[Call To Order] [00:00:08] MEETING TO ORDER. WE'LL START WITH THE ROLL CALL FROM THE CLERK SUPERVISOR. SUPERVISOR RACZYNSKI, PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER. COUNCIL MEMBER. COUNCIL MEMBER. COMERFORD. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. FARRELL. LORENZ. PRESENT. ALL PRESENT. OKAY. STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF THE FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG. STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OKAY. MINUTES [3. Minutes of Previous Meeting] OF PREVIOUS MEETING AUGUST 4TH, 2025. MOTION TO APPROVE A MOTION. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. CARRIED. OKAY. AND WE ARE GOING TO MOVE UP. NUMBER. ITEM NUMBER 410. TOWN OF [4.10.Town of Hamburg Refuse District SEQR Resolution] HAMBURG. REFUSE DISTRICT SEEKER RESOLUTION. NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED, THAT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD HAS DETERMINED THAT THE FUNDING AND IMPLEMENTING THE PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE TOWN'S LOCAL WATERFRONT REVITALIZATION PROGRAM, AND WILL NOT RESULT IN ANY SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE ENVIRONMENT, INCLUDING NATURAL, ARCHEOLOGICAL OR HISTORIC RESOURCES. AND A NEGATIVE DECLARATION IS HEREBY ISSUED BASED ON THE REASONS AS SET FORTH IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM AND ATTACHMENTS. AND BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED, THAT THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES TOWN SUPERVISOR TO SIGN THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM, WHICH WILL ACT AS A SECRET NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND AUTHORIZES THE PLACEMENT OF THESE DOCUMENTS IN THE TOWN FILES. SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE AYE AYE. CARRIED. ALL RIGHT, BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF THE AGENDA. 2025 TOWN OF HAMBURG. SEEKER LEAD [4.1. 2025 Town of Hamburg LWRP SEQR Lead Agency and Public Hearing Resolution] AGENCY AND PUBLIC HEARING RESOLUTION. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD AND COMMENCE THE SECRET REVIEW PROCESS FOR THIS ACTION BY CIRCULATING LEAD AGENCY NOTIFICATION LETTER, A COPY OF THE SECRET FULL ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM, AND A LINK TO THE DRAFT OF THE DOCUMENT TO ALL INVOLVED AGENCIES. BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES THE COORDINATED REVIEW PROCESS AS WELL AS THE REQUIRED 2239 COUNTY REFERRAL AND CONDUCT THE REQUIRED MAILINGS. BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD SET UP A PUBLIC HEARING FOR OCTOBER 20TH, 2025 AT 7 P.M. FOR DISCUSSION REGARDING THE ACCEPTANCE AND ADOPTION OF THE AMENDMENT AT WHICH ALL AT WHICH ALL INTERESTED PARTIES MAY BE HEARD. IS THERE A MOTION SO MOVED? SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. CARRIED. SCHEDULE 2026 FIRE COMPANY BUDGET HEARING. BE IT RESOLVED THAT [4.2. Schedule 2026 Fire Company Budget Hearing] THE TOWN CLERK BE AUTHORIZED TO ADVERTISE FOR PUBLIC HEARING. TO REVIEW THE REQUEST OF THE VARIOUS VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANIES AND FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICTS FOR THE 2026 CONTRACTS WITH THE TOWN. THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER 20TH, 2025 AT 7 P.M. LOCAL TIME. SO MOVE SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE AYE AYE. CARRIES. PUBLIC [4.3. Public Hearing-Local Law #7] HEARING. LOCAL LAW NUMBER 11. BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN CLERK BE AUTHORIZED TO ADVERTISE FOR PUBLIC HEARING ON PROPOSED LOCAL LAW NUMBER 11, 2025. THE PROPOSED LAW SEEKS TO OVERRIDE THE TAX LEVY LIMIT ESTABLISHED IN GENERAL MUNICIPAL LAW 3-C. THE HEARING IS TO BE SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER 20TH, 2025 AT 7 P.M. LOCAL TIME. SO ALL IN FAVOR? SO WE NEED A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'M SORRY. YES. WHO WAS THE SECOND? I'M SORRY. SUPERVISOR. THANK YOU. I'M THE I'M THE QUESTION. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? WHO SUBMITTED THIS RESOLUTION, I GUESS, IS THIS MISTER SHAY? IS HE SO? HE'S NOT MISTER SHAY. HE'S IN THE HALL. BUT MISTER, SHE'S NOT A COUNCIL MEMBER. OKAY, I'LL SPONSOR IT. OKAY. SO WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? THIS IS MEAN. THIS MEANS WE'RE HAVING A PROPOSAL. A PUBLIC HEARING FOR PUBLIC HEARING. PUBLIC HEARINGS TO DO WHAT? WHAT DOES IT SAY RIGHT THERE? I'M ASKING A QUESTION. YOUR SPONSOR IS A PROPOSED LOCAL LAW TO OVERRIDE THE TAX LEVY LIMIT ESTABLISHED IN GENERAL MUNICIPAL LAW THREE C. SO SO IF WE GO OVER THE TAX LEVY, WE NEED TO HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE TO OVERRIDE THE TAX LEVY OKAY. SO I JUST WANT TO GO ON RECORD AGAINST THIS RESOLUTION. I FEEL THAT. THE PUBLIC CAN. CAN YOU PLEASE I HAVE NOT FINISHED. SO WHEN I'M DONE YOU CAN TALK OKAY. SURE. SO LET ME FINISH. GOOD. I AM AGAINST RAISING ANY TAXES [00:05:04] AND THAT THIS IS A CONDITION PRECEDENT TO TO RAISING TAXES. THERE HAS TO BE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ISSUE. AND I FEEL THAT THE PROPOSED TAX INCREASE IS EGREGIOUS. I FEEL THAT WE NEED TO FIND COST CUTTING MECHANISMS WITHIN THE TOWN, JUST LIKE FAMILIES DO. I'VE LOOKED AT IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG. TAXES IN THE PAST TEN YEARS HAVE GONE UP OVER ABOUT ALMOST 28%, AND I THINK IT'S IRRESPONSIBLE FOR THIS BOARD TO ASK THE PUBLIC TO PAY MORE TAXES WHEN THERE ARE OTHER COST CUTTING MEASURES THAT CAN BE TAKEN. SO I JUST WANT TO GO ON RECORD SAYING, I'M GOING TO VOTE NO AND I WILL NOT VOTE FOR ANY TAX INCREASE WHATSOEVER, AS I DID NOT LAST YEAR. FRANK, I SHARE YOUR CONCERN ABOUT GOING OVER THE TAX LEVY, AND I DEFINITELY SHARE YOUR CONCERN ABOUT GOING OVER THE TAX CAP. I DO THINK WE NEED TO TIGHTEN OUR BELTS. I HAVE DEEP CONCERNS ABOUT DIPPING INTO THE GENERAL FUND BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN DOING IT FAR TOO OFTEN. WE NEED TO FIND ANOTHER WAY TO BALANCE THE BUDGET. THAT BEING SAID, THIS IS JUST ASKING FOR A PUBLIC HEARING AND I AM INTERESTED TO HEAR WHAT THE PUBLIC HAS TO SAY. I WANT TO ALWAYS MAKE SURE THAT WHAT I THINK THE RESIDENTS WANT US TO DO, OR WANT US TO VOTE IS ACTUALLY WHAT THEY SPEAK OF DURING THE MEETING. SO SINCE THIS IS JUST ASKING FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, IT'S NOT US GOING ALONG WITH IT. I THINK THAT WE SHOULD ASK EVERY DEPARTMENT HEAD TO COME UP WITH THE 7% REDUCTION IN WHAT THEIR BUDGET SHOULD BE, JUST LIKE FAMILIES DO WHEN THEY YOU DON'T GO OUT FOR A STEAK DINNER WHEN YOU'RE BROKE. RIGHT. SO WE THERE'S ROUTINELY WE WE SPEND MONEY ON THINGS THAT WE DON'T NEED TO SPEND MONEY ON. SO I, YOU KNOW, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I FEEL THAT WE SHOULD SUBMIT A MORE REASONABLE BUDGET AND BE MORE FISCALLY PRUDENT. I'M ALSO INTERESTED IN APPROVING THIS SO THAT WE CAN GIVE THE PUBLIC THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. I'M ALSO VERY INTERESTED IN HEARING WHAT THE PRESENTATION. WE HAVE NOT EVEN HAD THE PRESENTATION ON THE SUPERVISOR'S BUDGET YET, AND I WANT TO HEAR FROM OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR AND OTHERS ON THE BUDGET AS PRESENTED EACH YEAR AFTER THE SUPERVISORS BUDGET IS PRESENTED. I KNOW THAT I PERSONALLY GO AROUND AND MEET WITH ALL OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, AND I DO LOOK FOR WAYS THE TOWN BOARD IS THEN ALLOWED DURING THE NEXT TIME PERIOD TO OFFER AMENDMENTS TO THE SUPERVISOR'S BUDGET. THAT THEN BECOMES THE BUDGET THAT'S VOTED ON. SURE, WE DID IT LAST YEAR. WELL, ACTUALLY, I'LL IF I COULD FINISH THE STATEMENT, WE DID DO IT. I DID DO IT LAST YEAR. I'VE WORKED ON THAT ACTUALLY EVERY YEAR I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD. SO I WILL BE ENGAGING IN THAT SAME PROCESS TO NOT ONLY BE LISTENING AT THE PUBLIC HEARING, BECAUSE I WILL VOTE FOR THAT. THERE'S A PUBLIC HEARING SO WE CAN HEAR ABOUT THIS. I WILL ALSO BE LISTENING KEENLY TO OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR. DURING THAT PRESENTATION. I'LL ALSO BE MEETING WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, AS I ALWAYS DO, TO LOOK FOR THOSE POTENTIAL COST SAVINGS. AND THAT'S REALLY A PROCESS THAT I THINK HAS TO HAPPEN YEAR ROUND. IT'S HOW WE DO BUSINESS YEAR ROUND. IT'S HOW WE ADJUST OUR OPERATIONAL EXPENSES VERSUS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED. AND IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT CONVERSATION. IT'S A VERY COMPLEX CONVERSATION WITH A LOT OF MOVING PIECES. AND THE MORE INFORMATION WE CAN GET FROM NOT ONLY THE PUBLIC BUT ALSO OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS, ETCETERA, IT REALLY IS A TEAM EFFORT. SO THAT'S WHAT I'LL BE WORKING ON THE NEXT FIVE WEEKS UNTIL IT DOES COME TIME FOR US TO PRESENT AMENDMENTS. I AM CONFIDENT BECAUSE IN THE YEARS PAST, THE DEPARTMENT HEADS HAVE WORKED VERY COLLABORATIVELY TO COME UP WITH COST SAVINGS AND TO ALSO RETHINK HOW WE DO BUSINESS. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THOSE CONVERSATIONS AS I LOOK FORWARD TO THE PUBLIC HEARING ON OCTOBER 20TH AND THE BUDGET PRESENTATION. SO MY OPINION IS ALSO WHAT USUALLY WHEN FAMILIES GATHER, THEY GATHER AROUND THE KITCHEN TABLE. I GUESS THIS IS GOING TO BE OUR KITCHEN TABLE, WHERE YOU HAVE THE PUBLIC COME BY HERE AND GIVE US THEIR INPUT AND STUFF. BUT GOING FORWARD, I MEAN, WITH ALL THE CONTRACTS WITH THE UNION WORKERS, ALL THE CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE WITH THE OUTSIDE AGENCIES, THE COST OF LIVING, AS EVERYONE ELSE KNOWS, HAS GONE UP. THE COST OF DOING WORK HAS GONE UP. SO I DON'T THINK WE COULD JUST DO NOTHING WITHOUT HAVING A TAX INCREASE. THE TAXES WILL GO UP. I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW, HOW MUCH. AND THAT'S WHY I WANT TO HAVE THIS PUBLIC HEARING. IF YOU DON'T NOT INTERESTED WHAT THE PUBLIC HAS TO SAY, THEN CONTINUE YOUR NO VOTE. I'M THE ONLY PERSON THAT ACTUALLY THAT'S A VERY RUDE FOR YOU TO SAY. OH MY GOD, UNDER YOUR BREATH. IT'S NOT. I DIDN'T SAY, I DIDN'T SAY IT. I SAID IT OUT LOUD. WAS IT UNDER MY BREATH? SO HERE'S THE DEAL. I GUESS THE PROPOSED TAX INCREASE TO THE TOWN IS FAR IN EXCESS OF. THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX FOR THE LAST YEAR WAS ABOUT 2.5%. SO THIS IS AND I [00:10:07] KNOW THAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID A LOT OF POLITICAL STUFF, BUT IT SAYS VERY CLEARLY IN THE LANGUAGE. THE PROPOSED LOCAL LAW SEEKS TO OVERRIDE THE TAX LEVY LIMIT ESTABLISHED BY GENERAL MUNICIPAL LAW, SECTION THREE C, WHICH THE STATE PUTS A CAP ON IT. SO THIS IS A PROPOSAL TO INCREASE TO GO ABOVE WHAT THE STATE MANDATES. I'VE EXPRESSED MY OPINION. WE WILL ALL VOTE. AND I'M JUST TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW I WILL NOT VOTE TO RAISE TAXES. THAT'S IT. SO BUT THIS IS WANT TO VOTE NO. I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE SAYING IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING THE PROCESS AND YOU SAID THAT. SO THERE'S A SECOND. I'M READY TO VOTE ON IT. I KNOW. ARE WE DOING ROLL CALL VOTE. SURE. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE. FRED. SUPERVISOR RYBCZYNSKI. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BUKOWSKI. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. KOZUB. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. COMERFORD. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. FARRELL. LORENZ. YES. MOTION IS APPROVED. 3 TO 2. NUMBER FOR [4.4. SPCA renewal Contract 2025-2026] SPCA RENEWAL CONTRACT 2022 2026. NOW, THEREFORE, BE RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN ENTERS INTO THIS AGREEMENT WITH THE SPCA AND SUPERVISOR. SUPERVISOR RYBCZYNSKI IS AUTHORIZED TO SIGN THE AGREEMENT ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN. SO MOVED SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. CARRIED. [4.5. Lake Shore Volunteer Fire Company Member Requests] LAKESHORE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY MEMBER REQUEST BE RESOLVED. HENRY TOWN BOARD DOES HEREBY APPROVE THE REQUEST OF LAKESHORE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY TO ADD TO THE RANKS OF THEIR MEMBERSHIP THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS JALEEL JOSEPH, ROBERT CRAWFORD, AND DEATON M GRANT. SO MOVED SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, I CARRY. NUMBER SIX. BIG TREE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY [4.6. Big Tree Volunteer Fire Company Member Requests] MEMBERS REQUEST. BE IT RESOLVED, THAT THE TOWN BOARD IS HEREBY APPROVE THE REQUEST OF VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY, HEREBY TO ADD THE RANKS OF THEIR MEMBERSHIP. THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS JILLIAN ERNST AND TANYA LUTZ. SO SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, CARRIE. NUMBER [4.7. POLICE –Budget Amendment] SEVEN, POLICE BUDGET AMENDMENT. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVES THE RECEIPT OF THE FOLLOWING MONIES AND APPROVES THE BUDGET AMENDMENT TO THE REVENUE ACCOUNT AS FOLLOWS. SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. CARRIED. NUMBER EIGHT. BUDGET, [4.8. POLICE – Budget Amendment and Purchase] AMENDMENT AND PURCHASE FOR POLICE. NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED. TOWN BOARD HEREBY AUTHORIZES A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO TRANSFER AVAILABLE FUNDS IN THE ACCOUNT AS FOLLOWS. ASSET FORFEITURE TO THE ACCOUNT AS FOLLOWS. POLICE DEPARTMENT PERMANENT IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AMOUNT OF $29,158 TO COVER THE COST OF THE WINDOW REPLACEMENT, SO MOVED SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. THE QUESTION ON THE QUESTION WHAT? WHAT DOES THIS MEAN, MISTER SHAY? YEAH. RIGHT HERE IT SAYS THERE'S. YES, THAT'S FOR THE POLICE. RIGHT? RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS. BUT THERE'S THREE NUMBERS HERE. IT SAYS WINDOWS $29,158, STELLAR ROOFING AND HOME $34,000. RENEWAL BY ANDERSEN $52,290. SO ARE THESE THE BIDS THAT WERE. YES. OKAY. WHERE'S THIS MONEY GOING TO COME FROM? THE 29,000. FROM OUR ASSET FORFEITURE FUND? OKAY. SO IT'S IT'S NOT FROM ANY OTHER SOURCE OTHER THAN THE PREVIOUS TRANSFER. CORRECT. OKAY. BECAUSE PREVIOUS TO THAT IT SAYS 18,000 WAS JUST TRANSFERRED 514. SO HOW MUCH DO WE HAVE IN THE ASSET FORFEITURE FUND? I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT FIGURE. IT'S OVER PROBABLY $250,000. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU'RE WELCOME. I, I'M GOING TO VOTE NO ON THIS BECAUSE I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING TO RAISE TAXES, I THINK WE SHOULD BE MORE FISCALLY PRUDENT. THERE'S ONLY CERTAIN AREAS YOU CAN USE THAT FUNDING FROM. THAT'S FORFEITURE MONEY THAT'S COMING IN, THAT'S FROM OTHER MEANS. AND IT CAN ONLY BE USED IN CERTAIN THINGS. IT'S NOT TAXPAYERS DOLLARS, BUT OKAY. MISTER SHAY, CAN YOU CLARIFY WHAT ASSET FORFEITURE MONEY CAN BE USED ON? IT GOES INTO THE GENERAL FUND OF THE FUND, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY THE PURVIEW OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO THEY CAN USE IT FOR THINGS THAT THE BOARD WOULD GIVE THEIR APPROVAL. SO IT'S NOT LIMITED PER SE, BUT THE BOARD HAS TO APPROVE WHAT THOSE FUNDS ARE GOING TO USE. SO MOST IN YOUR ESTIMATION, IT COULDN'T BE USED TO LIKE COVER POLICE SALARIES OR THINGS LIKE THAT. OKAY. WHAT LIKE WHAT ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT IT COULD BE USED FOR. WINDOWS AND. POLICE EQUIPMENT. TRAINING EQUIPMENT. IT'S THE TRAINING EQUIPMENT IS THE BIG ONE, BUT IT CAN'T BE [00:15:08] USED TO SUPPLEMENT THE BUDGET. GOTCHA. SO IT COULDN'T BE FOR LIKE LIKE IT COULD BE USED FOR EQUIPMENT, LIKE IT COULD BE USED FOR GUNS, CARS, THINGS LIKE THAT. SOMETIMES THERE'S CONFERENCES THAT VESTS. CORRECT, WHICH WOULD FALL UNDER EQUIPMENT. OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU CHIEF. YEAH. OKAY. GOOD ONE. FIRST A SECOND OVER OKAY. FOR FOR ONE. YEAH. OPPOSED. YES. [4.9. Highway Budget Amendment] NUMBER NINE, HIGHWAY BUDGET AMENDMENT THEREFORE BE RESOLVED THAT THE EXPENSE ACCOUNT AS FOLLOWS BE INCREASED BY $1,230. SO MOVED SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. CARRIED NUMBER TEN WAS [4.11.2025 - 2026 JCAP Grant] ALREADY ADDRESSED. NUMBER 1120 2526 JCAP GRANT RESOLVED, THAT THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES THE HAMBURG TOWN JUSTICE COURT TO APPLY FOR A JUSTICE COURT ASSISTANT GRANT JCAP IN THE 20 2526 GRANT CYCLE UP TO $30,000. SO MOVED. SECOND, IS BRIGITTE HERE? NO, I DON'T THINK SO. DO WE KNOW WHAT THE MATCH IS ON THIS ONE? I DON'T IT DIDN'T STATE IN HERE. YOU DON'T THINK THERE IS ONE? I DON'T THINK ON PAT IN THE PAST. THIS IS THE SAME GRANT THAT SHE'S APPLIED FOR BEFORE. I DON'T BELIEVE THIS ONE HAS A MATCH, DOES IT? THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. OKAY. JUST PETITIONED FOR THE GRANT ITSELF, RIGHT? USE IT FOR THE PURPOSES SHE CITES IN THE GRANT. RIGHT. OKAY. PERFECT. I WAS JUST MAKING SURE WE WEREN'T COMMITTING TO MATCH WITHOUT HAVING A FUN LINE. SOME DELINEATED FOR IT. THANKS. GOOD. ALL IN FAVOR, I NUMBER 12 [4.12.Assessment Board of Review-Reappointment of Robert Hutchison] ASSESSMENT BOARD OF REVIEW. REAPPOINTMENT OF ROBERT HUTCHINSON. RESOLVED. THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD DOES HEREBY APPROVE THE REAPPOINTMENT OF ROBERT HUTCHINSON TO THE ASSESSMENT REVIEW BOARD, EFFECTIVE TEN ONE, 2025, THROUGH 930 2030. SO MOVED [4.13.Youth, Recreation, & Senior Services P.A.F.] SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. CARRIED YOUTH AND SENIOR SERVICES. BE IT RESOLVED, THE TOWN BOARD APPROVED THE DETERMINATION AND HIRING A PERSONNEL FOR THE YOUTH, RECREATION AND SENIOR SERVICES DEPARTMENT AS FOLLOWS. SO MOVED SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL IN [4.14.Traffic Safety Advisory Board-Camp Rd & Howard] FAVOR? AYE. AYE. CARRY 14 TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD, CAMP ROAD AND HOWARD. NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED, THAT THE TOWN OF HAMBURG TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZES THE COORDINATOR OF THE TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD TO SUBMIT THE PROPER PAPERWORK TO THE NEW YORK STATE DOT. SO MOVED. SECOND. THANK YOU, MATT, WHEREVER YOU ARE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. CARRIED. [4.15.Schedule 2026 Budget Hearing] NUMBER 15 SCHEDULE 2026 BUDGET HEARING. BE IT RESOLVED, THE TOWN CLERK IS AUTHORIZED TO ADVERTISE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 2026 TOWN OF HAMBURG BUDGET. THE HEARING IS SCHEDULED TO BE SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER 20TH AT 7 P.M. LOCAL TIME. SO MOVED SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? WE DON'T WANT A PRESENTATION ON THE BUDGET. THE MOTION WAS [4.16.B&G PAF] CARRIED, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT ANY DEBATE WOULD HAPPEN IF YOU UNDERSTAND THE RULES. NUMBER 16 BEING DEAF, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVES THE TERMINATION HIRING OF THE FOLLOWING EMPLOYEES IN BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS. SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. [4.17.Retainment of Outside Legal Counsel] CARRIED NUMBER 17 RETAINMENT OF OUTSIDE LEGAL COUNSEL. NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED, THAT PRIOR TO THE ENGAGEMENT OF OUTSIDE LEGAL COUNSEL FOR ANY MATTER, THAT THE TOWN BOARD MUST WANT TO PROVE THE NECESSITY OF RETAINING OUTSIDE LEGAL COUNSEL, DETERMINING WHETHER SUCH SERVICES ARE WARRANTED, AND CANNOT BE EFFECTIVELY HANDLED BY THE INTERNAL LEGAL DEPARTMENT, AND TO APPROVE THE SELECTION OF THE SPECIFIC OUTSIDE LEGAL COUNSEL FIRM TO BE ENGAGED, INCLUDING THE SCOPE OF WORK IN TERMS OF ENGAGEMENT. BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT NO OUTSIDE LEGAL COUNSEL SHALL BE RETAINED, NOR ANY CONTRACTS OR FEE ARRANGEMENTS EXECUTED WITHOUT THE EXPRESS APPROVAL OF THE TOWN BOARD BY MAJORITY VOTE. SO MOVED SECOND. AND THE QUESTION I LOOKED AT THE PROPOSED BUDGET AND THE PROPOSED TAX INCREASE. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS CITED BY MISTER SHAY AND THE EMAIL TO ME, OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR, WAS THE INCREASING LEGAL COSTS. WE DO HAVE THREE ATTORNEYS THAT WORK WITHIN THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT. AND THE REASON I BROUGHT FORTH THIS MOTION IS THAT PRIOR AND THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE BEST PRACTICES IN OTHER TOWNS. I SPOKE TO MY COLLEAGUES ON OTHER BOARDS. CURRENTLY, MR. FARRELL IS THE ONE THAT DECIDES HE GOES OUTSIDE COUNSEL. WHAT THIS DOES IS IT PUTS THE CHECKS AND BALANCES ON IT, BECAUSE CERTAIN THINGS I THINK SHOULD BE DONE INTERNALLY AND NOT NECESSARILY FARMED OUT. NUMBER ONE. AND NUMBER TWO, IT ALLOWS US TO REVIEW WHAT THOSE CONTRACTS ARE. SO I THINK IT MAKES GOOD FISCAL SENSE TO LOOK AT THIS THE SAME WAY THAT AN INDIVIDUAL, IF YOU WERE LOOKING TO HIRE A LAWYER, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE DOING IT IN THE PROPER WAY AND GETTING A FAIR DEAL. AND I THINK IT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S DONE IN OTHER TOWNS AND COMMUNITIES. SO I WOULD ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS [00:20:01] RESOLUTION. MR. SHAY, IN THE EMAIL THAT YOU SENT TO US, DID YOU PROVIDE US WITH SOME EXPLANATIONS FOR THE DIFFERENT POINTS THAT YOU COVERED THERE ABOUT SOME OF THE AREAS, FOR EXAMPLE, THE AREA THAT'S BEING SPOKEN ABOUT NOW, DID YOU PROVIDE AN EXPLANATION TO US? IT WAS JUST IN GENERAL, IT WAS IN DISCUSSION ABOUT NON-DISCRETIONARY SPENDING SO THAT THERE WERE SALARIES, BENEFITS, AND THEN THERE'S A CLASSIFICATION OF OTHER THAT DOESN'T HIT THOSE BIG TWO LEGAL COSTS ARE IN THERE WITH SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS LIKE BENEFITS, CONSULTING, ETC. SO IT'S NOT STRICTLY LITIGATION, BUT IT'S A BIG PIECE OF IT. WHEN WE PUT TOGETHER OUR BENEFITS AND WE WORK WITH THOSE TEAMS. SO JUST TO SUPPORT EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON IN THE TOWN IN ADDITION TO THE LITIGATION, AND WAS THERE AN EXPLANATION YOU PROVIDED FOR THAT UPTICK IN THE LITIGATION OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS? OH, I'M SORRY. PART OF THE REASON IS WHAT WE BUILT INTO THE BUDGET IS AN ANTICIPATION OF FURTHER ASPHALT LITIGATION. SO JUST TO BE SAFE, WE HAD TO BUILD SOMETHING IN THERE IN ANTICIPATION OF LITIGATION, LITIGATION COSTS COMING DOWN THE ROAD. WE PROBABLY SPENT BETWEEN 350 AND $500,000 ON THIS CASE SO FAR. SO I THOUGHT THE NUMBER THAT YOU WROTE IN THE EMAIL WAS $446,000, IS WHAT I RECALL READING. BUT I WOULD POINT OUT TO THE COLLEAGUES THAT MRS. FARRELL LORENZ, HER BROTHER, IS THE TOWN ATTORNEY. SO IF SHE'S GOING TO VOTE ON THIS, THE BEST PRACTICE IS TO DISCLOSE THE POTENTIAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST THAT EXISTS AS A FIDUCIARY ON THE BOARD. I MEAN, I MEAN, SHE PROBABLY SHOULD RECUSE HERSELF ON THE VOTE, BUT BUT IT IS HER BROTHER WHO IS THE TOWN ATTORNEY. AND I KNOW SHE'S ASKING SOME QUESTIONS, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY THAT ANYONE'S DOING ANYTHING WRONG. I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE SHOULD BE MORE PRUDENT IN HOW WE HANDLE THESE MATTERS. MYSELF, I ACTUALLY SOUGHT OUT TO TRY TO GET MR. FARRELL TO TO COME AND BE OUR TOWN ATTORNEY. KEN, AT THE TIME, I BELIEVE, WAS OUT IN EVANS OR SOMEWHERE. IT'S NO BIG SECRET THAT MR. FARRELL IS A REPUBLICAN, BUT THE TOWN OF DEMOCRATS HIRED HIM BECAUSE OF HIS EXPERTISE. I FEEL MR. FARRELL HAS SAVED THIS TOWN A LOT OF MONEY BY DOING WORK HIMSELF, WHERE MOST ATTORNEYS WOULD HAVE FARMED IT OUT. AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT IF I HAD SOMETHING SERIOUSLY WRONG WITH ME, I WOULD GO TO AN ATTORNEY TO FIND OUT WHO'S THE BEST ATTORNEY TO DO THE JOB THAT I NEED DONE. SO THAT'S WHAT MR. FARRELL IS HERE TO DO. I COULDN'T TELL YOU ONE ATTORNEY FROM THE OTHER. IF HE'S A, YOU KNOW, AN AMBULANCE CHASER OR IF HE'S A FINANCIAL ATTORNEY. AND BESIDES THAT, I. IF I'M MISTAKEN, MR. FARRELL, PLEASE CORRECT ME A LOT OF THESE LAWSUITS OR THINGS SUCH AS ACCIDENTS OR ANYTHING, OUR INSURANCE COMPANIES MOST LIKELY HAVE THE ATTORNEYS FOR US. YES. THAT'S CORRECT. PURSUANT TO THE INSURANCE POLICY THAT GOVERNS THE INSURANCE PROGRAM THAT INSURES THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, PARTICULARLY IN THIS CASE, THE CARRIER IS NYMR, WHICH IS THE NEW YORK STATE MUNICIPAL INSURANCE. RECIPROCAL. PURSUANT TO THAT CONTRACT, GENERAL LIABILITY AND OTHER CLAIMS, THE DEFENSE COUNSEL IS ASSIGNED BY NYMR, NOT MYSELF. MOST OF THE OTHER ATTORNEYS ACTUALLY ARE CURRENTLY WORKING AS OUTSIDE COUNSEL FOR THE TOWN OF PROBABLY BEEN INHERITED THE ASPHALT PLANTS. ONE EXAMPLE ALL THE ARTICLE SEVEN ATTORNEYS BECAUSE THEY ARE VERY WELL ESTABLISHED IN A NICHE SPECIFIC AREA FOR ARTICLE SEVEN TAX CHALLENGES. TAX ASSESSMENT CHALLENGES HAVE BEEN HELD OVER FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ONLY CONTINUITY OF COUNSEL DEFENDING US, BECAUSE THEY'RE HIGH LEVEL OF EXPERTISE IN A VERY NARROW NICHE AREA FOR PRACTICE. AND ALSO, THERE ARE OTHER AREAS WHERE WE USE ATTORNEYS, BUT MOST OF THEM, FRANKLY, HAVE NOT BEEN ASSIGNED BY ME. BUT IN THE CASES WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN, I'M FOLLOWING THE PROGRAM. AND THE DIRECTION OF THE TOWN BOARD HAS BEEN FOLLOWED FOR DECADES IN TERMS OF MAKING THOSE ASSIGNMENTS. AND I HAVE ACTUALLY, IN ALMOST ALL CASES, CONSULTED WITH THE TOWN BOARD BEFORE DOING SO AND REVIEW THOSE ENGAGEMENTS. I THINK THAT THEN IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE NO OPPOSITION TO THIS, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU'RE CONSULTING WITH US, ALL THAT THIS LEGISLATION PROVIDES IS THAT PRIOR TO THERE BEING A UNILATERAL DECISION BY MR. FARRELL AS TO WHO THE ATTORNEY IS, THAT YOU WOULD CONSULT WITH THE TOWN BOARD TO PROVIDE A CHECKS AND BALANCES. WE ARE FIDUCIARIES, SO WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY OF FISCAL OVERSIGHT AND ALSO TO ENGAGE IN PROPER COUNSEL AND DO RESEARCH. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, DURING THE LITIGATION OF THE ASPHALT PLANT, SOME CITIZENS CAME TO ME AND HAD SAID THERE WAS SOME FIRMS THAT HAD NEVER LOST, THAT HAD NEVER LOST A CASE LIKE THIS, EVER. NOW I SAID, WHY DON'T WE CHECK THAT OUT? BECAUSE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE DON'T HAVE AN ASPHALT PLANT. AND THEN I STARTED DOING SOME DIGGING AND I SAID, GEE, SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE HAD GIVEN MONEY TO YOUR SISTER THAT FROM THAT LAW FIRM, SOME HAD GIVEN MONEY TO RANDY HOAK. AND THESE ARE THESE ARE THINGS THAT COME UP. SO WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU, BECAUSE IT [00:25:02] WOULD PROTECT YOU AS WELL, WHY NOT BRING IT TO THE BOARD'S ATTENTION AND SAY, WE HAVE A LITIGATION MATTER? AND I DO UNDERSTAND WITH INSURANCE COMES THE OBLIGATION OF DEFENSE WHEN IT COMES TO, SAY, A CAR ACCIDENT. THAT'S TRUE FOR CITIZENS AS WELL. IF YOU HAVE STATE FARM INSURANCE AND YOU'RE IN AN ACCIDENT, THEY'RE GOING TO PROVIDE YOU AN ATTORNEY. THAT'S THE LAW IN NEW YORK. THAT'S THE LAW FOR FOR OUR STATE. BUT IN THESE INSTANCES, I THINK IT'S FISCALLY PRUDENT AND MORE PRUDENT TO ALLOW US TO BE INVOLVED IN IT. IT'S ALSO WHAT OTHER TOWN BOARDS DO. AND I THINK TRANSPARENCY IN GOVERNMENT AND OPENNESS IS WE ARE HERE TO SERVE THE PEOPLE. THAT'S WHAT OUR JOB IS. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS TRANSPARENCY. AND IF MY COLLEAGUES VOTE AGAINST THIS, THEY'RE SAYING THEY DON'T WANT TRANSPARENCY. AND IF THAT'S WHAT THEY IF THEY DON'T WANT IT, THAT'S FINE. THEY'LL VOTE AGAINST IT. I INTRODUCED THIS AND I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR IT BECAUSE IT'S WHAT THEY DO IN TONAWANDA. IT'S WHAT THEY DO IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD DO HERE. FRANK, I THINK THERE'S SOME VALUE TO WHAT YOU PUT FORWARD BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT FOR RESIDENTS BEFORE WE GET TO BUDGET SEASON TO UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH WE'RE SPENDING IN LEGAL EVERY YEAR AND EVERY YEAR I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD, THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN THE QUESTION, WHY ARE WE SPENDING SO MUCH ON LEGAL? AND WHEN YOU EXPLAIN ISSUES LIKE, WELL, THERE'S THE ASPHALT PLANT OR THERE'S OTHER LAND LITIGATION ISSUES GOING ON, IT MAKES MORE SENSE. BUT UNTIL WE GET TO OCTOBER, IT'S USUALLY SOMETHING WE DON'T TALK ABOUT BECAUSE YOU'RE IT'S KIND OF LIKE ONE OF THOSE UNSIGHTLY THINGS. YOU DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE LITIGATION. SO I DON'T SEE ANY HARM. AND I HAVE APPRECIATED WHEN MR. FARRELL AND OTHER COUNSEL HAVE COME TO US AND DISCUSSED WHO THEY'RE GOING TO BRING AND WHO THEY'RE GOING TO HIRE, I THINK THIS MAY JUST BE A SAFEGUARD WE'RE PUTTING IN PLACE THAT IF THERE COMES A DAY WHERE WE DO NOT HAVE A TOWN ATTORNEY THAT'S WILLING TO DISCUSS THOSE THINGS WITH US, THERE'S AT LEAST A SAFEGUARD FOR THE BOARD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SPENDING MONEY WISELY. THE RESIDENTS KNOW HOW MUCH WE'RE PAYING IN LEGAL EVERY YEAR, AND THEY'RE AWARE THAT THOSE LITTLE LEGAL EXPENSES OF 20,000 HERE, 50,000 HERE, ARE GOING TO QUICKLY ADD UP TO OUR LARGE NUMBER THAT WE SOMETIMES SEE IN THE BUDGET. THAT'S APPARENTLY CREATING NIGHTMARES SOME NIGHTS FOR MR. SHAY. BUT I THINK THERE'S VALUE IN IT. I THINK THERE'S VALUE IN AT LEAST THE RESIDENTS KNOWING ALL ALONG, DURING THE COURSE OF THE YEAR HOW MUCH WE'RE SPENDING. I DON'T AGREE WITH YOU. I AGREE THAT THE TOWN ATTORNEY SHOULD BE I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER TOWNS DO, AND I DON'T, I DON'T PARTICULARLY CARE. THIS IS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG. I DON'T WANT TO HAVE A WE DON'T KNOW. YOU TALK ABOUT SOME TOWN ATTORNEY BEING THERE. WHAT IF THERE'S A TOWN BOARD UP HERE THAT JUST WANTS KICKBACKS TO HIRE SOME CERTAIN ATTORNEYS FOR THIS OR FOR THAT? I'M LOOKING AT NOT AT THIS BOARD. I'M LOOKING AT THE FUTURE OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG. AND I BELIEVE THAT THE TOWN ATTORNEY SHOULD BE THE ONE THAT'S HIRED BY THE BOARD, AND HE SHOULD BE THE ONE TO FIGURE OUT WHO'S THE BEST ATTORNEY FOR THE TOWNSPEOPLE. THAT'S ALL I BELIEVE. I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUE. SHE'S A DEMOCRAT. I'M A REPUBLICAN. THAT THAT WE SHOULD HAVE AN OPEN PROCESS BECAUSE PEOPLE DO TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH WE SPEND. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IT BE OPEN THAT, THAT THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT IT'S NOT DONE IN SOME BACKROOM DEAL, BECAUSE I'VE HAD SOME ATTORNEYS THAT HAVE COME BEFORE US THAT I WAS SHOCKED THAT THEY PASSED THE BAR. THE ONE GUY CAME, HE CAME TO US IN AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, AND I ASKED HIM HE WAS REPRESENTING US IN IN POLICE NEGOTIATIONS ON BEHALF OF US AGAINST WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND I SAID, DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE POLICE CONTRACT? AND HE GOT REALLY OFF AT ME. HE LOOKED AT ME. HE HAD A DUMMY FILE LIKE IT'S AN OLD LAWYER TRICK WHERE HE HAD A FILE AND HE DIDN'T HAVE A COPY OF THE CONTRACT. HE WAS NEGOTIATING, AND I AND I JUST WANTED TO KNOW. AND YOU KNOW WHAT THE GUY SAID TO ME? HE GOES, WELL, THIS ISN'T A CROSS EXAMINATION, MR. BUKOWSKI. AND I SAID, I'M ON THE BOARD, AND I WANT TO KNOW, YOU'RE OUR LAWYER, MAN. LIKE, I WANT TO KNOW, LIKE, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THIS CONTRACT AND YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE A COPY OF IT. AND TO ME, THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT YOU COME BEFORE THE BOARD. WE'RE NOT. I'D LIKE TO AVOID ANY BACKROOM DEALS. I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOU SAID KICKBACKS. WHAT IF THE TOWN LAWYER. I'M NOT SAYING, KEN. BUT WHAT IF THERE'S A TOWN LAWYER THAT WE HAS THAT WE HAVE BECAUSE WE'RE DEALING WITH HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, RIGHT. AND THEN YOU HAVE YOU HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. LET'S MAKE IT TRANSPARENT. WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT SAYING ANYTHING BUT THAT LET'S BRING IT. AND IF YOU VOTE AGAINST THIS, THEN YOU'RE AGAINST TRANSPARENCY AND YOU'RE FOR BACKROOM DEALS AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE FOR. SO FOR ME, I SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE I WANT MORE TRANSPARENCY IN GOVERNMENT. AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION. JUST FOR FACTUAL CLARIFICATION, THE ATTORNEY WHO SHALL REMAIN UNNAMED, WAS NOT ASSIGNED BY ME, CERTAINLY, BUT HE WAS SERVING FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS ON CONTINUING CERTAIN MATTERS. THANK YOU. AND THAT IS AND THAT IS ABSOLUTELY 100% [00:30:07] ACCURATE. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO GET THIS THROUGH, BECAUSE WE CAN VET THESE INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CAMPAIGN FILINGS. SO WHEN SOMEONE'S RUNNING FOR SUPERVISOR OR COUNCIL, THESE LAW FIRMS GIVE A LOT OF MONEY BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE THE LAWYER FOR THE TOWN, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW WHAT? THEY THEY MAKE A TON OF MONEY. LIKE, I THINK IT WAS $446,000 FOR THE ASPHALT PLANT. AND I HAD BROUGHT IT UP, AND I REMEMBER IT WAS DOWNSTAIRS IN THE MEETING SAYING, SOME COLLEAGUES CAME TO ME, THERE WERE SOME ENVIRONMENTAL LAW FIRMS, IF WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THAT KIND OF MONEY, I WANT THE BEST LAWYERS FOR THE TOWN TO WIN THAT LITIGATION. AND MY THOUGHT WAS, WAS, LET'S GET SOMEONE THAT NEVER, NEVER LOSES. SO ANYWAY, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE INFORMATIVE FOR THE PUBLIC TO PUT THIS OUT THERE, BECAUSE IT'S NOT THAT THAT THAT IT'S FOR US. WE HIRE THESE LAWYERS FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO DO THE BEST JOB FOR THEM. AND THEY AND THEY, THEY SHOULD BE INFORMED OF WHAT'S GOING ON. DO YOU LISTEN TO YOURSELF WHEN YOU TALK? BECAUSE, I MEAN, YOU JUST SAID, IF I RUN IN TWO YEARS FOR COUNCILMAN AND I PASS THIS RESOLUTION, I COULD EXPECT TO GET MONEY FROM LAWYERS TO COME OVER HERE SO I COULD BE OKAY. AND AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF I'M GOING TO DECIDE TO DO THIS AGAIN IN TWO YEARS. WE'LL SEE. BUT, YOU KNOW, THE POINT IS. SO. OKAY, KATHY, DO YOU WANT TO CALL THE VOTE? ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE CALLING FOR THE VOTE. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BUKOWSKI, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN COMERFORD. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. NO NO, NO. ABSTAIN. OH. I'M SORRY, I MEANT FOR HAVING AN I VOTE. I'M FOR THIS RESOLUTION. I'M SORRY. DO WE HAVE TWO? YES AND TWO. TWO NOES AND AN ABSTENTION THAT FAILS. SO MOTION FAILS. OKAY, 18. APPROVE THE ENGAGEMENT OF EBC [4.18.Approve the engagement of EBC HR Services] HR SERVICES. RESOLVED, THAT THE HAMBURG TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZE THE SUPERVISOR TO SIGN THE AGREEMENT WITH EBC TO ENGAGE THE HR MANAGEMENT SERVICES AS DESCRIBED IN FULL IN THE ATTACHED PROPOSAL. LEVEL ONE FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $12,580 WILL BE TRANSFERRED FROM THE ACCOUNT AS FOLLOWS TO THE ACCOUNT AS FOLLOWS. TO FUND THE EXPENSE FOR 2025. SO SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE AYE AYE. CARRIED. RESOLUTION FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE TOWN OF [4.19.Resolution for the Establishment of the Town of Hamburg Refuse and Recycling District] HAMBURG REFUSE AND RECYCLING DISTRICT. NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE TOWN BOARD AS FOLLOWS. THE SECRETARY HEREBY DETERMINE THAT THE ORDER CALLING PUBLIC HEARING WAS PUBLISHED AND POSTED, AS REQUIRED BY LAW, AND OTHERWISE SUFFICIENT TO ALL THE PROPERTY AND PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE DISTRICT ARE BENEFITED THEREBY. THREE ALL THE PROPERTY AND PROPERTY OWNERS BENEFITED ARE INCLUDED WITHIN THE DISTRICT, AND IT IS PUBLIC INTEREST TO ESTABLISH THE DISTRICT. SECTION TWO. THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE DISTRICT IS BOUNDED AND DESCRIBED BY. THE MAP PLAN REPORT IS HEREBY APPROVED. THE DISTRICT SHALL BE DESIGNATED AND KNOWN AS THE TOWN OF HAMBURG REFUSE AND RECYCLING DISTRICT, SECTION THREE. THIS RESOLUTION SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PERMISSIVE REFERENDUM IN THE MANNER PROVIDED IN ARTICLE SEVEN OF THE TOWN LAW. SO MOVED SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE AYE AYE. IT'S APPROVED. AND WE HAVE. [Additional Item 1] THE AUDITS OF CASH DISBURSEMENT FOR ARPA, AND THE AMOUNT OF $28,382.04, AND THE TOWN BOARD AUDIT OF CASH DISBURSEMENTS IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,166,745.34. SO MOVED SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. HI, HARRY. AND THAT CONCLUDES WHAT I HAVE FOR THE AGENDA TODAY. OKAY. WHERE ARE WE GOING WITH THE GARBAGE? OKAY. THE SAME PLACE NEWSPAPERS ARE. HANG ON, I'M GETTING. ALL RIGHT, [5. Public Comment ] SO WE'RE HEARING. PUBLIC COMMENT COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. IS THERE SUPPOSED TO BE SOME OF THE GARBAGE? I JUST WENT THROUGH IT. NO. DOESN'T MEAN I WANT TO TALK ABOUT. YEAH. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. THE PUBLIC MEETINGS. YES IT IS. I WAS OUTSIDE TODAY. PUT MY NAME ON THERE. PLEASE BE HAPPY TO ADD YOU, MR. REYNOLDS. FIRST SPEAKER WE HAVE IS DAVID RUST. THANK YOU. I GUESS AFTER ALL THAT, IT'S A BAD TIME TO ASK FOR $9 MILLION FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER, THAT PRETTY MUCH THE CONSENSUS. I STARTED ON THIS TWO AND A HALF YEARS [00:35:03] AGO AS A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE FOR THE SENIORS LOOKING FOR A NEW HOME. I THINK WE DID A PRETTY THOROUGH SEARCH. WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVES. WE NEGOTIATED WITH A COUPLE OF PEOPLE WHO HAD BUILDINGS THAT WERE FOR SALE THAT WE CONSIDERED. WE LOOKED AT LEASING, ALTHOUGH THE TOWN BOARD AT THE TIME WASN'T AS INTERESTED IN LEASING NECESSARILY AS THEY WERE BUYING AND OWNING OR BUILDING. AND THE TOWN BOARD CAME EVENTUALLY TO THE TO THE DECISION TO LOOK AT THE NIKE BASE AND BUILDING WHAT ESSENTIALLY WAS A MORTON BUILDING, A MODULAR BUILDING FOR THE NEW FOR THE NEW COMMUNITY CENTER. IF I LOOK AROUND AND YOU LOOK AT SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES AND I REALIZE THIS, I'M NOT UP HERE EXPECTING TO BE EFFECTIVE IN CHANGING MUCH OF ANYTHING. I THINK I'M SETTING THE STAGE FOR A REFERENDUM VOTE. MR. COLLINS POSTED TODAY THAT HE HAD ENOUGH SIGNATURES. I SUSPECT THAT WILL BE TRIGGERED AND IT WILL BECOME A REFERENDUM. BUT HOLLAND, SOUTH WALES, LOCKPORT, BLISS, NEW YORK, IF YOU EVEN KNOW WHERE IT IS. ARCADE, SPRINGVILLE, PEMBROKE ALL HAVE SOMETHING IN COMMON WITH EACH OTHER. THEY HAVE COMMUNITY CENTERS COMMENSURATE WITH THE SIZE OF THEIR POPULATION, GRANTED, BUT THEY HAVE COMMUNITY CENTERS, PLACES WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO AND AND KNOW ONE ANOTHER AND PERHAPS EXERCISE, PERHAPS RECREATE IN SOME OTHER WAY. BUT THEY HAVE COMMUNITY CENTERS. WE ARE THE FOURTH LARGEST MUNICIPALITY IN WESTERN NEW YORK AND DON'T HAVE A COMMUNITY CENTER. IT'S ABSURD. I'VE BEEN PAYING TAXES HERE FOR 47 YEARS. I'VE NEVER SEEN THEM GO BACKWARDS. THEY ALWAYS GO UP BECAUSE GENERALLY PRICES ALWAYS GO UP. WE GET WHAT WE PAY FOR GENERALLY NOT ALWAYS, BUT OFTEN. AND SO THE IDEA OF TAXES GOING UP TO ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING AS IMPORTANT AS THIS TO ME IS A WORTHWHILE EXPENDITURE. WHEN THE HOCKEY RINK AND I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THE HOCKEY RINK, MY SON PLAYED HOCKEY IN THAT HOCKEY RINK FOR MANY YEARS. HE REFEREED THERE. THE GOLF COURSE. HE WORKED ON THE GOLF COURSE ALSO, AND WE SPENT, I BELIEVE, SOMETHING CLOSE TO $5 MILLION IN IMPROVEMENTS ON THOSE. AND I DON'T OBJECT TO THAT. BUT BOTH OF THOSE INSTITUTIONS SERVE APPROXIMATELY 18% OF THE TOTAL POPULATION, AND THEY DO IT FOR, YOU KNOW, WE LIVE IN BUFFALO, NEW YORK. THEY DO IT FOR 6 OR 7 MONTHS OF THE YEAR. I DON'T OBJECT TO THAT. BUT A COMMUNITY CENTER, THE WAY IT'S BEING ENVISIONED WOULD SERVE 100% OF THE COMMUNITY 12 MONTHS OF THE YEAR. AND NONE OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE HOCKEY ARENA OR TO THE GOLF COURSE WERE DONE THROUGH REFERENDUM. AND NOW A REFERENDUM RAISES ITS HEAD, AND IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING. A CYNICAL PERSON WOULD WONDER WHY THAT'S HAPPENING NOW, BUT, WELL, THAT'S BEING PUSHED UPON THE BOARD. YEAH, I REALIZE THAT. OR MOST OF THE BOARD. WE'VE NOW SPENT SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY ON ARCHITECTS AND. BIDDING AND CONTRACTS AND RENDERINGS, AND NOW APPARENTLY THAT WILL ALL BE SET ASIDE. I SUSPECT THAT BASED ON THE TIMELINE, MOST OF THOSE CONTRACTS ARE BIDS WOULD HAVE TO BE REBID AT A LATER DATE. AND A LOT OF AT LEAST THE ELDERLY CONSTITUENTS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT HOW LONG THIS WILL NOW TAKE. IF IT GOES TO A REFERENDUM AND THAT REFERENDUM PASSES, SOME OF US DON'T EVEN BUY GREEN BANANAS, MUCH LESS WANT TO WAIT FOR A SENIOR CENTER TO BE BUILT. THE LOCATION AT THE NIKE BASE ISN'T IDEAL THERE. YOU KNOW, IF YOU LIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TOWN, YOU HAVE A CONCERN. I CAN BIKE THERE, SO I HAVE NO CONCERN, BUT IT CREATES A SYNERGY THAT NOTHING ELSE IN THE TOWN EVER WOULD WITH THE WITH THE RINK, WITH THE BASEBALL DIAMONDS, WITH THE SOCCER FIELDS. IMAGINE A PARENT BRINGING THEIR KID TO HOCKEY, AS I DID MANY HUNDREDS OF TIMES, AND BEING ABLE TO GO TO A COMMUNITY CENTER AND WORK OUT WHILE THEY'RE AT HOCKEY, THERE'S A SYNERGY THERE. IT'S ALL IN ONE PLACE. IN A LOT OF REGARDS, IT MAKES SENSE. PLUS, UNLIKE OTHER SUGGESTIONS LIKE THE MCKINLEY MALL, IT WOULDN'T, WHICH WOULD BE LOST TO THE TAX ROLLS. WE OWN THAT PROPERTY, AND IT SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE TO CREATE A CENTER THERE, I GUESS. LASTLY, AND I'M JUST VENTING, SO I GUESS. HAVING PAID TAXES FOR 47 YEARS, MAYBE I CAN VENT [00:40:03] OCCASIONALLY. MUCH OF WHAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED ABOUT GIVING PEOPLE THEIR VOICES IN GOVERNMENT, I AGREE WITH I AGREE WITH THE IDEA THAT PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE A SAY IN HOW THEIR MONEY IS SPENT, AND WE DO THAT EVERY SO MANY YEARS. WE ELECT YOU. WE ARE A REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY. LAST TIME I CHECKED, AND THAT MEANS WE DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE. WE GET TO KNOW THE PEOPLE WE'RE VOTING FOR. WE LOOK AT THEIR RECORDS, WE TRY TO EDUCATE OURSELVES. WE ELECT THEM TO OFFICE, AND THEY DO THE BEST JOB THEY CAN. THAT'S HOW IT WORKS. SUBVERTING IT TO A REFERENDUM TO ME, AS ANYTHING BUT DEMOCRATIC. YES, THERE IS A TIME AND PLACE FOR REFERENDUMS. THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN TO BE IT, AND I JUST WANT TO. IF IF LAST THING I'LL SAY IS IF THIS GOES TO A REFERENDUM AND THAT REFERENDUM, DEPENDING ON HOW IT'S WORDED, PASSES AND, AND WE START ALL OVER AGAIN, WHOEVER WAS IN FAVOR OF THAT OWNS IT. YOU REALLY, REALLY OWN IT. BECAUSE UNLESS THERE'S A PLAN IN PLACE AND I HAVEN'T SEEN A FEASIBILITY STUDY ON THE MCKINLEY MALL AND ARCHITECTS OPINION, AN ENGINEER'S OPINION, A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER'S OPINION ON WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO GET THAT DINOSAUR BACK ON ITS FEET AND MAKE IT SOMETHING THAT WOULD ACTUALLY WORK. I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE. AND SO TO PUT THIS PLAN THAT WE WORKED SO HARD ON ASIDE, AFTER TWO AND A HALF YEARS, I FIND AN ABOMINATION. I DO WELL, IT'S GOING TO COST THE TOWN MONEY TO TO HAVE THE REFERENDUM. BUT THE ONE IMPORTANT PART YOU LEFT OFF IS WE DO USE THOSE AS EMERGENCY AND WARMING CENTERS TO AND WHEN THERE'S EMERGENCIES. SO THEY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT JUST FOR, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY CENTERS, SENIOR CENTERS. IT DOES. AND A LOT OF THE SENIORS I MEAN THAT'S THE ONLY COMMUNICATION THEY HAVE WITH OUTSIDE PEOPLE. WE ALREADY LOST THE SENIOR DAYCARE A YEAR AGO. AND YEAH, SO IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT. BUT WE'LL ROLL WITH IT. I, I REALIZE THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO. I KNOW YOU'RE ALL EACH INDIVIDUAL'S POSITION ON THIS BECAUSE I'VE FOLLOWED IT AGAIN. I DON'T EXPECT TO AFFECT CHANGE. I AM JUST SETTING MYSELF UP FOR THE NEXT BATTLE, THAT'S ALL. AND NEXT SPEAKER CINDY GRUENHAGEN. GOOD EVENING. AND I THINK I WAS GOING TO STAY HOME TONIGHT. I, I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY WHEN I GET DONE WITH MY PREPARED STATEMENT IN REGARDS TO THE PLANNING BOARD. BUT TONIGHT I'M CINDY GRUENHAGEN, RESIDENT AND A MEMBER OF THE PLANNING BOARD, AND I SPEAK STRICTLY FOR MYSELF WHEN IT COMES TO THE PLANNING BOARD AND THE REFERENCES THAT I MAKE. I STAND BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING TO ASK A SIMPLE BUT CRITICAL QUESTION WHAT IS OUR GOAL FOR THE FUTURE OF HAMBURG? IS IT TO ALLOW NEGATIVITY? DELAYS, CONTINUAL CRITICISM TO HINDER PROGRESS AND DAMAGE OUR COMMUNITY? OR IS IT TO WORK TOGETHER CONSTRUCTIVELY AND POSITIVELY TO MAKE OUR TOWN SHINE? I BELIEVE OUR SHARED GOAL MUST BE THE LATTER. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE DO NOT WRAP OURSELVES UP IN DELAY TACTICS, NEGATIVE ATTACKS AND PIE IN THE SKY INITIATIVES THAT DISTRACT FROM THE REAL WORK AT HAND. OUR FOCUS AS BOARD MEMBERS AND RESIDENTS SHOULD BE TO BUILD A STRONG, MORE VIBRANT HAMBURG, NOT TO ENGAGE IN MISINFORMATION OR TO ATTACK THOSE WHO ARE COMMITTED TO OUR TOWN'S SUCCESS. OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS, THE TOWN BOARD AND PLANNING BOARD, ALONG WITH THE ZONING BOARD, HAVE DEMONSTRATED THIS COMMITMENT THROUGHOUT. TRANSPARENT. I'M SORRY THROUGH THOUGHTFUL, TRANSPARENT AND JOINT STEWARDSHIP, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE HAVE BEEN NO NEW CAR WASHES APPROVED DURING THE LAST TWO YEARS. INSTEAD, WE HAVE PASSED NEW LOCAL LAWS TO RESPONSIBLY LIMIT THE NUMBER OF CAR WASHES, STORAGE UNITS, AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS. THESE. THESE UPDATED REGULATIONS INCLUDE INCREASED BUFFER ZONES, STRICTER GUIDELINES TO ENSURE THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL AREAS, PRESERVING THE CHARACTER AND QUALITY OF THE LIFE THAT WE ALL VALUE. MOST IMPORTANTLY, THESE DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE THROUGH A TRANSPARENT PROCESS THAT ACTIVELY ENGAGES THE [00:45:03] PUBLIC AND STAKEHOLDERS. YOUR VOICES HAVE BEEN HEARD AND CONSIDERED EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. LET US REMEMBER THAT PROGRESS IS NOT ACHIEVED THROUGH DIVISION OR NEGATIVITY, BUT THROUGH RESPECTFUL DIALOG AND COOPERATION. TONIGHT, WE CONTINUE TO BUILD TOGETHER. WE CAN BUILD CONTINUE TO BUILD HAMBURG THAT REFLECTS OUR COMMUNITY. VALUES AND EMBRACES THOUGHTFUL GROWTH. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO ADD IS THE PLANNING CHAIR FOR THE TOWN OF HAMBURG IS I MOVED HERE FIVE YEARS AGO, AND I BOUGHT A HOUSE THAT WAS ALMOST IN FORECLOSURE, IN DESPERATE NEED OF REPAIR. I MOVED FROM MICHIGAN AND THOSE WHO ATTEND THE PLANNING BOARD ARE TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT MICHIGAN BECAUSE I JOKE ABOUT IT A LOT. I SERVED IN THE ZONING AND PLANNING AREA FOR A BETTER PART OF 25 YEARS. DID I HAVE EXPERIENCE FOR NEW YORK? NO, I DID NOT. BUT WHEN I GOT APPOINTED BY THE DEMOCRATIC BOARD, MOSTLY I WENT TO WORK. I DID MY TRAINING, I DID MY STUDYING. I ASKED THE QUESTIONS, I DID MY NEW YORK STUDYING, I DID MY CE CREDITS. I TALKED TO THE NEIGHBORS, TO THE RESIDENTS. AND THE FIRST YEAR THAT I WAS ON THE BOARD, I LEARNED A LOT. THE SECOND YEAR, I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO BE APPOINTED AS THE PLANNING CHAIR. ALL OF THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMENTS AND MADE HERE TONIGHT ABOUT THIS BOARD, LET ME TELL YOU WHAT THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION DID. DID THIS CHAIR, THERE IS A RULE IN THE ORDINANCES THAT LETTERS HAVE TO BE SENT TO THE RESIDENTS FOR NOTIFICATION WHEN THERE'S CHANGES BEING TAKEN PLACE ON PROPERTIES. SO I'M SITTING IN A PLANNING BOARD MEETING AND SOMEBODY SAID I NEVER RECEIVED A LETTER. I'VE NEVER BEEN NOTIFIED. AND WHEN I ASKED THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION, HE SAID, WELL, WHY DIDN'T YOU GO CHECK THE ORDINANCE BOOK? NOW, EVERYBODY CAN BE FLIPPANT. I'M THE STANDING PROOF THAT I'M STILL HERE. I WENT BACK AND READ THE ORDINANCE BOOK AND ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO THE LETTERS, AND WAS TOLD, WE DON'T SEND THEM. YOU GUYS ATTACKED THE ATTORNEYS, THIS ATTORNEY AND THE COUNCIL THAT WE HAVE IN CODE REVIEW SAT WITH ME AND THAT YOUNG MAN RIGHT THERE FOR MONTHS GOING OVER THOSE LAWS AND THOSE ORDINANCES SO WE COULD GET IT RIGHT. WHY? SO WE DIDN'T GET SUED. SO WHILE EVERYBODY'S MAKING THESE FLIPPANT STATEMENTS ABOUT THIS ADMINISTRATION, LET ME TELL YOU WHAT WE WENT THROUGH AND THE TRUTH. AND IF YOU WANT TO KNOW ANYTHING ELSE, I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. OKAY. THE NEXT SPEAKER, KILIAN ZAJAC. ZAJAC. YES, SIR. I'LL REPEAT. CUSTOMER. WE LIKE IT. OH, YOU ARE NOT. ARE WE DOING, MR. J? YEAH, YEAH, I'LL JUST TAKE THAT OFF. SO OBVIOUSLY, JUST LIKE THE FIRST SPEAKER, I'M GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY CENTER, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT REALLY ON THE AGENDA FOR TODAY, JUST AS A LAST DITCH EFFORT BEFORE IT DOES GO TO REFERENDUM, ONE OF THE MAIN COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE NEW COMMUNITY CENTER IS THE LOCATION. NOW, PEOPLE SAYING THIS OR SAYING THAT THE MCKINLEY MALL IS A BETTER OPTION. AND I THINK I COULD DISPROVE THAT EASILY. THE MALL IS OWNED BY TWO ENTITIES, MEANING THAT WE'D HAVE TO NEGOTIATE WITH TWO COMPANIES. AND NOT ONLY WOULD THAT INCREASE THE PRICE OF THE PROJECT BECAUSE WE'D HAVE TO LEASE IT AND ALSO TAKE WAY, WAY MORE TIME. IN REALITY, THERE IS NO PERFECT PLACE AS HAMBURG ISN'T A PERFECT SQUARE, BUT IT'S VERY, VERY RANDOM. BUT THE NIKE BASE IS THE BEST PLACE TO PUT IT. AND IF WE DO PASS THIS REFERENDUM, THE PRICE OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER WILL JUST CONTINUE TO GO UP. JUST ASK ORCHARD PARK, WHO SPENT $19 MILLION ON THEIRS. IF WE GO THROUGH WITH THIS PLAN NOW, IT ONLY COST ABOUT $10 PER RESIDENT, AN EXTRA COST. IF WE GET RID OF THIS PLAN, THE COST WILL SKYROCKET. IT'S YOU GUYS KNOW ABOUT THE RISING COSTS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. PLUS, IF I, I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS, BUT THE REFERENDUM IS TO SHUT DOWN THE IDEA OF A COMMUNITY CENTER AS A WHOLE, NOT JUST CHANGE THE LOCATION. I FEEL LIKE THAT WAS KIND OF USED BY MR. COLLINS WHEN HE WAS GETTING PETITIONS SIGNED. SO THAT MEANS THAT SOMEONE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE A BRAND NEW PETITION JUST TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A NEW PLAN. NOW, OF COURSE, I JUST SAID THAT. BUT IF THE REFERENDUM DOES GO THROUGH, YOU ARE TAKING AWAY MANY ACTIVITIES SUCH AS PICKLEBALL, FITNESS AND OTHER THINGS NOT ONLY FROM OUR BELOVED SENIORS, BUT OUR YOUTH AS WELL. AND THAT'S WHAT I KIND OF WANT TO GET THROUGH THIS. THIS COMMUNITY CENTER WILL NOT ONLY BE FOR SENIORS, WHICH WE LOVE, OUR SENIORS. A LOT OF THEM ARE IN THE AUDIENCE RIGHT NOW, BUT IT WILL ALSO IMPACT FAMILIES AND THE YOUTH. THIS IS [00:50:01] NOT ONLY A FIGHT FOR THE SENIORS, BUT FOR FAMILIES AND A FIGHT FOR THE YOUTH. AND I WANT THE YOUTH TO KNOW THAT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WISE BEYOND YOUR MEANS. KELLYANNE KILLIAN, I THINK I SPEAK FOR THE ENTIRE BOARD WHEN I SAY WE ARE CONTINUALLY IMPRESSED BY YOUR MATURITY AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SHARE YOUR PERSPECTIVE WITH THE BOARD IN A RESPECTFUL MANNER. YOU ARE AN AMAZING YOUNG MAN, AND WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE YOU IN HAMBURG. COULD BE AN OPENING IN TWO YEARS. COULD YOU GIVE US A LOT OF HOPE FOR THE FUTURE IN OUR COMMUNITY? AN EXCELLENT ACTOR. AS I TOLD YOU LAST TIME YOU SPOKE, I. I REALLY ENJOYED THE PLAY. HE ACTED IN A FANTASTIC PLAY AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL. I BROUGHT MY CHILDREN AND WE ALL ENJOYED IT. AND YOU DID A REALLY GOOD JOB, SO KEEP IT UP. NEXT. NEXT. SPEAKER RICHARD ZAJAC. CAN I LEAVE NOW? I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT IS. NO RELATION. OBVIOUSLY HE'S MY SON, SO YOU SHOULD BE PROUD. I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT LOCATION IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL AND AND I MAY POST IT. SO YOU KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE. WELL OKAY. I'LL GO. SO THIS IS CORNELL'S MAP OF THE POPULATION DENSITY. AND THEN I TOOK ERIE COUNTY'S GIS MAP AND OVERLAID IT AND PUT IF YOU GUYS WANT TO SEE THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I OVERLAID IT AND PUT A FOUR MILE RADIUS AROUND THE MALL UP HERE AND THE NIKE BASE DOWN HERE. AND OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN SEE NIKE BASE CATCHES A LOT MORE THAN THE MALL WOULD. I MEAN, AFTER AFTER I DID THIS, I, I FELT THAT LIKE THE THE MALL IS JUST NOT AN OPTION. I MEAN, YOU'RE CUTTING OFF LIKE HALF THE TOWN OF COURSE, LIKE NIKE BASE ISN'T CENTRALIZED. AND SO YOU SAY, OKAY, WELL WHERE BEING SUCH A WEIRD SHAPE, WHERE IS CENTRAL. AND THE BEST THING I COULD COME UP WITH WAS, WAS CAMP IN SOUTHWESTERN. AND THE ONLY REAL PROPERTY. I MADE SOME OTHER MAPS ACTUALLY, I MADE SOME. IF ANYBODY WANTS TO LOOK AT THE MAPS. YEAH. I MADE SOME HANDOUTS. BUT. SO LIKE CAMP AND SOUTHWESTERN, IT'S MORE CENTRALLY LOCATED, BUT YOU'RE STILL MISSING OUT ON LAKEVIEW AT THE BOTTOM THERE WITH THE FOUR MILE RADIUS. AND THERE'S REALLY NO PROPERTY AVAILABLE THERE. THE PROPERTY THAT'S RIGHT THERE IS COMMUNITY SHORT OR SOUTH SHORE COMMUNITY, WHICH USED TO BE THE GOLF COURSE, AND THEY BOUGHT IT IN 2017 FOR $4 MILLION. AND I GUESS THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DEVELOP WITH DAVID HOLMES, BUT NOTHING'S HAPPENED SINCE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S FROM THE 2012 PHOSPHORUS FERTILIZER BAN OR OTHER CHEMICALS THAT THEY BANNED ALONG THE WAY THAT THE GOLF COURSE MAY HAVE USED, AND MAYBE THE SOIL ISN'T VERY WELL THERE. SO I DON'T I WOULDN'T THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE TOWN WOULD WANT TO GET INTO OVER THERE AT ALL. I'VE BEEN A PESTICIDE APPLICATOR FOR SINCE EARLY 2000, AND I. I WOULD HIGHLY ADVISE THE TOWN NOT TO GET INVOLVED WITH THE FORMER GOLF COURSE, BUT. AND THEN THERE'S THERE'S THE THRUWAY PROPERTY. THEY WANT 3 MILLION FOR THAT. AND EVEN WHEN YOU JUST START TO JOG A LITTLE WAYS, BECAUSE THE TOWN IS SO WEIRD SHAPE, YOU JUST JOG A LITTLE WAYS AWAY. NOW, ACTUALLY, YOU GO A LITTLE BIT SOUTH TO GET THE THRUWAY. DID YOU GUYS KNOW? I'LL TAKE MY. THANKS. SO YOUR MAP WORK IS STARTING TO MIRROR A LOT OF THE MAP WORK WE DID TO GET TO THIS DECISION. YEAH, I FIGURED THAT ONCE, ONCE, ONCE I STARTED, BUT, LIKE, EVEN JUST JOGGING A LITTLE BIT SOUTH TO THAT, THAT THRUWAY PROPERTY, I MEAN, IT'S RIGHT RIGHT DOWN, I THINK CAMP JUST A LITTLE WAYS AND IT PULLS IT SOUTH. SO NOW YOU START LOSING BLAISDELL AND YOU STILL LOSE LAKEVIEW. AND THEN I WENT ON FURTHER ON AND WENT AND DID LIKE FRONTIER HIGH SCHOOL AND MOVED IT UP TO TO DO A RADIUS AROUND FRONTIER HIGH SCHOOL. AND THEN YOU START TO LOSE THE BOTTOM HALF, WHICH IS KIND OF SIMILAR TO WHAT WHAT THE NIKE BASE IS. BUT YOU LOSE THE NORTH A LITTLE BIT, AND THE [00:55:05] ONLY OTHER PROPERTY THAT I DID WAS. HAMBURG BEACH. AND I MEAN HAMBURG BEACH, I DON'T THINK WOULD BE AN IDEAL LOCATION. I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD FIT IT THERE. IT'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM. AND THEN AND THEN THE WINTERS THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S IDEAL, BUT EVEN HAMBURG BEACH CUTS OFF. PART OF BLAISDELL, CUTS OFF PART OF THE VILLAGE, AND THEN CUTS OFF PART OF PART OF LAKEVIEW. SO THAT'S NOT EVEN I WOULDN'T CALL THAT SUPERIOR TO THE NIKE BASE. AND LIKE I SAID, THE ONLY PROPERTY WOULD BE AROUND SOUTHWESTERN AND THERE'S NOT MUCH AVAILABLE, SO YOU'D HAVE TO BUY SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED. AND COST WISE, YOU'RE GOING TO BE WAY MORE. SO, YOU KNOW, IN THE END, REALLY, WE'RE STUCK WITH IF YOU'RE TRYING TO LOOK FOR A CHEAPER PROPERTY OR CHEAPER PROJECT, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO FIND IT DOING IT ON ALREADY DEVELOPED LAND OR LAND WE HAVE TO BUY. IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE PROPERTY THAT THE TOWN OWNS. AND WE WHERE IS THAT? YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE OWN? AND THE NIKE BASE IS ALREADY DEVELOPED. WE HAVE ALL THOSE EVERYTHING THERE PLAYGROUNDS, BASEBALL DIAMONDS, BMX TRACK. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S STILL THERE. IT IS. SO I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD. DOG PARK. YOU FORGOT ABOUT THE DOG PARK? YEAH, THE DOG PARK. I JUST THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE AN IDEAL LOCATION. OR IT IS THE IDEAL LOCATION. IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAKING THIS AS CHEAP AS POSSIBLE AND AND NOT, AND IT'S STILL ACTUALLY NOT A BAD LOCATION FOR THE RESIDENTS, AS WE ENCOMPASS A LOT OF THE TOWN POPULATION. BUT THAT THAT THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I WANTED TO SAY. WELL, YOUR SON'S A BETTER SPEAKER, BUT. YEAH. BUT ANYWAYS, ON THAT NOTE, WE DID LOOK IN IN THAT AREA OF SOUTHWESTERN AND CAMP ROAD. THE CONCESSIONS AND THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT THEY WANTED WAS UNFEASIBLE. IT WASN'T A THING. AND WE LOOKED AT A FEW OTHER AREAS, SOME WE CAN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT. BUT IT WAS IT WAS NOT THE COST AND THE THE SIZE WASN'T FEASIBLE FOR WHAT WHAT WAS IN. AND THIS BEING ON TOWN PROPERTY, WE DON'T HAVE THE BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS DON'T HAVE TO GO SO FAR TO CUT THE GRASS. IT'S ALREADY OUR OWN PROPERTY. WE SAVE THE MONEY THERE. AND YOU KNOW, THE LONG RANGE IS TO MAKE THAT A SPORTS COMPLEX AND JUST TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING RIGHT THERE, YOU KNOW, PUT IT NEXT STEP. I'M HOPING AS A FIELD HOUSE, I PROBABLY WON'T BE HERE FOR THAT. BUT YOU NEVER KNOW. YEAH. AND AND THEN MOVE ON FROM THERE BECAUSE LET'S FACE IT, THE FIELD HOUSES MAKE MONEY AND IT WOULD PROBABLY PAY FOR ITSELF IN A FEW YEARS, RIGHT? YEAH. I'VE BEEN DRIVING KILLIAN AROUND EVERYWHERE TO WHAT IS THE ONE OVER ON SALEM? SALEM? OVER THERE IN ELMA. WE'RE RUNNING OVER THERE. I HAD MY GRANDKIDS. THEY'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE. ALL RIGHT. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, KEITH CONKLIN. HELLO. SO I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY HERE IN HAMBURG. I HAVE BEEN HERE A LITTLE OVER FIVE YEARS AS WELL, AND I'M ALSO FROM MICHIGAN ORIGINALLY. SO THAT'S KIND OF. SO I WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS TOO. REGARDING THE COMMUNITY CENTER, I THINK ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS FOR ME, AND COMING FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAD A COMMUNITY CENTER THAT I'VE UTILIZED, THE IMPORTANCE OF WHY WE NEED IT AND WHY IT NEEDS TO BE OWNED BY THE BY US, BY HAMBURG, NOT LEAST, NOT RENTED. A COMMUNITY CENTER WOULD ALLOW PEOPLE OF ALL AGES TO GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER AND BE MORE INVOLVED IN THEIR COMMUNITY IN A SAFE AND COMFORTABLE ENVIRONMENT, ONE IN WHICH THE COMMUNITY ACTUALLY OWNS. RENTING A PROPERTY THAT HAS OTHER BUSINESSES IN THE SAME STRUCTURE IS NOT A GOOD SOLUTION. THERE WOULD BE NO GUARANTEE THAT THE STRUCTURE WOULD BE. SO THAT WOULDN'T WOULDN'T BE SOLD, AND THE COMMUNITY WOULD HAVE NO SAY IN BUSINESSES THAT WE WOULD SHARE IT WITH. AND. THAT COULD MAKE PEOPLE USING THE CENTER FEEL UNSAFE AND UNWELCOME. AND LEASING HAS ALREADY BEEN PROVEN UNRELIABLE. WE NEED THE CENTER TO HELP IN GROWING HAMBURG AS A COMMUNITY OTHERS WILL WANT TO LIVE IN, AND OTHER PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO COME HERE. AND AND YOU [01:00:03] NEED A COMMUNITY CENTER AND YOU NEED TO OWN IT. AND I ALSO WANT TO KIND OF BRING UP ANOTHER POINT. WHEN THAT PETITION WENT AROUND IN, IN OUR VILLAGE, IN THE VILLAGE I LIVE IN A, I LIVE IN A PRIVATE ON A PRIVATE STREET WITH POSTINGS ON EVERY ENTRANCE THAT SAY NO SOLICITATION AND NO TRESPASSING. IT IS CLEARLY POSTED ON ON AT EVERY ENTRANCE. WHAT CONCERNS ME IS THAT OUR HOA, WE DISCUSSED WITH OUR HOA TODAY, OUR HOA INFORMED US THAT NOBODY INQUIRED ABOUT GETTING PERMISSION TO COME INTO OUR PRIVATE COMMUNITY, OUR HOA COMMUNITY, AND GET SIGNATURES. NOBODY ASKED. AND IT'S A PRIVATE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S POSTED VERY CLEARLY AND NO ONE ASKED TO TO COME INTO OUR COMMUNITY. THEY JUST DID IT. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR THAT I THINK THAT'S WRONG. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. YEAH. I ALSO AGREE WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THE LEASING AND RENTING. I MEAN, EVEN THOUGH THE LAST ONE WAS WITH THE SCHOOL, WHICH IS A STATE ENTITY, WE STILL POURED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO THAT BUILDING AND YOU POUR MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO SOMEBODY ELSE'S BUILDING AND THEY DECIDE, WELL, I'M NOT GOING TO LEASE IT TO YOU ANYMORE. I'M GOING TO SELL THE BUILDING, I'M MOVING OUT OR WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO, AND TIME TO PACK UP AND FIND ANOTHER PLACE FOR TEN YEARS. SO NEXT SPEAKER, MARIE PAGANO, BECAUSE OF THE HOUR, I'M GOING TO SWITCH PLACES WITH MATTHEW PAGANO. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO MATTHEW PAGANO, THANK YOU. HELLO EVERYONE. MY NAME IS MATTHEW AND I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG FOR TEN YEARS. MY WIFE AND I MOVED HERE TO RAISE OUR FAMILY AND IT WAS FELT IT WAS OUR BEST DECISION. I WANTED TO TAKE A COUPLE OF MINUTES TO TALK ABOUT THE COMMUNITY CENTER HERE IN HAMBURG AND WHAT IT WHY IT MATTERS SO MUCH FOR US. FOR A LOT OF US, IT'S MORE THAN JUST A BUILDING. IT IS WHERE THE TOWN COMES TOGETHER. IT'S WHERE KIDS, PARENTS, GRANDPARENTS ALL FIND SOMETHING TO DO, LEARN AND LAUGH ABOUT. WE THINK ABOUT THE GRANDPARENTS ICE CREAM SOCIAL. IT'S SIMPLE, BUT IT'S SPECIAL. GRANDPARENTS, KIDS, PARENTS SHARING ICE CREAM, TELLING STORIES AND MAKING MEMORIES. THAT IS THE KIND OF STUFF THAT MAKES HAMBURG FEEL LIKE HOME. AND REALLY, THERE IS NO OTHER ENVIRONMENT IN THE TOWN QUITE LIKE OUR COMMUNITY CENTER. IT IS ONE OF THE RARE PLACES WHERE YOUNG AND OLD ACTUALLY MIX, WHERE A KICK IN HIGH FIVE, A SENIOR VOLUNTEER WHERE A GRANDPARENT CAN WATCH THEIR GRANDKIDS PLAY SOCCER AND LEARN A NEW SKILL WHERE ADULTS AND KIDS SEE EACH OTHER AS PART OF A BIG COMMUNITY INSTEAD OF LIVING IN SEPARATE WORLDS. THOSE INTERACTIONS BUILD RESPECT, UNDERSTANDING A SENSE OF BELONGING YOU DON'T GET ANYWHERE ELSE. ONE OF MY FAVORITE MEMORIES IS WHEN MY DAUGHTER WENT TO THE MAGIC SHOW WITH HER GRANDPARENTS. SHE WAS LOVING EVERY TRICK AND THE MAGICIANS BIRD SOMEHOW GOT CAUGHT IN HER HAIR. THE WHOLE ROOM CRACKED UP, INCLUDING HER. IT'S ONE OF THOSE SILLY, UNFORGETTABLE MOMENTS SHE STILL TALKS ABOUT. THAT IS THE KIND OF JOY THIS PLACE CREATES. AND IT IS NOT JUST FUN. THE SMART START PROGRAM IN THE GYM IS WHERE MY KIDS FIRST LEARN THEIR TEAMWORK, SPORTSMANSHIP, AND KICK THE VERY FIRST SOCCER BALL. THOSE ARE THE EXPERIENCES THAT HELP SHAPE KIDS AND CONNECT FAMILIES. THAT IS WHY THE COMMUNITY CENTER IS ESSENTIAL. IT IS NOT JUST ANOTHER PROJECT, IT IS NOT A PART. IT IS PART OF WHO WE ARE. THE NEW BUILDING ISN'T SIMPLE ALL ABOUT BRICKS AND WALLS. IT'S ABOUT MORE SPACE AND MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR PROGRAMS TO GROW. A LARGER, UPDATED CENTER MEANS MORE ROOM FOR INTEGRATIONAL EVENTS LIKE THE ICE CREAM SOCIAL, MORE SPACE FOR YOUTH PROGRAMS, AND MORE FLEXIBILITY TO HOST SHOWS, CLASSES, AND ACTIVITIES THAT BRING AN ENTIRE COMMUNITY TOGETHER UNDER ONE ROOF. ANY DELAYS TO THE NEW BUILDING WILL BE A REAL LOSS FOR THE COMMUNITY. HAMBURG FAMILIES ITS FUTURE. IT CAN'T AFFORD TO WAIT AND THIS IS WHY WE SHOULD BE ASKING OURSELVES WHY DO WE WANT TO HOLD THIS UP? IS IT PERSONAL, FINANCIAL OR POLITICAL? ARE THEY REALLY THINKING ABOUT WHAT'S THE BEST INTEREST FOR HAMBURG OR JUST THEMSELVES? I HOPE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT ANY DELAY. THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND IS INVESTMENT IN OUR KIDS, ELDERS, FAMILY AND FUTURE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND NEXT, NEXT. SPEAKER BONNIE THREE. HI. I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT [01:05:03] THE SENIOR CENTER AND THE ADAPTIVE CHILDREN'S GROUP. WE HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF HAMBURG FOR 54 YEARS. MY HUSBAND AND I IN THE SAME HOUSE. WE STILL AM, AND WE HAD A GREAT FAMILY AND WE HAD A SON THAT WAS BORN, THAT WAS BORN WITH A DISEASE, AND HE STRUGGLED THROUGH LIFE. AND THEN THROUGH A MEDICAL MISHAP. DONNY COULD NEVER PARTICIPATE IN ANY SPORTS OR WHATEVER. SO WHEN IT WAS TIME FOR HIM TO GRADUATE FROM HIGH SCHOOL AND GO TO SEC, HE GOT AN EDUCATION. BUT IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT FOR HIM TO GET A JOB BECAUSE BEFORE THE SUMMER BEFORE HIS SENIOR YEAR, HE WAS PUT ON OXYGEN AND WE HAD TO COME UP WITH A SITUATION OF, HOW IS A YOUNG BOY THAT WEIGHED A LITTLE OVER 100 POUNDS GOING TO BE ABLE TO TRANSPORT THIS OXYGEN? SO HIM AND HIS FATHER CAME UP WITH A BOOK BAG SOLUTION TO PUT ON WHEELS, AND WE HAD TO GO AHEAD AND GET LIQUID OXYGEN, WHICH COST US 365 EVERY OTHER WEEK OUT OF POCKET. BUT OUR SON COULD GET AROUND, BUT HE HAD TO GO TO HIS SENIOR YEAR WITH OXYGEN. BUT BECAUSE OF THE ATTITUDE HE HAD, HE MADE IT. AND THEN WHEN IT WAS TIME FOR HIM TO GET A JOB, HE TRIED EVERYWHERE. HE EVEN GOING TO DOCTORS AND SPENDING A COUPLE HOURS AND FILLING OUT APPLICATIONS THERE TO SEE IF HE COULD GET A JOB. NO ONE WOULD HIRE HIM BECAUSE HE WAS ON OXYGEN, BUT HE COULD SIT THERE FOR 3 OR 4 HOURS WITH THE OXYGEN. SO ALONG CAME THE HAMBURG RECREATION AREA AND MARTY DUNACHIE, WHO RUNS THE REC, HE OFFERED ME A JOB, MY SON, A JOB, NOT EVEN KNOWING THAT ALL THESE THINGS HAD HAPPENED TO DONNIE AND DONNIE. THAT WAS THE BEST THING THAT EVER HAPPENED TO HIM. AND HE TOLD ME LATER ON, MOM, THIS JOB WAS THE BEST THING I EVER COULD HAVE HAD. EVERYTHING ELSE I TRIED TO GET IT DIDN'T MEAN MUCH. THIS IS IT. AND SO AFTER WE'VE LOST DONNIE, WE STARTED THE DONNIE THEORY FOUNDATION, AND WE ARE KEEPING THAT ADAPTIVE CHILDREN'S PROGRAM GOING WITH AN ANNUAL GOLF TOURNAMENT THAT WE HAVE EVERY SINGLE YEAR. AND WE'VE DONE IT FOR 18 YEARS. AND WE I JUST CAN'T UNDERSTAND HOW SOMEONE WOULD WANT TO END AN ORGANIZATION AND A GROUP THAT IS WELL RUN. THE STAFF IS ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL. WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO STOP THIS? AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING WAS THE SENIOR CENTER. AND THAT WAS RUN SO WELL. AND IT WAS REALLY A JOY TO SEE THE YOUNG CHILDREN INTERACT WITH THE ELDERLY PEOPLE. IT REALLY WAS. AND I HAD A COUSIN THAT WAS IN A BAD TRUCKING ACCIDENT, AND HE COULD NOT GET AROUND MUCH EITHER. HE WAS WHEELCHAIR BOUND AND FOR HIS WIFE TO JUST HAVE SOME PEACE OF MIND AND SOME TIME TO HERSELF, IT WAS JUST SO NICE FOR HER TO DROP RALPH OFF THERE FOR HER TO GET A HAIRCUT, A DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT, OR TO GO SHOPPING INSTEAD OF TAKING HIM, WHICH BECAME A VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TASK. BUT IT'S NOT THERE ANYMORE. SHE JUST HAD TO FIND A PLACE FOR HIM, AND SHE HAS FINALLY FOUND A VA PLACE IN BATAVIA, NEW YORK. SO SHE'S GOT TO TRAVEL FROM HAMBURG TO BATAVIA NOW, BECAUSE THERE'S NO PLACE FOR HER TO REALLY DROP THEM OFF. AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A SON THAT CAME OUT TO BE A VERY SPECIAL YOUNG MAN, TOO, AND HE'S BEEN GONE 18 YEARS. WE'VE BEEN RUNNING THIS FOR 18 YEARS. AND I CAN'T FOR THE LIFE OF ME UNDERSTAND WHY A GROUP OF PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO DISSOLVE OUR COMMUNITY CENTER AND NOT ALLOW US TO REBUILD A NEW ONE. WHY? THERE'S NO SENSE TO THE WHOLE THING. AND LET'S JUST KEEP OUR YOUTH PROTECTED. AND IF YOU'VE EVER HAD AN ELDERLY PERSON AND YOU NEED SOME HELP, THEY'RE THERE TO HELP YOU. AND BOTH OF THE UNITS ARE BOTH SO WELL STAFFED, I COULD NEVER SAY ENOUGH ABOUT THEM. AND MY HEADS GO OFF TO ALL OF THEM, AND I HOPE YOU JUST HELP US TO STOP THIS REFERENDUM AND JUST GIVE US A CHANCE TO BE ABLE TO REBUILD AND HAVE OUR OWN PLACE AGAIN, AND IT'S GOING TO BE GOOD FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. IT'S OUT OF OUR IT'S OUT OF OUR HANDS. THIS THIS GOES TO THE COUNTY FOR FOR A VOTE. BUT IF YOU MISS GORMAN KING BACK THERE, SHE MIGHT HAVE SOMEBODY FROM RESPITE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE CLOSER. MAYBE YOU COULD GIVE YOUR FRIEND A CONTACT AND HAVE HER CONTACT THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE AFTER WE THAT WE WERE FORCED TO CLOSE THE SENIOR DAYCARE. WE THROUGH THE SENIOR AGING GROUP, WE GATHERED SOME RESPITE GROUPS. IS THAT RESPITE OR. YEAH. AND SO MAYBE SHE COULD FIND SOMETHING A LITTLE CLOSER. YOU GUYS ARE BOUND TO [01:10:03] MAKE ME CRY TODAY. NEXT SPEAKER, KAREN ROGERS. HELLO, EVERYONE. HI THERE. THERE WE GO. OUR NEW COMMUNITY, OUR NEW HAMBURG SENIOR COMMUNITY CENTER IS A PROJECT THAT NEEDS TO MOVE FORWARD AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. THE TOWN HAS DONE DUE DILIGENCE IN THIS. IN THIS PROCESS, WHICH HAS TAKEN OVER TWO YEARS AND LOTS OF TIME AND MONEY. BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, MOST IMPORTANT, THE TOWN. THIS CENTER WILL ADD TO A BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE, NOT JUST FOR OUR SENIORS, BUT FOR OUR WHOLE COMMUNITY AS WELL. I WOULD URGE EVERYONE TO LOOK TO THE FUTURE AND SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. NEXT SPEAKER, PAM BOWLER I'M SORRY, PAM BOWLER. I'VE GOT PHOTOS, BUT CAN I GET TO THE POINT? I'LL TELL YOU TO TURN THEM OVER. OKAY? YOU HAVE TO SEE THEM IN CONTEXT. OKAY? YEAH. I'VE ALSO GOT ARTICLES. DON'T. I'LL GIVE THOSE TO YOU. MY ISSUE IS DIFFERENT THAN THE SENIOR CENTER. ALTHOUGH I DO AGREE WITH BUILDING A NEW ONE. IT WASN'T WHAT I CAME TO TALK TONIGHT, BUT I'VE BEEN A HOMEOWNER AND TOWNHOUSE OWNER SINCE 1987 AND REDOING STUFF IS NOT CHEAP. AS A MATTER OF FACT, IF YOU FOLLOW THE NEWS, DOUGLAS JAMAL IS KIND OF PULLING AWAY FROM THINGS BECAUSE OF COSTS. AND I DO KNOW THIS BECAUSE MY DAUGHTER WORKED IN A BANK. AT ONE POINT, THE BANK BRANCH PARKING LOT, AND THIS WAS BEFORE 2018 COST $200,000 TO PAVE. SO WHAT WOULD THE MALL COST? AND THIS WAS PRIOR TO 2018. SO THAT'S BUT THIS ISN'T MY POINT. MY POINT IS BEING PROACTIVE VERSUS REACTIVE ZONING. WE GET THE PAPER BECAUSE MY HUSBAND DOESN'T GET OUT AS MUCH. HE'S SLOWED DOWN. WE ALWAYS HAVE. HE FOLLOWS EVERY SPORT EXCEPT HORSE RACING AND NASCAR. AND I LIKE THE LOCAL NEWS. AND I'VE SEEN THINGS IN OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE GONE ON, AND MY CONCERN IS ZONING, LIKE HEAVY INDUSTRY, EVEN LIGHT INDUSTRY. THE ASPHALT PLANT HAS BEEN DEALT WITH. AND ONE THING THAT'S COME UP THAT WAS TONAWANDA WITH THE CREMATORIUM ASPHALT PLANT STILL GOING ON. ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, CLARENCE PASSED A RESOLUTION TO AVOID A CREMATORY, NOT HAVE CREMATORIUMS. AND 60% OF THE POPULATION RIGHT NOW GOES OFF IN A BLAZE OF GLORY. AND THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE OF US. BUT ANYWAY, OTHER THINGS THAT COULD COME UP, CRYPTOCURRENCY. NORTH TONAWANDA IS FAR MORE INDUSTRIAL THAN HAMBURG, BUT THEY HAD ISSUES WITH THAT. AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NEXT TECHNICAL THING IS GOING TO BE. SO IT HASN'T BEEN INVENTED YET. OTHERWISE I'D INVEST AND I'D BE RICH. BUT ANYWAY, THE NOISE WAS SO BAD AND THEY DIDN'T. THEY HAD TO BUY SPECIAL. NORTH TONAWANDA HAD TO BUY SPECIAL EQUIPMENT TO GET IN A BATTLE WITH CRYPTOCURRENCY, BECAUSE IT HAD TO BE PROVEN AND GO TO THE STATE. I'VE GOT ARTICLES ABOUT THAT AS WELL. SO ZONING, I THINK HAMBURG REALLY HAS TO WATCH HEAVY INDUSTRY AND LIGHT INDUSTRY. AND MY SECOND ONE, THE PHOTOS ARE OF RILEY STREET. I'M REALLY SAD ABOUT THE LOSS OF GREEN SPACE, AND I UNDERSTAND IF SOMEONE OWNS LAND, THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. BUT LAST YEAR WE WERE IN HYDE PARK IN A NEW HOTEL ON A HILL RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE BACK OF THE CULINARY INSTITUTE, AND IT WAS ON, I DON'T KNOW, A VERY HIGH HILL OR SMALL MOUNTAIN, BUT IT WAS THE FIRST THING BUILT AND I WAS READY FIRST. AND I WAS TALKING TO THE MANAGER ABOUT THE NICE NEW HOTEL, AND HE WAS SAYING HOW THEY WERE GOING TO BUILD ANOTHER HOTEL AND SOME APARTMENTS AND CONDOS. AND I SAID, THAT'S REALLY SAD BECAUSE THIS IS SO PRETTY. BUT HE MENTIONED 40% OF THAT LAND IS GOING TO BE GREEN SPACE AND HIKING TRAILS. AND MY DAUGHTER [01:15:01] DID RUN UP. AND, YOU KNOW, SHE SAID IT WAS A GOOD CLIMB, BUT SHE'S AN ATHLETE. SHE DIDN'T GET THAT FROM ME. BUT ANYWAY, JUST NOW I DROVE RECENTLY, SOUTHWESTERN AND HOWARD, THE APARTMENTS, EVERYTHING WAS LEVELED. THE POINT IS, WHEN I WAS TALKING TO THE MANAGER OF THE HOTEL IN HYDE PARK, HE MENTIONED THAT ANYTHING IN HYDE PARK AND SOME OF THE OTHER COMMUNITIES IN THAT AREA ON THE HUDSON HAS TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF 10% GREEN SPACE OR MORE, AND THERE HAVE TO BE TREES, HE SAID. IF YOU BUILT A 7-ELEVEN, THE MINIMUM WOULD BE 10% OF GREEN SPACE AND TREES. IN HAMBURG, IT WOULD BE A DOLLAR GENERAL. BUT SO TWO THINGS THE ZONING CONCERNS ME. AND THE THING ABOUT REQUIRING GREEN SPACE IN ANY PROJECT THAT DOESN'T COST THE TOWN ANY MONEY, LIKE IF THERE HAD BEEN A GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENT ON SOUTHWESTERN AND HOWARD, YOU KNOW, THOSE NICE HOUSES WOULDN'T HAVE THEIR BACKYARDS LOOKING AT DIRT RIGHT NOW. SO I THINK THESE THINGS THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE DONE NEED TO BE LOOKED AT. AND AGAIN, I'VE ALWAYS LIKED TO DO THINGS THAT WHENEVER I HAVE TO DO ANYTHING ON A BUDGET, EVEN MY DAUGHTER'S WEDDING MADE HER DO THAT. BUT THIS WOULDN'T COST THE TOWN MONEY AND IT WOULD IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT EAST AURORA AND ORCHARD PARK, THEY DON'T HAVE THESE THINGS. AND I KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I'M REALISTIC. IF YOU'RE A LANDOWNER AND IT'S COMMERCIAL, YOU CAN BUILD ON IT. BUT THE TOWN COULD REQUIRE GREEN SPACE AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT LOOKED AT. AND I'D LIKE TO SEE ZONING LOOKED AT VERY CAREFULLY ALL OVER THE TOWN IF IT'S EXISTING. YEAH, THE FORD PLANT OR WHATEVER. BUT IN THE FUTURE WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT'S COMING UP. AND HERE'S MORE ARTICLES I HAVE. PAM, I THINK YOU, JOSH, WANT TO ANSWER ANY OF THAT. PAM, I THINK YOU BROUGHT UP SOME VERY GOOD THINGS. AND ACTUALLY, I THINK I HAVE SOME VERY GOOD NEWS FOR YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF JOSHUA WOULD LIKE TO INTERJECT NOW, OR HE WAS INTENDING. YEAH, HE WAS HE WAS GOING TO UPDATE DURING HIS DEPARTMENT REPORT AT THE END, BUT I DON'T KNOW. I'LL DEFER TO THE SUPERVISOR WHETHER SHE WANTS HIM TO COMMENT NOW. OR DO YOU WANT JOSH TO WAIT TILL THE END? BECAUSE THERE IS ACTUALLY SOME THINGS HE WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT GO DIRECTLY RELATED TO WHAT YOU JUST BROUGHT UP. YOU WANT TO TALK NOW, JOSH? CAN YOU TELL ME OKAY. JOSHUA ROGERS, PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO YOUR POINT. SO I ACTUALLY JUST GAVE A PRESENTATION DURING OUR WORK SESSION. I USUALLY COME EITHER BEFORE MEETINGS OR DURING THESE MEETINGS TO TRY TO GIVE UPDATES RELATED TO ZONING, ESPECIALLY, AND DIFFERENT PROJECTS GOING ON THROUGHOUT THE TOWN. TO YOUR FIRST POINT ABOUT ZONING AND REALLY LOOKING AT INDUSTRY AND LIGHT INDUSTRY AND HEAVY INDUSTRY, WE'RE ACTUALLY CONSOLIDATING OUR INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS RIGHT NOW. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING IS WE HAVE M2 AND M3, WHICH ARE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND OUR GENERAL INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE TOWN BOARD THAT WE'RE PRESENTING IS IN M3, WHICH IS OUR HEAVIEST INDUSTRIAL USE. WE'RE BANNING CRYPTO MINING CURRENCY STATIONS, AND WE'RE ALSO NOT ALLOWING CERTAIN INDUSTRIAL USES OF THAT TYPE, ESPECIALLY ONES THAT WE'VE SEEN IN TONAWANDA, NORTH TONAWANDA, THAT POSE LIKE A NOISE BURDEN TO RESIDENTS. SO SOME OF THOSE USES, WE'VE ESTABLISHED THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ALLOWED. OTHER ONES REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT BEFORE OUR PLANNING BOARD, MEANING THAT THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED, LIKE IT'S NOT A RUBBER STAMP. THERE'S A SET OF CRITERIA, A SET OF BUFFERS, A SET OF NOISE MITIGATIONS THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET TO EVEN GET APPROVED. SO WE'VE ALREADY TRIED TO DO SOME DUE DILIGENCE. ONE THING WITH ZONING, AS YOU KIND OF MENTIONED, IS THAT YOU CAN'T PLAN FOR THE FUTURE. WE CAN BAN CRYPTOCURRENCY RIGHT NOW, BUT THEN THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING 15 YEARS AGO OR 15 YEARS LATER THAT WE DON'T KNOW OF, BUT ALL WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO IS USE OUR COMP PLAN AND USE ZONING AND USE OUR LAND USES TO BE PROACTIVE AS WE CAN BE. AND THEN WE JUST HAVE TO CONTINUE TO UPDATE THINGS FIVE, TEN, 15 YEARS AND CONTINUE TO JUST SEE WHAT'S GOING ON AND TRY TO MAKE THE BEST USE OF THE LAND USES THAT ARE IN THE TOWN. NOW, THE SECOND THING THAT YOU ADDRESSED WERE THE HOWARD AND SOUTHWESTERN PROJECT AND REQUIRING GREEN SPACE. ONE OF THE THINGS IN THE ZONING UPDATES THAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS WE'RE ACTUALLY REQUIRING FOR ALL APARTMENT COMPLEXES, CONDOS AND TOWNHOMES IN THE R3 DISTRICT, WHICH IS THE ONLY DISTRICT RIGHT NOW WHERE YOU CAN DO SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS REQUIRING 20% GREEN SPACE FOR THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS. AND WE'RE LOOKING TO GET SOME PUBLIC INPUT. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING SOME OF THOSE MEETINGS BEFORE THE TOWN BOARD AND THE FOYER AND AT THESE WORK SESSIONS TO NOT ONLY GET PUBLIC INPUT BEFORE IT GETS BROUGHT TO THE BOARD, BUT WE REALLY WANT TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE PUBLIC THINKS ABOUT THAT. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING. THE PHOTOS ARE OF RILEY STREET. THEY'RE NOT GREAT BECAUSE I TOOK SOME WELL, THE ONES FROM THE PARKING LOT OF THE PEDIATRICIANS ARE DECENT, BUT THE OTHER ONES, I STAYED IN MY CAR BECAUSE IT TOOK THEM OUT OF THE WINDOW, BECAUSE I VALUE MY LIMBS AND DIDN'T WANT TO GET HIT. BUT THOSE ARE PHOTOS OF RILEY STREET AND THEY SHOW THE EMPTY LOTS, THE GREEN SPACE, AND THEN THE WHAT DO YOU CALL THE SPACE STORAGE THING WHERE [01:20:04] THERE'S NOTHING? SO I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT. BUT RILEY STREET MAKES ME SAD TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING ON THERE. AND THERE'S ONE EMPTY LOT THAT'S NOW ALL CHOPPED DOWN. SO RIGHT NOW, WHAT I CAN SAY IS WE'RE CONTINUING TO TRY TO REEVALUATE ZONING EVERYWHERE IN THE TOWN. YOU DO. YEARS FROM NOW, I'M GOING TO BE CREMATED AND HOPEFULLY IN THE ATLANTIC OCEAN OFF CAPE COD. YEAH, BUT. BAD IDEA. SERIOUSLY, I BUT SO I THINK YOU HAVE TO BE PREPARED FOR THE FUTURE BECAUSE WHOEVER SAW CRYPTOCURRENCY AND THERE ARE GOING TO BE MORE THINGS. WE KNOW THAT. AND THE THING ABOUT JOB CREATION, EVERYTHING IS AUTOMATED ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE ROBOTS. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO CREATE JOBS. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, DIANA PATTON. AND THE BOARD HAS THE HANDOUT THAT MISS PATTON PROVIDED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING. GOOD EVENING. I AM THE PRESIDENT OF EAGLE CREST TENANT ASSOCIATION. TO SPEAK TONIGHT FOR THE FAMILIES, SENIORS, VETERANS AND WORKING PEOPLE WHO CALL EAGLE CREST HOME. I DISCOVERED THAT THERE'S THERE WAS A VARIANCE OR A RESOLUTION IN 1987 BY THE TOWN OF HAMBURG FOR EAGLE CREST MOBILE HOME PARK WAS GRANTED FOR WAIVING TENANT RECREATIONAL SPACE, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN THE BUILDING WHICH IS NOW OUR MAINTENANCE BUILDING AND OFFICE. THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN FOR OUR TENANTS. COMMUNITY CENTER. I'M ASKING FOR THAT TO BE PULLED. PROPOSAL TO TO GET RID OF THAT SO THAT OUR TENANTS CAN HAVE OUR RECREATIONAL SPACE BECAUSE WE HAVE NOTHING AND EVERYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH WHAT THEY WERE ASKING FOR, FOR THAT VARIANCE OR THAT PROPOSAL, IT NO LONGER EXISTS. PLUS, THEIR OFFICE USED TO BE IN A MOBILE HOME IN THE PARK. I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW THEY MOVED IT OVER TO THAT BUILDING IF IT WASN'T ZONED FOR THAT. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE TOWN BOARD CAN LOOK AT, BECAUSE I KNOW ALL OF YOU HAVE ASKED ME, WHAT CAN THE BOARD DO? BEYOND THE VARIANCE? OUR COMMUNITY FACES URGENT SAFETY CONCERNS. JUST THIS PAST WEEK, TWO NEW HOLES APPEARED IN THE BRIDGE THAT CONNECTS THE BACK OF EAGLE CREST WITH THE FRONT OF EAGLE CREST. FOR THREE DAYS. THE ONLY REPAIR WAS A TRAFFIC CONE OVER THE HOLE, AND IT STARTED OFF ABOUT THE SIZE OF A BROOMSTICK. AND IT'S NOW ABOUT THE SIZE OF ABOUT THAT BIG THE THE ASPHALT WAS FALLING IN. THIS BRIDGE IS ESSENTIAL FOR CHILDREN, SENIORS AND EMERGENCY VEHICLES. BRIDGES ARE GOING OVER THAT CONSTANTLY. 2 OR 3 BUSSES A DAY. AND JOHN RIVERA ACTUALLY SENT OVER A COUNTY INSPECTOR AFTER HIS PEOPLE WALKED THROUGH. BY THE WAY, HIS PEOPLE WERE THE ONES THAT FOUND THAT HOLE. THAT I GOT TO SPEAK WITH THAT INSPECTOR WHO WAS DOWN IN THE CULVERT. I GUESS THERE'S HOLES IN THE CULVERT THAT HAVE RUSTED THROUGH BECAUSE OF THE BRIDGE FLOODING THREE TIMES IN THE PAST TEN YEARS, AND THE FILL UNDER THE ROAD. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW HOW CULVERT BRIDGE IS CONSTRUCTED. IT'S BASICALLY A BOX WITH A BUNCH OF GRAVEL AND ROCKS AND DIRT AND STUFF IN IT, AND THEN CEMENT RAILS AND THEN A CEMENT SLAB OVER THAT AND THEN ASPHALT. WELL, ALL THAT FILL HAS GONE INTO THAT CREEK THAT GOES THROUGH THE WHOLE TOWN OF HAMBURG AND OUT EMPTIES OUT INTO THE LAKE. AND SO WE'RE GETTING SINKHOLES IN OUR, OUR ROAD THAT GO DOWN TWO, THREE, FOUR FEET. WE DON'T KNOW HOW FAR. IMAGINE A BUS. A BUS, SCHOOL BUS, OR IN THE WINTER THE ROAD TILTS THAT WAY, AND THAT BUS GOES OFF THE RAIL AND DOWN THE 15 20 FOOT RAVINE. I'M I'M SCARED OF THAT. FOR THE KIDS ON THOSE BUSSES. JUST RECENTLY, ILLEGAL DUMPING HAPPENED BY OUR MAINTENANCE GUY. IT WAS WITNESSED BY, I'D SAY, ABOUT 4 TO 6 OF OUR TENANTS, AND THEY CALLED ME TO GO TAKE A LOOK AT IT. HE DUMPED BRUSH AND GRASS CLIPPINGS TWICE, TWO HUGE LOADS ON A TRAILER INTO THE WOODS UPSTREAM FROM THE BRIDGE. AND THAT'S JUST SITTING THERE ON THE CLIFF. NOW, GRANTED, THERE'S ABOUT 3 TO 4FT OF FLAT LAND BEFORE IT REACHES THE CLIFF, BUT YOU TAKE SNOW, ICE, ALL THAT STUFF, AND IT GOES DOWN THERE. THAT'S THAT'S GONNA END UP IN THE CREEK AND CLOG THE THE CULVERT. AGAIN. THIS CONDUCT VIOLATES MULTIPLE LAWS [01:25:05] AND ORDINANCES, INCLUDING TOWN OF HAMBURG, CODE 283 PROHIBITING DISCHARGE, DISCHARGE OF REFUSE YARDS, YARD WASTE OR DEBRIS INTO ANY DRAINAGE COURSE OR PUBLIC WATERWAY. NEW YORK ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION LAW 17 0501 PROHIBITING POLLUTION OF STATE WATERS SIX NYC, PART 703.2. ESTABLISHING STANDARDS FOR WATER QUALITY AND PROTECTION. THIS STUFF ENDS UP IN LAKE ERIE. IT STEALS THE OXYGEN AND CAN KILL THE FISH AND EVERYTHING IN LAKE ERIE. THIS IS THIS IS SOME SERIOUS, SERIOUS ENVIRONMENTAL STUFF. I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S JUST GRASS AND CLIPPINGS AND STUFF, BUT THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS. IT ALSO CREATES A PLACE FOR THE RAT PROBLEM TO FOR THESE RATS TO BE MAKE A HABITAT DURING THE WINTER AND SPREAD. I FILED A COMPLAINT WITH THE DEC ALREADY AND I ALREADY ASKED THE POLICE TO COME OUT. BUT THE POLICE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS AGAINST THE LAW OR OUR ORDINANCES HERE IN TOWN HAMBURG. SO THEY DOCUMENTED IT AND I LET THEM KNOW THAT EVEN THOUGH THIS IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE WATERWAY, IT'S SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE. WE ARE CONTINUALLY GETTING RETALIATION FROM MANAGEMENT. I WENT UP FRONT JUST RECENTLY ON SEPTEMBER 12TH AND ASKED THE MANAGER, BECAUSE I KEEP GETTING WRITTEN UP EVERY TIME I COME AND SPEAK OR DO ANYTHING, AND I WAS TOLD THAT ME KNOCKING ON DOORS WAS HARASSING TENANTS, SO I WENT UP THERE TO TALK TO HER. PLUS I GOT ACCUSED OF TAMPERING WITH A BAIT STATION FRONT OF MY HOME. I CAN BARELY PICK ANYTHING UP OFF THE GROUND, BUT I'M GOING TO GO OUT THERE AND PLAY WITH A BAIT STATION. SO DURING THAT CONVERSATION, IT TURNED OUT BEING A YELLING AND SCREAMING MATCH BACK AND FORTH, AND I HAD TO. I LOST MY MY COOL, MY PTSD GOT TRIGGERED. IT WAS A BAD WEEK. THAT WAS THE WEEK OF CHARLIE KIRK. AND IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING, TRANS PEOPLE BECAME THE TARGET OF ALL THAT STUFF. SEPTEMBER 12TH, YOU KNOW, SEPTEMBER 11TH WAS THE DAY BEFORE. SO A LOT OF STRESS THAT WEEK. AND I LOST IT IN THE PARKING LOT AFTER HAVING SOMETHING YELLED BEHIND ME AS WE WERE LEAVING. I HAVE THIS ON VIDEO. I CAN GIVE YOU THE VIDEO. YOU CAN SEE EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED THAT DAY. WELL, I WAS YELLING FOR THE POLICE TO COME AND GET ME SO I COULD GO TO THE VA. SHE CALLED THE POLICE AND SAID THAT I WANTED TO FIGHT THEM. I CAME IN SCREAMING, I WANTED TO FIGHT THEM. AND THE ONLY REASON WHY SHE DIDN'T PRESS CHARGES IS BECAUSE THE OFFICER TOLD HER THAT SHE'D BE FILING A FALSE POLICE REPORT, AND I ACTUALLY ASKED THAT WITH THE POLICE. AND I DID FILE MY OWN POLICE REPORT, AND IT WAS MOSTLY ABOUT HOW I WAS HAVING A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS AT THE TIME. AT A RECENT COFFEE MEETUP HOSTED BY OUR PARK, PRIVATE TENANT ISSUES WERE DISCUSSED PUBLICLY, SUCH AS EVICTIONS, RENT INCREASES FOR CERTAIN PEOPLE. OUR MANAGER BASICALLY SAID THAT RHP PROPERTIES AND TOM CATALANO, OUR REGIONAL MANAGER, ALLOW HER TO MAKE ANY DECISION WITH THE PARK, INCLUDING WHO GETS WHAT RENT INCREASES. THAT'S NOT PROFESSIONAL, NOR IS IT LEGAL. RENT IS COVERED BY A CONTRACT AND STATE LAW, NOT PERSONAL PREFERENCE. AND I WOULD LIKE THE SOMEONE TO INVESTIGATE. ARE WE BEING SINGLED OUT ON WHO GETS MORE RENT AND WHO DOESN'T, AND WHO WHO GETS UNDER 3%, WHICH THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO GO ABOVE ANYWAYS? CLOSING APPEAL. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR FAVORS. WE ARE ASKING FOR THE TOWN TO ENFORCE THE LAW, REVOKE OUTDATED VARIANCE, ENSURE THE BRIDGE AND DRAINAGE SYSTEM ARE REPAIRED, INCLUDING THE EMERGENCY EXIT. REQUIRE CLEANUP OF ALL ILLEGAL DUMPING, AND MAKE A CLEAR MAKE IT CLEAR THAT RETALIATION AGAINST TENANTS WILL NOT BE TOLERATED IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG. THANK YOU. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL ANSWER THEM. I DON'T THINK SO. IS THAT WHEN YOU CALLED ME UP? WHEN YOU ASKED FOR. YEAH. WHEN FELLOW VETERAN CALL YOUR BUDDY, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE ON OPPOSITE SIDES. YOU'RE A BUDDY, SO. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANKS, DONNA. MISS PAGANO, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK? OKAY. SO A LOT OF IMPORTANT THINGS GOING ON HERE TONIGHT. I WOULD LIKE FOR A MINUTE TO BRING IT BACK TO THE SENIOR CENTER. I LIVE ON ALI LANE. MY HUSBAND AND I MOVED HERE DURING THE PANDEMIC. [01:30:05] WE REALLY DIDN'T KNOW ANYBODY EXCEPT MY SON HERE IN HAMBURG. SO WE WENT TO THE SENIOR CENTER AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET PEOPLE. NOT LONG AFTER I WAS THERE, I JOINED A SEWING GROUP AT THE SENIOR CENTER AS A WAY TO MEET PEOPLE IN ONE OF THE BEST DECISIONS THAT I DID, I'VE MET SOME TRULY WONDERFUL THINGS, BUT THERE'S SOMETHING THAT GOES ON THERE THAT I DON'T THINK MANY PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF. KEITH, WOULD YOU HOLD THAT UP? THE SENIOR CENTER SEWING GROUP, WHICH IS A GROUP OF ABOUT 15 WOMEN OF ALL DIFFERENT AGES, MEET THERE A COUPLE TIMES A MONTH, AND WE MAKE QUILTS OF VALOR. A QUILT OF VALOR IS A QUILT MANY OF YOU PROBABLY KNOW. I HOPE SOME OF YOU HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE PRESENTATIONS THAT ARE GIVEN TO OUR VETERANS AND OUR ACTIVE MILITARY AS A THANK YOU FOR THEIR SERVICE. WE HOPE THAT IT BRINGS THEM COMFORT AND UNDERSTANDING. IF YOU GO ONLINE TO QUILTS OF VALOR, YOU CAN HEAR THE HISTORY OF IT. BUT OUR LITTLE SEWING GROUP OUT OF HAMBURG, SEWING SENIOR WELL, LET'S SEE. HAMBURG COMMUNITY CENTER SEWING GROUP MEETING TWICE A WEEK OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS HAVE PRESENTED, DONATED, MADE 600 OF THESE. SIGNED MY WIFE UP WHEREVER SHE IS. AND THAT CAN'T STOP. THAT CAN'T STOP. THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON AT THAT SENIOR CENTER THAT MUST CONTINUE. WE NEED A NEW LOCATION THAT IS A LITTLE BETTER FOR US TO WORK IN. WE NEED LIGHTING. WE NEED ELECTRICAL, WE NEED RIGHT HEIGHT TABLES TO WORK IN THE. THE PEOPLE AT ECC HAVE DONE EVERYTHING TO HELP ACCOMMODATE US IN THE TEMPORARY SITUATION, BUT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE PERMANENT SPACE. THAT'S WHY I WANT A NEW COMMUNITY CENTER AND I WANT IT NOW. I WANT IT FRESH. I WANT IT CLEAN, I WANT IT WELCOMING, AND I WANT IT SAFE. I WANT THE FIRE STATION AND THE PARAMEDICS TO BE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET IN CASE THEY'RE NEEDED. AND MORE IMPORTANT TO ME IS THOSE LITTLE KIDS TODAY. THEY'RE MY GRANDCHILDREN. I DON'T TAKE THEM TO A MALL. I DON'T WANT THAT RESPONSIBILITY. IT'S TOO RISKY. I WANT A PLACE WHERE I CAN TAKE THEM AND HAVE FUN WITH THEM. AND THAT STORY, THE BIRD ACTUALLY POOPED ON COCO'S HEAD THAT DAY. BUT THAT'S A STORY OUR FAMILY TELLS ALL THE TIME. AND SHE WILL REMEMBER THAT WHEN GRANDMA'S LONG GONE. SO PLEASE, I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT YOU CANNOT DO TO STOP THIS REFERENDUM, BUT MAYBE YOU CAN GET ERIE COUNTY TO LOOK AT THAT PETITION. AND THOSE SIGNATURES. THESE SIGNATURES WERE COLLECTED AT THE FOOTBALL GAME. OH, COME ON, IF YOU'RE DRUNK, ARE YOU LEGAL TO SIGN A SIGNATURE? AND I KNOW EVERYBODY PARTYING. THERE'S DRUNK BECAUSE EVERYBODY WAS, YOU KNOW, THE SIGNATURES THAT CORRECTED THAT. THOSE PEOPLE, ARE THEY VOTERS? DO THEY LIVE IN HAMBURG? WERE THEY MISREPRESENTED? IF YOU GO ON HIS SITE TONIGHT, WHICH I DID JUST BEFORE IT CAME HERE, HE SAID, TOMORROW I'M PRESENTING THE PETITION. THE MAN ISN'T EVEN HERE TONIGHT. I WOULD LOVE TO ASK HIM A FEW QUESTIONS TONIGHT, BUT WHEN HE GOES TOMORROW, HE SAID, COME, WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT THIS PETITION TO GET OUR SENIOR CENTER. THAT'S HIS WORDING. THAT'S HIS WORDING. THAT'S A LIE. THOSE PEOPLE HAVE WORKED FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS. OUR SEWING GROUP WAS INFORMED EVERY TIME WE MET ON WHAT WAS GOING ON, AS MUCH AS COULD BE SHARED WITH INFORMATION. THEY KEPT EVERYONE IN THAT COMMUNITY THAT USES IT UP. TO DATE. THIS MAN HAS NEVER, TO THE BEST OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF EVERYONE I HAVE ASKED, BEEN IN THE SENIOR CENTER AND HE HAS CAUSING THIS HAVOC. PLEASE DO WHAT YOU CAN. LET'S GET THIS THING BUILT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND AS A VETERAN, I LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THOSE QUILTS THAT YOU MADE, MADAM. SUPERVISOR JILL, I THINK YOU GOT A REQUEST FOR MORE ICE CREAM SOCIALS TOO. YEAH, THE THE NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE SUPERVISOR OVSHINSKY MIGHT, I MIGHT I COMMENT BRIEFLY TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT LAST COMMENT? YES. SO I, I'M JUST GOING TO SIT AND LISTEN. I SPOKE TO ONE OF THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS TODAY JUST TO CONFIRM THE PROCESS, WHICH I WAS AWARE OF, THAT ONCE IN IF AND WHEN A PETITION IS SUBMITTED TO THE TOWN CLERK'S OFFICE, THE [01:35:04] PETITION WILL THEN BE FORWARDED TO THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS AND REVIEWED FOR THE VERY INFORMATION AND DATA FOR COMPLIANCE REASONS. AND THEY WILL ISSUE A REPORT, JOINT REPORT FROM THE TWO. BOARD OF ELECTION CHAIRMAN BACK TO THE TOWN OF HAMBURG TO ASSIST US IN THE STANDARD PROCESS WE GO THROUGH. IF WE DO RECEIVE A PETITION, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE PEOPLE WHO SIGN THE PETITION THAT WERE TOLD SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND THEY WANT THEIR NAMES OFF TO SHOW? WHAT YOU CAN DO? I CAN I SPEAK? CAN I SAY SOMETHING WHICH WE WERE TOLD THAT CAN BE DONE, IS THAT YOU PUT IN A WRITTEN REQUEST. THE TOWN CLERK REQUESTING YOUR NAME TO BE TAKEN OFF THE LIST, AND IT WILL BE TAKEN OFF THE LIST. AS AS I SAID, THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS WILL REVIEW THE PETITION AS DONE IN ANY SITUATION LIKE THIS FOR COMPLIANCE, AND THEN PROVIDE A REPORT BACK TO THE TOWN. AND THEN IT'S IN THE HANDS OF THE TOWN CLERK WHO SO, IF YOU'RE INCLINED, SO INCLINED TO WANT TO SUBMIT SOME INFORMATION WHICH YOU MAY BELIEVE BE HELPFUL, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU DO SO TO THE TOWN CLERK'S OFFICE. DOES THAT TIME FRAME HAVE TO BE TOMORROW? BECAUSE THE PROVISIONS OF THE TOWN LAW THAT RELATE TO REFERENDUMS OF THIS NATURE, IT INCLUDES A VERY SHORT TIME FRAME FOR OBJECTIONS TO BE FILED IN THIS PROCESS TO BE COMPLETED SHOULD A PETITION BE FILED. MY ONLY SUGGESTION WOULD BE UNDER THE PARAMETERS OF THE STATUTE WOULD BE TO ACT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. NEXT, SPEAKER MARTIN DENECKE. HELLO EVERYONE. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY. I TOO AM SPEAKING IN RELATION TO THE SENIOR CENTER PROPOSAL. I THINK MOST OF YOU KNOW, I WORKED IN THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT AND THE COMBINED YOUTH, SENIOR AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT FOR 34 YEARS, 20 AS DIRECTOR. BEFORE RETIRING. MY BELIEF AND PRACTICE WAS THAT EFFICIENCY WAS IMPORTANT AND KEY FOR THE SUCCESS THAT, FOR OPERATIONS. AND THAT PHILOSOPHY IS, IS CARRIED ON BY JILL GORMAN KING. AND WE TALKED ABOUT EFFICIENCY TONIGHT AND OTHER CONTEXT. IN 2010 THERE WERE THREE SEPARATE DEPARTMENTS WITH THREE SEPARATE DEPARTMENT HEADS, AND WE MERGED TOGETHER WITH ONE DEPARTMENT HEAD. SO OVER THAT 15 YEAR PERIOD OF TIME, WHEN YOU TAKE AWAY THOSE SALARIES AND THE BENEFITS OF THOSE OTHER TWO DEPARTMENT HEADS, I THINK IT COULD BE CLOSE TO $3 MILLION SAVINGS. SO I THINK I'VE ALWAYS TRIED TO BE EFFICIENT. I ALWAYS TRY TO BRING IN OUTSIDE DOLLARS, AS DOES JILL. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE'RE NOT LOOKED AT IN TERMS OF WHAT OUR VALUE IS TO THIS COMMUNITY. AND I WANT TO GO OVER THAT A LITTLE BIT. AND I KNOW WE'VE HAD A LOT OF SPEECHES TONIGHT, SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO MAKE THIS AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE. BUT I DO HAVE SOME IMPORTANT THINGS TO SAY. THE YOUTH RECREATION AND SENIOR SERVICES, A LARGE OPERATION AND IS MANAGED BY A VERY SMALL FULL TIME STAFF. OVER TIME, MANY STAFF MEMBERS, FULL TIME STAFF MEMBERS HAVE BEEN LET GO UPON RETIREMENT AND NOT TO BE REHIRED. OUR PURPOSE AND REASON FOR BEING THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS WHAT I MEAN IS TO CREATE AND ALLOW FOR QUALITY OF LIFE EXPERIENCES THAT OUR CITIZENS, NEIGHBORS AND VISITORS WHO TAKE PART IN THE ACTIVITIES WITHIN OUR TOWN. BOUNDARIES. WITHIN THIS PROCESS, WE SERVE EVERY SINGLE DEMOGRAPHIC, INCLUDING CHILDREN, TROUBLED TEENS, ADULTS, FAMILIES, SENIORS, AND INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES. OUR MENU INCLUDES OPERATIONS THAT CAN RUN ANYWHERE BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 6 A.M. AND 10 P.M. SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. THAT'S QUITE A BIT TO MANAGE. WE SEEK WAYS AND MEANS TO ASSIST INDIVIDUALS AND OR FAMILIES WITH ECONOMIC CHALLENGES. WE CONTINUE TO STRIVE TO ALLOW FOR ACCESSIBILITY AND INCLUSION. WE DO NOT DISCRIMINATE, ESPECIALLY TOWARD GROUPS THAT HAVE BEEN THE TARGET OF SUCH BEHAVIOR IN YEARS GONE BY. OUR PROGRAM SERVICES, EVENTS, AND FACILITY [01:40:02] OPERATIONS HAVE GREATLY ENHANCED OUR COMMUNITY. ACCORDING TO A STUDY PUBLISHED BY THE NATIONAL RECREATION AND PARK ASSOCIATION, QUALITY PARKS AND RECREATION SYSTEMS INCREASE THE PROPERTY VALUE WITHIN A COMMUNITY. IN ADDITION, THOSE PREVIOUSLY LISTED MENU ITEMS BENEFIT THE PARTICIPANTS IN WAYS THAT INCLUDE SOCIAL, PHYSICAL, MENTAL, AND EMOTIONAL WELL-BEING. HERE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF HOW THE DEPARTMENT WAS AND REMAINS EFFICIENT. THE MERGERS THAT I ALREADY MENTIONED DURING THE 20 TENS, WE OPERATED A STATE PARK AND WE PARDON THE PUN, BUT WE BLEW IT OUT OF THE WATER IN TERMS OF REVENUES AND THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT CAME AND THE AMOUNT OF ACTIVITIES THAT WE HAD. WE PROBABLY HIRED 50 NEW PART TIME STAFF, NO FULL TIME STAFF. WE BROUGHT IN OVER $300,000 A YEAR IN NEW REVENUE. ALSO, AT THAT SAME TIME, THE MERGER, THE WOODLAWN OPERATIONS THAT WE TOOK OVER AND THE NEW BUILDING THAT WE RENOVATED ALL HAPPENED WITHIN A SPAN OF 2 OR 3 YEARS. SO WE WERE REALLY SCRAMBLING. AND AND I ALSO WANT TO SAY IN TERMS OF OUR EFFICIENCIES AND THIS CONTINUES WITH JILL. WHEN I WAS WORKING, WE HAD SOME DIFFERENT REVENUE STREAMS, SO IT MAY HAVE BEEN A LITTLE HIGHER THAN IT IS NOW. BUT I KNOW THAT DURING MY TIME WE WE BROUGHT IN ABOUT 2 MILLION, $2 MILLION IN REVENUE AND OUR SPENDING WAS ABOUT 2.25 TO 2.5 MILLION. SO WE'RE VERY CLOSE. NO OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE ANYWHERE NEAR THAT. AND I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE EFFICIENT. I SAY WE I STILL FEEL LIKE I'M PART OF THE DEPARTMENT. WE WE ARE EFFICIENT AND WE STRIVE TO BE EFFICIENT. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THIS MESSAGE OUT SO PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT FLUFF. WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, A DRAIN ON ON THE BUDGET. WE WE PROVIDE GOOD PROGRAMS AND SERVICES THAT INCREASE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OUTSIDE REVENUES. I WANT TO THANK BONNIE FOR THE KIND WORDS. THEIR ORGANIZATION, THE THYROID FOUNDATION, HAS DONATED APPROXIMATELY $100,000 TO OUR DEPARTMENT TO RUN THE ADAPTIVE SPORTS AND RECREATION PROGRAMS. LET'S HEAR IT FOR THE THYROID. IN ADDITION, MANY GRANTS, DONATIONS, SPONSORSHIPS, AND PARTNERSHIPS THAT EITHER ALLOW US TO SPEND LESS MONEY OR WE GET NEW, NEW OUTSIDE FUNDING. LEGACY PRO IS SOMETHING THAT I'M PART. I'M ON SOME COMMITTEES WITH THE TOWN. I'M SORRY, BUT WE HAVE RULES THAT WE'VE GONE BEYOND EVERY PERSON. WE HAVE A THREE MINUTE LIMIT. NO, I ASKED, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT MR. JANESKY HAS TO SAY, AND I DON'T BELIEVE HE HAS GOTTEN THAT LONG. I'LL WAIVE THE RULES. WE HAVE RULES. WE HAVE. WE HAVE RULES I BROUGHT I BROUGHT THEM WITH ME. AND SO YOU DON'T UNILATERALLY GET TO DECIDE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A MOTION. I'M JUST MAKING A COMMENT. MOTION TO WAIVE THE RULES. ON HIS THREE MINUTES. I SECOND THAT. ALL IN FAVOR? I, I I. OKAY. GOING TO TALK MORE ABOUT OUTSIDE REVENUES. I'M ON SOME COMMITTEES WITH THE TOWN AND ONE IS THE HAMBURG VISION WHERE LEGACY PRO HAS BEEN BROUGHT IN TO HELP RAISE BIG DOLLARS WITH NAMING RIGHTS, SPONSORSHIPS, ETCETERA, THAT THAT WILL HELP THE DEPARTMENT THAT HAS LOST THEIR BIG FACILITY. AND AS WE LOOK FORWARD TO WHAT IS THE NEXT FACILITY, THAT'S GOING TO BE VERY HELPFUL. I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE FULL TIME STAFF IN THE DEPARTMENT. THEY ARE NOT POLITICAL APPOINTEES. THEY'RE CAREER CIVIL SERVANTS WHO HAVE DEGREES, EXPERIENCE CREDENTIALS RELATED TO THE FIELD, AND THEY HAVE BEEN TESTED AND HAVE TO AS CIVIL SERVICE LAWS FINISH IN THE TOP THREE IN THE TITLES THAT THEY ARE APPLYING FOR, THEY ARE MANAGERS. THEY SOME PEOPLE THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THEY'RE PLAYING ON THE KIDS WITH THE PLAYGROUND, BUT THAT'S WHAT THE PART TIME STAFF DO. THESE PEOPLE ARE MANAGERS, AND THEY HANDLE BUDGET AND ACCOUNTING PERSONNEL FOR 150 TO 200 PART TIME PEOPLE. THAT'S A LOT OF WORK MARKETING, PUBLIC RELATIONS, PARK AND FACILITY PLANNING, RECRUITING PARTNERS, PURCHASING, IDENTIFYING GRANTS AND ASSISTING WITH THE APPLICATIONS. AND THEY WORK COOPERATIVELY WITH THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, ESPECIALLY THE BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS DEPARTMENT, WHO PROVIDES ALL OF OUR MAINTENANCE, LEGAL CLERK, FINANCE, POLICE AND ENGINEERING. WE ALSO PARTNER WITH OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, INCLUDING THE COUNTY AND THE STATE, WITH BUSINESSES, PROFESSIONAL [01:45:03] ASSOCIATIONS, SCHOOLS, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, AND OUR YOUTH SPORTS GROUPS. HOW DOES THIS RELATE TO THE PROPOSED COMMUNITY CENTER? WELL, I BELIEVE THAT A HARD WORKING, DILIGENT GROUP OF PROFESSIONALS KNOW THAT WE HAVE NEEDS THAT HAVE TO BE MET, ESPECIALLY WITH THE WELL THOUGHT OUT FEATURES PROPOSED IN THIS COMMUNITY CENTER. IS THIS FACILITY THE PERFECT SOLUTION? WELL, THERE IS NO PERFECT SOLUTION, BUT THERE HAS BEEN A PUBLIC PROCESS THAT WAS CONDUCTED, AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT PEOPLE COULD FREELY PARTICIPATE. PLANS WERE MADE, HOWEVER, ABOUT AND NOW WE MUST BE WORRIED ABOUT FURTHER DELAYS. THOSE DELAYS WOULD BE NEW STUDIES, NEW PLANS, NEW LOCATIONS THAT ARE BEING SCOUTED, ETCETERA. MORE TIME, EFFORT AND MONEY. WHEN A REASONABLE SOLUTION IS ALREADY ON THE TABLE. THE HISTORY OF FACILITY DEVELOPMENT IN THIS COMMUNITY HAS HITS AND MISSES. I KNOW A LOT ABOUT THAT. OVER MY 34 YEARS, AND EVEN BEFORE THERE'S FILES OF PROPOSED FACILITIES THAT NEVER HAPPENED. RIGHT NOW, THE CLOCK IS TICKING AND I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THE BOARD MEMBERS AND CANDIDATES TO WORK TOGETHER AND TO UNIFY TOWARD THE GREATER GOOD. THERE ARE STACKED. WELL, I ALREADY SAID THAT. LET'S LET'S MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN, AND THE SOONER THE BETTER. AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. I JUST MARRY YOU. I THINK WHEN YOU WERE MENTIONING ALL THESE OUTSIDE ENTITIES AND STUFF, YOU FORGOT TO MENTION YOURSELF. THE RECREATION FOUNDATION AND RECREATION FOUNDATION, WHICH I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO BE A LIAISON ON, AND YOU LET ME THROW MY $0.02 IN ONCE IN A WHILE. BUT YEAH, YOU DO GREAT WORK, YOU CONTINUE TO DO GREAT WORK AND HOPEFULLY THEY THE FOUNDATION DOES CONTRIBUTE MONEY AND HELPS RAISE MONEY AND FINDS GRANT MONEY FOR THE TOWN. AND WHEN THEY HAVE A FUNDRAISER, I'LL DEFINITELY LET YOU KNOW SO YOU CAN ALL CHIP IN AND SUPPORT THE RECREATION FUND. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, BOB REYNOLDS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU SAID. MORNING, TOWN BOARD. SUPERVISOR RACZYNSKI. NICE MORNING TO ME RIGHT NOW. YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME ALREADY. I'M TELLING YOU. CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO THANK LEGISLATOR COUNCILMAN KOZAK AND BOB MAHONEY IF HE'S STILL HERE FOR THE OUTSTANDING JOB THEY DID ON THE GARBAGE. WE BROUGHT THAT UP IN THE JOE KILLIAN'S TAXPAYERS ASSOCIATION. WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ON THAT. WE WERE COMPARING BILLS. WE DID THAT FOR A YEAR AND A HALF OUT OF OUR ASSOCIATION TAXPAYERS. IT REMINDS ME OF THE DAYS WHEN I WAS BACK WITH STEVE SINNOTT WORKING ON THE TAXPAYERS ASSOCIATION STANDING UP HERE, AND I REMEMBER WHEN WE FOUGHT WOODLAWN BEACH, BUT IT WAS NICE TO SEE OUR ASSOCIATION OF TAXPAYERS OUT THERE DOING SOME GREAT WORK. AND I THINK THAT'S GREAT THAT WE GOT THIS GARBAGE DISTRICT, AND IT'S REALLY A BENEFIT TO EVERYBODY. THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IS I GOT THIS LETTER IN THE MAIL, THE VISION. HAMBURG VISION MAIL, AND I JUST WANT THIS BOARD TO KNOW THAT. I WORK AT FORD. I'M IN THE STAMPING PLANT AT FORD. WE HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES AT FORD MOTOR COMPANY RIGHT NOW. I WAS TALKING TO THE PLANT MANAGER AT OUR OPEN HOUSE OVER THERE IN FUNDING, AND OUR EMPLOYMENT LEVELS ARE DOWN. WE'RE DOWN ABOUT 650 PEOPLE THERE. THERE USED TO BE WHEN I RETIRED, 3000 PEOPLE. I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THAT PLANT'S GOING TO BE AROUND, AND I SEE WESTERN FORD'S BEEN ADVERTISED AS AN AUTO DEALERSHIP AND THAT'S GREAT. I APPRECIATE ALL THAT. ADVERTISEMENT. I JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW THIS VISION IS GOING TO SET UP FOR THE OTHER DEALERSHIPS WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND WHAT TYPE OF FUNDING WE'RE GOING TO DO. I LOOKED AT THE FUNDING. I DIDN'T SEE FUNDING FOR THIS VISION GOING FORWARD. SO I HOPE THAT THERE'S A PLAN THAT YOU CAN PASS ON TO THE NEXT SUPERVISOR, WHOEVER IT IS. KATHY, I'M SORRY, MR. OGINSKI, I APOLOGIZE. WE'VE KNOWN FOR A LONG TIME, BUT WE NEED A PLAN ON THIS. THE VISION PLAN THAT I READ WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A SELF-FUNDED VISION PLAN. IT'S NO LONGER SELF-FUNDED VISION PLAN, AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND. SO THIS LETTER, THIS LETTER WENT OUT TO RESIDENTS. I APPRECIATE IT. AT THE GARBAGE MEETING. THEY WANT A LETTER TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN JANUARY 1ST WITH THE GARBAGE. SO THAT'S AN IMPORTANT TIE IN. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO START DOING MAILINGS AND STUFF LIKE THIS, WE GOT TO BE CONSISTENT. WHETHER I'M AROUND IN FIVE YEARS OR TWO YEARS, I'D LIKE TO SEE CONSISTENCY. AND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME. SO I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THAT BUFFALO STAMPING PLANT, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO WORK WITH [01:50:03] THEM OUT OF THE IDA BOARD, AND WE CAN'T GET THROUGH TO THEM ON THAT. IT MIGHT BE OUR BIGGEST EMPLOYER, BUT WE MIGHT ALSO LOSE OUR EMPLOYER OVER THERE. AND SO THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR THIS BOARD TO KNOW, BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE GOT A LOT GOING ON WITH OUR BUDGET. MARTY, OLD FRIEND OF MINE, I REMEMBER JOHN FARRELL. THAT'S HOW FAR BACK YOU AND I GO BACK. AND HE WAS A GREAT GUY BACK THERE, MARTY. HE REALLY WAS. AND I UNDERSTAND THE SENIOR CENTER AND STUFF, BUT I HOPE THERE'S A PLAN GOING FORWARD IF YOU CAN SHARE IT WITH THE REST OF THE BOARD MEMBERS. SO EVERYBODY KNOWS HOW WE'RE GOING TO PICK THESE PEOPLE, HOW WE'RE GOING TO FUND THIS PROGRAM. I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT IF WE CAN DO IT. THANK YOU AND HAVE A GREAT DAY. THANKS FOR YOUR KIND WORDS. BUT WHEN MR. REYNOLDS, I DID WHEN I RECEIVED THAT LETTER. I'M ON THE HAMBURG VISION COMMITTEE, AND IT AND I AND I, I PERSONALLY I THINK YOU SHOULD DIRECT IT TO THE TO THE TO MY COLLEAGUES. I CAN TELL YOU THAT I AM ON THE, ON THE COMMITTEE AND I WAS NOT CONSULTED RELATIVE TO THE PRODUCTION OF THAT DOCUMENT. AND I WAS TOLD THE MINIMUM OF $15,000 WAS SPENT BY THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, AND PROBABLY MORE. AND I'M STILL TRYING TO GET ANSWERS ON ON THAT DOCUMENT. AND WHAT'S PROBLEMATIC ABOUT IT, AND WHETHER IT'S WHETHER YOU FEEL IT OR WHAT YOUR OPINION IS, THE LAW ISN'T WHAT YOU WANT IT TO BE. IT'S NOT WHAT YOU THINK IT SHOULD BE. IT'S NOT WHAT YOU HOPE IT CAN BE. THAT DOCUMENT WAS SENT OUT TO PROMOTE WESTAR, FORD AND FORD, AND THAT'S ILLEGAL. AND THE REASON IT'S ILLEGAL IS BECAUSE THAT IS A PRIVATE ENTITY NOW. SO WE CAN'T START PICKING WINNERS AND LOSERS OR WHO WE'RE GOING TO PICK. AND SO I WROTE MY MY COLLEAGUES, I WAS TOLD IT WAS COUNCIL MEMBER LORENZ, THE SUPERVISOR AND THE RECREATION DIRECTOR THAT HAD PUT THAT DOCUMENT OUT. NOW, IT NEVER WENT TO THE BOARD. AND SO THAT'S PROBLEMATIC. AND THIS IS WHY I SAID BEFORE ABOUT WANTING TO HAVE LEGAL COSTS GO BEFORE THE BOARD, BECAUSE WE ROUTINELY APPROVE MINOR EXPENSES OR NOT MINOR, BUT EXPENSES OF A COUPLE HUNDRED DOLLARS AND A $15,000 GOES OUT, $15,000 IN A TIME WHEN THE TOWN IS GOING TO BE RAISING TAXES FOR COMMUNITY CENTER, RAISING TAXES FOR OTHER ENDEAVORS FOR BUDGETARY PURPOSES. AND THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE. SO I'M STILL INVESTIGATING. I'M INVESTIGATING THIS, BUT BUT I PUT THE BOARD MEMBERS ON NOTICE. I DID MY LEGAL RESEARCH. I CITED THE CASE LAW, WHY IT'S INAPPROPRIATE. AND YOU CAN'T JUST DO THAT. IT'S IMPROPER TO SPEND TAXPAYER MONEY TO PROMOTE THOSE THINGS. AND I'D RATHER NOT GET INTO IT. BUT THE BOARD'S NOW ON NOTICE. SO THE NEXT TIME SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENS, IT PROBABLY WON'T BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE SHOULD REALLY REIMBURSE THE TAXPAYERS FOR IT. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THE MESSAGE CAME OUT FROM THE SUPERVISOR'S OFFICE. IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH BETH FARRELL. I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU WANT TO THROW HER IN. EVERY TIME YOU TALK, YOU GOTTA MENTION HER NAME. KEN'S NAME? YES, I'M TALKING. SO, YOU KNOW, EVERY EVERY TIME YOU GET A CHANCE, YOU THROW STONES. YOU'RE ON THE COMMITTEE. MAYBE IF YOU WENT TO A MEETING, MAYBE YOU'D FIND STUFF OUT. I HAVE BEEN AT THEM. OKAY, I HAVE BEEN, I'VE BEEN AT THE MEETINGS AND I RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM PAT SHEA FROM PAT SHIRE, FINANCE DIRECTOR. I SAID MR. SHEA, WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR GENERATING THIS DOCUMENT, HE TOLD ME IT WAS A SUPERVISOR. HE TOLD ME IT WAS JILL GORMAN KING, AND IT WAS MRS. FARRELL LORENZ. THAT'S A THAT'S WHAT HE TOLD ME. NOW, MY JOB AS A FIDUCIARY AND IT'S NOT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT HE TOLD YOU. AND THAT'S IT. WELL, AND THAT'S NOT WHAT HE SAID. WE HAVE THE EMAIL. AND I ALSO SO PLEASE SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS LIKE THIS. BUT I'M TIRED OF IT. BOTH CROSS PARTY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU I'VE SAID WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. NEXT SPEAKER OH I'M SORRY. THANKS. YEAH, I DID HAVE THIS MATTER VETTED BY OUTSIDE COUNSEL, AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH IT. THEY READ IT VERY CLOSELY. THEY LOOKED AT THE LAW. AND SO THERE'S A NEWSLETTER WITH SOME GENERAL PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENTS. WHO IS THE OUTSIDE COUNSEL? VETTED IT AND YOU DIDN'T. THIS IS ANOTHER REASON WHY. AND THIS WAS DONE WAS THE BILL. HOW MUCH DID THEY CHARGE YOU FOR THAT. NOTHING FOR THAT. SO AND THIS IS AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHY THERE'S AN INHERENT CONFLICT OF INTEREST HERE THAT. I'LL WAIT AND ASK MR. SHEA TO RESPOND WHEN IT'S WHEN HE GIVES US A DEPARTMENT REPORT. YEAH. THAT'S WHY YOU GUYS PRACTICE LAW, BECAUSE YOU'RE ALWAYS PRACTICING. NEXT SPEAKER. AMY. HI. THANK YOU FOR [01:55:04] GIVING A MOMENT FOR ME TO SHARE MY THOUGHTS WITH NOT ONLY THE BOARD, BUT ALSO WITH OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S REALLY WONDERFUL TO SEE EVERYONE HERE CARING AND HOPEFULLY PEOPLE AT HOME LEARNING AND CARING ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON HERE, BECAUSE WE LIVE IN AN AMAZING COMMUNITY WITH INCREDIBLE PEOPLE, WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE INTEGRITY AND WORK HARD FOR OUR TOWN. AND THE MINIMUM WE CAN DO AS CITIZENS IS TO SHOW APPRECIATION AND RESPECT FOR THE TIME AND DILIGENCE AND TALENT THAT OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS BRING TO OUR TOWN TO TRY TO ACHIEVE POSITIVE RESULTS FOR OUR FAMILIES, FOR OUR CHILDREN, FOR OUR ELDERS, AND FOR OUR FUTURE. AND TONIGHT, I HAVE SEEN SOME REALLY THOUGHTFUL PEOPLE COME UP HERE AND SHARE HEARTFELT SENTIMENTS ABOUT WHAT THEY HOPE FOR OUR TOWN. AND THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT I AM PROUD TO CALL MY NEIGHBORS. ALL OF YOU WHO CARE, ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING, WHO ARE LEARNING ABOUT THIS PROCESS. AND I'M GOING TO SHARE MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY CENTER. I AM A MOTHER OF THREE CHILDREN HERE. I HAVE ELDERS, SOME ARE DISABLED, PARAPLEGIC. I HAVE A A SENIOR MOTHER. OBVIOUSLY I'M PRACTICALLY SENIOR MYSELF, BUT WHEN I LEARNED ABOUT THE CENTER, I HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THE LOCATION. I WAS WORRIED THAT MY CHILDREN COULDN'T GET THERE EASILY. I WAS WORRIED THAT ELDERLY PEOPLE COULDN'T GET THERE EASILY. I WAS WORRIED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE ASPHALT PLANT LOCATION. AND I WAS THINKING, WELL, MAYBE THAT WOULD BE A BETTER SPOT. AND I HAD ALL KINDS OF IDEAS AND CRITIQUES. AND YOU KNOW WHAT I DID WITH THOSE CRITIQUES? I MADE PHONE CALLS AND I GOT REAL INFORMATION FROM THE PEOPLE WHO WERE REALLY INVOLVED AND REALLY SHOWING UP TO THE MEETINGS, SHOWING UP TO THE MEETINGS, WHICH FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, NOT ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CHARGED WITH THIS RESPONSIBILITY DID. AND THEY CONSULTED PROFESSIONALS THAT WERE PAID BY OUR TAX MONEY THAT IS HARD EARNED AND HARD PAID, AND WE ALL SACRIFICED TO PAY THOSE TAXES. AND IT'S AN INVESTMENT IN OUR FUTURE. SO WHEN WE HAVE OUR TAXES BEING SPENT FOR PROFESSIONALS TO MAKE PLANS AND FOR LEGAL TO ADVISE, WE NEED TO TRUST AND PEOPLE WHO ARE UNDERMINING THE TRUST WITH MISINFORMATION, WITH FEAR TACTICS. AS I'VE LEARNED FROM MY BEST FRIEND WHO CALLED ME THE OTHER DAY AND TOLD ME SOMEONE SHOWED UP AT MY DOOR AND HE HAD ALL THIS INFORMATION TO SAY, AND I. AND I'M TOTALLY FREAKED OUT BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY CENTER IS GOING TO BE OVER BUDGET AND THIS IS GOING TO BE TERRIBLE. AND ALL OF THIS. AND I SAID, WELL, DID YOU TALK TO ANYONE WHO ACTUALLY HAS KNOWLEDGE, OR ARE YOU TRUSTING THIS PERSON WHO SHOWED UP AT YOUR DOOR? AND I SAID, PLEASE MAKE SOME PHONE CALLS, BECAUSE WHEN I DID, I LEARNED THAT IT WAS CAREFULLY VETTED, THAT ALL THE OPTIONS WERE EXPLORED, THAT THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY AS A COMMUNITY TO OWN SOMETHING THAT WE CAN BUILD ON SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL AND GREAT THAT WE CAN USE TO BUILD A COMMUNITY THAT WE NEED. WE SO DESPERATELY NEED. OUR SENIORS NEED TO NOT BE ISOLATED. OUR CHILDREN NEED CONNECTION. WE ARE IN A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS. WE ARE FACING LAYOFFS. WE ARE FACING FINANCIAL ISSUES INDIVIDUALLY, AS FAMILIES AND AS A COMMUNITY. WHAT BETTER TIME THAN NOW FOR US TO COME TOGETHER AND SHARE OUR RESOURCES, TO BUILD A SPACE WHERE WE CAN CONNECT AND HELP EACH OTHER, AND THIS IS THE TIME WE NEED TO CONNECT AND TRUST PEOPLE WHO DO THE WORK, WHO DO THE. VERY HARD, VERY BORING, VERY THANKLESS WORK OF LOOKING INTO EVERY PLACE. AND I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER COMERFORD, WHO IS A DEMOCRAT, AND COUNCIL MEMBER LORENZ, WHO IS A REPUBLICAN, BECAUSE THEY WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE A PLAN THAT WILL WORK FOR OUR COMMUNITY ONLY TO BE UNDERMINED BY MEN WHO DISRESPECT THEM AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY. AND AS A WOMAN, I FIND THAT COMPLETELY INSULTING. AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK COUNCILMAN KOZUB FOR RESPECTING THE SPEAKERS HERE AND AFFORDING US THE CHANCE TO TALK AND DEFENDING PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING MALIGNED HERE. AND I FEEL LIKE OUR COMMUNITY IS BETTER THAN THIS DIVISION, AND WE SHOULD COME TOGETHER TO SUPPORT EACH OTHER IN A PLAN [02:00:01] THAT WE HAVE HAD CAREFUL CONSIDERATION OF, HAD AMPLE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLORE. I PERSONALLY SHOWED UP TO THE MEETINGS, THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS THAT WERE OFFERED, MANY OF THEM BY JILL GORMAN KING, MANY OPPORTUNITIES WITH FULL TRANSPARENCY, WITH ANY QUESTION WE COULD ASK. AND I ASKED A LOT AND I HAD MY QUESTIONS ANSWERED. SO I HOPE THIS COMMUNITY COMES BEHIND THIS PLAN. AND OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO ARE DOING THE WORK TO SUPPORT A VISION OF OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY THAT CAN BE BUILT ON THERE CAN BE ANCILLARY OPPORTUNITIES, THERE CAN BE GROWING TRANSPORTATION OPPORTUNITIES. ALL OF THIS CAN HAPPEN IF WE WORK TOGETHER AND WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER. AND THE TIME IS NOW. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO. THAT. CONCLUDES THE I'M SORRY, BARBARA HARNICK. YEAH. UNLESS YOU DON'T. OKAY. CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. MY STORY IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, AND I NEED YOU TO PAY ATTENTION. OKAY? THIS IS MY STORY AND MY INVOLVEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY CENTER. AND I KNOW I'M BEATING A DEAD HORSE, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LISTEN, OKAY? MY STORY BEGAN WHEN I WAS PUTTING THINGS IN AND OUT OF THE ATTIC, AND I WAS COMING DOWN THE LADDER AND MY RIGHT ARM GOT STUCK IN THE LADDER WHEN IT TIPPED AND HIT THE WALL AND SHOT ME TO THE FLOOR WITH MY ARM STUCK. I COULD NOT BREAK MY FALL, MY GLASSES EMBEDDED CUT, MY EYE EMBEDDED IN MY FOREHEAD, AND WHEN I HIT THE FLOOR, MY NECK TURNED TO THE SIDE. I BROKE MY NECK AND MY LIFE CHANGED IN SECONDS. NOW I REMIND YOU, I WAS ONLY TWO STEPS FROM THE FLOOR WHEN THIS HAPPENED. NO ONE WAS HOME. I LAID DROWNING IN A POOL OF BLOOD. I COULDN'T MOVE ONE THING ON MY BODY. MY HANDS. I WAS MY PHONE WAS IN MY POCKET. I COULDN'T CALL FOR HELP. THERE WAS NOTHING I COULD DO. SO I SPENT SEVEN MONTHS IN E-C-M-C LEARNING TO MOVE EVERY PART OF MY BODY. AGAIN. NOTHING MOVED. I HAD A PANIC BUTTON ON MY CHEST SO I COULD MOVE MY CHIN AND CALL FOR HELP. WELL, I FOUGHT LIKE. TO MOVE MY HANDS AGAIN, MY LEGS AGAIN, AND THEN. AFTER A GIVEN AMOUNT OF TIME, THE INSURANCE SAID, THAT'S THE END OF THERAPY FOR YOU. IT'S ALL ON YOUR BACK NOW, BARB. SO I SOUGHT OUT MY COMMUNITY CENTER, AND I WENT THERE AND I WORKED DILIGENTLY TO KEEP MYSELF GOING WITHOUT A THERAPIST. OKAY. JUST WORKING ON THE MACHINE THAT I COULD WORK ON. AND THEY MOVED AND I, I SPENT TWO YEARS WORRYING AND HEARING FRONTIER WANTED THIS BACK. WHERE ARE WE GOING? WHERE AM I GOING TO GO? WHAT AM I GOING TO DO? I WENT, NOW I'M AT IC. NOT AN EASY TREK, BUT I'M STILL GOING DILIGENTLY BECAUSE I WANT TO KEEP MOVING AND IT'S UP TO ME AT THIS POINT, OKAY. AND IT ONLY TAKES A SECOND. GUYS, FOR YOUR LIFE TO CHANGE LIKE THAT. AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT COMMUNITY CENTER. I SEEN ALL THOSE KIDS, AND THOSE KIDS WOULD RUN TO THE DOOR IF I COULDN'T REACH THE BUTTON TO LET ME IN. THOSE KIDS THAT WERE WORKING IN THE GYM THERE BECAME FRIENDS OF MINE BECAUSE THEY KNEW ME. AND WHEN I CAME AND THEY SAID HELLO, AND NOW I GOT TO WONDER AND THINK, WHERE AM I [02:05:09] GOING NEXT? FOR WHAT REASON? THIS IS A BONE OF CONTENTION FOR A POLITICAL. I'M NOT POLITICAL. I DON'T WANT TO BE. I'M NOT A DEMOCRAT. I'M NOT A REPUBLICAN. I'M NOT AN INDEPENDENT. I'M A TAX PAYING VOTER IN THIS TOWN. I HAVE PAID TAXES HERE FOR 48 YEARS. I JUST GOT A SCHOOL TAX BILL FOR NEARLY $4,000. AND GUESS WHAT? I HAVEN'T HAD A CHILD IN SCHOOL IN 27 YEARS. AND NOW WHEN I NEED THIS TOWN TO GIVE BACK TO ME, IT'S SO READILY THROWN ASIDE, FOR GOD ONLY KNOWS WHAT REASON IT'S. I COULD HAVE PAID FOR THE DAMN THING WITH ALL THE TAXES THAT I HAVE PAID. SO I'M SORRY IF THIS IS PASSIONATE. I'M SORRY I'M NOT HERE FOR YOUR SYMPATHY AT ALL. I DON'T NEED SYMPATHY. WHAT I NEED IS FOR YOU TO LEAVE HERE AND THINK ABOUT YOURSELVES. THIS BOARD AND WHAT YOU REPRESENT. FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME. AND I DESERVE. AND THESE PEOPLE DESERVE TO HAVE WHAT WAS ALREADY IN THE WORKS. I WAS SO HAPPY. AND NOW HERE WE GO. I'M SORRY, BUT PLEASE, NEXT TIME A LOVED ONE GETS ANYWHERE NEAR A LADDER, THINK OF ME. BECAUSE NOW I SPEAK AT COLLEGES. I SPEAK ALL OVER TO STUDENTS EVERYWHERE BECAUSE MY MESSAGE IS IF I SAVE ONE PERSON'S LIFE, THAT IS MY MISSION. SO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME. AND PLEASE, WE DON'T HAVE YOU DON'T HAVE TO SUBMIT THAT REFERENDUM. YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE NOT IT'S NOT IT'S NOT UP TO US THAT WELL, I KNOW WHO IT'S UP TO. THANK YOU. NOW, SPEAKER. THANK YOU. ONE MORE. FRANCINE. SORRY, I DID HAVE A CHANCE TO SIGN IT. DID YOU REALLY WANT TO FOLLOW THAT, THOUGH? I KNOW. I DO HATE TO, AND I CONSIDERED WAITING TILL THE NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS ON OCTOBER 20TH, BECAUSE MY, MY, MY TOPIC IS ABOUT A COMMUNITY CENTER, BUT IT'S NOT ABOUT THE SENIOR OR THE YOUTH CENTER. IT'S NOT THE COMMUNITY CENTER THAT YOU ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT. THE CENTER THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS ONE THAT'S VERY NEAR AND DEAR TO ME. MY NAME IS FRANCINE GUYER. I AM ON THE BOARD AT THE FRIENDS OF THE LAKE ERIE SEAWAY TRAIL CENTER, AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THESE OF YOU LONG TIME HAMBURG RESIDENTS ARE AWARE OF WHERE THE CENTER IS, BECAUSE IT IS KIND OF A LITTLE WHAT I LIKE TO CALL A HIDDEN GEM IN OUR TOWN, BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF, I DON'T WANT TO SAY IGNORED, BUT IN SOME WAYS IT IS A LITTLE BIT IGNORED. THE LAKE ERIE SEAWAY TRAIL CENTER HAS LONG BEEN A WELCOMING GATEWAY AND A VISITOR CENTER TO THE TRAVELERS. LOCAL TOWN RESIDENTS, AND ALL PASSERSBY ALONG THE GREAT LAKES SEAWAY TRAIL, WHICH FOR MANY OF YOU THAT MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW, IS A NEW YORK STATE NATIONAL DESIGNATED SCENIC BYWAY. THAT'S A PRETTY IT TAKES AN ACT OF CONGRESS, AND I MEAN THAT TO GET DESIGNATED AS A NEW YORK STATE NATIONAL DESIGNATED SCENIC BYWAY. SO WE AT THE CENTER, WE ARE THE FRIENDS OF THE SEAWAY TRAIL CENTER, AND IT'S OWNED BY THE TOWN. AND WE THE TOWN TAKES VERY GOOD CARE OF US. THANK YOU, MR. HUGHES, FOR RECENTLY PUTTING A NEW PATIO ON OUR. REPLACING OUR DECK AND YOUR TEAM AND THE TOWN. OBVIOUSLY, HE WORKS FOR THE TOWN, SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND WE RECENTLY, FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW, HAVE BEEN ENTITLED AS BY THE NATIONAL WILDLIFE FOUNDATION, AS A WILDLIFE REFUGE, BECAUSE WE HAVE A POLLINATOR GARDEN THAT TAKES CARE OF LOCAL [02:10:06] SPECIES AND IT IS FRIENDLY TO BEES AND OTHER POLLINATORS AND OTHER JUST LOCAL ANIMALS. AND THE LAKE WE'RE ON LAKE ERIE. WE'RE IN THE OLD WANAKA WATERWORKS BUILDING. WE'RE ALSO ON THE NEW YORK STATE BIRDING TRAIL. WE APPLIED FOR THAT AND THAT WAS AN APPLICATION PROCESS AS WELL. SO WE'RE PRETTY FREAKING AMAZING IN THIS TOWN, BUT OFTEN IGNORED. SO MOST RECENTLY WE ARE AS WE LOOK TO THE FUTURE OF THE TOWN. SO KIND OF RELEVANT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMMUNITY CENTERS, BECAUSE THIS INDEED IS A COMMUNITY CENTER THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR MANY YEARS, AND IT'S IN A LAKE, PERFECT LOCATION. IT'S ON LAKE ERIE. SO ANYWAYS, I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT IT. AS WE LOOK TO THE FUTURE, WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO CONTINUE OUR CLEANUP EFFORTS AND TO BEAUTIFY THE CENTER, INCLUDING EXPLORING THE POSSIBILITY OF A COMMUNITY MURAL TO BRING NEW LIFE AND COLOR TO THE HISTORICAL WANAKA WATERWORKS HISTORICAL BUILDING. AS MANY OF YOU MAY ALREADY KNOW, ESPECIALLY THOSE OF YOU BEFORE ME. SO DON'T ASK ME TO PAINT. PLEASE. AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, WE HAVE RECENTLY PARTNERED WITH AN ARTIST AND AND A CONSULTANT NAMED AS SARAH SIDDIQUIE. SHE'S A LEAD COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EXPERT, AND SHE RECENTLY DID AN AMAZING MURAL DOWN IN THE CITY OF BUFFALO. YOU MAY HAVE SEEN IT IN THE NEWS, AND WE WANT TO INVOLVE THE COMMUNITY WITH THIS AND THE REASON WHY THIS IS A TIMELY TOPIC IS BECAUSE WE NEED THE TOWN'S ASSISTANCE TO PROMOTE THE INITIATIVE. WE'RE ASKING YOU TO PLEASE POST OUR SURVEY. WE PUT A SURVEY OUT. WE'VE ONLY GOTTEN TEN RESPONSES TO THE SURVEY, BUT THE SURVEY ASKS THE TOWN RESIDENTS BECAUSE YOU OWN THE BUILDING. IT'S OUR BUILDING. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SEE AT THE CENTER? WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? WHAT ARE YOU WHAT DO YOU WANT THERE? COMMUNITY CENTER. SO WE WANT TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY. WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU WANT THERE. WE WANT A MURAL ON THE WALL WHERE YOU'VE SEEN IN MANY CITIES, INCLUDING OUR OWN, THAT MURALS SEEM TO BE POPPING UP EVERYWHERE. AND WHILE I WAS WAITING IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY FOR THE PUBLIC SPEAKING PART AND LISTENING TO ALL OF THIS, I ACTUALLY CAME UPON A POST ON FACEBOOK OF A NEW MURAL THAT WENT OUT IN THE VILLAGE. OKAY, IT'S THE GUY FROM THE MOVIE. I THINK IT'S BIG LEBOWSKI, ISN'T IT? YEAH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, MISS CUMBERFORD. SO THESE MURALS ARE POPPING UP EVERYWHERE, AND WE THINK THAT THIS IS A PERFECT PLACE FOR ONE. BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DICTATE WHAT GOES ON THE MURAL. WE WANT TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY. SO PLEASE, WE'RE HAVING AN OPEN HOUSE ON NOVEMBER 6TH. IT'S FROM 4 TO 7. IT'S AN OPEN HOUSE. WE'LL COME WHEN YOU WANT BETWEEN THOSE HOURS AND COME AND BE HEARD. WE'LL HAVE ALL KINDS OF ACTIVITIES GOING ON FOR KIDS AND ADULTS ALIKE TO KIND OF JUST EXPLORE WHAT YOU WANT, WHAT KIND OF THEMES WE'RE SEEING, AND ACTIVITIES FOR ALL AGES. SO I'M JUST ASKING FOR ALL THE SUPPORT OF ALL THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS YOU, AS YOU HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SUPPORTIVE TO CONTINUE THAT SUPPORT AND TO PLEASE PUT THE SURVEY ON THE HAMBURG TOWN WEBSITE, BECAUSE WE THINK THAT THAT MIGHT GET MORE RESPONSE. THANK YOU. EVERYBODY. CAN'T PUT IT, CAN'T PUT A SUNSET THERE BECAUSE YOU ALREADY GOT THE BEAUTIFUL SUNSETS OVER THERE. THAT'S WHAT MAKES OUR TOWN GREAT. FRANCINE, I THINK YOU'RE MISSING. THANK YOU EVERYBODY. FRANCINE, I BELIEVE YOU'RE MISSING A KEY POINT, THOUGH. THIS ISN'T YOUR FIRST ENDEAVOR IN THE ARTS. WITH. THAT'S ON OUR. YOU HAVE RED FISH THERE, RED FISH IS THERE. AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE THE BEAUTIFICATION. AND AND I KNOW YOU'VE SEEN THE BREAKWALL THERE. IT'S HUGE. SO THIS IS JUST A SMALL PIECE OF IT THAT WE CAN AFFORD. THE FUNDING WILL COME FROM CORPORATE SPONSORSHIPS LIKE WE DID RED FISH AS WELL AS GRANT APPLICATIONS, WHICH AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING INTO THE GRANT APPLICATION. THERE ARE GRANTS OUT THERE. ARTS, OUR FOCUS IN THIS CITY, THERE IS ALL KIND OF MONEY THAT SUPPORTS ARTS. AND WE KNOW THAT IT'S JUST A MATTER OF CLICKING THAT WE WILL GET FUNDED TO DO THIS MURAL. CAN YOU PLEASE GIVE A COPY OF THE SURVEY TO JILL GORMAN KANE TO PUT UP AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER? I WILL THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO I BELIEVE THAT DOES CONCLUDE OUR LIST OF SPEAKERS. PUBLIC SPEAKING. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. REPORTS FROM DEPARTMENTS START WITH FINANCE. DO THESE TWO HIGH SCHOOL SENIORS DO YOU WANT TO LEAVE AND SIGN OUT OF THE BACK? ALL YOUR OTHER COLLEAGUES DID. YEAH, THEY LEFT A LONG TIME AGO. YOU POOR GIRLS IN THE SECOND ROW HAD NO IDEA THEY LEFT A LONG TIME AGO. THEY DIDN'T TELL THEM, YOU KNOW, THE OFFICER OR CHIEF? THE CHIEF IS BACK THERE. THERE? YEAH. HE BAILED THE REST OF THEM OUT. SORRY. I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE TIME. I KNOW HOW [Additional Item 2 ] [02:15:02] EARLY HIGH SCHOOL STARTS. FINANCE. I'VE NOT SPECIFIC TO REPORT, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT QUESTION IS. YOU. THE QUESTION WAS, I BELIEVE, ABOUT THAT. YOU HAD BEEN REQUESTED OR INFORMATION HAD BEEN REQUESTED FROM YOU ABOUT THE BUDGET LINES THAT WERE USED FOR THE NEWSLETTER AS NEWSLETTERS IN THE PAST, ETC. AND I BELIEVE YOU RESPONDED TO THAT INQUIRY. SO COUNCIL MEMBER KELSEY DID ASK ABOUT THE NEWSLETTER, AND I JUST REPLIED THAT WE TYPICALLY DO DO NEWSLETTERS. THIS WAS BASICALLY CHARGED IN THE SAME MANNER AS ALL THE OTHER NEWSLETTERS ARE. IT WAS SPLIT ACROSS DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, I THINK BECAUSE OF THE COST OF IT, BUT THERE WAS NOTHING OUT OF THE NORM AS FAR AS THE NEWSLETTER WOULD GO. I WASN'T AWARE OF CONTENT. I TYPICALLY DON'T GET INVOLVED IN CONTENT, BUT AS FAR AS PROCESS AND FUNDING, IT STILL DOES NEWSLETTERS ALL THE TIME. SO WE PRETTY MUCH FOLLOW THE EXACT SAME PROCESS WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST. AND THIS WAS WITH AN ORGANIZATION CALLED LEGACY PRO, WHICH HAS BEEN AROUND FOR SEVERAL YEARS. IT ISN'T ANYTHING BRAND NEW, BUT LEGACY PROJECTS DO ANYTHING TO FUND THIS ONE. SO THEY BUT THEY WROTE THE NEWSLETTER. OKAY. I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT. WHEN COUNCIL MEMBER ROGALSKI ASKED THAT. WE JUST DO. I KNOW ABOUT THE NEWSLETTER. I DIDN'T KNOW THE CONTENT OR THE NEWSLETTER, BUT JILL DOES REGULARLY DO NEWSLETTER. SO I GUESS MY MY SITUATION IS OUR NAMES ARE ON IT. AND I TALKED TO MY COLLEAGUE MISS COMERFORD, AND I TALKED ABOUT IT. AND THEY'RE ROUTINELY SMALL AMOUNTS OF MONEY, LIKE SOMEONE 50 BUCKS TO GO TO A CONFERENCE FOR A DAY. AND AND WE ARE TOWN BOARD MEMBERS. OUR NAMES ARE ON THE LETTERHEAD. WE WERE NOT CONSULTED WITH IT. IT'S JUST TO ME, IT WOULD THINK IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT SOMETHING OUT ON OFFICIAL TOWN LETTERHEAD, NUMBER ONE, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY THE BOARD. AND MR. FARRELL SAID HE VETTED WITH OUTSIDE COUNSEL. WELL, THAT'S EXACTLY WHY I PUT FORTH MY RESOLUTION. WHY NOT THE BOARD? YOU KNOW, WHY DIDN'T YOU BRING THAT TO TO OUR ATTENTION? WHY? I MEAN, YOU DON'T WORK FOR LIPSIUS, MATHIAS. YOU WORK FOR THE BOARD, RIGHT, MR. FERRO? SO THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN BEFORE THE BOARD. AND THAT'S MY OPINION, BECAUSE WE HAVE A FIDUCIARY DUTY WE GO TO, WE DON'T JUST SPEND MONEY JUST TO SPEND MONEY. OKAY. MR. HUGHES, DO YOU HAVE ANY REPORTS? NO. I THINK YOU THINK WHAT I SAID WAS FUNNY BECAUSE YOU'RE LAUGHING, MR. FERRO. I'M JUST HAPPY TO BE HERE. JUST HAPPY TO BE HERE. IT WAS BETWEEN ME. WE ALL ARE. I'M IRISH BY BLOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU. I KNOW IT'S A LONG NIGHT, BUT. REPORT OF THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT. WE'RE IN BRUSH BRUSH ZONE ONE THIS WEEK. IT'S THE LAST WEEK OF THE YEAR THAT WILL BE PICKING UP BRUSH IN ZONE ONE. SO JUST JUST TO MAKE THAT PUBLIC RECORD. ALSO, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF CHANGING OVER FROM SUMMER TO WINTER. SO WE'RE GETTING ALL THE PLOWS READY AND WE GOT A FEW SURPRISES COMING. WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING THE COMPUTER SYSTEM IN. AND SO TURN BY TURN SYSTEM. SO WE'RE WORKING ALONG WITH THE STATE TO GET THAT UP AND RUNNING. ALSO, WE'LL BE PICKING UP LEAVES BROWN BAGS ONLY PLEASE. ALSO TO WE PUT OUT THERE ABOUT THE SLOW SLOW SLOWDOWN SIGNS. IT'D BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR SIGNS IT TOOK THAT TOOK OFF. I PUT IT ON THE ON FACEBOOK AND IT TOOK OFF. SO WE HAVE ABOUT 30 REQUESTS FOR SIGNS. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THAT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS HOPEFULLY. ALSO TOO. WE HAVE A BURN BAN IN PLACE RIGHT NOW UNTIL OCTOBER 15TH. AND ALSO THE LAST WEEK OR THE THIRD WEEK IN OCTOBER. OCTOBER 20TH IS THE LARGE LAST TRASH PICKUP FOR THE YEAR. SO AGAIN, WHAT WE'VE DONE FOR THE YEAR BEING I WANT TO THANK BAG GUY EMPLOYEES. THEY HUNG A TV OUT AT THE TAYLOR ROAD FACILITY. SO SO WE RENTED OUT. AT LEAST THEY COULD BE WATCHING TV AND STUFF. AND ALSO, IT'S NICE THAT WE HAVE INTERNET OUT THERE NOW. SO WE WENT LIVE WITH THE CAMERA SO WE CAN ACTUALLY WATCH THE FACILITY AT ALL TIMES. SO THAT'S A THAT'S A PLUS FOR US. THE GOLF COURSE, THE GOLF COURSE WILL BE CLOSED OCTOBER 14TH AND 15TH OR I'M SORRY, ONLY NINE HOLES ON THE 14TH. THE FRONT NINE WILL BE CLOSED. AND THEN OCTOBER 15TH THE BACK NINE WILL BE CLOSED FOR IRRIGATION AND THEN THE 16TH FOR ANY ANY ISSUES COMING UP. ALSO THE QUIET ZONE MARKERS IN THE ROADS, WE HAVE SOME COMPLAINTS ABOUT THEM. SO WE'LL BE GOING OUT THIS WEEK LOOKING IN THEM ALSO. AND THAT'S IT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. DO YOU GUYS CHECK THE BIG GARBAGE BEFORE YOU PUT IT AWAY? BECAUSE MY WIFE MIGHT TOSS ME IN THE. ANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS WANT TO SPEAK I'VE. YES. JUST WANT TO REPORT WE'VE TAX COLLECTION IS GOING VERY WELL. WE'RE UP OVER 17% COLLECTED ALREADY. KEEP IN [02:20:03] MIND THAT OCTOBER 15TH IS THE LAST DAY TO PAY WITHOUT PENALTY. ALSO, IF IF ANY YOUNG ONES IN YOUR FAMILY, CHILDREN, GRANDCHILDREN WANT TO TAKE PART IN THE COLORING CONTEST, THERE ARE ENTRY FORMS IN OUR OFFICE AND AROUND TOWN HALL. ALSO WANTED TO RECOGNIZE THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE DAY COMING UP AND WISH EVERYONE A HAPPY INDIGENOUS PEOPLE. PEOPLES DAY. AND ALSO TODAY IS NATIONAL COACHES DAY IS A LONG TIME YOUTH SPORTS COACH. I JUST WANTED TO THANK ALL THOSE THAT SPEND THEIR TIME AND GIVE THEIR THEIR TALENTS AND EFFORT TO COACHING OUR YOUNG PEOPLE AND AND OUR COMMUNITY. SO IF YOU'RE A COACH OUT THERE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR FOR DEVOTING YOUR TIME AND YOUR EFFORT. THANK YOU MATT. JUST AN UPDATE ON THE TRAFFIC SAFETY BOARD THIS WEEK. THE CROSSWALK ON LAKE AVE NEAR OMC IS SCHEDULED TO GET RESTRIPED, SO JUST BE AWARE OF THAT. WE DID CHANGE THE TIMING ON THE INTERSECTION OF HOWARD AND SOUTHWESTERN. WE DID ADD ROUGHLY ABOUT 10S TO THAT, SO HOPEFULLY THE CARS CAN GET OFF OF OFF OF HOWARD ROAD ON THE SOUTHWESTERN A LITTLE BIT QUICKER. THANK YOU FOR THAT. NO PROBLEM. AND THEN I WILL BE FILING THE PAPERWORK WITH THE DOT THIS WEEK FOR THE CAMP ROAD CORRIDOR AND THE INTERSECTION. WE'RE WORKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW. HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THAT ACCOMPLISHED IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. WE HAD A LITTLE HICCUP WITH SOME OF THE CROSSWALKS, BUT WE'RE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY ON THAT. AND OUR NEXT TRAFFIC SAFETY MEETING IS THIS THURSDAY, 7 P.M. AT TOWN HALL. THAT'S IT. YEAH. THANKS FOR THAT. THAT CORRIDOR THING ALSO BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET A LIGHT AT CAMP ROAD AND HOWARD FOR YEARS. AND THE STATE KEEPS TURNING US DOWN. AND BECAUSE OF THEY SAY IT'S BECAUSE IT DOESN'T WARRANT THE TRAFFIC. BUT ANYBODY THAT LIVES THERE KNOWS PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE. THEY GO ALL THE WAY AROUND IF THEY HAVE TO MAKE A LEFT HAND TURN TO SOUTHWESTERN SO THEY CAN GET OUT BY THE LIGHT BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY DURING RUSH HOUR. BUT THANKS. YEAH. THANKS, MATT. WE GET A LOT OF CITIZEN CONCERNS ABOUT THAT. SO THANK YOU. YEAH WE'RE WORKING ON IT. THANK YOU. HOPEFULLY GET ACCOMPLISHED. THANK YOU. THAT THAT SITUATION ALONG CAMP ROAD GOES BACK QUITE A FEW YEARS. I REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME THAT WE PETITIONED DOT WAS WHEN MR. SHAW WAS THE SUPERVISOR. AND, YOU KNOW, WE ASKED THEM TO LOOK INTO IT AND IT WAS UNFORTUNATE THAT NOTHING WAS DONE. AND I KNOW WE'VE COME BACK A NUMBER OF TIMES SINCE, AND YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN VERY RECEPTIVE WHEN AS THIS TIME WHEN I ASKED US TO ONCE AGAIN PETITION THE STATE, ESPECIALLY WITH ADDITIONAL CHANGES THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THAT CORRIDOR WITH THE INTRODUCTION OF FEEDMORE AND AND OTHER BUSINESSES, ETC. SO THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP FOR WITH THE INTERSECTION, I APPRECIATE IT. THANKS. ANYTHING ELSE? THANKS, MATT. OKAY. NO, JOEL, CAN I JUST SAY SOMETHING? JUST I WASN'T ON THE LIST, BUT I WOULD, AND I'LL BE SHORT AND I'LL BE BRIEF. CAN I DO THAT? GO AHEAD. IS OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU GOTTA BE BRIEF, THOUGH. YOU HAVE TO BE BRIEF. I WILL, I'LL BE VERY, VERY QUICK. VERY QUICK. MY NAME IS DON STRADA AND I LIVE ON LEE LANE IN THE HOA IN HAMBURG. I GREW UP IN HAMBURG AND MY ORIGINAL EXPERIENCE WITH A COMMUNITY CENTER WAS THE ONE THAT'S ON PROSPECT, THE LITTLE RED. IT WAS FABULOUS. COULD GO THERE. I MEAN, THERE WAS NO CAR. YOU JUST WENT OUT AS KIDS AND YOU JUST HUNG OUT. THE COMMUNITY CENTER IS VITAL. VITAL THAT IT BE AT THE NIKE BASE. I'M SO DISAPPOINTED THAT MR. COLLINS IS NOT HERE. AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASK, IS HE GOING TO SEE AND HEAR WHAT WENT ON HERE TONIGHT IF HE WANTS SO HE CAN WATCH IT BEING STREAMED? SO IT OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S A GOOD THING. THIS IS MY FIRST TOWN MEETING. I GREW UP IN HAMBURG. I MOVED IN WEST SENECA, ORCHARD PARK. THEN SIX YEARS AGO, MY HUSBAND AND WE DECIDED WE WANTED TO DOWNSIZE. AND I KNEW I WAS COMING HOME. I KNEW I WAS COMING BACK TO HAMBURG AND THIS WILL NOT BE MY LAST TOWN MEETING. IT WAS A REAL EXPERIENCE. AND YOU CAN SAY ANYTHING YOU WANT. YOU CAN DISAGREE. OR YOU CAN AGREE. BUT ONE THING THAT SHOULD NOT EVER SHOW UP IN A MEETING, ESPECIALLY ON THE BOARD, IS BEING RUDE. AND I'M ADDRESSING YOU, MR. BIEGALSKI. WHEN YOU PUT YOUR FINGER UP AND YOU HALTED MR. KOZUB AND SAID, I'M SPEAKING RIGHT NOW, AND WHEN I'M DONE, YOU CAN SPEAK. THAT'S RUDE, HE INTERRUPTED ME. DISRESPECTFUL? IT'S DISRESPECTFUL TO POINT YOUR [02:25:05] FINGER IN SOMEONE'S FACE. YOU'VE NEVER INTERRUPTED ANYONE. I'M SURE YOU HAVE. I'M SURE YOU HAVE. YOU DID. NOT LONG AFTER YOU SAY THAT, MR. KOZUB INTERRUPTED YOU. I HEARD HIS COMMENT. THAT YOU THOUGHT. HE SAID UNDER HIS BREATH. OH, I THINK I SAID IT LOUD ENOUGH SO EVERYONE COULD HEAR ME. YEAH, I HEARD IT, SO I DON'T THINK IT WAS UNDER HIS BREATH. BUT THERE IS NO PLACE FOR RUDENESS WHEN YOU HOLD A POSITION LIKE THIS. AMEN. THAT'S ALL. AND LOOK LIKE YOU'RE INTERESTED WHEN PEOPLE ARE TALKING. MY MOM AND DAD TAUGHT ME TO GIVE EYE CONTACT, NOT LOOK DOWN LIKE YOU GOT SOMETHING ELSE GOING ON IN YOUR BRAIN. THIS WILL NOT BE MY LAST MEETING. AND IF ANYBODY IS RUDE, I'M GOING TO CALL YOU OUT. SHOULD NOT HAPPEN, SIR. SHOULD NOT? YOU DON'T HAVE TO STICK YOUR FINGER UP IN ANYBODY'S FACE. THAT'S EMBARRASSING. HOW WOULD YOU FEEL? THAT'S EMBARRASSING. YOU DON'T. YOU DON'T DO THINGS TO EMBARRASS PEOPLE. YOU DO THINGS TO BRING THEM TOGETHER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK, I APPRECIATE. JILL. SO I TOUCHED UPON THE GOLF COURSE. I JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THIS IS THE SEASON WHEN IT'LL KIND OF BE HIT OR MISS. WHEN WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE, IT'LL BE WEATHER DEPENDENT. USUALLY WE SAY OCTOBER 31ST. IF WE HAVE A NICE BEGINNING OF NOVEMBER, THOUGH, WE MIGHT STAY OPEN. THE OTHER THING IS THE ICE RINK HAS OPENED. OUR PROGRAMING HAS STARTED AS OF OCTOBER 1ST. PUBLIC SKATE, SKATE AND SHOOT AND SUCH. SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT AND WE ALSO ARE VERY EXCITED. AGAIN, WE HAVE A COUPLE SQUARES LEFT, EVERYBODY FOR PAINTING. IF ANYBODY WANTS TO PAINT, THERE ARE SOME ACTUALLY YOU SHOULD. AND IF YOU EVEN IF YOU DON'T PAINT, YOU SHOULD COME AND SEE BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING IT ARE ABSOLUTELY PHENOMENAL. THEY'RE FANTASTIC. AND OCTOBER 31ST WE WILL HAVE OUR GHOULISH GALA DURING THE DAY AND THEN THE PAINTINGS WILL BE VOTED ON. SO PLEASE COME. AND AGAIN, WE HAVE A COUPLE SQUARES. ANYBODY'S WELCOME. THANKS. THANK YOU. I THINK MR. KOZUB WANTS ONE OF THEM. FINGER PAINTING IS ALLOWED. OH, YOU MUST HAVE SEEN SOME OF MY ARTWORK. STICKMEN AND. JUST ONE QUICK UPDATE FROM ENGINEERING. I WANTED TO UPDATE ON THE CLARK AND MCKINLEY PROJECT. THAT PROJECT IS 99% COMPLETE. THE PEDESTRIAN SIGNALS ARE FUNCTIONING AT THE INTERSECTION. THE RFP IS FUNCTIONING AT THE CROSSWALK AT MARK. THERE IS ONLY A COUPLE LITTLE PIECES. WE HAD TO REPLACE A FENCE AND WE HAVE WE'RE WAITING FOR THE EXTENDERS, FOR THE SIGNALS THAT KIND OF MAKE THEM COME OUT A LITTLE FARTHER SO THEY'RE EASIER TO REACH AND A LITTLE BIT OF CLEANUP. SO THAT PROJECT IS JUST ABOUT READY TO SLIDE INTO HOME. SO I JUST WANTED EVERYONE TO KNOW AND I WANTED THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THOSE SIGNALS ARE FUNCTIONING. YOU CAN USE THEM. THE RAMP, SIDEWALKS, CROSSWALKS AND EVERYTHING ARE IN PLACE AND SAFE TO USE. WHAT ARE THEY DOING? I'M SORRY, WERE THEY DOING A CROSSWALK FURTHER DOWN AT MARK? MARK AND THAT IS DONE AND ACTIVE TURNED ON AND PEOPLE CAN USE IT NOW. YES. THANK YOU. I WAS STILL WRAPPED UP IN CLARK AND MCKINLEY WITH THOSE ARROWS THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT ANYMORE. THAT PLANNING DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE PLANNING BOARD MEETING ON OCTOBER 15TH AND THEN AGAIN ON NOVEMBER 5TH. WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING HERE AT THE TOWN BOARD ON OCTOBER 20TH FOR THE TOWN'S OR THE LOCAL WATERFRONT REVITALIZATION PROGRAM. THINK OF IT LIKE THE MASTER PLAN FOR THE WATERFRONT. SO THAT'S AVAILABLE ON THE TOWN WEBSITE, AND THEN I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT. AND THEN, AS I SAID, ON OCTOBER 20TH AT 5:00, WE'LL HAVE A PRESENTATION OUT IN THE FOYER FOR ALL THE ZONING THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON, CONTINUE TO ASK GOOD QUESTIONS. PLEASE DO NOT TAKE WHAT YOU GET OFF OF FACEBOOK. I'D RATHER YOU ASK ME FIRST BEFORE YOU TAKE ANYTHING OFF OF FACEBOOK, BUT I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO ZONING. LIKE I SAID, IT'S A DIFFICULT ISSUE. AND THEN THAT'S THAT. THANKS. THANK YOU. JOSH. GARBAGE. BOB. GB. GBS IN THE HOUSE. IT WAS IT. YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND FIRST I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE TOWN BOARD FOR ALL YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION FOR ALL THE RESOLUTIONS WE'VE DONE FOR OVER HOW MANY SINCE BIRTH, BUT NO, FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I HAD A GREAT MEETING TODAY. AN INFORMATIONAL MEETING. I HAD A GOOD CROWD, A LOT OF QUESTIONS, MOST OF IT POSITIVE, 90% POSITIVE. I HAD A COUPLE, YOU KNOW, QUESTIONNAIRES. BUT PEOPLE, BECAUSE OF THE PAYMENT PLANS AND ALL THIS OTHER THINGS. [02:30:01] BUT NOW THAT THIS LAST PROCESS IS GOING, I'M HOPING OUR, OUR COUNCIL WILL BE ABLE TO GET THE SIGNATURES I NEED ON THAT DOCUMENT. SO I KNOW THE SUPERVISOR'S READY TO SIGN. I HOPE THE CEO FROM MODERNISM. PARDON ME. FINAL. THANK YOU. YEAH, BUT IT WAS A GREAT SUCCESS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL THE RESIDENTS AND EVERYONE ELSE KNOWS THIS IS AN ACTUAL OUT OF POCKET SAVINGS. IT'S A TAXPAYER LINE, WHICH IS TRUE, BUT THE DOLLARS ARE GOING TO SAVE. IT'S RANGING FROM 300 TO $400 PER RESIDENT AND SOME ARE PAYING, I THINK. MISTER, YOU STILL HERE? HE PAYS $800 A YEAR. I PAY FOR 80. WHY? SO THAT'S WHY IT WAS AN OPEN GOVERNMENT. SO LOOK, NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH WITH THIS. I HAVE A POINT DATE THAT I WAS ALLOWED TO SAY APRIL 1ST OF 2026 IS OUR POINT DATE. HOPEFULLY SOONER. THAT WILL BE UP TO MODERN, BUT WE'LL SEE. BUT AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK THE BOARD FOR ALL THE TIME THAT YOU TOOK IN AND STUDYING THE RESOLUTIONS. AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE YOU'RE AN ASSET TO THIS TOWN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU BOB. THANKS, BOB. GREAT JOB. THANK YOU FOR FOR THE COMMUNITY. [Additional Item 3] BRILLIANT. EVERYBODY YOU KNOW OKAY. REPORTS FROM THE BOARD. ANYBODY ELSE? BUKOWSKI. VERY BRIEFLY. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL THE PEOPLE THAT CAME OUT AND EXPRESSED THEIR VIEWPOINTS. IT IS NOT UP TO US ABOUT A REFERENDUM THAT'S NOT THE BOARD VOTED IN FAVOR OF A COMMUNITY CENTER ALREADY. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT EXPRESSED THEIR VIEWPOINTS, INCLUDING THOSE PEOPLE WHO CRITICIZED ME, BECAUSE AS I'VE SAID MANY TIMES, AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, VOLTAIRE SAID, I MAY DISAGREE WITH WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY, BUT I'LL FIGHT TO THE DEATH TO PROTECT YOUR RIGHT TO SAY IT. SO THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN KOZA. YEAH, I JUST WANT TO. I DON'T THINK THIS. PROJECT HERE WITH THE SENIOR CENTER HAS ANY EFFECT ON THIS YEAR'S BUDGET ANYWAYS, BUT, YEAH, A LOT WAS SAID TODAY. I MEAN, SOME VERY EMOTIONAL STUFF AND THAT. AND I THINK THE ALMOST THE ENTIRE BOARD AGREES WITH THE SENIOR CENTER SHOULD BE THERE AND, AND FIGHTING TO HAVE IT. IF THE REFERENDUM GOES THROUGH, THEN WE ALL NEED TO GO OUT THERE AND PUSH PEOPLE TO VOTE TO SAVE IT. LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT JUST A COMMUNITY SENIOR CENTER. IT'S IT'S A WARMING CENTER. IT'S AN EMERGENCY SHELTER, YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S THERE'S OTHER USES. YOU KNOW, I TAKE MY GRANDSON GOLFING OVER IN IRONWOOD FOR HIS GOLF LESSONS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. THE LITTLE TOWN OF WALES I ALWAYS SEE IN THE COMMUNITY CENTER RIGHT DOWN THERE. AND, YOU KNOW, ON 28. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S SMALL, BUT IT FITS THEIR PURPOSES. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY, HAPPY 250TH BIRTHDAY TO THE US NAVY ON THE 13TH. OKAY, COUNCILWOMAN COMERFORD WASN'T SURE WHO YOU WERE GOING WITH IN THAT ONE. OH, WELL, I WAS JUST HAPPY TO PLAY A SMALL PART OF IT. I WAS LIKE, WHO IS SHE PICKING? OKAY, SO A COUPLE OF THINGS. I NUMBER ONE, ONE OF THE THINGS I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE SO MUCH WHEN I SEE THIS PLACE OVER FILLING, WHEN I SEE PEOPLE USING THE TVS OUTSIDE AND WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SEATS TO FILL IT, IT TAKES ME BACK TO MY COMMUNITY ACTIVISM DAYS, WHEN WE WERE HAVING THE FIRE MARSHAL SHUT DOWN PUBLIC HEARINGS, SO I LOVE THAT. NOTHING MAKES ME HAPPIER, AND NOTHING MAKES ME HAPPIER THAN TO SEE PEOPLE OF ALL AGES AND ALL PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY COMING TOGETHER TO SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER AND HEAR DIALOG AND HEAR ONE ANOTHER OUT. AND WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE TO AGREE, BUT DIALOG IS WHAT MAKES US A STRONGER COMMUNITY. A COUPLE OF THINGS. JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER THE KIDS ALL HAVE OFF OF SCHOOL ON MONDAY FOR INDIGENOUS PEOPLES DAY, SO JUST WATCH OUT. IT'S IF IT'S 80 DEGREE WEATHER, THEY'RE GOING TO BE OUTSIDE PLAYING. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING, RIDING THEIR BICYCLES AND HAVING ALL THE FUN IN THE WORLD. SO PLEASE BE MINDFUL OF THAT. BREAST CANCER AWARENESS MONTH IS THIS MONTH. SO IF YOU HAVEN'T GONE AND GOTTEN YOUR YEARLY MAMMOGRAM, PLEASE PUT YOURSELF FIRST. I KNOW IT'S EASY AS MOTHERS AND CAREGIVERS TO PUT OURSELVES LAST, BUT IF YOU DON'T PUT YOURSELF FIRST ONCE IN A WHILE, WHO'S GOING TO BE THERE TO TAKE CARE OF THEM LATER? SO PLEASE GO GET YOUR BREAST EXAMS. THAT BEING SAID, THERE IS THE MAKING STRIDES AGAINST BREAST CANCER WALK ON OCTOBER 18TH DOWN AT THE OUTER HARBOR. IT'S AT TERMINAL B. IT'S USUALLY AN ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL DAY. I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY MANAGE TO GET IT. THEY ALWAYS GET GREAT WEATHER, BUT CONSIDER GOING DOWN AND AT LEAST HAVING THAT CONVERSATION WITH YOUR LOVED ONES. A COUPLE OTHER THINGS. THE HAMBURG LIBRARY IS ALWAYS FILLING OUR COMMUNITY BUCKET WITH SO MANY FUN, GREAT FREE EVENTS FOR OUR COMMUNITY. THERE IS A PSYCHIC MEDIUM DAY, BUT THEY'RE RECOMMENDING 13 AND OVER, SO DON'T GO TAKING YOUR LITTLE ONES. BUT THAT IS AT THE [02:35:05] HAMBURG LIBRARY ON OCTOBER 16TH. THERE IS ALSO A HALLOWEEN PARTY ON OCTOBER 20TH FROM 530 TO 7 AT THE HAMBURG LIBRARY. AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE A LEGO ENTHUSIAST IN YOUR HOUSE AND YOU JUST CAN'T GET ENOUGH LEGOS, YOU ARE LIKE, BOY, IF THEY COULD JUST HAVE MORE, YOU CAN CHECK OUT A BOX OF THE HAMBURG LIBRARY. THEY CAN BUILD IT. AND HERE'S THE BEST PART. THEY TAKE IT BACK TO THE LIBRARY AND PUT IT ON DISPLAY SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO STEP ON IT LATER, BUT THAT'S ALL. AT THE HAMBURG LIBRARY. THE LAKESHORE LIBRARY HAS THE BOO BASH ON OCTOBER 25TH, WHICH IS AN ALL DAY EVENT, AND IT IS A GREAT FOLLOW UP TO OUR TRUNK OR TREAT THAT IS ON THE 24TH OF OCTOBER. SO WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID, I JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO DON'T LOSE HOPE. HAMBURG IS FILLED WITH GREAT PEOPLE WITH GREAT IDEAS, AND IF WE KEEP LEVEL HEADS ABOUT US AND KEEP WALKING THE PATH WE NEED TO WALK, WE'LL GET TO THE FINISH LINE. IT JUST MAY TAKE US A LITTLE LONGER. CAN I ADD ON TO YOUR. I DON'T THINK MEN GET THE MEN ALSO GET BREAST CANCER. SO NOT THAT WE GET MAMMOGRAMS AND MAYBE WE DO, I DON'T KNOW, BUT JUST BE CAREFUL. I FEEL LIKE YOU'D REMEMBER IT. IT'S A PRETTY MEMORABLE EXPERIENCE. I HAD A GREAT UNCLE THAT HAD BREAST CANCER. I TOO HAD AN UNCLE HAD BREAST CANCER AND A FELLOW EMPLOYEE ARE. YES. I WON'T REPEAT FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, BUT THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING ABOUT BREAST CANCER AWARENESS. ACTUALLY, OCTOBER IS CHOCK FULL OF MANY DIFFERENT INITIATIVES AND AWARENESS THEMED MONTHS MONTHLY ACTIVITIES. WE'VE GOT RED RIBBON WEEK LATER THIS MONTH. WE HAVE SOME BULLYING PREVENTION AND OTHER ACTIVITIES IN OUR SCHOOLS DURING THE MONTH. SO YES, OCTOBER IS A TIME FOR US TO COME TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY ABOUT A LOT OF VERY IMPORTANT TOPICS, AND TO JUST REMEMBER THAT WHILE SOMETHING MAY MEAN MORE TO YOU, THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING ELSE THAT MEANS MORE TO SOMEONE ELSE. BUT IT'S AGAIN, IT'S ABOUT THOSE PERSONAL STORIES WE BRING AND WHAT THE THINGS THAT HAVE TOUCHED US IN OUR LIVES. AND I THINK WE CAN ALL COME TOGETHER, THOUGH, AND HAVE THAT COMPASSION AND EMPATHY FOR ONE ANOTHER ON WHATEVER THE TOPIC IS OF PARTICULAR IMPORTANCE TO, TO THEM. THANK YOU. THERE'S JUST SO MANY PEOPLE AND SO I WON'T BE SPECIFIC, BUT WE HAVE GREAT PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY, BOTH IN TOWN EMPLOYEES AND IN VOLUNTEERS THAT ARE MOVING SO MANY IMPORTANT INITIATIVES FORWARD, FORWARD, WHETHER IT BE WHAT BOB IS WORKING ON WITH THE TRASH OR WHAT MATT IS WORKING ON WITH TRAFFIC SAFETY, THEY ARE ALWAYS RECEPTIVE. WE HAVE A HISTORIC HISTORICAL SOCIETY THAT JUST HAD AN EVENT LAST WEEK WHERE THEY DID THE RIBBON CUTTING ON SOME ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS REFURBISHED WINDOWS THAT WERE SAVED OUT OF THE CONVENT. THE MOTHERHOUSE AREA OVER WHICH NOW IS THE SINATRA PROPERTY. AND I'M PROBABLY NOT SAYING THAT EXACTLY RIGHT. BUT BUT LAURA AND AND THAT GROUP, THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY, HAD A WONDERFUL EVENT. AND IF YOU WERE NOT ABLE TO ATTEND THAT DAY, STOP IN. BECAUSE WHEN YOU GET THERE TO SEE THOSE WINDOWS, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO SAY TO YOURSELF, HOW DID I NOT KNOW THAT ALL OF THIS WAS HERE? IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD THE THE OPPORTUNITY YET TO GO THROUGH AND YOU WILL GET LOST LOOKING THROUGH ROOM AFTER ROOM OF SOME PRETTY INCREDIBLE ARTIFACTS FROM THE BEAUTIFUL HISTORY OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND THEY HAVE SOME PLANS FOR THE FUTURE OF THAT FACILITY THAT I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE UNFOLD. AND WE COULD GO ON AND ON. THERE'S JUST NO END TO THE AMAZING THINGS THAT HAPPENS THROUGHOUT OUR TOWN, THROUGHOUT OUR SCHOOLS. WE HAD A TOUCH A TRUCK EVENT THAT ED HUGHES, OUR HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENT, PUT TOGETHER LAST WEEK, AND HIS STAFF. IT WAS GREAT TO SEE ALL OF THE STAFF THAT WAS THERE AND THE EXUBERANT EXUBERANCE FROM THE CHILDREN. AT ONE POINT I WALKED UP TO ONE OF THE TRUCKS AND THE MOTHER JUST SAID, SHE GOES. I SAID, STOP, BUT. AND I LOOKED INSIDE AND SHE HAD HER TWO LITTLE, LITTLE ONES WERE HANGING UPSIDE DOWN FROM ONE OF ONE OF THE BARS, AND THEY WERE SQUEALING, SQUEALING WITH DELIGHT. IT WAS, IT WAS. IT WAS A GREAT MOMENT TO SEE. SO YES, WE HAVE TONS OF GREAT THINGS GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITY. PLEASE TAKE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. AND LAST BUT OF COURSE, NOT LEAST IS AGAIN, I WILL SAY THAT EVERY TIME THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE HERE, WHETHER IT'S A SMALL CROWD OR A LARGE CROWD, AND YOU'RE HERE SHARING YOUR THOUGHTS, IT REALLY IS TRULY IMPORTANT TO US. AND IT'S VALUABLE. IT'S VALUABLE FOR US TO HEAR ALL THAT THAT YOU HAVE TO SAY. AND I THE STORIES I HEARD TONIGHT, I CAN'T I CAN'T SAY IT BETTER THAN ANY OF THE PEOPLE WHO GOT UP AND AND SPOKE WITH SUCH ELOQUENCE AND HEARTFELT COMMITMENT AND PASSION ABOUT THIS TOPIC. SO I APPLAUD ALL OF YOU. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT REGARDLESS OF HOW THIS TURNS OUT, IT HAS BEEN MY PLEASURE. AND JOYFUL LEARNING EXPERIENCE TO HAVE [02:40:02] WORKED ALONGSIDE OF SO MANY DIFFERENT COMMUNITY GROUPS AND INDIVIDUALS OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. WHILE WE STARTED WITH NOTHING AND CRAFTED INTO SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ALL BE PROUD OF, AND I STILL HAVE A LOT OF HOPE THAT WE WILL ALL STAND THERE TOGETHER AT THAT RIBBON CUTTING EVENT SOMEDAY IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE. BECAUSE REGARDLESS OF HOW WE HAVE TO PIVOT RIGHT NOW OR WHAT HAPPENS, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, I DO STAY COMMITTED TO YOU IN PLEDGING THAT YOUTH AND SENIOR SERVICES, PROGRAMING AND A FACILITY ARE CRUCIAL IN THIS COMMUNITY, AND I LISTENED LOUD AND CLEAR WHEN YOU SPOKE OVER THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS. AND I WILL STAY COMMITTED TO SEEKING THAT END RESULT ALONGSIDE YOU. THAT IS, YOU KNOW, YOU HEAR A LOT OF THINGS AND SOME PEOPLE SAY TO ME, WHY DON'T, BETH, WHY DON'T YOU SAY SOMETHING BACK WHEN THINGS ARE SAID OR WHEN COMMENTS ARE MADE? IT I DON'T I DON'T NEED TO. WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME ARE THE CONVERSATIONS THAT I HAVE WITH THE RESIDENTS OF THE TOWN AND THE PROJECTS. I GET SO MUCH JOY OUT OF WORKING ALL THESE ON ALL OF THESE PROJECTS WITH OUR COMMUNITY. AND AND THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO LISTEN TO. AND THAT'S THE THAT'S WHAT I'LL RESPOND TO. I'LL RESPOND TO CONVERSATION AND THE IDEAS BROUGHT FORTH AND THE PROCESS THAT WE ALL ENGAGE IN SO THAT WE CAN MAKE OUR COMMUNITY COMMUNITY BETTER TOGETHER. SO THANK YOU. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE FOR COMING TONIGHT, WHETHER YOU WERE HERE FOR THE GARBAGE, THE GARBAGE DISTRICT OR JUST TO EXPRESS YOUR OPINION ABOUT THE SENIOR CENTER OR WHATEVER. BUT IT'S JUST GREAT TO SEE EVERYBODY HERE AND WE HOPE YOU COME TO MORE MEETINGS. AND WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO SAY GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HELP WITH THE COMMITTEES. WITH THE BACKING OF DIVISIONS, LOOKING FOR THE COMMUNITY RECREATION CENTER. YEP. MOTION TO ADJOURN SECOND. U * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.