBY APPROVE THE REQUEST PRESENTED BY THE MEMBER VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY, THE ADMIN ROLES OF THEIR MEMBERSHIP, THE INDIVIDUALS AS FOLLOWS, JOSHUA HOWARD, ROBERT SU, PAUL ACK, EDWARD KLEIN, NICHOLAS ELKHORN, HANNAH AND TROY.

THEREFORE BE A FURTHER RESULT.

THE TOWN BOARD HAS ALSO APPROVED THE RENEWABLE FROM THE MEMBERSHIP RANKS.

ALL FAVORABLY SIGNIFY BY SENDING AYE.

THE INDIVIDUALS AND FOLLOWERS.

OPPOSED? CARRIED THE RESULT.

HIM TOWN BOARD DOES APPROVE THE HERE HEREBY APPROVE THE REQUEST TO ADD TO THE ROLES OF THEIR MEMBERSHIP.

JACOB AN ALEXANDER LTZ.

ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE A.

OPPOSED EXTENSIONS CARRIED.

WHEREAS DR.

BRIAN CLEMENCY HAS BEEN INFORMALLY PROVIDING MEDICAL DIRECTION FOR THE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANIES IN THE TOWN AS WELL AS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, POLICE AND PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCH DEPARTMENTS FOR LITTLE TO NO CAUSE IN THE TOWN.

AND WHEREAS HE WILL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE MEDICAL DIRECTOR SERVICES FOR THE TOWN IN A MORE FORMAL ROLE THROUGH UBMD NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED.

THE TOWN BOARD IS THROUGH BY ENTERING IN GREENWOOD UNIVERSITY MEDICAL UNIVERSITY EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES UBMD EMERGENCY MEDICINE FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROFESSIONAL EMERGENCY MEDICAL DIRECTION SERVICES TO VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS IN THE TOWN AND BE A FURTHER RESOLVED CONTACT.

THE PRICE OF $20,000 ANNUALLY SHALL BE PAID IN QUARTERLY INSTALLMENTS AND THIS AGREEMENT WILL GO INTO EFFECT RETROACTIVELY SEPTEMBER 3RD, 2023 FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN A 87 61 0 3.

SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CONLEY.

OPPOSED? CONVENTIONS CARRIED.

WHEREAS THE TOWN OF ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT HAS REQUESTED ADDITIONAL SPECIALIZED CONSULTING

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ENGINEERING SERVICES TO REVIEW, COORDINATE, AND DISTRIBUTE ALL SUBMITTALS PERTAIN TO THE REFRIGERATION AND DEHUMIDIFICATION COMPONENTS OF THE TOWN ARENA UPGRADE PROJECT.

AND WHEREAS DTO ASSOCIATES HAS SUBMITTED A PROPOSAL TO PROVIDE THESE ADDITIONAL SERVICES, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, THE TOWN HAMMER TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZED THE SUPER TOWN SUPERVISOR TO SIGN THE PROPOSAL FROM DTO AND ASSOCIATES ENGINEERING AND ARCHITECTURE FOR THE TOWN ARENA UPGRADE PROJECT IN THE AMOUNT $6,765 FUNDS AVAILABLE IN H 1 0 2 7 2 5 0 3 0 3 CAPITAL PROJECT.

ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGN BY SAY A A A OPPOSED AS REDEMPTIONS.

WHEREAS THE TOWN OF ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT HAS REQUIRED ADDITIONAL CONSULTING ENGINEERING SERVICES RESULTING IN THE INCREASED WORKLOAD FROM SEVERAL CAPITAL PROJECTS AND WHEREAS GHD HAS SUBMITTED AN AMENDMENT CHANGE FORM TO THE EXISTING CONTRACT TO PROVIDE THESE ADDITIONAL SERVICES, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED.

THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZED THE TOWN SUPERVISOR TO SIGN THE PROPOSAL FROM GHD FOR THE TOWN ENGINEER CONSULTANT SERVICES AMENDMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $15,000 FUNDS AVAILABLE IN A 1 4 4 0 4 4 0 CONTRACTED PERSONAL SERVICES.

ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY MISSING.

OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS.

SOMO CARRIED THE RESULT.

THE MEMBER TOWN BOARD DOES HEREBY APPROVE TO REQUEST A BIG TREE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY ADDED TO THE RANKS OF THE MEMBERSHIP.

THE INDIVIDUALS AS FOLLOWS, MATTHEW HENDRA.

DOUGLAS INGERSOLL.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN FERRO.

RESOL FAVORLY SIGN SAYING AYE.

WHEREAS TOM HAMBURG HAS BEEN WORKING ON IMPROVING THE INTERSECTION OF CLARK STREET AND MCKINLEY PARKWAY TO PROMOTE SAFETY FOR THE VEHICLE, BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC.

AND WHEREAS AFTER ROBUST COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND ADVERTISEMENT BY SEVERAL SPECIALIZED TRAFFIC ENGINEERS, A ROUNDABOUT TRAFFIC CONFIGURATION HAS DETERMINED TO BE THE PREFERRED SOLUTION TO DIRECT THE CURRENT INTERSECTION ALIGNMENT.

AND IN ORDER FOR THE GEOMETRY THE PROPOSED ROUNDABOUT TO BE UTILIZED, THE PORTION OF PRIVATE PROPERTY WILL NEED BE DEBATE TO PUBLIC OWNERSHIP THEREFORE BE RESOLVED.

THE HENRY TOWN BOARD OF AUTHORIZES THE TOWN SUPERVISOR TO SIGN THE PROPOSAL FROM ATIA AND ATIA PC TO PROVIDE COUNSEL PERTAINING TO THE NEGOTIATION OF PROPERTY ACQUISITION UNDER THE RATE TABLE INCLUDED IN THE ATTACHED LETTER FUNDS AVAILABLE IN H 1 0 6 36 34 40 CAPITAL PROJECT.

SO DO WE, DO WE HAVE THE ATTACHED LETTER ITEMS? SEE THAT IN HERE? UM, WAS THAT UPLOADED KATHY, DO YOU KNOW? I DON'T SEE MICHELLE DO YOU HAVE, DO YOU KNOW, I'M WONDERING YOUR VISIONARY.

YEAH, I SAW THE LETTER.

UM, I MEAN AND REMEMBER THE RATE, HOURLY RATE.

DO WE HAVE THE RATER? WHAT'S THE RATE? $325 AN HOUR.

3 25.

AND WAS THERE A RANGE PUT ON WHAT WAS GONNA BE SPENT? I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WAS A RANGE.

IT WAS JUST AN HOURLY RANGE.

SO, UM, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND OKAY ON THE QUESTION.

UM, I WAS IN THIS MEETING WITH KEN.

UM, THIS IS KEN'S KEN AND, AND ELISE WE'RE ABLE TO TALK TO THIS ATTORNEY WHO HAS EXPERIENCE IN THIS TYPE OF LAND ACQUISITION.

UM, WE DID NOT DISCUSS A RANGE BECAUSE WE SUSPECT THAT IT COULD BE VERY SIMPLE.

IT MAY BE JUST A FEW HOURS, BUT WE, UH, CAN ADDRESS THAT AS THE PROJECT MOVES ALONG.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE A.

WE RESOLVE THE BOARD APPOINT AUDREY IS ABO TO SERVE ON THE LOCAL WATERFRONT REVITALIZATION COMMITTEE TERM COMMENCING ON TUESDAY, OCTOBER 24TH, 2023.

SOMO SECOND.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN C*****G.

ALL IN FAVORABLY SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED? ABSTENTION.

ABSTENTIONS.

ONE ABSTENTION CARRIED BE RESOLVED.

TOWN BOARD DESIGNATED TUESDAY, OCTOBER 31ST AS THE OFFICIAL TRICK OR TREAT NIGHT IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG FROM 5:00 PM TO 8:00 PM SO MOVE SECOND.

SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

A AYE.

UPHOLD ABSTENTIONS.

WHEREAS NEW STATE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION JUST RELEASED THE 10 YEAR UPDATE TO THE STATE'S SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT PLAN AS AN IDENTIFIED DIVERSION OF ORGANIC WASTE FROM LANDFILLS AS ONE OF THE HIGHEST PRIORITIES FOR ACHIEVEMENT OF THE STATE'S GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTION

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GOALS.

AND WHERE AS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG IS INTERESTED IN WORKING WITH DAIRY COUNTY ON ITS NEW YORK STATE, DEPARTMENT OF STATE LOCAL GOVERNMENT EFFICIENCY GRANT TO CREATE A REGIONAL ORGANIC WASTE COMPOST FACILITY THAT CAN BE USED BY NEARBY MUNICIPALITIES AND WHERE IT, AS SUCH A PROJECT WILL REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF ORGANIC WASTE BEING LANDFILL, WHICH WILL HAVE BOTH FINANCIAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS.

AND WHERE THE PURPOSE OF THE MORATORIUM OF MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING HEREBY ATTACHED IS TO ESTABLISH A FRAMEWORK WITH DEFINED ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES FOR ADMINISTERING THE REMAINING FUNDS FROM THE NEW YORK STATE DOS LOCAL GOVERNMENT EFFICIENCY GRANT AWARDED ERIE COUNTY FOR THE PURPOSES OF ESTABLISHING A REGIONAL ORGANICS WASTE IN COMPOST AND SITE AND ESTABLISH A PROJECT BUDGET AND A PLAN FOR PROJECT REPORTING REQUIREMENTS.

AND WHERE IS A MUTUAL BENEFIT FOR BOTH PARTIES LIES AND THAT ERIE COUNTY WILL BE ABLE TO DIRECT REMAINING GRANT FUNDING TO THE TOWN OF HAMBURG WITH THE GOAL OF ASSISTING COMMUNITIES WITHIN THE COUNTY OF AREA WITH SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT, LOCAL AND EFFICIENCY AND THE REDUCTION OF GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, THEREFORE BE RESOLVED IN DOWN HAM.

AUTHORIZE THE SUPERVISOR TO ENTER THE NEW MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE COUNTY GENERAL.

SECOND, SECOND CONLEY.

ALL IN FAVOR TO THE AYE.

OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS BE RESOLVED ON BOARD.

AUTHORIZED JOHN SODA FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF YOUTH RECREATION SENIOR SERVICES TO PARTAKE IN THE VIRTUAL YOUTH SPORTS CONGRESS TO THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE OF YOUTH SPORTS.

AS A CERTIFIED YOUTH SPORTS ADMINISTRATOR, JOHN IS PROVIDED WITH VALUABLE TOOLS, KNOWLEDGE AND RESOURCES TO ENHANCE YOUTH SPORTS IN THE HAMBURG COMMUNITY.

WHEREAS THE VIRTUAL CON CONFERENCE COSTS $300 PER PERSON AND BEGINS ON NOVEMBER 20TH, 2023.

ALLOWING PARTICIPANTS FLEXIBILITY TO COMPLETE THE 10 PLUS HOURS OF EDUCATIONAL SESSIONS.

THE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT A 7 0 2 4 9 2 SEMINAR TRAINING.

OKAY, ALL IN FAVOR PROCEED BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED? DETENTIONS CARRIED.

BE RESOLVED AS TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES.

JILLIAN GORMAN KING, DIRECTOR OF RECREATION TO ATTEND THE ASSOCIATION OF NEW YORK STATE YOUTH BUREAUS DIRECTORS TRAINING IN SYRACUSE, NEW YORK FROM WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 1ST THROUGH THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 2ND, 2023 AND BE RESOLVED AS TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZE JILL GORMAN KING, DIRECTOR OF RECREATION AND NICOLE ROBERTO, SENIOR RECREATION SUPERVISOR TO ATTEND THE ASSOCIATION OF NEW YORK STATE YOUTH BUREAU'S 2023 YOUTH DEVELOPMENT LEADERSHIP TRAINING CONFERENCE IN SYRACUSE, NEW YORK FROM THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 2ND THROUGH FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 3RD, 2023.

UM, TOTAL COST $887.

RESOLVE THAT THE USE OF A TOWN VEHICLE IS APPROVED FOR TRANSPORTATION.

MONEY IS AVAILABLE IN A 7 0 2 4 9 2 7.

SO MOVED SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGN BY SAYING AYE A AYE.

OPPOSED EXTENSIONS CARRIED WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURGERS WORKED WITH BUMMER AND CLARK INC.

ON A PROJECT TO REPLACE A NEW WATER MAINE ON WEST ARNOLD DRIVE.

AND IT HAS BEEN DETERMINED BY THE ERIE COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY THAT THE NEW WATER MAIN WILL REQUIRE A TOWN MAINTAINED ROADWAY TO ENSURE ACCESS TO THIS CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND WHEREAS THE PROPOSED ROAD WILL REQUIRE CLEAR MEETS AND BALANCED DESCRIPTION OF ITS TRUE LOCATION AND PREPARATION OF MAPPING AND LEGAL DOCUMENTS SUITABLE FOR THE TRANSFER OF PROPERTY BETWEEN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG AND PRIVATE OWNERSHIP.

THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZED THE TOWN OF HAMBURG SUPERVISOR TO SIGN THE AMENDMENT TO THE EXISTING AGREEMENT FROM DEBOER AND CLARK ENGINEERING SURVEYS FOR THE WEST ARNOLD DRIVE WATER MAIN IMPROVEMENT PROJECT TASK TWO BOUNDARY SURVEY PROPOSAL IN THE AMOUNT OF $9,600 FUNDS AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT B 1 4 9 0 0 4 4 0 0 0 0 2.

ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.

IT RESOLVED THAT TOM BOARD APPROVED ROSEANNE WIRICK AND MEGAN BUSICK TO ATTEND THE 2023 ADULT DAY HEALTHCARE DIRECTOR AND STAFF VIRTUAL TRAINING PROGRAM.

OPPOSED? IONS CARRIED.

IT RESOLVED THAT TOM BOARD AUTHORIZES NICOLE ROBERTO AND MEGAN TO VIRTUALLY ATTEND THE COMMUNITY TRANSPORTATION ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA TRAIN THE TRAINER PROGRAM CALLED PASSENGER ASSISTANCE SAFETY AND SENSITIVITY TRAINER CERTIFICATION PROGRAM.

WHEREAS THE PAST PROGRAM ENSURES THAT COMMUNITY TRANSPORTATION TRAINERS WILL HAVE EXER EXPERTISE IN PASSENGER ASSISTANCE TECHNIQUES, SENSITIVITY SKILLS, HANDS-ON WHEELCHAIR SECUREMENT AND LIFE OPERATIONS.

BUS EVACUATION KNOWLEDGE AND SKILLS IN ORDER TO TRAIN DRIVERS TO SERVE PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES.

PASS TRAINER CERTIFICATION IS DEVELOP FOR THREE YEARS, THEREFORE BE RESOLVED.

THE VIRTUAL TRAIN THE TRAINER PORTION OF THE PROGRAM IS NOVEMBER 15TH, 2023 9:00 AM TO 5:00 PM WITH THE COST BEING $750 PER PARTICIPANT AND THE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT A 6 7 7 2 4 9 2 SEMINARS.

SO, SO ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY MS. SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED? CARRIED.

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WHEREAS THE PROGRAM WILL REVIEW PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE HOME COMMUNITY-BASED SERVICES, RULE ASSESSMENTS AND ADMISSIONS GENERATING REFERRALS, PROGRAM DIRECTOR RESPONSIBILITIES, AND DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS INCLUDING STAFFING OF PROGRAM.

THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, ROSEANNE AND MEGAN TAKE PART IN THE TWO DAY VIRTUAL TRAINING SESSIONS WITH THE COST OF 900 OR $199 PER PERSON AND THE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT A 6 7 7 2 4 9 2 SEMINARS.

UH, IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY MSS AYE.

OPPOSED? EXTENSIONS CARRIED.

RESOLVED THE TOWN BOARD APPROVE THE OUT OF TOWN TRAVEL REQUEST FOR GREENSKEEPER KELLY RENOLD TO ATTEND A-G-C-S-A-A CONFERENCE IN TRADE SHOW IN PHOENIX, ARIZONA ON JANUARY 29TH, 2024 THROUGH FEBRUARY 1ST, 2024 TOTAL THE COST TO ATTEND THE CONFERENCE, INCLUDING MEALS, REGISTRATION, FLIGHT, AND HOTEL ACCOMMODATIONS IS APPROXIMATELY $3,500.

FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN ER 72 50 0 9 2 WITH TRANSFER FROM ER 72 53.

ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY.

OPPOSED? EXTENSIONS CARRIED BE RESOLVED.

THE TOWN BOARD APPROVES THE 2024 HOLIDAY CALENDAR DEPICTING THE DATES IF THE TOWN WILL BE CLOSED FOR BUSINESS AS ATTACHED.

OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS CARRIED BE RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVED DETERMINATION AND HIRING OF PERSONNEL FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF YOUTH RECREATION AND SENIOR SERVICES AS PER THE ATTACHED PA ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY AGAINST AYE.

RESOLVE THAT THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES THE DEPARTMENT OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY TO APPLY FOR THE FY 2021 CYBERSECURITY GRANT PROGRAM TO ENHANCE AND SUSTAIN THE TOWN'S CYBERSECURITY POSTURE.

THE MAXIMUM AWARDED FUNDS ARE $50,000 SO MOVED.

IS THERE A MATCH TO THAT? WHETHER THERE BE A COST OF SO WE HAVE A MOTION, WE NEED A SECOND BEFORE WE CAN DISCUSS.

OPPOSED? ABSTENTION CARRIED RESULT.

THE HENRY TOWN BOARD IS YOU BY APPROVE THE REQUEST TO LAKE SHORE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY.

ADD TO THE RANKS OF THEIR MEMBERSHIP, THE INDIVIDUAL AS FOLLOWS, THE OFFER TO MICHAEL JAMES JOHNSON.

LAKEVIEW, NEW YORK.

ALL IN FAVOR SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED.

CARRIED.

WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG HAVE ADVERTISED FOR BIDS, THE 18 MILE GOLF COURSE IRRIGATION PROJECT, WHEREAS A PUBLIC BID OPENING WAS HELD ON OCTOBER 17TH, 2023 AT 10:00 AM AND MULTIPLE BIDS WERE OPENED AND READ ALOUD.

WHEREAS THE LOWEST RESPONSIBLE BIDDER FOR THIS PROJECT IS AS FOLLOWS, MATT COLO EXCAVATING HAVING SUBMITTED A BID IN THE AMOUNT OF $727,163 BE RESOLVED THAT TOWN SUPERVISOR IS AUTHORIZED TO SIGN THE CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT WITH MATT OLO EXCAVATING AND ISSUED THE NOTICE OF AWARD AND NOTICE TO PROCEED FUNDS AVAILABLE AND ACCOUNT NUMBER H ONE OR 1 4 4 4 5 6 4 3 SECOND.

OPPOSED.

EXTENSIONS CARRIED YOUR ALL THE BOARD OF PRISON TERMINATION.

HIRING OF THE FILING EMPLOYEE IN THE BUILDING AND GROUND DEPARTMENT AS LISTED.

OPPOSED? TENSIONS CARRIED.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

RESOLVED THAT THE HAMMER TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES THE TAYLOR ROAD ALCOHOL WAIVERS FOR THE FOLLOWING NOVEMBER, 2023 RENTALS.

NOVEMBER 2ND, THIRD, FOURTH, FIFTH, SIXTH, 11, 12TH, 17TH, 18TH, 19TH, 25TH AND 26TH.

OPPOSED EXTENSIONS CARRIED RESULT OF TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZE THE DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TO APPLY FOR THE F FISCAL YEAR 2021 CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT PROGRAM TO ENHANCE AND SUSTAIN THE TALENTS CRITICAL COMMUNICATION INFRASTRUCTURE.

MAX MOORE FUNDS ARE $50,000.

TVIA, NEW YORK ON OCTOBER 24TH AND 25TH OF 2023.

SECOND IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

A AYE OPPOSE PENSIONS PERIOD BE RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVED THE TRAVEL REQUEST OF HUNTER GRAD AND ROBERT HAGG TO ATTEND THE 2023 U DIG DAMAGE PREVENTION CONFERENCE AND EXFO TO BE HELD AT GENESEE COMMUNITY COLLEGE ONE COLLEGE ROAD,

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THIS WORKSHOP IS TO INCLUDE PRESENTATIONS ON VARIOUS ENGINEERING DESIGN, SAFETY MEASURES AND CONSTRUCTION METHODOLOGY.

THERE IS NO REGISTRATION, FEE ONLY TRAVEL EXPENSES, FUEL AND TOLLS ARE REQUIRED.

FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE.

AND ACCOUNT NUMBER A 1 4 4 0 4 9 2 SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR IF I MISS AYE.

AYE TO PENSION CARRIED TO RESOLVE THAT ITEM NUMBER SEVEN FROM THE RYTON BOARD MEETING OF OCTOBER 2ND, 2023.

BE REMOVED FROM THE TABLE FOR CONSIDERATION.

SO SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SEAT IN MS. SAYING AYE.

A AYE.

OPPOSED EXTENSIONS CARRIED WHEREAS A PUBLIC HEARING WAS HELD ON SEPTEMBER 25TH, 2023 FOR DISCUSSION, PUBLIC COMMENT CONCERNING ADOPTION OF THE BOTH LOCAL LAW NUMBER 12.

2023.

I'M AWARE THIS PROPOSAL OF THE LAW NUMBER 12 20 23 WILL AMEND CHAPTER TWO 80 OF HAN TOWN CODE ENTITLED ZONING BY ADDING A NEW ARTICLE AS YOU KNOW, THAT ITS ADULT USE CANNABIS NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED.

THE HAM TOWN BOARD ADOPT THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE TOWN CODE OF THE TOWN OF JOHN CALOR CODE OF TOWN HANDBOOK.

THE EFFECTIVE DATE THIS LOCAL LAW SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

WE HAVE MOTION AND A SECOND.

CAN WE JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION CLARIFICATION? SURE.

WE BROUGHT UP A COUPLE OF POINTS THAT WE NEEDED TO ADDRESS OR WE HAD CONCERNS ABOUT.

YES, I I MEAN I COULD TALK ABOUT THOSE.

I YEAH.

ONE OF 'EM, I CAME BACK PERFECT.

ONE OF 'EM I STILL HAVE A REAL CONCERN WITH IS THE STATEMENT OF ON THE SAME STREET OR ON THE SAME ROAD.

AND WE BROUGHT UP THE POINT THAT BECAUSE OF THE UNIQUENESS OF THE HAMBURG COMMUNITY, THERE ARE MANY SCHOOLS AND COMMUNITY FACILITIES AND HOUSES OF WORSHIP, MAINLY SCHOOLS THAT ARE NESTLED VERY INTO VERY TIGHT, UH, RESIDENTIAL AREAS, BUT ALSO HAVE SOME UNIQUE, UM, ZONING DIFFERENCES WHERE YOU CAN HAVE BUSINESSES NESTLED RIGHT UP AGAINST KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE'RE HOPING FOR WITH THOSE MUS WHERE WE HAVE BUSINESSES NESTLED UP AGAINST RESIDENTIAL, NESTLED UP AGAINST THIS OR SCHOOLS.

THIS DOESN'T PROTECT THOSE BECAUSE IF IT'S THE BACK OF THE SCHOOL, IT DOES PROTECT IT.

LEMME TELL YOU.

IT SAYS ON THE SAME ROAD THOUGH.

WELL, SO YOU CAN OFFER SOME CLARITY THAT WOULD HELP.

THE, THE STATE HAS NOT MADE THIS EASY TO EXPLAIN UNLESS THAT, UM, AS I, AS I SAID IN THE EMAIL THAT I SENT BACK ON SEPTEMBER 22ND, UM, WHEN I DRAFTED, IT'S ACTUALLY MORE RESTRICTIVE AND CLEARER THAN WHAT THE STATE HAS IN ITS REGULATION.

AND IT, THOSE LOCAL LAW THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT STATES THAT THEY, THAT THESE DISPENSARIES SHALL NOT BE LOCATED WITHIN 500 FEET OF SCHOOL GROUNDS.

PERIOD.

AS MEASURED IN THIS, THE STRAIGHT, THE STRAIGHT LINE BUSINESS, STRAIGHT FROM THE REGULATION.

WE CAN'T TAKE OUT THE STRAIGHT LINE.

BUT THE OTHER THING THAT I, THAT I WANNA EMPHASIZE IS SOMETHING, AN EMAIL THAT I GOT AFTER THAT, UM, ON SEPTEMBER 26TH BECAUSE I EMAILED THIS OFFICE OF CANNABIS MANAGEMENT ASKING ABOUT THIS AGAIN.

AND IN THIS EMAIL THEY'RE TELLING ME, I THINK THIS MIGHT ADDRESS YOUR CONCERN IN THEIR EMAIL, THEY'RE SAYING IF SCHOOL GROUNDS ARE SITUATED ON A CORNER LOT, THE SCHOOL GROUNDS ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ON BOTH STREETS OF THE INTERSECTION, WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS AN ENTRANCE TO THE BUILDING ON BOTH.

SO BASICALLY WHAT I DRAFTED, AND THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT.

IF, IF IT'S WITHIN 500 FEET, NO MATTER HOW YOU MEASURE IT, EVEN IF IT'S THE, IT'S IT'S OUTLYING CORNER, THOSE SCHOOL GROUNDS, IT'S TOO CLOSE.

I THINK THAT'S YOUR CONCERN.

MY CONCERN IS SITUATIONS WHERE YOU HAVE LIKE, UM, LIKE PINE HEARTS ELEMENTARY.

IT'S NOT, IT'S NESTLED IN LIKE THIS.

SO YOU COULD, RIGHT NOW THERE'S A VOLUNTEER FIRE GROUP THERE, BUT YOU COULD END UP WITH SOMETHING COMMERCIAL.

THAT AREA DOES HAVE SOME COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO PUT, SO YOU COULD HAVE COMMERCIAL RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO IT.

YOU COULD HAVE COMMERCIAL LAEL IS ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE WHERE IT'S STRAIGHT LIKE THIS AND YOU HAVE DEVELOPMENT HERE, DEVELOPMENT HERE AND DEVELOPMENT BEHIND THEM.

BUT YOU STILL HAVE THE 500 FOOT, BUT IT'S NOT THE CORNER PIECE.

SO IS IT ONLY, IT'S ANY POINT OF THE SCHOOL .

SO EVEN IF THEY'RE BEHIND THEM, BUT THEY'RE NOT A CORNER LOCK.

EXACTLY.

THE, THIS MY, WHAT I DRAFTED IS, IS DRAFTED

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THAT WAY.

AND THIS EMAIL THAT I GOT THAT I JUST READ FROM YOU MAKES IT CLEAR.

I AGREE.

THE REGULATION FROM THE STATE IS POORLY DRAFTED.

I DON'T KNOW WHO DRAFTED THIS THING, BUT WHAT I DRAFTED IS MUCH MORE CLEAR.

AND NOW THAT I GOT THE EMAIL, WHAT I DRAFTED IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT.

LIKE I SAID, IF THERE'S ANY POINT OF THE SCHOOL GROUNDS WITHIN 500 FEET, IT'S TOO CLOSE PERIOD.

EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE THE RESTRICTION IF ON THE SAME ROAD, IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE THE SAME ROAD ON THE SAME ROAD STRAIGHT OUT OF THE REGULATIONS.

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I READ IT IN YOU HAD, YOU HAD SENT THIS EXPLANATION IN THE EMAIL TO US.

CORRECT.

SO WE, THE ON THE SAME ROAD IS STRAIGHT OUT OF THE REGULATIONS.

I MEAN, I GUESS WE COULD TAKE OUT THE WORD ON THE SAME ROAD.

UM, IF YOU WANNA DO THAT, I DON'T THINK IT REALLY HURTS.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN HAVE IT WHERE IT BACKS UP TO THINGS LIKE A SCHOOL.

IF YOU MAKE, YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT.

IF YOU TAKE OUT THE PARENTHESES, THE PART THAT'S IN THE PARENTHESES, IF ON THE SAME ROAD, IF YOU TAKE THAT OUT, IF YOU AMEND YOUR MOTION TO TAKE THAT OUT, IF ON THE SAME ROAD, THAT'S FINE WITH ME.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT BECAUSE OF THIS EMAIL THAT I GOT.

I A THE POINT YOU MADE AND THEN I KNOW YOU TOOK IT FROM THE CORNER, NOT THE CENTER OF THE, THE ENTRANCE TO THE SCHOOL, BUT IT DOES GO, BUT YOU DO HAVE TO THE CENTER OF THE NEAREST ENTRANCE, UH, OF THE BUSINESS.

I DON'T THINK IT SAYS THIS, BUT LET ME GO.

AND B OKAY.

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THIS WHOLE THING I HAVE TO TELL YOU.

, UM, 500 FEET OF SCHOOL GROUNDS AS MEASURED ON A STRAIGHT LINE FROM THE NEAREST POINT OF SAID SCHOOL GROUNDS RIGHT TO THE CENTER OF THE NEAREST ENTRANCE, THE CENTER OF THE, AND THAT I CAN'T CHANGE.

YEAH, BECAUSE THAT'S STRAIGHT OUT OF THE REGULATIONS.

I CAN'T SAY I CAN, WE CAN CHANGE THE, THE, THE DEFINITION OF SCHOOL GROUNDS, BUT WE CAN'T CHANGE, I DON'T THINK THAT THE QUESTION OF WHAT THE CENTER OF THE, OF THE DISPENSARY IS.

SO ANY POINT OF ENTRANCE, IT HAS TO BE 500 FEET AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY LIGHTS ESSENTIALLY.

YEAH, THAT'S, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING .

BOTH POINTS ARE VERY WELL TAKEN ON.

LIKE I SAID, I THINK YOU CAN TAKE OUT THE TICAL PART.

I'M NOT SURE THE OTHER CHANGE NECESSARILY WORKS.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

OPPOSED? IS THIS THE MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CH WITH THE CHANGES OR THERE NO MOTION MADE TO MAKE CHANGE, MAKE CHANGE? NO, THEN NO, IT, UH, IT PASSES.

UM, ALRIGHT, SO THAT BRINGS US TO, I BELIEVE TOWN BOARD AUDIT OF CASH DISBURSEMENT TO BE RESOLVED.

THE TOWN BOARD APPROVED THE OCTOBER 23RD, 2023 AUDIT OF CASH DISBURSEMENTS.

UM, TOTAL CASH DISBURSEMENTS SUBMITTED FOR AUDIT.

1,100,004 $5 AND 82 CENTS.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE FAVOR BY SAYING AYE.

THAT TIME IS NON-TRANSFERABLE.

ALRIGHT.

SO I BELIEVE THAT BRINGS US TO THE END OF OUR AGENDA FOR THE EVENING AND OPENS THIS UP TO BUSINESS FROM THE FLOOR.

AGAIN, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD, UH, WE WILL GIVE YOU THREE MINUTES.

WE'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN THOSE THREE MINUTES ARE UP.

PLEASE BE RESPECTFUL WITH YOUR COMMENTS.

PLEASE ADDRESS THE TOWN BOARD.

AND, UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S IT.

I KNOW THAT MS. REESE HAS DONE VERY PATIENTLY WITH, MY NAME IS BARB REESE.

MY DAUGHTER CASEY GER WAS KILLED ON AUGUST 20TH OF THIS YEAR IN THE CORNER OF ROUTE 62.

AND STRAND, I WAS UNABLE TO COME TO THE LAST MEETING AND I COULD ONLY COME TO ONE EACH MONTH DUE TO MY WORK SCHEDULE.

SO, UM, AT LAST THAT WE HAD SPOKE, IT WAS LEFT THAT YOU WERE GONNA LOOK INTO MY REQUEST FOR A SAFETY AUDIT VERSUS A TRAFFIC AUDIT.

UM, I WAS PLEASED TO HEAR THIS EVENING

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THAT THE, UH, CLARK AND MCKINLEY AUDIT THAT YOU HAD ORIGINALLY TOLD ME ABOUT IN AUGUST HAS PROGRESSED TO THIS POINT WHERE, WHERE YOU'RE LIKE MAKING THINGS HAPPEN AND THAT'S WHAT YOU PROMISED.

AND I'M HOPING TO THAT, AND I'M VERY GLAD TO SEE THAT HAPPEN.

SO I WANTED TO FIND OUT TONIGHT IF A DECISION WAS MADE ON A TRAFFIC AUDIT OR THE SAFETY AUDIT, IF IT'S BEEN SCHEDULED, WHEN IT'S SCHEDULED FOR, WHO'S GONNA BE DOING IT, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, MY DAUGHTER'S 27TH BIRTHDAYS THIS WEEK ON WEDNESDAY.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO HONOR HER BY KNOWING WHAT, UH, WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS AND THAT WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE THAT EFFECTIVE CHANGE FOR SAFETY IN OUR COMMUNITY.

ANYBODY ELSE HERE TO BE HEARD DURING PUBLIC EXPRESSION? UM, SOMEONE UP? YEP.

I'M SORRY, I LOST FRANCINE.

MIGHT, UM, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, AND I KNOW YOU CAN'T RESPOND WITH, BUT MAYBE BY EMAIL OR OTHERWISE, BUT NUMBER 15 ON THE AGENDA, SPOKE ABOUT THE APPOINTMENT OF AUDREY AVA TO THE LWRP APPOINTMENT.

I'M WONDERING IS THERE LIKE A LIST, LIKE AN APPLICATION PROCESS FOR THAT? BECAUSE I, I'D LOVE TO BE ON A WATERFRONT COMMITTEE SUCH AS THIS, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THE TARGET COMPANY ABOUT HOW THOSE, UM, POSITIONS ARE ELECTED AND DETERMINED.

I WANNA ADD ANY MORE OF THIS MARATHON.

WE REALLY NEED TO SERIOUSLY LOOK AT ZONING, ESPECIALLY AS THESE TRUCK TERMINALS ARE POPPING UP, UH, ON OUR ON IN PLANNING.

AND I'VE BEEN PLANNING BOARD ALL THE TIME ASKING ELISE, AND THEY'RE, WE'RE CONSTANTLY LOOKING AT THIS.

UH, WE'VE GOTTA CONSIDER AS THESE TRUCK TERMINALS KEEP COMING ONLINE, HOW THIS IS AFFECTING TRAFFIC IN HAMBURG AND ANY FURTHER PROPOSALS FOR TRUCK TERMINALS.

THESE ARE NOT TRUCK STOPS.

THESE ARE NOT WAREHOUSES.

THESE ARE TRUCK TERMINALS.

THEY'RE TRYING TO TURN THIS INTO SOME KIND OF A WAR ZONE HERE WITH THE, WITH, WITH TRAILERS MOVING IN CONSTANTLY.

WE'VE GOT ANOTHER, WE'VE GOT TWO COMING ONLINE SHORTLY.

UH, WE NEED TO BEGIN LOOKING AT TRAFFIC PATTERNS AS WE PROGRESS ADDING MORE AND MORE OF THESE THINGS.

AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE NEED TO HAVE PERHAPS EVEN MORE RESTRICTIVE STUDIES THAN THE NEW YORK STATE DOT TRAFFIC STUDIES ARE CONCERNED.

AND WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN HAMBURG AND MAYBE EVEN ESTABLISHING OUR OWN TRAFFIC STUDIES IN REED, THIS KIND OF STUFF.

'CAUSE YOU START ADDING, I MEAN, LOOK, I I I LOVE FEED MORE NEW YORK, LIKE WESTERN NEW YORK.

LOVE, LOVE THESE PEOPLE.

THEY'RE ASKING FOR 500 PARKING SPACES.

YOU CAN'T THROW THE, YOU CAN'T KEEP THROWING THIS THERE.

THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH ROOM IN THE BUCKET.

YOU CAN'T KEEP ON THROWING THESE THINGS WITHOUT BE, WITHOUT BEGINNING TO HAVE SERIOUS IMPACTS AND THE QUALITY OF OUR LIFE.

NOTHING TO REPORT ENGINEERING CONSULTANT.

GOOD.

WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO BE HEARD? ALL RIGHT.

THAT MOVES US TO, UH, DEPARTMENT HEADS.

UH, IT, FINANCE.

JUST ON BEHALF OF KEN, HE WANTED, UH, ME TO MENTION A REMINDER, THE WEST ARNOLD WATERLINE PROJECT HAS A, UH, PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER NINE, FIVE O'CLOCK HERE.

SO ANY RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA OR PUBLIC CONCERNS WITH THAT AREA SHOULD MOVE TO ATTEND.

THANK YOU KIMMY.

AND I KNOW YOU GAVE, UH, A MORE DETAILED BOARD ON KEN'S BEHALF AT THE WORK SESSION REGARDING THE GRANT APPLICATIONS OR SEVERAL INTERSECTIONS THROUGHOUT THE TOWN.

I DID HAVE A CON AND, AND, AND CAMMY GAVE THAT REPORT BECAUSE KEN, OUR SUPERINTENDENT OF PUBLIC WORKS WENT HOME ILL THIS AFTERNOON, SO HE WASN'T ABLE TO PRESENT.

BUT I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH MR. ESTONIA, UH, LAST WEEK.

AND HE HAD INDICATED THAT THE SOUTH PARK AND, UH, SCRANTON ROAD INTERSECTION WAS THE SUBJECT OF ONE OF THOSE GRANT APPLICATIONS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER DETAILS? JUST THAT YOU ARE CORRECT.

IT WAS MENTIONED THE TOP GRANT, WHICH IS, UH, SPECIFICALLY FOR PEDESTRIAN AND NON VEHICLE, BICYCLE, NON VEHICLE, UM, PROJECTS, SAFETY PROJECTS.

UM, IT WOULD FALL PERFECTLY UNDER THAT.

AGAIN, KEN HAS JUST STARTED WORKING ON THE APPLICATIONS WITH THE DOWN SPRINT, UM, RIDER AND MORE INFORMATION WILL COME TO VERY GOOD.

ACCIDENT SITUATIONS AT AND STRATTON THROUGH A LOOK BACK AND, UH, EVALUATE THE, THE INTERSECTION.

UM, LET'S GO TO HIGHWAY FORWARD PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCH.

PUBLIC SAFETY.

I WOULD JUST SAY THAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER FERRELL AND I WERE ON THE PHONE WITH NEW YORK STATE DOT.

THEY'RE GONNA DO A FIVE YEAR REVIEW OF

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SO, AND TAKE WHATEVER.

VERY GOOD.

DID YOU CATCH THAT? WHEN IS THAT SCHEDULED FOR? I DIDN'T HEAR HE, WELL, WE JUST SPOKE TO HIM LAST WEEK.

SO, UH, UM, I'M SORRY.

WAS IT DETERMINED IF IT'S A SAFETY OR A TRAFFIC AUDIT OR NOT YET? I, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE DOT'S PLANS ARE.

DID, DID THEY, THEY, THEY WERE GONNA DO A FIVE YEAR LOOK BACK AT, THEY WERE GONNA DO A FIVE YEAR CRASH DATA, UH, UH, UH, INCIDENT ACCIDENT REPORT OF THE WHOLE WHOLE AREA.

WHAT, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS DOWN, IT'S JUST ACCIDENT REPORTS, BUT I BELIEVE THERE'S, I BELIEVE IT'S MORE COMPREHENSIVE OF THAT, THE WAY HE EXPLAINED IT TO US ANYHOW.

AND THAT WOULD BE A STARTING POINT.

THAT WOULD BE A STARTING POINT WITH THEN DISCUSSION TO FOLLOW LEGAL, NOTHING TO REPORT CLERKS NORTHBOROUGH.

SO THAT BRINGS US TO REPORTS FROM THE BOARD.

AND LET'S START IN MY RIGHT.

COUNCIL MEMBER RES, UH, YES.

UH, AS MR. MCCLELLAN SAID, WE DID DID HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH, UM, NEW YORK STATE OT AND ALSO I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH ESTONIA REGARDING, UM, OUR CMAC AND OUR TAP SUBMISSIONS FOR THIS YEAR.

AND AS HAS ALREADY BEEN STATED, HE'LL BE WORKING WITH OUR, OUR, UM, GRANT WRITER MARK MALKI.

UM, THE, TO CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT, I THINK WHEN CAMMY WAS SPEAKING, SHE TALKED ABOUT, AND I KNOW WHEN I SPOKE WITH KEN, WE TALKED ABOUT THE SOUTH PARK CORRIDOR THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE, THE SCRANTON AREA WOULD BE A PERFECT SUBMISSION FOR THE TAP BECAUSE IT, IT, UM, IS, UH, WAS DEFINED IN THE GATEWAY PROJECT.

AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK HOW TAMMY REFERRED TO IT WHEN SHE WAS SPEAKING DURING THE WORK SESSION.

UM, IN A BROAD SENSE, IT'S PART OF THE, THE GATEWAY STUDY THAT WAS DONE SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

TOOK A LOOK AT EVERYTHING FROM THE VILLAGE TOWN BORDER ON SOUTH PARK GOING OUT.

AND DURING THAT TIME, WE WERE EVEN BEFORE WE STARTED THE GRANT PROCESS, THE REASON WE SOUGHT THAT GRANT OPPORTUNITY, AND THAT WAS PAYING FOR BY WILSON FOUNDATION GRANT, SO IT WAS NO COST TO THE TOWN, WAS THAT WE WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT ENTIRE CORRIDOR.

WE HAD MANY DISCUSSIONS THAT TALKED ABOUT EVEN WALKABILITY AND CONNECTIVITY ALL THE WAY DOWN TO HILBERT COLLEGE.

SO IT WOULD INCLUDE THE AREA THAT YOU'RE REFERENCING.

SO I BELIEVE THAT'S WHY, UM, KEN PROBABLY REFERRED TO IT AS GATEWAY CAMMY DID.

I KNOW I, I HAVE REFERRED TO IT AS GATEWAY, BUT IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THAT, THAT WHOLE, UM, STRETCH AND TAKING A LOOK AT THAT FROM MANY DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES.

UM, AND I ALSO THINK IT'S A, UM, AN IDEAL, UM, AREA FOR US TO, UH, SUBMIT A TAP APPLICATION.

UM, AND I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

I JUST WANNA THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT.

I WAS SUPER IMPRESSED IN THE POLITICAL ACTIVISM SIDE OF ME.

LOVES WHEN I SEE HUGE CROWDS, SO I KNOW IT WAS A EXTREMELY LONG NIGHT FOR ALL INVOLVED, BUT IT MAKES ME VERY, VERY HAPPY TO SEE SO MANY PEOPLE EXPRESSING THEIR OPINION AND MAKING SURE THEIR VOICES WERE HEARD.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR SITTING THROUGH IT ALL, AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

AND THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU, .

UM, I'M GONNA KEEP IT BRIEF.

I JUST WANT TO COMMEND OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS FOR THEIR PARTICIPATION AND THE BUDGET PROCESS.

UM, WE, WE CERTAINLY HAVE A, A NICE DOCUMENT TO DIGEST, BUT I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING HOW WE CAN MAYBE SHARPEN OUR PENCILS A LITTLE BIT.

UM, I HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO REPORT EXCEPT FOR THIS FRIDAY.

I AM JOINING REGISTER LEGISLATOR GILMORE IN SPONSORING THE TOWN OF HAMBURG POLICE'S TRUNK OR TREAT EVENT.

WOO.

YES, IT'S GOING TO BE FANTASTIC.

IT'S GOING TO BE HUGE.

THE POLICE HAVE COORDINATED, UH, QUITE THE EVENING, UM, FOR THE TRUNK OR TREAT.

UM, WE HAVE ABOUT, WE HAVE OVER 2000 PEOPLE REGISTERED TO ATTEND.

OVER HALF OF THEM WILL BE CHILDREN.

UM, AND WE ARE STILL LOOKING FOR TRUNKS TO REGISTER.

UH, SO IF ANYBODY KNOWS AN ORGANIZATION OR A RESTAURANT, UM, THE, THE INFORMATION'S ON SOCIAL MEDIA, THERE'S STILL TIME TO REGISTER SO THEY CAN MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET YOU A SPOT.

WEATHER LOOKS LIKE IT'S GONNA BE PERFECT.

70 DEGREES, SPREAD THE WORD.

THERE'S STILL TIME TO SIGN UP.

UM, TIME START, IT STARTS FIVE 30 TO SEVEN 30.

SO SOMEONE ELSE, AND YOU'RE GETTING CONFIRMATION AND YOU'RE JUST, ONCE YOU SIGN UP AND YOU PUT YOUR LICENSE PLATE AND YOU'RE IN, RIGHT, THEN YOU'RE IN, THEN YOU'RE JUST BASICALLY ON A LIST.

MORE CANDY.

THIS WAS INDEED A GOOD FIT FOR THAT COMMITTEE.

WELL, AND THAT'S THE THING.

SO I, I SHARE THOSE NUMBERS BECAUSE, UM, WE NEED A, WE NEED A LOT OF CANDY TO GIVE OUT.

I'M BRINGING MY DONATION OVER TO THE POLICE THIS WEEK.

UM, AND I KNOW A COUPLE OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE, WE'VE GOT SOME OF THE TOWN TOWN DEPARTMENTS WHO ARE PARTICIPATING.

UM, BUT IT SHOULD BE A, IT SHOULD BE A FANTASTIC

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EVENT.

SO ANYBODY'S INTERESTED, REGISTER SOON.

, I JUST WANNA ADDRESS, UH, TWO QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED, UH, DURING THE, UM, QUESTION PERIOD.

UH, THE FIRST WAS ABOUT THE 2% TAX CAP.

UM, AND I AGREE IT IS VERY CONFUSING.

UM, IN FACT, JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, UM, THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT HAS TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS.

IT'S BASICALLY, IT'S A CALCULATION.

IT'S CALLED THE TAX LEVY LIMIT CALCULATION.

UM, AND IT IS PART OF A WHOLE PROCESS THAT THE OFFICE OF THE STATE CONTROLLER, UH, PUTS OUT THAT WALKS US THROUGH, UH, THE PROCESS.

UH, THIS IN PARTICULAR IS STEP 11 OR 15 STEPS.

UM, SO IT LOOKS AT THE REAL PROPERTY TAX LEVY FROM THE FISCAL YEAR PRIOR 2000, UH, 23.

UM, AND THEN IT TAKES A LOT OF DIFFERENT FACTORS SUCH AS THE, THE TAX BASE GROWTH FACTOR PILOTS THAT WERE RECEIVED IN FISCAL YEAR 2023.

UH, OF COURSE, OF COURSE YOU'VE GOT THE TORT EXCLUSION AMOUNT CLAIMED IN FYE UH, 2023, THE ALLOWABLE, UH, LEVY GROWTH FACTOR, PILOTS RECEIVED CARRY OVER, UM, WHICH IT COMES DOWN TO ONE NUMBER, WHICH FOR US THIS YEAR IS 31,000,513, 890,000, WHICH IS BASICALLY, UM, THE ALLOWABLE AMOUNT FOR 2024.

UM, OUR BUDGET AS THE SUPERVISOR PRESENTED, UM, AGAIN, KNOWING WE HAVE UP TO 31,000,500 1389, UH, OUR PROPOSED BUDGET AT THIS POINT IS 30,993,899, UH, WHICH BASICALLY ALLOWS US $519,919 IF WE SO DESIRE, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO THAT MUCH HIGHER THAN WHERE WE STAND TODAY.

OF COURSE, WE'VE GOT SOME WEEKS BEFORE WE HAVE TO FINALIZE IT, BUT HOPEFULLY THAT EXPLAINS THE FACT THAT EVEN THOUGH THE RATE IS ABOVE 2%, UM, WE ARE WELL BELOW THE LIMIT BASED ON THE COMPLICATED, UH, CALCULATION THAT WE HAVE TO DO TO DETERMINE WHAT OUR TAX LE AMOUNT IS.

AND THE SECOND, UH, QUESTION THAT WAS RAISED WAS IN TERMS OF, UM, INVESTMENTS, HOW WE WERE ABLE TO GENERATE, UM, OVER $1.3 MILLION THIS YEAR.

UM, WE DID NOT INVEST OUR MONEY IN THE STOCK MARKET.

WE SIMPLY PUT IT IN TREASURY BILLS, WHICH ARE, UH, GOVERNMENT BONDS, VERY SAFE, VERY SECURE, UM, WHICH ARE APPROVED, UH, TO, TO, UH, USE AS A RESOURCE OF YOUR MONEY BECAUSE OF THE SAFETY REVOLVED, UH, INVOLVED IN THOSE.

UH, WE ALSO TOOK IT A STEP FURTHER AND WE DID WHAT'S CALLED THE LADDER APPROACH.

SO FROM A LIQUIDITY STANDPOINT, WHAT HAPPENS WITH, UH, A LADDER APPROACH IS YOU HAVE ONE BOND THAT IS MATURING, WHILE OTHER BONDS ARE NOT MATURING.

AND SO AT ANY GIVEN TIME, WE HAVE ACCESS TO, UH, A LOT OF THE MONEY, BUT YET THIS LATTER APPROACH ALLOWS US TO INVEST AT HIGHER RATES.

SO AGAIN, WE'VE BEEN ABLE, WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE TO, UH, HAVE ALL THE RATES THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY, UM, ASSOCIATED WITH OVER 5% EARNING, OVER 5% INTEREST.

WE ALSO, UM, TALLIED INTO, UH, A PART THAT NEW YORK STATE OFFERS, WHICH IS A, A, A HIGHER INTEREST ACCOUNT, UM, WITH SOME OF THE OTHER, MORE MONEY THAT HAS TO BE MORE LIQUID.

UH, SO, BUT THE QUESTION I THINK WAS A CONCERN WAS WE CAN'T INVEST OUR MONEY IN THINGS THAT HAVE RISK AND THINGS THAT MIGHT LOSE MONEY.

UH, WE, WE DID NOT DO THAT.

ALRIGHT.

UM, SO, UH, FRANCINE ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT, UH, OUR APPOINTMENT TO THE LOCAL WATERFRONT REALIZATION PLAN COMMITTEE.

UM, WHEN IT COMES TO OUR BOARDS IN HAMBURG, UH, ANYWHERE, ANY, ANY BOARD THAT I'VE EVER BEEN A PART OF, UH, YOU WANT TO BUILD A TEAM THAT HAS THE APPROPRIATE SKILL SETS.

SO ONE THING THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG IS, IS WE'VE DISCUSSED THE PREFERENCES OF PEOPLE.

ARE THEY IDEATORS? ARE THEY IMPLEMENTERS? IF YOU HAD A BOARD ENTIRELY OF IDEATORS, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE A LOT OF IDEAS, BUT YOU MAY NOT GET ANYTHING DONE.

RIGHT? SO THAT'S ONE FACTOR THAT GOES INTO BOARD SELECTION.

THERE'S BEEN TIMES, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR PLANNING BOARD OR ZONING BOARD, WHERE WE MAY ADVERTISE THE POSITION AND INTERVIEW SEVERAL PEOPLE.

THERE'S SOMETIMES WHEN WE HAVE A BOARD OPENING AND WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED, IF THERE MAY BE A CANDIDATE IN MIND.

IN THIS CASE, UH, WE WERE MADE AWARE OF THE, THE VACANCY.

UM, I DID REACH OUT TO ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES ON THE TOWN BOARD, UH, WHO HAS A BACKGROUND IN PLANNING FOR RECOMMENDATION, AND SHE WAS ABLE TO GIVE ME THIS CANDIDATE.

UM, WE TALKED TO THE FOLKS ON THE LWRP, SAT DOWN AND INTERVIEWED THE CANDIDATE AND DECIDED THAT

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UM, THAT'S NOT HOW EVERY BOARD APPOINTMENT WORKS, BUT THAT'S HOW THIS BOARD APPOINTMENT WORKS.

UM, AND, UH, MS. REESE, THANK YOU FOR, FOR JOINING US AGAIN, UH, TODAY.

UM, THINGS IN GOVERNMENT TAKE TAKE A LONG TIME.

UM, THEY TEND TO MOVE A LITTLE BIT FASTER WHEN YOU TRAVEL IN A PACK LIKE YOU DO AS WELL, AND BRING MORE VOICES TO THE TABLE.

SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING MORE PEOPLE WITH YOU.

UM, YOU, YOU AND CASEY ARE, ARE CERTAINLY ON OUR RADAR IN OUR HEARTS AS WE DO THE WORK THAT WE'RE TASKED TO DO ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE TOWN HAMBURG.

UM, THAT INTERSECTION IS INCLUDED IN THE GRANT APPLICATION FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS, BECAUSE CONSISTENT WITH THE GATEWAY PLAN, BUT BECAUSE OF OF YOUR ADVOCACY, WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

UM, IN PREPARATION FOR THAT GRANT, WE SHOULD DO A ROAD SAFETY AUDIT, A WALK AUDIT.

WE SHOULD TARGET THAT INTERSECTION.

THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT AT THIS POINT WOULD BE TO RAISE THIS WITH THE HAMBURG MOVES COMMITTEE.

THE HAMBURG MOVES COMMITTEE HASN'T MET IN A LONG TIME, BUT WE'LL BE MEETING ON NOVEMBER 8TH AT SIX O'CLOCK.

IT'S A VIRTUAL MEETING.

I CAN GET YOU THE INFORMATION, I CAN SHARE IT WITH YOU.

PLEASE SHARE IT WITH YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY BECAUSE WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU ON.

YOU COULD LEARN ABOUT THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING THROUGHOUT THE TOWN, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WITH THE COMMITTEE YOUR CONCERN ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC INTERSECTION.

UM, THIS, THE HAMBURG MOVES COMMITTEE HAS PUSHED ALONG THE WORK AT THE CLARK AND MCKINLEY INTERSECTION, HAS PUSHED ALONG THE WORK AT THE AMAL ROAD CORRIDOR AND IS TAKING A HARD LOOK AT LAKE AVENUE, UH, UP NEAR THE VILLAGE OF DALE.

SO THAT IS THE VERY BEST NEXT STEP TO KEEP THIS MOVING FORWARD.

UM, AND I'LL, I CAN GET YOU, I CAN SEND YOU AN EMAIL OR SEND IT THEN AN EMAIL TO SOMEBODY, UH, RIGHT AFTERNOON.

UM, THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO REPORT.

JUST, UH, REMEMBER THAT THAT HAMBURG MOVES MEETING IS OPEN TO ANY RESIDENCE THAT MIGHT WANNA HELP US WITH MAKING HAMBURG A SAFER AND HEALTHIER PLACE TO LIVE.

THERE'S NOTHING ELSE.

I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.

UH, FAVORABLY SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.