Aug 04, 2025 8-4-2025 TB Meeting

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25 YEARS? AND WE'RE GOING TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. DID YOU ADJOURN THE WORK SESSION? YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THE ROLL CALL. SUPERVISOR. RYBCZYNSKI.

PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER BUGALSKI. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. COMERFORD. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. FARRELL. LORENZ. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. KOZUB. HERE WE HAVE A QUORUM. ALL ARE PRESENT. OKAY. NOW, PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF THE FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OKAY. READY? YEAH. MINUTES OF PREVIOUS

[3. Minutes of Previous Meeting]

NOVEMBER. SO MOVED SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? FAVOR. AYE. ALRIGHT. PROVED ALRIGHT. WE'VE PUBLIC

[4.1. Public Hearing Proposed Local Law #4, 2025]

MOTION. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. JUST AS A WAY. I TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE. AND THANK YOU, EVERYONE FOR COMING TO THE MEETING. I'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH ON BASICALLY HOW OUR MEETINGS ARE CONDUCTED BECAUSE I GET SOME CITIZENS SAY. SOME CITIZENS SAY THAT WE TAKE A LONG TIME AND WE READ ALL, EVERY SINGLE WORD HERE. FOR EXAMPLE, RESOLUTION 4.4 IS THREE PAGES. AND THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS UNDER NEW YORK LAW ARE THAT A SUMMARY? JUST BE READ OF EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE VOTING ON. AND I SEE SOME PEOPLE NODDING THEIR HEADS AND I, I GET THIS FROM A LOT OF CITIZENS. SO I, YOU KNOW, AS AN ATTORNEY, I DID SOME SOME RESEARCH AND I'VE BEEN SINCE I'VE BEEN ELECTED TO THE BOARD, I'VE BEEN ASKING MY COLLEAGUES TO TRY TO BE MORE EFFICIENT WITH HOW WE DO IT. I DO WANT TO HEAR FROM WHAT WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY, BUT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE THAT AT LEAST IT'S PUBLISHED ONLINE OR 24 HOURS BEFORE. SO CITIZENS CAN CAN ACTUALLY HAVE SOME INPUT ON IT. BUT I WOULD I WOULD MAKE A MOTION FOR TODAY'S MEETING AND, AND GOING FORWARD THAT WE OPERATE CONSISTENT WITH OTHER BOARDS IN NEW YORK STATE THAT WE JUST AND I'D BE HAPPY TO VOLUNTEER TO READ THE SUMMARIES OF THESE RESOLUTIONS. OR PERHAPS MR. RYBCZYNSKI COULD DO IT, BUT RATHER THAN READ SOMETIMES PRO FORMA A THOUSAND WORDS, THAT WE'D BE MORE EFFICIENT. AND WE FOCUS ON. AND I SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE NODDING ON THEIR HEADS. SO I'M MAKING A MOTION GOING FORWARD, TODAY AND FORWARD. YES. EVEN ON THE PUBLIC HEARING. YES. WE WE'RE REQUIRED BY LAW TO READ

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[4.2. Public Hearing Proposed Local Law #5, 2025]

SINCE YOU'VE INVITED ME. I DO HAVE A COMMENT THOUGH. I JUST DID SOME QUICK RESEARCH AND I LOOKED IT UP. WE DO NOT HAVE TO READ THE ENTIRE TEXT FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. IT'S SECTION 264 AND SECTIONS 130 OF TOWN LAW. A PUBLIC HEARING NOTICES MUST BE PUBLISHED IN THE OFFICIAL NEWSPAPER AND OR POSTED PUBLICLY, AND OTHERS DEPENDING ON THE SUBJECT. NOTICE TYPICALLY INCLUDES THE TIME, DATE, AND LOCATION, THE SUBJECT MATTER, SUCH AS THE ZONING CHANGE OR LOCAL LAW, AND WHERE THE DOCUMENTS MAY BE REVIEWED. THERE IS NO STATEWIDE LAW REQUIRING FULL NOTICE TO BE READ INTO THE RECORD AT THE HEARING. THE BEST PRACTICE RECOMMENDED BY NEW YORK STATE IS TO HAVE THE CLERK OR CHAIR SUMMARIZE THE HEARING TOPIC AND NOTE FOR THE RECORD, THE PROPER LEGAL NOTICE WAS PUBLISHED. SO THAT IS THE BEST PRACTICE. AND I CITE TOWN LAW SECTION 264 AND SECTION 130 NOW. SO GOING FORWARD I WOULD, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO READ THE WHOLE THING, THAT'S TOTALLY UP TO THEM. I'M GOING TO SUMMARIZE, BUT I THINK SUMMARIZING IS A MORE EFFICIENT WAY TO DO IT. AND THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE STATUTE IN NEW YORK STATE. THANK YOU, MR. BEDUSCHI. THANK YOU. I WOULD SAY THAT OUR TOWN, OUR TOWN CLERK, IS DOING A MARVELOUS

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YOU HAVE TO SEE MR. RYBCZYNSKI, WHO WILL BE HAPPY TO TAKE CARE OF YOU AS HE DID AS HE DID ME THIS AFTERNOON. THANK YOU. BRAD, YOU'RE WELCOME. AND I WANT TO SAY BE CAREFUL WHAT BROWSER YOU USE, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN PULLING WHAT'S LEFT OF MY HAIR OUT, TRYING TO TRYING TO GET TO THE AGENDAS ON DUCKDUCKGO. AND IT DOESN'T WORK. YOU HAVE TO USE GOOGLE CHROME OR YOU DON'T GET SO NO SITUATION RESOLVED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS, FOLKS. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? NOPE. OKAY, I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR?

[4.3. Public Hearing Proposed Local Law #7, 2025]

PEOPLE TYPICALLY GO HOME AT 9 P.M. AND THAT'S WHEN THE PROBLEMS START. THAT'S WHEN PEOPLE HAVE PARTIES DOWN THERE AND BLAST MUSIC, DO ALL KINDS OF STUFF. YOU FIND NEEDLES, YOU FIND GLASS BOTTLES. THE POLICE USED TO GO DOWN THERE AND SHINE THEIR SPOTLIGHTS ON ME WHEN I WAS 12 YEARS OLD BY MYSELF, YOU KNOW, WITH MY DAD'S BEER. BUT NOW IT'S LIKE YOU GO DOWN THERE AND THERE'S GROUPS OF PEOPLE HAVING BONFIRES AND THERE'S DOG EVERYWHERE. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST LIKE. AND YOU DON'T SEE IT, YOU KNOW, A HAMBURGER COP IN SIGHT. I'VE CALLED THEM MULTIPLE TIMES, LIKE, MY MOM HAS PARKINSON'S AND IS DYING IN A WINDOW. AND WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO THIS STUFF AT 2 A.M. AND WE CALLED THE POLICE. NOBODY COMES. SO I GO DOWN THERE, AND THAT'S NOT A GOOD, YOU KNOW, THING TO HAVE GOING ON. YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE GOING DOWN THERE FIXING THEIR OWN PROBLEMS BECAUSE THAT'S STARTING TO HAPPEN. THE SAME PROBLEMS AT WOODLAWN BEACH THAT HAPPENED ARE STARTING TO COME DOWN TO HAMBURG, AND PEOPLE ARE IGNORING IT. AND $150 FINE IS CHEAP. LIKE LAST I CHECKED, IT'S 2025 AND $150 FINE IS VERY, VERY CHEAP. NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO LIKE, IT NEEDS TO BE 300 BUCKS. SOMEONE NEEDS TO GET TOWED. IT'S GETTING RIDICULOUS.

WHAT WAS YOUR. I SAW VERMONT PLATES TODAY PARKED DOWN THERE. NO STICKER ON IT. A BUNCH OF

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I ALSO SUGGESTED THAT AND I SPOKE TO THE POLICE ABOUT THIS AS WELL. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THAT'S A TRESPASS. SO UNDER OUR LOCAL LAW, BUT ALSO UNDER NEW YORK LAW, THEY COULD BE CHARGED NOW, PROBABLY NOT A CRIMINAL TRESPASS UNLESS THEY HAD AN INTENT. IF THEY HAD AN INTENT AND THEY'RE VIOLATING SOME OTHER STATUTE, THEN YOU COULD CHARGE THEM WITH A CRIMINAL TRESPASS IF THEY'RE ENGAGING IN. MAYBE IF IT WAS MAYBE UNDERAGE DRINKING. IT'S NOT THE BIGGEST PROBLEM, BUT AT LEAST A VIOLATION THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO APPEAR NOT JUST FOR A TICKET BUT FOR A VIOLATION. SO I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO ASK OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT, YOU KNOW, WE DID CANDIDLY VOTE FOR SOME GENEROUS CONTRACTS FOR OUR POLICE. AND I BELIEVE YOU SHOULD PAY POLICE WELL, BECAUSE THEY HAVE A HARD JOB. YEAH, BUT BUT I WOULD LIKE NOT JUST THAT, BUT WITHIN OUR TOWN, MORE ENFORCEMENT OF THE SPEED LAWS. I SEE ACCIDENTS ALL OVER THE PLACE. OH, ROUTE FIVE IS LIKE A NASCAR STRIP. IT'S RIDICULOUS. I KNOW TOO MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE DIED. I KNOW I WENT TO SCHOOL WITH HARRY PANZARELLA. I'VE SEEN THAT. I WAS AT THAT PARTY. I WATCHED IT HAPPEN. I'M NOT OKAY WITH IT. I'M NOT OKAY WITH THE MOTORCYCLES. I'M NOT OKAY WITH THE JACKASSERY. THAT HAPPENS EVERY FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT.

I'M SO GLAD THAT THAT YOU CAME, BECAUSE I'VE HEARD A LOT OF THIS. AND I TOOK A RIDE MYSELF, AND I TOOK PICTURES ON MY PHONE AND IT WAS COMING BACK. I HAD THE EXACT DATE, THEIR TIME STAMP, AND I WASN'T EVEN TRYING. AND I FOUND 12 CARS WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, EVEN FLORIDA PLATES AND SO FORTH. VERMONT, VERMONT. AND THERE'S DOG ALL OVER THE SAND. IT'S CRAZY. AND. YEAH. SO I DO SUPPORT YOU. AND I WOULD ASK YOU TO HAVE YOUR I WOULD ASK BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN DEMOCRACY. I WOULD ASK YOU TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE COME AND LET MY BOARD MEMBERS KNOW THAT YOU SUPPORTED MY $300 PROPOSAL, THAT MY COLLEAGUES DID NOT BEEN THERE SINCE LOCKSLEY PARK WAS POPULATED. LIKE, THAT'S HOW OLD OUR FAMILY HOUSE HAS BEEN THERE. AND LIKE, WE'VE SEEN THINGS CHANGE OVER DECADES AND IT'S LIKE THERE'S LESS AND LESS ACCOUNTABILITY NOW WHEN THERE'S MORE AND MORE. PLUS, THERE'S PROBLEMS WITH WOODLAWN. I'M TOLD BY THAT'S A BIG PROBLEM. AND THAT'S COMING TO HAMBURG BECAUSE IT'S COMING WHEN THEY WHEN WOODLAWN CLOSES, I'M TOLD BY THEY HIT MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY WHEN THEY HIT MAXIMUM OR THEY'RE CLOSED AND THEY CAN'T SWIM. AND THEN PEOPLE COME AND THEN I BUT I DO. I'M GLAD THAT YOU CAME. SO YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT IT IS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. HEY.

EXCUSE ME. BRIDGET. YEAH. I MEAN, HOW MANY? YOU KNOW, HOW MANY TICKETS WERE WRITTEN OR PAID OR SO. I WORKED ON A REPORT TODAY. AND SINCE JUNE 1ST THROUGH JULY 31ST, BRIDGET, THEIR COURT ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE CLERK OF THE COURT, CLERK OF THE COURT, I WROTE THERE WAS 551 TICKETS ISSUED. HOW MANY 551 TICKETS HAVE BEEN ISSUED SINCE JUNE 1ST THROUGH JULY 31ST. WE GOT A HANDFUL TODAY. SURE. HOW MANY WERE PAID? 382 HAVE BEEN PAID. THERE'S 159 UNPAID, WHICH WAS SENT OUT LATE NOTICES ON BECAUSE THE FINE DOES INCREASE. AND THEN THERE'S TEN INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE FIGHTING THEM. WE HAVE SEVEN GOING TO TRIAL, AND THEN WE HAVE THREE THAT ARE COMING TO MEET WITH THE PROSECUTOR. WHAT WERE THE FINES ON EACH ONE OF THOSE? YOU KNOW, THERE WAS LIKE FIVE AT 75 AND THE REST WERE AT 50, $50. YEAH. BUT I WOULD WERE ANY CARS TOWED? YOU KNOW, I WOULD NOT KNOW THAT THAT I DO KNOW BECAUSE THIS IS ON THIS SUBJECT THAT AND I SPOKE TO THE POLICE ABOUT THIS AS WELL. WE HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH TOWING COMPANIES. MILLER'S BEING ONE OF THEM, THAT IF SOMEONE'S DRIVING WITHOUT A LICENSE OR THEY HAVE NO INSURANCE, THAT THOSE CARS

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THAT'S WHAT YOU TOLD MR. MR. KOZA, I THINK YOU'RE GIVING AN EXTREME EXAMPLE. IF YOU DON'T SUPPORT THE PROPOSAL THAT I HAVE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO VOTE FOR. I DID NOT SUPPORT YOUR $300 PROPOSAL, FRANK. THAT'S WHY I MOVED IT TO 100. 150. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO COMMENT ON? HI. MY NAME IS ROSEMARY APPLEBY. MY HUSBAND AND I LIVE ON MOUNT VERNON, AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE BEEN TO ANY OF THESE MEETINGS. THANK YOU FOR COMING. YOU'RE WELCOME. HAPPY TO SEE YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. I'M SORRY TO SAY IT'S TAKEN US THIS LONG, BUT WE GO TO THE BEACH AT LEAST TWICE A DAY. WE GET UP IN THE MORNING, WE'RE BOTH RETIRED. WE GO DOWN. WE ENJOY HAVING A CUP OF COFFEE FROM TIM HORTONS OR WHATEVER, AND. AND PULL OUT A BOOK AND READ. AND IT'S JUST A WONDERFUL PLACE TO GO TO. BEAUTIFUL BEACH. THEN IN THE EVENING WE ENJOY THE SUNSETS AND I'M TALKING EVERY DAY. AND I HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE SPOKEN. THINGS HAVE GOTTEN WORSE IN THE PAST 2 OR 3 YEARS, AND WE KIND OF KEEP AN EYE ON ON WHAT'S GOING ON, AND I'VE NEVER SEEN SO MANY UN STICKERED CARS. AND IN THE EVENING IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYBODY COMES DOWN TO THE BEACH. THAT SEEMS TO BE THE TIME. WHAT I WANTED TO SUGGEST, THOUGH, I AGREE WITH INCREASING THE FINE. I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE WHO COME DOWN WITH A STICKER UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FINE IS. THEY MAY JUST KIND OF BLOW IT OFF. IF I HAVE TO PAY $25 FOR A PARKING TICKET.

SO WHAT? I THINK IF IT WAS POSTED SOMEPLACE THAT SAYS YOU'LL BE FINED $150 OR $300, THAT MIGHT HAVE A LIGHT BULB GO OFF, OR VIOLATORS WILL BE TOWED OR BE TOWED. BUT I THINK THEY NEED TO BE INFORMED OF THAT. YES. AND I THINK OF THE AMOUNT, TOO, BECAUSE THAT WOULD CERTAINLY DETER ME IF I KNEW IT WAS A $300 FINE OR $150 FINE. OUR BEACH IS A GEM. IT IS AN ABSOLUTE GEM AND WE NEED TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. IT REALLY IS A GREAT PLACE TO GO. IT'S BEAUTIFUL AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WONDERFUL. IF WE DON'T TAKE CARE OF THINGS AND WE ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO ENFORCE OUR, OUR RULES. AND THAT'S WHY I'VE ASKED THE POLICE TO ENFORCE. AND I WILL BE I DON'T KNOW, MY OPINION IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT FORTH A, A SIGN THAT'S GOING TO BE BECAUSE BECAUSE THEY'RE TRESPASSING, THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THERE. BUT SOMEONE COULD CHALLENGE A TICKET, YOU KNOW? AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE COURTS.

THIS IS A COURTROOM, YOU KNOW, AND I'M A LAWYER AND I'VE CHALLENGED CASES AND WON AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS. AND SOME SMART LAWYER MIGHT MAKE THAT. BUT IF WE PUT A LITTLE SIGN UP THAT SAID VIOLATORS WILL BE TOWED, PERIOD. END, WE'VE SATISFIED OUR NOTICE REQUIREMENT. BUT WHAT'S THE WORST THING THAT HAPPENS? WE TELL THEM AND THEY IT GETS DISMISSED. SO WHAT? I THINK YOU SHOULD NOT PARK YOUR CAR. IT JUST LIKE DOWNTOWN BUFFALO. I'VE SEEN CARS IN PRIVATE LOTS BECAUSE THEY'RE TRESPASSING WITH BOOTS ON THEM AND THEN THEY'RE TOWED. BUT I WOULD SUPPORT AND I'LL BE PUTTING FORTH LEGISLATION AT THE NEXT MEETING TO PUT UP A SIGN. AND I'M GOING TO BE ALSO ASKING THAT IT BE INCREASED. AGAIN. I KNOW MR. COSBY'S GOING TO VOTE AGAINST IT, BUT THAT IT BE INCREASED AND THAT VIOLATORS BE TOWED. YOU CAN'T PUT THE AMOUNT THAT THEY'LL BE FINED. YES WE CAN. OH WE CAN'T. I HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS ABOUT A WEEK OR TWO AGO REGARDING SIGNAGE, WHERE TO PUT IT, HOW TO PUT IT, AND, AND SO WORKING WITH BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS AND GETTING THE FINANCES IN THERE AND WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PUT THEM AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO PUT THEM, YOU KNOW, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THAT WHOLE BRICK WALL GOING AROUND THERE. SO IF YOU PUT ONE IN BETWEEN THERE AND AS YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PASS, YOU WILL BE TICKETED, FINED, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S AMAZING BECAUSE IT'S VERY OBVIOUS THAT IT SAYS YOU NEED A STICKER. AND THEN YES, AND THEN PEOPLE WILL SAY, OH, I NEED A STICKER. AND TO THE LEFT YOU COULD PUT ONE BIG SIGN RIGHT AT THAT FIRST PARKING SPOT IN THE

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AND I WAS TOLD THAT THE NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION MADE US TAKE THAT DOWN, WHICH I'M LIKE THINKING, OKAY, YOU KNOW, THAT IS NOT GOING TO IMPACT EROSION OR THE ENVIRONMENT. AND SO THAT WAS THE RATIONALE. AND SO MR. HUGHES WAS ON IT. HE ALWAYS TAKES MY CALL. I HAVE TO GIVE HIM COMPLIMENTS FOR WHEN I WHEN I CALL HIM, HE ANSWERS MY CALL AND HE ANSWERS MY QUESTIONS DIRECTLY, WHICH I, WHICH I APPRECIATE BECAUSE IT MIGHT NOT EVEN BE WHAT I WANT TO HEAR. BUT HE ALWAYS TELLS THE TRUTH. AND HE. AND SO HE TOLD ME. HE SAID, YEAH, WE HAD TO TAKE IT DOWN BECAUSE OF THE NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION. SO MR. HUGHES INFORMED ME THAT HE HAD PUT FORTH A PERMIT REQUEST APPLICATION AT THAT SITE. AND I TALKED TO HIM TODAY. AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE HAD A VERY NICE CONVERSATION. SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO NOW. NEW YORK STATE, THEY COULD SCREW UP A TWO CAR FUNERAL. AND WE ALL WE ALL KNOW THAT. BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO AND MY COMMITMENT IS I'M GOING TO I'LL KEEP WRITING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ASK THAT THEY VIGOROUSLY ENFORCE THAT LAW, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU, THE VOTERS WANT. SECURITY DOES A GREAT JOB, TOO. I MEAN, WE THERE SO OFTEN WE'VE COME TO KNOW EVERYBODY AND THEY'VE KIND OF BECOME FRIENDS TO US TOO. BUT THEY DO A GREAT JOB, YOU KNOW. BUT SOMETIMES IT'S TOUGH TO HANDLE. AND I'M GLAD WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO KEEPING THAT. THE GEM THAT IT REALLY IS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? THAT'S IT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ADJOURNED. OKAY, OKAY. NUMBER 4.4. NOW, AS FAR AS OUR TOWN ATTORNEY, DOES THAT MEAN THAT THAT GOES INTO EFFECT NOW, THAT INCREASE THAT WE HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING. YOU HAVE TO VOTE NO. THAT'S THE RESOLUTION I'M PUTTING. IT NEEDS TO BE A RESOLUTION. AND AFTER THE HEARINGS SO LANDED. GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. THERE NEEDS TO BE A RESOLUTION ADOPTED BY THE TOWN BOARD AFTER THE HEARING IS COMPLETED. OKAY. WELL, I WHEN I WAS HERE LAST TIME WHEN I HAD PUT FORTH THE RESOLUTION TO INCREASE IT TO $300, I WAS TOLD BY YOU THAT WE HAD TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, AND I HAD ASKED THAT IT BE DRAFTED UP SO WE COULD GET IT DONE TODAY. WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE IT $150 TODAY? YOU COULD ADOPT A RESOLUTION TODAY. OKAY. SO IT WAS IN THE PACK. IT'S ACTUALLY ISN'T IT IN THE. OKAY. SO OKAY. WELL I WOULD ASK THAT WE PUT FORTH A I AM PUTTING FORTH A RESOLUTION TO INCREASE THE. DO NOT BE LATE RESOLUTION AS A LATE RESOLUTION. YES. SO THAT THE THAT THE FINE BE A MINIMUM OF $100. NOW KEEP IN MIND I DID ASK FOR 300. BUT THIS IS DEMOCRACY TO A MAXIMUM FINE NOT TO EXCEED $150. AT PUT FORTH AN ITEM 4.3 OF THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE JUST HAD LATE, SO FIRST MOTION IS TO HAVE A LATE RESOLUTION. ALL IN FAVOR LET'S GET THROUGH THE AGENDA, MAN. NO, LET'S LET'S DO IT RIGHT NOW OKAY. WE HAVE PEOPLE HERE THAT SPOKE AND LET'S GET IT DONE. MAKE A SUGGESTION. SURE. HOW ABOUT YOU LOOK AT THE VERBIAGE OF THE LAST ONE YOU PUT TOGETHER. I'LL TURN TO SAY FROM 100 TO 150 THAT WE KNOW THE VERBIAGE IS CORRECT. IT'S ON THE LAST MEETING AGENDA. IT'S 100 TO 150. RIGHT. BUT THAT WAY THE VERBIAGE IS WHAT YOU WANT. YOU KNOW, IT'S DOTTED I'S AND CROSS T'S. WELL IT'S RIGHT HERE. IT'S SECTION 180 8-2A USE PERMIT PENALTIES FOR OFFENSES. SO MY MOTION IS THAT THE CODE BE AMENDED TO THAT. THIS SECTION WHICH IS RIGHT HERE SECTION 188 DASH 21 A USE PERMIT PENALTIES FOR OFFENSES TO BE CHANGED TO STATE THE DRIVER OF SAID MOTOR VEHICLE ENTERING SAID PARK WITHOUT DISPLAYING A VALID USE PERMIT SHALL BE GUILTY OF AN OFFENSE PUNISHABLE BY A MINIMUM FINE OF $100 AND A MAXIMUM NOT TO EXCEED $150. SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR I. I OPPOSED, CARRIED. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND ALSO ON 4.4, I WOULD JUST ASK THE

[4.4. Public Hearing-Idlewood Subdivision Water Distribution District]

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ESTIMATED MAXIMUM COST OF IMPROVEMENTS AND CREATION OF THE DISTRICT IS 632,000, WITH THE PROPOSED METHOD OF FINANCING SUCH COSTS OF SAID IMPROVEMENT CONSISTING OF THE ISSUANCE OF SERIAL BONDS, THE TOWN MATURING ANNUAL INSTALLMENTS OVER A PERIOD NOT EXCEEDING 38 YEARS, ESTIMATED ANNUAL COST FOR TYPICAL PROPERTY OR TYPICAL ONE FAMILY, TWO TWO FAMILY HOME IN THE DISTRICT IS 2051 TO $2051 FOR FIRST YEAR, WHICH INCLUDES 1773 FOR DEBT SERVICE, OPERATION, MAINTENANCE AND $278 FOR WATER USAGE CHARGES. IT'S CALCULATED BASED ON ERIE COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY MINIMUM QUARTERLY CHARGE PER CUSTOMER, WHICH IS DETAILED IN APPENDIX C.

THERE ARE NO ESTIMATED HOOKUP OR CONNECTION FEES ANTICIPATED FOR PROPERTY OWNERS. DETAILED EXPANSION OF ESTIMATED COSTS. TYPICAL PROPERTY WAS COMPUTED AND FILED AND IS AVAILABLE FOR REVIEW AND INSPECTION OF TOWN CLERK'S OFFICE PURSUANT TO TOWN LAW SECTION 209 F APPROVAL OF THE DISTRICT IS OF THIS DISTRICT BY THE STATE COMPTROLLER IS REQUIRED BECAUSE THE ESTIMATED TOTAL ANNUAL COST OF TYPICAL PROPERTY IN THE DISTRICT IS ABOVE THE ANNUAL ESTIMATED COST THRESHOLD FOR SIMILAR TYPES OF DISTRICTS, AS SET BY THE STATE COMPTROLLER. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED. SECTION ONE. TOWN BOARD WILL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING PURSUANT TO SECTION 12 A, AS WE'RE DOING CURRENTLY. SECTION TWO TOWN CLERK IS HEREBY AUTHORIZED, DIRECTED TO CAUSE A COPY OF THE ORDER TO BE PUBLISHED ONCE IN THE OFFICIAL NEWSPAPER AND WHICH WAS WAS DONE AND IS BEING READ NOW. NINE SECTION THREE TOWN CLERK SHALL FILE A CERTIFIED COPY OF THIS ORDER WITH THE OFFICE OF THE STATE COMPTROLLER, ON OR ABOUT THE DATE OF PUBLICATION OF THIS ORDER, AND SECTION FOUR. THIS ORDER SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY. CAN I ASK A QUESTION, KEN, IF YOU COULD REMEMBER OR THINK THE TYPICAL HOMEOWNER, THE TWO FAMILY DISTRICT 2000. ALL THOSE PRICES ARE SET BY THE STATE, NOT BY THE TOWN. NO, ACTUALLY THE CALCULATED AMOUNTS ARE CALCULATED BASED UPON THE COST OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE ENDED. RIGHT. THOSE LISTED COSTS. I DEFER TO ENGINEERING, BUT I'M THINK I'M CORRECT IN SAYING THOSE, DEFER THOSE COSTS THAT ARE LISTED IN THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO ARE THE COST IS CALCULATED BASED UPON THE COST AND THE INCLUDED IN THE MAP PLAN REPORT COMPLETED BY THE ENGINEERS. AND THEN IT ALSO LISTS THE GO AHEAD. I THINK I MISSPOKE OF THE PAYMENT PLAN, LIKE HOW MUCH DO THEY PAY PER ANNUALLY? IS THAT SET BY STATE OR IS THAT SET BY THE TOWN? IS THAT SET BY? NO, THAT WOULD BE A CALCULATION BASED UPON THE BOND INTEREST RATES CURRENTLY PREVAILING IN THE MARKET, THE CALCULATION DONE BY THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, OR MAYBE OUR BOND CONSULTANT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYBODY HERE TALKING OKAY. ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING? WELL GENTLEMEN MAKES IT. THERE WAS AN EMAIL THAT WAS SENT TO ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS. THAT'LL BE A PART OF THE OFFICIAL RECORD AS WELL. HI. MY NAME IS GREG TRIPP. I HAVE A QUESTION. THIS THIS WATER ISSUE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE RESOLVED OVER 20 YEARS AGO.

STEPHEN WALTERS SIGNED. WHO WAS THE SUPERVISOR AT THE TIME, SIGNED DOCUMENTED PROOF THAT THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE 20 YEARS AGO. SO THE COST HAS ONLY GONE UP OVER THESE 20 YEARS. AND NOW YOU'RE TAKING THIS CALCULATION, AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY A SPECIAL WATER DISTRICT.

IT'S COSTING US THIS MUCH MORE WHEN THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE A LONG TIME AGO. NOT NOT YOUR FAULT. THIS ALL HAPPENED PRIOR TO YOU GUYS. BUT WHY ARE WE BEING MADE TO PAY FOR THE TOWN'S PAST MISTAKES? THAT'S MY QUESTION. AND SECOND, THE OTHER PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE IS THE WATER LINES RUN RIGHT THROUGH OUR ROAD, AND WE'VE BEEN TAKING CARE OF THE ROAD FOR 50 YEARS SINCE I'VE. I'VE MOVED THERE WHEN I WAS FIVE. WE'VE BEEN TAKING CARE OF THE ROAD FOR 50 YEARS. THE WATER LINES AND ALL THESE UTILITIES ARE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, AND THE TOWN SHOULD BE TAKING OVER THESE ROADS. THESE ARE THE TOWN'S ROADS, NOT OURS. THEY'RE ONCE THESE RIGHT, THE ROAD IS RIGHT OF WAY. AND YOU GUYS OWN THE WATER LINES. I MEAN, AND I WAS TOLD BY THE PREVIOUS TOWN ENGINEER THAT THE TOWN DOES OWN THE ROADS. SO WHEN YOU WHEN THESE ROADS ARE TORN UP AND YOU REPAIR THE WATER LINES AS YOU SHOULD HAVE 20 YEARS AGO, WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO TAKE CARE OF THE ROADS? BECAUSE THE ROADS SHOULD BE TAKEN OVER BY THE TOWN AS ALL OF THE OTHER LOCAL BEACH

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GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS THOMAS BROWN. I LIVE AT 1165 WEST ARNOLD DRIVE, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE ASK THE BOARD. WELL, ACTUALLY, I'VE ALREADY INDICATED MY CONCERNS TO THE TOWN CLERK AS WELL AS VARIOUS ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS HERE. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE TOWN AT THIS POINT, RATHER THAN DRAG THIS SITUATION OUT, IF THEY WOULD CONSIDER AN INDIVIDUAL A SEPARATE MEETING, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST IN A YEAR TO DISCUSS THESE YOUR PLANS BEFORE MOVING FORWARD. THAT'S THE ONE INDICATION. THERE SEEMS TO BE QUITE A BIT OF QUESTION AS TO THE FINANCIAL END OF IT. THE RESPONSIBILITY END, THE ACTUAL END RESULT, AS MR. TRIPP HAS ALSO SAID. SO AGAIN, MY REQUEST IS THAT THE BOARD WOULD CONSIDER BEFORE MOVING FORWARD TO SCHEDULE A MEETING WITH PERHAPS ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE SITUATION AND WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING. AS LONG AS WELL AS THE TOWN ENGINEER AND PERHAPS THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE AT THE SAME TIME, IF THAT BE POSSIBLE, THAT'D BE GREAT. THANK YOU. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. I'M GLAD THAT YOU CAME, SIR. MR. MY NAME IS DAVID. I LIVE AT 1185 WEST ARNOLD. YOU GAVE A COST OF $2,000 FOR THE FIRST YEAR. IS THAT THE ESTIMATED COST FOR THE NEXT 38 YEARS AS WELL? THAT'S GOING TO BE $2,000 ADDITIONAL TO OUR TAXES. OR HOW IS THIS GOING TO BE PAID BY THE INDIVIDUALS THAT LIVE BACK THERE? DOES ANYBODY KNOW THAT RIGHT NOW OR SIR, I, I'M GLAD THAT WE HAVE THIS PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE SINCE I'VE BEEN ELECTED TO THE BOARD, NOT NOT QUITE TWO YEARS AGO, THIS WAS IT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT AS THE GENTLEMAN IS IT TRAP OR TRAP? TRAP, AS MR. TRIPP STATED, I'VE HEARD ABOUT IT ANECDOTALLY, YOU KNOW, LIVING IN HAMBURG BUT DIDN'T KNOW A LOT ABOUT IT BECAUSE, CANDIDLY, IT DIDN'T AFFECT ME JUST TO BE STRAIGHT WITH YOU. THEN WHEN I GOT ONTO THE BOARD, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED AND I'VE HAD CITIZENS COME BEFORE US. WE'VE ALSO HAD ONE OF THE CITIZENS HAD AN ATTORNEY CAME.

AND I DO CAN TELL YOU THIS TODAY IS JUST A PUBLIC HEARING. IT HASN'T BEEN DECIDED WHAT THIS BOARD IS GOING TO DO. AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE, AS I SAID BEFORE, THE PURPOSE OF, YOU KNOW, EXACTLY WHY WHY YOU'RE HERE. I'M TRYING TO MAKE MY POINT FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING TO NOT READ A THOUSAND WORDS. IS ANYONE HERE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE WEST ARNOLD PROJECT? YOU'RE HERE. AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU TALKED TO US ABOUT IT, BECAUSE I'M UNCOMFORTABLE AGAIN, BEING STRAIGHT WITH YOU BECAUSE I. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE EVERYONE FEELS, AND I DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO JAM ANYBODY UP. BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT TO BE NEGLIGENT AS WELL.

OKAY. MY OTHER QUESTION. AND MAYBE IT'S MY FAULT, YOU KNOW, BUT I DON'T GET THE, THE SUN OR, OR I DON'T GO ON THE INTERNET VERY OFTEN. I HAD NO IDEA THAT THIS WAS EVEN PROPOSED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT SINCE THIS IS AFFECTING THIS LITTLE COMMUNITY, THAT A LETTER WOULD HAVE BEEN SENT TO THE HOMES INDIVIDUALLY SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE BEEN MADE AWARE OF THIS PROPOSAL SO THAT WE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW AND THINK ABOUT IT, AS OPPOSED TO LIKE, HEY, DID YOU HEAR ABOUT THIS? AND WE HAVE TO COME IN. YOU KNOW, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S A SMALL STREET. WE COULD HAVE DONE WE COULD HAVE DONE BETTER. I AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK I THINK I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE YOU'RE HERE. AND I THINK A MEETING IS A GOOD IDEA FOR US ON THE BOARD. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'LL EVER GET 100% CONSENSUS, EVEN WITHIN YOUR COMMUNITY.

THAT'S THAT'S SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THAT THAT I, I STRUGGLE WITH. I THINK GOVERNMENT SHOULDN'T BE. DOWN PEOPLE'S THROATS LIKE I BELIEVE IN THE SMALLEST POSSIBLE GOVERNMENT.

[00:40:03]

YES, I BELIEVE I TALKED TO YOU, ACTUALLY, WHILE I WAS CAMPAIGNING. AND YOU YOU EXPLAINED THAT ROAD TO ME AND I BELIEVE, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS AGO IT WAS MADE A PROPOSAL TO HAVE IT PAVED. AND THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY CHOSE NOT TO. AND I, I THINK HE HAD A PRETTY GOOD PRICE. BUT ANYWAYS, THEY CHOSE TO HAVE IT A PRIVATE ROAD. THE WATER AUTHORITY. ONCE THAT THOSE HYDRANTS AND STUFF ARE IN THERE, THEY WILL NOT TAKE CARE OF YOU. YOU'LL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THE WATER. IT'S JUST LIKE IN SOME OF THESE HOMES, IT'S BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET DOWN THOSE ROADS OR THEY YOU KNOW, THAT'S THEIR COMMENT FROM THE. IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ERIE COUNTY WATER WON'T COME BACK THERE BECAUSE YOU GUYS HAVEN'T UPGRADED THE LINES. YEAH, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT I'VE BEEN TOLD PREVIOUSLY TO THIS MEETING.

WHEN I GOT UP THERE, THAT WAS WHAT I WAS TOLD BY THE PREVIOUS ENGINEER, WAS THAT THE WATER AUTHORITY WON'T WON'T DO IT BECAUSE IT'S A PRIVATE ROAD. THAT'S NOT. I'M SORRY. THAT'S A DIFFERENT UNDERSTANDING. YEP YEP YEP I AGREE I HAVE THE DOCUMENTATION THAT SAYS THAT ERIE COUNTY WATER ONCE, ONCE THE WATER, THE WATER WENT UNDER IT AND WAS TAKEN OVER BY ERIE COUNTY WATER. ERIE COUNTY WATER WOULD NOT TAKE OVER THOSE LINES UNTIL THEY WERE UPGRADED, AND THE TOWN WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR UPGRADING THEM. ONCE THE TOWN UPGRADES THE LINES, THEN WATER WILL TAKE OVER THE LINES, BUT THEY WON'T TAKE THEM UP UNTIL THEY'RE UP TO CODE. THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS IN THE WELL THAT I BELIEVE. YEAH, AND HOW MANY TIMES THE TOWN OF HAMBURG HAS COME BACK IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS HAVING TO REPAIR THE WATER LINES. I MEAN, THEY'VE BEEN BACK THERE AT LEAST A HALF A DOZEN TIMES THAT I'M AWARE OF, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, IT JUST SEEMS THAT WE COULD DO BETTER. I DON'T KNOW, I AGREE, I AGREE, I THINK BECAUSE I DO REMEMBER ONE OF THE WATERWORKS AND THAT'S WHERE THE SEAWAY TRAIL CENTER AND I DON'T KNOW THE HISTORICAL CONTEXT RELATIVE TO WEST ARNOLD, BUT I KNOW THERE'S A PIPE THAT STILL GOES OUT THERE. IT'S STILL THERE THAT GOES OUT INTO THE LAKE. AND THERE USED TO BE A BUOY THERE. YOU COULD SEE WHERE WHERE IT WAS MARKED. IT WAS A RED BUOY. BUT DO YOU KNOW, IS THAT IS THAT WHY YOU'RE SAYING IT'S THE WATER. DO YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD YOU SAY, SIR? WHEN, WHEN THE WATER WAS BOUGHT OUT BY ERIE COUNTY WATER, THEY THEY SAID THAT THEY WOULD NOT MAINTAIN WEST ARNOLD'S WATER LINES UNTIL THEY WERE BROUGHT UP TO CODE. AND THEY SAID THE TOWN, THE TOWN SIGNED OFF AND SAID THAT THEY WERE RESPONSIBLE. I HAVE ALL THE DOCUMENTATION, AND THE TOWN HAS TO BRING THOSE WATER LINES UP TO CODE. THEN ONCE THEY'RE UP TO CODE, THEY CAN TURN THEM OVER TO ERIE COUNTY WATER, AND THEY'LL BE RESPONSIBILITY OF YOUR COUNTY AND NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ROADS OR ANYTHING ELSE. THAT'S THAT'S JUST THE WATER. OKAY? WE'RE NOT UP. IT'S GOT A THREE INCH MAIN FROM WAY BACK IN LIKE THE 40S.

AND IT'S NOT ADEQUATE. WE HAVE WE HAVE FIRE HYDRANTS THAT ARE NOT ADEQUATE, NOT CLOSE ENOUGH TO HOUSES. THERE ARE THREE THAT DON'T WORK. THERE'S ONLY ONE THAT WORKS. THAT'S IN THE CIRCLE, WHICH HAPPENS TO BE THE FARTHEST FROM OUR HOUSE. SO IT'S BEEN 20 YEARS THAT THE TOWN SIGNED UP THAT THEY WERE GOING TO UPGRADE THE LINES AND HAVE. SO THEY NEED THAT THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. BUT ON TOP OF THAT, THERE'S THE OTHER ISSUE. SO YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT. BEGINS WITH THE LETTER M MONEY. RIGHT. EVERYONE'S KIND OF SAYING LIKE THIS. LIKE THAT'S KIND OF WHAT, WHAT WHAT THIS IS I MEAN, HARD MONEY, RIGHT? I WISH THEY WOULD HAVE DONE IT 20 YEARS AGO SO I WOULDN'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT LIKE. COVID MONEY WAS THERE. IT WAS DESIGNATED TO BE USED FOR IT, AND THEY TOOK IT AWAY. JOSH, CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY FOR ME? I BELIEVE I HAD ASKED AT OUR EARLIER MEETING, THE RESIDENTS WERE TO BE NOTIFIED PEOPLE WITHIN, I THINK IT WAS 500FT OF THE PROJECT. RIGHT? CORRECT. OKAY. SO IF YOU DID, IF YOU DID NOT GET A LETTER. OKAY. THANK GOD. I LOVE A GOOD OLD NEIGHBORHOOD NETWORK. TRUST ME, THAT'S MY ACTIVISM ROUTE SITTING AROUND RIGHT THERE. CAN YOU PLEASE DO ME A FAVOR AND EITHER SEE JOSH AND GIVE HIM YOUR ADDRESS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE CORRECT MAILING ADDRESS? BECAUSE I'M FEARFUL THAT THE ADDRESS YOU LIVE AT IS PERHAPS NOT THE ADDRESS YOU'RE GETTING THE MAIL LIKE IT MIGHT BE A P.O. BOX OR

[00:45:05]

HE'S NOW SOLD HIS HOUSE. SO I OWN IT IN A MONTH. AND I'M WITH THE HOMEOWNERS. YEAH. I'M NOT STANDING IN THE WAY, BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROJECT TO LIFE THAT HONORS GOD AND. YEAH, BUT IT'S ALSO, I BELIEVE AT THE TIME THAT WE WERE TOLD THAT THERE WERE ISSUES REGARDING THE IDEA OF THE PRIVATE ROAD AND SOME OTHER ISSUES. SO THAT CAN BE PART OF THAT CONVERSATION. YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT'S TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE SIT DOWN SO THAT EVERYONE CAN HAVE THAT UNDERSTANDING AND WE CAN WORK THROUGH THAT. I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS I DID IS MET TO SEE IF THERE WAS FUNDING AVAILABLE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN APPROPRIATE. EVERYTHING THAT I TRIED TO CHECK OUT UNFORTUNATELY HASN'T WORKED OUT. IT HASN'T PAIRED WELL EVEN AS FAR AS THE FINANCING FOR THE PROJECT. THE TOWN ENGINEER AND I MET AND MET WITH OUR OUR GRANT WRITER TO SEE BECAUSE THERE ARE GRANTS THROUGH THE STATE. AND SO WE'VE BEEN WE'VE SPENT HOURS ACTUALLY EXHAUSTIVELY GOING THROUGH ANY POSSIBILITY FOR OTHER FUNDING SOURCES THAT COULD ALLEVIATE PART OF THE COST OF THE PROJECT OR EVEN THE FINANCING FOR THE PROJECT. SO WE'RE WILLING TO SIT AND TALK WITH YOU AND TRY TO FIGURE THIS OUT. IT'S A LONG IT'S A LONG HISTORY, AS YOU KNOW, COMPLICATED BY SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WERE ENCOUNTERED A FEW YEARS AGO. I WOULD SIMPLY ADDRESS THE BOARD AND SAY, DO WE HAVE ANY FINANCIAL INTEREST? WAS THERE ANY INDUCEMENT THAT WAS GOING TO MAKE US GO FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT AT THIS TIME, OR ARE WE JUST LOOKING OUT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AND HEALTH? IS THAT IS THAT HAS THAT BEEN OUR OUR MOTIVE BECAUSE BECAUSE REALLY WHEN YOU WHEN I, WHEN YOU HEAR PEOPLE SAY WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO THIS 20 YEARS AGO, WELL, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE ISSUES AROUND THINGS. BUT NOW THE CAN HAS BEEN KICKED DOWN THE ROAD FAR ENOUGH. SO IS THAT WHAT WE'VE DECIDED? WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT ANYMORE. IS THAT THE REASON? YEAH. YEAH. THAT WAS GOING TO SAY, YOU KNOW, AND FOLKS, I JUST SAY JUST TO MY FELLOW TAXPAYERS, I WOULD SAY BE CAREFUL WHO YOU ELECT. AND ALSO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN YOU ARE A COMMUNITY OR A GROUP, TRY TO BE UNANIMOUS IN WHAT YOU WANT. IF YOU'RE AS A IF THERE'S A QUESTION BETWEEN PUBLIC AND PRIVATE AND YOU WANT SOMETHING YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE WHAT COMES WITH IT. SO ALL I CAN SAY IS GOOD LUCK. AND I HOPE THAT I

[00:50:03]

HOW ELSE CAN WE ADDRESS THIS? HOW ELSE CAN THIS BE TACKLED? I, YOU KNOW, AND I WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH OUR ENGINEER TO I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE TO GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE PROJECT, BECAUSE WHEN THE PROJECT FIRST STARTED OUT AND WAS INTRODUCED AND IT ENCOUNTERED DIFFICULTIES BECAUSE OF THE ISSUE OF THE PRIVATE ROAD AND THE OTHER OWNER, ETCETERA, AND THERE WERE A LOT OF OTHER ISSUES ALSO. BUT THE IT WAS ORIGINALLY COSTED AT A MUCH LOWER, LOWER ESTIMATE. SO I THINK IT ALWAYS WILL TAKE THE LOWER ESTIMATE. RIGHT. WELL, EXACTLY. I THINK WE ALL WOULD. SO I THINK IT, IT NEVER HURTS FOR US TO CIRCLE BACK AND LOOK AT IT AGAIN FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. AND ALSO CHALLENGE, IS THERE A DIFFERENT WAY WE CAN

[00:55:01]

YEARS TO PAY FOR THE FOLLOWING IN THE ROAD. IT WAS REALLY NEVER INFORM ON EACH OTHER. ANYWAYS, I'LL END. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. I APPRECIATE IT AND I CAN'T SAY I'VE EVER BEEN TO A TOWN BOARD MEETING, AND HOPEFULLY THIS IS ONE OF MY NOT ONLY MY FIRST, BUT ONE OF MY LAST. HOPEFULLY YOU SHOULD GET INVOLVED. YOU SOUND LIKE A VERY SMART GUY. SMART ENOUGH NOT TO GET INVOLVED. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? YES. THANKS. YES. OKAY, SO WE'RE LEAVING THE MEETING OPEN. SO IT'LL BE DISCUSSED AGAIN AT THE SEPTEMBER MEETING. BUT IF. HE'S GOING TO SCHEDULE SOME TYPE OF MEETING FOR THE RESIDENTS. IF WE CAN GET THAT. AND THANKS FOR COMING TODAY, EVERYBODY. THE INFORMATION FROM OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT, JUST SO YOU KNOW, TODAY, THIS WAS A PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE WEREN'T DECIDING THIS ISSUE. SO SOMETIMES, LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS COME UP ABOUT LIKE BRUSH REMOVAL AND NO ONE SHOWS UP BECAUSE IT'S A CONTRACT. BUT IF WE DON'T HEAR FROM YOU, THEN WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO OUR JOBS. SO THANK YOU. WHAT CAN WE HAVE YOUR OFFICE BE THE POINT PERSON AND THE RESIDENTS CAN AMONGST YOURSELVES, PICK A POINT PERSON TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE OFFICE.

THAT WAY WE'RE NOT TRYING TO TRACK ALL OF YOU DOWN AND SEND LIKE GOOGLE FORMS TO SEND A MEETING. AND YOU. WE CAN JUST MINIMIZE THE TELEPHONE GAME, PERHAPS, BUT IS THAT POSSIBLE? I SEE A LOT OF NODDING HEADS LIKE OKAY, PERFECT, BUT TYPICALLY TYPICALLY IS IT SINCE HE ASKED FOR IT EMAIL TO NOMINATE YOU. BUT TYPICALLY IT'S AN EVENING. EVENING TIME IS WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. CORRECT. EVENING TIME IS AT LIKE 5:00, 6:00, 7:00. GET US IN THE HEAD IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. WHAT WERE YOUR WORK? WHAT WORKS BETTER TIME WISE A LITTLE BIT LATER? YES. 6 OR 7 WORKS FOR EVERYONE. OKAY, OKAY. SO JUST HAVE YOUR POINT, PERSON. WHOEVER YOU DECIDE AMONGST ALL OF YOU OR TWO POINT PEOPLE, WHATEVER IT IS, REACH OUT TO THE SUPERVISOR'S OFFICE TOMORROW AND THAT WAY WE CAN GET THE PROCESS MOVING. MAKE SURE KENNY CAN FIT IT IN THEIR SCHEDULE. PEOPLE CAN MAKE UP. I JUST I DON'T WANT RESIDENTS FRUSTRATED WHEN THERE'S 20 OF THEM TRYING TO CONTACT THE SUPERVISOR AND HAVING NOT KNOWING WHO TO GET THE INFORMATION TO, TO WORK THROUGH IT. SO THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THESE OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ON TO 4.5 THEN 4.5 HILBERT COLLEGE FACILITY USE AGREEMENT. WHEREAS HILBERT COLLEGE DESIRES TO ENTER INTO A FACILITY USE AGREEMENT WITH TOWN OF HAMBURG UTILIZING TOWN OF HAMBURG AND NIKE BASED ICE ARENA LOCATED AT TWO 2982 LAKEVIEW ROAD SOLELY FOR USE BY HILBERT COLLEGE WOMEN'S ICE HOCKEY TEAM BEGINNING TEN 125 AND ENDING TWO 2828, HILBERT COLLEGE SHALL PAY ANNUAL RENTAL FEES OF $25,000 FOR 20 2526, 30,000 FOR 2627, AND 35,000 FOR THE 2728 SEASON. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, HAMBURG SHALL ENTER INTO A FACILITY USE AGREEMENT WITH THE HILBERT COLLEGE. BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, SUPERVISOR IS AUTHORIZED TO SEND FACILITY USE AGREEMENT ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG. BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE RENTAL PAYMENTS RECEIVED UNDER THIS AGREEMENT SHALL BE RECEIPT OF THE REVENUE CODE, A0002 .2026.000 ICE ARENA, RINK AND RENTAL FEES SO MOVED. SECOND ON THE QUESTION IS THIS IN ADDITION TO ICE RENTAL FEES OR WHAT ARE THE DETAILS OF THIS? THIS IS THE IS JILL HERE? JILL HERE? YEP.

JILL, DID YOU HEAR THE QUESTION? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. IT'S EVERYTHING HAS BEEN DISCUSSED

[01:00:02]

CORRECT. IS THAT INCLUSIVE OR EXCLUSIVE? INCLUSIVE OF LIKE THERE'S A FINITE LIKE THE I THINK WHAT COUNCILMEMBER IS ASKING IS THE $25,000 IS X NUMBER OF HOURS OF RENTAL TIME.

IF THEY WERE TO EXCEED THAT, THEN THEY WOULD PAY A SET FEE AWARDED IN THE CONTRACT THAT IT HAS TO BE THE SAME AS THE PREVIOUS YEARS. WAS THAT CONTRACT CIRCULATED? WAIT, WAIT, I HATE TO INTERRUPT. YEAH. SO JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THIS IS THE LATEST PROPOSAL THAT WAS MADE IN RESPONSE TO OUR PREVIOUS PROPOSALS. WE'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH A NUMBER OF TIMES WITH THE WITH HILBERT. AND SO I DO KNOW THIS WAS THIS WAS AN INCLUSIVE NUMBER, MEANING THAT THEY WERE NOT WILLING TO OFFER. THIS IS THEIR LAST OFFER. THEY WAS HOW THEY COUCHED IT AND SAID THAT THEY WERE WILLING TO PAY THIS AMOUNT PER YEAR. ALL INCLUSIVE, ALL INCLUSIVE. YEAH, I WOULD, I DON'T I DON'T RECALL GETTING A CIRCULATED COPY OF THE CONTRACT. SO IS THIS WHAT YOU WERE WANTING TO I WASN'T FINISHED, I WASN'T FINISHED TALKING. SO PLEASE DON'T INTERRUPT. SO WHAT I WOULD WOULD LIKE TO DO IS GET A COPY OF THE CONTRACT SO THAT I CAN REVIEW IT. I CAN TELL YOU THAT $200 IS ACCEPTED. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS ON THE PHONE. $200 IS VERY CHEAP. I KNOW IT'S A IT'S A LOCAL COLLEGE, BUT OUR HOCKEY TEAM THAT I COACH PAYS OVER $300 AN HOUR. AND THIS IS A PRIVATE COLLEGE. SO THAT'S QUITE A BARGAIN. AND I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE KNOWING WHAT THE LIMITS ARE. I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, IT IS A MUNICIPAL RINK AND WE'D LIKE TO CUT PEOPLE BREAKS.

BUT I WANT TO BE CONSISTENT. MEANING IF WE'RE CHARGING ONE GROUP MORE MONEY, WHY WOULD WE CHARGE ANOTHER GROUP LESS? SO WHAT, I WOULD ASK? LET ME FINISH. TO GET. I'M MAKING A REQUEST FOR MORE INFORMATION FOR THE CONTRACT SO I CAN SEE WHAT IT INCLUDES, WHAT THE LIMITS ARE, AND I'M MAKING A MOTION TO TABLE THIS UNTIL WE CAN REVIEW ALL THE DETAILS OF THE CONTRACT.

I THINK WE ALREADY HAVE A FIRST AND A SECOND. YES. BUT JILL, THE QUESTION SORRY, THE QUESTION I HAVE IS THAT DO YOU FROM PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS AND THE DIRECTION YOU WERE GIVEN BY THIS BOARD, IT WAS THAT THE $200 AMOUNT BE INCORPORATED IN AND THEY ACCEPTED THAT. AND THAT THAT $200 AMOUNT IS WHAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE OTHER SCHOOLS. WHAT WE'RE CHARGING, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. THAT'S THE ACADEMIC PRICE THAT WE'VE GIVEN TO SCHOOLS IN THE IN LOCALLY. AND THAT'S AN INCREASE. THAT WAS THE INCREASE THAT THE BOARD DIRECTED YOU TO GO TO. THAT'S CORRECT. AND THIS WAS ON THE AGENDA THAT WE RECEIVED ON THURSDAY AT 4:00. CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. CAN WE GET. OH YES. BUT THERE'S NO THERE'S NO COPY OF THE CONTRACT HERE THAT'S NOT BEEN CIRCULATED. YEAH. THE CONTRACT I IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED. I'M NOT SURE WHY I WASN'T PART OF IT BECAUSE IT WAS PART OF THE PACKAGE THAT WENT ALONG WITH THE BREAKS FROM HILBERT WHEN THEY GIVE US A DATE TO THE DANCE AND ALL THAT STUFF.

THEATER WE JUST FINISHED. YEAH. PERFORMING ARTS. WE DO HAVE IT IN-KIND. YES, AS WELL. CORRECT.

SO OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? NO, I WOULD JUST MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS UNTIL I CAN GET A COPY OF THE CONTRACT. SECOND, WE HAVE ALREADY HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. SO WHEN DOES HILBERT BEGIN RENTING ICE FOR THE FALL? THERE'S HEATING SEASON BECAUSE THE FIRST OR SECOND WEEK IN OCTOBER IS WHEN THEY START, OKAY. AND WE START MAKING ICE BEGINNING OF SEPTEMBER, HOPING TO HAVE IT DOWN BY EITHER SEPTEMBER 12TH OR 13TH. SO IT'S A GOOD 4 OR 5 WEEKS BEFORE THEY ARE ON THE ICE. THAT'S CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. SO I HAVE A MOTION FOR BETH AND SECONDED BY DAN TO APPROVE THIS. I HAVE A MOTION. OKAY. I'M SORRY I HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE. WE GOT A VOTE ON THIS ONE FIRST. SO ALL IN FAVOR OF ADOPTING THIS BASED ON BETH AND DAN'S MOTIONS, I, I, I. OKAY, OKAY. OPPOSED ONE. I'M SORRY. WHAT WAS THE FINAL VOTE? FOUR ONE 4 TO 1. THANK YOU. AND THE EXPLANATION FOR OPPOSING IS I WANTED MORE INFORMATION, THE CONTRACT TO SEE WHAT? WE COULD CERTAINLY GIVE YOU A COPY OF THE CONTRACT. SURE. I THOUGHT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER IF WE HAD IT BEFORE, BUT NONETHELESS, IT'S VOTED THROUGH. BUT I WOULD ASK MR. CLARK. I WOULD AGAIN ASK THAT CONSISTENT WITH NEW YORK STATE BEST PRACTICES, THAT YOU READ A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE RESOLUTION. I KNOW IT'S WHAT'S RECOMMENDED IN NEW YORK. I'M DOING THE BEST I CAN WITH WITH WHAT I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME TO TAKE ANYTHING THAT'S FRIVOLOUS OR SURE. AND I'LL CONTINUE TO.

I'D BE HAPPY TO HELP IF LIKE, NO, NO THANKS, I'LL DO MY BEST, THOUGH, I PROMISE. THANK YOU.

[4.6. POLICE-Out of Town Travel Request]

[01:05:04]

[4.7. POLICE-Out of Town Travel Request]

TOTAL COST OF 640. BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZED USE OF AN UNMARKED POLICE VEHICLE FOR TRANSPORTATION. MOTION APPROVED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 4.04.8 DISPOSAL OF

[4.8. POLICE – Disposal of Surplus Water Equipment]

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE FOLLOWING ASSETS SHALL BE DISPOSED OF IN ACCORDANCE WITH TOWN. TOWN SALE OF SURPLUS PROPERTY POLICY AS LISTED AND NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED. THE TOWN BOARD APPROVES RECEIPT OF THESE MONIES AND APPROVES THE TRANSFER OF THESE FUNDS TO BE 3120 .0411 TO BE USED FOR POLICE DEPARTMENT SUPPLIES. MOTION APPROVED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR?

[4.9. POLICE – Disposal of Surplus Workout Equipment]

[4.10. POLICE – PAF]

[4.12. MOA-Chief of Police]

[01:10:07]

YEAH, SO WHEN WE'RE MAKING THE BUDGET THEN FOR NEXT NOVEMBER, THERE'S LESS LIKELY THAT WE'LL BE PULLING OUR HAIR OUT TRYING TO BALANCE IT, GUESSING HOW MUCH WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY HIM.

RIGHT? CORRECT. OKAY. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT BETTER THAN I COULD. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, SO MR. BUKOWSKI MADE A MOTION TO TABLE. DO I HAVE A SECOND? YOU HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND. OKAY.

TO APPROVE FROM DAN WAS. I MADE THE MOTION. YOU HAD THE SECOND. OKAY. SO DO I HAVE A VOTE ON THAT MOTION APPROVED. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. MEGAN. YEP. OKAY. OKAY. OPPOSED? DAN. YOU WERE DAN WAS.

[4.13. Approve appointment of Assistant Code Enforcement Officer]

SALARY IS 34 PER HOUR. OKAY, WHERE'S MR. RICE TRANSFERRING FROM? OH MY GOD, YOU WANT TO STAND? MR. RICE, WE CAN WELCOME YOU THEN TO THE TOWN. LET'S PASS IT FIRST AND THEN WE'LL. YEAH. A MOTION TO APPROVE. WE GOT A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. YEAH. CARRY. ALL RIGHT. WELCOME.

TAKE A PICTURE ON YOU. TAKE A PICTURE? YEP. SURE, I CAN DO THAT. COME ON, LITTLE PHOTO OP.

COME UP HERE SO WE DON'T HAVE TO KNOW. IF HE STANDS RIGHT THERE. LOOK AT THIS. HE'S FALLING UP. I KNOW I DON'T. WE'RE GOING TO COME DOWN TO YOU, OKAY? YOU AND ME BOTH. I DON'T THINK I TAKE ENOUGH PHOTOS ON THIS BOARD. WE GOTTA GET, YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA GET. GO OVER THE BOARDS, FRANK.

PHOTOGRAPHER. GO OVER THE BOARDS. OH, YEAH. AM I ENTITLED TO WORKERS COMPENSATION IF I WERE TO GET INJURED? ABSOLUTELY NOT. YEAH. CONGRATULATIONS. CONGRATULATIONS. HE'S GOING TO STEP IN FRONT OF THE PODIUM, BIG GUY. THERE HE GOES. HE'S GOING TO PICK UP HIS. OKAY, I AM THE BRUTE SQUAD. ONE MORE PLEASE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. WE'LL SEND YOU THE HAMBURGER. EVERYBODY MOVE HERE HERE HERE, HERE. CONGRATULATIONS. CONGRATULATIONS. WE'LL BE SEEING YOU WORK A LOT WITH YOU GUYS. SO WELCOME ABOARD.

[4.14. Code Enforcement School]

[4.15. Amended Resolution to approve Verizon New York, Inc. cable franchise]

[4.16. Lake Shore Volunteer Fire Company Member Requests]

[01:15:12]

[4.17. Scranton Volunteer Fire Company Member Requests]

[4.18. Local Law #5, 2025 Adoption Resolution]

[4.19. 39 Long Avenue Building Demolition Bid Award]

[4.20. BOCES Volunteer Work Program Agreement]

WHEREAS TWO CCEEB WILL COMPLY WITH ALL TOWN INSURANCE, PROVIDE PROOF OF INSURANCE MEETING THE TOWN REQUIREMENTS, TRANSPORTATION AGREEMENTS, INITIAL ONE ON ONE TRAINING, ETC. NOW THEREFORE, IN CONSIDERATION OF THE GOOD AND VALUABLE CONSIDERATION OF LOW MUTUAL PREMIUMS CONTAINED HEREIN ONE. THAT THE TOWN SHALL PROVIDE VOLUNTEER WORK EXPERIENCE TO THE STUDENT AT THE TOWN OF TOWN OF HAMBURG. REC DEPARTMENT. MOTION APPROVED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR?

[4.21. Taylor Road Alcohol Waivers]

[4.22. Ice Rink Arena Phase 4 Sampling and Air Monitoring]

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, TOWN BOARD HEREBY AUTHORIZES A BUDGET AMENDMENT TRANSFERRING $970 IN GENERAL FUND CONTINGENCY TO CAPITAL PROJECT ACCOUNT WITH ACCOUNT NUMBERS IS LISTED SO MOVED SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. CARRIED 23 PO 17, CREATING FOUR ADDITIONAL MOTOR EQUIPMENT

[4.23. PO-17 creating four (4) additional Motor Equipment Operator positions for the Highway Department.]

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR AYE AYE. EMERGENCY PAY FOR DRIVER IN THE REC DEPARTMENT IS LISTED, SO

[4.24. Emergency PAF for a Van Driver in the Recreation Department]

[4.25. Emergency PAF for Senior Recreation Supervisor in the Recreation Department]

THEREFORE BE RESOLVED. TOWN BOARD APPROVES THE ATTACHED PAYOFF AS LISTED, SO MOVED SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. CARRY. EMERGENCY PAY FOR THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT BE

[4.26. Emergency PAF for the Recreation Dept.]

ALL IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. JUST DO THE WHOLE THING, DAN, FOR 27. EMERGENCY PAY FOR

[4.27. Emergency PAF for a Recreation Specialist in the Recreation Department]

[4.28. Youth, Recreation, & Senior Services PAF]

[01:20:01]

[4.29. Trade-In of Senior Transportation Service Vehicle]

[4.30. PAF for the Planning Department]

[4.31. B&G Revenue Account Transfer]

[4.32. B&G Steel Dump Body Purchase]

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE AYE. CARRY. B AND G Z TRACK PURCHASE. BE IT RESOLVED, THE TOWN BOARD

[4.33. B&G ZTrak Purchase]

[4.34. B&G PAF]

[4.35. Community Senior Center Rejection of Bids]

[01:25:04]

OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NUMBER 36 COMMUNITY CENTER. COMMUNITY SENIOR CENTER REBID.

[4.36. Community Senior Center Re-bid]

WELL, WE DO ALREADY HAVE A FIRST AND A SECOND, SO WE WILL NEED TO TAKE A VOTE ON THIS FIRST. BUT ALSO A COUPLE OF POINTS. AND I COULD GO ON FOR A VERY LONG TIME, BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED AND DISCUSSED WITH THE PUBLIC. THE PUBLIC REALLY HAS LED THE WAY DURING THIS ENTIRE PROJECT FOR YEARS PRIOR TO WHEN YOU JOINED THE BOARD. SO YOU MAY NOT REMEMBER SOME OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. THERE HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE PUBLIC HEARINGS. WHEN WE LISTENED TO THE PUBLIC, WHEN THEY SAID LOUD AND CLEAR, WE DO NOT WANT TO LEASE AGAIN, WHEN THE PUBLIC SAID, WE WANT YOU TO CONTINUE TO INVEST IN OUR SENIOR POPULATION AND THE YOUTH OF OUR COMMUNITY AND THE SERVICES, THE PROGRAMING AND THE IMPORTANT SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED BY OUR YOUTH REC AND SENIOR SERVICES DEPARTMENT, AND THAT THE BEST WAY FOR US TO CONTROL THE COSTS THERE. YOU KNOW, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY EXHAUSTING EVERY POSSIBILITY,

[01:30:02]

AND THE MESSAGE WAS LOUD AND CLEAR THAT KEEP INVESTING IN THESE IMPORTANT SERVICES AND WE DON'T WANT A LEASE. AND SO THIS OPPORTUNITY AFFORDS US TO BE IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT. WE'VE WORKED WITH OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR. WE KNOW THAT. THEN WITH THIS PARTICULAR FACILITY, WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE AN ASSET MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. WE'LL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THIS FROM A VERY FISCALLY SOUND POSITION WITH THE TAXPAYER IN MIND. OUR STAFF AND THE REAL ESTATE AGENT LOOKED EXHAUSTIVELY AT ALL OF OUR TOWN PROPERTIES AND ANALYZED THEM. IT WAS A VERY DIFFICULT DECISION THAT THE ENTIRE BOARD WAS PART OF, IN CONSENSUS BUILDING, THE ENTIRE PROCESS. THERE WERE MULTIPLE PUBLIC MEETINGS. THERE WERE MULTIPLE COMMITTEE MEETINGS. THERE WERE MULTIPLE SURVEYS THAT THE YOUTH AND SENIOR SERVICES DIRECTOR AND HER STAFF CONDUCTED. THEY'VE BEEN TALKING TO MEMBERS OF OUR SENIOR COMMUNITY AND OUR FAMILIES AND OUR YOUTH THROUGHOUT THAT ENTIRE, I THINK, WELL OVER THREE YEAR PROCESS. SO THERE HAS BEEN MUCH PUBLIC INPUT BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT PUBLIC PROJECT, SOMETHING THAT SHOULD REFLECT THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT THEIR WANTS AND DESIRES ARE AND WHAT THEY FEEL THAT THEY WANT TO BE INVESTING IN AS A TAXPAYER.

AND THEIR MESSAGING TO US WAS VERY LOUD AND CLEAR. SO WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND WE DO HAVE A SECOND. I WOULD LIKE TO I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO THAT. COUNCILWOMAN LORENZ, YOU SAID ABOUT 20 TIMES THE WORDS PUBLIC INPUT. YOU ALSO SAID THE COMMUNITY DEMANDED THIS PROJECT.

SO I HAVE A QUESTION. DO YOU THINK THE PUBLIC WANTS THIS PROJECT? I DO IT, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, OVER THE WEEKEND I AS YOU SAID, YOU TALKED TO PEOPLE. I WAS FLOODED WITH CALLS, PEOPLE WHO WERE AGHAST AT THE THOUGHT OF A REFERENDUM BECAUSE THEY HAVE WORKED ON THIS. THEY HAVE ASKED FOR THIS PROJECT FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS. AT THE ENTIRE TIME, THE COMMITTEES THAT MET THE OUR YOUTH AND SENIOR SERVICES DIRECTOR LED THOSE COMMITTEES. RECENTLY, SHE HAD A SERIES OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR TAXPAYERS TO COME IN AND RESIDENTS TO COME IN AND GIVE INPUT. SO YES, I DO. AS THE WOMAN WHO SPOKE EARLIER, I BELIEVE SHE SAID IT, THAT THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE A FACILITY FOR SENIOR SERVICES AND ALL OF THE SERVICES AND PROGRAMING THAT ARE THAT'S PROVIDED BY OUR YOUTH AND SENIOR SERVICES DEPARTMENT. SO IF YOU BELIEVE ACTUALLY, I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A FIRST AND A SECOND I WOULD LIKE TO I HAVEN'T FINISHED I WE HAVE A RIGHT TO DEBATE. IF YOU BELIEVE THAT THE PUBLIC WANTS THIS, THEN WHY ARE YOU AFRAID? NOT AFRAID AT ALL TO PUT IT UP FOR A REFERENDUM. AND I AND I ASK ALL MY BOARD MEMBERS, MISS. MISS COMERFORD, DO YOU SUPPORT A REFERENDUM ON THIS? I'VE HEARD YOU TALK ABOUT THIS NUMEROUS TIMES, OR THE PAST TWO BOARD MEETINGS, I SHOULD SAY. AND LIKE OTHER ISSUES EARLIER TONIGHT, YOU VOICE YOUR CONCERN AT THE 11TH HOUR. AND IT'S CONCERNING TO ME, BECAUSE IF WE DO DO A REFERENDUM, WHICH I'M NOT AFRAID OF, IT WILL DESTROY THE TIMELINE. THIS PROJECT, IF WE DO THE REFERENDUM, WE DON'T VOTE TILL NOVEMBER, PUSHES THE PROJECT OUT A YEAR AND A HALF FURTHER FROM WHERE WE ARE NOW. THESE SENIORS HAVE ASKED FOR IT. IT PUTS ME IN A GRAVE AREA CONCERN OF WHERE WILL WE PLACE THE SENIOR CENTER FOR THAT YEAR AND A HALF THAT WE HAVE UNACCOUNTED FOR TIME? WELL, WE HAVE, I THINK, ASKING FOR THE REFERENDUM AND CREATING A POSITION WHERE WE HAVE NO SENIOR CENTER FOR A YEAR AND A HALF IS A DANGEROUS POSITION TO BE IN. I DO NOT FIND THAT THEY ARE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE. FOR EXAMPLE, THE MCKINLEY MALL SITS VACANT RIGHT NOW. WE DON'T OWN WE ACTUALLY, WE ACTUALLY WENT ON SITE VISITS THERE. AND I DON'T BELIEVE YOU AVAILED YOURSELF. AND SO THERE ARE MANY THERE ARE MANY OTHER ALTERNATIVES TO JUST I IF YOU COULD COULD YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF. I BUT I HAVEN'T FINISHED. SO MY QUESTION IS IF YOU BELIEVE BACK TO MY COUNCIL MEMBERS, IF YOU BELIEVE THAT THE PUBLIC WANTS THIS

[01:35:03]

CARRIED. AND THANK YOU. OPPOSED? OKAY. PASSES 4 TO 1. OKAY. 4.37 37 NINE CFA ZONING, INDUSTRIAL

[4.37. Non-CFA Zoning Industrial Zoning District Code and Map Amendments Resolution]

[4.38. Highway Budget Amendment]

[4.39. Funding for continued Town Hall Renovation]

[01:40:09]

SO THESE ARE THE NEXT STEPS. BUYING THE DRYWALL AND THE FLOORING AND STARTING THAT. THE LUMBER FOR PUTTING. WHO TOLD US THE PROJECT IS GOING TO BE WHO'S THE ONE SAYING SAYING THAT IT'S GOING TO BE OVER BUDGET BECAUSE THIS RESOLUTION DOESN'T SAY WHO'S REQUESTING THIS MONEY? I BELIEVE THOSE QUOTES WERE PUT TOGETHER. MR. HUGHES, AND WERE ESTIMATED. WAS HE STILL THERE? IS THAT I BELIEVE THAT WAS INFORMATION YOU AND PAT RYAN PUT TOGETHER AND GOT OVER TO MR. SHEA. CORRECT. AND THE ESTIMATED FIGURES, FROM WHAT I REMEMBER AND HAVE SEEN IN PAST PRESENTATIONS, THE ASBESTOS ABATEMENT WE HAD TO DO WAS MORE SIGNIFICANT IN THE OLD DISPATCH AREA THAN WE INITIALLY ANTICIPATED. SO THAT DEFINITELY DROVE COSTS UP ON US, CORRECT? YEAH. THE INITIAL BIDS FOR THE DEMO AND ABATEMENT WERE OVER $100,000, AND THEN WE HAD TO ADDRESS SOME ADDITIONAL MATERIALS THAT WE FOUND IN THE AIR MONITORING ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. SO THAT RIGHT THERE CHEWED UP A LARGE PORTION OF OUR BUDGE. AND COMPLETION OF THIS PROJECT WILL ALLOW US TO ENSURE PUBLIC SAFETY AS WE TRANSITION THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE COMING BEFORE THE COURT, THEY WILL HAVE AN AREA, AND THEY WILL HAVE AN AREA WITH AN ADA BATHROOM SO THAT THEY CAN BE. PROCESSED THROUGH TO THE COURTS EFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY. AND THEN IT ALSO ALLOWS US TO CAPITALIZE ON USING PREVIOUSLY UNUSED SPACE WITHIN THE TOWN HALL. CORRECT. THE ENTIRE TIME I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE TOWN, THAT SPACE HAS BEEN IN SHAMBLES AND STILL SET UP AS THE OLD CELLS FROM WHEN IT WAS OLD DISPATCH. ALSO, THE HOLDING CELL WAS A SINGLE ROOM. THE ONLY ACCESS TO BATHROOM WAS WITHIN TOWN HALL. SO THIS WILL THEY WILL USE A SIDE ENTRANCE. THEY WILL HAVE TWO HOLDING CELLS THAT CAN DO MALE AND FEMALE. THEY WILL HAVE A BATHROOM THAT WILL BE DEDICATED TO THOSE PERSONS. THEN WE WILL USE THE OTHER SPACE USED FOR CONFERENCE, OFFICE, ETC. AND ALLOW FOR THE USE OF THAT SPACE. AND KNOW THAT IT'S A ABATED AND ASBESTOS FREE. YES. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY DAN KOZUB, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FARRELL, TO MOVE THIS RESOLUTION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? OKAY. NUMBER 40,

[4.40. Village of Blasdell Appointment-Castiglia]

[01:45:01]

[4.41. Non-CFA Phase 1 Zoning Code Amendments Resolution]

THAT THE TOWN HAMBURG TOWN BOARD AMENDS THE HAMBURG TOWN CODE AS FOLLOWS AS LISTED. SO MOVED.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. CARRIED. 42. NONE CFA LAKEVIEW COMMERCIAL DISTRICT CODE AND MAP

[4.42. Non-CFA Lakeview Commercial District Code and Map Amendments Resolution]

[4.43. Authorizing Funding for Capital Deficits]

TOWN HALL 88. BATHROOM. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD HEREBY AUTHORIZES THE APPROPRIATION AND TRANSFER OF $48,044.23 FROM THE GENERAL FUND UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE AS LISTED TO THE FOLLOWING CAPITAL PROJECTS ACCOUNTS TO ELIMINATE THEIR RESPECTIVE DEFICITS AS LISTED, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, TOWN SUPERVISOR FINANCE DEPARTMENT ARE HEREBY AUTHORIZED TO MAKE ALL NECESSARY BUDGET AMENDMENTS AND ACCOUNTING ENTRIES TO EFFECTUATE THIS RESOLUTION. SO MOVED. SECOND, AND THE QUESTION IS THIS RELATED TO THE PREVIOUS MOTION? RESOLUTION? THIS IS HIGHWAY GARAGE OKAY. THESE ARE COMPLETELY SEPARATE. SEPARATE AS FAR NOW AS FAR AS THE. BATHROOM. WAS IT JUST $721 OR IS THE. NO. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. YOU JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING THAT'S OFF TO ZERO AT THE END OF THE DAY CAPITAL ACCOUNT. OKAY. DO WE KNOW WHY THE INCREASE TO THE HIGHWAY GARAGE IMPROVEMENTS. WE CAN DIG UP SOME OF THE DETAILS. BUT ESSENTIALLY THE PROJECT STARTED WITH THE $2.5 MILLION RENOVATION OF THE BUILDING. SO. THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY THAT GOES INTO. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. CARRY OPPOSED? WE HAVE ONE LATE ADDITION RESOLUTION. SOMEONE MAKE A MOTION TO

[Additional Item]

IT'S JUST NOT IN IT. I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK AND AMEND THAT. IT'S THE LEGAL. WHAT'S YOUR ACCOUNT NUMBER. IS IT THE 100 LINE. LEGAL. IT'S FOR CINDY CONLIN. SO IT'S PART TIME SO. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE IT LISTED. SO THAT THOUGHT YOU MIGHT. ASK. DISBURSEMENTS. ALL RIGHT. SO THE VOTE DO WE VOTE ON IT OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR. ALL IN FAVOR. AYE AYE. AND THERE'S TWO AUDITS OF CASH DISBURSEMENT OKAY. FIRST ONE 3,285,458 19. MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE OKAY. AND SECOND ONE OPPOSED. 4109 98. MOTION APPROVED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? FAVOR. AYE. DISBURSEMENTS. OKAY. AGAINST THAT ONE TWO. OKAY. OKAY. ALL

[5. Public Comment]

[01:50:05]

MATEO. I LIVE ON ASHLAND COURT IN HAMBURG. WE HAVE HAD NUMEROUS MEETINGS WHERE THE PLACE WAS FULL OF MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY EXPRESSING HOW IMPORTANT THE COMMUNITY CENTER IS. WE KEEP SAYING SENIOR CENTER, BUT IT'S COMMUNITY CENTER, RIGHT? SENIOR. AND THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE THAT USE WE'RE USING THAT BUILDING ON A DAILY BASIS THAN I THINK ANYBODY HERE REALIZES OVER 350 PEOPLE A DAY. PERHAPS THERE'S A PERSONAL REASON MR. BUKOWSKI DOESN'T LIKE THE NIKE BASE, BUT THE BOARD HAD DROPPED THE BALL ON THIS. YOU KNEW WHEN THE TIMELINES WERE COMING, YOU KNEW WE NEEDED ANOTHER PLACE AND IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. AND NOW YOUR FEET ARE REALLY TO THE FIRE. ALSO, I THINK SOME TRANSPARENCY IS DUE FOR THE FACT THAT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T DO THIS, WHEN THE CONTRACT, WHEN OUR LEASE WAS UP, IT HAS COST THE TAXPAYERS A LOT OF MONEY ALREADY. AND I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO SPEND A LOT MORE MONEY ON RENT AND PAYING FOR FRONTIER TO RENT, AS WE'VE DONE, AND WE NEED TO GET THIS DONE AND GETTING IT DONE NOW. IS THERE'S NOT EVEN A CHOICE. WE NEED TO GET THIS DONE. YOU KEEP TELLING US ABOUT LANCASTER. YOU TELL US ABOUT WEST SENECA. DO YOU WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THE FACILITIES ALL THOSE PLACES HAVE YOU WANT TO BE THE ONLY ONE THAT DOESN'T HAVE A COMMUNITY CENTER, ANY PLACE FOR THE KIDS IN THE SENIORS? THAT'S RIDICULOUS. WE HAVE PUT IT OFF LONG ENOUGH. AND YES, YOU'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT, TO KNOW THAT THE LEASE WAS UP, WE WERE UNDER THE GUN. WE HAD TO FIND A PLACE. DID YOU ATTEND ANYTHING WHEN THEY WERE GOING TO LOOK AT ALL THESE OTHER PLACES? THEY LOOKED AT THE MALL, THEY LOOKED AT MICHAELS, THEY LOOKED ALL AROUND. DID YOU ATTEND? I WOULD CAUTION YOU TO. THERE'S INDIVIDUAL BUSINESSES. AND SOME OF THOSE MATTERS WERE DISCUSSED PRIVATELY. AND I WOULD CAUTION YOU ON YOUR COMMENTS. I KNOW THAT YOU ARE A LIFELONG MEMBER OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, AND I'M A REPUBLICAN, AND I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED THAT YOU WOULD CRITICIZE ME. BUT THAT'S YOUR RIGHT. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH POLITICS, AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHY YOU'RE BANNED FROM THE NIKE BASE. MR. PAWLOWSKI, I AM NOT I AM NOT BANNED FROM THE NIKE BASE. SINCE YOU GOT ON THE BOARD. THEY HAD TO LET YOU BACK IN, DIDN'T THEY? THAT THAT IS I WOULD BE CAREFUL. AS AN ATTORNEY, YOU WOULD KNOW THAT'S SLANDEROUS AND DEFAMATORY. IT WAS NEVER IT NEVER HAPPENED. IT NEVER HAPPENED, NEVER HAPPENED. NEVER. I WOULD CAUTION YOU BECAUSE THIS IS A PUBLIC SETTING, AND I BELIEVE YOU'RE AN ATTORNEY. AND BY SAYING SOMETHING SLANDEROUS TO ME, YOU WOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. I WOULD ACCEPT AN APOLOGY RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE THAT IS THAT IS FALSE. IT'S ALSO A RECKLESS DISREGARD FOR THE TRUTH. IT IT IS NOT A RECKLESS DISREGARD FOR THE TRUTH. AND IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING FROM VARIOUS SOURCES THAT IT IS TRUE. I WILL PUT IT IN, I WILL PHRASE IT THAT WAY. THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING. YOU'LL BE HEARING FROM MY ATTORNEY BECAUSE THAT IS FALSE. I SAID, IF MY UNDERSTANDING SAYS OTHERWISE, YOU YOU ARE YOU ARE ENGAGING IN DEFAMATORY, FALSE STATEMENTS. MY I'M ENTITLED TO AN OPINION THAT THAT MIGHT BE WHY YOU DON'T WANT IT AT THE NIKE BASE, BUT YOU, AS A MEMBER OF THIS BOARD, HAVE NOT DONE ANYTHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. THAT HAS BEEN A VERY PRESSING ISSUE FOR SOME TIME FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. YOU'RE ALL ABOUT SAVING THE TAXPAYERS MONEY. WELL, THIS THIS DELAY HAS COST THE TAXPAYERS A LOT OF MONEY. AND WE NEED THIS FACILITY AND WE NEED IT NOW. WE HAVE DONE SURVEYS OF THE TOWN. THE TOWN HAS THE TOWN RESIDENTS HAVE EXPRESSED HOW IMPORTANT RECREATION IS OR THE OTHER SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER. IT HAS BEEN DONE, AND THE TOWN HAS SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ON THOSE SURVEYS. I BELIEVE IN THE PUBLIC, I BELIEVE DEMOCRACY, AND I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT MY COLLEAGUES HERE ARE AFRAID OF A REFERENDUM. BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. I DON'T THINK THEY'RE AFRAID OF A REFERENDUM.

I THINK THEY UNDERSTAND THE POSITION WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW, AND THEY'VE ALREADY HEARD THE TOWNS, THE RESIDENTS POSITIONS ON THIS PROJECT AND THE FACT THAT IT IS NEEDED, THEY'LL VOTE FOR IT. AND I BELIEVE MY COLLEAGUES HAVE GONE ON RECORD BEING AFRAID OF A REFERENDUM. I BELIEVE BEFORE YOU SPEND TAXPAYER MONEY THAT THE PEOPLE SHOULD DECIDE. YOU DISAGREE WITH ME. MY COLLEAGUES DISAGREE WITH ME. 4 TO 1 AND YOU'RE STANDING UP HERE BEATING UP ON ME. THEY ALL VOTED FOR IT, OKAY? I VOTED AGAINST IT, AND I, I YOU'RE AGAINST THE FACILITY. NO, I AM NOT, I AM NOT I AM ASKING THAT IT BE DONE PROPERLY THAT THE VOTERS DECIDE BECAUSE THIS IS LIKELY TO RAISE TAXES.

[01:55:05]

SIR, I DO NOT WORK FOR THE RECREATIONAL. YOU DID AND DID NOT KNOW. WELL, YOU HAD NEVER BEEN EMPLOYED. YOU'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH IT, AND YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE, AND I RESPECT THAT. BUT I WOULD ALSO CAUTION YOU, BEFORE YOU SLANDER SAYING THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN BANNED FOR THE NIKE BASE. YOU HAVE NO BASIS OF KNOWLEDGE FOR THAT. YOU HAVE NOTHING IN WRITING, AND IT'S SLANDEROUS. AND YOU WILL BE HEARING FROM MY, MY ATTORNEY BECAUSE IT IS FALSE.

AS I SAID, I'LL PHRASE IT IN THE WAY THAT YOU CAN APOLOGIZE NOW FOR LYING IN PUBLIC. I IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING I WILL. THAT'S WHAT I WILL NOT. IF YOU APOLOGIZE FOR LYING IN PUBLIC, THAT I WILL NOT SUE YOU RIGHT NOW. APOLOGIZE. FRANK, THIS IS A PUBLIC MEETING. CAN WE GET BACK TO THE MATTERS OF THE TOWN? YEAH. YEAH, WELL, SHE ATTACKED ME PERSONALLY. CAN WE GET BACK TO THE MATTER? CAN YOU ASK HER TO NOT ATTACK ME PERSONALLY? CAN WE GET BACK TO THE MATTER? IS IT YOUR POSITION THAT YOU THINK WE SHOULD WASTE MORE TAXPAYER MONEY DELAYING THIS? WHY DIDN'T YOU BRING UP A YEAR AGO? TWO YEARS AGO, WHEN YOU. ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO, WHEN YOU GOT ON THE BOARD THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A REFERENDUM. THEN WHY AT THE LAST MINUTE? EVERYTHING HAS TO BE THE LAST MINUTE WITH YOU. I READ THIS AGENDA ON FRIDAY. APPARENTLY YOU READ IT TONIGHT.

WHY? THAT IS NOT TRUE. AGAIN. AGAIN? YOU SLANDERED ME, I SAID. APPARENTLY. WHY DO YOU ALWAYS BRING EVERYTHING UP AT THE LAST MINUTE? OH, WE GOT TO DELAY THIS. I DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION. YOU THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN PRESSING FOR EVER. WE'VE BEEN COMING TO THESE MEETINGS TALKING ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO DO, AND NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DELAYING IT MORE. THAT'S GOING TO COST THE TAXPAYERS A LOT MORE MONEY. HOW MUCH DOES IT COST US ALREADY? BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T WE WEREN'T PREPARED FOR THE TIME WHEN THE LEASE WAS OVER. HOW MUCH IS IT THAT WAS ON YOUR PARTY WHEN RANDY HOAK OFF THE SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS IN FRONTIER, WHO I TALKED TO THAT SAID HE WAS PERSONALLY INSULTED BY MR. HOAK THE SAME WAY THAT YOU'RE PERSONALLY ATTACKING ME BECAUSE YOU DISAGREE WITH MY POSITION. YOU'VE NOW PERSONALLY ATTACKED ME BECAUSE YOU DISAGREE POLITICALLY WITH WHAT I FEEL, AND YOU'RE GOING TO PERSONALLY ATTACK WHAT POLITICAL PARTY I'M IN. I'VE NEVER RUN FOR OFFICE IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG. I HAVE NEVER EVEN BEEN A COMMITTEE PERSON IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG. I'M HERE AS A COMMUNITY MEMBER, A REPRESENTATIVE? YES, I'VE BEEN ON THE RECORD. THREE MINUTES ARE UP, MA'AM. THEY HAVE RULES. YOU'VE SPOKEN FOR LONGER THAN THREE MINUTES. I'D ASK THAT YOU SIT DOWN. AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR INPUT. AND YOU WILL BE HEARING FROM MY ATTORNEY. WOW, WHAT A WORKOUT TODAY, MARGARET VANARSDALE. HI, MRS. VANARSDALE AND I HAVE TO GET THIS DONE. TRUST ME, I DON'T REALLY FEEL LIKE IT, BUT OKAY. I THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME OF PUBLIC EXPRESSION AND SHARING. I AM AN ADVOCATE FOR SAVING THE BAYVIEW HOTEL, AND I'D LIKE YOU TO BE THE FIRST TO HEAR ABOUT A NEW GROUP CALLED THE FRIENDS OF THE BAYVIEW HOTEL, AND OUR FACEBOOK PAGE WILL ENCOURAGE THE COMMUNITY TO SHARE PHOTOS AND MEMORIES OF TIME SPENT AT THIS POPULAR, POPULAR, ICONIC PLACE. THIS LANDMARK IS WOVEN INTO THE FABRIC OF OUR TOWN IDENTITY. I LIVE STEPS AWAY FROM THE BAYVIEW HOTEL. I ENJOY ITS PRESENCE HERE, AND A LOT OF US DRAW COMFORT FROM THE FAMILIAR BUILDING. AND I STAND BEFORE YOU NOT ONLY AS A CONCERNED CITIZEN, BUT AS A STEWARD OF OUR SHARED HISTORY. THE BUILDING IN QUESTION IS NOT MERELY A STRUCTURE, IT'S A VESSEL OF MEMORY, A STORYTELLER, A SILENT WITNESS TO GENERATIONS WHO CAME BEFORE US. YES, MAINTENANCE COSTS MONEY. YES, PROGRESS IS IMPORTANT. BUT COMPASSION ASKS US TO PAUSE, TO CONSIDER THAT OUR PROGRESS CAN INCLUDE PRESERVATION. THAT DEVELOPMENT DOES ALWAYS, DOES NOT ALWAYS MEAN DESTRUCTION. THAT FUTURE GENERATIONS DESERVE TO INHERIT. MORE THAN PHOTOS IN A MUSEUM. THEY DESERVE TO TOUCH THE SAME HANDRAILS, HEAR THEIR FOOTSTEPS, ECHO ON THE SAME FLOORS, AND FEEL THE SAME PRIDE IN THEIR ROOTS, AND ENJOY A DRINK AT SUNSET. THERE IS POWER IN SAYING WE CHOOSE TO CARE, THAT WE VALUE SOUL AS MUCH AS STRATEGY AND COMPASSION MEANS CHOOSING HERITAGE ALONGSIDE HOUSING HISTORY ALONGSIDE INNOVATION. SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO SHARE YOUR MEMORIES OF THE BAYVIEW ON OUR NEW FACEBOOK PAGE. AND AGAIN, I SUPPORT ITS CONTINUED PRESENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANKS, MARGARET. MARGARET, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT TO THE HAMBURG

[02:00:09]

AND THEN WOULD YOU LET THE GENTLEMAN FINISH? YEAH. THEN. THEN WE HAVE TO. THEN THE VOTERS CAN SIGN A PETITION, WHICH IS A VERY LOW THRESHOLD, LET'S SAY A THOUSAND VOTES. THEN IT WILL HAVE TO GO TO REFERENDUM. AT THAT POINT. I'VE TALKED TO THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS IN HAMBURG WHO WANT THIS TO GO TO REFERENDUM, BECAUSE THEY WANT A VOTE ON THE SENIOR CENTER, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON TAXES. IT'S A 30 YEAR BOND, PROBABLY, THAT YOU'RE GOING TO INITIATE AT A HIGH RATE OF INTEREST. AND LET'S FACE IT, ONCE YOU BUILD IT IN 25 TO 30 YEARS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO A ROOF, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO WINDOWS. THERE'S GOING TO BE MAINTENANCE COSTS AS OPPOSED TO JUST RENTING A FACILITY. SO JUST BECAUSE YOU DO YOUR BIDS AND YOU PASS IT, I HAVE A STRONG NETWORK THAT ARE GOING TO GET THESE SIGNATURES, AND THIS IS GOING TO GO TO A PUBLIC REFERENDUM NO MATTER WHAT, 100%. SO YOU CAN VOTE FOR IT NOW AND GET IT DONE AND PUT IT TO THE PUBLIC AND TRUST THE PUBLIC. IF THEY WANT IT, THEY WILL BUILD IT, OKAY, AND THEY WILL FUND IT. IF THEY DON'T, THEN YOU FIND ALTERNATIVES. YOU LEASE A SPOT AND YOU RENOVATE IT, JUST LIKE YOU DID AT FRONTIER, WHICH WAS A GREAT FACILITY. OKAY. AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED? WHAT HAPPENED WAS YOU DIDN'T HAVE YOUR RENEWAL. NOW WE'RE LOOKING FOR ANOTHER PLACE IN TEN YEARS. NO, YOU. SO DO YOU WANT TO PUT THE CITIZENS IN ANOTHER SITUATION WHERE THEY HAVE TO DO THIS EVERY TEN YEARS? PICK UP AND MOVE. PICK UP AND MOVE. I DON'T THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY ELECTED ME TO DO. THEY ELECTED ME TO DO SOME TOUGH DECISIONS. AND THIS IS MY DECISION. IF YOU THAT'S YOUR DECISION IF YOU WANT TO BRING IT UP FOR REFERENDUM, IF YOU WANT TO BRING THE REFERENDUM, WELL, GOD BLESS YOU. YOU WANT YOUR PET PROJECT HERE GUYS. IT'S GOING TO GO TO THE PUBLIC. THE CITIZENS ARE GOING TO VOTE ON IT. I'M ASKING YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND ALLOW THE CITIZENS TO VOTE. THIS IS THIS IS ABOUT A $10 MILLION PROJECT, MAYBE MORE.

OKAY. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO OWN FOREVER. EVEN MARK POLONCARZ IS GETTING OUT OF THE LANDLORD BUSINESS WITH THE STADIUM. HE WANTS TO GET OUT OF KEYBANK CENTER, BUT YET YOU WANT TO GET INTO IT AND YOU WANT TO BUILD A MASSIVE FACILITY THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAINTAIN PRETTY MUCH FOREVER AT A TAX BASE. AND WE DO NEED A SENIOR CENTER AND A YOUTH CENTER. I AGREE WITH THAT. BUT TO FUND IT, WITHOUT GOING TO A PUBLIC REFERENDUM WITH SUCH A HIGH DOLLAR AMOUNT IS IRRESPONSIBLE, I FEEL, AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE FEEL THAT WAY. IT'S GOING TO BE VERY EASY TO GET THESE SIGNATURES IN 30 DAYS. ONCE YOU PASS YOUR BONDING RESOLUTION, YOU KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE VERY EASY AND THEN YOUR PROJECT IS GOING TO BE RAILROADED BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HOLD A SPECIAL ELECTION, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T VOTE ON IT, I THINK THE THRESHOLD IS 90 TO 105 DAYS BEFORE THE ELECTION. WE'RE AT 92 DAYS. YOU HAVE TWO DAYS TO SEND THIS TO PUBLIC REFERENDUM. IF YOU DO NOT DO THAT, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH YOUR PROCESS. YOU'RE GOING TO BID IT OUT, OKAY, AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO ISSUE YOUR BOND. THEN THERE'S A 30 DAY HOLD. I'M GOING TO GET MY SIGNATURES. THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HOLD A SPECIAL ELECTION. AND THAT'S GOING TO GO INTO NEXT YEAR BEFORE YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. SO IF YOU DON'T DO IT NOW, WE'RE GOING TO FORCE THE ISSUE NEXT YEAR. AND I'M NOT DOING THIS TO HURT THE SENIORS. I'M DOING IT FOR THE TAXPAYERS. APPARENTLY YOU'RE DOING IT FOR SOME REASON. I KNOW YOU'RE UP FOR REELECTION AND YOU KEEP THROWING MY NAME OUT ON FACEBOOK AND ELECTION FOR ELECTION. YES. SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ME ON FACEBOOK, GET YOUR STORY STRAIGHT, BECAUSE UNLIKE YOU, I TELL THE TRUTH. WHEN YOU SAID I WAS A LIFELONG DEMOCRAT, I NEVER WAS A LIFELONG DEMOCRAT. I WAS A CONSERVATIVE BEFORE I WAS A DEMOCRAT, NOT A POLITICAL DISCUSSION. I'M TALKING HERE. SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ME ON FACEBOOK, GET YOUR STORY STRAIGHT. WHEN I RAN FOR OFFICE, I LET EVERYBODY KNOW WHERE I WAS, WHAT I DID AND WHAT I AND WHAT I DO. YEAH. WELL, LET ME ASK YOU THIS. SURE. OKAY. OKAY. POLITICAL STUFF. CAN I GET SENIOR IN THE FUNDING? COUNCILMAN CAROL LAWRENCE, YOU HAD MENTIONED BEFORE WHEN YOU WERE ASKED ABOUT PUBLIC REFERENDUM. YOU SAID THERE HAD BEEN A PROCESS AND SEVERAL MEETINGS AND SURVEYING DIFFERENT AREAS. CAN YOU ELABORATE AGAIN ON THAT? BECAUSE I JUST WANTED SURE, I'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. BUT I ALSO OUR DIRECTOR OF YOUTH AND SENIOR SERVICES IS HERE, AND

[02:05:06]

THERE'S BEEN MULTIPLE EVENING SESSIONS. WE'VE DISCUSSED IT AT MULTIPLE TOWN BOARD MEETINGS. SO THE ENTIRE PROCESS, AS WE'VE WORKED THROUGH IT, WE'VE IT HAS COME UP AT TOWN BOARD MEETINGS.

THE TOWN BOARD ITSELF HAS PARTICIPATED IN YEARS OF LOOKING THROUGH THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

AND I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY SOMEONE JUST GETTING INVOLVED IN THE TOPIC NOW MAY NOT UNDERSTAND ALL OF THE NUANCES AND ALL OF THE WORK AND ALL THE ASPECTS THAT GO INTO THIS PROJECT, BECAUSE WHEN WE FIRST STARTED OUT, I DON'T THINK ANYONE HERE KNEW WHAT WAS GOING TO BE THE BEST SOLUTION FOR THE TOWN. AND WHAT WE QUICKLY FOUND OUT IS BEING IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT WAS DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY A PREFERENCE. WHEN WE LOOKED AT, WE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT MANY WITH THE HELP OF REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONALS AND OTHER PROFESSIONALS, OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT, ETC. WE LOOKED AT A MULTITUDE OF ACTUALLY, I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT THE PUBLIC.

MR. COLLINS, WOULD YOU MIND, ARE YOU FINISHED WITH YOUR COMMENTS AND THEN I'LL FINISH I AM I'M NOT FINISHED. OKAY. I WAS JUST TRYING TO SEE I WAS TRYING TO SEE PATTY IS I KNOW I WAS TRYING TO SEE PATTY AS AS I WAS SPEAKING WITH HER AND THE REST OF OUR THE PUBLIC HERE. THE COST. THERE'S A LOT OF COSTS THAT GO INTO THE PROJECT. AND THERE'S A LOT OF WHAT WE CALL OFFSETS. SO FOR EXAMPLE, THERE ARE COSTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE SAVED EVERY YEAR. FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU ADD UP THE LEASE PAYMENTS, IF YOU ADD UP MAINTENANCE, SOME OF THE INFORMATION WE RECEIVED FROM OUR VARIOUS DEPARTMENT HEADS IS THAT THE CONSOLIDATION OF MORE SERVICES ON THIS PARTICULAR TOWN FACILITY SITE WOULD RESULT IN SAVINGS. IT WOULD RESULT IN A DEFINITE CONTROL OF EXPENSE IN TERMS OF MAINTENANCE, ETC. FOR THE YEAR TO YEAR OPERATION OF THE BUILDING. THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF BUILDING THAT WAS CHOSEN IS BECAUSE OF THE WARRANTY AND THE GUARANTEE THAT IT HAS, SO THAT WE CAN PLAN. OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR HAS BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY WITH US TO SET UP THESE TYPE OF ASSET MANAGEMENT PLANS, SO THAT WE CAN PLAN BETTER FOR THE DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT OPERATIONAL EXPENSES. AND AGAIN, GOING BACK, THERE'S MANY OFFSETS THAT WILL OCCUR SO THAT THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT DOES HAVE TO BE BONDED. WE ARE ALSO GOING OUT. WE'VE BEEN SEEKING FUNDING, TALKING TO OUR LEGISLATIVE PARTNERS. SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK, AND WE WOULD HAVE WELCOMED HELP FROM ALL OF THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AS WE AS WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS. BUT THOSE OF US WHO WERE HERE AND WILLING TO STEP UP, WE DID EVERYTHING THAT WE COULD. WE LEFT NO STONE UNTURNED BECAUSE WE DID NOT KNOW WHAT THE BEST ANSWER WAS WHEN WE STARTED. BUT AGAIN, WE ENLISTED THE HELP OF THE PUBLIC PROFESSIONALS STAFF.

COMMUNITY ADVISORS. WE'VE IT WAS AN ARDUOUS PROCESS, AND ULTIMATELY WHAT WE ARRIVED AT WAS THIS DECISION, AND IT WAS IN CONVERSATION WITH THE ENTIRE BOARD, EVERY STEP ALONG THE WAY.

SO THERE WAS NO BOARD MEMBER THAT WAS LEFT OUT OF THE CONVERSATION. AND THIS WAS THE DECISION THAT WE ARRIVED AT THAT ALLOWED US TO CONTROL COST AND ALSO BE ABLE TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE. SO PATTY DID THAT. DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? THANK YOU. ALSO. THAT WAS YES, THERE WAS A COMMITTEE INITIALLY. JILL, DID I LEAVE ANYTHING OUT? I'M SORRY, BECAUSE YOU REALLY WERE SO INVOLVED WITH THIS EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. NO, THE TRANSITION COMMITTEE IS GOING TO BRING UP THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS WHEN I MEAN, IT WAS CAME AND DID THEIR PRESENTATION. OH, THAT'S RIGHT, WE HAVE A MEETING RIGHT AFTER THE WORK SESSION AND BOARD MEETING THAT DAY. WE HAVE ABOUT 194 SURVEYS THAT WE HANDED OUT TO EVERY SINGLE SITE IN TOWN. THAT INITIAL MEETING THAT WE HAD AT THE SENIOR CENTER. AND THEN AFTER THAT WE DID DO ON FACEBOOK, I BELIEVE, IN THE SONG WE ACTUALLY PUT OUT THE SURVEY AS WELL TO ACTUALLY THINK ABOUT THAT. SO WHAT I'M HEARING FROM MY COLLEAGUES, SOME ARE MORE DIRECT, SOME ARE LESS DIRECT, BUT THAT IF COUNCILWOMAN LORENZ IS CORRECT, THAT THERE'S JUST OVERWHELMING PUBLIC SUPPORT, THEN I JUST SIMPLY ASK, IF YOU'RE SO CONFIDENT, THEN PUT IT FOR A PUBLIC REFERENDUM. THAT'S IT. THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING ON

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SO IT'S BUT YOU'RE AWARE OF THE PERMISSIVE REFERENDUM. SO IT'S PART OF THE BOND PROCESS. EVERY TIME WE DO WHERE IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, THAT'S OKAY. THAT SOUNDS LIKE A THREAT TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT I, I DON'T THINK SO. I MEAN, I'VE TALKED TO THOUSANDS, THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS AND THEY ALL THEY WANT IS THEY WANT IT TO GO TO A PUBLIC REFERENDUM AT THIS NOVEMBER 4TH ELECTION.

THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT. YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE DON'T WANT IT. I GET IT. THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT IT AND I RESPECT THAT AND THAT THAT'S THE BEAUTIFUL THING ABOUT DEMOCRACY. SO THAT THAT WAY IF IT GOES TO THE PUBLIC VOTE, PEOPLE SHOW UP TO VOTE AND IT PASSES OR IT DOESN'T PASS.

AND I WOULD HOPE THAT ALL OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS WOULD TAKE IT UPON THEMSELVES TO BECOME AS WELL EDUCATED ON EVERY ASPECT OF THIS PROJECT, AS MANY OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PRESENT HERE, AND MANY OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE WORKED TIRELESSLY, TIRELESSLY FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS, BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF INFORMATION AND IT'S A VERY NUANCED, COMPLEX CONVERSATION THAT TO JUST THROW DOWN THE GANTLET LIKE THAT AND TRY TO DIVIDE OUR COMMUNITY, I DON'T THINK IS NECESSARILY HELPFUL EITHER. I KNOW YOU PUT A LOT OF TIME INTO IT. THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE ARE EMPLOYEES OF THE TOWN. ACTUALLY, HERE'S THE THING. I UNDERSTAND YOU PUT A LOT OF TIME INTO IT. THIS IS WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE DID. A LOT OF PEOPLE, NOT JUST ME. AND YOU SPENT MONEY ON THIS THING. BUT DON'T FORGET, YOU KNOW, THE GOVERNMENT, THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE IS NOTORIOUS FOR THIS. THEY SPEND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON A PROJECT YEARS AND YEARS DEVELOPING WEAPONS AND TECHNOLOGY, AND THEN THEY ABANDON THE PROJECT.

SOMETIMES YOU DO SOMETHING, IT DOESN'T WORK OUT, AND YOU MOVE ON. IT'S JUST WHAT HAPPENS. THAT WAS SIMILAR TO THE PROCESS WE USED WHEN WE ELIMINATED MANY OF THE THINGS WE LOOKED AT, WHETHER IT WAS FACILITIES OR OTHER BUILDINGS TO REHAB, THAT WAS PART OF THAT VERY LONG PROCESS.

I'M JUST ASKING YOU TO PUT UP THE PUBLIC VOTE. THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING. PUBLIC VOTE. MY VOTE IS NO. IT'S GOING TO COST US TO DELAY AND HOW MUCH IT WILL COST. HAVE YOU LOOKED AT HAVE YOU LOOKED AT EVERY SINGLE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IN THE TOWN AND EVERY COMMERCIAL PARCEL WE HAVE? WE'VE ANALYZED IT WITH PROFESSIONALS LIKE OUR ENGINEERING STAFF AND OUR PLANNING STAFF. HAVE YOU YOU CAN TALK DOWN TO ME ALL YOU WANT. I'M NOT TALKING DOWN TO YOU. I'M STATING A FACT. YEAH. SO. ALL RIGHT, I SAID WHAT I SAID. YOU GUYS WON'T PUT IT, I APPRECIATE IT. YES, I CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. THANK YOU, MR. COLLINS. UNLIKE A LOT OF FOLKS WHO WANT TO SAY YES. HEY, SOMEBODY AT THE. UNLIKE A LOT OF FOLKS WHO'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON THIS AND TRY TO THROW A ROADBLOCK UP AT THE LAST MINUTE, SOME OF US HAVE BEEN HERE AT TOWN BOARD MEETINGS FOR YEARS AND HAVE OBSERVED THE WORK DONE BY THE TOWN BOARD MEMBERS, WHO HAVE PUT OUT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF EFFORT TO GET THIS DONE, AND THROWING UP A ROADBLOCK RIGHT NOW, OBSTRUCTING THIS FOR ANOTHER YEAR AND A HALF AT THE COST OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, IS NOTHING MORE THAN POLITICAL GRANDSTANDING. AND I THINK IT'S TIME THAT WE TAKE A STAND AND

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YOU KNOW. NO. MR. MR. CORBETT DROPPED THE F BOMB AT ME AND TOLD ME TO F MYSELF. AND THAT IS INAPPROPRIATE. BELIEVE ME, SIR, I HAVE BEEN. I HAVE ALREADY BEEN F BOMBED BY AN ENTITY IN THIS PARTICULAR ROOM IN A PUBLIC FORUM. ALREADY, WHEN I QUESTIONED SOMEONE'S PARTY AFFILIATION AND IT DIDN'T EXACTLY THROW GLORY ON THE MARINE CORPS. CAN WE? ANYBODY ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT? ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC? DEPARTMENT HEADS? ALL RIGHT. NOW DEPARTMENT HEADS. DEPARTMENT. CAN WE GIMME, GIMME.

I WANTED TO UPDATE THE BOARD ON THE MUNSTER ROAD BRIDGE. THE INTENT OF THE CONTRACTOR WAS TO FINISH THE END OF JULY. THEY HAVE ASKED FOR THREE ADDITIONAL WEEKS. THE GOOD NEWS IS THERE HAS BEEN EXTREME PROGRESS IN THE LAST MONTH. MONTH AND A HALF. EXCUSE ME. THE CULVERTS ARE IN.

THEY ARE LINED. THEY HAVE BEGUN BACKFILLING. THEY HAVE ADDRESSED THE DAMAGE GABION WALL. THEY HAVE BUILT THREE OF THE RETAINING WALLS. THEY HAVE STARTED TO BRING IN THE LARGE STONE TO STABILIZE THE SITE. WE ARE VERY HOPEFUL THAT BY YOUR NEXT MEETING, I WILL HAVE NEWS ON A COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT. I KNOW THAT'S FIVE WEEKS NOW, WHICH MAY SEEM LIKE A LOT, BUT HAVING BEEN OUT TO THE SITE, I'M FINALLY FEELING COMFORTABLE SAYING I'VE SEEN SIGNIFICANT ADVANCEMENT IN PROGRESS IN THE PROJECT. SO BY THE TIME MAYBE COLUMBUS DAY WEEKEND, WELL, THE CURRENT PLAN IS TO THREE WEEKS FROM TODAY, IF THAT DOES HAPPEN, WOULD MAKE ME VERY HAPPY. CAN YOU PLEASE MAKE SURE TO LET FRONTIER SCHOOLS KNOW? BECAUSE THAT WILL IMPACT BUSSES IMMENSELY. IMPACT BUSSES. AS SOON AS I HAVE A MORE OF A DETAIL ON PAVEMENT AND PAVEMENT MARKINGS. OKAY, I WILL BE SURE TO SPEAK BOTH WITH OUR HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT, THE SCHOOLS, AND TRY TO MAKE IT PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE REACHED OUT TO ENGINEERING MANY TIMES ASKING FOR SCHEDULES. I KNOW THEY'RE WORKING DILIGENTLY ON THEIR BUS SCHEDULES, AND I'D HATE TO THROW THAT WRENCH IN AT THE LAST MINUTE. ALTHOUGH IT WOULD BE A WELCOMED WRENCH. I'M SURE IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL, BUT OKAY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU.

CAMI, WOULD YOU JUST TAKE A MOMENT ALSO AND QUICKLY UPDATE ON CLARK AND MCKINLEY? BECAUSE ALSO WITH THE FAIR COMING AND WITH SCHOOLS, THE SAME THING. I KNOW WHEN WE'VE MET, THE LAST TIME WE HAD CONSIDERATION FOR THE SCHOOL SCHEDULE THAT'S COMING UP SOON. CORRECT. SO THE FIRST THING RELATED TO THAT IS THAT THE CONTRACTOR HAS KNOWN FROM THE START THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO WORK DURING THE FAIR, SO THE SITE SHOULD BE CLEANED AND BUTTONED UP. THERE MAY BE SIGNS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN IN CONSTRUCTION, BUT THE SITE WILL BE SAFE AND NO CONSTRUCTION WILL BE GOING ON DURING THE FAIR. THAT CONTRACTOR HAS MADE PROGRESS. WE FINALLY HAVE A DELIVERY DATE FOR SOME OF THE CONTROL PANELS RELATED TO THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND PEDESTRIAN SIGNALS THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN, WHICH I BELIEVE IS THIRD WEEK OF AUGUST AS WELL. THEY ARE LOOKING TO FINISH THE WORK BY THE BEGINNING OF OCTOBER, AND THEY HAVE BEEN PROGRESSING WELL BASED ON THEIR INITIAL SCHEDULE. THAT DID PROVIDE US THAT OCTOBER DEADLINE. SO ONCE THE FAIR COMPLETES, THEY WILL THEY HAVE AN IMMEDIATE PLAN TO START BACK UP AND GET MORE FEATURES IN.

THEY WOULD LIKE TO GET THE SIDEWALKS FINISHED AND THE RAMPS, AND THEN THE PEDESTRIAN

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FOR AUGUST, OUR PLANNING BOARD MEETINGS WILL BE AUGUST 6TH AND AUGUST 20TH. I ALSO WANTED TO ALERT NOT THE BOARD, NOT ONLY THE BOARD, BUT ALSO THE PUBLIC, THAT THERE WERE A COUPLE RESOLUTIONS ABOUT SOME DIFFERENT ZONING ITEMS THAT ARE COMING UP ON SEPTEMBER 8TH, WHICH IS THE NEXT TOWN BOARD MEETING, SIMILAR TO WHAT I DID LAST TIME. I WILL BE OUTSIDE OF THE FOYER WITH SOME BOARDS AND SOME MAPS AND SOME FIGURES GOING OVER SOME OF THOSE ZONING CODE AMENDMENTS JUST TO UPDATE THE PUBLIC AND ANYONE THAT'S WILLING TO COME OUT AND WANTS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT. LIKE I SAID, WE'RE IN THE STAGE OF UPDATING OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF HOT BUTTON ITEMS THAT HAVE COME TO THE TOWN BOARD FROM NOT ONLY BOARD MEMBERS THEMSELVES, BUT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC RELATED TO THINGS LIKE CAR WASHES, PRIVATE RENTAL STORAGE, APARTMENTS, USES AND DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS, INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICTS. AND WE'VE FINALLY STARTED TO DEVELOP SOME CODE AMENDMENTS THAT I THINK WILL ADDRESS A LOT OF THOSE THINGS THAT THE PUBLIC HAVE BROUGHT UP. OF COURSE, WHEN WE BRING THESE UP, THERE'S GOING TO BE A PUBLIC HEARING AT THE TOWN BOARD LEVEL. BUT BEFORE WE REACH THAT PLACE, I'D LOVE FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO COME OUT, ASK ME QUESTIONS, GIVE THEIR INPUT ON SOME OF THOSE BOARDS BECAUSE THIS ISN'T A DONE DEAL. WE'RE NOT JUST PUTTING THESE CODE AMENDMENTS JUST TO RUSH THEM THROUGH. WE'D LOVE PUBLIC INPUT. WE'RE ALSO GOING TO GET PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDATIONS. SO THERE WILL BE AT THE PLANNING BOARD ON AUGUST 6TH AS WELL. SO THERE'LL BE A NUMBER OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALL THESE ZONING CODE AMENDMENTS, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THEY BEFORE THEY GET ISSUED. I KNOW I GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT, ESPECIALLY WHEN EVERY TIME WE REZONE PROPERTY IN TERMS OF NOTIFICATIONS, WHO'S GOING TO BE ALERTED, WHAT THAT WILL MEAN FOR PEOPLE'S PROPERTY. AND WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO GET CAUGHT OFF GUARD. SO I ENCOURAGE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO COME OUT, LEARN WHAT THE REZONINGS ARE, GIVE THEIR INPUT, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO UPDATE THE BOARD ALONG THE WAY. THANK YOU. CAN WE PUT THOSE ZONING CHANGES UP FOR REFERENDUM? NO COMMENT. YEAH, THOSE. PLANNING BOARD IN SEPTEMBER 8TH FOR THE TOWN OF THE BAKER. CAPTAIN JOHN BAKER FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HERE ON BEHALF FOR CHIEF DIENES. THE FAIR'S IN TOWN. SO THE FIRST DAY IS WEDNESDAY. OBVIOUSLY, WE CAN EXPECT AN INCREASE IN TRAFFIC THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE TOWN. WE GENERALLY OUR OFFICERS WILL HANDLE OVER 3000 CALLS A MONTH ON AVERAGE. THAT CALL VOLUME USUALLY SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASES DURING THE TOWN. THE GUYS DO A GREAT JOB AND I WOULD EXPECT THEM TO DO A GREAT JOB AGAIN FOR THESE 12 DAYS. ON A SIDE NOTE OF CRIME, VEHICLE OR VEHICLE THEFTS CONTINUES TO BE A CRIME OR A PROBLEM THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

HERE IN THE TOWN AS WELL. I WOULD DO A FRIENDLY REMINDER TO THE PUBLIC PLEASE LOCK YOUR VEHICLE DOORS. DON'T LEAVE YOUR KEYS IN THE CAR. WE ARE NOW HAVING THEFTS OCCUR AT FOUR AT 4:00 PM 5:00 PM IN BROAD DAYLIGHT. CARS ARE BEING STOLEN FROM DRIVEWAYS, VEHICLE BUSINESS PARKING LOTS ON ROUTE 20. SO A FRIENDLY REMINDER. PLEASE LOCK YOUR VEHICLES, DON'T LEAVE YOUR KEYS IN THE CAR AND ENJOY THE FAIR. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. JUST ON THAT NOTE, I AGREE, AND WE'RE ACTUALLY CHECKING MORE IN TOWN BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY HAD ONE OF THE VEHICLES THAT WAS STOLEN WAS RIGHT FROM OUR GOLF COURSE, I BELIEVE AT 3 OR 4 IN THE AFTERNOON, THE GENTLEMAN DID LEAVE HIS DOOR OPEN AND HIS KEYS IN. SO THAT'S KIND OF ON HIM. BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY DID FIND IT THE NEXT DAY. BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE WE'VE BEEN PUTTING IT OUT. SO I AGREE THAT YOU DEFINITELY SHOULD BE MORE CAREFUL BECAUSE IT WAS TOWN PROPERTY, MIDDLE OF THE DAY, VERY CROWDED. ON A HAPPY NOTE, I WOULD JUST LIKE EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT MR. JOHN PEASE, WHO IS THE HUSBAND OF THE WOMAN THAT UNFORTUNATELY PASSED AWAY WHEN THE HOME EXPLODED, HAS OFFICIALLY TAKEN HIS FIRST STEPS TODAY. WE DID SEE A VIDEO OF IT AT THE CENTER. SOMEONE BROUGHT IT IN, SO WE ARE VERY EXCITED. WE'RE GOING TO BE STARTING, YOU KNOW, SOME SORT OF COLLECTION OR SOMETHING FOR HIM SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HELP HIM OUT WHEN HE GETS BACK HOME. BUT I JUST WANTED EVERYBODY TO KNOW HE HAS TAKEN HIS FIRST STEPS. AND HE ACTUALLY LOOKED PRETTY HAPPY TODAY. SO THANK YOU. GREAT. THANK YOU OKAY. GOOD EVENING I WANT TO START OFF WITH HIGHWAY ZONE ONE BRUSH. SO MAKE SURE YOUR BRUSH IS OUT THERE AS OF THIS MORNING. IF YOU MISS IT LOOK FOR A TAG. WE'LL COME BACK WITH THE GRAPPLE AND WE'LL GRAB IT OUR AGE TEN I DID BRING IT UP AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING. DID COME BACK. WE'RE GOING THROUGH IT RIGHT NOW. THE FINAL PRICE IS GOING TO BE $28,936.17, WHICH WAS PICKED UP BY NEW ENTERPRISE. SO THE TOWN, THEY TOOK FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE WHOLE INCIDENT. AND THEY THEY DID PICK UP THE TAB FOR THAT. SO

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PAVING IS OVER FOR THE YEAR. SO WE'LL HAVE A FINAL REPORT THAT RELEASE. BUT HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF THE WEEK WHAT ROADS GOT PAVED AND HOW MUCH AND EVERYTHING. SO BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE SAID, WELL WHY AM I ROADS NOT GETTING PAID EVERYTHING. SO I'M JUST PUTTING OUT A REPORT SAYING THIS IS THIS IS THE MONEY I HAVE. THIS IS THE MONEY THAT WE ALLOCATED TOWARDS THE ROADS. AND THESE ARE THESE ARE THE REASONS WHY WE PICK THESE ROADS. SO HOPEFULLY IT'LL PUT A LOT OF THAT TO REST. REMEMBER MONDAY AND THURSDAYS THERE'S A IS OUR ELECTRONIC DROP OFF. PLEASE STOP BY AND DROP OFF YOUR TVS OR WHATEVER YOU GOT ELECTRONIC WISE IS THAT THAT IS THAT IS GOING EXTREMELY WELL STILL. AND WE STILL HAVE MULCH AND COMPOST STILL THERE. AND THANK YOU FOR THE BOARD FOR PASSING THAT RESOLUTION TONIGHT ABOUT THE FOUR MEAL DRIVERS. SO ALL YOU TO DO IS JUST INCREASE MY FLEET. SO I HAVE DOWN THE LINE I HAVE THE CAPABILITY. NOW I HAVE TO COME BACK NOW THAT I CAN PROMOTE GUYS FROM IN WITH GUYS WITH LICENSES SO THEY CAN BECOME DRIVERS, FULL TIME DRIVERS. SO THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S A HUGE BONUS. SO THANK YOU.

BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS JUDGING WITH THIS LAST STORM CAUSED A LOT OF SAND TO COME IN. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DREDGE. SO I HAD TO WAIT TILL AFTER AUGUST 1ST BECAUSE DEC MANDATES THAT WE HAVE TO WE CAN ONLY DRESS TO A CERTAIN TIME BECAUSE OF THE FISH SPAWN AND EVERYTHING. SO WE WILL BE THROUGH SHARED SERVICES. I DID REACH OUT TO EVANS AGAIN. THEY'RE GOING TO BRING THEIR GRADE ALL DOWN BECAUSE OUR GRADE IS BEING USED, USED TO DO OUR OWN DRAINAGE. SO THEY'RE GOING TO BRING IT DOWN. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE ONE SIDE A LITTLE BIT. SO WE'LL GIVE US A LONG HOPEFULLY A LONGER SEASON FOR BOATING. THE ADA BATHROOMS THAT WERE DOWN AT THE TOWN PARK WE HAD, THEY HAD TO BE REMOVED. THEY WERE DAMAGED AGAIN. WE TRIED TO WE TRIED THE KEY THING, TRY TO GET A KEY. YOU HAD TO GET A KEY. FOR SOME REASON, THE SAND IS GETTING DOWN INTO THE PUMPS AND CAUSING THE PUMPS TO STOP THE WORK. THE PUMPS ARE ABOUT $8,000 TO REPLACE THE PUMPS, SO SAND IS LIKE SAND IN A CAR. IT JUST DOESN'T WORK SO THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE OUT GETTING REPLACED. AS SOON AS THEY'RE DONE, THEY'RE GOING TO BE THEY'RE GOING TO BE TAKEN BACK.

WE WOULD PUT BACK IN SERVICE FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR. AND THE LAST THING I GOT IS A KUDOS GO TO OUR GROUNDS CREW OUT AT THE NIKE BASE. THE LACROSSE HAD A BIG, BIG TOURNAMENT OUT THERE OVER LAST WEEKEND. AND IT WAS IT WAS A LAST MINUTE THING. THEY ASKED IF WE COULD PUT UP SOME EXTRA NETTING AND STUFF, BECAUSE THEY WERE AFRAID ABOUT SOMEBODY GETTING HIT BY A CROSS BALL. SO GUYS WENT UP AND BEYOND AND THEY GOT ALL THE NETTING UP AND IT WORKED OUT GREAT. SO THAT'S IT.

THEY DID A GOOD JOB. ON GETTING THE PIER BACK INTO WITH THE BOAT LAUNCH. OH YEAH. YEAH. BECAUSE THAT BIG WINDSTORM THAT WE HAD. YEP. DRAGGED IN ONE OF THE LIFEGUARD SEATS AND THEN. YEAH SCREWED THAT UP. THAT WAS WE HAVE EXTRA PARTS FOR THAT. SO THAT WAS THE. THAT'S EASY. BRIAN STEWART'S ONE OF OUR OUR MAIN GUYS THAT DOES ALL THE WELDING STUFF AND THE MAINTENANCE CREW FROM BEING THEY ALL CAME TOGETHER AND THEY GOT IT. THEY GOT IT UP AND RUNNING. SO YEAH, THEY GOT IT. THEY GOT IT. SO WE COULD KEEP MOVING. SO YEAH, GREAT JOB BY BEING. THANK YOU.

IT WAS A NICE JOB THAT THEY DID TOO FOR THE BLAST ON THE BEACH. YES. YEAH. I'VE GOT SORRY I DIDN'T MEAN TO STEP ON YOUR APPLAUSE I REALLY APOLOGIZE. REAL QUICK. HUNTING LICENSES AND PERMITS ARE ON SALE STARTING AUGUST 1ST. I WANT TO THANK ENGINEERING FOR THEIR HELP. THEY WERE ABLE TO MAKE SOME BIG COPIES OF THE. THE MAP AND DOE PERMIT ZONES FOR US. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. AND WE'RE GOING TO BE BEGINNING A HANDING OUT PRE-PAID MAIL, PREPAID ENVELOPES FOR MEDICAL PRESCRIPTIONS THAT ARE NO LONGER NEEDED BY FOLKS. WE LOOKED INTO KIOSKS AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY MAN THEM. THERE'S A LOT MORE RESPONSIBILITY INVOLVED WITH IT. AND FRANKLY, IT JUST WASN'T REALLY CONDUCIVE FOR OUR SITUATION. SO THE MAILING PREPAID ENVELOPES SHOULD I THINK THEY'LL BE PRETTY POPULAR. WE GET QUITE A FEW PEOPLE ASK FOR IT. SO AND ALSO JUST WANTED TO CONGRATULATE EVERYONE ON A GREAT JOB AT BLESSING THE BEACH.

LAURA. FANTASTIC JOB AGAIN, EVERYONE ON YOUR COMMITTEE AND SO GREAT WORK. CAN'T WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR. OKAY ANYBODY ELSE? BOB MAHONEY ANYTHING ON GARBAGE? DON'T DO IT, BOB.

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PEOPLE ARE CALLING DAN AND MYSELF. WE'RE FIELDING TONS OF PHONE CALLS THAT THERE'S SOME MYSTERY OUT THERE. WHO WON THE AWARD? MODERN AWARD WON THE AWARD JANUARY 23RD, 2025. THE.

WE'RE SUPPOSED TO SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT WE'RE NOT SURE WHEN. WE'RE WAITING FOR THE DISTRICT MAPPING TO GET DONE. AND THE ESTIMATE WAS SOMETIME IN SEPTEMBER, BUT WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. BUT WE WANT TO DO A PUBLIC HEARING. THAT WAS A QUESTION MARK, SCHEDULING FOR OCTOBER. SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING. HOA'S ARE BEING INCLUDED IN THIS GARBAGE THING. I'VE REACHED OUT TO SOME.

I'VE ALREADY SET UP MEETINGS WITH SOME OF THE HOAS. IF ANY OF THEM ARE LISTENING ON THE LIVE STREAMING THAT, PLEASE CONTACT THE OFFICE. WE'RE EXTENSION DAN COATS HAVE EXTENSIONS 223, THREE. AND WE'LL FIELD THOSE CALLS AND I'LL MEET WITH ANY GROUPS, ANY NEIGHBORHOODS, ANYONE TO DISCUSS IT. WE'RE ONLY GOING TO MAX IS FOUR UNIT FOUR FOUR UNITS. THERE'S A MAX. A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT. SO THAT'S KIND OF AN UPDATE. LET'S SEE. MODERN WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR TOTES. SO. OH, THE TIME THAT THIS IS GOING TO GO IN MODERN HAS REQUESTED FOR AN EXTENSION. AND WE HONORED IT BECAUSE IT MADE SENSE BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO DO A LOT OF LEGWORK, A LOT OF RELOCATING TOTES TO ANY NEW CUSTOMERS COMING IN BECAUSE THE OTHER PROVIDERS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO REPLACE THEM. SO THEY ASKED, SO IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETIME EARLY 2026. SOME PEOPLE ARE PUTTING OUT RUMORS OUT THERE. IT'S GOING TO BE DEFINITELY IN JANUARY. IT'S EARLY 2026. THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK. THERE WE GO. YEAH. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE. AND WE'LL START WITH YES. I HAVE NO REPORT OTHER THAN TO REQUEST IF THIS IT'S THE BOARD'S PREROGATIVE. EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS A EXTENSION OF A LEASE OF REAL PROPERTY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT THEN WE'LL FINISH WITH THE REPORTS FROM THE BOARD. COUNCILMAN BUKOWSKI. THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR. I'M VERY HAPPY THAT THE BOARD PASSED AN INCREASE IN THE PARKING FEES FOR THE FOR THE BEACH. I GET CALLS REGULARLY FROM PEOPLE. I DID WRITE A LETTER TO THE CHIEF ASKING FOR STEPPED UP ENFORCEMENT. AND I'M GOING TO WRITE ANOTHER LETTER ASKING THAT THEY START TOWING CARS. I THINK THAT WE SHOULD SEND A MESSAGE.

EVERYONE I TALK TO IS IN FAVOR IN FAVOR OF ENFORCING THOSE RULES. SO I'M GOING TO ASK THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO STEP UP AND HELP US OUT. I KNOW THAT SOME ENFORCEMENT HAS BEEN STEPPED UP LATELY, AND IT'S WHAT THE CITIZENS WANT, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK TO BE DONE. AND I'M PROUD THAT WE'RE ABLE TO GET THAT DONE QUICKLY. I DID ASK FOR $300, BUT IT'S A COMPROMISE.

IT'S POLITICS. AS FAR AS POLITICAL DISCOURSE. I'M A LITTLE BIT SAD, BUT NOT SURPRISED. NELSON MANDELA, THE GREAT NELSON MANDELA, SAID WHEN I WAS A BOY, I PLAYED RUGBY AND THAT WAS A TOUGH SPORT. AND THEN I GOT INTO POLITICS. SO I'VE SAT HERE. MR. KOSSEF HAS TOLD ME, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'LL BE ON TAPE SOMEWHERE F MYSELF AND F YOU, BECAUSE HE DISAGREED WITH WHAT I HAD TO SAY, AND THAT'S FINE. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT WE'RE ALL BETTER. BETTER FOR THE CITIZENS THAN TO ENGAGE IN SUCH PETTY STREET TALK. I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE. AS FAR AS AND DEMATTEO WHO LEFT HERE LIKE A COWARD BECAUSE SHE PROBABLY DIDN'T WANT TO HEAR WHAT I HAD TO SAY, TO SAY THAT I'VE BEEN BANNED FROM THE NIKE BASE IS RIDICULOUS. MY. MY SON PLAYS FOR THE HAMBURG MONARCHS SOCCER TEAM. I'VE COACHED WITH THAT ORGANIZATION AT THE NIKE BASE.

MY DAUGHTER, MY DAUGHTER HAS PLAYED WITH THE MONARCHS, ALSO WITH LAKEVIEW SOCCER. MY DAUGHTER'S ALSO PLAY. THERE'S THE THERE'S THE HAMBURG KNIGHTS LACROSSE. I'VE ALSO SKATED ON THAT RINK AT THE NIKE BASE SINCE I'VE BEEN FIVE YEARS OLD. SO FOR HER TO COME HERE BECAUSE SHE DISAGREED WITH WHAT I SAID, WHICH IS WHAT I SAID, WAS I WANTED THERE TO BE A REFERENDUM

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THREE MINUTES. ARE YOU. ARE YOU ON THE BOARD? I HAVE TEXT MESSAGE FROM YOU TO MISS CRITICIZING ME. SO IF YOU IF YOU WANT ME TO READ THAT THREE MINUTES. SO BOTTOM LINE IS I WOULD ASK MY COLLEAGUES, INCLUDING MR. KOSSEFF, NOT TO ENGAGE IN CONDUCT, NOT TO TELL ME TO F MYSELF BECAUSE THEY DISAGREE AND BE PROFESSIONAL. AND I WOULD ASK THE CITIZENS AGAIN TO DEBATE POLITELY AND NOT ENGAGE IN PERSONAL ATTACKS. I DO KNOW WHAT THIS JOB IS ALL ABOUT, AND I BELIEVE THAT IF I'M GETTING SOME CRITICISM, THAT'S OKAY. BUT I WOULD ASK PEOPLE TO FOCUS ON THE ISSUES FOR THE TOWN AND NOT PERSONAL ATTACKS. MR. YEAH, YEAH. FRANK, I, I THINK EVERY TIME YOU CONTACT EVERYBODY HERE, YOU'VE BEEN PUTTING OUR TOWN ATTORNEY DOWN. YOU'VE BEEN PUTTING OTHER BOARD MEMBERS DOWN. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S OKAY FOR YOU TO INTERRUPT PEOPLE, BUT SOMEBODY INTERRUPTS YOU WHEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE SPEAKING, YOU'RE YOU'RE FREE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.

YOU KNOW, YOU TALK ABOUT THE DEMOCRACY AND EVERYTHING. I WAS ELECTED TO MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS.

AND ONCE AGAIN, MY DECISION IS TO MOVE AHEAD WITH THE SENIOR CENTER, COMMUNITY CENTER, COMMUNITY SENIOR, WHICHEVER WAY YOU WANT TO PHRASE IT AND MOVE FORWARD. IF YOU AND MR. JOSH COLLINS WANTS TO GO AHEAD AND DO A REFERENDUM, THAT'S, THAT'S THAT'S ON YOU GUYS. YOU KNOW, I'M HERE TO DO A JOB AND I INTEND ON DOING IT. YOU KNOW, YOU TALK ABOUT THE TAXPAYERS, THE TAXPAYERS. I DON'T SEE YOU GIVING UP ANY OF THE TAKEN ON CASES IN HAMBURG WHERE THE JUDGES HAVE TO SEND THAT STUFF OUT TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IN THE TOWN, LOSES MONEY ON THAT, BUT THAT'S OKAY. ANYWAYS, I, I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY. OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN COMERFORD SURE. A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANTED TO BRING UP, I WANTED TO. I WANTED TO SAY THAT I BELIEVE THE YOUTH IN OUR COMMUNITY THIS WEEKEND HAVE SHOWN US THAT THERE IS SOMETHING TO BE HOPEFUL FOR IN OUR COMMUNITY, THAT IF WE CAN HOPE TO BE LIKE THEM, WE ARE IN GOOD HANDS BECAUSE THEY ARE SOME INCREDIBLE CHILDREN THAT WE'RE RAISING THIS COMMUNITY. AND I TRULY BELIEVE AS A MOTHER AND AS A TEACHER AND AS A RESIDENT IN THIS COMMUNITY, IT'S A GROUP EFFORT TO GET THESE KIDS TO ADULTHOOD AND THRIVING AND SUCCEEDING. AND HAMBURG, THERE ARE DAYS WHERE I'M LIKE, WE ARE, WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE'VE GOT IT DOWN. SO TO THAT REGARD, I WANTED TO THANK LIAM TO LOU ON HIS EAGLE SCOUT PROJECT. MY BOYS ARE ALL BOY SCOUTS. I'VE SEEN LOTS AND LOTS OF EAGLE SCOUT PROJECTS. THIS IS PERHAPS ONE OF THE MOST CREATIVE I'VE EVER SEEN. AND TALK ABOUT A YOUNG MAN REALLY THINKING ABOUT PRESERVING HISTORY AND MAKING SURE WE CAN LEARN FROM THOSE THAT HAVE COME BEFORE US, AND WHAT HAS MADE OUR COMMUNITY GREAT. THROUGH SAINT JAMES UNITED CHURCH OF CHRIST, THEIR CEMETERY, HE TOOK IT UPON HIMSELF TO ORGANIZE A GROUP OF PEOPLE, RESTORE HEADSTONES. AND THEN HE TOOK IT A STEP FURTHER. SO BEYOND CLEANING AND RESTORING AND FIXING, WHICH IS ALL HIGHLY COMMENDABLE AND PROBABLY WOULD HAVE EARNED AN EAGLE SCOUT AWARD IN ITS OWN RIGHT. HE THEN RESEARCHED AND WITH A GROUP OF PEOPLE RESEARCHED THOSE HEADSTONES THAT HE FIXED, PUT QR CODES SO THAT PEOPLE WITH THEIR TECHNOLOGY COULD THEN SCAN AND LEARN MORE. JUST WOW. JUST ABSOLUTELY WOW. I WASN'T ABLE TO ATTEND HIS OPENING BECAUSE I WAS WITH MY DAUGHTER, BECAUSE THE SAME WEEKEND WE HAD NUMEROUS THINGS GOING ON IN OUR OWN LIFE.

HAMBURG PLAYED HOST NOT ONLY TO A ENORMOUS LACROSSE TOURNAMENT, BUT LAST WEEKEND WE PLAYED HOST TO AN ENORMOUS SOFTBALL TOURNAMENT, WHICH IS A HUGE, HUGE DEAL FOR OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE WOMEN'S SPORTS HAVEN'T ALWAYS BEEN RECOGNIZED AND HAVEN'T ALWAYS BEEN SUPPORTED THE WAY MALE SPORTS HAVE. AND TO HAVE ONE OF THE BEST ATTENDED TOURNAMENTS IN THE AREA HAPPEN IN OUR BACKYARD LAST WEEKEND. NOT THIS PAST WEEKEND. WEEKEND. PREVIOUS. ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE.

IT WAS SO NICE TO SEE TEAMS FROM ALL OVER WESTERN NEW YORK COME IN AND I HEARD SO MANY TIMES,

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ALSO, YOUTH REC AND SENIOR SERVICES. FOR THE SECOND YEAR IN A ROW. I GOT TO SEE YOUR INCREDIBLE PLAY PUT ON AT HILBERT COLLEGE. TALK ABOUT AN OPPORTUNITY TO FOR US TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY. WE PACKED THAT AUDITORIUM. I COULD NOT BELIEVE IT. MY SON WAS CAPTIVATED. WE SAW SEA MONSTER SUMMER. IT WAS A HAMBURG ORIGINAL. HE THOUGHT IT WAS PHENOMENAL. HE WAS ACTUALLY REALLY INTO, I HAVE TO ADMIT, THE SEA MONSTER. SO KUDOS TO YOUTH AND SENIOR SERVICES FOR EMBRACING THE YOUTH OF OUR COMMUNITY, ENCOURAGING THEM TO DREAM BIG, TO REALLY LOOK BEYOND THEIR IDEAS THAT THEY HOLD AND REALLY WORK AS A COLLECTIVE GROUP. BECAUSE THAT PROJECT WAS ABSOLUTELY BROUGHT ON BY A GROUP OF KIDS AND A GROUP OF YOUTH REC SENIOR SERVICES WORKING TOGETHER, AND IT WAS SO HEARTWARMING TO SEE THE FAMILIES CHEERING FOR THEIR KIDS. SO THAT WAS MY HOPEFULNESS FOR THE COMMUNITY AND MY HOPEFULNESS FOR THE FUTURE, THAT IF THIS IS WHAT WE'RE CREATING, WE'RE DOING OKAY, HAMBURG, WE JUST GOT TO KEEP OUR KEEP OUR HEAD DOWN AND KEEP WORKING HARD. I ALSO WANTED TO BRING TO LIGHT THAT THE ERIE COUNTY FAIR IS STARTING ON WEDNESDAY. LIKE CAPTAIN BARKER SAID, MISTER O'CONNELL, YOU'RE NOT KEEPING TRACK OF THIS SPEECH. THANK YOU FOR REMINDING US ALL THAT THE ERIE COUNTY FAIR STARTS ON WEDNESDAY. TO THOSE OF YOU IN THE COMMUNITY THAT SUFFER WITH PTSD OR HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS WITH SIGNIFICANT SENSORY ISSUES, PLEASE BE AWARE THAT EVERY NIGHT OF THE FAIR FOR ABOUT TEN MINUTES THERE ARE FIREWORKS. SO PLEASE SECURE YOUR ANIMALS. WE HAVE DIFFICULTY WITH FIREWORKS.

PREPARE A PLAN OF HOW YOU'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THAT. I KNOW GIVEN MY DAY JOB, SENSORY ISSUES ARE A REAL THING AND WE PREPARE AND WE PRACTICE AND WE MAKE PLANS. SO JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER THAT ERIE COUNTY FAIR DOES HAVE FIREWORKS EVERY SINGLE NIGHT. FINALLY, I WANTED TO THANK JOSH FOR ALL OF HIS WORK ON THE ZONING CODE AMENDMENTS. I AM GOING TO FEVERISHLY. THE COMMUNITY ACTIVIST IN ME IS ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE COME OUT. WE HAVE WRECKED OUR BRAINS WHEN WE'RE DOING ZONING CODE CHANGES TO THINK OF ANYTHING THAT COULD POSSIBLY FACILITIES COULD BE USED FOR AND WHAT IT MIGHT ENTAIL AND WHAT IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE AND HOW IT MIGHT IMPACT. BUT WE DON'T HAVE FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE OF SOME OF THESE COMMUNITY OR THESE ACTIVITIES AND THESE PROFESSIONS AND THESE COMMERCIAL USES OR INDUSTRIAL USES. SO PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, IF YOU HAVE BEEN TO A COMMUNITY AND YOU SAW SOMETHING YOU LOVE, COME AND TELL JOSH. IF YOU'VE BEEN TO COMMUNITY AND YOU'VE SEEN SOMETHING YOU HATE, PLEASE COME AND TELL JOSH IT IS. THE SINGLE BEST WAY WE CAN LEARN IS BY BUILDING OFF OF OTHER PEOPLE'S SUCCESSES AND FAILURES. I GOT A CELL NUMBER IF ANYONE NEEDS IT, JOSH WILL BE HERE. THE PUBLIC HEARING, I BELIEVE, IS SEPTEMBER 8TH. PLANNING BOARD WILL BE TALKING MORE ABOUT ON AUGUST 6TH, BUT I PLEASE ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME OUT. AND THEN FINALLY LABOR DAY. LABOR DAY FOR ME. I'M SORRY. YOU'RE ABOUT DOUBLE THE TIME. I KNOW THE AUDIENCE IS GOING TO CRITICIZE ME. WE DON'T HAVE ANY TIME LIMITS FOR BOARD MEMBERS, SO I'D LIKE WE DO HAVE A THREE MINUTE. NOT FOR IT IS IT IS IN THE. IT IS IN THE RULES. I'D LOVE TO HEAR WHAT OUR COUNCIL MEMBER HAS TO SAY. WITH LABOR DAY COMING, I KNOW IT IS THE END OF SUMMER FOR MOST, BUT IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY AS A COLLECTIVE GROUP TO APPRECIATE ALL THAT LABOR HAS GIVEN US. IF YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE LUNCH DURING AN EIGHT HOUR SHIFT, THINK LABOR. IF YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EARN OVERTIME AT YOUR JOB, THINK LABOR. IF YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ASSURED THAT YOUR 12 YEAR OLD CHILD DOES NOT HAVE TO WORK HEAVY MACHINERY, THINK LABOR.

ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE TAKE FOR GRANTED WERE GIVEN TO US BY LABOR. MANY OF US ARE STARTING TO EXPERIENCE THE JOYS OF PATERNITY LEAVE. YOU BETTER BELIEVE THAT WAS FOUGHT FOR BY LABOR THINGS THAT ARE NOW BECOMING MORE COMMONPLACE WERE NOT ALWAYS COMMONPLACE. SO JUST USE THAT MOMENT AND REALIZE WE HAVE A LOT TO THANK THIS COUNTRY FOR. AND IT'S ALL DUE TO THE FORMATION OF LABOR UNIONS AND WHAT THE LABOR UNIONS HAVE DONE TO GET US WHERE WE ARE. AND WITH THAT, I'M DONE. THANKS, FRANK. I'M UP NEXT. AND SO IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I WILL JUST SAY THANK YOU FOR TOUCHING ON MANY OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO GO OVER. SO THAT WAS GREAT. I YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT OBSERVING, WHETHER IT'S THE FAIR OR IT IS LABOR DAY OR ANY OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU SAID, THANK YOU. SO I'LL JUST TRY TO BUILD UPON THAT. GOD BLESSED IN THE BEACH.

WELL, WE'VE WE I THINK WE ALREADY DID THANK FOR BLESSING ON THE BEACH. BUT YOU CAN NEVER

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WE'VE TALKED ABOUT EVERYTHING FROM RECONFIGURING OUR ENTRANCE AND OUR EXITS TO THE TICKETS FOR HOW, YOU KNOW, WE USE OUR GREETERS. I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT MANY DIFFERENT ASPECTS. SO THANK YOU FOR THEIR TO THEM, FOR THEIR ONGOING INPUT AND THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS. WE RECEIVE EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS ALL THE TIME, AND SOME PEOPLE WILL APOLOGIZE AND SAY, OH, I DON'T WANT TO BUG YOU AGAIN. IT'S NEVER A BUG OR A BOTHER. I WANT TO THANK ED FOR WHAT HE'S DOING WITH THE ADA BATHROOMS. I FOUGHT VERY HARD TO GET THOSE BATHROOMS AND TO GET OUR TOWN IN COMPLETE COMPLIANCE FOR ADA ASPECTS THROUGHOUT OUR FACILITY, SO THANK HIM FOR CONTINUING TO LOOK AFTER THAT. WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FROM THE COUNTY AND TO LOOK AT SOME PARCELS THAT THEY NO LONGER ARE INTERESTED IN, AND POSSIBLY FOR FREE, BEING ABLE TO ASSUME POSSESSION. PRIMARILY THE PARCELS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WERE ANALYZING THESE PARCELS WITH OUR PLANNING STAFF AND OTHERS. BUT IT WOULD. LEONA, THIS WILL BE MUSIC TO YOUR EARS.

SHE SHE THOUGHT SHE WAS GOING TO GO HOME MEANING AND I AND WE WOULDN'T WE WOULDN'T TALK WITH HER. BUT SOME OF THESE PARCELS WILL ALLOW US TO PROTECT WETLANDS. SOME OF THE PARCELS ARE GOING TO ALLOW US TO EXPAND SOME OF OUR FOOTPRINT AROUND PARKS. WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO JUST CREATE SOME ADDITIONAL BUFFER ZONES IN OTHER RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES, SINCE WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT DENSITY. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT, THAT CONTINUING THAT PROCESS AND THAT MEETING WITH WITH THE COUNTY AS WE GO FORWARD ON AUGUST 18TH. THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE TIME I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD, PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND PUBLIC INPUT HAS BEEN CRUCIAL AND IMPORTANT, AND I HAVE WORKED ON MANY PROJECTS, WHETHER IT'S BRINGING GRANT FUNDING OR OTHER FUNDING OR STUDIES SO THAT WE CAN GET FUNDING OR ADVANCE PROJECTS. THE BACKBONE IS ALWAYS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT AND THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, AND THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE. AUGUST 18TH WE WILL HAVE THE FINAL PUBLIC MEETING FOR THE BOA, WHICH IS THE BROWNFIELD OPPORTUNITY APPLICATION THAT WE PUT IN SEVERAL YEARS AGO. THE EXTENSION OF THAT IS NOW WE'RE WORKING WITH THE VILLAGE OF BLASDELL, BUT THE ONE FOR THE WOODLAWN COMMUNITY WILL BE ON AUGUST 18TH HERE AT TOWN HALL FROM 5 TO 7, BUT IT WILL BE ON THE WEBSITE FOR YOUR REFERENCE. I DON'T WANT TO SKIP ANYTHING HERE. YOU SAID ABOUT THE FAIR ADA COUNTY PARCELS. I THINK I ALMOST GOT EVERYTHING OTHER THAN I DO WANT TO SAY, THE SENIOR AND COMMUNITY CENTER. AS WE'VE SAID BEFORE, FACILITY, THAT PROCESS HAS REALLY EVOLVED AND A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO IT. AND I LIKE TO THINK THAT IT'S THE PRODUCT OF A LOT OF GREAT MINDS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND PEOPLE COMING FORTH, WHETHER IT WAS THE PICKLEBALL GROUP OR THE GENTLEMEN WHO WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE BILLIARDS ROOM, OR THERE WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT BROUGHT INFORMATION IN THEIR DESIRE AND THEIR THOUGHTS FORWARD. AND THIS REALLY SHOULD BE LOOKED AT AS, AS A, AS ANOTHER ONE OF OUR GEMS. THAT'S A COLLABORATION AND A CULMINATING MOMENT IN OUR, IN OUR COMMUNITY. BUT I DO WANT TO SAY, FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE PART OF ALL THOSE MEETINGS OR THAT PROCESS, AND I LOVE PROCESS. I LOVE WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY AND SEE HOW THINGS EVOLVE. BUT FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T HAD THAT

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AND I NEVER HAVE BEEN, OR WILL I EVER BE AFRAID OF ANY DECISION THAT I HAVE TO MAKE ON THE BEST, IN THE BEST INTEREST AND ON YOUR BEHALF. OKAY, I GOT ABOUT AN HOUR OF SPEECH I WANT TO GIVE, BUT I WILL. I WOULD LIKE TO CORRECT THOUGH THEY. I DID REVIEW THE THERE'S A AND IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE I KNOW THAT MR. DAN O'CONNELL IS HERE THE REPUBLICAN CHAIRMAN AND AS SOON AS I GOT TO THREE MINUTES HE STARTED INTERRUPTING ME AND MY COLLEAGUES ALL WENT. BETH WENT FOR ABOUT EIGHT MINUTES. SO I DON'T KNOW WHY WHAT MR. O'CONNELL HAS AGAINST ME, WHY HE. NO I'M NOT I HAVEN'T FINISHED THE THREE MINUTES. THERE'S ONE. YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT SOMEBODY'S SAYING? THAT'S NOT TRUE. YOU STOP. YOU STOPPED A COUPLE BOARD MEMBERS BEFORE SAYING SO. BUT I JUST FIND IT VERY INTERESTING THAT YOU'RE CRITICAL OF ME. BUT NOT SO.

UNFORTUNATELY. KATHY'S TURN WAS. ANYWAY, I. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT ANYBODY FROM THE WEST, ARNOLD, PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T GET CONTACTED, WE SAID EARLIER, IF YOU'D CONTACT MY OFFICE, GIVE ME YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE YOUR NAME. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO SCHEDULE A MEETING FOR THOSE PEOPLE SO WE CAN GET THIS WATER LINE THING SITUATED. I THINK WE CAN TALK TO THE TAX ASSESSOR, TOO, AND GET THAT LIST TO MAKE SURE WE'LL DOUBLE CROSS IT SO WE DON'T FORGET ANYBODY. OKAY, THAT'S IT FOR ME. SHORT AND SWEET MEETING YOU. OH I'M SORRY. OH, EXECUTIVE. THERE'S AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. OH. YOU WANT TO WAIT TILL THE NEXT TIME YOU WANT FOR THE BUILDING TO THE LEFT FOR THE POTENTIAL SALE. OH. ALL RIGHT. OH, I'M SORRY. THERE'S ONE OTHER THING I HAD TO SAY. THE WHITE, WHITE BUILDING THAT'S AS YOU PULL IN THE DRIVEWAY. WE CALL IT THE WHITE HOUSE. THAT CONVERSATION. OKAY. OH, FORGET THAT CONVERSATION, BUT YOU HAVE TO ASK FOR THE EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR IT. BUT, OKAY. EXECUTIVE SESSION. IT'S BEEN LONG FOR ALL OF US. WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS SALE OF PROPERTY. AND LISA AND ELISE, THE LEASE AGREEMENT SESSION, EXTENSION OF THE LEASE AGREEMENT. OKAY. IS THAT IT? OKAY. YES. YEAH. OKAY. MEETING ADJOURNED. YES. NO. KEN, YOUR MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR?

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.