* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [WORK SESSION] [00:00:03] I AM CALLING THE, UM, WORK SESSION. OOPS. MY, UH, BIGGEST VIOLATOR. I'M CALLING THE, UM, APRIL 16TH TOWN OF HAMBURG PLANNING BOARD WORK SESSION TO ORDER. WE HAVE THREE CASES TONIGHT. WE DO NOT HAVE A QUORUM, HOWEVER, FOR THE WORK SESSION. THERE'S, UM, NO VOTING ANYWAYS, SO WE WILL BE HEARING YOUR, YOUR, UH, CASES AND MOVING FORWARD. OUR FIRST CASE IS CAN SPACE INC. REQUESTING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND C SITE PLAN APPROVAL OF A PROPOSED, UH, PROPOSAL, SORRY TO OPERATE A CANNABIS DIS, UH, DISPENSARY, DISPENSARY, AT 4 1 5 1 MCKINLEY PARKWAY. EASY FOR YOU TO SAY. OKAY. GO AHEAD. HI, UH, GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME'S ELISE GIO. I'M COUNSEL FOR, UH, CAN SPACE. THIS IS BRENDAN CARAM, THE OWNER OF CAN SPACE. SO BEFORE YOU GET STARTED SURE. LET ME JUST TELL YOU THAT WE'VE GOT SOME NEW MICROPHONES TONIGHT. OKAY. I'LL TALK AND YOU HAVE TO TALK RIGHT INTO THE MICROPHONE IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE PICKED UP ON OUR WEBSITE. SURE. OKAY. OKAY. AND, UM, ALSO FOR OUR RECORDING. ABSOLUTELY. IS THIS GOOD? SO WHEN YOU'RE BOTH GONNA TALK? YES. OKAY. OKAY. SO GO AHEAD. OKAY, GREAT. HI, UH, MY NAME'S ELISE GIO. I'M COUNSEL FOR CAN SPACE AND HEADSPACE, UH, LOCATED AT 41 51 MCKINLEY PARKWAY, HAMBURG. UH, THE OWNER IS BRENDAN CARRUM OF BOTH ENTITIES AS WELL. IN TODAY'S, UM, WORK SESSION, WE'RE ACTUALLY JUST, UH, LOOKING FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR CAN SPACE AND NOT FOR HEADSPACE, BUT THEY'LL BOTH PROBABLY BE COMING UP IN, IN THE CONVERSATION DUE TO THEM BEING RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER AND OWNED BY THE SAME OWNERS. UM, SO WE HAVE A SITE PLAN, UH, HERE BEFORE YOU, UM, NOW CAN SPACE, JUST FOR REFERENCE, HAS ALREADY BEEN LICENSED BY THE STATE OF NEW YORK, HAS PROPERTY PROTECTION. SO WITH THE STATE OF OF NEW YORK, THEY HAVE, UM, CERTAIN STEPS THAT ARE NEEDED TO TAKE, UM, BY EACH APPLICANT TO BECOME A LICENSE. AND SO, UM, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, CAN SPACE HAS WHAT WE CONSIDER A THOUSAND FOOT BUFFER, UM, FOR ANY OTHER DISPENSARIES IN THE AREA. BUT AT THIS POINT, WE STILL HAVE TO GET THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO FULFILL THE LICENSE STRUCTURE. UM, BUT WE WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE ARE COMPLIANT AT THE STATE LEVEL CURRENTLY. AND AT THIS POINT, THIS IS THE LAST STEP IN THE PROCESS UNTIL WE CAN GET TO OUR FINAL INSPECTION. UM, ANY QUESTIONS ON YOUR END THAT WE CAN BE MORE POINTED FOR YOU AND, AND JUST, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND SOME OF YOUR, YOUR COMMENTS OR CONCERNS? UM, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO OFFER TO US TONIGHT BEFORE WE GET, USUALLY THE APPLICANT PRESENTS THEIR INFORMATION. SURE. THEN WE GO TO THE PLANNING BOARD, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, THEN WE GO TO ENGINEERING, AND THEN WE GO TO THE BOARD. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION TO GIVE US WHATSOEVER, IT'S BEST TO GIVE IT UPFRONT. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. SO, UM, CAN SPACE HAS ALREADY IMPLEMENTED ITS SECURITY PLAN. THEY'VE ENGAGED WITH A SECURITY COMPANY. THEY ALSO HAVE A POINT OF SALE SYSTEM THAT'S BEEN ENGAGED WITH. UM, THE SITE PLAN IN GENERAL HAS ALREADY BEEN TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. IT'S A LITTLE BIT, UM, LESS OF A, OF A BUILD OUT IN THIS CASE BECAUSE ALL THE, THE APPLICANT WILL BE DOING HERE IS HAVING A NON LOAD BEARING WALL, REPLACING SOME FLOORING AND DOING SOME PAINTING ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY NEXT TO HEADSPACE. SO HEADSPACE AND CAN SPACE ARE GONNA BE IN TWO SEPARATE SUITES. UM, ONE IS A NON MARIJUANA ENTITY, SO WE DON'T WANNA COMMINGLE THEM. THIS IS AN ENTIRELY SEPARATE ENTITY, EVEN THOUGH IT HAS THE SAME OWNERS. UM, THE BUILDING, WE HAVE A VERY STRONG RELATIONSHIP WITH MR. METZ, WHO'S THE LANDLORD. UM, THEY'VE ENGAGED IN THIS LEASE FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS NOW AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS. VERY LITTLE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THE INTERIOR, BUT THERE, THERE'S PLENTY OF PARKING SURROUNDING THE AREA. WE IMAGINE THAT IT'S GONNA BE CO-MINGLING A LITTLE BIT WITH HEADSPACE PARKING, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, UM, THE OTHER TYPES OF ENTITIES THAT ARE IN THAT SPACE ARE LIKE A FIJI GRILL. THE BURGER KING IS ON THE, ON THE SAME PROPERTY, BUT NOT IN THE SAME PLAZA. UM, AND FRANKLY, IT'S KIND OF SILOED INTO ITS OWN LITTLE AREA WITH HEADSPACE ON THE CORNER. AND THERE'S ADDITIONAL PARKING ON THE SIDE WHERE HEADSPACE IS LOCATED AS WELL. WE DON'T ANTICIPATE. UM, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY FOOT TRAFFIC WOULD LOOK LIKE, YOU KNOW, FOR PEOPLE PER DAY? UM, I GUESS WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SEE HOW THINGS, THINGS GO. UM, UH, CAN YOU TALK TO THE MIC? UH, I APOLOGIZE. UM, I GUESS WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SEE HOW THINGS GO AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY CUSTOMERS ARE GONNA BE COMING IN PER DAY. UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, MAYBE 50 WOULD BE A NUMBER TO START WITH THAT WE'LL HAVE TO SEE TO BE, TO BE EXACT. UM, THERE WAS A, UH, 10 TANNING SALON THERE THAT WAS PRETTY BUSY. THEY HAD TO MOVE BECAUSE THEY WERE JUST, THEY WANTED TO GET MORE, MORE SPACE IN THERE SO THEY WERE ABLE TO HANDLE ALL THAT PARKING. UM, SO IT SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM. TYPICALLY WHAT WE SEE IN A A, A BUSINESS STARTING OUT IS ABOUT A HUNDRED CUSTOMERS PER DAY IS USUALLY THE STANDARD THAT WE LOOK AT. BUT THAT COULD INCLUDE JUST, UH, PICKUPS. SO THIS BUSINESS WILL OPERATE WITH BOTH, UH, A PICKUP INSIDE. SO SOMEBODY MIGHT BE ABLE TO ORDER ONLINE, BUT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SECURITY OF WALKING INTO THE STORE AND PICKING UP THEIR BAGGAGE CHECKING IDS. UM, BUT THAT WOULD TAKE LESS TIME WHILE THEY'RE INSIDE BECAUSE THE, THE PRODUCT'S ALREADY BEEN [00:05:01] PURCHASED AND BAGGED AND THEN IT'S JUST GETTING PICKED UP. UM, TYPICALLY WHAT THE USUAL AMOUNT OF TIME SOMEBODY MAY STAY IN A STORE FOR IS, IS ROUGHLY AROUND 10 TO 15 MINUTES MAXIMUM. UM, USUALLY PEOPLE COME IN WITH AN IDEA OF WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR AND THEN THEY LEAVE. IT'S NOT REALLY ANY SITUATION IN WHICH THEY'RE, THEY'RE LINGERING OR HANGING OUT BECAUSE IT'S VERY MUCH A COUNTER AND A PURCHASE AND THEN AN EXIT. UM, AND, AND I WOULD SAY THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ON OUR END WHAT WE'RE, UH, HERE TO PRESENT ON. WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR, OR OTHER ITEMS THAT YOU GUYS MAY HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. JOSH. CAN YOU, UM, ADD A FEW THINGS FOR US? YEAH. I JUST HAVE, UH, A COUPLE QUESTIONS. SO JUST FOR REFERENCE, YOU'RE GOING INTO THIS BUILDING RIGHT IN HERE, RIGHT? OH, RIGHT, RIGHT IN HERE. THIS BUILDING? YES. OKAY. 'CAUSE THERE'S HEADSPACE HERE, THEN THERE'S A FIJI GRILL, RIGHT? YEP. IT'S IN BETWEEN THE FIJI GRILL AND HEADSPACE. OKAY. YEAH. AND THEN YOU'RE UTILIZING THE EXISTING PARKING THAT'S IN THIS KIND OF PLAZA FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR BUSINESS? THAT'S WHAT'S IN THERE? YES. OKAY. UM, AND THEN ONE OF MY OTHER QUESTIONS IS, SO FOR OUR ADULT USE CANNABIS LAW, THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT SECURITY AND WHAT SECURITY MEASURES YOU'RE GONNA DO. CAN YOU KIND OF JUST SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT SECURITY MEASURES YOU'RE GONNA HAVE FOR YOUR BUSINESS? SURE. ABSOLUTELY. SO WE HAVE ALREADY, UM, BEEN BEEN IN STATE COMPLIANCE THUS FAR IN WHAT WE'RE STARTING TO IMPLEMENT. IT'S LIKE, UH, FULL-TIME SECURITY, 24 HOURS, EIGHT HOUR BACKUP CAMERAS. UM, THERE'S A LOT OF JUST DATA STORAGE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE, CERTAIN AREAS IN WHICH THE CAMERAS ARE LOCATED. UH, JUST SECURITY MEASURES. SO WE DON'T SERVE ANYBODY WHO'S UNDER 21, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY A VERY BIG COMPONENT OF THIS, RIGHT. IS SO WHEN SOMEBODY ENTERS INTO A CANNABIS RETAIL DISPENSARY, THEY ENTER, THEY SHOW THEIR THEIR LICENSE BEFORE THEY'RE ALLOWED TO GET INTO THE DOOR. RIGHT? UM, THAT'S EITHER THROUGH A MEMBER OF THE COMPANY OR THROUGH A SECURITY GUARD, DEPENDING UPON WHO, UM, IS OPERATING THE STORE. ONCE THEY WALK IN. IT'S LIKE NORMALLY A COUNTER, UH, THERE ISN'T ANY ACCESS TO CANNABIS ON THE FLOOR. YOU CAN SEE PRODUCTS, YOU CANNOT TOUCH THEM. MM-HMM . AND THEN WHAT YOU DO IS YOU WORK WITH A PERSON BEHIND THE TABLE AND THAT YOU, YOU TELL THEM WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR OR, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, ALMOST POINTING TO THINGS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO GET. ONCE YOU HAVE YOUR DETERMINATION FOR WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO PURCHASE, THEY GO THEN BACK INTO A SEPARATE ROOM THAT'S ACCESSED WITH A FOB, UM, BY PEOPLE OVER 21. THEY GO, THEY RETRIEVE THE, THE ITEMS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO GRAB, COME BACK OUT BEHIND A TABLE. YOU'RE AT A POINT OF SALE SYSTEM, YOU BAG IT, YOU MAKE SURE IT'S IN A CHILD RESISTANCE AND SAFETY BAG. AND THEN THEY EXIT THE DOOR AFTER THEY'VE CHECKED THEIR LICENSE AGAIN BEFORE PURCHASING. SO THERE'S TWO TYPES OF LICENSE OR TWO TIMES THE LICENSES ARE REVIEWED, YOU'RE IN SEALED PACKAGING, CHILD RESISTANT PACKAGING. AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, HEAVILY UNDER MONITOR WITH, WITH THE SECURITY REGULATIONS, OBVIOUSLY MORE THAN WE WOULD SEE WITH A LIQUOR STORE. AND THEN MY, MY LAST QUESTION IS, UH, DO YOU HAVE, UH, ESTIMATED HOURS OF OPERATION? YEAH, WE WERE, WE'RE PLANNING TO BE COMPLIANT WITH THE, WITH WHAT'S IT CALLED. SOUNDS GOOD. AND THAT, THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS. DID YOU LOOK AT MY NOTEBOOK BEFORE THE MEETING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE. SO MY, UM, WE'RE GONNA TURN IT OVER TO THE OTHER TWO BOARD MEMBERS. MY NAME'S AUGUST JARI AND WILL, THE PRODUCT WILL NOT BE CONSUMED ON THE PREMISE. IT'S PURCHASE AND LEAVE. YEAH. SO THERE'S NO ONSITE CONSUMPTION. THAT'S AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT, UH, LICENSE. UM, AND EVEN THE STATE DOESN'T HAVE REGULATIONS YET THAT DICTATE THE ONSITE, UH, REGULATIONS FOR ANY DISPENSARIES. UM, THEY DO HAVE AN OPTION, BUT AT THIS TIME IT'S NOT ACTIVATED. AND IF ANYTHING, IT WOULD COME BEFORE THE BOARD AGAIN IF THEY HAD CHOSE TO DO THAT WITHIN THE STATE. BUT CURRENTLY, NO, THERE IS NO CHANCE THAT THE, UH, LICENSE IS USING AN ONSITE CONSUMPTION ON THE PREMISES. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? THE OTHER, THE OTHER THING IS, UM, HOPEFULLY WE'RE GONNA GET INTO WARMER WEATHER. AND FUJI GRILL GETS TO BE EXTREMELY BUSY. MM-HMM . AT LATE LUNCH AND DINNER TIME. UM, PARKING COULD BE DIFFICULT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A, A BIG SIZE PLAZA MM-HMM . BUT PARKING, I KNOW AT DINNER TIME 'CAUSE I GO THERE AT FIVE O'CLOCK AND I HAVE A HARD TIME FINDING A PARKING SPACE TO HAVE DINNER . YEAH. SO I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO A WAIT AND SEE APPROACH ON THAT JUST BECAUSE WE CAN'T DICTATE WHAT TIMES PEOPLE ARE COMING IN AND OUT. RIGHT. UM, TRAFFIC FOR CANNABIS IS VERY VARIABLE. SOMETIMES IT'S VERY HEAVILY, YOU KNOW, POST THE FIVE O'CLOCK WHEN PEOPLE KIND OF GET HOME SITUATED AND THEN THEY GO BACK OUT. UM, I THINK BRENDAN AND RAY WHO ISN'T PRESENT TODAY, BUT THE TWO OWNERS, WHAT WE'LL DO IS MORE OF A WAIT AND SEE APPROACH AND THEN TALK WITH JOE IN THE EVENT THAT WE MAYBE NECESSARILY HAVE TO GO BACK AND ASK FOR MORE PARKING JUST BASED OFF THE FACT THAT TWO ENTITIES ARE NOW, YOU KNOW, UM, SERVICING THESE TYPES OF CUSTOMERS. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANKS. MEMBER FINLEY? NO, EVERYONE GOT MY QUESTIONS? UM, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. SURE. SO FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES, UM, 'CAUSE NOTHING IS IN OUR NOTES OR IN OUR BREAKDOWN ABOUT HEADSPACE. SO ARE YOU RUNNING TWO BUSINESSES? WHAT DOES HEADSPACE HAVE TO DO WITH CAN SPACE? JUST THAT THEY'RE THE SAME OWNERSHIP. THEY'RE NOT, UH, COMMINGLING AT ALL, BUT JUST THAT THEY'RE SIDE BY SIDE, [00:10:01] SAME OWNERSHIP. UM, AND SO YOU'LL SEE BRENDAN AND KAREN OPERATING, UH, BRENDAN AND RAY OPERATING BOTH, BUT THIS IS A TOTALLY SEPARATE ENTITY THAT REQUIRES A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. WE'RE JUST FOR PURPOSES OF BACKGROUND INFORMATION, YOU KNOW THAT THEY HAVE BEEN BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE COMMUNITY FOR OVER 10 YEARS IN THE, IN THE LOCATION, YOU KNOW, JUST ADJACENT TO IT. UM, THEY'VE HAD NO COMPLAINTS. THEY'VE OPERATED WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE LAW AND JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THESE ARE NOT GUYS COMING OUT OF TOWN FROM WHEREVER TO STICK A CANNABIS STORE IN HAMBURG. JOSH, UM, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. MM-HMM . UM, CAN YOU CLEAR UP THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND WHAT SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS ARE, OR ARE THERE ANY SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS FOR THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN THIS DISTRICT? SO YEAH. THE SPECIAL USE PERMITS THAT ARE IN OUR ADULT USE CANNABIS LAW ARE THAT THEY CAN'T BE WITHIN 200 FEET OF A HOUSE OF WORSHIP. UH, THEY CAN'T BE WITHIN 500 FEET OF A SCHOOL GROUNDS AND THEY CAN'T BE WITHIN 500 FEET OF A COMMUNITY FACILITY. BUT FROM THE STATE'S DEFINITION, THAT'S REALLY WHAT A YOUTH FACILITY. SO, UH, THE STATE UPDATED THEIR REGULATIONS, SO WE'RE GOING BY WHAT THE STATE SAYS. SO THEY CAN'T BE WITHIN 500 FEET OF THE YOUTH FACILITY. AND WE RAN THIS BY OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, AND I BELIEVE HE SAID THEY WERE IN CONFORMANCE WITH ALL THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT STANDARDS. AND THEN WE HAVE FOUR OTHER, UH, SPECIAL USE STANDARDS THAT GO TO THE, UM, HOURS OF OPERATION, WHICH I ASKED THEM ABOUT SECURITY MEASURES, WHICH WE JUST ASKED THEM ABOUT. AND THEN, UH, ALL OF THEIR DISPENSARIES HAVE TO BE WITHIN A FULLY ENCLOSED BUILDING AND THEY MEET THAT AS WELL. 'CAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BE UTILIZING THIS EXISTING BUILDING. SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, FROM OUR REVIEW, WE BELIEVE THAT THEY MEET ALL OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT STANDARDS AT, AT THIS MOMENT. OKAY. ENGINEERING, I DON'T BELIEVE YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO OFFER IN THIS CASE, OR DO YOU? NO, UM, BECAUSE IT'S AN EXISTING SITE, EXISTING BUILDING, THEY'RE NOT MODIFYING ANY OF THE SITE. UM, BUT A SITE PLAN IS TECHNICALLY PART OF THEIR SPECIAL USE. SO WE'LL NEED LIKE A SURVEY OR SOMETHING THAT WE CAN STAMP AS THE OFFICIAL SITE PLAN, SIMILAR TO OTHER PROJECTS THAT HAVE UTILIZED EXISTING STRUCTURES AND SITES. SO WE STILL DO NEED TO SEE A SITE PLAN FROM THEM. YES. OKAY. WE'VE ALWAYS DONE THAT FOR, FOR OTHER BUSINESSES MOVING INTO EXISTING STRUCTURES, BUT NOT MODIFYING THE SITE. WE USUALLY ASK JUST FOR THE EXISTING SURVEY SO THAT WE CAN USE THAT TO DOCUMENT A SITE PLAN PER OUR CODE. OKAY. AND THEN I JUST HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION JUST FOR A CLARIFICATION. HEADSPACE HAS BEEN AN EXISTING BUSINESS FOR A WHILE RIGHT? AND THEY'RE LIKE A SMOKE SHOP KIND OF THING? THEY'RE AN ACCESSORY STORE. ACCESSORY STORE. OKAY. YES. BUT JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THEY'VE EXISTED FOR A WHILE. THIS IS 10, 10 YEARS. OKAY. 10, YEAH. BEEN IN THAT EXACT PROPERTY. RIGHT. OKAY. YES. IN, IN REGARDS TO THIS SURVEY, WE DO HAVE A SITE PLAN ATTACHED TO THE SUBMISSION FOR THE SPECIAL USE. YEAH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE HARD COPIES FOR, FOR EVERYONE. UM, YEAH, WE HAVE, YEAH, WE'D BE HAPPY TO WHATEVER IS NECESSARY. WE, I EVIDENTLY WE HAVE THE HARD COPIES. THEY'RE GONNA, WE'LL SEE THOSE FOR THE YEP. OKAY. I THINK THAT ALL OF OUR PRELIMINARY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED. UM, SO I THINK THAT WE CAN MOVE AHEAD AND DO WE HAVE ROOM ON MAY 6TH FOR A PUBLIC HEARING FOR MAY 7TH? YES, WE DO. OH, IT SAYS MAY 6TH. IS IT MAY 7TH? UH, LEMME DOUBLE CHECK THAT. I BELIEVE IT'S MAY 7TH. MAY 7TH. YEAH. UM, IN ADDITION FOR MAY 7TH, WE ASK THAT, UH, DETERMINATION BE MADE ON MAY 7TH IF POSSIBLE, POST THE PUBLIC HEARING. UM, WE'VE BEEN DELAYED QUITE A BIT. WE HAD TO APPEAL THE ENFORCEMENT CODE ON COMMUNITY FACILITY, UM, WHICH WAS DONE IN CONGRUENCE WITH THE STATE. IT'S BEEN A FEW MONTHS SINCE, UH, THEIR LICENSE HAS BEEN AWARDED AND THE PROCESS OF SPECIAL USE. AND WE JUST IN TERMS OF EXPEDIENCY, WOULD, WOULD ASK THAT WE CAN POTENTIALLY GET A APPROVAL ON THAT DATE? OR, OR, OR A DIFFERENT VERDICT? WELL, I'M GONNA BE HONEST, UM, WE DON'T USUALLY GUARANTEE ANY OF THAT. WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A FULL BOARD. UM, DEPENDING ON HOW THE PUBLIC HEARING GOES, I CAN'T MAKE A DETERMINATION OR SAY THAT WE CAN DO IT THAT NIGHT. OKAY. IT, IT'S, IT'S, THIS IS OUR PROCESS. RIGHT. I CAN APPRECIATE THAT. YOU WANNA GET THE BUSINESS OFF THE GROUND. I REALLY DO. UM, DOES THIS BOARD WANT, WE JUST HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. THIS BOARD, UH, MADAM CHAIR, DOES THIS BOARD WANT US TO PREPARE DRAFT APPROVAL RESOLUTIONS FOR CONSIDERATION? YOU KNOW WHAT, I DON'T, I, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH NOT HAVING A FULL BOARD TONIGHT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. OKAY. SO I CHECKING WITH LEGAL, THE ONLY THING I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT I COULD DO TONIGHT IS ORDER THE PUBLIC HEARING. GOTCHA. OKAY. SO I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH MOVING THAT FORWARD. OKAY. UM, SO WE WILL SEE YOU BACK ON THE SEVENTH? YES. AND WE HAVE THE SITE PLAN HERE, IS THAT CORRECT? NO. YES. OKAY. WE HAVE ONE. OKAY. SO WE'LL SEE YOU BACK ON THE SEVENTH. OKAY. WE APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT CASE IS LES DROUGHT REQUESTING PRELIMINARY APPROVAL OF A TWO LOT SUBDIVISION TO BE LOCATED ON A VACANT LOT WEST SIDE OF SOUTH ABBOTT ROAD, SOUTH OF ARMOR DRIVE. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO SUBDIVIDE FROM THE DROUGHT FARM, A BUILDING LOT FOR HIS DAUGHTER TO BUILD A, A HOME ON. AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE. SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROCEED AND PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU TALK INTO THE MICROPHONE. OKAY. UH, THIS IS ALL NEW TO ME, SO I'M NOT QUITE SURE OF ALL THE PROCESS, BUT, UH, [00:15:01] THAT IS THE REASON THAT, UH, THAT I WANT TO SUBDIVIDE THE FARM INTO THE TWO LOTS IS SO MY DAUGHTER CAN BUILD A HOUSE THERE. SO HOW MANY ACRES IS THE FARM? LET'S START THERE. THE FARM IS JUST UNDER 25. AND HOW MANY ACRES ARE YOU GIVING YOUR DAUGHTER? TWO. JUST TWO . JUST KIDDING. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA, UM, DOES SHE ALREADY HAVE PLANS FOR A HOUSE? SHE'S, SHE DOES. UM, THEY'RE NOT FINALIZED YET, BUT, UH, WITHIN A COUPLE OF DAYS SHE SHOULD HAVE THE FINAL PLANS. OKAY. IT'S ABOUT A THIR. SHE'S LOOKING AT ABOUT A 1,350 SQUARE FOOT RANCH. OKAY. UM, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANT US TO KNOW? UM, I MEAN, NOT REALLY. UM, IT, IT JUST CAME ABOUT THAT SHE'S BEEN TRYING TO GET A HOUSE FOR A LONG TIME AND IT HAS GOTTEN DISCOURAGED WITH PUTTING IN BIDS AND GETTING BEAT OUT BY A FAIR AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT, UM, THAT MAYBE THE HOUSE MIGHT NOT EVEN BE WORTH WHAT SOMEBODY'S WILLING TO PAY FOR. SO I JUST SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M, THAT END OF THE FARM IS NOT THE BEST GROUND AS FAR FOR GROWING. UH, WE USE IT, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT THE BEST. AND I WOULD JUST ASSUME, UH, LET HER HAVE THE USE OF IT TO, UH, BUILD THE HOUSE THAT SHE WANTS AND, UH, AND CAN AFFORD. OKAY. THANK YOU. PLANNING DEPARTMENT. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO OFFER? UH, ALL THAT WE WOULD OFFER IS THAT UNDER SEAGER? THIS IS AN UNLISTED ACTION. UM, HE'S OWN RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL, SO HE MEETS TOWN REQUIREMENTS. WE RAN IT BY THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. HE WAS COMFORTABLE WITH THE, THE TWO LOT SUBDIVISION. UH, AND SO ARE WE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THIS AND WE WOULD RECOMMEND SCHEDULING A PUBLIC HEARING. UM, BOARD MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? NO. CONGRATULATIONS ON BEING A GREAT FATHER IT. WE'LL PASS OUT THAT AWARD AFTER THE, AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING. UM, IF THERE, THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS. ENGINEERING DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHERE THE LOT'S GONNA EMPTY OUT TO WHAT ROAD? DO WE KNOW IF THERE'S GONNA BE CURB? A CURB CUT WOULD BE ALLOWED. IS THAT GONNA BE AN ISSUE ON SOUTH ABBOT? NO, THAT WON'T BE AN ISSUE ON SOUTH ABBOTT. OKAY. THEN, UM, LET'S MOVE FORWARD AND, UM, SCHEDULE THIS FOR MAY 7TH. UM, SO WE WILL SEE YOU BACK HERE ON MAY 7TH. WE'RE GONNA ORDER A PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. THEY'LL SEND OUT NOTICES AND, UM, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON FROM THERE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT CASE IS BENDERSON DEVELOPMENT REQUESTING SITE PLAN APPROVAL OF A PROPOSAL FOR PARKING ADJUSTMENTS AT 3 6 7 0 MCKINLEY PARKWAY. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE EXISTING PARK PARKING FIELD AT 3 6 7 0 MCKINLEY PARKWAY TO ACCOMMODATE A NEW TENANT IN THE BUILDING PROPERTY ZONE C TWO. AND THIS IS A TYPE TWO SEEKER ACTION. AND, UM, PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF. GOOD EVENING CHAIRWOMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MATTHEW OATS WITH BENDERSON DEVELOPMENT. OKAY. JUST MAKE SURE THAT YOU'VE GOT THE MIC UP. I DON'T KNOW IF, DOES THAT MIC COME OUT OF THE STAND? I THINK IT COMES OUT, YEAH. YOU CAN COME OUT OF THE STAND SO YOU MAY BE MORE COMFORTABLE. IS THAT BETTER? YEAH, IT'S MUCH BETTER. OKAY, PERFECT. UM, WE ARE REQUESTING A MODIFICATION TO THE PARKING IN THIS SECTION OF THE PLAZA. RIGHT NOW. THERE IS A CANOE ISLAND, UM, THAT RUNS ACROSS THERE WITH PARKING UP AGAINST IT. THE CANOE ISLAND, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN, IS VERY SMALL. IT'S MAYBE FOUR TO FIVE FEET WIDE. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS EXTEND THE DOUBLE ROWS IN THIS AREA DOWN TO GET SOME ADDITIONAL PARKING. IN THIS SECTION. WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL VACANCY IN THIS AREA, SO THAT'LL HELP WITH LEASING OUT THIS VACANCY AND JUST PROVIDING SOME EXTRA PARKING IN THIS AREA. BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, WITH WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH THE BOARD PREVIOUSLY IN REGARDS TO WHEN THE STARBUCKS WENT THROUGH, AND THEN FOR THE CORE LIFE, WE'RE ALSO GONNA EXTEND ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE ISLANDS IN THIS DIRECTION AS WELL. AND THEN A COUPLE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE ISLANDS IN THIS DIRECTION. AS THE BOARD IS AWARE, ALL THE ISLANDS CURRENTLY JUST END WITH STRIPING. THERE'S LIKE NO LANDSCAPING IN THERE. MM-HMM. SO WE'RE GONNA USE THIS AS A WAY TO GET ABOUT 10 ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE ISLANDS IN THERE. EACH MOMENT HAVE A TREE AND ADDITIONAL SHRUBS AND WINDS UP WITH ADDITIONAL PARKING, BUT ALSO AN ADDITIONAL ABOUT 1500 SQUARE FOOT OF LANDSCAPING IN THE PLAZA AS WELL. SO WE KIND OF THINK IT'S A KIND OF A WIN-WIN. WE CAN GET MORE LANDSCAPING AND GET MORE PARKING JUST BY LOOKING AT THIS RECONFIGURATION. HOW MANY MORE PARKING LOT SPOTS? UH, WE GET APPROXIMATELY 19 MORE PARKING SPACES. AND THAT WOULD BE A TOTAL FOR THE WHOLE SITE? THE TOTAL FOR THE [00:20:01] WHOLE SITE, I BELIEVE IS FOUR 14. AND HOW MANY BUSINESSES ARE ON THE PROPERTY? UH, RIGHT NOW, 15, 14, 15. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. AND YOU'RE BRINGING IN ANOTHER BUSINESS? WELL, WE HAVE AN AVAILABLE VACANCY HERE. OKAY. SO, WHICH IS IN THE AREA OF THAT. SO IT'S JUST, IT'S HELPING FOR THE LEASING OF THAT, OF THAT SPACE TO TRY TO TRY TO GET THAT LAST VACANT SPACE LEASED OUT. OKAY. UM, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANNA OFFER? NOPE, THAT'S THE, THAT'S IT. THERE'S NO, WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO ADD ANY BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE AS PART OF THIS. SO THIS IS ONLY RIGHT NOW JUST THE MODIFICATION TO THAT AREA. SO JUST TO CLARIFY, YOU WOULD BE ADDING 19 PARKING PLACES AND ADDITIONAL, UM, LANDSCAPING AND ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING YES. PLANNING DEPARTMENT. NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I GIE HANG ON. I THINK IT'S A GOOD PLAN. UM, THE BUILDING INSPECTOR IS SENDING THIS TO YOU BECAUSE IT'S A CONFIGURATION OF THE PARKING LOT ITSELF. SO HE'S HOPING THAT TRAFFIC SAFETY WILL WEIGH IN. I'VE SENT THE PLAN TO THAT BOARD, BUT IT WA I DIDN'T SEND IT TO HIM UNTIL A FEW DAYS AGO. BUT, UH, WE'RE HOPING TO GET SOME COMMENTS FROM TRAFFIC SAFETY. TRAFFIC SAFETY DID GIVE US A COMMENT ON ONE CASE, BUT IT WASN'T THIS ONE. IT WASN'T THIS ONE, NO. SO THEY JUST GOT, THEY WERE JUST, THEY JUST GOT IT. YEAH, THEY JUST GOT IT. UM, I WILL SAY THAT, SO I RAN THIS, UH, PLAN, UH, CONCEPTUALLY THROUGH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. ONE THING THAT THEY DID MENTION THAT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO, IS THAT THEY HAD A QUESTION OF CONCERN ABOUT THE KIND OF THE DISTANCE OF THIS STOP AISLE IN THIS STOP AISLE TO THE ENTRANCE OF PEOPLE COMING IN. UM, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HE WAS ASKING ABOUT, IF YOU COULD JUST SPEAK TO, UM, YOU KNOW, WHETHER YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THIS STOP AISLE BEING HERE AND THIS ONE HERE, OR IF THERE WAS A, YOU KNOW, ABILITY TO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, MOVE SOMETHING OR, YOU KNOW, ADJUST SOMETHING. THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT HE BROUGHT UP, UH, IN OUR PRELIMINARY REVIEW OF THIS PARKING LOT PROJECT. OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S JUST A PARKING LOT ADJUSTMENT. WE DON'T REALLY HAVE MANY OTHER COMMENTS, BUT THAT'S JUST ONE COMMENT I WANTED TO BRING TO THIS BOARD AND TO YOU TO SEE IF YOU HAD ANY THOUGHTS ON, ON THAT RIGHT THERE. SO BEFORE YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION, DO YOU HAVE A PICTURE OF WHAT IT WOULD BE COMPLETED? LIKE, UH, LIKE, UH, THE AFTER THE AFTER PICTURE THAT THAT IS, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO. OKAY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. NO, IT'S OKAY. SO YEAH, SO THIS, THERE'S HONESTLY, THERE'S PROBABLY A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO IT. YOU COULD PROBABLY ACTUALLY TAKE THAT STOP BAR AND SHIFT IT CLOSER TO THE INTERSECTION PROBABLY BY ANOTHER 10 FEET. MM-HMM . PULLING IT IN FRONT OF THAT STOP BAR AS WELL BECAUSE THERE'S STILL A SIGNIFICANT GAP. GAP RIGHT. BETWEEN THAT CURB LINE AND WHERE THAT IS. SO WE COULD PROBABLY PULL THAT FORWARD THAT WOULD LET THAT CAR EXIT AND COME OUT, PULL INTO THAT STOP BAR. RIGHT. AND THEN STILL STOP THERE. YEAH. SO WE COULD DO THAT FOR SURE. OKAY. DO YOU GUYS HAVE A GENERAL IDEA OF THE BUSIEST TIMES FOR WHEN PEOPLE COME IN AND OUT OF THIS PLAZA ON AVERAGE? WELL, I MEAN, GENERALLY IT WOULD BE RETAIL LIKE SEVEN TO NINE IN THE MORNING. SEVEN WOULD BE MORE THE STARBUCKS RETAIL THOUGH WOULD BE RIGHT FOUR TO SIX OR, OR ON A SATURDAY WITH THE MIXTURE THAT'S HERE WITH A COUPLE DIFFERENT RESTAURANTS. I, I HONESTLY THINK THIS PLAZA'S, IT'S KIND OF SPREAD OUT AND IT KIND OF STAYS MORE CONSISTENTLY RIGHT. BUSY THROUGHOUT THE DAY. 'CAUSE YOU'VE GOT A COUPLE RESTAURANTS THEY'LL PICK UP THE NIGHT, STARBUCKS TO GET YOU IN THE MORNING. YOU GOT SOME GOOD LUNCH SPOTS IN THERE AS WELL. AND THEN YOU GOT TJ MAXX AND SOME OTHER SHOPPING AS WELL. SO WE THINK IT'S KIND OF SPREAD OUT. OKAY. THOSE WERE, THOSE WERE ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. ENGINEERING. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? UH, GENERALLY THIS IS A PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD PROJECT SINCE THEY ARE ACTUALLY JUST DECREASING ASPHALT BY ADDING THE LANDSCAPE ISLANDS. WE'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT DRAINAGE. UH, WE WOULD JUST REVIEW THE GRADING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DIDN'T CAPTURE ANY LOCATIONS AROUND THE ISLANDS THAT ARE GONNA CAUSE ANY PUDDLING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. UH, IT'D BE A PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD REVIEW. SO I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. BOARD MEMBERS? NO. NO, I DO NOT. NO QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS FROM TWO OF THE BOARD MEMBERS. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. UM, IN CREATING THIS, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY, YOU'RE NOT GONNA NEED ANY VARIANCES WHATSOEVER IN CHANGING THIS PARKING LOT? CORRECT. AND, UM, THERE IS NO SEEKER THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. NOPE. TYPE TWO ACTION. OKAY. AND, UM, MY ONLY OTHER CONCERN IS ABOUT THE LANDSCAPING COMING CLOSER TO THE STREET. WHEN YOU'RE COMING IN, IS THERE GONNA BE ANY KIND OF VISIBILITY PROBLEM? THERE YOU GO. IF THERE'S GONNA BE ANY KIND OF VISIBILITY PROBLEM COMING IN. HOLD ON ONE SECOND. LET ME, SO I CAN PULL THE LANDSCAPE AND PLANT UP ON MY END. YEAH. DO YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD BE IN THE LANDSCAPE ISLAND OFF CHANCE? YEAH. SO THE TREES PROPOSED ARE IVORY SILK, LILAC, AND THEN THE REST ARE ALL LOW. THEN THE REST ARE ALL LOW SHRUB. SO WE'RE PROPOSING ONE TREE PER ISLAND. MM-HMM . AND THEN THE REST WILL BE SHRUGGED. SO THE TREE WOULD KIND OF BE CENTERED IN THE ISLAND SHRUBS ON THE OUTSIDE. [00:25:02] I MEAN, WE COULD, WE COULD JUST KIND OF GO WITH LOW SHRUB PLANTING AND NOT DO TREES, WHICH IS ALSO FINE AS WELL. THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM AT ALL. WE COULD DO THAT TOO. I, I THINK I WOULD LOOK AT THAT. OKAY. OKAY. ONLY BECAUSE THIS IS A PRETTY BUSY SECTION AND I SPENT A GREAT DEAL OF TIME ON MCKINLEY OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS AND I, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE TREES, I, I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF LANDSCAPING, DON'T GET ME WRONG. NO, UNDERSTOOD. BUT THE VISIBILITY IS MORE IMPORTANT AND WITH THIS CHANGE AND PEOPLE COMING IN OFF OF MCKINLEY LIKE THAT, I JUST, I DON'T WANT ANY FURTHER THERE. OTHER, FOR LANDSCAPING, YOU CAN STILL DO LANDSCAPING, BUT JUST KEEP IT, KEEP IT LOW, LESS THAN THREE FEET TALL SO EVERYONE HAS A NICE, CLEAR THAT IT WOULD BE ATTRACTIVE BUT NOT TAKE AWAY FROM THE ABSOLUTELY. YEP. WE'LL LOOK AT THAT FOR SURE. OKAY. AND YOU DID AGREE THAT YOU WOULD LOOK AT MAYBE AN ALTERNATIVE FOR THAT ONE STOP BAR CORRECT. THAT WE MENTIONED. OKAY. YEP. THANK YOU. SO, UM, GIVEN THE RECORD THAT WE'RE WAITING FOR TRAFFIC, UM, OUR NEXT STEP IS TO, TO, UH, THEY NEED A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS PROJECT. YEAH. UM, UM, DO YOU THINK WE'LL HAVE THE INFORMATION FROM TRAFFIC BY THEN? WE CAN HUNT THEM DOWN. ALRIGHT. IF YOU'RE GONNA HUNT 'EM DOWN, JUST TELL MATT IT WASN'T MY IDEA. GOTCHA. OKAY. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DO THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE'LL SCHEDULE IT FOR MAY 7TH. UM, IF YOU WANNA UPDATE THAT LANDSCAPING, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS. YEP. WE'LL ABSOLUTELY WANNA SEE THAT. THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'LL HUNT DOWN OUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT. OKAY. AND WE'LL TRY TO GET THAT ALL TOGETHER FOR THE 7TH OF MAY. OKAY. PERFECT. DO YOU GUYS WANT HARD COPIES OR JUST ELECTRONIC OR HARD COPIES WOULD BE NICE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. WE'LL MAKE THE SAME SUBMITTAL WE READ IT. ALRIGHT. OKAY. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. UH, WE STILL NEED ELECTRONIC THOUGH. YEP. NO, I'LL GET YOU ELECTRONIC AND COPY. OKAY. PERFECT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH EVERYONE. THANK YOU. GREAT. EASTER AS WELL. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THE SAME TO YOU. ALRIGHT. OKAY. WE HAVE THREE MINUTES BEFORE WE START THE NEXT MEETING. UM, I'M NOT GONNA SHUT THE MICROPHONES OFF, SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO PAUSE FOR THREE MINUTES. GOTCHA. ONE LITTLE NOTE IS THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE THREE WEEKS BETWEEN THIS MEETING AND THE NEXT. SO HOPEFULLY IN THAT TIME, TRAFFIC HAS TIME TO COMMENT. OH, OKAY. 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT TWO WEEKS BETWEEN MEETINGS. WE'RE ACTUALLY THREE THIS TIME AROUND. OH, OKAY. AT THIS TIME, AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE, UM, APRIL 16TH, 2025 PLANNING BOARD MEETING TO ORDER. PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. SO WE, BEFORE WE GET STARTED, AND I CALL THIS MEETING, CALL THE FIRST PETITIONER UP TO, UM, TO HEAR THEIR CASE, I'M JUST GONNA TELL THE BOARD THAT YOU'LL SEE THAT OR TELL THE AUDIENCE THAT YOU'LL SEE THAT THE TABLE IS A LITTLE THIN. WE ONLY HAVE THREE BOARD MEMBERS TONIGHT, WHICH MEANS WE DO NOT HAVE A QUORUM, HOWEVER, DUE TO ILLNESS, UM, AND VACATION. SO, UM, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS WE'RE GONNA HEAR THE CASES, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE, UM, PUBLIC HEARINGS. UH, IF ANY NEED TO BE DONE, THERE WILL BE NO VOTES THIS EVENING ON ANYTHING BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE A QUORUM. IF THERE'S ANY PETITIONER THAT'S IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO HAVE THEIR CASE POSTPONED UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING AT THIS POINT IN TIME, YOU CAN DO SO NOW. SO THAT'S, UM, RMV HOLDINGS, LLC STURDY BUILT SHEDS, WHICH I BELIEVE WE HAD A RESOLUTION FOR THEM, WHICH WILL, YOUR RESOLUTION WILL NOT GET VOTED ON TONIGHT. UM, LARDEN DISPOSAL SERVICES AND BJ MUIRHEAD. SO OUT OF THOSE CASES, IS THERE ANYONE THAT WISHES TO HAVE THEIR CASE POSTPONED STURDY? BILL, ARE YOU HERE? MAD CHAIR ON BEHALF. SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO TALK RIGHT INTO THAT MICROPHONE. WE HAVE A NEW RECORDING SYSTEM AND NOBODY HEARD WHAT YOU JUST SAID. [00:30:01] WAIT, BEFORE, BEFORE, BEFORE YOU START REAL QUICK, IS HE PRESENTING HIS CASE? 'CAUSE NO, I'M JUST ASKING HIM. YOU'RE NOT GONNA PRESENT YOUR CASE. I'M ASKING YOU IF YOU WISH TO BE TABLED TILL THE NEXT MEETING. 'CAUSE WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO VOTE ON YOUR RESOLUTION TONIGHT. WE DO NOT HAVE A QUORUM. I UNDERSTAND. SO WHAT WOULD BE THE ALTERNATIVE TO BEING TABLED? SO THEN YOU WOULD COME BACK ON THE 7TH OF MAY, THE WHOLE BOARD WOULD HEAR YOUR CASE. THE RESOLUTION WOULD BE PRESENTED AND VOTED ON. OKAY. DO YOU WANT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE TABLED TILL THEN? WHAT WOULD BE THE ALTERNATIVE TO BEING TABLED? THAT'S WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND. IT'S GONNA GET TABLED ANYWAYS AND IT'LL JUST SAVE YOU THE TIME, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO PRESENT ANYTHING TONIGHT. SURE. AND IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, I MEAN, IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE NEEDED TO TAKE BACK, BUT IF NOT, THEN WE WERE HAPPY TO BE TABLED. I THINK AT THIS POINT YOU'RE BETTER OFF JUST BEING TABLED. SO I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT TO DO, BUT YES, WE'D BE, BUT ID AS THE CHAIR, I'M OFFERING THIS AS A COURTESY. I REALIZE THAT THIS IS AN INCONVENIENCE, BUT WITH THE AMOUNT OF ILLNESSES, GOD BLESS WHOEVER JUST SNEEZED WITH THE AMOUNT OF ILLNESSES GOING AROUND, YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THAT THIS CAN HAPPEN. YEAH. SO, UM, SO, SO HE'S BEING TABLED TO THE SEVENTH. THE, UM, STURDY BILL SHEDS ARE BEING TABLED TO THE SEVENTH. OKAY. JUST FOR THE RECORD, THE AGENDA IS GONNA SKIP OVER WHEN WE SKIP HIM, BUT WELL, WE'LL, WE'LL DO WITH THAT THEN. I KNOW, I KNOW, BUT I JUST, I HAD TO DO THAT ANYWAYS, BUT WE'LL COVER THAT LATER. ALRIGHT. OKAY. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'LL SEE YOU ON THE SEVENTH. THE TECHNICAL PEOPLE ARE PROBABLY YELLING MY NAME RIGHT NOW. OKAY. SO WE NOW WILL START OUR REGULAR MEETING, UM, [1. RMV Holdings LLC – Requesting Preliminary Plat Approval of a 2-lot subdivision to be located at 4091 Jeffrey Boulevard ] M OUR RMV HOLDINGS, LLC REQUESTING A PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL ON A TWO LOT SUBDIVISION TO BE LOCATED AT 4 0 9 1 JEFFREY BOULEVARD. YOU'RE BACK. BACK, UM, UM, YOU MAY PROCEED. THANK YOU. CORY AUERBACH FROM THE LAW FIRM OF BARKLEY DAMON ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. CO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT, PUT THAT MICROPHONE RIGHT UP TO YOUR MOUTH. IT'S, IT'S, I I'M JUST THE MESSENGER HERE. UNDERSTOOD. I'LL TAKE MY CUES FROM YOU. THERE YOU GO. UM, COREY AUERBACH FROM THE LAW FIRM OF BARKLEY DAMON ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. UH, ANTHONY PANDOLFI FROM CARMINA WOOD DESIGN IS HERE AS WELL. UH, ANTHONY PRESENTED THIS AT THE, I BELIEVE IT'S A MARCH 5TH MEETING MAYBE. UM, THIS IS A TWO LOT SUBDIVISION. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED AS PART OF THIS EFFORT. THIS IS, UH, THE APPLICANT IS THE CONTRACT PURCHASER OF ABOUT EIGHT AND A HALF ACRES OF VACANT LAND. THIS IS A 16 PLUS OR MINUS ACRE PARCEL, THE FRONTAGE OF WHICH IS IMPROVED WITH A FORMER AUTOZONE DISTRIBUTION FACILITY. THIS WAS ALL PART OF A LARGER INDUSTRIAL PARK DEVELOPMENT IN THE EARLY NINETIES WHEREIN THERE WAS AN EIS THAT WAS APPROVED AND A FINDING STATEMENT DONE BY THE TOWN. UM, THE APPLICANT IS THE CONTRACT PURCHASER OF THE VACANT PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY. AND THE SALE, FRANKLY, IS BEING HELD UP BY THIS APPROVAL. THE PURCHASER OF THE DISTRIBUTION FACILITY AND THE PURCHASER OF THE VACANT LAND CLEARLY CAN'T PROCEED WITH THEIR ACQUISITION BEFORE A SUBDIVISION IS APPROVED. UM, THESE LOTS STRICTLY COMPLY WITH THE UNDERLYING ZONING REQUIREMENTS. THIS IS A SPLIT ZONE PARCEL, PARTIALLY ZONED M1 AND M TWO FRONTING ON JEFFREY BOULEVARD. UM, THE LOTS, EACH, AGAIN, STRICTLY COMPLY. THERE IS A, THE REQUEST IS ESSENTIALLY TO PUT AN INVISIBLE PROPERTY LINE ON THIS PARCEL RIGHT AT THE BEND OF THE JEFFREY, UH, BOULEVARD, UH, TURN. SO A, UH, A A BOUNDARY LINE WOULD BE PUT IN APPROXIMATELY 35 FEET FROM THE WALL OF THE BUILDING TO CREATE A SINGLE PARCEL. NO IMPROVEMENTS ARE PROPOSED, NO MODIFICATIONS TO ANY SITE ACCESS ARE PROPOSED. IT'S SIMPLY JUST TO PUT AN INVISIBLE BOUNDARY LINE IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS PROPERTY TO CREATE A NEW VACANT PARCEL, UH, UPON WHICH NO DEVELOPMENT IS CURRENTLY PROPOSED. SO AS IT RELATES TO CCRA, WE WOULD, UH, PROPOSE THAT THERE ARE NO POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS BECAUSE THERE IS NO PLAN, CURRENT PLAN FOR DEVELOPMENT FOR THIS SITE. UM, AND AS A RESULT, WE ARE HOPEFUL THAT THE PLANNING BOARD CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT IS ESSENTIALLY A LOT SPLIT REQUEST. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? ONLY THAT, AGAIN, TO REITERATE THAT THIS INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT WAS PREVIOUSLY REVIEWED AS PART OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT. AND AS A FOLLOW UP TO THAT, IF THERE WERE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ON THE VACANT PORTION OF LAND, THAT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT WOULD COME BACK BEFORE THIS BOARD, AT WHICH TIME ANY POTENTIAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE REVIEWED AT THAT TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, PLANNING DEPARTMENT, UH, OUR ONLY COMMENT IS, LONG STORY SHORT, WE'RE ONLY DOING SEEKER ON THE SUBDIVISION AND ANYTHING THAT COMES BEFORE US ON THE [00:35:01] VACANT POWER CENTER OF LAND, WE WILL REVIEW AT THAT TIME. SO. OKAY. UM, ENGINEERING, UH, NOTHING FROM ENGINEERING. OKAY. BOARD MEMBERS. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. IS THE MEMBER FINLEY, GO AHEAD. IS THE 35 FEET FROM THE BACK OF THE BUILDING ENOUGH SPACE TO THE PROPERTY LINE? YES, IT STRICTLY COMPLIES WITH THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS FOR THE ZONING DISTRICT. OKAY, THANK YOU. WELCOME. I HAVE NO QUESTIONS. UM, I HAVE A FEW. SO I DROVE OUT THERE AND IT DEFINITELY IS, UM, BETWEEN MCKINLEY AND UM, JEFFREY BOULEVARD. THAT'S WHERE I WAS THIS WEEKEND, IF ANYBODY WAS LOOKING FOR ME. UM, IT'S DEFINITELY A, UM, AN INDUSTRIAL SITE ON THE CORNER AND ON THIS MAP, I CAN'T REALLY TELL THERE'S A GROUP OF TREES. WHICH PROPERTY IS KEEPING THOSE TREES? IS IT GOING WITH THE SPLIT OR IS IT STAYING WITH THE BUILDING? I'M DELAYING AS THE AERIAL COMES UP SO THAT I CAN SEE EXACTLY WHICH TREES. OH, WE SHOULD HAVE JEOPARDY MUSIC AT THIS POINT. OKAY. DOWN. YOU'RE TOO FAR NORTH I THINK. YEAH, THERE, IT'S RIGHT IN THERE. OH, GO TO THE BEND, BOTTOM LEFT. RIGHT NOW IT'S, IT'S RIGHT THERE. BOTTOM. THERE YOU GO. THERE IT IS. YEP. SO I'M GONNA GET UP AND SHOW YOU WHERE THOSE TREES ARE. SO AM I, THIS IS THE BUILDING, CORRECT? CORRECT. AND THERE'S A PATCH OF TREES. AND SO THE LOT IS HERE IS IT'S BEHIND THIS BUILDING CORRECT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. OKAY. SO IF YOU LOOK RIGHT WHERE THE BEE IS IN BOULEVARD OF JEFFREY BOULEVARD, UH, ON THE, THE TURN THERE. OKAY. THE LINE IS GONNA GO BASICALLY RIGHT ACROSS THERE. RIGHT HERE. CORRECT. SO I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE TREES. THERE'S A PATCH OF TREES, IT'S ALMOST LIKE ON A CORNER. SO I REALIZE THAT THERE WERE SOME, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF DEAD TREES IN THERE, BUT NONETHELESS, WHOEVER'S GOING TO IT SHOULD EITHER BE CLEANED UP OR IF IT'S GONNA GO WITH THE OTHER PROPERTY. AND MY OTHER QUESTION IS, WITH THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY, WHERE IS THEIR ENTRANCE AND EXIT GONNA BE OFF OF THE NEW PIECE OF PROPERTY? SO THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED FOR THAT VACANT LAND AT THIS TIME. OKAY. AT SUCH TIME AS A DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL, YOU KNOW, IS PUT FORWARD, WE WOULD BRING THAT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR YOUR REVIEW AND DISCUSSION AND COMMENT. BUT ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT VACANT SITE AT THIS TIME WOULD BE COMPLETELY SPECULATIVE. SO, BUT HOW DO THEY GET ONTO THE PROPERTY ONCE YOU SPLIT IT? THEY WILL NEED ACCESS TO JEFFREY BOULEVARD. OKAY. SO THAT'S THE OWNER'S, THE OWNER'S CONCERN? CORRECT. OKAY. THAT IS THE PURCHASER'S CONCERN? YES. OKAY. THE NEW OWNER, SORRY. OKAY. I DON'T HAVE, UM, THE, LIKE I SAID, I WANT IT ON THE RECORD ABOUT THOSE TREES I WOULD LIKE. UM, I THINK THAT'S GOING WITH THE NEW PROPERTY. THE EXISTING BUILDING IS THE CARQUEST WAREHOUSE THAT'S NOW EMPTY. CORRECT. OKAY. AND THIS SUBDIVISION WILL HELP FACILITATE THE SALE OF THAT WAREHOUSE AND DISTRIBUTION FACILITY SO THAT IT WILL BE BROUGHT BACK INTO USE AGAIN. OKAY. THAT WAS MEMBER AUGIE THAT JUST ASKED THAT QUESTION. OKAY. UM, SO OUR NEXT STEP HERE IS TO PREPARE THE DRAFT RESOLUTION FOR THE NEXT MEETING. NO, UH, SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING. I THOUGHT WE ALREADY DID A PUBLIC HEARING. OH, WE DID DO A PUBLIC HEARING. YEAH, WE DID. SO YES. SO DRAFT APPROVAL. YEP. WE DID A PUBLIC HEARING. AND JUST A REMINDER ALSO AT THAT MEETING WHERE THE PUBLIC HEARING TOOK PLACE, UH, THE APPLICANT DID MAKE A REQUEST TO WAIVE THE FILING REQUIREMENT FOR THE FINAL PLAT. YEP. I, UM, OKAY, SO WE HAVE ROOM ON THE SCHEDULE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING FOR MAY 7TH. SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE A PUBLIC HEARING. WE EVER, WE ACTUALLY HELD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS PROJECT. OH. SO WE DON'T NEED A PUBLIC HEARING, SO WE DON'T NEED A PUBLIC HEARING YET. SO THEY, WE CAN JUST TABLE THEM. SO WE'RE GONNA TABLE 'EM FOR THE RESOLUTION. YEP. WHICH IS WHAT I SAID ORIGINALLY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YEP. MICROPHONES AND MAPS AND EVERYTHING. A LITTLE DISORGANIZED HERE. OKAY. SO YOU'RE GONNA COME BACK ON THE SEVENTH, SO YOU'RE COMING BACK ANYWAYS. VERY GOOD. UM, AND AT THAT POINT WE WILL HAVE A RESOLUTION DRAFTED AND SO BOTH OF THOSE WILL BE LOOKED AT AT THAT TIME. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE AND WORKING WITH US. ABSOLUTELY. [00:40:03] OKAY, OUR NEXT, UM, SORRY, I'M LOOKING AT MY, UM, BRIAN BECKER'S NEXT. IS THAT RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. [3. Brian Becker – Requesting Site Plan Approval of a mixed-use development on vacant land, east side of Riley Boulevard (SBL #171.05-1-11)] OUR NEXT CASE IS BRIAN BECKER REQUESTING A SITE PLAN APPROVAL OF A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT ON VACANT LAND EAST SIDE OF RILEY BOULEVARD. HI, GOOD EVENING. APOLOGIZE. WE'VE HAD A PAPER SHUFFLE HERE. SO GO AHEAD. GOOD EVENING. ANTHONY PANDOLFI WITH CARINA WOOD DESIGN, UH, PROJECT ENGINEER HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, BRIAN BECKER, UM, PROPOSING A MIXED USE BUILDING AT, UH, REILLY BOULEVARD. AS YOU CAN SEE THE SITE PLAN UP ON THE SCREEN, UM, I BELIEVE THIS WAS IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING BOARD ALREADY FOR A REZONE, WHICH WAS APPROVED. UM, SO BASICALLY WE'RE HERE NOW FOR, UM, SITE PLAN REVIEW. UM, THE BUILDING'S GONNA BE A TWO STORY BUILDING CONSISTING OF A GYM ON THE FIRST FLOOR ALONG WITH SOME, UH, COMMERCIAL SPACE THAT IS, UH, TO BE DETERMINED. AND THEN, UM, FOUR APARTMENT UNITS UP ON THE SECOND FLOOR. UM, AND THEN PARKING, UM, ALONG RILEY BOULEVARD. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SITE PLAN. UM, PRETTY OTHER THAN THAT, PRETTY SIMPLE. UM, WE'VE PREPARED FULLY ENGINEERED PLANS, WE'VE SUBMITTED THEM TO THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. UM, WE'VE ALSO PREPARED, UM, THE NECESSARY SUBMITTALS TO ERIE COUNTY DSM FOR SEWER REVIEW, AS WELL AS ERIE COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY FOR THE BACKFILL REVIEW. UM, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, I CAN ANSWER THEM. UH, AND ALSO I JUST WANNA MENTION BRIAN BECKER IS HERE. IF THERE'S ANY OPERATIONAL QUESTIONS THAT THERE, THAT MIGHT COME UP. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, PLANNING DEPARTMENT. UH, QUICK QUESTION. IS IT FOUR APARTMENTS OR SIX? SIX, RIGHT? SIX. OKAY. SORRY. YES, SIX. NO, NO WORRIES. UM, JUST TO GIVE THE BOARD A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION, IF YOU GUYS RECALL THIS, UH, REZONING WAS BEFORE YOU GUYS, YOU GUYS GAVE A RECOMMENDATION, IT DID, WENT TO THE TOWN BOARD WHERE IT WAS APPROVED IN MARCH. UM, THAT GAVE A NEX. SO LIKE I SAID, LIKE THEY SAID, THEY'RE HERE FOR, UH, BEFORE YOU JUST FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL. UM, THEY DID HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE APARTMENTS, THEM BEING SIX APARTMENTS, BUT FROM THE REZONING THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE, THE TOWN BOARD, THERE'S NO ISSUE WITH THE LAYOUT. THE LAYOUT IS UP TO YOU GUYS. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID WANNA MENTION IS THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE MU ONE CODE, UH, IT DOES SAY THAT THERE SHOULD BE NO PARKING ON THE BACK. AND AS YOU GUYS SEE, THERE'S PARKING IN THE FRONT, THE TOWN BOARD ACTUALLY WAIVED THAT REQUIREMENT FOR HAVING PARKING IN THE BACK DUE TO THIS BEING ON A BEND. THAT PARKING, IF IT'S NOT IN THE FRONT, UH, WOULD BE MORE DANGEROUS. SO THE TOWN BOARD ACTUALLY WAIVED THAT REQUIREMENT. SO IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT WHY THE PARKING IS THE WAY THAT IS, THE TOWN BOARD DID TAKE IT UPON THEMSELVES DURING THE REZONING TO WAIVE THAT. SO THEY ARE COMPLIANT WITH THEIR CURRENT ME ONE. UH, THEY DON'T REQUIRE ANY VARIANCES, WHICH IS WHY THEY WERE BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD JUST LOOKING FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL. AND I BELIEVE THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. UH, IF I, I ASSUME ONE WAS FOR THE REZONE. IF WE HAVE TO DO ANOTHER ONE, I GUESS WE WOULD ASK YEP. FOR THE USE IF WE CAN DO IT AT THE NEXT MEETING. YEP. BUT NOW'S THE TIME TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT, LIKE THEY SAID, THE USES, THE LAYOUT OF THE APARTMENTS, THE LAYOUT OF THE PARKING, MAKING SURE THAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH IT. NOW'S THE TIME TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS. UM, BOARD MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS? MEMBER AUGIE? YES. UH, MY NAME'S AUGUST TRACY. IS THIS CURRENTLY THERE'S A, A LARGE GROUP OF APARTMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT ON RILEY BOULEVARD, JUST PROBABLY 50 YARDS AWAY FROM WHERE? THIS, WHERE YOU'RE TALKING. IS THAT PART OF THAT COMPLEX? NO, NO. THIS IS ENTIRELY SEPARATE. OKAY. MADAM CHAIR, COULD I, UH, SAY SOMETHING? HANG ON A SECOND. YOU HAVE TO IDENTIFY YOURSELF PLEASE. DE MRS. DE JARDEN. UM, DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN WE APPROVED THE APOLLO CONCRETE? YES. WHEN YOU WERE ON THE BOARD? THIS IS THAT SAME, THAT SAME PIECE OF PROPERTY. OH, OKAY. YEAH, APOLLO CONCRETE SOLD IT TO MR. ALRIGHT. YEAH, THAT'S BEEN VACANT FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS. CORRECT? THAT, THAT'S MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, THE REASON WHY I WAS SO STARTLED WHEN I PICKED THIS UP, I WAS RE WORKING OFF THE MEMO. THIS CASE IS NOT ON MY WORK MEMO [00:45:01] . YOU GUYS LEFT IT OFF, SO I'M LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE. I THOUGHT WE HIT FIVE CASES. IT'S NOT ON THE, UH, IT'S ON, NOT ON THE PBM MEMO. SO I DIDN'T HAVE MY, MY, UM, MY GUIDE TO GO WITH IT'S FINE. MEMBER FINLEY, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YES, GO AHEAD. NOW, YOU SAID THERE'S GOING TO BE SIX APARTMENTS. ARE WE LOOKING AT TWO BEDROOM APARTMENTS? THREE BEDROOM APARTMENTS IN THIS, LIKE, DO YOU KNOW, I'LL COPY ALL ONE, ALL ONE BEDROOM APARTMENTS. THERE'RE ALL ONE. AND THEN DOWN BELOW YOU SAID A GYM DOWN? YEAH, GYM AND OTHER FITNESS RELATED. UM, THAT'S GONNA BE MOST OF THE FIRST FLOOR. AND THEN THERE'S GONNA BE, UM, ANOTHER SECTION FOR COMMERCIAL SPACE, UM, TO BE DETERMINED AT A FOR FUTURE DATE. WILL THAT GYM BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC OR JUST TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE RENTING YOUR APARTMENTS? IT'S A MEMBERSHIP GYM, CORRECT? YEAH. IT FOR MEMBERS TO YOU. ANYONE CAN SIGN UP, BUT YEAH. TO TO BE A MEMBER. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. I I ORIGINALLY THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS ONLY GONNA BE FOUR APARTMENTS. WAS IT ALWAYS SIX? NO, IT WASN'T ALWAYS SIX. GOOD EVENING. RANDY FENTON. I WORKED WITH BRIAN BECKER ON THIS PROJECT. SURE. UH, WE STARTED WITH FOUR. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. AND, AND THEN, UM, DOING THE, THE NUMBERS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, WE, WE INCREASED IT TO SIX, UH, JUST SO WE CAN AFFORD TO ACTUALLY BUILD THIS BUILDING AND PUT IT UP. UM, AND THEN AGAIN, IF, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE LAYOUT OF, OF THE BUILDING AND THE PARKING LOT AND EVERYTHING, UM, THERE'S REALLY NOT ENOUGH ROOM FOR OUTSIDE ACTIVITIES, I GUESS IS THE BEST WAY TO PUT IT. IF WE HAD TWO BEDROOMS WITH, UM, POSSIBLY KIDS RUNNING AROUND AND STUFF, UM, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE FACILITIES THERE FOR KIDS EXCEPT US OBVIOUSLY INSIDE THE GYM, WHICH WOULDN'T BE A GOOD THING. BUT, SO SAME, SAME SQUARE FOOTAGE. WE HAVEN'T INCREASED THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, UM, LOWER OR UPPER TO DO THAT. UM, WHAT'S OUR NEXT STEP ON THIS ONE? UH, IF THIS BOARD DOESN'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, YOU CAN SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS PROJECT. I HAVE A QUESTION. ENGINEERING. GO AHEAD. UM, THE PICKLEBALL COURT SHOWN IS THAT, UH, PROPOSED AS PART OF THIS SITE OR LIKE A FUTURE PLAN? AS OF RIGHT NOW AS PROPOSED AS PART OF THIS SITE. OKAY. I, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, I HAVE ONE, JUST ONE MORE QUESTION. UM, MEMBER OGGIE, DON'T FORGET BOARD MEMBERS, EVERYBODY WITH YOUR MICS, I NEED TO IDENTIFY YOU SO THEY CAN PICK YOU UP AUGUST ACY. THANKS. UM, BEING A SENIOR CITIZEN, UH, WE'RE ELIGIBLE FOR WHAT THEY CALL THE SENIOR, UH, SILVER SNEAKERS PLAN, WHICH GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY, WELL, WE'RE LIMITED TO THE AMOUNT OF GYMS THAT WE COULD UTILIZE AND BY THIS IS, WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR A MEMBERSHIP. UM, YOU WORK, UH, IT'S YOU SILVER SNEAKERS GETS BILLED, UH, ON THE ATTENDANCE OF A PERSON. WILL, UH, ANY SILVER SNEAKERS OR SENIORS BE ELIGIBLE THEN TO UTILIZE? UH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO. I'M JUST ASKING ON BEHALF OF SENIORS. SO THIS IN, IN THE FUTURE. SO THIS, SO RANDY FENTON, UH, SO THIS IS A FRANCHISE, JIM. SO IT, IT GOES THROUGH A, A WHOLE FRANCHISE, UM, TO DO THIS. THEY DO NOT HAVE A SILVER SNEAKERS PROGRAM RIGHT AT THIS POINT. RIGHT. UM, WE DO HAVE, UM, THEY DO HAVE A YOUNG PERSON PROGRAM NOW, UM, THAT THEY'RE DEVELOPING AND WE'RE HOPING IN THE FUTURE THAT THIS FRANCHISE DEVELOPS, UM, A SILVER SNEAKERS LIKE PROGRAM. BUT BECAUSE IT IS A FRANCHISE, WE ARE NOT ALLOWED JUST TO BRING IN PEOPLE TO DO THEIR OWN THING OR TO BRING IN INSTRUCTORS IN THE F 45 PART OF THIS UH, FACILITY. ALRIGHT. AND AS FAR AS PICKLEBALL GOES, THE HAMBURG SENIOR CENTER IS NOT FAR AWAY. CURRENTLY, IT'S NOT FAR AWAY FROM WHERE YOU ARE. AND THEY ARE HEAVY DUTY IN THE PICKLEBALL. UM, THEY'RE GONNA BE MOVING PRETTY SOON TO ECC BECAUSE THE BUILDING IS BEING TAKEN OVER BY FRONTIER SCHOOL BOARD. UM, AND PICKLEBALL IS EXTREMELY POPULAR. UM, SO, UM, PARKING COULD BECOME A PROBLEM FOR YOU IF YOU GET A LOT OF THE PICKLEBALL DEVOTEES. UNDERSTOOD. [00:50:01] UNDERSTOOD. THE, THE GYM RUNS BY CLASSES. OKAY. SO IT WOULD BE VERY EASY TO SCHEDULE PICKLEBALL IN BETWEEN CLASSES. OH, OKAY. SO IT'LL BE INDOORS IN OKAY. ALRIGHT THEN YEAH, PICKLEBALL WILL BE OUTDOORS. ALL THE GYM STUFF IS INDOORS. INDOORS, BUT, BUT IT'S A SCHEDULED GYM SO THEY'RE BY THE CLASS. SO VERY EASY TO SCHEDULE PICKLEBALL, PLAY IN BETWEEN CLASSES. OKAY. THEN YOU'RE OKAY. YEP. AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, HOW MANY PARKING SPACES ARE ON THE SITE? I BELIEVE THERE'S 46 AS IT STANDS. THANK YOU. SO SINCE THE PLAN CAME IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING BOARD BEFORE THIS PLAN'S CHANGED, BECAUSE IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IT DIDN'T HAVE THE PICKLEBALL COURT BEFORE IT ALWAYS HAD THE PICKLEBALL COURT. IT DID MM-HMM . BECAUSE I DON'T REMEMBER TALKING ABOUT IT. AND THEN, UM, WASN'T THERE GONNA BE A RETAIL SPACE IN THIS BUILDING AS WELL? YEAH, THERE'S 1300 SQUARE FEET RETAIL THAT'S STAYING. I BELIEVE IT'D BE ON THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THAT? IT'S ON THE, THE BOTTOM PORTION OF THE RIGHT IN THE CORNER. YEAH. CLOSER TO THE PARKING. MM-HMM . OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS. AND DO WE HAVE ROOM ON OUR, UM, AGENDA? WHERE ARE WE WITH OUR SCHEDULE? AS OF RIGHT NOW? WE HAVE 2, 3, 1, 2, 3, 4. SO THE OTHER THING IS WE HAVE SOME POTENTIALS, BUT WE HAVE AN EXTRA WEEK BUILT IN. SO AS OF RIGHT NOW ON MY LIST, I HAVE FIVE ITEMS. ONE ON THE WORK SESSION, FOUR ON THE REGULAR. OKAY. SO ADD THEM TO THE, THAT'S FINE. OKAY. YES, WE CAN ADD, GO AHEAD AND ADD THEM TO THE MAY 7TH. WE'LL HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THAT TIME. AND SO WE'LL SEE YOU BACK ON MAY 7TH. GREAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. NOW BACK TO MY SCHEDULED MEMO, . WAIT A MINUTE. WHAT DID I DO? ? I'M LOOKING AT IT LIKE, DID I, AM I LOSING MY MIND? UM, WELL DON'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION . OKAY. UM, [4. Lardon Disposal Services – Requesting Site Plan Approval of a proposal to operate a C & D transfer facility on the west side of Woodlawn Avenue, north of 1st Street] SO OUR NEXT CASE, WHICH IS NUMBER FOUR ON THE UM, AGENDA, IS LARDEN DISPOSAL SERVICES REQUESTING A SITE PLAN APPROVAL OF A PROPOSED, UM, UM, OF A PROPOSAL TO OPERATE A C AND D TRANSFER FACILITY ON THE WEST SIDE OF WOODLAWN AVENUE NORTH OF FIRST STREET. SO, AND YOUNG LADY, IF YOU'D LIKE TO GRAB THAT MICROPHONE AND UM, TELL US YOUR STORY, WE'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO LISTEN. HI. UM, MY NAME IS CHARLOTTE CLARK, UH, WITH THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEERING AND GEOLOGY, UH, PRESENTING ON BEHALF OF LARDEN DISPOSAL SERVICES. UH, JOHN PALMER IS ALSO HERE AS WELL, WHO'S GONNA BE THE SITE OPERATOR TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. UH, BUT WE'RE HERE, UH, REQUESTING A SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR, LIKE YOU SAID, THE C AND D UH, TRANSFER FACILITY. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD SINCE YOU WERE HERE LAST? NO CHANGES TO OPERATIONAL SITE PLAN LAYOUT. UM, ANY OTHER DETAILS? WE, WE SENT FOLLOW UP DETAILS FOR OPERATIONAL DETAILS AS WELL. YES, YOU DID. UM, AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, CAN YOU, UM, ADD TO WHAT THE HOURS ARE GONNA BE AGAIN? I THINK WE WERE SAYING YES, THAT YOU'RE GONNA OPERATE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, SEVEN TO FIVE, SATURDAY, SEVEN TO ONE SATURDAY, SEVEN TO ONE. OKAY. AND, UM, WE DID GET COMMENTS FROM CAB ON THIS CASE, DID WE NOT? I BELIEVE WE DID, YES. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW IF LEONA WANTS TO COME UP AND SPEAK TO THAT, BUT LEONA, ARE YOU IN THE AUDIENCE? WOULD YOU LIKE TO? OKAY, WELL YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND, WELL, DID EVERYBODY HAVE A COPY? SO LEONA, WE HAVE A NEW PROCESS NOW AND UNFORTUNATELY YOU CAN'T TALK IN THE AUDIENCE 'CAUSE IT WON'T HEAR YOU. YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE MICROPHONE AND TALK INTO IT, PLEASE. HI, LEONA ROCKWOOD, UM, CONSERVATION ADVISORY BOARD AND HOW CAN I HELP YOU? I SENT OUT THE WRITTEN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE US A, A, A, A RECAP OF THAT WRITTEN INFORMATION? JUST A HIGHLIGHT IF YOU WOULD, FOR THE AUDIENCE. OKAY. UM, ONE OF OUR JOBS IS TO IDENTIFY POTENTIAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS THAT MAY HAPPEN. MAY IS THE KEY WORD. UM, AND WE IDENTIFIED SIX OF THEM. WAIT, SEVEN, SEVEN. POTENTIAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS, NUMBER ONE. UM, DO YOU WANT ME TO READ 'EM ALL? NO, I JUST A HIGHLIGHT BASICALLY, IF YOU WOULD. OKAY. UM, THE TRUCKS GOING IN, THAT'S ONE. THEY'RE UM, THEY'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO THE RESIDENCES, 400 FEET. UM, AND THERE'S [00:55:01] A LOT OF THEM, 48 PER DAY. UM, THEY'RE GOING TO RESULT IN A LOT OF NOISE AND ODORS. IT'S INEVITABLE. UM, AIR POLLUTION, THERE MAY BE AIR POLLUTION IN THE FORM OF DUST AND PARTICULATES AND EXHAUSTS. AND SINCE THERE ARE SO MANY TRUCKS, I'M ANTICIPATING THAT THERE MAY BE SOME WAITING AT THE TRUCKS, GET CLOSE TO THE FACILITY THAT'S SUPPOSED TO SEPARATE OUT AND, UM, TAKE THE WASTE FROM ONE TRUCK AND PUT IT INTO OTHER TRUCKS. SO THERE MAY BE A LINEUP. I KNOW THERE'S A LINEUP FREQUENTLY AT THE MODERN TRANSFER STATION ON JEFFREY BOYARD. UM, WE ARE CONCERNED THAT THERE MAY BE SOME CONTAMINATED LEACHATE FROM THE PROJECT SITE THAT COULD EVENTUALLY END UP IN BLAZEDALE CREEK, WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE PLACE AND THE ROAD. UM, CURRENTLY THERE'S A, UH, BOA STUDY GOING ON FOR WOODLAWN AND IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO HEAR WHAT THEIR RESULTS ARE AND WHAT THEY THINK. THIS IS APPROPRIATELY ZONED RIGHT NOW FOR, UM, IT'S, I BELIEVE IT'S M THREE. UM, WHERE WAS THAT? THE ACCESS ROAD AND THE PROPOSED TRANSFER FACILITY ARE LOCATED LESS THAN 1800 FEET FROM THE WOODLAWN STATE PARK AND THE DEC ENVIRONMENTAL REMEDIATION SITE, WHICH IS IN ALL LIKELIHOOD A CREATED WETLAND THAT DEC HAS DONE BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALLOWED WETLANDS TO BE FILLED ELSEWHERE WITHIN THE TOWN. UM, WE ARE, THERE MAY BE AN IMPACT ON WILDLIFE AND THAT IS CURRENTLY PROTECTED WITHIN THE PARK, BOTH THE PERMANENT RESIDENTS IN THE PARK, WILDLIFE AND THE MIGRATORY ONES. UM, UM, WE'RE ALSO CONCERNED THAT THE ACTUAL SORTING OF THE SOLID WASTE WITHIN THE BUILDING MAY CAUSE AIR POLLUTION BASED ON VIEWING THE MODERN FACILITY ON JEFFREY ROAD THAT HAS VERY LARGE OPEN AREAS YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE INSIDE AND WATCH THE GIGANTIC MACHINES MOVING. I GUESS THAT'S IT. OKAY. BUT, BUT YOU HAVE IT WRITTEN FORM IN CASE I MISSED ANYTHING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. YES. THANK YOU. UM, I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS GET A COPY OF THAT REPORT TO THE APPLICANT, CORRECT? YEP. WE GOT, I MEAN WE JUST GOT THIS FRIDAY, SO, UH, WE, I HAVE FORWARDED TO, TO THE APPLICANT, UH, AS OF TODAY. OKAY. AND JUST GOT IT. YEAH, . OKAY. SO YOU PROBABLY NEED SOME TIME TO ABSORB THAT. YES. OKAY. I WILL SAY GENERALLY, UM, JUST FOR THE LEACHATE COMMENT, WE'RE NOT ACCEPTING ANY FOOD WASTE SCRAPS. IT'S GONNA BE SANDY DRYWALL, CONCRETE. YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A LITTLE LEACHATE OKAY. PRODUCED. SO I THINK, UM, BASED ON THESE COMMENTS BECAUSE, UM, WHEN I READ THIS, MY CONCERN IS THE TRAFFIC CLOSE TO THE RESIDENTS. MM-HMM . AND THE CLOSENESS TO THE CREEK, THE NOISE LEVEL, AND THE CLOSENESS TO THE STATE PARK. SO I THINK THAT MAYBE BECAUSE YOU JUST GOT THIS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE THAT AND ADDRESS IT AT THE NEXT MEETING? WE COULD HAVE HER COME BACK ON THE SEVENTH. UH, WE COULD. SO REALLY QUICKLY, JUST FOR SOME CLARIFICATION. ONE, THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT THE BOA, THE BROWN FOLD OPPORTUNITY AREA. YES. UM, THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY BEARING ON THIS PROJECT WHATSOEVER. THE BOA IS GOING ON, IT'S PROPOSED, BUT WE ONLY GO OFF OF WHAT IS NOW AND IT IS ZONED M THREE. SO THOSE ARE THE ONLY REGULATIONS THAT WE'RE GOING OFF OF UNTIL THE BOA IS ADOPTED AND ACCEPTED. WE'RE NOT TAKING THE BOA UNDER CONSIDERATION. SO I JUST WANNA CLARIFY THAT FOR THIS BOARD, THE BOA IS NOT, WE'RE NOT CONSIDERING THAT ONE. WELL, IT SHOULD BE CLARIFIED FOR THE APPLICANT AS WELL. RIGHT. THANK YOU. UH, TWO, UH, THE APPLICANT WAS REFERRED TO THE WATERFRONT COMMITTEE MEETING. YOU ATTENDED IT. WERE YOU TABLED OR DID YOU GET A COASTAL CONSISTENCY RECOMMENDATION DURING THAT MEETING? DO YOU REMEMBER? NOTHING. IT WAS SORT OF RAN OUT OF TIME AND THEY CUT IT. CUT IT. OKAY. THEY SAID WE'LL MEET UP THE NEXT ONE. SO, UH, AT THE, THEY'RE STILL, THEY'RE STILL GONNA NEED A COASTAL CONSISTENCY RECOMMENDATION FROM THE LWRP COMMITTEE. SO THE BOARD SHOULD KEEP THAT IN MIND. AND, UH, THE COMMITTEE SHOULD ALSO KEEP IN MIND THAT WE ARE UNDER THE 30 DAY, UH, PERIOD FOR THE SECRET COORDINATED REVIEW. SO I THINK AT THIS TIME, UH, MADAM CHAIR, LIKE YOU SAID, WE SHOULD TABLE THEM TO THE SEVENTH. GIVE HER SOME TIME TO RESPOND TO THE CAB COMMENTS, SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT THIS BOARD HAS, AND GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO COME BACK TO A FULL BOARD. BY THAT TIME, THE SECRET COORDINATED REVIEW WILL ALSO BE OVER. AND THEN FOLLOWING THAT MEETING, I THINK THEY WOULD BE, UH, READY FOR A PUBLIC HEARING SHOULD [01:00:01] THIS BOARD FEEL COMFORTABLE. ALRIGHT. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US? NO, THAT SOUNDS GOOD. OKAY. ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH HAVING THIS TABLE TO THE SEVENTH? YES. OKAY. THEN I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT WE DO. BOARD MEMBERS DO HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS IN REGARDS TO THIS MOVE? NO. OKAY. NO. SO, UM, WE WILL SEE YOU ON THE SEVENTH. OKAY. YES. AND, UM, THEY'LL GIVE YOU A CHANCE, AND OF COURSE, IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, YOU CAN REACH OUT TO JOSH AND HE CAN GUIDE YOU ON THE REST OF IT. THANK YOU. OKAY. OF COURSE. THANK YOU. UM, JOSH, CAN YOU DO ME A FAVOR AND MAKE SURE THAT THIS GETS SENT TO THE, TO THE WHOLE BOARD? THE, THE CAT? YEAH. 'CAUSE I THINK IT ONLY GOT SENT TO LIKE FOUR. I I THOUGHT I DID, BUT I CAN'T. YEP. WITH THE ISSUES WITH THE, WITH THE, UH, EMAIL, IT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE. OKAY. UM, MOVING RIGHT ALONG. OUR [5. BJ Muirhead Company – Requesting Site Plan Approval of a proposal to construct a two (2) story office, training, sales, and warehouse building, two (2) rental storage buildings, five (5) private storage buildings, and other site improvements on a 10.4-acre parcel at Jeffrey Boulevard (SBL: 159.12-2-4)] FINAL CASE THIS EVENING, ACCORDING TO MY AGENDA, , UM, IS BJ MUIRHEAD COMPANY REQUESTING SITE PLAN APPROVAL OF A PROPOSAL TO CONSTRUCT A TWO STORY OFFICE, TRAINING, SALES AND WAREHOUSE BUILDING, TWO RENTAL STORAGE BUILDINGS, FIVE PRIVATE STORAGE BUILDINGS, AND OTHER SITE IMPROVEMENTS ON A 10.4 ACRE PARCEL ON JEFFREY AVENUE ON JEFFREY BOULEVARD. MY PART-TIME PLACE THAT I SPENT THE WEEKEND AT, YOU WEREN'T OUT THERE OTHERWISE I WOULD'VE WAIVED OR STOPPED IN AND HAD A CUP OF COFFEE. ONE OF THE TWO. UM, GO AHEAD, PLEASE. HI, MY NAME'S JAMIE ALLEN. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF BJ MUIRHEAD, UH, AS THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AND PROJECT, UH, MANAGER. I WILL BE ON SITE ONCE THE PROJECT GETS TO MOVE FORWARD. UM, WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO DO TONIGHT IS TO GET THIS PROJECT, UM, ALLOWED TO GO BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING. UH, WE PROVIDED THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT THE BOARD REQUESTED, UH, WITH REGARD TO HOW THE SITE WOULD BE HANDLED, HOW THE DIFFERENT PHASES OF THE PROJECT WOULD BE, UH, STAGED, THE AMOUNT OF SITE WORK THAT'S TO BE DONE, HOW THOSE DIFFERENT PHASES ARE TO BE HANDLED AS IT'S PROGRESSING, HOW THE SITE WOULD BE MAINTAINED. UH, THE PLACEMENT OF, UH, I'M SORRY, THE PLACEMENT OF SILT SOCK TEMPORARY FENCING, UH, PERMANENT, NOT PERMANENT FENCING, BUT TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION FENCING AROUND WHERE VEHICLES WOULD BE PARKED AND HOW THE SITE WOULD BE MAINTAINED FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT AND A TRAFFIC FLOW. I CAN GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROJECT AGAIN FROM START TO FINISH IF YOU'D LIKE. UH, WE MADE THE CHANGES AT THE BOARD REQUESTED FOR THE DIFFERENT PAGE NUMBERS TO, UH, REFERENCE THE DIFFERENT PHASES AND HOW THEY, UH, PROGRESSED THROUGH THE PROJECT. AND WE SUBMITTED THE FINDINGS OF THE, UM, CAB. WE MET WITH THEM, UH, PER YOUR REQUEST. I THINK WE HAD A PRETTY GOOD MEETING. EVERYTHING SEEMED TO BE, UH, MOVING ALONG. WE CAME TO AN AGREEMENT ON HOW WE CAN PROCEED THROUGH THE PROJECT AS IT PROGRESSES WITH THEIR INPUT AND THEIR HELP. UM, WE'RE ALL OF THE UNDERSTANDING WE CAN'T PROCEED TO ANY TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION WITHOUT A LANDSCAPE PLAN AND WITHOUT AN APPROVAL. SO, UH, GARDNER HAS COMMITTED TO HELPING US TO DEVELOP A PLAN THAT WORKS AND WE'VE COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH THEM TO FIND THE PROPER REFORESTATION. OKAY. SO WE'RE HOPING TO BE ABLE TO GET THIS TO GO TO AT LEAST PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. I'M GOING TO ADD A COUPLE OF THINGS, IF YOU DON'T MIND. SURE. UM, I KNOW THAT THIS APPLICANT WORKED EXTENSIVELY WITH CAB BASED ON THE EMAILS AND THE CORRESPONDENCE THAT I HAD RECEIVED FROM EVERYONE. UM, I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT, UM, THERE WAS A LOT OF DUE DILIGENCE ON THE APPLICANT'S PART. UM, THEY, I BELIEVE THEY WALKED THE SITE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. UM, THE SNOW FENCE WAS PUT UP THAT THE RE THE NEIGHBOR WAS MET WITH AND THERE WAS ADDITIONAL FENCING PUT UP. 'CAUSE I WAS OUT THERE MYSELF LOOKING AT IT. SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF, UM, WORK BY THIS APPLICANT TO MEET THE, UM, BASED ON WHAT THIS BOARD ASKED FOR, BASED ON WHAT CAB ASKED FOR. UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE RECEIVED, DID THE WHOLE BOARD GET COPIES OF THOSE CAB COMMENTS? I HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK. I THINK THE CAB ONLY SENT IT TO CERTAIN MEMBERS. OKAY. SO WE'RE GONNA LOOK FOR THOSE AND MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE WHOLE BOARD HAS THOSE COMMENTS FOR THE NEXT MEETING. YEP. AND, UM, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO OFFER FOR ME? FOR US? UH, THE ONLY, THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I WOULD ADD IS THAT, UH, LIKE THE APPLICANT SAID, THEY, UH, SUBMITTED A TON OF INFORMATION. UM, THAT INFORMATION IS IN SHAREPOINT. IT WAS SUBMITTED BEFORE THE DEADLINE. SO HOPEFULLY THE REST OF THE BOARD WHEN THEY'RE HERE HAS A CHANCE TO REVIEW THAT AND, AND PROVIDE THEIR COMMENT. UM, LIKE THE APPLICANT SAID THEY MET WITH THE CAB, UM, THERE WERE NO NEGATIVE IMPACTS FROM [01:05:01] THAT MEETING WITH THE CAB, I WOULD SAY. SO, UM, IF, IF THIS BOARD IS COMFORTABLE, UM, THE PLAINTIFF DEPARTMENT HAS NO, NO FURTHER COMMENT ON THIS PROJECT AND CAN MOVE IT ALONG, I WILL LIKE TO JUST PUT ON THE RECORD IF I COULD THAT, UM, IN OUR SHAREPOINT THERE'S A LETTER THAT WE ASKED FOR ABOUT THE WETLAND DELINEATION. CORRECT. AND, UM, THERE, IT CAME FROM LABEL BELLA. YEP. DATED APRIL 15TH. AND IT SAID LABEL BELLA DID NOT IDENTIFY ANY AREAS OF WETLAND WITHIN THE PROJECT SITE IS OUTLINED IN THESE MANUALS. UM, SO WE'RE GOOD TO GO ON THAT. CORRECT. THAT WAS CLARIFIED AND I WANTED THAT ON THE RECORD. YEP. AND, UM, WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO MY BOARD MEMBERS TO SEE IF THEY HAD ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. MAY I MEMBER FINLEY? I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. MAY I ADD ONE MORE THING THAT SAYS JAMES ALLEN AGAIN? WE DID PROVIDE THAT CAB LETTER AS PART OF OUR, UM, DOCUMENTATION. I, I, I KNOW. OH, OKAY. IT'S JUST, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL GOT IT. , I KNOW YOU PRESENTED IT. I, I SAW IT BECAUSE I'M THE CHAIR , BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THERE WAS A MIX UP ON WHERE IT GOT SENT. GOTCHA. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE FOR THE NEXT MEETING THAT WE ALL HAVE IT, IT'S PROBABLY IN OUR SHAREPOINT AS WELL. YEAH. OKAY. BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I WA I WORK UNDER A DIFFERENT STACK OF FILES. OKAY. UM, BUT YES, WE ARE WELL AWARE OF WHAT YOU DID WITH THE CAPTAIN. THAT'S WHY I SAID THAT. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT FOR THE NEXT MEETING, AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT EVERYBODY WHO'S NOT HERE TONIGHT, PLUS WHO'S HERE HAS EVERY BIT OF INFORMATION THAT YOU PROVIDED. YOU CERTAINLY PROVIDED EVERYTHING THAT WE ASKED FOR. OKAY. AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT. THANK YOU. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO CARRY THROUGH. ALRIGHT, MEMBER FINLEY. HI. UM, I JUST HAVE A REAL QUICK QUESTION HERE. JUST LOOKING AT A PLAN THAT'S SITTING IN FRONT OF ME, IT'S BROKEN UP INTO THREE PHASES, BUT PHASE TWO IS GONNA START BEFORE PHASE ONE ACCORDING TO THE DATES. IS THAT CORRECT? CAN I ASK WHAT PAGE YOU'RE WORKING WITH? PAGE FIVE. UM, I HAVE PAGE, PAGE SEVEN. PAGE SEVEN. OKAY. IT LOOKS LIKE THE STORAGE UNITS ARE GOING TO BE DONE FIRST, ACCORDING TO YOUR TIMEFRAME. AND THEN THE BUILDING, IF I'M CORRECT, THAT WOULD BE THE OFFICE BUILDING IS, YEAH. SO THE, I'M SORRY. SO THE, THE PHASES IN THE WAY THEY'RE DATED HERE, , IT'S NOT THAT THEY'RE CONFUSING, THEY'RE JUST DIFFICULT. SO PHASE ONE, THE TIMEFRAME FROM COMPLETION IS 2026 TO 2027. IT'S GOING TO START IMMEDIATELY, THIS ENTIRE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SITE THAT'S IN THAT, ON THIS PAGE SEVEN IN THAT GOLD BAR. UH, SQUARE. CAN YOU LOOK AT THIS PAGE? YES. ALL OF THAT SITE DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE DONE AT THE SAME TIME. THE, SO WHERE PHASE TWO FALLS, WHERE IT GOES FROM 2025 TO 2027, THE 2025 PORTION IS JUST THE SITE WORK. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. MEMBER ON, DO YOU HAVE THE SAME QUESTION I WAS GONNA ASK? SO YOU ANSWERED IT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. UM, ANYTHING ELSE? ENGINEERING, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO OFFER? UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. UH, OBVIOUSLY SHOULD THIS MOVE FORWARD, THERE WILL BE A DETAILED ENGINEERING REVIEW DONE ON THEIR FULLY ENGINEERED PLANS, INCLUDING THE BREAKDOWN BETWEEN PHASES, UH, TO BE SURE THAT THEY, THEY DON'T CREATE THEIR OWN ISSUES. UM, BUT THAT WILL HAPPEN, UH, SHOULD THE BOARD DECIDE TO APPROVE DOWN THE ROAD. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, JOSH, WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? SO EVEN THOUGH THERE'S ONLY THREE OF YOU, IF THIS BOARD FEELS COMFORTABLE, YOU COULD TABLE HIM FOR A PUBLIC HEARING JUST FOR EVERYONE'S RECOLLECTION RIGHT NOW, AS OF MAY 7TH. AND KEEP IN MIND WE HAVE AN EXTRA WEEK, SO THINGS MAY SHIFT, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, UM, WE HAVE, UH, STURDY BUILT SHEDS FROM, AT LEAST FROM TODAY, WE HAVE STURDY BUILT SHEDS. THE BENDERSON PARKING LOT PROJECT, LES DROUGHT CAN SPACE. BRIAN BECKER AND LARDEN HAVE BEEN TABLED TO THE SEVENTH. UH, AND FOUR OF THOSE HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS. UM, IF YOU CHOOSE TO, UH, TABLE 'EM TO THE SEVENTH, THEY WOULD BE THE FIFTH PUBLIC HEARING AND THE SEVENTH OVERALL REGULAR MEETING ITEM. WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND MOVE THAT TO THE SEVENTH. OKAY. BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA ADD ANYTHING ELSE TO THE AGENDA AT THIS POINT. OKAY. SO THE SEVENTH AGENDA IS CLOSED. SO THE SEVENTH AGENDA IS OFFICIALLY CLOSED. THE REGULAR MEETING IS CLOSED. BUT IF WE GET A WORK SESSION THAT WILL BE ADDED. CORRECT. OKAY. YES. BUT THE WORK, THE REGULAR MEETING IS, WE'RE NOT GONNA ADD ANYTHING ELSE TO THE GOTCHA. I, I WANT THE BOARD MEMBERS TO TALK TO ME BY THE END OF THE MEETING. SO WE WILL SEE YOU ON THE SEVENTH. AND, UM, I DON'T THINK THAT YOU OWE US ANY OTHER INFORMATION. WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING. SO WE'LL JUST START WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE SEVENTH. OKAY. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR US? NO, THANK YOU. OKAY, THEN WE'LL SEE YOU THEN. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, I THINK THAT CONCLUDES OUR MEETING, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. UNLESS [01:10:01] MY AGENDA , YOU'LL HEAR THE END OF IT. I LOVE HIM DEARLY. I REALLY DO. YOU'RE NOT ALONE. I WAS SEARCHING FOR THAT TOO. YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M GONNA SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THIS MEMO THOUGH. UM, WE MET DURING THE BREAK AND, UM, JOSH AND I AND, UM, THE, THE TOWN SUPERVISOR, THE DE THE TEMPORARY TOWN SUPERVISOR AND DREW. AND, UM, THIS MEMO IS MUCH BETTER AND IT'S SO MORE HELPFUL. I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT. IT MADE MY JOB A LOT EASIER AND IT, IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT BRIAN DIDN'T SHOW UP TO IT, BUT I, I'M GONNA WRITE IT OFF. I'M JOKING ABOUT IT BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH DETAIL ON THIS MEMO THAT IT, IT REALLY DOES MAKE MY JOB MUCH EASIER AND KUDOS TO YOU GUYS FOR DOING SUCH A GREAT JOB. THANK YOU. SO, YEAH, AND I WOULD, I FEEL THE SAME WAY. YEAH. APPRECIATE THAT. IT, IT, IT, IT'S GOT INFORMATION ON THERE THAT WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD AND THAT'S WHY THERE WASN'T ANY ROOM FOR THE ONE CASE. RIGHT. WE'LL LET GO. RIGHT. ALL I, I NEED A MOTION, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. I MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. MEMBER FINLEY MAKES A MOTION TO ADJOURN. IS THERE A SECOND? AND I SECOND IT. IT'S BEEN MOVED. AND SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. MEETING ADJOURNED. I TURN OFF THE MIC. MAKE. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.