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THIS IS A SPECIAL MEETING OF THE RY TOWN BOARD AND AS SUCH, AS WAS CALLED TO, UH, ADDRESS, UM, ONE ISSUE, WHICH WAS A CHANGE ORDER ON THE ICE ARENA CONSTRUCTION.
SO WE WILL FIRST, UH, HEAR A PRESENTATION FROM, UH, MR. ESTONIA ON WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE PROJECT AND WHAT'S NEEDED.
UH, THEN THE TOWN BOARD WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, A RESOLUTION TO EFFECT, UH, THE CHANGES THAT ARE NEEDED DURING THE, UH, DISCUSSION.
MEMBERS FROM THE PUBLIC ARE WELCOME TO STAND, RAISE THEIR HAND, INDICATE THAT THEY'D LIKE TO BE HEARD.
UH, DO WE HAVE A SIGN IN SHEET? WE DO HAVE A SIGN IN SHEET IF YOU'D LIKE TO, TO TALK.
WE ASK YOU TO PLEASE, UH, SIGN UP AND WE'LL CALL YOU IN ORDER.
ONCE WE EXHAUST THE LIST, WE WILL, UH, WE'LL ALLOW THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYBODY ELSE WHO HADN'T BEEN HEARD TO, TO SPEAK, UM, AND THEN WE WILL ENTERTAIN ANY, UH, DISCUSSION FROM THE FLOOR AND, UH, THEN ADJOURN THE MEETING.
ALRIGHT, MR. ESTONIA, CLOSE YOURS.
UH, FIRST THANK YOU IMMENSELY FOR COMING TOGETHER THIS MEETING.
UM, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MUCH I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS.
IT'S SUPER COMPONENT TO THE PROJECT.
UM, AND THEN THAT WE MARK, UH, TIME WITH YOU GUYS TO KNOW EXACTLY THE, WHAT'S GOING ON, UM, WITH ARENA AND HOW CAN GET SOME PROBLEMS THAT WE RAN INTO ADDRESS.
SO THIS IS AN OVERVIEW OF THE CHANGE ORDER THAT, UH, ON TABLE TONIGHT.
BUT, UM, A COUPLE ITEMS THAT POPPED UP THAT ARE TYPICAL, LIKE IN ANY CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, IS YOU GO START GOING THROUGH A PROJECT AND YOU START DOING DEMOLITION AND TRYING TO RETRACE UTILITIES.
WHEN YOU HAVE NO RECORD DRAWINGS OF ANYTHING OR HOW THE BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED, YOU'RE GONNA HIT A FEW ITEMS. THEY'RE, THEY'RE CALLED OVERSEE ITEMS. SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA WALK THROUGH LIKE ADDITIONAL NATURAL GAS PIPING, NATURAL GAS PIPING BUILDINGS.
WE HAD TO MODIFY OUR, UH, THE CONDENSER FOUNDATION AND THE
THAT WAS THE, THOSE ARE THE THREE CHANGE ORDER REQUIREMENTS THAT WE GONNA MEET.
UH, THAT AND THEN THE DESIGN CHANGE REQUEST.
I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS WITH YOU WHY I, I'D LIKE TO PUT THIS IN THE CHANGE ORDER AS WELL AND, AND HOW WE CAN IMPROVE THIS DESIGN.
UM, WE HAVE, WE HAVE ONE SHOT TO GET THIS RIGHT.
UH, IT'S NOT LIKE WE CAN PUT THIS CAP BACK INTO THAT PILLOWCASE AFTER IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S DONE.
SO, UM, I WANNA MAKE A CALCULATED DECISIONS, UM, BUT MOVE FORWARD, MAKING SURE EVERYONE'S ON BOARD WITH SOME OF THE CHANGES.
AND THE TIMELINE WITH HOW THINGS WENT WAS WE AWARDED THE RANK AND THE NATIONAL NORMS, AND THEN WE CAME BACK LATER.
AND THIS LAST WEEK WE AUTHORIZED TO DO THE DESIGNS THAT LOCKED.
SO, LOCKER ROOMS WERE ALMOST LIKE AN ALTERNATE THAT WE'RE IN DISCUSSION, BUT NOW THAT WE'RE DOING, WHICH IS GREAT, WE'RE GONNA, WE MAKE THIS ONE ADJUSTMENT TO OUR RING.
UM, WE'LL SEE HOW MUCH BETTER THE WHOLE PROJECT IS GOING TO TURN OUT.
SO HERE'S OUR INITIAL GAS LINE COMING IN.
AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S GOING THROUGH THE RING LATER IN THE METER AT ONE SIZE.
AND YOU CAN LITERALLY SEE HOW IT CHANGES DIMENSION GOING UP THROUGH THE ROOF, UH, AT THE SERVICE ENTRANCE.
AND THAT RED LINE ON THE LEFT THERE, THAT'S THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED NEW LINE THAT HAS TO BE RUN.
BECAUSE WHEN WE DID THE CHANGE ORDER TO ADD THE ROOFTOP UNIT IN, IT WAS ACTUALLY LOCATED ON THE ROOFTOP NOW 'CAUSE WE'RE, WE WANTED TO KEEP AS POSSIBLE AS POSSIBLE.
UM, WE DID THAT CHANGE ORDER TO DO JUST THE MINIMUM.
WE MOVED THAT, UH, UNIT TO THE BACK OF THE BUILDING.
SO WE HAVE TO RUN SOME NEW PIPELINE.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE ROSS DETERIORATION IN THIS SLIDE HERE, IT SHOULD ALL BE REPLACED NEW.
YOU DON'T WANNA, YOU KNOW, GET INVOLVED WITH OLD PROBLEM, BUT NEW EQUIPMENT IN THE OLD INFRASTRUCTURE IN FRONT OF IT, OR WHEN WE ASKING PROBLEMS. SO THAT'S, UH, ONE CHANGE ORDER THAT NEEDS TO BE, UH, ADDRESSED.
AND THEN EVERY CHANGE ORDER IS BROKEN DOWN RIGHT DOWN TO THE PENNY ON EXACTLY WHAT THE COST IS, WHAT THE TOWN PAYMENT'S GONNA BE.
UH, THIS CHANGE ORDER THAT ING IS SIGNIFICANT.
IT, IT'S EXPENSIVE BECAUSE THAT PLATE, THE MATERIALS ALONE ARE, ARE EXPENSIVE.
UM, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE ACTUALLY PICKED UP JUST 285, $4 85 CENTS.
CAN'T INCREASE THE BONDING AMOUNT FOR, FOR THIS.
SO THERE'S SOME CHECK CHARTS LIKE THAT, LIKE I WAS EXPLAINED BECAUSE PEOPLE SEE THOSE SMALL ITEMS DOWN
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THERE.UM, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT HAS TO BE DONE.
UM, SO THEN, SO WHEN THE CONDENSER IS MOUNTED ON, IT'S ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING, THE EXISTING ONES ON STOOL STRUCTURE.
AND WE SEE THE, SOON AS YOU PULL UP THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING, WHICH WAS SHOT, A NEW ONE PUT IN, UM, THE NEW ONE WOULD NOT FIT ON THE EXISTING STEEL STRUCTURE 'CAUSE IT'S YOU MUCH NEWER DESIGN.
SO WE DEMO ALL THE FOUNDATION AND, UH, AS WE'RE DESIGNING OR AS WE WERE GETTING READY TO MAKE THE FOUNDATIONS, YOU CAN SEE WE RAN INTO UNMARKED UTILITIES.
THESE UTILITIES WEREN'T LOCATED ON ANY DRAWING ANYWHERE.
I THEY WERE DONE PROBABLY 20 YEARS AGO.
ARE THEY LIVE? YEAH, THEY ARE.
ACTUALLY, IF YOU SLIP TO THE ROOM, YOU CAN SEE THAT ONE THAT'S MAYBE A TINY LITTLE COLORED C THAT'S A, THAT'S A WATER LEAK.
THEY FEED THE BATHROOM THAT WAS INSTALLED SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE.
THAT YELLOW, UH, CHOP LINE THERE.
THAT'S A, I THINK THE WAISTLINE.
SO WE, IT'S CHEAPER TO JUST DO A CHANGE, MOVE THE FOUNDATION, DRILL NEW PI.
UM, SECOND FOUNDATION ADJUSTS THE STEEL.
THIS SHORT CHANGE ORDER, UM, VERY SMALL, HAD $5,300.
THE BIG ONE IS THE RAIN FLOOR SAFE.
UM, NOW WHEN WE DEMO THE FLOOR, LIKE I WAS DOCUMENTING YOU ABOUT ALREADY, WHAT WE EXPECTED UNDERNEATH IS NOT WHAT WE FOUND.
SO THERE'S A, A, LIKE A CONCRETE ID TYPE SECTION SUPPORT THAT CREATES A AIR POP UNDERNEATH THE RING IS SORT OF LIKE HEAT SINK.
SO THAT'S ALL THAT ENERGY WE'RE PUTTING INTO THE COLD SLAB DOESN'T GO INTO THE GROUND.
IT'S, IT'S INSULATED WITH THAT AIR ON VENTILATION.
YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE CONCRETE SLABS COMING DOWN, BUT YOU CAN SEE SEVERAL OF 'EM ARE BROKEN.
THAT'S A SEVERE ONE THERE WITH THAT RO CONE ON IT.
THAT'S HOW BIG SOME OF THE GAPS ARE.
MOST OF THE GAPS, THEY VARY FROM 60 TO TO AN INCH TO AN INCH OR TWO.
THOSE GAPS HAVE TO BE, AND THE FACT THAT THE, THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE IS THAT IT'S UNEVEN.
THAT SUBFLOOR IS, IS VERY UNEVEN.
AND WE CAN'T JUST GO IN THERE AND PUT TWO INCHES OF FOAM INSULATION OR DOWN AND THEN POUR CONCRETE AND HAVE UNEVEN, UH, CONCRETE SLAB THROUGHOUT THE SLAB THAT, THAT CONCRETE THAT'S GONNA BE FREEZING THE WATER LEAK.
THE ICE IS GONNA HAVE DIFFERENT TEMPERATURES TO IT.
AND YOU DON'T WANT A SOFT SPOT ON YOUR ICE.
SO YOU WANT UNIFORM SLAB THICKNESS, UH, UNIFORM TEMPERATURE THROUGHOUT NICE, NICE ICE.
SO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS CLOSE UP THE GAPS DOWN AN INCH OF FOAM OR AN INCH OF SAND, AND THEN WE PUT OUR TWO INCHES OF FOAM AND THEN WE GO AND WE BUILD A WHOLE SITE ON TOP OF THAT.
YOU'RE GONNA LEVEL WITH THE SAND? CORRECT.
SO HE'S GONNA COME IN, HE'S GOT A SURVEY, THE WHOLE THING.
UM, I, I HAVE A SPRAY FOAM CONTRACTOR IN TODAY AND HE SPRAY FOAMED ALL THE CRACKS.
SO ALL THE CRACKS ARE SEALED UP.
UM, AND WE CAN COME IN WITH SAND AND, AND START BUILDING UP THIS WEEK.
I DISCOVERED A WHILE AGO, THIS WAS, THIS IS THE THING, WE OPENED IT UP AND EVERYONE WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA CHANGE GEARS ON PLAN ON HOW TO FIX THIS.
SO OUR CONTRACTOR, OUR PRIME, AND THIS IS A MECHANICAL CONTRACTOR, THIS ISN'T HIS AREA.
SO HE WAS DEALING WITH SUBCONTRACTORS.
SO THERE WAS, HE'S GONNA BE THE PRIME GOT SUBS THAT ARE GONNA BE ADDRESSING THIS TYPE OF STUFF.
SO IT TOOK US A LITTLE WHILE TO COME UP WITH A PLAN ON, ON HOW TO, UM, ADDRESS THIS.
AT THE TIME WE FOUND IT, WE WERE THREE WEEKS AHEAD OF SCHEDULE AND A MATTER OF THOSE THREE WEEKS, WE SLIPPED FOUR WEEKS.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT ONE-TO-ONE BECAUSE THAT CONTRACTOR WAS LINED UP, READY TO GO.
SO HE PULLED OFF AND THAT, PLUS WE HAD TO GET OUR CHANGE ORDER IN PLACE AND EVERYTHING ELSE, WHICH WE JUST DID ON TUESDAY AFTERNOON AT ONE WHEN WE HAD THAT MEETING OUT THERE, THE LAST BOARD MEETING WE HAD.
SO THERE WAS SO MUCH INFORMATION COMING TOGETHER, THE TELL ME THAT WE WORK OUT, I WISH IT WORKED OUT A WEEK IN ADVANCE SO I COULD HAVE THIS CHANGE ORDER ON LAST MONDAY'S AGENDA, BUT IT JUST, I NEED TO SIT, WORK OUT.
SANDY CONTRACTORS READY TO GO AND, UM, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH GETTING PUT IN PLACE.
YOUR LABOR BREAKDOWNS,
ALL THE COSTS ARE RIGHT THERE.
UM, SO THERE'S THAT CHANGE WORK.
SO THE BIG ONE THAT KIND OF CAME UP WHILE WE WERE IN THAT FOUR WEEKS TIME, WE HAD A MINUTE TO KIND OF REALLY LOOK AT THE PROJECT AND, UM, OUR SPEAKER BOARD AND ARCHITECT WERE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW HE CAME IN.
WE HAD RECORD DRAWING OF THE, THE ARENA, THE SIZE AND EVERYTHING, MEASURED EVERYTHING UP.
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YOU'RE ACTUALLY BIGGER THAN REGULATION.AND HE SAID, IF WE SHRINK IT, WE'LL GAIN.
SO HERE'S OUR, HERE'S HERE'S THE, YOUR OFFICIAL RANK MEASUREMENT WHAT THEY CAN BE 200 BY UNIT THAT'S RIGHT OUT, UH, THERE.
SO THAT'S THE GOAL THAT WE CAN GO FOR WHICH ONE BILL IS.
WE HAD A FULLY ENGINEERED DRAWING WITH THE WHOLE THING.
UH, THIS WAS IN OUR ORIGINAL BID PACKAGE.
THAT'S WHAT THE OLD DASHBOARDS, THAT'S WHAT THE OLD, THAT'S A 207 BY 86.
AND THEN THOSE LOCKER ROOMS OVER, YOU KNOW, OVER ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE THERE, THOSE ROOMS IN ALTERNATE ARE THE BIG PACKAGE WENT ON.
SO WE ENDED UP DOING THAT BIG PACKAGE.
WE PROBABLY WOULD'VE, I WOULD'VE RECOMMENDED TO DO THIS ANYWAY BECAUSE COUPLE OF REASONS THAT WALKWAY AND BEGIN THOSE LOCKER ROOMS THERE, THAT'S ONLY EIGHT FEET.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I'M SIX FEET TALL, THAT'S NOT VERY WIDE.
SO PEOPLE WALKING BACK AND FORTH, PEDESTRIANS GETTING INTO THE BLEACHERS, AND THEN COTTON FLARES GETTING IN AND OUT OF THE, UM, THE LOCKER ROOMS, IT'S REALLY CONGESTED AREA.
ALSO, THE COLD SLAB, WHICH IS THE PART THAT'S FREEZING, THAT ICE IS SO CLOSE TO THE LOCKER ROOMS, WHICH IS GONNA BE ADDING, LIKE HAVING SHOWERS IN THERE AND PLAYERS IN, THERE'S GONNA PUT A LOT OF HUMIDITY IN THE ROOM.
MOST LIKELY THAT'S GONNA FREEZE.
THE WARM SLAB IS GONNA SLAB, IS GONNA GET FROSTED OUT AND CONCENTRATING HAZARD SLIPPING HAZARD.
AND WE DON'T NEED THOSE SLIPS AND FALLS IN THE FACILITY.
SO THE COLD SLAB WILL STOP SHORTER THAN WHERE YEAH, ORIGINALLY.
SO THERE, WE DO THE RE CHANGE ORDER, WHICH IS, UM, SHRINKING IT, GIVING US THAT KIND
SO THAT'S NOT GONNA FREEZE OUT.
IT'S GONNA GET THAT COLD SLAB A LITTLE BIT FARTHER INTO THAT HUMAN ENVIRONMENT.
UM, IT'S REALLY NOT A BIG CHAMBER, UH, GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS.
UM, BUT AGAIN, IT IS $11,385 AND THAT'S GONNA BE FOR REFORMING THAT EDGE, UM, OF THAT HARD SLAB.
THEY'LL TO THE, THE WARM SLAB FIRST, AND THEN THEY'LL COME BACK IN.
AND THEN ONCE THEY GET ALL THE HEADERS BE BUILT FOR THE COLD S SIDE PIPING, THEY'LL PUT ALL THAT IN AND THEN RECAST.
SO THAT'S EVERYTHING IN THERE.
THERE'S A CHANGE ORDER TOTAL 60 $63,412 35 CENTS.
NOW $20,000 IS BUILT INTO THE ALLOWABLE, UM, WORK.
SO THE ONLY, THE OVERAGE IS GONNA BE 40 3004 12, 3 5.
AND HAD WE DONE THE OLD, THE WHOLE PROJECT, WE WOULD HAVE FOUR CONTRACTS WITH PLENTY OF ALLOWABLE IN THERE TO COVER THIS.
BUT SEEING HOW MANY, WE BROKE THIS DOWN TO SUCH A SMALL REDUCTION PROJECT.
YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME WE OVER GO OVER ON A CONTRACT, WE NEED TO DO A CHANGE ORDER AND HAVE MORE APPROVAL.
SO WE'RE AT THE QUESTION STAGE.
SO OVERALL, WHEN DID THE WORK BEGIN ON THE PROJECT? I, I MEAN, I KNOW I'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH YOU, BUT JUST SO THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE, I KNOW THAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY SAID TO US THAT IT WAS SLATED AND IT DID START YEAH, AS SOON AS THE SEASON ENDED.
UM, THEY GOT OFF A REALLY GOOD START.
THEY WERE CRUISING RED ALONG WHEN? LATE APRIL.
LATE APRIL 13 OR 15TH OR SOMETHING.
UH, THERE WAS A LOT OF DEMOLITION.
THEY DEMOED ALL OF THE MECHANICAL ROOM, ALL THAT STUFF'S OUT.
AND THEY STARTED SAW COPYING THE
NOW THE FOUNDATION, LIKE THEY WOULD RUN INTO STUFF.
WE'D HAVE, WE HAVE BIWEEKLY MEETINGS.
THEY WOULD RUN INTO THINGS, UM, THAT WERE BIWEEKLY MEETING.
THEY'RE SAYING, THIS CAME UP, HOW ARE WE GONNA ADDRESS IT? THAT GOES TO THE ARCHITECT IS THE ONE WHO REVIEWS THE ISSUE, COMES UP WITH THE PLAN, AND THEN WE DISCUSS IT AT THE MEETING WITH CHIEF REPORTS OF ACTION.
SO ALL THIS STUFF WAS HAPPENING.
THEY WORKED A LOT OF COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE ARCHITECT AND THE SUB, UM, AND THE PRODUCT.
SO OUR INVOLVEMENT CAME IN WHEN, UH, MONEY STARTED GETTING OVER THE CONTRACT AMOUNT.
SO THAT'S WHEN WE STARTED GETTING INVOLVED IN IT.
AND
AND, UM, BLAMING THE BOARD ACCORDING TO THE BUFFALO NEWS ARTICLE WHERE, UH, BASICALLY
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PUT BLAME ON US BECAUSE OF THE LATE BONDING ISSUES.AND AS YOU JUST SAID, AND, AND WE COULDN'T START THIS PROGRAM UNTIL AFTER HOCKEY SEASON WAS OVER AND TWO, THE DAYS FOR THE ICE TO MELT.
SO AS THE LIAISON, YOUR LIAISON AS THE LIAISON TO RECREATION, WHEN I FOUND OUT ABOUT THE MEETING, OF COURSE I DIDN'T WANT TO YELL AND SCREAM, BUT I CALLED YOU THE NEXT DAY AND LET YOU KNOW MY DISPLEASURE.
AND I JUST, I, I FELT THAT, UH, WE, IF WE COULD HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THIS PERHAPS EVEN AT THE, AT THE MEETING, WE COULD HAVE PROBABLY MADE SOME KIND OF QUICK RESOLUTION TO RESOLVE IT WITHOUT HAVING A SPECIAL MEETING.
YOU GET, MAKE SURE THIS WORK IS GETTING DONE.
I I, UM, THERE WAS NOTHING THAT I DIDN'T HAVE ANSWERS FOR IT.
I NEEDED THAT MEETING ON TUESDAY IN ORDER TO HAVE THE ANSWERS AND THE COSTS, WHAT IT WAS.
BECAUSE IF I CAME TO YOU WITH ONE PROBLEM SAYING, OKAY, THIS IS ALL PROBLEMS, YOU'RE GONNA SAY, WHAT CAN WE DO? AND I'M GONNA BE LIKE, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ANY ANSWERS.
I NEED ONE MORE DAY THE ANSWERS THAT I NEEDED.
AND THAT'S WHY I SAID, WHEN YOU'VE ASKED ME WHAT YOU COULD DO, I SAID, I NEED A SPECIAL MEETING BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE THE INFORMATION AT THE TIME.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO TELL YOU ABOUT GUY
I DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW I FOUND OUT.
WELL, FOR, AND THEN THE SPIT OUT DECEMBER.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT PUT A LOT OF FEAR IN IN THE HOCKEY COMMUNITY.
AND I, I, I'M SURPRISED MR. MCDERMOTT CALLED ME UP AT MIDNIGHT THAT NIGHT.
WELL, I GOT CAN, SORRY, I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
MOVING FORWARD, I'M NOTICING THAT THERE'S ALMOST SIX GRAND IN MARKUPS FROM THE CONTRACTOR.
SO EXPLAIN TO ME HOW EVERY TIME WE'RE DOING A CHANGE ORDER, WE'RE GETTING HIT WITH AN INITIAL 10%, LIKE ALMOST SOME OF THESE PROJECT, THESE THINGS I FEEL LIKE THE CONTRACTORS SHOULD HAVE ANTICIPATED AND WE'RE BEING PENALIZED FOR PERHAPS THEIR RELUCTANCE.
LIKE IT'S A PRETTY BIG CONTRACT.
AND THEN I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION.
STANDARD MARKUP FOR A PRIME TO THE SUB IS 10% WHATEVER BI BILL THEY HAVE TO DO FROM THE PRIME TO THE SUB.
LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE A MECHANICAL CONTRACTOR.
THEY'RE USING A SUB SAND CONTRACTOR.
SO ANYTIME AND THEN YOU GO THROUGH ANY STITCH OF PAPER, ANY CONTRACT BUILDING FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS AND 10% IS USUALLY THE STANDARD ISSUE.
UM, I'M JUST SAYING WE'RE WATCHING PENNIES.
AND I HAVE NO PROBLEMS TALKING WITH HIM AND PUSHING BACK, BECAUSE YOU GUYS KNOW I'VE DONE THAT ON MANY CONTRACTS ALREADY.
UM, THIS WILL BE A NOT TO EXCEED.
IF HE COMES IN UNDER, WE CAN PUSH HIM, CAN GO UNDER.
UM, AND THEN MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION IS, YOU SAID PRIOR WE WERE THREE WEEKS AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.
SO IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO AS A BOARD TO SUPPORT YOU GOING FORWARD TO GET US BACK ON TRACK? LIKE IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN BE DOING TO HELP EXPEDIA THE PROCESS? DO YOU NEED TO HAVE WEEKLY MEETINGS WITH US THAT WE'RE MORE ENGAGED? WHAT CAN WE BE DOING TO HELP YOU GET BACK ON TRACK AND HELP CONTRACTORS REALIZE WE VALUE THEIR BUSINESS, BUT WE ALSO WANT THEM TO BE HERE AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE, RESPONDING TO THESE NEEDS SO WE CAN GET BACK WHERE WE NEED TO BE? YEAH, NO, I BELIEVE THAT THE CONTRACTOR, I BELIEVE THIS MIGHT HAVE IF THE CONTRACTOR IS BUSING IS ASKED TO GET THIS DONE.
BUT I KNOW THERE'S A BUNCH OF SUBCONTRACTORS TOO, SO.
AND WHAT WE DO TO MAKE SURE, WELL AS WE, WE CAN BE EXPEDIENT IN, IN DOING THESE AFTER THIS FROM OUR LAST MEETING.
ONCE HE HAS THIS IN PLACE, HE SAYS HE CAN FLY AND HE'S IN, IN GOOD SHAPE.
WHERE WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING, WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST THING DELAYING NOW IS THE CONCRETE.
SO WE HAVE A LOT OF IMPERIAL, A LOT OF CONCRETE GETTING FORWARD.
AND YOU KIND EVERYBODY SHOULD KNOW I PAID 28 DAYS FOR CONCRETE TO CAREFULLY BEFORE YOU CAN DO ANYTHING WITH.
SO THE FACT THAT WHEN I DON'T HAVE TO WAIT TILL AUGUST TO GET THE CONCRETE BOARD, THAT PUTS TIME.
BUT THERE'S SO MUCH CONCRETE GOING IN.
SOME OF IT'S SPECIALTY, I'M GONNA HAVE A MATERIAL TESTED.
I WANT THAT CONCRETE TO BE THE BEST STUFF I CAN, I DON'T WANNA TAKE ANY BAD BADGES.
I GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S BUILT RIGHT.
I GOT ONE SHOT OF THIS, THIS IS 3 MILLION BUCKS THAT I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR, FOR NEXT PAYER MONEY.
I'M GONNA MAKE SURE IT'S BUILT RIGHT.
I'M NOT GONNA GET HUNG UP ON A DEADLINE TO, TO PUT SOMETHING IN THAT'S INFERIOR OR SUB SUBSTANDARD.
IS THAT A ONE DAY, IS THAT, IS THAT A ONE DAY TOUR OR TWO DAY? NO, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE MULTIPLE.
UM, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE YARDAGE IS, BUT IT'S A, IT'S A BIG ONE AND IT'S GOTTA BE ALL PARKED INSIDE.
UH, SO IT'S, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO HAVE THE CONTRACTOR COME IN BEFORE BOARD MEETINGS OR AT THE START OF BOARD MEETINGS AND GIVE US LIKE A STATUS UPDATE? I KNOW SIMILAR CONTRACTORS DO IT FOR OTHER BIG BONDING ISSUES FOR SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
AND THAT WAY YOU ARE NOT CONTINUALLY ON THE HOT SEAT TOO, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE SOME OF THIS, SOME
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YEAH.THEY CAN PROBABLY BE UPDATED US ABOUT.
ACTUALLY CONTACT, ACTUALLY IF, IF I MAY MM-HMM
I WAS SPEAKING TO, UM, UH, COUNCILWOMAN RINS ABOUT THIS AND WHAT WE THOUGHT, AND I, AND I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR HER, BUT SHE MAY ADD AN ADDENDUM TO THIS, BUT AS IF YOU COULD SEND US WEEKLY EMAILS.
BECAUSE IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN WE VOTED FOR THIS, I REMEMBER ASKING YOU IF IN VOTING FOR THIS, THAT IT WAS GONNA BE DONE FOR HOCKEY SEASON.
AND I I LOOKED BACK ON OUR MEETING, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'RE ALL VIDEOING.
YOU TOLD ME, YOU REMEMBER TELLING ME, I ASKED YOU THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE DONE.
AND SO WHAT, WHEN, AND MY COLLEAGUE, UM, MR.
A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC AND WE WEREN'T INFORMED BY YOUR DEPARTMENT.
LIKE, LIKE WE ALL, WHAT WE WANT, AND I MAYBE I, I'M, I'M SPEAKING OUTTA TERM, BUT I PRETTY MUCH BET EVERYTHING I OWN ON IT IS THAT EVERYONE, ALL FIVE OF US ON THIS BOARD, DEMOCRAT, REPUBLICAN, GREEN PARTY, INDEPENDENT, IT DOESN'T MATTER, WANTS THIS PROJECT TO GO FORWARD IS QUICKLY, BUT PROPERLY MEANING, SO THAT NO ONE, UH, LOSES ANY OPPORTUNITY FOR RECREATION.
WHETHER IT'S HOCKEY PLAYERS, FIGURE SKATERS, PUBLIC SKATE.
SO WHEN I VOTED FOR THIS, YOU KNOW, IF, AND, AND I, YOU KNOW, LIKE MAYBE WE MAY HAVE NOT VOTED IF WE KNEW IS GOING TO BE DELAYED OR, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? BUT BOTTOM LINE IS THAT'S OUR GOAL.
SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING, 'CAUSE I, I HEAR MY COLLEAGUES SAY THAT WE CAN DO, WHETHER IT'S WRITE A LETTER, WHETHER, YOU KNOW, IT'S OUR TOWN ATTORNEY, UH, I'M, I'M OPEN TO ANY CREATIVE OPTION TO GET THEM THE CONTRACTORS TO GET THIS DONE.
SO WE DON'T LOSE ANY, ANY ICE TIME FOR, FOR OUR COMMUNITY, NUMBER ONE.
AND I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW WHY SOME MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC HERE AT THE LAST MEETING ASKING US ABOUT THIS AND I WAS IN SHOCK AND, AND I I WAS MAD IF YOU REMEMBER BECAUSE I'M LIKE, WHAT, WHY DIDN'T YOU KNOW, SO WHAT I SUGGEST, AND I I, AS I SAID, COUNCILWOMAN FARRELL LORENZO AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS, IS IF YOU SEND US AN EMAIL, UH, BY FRIDAY CLOSE OF BUSINESS LETTING US KNOW WHAT'S UP, BECAUSE AT THE LAST MEETING, YOU KNOW, WE, WE PUT THIS MEETING TOGETHER, ALL OF US, UM, I CHANGED, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT COMPLAINING, BUT WE CHANGED OUR PLANS, LIKE WORK PLANS OR WHATEVER SO WE COULD BE HERE BECAUSE THIS IS SO IMPORTANT, RIGHT? FOR EVERYBODY.
AND, AND SO THE SOONER WE KNEW ABOUT IT, LIKE HAD WE KNOWN ABOUT IT MONTHS AGO, WE COULD HAVE MAYBE DONE THIS MEETING A MONTH AGO AND THEN MAYBE THERE WOULD BE NO DELAYS.
AND, AND, AND I'M JUST SAYING GOING FORWARD 'CAUSE I'M JUST, I WANT A SOLUTION.
WHAT I WOULD JUST ASK AS A BOARD MEMBER IS THAT YOU SEND US AN EMAIL.
IF THERE'S A PROBLEM, LET US KNOW, NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO.
'CAUSE I'M GONNA VOTE YES FOR THIS.
I'M JUST GONNA TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, I'M VOTING FOR THIS CHANGE ORDER 'CAUSE WE NEED TO DO IT.
AND, AND THINGS COME UP IN CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
BUT GOING FORWARD, AS SOON AS SOMETHING COMES UP, I'D RATHER KNOW THE BAD NEWS.
THE LAST THING WE WANNA BE HERE IS THE EMPEROR WITH NO CLOTHES.
RIGHT? SO IF, IF, IF IT'S BAD NEWS, LET US KNOW.
AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS ON THIS BOARD, AND MAYBE COLLECTIVELY WE CAN COME TO A, A, A SOLUTION.
SO IF YOU COULD DO THAT MR. TON, UH, SEND US AN EMAIL TO THE BOARD, THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON, AND THEN TELL US WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP YOU MAKE THIS PROJECT.
SO I WILL, I WILL UH, FORWARD OUR BIWEEKLY MEETING MINUTES.
EVERYBODY YOU GUYS CAN READ EXACTLY THEIR EXTREMELY DETAILED.
AND THEN IN BETWEEN THAT I WILL PROVIDE A SUMMARY AT THE END OF THE WORK WEEK WHERE WE ARE.
UM, I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AND BELIEVE ME, I WAS EQUALLY AS UPSET AS YOU ARE THAT SOMEONE THREW A THEORETICAL, NONSENSICAL INFORMATION OUT THAT HAD NO BACK FACTUAL BACK.
I'M GONNA FOCUS ON GETTING YOUR RIGHT BILL.
UM, AS FAR AS TO ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A FEW OPTIONS.
ANY AMENDMENT, UH, AS FAR AS GOVERNMENT SPENDING GOES, I HAVE TO SPEND THIS MONEY RESPONSIBLE.
EVERY NICKEL THAT I MOVE THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE BOARD.
YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T WANT ANY, I I REFUSE ANY LIKE, OPEN CHECKBOOK TYPE POLICIES OR RE RESOLUTIONS.
ANYTHING I BRING TO YOU WILL BE, WE WILL HAVE A QUOTE BEHIND IT.
IT'LL BE VETTED, IT'LL BE RESEARCHED, MAKE SURE THAT IT'S DAILY EXACTLY WHAT
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WE NEED.AND YOU KNOW, IF I WERE TO NEED ANOTHER SPECIAL MEETING, THESE SUMMER MONTHS ARE TOP, WE HAVE ONE BOARD MEETING.
THIS IS ONE OF THE NINE PROJECTS MY DEPARTMENT SAID.
I MEAN, LOOK, WE CAN BE AVAILABLE VIRTUALLY AND YOU KNOW, JUST AS JUST BRAINSTORMING.
NOT A RESOLUTION, BUT THERE'S A SAYING, MONEY TALKS AND YOU, YOU KNOW WHAT WALKS, RIGHT? RIGHT.
SO HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING, 'CAUSE IF WE'RE TRYING TO POUR CONCRETE, AND I'VE DONE, I MEAN, I'M NOT A CONTRACTOR, BUT I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN SOME PROJECTS LIKE LAKE HOUSES AND THINGS.
SO, BUT THE TOWN ALSO HAS A REVENUE SOURCE RELATIVE TO WHAT WE CHARGE, UH, FOR USE OF THE ARENA.
SO WHEN WE DON'T, IF WE DON'T HAVE ICE AVAILABLE WHEN IT SHOULD BE, THEN WE LOSE THE POTENTIAL REVENUE, RIGHT? SO IF ICE TIME IS VERY EXPENSIVE, SO I WOULD BE WILLING TO SUPPORT A MEASURE TO PAY.
LIKE WHAT IF WE SAID TO THE CON CONCRETE CONTRACTOR, HYPOTHETICALLY, WE WILL PAY YOU LIKE AN EXTRA 5,000 OR X BECAUSE TO GET, TO PUT US ON PRIORITY TO POUR THIS CONCRETE EARLIER SO THAT WE CAN FINISH THE PROJECT.
BECAUSE, AND, AND I DON'T, AND I WANT TO BE FISCALLY PRUDENT BECAUSE WE ARE ELECTED TO REPRESENT ALL THE PEOPLE IN HAMBURG, NOT JUST THE PEOPLE THAT USE THE ARENA.
HOWEVER, IT IS A WIN-WIN BECAUSE IF WE CANNOT RENT THE ICE, THEN WE'RE LOSING SAY 200 BUCKS AN HOUR.
AND IF WE RENT, SAY JUST FOR EASY MATH, FIVE HOURS A DAY, RIGHT? THAT'S A THOUSAND DOLLARS ONE WEEK, SEVEN DAYS, $7,000.
OKAY? ONE MONTH IS 28,000 BASED ON THAT MATH.
OKAY? SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF WE LOSE ONE MONTH AT FIVE HOURS, WE LOSE 28,000.
SO I WOULD BE WILLING TO SUPPORT A MEASURE BECAUSE IT, BECAUSE IT WOULD HELP THE PEOPLE IN THE TOWN THAT USE THE ARENA AND IT WOULD HELP THE TAXPAYERS TO PAY A LITTLE BIT EXTRA SO THAT WE COULD BECOME PRIORITIZED.
I, I DEFINITELY WILL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ON WEDNESDAY WHEN WE HAVE OUR, UH, OUR BIWEEKLY MEETING.
AND IF THAT'S GONNA BE OFFERED, I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE A BOARD MEMBER TO BE THERE TO ATTEND IT IF POSSIBLE.
I'LL SEND A LINK OUT, WHOEVER, ONE OR TWO.
WHAT TIME IS THE MEETING ON WEDNESDAY? UM, ONE WAS THAT ONE 30? ONE 30? IT'S ONE 30 ON WEDNESDAY.
YEAH, ONE 30, BUT I WON'T BE SUPPORTED.
TWO, THEY CAN BE THERE OR YOU CAN BE RIGHT AT THE ARENA.
IT'S ALSO NOT JUST A CEMENT COMPANY, IT'S THE FINISHERS TOO THAT HAVE TO FINISH THE CONCRETE LOT MOVING PARTS.
UM, AND WE HAVE A STADIUM GOING IN AND THEY'RE GONNA BE, I WAS GONNA MENTION THAT, BUT, SO I'M AWARE OF ALL OF THAT STUFF I'M AWARE OF ALL, BELIEVE ME.
SO KEN, IF I COULD FOLLOW UP ON THE COMMENTS THAT COUNCILWOMAN, UM, ERFORD MADE, UH, BECAUSE I WAS IN ON THAT MEETING, UH, LAST WEEK.
BUT, UM, I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I TOOK AWAY WAS SOME OF THE COMMENTS BY THE, THE CONTRACTOR THAT'S WORKING ON, AND EVEN AS FAR AS THE SIZE, WHICH I KNOW YOU SAID THERE WAS NO ISSUE GOING FORWARD WITH THE DASHER BOARDS.
AND I THINK THAT WAS A POSITIVE MEASURE BECAUSE IT ELIMINATED SOME OF THOSE MARKUPS YOU TALKED ABOUT.
THAT'S WHY WE WENT THAT DIRECTION AND, AND WE ELIMINATED DOING LIKE ANOTHER LAYER OF SUB, WHICH IS ORIGINALLY HOW IT WAS STRUCTURED, SO THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE EVEN MORE LAYERS OF THESE SUBS IN THESE MARKUPS.
SO THAT'S JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE.
AND I THINK THAT WAS A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION WHERE WE NEEDED TO BE RESPONSIVE TO THE CHANGE IN SIZE.
BUT ONE OF THE COMMENTS MADE WAS THAT, WELL, WHEN WE DUG INTO THIS MORE, WE REALIZED THIS WAS AN OPPORTUNITY AND I GUESS I WOULD'VE ANTICIPATED THAT WOULD'VE BEEN SOMETHING THAT THE CONTRACTOR WOULD'VE BEEN DOING RIGHT FROM THE GET GO.
SO I AGREE WITH THE COMMENTS THAT THAT YOU MADE AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE MAKING THE COMMENTS.
WE ARE REGARDING SOME PUSHBACK.
WE'VE HAD A VERY GOOD RAPPORT WITH THEM.
WE UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING THAT THEY ARE DOING.
BUT I WOULD'VE ANTICIPATED THAT TYPE OF, UM, FOLLOW THROUGH, RIGHT? RIGHT FROM THE THE GET GO.
ESPECIALLY GIVEN HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE, UM, INVESTED IN TERMS OF THEIR SERVICES ALONE ON THIS PROJECT.
AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS, UM, I KNOW YOU ALREADY SAID THAT WE STARTED IN APRIL AS AS SOON AS WAS POSSIBLE.
UM, WERE THERE, I KNOW OTHER WORK YOU ALSO HAVE UPDATED US AND SAID THAT OTHER WORK ON OTHER ASPECTS OF THE PROJECT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CONTINUE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE GOING FORWARD SO THAT WE'RE MINIMIZING ANY OTHER ISSUES.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, CONVERSATIONS WHEN, UM, EARLIER IN THE YEAR WHEN THE BOARD WAS HAVING VERY THOROUGH CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE FINANCING OF THE PROJECT AND BONDING, ET CETERA, AND USING DIFFERENT OPTIONS LIKE THE DASHER BOARD SITUATION, WHICH SAVED US MONEY.
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UM, THOSE DISCUSSIONS DID NOT CHANGE EVERYONE'S UNDERSTANDING AND EFFORTS TO START THIS AS SOON AS THE SEASON WAS OVER, WHICH IN FACT, AS YOU SAID, IS WHAT OCCURRED.SO THOSE THOROUGH DISCUSSIONS THAT WERE HAD DID NOT IMPACT EITHER THE SCHEDULE OR THE UNFORESEEN CORRECT CIRCUMSTANCE THAT YOU UNCOVERED.
JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS THERE ON THAT.
THOSE FIRST COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT WE LOOKED AT, THEY'RE, WE DIDN'T KNOW UNTIL YOU DID.
YOU DON'T KNOW TILL YOU GET IN THERE.
UM, THAT THIS WOULD'VE HAPPENED NO MATTER WHAT SCENARIO, WHAT TIME OF THE YEAR WE STARTED OR WHATEVER WE WOULD'VE HAD TO ADDRESS IT.
THE BIGGEST ONE BEING THAT SUBFLOOR ISSUE, THAT THAT'S A, THAT WAS A MESS.
UM, THAT WAS A BIG, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT I CAN TELL YOU, AND NONE OF US WILL BE AROUND KNOW ABOUT IN 50 YEARS WHEN THE NEXT GUY STANDING HERE SAYS HE NEEDS TO HAVE THIS ICE ARENA.
HE'LL HAVE MY AS-BUILT DRAWINGS, HE'S GONNA HAVE MY RECORDS, HE'S GONNA HAVE OUR PHOTOS, HE'S GONNA HAVE OUR INFORMATION, MY CHANGE ORDERS, MY DOCUMENTS, ALL THE SPECIFIC, HE'S GONNA HAVE THAT AS WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T HAVE IT.
SO, SO FOLLOWING UP ON THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE, AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE FACT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ENGAGED THIS CONTRACTOR, THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, BEEN PAID A LOT IN TERMS OF THEIR PLANS.
IT SEEMS ALMOST FORTUITOUS NOW THAT WE FOUND OUT AND WERE ABLE TO MAKE THE ADJUSTMENT, GIVEN WHAT YOU SAID, BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY OF THE LOCKER ROOMS, WHICH WAS SOMETHING, UM, AND THE ADDITIONAL BATHROOM FACILITIES, IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO EVERYONE HERE.
UM, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WAS A VERY FORTUITOUS THING AND NOW IT'S BEEN INCORPORATED IN THE PLANS BECAUSE AS YOU STATED OTHERWISE THERE WOULD'VE BEEN ISSUES DOWN THE ROAD WITH, UM RIGHT.
SO AGAIN, I GUESS I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, I WOULD'VE ANTICIPATED THAT, THAT, I MEAN, YOU'RE PRETTY SMART, BUT I WOULD'VE ANTICIPATED THAT THAT WOULD'VE BEEN SOMETHING THAT MAY HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION AND HAVE BEEN PART OF THE MIX OF THE CONVERSATION.
OR I LOOK, I LOOK, I'LL PUT IT THIS WAY.
I LOOK FORWARD TO EVERYONE REALLY HAVING THEIR EYES TRAINED ON ALL OF THESE TYPE OF THINGS.
AND I BELIEVE THAT WHAT WE'RE GONNA ASK FOR IN TERMS OF THE AMENDMENT AND SOME UPDATES, SOME MORE WEEKLY UPDATES WHERE EVERYONE'S INVOLVED, THAT WOULD BE A SAFEGUARD FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T STAND HERE A YEAR OR TWO FROM NOW AND SAY, UH OH, WE HAVE THIS PROBLEM WHILE WE'VE CREATED SOMETHING BENEFICIAL FOR OUR COMMUNITY WHILE WE'VE SPENT TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
NOW WE'VE CREATED THIS OTHER SITUATION.
SO I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING MORE, UM, WITH EVERYONE INVOLVED HANDS-ON AND HAVING ALL OF THE PROFESSIONALS AND THEIR GREAT EXPERTISE REALLY FOCUSED ON THIS END RESULT BEING THE BEST THAT IT CAN BE.
ALSO REMEMBER, WE ALSO HAVE A PERFORMANCE AND A MAINTENANCE BOND ON THIS.
SO THE PERFORMANCE BOND IS TO MAKE SURE THE CONTRACTOR CAN COMPLETE THE WORK.
THE MAINTENANCE IS GONNA BE TWO YEARS AFTER THIS THING IS UP AND RUNNING.
ANYTHING BREAKS, ANYTHING GOES WRONG, ANYTHING'S FAULTY.
THE MAINTENANCE BOND COVERS IT.
SO WE DO AND RUN ALL THE BUGS ON THE SYSTEM, IF ANY, WHICH IT SHOULDN'T BE, BUT YOU NEVER KNOW.
WELL THAT WAS, UH, EXCELLENT STATE LANGUAGE.
I THINK WE HIT ON THIS EARLIER IN WHAT, UM, MR. COZA WAS SAYING MS FAIR LORENZ WAS THAT, UM, THERE WAS I GUESS INACCURATE REPORTING IN IN NEWSPAPER BECAUSE THERE WAS AN INSINUATION.
I THINK, I'M NOT GOING TO POINT NAMES HERE BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE BETTER OFF JUST TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD AND SOLVE THIS PROBLEM, BUT THAT IT WAS THROUGH DELAY FOR THE BOARD THAT IS IN FACT FALSE.
WOULD YOU AGREE? HUNDRED PERCENT FALSE.
I, REGARDLESS WE GONNA HAVE THIS PROBLEM.
I MEAN WE WERE ALWAYS GONNA START APRIL, APRIL, APRIL WAS THE CONSTRUCTION SEASON.
WE HIT THIS, RAN INTO THIS THING RIGHT WHEN WE WERE GONNA HIT IT NO MATTER WHAT TIMELINE WE FOLLOWED.
AND IT'S JUST THE WAY IT SHOOK OUT.
SO AS A FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO THAT, AND, AND YOU STATED PREVIOUSLY THAT IN, IN PROJECTS OF THIS MAGNITUDE, WHILE YOU ALWAYS HOPE THAT YOU DON'T ENCOUNTER A SITUATION YOU PLAN FOR AND HAVE CONTINGENCIES JUST LIKE THERE'S CONTINGENCIES BUILT IN, ET CETERA.
UM, SO THE OTHER PIECE OF THIS, AND IT MIGHT BE BETTER DIRECTED TO, UM, UH, NO TO, UM, I WAS THINKING YOUTH REC AND SENIOR SERVICES DIRECTOR JILL GORMAN KING, UM, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT HER DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN HAVING, AND I KNOW SHE HAS A RANK MANAGER, I THINK THAT'S MARK COLLINS, WHO HAS BEEN DOING THAT, COMMUNICATING, UM, REGARDING THE PROJECT FROM THE ORGANIZATION STANDPOINT.
AND SO WHAT WAS, I KNOW I'VE EVEN ASKED THIS A FEW TIMES IN THE PAST, SO MAYBE YOU COULD ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT, UM, FROM WORKING AND BEING IN ON THOSE TEAM MEETINGS WITH MR. ESTONIA, UM, AND HE HAS STATED THAT FREQUENTLY YOU HAVE TO ANTICIPATE
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THERE'S GOING TO BE ISSUES OR DELAYS.SO WHAT WAS, MAYBE YOU COULD FOR EVERYONE SO THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE, MAYBE YOU COULD DESCRIBE WHAT THAT CONTINGENCY PLAN WAS FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE IN TERMS OF POTENTIAL DELAYS AND IMPACTS ON THE ORGANIZATIONS AND HOW THAT WAS COMMUNICATED AND HOW THAT WILL BE COMMUNICATED GOING FORWARD.
I HOPE THAT THERE ARE NO MORE UNFORESEEN SITUATIONS, BUT IF THERE WERE ANY MORE OR JUST THOSE COMING OUT OF THIS SITUATION.
SO IF YOU COULD DESCRIBE THE CONTINGENCY THAT YOU HAD GOING IN PLAY IN PLACE GOING INTO THIS PROJECT AND WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE IN PLACE IN THE COMMUNICATION PIECE.
I HAVE MORE TO TALK ABOUT ON THE, OH, SORRY.
IF WE COULD AND THEN I'LL FINISH.
WAS THAT OKAY? I'LL TAKE ABSOLUTELY.
AND SO, UM, YOU GUYS WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THINGS UP AND COMING THAT WE JUST DISCOVERED.
SO IN ORDER TO BOOM THAT, UM, CONDENSER, WE HAVE TO DE-ENERGIZE THE THREE PAGE LINE POWER LINE THAT COMES, UH, THROUGH THE FACILITY GOES, FEEDS THE B AND G BUILDING THE BASIN AND THE LIGHTS.
UM, IS THAT THE TELEPHONE POLE ACROSS THE STREET? THAT'S WHAT I TOOK.
YOU ASKED TO SHOW, UM, THE LIST IS YOUR SWITCH AT THE ROAD.
THAT'S ACTUALLY BY THE DW IT'S OLD, IT'S COMPLETELY RUSTED CLOSED.
IT'S, UH, YOU CAN SEE IT'S GOT THREE PHASES COMING IN IT.
THERE'S WHAT THEIR, ARE THEIR BLADE SWITCHES? THAT, THAT, UH, IT'S A BLADE THAT'S SITS DOWN IN A CUFF THAT, UH, KEEPS THEM SWITCH CLOSED.
THERE'S A POLE THAT RUNS DOWN THE SIDE WITH A LEVER ON IT THAT YOU ACTIVATE AND YOU HOLD THEM SWITCH AND DE-ENERGIZE THE WHOLE NIKE BASE.
UM, IT'S OPERABLE, IT'S CLOSE, SO IT'S FEEDING THE BASE.
BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT AS, AS THE PROJECT GOES ON, UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE HOW WE LAND WITH THE BUDGET WISE AND THEN EITHER PUT THIS IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET TO ADDRESS OR DO IT AS PART OF A CHANGE ORDER TO THIS.
SO I THINK I'M GONNA, I'D LIKE TO RUN THIS ONE OUTTA MY DEPARTMENT.
I'D RATHER GET A CONTRACTOR, GET SOME QUOTES.
I MIGHT EVEN CALL IN, UH, ARCADE ELECTRIC AND SEE IF I CAN GET A MUTUAL AID HELP TO, UH, KEEP THE COST SET.
BUT IT NEEDS A NEW POLE THAT PULLS ORIGINAL TO THE BUILDING.
THE BOTTOM SWITCH MECHANISM IS A COMPLETE BALL.
SO IF SOMETHING HAPPENS ON THE NIKE BASE WHERE LIKE A POLE GETS HIT FROM PLOWING OR LIGHTNING OR A STORM BLOWS IT OPEN, WHERE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE LIVE THREE PHASE WIRES LAYING ON THE GROUND.
I'M TRYING TO SCARE ANYBODY WITH FEAR, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
JUST THIS IS, THIS IS INFRASTRUCTURE THAT I NOTICED WAS BAD THAT I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT.
SO, UM, WE CAN DO, RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY WAY TO FILL POWER TO THE MAKE BASE IS WHERE THE SERVICE LINE HITS.
THEY HAVE THREE, UH, FUSED INTERRUPTS THERE.
SO IF SOMETHING HAPPENS AT THE NIKE BASE WHERE WE HAVE AN ELECTRICAL FIRE OR SOMETHING ALIGN ON THE GROUND, WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR A ELECTRIC COMPANY TO COME IN WITH A TROUBLE TRUCK AND GET IT WITH A HOT STICK AND DISCONNECT OPEN THOSE SWITCHES.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, UH, I WANNA WORK ON.
IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD NOT IGNORE.
IT'S NOT, I WOULDN'T SAY LIKE A SUPER HIGH RISK THING, BUT WHATEVER'S A DISASTER WAITING TO HAPPEN, IT'S EXACTLY.
UH, WE'RE GOTTA BE PROACTIVE BUT THEN REACTIVE IF WE'RE IN BUDGET SEASON ALREADY STARTING TO DISCUSS BUDGET.
CAN YOU DO A COURTESY REACH OUT TO ARCADE AND KIND OF GET US SOME BALLPARK IDEA OF WHERE WE'RE GONNA LAND ON HOW MUCH WE'RE GONNA NEED TO SET ASIDE YOU.
'CAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S FRUITFUL TO START DOING BUDGET DISCUSSIONS AND YEAH, I WAS ALREADY WORKING ON IT.
BUT YOU HAD ALSO MENTIONED THAT YOU THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE ADVANTAGEOUS AT THIS POINT SINCE, UM, REPAIRS WERE GONNA BE NEEDED TO, EXCUSE ME, LOOK AT CHANGING THE LOCATION BECAUSE YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO BE MORE RESPONSIVE.
YEAH, IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY SURROUNDED BY DITCHES.
SO WHAT I WOULD DO IS MOVE IT EITHER CLOSER TO THE ROAD, SO A BUCKET TRUCK AND RAKE IT.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, I MEAN IF YOU COULD EVEN GET A BUCKET TRUCK ALONGSIDE, WE'D HAVE TO PUT A PIPE IN, GET IT CROSSING IN, AND A LINEMAN WOULD'VE TO GO UP THERE WITH A SLEDGEHAMMER TO BEAT THOSE BLADES OUT.
UM, I WOULD MOVE, TRY TO GET IT CLOSER TO THE ROAD.
SO IT'S MORE, UH, WITHIN WHENEVER THE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO CHECK THIS SPEC ON WHETHER UTILITY COMPANY WANTS IT, BUT I THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE REPLACED AND IT WOULDN'T BE A BIG OUTAGE.
THEY WOULD BUILD THE IN INFRASTRUCTURE, MOUNT THE SWITCH, AND THEN TRANSFER THE SERVICE.
IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE HOUR, A COUPLE HOUR OUTAGE.
DID YOU MENTION SOMETHING ABOUT ALSO ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD, ON THE NIKE SIDE SIDE, THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE TO ADD TO THE ABILITY TO RESPOND IN AN EMERGENCY? WELL, THIS WOULD BE IT.
THIS WOULD BE MOVING THAT SWITCH ONTO THE, ONTO THERE, UH, ONTO THE NIKE SIDE THAT'S AC ACCESSIBLE.
BUT, UH, THERE MAY BE A REQUIREMENT OF THE UTILITY COMPANY THAT YOU, THE FIRST SPAN IS BELONGS TO THE OWNER AND WE MIGHT HAVE TO KEEP IT THERE.
WE'LL HAVE TO WORK THAT STUFF OUT.
SO YOU'LL GET STARTED LOOKING ON LOOKING AT IT.
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UH, THE ONLY OTHER THING ON THE PROJECT THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO TAKE LOOK AT, WHICH IS A REGULAR MAINTENANCE THING, UM, WOULD BE THE TRANSFORMER THAT'S ON SITE THERE.I DON'T THINK IT'S EVER BEEN SERVICED.
I DON'T THINK THE OIL'S EVER BEEN CHECKED IN IT.
I'D LIKE TO GET AN OIL SAMPLE ON AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY WATER IN IT.
UM, MAYBE
BUT THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO THINGS THAT ARE KIND OF HANGING OUT THERE AS FAR AS THE SITE GOES.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE NOW TO TRANSFORM A GOOD IDEA? I HAVEN'T BEEN PAYING ATTENTION.
THAT WOULD BE LIKE AN OPERATING BUDGET IF WE HAD MONEY IN THERE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S HAPPEN.
WE COULD SCHEDULE FOR ROUTINE MAINTENANCE.
BUT
IS THERE MONEY LEFT IN THE BUDGET TO HANDLE IT OR THERE SHOULD BE.
UH, I JUST DON'T WANNA GET INTO IT.
I ACTUALLY, BECAUSE I MEAN, WE HAVE 3 MILLION BUCKS SPENT ON, YOU KNOW, LET'S CONCENTRATE ON, LET'S FOCUS ON THIS AND THEN IF YOU COME UP WITH A PROPOSAL, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN IT.
THAT'S WHAT I'M, BECAUSE I I, TODAY, TODAY, JUST SO YOU EVERYONE KNOWS.
AND I, I WOULD BE INCLINED TO HAVE OUR ARCHITECT WHO WE ARE PAYING FOR DOING THE CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION STAND IN FRONT OF YOU AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
UM, I HAVE NO PROBLEMS DOING IT.
I KNOW THE PROJECT EXTREMELY WELL.
THIS IS ONE OF MANY THAT WE MANAGE HERE IN RIGHT MENT.
SO I MEAN, I'M ALWAYS HERE FOR YOU GUYS WHEN WE'RE 24 7.
OKAY, MR. ESTONIA, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
UM, AND I WOULD LIKE TO APPLAUD MY COLLEAGUES ON THE TOWN BOARD FOR THEIR VERY RESPECTFUL AND DIGNIFIED TREATMENT OF YOU AS A DEPARTMENT HEAD.
UM, I KNOW THAT COUNCIL MEMBER FAR LORENZ HAD SOME QUESTIONS FOR, UH, MS. GORMAN KING, BUT BEFORE WE TURN THINGS OVER TO HER, I KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE SOME FOLKS HERE THAT ARE STAKEHOLDERS IN THE ICE ARENA.
I'D LIKE TO OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR QUESTIONS, UH, FROM THOSE FOLKS FOR MR. ESTONIA.
HI, DAVE MCDERMOTT, COCKING PRESIDENT TAMOCK.
UM, I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AND I WANNA OFFER SOMETHING TALKING RIGHT OUT OF MY HAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FEASIBLE OR NOT, BUT, SO THE ONLY TIMELINE THAT WE'VE RECEIVED SO FAR WAS FROM, UH, JILL'S, UH, OFFICE THAT IT'S NOVEMBER 15TH.
OUR PARTICULAR TIMELINE IS OUR TRAVEL TEAMS GO ON THE ICE IN AUGUST.
WE'RE IN THE NIKE BASE, TYPICALLY THE SECOND SATURDAY, UH, IN SEPTEMBER.
AND THEN WE START OUR HOUSE PROGRAM ON OC THE FIRST WEEKEND IN OCTOBER.
PUSHING US BACK TO NOVEMBER 15TH IS REALLY GONNA HURT
I'M GONNA JUST BE CANDID ABOUT THAT.
UH, JOE MARVIN'S BEEN WORKING LIKE A MADMAN, CONTACTING, WORKING WITH PEOPLE, TRYING TO GET ADDITIONAL ICE.
UM, YOU KNOW, OUR TRAVEL TEAMS ARE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE.
YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD GET THE ICE, THEY'LL GO WHERE WE GOT US.
BUT THE HOUSE PROGRAM, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 300 KIDS, THAT'S IN GENERAL, ALL RIGHT? I DON'T THINK THE PARENTS ARE GONNA WAIT AROUND TILL NOVEMBER 15TH TO REGISTER THEIR CHILDREN AND GO PLAY HOCKEY.
IF WE CAN GET EIGHT HOURS ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY FOR THE HOUSE PROGRAM SOMEWHERE CLOSE, WE MIGHT BE OKAY.
SO, I MEAN, THIS IS REALLY, REALLY HURTS US.
WE ANTICIPATED LIKE ANY PROJECT THAT WAS, UH, UNDER CONSTRUCTION THAT THERE MIGHT BE A SLIGHT DELAY AND WE WERE PREPARED TO GO TO LIKE OCTOBER 15TH.
SO THE RINK IS GONNA BE DELAYED BY 30 DAYS INSTEAD OF THE SECOND WEEKEND IN SEPTEMBER.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE OUT ON OCTOBER 15TH, WE'RE BACK ON US AND EVERYTHING'S GREAT.
OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
YOU MENTIONED THAT THE BIG THING IS THE CURING.
RIGHT? THE CONCRETE HAS TO PURE, AND I GET THAT AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT LEISURE, RINS ONE AND TWO, HOLIDAY RINS ONE AND TWO, AND A COUPLE OF THE OTHER MUNICIPAL RINKS HERE IN WESTERN NEW YORK, THEY'RE NOT CONCRETE BASED, THEY'RE SAND BASED.
SO WHEN THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH THE REPAIR, THEY JUST MELT THE ICE, DIG THE SAND, MAKE THE REPAIR, GET BACK TO IT.
I KNOW THAT THE NIKE BASE NEEDS A CONCRETE FLOOR BECAUSE DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS, IF, IF WE END UP BUYING A NEW SPORT COURT OR DOING WHATEVER WITH IT, AND I KNOW YOU RUN THE, THE, THE DAY CAMP OVER THERE, BUT THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE THERE UNTIL NEXT SUMMER.
IS IT FEASIBLE THAT FOR THIS YEAR ONLY WE DO A SAND BASE FOUNDATION INSTEAD OF CONCRETE, AND THEN WHEN WE'RE DONE IN APRIL, YOU CAN LAY IT ON THE CONCRETE AND WE GOT ALL SUMMER LONG UNTIL YOUR PROGRAM START WORKING.
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YES.ON JUNE, YOU GOT TWO MONTHS, APRIL AND MAY FOR THE CONCRETE TO CURE IN THE SPRING OF 2025.
I'M JUST ASKING THAT QUESTION BECAUSE OTHER RINKS HAVE HAD, HAVE SAND BASES AND THEY DON'T HAVE ISSUES.
THE ICE MIGHT NOT BE AS HARD AS, BUT IT'S US AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PLAY ON AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN USE.
IT SHOULDN'T AFFECT, ASIDE FROM THE BOARDS, IT SHOULDN'T AFFECT THE PLACEMENT OF THE BOARDS WHERE THEIR FOUNDATIONS HAVE TO GO BECAUSE IT'S STILL 200 BY 85.
SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.
UM, I'M JUST THROWING IT BACK AT YOU.
CAN THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN HAPPEN? I MEAN, IT IS POSSIBLE.
YOU WANNA PAY THE MONEY, YOU KNOW, I MEAN WE COULD LOOK AT IT, BUT UM, WHEN YOU GO COME BACK POUR CONCRETE, YOU GOTTA PULL THAT REFRIGERATED HO REFRIGERANT HOSE IN OUT OF THERE, ALL THE GROUND PIPE, ALL LIKE ALL THAT SAND'S GOTTA COME OUT AND YOU GOTTA RECOURSE.
SO I MEAN, IT IS LIKE YOU'RE DOUBLE PAYING IT.
I WOULD, I WOULD THINK THE COST OF THAT WOULD BE QUITE A BIT NUTS.
I'LL TALK TO THE CONTRACTOR ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, UH, IT'S THE FIRST NICE BREAK I BUILT, BUT WE CAN TALK TO HIM ABOUT IT.
GOTTA MEETING WITH HIM WEDNESDAY.
HOW ABOUT YOU GOT AN IDEA? I DON'T PUT IT OUT THERE.
WELL, I'M JUST GONNA ASK YOU SINCE TODAY IS, IS THURSDAY? THURSDAY? I DON'T KNOW.
I GOT SO MANY EMAILS GOING ON.
WHOEVER WROTE THAT ARTICLE IN THE BUFFALO NEWS WAS SO IRRESPONSIBLE.
THEY SENT FEAR OFF INTO EVERYBODY AND IT WAS WRONG.
IT WASN'T THE BOARDS, IT WAS SOMETHING ELSE THAT WASN'T EVEN MENTIONED.
TOTALLY IRRESPONSIBLE WHOEVER DID THAT.
UM, SO WHERE WAS I GOING? OH, I WAS GONNA ASK YOU, INSTEAD OF WAITING UNTIL WEDNESDAY, CAN YOU CALL TOMORROW? SURE.
SOON AS WE FINISH THIS C LOGO GOES THROUGH.
YEAH, I MEAN MAYBE IT'S NOT AS EXPENSIVE, I DON'T KNOW, BUT IT'S, IT'S AN OPTION THAT'S I THINK AT LEAST WORTH EXPLORING SO THAT WE COULD GET ON THE ICE.
IT'S $32,000 TO PUT ONE INCH OF SAND ACROSS THE WHOLE THING.
NOW WE GOTTA PUT FIVE INCHES OF SAND ON THAT.
THAT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT IMPACT.
WELL AGAIN, KEN, I DON'T KNOW ALL THAT, BUT THE LABOR, THE LABOR'S ALREADY THERE.
YOU'RE PUTTING IN ONE INCH VERSUS FIVE.
YEAH, I MEAN I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST LOOKING FOR, I'M JUST LOOKING FOR ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS THAT GETS US BACK ON A NICE ROLLER.
I'M GONNA LOOK AT 'EM, BUT UM, MY FOCUS IS GONNA BE KEEPING THE PROJECT FOR AS AS I CAN.
IS NOVEMBER 15TH STILL A GOOD DAY? IT'S SOMETHING MACHINE FOR IT'S BEST CASE SCENARIO.
UM, I'M LIKE, I, WHEN WE TALKED ON THE PHONE, I SAID I'M MORE DRIVEN TO BUILD THE BEST RATE I CAN FOR THE MONEY.
I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THIS MONEY, 3 MILLION BUCKS.
I'M NOT REALLY GONNA HANG MY, UH, HANG IT, HANG THIS PROJECT ON THE DUE DATE.
I'M GONNA MAKE SURE IT'S BUILT MY, IF I GET DOWNLOAD THE CONCRETE, I GOTTA REJECT THEM.
I'M NOT GONNA PUT CRAP IN THIS FLOOR.
I DON'T KNOW WHO CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION.
WHO HAS RECENTLY BUILT AN ICE RINK? LIKE IS THERE ANYBODY NICK SCHOOL TO YEAH, I'VE TALKED TO THEM.
NICKEL NICHOL SCHOOLS, UH, MALIBU'S ACTUALLY DOING THEIRS RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE FINISHING THEIRS A SO THOSE CONTRACTORS ARE GONNA BE COMING TO US LIKE IMMINENTLY.
THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WORTHWHILE.
EVEN IF JUST A BOARD MEMBER OR TWO GETS IN A CONVERSATION AND BUILDS A REPORT.
THOSE ONES LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU SEEING? WHAT ARE THINGS WE NEED TO BE WHERE, WHAT ARE OUTSIDE THE BOX? NOT THAT YOU'RE NOT DOING, BUT I THINK YOU HAVE SO MANY OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE NEED TO SUPPORT YOU IN ANY WAY WE CAN, BUT ALSO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CREATIVELY PROBLEM SOLVING AND HELPING YOU NOT SHOOTING A THOUSAND QUESTIONS AT YOU AND SLOWING EVERYTHING DOWN.
UM, SO I APPRECIATE YOUR HONESTY AND CANDOR.
SO NICHOLS AND TOM WA YEAH, NICHOLS IS A, UH, CONCRETE BASE BECAUSE THEY USE IT DURING THE, UH, OFF HOCKEY SEASON.
AND I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS, KEN, ABOUT THAT.
IT, IT NEEDS TO BE DONE CORRECTLY.
AND I WOULD UM, GANDER THAT THAT WAS YOUR PHILOSOPHY RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING.
SO IN THE BEGINNING THEN, WAS THAT COMMUNICATED TO THE ORGANIZATIONS? MAYBE YOU CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.
ABOUT WHAT WERE THE PROMISES MADE? BECAUSE WE KNOW NOW THAT IT STARTED AS EARLY AS IT COULD START.
SO PLANNING THIS, THE SCHEDULE RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING IN PLANNING, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE POTENTIAL FOR DELAYS WOULD BE.
YOU KNOW, YOU GOT THE WORK STARTED RIGHT WHEN IT COULD START, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN POSSIBLY HAPPEN, YOUR PHILOSOPHY ABOUT HAVING A JOB WELL DONE, WHICH WE APPLAUD, BUT HOW DID THAT TRANSLATE INTO THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE SO THAT, YOU KNOW, HINGED
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UPON, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A SCHEDULE TOO.SO WAS THAT COMMUNICATOR? HOW WAS, HOW WAS THAT COMMUNICATED? I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE PUTTING A, A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY ON OUR ENGINEERING DIRECTOR.
HE IS RESPONSIBLE TO COMMUNICATE CERTAINLY WITH THE BOARD AND THE OTHER RELEVANT DEPARTMENTS.
BUT THIS IS A, THIS IS A PROGRAMMATIC QUESTION AND I, I THINK WHAT I THINK WAS THE QUESTION THAT YOU HAD FOR YES, FOR MS. GORMAN KING.
SO I THINK IT'D BE BETTER REFERRED TO, TO JILLIAN.
JILL'S BEEN THERE AND MEETING ALL THE MEETINGS AND, UH, SO, SO THANK YOU.
UM, SO BASICALLY THANK YOU MR. IAN.
I SAID DO NOT PLAN IN THE STATE GOING OF FAST SUIT.
YOU DON'T PLAN ON HAVING A THIRD DAY DELAY.
UM, WE ALSO COMMUNICATED THAT OBVIOUSLY THINGS CAN HAPPEN AND WE COMMUNICATE THAT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
UM, I DIDN'T GET INTO THE WEEDS OF IT ALL 'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY I'M ENGINEER OR CONSTRUCTION.
SO WE DID JUST SAY THERE COULD BE UNFOR, UNFORESEEN ISSUES.
UM, AS OF THE PAST MEETINGS, I THINK IT WAS TWO MEETINGS AGO, UM, NOTHING HAD COME UP.
SO THERE WAS NOTHING TO COMMUNICATE, UM, UNTIL ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO.
AND THEN AT THAT TIME THERE WASN'T A SPECIFIC DATE, SO WE WEREN'T GONNA COMMUNICATE ANY INFORMATION UNTIL WE HAD A SPECIFIC DATE.
UH, WE'D USUALLY HAVE BIWEEKLY MEETINGS, BUT, UH, KEN AND I BOTH ASKED TO HAVE ONE ON THE OFF WEEK AND ORDER TO GET A SPECIFIC DATE FOR THE ORGANIZATIONS.
UM, I DID TELL THEM BY EARLY JULY I WOULD GIVE THEM SOME SORT OF NEWS.
SO THAT'S WHY I SAID I REALLY NEED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF DATE FOR 'EM BECAUSE THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH ICE THEY NEED, UM, WHERE THEY NEED TO GO, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
UM, WE ALSO TOLD 'EM WE HAVE MANY CONTACTS.
WE WOULD HELP 'EM AS BEST WE CAN SECURE ICE IF IT DOES GET TO THAT POINT.
UM, BUT AGAIN, WE, WE ARE JUST COMMUNICATING THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE GIVEN AND DOING IT AS SOON AS WE CAN.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO COMMUNICATE THIS VERY QUICKLY BECAUSE OF, UH, RIGHT AFTER THE MEETING, WHICH IT WAS DONE.
UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE SPOKE TO ALL OF THEM AFTER THAT.
SO JILL, WHAT I'M HEARING IS COMMUNICATION'S GONNA BE KEY YES.
FROM HERE ON OUT WITH EVERYBODY.
SO I THINK I'M GONNA REITERATE MY POINT OF WE NEED TO GET MUHLENBERG HERE FOR EVERY SINGLE BOARD MEETING FOR THE FIRST 10 TO 15 MINUTES OF A STATUS UPDATE WHERE WE ARE WITH THE PROJECT.
THIS IS SINGLE HANDEDLY ONE OF THE LARGEST PROJECTS WE HAVE GOING ON IN THE TOWN RIGHT NOW.
IT IS A LOT OF TAXPAYER MONEY.
THERE ARE A LOT OF STATE GROUPS THAT ARE INFECTED, AFFECTED AND IMPACTED BY THIS.
NOT JUST HAMMER, COX, THE YOUTH REC SENIOR SERVICES IS GONNA BE IMPACTED BY THIS.
THE SKATING STARS IS IMPACTED BY THIS.
THERE ARE TOO MANY GROUPS THAT HAVE A DEEP CONCERN AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S AN UNDUE PRESSURE FOR BOTH YOU AND KEN TO FIELD A LOT OF THESE PHONE CALLS WHEN WE REALLY NEED THE LEVEL OF EXPERTISE FROM THEM TELLING US EXACTLY WHAT THEY KNOW INSTEAD OF US ALL TAKING BITS AND PIECES FROM WHAT WE THINK WE UNDERSTOOD FROM MEETINGS OR WHERE WE HOPE THAT IT'S GOING.
UM, AND THAT WAY TOO, THE FIVE OF US UP HERE ARE ALL VERY IN TUNE TO WHAT'S GOING ON.
I KNOW HAMBURG SCHOOL DISTRICT TOOK ON A GIANT CAPITAL PROJECT AND WE ALL KNOW THE HEADACHES THEY HAD WITH SOME OF THEIR CAPITAL PROJECT, BUT TO THEIR BOARDS CREDITED EVERY SINGLE BOARD MEETING, SCHOOL BOARD MEETING.
THE CONTRACTOR WAS THERE, THE ARCHITECT WAS THERE GIVING US A STATUS UPDATE SO THAT EVERY SINGLE SPORTS TEAM, EVERY SINGLE PARENT, EVERY SINGLE STAKEHOLDER KNEW EXACTLY WHAT WAS GOING ON WHEN THEY HAD HICCUPS WITH THE TRACK FIELD.
WE ALL KNEW, BUT WE ALSO ALL KNEW THE TIMELINE.
UM, AND WE COULD ALL BE A PART OF THE SOLUTION AND A PART OF FINDING A CREATIVE WAY TO GET US TO THE FINISH LINE WHEN WE NEEDED TO.
AND WE WOULD ALL BE COMMUNICATING INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVED EITHER FROM KEN OR FROM D AUTO.
SO I'M NOT INVOLVED IN THIS PORTION OF IT.
SO, UM, AGAIN, THAT'S WHEN WE DIDN'T PREVIOUSLY.
AND AS I SPOKE, UM, TO MOST OF YOU AND SAID, I, I AGREE AND I THINK WE NEED TO ALSO HAVE THE UNIFORM MESSAGE, UM, THAT EVERYBODY'S SAYING, YOU KNOW, THE SAME THING, THE SAME TIMEFRAME.
UM, 'CAUSE IT JUST MAKES SMALLER EASIER.
AND I AGREE WITH, UM, COUNCILWOMAN ERFORD BECAUSE, UM, WE ARE PAYING THESE PEOPLE A LOT OF MONEY, AT LEAST THEY COULD DO IS SHOW UP FOR 10 MINUTES AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND THEN WE COULD ASK THEM DIRECTLY.
'CAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE PLAYING A GAME OF TELEPHONE.
WE'RE TALK TO YOU AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA CALL THEM.
SO IF THEY COME HERE, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE, THIS IS NOT LIKE A, A VENDING MACHINE CONTRACT, YOU KNOW? SO IF WE, YOU KNOW, A SIGNIFICANT CAPITAL INVESTMENT FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE TOWN AND GET 'EM IF THEY, YOU KNOW, IT SHOULD BE HERE SO THEY, THE PUBLIC CAN ASK 'EM QUESTIONS.
'CAUSE I, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL TRYING AND THAT, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW MR. CUSTODIAN'S TRYING, YOU'RE TRYING.
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BUT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF WE COULD GET IT.AND I AGREE WITH WE'RE WE'RE PAYING MICHAEL BANKS ARCHITECT FROM DTO.
TO CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION, PART OF IT.
SO INSTEAD OF BRINGING THE CONTRACTOR IN, HE DOESN'T HAVE THE, THE AUTHORITY TO WORK GOES THROUGH.
THAT'S WHOEVER HAS TO COME HERE THAT COULD ASK.
I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR IN CASE THERE WAS BE SOME TYPE OF, THEY CAME HERE TO GET THE CONTRACT, THEY COULD COME HERE AND THAT'S RIGHT.
SO IT WOULD BE DE NOT MENTION TO US.
I THINK THAT'S HELPFUL THAT WE SHOULD JUST PLAN IN THEM EITHER BEING HERE AT THE START OF EVERY BOARD MEETING OR THE LAST 15, 20 MINUTES OF EVERY WORK SESSION.
THAT WAY EVERY STAKEHOLDER GROUP TOO KNOWS AT SIX 40 THEY'RE GOING ON AND THEY'RE GONNA GIVE A STATUS UPDATE.
OR THEY'RE THE FIRST THING ON THE WORK SESSION AT FIVE 30 EVERY, I THINK CLOSER TO SIX 40 IS BETTER BECAUSE MANY OF THESE STAKEHOLDER GROUPS HAVE FAMILIES THAT ARE WORKING AT, SURE.
FIVE 30 WOULD BE TOUGH, BUT I THINK IT HELPS, LIKE THEY KNOW THERE'S A TIME THEY CAN COME AND GET ANSWERS VERSUS CALLING EACH ONE OF US AND THEN US CALLING YOU AND THEM CALLING.
IT'S JUST, AND IT'S CREATING STRESS, UNDUE STRESS AND UNDUE ANXIETY.
AND WE NEED TO JUST COMMUNICATE.
UM, SO I'M WITH THE HAMBURG HAWKS BOARD AS WELL.
SO I AM UNFORTUNATELY THE PERSON TASKED WITH THE DUTY OF JUST FINDING US FOR ALL, WHAT 600 PLUS KIDS WE'VE GOT.
SO, AND, AND I UNDERSTAND THIS.
THE PROBLEMS I JUST NEED, AND MAYBE PART OF IT WAS
SO FROM WHAT I HEARD, YOU'RE SAYING PLAN 30 DAYS OUT.
SO RIGHT NOW, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, WHAT I HEARD, AND YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I NEED TO PLAN ON THE HAWKS NOT BEING ON THE NIKE BASE UNTIL AT LEAST DECEMBER 15TH.
BECAUSE IF IT'S NOVEMBER 15TH, SO 30 DAYS ORIGINALLY IS WHAT WE
IT'S ALL BETTER PLAN FOR NOVEMBER 15TH OR DECEMBER 15TH BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, A LOT OF, AND AND THE ORGANIZATIONS LOCALLY HAVE BEEN FANTASTIC.
A LOT OF ICE SCHEDULERS HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME AND SAID, WE'RE GONNA SEND YOU EVERYTHING WE HAVE FOR YOU TO PULL.
I KNOW I'M MEETING WITH WES SENECA LATER TONIGHT.
YOU KNOW IT, IT'S A LOT TO GET 40 PLUS HOURS OF ICE FOR MULTIPLE MONTHS TOGETHER.
AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE OUR KIDS IN OUR TOWN AND THE OTHER KIDS WHO COME IN AND PLAY HAVE THE BEST EXPERIENCE THEY CAN.
SO I, LIKE I SAID, IF I PLAN, IF YOU'RE LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT, IT'S THE BEST PLAN NOT TO BE ON NIKE UNTIL DECEMBER AND IF IT ENDS UP BEING NOVEMBER THAT WE CAN GET ON SOME OF THE PLACES WILL ALLOW ME TO TURN THE ICE BACK IN WITHIN A CERTAIN TIMEFRAME.
OBVIOUSLY WITHIN TWO WEEKS I CAN'T DO IT.
WE JUST HAVE TO, WE JUST HAVE TO GO SKATE ON THAT ICE.
BUT I MEAN, FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, AND I, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU.
YOU GOTTA BUILD THE BEST WORK YOU CAN.
WE WANT IT FOR ANOTHER 50 YEARS.
I GOTTA PROVIDE OUR KIDS AND OUR COACHES WITH WHAT THEY NEED TO GIVE THEM THE BEST OPPORTUNITY.
BUT I CAN'T DO THAT WITHOUT INFORMATION BECAUSE ORIGINALLY I WAS THINKING, OKAY, I'M GONNA GO INTO OCTOBER BECAUSE I'M A LITTLE WORRIED ABOUT DELAY.
AND THEN YOU'RE LIKE, OH, LIKE I'VE BEEN STRESS CALLING AND TEXTING A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE MM-HMM
THIS PAST WEEK GOING LIKE, I NEED ICE THROUGH NOVEMBER.
I NEED TO FIND ICE THROUGH NOVEMBER.
AND YOU KNOW, NOT EVERY ORGANIZATION OF COURSE IS QUICK BEING ICE SELLERS TO GET BACK TO YOU.
WELL I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE A COUPLE WEEKS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHERE I HAVE TO BOOK TO.
SO DO I NEED TO COME TO THE MEETINGS? DO I NEED TO LIVE STREAM THE MEETINGS TO FIGURE OUT WHEN, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I MEAN SKATE RATES IN THERE SERVICE AND THEY'RE LAGGING STARS.
SO, SO IT'S MR. QUILL AND LETS ME KNOW, UH, LET YOU EXACTLY DO QUILL TO HAVE MY PHONE NUMBERS
SO I'M THINKING FROM WHAT I'M HEARING FROM EVERYBODY, YOU SHOULD PLAN ON SHOOT FOR AFTER THANKSGIVING BEFORE YOU'RE INTO NIKE.
IF YOU GET THERE BEFORE IT'S, WE'RE ALL VERY GRATEFUL THANKSGIVING DINNER TABLE.
IT GIVES US A COUPLE WEEKS BUFFER I THINK, BECAUSE THAT WILL FILL OUT.
I WOULD, I THINK, UM, AND SOMEBODY BEING PRESENT, AT LEAST UNTIL WE GET OUR FOOTING WITH THE COMMUNICATION WOULD BE HELPFUL OR LIVESTREAM IT.
UM, AND THAT WAY YOU AT LEAST HAVE THE MOST UP-TO-DATE INFORMATION AND WE'RE ALL HEARING THE INFORMATION AT THE EXACT SAME TIME SO WE CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER TO FIND A SOLUTION.
SO WE'RE GONNA WORK TOGETHER AS A BOARD TO TRY TO INCENTIVIZE ANYWAY FOR CONTRACTORS TO GET OUT HERE AND GET IT DONE QUICKER.
BUT I ALSO DON'T, AS A MOM OF KIDS, I DON'T WANNA SEE THE HOUSE PROGRAM GONE BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETIMES THE MOST ATTAINABLE FORM OF RECREATION,
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RIGHT.NOT EVERY FAMILY CAN AFFORD TRAVEL.
NOT EVERY FAMILY CAN AFFORD THE, THE BURDEN OF ACTUALLY TRAVELING TO OUTSIDE THEIR COMMUNITY FOR THE RECREATION AND TO HAVE A LOCAL HOCKEY PROGRAM.
WE'RE BUFFALO LIKE, IT'S COLD IN THE WINTER.
WE DO COLD SPORTS AND, AND FOR PEOPLE LISTENING ANYWAY, I'M, I'M CONFIDENT I CAN SECURE ENOUGH ICE FOR US.
IT MIGHT NOT BE WHAT WE'RE USED TO, BUT IT'LL BE WHAT WE NEED.
UM, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF LIKE IF I BOOK ICE UNTIL THE END OF NOVEMBER AND THEN I FIND OUT TOO LATE IN NOVEMBER, WELL YOU NEED DECEMBER TOO.
THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING TO PERSONALLY RUN INTO THE PROBLEMS CONTINUING TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT FOR OUR KIDS BECAUSE I'M HOPEFUL ONCE BOOKED, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT LOOKS SO THE EARLIER NOTICE I GET, YEAH.
THE BETTER MY OPPORTUNITY WILL BE AS THINGS COME UP.
BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER BOARD MEETING TILL AUGUST.
AND I WOULD SAY, UM, I WILL REITERATE THIS 'CAUSE I, I GUESS MAYBE I'M OVERLY OPTIMISTIC, BUT, UM, WE'RE GOING TO LOSE REVENUE FOR THE TOWN.
SO I KNOW THAT MR. ESTONIA, WHEN HE LEAVES HERE, WHETHER IT'S TODAY OR TOMORROW, YOU'LL CHECK WITH THE CONTRACT.
I THINK IT WOULD BE A WORTHWHILE INVESTMENT FOR THE TOWN BECAUSE IF WE'RE GONNA LOSE X REVENUE, 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE IT COMING IN FOR ICE RENTALS, I WOULD BE WILLING TO PAY A PREMIUM TO SAY PUT US ON TOP OF THE LIST.
THAT'S JUST, I MEAN, WE'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL FIVE OF US, BUT MAYBE, MAYBE THERE'S A WAY TO SAY, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU PUT US FIRST ON, ON YOUR LIST? LIKE, UM, YEAH, I MEAN YOU'RE LOW BALLING.
WELL, NOT, NOT TO MENTION FAMILY, I'M JUST THROWING NUMBERS.
WELL, NOT TO MENTION THE FAMILY'S LEAVING THE ORGANIZATION 'CAUSE THEY WANNA PLAY HOCKEY AND THEY'RE GONNA SAY, WELL IF YOU'RE NOT READY, I'M GONNA GO TO ORCHARD PARK, I'M GONNA GO TO WEST SENECA.
YEAH, THAT WAS, I THINK THAT'S MY CONCERN.
WE'LL KEEP UP THAT WAY AND WE'LL I WOULD, I WOULD RECOMMEND STAYING IN TOUCH WITH, WITH RECREATION.
THIS, IT'S A, IT'S A PROGRAM QUESTION.
UH, JILL SHOULD HAVE THE MOST UPTODATE AND ACCURATE INFORMATION.
UH, AND SHE'LL BE GETTING THAT FROM MR. ESTONIA AND HE'S VERY RESPONSIVE TO THE PUBLIC.
UM, BUT I'D LIKE HIM TO USE HIS TIME GETTING THE PROJECT DONE.
UM, SO I SENT OUT AN EMAIL TO ALL OF OUR FAMILIES THE OTHER DAY, TELL 'EM ABOUT THIS MEETING.
WE GET BACK AND LET AN UPDATE.
CAN I GET A COUPLE OF PARAGRAPHS FROM SOMEBODY THAT EXPLAINS THE DELAY? I I THINK THE FAMILIES ARE ROLLING SOME CLARITY OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
UM, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA TRY AND GO FORWARD WITH THE SEASON.
IF, IF WE CAN BOOK 16 HOURS AT CCC ON SATURDAY, SUNDAY, THEN OUR HOUSE PROGRAM MIGHT BE OKAY.
BUT, UM, I I THINK THEY DESERVE SOME CLARITY.
I MEAN, I JUST WANNA SIT THERE AND GO, WELL THE LATE FROM NOVEMBER 15TH, BLAH BLAH BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
I DON'T WANNA BE MISINTERPRETED AND I DON'T WANT, I WANNA HAVE ACCURATE INFORMATION.
WAS THE, WAS THE PRESENTATION THAT YOU WITNESSED TODAY CLEAR ENOUGH FOR ME? YES.
BUT I NEED A COUPLE OF PARAGRAPHS SURE.
YOU JUST DON'T WANNA MISQUOTE ANYTHING.
SO I'M SURE THAT WE CAN PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING THAT REFLECTS WHAT WAS IN THE PRESENTATION.
I'LL DRAFT SOMETHING SUPERVISOR, OFFICER REX.
DID YOU HAVE A COACH? YEAH, I'M JUST LOOKING IF WE'RE GOING TO SET UP THIS CONTINUING COMMUNICATION, WE HAVE A BOARD MEETING THE 19TH OF, OR THE 5TH OF AUGUST AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER ONE UNTIL THE 9TH OF SEPTEMBER.
CAN YOU PLEASE SPEAK WITH DEANO? I'M THINKING THE 19TH OF AUGUST, SET UP LIKE A FIVE O'CLOCK MEETING, LIKE A RINK UPDATE MEETING FOR INTERESTED PARTIES JUST TO GIVE A STATUS UPDATE AND THEY CAN ASK SO THAT WE'RE NOT GOING A MONTH.
BECAUSE THAT REALLY AT THAT POINT IS A YEAH.
THAT'S A FIVE WEEK THEY KILLED ME UNTIL IN THE SUMMER.
EVERY WORK THAT CONSTRUCTION SEASON.
NO, AND I THINK OF WHAT'S, AS MUCH AS WE ALL WOULD LIKE TO NOT BE SITTING HERE EVERY CHANCE WE GET, UM, LET'S DO IT.
LET'S PUT IT ON THE SCHEDULE, LET'S PUT IT THERE.
AND THAT WAY YOU KNOW YOU HAVE OUR SUPPORT.
THEY KNOW THAT THEY CAN GET ANSWERS.
JILL'S HERE, SHE'LL BE ABLE TO GET ANY CHANGE ORDERS SHE NEEDS DONE AND WE ALL HAVE IT READY TO GO.
TANYA, DO YOU WANT THE WORK SESSION FOR, YOU SAID A INFORMATIONAL MEETING.
INFORMATIONAL MEETING, OR DO WE WANNA JUST HAVE A REGULAR SCHEDULED BOARD MEETING? JUST INFORMATIONAL MEETING BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN VOTE ON AT THAT POINT.
SO, WELL THE 19TH, IF WE NEED TO DO A CHANGE ORDER, WE COULD, WE COULD LOOK AT IT THE FIFTH AND CHANGE THE INFORMATIONAL MEETING TO A BOARD MEETING IF WE NEED TO.
YEAH, BUT I THINK SPECIAL MEETING WE CAN ALWAYS SEE, WE CAN ALWAYS 48 HOURS THERE, THERE ARE PROVISIONS LIKE 48 HOURS TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING.
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I'D RATHER NOT CONSTANTLY HAVE TO HAVE SPECIAL MEETING AFTER SPECIAL MEETING AFTER SPECIAL MEETINGS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN PLAN ON BEING A PART OF IT.ARE YOU GONNA ASK THE GENTLEMAN TO BE HERE ON THE 5TH OF AUGUST FOR THE MEETING? YEAH, I'LL HAVE MY SET IT UP, SET IT UP FOR A WORK SESSION, LET HIM COME IN AND THEN SET UP SOMETHING THE 19TH, UM, LIKE A MEETING, A FOUR O'CLOCK MEETING AND I'LL MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE AND I'VE WRITTEN ALL THIS DOWN AS A, AS AMENDMENTS TO THE RESOLUTION THIS EVENING SO WE CAN PUT IT ALL IN THERE.
BRAD, I'LL APPRECIATE THE NOTES.
SO IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE FURTHER FROM THE PUBLIC OR ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. AK WHEREAS TOWN OF HAMBURG ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT HAS REQUESTED ADDITIONAL ITEMS TO BE INCORPORATED INTO CONSTRUCTION OF PHASE ONE AND TWO A OF THE PROPOSED ARENA UPGRADE PROJECT TO ADDRESS UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES FOUND DURING THE DEMOLITION PHASE OF THE PROJECT.
AND WHEREAS MOBERG BETS SUBMITTED A CHANGE ORDER NUMBER TWO WITH FOUR ITEMS TO BE REMEDIATED TO THE MOVE FORWARD WITH CONSTRUCTION AS LISTED, THEREFORE BE RESOLVED.
THE HENDRICK TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZED THE TOWN SUPERVISOR TO SIGN THE CHANGE ORDER.
TWO FOR LINBERG BETS INCORPORATED IN THE AMOUNT OF $63,411 AND 86 CENTS FUNDS AVAILABLE IN ACCOUNT H 1 11 7 1 8 5 4 4 0 ICE SER CONTRACTED SERVICES.
WELL ACTUALLY I'D LIKE, I'D LIKE TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT AFTER THERE'S SECOND.
SO MS. UH, FAR LAUREN'S GONNA APPROVE A MOTION AND A SECOND I'D LIKE TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT SECOND.
UM, AND AS I GO THROUGH THE AMENDMENTS, PLEASE IF THERE'S ANY, IF ANYONE SEES ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED, UM, THE FIRST AMENDMENT AND BRAD, I DO HAVE ALL THESE FOR YOU.
THE FIRST WOULD BE THAT, UM, WE IN THE, IN THE RAZ, UH, LET'S SEE THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED.
THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD DIRECTS THE TOWN SUPERVISOR TO SIGN TODAY.
I KNOW THAT KEN HAS BROUGHT THOSE WITH HIM TODAY.
THE CHANGE ORDER AND IT GOES ON AS PREVIOUSLY STATED.
AND THEN IF YOU WOULD ADD THE FOLLOWING, AND AGAIN, I HAVE THIS WRITTEN DOWN.
UM, THE FIRST WOULD BE AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, THE TOWN BOARD DIRECTS THE DIRECTOR OF UH, DPW KEN CUSTO WILL SEND AN UPDATE AND STATUS REPORT ON THE NIKE SITE ICE ARENA PROJECT TO THE ENTIRE TOWN BOARD EACH AND EVERY FRIDAY AFTERNOON.
AND WILL COPY APPLICABLE DEPARTMENT HEADS, AMIRO TOWN ENGINEERING CONSULTANT AND ALL OTHER APPLICABLE CONSULTANTS WORKING ON THE PROJECT AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED.
THE TOWN BOARD DIRECTS DIRECTOR OF YOUTH REC AND SENIOR SERVICES, JILL GORMAN KING TO EMAIL THE TOWN BOARD ANY AND ALL UPDATES ON THE CONTINGENCY PLAN FOR SERVICES AND PROGRAMMING AND COMMUNICATION TO ORGANIZATIONS IMPACTED BY NIKE SITE ICE ARENA PROJECT UPDATES AND STATUS REPORTS AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED.
DENA WILL PRESENT AN UPDATE TO THE TOWN BOARD AT THE BEGINNING OR THE END OF EACH TOWN BOARD WORK SESSION.
MR. MCDERMOTT, I KNOW THERE WAS A QUESTION, WHAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TIME-WISE IF IT IS AT THE BEGINNING.
SO WE HAVE A SET TIME IF IT'S AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH WORK SESSION, WHICH WOULD BE FIVE 30.
IS THAT, I KNOW THERE WAS A QUESTION WHETHER THAT WAS A GOOD TIME FOR THE ORGANIZATIONS INVOLVED.
SO I'LL LEAVE IT AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH TOWN BOARD WORK SESSION AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED.
AUGUST 19TH, 24 WILL BE SCHEDULED AS A NIKE SITE ICE RINK PROJECT UPDATE MEETING AT 4:00 PM AT TOWN HALL.
DID I GET EVERYTHING AND IS IT CORRECT? SECOND, I CAN JUST CLARIFY WHAT IF THAT'S AN INFORMATIONAL MEETING OR A SPECIAL MEETING.
I KNOW THERE IS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT INFORMATIONAL MEETING.
YEAH, I THINK AT THIS POINT WE'LL DO INFORMATIONAL AND WE CAN UM, CAN WE CAN CHANGE IT TO A YES.
BOARD MEETING AT ANY PLENTY TIME CHANGE.
SO ALL IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT? AYE.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION, SAY AYE.
IF THERE'S NO OTHER BUSINESS FROM THE FLOOR, I'LL ENTERTAIN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.