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IF YOU GO BACK TO THE, UM, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE START, UM, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE START, UM, SO THE DIAGRAM ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT, I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED, UH, IN THE RED OUTLINE WITH THE BLACK HATCH.THOSE ARE THE INDIVIDUAL PARCELS.
UM, AND YOU CAN SEE IN RELATIONSHIP TO OUR PARCEL, WHICH IS CALLED OUT THERE KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE.
UM, THOSE ARE THE INDIVIDUAL OR THOSE ARE THE NINE SEPARATE PARCELS THAT ARE BELOW THE TWO ACRE REQUIREMENT? THE TINY ONES THOUGH, THOSE DON'T HAVE HOMES ON THEM? UH, I DON'T BELIEVE SO, NO.
BUT THEY ARE OWNED BY, UM, INDIVIDUALS AND THEY MOSTLY A BUT TOWN PROPERTY, THEY'RE KIND OF LIKE A TRIANGLE THAT GOT LEFT OVER.
SO TEAM, WE HAVE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS TO ALLOW WHETHER WE WANT THEM TO ALLOW THE VARIANCES OR WHETHER WE WANNA RECOMMEND AGAINST THE VARIANCES.
ADVISING THEM HOW YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THREE HOUSES THERE NOW, RIGHT? CORRECT.
HOW IS EACH ONE GONNA BE ACCESSED? UM, SO, YEP.
SO ARE THEY GONNA DO CURB CUTS OR ARE YOU GONNA HAVE A COMMON DRIVE? I MEAN, ARE THEY YES, IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE CURB CUTS.
SO THE ONE EXISTING CURB CUT WOULD REMAIN, ACTUALLY TWO OF THE EXISTINGS WOULD BE, WOULD REMAIN, UM, THE ONE ALONG, I BELIEVE THAT'S SMITH ROAD.
UM, SO HIS CURRENT DRIVEWAY WOULD BE RECONFIGURED.
THE CURRENT CURB CUT ON SMITH ROAD WOULD BE USED FOR THE TOP PARCEL, WHICH IS, I BELIEVE THAT'S B OR C.
UM, THE OTHER EXISTING CURB CUT ALONG EAST PLEASANT WOULD BE USED FOR PARCEL A.
SO THEN POTENTIALLY ONE CURB CUT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR PARCEL B.
A COUNTY ROAD PLEASANT, A TOWN ROAD.
AND I'M SORRY, I MISSED WHAT YOU JUST SAID WITH THE INTERNET.
SO EACH, UM, I'M VERY FRUSTRATED BECAUSE I WANTED TO LOOK AT SOMETHING.
DID YOU SUGGEST THAT THERE WAS GONNA BE A SHARED DRIVEWAY? NO.
SO IT WOULD GET, HIS CURRENT DRIVEWAY WOULD BE RECONFIGURED.
UM, IT CAN KIND OF, HE'S GOT ONE EXISTING CURB CUT ON PLEASANT MM-HMM
UM, THAT WOULD BE USED FOR PARCEL A MM-HMM
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UM, THE OTHER EXISTING CURB CUT LOCATED ON SMITH STREET WOULD THEN BE USED FOR, YOU KNOW, TO CREATE A NEW DRIVEWAY FOR PARCEL C.THE ONLY NEW CURB CUT WOULD POTENTIALLY BE FOR PARCEL B, UM, ON PLEASANT.
WHAT ABOUT OTHER UTILITIES LIKE WATER OR SEWER OR ELECTRIC? UM, THEY WOULD ALL HAVE THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL.
UM, I'M NOT SURE IF THOSE ARE MUNICIPAL OR IF THEY'RE, IT MIGHT BE SEPTIC STIC.
YEAH, THE SEPTIC I THINK, I'M NOT SURE CONFIDENT THOSE OUT SMITH ARE SO FAR BACK.
NONE OF THESE WOULD BE SHARING UTILITIES.
THEY WOULD ALL BE SEPARATE, SEPARATE ENTITIES.
ARE THEY GONNA BE PUBLIC UTILITIES? ARE THEY GONNA BE WELL AT, UH, SEPTIC OR IS IT GONNA BE, ARE THEY GONNA TRY TO HOOK UP TO COUNTY SEWER AND WALKER
I MEAN, MY ASSUMPTION WOULD BE THAT WHATEVER ALL OF THE NEIGHBORING HOMES ARE DOING, WE'RE ONLY IN LINE WITH THE PRESIDENT.
IF THEY'RE ALL SEPTIC, THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO.
WE'RE NOT GONNA TRY TO BRING A, UM, PUBLIC LINE TO THAT AREA JUST FOR US.
SO WHATEVER IS BEING DONE ALL AROUND WILL BE EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THIS, IN THIS INSTANCE.
AND I, I THINK IT FOLDS INTO OUR DECISION BECAUSE SAY THEY NEEDED THREE WELLS AND THREE SEPTIC TANKS AND EACH OF THESE LOTS IS 0.2 ACRES.
IS THERE ROOM, IS THERE RULES? HOW FAR AWAY DOES THINGS NEED TO BE FROM A WELL, HOW FAR DO THE WELLS NEED TO BE FROM EACH OTHER? HOW MUCH ROOM FOR A SEPTIC TANK? I DON'T KNOW HOW EASILY WE CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION WITHOUT THAT INFORMATION.
I DON'T WANNA STALL US, BUT LIKE POWER EXISTS, YOU KNOW, THE CAPACITY OF POWER TOWARDS THE END OF THAT LINE TO THEN, YOU KNOW, HAVE ADDITIONAL HOUSES.
AND IF YOU HAVE TO HAVE ANY SORT OF TRANSFORMER, THERE'S STILL GONNA BE ROOM TO THE SAME POINT OF THESE LOSS BEING QUARTER OF AN ACRE VERSUS THE SURROUNDING LOSS BEING, YOU KNOW, AN ACRE OR THREE QUARTERS OF AN ACRE.
WHEN THE, WHEN THE INTERNET WAS LOOKING AS THE COUNTY TAX HAS THE ONE PRETTY CLOSE TO A BUDDING AS 0.42.
SO THERE'S SOME THAT ARE JUST SOUTH OF HALF AN ACRE.
SO THERE ARE SOME SMALL LOTS, BUT THERE ARE, WE'RE WE'RE WORKING WITH NINE NINE VARIANCES.
10 VARIANCES, TWO FOR THE FRONT YARD, TWO FOR THE SIDE YARD, TWO FOR THE REAR YARD, AND THREE FOR BEING LESS THAN TWO ACRES.
SO THEN IF WE NEEDED THREE TO SIX MORE VARIANCES FOR SEPTIC AND OR WELLS, WHICH WE DON'T KNOW, WE'RE TALKING 15 VARIANCES TO SUBDIVIDE A SINGLE PARCEL OF PROPERTY.
SO I THINK THE ASSUMPTION WOULD BE REGARDING THE, UM, UTILITIES OF SEPTIC, ET CETERA.
UM, WE SHOULD ALL ACT AS IF ALL OF THE APPLICABLE CODES WILL BE, UM, ACTED UPON WITHOUT A VARIANCE REQUEST.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, IF VARIANCES WERE REQUIRED, THEN THAT'S ON US AS OPPOSED TO TODAY'S SESSION.
I'D LIKE YOU TO THINK THAT THOSE OTHER THREE ISSUES YOU JUST MENTIONED MM-HMM
ARE NOT ON THE TABLE BECAUSE THESE GUYS SAID THEY'RE GONNA MEET THE CODE, WHETHER IT'S 10 FEET TO THE SEPTIC FOR THE WHATEVER IT IS.
THESE GUYS SAID THEY'RE GONNA MAKE IT.
YOU DON'T NEED TO SAY THOSE VARIANCES APPLY TO TONIGHT'S DECISION.
ASSUME WE'RE GONNA SATISFY THE CODE.
WE, I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE MAKING A DECISION.
I DON'T KNOW THOSE OTHER THINGS BECAUSE YOU ARE ALREADY ASKING FOR A HANDFUL OF VARIANCES AND WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S SEPTIC OR, OR IF IT'S SEWER.
WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S WELL OR WHETHER IT'S, UH, COUNTY WATER.
AND I DON'T FEEL REALLY COMFORTABLE RECOMMENDING THESE OTHER VARIANCES UNTIL WE'RE POSITIVE.
I MEAN, WE CAN ASSUME WHATEVER WE WANT, BUT I'D RATHER SEE IT IN BLACK AND WHITE WHAT IT'S GONNA BE.
WELL, AT THIS POINT, I MEAN, DOES ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM KNOW WHAT TAKING THE ADJACENT HOUSES
THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S ON THE GUY.
NO, I MEAN, I'M JUST ASKING TO, WELL, I DON'T KNOW.
NOBODY HERE KNOWS ABOUT THAT STREET.
I DO NOT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
WHAT DOES I KNOW? I ANOTHER SEPTIC ON SMITH.
WHAT DO YOU THREE THINK OVER HERE? DO YOU FEEL LIKE WE HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OR DO YOU WANNA GET MORE INFORMATION? I GET MORE SPECIFICALLY THOUGH ON THE PARCEL BI CAN'T REALLY SEE ON THE MM-HMM.
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THAT A BUTT UP TO ON THE, WHAT'S THE NEXT PROPERTY OVER? BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A SETBACK VARIANCE THERE.YOU CAN GET A BUTTS THE ROAD AND THEN THESE ARE THE, HERE I'M TALKING, OH, I SEE.
SIDE, LIKE THESE NEIGHBORS, IF THERE'S A HOUSE THERE ALREADY, THEY'RE GONNA BE IMPACTED BY A VARIANCE.
WILL THEY BE IMPACTED BY THIS? SO THEY DON'T NEED ATTENTION.
WHAT WAS THAT CALY? I WAS TRYING TO READ IT, BUT I CAN'T, THERE'S, THERE'S 10 FEES BETWEEN 10.
THIS EDGE, THE LONG EDGE OF PARCEL B AND YES.
SO I, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE STRUCTURE IS ON THE OTHER SIDE.
SO IF IT'S A VARIANCE, HOW DOES THAT IMPACT, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF IMPACT ARE WE THEN AGREEING TO NEXT DOOR? THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS THAT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT'S BEING BUILT ON THESE PARCELS EITHER.
SO THE HOUSES COULD REQUIRE ADDITIONAL VARIANCES ONCE THEY DECIDE WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BUILD.
THEY'RE GONNA NEED VARIANCES FOR THE SPLIT.
THEN WHEN THE HOUSE GETS THERE, CHANCES ARE IT'S NOT GONNA COMPLY OR CONFORM TO THE REGULAR.
I MEAN, IF WE'RE NOT, AND I, I THINK SOME OF THOSE VARIANCES ARE INCLUDED 'CAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THEY'LL NEED THIS, THE FRONT SIDE.
AND REAR YARDS, THEY'RE ANTICIPATING STRUCTURE.
UM, SO I THINK THOSE ARE INCLUDED.
BUT ANYTHING ELSE, THE SETBACK AND ANY OTHER LAYER, THEY'RE ALREADY INCLUDING THE SETBACK VARIANCES FOR THE BUILDING.
EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT SIZE OF THE BUILDING IS.
I MEAN AS FAR AS THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES THOUGH, I MEAN, I SAID IT EARLIER, WE DESIGNED TO SATISFY THE APPLICABLE CODES AND SO THERE'S NO NEED TO WONDER ABOUT THESE HOUSES MOVING FORWARD.
WILL THERE BE MORE VARIANCES REQUIRED? NO.
WE DESIGN HOUSES TO MEET THE CODE BESIDES THE SETBACKS, ET CETERA, THAT WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I THINK WE STILL NEED MORE INFORMATION DEFINITELY ON THE UTILITIES SPECIFICALLY.
SO, JOSH, WHAT, DOES EVERYONE AGREE YOU WANNA GET MORE INFORMATION? YES.
JOSH, DO WE PUT THEM ON THE NEXT WORK SESSION TO COME BACK WITH MORE INFO? UH, WE'LL PUT 'EM ON A REGULAR MEETING.
AND WE HAVE, WE HAVE ONE MORE OPENING ON SEPTEMBER 6TH.
'CAUSE THIS COULD BE A, A SHORT CONVERSATION IF YOU COME BACK WITH ALL THE INFO AND YOU CAN JUST MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
SO WE'LL TABLE JASON REDDING AT, AT 33 12 EAST PLEASANT ON SEPTEMBER 6TH, SECOND.
ANYTHING SHE DID? OH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION SECOND.
WHO LEFT ME IN CHARGE? YOU DIDN'T EVEN TECHNICALLY REQUIRE IT.
IN THIS TOGETHER, WE HAVE 10 MINUTES UNTIL
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SEVEN.OH, IT'S, YEP, IT'S SEVEN ON HERE.
THEN WE WILL CALL TO ORDER THIS EIGHT 16 MEETING OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG PLANNING BOARD DENNIS FLAG ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
SO FIRST UP, WE HAVE, I'VE LOST MY AGENDA, BELL ATLANTIC PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BE ATLANTIC.
SO SHOULD WE GIVE US THREE INTIMIDATION BEFORE THE HEARING OR YES, YOU'RE WELCOME TO GIVE US A LITTLE REFRESHER.
TELL US WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHAT ARE THE ISSUES TODAY? SURE.
I'M THE ATTORNEY
UH, WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS TO REPLACE AN EXISTING UTILITY POLE ON LAND OWNED BY THE ERIE COUNTY AG DISTRICTS NEAR 5,600
UM, PRIMARILY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO BY INSTALLING THIS NEW OUR TELECOMMUNICATIONS FACILITY IS TO RELIEVE SOME CAPACITY ISSUES THAT FOR US THIS NETWORK IS FACING, UM, IN THIS PART OF THE TOWN, PARTICULARLY AROUND FAIR SEASON.
UH, RIGHT NOW THERE'S A COLD TRUCK, WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH A, A MOBILE WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATIONS FACILITY THAT PROVIDES EXCESS COVERAGE, YOU KNOW, DURING HIGH TRACK EVENTS LIKE THE FAIR.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE THINK THAT HAVING A PERMANENT SOLUTION THERE WILL, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY BENEFIT THIS TOWN DURING THE FAIR ITSELF, BUT ALSO YEAR ROUND.
UM, SO WITH THAT, WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND HEAR ANY INPUT.
SO IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THERE IS A NEW POLE GOING IN AND IT IS LESS THAN FIVE FEET OVER THE EXISTING POLE, SO THERE'S NO NEED FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
SO THERE'S NO NEED FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
WE DID, YOU KNOW, CLARIFY THAT, BUT THE EXISTING POLE RIGHT NOW IS 34 FEET ABOVE GROUND LEVEL.
UM, THIS NEW POLE WITH THE ANTENNA ATTACHED WILL BE ABOUT 43 FEET ABOVE GROUND LEVEL.
SO IT'S ABOUT NINE, NINE FEET HIGHER.
YOU SAID IT WAS BY ERIE COUNTY AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT.
AND THEY GAVE YOU PERMISSION TO YES.
SO THEY HAD ALREADY HAD PLANS TO REPLACE, UM, A NUMBER OF POLES OR REMOVED A NUMBER OF POLES, UM, ON THE GROUNDS.
UM, AND THIS ONE SPECIFICALLY, THEY WERE GONNA ADD NEW LIGHTS TO, SO WHEN WE SPOKE TO THEM THEY SAID IT MADE SENSE.
UM, SO PROVIDE A PERMANENT SOLUTION THERE INSTEAD OF BRINGING IN A COLD TRUCK PRETTY MUCH EVERY YEAR FOR THE FAIR.
SO IT'S KIND OF A JOINT, I GUESS, JOINT VENTURE TO FIND A SOLUTION THERE.
BUT YES, THE GROUNDS ARE OBVIOUSLY OWNED BY ER COUNTY HERE GROUND AND THEN THEY OWN THE POLE AS WELL.
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CO-LOCATING ON A POLL THAT THEY OFF.JOSH, ANYTHING WE NEED TO KNOW FROM, FROM YOU? ANY HIGHLIGHTS FOR US? UH, NO.
I THINK THEY, WHETHER NO YOU PERSPECTIVE FROM IT, UH, MAINLY BECAUSE IN THE FAIRGROUND DISTRICT IT WAS SOMETHING ABOUT, UM, ABUTTING A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT AND THERE'S NO RESIDENCY MAYOR, SO I'M JUST
DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NOPE.
OKAY, THEN I JUST OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
CINDY, DO YOU HAVE THE NOTICE? NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN THAT THE TOWN OF HAMBURG PLANNING BOARD WILL CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING ON A PROPOSAL BY BELL ATLANTIC MOBILE SYSTEMS LLC TO INSTALL AND OPERATE A TELECOMMUNICATION FACILITY NEAR 5 6 0 0 MCKINLEY PARKWAY.
PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE HELD ON AUGUST 16TH, 2023 AT 7:00 PM AT IN ROOM SEVEN B OF HAMBURG TOWN HALL.
SO A PUBLIC HEARING IS CALLED TO ORDER.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO BE HEARD ON BELL ATLANTIC SECOND TIME? ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THE BELL ATLANTIC SPEAKING AND FOR THE THIRD TIME, ANYONE TO SPEAK ON VALID ATLANTIC? OKAY.
I MAKE I MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE DO HAVE PARDON? OH, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
DENNIS, WE SHOULDA LEFT YOU IN CHARGE.
SO WE DO HAVE RESOLUTIONS THAT JOSH, UM, PREPARED FOR US.
WE CAN MOVE ON THEM TONIGHT UNLESS YOU ALL FEEL DIFFERENTLY.
I CAN READ THE SEEKER AND SITE PLAN RESOLUTIONS FOR BELL ATLANTIC MOBILE SYSTEMS LLC, WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG RECEIVED A SITE PLAN APPLICATION FROM BELL ATLANTIC MOBILE SYSTEMS LLC TO INSTALL AND OPERATE A TELECOMMUNICATIONS FACILITY NEAR 56 0 0 MCKINLEY PARKWAY, HAMBURG FAIRGROUNDS.
AND WHEREAS THE HAMBURG PLANNING BOARD HELD THE REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARING AND RECEIVED COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC AND SAY, RECEIVED NO COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.
AND WHEREAS THE HAMBURG PLANNING BOARD IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE NEW YORK STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT, SE HAS DONE A THOROUGH REVIEW OF THE PROJECT AND ITS POTENTIAL IMPACTS AND COMPLETING PART TWO AND THREE OF THE FEAF.
AND WHEREAS THE HAMBURG PLANNING BOARD IN ACCORDANCE WITH CCRA HAS DETERMINED THAT THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN APPROVAL AND INSTALLATION AND OPERATION OF THE TELECOMMUNICATION FACILITY WILL NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE NATURAL RESOURCES OF THE STATE AND OR THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE PUBLIC AND IS CONSISTENT WITH SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC CONSIDERATIONS.
NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN OF HAMBURG PLANNING BOARD HEREBY DETERMINE THAT THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN APPROVAL AND INSTALLATION AND OPERATION OF THE TELECOMMUNICATION FACILITY IS NOT ANTICIPATED TO RESULT IN ANY SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AND THAT A NEGATIVE DECLARATION IS HEREBY ISSUED AND THAT THE PLANNING BOARD CHAIRPERSON, JOSH CHAIRPERSON IS AUTHORIZED TO SIGN THE EAF, WHICH WILL ACT AS THE NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SITE PLAN RESOLUTION FOR BELL ATLANTIC SECOND.
I THINK I SAID SITE PLAN FOR THE MINUTES.
UM, YOU WANNA JUST NOTE ON THERE THAT UH, WE DID NOT RESTART THE RECORDING AT 7:00 PM YES.
WE DID NOT RESTART THE RECORDING AT 7:00 PM SO WE MISSED THE BE ATLANTIC PUBLIC HEARING, NO COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED.
PUSHING THE BUTTON AND THAT, UM, THAT EVERYTHING WAS APPROVED.
WELL, SO FAR SEEKER HAS BEEN APPROVED.
I'M ABOUT TO READ THE SITE PLAN RESOLUTION.
SO SITE PLAN, THE TOWN OF HAMBURG PLANNING BOARD HEREBY GRANTS SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR THE BELL ATLANTIC MOBILE SYSTEMS LLC TELECOMMUNICATION PROJECT TO BE LOCATED NEAR 56 0 0 MCKINLEY PARKWAY WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
APPROVAL IS CONTINGENT UPON THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT COMMENT LETTER DATED MARGO, I'M ACTUALLY GONNA ASK TO JUST TAKE THAT CONDITION OUT BECAUSE MY ENGINEERING COMMENT LETTER SAYS THAT I HAVE NO COMMENTS AND NO ISSUE WITH
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THE SITE PLAN.SO THERE'S NOTHING TO FOLLOW UP WITH ENGINEERING.
I WILL SIGN OFF ON THIS SHOULD IT GET APPROVAL.
I WILL SIGN OFF ON THE SITE PLAN TOMORROW.
UM, SO CONDITION ONE, THE OWNER WILL ALLOW OTHER USERS ON THE BOWL IF POSSIBLE, AND THE PLANNING BOARD WAIVES THE INSTALLATION OF SIDEWALKS.
I MOVE TO APPROVE THE SITE PLAN RESOLUTION FOR BELL ATLANTIC MOBILE SYSTEMS LLC.
OKAY, SO JUST FOR THE MINUTES, THAT WAS MOVED BY MARGO AND SECOND BY CINDY GRANT.
OH, I AM SO GLAD I HAVE THIS TEAM.
AND THE SITE PLAN, THE SEEKER RESOLUTION FOR THE MINUTES WAS MOVED BY DENNIS, I BELIEVE AND SECONDED BY DAN, MAYBE? NO.
SO BELLA, LLC WAS MOVED BY DENNIS AND BY CINDY.
CINDY WANTS US TO HAVE ALL OF OUR DUCKS IN A ROW APPROPRIATELY.
SO MOVING ON, WE HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING, THIS TIME FOR THE WESTERN.
SO YOU CAN CONNECT WITH JOSH AND ELISE.
MOVING ON TO A PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING FOR WEST HER, UH, REQUESTING SITE PLAN DIRECTION ON A PROPOSAL TO DEMOLISH AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND CONSTRUCT A VEHICLE TOWING LOT ON A 0.5 ACRE LOT AT 3,600 SOLES ROAD.
A CHAIR, ROBERT PAD FROM
UH, I'M HERE WITH JAMES MALKA.
BRIAN WESTER, HE'S THE FACILITIES DIRECTOR FOR ALL OF WESTER AND I'M ALSO HERE WITH PETER SOGI THIS EVENING ON THE LAW FIRM OF HOPKINS SOGI AND MCCARTHY.
AND, UH, WE PRESENTED THIS TO YOU, WE SPOKE AT LENGTH ABOUT THIS PROJECT LAST MONTH.
I WASN'T GONNA ELABORATE AGAIN ON A LOT OF THE DETAILS.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THOSE IN CONNECTION WITH THIS HALF ACRE PARCEL.
I DID WANNA JUST MENTION A COUPLE OF HIGHLIGHTS SINCE THE LAST MEETING, AND I MAY HAVE TO WALK UP TO POINT TO THE SITE PLAN BECAUSE THANK YOU.
UM, ONE OF THE, UH, ISSUES THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED IS THAT THE REVIEW BY THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION IS PENDING.
WE'VE SUBMITTED DRAINAGE CALCULATIONS TO THEM.
WE'VE SUBMITTED A SUN PLAN SHOWING WHERE WE HAVE MOVED THE DRIVEWAY AS FAR EAST ON THE PARCEL AS WE COULD.
UM, WEST HER HAS CONFIRMED THAT THE OPERATIONAL HOURS FOR THIS SITE WILL BE FROM 8:00 AM TO 6:00 PM THAT WAS A QUESTION THAT CAME UP LAST MONTH AND WE WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT FOR THE BOARD.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE'S BEEN EXISTING HOME LOCATED ON, NEAR ON OREGON ROAD.
UH, WE WERE ASKED, WE HAD A 12 FOOT OFFSET BETWEEN THE, THE HOUSE ACTUALLY SITS RIGHT ON THE PROPERTY LINE.
WE HAD A 12 FOOT OFFSET ON THAT, UH, DIMENSION TO WHERE WE START OUR PROJECT WITH THE FENCE.
WE'VE ELIMINATED TWO PARKING SPACES AND INCREASED THAT OFFSET DIMENSION TO 23.8 FEET.
AND ALSO IN ADDITION, WE'VE CREATED LANDSCAPING AROUND THAT AREA.
TREES IN THE BACK ALONG THE NORTH, PROPERTY LINE TREES ALONG THE EAST.
WE ARE REQUIRED BY CODE TO INSTALL AN EIGHT FOOT STOCK GATE FENCE AROUND THE SITE, WHICH WE'VE DONE.
AND WE DO HAVE CHAIN LENGTH FENCE AROUND THE, UH, FRONT OF THE SITE, FLOOR SECURITY.
THOSE ARE THE BIG ISSUES THAT WE DISCUSSED LAST TIME.
UH, THERE IS A HOUSE ON THE PROPERTY THAT'S GONNA BE DEMOLISHED.
UM, THERE IS A GARAGE THERE THAT'S GONNA BE RENOVATED AND BE USED AS AN OFFICE.
WE DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL BE FULLY EQUIPPED WITH PLUMBING AT THIS POINT, BUT OBVIOUSLY IF IT DOES COME TO NEEDING PLUMBING FACILITIES IN THE BUILDING, WE WILL BE DOING THAT.
SO, UH, WE HAVE SUBMITTED A LANDSCAPE PLAN.
WE'VE MODIFIED THE PLANNINGS ALONG SOUTHWESTERN BOULEVARD.
WE INITIALLY HAD SHOWED SOME TREES IN THERE.
THAT'S REALLY NOT A GOOD ISSUE, UH, TO HAVE FROM A SITE DISTANCE, UH, STANDPOINT AS FAR AS VEHICLES BEING ABLE TO MOVE IN AND OUT OF THERE.
SO WE'VE PUT LOW PLANTINGS ALONG THE ENTIRE FRONTAGE.
WE'VE GOT PLANTINGS HERE ADJACENT TO THE STATE'S DETENTION BASIN.
AND AS I INDICATED BEFORE, WE HAVE THE, THE ADDITIONAL TREES ADJACENT TO OUR NEIGHBOR ON OREGON ROAD AND TO THE NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH, UH, BEHIND US.
SO I'M HERE WITH JIM AND PETER, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO TRY AND ANSWER THIS, DENNIS.
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I I GOT TWO.JUST A A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
AND THIS ONE, YOU SAY THE HOURS ARE OPERATION BETWEEN EIGHT TO 6:00 PM CORRECT? 8:00 AM YEAH.
IN OUR LAST MEETING YOU MENTIONED THAT THEY MIGHT BE TOWING VEHICLES IN THERE AT MIDNIGHT, NINE O'CLOCK, 10 O'CLOCK.
NOT OUT OF THOSE OPERATIONAL HOURS THAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN BY WEST HER.
AND I KNOW THAT WAS A CONCERN THAT WAS BROUGHT UP.
I THINK YOU BROUGHT THAT UP, CINDY.
UM, YEAH, SO EIGHT TO 8:00 AM TO 6:00 PM AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT SUNDAYS OR ANYTHING, JIM, IF YOU CAN ELABORATE, I CAN ELABORATE ON THAT.
UH, JIM
SO IF WE HAVE VEHICLES THAT NEED TO GET MOVED FROM ONE DEALERSHIP TO THE OTHER THAT ARE EITHER INCAPACITATED, CAN'T GET THERE, WE USE THE TOW TRUCKS.
A LOT OF TIMES WE DO EXCHANGES WHERE WE DON'T WANT TO ADD MILEAGE TO A VEHICLE TO DRIVE IT FROM HERE TO ROCHESTER TO SYRACUSE.
WE HAVE THREE TOWING VEHICLES CURRENTLY THAT WE UTILIZE.
SO THIS ISN'T, YOU KNOW, AAA CALLS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, SOMEBODY STRANDED ON THE FREEWAY THAT, YOU KNOW, AND I GOT A WRECK OR SOMETHING.
THAT'S NOT WHAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING HERE.
THE INTERNAL WEST FUNCTION TAKE.
AND THE LAST THING I HAD WAS THAT BUILDING HAS TO HAVE RUNNING WATER AND UTILITIES.
WHATEVER THE BUILDING CODE REQUIRES, WE'LL COMPLY WITH, WE DID INDICATE THAT NEW, NEW SEWER AND WATER UTILITIES MAY BE REQUIRED FOR THAT AND WE'LL WORK THOSE DETAILS OUT IT.
UM, THE ONLY THING I'M GONNA ADD IS SOME TYPE TWO ACTION BECAUSE, UH, THE BUILDING IS WHAT, 600 SQUARE FEET? UH, ROUGHLY 400.
400, 4,000 TYPE TWO ACTION PER, ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? AND JOSH, WE'RE LOOKING ALSO AT A SPECIAL USE PERMIT HERE.
THIS IS ALLOWED IN THE C TWO UNDER THE TOWING AND RECOVERY IMPOUNDMENT AREAS, WHICH REQUIRES A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT LAST MEETING IS THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUIREMENTS, WHICH ARE THAT THE USE BE IN HARMONY WITH THE GENERAL PURPOSES AND INTENT OF THE CHAPTER.
IT WILL NOT CREATE A HAZARD TO HEALTH, SAFETY OR GENERAL WELFARE, WILL NOT ALTER THE ESSENTIAL CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, NOR BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE RESIDENTS THEREOF AND WILL NOT OTHERWISE BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC CONVENIENCE AND WELFARE.
SO WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED THAT APPLICATION YET, BUT THERE'RE BUT NOT, IT'S, YES, IT'S BEING
I JUST THINK THAT'S ALWAYS HELPFUL TO REMEMBER AS WE'RE YEP.
TAKING COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC AND WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IN CONNECTION WITH THE SITE PLAN REQUEST FOR ALSO FOR THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
CINDY NOTICES HEREBY GIVEN THAT THE TOWN OF HAMBURG PLANNING BOARD WILL CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING ON A PROPOSAL BY WEST HER AUTOMATIC AUTOMOTIVE TO DEMOLISH AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND TO CONSTRUCT A VEHICLE TOWING LOT ON 0.5 ACRE LOT AT 3 6 0 0.
SO GROVE, THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE HELD ON AUGUST 16TH, 2023 AT 7:00 PM IN ROOM SEVEN B OF THE HAMBURG TOWN HALL.
SO WITH THAT WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I WANNA NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT THE BOARD HAS RECEIVED SOME COMMENTS FROM BOTH THE NEIGHBORS AND THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY BOARD IN ADVANCE OF THIS MEETING.
UM, WE'LL ALSO TAKE ANY COMMENTS YOU HAVE TONIGHT.
SO THE FIRST PERSON I HAVE SIGNED UP IS MARK AND MARY ROSE WHITMAN.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO? ANYONE ELSE TO BE HEARD ON THIS PROJECT? COME ON UP.
CAN YOU SPELL YOUR LAST NAME FOR THE RECORD? C-A-R-N-E-V-A-L-A.
THIS PROJECT IS BEING PROPOSED.
WINDOWS BEEN SHINE 30 YEARS LATER AND HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AMONG OTHER MEMBERS OF THE DONNA HANDBOOK AT THIS LOCATION.
IT'S THE WORST TRAFFIC VIOLATION.
EXITUS, I HAVE THIS FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
IT WAS CONDUCTED FROM 1914 TO 1919.
IT WAS 19 TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS OVER THERE.
RECOMMENDED, UH, TRAFFIC STUDY ON SOUTHWESTERN FOR ONE THING.
WHAT? AND THEN THIS PROJECT DOESN'T FIT THIS AREA.
THE APPLICANT HAS MANY OTHER LOCATION THAT THEY CAN DO THIS TYPE
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OF BUSINESS.IT'S NOT REALLY A SO CRITICAL, UH, BUS.
WE HAVE, UH, A POND ALONGSIDE OF THIS PROJECT THAT THEY WANNA USE, BUT THIS FARM IS FULLY MAINTAINED.
IT DOESN'T ACCEPT THE WATER THAT RUNS INTO IT NOW, AND THEY WANNA INCREASE IT.
UH, A LOT OF HOMES ARE GOING TO BE BUILT, BUT THOSE ROAD CAN'T GROW AND ALL THAT WATER'S GONNA BE GOING INTO THIS POND.
THERE'S A, A, A FAMILY THAT LIVES AT THE END OF OREGON, WHICH WE LIVE.
THERE'S ONLY THREE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE.
AND THIS, UH, DRY WICK IS FLOODED ALL THE TIME.
WHEN YOU HAVE A REALLY HEAVY, HEAVY RAIN, THE OVERFLOW KNOCK.
SO THIS POND DOESN'T BE ABLE TO ACCEPT ANY MORE WATER.
AND, AND THIS POND DRAINS INTO A SMALL DITCH, WHICH CAUSES STANDING WATER, SMELLS, MOSQUITOES, OCEAN THAT BLOCKS THE FLOW.
THE ENGINEERING ENGINEERING HAS GIVES AN IDEA WHAT THIS LITTLE DITCH DOES, DOING A GREAT STUFF, A HEAVY BRIDGE.
WHEN I, WHEN I MOVED THERE, IT WAS A LITTLE DCO ON THAT GRID.
NOW IT'S LIKE A MISSISSIPPI RIVER.
THOSE PICTURES WILL SHOW THAT.
AND THE DAWN ENGINEERS HAS LOOKED AT IT.
SHE HAS, I ASSUME WHAT I, UH, OKAY.
SO WE ARE, WE ARE JUST TAKING ALL YOUR COMMENTS IN TONIGHT, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S SOME WORRIES ABOUT DRAINAGE AND COMMUNITY CHARACTER.
AND WE'VE GOT, DO YOU HAVE WRITTEN COMMENTS FOR US? YOU'VE PROVIDED THE PICTURES I GAVE YOU THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY BOARD LETTER THAT WE A GOOD RECOMMENDATION, BUT THE WORST THING IS TRAFFIC.
GETTING IN AND OUT OF OREGON, IT'S, I PAST EVERYBODY THAT, UH, TRAVELED THERE, NOTICE IT EVEN, UH, I'M SURPRISED THEY'RE NOT FULL BOARD HERE BECAUSE THERE SO MANY BOARD MEMBERS LIVE NOT TOO FAR FROM THERE.
THEY'D DRIVE DOWN THERE ALTERNATE.
AND I ALWAYS STOP BEFORE THE SPEED, BEFORE THE INTERSECTION.
PARDON ME? I ALWAYS STOP BEFORE OREGON.
THERE'S A SIGN THERE SEES IT, RIGHT? NO, SEE IT THERE.
SO WE HAVE YOUR COMMENTS ON THE RECORD.
WE'LL OFFER LEONA THE CHANCE TO SPEAK ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE RECORD THIS EVENING? WELL, I, I WOULD SUGGEST I DON'T TELL YOU WHAT TO DO, BUT I WOULD SUGGEST TO TABLE AND, AND LOOK AT, UH, FOR THIS PROJECT COULD BE PLACED ELSEWHERE.
NOT THAT IT IS, WE DON'T LIKE IT.
IT'S THE, THE NOISE POLLUTION LIGHTS.
IS THIS OPERATION GONNA BE 24 HOURS A DAY? NO.
ARE THE LIGHTS GONNA BE ON ALL NIGHT? NO, THE APPLICANT JUST, THEY JUST CLARIFIED TODAY THAT THE OPERATING HOURS ARE EIGHT TO 6:00 PM AND THEY WON'T BE BRINGING CARS IN AT NIGHT.
UH, IF THERE, IF THERE IS LIGHTING, IT'LL HAVE TO BE DARK SKY COMPLIANT, WHICH MEANS IT GOES STRAIGHT DOWN SO THERE'S NO, NO LIGHT GOING OUT RIGHT OR LEFT.
WE KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE, WE HAVE LIGHTS THAT RIGHT ACROSS ABOUT WESTERN NOW TO DO THE SAME THING.
BUT WE SEE FROM OUR HOME, FROM OUR ROOMS, THEY HAVE A, UH, A SIGN WEST, HER BIG SIGN.
AND THAT WHEN THAT SLIDE UP, WE CAN SEE RIGHT FROM THE KITCHEN, UH, WINDOW.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT DISTURBING A HUNDRED PERCENT, BUT IT'S DISTURBING.
SO ANY ADDITION TO IT, I'M SURE IT'S GONNA GO SELL.
WELL, WE'D HAVE TO SEE THE, THE, THE SITE PLAN TO SEE WHAT KIND SIGNER PUTTING UP WITH THE SIGNS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
IT'S NOT NEW, SO WE REALLY CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.
I HOPE THIS BOARD CAN DO SOME RECOMMENDATION
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BECAUSE I'VE BEEN A LOT OF TALKING ON, ON THAT TRAFFIC.HE WROTE LETTERS TO ALBANY, BUFFALO.
THEY PROMISED A LOT OF THINGS THAT THEY WERE WOULDN'T DO.
SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S BEEN SOME TIME THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO UH, UH, HAVE SOME KIND OF, UH, THE, DO SOME IMPROVEMENT.
AND, AND WHEN IN THE WINTERTIME, WHEN THE SNOW PLOW COMES BY BOX ROLL MM-HMM
THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT, THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT THERE'S, UH, A LADY DOWN LIVED ON THE END OF THE STREETS.
SHE JUST HAD A BABY ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO AND THEY HAD A TOUGH TIME GETTING OUT OF IT BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC.
SO I HOPE SOMEBODY WILL, SOMEBODY FROM THIS SCHOOL, MAYBE IF THEY FIND TIME, UH, PICK A OKAY.
THANK YOU FOR THE INVITATION AND FOR THE COMMENTS.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO BE HEARD ON WEST HER? I SEE THIS IS YOUR NEW MATTER.
WHY YOUR BIG COMPASS IS COVERING THE EXIT FOR LOW'S.
YOU COVERED IT UP WITH THAT ON PURPOSE.
WHAT'S YOUR NAME? YOU WANNA SPEAK YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? DAVID CURRENT VALLEY.
SIT DOWN AND YOU CAN'T AFFORD A BUILDING PERMIT AND YOU'RE GONNA KEEP THAT RAT INFESTED BARN.
MAKE YOUR COMMENTS TO US, NOT TO ANYBODY ELSE.
IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING YOU ADDRESS US.
IT IS THE MAP FOR PRESENTATION FOR THE BOARD.
BUT WE HEAR YOU, YOU HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE BUILDING STRUCTURE, ABOUT TRAFFIC, ABOUT SAFETY.
I'M HEARING YOU SPOKE AT THE SAME PROBLEM.
AND CAN, CAN YOU JUST EXPRESS FOR THE RECORD SO THAT WE HAVE THEM AND WE UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.
YOUR CONCERNS ARE, ARE TRAFFIC THE BUILDING THAT'S REMAINING LOW THAT THEY COVERED IT UP SOMEWHERE? NO.
I, I, WE KNOW IT'S THERE, BUT IT'S NOT PART OF THIS.
BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT PART OF THIS, THIS PROJECT, BUT IT'S PART OF THE TRAFFIC NOW.
YOUR DAD ALREADY MENTIONED TRAFFIC.
ANYONE ELSE TO BE HEARD THIS EVENING ON WEST TURF? COME ON UP AND JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND SPELL YOUR LAST NAME FOR THE RECORD.
YOU CAN GET CLOSE TO THIS BIG MIC HERE.
I GOT A QUESTION IF THIS PARCEL IS BEING REZONED, I ASSUME ANYWAYS MM-HMM
I MEAN, MY GENERAL CONCERN IS YOU CAN SEE WE'RE BEING ENCROACHED UPON.
I JUST MAKE A STATEMENT THAT WE WE'RE THREE HOMEOWNERS ON THE STREET.
AND I KNOW THAT IS PERHAPS NOT RELEVANT IN THE LARGER SCHEME OF THINGS, BUT I GREW CONCERNED AS I LOOK TO RELOCATE, IF THAT'S EVEN CONCEIVABLE BEING WHERE I SIT WITH THOSE NEXT TO ME, PALMS AROUND ME.
I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE A DISCERNABLE PROPERTY UNLESS IT SOLD COMMERCIALLY, QUITE FRANKLY.
AND I, A FAIRLY LARGE CONCERN FOR ME.
IT'S MY MOST VALUABLE ASSET, MAYBE, UH, A LOT LESS THAN I THOUGHT IT WOULD 20 YEARS AGO.
UM, A COUPLE REGULAR DAY CONCERNS IS SNOW REMOVAL AND THE VEHICLES THAT DO SUCH, SUCH SNOW REMOVAL.
IS THERE A PLAN FOR THAT? UM, WE FACE ISSUES CURRENTLY WITH THE LOWEST PARKING LOT BEING MACHINES AT ALL HOURS THE DAY OF NIGHT.
NO, NOTHING EVER SEEMS TO CHANGE THAT.
AND IT'S HAVING YOUR ALARM CLOCK GO OFF EVERY 30 SECONDS, ALL NIGHT LONG FOR NIGHT.
SO SNOW REMOVAL IS A BIG CONCERN FOR ME.
OUR, UH, I, I DON'T IMAGINE THIS, THIS LESSER THING IS GONNA CREATE TOO MUCH COMMOTION.
I THINK IT'S PROBABLY NOT SICK CARS, NOT TOO CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, BUT NOISE IS A CONCERN.
UM, LIGHTING FOR ME IS NOT MUCH A CONCERN, BUT I DO KNOW HOW THE LIGHTS REALLY DO WORK AND THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS LIKE THEY SHOULD.
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FLOODING OUR HOME FROM LOWS AND THAT'S JUST, UH, BECOME NORMAL QUITE FRANKLY.I DON'T THINK TRAFFIC TRAFFICKING THE FACILITY IS GONNA BE A BIG DEAL.
UM, IT IS QUITE CLOSE TO OUR STREET.
UM, BUT MY MAJOR CONCERN IS THE ENCROACHMENT AROUND MY PROPERTY AND MY RESELL ABILITY SET PROPERTY, WHICH IS DWINDLING.
I'M NOT SURPRISED TO SEE WEST COMING ACROSS THE ROAD.
UM, THAT'S NOT A BIG SURPRISE, BUT, UM, SNOW REMOVAL CREATES A LOT OF NOISE.
AND WE HAVE KIDS AND WE ALL HAVE, WE HAVE JOBS AND WE HAVE SCHOOL AND, UM, THAT'S WHAT I SAID.
ANYONE ELSE TO BE HEARD ON WESTER? LEON, DID YOU WANNA SPEAK FOR THE CAB? UM, YOU, YOU SHOULD ALL HAVE OUR STATEMENT.
THAT'S OUR, THAT'S OUR POSITION.
UM, OUR CONCERNS AND THE SUGGESTED MITIGATIONS.
THEN I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THAT WAS A MOTION BY CHAIRPERSON FOR TODAY, VALENTI SECOND BY CINDY
AND SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE FURTHER INFORMATION THAT WE NEED FROM THE APPLICANT IN RESPONSE TO SOME OF THESE COMMENTS AND CONCERNS ABOUT SNOW REMOVAL DROUGHT.
DO YOU WANT US TO RESPOND? JUST
ALL ALL I WAS WANTED TO POINT OUT, JUST TO CLARIFY, THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT THE REZONING AND YOU ANSWERED THAT, THAT THIS IS ZONED PROPERLY VIA SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
UM, THE TRAFFIC IS GONNA BE VERY, VERY MINIMAL.
I THINK SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS THERE ABOUT THE EXISTING TRAFFIC, WE'RE NOT GONNA ADD TO THAT VERY MUCH.
WE DO KNOW IT'S A SMALL LOT HALF AN ACRE, BUT WITHIN THE C TWO, THERE ARE USES THAT COULD GO IN THERE.
I MEAN, UH, YOU DON'T NEED A SPECIAL USE PERMIT OR, OR PERHAPS YOU DO, BUT YOU COULD PUT A, A RESTAURANT, UH, OBVIOUSLY A DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT IS, IS ZONED FOR THAT SITE.
THERE WOULD BE A MUCH, MUCH GREATER TRAFFIC.
THIS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE TOW TRUCKS.
SO THAT'S ALL YOU WANNA SAY, BUT WE'LL CERTAINLY, UH, RESPECT THE COMMENTS AND WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE A RESPONSE IN WRITING AND WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
JUST TO ADD TO THAT, PETER, WE DID RECEIVE THE COMMENTS FROM THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY BOARD AND WE WILL RESPOND TO THOSE IN WRITING.
WE ARE WAITING, ONE OF THE COMMENTS ADDRESS THE DRAINAGE AS THE NEIGHBOR HAD INDICATED.
AND WE ARE WAITING FROM RESPONSE FROM THE DOT IN CONNECTION WITH OUR NEW CURB CUT AND OUR DRAINAGE CALCULATIONS.
I HAD ALREADY TALKED TO CAMMY ABOUT THE DRAINAGE CALCULATIONS AND UM, WE ARE WAITING FOR THE DOT TO RESPOND TO US AND SO THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS.
UM, I DID HAVE ONE OTHER THING.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE ASKED FOR IS TO HAVE OUR OWN TRAFFIC SAFETY BOARD EVALUATE THE SITUATION WITH THE TRAFFIC.
AND, UM, I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT PROCEEDS, UM, WHO ASKS THAT TO HAPPEN OR IF IT DOES HAPPEN.
BUT WE DO HAVE A BOARD IN THE TOWN THAT FUNCTIONS, AND THAT WAS ONE OF OUR SUGGESTIONS.
WE, WE CAN SEEK THAT INPUT FROM THE TRAFFIC SAFETY, TRAFFIC SAFETY HAS RECEIVED THE SITE PLAN.
I HAVE NOT RECEIVED WRITTEN COMMENT, BUT I WILL FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
SO WE ARE, WE'RE AWAITING A FEW OTHER BODIES TO WEIGH IN ON THIS, PARTICULARLY DOT AND TRAFFIC SAFETY.
SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS TO WHAT'S OUR NEXT AVAILABLE DATE, JOSH? SEPTEMBER 20TH.
AND IF YOU'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE ANY FOLLOW UP TO ANY OF THE COMMENTS ABOUT SNOW REMOVAL OR ANY OF THE KIND OF LOGISTICS THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
WE'LL DO THAT IN THE OTHER ROOM.
ALRIGHT, SO OUR FINAL AGENDA ITEM THIS EVENING IS LIBERATORY MANAGEMENT REQUESTING SITE PLAN APPROVAL ON A WAREHOUSE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT TO BE LOCATED AT BURKE PARKWAY.
UH, PETER, AGAIN, ON BEHALF OF, OH, WE'RE MISSING SEAN TONIGHT.
IS THAT, THAT THE ISSUE? YEAH.
DON'T TAKE THAT PERSON PERMISSION.
UM, THIS PROJECT, HONESTLY, UM, I I BELIEVE YOU'VE SEEN IT SEVERAL TIMES IN THERE.
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BEEN PREPARED IS MY UNDERSTANDING.UM, SO IF YOU'S ANY QUESTIONS? SO I THINK THEY'VE ALL BEEN ADDRESSED AND I BELIEVE THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT HAS SIGNED OFF ON THIS.
I, UH, WE SENT THE PROJECT TO END HUMAN OR HE LOOKED AT LOOKING AT THE TURNAROUND AND THE EASEMENT, UM, SPECIFICALLY LOOKING REMOVAL.
UH, HIS CORRESPONDING WITH CHRIS WAS, AND THAT I SHOULD MENTION.
BUT I THINK CHRIS, THERE'S QUESTIONS, BUT YEAH.
SO THAT, THAT WAS THE LAST OUTSTANDING QUESTION WE HAD WAS THIS IS THE PROJECT WHERE, UM, BUR PARKWAY THAT RUNS KIND OF PERPENDICULAR MCKINLEY, THEY HAVE TO EXTEND THE ROAD TO BUILD SOME WAREHOUSES IN WHAT IS ALREADY KIND OF A, A SEA OF PARKING LOT.
AND UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S COMMERCIAL BUT COMMERCIAL AREAS, UM, THEY NEEDED TO EXTEND THAT INTO THE PAPER STREET, WHICH YOU'VE GOTTEN PERMISSION TO DO.
WE WERE WAITING ON ED AT HIGHWAY, UM, WHO WANTED THE ENSURE THERE WAS A SNOW REMOVAL EASEMENT, WHICH WE'LL BE TAKEN CARE OF.
AND THAT WAS OUR LAST OUTSTANDING ISSUE.
SO IF NO ONE HAS ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, WE DO HAVE RESOLUTIONS PREPARED FOR TONIGHT THAT WERE APPROVED OR AUTHORIZED AT THE LAST MEETING.
SO WITH THAT, I WILL READ THE RESOLUTION FOR SEEKER FOR THE BURKE PARKWAY 3 9 8 4 BURKE PARKWAY WAREHOUSE DEVELOPMENT.
SO WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG RECEIVED A SITE PLAN APPLICATION FROM LIBERATORY MANAGEMENT TO CONSTRUCT TWO 16,000 SQUARE FOOT WAREHOUSES AND YEAH.
EXCUSE ME SIR ROBERTA, I GOT THE MIC RIGHT HERE.
AND SHE'S ALSO TRYING TO RECORD IT ON THE RECORDER.
SEEKER RESOLUTION FOR 3 9 8 4 BURKE PARKWAY WAREHOUSE DEVELOPMENT WHERE THE TOWN OF HAMBURG RECEIVED A SITE PLAN APPLICATION FROM LIBERATORY MANAGEMENT TO CONSTRUCT TWO 16,000 SQUARE FOOT WAREHOUSES AND ONE 12,000 SQUARE FOOT WAREHOUSE BUILDINGS ON A 3.7 ACRE PARCEL.
AND WHEREAS THE HAMBURG PLANNING BOARD HELD THE REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARING AND RECEIVED COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC, AND WHEREAS THE HAMBURG PLANNING BOARD IN ACCORDANCE WITH NEW YORK STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT, CCRA HAS DONE A THOROUGH REVIEW OF THE PROJECT AND ITS POTENTIAL IMPACTS.
AND WHEREAS THE HAMBURG PLANNING BOARD IN ACCORDANCE WITH CCRA HAS DETERMINED THAT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE THREE WAREHOUSE BUILDINGS WILL NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE NATURAL RESOURCES OF THE STATE AND OR THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE PUBLIC AND IS CONSISTENT WITH SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC CONSIDERATIONS.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, THE TOWN OF HAMBURG PLANNING BOARD HEREBY DETERMINES THAT THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN APPROVAL AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE THREE WAREHOUSE BUILDINGS IS NOT ANTICIPATED TO RESULT IN ANY SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.
AND THAT A NEGATIVE DECLARATION IS HEREBY ISSUED AND THAT THE PLANNING BOARD CHAIRPERSON IS AUTHORIZED TO SIGN THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM EAF, WHICH WILL ACT AS THE NEGATIVE DECLARATION AS A MOTION BY CHAIRPERSON TODAY.
WE HAVE ANOTHER RE ENTERTAINED.
WE HAVE ANOTHER RESOLUTION FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL BASED ON THE REVIEW OF THE BURKE PARKWAY WAREHOUSE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.
AND HAVING COMPLETED THE SEEKER PROCESS, THE HAMBURG PLANNING BOARD HEREBY APPROVES THE PROJECT WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS AND DETERMINATIONS.
APPROVAL IS CONTINGENT UPON THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT COMMENT LETTER DATED AUGUST 11TH.
THE LANDSCAPING PLAN SHALL BE APPROVED BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT SITE PLAN.
APPROVAL IS CONTINGENT ON APPROVAL FROM HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT.
NO, WE RECEIVED THAT SO WE CAN REMOVE THAT CONDITION.
ANY OTHER CONDITIONS? I DON'T THINK SO.
SO I WILL MOVE TO APPROVE THE SITE PLAN RESOLUTION.
THAT IS THE END OF THE AGENDA.
SO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
UM, SO WE NEED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM SEVEN.
WHAT WAS THE DATE OF OUR LAST MEETING? UH, NINTH.
ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE SEVEN 19 MINUTES OR NO? AUGUST 2ND MINUTES.
WE HAVE TO DO THE AUGUST 2ND MINUTES.
BUT DO WE DO THE SEVEN 19 YET? WE ALREADY DID.
AND THE MEETING MATERIALS MINUTES? YEAH.
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THERE NO, THERE ARE NO MEDS IF FOLDERS EMPTY.WE HAVE AUGUST, SECOND MINUTES.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE MINUTES FROM AUGUST 2ND, I DON'T THINK.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE TO DISCUSS THEN JENNIFER, BEFORE WE CLOSE THE MEETING? OKAY.
ANYONE? MOTION TO ADJOURN? SECOND.
THE 8 6 16 MEETING OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG PLANNING BOARD IS ADJOURNED.