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WE HAVE, UH, TWO ITEMS ON THE WORK SESSION AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING.
UH, FIRST WE'RE GONNA HEAR FROM MR. RILEY, AND, UH, THEN WE'RE GONNA HEAR AN UPDATE ON THE MOUNT VERNON SEWER PROJECT FROM MR. CUSK.
AND THAT WILL LEAVE US ONE FULL HOUR TO DISCUSS THE 2024 BUDGET.
THANK YOU SUPERVISOR AND BOARD.
UH, IN YOUR PACKAGES, YOU'LL NOTICE, UH, UH, A, UH, ENVELOPE THERE, UH, WITH WHAT'S IN YOUR PACKAGES.
MY, OUR MONTHLY, EXCUSE ME, PLANNING BOARD REPORT, PLANNING DEPARTMENT REPORT.
I HAVE THE STATUS OF THE LOCAL LAWS IS THE GREAT WAY CINDY AND I HAVE CREATED.
SO WE CAN TRACK ALL THE LOCAL LAWS THAT WE HAVE GOING.
UH, IF YOU UPDATED ON THAT, THEN THERE'S A MEMO IN THE INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY REZONING, THE REMAINING ONES THAT ARE LEFT TO TAKE CARE OF, WHICH IS GONNA BE THE MAIN PART OF OUR CONVERSATION TONIGHT.
UH, AND THEN IN YOUR PACKET TOO, IF YOU EVER WANTED, I DO HAVE, BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF QUESTIONS WITH THE REZONINGS, I HAVE A COPY OF THE NEW MIXED HU ZONING DISTRICT AND THE AG DISTRICT.
AND I HAVE A COPY OF THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING AND THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS IN CASE YOU NEED TO REFER THOSE TONIGHT DURING ANY, ANY, UM, ANY CONVERSATION TONIGHT OR, UH, WE ARE ADOPTING SOME LAWS.
SO FIRST, I ALWAYS LIKE TO START WITH THE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.
SO WE HAVE THREE REZONINGS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE.
YOU'RE GOING TO, UH, DO A SECRET DECISION, WHICH YOU'VE SEEN, AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA REZONE THOSE PROPERTIES.
THOSE WERE THE THREE EASIER QUOTE QUOTE, EASIER INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY REZONINGS.
THEY ARE, UH, THE CAMP ROAD AREA, WHICH IS DOWN BY WHERE THE FEED MORE HAS PROPOSED.
WE'RE TRYING TO CONFORM THAT SITE.
THE FRONT OF THAT SITE WAS REZONED THE COMMERCIAL YEARS AGO.
DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT WE'VE NOW JUST REZONED THE WHOLE AREA, UH, COMMERCIAL 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT IS, REALLY A COMMERCIAL AREA FEED MORE.
WE'VE GIVEN THE LETTER BASICALLY SAYING THAT THEY ARE CONFORMING UNDER THE NEW C TWO ZONING TOO.
THEY'LL BE ABLE TO PROCEED WITH THEIR PROJECT.
WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING TO STOP THEIR PROJECT.
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CAMP ROAD, THEN WE HAVE, WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE OLD CONCRETE SITE OVER HERE, THE REEFER SITE.THE TOWN HAS DONE A LOT OF THINGS WITH, WITH LOCAL LAWS.
WE'RE NOW REZONING THAT WHOLE AREA, INCLUDING THE PROPERTIES, A WHOLE BUNCH OF PROPERTIES OVER THERE, UH, THAT ARE PRESENTLY ZONED, UH, UM, UH, INDUSTRIAL, M TWO INDU, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
THOSE AREAS ARE NOT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND THE GATEWAY STUDY THAT YOU DID, THAT YOU SPONSORED ALONG WITH THE VILLAGE SHOWS A MUCH DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT PATTERN FOR THAT SITE.
WE ARE NOW REZONING THAT SITE, ALL THOSE PROPERTIES THAT MU ONE, UH, THE BIG QUESTION HAS COME UP ON THAT WITH YOU.
AND IT'S IN THE LAW WHEN YOU AS THE TOWN BOARD REZO PROPERTIES, MU ONE, YOU HAVEN'T FINISHED YOUR JOB.
WHEN SOMEONE ACTUALLY PROPOSES, THEN THEY HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU AND SAY, IS THAT PLAN IN CONFORMANCE WITH WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THERE? AND REAPPROVE THAT SPECIFIC PLAN.
AND THEN IT PROCEEDS TO CYCL PLAN APPROVE.
SO IT'S A DOUBLE CHECK VALVE OR WHATEVER FOR YOU THAT YOU'RE REZONING THIS PROPERTY.
THERE IS NO PLAN EXCEPT FOR THE SCHEMATIC PLAN DONE IN THE GATEWAY.
SO THAT'LL COME BACK TO YOU ONCE THERE'S, UH, PROPOSALS ON THAT SITE.
THEN WE HAVE, I'M GONNA SKIP OVER THE ONE WHEN WE HAVE THE OPERATING ENGINEER SITE, WE ALL KNOW WHERE THE OPERATING ENGINEER SITE IS.
IT'S BEEN ZONED INDUSTRIAL FOR LONG AS I'VE BEEN HERE IN PROBABLY LONGER, I THINK 40 OR 50 YEARS.
I THINK THAT WAS DONE JUST TO ACCOMMODATE WHAT THEY DO OUT THERE.
UH, WE'RE REZONING IT TO WHAT EVERYTHING ELSE IS ZONED OUT THERE, WHICH IS RA.
THEY CAN CONTINUE THEIR OPERATION FOREVER.
WE TOLD THEM THEY THAT WE'RE NOT STOPPING THEM FROM DOING WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
ACTUALLY, WHAT THEY DO OUT THERE IS NOT EVEN DEFINED IN THE ZONING CODE.
WE'RE JUST SAYING THIS IS THE LONG TERM, IF EVER 30, 40 YEARS FROM NOW, THEY SOLD IT.
THAT'S WHAT THE PROPERTY IS INTENDED FOR.
AND THEN, UH, THE NEXT ONE IS THE CLOVERLEAF PROPERTY.
UM, THAT ONE'S BEEN DISCUSSED FOR A LONG TIME AND I PROVIDE, AND I APOLOGIZE, BRAD CALLED ME TODAY WANTING TO KNOW SOMEONE'S REQUESTED A MAT FOR THAT.
THERE IS NO SBL NUMBER FOR THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
IT'S WHAT'S LEFT OF ALL THE PROPERTIES AROUND THERE AND WHAT THE THROUGHWAY AUTHORITY OWNS.
SO WE DO HAVE SOME MAPS TONIGHT CASE OR A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
BUT WE HAD MAPS PREVIOUSLY WHEN WE HELD THE PUBLIC HEARING SHOWING THAT AREA WHAT WE WERE PROPOSING TO REZONING.
SO IT'S WHERE THE OLD CLOVERLEAF SITE IS.
AND AGAIN, WE'RE REZONING THAT WE CREATED A SPECIAL DISTRICT FOR THAT AREA, CAMP ROAD INTERCHANGE DISTRICT SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
BY THE WAY, THE PLANNING BOARD IS STILL WORKING ON A REPORT.
IN FACT, THERE'S BEEN REQUESTS FOR THAT REPORT.
THEY HAVEN'T FINISHED IT YET ON WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH OTHER PROPERTIES IN THE AREA.
AND THEY'RE, THEY ARE FINISHING THAT UP.
AND IF ANNISE WAS HERE, SHE COULD GIVE YOU AN UPDATE.
I BELIEVE THEY'RE READY TO GIVE YOU THAT REPORT ON THE OTHER PROPERTIES.
BUT WE BROKE OUT THE CLOVER LEAGUE PROPERTY BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THAT PROPERTY WAS GONNA BE SOLD AND WE WANTED TO GET THE, UH, GET THE ZONING IN PLACE.
AND THE ONLY OTHER THING ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT IS FROM A PLANNING STANDPOINT, IS THE ZIMMER REZONING.
THAT WAS A REZONING THAT YOU REFERRED TO THE PLANNING BOARD.
AND I FORGET THE LITTLE SIDE STREET THERE.
UH, IT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE JENS JEWELER.
UH, MR. ZIMMER HAS TALKED TO THE TOWN FOR THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.
YOU'VE GOT A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING BOARD.
ALL YOU'RE DOING NOW TONIGHT IS CALLING A PUBLIC HEARING.
YOU'RE NOT MAKING A DECISION YET.
YOU'RE JUST CALLING PUBLIC HEARING.
SO BACK TO, I'M TRYING TO GET TO, IN MY TIME BACK TO WHY I'M HERE TONIGHT IS IN THE INDUSTRIAL REZONINGS AT THE PUBLIC HEARING, THERE WERE TWO GROUPS OF INDUSTRIAL ZONINGS THAT WE DID GET SOME PRETTY LONG COMMENTS ON.
UH, WE'LL GO WITH THE ONE, AND IT'S IN YOUR, IT'S IN YOUR PACKET HERE.
ONE RIGHT OUTSIDE THE VILLAGE AS YOU'RE GOING DOWN, UH, LAKEVIEW ROAD.
AND ON THE RIGHT WHERE THE DOT FACILITY, THE COUNTY FACILITY IS, THAT WHOLE AREA THERE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT REZONING FROM INDUSTRIAL TO COMMERCIAL C TWO.
AND I'VE INCLUDED IN THERE EVEN WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE VILLAGE ADJOINING IS THERE MIXED USE, UH, REDEVELOPMENT AREA.
IT'S REALLY NOT A, AN INDUSTRIAL AREA.
IF WE LOOK AT THAT AREA, IT'S REALLY NOT INDUSTRIAL.
THERE ARE SOME USES LIKE THE DOT FACILITY AND THE COUNTY'S FACILITY, BUT THOSE CAN GO UNDER ANY ZONING.
WE LOOKED AT THE AREA AND SAID THAT THIS AREA IS MORE SUITABLE FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
THERE WERE TWO PE UH, SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT RAISED QUESTION.
ONE OF THEM WAS A PROPERTY ON THE NORTHERN PART OF THE SITE THAT WAS A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IN THE, ON THE STREET AND THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH THEY OWN.
WE WERE PROPOSING THE OWN C TWO.
SHE SAID, WHY DON'T WE JUST MAKE IT RESIDENTIAL? SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO RE HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA CHANGE THE PROPOSAL FOR THAT TO RESIDENTIAL.
THE ONLY OTHER TWO WERE THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN WHO OWNED, I FORGET THE AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR PLACE.
AND HE HAD JUST PURCHASED PROPERTY ADJOINING TO US.
HE HAD TOLD US THAT, FIRST OF ALL, I TOLD HIM THAT HIS PROPERTY WAS NONCONFORMING.
WHAT HE DOES NOW IS NOT ALLOWED UNDER THE M TWO ZONING.
AND HE HAD TOLD US THAT HE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY TO POTENTIALLY EXPAND HIS BUSINESS, WE BELIEVE.
AND WE FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT, THAT THE C TWO ZONING IS PERFECT FOR HIS USE BECAUSE THAT WILL MAKE HIS PROPERTIES CONFORMING.
I WOULD SAY HE'S STILL OBJECTED TO THAT, BUT I'M STILL RECOMMENDING WE PROCEED WITH THE C TWO ZONING.
AND THE THIRD ONE IN THAT AREA WAS A GENTLEMAN WHO CAME AND WAS CONCERNED WHO RAN A BUSINESS.
I'VE NEVER EVEN BEEN DOWN THAT SIDE STREET THERE WHERE THAT BUSINESS IS.
AND HE WAS WORRIED THAT WE WERE GONNA MAKE HIM NON-CONFORMING BECAUSE HE HAS A NEW PROPOSAL FROM NEW ERA TO DO MORE WORK THERE.
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WE HAD THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFF OFFICER AND DEPARTMENT LOOK AT THAT.WE BELIEVE WHAT HE IS DOING NOW AND WHAT HE PLANS TO DO IN THE FUTURE, WHICH IS MOSTLY ABOUT EMBROIDERY AND WHATEVER FALLS IN THE C TWO ZONE.
SO WE DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE GONNA HURT HIM BY REZONING IN THE C TWO.
SO AGAIN, FOR THAT GROUP OF REZONINGS, WE'RE RECOMMENDING IT ALL STAY THE SAME EXCEPT FOR THE ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY IN THE NORTH, WHICH WE'RE GONNA REZONE THE RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE IT MATCHES WHAT PART OF THE LOT THAT THEY'RE, A LOT THAT THEY ARE ON.
SO WITH THAT, IF YOU AGREE WITH THAT, WE WILL PROCEED WITH REHO A PUBLIC HEARING.
WE HAVE TO RE HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING.
WE'RE MAKING THAT ONE MINOR CHANGE AN EXPLANATION.
BUT IF WE WANNA SET FOR NEXT MEETING, WE WILL.
WE'RE NOT DOING IT TONIGHT WITH YOUR DIRECTION.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S THE WAY WE WANNA PROCEED THERE.
SO FOR NOW, I'LL LEAVE YOU WITH ALL THAT INFORMATION.
PLEASE CALL ME IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT.
THIS IS ALWAYS, AS I SAID BEFORE, THIS IS THE HARD PART OF COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS IMPLEMENTING IT REZONINGS AND CHANGES OF LAWS ARE DIFFICULT.
YOU'RE NEVER GONNA MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY.
WE TRY TO, AND THE TOWN BOARD HAS GIVEN ME DIRECTION TO DO THE BEST FOR THE TOWN, BUT AS LEAST IMPACT THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE SITE.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO DO THINGS THAT WE'RE NOT CREATING TERRIBLE PROBLEMS FOR PEOPLE, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THE VISION OF THE COMMUNITY THAT IS NOT AN INDUSTRIAL AREA OF THE TOWN.
WE FIRST TOOK THIS BIG TRACK OF WHERE THERE ARE MIS OWNED INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES, ALRIGHT? THE SECOND ONE THAT WE'RE RE HOLDING A PUBLIC HEARING ON IS AT LAKE VIEW.
AND THE RAILROAD TRACKS, AS YOU KNOW, YOU GO DOWN LAKE VIEW, YOU GET TO THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF, THERE'S A, THERE'S A COMMERCIAL AREA, SMALL COMMERCIAL AREA WITH SOME RESTAURANTS AND WHATEVER.
AND THEN YOU HAVE, UM, THE SIDE STREET THAT GOES BACK TO, UH, MR. SPITLER CAME TO THE MEETING, WAS UPSET THAT WE WERE REZONING HIS INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY TO TO, UH, AT THAT TIME WE WERE CLOSING RA AND HE ALSO OWNS PROPERTY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET BEHIND A RESIDENTIAL HOUSE.
I KNOW BETH, OTHERS HAVE TALKED TO MR. SPITLER, WHO OWNS A LOT OF THE PROPERTY THERE.
UM, WE DID NOT COME TO A CONCLUSION WITH HIM, BUT IT WAS STILL OUR STRONG RECOMMENDATION THAT WE WON'T REZONE HIS PROPERTY TO RA.
WE UNDERSTAND IT HAS A BUSINESS TYPE USE, BUT WE WOULD RECOMMEND NEIGHBOR OF COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS THE AREA WHICH IS MUCH OF WHAT'S IN THE AREA.
IT IS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.
I, I'VE TRIED TO EXPLAIN, AND HE'LL, HE'LL COME TO THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING THAT HIS, HIS ESPECIALLY HIS PROPERTIES ARE A THOUSAND FEET OR 500 FEET TO 750 FEET AWAY FROM THE ROAD, THAT HE'D HAVE TO EXTEND A ROAD TO DO ANY BUSINESS THERE.
ANYWAY, WE THOUGHT NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL WOULD ALLOW HIM TO DO A LOT OF CREATIVE THINGS WITH HIS PIECE OF THE PROPERTY.
AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, THERE'S A RESIDENTIAL HOUSE THERE THAT'S ZONED INDUSTRIAL.
THEY NEED TO BE REZONED NEIGHBOR COMMERCIAL TO MAKE THEM CONFORMING.
AND THEN HIS SMALL BUSINESS BEHIND THAT.
WE'RE ALSO RECOMMENDING NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, AGAIN, NOT RA, BUT NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.
THAT WAY HE CONTINUE HIS EXISTING BUSINESS AND IF HE WANT TO DO OTHER SMALL BUSINESSES ON THAT SITE, WHERE HAS GUN? IT GOT A LITTLE COMPLICATED SINCE THE LAST TIME I MET WITH YOU.
THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR MR. SPITZER'S PROPERTY, WHICH WERE THE ONES WE WERE RE WE WERE PROPOSING TO REZONE IN BETWEEN MR. SPITLER TIES ARE THE EXISTING, AND I DON'T KNOW THE NAME OF THE BUSINESS, BUT THEY HAVE OUTDOOR BOAT STORAGE THERE.
IT HAS TURNED INTO A JUNKYARD.
THERE IS JUST WASTE ALL OVER THE PROPERTY AND WHATEVER.
THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME CONTROLS PUT ON THOSE PROPERTIES.
WE WEREN'T PRESENTLY PROPOSING TO REZONE THOSE PROPERTIES.
AND I'M PROBABLY RECOMMENDING YOU'LL SEE IT, MY REPORT THAT WE PROBABLY TAKE THOSE PROPERTIES TO AND REZONE THEM.
THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS WE'RE GONNA CREATE NON-CONFORMING USES FOR THEM AND THEY CAN CONTINUE THAT OPERATION, HOPEFULLY IN CONFORMANCE WITH WHAT THEIR ORIGINAL APPROVALS WERE.
'CAUSE I'M SURE WE DID NOT APPROVE THEIR PROPERTY WITH OUTDOOR STORAGE AND JUNK ALL OVER THE PLACE.
THERE'S ONE AREA WHERE THERE'S A CLOSED FENCE WHERE THEY HAVE OUTDOOR STORAGE THAT IS ALLOWED UNDER AND BE A CONTINUING NON-CONFORMING USE.
BUT I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU ON ON THE SPOT TONIGHT, BUT TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND SEE WHAT WE WANT TO PROPOSE IN THAT AREA.
I'VE COME UP WITH MY RE OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR MR. SPITLER PROPERTIES, WHICH ARE NEIGHBORHOOD, COMMERCIAL OR I EVEN SAY AGRICULTURE, AG, THE NEW AG DISTRICT, WHICH YOU HAVE A COPY OF.
FIRST OF ALL, THEY'RE ALL, THEY'RE A MESS.
I THINK ON THE FIRST ONE, UNLESS I HEAR FROM YOU, WE WILL HAVE FOR THE NEXT MEETING A CALL, THE NEW PUBLIC HEARING.
SO THERE'S THE LAKEVIEW RAILROAD, THERE'S SOME, WE'RE NEVER GONNA SATISFY EVERYBODY.
THERE, THERE ARE, THERE ARE EXISTING PROBLEMS. GO DOWN THERE AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT IF YOU HAVE, I DON'T KNOW.
THERE'S, THERE'S PROBLEMS DOWN THERE.
UM, I DID DO AN ONSITE INSPECTION WITH MR. STILLER.
UM, MY QUESTION IS ON HIS LAST PROPERTY THAT HE IS, UH, MR. SPITLER IS ALL THE WAY AT THE END.
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THAT'S, I JUST WANNA CON CONFIRM THAT YOU SAID THAT'S NON-CONFORMING NOW.WELL, THERE'S NO USE ON IT NOW.
IT IS A, IT IS A VACANT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
NO, I'M TALKING THIS, THIS IS THE ONE THAT THERE IS ACTUALLY, OH, THAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE, ON THE OTHER SIDE, NORTH SIDE OF THE ROAD, WHICH HAS THE HOUSE AND THEN THE ONE THAT IS BORDERLINE NON-CONFORMING.
IT IS A, I BELIEVE A PLUMBING REPAIR BUSINESS WHERE THEY TRUCK PARKED THEIR CARS THERE AND WHATEVER.
SO, YOU KNOW, INDUSTRIAL, I GUESS YOU COULD MAKE SOME, SOME, UH, INTERPRETATION THAT THAT'S ALLOWED USE.
BUT WE THINK PUT AN NC NC WOULD SPECIFICALLY ALLOW THOSE.
IF YOU LOOK IN THERE AND WHATEVER, OR C ONE WOULD ALLOW THOSE.
AND AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO CONFORM THE AREA.
IF YOU LOOK AT DOWNTOWN LAKEVIEW TAKING OUT, NOT LOOKING AT WHAT, WHAT THE PAST HAS BEEN THERE.
IT REALLY HAS TURNED INTO A, A DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AREA.
IT USED TO BE AN INDUSTRIAL AREA BY THE WAY.
EVEN THE COUNTY ASKED, WELL, WHY ARE YOU DOING THAT? THERE'S RAILROAD TRACKS THERE.
THEY TOOK AWAY THE SIDING YEARS AGO.
THERE'S NO POSSIBILITY TO TIE INTO THE RAILROAD THERE.
SO REALLY NO PURPOSE OF IT BEING INDUSTRIAL.
IT'S REALLY NOT AN INDUSTRIAL AREA.
IF YOU LOOK AT, THERE WAS THE OLD HASBRO PLASTICS JUST DOWN THE ROAD, WHICH IS LONG GONE NOW AND WHENEVER.
SO IT'S REALLY, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE DOWNTOWN LAKE VIEW A RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL SUPPORT AREA THAT YOU COULD DO SOME CREATIVE THINGS WITH.
THEN I REALIZED MR. SPITLER PROPERTY IS VERY UNIQUE.
IT HAS, LIKE I SAID, DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS TO ENTS OF IT.
IT'S OLD ROADS THAT HAVE BEEN DEAD-ENDED AT THE RAILROAD.
THERE'S RAILROAD OLD RAILROAD SIDING LAND THAT'S NOT USED ANYMORE.
THERE'S BALL FIELDS ON THE ONE SIDE OF, OF THE SITE OF WHATEVER.
I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT AND WE TRY TO CONVINCE 'EM THAT INDUSTRIAL DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE FOR THAT AREA OR THOSE PIECES OF THE PROPERTY.
YOU'RE NEVER GONNA GET INDUSTRIAL USERS THERE.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO DO BEST WE CAN.
IT IS A MISHMASH OF USES RIGHT NOW.
AND I'M TRYING TO CREATE AS MINIMUM PROBLEMS, BUT ALSO SAY THIS IS THE VISION OF THE TOWN.
THE VISION OF TOWN OF DOWNTOWN LAKEVIEW.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE A, A HAMLET.
HAMLETS NO LONGER HAVE INDUSTRIAL.
YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE RAILROAD.
BUT REALLY NO INDUSTRIES LEFT IN THAT AREA.
IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE LONG TERM FOR INDUSTRIAL.
AND AGAIN, WE'VE LEARNED OUR LESSONS THE HARD WAY.
THE COUNTY EVEN ASKED THAT, WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? WE WANT IN THOSE TARGETED INDUSTRIAL AREAS, THAT'S WHERE INDU INDUSTRY IS SUPPOSED TO GO.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LIGHT MANUFACTURING OR WHATEVER.
UM, IN THOSE AREAS THAT ARE OLD ONES FROM 50 YEARS AGO, THOSE ARE AREAS THAT REALLY AREN'T INDUSTRIAL ANYMORE.
THEY ARE NO LONGER INDUSTRIAL.
THEY DON'T FIT INTO THE TOWN AS THEY, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY OF 60,000 PLUS PEOPLE IN WHATEVER AND HOW YOU'VE DEVELOPED YOUR PAT PATTERNS.
SO, UM, SO UNLESS I HEAR FROM YOU, I KNOW WE'RE GONNA HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE WHO OWN IT.
WE'RE GONNA TRY TO, IN TWO WEEKS, CALL A PUBLIC HEARING, NEW PUBLIC HEARING WITH THESE NEW PROPOSALS.
THE BIG DIRECTION I NEEDED NEEDED IS, DO WE WANT TO, I DON'T WANNA USE THE WORD ATTACK, BUT GO AFTER THOSE ALSO PROPERTIES IN BETWEEN MR. SPITZER'S PROPERTY THAT REMAINS OWNED INDUSTRIAL, UH, THAT ARE, TO ME IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
I WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED WHEN I WAS ON SITE TO SEE THAT, RIGHT? AGAIN, IT LOOKED ALMOST LIKE SPOT ZONING THAT THE ONE WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SO CLOSE.
THERE'S THE SAME AREA, THERE'S NO WHATEVER.
BUT LOOKING AT THAT SITE, IT REALLY, THAT AREA'S GOTTA BE CLEANED UP.
UH, WE FOUND OUT THAT, THAT THAT'S A TOWN HIGHWAY THERE THAT RUNS THROUGH THE PARKING LOT OF THAT BUSINESS AND THEN KIND OF DEAD ENDS AT THE END TO A LITTLE TINY LITTLE ONE LANE ROAD AND WHATEVER.
AND THEN THERE'S 500 FEET BEFORE YOU EVEN GET TO HIS PROPERTY.
SO YOU'D HAVE TO RE, IF YOU ACTUALLY PUT A BUSINESS BACK THERE, THEN YOU'D HAVE TO REBUILD THAT ENTIRE ROAD AND MAKE IT AN OFFICIAL, MORE OF A, A TOWN VOTE.
I MEAN, IF YOU'RE GONNA SERVICE THAT WITH FIRE EQUIPMENT, ANYTHING.
IF YOU WERE BILLED, WE WERE TRYING TO GET, TALK TO MR. SPITLER ABOUT WHAT KIND OF CREATIVE THINGS THAT WE COULD DO THERE.
THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS RECONSTRUCTING OR MORE RECONSTRUCTING A, A ROAD THERE.
UM, REALLY AS A DIFFICULT, I DIDN'T, I NEVER REALIZED IT WAS A ROAD
THE PLOW, RIGHT? SO DIFFICULT, DIFFICULT AREA.
IT HAS 50, 60 YEARS AGO IT WAS KIND OF INDUSTRIAL NATURE, HAD A RAILROAD, SIDING NO LONGER EXISTS.
ONE MINUTE PASS WHAT I WAS SUPPOSED TO DO.
I DIDN'T WANNA, I WANNA LEAVE YOU WITH YOUR NEXT THING.
SO ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? LIKE I SAID, IF YOU, I HAVE TO AS YOU KNOW, GET DRAFT RESOLUTIONS IN THE THURSDAY BEFORE BRAD WOULD APPRECIATE 'EM EARLIER THAN AT NOON.
GIVE ME ANY MORE DIRECTION ON THOSE TWO OTHER REZONINGS.
'CAUSE I'M GONNA HAVE TO PROPOSE SOMETHING.
I DON'T WANNA HAVE TO HOLD ANOTHER, I'M GONNA HAVE TO PROPOSE IT AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DECIDE AND ACT UPON IT.
OKAY? I HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THAT LETTER.
ALRIGHT, DO YOU NEED ME FOR ANYTHING? THIS, I'LL STICK AROUND FOR THE TOWN BOARD MEETING.
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HAVE A BUNCH OF RESOLUTIONS HERE.UM, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION YOU NEED.
WHY WE'RE DOING IT, BY THE WAY, QUICKLY REPORT BACK.
WE DID HEAR, WE DIDN'T GET THE OFFICIAL LETTER YET, BUT THERE WAS A QUESTION BY THE COUNTY IS MY UNDERSTANDING FOR THE REZONING WE'RE DOING WITH THE OLD CONCRETE SITE.
THERE WAS A QUESTION ON WILL THEY DO, UH, I THINK THEY DE THEY DESCRIBED IT AS RAILROAD REPAIR AND THEY WANTED TO KNOW IF WE WERE GONNA MAKE A PROBLEM THERE.
WELL, RAILROAD REPAIR IS NOT A USE.
THEY CAN CONTINUE TO REPAIR THE RAILROAD AND DO OTHER THINGS.
WHAT COULD BE A PROBLEM IS IN THE YEARS PAST, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE CONTINUING TO DO THAT, BUT THEY USED TO UNLOAD FUEL OIL THERE AT THE BACK OF THAT SITE.
REMEMBER THERE WAS A GUY WHO USED TO COME TO THE MEETING AND COMPLAIN YEARS AGO TO THE TOWN BOARD THAT WOULD BECOME A NON-CONFORMING USE IF THEY STILL DID IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY STILL DO IT ANYMORE.
AND AGAIN, IF THEY WERE TO DO SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE TOWN BOARD, PRESENT A PLAN OF HOW IT FITS INTO THE AREA AND THIS OVERALL CONCEPT FOR THAT AREA.
AND THE GATEWAY PLAN SHOWS A GREAT KIND OF DESIGN FOR THE OVERALL FUTURE FOR THAT AREA THAT WAS ACCEPTABLE TO THE VILLAGE, WHICH IS RIGHT THERE AND TO THE TOWN OF WHAT, WHAT SHOULD BE DONE IN THAT AREA.
AND WE WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH THE OWNERS OF THE SITE TO COME UP WITH THAT PLAN OF SOMETHING THAT FITS.
AND IT'S A GREAT GATEWAY BETWEEN THE TOWN AND THE VILLAGE.
AND YOU HAVE MY AND OTHERS HAVE MY CELL PHONE.
IF SOMETHING COMES UP THAT YOU NEED SOMETHING, YOU CAN TEXT ME OR WHATEVER, I'LL BE AVAILABLE.
SO EVERYONE HERE WE GO ABOUT MOUNT VERNON SEWERS AND ANOTHER ONE THAT, UH, EVERY COUPLE MONTHS I WANTED TO INFORM THE BOARD.
THIS IS ONE OF THE LARGEST PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE GOING, SPENDING THE MOST AMOUNT OF MONEY ON IT.
UM, WE ARE COMING INTO THE HOME STRETCH ON IT.
WE HAVE, WE'LL GO THROUGH THE SLIDES HERE.
SO, SO HERE'S OUR MINI SYSTEM.
NOW, THIS IS THE LAST EVERYONE KNOWS.
THIS IS THE LAST LITTLE BIT OF SEWERS THAT THE TOWN IS RESPONSIBLE FOR.
AND OUR GOAL IS TO REPAIR THESE, BRING THESE UP TO SPEED, AND THEN CONSOLIDATE THESE SEWERS WITH THE COUNTY OF
UM, SO HERE, HERE IS THE ORIGINAL.
OUR ORIGINAL ESTIMATE WAS 2.2 MILLION.
UM, OBVIOUSLY IT WAS IN MUCH WORSE SHAPE THAN WE COULD TELL BEFORE.
YOU KNOW, WE CAME UP WITH OUR PRELIMINARY, UH, ESTIMATE.
SO WE'RE AT, WE'RE GONNA BE AT $2.9 MILLION TO, TO MAKE ALL THE REPAIRS NECESSARY AND GET THIS UP TO SPEED.
NOW WE'RE SAYING IT'S ABOUT 70% DONE BECAUSE THE BULK OF THE WORK IS THE TELEVISING AND GOING THROUGH ALL THE VIDEOS AND IDENTIFYING ALL THE SPOTS.
LOOK, GETTING CONTRACTORS ONLINE AND THE CONTRACTS IN PLACE TO DO THE REPAIRS.
SO THOSE PINK DOTS ARE ALL THE SPOT REPAIRS WE'VE DONE.
THE ORANGE LINES ARE WHAT'S BEEN LINED, AND IT'S KIND OF HARD TO TELL.
THE BLUE IS SYSTEM THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO TOUCH AND THE MAGENTA IS AREA IS TO BE LINED.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE GOT PRETTY MUCH THAT ONE NORTH PART COMPLETELY DONE, ALL REPAIRED.
UM, AND NOW WE'VE DONE 98, UH, REPAIRS.
SO HERE, HERE WE'VE SEEN THIS SLIDE BEFORE.
I JUST WANTED TO RE BRIEF EVERYONE.
THIS IS HOW WATER GETS IN THE SYSTEM, HOW IT FLOODS IT.
UM, AND OUR GOAL IS TO ELIMINATE INFLOW.
SO WE'VE VIDEOED 60,000 FEET AND THIS IS A TYPICAL, YOU KNOW, BROKEN PIPE THAT WE'LL SEE.
AND, AND THE REPAIRS THAT WE'RE AFTER.
THESE ARE THE, THERE'S ALL THE TYPICAL REPAIRS.
SO THERE'S 98 REPAIRS COMPLETED.
THERE'S ONLY SEVEN MORE TO DO.
AND BELIEVE ME, THAT IS LIKE, WE'RE THERE, WE'RE AT, WE'RE AT THE END OF IT.
THERE MIGHT BE ONE OR TWO AFTER THAT.
YOU NEVER KNOW TILL YOU GET IN, LIKE YOU START DIGGING AND THEN ANOTHER LITTLE PIECE OF PIPE WILL BREAK OFF.
AND WE MIGHT HAVE TO GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.
BUT, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, THIS IS WHERE WE ARE.
NEW FRONTIER WAS OUR CONTRACTOR.
UH, AND WE WILL SHOW YOU, I'LL SHOW YOU ALL THE FINANCIALS HERE IN A SECOND.
SO 18,000 FEET HAVE BEEN LINED.
THAT'S WHERE WE ARE BEING DONE.
UM, THE NEXT WORK ORDERS THAT HAVE BEEN WRITTEN, OH, HERE'S THE TO DATE.
SO UNITED SURVEY FOR VIDEOING ALMOST 200,000, OVER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS PAID OUT IN LINING.
600,000 PLUS, UH, FOR JUST DOING THOSE 90.
IT WAS A HUNDRED SPOT REPAIRS THAT WE'VE DONE.
SO WE'RE AT $1.375 MILLION SO FAR EXPENDED.
UH, OUR LATERAL REINSTATEMENTS, OUR CLEANING TELEVISING, THAT PART'S ALL DONE.
HERE'S OUR ESTIMATE TO COMPLETE $1.5 MILLION.
AND THEN WE HAVE ABOUT 200,000.
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IN CONTINGENCY FOR THINGS THAT MIGHT POP UP DOWN THE ROAD, MIGHT HAVE A MANHOLE COLLAPSE OR SOMETHING CRAZY LIKE THAT.AND HOPEFULLY IF WE DON'T USE THAT, I'M GONNA TRY AND USE THAT MONEY FOR, UH, FLOW STUDYING AT THE END OF IT, WHICH WILL BE REQUIRED IN ORDER TO, YOU KNOW, FOR THE COUNTY TO TAKE IT OVER AND TO GET THE DEC UH, CONSENT, ORDER SATISFIED.
WE JUST RECENTLY ASKED, UH, STATUS OF IT.
THEY HAVEN'T MADE ISSUANCES YET, BUT OUR FINGERS ARE CROSSED.
WE HAD A GOOD SOLID APPLICATION.
UM, SO WE'RE HOPING THAT WE GET A GOOD GRANT.
SO THIS, THIS ISN'T ALL THE DATA, BUT THIS IS KIND OF LIKE THE ONLY PROOF WE HAVE RIGHT NOW TO SHOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.
AND THEN THESE ARE ALL THE OVERFLOW EVENTS.
SO HERE'S THE RAINFALL IN THAT FIRST COLUMN.
THEN THE DATE THAT IT OCCURRED ON THE AMOUNT OF DISCHARGE IS THE FIRST GRAY COLUMN AND THEN THE DURATION OF THE, UH, RAIN EVENT.
SO YOU LOOK AT ALL THIS DATA AND, AND YOU GOTTA KIND OF BOIL DOWN WHAT IT'S TELLING YOU.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE IN 21 AND 22, HOW THOSE COLUMNS ARE VERY POPULATED.
YOU KNOW, THEY GOT A DOZEN, A DOZEN AND A HALF IN 22.
AND THEN IN 23 WE JUST STARTED LINING IN MARCH.
SO YOU CAN SEE MONTH 1, 2, 3, AND FOUR.
AND THEN WE DIDN'T HAVE ANOTHER ONE TILL JULY WHEN WE HAD THAT MASSIVE RAIN EVENT OR TWO AND A HALF INCHES OF RAIN FELL FOR FOUR HOURS AND ONLY 132,000 GALLONS OVERFLOWED, WHICH IS A MASSIVE REDUCTION.
LOOK AT THREE QUARTERS OF AN INCH OF RAIN FELL FOR FOUR HOURS AND 400,000 GALLONS OVERFLOW.
SO THAT'S YOUR REDUCTION RIGHT THERE.
NOW THIS TOP LINE IS A BIT DECEIVING.
SO THIS WAS LESS THAN A 10TH OF INCH, UH, UH, 10TH OF AN INCH FELL FOR FIVE HOURS AND IT'S IN AN OVERFLOWED HALF A MILLION GALLONS.
WHAT THAT IS, IS THAT A STICK GOT HOOKED UP ON THE FLOW METER AND IT, IT PINNED THE FLOW METER SO THAT IT WAS COLLECTING DATA OBSCURITY.
SO WE REALLY ONLY HAVE ONE VALID READING OFF OF THAT FLOW METER RIGHT THERE.
UM, SO 'CAUSE YOU CAN COMPARE TO THE NEXT METER DOWNSTREAM AND YOU CAN SEE THE RAIN EVENTS IN THAT FIRST GREEN COLUMN.
I'M SORRY, THESE NUMBERS ARE SO SMALL, BUT FOR THOSE TWO RAIN EVENTS, THEY'RE VERY COMPARABLE.
SO YOU CAN TELL THAT SOMETHING WENT WACKY WITH THAT DATA.
SO BEING ABLE TO SEE THROUGH THE DATA THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT TO SHOW WHAT'S VALID AND WHAT ISN'T, THAT'S KIND OF LIKE THE, THE TRICKY PART OF IT.
BUT WE ONLY HAD TWO, TWO SANITARY SEWER OVERFLOW EVENTS SINCE WE'VE LINED JUST THAT ONE LITTLE PART.
SO THAT, THAT ONE NORTHEAST PART THAT WAS ALL IN ORANGE, THAT'S WHAT WAS DONE.
AND IT REDUCED OUR OVERFLOW BY THAT MUCH.
SO BY DOING THE REST OF THE SYSTEM, WE'RE GONNA BE REALLY TAKING CARE OF A LOT OF THESE, THIS EVENTS AND, AND OUR, UH, OVERFLOW EVENTS WILL BE GOING DOWN.
SO, UM, THAT'S LIKE REALLY BLOW THROUGH THIS STUFF A LOT OF VERY QUICKLY IF YOU GUYS HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
I JUST WANNA HAVE GOOD INFORMATION FLOWING OUT TO EVERYBODY, UM, ABOUT WHERE WE ARE WITH THE PROJECT BECAUSE IT IS A LOT OF MONEY AND UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S A BIG PROBLEM AND WE WANNA GET, WE WANNA GET IT, YOU KNOW, ADDRESSED IN LATER ON.
I SEE YOUR COMPLETION DATE AND IT'S RECORDS FOR 2024, SPRING 2024.
SO WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL? HOW LONG DID WE HAVE? SO FROM THE ORDER OF CONSENT YOU HAVE, UM, SO YOU GET A CONSENT ORDER FROM THE DC AND THEN YOU'RE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE THEM A PLAN OF REMEDIATING ALL THE SEWERS.
SO, UM, THE ORIGINAL PLAN AND REPORT RESPONSE THAT GHD DID, WE HAD A SEVEN YEAR PLAN TO, TO ATTACK THIS.
AND NORMALLY THAT'S, AND THAT WAS STAGED OUT BECAUSE ALL THAT MONEY WOULD'VE TO BE CHARGED LIKE THE TAXPAYERS OR THE RATE PAYERS OF THIS MINI SYSTEM WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT.
AND THAT'S A $3 MILLION HIT TO 5,000 RESIDENTS, WHICH IS, SO THAT'S WHY THAT DURATION WAS SEVEN YEARS.
THIS ARPA MONEY HAS GIVEN US THE ABILITY TO FIX THIS WITHOUT ANY IMPACT TO THAT COMMUNITY THAT ARPA MONEY IS, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE USED FOR.
CREATING, CORRECTING THESE TYPES OF SITUATIONS AND, UM, NOT PUTTING BURDEN ON, ON THE COMMUNITY.
SO YEAH, WE REALLY BUSTED OUR BUTTS.
WE GOT, I MEAN THIS IS GONNA BE DONE IN, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY 15 MONTHS.
SO FROM START MARCH WHEN WE, YOU GUYS AUTHORIZED THE FIRST CONTRACTS WAS, UH, PROBABLY LIKE FEBRUARY.
AND HERE WE ARE, WE'VE ALREADY GOT MOST OF THE SYSTEM REPAIRED AND THE SPOT REPAIRS DONE, WHICH ARE THE BIGGIE AND THEN THE LINING'S GONNA GO FAST.
SO, UM, BY, I'M HOPING DECEMBER, JANUARY THE LAST LINER'S GOING IN.
AND THEN WHAT WE'LL DO IS, UH, SET UP A CONTRACT FOR WET WEATHER
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FLOW MONITORING.SO WE'LL GET A CONTRACTOR IN, SPECIALIZED IN, IN DOING THE FLOW METERING AND THEY'LL MONITOR THEIR SYSTEM DURING WET WEATHER EVENTS, AT LEAST FOR A MONTH.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL TAKE ALL THAT DATA, PUT IT INTO A REPORT, AND THEN WE TURN IT OVER TO THE COUNTY.
THE EPA WAS JUST IN WITH THE DEC LAST MONTH.
UM, WE HAD A FULL DAY LONG MEETING WITH THEM.
THEY WENT THROUGH EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING.
UH, EPA GUY WAS, MOST OF HIS QUESTIONS WERE ABOUT SYSTEM MAINTENANCE FOR THE WHOLE TOWN.
AND AS I SAID, THE WHOLE TOWN IS MADE EXCEPT THIS LITTLE MINI SYSTEM IS MAINTAINED BY ERIE COUNTY.
SO AFTER WE WENT THROUGH OUR LITTLE MINI SYSTEM AND OUR PROJECT HERE, THEY TOOK 'EM OVER TO, UH, SEWER DISTRICT NUMBER THREE AND WALKED THROUGH ALL THE MAINTENANCE SCHEDULES AND THE SEWER TREATMENT PLANT AND ALL THE PUMP STATIONS AND THE MAINTENANCE THAT WENT THROUGH THEM.
WE GOT A REPORT FROM THEM AND YOU KNOW, OUR STUFF IS GOOD.
THEY'RE HAPPY WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SO, UM, ALL GOOD REMARKS ON THAT.
AND, AND THE FACT THAT WE GOT SOMETHING OF THIS MAGNITUDE ADDRESSED QUICKLY THAT OUR FUND WAS MONEY WAS REALLY WELL, WELL USED.
SO, UH, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT ONE PROJECT NEXT MONTH.
I'LL DO ANOTHER QUARTERLY PRESENTATION ON EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT'S GONNA COME.
AND I, I'LL BOOK OUT SOME TIME FOR THAT AND I'LL TRY TO TALK SLOWER.
HAVE QUESTION WILL, UM, GRANT, WHEN WILL YOU FIND OUT? IS THERE A DEADLINE? DO WE KNOW? WE HOPE BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
UM, THAT'S WHEN I BELIEVE THEY, THEY JUST PUT OUT A SECOND ROUND.
SO MY GUESS IS IS THEY'VE GONE THROUGH ALL THE APPLICATIONS.
THIS IS JUST, MY GUESS HOW IT'S GONE HISTORICALLY IS THEY'VE GONE OUT, UH, GONE THROUGH ALL THE APPLICATIONS, THEY'RE TALLYING UP EVERYTHING THAT THEY'RE CUTTING OUT AND THEN THEY JUST PUT OUT A SECOND ROUND FOR CLEAN WATER, NOT WASTEWATER.
'CAUSE WE'RE, THIS IS, WE'RE PLAYING AROUND THE WASTEWATER HALF OF IT.
SO I WOULD IMAGINE, UH, I'M HOPING IT WOULD BE A NICE CHRISTMAS PRESENT FOR THE TOWN.
AND IN TERMS OF IF WE DO, OR IS IT AN ALL OR NOT? IN OTHER WORDS, CAN YOU GET PARTIAL OR IS IT EITHER 25% OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT COSTS OR NOTHING? OR NOTHING OKAY.
AND THEN FOR BUDGETING PURPOSES, ARE WE GONNA FACTOR IN IF WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, ASSUMING WE DON'T, UH, AT THIS POINT WE DID NOT BECAUSE THERE REALLY WASN'T MUCH CERTAINTY IN GETTING THAT MONEY.
UM, THERE'S THRESHOLDS THAT YOU CAN USE TO BE COMFORTABLE, BUT BECAUSE WE WERE SO EARLY IN THE PROCESS, PENN DOES FEEL GOOD THAT WE'RE GONNA GET THE GRANT, BUT WE CAN CREATE OUR BUDGET BASED ON A, A GOOD FEELING.
SO WE DID NOT TAKE THAT EXTRA MONEY THAT WE GET BACK INTO THE BUDGET 4 24.
BUT ARE WE USING THE UPDATED NUMBERS ON THE UPDATED COST? YEAH, YEAH.
WE, WE PUT OUR APPLICATION IN AND WHAT OUR PROJECTIONS WERE, OUR ENGINEERING ESTIMATE, WE SUBMITTED ALL THE DOCUMENTATION THAT WE HAD FOR HOW IT CAME TO BE IN THE CONSENT ORDER AND ALL THAT STUFF.
UM, EVERYTHING THAT I'VE ALREADY ASKED TO ALLOCATE, LIKE FOR FROM HARPA MONEY THAT YOU GUYS APPROVED IS, SHOULD COVER THE COST.
SO IF WE GET THE GRANT, THEN WE CAN REALLOCATE THAT MONEY PORTION OF THE ARPA FUNDS TO SOMETHING ELSE.
SO, UH, JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, THE ARPA DOESN'T HIT LIKE THE GENERAL TAXPAYERS OR RATE PAYERS.
SO, SO YOU, SO JUST TO PUT THE PROJECT INTO THE MOST SIMPLEST TERMS, THE DAC CAME TO US BECAUSE DURING THESE HEAVY RAIN EVENTS, THERE WAS ROSTER WHICH GOING INTO LAKE ERIE.
SO WE CORRECTED THAT OR WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF YEAH, WE'RE REDUCING IT AS WE GO.
SO THIS, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THIS IS, THIS IS THE LAST SEWER DISTRICT AT THE TOWN IS RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.
SO THE OTHER SEWER DISTRICTS WE'VE, WE'VE GIVEN OVER TO THE COUNTY.
AND WE CAN ASSUME OR ARE WE AWARE THAT THOSE ARE IN, IN GOOD SHAPE? NO, UM, THEY'RE NOT, UH, WE KNOW THAT.
SO THIS IS SEWER DISTRICT? YES, YES.
SO AS WITH ANY SEWER, THERE'S IT'S CAPACITY ISSUES AND AGE.
SO AS PART OF ANY DEVELOPMENTAL PROJECT THAT HAPPENS THAT COMES TO ANY MUNICIPALITY, WHENEVER YOU HAVE A A SEWER CONNECTION, UH, PART OF THE REGULATION THAT THE DEC IS ENFORCED, IT'S CALLED THE FOUR TO ONE I AND I OFFSET RATIO.
SO HOWEVER MUCH SEWAGE YOUR DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO PUT INTO THE SYSTEM, YOU HAVE TO REMEDIATE FOUR TIMES THE AMOUNT CALCULATED THAT'S GOING INTO THE SEWER IN AN EFFORT FOR DEVELOPMENT TO REDUCE THE COST OF, UM, PEOPLE HAVING TO PAY FOR FIXING SEWERS.
SO NOW, JUST RECENTLY, BECAUSE THAT FOUR TO ONE,
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UH, THAT THERE ISN'T ENOUGH DEVELOPMENT, UM, IT'S JUST NOT ENOUGH TO KEEP UP WITH THE FACT HOW FAST THE SEWERS ARE DEGRADATED, THEY'RE NOW MAKING IT EIGHT TO ONE.SO THEY HAVE TO REMEDIATE EIGHT TIMES THE FLOW.
IN SOME CASES, NOT ALL, BUT IN SOME CASES IF IT'S A LARGER DEVELOPMENT, UH, DEPENDING ON THE PROJECT OR WHATEVER.
SO THEY'RE MAKING DEVELOPERS PAY EIGHT TIMES.
LIKE THEY'LL SAY, OKAY, YOU'VE GOTTA REMEDIATE THIS MUCH FLOW IN ORDER FOR YOU TO DISCHARGE INTO THE SEWER.
SO THAT'S HOW IT'S BEEN SINCE THE NINETIES.
IT'S BEEN LIKE THAT, LIKE SINCE I GOT OUTTA A LONG TIME AGO.
SO, UM, IT IS UP TO THE SEWER DISTRICT TO ENFORCE THAT.
WE AS AN ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT ALWAYS MAKE SURE WE HAVE THOSE LETTERS OF SIGN OFF AND ACCEPTANCE FROM THE COUNTY AGENCIES AND THE DEC THAT THEY'VE MET THEIR REQUIREMENTS THAT BEFORE WE APPROVE A PROJECT IN THE TOWN, WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH STANDARD ACROSS EVERY MUNICIPALITY.
SO THOSE, THOSE ARE, UH, EVEN LIKE, UH, TELL YOU A STORY, EVEN EVEN IF I, WHEN I MANAGED A, A VILLAGE, I HAD SEWER COMING FROM THE TOWN OF AM OR THROUGH THE VILLAGE OF WILLIAMSVILLE, I STILL GOT TO REAP THE BENEFITS OF THAT DEVELOPMENT OUTSIDE.
IT WAS THE YMCA THAT WAS GOING IN.
SO THEY HAD TO REMEDIATE SEWAGE IN THE TOWN AND IN MY VILLAGE IN ORDER FOR THEM TO PUT, ALLOW US TO, UH, THEM TO PUT CAPACITY INTO THOSE SEWER SEWERS.
AND, AND THAT'S HOW IT SHOULD, THAT'S HOW IT GOES.
IT SHOULDN'T BE UP TO THE PEOPLE TO FIX THE SEWERS FOR DEVELOPMENT, UH, DEVELOPMENT IS WHAT'S, WHAT'S DRIVING THE COST TO GET THIS STUFF FIXED.
THAT WAS FAST TOO, WASN'T IT? YOU MENTIONED ROUND TWO, UM, OR THE CLEAN WATER THAT THE FOCUS WOULD BE CLEAN WATER.
AND SO DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT, UM, SUBMITTING AN APPLICATION FOR THAT, KNOWING WHAT WE'RE DOING OVER IN WEST ARNOLD? UH, WE DON'T MEET THE THRESHOLDS.
'CAUSE THAT PROJECT IS SO SMALL.
UM, I ALREADY LOOKED, I DID LOOK INTO IT.
AND UH, THE WATER PART OF THAT PROJECT IS UNDERNEATH THE HALF A MILLION DOLLAR THRESHOLD.
SO THEY WON'T PAY FOR LIKE ROAD AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT THEY'LL PAY TO REMEDIATE WATER.
BUT, UM, YEAH, IT'S UNFORTUNATE.
I LOOKED, I READ THE, ALL THE DATA ON IT TOO.
YOU KNOW, WEST ARNOLD WILL BE, WE HAVE A MEETING, I'LL REPORT ON THAT DURING THE TOM BOARD MEETING, BUT WE HAVE A PUBLIC OUTREACH MEETING ON THURSDAY EVENING TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE ABOUT THAT PROJECT.
I'M VERY EXCITED THAT THAT ONE'S GONNA GET DONE TOO.
WELL, THAT BRINGS US TO THE PORTION OF OUR AGENDA, WHICH IS SET ASIDE FOR, UH, BUDGET DISCUSSION.
UM, BEFORE, UH, WE OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION, I JUST WANTED TO, UM, UH, INDICATE THE, THE TIMELINE THAT WE'RE UP AGAINST HERE.
SO TODAY IS NOVEMBER 6TH AND THE TIME IS REQUIRED TO PASS THE BUDGET BY NOVEMBER 20TH.
WE DO NOT HAVE ANOTHER MEETING ON THE BOOKS UNTIL NOVEMBER 27TH.
HOWEVER, WE ARE ABLE TO SCHEDULE AN ADDITIONAL MEETING IF WE DO NOT PASS THE BUDGET TONIGHT.
UM, AN ADDITIONAL MEETING, UH, ANYTIME BEFORE THE 20TH TO MAKE AMENDMENTS AND EVENTUALLY PASS THE BUDGET.
UH, LAST YEAR, UH, WE HAD A COUPLE OF WORK SESSIONS, UH, DEVOTED TO, UH, THE BUDGET DISCUSSION THIS YEAR.
WE ALSO HAVE A COUPLE WORK SESSIONS DEVOTED TO THE BUDGET DISCUSSION.
LAST YEAR WE HAD A SATURDAY MORNING, UH, SPECIAL SESSION.
UM, AND UM, I BELIEVE IF WE NEED IT, UH, WE COULD ALSO SCHEDULE A, UH, SATURDAY MORNING, UH, ADDITIONAL SESSION.
AND THAT COULD BE NOVEMBER 18TH OR NOVEMBER 11TH OR ANY OTHER TIME.
UH, THROUGHOUT THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, UM, WE HAVE HAD, UH, I'VE HAD, UH, SOME DISCUSSION WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, HULK CONLEY AND FARRELL ON THIS BUDGET.
UM, WE WERE ABLE TO KIND OF HASH OUT SOME OF THOSE, UH, CONCERNS.
UM, AND UH, NOW WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THOSE AS A GROUP WHILE WE ALSO HAVE OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR AND SOME DEPARTMENT HEADS HERE.
SO I WILL OPEN UP THE FLOOR AMONG OUR BOARD MEMBERS FOR QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, AND THOUGHTS ON THE 2024 BUDGET.
BUT, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS INTERESTED IN, I KNOW KATHY, WE HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THERE WAS QUITE A BIT IN, IN THIS BUDGET WHERE THERE
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WERE THERE AREAS THAT YOU HAVE IN ESSENCE, ESSENCE ZEROED OUT.WE NEED THEM TO ANOTHER SET OF LINES MM-HMM
UM, AND SO IF YOU COULD JUST OFFER A LITTLE BIT OF EXPLANATION WITH THE BENEFIT THERE OR IF THERE'S, UM, ANY CHANGES THAT ARE INCURRED BY DOING THAT.
BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT AREAS THAT ARE WHOLESALE SALE AREAS GOING TO DIFFERENT AREAS, AND THEN ARE B WOULD BE, UM, SOMEWHAT THE SAME QUESTION, BUT HAVING TO DO WITH THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS, THE FACT THAT THOSE ARE NO LONGER GOING TO BE THERE.
UM, I KNOW WE ALREADY DISCUSSED THAT THERE ARE SOME PROS, THERE'S ALSO SOME CONS, BUT JUST TO GO OVER WHAT THOSE ARE, THE, THE ONLY THINGS THAT WERE MOVED FOR THE ENTERPRISE FUND, THE GOLF COURSE AND THE ICE ARENA.
UM, SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT HAPPENED, THEY HAD THEIR OWN SPECIAL SECTION IN THE BUDGET AS A PART OF THE FACULTY IN THE BUDGET.
THOSE WERE MOVED INTO, UM, IN THEIR ENTIRETY TO THE GATE.
SO WHAT MAKES IT HARD TO, FOR THE READER IS WE WERE ADVISED THAT BECAUSE THOSE ACCOUNTS EXISTED FOR 2023, THEY HAD TO SHOW THEIR 2023 BUDGET WHERE THEY WERE REPORTED LAST YEAR.
AND THEN THE 2024 INFORMATION IS BEING REPORTED WHERE IT'S GONNA BE INCLUDED IN THE A FUND THIS YEAR.
UM, FROM A PLUS OR MINUS STANDPOINT, IT WAS CLEARLY SPELLED OUT AS AN ENTERPRISE FUND IN THE PREVIOUS YEARS.
THAT INFORMATION CAN STILL BE EASILY PUT TOGETHER.
IT'S JUST ALL ROLLED INTO THE A FUND, WHICH IS JUST AN EASIER ACCOUNTING AND BOOKKEEPING TASK.
BUT AT ANY POINT IN TIME, THOSE SAME LINE ITEMS ARE REPORTED SEPARATELY WITHIN THE, A ONE WORD BEFORE THEY WERE EI FOR THE ICE ARENA AND ER, FOR THE, UM, GOLF COURSE.
SO WE WERE BACK LAST YEAR, WERE TOLD THEY REALLY DON'T HAVE A NEED FOR THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS.
ENTERPRISE ONES HAD TO BE CREATED WHEN THEY WERE SHOWING A PROFIT.
NEITHER ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS IS PROFITABLE ANYMORE.
THEY'RE BASICALLY FUNDED BY THE A FUND AT THE END OF THE YEAR FROM THE GENERAL TAXPAYER BASE.
SO FROM AN ACCOUNTING STANDPOINT, AT THE END OF THE YEAR, WHATEVER THE DEFICIT WAS FOR THOSE ENTERPRISES, THE TRANSFER HAD TO BE MADE FROM THE A FUND TO THOSE ENTERPRISE POINTS TO PUT THEM IN HOLD.
NOW, WE WON'T HAVE TO DO THAT AT THE END OF THE YEAR 'CAUSE IT'LL ALL BE ROLLED UP INTO THE A FUND RIGHT FROM
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD DO ON A PERIODIC BASIS, UH, YOU KNOW, AS PRACTICE AND, AND REPORT TO BACK TO US ON THAT.
WHAT WOULD YOU SUGGEST WOULD BE A GOOD, A GOOD TIMEFRAME? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD SUGGEST YOU DO MONTHLY, QUARTERLY? WE'RE HOPING TO GET TO THE MONTHLY STANDPOINT FOR EVERYTHING TO DO WITH REVENUE AND EXPENSES.
ONCE WE CAN GET A GOOD HANDLE ON THE NEW ACCOUNTING SOFTWARE, THAT, THAT HAS BEEN OUR GOAL AND THAT CONTINUES TO BE OUR GOAL.
UM, IN THE PAST, DEPARTMENTS WOULD GET THEIR EXPENSE LEDGERS SO THEY CAN SEE WHERE THEY ARE AGAINST BUDGET.
BUT MY GOAL WOULD BE TO HAVE A FULL ON ACCOUNTING FOR THE BOARD AS WELL AS THE INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT HEADS TO SAY, HERE, HERE'S WHERE WE ARE AGAINST THE BUDGET.
UM, I'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SAY, DO IT THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO, BUT WE'RE HAVING ISSUES WITH THE REPORTS AS THEY'RE BEING GENERATED FROM THE SOFTWARE.
SO I HESITATE TO THROW OUT REPORTS OR ANY INFORMATION THAT'S JUST GONNA LEAD TO MORE QUESTIONS.
BUT THE GOAL WOULD BE NOT ONLY FOR THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS, BUT ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS AND THE FUNDS THEMSELVES TO SHOW WHERE THEY ARE AGAINST THE BUDGET.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER PROCEDURAL DIFFERENCES, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVING TO DO WITH TRANSFERS OR HOW DEPARTMENT HEADS HANDLE SITUATIONS, ET CETERA? WITH THE MOVE OF THE ENTERPRISE FUND, RIGHT? NO.
NOW BEING NO, THERE, THE ONLY THING THAT WAS A LITTLE WEIRD IN THE PAST WAS ALLOCATION OF PAYROLL BECAUSE THESE ARE MORE SEASONAL, UM, PARTS WITHIN, UH, ENG AND THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
UM, BUT THEY'VE GOTTEN A HANDLE ON HOW TO ASSIGN THOSE EXPENSES AND PAYROLLS DIRECTLY TO THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS.
UM, BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, THE ONLY REAL TRANSFER THAT WAS REPLACED WAS, UH, YEAR END ACCOUNTING FOR THE FINANCE PRODUCT.
I UNDERSTAND THE OTHER ITEMS THAT WERE MOVED, UM, WERE MOVED OUT OF THE RECREATION BUDGET AND THESE WERE, UM, ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE HAD GIVEN, UH, ESSENTIALLY GRANTS TO, UH, FOR THEIR PROGRAMMING, THE TOTAL OF THOSE GRANTS.
AND THIS IS, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, THE, UH, HAMBURG FIRE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION OPERATES OUR WATER RESCUE UNIT.
WE'VE FUNDED THEM IN THE PAST AT $19,000 A YEAR, WE MOVED THOSE, UH, ITEMS TO, UH, A 1900, UM, WHICH CAN BE FOUND ON, ON PAGE 19 UNDER SPECIAL ITEMS. UM, IN THIS, IN THIS, UH, SECTION OF
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THE BUDGET, YOU HAVE MUNICIPAL ASSOCIATION DUES, UH, SERVICE CONTRACTS FOR OUR CEMETERIES, CONSULTANT FEES FOR OUR GRANT WRITER, FIRE PREVENTION, UH, AND SO FORTH.UNDER, UM, SERVICE CONTRACTS, UH, YOU WILL SEE AN INCREASE IN $86,600.
SO THIS IS ALL THE MONIES THAT WE HAVE, UH, PREVIOUSLY ALLOCATED TO ALL THESE GREAT ORGANIZATIONS THAT DO GREAT WORK IN OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, HOWEVER, WE PUT THEM IN A SEPARATE SECTION, UH, THAT IS UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE, THE TOWN BOARD.
AND THESE ORGANIZATIONS HAVE THAT MONEY AVAILABLE TO THEM.
UM, OUR ASK OF THEM IS JUST SEND US A LETTER OF WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH THE MONEY, UM, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE BETTER ACCOUNTABILITY OF WHAT WE ARE GRANTING THIS MONEY FOR.
UM, TO GRANT THIS MONEY WITHOUT ANY STATED OR SPECIFIC PURPOSE.
UH, WHILE BANK ACCOUNTS OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS MAY RISE, IS A PRACTICE THAT WE WANT TO GET AWAY FROM.
AND WILL THE ORGANIZATIONS KNOW OF APPROXIMATELY HOW MUCH THEY HAVE AVAILABLE TO THEM, UM, OR THAT THEIR FUNDING RATE IS THE SAME AS PREVIOUS YEARS? OR WILL THEY BE NOTIFIED OF THE, THE PROCESS TO FOLLOW? YES.
AND IS, SO IN OTHER WORDS, WATER, FOR EXAMPLE, WATER RESCUE, THEY CAN ANTICIPATE THAT THEY'RE FUNDED IN THIS BUDGET AT 19,000? YES.
AND I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MR. KITZ.
TO THAT END, IF THOSE FOLLOW ALONG, THAT'S ON PAGE 29, YOU'LL YOU'LL NOTICE ALL THOSE, UH, LISTED, UH, ENTITIES.
I HAD A QUESTION REGARDING THE, THE HIGHWAY BUDGET.
I KNOW THAT I'VE HAD COMMUNICATION WITH THE, THE HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENT, UM, BY THE SEAT MR. HUGHES HERE.
UM, WE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS.
I KNOW, UH, WE'VE ALSO SPOKEN.
UM, BUT IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH, UM, ED, HE DID PLACE AS A PRIORITY FOR 2024.
UH, THE CONTINUATION OF PURCHASING A PLOW AND ALSO, UH, SOME NEEDS THAT HE HAD IN HIS OFFICE AREA FOR A CLERK.
AND AS HIS LIAISON AND, AND OUT OF THE CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH HIM, I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT FORTH, UM, AS SOMETHING THAT HE HAD EXPRESSED WAS AN IMPORTANT TO HIS DEPARTMENT.
THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT WITH US.
I HAD MY CON MY OWN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENT, UH, AND I KNOW THAT, THAT HE AND HIS TEAM ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE THREE NEW TRUCKS THAT THEY WILL BE SEEING THIS YEAR.
UNPRECEDENTED NUMBER OF TRUCKS.
UM, AND WHILE IT WOULD BE GREAT TO EDIT A FOURTH TRUCK, UM, THE TOWN BOARD AND, AND I'VE TALKED TO SUPERINTENDENT HUGHES ABOUT THIS, HAS DECIDED THAT THAT THREE IS IS A GREAT STOCK.
SOMETHING WE SHOULD CERTAINLY BE PROUD OF.
UM, WELL, YES, IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE, WE'RE PROUD OF, BUT I THINK, UM, WHAT HIS GOAL HAD BEEN, AND AGAIN, I'M JUST STATING FROM MY CONVERSATION WITH HIM, THE GOAL HAD BEEN TWO, ACTUALLY IT IS THREE BECAUSE IT'S BEEN DELAYED BECAUSE OF PRODUCTION.
BUT THE IDEA WAS TO HAVE ONE PER YEAR, ONE FOR EACH, EACH BUDGET YEAR.
SO I WAS JUST BRINGING THAT FORTH BECAUSE OUT OF MY CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT HE HAD PRIORITIZED AS HIS NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.
AND, AND I'VE TALKED TO HIM AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT IN 2025 THAT WE HAVE THOSE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES MADE AVAILABLE.
MR. HUGHES, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD TO THE CONVERSATION? THE ONLY, THE ONLY ISSUE I HAVE WITH THE, THE, THE PLOW TRUCKS, WE DID THREE, BUT IT'S TAKEN US SO LONG TO GET 'EM.
I ORDERED 'EM A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY ISSUE THAT WE HAD IS WHEN WE PLACED AN ORDER IN, WE'RE LOOKING AT A YEAR, ABOUT A YEAR AND A YEAR AND A HALF DELIVERY WITH THE, WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON.
SO
THEY'RE NOT EVEN IN PRODUCTION YET.
THEY'RE NOT EVEN GONNA GO TO PRODUCTION UNTIL, TILL PROBABLY NEXT MONTH.
AND THEN IT'S GONNA TAKE ABOUT TWO MONTHS TO PUT IT TOGETHER.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE END OF, END OF, UM, THE WINTER THAT WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA TAKE DELIVERY OF THEM AND I WOULD, LIKE I SAID, I WANTED THESE YEAR AND A HALF AGO.
SO THAT'S MY OWN, THAT'S MY ONLY ISSUE WITH, WITH WAITING AND, AND SKIPPING A YEAR BECAUSE OF THE PRODUCTION OF GETTING THE VEHICLES IN.
SO I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THE PERSONNEL SITUATION AND, UH, YOUR REQUEST FOR A CLERK.
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UM, WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED CANDIDLY ABOUT MY CONCERN ABOUT, UM, PEOPLE WORKING OUT OF TITLE IN THE WRONG TITLE.I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE A LABOR THAT IS, UH, CLERICAL IN NATURE.
AND YOU HAVE NO INTENT OF CHANGING THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE? UM, IF, IF I DO GET A, UH, PER UP FRONT, I WOULD TAKE IT LATER POSITION AND PUT IT IN THE BACK WHERE IT LUMP.
SO IF IF DOES, IF IT DOES COME, I WOULD DO THAT.
SO THE LABORER WHO'S WORKING OUT OF TITLE, ARE THEY, THEY'RE WORKING FULL-TIME IN THE CLERICAL POSITION? IT YES.
IT'S A FULL-TIME LABOR POSITION.
YOU FILL IN, IN FRONT TAKE ACTION PHONES AND, AND ON DAY TO DAY STUFF.
SO DO YOU HAVE, AND FORGIVE ME IF YOU'VE ALREADY GIVEN THIS INFORMATION, UM, AS FAR AS RESIDENTS REACHING OUT, IS THAT THROUGH ONLY THROUGH THE PHONE OR ARE THEY REACHING OUT, RUNNING FROM EMAILS TO THE PHONE? PEOPLE ACTUALLY COMING IN? YES.
AS I SAID, IT'S, WE'RE, WE'RE VERY BUSY ON A DAILY BASIS.
SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S JUST ONE OR TWO DAYS A YEAR IF THERE'S A STORM, THIS IS SOMETHING, IT'S ALL TIME.
IS THAT YOU SEE IT FAIRLY CONSISTENT THROUGH THE YEAR? YES.
DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ABOUT HOW THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE ADDRESSED? I KNOW YOU'VE MENTIONED IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU ABOUT POSSIBLY REACHING OUT OR SOME TYPE OF COLLABORATION EVEN WITH ANOTHER DEPARTMENT.
UM, OUR OFFICE HANDLES, UM, HIGHWAY AND D AND G.
UM, THEIR, THEIR, THEIR DESK ARE RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER.
UM, IF I GET ONE FULL-TIME IN THERE AND THEN I CAN, UM, WE COULD UTILIZE THAT'S, THAT'S ALL THE PHONES.
I MEAN, THEN WE COULD EVEN SAVE COSTS THERE IF WE WANT.
BUT, SO YOUR OFFICE HANDLES CALLS FOR V AND V AND FOR HIGHWAY? NO, WE JUST ANSWERED THE HIGHWAY, BUT THERE'S A BG PERSON THERE ANSWERING THE BG STUFF.
HOW MANY CALLS ARE THEY GETTING, UM, PER WEEK? IS THERE A PEAK? I I DON'T KNOW ABOUT BG.
UM, I CAN LOOK, I CAN GO BACK AND LOOK.
I MEAN, I CAN TALK TO NATE AND WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT.
I THINK FROM THE CLERICAL POSITION, THE LABOR THAT'S WORKING OUT OF TITLE AS FAR AS CALL LOGS, WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, JUST DATA THAT KIND OF BACKS UP THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL CLERICAL, UM, FORMS. I KNOW A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES KEEP CALL LOGS ARE SAYING LIKE, WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, WE GET 30 CALLS A DAY AVERAGE.
UM, I THINK, I THINK WE'LL, UM, WE'RE GONNA AVERAGE ABOUT 5,000 BETWEEN WALK-INS AND CALLS FOR THE YEAR.
I THINK IN THE FUTURE, IF YOU CAN SHARE SOME OF THAT DATA WITH US, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
KEEPING TRACK NOW WITH IT, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE A SPREADSHEET WE, WE CREATED.
WE KEEP TRACK OF WHO COMES IN, WHAT THEY'RE COMING FOR AND, AND, UH, THE RE UH, I THINK IT'S BEEN RESOLVED FROM, FROM THEIR ISSUE.
SO YEAH, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO, I'LL MAYBE HAVE A SIT DOWN WITH, UH, MS, UH, ROBERTSON, UH, TO SEE HOW WE CAN MAYBE REDIRECT SOME OF THIS COMMUNICATION TO OUR TOWN WEBSITE.
I KNOW THERE'S ALSO, UM, SOME TECHNOLOGY UPGRADES THAT COULD SUPPORT, UM, THAT, THAT RESIDENT COMMUNICATION.
UM, SO THERE'S, I MEAN, I KNOW FOR THE PAST 50 YEARS WE'VE THROWN MONEY AND PERSONNEL AT, AT PROBLEMS, BUT THERE'S OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE TO LEVERAGE TECHNOLOGY TO WORK SMARTER RATHER THAN WORK MORE EXPENSIVELY.
IF WE, IF WE HAVE, WE HAVE TIME REMAINING, WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
ED, CAN YOU ALSO COMMENT A LITTLE BIT ON THE, UM, HIGHWAY, UH, I'M SORRY, THE BRIDGE FUND.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S, IN THE PAST WE'VE, WE'VE HAD, UM, AN ACCOUNT WHERE WE HAVE THAT A HUNDRED THOUSAND A YEAR.
I KNOW FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT.
I KNOW, I SEE THAT THERE'S, UM, A LARGE AMOUNT, UH, DESIGNATED FOR THAT FUND.
IS THAT, UH, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THOSE BRIDGES AND WHAT YOU ANTICIPATE? SURE.
UM, AND UM, MY UNDERSTANDING WE HAVE ABOUT $930,000 IN THERE, BUT A LOT OF THAT'S GONNA BE USED UP FOR THE, UH, MILE BRIDGE BECAUSE COLLAPSE.
SO I KNOW THEY'RE, THEY'RE UH, IN THE PROCESS OF, UH, UTILIZING SOME OF THAT MONEY FOR THAT BRIDGE.
BUT THERE'S, YOU'RE SAYING THAT CURRENTLY NOW BEFORE THE 500 THAT'S IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR WE HAVE 930.
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WE HAVE $930,000.UM, THE MILE STRIP ROAD BRIDGE IS GOING TO BE CONSIDERABLY MORE THAN $930,000.
WE ADDED $500,000 INTO THIS FUND SO THAT WE CAN TOP OFF THE SHIP ROAD REPAIR PROJECT, AS WELL AS BE READY FOR ANY OTHER REPAIRS THAT WE MAY HAVE TO MAKE IN THE BRIDGES THAT MAY BE WITHIN THE TOWN OR VILLAGE BOUNDARIES.
HAVE WE BEEN REGULARLY APPLYING FOR BRIDGE, NEW YORK FUNDING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? UM, HISTORICALLY AND CURRENTLY, I KNOW THE NEXT ROUND IS COMING OUT SHORTLY.
THESE, THE ONLY BRIDGE WE GOT IS, IS MOUSE TRIP.
UM, WE LOOKED AT THE CRITERIA FOR BEING APPLICABLE TO THAT, AND IT DOESN'T HAVE THE SPECIFIC PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC AND THRESHOLDS LIKE THAT, THAT FIT THOSE GRANTS.
SO THEY WANT THOSE GRANTS TO BE HIGH VIS BRIDGES, HIGH USE BRIDGES MASTER APPROACH DOESN'T GET A LOT OF TRAFFIC THAT GET A LOT OF PEDESTRIAN AND DOESN'T LIKE THAT MANY COMMUNITIES.
SO WE ONLY HAVE THE ONE BRIDGE, THE REST ARE CULVERTS, ORANGE CULVERTS.
SO THERE'S A REAL TECHNICAL WAY, LIKE IT'S TWO SEPARATE STRUCTURES THAT ADD UP TO 24 MORE AND IT'S CONSIDERED A BRIDGE.
THE ONE THAT'S ONLY IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW.
BUT THERE'S ALSO A BUNCH OF CULVERTS THAT ARE IN LIKE VILLAGE BLAZE DOWN THAT.
ACTUALLY, THE MATRI BRIDGE WAS EVEN CONSIDERED FOR BRIDGE CAN TELL.
WE OPENED IT UP AND WE DISCOVERED IT AND THEN THEY, NOW THEY'RE GONNA MAKE IT A BRIDGE BECAUSE, BECAUSE OF THE WIDTH AND EVERYTHING OF IT.
AND I MIGHT NOT BE REMEMBERING THIS CORRECTLY.
MAYBE PAT HASN'T HIT AGREE ON THIS.
I KNOW THAT AT LEAST IN PREVIOUS YEARS, THERE HAD BEEN NOTHING IN THIS FUND, FROM WHAT I RECALL.
I THINK THAT HAD COME UP, UM, THAT HAD KIND OF JUST BEEN, WELL, IT, IT SEEMED IN THE PAST THERE WAS A, A REGULAR A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS APPROPRIATION TO THAT FUND.
BUT WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT IT, NOBODY REALLY KNEW WHAT IT WAS FOR.
THAT'S, THERE WAS INITIAL DISCUSSION THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY BRIDGES.
THE POINT ABOUT THE CULVER, SO WE BASICALLY FOUND THIS DA FUND AND WE'RE ASKING QUESTIONS BECAUSE NOBODY REALLY HAD A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT WAS AND WHAT IT WAS BEING USED FOR.
NOW THAT WE KNOW THAT WE DO IN FACT HAVE BRIDGES OR THAT THAT BRIDGE DESIGNATION CAN BE EXPANDED WITH THE, THE PROJECT ITSELF COMING IN PROBABLY 1.2 OR ABOVE, THE AMOUNT THAT WAS IN THAT FUNDING BALANCE WOULDN'T COVER IT.
SO THIS WAS TO HELP COVER THAT, BUT THEN ALSO START TO BUILD A SURPLUS THE WAY WE SHOULD BE DOING FOR A LOT OF OTHER THINGS AS WELL.
AND THIS WAS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE ENTIRE HIGHWAY BUDGET.
MAY, THERE MIGHT BE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PEEL OFF MAYBE EVEN ENOUGH FOR A PLOW OUT OF THIS $500,000, BUT UNTIL THE BRIDGE IS TAKEN CARE OF AND WE KNOW THAT OUR FUTURE BRIDGE NEEDS WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF, WE WERE RELUCTANT TO ALLOCATE THOSE MONEY TOWARDS A FOURTH PLOW ED.
I HAD, UH, TWO QUESTIONS ON THE HIGHWAY, UM, THE MACHINERY, SO A HUNDRED THOUSAND LAST YEAR BUDGETED, UM, MACHINERY AND, AND EQUIPMENT AND WE'VE GOT A TWO 15 NOW.
UM, SO THAT INCREASE IN 115, DO YOU KNOW WHAT, UH, OR THAT REPRESENTS? YEAH, IT'D BE, UM, I PUT IN A BUDGET, UH, TO BUY TWO MORE PICKUP TRUCKS AND A HIGH LIFT SO THAT, AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE LEASING, GOING THROUGH THE LEASING PROGRAM.
SO THAT, THAT'S THE REASON WHY I WOULD RAISE THE LINE.
THAT'S PART OF THE, I'M SORRY, WHAT? ALL THREE ARE LEASED UNDER THE ONE 15? UH, THE PICKUP TRUCKS ARE, YES.
AND, UM, AND THE, THE, UM, THE HIGHLIGHT IS, IS UP IF WE COULD LEASE IT OR WE COULD, WE COULD PAY IT OUT.
AND THESE ARE, THESE ARE ADDITIONS, NOT REPLACEMENTS? NO, THE TRUCKS.
THE TRUCKS ARE GONNA BE REPLACEMENTS.
OH, AND THE HIGHLIGHT HIGHLIGHTS IS, IS AN ADDITION.
PRIMARILY FOR SNOW REMOVAL? I WOULD CORRECT, YES.
UH, THE CHEMICALS AND THE SALT, UM, YOU ACTUALLY WENT THE OTHER DIRECTION THERE.
UM, YOU, YOU REQUESTED LESS? UM, I'M JUST CURIOUS 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT'S COME UP IN THE PAST 362,000.
AND THEN WE ACTUALLY, WHAT WE FIGURED OUT WHAT WE ACTUALLY USE, WE FIGURED OUT WE CAN FIND 90, $96,000.
COULD YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, THE STREETLIGHT? I KNOW WE'VE COMPLETED A PROJECT WITH THE LEDS, UM, BUT WE HAVE THIS, THE,
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THE STREETLIGHT STREET LIGHTING, UM, AND JUST, YOU KNOW, THINKING ON GOING FORWARD AND, AND HOW THAT, THAT NUMBER AND, AND HOW IT INTERPLAYS WITH WHAT WE'VE ALREADY ACCOMPLISHED WITH OUR, WITH OUR LEP LIGHTS.SO WITH THE PURCHASE AND CONVERSION OF ALL THE STREET LIGHTS, THE TOWN GOES FROM OWNING ABOUT 500 LIGHTS TO OWNING OVER 5,000 LIGHTS.
WE ARE NOW RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THOSE LIGHTS.
SO ANYTIME, UM, A LIGHT GOES OUT FOR ANY REASON, WHETHER IT
UH, WE NOW ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR CHECKING AND CONDUCTING MAINTENANCE AS LONG AS IT'S DETERMINED TO BE OUTSIDE OF THE POWER GRID, WHICH IS STILL RUN BY THE LOCAL UTILITY COMPANIES.
UH, SO WE HAVE PUT OUT OUR STREETLIGHT, UH, CONTRACT, UM, POWER CONSTRUCTION GROUP HAVE GOTTEN THAT.
UM, SO THEY'VE GIVEN US A PRICE BREAKDOWN FOR SERVICES, MATERIAL TIME EQUIPMENT.
SO EVERY TIME WE HAVE A NEED FOR THAT, NOW WE HAVE TO USE THEM.
SO IN THE PAST WE'VE HAD, I THINK IT WAS $30,000 UNDER A STREETLIGHT ITEM.
UM, NOW WE ARE LOOKING TO INCREASE THAT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FINAL NUMBER ACTUALLY WAS.
UM, BUT WE SORT OF RAN SOME SCENARIOS IN OUR, AND LOOKED AT SOME OF THE PRICING.
ALSO TAKING INTO THE FACT THAT ALL OUR LIGHT FIXTURES ARE BRAND NEW LED LIGHTS AT THIS POINT IN TIME AND HOPING THAT THAT WILL GIVE US, UH, YOU KNOW, A GOOD WINDOW OF LOW MAINTENANCE NEEDS, UM, GOING FORWARD.
BUT WE DO HAVE TO BUY SOME, UH, SPARE PARTS, UH, POLES, LIGHT FIXTURES, AND THE ASSET NODES THAT MAKE THE LIGHTS SPEAK TO THE COMPUTER SOFTWARE.
UH, WE HAVE TO KEEP SOME OF THAT ON STOCK.
SOME ARE SEVERAL WEEKS OUT TO GET IF WE HAVE THE NEED.
UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAD TO MAKE ASSUMPTIONS ON WHAT THE MAINTENANCE IS GOING TO BE FOR 2024, WHICH IS, UH, YOU KNOW, AN EDUCATED GUEST BY, UH, KEN AND MYSELF AND, AND DEALING WITH THE PEOPLE THAT WE, WE'VE DEALT WITH.
HOWARD CONSTRUCTION GROUP WAS OUR LED CONVERSION, UH, COMPANY AS WELL.
SO THEY ARE A GOOD RESOURCE ON WHAT WE MIGHT NEED.
UM, SO THIS SHOULD PUT US IN GOOD SHAPE FOR WHAT WILL BE OUR FIRST FULL YEAR OF STREET LIFE MAINTENANCE.
AND THEN FROM THERE, UH, WE CAN BETTER LOOK AHEAD TO THE FUTURE.
IF I COULD JUST ADD A LITTLE BIT TO THAT.
UM, WE ACTUALLY DID MEET WITH, UM, A PROPOSAL CONSULTANTS THAT HANDLE, UH, MANY MUNICIPALITIES THROUGHOUT WESTERN NEW YORK.
AND THEY ARE, I GUESS WHAT YOU'D, UH, CALL, UH, AN ALL IN ALL ONE STAFF, UH, WHERE WE WOULD ACTUALLY CONTRACT WITH 'EM, PAY AN ANNUAL FEE, AND THEY WOULD ESSENTIALLY, UH, HANDLE ALL THE LIGHTS 24 7 3, 365 DAYS A YEAR.
UM, AND IT'S, IT WAS AMAZING THE TECHNOLOGY, THEY WILL ACTUALLY KNOW WHEN A LIGHT'S OUT, UM, AND HAVE IT REPAIRED WITHIN 24 OR 48 HOURS.
UM, THEY'VE CONTRACTED WITH, UH, SEVERAL MUNICIPALITIES, UH, TO DO THAT SERVICE.
BUT WHEN WE RAN THE FINANCIAL NUMBERS, UM, ON THAT, UH, WE THOUGHT IT'D BE MUCH MORE EFFICIENT, MUCH MORE ECONOMICAL, GET A MUCH BIGGER BANG FOR OUR BUCK, UM, DOING IT THIS WAY.
UM, AND I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR PROJECTIONS WERE AT LEAST A HUNDRED THOUSAND, UH, PER YEAR AND WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT WE MIGHT, THE INFRASTRUCTURE MIGHT REQUIRE THAT KIND OF SERVICE, WHICH A LOT OF PEOPLE GET RIGHT FROM THE GET GO.
UM, BUT IN OUR ANALYSIS IT'S A LITTLE PENNYWISE POUND FOOLISH BECAUSE YOU'RE PAYING THE EXACT SAME RATE THAT YOU ARE 6, 7, 8, 10 YEARS INTO THE CONTRACT.
AND WE HAVE A BRAND NEW SYSTEM.
WE'VE INVESTED THIS MONEY FOR THE LIGHTS.
UM, WE FELT IT DIDN'T REALLY MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO SPEND SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OR OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO, UH, PAY FOR A SERVICE FOR BRAND NEW LIGHTS THAT WE, JUST DOING THE ANALYSIS, WE DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA COST THAT MUCH DOING IT OURSELVES.
SO I THINK DOWN THE ROAD, UM, THAT IS A REALLY NICE BUSINESS MODEL THAT WE MAY ADOPT.
BUT, UM, OUR TAKE FROM, UH, THE PRESENTATION WAS, IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE NOW AND IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN REVISIT AFTER WE HAVE A FEW YEARS UNDER OUR BELT TO SEE, WELL, WHAT ARE THE TRUE COSTS? UM, BUT WE'RE VERY CONFIDENT THAT THIS WILL SAVE A LOT MORE MONEY DOING IT THIS WAY.
AND THAT PROGRAM WAS THROUGH NYPA AND THAT PROGRAM WILL STILL BE AN OPTION FOR US.
UH, SHOULD THE TOWN DECIDE THAT THAT WOULD BE A BETTER WAY TO, UH, HANDLE THINGS.
WE'LL HAVE TO GET A SENSE BECAUSE OF COURSE NOW THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT WILL BE TRACKING THE SOFTWARE.
THEY WILL BE AUTHORIZING CREWS TO GO OUT.
SO THERE'S SOME, SOME EFFORT BY TOWN EMPLOYEES THAT WOULD'VE BEEN TAKEN OUT.
BUT YEAH, IN ADDITION TO AN ANNUAL FEE, THERE WAS ACTUALLY A REQUIREMENT THAT WE HOLD THEN AN ADDITIONAL BUDGET BECAUSE
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THE ANNUAL FEE COVERED MONITORING AND I THINK WHAT THEY CALL ROUTINE MAINTENANCE, BUT ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THAT WAS THEN GOING TO BE EVEN AN ADDITIONAL COST TO THE TOWN.SO THEIR INITIAL PRICING WAS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGH.
AND, UH, WITHOUT THE EXPERIENCE OF DOING THE MAINTENANCE OURSELVES FOR A YEAR OR TWO, IT'S VERY HARD TO SEE PUTTING ASIDE THAT KIND OF BUDGET AMOUNT FOR WHAT IS NOW A BRAND NEW, UH, LED SYSTEM.
UM, SO WE'LL WE GO FORWARD AND SEE HOW, UH, HOW THE YEAR PRESENTS ITSELF.
AND ON PAGE ONE, THE STREET LIGHTING, UM, THAT'S AT 1.4 MILLION.
DO, DO YOU SEE THERE BEING ANY CHANGE IN THAT GOING DOWN THE ROAD COSTS? MM-HMM
THOSE PROBABLY REDUCE THAT, THE ENERGY COSTS.
SO WE'RE STILL GOING THROUGH, BUT NOT WE, THE UTILITY COMPANIES ARE STILL GOING THROUGH OUR BILLING AND WE'RE WORKING, UNFORTUNATELY THE TOWN IS SPLIT IN HALF WITH NATIONAL GRID AND SAG AND BOTH HAVE THEIR DIFFERENT WAYS OF UPDATING BILLING AND WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE FOR TO GET THAT BILLING UP TO DATE.
SO WE CURRENTLY ARE NOT RECEIVING A BILL FROM NATIONAL GRID ON OUR STREETLIGHTS BECAUSE THEY ARE TRYING TO RECTIFY THE SAVINGS.
WE WILL SEE IN ENERGY HAVING CONVERTED ALL THE FIXTURES TO LED.
SO ONCE THEY HAVE THAT AND THEY HAVE DETAILED REPORTS FROM OUR, UH, FROM NYPA AND THEIR SUB CONSULTANTS SAYING THE DATES EACH LIGHT WAS CONVERTED, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE EQUATED THEN ON OUR BILL TO WHEN WE ARE CHARGED UNDER THE LED SAVINGS VERSUS THE OLD FIXTURES AND THE PROCESS OF THEM CATCHING ALL THAT UP THERE, THERE ARE SEVERAL MONTHS BEHIND ON A, WITH MULTIPLE MUNICIPALITIES.
SO WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR THAT TO, TO GET CAUGHT UP.
WE HAVE SEEN SOME ADJUSTMENTS, BUT WE STILL HAVE SOME ISSUES THAT WE'RE STILL TRYING TO ADDRESS WITH THEM TO GET EVERYTHING UP TO DATE.
SO IT'S VERY HARD FOR US RIGHT NOW TO PROJECT THE ENERGY COST FOR NEXT YEAR BECAUSE WE, WE HAVE YET TO SEE THE BILLS BALANCE.
UM, ONCE WE SEE A LITTLE MORE OF THAT, WE'LL KNOW MORE WHERE WE'RE AT.
SO I THINK IT WAS DIFFICULT TO PUT THAT BUDGET LINE ITEM FOR 2024.
WE KNOW THERE IS SAVINGS, WE KNOW THAT IT'S COMING TOWARDS THE TOWN, BUT UNTIL THE UTILITY COMPANIES SHOW US A BILL AND WE GET AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT'S GOING TO MEAN, IT'S HARD FOR US TO PUT THAT NUMBER TOGETHER.
SO I EXPECT THAT NUMBER TO DROP.
THAT, AND THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WHAT WAS PUT IN FOR 2024 IS VIRTUALLY THE SAME AS 2023, AND YET I THINK WE ALL KNOW THERE'LL BE SOME LEVEL OF SAVINGS, ANY BALLPARK, ANY SENSE, 10%, 20%, 80%, BECAUSE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AT 1.4 MILLION I, AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S HARD THAT THEY HAVEN'T STARTED TO GIVE US THAT REPORTING BACK.
SO WE KNOW WHAT IT WILL BE, BUT I THINK WE KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING IN TERMS OF, ESPECIALLY AS WE'RE PLANNING FOR OUR BUDGET.
YEAH, I HAVE SOME NUMBERS AND I WOULD, I, AND I KNOW THAT WE HAD DONE AN ENERGY AUDIT AND WE HAVE SOME INFORMATION FROM NYPA ON THAT, SO I CAN CERTAINLY GET AT LEAST THEIR ROUGH ESTIMATES OF WHAT, WHAT SAVINGS IS TYPICALLY SEEN WHEN A TOWN GOES THROUGH OR MUNICIPALITY GOES THROUGH THIS TYPE OF CONVERSION.
BUT I DON'T WANNA GUESS AT IT AT THIS TIME, TIME, BUT LET ME CHECK ON IT AND LET YOU KNOW.
I CAN TELL YOU THE TOWN OF ORCHARD PARK, SIX AND A HALF YEAR BUYBACK FOR THE WHOLE CONVERTER.
SO THAT'S A RELATIVELY FAST COMPLETE, UH, PAY FOR THE PROJECT.
AND THEN SAVING MONEY AFTER SIX AND A HALF YEARS, YOUR, YOUR COSTS ARE RECOUPED AND YOUR, YOUR SAVINGS PERPETUAL.
SO ABOUT 15, ARE YOU SAYING LIKE 15% A YEAR THEN? UH, EVEN MORE PROBABLY, YEAH.
WELL, YOU KNOW, IT DEPENDS ON, YOU KNOW, GROWTH.
BUT I HAD JUST DONE THE CONVERSION IN OP BEFORE I, YOU KNOW, CAME HERE AND IT WAS SIX AND A HALF YEARS, SO IT'S RELATIVELY QUICK.
IT'S FAST TO GET BACK TWO AND A HALF MILLION BUCKS.
I, SO, BUT I THINK BETH BRINGS UP A GREAT POINT 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, THAT WAS ONE OF THE AREAS THAT I LOOKED AT AND, YOU KNOW, THINK THAT WE POSSIBLY COULD REDUCE BECAUSE OF THOSE SAVINGS.
UM, BUT THERE'S A COUPLE AREAS THAT ARE SIMILAR TO THAT THAT I THINK BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN WE FINALIZE THE BUDGET, WE HAVE TO DECIDE, YOU KNOW, WHAT TYPE OF ESTIMATE, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING HUGE NUMBERS ON SOME OF THESE AS ESTIMATES.
UM, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, THE MORTGAGE TAX REVENUE, UM, LAST YEAR THERE WAS 1.85 MILLION AND WE'RE PROJECTING TO GET REVENUE OF JUST OVER 1 MILLION.
SO THAT'S A DECREASE IN REVENUE ANTICIPATED IN THE BUDGET OF 775, UH, $76,000.
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VERY VARIABLE, UH, ITEM IS THE INTEREST INCOME.UM, WE HAVE PROJECTED IN 2000, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL USE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE SMALLER, UH, SOME OF THE, THE BIG LINE ITEMS FOR THE INTEREST INCOME.
'CAUSE WE DO ALLOCATE IT AT DIFFERENT SPOTS WITHIN THE BUDGET.
UH, BUT TO GIVE YOU JUST TWO EXAMPLES, ONE OF THE LINE ITEMS ON PAGE SEVEN AND PAGE NINE, IF YOU'RE LOOKING ALONG, OR 39 IF YOU'RE ALONG, UM, IN THE 2023 BUDGET WAS $88,000.
SO WE THOUGHT THAT OUR INVESTMENTS, THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE SITTING IN SHORT-TERM ACCOUNTS, UH, WAS GONNA GENERATE ABOUT $88,000 AND THIS YEAR WE'RE PROJECTING $450,000.
AND THAT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT CHANGE.
AND THE INTEREST ON ANOTHER LINE ITEM, WE HAD PROJECTED 12,500 IN THE 2023 AND NOW WE'RE PROJECTING 112,000.
UM, THOSE ARE VERY BIG INCREASES THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WILL VARY.
UM, AND WE HAVE TO KIND OF, BETWEEN NOW AND FINALIZING THE BUDGET, I THINK FINE TUNE THOSE.
AND I, I MET WITH PAT AND I, I'VE ASKED HIM SOME QUESTIONS AND YOU KNOW, STILL HAVE, WE'RE STILL KIND OF WORKING THROUGH GETTING SOME FINALIZATION OF SOME OF THESE NUMBERS.
BUT, UM, IT VARIES, UM, IN TOTAL LAST YEAR, YOU KNOW, OR, OR THIS, YOU KNOW, AFTER BUDGETING LOW FOR THE INTEREST LAST YEAR, THE 2023, WE'LL END UP COMING PROBABLY JUST OVER 1.5 MILLION IN INTEREST INCOME, UH, BY TAKING MOSTLY A LOT OF THAT ARPA MONEY THAT WAS, THAT IS JUST SITTING THERE IN LOW NON-INTEREST BEARING OR LOW INTEREST BEARING ACCOUNTS AND MOVING THOSE TO SAFE SECURE INVESTMENTS IN THE MEANTIME.
BUT THOSE INVESTMENTS HAVE BEEN YIELDING OVER 5%.
AND THE QUESTION NOW, AND THAT'S THE THE MATH THAT WE'RE GONNA DO IN TERMS OF A CASH FLOW, IS HOW LONG IS THAT MONEY AS WE, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME OF THESE MATURE, HOW LONG IN 2024 ARE THEY GONNA BE GENERATING THAT INTEREST? BECAUSE A LOT OF THAT MONEY WE'RE GONNA NEED TO ALLOCATE AS A YEAR GOES.
SO I THINK, UM, PAT AND RANDY DID A GREAT JOB REDUCING, UH, THE NUMBERS, UM, FROM WHAT THEY WERE IN REALITY IN THE 20 20, 23, UH, REALITY OF WHAT WE DID.
UM, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT THERE'S POTENTIAL JUST LIKE THE LED AND JUST LIKE THE MORTGAGE TAX, I MEAN, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING, YOU KNOW, OVER 1 MILLION OR $1.4 MILLION ON THE LIGHTING, YOU'RE TALKING $1.8 MILLION ON THE MORTGAGE TAX REVENUE AND YOU'RE TALKING $1.5 MILLION ON THE INTEREST INCOME.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE SHIP THOSE NUMBERS JUST 5%, 10% IN ALL THESE DIFFERENT AREAS, UM, THERE'S THAT POSSIBILITY WE CAN LOWER THE TAX, UH, FROM WHAT WE HAVE NOW.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO HAVE TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE JUST LIKE KEN SHOWED IN HIS PRESENTATION, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A $2 MILLION PROJECT REJECTED COMING IN AT POTENTIALLY 2.6, 2.9 MILLION.
UM, SO WE HAVE TO KIND OF BALANCE, I THINK, UM, ALL THESE, UM, ESTIMATES THAT WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING AND WE WANNA FOCUS ON THE HIGH, THE HIGH EXPENSE ONES BECAUSE THOSE, THAT'S WHERE WE WILL HAVE THE BEST ABILITY, YOU KNOW, TO, TO, TO MAKE SOME POTENTIALLY POSITIVE CHANGES IN TERMS OF THE TAX RATE.
I, I THINK ONE OF THE KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM, FROM WHAT YOU JUST SHARED WITH US, SEAN, WAS UM, REALITY THIS IS, THIS HAS BEEN, AND WE'VE BEEN MOVING TOWARDS A REALITY BASED BUDGET.
WHAT ARE THE REAL EXPENSES? WHAT ARE THE REAL REVENUES THAT WE CAN EXPECT TO SEE WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, PROJECTED REVENUES AS WELL AS PROJECTED EXPENDITURES? UM, WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO PLAY TOO MANY GAMES.
NOW, THERE PERHAPS COULD BE SOME WIGGLE ROOM.
UH, MY QUESTION FOR COUNCIL MEMBER FARRELL WOULD BE, IF WE WERE ABLE TO CHANGE SOME OF THESE REVENUES OR EXPENDITURES, UH, TO THE TUNE OF A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, WOULD YOUR INTENTION BE TO APPLY THAT TO THE TAX RATE TO LOWER IT OR APPLY IT TO THE ADDITIONAL $375,000 IN EXPENSES THAT YOU'RE GETTING FOR IN THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT? I THINK THERE'S A POTENTIAL TO DO BOTH.
UM, I THINK WE HAVE ANY, WE HAVEN'T TALKED EITHER ABOUT THE APPROPRIATED FUND BALANCE.
UM, THERE'S SOME OTHER AREAS WHERE I CAN POSSIBLY LOOK TO HAVE SOME SAVINGS.
UM, AND AGAIN, THAT GOES BACK TO WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THAT WOULD BE KEY PARTS OF OUR CONVERSATION GOING FORWARD.
UM, THERE ARE, UH, A VARIETY OF OTHER AREAS, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE, UM, AND THESE ARE MANY THINGS THAT WE WOULD TALK ABOUT.
UH, BUT WE HAD A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN LITIGATION.
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INCREASE IN SOME OTHER AREAS.I KNOW, PAT, YOU WERE TAKING A LOOK BECAUSE WHEN WE HAD MET THERE WERE A FEW, UM, AS, AS WE KNOW, A LOT OF THOSE LINES ARE ALREADY PRESCRIBED BECAUSE OF CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS.
BUT I KNOW THERE WERE A FEW THAT WHEN WE LOOKED THROUGH, YOU EVEN SAID, HMM, THAT SEEMS TO, MAYBE IT'S NOT QUITE RIGHT.
SO I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE.
UH, BECAUSE SOME OF THEM WERE SIGNIFICANT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE WAY THEY WERE MOVING FROM ONE, UM, LINE TO THE OTHER SINCE WE DID HAVE SOME CHANGES.
UH, YOU WERE ALSO GONNA LOOK AT LIKE THE STEEL WINDS.
UM, THERE WAS JUST A FEW DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, QUESTIONS THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET.
SO I THINK IT DOES MERIT CONVERSATION GOING FORWARD.
AND HOW DO WE, AND THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION OF HOW DO WE APPLY THE, THAT, UM, THE CHANGES THAT WE MAKE, WHETHER THE TAX RATE OR TO SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL ITEMS WE WANT TO ENTERTAIN, UM, ADDING TO THE BUDGET.
AND I THINK IT'S A COMBINATION OF BOTH.
WELL, I GUESS WHAT I WOULD ADD IS, I MEAN, THE RECENT FALL PRICES THAT I'VE SEEN ARE CLOSE TO $300,000.
SO I'M NOT SURE IF THE INTENTION IS TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT FOR A FILE THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO BOTH IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAVINGS THAT SEAN HAS PROPOSED.
YOU KNOW, IT ALMOST SEEMS IT WOULD LIKELY HAVE TO BE ONE OR THE OTHER.
UM, I THINK THAT THE, THE, THE BUDGET THAT, THAT I PUT TOGETHER WITH, WITH DEPARTMENT HEADS AND WITH OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT, IT'S TIGHT.
I MEAN, THIS BUDGET IS DIFFERENT THAN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET.
LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, THERE WAS CERTAINLY SOME, SOME WIGGLE ROOM.
UM, AND THERE WAS A LOT MORE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO MOVE SOME OF THOSE, THOSE NUMBERS AROUND.
IT WAS, IT WAS OUR FIRST BUDGET TOGETHER WITH MY FIRST BUDGET.
UM, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BRING OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS IN TO GIVE US REAL NUMBERS.
SO THERE IS NOT AS MUCH WIGGLE ROOM IN THIS BUDGET AS THERE WAS, UH, LAST YEAR.
SO I WOULD BE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT INFLATING OUR REVENUE ESTIMATES OR DECREASING THE EXPENDITURES, UH, BECAUSE THAT COULD SET US UP FOR, UM, HECK OF A LOT MORE THAN A 2.9% TAX INCREASE MOVING FORWARD.
THAT WOULD BE MY MAJOR CONCERN.
I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT YEAR FOR A LOT OF REASONS.
UM, BUT WE NEED TO BE RESPONSIBLE STEWARDS OF THE BUDGET IN GENERAL.
I LOOK AT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES WHO PRIDE THEMSELVES.
THE CITY OF BUFFALO PRIDES THEMSELVES ON A 0% TAX INCREASE.
THEY STILL HAVE WOODEN PIPES IN THE GROUND FOR THEIR WATER SYSTEMS. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THESE FUNDS ARE, ARE FULLY FUNDED.
THE BUDGET IS A PLAN AND IT'S A PLAN BASED ON THE TOWN BOARD'S VISION FOR THE COMMUNITY.
SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE, WE NEED TO DETERMINE WHAT IS OUR VISION.
ARE WE LOOKING AT SOUND BUDGET PRACTICES THAT WILL PROTECT THE TAXPAYER LONG TERM AS WELL AS GIVE THE DEPARTMENTS THE RESOURCES THEY NEED TO GET THE JOB DONE? OR DO WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE RISK IN OUR PROJECTIONS? UM, I'M NOT SAYING THAT THERE'S ONE RIGHT OR WRONG APPROACH, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
WHAT I'M HEARING HERE TONIGHT, UM, AS I MENTIONED, WE COULD, WE COULD PASS THE BUDGET TONIGHT.
WE COULD MAKE AMENDMENTS AND PASS THE BUDGET TONIGHT.
WE COULD PASS THE BUDGET AS IS.
UM, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THE BOARD WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE IF WE HAD SOME MORE TIME AND ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO MEET, PERHAPS PROPOSE AMENDMENTS, UH, AND THEN BOW ON THOSE AMENDMENTS AND THE BUDGET AT A LATER DATE.
SO BEFORE WE GET TOO CLOSE TO SEVEN O'CLOCK, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO POSE THE QUESTION OF, UH, THE BOARD'S ABILITY TO ATTEND INTOLERANCE FOR A SATURDAY 8:00 AM MEETING ON NOVEMBER 18TH.
THAT WILL GIVE US THE MOST AMOUNT OF TIME TO TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET.
THAT WOULD GIVE US TIME FOR TOWN BOARD MEMBERS TO CONNECT WITH DEPARTMENT HEADS AS WELL AS THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND MYSELF IF NECESSARY.
AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO, TO GET THE BUDGET DONE BEFORE THE NOVEMBER 20TH DEADLINE.
SO IS THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO PLANNING A WORK SESSION ON SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 18TH AT 8:00 AM HERE IN TOWN HALL? BUT BEFORE WE, IF I COULD, BEFORE WE PICK THAT DATE, IF THERE'S CONCERN THAT THERE IS A BUNCH OF AMENDMENTS AND DISCUSSION, I'D BE HESITANT THAT THAT'S THE DAY THAT WE DO IT, BECAUSE IF WE DON'T COME TO A FINAL RESOLUTION ON THE 18TH, WE ONLY HAVE A DAY AND A HALF AND PUT TOGETHER THE PAPERWORK AND THE BINDINGS AND THE REPORTS TO ACTUALLY SUBMIT IT BY THE 20TH.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS AMPLE DISCUSSION THAT NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE.
AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, WE COULD DO IT BEFORE THE 18TH.
IT'D PROBABLY BE WISE, JUST IN CASE WE COME TO LOGGER HEADS ON ONE ISSUE AND WE DON'T GET A FINAL RESOLUTION ON THAT 18TH WE'D BE IN, WE'D BE HARD PRESSED 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SUBMIT SOMETHING ON THE 20TH, WHETHER EVERYBODY'S IN AGREEMENT OR PEOPLE AREN'T IN AGREEMENT.
BUT I WOULD JUST HESITATE TO TRY AND CUT THAT FINAL LINE WITH THOSE TWO DAYS FROM THE 18TH TO,
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I MEAN, I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF THE ITEMS THAT I HAVE.I MEAN, I'VE, I'VE TALKED TO YOU, UM, I'VE COMMUNICATED WITH, WITH TARA MY CONCERNS ON THE, UM, STATE RETIREMENT NUMBERS.
I MEAN, THE STATE RETIREMENT NUMBERS WERE, YOU KNOW, JUST TO CITE TWO OF 'EM, YOU KNOW, THE ONE LINE ITEM FOR THE PENSION IS AN INCREASE OF $380,000.
UM, THE OTHER LINE ITEM FOR A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT IS $80,000.
UM, SO A LOT MY QUESTIONS AND MY CONCERNS HAVE, HAVE LARGELY BEEN ADDRESSED.
UM, I THINK THAT I'LL BE PREPARED AND I CAN, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THE, UH, VARIOUS MEMBERS ON WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE.
BUT FROM MY, MY ASPECT, I'M PRETTY CLOSE TO, YOU KNOW, JUST WAITING ON SOME FINAL INFORMATION THAT I THINK IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS I'LL HAVE MM-HMM
UM, I, I THINK GOING INTO THAT 18, ALL MY QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS WILL THE MET SOME OF THEM.
I MIGHT WANNA JUST MAKE SURE THE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S AGREEMENT WITHIN THE BOARD, UM, UH, WITH INDIVIDUAL, UH, PEOPLE.
BUT FOR THE MOST PART, I THINK, UM, ON, ON MY END FROM MY DUE DILIGENCE, I THINK WE'RE THERE.
YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, THE CPI 2021 WAS SEVEN POINT OVER 7%.
THE INFLATION 7%, UM, IT'S NOW 3.2% THAT THEY JUST CAME OUT.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT 0% LAST YEAR AND WE'RE LOOKING AT UNDER 3% THIS YEAR, UM, IN LIGHT OF INFLATION BEING SEVEN AND OVER 3%.
SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS WE'D LIKE TO GET TO ZERO, UM, TWO YEARS IN A ROW, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S REALISTIC IN AN INFLATION IN INFLATIONARY ENVIRONMENT WHERE WE KNOW OUR EMPLOYEE BENEFITS ARE GOING UP.
WE KNOW AND WE SEE OUR RETIREMENT, UH, COSTS GOING UP SIGNIFICANTLY.
UM, WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA GET LESS INTEREST NEXT YEAR ON OUR INVESTMENTS BECAUSE WE'RE USING THAT MONEY.
WE KNOW BECAUSE OF THE REAL ESTATE MARKET, WE'RE GETTING SIGNIFICANTLY LESS INTEREST ON OUR MORTGAGE TAX, UM, TO THE TUNE OF $776,000.
UH, AND THAT'S REPUTABLE, UH, PROJECTIONS FROM OUR ACCOUNTING FIRMS AND ALL THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.
WE KNOW WE WANNA INCREASE OUR FIRE PROTECTION TO A $163,000, $163,324.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WANTS TO REDUCE THAT.
UM, PAVING IS ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN A, A BIG CONCERN.
UH, WE'RE WE WANNA INCREASE THAT 200,000 IN THIS BUDGET.
UM, AGAIN, I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MORE WE WANNA TRIM AND, AND CUT WHEN WE'RE ALREADY BACK TO BACK YEARS 0% UNDER 3% WITH INFLATION AND ALL THESE, OUR HEALTHCARE, OUR HEALTH INSURANCE WENT UP.
SO, UM, FROM MY UH, VANTAGE POINT, I THINK WE'RE PRETTY CLO I, I'M, I FEEL PRETTY CLOSE INTO WHAT QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS I HAVE LEFT THAT I THINK I'LL HAVE THOSE ANSWERED AGAIN WITHIN THE NEXT FEW WEEK OR THE NEXT FEW DAYS.
SO TO ME, I THINK I CAN, I, I COULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH, I'D HAVE VERY LITTLE, UM, UH, UH, CERTAINLY WE WANT DIALOGUE ON THE 18TH, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT IT WOULD, I THINK I'M PRETTY CLOSE TO FEEL COMFORTABLE.
SEAN, SEAN AND I HAVE HAD A LOT OF DIALOGUE.
UM, BUT I DO WANT A BOARD OPPORTUNITY FOR OTHER BOARD MEMBERS TO REACH OUT ABOUT THINGS THAT THEY'RE SPECIFICALLY CONCERNED WITH.
UM, AND, AND THE 18TH REPORT, I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT IT'S UP TO US TO DO OUR HOMEWORK SO THAT WE'RE NOT PUTTING IT IN A POSITION ON THE 18TH.
WE SHOULD BE CLOSE TO, TO CONSENSUS, BUT THAT'S GONNA REQUIRE, UM, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATION ONE-ON-ONE BETWEEN ALL OF US.
AND, AND I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR MY THOUGHT, BUT I HAVE TALKED TO ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS, SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD CONVERSATION ON THE BUDGET, DO WE, WE NEED SOME MORE FOR SURE.
AND, AND THEN ANOTHER MEETING I THINK WOULD BE GREAT.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT, UH, THE BUDGET INDIVIDUALLY WITH, WITH DEPARTMENT HEADS, WITH THE FINANCE, AT LEAST MYSELF, WITH THE PERSONNEL AS WELL, AS WELL AS ALL FI ALL, ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
SO I THINK WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS, BUT UM, YOU KNOW, IT, WE, WE WANNA TAKE OUR TIME, WE WANNA DO IT RIGHT AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE, UM, THAT WE'RE NOT, UM, NEGLECTING THE FUTURE, UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME EXPENSES COMING UP THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO BE PREPARED FOR.
AND, UH, AND I THINK THIS, OH, BECAUSE THAT REMINDS ME 'CAUSE THE FUND BALANCE.
I THINK THAT BROUGHT A GREAT POINT BECAUSE I AGREE, UH, UH, LOOKING AT THE FUND BALANCES, WE ARE AT AN ALL TIME HIGH, UH, AND OUR FUND BALANCES, WHICH
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IS INTENTIONAL, WE SET OUT TO ACCOMPLISH THAT FOUR YEARS AGO.AND GRADUALLY WE'VE WORKED OUR WAY TO GET TO, UH, AN ALL TIME HIGH.
BUT EVEN AT THE, EVEN WHERE WE ARE NOW, THAT RANGE, UM, OF 14 TO, UH, I BELIEVE IT'S 14 TO 18%, WE'RE UH, 14.65%.
SO WE'RE STILL A LITTLE BIT UNDER THE MIDPOINT OF WHAT THE NEW YORK STATE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE HAS TOLD US IS THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, COULD WE HAVE SOME WIGGLE ROOM MAYBE, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE POSITION OURSELVES TO RANDY'S POINT THAT IN THE FUTURE WHEN THOSE UNEXPECTED EXPENSES COME UP, INSTEAD OF GOING FROM 0%, 2%, 10%, YOU KNOW, THAT WILL ALLOW US TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN, SEE WHAT THE INFLATION NUMBER IS AND TRY TO AT LEAST KEEP PACE, YOU KNOW, WITH INFLATION.
UH, AND I WOULD, UH, I WOULD ECHO MY COLLEAGUES ON THE BOARD.
THERE'S, THERE'S ONE AMENDMENT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE TO THIS, THIS BUDGET.
UM, AND IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT, UH, OFFLINE, BUT ASIDE FROM THAT ONE AMENDMENT, UM, I THINK THIS IS A SOUND BUDGET AND, AND I THINK THAT WE COULD, UH, DEFINITELY MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE EVERYTHING IN ORDER FOR THE 18TH, UH, FOR ADOPTION BECAUSE I THINK WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT SHIFTS EVEN IN PERSONNEL AND, AND TO HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITY TO EVEN SPEAK TO THOSE POINTS.
WE'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SEVERAL ADDITIONS.
WE HAVE, UH, POSITIONS THAT ARE BEING ELIMINATED AND I THINK IT'S, IT WARRANTS FURTHER CONVERSATION.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON THE 18TH AT 8:00 AM BY AND CAN THAT BE BY ZOOM? YEAH, YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN MEET, YEAH, ZOOM IN PERSON.
WE, WE HAVE THAT CAPABILITY AND THE, UH, THE AUTHORIZING LEGISLATION TO DO SO.
UH, AND IF THERE WAS, IS THERE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MEMBERS JUST IN CASE IT GOT TO THAT POINT, IS THERE, OR COULD WE ALL BE ZOOMED IF WE NEEDED TO AT THIS POINT, RIGHT? YEAH, I BELIEVE SO.
AND THEN PAT, CAN I JUST ASK ONE MORE QUESTION? I KNOW AS WE APPROACH THE END OF THE YEAR, UM, DO YOU HAVE A SENSE YET OF WHERE WE STAND WITH THE 23 BUDGET? UM, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT ROLLOVER UNENCUMBERED ITEMS AND, AND HOW THAT AFFECTS OUR BUDGET GOING FORWARD.
CAN YOU TALK TO THAT POINT, ELODIA, WHERE WE STAND NOW? IT LOOKS LIKE THERE MIGHT BE A SURPLUS AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
THE DIFFICULTY IS, AGAIN, WITH THE, THE AMOUNTS THAT ARE COMING THAT WE JUST DON'T HAVE A GOOD FIRM GRASP ON WHAT THE WOULD BE SALES TAX.
MORTGAGE TAX BEING THE BIG ONE, MORTGAGE TAX BUILT IN THE LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, WE WOULD'VE EXPECTED ABOUT A 650 TO A MILLION DOLLARS COMING IN AT THE END OF THE YEAR, THAT AMOUNT MIGHT BE AS LOW AS 200,000.
SO IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO PUT A STAKE IN THE GROUND AND SAY, YES, WE'RE REALLY GOOD BASED ON THE UNCERTAINTY OF THE NUMBERS, ESPECIALLY IN THE REVENUE SIDE COMING IN FROM AN EXPENSE STANDPOINT, WE'RE ON PACE WITH WHERE WE NEED TO BE FOR THE BUDGET, WE'RE ACTUALLY UNDER BUDGET, BUT IF THOSE REVENUE PROJECTIONS COME IN FAR LESS THAN WHAT WAS BUDGETED, THAT COULD BE AN ISSUE.
WHERE WE'RE FEELING OKAY WITH THAT SCENARIO IS, TO SEAN'S POINT, THE INVESTMENT INCOME, HAVING THAT EXTRA 1.2 MILLION IN REVENUE THAT WASN'T IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET SHOULD HOPEFULLY PLUG THAT HOLE THAT WE'RE GONNA SEE WITH THE MORTGAGE TAX.
BUT UNTIL WE TRULY KNOW WHAT THAT SHORTFALL THAT THE MORTGAGE TAX, THAT IT'S REALLY PROBLEMATIC TO JUST SAY, YEAH, WE'LL WE'LL DEFINITELY HAVE A SURPLUS.
BUT AS WE SIT HERE TODAY, IT DOES LOOK LIKE WE'LL HAVE A SURPLUS AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
CAN YOU GIVE US A SENSE OF WHAT OR A RANGE EVEN? UH, IT'S TOO EARLY.
BY THE, I'D SAY BY THE END OF NOVEMBER WE SHOULD HAVE A REALLY GOOD IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, ONLY BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE 11 TWELVES OF THE EXPENSES IN MM-HMM
SO KNOWING THAT SALES TAX WILL COME IN AT ROUGHLY ANOTHER 1.5 TO 2 MILLION MORTGAGE TAX IS THE WILD CARD, BUT WE'LL STILL HAVE THAT INTEREST TO, TO BACK LOAD THAT MORTGAGE TAX AT THAT POINT, WE'D HAVE A REALLY GOOD IDEA OF WHERE WE STAND AND THAT'S WHEN WE CAN START TO TALK ABOUT ENCUMBRANCES AND USING WHATEVER SURPLUS WE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE TO DO THINGS LIKE PUT INTO A SURPLUS OR PUT INTO A RESERVE TO TAKE CARE OF THINGS DOWN THE ROAD, LIKE AN EXTRA PLOW OVER SOME OF THESE OTHER UNFORESEEN PROJECTS THAT JUST POP UP THAT YOU CAN'T REALLY PLAN FOR.
AT THIS POINT I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE WORK SESSION AND TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK BEFORE WE COME BACK FOR THE REGULAR TOWN OF WORK.
ALL IN FAVOR? PLEASE SIGN FAVOR.
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YES.UM, I'M GONNA ACTUALLY START WITH LATER NUMBER ONE ON THE AGENDA FOR A CHANGE THIS MEETING, WHICH IS THE ROLL CALL SUPERVISOR, H PRESENT, COUNCIL MEMBER HOGUE PRESENT, COUNCIL MEMBER COUNTY PRESENT.
COUNCIL MEMBER BERG ARE THE COUNCIL MEMBER, BEAR LAUREN PRESENT.
ITEM NUMBER TWO ON THE DOCKET IS A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, RECOGNIZE AND WELCOME OUR VISITORS FROM AMBER BOY SCOUT TROOP EIGHT 80.
IF YOU COULD PLEASE RISE AND LEAD US IN.
OKAY FOLKS, WE HAVE A FULL AGENDA THIS EVENING.
UM, I'M GOING TO JUST SHARE WITH YOU WHAT THE GAME PLAN IS TONIGHT.
I KNOW WE HAVE SOME, UH, STUDENTS HERE AS WELL.
I'M SURE YOU HAVE SOME PAPERS TO SIGN.
WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THAT DONE.
AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE MEETING MEETING, WE HAVE, UH, 24 ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING.
WE WILL GET THROUGH THE AGENDA FOR THE TOWN BOARD MEETING.
ONCE WE GET THROUGH THE AGENDA TO THE TOWN BOARD MEETING, WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR BUSINESS FROM THE FLOOR, ALSO KNOWN AS PUBLIC EXPRESSION DURING PUBLIC EXPRESSION.
UH, AND YOU CAN SIGN UP RIGHT HERE AT THE FRONT TABLE, UH, DURING PUBLIC EXPRESSION.
YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE TOWN BOARD.
WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS TO THE TOWN BOARD.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO DELIVER YOUR COMMENTS TO THE TOWN BOARD THAT THREE AT THE THREE MINUTE MARK, I WILL INFORM YOU THAT IT IS THREE MINUTES AND WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU EXTEND THE COURTESY TO THE BOARD AS WELL AS THE OTHER PEOPLE WAITING TO SPEAK.
I'LL GIVE ANOTHER REMINDER AT THE FIVE MINUTE MARK AND WE USUALLY DON'T HAVE TO REMIND FOLKS MUCH MORE AFTER THAT.
YOUR TIME IS NON-TRANSFERRABLE.
SO IF YOU GET TO THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE MINUTE MARK AND SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO HEAR YOU AND SAY, WELL, THEY CAN HAVE MY TIME, YOU CANNOT TRANSFER YOUR TIME.
ONCE WE GO THROUGH BUSINESS FROM THE FLOOR, WE'LL HAVE REPORTS FROM DEPARTMENT HEADS.
THERE'S SEVERAL DEPARTMENT HEADS HERE.
THEY'LL GIVE A BRIEF REPORT AND THEN IT'LL BE TIME FOR REPORTS FROM THE TOWN BOARD.
THAT IS THE TIME DURING THE MEETING THAT THE TOWN BOARD MEMBER CAN AND WILL RESPOND TO YOUR COMMENTS FROM PUBLIC EXPRESSION.
THE TOWN BOARD IS AVAILABLE ANY DAY OF THE WEEK.
OUR INFORMATION IS UP ON OUR TOWN WEBSITE.
UM, AND WE ARE ABLE TO MEET WITH RESIDENTS OR GROUPS ONE-ON-ONE OR IN SMALL GROUPS TO DISCUSS ISSUES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO YOU.
SO PUBLIC EXPRESSION REPORTS FROM THE BOARD IS NOT GONNA BE A BACK AND FORTH CONVERSATION, IT'S NOT A DEBATE.
IT GIVES THE PUBLIC THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE YOUR CONCERNS AND THE BOARD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THEM.
AND WE FULLY SUSPECT AND UNDERSTAND THAT FURTHER FOLLOW UP IS NEEDED AND REQUIRED ON MANY ISSUES.
UM, SO THAT WILL BRING US RIGHT TO ITEM NUMBER THREE ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING.
BE RESOLVED THAT THE HAMBURG TOM
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BOARD DOES APPROVE, HEREBY APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING AS FOLLOWS, REGULAR TOM BOARD MEETING OCTOBER 23RD, 2023.SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER FERRELL REELL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
WHEREAS THE GOVERNMENT OF HAMBURG, NEW YORK CELEBRATES OUR LOCAL SMALL BUSINESSES AND THE CONTRIBUTIONS THEY MAKE TO OUR LOCAL ECONOMY AND COMMUNITY.
AND WHEREAS ACCORDING TO US SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION, THERE ARE 33 MILLION SMALL BUSINESSES IN THE UNITED STATES.
SMALL BUSINESSES REPRESENT 99.7% OF FIRMS WITH PAID EMPLOYEES.
SMALL BUSINESSES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR 62.7% OF NET NEW JOBS CREATED SINCE 1995.
AND SMALL BUSINESSES EMPLOY 46.4% OF THE EMPLOYEES IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR IN THE UNITED STATES.
AND WHEREAS 68 CENTS OF EVERY DOLLAR SPENT AT A SMALL BUSINESS IN THE UNITED STATES STAYS IN THE LOCAL COMMUNITY.
AND EVERY DOLLAR SPENT AT SMALL BUSINESSES CREATES AN ADDITIONAL 48 CENTS IN LOCAL BUSINESS ACTIVITY AS A RESULT OF EMPLOYEES AND LOCAL BUSINESSES PURCHASING LOCAL GOODS AND SERVICES.
AND WHEREAS 72% OF CONSUMERS REPORTED THAT SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY 2022 MADE THEM WANT TO SHOP AND DINE AT SMALL, INDEPENDENTLY OWNED RETAILERS AND RESTAURANTS ALL YEAR LONG.
AND WHEREAS HAMBURG, NEW YORK SUPPORTS OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT CREATE JOBS, BOOST OUR LOCAL ECONOMY AND PRESERVE OUR COMMUNITIES.
AND WHEREAS ADVOCACY GROUPS AS WELL AS PUBLIC AND PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY HAVE ENDORSED A SATURDAY AFTER THANKSGIVING AS SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY.
NOW THEREFORE BE A RESULT, THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM NOVEMBER 25TH, 2023 AS SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD URGES THE RESIDENT OF OUR COMMUNITY AND COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESSES AND MERCHANTS ON SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY AND TO SHOP SMALL THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER ERFORD.
ALL IN FAVOR IF DO YOU SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
WHEREAS THE YOUTH RECREATION AND SENIOR SERVICES DEPARTMENT HAS REQUESTED AUTHORIZATION FOR JILLIAN PORTMAN KING, DIRECTOR OF RECREATION AND NICOLE ROBERTO, SENIOR RECREATION SUPERVISOR TO ATTEND THE GENESEE VALLEY RECREATION AND PARK SOCIETY ANNUAL CONFERENCE ON NOVEMBER 17TH, 2023 IN GR, GREECE, NEW YORK.
AND WHEREAS THE COST FOR REGISTRATION IS $50 PER INDIVIDUAL, TOTAL COST OF A HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR BOTH AND THE USE OF A TOWN VEHICLE IS REQUESTED FOR TRANSPORTATION.
AND WHEREAS FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN A 7 0 2 4 9 2 SEVENS TRAINING NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED THAT THE HAMMER TOWN BOARD DOES HEREBY APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR A HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR THE COST OF CONFERENCE FOR JILLIAN GORMAN KING AND NICOLE ROBERTO TO ATTEND AND THE USE OF A TOWN VEHICLE FOR TRANSPORTATION.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGN BY SAYING AYE.
RESULT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVE DETERMINATION OF THE FOLLOWING EMPLOYEES IN THE BUILDING AND GROUNDS DEPARTMENT AS LISTED.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HO IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
WHEREAS BUCKINGHAM LANE AND NOTTINGHAM TERRACE CONVERGE AND TERMINATE AT WILLOW RUN PLAYGROUND.
AND WHEREAS THERE IS NO SIGNAGE INDICATING THE UPCOMING TURN AT THE END OF EACH ROAD, NOR ARE THERE STOP SIGNS AT THE END OF EITHER OR PLAYGROUND SIGNAGE.
AND WHEREAS THE TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD HAS CONSIDERED THE VARIOUS NEEDS IN THE AREA AND RECOMMENDS NUMBER ONE, STOP SIGNS ON BUCKINGHAM LANE AND NOTTINGHAM TERRACE AT THEIR JUNCTURE.
AND NUMBER TWO, PLAYGROUND SIGN AT THE ENTRANCE TO WILLOW RUN PLAYGROUND.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZED PLACEMENT OF SAID SIGNS AS INDICATED AND BE A FURTHER RESULT OF TOWN OF HAMBURG TRAFFIC SAFETY COORDINATOR SHALL GENERATE THE REQUIRED WORK ORDER FOR THIS PROJECT TO BE COMPLETED.
FUNDS AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT DB 0.5 0.0205 SIGNS AND SIGNALS SO MOVED.
SECOND MOTION COUNCIL MEMBER FER LAUREN SECOND MAY.
COUNCIL COUNCILMAN ALL IN FAVOR AND SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE A AYE.
WHEREAS CONNOR'S WAY AND HARMONY WAY ARE LOCATED IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS NEAR HIGHMARK STADIUM AND WHEREAS ROADSIDE PARKING AND TRAFFIC BACKUP AND CONGESTION ON THESE ROADS ARE POTENTIAL SAFETY ISSUE FOR RESIDENTS AND THEIR CHILDREN DURING BUFFALO BILL'S, HOME GAMES AND OTHER STADIUM EVENTS.
AND WHEREAS REVIEW OF THIS PROBLEM IDENTIFIES THAT PARKING ALONG THESE RESIDENTIAL STREETS COULD POTENTIALLY CREATE DIFFICULTY FOR EMERGENCY RESCUE VEHICLES TO REACH A RESIDENTS
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IN THE COMMUNITY AND IT WOULD BE VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR FIRE EQUIPMENT TO DO SO.AND WHEREAS THE HAMBURG TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD HAS REVIEWED THE SITUATION AND RECOMMENDS THE INSTALLATION OF NO PARKING P ONE DASH 16 MODIFIED SIGNS ON BOTH CONNOR'S WAY AND HARMONY WAY AT EACH END OF THE STREET AND ON THE FIRE HYDRANT SIDE OF EACH STREET WITH THE SIGNS TO READ NO PARKING THIS SITE STADIUM EVENT DAYS.
AND WHEREAS THE HAMBURG TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD ALSO RECOMMENDS INSTALLATION OF THE APPROPRIATE NO PARKING SIGN AT THE CONNORS WAY CUL-DE-SAC IN THE VICINITY OF AN EXISTING FIRE HYDRANT.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES INSTALLATION OF SAID SIGNS AS DESCRIBED AND BE FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN OF HAMBURG TRAFFIC SAFETY COORDINATOR SHALL GENERATE THE REQUIRED WORK ORDER FOR THE PROJECT TO BE COMPLETED.
FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT DB 0.511 0.0205 SIGNS AND SIGNALS SO MOVED.
SECOND MOTION BY MEMBER FER LOREN.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CONLEY.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG HAS BEEN WORKING ON IMPROVING THE INTERSECTION OF CLARK STREET AND MCKINLEY PARKWAY TO PROMOTE SAFETY FOR VEHICLE AND PEDESTRIAN AND TRAFFIC AND WHEREAS ROUNDABOUT TRAFFIC INTERSECTION HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE THE PREFERRED SOLUTION TO CORRECT THE CURRENT INTERSECTION CONFIGURATION.
AND IN ORDER FOR THE PROPOSED ROUNDABOUT GRANT APPLICATION TO BE FILED, AN UPDATED TRAFFIC STUDY IS REQUIRED AND THE LICENSED NEW YORK STATE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER REVIEW OF THE APPLICATION NEEDS TO BE PERFORMED, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THE HAMMER TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZED AS A TOWN SUPERVISOR TO SIGN THE PROPOSAL FROM D DONATO ASSOCIATES TO PROVIDE ENGINEERING SERVICES AND GRANT APPLICATION ASSISTANCE NOT TO EXCEED THE AMOUNT OF $8,500 PER THE ATTACHED PROPOSED LETTER.
FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN H 0 6 3 6 3 4 4 0 CAPITAL.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CONLEY, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN C*M.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY AYE.
OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS CARRIED BE RESOLVED.
THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG APPOINT KIM MERCER TO THE POSITION OF TOWN ASSESSOR IN AN ANNUAL SALARY OF $90,000 COMMENCING NOVEMBER 7TH, 2023 FUNDS AVAILABLE IN A POINT 1350 5.0446 SO MOVED.
SECOND MOTION BY SUPERVISOR HULK AND SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CONLEY.
UM, THE QUESTION, UM, AS FAR AS I KNOW, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT, UM, SITUATION AND POSITION, UH, IMPORTANT SITUATION THAT'S GOING ON IN THAT OFFICE.
UH, RIGHT NOW IT, IT CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY, UM, HER QUALIFICATIONS AS FAR AS OUR TIMELINE AND I KNOW THERE'S, UH, QUALIFICATIONS WITH THE STATE, ARE WE ALIGNED FOR THAT OR WHAT, HOW MUCH TIME DO WE HAVE IN TERMS OF, OF THE QUALIFICATIONS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR THAT POSITION? ACCORDING TO JEFF FROM THE NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF TAXATION AND FINANCE, IN A LETTER DATED NOVEMBER 3RD, 2023, MR. GLOBE STATED I HAVE REVIEWED THE APPLICATION FOR QUALIFICATIONS REVIEW AS HE REQUESTED FOR THE POSITION OF SOLE APPOINTED ASSESSOR, TIM MERCER MEETS THE MINIMUM QUALIFICATION STANDARDS FOR SOLE APPOINTED ASSESSOR AS PRESCRIBED IN REAL PROPERTY TAX LAW AND 20 N-Y-C-R-R-R 8 1 8 8.
I WOULD, UH, JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT THE TOWN IS IS VERY FORTUNATE IN THAT WE HAD A SURPRISE RESIGNATION BY OUR PART-TIME ASSESSOR.
THIS BOARD FEELS IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A FULL-TIME ASSESSOR, UH, BECAUSE OF THE VERY DETAILED NATURE OF THE POSITION AND THE WORK INVOLVED IN THAT DEPARTMENT WHEN IT COMES TO ASSESS VALUATION OF OUR HOMES AND BUILDINGS THROUGHOUT THE TOWN.
WE DO NOT WANNA TAKE ANY CHANCES WITH THOSE NUMBERS.
OUR BUDGET IS BUILT OFF OF THEM.
I KNEW THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR AN ASSESSOR EVENTUALLY AND HONESTLY I WAS VERY WORRIED BECAUSE THE LABOR MARKET FOR ASSESSORS IS EXTREMELY LIMITED.
I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE, UH, MS. MERCER'S NOT ONLY QUALIFICATIONS BUT THE FACT THAT SHE WORKED FOR THE TOWN OF HAMBURG FOR 20 YEARS DECIDED TO RETIRE AND WHEN WE WERE IN NEED OF SOME EXTRA HEALTH, AGREED TO COME BACK PART-TIME NOT KNOWING THAT WE WOULD'VE VACANCY IN THE ASSESSOR'S POSITION.
LIFE CAN THROW YOU CURVE BALLS AND NEW AND EXCITING OPPORTUNITIES AT ANY MOMENT AND THAT CERTAINLY HAS BEEN THE CASE FOR MS. MERCER.
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SHE HAS BEEN A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THIS TRANSITION, HAS BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY PROCESSES ALREADY IN HER SHORT TIME IN HELPING US OUT THAT NEED TO BE ADJUSTED.I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH MS. MERCER IN THIS POSITION.
SHE NOT ONLY HAS THE RESPECT AND ADMIRATION OF THIS BOARD, BUT SHE ALSO HAS THE RESPECT AND ADMIRATION OF PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THIS FIELD, INCLUDING PEOPLE THAT HAVE WORKED FOR THE TOWN OF HAMBURG IN THE PAST AND OTHER PROFESSIONALS IN OTHER MUNICIPAL OFFICES THROUGHOUT ERIE COUNTY.
I THINK THE PUBLIC CAN EXPECT TO SEE SOME CHANGES IN THE ASSESSOR'S DEPARTMENT.
I THINK WHAT YOU WILL FIND UNDER MS. MERCER'S LEADERSHIP IS A WELCOMING, ASSESSING DEPARTMENT FOCUSED ON CUSTOMER SERVICE AND WHEN IT COMES TO TOWN GOVERNMENT, IT IS THE RESIDENTS AND THE TAXPAYERS WHO ARE THE CUSTOMERS.
SO, UM, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS APPOINTMENT AND AT THIS TIME I WILL CALL FOR A VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
MS. MERCER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME TO THE FRONT FOR A PICTURE? THANK YOU.
TAKE ONE THIS, MOVE THIS TO ITEM NUMBER 11 ON OUR AGENDA.
BE RESOLVED THAT THE HENRY TOWN BOARD IS HEREBY APPROVED THE ATTACHED WORKDAY REPORTING FOR ELECTED AND APPOINTED OFFICIALS.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS CARRIED BE RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVE DETERMINATION.
HIRING OF PERSONNEL FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF BUT RECREATION AND SENIOR SERVICES AS PER THE ATTACHED PAI SECOND MOTION MY COUNCIL MEMBER MCC COUNTY SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER FARRELL LOREN.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE A.
OPPOSED PENSIONS GARY RESOLVED THE HENRY TOWN BOARD IS HEREBY APPROVE THE REQUEST FROM BIGTREE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY DUE ADD TO THEIR MEMBERSHIP INDIVIDUAL AS FOLLOWS, ROBERT M GOLLICK.
SO MOVED A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HOCO IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE OPPOSE ABSTENTIONS CARRIED.
WHEREAS THE HAMRICK TOWN BOARD WITH THE INPUTTING PARTICIPATION, THE HANDBOOK PLANNING BOARD AND THE CITIZENS OF THE TOWN HAS COMPLETED A NEW TOWN OF HAMBURG COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 2 72 DASH A OF NEW YORK STATE TOWN LAW AND WHEREAS TO ALIGN ON THE TOWN'S ZONING WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE TOWN IS PROPOSING TO ENACT A LOCAL LAW TO IMPLEMENT CERTAIN ZONING CHANGES AND WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG PROPOSES TO REONE PARCELS ON THE WEST SIDE OF CAMP ROAD NEAR THE INTERSECTION WITH SOULS ROAD WITH THE FOLLOWING SBL NUMBERS FROM M TWO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO C TWO GENERAL COMMERCIAL 1 70 0 0 DASH THREE DASH 4 1 70 0 DASH THREE DASH 6 31 1 70 0.00 DASH THREE DASH 32 1 70 0 0 DASH THREE DASH SIX TWO AND 1 70 0 0 DASH THREE DASH 30.
AND WHEREAS PURSUANT TO PART 6 1 7 OF THE IMPLEMENTING REGULATIONS, RETURNING TO ARTICLE A TO STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION LAW, THE HENDRICK TOWN BOARD HAS ESTABLISHED ITSELF A SECRET LAID AGENCY AND CONDUCTED A COORDINATED ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW FOR THIS TYPE ONE ACTION.
AND WHEREAS THE TOWN BOARD HAS COMPLETED THE FEAF PARTS ONE, TWO, AND THREE AND SOLICIT INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC AND FROM OTHER INVOLVED AND INTERESTED AGENCIES AND HAS TAKEN A HARD LOOK AT THE SOCIAL, ECONOMIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS OF THE ADOPTION OF THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGES AND WHEREAS THE FINDINGS OF THIS REVIEW INDICATE THAT THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGES WILL NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE NATURAL RESOURCES OF THE STATE AND OR THE HEALTH SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE PUBLIC AND WILL HELP MANAGE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT IN THE TOWN IN A MANNER THAT WILL HAVE POTENTIALLY BENEFICIAL IMPACTS ON AESTHETICS, RECREATION,
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ECONOMICS, TRANSPORTATION AND COMMUNITY CHARACTER.NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD IS SECRET LEAD AGENCY FOR THIS ACTION HAS DETERMINED THAT THE OPTION OF THIS ZONING CHANGE WILL NOT RESULT IN ANY SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE ENVIRONMENT.
AND A NEGATIVE DECLARATION IS HEREBY ISSUE BASED ON THE REASON SET FORTH IN THE FULL ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM AND BE FINALLY RESOLVED THAT DOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES DOWN SUPERVISOR TO SIGN THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM WHICH WILL ACT AS A SEEKER NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND AUTHORIZES THAT THE APPROPRIATE NOTICES AND FILINGS BE MADE.
SECOND COUNCILMAN ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGN AYE.
OPPOSED EXTENSIONS CARRIED WHEREAS A TON OF HAMBURG PROPOSES TO REZO PARCELS ON THE WEST SIDE OF CAMP ROAD NEAR THE INTERSECTION WITH SOLES ROAD WITH THE FOLLOWING SBL NUMBERS FROM M TWO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, THE C TWO GENERAL COMMERCIAL ONE 70 DASH THREE DASH 4 1 1 70 0.0 DASH THREE DASH 6 3 1 73 3 2 1 73 6 2 AND 1 73 30 AND WE AS A PROPOSED ZONING MAP AMENDMENT IS PROPOSED IN THE FORM OF LOCAL LAW PURSUANT TO THE AUTHORITY GRANTED TO THE TOWN OF HAMBURG TOWN BOARD AND THE TOWN BY ARTICLE TWO AND THREE OF THE NEW YORK STATE MUNICIPAL HOME RULE LAW BY ARTICLE TWO OF THE NEW YORK STATE STATUTE OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND THE TOWN BOARD IS AUTHORIZED AND EMPOWERED BY CHAPTER TWO 80, ARTICLE X-L-D-I-I-I OF THE CODE IN ARTICLE 16 OF THE NEW YORK TOWN LAW TO AMEND THE ZONING MAP OF THE TOWN TO MEET THE GROWING AND CHANGING NEEDS OF THE TOWN.
AND WHEREAS EVERYTOWN BOARD REFERRED THESE PROPOSED RE ZONINGS THAT HAVE BEEN PLANNING BOARD FOR THEIR REVIEW COMMENT TO RECOMMENDATIONS OF PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS REZONING AND WHEREAS HEMBRY TOWN BOARD HELD THE REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS PROPOSED REZONING ON JULY 17TH, 2023.
AND WHEREAS HEMBRY TOWN BOARD HAS REVIEWED THE PROPOSED ACTION, THE COMMENTS RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC AGENCIES AND TOWN DEPARTMENTS, COMMITTEES AND TOWN STAFF AND WHEREAS EVERYTOWN BOARD HAS DETERMINED THAT THE PROPOSED REZONING WILL NOT RESULT IN ANY SIGNIFICANT NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT AND HAS ISSUED A NEGATIVE DECLARATION.
AND WHEREAS PURSUANT TO MUNICIPAL HOME RULE LAW, THE TOWN BOARD IS PROPOSING TO ENACT A LOCAL LAW WHICH PROPOSES TO AMEND THE TOWN'S ZONING MAP AS FOLLOWS, BE IT ENACT OF THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, NEW YORK, THAT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD OF MEN'S THE ZONING MAP AS FOLLOWS, REZONE THE PARCELS WITH THE FOLLOWING SBL NUMBERS 1 73 4 1 1 70 DASH ZERO DASH THREE DASH 6 31 73 32 1 73 6 AND ONE 70 DASH 30 CURRENTLY ZONED IN TWO TO C TWO NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED AT THE ZONING CODE OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG.
BE AMENDED AS FOLLOWS, TO AMEND LOCAL LAW NUMBER 10 OF THE YEAR, 1986 OF THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG CHAPTER TWO 80 IN FEDERAL ZONING TO PROVIDE FOR A CHANGE IN THE BOUNDARY OF THE ZONING MAP WHEREBY THE ZONING HAS CHANGED FROM M TWO LIKE INDUSTRIAL TO C TWO GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT FOR PROPERTIES INDICATED ABOVE.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HULK.
ALL A FAVOR BE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE A.
WE RESOLVE THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG ADOPT A SPECIAL TOWN CHARGES AS INDICATING THE ATTACHED LETTER OF AUTHORIZATION AS PART OF THE 2024 TOWN OF HAMBURG BUDGET.
SO MOVED YOU SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CONLEY.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
OPPOSED? AB EXTENSIONS CARRIED WHEREAS THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD WITH THE INPUT AND PARTICIPATION IN THE HAMBURG PLANNING BOARD AND THE CITIZENS OF THE TOWN HAS COMPLETED A NEW TOWN OF BERG COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 2 7 2 DASH A OF NEW YORK STATE TOWN LAW AND WHEREAS TO ALIGN THE TOWN'S ZONING CODE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THE TOWNS PROPOSING TO ENACT LOCAL LAW TO IMPLEMENT CERTAIN ZONING CHANGES AND WHEREAS TOWN VANDER PROPOSED TO RE RESUME PARCELS IN THE AREA NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF CAMP ROAD AND STALEY DRIVE WITH THE FOLLOWING SBL NUMBERS FROM M THREE GENERAL INDUSTRIAL AND M TWO WHITE INDUSTRIAL MU ONE MIXED USE 1 180 2 16 DASH 7 3 1 180 2 20 DASH 10 DASH 7 1 180 2 20 DASH TEN SEVEN ONE EIGHTY TWO TWENTY DASH 10 DASH 6 180 2 20 DASH TEN ONE EIGHTY TWO TWENTY DASH TEN ONE EIGHTY TWO TWENTY ONE EIGHTY TWO TWENTY AND ONE EIGHTY TWENTY TEN ONE.
AND WHERE SEVERAL SMALL PARCELS WERE MISSED IN THE JUNE 12TH, 2023 RESOLUTION TO CALL A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS REZONING PROPOSAL SHOWN PROPERLY ON THE MAP AND THE TOWN ADDED THE FOLLOWING SBL NUMBERS TO THAT PUBLIC HEARING.
SBL NUMBER 180 2 20 DASH 10 23 CURRENTLY ZONED M TWO AND SBL NUMBERS 180 2 DASH 16 DASH SEVEN ONE AND 180 2 16 DASH SEVEN DASH TWO ZONED M THREE ZONED TWO MU ONE WHEREAS PURSUANT TO PART 6 1 7 OF THE IMPLEMENTING REGULATIONS PERTAINING TO HONOR EIGHT OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION LAW OF AMBRY TOWN, FLORIDA ESTABLISHED ITSELF
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A SECRET LEAD AGENCY AND CONDUCTED A COORDINATED ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW FOR THIS TYPE ONE ACTION.AND WHEREAS TOM BOARD HAS COMPLETED THE FEAF PARTS ONE, TWO, AND THREE AND SOLICITED INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC AND FROM OTHER INVOLVED IN INTERESTED AGENCIES AND HAS TAKEN A HARD LOOK AT A SOCIAL ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS THE ADOPTION OF PROPOSED ZONING CHANGES AND WHEREAS THE FINAL IS NEW OF THIS REVIEW INDICATE THAT THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE WILL NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE NATURAL RESOURCE OF THE STATE AND OR THE HOUSE AGENT WELFARE THE PUBLIC AND WILL HELP MANAGE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT IN THE TOWN IN A MANNER THAT WILL HAVE POTENTIALLY BENEFICIAL IMPACTS ON AESTHETICS, RECREATION, ECONOMICS, TRANSPORTATION, AND COMMUNITY CHARACTER.
NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED, THE HAMMER TOWN BOARD IS SECRET LEAD AGENCY FOR THIS ACTION THAT'S DETERMINED THAT THE ADOPTION OF THIS ZONING CHANGE WILL NOT RESULT IN ANY SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE ENVIRONMENT AND A NEGATIVE DECLARATIONS HEREBY ISSUE BASED ON THE REASONS AS SET FORTH IN THE FULL ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM AND BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES THE TOWN SUPERVISOR TO SIGN THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM, WHICH WILL ACT AS A SECRET NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND AUTHORIZES THAT THE APPROPRIATE NOTICES AND FILINGS BE MADE.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
WHEREAS TOM PAM PROPOSED TO RESUME PARCELS IN THE AREA NEAR THE INTERSECTION IN CAMP ROAD AND SALE DRIVE WITH THE FOLLOWING SBL NUMBERS FROM M BLUE GENERAL INDUSTRIAL DAMAGE TWO LEG INDUSTRIAL DAMAGE ONE MIXED USE 1 180 2 180 2.
ONE EIGHTY TWO TWENTY TEN SEVEN ONE EIGHTY TWO TWENTY SIX ONE EIGHTY TWO TWENTY TEN ONE ONE EIGHTY TWO TWENTY DASH TEN ONE EIGHTY TWO TWENTY TEN, ONE EIGHTY TWO TWENTY TEN AND 180 2 180 20.
AND WHEREAS SEVERAL SMALL PARCELS WERE MISSING THE JUNE 12TH, 2023 RESOLUTION OF ALL OF A HEARING ON THIS REZONING PROPOSAL AND THE TOWN WOULD LIKE TO ADD THE FOLLOWING SBL NUMBERS TO THAT PUBLIC HEARING.
SBL NUMBER 180 2 DASH 20 DASH 23 CURRENTLY ZONED M TWO AND SBL NUMBERS 180 2 DASH 17 DASH SEVEN DASH ONE AND 180 2 16 DASH SEVEN TWO ZONED M THREE ALL TO BE REZONED TO MU ONE AND WHEREAS THE PROPOSED ZONING MAP AMENDMENT IS PROPOSED IN THE FORM OF A LOCAL LAW PURSUANT TO THE AUTHORITY GRANTED TO THE TOWN OF BAMBERG TOWN BOARD AND THE TOWN BY ARTICLES TWO AND THREE OF NEW YORK STATE VULNERABLE LAW AND BY ARTICLE TWO OF THE NEW YORK STATE STATUTE OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND THE TOWN BOARD IS AUTHORIZED AND EMPOWERED BY CHAPTER TWO 80, ARTICLE X-L-V-I-I-I OF THE CODE NINE OF 16 IN NEW YORK TOWN LAW TO AMEND THE ZONING MAP OF THE TOWN TO MEET THE GROWING AND CHANGING NEEDS OF THE TOWN.
THE HAMBRICK TOWN BOARD REFERRED THESE PROPOSED REZONINGS TO PLANNING BOARD FOR THEIR REVIEW, COMMENT, AND RECOMMENDATION IN THE PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS REZONING AND WHEREAS HAMBRICK TOWN BOARD HELD THE MACQUARIE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS PROPOSED REZONING ON AUGUST 14TH, 2023 AND WHERE RY TO BOARD HAS REVIEWED THE PROPOSED ACTIONS AND COMMENTS RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC AGENCIES AND TOWN OF FIRE DEFENSE COMMITTEES AND TOWN STAFF.
AND WHEREAS RY TO BOARD IS DETERMINED THAT THE PROPOSED REZONING WILL NOT RESULT IN ANY SIGNIFICANT NEGATIVE IMPACT IN THE ENVIRONMENT, IT'S ISSUED NEGATIVE DECLARATION.
AND WHEREAS PURSUANT TO MUNICIPAL OWNABLE LAW, THE TOWN BOARD IS PROPOSING TO ENACT THE LOCAL LAW WHICH PROPOSES TO AMEND THE TOWN ZONING MAP AS FOLLOWS, BEING ENACTED BY THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, NEW YORK.
THE HEIM TOWN BOARD AMENDS THE TOWN ZONING MAP AS FOLLOWS.
REZONE THE PARCELS WITH THE FOLLOWING SBL NUMBERS FROM M THREE GENERAL INDUSTRIAL AND M TWO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO MU ONE MIXED USE 1 180 2 DASH 1616 DASH 7 3 1 180 2 20 DASH 10 DASH 7 1 180 2 20 DASH TEN SEVEN ONE ONE EIGHTY TWO TWENTY DASH 10 DASH 6 180 2 20 DASH TEN ONE EIGHTY TWO TWENTY DASH TEN ONE EIGHTY TWO TWENTY TEN ONE EIGHTY TWO TWENTY TEN FIVE ELEVEN AND 180 20 DASH 10 DASH ONE.
AND THE FOLLOWING, SBL L NUMBERS 180 2 20 DASH 10 23 CURRENTLY ZONED M TWO AND SBL NUMBERS 180 2 16 DASH SEVEN DASH ONE AND 180 2 16 DASH SEVEN TWO MOVE ZONED M THREE DER BE REZONED M1 AND NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED WITH THE ZONING CODE OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG.
BE AMENDED AS FOLLOWS, TO AMEND LOCAL LAW NUMBER 10 OF THE YEAR, 1986 OF THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, CHAPTER TWO 80 ENTITLED ZONING TO PROVIDE FOR A CHANGE IN THE BOUNDARY OF THE ZONING ACT WHEREBY THE ZONING HAS CHANGED FROM M TWO LIKE INDUSTRIAL AND M THREE GENERAL INDUSTRIAL TO MU ONE MIXED USE DISTRICT FOR PROPERTIES INDICATED ABOVE.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER COUNTY.
TOWN BOARD APPROVE THE HIRING OF ALEXIS REED AS A PART-TIME PHOTO WITHIN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.
THE PAY RATE WILL BE $20 AN HOUR.
ONES AVAILABLE IN A POINT 13 10 0 1 0 2.
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SO SECOND.SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HOL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
WHEREAS TON BOARD WITH THE INPUT AND PARTICIPATION IN THE HAMBURG PLANNING BOARD AND ASSISTANCE OF THE TOWN HAS COMPLETED NEWS TOWN OF HAMBURG COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN THE COURTS WITH SECTION 2 73 DASH A OF NEW YORK STATE TOWN LAW AND WHERE TO FIND THE TOWN ZONING WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE TOWN IS PROPOSING TO ENACT A LOCAL LAW TO IMPLEMENT CERTAIN ZONING CHANGES AND WHEREAS TOWN OF VBRO PROPOSED TO REZONE A PARCEL OF LAND OWNED BY THE NEW YORK STATE THROUGH AUTHORITY ON THE WEST SIDE OF CAMP ROAD, NEAR THE INTERSECTION WITH INTERSTATE 90 FORMULATED THE GLOBAL LEAD PROPERTY.
WHEREAS PURSUANT TO PART SIX 17 AND IMPLEMENTING REGULATIONS PERTAINING TO ARTICLE EIGHT OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION LAW, THE MOND TOWN BOARD HAS ESTABLISHED ITSELF A SECRET LEAD AGENCY AND CONDUCTED COORDINATED ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW FOR THIS TYPE ONE ACTION.
AND WHEREAS TOWN BOARD HAS COMPLETED THE FEA OFF PARTS ONE, TWO, AND THREE AND SOLICITED INPUTS FROM THE PUBLIC AND FROM OTHER INVOLVED IN INTERESTED AGENCIES AND HAS TAKEN A HARD LOOK AT THE SOCIAL ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS, THE ADOPTION OF PROPOSED ZONING CHANGES AND WHEREAS THE FINDINGS IN THIS REVIEW INDICATE THAT THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGES WILL NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE NATURAL RESOURCE STATE AND OR THE HEALTH SAFETY OF THE WELFARE OF THE PUBLIC AND WILL HELP MANAGE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT IN THE TOWN IN A MANNER THAT WILL HAVE POTENTIALLY BENEFICIAL IMPACTS ON AESTHETICS, RECREATION, ECONOMICS, TRANSPORTATION, COMMUNITY CHARACTER.
HENRY TOWN BOARD A SECRET LEAD AGENCY FOR THIS ACTION IS GERMAN.
THAT THE ADOPTION OF THE TOWN OF HENRY ZONING CHANGE FOR THE PARCEL OF LAND OWNED BY THE NEW YORK STATE THREE AUTHORITY ON THE WEST SIDE OF CAMP ROAD IN THE NEW SECTION OF IT INTERSTATE 90 WILL NOT RESULT IN ANY SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE ENVIRONMENT AND A NEGATIVE DECLARATION IS HEREBY ISSUED BASED ON THE RECENT SET FORTH AND THE FULL ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM AND BE A FINAL RESOLVE.
THAT TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES TOWN SUPERVISOR TO SIGN THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM, WHICH WILL ACT AS SECRET NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND AUTHORIZE THE APPROPRIATE NOTICES AND VIOLENCE BE MADE.
MY COUNCIL MEMBER CON FAVORED AND SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
OPPOSED? EXTENSIONS CARRIED WHERE AS HAMBURG TOWN BOARD INTRODUCED PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING MAP OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG TO RE ZONE PARCELS NEAR THE SECTION OF CAMP ROAD AND NEW YORK STATE THROUGH AUTHORITY INTERCHANGE ONE OF THOSE PARCELS OF LAND IS LOCATED IN THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF CAMP ROAD CURRENTLY WITHOUT ANY ZONING CLASSIFICATION.
THE PARCEL WAS PROPOSED TO BE ZONED CRI CAMP ROAD INTERCHANGE DISTRICT AS ILLUSTRATED ON THE CATCH MAP AND WHERE AS THE PROPOSED ZONING MAP AMENDMENT IS PROPOSED IN THE FORM OF LOCAL LAW PURSUANT TO THE AUTHORITY AND GRANTED TO THE TOWN OF HAMBURG TOWN BOARD AND THE TOWN BY ARTICLES TWO AND THREE NEW STATE MUNICIPAL HOME RULE LAW AND BY ARTICLE TWO OF NEW YORK STATE STATUTE OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
AND THE THE TOWN BOARD IS AUTHORIZED AND EMPOWERED BY CHAPTER TWO 80 UNDER AL VIII OF THE CODE ARTICLE 16 NEW YORK TOWN LAW TO AMEND THE ZONING MAP OF THE TOWN TO MEET THEIR GOING AND CHANGING NEEDS OF THE TOWN.
AND WHEREAS AMBER TOWN BOARD REFERRED THESE PROPOSED RE ZONINGS AMBER PLANNING BOARD FOR THE REVIEW COMMON AND RECOMMENDATION WAS DECIDED THAT THE NEW YORK STATE THREE PROPERTY BE PRIORITIZED FOR MOVING FORWARD AS THE PROPERTY IS BEING PLANNED FOR AUCTION.
AND WHEREAS THE HAM, THE PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS REZONING AND WHEREAS THE HAMBRICK TOWN BOARD HELD THE REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS PROPOSED REZONING ON JULY 17TH, 2023.
AND WHERE IS HAMBRICK TOWN BOARD IS REFUSED THE PROPOSED ACTION IN THE COMMENTS RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC AGENCIES AND TOWN DEPARTMENTS, COMMITTEES AND TOWN STAFF.
AND WHEREAS HAMMER TOWN BOARD HAS DETERMINED THAT THE PROPOSED REZONING WILL NOT RESULT IN ANY SIGNIFICANT NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT, IT'S ISSUED A NEGATIVE DECLARATION.
AND WHEREAS PURSUANT TO MUNICIPAL HOME RULE LAW, THE TOWN BOARDS PROPOSED TO ENACT A LOCAL LAW WHICH PROPOSES TO AMEND THE TOWN'S ZONING MAP AS FOLLOWS.
HE HAD ENACTED BY THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, NEW YORK, THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD AMENDS THE TOWN ZONING MAP AS FOLLOWS, REZONED THE PROPERTY ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF CAMP ROAD CURRENTLY WITHOUT ANY ZONING CLASSIFICATION TO CRI CAMP ROAD INTERCHANGE DISTRICT NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED.
THE ZONING COURT OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, HE AMENDED AS FOLLOWS TO AMEND LOCAL ON NUMBER 10 OF THE YEAR, 1986 OF THE TOWN OF CODE OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, CHAPTER TWO 80 IN FEDERAL ZONING TO PROVIDE FOR A CHANGE FROM THE BOUNDARY OF THE ZONING MAP WHEREBY THE ZONING HAS CHANGED FROM NON ZONE LANDS TO CRI FOR PROPERTY LOCATED THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF CAMP ROAD PREVIOUSLY CONTAINING THE CLOVER RELIEF FOR NEW YORK STATE THROUGH A PROPERTY.
MY COUNCIL MEMBER HONG FAVORLY SEEN BY BY SAYING AYE.
OPPOSED? EXTENSIONS CARRIED ONE MORE.
WHEREAS HAMMERTON BOARD WITH THE INPUT AND PARTICIPATION HAMMER PLANNING BOARD AND CITIZENS OF THE TOWNS COMPLETED A NEW TOWN OF
AND WHEREAS TO ISLAND THE TOWN ZONING WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE TOWN IS PROPOSING TO ENACT A LOCAL LAW TO IMPLEMENT CERTAIN ZONING CHANGES.
AND WHEREAS THE TOWN OF V PROPOSES A REZONE PARCELS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE RAILROAD NEAR HEALTH ROAD AND PLEASANT AVENUE WITH THE FOLLOWING SBL NUMBERS FROM M TWO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO RA RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL 180 1 0.0 0 1 5 11 AND 180 1 0.0 0 1 5 12.
AND WHEREAS PURSUANT TO PART 6 1 7 OF THE IMPLEMENTING REGULATIONS, RETURNING TO ARTICLE EIGHT
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OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION LAW OF THE MB TOWN BOARD IS ESTABLISHED ITSELF.A SECRET LEAD AGENCY CONDUCTED A COORDINATED ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW FOR THIS TYPE ONE ACTION.
AND WHEREAS THE TOWN BOARD HAS COMPLETED THE FEAF PARTS ONE, TWO, AND THREE AND SOLICITED INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC AND OTHER FROM INVOLVED IN INTERESTED AGENCIES AND HAS TAKEN A HARD LOOK AT THE SOCIAL ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS ADOPTION OF THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGES.
AND WHEREAS THE FINDINGS OF THIS REVIEW INDICATE THAT THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGES WILL NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE NATURAL RESOURCES OF THE STATE AND OR THE HOUSE SAFETY AND WEALTH OF THE PUBLIC AND WILL HELP MANAGE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT IN THE TOWN IN MANNER THAT WILL HAVE POTENTIALLY BENEFICIAL IMPACTS ON AESTHETICS, RECREATION, ECONOMICS, TRANSPORTATION, AND CHARACTER.
NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED, THE HENRY TOWN BOARD HAS SEEK A LEAD AGENCY FOR THIS ACTION AS DETERMINED THAT THE ADOPTION OF THE ZONING CHANGE WILL NOT RESULT IN ANY SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE ENVIRONMENT.
AND NEGATIVE DECLARATION IS HEREBY ISSUE BASED ON THE REASONS THAT SET FORTH AND THE FULL ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORUM AND BE ITS RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES TOWN SUPERVISOR TO SOUND THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM, WHICH WILL ACT SIGN NEGATIVE DECLARATION, AUTHORIZE THAT THE APPROPRIATE NOTICES AND FILINGS BE MADE.
SO SECOND, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER COUNTY ALL IN FAVOR OF THE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
WHEREAS TOWN PROPOSED TO RESUME THE PARCEL ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE RAILROAD NEAR ROAD IN PLEASANT AVENUE WITH FILING SP NUMBERS FROM M TWO INDUSTRIAL RA RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL 180 1 AND 180 1.
AND WHERE IS THE PROPOSED ZONING? MAP AMENDMENT IS PROPOSED IN THE FORM OF A LOCAL LAW PURSUANT TO THE AUTHORITY GRANTED TO THE TOWN OF HAMBURG TOWN BOARD AND THE TOWN BY ARTICLE TWO AND THREE OF THE NEW YORK STATE MUNICIPAL ONLY LAW.
AND BY ARTICLE TWO OF THE NEW YORK STATE STATUTE OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND THE TOWN BOARD IS AUTHORIZED AND EMPOWERED BY CHAPTER TWO 80, ARTICLE X-L-B-I-I-I OFF CODE ARTICLE 16 OF NEWTOWN LAW TO AMENDMENT ZONING ACT, THE TOWN TO MEET THE GROWING AND CHANGE NEEDS OF THE TOWN WHERE IS EM.
TOWN BOARD REFERRED THESE PROPOSED ZONINGS OF THE PLANNING BOARD FOR THE REVIEW, COMMENT, OR RECOMMENDATION THE PLANNING BOARD OF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS REZONING.
AND WHEREAS HENRY TOWN BOARD HELD THE REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS PROPOSED REZONING ON JULY 17TH, 2023.
AND WHEREAS HENRY TOWN BOARD HAS REVIEWED THE PROPOSED ACTION OF THE COMMENTS RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC AGENCIES AND TOWN DEPARTMENTS, COMMITTEES AND TOWN STAFF.
AND WHEREAS HAMBURG TOWN BOARD IS DETERMINED THAT THE PROPOSED REZONING WILL NOT RESULT IN ANY SIGNIFICANT NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT AND HAS ISSUED A NEGATIVE DECLARATION.
AND WHEREAS PURSUANT TO MUNICIPAL HOME RULE LAW, THE TOWN BOARD IS PROPOSING ENACT LOCAL LAW WHICH PROPOSES TO AMEND THE DOWN ZONING MAP AS FOLLOWS, REZONING THE PROPERTIES WITH THE FOLLOWING SBL NUMBERS FROM M TWO INDUSTRIAL TO RA RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL 180 1 0 0 5 11 180 1 0 1.
NOW THEREFORE, WE RESOLVED THAT THE ZONING CODE AT THE TOWN OF HAMBURG BE AMENDED AS FOLLOWS, TO AMEND LOCAL ONE UNDER 10 IN THE YEAR 1986, THE TOWN CODE AT THE TOWN OF CHAPTER TWO 80 IN FEDERAL ZONING TO PROVIDE FOR A CHANGE IN THE BOUNDARY OF THE ZONING MAP WHEREBY ZONING HAS CHANGED FROM M TWO LIKE INDUSTRIAL TO RA, RESIDENTIAL AG AND AGRICUL FOR PROPERTIES INDICATED ABOVE.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CONLEY.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
OPPOSED AB EXTENSIONS PERIOD WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM JEFFREY ZIMMER TO REZO 0.7 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT 35 20 A ROAD, 51 20 STEWART ROAD AND BACON PARCELS, A MASTERSHIP ROW FROM R TWO TO C ONE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF 5,700 SQUARE FOOT COMMERCIAL BUILDING.
AND WHERE HAS THE CODE REVIEW COMMITTEE REVIEWED THE APPLICATION? RECOMMENDED THAT THE TOWN BOARD ENTER, OBTAIN THIS RE ZONE REQUEST WITH CONCERNS AND WHERE HAS TON BOARD REFERRED THIS REVISED REZONING REQUEST OF THE BLAMING BOARD FOR ITS REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION, WHEREAS TON BOARD RECEIVED THE FILING BOARDS REPORT AND RECOMMENDATION, WHEREAS EVERYTOWN BOARD CONDUCTED A COORDINATED SECRET PROCESS TO ESTABLISH THE TOWN BOARD A SECRET LEAD AGENCY IN ACCORDS WITH THE NEW YORK STATE ENVIRONMENTAL WATER REVIEW ACT AND COMPLETED A 2 39 M COUNTY REFERRAL.
AND NOW THEREFORE WE HAVE RESOLVED.
AMBER TOWN BOARD SETS A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS PROPOSED REZONING APPLICATION TO AMBER TOWN HALL, 6,100 SOUTH PARK AVENUE IN HAMBURG, NEW YORK AT 7:00 PM PM ON NOVEMBER 27TH, 2023.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HO IN FAVOR, DO FAVOR BY SAYING AYE A.
OPPOSED? THERE I DON'T HAVE THE AUDIT FOR CASH V WILL BE RESOLVED.
THE HENRY BOARD AUTHORIZED THE TOM BOARD AUDIT OF CASH DISBURSEMENTS DATED NOVEMBER 6TH, 2023.
TOTAL CASH DISBURSEMENTS SUBMITTED FOR AUDIT.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER COUNTY.
OPPOSED EXTENSIONS? IT BRINGS US TO, UH, BUSINESS FROM THE FLOOR.
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MY CONCERNS ARE MANY, BUT WE'RE GONNA START WITH ZONING AND QUALITY OF LIFE AND HOW IT AFFECTS US HERE IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG AND THE RESIDENTS.NOT TO APPEAL TO PATRIOTISM, BUT THE HIGHEST LAW OF OUR LAND STARTS WITH WE THE PEOPLE AND WE, THE PEOPLE, THE RESIDENTS OF HAMBURG ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE TO LIVE HERE.
NOT GIANT, FACELESS CORPORATIONS.
NOT, IT DOESN'T START WITH WE THE RICHEST WE WITH THE BIGGEST BUSINESSES.
WE WITH THE HEDGE FUNDS STARTS WITH WE THE PEOPLE.
AND IN MY VIEW, IF WE ARE NOT EXTRAORDINARILY CAREFUL WITH THESE LARGE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENTS, AND I'M SPEAKING PARTICULARLY OF WHAT'S GOING ON AT HAMBURG CROSSING, WHICH IS GONNA HAVE A, WHICH IS A FABULOUSLY LARGE DEVELOPMENT AND IS, IS COMPLETELY UNSUITABLE FOR THE LOCATION BECAUSE IT AFFECTS FIVE NEIGHBORHOODS ON CAMP ROAD.
OUR LITTLE CAMP ROAD, WHICH IS ONLY THREE AND A HALF MILES LONG AT FOUR LANES WIDE AND NOW CARRIES 20,000 CARS A DAY.
THIS IS BASED, THE BASIS OF THEIR, UH, PROPOSAL COMES FROM A 2009 SEEKER RESOLUTION, WHICH WASN'T TOO BAD, IT WAS MIXED RESIDENTIAL AND, UH, AND SMALL BUSINESSES.
GREAT IDEA, PERFECT FIT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT A LARGE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT.
THEY'RE CALLING IT A WAREHOUSE.
AND WE WILL HAVE LITERALLY, IF THEY GET THEIR APPROVAL, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE HUNDREDS OF TRUCK DOCKS.
THEY CANNOT TELL US WHO IS GOING TO BE THERE.
THEY CANNOT TELL US WHAT THESE JOBS WILL PAY.
THEY CANNOT TELL US WHAT THE IMPACT IS GOING TO BE.
THEY PULLED, THEY PULLED SOME NUMBERS OUT OF THIN AIR ON WHAT THE TRAFFIC IMPACT IS GONNA BE, BUT AN EXTRA 157 VEHICLES AN HOUR AT EACH.
THAT'S, UH, THAT COULD, THAT COULD BLOW UP TO THREE, FOUR VEHICLES PER MINUTE, COULD BE TRACTOR TRAILERS.
THIS IS GONNA HAVE A TREMENDOUS NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE QUALITY OF OUR LIFE.
AND THAT, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, IS, IS THE ENVIRONMENT.
I BELIEVE THAT WE NEED YOUR PROTECTION BECAUSE YOU PEOPLE ARE, YOU'RE THE LAST, YOU'RE THE LAST STOP IN THIS ADVENTURE.
WE THE PEOPLE, AND WE CAN'T ALLOW BUSINESSES TO COME IN, BULLY US, TAKE OUR PROPERTY AND LEAVE BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE WILL NEVER SPEND ONE DAY LIVING IN OUR TOWN.
AND ALL OF US, WE, THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE OUTCOME.
SO PLEASE TREAD CAREFULLY, CAUTIOUSLY, AND REJECT LARGE DEVELOPMENTS, INDUSTRIAL TYPE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO CAUSE A REDUCTION IN OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.
AS A 30 YEAR RESIDENT OF HAMBURG, I CAN TELL YOU THINGS HAVE GOTTEN A LITTLE, A LITTLE HECTIC HERE.
WE HAVE TWO LARGE TRUCKING FACILITIES ON ROUTE FIVE, ONE IN OPERATION, ONE ABOUT TO COME ONLINE AND WE JUST APPROVED 197,000 SQUARE FEET FOR FEED MORE WESTERN NEW YORK.
WONDERFUL PEOPLE CAN'T SAY ENOUGH NICE THINGS ABOUT THEM.
GLAD WE'RE HERE THAT THEY'RE CALLING FOR 500 PARKING SPACES IN A WAREHOUSE.
SO THAT IS GOING TO BE IN EFFECT, PERHAPS WE NEED MORE LOCAL TRAFFIC STUDIES GOING FORWARD AS WE LOOK AT THESE PROJECTS AND WHAT THEY ENTAIL AND WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BRING.
AND AS EACH PROJECT COMES ONLINE, THEN THE NEED CHANGES AND THE, AND THE QUALITY OF OUR LIFE CAN BE AFFECTED.
SO I'M ASKING THE BOARD TO PLEASE TAKE CARE OF WE, THE PEOPLE WE WANNA SEE OUR TOWN.
IT'S JUST A LOVELY TOWN TO LIVE IN.
LET'S NOT MAKE IT, LET'S NOT MAKE A MESS OUT OF IT BY APPROVING PROJECTS THAT MIGHT NOT BE SUITABLE FOR WHERE WE LIVE.
ARE THE CLEANERS OUT IN THE BUDGET? ARE IN THE BUDGET AS I MENTIONED.
YES OR NO? AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS IS NOT A BACK AND FORTH CONVERSATION DURING PUBLIC DISCUSSION.
YOU'RE TAKING THOSE CLEANERS OUT OF THE BUDGET.
DID ONE OF YOUR CLEANERS BEEN DEALING WITH THROAT CANCER FOR TWO YEARS? I HOPE YOU FEEL GOOD NOW SHE'S GOTTA DEAL WITH IT.
THE REST OF HER TESTS ARE IN JANUARY.
SHE DOESN'T HAVE MEDICAL INSURANCE.
I GOT A LOT TO SAY, BUT I'M GONNA ASK YOU.
I'M ASKING FOR YOUR RESIGNATION TODAY.
AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS IS NOT A CONVERSATION.
OKAY? I'LL ADDRESS YOUR REMARKS DURING REPORTS FROM THE BOARD.
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I'M GLAD YOU DON'T HAVE CANCER.I CAN'T ASK ANY QUESTIONS OF THE BOARD 'CAUSE IT'S NOT A GIVE OR TAKE.
IF THERE ARE FAVOR GETTING RID OF CLEANERS OR NOT, YOU'RE A REAL INDIVIDUAL.
AND BY THE WAY, YOU'RE, YOU'RE HIRING A JOB, YOU'RE GETTING RID OF CLEANERS AND DOES DISPATCH KNOW YOU'RE IN CON IN TALKS WITH MOVING THEM DOWNTOWN AND YOU'RE HIRING A FULL-TIME DISPATCHER? THAT'S RIGHT.
YOU'RE NOT ANSWERING QUESTIONS.
I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT ONE.
UH, MR. UH, GOOD EVENING, MAHONEY.
UM, DURING THE WORK SESSION, MR. HOPE YOU, UH, EXPLAINED THE REASONS WE DIDN'T HAVE A VOTE TODAY FOR THE BUDGET AND, UM, WELL, MANY OF THE TAXPAYERS ARE DISAPPOINTED.
WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE A VOTE TODAY WITH THE BUDGET, BEING THAT IT WAS A PAST PRACTICE, UM, AND ALL THE OTHER ADMINISTRATIONS.
THE FIRST SCHEDULED MEETING IN NOVEMBER WAS NORMALLY THE BUDGET VOTE, BUT YOU GAVE YOUR REASONS WHY YOU WOULDN'T HAVE.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS TO PIGGYBACK A LITTLE BIT, MR. YOU HAD SAID, UM, NO DISRESPECT TO THESE POSITIONS.
YOU WERE TRYING TO FILL THE ASSESSOR AND THE TYPIST AND ALL THAT, BUT GETTING RID OF THESE CLEANERS, WHO'S GONNA CLEAN THE OFFICE OFFICES AND WHO'S GONNA CLEAN THE TOM? THAT'S, YOU KNOW, QUESTION WE CAN ANSWER LATER.
UM, TWO OF THE CLEANER SALARIES DON'T MAKE AS MUCH AS WHAT YOU'RE PAYING THOSE NEW ASSESSORS.
SO I JUST WANTED TO DO THAT, THAT MATH IN COMPARISON.
UM, THE OTHER QUESTIONS, UM, I HAVE REGARDING, UM, SOME OF THE BUDGETS.
A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO WE TALKED ABOUT THE CLOCK TOP AND, UM, THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT THREW A FOIL, GAVE ME A LOT OF MAPS AND A LOT OF INFORMATION ON A CLOCK DOOR.
SO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS YOU COULD PROBABLY ANSWER ME TODAY, UM, YOU MENTIONED THAT FEMA WAS GOING TO REPAY MONEY THAT THE TOWN FRONTED TO GET THOSE REPAIRS DONE BY THE CLOCK TOWER.
SO THE RFP WAS, WAS THAT ONE QUESTION, THE RFP, WAS THAT FOR THE TOTAL, UH, CONSTRUCTION OR THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO FIX THAT? OR WAS IT DIVIDED? BECAUSE THERE'S SOME, IN THIS MAP, THERE'S SOME PRIVATE AREA, A BUSINESS AS WE ALL KNOW, THAT WHAT WE WANNA KNOW, HOW WAS THAT PAID FOR? WAS THE TOWN FLOODING THAT PAYMENT WITH THE RRFP OF, WAS IT NER OR BODEN CONSTRUCTION AS A TOTAL AND THEN THEY WERE REIMBURSED, OR WHO PAID FOR THAT PRIVATE PARKING AREA THAT WAS REDEVELOPED AND REPAID BY THIS CONSTRUCTION COMPANY? UM, SO THAT WAS A QUESTION ON THE CLOCK TELL.
AND WHAT'S YOUR ETA ON THE REIMBURSEMENT FROM FEMA? YOU SAID IT WAS 75.
WELL, I'M JUST QUOTING WHAT YOU SAID.
75,000 FEMA WAS, WHY DOES THE TOWN HAVE TO COVER 25%? UH, IT GOT ME CONFUSED.
THE FEMA'S COVERING THE DAMAGE.
WHY IS IT DIVIDED? I'M JUST CURIOUS ON THAT QUESTION.
UM, AND, AND, AND THE OTHER THINGS THAT, UM, SOME OF THE CUTS THAT YOU'VE BEEN MAKING ON THIS BUDGET, I KNOW YOU GAVE YOUR REASONS WHY THERE'S MORE STUDY AND SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, UM, NEED MORE CONVERSATION ON YOUR, UM, LEASING OF THE VEHICLES.
IT WAS BROUGHT UP TO ME BY SOME OF THE TAXPAYERS.
I HAVE A TOTAL OF THE SUMMARY THAT I RECEIVED OF 13 LEASED VEHICLES.
IS THAT THE CORRECT NUMBER? UM, THE POLICE FOUR.
I JUST LEARNED TODAY, HIGHWAYS GETTING THREE, ENGINEERING, ONE RECREATION, ONE BUILDING INSPECTION, FOUR AND BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS TOO.
AND I, BUT WITH THE ADDED ONES FOR THE HIGHWAY, IT'S 13.
SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF THAT IS THE CORRECT NUMBER OF THE LEASED VEHICLES THAT THE TOWN HAS TO PAY BECAUSE THE LEASING MIGHT BE A GREAT IDEA.
I DON'T KNOW HOW, HOW YOUR CONTRACT WENT, BUT WHO DOES THE MAINTENANCE ON THAT ALSO 'CAUSE THE TOWN DO THE MAINTENANCE ON THE LEASED VEHICLES OR DOES OR YOU GIVE IT BACK TO THE LEASING COMPANY AND DO THEY DO IT? I WAS JUST, I'M JUST QUESTIONING THAT.
UM, SO JUST CLOCK TOWER, THE THE PRIVATE AREA THERE AND ARE AND REGARDING, UM, THE JOBS, THE THREE JOBS THAT WERE, ARE THEY BEING RELOCATED? ARE THOSE PEOPLE, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THESE PEOPLE BE ILLEGAL? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UM, ANY OTHER PUBLIC EXPRESSION? ALRIGHT, THEN WE WILL GO TO, UH, REPORTS FROM THE DEPARTMENT.
HEADS IT, NOTHING TO REPORT FINANCE, NOTHING TO REPORT SUPERINTENDENT PUBLIC WORKS.
UH, JUST WANTED TO RECORD AGAIN ON
HOPING TO WRAP THAT UP, UH, BY JANUARY, FEBRUARY BEING DONE.
AS LONG AS WE HAVE SOME, BUT SOON.
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IS HOPEFULLY GONNA BE ADVERTISED VERY SOON, UH, FOR BIDDING.AND WE'LL AWARD THAT FOR A SPRING CONSTRUCTION.
AND I HAVE TO REPORT THAT THE BURKE PARKING LOT, UH, THAT IS ABOUT 70% DONE.
WE'VE GOT A GOOD CONTRACTOR ON THAT.
AND, UH, SOME OF THE OTHER PARK PROJECTS ARE JUST STARTING.
SO THE GOLF COURSE'S BEEN A START.
AND THE WILLIAMS B WILLIAMS, THE DRAINAGE PLAN, THANK YOU.
ENGINEERING CONSULTANT, NOTHING TO REPORT HIGHWAY.
UH, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF, UH, GEARING UP TOWARDS WINTER, UM, AND WE'RE STILL, UH, PICKING UP LEAD BAGS.
UH, WE'RE GOING THROUGH EVERY ZONE.
AND, UH, BRUSH WILL BE, UM, IN CONCLUSION BY THE END OF THE MONTH.
I WANT THANK ALL THE FAMILIES AND CITIZENS THAT CAME OUT TO OUR TRUNK RETREAT EVENT, UH, FRIDAY, OCTOBER 27TH.
AND I WANNA ALSO THANK ALL THE TOWN DEPARTMENTS THAT ENTERED A TRUMP AND SPECIAL CONGRATULATIONS TO SUPERINTENDENT.
HUGE BEHIND DEPARTMENT AND HIS CREW.
UH, WE'RE THE BEST TRUNK IN 2023, SO, UH, WE'RE PLANNING ON HAVING ANOTHER TRUNK RETREAT NEXT YEAR, SO WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN DO IT EVEN BIGGER AND BETTER.
AND THEN AS FAR AS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT GOES, WE ARE ACTUALLY IN OUR FINAL PHASE OF ACCREDITATION.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT SINCE, UH, MARCH OF THIS YEAR.
AND, UH, DECEMBER FIVE, SIX, AND SEVEN, WE HAVE THREE ASSESSORS COMING IN THAT ARE GONNA REVIEW OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND OPERATION.
AND IF THINGS GO WELL, I ANTICIPATE THEY WILL.
WE SHOULD BE AN ACCREDITED AGENCY HOPEFULLY IN 2024.
UH, YOUTH REC SENIOR SERVICES.
UM, WE'RE STILL REALIZING THAT WE DIDN'T PLACE IN CAR TREE PICK OURSELVES UP.
UM, WE HAD A FUN WITH THE BUZZ ON THE FOURTH AND IT WENT VERY WELL.
UM, WE JUST HAD A WINTER, UM, PACKAGE GIVEAWAY AND IT WAS ACTUALLY, UM, THEY WERE ALL GONE IN THE FIRST, UM, HOUR.
AND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER CONLEY AND HOPE WERE ABLE TO COME AND HELP PASS THOSE OUT FOR INDIVIDUALS TO KEEP IN THEIR CAR, UM, FOR THE WINTER SEASON SO THAT THEY ARE PREPARED.
UM, AND WE ALSO HAVE, WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING WITH THE POLICE EVEN MORE.
UH, WE'RE GONNA BE DOING A HOLIDAY COLLECTION, NOT JUST A TOY COLLECTION THIS YEAR.
WE'RE GONNA OPEN UP TO A HOLIDAY COLLECTION, COLLECTING THINGS FOR, UM, OUR SENIOR RESIDENTS, UM, THINGS THAT THEY MIGHT NEED AND THAT, YOU KNOW, GIVE THEM A LITTLE SPECIAL SOMETHING FOR CHRISTMAS AS WELL.
UM, I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT HAS IN THE AUDIENCE.
UM, I LIKE TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT SATURDAY IS VETERAN'S DAY, SO WHEN YOU SEE A VETERAN, THANK THEM FOR THEIR, THEIR SERVICE.
NOT JUST SATURDAY, BUT EVERY DAY.
AND THAT BRINGS US TWO REPORTS FROM THE BOARD AND WE'LL START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER FARRELL LORENZ.
UH, SO I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO EACH, UH, MEETING BRING US THEIR CONCERNS AND THEIR THOUGHTS.
UM, SO THANK YOU TO MR. UCCI AND THE OTHERS WHO, WHO SPOKE TODAY.
UM, AND THE INFORMATION THAT, THAT YOU, THAT YOU DO BRING FORTH IS ALWAYS CONSIDERED AND BECOMES AN IMPORTANT PART OF, YOU KNOW, OUR THOUGHT PROCESS AND OUR DECISION MAKING PROCESS.
UM, I LOOK FORWARD TO FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ON THE BUDGET AND BEING ABLE TO WORK FORWARD SOLUTIONS, UM, TO MANY OF THE ISSUES THAT WERE RAISED.
I THINK, UM, SOME ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION MAY BE ABLE TO MOVE US IN IN THAT DIRECTION, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT, TO THAT OPPORTUNITY.
UM, IT IS NATIONAL CAREGIVERS MONTH.
UH, MANY OF US I'M SURE EITHER ARE OR KNOW OR MAY NEED A CAREGIVER AT SOME POINT, AND I THINK IT ALSO SPEAKS TO THAT, UM, HELPING ONE ANOTHER.
AND SO IN THIS MONTH OF NATIONAL CAREGIVERS MONTH, UM, LOOK, LOOK TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO FOR ONE ANOTHER AND HOW WE CAN SUPPORT THOSE WHO ARE SUPPORTING OTHERS.
UM, IT'S ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED A FEW DIFFERENT TIMES, BUT WE'VE HAD QUITE A FEW EVENTS IN THE TOWN, UH, THROUGHOUT, UH, RED RIBBON WEEK AND, UH, HALLOWEEN.
WE HAVE MANY DIFFERENT, UH, EVENTS COMING UP WITH OUR SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY WITH OTHER HOLIDAY EVENTS.
AND SO OUR DEPARTMENTS, OUR VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AND ADVISORY BOARDS REALLY ARE TIRELESSLY AT WORK.
UM, PUTTING TOGETHER THESE EVENTS, EVERYTHING FROM OUR SENIOR YOUTH AND REC TO OUR BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS HIGHWAY, OUR YOUTH AND SENIOR ADVISORY BOARD, OUR REJUVENATION, THE CHRISTMAS AND THE CABINET COMING INTO DECEMBER.
AND, AND SO THEY'RE WORKING YEAR ROUND TIRELESSLY.
AND SO I THANK THEM FOR ALL OF THAT THEY DO IN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND THEN FINALLY ALSO, KATHY, I'D LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT IT IS VETERAN DAY ON SATURDAY AND THERE ARE MANY EVENTS THROUGHOUT OUR TOWN THAT HELP US REMEMBER AND HONOR AND SHOW
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RESPECT FOR ALL OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE GIVEN SO MUCH IN OUR COMMUNITY AND IN OUR NATION AND THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.UM, THAT I KNOW THAT THERE ARE EVENTS AT LAKESIDE CEMETERY STARTING AS EARLY AS NINE 30 IN THE MORNING.
THERE'S EVENTS AT THE AMERICAN LEGION POST AT THE BFW AND I'M SURE THAT INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND EITHER ON OUR WEBSITE, THEIR WEBSITE, BUT IF YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, IT REALLY IS A VERY HUMBLING AND, UM, WONDERFUL, UM, UM, EVENT TO PARTAKE IN AND, AND TO SEE THE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE GIVEN SO MUCH AND TO BE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE THEM AND THANK THEM.
AND AS KATHY SAID, NOT JUST ON SATURDAY, BUT EVERY DAY.
AND ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO'S A VETERAN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCILMAN.
I WANNA THANK THE BOY SCOUTS ARE COMING UP.
I'M SURE YOU'RE PROBABLY WORKING ON YOUR CITIZENSHIP IN THE COMMUNITY BADGE, IF I HAD TO BET.
AND FIGURED THAT WAS THE ONE YOU ARE WORKING ON.
SO IT'S NICE TO SEE YOU TEACHING, UM, THE YOUNG SCOUTS AND ONE ANOTHER, THE IMPORTANCE OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
I KNOW I'VE GOT A COUPLE SCOUTS AT HOME, SO IT'S ALWAYS NICE TO HAVE YOU IN THE AUDIENCE.
UM, SO GOOD LUCK WITH THAT BATCH.
I THINK YOU HAVE A CITIZENSHIP IN SOCIETY NEXT TO DUKE.
UM, AFTER THAT I JUST WANTED TO ONCE AGAIN, UH, BRING THE LIGHT.
CONGRATULATIONS OUT TO THE LIBRARY.
BRIAN HOST, THE LIBRARIAN FOR HAMBURG HAS A MUSIC LIBRARY, UM, A MUSIC GARDEN LIBRARY.
SO IF YOU GET A CHANCE, HEAD OVER TO LAKE SHORE LIBRARY, THERE IS ACTUALLY STRUCTURES BUILT THERE THAT CREATE SOUND AND MUSIC.
SO IF YOU WANNA GO AND SEE A DIFFERENT, A DIFFERENT TYPE OF LIBRARY EXPERIENCE, I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO OUT THERE.
UM, I KNOW HE'S LOOKING TO EXPAND THAT TOO WITH THE SENSORY GUARDED, SO IT'LL BE EXCITING TO SEE THE CHANGES THAT ARE OCCURRING THERE AND FINDING NEW WAYS TO ENCOURAGE KIDS INTO THE COMMUNITY TO USE THE LIBRARIES.
ALSO, I WANTED TO THANK, UM, KATHY KY FOR REMINDING US ALL TO, UH, REACH OUT TO A VET, MAKE SURE YOU THANK YOUR VETERANS EVERY SINGLE DAY FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE.
IF IT WEREN'T FOR THEM, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE.
I KNOW IN MY PERSONAL CLASSROOM WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON SOME VERY COLORFUL CARDS AND THEY'RE QUITE EXCITED TO HAND DELIVER THEM TO SOME OF OUR VETS.
IT MEANS MORE THAN YOU KNOW, TO THE VETERANS THAT SOMEBODY IS RECOGNIZING THEM, ESPECIALLY IF YOU TAKE THE MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE THEM ON DAYS THAT AREN'T JUST VETERANS DAY.
UM, AND LIKE COUNCIL
THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP YOU OUT.
UM, SEVERAL THINGS I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS.
UH, FIRST, MR. UCCI, THANK YOU FOR COMING AND LETTING YOUR VOICE TO, UM, WHAT MIGHT BE HAMBURG'S NEXT BIG ISSUE.
THIS IS A, A BIG PROJECT AND IT IS GONNA TAKE SOME TIME.
UM, THERE'S GONNA BE AMPLE TIME FOR RESIDENTS TO, TO BRING THEIR VOICE.
AND, AND I'VE TALKED TO SEVERAL RESIDENTS ALREADY, AND IT IS, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THIS, THIS PARCEL, UM, UNTIL YOU LOOK AT A MAP, YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MANY NEIGHBORHOODS IT ACTUALLY AFFECTS.
THE TOWN IS DIFFERENT, THE ECONOMY IS DIFFERENT.
UM, YOU KNOW, TRUCKING IS DIFFERENT.
THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PIECES HERE.
SO I THANK YOU AND I ASK YOU TO, TO CONTINUE TO COME.
UM, AND TO ANY HAMMERED RESIDENTS THAT ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS ISSUE, UM, PLEASE COME TO OUR, OUR MEETINGS, PLANNING BOARD MEETINGS, UM, AND LET YOUR VOICE PLEASE BE HEARD.
UM, MR. JEWETT HAS, HAS LEFT, UNFORTUNATELY, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, UH, IN, IN EVERYBODY'S BEST INTEREST THAT I RESPOND TO HIS COMMENTS AND, AND QUITE FRANKLY, WHAT I WOULD CHARACTERIZE AS, AS ALLEGATIONS.
UM, LET ME START WITH WITH THE, THE EASIEST ONE, DISPATCH.
OUR TOWN OF HAMBURG PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCH IS SECOND TO NONE.
I WOULD SAY THAT OUR TOWN OF HAMBURG PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCH OUTPERFORMS ERIE COUNTY.
I WOULD INVITE MR. JT J TOUR OF OUR DISPATCH FACILITY.
HE CAN SEE THAT WE ARE INVESTED IN KEEPING DISPATCH HERE.
NOT ONLY IS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG INVESTED IN KEEPING DISPATCH HERE, THE OTHER TOWNS THAT WE SERVE HAVE CHOSEN HAMBURG OVER ERIE COUNTY TALKING ABOUT EDEN, BOSTON, AND GOLDEN.
I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF THERE WAS MORE REQUESTS FROM OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IN THE COMING YEAR TO PROVIDE DISPATCH TO THEIR TOWNS.
DISPATCH IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
THIS WAS AN ISSUE THAT A PREVIOUS
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SUPERVISOR TRIED TO ADDRESS IN 2006.THERE'S NO WAY I'M GONNA FLOAT THIS IDEA.
THE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMMUNITY, THE EMS COMMUNITY RESIDENTS AND RIGHTFULLY SO, WOULD BE IRATE AT A PROPOSAL TO MOVE OUR DISPATCH TO ERIE COUNTY.
WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL POSITION IN THE DISPATCH OFFICE THIS YEAR BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING MORE WORK.
THEY'RE DOING SOPHISTICATED WORK.
I APPLAUD THE EFFORTS OF OUR DISPATCH, AND I'M SAYING THIS PUBLICLY, THEY ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
IT'S NOVEMBER 6TH, IT'S THE FIRST MONDAY IN NOVEMBER.
THE FIRST TUESDAY IS TOMORROW, AND THAT IS ELECTION DAY.
IT'S A TIME OF YEAR WHEN CANDIDATES AND THOSE SUPPORTING THEM BEGIN TO THROW WHATEVER THEY CAN FIND UP AGAINST THE WALL TO SEE WHAT WOULD STICK.
AND I WOULD CHARACTERIZE MR. T'S THOUGHT THAT WE WOULD THINK ABOUT MOVING DISPATCH TO ERIE COUNTY AS FALLING UNDER THAT CATEGORY.
THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS TONIGHT THAT ALSO FALL UNDER THAT CATEGORY TO ANSWER MR. T'S DEMAND FOR MY RESIGNATION.
I AM NOT GOING TO RESIGN THIS EVENING.
I RAN FOR THIS OFFICE IN 2021.
I WAS APPROACHED BY SOMEBODY WHO TOLD ME THAT FORMER MAYOR JT, WHO SPOKE HERE, WANTED TO THROW ME A CHICKEN BARBECUE.
AND HIS BAR ON BASE IS LOADED.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS A VERY GENEROUS OFFER.
THIS IS SOMEBODY THAT I WOULD LIKE ON MY SIDE.
I HAD SOMEBODY FROM MY CAMPAIGN REACH OUT TO MR. DET TO TAKE HIM UP ON THAT OFFER.
HIS RESPONSE WAS THAT HE WILL THROW ME A CHICKEN BARBECUE IF I, I GIVE HIS DAUGHTER A JOB IN THE BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS DEPARTMENT.
AT THAT POINT, I SAID, NO, THANK YOU, MR. JUT NOT HERE.
THAT IS NOT HOW DEFEND OPERATE.
HE INAPPROPRIATE CAME AND SPOKE AND HE LEFT.
I WANT HAMBURG TO KNOW THAT WHAT MAY HAVE HAPPENED, YOU'RE BEING POLITICAL 20, LIKE YOU SAID, ELECTION DAYS TOMORROW YOU'RE BEING POLITICAL AND THERE'S NO BUSINESS FOR THIS UNDER FLOOR.
WHAT MAY HAVE HAPPENED, 20 OR YOU IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG IS NOT ALLOWED ANYMORE.
PEOPLE ARE NOT ENTITLED TO THESE POSITIONS.
I UNDERSTAND MR. JEW'S CONCERN, BUT HE NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THINGS ARE DIFFERENT IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG AND THEY'RE GOING TO REMAIN DIFFERENT MOVING FORWARD.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADDRESS THE DECISION TO ELIMINATE THE THREE CLEANING POSITIONS FROM THE BUDGET.
THIS IS A RELATIVELY NEW POSITION IN THE TOWN OF HAMPER.
THIS IS ALSO REDUNDANT AS WE HAVE OTHER JOB TITLES THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR CLEANING.
PRIOR TO THE TOWN OF HAMBURG HIRING FULL-TIME CLEANERS, THERE WERE PART-TIME CLEANERS AND THERE WERE LABORERS WHO PERFORMED THAT FUNCTION.
I WILL ALLEGE THAT THE CREATION OF THOSE POSITIONS WAS FOR POLITICAL PATRONAGE.
ONLY THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, OUR BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS DEPARTMENT HAS COME UP WITH A PLAN TO CLEAN OUR BUILDINGS PROPERLY AND IN A TIMELY FASHION.
I'M CONFIDENT IN THE EMPLOYEES OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
I HAVE NO CONCERNS ABOUT THE ELIMINATION OF THESE THREE POSITIONS.
FROM AN OPERATIONAL STANDPOINT, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT LOSING A JOB IS DIFFICULT.
THERE IS NEVER A GOOD TIME TO LOSE A JOB.
AND MY HEART AND THOUGHTS GO OUT TO THE FOLKS WHO WILL BE LOSING THEIR JOBS IF THIS BUDGET PASSES.
AND I UNDERSTAND THERE'S PLENTY OF OTHER THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN PEOPLE'S LIVES.
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WITH MAKING DECISIONS IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE TAXPAYER.AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE PUT INTO THIS BUDGET BY RAISING TAXES FOR YOUR RAISES WHEN IT COMES TO THE, UM, OH, MR. MAHONEY, THERE'S A LOT HERE IN IN YOUR QUESTIONS.
SO THIS IS GONNA TAKE SOME TIME.
SO I MAY CALL ON SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES ON THE BOARD AS WELL AS SOME OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS TO RESPOND TO THESE ITEMS. UM, LEMME START WITH THE REIMBURSEMENT.
SO WHEN, WHEN, WHEN THESE DISASTERS HAPPEN, FEMA HAS, I MEAN, IT IS, THERE'S NO NEGOTIATION HERE.
THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT.
THE TOWN IS ON THE HOOK FOR 25% WHEN IT COMES TO THE RFP FOR THE CLOCK TOWER PROJECT.
THE TOWN WAS LOOKING FOR BUSINESSES TO DO WORK ON TOWN PROPERTY.
THE WORK THAT WAS DONE WAS TO BENEFIT TOWN PROPERTY.
NOW AGAIN, I REALIZE PEOPLE ARE THROWING STUFF UP AGAINST THE WALL TO SEE WHAT MIGHT STICK.
I UNDERSTAND MR. MAHONEY AND SOME FRIENDS AND ASSOCIATES OF YOURS HAVE CHARACTERIZED THAT THERE'S SOMETHING IMPROPER HAPPENING HERE.
I ALSO READ A, READ A RESOLUTION TONIGHT ABOUT SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY.
PEOPLE HAVE TAKEN THIS ISSUE AND TRIED TO MALIGN A SMALL BUSINESS THAT HAS BEEN IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR 74 YEARS.
IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS HAPPENED IN 2018.
THERE WAS A STORM THAT TOOK OUT THE CLOCK TOWER AND STARTED TO EAT AWAY AT THE PARKING LOT, SOME OF WHICH IS OWNED BY THE TOWN.
SOME OF IT IS OWNED BY NEW YORK STATE AND SOME OF IT IS OWNED BY HOAX.
THE TOWN IS TAKING CARE OF OUR PARKING LOT.
I CAN TELL YOU WHAT, THEY TAKE CARE OF THAT PARKING LOT EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
THEY CAN AND WILL PRODUCE ANY RECEIPTS FOR THE WORK THAT YOU ARE ALLEGING WAS DONE IMPROPERLY.
YOU SUBMITTED A FOIL REQUEST, YOU'VE GOTTEN RESPONSES, YOU'VE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH COUNCIL MEMBER FARRELL REZ, WHO HAS GONE TO OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE HER TO ADD TO THE RESPONSE IF SHE CHOOSES TO DO SO, BECAUSE I KNOW SHE WAS ABLE TO GET SOME INFORMATION FROM OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
I WAS ABLE, WHEN MR. MAHONEY, UM, CALLED ME ABOUT WHERE HE COULD GET THAT INFORMATION.
I, AS MY TYPICAL PRACTICE, I POINT RESIDENTS TO THE, UM, DEPARTMENT HEADS AS I DID IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE.
AND THAT'S PROBABLY ALL I CAN OFFER AS FAR AS INFORMATION, I KNOW CONVERSATION WITH THE DEPARTMENTS AFTERWARDS THAT SAID THAT THEY TOOK CARE OF, UM, HIS REQUEST AS THEY WOULD ANY OTHER RESIDENT WHO WOULD COME INTO THEIR DEPARTMENT.
AND I APPRECIATE THE RESPONSIVENESS OF OF THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY CONCERN ABOUT IMPROPER PRACTICES IN THIS PROJECT? I WOULD NOT WANNA COMMENT ON THAT BECAUSE I DID NOT REVIEW ANY OF THIS INFORMATION.
SO MY UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU HAVE, SO NO, I DID NOT.
CAN I JUST JUMP IN ON THE CLOCK TOWER BECAUSE I WILL CORRECT YOU ON ONE THING.
IT WAS 2019, I REMEMBER IT SPECIFICALLY.
'CAUSE IT WAS RIGHT AROUND THIS TIME.
UM, I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WERE ON THE BOARD AT THAT TIME, BUT PREVIOUS SUPERVISOR SHAW, UH, WENT TO THE MEDIA A BIT ABOUT THE DAMAGE THAT WAS DONE ON THE FOUNDATION WITH THAT CLOCK TOWER AND DISCUSSION STARTED WITH THAT BOARD AT THAT TIME.
UM, SEAN PRODY HAD, UH, TAKEN THE LEAD IN THE EFFORTS OF COORDINATING WITH FEMA.
UM, I KNOW HE WAS TRYING TO GET THINGS ADDRESSED IMMEDIATELY.
I THINK IT SEEMED TO KIND OF STICK WITH THE BOARD FOR A LITTLE BIT AS FAR AS GETTING THE REPAIRS DONE.
UM, AND OF COURSE WORKING WITH FEMA, WORKING WITH THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS, AS YOU KNOW, IS TIME CONSUMING.
UH, KEN WASN'T WITH US THEN, BUT I KNOW BETH WAS AT THE TIME.
UH, SEAN KARATE COULD SPEAK ABOUT IT MORE.
UM, AND THAT'S WHEN THAT PROCESS HAD STARTED IN 2019, UM, WITH THAT BOARD.
SO, UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, I I I WAS UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT YOU HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH MR. CASTELLI ABOUT, ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
I APOLOGIZE IF THAT WAS AN INCORRECT CHARACTERIZATION.
UM, HOWEVER, WE HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION ABOUT
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THIS ISSUE FOR SOME TIME.THIS AS COUNCIL MEMBER HOPE JUST MENTIONED, UH, WAS A PROJECT THAT I HAD INHERITED AS I ENTERED OFFICE.
THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT WAS BROUGHT TO MY DESK AND IT WAS BROUGHT BY, UH, A PREVIOUS EMPLOYEE OF THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
AND HE LAID OUT WHAT THE OPTIONS WERE TO FIX THE CLOCK TOWER AND PROTECT THE SHORELINE.
WHEN I SAY PROTECT THE SHORELINE, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE PART THAT WE OWN, THE PART THAT THE STATE OWNS AND THE PART THAT THE PRIVATE BUSINESS OWNS.
THE PREVIOUS EMPLOYEE FROM THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
IN CONSULTATION WITH OUR DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEY, MR. WALLING TOOK A LOOK AT ALL THOSE OPTIONS.
THERE'S ONE OPTION THAT WOULD FIX THE CLOCK TOWER AND PROBABLY PROTECT OUR PROPERTY PRETTY WELL.
THERE WAS ANOTHER OPTION THAT WOULD DEFINITELY PROTECT OUR PROPERTY AND WOULD ALSO PROTECT THE PROPERTY OF HO'S RESTAURANT.
THEY CAME TO ME, MR. LARDO AND MR. WALLING, AND SAID, WE FEEL EVEN THOUGH WE ARE NOT TOUCHING THE PROPERTY OF HO'S RESTAURANT, THEY WILL BENEFIT FROM THIS PROJECT IN THAT THEIR SHORELINE WILL BE BETTER PROTECTED.
THEY RECOMMENDED THAT HOAX LAKE SHORE RESTAURANT CONTRIBUTE TO THE COST OF THE PROJECT.
MR. WALLING NEGOTIATING WITH THE ATTORNEY FOR THE RESTAURANT, ARRIVED AT THE SUM OF $52,000 THAT THE BUSINESS HAD AGREED TO CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS THIS PROJECT.
NOW, I HAVE TALKED TO OTHER PEOPLE AND OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.
I'VE TALKED TO PEOPLE IN ENGINEERING THAT HAVE BEEN PART OF THESE PROGRAMS. I WASN'T PART OF THE NEGOTIATION, BUT I SHARED THE END RESULT.
AND WHEN I TALKED TO THESE OTHER PROFESSIONALS, THEY WERE QUITE SURPRISED THAT THE BUSINESS OWNER WAS CONTRIBUTING TO THE PROJECT AT ALL.
I APPLAUD MY SECOND COUSINS WHO OPERATE THE RESTAURANT ON STEPPING UP AND PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE OF THE PROJECT COST, BUT TO CONTINUE TO ALLEGE THAT THE TOWN IS PAVING THEIR PARKING LOT OR TO SIT IDLY BY AND NOT CORRECT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MAKING THAT ALLEGATION IS A DISSERVICE TO ONE OF THE LONGEST STANDING SMALL BUSINESSES IN OUR COMMUNITY.
I HOPE THAT AFTER TOMORROW THESE ALLEGATIONS CAN BE PUT TO REST FOREVER.
MR. CUSAK, ANYTHING TO ADD ON THE CLOCK TELL PROJECT? YEAH, I CAN, UH, 100% AGREE WITH THE FACT THAT NO, NO PRIVATE PAVING WAS COVERED BY THE TOWN.
THAT WAS ALL SEPARATELY, UH, DONE BETWEEN THE CONTRACTOR AND THE, THE RESIDENTS OF THAT.
YEAH, WE HAD INDEPENDENT THIRD PARTY, UH, INSPECTION DONE ON THAT.
JM DAVIDSON PROVIDED A LICENSE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER TO BE ON SITE, UM, TO INSPECT THAT BECAUSE WE KNEW THE PROPERTY LINE ISSUES THAT WERE THERE AND SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, MIGHT COME UP FROM IT.
BUT, UH, WE HAVE ALL THE PRE AND POST, UH, SITE PHOTOGRAPHS.
WE HAVE QUANTITIES, WE HAVE FIELD NOTES AND ALL KINDS OF, UM, OTHER DATA LIKE THAT TO SUPPORT THE FACT THAT ONLY THE MATERIALS DONE ON TOWN PROPERTY.
AND WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THE STATE DOT PARKING AREA.
SO THE TOWN DID HAVE TO COVER THAT.
UM, BUT THE LINE WAS CLEARLY MARKED BY THE SURVEYORS CONVERT EVERY ENGINEER, THIS IS WHERE WE STOPPED AND THEN HOPE NEGOTIATED PAVING AND WHATEVER THEY DID AFTER THAT, UM, EXPERT WAS ALL BETWEEN THEM.
WE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY MADE FOR IT.
I I DON'T KNOW THAT, UH, THE SUPERVISOR SAW THE EMAILS TODAY, BUT WE DID JUST GET THE EMAIL THAT FEMA HAS, UH, APPROVED OUR SUBMISSIONS.
SO WE'RE GETTING $980,000 BACK, UH, FOR THAT PROJECT.
WE JUST GOT THAT LETTER, UM, THIS AFTERNOON.
I DIDN'T MEAN TO STEAL, YOU KNOW, THAT ANNOUNCEMENT FROM YOU, BUT, UM, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'VE SEEN IT.
IT WAS REALLY LATE IN THE DAY.
SO, YEAH, I CAN SEE BOB, IF YOU WANNA COME IN, I'LL GO THROUGH ALL THE NOTES WITH YOU AND YOU CAN LOOK UP WHATEVER YOU WANT THAT I CAN MATHEMATICALLY APPROVE EVERYTHING THAT WAS PAID FOR BY THE PEOPLE.
SO HOPE THAT HELPS MY DOOR'S ALWAYS OPEN.
THE LEASE QUESTIONS SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT.
13 VEHICLES SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT.
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UM, WHO DOES THE MAINTENANCE? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.UM, WHAT, UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE, EVEN TOWN EMPLOYEES ARE CONFUSED WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LEASING PROGRAM THROUGH ENTERPRISE.
THIS IS NOT LIKE GOING TO WEST HER FORD AND LEASING A CAR.
THIS IS NOT STAYING UNDER 10,000 MILES.
THIS IS NOT RETURNING THAT CAR AND BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DAMAGE OR REPAIR AT THE END OF THE LEASE.
THIS IS AN EQUITY BASED LEASE.
THIS MEANS THAT WE ARE PURCHASING THE CARS OVER TIME.
SO THIS ALLOWS US TO INCREASE OUR FLEET QUICKER, TO BRING GREATER SAFETY AND FUEL EFFICIENCY TO OUR TOWN OPERATIONS.
I I, I THINK THAT I ANSWERED ALL YOUR QUESTIONS MR. MAHONEY, WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT I DIDN'T ANSWER? NO, I THINK YOU DID, MR. SUPERVISOR.
UM, AND JUST MY COMMENTS ON THE BUDGET.
OFTEN, OFTEN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG HAS PASSED THE BUDGET AT THE FIRST MEETING IN NOVEMBER, BUT THAT HASN'T ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE.
I THINK WHAT THE TOWN IS DOING, WHAT THE TOWN BOARD IS DOING, I MEAN, WE PROPOSED TO, OR THE SUPERVISOR'S BUDGET CARRY A 2.9% TAX INCREASE.
I THINK ANYBODY THAT'S BEEN PAYING ATTENTION HERE TODAY, OR EVEN READING THE NEWSPAPER ARTICLES CAN SEE THAT THERE'S TWO OPTIONS HERE.
WE'RE GONNA PASS IT AT 2.9 OR WE'RE GONNA PASS IT AT A LOWER INCREASE.
SO THE ALLEGATION THAT IT MIGHT BE POLITICAL OR WE WANNA AFTER ELECTION, I THINK IT'S FALSE.
I, I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE TONIGHT THAT NONE OF US ARE GONNA COME BACK TO YOU ON NOVEMBER 18TH WITH A HIGHER PROPOSAL.
AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES ON THE BOARD TO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, YOU'RE GONNA SEE A BUDGET THAT COMES IN AT 2.9% OR LOWER WHEN IT COMES TO THIS BUDGET.
THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PIECES, THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, PROJECTIONS OF REVENUE, THERE'S A LOT OF EXPENSES THAT GO INTO IT.
WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE TOO MANY RISKS.
I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE'S TEMPTATION TO ADD EXTRA JOBS TO ADD EXTRA EQUIPMENT.
I'VE TALKED TO DEPARTMENT HEADS WHAT IS THEIR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY TODAY IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THEIR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY WAS BEFORE.
TO SAY THAT WE'RE NOT ADDRESSING MR. HUGHES NUMBER ONE PRIORITY, I WOULD SAY THAT'S INACCURATE.
I WAS ABLE TO SIT DOWN WITH MR USES PRIOR TO SUBMITTING THE BUDGET TO FIND OUT WHAT HIS NUMBER ONE PRIORITIES WERE THEN.
AND HIS PRIORITIES ARE MAKING SURE HE HAS THE BODIES IN THE PLOWS TO PLOW THE ROAD.
THAT HE HAS ENOUGH MONEY TO PAVE THE STREETS.
WE INCREASED THE PAVING BUDGET BY $200,000 THIS YEAR.
SO WHILE THERE ARE NEW NUMBER ONE PRIORITIES, WE'VE GONE TO GREAT LENGTHS TO ADDRESS THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITIES OF ALL OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS.
AND I THINK THIS BUDGET REFLECTS THAT.
AND FINALLY, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ECHO, UM, YOU KNOW, MY COLLEAGUES WHO RECOGNIZE THAT, UH, SATURDAY IS VETERANS DAY AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF EVENTS, I BELIEVE THE LEGION POST EVENT BEGINS AT, UH, 10:45 AM.
UM, SO, UH, THERE'S THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS TO PARTICIPATE IN THOSE VERY IMPORTANT S RO I FORGOT YOU WENT ALL THE QUESTIONS.
UM, I DID ASK AT THE END, IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY THESE, THESE THREE EMPLOYEES TO BE RELOCATED? I THINK I ASKED THAT QUESTION.
IS THERE ANY OPENINGS WHERE THEY MIGHT ABLE TO RELOCATE SO THEY LOSE THEIR BENEFITS? OH, THE, THE CLEANERS? YES.
YEAH, WHEN YOU ASKED ME ALL MY QUESTIONS, THAT WOULD BE ONE.
SO WHAT THE TOWN WAS, I DUNNO, I DON'T KNOW THAT'S POSSIBLE, RIGHT? I JUST PUT IT OUT THERE.
IS IT POSSIBLE I, YOU DON'T NEED HERE IF THERE A POSSIBILITY THEY COULD BE SOME.
SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, BEFORE THE TOWN, BEFORE I WOULD MAKE A PROPOSAL SUCH AS THIS, WE RESEARCH THE POSSIBLE OUTCOMES.
SO, UM, THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT BUDGET SAVINGS.
I MEAN, WE ARE, WE'RE PAYING OUR CLEANERS, I BELIEVE, IN EXCESS OF $50,000 A YEAR.
AND WHEN YOU ADD ON THE FRINGE BENEFITS
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AT A RATE OF ABOUT 56%, WE'RE TALKING A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS FOR THESE THREE CLEANERS.SO WHILE IT WOULD BE GREAT TO BE ABLE TO TRANSFER THEM TO ANOTHER, WE'D STILL HAVE TO FIND A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS TO EMPLOY THESE INDIVIDUALS.
WE ALSO LOOKED INTO COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS.
SO UNDER THE CSEA WHITE COLLAR UNIT, WHICH IS WHERE THESE EMPLOYEES ARE CLASSIFIED, UM, THERE'S NO PROVISION FOR ANY BUMPING RIGHTS.
UM, IF THEY WERE IN DIFFERENT POSITIONS, PERHAPS THESE ARE NON-COMPETITIVE CIVIL SERVICE JOBS.
UM, SO IF THERE WERE OTHER FULL-TIME NON-COMPETITIVE CIVIL SERVICE JOBS THAT WERE OF, UH, A DIFFERENT SENIORITY LEVEL, YES, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO BUMP.
BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE WITH THESE THREE POSITIONS.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE FROM MY REPORT.
UM, I NORMALLY DON'T, NOT THE THIRD PERSON TO SAY A COMMENT TO MR. UCCI 'CAUSE I ECHO THE SE SENTIMENTS OF MY COLLEAGUE.
BUT I DO FEEL IT IS THAT IMPORTANT.
UM, AND, AND LIKEWISE, I PERSONALLY MET WITH, UH, THE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME, UH, FACE TO FACE AS WELL AS THROUGH PHONE CALLS.
UM, WE COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND, UH, AND EMPHASIZE WITH THEIR CONCERNS.
WE SHARE THOSE CONCERNS, THE SAME CONCERNS WE HAVE, UM, AS THE SUPERVISOR MENTIONED, UM, IT'S A LONG PROCESS.
UM, AND I WOULD JUST, UM, AS I HAVE TOLD THOSE RESIDENTS, I WOULD, UH, ENCOURAGE PEOPLE, UM, LIKE, UH, MR. BARCHI HAS TO, UH, BE VOCAL, COME OUT, UM, LET, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MAKING DECISIONS, UM, KNOW THEIR CONCERNS.
AND, UH, WE WILL WORK OUR BEST, UM, TO, UH, TO, TO CONTINUE TO, UM, PROMOTE PROJECTS THAT, UH, MAKE SENSE.
BUT, UM, ONLY BALANCE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE NEEDS AND THE CONCERNS THAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE.
UM, AND, AND THEY CERTAINLY HAVE VERY LEGITIMATE CONCERNS, UH, WITH THIS PROJECT.
I ALSO WANNA ECHO THE, UM, VETERAN'S DAY, UH, NOVEMBER 11TH, UH, THANKING ALL THOSE, UH, TOWN RESIDENTS THAT SERVED IN THE MILITARY, UH, FOR THE SERVICE.
AND ALSO FEEL, UH, IT'S NOT ONE DAY, IT'S EVERY DAY.
IT'S 24 7, UM, IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY'VE PROVIDED TO US AND, UH, THE RESPECT, ADMIRATION, UH, WE SHOULD HAVE NOT ONLY FOR THE VETERANS, BUT UH, THOSE THAT ARE SERVING NOW.
WAS IT, WELL, I, I'M LUCK WITH NO OTHER CHOICE THAN TO BE BRIEF
I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT THE CHIEF HAD SHARED.
CONGRATULATION ON THE, UH, ANTICIPATED ACCREDITATION.
I REMEMBER THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU BROUGHT UP, UM, WHEN YOU CAME INTO THE POSITION AS ONE OF YOUR TOP GOALS.
SO WAY TO GET IT DONE QUICKLY.
UM, I KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE.
UM, AND ALSO CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM ON THE HUNGER RETREAT.
UM, IT'S AN EXCELLENT EVENT TO BE PART OF.
IT KEEPS GETTING BIGGER AND BETTER.
WE HAD OVER 2300 PEOPLE, UH, REGISTERED TO ATTEND.
I THINK IT'S JUST GONNA GET BETTER EVERY YEAR.
UH, BUT THE LOGISTICS PART IS CHALLENGING AND THE CHIEF TAKES CARE OF THAT THEMSELVES.
UM, I GET A LOT OF GREAT FEEDBACK FROM PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT, THAT LOVE THE EVENT.
UH, IT IS NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH, UM, AND THE HAM COALITION FOR EQUITY INCLUSION HAD AN EVENT LAST WEEKEND OR THIS, THIS PAST SATURDAY.
UH, WE PARTNERED WITH VILLAGE ENGAGED AND UH, POSTED A DOCUMENTARY SCREENING TALKING ABOUT SOME, UM, SOME HISTORICAL EVENTS, UH, IN NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE REGARDING RESIDENTIAL SCHOOLS.
UM, SO WE HAD THE DOCUMENTARY SCREENING FOLLOWED BY A DISCUSSION.
IT WAS WONDERFUL TO SEE SO MANY NEW FACES OF THE COMMUNITY WHO WANTED TO PARTICIPATE UP NEXT, WE ARE PARTNERING WITH, UH, RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
WE ARE HOSTING A NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE EVENT.
UH, THIS EVENT'S GOING TO BE ON NOVEMBER 16TH FROM 6:00 PM TO 8:00 PM UM, THERE'S GONNA BE SOCIAL DANCES LED BY THE INDIGENOUS SPIRIT DANCERS.
THERE'S GONNA BE TRADITIONAL
UH, THE EVENTS THAT WE HAVE CO CO-HOSTED WITH THE REC DEPARTMENT HAVE BEEN A HUGE SUCCESS.
I THINK THE CAKEWALKS GONNA COST A DOLLAR TO PARTICIPATE, BUT OTHERWISE FREE.
AND, UH, JILL'S DONE A GREAT JOB OF GETTING A LOT OF, UM, MULTI-GENERATIONAL PARTICIPATION.
SO I JUST WANNA PUT THAT OUT THERE FOR ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO JOIN US ON THURSDAY 1116.
AND, UM, JUST WANNA ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF MY COLLEAGUES REGARDING VETERANS DAY.
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UM, AND THANK ANY THAT I KNOW WE HAD ONE THAT WHO IS PARTICIPATING WITH US TODAY IN THE CROWD.UM, BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
UM, IT'S IMPORTANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND PARTICIPATE IN THE EVENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY, UH, BUT ALSO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO REACH OUT DIRECTLY, UH, TO VES THEMSELVES ON ANY DAY THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, UH, TO ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR, THEIR SERVICE.
BEFORE ADJOURNING, I JUST NOTICED THAT MR IS HERE FROM PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCH.
DID YOU HAVE ANY REPORT THIS EVENING? NO, I'M SORRY.
I WAS AT THE FIRE, THE VILLAGE, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT.
SO IT JUST CLEARED THAT UP AND JUST CAME IN AND I THANK YOU.
UH, WE'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY SAYING AYE.