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OF THE HAMBURG TOWN WAR, PLEASE JOIN ME IN STANDING THE PLEDGE OF THE PLANET BY THE UNITED STATES AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT'S MANAGED. 
          ONE 18 UNDER GOD INVIS WITH LIBERTY JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          OKAY, THREE ITEMS ON THE WORK SESSION AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING. 
          FIRST UP IS, UH, CHIEF DENNIS ON THE BODY CAMERAS UPDATE. 
          YES, TAKE. 
          GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. 
          SO I JUST WANT TO, UH, GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE AND THEN AN OVERVIEW AS TO OUR, UH, EARNING BODY CAMERAS AND WHERE WE ARE TODAY. 
          SO IN MARCH OF 2021, WE EXECUTIVE ORDER 2 0 3 REQUIRED POLICE DEPARTMENTS TO COME UP WITH THEIR POLICE REFORM EVIDENCE. 
          AND IN MARCH OF 21, AND NOW AARON PUT OUT THEIR REFORM SUGGESTIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS, ONE OF WHICH WAS, UH, BODY CAMERAS FOR THE DEPARTMENT. 
          SO I WAS NOT THE CHIEF IN 2021, BUT I WAS THE CHIEF IN AUGUST OF 2022, I WAS APPOINTED. 
          AND IN 2023 WE APPLIED FOR AND RECEIVED A GRANT FOR 124,000. 
          TODAY WE'RE PUTTING IN A RESOLUTION, THE CONTRACT WITH AXON AND IMPLEMENT A PROGRAM. 
          SO I GAVE YOU OUR QUOTE FROM AN AXON AND ALSO A COPY OF OUR BODY CAMERA POLICY THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO, UH, INSTITUTE. 
          SO AXON IS ON STATE BID. 
          WE ARE LOOKING TO ENTER INTO A 10 YEAR CONTRACT AND BY ENTERING INTO A 10 YEAR CONTRACT, IT'S GONNA SAY TAX PERIOD, ABOUT $28,000 PER YEAR. 
          UM, WE OBVIOUSLY CAN USE OUR $124,000 GRANT OF MONEY FOR OUR FIRST INSTALLMENT, WHICH IS $117,710 CENTS IN OUR 20 24 11. 
          WE ALSO HAVE ALLOCATED $150,000 TOWARDS, UH, THE BODY ERRORS. 
          SO WE'VE BEEN GOING ON FOR MONTHS TO TRY TO COME UP ONE WITH A VENDOR TO, TO COME UP WITH A POLICY THAT WILL SATISFY OUR NEEDS AND EXTENSIVELY LOOKING AT DIFFERENT COMPANIES. 
          UH, WE ARRIVED AT ACCIDENT 
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FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS. 
          ONE STATE-OF-THE-ART EQUIPMENT, WHEN WE GET OUR BODY CAMERAS FROM 'EM, IT'S GOING TO BE THEIR LATEST BODY CAMERA, AUTO, AUTO THEON FOUR FOR, UM, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT STORAGE AND AMAZON USES EVIDENCE.COM, WHICH MANY OF THE OTHER AGENCIES, INCLUDING THE DISTRICT'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, IS USING EVIDENCE.COM. 
          AND THAT WOULD BE FOR OUR STORAGE AND MAINTENANCE NEEDS. 
          UH, ALSO THE WARRANTY THAT'S ALSO ON THE BACK PAGE OF THE CONTRACT, WHAT THEY REFERRED TO AS TAP, WHICH IS THE TECHNOLOGY INSURANCE COMPANY. 
          SO EVERYTHING WAS COVERED EVERY TWO AND A HALF YEARS. 
          WE RECEIVED NEW, UH, BODY CAMERAS AND THEN ALSO ALL THEIR MAINTENANCE STORAGE IS ALSO WARRANTED THROUGH THAT PROGRAM. 
          UH, ORIGINALLY WHEN WE TALKED WITH 'EM, OUR FIRST QUOTE, WE WERE CLOSE TO ONE 50,000 A YEAR, BUT WE, UM, AFTER DISCUSSING IT WITH, WITH THE STAFF, UM, GOT RID OF A FEW THINGS AND TOOK $8,000 OFF OF OUR, UH, ANNUAL BILL. 
          AND THAT'S HOW WE ARRIVED AT $142,000 AMOUNT. 
          WE INCLUDED, UH, THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, THE PBA, AND IT, UM, AS WE WERE DISCUSSING VARIOUS ASPECTS OF ABUSING TAX TIME, UM, IN OUR AREA, EVERY DEPARTMENT EXCEPT ONE, UH, USES EXXON. 
          AND FROM MY, UM, UNDERSTANDING IT'S JUST US AND THE CITY LIKE MILANA AS FAR AS LEGAL DEPARTMENTS THAT DON'T HAVE, I, AS FAR AS OUR DEPARTMENTS GO IN THE AREA, IF THE RESOLUTION OF PASSED TONIGHT, THE CAMERAS WILL BE DELIVERED APRIL 15TH. 
          AXON DOES PROVIDE TRAINING AS PART OF THE PACKAGE. 
          AND THEN THROUGH THEIR EFFORTS AND ALSO OUR EFFORTS AND OUR TRAINING DIVISION, WE WILL BE LOOKING AT MAY 15TH AS AN IMPLEMENTATION DATE FOR THE CAMERAS TO BE AFFECTED IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          ANY MARTHA, SEE, UM, LIKE THE FORFEITURE MONEY FROM BANKS, CAN WE UTILIZE SOME OF THAT TOWARD THIS OR CAN WE LOSE SOME OF THAT TOWARD TRAINING? I WHO ASSET FORFEITURE COULD BE USED. 
          UM, BUT IF UNLESS WE HAVE TO BUDGET, YOU KNOW. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT IF YOU'RE WE'RE BUDGETING ITEM, IT CAN'T TAKE PLACE OF A BUDGETED ITEM. 
          SO MAYBE FOR THE PURCHASE OF THE EQUIPMENT, BUT AS FAR AS I THINK AUTOMATING IT ON A YEARLY BASIS PROBABLY DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH TO DO THAT NIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE, UM, UNIONS WE HAVE DISCUSSED WITH, UH, PDA PRESIDENT CRAWFORD, ALONG WITH WHEN WE WERE DOING THE POLICY AND TWO PDA MEMBERS IN THERE, SO WE GAVE 'EM OUR DRAFT, THEY CAME IN, WE, UH, ADJUSTED A FEW THINGS AND MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S NOT GONNA BE A PROBLEM. 
          SO YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT THE, UM, THE UNIONS WOULD BE, UM, SOME SOMEWHAT INTERESTED OR THEY'RE ON BOARD WITH THIS VERY INTERESTED. 
          VERY, AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE WERE SURVEY ON, UM, CAPTAIN GOING FOR ADVANCE DEGREE. 
          HIS THESIS BODY DEPARTMENT DID TAKE THAT. 
          AND I BELIEVE, UH, I THINK IT WAS 80 SOME PERCENT ARE IN COMPLETE FAVOR FOR BODY CAMERAS. 
          SO I THINK AS, AS A BODY, IT'S NOT GONNA BE AN ISSUE. 
          NOW, UM, WOULD IT BE, UM, WOULD MANAGERS WEAR THEM OR IS IT JUST PATROL OFFICERS? IT WOULD BE THE ROAD PATROLS WILL INCLUDE THE LIEUTENANTS WHO ARE OUR FIRST LINE SUPERVISORS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, SO WHAT ABOUT DETECTIVES OR OTHER OFFICERS? WE ARE GONNA HAVE, UH, TWO OR THREE EXTRA CAMERAS FOR THAT SITUATION. 
          SO THE DETECTIVE KNEW THAT WE WERE GOING OUT AND WE'RE GOING TO BE INTERACTING WITH PUBLIC, OR PERHAPS HE WORK A SHIFT ON THE ROAD, THEN YOU WOULD BE REQUIRED TO WEAR THEM. 
          DO THERE, ARE THERE ANY, UM, CAR CAMERAS OR IS IT JUST SIMPLY ON THE PERSON? SIMPLY ON THE PERSON. 
          OKAY. 
          I KNOW SOME DEPARTMENTS HAVE CAMERAS AND WITH THEIR CARS AND WHEN THEY COME IN, THEY'LL BE DOWNLOADED INSTANTLY. 
          WAS THAT SOMETHING THAT WAS EXPLORED OR TOO EXPENSIVE OR, I BELIEVE TOO EXPENSIVE PLUS A BODY CAMERA CAPTURES . 
          I KNOW MOST OF MANY, I MEAN, I THINK YOU MIGHT BE RIGHT OR PROBABLY ARE RIGHT. 
          MANY OF THE POLICE OFFICERS, I DO TALK TO FIND MY BROTHER'S NFTA POLICEMEN, UH, THAT, UM, IT PROTECTS THEM AS WELL WITH THEIR INTERACTIONS WITH, WITH THE PUBLIC. 
          DO YOU FIND THAT TO BE THE CASE WITH THIS DEPARTMENT? ABSOLUTELY. 
          I WOULD ABSOLUTELY 100% AGREE THAT, UH, IF SOMEONE DOES LODGE A COMPLAINT THAT, UH, WITH BODY 
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CAMERAS, MOST OF THE TIME IT AIRS ON THE SIDE OF THE, THE OFFICER. 
          AND SO AXON, I MEAN, I USE THAT IN MY, IN MY PRACTICE TO ERIE COUNTY DA'S OFFICE. 
          UM, UTILIZES THAT, AS YOU INDICATED. 
          HOW WOULD THIS WORK WHEN YOU'RE SHARING, UH, BODY CAMERA DISCOVERY? DOES IT GO TO THE JUSTICE COURT DA, OR HOW DOES, HOW DOES THAT LIAISON RELATIONSHIP WORK? SO THE EVIDENCE THAT ON HOUSES,  DISCOVERY MATERIAL, VIDEOS, REPORTS, WHATEVER ELSE, THEN THE DA'S OFFICE IS PROVIDED WITH A LINK TO THEIR PARTICULAR CASE THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON AND THEN THEY CAN PULL THAT MATERIAL. 
          AND I JUST PERUSE THIS POLICY BEFORE, BUT IT SAYS SIGNIFICANT INTERACTIONS WITH THE PUBLIC. 
          AND WHAT, WHAT WOULD YOU DEFINE AS SIGNIFICANT INTERACTION? BECAUSE I KNOW SOME DEPARTMENTS ARE ALWAYS ON, EVERY POLICY IS DIFFERENT AND THAT'S OBVIOUSLY UP TO YOU. 
          BUT NO, ANY, ANY INTERACTION WITH THE PUBLIC AS FAR AS A PATROLMAN OR FIRST LINE SUPERVISOR INTERACTING WITH THE PUBLIC THERE BODY CAMERA WOULD BE UNTIL THE EVENT WAS OVER. 
          THANKS FOR ANSWERING THOSE QUESTIONS. 
          SHE, YOU, WELL, WHAT, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN WORKING WITH JENNIFER ROBERTSON FROM IT. 
          WHAT ISSUES WERE ENCOUNTERED THERE OR WHAT DID YOU HAVE TO DISCUSS? WHAT WAS RESOLVED? JUST SO WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING GOING FORWARD OF WHAT IT IMPLICATIONS THERE MIGHT BE OR, UM, IMPLICATIONS FOR THE BUDGET IN THE IT DEPARTMENT. 
          SO WITH THE NEW DISCOVERY REQUIREMENTS, THE TOWN SERVER, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, HAS BECOME FILLED WITH A LOT OF THAT STUFF WITH EVIDENCE.COM, GOING TO EVIDENCE.COM. 
          A LOT OF THAT MATERIAL WILL BE TAKEN OFF THE TOWN SERVER AND ANYTHING MOVING FORWARD IS OBVIOUSLY GONNA GO TO EVIDENCE.COM. 
          SO THAT'S YOUR FREE UP, IT'S BASED FOR THE TOWN'S SERVER. 
          UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF GONNA GET BOGGED DOWN BY ALL THE, THE POLICE REQUIREMENTS. 
          DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT? I WAS JUST, LOOK, I WAS LOOKING NOT TO BE RUDE BECAUSE I HAVE SOME OF, I HAVE THE LINKS RIGHT, RIGHT HERE. 
          UM, THIS IS A CASE, THIS IS ALL PUBLIC STUFF THAT I'M, I'M I'M SHOWING YOU, BUT IT'S AN EVIDENCE.COM FOR ERIE COUNTY DA'S OFFICE. 
          THEY TYPICALLY SEND US, UM, THE LINK AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE A PASSWORD THAT EXPIRES AT A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME. 
          IS THAT WHAT THIS IS DOING? SO IT'S NOT PUTTING ON THE SERVER FOR THE TOWN, IT'S THE THIRD PARTY THAT, THAT HANDLES THIS CORRECT. 
          EVIDENCE.COM WOULD BE WHERE IT WAS ALL HOUSED AND THEN THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY, DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WOULD  WHERE THEY CAN PULL JUST WHAT, WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. 
          BY THE SAME TOKEN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIRD PARTY STORAGE. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE GET VIDEOS FROM WALMART, BEST BUY, WEGMAN'S, ALL THAT VIDEO WAS GOING ON THE TOWN SERVER. 
          THAT'S WHY IT WAS SO POPULATED. 
          BUT NOW THOSE, UH, RETAIL STORES WILL ALSO BE PROVIDED WITH A LINK AND THEN THEY CAN JUST DOWNLOAD THAT VIDEO RIGHT TO EVIDENCE.COM. 
          SO WE WON'T EVEN HAVE TO GO BACK, GET A FLASH DRIVE, GET A DISC LIKE CLOUD BASED SOFTWARE IS MY UNDERSTANDING RIGHT, IS THAT ARE THE COST OF WHAT? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT WOULDN'T BURDEN OUR IT DEPARTMENT ANYMORE THEN. 
          CORRECT. 
          IF ANYTHING IT'S GONNA FREE UP. 
          SO PAY FOR THE TOWN, HOW LONG IS THE CONTRACT FOR THAT YOU NEGOTIATED? 10 YEARS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND HOW WHEN'S IT GOING TO, WHAT'S IT GONNA COST YEAR ONE, YEAR THREE YEAR FIVE, YEAR SEVEN. 
          IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT CONTRACT UP THERE, 117,000 IS THE FIRST YEAR MM-HMM . 
          AND AFTER THAT, THE NEXT NINE YEARS IS AT 1 42, 1 42, 14 73 IS, UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT I SEE THAT, BUT WHAT'S THIS, IS THERE A CAP ON UM, HOW MANY CAMERAS THEY HAVE OR IS IT IF THE DEPARTMENT GROWS OR WOULD, WELL WE'RE, RIGHT NOW WE'RE WEARING 55 CAMERAS, SO THAT IS ABSOLUTELY GONNA TAKE CARE OF ROAD PATROL LIEUTENANTS AND THEN WITH A FEW EXTRA FLOOR DETECTIVES OR SAY CAPTAIN WOULD NEED ONE. 
          DO YOU SEE ANYTHING, ANYTHING HERE OR WITH THIS CONTRACT THAT WOULD HAVE A POSITIVE IMPLICATION FOR OTHER AREAS OF YOUR BUDGET? ARE YOU ANTICIPATING THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE ARE THERE ANY OFFSETS OR, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, YOU FORESEE THERE BEING, UM, GRANTS OR OTHER SOURCES, OTHER PLACES OUT THERE THAT ARE FUNDING ASPECTS OF THIS ON A YEAR TO YEAR BASIS? I'M SURE YOU'VE PROBABLY ALREADY EXPLORED THAT, BUT FOR  COMPLETELY RIGHT. 
          SIMPLY ON THIS FIRST ONE, I HAVE NOT LOOKED, BUT I'M SURE WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. 
          THERE MIGHT BE. 
          AND DO YOU, AND SO THE FIRST PART OF THE QUESTION, DO YOU THINK THIS WILL POSITIVELY AFFECT ANY OTHER ASPECT OF YOUR BUDGET OR ARE YOU ANTICIPATING THAT OR, OR NOT? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE, THE WORKINGS ARE, HOW THIS AFFECTS THE, THE REST OF THE OPERATIONS? 
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I DON'T BELIEVE SO. 
          UM, BUT IF, IF THERE ARE ANY SUGGESTIONS, I CERTAINLY ENTERTAIN, BUT OFF OFF THE CUFF I WOULD SAY, OOPS. 
          ARE THERE ANY COMPETITORS? I HAVEN'T SEEN THEM. 
          UH, 'CAUSE THIS IS WHAT YOUR OFFICE USES. 
          THERE ARE, UH, MOTOROLA HAS, I THINK WEST SIDE HAS MOTOROLA, BUT AGAIN WITH THE EVIDENCE, COMP EVIDENCE.COM PACKAGED IN WITH THIS, THIS IS PROBABLY BOTH COMPREHENSIVE COMPANY. 
          UM, I HAVE SPOKEN TO OTHER AGENCIES THAT ARE USING 'EM AND THEY'RE ALL VERY SATISFIED. 
          THE, UM, SO IT SAID ONE TWENTY, A HUNDRED TWENTY FOUR, I'M DIRECTING YOUR ATTENTION TO THE RESOLUTION. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THERE'S 124,000 IN GRANT MONEY RECEIVED IN 2023. 
          AND IT SAYS LIKE, AS YOU SAID, THE FIRST YEAR IS 117, THEN IT GOES TO 1 42. 
          DO YOU ANTICIPATE GETTING GRANTS EACH YEAR? IS THIS THE ONE AND DONE GRANT? I CAN'T ANSWER THAT, BUT I WOULD LOOK TO SEE THAT THERE ARE ONLY FUTURE, YOU KNOW, GRANTS OFFSET THESE COSTS. 
          SOMEBODY WANTS TO FOIL THE CAPTAIN'S, UH, INFORMATION ON HIS CAMERA OVER THERE. 
          'CAUSE HE PICKS ON ME ALL THE TIME. 
          AND DO WE GO TO THE TOWN OR DO WE GO TO, UM, THE COMPANY TO GET IT FOILED? NO, IT WOULD BE THE POUND. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, THAT'S IN THE POWER. 
          WELL THERE'S, THERE'S THE ONE GUY THAT GOES AROUND TO ALL THE POLICE STATIONS AND YOU KNOW, WANTS FOIL REPORTS AND RIGHT. 
          SO JUST AS IF, UH, SOMEONE WANTED A REPORT OR SOMEONE WANTS, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE FILE, RIGHT. 
          LIKE THAT'S WHAT SOMEONE WANTED THE VIDEO TO THE SAME PROCESS AND THEN, UH, WE WOULD GET THAT AND WE WOULD USE THE OIL REGULATIONS SEVEN. 
          JUST . 
          WELL, HE WOULDN'T HAVE ONE UNLESS HE'S ON THE, ON THE WELL. 
          RIGHT. 
          COURSE. 
          RIGHT. 
          GEE, DENNIS, JUST A QUESTION. 
          I WAS READING THE TAP AGREEMENT. 
          UM, WHAT HAPPENS IF A CAMERA SAY HAS A MALFUNCTION? UM, HOW LONG IS IT GONNA TAKE US TO GET IT REPLACED? I KNOW YOU SAID WE HAVE PROBABLY THREE TO FOUR, IT SOUNDED LIKE EXTRAS AND RESERVES, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A PLAN IN PLACE THAT, HAVE YOU TALKED TO ANY OTHER AGENCIES THAT HAVE EXPERIENCE OF GETTING, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, FAIRLY SUPPORT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND AGAIN, THAT PROBABLY WOULD'VE A FEW EXTRA SO THEY CAN IMMEDIATELY REPLACE IT AND THEN PAN TIME WOULD CERTAINLY REPLACE THAT PROCESS. 
          LITTLE EASIER THAN A CAR WARRANTY, HUH? ABSOLUTELY. 
          OKAY. 
          ONE OTHER THOUGHT I, IT JUST OCCURRED TO ME THAT WAS SITTING HERE RELATIVE TO THIS. 
          NOW WE'RE LOOKING, AND I REMEMBER THIS ONE, THEY DID WHEN FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS SPEND MONEY ON THE COURTHOUSE OF THE FUTURE, SO YOU PUT THIS IN PLACE AND YOU'RE GONNA SAY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE COURTHOUSE OF THE FUTURE. 
          WE'LL MARK EXHIBITS AND DO ALL THIS AND THAT. 
          BUT THEN ONCE TECHNO TECHNOLOGY IS IMPROVING, UM, IS THERE A WAY TO DO A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT? LET'S SAY YOU'RE BUYING THESE CAMERAS OR, UM, OR DO THEY UPDATE THE CAMERAS OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? CORRECT. 
          SO THERE IS THE FIVE YEAR PROGRAM AS WELL, BUT THE 10 YEAR DEAL, UM, LIKE I SAID IN THE BEGINNING, SAVES THE TAXPAYERS ABOUT $28,000 A YEAR. 
          SO EVERY TWO AND A HALF YEARS AS TECHNOLOGY IMPROVES, AXON WILL IMPROVE THE CAMERA. 
          SO THEY'RE ON A CAMERA FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS TO REPLACE THOSE OLD CAMERAS STAYING ON THE CUTTING EDGE. 
          THAT'S PART OF THAT TAP AGREEMENT I THOUGHT, RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          YES. 
          THANKS. 
          THANKS CHIEF. 
          THANK YOU ALL. 
          NEXT UP WE HAVE, UH, MR. TON ON BUILDING PERMIT FEE TABLE CHANGES EVERYBODY  TO UH, DO TO TALK ABOUT ANY THE REVISIONS THAT WE KIND OF WENT OVER. 
          I CIRCULATED AN EMAIL WITH, UH, THE TABLES AND SOME OF THE SLIGHT ADJUSTMENTS WE MADE TO 'EM AND SOME OF THE UPDATES AS FAR AS BRINGING OUR  TABLE THIS SPEED. 
          SO JUST WANTED TO HAVE THE BOARD A CHANCE IF THEY HAD REVIEW ANY QUESTIONS WE CAN PRESS, WE CAN'T HEAR. 
          WE'RE TALKING ABOUT B TABLES. 
          UM, GIVEN THE BOARD OPPORTUNITY TO SET ANY OF THE REVISIONS, WE MADE, UH, ONLY A HANDFUL OF LINES ON OUR STANDARD, UM, PERMIT FEE WAS WITH ADJUSTED MAINLY. 
          AND COMMERCIAL ONES JUST BRING UP, UH, TO COVER THE COSTS THAT ARE  OFFICERS GOING 
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OUT AND DOING THE JOB. 
          YOU KNOW, WE'RE CHARTING ONE FEE THAT DOESN'T COVER GUYS MAKING MULTIPLE TRIPS OUT. 
          SO WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THE FEE FEE PAID COVERS THE FEE AND THEN, UH, THE ELECTRICAL ONE, WE DID HAVE SOME, UH, SOLAR BUILDING AND UH, FOR INVERTERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO WELL OVER, WELL OVER, YEAH, WE NOT DONE FOR I THINK 2011 WAS LAST TIME ACTUALLY HAD A REVISION TABLE. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, AND USUALLY THE BIG QUESTION IS, UM, DID WE LOOK AT OTHER PENALTIES AND YOU, WE DID IT, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT OTHER BUSINESSES, YOU SEE THEM UNDER WATER, YOU DON'T WANNA ALLOW ANY BUSINESS AFTER THAT. 
          SO YOU REALLY GONNA LOOK AND SEE HOW MUCH TIME, WHAT YOUR GUYS UP MAKE VERSUS YOU, EVERYBODY ELSE. 
          AND THEN HOW MUCH TIME FOR BEING INVOLVED EVERYBODY CAN STARTS THESE SPARES. 
          SO WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WRS ARE BEING, UH, COVERED AND ADDED BY THESE THANK YOU TO YOU AND TO JEFF SRI. 
          I KNOW YOU BOTH PUT IN A LOT OF TIME TO UM, YOU KNOW, ADDRESS THIS SINCE IT HASN'T BEEN. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE APPRECIATE, APPRECIATE THE OTHER WORK WITH SOUND THIS AND UM, YEAH, IT, IT TAKES A LOT. 
          THERE'S A LOT TO THAT GOES INTO IT. 
          AND  QUESTIONS. 
          THANKS KEN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, NEXT UP WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT INDUSTRIAL REZONINGS. 
          SO GUYS HAVE A BACK THERE. 
          IT SHOULD BE, THE FIRST THING SHOULD BE COPY OF COPIES FROM COUNTY. 
          THERE SHOULD BE TWO MAPS IN THERE. 
          AND THEN THERE SHOULD BE A COPY OF BUILDING DISTRICT ON THE BILL, PAPER AND MAP. 
          UM, SO SAID WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INEZ RESULTS. 
          SAY, UM, LAST TIME THAT WE CAME FROM YOU GUYS WAS ON, ON JANUARY 22ND AND AT THAT MEETING, UM, WE AUTHORIZED US TO DO A QUARTERLY REVIEW. 
          UM, WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE SENT IT TO A LIST OF AGENCIES INCLUDING THE DC AND YOUR COUNTY. 
          UM, AND THEN LATE FEBRUARY GOT COMMON BACK FROM YOUR COUNTY ON THE TWO , WHICH ARE ACCORDING TO THAT, UM, LIKE I SAID, TWO COPIES OF THOSE CONDUCT THAT THEY PROVIDED FOR YOU. 
          UM, AND I WANT TO START WITH THE FIRST MAP. 
          SO THE FIRST MAP WAS SAY THE RAILROAD A IN  ROAD, UM, WATER PINK AND GREEN IN THE MAP. 
          SO IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THAT MAP, YOU LOOK AT THE COPY OF THE , UM, ESSENTIALLY FOR THIS INDUSTRIAL, UM, THE COUNTY ONLY COMMENT THAT THEY HAD WAS THAT THEY BILL THAT THE COUNTY HAS A PRETTY LOW SUPPLY INDUSTRIAL OWN LANES. 
          UM, AND THEY PUT THIS STANDARD FOR MOST TOWN WHENEVER YOU'RE  INDUSTRIAL. 
          UM, THEY NOTE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT COUNTY BE ABLE TO BE COMPETITIVE WHEN IT COMES TO INDUSTRIAL ZONE, UH, ACCOUNT. 
          UM, SO THAT WAS REALLY THEIR ONLY MAIN COMMENT THEY HAVE BEFORE YOU OR CURRENTLY PROPOSING IS ON THE WEST SIDE. 
          UM, TWO PROPERTIES OWNED BY MR. LER AND THEN A PROPERTY OWNED BY MR. BER WHO HE OWNED THE P TWO. 
          UM, RIGHT ON CURRENTLY ON THAT PROPERTY IS LIKE  AND SERVICES, THERE'S LIKE DOORS OR BOTH. 
          UM, AND WITHIN P TWO THEY THROUGH UM, THE SAME USED AND THEN ON THE SAME THAT ON EAST SIDE, UM, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE ARE THE PROPERTY BY THEIR  AND THEN ANOTHER PROPERTY OWNED BY, UM, IF THE  PROPERTY RIGHT NOW IS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, UM, AND PROPERTY IS A HEATING AND COOLING CONTRACTOR SERVICE LOOKS. 
          UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE PROPOSING FOR  PROPERTIES TO GO TO NC, WHICH IS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL. 
          UM, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, YOU CAN HAVE  HOMES, SO THAT COVERS MR. CAPITAL AND THEN YOU CAN HAVE OFFICE FEES, UM, AND CONTRACTORS COVER. 
          UM, SO I SAID THERE ARE ISSUES FROM THE COUNTY ON THIS  WE WANNA SERVE WITH FOR YOU GUYS TO SEE IF THERE ANY ISSUE FOR IT. 
          UM, IF NOT, WE WOULD PROCEED UM, WITH HIS ARMY ZONING FOR THESE IONS. 
          SO I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS ON HIS RESORT WITH THE PROXIMITY OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS. 
          AND I THINK IS THERE ANY BROWNFIELDS MEDIATION OR ANYTHING THAT HAS TO BE, UH, NO. 
          RIGHT NOW THIS PROPERTY IS NOT WITHIN THE BROWN. 
          THANKS FOR THE, THESE WERE THE RE SO FOR THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS, THESE WERE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME OUT OF, UH, OUT OF THE COMPLAINT. 
          THEY WERE SUGGESTED DURING THAT PROCESS THEY'VE EMBEDDED IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT WAYS AND ULTIMATELY WENT TO THE COUNTY. 
          AND THESE ARE THE COUNTY COMMENTS, CORRECT? SO THE MEMBERS, STAKEHOLDERS, UM, WE HAD A PUBLIC HEARING LOG, SO 
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HAVE NOTIFIED AND OBVIOUSLY , UH, HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING THAT WILL HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR ABOUT THIS AGAIN . 
          OKAY, SO WE WILL REVIEW THAT ONE. 
          THE NEXT ONE IS ONE COMPLICATED. 
          SO THE NEXT HALF, UM, WE'LL SAY LAKEVIEW ROAD AND MEMORIAL DRIVE. 
          UM, SO WE PULL UP THAT MAP AND WE PULL UP THE CORRESPONDING COMMENTS FROM THE COUNTY ON THAT ONE. 
          I HAD A NUMBER OF CONCERNS WITH THIS . 
          THE FIRST BEING THAT, UM, LOOK AT ON THAT MAP PARCEL 1 9 5 5 0 8 SLASH 13 SLASH SIX, UM, AND THE FOLLOWING PARCEL 1, 9 5 AT 11 SLASH THREE SLASH FOUR AND 1 9 5 AT 11 SLASH THREE SLASH 10, ALL THREE OF THOSE PARCELS ARE ACTUALLY THE RAILROAD. 
          SO THERE ISN'T ANY BUILDING ON THOSE PARCELS, THOSE PARCELS LITERALLY RAILROAD. 
          THEIR CONCERN IS, UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A PROPOSED TO BE ZONE TO CQ. 
          UM, THEIR CONCERN WAS HAVING THE RAILROAD BEING ZONED AT ALL WOULD KIND OF TAKE AWAY FROM THE TIME BEING ABLE TO SAY RIGHT NOW HAVE THE RAILROAD AND THAT THERE ARE BOTH OPERATING  ON THAT RAILROAD. 
          THEY HAVE CONCERNS THAT THE GOAL C RIGHT NOW RAILROAD IS NOT PREVENT. 
          UM, SO ECONOMY AND MYSELF ALONG WITH UM, A MEMBERS OF DEPART TALKING ABOUT IT. 
          AND WHAT WE PROPOS BEFORE YOU IS THAT YOU DON'T ZONE THOSE PARTS THAT I DIDN'T HIT AT ALL. 
          WE UN ZONE. 
          SO IT WOULDN'T, IT WOULDN'T RED, IT WOULDN'T HAVE ANY ON IT WOULD BE UN ZONE, UM, GOING THE RAILROAD ANYWAYS DOESN'T REALLY HAVE ANY FUNCTION, UM, BECAUSE IT IS A RAILROAD SUPERSEDES WE HAD ANYWAYS, BUT LEAVING UN ZONE AND KNOW THAT SHOULDN'T, THAT SHOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE. 
          UM, SO THAT'S THE EVENT, THAT'S THE PROPOSAL THAT I'M BRINGING BEFORE YOU FOR THOSE THREE PARCEL. 
          AND THE OTHER COMMENTS THAT THE COUNTY HAVE FOR THIS SPECIFIC  IS THAT YOU HAVE CONCERN FOR ONE PARCEL THAT YOU SEE IS 1 9 5 11 SLASH THREE SLASH 3.22. 
          UM, AND ALL THAT IS CALLED JAS PROPERTY ONLY, LLC. 
          UM, RIGHT NOW WITH THAT PART CURRENTLY IS IS THE AUTO BILL, BUT THE RAILROAD HAS SPURD TO ACTUALLY GO ONTO THE PROPERTY. 
          UM, AND LIKE I SAID, THE HAS CONCERN BECAUSE DID HAVE RAILROAD USE, UM, THEY HAVE CONCERN THAT  RIGHT NOW THERE ARE NO RAILROAD DO. 
          UM, SO WHY COME OUT WITH AN OUTRIGHT DETERMINATION OR RECOMMENDATION THEY HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT . 
          UM, SO WE KIND OF SAT DOWN WITH IT AND WE THOUGHT ABOUT IT. 
          UM, AND WE'RE KIND OF GOING WITH, WE LEAVE THAT PARCEL AS IS, UH, WE  AND THINGS TO GO ON WITH ALL OF THE OTHER, UH, PROPOSAL. 
          SO LOOK, EVERYTHING THAT HAS  ON THE BACK, PROPOSED C2 AND THEN IN THE TOP RIGHT OF THE MAP THERE, A RESIDENTIAL HOME, UM, OWNED BY MR. NEWMAN AND OUR PROPOSAL R ONE, UM, JUST THE LINE OF THE HOME THAT OUR  UM, YOU THAT R ONE. 
          UM, AND ANOTHER THING WE WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION IS THE LAST PART OF YOUR PACKAGE THAT HAS THE MAP DELIVERY AND IT HAS A PHONE CODE. 
          THE, SO WHAT THIS MAP SHOWS IS IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, EVERYTHING THAT'S IN RED, SO RIGHT HERE ON THE MAP THAT'S RED IS IN THE TOWN. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY GOING ON THIS MAP RIGHT HERE. 
          EVERYTHING ELSE IS CURRENTLY WHAT'S GOING GOES TO HAMBURG AND IN PURPLE, UH, RIGHT NEXT TO WHERE HE, THE TOWN IS A NEW HAM CALLED MISUSE REDEVELOPMENT. 
          UM, BUT WE, THIS WAS IN COURT BECAUSE WHILE UNDERSTAND THAT'S CONCERNS WERE NOT WANTING, WE SAW SOMETHING  RIGHT NEXT DOOR, THE ADJACENT MUNICIPALITY IN IN THE VILLAGE, THEY REONE THESE SPECIFIC ONES DEVELOP. 
          AND WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH THAT DISTRICT IS IT ALLOWS FOR ADAPTIVE RE BUILDING, PROMOTE WALKABILITY SUPPORT TO HOUSING, BUT IT STILL ALLOWS FOR LIGHTING, UM, ALLY HIGH LEVEL TRAFFIC NOISE OVER THEIR LIGHTS. 
          SO DEFINITELY IN OTHER WORDS ALLOWED AND THE DISTRICT, BUT THERE'S GOING ALLOW FOR MORE MORE CREATIVE, UM, . 
          UM, SO WE USE THIS AS KIND OF A FOUNDATION FOR WHY, YOU KNOW, STILL  
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 AND LIKE I SAID, WE WILL UM, OBVIOUSLY TECHNICAL HELP IT. 
          UM, BUT IT IS NOT SOMETHING, NOT A RECOMMENDATION, YOU KNOW, BUT WANTED TO, TO YOUR ATTENTION, UM, YOU KNOW, AND PROPOS, UM, YOU FEEL THAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS YOU JUST OUTLINED FOR US IN THE SECOND MAP, UM, UH, ACCOMMODATES THE COMMENTS FROM THE COUNTY IN A SATISFACTORY WAY. 
          I THINK DEFINITELY KEEPING THE  THE FINAL ZERO, UM, WOULD DEFINITELY SUFF LEAVING THE ABSOLUTE ZONE THAT HAS A  UNS ZONE . 
          BUT THAT SAYING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING THE ATTEMPT TO, WE'RE NOT GOING AT ALL. 
          UM, AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE GOING C2 UM, I THINK ADVISOR, I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD REASON FOR WHY, UM, ALL THE  THAT ARE IN SCHOOL, THEY WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO DO WHAT THEY DOING. 
          THEY WOULD BE ABLE PERFORMING WOULD BE AN ISSUE THAT THEY'RE DOWN, THEY'D BE ABLE TO DO AND EXPAND C2 WITHOUT HAVING ANY ISSUE. 
          AND IT'S A GOOD COMPLIMENT TO WHAT YOU JUST WENT OVER AS FAR AS THE UM, ZONING AREA. 
          CORRECT. 
          I THINK THAT'S WISE TO, YOU KNOW, KEEP IT COHESIVE. 
          SO IF THERE ARE NO OTHER I YOU WILL  UM, WE KIND OF WRAP IT UP AND THEN WE WILL FINISH AN EMAIL BEFORE WE GO WITH FURTHER. 
          AND THE SECOND ONE WOULD ALSO NEED TO GO BACK TO A PUBLIC HEARING. 
          CORRECT? PUBLIC HEARING, THE PART WE HAVE PROOF, UH, WE CAN ABOUT BEING KNOWN THAT GOING TO R ONE, PROBABLY PUBLIC HEARING, RIGHT AGAIN FOR THAT ONE. 
          JUST, UM, BECAUSE IN THE PUBLIC, PREVIOUS PUBLIC HEARING, UM, ONE, SO PROBABLY HEARING FOR AGAIN, BUT WE HEARING THANK YOU. 
          I I WOULD JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT UH, MR. ROGERS HAS DISTRIBUTED AN AMENDED RESOLUTION NUMBER 22, THE BRIARWOOD PUD AMENDMENT. 
          YOU SHOULD ALL HAVE RECEIVED THAT, UH, IN YOUR PACKETS FOR, ON YOUR DESKS THIS EVENING. 
          THEN UM, CAN HE JUST REVIEW THAT AMENDMENT QUICKLY WITH US? SURE. 
          SO LET THE SUPERVISOR MENTIONED WE HAVE A LIVE, UH, RESOLUTION FOR, UM, CALLING AMENDMENT FOR THE PD FOR THE REQUIREMENT. 
          UM, ALL WE DID WAS PREVIOUSLY THE RESOLUTION. 
          WE HAD CUSTODY NUMBER, UM, FOR THE PROPERTY, BUT SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID FOR THE PEOPLE INC PROJECT, WHICH REV RELI, UM, WE DID HAVE TO CALL OUT THE  NUMBERS FOR IT, UM, CITY AND OUR DEPARTMENT WAS GOING THROUGH AND THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION THAT IT WAS DIFFICULT TO, UM, GO THROUGH THE, THE FILING OR THE UM, ORING PD. 
          SO IT'LL BE SIMILAR ON ALL PARTS IF YOU JUST MOVE THAT NUMBERS AND CAN JUST SAY HOW ACRES WE'RE AMENDING AND THEN JUST SAY WE'RE, SO THANK YOU JEFF, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, IF WE PASS THIS TONIGHT, IS IT AGREEING TO THE CHANGES THAT THEY PRESENTED OR IT'S JUST AGREEING TO SENDING THEM TO ZONING BOARD TO HAVE THEIR THEM DO WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO? SO IF YOU RESEARCH THE RESOLUTION, WHAT YOU'RE AGREEING TO IS THAT THEY WILL NOT GO BACK TO THE PLANNING BOARD LIKE THEY ORIGINALLY INTENDED. 
          SO IF YOU DON'T AGREE, THEN THEY'LL JUST GO TO FOR THE LOWER. 
          IF YOU DO AGREE WITH THE RESOLUTION THAT BEFORE YOU, THEY WILL ACTUALLY COME TO THE TALENT BOARD BECAUSE WE'RE TREATING REZONING. 
          SO THE D WE'RE LIKE A REONE. 
          SO THE APP BOARD WILL BE LEADING AGENCY. 
          SO THE ZONING BOARD, WE HAVE PLENTY OUR IN PRIVATE, SO IT'LL, THE PROCESS WILL BE YOU APPROVE THIS, UM, THE APPLICANT WILL FILE A REZONING APPLICATION, UM, THE TOWN COURT WILL START A SEEKER, WE'LL SEND IT TO THE BOARD FOR RECOMMENDATION, WE'LL SEND IT BACK TO YOU. 
          IF YOU APPROVE THE ZONING, IT'LL GO BACK SIMPLY LOOKING FORWARD OR SENDING. 
          SO I THINK THERE'S CONCERNS WITH THE, UH, LAKE SHORE FIRE DEPARTMENT ON THIS. 
          AND THEN WITH THE HAVING A TWO FOUR STORY BUILDINGS, I MEAN WE, I MEAN FOR FIRE SAFETY MAY NEED LIKE A HOOK AND LADDER FOR SOME BUILDING THAT SIZE. 
          YEAH. 
          MEANING, YEAH, THAT'LL BE SOLVED FOR THOSE SPECIFIC CONCERNS. 
          THAT'LL BE SOMETHING THAT'LL BE ADDRESSED FROM A C PERSPECTIVE. 
          WE SEND IT FROM THE TOP BOARD AND THEN THE RESULT DOES GET APPROVED FROM A SECOND  STANDPOINT, THE PLANNING BOARD WILL ALSO LOOK AT THAT AS WELL. 
          IS 
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THAT SOMETHING TYPICALLY THOUGH, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN, UM, ADDRESSED IF THE ZONING BOARD, SO NOW IT'LL BE ADDRESSED IF THE PLANNING BOARDS YOU'RE SAYING, UM, FROM MY . 
          SO WHEN WE AMENDED THE PROJECT, THE  UH, THE TOWN BOARD WAS THE AGENCY, UM, THEY STARTED TO SEE PROCESS THEY SENT TO FOR THEY SENT BACK TO THE TOWN BOARD. 
          UM, AND THIS REQUIRING THE NEWS VARIANT SO ABLE GET INVOLVED. 
          BUT BECAUSE WE'RE JUST ATTENDING THE P JUST TO READ THE  NO VARIANCE REQUESTS, RIGHT? THERE'S NO VARIANCE REQUEST. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS, UH, LEGAL QUESTIONS AROUND, UH, OUR BOND FINANCING AS RECOMMENDED BY MR. FERRELL. 
          AND CAN WE ALSO ADD ON TO REVIEW PERSONNEL MATTERS AND QUESTIONS REGARDING COLLECTIVE BARGAINING SINCE IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF TIME NOW. 
          MIGHT BE . 
          YES, I WOULD, I WOULD SECOND THAT MOTION BY, UH, COUNCIL FERRELL, I'D ALSO, UH, SUPERVISOR OVER, YES. 
          COULD I ASK, I SORRY, I I MEANT TO SEND AN EMAIL EARLIER, BUT AS THEY CAME UP BRIEFLY, THEY WAS REPORT SIGNED A COUPLE LITIGATION MATTERS. 
          SO I HAVE ACTUALLY THREE TO VERY BRIEF, FAIRLY BRIEF REPORT, BUT I JUST NEED TO REPORT ON THOSE. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? CARRIED. 
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UH, CALL TON SUPERVISOR HO RESIDENT COUNCIL MEMBER ALBY HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ZA HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER HUMBERG PRESENT. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER EZ PRESENT ROY. 
          FOLKS, UH, WE GOT A LOT OF FOLKS HERE, UM, AND UH, WE HAVE A VERY FULL AGENDA. 
          JUST WANT TO GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW ABOUT HOW THESE MEETINGS OPERATE. 
          FIRST WE'LL GO THROUGH THE AGENDA ITEMS AS THEY'RE LISTED 
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ON THE AGENDA. 
          IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD ON AN AGENDA ITEM, UH, PLEASE MAKE IT KNOWN BY YOUR STANDING OR RAISING YOUR HAND. 
          GET OUR ATTENTION IN SOME WAY AND WE WOULD ASK IF YOU'RE ABLE TO COME TO THE FRONT OF THE ROOM, STAND AT THE PODIUM AND SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN HEAR THEM. 
          ONCE WE GET THROUGH THE AGENDA ITEMS, UH, THEN WE WILL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC EXPRESSION AT THAT POINT. 
          UM, JUST LIKE DURING THE AGENDA ITEMS, UH, WE'VE MADE IT KNOWN THAT YOU LIKELY BE HEARD, WE ASK THAT YOU ARE TOWN, TOWN RULES. 
          UH, ASK YOU TO LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES. 
          WE KEEP LOSE TRACK OF THOSE THREE MINUTES. 
          I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE HEADS UP. 
          ONE OF THOSE THREE MINUTES ARE TONY . 
          WE ASK YOU TO WRAP UP YOUR COMMENTS AT THAT POINT. 
          AFTER PUBLIC EXPRESSION, YOU'LL HAVE A REPORT FROM DEPARTMENT HEADS. 
          UM, AND THEN WE WILL GO ON TO REPORTS FROM THE BOARD. 
          WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, UM, WE DO HAVE A, UH, PROMOTION IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, THAT, UH, IS NUMBER THREE 18. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO START THERE BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE CANDIDATE FOR PROMOTION IS HERE AS WELL AS WITH SOME FAMILY MEMBERS. 
          UH, AMY CAN GET THAT ONE OUT WAY AND THEN MOVE ITEMS 3, 3, 3, 4, 3, 5 TO THE TOP JUST SO WE CAN GET THE KIDS OUTTA HERE. 
          AND MEANTIME FOR YEAH, IT'S A GOOD IDEA. 
          WE'D LOOKING TO MOVE, UH, ITEMS 30 33, UH, AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY 34, 35, UH, RIGHT BEHIND THE, UH, THE LEASE, THE GARDENS. 
          JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY FOLKS HERE IN RED, WHITE, AND BLUE. 
          AND WE KNOW THAT ON THE WAY, UH, TO, WELL YOU GUYS, YOU ALL PROBABLY HAVE SO MUCH HOMEWORK TO DO TOO. 
          YOU GOTTA GET HOME VERY IMPRESSED. 
          NOT THAT MUCH GOOD CHOICES. 
          SO I'M GONNA START WITH, UH, NUMBER 18, WHEREAS LIEUTENANT JOHN BAKER, WHO'S CURRENTLY ON THE POLICE CAPTAIN SECOND LINE SUPERVISORY PROMOTIONAL LIST NUMBER 72 DASH 1 79, THEREFORE BEING RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVES THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE CHIEF OF POLICE IN PROMOTING LIEUTENANT JOHN BAKER TO THE POSITION OF POLICE CAPTAIN EFFECTIVE MARCH 26TH, 2024 AND VIA FURTHER RESOLVE, THE SALARY IS 61 78 PER HOUR AND FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN B 31 20 DOWN 100. 
          SO MOVED SECOND. 
          MAY I FOR A UNANIMOUS SECOND. 
          A UNANIMOUS SECOND HAS BEEN OFFERED ALL FAVOR, AYE AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ALL OPPOSED, CARRIED LIKE TO BY CHIEF DI NUNEZ AND OFFICER BAKER TO THE FRONT ROOM. 
          AND, UH, OUR  POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS JUST, UH, RECEIVED A NEW ACCREDITATION STATUS, UH, WHICH HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING. 
          UH, AND THAT'S ALL HAPPENED IN LEADERSHIP OF CHIEF , WHO HAS MADE SURE THAT WE HAVE QUALIFIED INDIVIDUALS IN THE RIGHT POSITION IN OUR TOWN BECAUSE THE NEW REORGANIZATION DEPARTMENT AND, UH, REALLY SPEAKS TO THE WORK THAT CHIEF AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE BEEN DOING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          TOLD BAKER WAS MADE FORWARD TODAY, HE SAID MR. I HAD NO IDEA, BUT JOHN DANIELS IN 2006, HE WAS AN EXCELLENT PATROLMAN. 
          HE WAS PROMOTED TO LIEUTENANT, DID AN EXCELLENT JOB, UH, AND THE LIEUTENANT AND, UH, JUST PATH HERE. 
          LIEUTENANT BAKER AND OFFICER  WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN, UH, GETTING OUR DEPARTMENT ACCREDITED. 
          SO IT REALLY SHOWS HIS ORGANIZATIONAL ABILITIES, HIS DEFENSE, THE DETAIL, AND I THINK HIM MOVING INTO THIS CAPTAIN'S POSITION IS GONNA MAKE THINGS A LOT EASIER FOR THE DEPARTMENT TO TRANSITION INTO GETTING A BODY CAMERA. 
          SO INSTALLATIONS, CONGRATULATIONS 
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YOU, LET'S GONNA BRING US TO, UH, ITEM NUMBER 33, WHICH IS A TABLE LETTER RESOLVE. 
          THE AMBER TOWN BOARD IS HEREBY REMOVED FROM THE ENTIRE, FROM THE TABLE. 
          ITEM NUMBER SIX ON THE AGENDA FROM THE TOWN BOARD BEING HELD MARCH 11TH, 2024 ENTITLED BOND RESOLUTION NIKE FACILITY AS FOLLOWS, BOND RESOLUTION OF THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, ERIE COUNTY, NEW YORK, AUTHORIZING CONSTRUCTIONS OF RENOVATIONS AND ALTERATIONS TO THE TOWN OF HAMBURG ICE SPRING, STATING THE MAXIMUM ESTIMATED COST THEREOF IS $7,500,000 APPROPRIATING SET AMOUNT, THEREFORE, AND AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF UP TO $7,500,000 IN SERIAL BONDS OF THE TOWN TO FINANCE SET APPROPRIATION. 
          AND I THINK, CAN WE SKIP OVER ALL THE WHERE AS PAUSED? BUT THE, UH, THE SECTIONS OF THE STATE HAS LISTED YOUR PREVIOUS READ, WHEREAS THE TOWN OF WAR, THE TOWN OF AMBER ERIE COUNTY, NEW YORK PROPOSES TO AUTHORIZE ISSUANCE OF 7 MILLION TO $500,000 IN SERIAL MOUNTAINS OF THE TOWN OF FINANCE, CONSTRUCTION, AND RENOVATIONS AND OPERATIONS DOWN AMBER  LOCATED AT UPON NINE MAIN LAKEVIEW ROAD. 
          AMBER NEW YORK WAS 4 0 7 5 AND AN AN ESTIMATED MAXIMUM COST FOR $7,500,000. 
          AND WHEREAS THE BOARD DETERMINED THAT THE PROJECT SHOULD INSTITUTE A TYPE TWO ACTION UNDER THE NEW YORK STATE ENVIRONMENTAL ORDER ACT AND THE REGULATIONS PROMULGATED THERE UNDER AND THERE BOARD WILL FURTHER AN ACTION NEED BE TAKEN BY THE BOARD UNDER A SENIOR AS A PRECONDITION OF THE DOCUMENT OF THIS RESOLUTION. 
          AND WHERE THE BOARD NOW WISHES THE APPROPRIATE FUNDS FOR THE PROJECT AND AUTHORIZE ISSUANCE FOR ACCOUNT SERIAL BONDS AND ANTICIPATED WITHOUT ANTICIPATION NOTES TO BE ISSUED IN FINANCE IF OR MENTIONED PACIFIC OBJECT FOR PURPOSE. 
          NOW THEREFORE, BEING RESOLVED BY THE FLOOR COUNTY BY FAVORABLE VOTE. 
          TWO THIRD OF ALL MEMBERS OF SUCH BODY AS AS FOLLOWS, ALL ACTIONS LIFTED AND PREVIOUS TO GRANTED MARCH 11 MEETING. 
          SO LUKE SECOND, WE HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER . 
          THIS IS NOW THE POINT OF THE MEETING WHERE WE CAN, UH, DISCUSS THE PROJECT AND THE RESOLUTION BEFORE US, DEPENDING YOUR MEMBERS FROM THE COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD. 
          NOW IS IN TIME. 
          WE HAVE VENTILATOR FRONT. 
          WE ASK YOU TO STEP UP TO THE PODIUM. 
          YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO TILT THAT MIC DOWN. 
          JUST YOU CAN GO KEEP HERE. 
          PLEASE HELP SAVE OUR, WE AND MY TEAM MAY EVER GIRLS  IN TRANSITION. 
          I LOVE MY TEAM. 
          YOU COME SO HARD. 
          BEING ABLE TO PRACTICE AND TRAINING AND EVERY ARENA WAS A CRITICAL HARD SUCCESS. 
          I LOVE HOCKEY AND I LOVE BEING A HOCKEY. 
          I'VE MET SO MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE EXCITED EITHER THAT THEY WERE HOK WHEN THEY WERE MY AGE OR THAT I KNOW SOMEONE THAT IS OVER THE HOP. 
          I NEVER REALIZED HOW IMPORTANT THE HAMMER HOPS ARE FOR SO MANY PEOPLE PLAYING HOCKEY INSTEAD A LOT TO ME AND MY TEAM. 
          AND WHEN I HEARD THAT THERE MIGHT BE A TIME THAT OUR RING MIGHT NOT BE OPEN, I WAS CRUSHED. 
          BEING A HAMMERCOCK IS PART OF ME AND I REALLY DON'T WANT TO GIVE THAT UP. 
          SO PLEASE HELP SAVE THE HAMMER TOWN, MISS ARENA, SO ME AND MANY OTHER KIDS CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE A PLACE WHERE WE BELONG AND CONTINUE TO PLAY THE SPORT THAT WE LOVE. 
          PLEASE LET THE HOS CONTINUE TO, CAN YOU, CAN YOU DO ME A FAVOR? CAN YOU GIVE YOU A SPEECH TO MR. KY WHEN YOU'RE DONE? IT'LL MAKE HER LIFE SO MUCH EASIER. 
          THANK YOU DEAR. 
          THAT WAS VERY BRAVE OF YOU. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          AND WE HAVE A LIST OF FOLKS, UH, THAT ARE INTERESTED IN SPEAKING. 
          UH, THIS IS SPECIFIC TO THE  IN THE PROJECT. 
          DIANA, PAT, ARE YOU HERE? I'M NOT SPEAKING ON THANK YOU. 
          AT THE END. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THAT BRINGS US TO MARSHA LENNON. 
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HI, MY NAME IS MARSHA LENNON. 
          AM I GONNA BE HIM? JUST TILT IT OFF. 
          OKAY. 
          MARSHA LEN. 
          UM, I'M A HAM RESIDENT AND HAVE PARTICIPATED IN THE SENIOR CENTER FOR OVER SEVEN PLUS YEARS. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO ASK WHAT THE PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE ON THE SENIOR FACILITY. 
          RUMOR HAS IT, THE MATTER HAS BEEN TABLED TO GET MORE INFORMATION. 
          UH, WEEKS HAVE GONE BY. 
          AND WHAT ARE THE RESULTS? UH, FOR THE SAKE OF THE SENIORS POPULATION WHO VOTED YOU INTO OFFICE, IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. 
          PUT YOUR DIFFERENCES ASIDE AND TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY TO US. 
          THIS ISN'T JUST A GYM. 
          DAVE RUSS HAS PRESENTED ALL THE STATISTICS ON THE COLLECTIVE USAGE OF THE SENIOR CENTER. 
          UH, FRONTIER STARTS CUTTING DOWN ON OUR SPACE APRIL AND APRIL. 
          UM, IT'S 90 DAYS AFTER THAT. 
          THEY WILL CUT IT COMPLETELY IN HALF. 
          UH, STEPS NEED TO BE TAKEN NOW TO RENOVATE AN EXISTING SPACE. 
          AS WE ARE BEING PUSHED OUT, WE HAVE LOST MANY SENIORS, UH, TO ORCHARD PARK BECAUSE THEY FEEL THEY'RE NOT SURE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A PLACE THAT THEY CAN EVEN GO TO ANYMORE. 
          UH, WE'RE HOPING WE DON'T NEED TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD CONTINUALLY BEGGING FOR HELP WITH THIS PROJECT. 
          IN CLOSING, I'D LIKE TO ASK EACH BOARD MEMBER, DO YOU CARE? PROVE IT. 
          THANK YOU, MS. I JUST THOUGHT SO. 
          CHIEF SPOKE HAVE, UM, AND AT THIS TIME I JUST WANNA SAY THAT WE ALL CONCERNED ABOUT THE SENIOR CENTER. 
          RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE A SENIOR CENTER IN, IN, IN PLANS. 
          WE ARE WORKING ON GETTING ONE WITH AT LEAST POSSIBLY WITH AN OPTION TO BUY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A FACILITY IN HAND. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, AND MY THOUGHTS WAS TO BORROW $2 MILLION FOR A FACILITY THAT WE DON'T HAVE YET. 
          UM, DIDN'T SEEM JUST QUITE RIGHT. 
          I MEAN, IT IS LIKE GOING TO THE BANK AND SAYING, HEY, I WANT TO BUILD A ROCK. 
          CAN YOU GIMME SOME MONEY? BUT I DON'T HAVE THE PROPERTY TO PUT IT ON. 
          SO THAT WAS MY REASONING FOR VOTE. 
          NO, I SHOULD THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE, BY THE WAY, IT'S IMPORTANT ESPECIALLY FOR CHILDREN TO SEE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS WORK AND WELCOME ALL YOUR, ALL YOUR COMMENTS AND CONCERNS. 
          UM, I KNOW, UM, MR. HO AND THE, MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS HAD, UH, WENT A LITTLE BIT OUT OF ORDER, BUT I HAVE A RESOLUTION, UM, RESOLUTION 14 REGARDING A COMMUNITY CENTER. 
          UH, AND YOU MENTIONED ORCHARD PARK. 
          I KNOW ORCHARD PARK RECENTLY BUILT A COMMUNITY CENTER. 
          UM, MY, MY PROPOSAL IS QUITE SIMPLE. 
          UM, THERE ARE THREE BOND RESOLUTIONS HERE BEFORE THE BOARD THAT ARE, UM, IN EXCESS OF $15 MILLION THAT WERE RAISED TAXES. 
          UM, AND THEY'RE ALL LEASE MAIL. 
          THE, THE SENIOR CENTER PROJECT RELATES TO LEASED PROPERTY. 
          UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE LEASE HASN'T EVEN BEEN EXECUTED. 
          SO AS MY COLLEAGUE, MR. COZA INDICATED, UM, IT WOULD BE PREMATURE TO SPEND $2 MILLION RENOVATING A PROPERTY WE DON'T OWN. 
          SO WHAT I PROPOSED, AND, AND I, AND I'VE RELEASED, UH, PUBLIC STATEMENTS ON THIS, IS A BOLD PROJECT, BOLD PROJECT THAT WOULD TAKE HAMBURG FORWARD. 
          I PROPOSED BUILDING A COMPREHENSIVE SENIOR CENTER AND DUAL ICE RINK COMPLEX. 
          I SEE THE HAMBURG HAWKS, I SEE 'EM SKATE AT LEISURE RINKS, AND I SEE THEM SKATE AT OTHER AREAS BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE ONE SHEET OF ICE. 
          SO THE PROPOSAL WHEN THIS CAME ABOUT AS FAR AS AN ARENA CAME BEFORE ME AND I WAS JUST ELECTED TO THE BOARD IN JANUARY. 
          I ASKED, I ASKED 'EM, I SAID, HOW MUCH FOR A SECOND SHEET OF ICE? HOW MUCH WOULD IT BE FOR A SECOND SHEET? AND I, I DIDN'T GET AN ANSWER FROM THE CONTRACTORS. 
          THEY SAID THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT PHASE. 
          BUT I BELIEVE IN, IN, IN BOLD, BOLD IDEAS. 
          WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY IF WE BUILD A COMPREHENSIVE COMMUNITY CENTER RIGHT HERE IN HAMBURG AT EXIT 57, WHERE WE COULD HAVE A FIELD HOUSE WHERE WE COULD HAVE CHILDREN PLAY BASKETBALL, THEY COULD PLAY LACROSSE, IT WOULD BE A COMPREHENSIVE CENTER WITH A TRACK. 
          WE COULD ATTRACT HOCKEY TEAMS. IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT LOGICALLY, LEISURE RINKS IS A PRIVATE ENTITY, PRIVATE ENTITY THAT CHARGES $250 AN HOUR. 
          SO IS HOLIDAY TWIN RINKS. 
          SO IS HOCKEY OUTLET, WHICH IS MORGAN MOVIE SABER LAND. 
          SO IS CROSSROADS ARENA. 
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THE HAMBURG HAWKS AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT USE THIS FACILITY, WHETHER IT'S FOR PUBLIC SKATING OR WHETHER IT'S FOR GREAT SKATE OR LEARN TO SKATE, DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ICE. 
          AND THERE'S A DEMAND IN THIS COMMUNITY. 
          WHEN I USED TO GO TO HAMPER ARENA, IT USED TO BE AN OUTDOOR RINK. 
          I CAN STILL HEAR, I CAN STILL HEAR THE FLAPPING OF, OF THE TARPS THAT WERE PUT UP. 
          SO TO PUT $8 MILLION IN A FACILITY THAT IS REALLY NOT DESIGNED TO BE AN INDOOR FACILITY, SEEMS TO ME TO BE A WASTE OF, OF MONEY. 
          AND WHAT I WANNA DO IS TAKE THE MONEY FOR THE $15 MILLION AND ALLOCATE IT GOING FORWARD TO BUILD SOMETHING COMPREHENSIVE IN A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP AND WORK TOGETHER WITH OTHER GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS, WORK TOGETHER WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO BUILD SOMETHING BOLD SO WE CAN HOST HOCKEY TOURNAMENTS SO WE CAN FILL UP THOSE HOTELS ON CAMP ROAD AND BRING BUSINESSES OR BRING MONEY TO THOSE BUSINESSES AND RESTAURANTS. 
          NOW, IN THE MEANTIME, AND I'VE TALKED TO MY COLLEAGUES ABOUT THIS, I, I LOOKED AT THOSE COMPRESSORS AND I THINK THEY'VE BEEN A BIT OF SCARE TACTICS. 
          I KNOW THEY'RE OLD, BUT I SUPPORT AS, AS A HOT, AS A HOCKEY PLAYER, AS A HOCKEY COACH, I SUPPORT THE BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          AND I'VE ASKED MR. TON AND I RECENTLY SEND OUR TOWN ENGINEER LETTER TOLD ME THERE'LL BE NO DELAYS IF WE FUND A COMPRESSOR, WHICH IS 50 YEARS OLD, AND BASIC IMPROVEMENTS TILL WE CAN THINK SOMETHING BIGGER. 
          NOW IF THAT DOESN'T WORK OUT WELL THEN YOU KNOW WHAT, THEN WE CAN ALWAYS EXPAND THE NIKE BASE. 
          BUT I THINK POUND OF HAMBURG NEEDS SOMETHING BOLD FOR OUR SENIORS, FOR OTHER SPORTS JUST BESIDES HOCKEY AND SKATING. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT I PROPOSE. 
          BUT I DO SUPPORT AN IMMEDIATE INVESTMENT IN THOSE COMPRESSORS BECAUSE I THINK YES, THEY ARE OLD. 
          THERE'S TWO OF 'EM, THERE'S BACKUPS. 
          UH, BUT I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE A PROBLEM AND I WANT THERE TO BE ICE FOR PEOPLE THAT WANNA USE IT, WHETHER IT'S FREE SKATE, WHETHER IT'S PUBLIC SKATE, AND THAT'S WHAT I SUPPORT. 
          BUT I WANT A LEANER, MORE COST EFFECTIVE MEASURE. 
          I LOOKED AT SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY HAVE IN THE MAIN AREA AND THEY'RE BASICALLY TAKING THE WOODEN BENCHES AND, AND THEY'RE MAKING 'EM WITH LIKE VINYL. 
          AND THAT DOESN'T MAKE FOR A BETTER ARENA OR A BETTER USE. 
          AND I DO SUPPORT SOME CONSTRUCTION OF A GIRL'S LOCKER ROOM LIKE THEY HAVE AT LEISURE RINGS. 
          I DO SUPPORT THAT, BUT I'M THINKING BIGGER AND BOLDER. 
          AND IF WE DON'T DREAM BIG, IF WE DON'T TEACH OUR KIDS HOW TO THINK BIGGER AND BETTER FOR THE FUTURE, THEN WHAT GOOD ARE, WHAT GOOD ARE WE? WE CAN'T DO THIS. 
          WE'RE THE TOWN THAT FRIENDSHIP BUILT AND IF MY COLLEAGUES ARE WILLING TO WORK TOGETHER WITH ME, I'M WILLING TO PUT AS MUCH WORK AS IT TAKES TO SEE THIS BOLD VISION FOR A DUAL RANK COMPLEX WITH A FIELD HOUSE FOR EVERYBODY IN THE FUTURE, FOR SENIOR CITIZENS, FOR ALL THE PEOPLE OF HAMBURG. 
          THAT'S MY COMMITMENT TO THE PEOPLE ON OUT OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURGERS. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE I STAND. 
          WE'RE GOING TO RETURN, IT ALL TOOK A MINUTE, BUT I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF THE NIKE BASE ICE BRAND. 
          IN 1997, THERE WAS A MEETING MUCH LIKE THIS, WHERE WE HAD FAMILIES THAT CAME TO THE TOWN BOARD BECAUSE THEY NEEDED $1.6 MILLION BECAUSE THE PIPING UNDERNEATH THE ICE HAD BROKE JEOPARDIZING THE HOCKEY SEASON. 
          THE TOWN BOARD HAD TO BE CONVINCED THEN TO COME UP WITH ONE $26 MILLION TO FIX THAT EQUIPMENT. 
          GOING INTO 20 10, 20 11, 20 12, OUR COMMUNITY FOR YEARS HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT THIS. 
          WE HAD MEETINGS WHERE THERE'S TWICE AS MANY PEOPLE AS ARE HERE TONIGHT WHO CAME OUT TO THE WAY IN ULTIMATELY THE TOWN BOARD AND THE COMMUNITY SAID NO. 
          IN THE WAKE OF THAT, THE TOWN OF HAMBURG SET OUT TO LOOK AT WHAT CAN WE DO IF THERE WAS NOT AN  IN THE COMMUNITY FOR A LARGE SCALE TWO RING PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, THEN WHAT CAN WE DO WITH WHAT WE HAVE? I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO SHARE THAT THIS IS NOT A SUPERVISOR PUBLICAN PROJECT. 
          THIS IS NOT A DEMOCRAT PROJECT. 
          THIS IS NOT A REPUBLICAN PROJECT. 
          THIS IS A PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN PUT FORTH BY THE COMMUNITY OF HAMBURG. 
          THIS IS A PROJECT THAT IS THREE YEARS IN THE MAKING. 
          THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WAS LED BY TOM COUNCIL MEMBER SEAN CONLEY, WHO MADE SURE THAT ALL THE STAKEHOLDER GROUPS HAD A SEAT AT THE TABLE TO LOOK AT WHAT WE WOULD LIKE IN THIS FACILITY. 
          NOW 
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ONCE WE PUT THAT WISHLIST TOGETHER, REMEMBER THIS WAS IN 20 20, 20 21, 20 22, A PERIOD OF GLOBAL PANDEMIC WITH RAPID INFLATION AND INCREASING CONSTRUCTION COSTS, COSTS AND UH, AND A LOT OF DELAYS. 
          WHEN I TOOK OFFICE IN 2022, IT WAS ESTIMATED THAT A FULL RENOVATION OF EVERYTHING THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTED AT THE NIKE BASE, WHEN COST ABOUT SEVEN OR $8 MILLION, INCLUDING THE REFRIGERATION EQUIPMENT, INCLUDING THE PIPES, THE DAMAGE, THE DOORS TO LOCKER OF ROOMS. ONCE WE, WE WENT TO DESIGN THOSE ESTIMATES ALL ROSE TO ABOUT $14 MILLION. 
          WE SCALED THE PROJECT BACK TO WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US TODAY, WHICH IS THE MODEST IMPROVEMENTS, MODEST BUT IMPORTANT IMPROVEMENTS SO THAT THE YOUNG WOMEN THAT BY NOT ONLY FOR AMBER, BUT THE , HAVE A PLACE TO CHANGE AND TAKE SHOWERS BEFORE AND AFTER THE HOCKEY GAMES. 
          THERE'S BEEN THREE YEARS OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. 
          WE'VE HAD CONSULTANTS AT THE NIKE BASE DURING PUBLIC SKATE, DURING HAWKS PRACTICES. 
          AND WE'VE ASKED YOU, WHAT DO YOU WANT? WE THEN TOOK THAT TO SEE WHAT WE THOUGHT WE COULD REALISTICALLY FOR. 
          AND IT'S NOT CHEAPER. 
          WE'RE LOOKING AT OVER $7 MILLION, WHICH WILL ENSURE THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT EQUIPMENT TO KEEP THE ICE CONSISTENT AND NOT MISS ANY HOCKEY SEASONS. 
          WE ALSO WANT TO, WHAT HAPPENED IN 1997 WHEN THE PING UNDERNEATH THE ICE MALFUNCTION AGAIN HAD TO BE REPLACED? WE WANT TO BE PROACTIVE ON THAT. 
          WE WANT THE AMENITIES THAT WERE OUTLINED. 
          IT'S NOT EVERYTHING THAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR, BUT I BELIEVE IT IS THE REASONABLE ASK OF THIS TOWN BOARD, A REASONABLE ASK OF THE TAXPAYERS IN TOWN OF HAMBURG TO APPROVE THIS $7.5 MILLION BOND. 
          I'M GONNA BE VOTING IN SUPPORT OF THIS BOND SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT HOCKEY STAYS IN HAMBURG TODAY AND TOMORROW AND NEXT WEEK AND NEXT SEASON. 
          CAN WE THINK BIG? ABSOLUTELY. 
          BUT WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK ON THESE ISSUES. 
          WE HAVE A GOOD PLAN AND A GOOD ARENA THAT SERVES A PURPOSE AND WE NEED TO SUPPORT THAT. 
          I'M JUST GONNA GET US RIGHT BACK TO PUBLIC COMMENT 'CAUSE I REALLY WANNA HEAR WHAT YOU ALL HAD CAME OUT TO SAY BEFORE ANY MORE OF US WEIGH IN BECAUSE YOU TOOK THE TIME TO BE HERE TONIGHT. 
          THAT TAKES US TO, UH, I BELIEVE IT'S JAMES WHITE. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          UM, FIRST THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME COME SPEAK TONIGHT. 
          UM, I'M NOT A RESIDENT OF HAMBURG. 
          WE USE THE RANK AS A NON-RESIDENT. 
          WE PAY THE NON-RESIDENT FEES. 
          I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO COME SPEAK TONIGHT DUE TO THE FACT THAT I HAVE A UNIQUE RELATIONSHIP WITH HOCKEY. 
          UM, I NEVER PLAYED HOCKEY. 
          I DID NOT GROW UP IN WESTERN NEW YORK. 
          I GREW UP IN PHILADELPHIA. 
          I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPERIENCE HOCKEY, UH, OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS, UH, TO THE POINT WHERE MY SON EVEN GOT TO PLAY WITH FRANK'S, UH, SOME SEVERAL YEARS AGO. 
          UM, TODAY WE PLAY, UH, FOR THE REGALS SET 18. 
          AND THE REASON WHY I FIND THIS UNIQUELY INTERESTING IS IT WAS US THIS PAST YEAR, UH, THAT LOST OUR RINK DUE TO MAINTENANCE. 
          WE HAD SEVERAL TEAMS FROM AROUND CANADA AND AROUND THIS AREA THAT REFUSED TO COME TO THE RINK BECAUSE OF THE POTENTIAL CO ISSUES. 
          FRANK, I BELIEVE IT WAS YOURSELF THAT WENT ON THE NEWS AND TALKED ABOUT THE HEALTH OF YOUR OWN CHILD. 
          VERY RESPECTFUL, UNDERSTOOD. 
          BUT IF WE WON'T DO THIS FOR THEM, IF WE WILL NOT INVEST THE MONEY IN THESE CHILDREN WHO WILL BE INVESTED IN TODAY, IT IS SEVEN AND A HALF MILLION. 
          TOMORROW WILL 10 MILLION. 
          WE HAVE TO DO MORE THAN THE KIDS. 
          SO 
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STUDENTS HERE, UM, LADIES DIRECTOR JOHN MCFALL. 
          I'M A VILLAGE RESPITE, UH, FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. 
          UH, I'M ALSO THE THE COACH OF THE HAMMER BOYS HOCKEY TEAM, OUR TEAM, AND BEEN A FOR THE LAST 16 YEARS. 
          I'VE BEEN A VOLUNTEER WITH THE OXFORD HOME ABOUT 26 YEARS. 
          I ALSO HAVE THE PLEASURE OF SERVING THE COMMUNITY ON THE, UH, RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD. 
          WE'VE HEARD THIS OVER AND OVER AND OVER, UH, FOR THE LAST 24 YEARS. 
          UM, I'M PROUD OF THE WORK THAT OUR RECREATION DEPARTMENT'S DONE IN THE PAST AND VERY EXCITED TO SEE THE THINGS THAT, UH, UH, JILL, UH, GORMAN KING AND HERNEY AND STAFF HAVE FOR US DOWN THE ROAD. 
          BUT I'M HERE TODAY TO ADDRESS THE, THE PRESSING NEEDS REALLY FOR THE TOWN ARENA. 
          UH, MR. HOLT, I THINK YOU SAID IT PERFECTLY THAT WE NEED TO MAKE THE UPGRADES AND AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT MR. ALKI AND YOUR TALK. 
          THAT YOU KNOW, THAT THOSE UPDATES NEED TO BE DONE. 
          AND I THINK WE NEED TO GO MORE THAN JUST THE, THAN JUST THE MACHINERY. 
          FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND IT, IT IS BANDAIDS AND DUCT TAPE RIGHT NOW. 
          WE DID GO DOWN BACK IN 97. 
          UH, THERE WAS A PROBLEM WITH THE POWER OUTAGE GETTING THINGS TO GO BACK UP. 
          IT WAS SCARY. 
          UH, WE HAD GAMES, UH, WITH HAMMER FRONTIER READY TO GO. 
          WE'RE ENJOYING OUR, OUR FIRST TIME EVER IN 16 YEARS, HAVING A FULL SLATE OF HOME GAMES FOR OUR KIDS, FOR HIGH SCHOOL KIDS TO PLAY AT THEIR HOME ALREADY. 
          WE ACTUALLY HAD HOME GAMES THAT, UH, OF AN AMHERST AT THE NORTHBOUND CENTER AGAINST SWEET HOME HIGH SCHOOL WHERE YOU STAND ON THE ROOF AND SEE SWEET HOME. 
          SO WE WANNA PLAY WITHIN, WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, BUT THE RINK DOES NEED THOSE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS FOR THAT SECOND PHASE. 
          WE NEED LOCKER ROOM FACILITIES. 
          I'VE HAD COACHES COME IN AND THEY LOVE THE ICE. 
          THE ICE IS FANTASTIC. 
          IT'S COLD AS EVER IN THAT RINK. 
          WE LOVE IT. 
          IT IS FAST. 
          THEY LOVE THE ICE, BUT THEY COMPLAIN ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE. 
          WE'VE GOT HIGH SCHOOL KIDS NEED TO WALK OUT OF THEIR LOCKER ROOMS WEARING TOWELS. 
          WE TRY TO MAKE 'EM A LITTLE BIT MORE MODEST, UM, WITH POTENTIALLY YOUNG KIDS AND, AND PARENTS AND MOMS COMING IN AFTER US ON OUR SATURDAY AFTERNOON GAME. 
          THEY HAVE TO JOIN EACH OTHER AFTER JUST COMPETING HARD AGAINST EACH OTHER IN THE SAME SHOWER AREAS. 
          THAT SHOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE SUPERVISED. 
          THEY, THEY NEED THAT PRIVACY. 
          AND NOW WITH THE GREAT INCREASE OF YOUNG LADIES PLAYING, IT IS AMAZING THAT RATE WAS BILLED OVER 50 YEARS AGO AND IT HASN'T CHANGED. 
          IT'S THE SAME ARENA I PLAYED IN BACK IN THE EARLY SEVENTIES WITH MY YOUTH HOCKEY IN THE EARLY EIGHTIES ON THAT GREAT MONEY NIGHT LEAGUE THAT WE HAD. 
          UM, WE NEED THOSE UPDATES SOON. 
          WE'VE HEARD IT BEFORE AND BEFORE AND BEFORE ABOUT THESE TAJ MAHAL TYPE PLACES. 
          I WOULD GLADLY NAME IT AFTER ALL FIVE OF YOU AS WE GET THAT DONE. 
          I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT. 
          I'M EXCITED TO HEAR THAT I WON'T BE COACHING ANYMORE 'CAUSE THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS TO GO. 
          WE'VE BEEN THERE, IT IS BEEN TALKED ABOUT ALREADY AND I, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT. 
          UM, SO I'M, I'M HERE. 
          I THINK JUST TO, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO THINK ABOUT THAT AND MAY THE INVESTMENT WITH WHAT WE HAVE. 
          YEAH, MAYBE WE'RE PASSING UP THE CHANCE FOR THAT TAJ MAHAL, BUT WE'VE PASSED THAT UP OVER AND OVER AND OVER ALREADY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          JOE MARVIN. 
          HELLO, UH, JOE MARVIN HAMBURG RESIDENT. 
          UM, AND ONCE AGAIN, I KNOW I, I SPOKE TO YOU LAST TIME. 
          MY, I WEAR MANY HATS AS FAR AS THE NIKE BASE GOES. 
          I'VE BEEN AN HYL HAMBURG YOUTH LACROSSE BOARD MEMBER. 
          I'M A HAMBURG HAWKS BOARD MEMBER. 
          MY OLDEST, IT WAS BORN IN 99, WHICH IS HOW HOCKEY PEOPLE REFER TO THEIR KIDS. 
          IF YOU DON'T KNOW, I HAVE A 99. 
          UM, HE'S IN COLLEGE. 
          HE PLAYED LACROSSE AT THE NIKE BASE FROM THE TIME HE WAS IN KINDERGARTEN UNTIL THE TIME HE GRADUATE. 
          AND I KNOW WE'RE FOCUSING ON THE ICE AND I'M SO HAPPY THAT WE SAID WE ARE GOING TO PUT THE PIPES IN, WE'RE GONNA DO THAT. 
          THAT SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS ARE ALL FOR THAT AND I REALLY HOPE THAT HAPPENS TO KEEP IT GOING. 
          BUT SOME OF THE OTHER RENOVATIONS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS HAVING BATHROOMS ACCESSIBLE TO BOTH SIDES, I DON'T KNOW IF THE COMMUNITY REALIZES THAT. 
          SO THEY'LL BE ACCESSIBLE FROM BOTH THE OUTSIDE AND THE INSIDE. 
          SO BMX SOFTBALL, UM, MY BOYS LOVE THE FLAG FOOTBALL PROGRAM THAT GOES ON THERE. 
          YOU KNOW, THE YOUTH LACROSSE, BASEBALL DIAMONDS WE USE THERE. 
          WE'LL ALL BE ABLE TO ENJOY THOSE AMENITIES. 
          AND RIGHT NOW WE USE FOUR ROCKS AND WE BRING IN BIG LACROSSE TOURNAMENTS AND IT'S DISGUSTING TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST WITH YOU. 
          AND IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE SOMETHING BETTER THAN PORT POTTIES THAT YOU HOPE THEY COME AND CLEAN EVEN THOUGH YOU PAID THEM TO AS A BOARD MEMBER. 
          YOU KNOW? BUT THAT'S 
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GETTING SIDETRACKED. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP TOO. 
          WE NEED ALL THE RENOVATIONS IN THE NIKE BASE. 
          UM, I I WOULD LOVE A TAJ MAHAL. 
          I HAVE LACROSSE PLAYERS RIGHT NOW. 
          I WOULD LOVE NOT TO HAVE TO GO TO ELMA TO USE THEIR TURF. 
          UM, BUT THAT, THAT'S BEEN LOOKED AT MANY TIMES. 
          I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY THAT WE OWN THE NIKE BASE AND I'M ALL FOR, AND WE OWN THE LAND THERE AND IT MAKES SENSE NOT TO POUR MONEY INTO SOMETHING WE DON'T OWN. 
          BUT WE DON'T OWN THAT LAND THAT MR. ALKI REFERRED TO EITHER. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT TOM WOULD HAVE TO PURCHASE. 
          AND I KNOW TO WANTED JUST BUILT A BRAND NEW RINK ON LAND THEY OWNED. 
          AND I BELIEVE THE PRICE TAG WAS 20 MILLION FOR A RINK WITH NO PERF, NO OTHER FACILITIES, NO OTHER ANYTHING. 
          SO I BELIEVE WE TALKED ABOUT IT LAST TIME WITH PHASES. 
          LET'S DO THE FIRST PHASE AND START TO FIX THE ARENA WE'VE HAD FOR 50 YEARS THAT ALL THESE PEOPLE HAVE COME HERE TO SUPPORT AND LOVE AND I MYSELF HAVE GROWN TO LOVE. 
          AND THEN START ADDING THOSE PHASES IN THERE. 
          AND IF WE CAN GET A TODD MAHAL SOMEPLACE ELSE, GREAT. 
          IF WE GET A TODD MAHAL AT THE NIKE BASE, THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC TOO. 
          IF I'M WILLING TO DRIVE TO ALMA, PEOPLE WILL BE WILLING TO DRIVE TO US. 
          THERE ARE 52 HOCKEY TOURNAMENTS IN WESTERN NEW YORK RIGHT NOW. 
          WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE CURRENT SEASON. 
          PEOPLE DRIVE TO CATTLE ORUS TO PARTICIPATE. 
          HOCKEY TIME RENTS THEIR ICE HOCKEY TIME SENDS YOU TO LOCKPORT, CAT, ORUS AMHERST, YOU SIGN UP FOR THE RIVERWORKS TOURNAMENT. 
          THERE IS A VERY GOOD CHANCE YOU MIGHT NOT EVEN LAY THERE. 
          AND ANYBODY WHO COACHES HOCKEY KNOWS THAT MM-HMM . 
          YOU KNOW, AND PARTICIPATES IN HOCKEY. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, TO SAY THAT IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE SOMETHING RIGHT OFF THE FREEWAY. 
          IT WOULD BE FANTASTIC TO, TO YOUR POINT ON THE TON WANDA PROJECT, 'CAUSE I'VE LOOKED INTO THAT. 
          UM, 'CAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S $15 MILLION THAT'S ALLOCATED IN BONDS BEFORE THE BOARD TODAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          MY UNDERSTANDING, UM, AND I ASKED MR. ESTONIA. 
          WE HAD SOME GOOD DISCUSSIONS. 
          OUR ENGINEER ABOUT THAT, UH, IN SPEAKING TO PEOPLE IS THAT, THAT INCLUDES, UH, SOME SOCCER RUGBY FIELDS AS WELL AS SOME PICKLEBALL COURTS. 
          UM, SO MY THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, LOOK, WE, WE DO WHATEVER, WHATEVER WE CAN WAS REASONABLE. 
          AS I SAID, THE MAIN FOCUS, AT LEAST FOR ME IS THE, IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS WHEN YOU CAME TO THE BOARD TWO WEEKS AGO. 
          UH, HAVING GOOD ICE, HAVING SAFE BOARDS, HAVING A PROPER POOLING, HAVING A COMPRESSOR, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S $15 MILLION AND YOU CAN BUILD A BRAND NEW ROOM AND HAVE FOUR OR FIVE RUGBY FIELDS AND PICKLEBALL COURTS AND SPLASH PADS. 
          SOMETHING WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD LOOK AT. 
          BUT THAT'S WHERE I'M COMMITTING ON THE RECORD, IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          AND I, AND I AGREE THAT THOSE LOCKER ROOMS, UM, ARE ARE VERY OLD. 
          UM, AND SO ARE THE ONES AT, AT LEISURE RINKS THOUGH. 
          BUT, BUT THE SAME WAY IT IS TIME WORK. 
          WHEN I WALK INTO LEISURE RINKS, WHEN I WALK INTO THE, I MEAN, THOSE, THOSE ARE THE SAME, UM, THEY'RE THE SAME AS THEY WERE WHEN I WAS A KID. 
          AND, AND I, AND I THINK THEY COULD BE UPGRADED, BUT I THINK WE, WE SHOULD HAVE A BETTER FACILITY IN A TOWN SUCH AS HAMBURG, WHERE WE CAN HOST THOSE TOURNAMENTS. 
          AND I THINK THERE'S A DEMAND FOR IT. 
          AND YOU KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO GET ICE. 
          THAT'S WHY, AS YOU SAID, WE SKATE ANYWHERE AND EVERYWHERE I BUY ICE FROM MY HOCKEY TEAM AND YOU KNOW, WE, THERE'S MARKET FOR IT. 
          AND, AND I, I DON'T LIKE TO EXPLORE IT. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND AS YOU SAID, IT MAKES MUCH MORE SENSE TO INVEST IN SOMETHING WE OWN THAN SOMETHING WE DON'T. 
          AND RIGHT NOW WE OWN THE PROPERTY THERE, WE OWN THE BUILDING, WE HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE THERE. 
          WE NEED TO INVEST IN IT. 
          JUST LIKE WE GO TO OUR HOUSE. 
          WE WOULDN'T DO NOTHING TO OUR HOUSE FOR 50 YEARS AND EXPECT IT TO STILL BE IN GOOD SHAPE. 
          I KNOW I, THE HOUSE I WOULDN'T WANT. 
          UH, KEN, KEN, IF YOU DON'T MIND, UM, THE LACROSSE AND STUFF HE'S TALKING ABOUT TODAY, I THINK GOTTA, IS THAT WHERE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING THE CONCESSION SLASH BATHROOMS? IS THAT IN THE SAME SPOT OR NO, WE CAN, WE, WE CAN WALK, WE'LL WALK FOR A CLEANER . 
          WE USE LACROSSE HILLS. 
          WHEN WE HAVE LACROSSE ARMY, THEY GO BEHIND, UM, THE SNOWBOARDER, LIKE THE SNOWBOARDERS, SNOW, UM, SNOWMOBILES. 
          WE HAVE FIELDS BACK THERE. 
          WE HAVE FIELDS ALL AROUND, ALL AROUND, YOU KNOW, SOFTBALL DIAMONDS. 
          THEY'RE WHERE THEY ARE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE FENCE WHERE THAT BIG HILL IS. 
          AND WE USE THE ONES UP FRONT WHERE THEY PLAY FLAG FOOTBALL. 
          SO IF THERE WAS A CONCESSION STAND OPEN THERE, IT WOULD CERTAINLY GET USED. 
          AND IF THERE WERE BATHROOMS THERE, THEY WOULD CERTAINLY BE USED AS WELL OVER BY THE SOCCER BASE. 
          I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET MY BEARING DOWN WHERE YOU WERE TALKING WITH BLUE CROSS AND THE RIGHT, THE, THE, THE PROJECT WITH THE NIKE BASE IS SUPPOSED TO ADD, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT CONCESSION STAND WILL BE ABLE TO BE ACCESSIBLE FROM THE OUTSIDE AND THE INSIDE SO THAT THEY CAN OPEN IT UP IF THERE'S AN OUTSIDE EVENT AND THEN THE BATHROOM'S, THE SINK, IT STILL WOULD BE QUITE A DISTANCE FROM THE SOCCER FIELDS. 
          OH, SOCCER FIELD. 
          SOCCER FIELD, SOMETHING OVER THERE. 
          OTHER PEOPLE NEED A GOLF CART. 
          I, MY MY SON'S PLAYING ARCHS TOO. 
          WE HAVE, WE HAVE TRACKED 
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THAT JUST TO SEE HOW FAR IT IS YOU, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE IS A PROJECT IN THE WORKS FOR THE BATHROOMS BY THE SOCCER FIELDS THAT I THINK IS BEING FUNDED THROUGH. 
          UM, WE'VE SECURED FUNDING FROM LEGISLATOR GILMORE. 
          THAT'S GOING TO BE, YES. 
          SO THAT WILL, THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED. 
          SO IT, AS A GENERAL STATEMENT, WE'VE BEEN DOING MANY PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE YEARS AND ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR FUNDING. 
          SO IT'S NOT ALWAYS THROUGH TAXPAYER, UM, DOLLARS TO IMPROVE THE YOUTH PROGRAMMING, THE YOUTH FACILITIES IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          NOT, NOT JUST HOCKEY RELATED AS IT'S ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED. 
          YOU KNOW, I'M SURE MANY OF THESE STUDENTS ARE INVOLVED IN MORE THAN ONE SPORT. 
          SO THERE'S A GOOD EXAMPLE. 
          WE'RE CONSTANTLY, UM, IMPROVING OUR FACILITIES AND IT'S, AND IT'S A CHALLENGE. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I MENTIONED THE FACT THAT THESE IMPROVEMENTS WILL NOT ONLY BENEFIT US HOGS AND STATE GRADE. 
          MY, MY BOY, MY SON IS A GRADUATE OF THAT AS WELL. 
          UM, BUT IT WILL ALSO BENEFIT B MX THAT WILL BENEFIT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THE PRESIDENT OF BMX IS ACTUALLY COACHING ON THE ICE RIGHT NOW. 
          HE WANTED TO BE HERE, ONE OF THE ONLY COACHES THAT ARE THERE AT THE MOMENT. 
          SO HE WANTED TO BE HERE 'CAUSE HE WANTED TO VOICE HIS OPINION THAT THOSE RENOVATIONS WOULD BE GREAT IF THEY BRING IN A LIVE PEOPLE THAT, AND IT WOULD BE NICE. 
          THEY'RE RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE NIKE BASE AND THEY, YOU KNOW WHERE THAT IS. 
          UM, SO JUST TO LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW AND EVERYONE ELSE REALIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU REALIZE IT, BUT EVERYONE ELSE MIGHT BECAUSE IT'S SO HOT AND CENTRIC RIGHT NOW THAT THAT $7 MILLION IS GOING TO BENEFIT FAR MORE PEOPLE THAN JUST DURING THE HOCKEY SEASON. 
          SO IT'LL BE AN ALL YEAR ROUND BENEFIT. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, MY RESOLUTION IS NOT COMMITTED TO ONE LOCATION. 
          I DO TALK ABOUT THE HAMBURGER ARENA, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT IT, IT COULD BE PROBLEMATIC, UM, WHO KNOWS. 
          SO THEY DO THE, THE STUDY IS IF WE START DIG, WE START DIGGING UP THIRD AT, AT THE NIKE BASE BASED ON WHAT THE HISTORY OF IT WAS BEING. 
          MILITARY COMPLEX, I WOULD, BUT I OPEN TO ALL IDEAS. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, WE DO OWN THAT. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF LAND THERE, AS YOU KNOW. 
          AND UM, AND I DO HAVE CHILDREN THAT PARTICIPATE IN SOCCER WITH THE MONARCHY, PLAYED LACROSSE WITH THE KNIGHT. 
          JUST, JUST LIKE YOU. 
          AND I'M AS COUNCIL, AS COUNCILMAN FARRELL HAD MENTIONED, UH, EXCITED ABOUT THOSE PROJECTS, UH, FOR BATHROOMS OUT THERE BY THE SOCCER. 
          'CAUSE IT IS A BIT OF NO MAN'S LAND THERE. 
          AND AND IF WE EVER HAD A TODD MAHAL NIKE BASE, I'M SURE THE PEOPLE WOULD STAY RIGHT IN THOSE CAMP ROAD HOTELS. 
          I KNOW, SURE THEY WOULD. 
          I I KNOW A LOT OF THE BUSINESSES ON MAIN STREET WHEN, WHEN WE HAVE EVEN JUST GAMES AT THE NIKE BASE, WHETHER IT'S LACROSSE OR HOCKEY, WHERE CAN WE GO EAT? WE'RE SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT, GO HIT UP YOUR TERRACE. 
          GO HIT UP. 
          YOU KNOW. 
          UM, WELL I WAS ST. 
          JUICY 'CAUSE THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH ONE OF THE NORMAL ONES. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, GO, GO TO ALL THESE WONDERFUL RESTAURANTS, RIGHT? WE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT IN RIGHT IN HAMBURG TOO FAR. 
          VILLAGE IS TOO FAR. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING THOUGH. 
          I MEAN, EVEN JUST THE GAMES WE BRING IN RIGHT NOW, BRING IN, YOU KNOW, AND IF WE MAKE THE HAMBURG MIGHT BASE, GET THOSE SOFTBALL TOURNAMENTS BACK AND EVERYTHING THEY USED TO BE THERE MAKE IT A DESTINATION AGAIN. 
          I MEAN, IT WASN'T, IT WAS BEFORE. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHY IT WOULDN'T BE NOW. 
          SO THEY MADE AN INVESTMENT 50 YEARS AGO. 
          I'M JUST HOPING, YOU KNOW, WE MADE THAT INVESTMENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MR. . 
          DID YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT DENTIST NOW OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE SCENE CENTER? UH, GO AHEAD, . 
          DAVE MCDERMOT. 
          HELLO, I'M DAVE MCDERMOT, UM, VILLAGE PRE VILLAGE PRESIDENT AND PRESIDENT OF HAMBURG HOCKEY. 
          UM, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT WE'RE NOT HERE TO BE CONFRONTATIONAL TONIGHT. 
          WE'RE HERE TO TALK CALMLY AND LOGICALLY ABOUT WHY WE SHE DO THE WHOLE UPGRADE, UPGRADE PROJECT. 
          UM, I'VE TALKED WITH, UM, COUNCILMAN LORENZ, COUNCILMAN  SUPERVISOR, HOPE, UM, I MET WITH COUNCILMAN, UH, . 
          FRANK DID NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT, BUT I DID SEE SOME OF YOUR EMAILS. 
          OUR, OUR, OUR MEMBERS. 
          UM, SO I, I WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE R AND WHY. 
          I MEAN, I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU'VE ALL AGREED THAT THE MECHANICALS ALL NEED TO BE UPDATED AND YOU'RE ON BOARD TO DO THAT. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S AWESOME, RIGHT? THAT'S THE FIRST STEP THAT WE ABSOLUTELY 100% HAVE TO HAVE TO USE. 
          YOU KNOW, I I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH C**K SINCE 19 7, 19 93. 
          SO RANDY, WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE RATE WHEN IT WENT DOWN IN 1997, OUR SEASON ENDED ON FEBRUARY 14TH, 1997. 
          UH, WE, THEY BORROWED AND WERE BLOCKED, UH, ICE FOR OUR TRAVEL TEAMS TO FINISH THE SEASON. 
          BUT OUR HOUSE PROGRAM ENDED RIGHT THEN AND THERE. 
          AND SADLY MY OLDEST DAUGHTER WAS GOING 
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IN A CHAMPIONSHIP GAME THE VERY NEXT WEEK. 
          THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN. 
          SO, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS IS THAT IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT . 
          UH, YOU HAVE AMBER OF COURSE THERE WITH OUR 600 MEMBERS, BUT YOU'VE GOT SABA THAT'S PART OF THAT USE OF THE RING. 
          UH, SKATE R EIGHTH, THEY'RE HERE TONIGHT. 
          UH, THE HIGH SCHOOLS HAMMER, FRONTIER JV TEAM, VARSITY TEAM, MODIFIED TEAM, AND BOTH TEAMS OR BOTH, BOTH HAVE, UH, VARSITY WOMEN'S TEAMS OVER COLLEGE, OVER COLLEGES HERE. 
          UM, DON'T THINK WE ALL REALIZE THE G THAT WE HAVE WITH  COLLEGE. 
          THERE'S 6,000 COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES IN THE COUNTRY. 
          THERE ARE ONLY 108 COLLEGES THAT HAVE WOMEN'S ATE LESS THAN 1%. 
          AND WE HAVE ONE OF THOSE LESS THAN 1% OVER USING OUR AMBER TOWN ARENAS. 
          SO WE SHOULD BE, WE SHOULD BE HAPPY ABOUT THAT. 
          AND THEY ARE THE PRIMARY REASON THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THE SECOND SIP. 
          WELL, THE SET OF LOCKER ROOMS AT THE END OF THE RING BECAUSE THEY'LL HAVE SELF-CONTAINED BATHROOMS AND SELF-CONTAINED SHOWERS. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT CAME UP WITH IT. 
          THEY MADE A FINANCIAL COMMITMENT TO THE TOWN, BUT WE'LL GET TO USE 'EM TOO. 
          THE, UM, UH, FRONTIER AND THE HAMBURG GIRLS, THEY DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO SHOWER. 
          THEY JUST DON'T. 
          UM, THEY WOULD LIKE TO BUT THEY CAN'T BE WALKING THE HALLS. 
          UM, I TALKED TO BOB  THE OTHER DAY. 
          BOB IS THE FRONTIER VARSITY, UH, COACH. 
          AND HE COMMENTED TO ME THAT I JUST WAS BEYOND WHAT I WOULD THINK WOULD HAPPEN WHEN THOSE GIRLS GET OVER THERE AT THREE 15 IN THE AFTERNOON FOR THEIR, UH, PRACTICES. 
          THE SENIOR SKATING SHOOT IS ENDING. 
          SO WHEN THESE GIRLS ARE GETTING READY TO GO ON THE ICE, YOU GOT OLD GUYS LIKE MYSELF COMING OUT OF THE SHOWERS, WEARING JUST HALS WALKING DOWN THE HALLWAY AND THAT VARSITY TEAM CONSISTS OF GIRLS THAT ARE IN SEVENTH TO 12TH GRADE. 
          THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S JUST BROAD. 
          ALRIGHT, SO, UM, THEN GOT IT ALL ESCAPE AND YOU GOT RENTALS. 
          THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE USING THE ACTUAL ICE ARENA. 
          BUT AS JOE MENTIONED, FLAG FOOTBALL, LACROSSE, SOFTBALL, BMX, THERE'S AN A DA PLAYGROUND OUT FRONT, RIGHT? AND THEN YOU GOT THE SUMMER DAY CAMP. 
          THE SUMMER DAY CAMP GOES THERE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY START, BUT IF IT IS A RAINY DAY AND YOU GO IN THERE, IT IS LIKE 105 DEGREES INSIDE THE ARENA THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO PLAY AND DO STUFF ON. 
          IT IS, IT IS SO BAD. 
          THAT'S WHY THAT DEHUMIDIFICATION SYSTEM HAS GOT TO GO IN WITH THE MECHANICALS. 
          UM, AND IT STRUCK ME AS ONE. 
          WE'VE GOT THE FRONT ENTRANCE OF OUR HAMMER ICE ARENA WHERE OUR, IT MIGHT BE RECREATIONAL CENTER AND WE GOT PORTA POTS OUT FRONT. 
          WE GOT PORT POTS OUT FRONT FOR FLAG FOOTBALL AND THE A DA AND UH, UH, PLAYGROUND PEOPLE THAT USE IT, THAT, THAT WAS CRAZY. 
          THAT IT WAS CRAZY TO HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULDN'T PUT ONE IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE UNLESS YOU KNOW YOU HAD A TORNADO OR SOMETHING COME THROUGH. 
          FRANK, I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU WANNA BUILD A NEW FACILITY WITH EVERYTHING. 
          OUR SENIORS HERE, THEY DESERVE A SENIOR CENTER. 
          THEY USE, I USE THAT SENIOR CENTER. 
          IT IS AN AWESOME PLACE TO GO. 
          UM, AND IT IS SAD THAT WE'RE LOSING AND I THINK IT IS GREAT THAT YOU WANT TO BUILD A MULTI-USE FACILITY. 
          BUT AS SUPERVISOR HOPE MENTIONED, WE'VE BEEN DOWN THERE 1997 WHERE THE WALMART CURRENTLY IS. 
          THERE WAS A COMPANY OUT OF TORONTO THAT WAS GONNA COME AND BUILD A TWIN RING FACILITY OVER THERE. 
          WE WERE PAYING $85 AN HOUR FOR US AT THE TIME. 
          OUR IMMEDIATE COST WAS GONNA GO UP TO $200 IN 1997. 
          I I DIDN'T DO THE MATH, YOU KNOW, WITH WHAT THE DOLLAR IS WORTH THEN VERSUS TODAY. 
          BUT THAT'S PROBABLY FOUR OR 500 BUCKS AN HOUR IN TODAY'S DOLLARS. 
          YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOMEBODY THAT HAD PROPOSED, UH, TWIN RING FACILITY ONE TIME AT THE  CLUB AND HE MADE THE STATEMENT SEVERAL, SEVERAL TIMES. 
          HOCKEY PARENTS ARE CRAZY AND THEY'LL PAY, THEY'LL PAY WHATEVER IT COSTS. 
          IT'S NOT TRUE. 
          THERE IS A LIMIT. 
          EVERYBODY HAS A LIMIT. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, I I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WHEN I SAY WE, I I'M NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT HAMMER POCKET, UM, I'M TALKING ABOUT, UH, EVERYBODY. 
          SO AGAIN, FRANK, I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU WANNA BUILD THIS BEAUTIFUL FACILITY. 
          WE'VE BEEN THERE. 
          I FEEL LIKE WE'VE GONE BACK IN TIME. 
          1997 
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WHEN WE BATTLED TO GET OUR RING BACK UP 2009, THE VOTERS OF HAMBURG, IT WAS OUT ON A REFERENDUM. 
          THEY TURNED IT DOWN. 
          THEY DID NOT WANT A PUBLIC PRIVATE, UH, ENTERPRISE. 
          UH, 2017 WE HAD TWO SPORTS STAR CAPITAL AND  GROUP NEVER MATERIALIZED. 
          IT JUST DIDN'T HAPPEN. 
          THE PUBLIC PRIVATE DOESN'T WORK. 
          JOE TOUCHED BASE ON IT. 
          WE GOT 300 ACRES OVER THE NIKE BASE. 
          LET'S USE IT. 
          THE SENIORS WILL COME OVER THERE, SOUND LIKE THEY WON'T. 
          IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S OUT OF THE COUNTRY. 
          YES. 
          PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIVE IN HAMBURG THINK THAT WE LIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE GRAND CANYON, BUT IF, IF IT IS THERE, THEY'LL COME. 
          UM, SO, UM, HOPEFULLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MECHANICAL, WE TALKED ABOUT NEW GAS BOARDS, WE NEED THE NEW GAS BOARDS ABSOLUTELY NEEDS TO BE DONE. 
          UM, I KNOW THAT, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE TALKED TO THE B AND G GUYS, BUT THE BG GUYS WILL SAY, YEAH, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY TAKE 'EM APART. 
          WE'RE GETTING THEM BACK TOGETHER. 
          IT PROBABLY GONNA BE IMPOSSIBLE. 
          AND, AND DAN, YOU AND I WENT THROUGH THE RINK AND YOU SAW EVERYTHING YEP. 
          THAT WE, WE LOOKED AT. 
          SO WHAT WE DESPERATELY NEED, WE NEED THE GIRLS' LOCKER ROOM. 
          UH, WE NEED UPDATES TO OUR CURRENT LOCKER ROOMS. UM, I WAS INTERVIEWED BY CHANNEL FOUR BEFORE THIS STARTED. 
          UM, EVERY COUPLE YEARS THEY HAVE TO REPAINT THE BENCHES IN THE LOCKER ROOM BECAUSE KIDS GET SLIVERS AND NOW THEIR FINGERS ARE, ARE, UH, FEET. 
          SO I MEAN IT HAPPENS. 
          UM, SO WE'D LIKE TO SEE OUR UPDATE OF LOCKER ROOMS UPDATED. 
          UM, I KNOW SPACE IS A CONSIDERATION IN THE PLANS THAT WERE PRESENTED BY THE CONSULTING GROUP. 
          UH, THE PRO SHOP IS GONNA SHRINK. 
          YOU ONLY NEED THAT I WANNA SAY 600 SQUARE FEET, BUT WE'D HAVE TO CHECK THE PLANS FOR THAT. 
          WE CAN STILL TAKE SOME OF THAT SPACE AND DO SOMETHING WITH IT, RIGHT? THE SKATE GRADE PEOPLE USE THE LOCKER. 
          THEY DON'T USE THE LOCKER ROOMS. THEY DESPERATELY NEED IT. 
          WE NEED A NEW FLOOR IN THERE. 
          LIKE YOU WOULD, I MEAN, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY PARENTS HERE HAVE TO GET THEIR PLAYERS SKATE SHARPER 'CAUSE THEY WALK RIGHT THROUGH THE CRACKS AND HIT THE CONCRETE ON THE, ON THE PADS. 
          SO, UM, WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO DO, BUT WE DO WANT A LITTLE BIT MORE, AND I'M JUST GONNA SAY THIS, UM, THERE WAS SOME FACEBOOK POSTS, YOU KNOW, ABOUT, OH, JUST ANOTHER LIBERAL DEMOCRAT WANTING TO SPEND TAX HOURS THAT HAMMER PEOPLE, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. 
          I'VE BEEN A MEMBER OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY FOR 48 YEARS, OKAY? THAT'S A LOT OF LONGER THAN PEOPLE THAT ARE, THAT ARE OLDER THAN A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE HERE. 
          SO I MEAN, IT IT IS NOT JUST, I'M THINKING ABOUT THE KIDS, THE SENIORS, THE PEOPLE, SABA, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE USING THE RING. 
          UM, I'M GONNA ASK YOU ALL THE POLICE PUT THE PARTISAN POLITICS ASIDE. 
          DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THIS ROOM AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE USING THE RING, PLEASE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ONE MORE THING. 
          I WAS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND THE LAST MEETING, BUT I BELIEVE THE NUMBER OF $36 PER HOUSEHOLD WOULD BE THE TAX HIT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AT THAT MEETING. 
          SOMEBODY SAID, SOMEBODY SAID $36. 
          UM, THAT'S THE COST OF A SMALL PIZZA WITH ONE TOPPING AND A ORDER OF CHICKEN WINGS. 
          I FOR WANT TO BE WILLING TO GIVE THAT UP TO GET TO GREAT LUNCH. 
          SO THANK YOU ANN. 
          I AM CLE, I'VE A RESIDENT OF PAM AND COULD YOU TURN THE BIKE DOWN? THANK, OKAY. 
          AMANDA MATEO. 
          I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF HAMBURG FOR ALMOST FOUR YEARS AND I'VE BEEN ON THE RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD FOR I THINK AROUND 30 YEARS. 
          AND WHEN I STARTED OUT, I HAD, I DID A RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD. 
          I HAD CHILDREN IN HMHA AND I WAS ALL FOR A PLAN. 
          IT WAS GONNA BRING US A SECOND SHEET ICE. 
          WELL, WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY MR. AZI ON DOING SURVEYS OVER THE YEARS AND IT HAS NEVER COME BACK THAT WE NEED OR COULD SUPPORT A SECOND SHEET OF US. 
          BELIEVE ME, I WAS IN YOUR POSITION ALSO AS FAR AS FIELDHOUSE. 
          I WOULD LOVE A FIELDHOUSE. 
          EVERYBODY WOULD LOVE TO PLAN THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING, BUT YOU ARE TELLING THESE PEOPLE TODAY THAT YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF THE REPAIRS AND YET YOU ARE GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THE MONEY TO FUND THOSE REPAIRS. 
          WE NEED THAT STUFF DESPERATELY. 
          NOW I'M GOING TO THE NIKE BASE WITH MY GRANDCHILDREN AND I'M APPALL. 
          I MEAN, WHY WOULD YOU WANNA INTERRUPT SERVICES? THE CURRENT PLAN WILL ALREADY DELAY THE HOCKEY SEASON BY A COUPLE OF WEEKS. 
          THAT'S NOT TRUE. 
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WELL, FROM WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS MADE OF THE PLAN. 
          SO ANYTHING THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING THAT IS GOING TO DENY THE FUNDING, IT'S GOING TO DELAY IT EVEN FURTHER. 
          AND TWO WEEKS AGO YOU ALL SAID YOU WERE GOING TO, YOU HAD TO DO FURTHER RESEARCH. 
          YOU WERE GONNA LOOK INTO IT. 
          SO I'M ASKING THAT EACH ONE OF YOU TELL US EXACTLY WHAT YOU'VE DONE IN THOSE LAST TWO WEEKS. 
          BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT I ASKED THE RECREATION DIRECTOR, HAVE YOU HEARD FROM 'EM? HAVE THEY REACHED OUT? HAVE THEY ASKED WHAT'S GOING ON? AND THE ANSWER WAS NO. 
          EVEN, UH, MR. WEST WAS ON THE TRANSITION COMMITTEE FROM THE SENIOR CENTER. 
          HAVE YOU HEARD FROM 'EM? NO. 
          SO WHAT RESEARCH EXACTLY ARE YOU DOING? IT'S INCUMBENT UPON YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ISSUES ARE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE REPRESENTING. 
          AND YOU HAVE TO RESPECT WHAT HAS BEEN DONE THUS FAR. 
          SOMEBODY DIDN'T JUST COME UP A COUPLE WEEKS AGO AND SAY, HEY, WE WANT $7.5 MILLION. 
          THIS HAS GONE ON AND ON FOR YEARS AND PEOPLE PUT A LOT OF TIME AND A LOT OF EFFORT INTO COMING UP WITH SOMETHING THAT WAS REASONABLE. 
          AND WE COULDN'T HIT EVERYTHING ON A WISHLIST. 
          BELIEVE ME, I WAS AT THE MEETINGS WHERE THEY SAY, I HAVE THE WISHLIST. 
          AND YOU KNOW, MR. KOSKI RESPECTFULLY, WHEN YOU DO SHOW UP, YOU SHOULD USE THIS TIME PRODUCTIVELY AND SOME YOUR PERSONAL GRUDGES SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          AS FAR AS THE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS, WE HAVE BEEN DOWN THAT ROAD. 
          YOU DON'T ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. 
          YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT PERHAPS YOU WEREN'T EVEN AT THOSE MEETINGS. 
          I WAS, MY SON'S HOCKEY SEASON WAS CANCELED IN 1997. 
          I WAS ON THE RECREATION BOARD ADVISORY BOARD. 
          THEN 2009 WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE RIDICULOUS PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAD MEETINGS WITH, OH, IT WAS WAY MORE THAN DOUBLE THIS. 
          I, IT WAS MORE THAN TRIPLE THIS. 
          AND IT WENT TO A REFERENDUM AND THE TOWN OVERWHELMINGLY SAID, NO, YOU ALSO HAVEN'T ADDRESSED THE STATE LAW REGARDING THE ACRE FOR ACRE. 
          WHEN YOU BRING IN A PRIVATE ENTERPRISE, THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AS WELL. 
          AND I THINK YOU NEED TO TELL PEOPLE ABOUT THAT BEFORE YOU BRING UP YOUR RESOLUTION. 
          AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE REPRESENTED MR. WALKER WHO HAS AN INTEREST IN THAT. 
          AND IT IS CERTAINLY AN APPEARANCE OF IMPROPRIETY FOR YOU EVEN TO BE VOTING ON IT. 
          NEVERMIND BRINGING IT UP BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN DOWN THE ROAD WITH MR. WALKER AND EVERYBODY WOULD LOVE THEIR . 
          AS A MATTER OF FACT, WHEN MR. TRIP WAS BUILT, RECREATION DIRECTOR, THAT'S HOW OUR BACK OWNED, THAT'S HOW OLD I AM. 
          THERE WERE BEAUTIFUL PLANTS, BEAUTIFUL PLANS, HAD A WALKING TRACK OVER THE RIG FIELD HOUSE, EVERYTHING. 
          WE HAD A DOUGH. 
          THOSE PLANS ARE PROBABLY THERE, COULD SAVE YOU SOME ARCHITECTURAL COSTS. 
          BEAUTIFUL. 
          THE ROOF BUILT ON WAN AND THAT PROJECT WAS SCRAPED. 
          WE ALSO HAD THE 2017 WHERE IT WAS GONNA GO OVER ON SOUTH SHORE. 
          IT JUST ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN. 
          WORK ON IT. 
          GREAT. 
          SPEND YOUR TIME ON IT. 
          GET SUPPORT. 
          NOBODY IS GONNA SAY THAT. 
          WE DON'T WANT BATAL MAHAL, BUT WE NEED TO FIX THINGS NOW. 
          WE DON'T THINK MAYBE CHANGING AREAS. 
          I A PLACE TO CHANGE A DIAPER . 
          I PERSONALLY WAS INVOLVED IN LACROSSE, SETTING UP THE BOOSTER CLUB, RAISING ALL THE MONEY. 
          AND PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT EVERYBODY, UH, THE TOWN IMPROVING THE FACILITIES, THAT WOULD OUR HARD WORK THAT PUT THAT BUILDING UP FOR LACROSSE. 
          THAT WAS NOT THE TAXPAYERS, THAT WAS NOT THE TALENT, THAT WAS THE PARENTS THAT ALL THAT DID. 
          AND TO WANT TO TAKE SERVICES AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE THAT IT'S JUST RIDICULOUS. 
          AND I THINK YOU REALLY NEED TO ANSWER FOR THAT. 
          AND YOU REALLY SHOULD HAVE MORE FAMILIARITY WITH WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE WITH THOSE ORIGINAL PLANS THAT HAD A DOME WITH THE PLAN IN 2009 WITH THE PLAN IN 2017 AND WHAT HAPPENED WITH THOSE BEFORE YOU GO JUMPING FORWARD WITH THIS. 
          BECAUSE DO YOU, CAN YOU PRESENT US WITH SOMETHING THAT SAYS THIS DIDN'T WORK THEN BECAUSE, BUT THIS IS THE CHANGE IN THE APPROACH I'D LIKE TO MAKE. 
          WE DON'T HEAR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          AND LIKE I SAID, WE'VE BEEN DOWN THIS ROAD AND WE KNOW WHERE IT ENDS AND IT ALSO DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY QUICKLY. 
          WE'RE TALKING A DECADE BEFORE THIS IS GOING TO GOING TO HAPPEN. 
          WE'RE LOSING PEOPLE AND LOSING PEOPLE MEANS LOSING REVENUE. 
          SO YOU GOTTA CONSIDER THAT AS WELL. 
          AND YOU TALK ABOUT YOU NEED MORE TIME. 
          YOU'VE BEEN ON IT FOR SEVEN YEARS, HOW MUCH MORE TIME DO YOU NEED? 
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AND THAT TO, TO A MILLION DOLLARS IN THE MECHANICAL THAT WAS FOR E READ THAN THERE SOME ALLEGATION THAT  RESPOND. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YOU VOTED YES FOR EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. 
          THOSE RECORDS HAVE KEPT PEOPLE KNOW THAT. 
          OKAY, MAYBE YOU FOUND THAT WHEN YOU WERE DOING YOUR RESEARCH. 
          I DID, BUT I'LL SHARE THAT. 
          SURE. 
          DO YOU, DO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT OUR PLAYGROUNDS ARE NOT UP TO CODE AND THE MONEY THAT YOU SAID WE HAVE THAT CAN BE PUT TOWARDS THE ICEBREAKER, THAT'S THEN WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO UPGRADE OUR PLAYGROUNDS THAT ARE NOT UP TO CODE. 
          WE NEED TO THINK SMART. 
          WE NEED, YES, WE NEED TO THINK AHEAD. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          BUT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS WHAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. 
          NOW DON'T EMBARRASS US, DON'T EMBARRASS THE COMMUNITY. 
          DON'T EMBARRASS YOURSELVES. 
          WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE CURRENT NEEDS AND NOT JUST PUT UP A PIE IN THE SKY THING AND SAY, YEAH, WOULDN'T, WELL THAT WON'T HAPPEN FOR 10 YEARS, BUT THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 
          WE'RE GONNA LOSE AN OPPORTUNITY ON A VERY UNIQUE SPACE THAT COULD BE USED FOR THE SENIOR CENTER THAT'S NOT GONNA COME AROUND. 
          AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT CAN ADDRESS JUST ABOUT ALL THE NEEDS. 
          I USE THE SENIOR CENTER. 
          I USED THE NIKE BASE, I USED THE TOWN FACILITIES AND I REALLY THINK IT'S A  YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING. 
          THE ICE HOCKEY ARENA NEEDS TO BE. 
          AND FROM THE, THE SUMMER PROGRAM, THOSE KIDS IN THERE WHEN IT'S OVER A HUNDRED DEGREES. 
          MY DAUGHTER WORKED THERE WHEN SHE WAS IN COLLEGE. 
          I KNOW YOU NEED TO ADDRESS THESE THINGS NOW. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. 
          I DID HEAR MR. MCDERMOTT SAY THAT, UM, HE WASN'T, HE WAS INTENDING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION, BUT SHE MADE SOME ALLEGATIONS AGAINST THE BOARD THAT SIMPLY AREN'T TRUE. 
          UM, I HAVE BEEN TO THE ARENA, I'VE STATED ON THAT. 
          I BEEN CLAIM THAT SINCE 1970. 
          OKAY. 
          WE DID EXPLORE OTHER PLANS AND OTHER PLANS DO EXIST. 
          YES, YOU ARE CORRECT. 
          UM, THE SCARE TACTICS THAT HAVE BEEN UNFORTUNATELY LEVELED TO TRY TO SCARE THESE POOR KIDS TO SAY THAT IF WE DON'T VOTE FOR THIS TODAY, THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA PLAY HOCKEY IS NOT TRUE OF 'EM. 
          THAT'S FALSE. 
          I AND YOU MAY, YOU MAY BE ENTITLED TO IT BROKE DOWN THREE TIMES THIS YEAR. 
          THAT IS WHY, THAT IS WHY MA'AM I SUPPORT THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE COOLING SYSTEM AND THE PLUMBING. 
          YES, I DO SUPPORT THOSE. 
          I THE IFICATION. 
          MAAM, IF YOU WOULD MAY LET ME FINISH. 
          I LISTENED TO YOU IF WE'RE GONNA PUT IT IN THE HUMIDIFICATION SYSTEM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THOUGHT ABOUT WAS MAYBE HAVING ICE THERE ALL YEAR LONG. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S A DISCUSSION THAT WE COULD HAVE BECAUSE THERE WERE PEOPLE HERE TWO WEEKS AGO THAT SAID THERE'S NO ICE IN THE SUBWAY. 
          ALL RIGHT? BUT THOSE COOLING SYSTEMS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, I SPOKE TO THE TOWN ENGINEER AND HE SAID THE PLAYERS WILL BE ABLE TO PLAY HOCKEY IN SEPTEMBER. 
          AND I'VE BEEN ELECTED TO REPRESENT NOT THE HAMBURG TALKS, NOT SABA, BUT EVERYONE IN THE TOWN OF HAMFORD. 
          AND I WALK AROUND, I TALK TO PEOPLE AND YES, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT THIS AND SOME PEOPLE DON'T. 
          BUT GUESS WHAT, IN FOUR YEARS, IF I DECIDE TO RUN AGAIN, YOU CAN VOTE AGAINST ME, YOU CAN VOTE FOR ME. 
          BUT I WILL BE GUIDED BY WHAT I THINK IS BEST FOR THE TAXPAYERS AND THE CITIZENS OF HAMBURG. 
          THIS TOWN OF THE CITIZENS, NOT BY ANY OTHER SPECIAL INTERESTS. 
          I WILL VOTE WHAT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE TOWN. 
          THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT WOULD SUPPORT YOU. 
          WAY MORE EXPENDITURES RELATIVE TO AN ICE ARENA. 
          SOME PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT THEIR TAXES TO GO UP. 
          SO WE HAVE A BALANCE HERE AS A COMMUNITY. 
          WHAT IS THE BALANCE? BUT WE HAVE, UH, INVESTIGATED THIS MATTER. 
          I HAVE SPOKEN TO OUR TOWN ENGINEER AND WHAT HE HAD ADVISED ME, MR. CUSTO. 
          AND WE TALKED AND I SENT YOU A LETTER ABOUT THIS IS A LOWER COST ALTERNATIVE FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD NOT RESULT IN ANY INTERRUPTION OF SKATING FOR THOSE CHILDREN. 
          NOW, MR. MCDERMOTT ALSO COMMENTED ON THE COST OF HOCKEY AND BEING EXPENSIVE. 
          LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING. 
          UH, THE SOUTHTOWN STARS, THE SOUTHBOUND STARS WHERE MY CHILDREN PARTICIPATE, THE TUITION WAS $850. 
          OKAY? WHEN MY SON PLAYED FOR THE HAWKS, IT WAS $1,500. 
          NOW GUESS WHAT? WE GOT MORE ICE. 
          WE HAD MORE ICE AND WE HAVEN'T MADE $250 AN HOUR. 
          NOW EACH TEAM GETS TO DO THEIR OWN BUDGET, IF YOU KNOW THAT. 
          YEAH, THEY WOULD BE ON TOP OF THAT 850. 
          BUT I CAN TELL YOU ANY EVENT FOR 
          [02:45:01]
HAVING THE FACILITY SERVICES FOR THE PEOPLE, IMPROVE PROPERTY VALUE PEOPLE, AND WE'RE GONNA, HOW ARE YOU GONNA PAY FOR THE REFRIGERATION TO COMMUNICATION CALL HOLD FORWARD. 
          UM, I HAVE TALKED TO, UH, MR. MCDERMOTT. 
          I HAVE TALKED WITH, UH, SO YOUR ENGINEER, I'VE TALKED WITH THE RECREATION DIRECTOR. 
          I MEAN NOT HAVE TALKED TO WHOEVER YOU WERE MENTIONING BEFORE, BUT I, I HAVE DONE MY HOMEWORK. 
          I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS. 
          UM, UNFORTUNATELY, AS I TOLD MR. MCDERMOTT, I SAID, THERE'S NOT AN APPETITE TO DO BOTH PHASE. 
          I TOLD PHASE ONE, THE CONCRETE, THE PIPING, THE H BAG, UM, I THINK THE, UM, THEIER ALREADY ORDERED HERE. 
          THAT ABSOLUTELY THAT WILL BE IT BECAUSE I HAVE TO BUY SOMETHING AND NOT PUT IT IN. 
          YOU KNOW, I SAY THE POLITICAL SAYING, I WAS A DEMOCRAT, I WAS A CONSERVATIVE. 
          IF THIS WAS A POLITICAL THING, I'M SURE THE SUPERVISOR WOULD PASS THIS. 
          BUT END NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, WE HAD A 4 0 4 4 1. 
          SO IT'S NOT POLITICAL. 
          THERE'S NOTHING POLITICAL ABOUT THIS. 
          I WAS, I WAS HIRED BY THE TAXPAYERS TO WATCH OUT FOR. 
          WE'RE TALKING TO $14 MILLION. 
          WHO DO I PICK? DO I PICK THE SENIORS? DO I PICK, UH, THE, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT? DO I PICK THE HOCKEY PLAYERS? DO I PICK THE CITIZENS OF HERE? SO WE PUT THIS ON FOR A REFERENDUM. 
          WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL HAPPEN? I DON'T THINK IT'LL PASS. 
          SO I ASKED MR. MCDERMOTT TO BE PATIENT. 
          I SAID PHASE TWO WILL PROBABLY NOT GET DONE YET. 
          OKAY, SO THIS, AND I TOLD 'EM IF THEY VOTED IT DOWN, DON'T GET NERVOUS, WE WILL PUT IT ANOTHER BOTTOM FOR IT. 
          BUT WE HAVE A CONSENSUS, UM, A PRICE. 
          NOW I DECIDED AT THE TABLE IT THAT MY COLLEAGUES AGREED WITH ME. 
          THERE ARE TWO, TWO OTHER COLLEAGUES. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          INSTEAD OF KILLING IT. 
          AND I THOUGHT MAYBE THE SUPERVISOR MIGHT COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, LET'S FIND A HAPPY NEED. 
          BUT THEN HAPPY. 
          SO I'M NOT GONNA GET INTO POLITICS. 
          IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH POLITICS. 
          OKAY? WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BE STEWARDS OF THE TAXPAYERS. 
          BUT IF YOU THINK SAY PUTTING, I'M SORRY ANN, WE'RE WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SPEAKER. 
          UM, AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, THE 7.5 MILLION, IS THEY HAVING MEETINGS? JACKIE HAN, THAT'S YOUR OPINION. 
          OH, THAT'S, THAT WAS A LITTLE GIRL. 
          SHERRY. 
          OH, YOU'RE ALL SET. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT THEN TAKES CARE OF THE LIST. 
          THERE MORE. 
          THERE'S MORE . 
          I HAVE BEEN A HAW FOR THREE YEARS GOING INTO MY FOURTH. 
          I LOVE HOCKEY LIKE FOR ABOUT SEVEN YEARS. 
          I DO NOT WANNA LET GO OF THIS ORGANIZATION. 
          I FEEL LIKE YOU GUYS CAN HELP US JOIN IN AND PUT IN THE STUFF WE NEED. 
          WE CAN START PLAYING HOCKEY. 
          I HAVE ALL MY FRIENDS HERE. 
          I'VE MADE SO MANY MEMORIES AND I'VE HAD SO MANY GOOD STUFF HAPPEN. 
          IF WE LET THIS GO, I DON'T WANT IT TO. 
          I'VE BEEN PLUG IN FOR NOT ONLY THE HAWKS, BUT I'VE BEEN PLUG IN TO PROVE THAT LIKE, IF THIS DOES HAPPEN, ANYTHING WE COULD ALL SHUT DOWN. 
          SO IF YOU GUYS COULD HELP ME MAKE SAVES LIKE I MAKE ON THE ICE AND HELP US MAKE A SAVE FOR THE WORKING RESOLVED. 
          TOM ZIMMERMAN. 
          MY NAME IS TOM ZIMMERMAN. 
          I'M CHAIRMAN OF THE RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD. 
          UM, I'VE BEEN ON THAT BOARD FOR 33 YEARS AT THIS POINT AND I'VE BEEN THROUGH, I THINK THIS IS BEFORE REBUILD OF THE ICE CREAM. 
          AND I ALSO REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS FIRST DESIGNED OPEN. 
          I WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND THAT YOU DO NOT DIG ANYWHERE IN THE NIKE BASE. 
          SO IF YOU EVER WANTED TO HAVE OUR HILLSIDE OVER THERE, REVISIT IT, DIGGING IN THE NIKE BASE, WE'LL FIND, YOU'LL FIND SOME STUFF DOWN THERE THAT SHOULD BE LEFT WHERE IT IS. 
          WE'VE DONE A BUNCH OF WORK ALREADY WITH 
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BOTH PUBLIC AND TOWN SOCCER. 
          I WAS PART OF THE GROUP THAT DEVELOPED THE NIKE, THE SOCCER FIELDS ON THE NIKE BASE. 
          AND THAT WAS DONE IN CONSTRUCTION WITH THE OPERATING ENGINEERS DURING ALL WAS THE BILLY'S ENGINEER BACK THEN WHEN BILLY HAD ONE LAID IT ALL OUT. 
          THE OPERATING ENGINEERS WERE KIND ENOUGH TO COME OVER, GET ALL OF THE LANDSCAPING AND GRADING FOR IT. 
          SOCCER CLUB PAID FOR ALL THE GRASS, EVEN DOWN WATER. 
          IT, UH, IT HAS SINCE GROWN THE BIT FROM THAT WE EVENTUALLY MERGED YOUNG AMERICA STOCKER WITH DISTRICT FIVE TO BECOME MONITORS. 
          ONE OF THE IMPORTANT PARTS THAT THEY DIDN'T GIVE YOU WHEN YOU TOOK OFFICE WAS A CALENDAR. 
          WE ARE CRASHING THROUGH TIME RIGHT NOW. 
          THIS IS ALREADY THE END OF MARCH. 
          WE'VE GOTTA GET STARTED ON THE REPAIRS OF THE NIKE BASE. 
          WE WENT THROUGH A REAL PARING DOWN WHAT EVERYBODY WANTED TO, WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS THE LEAST WE COULD GET AWAY WITH AND NOT HAVE MARCHING OUT FROM STEPHANIE STILL HAVE. 
          BUT IN ANY EVENT, THIS, THE, THE BOND THAT WE'RE PROPOSING ON THIS REPRESENTED A COMPROMISE ALREADY FROM WHAT ADMITTEDLY WERE SOME REALLY WONDERFUL IDEAS JUST COULD NOT BE AFFORDED. 
          I'VE ALSO BEEN THROUGH A NUMBER OF PLANS WHERE WE LOOKED AT PARTNERSHIPS WITH OTHER ENTITIES IN DIFFERENT PLACES IN THE TOWN. 
          THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE RULED OUT COMPLETELY. 
          I DON'T THINK IT HAS ONE COST, BUT IT'S A LONG TERM PROJECT AND WE WILL NOT MAKE IT IN TIME FOR WHAT WE NEED DONE THIS YEAR. 
          WE ALREADY HAVE A BIGGER PROBLEM THAN THAT WITH THE SENIORS. 
          WE'LL ADDRESS THAT LATER. 
          BUT FOR THE NIKE BASE RIGHT NOW, WE NEED TO PROCEED ON THIS PROCESS. 
          ANY CHANGES THAT WE WANT TO DO ON IT ARE VERY NECESSARY. 
          I THINK IT'S PRETTY GENERAL AGREEMENT ON MOST OF, OF THE, UH, THAT'S A BOND THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN JUST SO THAT WE CAN GET THIS PROCESS UNDERWAY. 
          NOTHING YOU'RE DOING THERE RULES OUT ADDING ON SOMETHING AT A LATER POINT. 
          UH, YOU CANNOT BUILD ANYTHING ELSE DOWN HERE LIKE A HOTEL WITH A PRIVATE ENTITY BECAUSE IT'S PART LAND AND TRYING TO ABANDON PARTS. 
          IF YOU THINK OF GETTING ANYTHING DONE HERE, IT'S HARD. 
          TRY GOING THROUGH NEW YORK STATE TO ABANDON PARTIES. 
          IT'S JUST NOT WORTH FROM LEAST TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE RIGHT NOW. 
          WE NEED TO MAKE A MOVE ON THE NIKE BASE. 
          WE ARE JUST BARELY GOING TO GET THE SEASON STARTED ON TIME AND WE'RE ALREADY LOSING SUMMER CAMP FOR THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER ITEMS THAT PLAY ON THAT PROCESS IN THAT FIELD DOWN THERE. 
          BUT IF WE WANT TO HAVE THE ICE ARENA READY ON TIME, WE'VE GOTTA GET ROLLING ON THAT. 
          I BELIEVE THE LAST GAME IS ON THE 13TH. 
          LAST USE OF THE ICE. 
          AND WE'RE GONNA TRY STARTING BY THE 15TH OF APRIL ON THE PROJECT. 
          YEAH, IF, YEAH. 
          AND THEN IF WE START, IF WE START BY APRIL 15TH, WE SHOULD ADD AWAY BY SEPTEMBER. 
          IF YOU HAVE A CONTRACTOR THAT CAN ROLL ON TIME, THEY'RE ALREADY CODE RESERVE PERMIT. 
          I KNOW I WAS AT LAST MEETING, RON GERRA. 
          I'M FEW RESUMES. 
          I LIVED HERE FOR SOME YEARS. 
          UH, THIS ORGANIZATION MEANS A ECONOMY. 
          ME, A LOT OF THINGS HAVE COME OUT TODAY. 
          I DON'T WANNA REPEAT THEM. 
          POLITICS ASIDE, WE'VE MADE A LOT OF MISTAKES IN POLITICS. 
          WE MAKE A LOT OF MISTAKES IN HOCKEY. 
          WE THE MO TRIAL, WHAT OF THE STUFF WE SAY IN THE LOCKER BETWEEN PERIODS, WE'RE GONNA MAKE MISTAKES. 
          IT'S WHAT WE DO AFTER THE MISTAKE THAT COULD CHANGE THINGS. 
          LET'S NOT MAKE THAT MISTAKE AND HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE CHANGE IS GONNA BE LATER. 
          PLEASE. 
          ANOTHER THING IS WE WANT THE TA  BEAUTIFUL RAIN FACILITIES, BUT LET'S NOT RUN GOOD. 
          LET'S NOT MOVE SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE ALREADY PARENT TALKING ABOUT. 
          SO WE MIGHT WANNA GO BIGGER AND BETTER, BUT WE CAN MAKE SOMETHING REALLY GOOD TO KEEP IT FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO THAT'S ALL I GOTTA SAY. 
          GUYS ELSE LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THE ICE. 
          MR. , I HAVE A SHOP FOR EVERYBODY MADE IT AT ME, SO I'LL WORK ON THAT. 
          WE CAN'T STOP THIS PROCESS. 
          WE HAVE TO GET MECHANICAL DONE HERE. 
          THERE'S THERE ANY DELAYS IN THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. 
          WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR, WE HAVE THE EQUIPMENT, IT'S GOTTA GET DONE NO MATTER WHAT GOING FORWARD, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS WE CAN EXPLORE GOING 
          [02:55:01]
FORWARD. 
          NOW I TO SAY THIS, WE HAVE A A TOWN BUDGET THAT'S ROUGHLY $30 MILLION. 
          HOW MUCH ? 54. 
          OKAY, SO SEVEN AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS IS LIKE 15%. 
          OKAY, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY TALKING ABOUT HUGE CHUNK. 
          BUT HERE'S THE REALITY TAXES, THEY'RE ALWAYS GONNA GO UP. 
          PROVIDING BETTER FACILITIES WILL HELP THE TOWN. 
          IT IMPROVES OUR TOWN. 
          NOW I'M NOT SPEAKING TO THE TAXPAYERS GROUP. 
          I'M JUST SPEAKING TO THE TAXPAYER. 
          UNDERSTAND THERE'S GONNA BE A LITTLE PAIN INVOLVED, BUT LET'S SPREAD THE PAIN AROUND. 
          WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHATEVER THE COMPETITIVE PRICE FOR ICE IS. 
          EVERYBODY'S GONNA HAVE TO PAY THAT. 
          THE, THE GONNA HAVE TO PAY IT. 
          COLLEGE ARE GONNA HAVE TO PAY IT. 
          YOUTH LEAGUE ARE GONNA HAVE TO PAY IT. 
          WE CAN'T. 
          WE GOTTA SPREAD IT ON. 
          YOU'RE ASKING ME TO TAKE IT. 
          EVERYBODY TAKES A HIT AND THEN WE CAN, THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD THINKING ABOUT OTHER THINGS. 
          AND THE NEXT THING I WOULD LIKE, I I'M ASSUMING THAT THERE'S ALREADY BEEN STUDY ON THIS, BUT BUILDING A, AN ICE RINK AND SEEING WHAT WE CAN BRING IN THE WAY OF REVENUE TO TRY TO PAY OFF SOME OF THESE, SOME OF THIS DEBTS. 
          AND WE KNOW THERE'S A DEMAND FOR, FOR, FOR US. 
          YOU CAN'T , YOU BUILD A BIG WILL COME. 
          THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN PICK ABOUT GOING FORWARD. 
          ALSO, I'M AS A GRANDPARENT, I'M HORRIFIED THE IDEA OF YOUNG LADIES SEEING OLD MEN WEARING TOWELS RUNNING AROUND THE LOCKER ROOM. 
          THIS IS, I'M SCARRED, OKAY. 
          IT'S SOMETHING I CAN'T UNSEE, SO PLEASE, THAT'S WHAT I RECOMMEND. 
          SHOPPING. 
          WE GOTTA GO SOME WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET TO A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP. 
          THAT SEEMS TO BE THAT WE BEAT THAT HORSE AND THEY KNOW THAT'S IT. 
          BONES, NOW IT'S JUST A SKELETON. 
          WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T BEAT THAT DEAD HORSE ANY LONGER. 
          BUT WE CAN THINK ABOUT GETTING SOMETHING THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE A REVENUE SOURCE GOING FORWARD. 
          GET A SECOND SHEET OF ICE. 
          CAN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT THE SENIOR CENTER. 
          BUT LOOK, HEY, I'M NOT GONNA BE ON THE SCENE FOREVER. 
          YOU GOT 50 YEARS OUTTA THE LAST ICE CREAM, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET 50 YEARS OUT ME. 
          SO YOU MIGHT AS WELL BUILD THE RINK. 
          MAYBE THINK ABOUT BUILDING A SECOND. 
          PHASE THREE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          BE HEARD MS. DANIEL. 
          YES. 
          I UH, LIVE IN AMBER AND I ACTUALLY DIDN'T REALLY THINK I CARED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I HAD NO CHILDREN. 
          I'VE LIVED HERE FOR ABOUT 25 YEARS. 
          WHEN I HEAR THAT THE GIRLS DON'T HAVE A LOCKER ROOM, OKAY, NOW I'M P****D OFF. 
          OKAY, VIOLATION. 
          HOW DARE YOU TREAT YOUNG WOMEN LIKE THIS? WE VOTE TOO. 
          AND WE WILL REMEMBER HOW THESE, HOW YOU ARE GONNA VOTE ON THIS BECAUSE WOMEN DESERVE TO BE TREATED EQUALLY. 
          EVEN YOUNG LADIES LIKE THIS. 
          ANYBODY ELSE? YES MA'AM. 
          I'VE LEARNED I TO DEAL WITH ME, JESSICA. 
          I'M CANADA. 
          I DO NOT HAVE A CHILD PLAYING COCKY AND I AM NOT ANY ASSOCIATION THE HAWKS, BUT I AM A MOTHER OF FOUR. 
          I'M A PERSON WHO VOLUNTEERS A LOT OF MY TIME. 
          UM, DEALING WITH KIDS, MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAVE ACCESS TO PROGRAMMING AND ACTIVITIES WHERE THEY CAN CONNECT WITH OTHER YOUTH WITH ACTIVITIES THAT THEY FEEL JOY AND PASSION. 
          THAT'S WHERE THEY LEARN A LIFE LESSON. 
          THAT'S WHERE THEY LEARN RESILIENCE, THAT'S WHERE THEY LEARN PERSEVERANCE. 
          THEY LEARN THAT WHEN YOU GET KNOCKED DOWN, YOU GET BACK UP AGAIN. 
          YOU KEEP GOING. 
          AND I THINK THAT IT'S REALLY UPSETTING THAT FOR THE SECOND TIME IN AS MANY WEEKS WE HAVE KIDS HERE LOOKING AT ADULTS WHO ARE FAILING THEM. 
          LAST WEEK WE HAD THE NEWS AT THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING AND YOU HAVE KIDS TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE AN IMPACT ON THEIR LIVES AND THEY DON'T HAVE JOBS. 
          NOW THIS WEEK YOU HAVE KIDS TALKING ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THIS ARENA ON THEIR LIVES AND WE HAVE ADULTS LETTING KIDS DOWN. 
          MR. BOSKY, YOU TALKED ABOUT NOT CATERING TO ANY, UM, SPECIAL INTEREST GROUP. 
          WELL, I WOULD SAY THERE'S ONE SPECIAL INTEREST GROUP THAT WE SHOULD ALL CATER TO AND THAT'S OUR FUTURE. 
          SO IF THESE KIDS NEED THAT SPACE UPDATED SO THAT THEY CONTINUE TO PURSUE THEIR PASSION, THEIR DREAM, BUILD FRIENDSHIPS, MAKE CONNECTIONS, THEN THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAMBURG NEEDS TO DO BECAUSE YOU ARE SITTING HERE NOW, BUT THEY'LL BE SITTING HERE IN 30 YEARS. 
          WE NEED TO SET A GOOD EXAMPLE FOR THE FUTURE. 
          [03:00:04]
HELLO, MY NAME IS JESSICA ROSWELL. 
          I AM NOT A RESIDENT BUT I WAS A HAMBURG GRAD AND I AM THE OWNER OF SKATE GRADE THAT HAS BEEN A WONDERFUL PARTNER FOR THE TOWN OF . 
          I'M LIKE, I'M GOING TO BE THOSE. 
          UM, WE'VE BEEN PARTNERS WITH COUNTY AMBER FOR 20 YEARS NOW. 
          IT'S BEEN ABSOLUTELY AMAZING. 
          UM, IF YOU WALK INTO THE RINK AT ANY GIVEN WEDNESDAY YOU HAVE 160 MALE LIGHTS. 
          THEY'RE IN THAT LOBBY IN LIKE A TWO HOUR SPAN. 
          SO IF YOU WALK IN AT 5 45, THERE IS NO ROOM. 
          THERE'S SKATE BLADES EVERYWHERE. 
          PEOPLE HAVE BEEN STEPPED DOWN BY BLADES WITH THEIR FINGERS BECAUSE THERE'S LITERALLY NO SEATING AREA FOR 160 KIDS IN ONE NIGHT. 
          AND I WOULD SAY 75% OF THOSE ARE HAMMERED RESIDENTS. 
          SO THIS, WE HAVE HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF KIDS COME THROUGH PROGRAM ONE YEAR AND NOW THREE 20 I THINK YOUR KIDS YEAH, I KNOW. 
          YEAH, I SEE A LOT OF FACES OUT THERE. 
          A LOT OF THEM. 
          GREAT JOB. 
          YOU DO A GREAT JOB. 
          WELL THANK YOU. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UM, WE LOVE WHAT WE DO. 
          WE LOVE BEING OUT. 
          WE LOVE THE ICE THERE. 
          IT'S ALWAYS CLEAN. 
          WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UM, THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT. 
          YOU ARE GOING TO DO THE MIGUEL PART BECAUSE THIS YEAR WHEN WE HAD THE CANCELLATION, WHAT DO YOU DO? 160 FAMILIES? YOU KNOW, WE, WE JUST HAD TO KIND OF TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT. 
          UM, WE DID JUST HOST AN EVENT THIS WEEKEND AND IT BROUGHT IN PEOPLE FROM ERIE AND SYRACUSE AND  AND WE HAD NO SOUND SYSTEM BECAUSE IT WASN'T GOING TO BE FIXED BECAUSE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GET, YOU KNOW, THIS CAPITAL PROJECT GOING. 
          SO WE HAD NO SOUND SYSTEM. 
          SO THANKFULLY THE TOWN, THEY INTRODUCED ME, NO WHITE BROUGHT OUT SPEAKERS. 
          IT WAS NOT IDEAL. 
          IT HAD WORK, BUT IT WAS KIND OF EMBARRASSING WHEN YOU PEOPLE COME IN GAVE MONEY FOR THEIR REGISTRATION. 
          THE FAMILIES COULDN'T HEAR THE MUSIC, THEY COULDN'T HEAR THE ANNOUNCING. 
          IT WAS A QUICK FIX, ANOTHER BANDAID. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, THAT WAS EMBARRASSING. 
          UM, BUT WE MAY DO, AND WE ALSO HAD JUDGES. 
          I KNOW YOU WERE THERE WHEN I WAS SETTING UP AND THAT LITTLE GIRL CHEV, WE HAVE JUDGES COME IN WHO HAVE JUDGED IN THIS BOARD FOR 89 YEARS AND WE HAD TO STUFF THEM ALL IN THE OLD LITTLE SHOP ROOM THAT WAS A HOSPITALITY AND THERE WERE 12 OF 'EM IN THAT LITTLE TINY ROOM. 
          THAT WAS OUR AREA THAT WE COULD OFFER FOR THEM. 
          SO WE DON'T USE THE SHOWERS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE POPULATION OF THE SEVENTIES AND WHERE WE ARE NOW, IT'S CORONA EXPONENTIALLY AND AGAIN EVERY WEDNESDAY IF YOU WANNA COME OUT ON THE LINE, SAY WE'RE THERE, CHECK IT OUT. 
          IT IS THE INSANE IN THAT LOBBY. 
          SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR CONSIDERING YOU KNOW, THE BIGGER MINIMUMS, BUT I THINK THESE RESIDENTS DESERVE A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          AND JUDGING BY THE NUMBER OF FAMILIES I SEE WHEN I GO ANYWHERE IN HAMBURG, WE HAVE MADE A HUGE IMPACT. 
          AND I THINK THE NIKE S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT TO A LOT OF FAMILIES HERE. 
          I DON'T THINK YOU EVEN REALIZE HOW MANY, SO THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT, WELL I WOULD LIKE TO UM, GO. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          MY NAME'S ANDY HAN. 
          I LIVE IN SPRINGVILLE. 
          I DON'T LIVE IN HAMBURG, BUT I'M A BRICKLAYER AND I'M A HOCKEY DAD. 
          I HEAR EVERYTHING THAT IS HAPPENING HERE TONIGHT AND I'M TRYING TO EDUCATE MYSELF ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE BEST OF MY ABILITY. 
          I GREW UP IN ORCHARD PARK AND I DID DID PLAY AT LEISURELY AND THEY HAVE DONE SOME UPGRADES SINCE THE SEVENTIES. 
          NOT MANY, BUT THEY HAVE. 
          SO YOU'RE A LITTLE INCORRECT WHEN YOU SAID THEY HAVEN'T DONE ANY UPGRADES TO LOCKER ROOM WITH THE FACILITY. 
          THEY HAVE THE HAMMER HAWKS ORGANIZATION HAS BROUGHT MY FAMILY QUITE A LOT OF JOY. 
          THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR TWO YEARS. 
          THEY CAN'T WALK TO THE RINK WE LIVE IN SPRINGVILLE. 
          IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE THIS ORGANIZATION, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE THE CAMARADERIE SENSE OF TEAMWORK THAT THEY HAVE. 
          RIGHT? I DUNNO IF ANYONE REMEMBERS IN 1980, THE MIRACLE ON ICE WHEN THE UNITED STATES BEAT THE RUSSIANS TO GET INTO THE PLAYOFFS. 
          SO LANZA, THIS GROUP OF GIRLS RIGHT HERE, JUST WENT TO CANADA AND PLAYED IN A TOURNAMENT AND CAME OUT VICTORIOUS, WHICH IS UNHEARD OF. 
          THEY WENT TO CANADA, YOU KNOW, HOCKEY, THIRST SPORT KNEW IF IT WASN'T WITHOUT THE COACHES AND THE ORGANIZATION AND THE HAMBURG HAWKS, THAT WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED. 
          WHEN 
          [03:05:01]
I MOVED TO SPRINGVILLE AND WAS THINKING ON STARTING A FAMILY, THERE WAS TALK OF A SPORTS COMPLEX AND I GOT VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT, BUT THAT FELL THROUGH IT, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. 
          I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A IN-GROUND SWIMMING POOL AND A TENNIS COURT IN MY BACKYARD TOO. 
          BUT RIGHT NOW THE PLAN AND THE BUDGET IS TO PUT A DRIVEWAY AND BE ABLE TO PLAY BASKETBALL AND SHOOT ON A NET. 
          THAT'S WHAT MY BUDGET IS. 
          SO TO THINK ABOUT, WELL GIRLS, I'M NOT GONNA PUT A DRIVEWAY IN THIS YEAR. 
          THAT WOULDN'T BE FAIR THAT WE UNREALISTIC. 
          SO I WASN'T PLANNING ON SPEAKING TO NOAH, BUT I FELT I HAD ME TO EXPLAIN TO THE TUNNEL VISION THAT A COUPLE PEOPLE HAVE ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT OR WHAT THEIR DREAM INSTEAD OF THE REALITY OF WHAT IS RIGHT NOW. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK WE. 
          WE ALSO HAVE TO LIVE IN A BUDGET. 
          UH, MR. AL'S, UM, RESOLUTION IDEA, BELIEVE IS JUST TO, UH, GET A COMMITTEE STARTED. 
          NOBODY'S TALKING ABOUT EVEN IF THERE WAS AN ORGANIZATION OR SOME BIG ELABORATE PLACE, THERE'S NOTHING HAPPENING TO THE NIKE BASE. 
          WE'RE NOT THROWING AWAY ANYTHING. 
          SO, UM, AS I STATED BEFORE, MY PLANS ARE DOING PHASE ONE AND DOING PHASE TWO DOWN THE BELOW. 
          NOW IF THE SUPERVISOR WANTS TO TAKE THAT SEVEN AND HALF MILLION DOLLARS AND INCLUDE 2 MILLION WITH THE SENIOR CENTER, I'M OKAY WITH THAT. 
          THEY ARE DOWN THE ROAD ALREADY. 
          SO THE SENIOR CENTER, I SAID 2 MILLION TO THE SENIOR CENTER, SEVEN 50 FOR BOTH, FOR BOTH SENIOR CENTER AND THE HIGH. 
          SO, SO I, I'D LIKE TO TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND BECAUSE WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO. 
          I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT PHASE ONE IS PURCHASING EQUIPMENT, DOING SOME CONSTRUCTION, BUT NOT DOING THE SUPPORT WORK, THE ELECTRIC PLUMBING AND SO FORTH TO INSTALL THAT EQUIPMENT. 
          THAT'LL BE AN ADDITIONAL EXPENSE. 
          SO PHASE TWO CAN'T REALLY WAIT THAT LONG. 
          WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE EQUIPMENT ONCE IT ARRIVES. 
          I ALSO WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW WE GOT HERE BECAUSE THE EMAILS FROM THE AMBER COX FAMILIES, THERE'S BEEN DOZENS, PERHAPS EVEN 50 OR SIX EMAILS THAT I'VE RECEIVED. 
          AND I KNOW THAT A LOT OF YOU HAVE HAD RESPONSES FROM OUR BOARD MEMBERS AND SOME OF THOSE RESPONSES HAVE INCLUDED CALLING INTO QUESTION THE PREVIOUS BONDING IN 2020. 
          UM, SO I JUST WANT TO GO THROUGH EXACTLY WHAT WAS BONDED IN 2020 SO THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. 
          AND IF MS. ROBERTS, WE CAN PUT OUT THE SLIDE THAT I HAD PREPARED. 
          UM, SHE'S NOT EVEN THERE SHE IS. 
          SO IN 2020 THE TOWN OF HAMBURG FLOATED A BOND FOR $1.8 MILLION FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE NIKE BASE, THE ICE ARENA AND OTHER ASSOCIATED, UH, PARTS OF OF THAT THAT NIKE FACILITY COMPLEX. 
          I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN THE WORLD AT THAT TIME. 
          THIS WAS AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE GLOBAL PANDEMIC. 
          THAT WAS COVID. 
          PRICES WERE MUCH LOWER, THERE WERE SERIOUS SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES AND THERE WAS A GREAT UNCERTAINTY IN GOVERNMENT. 
          SO WHEN WE BOND, WE HAVE TO TELL THE BONDING AGENCIES AND THE BOND MARKETS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO WITH THAT MONEY. 
          SO INCLUDED IN THAT BOND RESOLUTION WAS TO USE MONEY FOR A PARKING LOT ON THE ICE ARENA SIDE. 
          THERE WAS APPROVED BY THE BOARD THAT WAS IN PLACE ON MAY 3RD, 2021. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER FARRELL RENTS WAS ON THAT BOARD, BUT THE OTHER FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE NOT. 
          THERE WAS A PROJECTING OFF OF $300,000 AND THE ACTUAL COST OF $204,916, CERTAINLY NOT TOO MUCH OF AN NO ROOM. 
          THE PARKING LOT OF UPON ACCEPTED, WHICH IS APPROVED IN AUGUST 15TH, 2022, THE PROTECTED COST OF $260,000, BUT THE ADMIRAL COST WAS $352,495, AN INCREASE OF $92,500. 
          THE SEPTIC SYSTEM, WE KNEW THAT WAS AN ISSUE IN THE BOND. 
          WE THOUGHT $40,000 WOULD COVER IT. 
          IT ACTUALLY COST $247,054. 
          THE DRAINAGE, WE CAUGHT A BREAK. 
          WE THOUGHT 90 WOULD DO THE JOB PAYMENT AS 63 9 9 8. 
          WHAT WASN'T INCLUSION WAS FIRE ALARMS. THAT WAS NOT MENTIONED IN BOND. 
          BUT BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE BOND WAS WORDED, WE DID HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE THAT MONEY. 
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WE HAD NO FIRE ALARMS AT THE ICE CLINIC. 
          THERE WAS A TRAGEDY WAITING TO HAPPEN. 
          THE BOARD AUTHORIZED THE EXPENDITURE. 
          THERE WAS NOTHING BUDGETED OF COURSE, BUT WE CHARGED THAT BOND. 
          $43 $800. 
          WHAT WASN'T INCLUDED WITH NO DOLLAR AMOUNT COMMITMENT WAS EXPENSIVE. 
          THAT CAME IN AT $21,000. 
          WHAT WAS NOT INCLUDED WAS DESIGN. 
          WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING OUTBREAKS IN THE ICE ARENA, BUT THERE WAS NO FORETHOUGHT TO PUT ANYTHING TOWARDS DESIGN. 
          AND THOSE COSTS WERE SIGNIFICANT AT $470,291. 
          THE PHASE ONE PLAN WITH 124 930 $2 A P BILLION, WE SPENT $4,276. 
          THE TOTAL PROJECTED COST WAS $590,000, BUT THE ACTUAL COST WAS $1,000,532 OR $988 NINE, ALMOST $950,000 MORE THAN WE THOUGHT, MORE THAN WE BOND WAS GOING DOWN IT 159% INCREASE. 
          THAT BOND WAS TAKEN OUT $1.8 MILLION AND WAS HOPING TO ACCOMPLISH A LOBBY REMODEL OF 175,000 LOCKER ROOMS AT 150 SHELTER AND SNACK SHACK 110 NEW PRESSURE, ONE 50 RESTROOM AND SHELTER TWO 50 AND BACK ROOM TOWER 75 CHILLING TANKS AT 105 CONTROLS 400. 
          THOSE NUMBERS ARE ANCIENT AND NOT EVEN WITHIN THE BALLPARK OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO COST TODAY. 
          SO THERE WAS $1.4 MILLION INCLUDED IN THAT, THAT THAT WASN'T DONE. 
          AND THESE ARE 2019 EARLY 2020 NUMBERS. 
          THERE'S SIGNIFICANTLY MORE. 
          TODAY WE NEED TO DO MORE THAN SIMPLY BUY THE EQUIPMENT. 
          WE NEED TO INSTALL IT. 
          WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CONNECTED TO THE RIGHT UTILITIES. 
          WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PING AND THE SLAB UNDER THE ICE IS GOING TO BE SAFE AND EFFECTIVE FOR THE NEXT 25 AND 30 YEARS. 
          SO I WANTED TO CLEAR THE AIR ON WHAT WAS TAKEN OUT IN 2020 AND WHAT WAS SPENT IN 2020. 
          THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY LEFT IN THAT BOND THAT WE CAN USE FOR. 
          SO , ABSOLUTELY THE 2.2 MILLION THAT WAS INCLUDED FOR PHASE ONE IS WE GONNA CUT IT. 
          IT IS NOT GONNA DO WHAT WE NEED DONE AT THIS FACILITY. 
          AND HONESTLY, I BELIEVE THAT WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS IS ASKING FOR IN A FULL 7.5 IS CERTAINLY NOT TOO MUCH TO ASK AND THATBUT MY ON THE BOARD TO CONTRIBUTE TO ANY DISCUSSION BEFORE TAKE ALL, UM, I BELIEVE I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH PEOPLE REGARDING THE CONCRETE, THE PIPING GAUGE BADGE, CONDENSERS. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHO BACK THEN PRIORITIZED WHAT THE NEEDS WERE. 
          BUT IF THE NEEDS WERE LOCKER ROOMS, THEN WHY THE HECK IN THE LOCKER ROOM WAS THERE? YOU KNOW, I MEAN, SO NOW IT'S PUSHED TO US. 
          SO NOW YOU WANT, YOU, YOU WANNA SAY THAT IF WE DON'T DO THIS, THAT EARTH'S GONNA END. 
          YOU HAD OPPORTUNITY IN NOVEMBER, DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR BEFORE I EVEN, UH, GOT ELECTED TO TAKE CARE OF THIS PROBLEM. 
          YOU COULD HAVE BONDED IT THEN WHEN YOU HAD THE UH, MAJORITY, YOU GOT FOUR VOTES. 
          I HEARD PEOPLE TALKING TO POLITICS AND POLITICS. 
          YOU HAD, YOU HAD TO VOTE BACK THEN TO DO WHATEVER YOU WANTED TO. 
          YOU DID. 
          AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHY I GOT ELECTED TO SIT HERE AND WATCH AND WATCH THE MONEY AND MAKE SURE IT'S BETTER RUN. 
          I MAY OVER AND OVER AGAIN. 
          THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A WASTE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS. 
          WHAT THAT MONEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN USED FOR IS INSTEAD OF FIXING THE PARKING LOT, IS FIXING THE COMPRESSOR IS THAT'S WHAT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE. 
          THAT'S WHAT IT ALLOCATED FOR. 
          NOW YOU GO BACK TO THE WALL ONLY SO MANY TIMES AND PEOPLE DON'T WANT THEIR TAXES TO GO UP. 
          THERE WAS A YOUNG LADY THAT SPOKE ABOUT HAMBURG SCHOOLS, HAMBURG SCHOOLS IN THE PREDICAMENT THAT HAMBURG SCHOOLS IS IN AND LAYING OFF OVER A DOZEN TEACHERS BECAUSE OF FINANCIAL MISMANAGEMENT. 
          SO MR. HOPE YOU HAVE THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD, THAT MONEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED FOR WHAT IT WAS DESIGNED TO DO, WHICH WAS TO FIX THE RATE. 
          FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WE CANNOT KEEP RAISING TAXES. 
          PEOPLE ARE LEAVING NEW YORK, THEY LEAVE IN DROVES BECAUSE THEY'RE TIRED OF THEIR TAXES GOING UP. 
          PEOPLE TELL ME OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THAT'S WHY THEY'VE OTHERED FROM ME. 
          THEY DON'T WANT THEIR TAXES TO GO UP. 
          WE WANT TO PUT THESE IMPROVEMENTS INTO THE, INTO THE ARENA, BUT BECAUSE YOU SQUANDERED THE MONEY THAT YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO SPEND NOW ON US , OH MY, WELL WHAT ABOUT THE 1 MILLION THAT YOU GUYS DECIDED NOT TO GO FOR, FOR THAT WAS GONNA BE USED FOR THE RUN BUTTON. 
          DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO BE USED FOR THE RUN BUTTON. 
          NOW WE DON'T WANNA GO FOR THAT $1 MILLION. 
          WHAT ABOUT THAT? SO WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA GO, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO MOVE CLOSER TO, TO VOTE ON TOPIC. 
          UM, BUT BEFORE WE DO 
          [03:15:01]
THAT, I'D LIKE TO GIVE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER  AND GENERAL, I JUST WANNA SAY THIS BY TIME ON THE BOARD AND I'VE CLARIFY, LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS. 
          CONSULTED COUNCIL MEMBER, FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER CONLEY, TALKED WITH MANY OF THE DEPARTMENT CHAIRS THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT AND MANY OF THE CONCERNED RESIDENTS. 
          ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT. 
          I WANNA CLARIFY LIKE PHASE ONE, THE PLAN WITH 124,000, THAT'S ACTUALLY ALSO THE SAME AS THE COMPRESSOR. 
          WHEN I TALKED TO COUNCIL MEMBER, FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER CONLEY, HE HAD SUGGEST OR DISCUSSED WITH ME THAT THE COMPRESSOR, THE NEW COMPRESSOR THAT WAS 150,000 PLAN AND GET A TOGETHER TO INSTALL A COMPRESSOR. 
          YOU'RE NOT GONNA PUT IN A MILLION DOLLAR PIECE OF EQUIPMENT WITHOUT A SIGNIFICANT PLAN IN PLACE TO INSTALL IT CORRECTLY AND MAKE SURE IT'S DONE RIGHT. 
          YOU DON'T WANNA SPEND THAT KIND OF MONEY AND THEN WASTE IT BECAUSE WE CUT A CORNER SOMEWHERE. 
          SO REALLY IF YOU LOOK AT A PHASE ONE PLAN REALLY COULD BE PART OF THAT NEW COMPRESSOR AND IT PUTS YOU EVEN LOWER OVER BUDGET. 
          UM, WHILE WE'RE ADDED THE DESIGN PLAN, I WAS HERE WHEN WE WERE WORKING ON THE DESIGN PLAN. 
          TRUST ME, WE TALKED ABOUT TWO ICE RINGS. 
          WE FLOATED THAT IDEA. 
          I REMEMBER ME AND EVEN COUNCIL MEMBER LORENCIA WERE TALKING LIKE, YES, WE THREW EVERYTHING AT THE WALL OF EVERY DREAM WE HAD FOR THAT ARENA. 
          AND WHEN THEY CAME BACK WITH THE NUMBERS, I THINK EVERY SINGLE ONE WAS ON THE BOARD AT THAT TIME, OUR JAW DROPPED AND WE WENT BACK AND SAID, OKAY, THIS IS KIND OF LIKE WHEN WE'RE REMODELING AT HOME. 
          YOU MAKE THAT DREAM LIST, YOU'RE DOING THE KITCHEN, YOU PUT IN ALL THE TRIMS AND ALL THE THINGS YOU'VE SEEN, AND THEN THE CONTRACTOR COMES AFTER THE NUMBER AND YOU'RE LIKE, HOW WOULD WE TALK THIS TO STOVE? HOW WOULD WE, HOW WOULD YOU WANT THAT? MAYBE WE'LL JUST PAINT THE CABINETS. 
          THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT FOLKS. 
          WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THE MECHANICS IN LINE AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT SO THAT IT IS A SUSTAINABLE PROGRAM FOR OUR KIDS FOR THE FUTURE. 
          THAT'S WHAT THAT 400,000 WAS SPENT FOR. 
          WE REALIZED WHEN CONTRACTORS AND THE ARCHITECTS WERE COMING BACK WITH PLANS THAT WERE WILDLY BEYOND WHAT WE KNEW WE COULD AFFORD, THAT'S WHEN WE SAID, OKAY, HELP US MAKE A PLAN WE CAN ACHIEVE AND WE CAN ROLL OUT IN A VERY MANNERED, VERY MEASURED APPROACH OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, BREAK IT INTO PHASES, SMALL CHUNKS THAT WE AS A COMMUNITY CAN HANDLE, TOLERATE. 
          AND WE'LL HAVE MINIMAL NEGATIVE IMPACT TO ALL OF THOSE INVOLVED. 
          SO I WANT YOU TO KNOW NONE OF US UP HERE THAT ARE TAKING THIS LIGHTLY, NONE OF US UP HERE ARE THINKING THIS IS A QUICK SOLUTION. 
          BUT THERE HAS BEEN EXTENSIVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW TO RUN THIS PROJECT, WHAT TO DO. 
          AND WE HAVE EXPLORED DEEPLY TO RANKS. 
          WE HAVE EXPLORED DEEPLY. 
          I COACH, YOU KNOW THAT AS WELL AS ANYONE FRANK. 
          I WANTED EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN. 
          AND I REALIZED, OKAY, MAYBE WE'RE GETTING BATHROOMS THIS TIME. 
          MAYBE WE'RE GETTING A LOCKER ROOM FOR THE GIRLS. 
          WE'RE GONNA CHECK OFF THE MUST HAVES. 
          THE NEEDS ARE COMING FIRST, THE WANTS COME SOUTH. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT THIS PROJECT REPRESENTED WAS THE LIST OF NEEDS, NOT THE WANTS. 
          I HAVE A LOT I'D LIKE TO SAY, BUT I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HEARD QUITE A BIT FROM, FROM MANY, MANY PEOPLE, BUT THERE WERE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT COMMENTS I WOULD LIKE TO JUST TOUCH UPON. 
          UM, ONE RECENTLY WAS THAT THERE WAS NO THOUGHT TO PLANNING. 
          WELL, I WOULD ACTUALLY COUNTER THAT AND SAY THAT WHEN WE FIRST BONDED FOR THE $2 MILLION FOUR YEARS AGO, THERE WAS A LOT OF THOUGHT, AS HAS BEEN SAID. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, SEAN CONNOLLY, WHO WAS ON THE BOARD AT THE TIME, PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT. 
          HE WAS OUR NUMBERS PERSON. 
          HE WAS VERY WELL VERSED IN EVERYTHING. 
          HE PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT ALONG WITH OUR ENGINEERING CONSULTANT CAN. 
          GERALD, THEY WORKED ON THIS EXTENSIVELY. 
          WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY IN 2020 BONDING. 
          AT THAT POINT, IT WAS AT 0.75%. 
          SO UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE BEING CAUTIOUS. 
          NOBODY HAS SAID NO. 
          THAT'S THE INTERESTING PART. 
          IT'S PEOPLE CALL ME AND SAY, YOU SAID NO, NO ONE SAID NO. 
          WE'RE TAKING TIME TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE. 
          AND THERE ARE MANY THINGS TO CONSIDER. 
          WHEN SEAN CONNOLLY AND, AND GERALD AND OTHERS STARTED, UH, LOOKING AT BONDING IN 2020, ACTUALLY PRIOR TO THAT, BECAUSE IT WAS A LENGTHY PROCESS, AS I SAID, INTEREST RATES WERE 0.753. 
          THEY PUT A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY INTO CONCERNING WHAT NEEDED TO BE DONE. 
          AND AS THE SUPERVISOR WENT OVER THAT LIST INCLUDED LOCKER ROOMS BECAUSE WE SAID THEY WERE IMPORTANT, AND HE PLANNED FOR THAT. 
          HE PLANNED EACH ONE OF THESE ITEMS ALONG WITH OUR ENGINEER AND CAME UP WITH NUMBERS. 
          SO YES, WE ARE TAKING SOME TIME RIGHT NOW TO ASK QUESTIONS BECAUSE WE DID BOND FOR $2 MILLION AND IT DEFINITELY DID NOT ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE SET OUT TO ACCOMPLISH. 
          SO OF COURSE, THERE'S GOING TO BE QUESTIONS ASKED. 
          OF COURSE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE CONCERNS, AND I AM GOING TO BE 
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SEEKING FOR THERE TO BE CERTAIN, UM, UH, GUARANTEES OF ASSURANCES ALONG THE WAY THIS TIME, BECAUSE I, AS I HAVE SAID TO MANY PEOPLE IN AN EMAIL, I WAS VERY CONCERNED THAT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE TOP PRIORITIES WITH THAT 2 MILLION AND WERE CAREFULLY PLANNED FOR BY COUNCILMAN COMMONLY, AND OUR ENGINEER ENDED UP NOT HAPPENING. 
          THERE WERE ITEMS. AND SO WHEN YOU SAID THAT I DIDN'T DO MY RESEARCH, ACTUALLY, THAT'S ALL I'VE DONE FOR THE LAST TWO WEEKS. 
          STARTING THAT FIRST NIGHT WHEN I MET WITH DIRECTOR GILMAN, UH, JILLIAN GORMAN, KING AND COUNCILWOMAN, UM, , WE WERE HERE TILL 11 O'CLOCK THAT NIGHT. 
          AND THAT'S ALL I'VE DONE. 
          AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE DONE SINCE, IS TO CONTINUE TO RESEARCH THIS TOPIC. 
          AND THERE WAS MANY QUESTIONS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT CONVERSATION THAT WAS CONCERNING FOR ME BECAUSE AS I'VE TALKED TO PEOPLE, THERE WERE MORE QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS. 
          SO JUST FROM WHAT, AND, AND WE STARTED BY ASKING FOR, UM, A LISTING OF HOW THAT 2 MILLION HAD BEEN SPENT. 
          AND DIRECTOR KING GOT THAT TO US. 
          AND IT ENDS UP, THERE WERE THINGS ON THAT LIST THAT ACTUALLY WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE LIST. 
          SO WE'VE SPENT TWO WEEKS CORRECTING THAT, WORKING WITH OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR, LOOKING AT THE ITEMS THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO BE ASSIGNED TO THAT BOND, AND THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ASSIGNED TO THAT BOND. 
          AND SO THE AMOUNT THAT WE STILL HAVE TO USE HAS ACTUALLY GONE UP, WHICH IS A GOOD THING. 
          BUT THAT CAME OUT OF RESEARCH THAT CAME OUT OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED. 
          HE SAID THAT WHEN HE WAS WANED, YOU VOTED FOR EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE EXPENDITURES. 
          AND HE SAYS IT WAS QUANDER. 
          I DID NOT SAY IT WAS SQUANDER. 
          WELL THEN TELL HIM IT WASN'T SQUANDERED. 
          I'M GONNA SPEAK FOR MYSELF, BUT I'M TRYING TO RIGHT NOW, HAVE A FEW DID VOTE. 
          I DID NOT VOTE. 
          I DID NOT VOTE FOR ALL OF 'EM. 
          NO. 
          UM, AS WE LAID THIS OUT WITH COUNCIL MEMBER CONNOLLY, A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, AS YOU CAN SEE THE ITEMS THAT WERE THERE, HE DID NOT PULL THOSE ITEMS, THOSE AMOUNTS OUT OF THE HAT. 
          HE PUT A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY THERE. 
          SO OF COURSE, WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS NOW. 
          UM, WE ALSO HAD SOME ITEMS THAT WERE OVER AND USED IN OUR ARPA ACCOUNT, ARPA ACCOUNTS. 
          OVERALL, THE PICTURE, WHAT WE WANT TO DO NOW IS WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING THE MOST POSSIBLE RIGHT NOW FOR THIS PROJECT AND BONDING THE LEAST AMOUNT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A LOT OF OTHER CONCERNS IN THE TOWN. 
          WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER PROJECTS, AND HERE TONIGHT, WE HAVE REPRESENTED THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE USING THE NIKE SITE. 
          AND THAT'S TERRIFIC. 
          WE ALWAYS LOVE TO HEAR FROM OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS. 
          IF YOU COME ON ANOTHER NIGHT, I'VE BEEN HERE, THIS IS NOW MY SEVENTH YEAR. 
          SO I WILL TELL YOU THAT I'VE ALSO BEEN HERE WHEN I'M SEEING THE SENIOR CITIZENS SITTING IN THE FRONT ROW WHO HAVE BEGGED US TO NEVER RAISE THEIR TAXES, BEGGED US. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I, AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BALANCE ALL OF THOSE CONCERNS. 
          SO WE'RE DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE WITH THE NUMBERS, WITH THE FIGURES, WITH THE RESEARCH. 
          THINGS LIKE WHEN THIS WAS AWARDED IN SEPTEMBER AND THE RESOLUTION SAID IT'LL BE PAID BY MONEY TO BE BO BONDED IN THE FUTURE. 
          THERE WAS NO FUNDING SOURCE. 
          I'VE BEEN IN THE BONDING PROCESS BEFORE. 
          WE IDENTIFIED THINGS FIRST AND THEN WENT TO BONDING. 
          SO THE PROCESS THIS TIME UNFOLDED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. 
          SO I HAD QUESTIONS. 
          UM, WE ONLY HAD ONE BID. 
          OTHER TIMES WHEN WE ONLY HAD ONE BID. 
          WE WENT OUT AND REBID IT WHEN I ASKED FOR THOSE DOCUMENTS BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T ATTACHED AT THE TIME TO THE RESOLUTION. 
          WHAT I GOT, AND I'M STILL WAITING FOR SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. 
          AGAIN, I'VE BEEN DOING THE RESEARCH. 
          UM, I RECEIVED A ONE PAGE WITH HANDWRITTEN NUMBERS WRITTEN IN. 
          SO YES, I'M ASKING ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. 
          UM, WE HAVE PASSED A NUMBER OF TIMES ON OTHER OPPORTUNITIES, AND THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY IN THE FUTURE, BUT I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE ORGANIZATIONS HERE HAVE, UH, UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE TIMES WHEN WE, UM, LOOKED AT OTHER OPTIONS, THEY WERE PART OF THAT, THEY WERE PART OF NOT WANTING IT OR, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN, UM, RAISING THE QUESTIONS THAT NEEDED TO BE RAISED AT THAT, THAT TIME. 
          WE'RE RAISING QUESTIONS NOW, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I ASKED PREVIOUSLY WAS ABOUT IF WE ALREADY HAVE THE LETTERS OF AGREEMENT AND THE LETTERS OF INTENT IN THE ORGANIZATION THAT WOULD, USING THE FACILITY GOES TO MR. GUCCI'S QUESTION, WHICH I THINK, I THINK A LOT OF WHAT YOU SAID WAS SPOT ON. 
          IT'S NOT A LOT OF TIMES WHAT WE'RE DOING IS ABOUT HOW WE'RE DOING IT, BUT YOU MANY TIMES TALK RIGHT TO AND TALK ABOUT HOW WE DO IT AND MAKE A LOT OF GOOD COMMON SENSE. 
          AND THAT'S VERY, VERY TRUE. 
          AND I ASKED ABOUT THOSE AND, AND BECAUSE THE LAST TIME WE EMBARKED ON, ON LOOKING AT DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS WAS BEFORE I WAS ON THE BOARD, ONE OF 
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THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED IS THAT THERE WERE, THERE WAS ONE LETTER OF INTENT THAT COULD NOT BE SECURED, AND I THINK IT WAS FROM THE HAMPER HAWKS. 
          SO I KNOW I ASKED THIS TIME, DO WE HAVE THOSE LETTERS OF INTENT? DO HAVE WE HAD CONVERSATIONS? DO THE ORGANIZATIONS UNDERSTAND HOW THIS MIGHT AFFECT THE FEE SCHEDULE? I'VE ASKED THE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE OFFSETS SO THAT WE COULD TRULY UNDERSTAND THE FULL PICTURE AND THE RAMIFICATIONS FOR OUR TAXPAYERS. 
          AND I COULD GO ON AND ON THE OFFSETS WHERE, UM, THE MECHANICS SHOULD LEAD, NEED LESS, UM, MAINTENANCE IN THE GIVEN YEAR. 
          HOW CAN WE TRACK THAT? WHAT CAN WE DO SO THAT WE'RE CAPTURING THOSE, UM, THOSE OFFSETS, THOSE, UH, WHAT WOULD BE ON THE PLUS SIDE, IF WE ARE GOING TO DO BIG TICKET CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS THIS, WE NEED TO TRACK THAT THIS TIME. 
          WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          AND IT NEEDS TO BE PART OF WHAT WE CAN COME BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND TALK TO 'EM ABOUT. 
          COME BUDGET TIME WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT NOT ONLY THE TAX INCREASE FROM A PROJECT SUCH AS THIS AND THE OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE, WE'RE BEING ASKED TO BOND AND OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE HORIZON, BUT ALSO JUST THE YEAR TO YEAR DEMAND ON THE BUDGET AND INCREASES THAT WE SEE. 
          AND OUR DEPARTMENTS, OUR COMMUNITY, OUR TOWN BOARDS HAVE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY OVER THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP THOSE YEAR TO YEAR TAX INCREASES IN LINE. 
          BUT THAT'S IN ADDITION TO WHAT YOU WILL SEE FROM THESE BONDS. 
          SO YES, I ASKED FOR MORE TIME TO ASK QUESTIONS. 
          MUCH OF, MUCH OF THE INFORMATION I GOT I THOUGHT WAS, DIDN'T HAVE THE INFORMATION I WOULD'VE ANTICIPATED. 
          LIKE WHEN I ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT THE 2 MILLION THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY BONDED, LIKE WHEN I ASKED ABOUT THE LETTERS OF INTENT AND LETTERS OF AGREEMENT, UM, THERE WAS ONE COMMENT MADE ABOUT POLITICS, WEALTH. 
          I SPENT MY ENTIRE LIFE WORKING WITH YOU AND IN HUMAN SERVICES AND MENTAL HEALTH. 
          SO NO, POLITICS HAVE NEVER AND WILL NEVER PLAY A PART IN MY DECISION MAKING. 
          BUT WHAT WILL PLAY A PART IS GOOD DECISION MAKING. 
          I HAVE TO LOOK FOR THE INFORMATION, I HAVE TO LOOK FOR THE NUMBERS. 
          I WAS DISAPPOINTED IN SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I FOUND OUT ALONG THE WAY REGARDING THAT $2 MILLION BOND. 
          SO I AM BEING VERY CAUTIOUS. 
          I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S SOME SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE. 
          I WAS CONCERNED BY SOME OF WHAT I SAW IN TERMS OF THE RESPONSES AND, UM, THE WAY THE, UM, COMMENTS WERE IN AWARD LETTERS ABOUT, UH, UM, RATHER THAN THERE BE A SEQUENCE TO THE PHASING, THERE WAS, UH, THINGS IN PHASE TWO THAT WERE PHASE ONE THAT WERE PREDICATED BY PHASE TWO. 
          SO YES, I WOULD, AGAIN, I WAS ASKING, ASKING QUESTIONS. 
          UM, WE ALSO HAVE HAD PREVIOUSLY OUR B AND G DEPARTMENT HAS SUGGESTED THAT THERE'S A LOT OF THE WORK THAT THEY COULD ASSIST WITH. 
          WE WANNA TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. 
          GOING BACK AT SOMEWHAT EARLY TO THE LETTERS OF INTENT AND UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT OUR INCREASED REVENUE WILL BE. 
          I TALKED WITH, UH, THE CURRENT DIRECTOR OF  SENIOR SERVICES AND THE PREVIOUS DIRECTOR ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES FOR OTHER, UM, REVENUE THAT MIGHT BE, UH, ABLE TO BE RAISED. 
          AND WE, AND WE NEED TO ACTIVELY PURSUE THAT AND MONITOR AND TRACK THAT. 
          AND I WAS ALSO CONCERNED BECAUSE WHILE ALL OF YOU ARE HERE REPRESENTING MANY, UH, ORGANIZATIONS THAT UTILIZE THE FACILITY, I'VE ALSO BEEN CONTACTED BY ORGANIZATIONS THAT UNFORTUNATELY CAN NO LONGER CALL THE NIKE SITE THEIR HOME. 
          AND I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE DO THERE, THIS FACILITY IS FOR EVERYONE THAT WOULD LIKE, LIKE TO USE IT IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          SO I APPRECIATE EVERYONE WHO'S HERE THIS EVENING. 
          I HOPE FROM WHAT YOU SAID, YOU UNDERSTAND THAT NO ONE ALONG THE WAY SAID NO. 
          WE'VE BEEN VERY CONCERNED FOR YEARS PRIOR BOARDS, UM, THE TIME THAT I'VE BEEN HERE, WE HAVE LOOKED AT THE NIKE SITE AS, UM, A FACILITY THAT HOLDS A LOT OF POTENTIAL. 
          I HAVE SEEN THE, UM, INCLUSIONARY PLAYGROUND GO IN. 
          WE HAVE ADDED FIELDS, WE SAW, UH, FUNDING SO WE CAN ADD BATHROOMS, BUT NOT JUST AT THE NIKE SITE. 
          WE HAVE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN IMPROVING YOUTH SERVICES IN OUTER COMMUNITY AND THE FACILITIES. 
          AND IT TAKES A LOT OF PLANNING AND WE DO HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL WITH HOW WE PLAN THE MONEY THAT IS SPENT AND MAKING SURE THAT 7.5 MILLION, OUR CONCERN IS THAT WE THINK THERE MIGHT BE OTHER WAYS THAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THIS WITH LESS THAN A $7.5 MILLION BOND BECAUSE THE INTEREST RATE IS EXTREMELY HIGH, EXTREMELY HIGHER. 
          AND THAT MAY BE FOR 25 YEARS. 
          WHO'S TO SAY WHAT ELSE IS GOING TO COME UP IN THE NEXT 25 YEARS? SO RIGHTLY SO, WE ARE ASKING QUESTIONS AND WE ARE LOOKING TO MAYBE HAVE A MORE, UM, SCALED DOWN APPROACH AND HAVE SOME OF THESE 
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QUESTIONS MORE FIRMLY ANSWERED AND HAVE A PLAN REGARDING THE OFFSETS AND THE OTHER THINGS WE'VE ANTICIPATE THAT WILL HELP US MEET THE DEMANDS OF THE INTERESTS THAT WILL HAVE TO BE PAID ON ANY TYPE OF BOND THAT WE SECURE. 
          MOTION. 
          IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT A PASSING OF BOND RESOLUTION REQUIRES A SUPER MAJORITY OF TOWN BOARD. 
          66% WOULD REQUIRE FOUR YES VOTES. 
          I MAKE MOTION TO TAKE A TWO MINUTE BREAK, PLEASE. 
          I SECOND THAT MOTION. 
          I'LL SECOND THE MOTION TAKE. 
          WE MOTION TO TAKE A TWO MINUTE BREAK AND THE SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER RUSKI. 
          ALL IN FAVOR OF TAKING A TWO MINUTE BREAK. 
          SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ALL OPPOSED? NO. 
          WE'RE TAKING A TWO MINUTE BREAK. 
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WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THIS NON RESOLUTION. 
          SECOND, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL FOR A ROLL CALL SUPERVISOR. 
          HOKE? YES. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER KOMBERG? YES. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER BOSKY? NO. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER FAR. 
          LAUREN? I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US COME BACK NEXT TIME AND INCORPORATE BUYING THEM. 
          AND WE, IT'S NOT SAYING NO, BUT WE NEED TO DO IT AT A DIFFERENT AMOUNT AND COMBINED WITH THE COMMUNITY CENTER. 
          SO NO. 
          DOES THAT INTRODUCING NO  COUNCIL MEMBER ? NO. 
          AND FAILED MOTION. 
          FRANK, YOU GUYS, I LADIES, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DON'T VOTE THE MEMBER VOTES. 
          YOU THINK IF WE PUT IT UP FOR A REFEREND TAX, IT WOULD THINK IT WILL. 
          SO THIS WILL BRING US TO ITEM NUMBER THREE ON THE SAME PAGE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UH, I WILL LIKE TO PULL ITEMS 34 AND 35 SECOND NOW, JUST NOT ITEMS, RIGHT. 
          SO THAT BRINGS US TO NUMBER THREE. 
          HOW ABOUT YEAH, WE CAN DO SENIOR SEVEN 30. 
          OKAY, WE'LL GIVE ROOM 32. 
          WE HAVE TO GO THE AGENDA. 
          I I I WITHDRAWAL RESOLUTION FOR ITEM NUMBER 31 AS WELL AS ITEMS NUMBER, UM, 34 AND 35, WHICH BRINGS US TO RESOLUTION NUMBER 32. 
          RESOLVED THAT HENRY TOWN BOARD IS HEREBY REMOVED FROM THE TABLE. 
          ITEM NUMBER FIVE ON THE JUDGMENT FROM THE TOWN BOARD MEETING OF MARCH 11TH, 2024. 
          IN TOTAL NON RESOLUTION SENIOR CENTER AS FOLLOWS, BY RESOLUTION OF THE TOWN BOARD TOWN IN HAMBURG, JURY COUNTY, NEW YORK AUTHORIZED THE CONSTRUCTION RENOVATIONS AND OPERATIONS FROM NEW SENIOR CENTER TO STATE THE MAXIMUM COMMAND COST THERE UP $2 MILLION APPROPRIATING SET OUT THERE FOR AND AUTHORIZED INSTRUMENT OF 2 MILLION. 
          CONSIDER BOND THE TOWN FINANCE APPROPRIATION, WHEREAS THE TOWN BOARD TOWN BURY HERE, COUNTY NEW YORK PROPOSED TO AUTHORIZE ISSUES OF $2 MILLION ZERO DOWN FINANCE, CONSTRUCTION, RENOVATIONS AND OPERATIONS THE CENTER AND BE A MAXIMUM COST OF $2 MILLION. 
          AND WHERE HAS THE BOARD DETERMINED THAT THE PROJECT HAS STUDENTS HAVE TWO ACTION UNDER THE UNIVERSITY OF ENVIRONMENTAL WATER DO ACT THE REGULATION FRIENDLY AND THERE UNDER, AND THEREFORE NO FURTHER ACTION TAKEN BY THE BOARD AND SECRET AS THE PRECONDITION ADOPTION OF THIS RESOLUTION. 
          WHEREAS THE BOARD NOW WISH TO THE APPROPRIATE FUNDS FOR THE PROJECT TO AUTHORIZED ADDITIONAL. 
          THEY ISSUE NO TO BE ISSUED FINANCE. 
          THE BOARD CONDUCT FOR PURPOSE NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED BY THE BOARD OF TOWN MANAGER. 
          THIRD. 
          SO IT FOLLOWS LIFTED. 
          AGREE CREDIT MARCH 
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SETTLE MOTION. 
          SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION SECOND FOR BOND ISSUE, $200 FOR A SENIOR TIME. 
          THIS IS A, UH, SOLUTION THAT WE ENTERTAINED ON MARCH 11TH. 
          AND TO RECAP, UH, WERE WE DONE WITH THIS IN 2022? WE WERE NOTIFIED BY THIS ONE YEAR CENTRAL SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT THEY WANTED TO BUILDING THAT THEY THEN PETITION AS REQUIRED OF AGREEMENT, THE NEW YORK STATE EDUCATION DEPARTMENT TO EXTEND THE LEASE AS THEY WERE REQUIRED TO. 
          THEY ALSO INDICATED THAT THEY HAD AN EDUCATIONAL PURPOSE FOR THAT BUILDING. 
          THE STATE EDUCATION DEPARTMENT DID DENIED GET A REQUEST TO EXTEND A LEASE BECAUSE THEY HAD AN EDUCATIONAL PURPOSE FOR THAT BUILDING. 
          WE THEN BEGAN NEGOTIATIONS FOR A CONTEMPORARY EXTENSION OF THAT LEASE THAT WE COULD CONTINUE TO, UH, HAVE OUR PROGRAMS IN THAT BUILDING UNTIL THE DISTRICT FULLY TOOK OVER THE BUILDING. 
          SINCE THAT TIME, WE INSTITUTED A COMMITTEE OF RESIDENTS, UH, FROM OUR VARIOUS ADVISORY BOARDS, BOARDS. 
          I WAS ENGAGED STAFF AT THE YOUTH RESTORATION AND SENIOR SERVICES DEPARTMENT TO LOOK AT OPTIONS. 
          WE STARTED LOOKING AT REAL ESTATE THROUGHOUT TOWN AND WE WERE ABLE TO NARROW DOWN OUR OPTIONS TO TWO LOCATIONS. 
          WE HAD BEEN ENGAGED IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH OUR PREFERRED LOCATION AND WE JUST RECENTLY ENTERED DIEGO PROPERTY ASSESSMENT REPORT. 
          BUT WE DO KNOW THAT THIS LOCATION WILL REQUIRE SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT TO TRANSITION FOR ITS CURRENT USE TO THAT OF A SENIOR AND COMMUNITY CENTER. 
          THIS BOND WILL BE AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE WITH UPGRADES. 
          WE MAY NOT NEED $2 MILLION, HOWEVER, WE MAY NEED $2 MILLION. 
          THE LAST SENIOR CENTER, WE'VE BORROWED $1.7 MILLION TO UPGRADE THAT FACILITY. 
          WE WILL BE PAYING THOSE BONDS UNTIL 2035 WITHOUT ENJOYING THE BENEFITS OF THAT. 
          THAT'S IN YOUR CENTER THIS TIME YOU'RE DOING IT RIGHT. 
          WE HAVE A LAW FIRM THAT IS TOPNOTCH ENGAGED IN THOSE NEGOTIATIONS AND I'M CONFIDENT WE'LL HAVE AGREEMENT THAT IT PROTECTS THE TOWN OF BURY AND OUR INVESTMENT IN THAT PROPERTY. 
          AS LONG AS THESE LEASE NEGOTIATIONS CAN GIVE YOU AS THEY, UH, IS THERE ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC? OH, I KNOW WE HAVE PEOPLE ON THE LIST. 
          I THINK ONE DIRECTION THOUGH, WE'RE NOT PAYING THOSE BONDS. 
          I ALREADY CHECKED ALL OF OUR BONDS AND THE ISSUANCE AND WHAT ARE PAID. 
          OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR, I KNOW YOU'VE SAID THAT BEFORE, BUT WE'RE NOT PAYING THAT BOND UNTIL 30 35. 
          I I BELIEVE IT TO BE TRUE, BUT I'M NOT TIME. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING. 
          DISCUSS, VERIFY ON THE LIST. 
          THANK YOU ALL ABOUT. 
          GOT TO KNOW ME BY NOW. 
          REGRETTABLY, UH, SINCE BY THIS LAST MEETING, I DON'T KNOW MY ROBERT RULES BOARD LIKE SIX MINUTES NOW. 
          TRICK QUESTION WITH SOME, I THINK, WELL THIS IS A SILLY SCENARIO, VERY CLEAR SCENARIO. 
          THE BUILDING WE HAVE NOW IS VERY DIFFICULT TO  QUALITY. 
          I TOOK, UH, THE COMMISSION, ONE OF THE LEASE MANAGERS FOR VENDORS AND THROUGH THAT BUILDING, CFA HAD WORKING IN THE TOWN, SPENT ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF IN THE BUILDING. 
          HE ASKED LOTS OF QUESTIONS, LOT OF CONCRETE CAME OUT AND SAID, YOU KNOW, DAVE OUT A HUNDRED BE LIKE A NINE FIVE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A HARD TIME REPLICATING THIS ANYWHERE IN THE TOWN. 
          AND I'LL GIVE YOU CENTS. 
          DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT PROPER. 
          THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE ANYWAY. 
          IF, IF YOU THINK OF THAT, THAT BUILDING HAS A BOAT FLOATING SOMEWHERE, YOU LOST 411 PASSENGERS, YOU HAVE ALREADY LEFT PARKED. 
          THAT'S JUST ON YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT THINGS ARE GETTING TO LOOK LIKE THERE. 
          YOU HAVE 90 DAYS AND HALF THAT BUILDING IS GONE TO. 
          IT WILL BE  UNLESS THERE'S A REAL SIGNIFICANT PLAN GETTING VERY CLOSE. 
          ON ONE SIDE OF THAT FLOATING BUILDING IS A COURT THAT'S OUR FRIENDS, THAT  DISTRICT. 
          THEY CAN'T CHANGE THEIR COURSE. 
          THEY HAVE BEEN GUIDED NOW BY THE STATE DEPARTMENT. 
          THEY PETITIONER, THEY RUN THEIR PETITION. 
          IT'S GOING AHEAD. 
          THEY HAVE TO BE GOING BY SEPTEMBER. 
          I THINK THEY'VE BEEN FAIRLY GENEROUS ABOUT NOT MAKING TWO DISRUPT UP TO THIS POINT. 
          AT SOME POINT 
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YOU'RE GONNA BRING EGGS, . 
          SO 90 DAYS IS NOT A LONG TIME. 
          AND UH, ON DAY 91, I JUST WONDER WHAT HAPPENS WHEN ALL THESE SENIORS ESSENTIALLY ARE DISPLACED IS A PLAN TO MOVE TO OTHER FACILITIES. 
          YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT TENDS TO BE A DISASTER BECAUSE YOU LOSE PEOPLE WHEN YOU START SPLITTING UP THE, THE FACILITIES FROM THE ADMINISTRATION AND ALL THE, THE REST. 
          YOU ALL HAVE THE ULTIMATE SILVER BULLET IN A WHITE BOAT ON THE OTHER SIDE. 
          I MEAN, I REALIZE THERE'S MONEY INVOLVED IN RENOVATING ANYTHING YOU'LL NEVER FIND. 
          I ASSUME MOST OF YOU OR ALL OF YOU ARE TAKING A TOUR OF THAT BUILDING, YOU'LL NOT FIND SOMETHING THAT WILL GET AS CLOSE AS THAT BUILDING WILL TO WORKING. 
          AND IT HAS LOTS AND LOTS OF ADVANTAGES FROM , FROM RES EGRESS, HIGH CEILING SPACE, LOTS OF THINGS THAT WILL MAKE THAT BUILDING WORK WELL. 
          HOWEVER, BY ANY NEGOTIATION IN ANY DEAL, IT IS A PROGRESSABLE ITEM. 
          IT CAN GO AWAY. 
          THE OWNER WILL NOT HAVE PATIENCE FOREVER DEALING WITH THE LEGS. 
          I REALIZE IT'S MOVING AHEAD. 
          THAT NEEDS TO KEEP MOVING AHEAD. 
          UM, AND SOMEBODY ELSE FINDS OUT ABOUT IT AND JUMPS INTO A DEAL. 
          WHO KNOWS? BUT THINGS FALL APART IF YOU LOSE NEEDLES AND THERE'S JUST NOTHING ELSE THAT COMES CLOSE TO THAT BUILDING THE ENTIRE TOWN. 
          SO I REALIZE THERE ARE THINGS PEOPLE GET AHEAD THERE IN TERMS NEGOTIATION. 
          I REALIZE YOU ALSO TABLED THIS THE LAST TIME, UM, BECAUSE YOU NEEDED MORE INFORMATION. 
          I HOPE EVERYBODY WAS WORKING HARD TO GET THE INFORMATION THEY NEED TO MOVE THAT AHEAD WITH HOW TO ACTUALLY PULL THE TRIGGER. 
          BECAUSE NINE DAYS IS NO TIME AT ALL. 
          UM, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE INTO A NEW BUILDING IN 90 DAYS NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS. 
          BUT HE SAID THERE'S A PLAN PERCENTAGE OF THE WHOLE THINGS TOGETHER UNTIL THAT PLAN PUT IN PLACE. 
          I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY THE PROPERTY YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT ACROSS FROM EXTRA 57. 
          YOU TALKED ABOUT THE BENDERSON PROPERTY. 
          THAT EXTRA 57 ELSE IS THERE. 
          SO THE STATE, STATE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW, AND THE WHERE'S THE STATE PROPERTY? THE FOREMAN CALLED LOSS. 
          YEAH, BUT THEY WON'T GIVE A RIGHT AWAY TO PUT SIGNAL IN THERE. 
          THEY WON'T ALLOW US. 
          THE E WILL HAVE ALLOW A FORWARD INTERSECTION. 
          WE UNDERSTAND THAT TO BE TRUE. 
          WELL, AND THEY ALSO HELD A, AN OPTION, UH, WHERE THEY STARTED THE PRICE OF OVER $300,000 AN ACRE AND THEY HAD ZERO REGISTERED BIDS. 
          YEAH, BUT I THINK THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT DIDN'T ADDRESS AT EGRESS COME POSSIBLE. 
          YOU'RE MAKE THAT A FOUR INTERSECTION. 
          THE ONLY PERSON THAT COULD POSSIBLY WANT THAT WOULD  BECAUSE THEY HAD TO SHOW PROPERTY HOWEVER THEY HAD THEIR OWN PROBLEM DOWN THE STREET BECAUSE THE CURB DOWN THERE WOULD HAVE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF VEHICLES INCLUDING DISTRIBUTION CENTER AND TRUST, A FOUR LANE, 40 MILE AN HOUR HIGHWAY AND MAKING TURNS. 
          THAT'S, THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY HAS SOME REAL ISSUES IN TERMS OF MAKING THAT WORK. 
          AND IF YOU'RE BUYING IT FROM ANDERSON, IT'S A PIECE OF PROPERTY, ANYTHING. 
          ANYWAY, I DON'T THINK THAT PROPERTY IS, MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. 
          BUT THAT, THAT'S MY OPINION. 
          YOU KNOW, THE, UH, THE RESOLUTION FROM, UH, MARCH 25TH MEETING THAT WAS, UH, THAT WAS PRESCRIBED, YOU KNOW, WE TRIED THAT AND AS OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID, WE TRIED THAT 2017 AND THE FAILED. 
          WE TRIED IT IN 2009 AND IT WAS STILL OVERWHELMINGLY PUBLIC REFERENDUM. 
          I DON'T SEE THAT AS A WAY TO GO AND BUILDING ANYTHING. 
          DO I MEAN BY THE TIME YOU BRICK GROUND AND YOU DO THE SITE WORK AND YOU DO THE ARCHITECTURE, YOU DO THE ACTUAL BUILDING AND BUILDING OUT THAT FACILITY, UM, I DON'T EVEN BUY CLEAN BANANAS ANYMORE. 
          SO I'LL NEVER SEE THAT HAPPEN. 
          I I SUGGEST THAT IF THERE'S ANY WAY POSSIBLE COME TOGETHER, LOOK AT THAT PROPOSED BUILDING. 
          IF, UH, YOU WANT A TOUR, CAN'T FIND ONE. 
          I GLAD TO VOLUNTEER. 
          IT'S AN AMAZING PIECE. 
          THE PROPERTY, THERE'S LOTS OF POTENTIAL 
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EVEN DOWN THE ROAD FOR EXPANSION. 
          AND KEEP IN MIND, THIS ISN'T GONNA BE A SENIOR CENTER, IT'S GONNA BE A TOWN COMMUNITY CENTER. 
          SO IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE LEADERS. 
          I DON'T WANT IT. 
          SO I SAID MY PIECE. 
          I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND UH, I YOU WELL WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO GET CORRECT? WE'RE CURRENTLY IN NEGOTIATION WITH BE THERE . 
          WELL, OUR HOPE IS THAT YOU TO SUCCESSFULLY NEGOTIATE A LEASE, WE WILL BE ABLE MOVE THAT EQUIPMENT INTO THE FACILITY, MR. TIMEFRAME. 
          WELL, OUR HOPE IS THAT WITHIN THREE MONTHS WE HAVE THAT READY TO GO. 
          WE ALREADY BE PURCHASED BY THE LEASE. 
          PRIOR, PRIOR TO, YEAH. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE CLOSE. 
          I KNOW, UH, OUR RECREATIONS DIRECTOR IS NOT HERE, BUT I BELIEVE THERE'S ABOUT 700,000. 
          HOW MUCH MONEY DID YOU SAY WE HAD? UM, SET ASIDE RECREATION CENTER LAST MEETING, YOU SAID ABOUT $700,000 ALLOCATED? NO, WE HAVE THAT UNALLOCATED FUNDS. 
          THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE FUNDS ARE TWO AND TWO DIFFERENT ACCOUNTS. 
          ONE IS AN EACH ACCOUNT FOR, UM, RECREATION. 
          THAT'S, I BELIEVE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I KNOW, UM, COMES FROM THE BUILDERS WHEN THEY BUILD THE SUBDIVISION, THEY PUT FUNDS IN AN ACCOUNT, UM, TO BASICALLY PAY BACK FOR RECREATIONAL SPACE THAT THEY HAVE BOUGHT AND BUILT ON. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS ONE'S PUT ASIDE FOR A, FOR THE LEASE, THE CURRENT LEASE, WE HAVE TO PUT ASIDE X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS TO MAKE SURE WE CAN PAY THAT LEASE AND SHOW THE FAITH THAT WE ALWAYS HAVE FUNDS FOR THAT. 
          AND I BELIEVE, IF I'M CORRECT, ABOUT 400,000, WELL 400,000 TOTAL WOULD BE THOSE, OH, I'M SORRY, 400,000 FOR THE AMOUNT THAT WAS TIED TO THE CURRENT SENIOR CENTER AND ABOUT 500,000 IN THE RECREATION . 
          OH, SO WE HAVE SOME ROOM. 
          WE HAVE SOME, I MEAN MONIES THAT WE CAN USE THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO BUY, RIGHT? WE NEVER HAVE TO BUY. 
          NO. 
          UM, MY THOUGHTS ARE SIMPLY THIS. 
          WE DON'T HAVE A FACILITY, SO YOU'RE GONNA BORROW $2 MILLION FOR A FACILITY. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE, YOU DON'T, YOU'RE YOU DON'T HAVE A LIE. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE A LEASE. 
          AND SO WE'RE JUST SITTING THERE WITH $2 MILLION THAT YOU WOULDN'T SPEND IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE BUILDING. 
          AND SO MY THOUGHTS WERE IT IS SIMPLE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BORROW MONEY FOR SOMETHING I DON'T HAVE. 
          I DON'T, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOOKING AT WHAT FACILITY AND WHAT IF THE LEASE, IT REALLY DOESN'T XI MEAN DO WHAT WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THE AIR CONDITIONING AND THING OR DOES, YOU KNOW, SO THE RENTS ARE GONNA BE NEGOTIATED ON ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT THINGS WITH THE CHARGE, THE PARKING LOT. 
          WHO'S GONNA DO THE ROOF, WHAT HAPPENS TO THIS ADDRESS? SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE, YOU'RE JUST NOT GONNA JUMP INTO A THING. 
          OTHERWISE WE'LL BE IN THE SAME SITUATION. 
          WE ARE ACROSS THE STREET WITH THE SENIOR CENTER WHERE IT'S AT NOW GETTING KICKED OUT AFTER SPENDING $2 MILLION. 
          SO MY THOUGHTS ARE FOR THE SUPERVISOR TO GO BACK, TAKE THE $7 MILLION FROM THE ICE R AND THIS AND PUT ALL OF 'EM TOGETHER WITH THE $7 MILLION PACKAGE SO WE COULD DO ALL THE WORK AT ONCE AT ONE TIME. 
          SO, UM, YES, ABSOLUTELY. 
          BUT I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT THIS RESOLUTION BEFORE NONE, MR. , AS WHAT EXPLAINED TO US BY OUR BOND COUNCIL WON'T TALK ABOUT IT, IS AUTHORIZING US TO BORROW THE MONEY. 
          IT IS NOT OUR MONEY. 
          SO WHEN YOU SAY THAT IT WAS STILL NOT $2 MILLION AND WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A LEASE AGREEMENT THAT'S INCORRECT, WE WOULD DO IS PASS ON RESOLUTION THAT WILL ALLOW US BORROW UP TO $2 MILLION FOR FOLKS THAT ARE USED TO A HOUSEHOLD BUDGET, WE WOULD BE VERY SIMILAR TO TAKING OUT A HOME EQUITY BUYING CREDIT. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT ALL THAT CASH IN YOUR BANK ACCOUNT, YOU'LL EXTEND IT ON DEBT. 
          BUT WHEN YOU ARE READY TO MAKE THAT PURCHASE, THOSE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE. 
          SO AS OUR BOND COUNCIL INDICATED THERE WOULD BE AN IDEAL APPROACH TO PASS THE BOND RESOLUTION. 
          I DISAGREE WITH WHAT HE SAID. 
          BOND NEGOTIATING A, UH, LEASE AGREEMENT KNOWING THAT THAT LEASE AGREEMENT 
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SHOULD BE SIGNED BEFORE YOU ACTUALLY ACCESS THE CASH. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A REASONABLE APPROACH. 
          AND HE ALSO AGREED WITH ME SAYING PUT 'EM ALL IN ONE BOND. 
          YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          WELL, THEY'RE ALL GOING TO ONE HOUR ANYWAYS, SO THAT WOULD ALL HAPPEN. 
          SO CURRENTLY WENT OUT THERE ONLINE. 
          SO THIS IS BOARD MEMBERS TOWARDS THE NEW BUILDING? NO. 
          WHY NOT? WE WEREN'T INVITED TO QUESTION. 
          DID YOU CONTACT THE, HAVE YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY? I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH 'EM ALL THE TIME. 
          TRANSITION, PLEASE. 
          NO, I HAVEN'T BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE SAME TIME I'VE BEEN TALKING IN COMMITTEES WITH WORKING ON GETTING THE FACILITY. 
          SO WHY HAVEN'T BEEN TOLD YOU? WELL IS IS THE OPPORTUNITY THERE FOR, I MEAN THERE SEEMS TO BE A GOOD DEAL OF RELUCTANCE TO BUY SOMETHING YOU HAVEN'T TOUCHED YET. 
          IT'S, THAT HAS NOTHING TO TAKE OR NOT THAT HAS SEEN THEM KNOW THE FACILITY IS, IS ALMOST THE SAME SIZE AS THE FACILITY ARE NOW. 
          AM I RIGHT SQUARE FOOTAGE? SO IT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. 
          I, I'VE BEEN, I'VE BEEN IN THE BUILDING BEFORE. 
          UM, IT HAS JUST ABOUT ALMOST EVERYTHING WE NEED, BUT WE DON'T HAVE IT YET. 
          DO YOU AGREE THAT IT'D BE HARD TO FIND ANOTHER BUILDING THAT WOULD HAVE EVERYTHING WE NEED? IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. 
          THAT IS, I YOU UNDERSTAND YOU LOOKED AT LOTS AND LOTS AND LOTS OF BUILDINGS. 
          CORRECT. 
          FIND ANOTHER ONE. 
          WHAT, WHAT IF THE GENTLEMAN DECIDES I DON'T WANNA A LEASE OR SELL THE BILLING. 
          SO HE'S HIRED AN ATTORNEY, HE'S ENGAGED IN NEGOTIATING WORK. 
          I A PRETTY GOOD INDICATION. 
          I GOT THAT, LIKE I SAID, TWO TIMES ON ONE. 
          BUT WHAT, WHAT'S THE ALTERNATIVE FOR DAY 91? AND AND YOU'RE SEEING WE HAVE MONEY TO DO WORK NOW, ONCE AGAIN, BETWEEN THE TWO FACILITIES, I WANT TO PUT ONE BOND TOGETHER WITH A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY SO WE DON'T EXPEND OUR EXPENDITURES. 
          WHY DOES THE SENIOR CENTER HAVE BE ATTACHED TO NIKE PROJECT? ARE THEY JUST THESE  IT NOT UNDER RECREATION. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE, BUT THEY'RE BOTH RECREATION. 
          I A SENIOR. 
          I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I YOU'RE NOT, THAT DOESN'T ADDRESS WHAT HAPPENS. 
          I'M SORRY, BUT LISTEN, WE HAVE RULES OF ORDER AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK YOU SHOULD COME UP HERE AND, AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF. 
          THE I MEAN IT ALL DUE RESPECT AND, AND BECAUSE WE HAVE A RECORD AND SO THIS NOT A FREE FOR ALL. 
          IF YOU WANNA COME UP AND ADDRESS US AND SIGN IN AND PLEASE DO I, BUT I WILL. 
          WE I THINK WE KNOW HOW YOU FEEL, BUT YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO EXPRESS IT AGAIN. 
          UM,  THAT WE'RE IN A VERY UNFORTUNATE SITUATION. 
          I WAS THERE WHEN THEY PRESENTED WHAT POLICE SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE CURRENT BUILDING. 
          TURNS OUT THAT'S NOT WHAT IT WAS. 
          WE DON'T HAVE ANY OPTION OF STAYING THERE. 
          THAT WATER IS A BRIDGE WORKS OUTTA THE BARN, WHATEVER SHIP AS SALE, WE HAVE TO BE OUT THERE. 
          WE HAVE MANY PEOPLE AND NOT ONLY SENIORS, THIS IS A COMMUNITY CENTER THAT THERE ARE YOUTH PROGRAMS THERE AS WELL. 
          AND THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT USE THAT BUILDING EVERY DAY. 
          OUR SMART START PROGRAMS ARE FULL AS SOON AS THEY OPEN UP. 
          AND THOSE ARE FIRST  AND THEY, THE SENIOR DAYCARE, THE SILVERSNEAKERS PICKLE, DO WE WANNA BE THE, THE COMMUNITY THAT JUST TURNS THEIR BACK ON PICKLE WALL AND THERE'S NO PLACE FOR THEM TO PLAY? THAT'S RIDICULOUS. 
          AND, AND NOBODY, I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYBODY SAY, WELL NO, WE'RE WE'RE GONNA TURN DOWN, UH, THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE A BETTER OPTION. 
          WHAT'S THE BETTER OPTION? YOU'RE, YOU ARE SAYING YOU'RE GONNA PROPOSE A PRO, UH, UH, PROPOSAL THAT'S GONNA TAKE ABOUT 10 YEARS. 
           A ROAD THAT WE HAVE BEEN DOWN SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE. 
          WE KNOW LOTS OF REASONS WHY IT DOESN'T WORK. 
          AND YET YOU ARE GONNA OPT FOR THAT, WHICH HAS NO POSSIBILITY OF ADDRESSING WHAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS IN THREE MONTHS. 
          THREE MONTHS. 
          WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THESE OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT YOU ARE HERE TO SERVE. 
          AND WE NEED A PLACE WHERE THIS CURRENT , AS I SAID MA'AM, IN FOUR YEARS, IF I CHOOSE TO RUN THE WAY THIS WORKS IN THE DEMOCRACY IS, AND I GET A LOT OF CALLS, YOU HAVE SPECIAL INTERESTS, WE HAVE SENIORS, WE HAVE A LOT OF GROUPS. 
          EVERYBODY WANTS THE GOVERNMENT TO SPEND MONEY. 
          THERE ARE ALSO PEOPLE THAT VOTED FOR ME THAT SAID THEY ARE TIRED OF THE TOWN OF BERRY SPENDING, SPENDING MONEY. 
          SO WE'RE LOOKING AT MORE FISCALLY PRUDENT MATTERS. 
          IT WAS $2 MILLION. 
          IT WAS PREVIOUSLY ALLOCATED TO THE NIKE BASE THAT DIDN'T GO FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          AND IF YOU THINK I'M SUSPICIOUS, I HAVE A GOOD REASON TO BE SUSPICIOUS BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR ME ARE SUSPICIOUS OF THE BOARD 
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PREVIOUSLY. 
          MR. . 
          NO. 
          AND, AND ALL IN ALL IN ALL SINCERITY. 
          SO JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE WANTS IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY GET IT. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT IT ALSO DOESN'T, YOU'RE, THAT SOUNDS GREAT AND THOSE ARE GREAT SOUND BITES AND IT'S GOOD THEATRICS. 
          BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS YOU HAVE AN EMERGENT ISSUE. 
          90 DAYS, THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE THAT USE THAT BUILDING EVERY DAY. 
          HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE THAT USE THAT BUILDING, THESE ARE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY. 
          WE'RE ALREADY LOSING PEOPLE. 
          THAT'S REVENUE. 
          WE ARE LOSING REVENUE. 
          OKAY, YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT, OH, WELL WE'RE GONNA THINK ABOUT IT, WE'RE GONNA FIND SOMETHING DOWN THE ROAD. 
          YOU'RE LOSING REVENUE. 
          HIS WHAT? HIS PROPOSAL, HIS PROPOSAL THING WITH HIS, UM, KAJAL. 
          KAJAL HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NIKE BASE. 
          IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SENIOR CENTER. 
          LIKE YOU SAID, IT IS SOMETHING TO LOOK FORWARD TO. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND I BELIEVE I HEARD HIM SAY ABOUT DOING THE FUNDAMENTAL AT THE NIKE BASE. 
          I BELIEVE I HEARD HIM SAY, UH, OTHER THINGS ABOUT GETTING THINGS DONE AT THE NIKE BASE. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT WHAT I DIDN'T SEE WAS SOMEBODY SAY, OKAY, I'M GONNA PROPOSE THREE MINUTES IS THANK ON YOU'RE WELCOME TO CONTINUE IF YOU'D LIKE MR. KY FAIL TO REALIZE THAT SUPERVISED THE MEETING. 
          IF YOU'D LIKE TO FINISH YOUR REMARKS, YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO THE RULES OF ORDERED STATE, THE RULES OF IN STATEMENT, ALL THAT. 
          THERE'LL BE A THREE MINUTE LIMIT STATE. 
          THE THREE OF YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN MEETING BEHIND CLOSED DOORS ALSO. 
          EXACTLY. 
          YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT. 
          OH, I KNOW WHAT THESE STATES. 
          OH, ACTUALLY I DO. 
          AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S A THREE MINUTE. 
          SO OKAY, WHAT WHAT HAS HAPPENED HERE AND WHAT'S HAPPENED THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT IS THAT OUR SPEAKERS ARE CONTINUALLY IN DRUG LOOP, WHICH THINK VERY DIFFICULT TO ON EXACTLY WHAT MINUTES IS. 
          AND SOME OF YOUR, SOME OF WHAT YOU SAID IS IN RESPOND TO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBERS SAID. 
          EXACTLY. 
          SO I, WE ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO NOT INTERRUPT YOUR SPEAKERS, LET THEM SAY THEIR PIECE AND THEN WE CAN RESPOND. 
          . 
          OKAY, AL GREAT. 
          THERE'S NOT ONE PERSON. 
          WELL, THERE ARE PROBABLY SOME BECAUSE IT WOULD INCREASE TAXES, BUT MOST PEOPLE WOULD SAY, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          WE SAID THAT WAS A GREAT IDEA IN 2017. 
          GREAT IDEA. 
          IT'S NOT GONNA AMBER'S TRYING TO PUBLIC CRIME IN DIDN'T WORK. 
          LOOK IT UP. 
          THEY BUILT A NEW SENIOR CENTER IN OR PARK, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE $16 MILLION, 24 MILLION. 
          AND IT IS NOT DONE. 
          SO WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
          I DID NOT SEE MR.  COME IN AND SAY, ALL RIGHT, HERE'S MY BOTTOM PROPOSAL OFF. 
          WE DON'T HAVE THAT. 
          WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE BETWEEN A AND B HERE. 
          WE JUST HAVE NO, JUST LIKE THE ROUNDABOUT WHERE YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO SPEND A MILLION, BUT LET'S GO AT LEAST TRY FOR IT. 
          MY DAUGHTER'S 31 YEARS OLD IN FIFTH GRADE, SHE WROTE A LETTER TO THE TOWN BOARD ABOUT THAT INTERSECTION AT CLARK STREET, MCKINLEY APARTMENT. 
          THAT'S HOW MY, THAT'S HOW. 
          AND SHE RECOGNIZED IT AT THAT AGE. 
          AND WE STILL HAVE THAT PROBLEM. 
          AND YOU GUYS JUST SAID, NO, NOT FOR ANY GOOD REASON. 
          JUST LIKE NOW YOU'RE TURNING DOWN EVERYTHING WITH NO GOOD REASON. 
          YOU ARE NOT TELLING THESE SENIORS WE HAVE A BETTER OPTION. 
          YOU GOT 30, YOU GOT 90 GATES. 
          DON'T SAY WE HAVE A VERY UNIQUE PROPERTY THAT WILL ADDRESS ALL THE NEEDS. 
          JUST ABOUT EVERY NEED THAT COULD BE, THERE'S NO OTHER PROPERTIES THAT THEY COULD FIND. 
          AND YET PEOPLE HAVE BEEN LOOKING, IT'S NOT LIKE SOMEBODY JUST CAME IN TWO WEEKS AGO, HEY, NOT THIS JUDGE. 
          WHAT TWO WILL DOES. 
          I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH THE PROPERTY. 
          AND PEOPLE HAVE, LOOK PEOPLE, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TIME INVESTED IN THIS. 
          WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE NO OTHER OPPORTUNITY LIKE THIS. 
          SO TO SIT HERE AND SAY WE DON'T OWN IT YET. 
          WELL WE'RE NOT SPENDING IT. 
          WE'RE JUST SAYING LET'S HAVE IT THERE BECAUSE WE HAVE NEEDS IN 90 DAYS AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO MEET THOSE NEEDS. 
          THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. 
          YOU. 
          I'M MEETING. 
          YES. 
          THIS IS ACTUALLY WHAT I HATE TO TALK ABOUT. 
          UM, I AM A REGISTERED NURSE FOR THE MASTER'S DEGREE OF PUBLIC HEALTH. 
          ONE OF THE LEADING POSITIVE DEATH AND DISABILITY IN SENIORS IS LONELINESS. 
          A SENIOR CENTER IS SOMETHING FOR SENIORS TO GO TO TO AVOID LONELINESS. 
          PEOPLE DEVELOP CHRONIC ILLNESSES WHEN THEY HAVE LONELINESS. 
          THIS IS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BELIEVE ME, YOU CAN THINK I'M A LIAR. 
          PLEASE GO LOOK AT THE RESEARCH. 
          IF THESE SENIORS HAVE NOWHERE TO GO, IT'S GOING UNDER THEIR MENTAL HEALTH AND ULTIMATELY THEIR PHYSICAL HEALTH AND LIKELY WILL LENGTHEN THEIR LIVES. 
          SO PLEASE CONSIDER THAT THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT, THIS IS WHAT RECREATION, THIS IS ABOUT THEIR LIVES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CAN WE JUST GET THE NAME JACKIE? 
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I JUST WANTED TO DEAL THAT YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THAT YOU, YOU'RE CLOSE TO. 
          IS THAT A LEASE OR IS THAT A BUY? SO WE ARE EXPLORING SEVERAL OPTIONS. 
          WE CAN BE EITHER OR WE'RE LEASE TO BUY OR WE'RE IN NEGOTIATION AROUND THOSE, THOSE BACK. 
          EXACTLY. 
          I I'M, I WAS TOLD IT WAS A LEASE. 
          IF IT'S, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS CHANGED IN THE NEGOTIATION, I WAS NOT INFORMED OF THAT. 
          ALRIGHT, MR. ADMITTEDLY THERE'S NOTHING IN WRITING YET. 
          IT PROBABLY WON'T BE WHILE MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE BOND IS IT'S PERMISSION TO SPEND MONEY, IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT. 
          MM-HMM  RIGHT. 
          PERMISSION TO POWER ALL. 
          SO WE CAN BORROW THE MONEY, WE CAN, WE DON'T PAY INTEREST ON IT UNTIL WE USE IT. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO THE NEGOTIATIONS TAKE TWO MORE WEEKS. 
          THAT'S NOT MONEY WE'VE GOTTA PAY FINANCE CHARGES ON IN THE MEANTIME. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          BUT IF THE MAN SAYS YES, YOU'VE GOT TO CHECK THERE IN, RIGHT? WELL ONCE WE HAVE NON RESOLUTION, THERE'S 30 DAYS THAT WE HAVE TO WAIT, WHICH ALLOWS THE PUBLIC TO OPEN, APPROVE THIS REVENUE THE THEY CHOOSE AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL LIKE 25 DAYS. 
          OH. 
          SO IT WAS PRETTY MUCH 60 DAYS PAST THE RESOLUTION BEFORE WE CAN ACTUALLY BORROW THE MONEY. 
          AND WE ALSO HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO A BOND ANTICIPATION NOTE, WHICH SHORT TERM BORROW, KNOWING THAT WE HAVE AN AUTHORIZED BOND WHICH COULD GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO WAIT FOR THE INTEREST RATES TO GO DOWN AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE LOWER INTEREST RATES AS TO BECOME AVAILABLE. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN. 
          START EARLY. 
          THE BEGINNING ON THIS IS I DON'T WANT TO SEE MOVING BANDS PARKED THERE 59 DAYS FROM NOW AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO JAM EVERYTHING INTO A TRUCK AND GET THE HELL OUT OF THE BUILDING. 
          YEAH, IT'S MY CONCERN AS WELL, ADMITTEDLY WE'RE SHARING THAT GYMNASIUM WITH FRONTIER, BUT FRONTIER GETS FIRST CHOICE ON THE TIME. 
          SO I SUGGEST WE HAVE FRANK HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TELL THE PICKLE BALLERS THAT THEIR NEW TIME IS FROM MIDNIGHT TILL THREE IN THE MORNING. 
          , I DON'T WANNA BE THE ONE MAKING THAT CALL, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET FIVE TIMES OVER THERE ANYMORE AND WE SHOULD NOT. 
          IF IT'S A SCHOOL'S PROPERTY, I'M A FRONTIER RESIDENT, THEY'RE ENTITLED TO PICK WHAT THEY WANT. 
          WE GET WHAT'S LEFT. 
          BUT WE HAVE A HELL OF A LOT OF PROGRAMS RUNNING OUT OF THAT BUILDING AND YOU CAN'T BRING LITTLE KIDS IN AT 11 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT FOR PROGRAMS. SO IT'S GOING TO BE, THERE'S A TIME ELEMENT THAT WE P****D AWAY THREE MONTHS, THIS IS THE MIDDLE OF MARCH, ALMOST THE END OF MARCH ALREADY. 
          AND WE'RE LOOKING AT BARELY THREE MONTHS AND WE'VE GOTTA GET OUR BUTTS OUT THE FRONT DOOR. 
          IF WE DON'T PULL THIS CHAIN, WHAT'S THE NEXT OPTION? I DON'T SEE ONE MR. I, I GUESS I JUST DON'T SEE THE DOWNSIDE OF HAVING IT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE PROCESS YOU JUST EXPLAINED, THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE INCIDENT BECAUSE THERE ARE PROCEDURES TO FOLLOW THAT ARE GOING TO EAT UP EVEN MORE TIME AND CAN WAIT A LOT LONGER AND IT'LL EVENTUALLY, IF YOU WAIT TOO LONG, EAT INTO THAT. 
          BEYOND THAT 90 DAYS YOU WON'T HAVE THE MONEY IF, IF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS TRUE AND I HAVE NO REASON TO BELIEVE IT'S NOT, WHAT IN THE WORLD IS THE DOWNSIDE OF KNOWING THAT IT'S THERE IF IT'S NOT COSTING YOU ANYTHING TO KEEP IT THERE. 
          IT'S ABSURD. 
          I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULD NOT DO THAT. 
          WELL ONE OF THE POINTS THAT I MADE PREVIOUSLY IS THAT WE DO, WE DO HAVE FUNDS AVAILABLE THAT IT WOULD NOT STOP THE PROCESS WHEN GOING FORWARD. 
          WE WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO INVESTIGATE. 
          SOME OF YOU HAVE DONE, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS KNOW AND WE'VE ASKED FOR INFORMATION. 
          SO THE MONEY THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY THAT WE DO HAVE AVAILABLE WOULD ALLOW US TO STILL GO FORWARD NEGOTIATIONS, ET CETERA. 
          SO THERE'S NO BOND. 
          IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THIS PROCESS STOPS. 
          AND ALSO WHEN WE WERE GETTING CONVERSATIONS WITH THE BOND COUNCIL, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE BROUGHT UP WAS ABOUT THE INTEREST RATE AND THE POTENTIAL FOR THE INTEREST RATE TO GO DOWN. 
          SO SOME OF THAT IS, AGAIN, NOT SAYING NO, BUT IF WE CAN LEVERAGE SOME OF THE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE NOW SO WE CAN CONTINUE THE PROCESS AND IN TURN LIKELIHOOD OF THAT UH, INTEREST RATE GOING DOWN. 
          SO THERE'S MANY THINGS THAT WE'RE RETURN TO BALANCE AND I DON'T BELIEVE ANYBODY'S SAYING NO. 
          WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE AGAIN, THAT WE BALANCE THIS AND WE DO HAVE WHAT I THINK IT WAS JUST DETAILED, 800, $900,000 AVAILABLE PLUS SOME OTHER, UM, POSSIBILITIES TOO THAT'LL ALLOW US TO CONTINUE THIS PROCESS AND BOND BUT MAYBE BOND IN A MORE ADVANTAGEOUS TIME. 
          AND SO WE'RE ALL, WE'RE BALANCING A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS RIGHT NOW AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE. 
          UM, AND I HOPE THAT I CAN EVEN GET 
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MORE INFORMATION AND SO HOPEFULLY WE GET AN UPDATE LATER IN THIS EVENING ON THE PROCESS AND WHERE WE STAND. 
          I LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. 
          DOES ANYBODY HAVE CLARIFICATION ON THAT ACCOUNT? THE RECREATION ACCOUNT? MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT'S TO BE USED TO UPGRADE OUR PLAYGROUND THAT ARE NOT UP TO CODE. 
          YEAH, I BELIEVE THAT WE DO HAVE A FLEXIBILITY AS FAR AS WHAT THOSE CAN BE USED FOR AS LONG AS THERE BY THESE RECREATIONAL EXPENSES. 
          ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THE SENIOR CENTER BOND RESOLUTION? SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR WITH PROPER SECOND. 
          WE WOULD LIKE TO CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE SUPERVISOR HO. 
          YES. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER KAMPER? YES. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER BKI? NO. 
           COUNCIL MEMBER FAR LAUREN? NO. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER COLEMAN? NO. 
          YEAH, SHE MADE RESOLUTION FAILS GUYS. 
          YEAH, SAID ANYTHING ME PLEAD GET OKAY, AGREE RESOLUTION  BE IT RESOLVED THE TOWN BOARD DOES HEREBY APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING AS FOLLOWS. 
          REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING FEBRUARY 5TH, 2024 AND TOWN BOARD EXECUTIVE SESSION OF MARCH 11TH, 2024. 
          SO WE WILL SECOND. 
          AYE AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED S PERRY, WHERE DOES TOM WARD RECOGNIZES THE APRIL 20, 24 56 TITLE RIGHT BACK TO 1968. 
          ALL ANY HOUSING TO TOM HAD OUT IN 19 SIX IN 2005, 2016. 
          FURTHER WHERE FAIR HOUSING BOND WHEREAS IS FAIR HOUSING ACT IN ACTION NOW. 
          THEREFORE WE RESOLVED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE PARTNERS AT FAIR HOUSING TOWN VAN DESIGN MONTH OF APRIL, 2024 AT FAIR HOUSING MONTH WITHIN TOWN HAMBURGER STILL OVER THAT. 
          GOOD. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED IONS CARRIAGE WHEREAS TOWN BURY CONTINUING PARTNER CONTRACT WITH ALL OPPORTUNITIES MAY EQUAL AS THE LOCAL SOURCE AGENTS SERVE TOWN AND BILL TO COMPREHENSIVE FAIR HOUSING SERVICES INCLUDING THE CIRCUM LEGAL LOCATION, THE TOWN LAW, WHEREAS THE CONTRACT AGAINST TOWN HOUSING CERTIFICATION WHICH IS REQUIRED BY THE UNITED STATES OLOGY AND DEVELOPMENT FOR THE CBG AND HALL RIDGE AND THEREFORE THE RESULT SUPERVISOR SIGNED SOLE SOURCE CONTRACT FOR COMPREHENSIVE FAIR HOUSING SERVICE PERIOD. 
          APRIL 1ST, 2024. 
          MARCH, 2026. 
          HE THE FURTHER DEPARTMENT OVERSIGHT 180 $20,000 PER YEAR ACCOUNTS AND OR 8 6 6 8 4 5 6 1. 
          SO MOVE SECOND ALL MAYOR AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED EXTENSIONS WE ARE ABSENT NOVEMBER 27 JOINT 20 BOARD AUTHORIZED DEPARTMENT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FOR SERVICES VALUE PROGRAM FOR THE APRIL 3RD, 24 MARCH 26TH, WHEREAS IN  FEBRUARY 14TH, 24 REVIEW NOW THEREFORE RESOLVED AND AUTHORIZED BASED UPON THE RESPONSE TO THE RP GOING CONTRACT, NOT DOLLARS IS AVAILABLE WITHIN THE CO ACCOUNT AND OR SEATTLE EXHIBIT SIX, 8.4 BY SIX ONE. 
          SO MOVED SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          OPPOSED? STATUTE GARY, WE AS A WHOLE PERSON FORWARD NATIONAL COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT LEAD CELEBRATE THE FEDERAL COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPING PROGRAM 50 YEAR WHEREAS WITH THE LENGTH OF THE PROGRAM RECEIVED APPROXIMATELY $18 MILLION IN THE FEDERAL CG PROGRAM. 
          WHEREAS PROGRAMS IMPLEMENTED RESPONSIBILITY RECONSTRUCTION OF TRUCTURE PUBLIC SERVICES HOUSING PROGRAM, LOWER PROJECT PROJECTS AND OTHERS AWARE AS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, STRONG WORKING NETWORK, LOCAL GOVERNMENT RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES, NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS WHERE NEEDS OF THE TOWN HAMBURG, THOSE FRESNO HAMBURG. 
          NOW THEREFORE TO RESOLVE ANCHOR COUNTY BOARD OFFICE RESIDENTS IN CONJUNCTION WITH MANAGEMENT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ATION HEREBY APRIL ONE THROUGH FIVE. 
          2024. 
          SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? PENSION ENGINEERING PA RESOLVED TO CALL BOARD APPROVED TO TERMINATION AND HIRING OF THE FOLLOWING EMPLOYEES WITHIN THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. 
          THE 
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SO SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          OPPOSED? NUMBER NINE, I WOULD JUST MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO HAVE MY NAME SPELLED PROPERLY. 
          UH, BOG. 
          UM, NUMBER NINE, AUTHORIZATION SCHEDULE B FOR THE TOP HENRY. 
          VARIOUS APPLICATIONS FEES ASSOCIATED WITH BILLING, INSPECTION, PERMIT, APPLICATIONS, PLAN REVIEWS, ET CETERA. 
          NOW THEREFORE, IF YOU SAW TOWN HAMMER BOARD DO TOWN BEING TABLED BUILDING AND ELECTRICAL COMPENSATED. 
          3 14 24. 
          SO BOOTH SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? EXTENSIONS CARRIED. 
          WE AS JOHN  SHEET WORKS INCORPORATED LEGISLATION OF THE ROOF. 
          SHE GOES AND GENERAL AFFAIRS DOWN DEPART COMPLETE THE FINAL WALKTHROUGH INSPECTION. 
          THREE 13 DOOR, DOOR AND WHERE THAT ALL WORKS. 
          DOCUMENTS NOW THEREFORE DID RESOLVE LIEUTENANT AUTHORIZED THE SUPERVISOR TO SIGN THE CERTIFICATE OF THE SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION DATE OF 4 0 1 20 24 AND RELEASE PROJECT RETAIN, SETTLE OVER SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? A OPPOSED CARRIED BUDGET NONE. 
          DEPARTMENT OF YOUTH RECREATION AND SENIOR SERVICES WHERE CHECK FOR $9,201 WAS RECEIVED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF YOUTH RECREATION AND SENIOR SERVICES FROM ERIE COUNTY SENIOR SERVICES FOR THE TRANSFER OF UH, 2019 FIVE SPAN. 
          NOW THERE REVIEW RESOLVED THE TOWN BOARD DOES HEREBY AUTHORIZE BUDGET AMENDMENT IN 2024 TO INCREASE APPROPRIATION. 
          SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          INCREASE. 
          NO, I GUESS IT'S NOT INCREASE, YES. 
          INCREASE A 2 6 6 5 SALE OF EQUIPMENT AND 8 6 7 7 2 4 1 2 RECREATION. 
          HERE WE GO. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? EXTENSIONS CARRIED WILLIAM D. PARK, UH, BACKSTOP. 
          REBID WHEREAS NOTICE OF ADVERTISED ON THE BID WAS PREPARED BY WILL D UH, WILLIAM D WILLIAM'S BACKSTOP REPLACEMENT PROJECT AND WHERE SEAL BIDS WERE OPEN AND RENTAL OUT ON WEDNESDAY, MARCH 20TH, 2024 AT 10:00 AM AND WHEREAS, AND HAVING ONLY RECEIVED ONE BID INCENTIVE WAS SIGNIFICANTLY OVER BUDGET IN THE AMOUNT BE IT RESOLVED IF THE TOWN ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT REJECTS ALSO THAT IT BID AND RECOMMENDS THE PROJECT BE ADVERTISED FOR REREADING BID WILL BE OPENED AND READ ALLOWED ON APRIL 17TH, 2024 IN ROOM SEVEN A DASH SLASH SEVEN B AND 10:00 AM FUNDS AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT H DASH 1 0 3 DASH 7 1 4 0 4 1 3. 
          SO MOVED SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? BENCHES CARRIED. 
          WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG ENTERED A 60 MONTH LEASE AGREEMENT WITH, EXCUSE ME, HELA PACKARD ENTERPRISE FINANCIAL SERVICES IN OCTOBER OF 2019 FOR THE PURCHASE OF NETWORKING INFRASTRUCTURE EQUIPMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $162,403 91 CENTS WITH A MONTHLY LEASE PAYMENT OF $2,937 89 CENTS. 
          AND WHEREAS THE CRITICAL NETWORK INFRASTRUCTURE EQUIPMENT WILL REACH END OF LIGHT AND CONTRACTUAL SUPPORT IN NOVEMBER, 2024. 
          AND WHEREAS THE REPLACEMENT EQUIPMENT WILL CAUSE $121,433 AND 45 CENTS AND IS ON A NEW YORK STATE CONTRACT FEE ON 2 0 8 5 0. 
          AND WHERE IS THE EQUIPMENT WILL BE LEASED THROUGH HEWLETT PACKARD ENTERPRISE FINANCIAL SERVICES FOR A 60 MONTH LEASE TERM WITH A $1 PURCHASE OPTION AT THE END OF THE TERM. 
          AND WHEREAS HEWLETT PACKER'S ENTERPRISE FINANCIAL SERVICES HAS AGREED TO AN EARLY BUYOUT OF THE TOWN'S CURRENT LEASE AND WOULD RECAST THE REMAINING LEASE AMOUNT OF $20,565 AND 23 CENTS INTO THE NEW LEASE. 
          AND WHEREAS THE NEW LEASE AGREEMENT WOULD BE IN THE AMOUNT OF $149,998 AND 68 CENTS WITH AN ESTIMATED MONTHLY LEASE PAYMENT OF $2,927 95 CENTS. 
          NOW, HE HAD RESOLVED THAT THE HAMMER TOWN BOARD APPROVES THE PURCHASE OF THE REPLACEMENT EQUIPMENT THROUGH NETWORKING TECHNOLOGY AND IS ENTERING INTO A NEW LEASE AGREEMENT WITH HE PACKER. 
          ENTERPRISE FINANCIAL SERVICES FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN COUNT A 1 6 9 0 2 0 7 1. 
          SO SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          A AYE. 
          OPPOSED IONS CARRIED RESOLUTION 14 COMMUNITY CENTER AND  PROJECT. 
          WHEREAS THE 
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TOWN RECREATION DEPARTMENT HAS PUT PUT FORTH PROPOSALS FUND IMPROVEMENTS TO THE HAMBURG TOWN ARENA DUE TO THE AGING INFRASTRUCTURE WORK. 
          WHEREAS TOWN RECREATION DEPARTMENT, UM, PUT FORTH PROPOSAL SEEKING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN FUNDING TO RENOVATE A POTENTIALLY LEASE STRUCTURED TO BE USED AS A SENIOR CITIZEN CENTER. 
          WHEREAS THE COST OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS IS EXPECTED TO BE $7 MILLION. 
          WHEREAS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG'S POPULATION HAS GROWN SIGNIFICANTLY OVER THE LAST SEVERAL DECADES SINCE THE TOWN ARENA WAS CONSTRUCTED. 
          WHEREAS THE TOWN HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND RECREATIONAL PROPERTIES OPPORTUNITIES, UH, FOR ITS CITIZENS, YOUTH, AND SENIORS, IT IS HEREBY RESOLVED AS FOLLOWS. 
          TOWN OF HAMBURG SHALL FORM A COMMITTEE FOR THE PURPOSE OF EXPLORING PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS TO CONSTRUCT A DUAL ICE ARENA FACILITY AND CORRESPONDING FIELD HOUSE AND TRACK CONFERENCE. 
          POSSIBLE LOCATIONS IN FOR THIS FACILITY TO BE EXPLORED WILL INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO. 
          MCKINLEY MALL AREA. 
          THE FORMER LEISURE LAND COMPLEX, THE SOUTH SHORE COUNTRY CLUB AND THE HAMBURG TOWN ARENA COMPLEX COMMITTEE SHALL BE APPOINTED BY THE TOWN BOARD AND CHAIRED BY COUNCIL MEMBER FRANK ALKI. 
          THE COMMITTEE WOULD BE CHARGED WITH SEEKING OUT FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT. 
          COLLABORATION WITH PRIVATE ENTITIES AND GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES TO INCLUDE, BUT NOT LIMITED TO CORPORATIONS, PRIVATE INVESTING PARTNERS, COLLEGES, UNIVERSITIES, SCHOOL DISTRICTS, AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS. 
          THE COMMITTEE WILL REPORT ITS RECOMMENDATIONS AND FINDINGS TO THE BOARD. 
          SO MOVED. 
          SECOND. 
          CAN I ASK A QUESTION? YEP. 
          A QUESTION. 
          SO WHO EX I JUST WANNA ASK A QUESTION ON THIS ONE. 
          UM, WHO IS ON THE COMMITTEE? WHAT ARE THE ROLES WE'RE ANTICIPATING IN THE COMMITTEE? THE AUTHORITY OF THE COMMITTEE, THE SIZE OF THE COMMITTEE. 
          I JUST WANTED SOME CLARIFICATION BEFORE WE GO ON CREATING ANOTHER COMMITTEE WITHIN THE TOWN. 
          SURE. 
          SO ORIGINALLY I HAD THOUGHT OF SOME INDIVIDUALS, BUT I THOUGHT WITH, MY THOUGHT WAS, UM, WE WOULD COLLABORATE WITH, WITH THE BOARD, WE WOULD SEEK SOME APPLICATIONS FOR PEOPLE TO BE ON THE COMMITTEE AS WELL. 
          WE WANTED TO, UM, SUBMIT THEIR, THEIR RESUMES. 
          UM, I'M OPEN TO DIFFERENT IDEAS AS THE BOARD WOULD BE. 
          UM, ONE OF THE, UM, INDIVIDUALS THAT SPOKE EARLIER TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUS PLANS THAT, UM, HAD EXISTED FOR DUAL RIGHT? ICE ARENA COMPLEX. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS TO LOOK INTO AND MANY HANDS MAKE MIGHT WORK. 
          SO, UM, I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE, UM, INTEREST IN, IN COACHING AS WELL AND YOU'D PROBABLY BE A GREAT PERSON TO BE ON THE COMMITTEE. 
          I KNOW YOU, WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS IN THE PAST ABOUT, UM, INCREASING RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES. 
          UM, AND WHETHER IT'S A FIELD HOUSE, WHETHER IT'S A DUAL ARENA COMPLEX WITH A TRACK AROUND IT. 
          I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY HERE. 
          WE'RE GONNA BE PUTTING $15 MILLION, UM, IF, IF WE HAD BONDED ALL THESE THINGS, WE BOTH HAVE VALUABLE KNOW, BUT TO TAKE $15 MILLION, THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY. 
          ONE OF THE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT A $20 MILLION, UH, COST FOR THE ARENA IN, UM, IN TOWANDA. 
          AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT $15 MILLION HERE. 
          BUT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ON THE COMMITTEE, I'M OPEN. 
          UM, I THOUGHT WE WOULD START A COMMITTEE. 
          I WOULD WELCOME PEOPLE FROM, UH, ALL OVER THE COMMUNITY, WHETHER IT'S THE HAMMER COS WHETHER IT'S GREAT STATE, WHETHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, ET CETERA. 
          SO NO. 
          WOULD THIS BE REDUNDANT CONSIDERING WE ALREADY HAVE A REC COMMITTEE? I DON'T THINK SO. 
          FOR, THERE'S NO SPECIFIC PURPOSE FOR CONSTRUCTION. 
          I HAVE A POINT OF ORDER. 
          SURE. 
          UM, IF THIS COMMITTEE THAT MR. BOSKY WANTS TO CHAIR, THEN I WANT SOME ASSURANCE THAT, UH, HIS CLIENT WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED FOR THE PROJECT OR THAT HE SHOULD ABSTAIN AND NOT BE INVOLVED IN THIS. 
          THAT WILL, THAT'LL BE UP THE DISTRICT. 
          I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THE BOARD MEMBERS SHOULD CONSIDER WHEN THEY'RE VOTING. 
          MA'AM, YOU'VE IMPLIED THAT I REPRESENTED MR. WALKER WITH AN ICE ARENA PROJECT. 
          I, NOT THE ICE ARENA PROJECT, BUT WE'VE BEEN DOWN THAT ROAD. 
          YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR. 
          SO, UM, JUST COMMENT ON THIS. 
          I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE QUESTION OUR COMMUNITY HAS. 
          CAN I JUST ASK YOU CLARIFICATION ON THE, UM, UM, MR. BOBOWSKI, DID YOU CLAIM THAT THIS PROJECT THAT YOU ENVISION IS, YOU'RE TALKING $15 MILLION? NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID. 
          I SAID I'M SORRY. 
          I I DON'T, 15 MILLION WAS WHAT I SAID WAS EVIDENCE SPENT $15 MILLION ON BONDS. 
          WE HAVE $15 MILLION THAT WE COULD SPEND FOR BONDS. 
          WE CAN COLLABORATE WITH OTHER INDIVIDUALS. 
          I WANT TO FORM A COMMITTEE. 
          I WANT STUDY IT QUICKLY AND I WANT TO DEAL WHAT'S THE BEST ISSUES TO THE TOWN. 
          I DO THINK WE NEED TO RAISE THAT. 
          DO THINK WE NEED TRACK? I DO THINK 
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WE NEED FIELD HEALTH AND AN INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY CENTER. 
          ONE OF THE OPTIONS YOU TALKED ABOUT MANY OF YOUR, MANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT CAME UP AND SPOKE, INSTEAD OF THEY'RE LOSING HAMBURG SENIORS TO ORCHARD PARK. 
          THEY HAVE A WONDERFUL COMMUNITY CENTER. 
          ANOTHER EXAMPLE THAT MAY NOT BE AS BIG, IT'S A SINGLE RING COMPLEX, IS THE S COUNTY COMMUNITY CENTER. 
          I DON'T FAVOR A PIECEMEAL APPROACH WHERE WE'RE GOING TO RAISE TAXES AND WE'LL HAVE ONE PROPERTY WHERE WE WOULD POTENTIALLY PUT $2 MILLION INTO A PROPERTY THAT WE LEASE. 
          WE HAVE EXPANSION OF THE, UM, NIKE BASE, WHICH I, WHICH I DO FAVOR FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE BECAUSE I DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT ICE IS WORKING. 
          BUT I DON'T, WHEN I LOOK AT THE PROJECT AND I LOOK AT WHAT THE PEOPLE CAME, DESPITE WHAT SOME CITIZENS HAVE SAID, I'VE SAID TO THE WORK SESSIONS THAT I LOOKED AT WHAT THOSE PROJECT WERE, I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD VALUE FOR SEVEN AND A HALF MILLION FOR THE CITIZENS FOR WHAT WE'RE GETTING. 
          I THINK WE SHOULD GET MORE. 
          AND IF IT DOESN'T WORK OUT, IT DOESN'T WORK OUT. 
          WE CAN ALWAYS EXPAND THE NIKE BASE. 
          AS MY COLLEAGUE, MR.  SAID IN THE PHASE TWO, THE MAIN THING FOR, FOR ICE ARENA PROJECT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT HOCKEY PLAYERS NEED ICE FIGURE. 
          SKATERS NEED ICE, PUBLIC SKATING NEEDS ICE. 
          BUT I ENVISION A COMMUNITY CENTER THAT WOULD BE INCLUSIVE OF EVERYONE, NOT JUST A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT THAT IS SOLELY 15 YEARS WAY FOR SOLELY FOR ICE. 
          THAT WE HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PROJECT. 
          $15 MILLION IS A SIGNIFICANT MONTH AMOUNT OF MONEY. 
          AND WHO KNOWS, MAYBE THE COMMITTEE COMES BACK TO RECOMMENDS WE BOUGHT EVEN MORE MONEY IF IT IS FISCALLY INCLUDED, WE DON'T HAVE TO RAISE TAXES. 
          WE CAN GENERATE OTHER SOURCES OF REVENUE. 
          I WOULD EVEN FAVOR REDUCED ICE TIME FOR, FOR RESIDENTS LIKE, LIKE THE NIKE BASE DOES RIGHT NOW WHERE THEY CHARGE, THERE'S A, THERE'S A RESIDENT RATE AND A NON-RESIDENT RATE. 
          AND, AND FOR ME, A MEETING CENTER, UH, THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT IDEAS AND OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE. 
          THE JAMESTOWN ARENA HAS A TRACK THAT GOES AROUND AND SO FORTH. 
          SO I JUST  WHEN YOU, YOU'RE THE, THE 15 MILLION THAT JUST STARTED APPEARING IS THIS RESOLUTION. 
          I JUST, I WASN'T SURE WHERE THAT WAS COMING FROM, BUT JUST A REMINDER, THE ORCHARD PARK SENIOR CENTER WAS 25 MILLION. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU MR. ROMERO. 
          UH, TWO QUESTIONS AND A WELL, THREE QUESTIONS. 
          NUMBER ONE, HOW DO YOU ENVISION THE APPLICATION PROCESS TO GO? BECAUSE, UH, HAMMERCOCK WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, UH, SOMEONE ON THAT, UH, COMMITTEE. 
          I THINK THE RECREATION COMMITTEE SHOULD HAVE SOMEBODY ON THAT COMMITTEE. 
          I AGREE. 
          OKAY. 
          NUMBER TWO. 
          HOW LONG DO YOU THINK THIS PROCESS WILL TAKE? WELL, WHEN I ORIGINALLY DRAFTED THE RESOLUTION, I HAD TALKED TO SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES. 
          I HAD TALKED TO SOME PEOPLE WHO WERE INTERESTED IN SERVING ON, ON THE COMMITTEE. 
          I REACHED OUT TO MANY PEOPLE. 
          I DO THINK, UH, HAMBURG FOX SHOULD HAVE SOMEONE ON THE COMMITTEE BECAUSE YOU'RE PROBABLY THE BIGGEST TENANT, UH, OR ONE OF THE BIGGEST USERS OF THE FACILITY. 
          IT IS A HOCKEY ARENA. 
          I DO THINK IT SHOULD BE RECREATIONAL PEOPLE. 
          BUT I MEAN, I, I BELIEVE IN, UM, IN THINKING BIG AND I BELIEVE THERE'S A MARKET FOR A DUAL ICE AND, AND A FIELD HOUSE. 
          MY DAUGHTER, I'M A BIG SUPPORTER OF WOMEN'S SPORTS. 
          I HAVE A DAUGHTER, TWO DAUGHTERS THAT PLAY COLLEGE SPORTS. 
          AND WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY WOULD GO TO, UM, TRACK MATES, THEY HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY TO TON COLLEGE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A TRACK HERE. 
          UM, I, I REMEMBER, UH, SEEING MEETS AT THE ARMORY IN MANHATTAN AND ALSO IN STATEN ISLAND, AND THOSE FACILITIES ARE BOOKED UP EVERY SINGLE WEEKEND. 
          PEOPLE COME FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, COMPETE IN TRACK MEET. 
          THERE ARE CHILDREN THAT PLAY SOFTBALL, BASEBALL, LACROSSE, AND THOSE FACILITIES THAT ARE MULTI-PURPOSE FACILITIES WHERE THEY'LL PUT UP DIVIDERS OR THEY'LL PUT UP NETS IN BETWEEN TRACK WHERE YOU CAN HIT A BASEBALL OR PLAY LACROSSE. 
          NOW, I, I CERTAINLY ANOTHER IDEA, AND I I'M OPEN TO ALL IDEAS, THAT'S WHY I WANT A COMMITTEE. 
          WHEN PEOPLE CAME TO OUR WORK SESSIONS AND THEY SAID THEY'RE PAYING, WE'RE GONNA PAY SEVEN AND A HALF OR $8 MILLION FOR THE RENOVATIONS TO THE NIKE BASE. 
          AND MY COLLEAGUES WILL TELL YOU, I SAID, WELL, HOW MUCH SHOULD ADD A SECOND RATE THERE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT BEHIND OR RIGHT NEXT TO IT? BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GONNA SPEND THAT MONEY, WHICH IS A LOT OF MONEY, WHY NOT LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT IS, IS GREAT WHERE, WHERE THE HAWKS COULD HOST A TOURNAMENT. 
          I MEAN, THIS YEAR MY TEAM WENT TO TWO TOURNAMENTS, UH, AT HYDE PARK THAT HAS A DOULA I KNOW YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH, WITH THAT, UM, FACILITY. 
          UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE BUILT IT PROPERLY WHERE IT WOULD BE A VERY BIG WIN FOR THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE COULD HAVE OUR HOTELS, UM, FILLED UP WHO HAVE OUR RESTAURANTS BEING UTILIZED, I THINK, IN A BIGGER SCALE. 
          AND, AND, AND IF IT DOESN'T WORK OUT, THEN YES, I DO THINK WE EXPLORE EXPANDING THE NIKE BASE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE. 
          BUT WHY 
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NOT TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY WHEN THERE'S THE MARKET AND YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOUR ORGANIZATION HAS TO RUN I STAT AT LEISURE RATES AND OTHER FACILIT DON'T, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH ANY OF THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S WHY WE WANNA HAVE SOMEBODY ON THERE. 
          BUT MY THIRD QUESTION IS, WHEN IT COMES TO RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THE BOARD, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A NEW COMMUNITY CENTER, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, SHOULD MR.  CHAIR, BECAUSE HE'S THE REC LATEST LIAISON, WE'RE ALL GOOD. 
          I MEAN, IT DID, THIS IS THE REVOLUTION THAT I PUT FORTH. 
          AND YOU KNOW WHAT SOMEONE ONCE SAID, THERE'S NO LIMITS TO WHAT PEOPLE CAN ACCOMPLISH AS THEY'RE NOT, AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT WHO'S TAKING CREDIT FOR IT. 
          IF HE WANTS TO BE THE CHAIRPERSON, SOMEONE WANTS TO AMEND THAT. 
          I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD SECOND THAT. 
          I JUST THINK, IN MY VIEW, WHETHER IT'S ME OR MR.  OR UM, COUNCILWOMAN , UH, THAT'S GONNA CHAIR THAT. 
          'CAUSE I KNOW SHE HAS COACHING EXPERIENCE. 
          UM, I, I VOLUNTEERED TO DO IT BECAUSE I'VE PLAYED IN THAT RING SINCE, YOU KNOW, SINCE THE SEVENTIES. 
          BUT WHO CHAIRS IT IS NOT REALLY RELEVANT TO ME. 
          IT'S THAT WE LOOK AT IT BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY GOING FORWARD. 
          I THINK WE NEED A SECOND, UH, RING. 
          MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE RESOLUTION TO HAVE, UH, MR. COZA THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE. 
          ALSO TO ENSURE THAT THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE HAMPER BOX AS WELL AS FROM OUR RECREATION, YOUTH AND SENIOR SERVICE TO THE ADVISORY BOARDS ON THE COMMITTEE. 
          DO YOU WANNA BE ON THE JUDGE JOHNSON THROUGH THE MOTION THERE? A SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          A SECOND BY THE COUNCIL. 
          . 
          ALL IN FAVOR TO AMEND THE MOTION AS STATED. 
          SECOND VOTE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          QUESTION. 
          YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE PUTTING ME AS THE CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE? YEAH, THE LIAISON TO PRIVATE SERVICES. 
          THIS IS A SEPARATE COMMITTEE BESIDES THE YOUTH AND RECREATIONAL. 
          THIS IS A QUASI, UH, PUBLIC PRIVATE THING HE'S TALKING ABOUT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO HOW ABOUT WE PUT YOU BOTH DOWN THERE? GOT A QUESTION, HONOR. 
          LET LET YOU GUYS FINISH THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT THAT HAS BEEN SECONDED, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT THAT HAS BEEN SECONDED. 
          AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE TO BE A VOTE. 
          YEAH, YOU PASS. 
          YEAH, WE DIDN'T VOTE YET. 
          OKAY. 
          WE NEED TO VOTE. 
          WHAT'S THE AMENDMENT? WHAT'S THE AMENDMENT? BUT IT HAS BEEN AMENDMENT. 
          THE AMENDMENT. 
          DAN CHAIR, YOU PROPOSED THAT WE WERE GONNA AMEND THE RESOLUTION TO PUT COUNCILMAN CO ON THERE AND A MEMBER OF THE BER COX ON THERE AND BACK SECOND IT AND CM SERVICES ADVISORY BOARD. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S THE AMENDMENT NOW WE'RE VOTING ON THE AMENDMENT OKAY RIGHT NOW. 
          YEAH. 
          SO ALL FAVOR A AYE NAY, LOGAN. 
          UM, SO THEN NOW THIS GOES BACK TO THE, THE ORIGINAL ION, WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. 
          I DID HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. 
          UM, I KNOW MR. DER DID NOT GET THE ANSWER OF HOW YOU APPLY TO BE ON THE COMMITTEE. 
          I HAVE, I YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT A TRACK. 
          I HAVE COACHED INDOOR TRACK FOR 22 YEARS. 
          I'VE BEEN AN OUTDOOR TRACK COACH, BUT THIS IS HARD TO DO. 
          YOU'RE HIRED DOING FAIR  AS WELL. 
          AND AS I SAID, I'M AT SAIL ALL THE TIME, PHIL, LACROSSE. 
          SO I FEEL LIKE I CAN FILL LIKE, NUMEROUS ROLES AS FAR AS WHAT NEEDS TO BE IN PLACE IF ALL OF THESE THINGS. 
          AND I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO GET MARKET. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GO ABOUT IT. 
          'CAUSE THAT PART WASN'T ANSWERED. 
          WE JUST MADE YOU THE CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THE CHAIR. 
          I DON'T KNOW ABOUT CHAIR, BUT I, I WOULD LIKE TO FIND OUT HOW TO BE A PART OF IT. 
          AS YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE SOMETHING DEFINITELY BE A PART. 
          OH, APPOINT HIM AS THE CHAIR. 
          THE CHAIR. 
          I'M THE CHAIR. 
          I'M APPOINT YOU AS THE CHAIR. 
          SURE. 
          I I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT ENTAILS, BUT YES, SIGN ME UP. 
          I'M GOOD WITH, I VOLUNTEER FOR EVERYTHING ELSE IN MY LIFE, SO, AND AS YOU KNOW, THE SAIL, I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S A NEED FOR THIS. 
          YOU DRIVE ALL THE WAY, ALMA FOR THIS STUFF, LIKE SNOWSTORMS? NO, I, I WON'T THINK EITHER AS A NEED. 
          I MEAN, MY, MY, I'VE HAD MY MODIFIED, I'VE HAD MY FIFTH AND SIXTH GRADE BOYS PLAYING LACROSSE GAMES AGAINST OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS AT NINE O'CLOCK AT NIGHT ON A THURSDAY, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY TIME WE CAN GET ON A SCHOOL MONTH. 
          AND IT'S RIDICULOUS. 
          SO YEAH, THERE'S, THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY SOMEBODY WHO WOULD KNOW WHAT AN INDOOR TRACK FACILITY WOULD NEED, WHAT A LACROSSE FACILITY WOULD NEED, YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD BE, AND ONE HOCKEY, YOU KNOW, WOULD, WOULD LIKE TO, I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SERVE TO CHAIR WHATEVER YOU WANT ME TO DO. 
          I'LL BE THERE TO, I JUST EMAIL, EMAIL FRANK EMAIL SO HE HAS YOUR EMAIL AND YOUR, YOU KNOW. 
          YEP. 
          THAT SOUNDS WOULD THE, WOULD THE TOWN BE AUTHORIZING THE REPORT TO DO THE SURVEYS AND THE RESEARCH THAT THE TOWN HAS ALREADY DONE 
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IT SPECIFICALLY BACK IN 2017, I THINK WENDELL DID A LOT OF THAT RESEARCH AND ALL THE SURVEYS THAT THEY DID AS FAR AS THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY, WHAT PEOPLE WANTED, WHAT WE NEEDED, AND WHAT WE TO SUPPORT. 
          AND HOW MUCH DID WE FED ON ALL THAT? DID ANYBODY KNOW? THERE'S NOTHING THAT NO, THERE WAS, THERE WAS. 
          THEY WAS LONG BEFORE MY TIME. 
          UM, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S VISION IS FOR THE COMMITTEE OTHER THAN WHAT STATED BEFORE HERE. 
          EVENING RESOLUTION DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY PROVISION FOR EXPENDITURE OF POUND FUNDS, WHICH WOULD'VE TO AWAIT ANOTHER RESOLUTION. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S PURELY ON ALL THAT. 
          SO, MR. BROWN, THIS COMMITTEE IS PURELY A BRAINSTORMING COMMITTEE, ASSUMPTION RESOLUTION, NO AUTHORITY TO SPEND ANY MONEY. 
          IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE RESOLUTION AS IT'S BEEN READ AND AMENDED, THEREFORE IT'S MOVING TO THE FOUR CORNERS IN THE LANGUAGE OF A SPECIFIC RESOLUTION AS AMEND. 
          SO WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST, MR. I'M MUCH MAKING A SUGGESTION. 
          I'M JUST CLARIFYING YOU GUYS. 
          HOLD ON. 
          THIS. 
          YES. 
          SAY, UH, A PROPOSE, UM, JARED, WHEREAS THE HAMMER TOWN BOARD IS CURRENTLY CONSIDERING SEVERAL CAPITAL PROJECTS, THE ASSOCIATED COST AND FUNDING OPTIONS AND WHERE IS THE HAMMER? TOWN BOARD IS COMMITTED TO PROVIDING SERVICES THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY, WHILE ALSO BEING MINDFUL OF THE IMPACT OF TAXES AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS, FAMILIES IN THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. 
          AND WHERE THE HAMMER TOWN BOARD REQUIRES ACCURATE INFORMATION TO FACILITATE INFORMED DECISION MAKING AND FOSTER TRANSPARENCY WITH CITIZENS. 
          NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, THE HAMMER TOWN BOARD EFFECTIVELY IMMEDIATELY PLACES A FREEZE ON THE EXPENDITURE OF ANY TOWN POWER FUNDS AND BE FURTHER RESOLVED IN AMBER TOWN BOARD REQUESTS DIRECTOR OF FINANCE CACHE PROVIDED PRESENT TO THE TOWN BOARD AND UP TO DATE DETAILED THE COUNTY OF AR FUNDS FULLY SPENT THUS FAR ALONG WITH FUNDS, PREVIOUSLY HIERARCHICAL PROJECTS, BUT NOT CON CONVERT OR SPENT AND FUNDS NOT NEAR AR SPENT THUS FAR AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, EFFECTIVE, RESOLVED, EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY ANY EXPENDITURES FROM OUR FUNDS WILL ONLY BE MADE UPON FURTHER APPROVAL FROM A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE HANDFORD TOWN BOARD AFTER THE DATE OF THIS RESOLUTION AND BE FURTHER RESOLVED THAT MR. SHEA WILL ALSO PROVIDE THE TO BOARD WITH THE TOTAL AND BREAKDOWN BY DEPARTMENT AND ACCOUNT NUMBER OF ENCUMBERED AND UNENCUMBERED FUNDS CARRYING OVER FROM THE 2023 BUDGET YEAR. 
          SO MOVED SECOND. 
          NO QUESTION. 
          I WAS GONNA SAY I ONE GO AHEAD. 
          YOU GO FIRST. 
          SUSPEND. 
          SO FOR THE MOST PART, I, I REALLY DON'T THINK THIS RESOLUTION WOULD REALLY CHANGE MUCH. 
          ANY ARTICLE FUNDS THAT HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN ALLOCATED BY THE PREVIOUS BOARD. 
          UH, THIS CURRENT BOARD CAN, CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, THE MONEY SET ASIDE FOR PARKS IMPROVEMENTS, WE ALLOCATED $1 MILLION. 
          THAT WAS JUST TO PROVIDE GENERAL GUIDANCE. 
          OVERALL, WE WOULD LIKE TO USE MERIT RESIDENT ON AN AG FUND BOARD TO ACTUALLY SPEND THE MONEY REQUIRES A VOTE. 
          THE TOWN BOARD, MY CONCERN WITH THIS RESOLUTION IS THAT WE'VE ALREADY VOTED ON CONTRACTS AWARDED CONFERENCE AND IDENTIFIED OUR FUNDS FOR EXPENDITURE, FOR EXPENDITURE FOR THOSE CONTRACTS. 
          AND THIS IS GONNA CAUSE, UM, SOME DELAYS. 
          I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER IT'S EVEN A LEGAL RESOLUTION SINCE THE BOARD IS ALREADY VOTED TO APPROVE THESE CONTRACTS USING AMERICAN WE PLAN ACT FUNDS AS PAYMENT AND WE HAVE VENDORS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE PAY. 
          SO I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, MAKE MOTION DISPUTE RESOLUTION TO EXEMPTS ANY A FUNDS THAT HAVE BEEN COMMITTED WITH A PREVIOUSLY OR AWARD CONTRACT THAT BEEN GOING DOWN BY THE ENTIRE TOWN BOARD. 
          OUTSIDE OF THAT, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT. 
          THAT'S NOT MOTION THOUGHT IT WOULD BE ENCUMBERED OR SPENT OF FUNDS THAT ARE EARMARKED. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO IF IT'S SPENT, IF A VENDOR HAS ALREADY SUBMITTED AN INVOICE, IF IT THEIR SPENT HAS PROVIDED THE SERVICES, OF COURSE WE'RE GOING TO PAY THAT. 
          WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THERE ARE SEVERAL INSTANCES WHERE PROJECTS HAVE NOT BEEN STARTED WHERE PROJECTS NOW THAT MAY HAVE BEEN EARMARKED BEFORE ACTUALLY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GO FORWARD AND WE WOULD LIKE TO RECAPTURE THAT AND REALLOCATE IT TO SOME OF THE OTHER CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US. 
          SO IN THIS SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE A, A PROJECT, LET'S SAY THE PROJECT IS A MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT AND UH, WE AWARDED THE CONTRACT FOR THAT MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT AND THAT CONTRACTOR HAS REACHED A HALFWAY MARK, THEY'RE IN PART TO 
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$500,000. 
          SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS UNDER THIS RESOLUTION, THE TOWN BOARD NOT HAS TAKEN ANY ACTION TO IMPROVE THE EXPENDITURE OF THAT $500,000 IF IT'S ALREADY BEEN SPENT, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, FOR EXAMPLE. 
          BUT, SO MY SEC SECOND PART, THIS QUESTION IS THE NO DOLLAR PROJECT, $500,000 WAS ALREADY SPENT FOR THE SECOND HALF OF THAT PROJECT REQUIRES THEM TO DO WORK FOR AN ADDITIONAL $500,000. 
          SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE TOWN BOARD WOULD HAVE TO REAPPROVE THAT WORK NOT DOING FOR THE ADDITIONAL $500,000? THAT HAS NOT BEEN SPENT YET. 
          WHAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE, WHAT WE'D LIKE TO HAVE INPUT ON ARE THINGS LIKE, UH, SIZABLE AMOUNT MONEY HAS BEEN ALLOCATED TO, UH, WEST ARNOLD. 
          WE KNOW THAT THAT HAS ENCOUNTERED ISSUES. 
          SO ANY FURTHER, UH, ALLOCATION GOING FORWARD, WE WOULD LIKE TO INSTEAD RECAPTURE THAT THOSE MONIES AND LOOK AT A DIFFERENT WAY DOWN THE ROAD IF THAT'S EVER RESOLVED TO BE FUNDED. 
          IF THERE'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE, OF COURSE WE WOULD PAY THAT VENDOR. 
          SO I GUESS JUST TO REPHRASE MY QUESTION, IF WE HAVE AWARDED CONTRACT BUT HAVEN'T SPENT THE MONEY, WOULD WE HAVE TO GO DOWN THAT AGAIN IF WE I DON'T THINK WE'VE AWARDED A CON WE HAVEN'T AWARDED THE CONTRACT FOR WEST. 
          I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT MIGHT PROPOSED. 
          AND THEN IS IT TO SAY THAT ANY CONTRACT HAS ALREADY BEEN AWARDED WITH THE ARPA FUNDS? IT IS EXEMPT FROM THIS RESOLUTION? NOT IF IT HASN'T BEEN SPENT ALREADY. 
          I'D LIKE US TO COME BACK AND HAVE THE CONVERSATION. 
          I VERY SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT THE LEGALITY AND THE IMPACT THAT THIS WOULD HAVE ON HOW OPERATIONS. 
          I AGREE. 
          VERY CONCERNED. 
          I AGREE WITH, I I AGREE WITH, UH, COUNCILMAN 'CAUSE ESPECIALLY AFTER WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE WAY YOU WASTED MONEY ON THE ICE RINK PROJECT. 
          WE HAVE SERIOUS CONCERNS. 
          I I MEAN IF THERE'S A PARTICULAR WORD OR WORDING, BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S A LEGALITY ISSUE, BUT I WOULD ALWAYS DEFER TO OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT IF THERE IS A WORD THAT NEEDS TO, OR A SERIES OF WORDS THAT NEED TO BE CHANGED TO ENSURE THAT YOUR CONCERN IS COVERED, THAT'S FINE BECAUSE IT WASN'T INTENDED TO CREATE ANY TYPE OF A LEGALITY OR AN ISSUE WITH ANY OF OUR VENDORS. 
          I THINK I STATED THAT IN THE BEGINNING. 
          SO I'M OPEN TO ANY WORDING THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED IN THERE. 
          I THINK EARMARK COVERS IT WITH, I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          IS THIS NEARLY AN ATTEMPT TO REDO WHAT THE PREVIOUS BOARD DID? NO, IT IS NOT. 
          YOU DIDN'T LIKE NO, IT'S NOT AT ALL. 
          WE'VE, UM, WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF OUR AR O MONEY THAT IS, UM, STILL POSSIBLY AVAILABLE THAT WE COULD BE USING FOR SOME OF THESE CAPITAL PROJECTS AND POSSIBLY DIMINISH THE AMOUNT THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO BOND. 
          AND AGAIN, WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN VERY CAREFUL THE LAST FEW YEARS AND SET SOME OTHER MECHANISMS IN PLACE TO TRY TO PUT THE TURNING WITH FOOTING AND I DON'T WANNA SEE THAT, UM, US LOSE THAT GOOD FOOTING LIKE SOME OF THE PROJECTS WE'VE DONE WITH LED AND WE'RE GONNA BE, UH, HAVE, UH, EXPERIENCING SOME OF THOSE SAVINGS. 
          UM, THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS LIKE THAT AND I DON'T NECESSARILY WANNA TURN AROUND AND SPEND IT ALL ON INTEREST. 
          SO AGAIN, HITTING THAT BALANCE. 
          SO IT, ARE THERE THINGS THAT WE HAVE NOT STARTED THAT WERE EARMARKED, BUT AGAIN, WE TALKED ABOUT PRIORITIES. 
          SO RIGHT NOW, SENIOR CENTER, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IS IT MORE IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE THAT MONEY SO WE CAN GET STARTED ON THE SENIOR CENTER OR, AND NOT LEAVE IT NOT AND NOT LEAVE IT WA WAITING FOR LEGALITIES TO BE RESOLVED REGARDING WEST ARNOLD FOR EXAMPLE. 
          THAT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE. 
          NO, I UNDERSTAND IT. 
          WHAT WE'RE, AND IF YOU COULD COME AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD, IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK, PLEASE AND DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. 
          MR. BOGON NEEDS TO REMEMBER THAT I'M RUNNING THE MEETING. 
          WE HAVE A SMALLER ROUTE HERE. 
          THESE ARE RULES. 
          A LITTLE MORE INFORMAL. 
          MR. HOPE MUST ADHERE TO THE FORMALITIES UNLESS YOU WANNA AMEND THE RULES. 
          MY CONCERN THAT THIS WOULD APPEAR AT ITS FACE TO BE GIVING YOU THE AUTHORITY TO UNDO WHAT WAS JONES AND BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE WHO DID IT APPARENTLY DOESN'T,  DOESN'T LIKE THE THINGS YOU VOTED FOR IN THERE AT THE, THIS IS WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF FROM AR BOOK AND WE HAVE ALLOCATED IN A VARIETY, VARIETY, VARIETY OF DIFFERENT WAYS. 
          THERE IS STILL A FUNDS AVAILABLE AND THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE RECAPTURE SOME OF THOSE FUNDS IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE USED. 
          THAT WOULD BE, IF IF THE FUNDS WERE STILL OUT IN THE ACCOUNT, THOSE YES. 
          SHOULD BE AVAILABLE ANYWAY. 
          NO, BECAUSE SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN SWITCHED EVEN FROM LIKE OUR FUNDS TO OTHER ACCOUNTS. 
          AND SO WE JUST WANNA HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING AMONG EVERYONE THAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS RECAPTURE AS MUCH AS THAT OF THAT AS AS POSSIBLE AND CAPTURING THE MONEY, THE MONEY'S STILL GOING TO GO BACK INTO THE ACCOUNT THEN SWITCHING MONEY BETWEEN ACCOUNTS IS NOT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          WHAT I'M CONCERNED WITH IS IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS APPROVED THAT HASN'T STARTED YET, THEN WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IS THE AUTHORITY TO TO STOP 
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THAT. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE YOU TO ADDRESS. 
          THERE'S THERE'S NOTHING, YOU'RE RIGHT THERE. 
          OUR POSSIBILITY SUCH AS THAT, SUCH AS WEST NU I THINK I MIGHT HAVE, OH MIKE, YOU'RE SORRY I KEEP FORGETTING INTERRUPT. 
          I HAVE A GOOD EXAMPLE OF A CURRENT PROJECT THAT I THINK COULD CAUSE SOME PROBLEMS. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M JUST, THAT'S MY QUESTION. 
          YEAH, I THINK, LET ME ILLUSTRATE THAT WHEN COUNCIL MEMBER MCC COME FOR DONE. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S OKAY. 
          I'LL TO, I WAS ALREADY PATIENTLY I WAS JUST WONDERING HOW THIS PROPOSAL THAT YOU ABOUT IS GONNA IMPACT PREVIOUSLY BUDGETED OR VOTED ON PROJECTS, WHICH I THINK WAS WHAT SUPERVISOR HOPE WAS ALLUDING TO. 
          UM, BUT I ALSO HAVE SOME CONCERNS NOW THAT YOU MENTIONED THE PREVIOUSLY OUT THERE, UM, FUNDS THAT HAVE PROJECTS THAT ARE, SO FOR EXAMPLE, NO LONGER GOING FORWARD THAT WE CAN RECAPTURE. 
          I THOUGHT THAT WAS OUR BEST PRACTICE THAT IF WE RAN UNDER BUDGET AND I I KNOW WE HAVE DONE THAT ON DRAINAGE STUDIES, WE'RE PROJECTED TO COME IN UNDER BUDGET. 
          WE'RE GOING TO USE THAT MONEY IN ANOTHER DRAINAGE PROJECT. 
          LIKE IT IS NEVER BEEN OUR EXPERIENCE ON THIS TOWN BOARD WHERE WE ARE JUST LEAVING MONEY ON THE TABLE OR NOT USING. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. 
          AND ALSO THE UPPER FUNDS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. 
          I MEAN SPECIFICALLY THERE IN SOME OF THOSE OTHER BIG PROJECTS AND SOME OF IT HAS SWITCHED, RIGHT? SO UNDER BUDGET WE'RE STILL GONNA IDENTIFY THAT IT CAME IN UNDER BUDGET. 
          WELL, WE MAY WANNA REPRIORITIZE A FEW OF THOSE PROJECTS GIVEN WHAT WE HEARD TONIGHT SO THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT A BONDING PACKAGE AND BE MORE RESPONSIBLE ABOUT THAT WITH LOOK AT, WE HAD 11 MILLION WHATEVER FROM OUR BOOK PLUS WHAT WAS BONDED. 
          WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY AND THERE WERE A LOT OF DECISIONS MADE ON THINGS THAT WERE EVIDENTLY MORE IMPORTANT THAN, YOU KNOW, SENIOR CENTER OR WHATEVER. 
          SO, BUT THERE, BUT THERE IS POSSIBLY AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ACCOMPLISH SOME OF THOSE THINGS WITHOUT HAVING TO BOND AS GREAT AN AMOUNT OF MONEY. 
          THAT'S WHAT THE ADVENTURE, IT COULD BE AT THE EXPENSE OF ALL THE WORK WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST. 
          NO, IT'S A, IT'S TWO YEARS SPECIFICALLY SOME PROJECTS, PROJECTS THAT HAVE NOT EVEN BEGUN YET AND ARE MEETING ROADBLOCKS AND SO IT WOULD MAKE SO MAKE SENSE A PROJECT TO SAY LIKE A PLAYGROUND WHERE WE ALREADY KNOW WE'RE GONNA PUT IT IN AND WE KNEW WE WERE GONNA DO WHAT WE HAD TO WAIT FOR THE GROUND TO THAW AND THE GROUND TO GET READY. 
          THOSE THINGS HAVE ALREADY PURCHASED. 
          WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN PURCHASED. 
          THAT'S MY CONCERN. 
          AND WE, I DON'T ANYBODY ABOUT THE PLAYGROUND. 
          IS THERE AN AMENDMENT YOU'D LIKE TO SUGGEST? I THINK YOU KNOW WHAT I'M ALSO SAYING, I THINK MAYBE YOU SHOULD. 
          SO SO YOU HAVE LOT. 
          SO I HAVE A UM, RECURRENT EXAMPLE RIGHT NOW. 
          EXCUSE ME MR. THEY SHOULD EXPECT THE RULES ARE MADE. 
          SO WE HAVE A, THE CURRENT PROJECT FOR THE  SEWER DISTRICT, RIGHT? THE TOTAL RIGHT TAG ON THAT PROJECT IS LIKE 2.3, 2.9. 
          SO WE DECIDED WE'RE GONNA USE AMER RESCUE LINE OF THAT RIGHT NOW THERE ARE APPEARS TO BE AN EXTRA MILLION DOLLARS, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN SPENT. 
          HOWEVER, WHEN WE APPROVE THE AUDITING CASH DISBURSEMENTS, THERE IS $309,000 THAT IS BEING CHARGED DEBT. 
          SO WE'VE ALREADY AWARDED THE CONTRACT, WE'VE AGREED THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE SPENT. 
          WE'RE LIKELY TO SPEND THE FULL 2.9, MAYBE A LITTLE LESS. 
          SO THAT'S THE TYPE OF THING THAT I WANT TO DO IN FRONT OF RIGHT, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          WELL THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE IS IN THE RESOLUTION. 
          WHAT WOULD YOU SUGGEST? I SECOND, I SECOND THE MOTION. 
          THE MOTIONS ALREADY SECONDED. 
          THAT'S WHY WE'RE DISCUSSING. 
          SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST IS AN AMENDMENT THAT SAYS ANY CONTRACT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN AWARDED WITH OUT FUNDS IS EXEMPT. 
          THIS DOESN'T APPLY TO THE HARS MONEY. 
          ANYTHING THAT'S BEEN UNOFFICIAL EARMARK, WE HAVE TO GO ON THAT ANYWAYS. 
          RIGHT? WE HAVE TO GO DOWN THAT AGAIN. 
          BUT IF WE'VE ALREADY VOTED UP TO AWARD A CONTRACT WITH OUT FUNDS, I'M WORRIED, ESPECIALLY IN THE END OF THE SUMMER MONTHS WHERE WE HAVE ONE MEETING PER MONTH AND YOU KNOW, IT'S CONSTRUCTION SEASON. 
          SO I HATE TO DELAY THE VERY IMPORTANT WORK ON THAT'S NOT THE INTENT. 
          I KNOW, BUT I'M TRYING TO PUT IN THE SAME THERE. 
          I UNDERSTAND YOUR INTENT BUT I HAVE VERY SERIOUS CONCERN MS. FARROW, SO I UNDERSTAND. 
          WHAT IS YOUR AMENDMENT SPECIFICALLY? WELL IF, IF THERE'S A PROJECT GOING ON, I'M SORRY, BUT IF THERE'S A PROJECT GOING ON, DOESN'T THAT MEAN IT'S ENCUMBERED ALREADY? DON'T MEAN IT'S IT'S THERE. 
          WELL THERE'S, IT'S EARMARKED WELL THAT I, I'M JUST LOOKING AT VERY SIMPLE LANGUAGE THAT WOULD RECOVERS AND THAT IS, SO I WILL MAKE AN OFFICIAL MOTION TO AMEND THIS RESOLUTION TO EXEMPT ANY CONTRACTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN AWARDED BY THE AMBER TOWN BOARD USING OUR FUNDS. 
          CAN YOU GIVE AN EXAMPLE? I MEAN AS FAR AS NON SERVICE THAT 
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WE BROUGHT, I OPPOSED, I OPPOSED CHANGING THE RESOLUTION. 
          DOES IT MAKE SENSE? NOT GONNA GET THE VOTES. 
          SO YOU JUST TALK ALL DAY BUT YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE VOTES TO GET THROUGH. 
          DOES IT MAKE, WELL COUNCIL BILL, GIVEN THE SERIOUS CONSIDERATION, I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE, I'M ASKING DOES THE AMENDMENT PROVIDE CLARIFICATION THAT'S NOT ALREADY THERE IN THE RESOLUTION AS WRITTEN? WELL THE ALBERT HAS A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY TO BE FRANK. 
          AND SO WHETHER YOU ASK THIS RESOLUTION OR NOT, YOU PROBABLY HAVE THE SAME ALTERNATIVES AVAILABLE TO SOME EXTENT. 
          OUR RESOLUTION, THE PURPOSE OF THIS COURSE IS TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE OF RECAPTURE AND I JUST SPOKE WITH FINANCE DIRECTOR TO CLARIFY THE REASON THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME CONCERN ALSO IS THE ARPA ARPA FUNDS ARE DIFFERENT BECAUSE THERE'S A TIMEOUT, THERE'S A BIT OF A DEADLINE CONCERN THAT IF WE DON'T SPEND IT, WE HAVE TO CONTRACT FIRST BY THE END OF 24, 2024 AND SPEND BY THE END OF 26. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO THAT IS AN OUT OUTSIDE OUTLIER IN TERMS OF A TIME RISE THAT YOU HAVE TO ALWAYS KEEP IN MIND. 
          BUT ULTIMATELY, UM, IF YOU, THIS, THIS IS NOT AN OFFENSIVE SO TO SPEAK OR LEGAL RESOLUTION, THE TOWN BOARD IS, WHETHER THIS WAS THERE OR NOT, WOULD HAVE THE POWER TO STOP A CONTRACT TO TERMINATE OR, OR UN NOT FUND CERTAIN THINGS. 
          IT COULD STEP IN, IT HAS TO APPROVE EVERY TWO WEEKS WE DO AN AUDIT OF CASH DISBURSEMENTS AND APPROVE THOSE. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S, I THINK IT'S, IT'S IT PURPOSE. 
          THIS APPEARS TO BE AS WE'RE TRYING TO FOCUS ON THIS RECAPTURE, I THINK, I THINK WE'RE, WE MAY BE SPINNING OUR WHEELS A LITTLE BIT HERE AND THEN WE'RE NOT REALLY DISAGREEING. 
          SO I MEAN I'M, I'M NOT SO DOES THE AMENDMENT REALLY CHANGE ANY UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT DOES. 
          I MEAN IT'S HARD TO SAY BECAUSE YOU'RE USING SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT WORDS BUT THEY SEEM TO BE THE SAME THING ON ENCUMBER, ET CETERA. 
          SO, SO IF GOING FORWARD, IF ANY CONTRACTOR WHO'S CURRENTLY WORKING ON A PROJECT BUT IT IS NOT COMPLETE OR HAD THE ASSURANCE FOR US, SO LIKE WE HIRED THEM BUT THEY HAVEN'T PUT GROUND SHOVELED TO GROUND, WE ARE NOT GOING TO THEN GO BACK AND TELL THEM AFTER THEY SUBMIT THE FIRST BILL, WHICH WE DON'T WANNA, WE ALWAYS HAVE A RIGHT TO OBJECT, BUT I THINK, NO, I THINK SHE'S ASKING THE OPPOSITE. 
          YEAH, WE WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE A SITUATION WE DON'T GET TOO FAR DOWN THE ROAD AND THEN GET SUED BECAUSE WE GOT A LITTLE TOO AHEAD OF OURSELVES WITH THE PLEDGE OR WHATEVER THE CONTRACT. 
          I MEAN I SEE CONTRACTS, I THINK THE LANGUAGE, I JUST DON'T WANT TRACTORS TO AVOID IT PROCESS BECAUSE THEY DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA PAY THE IT'S NEVER THE INTENT. 
          NEVER THE INTENT. 
          DOES THE, DOES THE AMENDMENT ADD ANY CLARIFICATION OR IS IT NEEDED OR IS IT ALREADY ESTABLISHED IS TO BOARD CHECK? WELL YOU HAVE TO DO THAT ALL EXPENDITURE. 
          THE TOWN FUNDS HAVE TO DO BY TO BOARD. 
          THAT'S WHY I SAID STARTED WITH MY COMMENT INITIALLY. 
          THAT'S WHY IT GAVE ATTACHMENTS BACK YET IT'S MORE THE TIMING AND BECAUSE OF THE SPECIAL NATURE OF I THINK THE HARPA FUNDS. 
          THAT SEEMS TO BE THE GENESIS OF, OF THIS. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S MY JUST FROM READING IT. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT, I THINK IT'S UH, PEOPLE HAVE A FOCUS IN MIND. 
          IT COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED. 
          IT CERTAINLY ACCOMPLISHES IT. 
          I DON'T THINK IT REALLY CHANGES THE BIG PICTURE THAT MUCH THERE ANY HARM IN I PROPOSED, WHICH HASN'T BEEN SECOND. 
          I'M JUDGE I HARM IN ANYTHING YOU'VE SAID SO FAR AND THERE'S NOTHING ILLEGAL, BUT ANYTHING ANYBODY'S DISCUSSED SO FAR. 
          SO WE I'VE HEARD A MOTION WE MOTION TO AMEND BEFORE WE JUDGE DISCUSS ANY FURTHER WE NEED SECOND, I'LL GIVE YOU SECOND. 
          FOR THE VENDORS THAT WE, WE WORK WITH AND CONTRACTORS WE WORK WITH, WE LOG RESOLUTION TO ADD LANGUAGE THAT WOULD EXEMPT ANY CONTRACTS THAT HAVE BEEN AWARDED BY THE TOWN BOARD AND FUNDED BY AMERICAN RESCUE LATIN BUS HAY OR CAN I JUST SURE. 
          THE WAY YOU SAY THAT CONTRACTS AWARD AWARDED BEFORE, UM, THE DATE AND OF, AND WORK HAS CONNECTED. 
          YEAH. 
          SO ESTIMATE, YEAH. 
          VE WE HAVE, WE HAVE CONTRACT HAS BEEN AWARDED, WE'RE USE RECIPE FUNDS. 
          I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO HAVE RIGHT. 
          WHICH COME BACK TO TOWN BOARD OR ABOVE. 
          IF WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE BETTER THAT AND WE CAN ADD THE WORDS AND WORD COMMENCED, DOES THAT HELP CLARIFY IT? AND, AND AND THE WORK HAS COMMENCED OR THAT IF YOU WANT, IF YOU WANT ADDITIONAL COMMENTARY, I JUST WORD I ONLY THING CAREFUL CONCERNING THE WORDING IS THAT YOU DON'T WANNA ALSO TIE A BALANCE. 
          YOU DON'T WANT TO TIE YOUR HAND. 
          WE CAN'T ALWAYS STEP OUT OF A CONTRACT AT WI AT OUR WHIM AND NOT FACE A POSSIBLE BREACH OF CONTRACT CLAIM. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          THAT'S WHY THIS IS AS IT IS. 
          WELL MR. FARRELL THOUGH, WHEN THIS LANGUAGE RIGHT HERE SAYS, AND YOU GUYS TALK A LOT ABOUT IT, BUT IT SAYS RIGHT HERE, I THINK THIS IS VERY CRYSTAL CLEAR. 
          I THINK YOU GUYS ARE BEING A LITTLE BIT VERBOSE BY TRYING TO CHANGE IT. 
          IT SAYS ALONG WITH FUNDS 
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PREVIOUSLY EARMARKED FOR PROJECTS BUT NOT ENCUMBERED OR SPENT. 
          THAT MEANS THERE'S NO CONTRACT THAT MEANS PREVIOUSLY EARMARKED BUT NOT ENCUMBERED. 
          OKAY. 
          AND FUNDS NOT EARMARKED OR SPENT THUS FAR. 
          SO TO ME, BASED ON MY, MY INTERPRETATION OF CONTRACT, WELL I'M A LAWYER LIKE YOU ARE, IT SAYS ALONG WITH FUNDS, PREVIOUSLY MARKED FUNDS NOT ENCUMBERED. 
          NOW IF THERE WAS A CONTRACT THAT WOULD IMPLY THAT THE FUNDS WERE ENCUMBERED, WOULD IT NOT? WELL, YES OR NO? I THINK IF I, IT WOULD MEAN THAT THERE'S A CONTRACT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN OKAY BUT BASED ON YOUR MEANING ENCUMBERED BUT FRANK, SORRY COUNCILMAN AL. 
          THE POINT WAS, AND MY COMMENTS WERE DIRECTED TO THE QUESTIONS WHICH INCLUDED THE AMENDMENT WHICH HAD TO DO WITH A DIFFERENT WHAT DOES WHAT I THAN THIS IS, THAN WHAT'S IN HERE. 
          THAT'S WHY I WAS COMMENTING. 
          SO WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? DOES THIS MEAN THAT EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS BUT IT YOU WHAT IT SAYS, IT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. 
          SO WE HAVE ALONG IN A SECOND. 
          I JUST WANNA SAY THAT THIS SYMBOL ADDITION WOULD MAKE ME FEEL MUCH BETTER UPON SOLUTION. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? UM, ANSWER. 
          OKAY, MOVING RIGHT ALONG THE AMENDMENT. 
          HOPEFULLY AMEND PREVIOUSLY AWARDED UM, CONTRACTS AND THERE WERE TO BE PAID WITH SEVERAL FUNDS, UM, BEING UH, THERE COULD BE UNSPENT FUNDS THAT THEY'RE EXEMPT FROM. 
          THAT WORKS PASS MY WIFE BACK. 
          SORRY . 
          WE'RE AT DENVER POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          THE VACANCY OF SENIOR POLICE ISSUED THROUGH ACADEMY MULLOCK FOR JANUARY 12TH, 2024. 
          NOW THEREFORE RESOLVE RECOMMENDATION THAT CHIEF POLICE WERE BROUGHT IN AIRLOCK PROBATION FULLTIME PHYSICIANS SECRET POLICE ONE TIME CIVIL SURGERY TRANSFER, RIGHT FRIDAY, JANUARY WE RESOLVE THE STRATEGY ONE PER HOUR BE IN FAVOR A VENGEANCE CARRIED BID TO PROCURE VEHICLE MAINTENANCE WILL BE DATABASE. 
          NOW THEREFORE WE RESOLVE ORDER POLICE VEHICLE MEANS. 
          SO MOTION. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL FAVOR. 
          AYE. 
          CARRIED WHERE POLICE DEPARTMENT AGREEMENT INC. 
          BODY CAMERAS AND SERVICES PRESENT SERVICES AGREEMENT AGAINST TWO WHERE JOHN HENRY SERVICES APPROPRIATE AND CONTRACT STATED NEW POLICE DOLLARS RECEIVED THEREFORE BE RESOLVED. 
          THE ALLEGATION BEGINNING APRIL 400 ACCESS YEARS WITH BILL ADD $142,040 74 CENTS AND B RESOLVED NINE FIVE THEREFORE FIVE SECOND. 
          AYE BOTH BE RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVES THE TERMINATION IN HIRING OF THE FOLLOWING EMPLOYEES IN THE BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS DEPARTMENT. 
          SO MOVED. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          A OPPOSED AB EXTENSIONS CARRIED. 
          WHERE IS THE BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS DEPARTMENT HAS A NEED TO REPLACE THE STAIRS ON THE POLICE GARAGE AND TOWN HALL ROOFTOP FEE. 
          IT RESOLVED WITH THE BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS DEPARTMENT AT  AGREEMENT WITH JAMESON ROOFING. 
          A LOCAL CONTRACT WITH HARRIS COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND COOPERATIVE AGENCY THAT THE TOWN ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH IN 2022, WHICH USES UNION LABOR AND PAY PREVAILING WAGE TO ASSEMBLE METAL FABRICATED STAIRS FOR THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF $6,825. 
          FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE ON A 1 62 0 0.33 WITH ADDITIONAL FUNDS OF NO MORE THAN $4,000 TO BE TRANSFERRED FROM A 1 62 0 0.413 TO A 1 6 2 3 0.303. 
          SO MOVED. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR A A AYE EXTENSIONS WE COMPOUND RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM DAVID FOR THE RUNNING DEVELOPMENT PROPERTY CONSISTING OF APPROXIMATELY THREE INCREASE SOUTH WEST BOULEVARD  IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT  PROJECT TO BE RISE OF TWO FOR SITE PURPOSE AND WHEREAS SUBMITTING LETTER HAVE THOUSAND AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND WHEREAS APPLICANT PRESENTED TO THE GENERAL BOARD OF WORK ALLY TOWN BOARD THIS REQUEST NOW THEREFORE DID RESOLVE THE INTEREST BOARD HEREBY 
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REQUEST THE APPLICATION, FOUND OUT THE UNION FREEDOM ZONING REQUEST TO ANY BOARD FOR REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION AND BE FURTHER RESOLVE THE  BOARD. 
          WOULD WHITE DEVI ACCORD FOR THE NEW STATE ENVIRONMENTAL WATER TO DO HEREBY AUTHORIZE THE LENDING TERMS TO PERFORM THE APPROPRIATE PANELS AND COMPLETE THE REQUIRED FER? NO MOTION. 
          SECOND, I'VE GOT A QUESTION. 
          I JUST, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ON THIS AND I WAS LOOKING FOR CLARIFICATION. 
          SO WE RECEIVED SOME INFORMATION LATE FROM THE APPLICANT AND IT WASN'T EXACTLY WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR. 
          I THINK I SPOKE WITH ANNALISE ABOUT IT THAT I WAS LOOKING FOR THE, HOW THEY THESE CHANGES TO THE PUT, ESPECIALLY UP IN THAT CORNER, ARE GONNA SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE THE POPULATION DENSITY WHEN IN COMPARISON TO THEIR ORIGINAL PROJECTS THAT THEY PRESENTED FOR THAT AREA. 
          UM, AND THEN GIVEN THAT IF, IF WE APPROVE THIS, EMILY, NOW CLARIFY FOR ME, IF WE APPROVE THIS, IT STILL HAS TO GO BACK TO THE PLANNING BOARD AND THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THIS GOES IN BECAUSE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S PRESENTED SOME SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PROJECT AS WELL. 
          CORRECT. 
          CAN YOU GUYS MAKE THE FINAL DECISION BECAUSE THIS IS A RESULT THAT'S RIGHT. 
          WE IT'S UP TO US, CORRECT? YEAH, SO YOU GUYS MAKE THE FINAL DECISION. 
          SO IT'S JUST SAYING THAT THEY CAN START THE REZONING PROCESS, SUBMIT THE APPLICATION NOW. 
          'CAUSE I, MY UNDERSTANDING IS ESPECIALLY IN THIS FIRE DISTRICT, 'CAUSE IT'S A HIGHER BUILDING, THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE EQUIPMENT TO IF THERE'S A FIRE. 
          IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING? UM, I'VE HEARD THIS COMMENT BE BROUGHT UP IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT AS JOSH SAID AT THE BEGINNING, THE SEEKER AND ALSO AT STATE PLAN OF GOOGLE WHEN WE DO OUR COORDINATED REVIEW. 
          SO AGAIN, JUST TO CLARIFY HOW THE PUD AMENDMENT IS TREATED LIKE A REZONING. 
          SO YOU GUYS HAVE HAD MULTIPLE REZONINGS IN FRONT OF YOU WHERE YOU ARE THE, THE LEAD AGENCY AND YOU'RE THE END DECISION MAKER. 
          THE REZONINGS MAKE THEIR APPLICATION TO THE TOWN BOARD AND THEN YOU GUYS REFER IT TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR THEIR REVIEW. 
          THEY TALK ABOUT RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          YOU GUYS VIEW THAT AND MAKE YOUR ULTIMATE DECISIONS BECAUSE THE, THE ZONE, THE ZONING MAP IS LOCAL LAW. 
          SO WHEN LOCAL LAWS NEED TO BE A AMENDED, THAT'S YOUR DECISION. 
          THAT'S WHY YOU GUYS ARE LEAVING . 
          SO THIS IS JUST AUTHORIZING THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE TO SUBMIT ATTRIBUTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IS THAT CLEAR YOU THE QUESTIONS? YES. 
          WE CAN ALSO GET, SO YOU'LL ALSO GET ANSWER. 
          I'LL MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW THE PROBLEMS HERE. 
          WE'LL REACH OUT AND MAKE SURE THAT UM, THERE'S THAT COMPARISON GIVEN FOR WHAT IS UM, GONNA BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DENSITY AND THEIR OLD UH, CONTROLS ON THEIR CURRENT PROPOSAL, RIGHT? 'CAUSE THAT EUD HAS ALREADY BEEN CHANGED TWO OTHER TIMES ON CORNER. 
          SO THIS IS GONNA BE THE THIRD CHANGE WE PUT THROUGH IN LESS THAN A YEAR ON THAT CORNER, WHICH DEFINITELY IS GONNA INCREASE THE DENSITY. 
          AND I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT, YEAH THE SCHOOLS WE NEED TO REACH OUT TO SCHOOLS. 
          IT'S NORMALLY PART OF THE PLANNING PROCESS IS THAT WE REACH OUT TO THE SCHOOLS AND ASK THEM FOR THEIR INPUT. 
          WE DON'T ALWAYS GIVE IT TO US BUT WE NEED TO BE EXTENDING THAT COURTESY, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE INCREASING THE DENSITY. 
          AND I WANTED TO GET CLARIFICATION TOO. 
          I'LL TALK TO YOU LATER OF WHAT THEY CONSIDER TEACH CHILDREN BECAUSE NEW YORK STATE JUST WENT THROUGH AND CHANGED SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND IT'S NOW 364 DAYS BEYOND YOUR 21ST BIRTHDAY. 
          SO WE NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT THAT AS RESIDENTS 22 AND UNDER ARE REALLY CONSIDERED CHILDREN AND EDUCATIONAL AND THAT'S ALREADY BECOMING PRETTY DENSE AS FAR AS THE CHANGES THAT THEY'VE MADE. 
          I MEAN HISTORICALLY THAT WAS GREEN SPACE. 
          I MEAN I KNOW THINGS CHANGE, UH, BUT IN, YOU KNOW, SINCE UH, YOU KNOW WITHIN THE LAST YEAR IT'S PRETTY DENSELY POPULATED AREAS. 
          SO I MEAN WE CAN, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          SO YOU'LL HAVE THAT INFORMATION  BEFORE ANY DECISION APPROVAL DENIAL DECISION CASE. 
          BUT THIS IS JUST AUTHORIZING THAT THEY START THE PROCESS. 
          OH, THOSE FAVOR? AYE SAYING HONOR. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? OPPOSED. 
          I'M OPPOSED. 
          SUPERVISOR I OPPOSED, I'M OPPOSED. 
          WHOA, LOOK AT THIS WORKING GATHERED YOU TWO  PA YOUTH RECREATION SENIOR SERVICES BEING RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD  TERMINATION AND HIRING A PERSONNEL IN THE DEPARTMENT OF YOUTH AND RECREATION SENIOR SERVICES HAS FOLLOWED AS LISTED. 
          SO SECOND. 
          ALL FAVOR A AYE , WHERE COMP HENRY UH, HAS OFFICE HENRY BLUE NEAR 600 SOUTH NEW YORK 4 0 7 5 AND THE CSC OFFICE LOOK  SWEEP OF NEW YORK 12. 
          AND WHERE THE PARTIES OCTOBER 25TH THE 
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PROVISION BY THE EMPLOYER. 
          WHERE IS PARTIES VERY CO SET OF BENEFITS, TERMS OF CONDITIONS PROVIDE THE ON SHELL PROVIDE  TO THE EMPLOYERS COVERED EMPLOYEES UNDER THOSE PLAN ESTABLISHED BY THE SO FOR TELEVISION, THE EMPLOYER SHALL HIT EMPLOYEE FOR A MONTH. 
          SILVER TELEVISION PLAN JANUARY AS LISTED. 
          THIS RENEWAL WRITTEN BACK JANUARY 1ST 26 WAS SECTION TWO AGREEMENT SUBJECT EARLY TERMINATION BEVERAGE DECERTIFICATION OF CSEA AS REPRESENTED EMPLOYEES IN REGARD REGARD COVER EXCEPT AS DISCRE MATTER TERMS AGREEMENT IDENTIFI CONFIRM INC. 
          REFERENCE RESULT DOWN BOARD UNDER AGREEMENT. 
          SO SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? THAT CARRIED. 
          YOUR IS NO CROSS LEGAL WASN'T IF WE WERE, WE DIDN'T COORDINATE LEGAL TIME WHERE INCLUDING AGREED THEREFORE WE RESOLVED GESTURE PROPERTY BE FURTHER DATE AVAILABLE 8 9 4 40. 
          SO FAVOR, FOLLOW VERY BUCKET TRUCK PURCHASE RESOLVED AND THE TOWN BOARD  HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT TO PURCHASE ONE VIEW 2013  MODEL T THREE 70 BUCK TRUCK FROM SETTLEMENT ANGELO DBA LATE COUNTRY AUCTIONS WITH PAYMENT MADE THE SETTLEMENT ANGELO OVER 65,900 FUNDS AVAILABLE IN COUNT DB 5 1 3 2 1 ON RESOLUTION ON THE RESOLUTION JUST FOR ACCURACY AND CONSISTENCY, I'D REQUEST TO BE AMENDED IN THE LAST LINE TO REFLECT THAT SALVATO ANGELO SHOULD BE SALVATO ANGELO DBA LAKE COUNTRY AUCTIONS, UH, MAKE COMPLETE MOTION TO STATED SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDED OF THE AMENDMENT. 
          SAY AYE. 
          A AYE OPPOSED AB OBJECT CARRIED BACK TO THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          OPPOSED? AB OBJECT CARRIED THE RESULT EVERY TIME IS HERE BY THE REQUEST BY MAKE SURE ALL YOUR FIRE OPPOSED MEMBERSHIP FOLLOW. 
          PETER. 
          TODAY IS . 
          KAYLA HAILEY, STORM STEWART, HOW IS THE CAPTAIN? MARIA GITO ALL FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? RESULT BOARD IS HERE. 
          APPROVE REQUEST ROLL NON FILES RIVER BURY SOME MOTION. 
          SECOND. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? ? WHAT'S THAT GEORGE AGAIN WHERE GENERAL MS. BE AND WE'RE GOING USE TO BE AS OTHERIZED PROVIDED BY THE LAW PROVIDES THAT THE AUTHORITIES HAVE CONTROL OF FIRE DEPARTMENT, FIRE COMPANY AND AUTHORIZED THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OF FIRE COMPANY PROVIDE EMERGENCY AND GENERAL AND SERVICE THE INCLUDING EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICE AND AS ASSIGNED DEFINED SECTION 3001 OF PUBLIC HEALTH LAW MAY FIX A SCHEDULE OF FEES OR CHARGE TO BE PAID THAT PERSON'S REQUESTING SUCH SERVICES OR SERVICES. 
          THE CONTACTS CONTENTS, UH, AS FOLLOWS, ARE AS LISTED AS THEY PERTAIN TO ITEM NUMBER 30. 
          SO SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS CARRIED. 
          UH, NOT WITHDRAWN. 
          WE'RE 31. 
          WE'RE NOT 36, BUT WE, WE MADE THE SUGGESTION TO MOVE BUSINESS TO THE FLOOR TO NUMBER 36 AND EXECUTIVE SESSION TO NUMBER 37. 
          THAT WAY WE CAN THE RESIDENT. 
          SO, UH, BEFORE WE DO THAT, I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE TOWN BOARD AUDIT CASH DISBURSEMENTS DASH ARTICLE DATED THE 25TH OF MARCH, 2020 OCTOBER. 
          TOTAL ARTICLE CASH DISBURSEMENTS SUBMITTED FOR AUDIT $348,100. 
          SO SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          GOOD. 
          ALL FAVOR. 
          AYE. 
          A OPPOSED? THANK PLEASE. 
          CARRIED. 
          ALSO LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE TENABLE AUDIT 
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CASH. 
          THIS PERSON STATED 25TH OF MARCH, 2024. 
          THE WHOLE CATCH THIS PERSON SUBMIT FOR AUDIT. 
          706 $7,000 WORTH $11 80 CENTS. 
          SO MOTION. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL THERE OPPOSED? SEND CARRIED. 
          THIS BRINGS TO BUSINESS FROM FLOOR. 
          WE'D LIKE TO SPEAK, WE ASK THAT YOU COME UP THE FRONT. 
          USE THE MICROPHONE MINUTES FOR A FEW MINUTES. 
          HI, MY NAME IS DIANE PATTON. 
          I AM A VETERAN, AN LGBT VETERAN. 
          I AM CURRENTLY THE NATIONAL COMMANDER OF VETERANS DEFENDING DEMOCRACY AND I'M ON THE NEW YORK STATE VETERANS COMMITTEE. 
          THIS PAST WEEK I LEARNED SEVERAL MEMBERS OF OUR AMBER VETERANS COMMITTEE SENT A LETTER WITH INTENT TO BLOCK ANY FLAG EXCEPT FOR TOWN STATE NATIONAL FLAG FLY. 
          THIS GOES, THIS DIRECTLY GOES AGAINST THE MISSION STATEMENT OF THAT COMMITTEE PURPOSE. 
          THIS ANOTHER ATTEMPT TO KEEP PRIDE FLAG FROM BEING DISPLAYED. 
          THE VETERANS COMMITTEE MISSION STATEMENT IS SOLID. 
          THE VETERANS COMMITTEE IS DEDICATED TO RECOGNIZING THE SACRIFICE OF SERVICE CHAMBERS, VETERANS AND THEIR FAMILIES TO LEVERAGE GLOBAL, STATE AND MEDICAL AGENCIES FOR BETTERMENT OR OUR VETERANS. 
          AND TO SOCIALLY THAT PART SHOULD SAY ALL OUR VETERANS AND TO SOCIALLY AND ECONOMICALLY INTEGRATE VETERANS AND THEIR FAMILIES INTO HAMBURG IN WESTERN UNITED SOCIALLY AND ECONOMICALLY INTEGRATED. 
          THIS IS PART OF THIS, THIS IS THE PART THIS COMMITTEE DOESN'T SEEM TO RECOGNIZE. 
          LGBT VETERANS WANT TO BE INCLUDED IN THEIR ACCOUNT WHEN A VETERANS COMMITTEE, WHICH DOESN'T HAVE ANY DIVERSITY ON IT AND THEN PROCEEDS TO SOCIALLY EXCLUDE ARE LGBT VETERANS FROM BEING A PART OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          THE MESSAGE IS LOUD AND CLEAR. 
          LGBT VETERANS ARE NOT WELCOME IN HAMBURG. 
          THAT'S WHAT THAT MESSAGE IS. 
          THIS GOES AGAINST EVERYTHING I KNOW ABOUT OUR TOWN. 
          LET'S NOT FORGET THE MESSAGE THIS SENDS TO OUR, YEAH, LET'S NOT FORGET THIS. 
          WHAT THIS METHOD SENDS TO OUR NON-VETERAN FAMILIES AND OUR LGBT KIDS. 
          THIS METHOD SAYS VETERANS DO NOT SUPPORT AND DEFEND OUR LGBT NEIGHBORS, VETERANS AND KIDS. 
          THIS IS WRONG AND THAT COMMITTEE DOES NOT SPEAK ON BEHALF OF ALL VETERANS. 
          THE COMMITTEE IS SUPPOSED TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF OUR VETERANS AND PROVIDE STORY. 
          THOSE MEMBERS WHO SIGNED THE LETTER IN DIRECT VIOLATION OF THE PURVIEW OF THEIR STATION OF THAT COMMITTEE SHOULD BE RECONSIDERED IMMEDIATELY AS TO NOT GIVE THE VIEW OF OUR TOWN AND VETERANS BEING ASSOCIATED WITH ANY DISCRIMINATION. 
          I AM PROUD TO BE A VETERAN FROM HAMBURG. 
          PLEASE KEEP IT THAT WAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OH, UM, ONE THING TOO, IF THAT, THAT BOARD REALLY WANTS TO DO SOMETHING, THERE'S A REALLY IMPORTANT BILL UP IN OUR STATE RIGHT NOW. 
          S 7 3 7 9. 
          IT'S FOR THE NATIONAL GUARD THAT WAS IN NINE 11. 
          THEY'RE BEING SCREWED ON THEIR, UM, BENEFITS AND THIS BILL WOULD ALLOW 'EM TO GO TO THE VA FOR HEALTHCARE. 
          UH, THE FUNDS FROM THE BILL IS . 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, EXCUSE ME. 
          UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. 
          I'M ALSO 80, UH, I AM ON THE COMMITTEE. 
          UM, EVERYBODY RECEIVED A LETTER, UM, THAT THE, UH, COMMITTEE PUT TOGETHER. 
          BASICALLY WHAT THEY WANT US TO DO IS, IS COME BEFORE BOARD HERE AND HAVE A POLICY. 
          AND MY SUGGESTION TO THE POLICY WAS TO PUT UP THE FLAGS THAT ARE RECOGNIZED BY THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THE SO AND SO THAT INCLUDED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO BE HEARD? OKAY. 
          I, SORRY, I KIND OF KIND GOES OFF THERE FOR, BUT AS FAR AS LOSING FOCUS GOES, I WASN'T SURE IF THIS WAS THE PART AT THE END OF THE PUBLIC, UM, WITH REGARDS TO THE MECHANICS OF THE ICE RINK THAT EVERYONE SAID, WE'RE ALL IN FAVOR OF DOING THIS WITH THE BOND. 
          I BELIEVE IT'S 7 MILLION GETTING SHOT DOWN. 
          WHAT IS THE STATUS AND THE PLAN MOVING FORWARD FOR JUST THAT PART OF IT INSTALLING THAT? BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT WAS COMPLETELY EXPLAINED AND DISCUSSED. 
          UM, I CAN TELL YOU FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, PERSPECTIVE, I, I, I DON'T, HONESTLY, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I DON'T KNOW IF I REALLY NEED ANYONE'S PERSPECTIVE OR WHAT THEY HOPE HAPPENS. 
          JUST WHAT IS GOING TO ACTUALLY HAPPEN 
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WITH THE MACHINERY THAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS WAS ORDERED. 
          RIGHT? SO IT'S EITHER HERE OR ON ITS WAY. 
          I I HOPE IT'S HERE OR IT'S SUPPOSED TO START APRIL 15. 
          UM, SO IF WE HAVE THIS, HAVE THESE MECHANICS, WHAT, WHAT EXACTLY IS THE PLAN FOR THEM? IS IT, ARE THEY GOING TO BE INSTALLED NOW THAT THE BOARD IS VOTED THE WAY IT HAS? I MEAN, JUST WHAT IS THE FUTURE OF, OF THIS? SO, UM, IT'S MARCH, MARCH 25TH. 
          OUR NEXT MEETING IS APRIL 9TH. 
          IT'S ON A TUESDAY. 
          MY HOPE IS FOR THE FOLKS THAT VOTED AGAINST THE BOND RESOLUTION TONIGHT ARE ABLE TO, TO BRING TO THE BOARD RESOLUTION AND PERHAPS WILL REALLOCATE SOME AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDING THAT WE'LL DISCUSS THIS EVENING. 
          UM, OR PERHAPS LOOK AT, I MEAN, I WOULD BE VERY, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT USING FUND BALANCE TO PAY OUR  FUND TO PAY FOR AN INITIATIVE WE KNOWLEDGE BETTER COLLEGE FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS. 
          SO I KNOW THAT THE, THE FOLKS THAT DID VOTE NO HAVE TALKED ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE'S AREN'T MONEY AVAILABLE AND THAT MAY VERY WELL BE THE CASE. 
          WHETHER IT IS ENOUGH TO PAY FOR THE EQUIPMENT AND INSTALLATION, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, TO DO SOME MATH. 
          BUT MY HOPE IS THAT LEADERSHIP EMERGES AMONG PEOPLE THAT SET KNOWN TONIGHT AND THEY FORWARD FOR THE PLAN. 
          MAKES SENSE. 
          AND OH, GO AHEAD. 
          SURE. 
          SO, UM, I WANNA THANK, UM, MR. TON, OUR ENGINEER, MY CALL ASKED SOME QUESTIONS ON THE ANSWERS. 
          THEN, UH, I'M STILL WAITING ON THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT TO GET SOME NUMBERS, BUT WHAT I ASKED WAS FOR NUMBERS FOR A PERIOD DOWN PROJECT, I DO BE WITH THE SUPERVISOR, UM, TO LOOK AT OTHER FUNDING SOURCES. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HEARD FROM RESIDENTS, UM, ABOUT THIS ISSUE IS THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T WANT THEIR TAXES TO GO UP. 
          UM, THERE'S A DIFFERING VIEWS IS HOW MUCH THEY WOULD GO UP, BUT, UH, I THINK THOMAS JEFFERSON HAD SET ANY GOVERNMENT BIG ENOUGH TO GIVE EVERYONE WHAT THEY WANT AND STRONG ENOUGH TO TAKE IT ALL AWAY. 
          AND FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE RISK STAYS OPEN. 
          AND I, I KNOW OUR TOWN THREE DEPARTMENTS WORKING ON THAT. 
          AND WHEN I AND I SENT A LETTER TO CONFIRM IT, WHAT I THINK THE MISINFORMATION THAT CAME OUT, AND I'M NOT GONNA THROW STONES. 
          PEOPLE CAN BLAME ME. 
          ALL THEY WANT, UM, IS THAT IF WE DON'T VOTE FOR THIS TODAY OR LAST MONTH, THEN THE RING'S NOT GONNA CLOSE. 
          THAT'S NOT TRUE. 
          AND, AND TO ME THAT'S SORT OF POLITICAL RHETORIC AND PEOPLE TALK ABOUT POLITICS, THAT'S POLITICAL RHETORIC. 
          UM, THAT'S, THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT THE CASE. 
          SO, UM, WHAT THAT, WHAT THEY MEANT WAS THAT THEY DIDN'T START THE SEVEN AND A HALF MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT. 
          THAT THAT PROJECT MAY NOT HAVE COME THROUGH, BUT THERE WAS NO GUARANTEE THAT THAT WAS GONNA GET DONE ON TIME ANYWAY, AS SOME OF THE PEOPLE POINTED IT OUT. 
          SO, UM, IT'S A PRIORITY FOR ME. 
          I KNOW IT'S A PRIORITY FOR MR. . 
          I KNOW IT'S A PRIORITY FOR, FOR ALL OF US. 
          I SPOKE WITH, UM, COUNCIL, UM, RE LORENZ ABOUT THIS ISSUE. 
          WE TALKED ALL WEEKEND ABOUT IT, UH, DIFFERENT PEOPLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROVIDED THE PROPER, UM, THE, THE PROPER, UM, ATTENTION TO THIS ISSUE WITHOUT JUST BLINDLY SPENDING MONEY. 
          UM, I LOOKED AT THOSE, THOSE PRINTS AND I, I MEAN, I, I THOUGHT IT WAS OVERPRICED WHAT, WHAT WE WERE GETTING FOR THAT PROJECT. 
          IT WAS ONLY ONE BID THAT CAME IN. 
          NOW IF, IF YOU LOOK AT ONE OF THE RESOLUTIONS WE HAD FOR TODAY, WHEN THERE WAS ONE BID WE, WE PUT IT OUT FOR, FOR ANOTHER BID, I THINK THE BID THE BID WAS TOO HOT. 
          AND, UM, AND I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH DIFFERENT CONSTRUCTIVE PROJECTS. 
          YOU DON'T JUST GO, GO WITH ONE BID. 
          SO, UM, IT'S A PRIORITY. 
          UM, I I KNOW OPINION. 
          UM, AND I'M GLAD YOU, YOU'RE WILLING TO VOLUNTEER FOR YOUR COMMUNITY. 
          I KNOW MR. BETO AND TALK TO HIM ABOUT THAT. 
          I, I AM AN OPTIMIST AND MAYBE, MAYBE SOMETIMES DO A CALL, BUT I THINK THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A BIGGER PROJECT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO WASTE A LOT OF MONEY BEING LET'S GET WHAT WE NEED TO GET DONE FOR THE TOWN ARENA AND THEN LOOKS AT, AT MAYBE A BETTER PROJECT, WHAT, WHATEVER THAT MAY BE. 
          BECAUSE I THINK, AND AND I, AND I, I SAW, HEARD MR. MCDERMOTT TALK ABOUT, I KNOW MR.  HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH MR. MCDERMOTT ABOUT, UM, THE HILBERT COLLEGE HAVING A GIRLS TEAM AND WANTING TO PUT UP MONEY. 
          THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE PUBLIC, PRIVATE, NOT-FOR-PROFIT PARTNERSHIPS. 
          I THINK WE COULD EXPLORE BECAUSE IT'S A WIN-WIN. 
          I KNOW THAT IN LEISURE RINKS, THEY HAVE A SEPARATE AREA FOR THE GIRLS ON SOME OF THEIR OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT I THINK THEY, THEY SHOULD, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO SPEND $8 MILLION TO DO IT. 
          AND SO 
          [05:20:01]
I THINK THERE'S A BALANCE THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH AND I'M GONNA WORK HARD WITH MY COLLEAGUES TO MAKE SURE WE PUT FORTH A FUNDING PROPOSAL. 
          I KNOW MR. ESTONIA'S GOING TO GIVE BACK TO ME THEN EVEN, AND THEN THERE'S SOME DIFFERENCE OF OPINION AND THIS IS AMERICA, THAT'S FINE. 
          BUT PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT HVAC, WHICH IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE OF THE HUMIDITY INSIDE THE RINK IN, IN THE SUMMER. 
          I'M LIKE, WELL IF WE'RE GONNA DO THAT, WE MIGHT AS WELL KEEP THE RING OVER ALL GEAR, RIGHT? BECAUSE THAT THE INTENT PURPOSE, I THINK THE INTENT OF THE AVAC FOR THE SUMMER I'VE RENTED IN FOR LACROSSE, IT'S, IT'S UNBEARABLE IN THERE DEPENDING ON THE DAY. 
          SO I THINK THE IDEA WAS IF THE KIDS CAME AND EVERYTHING BEING IN THERE, IT WOULD BE NICE IF IT WAS COMFORTABLE. 
          AND I'LL TELL YOU, IF WE CAN, IF YOU PUT THE HVAC IN AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO PUT TUR IN THERE, IT'LL BE RENTED ALL SUMMER LONG TOO FOR  COSTS. 
          IT'S GREAT FOR THAT. 
          I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S FANTASTIC. 
          BUT I, I GUESS WHAT I WAS JUST ASKING WAS, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, PHASES ARE GREAT. 
          LOOKING AT OTHER OPTIONS ARE GREAT AND THEN COMING TO PHASES ARE, BUT LIKE YOU SAID, WE, WE NEED ICE TO SKATE AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WE'VE PURCHASED THIS, THESE, YOU KNOW, THE MECHANICS WE NEED TO GET PUT IN, WE NEED TO HAVE THEM PUT IN PROPERLY, WHICH I KNOW IS GONNA COST MONEY. 
          SO AT THE END OF THE DAY IS, IS, YOU KNOW, OUR, I MEAN GOD, I, I'M THE, I'M THE REALIST OF LIKE, OKAY, IS THE TOWN GONNA, IF THEY CAN'T AGREE ON ANYTHING WITHIN TIME, ARE WE GONNA PATCHWORK WHAT WE HAVE, TRY AND GET THROUGH ANOTHER CALENDAR YEAR AND THEN START THE INSTALL SO WE DON'T LOSE ANY MORE TIME INTO SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER. 
          LIKE AT LEAST THEN, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, I'VE COACHED SPORTS SINCE 1998. 
          I'VE SEEN SCHOOL BUDGETS GO UP AND DOWN AND WHEN THEY GO DOWN AND WE LOSE BUSING FOR KIDS AFTER SCHOOL AND WE LOSE THOSE THINGS, YOU LOSE ENTIRE GRADES. 
          YOU LOSE ENTIRE POPULATIONS WHEN KIDS PARTICIPATING IN SPORTS. 
          AND THAT'S ACROSS THE BOARD FOR LIKE, WHETHER IT HAPPENS IN SCHOOL DISTRICT. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE TRAGIC TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT THAT. 
          YEAH, WE DON'T, NONE OF US WANT THAT TO HAPPEN. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I WAS JUST ASKING, IS THERE, I KNOW I WAS TOLD MAYBE I'M MISTAKEN, BUT IF YOU BORROWED FROM THE RAINY FUND DAY AND THEN THE TOWN APPROVED A BOND THAT THE BOND CAN THEN GO WORTH REPLENISHING THE RAINY FUND DAY. 
          LIKE SO IS IT JUST, IF, IF IT'S THE INTENT OF THE BOARD TO DEFINITELY GET THAT MECHANICS INSTALLED, SO WE HAVE ICE ON THE END OF SEPTEMBER, I HOPE, IF NOT SEPTEMBER 15TH, AND WE USUALLY GET IT, THAT, THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE AMAZING. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S THE REAL QUESTION THAT EVERYBODY HERE REALLY WANTED TO KNOW. 
          AND UNFORTUNATELY IT'S SNOWBALLED INTO EVERYTHING ELSE BECAUSE THEY ARE NEEDS AND YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAVE. 
          BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'VE GOTTEN ALONG THIS FAR WITH ICE AND THE BREAK OF THE CONDITION. 
          SO I HAVE, WE HAVE TO PUT A SPEAKER ON A TRIPOD AND PLAY A GAME WITH MUSIC GOING THAT WAY. 
          AND I KNOW JEFF ROTHWELL WILL BE HAPPY ABOUT IT. 
          AT LEAST SHE HAS ICE FROM THAT STAND. 
          SURE. 
          AND YOU KNOW, I, I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, BUT I WENT AND I LOOKED AND I TALKED TO A LOT OF TOWN EMPLOYEES. 
          THERE ARE TWO COMPRESSORS. 
          THERE IS A BACKUP. 
          AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT THE ONE TO KEEP THE OTHER ONE ALIVE. 
          I TALKED ABOUT THAT. 
          BUT THERE, BUT LOOK, I THINK THERE'S ALSO, I MEAN, AND I'VE ASKED, OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT LOOKED INTO IT TOO. 
          THERE'S NOT, I MEAN THERE HAS TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COST SAVINGS IN THE SENSE THAT THESE ARE OLD COMPRESSORS. 
          I IMAGINE OVER A FEW YEARS IF WE PUT SOME NUANCES IN, THEN, THEN WE'RE GONNA GONNA SAVE SOME MONEY ON OUR POWER COSTS BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA BE MORE FUEL EFFICIENT ON HOW THEY, HOW THEY MAKE ICE. 
          SO I, I MEAN I'VE SAID ENOUGH ON IT, BUT I SUPPORT YOU GUYS THAT SAID THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I MEAN, IS THERE AN ANSWER TO THAT OR IS IT STILL WE HAVE TO COME BACK AND DISCUSS IT SO PEOPLE ARE GONNA HAVE TO DISCUSS IT? I WOULD ASK MR. CUSC TO, I'M GONNA BE DOING A PRESENTATION AT THE NEXT WORK SESSION ON THE HOR PROJECT AND THAT'S THE NINTH AT SEVEN O'CLOCK? NO, EARLIER THE WORK SESSION STARTS FIVE. 
          YEAH, BY FIVE 30 NEXT. 
          I GOT SIX LAST NIGHT. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          YEAH. 
          STARTS AT SIX O'CLOCK THEN, THEN. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IS THAT SOMETHING ANYBODY CAN, OKAY. 
          I, I HAVE TO BE MY TRYOUTS AT EIGHT O'CLOCK. 
          WHAT'S KIND OF IMPORTANT AS THE HEAD COACH THAT I BE THERE BECAUSE I WANT TO BE HERE BECAUSE I DIDN'T TRY OUTS BE DOWN. 
          IF I DON'T HAVE US, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'LL GO FIND US EVERYWHERE ELSE. 
          BUT I, LIKE I SAID, I SAID THE LAST YEAR THERE ISN'T MUCH TO BE HAD ELSEWHERE. 
          THE ONLY THING THAT I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY IS THE EQUIPMENT HAS NOT BEEN PURCHASED. 
          WE PUT DOWN A DEPOSIT AND IT IS BEEN ORDERED. 
          THE REASON THAT WE, IT WAS TWO YEAR LEAD TIME TO GET IT HOME. 
          SO IT IS, IT IS BEEN ORDERED, IT'S BEEN A DEPOSIT, BUT WE HAVE NOT PAID FOR IT. 
          AND IT'S HERE, IT'S ON ITS WAY. 
          IT'S ON ITS WAY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THIS ISN'T LIKE AMAZON PRIME, JUST SEND IT BACK. 
          BUT IT'S NOT LIKE THAT AT ALL. 
          NO, I WOULD IMAGINE SO. 
          RIGHT. 
          JUST FRONT, RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'LL TAKE ANYTHING BACK TO AMAZON NOW, BUT I CAN'T IMAGINE THIS KIND PURCHASE IS LIKE, I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE IT, WE HAVE, IT'S, IT'S OUR PROPERTY. 
          WE SHOULD INVEST IN IT. 
          [05:25:01]
SO HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY WE DO. 
          LIKE I'LL FIND OUT IF I MISSPOKE ON PHASE ONE AND TWO I THAT MY, MY THOUGHTS WERE THAT THE PHASE ONE WAS GETTING THE, THE, THE ICE RINK AND EVERYTHING. 
          PHASE TWOS WAS LOCKER ROOMS AND RIGHT. 
          ALL THE OTHER, I SAID THE END OF THE DAY. 
          YES. 
          SO HOWEVER YOU NEED TO RECALIBRATE YOUR PHASES, PLEASE GOD JUST RECALIBRATE AND GIVE US ICE AND WE'LL, WE'LL DEAL. 
          WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH IT FOREVER, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE OTHER PARTS ARE HORRIBLE, YOU KNOW, BY COMPONENTS, BUT, ALRIGHT. 
          ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO BE HEARD? YEP. 
          MR. QUESTION, SO IS IT FEASIBLE THAT THIS R PROJECT WITH THE COMPRESSORS WILL START ON THE 15TH LIKE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SOON, HUH? I WOULD ASSUME SO. 
          OKAY. 
          I MEAN THAT'S, BUT THEN YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU ASSUME YES, I SAID WHEN YOU SAY ASSUME, SO DOES THAT MEAN, DOES SOMETHING ELSE HAVE TO BE VOTED LAUNCH? YES. 
          RIGHT. 
          WELL THE HAVE TO BOTH BONDS ARE ALTERNATE SOURCES TO PAY. 
          WE HAVE DEPOSIT, WE HAVE TO PAY FOR IT, YOU KNOW, NOT THE NEXT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON DOING. 
          LIKE I, FOR , WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE MONIES AVAILABLE. 
          MR. MILITELLO, I THINK LIKE FOR ME WITH THE, WHEN, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE BONDS BEFORE, WHEN BETH BELL TALKED ABOUT THE BONDS COUNCIL, UH, HOW THE RATES ARE ARE HIGHER, BUT WE HAVE OTHER SOURCES OF MONEY. 
          WE HAD A RESOLUTION ABOUT COVID MONEY, ABOUT EARMARKING AND THINGS LIKE THERE'S OTHER SOURCES OF MONEY THAT WE CAN DRAW UPON THAT WE HAVE A FINANCE DIRECTOR. 
          I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD BE CREATIVE ENOUGH TO DO THAT WITHOUT HAVING NECESSARILY RAISE TAXES TO DO IT AND ENCUMBER A PROPERTY FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY OWNED. 
          NOW AGAIN, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT. 
          MAYBE WE GO IN THE, MAYBE IT'S PHASE TWO, PHASE THREE, WHATEVER, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE DO. 
          BUT RIGHT NOW MY FOCUS, AND I THINK WHEN I SPEAK WITH FOR MR. MYSELF AND MR. OSA IS TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE ICE. 
          AND I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS, LIKE BEING A HOCKEY PLAYER, HOCKEY COACH. 
          THAT IS OUR OBJECTIVE AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE WE DO THAT. 
          UM, IT'S IMPORTANT AND THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR, FOR HAMBURG. 
          IT'S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE FROM SPRINGVILLE THAT CAME AND SHOWED UP AT ORCHARD PARK AND OTHER PLACES. 
          AND SO MY QUESTION IS, WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US? THAT'S WHY I TOLD YOU BEFORE THE APRIL 9TH WAS THE MEETING YOU WANNA BE IN. 
          YEAH. 
          AND WE'LL BE BACK. 
          YEAH, WELL THAT'LL BE BACK. 
          BUT MY QUESTION IS, DO YOU NEED ANY FROM US? I ACTUALLY, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THAT PARTNERSHIP YOU MENTIONED WITH BERT FOR THE LOCKER ROOM BECAUSE THAT COULD BE SOMETHING SOME OF THE PEOPLE FROM THE TOWN TELL US THAT THERE'S OTHER SPOTS WHERE THEY COULD CONSTRUCT LOCKER ROOMS AND I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT THAT WOULD BE. 
          YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING. 
          I KNOW THOSE DETAILS. 
          WAS TIM SEAL, THE AD WAS HERE TONIGHT, DID HE ASK ME NOT TO DIVULGE THE FINANCIAL SURE, I AGREE. 
          THEIR FINANCIAL COMMITMENT. 
          UM, BUT I'M SURE IF YOU CALL HIM HE'D BE HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT. 
          AND I MENTIONED TO BETH THAT AMBER KIN'S WILLING TO ASSIST WITH THAT TOO, SHE MENTIONED. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I, AND I ACTUALLY HAVE, I'VE LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS AND I THINK IT'S FEASIBLE. 
          I I THINK THAT'S A, A GREAT PARTNERSHIP TOO, BECAUSE SOME OF THEM WITH THE, I JUST THOUGHT THAT WE HAD ONE BID THAT WE'RE OVERPAYING FOR SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING. 
          BUT YOU'RE SAYING YOU LOOKED AT NUMBERS, I MEAN,  NO, NO, NO. 
          I LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS. 
          THERE WAS A 26 PAGE DOCUMENT THAT CAME IN FROM, AND I NEVER SAY THE NAME CORRECTLY, DEDO DEDO THAT HAD ALL THE COSTS BROKE DOWN AND ALTERNATE. 
          ONE WAS THE TWO NEW LOCKER ROOMS AT THE END OF THE RANK CAME UP TO TH CAME UP TO $380,000 I BELIEVE. 
          LEMME JUST CHECK MY NUMBER. 
          3 89. 
          380,951. 
          UM, WITH HILBERT'S SHARE, THERE'S A SHORTFALL. 
          HAMBURG HAS A CONTRIBUTION, UM, TO BUILD THOSE TWO NEW LOCKER ROOMS. WE'D ASK YOU FOR $85,951. 
          AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, ALL BERT'S ASKING FOR IS A STORAGE AREA NEXT TO IT TO KEEP THEIR, UM, THE EQUIPMENT WENT, WENT WERE, WELL I DON'T THINK THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY FOR DOING THE NO. 
          TALKED ABOUT WITH BEFORE. 
          WE COULD DO THAT PROBABLY IN HOUSE. 
          SURE. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AS WELL. 
          THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT MIGHT, YOU KNOW, THAT WORK IN OUR INTERNALLY FOR THE ORGANIZATION THAT COULD HELP PROTECT PROJECTS AS WELL. 
          I GUESS I'M JUST GONNA SAY I DON'T CARE HOW IT GETS DONE AS LONG AS IT GETS DONE RIGHT. 
          I MEAN, YOU KNOW, AND YOU ARE RIGHT. 
          IT'S A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, BUT NOT REALLY. 
          IT'S A MORE DONATION FROM THEM. 
          TRUE. 
          SO ALL THEY WANNA DO IS HAVE THEIR OWN LOCKER ROOM AND HAMBURG C USE AND SO CAN ALL, ALL THANKS, BUT THAT'S IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR US TO HAPPEN. 
          THAT WAS, YOU 
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KNOW, WHEN YOU MENTIONED THAT THE OTHER DAY. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S WHY THIS IS A GREAT PART OF THE CONVERSATION. 
          SO I AM NOT ONE OF Y'ALL, SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE ALL THOSE NUMBERS GO WHEN THEY GET SUBMITTED. 
          IT IS THERE, I MEAN THE COMMITTEE THAT WAS PROBABLY SITTING HERE WITH THE RINK THAT THEY HAVE IT. 
          SO I, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER THAT  THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU TALKING ABOUT THESE, THESE ACCOUNTS THAT, THAT JILL MENTIONED AND WE'RE GONNA TO USE IT FOR THE SENIOR CENTER AND WE'RE GONNA USE IT FOR THE NIKE BASE AND WE STILL HAVE TO PAY RENT ON THE BUILDING THAT WE'RE IN FROM THE SENIOR CENTER AND WE'LL HAVE TO PAY, UH, THE LEASE FOR THE NEW BUILDING. 
          SO IF WE'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, USE THE SAME MONEY THAT WHOLE TIMES, THAT SOUNDS PRETTY MAGICAL. 
          I DIFFERENT, I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW THAT'S GONNA WORK. 
          THEY'RE DIFFERENT ACCOUNTS. 
          THEY'RE NOT, BUT IT'S STILL ONE SUM THAT WE TALKED ABOUT A 900,000 BABY AND WE STILL NEED THE PLAYGROUNDS. 
          WE STILL NEED TO PAY THE LEASE ON THE CURRENT BUILDING, LEASE ON THE NEW BUILDING. 
          SO IT'S NOT LIKE THERE'S $900,000 SITTING THERE TO FIX AN UGLY BASE. 
          AND IT'S CERTAINLY DISINGENUOUS TO INFER THAT TO THESE PEOPLE. 
          WE ARE STILL GONNA HAVE TO GO THROUGH A BOND PROCESS, WHICH IS A 30 DAY WAITING PERIOD, WHICH MEANS WE ARE, WE WERE ALREADY TWO WEEKS INTO WHAT THEY USUALLY DO. 
          SO TO TELL THEM THAT THE SEASON'S GONNA START ON TIME, IT IS JUST NOT GONNA HAPPEN. 
          AND, AND THAT'S REALLY, REALLY THIS AGENDA. 
          AND I THINK PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE WHEN THE RUBBER HITS THE ROAD, THE PEOPLE HAVE TO BE OUT OF THE SENIOR SEAT. 
          THAT IS GOING TO AT SOME POINT BE A PRIORITY. 
          AND AS I SAID, I SCREAMED FOR A SECOND SHEET OF ICE CREAM GEAR AND THE TOWNS SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ON A LOT OF RESEARCH AND A LOT OF SURVEYS. 
          SO RIGHT NOW THE PRIORITY, I CERTAINLY WANNA SEE A, UH, A GIRL'S LOCKER ROOM. 
          DAVE'S DAUGHTER WAS ON MY SON'S HOUSE. 
          HE, FOR THE FIRST YEAR, SHE STARTED PLAYING. 
          HERE'S THE FIRST GIRL, PLAY IT IN, HAVE HER HERE . 
          AND WE SHARE SOME OF THE SAME FRUSTRATIONS. 
          'CAUSE WHEN I STARTED TO ADD UP EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SPENT ON THIS FOR PLANNING AND INSPECTIONS AND THIS AND THAT AND ALL KINDS OF LAYERS OF THINGS, IT'S LIKE WE COULD HAVE HAD, WE COULD HAD LOCKER ROOMS AND WE COULD HAVE HAD A LOCKER THAT'S ROLE TIMES AND SEVERAL ARCHITECTURAL ASKING QUESTIONS AND CONSULTANTS AND I HAVE LIVED THROUGH ALL THOSE ITERATIONS. 
          WELL, AND THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THE QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW. 
          'CAUSE I WAS VERY CONCERNED TOO WHEN I SAW SOME OF THOSE PLANS AND, AND GOING FORWARD, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER MONEY WE SPEND WE'RE GETTING AS MUCH POSSIBLE FOR THESE ORGANIZATIONS AND IT'S NOT BEING SPENT ON STUDIES AND PLANS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. 
          THERE WAS A WHOLE LOT OF IT. 
          WELL IT STILL THERE, SO, BUT LIKE I SAID, IF THERE'S THOSE TWO ACCOUNTS, BUT WE STILL, WE HAVE TO FIX OUR PLAYGROUNDS. 
          WE HAVE TO FIX OUR PLAYGROUNDS AND IT, THEY, THEY'RE NOT UP TO CODE. 
          I'M TAKING MY GRANDKIDS OUTSIDE OF HAMBURG TO GO TO PLAYGROUNDS. 
          THAT'S VERY SAD. 
          THAT SHOULD NOT BE THE CASE. 
          AND AS I SAID, I AM A RESIDENT THAT HAS BEEN INVOLVED FOR YEARS AND I USE OUR FACILITIES. 
          I'M AT THE SENIOR CENTER. 
          I'M ACTING LIKE THESE THINGS. 
          I RENT TABLE ROAD ROADMAP. 
          I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN ALL ASPECTS AND WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING. 
          AND THE POINT ISN'T TO JUST TRY TO UNDO WHAT SOMEBODY ELSE DID BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE IS GONNA GET CREDIT. 
          YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND HOW THEY CAME TO THAT SEVEN AND A HALF MILLION SAY WE NEED TO COMPROMISE. 
          THAT WAS A HUGE COMPROMISE. 
          THERE WAS A HUGE WHISTLE WISH LIST AND YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND IT, BUT YOU CAN'T SAY THE MONEY'S THERE. 
          OH, THE MONEY'S THERE FOR THE SENIOR CENTER. 
          THE MONEY'S THERE FOR THE NIKE BASE. 
          NO, IT'S NOT. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE TRUTH. 
          WE LIKE BE HEARD. 
          OKAY. 
          NOW AT THIS POINT WE USUALLY GO TO REPORT YOU FOR MINUTES AND SHORTCUT THERE THAT HERE THAT IT IS A REPORT TO DELIVER. 
          PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. 
           ALWAYS ONE. 
          WE'LL START THE BACK WITH CHIEF. 
          DIANE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COULD YOU SAY THAT LOUDER PLEASE? WANNA THANK FOUR OH UH, BODY CAMERAS A GREAT DAY FOR THE DEPARTMENT AND CITIZENS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANKS CHAIR. 
          KEVIN? UH, LITTLE SUGAR BEFORE THE MEDICINE, UH, THE GOLF COURSE IS COMING ALONG REALLY WELL. 
          70, 75% DONE. 
          WE'RE WAITING ON, UH, NICE AND OTHER BIG RESTORATION BEING UP THERE. 
          SOME COMMUNICATION LINES. 
          IT'S SPRINKLER HEADS, BUT, UH, I'M THANKFUL FOR THE SHAPE THAT IT'S IN BECAUSE WE JUST NEED DRY WEATHERS. 
          WE CAN START DOING I RESTORATION. 
          WANNA CLEAR UP SOMETHING THAT FRANK HAS SAID ABOUT WHAT I, HE, 
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HE SENT ME A LETTER OF MY WORDS. 
          SO IN CONTEXT I SAID AS LONG AS OUR, UH, THE CHANGE ORDER THAT WE'RE GONNA PUT TOGETHER AT THE NEXT, FOR THE NEXT MEETING, IT'S APPROVED AND WE COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON THAT, WE CAN MAKE OUR CONSTRUCTION DEADLINE, WHICH I, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE FINE. 
          WE JUST HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THE PROCESS. 
          I WANTED TO THANK EVERY ONE OF YOU GUYS CALLED ME AND ASKED ME FOR NUMBERS AND I PLEADED WITH YOU NOT TO MAKE ME COMMIT TO OR EVEN OFFER AN ESTIMATE. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THAT PROFESSIONALISM. 
          UM, WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THE PROCESS TOMORROW. 
          WE HAVE OUR, ON WEDNESDAY WE HAVE MEETINGS WITH THE CONSULTANTS, UH, THE CONTRACTORS TO DEVELOP THAT CHANGE ORDER. 
          WE'RE GONNA NEED TO GET ALL THE MECHANICALS DONE. 
          AS LONG AS EVERYTHING GOES AS PLANNED AND LIKE WE WANT THE LEADERS ON BOARD FOR IT AND WE CAN AWARD THAT CHANGE ORDER. 
          WE'LL BE ON TRACK TO END LIKE IN SEPTEMBER ON. 
          SO THAT IS THE ENTIRE CONTEXT OF WHAT FRANK AND I WERE TALKING AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKING HAVE TO DO WITH, AGAIN, US BEING WATCHDOG SO THAT WE'RE GETTING WHAT WE NEED TO GET. 
          BECAUSE YOU AND I WERE JUST INVOLVED IN ANOTHER MEETING FOR ANOTHER PROJECT LAST WEEK AND I QUESTIONED A LARGE SUM OF MONEY IN THERE AND YOU AGREED, YOU SAID, YEP, THAT'S TOO HIGH, THAT ESTIMATE IS TOO HIGH. 
          YEAH, WE NEED TO LOOK AT ALL OF THESE THINGS. 
          WHEN I STARTED TO ADD UP FOR THIS PROJECT ALONE, HOW MUCH HAS BEEN SPENT AGAIN ON SOME OF THESE LAYERS OF THINGS. 
          WELL THIS PERSON'S GONNA CHECK THIS SO THIS PERSON CAN DO THAT SO THAT PERSON CAN DESIGN IT. 
          SO THIS, IT'S ALL, I MEAN WHEN I STARTED, I MEAN THEY WERE GETTING CLOSE TO A MILLION DOLLARS ON A PROJECT THAT'S GOING BE 7.5 AND I WANT THAT. 
          I WANT AS MUCH OF THIS MONEY TO GO FOR THINGS FOR THIS FACILITY AND FOR THE USE OF THESE GROUPS AND THESE CHILDREN. 
          SO I GUESS THAT'S THE POINT, RIGHT? SO WE APPRECIATE YOU GOING BACK AND HELPING US GET THAT DONE. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, THAT GIANT CONSULTANCY WAS ALSO BASED ON A $16 MILLION PROJECT. 
          SO IT WAS SCALED BACK FROM  CONSULTANCY SHOWED UP. 
          WE GOTTA REALLY LOOK THROUGH THE DATA TO ACTUALLY SEE THE TRUTH. 
          BUT, UH, WE'LL, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER QUESTIONS BUT TRY TO GET YOU AND THANK YOU THEM FOR NOT ONLY YOU GOT THE NUMBERS NOW. 
          NO, I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS NOW. 
          I WON'T GIVE THEORETICAL GUNS IN MY HEAD. 
          I'D SAY PULL THE TRIGGER FOR US. 
          YEAH, I GOT A VERY QUICK COUPLE ITEMS. UH, MOUNT VERNON SANITARY SEWERS NOW THAT WE'RE WRAPPING UP THE LINING AND REPAIRS, THE NEXT STEP IS TO DO POST-CONSTRUCTION FLOW MONITORING AS REQUIRED BY CONSENT ORDER. 
          WE'RE LOOKING TO GET FILL MONITORS IN THIS WEEK AND WE'LL COLLECT DATA OVER THE NEXT THREE MONTHS. 
          UH, WE ALSO HAD THE MILES STRIP ROAD BRIDGE KICKOFF, UH, MEETING TODAY. 
          UM, THE ONLY WORK GOING ON RIGHT NOW IS TREE CLEARING AND THAT'S BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO TREE FINISH THE TREE CLEARING BEFORE THE END OF THE MONTH TO MEET, UH, US FISH AND WILDLIFE'S PROTECTION OF THE NORTHERN LONG-EARED BAT. 
          UM, THE REAL BULK OF THE WORK IS PLANNED FOR MID-JUNE AND THE BRIAR SEASON AFTER THEY GET THE LARGE PRECAST CONCRETE CULVER SPUR. 
          FINAL ITEM. 
          WE MET WITH ERIE COUNTY HIGHWAY BECAUSE THEY HAVE IN THE WORKS A PLAN TO MILL AND PAVE A PORTION OF MCKINLEY FROM QUIMBEE TO SOUTHWESTERN THAT IS PLANNED FOR 2025. 
          UH, BUT THEY WANTED TO START INFORMING THE TOWN ON THE DETAILS OF THE PROJECT, MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS WELL INFORMED. 
          THEY ARE PLANNING A PUBLIC MEETING AS WELL AS SETTING UP A PROJECT WEBSITE THAT WILL HAVE MORE DETAIL AS SOON AS ANYTHING IS KNOWN ON THAT. 
          THEY WILL SHARE IT WITH THE TOWN. 
          WE WILL POST ON THE WEBSITE SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN BE INFORMED ABOUT THE PROJECT. 
          THAT'S JUST FOR PAVING AS OR AS IT'S ANY TYPE OF RE IT'S NOT RECONFIGURING OR ANYTHING, IT'S JUST VERY, THEY HAVE SOME VERY MINOR RECONFIGURATION, BUT GENERALLY NO, IT'S ALL STAYING WITHIN THE SAME FOOTPRINT. 
          THEY HAVE SOME SMALL ISLANDS WHERE THEY'RE GONNA ADJUST SOME TURNING LANES TO MAKE SURE, UM, THAT FOR SAFETY ISSUES THEY HAVE SOME CROSSWALKS THEY WANNA DO, UM, WHICH WOULD, SOME ARE UPDATES TO THE CURRENT LAYOUT, SOME ARE JUST REDOING THE CURRENT LAYOUTS. 
          UM, BUT THEY'RE STILL FIGURING OUT THOSE DETAILS. 
          THAT'S WHY THEY WANT THE TOWN TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          SO IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR RULES OF ORDER, IT IS NOW 11 O'CLOCK AND OUR MEETING IS ALBERT. 
          SO, UM, CAN YOU CONTACT, UH, IF YOU'RE IN CONTACT WITH THEM, MAKE SURE THEY CONTACT THE WATER AUTHORITY AND THE, UH, THE SEW DEPARTMENT SO IN CASE THEY HAVE TO PUT RISERS IN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO DIG THE ROAD BACK UP. 
          MAYBE THEY GOT PROJECTS THAT THEY I CARRY. 
          THANKS EVERYBODY. 
          IS THAT A GLOBAL WARMING ROLE?
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