* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:03:53] TO ORDER, PLEASE JOIN ME WITH A PLEDGE OF THE FLAG PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE DUE THE FLAG IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC ONE ONE NATION INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY NELSON. ALRIGHT, BEFORE WE GET INTO THE AGENDA, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT WE RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM A MR. SAMUEL LEWANDOWSKI, AND BY PROCESS OF ELIMINATION, I'M GONNA ASSUME THAT WOULD BE YOU, UM, STATING THAT MR. BALKI UNFORTUNATELY HAD A PRIOR ENGAGEMENT SCHEDULED FOR THIS EVENING THAT HE WAS UNABLE TO GET OUT OF, BUT HE WANTED TO LET THE BOARD KNOW THAT HE'LL BE LISTENING REMOTELY AND THAT MR. LEWANDOWSKI WILL BE ATTENDING ON HIS BEHALF. UH, MR. LEWANDOWSKI, DOES THIS MEAN HE WON'T BE WITH US FOR THE WORK SESSION OR HE WON'T BE WITH US FOR THE ENTIRE EVENING? UH, HE SHOULD BE HERE LATER ON FOR THE WORK SESSION. WELL, THIS IS THE WORK SESSION TOWN BOARD. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE THREE ITEMS ON THE WORK SECTION AGENDA TODAY. THE FIRST ONE [00:05:01] IS A PRESENTATION, UH, FROM MS. TIFFANY PAVONE, UH, FROM HAVEN HOUSE. HAVEN HOUSE HAS BEEN HELPING US OUT, UH, WITH OUR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CASES THAT COME THROUGH THE HE TOWN COURT. UH, AS, UH, AS I'M SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS, UH, THE LAST BUDGET ELIMINATED THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ADVOCATE, UH, FROM OUR TOWN BUDGET. THIS WAS A MOVE TO BRING US INTO CONSISTENT PRACTICE, UH, WITH THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT OPERATE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE UNITS THROUGHOUT THE ERIE COUNTY. UM, HAVEN HOUSE AND AGENCIES LIKE HAVEN HOUSE, UH, DO THIS WORK IN PARTNERSHIP WITH LOCAL COURTS AND LOCAL TOWNS. UM, HAVEN HOUSE HAS SUBMITTED A, UH, A AN OUTLINE OF A PROPOSAL, A BUDGET FOR A PROPOSAL TO PROVIDE SERVICES GOING FORWARD. IN THE PAST, THESE SERVICES HAD BEEN FUNDED, UH, DIFFERENTLY BY DIFFERENT LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT. UM, AND THAT FUNDING IS NOT AS ROBUST AS IT ONCE WAS. UH, SO HAVEN HOUSE WOULD BE LOOKING TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH THE TOWN OF HAMBURG TO PROVIDE SUCH SERVICES, UH, MS. POONE, THE FLOOR SHERIFFS. OKAY. AND I DID PROVIDE, UM, EVERYONE, WHICH IS KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT I'LL BE PRESENTING TODAY. SO THIS IS A LEAVE BEHIND FOR EVERYONE, UM, UH, AS I GO OVER IT. BUT FOR ANYBODY WHO'S NOT FAMILIAR WITH CHILD AND FAMILY SERVICES, UM, WE, UH, IN ADDITION TO HAVEN HOUSE TO HAVE A VARIETY OF OTHER PROGRAMS, WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN AROUND FOR OVER 150 YEARS, UM, PROVIDING SERVICES WITH HAVEN HOUSE BEING AROUND FOR, UM, SINCE 1979. SO 45 YEARS OF PROVIDING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SUPPORTS. BUT WHAT'S NICE ABOUT HAVEN HOUSE BEING, UM, PART AND PARCEL AND UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF CHILD AND FAMILY SERVICES IS THAT WE WANNA PROVIDE A FULL CONTINUUM OF CARE FOR INDIVIDUALS. WE KNOW, EVEN WHEN INDIVIDUALS COME TO US, SURVIVORS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS JUST ONE OF MANY ISSUES THAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH. SO THE ABILITY TO ALSO PROVIDE THE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT CHILD AND FAMILY SERVICES, UH, PROVIDES, PROVIDE THOSE WARM REFERRALS AND THAT EASY INTAKE INTO THE OTHER PROGRAMS. SO I DID LIST THE OTHER PROGRAMS, WHICH INCLUDE A COUNSELING CLINIC THAT DOES HAVE, UM, TRAUMA INFORMED CLINICIANS AS, UM, THAT CAN WORK WITH ON, UH, DV SURVIVORS. AND I APOLOGIZE, I'M AN ACRONYM PERSON, SO DV MEANING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. SO IF I SAY THAT, THAT'S WHAT, UM, I'M TALKING ABOUT, UM, THAT CAN HELP WORK WITH THEM LONG-TERM. OUR DD ADVOCATES DO SHORT-TERM DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CRISIS COUNSELING, BUT THE TRAUMA-INFORMED COUNSELORS CAN WORK ON THAT LONG-TERM COUNSELING. SO WE CAN MAKE THAT SHIFT OVER AS WELL. UM, WE HAVE A, UH, A, UH, SPECIAL EDUCATION PROGRAM. WE HAVE A YOUTH TRAFFICKING PROGRAM THAT ALSO FALLS UNDER MY UMBRELLA THAT WE HAVE JUST RECENTLY, UH, STARTED AS A SUB-GRANTEE OF THE INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE OF BUFFALO. THEY HAD FOUND, UM, THAT THEIR YOUTH TRAFFICKING PROGRAMS WERE ALMOST 99% US CITIZENS BEING AFFECTED BY IT. AND SINCE THEIR OMISSION IS REALLY WITH THE FOREIGN BORN, WE HAVE NOW, UM, TAKEN THAT OVER. WHEN, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT, ARE YOU REFERRING TO LIKE MAYBE SEEING A MOTHER TAKING THE CHILD AWAY FROM THEIR FATHER OUTTA STATE COMING HERE? OR NO. SO VICE VERSA OR MORE SO, UM, UH, NO. UM, WHEN YOU TRAFFIC SAFETY, I'M THINKING, YEAH, NO, THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT STILL FALLS UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. MM-HMM. UM, AND, AND THE, UM, ISSUES THAT FALL UNDER THERE, THE TRAFFICKING PROGRAM ARE FOR YOUTH THAT ARE AT RISK OR HAVE BEEN, UM, TRAFFICKED EITHER BY, IT COULD BE BY A PARENT, BUT OFTENTIMES IT'S BY AN OUTSIDER WHO BE FRIENDS THE CHILD, RIGHT. BECAUSE THEY'RE A CHILD THAT'S AT RISK THAT MIGHT BE LEAVING HOME BECAUSE OF THE VIOLENCE IN THE HOME. THERE IS A LOT OF OVERLAP. EVEN, UM, THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE SEE AT OUR SHELTER OFTENTIMES HAVE NOT JUST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, BUT THEIR TRAFFICKING. UM, O OFTENTIMES THEY THINK IT'S A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SITUATION AND REALIZE THAT THE OTHER PARTY THAT THEY'RE INVOLVED IN, IT'S NOT AN INTIMATE PARTNER RELATIONSHIP, THAT IT WASN'T NEVER INTENDED BY THE OTHER SIDE FOR IT TO BE AN INTIMATE RELATIONSHIP. RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. TRAFFICKING. SO BECAUSE OF THAT OVERLAP, WE NOW HAVE THAT PROGRAM AS WELL THAT, UM, CAN REALLY INCORPORATE, UM, AGAIN, A HOLISTIC APPROACH TO, UH, THE FAMILIES THAT COME TO US AND NEED SERVICES. HAVEN HOUSE ITSELF HAS A VARIETY OF SERVICES. SO IN ADDITION TO THE COURT ADVOCACY SERVICES, WHICH I WILL GO, UM, THROUGH WHAT WE CAN ACTUALLY PROVIDE THERE, WHAT WE HAVE AND PROBABLY ARE BEST KNOWN FOR ARE, UH, TEMPORARY EMERGENCY SHELTER. WE'RE THE ONLY, UH, STATE LICENSED CONFIDENTIAL DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SHELTER IN ERIE COUNTY. AND WE CURRENTLY CAN, UM, SLEEP, SO TO SPEAK, UM, UP TO 36 INDIVIDUALS. THAT'S HEADS AND BEDS. SO THAT MEANS BOTH, UM, PARENTS AND CHILDREN IN INCORPORATED IN THAT 36, UM, INDIVIDUALS CAN STAY UP TO 90 DAYS AND [00:10:01] THEN GET AN ADDITIONAL TWO 90 DAY EXTENSION WITH OUR HELP THROUGH, UH, DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES. AND THEN ONCE THEY'RE IN THE SHELTER, THEY CAN ALSO BE CONNECTED WITH OUR NON-RESIDENTIAL PROGRAMS, WHICH INCLUDE OUR COURT ADVOCACY PROGRAMS, WHERE WE HAVE SEVERAL ADVOCATES PLACED AT THE MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS. WE HAVE, UM, SUPPORT COUNSELING IN BOTH GROUP AND INDIVIDUAL SETTINGS. UM, WITH OUR NON-RES AN ART EMPOWERMENT PROGRAM, WE HAVE A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE EDUCATION PROGRAM, A PARENTING AFTER VIOLENCE PROGRAM. WE RUN A, UH, RAPID REHOUSING PROGRAM. SO IT'S EVEN THE NEXT STEP AFTER THE SHELTER, WE CAN HELP YOU GET THROUGH THE COORDINATED ENTRY PROCESS AND GET INTO RAPID REHOUSING. AND WE ALSO, UM, COORDINATE THE, UH, COUNTY'S HIGH RISK TEAM. UM, AND IT'S A VALUABLE RESOURCE THAT OFTENTIMES I FEEL LIKE IS A HIDDEN GEM. UM, BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE CASES THAT ARE AT HIGH RISK OF LETHALITY, THAT, UM, DANGER ASSESSMENT THAT DV ADVOCATES USE TO DETERMINE, UM, WHETHER OR NOT A SITUATION IS LIKELY TO GO LETHAL, UH, IF THEY'RE EXPERIENCING THAT THEY'RE ON THE HIGH LEVEL OF THAT ASSESSMENT, BUT ALSO SOME SORT OF SYSTEMS BARRIER, MAYBE THEY'VE, UH, ATTEMPTED TO GET AN ORDER OF PROTECTION IF FOR SOME REASON IT DIDN'T GO THROUGH. THEY GET AN ORDER OF PROTECTION, IT KEEPS GETTING VIOLATED, BUT FOR SOME REASON, THIS PERSON'S NOT GETTING PICKED UP. WE SIT AROUND A TABLE WITH A, A MULTIDISCIPLINARY TEAM OF VARIOUS POLICE JURISDICTIONS, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES, PROBATION, PAROLE, UH, VOLUNTEER LAWYERS PROJECT TO MAKE SURE WHATEVER THE SYSTEM'S BARRIER ISSUE IS, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AS A TEAM AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO KEEP THAT INDIVIDUAL SAFE SINCE WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE AT HIGH RISK OF VITALITY. SO THAT COMES IN ALONG WITH ANY OF THE SERVICES THAT HAVEN HOUSE PROVIDES, IS THAT ACCESS TO THE REST OF IT. AND SINCE ALMOST THE BEGINNING OF HAVEN HOUSE, WE'VE HAD COURT ADVOCACY, UM, SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE. SO WE DO CO-LOCATE, UM, SEVERAL, WE HAVE A TEAM OF COURT ADVOCATES THAT WE CO-LOCATE IN 18 OF THE TOWN IN, UM, VILLAGE AND CITY JURISDICTIONS, ALONG WITH FAMILY COURT. WE HAVE AN ADVOCATE CO-LOCATED THERE. UM, THE INTEGRATIVE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE COURT AT THE COUNTY LEVEL, AS WELL AS THE COUNTY FELONY DOMESTIC VIOLENCE COURT. AND DEPENDING ON THE JURISDICTION IS, IS WHAT WE PROVIDE, WHAT THAT COMMUNITY OR THAT JURISDICTION NEEDS. SO FOR SOME OF THOSE JURISDICTIONS, WE PROVIDE A, UH, AN ADVOCATE RIGHT ON SITE, FIVE DAYS A WEEK, UM, CALL, YOU KNOW, AND THAT WORKS, UM, PRETTY MUCH INTEGRATED WITH THE COURT STAFF AND OR THE POLICE STAFF. SO FOR FAMILY COURT AND IDB COURT, THEY'RE THERE FIVE DAYS A WEEK, THEY'RE THERE TO BE PULLED INTO THE COURTROOM WHEN NECESSARY TO MAKE SURE THAT SURVIVORS ARE GETTING THE SUPPORT THAT THEY NEED. AND FOR WHEN WE ARE PLACED IN A POLICE JURISDICTION, LIKE IN CHIEF DAGA , UM, THEY GET AN ADVOCATE FIVE DAYS A WEEK AS WELL. UM, AND SHE HAS AN, A, UH, DESK RIGHT IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WORKS HAND IN HAND WITH THEM, CAN BE AVAILABLE TO, UH, BE AT THE, THE DESK WHEN SOMEONE JUST WALKS IN, UH, LOOKING FOR HELP, AS WELL AS HELP OUT THE COURTS AND THE POLICE, THE DI DIR THAT COME IN. SO THEY GIVE EVERY DIR TO HER. AND THEN ALSO, IF THERE'S MOBILITY ISSUES, IF THERE'S REASONS THAT THE POLICE NEED HELP, GETTING AN ADVOCATE TO, UM, THE SURVIVOR THAT ADVOCATE WILL, UM, GO ALONG WITH THEM, OR WHAT I CALL LIKE MEDIUM SIZED JURISDICTIONS. THOSE ARE USUALLY JURISDICTIONS THAT HAVE, UM, DIR THAT ARE REFERRED TO AS, UM, PROBABLY BETWEEN 50 TO 250 A YEAR. UM, WE DO KIND OF, UM, A, A SMALL, A SHORTER VERSION OF THAT. SOME OF THEM WILL HAVE MAYBE ONE OR TWO DAY PRESENCE OF AN ADVOCATE THERE WHEN THE TOWN, UH, COURT OR VILLAGE COURT IS IN SESSION. UM, SO THAT, UH, THEY HAVE SOMEBODY THERE. AND THEN ON THOSE OTHER OFF DAYS, THEY'RE WORKING, UM, OFFSITE OR IN ANOTHER JURISDICTION, BUT MAKING PHONE CALLS, UM, FOLLOWING UP WITH DIR, UM, AND DOING WHAT, UH, THEY NEED TO DO FROM THERE. AND FOR EVEN SMALLER JURISDICTIONS, UH, THEY MAY NOT HAVE AN ONSITE PRESENCE AT ALL. THESE ARE PROBABLY JURISDICTIONS THAT WE GET LESS THAN 50 DI A YEAR FROM. UM, THEY, THOSE DI ARE SENT TO US DIRECTLY. UM, AND THEN WE ARE, WE, UH, TRIAGE THEM FROM, UM, OUR OFFICES. IF SOMEONE NEEDS TO BE DOWN AT COURT THOUGH, WE WILL BE DOWN AT COURT TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S SUPPORT FOR THE SURVIVOR, UH, THROUGH THE PROCESS, UH, AS WELL. SO IT REALLY IS, UH, UM, WHAT THE COMMUNITY DETERMINES IT NEEDS, OR THE JURISDICTION DETERMINES IT NEEDS, UM, THAT REALLY BASES ON, UM, HOW WE CAN HELP THEM OUT. BUT EVERY SINGLE COURT ADVOCATE IS CONNECTED TO ALL THOSE OTHER, UM, SERVICES THAT I INDICATED THAT HAVEN HOUSE PROVIDES. SO IF, UM, SOMEONE COMES IN AND THEY DON'T WANNA GO THROUGH WITH THE CRIMINAL PROCESS, WE FOLLOW UP THE DIR, THEY REALLY DON'T WANNA DO THAT. WE TALK ABOUT ORDER PROTECTION OPTIONS AND SAFETY PLAN WITH THEM. AND IF THEY WANNA DO THAT CIVILLY, THEN WE MAKE THAT WARM TRANSFER TO OUR, UM, ADVOCATES THAT ARE PLACED IN THE CIVIL COURT, THE FAMILY COURT, TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITH THEM. IF THEY DON'T, OR AT THIS POINT ARE NOT CHOOSING TO DO ANYTHING, THEN THEY'RE GONNA GET, UM, REFERRED TO ONE OF OUR NON-RESIDENTIAL, UM, ADVOCATES THAT CAN CONTINUE TO DO COUNSELING WITH THEM, CONTINUE TO SAFETY PLAN WITH THEM, AND CONNECT THEM WITH WHATEVER OTHER RESOURCES, UH, THAT THEY NEED. UM, SO WE REALLY TRY [00:15:01] TO PROVIDE, UM, A HOPEFUL CONTINUUM OF CARE FOR ANY SURVIVOR THAT COMES TO US. I DID PROVIDE IN YOUR PRESENTATION, UM, THAT, OR I SHOULD SAY THAT, UM, THE DRAFT THAT I GAVE YOU, THE THREE LEVELS THAT I WENT THROUGH, UM, ALONG AS WHAT BUDGETARILY THAT COSTS FOR US, WHICH IS REALLY JUST THE COST OF THE TIME OF THE ADVOCATE, THE SUPERVISION THAT WE CAN PROVIDE, BECAUSE EVERY ADVOCATE IS SUPERVISED AND PROVIDED WITH ONE-ON-ONE, UM, SUPERVISORY MEETINGS ON A WEEKLY BASIS, AS WELL AS CONSTANT MONITORING. WE ALSO HAVE TRAINING, UM, THAT ALL ADVOCATES ARE REQUIRED TO DO AND AND MAINTAIN. AND SO THAT'S THE SUPERVISOR'S JOB. SO WE CAN PROVIDE THAT SUPERVISION ON TOP OF IT. AND THAT'S WORKED INTO, UH, THE BUDGET AS WELL AS JUST INCIDENTALS OF, UM, WHAT AN ADVOCATE, UH, WOULD NEED. AND THEN IF IT IS GOING TO BE COMING OUT TO, UM, WE, WE WORKED IN LIKE MILEAGE AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. UM, BUT EACH ONE OF THOSE, I THINK YOU'LL FIND IS VERY REASONABLE , UM, FOR, UH, WHAT WE CAN PROVIDE. AND I DO WANNA INDICATE ABOUT THE SUPERVISION THAT INDIVIDUALS THAT WE HAVE, UM, SUPERVISING OUR ADVOCATES. WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO, UM, HAVE HAD, UM, EXTENSIVE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE EXPERIENCE. UM, OUR MOST SEASONED SUPERVISOR HAS OVER 30 YEARS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, UM, UH, EXPERIENCE. AND OUR NEWEST HAS, UM, OVER A DECADE. SO, UM, ALL OF US HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR LONGER THAN WE'D LIKE TO ADMIT, UM, . UM, AND SO I HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE, UH, TO PROVIDE AS WELL. SO NOW, I MEAN, WE'VE DONE AWAY WITH THE, UH, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN, IN OURS, AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT REPLACING. SO HAVEN HOUSE HAS BEEN FILLING THE GAP, UH, SINCE, UH, THE, UH, DEPARTURE OF THE PREVIOUS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ADVOCATE. OKAY. UM, AND THEY'VE BEEN DOING THAT AT, AT NO COST TO THE TOWN. UM, BUT TO CONTINUE THAT RELATIONSHIP, WE WOULD HAVE TO ENTER INTO A FINANCIAL AGREEMENT. WE'VE BEEN DOING A VERY, I, AND I JUST WANNA KNOW, SO WHAT AM I GONNA EXPECT TO GET? WHAT ARE THE PEOPLE GONNA EXPECT TO GET? ARE WE GONNA HAVE A, A PERSON IN HERE ONCE A WEEK, TWICE A WEEK? SO THAT WOULD BE BASED ON WHAT THE TOWN BOARD FEELS IS, UM, APPROPRIATE. THAT'S WHY I'VE GIVEN THE THREE DIFFERENT LEVELS, UM, BASED ON WHAT YOU, YOU FEEL YOU WANT. SO A LA CARTE, UH, THING, IT'S NOT A CAR VENUE. UM, BECAUSE BASICALLY IT'S THE SAME THING. WE PROVIDE OTHER JURISDICTIONS. WE DETERMINE WHAT THEIR COMMUNITY NEEDS ARE. HOW BUSY ARE YOU IN THE COURTROOM, HOW MANY DI DO YOU GET? WOULD YOU NEED SOMEONE OUT HERE, UM, ON A MORE PERMANENT BASIS OR NOT. UM, AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING RIGHT NOW IS JUST KIND OF, UM, THE COURT STAFF HAS BEEN VERY WONDERFUL TO WORK WITH, AND THAT THEY BASICALLY, UM, REFER TO US ANY DIRS THAT ARE AT A HIGH RISK LEVEL, AND WE'VE BEEN TRIAGING THOSE, BUT I'VE BEEN TRIAGING THOSE WITH ONE OF OUR SUPERVISORS, AND THEN WE KIND OF GIVE IT TO WHICHEVER ADVOCATE THAT I CURRENTLY HAVE. DOESN'T, ISN'T TOO OVERWORKED, . UM, WHICH IS WHY IF WE WANNA CONTINUE IT AND DO IT ON, UM, A MORE REGULAR BASIS OR EVEN HAVE A FULL-TIME PERSON, IT WOULD, UM, I WOULD NEED TO STAFF UP FOR THAT. RIGHT. UM, NOW DO YOU GO INTO THE SCHOOL AND EDUCATE THE CHILDREN ON WHAT, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW IS GOING ON IN THEIR OWN LIFE? YEAH. UM, SO THE COURT ADVOCATES DO NOT BECAUSE THEIR TIME IS, THEY, WELL, THEIR COURT ADVOCATES GO AND THEY HAVE CERTAIN PEOPLE, THEY BASICALLY, THEY CALL THE SOCIAL WORKER FROM THE SCHOOL. EXACTLY. BUT FOR EDUCATION, BUT I MEAN, JUST FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSE, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE STAFF THAT DO, THAT ARE, UM, FUNDED FOR SOME PREVENTION WORK. SO LIKE OUR HIGH RISK COORDINATOR, SHE WILL GO OUT, UM, TO SCHOOLS, TO WHATEVER COMMUNITY, WHATEVER COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS ARE INTERESTED. UM, EITHER SHE, MYSELF, UM, OR WE ALSO HAVE A COMMUNITY RELATIONS PERSON. THERE'S A GUY THAT GREW UP WITH FOUR SISTERS AND I HAVE, YOU KNOW, THREE DAUGHTERS, TWO STEPDAUGHTERS AND TWO GRANDDAUGHTERS. YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF IMPORTANT TO ME. ABSOLUTELY. UM, YEAH, IT'S ONE IN FOUR, RIGHT? THAT NUMBER DOES PLAY OUT. I COME FROM A FAMILY OF 12, I HAVE EIGHT SISTERS. I DIDN'T MENTION MY BROTHER, UNFORTUNATELY. UM, IT'S NOT TO BECOME AWARE AND IT REALLY, UM, MAKE YOURSELF COGNIZANT OF THE RED FLAGS BECAUSE IT'S SO SUBTLE, RIGHT? YEAH. UM, YOU KNOW, THE, OUR, THE SURVIVORS WE SUPPORT ARE THE LAST, UM, INDIVIDUALS THAT WILL ASK FOR HELP. UM, AND USUALLY WE'LL KEEP IT QUIET JUST BECAUSE OF THE SHAME, THE JUDGMENT THAT THEY OFTEN, UM, HE WILL COME ALONG WITH, WELL, YEAH. WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, POINT, POINT. THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY AND A LOT DON'T EVEN IDENTIFY, UM, AS A VICTIM. RIGHT. SO, I MEAN, IF SAY SOMEBODY DOESN'T WANNA COME INTO THE TOWN HALL AND, AND GO IN THE OFFICE IS THERE, THEY JUST CALL A NUMBER OR SOMETHING? IS THAT YES. SO WE RUN A 24 HOUR HOTLINE. UM, IT'S 8, 8, 4, 6,000. UM, SO IT'S ANSWERED 24 HOURS BY TRAINED ADVOCATES AS WELL, BECAUSE WE RUN THE SHELTER. SO THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEBODY THERE TO ANSWER THE PHONES. UM, AND SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME DOWN. UM, THEY CAN MAKE THE PHONE CALL TO THE, THAT HOTLINE AND GET CONNECTED, UM, WITH AN ADVOCATE RIGHT THERE. AND WE CAN PROVIDE, A LOT OF OUR GROUPS CURRENTLY ARE STILL BEING PROVIDED VIRTUALLY, UM, EVER SINCE THE PANDEMIC. UM, WE TRY TO DO IT AT [00:20:01] A HYBRID, WHATEVER'S EASIEST FOR INDIVIDUALS. SO WE'LL DO AS MUCH AS WE, WELL, HOW DO WE GET THAT NUMBER OUT TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC WHERE THEY KNOW WHERE THAT NUMBER IS? UM, I MEAN, RADIO ADS, TV, I MEAN, JUST, YOU KNOW. YEAH. AND WE CAN PROVIDE, WE HAVE MATERIALS THAT WE CAN PROVIDE TOO. UM, THAT, THAT PART OF OUR, OUR, THE MATERIAL I CAN GIVE YOU, UM, EITHER WAY, BECAUSE WE ARE THE SHELTER. SO I, I WOULD LIKE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT, UM, THAT NUMBER AS WELL. IT IS OUT ON, ON OUR WEBSITE, ON THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE, UM, BECAUSE WE ARE, UH, THE SHELTER AND WE DO HAVE A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ADVISORY BOARD. AND I SEE THAT KRISTEN CHOSE THAT IS HERE, I THINK ANOTHER REPRESENTATIVE. AND THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN VERY HELPFUL IN, UM, UH, PUBLIC AWARENESS AND, UM, RELAYING INFORMATION AND, AND THEY'VE DONE QUITE A BIT OF WORK. AND I'M SURE THAT HAVEN HOUSE WOULD HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT GROUP WITH THEM. WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT GROUP, UM, AND, AND WORK TOGETHER WITH THEM. UM, I WAS AWARE THAT, UM, THERE WAS BOARD, IN FACT USED TO WORK WITH US, , NATALIE BACK IN, UM, THE FA AT THE FAMILY JUSTICE CENTER. SO YES, HAPPY TO DO THIS. WE, ANYWAY, WE'RE ALWAYS DOING WORK TO GET THE WORD OUT. UM, AND IT NEVER SEEMS LIKE THERE'S ENOUGH DONE TO GET THE WORD WORD OUT. SO, UM, ANY HELP THAT WE CAN GET, UH, WITH THAT HAPPY TO WORK. I'M SORRY, DID YOU SAY YOU, YOU, YOU'RE WITH THE, UH, COMMITTEE? I AM CURRENTLY THE BOARD PRESIDENT. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, I'M ACTUALLY QUITE FAMILIAR WITH IT ON, IT WOULD BE MORE KIND OF FOLLOWING UP WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. UM, MY ONLY QUESTION TO YOU WOULD BE LIKE, SINCE TAKING IT OVER, DO YOU KNOW ON AVERAGE HOW MANY THINGS YOU'RE BEING ROUTED TO YOU CURRENTLY? UM, NOT VERY MUCH RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE AGREEMENT THAT, UM, IT WOULD NEED TO BE, UM, CASES THAT WERE AT HIGH RISK JUST BECAUSE OUR CAPACITY , UM, WAS NOT GREAT. SURE. UM, SO IT IS NOT A LOT. WHEN I ASKED THE SUPERVISOR, UM, IT WAS PROBABLY IN A MONTH'S TIME, MAYBE FIVE TO 10, UH, DI R SPACE, SO. OKAY. BUT THOSE WERE ALL HIGH RISK, HIGH, HIGH RISK ONE. YEAH. YES. YES. EXACTLY. VIOLENCE CASES IN THE TOWN THAT ARE NOT, THAT ARE FALLING THROUGH THE CRACKS OF THAT ARE NOT HIGH RISK. THAT IS CORRECT. IN FACT, DON'T HAVE, WHEN WE, UM, WERE FIRST REACHED OUT TO, WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT OUR CAPACITY TO TAKE ANYTHING, BUT WE KNEW IT WOULD LEAVE A JURISDICTION WITHOUT ANYTHING. UM, WHICH IS NOT SOMETHING WE WANTED TO DO. AND ALSO, UM, JUST TO POINT OUT TOO, IS WE, ONE OF OUR ADVOCATES IS IN THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURG, SO WE WEREN'T COVERING THE TOWN, BUT WE WERE, WE DO HAVE AN ADVOCATE THAT GETS THE VILLAGE, UH, DIR WELL, I USED TO BE INVOLVED IN COUNTY POLITICS AND GOVERNMENT, I SHOULD SAY. SO I'M KIND OF FAMILIAR. AND THEN JUST ONE MORE THING, I'M JUST HOPING THAT YOU CAN CLARIFY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TYPE OF SERVICE THAT SOMEBODY WOULD GET, UM, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND IT, I WANNA MAKE SURE THE BOARD UNDERSTANDS THE DIFFERENCE AS TO WHAT SOMEBODY WOULD GET IF THEY CALL THAT HOTLINE. YOU KNOW, THE 8, 8, 4, 6,000, IT'S BEEN AROUND FOREVER. IT IS VERY WELL KNOWN AND ADVERTISED. THAT NUMBER HAS NOT CHANGED IN DECADES OF SERVICE, UM, THROUGH HAVEN HOUSE. SO IT'S A WELL-ESTABLISHED NUMBER FOR ANYBODY WHO HAS IT. BUT CAN YOU EXPLAIN, IF SOMEBODY JUST CALLS THAT YOU KNOW, REALLY WHAT IS GONNA BE AVAILABLE TO THEM THROUGH CONTACTING THEM VERSUS WHAT SERVICES THEY WOULD GET, LIKE THE DIFFERENCE IN LEVEL OF CARE THEY WOULD GET? SHOULD WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN ADVOCATE HERE VERSUS, OH, YOU CAN JUST CALL THIS HOTLINE. OH, SURE, SURE, SURE. SO, UM, THE HOTLINE WOULD BASICALLY, UH, IF IT, IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR SHELTER, THE HOTLINE IS YOUR GO-TO, BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE YOUR QUICK INTAKE, NOT QUICK INTAKE, BUT IT'S GONNA BE YOUR INTAKE INTO THE SHELTER, ASK QUESTIONS, AND THEN MAKE, UM, UH, UH, ACCOMMODATIONS FOR YOU TO COME IN. WHEN IT'S NON-RESIDENTIAL, OF COURSE, THE PERSON ANSWERING THE PHONE CAN PROVIDE IMMEDIATE, UM, SAFETY PLANNING AND, AND CRISIS COUNSELING FOR THEM ON THE PHONE. BUT THEN THEY'RE GONNA GET CONNECTED AND TAKE A REFERRAL FOR THE NEXT, UH, BUSINESS DAY OR TWO FOR A NON-RESIDENTIAL ADVOCATE TO FOLLOW UP WITH THEM. SO IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE GONNA GET THE SAME, UM, KIND OF CONTACT WITH SOMEONE AS IF YOU HAD SOMEONE IN PERSON AND THEY WALK UP AND THEY CAN SIT DOWN AND THEY CAN, UM, REALLY GET THROUGH THINGS WITH THEM. NO, IS IS, IS THERE A PLACE FOR LIKE, SAY BOYS OR SOMETHING, BECAUSE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT WERE YEP. SO TAKEN AWAY. YEAH. SO OUR SHELTER IS, UM, IS ACCEPTS EVERYONE. SO IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A FEMALE ONLY SHELTER. WE GET ASKED THAT, UM, A LOT. YEAH. SO, NO, IT'S A GOOD POINT. UM, WE, WE TAKE ALL GENDERS NO MATTER WHAT YOUR IDENTITY, UM, IS. WE ARE A COMMUNAL SHELTER. SO WE DO EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE WHEN THEY CALL, UM, THAT THAT IS OUR POLICY. UM, AND SO IF SOMEONE IS NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, WE CAN HELP THEM TRY TO MAKE OTHER, UM, ARRANGEMENTS NOW THAT THEY HAVE THINGS FOR, LIKE, SAY FAMILIES. LIKE IF THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, WIFE AND DAUGHTER, SON OR SOMETHING THAT, THAT, SO WE TAKE IN FAMILIES, UM, AND IF WE CANNOT TAKE THEM JUST BECAUSE OF CAPACITY, AND I WILL, I UNFORTUNATELY WILL TELL YOU THAT, UM, 36 BEDS IS NOT ENOUGH, UM, FOR THE COUNTY. UH, UNFORTUNATELY WE ARE, UM, I DON'T THINK I'M, UM, SPILLING ANYTHING. 'CAUSE WE'VE ALREADY GOTTEN COUNTY SUPPORT ON THE FACT THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO EXPAND, UM, BECAUSE WE UNFORTUNATELY TURN AWAY TOO [00:25:01] MANY PEOPLE FOR BEING AT CAPACITY OR HAVE TO HELP PEOPLE GET TO ANOTHER COUNTY, UM, SHELTER, EV SHELTER WHEN WE CAN'T. BUT WE WILL TAKE IN FULL FAMILIES. SO, UM, IF IT'S A MOTHER, THREE KIDS, FOUR KIDS, IF WE HAVE ENOUGH BEDS, UM, TO, I MEAN, WORKING WITH THE COUNTY AND SOCIAL SERVICES, I MEAN, THEY PUT FAMILIES UP IN HOTELS, MOTELS, HOLIDAY INN. YES. BUT THEY WOULD PREFER NOT TO DO THAT BECAUSE WHEN YOU PUT THEM IN A HOTEL OR MOTEL, IT DOESN'T COME, COME WITH THE WRAPAROUND SERVICES TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN YOU'RE IN THE SHELTER, WE SET UP A GOAL PLAN FOR YOU. RIGHT. WHAT IS YOUR, WHAT IS YOUR ULTIMATE NEXT STEP? YEAH. SO YOU'LL STILL BE THERE TO EXACTLY. EXACTLY. SO, UM, WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM AS LIKE, OKAY, YOU HAVE UP TO 180 DAYS, UM, MAYBE ANOTHER 90 AFTER THAT, BUT WHERE ARE WE GOING AFTER THAT? LET'S GET YOU CONNECTED WITH RAPID REHOUSING. LET'S MAKE SURE IF YOU DON'T, UM, ALREADY HAVEN ALREADY REPLIED FOR SECTION EIGHT THAT YOU HAVE, UM, AND MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT A PLAN FOR WHERE YOU'RE GOING. UM, ONCE THE SHELTERED, UH, IS NOT AN OPTION ANY LONGER. IS THERE ANY ASPECT OF THE SERVICES THAT THE TOWN PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED THAT YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO PROVIDE THROUGH THIS PLAN? I DON'T BELIEVE SO BECAUSE OF THE, UM, EX THE EXPANSE OF THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE. I BELIEVE THAT WE COULD BE PROVIDING EVERYTHING THAT WAS PROVIDED BEFORE. AND IF THE TOWN WOULD CONTRACT WITH YOU AT ONE PARTICULAR LEVEL, AND THEN, UM, AS A TIME PERIOD PROGRESSES, WE FIND THAT THE NEED IS GREATER OR LESS. ARE WE ABLE TO ADJUST THAT? MM-HMM . ABSOLUTELY. AND YOU, YOU ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE JURISDICTIONS ON WHATEVER THEY FEEL IS, AND IF IT TAKES YOU BEYOND THE STAFFING THAT YOU HAVE, YOU'RE ABLE TO JUST ADJUST THAT ACCORDINGLY. YES. TO BE ABLE TO STILL PROVIDE THAT FULL WRAPAROUND PROGRAM. YES. YES. MM-HMM . AND I WOULD SAY TOO, THAT WE'RE, UM, WILLING TO PROVIDE WHATEVER, UM, REPORTS OR COUNT, UH, TO INDICATE WHAT SERVICE WE'RE PROVIDING. UM, OF COURSE, BY NUMBERS CAN'T, UH, DISCLOSE ANYTHING, UM, UH, THAT IDENTIFIES ANYBODY, BUT WE CAN PROVIDE WITH THE NUMBERS THAT WERE, YOU KNOW, UH, OF INDIVIDUALS THAT WE'RE CONTACTING AND WHO WERE, UH, HOW MANY WE'RE REACHING OUT TO WHAT SERVICES WE WE'RE PROVIDING. SO YOU HAVE, UM, ACCOUNTABILITY WITH REGARDS TO WHAT G PAYMENT HOUSE IS, IS DOING , AND IF YOU SEE CERTAIN, UM, TRENDS OR NEEDS THAT, BECAUSE YOU'RE WORKING MORE INTIMATELY WITH THOSE SITUATIONS AS THEY COME FORWARD, AND IF YOU SEE SOMETHING, UM, YOU MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, YOU REPORT BACK. AGAIN, NOT SPECIFICS, BUT IF YOU SEE SOMETHING WHERE WE NEED TO, UM, PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SERVICES OR ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY OUTREACH, PUBLIC AWARENESS, YOU'LL YES, ABSOLUTELY. AND I THINK THAT'S TO WHERE THE, UM, YOUR DV BOARD CAN BE, UM, HELPFUL AS WELL. UM, BECAUSE WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE TRENDS, UM, AND THE ISSUES. AND IT WOULD BE GREAT TO, UM, ALSO WE'RE, I'M A CHAIR OF THE ERIE COUNTY COALITION AGAINST FAMILY VIOLENCE THAT, UM, HAVEN HOUSE IS VERY MUCH INVOLVED IN. UM, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE, UM, THE ADVISORY PART, PART OF THAT COALITION. 'CAUSE WE TALK ABOUT THOSE ISSUES AND TRENDS THAT COME UP. UM, UH, AND THAT'S LIKE THE BEST FORUM FOR IT, UH, BECAUSE WE WERE JUST SETTING UP MEETINGS WITH THE BPD AND FAMILY COURT TO TALK ABOUT, UH, ISSUES THAT THE AGENCIES ACROSS THE BOARD ARE SEEING THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. SO JUST IN THE, UH, INTEREST OF FOR THE PUBLIC, THOSE GATHERED HERE TODAY AND THE FOLKS FROM THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ADVISORY BOARD, UH, YOU'VE OUTLINED REALLY THREE PACKAGES HERE. UH, THE FIRST WOULD BE, UH, A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ADVOCATE AT 8.7, 8.75 HOURS PER WEEK FOR THE FULL YEAR, UH, AS WELL AS THE SUPERVISION THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THAT ADVOCATE AT 1.4 HOURS PER WEEK FOR 12 MONTHS. AND THE TOTAL COST FOR THAT IS $18,567 AND 64 CENTS. THE NEXT LEVEL UP WOULD BE AN ADVOCATE FOR 17 AND A HALF HOURS PER WEEK FOR 12 MONTHS WITH SUPERVISED SUPERVISION OF 2.8 HOURS PER WEEK FOR 12 MONTHS. AND THAT TOTAL IS $37,702 AND 79 CENTS. AND THEN THE, UH, THIRD LEVEL WOULD BE AN ADVOCATE AT 35 HOURS PER WEEK FOR 12 MONTHS SUPERVISION AND 5.6 HOURS PER WEEK FOR 12 MONTHS. AND THAT TOTAL IS $75,405 AND 57 CENTS. WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT OUR NEEDS WOULD BE, UH, FOR THE 2024 BUDGET YEAR. SO WE DID HAVE, UH, CONTRACTED SERVICE LINE IN THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE DEPARTMENT AT $25,000 FOR CONTRACT AND SERVICES. AND WE ALSO HAVE A, UH, A PERSONNEL LINE AT $25,000, UH, SO THAT WE COULD HAVE UP TO $50,000 IMMEDIATELY AVAILABLE TO CONTRACT. UM, AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE DID DETERMINE THAT THE NEED WAS GREATER THAN THAT, THEN THE BOARD COULD LOOK TO, TO SEE WHERE WE COULD FIND ADDITIONAL FUNDING. BUT I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE, [00:30:01] UH, AND RECOGNIZE THE FINANCIAL REALITIES AS THE BOARD MAKES OUR DECISIONS. THANK YOU. AND IF I COULD JUST MAKE ONE RECOMMENDATION, IF, YOU KNOW, IF THE BOARD DECIDES TO CONTRACT WITH THEM, I WOULD, UH, MEET WITH THE, THE, THE, THE COURTS OR THE COURT, THE ADVOCATES OR THE, UH, PROBABLY NOT THE JUDGES, BUT THE ASSISTANTS, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND, UH, TO SEE WHAT THE NEED IS SO WE KNOW WHAT YEAH. SO, UM, WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT, UH, FOR THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS. UM, THIS IS A DECISION THAT WAS MADE, UH, IN THE FALL OF LAST YEAR AS WE LOOKED AT THE BUDGET. UM, AND, UH, THERE WAS A PERSONNEL ISSUE THAT PRECLUDE US FROM HAVING A FEDERAL TIME DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ADVOCATE ON SITE. UH, SO WE, WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH OUR, WITH OUR COURTS TEAM, UH, WITH WITH CHIEF DINA. UM, AND THEY HAVE INFORMED, UM, US TO WHERE WE ARE, UH, RIGHT NOW. CERTAINLY FURTHER COMMUNICATION WITH THOSE STAKEHOLDERS AS WELL AS THE FOLKS ON THE ADVISORY BOARD, UH, WHO WE ALSO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CONSULT THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. NATALIE WAS ABLE TO JOIN US ON, ON A TOUR, UM, OF, UH, OF, UH, FAMILY SERVICE, CHILD AND FAMILY SERVICES. UM, SO, UH, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION. THIS IS, THIS IS A LONG TIME COMING. UH, TIFFANY, I APPRECIATE YOU, UH, COMING TO, TO SHARE, UH, WHAT YOUR ORGANIZATION HAS TO OFFER, ESPECIALLY WITH OUR, OUR NEWER BOARD MEMBERS. UM, SO, AND, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO YOUR COMPLIMENTARY SERVICE TO THE TOWN OF HAMBURG AND FILLING THE, FILLING THE GAP IN OUR, IN OUR IMMEDIATE NEEDS. ABSOLUTELY. I'VE BEEN HAPPY TO DO IT. IT'S BEEN, UM, A PLEASURE WORKING WITH THE BOARD AND ANYTHING THAT WE CAN, WE'RE ALWAYS THERE TO TRY TO HELP WHATEVER SURVIVORS WE CAN. SO, UH, WE STAND READY IF YOU'RE, UH, INTERESTED , ANYTHING ELSE, UH, FROM KRISTEN OR NATALIE? I DON'T THINK SO. I TOUCH FACE WITH YOU AFTER, JUST SO I CAN GET SOME CONTACT INFORMATION. SURE. NO. DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER COPY OF YOUR REPORT? I DO. OKAY. I LIKE TO SAY ONE MORE TIME HOW EXCEPTIONALLY IMPORTANT THIS IS TO HAVE, HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR TOWN TO HAVE THIS ON SITE. VICTIMS FROM TOWN OF HAMBURG DON'T WANT TO GO DOWNTOWN. THEY DON'T WANNA GO INTO THE CITY, THEY DON'T WANT TO GET OUT, BUT THIS IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, AND THIS SEEMS LIKE AN EXCELLENT WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STILL HAVE THIS SERVICE, WHICH IS VERY CRITICAL AND SO WELL STAFFED AND SO MUCH GREAT WRAPAROUND. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL. THIS IS CRITICAL THAT WE KEEP THIS IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG TO SET US APART THAT WE HAD ADVOCACY AND IT HAS TO CONTINUE. AND, AND KRISTEN, YOU, AS YOU BROUGHT UP AN INTERESTING POINT IN THAT VICTIMS, UH, DON'T WANT TO GO TO TO THE CITY, THEY WANNA STAY LOCAL. UM, WHAT, WHAT I'VE LEARNED, UH, AND AND WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH THE CHIEF AND OUR DISPATCHERS AND THE COURT TEAM AND, UH, FOLKS FROM THE FAMILY JUSTICE CENTER, IS THAT OUR CURRENT ARRANGEMENT WHERE WE HAVE OUR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE OFFICE ATTACHED TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, SO CLOSE TO TOWN HALL, IS LESS THAN IDEAL AND INCONSISTENT WITH BEST PRACTICES IN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SERVICES. UM, A LOCATION AWAY FROM TOWN HALL, WHICH IS A PUBLIC GATHERING PLACE, UH, IS, IS IDEAL. AND I UNDERSTAND YOU, YOU HAVE A, YOU HAVE A ORCHARD PARK LOCATION, OR AM I THINKING YOU MOVE DIFFERENT AGENCIES? THAT'S FAMILY. IT'S FAMILY JUSTICE CENTER. OKAY. YEAH. SO FORTUNATELY IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, WE HAVE, WE HAVE A LOT OF FACILITIES. WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS, UM, AND WE HAVE A, A YOUTH RECREATION AND SENIOR SERVICES DEPARTMENT THAT IS IN THE PROCESS OF FINDING A NEW HOME. SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO, TO REALLY BRING OUR SERVICE TO A BEST IN CLASS MODEL. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING ME HERE. I APPRECIATE IT. AND NATALIE AND KRISTEN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS BECAUSE I THINK THEY WERE VERY ON POINT AND IMPORTANT FOR US TO REMEMBER. WE HAVE NOT JUST IN, AND RANDY, I CAN'T EXPRESS IT. I KNOW IT WAS, THERE'S A LOT OF HESITANCE TOWARDS MOVING, BUT THE BOARD HAS ALWAYS SUPPORTED RELOCATING THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE OFFICE. SO, UH, WE'RE COMPLETELY ON BOARD WITH THAT. UM, AND THEN FOR MR. CLOSEUP, JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE OF HOW, KIND OF HOW OUR BOARD HAS SHIFTED OUR FOCUS, UM, SINCE LOSING, UM, THE CURRENT ADVOCATE THAT WE HAD HERE IS WE'VE REALLY BEEN DOING A FOCUS ON BRINGING EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS TO SCHOOLS. WE'VE REACHED OUT TO THE FOLKS WHO BRING IN, UH, PROGRAMS FOR BOTH FRONTIER AND HAMBURG TO DO SOME IN, IN-SERVICE, UM, DATING, VIOLENCE, UM, TEAM DATING AWARENESS TYPES OF PROGRAMS. UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE POLICE TO BRING IN SOME DIFFERENT PROGRAMS TO PROVIDE, UH, LIKE RING DOORBELL SERVICES AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO VICTIMS WHO RESIDE IN THE COMMUNITY, WHO STILL LIKE TO REMAIN SAFE WITHIN THEIR HOME. SO WE ARE FINDING DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN BE SUPPORTING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE VICTIMS, AND WE'RE HOPING THAT WE'LL CONTINUE THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH HAVEN, BRING THAT UP, BECAUSE AS AN OCFS, UM, LICENSED AGENCY, WE HAVE ACCESS TO [00:35:01] FUNDING THAT GIVES US WHAT'S CONSIDERED FLEX FUNDING. UM, WE DIDN'T GET AS MUCH THIS YEAR, BUT THAT FLEX FUNDING PROVIDES FUNDING FOR THINGS LIKE RING DOORBELLS, SECURITY SYSTEMS, UH, SECURITY DEPOSITS ON A NEW APARTMENT, FIRST MONTH'S RENT, UM, FURNITURE, UM, THINGS THAT ARE TRADITIONAL FUNDING NEVER PROVIDED BEFORE, UM, BUT IS SO CRUCIAL TO HELPING SOMEONE, YOU KNOW, LEAVE THE SITUATION AND BE ABLE TO RESTART OVER. UM, SO YES, WE COULD, UM, DEFINITELY HELP SUPPORT IN THAT AS WELL. AND, AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY ONE MORE THING IN TERMS OF WHERE WE ARE HOUSING THESE VICTIMS OR THEIR YOUNG CHILDREN. YOU MENTIONED SPECIFICALLY HAVING TRAUMA INFORMED CLINICIANS. MM-HMM . THIS IS CRITICAL. THESE ARE EXTREMELY TRAUMATIZED MEN OR WOMEN, USUALLY WOMEN, BUT SOMETIMES MEN AND CHILDREN WHO HAVE BEEN FINANCIALLY ABUSED, PHYSICALLY ABUSED, EMOTIONALLY ABUSED, AND THEY ARE DESPERATE FOR THOSE SERVICES. YOU CAN'T JUST SAY, HERE'S, THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO FEEL SAFE. THEY HAVEN'T BEEN, THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT SAFE IS. SO TO PUT THEM IN SOME SPOT AND SAY, OKAY, WELL HERE YOU GO. YOU'RE SAFE HERE. THAT'S NEVER GONNA WORK FOR THESE VICTIMS. THEY NEED THOSE TRAUMA INFORMED CLINICIANS EXPLAINING TO THEM, THIS IS WHY YOU'RE SAFE. THEY NEED THAT MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELING. THEY NEED THE FINANCIAL COUNSELING. THIS IS HOW YOU'RE GONNA HANDLE YOUR AFFAIRS. NOW. YOU'VE BEEN PROGRAMMED FOR YEARS THAT YOU'RE INCAPABLE OF HANDLING ALL THIS. YES, YOU ARE. AND WE'RE GONNA TEACH YOU HOW TO DO IT. AND THEY, THEY CAN'T GET ANY OF THAT. IF IT'S JUST HERE'S A PHYSICAL STATE THAT YOU'RE AWAY FROM THE ABUSE, THEN THEY HAVE TO HAVE THOSE OTHER SERVICES TOO. I, I BELIEVE BETH FERRELL'S, UH, GONNA CARRY THE HAMMER FOR THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ISSUES, UH, ON THE, ON THE COMMITTEE. WELL, WE'RE VERY LUCKY BECAUSE BETH HAS ALWAYS BEEN A TREMENDOUS ANECDOTE. SO, UM, SOME OF THE THINGS YOU BROUGHT UP, UM, DO THEY HAVE THINGS FOR LIKE, WITH TEEN PREGNANCIES ABOUT TEACHING, HOW TO HANDLE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU GET THESE YOUNG BOYS THAT THEY GOT THE RAGE AND NEXT THING YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SHAKING AND THROWING BABIES AROUND. SO, OR WOMEN, YEAH. I MEAN, THERE'S A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF, UM, PREVENTION EDUCATION OUT THERE. UM, AND SOME THAT LOOK AT THE TEAM, UH, I'D BE INTERESTED IN FOLLOWING UP WITH YOU, NATALIE, WITH REGARDS TO WHAT THE BOARD, UH, BOARD'S BEEN DOING. MM-HMM . UM, BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER, I'LL TELL YOU , AS FAR AS A, UM, UH, UH, FUNDING A GRANT FUNDED AGENCY PREVENTION IS THE LAST THING THEY FUND FOR WHATEVER REASON. I DON'T KNOW. UM, SO IT'S ALWAYS HARD. UM, SO IF WE COULD COUPLE WITH SOMEONE WHO'S PROVIDING THAT PREVENTION, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 'CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S OTHERS FOUNDATION THAT, UM, HAVE APPROACHED US, BUT, UM, WE HAVE, OUR STAFF IS REALLY FOCUSED ON THE DIRECT SERVICE PIECE OF IT, AND WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF STAFF TO PROVIDE ATTENTION. YEAH. , THANK YOU. WHAT WE DO FINANCIAL BACKING THAT FOR SERVICES SPECIFICALLY COMING TO OUR TOWN MEETING, WE JUST WANNA PUT ON THE NEXT AGENDA TO DO SO, . OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS, UM, UH, WE HAVE NICK PIEL. I DON'T THINK OFFICER MCCARTHY IS HERE CORRECT. TO TALK ABOUT, UM, A PROPOSED CONTRACT, UH, FOR EMS SERVICES IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG. THIS IS A CONTRACT. DO YOU GUYS HAVE A CONTRACT? I, I, I WENT THROUGH IT. WOULD YOU LIKE A COPY? I, I THINK IT'S IN HERE, BUT, UH, IF YOU HAVE A COPY RIGHT THERE, OTHER, IT'S, I KNOW IT'S IN THE PACKAGE. SO THIS CONTRACT EXPIRED, UH, I BELIEVE IN JUNE OF LAST YEAR. BUT A MR HAD AGREED TO CONTINUE TO SERVE THE TOWN OF HAMBURG. UM, WE HAD BEEN NEGOTIATING PRIOR TO JUNE AND, AND SINCE JUNE, UH, THE EMS SERVICES IS, IS REALLY, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF PRESSURE IN THAT INDUSTRY. THERE'S A LOT OF PRESSURE ON OUR VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENTS. UM, THERE IS A, A VOLUNTEERISM ISSUE. UM, WE COULD DEVOTE AN ENTIRE WORK SESSION TO THE ISSUES RELATED TO EMS. THERE'S CERTAINLY A STAFF SHORTAGE. UM, SO THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PIECES WHEN IT COMES TO EMERGENCY SERVICES, EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES, AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CHANGE WITHIN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG AS WELL. SO, UH, THESE NEGOTIATIONS, UH, HAVE BEEN POSITIVE, HAVE BEEN PROFESSIONAL, AND REALLY HAVE BEEN SOLUTION FOCUSED. IT'S, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A, A DIFFERENT NEGOTIATION BECAUSE WE REALLY NEED THESE NEGOTIATIONS TO BE INFORMED, UM, BY OUR, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCH AND OUR VOLUNTEER FIRE AGENCIES THROUGHOUT THE TOWN. UH, REALLY THERE'S A MAJOR CAPACITY ISSUE AND FOLKS THAT MAY HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING EMS, UH, SEE THAT THE ERIE COUNTY [00:40:01] IS NOW DIPPING THEIR TOE INTO THE EMS BUSINESS. SO THERE'S A LOT OF CHANGING THINGS. UM, THESE NEGOTIATIONS HAVE BEEN FRUITFUL AND HAVE RESULTED IN THE DOCUMENT THAT IS BEFORE US TONIGHT IF WE NEED TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE CONTRACT OR IF THE BOARD IS NOT COMFORTABLE, UH, UH, OR WOULD LIKE MORE TIME TO REVIEW THE CONTRACT. WE HAVE TIME, UH, A MR HAS IS, IS, UH, IS A WILLING AND GRACIOUS PARTNER TO THE TOWN OF HAMBURG. UM, BUT, UH, RIGHT NOW I'LL RECOGNIZE MR. PIEL JUST TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT, UH, WHAT, WHAT'S IN THE CONTRACT, WHAT WENT INTO IT, AND WHATEVER ELSE YOU HAVE FOR US, NICK UP THERE. YEAH, PLEASE. SO, AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN IN THE PARK DEPARTMENT, SO SINCE 2000 5:00 AM HAS BEEN A CONTRACTED BACKUP TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS WITHIN ALL MY DEPARTMENTS. UM, THEY STARTED OUT, I BELIEVE IN THE NINETIES AS THE PARAMEDIC BACKUP SERVICE BECAUSE VOLUNTEERISM IS HARD AND TAKING, MAKING MS CALLS QUITE TIME CONSUMING. UM, SO SUPERVISOR SAID THIS CONTRACT EXPIRED BACK IN JUNE. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM EVER SINCE. UM, HAD TO MAKE SOME CONCESSIONS. THEY WOULD MAKE SOME CONCESSIONS. BUT IN THE END, ONE OF THE BIG CHANGES THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS HAVE AGREED ON IS A MR WILL NOT BE GOING ORIGINALLY FOR INITIALLY TO BASIC LIFE CALLS. MY DISPATCH GETS CALL TO TRIAGED BASED ON A CRITERIA TO CALL, DEFINE DEFINES THE LEVEL OF CARE THAT THE CALL OF RESPOND TO LIGHTS AND SIRENS WITHOUT LIGHTS AND SIRENS. BASIC LIGHTS SUPPORT IT, LIGHTS SUPPORT. SO IF IT'S A BASIC LIGHTS SUPPORT CALL CAMERA WILL NOT BE GOING RIGHT AWAY. THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS WILL HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME TO GET THE RESPOND TO A CALL. AND THEN IF WE GO THROUGH TWO FIRE DEPARTMENTS, THEY CAN'T GET OUT THAT DAM R WOULD BE REQUESTED AND IF THEY'RE AVAILABLE, THEY WOULD GO. SO THERE'S GONNA BE SOME DISPATCH EXCHANGE MOVES WITHIN THAT AND AGREEMENTS THAT ALL THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS AGREED ON. WE DISCUSSED THIS AT LENGTH WITHIN THE CHIEFS ORGANIZATIONS BEFORE WE BROUGHT IT BACK TO HERE. UM, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT. UM, OBVIOUSLY WE WAS PAYING ATTENTION MORE WHILST WORKING IN ATONE A SERVICE, WHICH WILL ELABORATE ON LATER IF THIS JUST, THIS HAS HELPED GET US SLEEP AT THAT POINT. AND DOES WE NEED AM R WE AS VOLUNTEERS, WE CAN'T DO IT ALL. OUR CALL VOLUME HAS INCREASED TREMENDOUSLY. AND MY QUICK NUMBERS, FROM 2010 TO 2022 CALLS, RAW CALLS WITHIN THE TONE WENT UP, UH, 53%. IT'S A LOT OF CALLS THAT EMS CALLS CAN TAKE ANYWHERE FROM 20 MINUTES. IF YOU'RE GOING THERE DOING A EVALUATION AND A SIGN OFF TO GOING TO THE HOSPITAL, TAKE OVER THREE HOURS. AND THEN IT'S ALWAYS A RISK YOU GET ON THE AMBULANCE, YOU COME BACK AND YOU END UP ON ANOTHER CALL. SO THERE'S DAYS YOU GO IN THE AMBULANCE AND SIX, SEVEN HOURS LATER YOU LIKE TO GET BACK HOME. SO THAT'S WHY WE NEED A MR. WE NEED THAT BACKUP. VOLUNTEERS CAN'T DO IT ALONE. SO THERE IS OUR KIND OF SAFETY NET TO HELP US OUT, TO HELP US GET TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE. UM, I BELIEVE WE'RE GOOD TO GO ON IT. I RECEIVED CALL EARLIER FROM 10 WITH ONE LITTLE CAVEAT, IT JUST BELIEVE IT'S A WORDING ISSUE ON INSURANCE. AGAIN, NOTHING WITHIN THE FIRE PARTS WE NOTICED OR HAD TO RECOGNIZED, BUT IN MY OPINION, I THINK WE CAN STILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS CONTRACT JUST WITH THE EXPECTATION THAT THAT LITTLE WORDING WILL BE FIXED FOR INSURANCE. UM, ANY QUESTIONS? NO, I I, I'M GOOD. I NO, YOU EXPAND ON THAT, NICK. YEAH, PLEASE. REAL BRIEFLY TO MAKE IT CLEAR FOR EVERYONE. SO, UM, WE GOT A COPY OF THE, UH, NEW VERSION OF THE CONTRACT JUST IN THE LAST FEW DAYS. BUT I SPOTTED THE INSURANCE AND, UH, LOSS TRANSFER PROVISIONS. AND WHAT IS, UH, CRUCIAL FOR THE, UM, THE AGREEMENTS OF THIS NATURE IS THAT NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE THE INSURANCE EXPELLED OUT PROPERLY, BUT IT ACTUALLY HAS TO BE TO A CERTAIN LEVEL OF SPECIFICITY. BECAUSE IF WE DON'T INCLUDE THAT, UM, SPECIFIC REFERENCE IN THE AGREEMENT, UNDERLYING AGREEMENT, IT FAILS IN SOME CASES TO EFFECTUATE THE ACTUAL INSURANCE. WE KNOW THAT A MR HAS INSURANCE, WE KNOW THE TOWN HAS VARIOUS INSURANCES, BUT WE ALSO WANNA PROTECT THE TOWN WHEN, IF IT'S AN ISSUE WHERE THERE'S SOME SORT OF LITIGATION OR CLAIM THAT'S FILED AND IT COMES UNDER, UH, AM R'S INSURANCE BECAUSE IT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT THE TOWN WAS INVOLVED IN, THEN WE WANT THAT TO, UH, SHIELD, SO TO SPEAK, AND LOSS TRANSFER TO PROTECT, CONTINUE TO PROTECT THE TOWN. WHAT HAPPENS IS IF IT'S NOT, UH, SPECIFIED TO THE CORRECT DEGREE THAT MAY NOT, THAT MAY PREVENT THE LOSS TRANSFER VERSION OF BEING EFFECTUATED. SO TO PUT IT AS SIMPLY AS POSSIBLE, AND THIS WAS SPOTTED DOWN ACTUALLY BY ME, WAS SPOTTED. I LEARNED IT MANY, MANY YEARS AGO. WE DO IN ALL OUR REVIEWS, TYPICALLY FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, BUT I WILL WORK WITH THE INSURANCE CONSULTANTS FOR A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES, INCLUDING IN THIS CASE IT WOULD BE, UM, GALLAGHER USED TO BE EVANS SOON TO BE RENAMED, UH, AGENCY IS OUR INSURANCE CONSULTANTS. SO WHAT HAPPENS IS, UM, THE, THEY HAD, UH, SENT AN EMAIL ACTUALLY OUTLINING IT, BUT THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US HAS A VERY SHORT PROVISION. IT INDICATES THE TRUE INSURANCE [00:45:01] THAT NAMES THE ACCOUNT AS AN ADDITIONAL INSURED, BUT IT DOESN'T ADD THAT SPECIFICITY THAT'S NEEDED. SO THE KEY THING HERE IS TO JUST, IT'S VERY SIMPLE HOUSEKEEPING ITEM. WE WOULD JUST ADD A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA ADDITIONAL DETAIL AND THAT WOULD MAKE SURE THAT THE INSURANCE THAT WE KNOW A R HAS IS PROBABLY MORE THAN SUFFICIENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE LIMITS ARE CORRECT. WE JUST MAKE SURE THAT THE, UH, SPECIFICITY THERE AND THEN IT WOULD EFFECTUATE, EFFECTUATE ALL THEIR COVERAGE THAT PROTECTS THE TALENT BY EXTENSION, OF COURSE THE TAXPAYERS AND OF COURSE THE FIRE COMPANIES. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT IS. IT'S A SIMPLE HOUSEKEEPING ISSUE. IF THE TOWN BOARD WANTED TO MOVE AHEAD WITH THE RESOLUTION TONIGHT, THEY COULD DO SO AS LONG AS THEY JUST PUT THE CAVEAT SIMPLE EDITION THAT SAYS, UH, SUBJECT TO, UH, FINAL READ BY THE, UH, INSURANCE CONSULTANTS OF THE TOWN AND THE TOWN ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, UH, SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE, UH, INSURANCE AND LOSS TRANSFER PROVISIONS THAT, THAT PHRASE WOULD TAKE CARE OF IT. IF YOU WANTED TO MOVE AHEAD TONIGHT, YOU COULD TABLE IT IF YOU SO CHOSE. IT'S A SIMPLE HOUSEKEEPING PROVISION. SURE. WE'LL WRAP IT UP IN THE NEXT LITTLE BIT. IT DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING SIGNIFICANTLY ABOUT THE, THE OVERALL CONTEXT STRUCTURE. VERY GOOD. UM, AND NICK, JUST, UM, IF YOU, IF YOU COULD JUST, YOU'VE, YOU AND MR. MCCARTHY HAS KIND OF SERVED AS A LIAISON TO THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENTS, UM, AND AND THEY'RE ALL ON BOARD AND HAVE, AND ARE IN SUPPORT OF THIS CONTRACT, CORRECT? CORRECT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SIR. CHIEF ASSOCIATION. SO THERE, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT ALL OF YOU PUT INTO THIS. THANK YOU KNOW, DO YOU WANNA KNOW ABOUT IT WITH THE, WITH THIS THING OR DO WE HAVE TO CONTACT A MR TO, UH, GET THEIR APPROVAL? WELL, I'M, I'M GOOD WITH MR. FARRELL'S SUGGESTION THAT WE, UH, PASS THE RESOLUTION, UH, WITH THE CAVEATS THAT HE OUTLINED. UH, AND THEN, I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'LL BE A SIMPLE ISSUE THAT WILL BE EASILY RESOLVED. IT'S ACTUALLY AMAZING. UM, ALRIGHT, NOW WE HAVE, WE'RE AHEAD OF SCHEDULE, UH, WE HAVE A, UH, PRESENTATION, UH, BY MR. ROGERS FROM WENDELL ON THE INDUSTRIAL REZOS. HE'LL BE HERE AFTER THE MEETING. THANKS SO MUCH. YOU GAVE ME THE WHOLE STATE . I THOUGHT YOU WERE JUST GIVING ME A STATE. YES, I DO. THANK YOU. HELLO AGAIN. TODAY'S INTERVIEW. UH, COUNCILMAN . UH, MY NAME IS JOSHUA ROGERS. I WORK WITH WENDELL. UH, WE PROVIDE PLANNING SERVICES, UH, TO THE TOWN OF HAMBURG. UM, I'VE BEEN IN THE TOWN SINCE JANUARY OF 2022. UM, MY COLLEAGUE WHO WILL ACTUALLY BE HERE SHORTLY, HE'S ALSO BEEN PRESENTING IT'S BEEN WITH THE TOWN SINCE THE MID NINETIES. UM, AND WHAT I JUST WANTED TO DO TONIGHT WAS PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON SOME OF THE RESULTS THAT ARE GOING ON. WE HAVE A LOT FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE THAT'S BEEN GOING ON, UH, IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG. UM, THERE'S SOME THINGS ON THE HORIZON THAT I JUST WANTED TO BRING TO THE BOARD'S ATTENTION. UM, THE FIRST THING, UH, THAT I WANT TO GO OVER IS, UH, IF YOU GUYS RECALL EARLIER IN 2023, WE DID SOME TOWN SPONSORED INDUSTRIAL RESULTS. SO ESSENTIALLY THROUGH THE COP PLAN, UM, THE TOWN INVESTIGATING SPOTTED SOME PARTS OF THE TOWN THAT THEY FELT THAT WERE STILL INDUSTRIAL, THAT, UM, DIDN'T EITHER HAVE INDUSTRIAL USE ANYMORE OR SHOULD BE REZONED TO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. UM, EARLIER, UM, WE HAD SOME, UH, REZONINGS IN THE CAMP ROAD, THE STATELY DRIVE AREA, UM, WITH THE OPERATING ENGINEERS OPERATE FROM VERSA BESIDES IN PLEASANT. UM, AND THEN WHERE THE FEED MORE SITE IS ON CAMP ROAD, UM, WE HAD THOSE INDUSTRIAL RE ZONINGS GO THROUGH AND THOSE WERE ACTUALLY APPROVED LATE IN 2023. WE DO HAVE TWO OUTSTANDING RESOLUTIONS, UH, REZOS THAT YOU HAVE IN THE MAPS. UM, SO THE ONE MAP THAT I WANT TO DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO FIRST, UM, THERE'S THE ONE THAT SAYS LAKEVIEW ROAD AND MEMORIAL DRIVE. UM, ALL OF THESE PARCELS THAT ARE IN PURPLE RIGHT HERE ARE CURRENTLY ZONED M TWO. UM, WHAT WE HAVE THROUGH MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE BOARD AND CLINIC BOARD, WHAT WE HAVE COME UP WITH IS WE, UH, ANTICIPATE SEEING ALL OF THESE PARCELS BEING REZONED TO C TWO. UM, THE ONLY PARCEL, UM, THAT WE WOULD NOT REZONE IS C TWO. UM, SO SHOW YOU GUYS, IS THIS ONE IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER? THIS IS, THIS PARCEL IS ACTUALLY OWNED BY AN INDIVIDUAL. UM, AND WE [00:50:01] WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT REZONED TO R ONE BECAUSE IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THIS PART OF THE TOWN, ALL THE OTHER ADJACENT HOMES ARE OUR ONES. AND SO JUST TO RECAP, WE WOULD KEEP ALL THESE PARTS JOSEPH NUNAN. CORRECT. IS THAT CURRENTLY A RESIDENTIAL FACILITY THERE, RESIDENTIAL HOME OR IS IT A VACANT PIECE PROPERTY? IT IS. THERE'S A HOME ON THAT PROPERTY. OKAY. AND UM, SO IT BRINGS IT INTO COMPLIANCE WITH ITS CURRENT USE? EXACTLY. OKAY. UM, THE REST OF THE PARCELS, UM, THAT YOU SEE UNDERNEATH THAT ALL IN THE PURPLE, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE BE REZONED TO C TWO. THE SECOND MAP SHOULD BE, I SEE THERE SHOULD BE A MAP CALLED RAILROAD AVE AND LAKEVIEW ROAD. UM, RIGHT NOW, AS YOU CAN SEE, ALL THESE PARCELS ARE CURRENTLY ZONED M TWO. UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE ONE, THE PARCELS THAT ARE OWNED BY DONALD SPITLER, UM, 1957 INC. UM, AND DONALD SPITLER, UH, TO THE RIGHT WE WANNA SEE THOSE ZONED TO C TWO AND THEN THE PARCELS TO THE NORTH ONES BY SUSAN DILLON. UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE RESULT TO NC TO FIT IN. AS YOU SEE IN THE, UH, LIGHT BLUE, THOSE PARCELS ARE CURRENTLY NC SO WE WANT TO BRING THAT INTO CONFORMANCE, UH, WITH THAT PROPERTY RIGHT THERE. UM, WE HAVE CONSULTED, UH, A NUMBER OF TIMES WITH THE BOARD. UM, WE'VE GOTTEN SOME INPUT FROM THE PLANNING BOARD. UM, THIS IS KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT, THE NEXT STEPS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. IF WE HAVE A CONSENSUS FROM THE BOARD, UM, WE WOULD LIKE YOU GUYS TO AUTHORIZE US TO DO A COORDINATED REVIEW. ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE WOULD SEND SOME MATERIALS TO, UM, A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT AGENCIES, INCLUDING THE DOT TO THE DEC TO GET THEIR COMMENT. UM, AFTER 30 DAYS, UM, IF THERE ARE NO OUTSTANDING COMMENTS, THEN WE WOULD COME BACK TO THE TIME BOARD SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING, UM, AND IF YOU GUYS SEE FIT AND IF THERE ARE NO ISSUES FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE'D LIKE TO SEE, UH, THESE ZONINGS BE APPROVED. UM, SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR THERE'S ANYTHING ON THE PROCESS ON THAT SECOND MAP. IT'S ALL THREE OF THE, UM, PARCELS THAT ARE NOTED TO BE OWNED BY MR. SPITLER. ALL THREE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT C TWO OR JUST THE, UH, THE, THE TWO, THE TWO TO THE SOUTH. SO 1 9 3 0.00 SLASH FOUR SLASH SIX MM-HMM . AND ONE NINE, THE 1 9 3 0.00 SLASH FOUR SLASH SEVEN. THOSE WOULD BE C TWO AND THE OTHER ONE WOULD BE, THE OTHER ONE WOULD BE NC, CORRECT. NC. AND THEN WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER TWO? THE 1957, THOSE WOULD ALSO BE C TWO C TWO? CORRECT. WHAT IS THEIR CURRENT USE? UH, RIGHT NOW? UH, I THINK THEY'RE LIKE HOLDING, UM, OLD STORAGE. THEY'RE NOT CURRENTLY FOR AN INDUSTRIAL USE RIGHT NOW. THEY'RE JUST HOLDING, THEY'RE JUST STORING, UM, THINGS ON THE FACILITY. UM, AND WE COULD BASED OFF OF CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD, NOT ONLY FROM, UH, THE PLANNING BOARD AND FROM HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT'S NOT, THIS IS NOT, UH, PLACE IN THE TOWN THAT'S INDUSTRIAL. UM, AND IF WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE IT INDUSTRIAL AND IF WE'VE NOTED IT IN THE COMP PLAN, IT HAS TO BE ZONED AS SOMETHING. SO WE THINK, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AND C TWO ARE THE TWO BEST OPTIONS IN THIS AREA. AND THIS IS THE PARCEL, IF I'M CORRECT, BETWEEN THE TWO SETS OF RAILROAD TRACKS IN LAKEVIEW, CORRECT? CORRECT. YEAH. OKAY. AND THEN IS THERE A, THERE'S NOT A ROAD THAT ACCESSES THE BACK PARTS, RIGHT? YEAH, THERE IS NO CURRENT ROAD ACCESS. SO IF HE WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, PUT A USE IN THERE, HE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO BUILD THE ROAD ON HIS OWN. OKAY. AND A CURRENT USE AS, UM, RIGHT NOW THERE'S UH, STORAGE CENTERS ON THE FRONT PART HERE. THE SMALL PORTION HERE HAS LIKE STORAGE UNITS. CORRECT. AND THIS ONE HAS RECREATIONAL EQUIPMENT THAT'S STORED THERE? CORRECT. AND EVEN IF WE RESORT TO C TWO, THEIR USE WOULD BE GRANDFATHER AND SO THEY WOULD HAVE NO ISSUE. OKAY. AND BUT WHAT IF THE BUILDING THEY WERE TO BE DESTROYED IN A SNOWSTORM, WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO REBUILD BECAUSE IT'S A NONCONFORMING USE OR NO, THEY WOULD NOT. OKAY. ALL SWITCH IT WITH A MASTER PLAN CAP. CORRECT. UM, ARE WE GOOD TO SUBMIT FOR, UH, COORDINATOR REVIEW FOR BOTH OF THESE, BOTH OF THESE MAPS? WOULD THIS PART HERE ALSO REMAIN C TWO OR NO? WE ARE NOT TOUCHING THOSE, NO. OKAY. SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE M TWO AND THEN C TWO HERE. CAN YOU JUST, WHAT IS FOR THE REST OF US THAT ARE SITTING HERE, EXPLAIN THE VAST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN M TWO AND A C TWO? SO M TWO IS AN INDUSTRIAL USE, OBVIOUSLY THINGS LIKE WAREHOUSING, UM, STORES LIKE, UH, CHEMICAL PRODUCTS AND C TWO, UM, YOU CAN DO A LOT OF USES. SO C TWO IS PROBABLY THE MOST OPEN-ENDED, UM, ZONING DISTRICT IN THE TOWN. UM, YOU CAN STILL HAVE WAREHOUSING, UM, A LOT OF THE USES, SOME OF THE USES THAT ARE MM TWO, UM, YOU CAN STILL DO IN C TWO. UM, BUT C TWO JUST HAS A LOT MORE OPPORTUNITY IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO PUT A COMMERCIAL USE IN THIS AREA. OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE [00:55:01] A LOT MORE OPTIONS THAN AN M TWO. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO IN C TWO OBVIOUSLY CAN'T DO IT TOO. UM, SO THAT'S WHY WE KIND OF WANNA UPDATE IT AND MODERNIZE THIS AREA OF TOWN. LIKE YOU SAID, WE FEEL IT'S NOT INDUSTRIAL ANYMORE, SO WE FELT C TWO WAS THE MOST OPEN-ENDED TO GIVE PEOPLE THE MOST CREATIVITY TO DO SOMETHING ELSE IN THIS AREA. OKAY. BUT IT WON'T SATISFY WHAT IT'S CURRENTLY BEING USED FOR. SO JOSH PULLS A QUESTION TO US. IF WE'RE, UH, READY TO MOVE ON TO A COORDINATED REVIEW, UM, I WOULD SAY THAT I AM IN FAVOR OF THAT. AND IF ANYBODY ON THE BOARD IS NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT, I WOULD ASK THEM TO SPEAK NOW. WELL, AND JUST GOING THROUGH THE COORDINATED REVIEW DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE AGREED TO THE ZONING CHANGES. WE'RE WILLING TO HEAR DECISION, WE'RE JUST GETTING COMMENTS FROM AGENCY AND THEN BRING THOSE COMMENTS BACK TO YOU AND WE'LL HAVE A FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING. AND THE, THE OWNERS OF THESE PROPERTIES ARE ALL AWARE AND THEY'VE MADE AWARE AND THEY'LL ALSO HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AT THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE'VE ACTUALLY HEARD FROM ONE OF THE OWNERS, BUT EXTENSIVELY HE'S BEEN AT BOARD MEETINGS. GOOD EVENING, WE'RE JUST DRIVING , JUST UPDATE. COULDN'T THIS PRETTY JACK? WE DID HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THESE DUE IN THE PAST. UH, WE DID DO A COORDINATOR REVIEW. WE GOT A LOT OF GOOD INPUT FROM THE RESIDENTS AND THE PEOPLE WHO OWN THE PROPERTY AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE MADE SOME CHANGES TO IT AND ARE GOING BACK TO YOU TO START THAT PROCESS ALL OVER AGAIN. ALL REQUIRES US TO DO THAT PROCESS, NOTIFY PEOPLE, ET CETERA. UM, BUT WE LISTENED TO THE, TO THE PEOPLE THAT CAME. WE TRIED TO ADDRESS MR. SPITZER'S ISSUES AND OTHER PEOPLE IN THE AREA AS BEST WE COULD WITHOUT LEAVING THE PROPERTY ZONE STOPPED. GO TO THIS MIX. NO SENSE THAT OLD LAKEVIEW, AS YOU KNOW, WAS A CHEMICAL PLANTS DOWN THERE AND, AND RAILROAD ACCESS IS NO LONGER THAT TYPE OF TYPE OF AREA. AND ALSO FOR THE OTHER AREA, SAME THING. IT'S NO LONGER AN INDUSTRIAL AREA. MATTER OF FACT, IT MO MATCHES THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURG'S PLAN, UH, THAT HAS THE SAME, UH, TRANSITION GOING ON IN THAT AREA OF MIXED USES AND OTHER THINGS IF THAT AREA. SO WE'RE TRYING TO MATCH THE VILLAGE'S PLAN, THE TOWN'S PLAN, AND THE TOWN'S FUTURE, BUT ACCOMMODATE THE PEOPLE ARE THERE, ARE THERE, WE'RE TRYING NOT TO MAKE ANYBODY NON-CONFORMING. WE'RE TRYING NOT TO DO THAT. THAT'S WHY WE COMPROMISE ON THE C TWO FOR MR. SPITLER AND FOR THE OTHER PROPERTIES AND NC ON THE OTHER SIDE, 'CAUSE OF THE HOUSE ON THE OTHER SIDE, RIGHT? THESE NC ALLOWS THAT PERSON TO, IF HIS HOUSE BURNED DOWN, THEY COULD REBUILD THAT HOUSE. SO WE'RE TRYING TO DO STUFF THAT BEST ACCOMMODATE THE PLAN, BUT ALSO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE. SORRY FOR THE INTERRUPT. NO, I WAS INVOLVED FROM THE DAY ONE ON THIS ONE. IS THERE ANY OTHER PARCEL IN ERIE COUNTY THAT YOU CAN THINK OF THAT HAS A RAILROAD TRACK? VERY ACTIVE RAILROAD TRACKS ON EITHER SIDE? IT'S NOT A VERY WIDE PARCEL THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. AND THAT THAT'S, AND THOSE ARE VERY BUSY RAILROAD TRACKS WITH VERY FAST CRANES, RIGHT? VERY BUSY RAILROAD TRACKS. THERE USED TO BE A SIDING THERE AND THAT MADE SENSE IN THE, IN THE PAST DECADES THAT THEY HAD. IT WAS INDUSTRIAL AREA, BUT THE SIDING DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE. THERE'S NO TRAINS THAT ARE EVER GONNA STOP THERE AND UNLOAD ANYMORE. RIGHT? UH, SO IT'S BASICALLY, WE'RE TRYING TO TRANSITION IT BACK TO IF YOU, YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH LAKEVIEW. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL LITTLE DOWN DOWNTOWN AREA TRYING TO TRANSITION THOSE INDUSTRIAL BACK TO COMMERCIAL. THAT'S WHY THE NEIGHBORHOOD COULD COMMERCIAL ON THE OTHER SIDE. 'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE ALL THOSE BUSINESSES ARE. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE OTHER BUSINESS ON THE OTHER SIDE THAT DOES THAT STORAGE. THAT ONE WE HAD PROBABLY IN THE LONG RUN. SOME ENFORCEMENT ISSUES THERE. MM-HMM . WE VISITED THE SITE. THERE IS OUTDOOR STORAGE. YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE OUTDOOR STORAGE ALL OVER THAT PROPERTY THAT WAS APPROVED A COUPLE DECADES AGO. RIGHT. THERE'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE OUTDOOR STORAGE. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A VERY RUN, NICE STORAGE FACILITY. SO WE'RE TRYING TO CLEAN UP THOSE AREAS AND MAKE LAKEVIEW ONCE WHAT IT WAS. VERY GOOD. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE CONSENSUS TO MOVE ON TO COORDINATE REVIEW. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. THANK MEETING. THANKS JOSH. IS THAT A NICE, UH, SLIDE SEGUE INTO MIKE? YES, SIR. DREW RILEY WITH WENDELL. I JUST WANTED TO COME TONIGHT AND, AND THANK THE BOARD. THIS IS GOING TO BE, IF YOU APPROVE OUR CONTRACT THE 30TH YEAR, PROVIDING SERVICES TO THE, TO THE TOWN OF PAMPER. UH, WE HAVE ENJOYED OUR TIME HERE. UH, WE HELD UP ON SUBMITTING OUR CONTRACT. WE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH BETH AND THE SUPERVISOR ABOUT OUR CONTRACT AND WHAT SHOULD GO IN THERE BECAUSE THE TOWN WAS TRYING TO FORMULATE WHAT THEY WERE GONNA DO IN 2024. 2023 WAS A TRANSITION TIME. THE ANNALISE JOINING THE TOWN AND WE HELPED WITH THAT TRANSITION. UH, A AND AS SARAH LEFT, SARAH'S NOW BACK WITH THE TOWN. IT'S A GREAT, SHE'S GONNA BE HELPING ANNALISE TAKING OVER SOME OF THE ZONING BOARD STUFF AND ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS THAT, THAT WE, WE REALLY COULDN'T GET TO. SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE MY CONTACT MATCHED WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH IN THE, IN THE LONG-TERM PLAN FOR THE, FOR THE PLANNING. WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S A LONG-TERM PLAN FOR THAT. YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE THAT DEPARTMENT AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE AND HAS SEEN CHANGES OVER THE YEARS, OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS. AND WE'D LIKE TO SEE IT CONTINUE TO GROW AND MAKE, MAKE SENSE FOR THE TOWN. UH, IT IS, AS YOU KNOW, AS YOU, AS YOU SEE TONIGHT, A LOT OF THE CONTROVERSIAL [01:00:01] ISSUES COME THROUGH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND PLANNING BOARD. ANNISE GETS THOSE CALLS EVERY DAY. SO DOES THE ENGINEER DEPARTMENT ABOUT DEVELOPMENT IN THE TOWN. SO WE TRY TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES. WE ALSO KEEP YOU AS PART OF OUR CONTRACT, UH, UH, ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE REGION AND WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COUNTRY. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE PEOPLE LIKE JOSH AND OTHERS PAYING ATTENTION TO THOSE THINGS. I MEAN, AS WE SEE THE WORLD CHANGE, SEE A NEW STADIUM BEING BUILT, YOU'RE GONNA SEE CHANGES IN THAT END OF THE TOWN. HINT, HINT, YOU SHOULD BE COORDINATING WITH IT OUT OF ORCHARD PARK. CONTINUE THAT COORDINATION. THEY'RE DOING STUDIES THERE ABOUT WHAT THEY ENVISION THAT AREA TO BE. YOU'RE SEEING TRANSITION, MCKINLEY MALL, OTHER PLACES LIKE THAT. WORK AT HOME HASN'T REALLY IMPACTED YET THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, BUT I COULD SEE IT HAPPENING. LARGE CITIES ARE SEEING HUGE CHANGES IN THEIR COMMUNITIES BECAUSE OF WORK FROM HOME AND, AND CHANGES IN OFFICE SPACE. UM, WE'RE TRYING TO INTEGRATE ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN, IN THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND BRING THOSE THINGS TOGETHER. LIKE I SAID, WE'D LOOK FOR, WE HAVE A DRAFT CONTRACT. UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT WORK FOR THE TOWN. BUT WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU AGREE THAT THIS IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING FOR THE TOWN. UH, FOR THE NEXT YEAR. WE DO A ONE YEAR CONTRACT WITH THE TOWN TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO TRY TO ACCOMPLISH. THERE'S OTHER COMPONENTS OF THAT WITH JOSH ATTENDING THE CODE REVIEW MEETING AND THEN OUR INVOLVEMENT IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IMPLEMENTATION, WHICH IS ALSO EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. ONE OF THE COMPLAINTS WE HEARD OVER THE YEARS WAS AFTER THE LAST CONFERENCE PLAN WAS ADOPTED, SO MANY YEARS WENT BY AND THE PEOPLE WERE SAYING, NOTHING'S HAPPENING. YOU'RE NOT IMPLEMENTING THE PLAN. SO THERE'S NEW PLAN HAS A STRONG IMPLEMENTATION SECTION THAT SAYS, THIS WILL GO ON TILL YOU DO THE NEXT UPDATE. SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT CHANGE OCCURS AND IT CHANGE IS A HARD THING TO UNDERSTAND, BUT YOU GOTTA CHANGE, YOU WILL CHANGE WITH OR WITHOUT A CONFERENCE PLAN. THAT'S AN IMPLEMENTATION. YOU WANNA TRY TO GUIDE THAT CHANGE AS THE COMMUNITY GROWS AND CHANGES. SO THAT'S MY KIND OF SPIEL, BUT I'M SURE WE HAVE NEW BOARD MEMBERS, UM, QUESTIONS FOR HOW WE'RE PROVIDING THOSE SERVICES. SOME FAMILIAR FACES. SO BRIAN'S VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE PLANNING BOARD AND KEN'S VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE ACTIONS OF THE TOWN BOARD. SO YOU, WOULD YOU JUST GO, ESPECIALLY FOR UM, NEW BOARD MEMBERS, WOULD YOU JUST GO OVER ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES BETWEEN THE PREVIOUS CONTRACT AND THIS CURRENT? I GET LAST YEAR, I'LL PUT THE NUMBER THERE. THE CONTRACT LAST YEAR WAS FOR $66,000 IN THAT THE CONTRACT IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME. WHAT SERVICES WE PROVIDE ATTENDING PLANNING BOARD MEETINGS, REVIEWING PLANS, DOING COORDINATION, DOING ALL THOSE THINGS THAT ARE LISTED IN THAT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LAST YEAR'S AND THIS YEAR. LAST YEAR WE ALSO HAD, WE GOT A CHANGE ORDER REQUEST TO HELP WITH THAT BIG TRANSITION THAT WAS OCCURRING, UH, FOR THIS YEAR, BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE WITH, WITH SARAH THERE, WE'VE PUT A LOT LESS MONEY IN THERE FOR THAT TRANSITION TIME. SO WE'VE ONLY HAD 20,000 INSTEAD OF WHAT IT WAS LAST YEAR WAS A LOT MORE. IT WAS IN THE RANGE OF 50 TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO DO ALL THE WORK ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. SO WE PUT 20 EXTRA THOUSAND DOLLARS TO CONTINUE THAT TRANSITION WORK AND TRYING TO HELP THE TOWN SET UP. I'M EXCITED ABOUT HAVING ANNALISE AND JOSH AND THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT MODERNIZING THINGS. THAT'S BEEN MY BIG PREACHING AND KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN LISTENING ABOUT MODERNIZING DEPARTMENT. NOTHING SHOULD BE IN HAND ANYMORE. NOTHING SHOULD BE WRITTEN. IT ALL SHOULD BE COMPUTERIZED. GIS SYSTEM. ELISE HAS PUT TOGETHER A GREAT, WE'VE WORKED WITH HER PUT TOGETHER OF TRACKING ALL THE PROJECTS, MAKING SURE THAT THINGS ARE OCCURRING CORRECTLY. BY THE WAY, WE'LL WORK WITH THE, THE TOWN ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, LOCAL LAW ADOPTIONS. WE HAVE A CHECKLIST AND I KNOW CINDY HELPS OUT WITH THAT TO MAKE SURE THOSE THINGS OCCUR AND HOW THE PROCESS WORKS. FOR EXAMPLE, WE DID HAVE A, A MISTAKE IN THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS. IF YOU GO ON TOWN'S WEBSITE, THOSE PROPERTIES THAT WERE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT SHOW UP ON THE GIS MAP, WHICH IS YOUR OFFICIAL ZONING MAP IS ALREADY BEING CHANGED. THEY HAVE NOT CHANGED. THERE WAS A SLIP UP IN THE PROCESS. WE DON'T, WE BASICALLY GET THE, THE LAYERS AND THEN WE HAVE A GIF WE PUT THE LAYERS ON THE SITE. IT WAS NOT EVER DOUBTED. WE HAD A PUBLIC HEARING. SO THOSE LAYERS SHOULD NOT HAVE CHANGED. SO WE ADDED A STEP TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNTER ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SEES THOSE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THOSE LAWS TO BE FILED AT THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE AND WAIT A TIME PERIOD BEFORE THEY GO GIF. SO I ADMIT THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE FOLLOWING THOSE PROCESSES BECAUSE THAT MAP IS THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE TOWN AND IT SHOWS THOSE PROPERTIES ALREADY REZONED. THEY HAVE NOT BEEN REZONED. THAT'S WHY I POINTED OUT TO JOSH. IF THEY HAVEN'T BEEN REZONED, THAT MAP'S GOTTA CHANGE. WE HAD A PUBLIC HEARING BUT NEVER PROCESSED IT. WE PROCESSED THE OTHER TWO THAT THESE, WE HAD ENOUGH COMMENTS ON WE WANTED TO RETAKE A LOOK AT. SO, BUT IT'S THE BIGGEST CHANGE IS CONTINUING THOSE SERVICES, RAMPING 'EM DOWN A LITTLE BIT WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF SARAH AND BASICALLY TRYING TO HELP CONTINUE THAT TRANSITION OF HOW THE PLANNING OFFICE IS GONNA RUN OVER THE NEXT, NEXT FEW YEARS. THANK YOU, DREW. THANK YOU. AND, UH, HOPEFULLY IN THE, AND THE, THE NEXT MEETING, YOU MAY BE ABLE TO ACT ON THAT, ON THAT COMMENT. WE'LL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES. ANN ELISE HAS SOME REPORTING WITH . YEAH, YEAH. UM, I WANNA GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS [01:05:01] ABOUT THE GRANT THAT WE RECEIVED FROM ERIE COUNTY. SO THERE'S A RESOLUTION, IT'S NUMBER 23, UM, AND ACCEPTING THE GRANT FROM ERIE COUNTY TO DO THE LAKE A CORRIDOR STUDY. UM, SO JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHAT IT IS. UM, BACK IN OCTOBER WE APPLIED FOR, UM, COUNTY FUNDING THAT, UM, THEY ARE COMING OUT WITH, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF COVID AND THE, THE FEDERAL MONEY THAT'S COMING IN. SO THE COUNTY HAS A REALLY UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY THAT THEY HAVEN'T HAD IN A VERY LONG TIME TO PROVIDE MONEY TO THE COUNTIES OR TO THE MUNICIPALITIES. SO THEY HAD $350,000 THAT THEY WERE DISTRIBUTING. UM, ACROSS ERIE COUNTY. WE PUT IN THREE APPLICATIONS, UM, ONE FOR A SIDEWALK MASTER PLAN, WHICH IS REALLY NEEDED IN THE TOWN. UM, THE PLANNING BOARD REALLY NEEDS IT, UH, FOR IMPLEMENTING OUR SIDEWALK REQUIREMENTS. UM, BUT WE ALSO SUBMITTED FOR A HOUSING STUDY AND WE SUBMITTED FOR A LAKE GAP CORRIDOR STUDY. AND THE COUNTY, UM, FUNDED THE LAKE GAP CORRIDOR STUDY. SO, UM, THE, THE STUDY WOULD, UH, BE EVALUATIONS OF THE CURRENT SITE ASSESSMENT OF THE CURRENT SITE ASSESSMENT. THEY WOULD DO TRAFFIC COUNTS, UM, TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY AND WHAT POTENTIAL, UM, TRAFFIC CALMING STRATEGIES COULD BE IMPLEMENTED. UM, THEY WOULD THEN MOVE ON TO DESIGN OPPORTUNITIES. SO THEY WOULD COME UP WITH THREE DIFFERENT DESIGN OPTIONS THAT WOULD BE LISTED OUT IN THE PLAN. AND I TALKED TO ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND WE SAID THAT THAT COULD BE, THAT CAN BE A JOINT PROCESS, UM, WHERE THEY CAN EVEN INPUT CAN BE ADDED THERE AND IT CAN BE PRESENTED BEFORE IT'S OFFICIALLY ADDED INTO THE PLAN. SO THERE IS OPPORTUNITY FOR COLLABORATION BETWEEN BOARD THE DIFFERENT, THE DEPARTMENTS AND GOBI BEFORE THAT, UM, PLAN WAS SOLIDIFIED. UM, AND THEN WE WOULD ALSO BE DOING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND OUTREACH. UM, IT'S A PARTICULARLY OPPORTUNE AREA BECAUSE, UH, THAT AREA OF LAKE AVE AND BLAZEDALE IS UNDERSERVED AND DOES HAVE HIGHER POVERTY RATES IN THE, IN THE TOWN AND OTHER AREAS. UM, AND IT ALSO, IF YOU HAVE READ THE ACTIVE MOBILITY ACTION PLAN, UM, THEY DO HAVE LESS ACCESS TO VEHICLES. SO THAT AREA IS SOMEWHERE WHERE YOU SEE HIGHER WALKABILITY AND PEDESTRIANS TRAVELING FOR DAILY NEEDS, SUCH AS WORK, GETTING TO BUS STOPS OR SHOPPING. SO, UM, PART OF THIS GRANT IS ACTUALLY COMMUNITY REVITALIZATION. SO IT'S NOT JUST FOCUSING ON THE SAFETY OF LAKE CAB, IT'S ALSO LOOKING AT HOW CAN WE BRING A LITTLE BIT MORE LIFE BACK INTO THIS AREA. AND SO THAT WOULD GO HAND IN HAND WITH THAT WALKING, ENHANCING THE, THE SHOPPING AND WORK CENTERS. UM, AND THEN LASTLY, WE BUDGETED AND PLANNED IN THE PROJECT THAT THERE COULD BE A DEMONSTRATION. SO A DEMONSTRATION IS WHERE TEMPORARY SOLUTIONS ARE PUT IN PLACE TO MIMIC WHAT WOULD IT BE LIKE IF ONE OF THESE DESIGN OPTIONS WAS IMPLEMENTED. UM, AND IT CAN GO UP FOR ANYWHERE BETWEEN A WEEK TO THREE MONTHS, DEPENDING ON FUNDING, DEPENDING ON, UM, WHAT THE BOARD IS WILLING TO DO. UM, AND THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO REALLY INTERACT WITH THE POTENTIAL SOLUTION AND SEE HOW IT CAN ACTUALLY, UM, IMPACT THEIR LIVES IN A POSITIVE AND A NEGATIVE WAY. UM, AND THEN IT WOULD ALSO LOOK AT FUNDING AND PERMANENT IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGIES. THE PLAN WOULD, SO THIS WOULD JUST BE A DEMONSTRATION AND A STUDY, BUT THE NEXT STEP WOULD OF COURSE BE TO FIND FUNDING TO ACT, IMPLEMENT THE PLAN. AND YOU SAID YOUR COLLABORATION, OF COURSE, AT EACH STEP ALONG THE WAY INCLUDES THE COUNTY BECAUSE OF THE YES, YES. PERFECT. YEAH, THANKS. COUNTY'S IN THERE. AND THEY, SO WHEN WE FIRST APPLIED FOR THIS GRANT, WE REACHED OUT TO THE COUNTY AND LET THEM KNOW THAT WE WERE APPLYING. I TALKED WITH GINA, I WAS IN CORRESPONDENCE WITH MARIELLI, UM, AND EVEN SOME OF THE HIGHER UPS IN THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENT AND PLANNING, THEY'RE VERY INVESTED BECAUSE THIS IS A COUNTY ROAD AND THERE'S BEEN SOME PRETTY TRAGIC FATALITIES THERE. SO THEY, THEY HAVE, UM, IT'S HIGH ON THEIR RADAR. THEY'VE EXPRESSED, LIKE, EXPRESSED THAT TO US PRETTY CLEARLY THAT THEY WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING HAPPEN HERE BECAUSE IT'S, IT IS THEIR ROAD. SO THAT'S A PRETTY EXTENSIVE LIST, UH, OF THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THIS GRANT. MM-HMM . YOU'RE CONFIDENT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO KEEP WITHIN THE $40,000 BUDGET WITH ALL OF THOSE ASPECTS? YEAH, SO GOBANK SUBMITTED A PRETTY DETAILED LINE BY LINE BUDGET, WHICH I SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT TO YOU GUYS AND CONSENT TO YOU. UM, I CAN EMAIL IT WHEN I SIT DOWN. THEY HAVE, UM, SUBMITTED HOURS AND WAGES FOR EACH HOUR. SO, AND THEY, THEY'RE PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT THEY CAN DO IT AND I HAVE FAITH IN 'EM. I'VE SEEN THEIR WORK AND I KNOW THAT THEY DO GOOD THINGS, ESPECIALLY IN THE, IN THE DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES. UM, THEY WORK REGIONWIDE, NOT JUST IN THE CITY OF BUFFALO. UM, AND WE DID HAVE SOME MONEY LEFT [01:10:01] OVER IN THE ACTIVE MOBILITY ACTION PLAN THAT WAS ACTUALLY, UH, UH, SET ASIDE FOR DEMONSTRATION. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THIS IS BEING SUPPLEMENTED. SO IT DOES GO A LITTLE OVER THE 40, BUT THAT'S NOT, UM, SOMETHING THAT YOU SEE IN THE, THE COUNTY MONEY BECAUSE THAT'S EXTRA OUTSIDE OF COUNTY AND THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA AND THEY'VE ALREADY DONE CORRECT, YOU KNOW, UM, WALK AUDITS, ET CETERA. SO IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE STARTING NEW. THAT'S CORRECT. WHICH I'M SURE IS VERY HELPFUL. SO THIS IS A DIRECT CONTINUITY FROM THE ACTIVE MOBILITY ACTION PLAN. SO THE ACTIVE MOBILITY ACTION PLAN ACTUALLY LISTS BLAKE A AS A PRIORITY AREA AND THIS, THAT WAS ONE OF THE AREAS THEY STUDIED IN CREATING THAT, WHICH IS WHAT JUSTIN PRESENTED ON THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR PRESENTED ON THE LAST MEETING. RIGHT. ELISE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. SO WE ARE AHEAD OF SCHEDULE. UH, WE HAVE, UH, 22 MINUTES BEFORE OUR, UM, OUR PRESENTATIONS. UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD. ALRIGHT. THEN I PROPOSE THAT WE TAKE A 22 MINUTE RECESS BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AT SEVEN O'CLOCK. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? YEP. AYE, AYE. [01:32:27] SO [01:32:27] WE'RE [01:32:27] GONNA [01:32:27] CALL TO ORDER THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD. SO JUST TO GIVE AN OUTLINE OF, UH, OUR PROCEDURES FOR THE EVENING. UH, WE HAVE, UH, A LENGTHY AGENDA THIS EVENING. UH, WE HAVE, UH, TWO, WE HAD THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS SCHEDULED, BUT ONE APPLICATION HAS BEEN SO, UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE. UH, WE WILL NOT BE DOING A PUBLIC HEARING ON, UH, LOCAL LAW NUMBER 14. UH, ONCE WE GET THROUGH THE AGENDA, UM, AS WE'RE MOVING THROUGH THE AGENDA, IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD REGARDING ANY OF THESE ITEMS, WE INVITE YOU TO, TO, TO STAND, UM, OR, UH, MAKE IT KNOWN THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK. AND, UH, YOU'LL BE AFFORDED THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE BOARD. UM, IF YOU'RE HERE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE'LL LET YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE PUBLIC HEARING IS AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW, UM, WHAT ITEM IT IS. SO EVERYBODY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. I SUSPECT WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS HERE FOR THE, FOR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. ONCE WE DO GET THROUGH THE ENTIRE AGENDA, WE THEN OPEN IT UP TO, UH, PUBLIC EXPRESSION AGAIN. UH, WE ASK YOU TO, TO STAND, RAISE YOUR HAND, MAKE IT KNOWN THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. WE HAVE, UH, SIGN IN SHEETS FOR BOTH THE PUBLIC HEARING, FOR ALL THE PUBLIC HEARINGS UPFRONT ON THIS STOOL. IF YOU'RE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, WE ASK YOU TO, UH, PLEASE SIGN YOUR NAME AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE YOU. OF COURSE. IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO, TO SIGN UP, WE'LL STILL MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. ONCE WE MOVE THROUGH PUBLIC EXPRESSION, UH, WE WILL THEN MOVE TO REPORTS FROM DEPARTMENT HEADS, UH, WHO WILL REPORT ON PROGRESS IN THEIR DEPARTMENTS TO THE BOARD. AND THEN WE WILL, UH, RECOGNIZE TOWN BOARD MEMBERS FOR REPORTS FROM THE TOWN BOARD. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE, UH, THE TOWN CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL SUPERVISOR. HO PRESENT, COUNCIL MEMBER BALKI HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER ZA HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER UFFORD HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER ETTE HERE. I WOULD ASK YOU FOLKS TO PLEASE RISE, UH, FOR THE PLEDGE TO THE FLAG COUNCIL ALLEGIANCE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND REPUBLIC BEFORE WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE. CARL. [01:35:11] SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A SLIGHT CHANGE IN THE AGENDA TO, UH, MOVE A COUPLE ITEMS TO THE FRONT. THESE ARE QUICK CEREMONIAL ITEMS, UM, ITEMS, NAMELY, UH, AGENDA NUMBER 28, WHICH IS ADDING, UH, WHICH IS HIRING A PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCHER, AS WELL AS, UH, A PROCLAMATION AND RECOGNITION OF LUCIA ON THE LAKE. IS THERE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM LUCIA HERE TONIGHT? OKAY. THEY WEREN'T SURE IF THEY WERE GONNA BE ABLE TO MAKE IT, BUT WE'LL KEEP THAT ON THE, IN THE AGENDA IN ITS ORIGINAL POSITION. SO, UH, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS FROM THE BOARD, I WOULD LIKE TO START WITH, UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 28, PAGE 87, WHICH IS PAGE 87 IN, UH, THE TOWN BOARD'S AGENDA. ALSO, THERE, THERE, I BELIEVE THERE'S A FEW AGENDAS LEFT IN THE, UH, UP THERE ON, ON MY RIGHT, YOUR LEFT. UH, IF FOR FOLKS THAT WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW AROUND, FOLLOW ALONG, UH, SO THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 28. RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVE THE APPOINTMENT OF MICHAEL D. COLE TO THE VACANT FULL-TIME PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCHER POSITION, PROBATIONARY EFFECTIVE FEBRUARY 5TH, 2024. MR. COLE HAS MET CIVIL SERVICE REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS POSITION AND IS CURRENTLY ON THE CIVIL SERVICE LIST. EXAM NUMBER 66 DASH 6 84. THIS APPOINTMENT IS SUBJECT TO ALL PRECONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO A PHYSICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL EVALUATION. SALARY IS $26 AND 78 CENTS PER HOUR, AND FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN A 3 0 2 0 1 0 0. SO MOVED SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? CARRIED. I'D LIKE TO INVITE, UH, MR. KARATE AS WELL AS MR. COLE TO THE FRONT OF THE ROOM FOR A, UH, PICTURE WITH THE TOWN BOARD. I, WE SHOULD OTHER ONES. I JUST WANNA, UM, SAY THANK YOU TO THE BOARD FOR THE SUPPORT. UH, IT'S REALLY, REALLY ENCOURAGING, UH, TO START OFF WITH THE NEW YEAR WITH THE NEW EMPLOYEE AND ESPECIALLY WHILE WE HAVE THE, THE PRIVILEGE TO, UM, HAVE MIKE, UH, JOINING OUR TEAM. WE'RE A PRETTY WELL-OILED MACHINE AND, UH, SEEING MIKE'S RESUME AND WHEN WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN AND, AND REVIEW AND, UM, LEARN MORE ABOUT HIM, HE'S REALLY BRINGS A LOT TO OUR TEAM. SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO KICK OFF 2024 AND, UH, DO SOME OF YOU ON OUR TEAM. SO THANK YOU AND WELCOME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT, SO THAT WILL TAKE US TO OUR FIRST, WELL, OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING. WE WERE PULLING FROM THE AGENDA AS THE APPLICANT. UH, THAT WAS A PROJECT ON LAKE SHORE ROAD. IT WAS A CHANGE FROM M THREE TO C TWO TO ALLOW FOR A CAR WASH. I KNOW THE RESIDENTS OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG AND WOULD BE TERRIBLY DISAPPOINTED THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER CAR WASH TO FREQUENT. UM, BUT THAT APPLICATION HAS BEEN PULLED. UH, WOULD THE TOWN CLERK LIKE ME TO READ THE PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE? YES. YES. SO THIS IS ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PUBLIC HEARING. PROPOSED LOCAL LAW NUMBER 15. UH, PLEASE TAKE NOTICE THAT THERE HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO THE TOWN BOARD ON DECEMBER 11TH, 2023 PURSUANT TO MUNICIPAL HOME RULE LAW, A PROPOSED LOCAL LAW TO BE KNOWN AS PROPOSED LOCAL LAW. NUMBER 15, 20 23 SAID LOCAL LAW PROVIDES FOR THE AMENDMENT OF LOCAL LAW NUMBER 10 19 86, CHAPTER TWO 80 ENTITLED ZONING AND PROVIDES SUBSTANTIALLY AS FOLLOWS FOR THE ADOPTION OF AMENDMENT TO SAID ZONING CODE TO REZONE [01:40:01] A 3.82 ACRE LOT AT 54 89 SOUTHWESTERN BOULEVARD. THAT IS SPLIT ZONED R FOUR GENERAL RESIDENCE MOBILE HOME COURT DISTRICT IN THE BACK AND C TWO GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IN THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY TO ALL C TWO GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. THIS PROPERTY IS IDENTIFIED BY SBL NUMBER 180 2 0 9 DASH ONE DASH EIGHT. THEREFORE PURSUANT TO THE STATUTES AND PROVISIONS OF THE MUNICIPAL HOME RULE LAW, THE TOWN BOARD AT THE TOWN OF HAMBURG WILL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON JANUARY 22ND, 2023 AT 7:00 PM LOCAL TIME, AT WHICH TIME ALL INTERESTED PERSONS MAY BE HEARD. YEAH. GOOD EVENING, SUPERVISOR. I, I THINK YOU GUYS ARE THE NEXT ONE. THEY, THAT WAS YOU CALLED , THAT THE NEXT, AFTER THIS ONE. SEPTEMBER FOUR. THAT WAS R SO THIS IS, THIS IS R FOUR. THE, THIS IS THE MOBILE HOME COURT. NO, THAT, OKAY, WE'LL SIT BACK OUT AND JUST SIT RIGHT THERE. SO THIS IS, THIS IS THE MOBILE HOME COURT THAT IS LOCATED, UM, I FORGET THE NAME OF THE BUSINESS NOW, BUT FOLKS MAINLY NUMBER, UH, GREEN CLOVER T UM, AND FEEL FREE TO, TO BRIEF US ON THE PROJECT. YES, THANK YOU. BILL HEISLER, ASSOCIATE BROKER WITH HANNAH COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE. I WAS CONTACTED BY THE OWNER TO REPRESENT THEM TO LIST THE PROPERTY ON INVESTIGATION. WE FOUND THERE WAS SPLIT ZONING THERE, R FOUR IN THE BACK, C TWO IN THE FRONT. WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING IS THAT IT BE C TWO, LIKE ALL THE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT SURROUND IT AND MAKE IT ONE SIMPLE C TWO ZONING. UH, WE WANNA DO THIS BEFORE WE LIST IT SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS AS PART OF A CONTINGENCY OF A CONTRACT. WE ALSO FEEL IT'LL BRING A HIGHER VALUE ONCE WE LIST IT, WHICH WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THE TOWN. VERY GOOD. ANY ANY QUESTIONS? NO. MAKES SENSE TO ME. I GOT QUESTIONS. MY NAME IS ANTHONY BRI. MY PROPERTY IS DIRECTLY BEHIND THAT AREA. WHAT EFFECTS THAT GONNA HAVE ON MY PROPERTY? WE HAVE AGREED TO A BUFFER AND A BERM THAT IS GONNA BE AT THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY TO MAKE SURE THERE'S ENOUGH SEPARATION. YOU KNOW, WHERE THE GARAGES ARE, WHERE YOUR GOLF COURSE BE AND SOMEBODY TOOK OVER THEIR GARAGES DOING SOMETHING RIGHT THERE. MY PROPERTY IS DIRECTLY BEHIND THAT. IS THERE ANY PLANS AT THIS TIME FOR ANY CONSTRUCTION TO BE GOING ON? DIDN'T NO PLANS. WE GOT LIST OF PROPERTY NOW, I'M NOT SURE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME PROPERTY I DON'T THINK WAS EVER A GOLF COURSE. IT WAS A DRIVING RANGE. I LIVE ON AMIL, MY PROPERTY BACK RIGHT UP. THAT PROPERTY RIGHT THERE BACKED RIGHT UP TO IT. I CHECKED IT ON GOOGLE MAP, IT'S RIGHT THERE, RIGHT BEHIND ME. WENT THROUGH, WENT THROUGH THE PLANNING BOARD AND THEY HAVE ALREADY, UH, SPECIFIED HOW MUCH SETBACK THERE HAS TO BE AND A BURN TO CREATE THE MORE BUFFER THERE IN YOUR ALREADY VERY WEAK YARD. OBJECTION. PRETTY DEEP. YEAH. WHAT, SO WHAT DOES THAT DO FOR MY PROPERTY VALUES? WELL, THAT, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION. UM, THIS WOULD, UH, CHANGE THE USE THAT WOULD BE SPECIFIC TO, UH, MOBILE HOME PARK, UM, TO ALLOW IT FOR, UH, OTHER COMMERCIAL USES. C TWO AS WAS INDICATED IN OUR WORK SESSION EARLIER, UH, IS IS ONE OF THE BROADER ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS, UH, THROUGHOUT TOWN. SO THIS IS USES THAT WOULD BE, UH, COMMERCIAL IN NATURE. SO IT WOULD BRING, UH, BUSINESSES TO, TO THAT AREA. OKAY. WELL IT'S ALL ABOUT NEIGHBORING PROPERTY. ADJACENT PROPERTIES ARE ALREADY C TWO, CORRECT? ALL THE WAY BACK. I HAVE 2.3 DIRECTLY BEHIND ME IS ALL THAT AREA THAT YOU'RE REF REFERENCING. OKAY. UM, I JUST WANNA BE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, I BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY FOR A REASON. ISOLATED WOOD ON THE ONE SIDE, 10 FOOT LI LOCK, 12 FOOT LI LOCKS ON THE OTHER SIDE WITH THE, IN THE BACK OF IT BECAUSE IT WAS ISOLATED WHEN THE MOTHER INDIVIDUAL TOOK OVER THE PROPERTY THAT BEHIND ME DIRECTED FIND WITH GUARD. THE, THE GARAGES ARE ALREADY, I'M HEARING A LOT OF NOISE AND, AND, AND WHATEVER'S GOING ON. AND, AND I DIDN'T NEED TO KNOW THAT IF, IF SOMETHING THAT I DON'T WANT BUILT WHERE I MOVED, WHICH BEEN HERE 20 SOMETHING YEARS, I NEED TO KNOW IF THEY'RE GONNA BE PUTTING SOMETHING UP THERE THAT IS NOT GONNA BE FOR MY LICENSE SECURITY, WHAT SOMETHING'S GOING UP FOR SALE. SO I DON'T, I CAN'T DETERMINE WHO'S GONNA PURCHASE IT. EXACTLY. I'M SAYING. SO YOU'RE TELLING ME THEN IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO COME IN THERE AND THEY WANT BUILD A, UH, A, A 12 STORY BUILDING THERE? NO, NO. OUR OUR ZONING CODE PROHIBITS ANY, UH, ANY BUILDINGS OF THAT SIZE. THERE'S A RESTRICTION. I I'M NOT, I'M NOT MORE AWARE OF IT. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET SOME INFORMATION. YEAH, WHATEVER RESTRICTIONS, WHAT CAN BE PUT THERE. SO [01:45:01] JOSH, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO JUST GIVE A A A BRIEF OVERVIEW? SORRY TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT OF, OF WHAT? C TWO? UH, YES. SO, UH, THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT BEDROOM WENT BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD. UM, I BELIEVE WE HAVE A 60 FOOT BUFFER BETWEEN, UH, YOUR PROPERTY AND THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S SUPPOSED TO GO TO C TWO AND C TWO. YOU CAN ONLY BUILD AS FAR AS 30 FEET. YOU HAVE EITHER VARIANCE YOU WANT GO FURTHER THAN THAT. AND RIGHT NOW, UM, AS THE PPLICANT HAS STATED TO US, THERE IS NO PLAN FOR THIS PROPERTY. THEY LITERALLY JUST WANTED TO GET REZONED IN C TWO JUST SO THEY CAN LIST IT. UM, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF USES IN C TWO THAT YOU CAN DO TO GET REZONED, BUT AS RIGHT NOW THERE IS NO FOR ANYTHING. OKAY, SO THAT'S LIKE 90 FEET TOTAL BETWEEN THE BUFFER AND THEN THE, THE VARIANT THAT DISTRICTS NO, I THINK THE 30 FEET WAS REFERRING TO THE HEIGHT OF THE COMPANY. OH, OKAY. JOSH, THE BERMS AND THOSE REQUIREMENTS, THOSE WILL BE LISTED IN THE GIS MAP. AND WHERE ELSE WOULD THEY BE LISTED TO ENSURE THAT WHEN THE PROPERTY DOES TRANSFER HANDS FROM THE CURRENT OWNER TO WHOEVER PURCHASES THE PROPERTY, THEY'RE VERY AWARE OF THOSE RESTRICTIONS. YOU'LL HAVE TO BE A DEED. OKAY. SO IS THIS GONNA BE LISTED AS A DEED RESTRICTION THEN? OKAY, SO THEN I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE REIN STEPPED OFF TO. UM, THAT WAY THE, IT'LL BE LISTED ON THE DEED RESTRICTION SO THAT SAY FOR SOME UNFORTUNATE REASON THEY DECIDE TO BUILD WITHIN 40 FEET, YOU COULD GO BACK AND SHOW THE, UH, PLANNING BOARD OR THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICE THE DEED AND SAY IT'S ON THE DEED RESTRICTION AND IT'LL GET PULLED WHEN THEY TRY TO DO A, LIKE BUILDING PERMIT, THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO PUT IT WITHIN 40 FEET. THE OFFICE WILL SAY IT HAS TO BE 60 FEET. YOU HAVE A DEED RESTRICTION. OKAY. I JUST WANNA CLARIFY AND MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS GONNA BE LISTED SOMEWHERE BECAUSE YEAH, SORRY ABOUT, AND THAT DEED RESTRICTION WOULD RUN WITH THE LAND BECAUSE IT'S A CONDITION OF THE REZONING. SO IT BE, THE REZONING WOULD ONLY BE GRANTED AROUND THAT CONDITION. RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE. OKAY, THANK YOU. SURE. QUESTION. UM, I HAVE PROPERTY NEAR MS. RICK DAISY IN MY PROPERTY UP THE, UH, HOME PARK. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE'S A UTILITY RIGHT OF WAY THAT RUNS RIGHT ADJACENT TO MY PROPERTY, THE REAR OF THE MOBILE HALL PARK TO AM STILL, WILL THIS BE IMPACTED? WILL THERE BE ANY PLANS TO BE UTILIZED IN THAT RIGHT AWAY OTHER THAN WHAT IT'S NOW I'M UNAWARE OF ANYTHING. HOUSE NOT TO AM STILL IN THE BACK OF THIS PROPERTY. I'M UNAWARE OF ANYTHING LIKE THAT. YEAH. IN ANY, UM, IN, IN ANY USE OF, OF THE LAND, ANY REZONING, THOSE, THOSE RIGHT OF AWAYS WOULD, WOULD REMAIN IN PLACE. THIS, THIS WOULDN'T CHANGE ANY OF THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UH, IN THIS PARTICULAR, UH, REZONING? AGAIN, THIS IS FOR, FOR FOLKS THAT ARE NEW TO THE PROCESS, THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING. THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS TO ASK QUESTIONS JUST LIKE MR. BERG DID. UM, AND IT ALSO IS AN OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO COME BACK TO THE TOWN BOARD OR TO COMMUNICATE DIRECTLY WITH TOWN BOARD MEMBERS WITH ANY OF YOUR CONCERNS. WE'RE NOT TAKING ANY ACTION ON IT TONIGHT. UM, THIS IS THE INFORMATION GATHERING STAGE. SO IF, IF YOUR ANSWERS WEREN'T, UH, IF, IF YOUR QUESTIONS WEREN'T ANSWERED TO YOUR SATISFACTION THIS EVENING, PLEASE FOLLOW UP WITH, WITH US INDIVIDUALLY AS TO BOARD MEMBERS. OUR, OUR EMAILS ARE ON THE UH, TOWN WEBSITE. OKAY. TERRIFIC. ALL RIGHT. IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE ON THIS REZONING, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? AB DUNS. VERY THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE. PROPOSED, UH, HEARING, PUBLIC HEARING PROPOSED LOCAL LAW NUMBER 16TH 2023. PLEASE MAKE NOTICE THAT THERE HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO THE TOWN BOARD ON DECEMBER 11TH, 2023 PURSUANT TO THE MUNICIPAL HOME RULE LAW, A PROPOSED LOCAL LAW TO BE KNOWN AS PROPOSED LOCAL LAW NUMBER 16 20 23 SAID LOCAL LAW PROVIDES FOR THE AMENDMENT OF LOCAL LAW NUMBER 10 19 86 CHAPTER TWO 80 ENTITLED ZONING AND PROVIDES SUBSTANTIALLY AS FOLLOWS, FOR THE ADOPTION OF AN AMENDMENT TO ZONING CODE FOR 6.88 ACRES OF A 13 POINT 12 ACRE PARCEL OF VACANT LAND AT THE INTERSECTION OF HOWARD ROAD AND SOUTHWESTERN BOULEVARD FROM C1 LOCAL RETAIL DISTRICT TO R THREE MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT. THE PROPERTIES IS THAT IDENTIFIED SBL NUMBER 1 7 0 2 DASH FOUR DASH THREE. THEREFORE PURSUANT TO THE STATUTES AND PROVISIONS OF MUNICIPAL HOME RULE LAW, THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG WILL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON JANUARY 22ND, 2024 AT 7:00 PM LOCAL TIME AT WHICH TIME ALL INTERESTED PERSONS MAY BE HEARD. AND I WILL START BY RECOGNIZING MR. HOPKINS, UH, ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. YES, SO GOOD EVENING SUPERVISOR HOGAN, MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD. ALSO WITH ME ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT IS ANDY ROMANOWSKI FROM AR HOLDINGS LLC. YOU PROBABLY RECOGNIZE THE NAME ALLIANCE HOMES AND THEN ON BEHALF OF THE EXISTING PROPERTY OWNER, LONGTIME PROPERTY OWNER IS ALSO MICHELLE ATORY. [01:50:01] I DO WANNA NOTE THAT THE EVENINGS PRESENTATION, WE LOOK FORWARD TO PRESENTING THE PROJECT. WE ARE NOT ASKING THE BOARD TO TAKE ANY ACTION THIS EVENING, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT THE INPUT IS AND THEN RESPOND IN WRITING PRIOR TO A FUTURE MEETING. SO I WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR TO EVERYONE. WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANY TYPE OF DECISION THIS MEETING. WITH THAT BEING SAID, IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE FIRST SLIDE, I WOULD ALSO NOTE THAT I DID PROVIDE EACH OF YOU WITH A COPY OF THIS POWERPOINT PRESENTATION. WE CAN ALSO EMAIL A COPY TO YOU AND IF THERE AREN'T ANY COPY, IF THEY TALK TO BILLBOARD AND WE'LL BE IN THE HALL AFTER, WE CAN PROVIDE THEM WITH A COPY AS WELL. THE PROPERTY ITSELF IS LOCATED AT ZERO SOUTHWESTERN BOULEVARD VACANT LAND. IT CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 13.06 ACRES, IS CURRENTLY SPLIT ZONED UM, IS PARTIALLY ZONED C ONE AND THEN PARTIALLY ZONED R THREE. WHAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER UM, IN CONNECTION WITH THIS PROJECT IS A DOWN ZONING OF THE WESTERNMOST 6.88 ACRES FROM C ONE TO R THREE. THAT WOULD BE TO ACCOMMODATE A MULTI-FAMILY PROJECT SUBJECT TO SIX SEPARATE ZONING CONDITIONS THAT WE WILL PRESENT. NEXT SLIDE. JUST TO ACCLIMATE EVERYONE WITH THE AREA, YOU CAN SEE THE RELEVANT SEGMENT OF SOUTHWESTERN BOULEVARD. IT IS A FAIRLY BIG PARCEL. UM, WE ARE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION AT CARLY'S COURT. HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED, I BELIEVE IS ACTUALLY STILL BEING FINALIZED AS WE SPEAK AND YOU CAN CERTAINLY SEE THAT CLEARLY THE PREDOMINANT ZONING CLASSIFICATION AND PREDOMINANT USE IN THAT AREA IS RESIDENTIAL USES, INCLUDING EXISTING MULTI-FAMILY PROJECTS AS WELL AS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. AND OF COURSE WE'RE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE NURSERY. NEXT SLIDE. AND THAT'S THE ZONING MAP. AND YOU CAN SEE AGAIN THE SPLIT ZONING THAT HALF OF OUR SITE IS CURRENTLY ZONED C ONE AND THE REMAINDER IS ZONED R THREE. AND AGAIN, WE'RE ASKING FOR A DOWN ZONING OF THAT PORCH OF THE SITE THAT'S CURRENTLY ZONED C ONE. NEXT SLIDE. THE COPY OF THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT WE PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING BOARD. THE PLANNING BOARD ULTIMATELY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL BY THIS BOARD. AND I'M GONNA TOUCH ON HIGHLIGHTS OF THIS PROJECT. IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE'RE NOT HERE ASKING FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL AND AS THIS BOARD IS WELL AWARE, IF YOU APPROVE THE REQUESTED DOWN ZONING OF A PORTION OF THE SITE, THERE'S A LOT OF HARD WORK THAT STILL NEEDS TO OCCUR. WE HAVE TO PREPARE FULLY ENGINEERED PLANS GO BACK IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING BOARD. THEY HAVE TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN ULTIMATELY THEY WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE THE SITE PLAN PRIOR TO THE PROJECT COMMENCING. WHAT WE'RE SHOWING HERE IS 60 LUXURY RESIDENTIAL UNITS FOR LEASE. UM, IT'S A MIXTURE OF APARTMENTS AND COUNT HOMES. WE'LL SHOW YOU THE ELEVATIONS IN A SECOND. WE ARE PROPOSING THAT WE WILL PRESERVE THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE SITE, AT LEAST FOUR ACRES OF THAT AS PERMANENT OPEN SPACE. THAT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO A DECLARATION OF RESTRICTIONS. FOLLOWING UP ON COUNCILMAN COVER'S COMMENTS IN THE PREVIOUS PUBLIC HEARING AND OF COURSE WE WOULD PROVIDE A COPY OF THAT DRAFT THROUGH THE TOWN ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL. WE ARE GONNA SHOW SOME INTENSIVE LANDSCAPING ALONG THE BACK OF THE SITE, INCLUDING A SIX FOOT ROLL OF EVERGREEN TREES AND A SIX FOOT FENCE. AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE'D WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH NEIGHBORS TO DISCUSS SCREENING IN FURTHER DETAIL. WE'RE SHOWING A WALKING TRAIL ON SITE THAT WOULD LEAD TO THE PERMANENT OPEN SPACE AND BASED ON SOME INPUT RECEIVED FROM NEARBY ERS. THE ORIGINAL PLAN THAT WE SUBMITTED, WE PRESENTED TO THE RESIDENTS WHEN WE MET WITH THEM IN LATE SEPTEMBER, SHOWED A REDUCED SETBACK SETBACK THAT COMPLIES. WE'VE NOW INCREASED THAT BUILDING SETBACK TO 65 FEET. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THE EXISTING ZONING, THE C ONE ZONING THAT'S IN PLACE WOULD ACTUALLY ALLOW A REAR YARD BUILDING SETBACK OF 40 FEET. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING THAT'S LESS INTENSIVE THAN WOULD OTHERWISE BE PERMIT. NEXT SLIDE. SO THESE ARE PHOTOGRAPHS OF A PROJECT THAT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL THAT MR. ROMANOWSKI AND HIS TEAM BUILT AT 2 75 SHADOW LANE. IT'S KNOWN AS ORCHARD GROVE APARTMENTS. UM, SOME OF THE PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS DID TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT. I THINK IT WAS VERY WELL RECEIVED. WE OF COURSE WOULD EXTEND THAT SAME INVITATION TO YOU. WE'D LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK AT ANY OF THE PROJECTS, MR. ROMAN'S PRO PORTFOLIO. WE'D CERTAINLY WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT AS WELL AS ANY NEARBY RESIDENTS. NEXT SLIDE. THERE'S ADDITIONAL PHOTOS OF THAT BUILDING THAT IS A TWO STORY 12 UNIT BUILDING. LITERALLY EXACTLY WHAT WE PROPOSED. OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE FLEXIBILITY IN TERMS OF THE COLORS, BUT THIS IS THE BUILDING TYPE AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S RESIDENTIAL AND SCALE HAS A RESIDENTIAL STYLE ROOF AND ONLY COMMIT ONLY CONSISTS OF 12 UNITS ELSEWHERE IN THE TOWN OF IN TOWN OF HAMBURG, INCLUDING NEARBY. WE HAVE MUCH BIGGER THREE STORY, 26 UNIT, 29 UNIT BUILDINGS. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING ON THIS SITE AND WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITE. NEXT SLIDE. SO THESE ARE SOME OF MR. ROMANOWSKI EXISTING PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN [01:55:01] VERY SUCCESSFUL THROUGHOUT COMMUNITIES IN WESTERN NEW YORK. I MENTIONED ORCHARD GROVE, WALNUT GROVE, IT'S IN WILLIAMSVILLE MEDIA VICINITY AT MY HOUSE. UM, A REDEVELOPMENT AT 13 UNITS IN AMHERST, AVALON TOWN HOMES, A REDEVELOPMENT NEAR THE SOUTH CAMPUS ON BAILEY AVENUE 39 80, WHICH IS AN OLD PIZZA HUT THAT WAS KNOCKED DOWN VACANT LAND 16 UNITS. AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT 100% OF THE UNITS IN MR. ROMANOWSKI PORTFOLIO ARE LEASED WITH WAITING LISTS. EVERYONE MAY ASK WHY. WHY IS THERE STILL SUCH A STRONG DEMAND FOR MULTIFAMILY HOUSING, NOT ONLY IN THE TOWN OF ORCHARD PARK, BUT REALLY EVERY COMMUNITY IN WESTERN NEWARK AND THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND THE NATION. AND THERE'S SEVERAL REASONS. NUMBER ONE, WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH CONSTRUCTION COSTS. NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE UNFORTUNATELY JUST OUTSIDE THE REACH OF A TYPICAL YOUNG FAMILY. HOPEFULLY THAT WILL CHANGE WITH TIME, BUT IT HASN'T SO FAR. AND THEN SECONDLY, IT'S A SUPPLY ISSUE. IN WESTERN NEW YORK, WE DO NOT HAVE A LOT OF SUPPLY OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, EITHER EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES FOR SALE OR NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. IN FACT, THERE WAS AN ARTICLE IN THE WALL STREET JOURNAL LATE LAST YEAR THAT SET OUT OF THE 50 BIGGEST HOUSING MARKETS IN THE UNITED STATES, THE ERIE COUNTY WAS LAST IN TERMS OF THE PERCENTAGE OF NEW RESIDENTIAL HOMES FOR SALE. IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT YOU SEE A LOT OF DEMAND FOR THIS BECAUSE FOR THE FIRST TIME WHEN THE 2020 CENSUS WAS CONDUCTED, THE LARGEST HOUSEHOLD SIZE IN THE UNITED STATES, IF YOU LOOK AT ACROSS ONE PERSON, TWO PERSON, THREE PERSON, FOUR PERSON IS ONE. SO THERE ARE LITERALLY MORE ONE PERSON HOUSEHOLDS IN THE UNITED STATES THAN ANY OTHER SIZE. THE TARGET MARKET FOR THESE TYPES OF UNITS IS PRETTY DIVERSE. SENIORS THAT LIVE IN THE TOWN WANNA STAY HERE, NO LONGER WANNA OWN THEIR HOMES, EMPTY NESTERS A LITTLE BIT YOUNGER, THEY STILL WANT TO BE HERE. YOUNG PROFESSIONALS AND THEN OF COURSE, UM, INDIVIDUALS THAT REALLY JUST NEED HOUSING AND WANNA LEASE THE UNIT UNTIL THAT OPPORTUNITY ARISES THAT THEY CAN PURCHASE A UNIT. HOPEFULLY THEY CAN SAVE SOME MONEY TO . SO WE ARE COMFORTABLE AND VERY CONFIDENT THAT THERE WILL BE AMPLE AND STRONG DEMAND FOR THIS PRICE. NEXT SLIDE. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED WITH THE NEIGHBORS WHEN WE MET WITH THEM IS THE FACT THAT THE EXISTING 6.88 ACRES IS ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL. AND AS PART OF THE PLANNING BOARD REVIEW PROCESS, WE PROVIDED THEM WITH A CONCEPT PLAN THAT DEPICTED WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. AND AGAIN, KEEP IN MIND THE LIBERATORY PROPERTY THAT THE LIBERATORY FAMILY HAS OWNED THIS PROPERTY FOR NEARLY THREE DECADES. AND WHILE THEY WOULD PREFER TO DO THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE PROPOSING, IF THAT DOES NOT WORK OUT, THEY DO INTEND TO PROCEED WITH COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. SO WHAT THE ASSET RIGHT PLAN, WHICH WOULD NOT ACTUALLY COME IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD WOULD DEPICT IS TWO RETAIL BUILDINGS APPROXIMATELY 16,200 SQUARE FEET WITH TWO DRIVE TO RESTAURANTS, THAT REAR YARD SETBACK COULD BE REDUCED ALL THE WAY TO 40 FEET. WE THINK THIS PROJECT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD PERSPECTIVE, FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE TOWN, IT'S CLEARLY NOT AS COMPATIBLE THE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. AND AS SUCH, THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING SOMETHING THAT'S SOMEWHAT RARE, AN ACTUAL DOWN ZONING OF THE LAND. WE'RE NOT ASKING TO ALLOW SOMETHING MORE INTENSIVE, WE'RE ASKING FOR REZONING TO ALLOW SOMETHING LESS INTENSIVE. NEXT SLIDE. WE HAVE BEEN AT THIS PROJECT A LONG TIME. UM, WE BEGAN THE PROCESS PRESENTING TO THE PLANNING BOARD ON MAY 17TH OF THIS YEAR. IT ALSO WENT TO THE CODE REVIEW COMMITTEE DURING ITS MEETING ON JULY 18TH. UH, THE TOWN BOARD ULTIMATELY REFERRED IT TO THE PLANNING BOARD. I MENTIONED THE FACT THAT WE DID HOLD AN INFORMATIONAL MEETING WITH NEIGHBORS ON SEPTEMBER 25TH. WE PROVIDED THOSE INTERESTED PROPERTY OWNERS AND I'M SURE THERE MAY BE MORE DECEIVING WITH PROJECT UPDATE LETTERS. AND THEN FINALLY, MOST IMPORTANTLY, DURING ITS MEETING ON NOVEMBER 1ST, THE PLANNING BOARD DID ADOPT A RESOLUTION. RECOMMENDED THAT THIS BOARD APPROVED THE DOWN ZONING OF THE PROJECT SITE AND ALSO ISSUE A NEGATIVE DECLARATION PURSUANT TO THE STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT. THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE SUBJECT TO SIX PROPOSED ZONING CONDITIONS THAT WE PRESENTED. NEXT SLIDE. COMMUNITY OUTREACH IS ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO MR. ROMANOWSKI AND CONNECTION WITH HIS PROJECTS THAT SUMMARIZES IT. I WOULD NOTE THAT WE MADE SOME WHAT WE BELIEVE SUBSTANTIAL MODIFICATIONS BASED ON INPUT WE RECEIVED DURING THAT INFORMATIONAL MEETING HELD ON SEPTEMBER 25TH OF LAST YEAR, WE INCREASED THE REAR YARD BUILDING SETBACK TO 65 FEET. WE ADDED SOME ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING AND ENHANCED SCREENING. WE'VE COMMITTED AGAIN TO PRESERVE AT LEAST FOUR ACRES OF THE SITE AS PERMANENT OPEN SPACE TO REMAIN PERMANENTLY UNDEVELOPED. AND THEN ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP WAS, WHERE WOULD DUMPSTERS BE LOCATED? AND WE'VE COMMITTED THEY WOULD BE AT LEAST A HUNDRED FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE FULLY SCREENED AND ENCLOSED. NEXT SLIDE. I THINK I ALREADY GOT ALL THE POINTS RELATIVE TO THE PLANNING BOARD. AGAIN, WE [02:00:01] DO WANNA APPRECIATE OR EXPRESS OUR APPRECIATION FOR THOSE MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING BOARD THAT TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO TOUR THE ORCHARD GROVE APARTMENT PROJECT IN THE TOWN OF ORCHARD PARK. AND WE THINK THAT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE FOR ANYONE ELSE'S INTERESTED. NEXT SLIDE. SO ONE OF THE ASPECTS OF THIS PROJECT YOU NEED TO CONSIDER IN CONNECTION WITH THE REZONING IS THE STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUARTER REVIEW ACT. AND YOUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT STAFF, INCLUDING JOSH AND NELLY, HELP YOU WITH THIS. WE DID PREPARE A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY THAT WAS DONE ON A VOLUNTARY BASIS. DID DEMONSTRATE THE PROFESSIONAL OPINION OF OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER AMY DAKO PASSERO ASSOCIATES. THE PROJECT WILL NOT RESULT IN ANY REDUCTION OF THE LEVEL OF SERVICE. DOT DID PROVIDE AN EMAIL TO JOSH ROGERS INDICATING THEY WILL NOT ALLOW DEDICATED DRIVEWAY FROM THE SOUTHWESTERN BOULEVARD. WE'RE NOT SHOWING ON OUR PLAN. ALL OF OUR TRAFFIC WILL HAVE DIRECT ACCESS THE SIGNALED INTERSECTION OF HOWARD AND SOUTHWESTERN. AND SO WHILE WE'LL GENERATE SOME TRAFFIC THAT'S NOT THERE TODAY, I GUESS THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT, THIS IS SUMMARIZED IN OUR TRAFFIC STUDY, IT IS LITERALLY ONE EIGHTH OF THE TRAFFIC THAT WOULD BE GENERATED IF THIS PROJECT WOULD DEVELOP IN ACCORDANCE TO THE EXISTING C ONE ZONING. SO WE THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING. NEXT SLIDE. I THINK ALL OF THESE POINTS ARE RATHER STRAIGHTFORWARD. AGAIN, PLANNING BOARD DID RECOMMEND ISSUANCE OF A NEGATIVE DECLARATION. AND WE THINK IF YOU COMPARE THE EXISTING ZONING THAT'S THERE TODAY, C ONE OUR PROJECT AND THE SIX CONDITIONS, THAT IT'S QUITE CLEAR THAT THIS PROJECT WILL NOT RESULT IN ANY POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS. WHICH MEANS ULTIMATELY WHEN YOU'RE IN A POSITION TO ISSUE A DECISION, WE DO THINK ISSUING A NEGATIVE DECLARATION IS BOTH APPROPRIATE AND JUSTIFIED. AND THEN FINALLY, I WANT TO GO VERY BRIEFLY THROUGH THE SIX ZONING CONDITIONS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING. AND AGAIN, EACH OF THESE ZONING CONDITIONS WOULD BE SUBJECT TO A DECLARATION OF RESTRICTIONS BE RECORDED AT THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE. WE OF COURSE WOULD PROVIDE THE TOWN ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AS WE ALWAYS DO, WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW AND APPROVE THE CONTENT OF THAT DOCUMENT PRIOR TO BE RECORDED AT THE YOUR COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE. SO THE CONDITIONS ARE AS FOLLOWS, AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE PLAINTIFF COURT. THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF ANY BUILDINGS ON THE SITE SHALL BE TWO FLOORS. R THREE ZONING ACTUALLY ALLOWS TALLER THAN TWO STORIES SUBJECT TO A 75 FOOT SETBACK. WE WOULD LIMIT EVERYTHING TO TWO STORIES. PROPERTY LINE SCREENING, WE WOULD AGREE RIGHT NOW THAT THERE'D BE A SIX FOOT TALL WOODEN FENCE ALONG THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY LINE TO DROP THE FOUR FEET TALL AS WE GET CLOSER TO HOWARD ROAD FOR SIGHT LINES AND ALSO PROVIDING LANDSCAPING CONDITION. NUMBER THREE, DUMPSTERS. WE WOULD AGREE THAT NO DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE WOULD BE LOCATED WITHIN A HUNDRED FEET. THE REAR PROPERTY LINE AND THE DUMPSTERS SHALL BE ENCLOSED BY A SIX FOOT FENCE CONDITION. NUMBER FOUR, MINIMUM SETBACK. WE WOULD AGREE DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE EXISTING C ONE ZONING WOULD ALLOW A BUILDING WITH A SETBACK OF ONLY 40 FEET AND THE PROPOSED R THREE ZONING REQUIRES A SETBACK OF 50 OR 55 FEET. WE WOULD AGREE THAT ANY BUILDING TWO STORIES IN HEIGHT ONLY ON THE SITE WOULD HAVE A MINIMUM SETBACK OF 65 FEET FROM THE REAR PROPERTY LINE. CONDITION NUMBER FIVE DENSITY. KEEPING IN MIND THAT WE HAVE 13 ACRES HERE AND OUR PROPOSED DENSITY IS LITERALLY LESS THAN FIVE UNITS ACRE, I THINK IT WOULD BE THE LOWEST DENSITY MULTI-FAMILY PROJECT IN TOWN OF HAMBURG, WE WOULD AGREE THAT THERE WOULD BE A MAXIMUM OF 60 UNITS ACROSS THIS ENTIRE 13.06 ACRES. AND THEN FINALLY, WE WOULD AGREE THAT A MINIMUM OF FOUR ACRES OF THE PROJECT SITE WOULD CONSIST OF PERMANENT OPEN SPACE AND WITHIN THAT PERMANENT OPEN SPACE, THERE COULD BE NO BUILDINGS ACCESS, HOUSE PARKING SPACES, DRIVEWAYS, ACCESSORY STRUCTURES, ET CETERA. IT WOULD LITERALLY BE UTILIZED FOR GREEN SPACE. SO THAT SUMMARIZES OUR PRESENTATION. I DO WANNA KNOW, I THINK WE PROVIDED PRETTY EXTENSIVE DOCUMENTATION TO YOU INCLUDING THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION. UH, MR. ROMANOWSKI PREPARED A VERY DETAILED LETTER IN LATE DECEMBER, WHICH WE SUBMITTED TO THE TOWN BOARD. YOU ALSO HAVE A COPY OF THAT. AND WE DID PROVIDE YOU WITH A COPY OF OUR MOST RECENT PROJECT UPDATE LETTER TO THE RESIDENTS DATED JULY JUNE OR DATED JANUARY 12TH. SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PRESENTATION OR THE MERITS OF THE REZONING, WE OF COURSE WOULD WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THEM. OR IF THE BOARD PREFERS THAT WE ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THAT IT MAY COME UP DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE WOULD PROVIDE THAT, BUT PROVIDE THAT OPPORTUNITY AS WELL. AND AGAIN, BASED ON WHAT WE HEAR THIS EVENING, I THINK THE BEST APPROACH IS NOT ASKING FOR A DECISION. AND I THINK THE PROJECT TEAM AGREES THAT WE CAN RESPOND IN WRITING ANY COMMENTS YOU HAVE. SO YES. THANK YOU SIR. ANY QUESTIONS? I I WAS JUST WONDERING, I MEAN THE, THE, THE, THE NAME THAT THE STREET, EXCUSE ME, THE FIRST STREET ON, ON THE RIGHT, BUT AREN'T THOSE ALLOWING CARLEY CARLEY'S, PORT CARLEY'S? YES. UM, WHY? BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T [02:05:01] OWN THE PROPERTY. THAT'S WHY IT WASN'T ALL DEVELOPED IN ONE PLAN. YEAH. SO CAN WE GO BACK TO THE ARROW PHOTOGRAPH? IS THAT, IS THAT THE REASON BECAUSE YEAH, IT IS SO RIGHT. SO I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY YOU WOULDN'T, BECAUSE NOW YOU GOTTA CUT INTO HOWARD ROAD. YES SIR. THERE. SO THIS IS THE PROPERTY THAT'S BEEN OWNED BY LABORATORY FAMILY FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS. THE PROPERTY IN THE BACK, UM, WAS DEVELOPED BY DAVE BURKE OF DTO DEVELOPMENT. MM-HMM . AND I BELIEVE THAT SUBDIVISION WAS APPROVED APPROXIMATELY A DECADE AGO. I THINK THERE'S HOMES STILL BEING CONSTRUCTED THERE NOW. UM, WITH THE FENCE AND THE, THE HOW, BASICALLY, HOW WIDE WOULD THAT BE? I MEAN IS THERE BIG ENOUGH? I MEAN, 'CAUSE I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT GO IN THERE, SEE IF THEY'RE GONNA BE, WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO GO IN THERE, TURN AROUND, YOU KNOW, FOR EMERGENCY SITUATIONS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. UH, OBVIOUSLY SNOW REMOVAL AND TODAY'S DAY AND AGE AND SURE. SO CAN YOU FULL GO FORWARD A COUPLE FOR THE CONCEPT PLAN? SO HERE'S THE CONCEPT PLAN. THAT PERMANENT OPEN SPACE OF 65 FEET IS IN THE REAR. AND THEN THE LAYOUT HAS BEEN DESIGNED SUCH THAT IT COULD ACCOMMODATE EMERGENCY ACCESS VEHICLES. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT EVERYTHING ON SITE WOULD BE PRIVATE. SO SNOW PLOWING WATER, RIGHT? YEAH, SEWER OR THE TOWN WOULD NOT HAVE ANY RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY OF THAT WHATSOEVER. JOSH, HOW MUCH OF THAT? UM, 4.3 ACRES I'M SURE YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF DEALING WITH IT FOR SO LONG, IS THE FEDERAL WETLANDS. 'CAUSE A GOOD CHUNK OF THAT IS FEDERAL WETLANDS, ISN'T IT? SO A PORTION YEAH, THE RIGHT, THEY'RE RIGHT THERE AT THAT BACK END . YEAH. 2.06. 2.06 ACRES OF JURISDICTIONAL FEDERAL WETLANDS ON THE SITE. WHICH MEANS IT CAN'T BE BUILT ON, RIGHT? LIKE THERE'S SIGNIFICANT WELL THERE'S SIGNIFICANT RESTRICTIONS TO TRYING TO BUILD ON AN A WITHOUT A, WITHOUT A PERMIT. RIGHT. AND THEN WHEN YOUR SNOW REMOVAL PLAN, WHAT IS THAT GOING TO LOOK LIKE? 'CAUSE I NOTICED THERE'S A STORM WATER POND THAT YOU HAVE THERE, BUT IT'S BUMPING RIGHT UP AGAINST YOUR FEDERAL WETLANDS. SO I'M SURE YOU'VE PROBABLY DEVELOPED A RIGHT. SO THE FEDERAL WETLANDS ARE ACTUALLY ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE, WHICH IS HERE. RIGHT. BUT IF YOU WE'RE NOT PROPOSING, IF YOU PUSH THE SNOW, YOU'RE GONNA I THINK YEAH, GO AHEAD. WE'LL HAVE PLENTY SPACE TO DESIGN AN AREA FRONT OF THE DETENTION POND, BUT NOT ENCROACHING ON THE WETLAND TO, TO STACK SNOW IN A FAKE SNOW CONDITIONALLY WE JUST HAD RECENTLY. SO YOU'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT LIKE THE SALT AND SNOW LEACHING INTO THE WETLAND? NO, BECAUSE REMEMBER WE DO HAVE TO HAVE AN APPROVED SLIP ON FILE, MEANING, RIGHT. WE HAVE TO HAVE STORM WATER QUALITY MECHANISMS TO ENSURE THAT THAT WATER BEFORE IT GOES INTO OUR ONSITE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AND IT'S CONVEYED OFFSITE IS CLEAN. RIGHT. AND NO HAS ANYBODY FROM THE TRAFFIC SAFETY BOARD LOOKED THROUGH AND, AND OKAY THE, YOU KNOW, CUTTING INTO HOWARD, HOW FAR FROM SOUTHWESTERN, YOU KNOW, HOW FAR DOWN IN BETWEEN THE TWO STREETS, HOW, HOW I HAVE TO DEFER TO THE DEPARTMENT IN TERMS OF WHETHER OR NOT THEY'VE LOOKED AT THE PROJECT TRAFFIC SAFETY HAS RECEIVED THE REPORTS, THE TRAFFIC SAFETY HAS REVIEWED THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY PREPARED BY, SO I STOP AND AGAIN, IT REFLECTS INPUT AND RECEIVED FROM THE NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. YES. GOOD EVENING. HI. UM, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU ESTIMATE THE RENTS TO BE? ANDY, BOB, WHAT WOULD YOU I KNOW IT'S A PROJECTION, BUT WE'LL DO, THERE'S SEVERAL UNIT TYPES AND THE RENTS WOULD RANGE PROBABLY FROM 1600 TO, UH, ABOUT $2,300 A MONTH. AND THOSE 2300 WOULD BE THE TOWNHOMES ON THE ENDS OF THE BUILDINGS WITH ATTACHED WORKS. BETTER LIGHT. MORE LIGHT? YES. I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, THEN WE CAN OPEN THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING TO RESIDENTS. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY THAT HAS, HAS SIGNED THE SHEET TO SPEAK YOU BEFORE WE GO, BUT NO ONE REALLY SIGNED IT. HOW MANY? WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL WE'LL START WITH THE SHEET AND THEN I'D BE HAPPY TO CALL ON FOLKS. HOW MANY TOWN HOMES VERSUS HOW MANY RENTAL PROPERTIES? BECAUSE THERE'S DIFFERENT, I BELIEVE BUILDING RESTRICTIONS IF THEY'RE RENTALS AND IF THEY'RE TOWN HOMES. SO THEY'RE ALL UNIT, THEY'RE ALL LEASE. OKAY. SO EACH BUILDING OR 12 UNIT BUILDINGS, THE ENDS OF THE UNITS ARE WHAT WE CALL 'EM, TOWN HOMES. HAMBURG HAS A UNIQUE DEFINITION OF TOWN HOMES, BUT WE'RE REALLY USING THE DEFINITION IN TERMS OF THE BUILDING TYPE AND ATTACHED GARAGE AND A TWO STORY. SO ARE WE BUILDING TO THE SPECIFICATIONS OR THE MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR RENTAL UNITS? OR ARE WE BUILDING TO THE MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR OWNER OCCUPIED UNITS? WE'RE BUILDING TO THE STAND STANDARDS FOR UNITS FOR LEASE, MEANING WE'RE NOT PROPOSING THESE TO BE CONDOMINIUMS FOR STANDARD. OKAY. WILL THEY HAVE BASEMENTS? NO, NO, NO BASEMENTS. SO THE, UH, THE NAMES HERE ARE FOR THE PREVIOUS PUBLIC HEARING, SO WE'LL OPEN IT UP. I'LL START WITH THE FIRST HAND THAT I SAW . THAT'S FINE. AND I WAS NEVER APPROACHED BY ANYBODY ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT. AND I'VE SPOKEN TO MULTIPLE NEIGHBORS AFTER I RECEIVED THE NOTICE IN THE MAIL. NO ONE KNEW ABOUT IT EITHER. [02:10:01] AND THE TRAFFIC FROM 2019 TILL NOW WHEN THEY DID THIS STUDY, HAS BEEN HORRENDOUS. GETTING IN AND OUTTA SOUTHWESTERN BOULEVARD AND EVEN HOWARD ROAD IS A NIGHTMARE. AND THERE'S, I CAN'T BELIEVE THERE'S NOT MORE ACCESS THAN THERE ARE, UNLESS I'M NOT AWARE OF 'EM. IS VERY DANGEROUS. EVEN GOING ALL THE WAY UP DOWN TO AM AMAZON, IT'S LIKE IN NIAGARA FALLS BOULEVARD. IT'S VERY DANGEROUS IN HIGH TRAFFIC. SECONDLY, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP WILD LAND BECAUSE THAT'S THE REASON WHY I MOVED INTO THE AREA BECAUSE I WAS TOLD THERE'D BE NO DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA AND IT WOULD BE A NICE PEACEFUL AREA. WE HAD A SCHOOL BEHIND US, IT WAS GREAT. CARLEY'S COURTS MADE A LOT OF NOISE AND NOT THEIR FAULT. BUT NOW ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF NOISE GOING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S NO LONGER REALLY PEACEFUL AND IT'S DESTROYED A CLOUD OF LIFE. ALL THIS UPBUILDING OF THESE, I'M SORRY, THESE PICTURES LOOK BEAUTIFUL, BUT YOU DRIVE, WE SOUTH PARK ALL THE WAY DOWN TO AMAL. THESE APARTMENT BUILDINGS ARE UGLY AND UNSIGHTLY. IT'S NOT THE CHARACTER OF HAMBURG. IT'S, IT'S TERRIBLE, IT'S DISGUSTING. AND I NO LONGER HAPPY TO LIVING IN HAMBURG. AS MANY PEOPLE ARE NOT. WE'RE STUCK HERE AND YOU'VE GIVEN US HIGHER TAXES. AS A RESULT, WE'RE PAYING HIGHER TAXES IN NORTHSHORE PARK. I I, I'M OPPOSING ALL THIS DEVELOPMENT AND WE'RE, WHERE ARE YOU CALL THE WILDLIFE. YOU GONNA START POISONING 'EM AND KILLING THEM LIKE WEST SENECA IS BECAUSE THEY'RE IN YOUR WAY. WE WOULD LIKE HAVING THE DEER AND THE FOX COME AROUND AND THEY CONTROL THE FOX, CONTROL THE RATS. THERE'S WHOLE RATS AND YOU'RE GONNA PESTICIDE MORE POISONS IN THEIR WATER, IN THEIR LAND. I MEAN, THAT'S RIDICULOUS. JUST LEAVE. IF YOU CAN'T, YOU KNOW, BUILD UP AND REPAIR AN OLD BUILDING, AN EXISTING BUILDING AND STOP DEVELOPMENT, IT'S TOO MUCH. YOU'RE TAKING AWAY THE CHARACTER HAMMER AND DESTROYING IT. UM, I, I'M LAURA GRIFFIN. THAT'S NOT UP THERE ANYMORE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER, BUT I DID SEND A LENGTHY EMAIL TO YOU ALL WITH PICTURES, UH, DIAGRAMS AND WHATNOT. APOLOGIZE TO NOT GET A CHANCE TO PRINT EVERYTHING TO SHOW YOU, BUT MY HOUSE IS ONE RESIDENTIAL LOT AWAY FROM THIS VACANT PROPERTY. IT'S 38 12 HOWARD ROAD. UM, MOST, THERE'S ONLY THREE LOTS LEFT THAT ARE NOT DEVELOPED IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, ALONG PAR, LISA AND HOWARD. ONE IS DIRECTLY NEXT TO MINE, WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE LABORATORY OWNED PROPERTY. UM, MY BIGGEST CONCERNS ARE THE HOWARD ROAD ENTRANCE. UM, I PERSONALLY, THE KIDS GET DROPPED OFF AT THE SCHOOL BUS RIGHT THERE EVERY DAY. I HAVE PICTURES OF IT. THEY STOP RIGHT WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING TO PUT THIS DRIVEWAY. UM, AND THEY LET THE KIDS OUT. SO ONGOING TRAFFIC ON BOTH SIDES ALREADY HAS TO STOP AS IT IS. IT IS A VERY TRAFFIC HEAVY AREA. I ACTUALLY, THERE WAS AN ACCIDENT RIGHT BEHIND ME THE ONE DAY GOING HOME. I GOT OUT OF THE CAR TO GO HELP THE YOUNG KID THAT HE GOT IN AN ACCIDENT, RIGHT AT THAT LIGHT. LIKE IT WAS ACTUALLY VERY UPSETTING. UM, THERE WAS AN AMBULANCE THERE ABOUT A MONTH AGO RIGHT IN FRONT OF THAT AREA. THERE'S CONSTANTLY SOMETHING GOING ON WHEN IT COMES TO THE TRAFFIC. THINGS LIKE THAT. OBVIOUSLY WE SAW, KNEW THAT WHEN WE BUILT THERE. BUT MY GRANDMA LIVES FOUR MINUTES DOWN THE STREET OFF OF CAMP. I LOVE HAMBURG. I LOVE THE AREA. THIS HAS PUT A VERY SOUR TASTE IN MY MOUTH SINCE WE CLOSED IN OCTOBER. THIS IS ALL I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH AND HEARING AND LETTERS IN MY MAILBOX, UM, FROM THE SNOW REMOVAL. WE JUST LOST OUR MAILBOX THIS PAST WEEK, WHICH I GET IT A LOT OF SNOW. YOU GUYS CAN'T SMOKE THAT. BUT YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN THE SNOW THERE WHEN WITH A BIG STORM LIKE WE JUST HAD, IT CAN'T BE MAINTAINED AS IT IS, YOU KNOW, WITH SUCH CONGESTED AREA. UM, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE ALLIANCE HUSBAND, I TALKED TO 'EM PERSONALLY, WENT TO THEIR MEETING. THEY HAVE BEEN VERY GOOD TO WORK WITH. UM, IN REGARDS TO, YOU KNOW, THE BUFFERS, FENCING, DUMPSTERS, SOME OF THAT CAN ALL BE SAID. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT ACTUALLY BE PUT AS YOU KNOW, WRITTEN RESTRICTIONS WITHIN WHATEVER. I DON'T KNOW THE LEGALITY OF THAT, BUT ALSO, I GUESS I WANNA BRING UP THEY'VE OWNED IT FOR THREE DECADES. WHY NOW? QUITE FRANKLY, AFTER EVERYTHING'S BEEN DEVELOPED, ALL THESE HOUSES HAVE BEEN CLOSED ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO PROPERTY VALUES, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO THAT AREA? YOU KNOW, WE WERE TOLD SURE THAT PROPERTY IS OWNED BY SOMEBODY, BUT IT'S BEEN THREE DECADES. HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING WITH IT. THEY ALSO, FROM MY KNOWLEDGE, OWN A VERY BIG EYESORE BUILDING ON MCKINLEY PARKWAY THAT IS GRAFFITI AND FLATS AND WINDOW. THEY SHATTERING AND IT'S, THAT IS WHAT THEY SHOULD DO. SOMETHING THAT'S, UM, THOSE PROPERTIES, LIKE THEY OWN A LOT OF 'EM. THEY LET 'EM SIT AND LOOK AWFUL, BUT THEY'RE CHOOSING ONE THAT'S WOODEN. IT LOOKS FINE ABOUT EVERY NIGHT. LATELY WE HAVE LIKE SIX TO EIGHT DEER IN OUR BACKYARD. WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THAT? MM-HMM . SO SAFETY, YOU KNOW, THEY EVERYBODY IN THAT AREA. TRAFFIC, WILDLIFE AND FEDERAL WETLANDS. THERE'S ALSO FEDERAL WETLANDS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE WERE TOLD HOUSES CANNOT BE BUILT ON, WHICH I THINK PART OF THAT GOES INTO [02:15:01] THEIR PROPERTY. SO I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHERE THAT'S AT. IT'S NOT JUST ON THE FAR SIDE OF THAT PROPERTY. UM, A LOT OF POINTS THAT SURE THEY LOOK BEAUTIFUL THERE. WASN LIKE ONE WENT SAW IT. IT'S A MUCH DIFFERENT PROPERTY. IT'S MUCH LARGER. IT, IT'S GONNA LOOK A LOT DIFFERENT IN MY OPINION. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. MEMBERS OF TOWN BOARD? UH, I LIVE ON BUCKINGHAM LANE. UM, 4 5 5 9 BUCKINGHAM LANE. AND UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADDRESS THE, SORRY, WHAT WAS YOUR NAME, SIR? RICHARD PALEY. UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO JUMP TO THE FACT THAT ZONING IS ESTABLISHED IN A TOWN TO SET A CHARACTER FOR AN AREA. UM, IT'S ESTABLISHED FOR RIGHT NOW, IT'S ZONED COMMERCIAL. YOU COULD OPEN A DRESS SHOP, YOU COULD OPEN A HAIR SALON, YOU COULD OPEN A RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE THROUGH. THERE'S MANY DIFFERENT THINGS YOU COULD DO THERE. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE TOWN IS AT THIS POINT JUST SET ON THEIR, IN, IN THEIR MINDS THAT THIS AREA OF HAMBURG IS GOING TO BECOME APARTMENT CITY. MORE AND MORE APARTMENTS. LET'S BUILD MORE APARTMENTS. THEY'RE BUILDING MORE OVER WHERE, UM, WHERE THE, ACROSS FROM THE, UH, NURSING HOME, UH, THEY BUILT MORE RIGHT IN FRONT OF HILBERT. UM, THEY'RE GONNA BUILD, UH, MORE RIGHT BEHIND THE SENIOR CENTER. YOU KNOW, ZONING WAS SET UP FOR A REASON AND THE REASON WAS TO CREATE A CHARACTER FOR A COMMUNITY. IF WE KEEP BUILDING MORE AND MORE APARTMENTS, THERE IS NO MORE CHARACTER, THERE IS NO MORE COMMUNITY. WHEN THE APARTMENTS WERE APPROVED, UM, BEHIND THE SENIOR CENTER, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP WAS FROM THE, UH, FIRE COMMITTEE OR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT STATING THAT THE PEOPLE WHO MOVE INTO THESE APARTMENTS, THEY DON'T JOIN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THEY DON'T, AT THIS POINT, BIGTREE DOESN'T EVEN HAVE ENOUGH FIREFIGHTERS TO MANAGE WHAT THEY HAVE, LET ALONE MORE BUILDINGS IN. UM, AND AS I KNOW NOW, BIGTREE IS ALSO HANDLING BLAZEDALE BECAUSE BLAZEDALE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FIREFIGHTERS IN THEIR COMMUNITY. SO I THINK, I THINK THAT THE TOWN NEEDS TO JUST TAKE A STEP BACK AND LOOK AT THE ZONING AND LOOK AT THE OVERALL COMMUNITY, NOT JUST WHAT THE DEVELOPERS WANT. AS, AS IT WAS STATED BEFORE, THE LIBERATOR FAMILY HAS OWNED THIS PROPERTY FOR 30 YEARS AND HASN'T DONE ANYTHING WITH IT IN 30 YEARS. SO THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO DUMP THE PROPERTY ONTO A DEVELOPER WHO'S GONNA BUILD APARTMENTS. IF YOU GO TO THE OTHER SIDE OF CAMP IN SOUTHWESTERN, THERE IS, AS FAR AS I KNOW, IT'S LIKE 62 ACRES OF LAND THAT'S CURRENTLY ZONED FOR A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. PLENTY OF LAND THERE FOR MORE APARTMENTS. SO IF THEY WANT TO BUILD APARTMENTS, THERE'S 62 ACRES. GO ASK TO BUY SOME OF THAT. STOP REZONING THE LAND IN THE TOWN. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. WHO ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? YES SIR. MY NAME'S WILLIAM CU. I LIVE RIGHT AT THE CORNER OF BUCKINGHAM AND SOUTHWESTERN AND THIS LETTER DATED JANUARY 12TH WAS THE FIRST NOTICE THAT I'VE GOTTEN ABOUT ANYTHING BEING DONE AT THAT PROPERTY. SO WHAT, WHO, WHAT PROPERTY OWNERS DID THEY SEND NOTICES OUT TO? PARDON? SO IS ANYBODY FROM OUR OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT AVAIL ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION? I KNOW THAT WE HAVE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS AS FAR AS HOW AND WHEN WE NOTIFY PEOPLE. THAT'S RIGHT. IN MY BACK. YEP. MY BACKYARD. I BELIEVE HE'S JUST REFERRING TO THE APPLICANT, NOTIFYING RESIDENTS. OH, OKAY. HE GOT RUPER, HE GOT ONLY A TOWN LETTER. ANYTHING FROM LINES, WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE TO DO TO NOTIFY IT'S PUBLIC HEARING. YEAH. SO, SO WE HAVE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS ON, ON WHO AND WHEN. WE HAVE TO NOTIFY BY AND, AND I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH, UH, WITH THOSE REGULATIONS. IT'S TOUGH NOW GETTING SOUTHWESTERN FROM BUCKINGHAM WITH THE INCREASE OF THE APARTMENTS THAT WENT UP ACROSS THE STREET, NOW YOU'RE GONNA BE PUTTING MORE IN, EVEN THOUGH THE ENTRANCE IS ON HOWARD, IT'S GONNA MAKE THAT WHOLE AREA MORE CONGESTED FOR PEOPLE TRYING TO GET THAT IN OUT. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR FEEDBACK. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR TONIGHT. WHO ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? YES SIR. PUT UP AGAIN, THE PEOPLE [02:20:01] ARE STILL HIRED. THEY COULD, IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HOUSE TO STOP. UH, MY NAME'S . I OWN A PROPERTY ON, UH, 47 57 CHARLIE SQUARE. YEAH, I AGREE WITH THE FACT THAT HOWARD GOES CONGESTED. OKAY. AND THERE'S BEEN ACCIDENTS THERE ALREADY, SO YOU KNOW ABOUT THEM, BUT WHO'S GONNA TAKE CARE OF MAKING THAT INTERSECTION BIGGER? IS THE TOWN GONNA DO IT OR IS THIS COMPANY WHO'S BUILDING IS GONNA PITCH IN TO DO IT? THAT'S MY ONE CONCERN. LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE IN MY BACKYARD, I HAVE A DRAIN BACK THERE. I ALSO HAVE AN EASEMENT 'CAUSE THERE'S A UTILITY POST GOING ALL THE WAY WITH THAT PROPERTY BACK THERE. OKAY. AND I HAVE AN EASEMENT. WILL THEY HAVE AN EASEMENT ON THEIR SIDE ALSO? I BELIEVE SO. WHEN HE SAYS 65 FEET FROM THAT EASEMENT, THE DRAINAGE IS RIGHT THERE. I HAVE ONE DRAIN RIGHT THERE. THAT'S ALL COMING THIS WAY. IT'S NOT GONNA GO TOWARDS SOUTHWESTERN. SECONDLY, I BOUGHT THE HOUSE FROM MILANO AND THEY DID MENTION NOTHING'S BEEN DONE FOR 30 YEARS. OKAY. SO THERE'S ONE PROPERTY THERE, RIGHT THERE ON POWER GROVE THAT, THAT PROPERTY WILL NEVER BE SOLD 'CAUSE IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE EASEMENT. LOOKED POWERED BY THIS. I, YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'RE PUTTING MORE PARTNERS IN THERE. AND LIKE I SAID, I BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY AND I WANTED TO BE SIMPLE AND I DO LIKE THE WILDLIFE AND I DO LIKE THE WOODS BACK THERE. BUT THE, THERE WAS ONE MORE THING. THEY'RE GOING PUT ALL THAT WOODS THOUGH, I BELIEVE IT'S 1, 2, 2 HOUSES AWAY FROM MY HOUSE. THEY, THEY WEREN'T ALLOWED TO BUILD ON THAT PORTION BECAUSE THAT WAS WHAT LANDS RIGHT THERE. NOT, NOT AT THE VERY END. IT WAS RIGHT THERE. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR THAT WETLANDS GOES FROM CARLY COURT THAT WAY. OKAY. SO THAT HAS TO BE LOOKED AT. SECONDLY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU FOR COMING. MR. CLARK, WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO BE HEARD? YES MA'AM. HI, NAME SAMANTHA AND FREDERICK WAS MY NEIGHBOR. SO I HAVE THOSE SAME EASEMENT PROBLEMS, BUT THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO US. SO MY FIRST QUESTION WAS JUST OBVIOUSLY THE TRAFFIC. A LOT OF PEOPLE BESIDES JUST THE CARLY'S COURT RESIDENCE USE, HOW DOES THE CUT THROUGH? AND YOU ALREADY HAVE CAT, THE CHOOSE GROUPS ICE CREAM CORNER, AND THAT'S ALREADY, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO MAKE A LEFT OUT OF THERE. I'VE HEARD THERE'S GONNA BE A LIGHT COMING THERE, BUT THERE'S NOTHING THERE YET. SO THERE'S JUST A LOT OF TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS. AND THEN I KNOW THE BUILDER SAID THEY'RE GOING TO PUT THE SIX FOOT FENCE AND THE TREES, BUT IF THEY'RE TWO STORY BUILDINGS, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT PREVENTS SOMEONE FROM LOOKING IN. I DON'T WANNA BE AFRAID OR FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE TO GO IN MY BACKYARD. SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW REPUBLIC SIX FEE IS GOING TO PROVIDE PRIVACY. AND THEN I WAS ALSO DOING SOME RESEARCH AND I THINK THERE'S A LAW THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE A SIGN STORY REZONING ON PROPERTY AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE UP FOR 30 DAYS. SO I'M NOT SURE IF THERE WAS ONE ON THE PROPERTY, IF ANYONE SAW IT. UM, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S APPROPRIATE TO BE VOTING ON THAT. AND I JUST THINK A LOT OF THE PEOPLE HERE, WE'VE MENTIONED PEOPLE WANT A PLACE TO LIVE, BUT A LOT OF THE PEOPLE ON MY STREET, THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY'RE REALLY HARDWORKING, GOOD PEOPLE, A LOT OF GREAT FAMILIES, AND YOU'RE JUST ALTERING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND IF WE WOULD'VE KNOWN, MAYBE THAT WOULD'VE CHANGED HOW WE FELT ABOUT MOVING HERE. EVERYONE SAID IT IS 30 YEARS AND AS SOON AS THAT LAST HOUSE BOUGHT IS SOLD, NOW IT'S AVAILABLE. SO JUST IF YOU COULD PLEASE THINK OF ALL THE REALLY GREAT PEOPLE HERE, I THINK, UM, YOU WOULD DO 'EM A FAVOR AND PEOPLE WILL BE PROUD TO BE AN A EVENT. THANK YOU. AND I JUST WANNA CLARIFY, THERE'S NO VOTE ON THIS TONIGHT. JUST SO, SO THE TOWN BOARD WILL NOT BE TAKING ANY ACTION ON THIS FRANC UH, MY DAUGHTER JUST BOUGHT A HOUSE ON, NOT IN THAT SAME NEIGHBORHOOD IS IN THE PROCESS OF RENOVATING . THIS COMES AS A SURPRISE TO ME, BUT IT'S NO SURPRISE AT THE FACT THAT THE DEVELOPERS COME IN AND THEY PAINT THIS PRETTY PAINTED PLACE. WE'RE GONNA BUILD HOUSES AND PEOPLE LIVE AND FIX THIS WHOLE LAND. THEY, YOU KNOW, TALKED TO ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEY SAT US HOME STORY. IT'S ALL IN THE, IN THE EYES OF MONEY AND THE DEVELOPMENT, AND ZONING OF ALL THE CHANGES, THE MIND, THE POCKETS OF THESE DEVELOPERS, THE TAKE AWAY OUR GREAT SPACE AND INTERRUPT OUR PEACEFUL NEIGHBORHOODS. IT'S OKAY TO HAVE TREES. WE NEED 'EM TO BREATHE. LIKE I, I CAN'T EVEN AGREE WITH THESE PEOPLE. MORE ABOUT THE DIBEL HAMMER AND RESELLING. THERE'S A REASON WHY PROPERTY IS ZONED AS IT IS. LEAVE IT ALONE. WE QUIT THREATENING US RESIDENTS WITH THAT. WE DON'T PUT HOUSES IN. IT'S GOING TO BE COMMERCIAL, BUT THE INDUSTRY INDUSTRY IS TERRIBLE. [02:25:01] YOU SCARE US INTO THINKING THAT RESIDENTS IS THE WAY TO GO. IT'S NOT ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. AND THERE ARE PLACES TO LIVE. LOT OF ONE, IT NEEDS PEOPLE TO BUY THEIR HOUSES. FIX UP YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS. WILD. YEAH, YOU WANNA LIVE IN HAMBURG BECAUSE IT'S A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO GIVE 'EM A PLACE TO LIVE WITHOUT OWNERSHIP BECAUSE HAMBURG'S NICE BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE US THAT MAKE IT NICE. YOU HAVE TO EARN THE RIGHT INTO IT OWNERSHIP AND BUY WHAT YOU CAN AFFORD AND FIX NEIGHBORHOODS UP IN WESTERN NEW YORK THAT NEED FIXING UP WITH GOOD PEOPLE TO MOVE IN TO AFFORDABLE LIVING AND FIX IT AND MAKE IT NICE. I'M SERIOUS. WE THREE STORIES BECAUSE THREE STORIES MAKES IT MORE FINANCIALLY PLEASING FOR US TO DEVELOP IT. WELL THERE'S A REASON WHY TWO STORIES AND THREE STORIES IS THE ZONING CODE. THERE'S A PURPOSE BEHIND IT. AND THE ASK FOR EXCEPTIONS ALL THE TIME BECAUSE WE NEED MORE MONEY TO MAKE THE BUILDING FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE TO DO IT, THEN DON'T DO IT THEN IT'S NOT FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE. TWO STORIES ISN'T ENOUGH, THEN QUIT ASKING FOR THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE TO TUNE ON UBER ROAD. SO DOING IT ALL OVER THE PLACE, ASKING FOR EXCEPTIONS, ZONING CHANGES AND RULES TO BE CHANGED. STICK TO THE PLAN. I JUST WANNA COUNT, JUST TO BE CLEAR, WE ARE PROPOS TWO, I'M TALKING ABOUT IN GENERAL, OH AND HO BEACH. THEY'RE ASKING FOR MORE STORIES BECAUSE IT'S NOT FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE TO ONLY HAVE TWO THAT DON'T DO WITH THAT OR TAKE LESS MONEY. IT IS TOO MUCH. YES MA'AM. JUST WANNA SAY IN LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY AND I LIVE ON CARLEY'S COURT, UM, HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY LOOK AT THAT SMALL, VERY NARROW PARCEL OF LAND AND THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO BE CONDUCIVE TO HAVING ALL OF THOSE APARTMENTS AND THE DRIVEWAYS AND THE GARAGES AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT? AND I MEAN, WITH THE SNOW REMOVAL EVEN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, LIKE WHERE THEY'RE GONNA PUT ALL THE SNOW AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT YOU KNOW, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS VERY PEACEFUL. WE HAVE A SCHOOL RIGHT THERE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT I WANT OR ANYBODY WANTS, LIKE, I DON'T WANNA CALL 'EM TRANSIENT PEOPLE, BUT WHEN YOU LEASE, YOU'RE NOT LIVING THERE. LIKE, THAT IS NOT YOUR HOME, HOME NECESSARILY. LIKE WE HAVE ALL PUT INTO OUR HOMES LIVING THERE AND MAYBE WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S JUST NOT, PEOPLE DON'T HAVE A SENSE OF PRIDE OF LIVING THERE IF THEY'RE JUST LEASING AN APARTMENT VERSUS WHAT WE HAVE WITH OUR GREEN SPACE DEER AND OUR WILDLIFE AND STUFF LIKE THAT. THAT'S WHY I THINK MOST OF US BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY IN THE FIRST PLACE BECAUSE OF THAT GREEN SPACE. 'CAUSE YOU DON'T GET A LOT OF THAT AROUND HERE UNLESS YOU MOVE OUT OF THE COUNTRY. SO IT WAS A VERY, VERY NICE PLACE FOR US. SO I'M JUST SAYING LIKE THAT NARROW SPACE, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE WHERE THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT PUTTING, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAYBE SEE MORE OF A GRAPHIC OF WHERE ALL OF THESE APARTMENTS ARE GONNA FIT AND WHO REALLY IS GONNA WANNA LIVE IN SOMETHING LIKE, IN THAT TINY LITTLE SPACE. IF THAT'S ALL. I DO BELIEVE MR. ROMANOWSKI INDICATED THAT MR. BURKE WILL BE IN THE FOYER AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, TO SHARE THOSE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE PRESENTED. SO THOSE GRAPHICS WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE. UM, AND, AND WE, WE ARE HERE EXACTLY TO, TO HEAR YOUR CONCERNS AND TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION BEFORE THE BOARD TAKES ACTION. YES MA'AM. THANK YOU. I ALSO LIVE ON . ANOTHER POINT ABOUT THE GREEN SPACE. SO WE BUILT, UM, ON THE, THE THIRD PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT BY MURANO. AND WE ACTUALLY HAD TO EITHER PLANT TREES, UM, BECAUSE THEY MURANO PULLED THOSE TOO MANY TREES AND THEY GOT IN TROUBLE WITH THE PATENT. SO OUR OPTION WAS THEY PAID FOR IT. IF WE DIDN'T WANT IT, WE HAD TO PAY THE TOWN A HAMPER, A FEE WAIVER, UM, FOR THE TREES. SO MY CONCERN IS THAT WE EACH HAD TO PUT TWO TREES AND 20 HOUSES AND THEY'RE GONNA HOLD THOSE ACRES OF LAND. THAT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE TO ME. UM, SO WANNA LOOK INTO THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS MORE. ALSO, ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS BROUGHT UP THE TRAFFIC. AND SO I LIVE RIGHT ON THE POWER AND EVERY DAY THERE IS A BUS THAT IS VERY DIFFICULT. THEY'RE BARELY MAKING THE TURN EVERY DAY. AND I'M JUST CONCERNED HOW ARE THERE MORE BUSES, MORE TRAFFIC GONNA GET IN THERE? SO I THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. AND WE WOULD ALSO LIKE MORE OPEN COMMUNICATION WITH THE BUILDERS. WHEN WE TUNED INTO THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING, WE WERE NOT FOLLOW STRICT OPPOSITION TO COMMERCIAL. SO I DON'T APPRECIATE BEING GENERALIZED AS NEIGHBORS WHEN MANY OF THESE NEIGHBORS HERE HADN'T EVEN COMMUNICATED WITH THE BUILDERS. SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR MORE OPEN COMMUNICATION IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROCESS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE PROJECT? YES, MA'AM. [02:30:02] UM, I'M JUST CURIOUS, HAS ANY OF YOU TRIED TO PULL A LOCK AND TURN ON, ON DEVELOPMENT BUCKINGHAM AND NOTTINGHAM? YOU TRIED? YEP. IT TOOK ME EIGHT MINUTES TO MAKE A LOCK THE OTHER DAY AND PEOPLE ARE CONSTANTLY GETTING THE TURNING POINT TO GET OUT, GET IN, NO EXITS WAITING HAPPEN. HOW ARE WE GONNA, I I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS GONNA AFFECT TRAFFIC. I'M NOT, HOW CAN IT NOT AFFECT TRAFFIC? I MEAN, IT JUST, JOSH OR ANNISE WOULD, YOU KNOW, HAS THERE BEEN A TREE STUDY DONE? USUALLY THERE'S ONE ON A DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SIZE WHERE WE ASSESS LIKE THE AGE AND HEALTH, THE VITALITY OF THE TREES THAT WE KNOW BETTER CAN BETTER ASSESS HOW MANY NEED TO BE REPLACED IN THE BUILDING OR WHAT THE PLAN IS. WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? THE, USUALLY IN A PROJECT OF THAT SIZE WITH THAT MANY MATURE TREES, I THINK YOU'VE BEEN A, A COUPLE OF THEM WHERE ESPECIALLY, UM, LARGER DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, WE DO LIKE A TREE STUDY JUST TO HAVE A BETTER ASSESSMENT. LIKE I APPRECIATE ALL THE TREES THERE, BUT UNFORTUNATELY IF WE FIND OUT LIKE THEY'RE ALL DEAD IN TREES, SAY FOR EXAMPLE, AND THERE WAS A PROJECT WHERE WE HAD THAT INSTANCE, WE REALIZED WHILE THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL, THEY'RE ALSO ALL DEAD. UM, I'D WANNA KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE TREE INVENTORY WOULD BE TELLING US. IF WE HAVE SEVERAL HUNDRED YEAR OLD MAPLES AND OAKS IN THERE, THAT MAY FOR A VERY DIFFERENT PICTURE THAN IF WE HAVE VERY DISEASED TREES THAT ARE RUNNING THE RISK OF COMING DOWN. AND SO RIGHT. GREATER CODE IN TERMS OF PROCESS AND OF WHICH YOU FORMALLY PLANNING FOR, TYPICALLY THE TREE SURVEY HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN SUBMITTED WHEN YOU GET TO THE SITE PLAN, REVIEW PROCESS. OKAY. BECAUSE DOING THAT WITHOUT ENGINEERING PLANS IS RIGHT, A LOT OF GUESSWORK. SO OBVIOUSLY WHEN WE GET THERE, WE'RE AWARE OF THAT BEFORE. OKAY. SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD SHARE WITH THE NEIGHBORS. THAT IS, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PROJECT OF THIS SIZE, RIGHT, THERE ARE GONNA BE TREE REQUIREMENTS. THERE IS GONNA BE A TREE INVENTORY DONE, THERE IS GONNA BE A TREE STUDY DONE. THERE'S A LANDSCAPING PLAN. YEP. AND THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT EXPECTATION THAT WHEN THERE'S A, ANY AMOUNT OF TREE DISTURBANCE, THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TREE REPLACEMENT THAT'S GONNA GO ALONG WITH IT. I, I, I JUST ALSO WANNA RESPOND TO, I KNOW SOME OTHER PEOPLE MIGHT SPEAK, I WANNA RESPOND TO THINGS. NUMBER ONE, ANYONE WHO WANTS PROJECT INFORMATION, WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO SHARE THE INFORMATION. THERE'S PEOPLE HERE FOR THE FIRST TIME THIS EVENING, LET US KNOW AND WE'LL SHARE IT. WE THINK EVERYONE DESERVES THE EXACT SAME INFORMATION. AND NUMBER TWO, I WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR, AT NO POINT IN THIS PROCESS ARE WE TRYING TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE FEEL THE RESIDENTS WANT. THAT'S THE VERY NATURE OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING. WE BELIEVE WE'VE RECEIVED A GENERAL CONSENSUS THAT RESIDENTIAL IS PREFERABLE TO COMMERCIAL. AND WE CERTAINLY ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT MOST RESIDENTS PREFER THAT NOTHING OCCURRED. BUT I WANNA MAKE CLEAR, AT NO POINT IN THIS PROCESS ARE WE TRYING TO SAY, HEY, HERE'S THE POSITION OF ANY INDIVIDUAL RESIDENT. HERE'S THE POSITION OF ANY INDIVIDUAL HOUSEHOLD AS THE SUPERVISOR HAS INDICATED. THAT IS THE VERY ESSENCE OF TONIGHT'S HEARING. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. HI, MY NAME IS CHRISTINE STILL AND WE RECENTLY MOVED HERE FROM OHIO. I WORK IN HILBERT COLLEGE, I'M THE PROVOST. AND, UH, WE REALLY WANTED TO SETTLE IN HAMBURG FIVE MINUTES AWAY FROM WORK. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL COMMUTE FOR ME, BUT IT'S REALLY, REALLY, REALLY DISAPPOINTING TO, TO BE FACED WITH THIS POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT BEHIND OUR VERY PEACEFUL NEIGHBORHOOD. NEIGHBORHOOD. A BEAUTIFUL WOODS BEHIND US. EVEN NOW WE KNOW WE HEAR TRAFFIC. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S FINE, BUT IT'S BUSY ENOUGH NEXT TO OUR LOT IS THIS BEAUTIFUL WETLAND THAT WE, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS A DECIDING FACTOR IN OUR, IN OUR DECISION OF, OF WHERE TO, TO PURCHASE A HOME. SO IT'S JUST VERY, VERY UNSETTLING. UM, AND IT'S JUST, I HOPE THAT YOU WILL REALLY CONSIDER ALL OF OUR WONDERFUL NEIGHBORS. UM, YOU WANT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO BE PEACEFUL AND SAFE FOR THE CHILDREN. THERE'S A LOT OF WONDERFUL, BEAUTIFUL LITTLE FAMILIES THAT ARE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE WANT THEM TO REMAIN SAFE ALONG WITH EVERYBODY, UM, IN OUR DIFFERENT AREA HERE. SO JUST, UM, IF YOU'LL JUST CONSIDER LEAVING THINGS AS THEY ARE. AND I THINK, I DON'T KNOW YOUR NAME, BUT I THINK YOU SAID IT BEAUTIFULLY. UM, JUST THE TOWN HAS A CHARACTER OF ITS OWN AND WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO MAINTAIN THAT AND PRESERVE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. MY NAME IS CARD. I'M ALSO A RESIDENT OF HARLEY'S COURT. I KNOW WE'VE KIND OF BEEN OVER A HANDFUL OF THESE POINTS THAT I JUST WANNA HIT ON REAL QUICK. BUT, UM, I'D FIRST LIKE TO ADDRESS, I UNDERSTAND THAT CARLY'S COURT WAS INITIALLY A PROJECT THAT WAS ALSO OPPOSED BY SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS. UM, AND I RESPECT THAT. UM, I'M NOT ORIGINALLY FROM . I'M FROM A VERY SMALL TOWN, SO I APPRECIATE THE, THE, UH, COMMUNITY IN THESE SMALL LITTLE NEIGHBORHOODS. UM, HOWEVER I WILL SAY CARLY'S COURT HAS, IS A LOT OF YOUNG FAMILIES. [02:35:01] UM, AND I THINK THAT IN THE FUTURE IT'S GOING TO BRING, YOU KNOW, GREAT THINGS TO HAMBURG, HAVING THOSE SMALLER FAMILIES IN THAT AREA. UM, SO HOPEFULLY CARLY SPORT TURNS OUT TO BE MORE OF A BENEFIT TO THE NEIGHBORS THEN, YOU KNOW, A DOWNSIDE. UM, WE ALSO LIVE VIA OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE WETLAND AND CHOSE THAT AREA BECAUSE IT'S NOBODY NEXT TO US, NOBODY BEHIND US. UM, AND AGAIN, WE'VE KNOWN, I'VE, I'VE BEEN IN HAMBURG NOW, UH, SOMEWHERE AROUND 10 YEARS THAT PROPERTY'S BEEN UNTOUCHED COMPLETELY. UM, HAMBURG HAS A HANDFUL OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE. UM, THERE'S PROPERTIES ALL THE WAY DOWN SOUTHWESTERN. THERE'S THE NOTORIOUS EMPTY LOT NEXT TO WALMART THAT NOBODY KNOWS WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THAT. UM, NOBODY ON CARLEY'S COURT IS AGAINST BRINGING MORE HOUSING TO HAMBURG. I THINK WE ALL VERY MUCH SO RESPECT THAT HOUSING IS HUGE ISSUE AND IT DOES NEED TO HAPPEN. UM, BUT ALSO PEOPLE THAT NEED HOUSING CAN'T NECESSARILY AFFORD $1,600 A MONTH. UM, IF YOU ARE A YOUNG COUPLE OR AN ELDERLY PERSON, YOU'RE ON A VERY FIXED INCOME. YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING A LOT MORE REASONABLE THAN THAT. IF YOU'RE PUSHING $2,300 A MONTH FOR RENT, THAT'S A MORTGAGE. UM, YOU CAN, YOU COULD BUILD A HOUSE FOR A MORTGAGE LIKE THAT. UM, YOU KNOW, AS WE KNOW, WE ALL JUST BUILD HOUSES. UM, THERE'S A LOT OF YOUNG PROFESSIONALS ON THIS STREET. WE HAVE EVERY INTENTION OF ARGUING THIS TO, TO WE'RE ALL BLUE IN THE FACE. UM, WE DID PROPOSE TO ALLIANCE DOING PATIO HOMES AS WE KNOW THAT THAT IS AN OPTION FOR THEM TO BUILD. THEY VERY AGGRESSIVELY SHUT THAT DOWN. UM, WE WOULD BE VERY MUCH MORE INCLINED TO, YOU KNOW, AGREE TO SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE AS AGAIN, HAVING SOMEBODY IN A SECOND STORY TOWNHOUSE, LOOKING DOWN IN YOUR BACKYARD, IN YOUR BEDROOM IS KIND OF CREEPY. UM, IT'S JUST NOT A GOOD LOCATION. IT'S NOT GREAT AS WE'VE ALREADY SAID. I ALSO WANTED TO PIGGYBACK OFF A GENTLEMAN THAT BROUGHT OFF, UM, FIRST RESPONDERS. SCRANTON FIRE DEPARTMENT IS ALSO ALWAYS HURTING FOR VOLUNTEERS. I PERSONALLY AM A PART OF ORCHARD PARK, UH, FIRE EMS ONLY BECAUSE IT'S A PAID SERVICE. UM, AND I MEAN, WE'RE ALL HURTING. A MR ISN'T ALWAYS AVAILABLE. UM, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT BIT AND BUSES IN AND OUT OF THERE. THERE'S NO WAY YOU'RE GONNA GET A FIRE TRUCK IN AND OUT OF THERE. YOU KNOW, THAT CLOSE TO HOWARD WITH DOGWOOD, GOD FORBID THERE'S EVER AN ACCIDENT OR, YOU KNOW, A FIRE OR SOMETHING IN THERE. IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT, IT'S NOT FEASIBLE. SO YEAH, HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY THAT WE CAN COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON THIS. BUT THIS, THIS TWO STORY TOWN HOME IDEA, IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA, NOT GONNA WORK. YES, SIR. UM, I'M ARI'S HUSBAND. UH, SO WE BACK UP TO THIS PROPOSED PROJECT. I HAVE LIVED IN HAMBURG MY ENTIRE LIFE AND I HAVE KNOWN AT THAT POT OF LAND HAS BEEN FOR SALE FOR OVER 30 YEARS. SO MY QUESTION IS, WHEN BURKE ORIGINALLY BOUGHT THE OLD HOPE BAIL PROPERTY, WHICH I KNOW EVERYONE IN HERE MIGHT BE A LITTLE UPSET THAT CARLY'S COURT WAS EVEN BUILT, BUT YOU HAVE TO ADMIT IT'S BETTER LOOKING THAN THE EMPTY HOPE BAIL FIELD THAT WAS THERE. I'M GLAD THEY DID SOMETHING WITH IT. SO NOW WE MOVE INTO THIS AREA. WHEN BURKE BOUGHT THE LAND, WHY DIDN'T YOU SELL IT TO BURKE AND BETTER LAY OUT CAR CARLY'S CORE? YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY ALSO, IF IT'S BEEN COMMERCIAL FOR OVER 30 YEARS, CLEARLY NO COMMERCIAL COMPANY WANTS TO GO ON A PLOT OF LAND THAT IS THIS BIG. WHEN I DRIVE BY THAT I FEEL LIKE IT'S LIKE THREE SECONDS ON THE CAR LENGTH TO GET DOWN THERE. THERE'S NO WAY A FIRETRUCK IS GONNA BE ABLE TO TURN AROUND THERE. YOU LOOK AT THESE OTHER PROJECTS, YOU'VE GOT THE ONE IN FRONT OF CLOVER BANK WHERE THEY JUST BUILT ALL OF THOSE APARTMENTS SLASH TOWNHOUSES THAT ARE MILLIONS OF MILES HIGH, BUT THEY'RE NOT CLOSE TO LIKE RESIDENTS. YOU HAVE CLIFTON HEIGHTS, WHICH IS FIVE BUILDINGS, THREE STORIES EACH. BUT AGAIN, THERE'S NO LIKE INVADING OF OTHER PEOPLE'S PRIVACY, RIGHT? IT'S A BIG POT OF LAND IF THEY INHERITED FROM A SWEET SPOT. SO WHY WOULD YOU TRY TO FIT FOUR TO FIVE BUILDINGS AND PARCEL OF WIND THAT IS SO SMALL? I FEEL LIKE I RAISED LIKE FOUR ACROSS. THAT'S THE WIDTH OF THE, THE AC I MEAN, COME ON. AND NOW YOU'RE GONNA TRY AND PUT CARS COMING UP ONTO HOWARD AND I KNOW THE, UH, HOMEOWNER BROUGHT UP, UH, TREES. SO BURKE MESSED UP THE STREET INITIALLY. I KNOW THAT WETLAND NEXT TO OUR HOUSE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ON WOODS, SO THAT GOT XI UNDERSTAND THAT SOME OF THE TREES BEHIND US MAY BE SOMEWHAT DEAD, BUT THERE'S STILL NATURE IN THERE. THERE'S STILL WILDLIFE. WE HAVE A TON OF BEERS, BELIEVE ME, MY DOGS LET ME KNOW WHAT WHAT'S OUT THERE. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL AREA, BUT DON'T GO KNOCKING DOWN TREES TO PUT UP FOUR OR FIVE TWO STORY APARTMENT BUILDINGS THAT WOULD BE BETTER OFF SOMEPLACE ELSE ON A BIGGER PLOT OF LAND. LIKE AGAIN, SCHOOL BUSES. I MEAN [02:40:02] THEY BARELY, YOU KNOW, GO TO CLIFTON HEIGHTS. I DON'T MEAN THE THE PLOW AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PUSHING SNOW. SO IF THEY'RE NOT GONNA PUSH SNOW TOWARDS THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PARTIAL, THEY'RE GONNA PUSH IT AGAINST THE FENCE. I ASKED 'EM FOR A EIGHT TO 10 FOOT FENCE. THEY'RE NOT PING. THEY'RE GIVING ME SIX. I'M FIVE ONE. I COULD JUMP SIX FOOT FENCE . YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE THAT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING. THE PEOPLE BEHIND LOWE'S GOT A 10 FOOT FENCE. WHAT, WHY DID THEY GET THAT BIG WHEN THEY'RE WE'RE GETTING A SIX FOOT AND A FOUR OR FIVE APARTMENT BUILDINGS? NO ONE'S GOT AN ANSWER FOR THAT. SO I DON'T FEEL THAT WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS ENOUGH AT ALL. I DON'T THINK, I THINK THIS IS SOME MONEY GRAB. I THINK SHE WANTS TO JUST SELL IT FOR RETIREMENT AND, AND GO WITH THAT. YOU SHOULD HAVE GOT RID OF IT A LONG TIME AGO WHEN IT WAS, WHEN THERE WAS NOTHING THERE. I MEAN, EVEN WHEN IT WAS COMMERCIAL, WHAT WERE YOU GONNA PUT FROM WHOLESALE? NO ONE GO THERE. COME ON. I HAVE FRIENDS THAT LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. WE WERE ALL TOLD DON'T BUY WHOLESALE. I MEAN AT LEAST IT'S BETTER THAN WHAT IT IS NOW, BUT WHAT YOU'RE APPROACHING THE CUT ON THAT BOTTOM LAND, IT'S NOT BIG FOR THAT. THANK YOU. ONE QUESTION PROBABLY MORE, MORE SO DIRECTLY TO THEM, BUT, UM, AND THE, WE'RE STILL OWNING THE PROPERTY AND LIKE TECHNICALLY ALLIANCE WAS JUST DOING THE PROJECT AND INVENTORY, STILL MAKING THE MONEY OFF OF THE PROPERTY. HOW IS YOUR PARTNERSHIP WORKING? YES, SO THERE'S LIBERATORY FAMILY STILL OWNS THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD BE DONE IF WE GET APPROVED AS A JOINT VENTURE. SO THEY WOULD WORK TOGETHER WITH, OF COURSE MR. ROMANOW, THE TAKING THE LEAD IN TERMS OF CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT, SOUTHERN. YOU'RE WELCOME. ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO BE HEARD? YES SIR. I, I JUST WANNA SAY, UM, MY NAME'S SAM HENDRICKS. I ALSO LIVE ON CARLEY'S NEXT TO CAR EY AND A FEW OTHERS THAT JUST SPOKE. I THINK EVERYTHING THEY'VE SAID IS REALLY, REALLY VALID. UM, I MYSELF WAS A BIT FLABBERGASTED THAT THERE'S EVEN ROOM ON THIS PROPERTY. PUT SOMETHING IN AS WE CAN SEE THROUGH TO SOUTHWESTERN BOULEVARD IN THE WINTERTIME. UM, I WILL SAY THAT MY WIFE AND I DID MOVE HERE FROM ATLANTA TOWARD AND WE, WE SETTLED ON HAMBURG BECAUSE IT WASN'T IN WILLIAMSVILLE OR IT WASN'T AMHERST WITH THE TRANSIT ROAD PROPERTIES EVERYWHERE. WE LOVE THE COMMUNITY, WE LOVE THE AREA. WE WERE EXCITED, WE'RE EXCITED TO, UH, RAISE A FAMILY HERE. UM, IT'S, IT'S DISHEARTENING TO SEE AND HEAR KIND OF WHAT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE TOWN AND ALL THAT. SO, YOU KNOW, OUR CONCERN IS OF PROPERTY VALUE AS WELL, UM, CONSIDERING THEY MIGHT CLEAR CUT THE AREA BACK THERE AND PUT, YOU KNOW, APARTMENTS BACK THERE AND THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO SEE ONTO OUR PROPERTIES AND WHETHER JUST MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO OUR HOME VALUE IN OUR TEXAS, UH, WILL THAT ALSO BE READJUSTED WITH THIS PROJECT? SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'D ASK TO CONSIDER. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO BE HEARD BEFORE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? THANK YOU FIRST OF ALL FOR HEARING US AND I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR CONCERNS. I'M MICHELLE DETORY AND YES, I AM THE PROPERTY OWNER. OUR FAMILY HAS HAD THIS PROPERTY IN OUR FAMILY FOR OVER 30 YEARS AND I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR CONCERNS THAT YOU'VE COME UP. HOWEVER, THIS HAS BEEN OUR BUSINESS AND UM, FOR OVER 50 YEARS. MY FATHER ORIGINALLY STARTED THIS BUSINESS. WE HAVE, AS YOU KNOW, MANY PIECES OF PROPERTY IN HAMBURG. UM, WE COUPLED UP WITH, UM, ANDREW ROMANOWSKI BECAUSE I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, HE'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST, UH, GENTLEMEN THAT KEN PUT UP A VERY NICE, UM, APARTMENT COMPLEX. UM, WE WORK WITH HIM. HE DOES A LOT OF, AS YOU'VE SEEN A LOT OF NICE, UM, COMPLEXES. UM, WE WILL DEVELOP A PROPERTY AT SOME POINT OR ANOTHER. I MEAN IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ALWAYS DO AND I APPRECIATE THE, THE CONCERN THAT ONE OF, AND I, I APOLOGIZE IF I MISS WHO SPOKE ABOUT THIS. OUR PROPERTY ON MCKINLEY PARKWAY, WE DO NOT OWN OUR, OUR PROPERTY ON MCKINLEY PARKWAY ANYMORE. THAT WAS SOLD OVER A YEAR AND A HALF AGO. UM, I EXPRESSED CONCERNS TO THE NEW OWNERS MYSELF BECAUSE OF THEY HAVEN'T BEGUN, UM, CONSTRUCTION THERE. OKAY. I, FOR A PROPERTY THAT'S BEEN IN OUR FAMILY FOR OVER UM, 40 YEARS, IT'S DISHEARTENING TO ME ALSO. SO, UM, I APPRECIATE THAT I HAVE, UM, CONTACTED NEW OWNERS AND I'M ALWAYS ON THEM WITH RESPECT TO THAT. UM, SOUTHWESTERN AND HOWARD, LIKE I SAID, WE'VE BEEN IN OUR BUSINESS OF LEASING AND RENTAL PROPERTIES FOR MANY YEARS AND WE HAVE A WAITING LIST. EVEN JUST A SMALL AMOUNT OF UNITS THAT WE HAVE. UM, LEASING IS NOT, YES, I APPRECIATE THAT PEOPLE OWN HOMES, BUT LEASING DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY'RE FIVE BY NIGHTS AND THEY'RE HERE FOR A YEAR AND GONE TOMORROW. MOST OF OUR TENANTS THAT WE'VE HAD FOR OVER 40 YEARS, WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF THEM THAT HAVE BEEN WITH US FOR 15, 15, 20 YEARS. IT'S NOT, IT'S A CERTAIN MARKET. YES, [02:45:01] I CAN APPRECIATE THAT. IT'S NOT A HOME, IT'S, IT'S AN APARTMENT, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT SECONDARY, UM, YOU KNOW, PROFESSIONALS, ELDERLY PEOPLE THAT JUST CAN'T HANDLE A HOME. UM, AND THEY DO LIKE IN MY DEPARTMENT, SO THEY ARE WILLING TO PAY THE HIGHER ONES AND THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO PUT A NICER COMPLEX THERE. WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO JUST PUT BUY BUY NIGHT RENTAL UNITS THERE. WE DO WANT TO, UH, ENHANCE THE COMMUNITY. UM, THE BUILDINGS THAT ANDY PIPES UP. THAT'S WHY WE CHOSE ANDY. 'CAUSE HE PUTS UP A NICE BUILDING. IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE, YES, IT WILL. YOU KNOW, YOU PUT UP 60 APARTMENT UNITS YOU HAVE HERE ARE GONNA HAVE SOME, UM, TRACK THE TRAFFIC THAT'S GONNA BE LOOKING FAIR. I DRIVE UP AND DOWN SOUTHWESTERN 'CAUSE I TRAVEL TO WORK EVERY DAY. OKAY. AND JUST, AND, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO JUST DISPUTE YOU IN ANY WAY, BUT LIKE I SAID, IT IT IS, IT WILL, BUT IT IS NOT GOING TO AFFECT YOU AS MUCH THERE. THIS PROPERTY WILL BE, I FEEL A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY'S EVEN GONNA BE WORSE. DO YOU HAVE SOMEONE LOOKING IN YOUR BACKYARD? DO YOU, UM, DO YOU PLAN ON THE PATIO? I JUST ASK THAT WE JUST, WE BE RESPECTFUL AND JUST STAY IN ORDER. UM, WE'VE GIVEN EVERYBODY THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. WHEN MS. LATOR IS DONE SPEAKING, I'LL CIRCLE BACK TO FOLKS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, BUT JUST ONE PERSON AT A TIME, PLEASE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, I, WE WILL DO SOMETHING WITH THE PROPERTY. IT, IT IS SOMETHING THAT'S DONE IN OUR FAMILY. THERE'S NOTHING THAT I'VE CHOSEN THIS PROPERTY VERSUS OTHERS. I ACTUALLY, I'VE CHOSEN THIS PROPERTY TO DO RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER COMMERCIAL, UH, PROPERTIES OUT THERE THAT THAT COMMERCIAL CAN GO TO. UM, IT HAS, IT'S A NICE COMMUNITY TO HAVE A MIX, UH, APARTMENT BUILDINGS THERE. UM, AND ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, LIKE I SAYS, I I DO INTEND TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE PROPERTY. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I'M JUST DECIDING TO DO BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN, UM, IT'S JUST THE, YOU KNOW, THE NATURE OF UM, WHERE, WHERE OUR COMPANY IS RIGHT NOW AND WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO HANDLE. THANK YOU ANYBODY THAT WE'LL START WITH. ANYBODY THAT HASN'T SPOKEN YET, MEGAN, I MOVED THERE LAST YEAR AND WE DECIDED TO MOVE ON THAT SPOT BECAUSE OF HALF THE WOODS AND LEFT AND PRIVACY. SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO BUILD OUR PATIO, OUR PATIO WITH SPRING AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE YOUR TWO STORY APARTMENT AND YOU'RE LIKE, OKAY, DOWN. WHY DO YOU WANNA GO IN MY BACKYARD AND JUST SPEND TIME THERE? OR EVEN IF YOU HAVE A POOL, IF YOU HAVE UM, ANYTHING LIKE JACUZZI, WHATEVER YOU'RE GONNA DO. YEAH, THAT TOO. UM, YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T WANT LIKE STRANGE PEOPLE LOOKING IN YOUR BACKYARD REGARDLESS OF YOUR SIX FOOT POND, REGARDLESS OF THE TREES THAT ARE GOING TO GROW REGARDLESS. WE CHOSE THAT SPOT FOR THAT REASON. IT WAS VERY STRATEGIC IS EITHER WE'RE GOING TO LIKE LAND HERE OR WE TO CHOOSE FOR ANOTHER CLUB TO SOMEWHERE. BUT WE CHOSE THAT AND WE ALSO, I PAPERWORK THAT WITH MURANO, NOTHING WAS GOING TO BE BUILT AND WE HAVE LIKE THAT PAGE AND PAGE AND FIND IT AND YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT. SO LET YOU KNOW. AND IF YOU HAVE SCREEN SLIP IN YOUR BACKYARD IN AN APARTMENT BUILDING, I MEAN, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT TOO . SO IF WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY ELSE THAT HAS NOT SPOKEN YET THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE ISSUE, JUST LIKE TO SAY, WELL I, I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS AND I RESPECT THAT ABOUT YOUR PRIVACY, BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU CHOSE TO BUILD A NEW HOUSE ADJACENT TO A PRIME PIECE OF COMMERCIAL FRONTAGE ON, IT'S NOT REASONABLE TO THINK THAT THAT A PIECE OF LAND IS NEVER GONNA, HOW IS THAT NOT SO WOULD ASK THAT YOU DO NOT INTERRUPT ANY OF THE SPEAKERS. WE'VE ALL AFFORDED EVERYBODY THE COURTESY OF ALLOWING THEM TO SPEAK WITHOUT INTERRUPTION. SO PLEASE REFRAIN FROM INTERRUPTING. SO MY POINT IS THAT NEIGHBORHOOD CLEARLY BACKS UP TO A LARGE COMMERCIAL PIECE OF PROPERTY, 13 ACRES IN SIZE WITH A LOT OF FRONTAGE ON MAJOR SOUTHWESTERN, UH, BOULEVARD THOROUGHFARE. THE NOTION THAT YOU CAN BUILD A HOME THERE AND, AND THEN CONTROL THE ADJACENT PIECE OR REASONABLY EXPECT THAT NOTHING'S EVER GONNA BE BUILT ON THAT PRIME COMMERCIAL PIECE JUST SEEMS ILLOGICAL TO ME. SO WE'VE, WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF INFORMATION, UH, FROM, FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER, FROM THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPER, AS WELL AS FROM THE RESIDENCE. I'D NOW ASK IF THERE'S ANY NEW CONCERNS OR NEW INFORMATION THAT FOLKS WOULD LIKE TO, TO BRING TO LIGHT. YES MA'AM. JUST ONE SIMPLE QUESTION. IS THERE AN OPTION FOR YOU TO PARCEL THE PROPERTIES OUT AND LET THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON CARLY'S COURT PURCHASE EACH INDIVIDUAL PLOTTED PLAN BEHIND ALL OF US? I MEAN OBVIOUSLY YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIVE LIKE AN ANSWER RIGHT THIS SECOND, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED ON LIKE, 'CAUSE US NEIGHBORS HAD TALKED ABOUT IT. UM, WE'D BE INTERESTED IN PURCHASING THE LAND TO IT THEN, YOU KNOW, KEEP IT AS IS. I'M SURE THERE'S ALSO ZONING THINGS THAT WOULD'VE TO GO WITH THAT AND ALL SORTS OF [02:50:01] OTHER PROPOSALS AND WHATNOT, BUT WE'RE NOT OBLIVIOUS TO THE FACT THAT SOMETHING WAS PROBABLY GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE PROPERTY EVENTUALLY. TWO STORY TOWN HOMES IN OUR BACKYARD WAS NOT OBVIOUSLY WHAT WE FOR THAT BUILDING TO BE. BUT THAT WAS JUST MY MY QUESTION. SOMETHING THAT I JUST WANNA SAY IN RESPONSE TO THAT. I THINK IT'S A LITTLE INSULTING THAT YOU KEEP SAYING IT HAD TO BE REASONABLE, THAT YOU SHOULD EXPECT THAT SOMETHING WOULD'VE BEEN BUILT THERE, BUT IT WAS COMMERCIAL. SO IF WE ALL WOULD'VE EVEN ASSUMED IT'S GONNA BE A STARBUCKS, PEOPLE GO HOME AT THE END OF THE DAY, NO ONE'S THERE THE LATE HOURS OF THE NIGHT LOOKING OVER AND THEY INTO YOUR BACKYARD. YES. MIXES . I HAVE A QUESTION. MY CHILDREN GREW UP IN THAT AREA AND I WANNA KNOW, COULD KEEP IT COMMERCIAL. WHERE'S YOUR CARS AND TRUCKS GONNA COME OUT OF HOWARD ROAD OR SOUTHWESTERN BOULEVARD? IT WOULD BE HEADED ON THE POSITION OF DOP, NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. YOU CAN'T GO THROUGH A NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE THAT WAY COMMERCIAL VEHICLE. NO, I'M JUST SAYING IT'S, IT'S THEIR ROADWAY. THAT'S SO, THANK YOU. YES, SIR. UH, INITIALLY HE SAID THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION WOULD NOT LET A DRIVEWAY ON SOUTHWESTERN. SO HOW ARE TRUCKS GONNA BE ENTERING ON SOUTHWESTERN? THEY'RE GONNA BE ON HOWARD. IF, IF YOU COULD HAVE GOTTEN AN ENTRANCE ON SOUTHWESTERN, I MIGHT ACTUALLY AGREE WITH THE COMMERCIAL, BUT BECAUSE THEY GOT DENIED AN ENTRANCE ON SOUTHWESTERN, IT DOESN'T EVEN SEEM FEASIBLE WITH THE PARKING RIGHT THERE. I MEAN, AND THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON HOWARD, THE FIRST TWO HOUSES, THEY'RE CONSTANTLY PARKING ON THE STREET. MM-HMM . I MEAN, AND IT'S, THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO PARK ON THE STREET. THERE'S NO PARKING, THERE'S NOT NO PARKING SIGN. ARE YOU GONNA LIKE GIVE THEM A NO PARKING SIGN BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE GONNA INSULT THOSE TWO OR THREE THOUSANDS. I'M JUST SAYING, I JUST WANNA SAY THANKS FOR BOTH SIDES TO COME OUT AND THIS IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. DEMOCRACY AND PEOPLE EXPRESSING THEIR VIEWPOINTS AND THE THE DEVELOPERS, THE CITIZENS AND WE HAVE A LOT TO, TO LOOK AT. I APPRECIATE EVERYONE VIEWPOINT AND WHAT HAD TO SET. SO THANKS FOR COMING. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY, UH, NEW QUESTIONS, NEW INFORMATION THAT, THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SHARE? SOUTHWESTERN THAT, SO THERE'S AN EMAIL AND I CAN FORWARD TO YOU. THERE'S AN EMAIL THAT WAS SENT, I THINK JOSH BACK. SO FROM THE NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT TRANSPORTATION TO JOSH ROGER'S POINT OF CONCERN. MS MY FIANCE WAS STATE TROOPER. HE DID CALL, I WILL HAVE TO CURRENTLY ON DUTY, SO TO JUST TOUCH BASE WITH HIM ON WHO WE SPOKE WITH, BUT THEY DID NOT AGREE WITH THE HOWARD ENTRANCE TO CALL WHO WE SPOKE WITH. AND I JUST FEEL LIKE MAYBE YOU DIDN'T PUSH HARD ENOUGH OR GET WORK WITH THEM ON A DIFFERENT RESOLUTION. LIKE FACTOR SUPPLIES THERE AND THERE'S MULTIPLE OTHER FEMALE INCLUDED A LOT OF THE OTHER APARTMENT COMPLEXES OVER THERE, WHICH A LOT OF 'EM ARE SENIOR LIVING. SO THOSE ARE ELDERLY AND SENIOR PEOPLE DRIVING IN AND OUT. ACCIDENTS DO OCCUR A LOT AND A LOT OF, I'M SURE I DID. IT CAN'T BE, YOU KNOW, BOTH WAYS. EXIT ENTRANCE, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IMPOSSIBLE. BUT A LOT OF THEM ARE RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT. TRACTOR SUPPLY, A LOT OF OTHER, YOU KNOW, IS THAT AN OPTION? WE WOULD, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT IF WE CAN. I JUST WANNA KNOW, YOU KNOW, ANDY ALSO DID FOLLOW UP WITH DOT AND I BELIEVE JOSH AND ELISE MET WITH DOT STAFF, BUT IF IT'S AN OPTION, YEAH, LET'S HEAR FROM MR. ROGERS SINCE HE WAS THE RECIPIENT OF THE EMAIL. UM, WE SPOKE WITH DOT SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THIS PROJECT, UM, AND SPOKE WITH CASEY GORDON. HE IS THE, UH, TRANSPORTATION ANALYST ANALYST FOR THIS REGION. UH, WHAT HE TOLD US IS THAT, UH, IT WOULD DO TS POSITION THAT THEY WOULD NOT ALLOW, UH, DRIVEWAY ON THE SOUTHWESTERN AND THAT THEY WOULD PUSH ALL TRAFFIC ONTO, UH, HOWARD. WE THEN ASKED IF THEY WOULD DO A RIGHT AND WRITE OUT TO NO THANK YOU. NEW POLICY THAT THEY'RE TAKING NOT FOR ALL STATE. WHAT WAS THEIR REASONING? CURIOUS LIKE THEY WANNA REDUCE TRAFFIC ON THE STATE HIGHWAYS FOR, UM, THEY WANNA KEEP IT LIKE A THOROUGH FAIR RATHER THAN STOP AND THEY'RE TRYING TO REDUCE, UM, MAINTEN LITTLE TOO, RIGHT? I'M NOT SAYING IT AGAINST YOU GUYS AT ALL. YOU'RE JUST GONNA SAY YES BUT TOO LATE AND I WANT TO KNOW GEO O CHIEF AND APPLY THAT POLICY ON NOT JUST ALL STATE S YEAH, I ABOUT HOWARD ROAD. THAT IS A MAJOR HURDLE THERE SINCE ALL THESE PARTS. EVERYBODY WANTS A ZOOMING BYPASS WEST OR, AND ALL THOSE TRAFFIC LIGHTS AND THEY COME DOWN THERE WITH THE SPLIT ROLLING THROUGH THAT STOP SIGN. IS THERE ANY WAY WE COULD REQUEST SPEED BUMPS BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC'S NOT GONNA GO AWAY THANKS TO THESE PEOPLE HERE. IT'S GOING TO BE INCREASING, SO, AND WE JUST NEED TRAFFIC CONTROL. IT'S, IT'S VERY DANGEROUS. [02:55:01] IF, IF, IF YOU TURN TO YOUR LEFT AND LOOK BACK JUST A LITTLE BIT, THERE'S A GENTLEMAN IN A, A BLUE UH SHIRT THERE, THAT'S MATT YAMUNI. HE IS THE NEW CHAIR OF OUR TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD. SO ANY REQUESTS FOR STOP SIGNS AND ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE, UH, CAN BE PUT THROUGH OUR TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD. SO I BELIEVE WE'RE, WE'RE GOING ON ABOUT AN HOUR ON THIS, UH, PUBLIC HEARING. WE'RE HAPPY TO STAY HERE AS LONG AS YOU'D LIKE. UM, BUT IS THERE ANY NEW INFORMATION OR NEW QUESTIONS TO BE POSED TO THE TOWN BOARD? ALL RIGHT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? CARRIED. THANK YOU. WE'LL TAKE JUST A COUPLE MINUTES WHILE FOLKS, UH, THAT WERE HERE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING EXIT. YEAH, THERE'S HEARD AS MANY RECORDS AS NAMES AS I COULD CATCH, BUT A LOT OF 'EM DIDN'T. I WOULDN'T 70 MILE AN AWAY. FOLKS, WE HAVE A LONG AGENDA SO IF, UH, IF YOU'RE LEAVING THAT'S FINE. YOU'RE NOT GONNA HURT OUR FEELINGS, BUT IF YOU COULD PLEASE CURB THE CONVERSATION SO WE CAN CONTINUE WITH OUR AGENDA. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR COMING. THANK YOU. MAKE SURE YOU GUYS SPEAK DIRECTLY INTO THE MIC. THEY CAN'T HEAR YOU. OKAY. ALRIGHT, THIS BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER SIX. BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVES THE MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING AS FOLLOWS, TOWN BOARD REGULAR MEETING NOVEMBER 27TH, 2023. SO MOVED SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. NOT A QUESTION. I MEAN, I WASN'T HERE FOR THIS MEETING, BUT I'M JUST APPROVING THAT WHAT HAPPENED HAPPENED. I'M JUST UP STAGE ONCE I WASN'T, SO I WENT THROUGH THE MEETING MINUTES. I'M JUST, OKAY, SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE THREE EYES. DO WE HAVE ANY NOS? DO WE HAVE ANY ABSTENTIONS? YOU WANT ABSTENTION? YEP. AND WHAT'D YOU SAY, DAN? OH, I, I VOTED YES. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT THAT, YOU KNOW, NOT BEING THERE WAS A MEETING BEFORE WE TOOK OFFICE AND UM, YOU KNOW, I, I WENT THROUGH THE MINUTES. I BELIEVE WHAT HAPPENED HAPPENED. WHEREAS AS A TON OF BURY POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS A NEED FOR POLICE MATRONS AND A QUALIFIED CANDIDATE IS AVAILABLE NOW, THEREFORE BE RESOLVED. THE TOWN BOARD TO APPROVE THE HIRING OF KATHLEEN MORELOCK AS A POLICE MATRON FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON AN AS NEEDED BASIS BE RESOLVED. THE SALARIES $25 PER HOUR AND FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT B 3 1 2 0 2. SO MOVED SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? DETENTIONS CARRIED. BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVE ON THE RECOMMENDATION OF BRIDGETTE LAVELL. COURT ADMINISTRATOR TO HIRE MARK A BALTZ TO THE POSITION OF TOWN OR COURT OFFICER WITH THE START DATE OF TUESDAY, JANUARY 23RD, 2024. SALARY IS $25 PER HOUR. SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. PROPOSED ABSTENTIONS CARRIED. NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED WITH THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG APPROVES THE PURCHASE OF TWO VOLVO WHEEL LOADERS FROM ULTA CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT FOR THE PRICE OF $337,967 TO BE FINANCED THROUGH KS STATE BANK FOR A PERIOD OF FIVE YEARS. PRICING IS PER NEW YORK STATE OGS CONTRACT, PC 6 9 4 3 7 FUNDS AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT DB 5 1 3 4 7 8. SO MOVED SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? CARRIED. BE IT RESOLVED WITH THE TOWN BOARD APPROVED THE FOLLOWING HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT PAF. SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? PENSIONS CARRIED. WHEREAS [03:00:01] THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT HAS JURISDICTION AND OVERSIGHT OVER THE TOWNS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS AND IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ENSURING THAT SAID, FUNDS ARE UTILIZED IN ACCORDANCE WITH ALL FEDERAL LAWS AND REQUIREMENTS OF THE US DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM AND WHEREAS THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT HAD UTILIZED THE HAMBURG DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AS A SUB-RECIPIENT TO COMPLETE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, JOB CREATION, JOB RETENTION ACTIVITIES FOR THE TOWN OF HAMBURG AND WHEREAS THE CONTRACT DIE IN BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND THE HAMBURG DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION EXPIRED ON MARCH 31ST, 2021. NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES THE TOWN SUPERVISOR TO EXECUTE A NEW SUB-RECIPIENT AGREEMENT BY AND BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND THE HENRICK DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION FOR THE USE OF TOWNS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM INCOME FUNDS FOR THE TIMEFRAME JANUARY 1ST, 2024 THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2025. SO MOVED. SECOND, UH, FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS CARRIED. WHEREAS TOWN OF HAMBURG AS A MEMBER OF THE ASSOCIATION OF TOWNS IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK AND WHEREAS THE 2024 ANNUAL MEETING IN TRAINING SCHOOL IS BEING HELD FEBRUARY 18TH, 2021. 2024 IN NEW YORK CITY AND WHEREAS ACTUAL AND NECESSARY EXPENSES OCCURRED IN ATTENDING THIS SCHOOL, INCLUDING THE REGISTRATION FEE AND PROPER MUNICIPAL CHARGES UNDER TOWN LAW, SUBSECTION 1 16 12 IN GENERAL MUNICIPAL HOUSE SUBSECTION 77 B AND THEREFORE BE RESOLVED, THE TOWN BOARD DOES HEREBY AUTHORIZE THE SUPERVISOR TO ATTEND THE ASSOCIATION OF TOWNS IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK ANNUAL MEETING AND TRAINING SCHOOL WITH THE FOLLOWING EXPENSES. REGISTRATION $150, THREE NIGHTS HOTEL AT $308 PER NIGHT, FOUR DAYS OF MEALS AT $50 A DAY, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES THE USE OF A TOWN VEHICLE BY THE SUPERVISOR IN A TRAIN TICKET FOR APPROXIMATELY $150 TO TRAVEL TO AND FROM THE MEETING AND TRAINING SCHOOL FUNDS AVAILABLE IN A 1220 0.0492. SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? AB EXTENSIONS CARRIED EMERGENCY AMBULANCE SERVICE AGREEMENT WHEREAS IN CONSULTATION WITH THE TON OF HAMBURG FIRE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION HAS BEEN DETERMINED BUNCH OF, HOLD ON A SECOND. IT'S PAGE 41. YEAH, SO I'M MISSING SEVERAL, SO JUST BEAR WITH ME. SO I'M GONNA POLL 1314. I'M MISSING EVERYTHING UNTIL 20. EVERYTHING WHICH YEAH. EXTRA APPLICATION. OKAY. OKAY. CONTRACT TERMINATION, HUMAN RESOURCES CONSULTANT RESOLVE THE HAMMER TOWN BOARD TERMINATES THE CONTRACT BETWEEN THE TOWN AND INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR, NANCY CURRY AS OUTLINED IN THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN AND NANCY CURRY AND THE TASK LEGAL DEPARTMENT WITH ISSUING THE 30 DAY NOTICE OF TERMINATION. UM, 1 23 24 AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED DURING THE NEXT 30 DAYS. NANCY CURRY WILL PARTICIPATE IN THE TRANSITION PLAN AND MEETING AS REQUESTED WITH BARKLEY DAMON LEAD EMPLOYMENT COUNCIL AND ASSOCIATES. SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? TENSIONS CARRIED. HUMAN RESOURCES LABOR EMPLOYMENT COUNCIL. RESOLVED THAT HAMBURG TOWN BOARD RETAINS BARCLAY DAMON, LLP EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY WITH JIM DUNSKI AS LEAD LABOR EMPLOYMENT COUNSEL AS NEEDED AND THE RATE OF NOT TO EXCEED THREE 50 AN HOUR FOR THE PARTNER AND NOT TO EXCEED 235 FOR THE ASSOCIATE WITH A CAP OF $50,000 FOR 2024 YEAR AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, THE SUPERVISOR IS AUTHORIZED TO SIGN A RETAINER AGREEMENT WITH BARCLAY DAMON, LLP FOR SAID SERVICES AS SOON AS RECEIVED. SECOND ON THE QUESTION. I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THIS RESOLUTION. UM, AND THIS IS A DEVIATION FROM FROM PAST PRACTICE. UH, THE TOWN OF HAMBURG HAS IN THE PAST RETAINED HUMAN RESOURCES PROFESSIONALS TO ASSIST IN THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATION AS WELL AS, UH, CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS AND MANAGING GRIEVANCES. UM, AND I BELIEVE, UH, THAT IT'S THE INTENTION OF THE BOARD TO HAVE, UH, MR. DSKY AND ASSOCIATES, UH, DO WORK THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY DONE BY FOLKS AT A MUCH LOWER RATE. $350 AN HOUR, I BELIEVE IS EXCESSIVE. UH, AND WE HAVE A [03:05:01] NEED FOR AN HR PROFESSIONAL. THE PA IN THE PAST, THE TOWN OF HAMBURG HAS MEASURED INTO AGREEMENTS WITH PEOPLE LIKE DAN JARNO, BOB COFF, WHO HAD, UH, EXPERIENCE WORKING IN, IN GOVERNMENTS AT THE LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL, NAVIGATING CIVIL SERVICE LAW, UH, AND ADVISING THE TOWN AND OUR PERSONNEL DEPARTMENT, UH, ON OUR DAY-TO-DAY ACTIVITIES. UH, I WILL BE VERY HESITANT TO PICK UP THE PHONE TO REACH OUT TO MR. ALKI AT A RATE OF $350 AN HOUR. AND I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT OUR CAPACITY WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, RESPONDING TO THE MANY HR ISSUES THAT WILL ARISE, UH, IN THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATION OF THE TOWN. THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, UH, IN THE PAST TWO YEARS HAS CERTAINLY RETAINED OUTSIDE COUNSEL TO HELP US, UH, WITH, WITH, WITH LABOR LAW ISSUES. UH, BUT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO SO AT A RATE OF $265 AN HOUR, UM, WHICH STILL IS, IS QUITE A BIT. UH, AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH, UH, NANCY CURRY, WHO IS A, AN HR PROFESSIONAL, UH, THAT HAS SIGNIFICANT EXPERIENCE WORKING IN A GOVERNMENT AGENCY, UH, AND WORKING UNDER CIVIL SERVICE LAW AND ADVISING DEPARTMENT HEADS, UH, ON THEIR ACTIVITIES. UM, I'M ALSO CONCERNED AT THE, UH, INCREASING POL POLITICIZATION OF SOME OF THESE APPOINTMENTS, BEING THAT, UH, MR. DOKI IS THE FORMER CHAIR OF THE ERIE COUNTY REPUBLICAN PARTY FOR THOSE REASONS, I WILL BE VOTING NO ON THIS RESOLUTION. MR. MR. HOKE. UM, THE ONE I I INCLINED TO AGREE WITH YOU TO SOME, TO SOME EXTENT. I HAVE REQUESTED SOME INFORMATION FROM, UM, THE TOWN REGARDING DIFFERENT JOBS THAT ARE THERE, AND I HAVEN'T, IF WE GET THAT AS TO MANAGEMENT CONFIDENTIAL POSITIONS AND I'VE BEEN STRUGGLING WITH THAT, I'LL CONTINUE TO, YOU KNOW, I'M ENTITLED TO IT, BUT WE HAVE A PERSONNEL DIRECTOR AND WE ALSO HAVE A HUMAN RESOURCE PERSON, WHICH SEEMS TO BE, IN MY EXPERIENCE, A DUPLICATION AND, AND THERE COULD BE SOME POTENTIAL CONSOLIDATION. THIS, UM, CONTRACT CAPS IT AT $50,000. SO WE WOULD THINK IT'S LESS THAN WHAT WE PAY THE HR CONSULTANT RIGHT NOW. NO, IT'S, IT'S TWICE WITH WHAT WE PAID. UH, MS. CURRY, WHAT DOES MS. CURRY GET AS A LABOR RELATIONS CONSULTANT RIGHT NOW? 60,000 I THOUGHT. NO, HER CHUCK, CHUCK NAUGHTON. CHUCK NAUGHTON. YES. NANCY CURRY. I BELIEVE HER HOURLY RATE WAS ABOUT $50 AN HOUR AND SHE, WE HAD SET ASIDE $50,000 AND SHE USED MAYBE HALF OF THE ALLOTMENT. RIGHT. WE COULD CERTAINLY TERMINATE THIS CONTRACT AT ANY TIME. RIGHT? MY, MY CONCERNS ARE RIGHT NOW THERE'S, THERE'S A NUMBER OF AGREEMENTS THAT ARE SOON TO BE ARBITRATIONS AND, AND, AND WITH THOSE ALONE, UM, TRYING TO RESOLVE THOSE SO THE TOWN'S NOT ON THE HOOK BECAUSE, UM, THE UNWILLINGNESS TO, UH, SIT DOWN AND, AND ANSWER GRIEVANCES AND EVERYTHING ELSE WILL PROBABLY BE THE SAVINGS RIGHT THERE. BUT ANYWAYS, LET'S MOVE TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY ME SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? OPPOSED? NO. NO. MEGAN, YOU SAID NO. YES. THREE, TWO. OKAY. NUMBER 16, PLANNING BOARD ATTORNEY APPOINTMENT WHEREAS RAPHAEL PITA WAS APPROVED, WAS APPOINTED, EXCUSE ME, PLANNING BOARD ATTORNEY FOR 2024 AT THE JANUARY 8TH, 2024 REORGANIZATION MEETING OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, HOWEVER, IS NOW UNABLE TO ACCEPT THIS APPOINTMENT NOW, THEREFORE, IT RESOLVED AT THE TOWN OF HAMBURG. BOARD APPOINT MR. JOSEPH GOGAN AS PLANNING BOARD ATTORNEY FOR ONE YEAR TERM EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, AND THEN DECEMBER 31ST, 2024 AND BE FURTHER RESOLVED THAT MR. JOSEPH GOGAN IS ADDITIONALLY APPOINTED TO HAMBURG HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION. SO MOVED. SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS CARRIED. MR. GOGAN IS HERE WITH US THIS EVENING AND WE'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE HIM AND WELCOME HIM TO THE TEAM. THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS. CONGRATULATIONS. UH, SO NICE TO BE, UH, PART OF THE PLANNING BOARD, UH, TEAM, UH, TOWN ATTORNEY TEAM. I'VE BEEN A LIFELONG, UH, WESTERN NEW YORK RESIDENT. I'VE BEEN IN HAMBURG FOR 25 YEARS. UM, MY SON WAS BORN IN WESTERN NEW YORK, GREW UP IN HAMBURG, PLAYED HOCKEY IN THE HAMBURG HAWKS ORGANIZATION. UH, SO HAMBURG IS IMPORTANT TO ME LIVING IN LIVE IN LAKEVIEW. AND, UH, UH, I'VE BEEN THERE, UH, HOMEOWNER FOR 25 YEARS AGAIN. SO THE, THE PLANNING BOARD IS IMPORTANT TO ME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. EIGHT 18. THERE WE GO. [03:10:01] TOWN GRANTS FUNDING COORDINATION, WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG ACTIVELY PURSUES GRANT AND OTHER FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES. AND WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG SEEKS TO ENSURE ACCURACY, ACCOUNTABILITY, COMPLIANCE, AND CONTINUITY OF COORDINATION FOR ANY AND ALL GRANT AND OTHER FUNDED INITIATIVES. AND WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG HAS A CONTRACT WITH EECG CONSULTING, LLC MARK MILOWSKI FOR CONSULTING SERVICES. THAT INCLUDES STRATEGIC PLANNING, GRANT WRITING, GRANT PROCUREMENT, GRANTS MANAGEMENT, AND PROJECT MANAGEMENT. NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD DIRECTS ALL TOWN GRANT APPLICATIONS, GRANT PROCUREMENT PROCESS AND GRANTS MANAGEMENT COORDINATED BY AND CARRIED OUT BY EECG CONSULTING LLC MARK MALUS. SO MOVED SECOND ON THE QUESTION. I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THIS RESOLUTION AS WELL. UH, I'VE WORKED IN, IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT FOR WELL OVER 20 YEARS AND IT'S OFTEN THE EXPECTATION THAT DEPARTMENT HEADS, UH, WILL PARTICIPATE IN AND OFTEN LEAD STRATEGIC PLANNING INITIATIVES AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR GRANT WRITING AND GRANT MANAGEMENT. WE HAVE SEVERAL DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT CURRENTLY APPLY FOR AND MANAGE THEIR OWN GRANTS. THE YOUTH RECREATION AND SENIOR SERVICES DEPARTMENT HAS OPERATION PRIMETIME GRANTS THAT ARE SMALL IN DOLLAR AMOUNT. UM, OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN APPLYING FOR GRANTS. NICOLE DECA, WHO WORKS WITH OUR YOUTH DEPARTMENT, HAS ANNUAL GRANTS THAT SHE APPLIES FOR AND HAS A TRACK RECORD OF SUCCESS BRINGING THESE FUNDS TO THE PROGRAMS IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG. OUR DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT UNDER LEADERSHIP OF CHRIS HALL AND TIM REAGAN APPLY FOR AND MANAGE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF GRANTS WITHOUT ANY ASSISTANCE FROM MR. MALKI OR ANYBODY ELSE. UH, MS. LAVELL, WHO IS OUR COURT ADMINISTRATOR, APPLIES FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS TO OUR COURTROOMS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, AND AGAIN, HAS A GREAT TRACK RECORD OF BRINGING THOSE GRANTS TO THE TOWN OF HAMBURG WITHOUT ANY ADDITIONAL ASSISTANCE. CERTAINLY NOT ASSISTANCE WHERE WE HAVE TO PAY AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT $60 AN HOUR TO COORDINATE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, PROPOSE A SERIES OF AMENDMENTS TO THIS RESOLUTION. UH, ONE WOULD BE TO STRIKE UNDER THE THEREFORE CLAUSE THAT THE TOWN BOARD DIRECTS ALL GRANT APPLICATIONS, THE GRANT PROCUREMENT PROCESS TO, TO STRIKE ALL FROM, UH, THE TOWN GRANT APPLICATIONS TO STRIKE THE GRANT PROCUREMENT PROCESS. THERE'S CERTAINLY A ROLE FOR MR. MAKI AND HE CERTAINLY HAS A SKILL SET THAT IS VALUABLE TO THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, BUT THE ENTIRE PROCESS DOES NOT NEED TO BE MANAGED BY HIM AT $60 AN HOUR WHEN WE HAVE CAPABLE TOWN EMPLOYEES WHO ARE READY AND WILLING TO DO AND HAVE A RECORD OF SUCCESS IN DOING THAT WORK. THAT ALSO GOES FOR GRANTS MANAGEMENT. UH, MR. MAKI HAS A VERY IMPORTANT ROLE HERE IN ADDITION TO STRIKING THE ALL AND THE, THE, THE FOLLOWING. UM, UH, PERHAPS WE COULD ADD A THE TOWN OF HAMBURG. UH, WELL, I'D JUST LIKE TO STRIKE ALL FROM THAT SENTENCE. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO OFFER A, UH, AMENDMENT THAT WOULD REQUIRE MR. MALKI TO MAKE HIMSELF AVAILABLE IN PERSON FOR GRANT PRESENTATION APPLICATIONS. THE TOWN OF HAMBURG APPLIED FOR A DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION INITIATIVE GRANT. UH, AND WE HAD PORT APPEARED BEFORE, UH, THE PROVING BODY OF THAT GRANT WITH OTHER TOWNS LIKE AMHERST AND CHEEK AT THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURG. UH, AND THEY BROUGHT A TEAM OF CONSULTANTS TO MAKE THEIR PITCH. THESE FOLKS PUT ON THEIR BEST SUIT AND MADE THEIR BEST PRESENTATION IN PERSON TO THOSE BODIES. WE DID NOT GET A GRANT THAT YEAR, AND I'M NOT SAYING IT BECAUSE MR. MALKI WASN'T THERE. UM, BUT WE REALLY NEED SOMEBODY THAT WE CAN SEE SOMEBODY THAT CAN ATTEND THESE MEETINGS IN PERSON. AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO AMEND THIS TO INCLUDE THAT, UH, MR. MALKI REPORT IN PERSON TO TOWN BOARD MEETINGS AS REQUESTED AND TO REPORT TO TOWN HALL FOR MONTHLY MEETINGS IN PERSON. IF WE'RE GONNA BE PAYING $60,000 TO A CONSULTANT, IT SHOULD BE SOMEBODY THAT WE CAN LAY EYES ON THAT I CAN SHAKE HIS HAND SO THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER. SO I KNOW I PUT, UH, A BUNCH OF AMENDMENTS IN THERE. OKAY. UH, BUT ADDITIONALLY, UH, MY CONCERNS ARE THAT, UM, SOME OF THESE REQUIRE SPECIALIZED MONITORING AND REPORTING SOME OF THESE GRANTS THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER, AND THAT MONITORING REPORTING IS BEST DONE BY THE DEPARTMENT HEADS. SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THIS RESOLUTION, TO STRIKE THE WORD ALL FROM TOWN GRANT [03:15:01] APPLICATIONS AND TO ADD THE REQUIREMENT THAT MR. MALKI, WHEN REQUESTED, MAKE HIMSELF AVAILABLE FOR GRANT APPLICATIONS, TO ATTEND TOWN BOARD MEETINGS, FOR PRESENTATIONS, AND FOR AT LEAST MONTHLY IN-PERSON MEETINGS AS REQUESTED BY THE SUPERVISOR. SO MOVED. SECOND, I'D LIKE TO OFFER ANOTHER AMENDMENT BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE HAS BEEN, UM, TIMES IN THE PAST WHEN HAVING COORDINATION, I AGREE WITH THE AMENDMENT THAT IT SHOULD NOT COMMU, UH, INCLUDE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. THERE ARE CERTAIN HUD REGULATIONS THERE AND THEY ARE SEPARATE. THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED THERE. I DO BELIEVE THAT THE COORDINATION DOES NOT MEAN THAT THERE AREN'T, UM, TIMES WHEN DEPARTMENT HEADS, ET CETERA WON'T DO ASPECTS AS HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST. BUT AN IMPORTANT PART IN THE PAST WAS THE COORDINATION. THERE ARE A LOT OF COMPLIANCE ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED, AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME SITUATIONS RECENTLY WHEN SOME OF THOSE COMPLIANCE ISSUES BY NOT BEING ADDRESSED, COST THE TOWN MONEY AND GRANT OPPORTUNITIES. UM, I CAN APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS YOU MADE ABOUT IN PERSON, BUT THAT PARTICULAR TEAM MEETING, EVERYONE WAS BY ZOOM ALSO, I BELIEVE HE HAS BEEN, BEEN AVAILABLE BY ZOOM. MANY OF THE MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE ARE ALL BY ZOOM. UM, I DO BELIEVE THAT WE NEED SOMEONE CENTRAL WHO'S COORDINATING IT. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE, UH, AS WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST THAT HE'S NOT WORKING WITH DEPARTMENT HEADS. THAT HAS HAPPENED ON AN ONGOING BASIS, BUT THERE DOES NEED TO BE THE COORDINATION SO THAT AN INDIVIDUAL'S MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE MEETING ALL OF THOSE COMPLIANCE BENCHMARKS AND THAT ALL, ALL OF THE, UM, GRANTS, GRANTS THAT WE'RE APPLYING FOR ARE, UM, PIGGYBACKING OFF OF EACH OTHER, UM, APPROPRIATELY. AND THAT ALSO IS AN IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THE, OF THE STRATEGIC PLANNING. IT BY NO MEANS EVER MEANT AS IT NEVER DID IN THE PAST, THAT THE DEPARTMENT HEADS WEREN'T INVOLVED. THEY WERE ALL ACTIVELY INVOLVED. IT WORKED BEAUTIFULLY. BUT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME GLITCHES WHEN WE DON'T HAVE A CENTRALIZED PERSON, UM, TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE THOSE COMPLIANCE, UM, PIECES COMPLETED THE WAY THEY NEED TO BE COMPLETED. AND I AM CONCERNED BY SOME OF THE GRANTS THAT WE DID LOSE OUT ON BECAUSE OF THAT. I HAVE A QUESTION. CAN, CAN WE JUST MAYBE TABLE THIS SO WE CAN GO THROUGH IT AND, AND, AND COME UP WITH A RESOLUTION? THAT'D BE YOU. YOU AGREE WITH? I SECOND THE MOTION TO TABLE. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS. WE HAVE THREE AYES. AYE. FOUR AYES. FIVE AYES. THANK YOU. WHEREAS THE TOWN OF SANDBERG IS A MEMBER OF THE ASSOCIATION OF TOWNS OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK. AND WHEREAS THE 2024 ANNUAL MEETING AND TRAINING SCHOOL IS BEING HELD FEBRUARY 18TH THROUGH 21ST, 2024 IN NEW YORK CITY. AND WHEREAS ACTUAL AND NECESSARY EXPENSES INCURRED IN ATTENDING THE SCHOOL INCLUDING THE REGISTRATION FEE ARE PROPER MUNICIPAL CHARGES UNDER TOWN LAW 1 16 12 AND GENERAL MUNICIPAL LAW 77 B AND THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THE TOWN BOARD DOES HEREBY AUTHORIZE COUNCIL MEMBERS, ELIZABETH FERRELL LORENZ, MEGAN COMERFORD, AND DAN CO. OF TO ATTEND THE ASSOCIATION OF TOWNS OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK ANNUAL MEETING AND TRAINING SCHOOL WITH THE FOLLOWING EXPENSES, REGISTRATION $150 HOTEL AT 3 0 8 PER NIGHT, UH, FOUR DAYS OF MEALS AT $50 A DAY AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES EITHER MILEAGE REIMBURSEMENT AND PARKING OR PLANE FAIR AND GROUND TRANSPORTATION TO TRAVEL TO AND FROM THE MEETING AND TRAINING SCHOOL FUNDS AVAILABLE ON A1 0 1 0 0.0492. SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS CARRIED RESULT OF THE TO BOARD. APPROVALS OF HIRING OF THE FOLLOWING EMPLOYEES AND THE BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS DEPARTMENT AND IT'S LISTED. SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE BY SAYING AYE. A. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS CARRIED. NOW THAT TAKES US TO 20, WHEREAS IN CONSULTATION WITH THE TOWN OF HAMBURG FIRE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION IS DETERMINED THERE IS A CONTINUED NEED FOR SUPPLEMENTAL EMERGENCY AMBULANCE SERVICES IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG IN ORDER TO ENSURE RESIDENTS RECEIVE APPROPRIATE EMS SERVICES WHEN REQUIRED AS A RESULT OF INJURY OR ILLNESS. WHEREAS THE TOWN SUPERVISOR, TOWN ATTORNEY IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PERSONNEL HAVE BEEN NEGOTIATING NEW CONTRACT WITH THE SALE AMBULANCE D-B-A-A-M-R OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST YEAR. AND WHEREAS THE NEGOTIATIONS HAVE BEEN POSITIVE, COLLABORATIVE, FRUITFUL AND INFORMED OF THE VOLUNTEER FIRE AGENCIES WORKING WITHIN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG. AND WHEREAS THE MUNICIPALITY IS A POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THE STATE WITH THE AUTHORITY OVER PRE-HOSPITAL EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES WITHIN ITS JURISDICTION. WHEREAS LASELLE AMBULANCE IN INCORPORATED [03:20:01] D-B-A-A-M-R IS A LICENSED PROVIDER OF HIGH QUALITY EMS WITH THE CAPABILITY TO PROVIDE EMS SERVICES WITHIN THE TOWN'S JURISDICTION, THEREFORE BE RESOLVED. THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF VAN AUTHORIZED A SUPERVISOR TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT ATTACHED HERE TO WITH A MR FOR A THREE YEAR TERM FROM JANUARY 1ST, 2023 THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2026. SO MOVED. I'D LIKE TO LIKE TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT SECOND, UH, THE AMENDMENT. WE HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER COZA OFFER AMENDMENT. THE AMENDMENT WOULD BE TO ADD TO THE END AS PER DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD DURING THE WORK SESSION. IT WOULD BE TO ADD SUBJECT TO REVIEW BY LEGAL AND AJ GALLAGHER AND ANY NECESSARY AMENDMENTS SOLELY RELATED TO INSURANCE OR LOSS TRANSFER REQUIREMENTS. I'LL SECOND THE AMENDMENT. ALL IN FAVOR TO THE AMENDMENT PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS CARRIED THE ORIGINAL MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? AMENDMENT CARRIED. BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVE THE OUT OF TOWN TRIBAL REQUESTS FOR THE TOWN ATTORNEY KENNETH J. FARRELL AND JOSEPH GOGAN. PLANNING BOARD ATTORNEY TO ATTEND THE NEW YORK STATE ASSOCIATION TOWNS TRAINING SCHOOL AND THE ANNUAL MEETING IN NEW YORK CITY FROM FEBRUARY 18TH, 2024 TO FEBRUARY 21ST. 2024 THE ATTORNEYS WILL BE ATTENDING SESSIONS PERTINENT TO THE FUNCTIONS OF TOWN GOVERNMENT. THE ESTIMATE COST IS $25,000. AND THE FUND, OH SORRY. $2,500 THANK YOU FUNDS FOR THIS PURPOSE WILL BE TRANSFERRED FROM A 1 9 9 0 4 1 9 CONTINGENCY TO A 1 4 2 0 4 9 2 TRAINING AND SEMINARS. THE ACTUAL RECEIPT SHALL BE SUBMITTED FOLLOWING THE ATTENDANCE OF THE TRAINING SCHOOL SLASH ANNUAL MEETING FOR THE REIMBURSEMENT OF THE AFOREMENTIONED ACCOUNT. AND FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE FROM GENERAL FUND A FUND BALANCE. SO MOVED. I ACTUALLY HAVE SOMETHING ON THE QUESTION. PAT, WE WERE IN EMAIL SECOND. THANKS. WE WERE IN EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE ABOUT THIS, THIS, THE ACCOUNTS I KNOW WERE IN QUESTION WHEN THEY WERE INITIALLY SUBMITTED. CORRECT. THE UH OKAY. INITIAL REQUEST WAS TAKE IT FROM CONTINGENCY ACCOUNT. RIGHT. THE DECISION WAS MADE TO TAKE IT FROM THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH I BELIEVE IS THE LAST PHRASE IN THE RESOLUTION. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS CARRIED. THANKS FOR CLEARING ABOUT THAT PAF. YOUTH RECREATION AND SENIOR SERVICES BE IT RESOLVED AT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVED TERMINATION AND HIRING OF PERSONNEL OF THE DEPARTMENT OF YOUTH RECREATION SENIOR SERVICES AS FOLLOWED AS LISTED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS. CARRIED. WHEREAS EE COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENT AND PLANNING ANNOUNCED THE AVAILABILITY OF A TOTAL OF $350,000 FOR MUNICIPALITIES FOR THE PURPOSES OF CREATING AND UPDATING MUNICIPAL PLANNING DOCUMENTS AND UNDERTAKING PLANNING AND RELATED STUDIES FOCUSED ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND WHEREAS THE INTENT OF THESE FUNDS IS TO ADDRESS EMERGING ISSUES COMPREHENSIVELY PLAN FOR MUNICIPALITIES AND CONDUCT A PLANNING NECESSARY TO BETTER ADDRESS COMMUNITY NEEDS AND IMPROVE THE TAX BASE. AND WHEREAS TOWN OF HAMBURG HAS THE FUNDING AVAILABLE FROM A PREVIOUS CONTRACT OF GO BIKE, FROM OUR ACTIVE MOBILITY PLAN AGREEMENT AND AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDS. AND WHEREAS THE INTERSECTION OF LAKE AVENUE AND SOUTH PARK HAS BECOME A HIGH PRIORITY INTERSECTION FOR SAFETY INTERVENTIONS, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THE TWO FATALITIES OF MARGARET O'NEILL IN 2019. SANDRA BREZINSKI AT 2023 NEAR THE OUR MOTHER OF GOOD COUNCIL SENIOR LIVING FACILITIES AND WHEREAS TOWN OF HAMBURG HAS RECEIVED NOTIFICATION OF A $20,000 AWARD FROM ERIE COUNTY WITH A $20,000 MATCH FROM THE TOWN TO COMMISSION A CORRIDOR PLAN FOR LAKE AVENUE TO ENFOR, ENHANCE SAFETY AND STREET VITALITY FROM SOUTH PARK AVENUE NEW MCKINLEY PARKWAY. AND WHEREAS THIS PROJECT IS IN DIRECT CONTINUITY WITH THE ACTIVE MOBILITY ACTION PLAN AND THE TRAFFIC STUDIES AND WALK AUDIT AT LAKE AVENUE IN SOUTH PARK COMPLETED BY GO BIKE BUFFALO. AND THEY HAVE PROVIDED A SCOPE OF WORK FOR THIS PROJECT, THEREFORE VIA RESOLVED OF THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES SUPERVISOR SENT TO IN AN INTERM MUNICIPAL AGREEMENT WITH ERIE COUNTY TO ACCEPT THE $20,000 IN FUNDING WITH $20,000 TOWN MATCH AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THREE SIGNED HARD COPIES OF ONE SCAN DIGITAL COPY OF THIS AGREEMENT AND THREE SIGNED HARD COPIES OF EQUAL PAY CERTIFICATION WILL BE SENT TO ERIE COUNTY TO FULFILL THE REQUIREMENTS OF ACCEPTING THE GRANT. BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT GOBI WILL BE UTILIZED FOR THE CREATION OF THE QUARTER PLAN AND ITS REQUIRED COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND DEMONSTRATION EFFORTS. SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS CARRIED. WHEREAS JAY PASCARELLA PURCHASED MACKENZIE'S RESTAURANT IN HAMBURG NINE YEARS AGO AFTER SPENDING A DECADE IN LAS VEGAS AS FOOD AND BEVERAGE MANAGER FOR PLANET HOLLYWOOD RESORT CASINO. AND WHEREAS IN THREE WEEKS HE TURNED HIS PASSION PROJECT INTO LUCIA'S ON THE LAKE NAMED AFTER HIS 2-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER. AND WHEREAS [03:25:01] WHEN HE REOPENED THE DOORS OF , HE RETAINED EVERY STAFF MEMBER AT THE TIME AND FOUR OF HIS CURRENT STAFF MEMBERS HAVE BEEN WITH HIM SINCE DAY ONE. AND WHEREAS THE MENU DELIVERS CLASSIC FLAVORS AND DISHES THAT ARE COMFORTABLE AND TIMELESS ALONGSIDE ITALIAN CLASSICS EMBRACING HIS CULTURE AND THE RESTAURANT HE GREW UP IN. AND WHEREAS HE AND HIS TEAM OF 47 FOCUS ON QUALITY DAILY. AND WHEREAS THE RESTAURANT IS WRAPPED IN GLASS FOR PANORAMIC VIEWS TO ENHANCE EVERY PART OF YOUR EXPERIENCE. AND WHEREAS LUCIA'S HONORS THE HISTORY OF THE 100-YEAR-OLD BUILDING BY KEEPING A BAR, WHICH IS FABRICATED IN IRELAND AND SHIPPED TO HAMBURG OVER FOUR DECADES AGO NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED, THE TOWN OF HAMBURG IS HEREBY RECOGNIZED JAY PASCARELLA AND LUCIA'S ON THE LAKE FOR BEING SELECTED AS ONE OF THE TOP 100 RESTAURANTS IN THE UNITED STATES BY OPENTABLE AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT WE THANK THEM FOR THE LOVE OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE TOWN THAT FRIENDSHIP BUILT AND DEDICATION TO LUCIA'S STAFF AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE JOHN HAMBURG OFFERS THEIR APPRECIATION TO JAY PASCOAL FOR HIS COMMITMENT TO THE TOWN AND ITS RESIDENCE. SOMO UNANIMOUS. SECOND. SECOND. A UNANIMOUS SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS CARRIED. WHEREAS ON FEBRUARY 23RD, 2009, THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG PASSED LOCAL LAW NUMBER ONE 2009. THAT MANDATES A MINIMUM OF FOUR HOURS OF TRAINING PER YEAR FOR MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING BOARD AND ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. AND WHEREAS SECTION SIX OF SAID LAW PROVIDES A TRAINING RECEIPT BY A MEMBER IN EXCESS OF FOUR HOURS AND ANY ONE YEAR MAY BE CARRIED OVER INTO THE SUCCEEDING YEAR UPON THE APPROVAL OF THE TOWN BOARD AND WHEREAS THE FOLLOWING MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING BOARD AND ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS HAVE EXCEEDED THE FOUR HOURS OF REQUIRED TRAINING FOR 2023 AS FOLLOWS, ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS DI FULL 0.5. NICOLE FALCO 0.5. LAURA HAN 2.0 PLANNING BOARD DENNIS CHAPMAN 1.0. CAITLIN MC, MCCORMICK 0.5. DAN SCHWEIK, 0.5, CINDY GRO AND TWO, NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED. THE TONE BOARD APPROVED THE CARRY OF UP TO TWO HOURS OF TRAINING IS LISTED ABOVE FOR THE APPLICABLE MEMBERS TO APPLY FOR THE 2024 REQUIREMENTS FOR MANDATORY TRAINING. SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS CARRIED. WHEREAS TOWN OF HAM RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM JEFFREY ZIMMER TO REZONE 0.7 ACRES OF LAND SB NUMBER ONE SIXTY EIGHT TWO SIX ONE ONE SIXTY TWO TEN ONE ONE SIXTY EIGHT DASH 2 17 1 68 2 14, 1 68 DASH TWO 13 AND 1 68 DASH TWO LOCATED 35 20 ABBOTT ROAD, 51 20 STEWART ROAD IN BACON PARCELS OF ER ROAD FROM R TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE DISTRICT TO C ONE LOCAL RETAIL DISTRICT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A 5,700 SQUARE FOOT COMMERCIAL BUILDING. WHEREAS PURSUANT TO PART 6 1 7 OF THE IMPLEMENTING REGULATIONS PERTAINING TO ARTICLE EIGHT STATE ENVIRONMENTAL WATER REVIEW ACT OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION LAW, THE HAMRICK TOWN BOARD HAS ESTABLISHED ITSELF A SEEKER LEAD AGENCY AND CONDUCTED A COORDINATED ENVIRONMENTAL SEEKER REVIEW FOR THIS TYPE ONE ACTION. AND WHEREAS THE TOWN BOARD HAS COMPLETED THE FEAF PARTS ONE, TWO, AND THREE AND SOLICITED INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC AND FROM OTHER INVOLVED AND INTERESTED AGENCIES AND IT'S TAKEN A HARD LOOK AT THE SOCIAL, ECONOMIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS OF THE ADOPTION OF PRO PROPOSED ZONINGS. AND WHEREAS THE FINDINGS OF THIS REVIEW INDICATE THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGES AND COMMERCIAL BUILDING WILL NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE NATURAL RESOURCES OF THE STATE AND OR THE HEALTH SAFETY AND WELL FOR THE PUBLIC NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN HEMBRY TOWN BOARD IS SECRET LEAD AGENCY FOR THIS ACTION IS GERMAN THE OPTION OF THE TOWN OF HEMBRY ZONING. JAY AGENCY COMMERCIAL BUILDING WILL NOT RESOLVE IN ANY SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE ENVIRONMENT AND IN NEGATIVE DECLARATIONS HEREBY ISSUED BASED ON THE REASONS THAT SET FORTH IN THE FULL ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM AND BE FINAL RESOLVED THAT THE DOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES DOWN SUPERVISOR TO SIGN THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM, WHICH WILL ACT AS A SECRET NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND AUTHORIZE THE APPROPRIATE NOTICES AND FILINGS BE MADE. SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS CARRIED. WHEREAS HAMBURG TOWN CODE CONTAINS AND SPECIFIES THE LOCAL LAWS AND NORMS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG AND WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM JEFFREY ZIMMER TO REZONE 0.7 ACRES OF LAND SBL NUMBER 1 68 2 6 1 62 1 60 0 8 DASH 2 17 1 68 DASH TWO DASH 14, 1 68 DASH TWO 13 AND 1 60 0 8 DASH TWO DASH FIVE LOCATED AT 35 20 ABBOT ROAD, 51 20 STEWART ROAD IN VACANT PARCELS ON MILES STRIP ROAD FROM R TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE DISTRICT TO C ONE LOCAL RETAIL DISTRICT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF 57 HOMES SQUARE FOR COMMERCIAL BUILDING. AND WHEREAS AMBRY PLANNING BOARD REVIEWED THE REZONING REQUEST AND RECOMMENDED ON SEPTEMBER 20TH, 2023 THAT THESE REZONING REQUESTS BE APPROVED. WHEREAS PURSUANT TO PART 6 1 7 6 N-Y-C-R-R ARTICLE EIGHT OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION LAW, THE TOWN OF HEMBRY TOWN BOARD ESTABLISHED ITSELF A SECRET LEAD AGENCY AND CONDUCTED A COORDINATED REVIEW OF PROPOSED REVISIONS OF THE TOWN CODE CHAPTER TWO 80 ZONING AND TOWN ZONE MAP IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE STATE ENVIRONMENTAL LOTTERY REVIEW ACT AND HAS ISSUED A SECRET NEGATIVE DECLARATION. AND WHEREAS PUBLIC HEARING WAS [03:30:01] HELD REGARDING THE ZONING CODE AND ZONING MAP REVISIONS ON NOVEMBER 26TH, 2023 AND DUE TO A PUBLICATION ISSUE WAS CONTINUED UNTIL DECEMBER 11TH, 2023 AND COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC AND FROM ERIE COUNTY BASED ON A 2 39 M REFERRAL. WHEREAS RY TOWN BOARD HAS DETERMINED THAT PROPOSED NEGATIVE REZONING WILL NOT RESULT IN ANY SIGNIFICANT NEGATIVE IMPACT OF THE ENVIRONMENT IS ISSUED A NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND THE REZONING IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TOWN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. NOW THEREFORE BE A RESOLVED. THE DIAMOND FAMILY TOWN BOARD HEREBY REZONES OF PROPERTY IDENTIFIED FROM R TWO TO C ONE WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. ONE OFFENSE SHALL BE INSTALLED BETWEEN THE C ONE DISTRICT AND THE ADJOINING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES TO APPROVED ON THE SITE PLAN. TWO, THE FOLLOWINGS SHALL NOT BE PERMITTED, WILL NEED DEED RESTRICTIONS TO BE PERMITTED, DRIVE-THROUGHS, ALCOHOL SALES, OUTDOOR STORAGE, DRY CLEANING FACILITIES, HOTELS AND MOTELS BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THE ZONING CODE OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG BE AMENDED AS FOLLOWS TO AMEND LOCAL LAW AND PRETENDED THE YEAR 1986 OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, CHAPTER TWO 80 ENTITLED ZONING TO PROVIDE FOR A CHANGE IN THE BOUNDARY OF THE ZONING MAP WHEREBY THE ZONING HAS CHANGED FROM R TWO TO C ONE FOR THE PROPERTIES ENTERED DIVIDE BY THE SVL NUMBERS AS LISTED. SO MOVED. SECOND QUESTION, CLARIFYING QUESTION. UM, DID YOU ATE, UH, THE LAST MEETING STATED THAT ONE OF THE TWO THEY WANTED TO LOOK AT FOR THE CONDITIONS WAS ALCOHOL SALES. MM-HMM . UM, AND THEY WERE ASKING WHETHER NOT YOU GUYS GONNA LEAVE IT IN OR TAKE IT OUT. IF YOU LEAVE IT IN, THEN WE BE NO SOLVE IT. THERE WILL BE NO ALCOHOL SALES. TAKE IT OUT. UM, THEY WOULD NEED TO GET A VARIANCE TO HAVE ALCOHOL SALES BECAUSE THEY BUCKS HOUR ONE DISTRICT, UM, THEY HAVE TO GET USE VARIANCE, WHICH IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT. BUT JUST ON TO FILL IT OUT THERE TO ASK, ARE YOU MOVE IN SUPERVISOR LK? I I REPRESENT MR. I CAN SPEAK ON THIS A LITTLE MORE IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO. SURE. SO WE VIEW THAT CORNER AS A POTENTIAL. SORRY, WHAT WAS YOUR NAME, SIR? TOM LEY. MY NAME REPRESENT MR. ZI IN, IN THIS PROJECT. SO WE VIEW THAT CORNER AS THE POTENTIAL TO HAVE A RESTAURANT OR A WINE BAR OR A CAFE, A A WALKABLE SPACE FOR THE COMMUNITY. WE'RE HAPPY TO ACCEPT THAT A LIQUOR STORE WOULD BE A BAD IDEA THAT CORNER, BUT TO, TO TAKE AWAY ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION OR, OR A RESTAURANT OR A CAFE OR A BAR OR A WINE AREA. WE, WE FEEL THAT THAT SHOULD BE, SO WE ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER ALCOHOLS CONSUMPTION BE AND SALE BE ALLOWED IN THAT AREA. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, ACTUALLY THAT WAS, UH, MY, ONE OF MY QUESTIONS, UH, MAY UM, IT IT'S GONNA BE COMING IN OFF OF, UM, STEWART ROAD GOING IN THERE. THE FACILITIES ONLY. I, I, UM, SO BIG. SO I MEAN THE, I AND THAT WAS MY THOUGHT. IF YOU WERE PUTTING A DINER IN THERE OR SOMETHING TO THAT NATURE, WHY WOULDN'T YOU ALLOW THEM TO HAVE WINE OR SOMETHING TO THAT NATURE IN THERE? I MEAN, IS IT, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD CHANGE DOWN THE ROAD IF THEY DO PUT A DINER IN AND, AND, AND, AND ALLOW IT? OR, OR IS THIS A DONE ONCE WE WRITE THIS, IT'S DONE AND AND OVER? IS THERE ANY WAY, JOSH, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING, YOU'RE TALKING ALCOHOL SALES FOR LIKE A DINER, BUT IS THERE ANY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A DINER AND A PUP THAT HEAVILY FOCUSES ON ALCOHOL SALES WITH THE OCCASIONAL CHICKEN WING? LIKE I DON'T THINK THAT'S QUITE WHAT THE NEIGHBORS WERE EXPECTING. UM, WE'RE HAPPY TO AGREE TO NOT HAVING A PUB THERE. THE, THE FURTHEST WE WOULD WANT TO GO IS A RESTAURANT, A NICE DINING ESTABLISHMENT. NOT THAT WE HAVE A PLAN TO PUT THAT THERE, A PUB THAT'S OPEN UNTIL MIDNIGHT. WE'RE HAPPY TO AGREE THAT THE NOT PUT THERE BUT AN ITALIAN RESTAURANT, SOMETHING SOME FORM OF, OF NICE DINING. WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE OPTION TO PUT THERE. I'LL DEFER TO THE LEGAL TALK TO THE TOWN ATTORNEY, BUT WE CAN PUT IN A CONDITION THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, THIS RESTAURANT, OUR FUTURE INCOME SITE PLAN WILL NOT HAVE BEEN LISTED OUT. BUT SPECIFICALLY I'M JUST THINKING WITH IT BEING R ONE AND A BUDDING SO CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL, BUT YET BEING VERY CLOSE TO THE NEW STADIUM, NO MATTER WHAT, THEY'LL HAVE TO SURE GET EXPERIENCE. I JUST WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE IT BECOME LIKE A PARKING LOT TAILGATE DESTINATION PRE AND POST GAME AND CREATE A NUISANCE. I KNOW THOSE NEIGHBORS HAVE ALREADY HAD A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF CONCERNS OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS REGARDING, UM, PATRONS WHO ARE GOING TO THE GAME, COMING INTO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND TAILGATING AND PARTYING IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. RIGHT. I'M JUST MINDFUL OF THAT. THEY'VE BEEN HERE SEVERAL TIMES WITH THOSE CONCERNS OF, AND I DON'T WANT PERHAPS YOUR , THEY MAY BE SUPER WELL INTENTIONED, BUT WHAT IF YOU DON'T OWN IT AND IN FIVE YEARS SOMEBODY ELSE COMES IN, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE RUNNING THAT PIECE OF PART, THAT PRODUCT. SO WITH THIS SAME INTENTION AND INTEGRITY THAT YOU WE'RE HAPPY TO PUT THAT IN ANY LEASE. IF WE WERE TO LEASE IT TO SOME FORM OF RESTAURANT, WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE AMENT TO PUT THAT IN THE LEASE. THAT KIND OF, [03:35:01] IS THAT THERE, UM, LIKE THE MANS IN CLOSE BY THAT RESTAURANT? I'M UNSURE. IT'S FURTHER DOWN. IT'S ABOUT ANOTHER, YOU GOTTA CROSS QUARTER MILE OR SOMETHING. YEAH, YOU GOTTA CROSS MILE STRIP AND IT'S ANOTHER HIKE DOWN. SURE. JOSH, ARE WE ABLE TO SAY, UM, THIS IS CLOSER TO THE NO LIQUOR STORE AND THEN ALSO PUT IN CONDITIONS SPECIFIC PLACE THERE, RESTAURANT VERSUS CLOUD TO YOUR DISCRETION. IF TOWN BOARD IS CONSIDERING AMENDMENT TO THE CURRENT RESOLUTION NUMBER 27, IT MIGHT CONSIDER IN SUBPARAGRAPH TWO TO NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED. SECOND ITEM OF ALCOHOL SALES COULD POSSIBLY WORD IT AS ALCOHOL SALES, EXCEPT THAT'S PRECLUDED EXCEPT STRICTLY RELATED TO A, UH, OR SOLELY RELATED TO AN OPERATION OF A RESTAURANT AFTER FULL APPROVAL BY THE STATE NEW YORK STATE BOARD OF, OR SORRY, LIQUOR AUTHORITY, NEW YORK STATE LIQUOR AUTHORITY. AND AFTER THE GRANTING OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT POSSIBLY OR AT LEASE FURTHER DOWN OR, WELL, IT HAS TO GET A SPECIAL USE PERMIT 'CAUSE IT'S UP AGAINST R ONE. RIGHT. I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF FURTHER TELL BOARD APPROVAL THOUGH. 'CAUSE THAT WOULD ALL ALLOW ANY YEAH, THAT WOULD CLARIFY EXACTLY. THAT WOULD COME BACK TO MAKE AN INITIAL APPLICATION, WHICH, WHICH YOU'RE ASKING FOR, WHICH WOULD CLARIFY EXACTLY WHAT THE PROJECT WOULD PROPOSE. IT WOULD BE WHETHER CONSTRUCTION OR, OR NEW BUSINESS AND CONSTRUCTIVE BUILDING, WHATEVER. UH, THE SUP IS THAT CORRECT? IT'S ALREADY REQUIRED FOR THE WHOLE PROJECT ANYWAY. SO BE PART OF IT DOESN'T NEED A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, BUT NO MATTER WHAT GOES IN THERE, WHETHER IT'S A RESTAURANT OR WHETHER IT'S A RETAIL CENTER, IF THEY WANTED TO HAVE ALCOHOL SKILLS RIGHT. THEY NEED TO GET A VARIANCE FROM THE IT HAS TO BE USE. OKAY. YEAH. THAT, AND MS. JOSS ALREADY MENTIONED, CORRECT. THERE'S TWO FORM OF VARIANCES. THERE'S AREA VARIANCE USE IS THE BAR FOR ACQUIRING, OBTAINING USE. VARIANCE IS MUCH HIGHER STANDARD IN TERMS OF WHAT'S REQUIRED TO RECEIVE AT VARIANCE GRANTED FROM THE ZONING BOARD OF HEELS. SO YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF PROTECTIONS BUILT IN THERE. YOU COULD ADD SOME LANGUAGE THAT SUGGESTED IF YOUR FED IS OR PRODUCT AND YOU COULD ACTUALLY SPECIFICALLY SAY NO LIQUOR STORE. YOU COULD ADD THAT LANGUAGE TOO TO TO THE, THE RESOLUTION AS THAT'S THE, THE CURRENT RESOLUTION THAT YOU'RE CONSIDER. WHAT DO YOU THINK, JOSH? WHAT'S YOUR OPINION? I THINK YOU COULD ADD SPECIFICALLY WHAT YOU DON'T WANT. IF YOU DON'T WANT IT TO BE A LIQUOR STORE. IF YOU DON'T WANT IT TO BE A PLUG, PUT THAT LANGUAGE IN THERE AND THEN, UM, LIKE THE TIME ATTORNEY SAID, UM, YOU HAVE A LOT OF PROTECTIONS FROM, THEY'RE GONNA NEED A VARIANCE NO MATTER WHAT IT IS. UM, SO I THINK PUT IN THAT LANGUAGE OF SPECIFICALLY WHAT YOU DON'T WANT YOU, THE RIGHT'S THE SAME. AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE TO GO GET A VARIANCE ANYWAYS. THERE'S A NUMBER OF PROTECTIONS FOR THE ADJOINING RESIDE, RESIDENTIAL , AND WITH THE VARIANCE COMES A PUBLIC HEARING. ABSOLUTELY. SO IT GIVES THE RESIDENTS AN OPPORTUNITY, EVEN IF 20 YEARS FROM NOW SOMEBODY COMES IN THERE, THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOICE A CONCERN, COUNTY'S GOING TO HAVE HANDS-ON APPROVAL. IT'S WHETHER I SUGGESTED, EXCUSE ME EARLIER, THAT YOU HAVE TUM APPROVAL, YOU'VE DELEGATED THAT FUNCTION TO THE ZBA. THEY'RE REQUIRED TO GET A VERY DIFFICULT VARIANCE. SO THAT'S IN THERE. IF YOU DON'T WANNA ADD THE ADDITIONAL PROOF FROM THE TOWN BOARD THAT'S FUNCTION BEEN DELEGATED, THEY'RE GONNA GO THROUGH A PUBLIC HEARING. I WOULD, I WOULD ONLY SIMPLY ADD TO WHAT KEN AND JOSH HAVE ALREADY PUT OUT ALL THOSE PROTECTIONS THAT ARE BUILT IN AS PART OF THE ZBA PROCESS WITH YOUR RIGHT TO FINAL APPROVAL. BUT YOU CAN ALSO DESIGNATE AS ONE OF THOSE CONDITIONS, THE SPECIFIC TYPE OF SLA APPLICATION THAT'S PERMITTED. SO YOU CAN LIMIT IT TO AN SLA APPLICATION THAT WOULD ALLOW ONLY DRINKS TO BE SERVED ON PREMISES AS PART OF A RESTAURANT ESTABLISHMENT. SO MM-HMM . THAT SOUNDS GOOD. DIDN'T YOU PUT LIKE THE, AN ONLY SERVE UNTIL CERTAIN TIME, AMOUNT OF TIME OR SOMETHING YOU, YOU'D BE PERMITTED THROUGH THAT ZDA APPLICATION PROCESS. YOU PUT IN WHATEVER CONDITIONS YOU FEEL ARE APPROPRIATE AND THE STATE LIQUOR AUTHORITY PERMIT COULD BE FOR JUST TO BE WINES OF FOLKS, RIGHT? WELL, MOST DINERS ARE ONLY, YOUR RESTAURANTS ARE ONLY OPEN TILL, YOU KNOW, DINNER TIME SAY NINE, 10 O'CLOCK. SO, I MEAN, IF YOU DON'T WANT IT TO BE A PUB, YOU WOULD SAY NO ALCOHOL PAST 10 O'CLOCK OR SOMETHING. THAT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HARD, HARD ALCOHOL LIKE A, LIKE A WHISKEY AND SODA, RIGHT? BEER AND WINE. OR A RESTAURANT CAN ASK FOR A PERMIT FROM THE STATE LIQUOR AUTHORITY FOR JUST BEER AND WINE AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, THE ZBA. THE ZBA COULD DESIGNATE A NUMBER OF THINGS, INCLUDING THE SPECIFIC TYPE OF PERMIT THAT THEY WOULD ALLOW FROM THE STATE SLA AND THEY COULD ALSO GO BEYOND THAT FRANKLY TO WHAT ADDITIONAL TIME PLACE ON RESTRICTIONS TO SOME EXTENT. SO ARE THESE REASON, SO ARE THESE AMENDMENTS WE CAN PUT TOGETHER NOW OR DO WE NEED TO TABLE THIS SO THAT THAT CAN BE CRAFTED BY THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND, AND WE I'D PROBABLY PREFER TO TABLE IT. THAT WOULD BE EASIER TO HANDLE IT THAT WAY, BUT SURE. LOT LEVEL OF URGENCY FOR, IS THERE A LEVEL OF URGENCY? IS THERE A OF URGENCY OR NO, THEY'VE BEEN DRAGGING ON FOR A LONG TIME, SO WE DO REQUEST THAT IT GET WRAPPED UP FAIRLY [03:40:01] SOON, BUT WE BE SAVE. BUT IF WE'RE DEALING WITH IT LIKE THE FIRST WEEK, WELL, WE'RE TRYING TO, WE'RE TRYING TO, WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE YOU A LITTLE BIT BY, YOU KNOW, WE COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND. FIRST WEEK. FEBRUARY IS PERFECT. MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGN SAYING AYE. A. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS CARRIED. THANKS JANE LEWIS. OKAY. WHEREAS PURSUANT TO THE NEW YORK STATE DOMESTIC RELATIONS LAW, ARTICLE THREE, SECTION 11 DASH C, THE GOVERNING BODY OF ANY VILLAGE, TOWN, OR CITY IS AUTHORIZED TO APPOINT ONE OR MORE MARRIAGE OFFICERS WHO HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO SOLEMNIZED A MARRIAGE. AND WHEREAS THE NUMBER OF MARRIAGE OFFICERS APPOINTED BY A MUNICIPALITY SHALL BE DETERMINED BY THE GOVERNING BODY OF THE MUNICIPALITY. AND WHEREAS THE TERM OF MARRIAGE OFFICERS IS TO BE DETERMINED BY THE GOVERNING BODY, WHICH MAKES THE APPOINTMENT, BUT THE TERM OF OFFICE CANNOT EXCEED FOUR YEARS. NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD APPOINT KATHY A KINSKI, RANDALL, HULK POLK, JILL SL, AND BRAD REPINSKI AS MARRIAGE OFFICERS FOR THE TERM COMMENCING JANUARY 1ST, 2024 THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2027. MS. REPINSKI WAS FIRST APPOINTED MARRIAGE OFFICER ON DECEMBER 9TH, 2020 2002, AND HAS ASSISTED THE TOWN JUSTICES IN PROVIDING THIS SERVICE TO OUR RESIDENTS. SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS CARRIED. WHEREAS ON JANUARY 21ST, 2022, THE TOWN OF HAMBURG TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZED A THREE YEAR EXTENSION THE TOWN ENGINEERING CONSULTANT SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH GHC CONSULTING SERVICES INCORPORATED. WHEREAS GHC CONSULTING SERVICES IS THE INCUMBENT PROVIDER OF ENGINEERING SERVICES THAT THE TOWN OF HAMBURG HAS PROPOSED A $5 PER HOUR INCREASE IN THE EMPLOYEE RATE FROM $155 TO ONE $60 PER HOUR. AND WHEREAS THE FEE FOR SUCH SERVICES ALREADY BE NEGOTIATED ANNUALLY, AND WHEREAS THE TOWN OF GHD HAVE NEGOTIATED FEE FOR 2024 SERVICES UP TO THE AMOUNT OF $94,400 AND WE AS FUNDS FOR THE 2024 CONTRACT YEAR ARE AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT 8 14 40 0.04 40 NOW THEREFORE BE A RESULT OF TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZED SUPERVISOR TO SIGN THE 2024 CONTRACT AMENDMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG AND GHD. SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? AB ABSTENTIONS CARRIED JURY RESOLVE THE TOWN BOARD. LIEUTENANT HAMBURG AUTHORIZED THE SUPERVISOR TO ENTER AN EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT ATTACHED HERE TO WITH CHIEF OF POLICE, PETER EZZ FOR JANUARY 1ST, 2023 THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2026. SOMO SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? CARRIED. WHEREAS TOWN OF HAMBURG, ITS VARIOUS APPLICATION FEES ASSOCIATED WITH PLANNING BOARD APPLICATIONS, SKETCH PLAN REVIEWS, S-W-P-P-P PLANS, SITE PLAN APPROVALS, SUBDIVISION APPROVALS, SPECIAL USE PERMITS AND REZONING APPLICATIONS. AND WHEREAS THE TOWN RECOGNIZES THERE'S AN ISSUE OF URBAN BLIGHT WITH THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE LEFT UNATTENDED, UNMAINTAINED, OR HAZARDOUS TO THE COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS ANY OWNER DEVELOPER LLC APPLYING FOR POSITIVE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE TOWN OF BURY, THAT IS OWNERSHIP OR MANAGEMENT INTEREST OR ANY PROPERTY WITHIN THE TOWN OF BURY THAT HAS BEEN ISSUED WITH CODE VIOLATION OR PENDING LITIGATION PERTAINING TO PROPERTY RELATED ISSUES, WILL HAVE ANY AND ALL FUTURE PERMIT FEES DOUBLED FOR ANY PROPOSED PROJECT UNTIL VIOLATIONS ARE RESOLVED. NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED. THE IN TOWN BOARD ADOPTS THE TOWNS FEE TABLE FOR PLANNING, ZONING, AND ENGINEERING RELATED FEES DATED 1 0 8 20 24. SO MOVED SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? PLEASE SAY AYE. A AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? JUST WANNA ASK A QUESTION WITH, UH, REGARDING MY, THIS WAS BROUGHT UP WITH THE, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE TIME TO BRING IT UP WITH THE GRAFFITI ON BUILDINGS AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND YOU GOT THE BUILDING INSPECTORS GOING OUT THERE. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA GO BACK TO WHAT I WAS A COUNCILMAN IN LACK, WA BUT WHAT WE USED TO DO IS THAT WE'D NOTIFY THE OWNERS AND IF THEY DIDN'T TAKE CARE OF IT, WE TOOK CARE OF IT, WE'D HIRED SOMEBODY AND THEN WE GAVE THEM A BILL AND ADDED ON THEIR TAXES. WE DO THE SAME, WE DO THAT. OKAY. MAYBE WE CAN GET THAT CLEANED UP. GOOD IDEA. BE RESOLVED. THAT THE HAMBURG TO BOTH. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? DETENTION CARRIED, PLEASE. THANK YOU. BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVES THE PERSONAL ACTION FORM. PAF ATTACHED. SO MOVED. SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? TENSIONS CARRIED. THAT'S ME. ASSOCIATIONS OF NEW YORK STATE YOUTH LEADERSHIP FORUM TRAVEL REQUESTS. BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE TOM BOARD AUTHORIZES ADAM HALL, RECREATION SPECIALIST AND NICOLE DE DECA, UH, YOUTH RISK COORDINATOR TO ATTEND THE ASSOCIATIONS OF NEW YORK STATE YOUTH LEADERSHIP FORUM IN ALBANY FROM MONDAY, FEBRUARY 5TH, TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 6TH, 2024. AND CHAPERONE FOUR TOWN HAMBURG YOUTH BOARD AND YOUTH COURT MEMBERS LISTED BELOW, UM, AS LISTED [03:45:01] SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGN. AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. READ THE BUNNY MOUTH OPPOSED? CARRIED A 948 RESOLVE THE TOUM BOARD, UH, APPROVE. THE TOMB BOARD AUDIT OF CASH DISBURSEMENT IS DATED JANUARY, 2024. TOTAL CASH DISBURSEMENTS SUBMITTED FOR AUDIT $1,886,556 65 CENTS. SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. A AYE. OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS CARRIED. ALL RIGHT. I FOR A LATE, UH, RESOLUTION. IS IT AN EMERGENCY? UM, IT'S JUST, UH, APPOINT APPROVAL OF PAF FOR MY, UH, MR. . THE, UH, THE NEW RULES OF ORDER AS ADOPTED BY THIS TOWN BOARD TWO WEEKS AGO, UH, INCLUDE ANY RESOLUTIONS TO BE OF AN EMERGENCY MAJOR ROOM. GOTCHA. ALL RIGHT. MY BAD. I MEAN, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO IT, BUT, SO THIS BRINGS US TO, UH, I BELIEVE PUBLIC EXPRESSION. UH, IF YOU'D LIKE TO BE HEARD ON ANY TOPIC WE ASK YOU, PLEASE JUST STAND, RAISE YOUR HAND, INDICATE THAT YOU'D LIKE TO BE HEARD. YES, MA'AM. UM, I NAME, HI. UM, THIS IS MY FIRST MEETING THAT I'VE BEEN TO. I'VE BEEN LIVING HERE FOR 12 YEARS. IT'S VERY, VERY INTERESTING AND I'M IMPRESSED WITH EVERYTHING YOU GUYS COVER AND THAT YOU HAVE WANNA THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE, UM, AND EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR THE COMMUNITY TO KEEP US SAFE. UM, SO THE REASON I CAME TONIGHT IS I'VE HEARD FROM, UH, THE LAST BOARD MEETING ON JANUARY 8TH THAT, UM, WE VOTE TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT FOR THE, UM, CLARK AND MCKINLEY INTERSECTION TRAFFIC PROJECT. UM, DID NOT GO THROUGH BECAUSE THERE WERE CERTAIN, UH, BOARD MEMBERS THAT, UM, VOTED NOT TO APPLY FOR THAT FUNDING. UM, AND I WAS JUST REALLY HONESTLY JUST SHOCKED AND DISAPPOINTED THAT THAT OCCURRED. I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THE PROJECT I, I LIVE NEARBY, USE THAT INTERSECTION ON A DAILY BASIS MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, TURNING LEFT THERE IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS, I THINK, AS ANYONE CAN TELL YOU, THAT'S TURN THERE. UM, I'M ALREADY KIND OF PREPPING MY KIDS FOR WHEN THEY START DRIVING AND TEACHING THEM HOW TO TURN LEFT THERE BECAUSE I'M JUST AFRAID OF, YOU KNOW, SOME SORT OF ACCIDENT. UM, SO JUST REALLY SURPRISED AND WANNA UNDERSTAND BETTER WHY, YOU KNOW, ALL OF A SUDDEN IT SEEMS THERE WAS A, A CHANGE OF CARS AND NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AT LEAST JUST APPLYING FOR THE FUNDING, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING ALL THE INS AND OUTS CORRECTLY. UM, YOU KNOW, THIS WOULD JUST BE TO APPLY FOR THAT FUNDING. THOSE DOLLARS NOW THAT WE MOVED THE DEADLINE ARE GOING TO GO TO OTHER TOWNS AND PROJECTS THAT THE GOVERNOR HAS SET ASIDE THESE FUNDS FOR NOW THAT WILL NOT BE USED BY THE TOWN OF . I'D BE HAPPY TO START THE DISCUSSION ON THAT. UM, A COUPLE OF UM, POINTS THERE. THE FIRST ONE IS THAT WHEN WE APPLIED FOR THE GRANT, AND I BELIEVE THE LAST SENTENCE IN THAT RESOLUTION SAID THAT WE ARE MAKING A COMMITMENT TO IT. SO I KNOW THAT WAS ONE QUESTION. SO WE ARE MAKING A COMMITMENT WHEN WE MAKE AN APPLICATION SUCH AS THAT. UM, THE SECOND POINT, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT FROM DAY ONE, GOING BACK TWO TRAFFIC SAFETY COORDINATORS AGO WHEN THE PROJECT WAS FIRST BROUGHT TO US, HAVING BEEN A RESIDENT IN HAMBURG FOR A VERY LONG TIME, I WAS FAMILIAR WITH, UM, MANY PROBLEMATIC AREAS IN THE TOWN, THAT BEING ONE IN SPECIFICALLY THAT THAT INTERSECTION. AND ACTUALLY IT WAS A, UM, HAMBURG CENTRAL, UH, SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER WHO APPROACHED US THE FIRST TIME AND HAD CONCERNS BECAUSE WHAT THEIR BUS DRIVERS WERE EXPRESSING TO THEM. SO WE ACTUALLY STARTED THE PROCESS, UH, BECAUSE IT IS A COUNTY ROAD. WE STARTED WITH CONTACTING THE COUNTY AND THE COUNTY OUTLINED FOR US WHAT THEY FELT THE FIRST STEP NEEDED TO BE, WHICH WAS A STUDY AT THE TIME. I WENT TO THE SUPERVISOR, UH, MR. SHAW AT THE TIME, AND AS A BOARD, WE DID VOTE TO FIND THE FUNDING TO COMPLETE THAT STUDY. AND WE DID THAT IN COLLABORATION WITH THE COUNTY SINCE IT IS A COUNTY ROAD. UM, SO WE HAD TO WORK HAND IN HAND WITH THEM AS NEEDS TO BE DONE THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE PROCESS. WE COMPLETED THAT STUDY AND TOOK THE NEXT STEP. WE HAD QUITE A FEW STAKEHOLDERS INVOLVED, COMMUNITY MEMBERS. WE'VE WORKED WITH OUR, UM, ENGINEERING CONSULTANT FIRM, GHD AND CAMMI GERALD, WHO'S HERE THIS EVENING. WE ALSO WORKED WITH THEIR, UH, TRAFFIC SPECIALIST D DONATO. AND THERE WERE A VARIETY THROUGH COMMITTEE MEETINGS. THERE WERE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT WERE LOOKED AT. UM, AND AGAIN, THE IMPORTANT PIECE HERE IS THAT THE COUNTY WAS INVOLVED AND THE COUNTY WEIGHED IN, UH, ON WHAT THEY FELT [03:50:01] THE NEXT STEP SHOULD BE, WHICH, WHICH OPTIONS THEY WERE IN FAVOR OF, ET CETERA, WHICH IS CRUCIAL TO THIS PROJECT GOING FORWARD. AND WE WERE AT THE POINT OF WANTING TO RFP, UM, MANY OPTIONS WERE CONSIDERED INCLUDING A ROUNDABOUT, BUT AT THAT TIME IT WAS EXPRESSED TO US BY THE COUNTY WHO HAS TO APPROVE ANY OF THIS, THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF THAT. AND SO WE WERE GOING TO PROCEED WITH THEM GOING AND, YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH THE DESIGN PROJECT, FINDING OUT THE BEST WAY TO MAKE AS MANY SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE IT'S AGREED UPON THAT WE WANT TO IMPROVE THAT INTERSECTION. THERE WAS FUNDING THAT WAS SECURED, ET CETERA. SUBSEQUENT MEETINGS, UM, BROUGHT UP THE THOUGHT OF A ROUNDABOUT AGAIN. UM, AND AT THAT POINT THE COUNTY EXPRESSED CONCERN. UM, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS, UM, A LOT OF, UH, AGAIN, ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY INPUT OVER THE LAST YEAR OR TWO. THERE'S BEEN ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION. I THINK THAT DISCUSSION WAS GOOD. IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO VET ALL OF THE OPTIONS THAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT AND SOME END UP BEING WHAT YOU DO IN THE END AND THE AVENUE THAT YOU PURSUE AND SOME END UP NOT. SO I DON'T THINK THAT THIS WAS, UM, WASTED TIME. I THINK WE CAN NOW LOOK AND SEE THAT WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME, UH, THE COMMUNITY, THE GROUPS, THE BOARD VETTING AND LOOKING AT MANY DIFFERENT OPTIONS WHEN IT CAME TO THAT, THAT TIME SEVERAL WEEKS AGO. AND WE DISCUSSED THIS GRANT, WE'VE APPLIED THROUGH THIS GRANT OPPORTUNITY, UM, BEFORE AND, AND FOR OTHER, OTHER GRANTS. UM, BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IT WAS THE COUNTY SUPPORT THAT WAS CRUCIAL. YOU, UH, I THINK IT WAS DURING THE WORK SESSION, SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE HERE, BUT YOU PROBABLY HEARD US TALK ABOUT ANOTHER GRANT OPPORTUNITY THAT ANNALISE SAMUEL SPOKE ABOUT. AND ONE THING THAT SHE MADE CLEAR WHEN SHE WAS COMMENTING WAS THAT SHE HAD COLLABORATED THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS WITH THE COUNTY AND THAT THE COUNTY WAS FULLY IN SUPPORT OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE DONE ON LAKE AVENUE. AND SO OF COURSE THE TOWN BOARD, UM, APPROVED THAT, THAT RESOLUTION AND WE'RE ACCEPTING WITH THE MATCH, UM, AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT PROJECT. THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT THE CRUCIAL PIECE THAT WAS MISSING IN THIS GRANT APPLICATION WAS THE LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE COUNTY BECAUSE IT IS A COUNTY ROAD AND WE HAVE TO COLLABORATE WITH THEM ON THIS. THEY HAVE TO GIVE THEIR SUPPORT, THEIR APPROVAL FOR ANYTHING THAT WE DO THERE. AND THEY DID NOT. LET, LET, I JUST WANTED, LET, LET COUNCIL MEMBER LOREN, PLEASE FINISH. I JUST WANTED, WE, WE GO ONE AT A TIME ON THIS BOARD. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE HER A LITTLE ADD ON AFTER THE END. SO THE COUNTY DID NOT PROVIDE THAT LETTER OF SUPPORT. WE DID OUR DUE DILIGENCE. WE CHECKED WITH THEM. WE WANTED TO KNOW WHETHER IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WOULD MAYBE BE FORTHCOMING. WE WERE TOLD IT WOULD NOT. AND SO IT DID NOT SEEM AT THIS POINT THAT IT WAS PRUDENT FOR US TO MAKE A COMMITMENT, WHICH WAS LAID OUT IN THAT RESOLUTION TO A PROJECT. ADDITIONAL TIME, ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, UH, INCLUDING FINANCIAL RESOURCES, MONEY FROM THE, THE, UM, FUNDING THAT WAS PROVIDED TO PURSUE, UM, A PROJECT OR AN OPTION FOR THESE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THE COUNTY WAS NOT GOING TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF. IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE'RE NOT INTENDING TO CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR AN OPTION FOR THAT INTERSECTION. WE HAVE THE FUNDING, WE HAVE, UH, OTHER PLANS, UH, AN ORIGINAL, UM, CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT OF COURSE NEEDS TO GO OUT AND HAVE FULL DESIGN AND HAVE MUCH MORE INPUT, ET CETERA. BUT THAT, UM, I THINK I'VE COVERED ALL THE POINTS, IS WHAT WAS THE RATIONALE BEHIND NOT VOTING FOR THAT, UH, FOR THE TOWN TO PURSUE THAT GRANT OPPORTUNITY? IT WAS THE LACK OF A LETTER OF SUPPORT OR ANY INTENT, UH, ON THE COUNTY'S PART TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT. DID I, DID I COVER YOUR, YOUR QUESTION? UM, YEAH, I THINK YOU COVERED IT. I HAVE, I DON'T, I HAVE ANOTHER LIKE, FOLLOW UP QUESTION. I I COULD, COULD I RESPOND TO, TO YOUR QUESTION AS WELL? YEAH. UM, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT FOR, BEFORE I WAS TOWN SUPERVISOR, I WAS PART OF THE COMMITTEE THAT LOOKED AT, AT THIS INTERSECTION AND WE LOOKED AT A LOT OF OPTIONS. WE LOOKED AT A LEFT HAND TURN ARROW, WE LOOKED AT SOME CROSSWALKS, WE LOOKED AT AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT THINGS. AND, UH, AS WE GOT FURTHER ALONG AND AFTER I BECAME ELECTED TOWN SUPERVISOR, UH, WE CONTINUED THAT WORK AND THAT THOSE PUBLIC MEETINGS, UM, AND WHAT BECAME CLEAR IN OUR MEETINGS WITH STAKEHOLDERS FROM THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURG AS WELL AS NEIGHBORHOOD [03:55:01] RESIDENTS, WAS THAT A LEFT TURN ARROW JUST WAS NOT ACCEPTABLE. THERE WAS THE THOUGHT THAT WE COULD DO BETTER. NOW, I DIDN'T JUST WANT TO TAKE THAT THOUGHT AND RUN WITH IT. WE WANTED TO ASK THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY THOUGHT ABOUT THIS PROJECT. SO WE, WE HAD SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH PEOPLE TELLING US WHY WE COULDN'T OR SHOULDN'T DO A ROUNDABOUT THERE. AND THE COMMUNICATION WITH ERIE COUNTY UP TO THAT POINT WAS SOLELY ON THE FUNDING. IT WOULD COST TOO MUCH. WE HAD SOME FUNDING AVAILABLE THAT WAS MADE AVAILABLE BY LEGISLATOR GILMORE, BUT CERTAINLY NOT ENOUGH TO DO THE PROPERTY ACQUISITION, THE ENGINEERING AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF A ROUNDABOUT. UH, SO, UH, THE PUBLIC SAID WE WANNA LOOK AT A ROUNDABOUT. SO WE BROUGHT IN A PERSON WHO HAS BROUGHT A THOUSAND ROUNDABOUTS TO THE UNITED STATES. IF ANYBODY COULD GET THE YES, IT WOULD BE MR. BURDEN. MR. BURDEN'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE IN, IN THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURG, UH, DOING A PRESENTATION, I BELIEVE ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT FOR THEIR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE. UM, BUT ANYWAYS, HE KNOWS HOW TO GET THESE THINGS DONE. SO WE HAD A PUBLIC MEETING. NOW WE HAD A GATEWAY REVITALIZATION PLAN THAT THE TOWN SPENT THAT WE GOT A GRANT FOR, $50,000 FOR. AND WE DID, WE TRIED TO GET PUBLIC OUTREACH. AND IN THE BASEMENT OF TOWN HALL, THERE'S MYSELF, THERE'S COUNCIL MEMBER FARRELL LAURENZ. THERE WAS TRUSTEE LAURA HACKATHORN FROM THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURG, AND THERE'S MY NEIGHBOR REAGAN. THAT WAS IT. THAT WAS ALL THE PUBLIC OUTREACH WE COULD ENGAGE FOR THIS OUTREACH FOR THE ROUNDABOUT. OVER 70 PEOPLE SHOWED UP IN THE BASEMENT ON A SATURDAY MORNING DURING THE ERIE COUNTY FAIR. AND THE CROWD WAS OVERWHELMINGLY SUPPORTIVE OF A ROUNDABOUT THAT VERY DAY. WE DID. WE LOOKED AT THAT INTERSECTION. WE LOOKED AT ANOTHER INTERSECTION OVER ON, UH, ABBOTT AND AND ARMOR DUALS. AND CERTAINLY THERE WERE CONCERNS. UM, BUT, UH, WE DID APPROACH THE ERIE COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS FOR A LETTER OF SUPPORT. NOW, I HAD NOT RECEIVED ANY NOTIFICATION THAT THEY SAID THEY WERE NOT GOING TO PROVIDE IT, BUT THE FACT IS, THE DOWN BOARD SAID NO. SO BY THE, A LOT OF TIMES LETTERS OF SPORTS, YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA GET THOSE THE DAY OF, OF THE OBLIGATION. I DID HEAR A RUMOR THAT, UH, FOLKS WERE CIRCULATING THAT THE ERIE COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS WAS NOT IN SUPPORT OF A ROUNDABOUT AT THIS INTERSECTION. SO I REACHED OUT TO THE COMMISSIONER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, MR. WILLIAM GEARY, AND HE PROVIDED ME THIS LETTER ADDRESSED THE TOWN BOARD THIS AFTERNOON, AND IT STATES DEAR HAMBRICK TOWN BOARD, I'M WRITING REGARDING THE PROPOSED CLARK STREET MCKINLEY PARKWAY INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT. THE TOWN OF HAMBURG INCLUDED US IN CONSULTATION REGARDING THIS PROJECT IN JANUARY OF 2023. AS CLARK STREET, MCKINLEY PARKWAY ARE BOTH MAINTAINED AND OWNED BY ERIE COUNTY, IT IS OUR GOAL TO SEE IMPROVEMENTS TO ENHANCE TRAFFIC SAFETY ALONG THESE ROADWAYS. THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION OF ROUNDABOUT WILL INCORPORATE THE VISION OF THE VILLAGE, TOWN, COUNTY, AND COMMUNITY REGARDING VEHICULAR AND MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION. THE ERIE COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT ISN'T SUPPORTIVE OF ROUNDABOUT AT THIS INTERSECTION. OUR DEPARTMENT IS AWARE THAT THE TOWN HAD ALSO CONSIDERING THE NEW YORK STATE DOT'S TAP CMAC GRANT TO IMPROVE THE CLARK STREET MCKINLEY PARKWAY INTERSECTIONS WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF A ROUNDABOUT, BUT HAS RECENTLY DECIDED AGAINST SUBMITTING THE GRANT APPLICATIONS. WE REQUEST THAT YOU CONTINUE TO KEEP US INFORMED IF YOU DECIDE TO PURSUE ANY FUTURE FUNDING TO PURSUE A ROUNDABOUT AT THE CLARK STREET AND MCKINLEY INTERSECTION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT, COLLABORATION, AND EFFORTS TO MAKE ERIE COUNTY AN EVEN BETTER PLACE TO LIVE. I HAVE COPIES FOR EACH BOARD MEMBER AS WELL AS OUR TOWN CLERK. COULD YOU PLEASE PASS THAT AND ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WAS THE OFFICE THAT WAS CONTACTED THE DAY THAT THE GRANT WAS DUE TO BE SUBMITTED AND SAID THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE PROVIDING IT. ABSOLUTELY. SO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT POLITICS AND POLITICS IN PLACE WITH HIS SISTER BEING THE DEPUTY, UH, COMMISSIONER OF HIGHWAYS AND THEN OF COURSE THE DEMOCRATIC COUNTY EXECUTIVE PUTTING PRESSURE ON THE GUY TO WRITE A LETTER. UM, THERE YOU GO. YOU GOT TWO COUNTY ROADS. AT THE BEGINNING THEY SAID THEY WEREN'T IN FAVOR OF THE ROUNDABOUT. THEY'RE IN FAVOR OF THEIR ORIGINAL PLAN. SO WE WENT WITH THE ORIGINAL PLAN AND WELL, THAT'S THE, UH, WAY WE'RE GOING TWO WEEKS AGO. WASN'T IT BROUGHT UP THAT, UM, YOU WERE EXPECTING IT THE NEXT TIME? I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE NARRATIVE. TWO WEEKS AGO. IT HAD BEEN REQUESTED. WE HAD NOT RECEIVED NOR AWARE OF ANY FORMAL NOTIFICATION THAT A LETTER WAS NOT GOING TO BE PROVIDED. AND REGARDLESS, WE DID NOT NEED A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM ERIE COUNTY TO APPLY FOR THIS GRANT. YOU MISS A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE SHOTS THAT YOU DON'T TAKE. AND THIS IS A SHOT THAT WE DIDN'T TAKE EXCEPT THAT THE RESOLUTION SAID WE BE, WE WOULD BE COMMITTED [04:00:01] TO THE PROJECT. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA LOOK FOR IMPROVEMENTS AT THAT INTERSECTION. I WOULD'VE BEEN HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN AN AMENDMENT TO THAT RESOLUTION SAYING THAT WE WERE JUST APPLYING WITHOUT COMMITMENT WOULD'VE BEEN HA IF THAT WAS THE ONLY ISSUE, I WOULD'VE BEEN HAPPY TO DISCUSS THAT THAT EVENING. WE RAISED THAT QUESTION AT NIGHT. WELL, THE WAY IT WAS GOING TO, I, MAYBE I MISSED IT, BUT IT, IT SEEMED LIKE THE ONLY OBJECTION TWO WEEKS AGO WAS THAT ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS WANTED TO FURTHER RESEARCH. NO, THAT WAS ALL NO, THE ISSUE. I REMEMBER THAT AS WELL. AND THE ISSUE WAS THAT NO, I RAISED THE QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH THE COUNTY, WE RAISED THE ISSUE ABOUT A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE COUNTY AND I I REMEMBER THAT. YES. AND SO THAT WAS THE RATIONALE HEARING THAT THEY WERE ANTICIPATING GETTING IT THE NEXT DAY. AND IT SEEMED LIKE THE DISCUSSION WAS FOCUSED ON WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS A NEED TO DO FURTHER RESEARCH BECAUSE THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT EMINENT DOMAIN. AND ONE OF THE GENTLEMAN HERE GOT UP AND SAID, NO, IT WAS, THAT WASN'T. AND WE HAD CONTACTED THE COUNTY THAT DAY AND CIRCLED BACK THE NEXT DAY AND WE WERE TOLD THE NEXT DAY THE DEADLINE FOR THE APPLICATION THAT IT WOULD NOT BE PROVIDED. DID YOU TALK TO COMMISSIONER GARRY? WE TALKED TO HIS OFFICE, YES. DID YOU TALK TO COMMISSIONER GARRY? IS IT HE WAS UNAVAILABLE AS ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT AND OUR CON AND OUR CONTACT WITH THE COUNTY WHO'S BEEN WALKING THROUGH THIS PROCESS WITH US FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS, WHO HAS BEEN PROVIDING THEIR INPUT ALL ALONG ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT. THERE HAS TO BE SOME CREDENCE GIVEN TO THAT INFORMATION. ALSO, WE HAVEN'T EVEN BEGUN TO TALK ABOUT THE INCREASED COST OF THIS PROJECT VERSUS AND TIME THAT IT WOULD ADD. AND IN ANY SITUATION WHERE THERE ARE SAFETY ISSUES, THAT IS AN IMPORTANT THING TO WEIGH WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO AN INTERSECTION. IF WE WAIT, AND WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS OUT THERE IN THE AUDIENCE NOW WHO'VE BEEN DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY SITUATIONS LIKE THIS RECENTLY. SO IF WE WAIT FIVE TO SEVEN TO MORE YEARS, BECAUSE THE PROCESS, AND I'M SURE WE COULD PUT TOGETHER INFORMATION ON THIS, THE PROCESS TO COMPLETE THIS COULD BE FIVE, SEVEN, PROBABLY MORE LIKE 10 YEARS AND THE ADDITIONAL COST. AND YET WE HAVE OTHER OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO MAKE SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS THAT COULD BE DONE IN A MUCH SHORTER TIMEFRAME AND WITH A MUCH, A MUCH SMALLER COST THAT WOULD STAY CLOSER TO THE FUNDING THAT WE ALREADY HAVE. AND WHO'S TO SAY WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN THAT INTERSECTION IN THE NEXT FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS? THAT'S PART OF WHAT WEIGHS ON THIS DECISION MAKING FOR US. AREN'T WE ALSO SUPPOSED TO BE MAKING AS SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE SO THAT WE ARE PROTECTING OUR RESIDENTS? WE HAVE MANY AREAS OF THE TOWN. WE HAVE MANY AREAS. NO, WE DID BRING A LOT OF THIS UP. WE MADE HAVE MANY AREAS OF THE TOWN THAT NEEDED OUR ATTENTION. AND THE FUNDING, FUNDING LIKE LEGISLATIVE FUNDING, GRANT FUNDING ISN'T GOING TO COVER EVERYTHING. WE'RE TRYING TO BE PRUDENT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE TAKE A LOOK AT MANY OF THESE. WE HAVE BEEN, WE HAVE A TRACK RECORD BEING SUPPORTIVE OF SAFETY INITIATIVES EVERYWHERE. I I HELPED TO BRING THE GATEWAY HERE, THE GREAT GATEWAY GRANT, SO THAT WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE CORRIDORS. WE HAVE DONE MANY, MANY THINGS. SAFETY IS CRUCIAL AND IT'S IMPORTANT. BUT THERE ARE SO MANY FACETS AND FACTORS THAT NEED TO BE, UM, DISCUSSED. AND I KNOW SUPERVISOR, YOU DID NOT WANT ME TO DISCUSS THESE THINGS AS YOU WERE QUITE DIRECT AND IN A PHONE CONVERSATION. UM, BUT THEY DO NEED, THEY NEED TO BE CONSIDERED, THEY NEED TO BE TALKED ABOUT. SOMETIMES IT, YOU KNOW, THE MOST OB IT'S NOT NECESSARILY OBVIOUS AND YOU HAVE TO WEIGH THINGS LIKE THE TIME FOR A PROJECT AND THE EXPENSE. AND THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS AVAILABLE. AND WE DID NEED TO WEIGH THE INVOLVEMENT OF ERIE COUNTY. I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO WEIGH FIRST AND FOREMOST IS THE OPINION, THOUGHTS, AND DIRECTION THAT OUR RESIDENTS WHO WE WORK FOR GIVE US. AND THERE WAS OVERWHELMING COMMUNITY SUPPORT TO TAKE ON A BIG PROJECT HERE. AND I DON'T BELIEVE WE SHOULD MAKE THE GOOD BE THE ENEMY OF THE BEST. AND I HAVE HIGH STANDARDS FOR THIS INTERSECTION AND I THINK THE COMMUNITY DOES AS WELL. SO IT'S MY HOPE THAT TO BOARD TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE SENTIMENTS OF COMMISSIONER GEARY AND CONTINUES TO EXPLORE HOW WE CAN BRING THE SAFEST ALL AND PROVEN ALTERNATIVE TO THIS INTERSECTION. NOT BRING IT, BRING IT BACK. THERE WAS A ROUNDABOUT THERE TO BEGIN WITH AND IT NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN OUT. [04:05:01] ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO BE HEARD ON PUBLIC EXPRESSION? MR. MAHONEY? GOOD EVENING. UH, BOB MAHONEY. UH, ANY COUNCIL HAMMER, TEXTING. FIRST I WANNA THANK THANK YOU TO MR. UH, COZEN TAKING UP, UM, THE COMMITTEE FOR, UH, THE REFERENCE AND RECYCLING. UH, MR. UH, CONLEY TOOK THAT ROLL OUT AND OBVIOUSLY NO LONGER HE IS HERE. HE'S DOING A FINE JOB IN THE COMMITTEE. AND I'M HERE TO ANNOUNCE MR. COZEN WAS GONNA MEET WITH THE COMMITTEE PEOPLE AND TRY TO GET SOME KIND OF, UH, ANSWERS ABOUT OUR, UH, REFUGE CHAIR AND OUR, UH, RECYCLING. UM, ALSO I WANNA THANK THE IT DEPARTMENT WHO ANSWERED MY REQUEST ABOUT ACOUSTICS. THE LIVE STREAMER COMPLAINING THAT THEY CAN'T HEAR A LOT OF WHAT GOES ON IN HERE, BUT THE, IT EXPLAINER TO ME, THEY'VE ORDERED SOME KIND OF EQUIPMENT THAT MIGHT BE COMING IN. THERE'S ALSO SOME CONSTRUCTION I BELIEVE DUE HERE IN THE COURTROOM. SO THE ACOUSTICS PROBABLY WILL MOST LIKELY CHANGE. BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE COOPERATION. UM, ALSO, UM, SOME OF THE RESIDENTS AND TAXPAYERS ARE ASKING ON THE BOARD, ON THE COMMITTEE REPORTS, THEY'RE ASKING FOR BASICALLY JUST A SHORT, UM, TALK OR ITINERARY OF WHAT YOU HAVE TO REPORT ON THE COMMITTEES THAT YOU ATTEND. THEY, SOME OF THE TAXPAYERS DON'T KNOW A LOT OF THESE COMMITTEES, SO THEY'RE JUST INTERESTED IN WHAT THEY'RE ABOUT. SO I'M YOUR, WHEN THEY, WHEN WHEN A SUPERVISOR ASKS FOR, UH, ANYTHING TO REPORT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE JUST, THERE GONNA BE SOMETHING OR AN EXPLANATION OF SOMETHING ABOUT THESE COMMITTEES OR WHAT, WHERE YOU ARE NOT A LONG, UH, YOU KNOW, CONSTITUTION OF WHAT YOU'RE INTO JUST SHORT, UH, REFERENCE TO IT SO THAT THEY WOULD'VE AN UNDERSTANDING. UM, ALSO, UM, WE'RE ASKING, THEY'RE ASKING, UM, EVERYONE'S ASKING FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE LATITUDE ON THE THREE MINUTES THAT THE GUIDELINE THAT YOU HAVE ON RESPONSE. SOME PEOPLE ARE SAYING WHEN SOME PEOPLE ARE TALKING AT CERTAIN ITEMS, THEY'RE IN, THEY'RE IN THEIR ZONE AND THEN THEY'RE CUT OFF. 'CAUSE IT OPPOSED TO THAT THREE MINUTES. WE'RE ASKING IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT LATITUDE AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING DISCUSSED BECAUSE SOME, I MEAN THEY'RE ALL IMPORTANT, BUT SOME THAT ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DISCUSSION AND THEY'RE CAUGHT OFF. SO SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE CONTACTED ME HAVE ASKED IF THEY COULD GET A LITTLE BIT MORE LATITUDE ON THAT THREE MINUTE RULE. I MEAN, AND UH, ONE LAST THING THAT THIS WAS, I ASKED THIS A WHILE BACK AND THEY COME BACK WITH ME AGAIN. UM, ON A PUBLIC RESPONSE, WHEN WE HAVE OPEN THE FLOOR, SOME OF THE PEOPLE LIVESTREAM, YOU KNOW, THEY WRITE IN OR THEY TEXT SOMETHING IN A SHORT COMMENT OR A QUESTION THEY'RE ASKING IF YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO, SOMEBODY ON THE BOARD WHO IT'S THEIR SUBJECT MATTER WOULD BE ABLE TO RESPOND IN A SHORT LIMITED TIMEFRAME TO WHAT THEY'RE ASKING. WE CAN ASK HERE 'CAUSE WE'RE HERE. BUT ON LIVESTREAM, I GUESS THEY TYPE IN, THEY DO THAT WITH THE PLANNING BOARD. THE PLANNING BOARD, THEY WITH THEIR PUBLIC HEARINGS, THEY, THEY, THEY TYPE IN OR TYPE IN A REQUEST OF, OF, OF, UM, VARIANCES, ZONING, SEEKER QUESTIONS. AND NORMALLY IT'S THE CHAIR OF THE PLANNING BOARD THE RESPONSE SHORT, SHORT STATE MESSAGE OR RESPONSE AND THE ANSWER. SO THAT'S WHAT THE REQUEST WILL FROM, UM, THE TAXPAYER GROUP IS, IS FINE. I AGREE. AND WE ALSO LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED FOR A PUBLIC COMMENT. BARB BROUGHT UP I THINK NUMBER 23. UM, I REALLY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND. I WENT, SAID I, AS FAR AS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, WHAT'S, HAS THERE BEEN A DECISION MADE? JEFF? ARE THEY GONNA PUT A TRAFFIC LIGHT IN THERE? I'LL, I I CAN OUTLINE WHAT WE'RE DOING IN MY REPORT. OKAY. AND ALSO, UH, GATEWAY. YES. ALSO, UM, THIS, THE ABILITY FOR THIS MEETING TO STREAM LIVE. HOW DO YOU HOOK UP WITH THAT? PEOPLE THEY CAN'T ATTEND MEETINGS BUT WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO, UH, DO THAT. SURE. AND ALSO THE, UM, HAMBURG MOVES. I STILL NEED SOMEBODY'S NAME, SO, OKAY, SURE. THANK UH, MS. ROBINSON, IF YOU COULD ADDRESS DURING YOUR REPORT HOW FOLKS CAN, CAN ACCESS THE LIVE STREAM. ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO BE HEARD? YES SIR. MR. HOL O' KYLE, FOR THE LAST TWO MEETINGS YOU'VE MENTIONED POLITICS, BOTH MEETINGS, [04:10:02] ONE WITH JIM DEBOWSKI BEING HIRED TODAY, AND THE LAST MEETING ABOUT KEN FARRELL BEING, UH, PRIOR, LAST, LAST, LAST MEETING. AND YOU SAID THAT HE DONATED OVER $20,000 TOWARDS THE REPUBLICAN COMMITTEE, DIFFERENT REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES. THAT'S INACCURATE. UM, I'M NOT GONNA ARGUE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, BUT THERE WERE DEMOCRATS OR CONSERVATIVES THERE, THE RESULTS OF REPUBLICANS. BUT JUST TO BRING A LIGHT AS LONG AS IN YOUR, YOUR QUOTE, YOU OPENED UP THE DOOR. SO THE TOTAL DONATIONS FOR YOU WERE $19,860 TO MARK POLAND CARS HIMSELF. 3,121, THE ZEL $1,295 FROM YOUR PAST ATTORNEY TO YOU. $775 TO YOUR SISTER WHO'S EMPLOYED BY THE, UH, COUNTY NOW. YOU USED TO BE EMPLOYED. KAREN DONATED $29,760 AND EIGHT, $780 AND 8 CENTS TO MARK POLAND CARS. $2,345. THAT SOUNDS LIKE A DAY OF PLAY. MR. BOING OR COUNCILMAN BOG ALKI NEVER RECEIVED $1 FROM HIM. JUST BRINGING LIGHT TO IT. THAT'S ALL. ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO BE HEARD? ALRIGHT, SO THAT BRINGS US TO, UH, REPORTS FROM THE DEPARTMENTS. WE'LL START WITH CLERK. THE TAX BILLS WERE MAILED OUT LAST WEEK. I KNOW PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN 'EM 'CAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY COME IN TO MAKE THEIR PAYMENTS. SO IF YOU DIDN'T GET YOUR TAX BILL, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF ISSUES WITH THE MAIL. THE BILLS ARE ONLINE ON OUR WEBSITE. YOU CAN MAKE YOUR PAYMENT ON, ON THE WEBSITE, YOU CAN MAKE IT IN PERSON. UM, YOU CAN DROP IT IN THE DROPBOX BY THE FRONT DOOR. WE'VE MADE EVERY EFFORT WE CAN TO MAKE, TO GIVE PEOPLE THEIR TAX AMOUNT. BUT I, I CAN'T, CAN'T TALK FOR THE MAIL, THE US MAIL. IT'S BEEN TERRIBLE. SO IF YOU GET YOUR BILLS, CALL US, KATHY. WHEN ARE THEY DUE? THEY'RE DUE FEBRUARY 15TH. THANKS. IT, IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN WATCHING THE LIVE STREAM OF ALL OF OUR BOARD MEETINGS, UH, OR THE PLANNING BOARD MEETINGS, YOU CAN EITHER GO TO FACEBOOK AND SEARCH TOWNSHIP OF HAMBURG, NY AND FOLLOW. OR IF YOU GO ON THE TOWN WEBSITE AT THE BOTTOM LEFT-HAND CORNER OF THE HOMEPAGE, THERE IS A FACEBOOK ICON THAT YOU CAN CLICK ON AND IT'LL TAKE YOU RIGHT TO THE PAGE. THANK YOU. UM, LET'S SEE. UH, PLANNING ELISE, UM, WE HAVE OUR MEETING, UH, WITH G-B-N-R-T-C THIS WEEK WITH THE JAZZ COMMITTEE TO DISCUSS, UH, WHAT WE WERE AWARDED, UH, REGARDING A STUDY FOR THE, UH, THE, THE HAMPTON BROOK WILDLIFE AREA OFF THE OLD EAST, EAST ROAD. UM, WE ALSO DID SUBMIT A VERY SMALL GRANT, UM, OVER PRESIDENT'S DAY WEEKEND OR WEEK BEFORE THAT FOR, UH, THE AMERICAN TRAILS, UM, ASSOCIATION FOR IN CONJUNCTION WITH NICOLE , UM, WITH THE HAMBURG YOUTH MENTORS GROUP. SO IT'S JUST TO DO SOME TRAILBLAZING WITH THE STUDENTS OVER THE SUMMER, UM, WHICH IF YOU'RE BACK ON THAT IN MARCH. UM, AND THEN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS ALSO SUPPORTING THE YOUTH REC AND SENIOR SERVICES IN THEIR COMMUNITY MEETINGS WITH, UH, THE RUSH CREEK, UM, PLAYGROUND INITIATIVE. UM, BUT THE NEIGHBORS, SO WE'LL BE ATTENDING THAT, UH, NEXT SATURDAY. UM, AND THEN WE ARE, I'M ALSO STILL WORKING WITH IT ON LONG TERM STORY PLANNING. UH, PLANNING. THANK YOU. YOUTH REC SENIOR SERVICES. SURE. UM, JUST TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW, OUR WELCOME, UH, BACK NEW YEAR DINNER WAS POSTPONED DUE TO THE WEATHER LAST WEEK, SO IT WILL BE TOMORROW, UM, AT OUR CENTER AT FOUR 30, UM, WITH MUSIC BY PETER ZA AND DINNER. SO IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COME, ESPECIALLY IN THE, UH, BOARD MEMBERS, JUST LET ME KNOW. UM, I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE PLENTY OF FOOD. UH, JUST TO THANK YOU FOR OUR YOUTH AND STAFF TO GO TO THE ALBANY CONFERENCE. UM, THEY WILL BE HEARING A WONDERFUL KEYNOTE SPEAKER AS WELL AS WORKSHOPS. AND THEN THERE'LL BE MEETING WITH OUR STATE, UH, ASSEMBLY, ASSEMBLYMEN AND SENATOR, AND WE'LL ACTUALLY BE TOURING THE CAPITOL BUILDING, WHICH I THINK IS A FANTASTIC OPPORTUNITY FOR THESE FOUR YOUTH. UM, WE ALSO HAVE A FAMILY FUN NIGHT COMING UP, CUPCAKE DECORATING ON FEBRUARY 8TH, [04:15:01] UM, FROM SEVEN TO EIGHT 30, ANYBODY CAN STILL SIGN UP AND YOU GET TWO CUPCAKES, THE PERSON. UM, AND THEN JUST THE ONLY OTHER THING WE ARE BRINGING BACK AGAIN, , OUR BREAK CAMP. SO PRESIDENT'S STATE BREAK CAMP, WE HAVE TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY, FULL DAYS, UH, SIGNUPS ARE OPENING NOW. AND THAT'S ALL WE GOT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, KEN, SUPERINTENDENT PUBLIC WORKS. THIS WILL BOARD NEW. I COMPLETED THE ANNUAL FILING WITH THE STATE FOR ALL THE, UM, BUILDING INSPECTION CODE. UH, PERMITS HAVE BEEN FILED THROUGHOUT THE 2023 YEAR. UM, I COMPLETED THE TOWN AND BOTH THE VILLAGES TODAY, BOTH GOT SUBMITTED TODAY, AND I DID WANT TO, UH, THROW A GOOD JOB OVER TO ED AND QUEENS. GREAT JOB DOING THAT. STORM, YES. ENGINEERING CONSULTANT. UM, JUST ONE UPDATE ON SOME ONGOING, UH, MOUNT VERNON. THE SANITARY SEWER WORK CONTINUES IN THAT AREA. UM, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT BECAUSE WE ARE UNDER A CONSENT ORDER FROM THE DC. AS PART OF THAT, WE HAVE TO DO AN ANNUAL REPORT, WHICH IS DUE AT THE END OF THE MONTH. SO WE'LL BE REPORTING ON THE ACTIONS DONE IN 2023. AND ALREADY THE NUMBERS ARE SHOWING A HUGE DECREASE IN OVERFLOWS IN THAT AREA. UM, SO I LOOK FORWARD TO SHARING THAT AS, AND THEN JUST THANK YOU FOR, UH, FOR THE RESOLUTION TO SEND MY CONTRACT LONGER. I GREATLY ENJOY WORKING WITH THE TOWN AND LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING. THANK YOU ANCE. UH, NOTHING TO RECORD. UH, CHIEF, UH, SPEAKING OF WINTER STORM EVENTS, I JUST WANT TO PROVIDE SOME PERSPECTIVE TO FOLKS. UM, EVERYONE KNOWS THAT THERE WAS A DRIVING BAN A COUPLE OF TIMES STILL. WITH THAT BEING SAID, OUR OFFICERS RESPONDED TO 158 SAFE VEHICLES AND 14TH VAN. SO I THINK THIS TIME AROUND THE STATE COUNTY LOCAL WITH JOHN THAT GAVE OUT THE WARNING ABOUT THE STORM THAT WAS COMING. I WAS LOOKING, FOLKS, THIS HAPPENS AGAIN, BUT THE WILL TO GET WHAT YOU NEED BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE A DRIVE STAND. AND I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO STAY HOME UNTIL, UH, YOU KNOW, SEAN GIVES 'EM THE, THE THUMBS UP THAT IT'S OKAY TO COME OUT. UM, THE OTHER THING IS, AS FAR AS THE DEPARTMENT GOES, WHERE YOU HAVE A MEETING WITH AXON, UH, NEXT WEEK AT WEEK ENDEAVOR TO IMPLEMENT, UH, A BODY CAM PROGRAM WITHIN DEPARTMENT. THANKS, CHIEF PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCH. I'D LIKE TO THANK THE BOARD SUPPORT IN HIRING OUR NEWEST, UH, TEAM MEMBER TONIGHT. UM, I'D LIKE THE CHIEF MENTIONS THAT STORM, I THINK TWO WEEKS AGO I MENTIONED THAT, THAT THINGS WERE COMING AND, UM, SO WE'VE BEEN BUSY IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS. ALL THOSE CALLS THAT, UH, FOR DISABLED VEHICLES, THEY GO THROUGH DISPATCH. A LOT OF PEOPLE, THEY DON'T KNOW WHO TO CALL. THEY CALL 9 1 1. SO OUR DISPATCHERS, WE RAN, UM, FILES THROUGH THE DAYS AND FOR, UH, NIGHTS, AND THEY, UM, THEY WORKED, UM, MUCH LIKE MANY, MANY DEPARTMENTS DID DURING THE STORM. SO, UM, JUST LIKE THE BANK, LIKE THE CHIEF MENTIONED, THE DRIVING BAN IN EFFECT IT WAS AFFECTED, WAS MUCH BETTER THIS TIME AROUND. IT GAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ED'S CREWS AND THE STATE AND COUNTY PARTNERS TO GET OUT AND GET THOSE ROADS CLEARED. SO, UM, A LOT OF, A LOT OF LITTLE THINGS GOOD. UH, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT WISE, UM, WE'RE STILL WORKING. WE'LL KEEP ON THAT SPIRIT OF THE STORM. UH, MANY DEPARTMENTS, UM, FROM JILLS, UH, SERVICES, WE STOOD UP, UH, YOU KNOW, A WARMING CENTER FOR MOTORISTS THAT WERE STRANDED AND THERE WERE ABANDONED IN THE VEHICLES. UH, IT GOT THE MESSAGE OUT. ONE OF THE GREATEST THINGS THAT I, WE DID REALLY GOOD AT THIS, THIS EVENT WAS COMMUNICATE, COMMUNICATE WITHIN OUR, UH, OUR DEPARTMENTS IN THE TOWN, COMMUNICATE WITH OUR RESIDENTS, UH, BETWEEN OUR CO RED, OUR IT ON THE WEBSITE, WHICH WAS, UM, HEAVILY TRAFFICKED AND JUST COMMUNICATING IN GENERAL, UM, WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH MEDIA AND, AND SOCIAL MEDIA. SO, UM, WITHIN THE DEPARTMENTS, WE DIRECTED SENIOR SERVICES. IT, UH, THE BOARD, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, OUR DEPARTMENT WOULD BE COMMUNICATED EVERY 12 HOURS. WE COMMUNICATED THAT OUT WITH OUR, UM, ELECTED OFFICIALS AS WELL AS, UM, AT THE COUNTY LEVEL AS WELL AS OUR EMERGENCY MANAGER. SO SOME THINGS THAT WE'RE STILL WORKING ON IS GETTING RESOLUTION TO THREE FEDERALLY DECLARED DISASTERS. WE'RE STILL LOOKING TO GET MONEY FOR SO THAT WE CAN, UH, REPLENISH SOME OF PAT'S BUCKETS. UM, BUT WE'VE BEEN WORKING, WE CAN MEET EVERY TWO WEEKS WITH FEMA AND, UH, CAN, AND CANNING, YOU KNOW, WORKING DILIGENTLY WITH OUR OFFICE, UH, NICK AS WELL, UM, TO GET THAT CLOSURE. SO, UM, THANK YOU. I KNOW WE HAD A, UM, WE HAD A CALL COME TO THE SUPERVISOR'S OFFICE ABOUT OUR PARTNERS IN PRIVATE PLOWING. AND I KNOW THAT THE WOMAN HAD PLANNED ON BEING HERE, AND I, SHE, UH, MADE IT THE START. [04:20:01] BUT, UH, SHE HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT PRIVATE LAW CONTRACT WHERE THEY STAND IN THE, IN THAT ESSENTIAL PERSONNEL. WE FOLLOW A FEDERALLY, UM, A FEDERAL SCHEDULE THAT SHOWS, UH, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN DEMOGRAPHICS, JOBS THAT ARE PROVEN ESSENTIAL. NOW. WE HAVE MANY, MANY PEOPLE THAT HAVE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT JOBS, UH, THAT MAY NOT HIT THAT LIST. AND THOSE PRIVATE CLOUD CONTRACTORS AREN'T ONE OF 'EM. WE RELY ON THEM AND WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM. WHILE WE MAY NOT SEE THEM IN THAT SCHEDULE OF TRULY ESSENTIAL PEOPLE, THEY'RE VERY IMPORTANT TO US BECAUSE THEY CLEAR THOSE COMMERCIAL LOTS, THEY CLEAR THOSE, UM, RESIDENTIAL, UM, YOU KNOW, APPLICATIONS THAT IF WE HAD AN EMERGENCY IN, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET INTO THEIR DRIVERS OTHERWISE. SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT WE DO WORK WITH, UM, OTHER PEOPLE THAT MAY NOT BE IN THAT ESSENTIAL TIER, BUT THEY ARE TRULY ESSENTIAL TO US IN OUR OPERATIONS, CLEARING THOSE PRIVATE RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT MAY NOT HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE THE TALENT AROUND THE DEPARTMENT OR, OR OTHER TALENT LAYER THEIR ROLE. SO, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF THOSE THAT GOES INTO THE STORM, AND I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S COOPERATION AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THAT, THAT COMMUNICATION KEY. SO THANK YOU. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, NOTHING NEW, JUST BUSY WITH OUR HOUSING PROGRAMS. I WAIT. UM, AS WE ALL KNOW, WE HAD A STORM HERE, UH, JANUARY 13 THROUGH THE 17TH. LAST, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WAS ONLY FIVE DAYS. UM, I'D LIKE TO SAY SOME THANK YOUS THAT, UM, KIND WAS COORDINATED TO MYSELF AND MY DEPUTY. UH, I SAY, UH, THANK THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURG, UH, FOR COVERING ALL THE STREETS AROUND THE VILLAGE. THEY HELP US OUT A LOT THROUGH STRICT CHURCH SERVICES THAT WE SIGNED AGREEMENT WITH. AND, UH, I'M LIVE WITH, UM, EDEN. EDEN, UH, HYBRID APARTMENT, BROUGHT DOWN A BLOWER, AND THEY WERE HELPING US OUT WITH ALL THE BIG DRIFTS AND THE ROADS THAT WERE, WERE TOUGH TO GET THROUGH. THEY CAME DOWN FOR TWO DAYS. THE COUNTY, UH, THROUGH, UM, THROUGH DLAN, UM, SENT US FIVE HIVES AND EIGHT TRUCKS AS WE COULD ALL SNOW OUT AS WE WERE GOING ALONG, AS WE WERE PLOWING, WE WERE HAULING SNOW UP. SO IT KINDA, IT HELPED OUT THE WHOLE PROCESS. EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, LIKE YOU SAID ABOUT AND EVERYTHING ELSE. KEPT EVERYBODY INFORMED, UH, BEG FOR COMING DOWN. THEY BROUGHT THEIR LOWER DOWN AND, AND SOME PERSONNEL DOWN. IT HELPED US OUT GET, GETTING IT, UH, SLOWED BACK TO THE, UH, THE MAILBOXES. SO WE HAVE A PLACE TO PUT MORE FUN COMING. UH, EAST AURORA HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT SENT TWO PLOWS DOWN TO HELP US OUT, UM, THROUGH SHARED SERVICES. EVAN SENT A PLOW DOWN, UH, TO HELP US OUT ALSO. THAT WAS, THAT WAS A MA IT, IT, IT, IT ALL WORKED GOOD TOGETHER. UM, AND THANK MY GUYS, UH, FOR COMING IN. UM, WE KNOW WAS A HUNDRED, A HUNDRED PERCENT PARTICIPATION FOR MY GUYS COMING IN, YOU KNOW, WORKING 16 HOUR SHIFTS IN, WITH EIGHT HOURS OFF, AND THEY DID THERE FOR FIVE DAYS STRAIGHT. SO, UH, I, I COMMEND THEM GUYS AND I REALLY GIVE THEM OODLES BECAUSE THAT'S THE TRUE HEROES FOR THIS THING. AND, UM, JUST, JUST A LITTLE, JUST A LITTLE, JUST TO GIVE JUST THE, UH, OVERTIME ALONE. THEY WORKED ALMOST $1,400 JUST IN OVERTIME BY MY CREW. SO I GIVE THEM GUYS A TON OF KUDOS AND, UH, AND I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA GIVE 'EM A, A, A LUNCH ON WEDNESDAY FOR, FOR THE, UH, OUT OF MY POCKET. SO, UM, UH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING ON SLOWING RULE. UM, WE'RE DOING IT OURSELVES AS MUCH AS WE CAN. WE'RE PUSHING BACK OUT EVERY DAY. WE'RE, WE'RE SENDING THE PLOWS BACK OUT. WE'RE PUSHING BACK. SO WE HAVE A PLACE AT LEAST TO OPEN UP. SO WHEN THE, WHEN IT STARTS, UH, MELTING DOWN SOMETHING OVER THE WEEKEND HERE, IT'S GONNA MELT DOWN. THE WATER'S GONNA HAVE A PLACE TO GO. SO IT'S KIND FIND DRAINS. AND THEN IN THE, UM, RECEIVERS, AND WE REPLACE THE MAILBOX. SO A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE QUESTIONED ABOUT MAILBOX. YOUR MAILBOX GETS KNOCKED DOWN BY US. WE HAVE A BUDGET AND WE WILL COME IN AND FIX IT. WE HAVE A LIST OF ABOUT 50 MAILBOXES RIGHT NOW, SO THAT'S NOT TUESDAY AFTER A BIG STORM LIKE THIS WHEN HAVING 50 MAILBOXES. SO I WAS PRETTY HAPPY WITH THAT. UM, THE LAST, UH, LAST THING I GOT IS, UH, AT THE LAST MEETING, UM, I WASN'T PREPARED TO MAKE A STATEMENT ABOUT EMPLOYEES AND STUFF. AND, UH, IT'S BEEN BOTHERING ME EVER SINCE. UM, SO, UM, I, I KNOW I'M HERE. I ASK FOR FOUR EMPLOYEES. I UNDERSTAND THAT I'M WILLING TO SIT DOWN WITH THE BOARD AND TRY TO COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF SOLUTION DOING THAT, BUT I'M, I'M NOT, UM, I, I, I LOOK FORWARD IN WORKING WITH BI MILLER GROUNDS EVERY DAY. UM, WE HAVE A MEETING THIS WEDNESDAY WITH THE, WITH, UH, MYSELF, NATE, PAT, MY TWO FORMER SITTING DOWN TO, UH, TO JUST HELP TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO JUST CONSOLIDATE OUR RESOURCES BOARD AND UTILIZE OUR MANPOWER BOARD. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. WE'RE ALL HERE FOR THE TOP OF AMBER. THAT'S THE BEST REASON WHY I WAS, THAT'S WHY I'M STANDING HERE BECAUSE I, I LOVE THIS TOWN. I WANT THIS TOWN TO MOVE FORWARD. AND I'M TRY TO USE EVERY RESOURCE WE CAN, ESPECIALLY WITH THE RESOURCES FOR BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS AND US. SO, UM, I'M NOT, I'M NOT HERE TO, TO, YOU KNOW, COACH, UH, EMPLOYEES FROM ANYWHERE I WANT. I WANT EMPLOYEES. THAT'S LIKE VAN GOAL. UM, AND I'M GONNA DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. AND I WANT, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, SIT DOWN THE TOWN BOARD. THAT'S ONE OF OUR, I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE BOARD, [04:25:01] YOU KNOW, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT OUR, OUR, OUR ISSUES WITH MANPOWER AND STUFF GIVES SOME KIND OF RESOLUTION TO, TO HELP US ALL OUT. SO, UM, SO THAT'S ALL I GOT, SO THANK YOU. AND, UH, ON BEHALF OF MY GUYS, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, JUST FOR YOU SEE 'EM TO SAY, HEY, NICE JOB. AND, 'CAUSE THEY, THEY DESERVE IT. THEY, THEY WANT, THEY WANT, THEY WANT FIVE DAYS AND WITHOUT SLEEP AND MISSING THEIR FAMILIES AND EVERYTHING ELSE. I KNOW IT'S THEIR JOB, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, THEY, ALL THESE GUYS WENT UP ABOVE AND BEYOND TO DO THEIR JOB. AND, AND IT, IT DEFINITELY WORKED A LOT EASIER THIS TIME AROUND KEEPING THE ROADS OPEN AND EVERYTHING ELSE. 'CAUSE EVERYBODY WORKED TOGETHER. SO TRAFFIC SAFETY, IT'S A TRAFFIC SAFETY. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO PAT B. HE WAS ON, UH, THE TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE FOR 36 YEARS. UH, HE JUST RECENTLY RETIRED. HE IS MOVING TO FLORIDA, SO I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU ON THAT. UH, HE DID A GREAT JOB. THANK YOU. MS. SING. YES. I'D LIKE TO READ REMIND TO ALL THE RESIDENTS THAT MARCH 1ST IS COMING QUICKLY. THAT'S THE DEADLINE TO FILE FOR ALL PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTIONS. UM, OUR OFFICE IS REACHING OUT TO ALL OF THE SENIORS AND ABILITY RESIDENTS WHO HAVEN'T NEEDS ASSUMPTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS, JUST CONTACT OUR OFFICE. THANK YOU. LEGAL. NO RECORD. ALL RIGHT. DID I GET EVERYBODY? WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS IN THE GROUND. WE'LL MOVE TO, UH, REPORTS FROM THE BOARD COUNCIL MEMBER BOSKY, NO REPORTS. COUNCIL MEMBER, COZY. I, UH, JUST WANTED TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO THE CHIEF, UH, NEW CONTRACT. UH, DO A GREAT JOB. AND, UH, SURE THAT'S WHY YOU GOT A NEW CONTRACT. UH, THANKS DAD HUGHES, UH, MR. KARATE OVER THERE. AND, UH, THE B TEAM, UH, FOR THE JOB THAT THEY DID DURING THE STORM. ALSO LIKE TO THANK THE BUFFALO BILLS FOR A GREAT SEASON OF, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT THE WAY, UH, WE WANTED TO TURN OUT, UM, ANOTHER HEARTBREAKER, ANOTHER WIDE, RIGHT. UM, AND THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANKS. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER FARRELL LAURENZ. I'M GONNA REPEAT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE ALREADY SAID, BUT I THINK THEY DESERVE TO BE REPEATED. SO I'LL START BY, UM, SAYING THANK YOU TO ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS, ALL OF OUR TOWN EMPLOYEES WHO PULLED TOGETHER. I THINK THE KEY WORD THERE THAT ED USED WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, TEAM TEAMWORK, UM, AND THE COMMUNICATION THAT WAS INVOLVED, UH, FROM HIGHWAY, UM, YOUTH REC AND SENIOR SERVICES. I DON'T WANNA LEAVE ANYONE OUT. EMERGENCY SERVICES, OUR POLICE, OUR FIRE COMPANIES, OUR IT, I MEAN, EVERYONE TRULY HAS A ROLE IN THIS. AND IT'S THAT TEAMWORK AND COMMUNICATING AND WORKING TOGETHER THAT, THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. AND, UM, SO A BIG THANK YOU TO EVERYONE ON BEHALF OF OUR COMMUNITY. UM, I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK PATRICK BABST. I HAVE WORKED WITH THE TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS NOW, AND PATRICK WAS A MEMBER OF THAT BOARD FOR 36 YEARS AS, UM, MR. JAIMINI SAID. AND HE WAS A GREAT MEMBER OF THAT, OF THAT GROUP. HE WAS ALWAYS AT MEETINGS. HE HAD A GREAT PERSPECTIVE ON TRAFFIC SAFETY RELATED ISSUES THROUGHOUT THE TOWN. AND HE WILL BE MISSED, HIS EXPERTISE AND HIS, UM, PERSONALITY AND, UM, EVERYTHING THAT HE BROUGHT BROUGHT TO THAT GROUP AND THE WAYS IN WHICH HE HELPED OUR ENTIRE TOWN. SO THANK YOU TO HIM. UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT RECENTLY OUR LAKEVIEW VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY CELEBRATED THEIR HUNDRED YEAR ANNIVERSARY. AND I REALLY ENJOYED READING SOME OF THE DIFFERENT, UM, INFORMATION AND ARTICLES AND, UM, THAT THEY WROTE ABOUT THAT HISTORY AND HOW THEY GOT HERE FROM A HUNDRED YEARS AGO. UM, AND WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO PREPARE A, A PROCLAMATION AND WE'D LIKE TO INVITE THEM TO A FUTURE, UH, TOWN BOARD MEETING SO WE CAN PROPERLY RECOGNIZE ONE OF OUR VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANIES HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO'S CELEBRATING SUCH A SIGNIFICANT MILESTONE 100 YEARS. SO THANK YOU TO THEM AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WHEN WE CAN PUBLICLY ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS. UM, I'LL ALSO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND, UH, CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR POLICE CHIEF ON, ON THE NEW CONTRACT. AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO MANY MORE, UM, SUPER THINGS FROM YOU AND, AND THE DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU. AND FINALLY, I KNOW AT THE LAST MEETING, WE SPENT SOME TIME RECOGNIZING AND THANKING, UM, MANY INDIVIDUALS WHO HAD CONTRIBUTED ON, ON, UH, A VARIETY OF OUR BOARDS AND IN POSITIONS, ET CETERA, WHO WERE EITHER MOVING TO OTHER OPPORTUNITIES OR RETIRING OR DIFFERENT POSITIONS WITHIN THE TOWN. BUT WE DID FORGET ONE PERSON I DID WANT TO MENTION, WHILE HE'S STILL A MEMBER OF THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS, UM, BRAD REPINSKI DID SERVE AS 12 FOR 12 YEARS AS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE ZBA. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK HIM, THANK HIM FOR, UH, HIS 12 YEARS OF LEADERSHIP. I'M THE ZBA, GLAD THAT HE'LL STILL BE THERE AS A MEMBER, AND WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THAT WE DID RECOGNIZE [04:30:01] HIM FOR HIS CONTRIBUTIONS IN THAT POSITION. COUNCILMAN RECOVER FIRST? YEP. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY HIT ON WHAT, UM, JENNY AND SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER WITH IT. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, BOB, YOU KNEW, AND YOU COULD TAKE IT BACK TO THE PEOPLE THAT WERE CONCERNED ABOUT GETTING ON LIVE CHATS OR THE LIVE STREAMS. YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE A FACEBOOK USER, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A FACEBOOK IDENTITY TO WATCH THOSE LIVE STREAMS. YOU CAN CLICK IN AND BECAUSE WE'RE A GOVERNMENT PAGE, YOU CAN WATCH IT WITHOUT HAVING AN IDENTITY. OKAY? SO IT'S STILL ACCESSIBLE FOR SOME REASON, SOMEBODY CAN'T COME OUT, OR FOR SOME REASON, A FOUR HOUR BOARD MEETING DOESN'T SEEM TO FIT INTO THEIR SCHEDULE. I GET IT. YOU CAN WATCH FROM AT HOME OR YOU CAN WATCH THE NEXT MORNING AND EMAIL US AFTERWARDS. I THINK THE ISSUE IS THAT PEOPLE ARE POSTING COMMENTS ON WHAT YEAH, THEY WANNA BE ABLE POST A COMMENT WITH PLANNING BOARD. A LOT OF TIMES THE COMMENTS THAT ARE COMING THROUGH ARE READ IN REAL TIME. SO THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE SITTING AT HOME ARE GETTING AN INSTANT RESPONSE TO WHATEVER TOPIC IS BEING DISCUSSED. WELL, PLANNING BOARD, THEY DON'T RESPOND TO THE COMMENTS. THEY READ THE COMMENTS WHEN IT'S PART OF PUBLIC COMMENTS. THEY DO RESPOND. THEY DO, YEAH. OKAY. THAT WAS NEW THEN. THEY NEVER RESPONDED TO 'EM IN PREVIOUS. THEY WOULD READ 'EM. YEAH, IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN CONSIDER AND DISCUSS, BUT IF THEY WANNA WATCH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A MEMBER OF FACEBOOK TO WATCH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A FACEBOOK IDENTITY OR PROFILE TO WATCH THE MEETINGS AND TAKE IN WHAT'S BEING SAID. THAT BEING SAID, UM, I WANTED TO THANK ALL THE EMPLOYEES THAT WENT UP, UP AND BEYOND BECAUSE WHILE THOSE OF US WERE HOME WITH OUR FAMILIES CONTEMPLATING HOW MUCH FOOD OUR KIDS REALLY COULD EAT, OR HOW MANY MORE TIMES THEY WERE GONNA TELL US, I'M BORED. I WANNA GO OUTSIDE AND THEN COME BACK IN TWO MINUTES LATER. YOU WERE OUT THERE AND YOU WERE DOING ALL THE THINGS THAT WE COULDN'T DO, AND YOU WERE DOING ALL THE THINGS THAT WE APPRECIATED. UM, EVEN MR. KARATE'S VERY EARLY MORNING WAKE UP CALLS, WE STILL APPRECIATED THEM KNOWING WHETHER OR NOT WE HAD PERMISSION TO HIT THE ROADS OR IF WE WERE GONNA BE WALKING TO THE NEAREST SLEDDING HILL. SO I THANK YOU ALL FOR GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND. I'M SURE YOU WOULD'VE RATHER BEEN HOME WITH YOUR FAMILIES ANSWERING THOSE QUESTIONS OF WHAT ARE WE EATING NEXT? WHAT ARE WE DOING NOW, AND HOW MUCH LONGER IS IT GONNA KEEP SNOWING? SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR SACRIFICING YOUR TIME AND BEING THERE AND DOING THE SELFLESS WORK THAT MANY, MANY PEOPLE DON'T NOTICE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T GET TO SEE IT FIRSTHAND. BUT I KNOW THAT YOU WERE ALL THERE DOING IT. SO THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. SO I WANNA ADDRESS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP DURING PUBLIC EXPRESSION, MR. MAHONEY, THE, UH, THREE MINUTES ON PUBLIC EXPRESSION AND PUBLIC HEARING. A LOT OF FOLKS, I THINK, THINK THAT THAT'S JUST OUR, OUR PREFERENCE OR JUST A NUMBER THAT WE CAME UP WITH RANDOMLY, BUT THAT'S IN THE RULES OF ORDER, THAT'S PART OF THE LAW THAT'S BEEN ADOPTED BY THE TOWN OF HAMBURG. SO IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT CAN BE REVISITED, BUT IT HAS TO, IT, IT CAN'T SIMPLY BE AN INFORMAL REQUEST FROM, FROM PEOPLE. WE'D HAVE TO CHANGE THE RULES OF ORDER OF THE TOWN. SO WHEN I'M TELLING PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE THREE MINUTES OF UP, WHICH I CERTAINLY WASN'T GONNA DO TO YOU TONIGHT BECAUSE YOU WERE RAISING THAT SPECIFIC ISSUE, BUT WHEN I DO THAT, IT'S BECAUSE I TOOK AN OATH TO UPHOLD THE LAWS OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, THE STATE OF NEW YORK, AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. SO IT'S NOT PERSONAL, IT'S, I'M NOT TRYING TO CUT PEOPLE OFF, IT'S JUST MY JOB AS THE CHAIR OF, OF THIS BODY. UM, BUT CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE CONSIDER MAKING AN AMENDMENT TO BLAKE AVE. UM, BARB, UH, ANNIE GAVE A GREAT PRESENTATION DURING THE WORK SESSION. UH, IF YOU HAVE TIME TO, TO CHAT WITH HER TONIGHT BEFORE YOU LEAVE, I'D RECOMMEND IT. BUT IN A NUTSHELL, WE'VE RECEIVED A GRANT FROM THE ERIE COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENT AND PLANNING TO FURTHER STUDY THAT CORRIDOR ON LAKE AVENUE. SO THEY'RE GONNA LOOK AT SOME DIFFERENT DESIGNS. THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF DOING A DEMONSTRATION PROJECT, WHICH WOULD BE ACTUALLY TEMPORARILY IMPLEMENTING A ROAD TREATMENT TO SEE HOW IT WORKS OR SEE HOW IT DOESN'T WORK FOR THE COMMUNITY. THERE'S NO PLANS FOR A TRAFFIC LIGHT. UM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CONSIDER. UM, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THAT IDEA HAS BEEN, UH, PROPOSED BEFORE. UH, BUT IT DIDN'T WORK OUT. BUT THIS IS GONNA GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO TO IMPROVE THAT CORRIDOR AND MAKE IT SAFER AND PERHAPS, UM, PROVIDE MORE ECONOMIC STIMULUS IN THAT AREA AS WELL BY INCREASING THE, THE, THE WALKABILITY. UM, SO THAT'S, IT'S AN EXCITING PROJECT. YOU ALSO ASKED ABOUT THE GATEWAY GRANT. SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE A GATEWAY REVITALIZATION PLAN, WHICH THE TOWN COMMISSIONED. UM, AND THAT WILL BE HELPFUL FOR US AS WE APPLY FOR GRANTS. SO THERE, THERE, THERE WASN'T SPECIFICALLY GATEWAY GRANT, HOWEVER, WE DID TWO WEEKS AGO, THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZED TO, TO APPLY FOR A CMAC GRANT TO LOOK AT THE SOUTH PARK CORRIDOR. SO THAT IMPLICATION, UH, JUST WENT IN AND IT'S TYPICALLY WEEKS, IF NOT MONTHS BEFORE WE HEAR BACK ON THAT. BUT [04:35:01] THE SLOW WHEELS OF GOVERNMENT ARE TURNING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. UM, HAMBURG MOVES, UM, I, I CAN TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT. WE'LL, WE'LL GET YOU IN TOUCH WITH THE PEOPLE YOU NEED TO GET IN TOUCH WITH. UH, WE DID HAVE A MEETING, UH, IT WAS, IT WAS BEFORE THE STORM, SO IT WAS TWO WEEKS AGO. UM, AND WE DID DECIDE TO INCLUDE THE INTERSECTION OF SOUTH PARK AND, UH, SCRANTON ROAD AS PART OF OUR AGENDA FOR 2024. SO IT'S, IT'S ON THE AGENDA. WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT IT. I THINK WE AGREED THAT THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO LOOK AT DOING A ROAD SAFETY AUDIT FOR, FOR YOUR SUGGESTION. SO PROBABLY GONNA WAIT UNTIL THE WEATHER'S A LITTLE BIT MORE ACCOMMODATING. UM, BUT THAT'S IN THE WORKS. UM, ALRIGHT, UH, SO STORM, I, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT, A LOT OF GROUPS, A LOT OF GOVERNMENT ENTITIES HAVE HELPED TO REALLY MAKE THIS, WHAT I WOULD SAY THE BY FAR, THE ABSOLUTE MOST SUCCESSFUL AND WELL COORDINATED STORM RESPONSE SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE TOWN BOARD, NO DOUBT. AND THAT IS CERTAINLY EVIDENCED BY THE NUMBER OF CALLS THAT I RECEIVED IN MY OFFICE. THE COMPLIMENTS AND THE ACCOLADES OUTNUMBERED THE COMPLAINTS, AND THAT'S THE FIRST TIME THAT THAT HAS HAPPENED. AND IT'S RARE. I MEAN, PEOPLE ARE OFTEN MORE QUICK TO COMPLAIN THAN THEY ARE TO CONGRATULATE, BUT THAT HAS NOT BEEN THE CASE. I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GO TO NINOS TO GRAB A SLICE OF PIZZA AND PEOPLE STOP ME IN THE PARKING LOT AND SAID, GREAT JOB ON THIS. MAKE SURE YOU TELL THE GUYS THAT THEY DID A GOOD JOB. WHEN I TALKED TO COMMISSIONER GEARY TODAY, HE ALSO SAID, UH, FROM HIS PERSPECTIVE, HAMBURG WAS REALLY A SHINING STAR IN THE STORM RESPONSE. UM, AND ED HIT THE NAIL RIGHT ON THE HEAD. I MEAN, IT WAS, IT WAS HIS EMPLOYEES SUITING UP AND SHOWING UP, AND WHAT A DIFFERENCE. I MEAN, WHEN IT COULD CERTAINLY BE TEMPTING TO NOT ANSWER THE PHONE WHEN THERE WAS THE POSSIBILITY OF A BILLS GAME AND ALL KINDS OF PLANS GOING ON. UH, THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT WORK IN OUR HIGHWAY AND BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS DEPARTMENT, THEY REALLY STEPPED UP AND, AND IT SHOWED. BUT BEYOND THAT, WHEN WE HAVE STORMS OF THIS INTENSITY, UM, NO MATTER HOW MANY PEOPLE WE HAVE IN HAMBURG, THERE'S EQUIPMENT THAT WE DON'T HAVE. THERE'S RESOURCES THAT WE DON'T HAVE. AND THOSE RESOURCES WERE MADE AVAILABLE AS ED MENTIONED BY OTHER NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES WHO DIDN'T GET HIT AS HARD AS WE DID THIS TIME, AS WELL AS ERIE COUNTY. THE TEAM AT ERIE COUNTY LED BY OUR COUNTY EXECUTIVE MARK POLAND CARS AND HIS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS AND HIS PUBLIC SAFETY TEAM. UH, THEY HAD MEETINGS EVERY 12 HOURS. THEY MADE SURE THE TOWNS KNEW WHAT WAS AVAILABLE AND HOW TO ACCESS THOSE RESOURCES, AND THEY MADE SURE THAT WE GOT 'EM AND THEN WE GOT 'EM QUICK AND THAT THEY WERE WELL COORDINATED. OUR, UH, BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEES WHO IN ADDITION TO ASSISTING MR. HUGHES AND HIS TEAMS FOR SNOW REMOVAL, WE'RE ALSO TASKED WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY OF KEEPING MANY OF OUR OUR TOWN FACILITIES SAFE AND ACCESSIBLE FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OTHER FIRST RESPONDERS. UH, SO THANK YOU TO, TO THOSE FOLKS AS WELL. UH, NEW YORK STATE, UH, WAS A BIG HELP IN MAKING SURE THAT OUR MAIN ROADS WERE CLEAR. SO EVEN WHEN THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS WERE TOUGH TO GET THROUGH, AT THE VERY LEAST OUR POLICE AND FIRST RESPONDERS COULD AT LEAST GET THROUGH THE MAIN ROADS TO ROADS TO, TO RESPOND TO THOSE ISSUES. OUR DISPATCH TEAM, UM, WAS PHENOMENAL THROUGH ALL THIS. UH, MR. KARATE IS RIGHT, THEY GET A LOT OF CALLS, MOST OF THEM ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND RELEVANT, AND SOME OF THEM, UM, AREN'T NECESSARILY AS RELEVANT TO A SNOWSTORM, BUT HIS TEAM HANDLES THOSE WITH, WITH GLASS AND, UH, AND, AND POLITENESS. AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC. UM, I ALSO WANNA RECOGNIZE, UH, WE, WE HAD A, A LOT OF EMPLOYEES THAT THAT REALLY, REALLY PITCHED IN, AND I HESITATE TO NAME ANY NAMES, BUT, UH, SHANNON DSKY IS HERE AND SHE SPENT THE EVENING AT THE SENIOR CENTER WITH HALF A DOZEN STRANDED MOTORISTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE NOT ONLY SAFE, WARM, COMFORTABLE, BUT THAT THEY HAD SMILES ON THEIR FACES AS WELL. SO, SHANNON, THANK YOU, UH, FOR YOUR SERVICE THERE. AND I BELIEVE IS TODAY YOUR BIRTHDAY? YEAH. HAPPY BIRTHDAY, SHANNON. I ALSO, UM, IN MY OFFICE, WE HAVE A, A POLICE SCANNER AND WE HEAR WHAT HAPPENS TYPICALLY MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY FROM NINE TO FIVE. THIS STORM PUT ME IN PROXIMITY OF A POLICE SCANNER IN THE OFF HOURS, AND I GOT A BETTER TASTE OF WHAT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT DEALS WITH ON THE WEEKENDS [04:40:01] AND IN THE EVENINGS. AND IT'S A DIFFERENT STORY THAN WHAT YOU HEAR MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. AND CHIEF, I JUST WANT TO COMMEND YOUR OFFICERS AND YOUR TEAMS FOR, YOU KNOW, THEY TALK ABOUT LAW ENFORCEMENT BEING, UM, HOURS OF BOREDOM AND MOMENTS OF TERROR WITH A STORM. I KNOW THAT THERE WAS NO HOURS OF BOREDOM, BUT THOSE MOMENTS OF TERROR PERSISTED FOR, FOR YOUR OFFICES OFFICERS. AND THEY SHOULD CERTAINLY BE COMMENDED. AND I WANNA COMMEND, UH, CERTAINLY YOUR SWAT TEAM FOR YOUR RESPONSE TO WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN A DEADLY SITUATION IN OUR COMMUNITY ON FRIDAY NIGHT, BUT WAS HANDLED WITH EVERYBODY, UH, BEING SAFE AND THE RIGHT PERSON IN CUSTODY. SO KUDOS TO YOUR OFFICERS WHO CERTAINLY WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR COMMUNITY WAS SAFE ON FRIDAY EVENING. UM, AND THEN I JUST WANNA REITERATE THE ACCOLADES THAT HAVE BEEN SHARED FOR MR. BABST. UM, HE, HE'S BEEN WITH US A LONG TIME. I KNEW MR. BABST BEFORE HE WAS A MEMBER OF THE TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD, IF YOU CAN BELIEVE THAT. UH, HE WAS OUR MAILMAN, UH, AND SERVED, SERVED OUR COMMUNITY WELL IN THAT CAPACITY. SO, UH, BEST WISHES TO MR. BABST AS HE, UH, PURSUES NEW ENDEAVORS. UH, LET ME JUST CHECK AND MAKE SURE I DIDN'T MISS ANYTHING. NO, I THINK THAT'S IT. UM, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? EXTENSIONS CARRIED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.