Sep 22, 2025 9-22-2025 TB Meeting

[1. Roll Call]

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YOU'RE ATTENTION LIKE TO CALL THE ROLL. SUPERVISOR RYBCZYNSKI. COUNCIL MEMBER FARRELL LORENZ.

PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER. COMERFORD. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. KOZUB. COUNCIL MEMBER.

BUGALSKI. ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. PRESIDENT. OKAY. PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF THE FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. IF EVERYONE WOULD REMAIN STANDING FOR JUST A MOMENT, FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE, FOR ALL OF OUR SERVICE MEMBERS AND THOSE WHO GAVE THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE. THANK YOU.

AND I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT WE HAVE TWO EMERGENCY EXITS IN THE BACK AND ON THE SIDE. OKAY.

[3. Minutes of Previous Meeting]

[4.1. Notice of Public Hearing Proposed Local Law #10, 2025]

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NO, NO, YOU KNOW, HIGH RISES OR, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER UMPTEENTH SELF-STORAGE PLACE OR SOMETHING.

BUT YEAH, I WOULD I FEEL LIKE BECAUSE I KNOW THE PROPERTIES FURTHER UP SOUTHWESTERN ARE SLATED TO POTENTIALLY BE LAKEVIEW COMMERCIAL, AND I FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD REALLY FIT FOR AT LEAST WHAT I'M DOING DOWN ON THAT END OF SOUTHWESTERN. JOSH, WOULD THAT FIT? IS HIS UNDERSTANDING CORRECT THAT HIS USE WOULD FIT LAKEVIEW COMMERCIAL? THAT IS CORRECT.

CAN YOU WHEN YOU SUBMIT A NEW MAP TO US, MARK OFF HIS SO WE KNOW THAT IT MAY JUST BE BECAUSE I, I THINK I REMEMBER WHEN YOU WENT THROUGH YOUR PRESENTATION EARLIER WHERE HIS WAS THAT IT KIND OF MAKES A CONTINUATION LIKE AN L SHAPE ALMOST OF LAKEVIEW COMMERCIAL, BUT IT WOULD HELP TO SEE IT ON THE MAPS THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. THE OTHER THING YOU CAN CONSIDER IS A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF SOUTHWESTERN BOULEVARD, WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, AND THE SAME USE OF THAT KIND OF WELDING CUSTOM SHOP THAT ALSO WOULD BE ALLOWED IN NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL. SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING TO CONSIDER IF HE WERE TO BE RESOLVED. OKAY, I DID LOOK BRIEFLY. I'D HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK, BUT IT IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE THAT FIT IN NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL. BUT YOU'RE PROBABLY RIGHT. I'D HAVE TO. I WOULD TAKE YOUR WORD. I'D TAKE HIS WORD OVER AND OVER MINE. SO.

AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, YOU WOULD BE AGREEABLE WITH THAT ALSO. YEAH, YEAH. SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WOULD ENSURE THAT I HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONTINUE OPERATING MY BUSINESS AND, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL TO EXPAND THE SHOP SIZE, YOU KNOW, STUFF LIKE THAT. OKAY. THANKS, MAN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. DIANE, I NOTICED YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP. NO, I, I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC COMMENT. OH, OKAY. I'M A LITTLE HARD OF HEARING, SO I HEAR PUBLIC, AND I'M. HELLO. MY NAME IS CRAIG BANNISTER, AND I'M A C2 OWNER. RIGHT AT THE TAIL END OF THE 80 MILE BRICK ON ROUTE 20. MY PROPERTY IS ZONED AT C2 AND THE CLASS IS FOR 80, WHICH MEANS A MULTI-USE BUILDING. THERE IS NO WAY THAT THAT WOULD BE TURNED INTO A RESIDENTIAL.

IT'S NOT BUILT THAT WAY. I HAVE A PARKING LOT IN FRONT OF THE WHOLE PLACE NOW. FOR THEM TO REDO THAT AS RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL, THAT'S REALLY NOT FEASIBLE. I BOUGHT IT TEN YEARS AGO KNOWING THAT IT'S A C2 COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AND FOR ITS USES NOW, IT WANTED TO CHANGE THAT OVER. IT'S NOT FAIR TO ME, NOT FAIR TO THE VALUE OF MY PROPERTY. IN FACT, I LOOKED AT THE PLANNING MAP AND I NOTICED THAT THAT ONE SMALL AREA, THAT TRIANGLE AREA, WOULD PROBABLY FIT WITHIN A WALMART PARKING LOT. SO I'M WONDERING WHY THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED FOR A REASON OF KEEPING SOME RURAL ESTHETICS WHEN I MEAN, YOU CAN'T GET MORE RURAL THAN THAT AREA. I MEAN, IF YOU WANTED, LET'S SAY ME TO PUT UP TREES. IN FACT, TEN YEARS AGO I WAS SPEAKING TO KURT. I BELIEVE HE WAS THE HEAD OF I WAS THERE WHEN I BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY. I HAVE WOODS BEHIND IT. I HAVE NO PLANS OF TAKING THOSE WOODS DOWN, BECAUSE I HAVE A STRONG BELIEF THAT WE DO NEED WOODS. IN FACT, IT'S KIND OF FUNNY THAT HAMBURG WANTS TO OVERSEE ALL THIS, BUT THEY ARE KIND OF LIKE THE BIGGEST OFFENDER OF TAKING DOWN WOODS. AS YOU SEE, WITH ALL THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG WITH THE NEW HOUSES. I ALWAYS FELT THAT MAYBE IF WE ALL, AS OWNERS, SAT DOWN WITH YOU AND HAD A ONE ON ONE, PERHAPS WE CAN COME TO SOME COMMON GROUND AND MAYBE IT WOULD PRODUCE SOME SOLUTIONS.

BUT BECAUSE I THINK, HONESTLY, I'VE SPOKEN TO A LOT OF CONCERNED PEOPLE AND SOME PEOPLE EAST OF ME ARE RATHER KIND OF LIKE THE IDEA OF THEIR C-2 BEING CONVERTED TO RESIDENTIAL. BUT LIKE I SAID, WHEN I BOUGHT MY PROPERTY, IT WAS C-2, AND THAT'S WHAT I PAID.

NOW, IF I HAD TO DO THAT ALL OVER AGAIN, WE KNOW WITH ALL THE GOODNESS OF COVID THAT DID

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AND I JUST WANT TO TRY TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE CURRENT USE SO THAT WE DON'T DO SOMETHING THAT IS DETRIMENTAL. YEAH, LIKE I SAID, IT'S A FULL PARKING LOT. NOW, MY FUTURE USE IS WHAT I'VE BEEN. I WOULD LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, ESTABLISH AN ANTIQUE BUSINESS, MAYBE SELL 1 OR 2 VINTAGE CARS. NOW, THAT PROPERTY IN THE PAST WAS CLASSIFIED IN THE IN THE PAST, THAT PROPERTY DID SELL CARS. IT WAS ONCE A BAR. BUT MY SORT OF THING WOULD BE LOW KEY BECAUSE IF ANYONE DROVE BY THAT PROPERTY, THEY'D SAY, WELL, I NEVER SEE ANYBODY ON THERE.

WELL, IT'S NOT A RESIDENCE. YOU WOULDN'T SEE ANYBODY ON THE PROPERTY AT NIGHT, AND THERE'S ALWAYS A CHAIN GOING ACROSS BECAUSE GUESS WHAT? I WANT YOU OUT. AND, MR. BANNISTER, THANK YOU FOR COMING THIS EVENING. AND THAT'S THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, EXACTLY AS YOU SAID, TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS SO THAT WE CAN HEAR FROM FROM RESIDENTS, ESPECIALLY AS IT AFFECTS INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES. THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON THAT WE WE HAVE THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS. SO THANK YOU FOR COMING. SO BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO SIT DOWN AND TALK WITH YOU AND GET FEEDBACK ON THE JUST AS WE LISTEN TO TAYLOR A FEW MOMENTS AGO AND THEN WE TALK WITH OUR CONSULTANT, THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF OF EXACTLY THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT WE'RE HAVING THIS EVENING. SO THANK YOU. I THANK YOU FOR ACKNOWLEDGING THAT.

LIKE I SAID, I BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY 11 YEARS AGO WITH THE INTENT OF WHEN I'M READY TO HAVE A BUSINESS, BUT NOTHING LIKE A A SELF-STORAGE OR A TEN STORY HIGH RISE APARTMENTS. NO, NO, I DO BELIEVE IN KEEPING THINGS RURAL. AND I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROPERTY, IT'S IT'S RURAL. NOW, THE PREVIOUS PERSON WHO SPOKE ACTUALLY OFFERED SOME OTHER POSSIBILITIES THAT HE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN. AND I KNOW JOSH COMMENTED ABOUT THAT. DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS AS FAR AS IF, IF YOU WERE NOT IN FAVOR OF IT GOING TO RA, DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ABOUT OR ARE YOU INTERESTED IN SAYING C-2? I WOULD LIKE TO STAY C-2, BUT PERHAPS LATER DOWN THE ROAD WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION AND EXPLORE OPTIONS. I'M OPEN. NOT A HARD PERSON TO TALK TO. BUT IN FACT, YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T MIND IF THERE WAS, LIKE, SOME SORT OF ORGANIZATION THAT PERHAPS. NOT LENT OUT, BUT GAVE OUT, I DON'T KNOW, VEGETATION LIKE TREES, BECAUSE I WOULDN'T MIND PUTTING A WHOLE ROW OF TREES GOING RIGHT ACROSS THAT FRONT. I THINK, BECAUSE ON MY PROPERTY I HAVE A RULE. WELL, TOWN OF HAMBURG HAS A RULE THAT IT'S A 60FT FROM THE 18 MILE EDGE WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T BUILD BRICK AND MORTAR. AND I HAVE BEEN BASICALLY THE, THE CARETAKER OF THAT, THE CUSTODIAN OF THAT, BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD MAINTAIN SOME SORT OF WOODLAND THUMBPRINT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, HE'D SAY, YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOU LOOK AT HAMBURG AND YOU SEE EVERY WEEKEND THERE'S A NEW, NEW COMPANY LAYING DOWN BRICKS FOR A NEW DEVELOPMENT, AND WE'LL GET TO THE POINT WHERE THERE WON'T BE ANY WOODS LEFT. MR. BANNISTER, IS YOUR PROPERTY ON NORTH CREEK OR ON SOUTHWESTERN? SOUTHWESTERN, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, FOR THE TWO MAJOR ROADS.

SOUTHWESTERN. ROUTE FIVE. IT'S A MAJOR. CRORE COMMERCIAL ROAD THAT HAS THAT, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE THOUSANDS OF COMMERCIAL, WHETHER IT BE CARS OR TRUCKS THAT PASS BY MY PROPERTY EVERY

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WE GET IF YOU WANT TO CALL MY OFFICE IN THE SPRING OR IF YOU WANT TO LEAVE YOUR NUMBER, I CAN GET THE INFORMATION TO YOU WHEN IT COMES OUT. EVEN IF THEY LEND OUT VOLUNTEERS. I'M NOT.

I'M NOT AGREEING THOUGH, JOSH. BUT SINCE THEN, YOU KNOW, SINCE I'VE OWNED THE PROPERTY, PROBABLY, I WOULD SAY MAYBE 15 NEW TREES NATURALLY SPAWNED BECAUSE I'M NOT ALLOWED TO, YOU KNOW, CUT THE TREES. I MEAN, I WOULDN'T THINK OF IT. WELL. THANK YOU. WELL, THANK YOU AND HAVE A NICE DAY. THANK YOU. MR. JOSH, CAN YOU SEND ME MR. BANNISTER'S ADDRESS SO I CAN DO A DRIVE BY THIS WEEK? THANK YOU. WOULD YOU SEND THAT TO EVERYONE? THANK YOU. HELLO, MR. MISKOVSKY.

GOOD EVENING. SUPERVISOR. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS. AND YOU FORGIVE ME IF I USE MY GLASSES. IT'S. YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF THOSE AGING THINGS, YOU KNOW, I'M WANTS. I THINK EVERYBODY UP HERE HAS A PROBLEM. AS AS SOME OF YOU KNOW, MY NAME IS MARK MISKOVSKY. I'M ACCOMPANIED BY MY ATTORNEY, MARK ROMANOWSKI, WHO WILL COMMENT ON THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF THE PROPOSED ZONING DOWNGRADES, WHICH WILL, FOR THE LAKEVIEW COMMERCIAL DISTRICT PROPERTIES ALONG SOUTHWESTERN BOULEVARD. IS THERE A PARTICULAR ARE YOU SPEAKING TO YOUR PROPERTIES, WHICH ON THE SBL LISTING? I AM SPEAKING TO SPECIFIC PROPERTIES, BUT IN GENERAL TO THE LAKE PROPOSED LAKEVIEW COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. WE HAVE OWNED THREE PROPERTIES IN THAT AREA. JUST TO GIVE SOME BACKGROUND, BECAUSE SOME OF YOU PROBABLY DON'T KNOW ME, SOME OF YOU DO. OUR FAMILY HAS RESIDED IN HAMBURG FOR 48 YEARS. WE ARE ONE OF THE FOUNDING FAMILIES OF THE MACEDONIAN ORTHODOX CHURCH ON LAKE AVENUE, WHICH I'M AN OFFICER OF, HAVE BEEN AN OFFICER OF AND CURRENTLY A LONG TERM BOARD MEMBER OF AS WELL.

SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW ME THROUGH MY WORK AT THE STEEL WINDS WIND PROJECT, WHICH I HEADED UP, WHICH EXPANDED, AND THE LAST TIME I WAS BEFORE THIS COUNCIL, OF COURSE, DIFFERENT MEMBERS WAS FOR THE PERMITTING OF THE FOUR WINDMILLS THAT ARE NOW IN HAMBURG THAT YOU ALL ARE WELL AWARE OF. OVER THE PAST 48 YEARS, MY FAMILY HAS INVESTED CONSIDERABLY IN THIS TOWN. AS I STATED, WE OWN SEVERAL PROPERTIES IN LAKE VIEW DISTRICT. THESE PROPERTIES WERE EXPRESSLY PURCHASED BECAUSE OF THEIR COMMERCIAL STATUS FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. WE'VE OWNED THEM FOR 25 YEARS AND IT WAS ACTUALLY A TAX EXCHANGE, IN ESSENCE, FOR OTHER COMMERCIAL PROPERTY THAT WE SOLD. ONE OF THOSE PROPERTIES WAS CONSIDERED FOR A FUTURE DOLLAR GENERAL STORE, WHICH I'M SURE ALL OF YOU ARE AWARE OF. THE TOWN PLANNING BOARD DENIED THAT OPPORTUNITY OR THE BUILDING OF THAT. THE PERMITS FOR THAT PROJECT AT THE 11TH HOUR, NEARLY AFTER NEARLY TWO YEARS OF EFFORT AND SUBSTANTIAL TIME AND COST BOTH TO THE DEVELOPER AS WELL AS TO OURSELVES. BY THE WAY, THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL FORMERLY SERVED AS A GAS STATION AND COUNTRY STORE FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND FOR TRAVELERS ALONG ROUTE 20 FOR ALMOST IN EXCESS OF 60 YEARS. SO COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENTS HAVE EXISTED IN THAT ZONE FOR A LONG TIME AND SHOULD CONTINUE TO EXIST. OVER THE PAST FOUR YEARS, WE'VE HAD AN EXCESS OF 350 INQUIRIES ON DEVELOPMENT PURCHASES, POTENTIAL PURCHASES OF OUR PROPERTIES AND WHAT USES THEY CAN HAVE. AND MOST OF THEM ARE COMMERCIAL. THE CALLS MIRROR THE COMMERCIAL AND PERSONAL ESTABLISHMENTS THAT YOU FIND BASICALLY FROM WEST ON SOUTHWESTERN, FROM WEST SENECA, ALL THE WAY UP TO THE WALMART. ALMOST IDENTICAL ACROSS THE BOARD DEVELOPERS, STRIP PLAZAS, MULTI-STORY OFFICE BUILDINGS, RETAIL STORES, GROCERY STATIONS, GROCERY STORES, GAS STATIONS, CONVENIENCE STORES, HOTELS, MOTELS, AUTOMOBILE DEALERS, WAREHOUSING, STORAGE, AND DISTRIBUTION CONSOLIDATORS DELIVERY SERVICES. SMALL MANUFACTURERS OF ALL TYPES.

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AND I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT FACTOR IN YOUR THINKING. IT SHOULD BE AN IMPORTANT FACTOR IN THINKING OTHERWISE. THESE RESIDENTS BEHIND ME AND ACROSS THE TOWN WOULD BE PAYING DOUBLE THEIR TAXES IF THOSE COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENTS DID NOT EXIST OR WERE MINIMIZED IN SOME FASHION.

I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE ADOPTION OF THE PROPOSED ZONING DOWNGRADES WILL SEVERELY LIMIT NEEDED SERVICES AND USES. IT WILL STIFLE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, AND WILL RENDER COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES IN THE AREA ESSENTIALLY UNDEVELOPABLE AND WORTHLESS. THAT'S THE POSITION THAT I SEE BECAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING TO DOWNGRADE OUR PROPERTIES AND EVERYONE ELSE'S. THOSE ARE ALL MY COMMENTS. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THAT YOU'RE NOT IN FAVOR OF THE LAKEVIEW COMMERCIAL? NO, I AM IN FAVOR OF THE LAKEVIEW COMMERCIAL.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS. BUT I'M IN FAVOR OF MAINTAINING THE CURRENT ZONING THAT EXISTS FOR OUR PROPERTIES, FOR SURE. AND CERTAINLY OTHER COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES SHOULD BE CONSIDERED IN THE SAME LIGHT. AND I WOULD EXPAND IT BECAUSE CURRENTLY YOU'RE LOOKING AT DOWNGRADING THESE PROPERTIES. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE USES, THOSE USES ARE INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE TRAVELERS ON THEIR ROAD. IT DOESN'T. TO ME, IT'S ILLOGICAL, WHICH ARE IF YOU WOULD GIVE US THE SBL NUMBERS FOR YOUR THREE PARCELS, I CAN GIVE YOU. I DON'T HAVE ALL THREE WITH ME. FORGIVE ME. I DON'T HAVE ANY OF THEM, ACTUALLY. THE ONE PARCEL IS ON THE CORNER OF HEALTH'S AND LAKEVIEW, WHICH WAS THE DOLLAR GENERAL SITE. JOSH, DO YOU HAVE THE SYMBOLS FOR THE THREE PROPERTIES IN QUESTION? I DON'T KNOW, OKAY, SO IF YOU COULD SEND THOSE TO US. OKAY. CAN YOU CAN YOU ADD CAN YOU COMMENT, SHED ANY LIGHT ON THE CONVERSATION REGARDING. I'M NOT SURE. YOU KNOW, AGAIN THE YOUR QUESTION IS THAT YOU FEEL IT SHOULD NOT GO FROM C-2 TO LAKEVIEW COMMERCIAL. RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO JOSH, IF YOU COULD COMMENT A LITTLE BIT ON THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO. SO BECAUSE YOU HAD COMMENTED ABOUT THAT, YOU WERE IN FAVOR OF THE LAKEVIEW COMMERCIAL, CORRECT. BUT NOT DOWNGRADING THE PROPERTIES. RIGHT. THE ZONE SHOULD BE A COMMERCIAL ZONE IN GENERAL.

RIGHT. BUT THE MANNER IN WHICH YOU'RE DOING IT IS THAT YOU'RE DOWNGRADING THE ACTUAL ZONING OF THE INDIVIDUAL PARCELS, AS THEY ARE TODAY IN THAT PROCESS. AND THAT DOWNGRADE SHOULD NOT

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HE'S NOT IN FAVOR OF THE LAKE, THE LAKEVIEW COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AT ALL. HE WANTS TO SEE IT CONTINUE AS A COMMERCIAL ZONED PROPERTY. AND THE C-2 ZONING THAT HE'S LIVED WITH AND HIS FAMILY'S LIVED WITH FOR DECADES IS MORE ALIGNED WITH THE LIKELY DEVELOPMENT SCENARIOS FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY. TO THE QUESTION THAT YOU ASKED, JOSH, IT'S IT'S SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING REMOVED ARE THE VERY THINGS THAT ALLOW THE OTHER, OTHER USES TO THRIVE THAT YOU'VE IDENTIFIED IN THIS NEW LAKEVIEW COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. SO, FOR INSTANCE, ONE OF THE FIRST PERMITTED USES IN THE IN THE LAKEVIEW COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ARE PERSONAL SERVICE ESTABLISHMENTS, BARBERSHOPS, BEAUTY PARLORS, LAUNDROMATS, ETC. THERE'S BANKS IN THERE. THESE ARE THINGS THAT DON'T SURVIVE ON THEIR OWN UNLESS THERE'S TRAFFIC. A BARBER DOESN'T PUT UP A SHOP IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE IF THEY DON'T HAVE OTHER TRAFFIC COMING BY THAT SHOP. YOU RARELY SEE A BARBER SHOP OUT IN, YOU KNOW, IN A IN AN AREA THAT'S LESS DENSELY POPULATED OR DOESN'T HAVE OTHER SURROUNDING COMMERCIAL USES. IF YOU LOOK AT THE VILLAGE OF HAMBURG, THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE THOSE TYPE OF FACILITIES. WELL, WHY? BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER FOLKS THERE, AND ONE OF THE 2 OR 2 OF THE THINGS THAT WERE TAKEN OUT OF THE C-2 DISTRICT THAT ARE MOST DETRIMENTAL TO THE POTENTIAL REUSE OF THIS PROPERTY ARE RETAIL SALES AND EATING AND DRINKING ESTABLISHMENTS. YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE TYPE OF USES THAT ARE MOST LIKELY IN THIS STRETCH OF SOUTHWESTERN BOULEVARD AND MOST LIKELY TO FACILITATE SOME OF THOSE OTHER PERSONAL SERVICE ESTABLISHMENTS THAT YOU IDENTIFIED IN THE LAKEVIEW COMMERCE DISTRICT. SO REMOVING REMOVING THOSE IS PROBLEMATIC. I KNOW THAT THE TOWN HAD SOME STRUGGLES WITH THE TIM HORTONS THERE, AND IN PARTICULAR THE TRAFFIC THAT THAT COMES THROUGH THAT FACILITY, BUT YOU APPROPRIATELY IN THOSE SITUATIONS, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S IN THE LAKEVIEW COMMERCE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DO A DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT ANYWAYS, BUT YOU HAD A SPECIAL USE PERMIT PROVISION.

AND SPECIAL USE PERMIT PROVISIONS ARE DESIGNED FOR THE VERY PURPOSE OF ALLOWING IT TO LOOK A LITTLE BIT MORE CLOSELY AT THESE TYPE OF THINGS, WHERE WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE INTENSITY, HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THAT INTENSITY? LET'S LET'S PUT A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTROL OVER THOSE PARTICULAR USES. SO WE FEEL THAT TAKING OUT RETAIL SALES AND EATING AND DRINKING ESTABLISHMENTS IN PARTICULAR, IS EXTREMELY PROBLEMATIC FOR THE REUSE OF OF THESE OF MY CLIENT'S PROPERTIES AND THE OTHER PROPERTIES IN THIS IN THIS STRETCH, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF USES MOST LIKELY TO OCCUR. AND, YOU KNOW, ALSO IN THE TOWN, FOR INSTANCE, DENIED THE THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR THE DOLLAR GENERAL AT THE CORNER. THAT HAD A CHILLING EFFECT ON THE REDEVELOPMENT OF ALL HIS PARCELS, BECAUSE NOW THE COMMERCIAL COMMUNITY LOOKS AT THIS AND GOES, WELL, WHAT CAN YOU DO THERE? THAT WAS A PERMITTED USE. IT WENT THROUGH TWO YEARS OF WORK AND YOU STILL DENIED IT. AND YOU DO. YEAH, I'M NOT SAYING. I'M JUST SAYING I THINK A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE STATE. THE STATE'S NOT ALLOWING ANY CUTS INTO SOUTHWESTERN OR ANY OTHER STATE ROAD THAT'S OUT THERE. SO, I MEAN, UNLESS HE WANTS TO PUT A SERVICE ROAD BACK THERE OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE NATURES TO GET TO THE PARTS OF PROPERTY, THE STATE'S NOT GOING TO ALLOW ANY CUTS UNLESS IT'S ALREADY EXISTING ONE. RIGHT. AND THEN THE PLANNING BOARD DENIED IT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT A ROAD CUT THERE. SO AND THIS IS A STANDARD DOT POLICY I WOULD DO. AS YOU GUYS KNOW, I DO A LOT OF COMMERCIAL WORK. AND IF THERE'S SECONDARY ACCESS THEY SAY WE'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU A CURB CUT ON A STATE HIGHWAY. THAT'S STANDARD POLICY IN THE REGION. SO THE CURB CUT, IN MY OPINION, WASN'T THE REASON THAT THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT WAS DENIED. IT WAS DENIED BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORS DIDN'T LIKE RETAIL.

SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS, IS THAT THESE PROVISIONS ARE SO LIMITING THAT THEY RENDER THE PROPERTIES USELESS IN THIS AREA AND IN THIS SITUATION. AND WE JUST ASK THE BOARD, RECONSIDER SOME OF THESE LIMITATIONS AND BE A LITTLE BIT MORE REALISTIC ABOUT WHAT WOULD FACILITATE REDEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YEAH.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MARK PARSON. I OWN THE PROPERTY ON THE CORNER OF SOUTHWESTERN BOULEVARD AND LAKEVIEW ROAD.

IT'S 2330 LAKEVIEW ROAD. DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER WITH ME. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. IT'S THE GOLF CART PLACE, RIGHT? THE GOLF CART BUSINESS WE ALL KNOW. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE KNOWN AS. SO JUST LETTING YOU. THANK YOU. BUT NOW WE ALL HAVE A MENTAL PICTURE WHERE YOU'RE

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AND SO I DID THAT, WENT OUT AND EXPLORED AND FOUND THAT ACRE OF PROPERTY, HAD IT SPLIT OFF AND DEVELOPED, YOU KNOW, STARTED DEVELOPING TEN YEARS AGO AND CONTINUED TO DO THAT WITH WHAT I HAVE TODAY UNDER THE PROPOSED LAKEVIEW COMMERCIAL. MY TWO BUSINESSES DON'T FALL UNDER THAT. I'M VERY CONCERNED BECAUSE I'M OPERATING UNDER A SPECIAL USE PERMIT UNDER C2 FROM AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR, AND I HAVE RETAIL SALES BASICALLY AT MY GOLF CART SHOP. SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT OPERATING TODAY. UNDERSTAND, I HEARD TALKING ABOUT GRANDFATHERING AND WHATNOT, BUT I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THAT PROPERTY IN MY BUSINESS AND WHAT I'M GOING TO DO 20 YEARS FROM NOW. I DON'T WANT TO BE LIMITED BY DOWN, YOU KNOW, WATERING DOWN THE THE CURRENT ZONING ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. I WOULD LIKE TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I DISAGREE WITH THE LAKEVIEW COMMERCIAL. I WANT THAT PROPERTY TO PROPERTY TO STAY AS THE C2. MY GLASSES HERE. YEAH. SO IN ADDITION TO THAT, IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN, GOD FORBID ANOTHER FIRE OR SOMETHING. SORRY ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU. BUT TO HAVE TO REBUILD AND GO THROUGH THAT, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANY LIMITATIONS, YOU KNOW, TO CURRENTLY REBUILD IF I NEED TO EXPAND OR DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT ON THE PROPERTY. I FEEL LIKE THE LAKEVIEW COMMERCIAL REALLY LIMITS WHAT I CAN DO ON THAT PROPERTY. AND I'VE WORKED VERY, VERY HARD OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS TO TO GET THAT PROPERTY ESTABLISHED MY TWO BUSINESSES. AND I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO, YOU KNOW, MOVE FORWARD AND HOPEFULLY GROW THOSE BUSINESSES. THAT'S MY LIVELIHOOD. THAT'S GOING TO BE MY, YOU KNOW, MY FAMILY'S FUTURE, MY RETIREMENT. SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO STATE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THAT PROPERTY AS C2. MR. PAYSON, MAY I ASK HOW MUCH OF THAT PROPERTY DO YOU STILL HAVE? UNDEVELOPED.

LIKE, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT EXPANDING THE PROPERTY, DO YOU HAVE LARGE PORTIONS OF IT THAT ARE STILL UNDEVELOPED OR. NO. OKAY, I'M GOING TO EXPAND A LITTLE BIT ON MY AUTO BODY SHOP TO TO TEMPORARILY OPERATE MY GOLF CART BUSINESS UNTIL WE CAN REBUILD. SO I'M WORKING ON THAT.

PRETTY MUCH HAVE AS MUCH AS I WANT. OVERALL, I AM GOING TO SQUARE OR SQUARE OUT THE CURRENT SETUP OF MY GOLF CART SHOP BECAUSE IT'S WE STARTED WITH A 40. BY 50, WE EXPANDED INTO THE BACK. IT'S A LITTLE BIT LONGER, SO I WANT TO MAKE IT LOOK NICER AND PUT A NICE RECTANGULAR STRUCTURE UP THERE. PROBABLY GO JUST A LITTLE BIT HIGHER SO I CAN UTILIZE THE OVERHEAD SPACE. BUT BEYOND THAT, I DON'T HAVE ANY CURRENT PLANS, BUT I CANNOT PREDICT THE FUTURE.

AND WHAT? NO, I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS LARGE PORTIONS OF THE PROPERTY LIKE SOME OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE SPOKEN, AND THERE ARE LARGE PORTIONS THAT WERE UNDEVELOPED. RIGHT? OKAY. JOSH. IF WE WERE TO EVER PUT IN A STIPULATION AND I DON'T NEED AN ANSWER NOW, BUT CAN YOU GET BACK TO US WITH A NOT AN OPINION? AND IF WE PUT ON A STIPULATION WHERE HE CAN CONTINUE TO OPERATE THE BUSINESS AS IT CURRENTLY IS INSIDE THAT AREA UNDER THE NEW DESIGNATION, LIKE WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO DO, WILL WE INVALIDATE HIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT? HOW WILL THAT ALL WORK? BECAUSE YOU HAVE A COMPLEX CASE LIKE YOU HAVE SPECIAL USE PERMITS. YOU'VE GOT SOME UNIQUE THINGS GOING ON THERE. THAT'S MORE THAN JUST IT IS MAKING AN EXCEPTION. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, WE DO IT IN A WAY THAT IT IT LASTS BEYOND THIS BOARD. AND YOU'RE NOT PULLING YOUR HAIR OUT IN FIVE YEARS WHEN IT'S A NEW BOARD SITTING HERE AND YOU'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING, WELL, WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE A NONCONFORMING USE WITHOUT HAVING A REMEDY, A PERMANENT REMEDY THERE THAT WOULD PROTECT YOU. BECAUSE IF WE HAVE A NON-CONFORMING USE, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TRAGIC HAPPEN AGAIN, THEN IT CREATES A WHOLE NOTHER LAYER OF COMPLEXITY FOR YOU THAT NOBODY. HOW DOES THAT WORK? IF, SAY, HE TURNED IT OVER TO HIS WIFE OR HIS KIDS OR SOMETHING BECAUSE HE'S TOO OLD OR WHATEVER, GETTING THERE GETS UP TO MY AGE AND WANTS TO.

WOULD THAT STILL STAY THE SAME IF HE TURNED IT OVER TO HIS CHILDREN OR WIFE? DEPENDS ON WHAT ZONING DISTRICT YOU CAN SEE. TWO. YES, THERE ARE PROVISIONS THAT WE READ ON THE LLC WITH THAT PROVISION THAT EXISTING BUSINESSES REMAIN AND THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT RUNS WITH THE PROPERTY. OKAY. SO THERE ARE SOME REMEDIES THAT COULD IF THIS BOARD DOES DECIDE TO LEAVE, THAT THERE ARE THINGS THAT RESOURCES ARE NEEDED TO DO. I JUST KIND OF WANT TO KNOW

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THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? HI, MY NAME IS DANIEL PACELLA. I HAVE A RESIDENCE AT SBL 207.006. 4 OR 6 SLASH 14. I DON'T HAVE A HUGE GRIPE, BUT I BOUGHT IT AS C2 AND IT'S JUST THE PROPERTY IS A LOT MORE APPEALING TO ME THAT WAY. YOU KNOW, JUST FOR FUTURE PLANS AND WHAT HAVE YOU. IT'S JUST MORE APPEALING TO ME THAT WAY, HONESTLY. SO THAT'S BASICALLY ALL I HAVE. OKAY. BUT YEAH. NOW WHERE ARE YOU LOCATED AT THEN? LIKE CLOSER TO SCHULTZ OR LAKEVIEW OR PLEASANT OR SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE NEXT TO HIM? I'M ON NORTH CREEK. OKAY.

NEAR SOUTHWESTERN. THANK YOU FOR COMING. YEAH, THANKS. ANYBODY ELSE? NOPE. OKAY. MADE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND, THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT AND LETTING US KNOW SO WE CAN MAKE A DECISION. THANK YOU. EVERYONE. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE.

[4.2. Notice of Public Hearing Proposed Local Law #9, 2025]

LET'S SEE. PLEASE TAKE NOTICE THAT THERE HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO THE TOWN BOARD. AUGUST 4TH, PURSUANT TO MUNICIPAL HOME RULE LAW. PROPOSED LOCAL LAW TO BE KNOWN AS PROPOSED LOCAL LAW NINE 2025 SAID LOCAL LAW PROVIDES FOR AMENDMENTS TO THE HAMBURG TOWN CODE, CHAPTER 280, ENTITLED ZONING. THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS ARE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG CODE REVIEW COMMITTEE. THE AMENDMENTS CAN BE DESCRIBED AS FOLLOWS. AND THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN. OKAY. ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS? THIS PUBLIC HEARING? OR ONCE, TWICE. OKAY, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE SECOND. OKAY. PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. CLOSED 709. NUMBER THREE 4922 OREGON AVENUE. REZONING. REFERRAL TO PLANNING

[4.3. 4922 Oregon Ave Rezoning Referral to PB Resolution]

[4.4. 5310 Southwestern Blvd Rezoning Referral to PB Planning Board]

THE TOWN BOARD HEREBY ENTERTAINS THIS REZONING REQUEST AND REFERS THE APPLICATION REZONING TO C2 TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR ITS REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION. AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD WOULD LIKE TO ACT AS LEAD AGENCY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE NEW YORK STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT AND HEREBY AUTHORIZES THE PLANNING BOARD, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, TO PERFORM THE APPROPRIATE MAILINGS AND TO COMPLETE THE REQUIRED COUNTY REFERRAL. SO MOVED SECOND ON THE QUESTION, JOSH, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES, FOR MYSELF AND EVERYBODY ELSE HERE, WE ARE JUST SENDING THIS TO PLANNING BOARD. IT IS NOT PERMITTING THE REZONING. WE'RE NOT SAYING WE'RE GOING ALONG WITH IT. IT'S SENDING IT TO PLANNING BOARD. SO PLANNING BOARD CAN GET INFORMATION SO THAT THEY CAN FORMULATE THEIR OPINION AND SEEK OUT THE OPINION OF THOSE RESIDENTS NEARBY WITH PUBLIC HEARING. CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. WE'RE SENDING THIS TO THE PLANNING BOARD STARTING SEEKER, SENDING IT TO A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT AGENCIES. AND THEN THE PLANNING BOARD WILL GET THE RECOMMENDATION BACK TO THIS BOARD. AND THEN THERE'LL BE A PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS BOARD LEVEL. OKAY. OKAY. SO IT'S JUST A REALLY RIGHT NOW IT'S A FACT

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OKAY. MOTION BY COUNCILMAN LORENZ, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN KOZUB. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

[4.5. Town of Hamburg Assessor Appointment-Mercer]

[4.6. POLICE - PAF]

[4.7. POLICE –Budget Amendment]

[4.8. Highway Budget Amendment]

[4.9. Budget Adjustment/Transfer – Dept. of Youth, Recreation, & Senior Services]

SENIOR SERVICES. NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, THE TOWN BOARD DOES HEREBY AUTHORIZE A BUDGET AMENDMENT IN 2025 TO INCREASE THE APPROPRIATE REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE LINES FOR THE RECEIPT OF THE PAYMENT AS FOLLOWS. SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? PAT, HAS ALL THESE GONE THROUGH YOU? HAVE YOU CHECKED ALL THESE TRANSFERS AND ALL THAT? WE WOULD DO EVERYTHING BEFORE IT GOT PUBLIC. OKAY. THANKS. NUMBER TEN TAYLOR. OH, SORRY. WE HAVE YOU. OKAY.

[4.10. Taylor Road Cabin Rental Alcohol Waivers]

[4.11. Youth, Recreation, & Senior Services - P.A.F.]

[4.12. Planning Board Appointment-Stewart]

I AGREE, I WAS ON THE BOARD AT ONE POINT. OKAY, SO BUT THE PAST THREE APPOINTMENTS HAVE ALL HAD LIMITED EXPERIENCE IN THOSE REALMS. AND SO I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT IT MAY BE MORE THAN. DO YOU HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE THEN YES I DO. I HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE. HOW MANY APPLICANTS DO WE HAVE? THREE. WHO ARE THE OTHERS? WELL, BRIAN, BRIAN. BRIAN WHO? I'M SORRY.

BRIAN. BRIAN. STEWART. BOB MAHONEY AND DANIEL CONNELL. WE'RE OPEN TO BOTH SEASONED MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING BOARD. DO YOU HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE? THERE'S A MOTION TO APPROVE BY FIRST THE MOTION MADE BY KOZUB. AND THE SECOND WAS ACTUALLY BY COUNCIL MEMBER BUKOWSKI. OKAY.

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SO I SECOND MISS COMERFORD'S MOTION TO TABLE. OKAY. SO WE HAVE TWO VOTES. ALL IN FAVOR FOR THAT MOTION TO TABLE NO. NEXT MEETING'S COMING UP I. KNOW NO OKAY. IT'S IMPORTANT THEY HAVE A QUORUM AT THE NEXT MEETING. YEAH, WELL, ONE PERSON IS NOT GOING TO RESULT IN NO QUORUM. I THINK THEY HAVE. SO THE MOTION TO TABLE WAS DENIED. THE MOTION TO TABLE WAS 2 TO 3.

IT AND IT FAILED. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. ARE YOU REMAINING SECOND ON THAT MOTION TO APPROVE? WE NEED A SECOND FOR THE MOTION BECAUSE BE RESCINDED.

HIS SECOND. RIGHT, SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OPPOSED A ROLL CALL VOTE. SURE. COUNCIL MEMBER FARRELL LORENZ. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER BUGALSKI I'M GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF IN THE SENSE, BECAUSE I CAN'T WITHOUT HAVING THEIR RESUMES. I KNOW THIS WAS DONE BY THE SUPERVISOR, BUT I PERSONALLY THINK IT WOULD. THAT'S WHY I SUPPORTED MY COLLEAGUE MEGAN COMERFORD'S MOTION TO TABLE. I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THEIR CREDENTIALS BEFORE US AND MAKE A WELL INFORMED DECISION. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THE PEOPLE THERE ARE GOOD OR BAD, I JUST DON'T KNOW. RIGHT? JUST KIND OF JUST CAME TO TO ME ON I THINK THURSDAY OR FRIDAY AND WE DON'T A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE HAVE. QUALIFICATIONS AND WE HAVE STUFF ATTACHED OR WE HAVE INFORMATION ATTACHED TO RESOLUTIONS AND THERE'S NOTHING OTHER THAN NAMES. SO I'M NOT I'M NOT IN A POSITION TO VOTE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, SO I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN. COUNCIL MEMBER COMERFORD OPPOSED ABSTAINING, BUT SUPERVISOR RYBCZYNSKI, YES. COUNCIL MEMBER KOZUB. YES. MOTION IS APPROVED. 3 TO 2. WELL, 3 TO 1 WITH. COUNCIL MEMBER BUGALSKI

[4.13. Hamburg Vision Committee Appointment]

[4.14. B&G Revenue Account Transfer]

[4.15. B&G PAF]

[4.16. Granicus for the PEAK Agenda Management Program]

[4.17. Streetlight Maintenance & Emergency Repair Contract for 2026-27]

[4.18. Chapter 90 "Dead Trees" Resolution]

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SECOND ON THE QUESTION. JOSH, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO JUST COMMENT A LITTLE BIT ON THIS FOR THE PUBLIC SO THAT THEY UNDERSTOOD THE CHANGE TO. SURE. YEAH, I AGREE. CHAPTER 90, WHICH IS THE DEAD TREES LAW THAT WAS BROUGHT TO COURT REVIEW. THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS FROM SOME NEIGHBORS OVER THE LANGUAGE THAT'S IN THE DEAD TREES LAW RIGHT NOW.

CURRENTLY READS IS ANY DEAD OR ABANDONED TREE AND THEN THE TOWN WILL DEAL WITH IT AS SO ON AND SO FORTH. WE DON'T HAVE A DEFINITION FOR ABANDONED ANYTIME. LANGUAGE IS AMBIGUOUS.

THAT'S NEVER GOOD IN YOUR CODE. SO THROUGH CODE REVIEW, THROUGH THE PLANNING BOARD, THROUGH THEIR RECOMMENDATION AND BROUGHT ON TO THIS TOWN BOARD, AND WE HELD A PUBLIC HEARING, WE FELT THAT WE WANTED TO STRIKE THOSE WORDS OR ABANDON. SO IT'S VERY SPECIFIC TO THE TREE. AND THEN FROM THERE ON, IF IT TOWERS OVER AN ADJOINING STRUCTURE, THEN YOU KNOW THERE WILL BE REPERCUSSIONS FROM THAT. EITHER THE OWNER HAS TO DEAL WITH IT. IF THE TOWN HAS TO THEN GO OUT AND CUT THE TREE, IT'LL BE AT THE OWNER'S EXPENSE. SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO THE MAIN CHANGE IS THAT REMOVAL OF THAT AMBIGUOUS DEFINITION OF ABANDONED BECAUSE WE DIDN'T DEFINE IT. AND NOW IT'S VERY SPECIFIC. ANY DEAD TREE THAT POSES A THREAT TO A STRUCTURE OR A BUILDING NOW HAS TO EITHER BE CUT BY THE OWNER OR ON THE TOWN, AND THAT WOULD BE CHARGED BACK TO THE OWNER OF THEIR TAX ROLL. SO THAT'S THE MAIN CHANGE BEFORE ME. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. CARRIED NUMBER 19, CHAPTER 80 BUILDINGS UNSAFE

[4.19. Chapter 80 "Buildings, Unsafe" Resolution]

[4.20. Town Engineering Consultant Contract Amendment]

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I AGREE WITH THAT. BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE, AND IT'S BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THIS MEETING, BUT I JUST PUT IT OUT IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN, IS THAT WE SHOULD REALLY HIRE, LIKE, THERE'S A COUPLE PEOPLE HERE, AND I THINK SOMETIMES MAYBE EVEN JOSH DOES A LOT OF GOOD WORK, BUT WE USE CONSULTANTS. BUT THERE'S SOME VALUE TO HAVE A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER FOR THE TOWN, BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT WE AND I CALL CAMI AND I CALL JOSH, AND THEY ALWAYS ANSWER MY QUESTIONS BECAUSE I'M NOT AN ENGINEER. SO I THINK THERE'S SOME VALUE IN HAVING THAT POSITION FILLED ON A FULL TIME BASIS GOING FORWARD. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, NOT GOING TO HAPPEN TODAY, BUT TO DO A SEARCH AND HAVE A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER WITH A STAMP THAT THAT CAN DO THESE JOBS BECAUSE IT IS A BIGGER TOWN AND THERE'S A NEED FOR THAT JOB. AND THAT'S JUST MY PREFERENCE THAT I'D LIKE TO EXPLORE WITH THE BOARD. MAYBE THERE'LL BE A NEW BOARD.

WE DON'T KNOW HOW THE ELECTIONS GO, BUT GOING FORWARD I'M WILLING TO WORK WITH WHOMEVER TO MAKE SOME OF THESE EMPLOYEES PERMANENT AND MAKE SURE THEY GET PAID THE RIGHT WAY BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE BUILDING THE BRIDGE, YOU'RE OVERSEEING A PROJECT.

THE LAST THING YOU WANT IS SOMEONE WHO'S AN IDIOT. THAT'S GOING TO CAUSE SOMEONE'S HEALTH AND SAFETY OR RISK. AND ALSO YOU DON'T WANT THINGS TO GO BAD. AND WE HAVE ZONING. THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT WE HAVE, AND WE NEED TO HAVE THE RIGHT PEOPLE TO DO IT AND TO GIVE US THE BEST ADVICE. AND THAT'S JUST MY $0.02 FOR GOING FORWARD. I'D LIKE TO EXPLORE THAT. OKAY.

WE HAVE A RESOLUTION MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BORKOWSKI AND SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN LORENZ.

[4.21. Award of Nike Concession/Bathroom Foundation]

[4.22. 6122 South Park Avenue-Listing Agreement Hunt Commercial Real Estate]

SO IF THEY'RE LOOKING TO SELL THAT BUILDING AND EVERYTHING GOING FORWARD, WE WOULD LIKE OUR LEASE TO CONTINUE, WHETHER IT GOES OVER. SO THE REALTOR SHOULD KNOW ABOUT THAT LEASE GOING FORWARD FOR OUR OUR IDA AND OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT. I THINK I BELIEVE MR. ATTIA HAS HAS NOTIFIED THEM OF THAT HE'S PART OF MR. ATTIA IS AWARE OF THAT. YES, BUT IT'S PART OF THE HUNT'S GOING TO PUT IT OUT THAT THERE IS A TENANT IN THERE ALREADY. ANY TRANSACTION WOULD HAVE TO BE SUBJECT TO THE LEASES BECAUSE THEY CURRENTLY EXIST. UNLESS THERE'S SOMEBODY PULLS OUT OF THE LEASE, IT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO YEAH, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S PART OF OUR RECORD, THAT'S ALL. YES. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SECONDED BY. COUNCILWOMAN LORENZ. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. APPROVED. WE HAVE THE AUDIT OF

[Additional Item]

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[5. Public Comment]

I WAS JUST VOTED IN THIS PAST WEDNESDAY AS THE INTERIM PRESIDENT FOR AT LEAST SIX MONTHS. WE ALSO HAVE A TREASURER AND A RECORDING SECRETARY. THE LAST MEETING, SEVERAL TROUBLING INCIDENTS HAVE TAKEN PLACE THAT I NEED TO REPORT. FIRST, I NEED TO CORRECT SOMETHING I SAID ON THE RECORD. AT THE LAST MEETING, I ACCIDENTALLY SAID, I PAY $1,200 A MONTH FOR AN EXTERMINATOR. IT'S 1200 A YEAR. I THINK YOU GUYS ALREADY UNDERSTOOD THAT, BUT I WANTED TO CORRECT IT. SHORTLY AFTER THAT MEETING, I WAS WRITTEN UP AGAIN BY THE PARK MANAGEMENT AND ACCUSED OF HARASSING TENANTS SIMPLY FOR KNOCKING ON DOORS TO COLLECT SIGNATURES FOR OUR ASSOCIATION. THIS IS A PROTECTED RIGHT UNDER NEW YORK REAL PROPERTY LAW PL 233, WHICH PROHIBITS HARASSMENT OR RETALIATION AGAINST TENANTS. ORGANIZING AND ASSOCIATION. I WAS ALSO ACCUSED OF TAMPERING WITH A BAIT STATION THAT I HAD THAT HAD BEEN LEFT UNTOUCHED FOR MONTHS, WHICH I GAVE YOU GUYS A I THINK A PICTURE OF THAT. I DOCUMENTED IT MULTIPLE TIMES WHEN IT WAS ALREADY OPEN. CODY, THE MAINTENANCE WORKER, THE DAY BEFORE I WAS WRITTEN UP, REMOVED IT, AND I WAS TOLD THAT NOBODY CAN REMOVE IT EXCEPT FOR THE PARK'S EXTERMINATOR. I FORGET THE NAME OF IT RIGHT NOW. AND I HAD TO INVOLVE THE ERIE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE FORCING THE EAGLE CREST TO PUT THE BAIT TRAPS BACK. WHEN I CONFRONTED MANAGEMENT, THE WORKER, IT ENDED UP AS A YELLING AND SCREAMING MATCH AND JUST INSULTING. BUT THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT ME. IT'S ABOUT THE. IT'S ABOUT THE COMMUNITY, THE SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S BOTHERING US IN THE COMMUNITY IS THAT CODY, THE MAINTENANCE WORKER, IS LISTED ON THE FLORIDA DOMESTIC VIOLENCE REGISTRY AND WAS RELEASED IN PRISON IN JULY 2021, THOUGH SAINT LUCIE COUNTY AND I HAVE THOSE RECORDS FROM SAINT LUCIE COUNTY, FLORIDA. MEANWHILE, TENANTS ARE FACING ILLEGAL RENT INCREASES, UNSAFE AND UNHEALTHY CONDITIONS, HARASSMENT AND NEGLECT FROM RHP PROPERTIES. THAT IS WHY I ASK THIS BOARD TO MAKE A FORMAL STATEMENT TO THE NEW YORK STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL, REQUESTING A FULL INVESTIGATION OF RHP PROPERTIES SUPPORT THE CORRECTIVE ACTION ON HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUES, RETALIATION AND LAWFUL RENT PRACTICES, AND SCRUTINIZE HIRING PRACTICES THAT ENDANGER TENANTS. I HAVE GIVEN YOU EACH A PACKET ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT YOU CAN DO AS A TOWN BOARD TO HELP US. I KNOW THAT WAS A BIG QUESTION THAT I'VE GOTTEN FROM MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. FINALLY, I AGAIN INVITE THE FULL BOARD TO COME TO AS GUESTS OF THE EAGLE CREST TENANTS ASSOCIATION FOR A WALKTHROUGH OF OUR COMMUNITY SO YOU CAN SEE THE CONDITIONS FIRSTHAND. AS I SAID, I THANK BETH LORENZ AND BOB REYNOLDS FOR COMING AND DOING ONE OF THOSE WALKTHROUGHS, ALONG WITH THE BUILDING CODE ENFORCEMENT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND I URGE YOU TO STAND WITH US CALLING FOR ACCOUNTABILITY. THERE'S 274 LOTS IN THERE, AND THAT MEANS A LOT OF CONSTITUENTS. SO PLEASE COME AND TAKE A LOOK. I'M BEGGING YOU. SOMEONE'S GOING TO GET HURT. ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T. THANK YOU. THANKS, DIANA. OH, AND FRANK, THANKS FOR HELPING OUT WITH THAT COUPLE IN THE PARKING LOT EARLIER. NO PROBLEM.

NEXT WE HAVE ZACHARY BEAUDOIN. BEAUDOIN. ZACHARY. STILL HERE? HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO COME BACK. I DON'T THINK HE MADE IT BACK YET. HE'S PROBABLY WATCHING ON THE SCREEN. SO.

OKAY. TAYLOR BRAUN. HE SPOKE DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND GARY WALTERS, WE HAVE. IT'S OUR

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SECOND OF ALL, ALL YOUR FRONTIER SCHOOL BUSSES COME TO PICK UP AND DROP OFF STUDENTS.

IF THAT CULVERT COLLAPSES WITH A SCHOOL BUS GOING OVER IT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE CHILDREN INJURED. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE DAMAGED BUS. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MAYBE PEOPLE IN REGULAR CARS MAYBE GET CAUGHT IN IT. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE. I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME. WE'VE HAD PROBLEMS WITH THE MANAGER. LIKE I SAY IN THE FACT THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE BRUSH THINGS OFF. THEY SAID THEY'RE GOING TO PUT A PAVILION IN THIS YEAR, HAVE EVENTS, FOOD TRUCKS, WHATEVER. THEY NEVER PUT IN A PAVILION. WE HAD LOT RENT INCREASES THAT HAVE GONE WAY BEYOND NORMAL. I'VE BEEN THERE SINCE 1999. WE PAID AT THAT TIME A LOT RENT OF ABOUT 379 A MONTH. WE'RE NOW OVER 820 SOME DOLLARS A MONTH. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE, LIKE OVERHEAD STREETLIGHTING. WE DON'T HAVE THAT. ALL WE HAVE ARE THE LIGHTS, THE LITTLE DECORATIVE LIGHTS THAT ARE IN FRONT OF EACH HOUSE, LIT BY A 75 OR 100 WATT BULB. AND THERE HAVE BEEN MANY TIMES I'VE SEEN I'VE BEEN SITTING OUTSIDE AT NIGHT LISTENING TO A BASEBALL GAME ON THE RADIO, AND YOU'D NEVER KNOW UNTIL SOMEONE ACTUALLY WALKS UP TO MY HOUSE THAT THERE'S A PERSON WALKING BY. HEAVEN FORBID THERE'S SOMEONE TRYING TO ROB SOMEBODY OR COME THROUGH. EVERYTHING ELSE IS LISTED ON THERE. I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE UP YOUR TIME SO YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND REVIEW THAT. BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME ON THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. WALTERS. THANK YOU. JUST HAD ANOTHER ADDITION TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT SHEET. JOSH COLLINS. HELLO. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE REFERENDUM THAT'S HAPPENING. SO WE'RE TWO WEEKS IN. WE HAVE 16 DAYS LEFT FOR THE REFERENDUM. WE HAVE OVER 800 SIGNATURES OF THE 1346 REQUIRED. THE FEEDBACK FROM PEOPLE. THERE HAVE BEEN FIVE PEOPLE THAT REFUSED TO SIGN BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BUILD IT FIVE. THERE'S BEEN SIX PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION ON IT. THERE'S BEEN ABOUT TWO PEOPLE WHO KNEW NOTHING ABOUT IT. AND EVERYONE'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S DEMOCRACY. I'M GOING TO SIGN THE REFERENDUM. SO THAT WAY AT A LATER DATE, WE CAN DECIDE YES OR NO ON IT, BECAUSE THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. AND, YOU KNOW, I'M ASKING THE BOARD AGAIN, INSTEAD OF FORCING THE PUBLIC REFERENDUM, WHICH OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE 30 DAYS TO GET THE SIGNATURES, JUST SEND IT TO A PUBLIC VOTE BECAUSE I HAVE A 95% SIGN RATE, BECAUSE PEOPLE DO WANT A CHANCE TO VOTE. THAT'S ALL THEY'RE ASKING FOR. THEY'RE NOT SAYING THEY'RE FOR OR AGAINST BUILDING IT. THEY'RE SAYING, HEY, WE WANT A CHANCE TO VOTE ON THIS, AS OPPOSED TO JUST LETTING THE BOARD DECIDE. AND I KNOW SOME PEOPLE HAVE THE ARGUMENT, WELL, THIS IS WHAT YOU WERE ELECTED FOR. WELL, THAT'S TECHNICALLY NOT TRUE BECAUSE KATHY HERE, SHE WAS NOT ELECTED. AND THEN WE HAVE. EXCUSE ME, MR. COLLINS. I WASN'T ELECTED OFFICIAL BEFORE I GOT APPOINTED TO THIS POSITION. YOU'RE NOT AN ELECTED SUPERVISOR. OKAY, SO YOU'RE NOT AN ELECTED SUPERVISOR. YOU TWO HAVE TWO YEARS LEFT. RIGHT? POINT OF ORDER. WITH INSULTING

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I APOLOGIZE. SO, LIKE I SAID, WHEN WE TALK TO PEOPLE, 95% OF THE PEOPLE DO SIGN THE REFERENDUM BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE LIKE, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT? THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH VOTING FOR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THIS COUNTRY IS BASED ON. SO I WOULD ASK YOU TO RECONSIDER IT, JUST, YOU KNOW, WEST SENECA, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO DO THEIR PUBLIC REFERENDUM ON WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD. IT'S JUST DEMOCRACY.

IT'S NOTHING AGAINST WHAT YOU GUYS WANT TO DO. IT'S JUST GIVEN US A CHANCE TO VOTE. SO, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE UPDATE ON WHERE THE REFERENDUM IS AT A 95% SIGN RATE. IT'S JUST A MATTER AS YOU KNOW, ALL OF YOU HAVE CANVASED BEFORE. YOU KNOW, HALF THE PEOPLE AREN'T HOME DURING THE DAY, SO IT'S JUST HITTING ENOUGH DOORS. BUT EVERYONE THAT WE TALKED TO IS PRO, YOU KNOW, DEMOCRACY. AND THEY DO WANT TO SIGN IT JUST FOR THEIR VOICE. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. SO YOU HAVE THE UPDATE ON IT. YOU KNOW WHERE WE'RE STANDING ON IT. YOU KNOW HOW CLOSE WE ARE, EVEN WITH SOME OF THE DISINFORMATION THAT'S BEEN PUT OUT THERE, THAT SIGNING THE REFERENDUM IS A NO, WHICH IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT A NO. IT'S JUST SENDING IT TO A VOTE. YEAH. I DIDN'T READ YOUR PETITION. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT STATES. I'M SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT SAYS, WHAT IT SAYS, WHAT ALL OF THEM SAY. IT JUST SAYS IT GOES TO A PUBLIC VOTE AND THAT'S ALL IT IS. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CURRENTLY IS YOU KNOW, WHERE I STAND. YOU KNOW, I HAVE PEOPLE OUT THERE GETTING SIGNATURES. YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY STAND ON IT. I'VE GIVEN YOU PRETTY MUCH THE NUMBERS OF, YOU KNOW, HOW PEOPLE ARE SIGNING IT AND THEY'RE FOR IT, YOU KNOW, JUST FOR THE VOTE. I'M NOT SAYING THEY'RE FOR OR AGAINST BUILDING IT. I'M JUST SAYING THEY'RE FOR VOTE. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

THANKS. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. COLLINS. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH. MISS HAHN. LAURA HAHN I'M 44, 61 STRATFORD TERRACE. I'M UPSET AT THE ACCUSATION HURLED FOR KATHY.

SHE'S BEEN AN ELECTED OFFICIAL FOR OVER 22 YEARS. SHE WAS THE PERFECT SELECTION FOR TOWN SUPERVISOR. SHE HAS THE EXPERIENCE TO GO FORWARD, AND IT'S DISRESPECTFUL TO THINK OTHERWISE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LAURA. ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY. WE'LL GO TO MEMBERS OF THE BOARD DEPARTMENT. I WANT TO GO. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD FIRST. OKAY, FRANK. YOU'RE FIRST.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR. JUST ON. ON WHAT? THE COMMUNITY CENTER. BECAUSE I DID VOTE LAST TIME. I BELIEVE, TO TABLE IT MY CONCERN. AND I JUST WANT TO GO ON THE RECORD WITH THIS. FOR THOSE THAT ARE PRESENT, THE. I HAD FOUND OUT THAT THE CONTRACTOR THAT THE THE BOARD HAD SELECTED WAS THE CONTRACTOR THAT HAD BUILT THE WEST SENECA COMMUNITY CENTER AND LIBRARY AND HAD GONE OVER ALMOST $4 MILLION OVER BUDGET. AND THERE WAS A NEW YORK STATE COMPTROLLER. INVESTIGATION, AND THE BOARD WAS FAULTED. AND SO I HAD ASKED MY COLLEAGUES THAT PERHAPS THEY WOULD TABLE THAT. AND THE EXAMPLE I'LL GIVE YOU IS, LET'S SAY SOMEONE COMES TO YOUR HOUSE AND SAYS THEY'RE GOING TO BID ON A ROOF OR A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, AND YOU FIND OUT THAT THAT CONTRACTOR IS HABITUALLY OVERCHARGING OR NOT FINISHING ON TIME. DO YOU SPEND THE MONEY OR DO YOU TABLE IT? AND SO WHAT I THINK, AND I BELIEVE THIS IN MY HEART, AND IF PEOPLE DISAGREE SOVIET. BUT I DO BELIEVE IN DEMOCRACY AND DOING DUE DILIGENCE. AND THAT'S WHY I HAD ASKED MY COLLEAGUES TO TABLE THE VOTE ON THE COMMUNITY OR SENIOR CENTER SO THAT WE COULD INVESTIGATE, TO FIND OUT IF THIS, IN FACT, WAS THE LOWEST BIDDER, BECAUSE SEVERAL BIDS CAME WITHIN 100,000. THE OTHER CONCERN THAT I HAD WAS THAT ALL MY COLLEAGUES IN THE UNION BUILDING TRADES KNOW THAT THE COST OF LABOR IS VERY HIGH RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THE STADIUM, AND THAT PERHAPS IF WE LOOKED A LITTLE AT DIFFERENT AT DIFFERENT TIMING, WE COULD GET A BETTER DEAL THERE. THERE ARE PEOPLE I TALKED TO ONE OF MY FRIENDS WITH IBEW THAT ARE WORKERS ARE GETTING PAID AN EXTRA $200 A DAY JUST TO BE HERE FROM PENNSYLVANIA AND OTHER TRADES AS WELL, CARPENTERS AND SO FORTH. SO THAT WAS MY THOUGHT. SO AND I ALSO THINK THE PROJECT LIKE THAT SHOULD BE UP TO THE VOTERS

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I JUST DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. I THINK THAT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WAS SIGNED AND IF YOU REALLY, TRULY FELT THAT, I KNOW IT'S ELECTION TIME. YOU'RE SEEM TO BE OPPOSED TO CERTAIN CANDIDATES OR SOMETHING. YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE SPENT THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF THE TOWN'S DOLLARS ON THE DESIGN OF THE PROJECT, THAT NOW YOU WANT TO TRY TO SQUASH. SO ANYWAYS, FOR.

FOR MEMBERS OF OUR JEWISH COMMUNITY, HAPPY ROSH HASHANAH, WHICH IS A HAPPY NEW YEAR, JEWISH NEW YEAR. SO ANYWAYS, I'M GOOD. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER FARRELL LORENZ. THANKS, DAN. I WON'T REPEAT A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT YOU JUST COMMENTED ABOUT, BUT I ALSO WANT TO THANK MARGOT VALENTI, WHO, AS YOU HEARD IN THE RESOLUTION, DID RESIGN FROM HER POSITION ON THE PLANNING BOARD. THE MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING BOARD, ZONING BOARD, THE MEMBERS OF ALL OF OUR DIFFERENT COMMITTEES ARE VERY HARD WORKING MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND ALL OF THEM PUT IN A LOT OF TIME, AND THEY TAKE THEIR DECISIONS VERY SERIOUSLY. AND SO I WANT TO THANK MARGOT FOR HER DEDICATION TO THE PLANNING BOARD AND WISH HER THE VERY BEST GOING FORWARD.

I DID. I ALSO, THOUGH, DO WANT TO SAY, AND AS I HAVE SAID MANY TIMES IN THE PAST, WE GREATLY APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC DURING OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS AND OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. IT HELPS US WITH THE DECISION MAKING AND THERE ARE VERY DIFFICULT DECISIONS, AND SOMETIMES YOU'RE WEIGHING RESIDENTS THAT MAY HAVE DIFFERING OPINIONS AND YOU HAVE TO SOMEHOW BRING BRING THAT TOGETHER. I WANT TO AGAIN, THANK JOSH ROGERS AND DREW RILEY, WHO HAVE CONTINUED THE PRACTICE OF HAVING INFORMATION MEETINGS OUT IN OUR LOBBY PRIOR TO WHEN WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. IT GIVES A MORE ONE ON ONE OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO ASK ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. AGAIN, IT'S ABOUT GETTING INFORMATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC, HELPING TO EDUCATE YOU SO THAT YOU CAN BE PART OF THAT DECISION MAKING PROCESS WITH US. AND SO I APPRECIATE THEIR HELP. I APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR INPUT. I

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THAT WAS THEIR PREFERENCE. THE INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS BUILDING THE PROJECT MET WITH THE RESIDENTS.

WE HAD PUBLIC MEETINGS HERE. IT WAS ONE OF THOSE VERY DIFFICULT DECISIONS THAT WE NEEDED TO LISTEN TO EVERYONE. AND AGAIN, THE IMPETUS FOR MY VOTE WAS THAT NOT ONLY DO WE SAVE AN ADDITIONAL FIVE ACRES OF TREES, BUT IT WAS PERMANENTLY DEEDED, MEANING THAT IT'S REGISTERED WITH THE COUNTY. IT CANNOT BE. IT CANNOT HAVE TREES TAKEN DOWN IN THE FUTURE. IT CANNOT BE REPURPOSED FOR SOMETHING ELSE. SO THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF A DIFFICULT DECISION. BUT I WENT WITH THE ONE THAT WAS LEAST INVASIVE TO THE SURROUNDING AREA, AND THAT ALSO REFLECTED WHAT THE RESIDENTS SAID WAS THEIR PREFERENCE OR A MAJORITY, A LARGE NUMBER OF THE RESIDENTS THERE. BUT IT WAS A DIFFICULT DECISION. IT WAS HARD FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED. BUT I THINK AGAIN, THAT'S AN EXAMPLE WHERE GETTING THE RIGHT INFORMATION OUT THERE IS SO IMPORTANT, PROVIDING PEOPLE WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK AHEAD OF TIME AND TALK THROUGH THEM IS SO IMPORTANT. SOMETIMES WE MIGHT NOT AGREE WITH THE END RESULT, BUT IF WE UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETIMES CAN GO A LONG WAYS, AND IN OUR COMMUNITY, I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT'S ABOUT COMING TOGETHER, TRYING TO COME UP WITH THE BEST DECISIONS TOGETHER, EVEN WHEN IT'S DIFFICULT. SO AGAIN, THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO'S ALWAYS INVOLVED IN IN THAT PROCESS.

AND THE SAME, I'LL JUST ECHO THE SAME THING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY CENTER. AND I'LL BE VERY BRIEF BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE COMMENTED, WE'VE COMMENTED A LOT. THERE WAS A LOT OF DUE DILIGENCE ON THIS PROJECT. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH REFERENDUMS. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH MORATORIUMS. WE'VE DONE THEM IN THE PAST. BUT AGAIN, AT THIS JUNCTURE, WITH THE YEARS OF PLANNING THAT TOOK PLACE WITH THE TAXPAYER DOLLARS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE SPENT REFLECTING CONSENSUS DECISION MAKING THAT WAS MADE BY THIS ENTIRE BOARD THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, I FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THE DECISION THAT WE MADE. I FEEL COMFORTABLE BECAUSE WE HAVE HEARD SO MUCH INPUT FROM INDIVIDUALS. I HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE CALLED UPSET. WE THOUGHT WE ALREADY CAME. WE CAME THREE YEARS AGO. WE ATTENDED ALL KINDS OF PUBLIC MEETINGS. WE LET OUR VOICES BE HEARD. IS THERE ACTUALLY A CHANCE THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE VERY UPSET. AND SO I EXPLAINED THE PROCESS TO THEM. I EXPLAINED THAT WHEN WE HAVE A BOND RESOLUTION THAT THAT LANGUAGE NEEDS TO BE THERE. BUT I DO CAUTION EVERYONE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET GOOD INFORMATION. IF YOU'RE NOT SURE, CALL. I AM GETTING CALLED BY PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING THAT WHEN THEY'RE BEING ASKED TO SIGN THE REFERENDUM, THEY'RE BEING TOLD THAT IT'LL BE ON THE BALLOT IN NOVEMBER. IT WILL NOT. OR THEY'RE BEING TOLD THAT IT WON'T DELAY THE PROJECT, WHICH IS ALSO NOT TRUE. OR THEY'RE BEING TOLD THAT IT WILL RAISE YOUR TAXES $600 A YEAR, WHICH IS ALSO NOT ACCURATE. WE HEARD FROM OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR LAST TIME. SO I JUST CAUTION YOU ALWAYS GREAT TO EXPLORE AN ISSUE, A TOPIC ABSOLUTELY ALL FOR DEMOCRACY. PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOU REACH OUT AND TRY TO GET ACCURATE INFORMATION SO THAT YOU ARE MAKING THE BEST DECISION FOR YOURSELF. I AM ALWAYS AVAILABLE. I'M MORE THAN WILLING. I TAKE PHONE CALLS ALL THE TIME. I MEET WITH PEOPLE ALL THE TIME. I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO MEET WITH ANYONE ABOUT ANY TOPIC, TO SIT DOWN, FACE TO FACE OR ON THE PHONE. DISCUSS IT WITH YOU AND THANK YOU AGAIN ALWAYS FOR YOUR INPUT AND FOR YOUR COMMITMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY. COUNCIL MEMBER COMERFORD. OKAY, I'M GOING TO TAKE A TOTALLY DIFFERENT SLANT ON THIS. LIKE USUAL, WHEN I'M UP HERE, I WANT TO TAKE THE TIME THAT I HAVE TO HAVE REPORTS ON THE BOARD TO CELEBRATE OUR COMMUNITY AND CELEBRATE WHAT'S GOOD IN HAMBURG, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHEN THE COMMUNITY COMES TOGETHER, WE DO REALLY INCREDIBLE THINGS AND WE SHOULD ALL GIVE OURSELVES A PAT ON THE BACK, BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES UP HERE YOU SIT AND YOU HEAR ALL OF THE SQUABBLING AND YOU FORGET HOW REALLY INCREDIBLE IT IS TO BE IN HAMBURG. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WANTED TO THANK LAKESHORE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THEY HAD THEIR OPEN HOUSE THIS WEEKEND AND THEY OPENED THEIR HOME TO THE COMMUNITY TO COME EXPLORE AND LEARN MORE ABOUT LAKESHORE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT. AND I HAVE TO SAY, WE WOULD BE LOST WITHOUT OUR VOLUNTEER FIREMEN AND EMTS.

THEY ARE WHAT MAKES OUR COMMUNITY GREAT, AND IT'S ALSO ONE OF THOSE SERVICES THAT EACH

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SO IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY IN YOUR LIFE THAT IS EVERYTHING IS VROOM VROOM AND ALL OF A SUDDEN HAS A MOTOR. YOU MAY WANT TO GO SEE HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENT ED HUGHES AND GO TAKE YOUR KID OR YOUR ADULT WHO STILL LIKES TO GO VROOM VROOM AND GO TAKE PICTURES WITH THE TRUCKS AND SEE WHAT THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT IS UP TO BEFORE THOSE SNOWFLAKES FLY. AND THE CLOSEST WE GET IS A SNOW PLOW GOING BY THE HOUSE. OCTOBER 24TH. WE HAVE TRUNK OR TREAT PUT ON BY OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT HAS OUTGROWN OUR ORIGINAL LOCATION AT TOWN HALL, AND I BELIEVE IT IS NOW AT THE ERIE COUNTY FAIRGROUNDS. IF YOU HAVE A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION THAT WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO FORTH, DO THAT OR FIND A COUPLE OF GROUPS TO WORK TOGETHER WITH, BECAUSE WE DO GO THROUGH A LOT OF CANDY. SO FIND ANOTHER GROUP THAT IS SIGNED UP. I'M SURE IF YOU CALL THE SUPERVISOR'S OFFICE, THEY CAN TELL YOU WHO HAS SIGNED UP, AND YOU CAN DONATE A BAG OF CANDY TO THEIR CAUSE BECAUSE THE KIDS LOVE IT. AND IT'S A GREAT, SAFE WAY TO CELEBRATE THE HOLIDAYS AND SEE ALL THOSE TRICK OR TREATERS. AND THEN ON OCTOBER 25TH, AS MUCH AS WE DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT DRUGS AND THE IMPACT THEY HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY, THE HAMBURG POLICE ONCE AGAIN HAVE ORGANIZED A DRUG TAKEBACK EVENT. PLEASE CONSIDER GOING THROUGH YOUR CABINETS. CLEAN OUT WHAT YOU DON'T USE. CLEAN OUT WHAT YOU NO LONGER HAVE AS AN ACTIVE PRESCRIPTION, BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT TEMPTATION IS PRESENT FOR SOMEBODY ELSE. OR HEAVEN FORBID, YOU HAVE THAT NIGHT WHERE YOU THOUGHT YOU TOOK ONE PILL AND YOU DIDN'T. YOU TOOK A DIFFERENT ONE BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T HAVE YOUR SPECTACLES ON AND YOU WERE TIRED. SO PLEASE CONSIDER PARTICIPATING IN THAT EVENT. PLEASE DON'T SHOVE OR WASH YOUR PILLS DOWN THE DRAIN. IT CREATES PROBLEMS FOR US MUNICIPAL WATER SUPPLY. AND WITH THAT, I THANK YOU ALL. I REMIND YOU THAT IT IS GETTING DARKER EARLIER, SO PLEASE BE CAUTIOUS BECAUSE THE KIDS ARE STILL OUT RIDING THEIR BIKES. I MEAN, IT'S 75 DEGREES OUT WHO WOULDN'T BE RIDING THEIR BIKE, BUT THEY'RE RIDING THEIR BIKES HOME FROM SPORTING EVENTS. WITH THAT BEING SAID TO HAMBURG JUST HAD THEIR HOMECOMING. FRONTIERS GOT THEIR HOMECOMING COMING UP.

I BELIEVE IT'S THE 10TH OF OCTOBER, SO PLEASE BE CAREFUL. PLEASE BE MINDFUL THAT YOU HAVE TEENAGE DRIVERS WHO ARE VERY EXCITED TO CELEBRATE THAT NIGHT AND WE'LL BE OUT WITH THEIR FRIENDS. JUST A LITTLE EXTRA CAUTION. THAT'S ALL. OKAY, BEFORE I GO TO DEPARTMENT HEADS, I JUST WANT TO BRING BRING EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION TO AN OPEN HOUSE AT THE HAMBURG HISTORICAL SOCIETY, AND EVERYONE IS WELCOME TO GO SEE THE BEAUTIFUL STAINED GLASS WINDOWS THAT WERE TAKEN OUT OF THE OLD MOTHER HOUSE. AND WITH THE. THANKING IMAGES OF GLASS FOR DOING THAT AND RESTORING THOSE WINDOWS, AND ALSO SINATRA DEVELOPMENT AND THE FRANCISCAN SISTERS OF SAINT JOSEPH. SO IT'LL START AT 12 AND GO UNTIL 3:00 AT THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY ON SOUTH PARK AVENUE. THEY CAN GO RIGHT FROM ONE EVENT TO THE NEXT, RIGHT? RIGHT. SO ANY DEPARTMENT HEADS WANT TO SAY ANYTHING TODAY, TAMMY. I JUST WANT TO MENTION BECAUSE AS WAS MENTIONED, THERE'S A LOT OF TOWN PROJECTS GOING ON, I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT TWO REAL QUICK. FIRST, MILESTRIP ROAD IS OPEN. IF ANYONE HAS NOT BEEN ADVISED YET, IT IS OPEN. THE CULVERT WORK IS COMPLETE. WE HAVE A COUPLE LITTLE MINOR CLEANUPS. WE GOT TO GET SOME GRASS TO GROW, AND I THINK WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THE JUST THE STRIPING OF THE SHOULDERS AND THE CENTER ROAD. BUT THAT ROADWAY IS NOW OPEN AND THAT PROJECT IS NEARLY WRAPPED UP.

GOOD BUSINESSES OVER. SO IT'S ABOUT TIME. YES. THE SECOND ONE IS THE INTERSECTION OF CLARK AND MCKINLEY. THAT PROJECT SHOULD WRAP UP IN ABOUT THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, SO THAT WORK HAS COME A LONG WAY OVER THE SUMMER. THE I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST IN GETTING THOSE CROSSWALKS OPENED, BUT WE WILL NOT ACTIVATE A CROSSWALK UNTIL EVERYTHING ASSOCIATED THE

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THERE'S NO CONCERNS. EVERYTHING WILL BE MARKED AND FUNCTIONING WHEN WE TURN THEM ON. TERRIFIC.

OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. KIMMY, YOU'RE WELL WORTH THE 75 GRAND. OKAY. JILL. HELLO? HELLO. I JUST WANTED TO KEEP EVERYBODY INFORMED. WE DID HAVE OUR INFORMATION AND WELLNESS FAIR WITH ASSEMBLY MEMBER JOHN RIVERA LAST WEEK. IT WAS FANTASTIC. WE HAD OVER 30 VENDORS THAT CAME, SHARED INFORMATION, GOT PEOPLE'S CONTACT INFORMATION, FOLLOWED UP WITH THEM. WE HAD BETWEEN 70 AND 80 PEOPLE. EVEN THOUGH IT WAS POURING RAIN THAT DAY, WE WERE VERY CONCERNED. THEY STILL CAME OUT AND WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD OVER 50% FOLLOW UP. WE ACTUALLY HAD A REPRESENTATIVE FROM HARMONIA THERE, SO THEY WERE ALSO ABLE TO CONNECT WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL FOR ANY DIFFERENT THING THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A VENDOR THERE FOR. AND WE'VE HAD PEOPLE CONTINUE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THAT. SO THAT WAS WONDERFUL. ON THURSDAY WE HAVE OUR FALL FESTIVAL. I KNOW IT IS CALLING FOR INCLEMENT WEATHER. WE ARE STILL GOING TO HAVE IT.

WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A RAIN LOCATION, HOPEFULLY FIGURED OUT BY TOMORROW MORNING, BUT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE IT. IT IS THURSDAY THE 25TH FROM 430 TO 730 AT TAYLOR ROAD. MUSIC, GAMES, CRAFTS, PUMPKINS, MORE AND MORE PLEASE COME. WE HAD OVER 150 PEOPLE LAST YEAR. THEY HAD A GREAT TIME. AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST OUR PAINTING PROJECT. WE STILL HAVE SOME SQUARES AVAILABLE IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO PAINT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE GOOD AT IT. I PROMISE IT WILL BE VOTED ON, BUT WE JUST WANT ANYTHING THAT IS HAPPY AND FUN, SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. THANK YOU. AND AGAIN THERE'LL BE RAIN LOCATION. I WILL KEEP YOU ALL POSTED ABOUT THE 25TH WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE. THANK YOU. OKAY. JUST PASS IT IN HERE TO THANK YOU.

HIGHWAY ZONE FOUR BRUSH THIS WEEK. SO PLEASE HAVE IT OUT. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT UP, TOUCH-A-TRUCK. WE GOT A GOOD RESPONSE BACK FOR IT, SO IT SHOULD BE PRETTY BUSY. ON SATURDAY, WASTE MANAGEMENT NOTIFIED US THEY ARE BEHIND. IF YOU IF YOU HAVE A LARGE TRUCK OR LARGE TRASH IT HAS TO BE PICKED UP. PLEASE CALL MY OFFICE BEFORE WEDNESDAY SO WE CAN GET YOU ON THE LIST. MAKE SURE IT GETS PICKED UP. OCTOBER 20TH IS THE LAST LAST LARGE, LARGE TRASH PICKUP. SO REMEMBER THAT FOR THE YEAR. AND AS ALWAYS, REMEMBER THE ELECTRONIC RECYCLING IS ALWAYS MONDAYS AND THURSDAYS. BEING THE ICE RINK IS OPEN, THE ICE IS OPEN. IT'S WENT PRETTY WELL. SO THE ICE LOOKS GREAT. AND THE GOLF COURSE AS OF TOMORROW, WE HAVE AN INTERN GROUNDSKEEPER THROUGH THE BIDDING PROCESS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. IT WILL BE CJ BOSWELL. HE'S A HE'S AN INTERN FOR 35 DAYS. AND IF IF EVERYTHING WORKS OUT, THEN WE WILL MAKE HIM PERMANENT. AFTER THAT. COME BACK TO THE BOARD WITH THAT. SO. OKAY. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THANKS. JOSH, FOR PLANNING. WE HAVE 2ND OCTOBER PLANNING BOARD MEETINGS, ONE ON OCTOBER 4TH, OCTOBER 1ST, ANOTHER ON OCTOBER 15TH. JUST TO ECHO EVERYONE'S SENTIMENTS, I'M GLAD PEOPLE CAME OUT FOR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR LAKEVIEW AND FOR THE OTHER PUBLIC HEARING. DOING ZONING FOR A TOWN OF 60,000 PEOPLE IS NOT EASY. I KNOW A LOT OF TIMES I COME UP HERE AND I USE ACRONYMS. I USE TERMS THAT MAY SEEM UNFAMILIAR TO PEOPLE. THE THING THAT I WOULD ALWAYS ENCOURAGE IS THAT MY PHONE DOWN IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS ALWAYS OPEN. I'M ALWAYS OPEN TO EXPLAINING THINGS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO PEOPLE'S PROPERTY. WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEVER WANT TO PULL THE RUG FROM UNDER SOMEBODY. SO WHEN IT COMES TO NOT ONLY THIS ZONING, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING FROM TWO WEEKS AGO. THESE AREN'T GOING TO BE THE ONLY ZONING PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT COME UP. THEY'RE GOING TO BE OTHER NOTICES THAT GO OUT TO PEOPLE. AND IF YOUR PROPERTY IS AFFECTED OR IF YOUR NEIGHBOR GETS AFFECTED, OR IF YOU JUST HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT ZONING MEANS, FEEL FREE TO TO CONTACT MY OFFICE. I'D TRY MY BEST TO EXPLAIN SOMETHING IN LAYMAN'S TERMS, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, ZONING IS NEVER EASY. BUT I DO MY BEST TO TRY TO EXPLAIN, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE TOWN, AND I'M ALWAYS OPEN TO HAVING A CONVERSATION IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS. SO GIVE ME YOUR CELL NUMBER. SO THANK YOU. THANKS, JOSH. I JUST WANTED TO THANK SEAN CROTTY, PETE DIENES AND BOTH OF THEIR DEPARTMENTS FOR THE NINE OVER 11 CEREMONY. IT WAS VERY WELL ATTENDED. FANTASTIC. THE EVERYTHING FROM START TO FINISH WAS VERY WELL DONE. SO I JUST WANT TO CONGRATULATE AND THANK EVERYONE INVOLVED. TAX BILLS ARE OUT THE IT'S EVIDENT BY THE

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KIM AND KIM'S DEPARTMENT OF MY DEPARTMENT WORKED TOGETHER ON A DAILY BASIS, AND IT'S IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOUR REAPPOINTED. SO CONGRATULATIONS KIM. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU.

IS THERE AN AGE LIMIT OR HEIGHT LIMIT ON THE COLORING? OH, ONE OTHER THING. RABIES CLINIC.

ANYBODY NEEDS RABIES SHOTS. THE 27TH 3359 BROADWAY FREE RABIES SHOTS. WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? WELL, YOU DID REMIND ME. I MEAN, YOU LOOKED AT ME WHEN YOU SAID IT. I'M JUST GOING. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK THE BOARD FOR REAPPOINTING ME. I LOVE MY JOB.

I LOVE WHAT I DO, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING THE RESIDENTS FOR ANOTHER SIX YEARS.

AND JUST A QUICK REMINDER TO EVERYBODY TO IT IS EXEMPTION SEASON AS THE TAX BILLS ARE OUT.

ANY QUESTIONS? THERE'S A LOT OF CHANGES TO THE EXEMPTIONS THIS YEAR. SO PLEASE JUST STOP IN OR GIVE OUR OFFICE A CALL. THANK YOU THANK YOU CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU THANK YOU MR. MAHONEY.

ANYTHING ABOUT THE GARBAGE MEETING? SIX? I WAS JUST GOING TO CHIME IN THERE TODAY. NEW DEPARTMENT HEAD. GARBAGE. GARBAGE. YEAH, YEAH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I HAVE SOME FLIERS I LEFT HERE IN THE COURTROOM. SEATS OCTOBER 6TH, 530, DOWNSTAIRS IN ROOM SEVEN A AND SEVEN B, I'LL BE HAVING INFORMATIONAL INFORMATIONAL ONLY ON WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PROCESS. WE'VE MADE ON THE GARBAGE ISSUE COMING COMING UP IN 2026. THEN THE TOWN BOARD MEETING WILL BE FOLLOWING THAT AT 7:00. SO ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, THE OCTOBER 6TH MEETING WILL BE THE PLACE TO COME TO TALK TO ME, AND I'LL GIVE YOU ALL THE INFORMATION AND ALL THE ANSWERS YOU NEED. AND ONE MORE COMMENT. SUPERVISOR PACZYNSKI RESPECT AND DIGNITY IS EARNED.

YOU'VE EARNED IT. I DON'T CARE WHAT ANYBODY ELSE SAYS. AND EVEN THOUGH BECAUSE WE KNOW EACH OTHER SO LONG, YOU'VE EARNED THE RESPECT AND DIGNITY OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. HEY, THE GARBAGE MAN. ANYBODY ELSE? ANY ANY REPORTS FROM THE POLICE? HERE THIS FRIDAY 24TH AT THE FAIRGROUNDS, 6 TO 8 P.M. IT'S POSTED ON OUR FACEBOOK PAGE AND OUR FLIERS OUT THERE WITH A QR CODE TO REGISTER. AND THAT'S IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. MAY I APPROACH THE ASK ONE QUESTION? I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE OF C2 PROPERTY WITHIN THE LAKEVIEW ZONE? PROBABLY THE ASSESSOR COULD GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION. YEAH, WE'D HAVE TO RESEARCH THAT AND LET YOU KNOW. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. MOTION TO ADJOURN.

SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.