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ALRIGHT.I WAS BY THERE TODAY AT SIX 30 AND UH, I NEED TO DENNIS.
FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS 7 1 6 STORAGE, LLC REQUESTING SKETCH PLAN DIRECTION ON A PROPOSAL TO CONSTRUCT A 71,400 SQUARE FOOT SELF-STORAGE FACILITY ON VACANT LAND, LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWESTERN CORNER OF SOUTH PARK AVENUE AND SOUTHWESTERN BOULEVARD.
AND WE ALL KNOW THIS IS THE AREA NEXT TO THE CAR WASH THAT WE APPROVED NOT TOO LONG AGO, AND IT'S ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROPOSED, UH, PEOPLE INC.
FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING PROJECTS.
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HERE? YEAH.ISN'T THAT, IS THAT THE BAR RIGHT THERE? IT'S DOWN THE CORNER.
BRIAN BURKE GOT HER DEVELOPMENT.
YOU DON'T MIND ORIENTING US TO THAT? YEAH, NO, NO, NOT A PROBLEM AT ALL.
AND THIS BUILDING WILL CONSUME, UH, THE DOG DAYCARE HAPPENS TO BE OVER HERE, RIGHT? GOTCHA.
THE TOWN HOME TAVERN WILL REMAIN ON THE CORNER OVER HERE.
UH, SO THIS WOULD BE SOUTHWESTERN.
YOU'D HAVE, UH, THE RED APPLE MARKET DIRECTLY ACROSS, UH, RIGHT HERE.
AND OF COURSE THE CAR WASH, SITE DOG DAYCARE YOU GOT.
ICE CREAM WOULD BE RIGHT, RIGHT THERE.
ON THE OTHER SIDE OF BAKER, OTHER SIDE.
THEY STILL HAVE THE PETER K POLE SIGN ON SIDE.
SO BEFORE WE BEGIN, I'M GONNA LET EVERYONE INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, THE MEMBERS OF THE PROJECT TEAM.
OH, MARK BERT ONE OF THE PARTNERS ON THE PROJECT.
SO OBVIOUSLY WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH THIS SITE.
IT'S PART OF THAT 28 ACRE BUSINESS PARK THAT WE'VE HAD OTHER PROJECTS FOR.
AGAIN, THE PROJECT THAT YOU'RE MOST FAMILIAR WITH RECENTLY IS THE ROYAL WASH DIRECTLY NEXT DOOR.
IT IS SUBJECT TO A FINDING STATEMENT THAT WAS ISSUED BY THE TOWN BOARD WAY BACK IN, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT YEAR IT WAS, 2006, ZONED C TWO AS I INDICATED.
AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE IS AN ENCLOSED AND OBVIOUSLY ENCLOSED STORAGE FACILITY WITH THE SIZE OF SLIGHTLY MORE THAN 70,000 SQUARE FEET.
I DID PASS AROUND, WE DON'T HAVE FULL SIZE, BUT SOME CONCEPTUAL RENDERINGS.
UH, THE PROJECT TEAM HAS SPENT CONSIDERABLE TIME TO MAKING SURE THAT NOT ONLY FOR THE BURKE FAMILY, BUT ALSO IN TERMS OF THE FACILITY THEMSELVES, THEY WANTED TO LOOK QUITE NICE.
AND I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE COLOR RENDERINGS, IT REALLY DOES.
IN TERMS OF THE REVIEW PROCESS, OBVIOUSLY THIS WILL BE SUBJECT TO A COORDINATED ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW PURSUANT TO THE STATE ENVIRONMENTAL CALL OR REVIEW ACT, YOU, IT'S EXPECTED THAT YOU'LL BE THE LEAD AGENCY.
UM, IT IS AN UNLISTED ACTION PURSUANT TO SEEKER.
HOWEVER, WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK BACK AT THE FINDING STATEMENT.
AND AS DREW HAS INDICATED, AGAIN AND AGAIN, YOU HAVE SEVERAL OPTIONS.
YOU COULD ISSUE AN AMENDED FINDING STATEMENT.
YOU COULD ISSUE A NEGATIVE DECLARATION.
YOU COULD DO SOMETHING WE DON'T THINK IS WARRANTED ISSUE A POSITIVE DECLARATION REQUIRING THE PREPARATION OF A SUPPLEMENTAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT.
WE THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THAT IN TERMS OF ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS, CERTAINLY FROM A TRAFFIC PERSPECTIVE, UM, IT'S NOT GONNA GENERATE A LOT OF TRAFFIC.
AND THEN SECOND OF ALL, USUALLY THE CONCERN WITH THIS TYPE OF BUILDING IS THE MASSING SCALE AND APPEARANCE.
AND I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE COLOR RENDERINGS, THERE'S REALLY AN EFFORT BEING MADE TO MAKE SURE THIS BUILDING WILL LOOK NICE ALONG THE FRONTAGE.
OBVIOUSLY IT WILL BE SUBJECT TO TECHNICAL REVIEW IN TERMS OF LIGHTING, STORM WATER MANAGEMENT, ADEQUACY OF PARKING SPACES, LANDSCAPING, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
SO BEFORE WE PROCEED DOWN THAT PATH, WE WANTED TO COME IN, PRESENT THIS PROJECT INFORMALLY.
WE'D ASK YOU TO DO AS ONLY ONE THING TONIGHT, UM, AUTHORIZE THE PLAN DEPARTMENT TO COMMENCE THE COORDINATED ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW PURSUANT TO SEEKER.
THEN OF COURSE WE'LL SUBMIT EAF COPIES OF PLANS AND BE BACK AT A FUTURE MEETING.
BEFORE WE DID THAT, TAKE THIS PROJECT TOO FAR DOWN THE ROAD, WE DID WANT TO COME IN, SOLICIT ANY INPUT AND SEE WHAT ANY OF THE MEMBERS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT IT.
I'VE ARROWS THIS WAY, THIS GOES HERE.
WHERE DOES THIS ROAD ACTUALLY START? SO THE QUESTION IS, RIGHT, SO IT APPEARS WE'RE PROPOSING ONE WAY ACCESS AFTER RILEY.
WELL, I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TWO WAY ACCESS.
THE QUE THE QUESTION IS WHERE DOES THE TWO-WAY TRANSITION TO ONE WAY? UH, THIS, I THINK WE WERE GONNA TRY TO PURSUE TWO WAY HERE THOUGH, ACTUALLY.
I THINK WE HAD THE ERRORS UPDATED ON THIS PLAN.
SO IDEALLY WE WOULD POTENTIALLY PRODUCE TWO-WAY HERE WITH THE THOUGHT BEING THAT IT'S AN EASIER OUT HERE.
THIS IS, IT GETS PRETTY BUSY COMING OUT, IT DOES HERE.
SO WE'D LIKE TO TRY TO TRY TO FUNNEL FOLKS OUT TO MAKE AN EASY RIGHT.
SO I THINK WHAT WE'LL LOOK AT THAT IS MAKING THAT TWO-WAY, AND I, AND I AGREE WITH THAT.
I THINK THAT'S A BETTER, BETTER WAY TO ENCOURAGE TRAFFIC THAT DIRECTION OR ORIGINALLY IT WAS ONE WAY, BUT AS WE WENT TO TRUST, AND WE SHOULD PROBABLY LOOKED IT BOTH PLACES.
AND THEN I'LL TAKE IT OBVIOUSLY OFF THE STATE HIGHWAY, SEAN AND EF YOU IDENTIFIED AGAIN TRIP GENERATOR.
WE NOT ALLOWED, BUT YOU IDENTIFI WE'LL, YES, WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T SUBMITTED THAT, BUT YES, WE WILL.
SO THE OTHER JUST IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE IS THAT THERE'S NO OUTDOOR STORAGE AND THE BUILDING IS NOT OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.
BOTH OF THOSE WOULD REQUIRE, ESPECIALLY, ESPECIALLY FOR A, OF THE FINDINGS, RIGHT? THERE HAS BEEN AN INTERPRETATION BY THE, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, AND I AGREE WITH THAT, THAT IN THE FINDINGS, THEY EXCLUDE WAREHOUSES.
THIS IS NOT A WAREHOUSE, THIS IS A STORAGE,
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WHICH IS ALLOWED UNDER THE NEW LAW.AS LONG AS IT'S NOT MINI STORAGE, IT'S FULL SCALE BUILDING.
AND ACTUALLY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE C TWO ZONING DISTRICT, IT IS A SEPARATE CATEGORY FROM WAREHOUSE.
SO IS RILEY BOULEVARD A TOWN ROAD? MM-HMM.
AND I BELIEVE THE BURKE FAMILY INSTALLED RILEY.
WE, WE MADE THE IMPROVEMENT, WE DONATED THE ROAD TO MATTEL.
IT WAS DEDICATED, IT WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL OVERALL PROJECT ALONG WITH, WHAT WAS THE SPER, THE SENIOR CENTER RIGHT.
DONATED THAT PROPERTY AS WELL.
SO I MEAN, THE NICE THING IS PORTIONS OF THESE TWO SITES, THE BURKE SITES HAVE SAT VACANT FOR A LONG TIME AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE FINALLY BRINGING SOME PROJECTS TO ION, WHICH I THINK OVERALL FROM THE TOWN'S PERSPECTIVE IS A GOOD THING.
I DO THINK IT'S RELATIVELY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
I'LL SUPPLY A COPY TO THE FINDING BOARD OF A BLANK FINDINGS FORM.
SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE EA APP, BUT YOU CAN ALSO, WE'LL DO THE REVIEW.
BUT YOU, LIKE I SAID, YOU HAVE ONE OF THOSE THREE CHOICES.
YOU JUST DETERMINE IT'S IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FINDINGS AND SAY IT'S FINE.
OR ISSUE A
I, I THINK WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS, IS WE'VE BEEN ISSUING OUR OWN DECLARATION, BUT WE LOOK AT THE PREVIOUS REFER TO THE RIGHT.
BECAUSE THE DOCUMENT GETS OLD, LIKE THE BRIAR WOULD ONE TOO.
I I THINK THAT'S A PREFERRED COURSE OF ACTION FOR RECORD KEEPING.
IS THE ACTUAL ISSUE AN AMENDED SECRET DETERMINATION? SO I THINK FROM A CUMULATIVE PERSPECTIVE, THIS IS NOW LIKE THE THIRD OR FOURTH PROJECT RECENTLY MM-HMM
DID THE TOWN EVER MAKE A DECISION ABOUT THE PEOPLE IN THAT WAS ON THE RECENT TOWN BOARD MEETING?
OH, THEY HAVEN THEY HAVEN'T EVEN FINISHED THE PUBLIC HEARING YET ON THAT.
YOU MEAN THE, UH, WORKFORCE SALARY? YEAH.
NO, THEY, THEY'RE CONTINUING A PUBLIC HEARING ON MONDAY.
NOW THERE'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE WAREHOUSES ON THIS ACCORDING TO THOSE ORIGINAL FINDINGS.
I THINK WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THAT IN THE PAST.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE, I BROUGHT THE ACTUAL SECTION OF THE CODE.
IF YOU LOOK AT 2 80, 81 A WAREHOUSES CARE CATEGORY 2 80, 81 A SEVEN, AND THEN THIS FALLS INTO CATEGORY 16, PRIVATE RENTAL STORAGE.
AGAIN, AS LONG AS IT'S A FULL SCALE BUILDING INTERIOR.
SO THE CODE CLEARLY DOES DISTINGUISH IT'S PRE, PRE QUESTION OR AFTER QUESTION, BUT HOW MANY UNITS, WHAT SIZES, MARK, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT WE'RE THINKING IN TERMS OF THAT? YEAH, SO BEFORE WE GOT HERE, WE, UH, INITIATED A QUICK MARKET STUDY WITH A NATIONAL FIRM THAT DOES THIS.
SO WE'D HAVE SOME KIND OF GUIDANCE ON THAT.
UM, THE UNIT MIXES IS STILL BEING DETERMINED, BUT IT'LL PROBABLY BE ABOUT FOUR 50 UNITS INTERIOR RANGING IN SIZE FROM FIVE BY FIVE TO 10 BY 20.
DO WE HAVE A LANDSCAPING PLAN? NO, NOT YET.
AGAIN, THIS IS LITERALLY MEANT TO BE SKETCH PLAN, REVIEW, EXCUSE.
YOU ALL HAVE A LANDSCAPE PLAN.
SO THAT WOULD BE ONE THING YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE CALIN AS A LANDSCAPE.
I MEAN, AND THIS IS FRONTAGE ON TWO, TWO ROADS.
SO A ROBUST LANDSCAPING PLAN TO IMPROVE UPON IT AND MAKE IT, IT'S ACTUALLY ON THREE ROADS.
THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE, WE SPENT A LITTLE BIT OF TIME ON THE, ON THE RENDERING IS WE DIDN'T WANNA JUST PROPOSE A METAL BUILDING HERE.
YOU'LL SEE WE SPENT SOME TIME WITH LIGHTING.
WE SPENT SOME TIME WITH DIFFERENT MATERIALS ON THE BUILDING.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE'LL DRIVE PAST THIS ONE.
PROUD OF IT EXCEPT THE TOWN WE'RE PROUD OF AS WELL.
SO, BUT WE'LL MAKE SURE WE PROVIDE A ROBUST LANDSCAPING PLAN.
A LOT, LOT OF SPACE FOR LANDSCAPING IN SOUTH PARK AND BAYVIEW THERE.
I THINK IT'LL BE A, UH, A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT TO WHAT IS CURRENTLY THERE.
AND, UH, WE UH, WE PLAN ON HAVING DIAGRAM FIX.
AND I, I ACTUALLY THINK THAT WOULD BE THE NICEST LOOKING SELF STORAGE BUILDING IN WESTERN NEW YORK.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING QUITE THIS NICE RIGHT NOW.
I KNOW, I ASSUME THAT'S GONNA BE A DRY POND OUT FRONT.
YEAH, IT WOULD BE A, I'M SURE CHRIS SAY IT'S A DRY POND THAT'S DESIGNED TO BE MAINTAINED.
CAM, I'M JUST MORE ON THE ISSUE OF AESTHETIC SOMETIMES OBVIOUSLY WE'LL REQUIRE PREPARATION WITH SW WE'RE WAY OVER AN ACRE.
AND I DO WANNA NOTE, EVEN THOUGH THIS PARTICULAR ACTION ONE CLASS CROSS ANY THRESHOLD SET FORTH IN SIX NYCR SIX, 17.4 FOR A TYPE ONE, BECAUSE IT'S PART OF A FINDING STATEMENT, WE'RE GONNA DO PART ONE.
SO WITH THE REMOVAL OF THE DOG WASH, THE DOG DAYCARE AND GROOMING PLACE, WHAT'S THIS AREA THAT'S CURRENTLY IMPERVIOUS SURFACE, IS THAT GONNA BE CONVERTED BACK TO GRASS AND PERIA SURFACE? YEAH, IT'LL NEED TO BE, YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE OUTLINE THERE.
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ANYTHING ELSE? WOULD THE GOAL BE TO START THIS PROJECT SPRING? WHAT ARE, I MEAN IF WE, UNDER AN IDEAL SCENARIO, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA? YEAH, I THINK AN IDEAL SCENARIO.YEAH, I'D LIKE TO SEE ERIC'S
SO I'LL JUST WAIT FOR YOU TO GET ME THE STUFF AND I'LL, YEAH.
SO WHAT I THINK WE'LL SUBMIT IS PART ONE OF THE AF THE PLAN.
AND WE'RE GONNA TAKE A LOOK AT THE CHRIS'S CURRENT PLAN ONLY SHOWS ONE WAY ACCESS ONTO RILEY, A LANDSCAPE PLAN.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT AS PART OF THAT PRELIMINARY SUBMISSION FOR GETTING UNDER SECRET? MAYBE A LIGHTING PLAN.
BUT YEAH, GETTING THE ROAD UPDATED TO GO OUT.
WE WILL, I ALSO WANT US TO AUTHORIZE TO COURT.
I'LL DO IT WHENEVER I'M, WHENEVER I GET THE STUFF FROM THAT.
WHAT ARE THE OVERSIZED PARKING SPACES FOR MARK? ANY IDEA ON OVERSIZED PARKING STORES? HOPEFULLY YOU'RE NOT, I KNOW, I THINK WE HAD KIND OF A RANDOM SPOT ON THE SITE THERE.
THEY'RE LARGE OVERSIZED PARKING SPACES, BUT ARE WE THINKING OUTDOOR STORAGE OR NOT? AND THE ONLY REASON WE SAY MARK IS BECAUSE IF YOU WERE, WE NEED A SPECIAL USE, WHICH IS A WHOLE SEPARATE PROCESS.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S SPACE FOR OUTDOOR STORAGE.
WELL, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF SPACE, BUT THERE'S A LITTLE BIT THE, THE BUSINESS MODEL IS BUILT OFF OF THE INTERIOR STORAGE.
THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GONNA BE STORAGE OF LIKE RVS.
DOES THE FINDING STATEMENT ALLOW OUTDOOR STORAGE OR NOT? BECAUSE IF IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T.
THAT'S NOT GONNA GET US THERE.
I WOULD'VE TO LOOK, I HAVE IT STORAGE IS GONNA A LOT MORE QUESTIONS THAN JUST RIGHT.
I DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS ANY, BUT I GUESS, I MEAN IS IT PARKING FOR MOVING TRUCKS, LIKE DROPPING OFF BOXES? WELL, WE WOULD'VE THAT YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
I MEAN, YOU'RE GONNA THAT PULL THROUGH WITH THE TWO BAYS WITH DOORS, SO IT'S EASY.
SO, SO I GUESS ON OUTDOOR STORAGE, LET US DISCUSS IT INTERNALLY, BUT I THINK THE GOAL WOULD BE TO TRY AND AVOID THAT IF IT'S GONNA ADD TO THE REVIEW PROCESS CRITICAL SPACE THERE.
WHICH WE CAN, WE PROBABLY STILL, WE STILL WOULD LEAVE SOME OVERSIGHT SPACES THOUGH A MOTION THAT WE, UH, AUTHORIZED THE BOARD TO, UH, HAVE MOVE FORWARD.
ALRIGHT, SO IT'S A MOTION BY BOB.
AUTHOR AUTHORIZED I KNOW WHAT YOU NEED.
THANKS EVERYONE HAVE A GREAT EVENING FIRST.
ALRIGHT, NEXT UP IS CLEAN FIBER.
NEXT UP IS CLEAN FIBER REQUESTING SITE PLAN APPROVAL OF A PROPOSAL TO CONSTRUCT A 5,250 SQUARE FOOT ADDITION TO THE EXISTING BUILDING AT 250 LAKE AVENUE.
THIS IS CHRIS FROM CALLBACKS TO GEORGE
SO YEAH, WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO 5,250 SQUARE FOOT PRE-ENGINEERED METAL BUILDING A TO OFF THE FRONT FOR THE NORTH ELEVATION OF THE EXISTING FACILITY.
YEAH, SO WE'VE GOT A VERY LARGE FACILITY.
ON LAKE AND IT'S 41 FEET TALL.
WE ARE GONNA PUT A 70 BY 75 BY 73 SIDED SLANTED ROOF BACK TO THE GUTTER AT THE NORTH ELEVATION.
HAVE ONE OVERHEAD DOOR ON THE FRONT, ONE OVERHEAD DOOR ON THE WEST, EMPTY BUILDING.
IT'S GOT A BIG PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT GOES IN THERE.
SO THIS IS LIKE AVENUE PLACE THOUGH? YEP.
I WAS LIKE, NO, NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT, BECAUSE THERE IS A TWO 50 LAKE IN THE VILLAGE.
THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT IN THE FRONT.
NO, NO, IT'S NOT ZE, IT'S BLAZE IT THE VILLAGE OF BLAZE.
YEAH, BUT WE'RE GONNA TREAT IT LIKE IT'S IN THE TOWN.
WE, IT USED TO BE SUPERIOR PAL.
AND THEN CLEAN FIBER TOOK IT OVER AND UH, THEY'RE DOING THEIR THING AND THEY'VE GOT, UH, UH, A NECESSITY TO, UH, HOUSE A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.
AND THAT'S WHAT THIS WILL BE FACILITATED FOR.
SO IT'S, IT'S JUST AN, AN ADDITION IN AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE.
THEY DON'T NEED ANY VARIANCES.
UM, I WAS THINKING WE COULD SCHEDULE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THEM RENDERING LIKE COLOR RENDERINGS THAT WE CAN MAKE AS PART OF THE FINAL, UH, DOCUMENTS.
SO THAT WAY WE KNOW THE ADDITION'S GONNA MATCH THE EXISTING BUILDING COLORED ELEVATIONS AS OPPOSED TO RENDERING SAND ABOUT EITHER, EITHER WAY.
IT'S GONNA MATCH THE PATIENT OUT THE EXISTING OFFICE AND THEY, AND BASED ON PROOF OF IT.
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I WILL PROVE IT.YEAH, WHAT WE ACTUALLY HAD HAPPEN ONCE SOMEBODY GAVE US BLACK AND WHITE PICTURES.
SO, AND THEN THE ADDITION WAS BLACK AND WHITE ONTO A BUILDING THAT WAS COLOR.
OH REALLY? AND SO, SO SINCE THEN WE WANT COLOR DRAWINGS AND WE CAN PUT IT AT THIS.
THE BUILDING WAS BUILT IN 1950 AND, AND THE SIDING AND THE PATCHWORK OF REPAIRS AND PAINT AND, AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S, WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT LOOK A LOT NICER.
ALRIGHT, SO IF I'M LOOKING AT THIS MAP, CAN YOU POINT TO ME WHICH SIDE OF THE BUILDING IT'S GOING OFF.
WHERE AM I? THERE'S LAKE STREET.
THERE'S, UH, LAKE, HERE'S CLEAN FIBER RIGHT HERE.
AND SEE THE LITTLE, THAT'S THE ADDITION RIGHT THERE.
THAT'S FROM IT'S RIGHT, THIS, SORRY, SORRY.
WHERE'S OUR OFFICE POP UP HERE.
SO LAKE AVENUE, YOU PULL RIGHT IN.
AND SO YOU'RE GONNA PUT IT, SO IS IT VISIBLE FROM LAKE AVENUE? THE ADDITION? YEAH.
SO I THINK WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO, UM, MAKE IT LOOK NICE.
I MEAN, SOME PEOPLE PUT LIKE BOW WINDOWS AND STUFF ON THE FRONT OR A DOOR OR SOMETHING.
UH, THERE IS AN OVERHEAD DOOR ON THE FRONT WITH A MAN DOOR.
THIS IS ON A, THIS, THIS BUILDING IS, UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT A PRETTY BUILDING.
OUR ADDITION IS GONNA BE BEAUTIFUL, BRAND NEW, CRISP AND CLEAN.
NOW, WHEN YOU MOVE OVER TO THE WEST, THERE IS A NICE OFFICE THAT HAS A MASONRY, UH, MASONRY, LOT OF GLASS A DRIVE IT FACADE SO THAT, THAT, THAT FACADE, WHICH IS LIKE, WE CALL IT A SANDSTONE, A LIGHT TAN.
WE'LL, WE'LL BRING THAT OVER AND, AND TIE THAT IN WITH THE ADDITION.
BUT, UM, IT'S, WHEN IT'S INDUSTRIAL, IT'S VERY INDUSTRIAL, RIGHT? YEAH.
YOU KNOW, SO REPUBLIC STEEL USED TO USE THIS AS A TRAINING ENGINE REPAIRING SHOP.
SO IT'S, IT'S ABOUT AS UN APPEALABLE BUILDING AS POSSIBLY AS YOU COULD POSSIBLY IMAGINE.
AND IT'S GOING ON ON A IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.
AND IT'S JUST GONNA KIND OF BE A LITTLE BACK, JUST A LITTLE DAMAGE.
IF WE CAN JUST EXPLAIN, SO IT, WE'RE FOLLOWING THE ZONING FOR THE SITE, BUT WE'RE USING THE TOWN OF HAMBURG PROCESSES TO APPROVE IT.
AND THE, IN THE ZONING CODE, THEY HAVE TWO TABLES.
IF YOU GO, YOU CAN LOOK ON THE VILLAGE OF BLAZEDALE.
THEY HAVE THE USE THING, THIS IS ALLOWED USE.
AND THEN THEY ALSO HAVE, UM, BULK REQUIREMENTS, SETBACKS AND STUFF.
AND THEN THEY HAVE A THIRD THING WHICH THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A PROBLEM WITH.
THE VILLAGE ALSO HAS PERFORMANCE STANDARDS FOR INDUSTRIAL USES AND WHATEVER.
IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, NO LOUD SOUNDS, VIBRATIONS, RADIOACTIVITY, NO RADIO ACTIVITY, NO TOXIC OR NOXIOUS MATTER.
NO GLARE ONTO ADJOINING PROPERTIES.
UH, DUST AND FLY ASH SMOKE, THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT THAT'S, I'LL JUST GIVE THAT TO SARAH.
THAT'S, IF YOU LOOK IN THEIR CODE, THOSE ARE ONLY THINGS THAT WE GO, THEY DON'T HAVE A SITE PLAN SECTION.
THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, THEY JUST HAVE ZONING AND PERFORMANCE COPY THAT I'LL GET.
WE ALSO FILED A, UM, SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT FACILITY PERMIT MODIFICATION WITH DC AS WELL, SO THAT, THAT GOVERNS WHAT WE DO ON OUR SITE AS WE ARE RECYCLING.
UM, IS THIS A BIG ENOUGH TRUCTURE? WE'LL, TRUCTURE EMAIL, WE'LL EMAIL THOSE THREE SECTIONS OF THE LAW.
YEAH, YOU STILL ON THE FRONT? I DON'T THINK THAT THE BLAZED OF CODE IS REQUIRING THAT IN THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS.
I MEAN, IT'S BEEN A LITTLE WHILE SINCE WE HAD, WE HAD THAT INDUSTRIAL PROJECT A FEW MONTHS AGO AND I THINK THAT CAME UP.
THAT WAS IN A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
YEAH, REMEMBER? YEAH, THAT WAS, I LOOKED IT UP.
BUT IT WAS AN EXISTING INDUSTRIAL IN A RESIDENTIAL, LIKE A USE VARIANCE FROM THE, I DON'T WANT TO SEE WHAT WE DID ON THE ONLY ANOTHER VILLAGE PROJECT.
SO IT WASN'T APPLICABLE BECAUSE IT WAS A USE VARIANCE.
WE CAN, IN A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, DID YOU SEE THERE SOME SPACE OR SOME TREES THERE? TREES
THERE'S ONE IN THE PICTURE ON THE PROPERTY.
ON THE PROPERTY LINE BY THE ROAD, BY THE, BY THE, SO THAT'S, SO THAT SPACE IS GONNA RIGHT? YEAH.
IT'S, WE'RE LOOK, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE STREET VIEW.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE RIGHT, I CAN READ THE SIGN CLEAN FIBER.
THIS WILL HAVE A MASONRY COAT.
THAT'S EXTRA, THAT'S A VERY PRACTICAL TRUCKS NOT DAMAGING OUR SITE.
IS THERE A STATIC BUMPER? WE'RE GONNA GET YOU THERE.
YOU SAID IT WAS LIKE PUBLIC STEEL STORAGE AREA OR SOMETHING? WELL, I, WHERE THEY, I BELIEVE THEY, THEY, UH, MANAGED UH, UH, TRAIN ENGINES.
SO THERE'S ACTUALLY, THERE'S ACTUALLY A COUPLE OF OLD, UH, TRANSFERS ACTUALLY GO INTO A COUPLE OF THE OLD BAYS THERE AND THERE'S TWO 20 TON BRIDGE GREENS THAT SIT OVER IT, WHICH IS,
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YEAH.SO ACTUALLY IT WAS NEAR THE OLD BAR MILL AREA.
REMEMBER WHEN WE DID SSO DEVELOPMENT? YES.
THEY, THE OTHER THING MADE LIKE BACKUP UP TO THAT.
SO I THINK THERE'S ANY CHANGES TO EXTERIOR LIGHTING.
EXTERIOR LIGHTING, IF YOU'RE GONNA DO ANY NEW, YEAH, I'VE GOT A WALL PACK ON THE NORTH ELEVATION OVER THE OVERHEAD DOOR.
AND THEN THERE'S A WALL PACK ON THE, THERE MIGHT BE ONE ON, ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDE, JUST, JUST, YOU KNOW, BUT THEY'LL BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE DARK SKY COMPLIANT.
HUH? THOSE DARK SKY COMPLIANCE.
IS THAT THE RULE FOR BLAZEDALE? YEAH.
NO GLARE OFF INTO THE OTHER INDUSTRIAL AREAS.
NO, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S QUITE A WAYS BACK.
I KNOW THAT THERE'LL BE PROBABLY 75 WA OF IN COMPLIANCE OVER THE DOWN.
CAN YOU SEE THE FRONT ELEVATION FROM YOUR DRAWING OR THE NORTH ELEVATION FROM LOOK WHAT YOU SEE FROM THE STREET.
THERE'S A LARGE UH, UH, THERE'S A LARGE OVERHEAD DOOR, MAYBE A 14 BY 16 OVERHEAD DOOR, THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING OPPOSITE OF THE, OF THE, UM, OFFICE.
AND THEN OUR PROPOSED ADDITION IS GOING RIGHT ADJACENT TO THAT.
BUT THAT'S LIKE OUR TOTAL LOT.
THERE IS SEVEN ACRES AND WE'RE WAY ON THE BACK END.
SO WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR CLEAN FIBER ON OCTOBER 19TH.
SO THAT'S A MOTION BY BILL, SECOND BY DENNIS.
DO YOU WANNA AUTHORIZE US TO DO RESOLUTIONS IN CASE? YEAH.
DO WE NEED A, IS THIS FIVE TYPE TWO ACTION? MM-HMM.
SO WE'LL NEED TO DO A SHORT YEAH.
AND THERE'S NO, THAT'S ALREADY PAGED WHERE YOU'RE PUTTING THE BUILDING, RIGHT? NO NEW APP SURFACE.
THERE'S AN ASPHALT PAD THERE TODAY WE BUSTED OUT CONCRETE FOUNDATION FOR THE BUILDING.
SO SARAH, ADDRESS SOLUTION IF YOU OR I WORK ON THEM TECHNICALLY, YOU KNOW, THE VILLAGE DOESN'T HAVE VIDEO TO SAY APPROVAL AND RECOMMEND ISSUING OF THE BUILDING PERMIT.
THAT'S TECHNICALLY WHAT THE CODE SAYS.
THE ESSENCE WE'VE GOT BUILD HIT THE GROUND ABOUT.
IS THIS ALL THE TABLES THAT ARE SUPER SQUEAKY TODAY? YEAH.
I THINK THAT WAS BAD FOR SOME REASON IT'S REALLY BAD.
LIKE, WHERE'S MY WD 40 TABLE SCREEN? I DON'T THINK IT'S THIS ONE.
I HEAR ONE FROM OVER HERE AND ONE FROM OVER HERE.
AND IT WAS FROM BEFORE CAMMY GOT HERE.
SO IT'S NOT, I'M HEARING IT FROM THINGS GUYS.
YEAH, NOW I, NOW IT'S BACK ON.
DO YOU NEED THIS ONE TOO? THANK YOU.
MY REALLY? BUT IT'S THE OUTSIDE THE EXPERIENCE AND IT'S FACING, FACING THAT THIS OH, YOU GONNA THIS ONE TOO?
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WELL, LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU GET AND WHAT YOU HAVE LEFT.AND WE MIGHT TAKE, LEMME THERE'S YOU WANT, BUT THERE'S A DOGWOOD ON THERE.
LEMME CONSULT WITH THE UH, MY, MY PARTNER IN A TREE ORGANIZATION AND WE GOT AN ELEMENT.
AND WE GOT A, AN OAK THAT WE REMOVED FROM OUR FRONT SHOULDA GOT COME BEAR ROOF.
WE DUG IT UP BECAUSE IT'S GONNA OAK.
IT WAS GONNA MAKE IT, IT WAS LIKE INTERTWINED IN LIKE AN ARBOR.
SO IT HOT FOR I DON'T THINK YOU SURE.
YOU KNOW THESE ARE TAKE A BUSH.
I KNOW YOU, YOU'LL BETWEEN YOU AND MAHONEY, YOU GOT A LOT OF LAND.
WHAT? LOOK AT YOU IN A FULL SUIT.
BUT IF I GIVE YOUR HEAD, THAT MEANS YOU HAVE VOLUNTEER.
WE'LL WAIT TO START THE REGULAR.
SO THAT'S NOT WHERE I'M HEARING THAT'S CAN THOSE OUT? I THOUGHT SAYING THEY'RE SAYING IT SHOULD BE DONE TO A WEDDING PLAYLIST WHEN THAT GOES IN.
AND IF I DON'T LIKE, BECAUSE IT COMES OVER ACROSS.
WELL I'M GONNA SEND A OUT TO THE TOWN.
I WANT THUMBS UP, THUMBS DOWN I HEAR.
THERE'S A BEAUTIFUL FACILITY TO INTO.
IT'S TRUE, BUT IT'S A FUN STORY.
THIS IS JUST A MORE DETAILED ANALYSIS.
MAKE SURE THAT THEY ADDRESS IT.
THE WHOLE JOB WAS, I GO TO SUSHI.
IT'S IN THE, UM, SO MAIN STREET.
IT'S LIKE LIVING THE OPPOSITE CORNER OF LIBERTY BUILDING, BUT FACING, UH, MAIN STREET BEFORE YOU GOTTA, IS ORIGINAL HALL BEHIND YOU? I THINK MY FAVORITE SEVEN.
WELCOME TO THE SEPTEMBER 21ST MEETING.
PLEASE RISE FROM PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
STILL, JUST IN CASE YOU WANNA BALANCE
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TABLES HERE FOR, ALL RIGHT.SO SINATRA AND CO REAL ESTATE HAS REQUESTED TO BE TABLED.
THEY'RE GONNA BE BACK ON OCTOBER 19TH.
AND, UH, CHUCK B RAN INTO A SLIGHT ISSUE.
THEY HAVE TO GO FRONT THE ZONING BOARD.
THEY'RE GONNA BE IN FRONT OF THE ZONING BOARD ON OCTOBER 4TH.
SO THEY'LL BE BACK HERE ON OCTOBER 5TH.
SO NEITHER OF THOSE ARE GONNA BE HEARD TODAY, SO WE'LL GIVE EVERYBODY A FEW MINUTES.
FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
RAY MEYERS REQUESTING PRELIMINARY APPROVAL OF THE TWO LAST SUBDIVISION LOCATED AT 5 1 5 0 ABBOTT ROAD.
SO THIS IS, THE REQUEST IS IT'S JUST A TWO LOT SUBDIVISION.
IT DOESN'T NEED ANY VARIANCES, DOESN'T NEED ANYTHING WE'VE HAD AT A FEW TIMES.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? NOTICE, NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN THAT THE TOWN OF HAMBURG PLANNING BOARD WILL CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING ON A TWO MONTH SUBDIVISION PROPOSED BY THE GRAVE MINERS TO BE LOCATED 5 1 5 0 AT ROAD PUBLIC HEARING WILL HELD ON SEPTEMBER 21ST, 2022 7:00 PM SEVEN B HAMBURG TOWN HALL.
ALRIGHT, AT THIS TIME I'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE MEYER SUBDIVISION.
DOES ANYONE HERE THAT HAS ANY COMMENTS ON THAT PROJECT, UH, FOR THE SECOND TIME? ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST THE MYERS SUBDIVISION THIRD AND FINAL TIME? ANY COMMENTS ON THE SUBDIVISION BEING NO COMMENTS? I WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE DO HAVE DRAFT RESOLUTIONS PREPARED, SO UNLESS THERE'S ANY ISSUES, CAN WE JUST QUICKLY RUN THROUGH ANY CONDITIONS IF THERE WERE ANY ON THAT? SURE.
I'M ASSUMING THERE WAS ONE ABOUT FILING THE MAP.
UH, WAIVE WAIVING THE FILING IN TYPICALLY DO THAT FOR, FOR MINOR SUBDIVISION, UNLESS THERE'S SOME EASEMENT OR SOMETHING REQUIRED THAT WE FILE AN ACCOUNT.
ALRIGHT, WELL ONE OF THEM HAS THE INSTALLATION OF SIDEWALKS BEING WAVED, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY THAT THERE'S SIDEWALKS.
SO, SO ARE WE YOU'RE WAVING 'EM BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY SIDEWALKS, RIGHT? YEAH.
YEAH, I WAS JUST WONDERING, DIDN'T WE HAVE NEW WORDING TO USE FOR THAT? YEAH, I'M JUST PULLING IT BECAUSE I, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.
WE, WE SAY WE WAIVE IT BECAUSE THE SIDEWALKS ARE ALREADY, ALREADY EXIST.
SO, ALRIGHT, I'LL GET INTO WHEN THE, UH, SEEKER IN ACCORDANCE WITH NEW YORK STATE SEEKER LAW.
THE TOWN OF HAMBURG PLANNING BOARD HAS REVIEWED THE TWO LOT SUBDIVISION PROPOSED BY RAY MEYERS TO BE LOCATED AT 5 1 5 0 ABBOTT ROAD.
BASED ON THE PRELIMINARY PLAT REVIEW OF THE SUBMITTED MATERIALS INPUT FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS, THE PLANNING BOARD HAS DETERMINED THAT THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION IS NOT ANTICIPATED TO RESULT IN ANY SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AND THAT A NEGATIVE DECLARATION IS HEREBY ISSUED AND THE PLANNING BOARD CHAIRMAN IS AUTHORIZED TO SIGN THE EAF, WHICH WILL ACT AS THE NEGATIVE DECLARATION.
THE, THE HAMMER PLANNING BOARD HEREBY GRANTS PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL FOR THE RAY MEYERS TWO LAST SUBDIVISION WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
ONE, THE INSTALLATION OF SIDEWALKS IS WAIVED AS THEY ALREADY EXIST.
TWO APPROVAL IS CONTINGENT ON THE COMMENTS IN THE TOWN ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
MEMO DATED SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2022.
FINALLY, NO, THERE IS NO ENGINEERING ON ON, SO THERE'S NO LETTER.
SO ONE INSTALLATION SIDEWALKS IS WAIVED BECAUSE THEY ALREADY EXIST.
AND FINALLY THE HAMBURG PLANNING BOARD WAIVES THE COMPLETION OF A FINAL PLAT AND THE HAMBURG PLANNING BOARD CHAIRMAN IS AUTHORIZED TO SIGN THE PRELIMINARY PLAT ONCE THE TOWN ENGINEER SOUNDS OFF SIGNS OFF ON THE PLAT.
SO THAT IS A MOTION BY BILL SECOND BY YE BOB.
ALRIGHT, THAT'S IT FOR THAT ONE.
UM, NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS WOOD CERAMIC LLC REQUESTING SITE PLAN APPROVAL OF A 1,440
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SQUARE FOOT METAL BUILDING TO BE LOCATED ON VACANT LAND ADJACENT TO THE EAST OF 2 8 1 1 PLEASANT AVENUE.THEY REMEMBER, THEY'LL REMEMBER YOUR PROJECT.
YOU WANNA GIVE US A QUICK REFRESH? YOU'RE GOT THE
IT'S BEEN IN THE FAMILY SINCE DAY ONE.
WE BASICALLY WOULD NEED LIKE A 1200 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.
I WOULD LIKE A SIX FOOT PORCH ON IT FOR THE LENGTH OF THE BUILDING.
JUST MAINLY TO HOUSE MY MATERIALS.
MY CLAY, RIGHT NOW I'VE GOT FIVE PALLETS OF CLAY IN MY GARAGE, YOU KNOW, SO, UM, THE CLAY THAT I DELIVER TO THE COLLEGES AND SCHOOLS IN THE LOCAL AREAS.
SO, AND WE ALSO SERVICE A LOT OF SENIOR CENTERS WITH RAW MATERIAL, THEIR PAINTS AND THEIR CLAY.
I BOUGHT OUT A CERAMIC COMPANY TWO YEARS AGO NOW AND I USED TO JUST DO THIS AS A HOBBY AT MY HOUSE.
I NEED A BUILDING TO DO THIS HOBBY EVENTUALLY BUSINESS.
AND I, AT SOME POINT, YEAH, I PROBABLY WOULD HAVE LIKE A SMALL GIFT SHOP IN THE STORE JUST BECAUSE OF ALL THE FINISHED PRODUCTS AND SAMPLES WE DO.
AND THERE, THERE'S PEOPLE THAT'LL COME IN NOT TOO MANY A WEEK OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
I PROBABLY HAVE MAYBE OVER A COURSE OF A MONTH, MAYBE EIGHT PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT SENIOR CENTERS AND THAT COME IN, PICK UP THEIR SUPPLIES AND GO IT.
SO IT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT ON TRAFFIC.
IT'S BASICALLY JUST MORE SPACE FOR ME TO HOUSE THIS HOBBY THAT I'VE HAD FOR 35 YEARS.
SO TELL YOU PERMITTED, I'M JUST TRYING TO RECALL, WASN'T THERE AN ISSUE WITH LIKE A UTILITY POLE? THEY WANTED THE PARKING DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE SHARMA MEDICAL, THE DRIVEWAY, BUT THE TELEPHONE BOX, AND IT IS AN ACTIVE TELEPHONE LINE THAT IS THERE IS DIRECTLY ACROSS.
SO IF YOU DROVE INTO MY PARKING LOT, YOU'D BE DRIVING INTO A TELEPHONE, UM, BOX.
SO WE HAVE TO HAVE IT OVER TO THE ONE SIDE.
AND I'M NOT SURE IF THEY HOLD THAT ON THE PLAN.
SO, BUT YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE TELEPHONE BOX AND THAT IS DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE SHARMA.
CAN YOU REMIND US WHAT COLOR? DO WE HAVE A RENDERING IN THIS BUILDING OR, YOU KNOW WHAT I SHOWED YOU LAST TIME, BUT THE COMPANY DOESN'T, THEY HAD A BOOK, YOU KNOW, SO, UM, I PICKED OUT A, UM, LIKE A TEAL ROOF AND JUST LIKE A BEIGE BUILDING.
IT'S NOTHING I DON'T WANT, I WANT IT A LIGHTER COLOR JUST BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, IT'S DARK AND EVEN THOUGH WE'LL HAVE LIGHTING, BUT I WANTED A LIGHTER COLOR AND IT'S JUST GONNA BE A, IT'S ACTUALLY ATTRACTIVE FOR A MENTAL METAL BUILDING.
WE'LL HAVE THE FRONT POST AND IT'S, MAKE SURE YOU BRING SOMETHING FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THIS IS IN THE SOUTHERN HAMBURG OVERLAY, WHICH YOU GUYS HAVE DEALT WITH WITH OTHER PROJECTS.
SO AESTHETICS OF THE SITE IS VERY IMPORTANT.
YEAH, IF YOU CAN BRING THE BOOK IN.
AND MAYBE, UM, A NOTE WITH WHAT, OR YOU CAN PULL OFF THEIR WEBSITE IF THEY HAVE LIKE A PICTURE OF IT.
I, THIS IS EASTERN STEEL DOWN IN AMISH COUNTRY
SO A BOOK THAT SAYS, YEAH, THEY HAVE A BOOK WITH ONE THAT'S SIMILAR TO, I MEAN LIKE, IT SHOWS THE FRONTAGE AND IT SHOWS AND SHE HAS THE COLOR SAMPLES.
IT HAS COLOR SAMPLES THAT IT NEVER, THERE'S THERE'S NOT AN EXISTING BUILDING THAT WE'RE GONNA TRY AND MATCH, SO NO, NO.
AND THEN SHE IS, SHE IS CREATIVE SO WE PROBABLY FIGURE SHE CHOSE HER COLOR.
AND ARE YOU ADDING ANY EXTERIOR PARKING LIGHT OR WE'LL HAVE THE LIGHTING JUST A YEAH, WE'LL HAVE TO, WE HAVE LIGHTING OF COURSE THROUGH THERE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY PUT THAT ON HERE OR DIDN'T, BUT I ACTUALLY WANT IT WILL WELL LIT SOUTHERN TIER IS GOING TO PUT IN MY, UM, SECURITY SYSTEM.
BUT YEAH, SO THE SU SOUTHERN TIER SECURITY WILL PUT THAT IN AND WE WILL HAVE A VERY WELL LIT PARKING AREA.
EVEN THOUGH MY BUSINESS IS MOSTLY DURING THE DAY.
I DO SOME, I PERSONALLY DO SOME EVENING WEEK, I'LL EVEN HAVE LIGHTING TO THE BACK SO I CAN WALK BACK TO MY HOUSE WHEN I'M DONE.
AND THEN ARE YOU PLANNING ON PUTTING A SIGN IN? I DON'T WANT A SIGN.
AND MAYBE ON JUST ON MY BUILDING WHAT IT IS, BUT I DON'T WANNA ROADSIDE OR NO, NO, IT'S NOT REALLY NECESSARY.
THE PEOPLE THAT COME KNOW WHERE MY SHOP IS, YOU KNOW, I, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I'M LIKE NECESSARILY INVITING THE PUBLIC IN.
IT'S MORE SO JUST FOR THE PEOPLE THAT PICK UP MATERIALS AND SUPPLIES.
I MIGHT PUT ONE OUT WHEN I HAVE AN OPEN HOUSE THAT DAY SO PEOPLE KNOW WHERE TO DO PARKING BAGS.
BUT THAT'S IT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN ONE DAY TYPE THING.
SO DO WE NEED ANY TREE PLANTING BASED ON THE CODE? KNOW, LIKE WE HAD TO TAKE 17 TREES OUT, RIGHT? WELL,
WE HAD TO TAKE 17 PINE TREES OUT JUST TO CLEAR THE LAND TO ALLOW FOR
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THIS.THEN WE JUST HAD TO TAKE ANOTHER TWO OUT THAT HAD DIED.
BUT WE DO HAVE, UM, A, THAT'S TOWARDS THE BACK OF THE PARKING LOT.
THERE'S LIKE A ROW OF FRUIT TREES THERE.
AND IN THE FRONT THERE IS UM, I THINK A COUPLE MAPLES LEFT.
AND THERE'S ALSO ALONG THE, THE LINE THERE, UH, THE PROPERTY LINE THERE IS WALNUT TREES AND THERE'S A HEDGE, THERE'S LIKE BUSHES AND THERE'S SEVERAL TREES THROUGH THERE.
WE DO PLAN ON HAVING LIKE THE FRONT THE LANDSCAPE AND IF YOU NEED A RENDERING OF THAT, I CAN GET THAT TOO BECAUSE I ALREADY KNOW MY LANDSCAPE.
IF YOU LIKE THAT IN THE PICTURE, WONDERFUL.
IF YOU HAVE GONNA HAVE A LANDSCAPING PLANNER, IF HE'S GOT SOME SORT OF DRAWING, I THINK.
I WAS GONNA MAKE, UH, WAS ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? SO, UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR WOOD CERAMICS ON OCTOBER 5TH SECOND.
SO WE'LL SEE YOU BACK IN TWO WEEKS FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.
PLEASE BRING THE BOOK I'LL, YOU CAN, UM, GO MY FACEBOOK PAGE.
I JUST POSTED EVERYTHING FROM QUAKER ARTS, SO THANK YOU.
SO GO DOWN THE STAIRS AND BREAK.
AND THEN THIS IS GOING TO, ALRIGHT, NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS PLANNING BOARD TO DISCUSS THE SUBMITTED DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT DEIS IN CONNECTION WITH A PROPOSED HOT MIX ASPHALT PLANT TO BE LOCATED AT 5 6 9 0 CAMP ROAD.
ALRIGHT, SO AS WE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING, WE HAVE A DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT THAT WAS SUBMITTED.
THE PLANNING BOARD HAS 30 DAYS TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHETHER OR NOT THAT APPLICATION IS SUFFICIENT.
WE DO HAVE A RESOLUTION ABOUT THAT.
I, I GUESS THE SUMMARY IS WE'RE GONNA SAY THAT IT IS DEFICIENT.
UH, ONE OF THE ISSUES REMAINING THOUGH IS THE TOWN WANTS TO HIRE SOME CONSULTANTS TO HELP US REVIEW THAT PROCESS.
UH, WE DO HAVE A RESOLUTION TO THE TOWN BOARD, WHICH WILL BE VOTED UPON MONDAY TO HAVE EA CONSULTANTS COME BACK AS OUR EXPERT ON AIR QUALITY.
AND WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING SOME BIDS FROM TRAFFIC ENGINEERS BECAUSE AT THE LAST MEETING THE PLANNING BOARD DISCUSSED THEY WANTED EXPERTS FOR AIR QUALITY AND TRAFFIC.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE STAND WITH THAT.
UH, SO ON CONSULTANTS, YES, TIME.
UM, WE MAY WANT TO THINK ABOUT, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS AS I WAS REVIEWING ALL THIS THAT CAME TO MIND WAS NOISE.
WE HAD HAD QUESTIONS ON THE NOISE STUDY BEFORE AND I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, WENDELL OR GHD ALREADY DO, BUT WE MAY WANT TO CONSIDER BRINGING IN NOISE CONSULTANT ON BOARD TO HELP EVALUATE RELATIVE SOME OF THE, THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE REMAINING THERE.
IF THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO DO, WE CAN CERTAINLY PITCH IT TO THE TOWN BOARD.
I MEAN MY, MY PERSONAL OPINION IS WITH THE ASPHALT, WE, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS QUITE A WHILE.
I I THINK YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO SMELL IT FROM A LOT FARTHER AWAY THAN YOU CAN HEAR IT.
SO I THINK THE AIR QUALITY IS GONNA BE, I I AGREE THAT THAT'S PROBABLY THE PRIMARY ISSUE.
BUT IF WE'RE, THERE'S A LENGTHY NOISE EVALUATION AND MODELING AND THERE WERE OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS FROM PRIOR TO THE POS DECK ISSUANCE STILL ON THAT I CAN CHECK WITH EA ENGINEERING AND SEE IF THEY CAN INCLUDE NOISE WITH, WELL IS, IS THAT WHAT THE MAJORITY OF THE PLANNING BOARD WANTS TO DO OR WELL HOW DOES THAT WORK WITH THE TIMEFRAME
MAYBE IF, IF AT ONE OF THE CONSULTANTS WE HIRE THAT'S GONNA DO TRAFFIC OR IF EA CAN DO IT, I DOUBT IT WOULD ADD MUCH TO THE TIMEFRAME.
BUT IF WE HAVE TO GET A SEPARATE CONSULTANT, I THINK IT COULD, I MEAN I THINK THAT, SO ONCE WE GET THROUGH THIS PHASE OF THE PROCESS
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AND THEN HERE, SO THIS WOULDN'T BE EVEN THAT THEN YOU STILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING CLEANNESS AND WE ARE STILL GONNA HAVE TO ISSUE OUR OWN FBIS WITH ANY OF OUR ATTACHMENTS.SO IF WE'RE GONNA DO IT NOW IS THE TIME THAT WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF RIGHT NOW'S THE TIME TO HIRE.
AND I THINK, I MEAN I, AND THEY WOULD BE HIRING TO ASSIST WITH THE PREPARATION OF THE FBIS OR TO EVALUATION THE DIS COMPARED TO THE, WELL I THINK YOU CAN'T DO ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER.
SO I THINK THE QUESTION WOULD BE TO EVALUATE THE NOISE STUDY THAT HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY AND ADDRESS SOME OF, I MEAN, WHATEVER WE THINK NEEDS TO GO WITH THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT GET TO YEAH, I, I AGREE.
SO I GUESS THAT'S, I'LL CHECK WITH THE H TOMORROW.
YEAH, SO I GUESS, I GUESS WE'LL HAVE TO, WE'LL EXPLORE THAT OPTION.
SO, SO THIS TODAY'S RESOLUTION IS GONNA BE A BIT MORE GENERAL THAN WE PREFER BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET THOSE CONSULTANTS ON BOARD TO GET THEIR OPINIONS SO WE COULD GIVE SOMETHING A BIT MORE SPECIFIC, BUT WITH THE TIMEFRAMES IT JUST WAS NOT GONNA HAPPEN THIS ROUND.
SO ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE GO INTO THE RESOLUTIONS? DO YOU WANT TO GO OVER JUST THE GENERAL DEFICIENCIES THAT YOU'RE, THAT ARE GOING BE ATTACHED TO YOUR RESOLUTION? I MEAN THE APPLICANTS GONNA GET A, THEY'RE GONNA GET A COPY OF THAT, BUT JUST MAKE SURE CHANGES FROM WHAT JENNIFER SENT OUT.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE ON BOARD, WHY, WHY DON'T YOU HAND OUT WHAT WE GOT FOR EVERYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE, BUT IF THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT WOULD, SO YOU'RE SUGGESTING WANNA READ THIS? NO, NO, NO, NO.
JUST GENERALLY I JUST WANT IF EVERYONE'S RECEIVED THE TOPICS LOOKED AT ALRIGHT.
AS LONG AS EVERYONE HAS SEEN IT, WE'VE ALL, NOT EVERYONE CORRECT.
OKAY, SO, SO THE PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS, MAYBE WE COULD WALK THROUGH THE CATEGORIES FOR THE, FOR THE RECORD, JUST THE HIGH LEVEL, THE THE NUMBER ONE AND JUST KIND OF ALSO, JUST SO YOU KNOW, THAT DOCUMENT WILL BE ATTACHED WILL BE A PART THE MINUTES.
THIS DOCUMENT BE ATTACHED TO THE APPLICANT WILL GET A COPY OF IT.
ALRIGHT, SO, SO, SO THIS IS MY COPY.
SO THE PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS THAT HAVEN'T SEEN THE FINAL VERSION OF THIS CAN READ IT.
UH, 4.2 EXECUTIVE SUMMARY SUMMARY DOES NOT PROVIDE A FULL SUMMARY OF THE DEIS 4.3 DESCRIPTION OF ACTION, MISSING SOME COMPONENTS LISTED IN THE SCULPTING DOCUMENTS.
AND THEN WE HAVE A LIST OF FIVE COMPONENTS, UH, SECTION 4.4 ENVIRONMENTAL SETTINGS SLASH EXISTING CONDITIONS NEED MAPPING AND EXHIBITS TO DESCRIBE THESE EXISTING CONDITIONS.
AND THEN WE GO ON TO DESCRIBE A BIT MORE DETAIL WHAT WE EXPECT WITH THOSE MAPS.
UH, SECTION 4.51 IMPACTS ON SURFACE WATER, GROUNDWATER AND FLOODING.
UH, THERE'S NO DISCUSSION OF MATERIALS STORED ON SITE AND ANY RUNOFF FROM THEM.
WE NEED A DESCRIPTION OF SPECIFIC CULVERTS IDENTIFIED AS SCOPE.
AND THEN THERE'S SOME OTHER SUB POINTS THAT WE INCLUDED THERE.
SECTION 4.5 0.2 IMPACTS ON AIR.
UH, WE PROVIDE A COMPARISON TO THE PROPOSED NIAGARA COUNTY PROJECT AND THAT IS NOT RELEVANT TO THIS ONE.
ANY, UH, COMPARISONS TO THAT PROJECT REMOVED FROM THIS DEIS.
UH, WE NEED AN ANALYSIS OF THE POTENTIAL MITIGATIONS AND THE TOWN RESERVES.
THE RIGHT TO PROVIDE OTHER DEFICIENCIES ON THE DEIS AFTER WE HAVE A CONSULTANT RETAINED 4.5 0.3 IMPACT ON PLANTS AND ANIMALS.
UPDATED U-S-F-W-S IPAC FOR THE PROJECT AREA INCLUDES A PROPOSED CANDIDATE SPECIES NOT NOTED IN THE EIS MONARCH BUTTERFLY, UH, ANALYSIS LIMITED ONLY ENDANGERED THREATENED OR SPECIAL CONCERNED SPECIES, BUT DOES NOT ADDRESS THE COMMUNITIES OR SPECIES LOCATED ON
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OR ADJACENT TO THE PARCEL THAT ARE NOT STATE OR FEDERALLY LISTED.SECTION 4.4 IMPACT ON AESTHETIC RESOURCES.
NEED TO CONTACT A VILLAGE REPRESENTATIVE.
NO DISCUSSION OF LOCALLY IMPORTANT RESOURCES.
IT STATED THAT NO PLUME WILL EXIST.
SECTION 4.5 0.5 IMPACT ON HISTORICAL AND ARCHEOLOGICAL RESOURCES.
IGNORED VILLAGE COMMENTS, UH, NEED TO IDENTIFY LOCALLY SIGNIFICANT RESOURCES IN THAT AREA.
THE TRUCK ROUTES WERE NOT IDENTIFIED.
WE NEED VISUALS IN THE DOCUMENTS.
THE MITIGATIONS WERE NOT EVALUATED.
THE TOWN RESERVES THE RIGHT TO PROPOSE OTHER DEFICIENCIES ON THE DIS AFTER A CONSULTANT IS RETAINED.
AND THEN THERE'S SOME OTHER SUB POINTS.
UH, SECTION 4.5 0.7 IMPACT ON ENERGY.
WE NEED MORE INFORMATION AND IT JUMPS TO CONCLUSIONS BY COMPARISONS, UH, TO NEW SERVICES BEING PROVIDED.
NO MITIGATIONS ARE EVALUATED AND IT LISTS THREE OTHER ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
UH, SECTION 4.5 0.8 IMPACTS FROM NOISE, ODOR AND LIGHT SUMMARY OF THE NOISE STUDY NEEDED IN THE DEIS, UH, RECEPTORS, NOISE LEVELS, ET CETERA.
NEED INFORMATION ON TRUCKS, DUMPING THEM MATERIALS, ET CETERA.
AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO AMEND THAT TO RESERVE THE RIGHT TO ADD ADDITIONAL DEFICIENCIES WHEN AN EXPERT'S RETAINED OR IF AN EXPERT RETAINED ORDER, THE TOWN RESERVES THE RIGHT TO PROVIDE THE OTHER DEFICIENCIES ON THE DIS AFTER A CONSULTANT IS RETAINED.
LIGHTING, NO ANALYSIS WAS PROVIDED.
NEED TO EVALUATE MITIGATIONS FOR NOISE, ODOR, AND LIGHT.
SECTION 4.5 0.9 IMPACT ON HUMAN HEALTH TOWN RESERVES THE RIGHT TO PROVIDE OTHER DEFICIENCIES ON THE DES WHEN A SPECIAL CONSULTANT IS RETAINED.
MISSING EVALUATION OF MITIGATIONS IDENTIFIED ON PAGE 24 OF THE SCOPE OF DOCUMENTS.
CONSISTENCY WITH COMMUNITY PLANS.
DID NOT CONTACT THE TOWN FOR INPUT.
UH, ASSUMPTIONS AND COMPARISONS WERE MADE ABOUT PREVIOUS USAGE, WHICH ARE NO LONGER RELEVANT.
NEED TO ADDRESS THE NEW PLANS CREATED SINCE THE SCOPING WAS COMPLETED TWO YEARS AGO.
SECTION 4.5 POINT 11 CONSISTENT WITH CHARACTER OF COMMUNITY OR NEIGHBORHOOD.
NO DESCRIPTIONS OF HOW THE PROJECT WILL IMPACT SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENTS.
WE NEED SPECIFIC INPUT FROM COMMUNITY SERVICE PROVIDERS AND NEED TO EVALUATE MITIGATIONS NONE FROM LIST OF THREE.
ON PAGE 26 OF THE CO SCOPING DOCUMENT, UH, EV EVALUATION OF MITIGATION MEASURES THE BIGGEST GAP IN THE DOCUMENT.
IT DID NOT THOROUGHLY ANALYZE THE MITIGATIONS IDENTIFIED IN THE SCOPING DOCUMENT.
SECTION SIX ALTERNATIVES TO BE EVALUATED.
UH, ALTERNATIVE TECHNOLOGY NOT FULLY EVALUATED.
ALTERNATIVE LAYOUTS WERE NOT EVALUATED AND A BETTER DISCUSSION OF ALTERNATIVE SITES AS DESCRIBED IN THE SCOPING DOCUMENT WAS NOT COMPLETED.
ALTERNATE USES OF THE SITE ARE NOT THOROUGHLY EVALUATED.
WE NEED DISCUSSION RELATIVE TO DRAFT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE DRAFT CAMP ROAD GATEWAY AREA INITIATIVES.
SECTION SEVEN CUMULATIVE IMPACTS.
WE NEED DOCUMENTATION OF CONSULTATION WITH THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD PLANNING DEPARTMENT BUILDING DEPARTMENT, AND INPUTS TO CUMULATIVE IMPACT ANALYSIS.
ANALYSIS WAS ONLY LIMITED TO THE PROJECT PARCEL AND DOES NOT CONSIDER CUMULATIVE ACTIONS RELATIVE TO OTHER PROJECTS OR INITIATIVES LOCATED ADJACENT TO OR NEAR THE PROJECT SITE.
SECTION EIGHT, GROWTH INDUCING IMPACTS.
WE NEED A DISCUSSION AND EVALUATION AS DISCUSSED IN OUR SCOPING DOCUMENT AND THE DEPENDENCIES ARE MISSING THE FOLLOWING, UH, MINUTES OF MEETINGS FROM THE TOWN OF HAMMER PLANNING, BOARD CORRECTED AIR PERMIT APPLICATION MATERIALS, NEW YORK STATE DEC NOTICE OF INCOMPLETE APPLICATION, AIR PERMIT, CURRENT SPEEDIES PERMIT, AND OTHER EXISTING PERMITS.
AND THE ENGINEER'S REPORT OF THE FACILITY SIZE AND LAYOUT.
SO THAT IS OUR LIST OF THE INADEQUACIES THAT WOULD BE ATTACHED INCLUDED, ATTACHED TO THE RESOLUTION AND INCLUDED IN THE MINUTES.
AND CHAIRMAN, JUST BECAUSE I PREPARED THAT DOCUMENT JUST ON THE RECORD, A DOCUMENT PREPARED, UH, BY THE PLANNING BOARD ALL RECEIVE A COPY OF THE DEIS AT THE LAST MEETING I HANDED OUT THE SCOPING DOCUMENT WITH SOME, SOME AREAS THAT YOU CAN GO THROUGH THE PLANNING BOARD AND OTHER STAFF GAVE ME COMMENTS AND I CONSOLIDATED THOSE WITH HELP
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INTO THAT DOCUMENT BASED UPON YOUR, AND THEN, AND THEN WE WERE GIVEN A DRAFT.YOU COULD MAKE CHANGES TONIGHT BECAUSE NOT ALL YOU SEEN IT, IT WAS CONSOLIDATED FROM THE COMMENTARY.
RIGHT? AND THERE THERE WAS SOME COMMENTS THAT WERE ADDED AFTER WE WERE GIVEN THE DRAFT.
AND THE ONE AMENDMENT BASED ON THE MAJORITY OF THE PLANNING BOARD SUGGESTING WE NEED A NOISE CONSULTANT WILL BE ADDED TO THIS ONE.
ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO INTO THE RESOLUTION? ALL RIGHT, I'LL LAST ALL PLANS.
SECRET RESOLUTION SEPTEMBER 21ST, 2022 WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG RECEIVED A SITE PLAN APPLICATION FROM AL ASPHALT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN ASPHALT PLANT CALLED HMA PLANT IN THE APPLICATION AND RELATED ACCESSORY USES AT 5 6 9 0 CAMP ROW.
AND WHEREAS THE HAMBURG PLANNING BOARD REVIEWED THE APPLICATION INITIATED THE SEEGER COORDINATED REVIEW PROCESS FOR THIS UNLISTED ACTION RECEIVED INPUT FROM VARIOUS INVOLVED AND INTERESTED AGENCIES AND TOWN DEPARTMENTS AND SUBSEQUENTLY ESTABLISHED THEMSELVES AS SEEKER LEAD AGENCY AND WHEREAS THE HAMBURG PLANNING BOARD IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT, SEEKER DETERMINED THAT THE PROPOSED APPROVAL OF A SITE PLAN AND CONSTRUCTION OF AN ASPHALT FACILITY MAY INCLUDE THE POTENTIAL FOR AT LEAST ONE SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AND ISSUED A POSITIVE DECLARATION ON NOVEMBER 4TH, 2019.
AND WHEREAS THE HAMBURG PLANNING BOARD RECEIVED A DRAFT SCOPING DOCUMENT FROM THE APPLICANT ON MARCH 6TH, 2020, HELD A PUBLIC SCOPING MEETING, RECEIVED INPUT FROM OTHER INVOLVED AND INTERESTED AGENCIES AND ITS CONSULTANTS AND TOWN DEPARTMENTS, AND ISSUED A FINAL SCOPING DOCUMENT ON APRIL 29TH, 2020.
AND WHEREAS THE HAMBURG PLANNING BOARD RECEIVED THE DEIS FROM THE APPLICANT ON AUGUST 5TH, 2022 OF THE PLANNING BOARD WITH THE ASSISTANCE BY ITS CONSULTANTS AND OTHER TOWN DEPARTMENTS HAVE REVIEWED THE DEIS TO DETERMINE ITS COMPLETENESS FOR PUBLIC REVIEW.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE HAMRICK PLANNING BOARD HAS DETERMINED IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 6 1 7 0.9 SEEKER THAT THE DEIS IS INCOMPLETE AND NOT READY FOR COMMENCING PUBLIC REVIEW AND REQUESTS THAT THE APPLICANT MAKE REVISIONS TO THE DOCUMENT AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE HAMBURG PLANNING BOARD ATTACHES A COPY OF A DOCUMENT ENTITLED INADEQUACIES IN DEFICIENCIES OF THE E OF THE AL ASPHALT DEIS TO ASSIST THE APPLICANT WITH THE COMPLETION OF A REVISED DEIS.
SO THAT IS A MOTION BY BILL SECOND.
SO WE DO NOT HAVE ANY MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING YET.
WE JUST GOT TODAY, SO WE'RE NOT GONNA VOTE ON THOSE.
ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED TO GO OVER TODAY? DAY? I MADE A MOTION TO ADJOURN OUR MEETING MOTION BY DOUG.