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[Work Session meeting on August 4, 2025.]

[00:00:03]

SUCH AN ORDER. LET ME START WITH THE PLEDGE TO THE FLAG.

PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

ALL RIGHT. LOOKS LIKE WE'RE READY TO GO. I THINK I GOT IT.

YEAH. ROLL CALL. TAMMY. GOOD EVENING. I WILL SPEAK AS QUICKLY AS I CAN. SO, ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, THERE ARE TWO RESOLUTIONS RELATED TO THE COMMUNITY SENIOR CENTER.

WE HAD OUR BID OPENING RECENTLY, AND WE HAD SOME REALLY GREAT BIDS UNDER THE MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL AND PLUMBING CONTRACTS.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY BIDS UNDER THE GENERAL CONTRACT.

THE GENERAL CONTRACT COVERS THE BUILDING AND THE THE MAIN PORTION OF THE SITE WORK, AND IT'S EXTREMELY SIGNIFICANT TO THE PROJECT.

SO UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE OF THAT, WE'RE RECOMMENDING THE TOWN BOARD REJECT ALL BIDS.

WE HAVE SINCE THAT TIME WORKED WITH OUR ARCHITECT AND ENGINEER, CARMINA WOOD.

THEY HAVE SPOKEN TO SEVERAL CONTRACTORS AND BUILDING MANUFACTURERS ABOUT THE ISSUES BECAUSE WE HAD RECEIVED SEVERAL INQUIRIES.

WE HAD THEY HAD EXPRESSED A LOT OF INTEREST. THERE WERE EVEN SOME THAT HAD SAID THAT THEY WERE PUTTING A BID TOGETHER.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, SOMETHING HAPPENED IN THAT TIME WHERE THEY DID NOT SPEAKING WITH THEM.

THE BIGGEST THING SEEMED TO BE THE TIMELINE. THE CONTRACT WE HAD OUT HAD EVERYTHING BEING COMPLETED BY JUNE 30TH OF 2026.

AND BASED ON THE BUILDING VENDORS, THE CONCERN WAS THAT BECAUSE THE BUILDING IS THAT PRE-ENGINEERED POST-FRAME MANUFACTURED BUILDING, THAT BY THE TIME IT WOULD GET MANUFACTURED AND BROUGHT TO THE SITE, IT WOULD NOT HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO DO ALL THE REST OF THE WORK ASSOCIATED.

SO BASED ON SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS, I'VE SPOKEN TO OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT, OUR YOUTH REC SENIOR SERVICES.

THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE GET A MOVE IN BUILDING BY DECEMBER 1ST OF 2026.

AND THEN ALLOW THEM UNTIL THE SPRING. SO JUNE 1ST TO DO PUNCH LIST AND FINAL ITEMS AROUND THE SITE.

THIS INCLUDES GRASS GROWING IN AND MAYBE SOME STRIPING, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT DO NOT AFFECT THE OPENING OF THE BUILDING AND THE OPERATION AND TURNING IT INTO A A PUBLIC RUNNING FACILITY. WE'VE ALSO HAD CONVERSATION WITH OUR ARCHITECT ABOUT SORT OF A FANCIER ROOF FEATURE THAT WAS ALONG THE ROOFS. WE HAD ONE BUILDING MANUFACTURER THAT SAID THAT THAT WAS NOT REALLY SOMETHING THEY TYPICALLY DID, AND IT WOULD AFFECT BOTH THEIR COST, THEIR TIMELINES, AS WELL AS THEIR WARRANTY. SO THEY ENDED UP NOT BIDDING FOR THAT REASON.

SO WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR ARCHITECT TO JUST REMOVE THAT FEATURE BECAUSE IT WASN'T REALLY PRACTICAL TO THE BUILDING.

EVERYTHING ELSE WILL REMAIN THE SAME. AND THEN YOU HAVE A RESOLUTION ON TONIGHT TO PUT IT BACK OUT TO BID.

WE WANT TO GET IT ON THE STREET IMMEDIATELY SO THAT WE CAN OPEN THE BIDS BY THE END OF AUGUST AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT AT THAT POINT.

SO A ROOF IS BETTER FOR THE SNOW. TRUE, TRUE.

SO I KNOW THAT'S VERY QUICK. I WANTED TO JUST MAKE SURE EVERYONE WAS ON THE SAME PAGE.

LET YOU KNOW WHAT THE TWO RESOLUTIONS ARE ON THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT.

AND IF THERE'S TIME, I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS. BUT I KNOW YOU HAVE OTHER PEOPLE THAT NEED TO SPEAK.

YEAH. NO. OKAY, WELL. I'M GOOD, THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

JILL. SO I KNOW WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT THIS AT NAUSEAM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM WITH EVERYBODY THE TAYLOR ROAD RENTALS.

WE'VE HAD SOME REQUESTS RECENTLY. WE'VE ALLOWED FOOD TO BE BROUGHT IN.

LIKE, IF IT'S CATERED, IT HAS TO BE DROPPED OFF TO THE INDIVIDUAL'S HOME, AND THEY CAN BRING IT, THINGS LIKE THAT. WE'VE HAD A COUPLE PEOPLE REQUEST FOOD TRUCKS TO BE ABLE TO STAY THERE.

SO I WAS JUST INQUIRING IF THAT WAS SOMETHING, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THEY'D HAVE TO GET THE INSURANCE, THEY'D HAVE TO GET A HEALTH PERMIT, THINGS LIKE THAT.

I HAVE TALKED TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES. SOME OF THEM ALLOW ONES LIKE AN ICE CREAM TRUCK OR SOMETHING THAT HAS SOMETHING THAT'S NOT PREPARED AND THAT YOU KNOW, CAN BE STORED EVEN IF IT'S NOT UTILIZED AS OPPOSED TO ONES THAT PREPARE THE FOOD.

SO I JUST KIND OF WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION TODAY.

BUT THAT WAS ONE THING THAT DID COME UP THAT I WANTED TO BRING TO THE BOARD'S ATTENTION. THAT WASN'T WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT IN THE THE OTHER MEETING.

SO IT WAS, I BELIEVE, PRETTY MUCH THAT. I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANYTHING ELSE.

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RIGHT. IT WAS JUST THE VENDORS FOR TAYLOR ROAD.

I BELIEVE SO. YEP. SO THAT WAS IT. SO, AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT, BUT I DID WANT TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION.

THE ONE WAS AN ICE CREAM TRUCK. SO I'M HOPING THAT IF EVERYBODY IS IN FAVOR, WE CAN TELL THEM, YOU KNOW, THAT. THAT'S OKAY. AND IT'S AN ICE CREAM TRUCK THAT WE'VE DEALT WITH.

SO WE HAVE THE APPROPRIATE INSURANCE AND ALL THE PAPERWORK FOR THE THE YEAR.

SO I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT. I BELIEVE MOST OF THOSE FOOD TRUCKS HAVE INSURANCE AND THEY GOT THEIR, YOU KNOW, HEALTH PERMITS AND EVERYTHING. THEY DO? YES.

AND MY ONLY BIG CONCERN IS TWO THINGS. ONE, WE HAD AN ISSUE WITH ONE COMPANY THAT CHANGED THEIR NAME THAT WE HAD TO KEEP GOING BACK AND FORTH BECAUSE ALL THE DOCUMENTS FOR OUR INSURER AND OUR, AGENCY, EVANS, THAT WE DEAL WITH HAS TO BE IN THE SAME NAME.

SO WE HAD TO GO BACK AND FORTH WITH CHANGING NAMES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER ONE IS, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY'S UNCLE JOE HAS A FOOD TRUCK THAT THEY WANT TO BRING, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT. I DON'T MIND PEOPLE BRINGING THEM, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE ONES, LIKE I SAID, THAT WE KNOW AND THAT WE'VE DEALT WITH.

EVEN IF NOT, I JUST WOULD MAINTAIN THAT THEY'D HAVE TO GET EVERYTHING TO US AT LEAST TWO MONTHS AHEAD OF TIME, BECAUSE THEN WE HAVE TO INTERFACE WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AS WELL. AND WE NEED, YOU KNOW, PLENTY OF TIME TO BE ABLE TO GO BACK AND FORTH IN CASE THERE'S ISSUES.

BUT BUT AGAIN, IT WOULD BE DEPENDENT ON IF YOU WANTED THEM TO STAY ON PROPERTY OR NOT, BECAUSE THAT MIGHT OPEN UP ANOTHER ELEMENT TO IT.

WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO MAKE IT AS PART OF THE CONTRACT OR MAKE WORK WITH LEGAL EARLY ON AND HAVE A LIST OF THESE ARE VENDORS WHO HAVE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS JUST TO HELP RESIDENTS WHO MIGHT BE RENTING THE FACILITY, BUT ALSO TO GIVE VENDORS A VERY CLEAR IDEA OF HERE'S WHAT YOU GOT TO DO SO THAT THERE'S NO, LIKE, LAST MINUTE SCRAMBLE EIGHT WEEKS OUT FROM AN EVENT TRYING TO GET THAT TEMPLATE, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU MEAN.

WE HAVE A TEMPLATE THAT KEN'S OFFICE HAS GIVEN US.

THAT'S EVERY DOCUMENT THAT THEY HAVE. IT'S LIKE A DOCUMENT.

IS IT ON A WEBSITE? NO. WE USUALLY SEND OUT WHEN THEY INQUIRE ABOUT IT.

WE JUST FORWARD THEM A PACKET. I MEAN, IF SOMEBODY'S GOING TO RENT IT AND THEY SEE IT ON THE WEBSITE, THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, OH, I NEED TO DO THIS, THIS, THIS AND THIS. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. WE COULD EASILY HAVE THAT UP TOMORROW. THE ONLY OTHER THING WITH THAT IS WE DIDN'T WANT TO LIST ANYBODY BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE ANYBODY, YOU KNOW, PREFERENCE OVER ANYONE ELSE. I'M JUST THINKING IF A VENDOR GOES TO THE LENGTHS OF GETTING THE APPROVALS, THEN THEY COULD ADVERTISE THEMSELVES AS WE ARE PRE-APPROVED BY THE TOWN OF HAMBURG.

ABSOLUTELY. AND YEAH, MANY OF THESE MAY BE LOCAL COMPANIES.

RIGHT. AND SO I WOULD JUST CAUTION THAT IT'S WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO PUBLISH THE LIST OF REQUIREMENTS.

INSURANCE FOR THE TEMPLATE REALLY AND SOME THE THE APPLICATION MATERIALS.

THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. I WOULDN'T GO AS SO FAR AS TO LIST OF PREFERRED BECAUSE WHEN WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE, MOST MUNICIPALITIES THEY SHOULD FOLLOW A VETTING PROCESS AKIN TO AN RFP.

SO I WOULDN'T BE INCLINED NECESSARILY TO GO THAT FAR, ALTHOUGH CERTAINLY YOU KNOW, WHEN WHEN THEY'RE DEALING WITH AND LIAISONING WITH THE REC DEPARTMENT, THEY CERTAINLY CAN GET THE NAMES OF SOME VENDORS OR JUST GENERAL INFORMATION ON HOW TO OBTAIN APPROVALS, THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT I WOULD I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY LIST IT AS A PREFERRED VENDOR. YEAH. NOT PREFERRED. I'M JUST THINKING IF SOMEWHERE IT WAS ACCESSIBLE THAT PEOPLE COULD VIEW WHO'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED, WHO'S ALREADY COMPLETED THE PROCESS.

LIKE WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT THESE ARE ONES YOU SHOULD USE.

WE'RE JUST SAYING THEY'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE OTHER WAY. WE COULD POTENTIALLY DO THIS. JUST LIST VENDORS THAT WE'VE UTILIZED FOR PAST EVENTS? WELL, YOU MAY WANT TO BE QUALIFIED VENDORS. THERE YOU GO.

YEAH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I JUST I WOULD LIKE IT IF YOU HAD THE CRITERIA CLEARLY STATED SO THAT BUSINESSES COULD BE PROACTIVE.

YEP. GET THE APPROVAL BEFORE PEOPLE RENT. AND THAT WAY IT MAKES IT A LITTLE EASIER FOR ALL INVOLVED.

AND THEN IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO TAKE IT ON THEMSELVES AND THEY REALLY WANT, YOU KNOW, COUSIN JOE'S TO DO THE FOOD, THAT'S GREAT. BUT HERE'S HERE'S THE THING. WHAT WE EXPECT OF EVERYBODY TO DO.

AND YEAH, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY HAVE THAT TOMORROW.

SO JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE OKAY WITH THE FOOD TRUCKS STAYING ON THE PROPERTY.

AND THEN KEN AND I WILL TALK IF THERE'S ANY EXTRA ELEMENT THAT THEY NEED INSURANCE WISE.

SO IF I MAY JUST BE CAREFUL WITH HOW YOU YOU FRAME IT IS I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO GET CONFUSED BETWEEN THE PEDDLERS AND SOLICITOR PERMITS THAT WE THAT WE TAKE IN.

TAKEN. THAT'S THAT INVOLVES AN $87 FEE TO BE FINGERPRINTED AND, YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S JUST JUST IF YOU NEED MY HELP, MY OFFICE FOR ANYTHING, SO WE CAN AT LEAST MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE SEPARATE OR.

YEAH, WE WOULD PUT IT UNDER THE TAYLOR ROAD RENTAL PACKET.

WE'D JUST PROBABLY ADD IT IN WITH A PACKET THAT SOMEBODY WOULD CLICK ON AND THEN JUST SAY, IF YOU WANT TO HIRE SOMEBODY, YEAH, JUST DO YOUR VENDOR INSURANCE. DON'T WANT ANY CONFUSION THAT NOW YOU'VE BEEN APPROVED BY THE TOWN TO BE A VENDOR FOR THESE EVENTS.

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AND NOW YOU CAN GO SELL YOUR WARES ON THE STREETS.

THAT'S A SEPARATE PERMITTING PROCESS. CORRECT? RIGHT. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S SOME SIMILARITIES.

SO WE MAY BE ABLE TO HAVE THE WE MAY HAVE THE WE'LL HAVE CREATED ALREADY.

POSSIBLY. YEAH. IF YOU NEED HELP WITH ANYTHING. SURE.

ABSOLUTELY. HAPPY TO. ONE OTHER JUST RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO ON THE SIDE OF MORE TIME.

THE LESS TIME AS YOU KNOW, IT TAKES A LOT WHILE AND SOMETIMES IF THEY DON'T SUBMIT SUFFICIENT, WE HAVE TO GO AROUND IN CIRCLES A FEW TIMES. SO I WOULD SAY THAT YOU'D BE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THE SOONER THE BETTER. LIKE 30. WE'VE TALKED I DON'T KNOW THAT MONTHS, NOT WEEKS, MONTHS, MONTHS, MONTHS. NOT WEEKS OR MONTHS. NOT WEEKS.

WELL, THAT'S WHY I SAID TWO MONTHS. BECAUSE THE ONE THAT YOU AND I, WE WERE RIGHT UP TILL THE DAY OF. AND THAT WAS 30 DAYS. SO I FEEL LIKE ADDING THAT EXTRA MONTH MIGHT BE A GOOD BUFFER. AND I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE BECAUSE SOMETIMES THEY BOOK IT 13 MONTHS AHEAD, SO THERE'S NO REASON THEY CAN'T. MR. FARRELL, I WOULD JUST ASK, LIKE IN THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE A LOT OF THESE MATTERS YOU DISCUSSED ARE THE PURVIEW OF THE BOARD.

AND SOMETIMES YOU INTERJECT, AND WE HAVE A JOB TO DO AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL AND YOU AS AN ATTORNEY.

WE'VE ASKED FOR INFORMATION. ACTUALLY, THIS IS AN INFORMATIONAL THING. AND SHE MENTIONED ABOUT THE LEGAL PROCESS AND AND WHAT LEGAL MIGHT HAVE TO DO.

SO HE HAS ALL THE RIGHT IN THE WORLD TO INTERVENE.

THANK YOU. YOU WANT TO COVER THE HILBERT COLLEGE LEASE FOR THE WOMEN'S HOCKEY? SURE. IS THAT ONE? DO WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT IN THAT PROCESS? HILBERT OR ARE WE DISCUSSING THAT AFTER THE MEETING THAT WAS SIGNED? IT'S THE PREROGATIVE OF THE BOARD TO TAKE IT UP IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, BECAUSE IT HAS TO DO WITH THE LEASE OF REAL PROPERTY, BUT THAT IS ON THE AGENDA AS THE. COMMUNICATION WAS AGAIN MADE WITH AND A PROPOSAL IS SUBMITTED TO HILBERT COLLEGE.

THEY RESPONDED TO THAT AND WE DISCUSSED THAT AT A PRIOR MEETING.

SO THAT WAS THAT DOCUMENT WAS SORRY. THE PROPOSAL WAS COMMUNICATED TO HILBERT COLLEGE, BUT WE SHOULD DISCUSS THAT BECAUSE THEY HAD A RESPONSE TO IT. SO THAT COULD BE TAKEN UP IN OPEN SESSION, OR IF THE BOARD CONSIDERS IT APPROPRIATE, IT IS A SUBJECT MATTER THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION AS A LEASE OF REAL PROPERTY.

OKAY. I GUESS I'LL DO IT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

I WOULD PREFER TO DISCUSS IT IN THE OPEN. THERE'S NOT A PROPER MOTION TO PUT THIS MATTER IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

WELL, IT'S IT'S WAS LISTED ON THE AGENDA AS EXECUTIVE SESSION MATTER FOR AFTER THE REGULAR RESOLUTIONS AND OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT.

SO AGAIN, THAT'S THE PREROGATIVE OF THE BOARD TO VOTE IF IT WANTS TO ENTER AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

SO WE WOULD DO IF WE CHOSE TO WE WOULD ENTER EXECUTIVE SESSION WITH THE PROPER VERBIAGE AT THE END OF THE MEETING.

SO THAT IS A DECISION WE CAN EVEN MAKE AT THE END OF THE MEETING.

IT'S ALSO THE RESEARCH I'VE DONE IS THAT VOTES AND I PUT THIS IN WRITING PREVIOUSLY, BUT VOTES SHOULD BE DONE IN PUBLIC UNDER THE OPEN MEETING LAWS THAT WE WOULD BE DOING ON THE FLOOR HERE. I HADN'T FINISHED WHAT I WAS SAYING.

THE OTHER THING I WOULD ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO DO, AND WE HAVE THE MEETING.

I'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH ON THIS. WE READ I'VE GOTTEN COMPLAINTS FROM PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC HOW LONG OUR MEETINGS GO AND WE READ AS IF WE'RE IN THIRD GRADE.

SOMETIMES A WHOLE RESOLUTION THAT MIGHT BE THREE PAGES IN LENGTH.

UNDER NEW YORK LAW, THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT UNDER TOWN LAW OR PUBLIC OFFICERS LAW THAT RESOLUTIONS BE READ ALOUD BEFORE A VOTE.

WHAT THE BEST PRACTICES ARE AND OTHER ENTITIES.

SECTION 103 REQUIRES THAT PROPOSED RESOLUTIONS, LAWS OR POLICIES SCHEDULED TO BE DISCUSSED MUST BE MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AT LEAST 24 HOURS IN ADVANCE, EITHER ONLINE, WHICH WE DO, OR IN PERSON.

AND WHAT WE HAVE A HABIT OF DOING IS WE READ ALL THESE THINGS WITH A LOT OF LEGALESE, BUT WHAT THE BEST PRACTICES ARE IS TO GIVE A QUICK SUMMARY.

SO I FEEL SOMETIMES SOMEONE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE AS IF WE'RE IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WE'LL READ A THOUSAND WORDS.

AND IF THE PUBLIC WANTS TO COMMENT, THEY CAN, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS BOARD HAS DONE THAT, BUT BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO MAKE THE MEETINGS MORE EFFICIENT TO READ THE SUMMARY.

LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE COMMON PRACTICE IN MANY BOARDS IS TO READ THE RESOLUTIONS TITLE OR CAPTION.

A BRIEF SUMMARY AND THAT'S IT. SO FOR EXAMPLE, SUPERVISOR THE NEXT RESOLUTION IS 2542, APPROVING THE PURCHASE OF HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT EQUIPMENT AS DETAILED IN THE RESOLUTION AND POST IT ONLINE PERIOD END.

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AND SO I WOULD ASK MY COLLEAGUES GOING FORWARD WITH OUR MEETINGS THAT WE WOULD ENGAGE IN THAT BECAUSE IT'S MORE EFFICIENT.

AND IF ANYONE WANTS TO COMMENT, THIS STUFF IS ONLINE AND WE CAN ENGAGE IN MORE SUBSTANTIVE DISCUSSIONS RATHER THAN RUDIMENTARY READINGS OF THINGS THAT ARE ANTIQUATED, AND WE COULD DO BUSINESS MORE EFFICIENTLY.

SO I CHALLENGE MY BOARD MEMBERS TODAY TO MAKE THIS BOARD MEETING MORE EFFICIENT.

I DON'T THINK THAT HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE WORK SESSION, BUT YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT? YOU KNOW, WE CAN CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION. BUT I WANTED TO BRING IT UP BECAUSE WE ARE HAVING PEOPLE START TO SIGN UP AGAIN FOR NEXT YEAR.

SO I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

THANK YOU. OKAY. DON'T WANT THE WORK SESSION.

NO. YOU STILL HAVE ONE MORE? WORK? YEAH. DAVE BURKE.

YES. GOOD EVENING. SUPERVISOR AND MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD, SEAN HOPKINS, ON BEHALF OF DATA DEVELOPMENT.

GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, CHAIR OF DAVE BURKE.

WE'RE HERE THIS EVENING. WE'RE ASKING THE TOWN BOARD TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION CONSENTING TO WHAT'S KNOWN AS A WATER WORKS CORPORATION.

THIS IS IN CONNECTION WITH THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BRIARCLIFF TOWNHOME PROJECT.

THE ERIE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT HAS RECENTLY CHANGED SOME OF ITS REQUIREMENTS, AND AS PART OF THEIR REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CREATION OF THE SUBDIVISION.

KEEP IN MIND THESE ARE OWNER OCCUPIED UNITS VERSUS RENTAL UNITS.

WE HAVE TO CREATE A WATER WORKS CORPORATION BECAUSE THE INFRASTRUCTURE ON SITE, INCLUDING THE WATER LINE, IS PRIVATE. WE WILL BE FORMING AN ASSOCIATION.

THE ASSOCIATION WILL ULTIMATELY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE OWNERSHIP AND MAINTENANCE OF THAT ROADWAY.

THE REASON THAT ERIE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT TELLS ME THIS IS REQUIRED IS IN THE UNLIKELY, IN MY OPINION, VERY, VERY UNLIKELY EVENT THAT THE ASSOCIATION NO LONGER EXISTS, WHICH, KEEP IN MIND, IT HAS TO BE THERE'S BUDGETS THAT ARE APPROVED, ALL FILED WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE AND THAT UNLIKELY EVENT.

I'M UNAWARE OF THAT EVER OCCURRING. THEN THE TOWN WOULD HAVE TO STEP IN AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT.

NOW, KEEP IN MIND, BY WAY OF COMPARISON, IF THIS WAS A PUBLIC ROAD, YOU WOULD DO THAT FROM DAY ONE.

AND AS I INDICATED, I'M UNAWARE OF ANY SITUATION IN WHICH AN ASSOCIATION OWNS A PRIVATE ROADWAY IN WESTERN NEW YORK OR ANYWHERE IN NEW YORK STATE, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT NO LONGER EXISTS. AND YOU HAVE A ROAD THAT NO ONE CAN MAINTAIN.

SO IT'S A RELATIVELY STRAIGHTFORWARD MATTER. BUT I WANTED TO DISCUSS IT WITH YOU, AND WE'RE HOPING YOU CAN ADOPT THAT RESOLUTION, BECAUSE THAT IS THE LAST REMAINING TOPIC PRIOR TO FILING A MAP COVER, WHICH HAS PREVIOUSLY BEEN REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE PLANNING BOARD AND HAS BEEN SIGNED AND IS READY FOR FILING AT THE ERIE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE. I THINK WE WERE JUST GIVEN THAT INFORMATION.

I DON'T THINK WE'VE HAD TIME TO REALLY RESEARCH THAT, AND OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT HAS.

JOSH, HAVE YOU ANY CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT AT ALL? NO. IS THERE ANY WILL YOU GUYS MEET AGAIN BEFORE SEPTEMBER? SEPTEMBER 8TH IS OUR NEXT MEETING. THAT'S GOING TO BE THE.

IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT. BUT THE PROBLEM IS IT'S GOING TO DELAY THE WHOLE PROJECT FOR A MONTH. THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY THAT WE COULD GET IT ON AN AGENDA.

OKAY, SEAN, IS THERE SOME IMPENDING DEADLINE WHICH IS THE NEXT TIME EVENT ON YOUR ON YOUR PROJECT DEVELOPMENT? YEAH, THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN AND WE'RE READY TO SELL LOTS. AND THAT'S THE LAST APPROVAL THAT'S REQUIRED.

IT IS, IT IS. WE HAVE TO GET THAT. AND THEN WE HAVE TO GO LITERALLY FILE THE MAP AGAIN.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE WAS A LEGAL QUESTION ASKED, WHAT DID YOU SAY I.

TOWN ATTORNEY HAD CHIMED IN AND YOU WERE ADDRESSING THE BOARD.

AND I THINK OUR ATTORNEYS TO GIVE US THE ADVICE AND COUNSEL.

WOULD THE TOWN BOARD BE WILLING TO CONSIDER THAT DOING IT SUBJECT TO REVIEW AND APPROVAL BY THE TOWN ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, MEANING THAT WAY YOU KEEP THAT ABILITY TO HAVE INPUT ON IT WITH YOUR DEPARTMENTS AND EXPERTS. GIVEN THAT WE JUST RECEIVED THAT TODAY, I.

I HAVE DIFFICULTY HANDING IT OVER WITHOUT AT LEAST HAVING EYES ON IT AND KNOWING WHAT EXACTLY WHAT AUTHORITY I'M HANDING OVER TO SOMEBODY ELSE, OR WHAT I'M EXPECTING OF THE DEVELOPER.

OKAY. YEAH, BECAUSE MOST HOAS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THEIR DRIVEWAYS, MAINTAINING THE FIRE HYDRANTS AND AND, YOU KNOW, SO THEN COULD WE DO THIS? WOULD YOU BE COMFORTABLE REFERRING IT TO THOSE DEPARTMENTS FOR REVIEW AND INPUT.

AND HOPEFULLY WE COME BACK AT THAT NEXT MEETING AFTER LABOR DAY AND BE IN A POSITION TO FINALIZE THIS.

YEAH, SURE. WE COULD DO THAT. WHICH PROJECT IS THIS EXACTLY FOR THE TOWNHOUSES.

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IT'S FOR THE. YEAH, THAT WE HAVEN'T BROKE GROUND. RIGHT.

WHICH ARE FOR SALE. AND THOSE ARE GUARANTEED TO BE OWNER OCCUPIED, NOT RENTAL OCCUPIED.

WELL, KEEP IN MIND, IF SOMEONE BUYS A UNIT, WE CAN'T STOP THEM FROM RENTING IT FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE. BUT YES, THEY ARE FOR SALE UNITS, JUST LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. AND THAT'S WHY THERE'S INDIVIDUAL LOTS.

WHAT'S TRIGGERING THIS? YOU LITERALLY WILL OWN YOUR UNIT IN THAT LITTLE LOT AROUND IT.

OKAY. SO YEAH, AND I KNOW YOU JUST DID GET THE INFORMATION.

SO I'M NOT IN A POSITION TO REALLY ARGUE WITH WANTING SOME ADDITIONAL TIME. BUT IF WE COULD JUST REVIEW IT, REFER IT TO THE TOWN DEPARTMENTS, AND THEN HOPEFULLY WE COME BACK AT THAT MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 8TH. AND YOU SAID IT WENT THROUGH THE PLANNING BOARD. NO, NO.

OH YEAH. THE PROJECT'S GONE THROUGH THE PLANNING BOARD. THE PROJECT. OKAY. BUT NOT BUT NOT THIS, NOT ON THESE DOCUMENTS. NO, NO, I BELIEVE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THIS HAS COME UP IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG.

OKAY. IT'S COMING UP IN EVERY MUNICIPALITY IN WEST NEW YORK NOWADAYS.

SO IF WE COULD JUST MAKE THAT REFERRAL, THEN I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH THE TOWN DEPARTMENTS AND WE'LL COME BACK AT THAT NEXT MEETING, OKAY? OKAY.

WE CAN DO THAT. HAVE A GREAT EVENING. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, MR. HOPKINS. OKAY, SO THAT'S THE END OF THE WORK SESSION.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.