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          FOLKS, 
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WE'RE GONNA GET THIS MEETING STARTED. 
          PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF THE FLAG PLEDGE. 
          PLEDGE THE FLAG FROM THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. 
          CONSIDER REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, NATION UNDER GOD. 
          INVIS VOTE WITH THE LIBERTY I JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          TYPICALLY WE DO NOT TAKE A ROLL CALL FOR THE WORK SESSION, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THIS IS OUR THIRD MEETING. 
          UH, AND WE HAVE FOUR BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT AND WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THE FIFTH. 
          OKAY. 
          DO ANY OF, UH, MY COLLEAGUES ON THE TOWN BOARD, HAVE WE HEARD FROM MR. BALKI? DOES HE INTEND ON JOINING US THIS EVENING? OKAY, SO WE HAVE A FULL WORK SESSION AGENDA. 
          WE HAVE FOUR SEPARATE PRESENTATIONS PLANNED. 
          THE FIRST IS GONNA BE AN EMS PRESENTATION, WHICH IS GONNA BE LED BY MR. PIKAL AS WELL AS SOME MEMBERS FROM OUR VOLUNTEER FIRE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, I WAS ALSO, UH, HOPING TO HEAR FROM MR. FARRELL. 
          UH, HE'S ALSO NOT HERE, UM, FOR AN UPDATE FROM OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT. 
          UH, MR. ATIA, ARE YOU REPRESENTING MR. FERRELL THIS EVENING? I BELIEVE MR. FERRELL'S. 
          I BELIEVE HE WILL BE HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          COMING IN THE DOOR NOW. 
          AND, UH, THEN I HAVE A, UH, BRIEF PRESENTATION ON A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION PROGRAM THAT WE DISCUSSED LAST YEAR, AND THEN WE HAVE A PLANNING UPDATE FROM, UH, MS. SAMUEL. 
          SO LET'S GET STARTED WITH THE, UH, EMS PRESENTATION. 
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WE TALKED ABOUT THE A MR CONTRACT, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE NEEDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IN ORDER TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS. 
          UM, THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT WERE HERE LAST PERIOD, DAN DID, UH, PRESENTATION THAT WAS A LOT OF THE SAME AS THIS, BUT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO KEEP EVERYONE UP TO SPEED AND WHERE WE'RE HOPING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE TON OF AMBER EMS COMMITTEE, UM, THE EMERGENCY SERVICES DIVISION OF THE TON OF PAM, FIRE CHIEF ASSOCIATION, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REPRESENTING HERE. 
          FELLOW CHIEF'S HERE TO SHOW SUPPORT AT THIS, UH, PLAN. 
          THE MISSION STATEMENT OF THIS GROUP IS TO ESTABLISH A PROGRESSIVELY PRO PROFESSIONAL EMS ORGANIZATION WITH THE SOLE RESPONSIBILITY OF PROVIDING ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT CARE TO THE CITIZENS AND VISITORS OF THE TOWN AND VILLAGES IN HAMBURG AND GLADSTONE. 
          WE, OUR NAME, OUR NAME INTERNALLY IS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, UH, EMS ENHANCEMENT COMMITTEE. 
          IT WAS FORMED BACK IN 2020. 
          UM, EACH DEPARTMENT HAS TWO APPOINTEES TO THE COMMITTEE. 
          THE CHIEFS AT THAT TIME SIGNED OFF ON THEM WITH THE HOPES THAT WE'D HAVE A CONSISTENT COMMITTEE AND IT WOULDN'T CHANGE OVER EVERY YEAR AND BEEN PRETTY SUCCESSFUL. 
          SO MOST OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE BEEN CONSISTENT SINCE THIS FORM IN 2020. 
          THE OBJECTIVES OF THIS ORGANIZATION WAS TO ESTABLISH A NOT-FOR-PROFIT ORGANIZATION WHOSE SOLE RESPONSIBILITY IS TO DELIVER EMERGENCY CARE TO THE RESIDENCE AND VISITORS OF HAMBURG. 
          ENSURE PROMPT, PROFESSIONAL AND ADVANCED PRE-LIFE PRE-HOSPITAL CARE ESTABLISH AN EMS SYSTEM THAT COMBINES VOLUNTEER AND PAID MEMBERS AND ENSURES ALL ENTITIES ARE APPROPRIATELY, APPROPRIATELY REPRESENTED IN THE DECISION MAKING AND ABORIGINAL PROCESS OF THIS UNIT. 
          WE IDENTIFIED THE NEEDS OF WHAT WE NEEDED WITHIN THE POUND PROVIDE THE CMS AGENCY. 
          UM, THE PRIMARY AGENCY IS EXPECTED TO RESPOND AND EFFECTIVELY RESPOND TO ALL REQUESTS FOR EMS. UM, CURRENTLY WE HAVE A COMMERCIAL AGENCY THAT IS ON PAPER OUR BACKUP, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THEY'RE BECOMING OVERWHELMED IN THE BACKUP AGENCY IS ACTUALLY HANDLING THE LION'S SHARED CALLS. 
          UM, IT'S A LOT OF WORK FOR VOLUNTEERS WITH THE CALL NUMBERS AND HOW ARE INCREASING WITH THE TONE. 
          UM, SAYS THEY'VE INCREASED. 
          THESE ARE CALL NUMBERS THAT SHOW HOW MUCH THEY'VE CHANGED SINCE 2010 TO 2023. 
          THOSE ARE JUST A RAW CALL NUMBERS. 
          SO THEY'RE JUST A CALLS WITHIN THE DISTRICT THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE ALL THE MUTUAL AID REQUESTS AND WERE BEING TAP MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS FOR MULTIPLE CALLS. 
          SO JUST THE RAW NUMBERS INTO TOWN FROM 2010 TO 2023 HAS GONE BASICALLY 50%. 
          ONLY REASON IT DROPPED A LITTLE IN 2023 IS BECAUSE IN 2022 WE HAD A COUPLE BIG STORMS LIKE YEAR, SO THAT TOOK A PRETTY BIG INCREASE IN DEVELOPERS. 
          SO LAST YEAR THERE WAS JUST SHY OF 6,000 EMS CALLS WITHIN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG. 
          SO OUR SOLUTION IS TO CREATE AN EMS SYSTEM WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE TOWN. 
          UM, IT'LL BE AN EXTENSION OF THE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION JUST LIKE THE WATER RESCUE UNIT IS NOW. 
          UM, WE NEED DESIGNATED OPERATIONS MANAGER. 
          IT WILL BE TO LIAISON TO TOWN OF HAMBURG, CHIEF FIRE CHIEFS, TOWN OF HAMBURG, AND THE EMS SYSTEM. 
          AND WE'LL USE A BILLING SCALE TO RECOUP OPERATION COST AND WORK WITH OUR PARTNER AGENCIES ON THAT. 
          WE'LL BE A FIVE ONE C3, WHICH WE'RE USING THE FIVE ONE C3 STATUS OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG FIRE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION. 
          UM, RIGHT NOW OUR HOPE IN THIS, WHERE WE'RE LOOKING TO MOVE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION RIGHT NOW IS TO HAVE A COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT WITH THE GARY COUNTY EMS. THEY CURRENTLY STARTED OR RECENTLY STARTED OWN EMS SYSTEM. 
          THEY HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF NEED THAT INCORPORATES THE WHOLE ENTIRE TOWN OF HAMBURG OR WHOLE ENTIRE COUNTY. 
          AND IF WE CAN OPERATE UNDER THEM, IT CAN REALLY SMOOTH OUT AND MAKE OUR OPERATIONS SMOOTHER AND QUICKER AND, UM, HELP WITH MUTUAL AID IN THE FUTURE AND INCREASE OUR CAPABILITIES. 
          UM, BY WORKING UNDER THAT, THEY HAVE A LOT OF THE OPERATIONAL END OF IT THAT WE COULD KINDA WORK OFF OF AND MAKE OUR SYSTEM EASIER TO GO. 
          UM, BILLING WOULD BE COMPLETE BY OUTSIDE VENDOR. 
          MOST AGENCIES WITHIN THE TOWN ARE ALREADY USING AN OUTSIDE VENDOR. 
          AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE A PERCENTAGE OF IT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE ERIE COUNTY, WHICH WOULD BE A CONTRACTED AMOUNT VENDOR US WOULD COME DIRECTLY BACK TO THE AGENCY THAT HANDLED THE CALL CERTIFICATE. 
          NO CERTIFICATE OF NEED PROCESS IS WHAT THIS C UM, CERTIFICATION THROUGH NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH IS FOR EACH AGENCY. 
          EVERY AGENCY HAS TO RENEW EVERY TWO YEARS. 
          IT IS A VERY CUMBERSOME TASK AND NEW YORK STATE MAKES IT KIND OF DIFFICULT FOR A NEW AGENCY TO START. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA BE USING A MUNICIPAL CO ONE TO MAKE THIS WORK WITHIN A TOWN OF PAPER. 
          WELL, IT'LL BE ACCOUNTING SORT OF TOWNS RIGHT NOW WE'RE MAKE EASIER. 
          IT'LL BE COUNTY OF AREA, BUT 
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THERE'S A CO ONE PROCESS, THE UNICON, IT'S KIND OF JUST GOES IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL OF IT. 
          AND THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE EMS DIVISION WILL BE DONE THROUGH THE HAMMER FIRE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION. 
          A CONTRACTUAL BASIS. 
           KIND OF LOOK THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SIDE. 
          IT CURRENTLY OUR CURRENT THIRD PARTY SERVICE CONTRACT, UM, WE CURRENTLY, OR WE JUST RESIGNED A NEW CONTRACT WITH AM OR WE ARE FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS. 
          THERE ARE BACKUPS. 
          SO WE'LL BE, HOPEFULLY WE'LL MAINTAIN OUR BACKUP SERVICE IN THE MEANTIME UNTIL WE CAN GET THIS REALLY UP AND RUNNING. 
          BUT WE DO HAVE TO WITHIN A CONTRACT 30 DAYS TO DROP OUT OF IT IF NEEDED. 
          UM, THE NINE DEPARTMENTS WITHIN A TON OF HAND BREAK 12 IN SUCCESSFULLY STAFF IN AMBULANCES ON TOWN WHITE VOLUNTEER STANDBYS. 
          UM, I BELIEVE YESTERDAY TWO DIFFERENT AMBULANCE WERE STANDBY THROUGH THE TOWN AND THEN THEY'RE HELPING COVER ALL THE CALLS WITHIN TOWN OF AMBER. 
          UM, I THINK IT'S BEEN PRETTY SUCCESSFUL AT THIS TIME. 
          IT'S HELPED KEEP THE COMMERCIAL SERVICES AVAILABLE AND FOR THE CALLS THAT THEY'RE TRULY NEEDED FOR. 
          AND THEN OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE WORKING IN STANDBY PROGRAMS WITHIN DEPARTMENTS. 
          SO IT MIGHT NOT BE NECESSARILY ON STANDBY FOR THE WHOLE TOWN, BUT INTERNALLY WITHIN THEIR OWN AGENCY, THEY'RE WORKING AT STANDBY. 
          SO IT GETS A QUICKER RESPONSE FOR THE CALLS WHEN THEY GO OUT. 
          UM, THIS IS OBVIOUSLY NOT A LONG TERM SOLUTION. 
          VOLUNTEERS CAN'T HANDLE EVERYTHING THAT THEM 6,000 CALLS INTO TOWN. 
          THAT'S A LOT TO BE ASKING FOR VOLUNTEERS. 
          UM, FOR THOSE DON'T KNOW, AN EMS CALL CAN LAST ANYWHERE FROM AN HOUR TO THREE HOURS. 
          WHEN WE GO TO THE HOSPITAL, YOU GET STUCK IN THE HOSPITAL AND JUST WAITING AND THEN WHEN YOU COME BACK YOU MIGHT END UP ON ANOTHER ONE. 
          SO IT IS STAYS, YOU GO ON ONE CALL AND THEN SIX HOURS LATER HOPEFULLY YOU GET BACK HOME. 
          UM, IT'S JUST A VERY CUMBERSOME SYSTEM, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE LOOKING TO ENHANCE. 
          SO THE VOLUNTEERS CAN WORK WITH A BETTER PAID SYSTEM. 
          INITIAL COST TO OPERATION WILL REMAIN WITH THE INDIVIDUAL FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          SO SUPPLIES AND EVERYTHING ARE CURRENTLY BEING HANDLED BY EACH INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, WE'RE DOING, UH, STOCKING AND TRAINING WITHIN. 
          AND THEN OBVIOUSLY AS THE SYSTEM PROGRESSES, WORK WITH THE TON OF AIR THE SYSTEM TO SEE IF THE, UM, FUNDING AND OPERATIONS AND SUPPLIES WILL BE HANDLED WITHIN TOWN SYSTEM RATHER THAN EACH INDIVIDUAL AGENCY. 
          AND THAT CAN HELP STREAMLINE SUPPLIES TO FOR CHEAPER IF WE'RE BUYING 'EM A BIGGER BULK AND WHATNOT. 
          AND THE TOWN OF CHIEF ASSOCIATION, LIKE WE SAID, WE USE A THIRD PARTY BILLING SYSTEM TO HELP THE OPERATIONAL COSTS. 
          UM, THAT'S JUST A BALLPARK ON THE CURRENT RATES. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? IS THAT ACCURATE? RIGHT NOW THAT'S ACCURATE. 
          NOW YOU WON'T SEE THAT AS A TOTAL RETURN ON, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S WHAT WE REQUEST FROM THE BILLING, BUT IT IT END UP BEING AROUND 42% IN THE END OF THAT. 
          WHAT YOU SEE, EACH AGENCY OR EACH BILLING COMPANY I BELIEVE HAS A, WE CONTRACTED AMOUNT WITH INSURANCE COMPANIES. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, IT GOES FROM SELF PAID, UH, BLUE CROSS, BLUE SHIELD, MEDICARE, MEDICAID. 
          IT'S REALLY ALL IN A BILLING COMPANY. 
          COVERS A LOT OF THE COSTS OF OUR SOFTWARE COMPANY AND THAT'S PART OF THE CONTRACT WITH THEM. 
          BILLING COMPANY KEEPS $35 PER A BILLABLE CHART THAT WE SEND 'EM. 
          SO, AND THEN FOR THE CO FOR THE AMBULANCES THAT GO ON A CALL WITH THE TOWN OF HAMBURG MS SYSTEM, THERE'LL BE A, A RECOVERY SPLIT. 
          OVER 70% STAYS WITHIN THE TOWN MS SYSTEM. 
          30% WILL GO BACK TO THE AGENCY WHEN THE TOWN MS EMPLOYEES ARE YOU WILLING TO CALL? THAT'S JUST ANOTHER FEE SCHEDULE. 
          UM, THAT WAS LAST YEAR. 
          I DID NOT I TO CHECK IF IT 2024 WE GET UPDATED. 
          IT IT DOES, IT DOES UPDATE, BUT IT STILL HAS TO GO FOR A REPRIMAND FOR YOU. 
          YOU GUYS HAVE PUT IT BACK IN THAT WASTE, BUT YOU PASSED ORIGINALLY, WHICH WE HAVEN'T DONE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO EACH CALL WILL BE HOVER COVERED. 
          WE ONLY HAVE THREE PARAMEDIC AGENCIES WITHIN A TON OF P LAKEVIEW BASED IN LAKESHORE. 
          SO FOR CALLS WE DON'T HAVE AM R AROUND AND THOSE AGENCIES HAVE TO HANDLE THE PARAMEDIC END OF IT. 
          THEY'LL BE EATING THE COST OF THE PARAMEDIC SUPPLIES AT FOR THE, AT LEAST THE TIME BEING UNTIL THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS UP AND RUNNING AND LIKE YOU SAID CAN BE RECOUPED BY BILLING PROTOCOLS FOR EACH OF THE ABILITY TO SEE A BILL SENT EVERY PATIENT FOR SERVICE. 
          UM, WE HAVE TO AT LEAST SEND THEM ONE BILL AND WE WILL NOT SEND BILLS TO COLLECTIONS. 
          WE'RE NOT TRYING TO FORCE ANYONE INTO DEBT OR ANYTHING. 
          WE'RE HOPING, WELL OUR GOAL IS TO JUST RECOUP FROM THE INSURANCE COMPANIES, BUT WE DO HAVE TO SEND A BILL AND OVER THE INSURANCE S LIKE I SAID, 
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A BILL. 
          NO. 
          SO I THINK FROM THE TOWN'S END, ESPECIALLY YOU GUYS UP THERE, YOU PROBABLY WOULDN'T LOOK AT WHERE DO MY RESIDENTS BENEFIT. 
          UNLIKE NOW IF A MR TAKES THEM AND I'M NOT BASHING 'EM, THEY'RE DOING, THAT'S THEIR JOB. 
          THEY SERVICE, THEY WILL GET, THEY GO COLLECTION. 
          IF THEY DON'T PAY OR THEIR INSURANCE COMPANY DOESN'T PAY THE ENTIRE BILL, THEY'LL SEND GOOD COLLECTIONS. 
          SO IT'S HARD PRESSED FOR SOMEBODY TO DECIDE WHO I CALL AMBULANCE AGAIN WHEN I NEED IT OR DO I, DO I EAT? 'CAUSE A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE THAT HAVE ALWAYS PAID THEIR BILLS, PAY THEIR BILLS, THEY'LL FIND A WAY TO PAY THEIR BILLS. 
          THIS SYSTEM HERE, THE SYSTEM THAT LIKE I CAN SPEAK FOR VICTORY IN THE CHEAP OF VICTORY. 
          WE DON'T BILL OUR RESIDENTS, WE TAKE 'EM IN. 
          WHATEVER WE GET, WE GET IF THEY'RE SELF-PAY OR THE INSURANCE COMPANY SENT THEM THE CHECK, 'CAUSE SOME INSURANCE COMPANIES WILL DO THAT. 
          WE WILL SEND THAT THOSE PEOPLE TO COLLECTIONS BECAUSE THEY ELECTED THAT FOR THEMSELVES. 
          I BELIEVE THE LODGE IS CHANGED IN THAT DOOR. 
          IT COME IN APRIL, THEY'RE NO LONGER, THE INSURANCE COMPANIES WILL NO LONGER SEND THAT CHECKS TO THE RESIDENTS OR THE PATIENT. 
          SO THAT'LL STRAIGHTEN ITSELF OUT. 
          LIKE YOU DO HAVE THOSE PEOPLE THAT ALMOST IT'S BECOME A BUSINESS FOR THEM. 
          THEY CALL AN AMBULANCE WEEKLY TO GET THE INSURANCE CHECKS SENT TO THEM. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO CURTAIL THAT BEFORE IT GETS OUT OF HERE. 
          BUT REALLY SO FOR THE RESIDENTS, THAT'S THE WIN FOR THE TOWN GLOBALLY. 
          FOR THE TOWN. 
          THE WINNER IS THAT YOU HAVE PAID STAFF ON TIME, AMBULANCE SERVICE, RELIABLE SERVICE. 
          I'M A VOLUNTEER. 
          I GET IT. 
          YOU NEVER KNOW. 
          WE'RE NOT RELIABLE. 
          I WILL SAY THAT WE'RE NOT RELIABLE. 
          WE TRY TO BE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE TIME. 
          WE TRY TO BE, BUT WE'RE NOT. 
          THAT'S A FACT. 
          NICK DISPATCHES, HE'LL TELL YOU A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE TIME, ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT. 
          GOOD LUCK. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO GET, SO WE'RE CHANGING THOSE THINGS. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO. 
          A MR. ARE THEY GOOD BACKUP? YEAH, BUT AGAIN, NOT RELIABLE. 
          WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE AT HALF THE TIME, IF ANY OF THE TIME OUR RESIDENTS CAN SIT FOR MANY MINUTE MINUTES AND THEY'RE EXPECTING AN AMBULANCE AND NOBODY'S SHOWING UP. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO PREVENT IT. 
          SO THERE'S A WIN-WIN FOR EVERYBODY HERE. 
          AND AT THE SAME TIME, THE SYSTEM SHOULD PAY FOR ITSELF. 
          I JUST DO A LITTLE SPEECH ON THIS TO MY OWN FIREFIGHTERS TO PAY A SEVEN DAY A WEEK AND 12 TO 12 AMBULANCE STAFF OF ONE BASIC ENT AND ONE PARAMEDIC IS LESS THAN $20,000 A MONTH FOR A 12 HOURS PERIOD. 
          SO OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN DOUBLE THAT. 
          YOU CAN DO THE MATH. 
          THAT'S LESS THAN $40,000 A MONTH FOR ONE WHOLE AMBULANCE FOR 24 HOUR SERVICE. 
          NOW THERE'S SOME HIDDEN COSTS IN THERE. 
          THAT'S JUST THE PAY PART. 
          IT, THERE'S INSURANCES AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND WE'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH. 
          BUT AFTER THE INITIAL STARTUP IT ISN'T REALLY THAT MUCH MORE, THE WHOLE THING EVERY MONTH WOULD BE ABOUT 27,000 PER 12 HOUR SHIFT. 
          THIS IS PROJECTED BASED ON THE CALL. 
          WE HAVE TO MAKE SIX TIMES THAT EASILY. 
          AND THAT'S BASED ON 42% THAT WE CERTAIN SMART COMPANIES HAVE ALREADY BUILT, HAVE EXPERIENCED. 
          BECAUSE WE NEVER, WE DIDN'T REALLY KNOW GOING IN THIS LIKE WELL MAYBE WE'LL MAKE A FEW DOLLARS HERE OR THERE. 
          MAYBE WE'LL JUST PAY FOR ITSELF. 
          BUT IT'S DONE MORE THAN THAT. 
          SO I'LL SPEAK TO VICTORY AND I'M NOT GONNA HIDE ANY FACTS HERE. 
          WE'VE MADE OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS JUST IN THE SMALL PERCENTAGE OF CALLS THAT WE'VE DONE. 
          AND WE ONLY ANSWER 18 POINT. 
          WE ONLY TRANSPORT 18.75% OF OUR CALLS. 
          JUST IN MY OWN CLARIFY. 
          THE ONE FIFTH OF THE TIME WE'RE THAT ARE ELIGIBLE TO TRANSPORT WE, THAT'S HOW MUCH WE'VE MADE IN INSURANCE MONEY, NOT FROM THE RESIDENTS INSURANCE COMP COMPANIES ALL ALONE. 
          NOW THAT'S JUST ONE, WELL, TWO PART COMPANIES TECHNICALLY. 
          'CAUSE WE COVER BLADES THOUGH. 
          BUT THAT'S JUST TWO PLACES OUT OF THE NINE. 
          THE MONEY IS THERE, WE JUST NEED TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS. 
          SAID A LOT OF THAT MONEY RIGHT NOW IS GONNA THE FIRST PART COMPANY OPERATION. 
          SO IF WE CAN KEEP IT HERE AND KEEP IT WITHIN THE DEPARTMENTS OF OF TOWN, I CAN, IT'S A WIN FOR ALL OF US. 
          YEAH, SIX YEARS AGO THE INSURANCE COMPANY RAISED EVERYBODY'S RATES IF THEY KNEW IT OR NOT, TO INCLUDE AMBULANCE SERVICE. 
          IF I'M AN INSURANCE COMPANY, I LOVE THE VOLUNTEERS. 
          IF YOU'VE BEEN TAKING MY PATIENTS IN THREE, THAT'S MONEY IN MY POCKET IS AN INSURANCE COMPANY A LITTLE BIT ON STAFFING. 
          UM, WE KNOW THE BEGINNING OF IT, WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A LOT OF MONEY TO HIRE EVERYONE. 
          SO IT'S GONNA BE A SPLIT SCHEDULE. 
          WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING VOLUNTEERS WITH PAID STAFF AND WE REALLY WANT TO KEEP THE VOLUNTEERS A PART OF THIS. 
          WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO ELIMINATE VOLUNTEERS, BUT IT'S GONNA BE A PROGRESSIVE SYSTEM. 
          SO UNTIL WE START MORE MONEY AND HAVING MORE MONEY IN THE PATH TO HIRE PEOPLE, IT'S GONNA BE A FLUID AND A CHAMPION SYSTEM. 
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PAID STAFF TANYA TWO ASSOCIATES WILL BE A HIRING AGENCY. 
          UM, GONNA BE LOOKING FOR PART-TIME EMPLOYEES AT FIRST UNTIL WE CAN ESTABLISH MORE FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO HIRE FULL-TIME AND GIVING BENEFITS AND ALL, EVERYTHING LIKE THAT IS A FULL TIME IN PLAY, OBVIOUSLY COSTS A LOT MORE. 
          UM, IF WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE ER COUNTY, WHICH WE'RE AIMING FOR, ANY PROVIDER UNDER HERE, COUNTY MS WILL BE ALLOWED TO WORK UNDER HAM PERHAM FIRE TWO ASSOCIATION MS IT COULD BE A WORKING RELATIONSHIP WE HAVE WITH ERIE COUNTY MS OR UH, UM, OUR PROPOSED AGENCY. 
          IT'S UNIQUE. 
          UNLIKE WORKING FOR A COMMERCIAL AGENCY, EVERYTHING WOULD SAY WITHIN THE TOWN HAMMER, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE GOING TO A CALL IN THE CITY AND THEN YOU HAVE TO SWITCH A COVER A BUFFALO CALL OR GO TO COVERAGE CALL. 
          OBVIOUSLY THERE'LL BE SOME MUTUAL AID WHERE YOU MIGHT END UP ON A CALL, MAYBE IN A NEIGHBORING JURISDICTION, BUT YOU'RE GONNA COME BACK INTO A TOWN, YOU'RE GONNA COME BACK INTO REPORT IT YOU FIRE DEPARTMENT HERE. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE THIS IS GONNA BE MUCH DIFFERENT THAN IF YOU'RE WORKING FOR COMMERCIAL EMS. UM, IS THE SYSTEM PROGRESSES AND THE CALLS ARE GOING UNDER TOWN OF HANDLING EMS. THERE WOULD BE HAVE TO BE A CONTRACT WITH EACH FIRE DEPARTMENT TO LEASING THE AMBULANCE WHEN A CALL GOES OUT JUST TO HELP COVER BILLING. 
          BUT THAT'S, IT'S ALL A PAPERWORK THING THAT WILL WORK ON ONCE THE CLN ASSIGNED. 
          UM, EACH WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR HANDLING THE BASIC CARDIAC HUNDRED, WHICH IS THE LAW IS REQUIRING THE SUPPLIES OR THAT THE SUPPLIES THAT YOUR AMBULANCE NEEDS AND THEY'LL MAINTAIN THE MAINTENANCE AND FUEL COST AND OBVIOUSLY AS TIME GOES ON THAT'LL BE REVISITED AS THE SYSTEM WILL BE VERY FLUID. 
          UM, THE INSURANCE AND THE BEGINNING COSTS WILL BE COVERED. 
          COVERED THROUGH THE AGENCY AND THE TOWN FIRE ASSOCIATION HEALTH COVER, THE BEGINNING INSURANCE COSTS ONCE THEIR TOWN OF HAMBURG OR TOWN OF PDM ASSOCIATION EMPLOYEES. 
          AND THAT'LL BE PAID BACK AS WE GET REIMBURSED THROUGH INSURANCE COMPANIES. 
          OBVIOUSLY WE TALKED ABOUT GOING INTO COUNTY EM OR COUNTY CON, THAT'S UH, A LITTLE FLUID RIGHT NOW. 
          WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE NO CONFLICTS OF INTEREST WITH THEM. 
          SO RIGHT NOW WE THINK WE'RE SENT THE R CONTRACT TO MAKE SURE YOU NO CONFLICT WITH THEM WORKING WITH US. 
          SO THE ACCOUNTANTS' LOOKING AT THEY'RE READY BEFORE WE SEND ANYTHING OR APPROVE ANYTHING, WE'RE JUST GONNA MAKE SURE THE DUCKS ON OUR OWN. 
          WE'RE NOT GONNA GET IN ANY TROUBLE WITH MR COUNTY. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE WITH THIS RIGHT NOW. 
          AND I DO REALIZE YOU JUST SIGNED A CONTRACT WITH A MR, WHICH IS PERFECT FOR THREE YEARS. 
          NO BETTER TIME TO START OR TRY TO START THIS 'CAUSE YOU HAVE A BACKUP, RELIABLE BACKUP OR RELIABLE AS IT'S GONNA BE BACKUP. 
          IF THIS FALLS DOWN, YOU LOST NOTHING. 
          BUT IF IT KICKS OFF AND IT WORKS, YOU'VE GAINED A HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          WHAT WHAT WE'RE MISSING NOW. 
          ANY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW? I KNOW THINGS ARE GONNA . 
          I I GOT A FEW. 
          UM, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED GOING ON WITH THE COUNTY AND YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE INSURANCE, UH, AND THING. 
          IS THE COUNTY GONNA TAKE ON ANY RESPONSIBILITY IF YOU GO UNDER THEIR UMBRELLA OR WHERE, HOWEVER YOU WANNA PHRASE IT? WHAT'S THAT WOULD BE A BACKUP SERVICE? YEAH, THEY OUR BACKUP SERVICE. 
          SO WE NO, I MEAN ARE THEY GONNA, YOU, YOU MENTIONED THE INSURANCE IS IS THE COUNTY GONNA COVER ANY OF THAT OR YOU KNOW, LIKE UNDER THEIR UMBRELLA? NO, I BELIEVE OUR CONTRACT WITH THEM, WE'D STILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. 
          IT WOULD BE, IT'D BE MORE OF A BILLING AGREEMENT WITH THROUGH THEM. 
          SO THEY'RE NOT GONNA OVERRULE YOUR PRESIDENT, WHOEVER YOU DECIDE. 
          WELL, THEY MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT THE OPERATIONS SIDE OF IT, WE'D HAVE TO MAKE SURE OUR OPERAT OUR OPERATIONS DON'T DIFFER FROM THEIRS OR OBVIOUSLY GO OUTSIDE THE BOX. 
          BUT OUR OPERATIONS WILL BE HANDLED TOTALLY WITHIN AND THEN ONLY STILL SO, WELL THE SAME STANDARDS HAVE TO BE USED AS A CON, BUT MOST OF US USE THE SAME STANDARDS ANYWAY. 
          AND I I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE PAY AND YOU KNOW, IF WE GET IT, WE GET IT. 
          WE DON'T, WE DON'T. 
          SO LIKE MEDICAID OR JUST, LET'S TAKE FOR INSTANCE, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE AT THAT HOTEL. 
          IF THEY'RE USING A SYSTEM AS YOU SAID, GETTING A PAYCHECK AND UH, NOT, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A PROBLEM PAYING INSURANCE, RIGHT? THAT'S THIRD PARTY INSURANCE WILL DO THAT. 
          NOT MEDICARE AND MEDICAID, SINCE IT'S SOMETHING CALLED AN NPI NUMBER. 
          IF YOUR, YOUR DOCTORS HAVE IT, HOSPITALS HAVE IT. 
          THAT'S HOW THEY PAY. 
          THEY PAY THE NPI NOT THE PERSON. 
          AND THAT ISSUE WE TALKED ABOUT SHOULD BE NOLAN VOID IN A COUPLE MONTHS BECAUSE THE LAWS CHANGED THAT INSURANCE COMPANIES HAVE TO SEND IT TO THE PROVIDING AGENCY VERSUS THE PATIENT THEMSELVES. 
          NOW, I, EXCUSE ME, UM, YOU HAVE A 5 0 1 3 C OKAY, IT'S GONNA BE ONE, ONE SPOT. 
          ARE YOU GONNA SHARE THAT WITH THE REST OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS OR IS THAT JUST GONNA GO RIGHT INTO THE UH, A EMS? SO IT'S, IT'S A 70 30 SPLIT TO START WITH 30% FOR WHATEVER AMBULANCE RESPONDED. 
          THERE'S OPERATIONAL COSTS THAT HAVE TO BE COVERED, GAS, MAINTENANCE, ALL THAT STUFF. 
          AND WE'RE IN SO 30% FOR THE, FOR THE FIRE COMPANY THAT'S SPONSORING THE AMBULANCE. 
          AND THE OTHER 70% BACK IN THE SYSTEM OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO PAY PEOPLE. 
          SO 70% GO BACK INTO TOWN CHIEFS 
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TALKERS FOR THE INSURANCES AND THE PAY. 
          AND IF WE BREAK EVEN, WE'LL BE IT, BUT WE'RE PROVIDING THE SERVICE. 
          SO HOW MANY EMPLOYEES YOU THINK YOU'RE, I MEAN, 'CAUSE YOU GOT, YOU GOT SEVEN, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. 
          SURE, SURE. 
          SO IF THERE'S MANY DIFFERENT THINGS YOU LOOK AT. 
          SO TO START WITH, I I, THIS IS ME TALKING, IT'S NOT THE, I WOULD SAY VOTE FOR DM TO START WITH BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING GUARANTEED, NO GUARANTEED HOURS WITH PER DIEM. 
          BUT IF YOU GET PART-TIME TO FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES, THERE DEFINITELY IS. 
          SO ONLY ONE GUY SHOWS UP, YOU'RE STUCK PAYING THAT GUY FOR WHATEVER HE SHIFTED. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEY KNOW WHAT'S HE GONNA DO BY HIMSELF AND PROBABLY NOT A WHOLE LOT. 
          WELL I IT'S GOTTA BE VERY FLUID AT THE BEGINNING, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          'CAUSE I'M, I'M JUST THINKING YOU'VE GOT THE NINE, NINE FACILITIES, YOU'VE GOT, I'M SURE EVERY ONE OF US EMS QUALIFIED. 
          SO I MEAN, IF, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD, YOU KNOW, ONE GUY, YOU KNOW, OR TWO GUYS A DAY OR SOMETHING TO THAT NATURE, YOU PAY, YOU KNOW, YOU GET A 24 HOUR P YOU GET A 24 HOUR, YOU GET A 24 HOUR AND JUST DO A CYCLE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THAT'S A NUTS, IT'S NUTS AND BOLTS. 
          WE REALLY HAVEN'T GOTTEN IN THE WEEDS WITH THIS STUFF, BUT THAT ALWAYS IS AN OPTION. 
          I DON'T WANNA SEE THE WHOLE THING. 
          YEAH, THE WHOLE THING IS TO GET THIS MOVING. 
          SO ONCE WE GET IT MOVING, WE CAN GET INTO, YOU KNOW, LIKE I COULD ALREADY TELL YOU WHAT EXACTLY, UH, WORKMAN'S COMP IS GONNA BE. 
          'CAUSE YOU, YOU NO LONGER ARE IN VOLUNTEERING WHEN SOME ON DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS PAYING YOU, IT'S $5 AND 60 CENTS ON A HUNDRED. 
          THAT'S AN INCURRED COST. 
          I BELIEVE ONCE YOU START A 5 0 1 3 C THEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE CUT OFF FROM THE TOWN AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHY THE PEOPLE WILL BE SEPARATED AND THE AMBULANCES WILL BE LEASED OR RENTED OR HOWEVER YOU WANNA PRONOUNCE THAT TO, TO THIS ORGANIZATION TO BE ABLE TO LEAD YOU. 
          UH, GOOD EVENING, FRANK BALKI, NICE TO MEET YOU. 
          UM, THANK YOU FOR, UH, DOING WHAT YOU DO AS VOLUNTEERS, UM, FOR OUR, OUR COMMUNITY. 
          IT'S, UH, VERY VALUABLE, UM, WHAT YOU DO AND WE, WE ALL APPRECIATE IT AS, AS, AS A TOWN BOARD. 
          UM, PIGGYBACKING, UM, ON WHAT COUNCILMAN  JUST SAID, UH, WHAT WOULD THE CAPITAL COST BE, UH, FOR, FOR GETTING THE EQUIPMENT AND SO FORTH. 
          I KNOW THAT COULD BE PRETTY EXPENSIVE. 
          YOU MENTIONED A LEASE AND SO FORTH. 
          WHAT'S THAT?  RIGHT NOW, AT THE BEGINNING, EVERYTHING'S BEING COVERED INTERNALLY BY A FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          SO IT'S KIND HARD 'CAUSE LIKE HE'S IN BIG TRIM AND . 
          SO OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT'S HANDLING OUR OWN SUPPLY COSTS RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING. 
          WE ALREADY OWN THE AMBULANCES. 
          SO ONCE WE GO OUT ON OUR OWN AND THINGS PROGRESS, THE SYSTEM MAY LOOK INTO BUYING AMBULANCES. 
          BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE SURE I UNDERSTAND HOW YOU WORK AND, AND I MEAN I, NOT AS WELL AS YOU, BUT IN A SENSE THAT, YOU KNOW, SAY I LIVE, YOU KNOW, LAKE SHORE IS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT THAT PROVIDES GREAT SERVICE TO, TO MY, MY, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UM, AND THEY HAVE THEIR OWN AND BIGTREE HAS THEIR OWN. 
          BUT GOING FORWARD WHEN IF YOU ARE A 5 0 1 C3, UH, NOT-FOR-PROFIT CORPORATION, I PRESUME YOU'RE GONNA WANT TO HAVE YOUR OWN EQUIPMENT, RIGHT? I MEAN, MAYBE NOT. 
          I MEAN YOU COULD STRUCTURE IT, YOU COULD STRUCTURE IT ANY WAY YOU WANT LEGALLY IF YOU WANTED TO, EVERYONE COULD BE A MEMBER. 
          HOWEVER YOU GUYS WOULD DECIDE AS FAR AS THE FIRE COMPANIES. 
          BUT I THINK THE THOUGHT, AND MAYBE I'M MISUNDERSTANDING IT, IS TO HAVE A, TO BEGIN A FULL-TIME SERVICE, YOU WOULD WANNA HAVE AN AMBULANCE AVAILABLE THAT WOULD BE SEPARATE AND DISTINCT FROM SAY, LAKESHORE, RIGHT? AND BIGTREE I IMAGINE IS THAT. 
          SO, SO YOU'RE RIGHT, A HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          SO WE ACTUALLY WOULD HAVE TO GET AN AMBULANCE THAT WOULD HAVE TO ANSWER ONE CALL FOR THIS ORGANIZATION TO BE LEGIT THROUGH NEW YORK STATE. 
          IT COULD BE A USED $10,000 AMBULANCE, IT WOULDN'T REALLY MATTER. 
          BUT MOST OF THE FIRE COMPANIES HAVE STATE-OF-THE-ART STUFF AND IT'S PAID FOR ALREADY. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WE'D BE LEASING FROM THEM. 
          THE EQUIPMENT, THE SUPPLIES. 
          NOW OBVIOUSLY WITH THE 70 30 SPLIT MIGHT HAVE MISSED THAT. 
          I'M NOT SURE THE 30% WOULD GO BACK TO A FIRE COMPANY, THE ANNUAL THAT'S BEING USED TO COVER THOSE EXTRA COSTS. 
          SURE, I UNDERSTAND. 
          AND THEN, AND THEN THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THROUGH THE HAMBURG CHIEFS ASSOCIATION, NOT THE PEOPLE THEMSELVES, BUT THE ORGANIZATION CHIEFS ASSOCIATION WOULD GET THE 70% TO PAY THE PEOPLE IN INSURANCES AND THAT STUFF. 
          NOW OBVIOUSLY, HOPEFULLY THAT MONEY WOULD BUILD UP OVER TIME WHERE THIS WOULD MIGHT IN IN THE END, JUST LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BE ITS OWN ENTITY AMONGST THE TOWN. 
          LIKE THERE AT SOME POINT THERE MIGHT NOT BE ANY AMBULANCES IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS. 
          IT'S UP TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          SURE. 
          THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS, UM, RELATIVE TO OTHER COMMUNITIES IN THE STATE, I'M SURE, I MEAN MAYBE, MAYBE NOT. 
          I MEAN IT SEEMS LIKE A REALLY GOOD IDEA THAT YOU, THAT YOU PRESENT IF YOU HAD THE RIGHT PEOPLE AND YOU COULD GET, IF YOU'RE GETTING PAID TO DO IT THROUGH INSURANCE AND SO FORTH, UM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU ALREADY PROVIDE AND YOU'VE CONSOLIDATED IT. 
          THERE COULD BE A BENEFIT FOR ECONOMIES 
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OF, OF SCALE IN THE SENSE THAT INSTEAD OF A DOZEN FIRE DEPARTMENTS RUNNING AROUND YOU, YOU'D HAVE A CONSOLIDATED SERVICE. 
          AND NOT EVERY FIRE DEPARTMENT THEN WOULD HAVE TO BUY THEIR OWN AMBULANCE. 
          I MEAN, AS YOU AS YOU JUST SAID. 
          SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER PRESIDENTS AROUND THE STATE WHERE THIS HAS COME UP, SAY ON LONG ISLAND OR WESTCHESTER OR IN ALBANY OR SOME OTHER AREAS THAT HAVE AN EXAMPLE? YEAH, I, DETON HENDRICKS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. 
          WE'RE VERY UNIQUE OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE DONE IT, LIKE RICHARD PARK CENTER OR DOWN MS SERVICE. 
          A FEW YEARS AGO THEY WERE ALREADY ONE FIRE DISTRICT. 
          SO IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT. 
          WE'RE UNIQUE, WE HAVE NINE DIFFERENT FIRE DEPARTMENTS, TWO VILLAGES AND A FIRE DISTRICT IN LAKEVIEW. 
          SO OURS CONSOLIDATING LIKE THAT ISN'T AS SIMPLE, BUT, UM, I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OF THE APARTMENTS. 
          I MEAN LA IS LANCASTER HAS OR AMBULANCE SERVICE, WHICH IS COMPLETELY SEPARATE FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS. 
          BUT DO THOSE FIRE DEPARTMENTS THEN NOT HAVE AMBULANCES BE LIKE, SAY FOR EXAMPLE AT ORCHARD PARK IN LANCASTER WHERE, UH, ORCHARD PARK HAS THEIR OWN EMS, SO THAT DOES THAT ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR SAY, LAKEVIEW AND LAKE SHORE AND, AND WOODLAWN HAS THEIR OWN AMBULANCES. 
          ORCHARD PARK IS UNIQUE, BUT THEY OPERATE UNDER ORCHARD PARK EMS, BUT THEN EACH FIRE DEPARTMENT STILL HAS THE AMBULANCES. 
          IT STILL RESPONDS WHO THEY MIGHT HAVE TO MANAGE. 
          THEY MIGHT HAVE TO STAFF THERE AT LEAST GET A DRIVER TO MEET A PARAMEDIC ON SCENE. 
          SO THEY HAVE SOME KIND OF DUPLICATION OF SERVICE I GUESS AT SOME POINT. 
          YEAH, IT'S A PARTNERSHIP BY CYLINDER IN A DISTRICT. 
          IT'S HARD TO SAY HOW MANY AMBULANCES YOU NEED AT ANY GIVEN TIME. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THE VOLUNTEERS AND AM I WORK OUT REALLY WELL RIGHT NOW. 
          SURE. 
          BECAUSE YOU COULD PROBABLY NEED AN AUTO ACCIDENT THAT NEEDS FIVE OR SIX AMBULANCES. 
          THIS SYSTEM WOULD NEVER BE SET UP FOR FIVE OR SIX AMBULANCES TO BE ON STAFF AT ANY GIVEN TIME. 
          YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ANY MONEY LEFT. 
          SURE. 
          BUT MAYBE TWO OR THREE DURING PEAK TIMES AND MAYBE ONE OR TWO ON AND OFF PEAK TIMES. 
          BUT IT'S ALWAYS HAVE TO BE SUPPLEMENTED BY SOME TYPE OF VOLUNTEER STAFFING GOING ON. 
          I MEAN, IT SOUNDS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T, I MEAN SOMETIMES A MATTER OF MINUTES OR SECONDS OF LIFE AND DEATH, UH, YOU KNOW, AND NO MORE TEAR IN YOUR MIND IS YOU'RE OUT IN THE ROAD SOMEWHERE AND YOU'RE HURT AND YOU'RE WAITING FOR AN AMBULANCE OR AN EMT TO GET YOU TO A HOSPITAL TO, YOU KNOW, A VASCULAR SURGEON COULD, YOU'RE BLEEDING OUT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. 
          IT COULD BE VARIETY OF THINGS. 
          SO IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GREAT THAT YOU GUYS ARE THINKING ABOUT THIS AND WE HAVE TO STUDY IT TOO. 
          YEAH. 
          AND NOW IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS THAT NEXT SHOWED YOU, LIKE THE THIRD SLIDE OR WHATEVER IT WAS, IT SHOWS A HUGE INCREASE. 
          AND I CAN TELL YOU JUST THAT BIG TREE ALONE VICTORY AND BLAZ OFF ALONE, WE DID 20 OVER 2200 CALLS LAST YEAR. 
          WOW. 
          WE'RE PROJECTING JUST BASED ON THE LAST THREE MONTHS TO DO OVER 2,500 CALLS. 
          'CAUSE A MR CHANGED HOW THEY DO BUSINESS. 
          WE'RE BEING BLOWN OUT TO ALL THE NURSING HOMES AND STUFF NOW. 
          SO IT, THAT IS, IT HAS INCREASED ABOUT 30 CALLS A MONTH, JUST THAT WE'RE BUILDING LIKE CRAZY IN BIG'S DISTRICT. 
          IT'S OKAY. 
          I'M LOOKING AT IT AS A POSITIVE 'CAUSE OF THIS. 
          I WAS LOOKING AT IT AS A NEGATIVE BECAUSE I COULDN'T SUPPORT THAT. 
          I CAN'T SUPPORT WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW. 
          SURE. 
          WITHOUT A MR NOW IT'S A GOOD LOOKING AT THAT AS POSSIBLE REVENUE TO SUPPORT THIS SYSTEM OR A SYSTEM TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THESE CALLS. 
          I THINK GREAT PRESENTATION AND, AND I'VE SEEN THIS A COUPLE TIMES NOW AND I PICK UP SOMETHING EVERY TIME YOU GUYS PRESENT IT. 
          UH, THE ONLY MISSING PIECE I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO MENTION, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR NEWER BOARD MEMBERS IS I BELIEVE IT WAS LAST YEAR, THE TOWN BOARD PUT FORTH A RESOLUTION TO SET ASIDE $250,000 OF OUR AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDING AS SEED MONEY FOR, FOR THIS ORGANIZATION. 
          WE'RE STILL HOPING THAT IT'S STILL THERE AND WE'RE HOPING TO GO TO USE IT NEXT SENSE TO HIRE A FULL-TIME DIRECTOR JUST SO WE DO HAVE THAT ONE PERSON THAT CAN DEDICATE 40 HOURS A WEEK TO THIS. 
          I MEAN, WE'RE ALL DOING IT AS VOLUNTEERS RIGHT NOW. 
          WE ALL WORK FULL-TIME JOBS, SO NONE OF US HAVE 40 HOURS A WEEK TO GET THIS GOING. 
          SO IF WE CAN GET A DIRECTOR HIRED, THAT ONE PERSON THAT CAN BE THAT GO-TO PERSON TO HANDLE THAT CAN BE HERE REPRESENTING IF WE CAN BE THAT PERSON THAT COMMUNICATE WITH YOU GUYS, FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND THE CHIEF ASSOCIATION ALL THE TIME, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO MOVE IN THE NEXT STEP. 
          AND I BELIEVE LAST YEAR I BELIEVE THEY AFFORDED YOU, WE HAD PUT JOB DESCRIPTIONS TOGETHER FOR WHAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR WITH A DIRECTOR, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE'RE HOPING TO MOVE NEXT. 
          AND ALONG WITH GETTING THE CON MOVING FORWARD AND IF WE HAD A DIRECTOR, PART OF HIS RESPONSIBILITY WOULD BE SURE TO GETS GOING THAT WE'RE HOPING TO STILL THERE. 
          SO THAT CAN BE A STEP MOVING FORWARD. 
          THANKS FOR COMING OFF FOR US NEW BOARD MEMBERS. 
          WHAT'S WHAT WE WANNA DO? MAKE SURE YOU GUYS WERE ALL LINE, I MEAN WAS OVER LAST YEAR WHEN PRESENTED THIS AND WANTED TO KEEP EVERYONE ON THE SAME PAGE WITH NO THE, UH, CHIEF ASSOCIATION PRESIDENTS, UH, TAKE LIKE, DO THE YEP. 
          BIDDING AND YOU KNOW, BID IT OUT AND FIND OUT WHO'S THE BEST PERSON FOR THE YEAH, THE COMMITTEE DEVELOPED A JOB DESCRIPTION AND WE PRESENTED IT. 
          WE, WE MET IT THE SUPERVISOR 
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LAST YEAR AND THE COMMITTEE AND I, WE WOULD KIND OF ALL IN AGREEANCE BEFORE WE'RE ON THAT AND WE'D CONTINUE TO MEET BEFORE WE HIRE AND JUST MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AGAIN. 
          UM, ANYONE HAS ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS BEYOND TODAY? YOU DON'T HESITATE TO ASK US EITHER. 
          WE'RE NO, I DON'T. 
          VERY OPEN AND WANNA KEEP EVERYONE INFORMED THAT ON THE SAME PAGE. 
          WHAT WOULD BE THE NEXT STEP FOR THE TOWN BOARD? WHAT WOULD YOU BE LOOKING FOR FROM THE TOWN BOARD AS A RESOLUTION TO HAVE THAT MONEY TO BE UTILIZED FOR HIRING DIRECTOR AND FORWARD THE SYSTEM AND THEN YOU ALSO NEED A RESOLUTION FOR THE CON OR DOES THE WE'RE GONNA WAIT ON THAT TO SEE WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE COUNTY. 
          IF, IF, IF THE COUNTY THING IS A BUST. 
          I DON'T SEE WHY IT WOULD BE, BUT IT'S A LAWYER MIKE HERE RIGHT NOW TO FIGURE THINGS OUT. 
          WE'RE HOPING IS ON IT SOON. 
          JUST IT'S IN IT. 
          LAST WE KNEW IT WAS IN THE HANDS AT THE DRAFT BUILDING, RAFFE BUILDING. 
          DID YOU SAY LAWYER? NIGHTMARE. 
          . 
          . 
          I JUST WALKED OUT OF A COURTROOM. 
          YOU BED WITH THAT EVERY NIGHT. 
          SO IT'S, BUT, BUT IF THAT DOESN'T PAN OUT FOR US, THEN A UNICON, WHICH I DON'T KNOW TO WRITE A HOPE KNOWS ABOUT, BUT A UNICON WOULD BE THE NEXT BEST OPTION FOR THAT TO HAPPEN AND THAT'S BASICALLY PASSING A RESOLUTION TO GO FORWARD. 
          A MUNI CON. 
          THERE'S MORE TO SET UP, BUT TELL YOU THE TRUTH, WE ALREADY HAVE IT SET UP. 
          WE'VE JUST BEEN HANGING ON. 
          HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE AN ANSWER BACK FROM THE COUNTY SHORTLY. 
          WE'LL MAKE SURE WE'RE REACHING OUT TO 'EM WITH THE NEXT WEEK OR SO. 
          ANYTHING MORE NOW? WE GOOD? NO, I THINK THAT'LL DO IT. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME GUYS. 
          AND AGAIN, ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO REACH OUT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          FOR THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA. 
          I'D ASK MR. FERRELL TO PRESENT ON, UH, WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT. 
          UH, WE HAVE ADDED AN ADDITIONAL DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEY TO THAT OFFICE. 
          WE HAVE SEVERAL TIME SENSITIVE PROJECTS THAT ARE, UH, THAT HAVE CARRIED OVER FROM LAST YEAR. 
          UM, MY OFFICE HAS HAD LIMITED, UH, COMMUNICATION WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT. 
          UH, SO I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR MR. FARRELL TO TELL THE BOARD EXACTLY HOW HE'S DIVIDING THE LABOR AND PROJECTS WITHIN HIS DEPARTMENT. 
          EVENING EVERYONE. 
          MY NAME IS SAN FARRELL. 
          I'M LI TOWN ATTORNEY. 
          AND, UH, JUST BRIEFLY BECAUSE WE HAVE A DIAGRAM INTRODUCTION, UM, I'VE SERVED PREVIOUSLY AS TOWN ATTORNEY NUMBER YEARS AGO, SO WAS A DEPUTY FOUND ATTORNEY WITH HAMBURG, ALSO SERVED IN THE CAPACITY TOWN ATTORNEY FOR THE TOWN OF EVANS. 
          I, SO I GREW UP IN THE TOWN OF EVANS JUST ACROSS THE CREEK, THE BORDER BOUNDARY WITH CAMP. 
          I WENT TO A SCHOOL, LAKE SHORE HIGH SCHOOL. 
          I WENT TO, THEN WENT TO SCHOLARSHIP AND WENT TO ENGINEERING SCHOOL AT CASE WESTERN RESERVE UNIVERSITY IN CLEVELAND. 
          AFTER I CAME MY BACHELOR OF SCIENCE AND ENGINEERING, I WENT ON TO UNIVERSITY OF BUFFALO LAW SCHOOL AND THEN BECAME AN ATTORNEY AND PRACTICED IN NOR PARK MY OFFICE A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO TO HAMBURG WHERE I'VE BEEN DECIDED SINCE 1997. 
          AND ADDITIONALLY IN THE DEPARTMENT WE HAVE TWO DEPUTIES ATTORNEYS, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF OTHERS ALSO. 
          WE HAVE THE ATTORNEY FOR THE PLANNING BOARD, UH, JOSEPH GOGAN. 
          AND WE'VE BEEN PRACTICING FOR MANY YEARS. 
          AND WE ALSO HAVE, UH, TIMOTHY SMITH WHO'S HANDLING DUTIES FOR THE NOT PLANNING BOARD, BUT THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. 
          WE ALSO HAVE TWO DEPUTIES. 
          TWO DEPUTIES ARE, UH, JOE RAF, WHO'S NOT HERE WITH US RIGHT NOW, UH, BUT HE IS UH, SECOND DEPUTY. 
          THE FIRST DEPUTY IS BRIAN ATIA. 
          BRIAN'S GONNA JUST INTRODUCE HIMSELF VERY BRIEFLY FOR US. 
          , SAY HELLO. 
          HI. 
          UM, SO I HAVE, UH, LIVED IN THE TOWN HAMBURG FOR 32 YEARS. 
          UM, MY WIFE AND I HAVE RAISED OUR FOUR CHILDREN HERE AND, UH, OUR OFFICES ARE CURRENTLY LOCATED ON MAIN STREET, HAMBURGER MAIN OFFICE. 
          WE HAVE ONE IN S COUNTY TOO. 
          UM, I PREVIOUSLY SERVED AS DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEY FOR A COUPLE OF TERMS. I RECENTLY STEPPED DOWN AFTER 17 YEARS AS THE VILLAGE PROSECUTOR IN THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURG. 
          I'VE ALSO SERVED AS THE TOWN PROSECUTOR FOR THE TOWNS OF COLDEN AND CONCORD. 
          AND FOR THE PAST SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS, I DON'T RECALL EXACTLY HOW LONG I, I'VE SERVED AS THE TOWN ATTORNEY FOR THE TOWN OF CONCORD. 
          UH, IN TERMS OF OTHER CONTACT WITH THE TOWN OF HAMBURG OR VARIOUS ACTIVITIES, I RECENTLY TERM OUT AFTER I BELIEVE THREE TERM AND THE HAMBURG DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. 
          AND I CURRENTLY CHAIR THE BOARD AT ST. 
          FRANCIS HIGH SCHOOL. 
          ATTENDED HIGH SCHOOL AT ST. 
          FRANCIS. 
          UH, I DID MY UNDERGRAD AT ST. 
          BON VENTURE UNIVERSITY AND I WENT TO LAW SCHOOL AT THE UNIVERSITY OF ACTIVE. 
          BUT SHORTLY AFTER GRADUATING LAW SCHOOL, I CAME BACK TO HAMBURG EVER SINCE. 
          I DO SERVE FOR VARIOUS, OR HAVE SERVED WITH VARIOUS OTHER BOARDS LIKE VIE COUNTY THAT HELPS PEOPLE OR INDIVIDUALS WITH FAMILIES WITH DISABILITIES OVER 20 YEARS ON THE BOARD THERE AND CONTINUE TO SERVE IN A COMMITTEE CAPACITY. 
          I CHAIRED THAT BOARD TWO DIFFERENT TIMES. 
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UH, AND ALSO, UH, PREVIOUSLY JUST RECENTLY STEPPED DOWN, UH, FROM THE BOARD OF TRUCARE COLLEGE. 
          UM, SO, UH, DOING MY BEST TO STAY ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY AND LOVE THE TOWN OF HAMBURG AND I'M VERY HAPPY FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THIS BOARD IN WHATEVER CAPACITY THEY NEED FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, MY PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE IS TOWN PROSECUTOR PUTS ME IN A POSITION TO PROVIDE BACK UP TO TIM GALLAGHER WHEN HE CAN'T SERVE IN THE PRIMARY ROLE. 
          SO, UM, THE HOPE WAS THAT THE TEAM WE'VE ASSEMBLED, UH, HAS ENOUGH MUNICIPAL LAW EXPERIENCE AND EXPERIENCE THROUGH OUR VARIOUS, UM, AREAS OF COVERAGE IN PRIVATE PRACTICE AND THEN AS PROSECUTORS TO MAKE SURE WE CAN DO A VERY GOOD, UH, JOB OF TAKING CARE OF THE TOM BOARD THAT NEEDS. 
          THANKS. 
          COULD YOU CHARACTERIZE, COULD YOU TELL US ABOUT YOUR PRIVATE, UH, PRACTICE, PRIVATE PRACTICE SPECIALIZATION? SURE. 
          SO FOR WE, WE TRADITIONALLY KIND OF, UH, GREW ORGANICALLY AS A GENERAL PRACTICE OFFICE. 
          SO FOR 25 PLUS YEARS, I WAS IN AND OUT OF EVERY SIZE COURTROOM IMAGINABLE FROM VILLAGE AND TOWN COURTS TO FEDERAL COURTS, UH, STATE COURT, UH, AND, UM, MOSTLY CIVIL LITIGATION. 
          I DID HANDLE SOME CRIMINAL LAW AT VARIOUS POINTS IN OUR CAREER. 
          DID SOME FAMILY LAW WORK, SOME PERSONAL INJURY WORK, BUT MOST OF OUR WORK WAS, UH, COMMERCIAL LITIGATION BUSINESS AREA. 
          THEN AS WE EVOLVED, UH, MY AREAS OF PRACTICE, THERE'S SEVEN ATTORNEYS IN OUR PRACTICE AND MY MAIN FOCUS IS BUSINESS LAW. 
          UH, SO FORMATION WORK, STARTUPS, ALL THE DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT PHASES, CONTRACT REVIEWS TO MERGERS AND ACQUISITIONS OR PURCHASES AND SALES OF BUSINESS. 
          AND THEN I ALSO DO SOME ADVANCED ESTATE PLANNING. 
          UM, WE DO WORK IN AREAS OF GUARDIANSHIP, UH, AND, UH, DIFFERENT DIFFERENT FORMS OF TRUST WORK WITH ESTATE PLANNING. 
          BUT, UM, UH, WE WORK WITH A LOT OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPERS WITH REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, PURCHASES AND SALES OF COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE. 
          AND THEN THE OFFICE, UH, SOME OF THE AREAS OF PRACTICE FOR OTHER ATTORNEYS IN THE OFFICE IS METRO AND FAMILY LAW, PERSONAL INJURY, CIVIL LITIGATION, COMMERCIAL LITIGATION. 
          SO WE HAVE, UH, DIFFERENT ATTORNEYS WHO HAVE IN DIFFERENT AREAS, BUT THOSE ARE, UH, THE ADVANCED ESTATE PLANNING AND THE BUSINESS LAW AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WORK IS MY MAIN FOCUS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO I'LL OUTLINE SOME OF THE DIVISION RESPONSIBILITIES AND THE DUTIES AND SCOPE OF THINGS WE DO AND THE CONNECTION INTER CONNECTION WITH THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS IN THE TOWN. 
          , UH, AND MIKE THAT, SO FIRST, UH, A MORE OF A BRIEF OVERARCHING REVIEW OF THE ASSIGNMENTS IN GENERAL WOULD BE THAT WE HAVE, AND, AND PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE, I I'VE LAID IT OUT AND WE'VE AGREED THROUGH OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH BOTH DEPUTIES, BRIAN AND JOE, THAT WE WANTED TO HAVE DOUBLE COVERAGE FOR EVERYTHING WE DO BECAUSE OF COURSE WE HAVE BUSY COURT SCHEDULED, WE HAVE BUSY RESPONSIBILITIES NOT TO OUR PRIVATE PRACTICE, BUT ALSO TO THE TOWN AND THE LITIGATIONS. 
          THERE'S MANY MULTIPLE LITIGATIONS IN VARIOUS DIFFERENT AREAS THAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR. 
          IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE WANTED, WE WANNA BE COMMUNICATING WITH OF COURSE RANK AND FILE PLEASE, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY THE DEPARTMENT HEADS WE'RE DEALING WITH. 
          AND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO GET INFORMATION THEM AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. 
          SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE HAVE A SITUATION AND ALSO IF THERE HAPPENED TO BE A CONFLICT AND SOMEONE WOULD HAVE TO RECUSE THEMSELVES FOR SOME CERTAIN PARTICULAR CASE OR SITUATION, WE WOULD HAVE COVERAGE. 
          SOMEONE WHO IS ABREAST OF THOSE AREAS IMMEDIATELY AND ARE WELL VERSED IN A PARTICULAR CASE. 
          GRANTED. 
          SO I MEAN WHEN FIRST OUR RESPONSIBILITY START TO CODE REVIEW COMMITTEE, UM, MRT AND MYSELF, I'VE THOUGHT OF THE TEAM THERE. 
          UH, SECONDLY, WE ALSO COVER HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSIONS. 
          THEY HAVE MEETINGS MONTHLY AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NEW AND NEWLY FORMED, THEY'RE VERY ACTIVE AND VERY EXCITED ABOUT THEIR RENEWAL ROLE, NEW ROLE AND MYSELF. 
          AND ACTUALLY IN THIS CASE IT'S GOING TO BE, UH, JOE GOGAN, WHO IS OUR PLANNING BOARD ATTORNEY BECAUSE OF HIS E AND EXPERIENCE IN THAT AREA, AND ALSO BE PRESENT FITS WELL AND COMPROMISE AS WELL AS THE PLANNING BOARD ATTORNEY. 
          IN ADDITION, WE HAVE THE FOIL ROLL, THE, UH, POUND CLERK, AND I BELIEVE IT'S YOUR SON KY. 
          HE'S THE FOIL OFFICER, BUT THE FOIL APPEALS THEN FLOW THROUGH TO WHEN THE APPEAL IS FILED TO THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WHO WRITES A DECISION ON THAT APPEAL. 
          AND THAT HAS TO BE DONE IN VERY TIMELY FACTION. 
          AND THAT IS GOING TO BE BRIAN AND JOE, JOE GRAF, BRIAN ATIA, UH, THE INSURANCE PROGRAM IS A VERY BIG ISSUE. 
          I'LL GET TO A MORE INVOLVED DISCUSSION THAT IN A FEW MINUTES. 
          BUT THE INSURANCE PROGRAM AND OTHER THINGS THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT ARE GOING TO BE MR. MATTIA, MYSELF. 
          ALSO. 
          THE NEXT, UH, CATEGORY ETHICS BOARD IS MYSELF AND JOE MORAN. 
          UH, THAT'S A, I'LL BRIEFLY TOUCH ON THAT NOW SINCE I'M NOT GONNA SPEND THAT MUCH TIME LATER. 
          ETHICS BOARD IS A ADVISORY COMMITTEE OR BOARD RATHER ADVISORY BOARD. 
          IT ONLY SERVES THE EMPLOYEES AND A POINT ELECTED OFFICIALS OF THE TOWN. 
          AND IT UPON REQUEST FROM ANY OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS, IT, IT THEN RENDERS AN ADVISORY OPINION, OBVIOUSLY, IDEALLY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE PERSPECTIVE AND SOMETHING THAT'LL HELP THEM GUIDE THEIR DECISION MAKING AND PROCESSES. 
          COMPLIANCE WITH LAW, COMPLIANCE WITH, UH, TOWN CODE AND COMPLIANCES AND BEST PRACTICES. 
          UM, SOMETIMES IT MAY BE AFTER CERTAIN EVENTS OCCUR, BUT OBVIOUSLY IT'S TO HELP GUIDE THEM. 
          IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A REVIEW THEIR ACTIVITY AND, AND IMPOSE SOME DISCIPLINARY 
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CONSEQUENCE. 
          ABSOLUTELY NOT. 
          THERE'S NO POWER OF INVESTIGATING, UH, TO INVESTIGATE. 
          THAT IS NOT WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THAT BOARD IS. 
          THE BOARD IS SPECIFICALLY TO TAKE A PARTICULAR QUESTION OR INQUIRY AND THEN RENDER AN ADVISORY WHICH WILL HELP GUIDE THE VOICE. 
          UH, NEXT, THE NEXT AREA WILL BE TOWN PROSECUTOR. 
          BRIAN TOUCHED ON THAT ALREADY. 
          UH, IT IS TIM GALLAGHER. 
          HE'S A VERY SEASONED CRIMINAL ATTORNEY AND ALSO A PROSECUTOR, PREVIOUS PROSECUTOR IN THE PARK. 
          MR. GALLAGHER WILL BACKED UP BY ACTUALLY ALL THREE OF US, BUT PRIMARILY MR. ATIA AND MR. MORANT. 
          THEY'VE BEEN DUCK HE ALREADY BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. 
          UH, MR. FLYNN, UH, PLANNING BOARD OF COURSE AS I MENTIONED BEFORE IS JOE GOGAN, CBA CHRISTOPHER SMITH. 
          ALRIGHT, AS WE MOVE ON, WE ON  SO QUICKLY. 
          THE NEXT AREA WE WANTED TO DISCUSS IS THE GENERAL, A LITTLE BIT MORE EXP RESPONDENCE SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IN THE GENERAL WAY OF THE LA NEAR. 
          UH, WE HANDLE A VERY SIGNIFICANT BREADTH OF MATTERS FOR THIS PROBLEM AND INCLUDING VARIOUS SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF AREAS OF LAW. 
          AND I THINK THAT OUR THEME IS WELL POSITIONED. 
          WE HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WHEN YOU LOOK AT ACHIEVEMENTS ELITE INDIVIDUALLY ACROSS A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT AREAS AND THEY BLEND WELL AND WE HAVE A LOT OF MUNICIPAL EXPERIENCE ALSO. 
          FIRST AREA I WANNA TOUCH ON IS ARTICLE SEVEN. 
          ARTICLE SEVEN ARE TAX CHALLENGES. 
          TAX CHALLENGES ARE WHEN A HOMEOWNER LANDOWNER, UH, RECEIVES THEIR ASSESSMENT. 
           COMES IN MARCH 1ST. 
          OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO USE THE ADMINISTRATIVE REMEDY, WHICH THEY HAVE TO EXHAUST BEFORE THEY FILE A LAWSUIT WITH THE STATE, UH, IN NEW YORK STATE SUPREME COURT. 
          BUT WHAT THEY DO IS THEY FILE WITH THE BOARD OF ASSESSMENT REVIEW. 
          IF THEY'RE NOT, UH, SATISFIED WITH THAT RESULT, THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO FILE A ACTION IN NEW YORK STATE SUPREME COURT TO CHALLENGE THEIR ASSESSMENT. 
          SIGNIFICANT IMPORTANCE OF ACCOUNT TO DEFENDANTS BECAUSE OF COURSE THIS IS PART OF OUR TAX BASE. 
          IF WE, WE HAD MANY TIMES THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT CASES. 
          YOU COULD HAVE A DEVELOPER ORDINARY PROPERTY, UH, WHICH COULD BE A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPED PROPERTY, WHICH WHICH HAS A SIGNIFICANT MULTIMILLION DOLLAR, UH, ASSESSMENT AND GENERATES SIGNIFICANT TAX REVENUE. 
          THEY MANY TIMES WILL APPLY NOT ONLY FOR ONE YEAR. 
          THESE CASES BECAUSE OF THE PROCESS AND THE DELAYS IN THE COURT WILL EXTEND MULTIPLE YEARS. 
          THEY WILL FILE EACH YEAR, THE ASSESSMENT WILL COMES OUT. 
          THEY WILL REQUIRE TO REFILE. 
          THEY WANT TO HAVE THE ASSESSMENT CHALLENGE PUR PURSUED FOR THAT PARTICULAR PERIOD OF TIME. 
          THAT'S THAT YEAR. 
          AND SO WE, UH, ARE MANY TIMES LOOKING AT MULTIPLE YEARS AND POSSIBLE REFUNDS. 
          UH, SO THAT'S REALLY AN ISSUE THAT GOES INTO THE TOWN BUDGETING PLANS ALSO. 
          SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO HANDLE THESE. 
          THERE'S, IT'S A NICHE, NICHE OR NICHE AREA. 
          CERTAINLY WE HAVE A NUMBER OF APPRAISERS WE WORK WITH AND BRIAN MENTIONED HIS EXPERIENCE, MY EXPERIENCE ALSO. 
          HE WORKED WITH THESE PEOPLE ON THE PRIVATE PRACTICE SIDE AND ALSO FOR OUR MUNICIPALITIES. 
          AND CERTAINLY WE'RE USING SOME OF THE BEST APP PRAISE. 
          WE'RE HAVING EFFECTIVE MEETING TOMORROW TO VIEW THE ENTIRE PORTFOLIO OF ARTICLE SEVEN TAX CHALLENGES WITH OUR LEAD DEFENSE COUNSEL AND THE GRABBER FROM GIBSON CAST. 
          AND I'VE WORKED WITH THAT FIRM BEFORE. 
          UH, WE KNOW WE HAVE GOOD PEOPLE DEFENDING US AND WE'RE CERTAINLY LIAISONING. 
          THE OTHER PEOPLE INVOLVED OF COURSE WOULD BE OUR DEPARTMENT AND ALSO COMMERCIAL, YOUR TAX ASSESSOR. 
          UH, THE NEXT AREA WOULD BE, UM, BIDDING. 
          BIDDING AND PROCUREMENT IS A VERY LARGE AREA OF TOUCHES ON ALMOST ALL DEPARTMENTS IS SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO OF COURSE COMPLY WITH GML LEVEL THREE AND THE BIDDING REQUIREMENTS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE, UH, THE PROCUREMENT POLICY WE HAVE TO FOLLOW EVEN IF IT DOESN'T QUALIFY OR THERE'S NON EXEMPTION THAT WE CAN USE TO, UH, AVOID THE GM 1 0 3, FULL BIDDING ADVERTISEMENT BID PROCESS, OPENING THE BID LOWEST, YOU KNOW, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. 
          WE STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND COMPLY WITH OUR PROCUREMENT. 
          WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AGAIN. 
          WE TYPICALLY WOULD DO A REVIEW EVERY YEAR, ASK OF COMMENTS FROM ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND THEN INCORPORATE THOSE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS FOR THE TOM BOARD FOR REVIEW EACH EACH JANUARY. 
          WE'LL BE BACK ON THAT CYCLE NEXT YEAR. 
          OF COURSE, UH, WE'RE A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, BEHIND GETTING STARTED HERE BECAUSE WE JUST CAME IN A FEW WEEKS AGO. 
          BUT CERTAINLY THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT. 
          AND I KNOW THERE'VE BEEN A FEW AMENDMENTS AND THERE'S ALWAYS QUESTIONS THAT COME UP. 
          I FEEL IT. 
          A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS ALREADY REGARDING BIDDING AND, UH, PROCUREMENT ISSUES. 
          THE PROCUREMENT POLICY HAS A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON. 
          I'LL I'LL MENTION ONE FOOTNOTE FIRST. 
          SO, UH, THERE'S ALSO A LAW THAT WAS PUT INTO PLACE A NEW LAW, FAIRLY NEW IN HAMBURG FOR A, TO GIVE THE TOWN BOARD MORE FLEXIBILITY. 
          AND THAT WOULD BE FOR THE, UH, BEST VALUE BIDDING APPROACH. 
          IN ORDER TO UH, USE THAT YOU HAVE TO ARTICULATE AND DESIGNATE THE PROJECTS FOR BEST VALUE BIDDING APPROACH UNDER THE LOCAL LAW THAT WE HAVE IN TOWN HAMBURG. 
          AND THAT IS NICE BECAUSE, UH, YOU CAN SET FORTH A RUBRIC OR FRAMEWORK OF DIFFERENT CHARACTERISTICS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THAT ARE OUTSIDE, IS MERELY THE LOWEST, UM, RESPONSIBLE AND RESPONSIVE BID BY NUMBER AMOUNT. 
          AND SO THAT'S HELPFUL BECAUSE SOMETIMES, EVEN THOUGH WE CERTAINLY WANNA SAVE MONEY IN JUST A NUMBER, THAT'S THE LOWEST POSSIBLE ONE TO GET THE JOB DONE, UH, PROPERLY. 
          YOU ALSO ARE LOOKING FOR SOME OTHER THINGS IN THE SCOPE OF THE WORK, ET CETERA. 
          SO WITH THAT FOOTNOTE, 
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THE, UM, UH, WE WILL BE REVIEWING THE, UH, BIDDING REQUIREMENTS, UH, AND OUR PROCUREMENT POLICY AGAIN, BUT CERTAINLY WE'RE CONSTANTLY, UH, ADVISING PEOPLE ON THAT AND, AND THERE ARE SOME, SOME NUANCES THERE. 
          A LITTLE. 
          HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY'S FAMILIAR WITH THE GENERAL OF THAT. 
          I TAKE TOO MUCH TIME LONGER. 
          CAN, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? SURE. 
          LIKE ON THAT YOU DO SAY RESPONSIBLE BIDDER. 
          SO, UM, JUST SAY SOMEBODY WAS A LITTLE, UH, HIGHER THAN THE LOWEST BIDDER, BUT THEY'VE DONE, UM, WORK FOR THE TOWN FOR MANY YEARS. 
          WE KNOW THEIR WORK, WE KNOW THE CAPABILITY AND JUST SAY MAYBE THE OTHER ONE MAYBE HAS A LAWSUIT OR SOME OTHER THINGS. 
          CAN YOU GO WITH THE RESPONSIBLE BIDDER VERSUS THE LOW BIDDER BEST? NOW WE HAVE BOTH THE SAY LUXURY. 
          WE HAVE THE VERSATILITY OF HAVING A, YOU HAVE TO PASS THE LOCAL LOCK AND IT'S DONE THAT WE HAVE A BEST VALUE BIDDING APPROACH AND WE NEEDS TO ARTICULATE AT THE FRONT END OF THE PROCESS IN ORDER TO USE THAT APPROACH. 
          BUT IF IT HAS NOT BEEN ELECTED BY THE OR OPTED TO USE THAT, THEN YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE LOWEST RESPONSIBLE BIDDER BY LAW. 
          NOW THE ONLY, WELL EXCEPTIONS SO TO SPEAK OR OTHER QUALIFICATIONS ARE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A RESPONSIVE AND RESPONSIBLE BIDDER. 
          RESPONSIVE MEANING THAT RESPONSIVE, THEY HAVE TO HAVE RESPONDED PROPERLY TO ALL THE SCOPE OF WORK AND ALL THE CALCULATIONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT IN THE PACKAGE PROVIDED INSURANCE, ET CETERA. 
          IN ADDITION TO THAT RESPONSIBLE, THE ANSWER IN SHORT TO YOUR QUESTION REALLY IS, IS NO YOU HAVE TO USE THE LOWEST RESPONSIBILITY EXCEPT FOR YOU MENTIONED ONE THING, YOU SAID SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF WHAT IF THE PERSON HAD A LAWSUIT, ET CETERA. 
          WELL IT COULD RISE TO THE LEVEL OF THAT, THAT AND OTHER THINGS MIGHT RENDER THAT POTENTIAL, THAT BIDDER, THAT POTENTIAL CONTRACTOR, UH, NON-RESPONSIBLE. 
          OKAY? SO THERE IS SOME, THE POUND CERTAINLY CAN VET TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE GETTING SOMEONE CAN DO THE JOB AND QUALIFY AND GET INSURANCE, ET CETERA. 
          'CAUSE YOU ALWAYS HAVE A LOT OF BIDDERS THAT DID REAL LOW. 
          THEN BY THE TIME THE PROJECT THEY GOT, YOU KNOW, NEXT THING YOU KNOW YOU'RE UP 10% OVER WHAT THEY BID OR YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALWAYS AN ISSUE. 
          CHANGE ORDERS AFTER THE PROJECT IS AWARDED IS A BIG ISSUE. 
          WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND HOPEFULLY THAT, UH, WORKING WITH CERTAINLY THE ENGINEER AND OTHER PEOPLE IN THE DEPARTMENT, MR. STONE, ET CETERA, TRY AND MAKE SURE. 
          WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ALREADY ABOUT SAYING, LOOK, WE DO NOT WANT CHANGE ORDERS. 
          AND AGAIN, THERE HAS TO BE THEY HAVE, WE KNOW THEY HAVE, BUT WE ALSO WANT PEOPLE OUT THERE CONTRACTORS TO KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA LOOK THROUGH THOSE AND LOOK AT THEM WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE HAVE TO LOOK OUT FOR THE BULK FIST. 
          AND SO WE'RE NOT GONNA JUST LET YOU KNOW IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING. 
          IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, UH, ACHILLES HEEL. 
          I DON'T WANNA TAKE OFF YOUR, YOUR SEL. 
          SO THE NEXT THEORY THAT'S IMPORTANT OF COURSE FOILS THAT I CAN TOUCH ON THAT VERY QUICK. 
          WE ACTUALLY ARE COVER THAT. 
          UH, THE NEXT BIG AREA THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT, I DON'T WANNA MISS OUT ON SOME TIME FOR THIS, IS THE INSURANCE PROGRAM. 
          THE INSURANCE PROGRAM IS, IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. 
          NOT ONLY IS IT CERTAINLY A SHIELD OF THE TOWN, UM, OUR THE PROGRAM, IT'S NOT JUST, OH WELL WE PAY A VERY REPUTABLE INSURANCE CARRIER AND THAT'S IT. 
          BUT HE WANTS MORE TO IT THAN THAT. 
          OBVIOUSLY THE INSURANCE PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE NOW IS WHAT'S CALLED A SELF-INSURED RETENTION PROGRAM. 
          AND SO THE SELF-INSURED RETENTION PROGRAM HAS TO DO WITH THAT, THAT WE, WE HAVE A PREMIUM AND IN ESSENCE WE GET ARE ABLE TO OBTAIN A LOWER PREMIUM BY RAISING THESE SELF-INSURED RETENTION. 
          SOME PEOPLE USE HANDHOLD AND DEDUCTIBLES, THAT'S NOT TECHNICALLY CORRECT, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU WORDS, YOU THINK ABOUT IT. 
          THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT SELF-INSURED RETENTION IS VERY SIGNIFICANT, THAT NUMBER. 
          AND SO IT'S $250,000 WITH A CONTRACT IN SOME AREAS. 
          SOME AREAS IT'S DIFFERENT NUMBERS, BUT WE ARE IN ESSENCE TO BE SHORT ABOUT IT. 
          WE ARE ON THE HOOK FOR THAT MONEY. 
          AND SO WE HAVE TO PAY EXPENSES AND CLAIMS OUT OF THAT MONEY BEFORE WE CAN HAVE THE INSURANCE CARRIER REIMBURSE FOR THOSE THINGS. 
          SO THAT IS WHY WE HAVE TO MANAGE SYSTEM MUCH MORE VIGILANTLY THAN MAYBE ANOTHER SYSTEM WHERE YOU HAVE WHAT'S CALLED A FIRST DOLLAR OFFENSE. 
          MEANING THAT ANY CLAIM FILED FROM DOLLAR ONE, THE EXPENSES AND THE CLAIM OR LOSS IF YOU WILL, THAT HAS TO BE PAID TO A POTENTIAL CLAIMANT OR A CLAIM IS COVERED BY THE INSURANCE. 
          WHAT FREE IS THIS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE EXPENSIVE? AND FRANKLY, I THINK TOM BOARD, UH, BELIEVES UNAFFORDABLE IN MOST THAT THE LAST FEW DECADES. 
          IT'S EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE. 
          THERE HAS BEEN IN AN INDUSTRY-WIDE INCREASE INSURANCE ACROSS MANY AREAS, BUT PARTICULARLY IN MUNICIPALITIES ALSO. 
          AND THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE THAT WE'VE, I'VE SEEN, UM, BY LOOKING AND HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR INSURANCE CONSULTANTS, UH, SINCE EARLY JANUARY WAS APPOINTED, THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE PREMIUM. 
          SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A TOP TO BOTTOM REVIEW THAT WOULD INCLUDE, OF COURSE, LOOKING AT OUR ENTIRE PROGRAM AND THINKING ABOUT MODIFYING IT. 
          THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS WE CAN DO. 
          WE CAN GO TO A SHORT TERM, UH, SOLUTION BY USING ANOTHER CARRIER TO GET US THROUGH. 
          WE CAN LOOK AT ADJUSTING THE SELF-INSURED RETENTION DOWN POSSIBLY 
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OR UP. 
          WE CAN ALSO, UH, TRY AND GO TO A FIRST DOLLAR DEFENSE. 
          UH, THOSE ARE VARIOUS OPTIONS. 
          I DON'T WANNA GET TOO DEEPLY INTO THE CHOICE OF THOSE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF ANALYTICS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, OBVIOUSLY THE COST OF A FIRST DOLLAR DEFENSE IS PROBABLY PROHIBITED. 
          THE PREMIUM IS SO HIGH WILL BE WE, WE'VE BEEN WITH INSURED RETENTIONS, WE KNOW HOW TO HANDLE THEM. 
          THEY'RE NOT EASY, BUT CERTAINLY WE CAN DO THIS. 
          UM, AND IT SAVES, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. 
          OUR PREMIUM IS HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. 
          SO, AND THAT'S EVEN WITH THE SELF-INSURED RETENTION. 
          SO WE'RE NOT, WE'RE TALKING LARGE, A LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY. 
          THAT'S CERTAINLY FAIR. 
          I I HAVE A QUESTION RELATIVE TO THAT. 
          UM, SO WITH MUNICIPAL LAW, WITH THE FIRST DOLLAR DEFENSE, DOES THAT, DOES IT COME WITH THE OBLIGATION OF A DEFENSE AS WELL? LIKE IT WOULD WITH AN AUTO POLICY, UH, IN TERMS OF THE CARRIER BEING RESPONSIBLE TO DEFEND US IN A RELATIVE TO LEGAL REPRESENTATION? YES. 
          YES. 
          AND, AND, AND YES. 
          PROVIDING, SO IT A PAYMENT. 
          SO DO WE, UM, EXHAUST THE $250,000 YEARLY OR HOW DOES THAT WORK OUT? IT'S NOT A YEARLY, IT'S UH, IT'S IT'S PER OCCURRENCE. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT'S PER OKAY. 
          THAT'S WHY WE'RE TALKING VERY SIGNIFICANT THAT WE'D BE DILIGENT ABOUT THIS. 
          SO, SO, AND WHAT ELSE? THE NEXT PIECE, UNLESS YOU'RE DONE. 
          NO, NO, I'M JUST, SO, SO THAT'S, SO I'M, I'M JUST SPITBALLING AND I'M, WE CAN TALK ABOUT OFF OFFLINE, BUT I WAS JUST SPITBALLING IN A SENSE THAT, SO THAT'S PER OCCURRENCE. 
          I MEAN, IS THERE A HYBRID WHERE YOU COULD SAY A MILLION DOLLARS WHERE THE INSURANCE COMPANY THAT WE PUT OUT FOR BID WOULD COVER THE FIR YOU KNOW, WE COVER THE 30 MILLION X RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          I WISH THERE WERE MORE HYBRIDS. 
          THERE'S NOT AS MANY AS WE'D LIKE. 
          THERE'S VERY FEW. 
          I'LL USE THAT TO DOVETAIL IN ONE OTHER THING. 
          OKAY. 
          VERY IMPORTANT. 
          WHICH IS THAT RUN TO YOU, DAN? DEFINITELY. 
          SO IT WOULD BE THAT THE, UM, THE OPTIONS WE HAVE ARE LIMITED. 
          THERE ARE ONLY A, YOU, YOU HAVE A MULTIPLE OF CARRIERS AND THEY'RE ALL ADVERTISING AGAINST EACH OTHER. 
          IF YOU WANNA GET HOME NURSE INSURANCE OR CAR INSURANCE. 
          NO, THIS IS NOT AT THAT AT ALL. 
          THIS IS THE VERY MORE, MUCH MORE SELECTIVE AREA. 
          MOST PROBABLY MANY, IF NOT MOST COMPANIES ARE NOT WILLING TO ENSURE MUNICIPALITIES AND DON'T HAVE MUNICIPAL LINES OF COVERAGE. 
          SO WE HAVE A SMALL NUMBER TO WORK WITH. 
          MOST RECENTLY, FROM MY DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR INSURANCE CONSULTANT IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS, MOST RECENTLY WE HAVE, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME INQUIRES AND THE MOST RECENT EMPLOYERS HAD ABOUT SIX POTENTIAL CANDIDATES. 
          THREE OF THEM AT LEAST, SAID, WE ARE NOT WILLING TO EVEN GIVE YOU A QUOTE. 
          AND, AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NOT JUST THAT WE'RE DOING BAD OR, WELL, THAT'S NOT IT. 
          IT'S, IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT LINE TO WRITE FOR. 
          AND CERTAINLY, UM, AND THERE'S MORE TO IT THAN THAT. 
          THERE'S LEFT THIS WITH THE INCUMBENT CURRENT CARRIER TOKEN, MARINE HOUSTON CASUALTY. 
          ALSO A NIER IS ALWAYS, ALWAYS A POSSIBILITY BECAUSE NIRS SPECIFICALLY IS A CONGLOMERATE THAT HAS POOLED THEIR RESERVES TO, AND DEFENSE MUNICIPALITIES ONLY ACROSS THE STATE OF NEW YORK. 
          AND WE ALSO HAVE ONE OTHER INTERESTED PARTY, BUT THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A HYBRID WE CAN DO, BUT VERY LITTLE, WE HAVE FIRST HOUR DEFENSE. 
          WE HAVE A CHOICE OF DIFFERENT LEVELS OF RETENTION, AND THERE'S NOT TOO MUCH MORE THAN THAT TOWARDS OKAY. 
          OTHER THAN 9 MILLION. 
          SURE. 
          AND IS THAT, IS THAT BECAUSE THAT THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR A CATASTROPHIC CLAIM THAT, THAT PEOPLE, I MEAN, SOMETHING GOES OFF THE RAILS? THERE IS IN GENERAL, BUT MUNICIPALITIES ARE TARGETS AND WE ARE RELIGIOUS SOCIETY IN ADDITION TO THAT. 
          UM, THE CON THE PUBLIC CONCEPT IS TO SOME EXTENT A GREAT EXTENT THAT, UM, WELL THERE'S ALL THE TAXPAYERS, YOU KNOW, 50,000 OR HOWEVER MANY MILLION TAXPAYERS TO BEAR THE LOSS, AND THEY'VE GOT DEEP POCKETS. 
          IT'S, IT'S IN SOME WAYS A MISCONCEPTION. 
          AND IT ALL GOES BACK TO IT'S YOUR TAX DOLLARS. 
          SO, SO, SURE. 
          BUT ULTIMATELY IT IS WHAT IT IS. 
          WE CAN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT WE'RE A LITIGIOUS SOCIETY OR THAT PEOPLE HAVE, WHAT IF, I MEAN, I, I MEAN, I JUST TO THROW IT OUT THERE, BUT SOME MUNICIPALITIES, I THINK THEY'D HAVE, THEY'RE LARGER WHERE THEY'RE SELF-FUNDED WITH SOME EXTREME STOP GAP WHERE THE PREMIUMS ARE RELATIVELY LOW. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, SO, UM, BUT YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE A BIGGER LEGAL DEPARTMENT. 
          LIKE NO, YOU, YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE MORE, A LARGER BUDGET AND AVAILABLE RE THE TOWN THIS SIZE DOES NOT HAVE THAT KIND OF CAPACITY. 
          COUNTIES, THE COUNTY OF , CERTAIN CITIES AND COUNTIES, STATES MAY BE SELF-INSURED. 
          YES, YOU SHOULD FILE FOR WORKERS' COMP EVENT WITH THE CERTIFICATE SAYING WE'RE SELF-INSURED, CERTAIN COMPANIES, BUT WE'RE NOT IN A POSITION REALLY TO DO THAT. 
          JUST THE IDEA. 
          I KNOW THERE'S THOUGHTS OF CONSOLIDATION THAT HAVE BEEN THROWN OUT IN GOVERNMENT, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU TALKED ABOUT THE COUNTY BEING SELF-FUNDED AND SELF-INSURED, I'M SORRY, SELF-INSURED. 
          UM, BUT, BUT IT'S THE SAME THING. 
          IT'S LIKE, IF, IF IT WERE LIKE A HEALTH INSURANCE THAT WOULD BE SELF-FUNDED AND SELF-INSURED, UM, TO DO ANY, UH, CONSOLIDATION WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, PERHAPS THE COUNTY, THE, YOU KNOW, THE VILLAGE, YOU KNOW, TO GET SOME SORT OF ECONOMIES OF SCALE RELATIVE TO THAT. 
          WHERE, WHERE THE TROUBLE IS WE'RE, WE'RE IN ESSENCE, 
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MANY TIMES THERE MIGHT BE ONE, ONE OFF TIME PUT PROBLEM CONFLICTS OF INTEREST BECAUSE YOU ALREADY HAVE, UH, MANY TIMES YOU HAVE AN ACCIDENTS, THE COUNTY OF STATE ROAD COUNTY, SOMETIMES THEY'RE CONFUSED OR GO INTO THE ROAD. 
          AND IF THEY OF COURSE, FILE NOTICE OF CLAIMANT, SUE THE COUNTY WILL STATE, THEN IT'S HAPPENED. 
          AND SOMETIMES OTHER PEOPLE. 
          AND SO WE'RE ALREADY IN A CONFLICTED POSITION 'CAUSE WE HAVE DIFFERENT INTERESTS, WE WANNA POINT FINGER AT THEM POSSIBLY AND VICE VERSA. 
          SO, I MEAN, THAT'S IN A SHORT, THAT'S A SHORT ANSWER. 
          I KNOW THERE'S SURE. 
          IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED AREA, BUT NO, I MEAN, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD BE A CONFLICT IF YOU'RE ALL THE SAME DEFENDANT, BUT THAT'S NOT, IT'S ANOTHER DISCUSSION. 
          I MEAN, RIGHT. 
          IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE, BUT THEY'RE, YEAH. 
          I WAS JUST GONNA ADD ON WITH THE UMBRELLA POLICIES, THAT WOULD KIND OF OVER OVERLAP A LITTLE BIT OF YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          WE HAVE UMBRELLA COVERAGES THAT EXCEED THE STANDARD COVERAGES PER, UH, CURRENTS, ET CETERA, FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF CLAIMS. BUT, UM, YES. 
          AND THAT'S GOOD, BUT WE STILL HAVE TO GO USE OUR SELF-INSURED RETENTION FIRST. 
          FIRST. 
          SO, UM, NEXT CATEGORY IS, UM, WE HAVE, I'VE TALKED ABOUT OUR SONS. 
          THAT'S GOOD PROPERTY. 
          UH, LET'S GO THROUGH. 
          SO, OH, SORRY, ONE POINT WHY CAN'T, LAST POINT ON INSURANCE PROGRAM AND THESE CLAIMS THAT I CAN'T LEAD'S ALSO IMPORTANT. 
          ANOTHER AREA THAT I'VE ASKED HAVING TO WORK WITH ME AND FOCUSING ON IS, IS AND OUR DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, JOE, JOE IS A LITIGATION ATTORNEY. 
          HE HAS LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN LITIGATION. 
          BRIAN ALSO, UH, A LITTLE MORE COMMERCIAL TRANSACTION, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN AN AREA AND, AND WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON THE FRONT END, THE PREVENTIVE MEASURE SIDE OF IT, BECAUSE THAT MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE. 
          AND IT MAKES NOT ONLY THAT, I'VE ASKED THEM FOR, WE HAVE THE FIRST REPORT BACK, WHICH CAME FROM THE PREVIOUS INQUIRIES THAT SAYS, HERE ARE THE 10 OR MORE THAN 10 IF IT IS. 
          BUT HERE'S YOUR REPORT, HERE ARE YOUR PROBLEMS. HERE ARE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE IMPROVED IN THE TOWN. 
          THEY'RE HELPING INFORMATION ITSELF TO US NOW TO IMPLEMENT THAT AND SAY, WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB WITH LITTLE OF OUR SAFETY TREE OR, UH, SOME OF OUR PROPERTIES, HOW WE MANAGE OR OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          AND I'VE ASKED 'EM TO GIVE ME THE TOP FIVE LISTS, 10 LISTS, AND BREAK IT DOWN VERY, YOU KNOW, AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW, SAYING, THESE ARE THE AREAS WE'RE GONNA IMMEDIATELY WORK AT. 
          AND SO THEY SAID, WE ARE NOT IN A GOOD POSITION UNTIL WE GO WORK ON THOSE AREAS. 
          AND OUR, OUR TARGET, OUR GOAL IS TO GET SOME PROGRESS DONE IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR. 
          LITTLE OVER ON THOSE FOUR OR FIVE TOP AREAS THAT ARE MOST IMPORTANT. 
          AND WERE PICKED UP IN OUR REPORTS THAT THIS AFFECTED YOUR PREMIUM. 
          THIS BOOSTED YOUR BRAIN. 
          THE IDEA IS TO GET GRIPING THOSE, HAVE THEM DO SOME MORE, UH, BE ABLE TO SAY TO THE COMPANIES THAT WE'RE PUTTING THE QUOTE, UH, REQUESTING QUOTE FROM, THAT WE'VE MADE PROGRESS IN THESE AREAS. 
          AND THEN HOPEFULLY GET A BETTER QUOTE. 
          WHO SETTLES THE CLAIMS NOW WITHIN $250,000? IS THAT JOHN ATTORNEY? UH, NO. 
          NO. 
          WELL, WE HANDLE THE CLAIMS, WE MANAGE THEM. 
          WE HIRE OUTSIDE COUNSEL MOST, MOST OF THE TIME. 
          WHAT, BUT THE TOWN BOARD WILL ULTIMATELY PASS ON WHETHER THERE'S A SETTLEMENT ALWAYS ON BOARD VOTE. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I HAD RECOMMENDED THE, THE, YOU KNOW, MR. ATTIA AND MR. BARAT IS THEIR VAST LEGAL EXPERIENCE OR THEIR WELL-RESPECTED LEGAL COMMUNITY AND THEY HAVE LITIGATION EXPERIENCE, WHICH IS INVALUABLE. 
          AND ONE OF THE THINGS I TALKED TO MR. MATH ABOUT BEING PERSONAL INJURY LITIGATOR THAT HAS, IS ONE OF THE TOP, I GUESS HE GETS TOP A HUNDRED OR ONE OF THE BEST LAWYERS IN AMERICA DESIGNATIONS. 
          YES. 
          IS HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO LOOK AT OUR CLAIMS WITH YOU, YOUR EXPERIENCE AND MR. ATIA TO SAY, THIS IS THE CASE THAT WE SHOULD SETTLE, OR THIS IS ONE WE SHOULD LITIGATE. 
          THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO SIZE THAT UP QUICKLY TO SAY THIS MONEY. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          ABSOLUTE RIGHTS, SIR. 
          AND WE DO HAVE SOME CONTROL OVER 58. 
          HE'S ALREADY, WE'VE ALL DONE THEM. 
          HE'S CAPABLE OF DOING THEM. 
          HE'S AN EXPERT. 
          HE DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE HE'S CONCENTRATING IN AREA. 
          YES. 
          HIS HIS KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE IS VALUABLE AS ALL OF IT TOGETHER AS A TEAM. 
          THE KEY IS THREE HEADS ARE BETTER THAN TWO. 
          TWO EVERY ONE. 
          AND WE, WE HAVE A GREAT TEAM, I THINK BECAUSE WE HAVE A REAL GOOD EXPERIENCE. 
          SO YES, HIS, ON THAT PART OF IT, WHICH IS SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE AS SUCH A BIG HIT ON THE BUDGET ARE, ARE YOU GONNA GET A LIST OF THE FIVE OR SIX THINGS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED? WE'RE GOING TO, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          I'VE GOTTEN THE FIRST PRELIMINARY REPORTS ON THAT. 
          AND I, AFTER WE HAVE A CHANCE TO MEET AGAIN WITH THE INSURANCE CONSULTANTS AND DO THEM, I WILL BE IN ESSENCE TALKING TO YOU IMMEDIATELY ABOUT NOT JUST WHAT THEY ARE. 
          I'M TALKING ABOUT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TO ADDRESS THEM. 
          YEAH. 
          COURSE OF ACTION. 
          INSIDE THE COURSE OF ACTION WITH DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. 
          I'M HOPING THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO DO WHAT WE HAVE DONE BEFORE OTHER TIMES. 
          JUST WHAT'S CALLED A, UM, UH, AN INVENTORY, A FULL INVENTORY. 
          AND THAT WOULD LOOK AT RISKS THROUGHOUT ALL YOUR PROPERTIES ACROSS THE ENTIRE TOWN. 
          IT'S MORE, AND I DON'T WANNA DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S SEND AT $20,000 YEARS AGO. 
          SO IT'D BE MORE THAN THAT. 
          UM, I THINK WE CAN KIND OF HAVE A GRASP OF ONE OTHER FOOTNOTE REAL QUICK PROPERTIES. 
          THE TOWN HAS A LOT OF PROPERTIES. 
          WE OWN 30, 40, 50, WHATEVER IT'S PROPERTIES. 
          UH, AT TIMES YOU CAN SAY, HEY, WAIT A MINUTE, THIS PROPERTY IS VACANT. 
          WHY ARE WE INSURING THIS? WE CAN HANDLE IT IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, IT'LL BE A SMALL AND EXPENSIVE CLAIM. 
          THAT'S A TOUGH CALL. 
          BUT WE, WE'VE DONE THAT FROM THEM. 
          SO I'M GONNA MOVE ON IF THAT'S OKAY. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          NEXT TOPIC. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          SO THE, UH, OTHER AREAS, UH, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT. 
          I KNOW I'VE WORKED WITH . 
          WE HAVE SOME ISSUES COMING 
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IN, TRYING TO CONSOLIDATE POLICIES AND GET 'EM AVAILABLE TO THE WEBSITE FROM EMPLOYEES. 
          'CAUSE EMPLOYEES, YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA, WE HAVE THIS TECHNOLOGY AVAILABLE. 
          HOW CAN WE HELP PEOPLE INSIDE AND OUTSIDE DOWN? UH, TURBO IS WANNA MENTION THAT, BUT TURBO IS A TEMPORARY EX EXTREME OF RISK PROTECTION ORDER. 
          IT IS, UM, A VERY NEW THING, BUT IT'S VERY POPULAR AND IT'S HAPPENING. 
          THE POLICE GENERATE FILE A PETITION, UH, FOR A TEMPORARY EXTREM ION ORDER. 
          WHEN A PERSON POSSESS IS THERE IS EVIDENCE THAT A PERSON IS A DANGER TO HIMSELF OR TO OTHERS, AND HE MAY HAVE ACCESS TO WEAPONS, THEY WILL ISSUE AN ORDER TEMPORARY TO START FROM THE COURT AND THEY WILL CO GO. 
          CAN PERSON CAN'T POSSESS WEAPONS, CAN'T APPLY FOR A PERMIT, CANNOT, UH, PURCHASE WEAPONS. 
          AND THEY WILL GO AND TAKE ALL THE WEAPONS OUT OF THE PERSON'S RESIDENCE AND THEY WILL THEN OF COURSE GO TO COURT. 
          UH, THESE CASES CAN LINGER BECAUSE YOU MAY HAVE FEDERAL, STATE CHARGES, ALL THEIR CRIMES AND EVENTS GOING ON. 
          UH, MULTIPLE APPEARANCES ARE NECESSARY. 
          BUT WE'VE GOT, UH, PEOPLE, I HAVE CRIMINAL EXPERIENCE. 
          BRIAN IS CRIMINAL EXPERIENCE, JOE'S LITIGATOR. 
          SO I THINK THIS IS REALLY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN HANDLE READILY. 
          I ALSO HAVE, DON'T HANDLE A NUMBER OF TURS ALREADY, OTHER MUNICIPALITIES. 
          THE NEXT AREA WOULD BE SOLAR FARMS. SOLAR FARMS ARE VERY POPULAR. 
          THEY'RE COMING ON ONLINE EVERYWHERE AND HAVE MANY TOWNS IN MORATORIUMS. WE'RE PASS REALLY THAT PHASE OF MORATORIUMS. PEOPLE ARE UP TO SPEED. 
          THERE ARE SOLAR. 
          WE HAVE SOLAR WATER. 
          THAT'S SO, UM, SO, AND I KNOW WE DO 'CAUSE WE HAVE ABOVE SOLAR ALSO SOLAR, I THINK IT IS. 
          AND THERE'S, SO THERE'S SOME KEY ISSUES THERE. 
          DECOMMISSIONING PLANS, BECAUSE EVERYBODY WANTS TO KNOW THAT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN IT STOPS, WHEN WHAT'S OVER? WE GOT A MESS. 
          HANDS. 
          NO, NO, WE DON'T HAVE A MESS HANDS. 
          WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE PERSON AT BUFFALO SOLAR. 
          HERE'S HIS DECOMMISSIONING PLAN. 
          BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE A BOND OR A LETTER OF CREDIT WORTH A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OR WHATEVER'S THE ENGINEERS GIVE US IN TERMS OF THE PROPER AMOUNTS TO REPLACE AND RESTORE THE AREA TO WHAT IT WAS BEFORE THE ACTUAL, UH, SOLAR FARM WAS ERECTED THERE. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THOSE AREN'T GOING AWAY. 
          THOSE ARE HELPFUL. 
          ANOTHER SOURCE OF ENERGY WHICH HOPEFULLY HELPS US ON THE ENERGY FOREFRONT. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT AND WE'LL CONTINUE. 
          WE'RE WELL EQUIPPED TO DO THAT. 
          I'VE DONE SOLAR FARM, UM, AND WIND FARMS, BUT SOLAR FARMS FOR QUITE A WHILE. 
          I KNOW BRIAN'S WORKED ON WITH HIS MUNICIPALITIES, OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ON OSTENSIBLY. 
          SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE VERY GOOD AT. 
          UH, NEXT IS THE, UH, HISTORIC PRESERVATION. 
          I THINK I TOUCHED ON THAT. 
          SO I'M GONNA LET THAT ONE GO. 
          UH, WE HAVE THE LENS PROGRAM IN TERMS OF PREVENTION I FOR OUR INSURANCE PREMIUMS AND THAT WHOLE INSURANCE PROGRAM. 
          THE LENS PROGRAM IS A SIMPLE PROGRAM AND IT'S VERY EFFECTIVE TOOL. 
          IT'S A LICENSING PROGRAM, SOFTWARE TOOL THROUGH THE STATE DMV DEPART AND MOTOR VEHICLES THAT ALLOWS US TO GET NOTICES IN REAL TIME INSTANTLY OF EVENTS THAT OCCUR RELATED TO OUR EMPLOYEE'S LICENSES. 
          IT'S VERY IMPORTANT, SOMETIMES AS SIMPLE AS, OH, SOMEONE DIDN'T REALIZE THEIR BIRTHDAY'S COMING UP AND THE LICENSE EXPIRED. 
          WE FIRE SOMETHING OUT QUICKLY TO, UH, USUALLY THE DEPARTMENT HEAD, HE PASSES ALONG, OH, GREAT, I GOTTA GET DOWN TO THE END, THE LICENSE. 
          OTHER TIMES WE'RE MONITORING FOR SOME AN ACCIDENT, UH, POINTS IN A LICENSE, A VIOLATION OF ENT. 
          WE HAVE A LOT OF DRIVERS IN THIS TOWN. 
          SOME ARE VOLUNTEERS, SOME ARE, UH, OF COURSE MANY EMPLOYEES. 
          WE HAVE CDL LICENSES. 
          IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. 
          THESE LEAD, WE HAVE MANY, MANY, MANY IN ANY MUNICIPALITY DOES LIKE ANY MUNICIPALITY. 
          WE HAVE MANY VEHICULAR, UH, RELATED CLAIMS, WHETHER IT'S COLLISION DAMAGE AND PERSONAL INJURY. 
          SO THAT IS A KEY POINT THAT ONE I THINK WILL HELP US SCORE BETTER WITH THE INSURANCE COMPANIES. 
          A COUPLE OTHER ITEMS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON ARE THINGS THAT ARE IN OUR REPORTS. 
          A COUPLE OF 'EM ARE ONES THAT WE DON'T EXPECT YOU WOULD FIRST THINK ARE CONNECTED, BUT THEY ARE RELATED TO THE, UH, INSURANCE RATES. 
          UH, NEXT, UH, WE'RE WORKING OF COURSE WITH, UH, ANNISE, SHOUT OUT TO ANNISE. 
          SO WE GOT, UH, LOCAL LAWS INCLUDING A, A NEW ONE, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT. 
          WE WORK ON LOCAL LAWS ALL THE TIME, DRAFTING, REVIEW, ET CETERA. 
          MAKING SURE THEY'RE ENACTED PROPERLY. 
          'CAUSE THAT SOMETIMES GETS YOU IN TROUBLE AND IT'S A PROBLEM. 
          UH, WINERY PREP RULES, THE NEWEST ONE, IT'S GONNA BE TONIGHT OR THE NEXT TIME AROUND WHATEVER. 
          SO I'LL LET YOU HANDLE THAT MEMORY. 
          UH, WE'VE GOT A NEW TWIST TOO. 
          WE'VE GOT, UH, MINORITY WOMEN BUSINESS WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, JENNIFER. 
          WE'VE GOTTA LOOK AT THAT. 
          'CAUSE AGAIN, IT'S ANOTHER WAY WE CAN SPEND LESS MONEY TO THE TAXPAYER DOLLAR TO GET THE SAME OR BETTER BANK FOR OUR BUCK. 
          BETTER TO SAY IT BECAUSE THEY HAVE, UH, IF THEY'RE CERTIFIED, UM, WE CAN PIGGYBACK OFF A STATE CONTRACTOR FROM THE STATE LIST AND WE CAN USE THEM AND THEN GET, UH, AND HAVE THOSE PEOPLE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE THEIR BUSINESS OR COMMERCE AMONG THE MINORITY AND WOMEN BUSINESS ENTERPRISES, BUT ALSO KEEP THE PRICES DOWN FOR THE TOWNS AND VENDORS AND SERVICES. 
          UH, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE POLICE ON MANY THINGS. 
          WE HAD A FEEL AL ALREADY, ALREADY. 
          WE FIELDING, WE'VE GOT LITIGATORS IN IN HERE. 
          OUR DEPARTMENT HAS LITIGATORS. 
          SO WE FEEL THAT SUBPOENAS FOR PERSONAL TESTIMONY APPEAR AND TESTIFY THAT WERE DELIVERED TO OFFICER . 
          WE'VE ALREADY OF COURSE, SUBPOENAED UC, A STATEMENT WHICH IS A STANDARD RUN OF THE MILL THING, MORE RUN OF THE MILL AND NOT A PROBLEM. 
          IT'S, UH, JUST A RECORDS REQUEST TYPE OF SUBPOENA. 
          UM, WANNA TOUCH QUICKLY 
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ON, UH, SAY, TOUCHED ON A LOT OF AREAS AND, AND, AND IN ESSENCE WE'VE BROKEN IT DOWN. 
          I CAN GIVE YOU WHO'S ASSIGNED TO WHICH, BUT I MEAN, I WAS ALREADY GIVEN THE OVERARCHING ONES ASSIGNMENTS ALREADY. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, I THINK WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS WE HAVE BACKUP IN EVERY AREA AND WE ALSO HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCED ALL OVER LITIGATORS ARE GONNA WORK TOGETHER LOOKING AT AS TEAM IN ORDER TO RENDER THE BEST POSSIBLE SERVICE. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE'LL LOOKING TO DO. 
          UM, AND JUST WITH FEW OTHER AREAS, OBVIOUSLY CONTRACTS ARE ANOTHER THING. 
          WE REVIEW TOO MANY CONTRACTS TO COUNT AND CERTAINLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS SOMETHING I MENTIONED, I THINK AT THE PRIOR, UH, MEETING THAT WE HAVE THE PROPER LANGUAGE IN THERE. 
          WE, I'VE DONE THREE IN THE LAST WEEK. 
          IT LOOKS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE A MR CONTRACT. 
          THANK YOU FOR, I THINK IT WAS SAID PAST, BUT SUBJECT TO OUR TWEAKING, UH, WE'VE ACTUALLY GOT ALL THE CHANGES BACK. 
          UM, BUT ONE FROM, WELL, ACTUALLY THEY AGREED TO ALL THE CHANGES THAT IS THE BMR CONTRACTOR WE'RE REFERRING TO. 
          WE HAVE ALL THE CHANGES BACK FROM THE REGIONAL DIRECTOR OF A MR WHO SAID YES, WE AGREED 'EM, WE DIDN'T, WE INCORPORATE 'EM ALREADY. 
          I REVIEWED JUST BEFORE I CAME OVER HERE, MY OFFICE. 
          AND SECONDLY, THE LAST PIECE IS THERE'S ONE WRINKLE. 
          THEY HAVE A SLIGHT CHANGE TO IT, A COVERAGE, WHICH SEEMS, UM, MINUSCULE. 
          NOT A PROBLEM, BUT I HAVE TO HAVE IT READ BY AGENCY. 
          SO, SO WORKING ON THOSE. 
          AND WE HAVE, UM, UH, I DIDN'T ALLOW ARTICLE 78 IS ONE THE GAMUT. 
          THEY OUR EXPLAIN THAT FOR APPLICATION PURPOSES. 
          ARTICLE 70 EIGHTS ARE LAWSUITS USUALLY REQUIRED TO BE FILED WITHIN 78, I'M SORRY, FOUR, FOUR MONTHS. 
          UH, OR IN THE CASE OF ZONING, 30 DAYS, VERY SHORT, ONE OF THE SHORTEST TIMEFRAMES FOR A STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS TO ALL ALLOWS. 
          AND THAT'S WHEN THEY CHALLENGED DECISION OF THE TOWN THAT WAS NOT BASED UPON SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. 
          IT WAS BEYOND THE, THE AUTHORITY OF THE TOWN WHERE IT'S REQUIRING THE TOWN TO DO SOMETHING THAT IT SHOULD HAVE DONE. 
          THESE ARE, THESE ARE EXTREMELY FREQUENT. 
          THEY COME IN AND WORK ALL THE TIME. 
          AND THEY ARE, AND BASICALLY A LOT OF THEM ARE PROCESS RELATED. 
          WE DIDN'T DO A TIMELINE. 
          WE FORGOT WE DIDN'T DO SOMETHING TECHNICAL OR PROCEDURE DIDN'T RESPOND TO FILE REQUEST. 
          UH, YEAH, TOO, THAT TOO, RIGHT? THE TIMEFRAMES ARE VERY SHORT FOR SPINE FLOW. 
          SO, SO THOSE ARE HAPPENING ALL THE TIME. 
          I JUST QUICKLY TOUCH ON THESE AREAS. 
           TAXES IS, UM, BASICALLY BRIAN BODILY INJURY. 
          JOE PROPERTY DAMAGES, JOE WORKERS' COMP IS, UH, JOE WORKERS' COMP IS IMPORTANT. 
          IT'S PART OF OUR WHOLE INSURANCE AND DEFENSE PROGRAM. 
          AND IT ALSO IS WHY WE WANNA FOCUS ON PREVENTION AND SAFETY BECAUSE THAT WILL HOPEFULLY AT THE FRONT END, HOPEFULLY TAMPED DOWN. 
          WE HAVE A LOT OF CLAIMS OF EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE BEEN INJURED AND THAT IS A, THAT IS A REALLY BLEEDING THE TOWN A LOT OF MONEY. 
          I THINK, WELL, I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY, UH, LET ME SAY IT A BETTER WAY. 
          ANY MUNICIPALITY HAS TO LOOK AT THOSE ISSUES THAT ANY EMPLOYER DOES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WE ALSO HAVE TO BE VERY DILIGENT ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT, TRYING TO LOOK AND KEEP AN EYE ON WHERE WE ARE IN THE PHONY BETTER. 
          WE CAN ALWAYS TRY TRYING BETTER BY USING SAFETY TRAINING IN-SERVICE TRAINING, PREVENTION TECHNIQUES AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS THEIR EQUIPMENT, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. 
          WHO'S OUR COMP CARRIER? OUR COMPENSATION CARRIER? YEAH. 
          IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S UM, ACTUALLY IT'S A THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR TYPE SYSTEM. 
          OH. 
          SO WE PAY 'EM FUTURE SI, UM, THERE'S A SMALL PAYMENT TO THEM AS THEY, WHICH IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE COMP IS VERY SPECIFIC AND REQUIRES BIWEEKLY PAYMENTS GOING OUT FOR LOST WAGES AND ALL THE MEDICAL EXPENSE REIMBURSEMENTS. 
          AND THAT'S A, ARE THE POLICE COVERED UNDER THAT OR IS THAT A SEPARATE INSURANCE IN GENERAL? MUNICIPAL LOSS SECTION 2 0 7, DO YOU KNOW? UH, NO, NO, NO. 
          2 0 7 JUST HAS TO DO A FULL PAYMENT. 
          SURE. 
          IF YOU'RE HURT IN THE LINE OF DUTY AS OPPOSED TO COMP SYSTEM IS NOT A FULL SURE. 
          I UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE, BUT I, I'M SAYING IS IT A SEPARATE CARRIER? THERE'S GENERAL MUNICIPAL LAW SECTION 2 0 7 A BC WHERE THERE'S POLICE FIRE CORRECTION, THEY'RE ALL A LITTLE DIFFERENT. 
          BUT WE HAVE, UH, POLICE OFFICERS HERE. 
          DO THEY, DO THEY HAVE A SEPARATE CARRIER? UH, NO, NO, IT'S ALL THE SAME. 
          IT'S ALL ON THE SAME COVERAGE, I BELIEVE. 
          BUT IT'S, IT'S WHAT IT IS IS THAT THERE'S, WE HAVE THE EXTRA LAYER OF HAVING A THIRD PARTY MINISTRY BECAUSE, UM, IT'S JUST MUCH MORE EFFICIENT THERE. 
          THERE'S, THERE'S SPECIALIZED IN THAT AREA AND THERE'S THIS CONSTANT ROLE OF PAPERWORK IN TERMS OF THE ME WATCHING THE MEDICAL TRAJECTORY OF THEIR HEALING AFTER THEIR INJURY AND WHAT THE PAYMENT LEVEL SHOULD BE AND THE PAYMENTS HAVE TO GET OUT THE DOOR. 
          IT'S A LOT OF ADMINISTRATIVE WORK AND PAYROLL TYPE WORK. 
          UM, SO THERE'S, UM, UH, OKAY, SO REAL QUICKLY, SOME OF THESE OTHER CLAIMS WE LOOK AT, JUST SO I'LL TOUCH ON THEM. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY PEOPLE ON LONG TERM LEAVES? WE DO BECAUSE I, I, I MEAN, I, I DON'T WANNA, I DON'T WANNA JUST GENERALLY CATEGORIZE, BUT WE HAVE MANY, A LOT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT AS ANY MUNICIPALITY, BECAUSE I, I KNOW LIKE HAVING PAT, A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES DEAL WITH IT. 
          AND I WOULD, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS DO WHAT YOU WILL FROM A BOARD MEMBER PERSPECTIVE, I WOULD RECOMMEND CAREFUL ADHERENCE TO SECTION 71 AND SECTION 72, WHETHER IT'S 71 AND 72, THEY'RE ON THE JOB OR OFF THE JOB OF CIVIL SERVICE LAW. 
          IF A PERSON'S OUT FOR A YEAR, THEN THEY CAN BE SENT FOR A MEDICAL EXAM. 
          AND I, I KNOW SOME PEOPLE, NOT ALL 
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EMPLOYEES FROM THE TOWN, I'M NOT SPEAKING TOWN EMPLOYEES, BUT I'VE SEEN EMPLOYEES ATTEMPT TO ABUSE THAT SYSTEM IN ONE WAY. 
          TO BE VIGILANT IS TO ENFORCE THAT THOUGH OUR, OUR STATUTORY RIGHTS AS AN EMPLOYER RELATIVE TO THOSE. 
          WELL, I I MEAN, THE WAY I LOOK AT IT'S, IT WOULD BE THE SAME WAY TO LOOK AT MY CLIENTS. 
          NOT ONLY IS IT LOOKING FROM THE TAXPAYER SIDE, WHICH YOU FOCUS ON IN THAT COMMENT, BUT FROM THE OTHER SIDE IS THAT WE WANT OUR EMPLOYEES TO BE HEALTHY, HAPPY. 
          WE WANT THEM TO BE PRODUCTIVE FOR THIS TOWN. 
          SURE. 
          AND MY CLIENT COMES AND I SAY, DO YOU WANNA RECEIVE TWO THIRDS OF YOUR WEEKLY WAGE? DO YOU WANNA RECEIVE YOUR FULL WAGE? NOW YOU HAVE TO WORK FOR THE OTHER WAGE. 
          BUT IT'S A SIMPLE, I MEAN, WE WANNA BE PRODUCTIVE. 
          AND SO I I DON'T THINK PEOPLE DISAGREE WITH THAT PHILOSOPHY. 
          I DON'T THINK SO, BUT I HAVE TO MOVE ON. 
          SORRY. 
          I'M ALMOST DONE. 
          I'M NOT TOO MUCH MORE. 
          UH, SO A COUPLE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS. 
          WE DO RUN THE GAMUT. 
          SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO DO DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN RIGHTS OR EBOC. 
          THOSE ARE VERY, UH, EMPLOYMENT RELATED RIGHTS, RIGHTS TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR POLICIES ARE PROPERLY ENFORCED. 
          UH, ANY EMPLOYEE HAS THE RIGHT TO FILE CLAIM WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN RIGHTS. 
          THEY FEEL THAT THEY'RE BEEN A VIOLATION, A HOSTILE WORK ENVIRONMENT, A UH, UH, HARASSMENT VIA HARASSMENT BY PHONE EMPLOYEES. 
          THIS IS VERY, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON. 
          UH, THERE'S A SYSTEMATIC APPROACH TO IT. 
          IT IS REPORTED TO THE DIVISION AND HUMAN RIGHTS. 
          IT HAS TO BE D DEFENDED PROPERLY. 
          THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, VERY SPECIALIZED, UH, SENSITIVE AREA. 
          UH, THERE'S CONFIDENTIALITY REQUIREMENTS INVOLVED. 
          AND, AND OF COURSE WE ARE, UM, I MEAN I'M VERY WELL VERSED IN IT. 
          I KNOW BRIAN IS. 
          UM, SO IT'S, UM, SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WELL AND, UH, ADEPT TO, TO HANDLING. 
          SO NEXT WE, WE RUN THE GAMUT FROM BANKRUPTCIES TO FIRST AMENDMENT. 
          WE HAVE A PERSON WHO JUST CAME IN TOWN HALL TODAY WITH A VIDEO CAMERA. 
          THAT'S A, IT'S A NEW TREND. 
          IT'S A THING WHERE THEY WILL APPROACH POLICE OFFICERS ON THE MUNICIPAL EMPLOYEES. 
          KATHY'S SMILING KNOWS, AND THEY'LL TRY AND GET YOU TO SAY OR DO SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE, THAT WILL PLAY REALLY WELL ON A VIDEO CLIP THAT'S PUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA. 
          THEY JUST LOOK BAD. 
          AND, AND SOMETIMES IT LEADS TO A LAWSUIT. 
          AND I'VE HAD DEALT WITH THOSE LAWSUITS AND THEY'RE NOT, AND THEY'RE NOT FUN AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, CAN BE, THE TROUBLE IS THEY'RE IN FEDERAL COURT MANY TIMES AND THEY CAN BE VERY EXPENSIVE BECAUSE FEDERAL COURT'S NOT A, A PLACE TO BE IF YOU WANNA SAVE COSTS. 
          SO WE'RE TRY AND ADDRESS THOSE. 
          THEY DON'T COME ON TOO OFTEN, FORTUNATELY. 
          BUT WE'VE GOT A LOT OF THINGS TO LOOK AT. 
          SO, QUICK LIST HERE. 
          UM, I WANNA MENTION JUST A QUICK QUESTION ON THAT. 
          HAVE OUR, I KNOW THERE'S THE SOVEREIGN CITIZENS, SOME OF THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE RADICAL, AND I'VE TALKED TO SOME OF THE POLICE OFFICERS, UH, LIEUTENANT , I USED TO COACH HIS SON AT HOCKEY AND HE TALKED ABOUT, UM, IN THE HAMBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT, THESE PEOPLE TRY TO EXPLOIT THESE SITUATIONS. 
          AND I NEVER ASKED HIM THE QUESTION. 
          MAYBE THE POLICE CHIEF COULD ANSWER OUR, OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND STAFF. 
          DO THEY RECEIVE, YOU KNOW, TRAINING ON THESE ISSUES AS TO HOW TO HANDLE THAT? THOSE PEOPLE? I, I WOULD HAVE TO CHIEF'S NOT SOME, I'LL ASK HIM THAT WAY. 
          SEE HIM? YEAH, THEY DEFER TO HIM, BUT I, I'M ALMOST, I'M REALLY CLOSE TO CERTAIN. 
          UM, SO A COUPLE OF QUICK POINTS ON THE, UH, WE DEAL WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT IN TERMS OF IF THERE'S A DEMOLITION, THERE'S A VERY SPECIFIC PROCESS TO REPORT CO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS TO THE HOMEOWNER. 
          AND SO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCEDURALLY BE VERY CAREFUL THAT IT'S DONE RIGHT. 
          AND WE USUALLY ARE WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENTS AND, UH, OTHER DEPARTMENTS ON THAT. 
          AND ALSO, UM, OF COURSE CODE ENFORCEMENT WHEN THEY, THEY CITE PEOPLE FOR VIOLATIONS THAT TYPICALLY IS COMING INTO COURT WHERE OUR PROSECUTOR'S GONNA PROSECUTE. 
          WE'RE USUALLY SOME LIAISON WITH US AND THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT ON THAT. 
          UH, YOU MENTIONED TURO ALREADY, SO I WANNA JUST TOUCH ON TWO THINGS BRIEFLY AND I PROBABLY END IT BECAUSE I'M PROBABLY BE BEYOND MY . 
          SO THE INSURANCE BACK TO THAT BECAUSE IT'S SO IMPORTANT. 
          THERE'S TWO OTHER POINTS. 
          ONE IS THAT WE'VE ALREADY TOUCHED ON IS THAT WE, AND ONE FOUNDATION, THE PRINCIPLE THAT I'VE ALREADY STATED IS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE IN UH, ALMOST EVERY SITUATION, WE HAVE TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT UNDERLYING ANY PROJECT THAT WE DO WITH AN OUTSIDE OR THIRD PARTY BECAUSE, UH, AND IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT TYPE OF WORK THEY'RE DOING OR SERVICE THEY'RE UNDER IN ORDER TO EFFECTUATE OUR INSURANCE COVERAGE AND THE LOSS TRANSFER FROM THEIR COVERAGE. 
          'CAUSE WE ARE ALWAYS REQUIRING INSURANCE OF THOSE THIRD PARTY CONTRACTORS AND OUTSIDE CONSULTANTS. 
          WE HAVE TO HAVE IT IN AN AGREEMENT. 
          AND WE DO SIMPLE WAYS. 
          WE PUT SOME CLAUSES ON INDEMNIFICATION INSURANCE, ET CETERA, AND THEN ATTACH THE ACTUAL C SAMPLE CERTIFICATE OR OUR REGULAR, WE HAVE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF WORK SERVICES. 
          THAT'S IMPORTANT. 
          THERE'S ALSO A MOVE IT TO PROVE IT PROGRAM, THERE'S A PROVE IT TO MOVE IT PROGRAM, UM, WHICH IS THROUGH THE STATE OF NEW YORK, WHICH KIND OF MAKES US THE POLICE. 
          BUT BASICALLY IT'S A PROGRAM THAT'S VERY HELPFUL IN, UM, IN GENERAL BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES SOMEONE, IF SOMEONE'S NOT INSURED PROPERLY, THEY COME LOOKING FOR TARGETS AND THEY THEN SEIZE UPON US AS MAYBE A TARGET NAMELESS AS DEFENDANT LAWSUIT. 
          UH, WHAT IT MEANS IS THAT ANYBODY COMES TO US TO GET A BUILDING PERMIT, ET CETERA. 
          ALMOST ANY CONTACT WE HAVE, NOT EVERYTHING, BUT ALMOST ANY CONTACT. 
          IF, IF THEY'RE REQUESTING SOME PROCESS SUITABLE FOR PERMITTING PROCESS, THEN THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT THE PROPER INSURANCE. 
          AND THAT'S NOT TO NECESSARILY PROTECT US. 
          THEY MAY BE DOING A PROJECT, PUTTING A POOL INTO SOMEONE'S HOUSE, BUT THEY HAVE TO SHOW US THAT THEY HAVE INSURANCE, INCLUDING DISABILITY, 
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UH, THEY CAN LEAVE AND, UH, GENERAL LIABILITY COVERAGE ALSO. 
          SO, BUT THAT AGAIN STANDS TO PROTECT US BECAUSE IF PEOPLE ARE ADAMANT ABOUT FILING A CLAIM AND THEY SAY, WELL, THIS CONTRACTOR'S BANKRUPT FOR OUR BUSINESS, THEY'RE GONNA LOOK AT THE DOWN NEXT, SAY, WELL, WE, YOU GAVE 'EM THE BUILDING PERMIT. 
          SO THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT. 
          HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, IT'S MAKE YOU ANSWER 'EM WHILE WE'RE GOING ALONG . 
          SO I, UM, I KNOW OVER THE PAST COUPLE YEARS WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO USE OUR TOWN STAFF, OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT STAFF WHENEVER WE CAN, RATHER THAN REFERRING ITEMS OUT TO EXPENSIVE OUTSIDE COUNSEL. 
          ONE OF THOSE AREAS, UM, THAT I THINK WE'VE MADE SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS IS IN THE 50 H PROCEEDINGS. 
          UM, AND I KNOW THAT WASN'T NECESSARILY PAST PRACTICE. 
          UM, SO I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT, THAT THAT'S ON YOUR RADAR. 
          UM, ALSO, I THINK WE DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, UM, WE MET THIS PAST WEEK TO TALK ABOUT, UH, A POTENTIAL FUTURE HOME FOR OUR SENIOR AND COMMUNITY CENTER. 
          UM, WE ARE, WE ARE IN NEED OF, OF SOME LEGAL COUNSEL ON THAT ISSUE. 
          AND WE HAD SOME QUESTIONS AS YOU WEREN'T ABLE TO ANSWER. 
          UM, AND WE WERE HOPEFUL THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO MEET BACK TODAY TO DISCUSS THAT, THAT ISSUE. 
          BUT HEARING FROM MR. ATENA TODAY WITH HIS EXPERTISE IN COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, HE SOUNDS LIKE THE PERFECT PERSON TO BRING INTO THIS CONVERSATION SO WE CAN MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION. 
          UM, WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO BRINGING HIM INTO THAT? WE WOULD, UH, I'LL SAY YES, OF COURSE. 
          WE'LL, WE WE'RE GOING TO CHOOSE ALL OF ATTORNEYS AND ALL OF THEIR SKILLS AND TALENTS AND EXPERIENCE. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          UH, MR. TIA CERTAINLY HAS, UH, EXPERIENCE. 
          I ALSO HAVE EXPERIENCE IN SIGNIFICANT COMMERCIAL TRANSACTIONS AND RESIDENTIAL TRANSACTIONS, REAL ESTATE. 
          IT'S A SIGNIFICANT PART OF MY PRACTICE. 
          I'VE BEEN FOR ALMOST THREE, FIVE YEARS. 
          SO OBVIOUSLY WE WILL USE ALL OF OUR RESOURCES TO ADDRESS THAT. 
          UH, I, I WAS NOT ABLE TO RECEIVE, I RECEIVED THE DATA, UH, I THINK IT WAS FRIDAY EVENING OR SATURDAY, BUT I, UH, YES, WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT AND WE'LL KEEP WORKING ON IT THEN WE HAVE, WE, WE SCHEDULED A MEETING LATER THIS WEEK SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THE NEXT STEP. 
          SO, SO THAT'S, I'VE ALREADY HAD SOME, UH, CONTACT WITH, UH, OTHER ATTORNEYS TO HELP US WHEN WE NEED THAT HELP BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A SIGNIFICANCE SIGNIFICANT, WE MOVE FURTHER TIME. 
          I WILL, I WILL JUST ADD THAT I, I I'M HAPPY TO BE INVOLVED IN ANY CAPACITY WHERE I CAN HELP AND WE, WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED, UM, WITH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS ALONG THAT VERY CORRIDOR WITH DIFFERENT PROJECTS. 
          SO VERY GOOD. 
          MS. MR. HOKA, I WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE HAD REVISITED WITH THE FRONTIER SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE FORMER LOCATION, TO SEE IF THEY WOULD BE OPEN TO TALKING ABOUT THAT LEASE. 
          UH, WE'VE COMMUNICATED, UH, FLIGHT FREQUENTLY WITH FRONTIER, AND I THINK THE FRONTIER CENTRAL SCHOOL DISTRICT AS WELL AS THE NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION HAS MADE IT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR THAT THAT'S NOT A POSSIBILITY. 
          SO THE DOOR'S CLOSED. 
          THE DOOR'S CLOSED, AND IT'S CLOSED PRETTY HARD. 
          WELL, THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THAT QUESTION. 
          SO NEXT ON THE AGENDA I HAVE, AND THIS IS A QUICK ONE BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE GONNA BE HEARING FROM, UH, ANNELISE AND JOSH. 
          UM, WE PROVIDED YOU A DRAFT APPLICATION. 
          NOW LEMME JUST GIVE YOU A BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THIS IS FOR. 
          UH, LAST YEAR WHEN THE TOWN BOARD WAS LOOKING AT OUR, UH, ALLOCATING OUR AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDS, UH, WE HAD VOTED TO SET ASIDE $140,000 FOR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS. 
          THESE ARE, UH, COMMUNITIES WITHIN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG WHO MAY NOT RECEIVE ALL THE SERVICES, UH, THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE. 
          THEY MAY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN ROAD MAINTENANCE COSTS, THEY MAY HAVE, UH, RESPONSIBILITY FOR, FOR LIGHTING. 
          UM, THEY ALSO MAY BE LOOKING AT SHORELINE PROTECTION, UH, OR THEY MAY BE LOOKING AT, UH, BEAUTIFICATION PROJECTS, UH, OR PERHAPS SOME RECREATION AMENITIES. 
          $140,000 IS NOT A LOT OF MONEY WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE TOWN OF HAMBURG. 
          UH, BUT THE BOARD HAD DECIDED SINCE, UH, SOME OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS, UH, AREN'T NECESSARILY ELIGIBLE FOR, UH, THE BENEFIT OF SOME OF THE, UH, OTHER PROJECTS FUNDED BY THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT. 
          UH, WE THOUGHT THAT WE WOULD GIVE THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION THROUGHOUT THE TOWN THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY FOR SOME SMALL POTS OF FUNDING FOR PROJECTS OF THAT NATURE. 
          SO I HAVE, UH, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, A DRAFT APPLICATION. 
          IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT IT, UM, PLEASE GET BACK TO ME WITH, WITH ANY FEEDBACK OR ANY THOUGHTS. 
          UH, OUR INTENT WOULD BE TO ADVERTISE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO ALL THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS THROUGHOUT HAMBURG. 
          UM, AND THE, UH, CRITERIA IS, IS BROAD. 
          WE'RE ASKING THEM TO INCLUDE WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE, UM, KNOWING THAT THERE'S $140,000 AVAILABLE. 
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UM, AND THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST I WOULD SAY SIX TO 10 OR PERHAPS EVEN MORE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE FUNDING. 
          UM, SO THESE ARE CERTAINLY SMALLER PROJECTS, UM, BUT CERTAINLY VERY MUCH APPRECIATED BY A LARGE PORTION OF OUR COMMUNITY. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT BEFORE WE GET TO THE PLANNING UPDATE? DO WE HAVE A RUNNING LIST OF HOW MANY HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS WE HAVE ON HAMBURG? UM, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF, NO. 
          OKAY. 
          PLANNING UPDATE THE FORM LOOKS PRETTY GOOD TO ME. 
          UM, THIS WILL ALSO BE QUICK. 
          I JUST WANTED TO, UM, MENTION, I JUST WANNA GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE RESOLUTION I SUBMITTED FOR HAMBURG BREWING. 
          UM, IT IS TO REFER THE LOCAL LAW AMENDMENT TO THE COUNTY WITH 2 39 REFERRAL. 
          REFER TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR ITS REVIEW AND REPORT, WHICH HAPPENS AT ANY TIME. 
          THE LOCAL LAW IS, UH, IS A FIRM AMENDMENT WE SEE MOST FREQUENTLY WITH REZONINGS. 
          UM, REZONINGS IS A AMENDMENT OF OUR REZONING LAW. 
          SO YOU WILL GET A REZONING IN FRONT OF YOU OR A PROJECT IN FRONT OF YOU, AND YOU REFER IT TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR THEIR REVIEW, AND THEN THEY SEND THAT RECOMMENDATION REPORT BACK. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'D BE AUTHORIZING TODAY, AND YOU'D ALSO AUTHORIZE THE DEPARTMENT TO DO THE SECRET REVIEW. 
          UM, SO THE BIGGEST, WHAT HAPPENED, WHY, UM, THIS CAME UP WAS BACK IN JULY, C  CAME TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR SITE PLAN WAIVER AND THE TOPIC WAS BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE SERVING OF FOOD. 
          UM, TECHNICALLY THEIR ZONE, THEIR LAW DOES NOT ALLOW THEM TO SERVE ROBUST FOOD MEN, A ROBUST FOOD MENU BY NEW YORK STATE LIQUOR LICENSE AUTHORITY. 
          THEY'RE ALLOWED TO SERVE FINGER FOODS AND SMALL THINGS, BUT IF YOU CONSIDER SPAGHETTI AND SOME MORE OF THE, THE LARGER FAIRIES THAT THEY HAVE, FINGER FOODS, IT'S, WELL, YOU PUT ON SANDWICH, RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH. 
          WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE IMAGINATIVE, SO WE WANNA WORK WITH 'EM. 
          AND SO WE BROUGHT THEM IN FRONT OF THE CODE REVIEW COMMITTEE TO SEE IF THIS IS A POSSIBILITY THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN CODE REVIEW COMMITTEE SAID, UM, YOU KNOW, LET'S HEAR FROM OTHER RESTAURANTS IN THE AREA IF WE OPEN UP THE, THE LAW, UM, TO ALLOW YOU TO SERVE FOOD IN THIS AREA. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT, HOW, HOW DID THE OTHER RESIDENTS LIKE BUSINESS OWNERS FEEL ABOUT THAT? THEY CAME BACK, DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. 
          SO WE MADE SOME PRETTY SIMPLE ADDITIONS TO THE, UM, CRAFT BREW FARM BREWERY AND, UM, CRAFT WINERY LOT, JUST THAT IT ALLOWS, UM, THE SERVING OF FOOD, UM, AND THEN SPECIFICALLY A SMALL PRIVATE PARTY EVENT SPACE. 
          AND PAM BREW BROUGHT THIS UP BECAUSE THEY OFTEN HAVE REQUESTS FOR TRAVEL SHOWERS OR RETIREMENT PARTIES, UM, AND THEY JUST WANNA HAVE A PRIVATE SPACE WHERE THEY CAN HOST THOSE. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE THAT CAME IN. 
          UM, AND ALSO THE LAW DOES NOT ALLOW 'EM TO DO, UM, RELATED PRODUCTS, SOFT DRINKS, SYRUPS, OTHER BEVERAGES. 
          SO THAT IS WHAT IS COVERED HERE. 
          WHEN YOU SAY THE LAW, ARE YOU SAYING OUR LAW OR IS IT STATE LAW? OUR LAW. 
          LOCAL LAW. 
          SO I PUT IN FRONT OF YOU, UM, AMENDED, UM, LAWS WITH IT HIGHLIGHTED AND THEN THE ORIGINAL LAWS. 
          SO, UM, ON THE SECOND AND FOURTH OR THE THIRD AND FOURTH PAGE, YOU'LL FIND THE BREWERY AND WINERY LAWS WITH THE, THE, THE CHANGES, UH, HIGHLIGHTED. 
          AND SO IT IS, IT'S REALLY JUST A VERY SMALL, UM, ASPECT OF THE SERVING OF FOOD AND WELL, THE SMALL EXCEPTION USES. 
          KEN, DID YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO GET WORK THROUGH THESE OR? YEAH, WE TENDED TO THE  DO YOU RECOMMEND THESE TO US, BUT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND RECOMMEND THAT WE PASS THESE? YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          I, WE SUPPORT IT. 
          PAM DRILLING IS A, IS A GOOD COMMUNITY STAPLE, WELL, NON ALCOHOLIC, DO THEY HAVE TOOLS? UM, SO I WOULD, YEAH, I THINK THAT THEY IS ANY OTHER, AND IT COULD AFFECT OTHER ENTITIES, BUSINESSES, OBVIOUSLY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YEAH, IT, BUT YOU GUYS RECOMMEND IT. 
          YEAH, THAT PARTICULAR LAW ACTUALLY CAME OUTTA CODE REVIEW WHEN I THINK BRIAN I HERE LAST MADE. 
          BUT WHETHER THE POINT IS THAT IT'S FAIRLY NEW, IT'S A NEW TREND, IT'S A NICE NEW AREA FOR COMMERCE AND FOR THE PUBLIC TO HAVE MOTHER DINING AND, YOU KNOW, FRESHMAN KIND OF . 
          SO, UM, AND THE PART THAT'S GOOD IS, IS MISSING PIECE, YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS SOMETHING YOU PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER NEW AND YOU NEVER GET IT PERFECT. 
          AND EVEN IF YOU GET IT, YOU THINK YOU GET IT RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE, TRENDS ARE EVOLVING AND CHANGING, SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT 
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COMPLIMENTS WHAT WE'VE ALREADY PUT IN THE PREVIOUS NEW FAIRLY MOVE ON. 
          AND SO THIS MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ALLOW THEM TO HAVE CERTAIN DINING IONS. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S, YEAH, A NICE PIECE. 
          THIS CONVERSATION BEGAN AT THE, UH, CODE REVIEW COMMITTEE. 
          UH, ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WAS RAISED TO, UH, HAMBURG BREWING WAS HOW DOES THE REST OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY FEEL ABOUT THIS? BECAUSE, UM, THE LAW WAS PUT INTO PLACE FOR A REASON AT SOME POINT. 
          UM, AND I WAS ABLE TO TALK TO SEVERAL LOCAL RESTAURANT OWNERS, UH, WHO ALL WERE IN AGREEMENT THAT THE INDUSTRY HAS CHANGED CONSIDERABLY. 
          AND, UH, THE, UH, ERA OF, YOU KNOW, EXTREME COMPETITION, BUSINESS VERSUS BUSINESS HAS GIVEN WAY TO, YOU KNOW, A MORE SYNERGISTIC EFFECT. 
          AND IF WE HAVE PEOPLE COMING OUT TO OUR COMMUNITY TO VISIT HAMBURG BREWING, THEY'RE ALSO MORE LIKELY TO STOP AT JP FITZGERALD'S OR SOME OF OUR OTHER COMMUNITY BUSINESSES. 
          SO, UH, THE FOLKS THAT I TALKED TO IN THAT INDUSTRY WERE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF ANDREW GRU'S ADVOCACY. 
          IT, IT LOOKS REALLY GOOD TO ME, BUT I JUST FIGURED I'D ASK EXPERTISE IN RECOMMENDED IT. 
          SO I WOULD ONLY ADD THAT HISTORICALLY IT APPEARED THAT WHATEVER LEGAL TEAM OR GROUP WAS WORKING ON, UM, THAT INITIAL CODE, UH, PROVISION BASED ON WHAT NEW YORK STATE WAS PROMOTING FOR CRAFT BREWERIES AND WINERIES, UM, IT WAS PROBABLY A FAIRLY STANDARD TEMPLATE THAT A LOT OF TOWN WERE ADOPTING. 
          BUT AS OUR SUPERVISOR POINTED OUT, UM, THE BUSINESS HAS EVOLVED, THE INDUSTRY HAS EVOLVED, AND, UM, I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT ANNALISE COVERED AND THE SUPERVISOR COVERED WERE THEY WENT OUT TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE DIDN'T SEE ANY ISSUE WITH THE LANGUAGE CHANGES FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE. 
          UH, BUT THE FACT THAT, UH, THEY WENT OUT TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND GOT THEIR INPUT, I THINK WAS REALLY IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE THAT THIS, NOBODY WAS PERCEIVING THIS AS HAVING A NEGATIVE EFFECT. 
          SO LISA, IF THIS GOES THROUGH, UM, DO THEY AUTOMATICALLY CHANGE INTO THE NEW ONE OR DO THEY STAY AND THEN HAVE TO APPLY FOR THE NEW ONE? UM, APPLY FOR THE NEW, LIKE DO THEY, THE NEW LAW, LIKE DO, ARE THEY UNDER THE OLD RULES OR DO THEY AUTOMATICALLY GO INTO THE, 'CAUSE THIS ONE'S GOT SOME NOTICES TOO ABOUT, UM, HAVING THE RESIDENTS SIGN OFF AND THE RESIDENTS ORIGINALLY SIGNED OFF ON THE ORIGINAL LAW, BUT NOW THE LAWS CHANGED. 
          SO DO WE, DO THEY HAVE TO GET RESIDENTS SIGN OFF AGAIN? THAT'D BE SOUNDS FAIR TO SAY THAT THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL USE ALLOWED UNDER THIS PARTICULAR ZONING CLASS. 
          NOT, UM, THIS WOULD BE VERSUS THIS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. 
          THIS WAS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. 
          YEAH, SO THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          I, I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT. 
          WE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK COULD GO EITHER WAY AND WOULD MAYBE BE A, A DECISION WHY WOULD IT BE SPECIAL USE PERMIT? IF YOU'RE, IF, IF YOU'RE CHANGING THE LAW THEN AND ALLOWING IT, OH, THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS AN EXTRA THING THAT YOU APPLY FOR. 
          RIGHT, BUT I'M JUST SAYING IF WE'RE GONNA CHANGE THE LAW, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M SURE YOU'RE GONNA CHANGE IT FOR ALL THE BUSINESSES, NOT JUST THE ONE, RIGHT? OR ARE WE AGREE WITH COUNCIL OR ARE WE, OR ARE WE GONNA NITPICK AND NO, NO. 
          WHAT I WAS ASKING THOUGH, IS THE RESIDENT SIGNED OFF, RIGHT? THE, ONE OF THE STIPULATIONS IS YOU HAD TO SIGN OFF IF YOU'RE A RESIDENT WITHIN A SET NUMBER OF FEET, BUT THEY SIGNED OFF ON THIS LOCK. 
          SO IF WE GO AND CHANGE THIS, DO WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND GET RESIDENT APPROVAL? BECAUSE I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT THESE APPLICANTS TO, TO BE ASKING FOR THIS AND THEN NOT BE ABLE TO GET THE CURRENT, GET THE RESIDENT APPROVAL THEY WANTED, AND NOW WE'VE PUT THEM IN A DIFFICULT POSITION OF THEY CAN'T CONTINUE TO RUN THEIR BUSINESS THE WAY THEY WANT. 
          OKAY. 
          I I, I, MAYBE I'M MISTAKEN. 
          I THOUGHT HER RESPONSE WAS THAT IT WAS BECAUSE IT WAS THIS, AND NOW WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT THIS, SO WE MAY NOT, IF IT'S A LOCAL, IF WE CHANGE THE LAW, YOU DON'T NEED TO. 
          UM, I MISS, LIKE IF YOU EXPAND THE USES THAT ARE AFFORDED ONCE THEY'RE APPROVED, I MEAN THEY HAVE TO START WITHIN THE ZONING CLASS. 
          OKAY. 
          THEN TO GET TO ADDITIONAL USES, SOME REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, WHICH IS FURTHER VETTING BY THE TOWN, AND THEN ONCE IT'S APPROVED, THEY COULD USE THOSE ADDITIONAL USES. 
          SO IF YOU ADD IT TO THE USES, IT WOULD MEAN GOING FORWARD YOU COULD DO THAT. 
          SO THAT'S TYPICALLY THE RUBRIC. 
          NOW I'M NOT SO SURE, UM, EXACTLY IN THAT PERMISSION, HOW THAT PERMISSION PART WORKS. 
          I DON'T THINK SO. 
          I MEAN, IF YOU CHANGE THE LAW, THEN WHY DO YOU NEED PERMISSION? I MEAN, I WOULD PREFER A BROAD, MORE BROADLY DRAFTED STATUTE SO THAT BUSINESSES AREN'T HANDICAPPED THAT TO COME IN EVERY TIME AND ASK FOR, FOR PERMISSION. 
          LIKE WE'RE NOT THE KING, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I'M NOT, MAYBE ANALYST CAN DRESS FOR PURPOSELY, BUT YOU MIGHT HAVE ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS, FURTHER VETTING FOR THE PROPER EQUIPMENT AND OTHER, YOU'VE GOT NOISE, YOU'VE GOT LOTS OF OTHER CONSIDERATION. 
          I, NO, I'M SORRY. 
          WHAT ABOUT THIS LAW? DOES THIS LAW ALLOW 'EM TO SERVE FOOD WHEN WE PASS IT WITHOUT HAVING TO GO TO US AGAIN? I'M NOT, I, I THINK, I THINK IT'S A VERY VALID POINT AND I THINK FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, NORMALLY THERE IS A, THERE IS A STANDARD PROCESS YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW. 
          SOMETIMES THAT REQUIRES NOTICE TO RESIDENTS WITH A CERTAIN, UH, AND WITHIN A CERTAIN DISTANCE OR RADIUS OF THAT FACILITY. 
          THIS ONE, THERE'S, I 
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THINK THAT'S, YOU HAVE TO, YEAH, THEY'RE SIGNING OFF IF THEY'RE UNDER A CERTAIN, YEAH, I, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM HERE, BUT I THINK IT'S WORTH LOOKING INTO. 
          I THINK IT'S A VERY VALID QUESTION. 
          SO I MEAN, IS THIS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT THEN THAT WE'RE TRADING OR IS THIS A LAW? NO, THIS WOULD BE, THIS WOULD BE A CHANGE TO THE CODE. 
          THIS IS AMENDMENT, IT'S AMENDMENT TO THE LAW. 
          THE CODE TOWN CODE IS A LOCAL LAW AND SO IT IS AN AMENDMENT TO OUR CURRENT LOCAL LAW, OUR TERM CODE TOWN CODE REGARDING ZONING. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SO THAT THE WAY IT'S EMBODIED IN THE LAW NOW IS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUIREMENT. 
          AND THAT AGAIN IS, THERE'S VERY GOOD REASONS TO HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENT BECAUSE OF THE ADDITIONAL USE THAT A LOT COULD EVEN INCLUDE SOMETIMES I GUESS YOU GETTING A LIQUOR AUTHORITY PERMIT OR OTHER THINGS, HEALTH, OTHER THINGS THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT FOR HEALTH EDUCATION, SORRY, HEALTH, SAFETY, WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO, AND ALSO CONSIDERATION TO THE RESIDENTS IN THE NEARBY AREA BECAUSE OF THE NATURE. 
          SO THEN DO YOU RECOMMEND WE CYA AND GO OUT AND GET THE SIGNATURES FROM THE NA I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE'RE NOT VOTING ON THE AMENDMENT. 
          IT'S A REFER, THIS IS A REFERRAL AND WE WILL HAVE SEVERAL OPPORTUNITIES TO AMEND THIS LEGISLATION. 
          FURTHER PUBLIC HEARINGS START OF THE PROCESS. 
          THE PROCESS, I WANNA KNOW TO START OF THE PROCESS. 
          WE WILL SEND IT TO PLANNING. 
          THERE'LL BE REVIEWED, IT'LL EVENTUALLY COME BACK IN THE FORM OF A LOCAL LAW AMENDING THE PREVIOUS ZONING CODE IN THIS AREA AND ESPECIALLY COMMIT REQUIREMENTS. 
          AND THAT WILL HAVE TO BE PASSED AND ADOPTED BY THE TOWN BOARD. 
          THAT LOCAL LAW WILL AMEND THE PREVIOUS CODE FOR THAT. 
          SURE. 
          I THINK WE UNDERSTAND THAT AND JUST SAYING IS IF WE GONNA GO FOR IT, LET'S EXPEDITE IT AND GET IT DONE. 
          IT'S JUST MY OPINION. 
          EVERYTHING MARCH ALL TIME. 
          AND WE WILL ALSO PUT THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS LEVEL, UM, AND WE CAN ALSO DISCUSS, YEAH, CAN YOU GET BACK TO ME WITH THAT ANSWER WHEN YOU WERE WORKING ON IT? I'M SURE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WHEN YOU TAKE IT TO PLAYING BOARD, THEY'LL ASK AS WELL. 
          YEAH, ONCE WE GOT IT, WE'LL INCORPORATE THAT IF WE NEED TO. 
          OKAY, PERFECT. 
          NOW THAT BACK TO IT, IT'S, IT'S EXACTLY HOW MANY PEOPLE NEED SIGNED OFF OR IT'S MADE AWAY. 
          YEAH, I WOULD JUST HATE TO SEE PAST IT AND THEN HAVE IT NEGATIVELY LIKE PUSH IT THROUGH AND HAVE IT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THESE BUSINESSES. 
          YEP. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, FOR CLARIFICATION, UM, LATER DOWN THE LINE WE'LL HAVE A, A PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS LEVEL, BUT THIS AMENDMENT OR THIS MOTION RIGHT NOW RESOLUTION, I BELIEVE IT'S SECOND TO LAST, UM, IS JUST TO REFER TO PLANNING BOARD, COUNTY AND SEEKER. 
          BUT IT DOES ALSO MEAN THAT YOU'RE ENTERTAINED AGAIN, CAN'T REALLY PUSH IT AWAY AFTER, BUT AWESOME. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, THAT CONCLUDES OUR WORK SESSION AGENDA 7 0 5. 
          SO WE CAN JUMP RIGHT INTO OUR TOM BOARD AGENDA AND I WILL RECOGNIZE, UH, CLERK KINSKI FOR THE ROLL CALL SUPERVISOR. 
          PO PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER BOSKY PRESENT. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER KOJO HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CULLIFORD PRESENT. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CAROLETTE PRESENT. 
          ALRIGHT, AND FOLKS, IF YOU COULD PLEASE STAND AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF A FLAG OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH HE STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY, ROUTINE JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          OKAY, WE HAVE A FULL AGENDA TONIGHT, BUT NO PUBLIC HEARINGS, SO THAT MIGHT GET US OUTTA HERE A LITTLE BIT EARLIER THIS EVENING. 
          JUST FOR FOLKS WHO MAY BE NEW TO US AND FOR THE STUDENTS THAT ARE IN THE CROWD, UH, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS GO THROUGH OUR 32 ITEM AGENDA. 
          WHEN THESE AGENDA ITEMS ARE INTRODUCED, UH, THEY UH, WILL BE MOVED AND THEN SECONDED. 
          AND THEN THERE IS, UH, SOMETIMES DISCUSSION ON THOSE ITEMS. UH, THE DISCUSSION CAN TAKE PLACE AMONG BOARD MEMBERS OR FROM FOLKS THAT ARE HERE AS WELL. 
          UH, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD ON AN AGENDA ITEM, WE ASK THAT YOU LIMIT YOUR REMARKS TO THREE MINUTES. 
          ADDRESS THE BOARD. 
          UH, WE ASK THAT YOU SIGN IN AS WELL. 
          UM, SO WE HAVE RECORDS FOR OUR TOWN CLERK. 
          WE ALSO HAVE, UM, A NEW, UH, SPEAKER HERE WHICH HAS A MICROPHONE, UH, WHICH PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE USE THE MICROPHONE. 
          WE CAN BRING THE MICROPHONE TO YOU IF YOU NEED IT, UH, OR YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME UP TO THE FRONT OF THE ROOM. 
          THE MICROPHONE IS IMPORTANT NOT ONLY FOR THE FOLKS THAT ARE IN THIS ROOM, BUT THE FOLKS WHO MAY BE VIEWING THIS, UM, ON ONLINE SO THAT THEY CAN HEAR THE DISCUSSION NOT ONLY FROM THE TOWN BOARD BUT FROM MEMBERS OF THE OF THE AUDIENCE AS WELL. 
          ONCE WE GET THROUGH THE AGENDA, WE THEN OPEN UP THE MEETING TO PUBLIC EXPRESSION WHERE FOLKS ARE INVITED TO, UH, 
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STAND. 
          RAISE YOUR HAND, COME TO THE FRONT OF THE ROOM. 
          UH, USE THE MICROPHONE AND ADDRESS THE TOWN BOARD AGAIN, WE LIMIT THOSE THAT TO THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER. 
          AFTER WE GO THROUGH PUBLIC EXPRESSION, WE HAVE REPORTS FROM DEPARTMENT HEADS WHERE I WILL CALL UPON UH, OUR DEPARTMENT LEADERS TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE ACTIVITIES WITHIN THEIR DEPARTMENT AND THEN WE FINISH THE MEETING WITH THE REPORTS FROM THE TOWN BOARD OR THE TOWN BOARD. 
          MEMBERS WILL BE ABLE TO SHARE, UH, ANY INTERESTING ITEMS OR IMPORTANT INFORMATION WITH THE PUBLIC. 
          WITH THAT, WE CAN START WITH UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE MINUTES FROM THE TOWN BOARD MEETING HELD ON DECEMBER 11TH, 2023 ARE HEREBY PROOF. 
          SO MOVED. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVORABLY SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED, ABSTENTIONS CARRIED. 
          RESOLVED THAT THE HAMMER TOWN BOARD APPROVES A PAF FOR ROBERT MAHONEY AS ASSISTANT TO COUNCIL MEMBER COZA AT THE RATE OF $17 PER HOUR FUNDS AVAILABLE AND A A 1 0 1 0 1 0. 
          SO MOVED SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? AB EXTENSIONS CARRIED WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS AN ACTIVE SWAT UNIT AND WHEREAS THE 2024 N-Y-T-O-A TAC OPS NORTH TACTICAL TRAINING CONFERENCE IN EXPO 2024 IS BEING HELD MONDAY, APRIL 15TH, 2024 THROUGH FRIDAY, APRIL 19TH, 2024 IN VERONA, NEW YORK AND WHEREAS THE N-Y-T-O-A TAC OPS CONFERENCE MISSION IS TO PROVIDE EXCEPTIONAL ANNUAL TRAINING SESSIONS FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT PROFESSIONALS INCLUDING HIGH QUALITY TRAINING, INTERACTIVE TRADE SHOWS, AND UNPARALLELED NETWORKING OPPORTUNITIES, EQUIPPING LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL WITH THE LATEST KNOWLEDGE, SKILLS AND RESOURCES NECESSARY TO ENSURE THEIR PREPAREDNESS FOR EVERY EVOLVING CHALLENGES IN THE FIELD AND THEREFORE BE RESOLVED. 
          THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES OFFICER MATTHEW SHERRY OFFERED NICHOLAS PALMER, OFFICER ERIC WILSON AND OFFICER KEVIN SULLIVAN TO ATTEND THE 2024 N-Y-T-O-A TACTICAL TRAINING CONFERENCE IN EXPO WITH THE FOLLOWING EXPENSES, LODGING $1,600 MEALS $1,000 REGISTRATION FEE, $1,599 AND 96 CENTS FOR A TOTAL COST OF $4,199 AND 96 CENTS BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZE THE USE OF AN UNMARKED LEASE VEHICLE FOR TRANSPORTATION. 
          MONEY IS AVAILABLE IN B 3 24 92 SEMINARS SLASH DEPARTMENT TRAINING. 
          SO MOVED. 
          ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED EXTENSIONS CARRIED TOWN OF HAMBURG BUILDING DEPARTMENT GIS SERVICES WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG BUILDING DEPARTMENT UTILIZES A GIS SYSTEM TO MAINTAIN RECORDS AND PERMITS AND WHEREAS THIS SYSTEM IS HOSTED AND MAINTAINED BY WENDELL COMPANIES AND WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG BUILDING DEPARTMENT CONTINUES TO UTILIZE THIS GIS SYSTEM AS VITAL PART OF DAY-TO-DAY ACTIVITY, THEREFORE IT BE RESOLVED. 
          THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZED THE TOWN OF HAMRICK SUPERVISOR TO SIGN THE PROPOSAL FROM WENDELL COMPANIES FOR AN ANNUAL GIS WEB MAP APPLICATION HOSTING THE AMOUNT OF $5,900 NOTED TO NO INCREASE FROM 2023 TO BE PAID FROM ACCOUNT A 3 6 2 0 0.042 3.03 THEREFORE IT FURTHER BE RESOLVED. 
          THIS ANNUAL AGREEMENT PROPOSES A GAS SUPPORT AND TRAINING SERVICE TO BE BILLED SEPARATELY BASED ON AS REQUESTED TIME AND EXPENSE NOT TO EXCEED $6,275 NO INCREASE IN 2023 TO BE PAID FROM ACCOUNT A 3 6 2 0 0.42 3.03 SO MOVED. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          A AYE. 
          OPPOSED EXTENSIONS CARRIED PUBLIC AND STAFF WHERE THE TOWN OF HAMBURG UTILIZES GIS SYSTEM FOR THE PUBLIC AND STAFF TO UTILIZE AND WHEREAS THIS SYSTEM IS HOSTED AND MAINTAINED BY WENDELL COMPANY AND WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG CONTINUES TO UTILIZE GIS SYSTEM AS A VITAL PART OF DAY TO DAY ACTIVITY, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THE TOWN AND FORWARD AUTHORIZES THE TOWN OF HAMBURG SUPERVISOR TO SIGN THE PROPOSAL FROM WENDELL COMPANY AND ANNUAL PUBLIC STAFF GIS APPLICATION HOSTING IN THE AMOUNT OF $5,500 NO INCREASE FROM 2023 TO BE PAID TO THE COUNT A 1 4 4 0 0.440 THEREFORE BE RESOLVED THAT THIS ANNUAL AGREEMENT PROPOSED GIS SUPPORT AND TRAINING SERVICE TO BE BILLED SEPARATELY BASED ON THE REQUEST TIME EXPENSE NOT TO EXCEED $10,000 NOR IN INCREASE, NO INCREASE UH, FROM 2023 TO BE PAID TO THE ACCOUNT. 
          A 1 4 4 0 4 THAT 4 4 0. 
          SO MOVED. 
          SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE FAVOR SAYING AYE. 
          AYE. 
          A AYE. 
          OPPOSED IONS CARRIED. 
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          THESE CLERK, UH, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT RESOLVED THE TOWN BOARD APPROVES THE UH, ATTACHED PAF FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF HEIDI LAUCH TO THE PART-TIME UH, SEASONAL POSITION TO CLERK WITHIN THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. 
          THE APPOINTMENT IS SUBJECT TO ALL PRE CONDITIONS AND, UH, EMPLOYMENT INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO PRE-EMPLOYMENT BACKGROUND CHECK THIS APPOINTMENT IS EFFECTIVE FEBRUARY 6TH, 2024 AT THE RATE OF $15 AND 50 CENTS PER HOUR FOR APPROXIMATELY SIX WEEKS. 
          FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE AND 1 4 4 0 1 4 1 0 2 SO MOVED. 
          SECOND FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED. 
          IONS CARRIED. 
          WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG GIVES PRICE FOR BIDS, BIDS FOR THE MILES STRIP ROAD BRIDGE PROJECT AND WHEREAS A PUBLIC BID OPENING WAS HELD ON JANUARY 11TH, 2024 AT 11:00 AM AND MULTIPLE BIDS WERE OPEN AND READ ALOUD, WHEREAS THAT THE LOWEST RESPONSIBLE BIDDER FOR THIS PROJECT IS OKINO CORPORATION HAVING SUBMITTED A BID IN THE AMOUNT OF $993,568 AND 20 CENTS BE RESOLVED. 
          THE ZONE SUPERVISORS AUTHORIZED TO SIGN THE CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT WITH OKINO CORPORATION AND ISSUES OF THE NOTICE OF AWARD AND TO PROCEED. 
          PROCEED. 
          FUNDS AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT NUMBER DA 51 24 63 0 1 MAINTENANCE OF BRIDGES DA 51 24 43 0 1 CONTRACTED PERSONAL SERVICES AND DA 51 24 6 5 3 0 1 CONSULTANT SERVICES. 
          SO MOVED. 
          SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. 
          A. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS CARRIED. 
          WHERE HAS TIME OF HAMBURG RECEIVED GRANTS AND DONATIONS FROM TIME TO TIME AND WHEREAS THE USE OF THESE FUNDS HAS BEEN DETERMINED BY THE GRANTING AGENCY DONOR AND WHEREAS THESE ITEMS ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE 2023 BUDGET NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED THAT THE TO BOARD APPROVES THE RECEIPT OF FILING MONIES AND APPROVES THE BUDGET AMENDMENT TO THE REVENUE AND EXPLANATION EXPENDITURE ACCOUNTS AS FOLLOWS, ACCOUNTS AND AMOUNTS LISTED. 
          SO MOVED. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED. 
          ABSTENTIONS CARRIED. 
          WHEREAS TOM HAMBURG RECEIVES INSURANCE PROCEEDS RENTAL INCOME AND REIMBURSEMENT FOR SERVICES FROM TIME TO TIME AND WHEREAS USE OF THESE FUNDS HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED BY THE RESPECTIVE DEPARTMENT AND WHEREAS THESE ITEMS DO NOT INCLUDED IN THE 2023 BUDGET NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED THAT TOM BOARD APPROVES THE RECEIPT OF THE FOLLOWING MONIES AND APPROVES THE BUDGET AMENDMENT TO THE REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE ACCOUNTS AS FOLLOWS. 
          SO LISTED AND SO MOVED. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? EXEMPTIONS CARRIED. 
          BUDGET, TRANSFER OF DEPARTMENT OF YOUTH RECREATION AND SENIOR SERVICES BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE TOM BOARD APPROVES A TRANSFER OF APPROPRIATION FUNDS WITHIN WITHIN THE 2023 YOUTH RECREATION AND SENIOR SERVICES BUDGET AS FOLLOWS FROM TRANS FOR FROM TRANSPORTATION A 7 3 1 0 0 4 2 4 OR $860 TO SPECIAL EVENTS? A 7 0 2 0 0 4 7 2 800 $60 SO MOVED. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          A AYE. 
          OPPOSED EXTENSIONS CARRIED AUCTION, INTERNATIONAL DEPARTMENT OF YOUTH AND RECREATION SENIOR SERVICES. 
          BE IT RESOLVE THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES THE DEPARTMENT OF YOUTH RECREATION AND SENIOR SERVICES TO RENEW THE ANNUAL AGREEMENT WITH AUCTION INTER INTERNATIONAL FOR DISPOSAL OF, OF EXCESS EQUIPMENT AND SUPPLY. 
          SO MOVED. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS CARRIED. 
          RESULT OF THE HENRY TOWN BOARD IS HEREBY APPROVE THE ADDITION TO THE MEMBERSHIP ROLE OF LAKE SHORE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY AND APPROVE THE MEMBER AS FOLLOWS, VIOLATE FREE DAM SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. 
          A. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ABSTENTIONS A OPPOSED CARRIED. 
          P-A-F-P-A-F. 
          YOUTH RECREATION AND SENIOR SERVICES BE RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVES TERMINATION AND HIRING OF PERSONNEL FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF YOUTH RECREATION AND SENIOR SERVICES. 
          UH, SO MOVE SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED IONS CARRIED WHERE AS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG WILL REQUIRE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICE TO APPROVE CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION AND CONSTRUCTION INSPECTION ON THE MILES STRIP ROAD BRIDGE REPLACEMENT PROJECT AND WHERE AS THE TOWN ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDS THE HIRING OF A NEW YORK LICENSE, PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING AND NY E CERTIFIED CONSTRUCTION INSPECTORS PERFORM THIS TASK. 
          AND WHEREAS DI DONDO ASSOCIATES ENGINEERING AND ARCHITECTS PC HAVE SUBMITTED HOURLY RELATES FOR PART-TIME INSPECTION SERVICES WITH A TOTAL CONTRACT ESTIMATE NOT TO EXCEED $99,320. 
          THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES THE SUPERVISOR TO SIGN THE 2024 PROPOSAL FROM NATO ASSOCIATES 
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ENGINEERING AND ARCHITECTURE PC COST OF THE PROJECT WILL BE CHARGED TO DA 51 24 65 3 0 1 CONSULTANT SERVICES SO MOVED. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ABSTENTIONS CARRIED. 
          BE IT RESOLVED WITH THE TOWN BOARD APPROVED THE OUT OF TOWN TRAVEL FOR HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENT ED HUGHES TO ATTEND THE LOCAL ROADS OUR ESSENTIAL ADVOCACY DAY IN ALBANY, NEW YORK ON TUESDAY, MARCH 5TH, 2024 AND WEDNESDAY, MARCH 6TH, 2024 THE TOTAL COST TO ATTEND THE SEMINAR INCLUDING MEALS REGISTRATION AND HOTEL ACCOMMODATION IS APPROXIMATELY $400 USE OF A TOWN. 
          VEHICLE IS REQUESTED. 
          FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT A 5 0 1 0 0.492. 
          SO MOVED. 
          SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          A OPPOSED, AB CARRIED WHEREAS ON 1 8 24 THE BOARD APPROVED THE REINSTATEMENT OF CJ BOSWELL'S EMPLOYMENT AND WHEREAS IT WAS RESOLVED THAT THE FUNDS WENT WERE TO BE TRANSFERRED FROM ACCOUNT. 
          7 1 4 0 0.22. 
          MOTOR VEHICLE 30,001. 
          UH, COUNT 1 6 4 0 0.202. 
          MOTOR VEHICLE 30,001 6 4 0 0.478 LEASES CLEANER. 
          VAN $43,165 TO A 7 1 4 0 0.100 BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE NECESSARY TRANSFERS ARE BEING MADE TO THE FOLLOWING ACCOUNTS. 
          $57,304 TO A 7 1 4 0 0.100 SALARY, $4,383 AND 76 CENTS TO A 9 0 1 0 0.0830 FICA AND MEDIC, UH, MEDICARE, $6,159 AND 15 CENTS FROM A 9 0 6 0 0.0860. 
          HEALTH $310 AND 39 CENTS FROM A 9 0 6 0 0.0865. 
          DENTAL $232 AND 68 CENTS. 
          A 9 0 6 0 0.0885 VISION AND $5,443 AND 88 CENTS A 9 0 0 8 0. 
          UH, NEW YORK STATE LRS SO MOVED. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          WAS, WAS THIS GENTLEMAN MADE WHOLE, I MEAN, UH, OR IS THERE A GRIEVANCE FILE? UH, THERE WAS NO PAF FILED. 
          THERE WAS NO, UH, PROPER, NOTHING WAS PROPER ABOUT THIS WHOLE ORDEAL WHEN THIS KID WAS LET GO. 
          SO I JUST WANTED, WAS WONDERING, WAS HE LET, WAS HE MADE WHOLE FROM HIS TIME THAT HE WAS TOLD NOT TO SHOW UP TO WORK OR IS THERE FILED ON BEHALF? THERE'S A GRIEVANCE FILED. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS CARRIED. 
          WHEREAS THE BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS DEPARTMENT HAS A NEED FOR A HEAVY DUTY TILT TRAILER AND A 12 FOOT UTILITY TRAILER, THE BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS DEPARTMENT HAS RECEIVED TWO QUOTES FOR THE TRAILERS, BE IT RESOLVED THE TOWN BOARD OF PROOFS, THE PURCHASE OF THE TWO TRAILERS FROM TRAILER SALES OF NEW YORK, INCORPORATED FOR THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF $10,517. 
          FUNDS AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT A 1 64 0 0.201. 
          SO MOVED. 
          SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? CARRIED. 
          BE IT RESOLVED. 
          IF THE TOWN BOARD APPROVE THE OUT TOWN TRAVEL FOR BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS. 
          DIRECTOR NATHANIEL RIVERA TO ATTEND TRAINING FOR CERTIFIED PLAYGROUND SAFETY INSPECTOR IN FAIRPORT, NEW YORK FROM MARCH 4TH, 2024 THROUGH MARCH 6TH, 2024. 
          ESTIMATED COST, INCLUDING REGISTRATION, MEALS AND LODGING IS APPROXIMATELY $1,200. 
          USE OF A TOWN VEHICLE IS REQUESTED. 
          FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN A 7 1 4 0 0.492. 
          SO MOVED. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? PLEASE SEAT IN ANY AYE. 
          A AYE. 
          OPPOSED? PENSIONS CARRIED. 
          BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVE THE OUT OF TOWN TRAVEL FOR BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS. 
          DIRECTOR NATHANIEL RIVERA TO ATTEND THE NEW YORK STATE RECREATION AND PARK SOCIETY CONFERENCE IN GLEN FALLS, NEW YORK FROM APRIL 14TH, 2024 THROUGH APRIL 16TH, 2024. 
          ESTIMATED COST, INCLUDING REGISTRATION, MEALS AND LODGING IS APPROXIMATELY 1020 $5 USE OF A TOWN. 
          VEHICLE IS REQUESTED. 
          FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN A 7 1 4 0 0.492. 
          SO MOVED. 
          SECOND. 
          UH, FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? EXTENSIONS CARRIED. 
          BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVED THE OUT OF TOWN TRAVEL FOR HIGHWAY EMPLOYEES, DAVID RECH AND SETH COARD TO ATTEND THE ARBOR MASTER TRAINING. 
          L ONE ARBOR RIGGING APPLICATIONS FOR CLIMBERS AND AERIAL LIFT USERS FROM APRIL 14TH, 2024 THROUGH APRIL 17TH, 2024. 
          TOTAL COST OF THE SEMINAR, INCLUDING REGISTRATION MEALS AND HOTEL ACCOMMODATIONS IS APPROXIMATELY $3,000 USE OF A TOWN VEHICLES REQUESTED. 
          FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT A 5 0 1 0 0.492. 
          SO MOVED. 
          SECOND ON THE QUESTION. 
          WHERE IS THIS TAKING PLACE? 
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MR. RIVER? HERE. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          RIVERA'S HERE. 
          IT SAYS THE HIGHWAY. 
          OH YES. 
          I THINK IT'S HIGHWAY. 
          SO SORRY. 
          HIGHWAY. 
          YEP. 
          NORTH CAROLINA. 
          NORTH CAROLINA. 
          YES. 
          ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          PROPOSED ABSTENTIONS CARRIED CLERK TUS HIRED TO CLERK OFFICE. 
          OSA RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVE THE HIRING OF MARISSA MOSA CIVIL SERVICE ELIGIBLE LIST, UH, NUMBER 42 DASH 3 0 1 CLERK TYPIST TO FULL-TIME POSITION, PROBATIONAL OF CLERK TYPIST IN THE TOWN CLERK'S OFFICE WITH AN HOURLY WAGE OF $21 AND 89 CENTS, STARTING ON FEBRUARY 12TH, 2024. 
          SUBJECT TO PASSING A BACKGROUND CHECK AND DRUG SCREENING. 
          SO SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? DETENTIONS CARRIED. 
          WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG ACTIVELY PURSUES GRANT AND OTHER FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES AND WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG SEEKS TO ENSURE ACCURACY, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND COMPLIANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS SET FORTH BY FUNDING AGENCIES. 
          AND WHERE THE TOWN OF HAMBURG HAS A CONTRACT WITH EECG CONSULTING FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. 
          THAT INCLUDES GRANT WRITING, GRANTS MANAGEMENT AND PROJECT MANAGEMENT. 
          NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD, AUTHORIZES TOWN BOARD MEMBERS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS TO CONTACT EECG CONSULTING DIRECTLY TO SECURE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES REGARDING GRANT WRITING, GRANT MANAGEMENT AND PROJECT MANAGEMENT. 
          SO MOVED. 
          SECOND UNDER QUESTION. 
          UH, I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THIS RESOLUTION. 
          UH, AS THE TOWN SUPERVISOR, I AM RESPONSIBLE FOR MONITORING, UH, THE CONTRACT OF EECG CONSULTING AS WELL AS SIGNING VOUCHERS, ALLOWING ANY OF OUR TOWN BOARD MEMBERS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS TO CONTACT, UH, EECG CONSULTING DIRECTLY, UM, WOULD MAKE THAT CONTRACT MONITORING AND MY ABILITY TO PROPERLY APPROVE HIS VOUCHERS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT. 
          AND IT COULD ALSO, UH, PUT EECG CONSULTING, UH, IN A SITUATION WHERE THEY MAY BE PURSUING GRANT OPPORTUNITIES OR PROJECT MANAGEMENT THAT IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE STRATEGIES OUTLINED, UH, BY THIS TOWN BOARD, BY OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          AND I BELIEVE THERE SHOULD BE A LEVEL OF OVERSIGHT, UM, RATHER THAN JUST A FREE FOR ALL WHERE FOLKS ARE ABLE TO, TO, UH, DIRECT EECG CONSULTING AND MR. MARK MAKI, UH, TO WORK ON PROJECTS THAT MAY BE, UH, INCONSISTENT WITH OUR STRATEGY, UM, BUT ALSO COUNTERPRODUCTIVE TO THE OTHER INITIATIVES AND PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE. 
          SO I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE A SIMPLE AMENDMENT TO THIS IN THE THEREFORE CLAUSE, UH, AT THE VERY END OF THE SENTENCE TO ADD WITH PRIOR TOWN BOARD APPROVAL. 
          SO IF A DEPARTMENT HEAD OR A TOWN BOARD MEMBER WOULD LIKE TO PURSUE A GRANT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BRING THAT GRANT APPLICATION, UH, AND THEIR IDEAS BEHIND THAT GRANT APPLICATION TO THE TOWN BOARD FOR PRIOR APPROVAL. 
          THE TOWN BOARD WOULD THEN AUTHORIZE THAT TOWN BOARD MEMBER OR THAT DEPARTMENT HAD TO THEN, UH, CONTACT EECG CONSULTING AND MR. MARK MALKI DIRECTLY TO EXPLORE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO AFTER THAT GRANT. 
          UH, BUT WE WANNA BE MINDFUL OF MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE GOING AFTER THE RIGHT GRANT GRANTS, THAT THEY'RE GOOD OPPORTUNITIES AND THAT THESE ARE GRANTS THAT WE CAN, WE CAN MANAGE AND, AND REPORT AND THAT THEY'RE APPROPRIATE FOR TOWN GOVERNMENT. 
          AND I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION AS HE HAS DONE IN THE PAST MANY, MANY TIMES. 
          UH, MY CONCERN WOULD BE THAT WE WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE, THOSE SERVICES AND TO BE ABLE TO AT LEAST DISCUSS SO THAT HE CAN BE, THAT'S PART OF THE PROCUREMENT POLICY OR, UM, PROCUREMENT, UM, ASPECT OF WHAT HE'S DOING THAT HE KEEPS IN MIND WHEN A PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT OR DEPARTMENT HEAD IS, UM, LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT IS, UH, HE'S A CENTER PERSON WHO CAN, HE UNDERSTANDS WHAT, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT AREAS ARE LOOKING FOR AND HE CAN BE MINDFUL OF OPPORTUNITIES WHEN THEY COME ABOUT, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, SOMETHING FOR THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT JUST REOPENED. 
          AND SO HE CONTACTED THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT. 
          THERE'S MANY OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THAT. 
          I ALSO WOULD NOT WANT FOR AN INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT HEAD OR TOWN BOARD MEMBER TO NOT BE ABLE TO CONTACT HIM OR TO CONTACT HIM AND, AND HIS WORK AND HIM NOT TO BE ABLE TO, UM, AT LEAST GIVE INFORMATION FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL. 
          I KNOW HE SUBMITS VERY DETAILED VOUCHERS AND, AND I'M 
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SURE HE'D BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THOSE TO ALL OF THE TOWN BOARD MEMBERS, BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THESE SERVICES. 
          WE'VE BEEN VERY ROBUST IN THESE EFFORTS IN RECENT YEARS, UM, WHERE PRIOR TO THAT WE WERE NOT BRINGING IN THAT MUCH IN TERMS OF GRANT FUNDING. 
          AND IT HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL. 
          AND I THINK THE MECHANISM AS WE HAD IN PLACE BEFORE WORKED VERY, VERY WELL. 
          I THINK WITH THE OPEN COMMUNICATION, THE, UH, RESOLUTION AS STATED WOULD BE SUFFICIENT. 
          I, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THAT LAST SENTENCE. 
          I THINK THAT IT'S VERY REASONABLE TO EXPECT DEPARTMENT HEADS TO COME TO OUR BIWEEKLY MEETINGS, UH, TO SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS ON WHAT GRANTS THAT WE SHOULD GO AFTER. 
          AFTER THAT THEN, YOU KNOW, THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND MR. MALKI ARE WELCOME TO, TO ROBUSTLY DISCUSS THAT. 
          UM, BUT ALSO BY BRINGING IT BEFORE THE TOWN BOARD, IT ALSO GIVES THE PUBLIC AN IDEA OF THE TYPES OF GRANTS THAT WE'RE GOING AFTER AND A WELL-INFORMED PUBLIC, UH, IS IMPORTANT TO THE FUNCTIONING OF A HEALTHY TOWN. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND WE'VE DONE QUITE A BIT OF ADVERTISING THE ROBUST GRANT, UM, PROCUREMENT AND WRITING PRACTICE THAT WE'VE ENGAGED IN THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS. 
          WE TALK ABOUT IT FREQUENTLY AT TOWN BOARD MEETINGS. 
          I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT ALSO. 
          AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE THAT MECHANISM IN PLACE. 
          AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS MY JOB, IT'S, UH, BEING NEW TO THE TOWN THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE BOTH EXECUTIVE AND LEGISLATIVE BRANCHES OF THIS GOVERNMENT. 
          I FEEL MY JOB IS, IF I SEE A GRANT THAT I THINK IS AVAILABLE, I USUALLY BRING IT THE DEPARTMENT HEAD ANYWAYS. 
          THAT'S THEIR JOB. 
          THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE HIRED TO DO. 
          I AGREE A HUNDRED PERCENT WITH THAT STATEMENT. 
          I, YOU KNOW, I SECOND THE MOTION NOT YOURS, BUT THE ORIGINAL ONE, THAT ONE'S ALREADY BEEN SECONDED. 
          I MOVE IT FOR A VOTE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? YOU CAN'T MOVE IT FOR A VOTE. 
          THAT'S MY JOB, MR. BOSKY. 
          SO I DID MAKE, I REQUEST THAT YOU MOVE FOR A VOTE. 
          WELL, I'M MEETING AN AMENDMENT. 
          IS THERE ANY SECOND? SO, YOU KNOW, SECOND. 
          THEN WE WILL NOW GO TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION. 
          MR. MAHONEY, YOUR VOTING MEMBER OF THIS PROCESS. 
          NO, YOU DO NOT VOTE ON THIS RIGHT NOW. 
          NO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGN BY SAYING AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ALL OPPOSED NO AGREE IS ALL THE TOWN BOARD IS HEREBY APPROVE THE 2023 WORKDAY AND REPORTING TO THE NEW YORK STATE COMP CONTROLLER'S OFFICE AS FOLLOWS AS LISTED. 
          SO MOVED SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVORABLY SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? EXTENSIONS CARRIED. 
          WHEREAS THE TOWN OF RE SCHEDULED TO ENTER ANY MUNICIPAL AGREEMENT WITH WENDELL WDPC OR TOWN PLANNING SERVICE FOR THE CALENDAR YEAR 2024 NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED THAT UPON REVIEW OF THE PROPOSED CONTRACT NEGOTIATED BETWEEN WENDELL AND TOM OF HAMBURG, THE TOWN BOARD ACCEPTS THE TERM TO SITE CONTRACT AND AUTHORIZES ITS SUPERVISORY TO EXEC EXECUTE, EXECUTE SAME IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE ADOPTION OF THIS RESOLUTION. 
          SOMO SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS CARRIED A RESOLUTION AND SUPPORT OF THE UNITED STATES POST SERVICE BUFFALO PROCESSING AND DISTRIBU DISTRIBUTION DISTRIBUTION CENTER IN WILLIAM ON WILLIAMS STREET IN BUFFALO. 
          WHEREAS THE UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE, BUFFALO PROCESSING AND DISTRIBUTION CENTER AND P AND DC ON WILLIAMS STREET IS A FILLMORE IN THE, IS IN THE FILLMORE DISTRICT. 
          AND AN INTER INTER INTERAL OH MY GOD. 
          I HAD, SORRY. 
          I HAD A LITTLE VERTIGO THIS MORNING. 
          UM, PART OF THE NATIONAL, UH, POSTAL NETWORK AND PLAYS A CRUCIAL ROLE IN SERVING THE, UH, MAILING AND SHIPPING NEEDS OF WESTERN NEW YORK, UH, COMMUNITY, INCLUDING THE TOWN OF HAMBURG. 
          AND WHEREAS THE US PIECE S HAS INITIATED A MAILING PROCESS, FACILITY REVIEW, MPHR AS PART OF THE 10 YEAR STRATEGIC DE DELIVERING AND FOR AMERICA PLAN OF MODERNIZING THE NATIONAL AGING POSTAL NETWORK, WHICH INCLUDES MORE THAN TWO DOZEN PROCESSING SITES ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, INCLUDING BUFFALO PROCESSING AND DISTRIBUTION CENTER. 
          AND WHEREAS THE NPFR AIMS EVALUATE HOW BUFFALO PROCESSING AND PROCESSING AND DISTRIBUTION CENTER CAN BEST SUPPORT THE POSTAL SERVICE AND OPERATIONAL GOALS TO PROVIDE AND NET AND, UH, PLATFORM FOR LAUNCHING A NEW PRODUCTS AND EVALUATE THE POTENTIAL TRANSFERRING SMALL MAIL PROCESSING OPERATIONS TO ROCHESTER PROCESSING AND DISTRIBUTION CENTER, POTENTIALLY IMPACTING JOBS IN BUFFALO 
          [02:10:01]
AND WESTERN NEW YORK AREA ALONG THE TIMELESS OF MAIL DELIVERY, WESTERN NEW YORK, INCLUDING THE TOWN OF HAMBURG. 
          AND WHEREAS THE USPS HAS EXPRESSED ITS COMMITMENT TO CONSIDERING THE PUBLIC INPUT AND ALLOWING MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY TO SUBMIT COMMENTS ONLINE THROUGH FEBRUARY 15TH, 2024, AND THE EVENT OF FAVORABLE BUSINESS CASE FOR CHANGE FOR CHANGE, CONDUCTION OF PUBLIC MEETINGS AND GATHERING ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK FROM LOCAL COMMUNITIES. 
          AND WHEREAS IT IS ESSENTIAL TO RECOGNIZE THE POSITIVE IMPACT THE BUFFALO PROCESSING AND DISTRIBUTION CENTER HAS IN ITEMS OF ESSENTIAL LOCAL JOBS, SERVICE LEVELS, AND ECONOMY. 
          IT IS ALSO ESSENTIAL TO IDENTIFY THE POTENTIAL IMPACT OF ANY CHANGES, INCLUDING THE RISK OF DELAYED MAIL, DIMINISHED SERVICES AND JOB CUTS. 
          NOW THERE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD EXPRESSES ITS SUPPORT FOR THE UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE, BUFFALO PROCESSING AND DISTRIBUTION CENTER ON WILLIAMS STREET AND THE FILLMORE DISTRICT OF BUFFALO. 
          RECOGNITION ITS IMPORTANCE TO THE LOCAL COMMUNITY AND JOINS THE BUFFALO COMMON COUNCIL AND OTHER REGIONAL STATE AND NATIONAL ELECTED OFFICIALS IN URGING USPS TO CAREFULLY CONSIDER THE POTENTIAL CONSEQUENCES OF ANY PROPOSED CHANGE TO OPERATIONS WITH THE COMMITMENT TO PRESERVING THE ESSENTIAL SERVICE AND JOBS FOR THE BENEFIT OF WESTERN NEW YORK BUSINESSES AND THE RESIDENTS, AND THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED. 
          THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD DIRECTS THE TOWN CLERK TO SEND CERTIFIED COPIES OF THE RESOLUTION TO THE OFFICES OF HONORABLE US CONGRESSMAN BRIAN HIGGINS, HONORABLE NEW YORK STATE SENATOR TIM KENNEDY, HONORABLE COMMON COUNCIL MEMBER CHRISTOPHER P SCANLON AND AMERICAN POSTAL WORKERS UNION LOCAL 3 7 4 BUFFALO, WESTERN NEW YORK DISTRIBUTION CENTER, BUFFALO WESTERN NEW YORK DISTRICT, AND NATIONAL ASSOCIATIONS OF LETTER CARRIERS AND AMERICAN POSTAL WORKERS UNION, A-F-L-C-I-O SOMO. 
          MAY I OFFER A UNANIMOUS SECOND? UNANIMOUS SECOND. 
          AYE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? VINCENT, I JUST WANNA JUST MAKE A COMMENT. 
          I MEAN, THIS, THIS DOES AFFECT EVERYBODY IN THE AREAS. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF BUSINESSES, UH, THESE PEOPLE GO AND EAT UNLESS, AND IT'S KIND OF COUNTERINTUITIVE TO HAVE THE POST OFFICE PICK UP MAIL FROM BUFFALO, BRING IT TO ROCHESTER JUST TO BRING IT BACK TO BUFFALO AND, YOU KNOW, BEING AT STORMS OR STUFF LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW HOW IT IS. 
          THEY CLOSE THE THROUGHWAY, WE'RE NOT GONNA GET OUR MAIL ON TIME AND, AND HAZARDS OF TRUCK DRIVERS LOSING THEIR LIVES AND OTHER THINGS. 
          SO, WHEREAS HAMBURG TOWN CODE CONTAINS SPECIFIES LOCAL LAWS AND ORDINANCES, THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, AND WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG RECEIVED REQUEST IN JEFFREY ZIMMER, REZONED 0.7 ACRES OF LAND SBL NUMBER 1 60 0 8 DASH 2 6 1 1 60 DASH TWO TEN ONE ONE SIXTY EIGHT DASH 2 17 1 68 DASH TWO DASH 14, 1 68 2 DASH 13, AND 1 68 DASH TWO FIVE LOCATED AT 35 20 ABBOTT ROAD, 51 20 STEWART ROAD IN VACANT PARSONS ON SHIP ROAD FROM R TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE DISTRICT, THE C ONE LOCAL RETAIL DISTRICT FOR DEVELOPMENT OF 57 SQUARE, 5,700 SQUARE FOOT COMMERCIAL BUILDING. 
          AND WHEREAS HAMBURG PLANNING BOARD REVIEWED THE REZONING REQUEST AND RECOMMENDED ON SEPTEMBER 20TH, 2023 THAT THIS REZONING REQUEST BE APPROVED. 
          AND WHEREAS PURSUANT TO PART 6 1 7 6 N-Y-C-R-R ARTICLE 80, THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION LAW, THE TOWN OF MB TOWN BOARD ESTABLISHED ITS  SECRET LEAD AGENCY AND CONDUCTED A COORDINATED REVIEW OF PROPOSED REVISIONS OF TOWN CODE CHAPTER TWO 80 ZONING IN THE TOWN ZONING MAP IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUARTER REVIEW ACT, AND IS ISSUED A SECRET NEGATIVE DECLARATION. 
          AND WHEREAS A PUBLIC HEARING WAS HELD REGARDING THESE ZONING CODE AND ZONING MAP REVISIONS ON NOVEMBER 27TH, 2023 AND DUE TO A PUBLICATION ISSUE WAS CONTINUED ON DECEMBER 11TH, 2023 AND COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC AND FROM ERIE COUNTY BASED ON THE 2 39 M REFERRAL. 
          AND WHEREAS HENRY TOWN BOARD HAS DETERMINED THAT THE PROPOSED REZONING WILL NOT RESULT IN ANY SIGNIFICANT NEGATIVE EFFECT ON THE ENVIRONMENT AND HAS ISSUED A NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND THE REZONING IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TOWN'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED WITH THE DOWN OF BR TOWN BOARD, HEREBY REZOS THE PROPERTY IDENTIFIED BELOW FROM R TWO TO C ONE WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. 
          OFFENSE SHALL BE INSTALLED BETWEEN THE C ONE DISTRICT, THE ADJOINING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AND APPROVED OF ON THE SITE PLAN. 
          THE FOLLOWING ISSUES SHALL NOT BE PERMITTED, UN PERMITTED USES WILL CONTAIN WITHIN A DECLARATION OF COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS, DRIVE-THROUGHS, OUTDOOR STORAGE, DRY CLEANING FACILITIES, HOTELS AND MOTELS, STANDALONE DRINKING ESTABLISHMENTS. 
          ALCOHOL SALES SHALL ONLY BE PERMITTED UPON ACQUIRING THE APPROPRIATE VARIANCE FROM THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS AND THE NECESSARY ON-PREMISE LICENSE FROM THE NEW YORK STATE LIQUOR AUTHORITY. 
          BE IT FURTHER RESULT THAT THE ZONING CODE OF TOWN OF HAMBURG BE AS AMENDED AS FOLLOWS TO MEND LOCAL ARMED 10 OF THE YEAR, 1986 
          [02:15:01]
OF THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, CHAPTER TWO 80 ENTITLED ZONING TO PROVIDE FOR A CHANGE IN THE BOUNDARY OF THE ZONING MAP WHEREBY THE ZONING HAS CHANGED FROM R TWO TO C ONE FOR THE COMMERCIALS FOR PROPERTIES IDENTIFIED BY SBL NUMBERS AS LISTED SOMO SECOND I THE QUESTION, I MEAN, UH, WE, WE, EXCUSE ME, HAVE A LOT OF THIS COMING UP, BUT MY QUESTION IS, IT SAYS INSTALL A FENCE. 
          I MEAN, IS THAT A ONE, THE ONE FOOT FENCE? SIX FOOT FOUR FOOT? THERE'S NO, UH, TERMINATION ON HERE ON HOW HIGH THE FENCE HAS TO BE. 
          UH, THAT'S, I BELIEVE IT'S, IT'S SIX FEET, BUT IT, THAT'S ALL UNDER, UNDER SITE PLAN, WHICH FALLS UNDER THE PLANNING BOARD. 
          OKAY, THINK IT ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY MAY SAYING AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS CARRIED. 
          WHERE IS HAMBURG TOWN COKE BEGIN TO SPECIFIES THE LOCAL LAWS AND ORDINANCES OF TOWN OF HAMBURG AND WHERE HAS TOWN OF HAMBURG RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM JOHN RUSSO ON BEHALF OF HAMBURG BREWING COMPANY TO REVIEW AND POTENTIALLY REVISE A CRAFT BREWING CRAFT WINERY LAW TO AMEND CHAPTER TWO 80 DASH 3 32 0.3 AND 2 83 32 0.4 OF THE ZONING CODE TO INCLUDE ADDITIONAL ACCESSORY USES. 
          AND WHEREAS THE CODE REVIEW COMMITTEE REVIEWED THIS EX EXISTING LAW AND PROPOSED LAW AMENDMENTS AND HAS SENT THESE SUGGESTED REVISIONS TO THE, THE LAW FOR THE TOWN BOARD TO BEGIN THE ADOPTION PROCESS. 
          AND WHEREAS PURSUANT TO MUNICIPAL HOME RULE LAW, THE TOWN BOARD IS PROPOSING TO ENACT OF LOCAL LAW AS FOLLOWS, BEING ENACTED BY THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, NEW YORK, AND THE TOWN HAMBURG TOWN BOARD AMENDS THE HAMBURG TOWN CODE AS FOLLOWS. 
          FULL COPIES ARE ATTACHED AMENDS CHAPTER TWO 80 ZONING BY AMENDING SECTION 3 3 2 0.3 ENTITLED CRAFT BREWERIES AND CRAFT BREWERY ACTIVITIES AND SECTION 3 32 0.4 ENTITLED CRAFT WINERY. 
          WHEREAS PURSUANT TO PART 6 1 7 6 N-Y-C-R-R ARTICLE EIGHT OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION LAW, IT IS THE INTENT OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG TOWN BOARD TO ESTABLISH ITSELF A SECRET LEAD AGENCY AND CONDUCT A COORDINATED REVIEW OF PROPOSED REVISIONS OF THE TOWN CODE CHAPTER TWO 80 DASH ZONING SECTION 3 32 0.3 AND 3 32 0.4. 
          NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED. 
          THE AMBER TOWN BOARD HEREBY ENTERTAINS THESE PROPOSED LOCAL AMENDMENTS AND AUTHORIZES THE REFERRAL OF THESE PROPOSED LOCAL LAW AMENDMENTS TO ERIE COUNTY AND AT THE AMBER PLANNING BOARD FOR ITS REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION. 
          AND TO BEGIN THE SECRET COORDINATED REVIEW PROCESS, ESTABLISHED THE TOWN BOARD AS LEAD AGENCY. 
          SO MOVE SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. 
          A AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS CARRIED. 
          WHEREAS THE COVID PANDEMIC CAUSED A STATEWIDE SHUTDOWN OF EVENTS INCLUDING THE NEW YORK STATE PERMITTED BINGO GANGS AND WHEREAS THE SHUTDOWN INCLUDED OUR LADY OF SACRED HEART, ST. 
          FRANCIS RS CHURCH AND ARMOR VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY. 
          AND WHEREAS THE SHUTDOWN RESULTED IN THE LOSS OF FEES PAID FOR THEIR ANNUAL BINGO LICENSES AND WHEREAS THE NEW YORK STATE OFFICE OF STATE CONTROLLER JUSTICE COURT FUND HAS ISSUED THE NEW NEW YORK STATE PORTION OF THEIR BINGO FEES AND HAS BEEN APPROVED THE RETURN OF THE FEES BY THE TOWN OF HAMBURG NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN OF HAMBURG ISSUE REFUNDS OF BINGO PERMIT FEES AS FOLLOWS, OUR LADY OF SACRED HEART $212 50 CENTS ST. 
          FRANCIS ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH, $92 50 CENTS ARMOR AND VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY $760 VIA FURTHER RESOLVE THAT THE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT BINGO. 
          REVENUE A 0.2540. 
          SO MOVED. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          POLLS EXTENSIONS CARRIED RESOLVE THE TUM BOARD APPROVE THE TOM BOARD AUDIT OF CASH DISBURSEMENT DATED FEBRUARY 5TH, 2024. 
          TOTAL CASH DISBURSEMENT SUBMITTED FOR AUDIT AUDIT $1,709,837 AND 36 CENTS. 
          SO MOVED. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS CARRIED. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A LATE RESOLUTION SECOND, IS IT AN AN EMERGENCY NATURE? I BELIEVE IT IS BECAUSE IT INVOLVES, UM, SERVICES THAT WE'VE ALL DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY AND THAT I THINK WE ALL WOULD BE IN AGREEMENT ARE IMPORTANT FOR US TO TAKE THE NEXT STEP AND SECURE IT INVOLVES OUR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SERVICES. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS CARRIED. 
          WHEREAS THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD, ALONG WITH THE TOWN OF HAMBURG DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CITIZENS ADVISORY BOARD AFFIRMS THE IMPORTANCE OF AND THEIR COMMITMENT TO HAVING A FULL SCOPE OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SERVICES AVAILABLE WITHIN THE TOWN FOR RESIDENTS TO ACCESS. 
          NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES THE SUPERVISOR CONTINGENT UPON LEGAL DEPARTMENT REVIEW TO ENTER INTO A ONE YEAR CONTRACT WITH CHILD AND FAMILY SERVICES HAVEN HOUSE FOR THE FULL SPECTRUM OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SERVICES AS OUTLINED AT LEVEL TWO IN THEIR 1 22 24 PRESENTATION AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED. 
          SERVICES AND PROGRAMMING FOR THE ENTIRE TOWN OF HAMBURG SHALL 
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INCLUDE COURT ADVOCACY, SAFETY PLANNING, LETHALITY ASSESSMENT, EMERGENCY COUNSELING, REFERRALS, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE EDUCATION, AND LINKAGE TO A FAMILY COURT ADVOCATE WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT SERVICES WILL BE PROVIDED AT A LOCATION WITHIN THE TOWN AND THIS LEVEL OF SERVICE CAN BE ADJUSTED AT ANY TIME IN THE FUTURE WITH TOWN BOARD APPROVAL AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED. 
          THE SUPERVISOR AND THE SUPERVISOR'S OFFICE WILL MAKE ALL NECESSARY LOGISTICAL ARRANGEMENTS FOR THE DV ADVOCATE AND ASSOCIATED SUPERVISING PERSONNEL SO AS TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER THE SERVICES AND PROGRAMMING OUTLINED IN THE CONTRACT FUNDS AVAILABLE IN A 3 2 2 5 0.0423 SERVICES CONTRACTS. 
          AND WITH TRANSFER OF FUNDS FROM A 3 2 2 5 0.010 PERSONNEL SERVICES PART-TIME TO A 3 2 2 5 0.0423 SERVICE CONTRACTS. 
          SO MOVED. 
          SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? EXTENSIONS CARRIED. 
          THIS BRINGS US TO, UH, PUBLIC EXPRESSION. 
          UH, IF YOU'D LIKE TO DO HEARD, PLEASE STAND, RAISE YOUR HAND, INDICATE THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN SPEAKING. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME TO YOU IN FRONT OF THE ROOM WHERE WE DO HAVE WE HAVE A MICROPHONE, PLEASE RESET. 
          JUST TWO MINUTES. 
          UM, OR WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? BATHROOM BACK. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE A BRIEF BATHROOM BREAK. 
          UH, WE'LL START IN JUST A FEW MINUTES HERE. 
          DAN. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          THAT CAN GET ME A THERE IS A, I NOW WE HAVE ALREADY. 
          OKAY, PERFECT. 
          I WAS BUBBLE. 
          IT'S CHOKING, CHOKING CARROT. 
          I WAS ON THE PHONE TALKING WITH SOMEBODY FOR A SCHOLARSHIP. 
          NO, SO FAR THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO RELAX. 
          IT GOES AWAY. 
          IT'S NOT WORKING. 
          MY FOOT COWORKER. 
          IT'S ALL IN THE PLATE. 
          THE CARROT IS TRYING TO KILL ME. 
          FLASHING. 
          NO, DOESN'T DO THIS. 
          YOU BROWNIES DOESN'T, YOU KNOW WHAT? THE STIR BROWNIES THAT THE POINT OF LIFE ALL WE'RE READY TO GET STARTED. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          UM, MY NAME'S MARGARET DALE. 
          I LIVE, I LIVE AT 37 82 UBER ROAD. 
          AND, UM, I'D LIKE TO, UH, CALL OUR BOARD MEMBERS CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR, UH, ELECTION AND GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NICE. 
          SEE? SOUNDS KIND OF FUN. 
          FEELS GOOD TO BE BAD. 
          OKAY. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY. 
          CAN'T HEAR YOU. 
          I PUT IT CLOSER TO, WHOA. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I'D LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK THE 2023 FOR SPECIFICALLY FOR THREE M1 RESOLUTIONS ON ALCHEMY. 
          AND I WOULD TAKE GREAT PLEASURE IN READING THESE BECAUSE I AM VERY PLEASED AND I FELT LIKE OUR VOICES WERE HEARD THROUGH A LONG YEAR LONG BATTLE. 
          FIVE THREE STATES INDOOR ALCOHOL USE DURING APPROVED PRIVATE EVENTS, PRIVATE EVENTS FOLLOWED BY NO OUTDOOR ALCOHOL FACILITIES. 
          THIS USE IS NOT A BAR THAT IS OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC. 
          UM, NUMBER SIX STATES OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED NOISE 
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SLASH MUSIC WILL NOT BE PERMITTED. 
          AND I REALLY THINK, AGAIN, THE HARD WORK THAT WENT INTO THESE DECISIONS, AND I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT. 
          UM, CONDITION NUMBER SEVEN, THERE WILL BE NO OUTDOOR EVENTS AFTER DUSK IN PARENTHESES, SUNSET AND INDOOR EVENTS AFTER 10:30 PM IN THEIR BILL. 
          I FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE ON THESE, UM, CLEAR CONDITIONS, BUT I AM NOT CONFIDENT THAT THE OWNERS OF ALCHEMY WILL ACQUIESCE AND ABIDE TO THESE CONDITIONS. 
          AND ALTHOUGH I KNOW THIS IS NOT A CONVERSATION THAT YOU CAN ANSWER, MY QUESTION IS AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE WHAT IS OUR FORCE OF ACTION AS RESIDENTS NEXT TO THIS EVENT CENTER, UM, IN ORDER TO SECURE A PEACEFUL, SAFE LIFE IN LIEU OF ACTIVITIES THAT ARE NOT ALLOWED ON THE PROPERTY. 
          SO I WOULD, AGAIN, ASK THE QUESTION, HOW WILL WE AS RESIDENTS CAUSE THESE BUSINESS OWNERS TO COMPLY WITH THE CONDITIONS PLACED DEPARTMENT? THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I BELIEVE THERE'S ANOTHER QUESTION OVER HERE OR ANOTHER SPEAKER. 
          OH, GO AHEAD. 
          MAY I ADDRESS THAT, MA'AM? FRANK PODOLSKI. 
          UM, WE HAVE AN EXCELLENT LEGAL DEPARTMENT HERE. 
          WE HAVE A TOWN PROSECUTOR. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYTHING'S HAPPENED YET, BUT I MEAN, I THAT'S YOUR RIGHT. 
          AS A CITIZEN, IF YOU FEEL NO LAW'S BEING VIOLATED, WE HAVE CODE ENFORCEMENT AND WE HAVE THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO ENSURE THE LAW'S, THE LAW. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO IF IT'S NOT BEING COMPLIED WITH, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTACT OUR, OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT OR TOM PROSECUTOR, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A VIOLATION OF A LOCAL ORDINANCE, WHICH WOULD BE AT THE DISCRETION OF THE PROSECUTOR TO, TO PROSECUTE. 
          AND HIS NAME IS TIM GALLAGHER. 
          MAY I RESPOND? SURE. 
          SO, SO BEFORE YOU DO, JUST SO IN ANY OF THESE SITUATIONS WHERE CODES ARE BEING VIOLATED, YOU GO TO CODE ENFORCEMENT. 
          IF IT'S AFTER HOURS AND YOU'RE LOOKING FOR MEDIA ATTENTION, YOU GO TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          THOSE ARE THE MOST EFFECTIVE AVENUES FOR YOU TO TAKE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. 
          AND ACTUALLY, WE HAVE FILED CODE ENFORCEMENT TWICE. 
          UH, MY HUSBAND AND I FILED CODE ENFORCEMENT DOWNSTAIRS IN MARCH, 2023 PERTAINING TO OUR BASEMENT FLOODING DUE TO A SEC, EXCESSIVE WATER THAT BLOWS OFF OUR NEIGHBOR'S WAREHOUSE ROOF, WHICH IS EXTREMELY LARGE AND BASICALLY ON THE BORDER OF OUR PROPERTY. 
          WE RE WE RETURNED TO CHECK ON THAT IN AUGUST, AND WE FILED ANOTHER EXACT SAME COMPLAINT. 
          AND I HAVE YET TO HEAR BACK FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT. 
          SO I GUESS I WILL NEED TO CONTACT THE LEGAL TEAM. 
          CORRECT. 
          THEY HAVE NOT RESPONDED TO MY, UH, TO OUR COMPLAINT, TO OUR BASEMENT FLOODING FROM EXCESSIVE WATER. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME TO CONTACT THE LEGAL TEAM IF, IF YOU WOULD LIKE. 
          IS THAT THE CORRECT ORDER OATH? I PREFER TO CONTACT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICE. 
          UH, WE'RE HAPPY TO DISCUSS THE MATTER WITH THEM. 
          USUALLY IF YOU CONSULT WITH THAT DEPARTMENT REGULARLY, WE'RE HAPPY TO CONSULT WITH THEM ON ANY ENFORCEMENT ISSUE THAT THEY HAVE. 
          BUT, UH, REALLY THEY ARE THE AUTHORITY. 
          WE ARE NOT, THEY'RE THE AUTHORITY IN TERMS OF THE TOWN ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE. 
          THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ISSUE A CITATION, WHICH COULD REQUIRE THE, UH, LANDOWNER TO COME TO COURT AND ANSWER IN FRONT OF THE TOWN JUSTICE, THAT CITATION. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S SORT OF, IF YOU HAVE A CRIMINAL COMPLAINT, YOU GO TO THE POLICE, THEY WOULD LODGE, SORRY. 
          THEY WOULD HELP YOU COMPLETE THE PAPERS. 
          IF THEY HAD THE PROPERTIES FACTS IN SUPPORTING DEPOSITION, THEY WOULD FILE THE CHARGES, SERVE THE CHARGES, NOTIFY THE DEFENDANT, AND THEN THE PROSECUTOR OR DISTRICT ATTORNEY, DEPENDING ON IF IT WAS A MISDEMEANOR OR SORRY, A MISDEMEANOR, FELONY A CRIME, IF IT WAS A, A, UH, VIOLATION, WOULD THEN BE THE PROSECUTOR IN, IN THE COUNTY COURT. 
          SO BY THE SAME TOKEN OF ANALOGOUS, YOU SHOULD GO TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT 'CAUSE THEY WOULD BE THE ENTITY THAT HAS AUTHORITY TO ISSUE CITATIONS OR POSSIBLY ADDRESS IT, EVEN IN A SIMPLER FASHION TO GET IT RECTIFIED BEFORE THAT COMES TO THAT. 
          BUT IF THEY DIDN'T COME TO THAT, THEY COULD HAVE THE, THEY WOULD'VE THE AUTHORITY TO FILE THE VIOLATION CITATION. 
          SO FILE A, THE COMPLAINT, UH, CAPTAIN CAN, THAT'S YOUR DEPARTMENT? YEAH. 
          THE, THE ONLY ONE THAT I'M AWARE OF ABOUT HER PROPERTY IS ABOUT HER SANITARY STEWARD. 
          UM, I'M THINKING IT'S BECAUSE JOE BONKO WAS YOUR CODE OF ENFORCEMENT OFFICER AND HE SINCE RETIRED, SO I'M THINKING THAT ONE MIGHT HAVE CAN WE SEND SOMEBODY DOWN TOMORROW? YEAH, I'LL TAKE LITTLE THANK YOU. 
          YES. 
          THAT 
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WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU COULD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OF COURSE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MARLENE CHANA, UH, AMBER RESIDENT AND TAXPAYER HOMEOWNER. 
          SINCE VISITING FRIENDS ON HOOVER ROAD, I'VE BECOME FAMILIAR WITH WHAT OUR NEIGHBORS ARE FIGHTING FOR FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE DAVID AND GOLIATH SITUATIONS WHERE THE ONCARRYING BIG DIE. 
          IN THIS CASE, EE SHORE HOUSE GETS THE MUSCLE IN A NOISY DAWN TO DUST VENUE ON A RESIDENTIAL STREET ALREADY SURROUNDED BY THE RUST BELT, THE COWBOY ON THE LAKE TOWN, SKATE PARK, BAYVIEW RACEWAY AND GOLF S DRIVE-IN AND ORION'S MAN, THE ENCLAVE IS ALREADY TENUOUS MIX OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, RESTAURANTS, RECREATION INDUSTRY, AND BEAUTY. 
          ALCHEMY SHORE HOUSE HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO DISRUPT THIS DELICATE BALANCE OF, WITH THE BACKING OF THE TOWN SUPERVISOR, WHO BY ALL ACCOUNTS SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE RIGHTS AND CONCERNS OF ALL HIS CONSTITUENTS, BUT ISN'T. 
          INSTEAD HE HAS TREATED THE TAX PAYING HOMEOWNERS WITH CONTEMPT AND CITED WITH THE BIG GUY BY ALLOWING THEM TO DENUDE A FRAGILE SHORELINE, IGNORING THE STANDARD ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS, TAPPING TO A PRIVATE SEWER LINE FOR WHICH THERE WAS A COVERUP AND FEEL LIKE THEIR 175 PERSON CAPACITY AND REQUIREMENT TO RETURN DOORS AT DUST BUT NOT BE ENFORCED. 
          BOTH ALBANY SHORE HOUSE AND THE TOWN SUPERVISOR CLEARLY WANT TO INVITE A DE J BUSINESS FROM THE GREATER BUFFALO AREA, INCLUDING FOOD TRUCKS AND A SMALL THREE ACRE PARCEL. 
          AS A COMMERCIAL ALCOHOL ALLOWED ALTERNATIVE TO WOODLAWN BEACH STATE PARK, AND EXISTING BEACH CLUBS, THE LOCAL HOOVER ROAD RESIDENCE DAM. 
          THE IMPACT OF THIS 175 PERSON CAPACITY VENUE WOULD BE TOTALLY OUTSIZED FOR THIS SMALL PARCEL AND WOULD DRAMATICALLY CHANGE THE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          NOT ONLY FOR THOSE ON HOOVER ROAD, BUT FOR ALL THE HOMES IN THE HOOVER BEACH NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THE HAMBURG COMMUNITY IS ALREADY AWARE OF HOW THE AVANTI EVENT VENUE I 27 ACRES HAS DISTURBED ITS SOUTH PARK NEIGHBORS. 
          SOME OF THE HOOVER ROAD HOMES HAVE BEEN LOVINGLY CARED FOR A HUNDRED YEARS OR MORE. 
          THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO REMAIN THERE, UNCROWDED AND UN SANDWICHED BETWEEN TWO BEACH CLUBS, BUT INSTEAD ARE BEING SQUEEZED OUT. 
          THIS WASN'T AUDACIOUS ENOUGH. 
          RUMOR HAS IT THAT THE TOWN LEADERSHIP IS AFTER THE TOWN LEADERSHIP IS DONE FORCING EE SHORE HOUSE ON THESE RESIDENTS. 
          THEIR NEXT PLAN IS TO APPROVE A 56 UNIT APARTMENT BUILDING IN THE ENCL. 
          THEY HAVE NO PUBLIC CONCERN ABOUT HABITATION DENSITY AND QUALITY OF LIFE. 
          THIS MIGHT BE HOW SOME CORRUPT TOWN BOARD IN SOME COUNTRY LIKE ZEN DOES BUSINESS. 
          BUT THIS IS NOT AMERICAN STYLE DEMOCRACY IN ACTION. 
          IT IS A HOT STORY FOR THE LOCAL NEWS, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY THE RESIDENTS HAVE NOT TAKEN THEIR LEGITIMATE COMPLAINTS, THEREBY NOW WHERE ARE THE CALL FOR ACTION JOURNALISTS WHO CAN INVESTIGATE THESE WRONGS AND STAND UP TO THE GOLIATHS IN ROOM ON BEHALF OF THE HORN COUNTY RESIDENTS? , UH, SUNSET BY, UH, I'M NOT CERTAIN. 
          WELL, FIRST OF ALL, UH, I CAN, I COULD HEAR IT REALLY CLEARLY, THE LADY IN KING SPEAKING AS WELL AS THE SUPERVISOR, NOT SO CLEARLY AND AUDIBLY WITH THE OTHER THREE PEOPLE. 
          SO IF YOU COULD JUST, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE SPEAKING, IF YOU LEAN INTO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE, UH, RATHER THAN LOOKING DOWN OR TALKING IN THE PAPER, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. 
          MAYBE IT'S THE SENIOR CITIZEN HEARING IN ME, BUT COULDN'T BE MUCH APPRECIATED. 
          UH, THAT'S NUMBER ONE. 
          AND NUMBER TWO, UH, I REALLY RESPECT THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION IN  BEACH, AND I WOULD SUPPORT, UH, I DON'T LIVE THERE, BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND AND EMPATHIZE WITH YOUR SITUATION. 
          UH, AND THIS PRIMARY REASON THAT I'M ATTENDING THIS MEETING THIS MORNING IS TO ASK, OR THIS SESSION THIS EVENING IS TO ASK YOU, UH, IF EVERYTHING IS COMPLETED WITH, UH, THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BUILD A STORAGE FACILITY, LIKE IN FRONT OF THE TWO-WAY EXIT, HAS THAT BEEN CLEARED? AND ARE YOU FOLKS APPROVING THAT? THAT'S CURRENTLY IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING BOARD AND THEY HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING PAUSING THAT'S CURRENTLY IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING BOARD RIGHT NOW. 
          THE APPLICANT IS, 
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UM, PROPOSING IT STILL AND THEY HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON WEDNESDAY AT 7:00 PM HERE. 
          YES, IN THE BASEMENT. 
          OKAY, FINE. 
          YOU KNOW, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, UH, I WOULD THINK THE COMPANY THAT BIG, THEY COULD CERTAINLY HAVE GOT THE CASHFLOW TO LEASE SOME LAND OR BUY SOME KIND OF A RIGHT OF WAY OFF SOUTHWESTERN BOULEVARD RATHER THAN BRINGING ALL OF THE BIG TRUCKS AND THE TRAFFIC THAT THAT WOULD BRING, UH, AS THE GATEWAY INTO THE TOWN CAMPER AND THE VILLAGE. 
          UH, I MEAN, NOT ONLY IS THERE THE BIG BROUHAHA OVER THOSE TWO HOTELS, BUT NOW WE'RE GETTING THE, UH, AND, AND WE JUST HOPEFULLY ARE STARTING TO PUT THE WHOLE ASPHALT TACO BEHIND US. 
          AND, UH, I AM HOPING THAT, UM, SOMETHING CAN BE DONE TO HAVE, IF THE STORAGE FACILITY SITE, IF THEY CAN ACCESS IT, PLEASE, OFF SOUTHWESTERN BOULEVARD RATHER THAN A LONG CAMP ROAD. 
          JUST SO YOU KNOW, UM, THERE'S NO ACCESS LONG CAMP. 
          THE  HAS TOLD THEM THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT. 
          SO THERE IS GOING TO BE A SIDE ACCESS. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M NOT TOO SURE RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, IT'S STILL IN THE WORKS. 
          UM, I THINK THERE'S A FEW POTENTIAL OPTIONS, BUT RIGHT NOW, THERE, THERE'S NO PLAN FOR IT TO BE A DIRECT ACCESS. 
          WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE LOCATION OF THIS EXACTLY? IT'S RIGHT, IT'S A PARCEL THAT'S RIGHT AT THE INTERCHANGE OF THE MAG. 
          I I WOULD GO ON RECORD SAYING I'M AGAINST THE STORAGE FACILITY THERE. 
          I THINK THAT IT DOESN'T ADD A LOT OF VALUE TO THE TOWN. 
          UM, I REMEMBER AS A, OR, OR A LOT OF TAX REVENUE, BUT AS, AS A BOY, I REMEMBER WHEN THERE WAS LEISURE LAND, RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          AND I REMEMBER GOING TO MOVIES AND HAVING GOOD TIMES. 
          AND YOU KNOW, WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE, UH, AND I ASKED SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS WHEN THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT REVENUE, UH, REDOING OUR TOWN ARENA IS I WOULD LIKE THAT IT'S A GREAT SPOT FOR A COMMUNITY CENTER. 
          I KNOW, LIKE, UH, I I TALKED ABOUT IT AT PRIOR BOARD MEETINGS, BUT THERE WAS A PLAN AT ONE POINT TO PUT AN ARENA IN THERE, A FIELD HOUSE. 
          I THINK LIKE A GREAT PROJECT. 
          IT'S A GREAT SPOT FOR A PROJECT FOR PUBLIC USE, PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, UH, OUR TOWN. 
          AND, UH, AND I DON'T THINK IT WAS OUR, IT WAS THE, UM, ERIE COUNTY DEVELOPMENT AGENCY HAS GIVEN TAX CREDITS, PLACES LIKE FEDEX, UH, AND AMAZON TO HAVE TRUCKS THAT COME IN THAT WHEN YOU DRIVE IT, IT IS A JOKE WHEN YOU COME IN TO, UH, BUFFALO AND THERE'S ACCIDENTS THAT ARE CAUSED THERE. 
          AND IT HASN'T CREATED A LOT OF JOBS. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT, UM, IT'S AN APPROPRIATE USE OF OF TO PUT A STORAGE FACILITY THERE. 
          AND IT, AND IT'S UNSIGHTLY. 
          SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE DONE, THERE IS A COMMUNITY CENTER. 
          WE COULD EVEN PUT A, A SENIOR CENTER THERE. 
          IT MAY NOT HAPPEN ANYTIME QUICKLY, BUT I KNOW THERE WERE PLANS IN THE PAST. 
          THEY HAVE A PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP. 
          I KNOW PAT COLLETTA AND THERE'S DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT WERE INVOLVED, BUT THAT'S A PRIME SPOT FOR HAMBURG THAT COULD BRING REVENUE IN, BUT ALSO A WALKING TRACK FOR PEOPLE. 
          COMMUNITY CENTER. 
          THAT'S WHERE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE TAX CREDITS GO. 
          NOT TO BIG CORPORATIONS LIKE FEDEX AND AMAZON. 
          UM, I KNOW OUR TOWN NEEDS IT. 
          I KNOW THERE'S A GCC. 
          THE, UH, ON, ON THE, ON THE RESERVATION, THERE IS A, A WONDERFUL, UH, COMMUNITY CENTER THAT, UH, OR THE CCC, I'M SORRY, THE CATEGOR COUNTY COMMUNITY CENTER. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN THERE. 
          UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S DONE BY THE, UH, THE SENECA NATION AND IT HAS A HOCKEY ARENA, IT HAS A POOL, IT HAS GYM. 
          AND I WALK IN THERE AND I SEE YOUNG PEOPLE, OLDER PEOPLE, PEOPLE OF ALL AGES PLAYING FOOTBALL, BASKETBALL, SWIMMING, WALKING. 
          AND I THINK HAMBURG, UH, COULD USE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          I DON'T THINK WE NEED ANY MORE STORAGE FACILITIES OR WAREHOUSES. 
          IT DOESN'T ADD TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR CITIZENS. 
          IT DOES POCKET THE RICHER PEOPLE OR THE CORPORATIONS FOR WHAT, WHY SHOULD THEY USE US AND OUR PROPERTY. 
          WE'RE ALREADY OVERDEVELOPING OUR TOWN. 
          WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE TRUCKS IF WE'RE GONNA DEVELOP IT, PUT SOMETHING THERE THAT EVERYONE IN THE TOWN CAN USE FALL AGES. 
          SO I, I AGREE WITH YOU AND I'LL, I MEAN, IT'S, UH, THERE'S PLANNING BOARD ISSUES AND SO FORTH, BUT I, I THINK THERE'S ENOUGH DEVELOPMENT ALREADY THAT I JUST WANTED TO GO ON RECORD AND SAY THAT AS A, AS A COUN UH, COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          UH, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AND YOU GOING ON RECORD AS SAYING THAT. 
          AND I THINK YES, ABSOLUTELY. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN HAMBURG, IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG AND IN THE VILLAGE AS WELL. 
          AND I KNOW THE SENIOR CENTER THAT'S ON SOUTHWESTERN, UH, DID THE TOWN HAVE TO WITHDRAW FROM THERE OR GIVE THAT OWNERSHIP BACK TO THE FRONTIER? YES. 
          MY UNDERSTANDING, AND I ASKED 
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MR. HOPE ABOUT THAT EARLIER AT, UH, IN THE MEETING. 
          I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A FALLING OUT BETWEEN THE TOWN AND THE SUPERINTENDENT. 
          UM, I KNOW SOME PEOPLE ON, ON THE, ON THE PTA AND I'LL BE, I'LL GO ON THE RECORD, I'LL BE STRAIGHT, STRAIGHT UP ABOUT IT. 
          MY UNDERSTANDING IS MR. HO DIDN'T GET ALONG WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT FRONTIER, AND THERE'S BEEN SOME STRIFE, AND I'VE HEARD THAT THROUGH PEOPLE, THROUGH THE FRONTIER SCHOOL SCHOOL BOARD THAT, THAT THE, UH, SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS AND, AND, AND OUR, UM, SUPERVISOR DIDN'T GET ALONG. 
          AND I HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH OTHER BOARD MEMBERS SAYING, YOU KNOW, AND I MENTIONED IT TO MR. HOPE, AND HE SAID THAT THE DOOR, THE DOOR WAS CLOSED ON THAT. 
          BUT I THOUGHT, WHY NOT CALL HIM UP AGAIN, THE SCHOOL AND SAY, HEY, CAN WE WORK IT OUT? IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LOSE THAT. 
          AND IF IT'S SOMEONE ELSE THAT CAN DO IT, MAYBE SOMETIMES PERSONALITIES DON'T GET ALONG, YOU KNOW? AND I, AND I'M NOT BLAMING, I WASN'T THERE AND I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED, BUT MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE FROM THE TOWN CAN APPROACH THE SCHOOL, UH, AND, AND GET THAT DONE. 
          BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A VALUABLE, UM, IT'S A VALUABLE ASSET AND, AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO FIND A PLACE, BUT THAT PEOPLE ARE HAPPY WITH THAT PLACE. 
          AND IF WE COULD WORK IT OUT WITH THE TOWN, I MEAN WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FRONTIER, I'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT BECAUSE THOSE PARTNERSHIPS SAVE MONEY FOR BOTH SIDES, RIGHT? LIKE IF YOU HAVE, UH, SOMETHING THAT CAN BE USED BY PEOPLE FROM SCHOOLS AND THE TOWN, THEN IT'S A, THE PROVERBIAL WIN-WIN. 
          EVERYBODY WINS WHEN PEOPLE ARE USING BUILDINGS. 
          I GET SOME, SOME POINTS, RIGHT? AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I, UM, AND ONE OF MY THOUGHTS IS, IS THAT I REALLY, I MEAN, FOR THE TIME BEING, YES, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD CONTINUE TO UTILIZE THE SENIOR CENTER ON SOUTHWESTERN, BUT ALSO THE POOL SITUATION, UH, IS NOT GREAT. 
          YOU KNOW, WE USE THE POOL OVER ON SOUL'S ROAD, THE NUNS WERE KIND ENOUGH TO LET US USE THAT. 
          BUT THE FACILITY REALLY IS WOEFULLY INADEQUATE. 
          I MEAN, THERE'S ONE DRESSING ROOM, UH, AND YOU'RE ALL PACKED TIGHT, SO YOU'RE DISROBING AND ROVING UP AGAIN. 
          AND THE AIR CONDITIONING IS BLOWING ON YOU WHEN YOU GET OUT OF THE WARM POOL. 
          UH, I THINK THAT YOUR IDEA OF A COMPREHENSIVE CENTER, UH, AT THAT, AT A FACILITY AT THE END OF, UH, THE THROUGHWAY EXIT RATHER THAN A STORAGE FACILITY, WOULD REALLY BE SUCH AN ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR THE QUALITY OF LIFE, AND I THINK IT WOULD CONTINUE TO ATTRACT FAMILIES TO CAMPERS. 
          THAT'S WHY I MOVED HERE. 
          BUT BOY, I'VE BEEN GETTING, I'M PRETTY APPALLED AT WHAT I'VE SEEN HAPPEN, . 
          THAT'S WHY I, I AGREE WITH YOU. 
          AND I THINK WE ARE IN A POSITION, ALL OF US AS CITIZENS AND, AND AS A BOARD MEMBER TO COME UP WITH SOME BOLD IDEAS FOR THE FUTURE. 
          FOR, FOR LIKE, WHY PUT A STORAGE CENTER THERE WHEN YOU COULD HAVE SOMETHING GREAT FOR PEOPLE THAT WOULD MAKE IT GREAT FOR PEOPLE IN HAMBURG, BUT FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO COME VISIT, WHETHER IT'S CHILDREN AT RUNNING AT A TRACK IN HIGH SCHOOL, OR PLAYING HOCKEY OR FIGURE SKATING OR PUBLIC SKATING OR HAVING PARTIES AND EVENTS. 
          AND, UM, I GUESS I'VE SPOKEN ENOUGH, BUT FIELD LEISURE RANK AND, BUT ONE MORE , MS. MS. SHAYNA, I, IF YOU WOULD JUST ALLOW ME TO INTERRUPT. 
          WE, WE, WE ARE, WE DO HAVE RULES THAT THEY CLEARLY STATE. 
          WE LIMIT, UH, PUBLIC EXPRESSION TO, TO THREE MINUTES. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE'D BE HAPPY. 
          WE, WE HAVE, OUR DEPARTMENT SAYS THEY'RE GONNA BE HERE AFTER THE MEETING, AND THE MEETING WILL PROBABLY ADJOURN PROBABLY SOON ENOUGH. 
          WE'D BE HAPPY TO DISCUSS THIS FURTHER WITH YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THANK YOU, SIR. 
          I APPRECIATE, CERTAINLY YOU CAN SAY, ADJOURN YOUR REPORT FROM THE BOARD. 
          I I JUST WANTED TO SAY IT'S THE STATE EDUCATION SYSTEM THAT'S OH YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          BUT YOU WOULD RATHER TALK ABOUT RUMORS THAN ANYTHING YOU WANTED US FROM THE PP, SO, BUT WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. 
          HI, INE GEIER FROM HOOVER ROAD. 
          UM, I RESPECTFULLY, I'D LIKE MY THREE MINUTES TO BE SEPARATE. 
          I'M TALKING, I CHOOSE SEPARATE TOPICS. 
          I COME HERE AS A REPRESENTATIVE, UM, PRESIDENT OF THE LAKE HERE, CHR CENTER. 
          I'M A, IT'S YOU, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          SO FOR THE LAKE HERE, CHR CENTER, IT KIND OF TIES INTO ALL THE GRANT CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE HAVING. 
          UM, WE AT THE CENTER, WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE NOT NECESSARILY BEEN NEGLECTED IN ALL OF THE GRANT WRITING THAT MARKUS AND TEAM HAVE BEEN DOING. 
          I'VE SEEN A LIST OF THE QUEUED UP GRANT MONIES THAT ARE IN PROCESS AND NEVER IS A LAKE  CHL CENTER INCLUDED ON THAT LIST. 
          UM, I'VE BEEN ACTIVELY THERE FOR MANY YEARS SERVING TO KEEP THAT COMMUNITY CENTER THE SAME BEAUTIFUL, AND A PLACE WHERE ALL, ALL OF THE TOWN TO COME. 
          NOT JUST THOSE WHO ARE RESIDENTS THAT CAN'T GET INTO HOOVER BEACH BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE A PERMIT. 
          WE OPEN TO EVERYONE, WE EVEN OPEN TO PETS, PEOPLE THAT 
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WANNA COME AND JUST LET THEIR DOG JUMP IN THE LAKE. 
          SO WE, WE ALLOW PEOPLE TO COME AND WITH THE KAYAKS AND WE ALLOW PEOPLE TO COME AND VISIT THE CENTER AND SEE THE HISTORICAL INFORMATION THAT WE SCROUNGE BY CALLING ALL THE LOCAL, UM, VIEWS OF MUSEUM OF SCIENCE, THE GREAT LAKE SEA, WHICH L WE HAVE TO LOAN US. 
          WE ARE CONSTANTLY LOOKING TO ALL OF OUR LOCAL, UM, PLACES TO GIVE US DISPLAY ITEMS. AND WE'VE DONE A REALLY SMASHINGLY AMAZING JOB. 
          SO THIS YEAR WITH ME AS PRESIDENT, WE'RE GONNA BE REALLY AGGRESSIVELY SEEKING GRANT MONIES, INCLUDING CALLING MARK LUCY THROUGH YOU, FRANK AS OUR REPRESENTATIVE, AS A LIAISON, UM, BUT ALSO BEEN TALKING TO RIVERA'S OFFICE 'CAUSE HE WAS SUPPORTIVE WITH REDFISH. 
          SO, UM, WE WANT MARK MALKI ON OUR SIDE AND ALSO FROM A, UM, THIS IS JUST A QUESTION MARK MALKI, NOT SURE IF HE'S A HAMBURG RESIDENT, BUT I DO KNOW HE SITS ON THE LWRP AND MAKES, YOU KNOW, DECISIONS ON BEHALF OF REVITALIZATION PROJECT FOR THE TOWN OF HAMBURG. 
          SO I'M JUST QUESTIONING, DON'T KNOW, BUT IS THERE ROOM FOR A CONFLICT OF INTEREST THERE WHERE HE'S GETTING PAID TO WRITE GRANTS AND BE PROJECT MANAGEMENT? IS HE GONNA BE LEANING MORE TOWARD PROJECTS THAT ARE DEVELOPING OUR LATE FRONT, NOT NECESSARILY WHAT THE STRATEGIC PLAN CALLS FOR? SO I QUESTIONED MAKI'S ROLE AS OUR GRANT REUTER PAID AGAINST SITTING ON COMMITTEES, MAKING DECISIONS FOR OUR TALENT DEVELOPMENT. 
          I THINK THAT'S MY THREE MINUTES. 
          UM, BUT MAYBE I'LL WAIT FOR THE NEXT MEETING BECAUSE I LOOKED UPON HIMSELF TO SAY ABOUT MARGARET'S CONVERSATION ABOUT ALCHEMY SHORES WE'RE JUST NERVOUS, NERVOUS NEIGHBORS WHO ARE AFRAID. 
          WE'RE AFRAID OF 175 PEOPLE COMING TO A WEDDING AND DISRUPTING OUR PEACE. 
          TALK TO YOU, BETH, TODAY. 
          YOU'RE AMAZING. 
          YOU'VE BEEN ON OUR SIDE ALL ALONG. 
          YOU'VE BEEN SO AMAZINGLY SUPPORTIVE OF US. 
          WE'RE JUST HERE TO SAY CONTINUE TO, TO, TO, UM, SUPPORT US AND KNOW THAT WE ARE GONNA BE THERE LOUD AND STRONG AT THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING ON WEDNESDAY TO VOICE OUR CONCERNS ON THE SITE PLAN. 
          THE SITE PLAN, UM, IS ALL WE HAVE LEFT. 
          BUT TO ME, PUTTING A ALLOWED WEDDING BAN IN THE BUILDING, EVEN CONFINED WITHIN FOUR LO FOUR WALLS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE OUTDOOR MUSIC. 
          NOW, THANK YOU FOR GIVING THAT PAUSE. 
          THAT WAS A HUGE ESCAPE THAT WE FOUGHT HARD FOR. 
          BUT NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A WEDDING BAND ENTERTAINING 175 WEDDING DESKS IN A BUILDING THAT I COULD GO IN MARGARET'S HOUSE AND GO LIKE THIS AND TOUCH WITH MY HAND. 
          I LIVE NEXT TO THE COWBOY BAR. 
          I KNOW HOW LOUD TWO DOORS AWAY FROM A 175 EVENT. 
          I KNOW IT'S LIKE BEING IN A CAR WHEN YOU PULL UP NEXT TO YOU AND YOU HEAR THE BOOM, THE BASE IN THE CAR, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM. 
          DOESN'T MATTER IF ALL THAT CAR'S WINDOWS ARE OFF AND THE DOORS ARE SHUT, YOU STILL HEAR THE BASE, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM. 
          THAT'S WHAT YOU HEAR WHEN YOU'RE NEXT DOOR TO A BUILDING WITH 175 PARTYING WEDDING GUESTS. 
          SO PLEASE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT US. 
          RANDY, THANK YOU FOR LETTING WE HAVE OVER THREE MINUTES. 
          I KNOW I DID. 
          BLESS RNC. 
          JUST TO CLARIFY, MS. GUYER, IF I COULD, UH, ADDRESS SOME OF, UH, WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT, UH, MR. MALKI. 
          I, I CERTAINLY SHARE YOUR CONCERNS. 
          NOW. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE MR. MALKI IS A VOTING MEMBER, BUT HAS BEEN BROUGHT IN TO FACILITATE MEETINGS. 
          HOWEVER, MY CONCERNS IS HE IS UNABLE TO REFRAIN FROM TRYING TO INFLUENCE PROJECTS, UM, ON THE LWRP. 
          OKAY. 
          HE HAS ALIENATED THE VOLUNTEER MEMBERS OF THOSE COMMITTEES AND PEOPLE HAVE WALKED AWAY FROM THOSE COMMITTEES, VERY DISSATISFIED AT HIS PERFORMANCE. 
          AND I HAVE SOME VERY SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT HIS ROLE AND THE EXPANSION OF HIS ROLE ON THOSE COMMITTEES, WHICH IS WHY I BELIEVE WE NEED CLEARER OVERSIGHT OF HIS CONTRACT AS WELL AS HIS DUTIES. 
          FRANCINE, TO CLARIFY, HE DOES NOT VOTE ON, ON THOSE COMMITTEES. 
          AND MR. YOU MENTIONED THAT MR. BALKI IS YOUR LIAISON AND MR. BAL, UH, BALKI HAS THE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR HIM, AND I'M SURE HE'D BE ABLE TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          I'M REFERRING TO A MEETING THAT I WAS ON AND MAYBE I CONFUSED. 
          MARK'S ROLE AS A PROJECT MANAGER PER SE, ACTUALLY VOTING. 
          BUT I WAS ON A MEETING WHERE HE VOTED TO PUSH THE SHORES APPLICATION THROUGH THAT SAYS, YES, THIS IS WHAT THE TOWN WANTS. 
          I WAS ON THAT MEETING, IT WAS FOUR OR FIVE, PROBABLY ONE OF THE WORST DAYS. 
          IT WAS A YEAR AGO FEBRUARY. 
          SO WE'RE ONE YEAR IN NOW. 
          AND I THOUGHT, AND I APOLOGIZE 
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IF I'M WRONG, I'M GLAD CORRECTED ME, MS. FERRELL. 
          UM, I THOUGHT HE WAS VOTING YES, IT IS WITHIN THE, THE TOWN'S DESIRE TO HAVE A WEDDING VENUE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF A HUNDRED HOUSES. 
          SO MAYBE HE WAS JUST BEING THE PROJECT MANAGER AND JUST COLLECTING THE VOTES IN THE ROOM. 
          I HAVE, I PROBABLY HAVE THAT MEETING OR PROBABLY THAT MEETING AT SOMEWHERE AND I'LL REFER WOULD GUESS. 
          THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT, AMY. 
          I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR THE APPOINTMENT FOR, UH, COUNCIL STAFF. 
          UH, ALMOST A FULL MAJORITY, BUT NONETHELESS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO THE BOARD. 
          UM, ALSO AS, UM, UNITED COUNCIL OF HAMBURG, UH, TAXPAYERS, UM, I RESPONDED TO AN EMAIL THAT WAS SENT REGARDING GIVING US OUR, OUR ORGANIZATION ON THE WEBSITE. 
          AND I RESPONDED TO THE WEB OR TO THE EMAIL, AND I'M JUST WAITING FROM THE DOWN BOARD, THE SUPERVISOR FOR A RESPONSE THAT IF WE CAN GET ON THE WEBSITE FOR PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T NEED INFORMATION ABOUT OUR TAXPAYER GROUP, WE'RE ALLOWED TO GIVE IT TO 'EM. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY CONCERN. 
          JUST DO A FOLLOW UP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND UCCI BRADFORD STREET JUST WANTED TO, MR. BOSKY, THE, UH, THE REASON WE'RE GETTING THE PROPOSAL FOR A BIG TRUCK TERMINAL IS THAT THERE'S A CRITICAL SHORTAGE OF WAREHOUSE SPACE RIGHT NOW, ACCORDING TO BUSINESS FIRST. 
          SO EVERYBODY'S CHASING THAT DOG. 
          UH, LISTEN, THAT'S A 77 ACRE SITE. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF ROOM THERE AS A TAXPAYER, I THINK, I THINK BOB WOULD AGREE WITH ME HERE. 
          BOY, COULD WE REALLY USE SOME HOUSING IN THIS TOWN? LOVELY SINGLE FAMILY. 
          MAYBE TWO FAMILY RESIDENCES. 
          THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO PUT IT RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THREE OTHER RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          WE'VE GOT SCRANTON, WE'VE GOT BIG PINE CREEK VIEW, WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT CARNEGIE, WE'VE GOT THE, GOT THE FOLKS OVER ON, ON SUNSET. 
          WE'VE GOT LOVELY RESIDENTIAL. 
          HEY, BY THE WAY, THAT'S WHY I MOVED TO HAMBURG BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANNA LIVE IN AMHERST. 
          I DIDN'T WANNA DEAL WITH THE TRAFFIC. 
          I DIDN'T, DON'T WANNA DEAL WITH INGESTION. 
          I DIDN'T, DIDN'T WANNA DEAL WITH THE, WITH THE, WITH THE INSANE DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND IF THE CURRENT OWNER OF THE PROPERTY CAN'T FIND A WAY TO FIND SOMETHING, AN APPROPRIATE USE OF PROPERTY. 
          AND I BELIEVE I'VE LOOKED AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND I BELIEVE THAT IT SAYS THAT HOUSING IS PROBABLY THE PREFERRED DEVELOPMENT FOR THIS AREA. 
          SO THE OLD LEISURE LAND SITE COULD REALLY COULD TURN TO NOT ONLY, NOT ONLY COULD WE AVOID THE POSSIBILITY OF AN EMPTY WAREHOUSE 10 YEARS, 20 YEARS FROM NOW, BUT WE COULD HAVE COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE, A VIBRANT COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE PAYING TAXES FOR THE NEXT 75 YEARS. 
          I CAN'T SEE ANY PURPOSE IN TRYING TO TURN THIS INTO A MASSIVE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. 
          WE'RE ALREADY JAMMED UP WITH THE, I WOULD LOOK, I PERSONALLY, I NEED TO FIND OUT WHO THE TRAFFIC SAFETY, UH, ADVISORY BOARD, UH, CHAIRMAN IS. 
          WHO AM I LOOKING AT? THANK YOU. 
          UH, CAN WE SPEAK AFTERWARDS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UH, BUT CURRENTLY WE'RE REACHING POINT OF SATURATION TRAFFIC DURING, DURING THE CRIME HOURS HERE ON, ON THE CAMP ROAD. 
          IT'S GETTING DANGEROUS. 
          OUR SIDEWALKS ARE NOT TENABLE. 
          IT, THIS, THIS RECENT STORM WIPED OUT SIDEWALKS. 
          YOU CAN'T WALK. 
          EVERYBODY HAD TO WALK IN THE STREET TWICE, STILL DOWN THE STREET WALKING THE STREET. 
          THIS ISN'T A GOOD USE. 
          UH, THIS ISN'T A GOOD PLACE TO PUT A WHOLE LOT OF TRAFFIC IN THERE. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR OH, ONE LAST THING. 
          IF I COULD SPEAK ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT, PERHAPS WE CAN FIND A WAY TO, UH, MAKE A MORE ROBUST CODE ENFORCEMENT WITH MORE INTERESTING PENALTIES FOR A VIOLATION THAT WOULD DETER CONTRARY TO CURRENT SOCIETAL UH, NORMS. PUNISHMENT IS STILL A DETERRENT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. 
          WELL, THAT WOULD SAVE ME SOME MONEY 'CAUSE MY WIFE WANTS TO PUT A CONSEQUENCES THROUGH. 
          WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO BE HEARD? LOOK AT THAT BRINGS US TO REPORTS FROM DEPARTMENT HEADS. 
          WE'LL START WITH, UH, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO REPORT MR. BERELL? ON MY, MY, UH, SIGNIFICANT PREVIOUS COMMENTS? I'LL PASS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, ASSESSING, REMIND EVERYBODY ONE MORE TIME. 
          UM, MARCH 1ST IS COMING DEADLINE FOR ALL EXEMPTIONS. 
          ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE JUST CONTACT THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HIGHWAY. 
          UH, YES, WE TOOK DELIVERY OF OUR TWO HIGH LIFTS, UH, THIS WEEK. 
          UH, WE'VE BEEN CURRENTLY PUTTING 'EM ON THE ROAD. 
          UH, WE TOOK DELIVERY OF ONE OF THE PLOW TRUCKS. 
          UM, WE'RE CURRENTLY PUTTING THAT ON THE ROAD. 
          AND THE OTHER, THE OTHER PLOW TRUCK WILL BE HERE NEXT WEEK. 
          UM, WE'RE, UH, COAL PATCHING AND WE'RE PICKING UP CHRISTMAS TREES BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN SAVE NOW. 
          UM, SO WE'RE FINISHING UP DOING THAT. 
          AND, UM, WE'RE GONNA BE PUTTING TOGETHER A LIST OF ROADS GONNA BE PAVED AND, UM, PREVENTED MAINTENANCE, UH, FOR 2024. 
          GONNA BE COMING OUT 
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SOON. 
          UM, I RUSH OUR BUS SCHEDULES OUT FOR THE YEAR FROM MARCH 1ST, OCTOBER 30 MARCH. 
          THAT'S OUT. 
          THAT'S, UH, THAT'S ON MY WEBSITE, DOWNTOWN WEBSITES. 
          UM, AND ALSO A LARGE TRASH PICKUP IS ALSO ON THE, UH, THE, UH, WEBSITE ALSO. 
          SO IF HAVE QUESTIONS, GIVE US, GIVE MY OFFICE A CALL, WE HELP YOU OUT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. HUGHES. 
          UM, MR. HUGHES, ARE WE, UH, SUING POTHOLES? YES. 
          AND I, I JUST GOT ONE OTHER QUESTION. 
          I MEAN, UH, I, I KNOW THE SNOW'S MELTING AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT IS IT POSSIBLE TO, UH, GET SOME EQUIPMENT AND MAYBE MAKE A, UH, DEAL OR CONTRACT WITH THE STATE AND COUNTY TO CLEAR LIKE SOUTHWESTERN OR SOME OF THESE COUNTY ROADS AND THESE OTHER ONES WHERE THESE PEOPLE ARE FORCED TO WALK IN THE STREET WITH 45 MILE AN HOUR TRAFFIC OR 50 MILE AN HOUR TRAFFIC? YOU TALKING ABOUT THE SIDEWALKS SIDEWALK? YES. 
          UM, I UNDERSTAND. 
          YOU KNOW, I MEAN, PEOPLE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO CLEAR THEIR SIDEWALKS OR THEY COULD BE, YOU KNOW, PENALIZED. 
          YOU KNOW, AND HERE'S THIS, YOU KNOW, LIKE SOUTHWESTERN, YOU WALK, YOU KNOW, YOU GO DOWN THERE, PEOPLE ARE FORCED TO WALK IN THE STREET. 
          SOME OF THE COUNTY ROADS ARE FORCED TO WALK IN THE STREET. 
          THE ONLY PROBLEM WE RUN INTO IS I DON'T HAVE AN AUTHORITY ON COUNTY OR STATE ROADS. 
          NO, I'M SAYING, IS THERE A WAY OF MAKING A, A DEAL OR A CONTRACT WITH THEM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, HEY, WE'LL, WE'LL, YOU KNOW, WE'LL DO THIS THE SIDEWALK, BUT WE WANT SOMETHING TO RETURN OR GIVE US THE EQUIPMENT TO DO IT, OR, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? TOWN DOESN'T HAVE ANY EQUIPMENT THAT HANDLES SIDEWALK. 
          THAT'S WHAT'S, THAT'S MY POINT. 
          SO, YEAH, I WILL, UH, I, I TALKED TO YOU AFTER THE MEETING. 
          ALL RIGHT, THANKS. 
          BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, UH, GUTTERS WILL BE GETTING REPAIRED ON WEDNESDAY FROM THE STORM DAMAGE. 
          UM, TOWN PARKS, SPRINKLER HEADS INSIDE THE FITNESS CENTER AND DOWNSTAIRS HAVE BEEN UPGRADED. 
          THOSE ARE AT A DATE. 
          AND, UH, OUR WINTERTIME PROJECT LIST CONTINUES. 
          UH, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE BAKING TOWN HALL HALLWAYS HERE. 
          TAYLOR ROADS GONNA BE NEXT. 
          WE DID CLERK'S OFFICE CARPETS. 
          WE'RE GONNA BE WAXING AND BUFFING SOME FLOORS AROUND TOWN. 
          AND, UM, THAT'S ABOUT IT. 
          THANK YOU, CHIEF DENNIS. 
          THE, UH, LAST FEW DAYS, UH, FOR THE DEPARTMENT HAVE BEEN, UH, VERY LONG. 
          AND, UH, PUTTING IT ON, PUTTING IN THE LAST FEW DAYS HAVE BEEN, UH, VERY LONG. 
          UH, A LOT OF LONG HOURS AND PUTTING IN A LOT OF TIME. 
          AND WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THE FOLKS THAT HAVE SENT, UH, THOUGHTS, EMAILS, TEXTS, SUPPORTING THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE DEPARTMENT. 
          IT IS, UH, SINCERELY APPRECIATED. 
          WE ARE GOING TO BE HAVING A PRESS CONFERENCE TOMORROW. 
          I HAD TO MOVE THE TIME TO 2:00 PM IN, UH, MY CONFERENCE ROOM. 
          SO TOMORROW AT 2:00 PM WE'LL BE HOLDING A PRESS CONFERENCE TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW, UH, AND THE CIRCUMSTANCE OF, OF WHAT HAPPENED ON FRIDAY, THE SECOND. 
          THANKS. 
          THANKS. 
          CHIEF. 
          UH, YOUTH REC AND SENIOR SERVICES, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR, UH, THE TOWN BOARD VOTING TO SEND OUR FOUR YOUTH, UH, TO THE YOUTH LEADERSHIP FORUM. 
          THEY'RE CURRENTLY THERE. 
          THEY HAVE MET WITH ASSEMBLY MEMBER OFRA, AND THEY ARE CURRENTLY FROM THE TAX I JUST RECEIVED IN THE LEAD IN THE TRIVIA GAME, UM, AGAINST OTHER YOUTH FROM NEW YORK STATE. 
          HOPEFULLY THEY BRING IT HOME. 
          UM, FEBRUARY 8TH, WE'LL HAVE AN ACRYLIC PAINTING WORKSHOP AT THE CENTER. 
          UH, ON THE NEXT DAY, FEBRUARY, WE'LL HAVE ELDER FRAUD AND STATE PLANNING PRESENTATION. 
          UH, FEBRUARY 12TH WE HAVE COFFEE WITH A COP, WHICH WAS EXTREMELY POPULAR. 
          WE'RE HOPING TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE TO THAT. 
          WE HAVE A SOLAR ECLIPSE PRESENTATION ON FEBRUARY 13TH AT 1:00 PM THAT ANYONE IS ABLE TO ATTEND AT THE CENTER. 
          OUR SCHOOL BREAK CAMP BEGINS FEBRUARY 20TH THROUGH THE 22ND FROM NINE TO THREE. 
          AND THEN ON, UH, FEBRUARY 21ST AT ONE 30, WE HAVE THE GRANDPARENT ICE CREAM SOCIAL DURING THIS, THE BREAK AS WELL. 
          UM, AND I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU, UH, TO THE RESIDENT WHO BROUGHT UP, UH, THE CENTER. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE ALL THE STUFF THAT WE HAVE, HOW IMPORTANT IT IS AND THE NEED FOR EXPEDIENCE, UH, SINCE WE'LL BEGIN SHARING COME JULY. 
          SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 
          TRAFFIC SAFETY. 
          OKAY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE OUR MEETING, UH, FEBRUARY 8TH, THIS THURSDAY AT TOWN HALL STARTING AT 7:00 PM UM, ALL OUR MEETINGS ARE GONNA BE ON THE, UM, SECOND THURSDAY OF EVERY MONTH. 
          AND I KNOW THERE WAS SOME CONCERNS. 
          UM, I'VE BEEN TAKING SOME PHONE CALLS THROUGH PART THIS COURT, THE RESIDENTS THERE. 
          UM, MY COMMITTEE HAS ACTUALLY BEEN VERY PROACTIVE AND WE ARE DOWN THERE GATHERING DATA. 
          SO JUST WANNA LET THE TOWN BOARD KNOW ABOUT. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT BRINGS US UP TO SUPERINTENDENT 
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PUBLIC WORKS. 
          UM, JUST WANNA LET THE BOARD KNOW. 
          NEXT WORK SESSION. 
          I'M GONNA DO A PRESENTATION ON ALL THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE ONGOING AND THE RFPS THAT WE WORK DONE. 
          NOW, I'M ALSO GONNA LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT WE DID RESPOND TO OUR, UM, COMMENTS WE GOT FROM OUR EPA AND DC INSPECTION OF PARAMOUNT . 
          THAT LETTER WENT BACK OUT AND, UH, I LET, UM, OTHER QUESTIONS PRESENT. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          ENGINEERING. 
          NOPE, I HAVE NOTHING TO REPORT, BUT I DID WANNA MENTION TO THE BOARD MEMBERS WHO ARE ATTENDING THE ASSOCIATION OF TOWNS. 
          I AM SPEAKING AT THE EVENTS, UH, ON THESE MASTERS FORM WATER DISTRICT FOR TOWN OF WORK PARK, 15 YEAR SCHEDULE. 
          MAYBE I WILL SEE YOU. 
          IF NOT, PERHAPS I'LL SEE YOU WITH YOU. 
          GREAT, THANKS, JIMMY. 
          AWESOME. 
          UM, THE PLANNING BOARD IS, OR I'M SORRY, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS WORKING WITH GOBI ON THEIR CONTRACT FOR THE LAKE AVE, UM, GRANT FOR THE COUNTY. 
          SO, UM, I WILL BE SUBMITTING A RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE THE, THE, UH, THE SUPERVISOR TO SIGN UP FOR THE NEXT MEETING. 
          UM, AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE'LL BE ABLE TO START DATA COLLECTION FOR THE , UM, CORRIDOR PLAN AND BEGIN TO SCHEDULE SOME PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. 
          UM, I ALSO REPORTED, UH, I THINK ON THE FIRST MEETING THAT WE'D WANT A GRANT FROM G-B-N-R-T-C, THE REGIONAL TRANSIT COUNCIL FOR, UM, THE GREENWAY TRAIL THAT STARTS ON OLD EAST EDEN ROAD. 
          UM, WE HAD A MEETING WITH 'EM RECENTLY AND THEY LET US KNOW THE DETAILS OF THAT. 
          SO G-B-N-R-T-C IS NOT AWARDING US MONEY, BUT THEY THEMSELVES ARE DOING A FEASIBILITY STUDY. 
          UM, AND THAT WILL BE COMMENCING, THAT'LL BE STARTING IN FEBRUARY, OR I'M SORRY, SEPTEMBER. 
          SO, UM, THEY'RE FINISHING UP A FEW PROJECTS AND THEN COME SEPTEMBER THEY'RE GONNA DO A STUDY ON IF THAT IS WHAT IT WOULD TAKE FOR THAT TO BE AN, UM, AN OFFER OF TRIAL THAT IS ACCESSIBLE FOR THE PUBLIC TO USE. 
          UM, AND THEN JUST ANOTHER EXCITING, OUR EN ENGINEERING PLANNING AND BUILDING HAVE BEEN CONTINUING TO BUILD THEIR COLLABORATION, REALLY BEEN BENEFITING THAT FROM THAT. 
          I KNOW THE PLANNING BOARD HAS HAD A LOT OF, UM, GOOD INFORMATION COME JUST FROM THE INCREASED COLLABORATION THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO BUILD BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENTS. 
          WE STARTED DOING MONTHLY MEETINGS JUST TO LINE UP ON ALL THE PROJECTS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, PROJECTS START WITH PLANNING, GO TO ENGINEERING, END IN BUILDING, AND EVEN TALKING TO KIM TODAY, THEY END TO ASSESSING LATER ON. 
          SO WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING TO CONTINUE TO BUILD THE COMMUNICATION AND SYSTEMS TO KEEP EACH OTHER INFORMED ON WHERE PROJECTS ARE IN EACH OF THE RESPECTIVE PROCESSES AND DEPARTMENTS. 
          UM, AND THEN FOR THE MEETING NEXT, FOR THE NEXT MEETING, UM, WE'LL HAVE A PRESENTATION ON LWRP, WHERE THAT STANDS, HOW IT RELATES TO THE BOA PROJECT, HOW IT RELATES TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEE, AND HOW IT ALSO RELATES TO THE, UM, TO THE GRANT FOR CODE UPDATES. 
          SO THAT WILL BE COMING NEXT. 
          THANK YOU, FINANCE. 
          NOTHING TO REPORT. 
          I REPORT REPORTS FROM TOWN BOARD. 
          WE'LL START WITH OR TOWN CLERK THERE. 
          YOU'RE . 
          I WANNA THANK THE TOWN BOARD FOR APPROVING MY CLERK TYPIST POSITION. 
          IT'S LONG OVERDUE AND WE'RE GONNA PUT HER RIGHT TO WORK AS SOON AS SHE STARTS ON THE 12TH. 
          AND THANK THE BOARD FOR PASSING THE POST OFFICE RESOLUTION. 
          UM, THAT'S BEEN, UM, SUPPORTED BY THE, UH, TOWN CLERKS ERIE COUNTY TOWN CLERKS ASSOCIATION. 
          THIS CAME UP 10 YEARS AGO. 
          WE SUPPORTED IT 10 YEARS AGO TOO, AND THEY STILL DID IT AGAIN. 
          AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK THE CHIEF, UM, HIM AND HIS MEN AND HI STAFF. 
          THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB HELPING US WITH THE DCO BEING OUT AND, UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THEIR HELP. 
          THANKS, CHIEF. 
          OKAY. 
          REPORTS ON BOARD COUNCIL MEMBER FARRELL LORENZ. 
          UM, I WOULD LIKE TO START BY NOTING, UM, TWO RECOGNITIONS THAT ARE GOING ON THIS THIS MONTH. 
          UM, FEBRUARY IS BLACK HISTORY MONTH, AND IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO RECOGNIZE, UM, HOW BLACK HISTORY IS WOVEN INTO OUR INDUSTRY THROUGH THE PAST AND ONGOING CONTRIBUTIONS OF BLACK AMERICANS. 
          AND IT'S EVIDENT THROUGHOUT ALL ASPECTS OF OUR CULTURE AND DEVELOPMENT AS A NATION. 
          UH, WE ALSO, DURING FEBRUARY, 2024 IS TEEN DATING VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH. 
          UM, AGAIN, IT, UH, REINFORCES THE IMPORTANCE OF THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, UM, SERVICES THAT WE CONTRACTED WITH HAVEN HOUSE. 
          AND, AND WE'VE HAD THESE SERVICES. 
          IT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN UNIQUE IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, THAT WE'VE HAD A MORE, UH, DIRECT WAY IN WHICH OUR RESIDENTS CAN ACCESS THOSE TYPE OF SERVICES. 
          UM, IT'S AN IMPORTANT TOPIC. 
          I KNOW THERE ARE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE HAPPENING IN OUR SCHOOLS TO, UH, EDUCATE, UH, OUR, OUR YOUTH. 
          AND, UM, 
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AND I APPLAUD THEM FOR THEIR EFFORTS AS, AS THEY, UH, WORK ON THIS DIFFICULT ISSUE IN THE SCHOOLS. 
          UH, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REQUEST, THEY, WE HAD SOME GREAT PRESENTATIONS DURING WORK SESSION, AND IT'S VERY, VERY HELPFUL FOR THE BOARD, INCLUDING OUR, OUR NEW MEMBERS. 
          AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, ASK IF WE COULD, IN THE FUTURE, NEXT MEETING, OR THE ONE OF THE NEXT TWO MEETINGS, UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF WE COULD HAVE AN UPDATE ON THE FRONT, UH, THE TOWN HALL FRONT AREA PROJECT. 
          I KNOW THERE WAS MANY, MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. 
          I'M NOT SURE WE'VE SEEN A PLAN IF, UM, THE CONSULTANT COULD GIVE US A PRESENTATION ON THAT, IF WE CAN BE INVOLVED IN THAT DECISION MAKING, IN THAT THOUGHT PROCESS. 
          AND THEN ALSO OUR EBC, OUR, OUR PAYROLL. 
          I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, AND I THINK THAT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL FOR US TO, AT A WORK SESSION, HAVE A PRESENTATION, UM, FROM THE COMPANY AND OR OUR PERSONNEL DEPARTMENT SO THAT WE CAN ALL HAVE A BETTER HANDLE ON WHAT'S HAPPENING AND HOW WE CAN MAYBE HELP WITH, UM, ANY OF THOSE SITUATIONS. 
          AND IN PARTICULAR WITH THE TOWN HALL PROJECT TO HAVE SOME, UM, UH, COMMUNICATION ABOUT WHAT'S, WHAT'S PLANNED FOR, FOR THERE. 
          I WOULD ALSO LIKE JUST TO THANK OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, THERE'S SO MANY TIMES DURING A DAY, A WEEK, A MONTH, A YEAR WHEN, UM, I'M SURE MOST OF US DON'T EVEN APPRECIATE ALL OF THE THINGS. 
          AND I, AND YOU HEAR ME THANK MANY OF OUR DEPARTMENTS, BUT TONIGHT, I JUST FEEL COMPELLED TO REALLY JUST SAY THANK YOU AND PLEASE EXTEND THAT TO, TO YOUR DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, AND I THINK THAT'S COUNCIL MEMBER . 
          UM, JUST WANTED TO NUMBER ONE, START BY THANKING THE RESIDENTS. 
          ONCE AGAIN, I'M ALWAYS BLOWN AWAY BY THE, UH, LARGE AMOUNT OF RESIDENT INTEREST AND COMMENT. 
          IT'S ALWAYS NICE TO SEE, UM, IT'S GROWN YEAR OR MEETING AFTER MEETING SINCE I'VE BECOME A MEMBER. 
          AND I REALLY DO APPRECIATE SEEING IT. 
          SO MANY MEETINGS, IT WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, A FEW HANDFUL OF DEPARTMENT HEADS OUT THERE. 
          AND NOW IT'S A VERY FULL AUDIENCE THAT FILLS THE SEAT. 
          SO THAT WARMS MY HEART TO SEE IT. 
          I HAVE TO ECHO, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER VERA LORENZO'S SENTIMENTS ABOUT RECOGNIZING ALL THE AMAZING THINGS GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THE EXTRA STEPS EVERYBODY IS TAKING. 
          UM, IF IT'S FROM THE EDUCATORS WORKING ON MAKING SURE EVERYBODY IN THE SCHOOLS APPRECIATES THE IMPORTANCE OF BLACK HISTORY MONTH, I KNOW WE'RE CELEBRATING IT IN MY CLASSROOM, OR RECOGNIZING THE IMPORTANCE OF TEEN VIOLENCE AND RELATIONSHIPS AND EDUCATING KIDS EARLY AND EDUCATING THE YOUTH EARLY TO THE SIGNS SO THEY CAN BE BETTER INFORMED AS YOUNG ADULTS AND AS PARTICIPANTS IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          AND THEN ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU TO THE POLICE. 
          UM, NOBODY EVER SAYS IT QUITE ENOUGH UNTIL THEY REALLY NEED YOUR HELP. 
          SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE PLOW DRIVERS. 
          YOU MAY NOT APPRECIATE THEM UNTIL THAT SIX FEET OF SNOW SHOWS UP. 
          YOU NEVER REALLY THINK TO SAY THANK YOU UNTIL YOU REALIZE YOU NEED IT. 
          SO, THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER BOSKY. 
          THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR. 
          HOPE. 
          UM, FIRST THING I WANTED TO UM SAY IS I'VE BEEN, SINCE I'VE BEEN ELECTED, UH, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO AN INVENTORY OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT MAYBE COSTS COULD BE CUT AND TO GET INFORMATION. 
          AND I'VE SENT SEVERAL LETTERS TO OUR PERSONNEL DEPARTMENT TO GET INFORMATION ABOUT EMPLOYEES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE ON CIVIL SERVICE LISTS. 
          UM, AS A WAY OF HISTORICAL CONTEXT, TEDDY ROOSEVELT WAS THE, UH, ONE OF THE FOUNDERS OF THE CIVIL SERVICE MOVEMENT WHEN HE WAS MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY. 
          AND WE HAVE OUR POLICE CHIEF HERE. 
          PEOPLE USED TO GET JOBS BASED ON POLITICS AND PAYING PEOPLE OFF. 
          AND ONE OF THE TENETS OF CIVIL SERVICE IS THAT YOU GET A JOB BASED ON MERIT AND FITNESS AND NOT WHO YOU PAY OR WHO YOU KNOW. 
          SO OVER THE PAST MONTH, I'VE MADE REQUESTS, I'VE COPIED OUR FOIL OFFICER AND OUR PERSONNEL DIRECTOR, AND I'VE GOTTEN NO RESPONSE OTHER THAN I, FROM OUR PERSONNEL DIRECTOR THAT I GET TWO OR 300 REQUESTS A DAY, WHICH I FIND A LITTLE CRAZY. 
          I JUST POINT THAT OUT FOR THE TOWN BOARD BECAUSE MY REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION ARE NOT GONNA GO AWAY. 
          UM, AND I'LL, AND I'LL BE PUTTING THIS, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC ON NOTICE AND MAYBE THE PRESS THAT I'M A COUNCIL MEMBER IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG AND I'VE REQUESTED INFORMATION AND I DON'T GET IT, AND PEOPLE ELECTED ME TO DO A JOB, AND I'M GONNA DO IT. 
          AND I'M NOT GONNA TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS. 
          WHEN I TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT THIS, THEY'RE OUTRAGED THAT I CAN'T GET THE INFORMATION. 
          NOW, THERE ARE LEGAL RAM UH, RAMIFICATIONS, UH, FOR NOT PROVIDING THIS INFORMATION TO ME, AND THOSE STEPS WILL BE TAKEN. 
          BUT I'M HOPEFUL THAT BY AIRING THIS OUT IN THE PUBLIC ABOUT MY REQUEST, THAT I WILL GET THE INFORMATION I'VE REQUESTED. 
          I WILL CONTINUE TO COPY BOARD MEMBERS ON THIS, AND I KNOW I WILL GET IT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, BUT I DON'T APPRECIATE ON BEHALF OF THE PEOPLE THAT ELECTED ME NOT BEING ABLE TO DO MY JOB. 
          I CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT THE INFORMATION. 
          WITH THAT SAID, UM, MORE POSITIVE NOTES, I DO, UH, THANK OUR POLICE CHIEF HERE, UM, FOR, UH, AND OUR 
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LAW ENFORCEMENT. 
          I KNOW IT'S A DIFFICULT, UH, JOB THAT, THAT YOU HAVE. 
          IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE GONNA EARN THAT KIND THAT, THAT THE BOARD APPROVED, BUT THAT'S WHY WE HAVE PROFESSIONALS SUCH AS YOU, UH, TO GUIDE OUR TOWN IN THOSE DIFFICULT, UH, SITUATIONS. 
          AND JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW AS A BOARD MEMBER, AND, AND I THINK WE SPEAK FOR ALL OF US, IF THERE'S ANY SUPPORT THAT YOU NEED, UH, LET US KNOW. 
          WE'RE HAPPY TO, UH, TO BE THERE FOR YOU. 
          UH, I APPRECIATE THAT THERE'S INFORMATION COMING OUT FROM, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO OUR RESIDENTS, BUT ALSO ITIES TO KNOW THAT THIS IS TRANSPARENT AND THAT YOU'RE GONNA PROVIDE INFORMATION IN A, UH, UH, IN, IN A PRESS CONFERENCE TOMORROW. 
          I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT. 
          AND, AND I APPRECIATE THE, UH, THE, THE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, I ALSO DO SUPPORT, UH, BLACK HISTORY MONTH, AND I SEE SOME UNION MEMBERS HERE. 
          UM, MY FAVORITE, UH, ONE OF MY FAVORITE, UH, AFRICAN AMERICANS IS A PHILIP RANDOLPH, WHO, UM, HE, UH, WAS, UH, A UNION LEADER AND HE HAD, UH, INSPIRED MARTIN LUTHER KING TO DO THE MARCH ON WASHINGTON. 
          HIS THOUGHT WAS TO GET A LOT OF WORKERS TOGETHER AND DO A MARCH ON WASHINGTON. 
          AND THAT WAS SOMETHING, UH, THAT WAS INSPIRED BY LABOR. 
          SO I, I RECOGNIZE OUR, OUR, OUR LABOR LEADERS HERE. 
          AND, UM, HE, HE WAS, UH, A WONDERFUL LABOR LEADER, AFRICAN-AMERICAN LABOR LEADER. 
          UM, AS FAR AS, UH, THE CITIZENS, I APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR INPUT. 
          I KNOW I MAY NOT, UM, ALWAYS AGREE WITH WHAT PEOPLE SAY, BUT I'M GLAD TO GET THE INPUT BECAUSE YOU COULD CHANGE OUR MIND. 
          AND THAT'S WHY WHEN YOU COME HERE AS CITIZENS, IT'S GREAT TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY, BECAUSE HONESTLY, I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT, UH, HOUSES OVER THERE BY, BY CAMP ROAD. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, I'LL THINK ABOUT IT NOW BECAUSE YOU'RE EDUCATING ME ON SOMETHING THAT I MAYBE DIDN'T KNOW. 
          SO I APPRECIATE THE INPUT. 
          UM, AS VOLTAIRE SAID, I MAY DISAGREE WITH WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY, BUT I'LL FIGHT TO THE DEATH TO PROTECT YOU RIGHT, TO SAY IT. 
          SO I WELCOME ANY CRITICISM, ANY COMMENT. 
          UM, I HAVE THICK SKIN, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE GET BETTER AS A TOWN WHEN WE LISTEN TO PEOPLE AND WE HAVE DIALOGUE, BECAUSE I, AS YOUR REPRESENTATIVE, AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, WANT TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY, MAY NOT ALWAYS AGREE, BUT I'LL RESPECT YOUR RIGHT TO SAY. 
          SO. 
          THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND PARTICIPATING IN YOUR TOWN AND YOUR DEMOCRACY AND YOUR AND YOUR COUNTRY. 
          THANK YOU, MR. COZA. 
          YEP. 
          I JUST WANNA THANK EVERYBODY FOR BEING HERE. 
          UH, CHIEF, THANKS TO YOUR MAN. 
          I MEAN, I, IT'S BEEN A BUSY 30 DAYS, I BELIEVE, OR SOMEWHERE AROUND THAT. 
          I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT TIME WITH THOSE COUPLE MEN AND WOMEN. 
          COUPLE INCIDENT, I'M SORRY, MEN AND WOMEN, UM, ALSO WANT TO, UH, RECOGNIZE, UH, BLACK HISTORY MONTH. 
          I MEAN, IT'S, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST, YOU KNOW, THEY THINK OF SPORTS FIGURES IN THESE, BUT YOU HAVE FEW, LIKE, UH, DANIEL HALE WILLIAMS, FIRST PERSON TO DO HEART SURGERY, YOU KNOW, UM, WHERE WOULD WE BE WITHOUT CATHERINE JOHNSON, UH, WITH HER CALCULATIONS ON US OUT TO THE MOON? I MEAN, SO, UM, BLACK HISTORY IS AMERICAN HISTORY, AND AS SOON AS EVERYONE GETS THAT THROUGH THEIR HEAD, THIS'LL BE A BETTER WORLD ALSO. 
          HAPPY VALENTINE'S, BECAUSE WE WON'T BE HERE TILL BEFORE THEN. 
          YOU TOO, HONEY. 
          SO, UM, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY A FEW THINGS. 
          THERE WAS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THE PROPERTY, THE PROJECT THAT'S COMING NEAR CAMP ROAD, UH, AND THERE'S, I THINK WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT PARCELS. 
          SO THE WAREHOUSE PROJECT ON ITS 70 ACRE SITE IS DIFFERENT THAN THE PROPERTY THAT WAS LEISURE LAND. 
          AND THE PROPERTY THAT IS, IS THE, UH, NOW AVAILABLE THAT IS STATE PROPERTY THAT RESULTED FROM REMOVAL OF, OF THE CLOVER LEAVE. 
          SO, UM, IMPORTANT CONVERSATION. 
          UM, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE EVERYBODY AWARE THAT THO THOSE ARE TWO, TWO SEPARATE ISSUES. 
          UM, TO COUNCILMAN RE, UH, I THINK THAT, UM, I, I BELIEVE MR. ESTONIA MAY EVEN BE PRESENTING ON THE PARKING LOT PROJECT AT THE NEXT MEETING. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD TO GO. 
          UM, BUT PLEASE REACH OUT TO MY OFFICE SO WE CAN TALK FURTHER ABOUT WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN A PAYROLL PRESENTATION WITH, UH, WITH EBC. 
          UM, IT'S, UH, IT'S CERTAINLY AN IMPORTANT PROJECT, UM, AND I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE BEST USE OF OUR WORK SESSION TIME, UH, AND THAT PERHAPS TARA RINALDI YOURSELF AND ME COULD, COULD MOVE TO, TO DISCUSS THAT PRIOR TO A WORK SESSION. 
          UM, SENIOR CENTER, THIS IS, THIS HAS BEEN AN ISSUE FOR, FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. 
          UM, AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE ISSUES THAT IMPACT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO FOCUS ON THE FACTS. 
          YOU CAN TALK TO PEOPLE WHO CAN SHARE WHAT THEY THINK MAY HAVE HAPPENED IN A MEETING OR A PHONE CALL. 
          UH, BUT IF WE'RE GONNA INFORM OUR DECISIONS AND IF WE'RE GONNA REPRESENT TO THE PUBLIC WHAT HAPPENED, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE 
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ACCUSATIONS ARE, ARE GROUNDED IN FACTS. 
          SO LET ME SHARE WITH YOU THE FACTS OF WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE SENIOR CENTER DEAL. 
          I TOOK OFFICE JANUARY 1ST, 2022. 
          I WAS APPROACHED BY, UH, THEN, UH, RECREATION DIRECTOR MARTY DEKE AND JOE WENZEL, UH, AND THEY HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THE LEASE. 
          NOW, WHEN I HAD READ THE LEASE, THE LEASE APPEARED TO BE, THE LEASE AGREEMENT APPEARED TO BE A 20 YEAR AGREEMENT, WHICH GAVE THE TOWN OF HAMBURG THE OPTION TO PURCHASE THAT BUILDING AND PROPERTY FOR $1. 
          WHY WOULD THE TOWN BE IN THE LEASE LIKE THAT? THAT SEEMS VERY FAVORABLE TO THE TOWN. 
          WELL, THE DISTRICT HAD BUILT A BUILDING, UH, AND HAD A TENANT WITH THE BOARD OF COOPERATIVE EDUCATIONAL SERVICES. 
          SHORTLY AFTER THEY BUILT THE BUILDING, BOCES PULLED OUT OF THE BUILDING, WHICH LEFT THE DISTRICT WITH AN EMPTY BUILDING, AND, UH, NO WAY TO, TO PAY TO, TO HEAT IT, TO COOL IT, TO MAINTAIN IT. 
          SO THEY WERE LOOKING FOR A TENANT. 
          THE TOWN BOARD AT THE TIME, UH, WAS IN NEED OF A SENIOR AND COMMUNITY CENTER TO HOUSE OUR PROGRAMS. UH, THEN, UH, SUPERVISOR WALTERS, UH, APPROACHED THE SUPERINTENDENT AT THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN MAKE SOMETHING WORK. 
          THEY WERE ABLE TO, UH, HAMMER OUT A LEASE AGREEMENT, WHICH WAS A 20 YEAR TERM. 
          HOWEVER, NEW YORK STATE EDUCATION LAW DOES NOT ALLOW SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO LEASE PROPERTY FOR MORE THAN 10 YEARS WITHOUT THEIR EXPLICIT GROUP. 
          SO MY SPECULATION IS THAT THE TOWN AT THE TIME, AND THE DISTRICT AGREED TO THIS 20 YEAR LEASE. 
          BUT AT THE 10 YEAR MARK, THE DISTRICT WAS REQUIRED TO DO ONE OF TWO THINGS. 
          THEY WERE REQUIRED TO EITHER ASK THE STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION FOR A 10 YEAR EXTENSION, OR HOLD A PUBLIC REFERENDUM TO SEE IF THE VOTERS OF THE FRONTIER SCHOOL DISTRICT WANTED TO CONTINUE THE LEASE FOR ANOTHER 10 YEARS. 
          THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DECIDE WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT EVENTUALLY APPROACHED ME IN MY FIRST YEAR OF OFFICE AND, AND SAID THAT THEY BELIEVE THEY CAN GET THE BUILDING BACK AFTER 10 YEARS. 
          AND I DISAGREED, WHICH, YOU KNOW, UNDER, IF IT'S, IT'S PERFECTLY FINE TO TO DISAGREE, THE TOWN'S BEST INTERESTS WERE TO KEEP THE BUILDING AND THEN BUY IT FOR A DOLLAR. 
          AND THE NEWS, HOWEVER, THE DISTRICT, OF COURSE, SAW IT DIFFERENTLY. 
          SO THE DISTRICT OPTED TO PETITION THE BOARD OF EDUCATION, THE NEW YORK STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION, TO ALLOW THEM TO EXTEND THE LEASE. 
          THE NEW YORK STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION IS REQUIRED TO ASK A DISTRICT IF THERE WAS NO EDUCATIONAL PURPOSE. 
          THE DISTRICT TOLD US THAT THEY WERE GOING TO TELL THE STATE BOARD OF ED THAT THEY DID HAVE AN EDUCATIONAL PURPOSE. 
          THE STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION IS NOT ABLE TO ALLOW A DISTRICT TO LEASE PROPERTY IF THERE IS AN EDUCATIONAL PURPOSE FOR THE BUILDING. 
          SO THIS WAS NOT A PERSONALITY CONFLICT. 
          THIS WAS SIMPLY THE DISTRICT TRYING TO MAXIMIZE THEIR SPACE. 
          THEY HAVE A NEED, THEY HAVE AN EDUCATIONAL NEED, AND THEY'RE HOSTING THE BIG PICTURE PROGRAM, WHICH IS AN ALTERNATIVE EDUCATION PROGRAM, UH, TO REALLY HELP STUDENTS SUCCEED. 
          UH, THEY HAVE BEEN TEMPORARILY HOUSED AT ECC SOUTH, AND THAT PROGRAM'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO EXPAND. 
          SO THAT IS THE PURPOSE AND REASON FOR THE FRONTIER SCHOOL DISTRICT TO TAKE BACK THEIR BUILDING. 
          THE STATE EDUCATION DEPARTMENT RULED IN THEIR FAVOR, AND THERE'S VERY LITTLE THAT WE CAN, WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT. 
          UM, CERTAINLY ANY TOWN BOARD MEMBER WOULD BE WELCOME TO REACH OUT TO THE FRONTIER SCHOOL BOARD OR TO SUPERINTENDENT SWI ATTACK TO TRY AND CHANGE THEIR MINDS. 
          WE MET RECENTLY WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND THEY OUTLINED THEIR PLANS TO START TO TAKE OVER PART OF THAT BUILDING. 
          UM, AND THEY'RE GONNA BE SOME, DOING SOME STAGING WORK AS EARLY AS I, IS IT JULY 1ST? I KNOW IT'S BEFORE THAT. 
          FEBRUARY 15TH. 
          FEBRUARY 15TH, THANK YOU. 
          SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE, UH, DISTRICT STAFF, PERSONNEL, AS WELL AS THEIR CONTRACTORS KIND OF SCOPING OUT SOME OF THE ROOMS, UH, ON THE PROPERTY. 
          AND THEN IN JULY 1ST, UM, THEY'RE GONNA START TO TAKE OVER ACTUAL PORTIONS OF THE SENIOR CENTER. 
          SO WE WILL STILL SHARE SOME SPACE IN THE GYMNASIUM AS WELL AS THE, THE CAFETERIA. 
          UM, UH, BUT WE HAVE SOME BIG QUESTION MARKS ON, UH, SOME AREAS LIKE THE, THE FITNESS CENTER. 
          UM, SO, UH, WE ARE MAKING PLANS. 
          WE'RE TALKING TO 
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SOME POTENTIAL NEW HOSTS, UH, SOME POTENTIAL NEW PROPERTIES FOR A NEW SENIOR CENTER. 
          UM, AND WE HAVE A GREAT TEAM WORKING ON THIS. 
          THE TOWN DEPARTMENT OF, UH, YOUTH RECREATION AND SENIOR SERVICES HAS BEEN FLEXIBLE AND NIMBLE, UH, SINCE ITS INCEPTION. 
          THOSE OFFICES FOR ALL OF THOSE PROGRAMS WERE ORIGINALLY RIGHT HERE IN THE BASEMENT OF TOWN HALL. 
          THEY EXPANDED TO THE NIKE BASE, THEY EXPANDED TO THE PEOPLE, INCORPORATED PROPERTY OFF OF SOULS ROAD, AND THEN EVENTUALLY INTO THE HOME THAT WE HAVE NOW. 
          SO, THERE'S NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO FIND APP AN APPROPRIATE HOME FOR OUR PROGRAMMING. 
          UH, IT'S GONNA TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF WORK, UH, BUT AS I SAID, WE HAVE A GOOD TEAM WORKING ON THAT. 
          UM, AND THEN FINALLY, UH, I JUST WANT TO ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF MY COLLEAGUES AND THE PUBLIC, UH, TO, UH, THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT WORK IN OUR, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, THIS PAST FRIDAY, THERE WAS AN OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING OFF OF MCKINLEY PARKWAY. 
          UM, AND THAT IS CERTAINLY A LAST RESORT FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND HAS, UH, IMPLICATIONS, UH, ON, ON EVERYBODY. 
          CERTAINLY NOTHING, UH, THAT ANYBODY WOULD TAKE LIGHTLY. 
          I NOT ONLY COMMEND THE OFFICERS THAT WERE INVOLVED, UM, AND MY, MY THOUGHTS GO OUT TO THEM, UH, THEIR FAMILIES AND, AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, THAT IS GONNA TAKE THAT SITUATION SERIOUSLY AND MAKE SURE THAT THOSE FOLKS HAVE THE RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED TO GET THROUGH ISSUES LIKE THIS. 
          IT ALSO WAS A MOMENT OF GRATITUDE, UH, TO HAVE OUR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH TECHNICIAN, UH, WHO WORKS, UH, WITH OUR OFFICERS WHO IS SKILLED IN, UH, TRAUMATIC RESPONSE, UH, TO, TO WORK WITH OUR OFFICERS, UH, THROUGH THIS VERY DIFFICULT TIME. 
          AND I WANT TO THANK CHIEF DIAZ AS WELL AS HIS LEADERSHIP TEAM FOR KEEPING MYSELF AND THE TOWN BOARD INFORMED EVERY STEP ALONG THE WAY WHEN WE HAVE THESE SITUATIONS HAPPEN. 
          UM, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE TRANSPARENT AND QUICK WITH INFORMATION. 
          UH, AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS DONE THAT, SHARED THAT IN PARTI THAT INFORMATION, NOT ONLY, UH, UH, IN A QUICK FASHION, UH, AND BUT ALSO A TRANSPARENT AND RESPONSIBLE WAY WHEN THESE, UH, WHEN THERE'S AN OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING, UH, THERE'S MANDATORY INVESTIGATIONS. 
          UM, AND, UH, THE NEW YORK STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL IS NOW DOING THEIR INVESTIGATION. 
          AND THE LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT, HAMBURG, AS WELL AS SOME OTHER POLICE AGENCIES, ARE DOING AN ADDITIONAL, UH, INVESTIGATION. 
          THESE INVESTIGATIONS ARE HAPPENING, UH, PAR ON A PARALLEL TRACK, UH, AND, AND IN A COLLABORATIVE WAY. 
          UM, SO, UH, THIS IS, THIS IS JUST A STATUS QUO FOR, UH, ISSUES LIKE THIS. 
          AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE PRESS CONFERENCE TOMORROW AFTERNOON, CHIEF. 
          UM, I WOULD, UH, OFFER A MOTION TO ADJOURN. 
          OH, WAIT, I'M SORRY. 
          THERE'S ONE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO SHARE WITH TO BOARD MEMBERS. 
          UH, WE DID GET SOME GOOD NEWS THIS WEEK. 
          I KNOW THAT, UH, OUR LAST BOARD MEETING, WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, SOME, SOME LABOR ISSUES, SOME GRIEVANCE GRIEVANCES, WHICH ARE GONNA HAPPEN IN, IN ANY, UM, COLLECTIVE BARGAINING ENVIRONMENT. 
          UM, SO, UH, LAST MEETING WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE PREVIOUS, PREVIOUS GRIEVANCES, THE AMOUNT OF GRIEVANCES, THE TYPE OF GRIEVANCES THAT HEMRICK SUN HAS, FOILED ALL THE GRIEVANCES AND RESPONSE TO THOSE GRIEVANCES. 
          SO I ANTICIPATE REPORTING, UH, FROM, FROM THE HAMBURG SUN. 
          UH, I'VE ALSO, UH, SENT THOSE, THOSE SAME FILES TO, TO COUNCIL MEMBER COZI, WHO HAD MADE SOME REMARKS, UH, AND HAD SOME, SOME QUESTIONS, UH, ABOUT, ABOUT THE, THE GRIEVANCES, THE AMOUNT. 
          UM, BUT WE DID HEAR TODAY, UH, FROM THE PUBLIC EMPLOYMENT RELATIONS BOARD, UH, IN A MATTER OF ARBITRATION, UH, BETWEEN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG AND THE CIVIL SERVICE EMPLOYEES ASSOCIATION, INCORPORATED LOCAL 1000 AFSCME, A-F-L-C-I-O, TOWN OF HAMBURG BLUE COLLAR UNIT. 
          AND IN THIS INSTANCE, UH, WE HAD AN EMPLOYEE WHO BELIEVED HE WAS ENTITLED TO VACATION TIME JUST IMMEDIATELY BEFORE HIS, UH, RETIREMENT. 
          UH, AND OUR PERSONNEL DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS OUR HUMAN RESOURCES CONSULTANT, UH, REVIEWED THE CONTRACT AND DETERMINED THAT THAT WASN'T THE CASE. 
          UH, AND OF COURSE, UH, CSCA TOOK ISSUE WITH THAT. 
          UH, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO RESOLVE THAT GRIEVANCE, BUT IT DID GO TO ARBITRATION, AND THE ARBITRATOR WAS ABLE TO FIND IN THE TOWN'S FAVOR. 
          UM, SO I'M, I'M THANKFUL THAT WE DO HAVE THESE MECHANISMS TO MAKE A FINAL DETERMINATION ON THESE ISSUES. 
          AND I WOULD LIKE TO APPLAUD THE WORK OF FOLKS, UH, THAT PUT THEIR TIME AND EFFORT ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ISSUE INTO THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE. 
          IT GIVES US SOME GUIDANCE MOVING 
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FORWARD AND SETTLES THE MATTER, UH, MOVING FORWARD. 
          SO AGAIN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. 
          OH, SURE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? A AYE. 
          OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS CARRIED.
* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.