[1. EDF Power Solutions Inc. – Requesting Site Plan and Special Use Permit Approval of a proposal to construct a 2.5 MW Tier 3 solar project on a 17-acre parcel to be located south of East Pleasant Avenue (SBL #: 182.14-2-4.11)]

FIRST CASE IS EDF POWER SOLUTIONS INC REQUESTING A SITE PLAN AND SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPROVAL OF A PROPOSAL TO CONSTRUCT A 2.5MW TIER THREE SOLAR PROJECT ON A 17 ACRE PARCEL TO BE LOCATED SOUTH OF EAST PLEASANT AVENUE. SBL NUMBER 18214-2- 4.11. AND I ADDED THAT BECAUSE THERE'S SOME CONFUSION ABOUT THE ADDRESS, SO WE'LL HIT IT RIGHT OFF THE BAT.

SO IS THE APPLICANT HERE. ALL RIGHT. COME ON UP. SO I'M GOING TO ASK WHOEVER'S GOING TO SPEAK.

YOU SAW THE MICROPHONE. YOU'RE GOING TO NOT THE CHANNEL FOR MICROPHONE BUT THE MICROPHONE THAT'S IN THE REST. IF YOU COULD GRAB THAT MICROPHONE IDENTIFY YOURSELF, SPELL YOUR LAST NAME AND THEN PROCEED WITH YOUR PROJECT. GREAT. ARE WE ON? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YEP. GOOD EVENING. I FEEL LIKE I'M AN ENTERTAINER NOW HOLDING THIS MICROPHONE, BUT THANK YOU. MY NAME IS TORI VANSLYKE. I'M A PROJECT DEVELOPER WITH EDF POWER SOLUTIONS AND LAST NAME SPELL IT PLEASE. YES, IT'S TWO WORDS. V A N S L Y K E. OKAY, GREAT. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US THIS EVENING. WITH ME TONIGHT IS MY COLLEAGUE KELLY SULLIVAN. AS YOU SEE ON THE SLIDE THERE IS WITH LABELLA ASSOCIATES. LABELLA IS OUR MAIN CIVIL AND ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEERING CONSULTANT ON THIS PROJECT. SO MAYBE DEFER TO HER FOR A COUPLE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD MEMBERS MAY HAVE. AND I'M DRIVING THE BUS, SO I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND GET ROLLING. JUST A LITTLE OVER A AGENDA HERE. JUST WE MADE THESE SLIDES JUST TO SERVE AS KIND OF AN INTRO TO THE PROJECT. I MEAN, YOU ALL OF COURSE, HAVE A PRETTY INVOLVED PACKET OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE SUBMITTED, BUT JUST WE'LL GIVE A LITTLE INTRODUCTION ON THE COMPANY AND ON THE PROJECT, SHOW A FEW PHOTOS JUST TO SHOW YOU WHAT OTHER PROJECTS HAVE LOOKED LIKE IN NEW YORK WE'VE BUILT TO DATE. AND THEN WE HAVE THE VISUAL SIMULATIONS WE CAN SHOW AS WELL, IF THAT'S HELPFUL. SO FIRST, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT US. EDF POWER SOLUTIONS IS A FAIRLY LARGE ENERGY COMPANY WITHIN NORTH AMERICA. IT STARTED ALMOST 40 YEARS AGO AND WE COVERED THE US, CANADA AND MEXICO. AND WE HAVE ABOUT 600 EMPLOYEES ACROSS THE THREE COUNTRIES. AND WE'RE A PRETTY FULL SUITE RENEWABLE ENERGY DEVELOPER THAT INCLUDES WIND, SOLAR, HYDRO, PUMPED HYDRO STORAGE OR, SORRY, EV CHARGING AND ENERGY STORAGE. AND WE HAVE FOUR DIVISIONS WITHIN THE COMPANY, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT HAND OF THIS SLIDE. AND ALL FOUR OF THE DIVISIONS DO WHAT WE SEE ON THE RIGHT HAND OF THE OF THE SLIDE. SO WE DO WHAT'S CALLED ORIGINATION WHERE WE FIND THE SITE'S DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS WHAT I DO, WHERE WE GET THE SITE, TAKE IT FROM ORIGINATION AND WORK TO DESIGN IT AND MAKE SURE IT FITS IN THE SPACE AND ENVIRONMENTALLY SOUND, ETC. TAKE IT TO THE CONSTRUCTION TEAM. TRANSACTION KIND OF FITS IN WHEREVER. THAT'S OUR FINANCE TEAM TO ACQUIRE AND SELL SITES, THINGS LIKE THAT, AND ASSETS.

AND THEN WE HAVE AN OPTIMIZATION FUNCTION WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HELP RUN EXISTING OR OPERATING SITES. AND SO I'M IN THE DISTRIBUTION SCALE POWER DIVISION. WE KIND OF RUN MEDIUM SIZED PROJECTS WITHIN THE SOLAR SPACE, NOT YOUR VERY LARGE PROJECTS THAT RUN ON TRANSMISSION VOLTAGE AND NOT YOUR VERY SMALL PROJECTS LIKE ON A ROOFTOP, BUT INSTEAD KIND OF IN THE, IN BETWEEN. AND FOR OUR DIVISION, WE'VE BEEN AROUND FOR ABOUT 25 YEARS.

WE'VE DEVELOPED OVER 1700, ABOUT 1700 MEGAWATTS TO DATE ACROSS 27 STATES. AND WE, AS I SAID, WE RUN EVERYTHING FROM ORIGINATION THROUGH DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT'S CALLED EPC, WHICH IS AN ACRONYM FOR ENGINEERING, PROCUREMENT AND CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS JUST A MOUTHFUL OF

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SAYING CONSTRUCTION. MAYBE. THERE WE GO. HERE'S SOME HERE'S OUR PROJECTS WE'VE DONE AROUND THE STATE TO DATE. WE'RE PUSHING ALMOST 60MW ACROSS 20 PROJECTS. AS YOU CAN SEE, MOST HAVE BEEN CLUSTERED IN CENTRAL NEW YORK. I'VE DONE I'VE WORKED ON ABOUT FOUR OF THESE FOR ABOUT FIVE. WHEN I FIRST STARTED WITH THE COMPANY, MY FOUR YEARS OF THE COMPANY NUMBERS 11 THROUGH 16, ESSENTIALLY THE QUIET MEADOWS SITES, WYNEMA WARRIOR AND KIND OF THE UTICA, ONEIDA, SYRACUSE AREA. AND YOU CAN SEE THE SIZES ON THE RIGHT. AND, YOU KNOW, THEY RANGE FROM BELOW ONE MEGAWATT UP TO FIVE IN NEW YORK STATE COMMUNITY SOLAR PROJECTS, OF WHICH THESE ARE ALL. AND THIS PROPOSED PROJECT IS AS WELL. CAP PROJECTS AT FIVE MEGAWATTS AC TO TO QUALIFY AS COMMUNITY SOLAR. AND I WILL SAY QUICKLY AS WELL, JUST AS A QUICK CORRECTION IN YOUR INTRO, YOU SAID THE PROJECT IS 2.5MW. IT'S IT'S 2.68MW DC AND WHAT HITS THE GRID WILL BE TWO MEGAWATTS AC. SO JUST AND THAT'S IN YOUR INFORMATION THERE TOO. BUT JUST WANTED TO CORRECT THAT. SO THE PROJECT WE'RE CALLING THIS, WE NAMED IT 18 MILE SOLAR. SO JUST AS A BRIEF OVERVIEW, YOU SEE THE SITE PLAN THERE ON THE RIGHT NORTH IS TO THE RIGHT OF THE IMAGE. SO IT'S ROTATED 90 DEGREES. AS I JUST SAID, THE FIRST ITEM ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE THERE SHOWS THE SIZING. BOTH THE DC AND AC SIZE.

ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT MEANS IS THE PANELS ARE GOING TO GENERATE THAT AMOUNT OF ELECTRICITY. IT'S ON THE LEFT. AND THEN THROUGH VARIOUS ENGINEERING THINGS LIKE INVERTER LOSSES AND, AND SOME KIND OF ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING ASPECTS, WHAT ACTUALLY HITS THE GRID WILL BE THE TWO MEGAWATTS AC ALTERNATING CURRENT. SO TRANSITIONING FROM DC TO AC WILL ALWAYS GO DOWN IN SIZE. AND THE PROJECT OVERALL WILL CONSIST OF THE COMPONENTS THERE.

ON THE SECOND ROW, WE'RE USING BIFACIAL MODULES, WHICH MEANS THEY HAVE THE PHOTORECEPTORS ON THE BOTH SIDES OF THE MODULE, SO THEY CAN GET GENERATE ELECTRICITY FROM THE FRONT AND THE BACK. AND WE HAVE STRING INVERTERS, WHICH ARE JUST SMALLER INVERTERS THAT ARE IN STRING, AS THE NAME SUGGESTS, INSTEAD OF ONE LARGE INVERTER ON THE SITE AND THE TRANSFORMER, WHICH IS KIND OF IN THE KIND OF THE CENTER BOTTOM RIGHT OF THE IMAGE, IN FACT, I CAN THIS IS POWERPOINT, RIGHT? JOSH. WE'RE ON. LET'S SEE IF I CAN SEE IT FROM THIS FAR AWAY. I CAN GO TO LASER POINTER. DOES THAT SAY LASER POINTER HIGHLIGHTER HIGHLIGHTER. WHERE'S POINTER.

ONE MORE UP. THAT'S PEN. MAYBE IT'S ONE MORE. I THOUGHT IT WAS THAT ONE. OR SOMEONE SAY A POINTER SOMEWHERE. WELL IT'S OKAY I GOT MY CURSOR. I'LL MAKE DO. SO THE SITE CONTROL. YOU CAN SEE THE LITTLE BIT OF INFO ABOUT THE PARCEL HERE. IT'S ZONED OF COURSE, RA RESIDENTIAL, AGRICULTURAL. IT TOTALS ALMOST 17 ACRES AND OUR. THE CURRENT DESIGN WOULD BE TO LEASE ABOUT NINE AND A QUARTER OF THOSE ACRES. AND THE CURRENT TERM IS, IS A BASE TERM OF 25 YEARS. AND THEN IT CAN GO UP TO A TOTAL OF 40. THE LEASE WE WILL HAVE WITH THE LANDOWNER HAS UP TO THREE PERIODS OF FIVE YEARS, UP TO THREE OF THOSE, UP TO THREE ADDITIONS OF FIVE YEARS EACH.

AND THEN OUR ANTICIPATED MILESTONES DOWN HERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST ANTICIPATING GETTING OUR PERMITS DONE WITH THE TOWN. NOT ONLY THIS, BUT OF COURSE, IF WE'RE APPROVED, WILL GO FOR OUR BUILDING PERMITS, ELECTRICAL, ALL THAT FUN STUFF. AND WE'LL HOPING TO ISSUE A NOTICE TO PROCEED FOR CONSTRUCTION IN THE FALL. AND THEN WE'LL ACTUALLY HIT COMMERCIAL OPERATION AT THE END OF 2027. AND THE REASON FOR THAT KIND OF LONG TIME IS WE ACTUALLY HAVE A FAIR NYSEG THE UTILITY WE'RE WORKING WITH NEW YORK STATE, NEW YORK STATE ELECTRIC AND GAS HAS A PRETTY LONG TIMELINE FOR THEM TO ACTUALLY COME AND FINISH THEIR WHAT'S CALLED INTERCONNECTION FACILITIES, WHICH WOULD BE ON THE POLES OUTSIDE TO THE STREET AND ACTUALLY CONNECTED TO THE POWER GRID. SO THE INTERCONNECTION AGREEMENT WE HAVE WITH THEM THAT'S EXECUTED HAS THEM ANTICIPATING TO COME ON SITE IN THE SUMMER OR, EXCUSE ME, SUMMER OR FALL OF 2027 TO DO THAT INTERCONNECTION WORK. SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THAT KIND OF LONG TIME SPAN THERE. SO A LITTLE BIT ON THE PROJECT IN TERMS OF CHARACTERISTICS, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE WE WANT WE DESIGNED THE PROJECT TO COMPLY WITH YOUR SOLAR LAW. AND IT'S A TIER THREE SYSTEM AS MENTIONED IN THE INTRODUCTION. SO THE TOWN HAS KIND OF THE MODEL NEW YORK STATE SOLAR LAW THAT WITH SOME NUANCES FOR THE TOWN THAT WE'VE COMPLIED WITH. AND THAT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE SETBACKS, FENCING, PANEL HEIGHT, THE ACCESS ROAD, AND THE LANDSCAPING. WE'VE DONE A FAIR AMOUNT OF DILIGENCE ON THE SITE TO DETERMINE THAT IT'S VIABLE, THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS, INCLUDING WHETHER THERE'S NO JURISDICTIONAL WETLANDS ON THE PARCEL. AND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, CONCURRENCES THAT ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR BOARD PACKET FROM AGENCIES LIKE DC, FROM SHIPPO THAT CONFIRM THAT THERE ARE NO ARCHEOLOGICAL OR CULTURAL RESOURCES ON THE SITE OR CRITICAL SPECIES OR HABITAT THAT ARE FOUND ON THE PARCEL. IT'S A FAIRLY FLAT PARCEL, SO WE REALLY DO NEED GRADING HERE, ONLY KIND OF MINIMAL WHAT WE CALL SPOT GRADING, WHICH WE DON'T ANTICIPATE REALLY AT ALL OCCASIONALLY HERE AND THERE TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, THE A

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RELATIVELY FLAT ACROSS THE RACKING, THE RACKING SOLUTION WE HAVE ALLOWS SOME UNDULATIONS OF THE SITE. SO, BUT ONCE WE GET KIND OF FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD, WE'LL WORK WITH OUR RACKING VENDOR TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T NEED ANY GRADIENT HERE. BUT AS WE'VE DESIGNED IT, AS OUR ENGINEERS HAVE REVIEWED IT, THE ONLY SPOTS REALLY NEED GRADING AT THIS TIME WILL BE FOR THE ACCESS ROAD AND FOR THE EQUIPMENT PAD THAT WE CAN LOOK AT. SMALL EQUIPMENT PAD HERE IN A BIT, KIND OF OUR STANDARD IS THAT ANY AREAS THAT WILL BE DISTURBED FROM, FROM CONSTRUCTION, ESSENTIALLY ANYTHING WITHIN THE LIMIT OF DISTURBANCE WILL EITHER HAVE THE LANDSCAPING OR WE'LL SEED IT WILL PLANT KIND OF A REGION, NATIVE, POLLINATOR FRIENDLY KIND OF FLOWERING SEED MIX. IT'S KIND OF A LOWER GROWTH SEED MIX. SO WE ONLY HAVE TO MOW IT 3 TO 4 TIMES A YEAR. WE ALSO HAVE SITES THAT THE LANDOWNER AND THE OWNER WANT TO BRING IN SHEEP GRAZING INSTEAD OF MOWING. SO THAT COULD BE AN OPTION HERE, FOR EXAMPLE. AND, YOU KNOW, JUST A KEY PART OF, OF KIND OF THE SOLAR PROJECT IN GENERAL. AND THE PLANTING HERE IS IT WILL ALLOW THIS LAND TO REST AND REGENERATE FOR THE LIFESPAN OF THE PROJECT. SO THAT MEANS NO, NO WATER APPLIED TO THE SITE, NO FERTILIZERS, NO PESTICIDES OR HERBICIDES, THINGS LIKE THAT. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A FARMED PARCEL. MOST RECENTLY, LANDOWNER WAS FARMING ALFALFA, BUT HE'S LET IT SIT FALLOW FOR, I THINK THE LAST 2 OR 3 SEASONS. IF I REMEMBER, THE PERIMETER OF THE PROJECT WILL HAVE WHAT WE CALL AN OPEN, NOT AGRICULTURAL FENCE.

AND THE PICTURES I'LL SHOW LATER WILL SHOW THAT. AND THAT LETS THROUGH SMALL CRITTERS, YOU KNOW, SQUIRRELS, RABBITS, BIRDS, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT A CHAIN LINK FENCE. IT'S KIND OF AN OPEN NOT A FENCE. THE LANDSCAPING WE'VE PROPOSED, WHICH SO FAR ARE CURRENTLY EXISTS OR CONTAINS 343 TREES AND SHRUBS. AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE PLAN. THAT'S PART OF YOUR SITE PLAN DOES MITIGATE THE VIEW FROM NEARBY HOMES AND THE. WE'VE BEGUN COORDINATION WITH THE HAMBURG VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT AND. ERIE COUNTY. WE WERE KIND OF WAITING UNTIL WE HAVE FORMAL ACCEPTANCE OF THE PROJECT FROM THE TOWN PLANNING BOARD TO SEND OUR CERTIFIED LETTERS TO THE COUNTY. IDA TO START THE PILOT PROCESS. AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S COORDINATION THAT YOU ALL KIND OF LEAD WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, BUT WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THEM JUST HAVING SOME INFORMAL DISCUSSIONS. WE'VE SENT THEM THE SITE PLANS WITH ONE OF THE ASSISTANT FIRE CHIEFS. SO WE'VE HAD SOME SOME BACK AND FORTH WITH THEM. AND ALSO A KEY FACT IS ALL THE EQUIPMENT ON THE PROJECT, ALL THE ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT THAT WAS ON THE LAST SLIDE IS USA MADE DOMESTIC CONTENT. SO WE KIND OF MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE CONTENT THAT'S BOTH THAT'S BUILT IN THE UNITED STATES THAT WE CAN USE ON THESE PROJECTS. SO SOME LOCAL BENEFITS, YOU KNOW, OUR MODEL IS WE, WE LEASE OUR LAND FROM LANDOWNERS INSTEAD OF PURCHASING IT. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT MODEL WORKS WELL IN VARIOUS WAYS, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, ALLOWS THE LAND TO STAY IN WITH ITS OWNER WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE FAMILY, WITHIN THE LOCAL COMMUNITY. AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE PROJECT IS DONE AND IT'S DECOMMISSIONED, THAT LAND CAN BE, IT'S GOING TO BE RETURNED TO THE STATE THAT IT WAS BEFORE THE PROJECT AND THEN IT COULD RETURN TO, OR IT COULD BE USED FOR A VARIETY OF USES, INCLUDING FARMING OR ANOTHER USE. THERE ARE POSSIBLE AGRIVOLTAIC OPPORTUNITIES ON THE SITE IF THE OWNER AND THE LANDOWNER AGREE. THAT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE SHEEP GRAZING. AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE'VE ALSO HAD SEVERAL SITES WHERE BEEKEEPERS ARE INTERESTED TO PUT SOME BEE BOXES BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT KIND OF FLOWERING, POLLINATOR FRIENDLY SEED MIX ON THE SITE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S VARIOUS TOWN AND AND COUNTY AND EVEN SOME STATE. BUT I FOCUSED ON TOWN AND COUNTY HERE, ENERGY GOALS THAT THIS KIND OF HELPS. THE PROJECT WILL HELP THE TOWN AND COUNTY ACHIEVE. YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY ACTION PLAN HAS A GOAL OF TRANSITIONING TOWARDS A DECARBONIZED ELECTRIC GRID, AND THE TOWN'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS VARIOUS GUIDING PRINCIPLES, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, FOCUSING ON REUSE AND REVITALIZATION AND MAINTAINING A MIXED USE BASE AND REVITALIZING INFRASTRUCTURE, SOME FINANCIAL BENEFITS. THESE ARE THE FIRST ONE IS A TBD ITEM BECAUSE I MENTIONED THE PILOT. WE DID SEE THERE'S BEEN ONE OTHER SOLAR PROJECT THAT THE THAT ERIE COUNTY. IDA. NEGOTIATED A PILOT FOR. AND THAT WAS AT 45 $4,500 PER MEGAWATT AC. AND THAT HAS AN ANNUAL ESCALATOR THAT'S PRETTY COMMON FOR NEW YORK. SO THAT'S AN OPTION HERE. THAT WOULD BE AN ANNUAL PAYMENT TO THE COUNTY FOR FINANCIAL, YOU KNOW, USES THE COUNTY SEES FIT THE OTHER OPTION, WHICH OF COURSE YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH. AND THAT WILL BE KIND OF A NEXT STEP WORKING WITH YOU ALL IS THE TOWN BOARD MAY REQUEST A HOST COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT, WHICH WE'VE ALSO DONE. AND SO THOSE ARE ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL BOTH THE PILOT AND THE CBA ACT AS ADDITIONAL FINANCIAL INCENTIVES OR PAYMENTS, I SHOULD SAY, TO TO THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY FOR THE PROJECT. AND AS A FINAL NOTE, PROJECTS LIKE THIS THAT ARE DISTRIBUTED, DISTRIBUTED GENERATION OR DG PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, THEIR THEIR LOCAL ELECTRICITY FOR THE LOCAL GRID.

SO WE'RE STAYING AT LOCAL VOLTAGE LIKE THAT YOU SEE ON YOUR TYPICAL WOODEN POWER POLE WITH THE T ON TOP. THIS CIRCUIT'S AT 12 12.5 KILOVOLTS, WHICH IS A PRETTY STANDARD

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CIRCUIT FOR RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND SMALL COMMERCIAL. SO WHEN THAT POWER GOES ONTO THE GRID, IN THIS CASE NYSEG DG GRID, IT WILL STAY WITHIN THIS FEEDER. AND ON THIS SUBSTATION, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE STEPPED UP TO TRANSMISSION VOLTAGE AND EXPORTED LONG DISTANCES. THESE DG PROJECTS KEEP THEIR POWER WITHIN THE SAME SUBSTATION AND SAME FEEDERS, WE CALL THEM, OR CIRCUITS WHERE IT'S GENERATED. AND AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THIS WILL BE A COMMUNITY SOLAR PROJECT ON THE QUALIFIES UNDER THE STATE MODEL THERE AND UNDER THE STATEWIDE SOLAR FOR ALL ACT, SS S SFA. THAT PROGRAM WILL HAVE LOW AND MODERATE INCOME HOUSEHOLDS THAT ARE NICE, AND CUSTOMERS WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY TO RECEIVE BILL CREDITS FOR WANTING TO SUBSCRIBE TO RECEIVE THEIR POWER FROM THIS PROJECT. SO JUST SOME PHOTOS JUST TO SHOW YOU THESE ARE KIND OF WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE. THIS IS TOWARDS THE END OF CONSTRUCTION IN WYNEMA IN. YEAH, THIS IS WYNEMA. THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT ARE DIFFERENT HERE THOUGH. THIS PROJECT HAS A2P OR TWO V SYSTEM. SO THERE'S TWO PANELS. YOU SEE THIS PROJECT IS A1P, SO THERE'LL JUST BE ONE PANEL INSTEAD OF TWO. BUT I WANTED TO SHOW THIS ONE BECAUSE IT SHOWS KIND OF THE ABOVE GROUND WIRING, WHAT'S CALLED A MESSENGER WIRE SYSTEM THAT WE'LL USE ON THE COLLECTORS AT THE END OF THE ROWS. AND THIS IS TOWARDS THE END OF CONSTRUCTION BEFORE WE PLANTED THE OR FINALIZE THE PLANTING OF THE POLLINATOR MIX, BUT JUST KIND OF GAVE AN EXAMPLE OF HOW THE RACKING LOOKS WITH THE WIRING THERE. AND THEN THIS ONE IS JUST FROM THE OUTSIDE OF THE SAME PROJECT. JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, WITH THAT FENCING, LOOKS LIKE THE OPEN UP FENCE IS ABOUT SEVEN FEET TALL AND A TYPICAL GATE, JUST A VEHICLE GATE THAT SPANS THE ACCESS ROAD. AND THEN THE FINAL. THIS IS LOOKING KIND OF STANDING FROM THE PUBLIC ROAD LOOKING INTO THE SITE. OBVIOUSLY, OUR PROJECT HAS A MUCH DENSER VEGETATIVE SCREENING WITH TREES AND SHRUBS, BUT THIS GIVES AN IDEA OF WHAT THE NATIVE SEED MIX WILL LOOK LIKE. THIS IS THE LATER SUMMER, SO WE USUALLY WILL PLANT THESE IF WE'RE DONE WITH CONSTRUCTION IN THE FALL AND WINTER, LET IT ESTABLISH AND THEN OFTENTIMES COME IN WITH A SECOND SEED COAT IN THE SPRING. AND THIS IS LIKE, I THINK MID-SUMMER FOR THAT PROJECT. SO IT ACTUALLY TOOK QUITE WELL ON THAT SITE. I THINK THAT'S THAT'S ABOUT IT. I HAVE THE VISUAL. OH, THERE'S ONE MORE THERE JUST SHOWING. THAT'S ANOTHER SITE. THIS IS I BELIEVE THAT'S QUIET MEADOWS IN THE SAME AREA, BUT JUST GIVES YOU ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF WHAT THAT FLOWERING SEED MIX LOOKS LIKE. HERE'S A SITE PLAN I JUST PUT IN AS A SLIDE IF WE NEED TO REVIEW IT. AND THAT'S, THAT'S ESSENTIALLY THE MY PRESENTATION THERE. SO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. OKAY. JOSH, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD AT THIS POINT? SURE. SO OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT THIS APPLICANT IS BEFORE THE BOARD TODAY. THIS IS KIND OF A FIRST FOR HAMBURG. WE'VE DONE SOLAR PROJECTS BEFORE. NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THIS SCALE. AS YOU GUYS KNOW. THIS BOARD KNOWS WE DID A PROJECT OVER ON SOUTHWESTERN. NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THIS. THIS IS ONE OF OUR I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST TIER THREE KIND OF PROJECT THAT'LL BE BEFORE THE TOWN. ONE THING THAT I DO WANT TO KIND OF START OFF WITH IS FOR ALL OF THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, I'M SEEING A LOT OF FRIENDLY, FAMILIAR FACES FROM PLEASANT AND EAST PLEASANT WHILE THIS MEETING AND A COUPLE OF THE NEXT MEETINGS ARE NOT THE PUBLIC COMMENT TIME, MEANING THAT NO ONE WILL BE ABLE TO COME UP TO THE MIC TO COME SPEAK. I HAVE GIVEN OUT MY EMAIL AND MY EMAIL IS ON THE TOWN WEBSITE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME. THAT DOES GET FORWARDED TO THE BOARD. WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT FOLDER. SO ALL I THINK THERE'S ALMOST 30 PEOPLE WHO HAVE ALREADY SENT A MESSAGE. SO FAR. ALL THE PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS HAVE TAKEN THE TIME TO REVIEW SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS. SO YOU CAN CONTINUE TO DO THAT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT THE OFFICIAL PUBLIC HEARING. AND WHEN WE DO HAVE THE OFFICIAL PUBLIC HEARING, OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE WILL GET NOTICES AND THEY'LL BE ON THE TOWN WEBSITE. SO WE WILL GET THE WORD OUT WHEN IT IS TIME FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID WANT TO CLARIFY IN REGARDS TO THIS PROJECT IS THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO FROM A PLANNING DEPARTMENT STANDPOINT IS WE'RE GOING TO DO WHAT'S CALLED THE COORDINATED REVIEW, WHICH THIS BOARD KNOWS OF. BUT FOR THE PUBLIC THAT'S SENDING OUT THE MATERIALS THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE APPLICANT TO A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT STATE AGENCIES FOR THEIR COMMENT. AND WE'LL ALSO DO CALL THE 2:39 A.M. REFERRAL, AND THAT'S SENDING IT TO THE COUNTY PLANNING BOARD, BECAUSE PLEASANT AVENUE IS A COUNTY ROAD AND IT'S WITHIN 500FT, WE WILL JUST TRIGGER THE REQUIREMENT TO SEND IT TO THE COUNTY. SO THERE WILL BE SOME STATE AGENCIES AND SOME COUNTY AGENCIES THAT WILL BE ABLE TO COMMENT ON THIS PROJECT. WE'LL CONTINUE TO SEND IT TO NYSERDA AND SOME OTHER STATE AGENCIES, EVEN THOUGH THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE APPLICANT. WE'LL CONTINUE TO SEND IT TO THEM ALONG THERE. AND THEN I ONE THING THAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE PUBLIC TO DO IS THAT OUR TOWN SOLAR LAW, WHICH IS UNDER CHAPTER 280 ON THE ZONING CODE, IT'S CALLED SOLAR ENERGY SYSTEMS. I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE WHO HAS AN INTEREST, WHETHER YOU'RE FOR OR AGAINST THE PROJECT OR JUST INTERESTED IN IT AT ALL, TO GO TO OUR TOWN CODE, TYPE IN SOLAR ENERGY SYSTEMS AND ACTUALLY READ THE LAW, BECAUSE THOSE ARE GOING TO BE THE PARAMETERS OF WHAT THE PLANNING BOARD IS GOING TO REVIEW. THIS PROJECT UNDER. THIS PROJECT IS ZONED

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CORRECTLY FOR SOLAR. SO I KNOW THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS THAT I'VE GOTTEN FROM RESIDENTS ON, DOES THIS NEED REZONING? DOES THIS NEED A VARIANCE AT THIS TIME, THIS WILL NOT BE B BEFORE THE TOWN BOARD FOR REZONING. IT WILL NOT BE BEFORE THE ZONING BOARD BECAUSE IT DOESN'T NEED A VARIANCE. ALL THE APPLICATION AND REVIEWS WILL BE BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD BECAUSE IT'S ZONED RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL. AND IF YOU REVIEW THE SOLAR LAW THAT'S ON THE TOWN CODE, TIER THREE PROJECTS ARE ALLOWED IN THE RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL ZONING DISTRICT, BUT THEY REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS TO DO TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IS THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT STANDARDS THAT ARE REQUIRED BY THE PLANNING BOARD ARE IN THE SOLAR LAW. IT'S. CHAPTER TWO, 8379, AND THEN CHAPTER TWO 8380. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO REMIND THIS BOARD OF, BEFORE YOU EVEN ASK SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS, IS THIS BOARD CAN REFER THE APPLICANT TO TO THE TOWN BOARD TO HAVE THE TOWN BOARD CONSIDER WHETHER A HOST COMMUNITY AGREEMENT IS NECESSARY OR NOT. KIND OF JUST PIGGYBACK OFF OF WHAT TORI HAD TALKED ABOUT. THE HOST COMMUNITY AGREEMENT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE IT'S A LEGALLY BINDING CONTRACT BETWEEN A MUNICIPALITY AND A DEVELOPER. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT A TOWN CAN GET OUT OF A HOST COMMUNITY AGREEMENT ARE SOME OF THOSE COMMUNITY BENEFITS. YOU CAN EVEN DO THINGS AS SUCH AS LOCAL HIRING REQUIREMENTS. YOU CAN SET HOW MANY, HOW MUCH PER MEGAWATT YOU KNOW YOU WANT. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE TOWN BOARD WILL CONSIDER. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S IN THE PROCESS OR THE PROCEDURES FOR THE BOARD IS THAT IF YOU SEND IT TO THE TOWN BOARD AND THEY DO DECIDE TO ENTER INTO A HOST COMMUNITY AGREEMENT, THAT AGREEMENT HAS TO BE FINALIZED BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD CAN ACT ON THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT. THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT PIECE THAT IF THE TOWN BOARD DOES DECIDE TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPER, THAT WE CANNOT MAKE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT DECISION UNTIL THAT AGREEMENT HAS BEEN TAKEN CARE OF. SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO JUST KEEP IN MIND. AND THEN AS YOU LOOK AT THE PROCEDURES UNDER THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT PROCESS, UNDER THE SOLAR LAW, LIKE I SAID, WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. THE PLANNING BOARD HAS THE RIGHT TO ASK, YOU KNOW, A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT QUESTIONS, ASK FOR ADDITIONAL STUDIES IF NEED BE. AND THESE ARE REALLY GOING TO BE THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES OF WHAT WE REVIEW UNDER THIS PROCESS. SO I JUST WANT THE PUBLIC TO BE AWARE THAT THERE ARE MATERIALS THAT YOU GUYS CAN REVIEW IF YOU WANT TO, JUST SO THAT YOU KNOW WHAT THE PLANNING BOARD'S PURVIEW IS, WHAT WE CAN DO, WHAT WE CAN'T DO, JUST SO THAT EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE AND THAT THERE AREN'T ANY OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS. BUT IF THERE ARE ANY OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS, AS ALWAYS, YOU CAN SEND ME AN EMAIL OR COME FIND ME IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. I'M ALWAYS AVAILABLE TO TALK TO THE PUBLIC AS NEED BE, AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE. THAT WAS A LOT. GOOD JOB.

BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO THE BOARD, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THE PROCESS BEFORE WE TURN IT OVER FOR THE HOST COMMUNITY TO THE TOWN BOARD. SO TONIGHT WE'RE ASKING QUESTIONS. AND THEN. THEN WE WOULD REFER TO THE TOWN BOARD FOR THE HOST AT THAT POINT AFTER WE ASK ALL THE QUESTIONS AFTER TONIGHT. CORRECT. OKAY. SO WE'RE SO AT THIS POINT, THIS IS A QUESTION AND ANSWER NIGHT BEFORE ANY PUBLIC HEARING IS ORDERED OR ANYTHING ELSE, THEN WE WOULD SEND IT OVER TO THE BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS ON MY TWO PAGES OF QUESTIONS.

CORRECT. SO YOU JUST TOOK OFF NUMBER SEVEN. GOOD. SO THANK YOU. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS I'LL ASK FOR. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO TONIGHT IS AUTHORIZE ME TO COMPLETE THAT 239 REFERRAL AND START THAT COORDINATED REVIEW PROCESS, WHICH IS A 30 DAY PROCESS. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IF THIS BOARD FEELS COMFORTABLE AFTER A DISCUSSION TONIGHT, WE CAN START THAT AFTER THIS MEETING. AND AND IF I MAY 1ST, ONE KEY THING WE'D LIKE TO HAVE TONIGHT TOO, IF POSSIBLE, IS ESSENTIALLY A FORMAL ACCEPTANCE OF THE APPLICATION AND THAT THE TOWN BOARD WILL ESTABLISH ITSELF AS SEEKER LEAD AGENCY SO WE CAN START THE SECRET PROCESS AS WELL. SORRY, THE PLANNING BOARD PLANNING BOARD DOES THAT. DOES THE SEEKER PLANNING BOARD EXCUSE ME. WE'RE FOUR STEPS AHEAD OF THAT. SO LET US LET US BEGIN. BOARD MEMBERS QUESTIONS.

I HAD THE SAME ONE YOU ASKED. JOSH. OKAY. I HAVE TWO PAGES OF QUESTIONS. SO I'LL WHOEVER'S WHOEVER'S READY. MEMBERS. HEY, JACK. SURE. I HAD A QUESTION ON. SO YOU SAID THE THE SEED THAT YOU WERE GOING TO USE THERE ONLY NEEDED TO BE LIKE TRIMMED OR MOWED TWO OR 3 OR 4 TIMES.

BUT WHEN I WAS READING IN THE PROPOSAL THAT IT WAS, THE MAINTENANCE WAS PROPOSED AT TWO TIMES A YEAR. OH. IN THE. ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE ONE OF THE PLAN DOCUMENTS THAT. I APOLOGIZE. THAT MIGHT JUST BE A TYPO. I MEAN, IT DEPENDS ON WHERE LIKE THE AREA OBVIOUSLY.

AND ONCE THE GROUND, ONCE THE SEAT IS ESTABLISHED AND THE SEED MIX IS DECIDED. AND IN FACT, I THINK WHAT I WOULD DO IS OFFICIALLY, I'LL LOOK BACK AT THE LANDSCAPE PLAN AND SEE WHAT THE LANDSCAPE DESIGNER GAVE US FOR THE SEED MIX. BUT YEAH, I CAN IT CAN VARY. IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE GROWTH RATE. AND, YOU KNOW, WE WANT IT TO GROW IN. SO IT ESTABLISHES TO

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ACTUALLY HAVE SOME FOLIAGE TO HOLD THE SOIL AND WHATNOT, BUT NOT GET TOO TALL OR IT STARTS TO CAUSE SOILING ON THE PANELS AND SHADE. SO LIKE, I HAVE A SITE I WORKED ON IN WISCONSIN WHERE IT ACTUALLY WAS ONLY TWICE A YEAR, BUT THEN WE HAVE SITES IN, YOU KNOW, AREAS THAT ARE VERY WET AND VERY SUNNY. IT MIGHT BE AS HIGH AS 4 OR 5 TIMES A YEAR. SO IT REALLY JUST KIND OF DEPENDS. BUT WE CAN STRAIGHTEN THAT OUT AND, AND MAKE GET THE RIGHT NUMBER TOO.

YEAH, I JUST IN MY EXPERIENCE, I DON'T, NO MATTER WHAT THE MIX IS, I DON'T THINK TWO, TWO TIMES WOULD BE ADEQUATE. AND THEN I HAD A CONCERN ABOUT THE SETBACK FROM THE, THE DRIVEWAY THAT THAT CONNECTS TO THE HOUSE AND BACK. IT DOESN'T SEEM IT SEEMS LIKE THE SETBACK WAS MEASURED FROM THE PROPERTY LINE AND NOT THE EDGE OF THE DRIVEWAY. I MEAN, I JUST BECAUSE I KIND OF I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S AN EASEMENT THERE OR NOT, BUT I KIND OF CONSIDER THAT A ROADWAY. ARE YOU TALKING THE ONE THAT'S ON? I'LL REFER TO THE THE ONE THAT RUNS ON TOP OF THE SCREEN. SO THE WEST OF THE. YEAH. SO PER THE TOWN ZONING CODE, THE SETBACKS ARE MEASURED FROM THE PROPERTY LINE TO THE FENCE. AND SO THAT IS A 50 FOOT SETBACK FROM FENCE TO PROPERTY LINE. YEAH. PROPERTY LINE DEFENSE. BUT THE ROADWAYS IT'S 50. IT'S FROM THE EDGE OF THE ROAD. AND SINCE THAT'S CONNECTING TO HOUSE, YOU KNOW, SINCE THERE'S A ROAD, YOU KNOW, A ROAD THERE, ESSENTIALLY, I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT THAT SETBACK SHOULD BE FROM THE EDGE OF THE DRIVEWAY, NOT THE EDGE OF NOT THE PROPERTY LINE. IF YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING, I DO, I DO. I MEAN, AGAIN, WE JUST, WE DESIGNED TO WHAT THE LETTER OF THE LAW IS IN THE, IN THE CODE. AND IT DOES SAY, YEAH, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I, THERE'S NOT, YOU KNOW, I, I SAW WHERE THE PROPERTY LINE, BUT I ALSO SAW WHERE THE RIGHT OF WAY OF THE ROAD SAYS 50FT FROM THE EDGE OF THE ROAD. THERE'S NOT REALLY ANYTHING THAT I FOUND THAT ABOUT EASEMENTS. YOU KNOW, THAT DRIVEWAY EASEMENTS AND I'M NOT SURE, APPARENTLY. I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT HOUSE BEHIND OWNS THAT THAT STRIP THERE. BUT I IMAGINE THEY HAVE AN EASEMENT OR ELSE HOW COULD THEY GET TO THEIR HOUSE? YEAH. THERE'S AN EASEMENT FOR THAT ROAD. CORRECT. YEP. SO AND I JUST SAY I BELIEVE THE ROAD IS 20FT WIDE. AND SO THERE IS THERE WOULD STILL BE ESSENTIALLY ANOTHER 20, 25FT FROM THE ROAD EDGE TO THE PROJECT FENCE. SO THERE IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FENCE DOESN'T ABUT RIGHT AGAINST THE ROAD. THERE IS STILL A, AGAIN, 20, 25FT FROM THE ROADWAY TO THE FENCE. AND THEN IT'S ANOTHER 16FT FROM THE FENCE TO THE NEAREST PANEL. YEAH. ISN'T THERE'S TWO HOUSES BACK THERE THAT, THAT THAT DRIVEWAY SUPPLIES. CORRECT. SO LIKE I SAID, I, I WOULD, I WOULD MUCH RATHER SEE IT FROM THE EDGE OF THE, THE, THE DRIVEWAY OR ROAD THAN FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. JUST CAN YOU PUT THE AERIAL UP SHOWING THOSE, REFLECTING THOSE HOUSES? IS THAT POSSIBLE? OH YEAH. SO THE BOARD SEES EXACTLY WHAT MEMBERS JACK IS REFERRING TO. YOU JUST WANT ME TO LIKE OPEN A REGULAR AERIAL. YEAH. OKAY. PLEASE. THAT'S FINE, I SEE. YEAH, I, I WANTED. THERE WE GO. CAN YOU MOVE IT UP JUST A LITTLE BIT SO WE CAN SEE THOSE HOUSES IN THE BACK. YOU WANT TO GO THIS WAY? YEP. THERE IS THAT MEMBERS. JACK, IS THAT THE HOUSE THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? OKAY. SO THERE'S A THERE'S ANOTHER ONE EVEN FURTHER. OKAY. THAT ROAD CONNECTS TO IT LOOKS LIKE I, I DON'T I'M SORRY, WERE YOU GOING TO SAY SOMETHING? I, I DON'T BELIEVE THE PROJECT GOES THAT FAR BACK. DOES IT ACCORDING TO. NO IT DOESN'T, BUT THERE'S A PROPERTY OWNER. THIS PROPERTY OWNER ACTUALLY, THE PROPERTY LINE INCLUDES. THE PROPERTY ENDS UP INCLUDING THAT ROADWAY. SO IF YOU LOOK TO SEE WHERE THAT YELLOW LINE IN YELLOW LINE, WHICH IS THE PROPERTY LINE IS ON THE NORTH SOUTH EAST WESTERN EDGE OF THE ROAD IN WHICH IS

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THE ACCESS FOR THE HOUSE THERE, AS WELL AS ALSO AN ADDITIONAL HOUSE FURTHER SOUTH. SO MEMBERS, ISAAC IS ASKING THAT THE 50 YARD SETBACK NOT BE FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, BUT FROM THE EASTERN EDGE OF THAT ACCESS ROAD, THEREFORE PUSHING IT MORE EAST, BUT THEN ALSO UNDERSTANDING HOW WE'RE GOING TO IF THERE ARE DOCUMENTS AND EASEMENTS THAT ALLOW FOR THESE TWO HOMES TO HAVE PERMANENT ACCESS FROM PLEASANT TO THEIR HOMES, DO THOSE EXIST? THE EASEMENTS THEY DO THEIR PART OF THE CHAIN OF TITLE ATTORNEY JOSEPH GOERGEN. IF YOU LOOK AT THE THE ONE SITE PLAN IT DOES LIST, AND I I'M ASSUMING IT'S FROM THE ABSTRACT OF TITLE WHERE IT LISTS THE SETS SET OUTS FOR THOSE TWO SPECIFIC ONES. YEAH. THERE'S AN EXCEPT THERE'S AN EXCEPTION FOR 19 AND 26, I THINK WERE THE NUMBERS, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN, THERE'S A P E LINE, WHICH I'M GUESSING IS THE, THE ENGINEERING GUESSTIMATION OF WHERE THE LINES ARE THE, THE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER PE LINE.

CORRECT. IS THAT CORRECT. AND WE HAD AN ALTA SURVEY CONDUCTED. SO THEY DID A DESKTOP. AND SO THERE'S, THERE'S TWO PE LINES WHICH WOULD WOULD BE THE, THE BORDER OF THAT 30 OR 50, WHATEVER THE FOOTAGE WAS. AND THEN YOU'LL SEE THE EASEMENT LINE, WHICH ACTUALLY REFERS TO IT AS, AS THE DIFFERENT SET OUTS. SO IF YOU DO LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN, JOSH, IF YOU'RE ABLE TO GO TO THE SITE PLAN. YEAH, THAT ONE HAS IN THE BACKGROUND A LOT OF THE PROPERTY DETAIL.

AND YEAH, YOU COULD PULL UP THE THAT ONE WORKS. IT'S KIND OF A FUZZY IMAGE IF YOU HAVE THE FULL PLAN. DOC, I HAVE IT ON PAPER HERE. LET ME SEE WHICH PAGE IT IS. ON. 201 PROBABLY.

YEAH, IT'S IT'S C201. ZOOM IN. YEAH. ONE MORE PAGE. 201 THERE YOU GO. IT'S A LITTLE GRAYED OUT, BUT IT'S IT'S THE UNDERLYING LAYER IN THE BACK. SO IT'S ACTUALLY A 16.5FT WIDE ROAD. IT BUTTS UP AGAINST MY PROPERTY. SORRY. THERE'S NO, NO, NO PUBLIC AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION AT THIS POINT. OKAY. FOR YOU FOLKS LATER. BUT YEAH, I, I DO KNOW IT'S I DO KNOW IT'S THERE. I DID SEE IT. MEMBERS. HEY, JACK, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH. ALSO THE, THE ACTUALLY WALKED THAT POND THAT'S REAL CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY TODAY. AND YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL IT'S ALL BERMED UP. YEAH. TO THE RIGHT. NOT THAT POND. NO. THE NEIGHBORING POND.

OH YEAH. SO I WALKED THAT PROPERTY TODAY AND WALKED AROUND THE POND AND VIEWED THE WHOLE PROPERTY FROM THERE. AND IT'S, IT'S BERMED UP OVER THERE. AND OBVIOUSLY THE PEOPLE THAT OWN THAT TAKE, TAKE CARE OF IT AND MAINTAIN IT. SO THEY USE IT. AND I THINK A LOT MORE BUFFERING AND EVEN MAYBE SOME MORE SETBACK FROM THAT POND SHOULD, SHOULD BE THOUGHT ABOUT BECAUSE I MEAN, YOU CAN SEE, I MEAN, YOU CAN SEE THE, ALL THE HOUSES THAT ARE NEAR THAT FROM THAT POND. SO I IMAGINE OBVIOUSLY IF YOU WALK AROUND THAT POND, ALL YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IS THE SOLAR PANELS. SO I THINK A LOT MORE LANDSCAPING AND WHERE THE LANDSCAPING IS ON THE, THE WHAT YOU PRESENTED, I DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, DOES ANYTHING TO SHIELD THAT AT ALL.

I MEAN, THERE IS SOME NEAR THERE, BUT THERE'S WIDE OPENINGS THAT YOU CAN SEE EVERYTHING. BUT I WOULD, I WOULD THINK THAT YOU KNOW, HOW FAR IT'S SET BACK. I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR IT'S SET BACK RIGHT NOW, MAYBE 100FT OR SO, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S ADEQUATE. AND I, AND I DON'T THINK THE LANDSCAPING IS ADEQUATE ALONG THAT SIDE AT ALL. YEAH. I MEAN, WE'RE OPEN TO DISCUSSING IF ADDITIONAL IF THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, WANTS TO SEE ADDITIONAL SCREENING THERE. IF YOU LOOK ON THE TOWARDS THE BACK OF THE SITE PLAN PACKAGE, IT'S L2O1.

IT SHOWS KIND OF IN DETAIL THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPING AND HOW IT KIND OF TIES IN WITH THE EXISTING LANDSCAPING THERE, THERE IS KIND OF THAT GRAY AREA THAT'S ON THE THE RIGHT THEIR PROPERTY. SO CORRECT. I'M NOT. AND THAT GRAY AREA IS AN EXISTING TREE BELT. BUT AGAIN,

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IF WE'RE OPEN TO TOWARDS TOWARDS THE BOTTOM, WELL, I THINK YOU DO HAVE THE GAP IN THERE A LITTLE BIT, BUT STILL THAT'S IT'S A VERY THIN TREE LINE. SURE. AND I DO WE DID INCLUDE THE VISUAL SIMULATIONS IN YOUR PACKET AS WELL THAT THAT THERE'S A VIEW WAY FROM THE ROAD. YEAH. SO THE FARTHEST ONE. SO I GUESS THE LAST IMAGE PROBABLY. OR ONE IMAGE BACK EVEN BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S THAT BECAUSE I MEAN, WE HAD, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAD TO TAKE THESE FROM A PUBLIC ROADWAY SO THAT, I MEAN, THAT'S NOT YEAH, IT'S PROBABLY THE LAST ONE, WHICH AGAIN, FROM THE PUBLIC ROADWAY, YOU, YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN SEE THE BERM OF THE POND. SURE. THERE. YEP. AND THEN YOU'RE UP ON THAT BERM. I MEAN, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT AMOUNT OF BUFFERING YOU CAN DO TO NOT RUIN THAT, THAT ESTHETIC BACK THERE. BUT LIKE I SAID, I'M, I, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LOT MORE SETBACK FROM THAT POND. OKAY. THAT'S, THAT'S THE EXTENT OF MINE. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? BOARD MEMBER STEWART, I CONCUR WITH WHAT MISS BOARD MEMBERS. RICH ZAJAC SAID ABOUT THE SETBACK. I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO. MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S ADEQUATE COVERAGE, NOT ONLY FROM THE ROAD, BUT LIKE MR. ZAJAC STATED. IF THEY'RE OUT THERE FISHING AT THEIR POND OR THEY'RE OUT THERE JUST, YOU KNOW, IN THEIR LAWN CHAIRS ENJOYING A NICE EVENING, I'M SURE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WANT TO HEAR BUZZING SOUND OR BEING ABLE TO SEE THOSE SOLAR PANELS IN THEIR BACKYARD. SURE. ANYONE ELSE REMEMBER RYAN? I'M CURIOUS ON WHY YOU PICKED A SITE THAT IS SO CLOSE TO THE RESIDENTIAL AREA. LET US GET OUR WE GOT TO GET THE QUESTIONS OUT. GO AHEAD. THAT'S MY ONE QUESTION. THE OTHER QUESTION, AS MEMBER STEWART SAID, IS THE NOISE LEVEL FROM THE FANS AND THE TRANSFORMERS WHEN THEY'RE AT WHEN THEY'RE UNDER THEIR HEAVIEST INTAKE LOAD? FROM WHAT I'VE READ AND SEEN OR HEARD, THE BUZZING CAN BE QUITE LOUD. THAT MAKES A CONCERN FOR ME, FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY. AND WHEN THE PAN IS THE. THE OTHER ONE IS WHEN THE PANELS DROP OUT OF THEIR PEAK EFFICIENCY. HOW AND HOW DO YOU DISPOSE OF THE PANELS AND HOW? WHEN DO YOU DECIDE TO CHANGE THEM OUT BEFORE ANY EROSION STARTS THAT COULD CONTAMINATE THE GROUND UNDERNEATH IT FROM THE RUNOFF OF ANYTHING THAT WOULD COME OFF OF THEM? SURE. SO I THINK I REMEMBER THE THREE QUESTIONS. SO I'LL GO IN REVERSE ORDER. SO THE PANEL QUESTION, I MEAN, THAT'S I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT SOLAR PANEL CONTAINS FOUR THINGS GLASS, ALUMINUM SILICON AND SOME SOLDER MATERIAL. SO THEY'RE SEALED COMPONENTS AND THEY'RE DESIGNED TO LAST FOR THE LIFETIME, YOU KNOW, THE LIFETIME OF THIS SITE. SO 40 YEARS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE DESIGNED TO TAKE ON UV ENERGY. SO THEY'RE GOING TO WITHSTAND UV ENERGY AND STAY, YOU KNOW, AS A SEALED UNIT, RIGHT. AND PART OF THAT'S IN OUR OWN PLAN AND THE DECOMMISSIONING PLAN. THERE'LL BE PERIODIC MAINTENANCE AROUND THE SITE MAINTENANCE INSPECTIONS. SO IF THERE ARE PANELS THAT DO GET DAMAGED BY, YOU KNOW, EXTREME WEATHER OR, OR WHAT HAVE YOU, THEN THEY'LL BE REPLACED FOR THE LIFETIME OF THE PANELS. I MEAN, THAT INCREASES SUBSTANTIALLY JUST KIND OF EACH ITERATION, EACH GENERATION. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SEEING SOME SITES THAT CAN GO THE FULL LIFESPAN OF THE, OF THE SITE WITH THE SAME MODULES IN PLACE AND STILL GENERATE, YOU KNOW, CLOSE, FAIRLY CLOSE TO PEAK EFFICIENCY. BUT IT JUST DEPENDS ON, YOU KNOW, THE OWNER AND NYSEG, YOU KNOW, IF AS THE EFFICIENCY OF THE PANELS DEGRADES OVER TIME, IF THEY CHOOSE TO REPLACE THEM, THEN THEY CAN MAKE THAT DECISION. IT'S OBVIOUSLY A COST. AND THERE'S THAT COST THAT WEIGHS AGAINST, YOU KNOW, THE REVENUE OF THE PROJECT AS IS VERSUS COSTING THE PANEL OR THE COST OF THE PANELS. BUT IF AND WHEN THEY ARE REPLACED, YOU KNOW, WE DO OR THE OWNER WILL, YOU KNOW, ABIDE BY THE DECOMMISSIONING PLAN, WHICH INVOLVES RECYCLING THE PANELS OR FIRST IS A REUSE.

SO IF THERE'S AN OPTION TO REUSE THE PANELS, AND WE'VE HAD A FEW SITES THAT ARE AGING OUT WHERE THE MODULES FIND A SECOND LIFE THROUGH, LIKE A DONATION PROGRAM TO USE ON ROOFTOPS,

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SCHOOLS, CHURCHES, THINGS LIKE THAT. THEY CAN BE RECONDITIONED, THEY CAN BE RECYCLED. THERE'S A FEW FACILITIES AROUND THE US NOW THAT TAKE OLD PANELS AND BREAK THEM DOWN IN THEIR OLD, THEIR COMPONENT PARTS AND RAW MATERIALS THAT CAN BE USED AGAIN. SO THAT'S WHAT WE OUTLINED IN THE DECOMMISSIONING PLAN AND THE O&M PLAN FOR ANY REPLACEMENT OF THE PANELS. AND SORRY, THE SECOND QUESTION WAS, DID YOU COME TO THIS? OKAY. THAT WAS I'LL DO THAT ONE. THE FIRST ONE. SO WHEN WE CHOOSE ANY SITE, THERE'S ESSENTIALLY LIKE I LIKE TO CALL IT A TRIFECTA, RIGHT? THERE'S THE FIRST IS WHERE IS THEIR CAPACITY ON THE POWER GRID? WE TRY TO LOOK FOR SITES WHERE THERE'S A CIRCUIT OR A FEEDER, A LINE ESSENTIALLY WHERE CAPACITY EXISTS SO IT ISN'T FULL. AND THERE'S THE ABILITY TO BOTH BECAUSE WHEN POWER FLOWS BIDIRECTIONALLY, IT FILLS UP THAT LINE. THE ELECTRICITY DOES. SO AS MUCH AS PEOPLE ARE WITHDRAWING POWER FROM AT HOMES, BUSINESSES, SCHOOLS AND THE LIKE, YOU CAN PUSH POWER BACK ONTO IT, BUT YOU CAN ONLY FIT SO MUCH ON THERE WITHOUT HAVING TO WHAT'S CALLED RE CONDUCTOR.

IT SO PUT A NEW POWER LINE OUT THAT'S BIGGER AND THICKER AND CAN HOLD MORE ENERGY, RIGHT? SO WE TRY TO LOOK FOR SITES WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT BECAUSE IT ADDS TIME AND COST AND WORKING MORE WITH UTILITY. JUST I ALREADY MENTIONED HOW THE PROCESS CAN BE KIND OF LONG TO INTERCONNECT. SO WE TRY TO FIND A PLACE WHERE WE HAVE EXCESS CAPACITY AND THAT EXISTS ON THIS FEEDER. SO THEN WE TRY TO FIND A WILLING LANDOWNER. SO IN THIS CASE, IT WAS A MAILING CAMPAIGN THAT WE MAILED TO VARIOUS LANDOWNERS IN THE AREA. SEEING IF THEY WERE INTERESTED, THIS LANDOWNER RESPONDED AND SAID HE WAS INTERESTED IN WORKING WITH US TO LEASE HIS LAND FOR THE PROJECT. AND THEN THIRD IS, IS THE SITE VIABLE? AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS DESCRIBING IN THE PRESENTATION, WHAT YOU'VE SEEN IN YOUR BOARD PACKET, YOU KNOW, DOES ARE THERE WETLANDS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONTEND WITH? IDEALLY NOT. ARE THERE ANY ENDANGERED SPECIES OR HABITAT WE HAVE TO CONTEND WITH? AND THERE'S NOT HERE, YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE TO DO ANY GRADING? IDEALLY NOT BECAUSE THAT ALTERS DRAINAGE FLOWS. IT'S JUST MORE COST, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WE TRY TO LOOK FOR A SITE THAT AGAIN, IS RELATIVELY EASY TO PUT A TO PUT A SITE ON. AND THIS SITE FIT THAT BILL. SO THEN WE GO TO THE TOWN CODE AND WE SEE IS THIS SITE GOING TO WORK LEGALLY? AND AS WE'VE DISCUSSED SO FAR, YOU KNOW, IT DOES THE TOWN CODE ALLOWS SOLAR ON THIS PARCEL PER THE ZONING CODE BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY. AND WE'VE DESIGNED IT TO HONOR THE SETBACKS THAT THE TOWN HAS IN ITS ORDINANCE, INCLUDING 300FT FROM NONPARTICIPATING HOMES AND 50FT FROM PROPERTY LINES. SO THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THE THREE OVERARCHING REASONS OF HOW WE ENDED UP ON THIS EXACT SITE. AND THEN I THINK YOU HAD ONE MORE, SORRY, YOUR SECOND QUESTION. THE NOISE LEVEL, THE NOISE. OKAY, SO WE DID INCLUDE EQUIPMENT SPECS IN YOUR BOARD PACKET AND FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE INVERTERS, THE STRING INVERTERS, YOU KNOW, THOSE HAVE A PEAK NOISE OF 68DB AT ONE METER. SO THREE FEET AND 68DB IS ABOUT THE EQUIVALENT OF LIKE A CROWDED RESTAURANT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT SOUND DISSIPATES LOGARITHMICALLY. SO THE MORE AS YOU MOVE AWAY FROM IT, IT DROPS OFF NON-LINEARLY BUT LOGARITHMICALLY. SO THE DISTANCE TO A HOME, THE SOUND IS IDEALLY NEGLIGIBLE BECAUSE OF THE DISTANCE AND THE DISSIPATION THROUGH THINGS LIKE FOLIAGE AND TREES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND FENCING STUFF BETWEEN THE THE SOUND SOURCE AND THE RECEPTOR, THE EAR. SO IDEALLY, AND YOU KNOW, WE PRETTY CONFIDENT OF THIS THAT THERE SHOULD BE NO REAL SOUND, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL BE, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY OF US HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE GREEN KIND OF METAL BOX TRANSFORMERS THAT ARE IN THE BACK OF OUR PROPERTIES. AND THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT'S GOING TO BE ON THIS SITE, A DIFFERENT SIZE OF IT, BUT IT'S TAKING THAT AC ENERGY FROM A HIGHER VOLTAGE AND MAKING IT INTO A LOWER VOLTAGE USING YOUR HOME. SO THIS IS DOING THE OPPOSITE. IT'S ACTUALLY TAKING THE ENERGY FROM THE MODULES AND STEPPING IT UP TO GO ONTO THE GRID. SO IF YOU WALK UP TO THOSE GREEN METAL BOX TRANSFORMERS, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR A HUM. BUT IF YOU STAND AS FAR AS I AM TO THE TV, OR IF YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, 100FT AWAY IN YOUR YARD, YOU DON'T REALLY HEAR ANYTHING. AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE IDEA WITH THESE AND THAT'S THE DATA SHEETS SHOW KIND OF WHAT THE SOUND IS TO COMING OFF THIS EQUIPMENT.

ANYTHING ELSE? YOU'RE ALL SET. ARE YOU READY FOR TWO PAGES OF QUESTIONS? I'M READY. SO I WANT TO START OFF BY SAYING THIS. I DO NOT HAVE A LOT OF EXPOSURE TO SOLAR PANELS IN MY BACKYARD.

I HAVE LIVED ON A HORSE FARM, AND NOW I LIVE ON IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH TREES SURROUND IT. AND WHEN I OPENED UP THIS PACKET AND LOOKED AT IT, THE FIRST THING I THOUGHT ABOUT.

WERE THE NEIGHBORS. SO HANG ON, HANG ON GUYS. SO I, I PRINTED THESE LETTERS AND READ THEM.

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AND MY QUESTIONS ARE BASED ON WHAT SOME OF THESE LETTERS ASKED AND I, AND I'M ALSO I'M AN INSURANCE AGENT, SO I'M GOING TO ASK THIS RIGHT OFF THE BAT. AND THIS COMES FROM MY EXPERIENCE OF. I WENT THROUGH A WETLAND PROJECT BACK IN MICHIGAN. THERE WAS A LOT OF EARTH MOVING. THERE WAS HOUSES RIGHT NEXT TO THE PROJECT, AND THE HOMEOWNERS WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR WELLS AND THEIR GEO PANEL. GEO. GEO THERMAL BEING AFFECTED BY EARTH MOVING. AND MY QUESTION IS, BECAUSE I SAW IN THE PACKET THAT YOU'RE CARRYING $10 MILLION OF INSURANCE, ARE YOU OR WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN CARRYING INSURANCE FOR THE RESIDENTS IF THERE WAS ANY TYPE OF DAMAGE TO THEIR WELLS OR SEPTICS OR ANY KIND OF WATER SOURCE? BECAUSE WE'RE DEALING WITH A RURAL AREA AND YOU MAY NOT HAVE THAT ANSWER RIGHT NOW, BUT I WOULD LIKE YOUR ORGANIZATION TO THINK ABOUT THAT. OKAY. BECAUSE THAT TO ME IS A BIG DEAL. THE OTHER THING, THE NOISE WAS ADDRESSED BECAUSE I DID READ THAT, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE NOISE IS MINIMAL. THE GLARE IS THE QUESTION THAT I HAD ABOUT, BUT IT GOES BACK TO THE BUFFERING.

AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT EVERYBODY'S ON PAGE WITH THE 300 SQUARE, THE 300 FOOT SETBACK. AND I DO AGREE WITH THE FENCING BECAUSE I WAS WORRIED ABOUT THE WILDLIFE TEARING DOWN THE FENCING OR THE DIRT TRYING TO GET IN THERE AND THAT SORT OF THING. SO THAT SEEMS TO BE APPLICABLE. I'M NOT HAPPY WITH THE MINIMAL AMOUNT OF OUTPUT FOR THIS PROJECT. I THINK IT'S THAT IT ONLY ADDRESSES 585 HOUSES. AND SO TO ME, I'M TRYING TO WEIGH EVERYTHING THAT'S GOT TO GO INTO THIS PROJECT PLUS ADDRESS THE HOMEOWNER'S CONCERNS. BUT BECAUSE OF THE PROJECT BEING SO SMALL, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M THAT'S I'M STRUGGLING WITH THAT. AND I'M GOING TO SAY THIS BECAUSE I KNOW THE NEIGHBORS ARE BACK THERE AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO WANT TO HEAR THIS, BUT I THINK I'D RATHER HAVE A SOUL IF I HAD A CHOICE BETWEEN HOUSES AND SOLAR PANELS, I THINK I'D TAKE THE SOLAR PANELS. BUT THE REASON IS, IS BECAUSE THIS IS THE PLANNING BOARD AND WE HAVE A SAY ON BUFFERING AND TREES AND COVERING AND MAKING SURE THAT NOBODY SEES THAT THOSE PANELS FROM THE ROAD OR ANY PLACE ELSE, ESPECIALLY THE NEIGHBORS. AND I'LL GET INTO THAT LATER BECAUSE IT IS A PRETTY EXTENSIVE, PRETTY EXTENSIVE LANDSCAPING PLAN THAT YOU HAVE. BUT IT'S NOT ENOUGH. IT'S NOT ENOUGH, IT'S NOT TALL ENOUGH, IT'S NOT THICK ENOUGH. IT'S NOT GOING TO MEET. IF THIS WAS OUT ON ROUTE FIVE SOMEWHERE AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BUSINESSES, THEN I'D SAY, OKAY, I'LL LOOK THE OTHER WAY OR AT LEAST LOOK A LITTLE BIT. BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HOUSES THAT ARE ON THE SIDE OF OF THIS AND EITHER MAYBE LOOK AT TURNING THE PROJECT SO IT'S NOT SO CLOSE TO THE RESIDENTS.

THAT'S ANOTHER, ANOTHER THOUGHT. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT UNDERGROUND STORAGE. IS THERE ANY. NO. IS THERE WHAT ABOUT THE BATTERY SAFETY? THERE ARE NO BATTERIES ON THIS PROJECT.

WHO OVERSEES THE PLANTING? THE THE PROJECT OWNER ESSENTIALLY WILL HAVE A CONTRACT WITH A LANDSCAPING COMPANY TO DO THE INSTALLATION. AND THEN THAT CONTRACT WILL ALSO INCLUDE MAINTENANCE. AND THAT'S KIND OF DESCRIBED A LITTLE BIT OR IT IS DESCRIBED IN BOTH THE.

OPERATION MAINTENANCE PLAN AND SOMEWHAT IN THE LANDSCAPE PLAN DOCUMENT. BUT YEAH, WE'LL HAVE A CONTRACT TO ENSURE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S PLANTED AND MAINTAINED. SO AND WHO'S WHO WOULD BE THE ENVIRONMENTAL MONITOR? THE I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, WE USUALLY CONTRACT WITH LANDSCAPE COMPANIES THAT, YOU KNOW, SUBCONTRACT OUT TO ENVIRONMENTAL MONITOR OR HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL MONITOR ON STAFF JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COMPLYING WITH ANY TOWN REQUIREMENTS, STATE REQUIREMENTS AND THE LIKE. WELL, BECAUSE OF THE LANDSCAPING, WHO'S IN CHARGE OF THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT LANDSCAPING TAKES AND GROWS TO THE HEIGHT AND THE PROTECTION FROM THIS PROJECT, FROM THE NEIGHBORS. WHO'S IN CHARGE OF THAT? THE OWNER? OKAY. THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY OF THE PROJECT OF THE PROJECT OWNER. WHEN I SAY OWNER, I MEAN PROJECT OWNER. APOLOGIES. OKAY. IN THESE LETTERS, IT WAS BROUGHT UP THAT. IT WAS THEIR BELIEF THAT THE PROPERTY VALUES OF THEIR HOMES WOULD DIMINISH OR DECREASE BASED ON THE FACT THAT THERE WAS SOLAR PANELS IN THEIR BACKYARDS. MY QUESTION IS, HAS THERE BEEN A MARKETING PLAN OR A MARKETING ASSESSMENT? I THINK THEY CALL IT TO MAKE TO DEBUNK THAT THEORY. OR IS THAT THEORY ACCURATE? WE FIND THAT THEORY NOT TO BE ACCURATE. WE HAVE NOT DONE A MARKETING ASSESSMENT OR WE JUST LIKE A PROPERTY STUDY, IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT THAT. WE HAVE NOT DONE

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ONE FOR THIS PROJECT, BUT IF THAT'S SOMETHING IN THE PLAN OR THE PLANNING BOARD WOULD LIKE US TO DO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE WE'VE DONE THAT WORK ON OTHER PROJECTS. AND I'VE FOUND ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE DO IS WE GO AND FIND. AN AREA THAT'S APPLICABLE IN TERMS OF SIZE AND HOME VALUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND LOOK AT BEFORE A PROJECT CAME ONLINE AND AFTER, AND ASSESS BOTH ESTIMATED VALUE, CELL VALUE AND ASSESSED VALUE AND LOOK AT HOW IT CHANGES OVER TIME. AND THE STUDIES WE'VE DONE SO FAR HAVE NOT SHOWN A CORRELATION BETWEEN THE EXISTENCE OF A SOLAR PROJECT AND A DECREASE IN ANY OF THOSE VALUES. I THINK THAT, AND I CAN PRESENT THIS TO THE BOARD FOR AN APPROVAL, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE PROBABLY WOULD WANT TO SEE, BEING THAT THERE IS EVIDENTLY. AND I DIDN'T SEE IT ANYWHERE THAT I READ, BUT IT WAS MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES THROUGHOUT THESE LETTERS THAT THEY SAW THAT THERE WAS DOCUMENTATION OUT THERE. SO I THINK THAT THAT SHOULD BE SOME SOMETHING SHOULD BE PROVEN OR SOMETHING SHOULD BE PRESENTED TO PROVE THAT THAT IS NOT ACCURATE. SURE. AGAIN, ABOUT THE DRILLING OF THE AND THE IMPACT OF THE GROUND WORKING ON THE GROUND, I WOULD ENTERTAIN ABOUT THE INSURANCE AND ABOUT ANY KIND OF DISTURBANCE FOR ANY OF THESE RESIDENTS. THE OTHER THING ABOUT WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE BERM AND THE BUFFERING, IT'S NOT THE NEIGHBOR'S RESPONSIBILITY TO BUFFER THIS PROJECT. AND I THINK WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT TO THAT. AND SO IN ORDER FOR THIS PROJECT TO GO ANY FURTHER, I THINK THAT THE BIGGEST CONCERN IS THAT NEIGHBORS THINK THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE THIS PROJECT. I LOOKING AT THIS PROJECT, DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT'S 100% TRUE, BUT IT'S UP TO THE APPLICANT TO PROVE US TO PROVE ALL OF US WRONG. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A DETAILED EXPLANATION OF HOW THE THE PANELS WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE SEEN AT ALL. AND I DON'T MEAN IN FIVE YEARS. OKAY, SO IF THAT MEANS INCREASING THE TREE SIZE NOW, THEN I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT. IF IT MEANS ADDING ADDITIONAL BUSHES NOW, THEN THAT'S THAT SHOULD BE DONE. NOW, I DON'T THINK THAT I THINK IF THIS PROJECT DOES GO THROUGH, THEN I THINK THAT THE RESIDENTS SHOULD SEE WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR AND THAT'S THEIR PROTECTION AND THE PROJECT. IF THE PROJECT IS VIABLE, I HAVE SOME I HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT FINANCES, BUT I'LL GET INTO THAT. BUT THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN LIVING HERE A LONG TIME. THEY'RE HOMEOWNERS. THEY PAY TAXES. SO AND THE PLANNING BOARD CAN'T JUST SAY NO. SO THAT'S WHY TONIGHT WE ASKED THE QUESTIONS. WE ASKED FOR THE INFORMATION. AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT ALL OF US BECOME EDUCATED ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE I'M SURE MOST OF US HAVE NOT BEEN THROUGH THIS BEFORE. THE OTHER THING IS, IS THAT THIS QUESTION IS FOR JOSH, MY PLANNER. THE NINE ACRES THAT WE'RE USING OR THAT THEY'RE USING FOR THE THE PANELS IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL. WHAT ELSE COULD THIS PROPERTY BE USED FOR WITHOUT A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, YOU COULD PUT A SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN RESIDENTIAL, AGRICULTURAL. YOU COULD PUT A CEMETERY. YOU CAN PUT A CRAFT BREWERY, A CRAFT WINERY. YOU CAN PUT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT RESIDENTIAL USES INTO RESIDENTIAL, AGRICULTURAL. AND NONE OF THOSE. WELL, THE CRAFT WINERY AND BREWERY REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. BUT TRADITIONALLY IN RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURE, THE KIND OF USES THAT YOU SEE ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND SIMILAR KIND OF AGRICULTURAL USES FOR THE MOST PART. OKAY. WHEN YOU SAY SIMILAR AGRICULTURAL USES, CAN WE SPELL THAT OUT OR AM I PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT? SO LIKE A LOT OF TIMES YOU'LL SEE LIKE ACCESSORY USES TO IF SOMEBODY HAS LIKE AN ACTIVE FARM OR YOU'LL SEE LIKE GREENHOUSES, YOU'LL SEE THINGS OF THAT SORT. SO LIKE SMALLER KIND OF ACCESSORY KIND OF USES THAT YOU'LL SEE IN RESIDENTIAL, AGRICULTURAL, TYPICALLY. OKAY, OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. YEP. THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO JUST BRING OUT THERE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS TRUE, BUT I'M GOING TO ADDRESS THIS BECAUSE I WANT THE AUDIENCE TO KNOW IN A COUPLE OF THE LETTERS, IT WAS MENTIONED THAT THE PEOPLE INVOLVED WITH THIS PROJECT, QUOTE UNQUOTE, BULLIED THE RESIDENTS IN THE PLANNING BOARD UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES WHATSOEVER, TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, UNLESS SOMEBODY WANTS TO PICK UP THE PLANNING BOARD HAS NOT BEEN BULLIED BY THIS, BY THIS APPLICANT OR THEIR COMPANY OR ANYBODY. SO IF THERE'S ANY BULLYING GOING ON, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO REACH OUT TO ME. YOU CAN REACH OUT TO ME THROUGH JOSH, GIVE ME THAT. GIVE US THE DATES AND TIMES THAT THIS HAPPENED AND WHAT YOU FEEL LIKE, AND WE WILL ADDRESS IT. BUT AS FAR AS THE BOARD BEING BULLIED, THAT HAS NOT. AND I JUST WANT TO AGAIN, DEBUNK THAT, THAT I THINK I HAVE MOST OF MY QUESTIONS ANSWERED AT THIS POINT. AND I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. YOU

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HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. YOU'RE ALLOWED. GO AHEAD. CAN YOU JUST SPEAK TO WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN IF THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY PASSED AWAY OR SOMETHING OF THAT SORT, AND JUST KIND OF TALK TO THAT PIECE OF OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE LEASING THE PROPERTY, BUT I KNOW THAT'S BEEN A QUESTION THAT'S BEEN ASKED BEFORE OF WHAT HAPPENS IF THE OWNER SHOULD UNFORTUNATELY PASS AWAY OR SOMETHING OF THAT SORT, AND WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THAT CASE? YEAH. GOOD QUESTION. AND, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, THE ATTORNEY HERE TONIGHT WHO MIGHT BE ABLE TO SPEAK MORE TO THIS, BUT ESSENTIALLY THE LEASE RUNS WITH THE LAND. SO WHOMEVER WOULD TAKE OR WHOEVER WOULD TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THE LAND, THE LEASE WOULD, WOULD REMAIN THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY RISK OF THE LEASE GOING NULL AND VOID DUE TO CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP. AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION IS, I KNOW THAT YOU SUBMITTED A LETTER THAT YOU GOT FROM DC ABOUT NO IMPACT ON WETLANDS. WE ALSO REVIEWED, I BELIEVE LABELLA PROVIDED A WETLAND REPORT. AND I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR. SO THERE'S NO DC REGULATED WETLANDS ON THE PROPERTY. BUT LABELLA DID MENTION THAT THE POND IS TECHNICALLY CONSIDERED. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. OH, THAT THE THE POND IS WHEN THEY WERE DOING THE THE WETLAND REPORT, THEY BROUGHT UP THE POND AND THERE'S A STREAM OR THERE'S A LITTLE STREAM THAT RUNS THROUGH KIND OF LIKE THE CENTER OF THE PROPERTY. ISH. CORRECT. I'M TRYING TO THINK IF YOU HAVE AN IMAGE THAT SHOWS IT IN THE IN THE PLAN DOCS. SO THE LANDOWNER BUILT A KIND OF A SERIES OF, OF SHALLOW DITCHES OR THERE'S KIND OF TWO OF THEM, REALLY THE DRAINAGE OF THE SITE. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE ON THIS IMAGE ACTUALLY. JOSH IT STARTS IN KIND OF THE NORTHWEST CORNER AND THEN IT CUTS EAST, AND THEN IT HITS THAT KIND OF ROAD THAT COMES THROUGH THE CENTER. HE HAS A TWO TRACK THROUGH THE CENTER OF THE PARCEL, AND IT PARALLELS THAT. AND THEN IT RIGHT WHERE IT KIND OF YOU CAN SEE A LINE THAT KIND OF CUTS THROUGH ABOUT THE MIDDLE OF THE PARCEL A LITTLE BIT SOUTH. IT THEN SWINGS FURTHER EAST AND ANOTHER DITCH COMES IN FROM THE EAST. THEN IT GOES TO THE EASTERN EDGE AND DRAINS DOWN TO THAT POND. YES. SO HE BUILT THOSE DITCHES YEARS AGO TO JUST MORE ADEQUATELY DRAIN THE PARCEL AND THEY DRAIN INTO THAT POND. BUT YOU'RE CORRECT.

BELLA'S WETLAND DELINEATION. AND KELLY IS HERE TO SPEAK TO THAT IF I SAY ANYTHING WRONG.

KELLY, IF YOU HAVE MORE DETAILED QUESTIONS FOR HER THERE WHAT'S THE TERM OFTEN USED IS EMERGENT WETLANDS. SO THEY KIND OF LIKE LOOK LIKE A DUCK QUACK LIKE A DUCK. THEY LOOK LIKE WETLANDS. THEY HAVE WETLAND TYPE FOLIAGE IN THEM. AND SOME SOIL CHARACTERISTICS OF THAT. SO BELLA FOUND THAT IN THEIR DELINEATION. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE MANY DILIGENCE THINGS WE DO. SO WE SUBMIT THAT TO THE STATE AND WE SAY, HEY DC, THIS IS WHAT OUR CONSULTANT FOUND ON THE PARCEL. DO YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE? BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE STATE AND FEDERAL WETLAND MAPS ARE KIND OF NOTORIOUSLY OUT OF DATE. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IT ACTUALLY DELINEATES THE POND THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED ON THE NEIGHBOR'S PARCEL TO THE EAST AS A WETLAND, AS A AS A REGULATED WETLAND. BUT DEC CAME BACK AND SAID, NO, THE, THE WETLANDS ON YOUR SITE ARE NOT DEC REGULATED. SO THEY'RE NOT STATE JURISDICTIONAL. THEY'RE NON-JURISDICTIONAL WETLANDS.

OKAY. AND THEN MY MY FINAL QUESTION IS, SO IN MY LINE OF WORK, I'VE REVIEWED A NUMBER OF SOLAR PROJECTS. SO I'VE EXPERIENCED UNDERSTANDING DIFFERENT SOLAR LAWS. I GUESS A REQUEST OR AN ASK THAT I WOULD HAVE IS I SEE THE VISUAL RENDERINGS, AND I THINK THEY DO A DECENT JOB OF SHOWING THE PRE AND THE POST. IF THERE'S ANY LIKELIHOOD THAT YOU CAN JUST DO A MORE ROBUST. I THINK WHAT WILL HELP SOME OF THE HOMEOWNERS IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE VISUAL RENDERINGS, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE, YOU KNOW, AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THEY POTENTIALLY WOULD SEE. BUT I THINK IF SOME OF THESE VISUAL RENDERINGS COULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE ROBUST, MAYBE EVEN TAKING MORE PICTURES, GOING OUT THERE, DOING A COUPLE MORE SITE VISITS AND REALLY KIND OF SHOWING BECAUSE I THINK THE BIGGEST QUESTION THAT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HEAR, ESPECIALLY DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING COMPONENT, IS WHEN I LOOK OUT MY WINDOW, WHAT AM I GOING TO SEE? AND I THINK THIS DOES AN OKAY JOB OF KIND OF SHOWING, YOU KNOW, THE EXISTING CONDITIONS. AND I KNOW THAT OBVIOUSLY IT SHOWS WHAT THE SOLAR PROJECT WOULD LOOK LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT FIRST GOES IN. AND THEN AFTER A COUPLE OF YEARS, THEN WHEN THE TREES ARE MORE MATURE, I THINK TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY, IF YOU CAN SHOW LIKE IF I'M, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBOR THAT'S KIND OF IN THAT NORTHWEST CORNER AND I LOOK OUT MY WINDOW, WHAT AM I GOING TO SEE AT TIME OF CONSTRUCTION WHEN IT'S FULLY UP? TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS, FIVE YEARS, TEN YEARS. AND KIND OF JUST SEEING IF THAT CAN BE JUST MORE ROBUST. BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S GOING TO HELP JUST ORIENT PEOPLE TO WHAT THEY WOULD BE SEEING, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THE BIGGEST QUESTIONS THAT WILL BE ASKED AT THAT PUBLIC HEARING, FOR SURE. SURE. I GUESS THIS IS A JUST AS A TO MAKE THE BOARD AWARE. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SOME NEIGHBORS AND YOU'VE SPOKEN WITH THEM. WE SPOKE WITH THEM THAT HAVE SOME NEGATIVE FEELINGS ABOUT THE PROJECT, AND WE RESPECT THAT AND UNDERSTAND THAT SORRY, YOUR MICROPHONE, WE'D HAVE TO WE NEED TO GET ACCESS TO THEIR PROPERTY. SO WE'LL CONTACT THESE LANDOWNERS HAVE TO BE WILLING TO LET US ONTO THEIR PROPERTY TO TAKE PHOTOS, TO DO VISUAL SIMS. SO GIVEN SOME OF THE NEGATIVE ATTITUDES, SOME LANDOWNERS MIGHT SAY NO, BUT WE'LL TRY TO REACH OUT TO ALL THE LANDOWNERS THAT ARE ADJACENT AND SEE WHICH ONES WILL LET US ON THEIR PROPERTY TO TAKE THOSE THOSE PHOTOS.

WELL, HOPEFULLY A POSITIVE ATTITUDE TO MOVE FORWARD SO WE CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER AND GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS IS GOOD. THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I WANTED TO, JOSH, THANK YOU FOR

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PUTTING THIS PICTURE UP. THOSE TREES THAT ARE UP THERE, THOSE ARE NOT ON THE PROJECT SITE, CORRECT? CORRECT. THOSE TREES ARE NOT ON THE PROJECT SITE. I'M GOING TO SAY IT A THIRD TIME. THOSE TREES ARE NOT ON THE PROJECT SITE. WHY AM I SAYING THAT? BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT COMING DOWN. CORRECT. AND THEY'RE GOING TO PROTECT THEY'RE GOING TO ADD TO THE PROTECTION MOVING FORWARD. CORRECT. SO I JUST WANT TO BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S HARD. WE DO THIS ALL THE TIME AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THE MAPS AND THE, AND THE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY 150 PAGES THAT WE GO THROUGH IN LETTERS FROM THE RESIDENTS. AND YOU HAVE TO DECIPHER WHAT. BUT AND THEY'RE SITTING BACK IN THE AUDIENCE LOOKING AT A SCREEN GOING, OH MY GOSH, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? AND I GET THAT. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE CLARIFY WHAT'S NOT BEING DESTROYED, WHAT'S NOT BEING DAMAGED, WHAT'S GOING TO BE PROTECTED. AND IF THE IF THE NEIGHBORS OUT THERE ARE GOING TO WILL WORK WITH YOU AND YOU CAN PROVIDE US PICTURES THAT'S GOING TO HELP THIS BOARD IN THIS CASE. OKAY, SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY ABOUT THE TREES. IT'S A MATTER OF FACT, YOU'RE NOT TAKING ANY TREES DOWN ON YOUR PROJECT, IF I MAY. YEAH, WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT. THE PROJECT DOESN'T INVOLVE CUTTING DOWN ANY TREES. CORRECT. WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT IN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG RIGHT NOW. SO I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. DID I STIR? WHO WHO SAID I DO? DID SOMEBODY OH, REMEMBER KIMURA'S GOT ANOTHER QUESTION. MEMBER SHIMURA. SO LOOKING AT THE FACT THAT ALTHOUGH THE ROAD IS YOUR PROPERTY LINE, RIGHT, WE STILL HAVE THE PERMANENT EASEMENT FOR THE ACCESS FOR THOSE TWO RESIDENTS. I WOULD SAY THAT FOR RESIDENTS THAT THAT ROAD I WOULD ASK FOR THE SETBACK TO BE 50FT FROM THE EDGE OF THAT ROAD, AND THAT LANDSCAPING SHOULD ALSO RUN ALONG THAT ACCESS ROAD, BECAUSE IT IS ALSO THE DAY TO DAY, YOU KNOW, VISUAL PIECE THAT THEY DRIVE BY MULTIPLE TIMES AND SO FORTH. AND SO THAT IF THAT MEANS IT NEEDS, THE PROJECT NEEDS TO BE CUT BACK IN ORDER TO MAKE THOSE ACCOMMODATIONS SO THAT AS CHAIRMAN GRONINGEN HAS SAID, YOU DO NOT SEE THESE SOLAR PANELS AND THAT THE ADEQUATE BUFFERING FROM ALL OF YOUR SURROUNDING RESIDENTS IS BEING ADDRESSED. THE OTHER POINT THAT THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS YOU HAD MENTIONED WITH RESPECT TO SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, FINANCIAL IMPACTS THAT BY VIRTUE OF THIS POWER GENERATION AND THAT IT SAYS, WHICH IS ENOUGH TO POWER 575 HAMBURG AREA HOMES EACH YEAR. BUT YET THERE'S ALSO IN THE PRESENTATION, IT'S CONSIDERED A COMMUNITY SOLAR PROJECT WHERE YOU HAVE TO APPLY IN ORDER TO REAP BENEFITS AND SO FORTH. SO I GUESS I'M JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED AS TO BY THE PRODUCTION OF THIS POWER. AND I DON'T GET ME WRONG, I'M VERY MUCH FOR, YOU KNOW, GREEN POWER SOLUTIONS AND SO FORTH. BUT WHAT IS THE IMPACT TO THE HAMBURG RESIDENTS WITH RESPECT TO THE COST OF OUR POWER AND ANY SORT OF COMMUNITY BENEFITS WHICH COULD BE CONSIDERED WITHIN THIS POTENTIAL HOST AGREEMENT? SURE. SO A COMMUNITY SOLAR PROJECT IS MORE JUST KIND OF A TERM THESE DAYS, A CLASSIFIED TYPE OF PROJECT. AND THE TYPE OF WHAT WE CALL OFF TAKE, LIKE WHO'S ACTUALLY GOING TO TAKE THE POWER IT GENERATES. AND AGAIN, IN NEW YORK, THE STATE HAS PRETTY ROBUST CRITERIA OF WHAT THAT IS, INCLUDING THAT IT JUST HAS TO BE THAT IT'S OFFERED. ESSENTIALLY, COMMUNITY SOLAR IS OFFERED FOR PEOPLE LIKE RENTERS OR, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT CAN'T PUT PANELS ON THEIR ROOFS OR IN THEIR YARD, BUT THEY DO WANT TO PARTAKE IN SOLAR ENERGY OR WIND ENERGY, FOR EXAMPLE, MOSTLY SOLAR ENERGY, THOUGH. AND SO THEY CAN SUBSCRIBE TO RECEIVE THEIR POWER FROM THAT PROJECT. BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND TOO, JUST HOW POWER GENERATION WORKS IN GENERAL THAT, YOU KNOW, ONCE AN ELECTRON IS GENERATED, BE IT FROM COAL OR HYDROPOWER OR SOLAR, ONCE IT'S ON THE GRID, IT'S INDISTINGUISHABLE FROM EVERY OTHER ELECTRON. SO WE CAN WE CAN SAY THAT THIS PROJECT GENERATES THIS MUCH ENERGY, BUT ONCE IT'S ON THE GRID AND IT'S INTERMIXED WITH ALL THE OTHER POWER THAT'S PRODUCED FROM ALL THE OTHER TYPES OF GENERATORS IN THE AREA, WE CAN'T REALLY SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS ELECTRON GENERATED AT THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO BE CONSUMED BY YOU AND YOUR RESIDENTS, FOR EXAMPLE. BUT WE CAN SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE A DROP OF WATER IN A LAKE OR SOMETHING, BUT IT ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTES TO THE OVERALL LAKE. BUT YOU CAN'T DISTINGUISH ONE DROP FROM THE OTHER. AND THE 575 HOMES. THAT'S JUST WE USE VARIOUS KIND OF METRICS OUT THERE, INCLUDING THE EPA AND SOME STATE OF NEW YORK HAS SOME GOOD RESOURCES ON THIS WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW WHAT THE SITE'S GOING TO GENERATE THROUGH OUR MODELING.

AND THAT'S THE 3.9 MILLION KILOWATT HOURS PER YEAR. AND THEN YOU CAN THERE'S VARIOUS DATA OUT THERE THAT SHOWS WHAT IS THE MEDIAN USE OF ENERGY IN THIS AREA. YOU KNOW, THIS AREA OF WESTERN NEW YORK BOTH SUMMER AND WINTER. AND THEN IT JUST SAYS, OKAY, WITH THIS MUCH ENERGY GENERATED AND THE TYPICAL ENERGY USE OF A HOME IN THIS AREA, YOU CAN GET IT. THAT

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WAS ENOUGH TO POWER ABOUT 575 HOMES. SO YOU CAN THINK OF IT THIS WAY TOO. THAT'S, YOU KNOW, 575 HOMES THAT, YOU KNOW, AREN'T PUTTING SOLAR PANELS IN THEIR YARDS OR ON THEIR ROOFS, BUT YOU KIND OF HAVE IT CONCENTRATED IN THIS AREA. THAT'S THEN POWERING HOMES AGAIN ON THE LOCAL GRID FOR THE HAMBURG AREA FOR IN ISAC TERRITORY. I UNDERSTAND HOW LIKE WITH THE GENERATION OF THE POWER THAT IT'S THEN BLENDED WITHIN THE GRID AND THAT THERE'S A METRIC TO BE ABLE TO QUANTIFY WHAT'S BEING PRODUCED FROM, YOU KNOW, THIS INSTALLATION AND SO FORTH. AND YES, THE IDEA THAT LIKE TO GIVE RELATIONSHIP THAT IT'S 575 HOMES AND SO FORTH, BUT I GUESS IT WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, HOW WOULD OUR COMMUNITY BE ABLE TO DIRECTLY BENEFIT FROM THIS INSTALLATION AND THE AND THIS GENERATION, YOU KNOW, AND THE SUBSCRIPTION THAT YOU HAD DESCRIBED ABOUT HOW YOU'RE ABLE TO GAIN ACCESS TO THE FACT THAT MY COMMUNITY IS NOW PRODUCING THIS, YOU KNOW, UTILITY. AND SO THERE SHOULD BE A BENEFIT. AND WE ALL KNOW THAT ENERGY BILLS ARE GOING UP. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS IS GOING TO TRULY BENEFIT OUR COMMUNITY. SURE. I MEAN, IDEALLY IT'S MORE GENERATION, RIGHT? SO THERE'S NOW ADDITIONAL GENERATION ON THIS GRID. SO THERE'S MORE POWER THAT'S AVAILABLE TO BE CONSUMED BY HOMES, BUSINESSES, SCHOOLS WITHIN THEIR SERVICE TERRITORY. SO THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF THE SHORT ANSWER OF IT. AND SO THERE'S MORE POWER. THAT'S MORE RENEWABLE POWER. GREEN POWER, SUSTAINABLE POWER, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, EMISSION FREE POWER. THAT'S, YOU KNOW, NOT A THERMAL GENERATOR PLANT THAT'S BURNING, YOU KNOW, COAL, NATURAL GAS, ETC. IT IS SMALL TO YOUR POINT, BUT, YOU KNOW, EVERY, EVERY BIT HELPS. I MEAN, LIKE I SHOWED ON THE MAP, I MEAN, NEW YORK CAPS THESE PROJECTS OF FIVE MEGAWATTS. SO ABOUT HALF THAT SIZE, YOU COULD SAY. BUT YOU KNOW, LIKE I'VE SHOWN THE SLIDE THAT'S 60MW ALMOST WE'VE INSTALLED AROUND THE STATE. SO THIS WILL BE TWO MORE KIND OF ON THAT LIST. SO, YOU KNOW, EVERY BIT OF GENERATION HELPS. AND I GUESS ANOTHER WAY IS TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. WHAT IS THE BENEFIT? YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT.

I HAD SOME THINGS ON THE SLIDE OF THE POTENTIAL FOR A PILOT PAYMENT. SO A PAYMENT IN LIEU OF TAXES AGREEMENT, POTENTIAL FOR A HOST COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT. SO THAT MONEY WOULD GO TO THE COUNTY AND THE TOWN TO USE AS THEY SEE FIT, IF THAT, YOU KNOW, INVOLVES, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING FROM ROADS TO SCHOOLS OR WHATEVER IT IS, YOU KNOW, BY THE AGREEMENT WE HAVE WITH THE LANDOWNER AS WELL, ANY INCREASES IN THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY BASED ON OUR IMPROVEMENTS ARE PAID BY US. SO LET'S SAY THE PROPERTY IS VALUED AT X PER ASSESSMENT TODAY AND IT'S VALUED. THE VALUE COULD GO TO Y ONCE THE PROJECT IS BUILT. ANY THAT Y THAT DELTA, THAT INCREASE WOULD BE COVERED BY THE OWNER SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ADDITIONAL PROPERTY TAX REVENUE POTENTIALLY GOING INTO THE TO THE TOWN AS WELL INTO THE COUNTY. SO YEAH, I THINK THOSE ARE SOME, SOME EXAMPLES OF SOME OF THE BENEFITS. AND I GUESS I WOULD SAY TOO ON THE SLIDE, I MEAN, THE TOWN DOES HAVE SOME COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOCUMENTS.

THE COUNTY HAS SOME KIND OF GUIDING DOCUMENTS THAT MENTION THINGS LIKE THIS OF, OF MOVING TOWARDS A MORE DECARBONIZED ELECTRIC GRID TO REVITALIZE IT AND INFRASTRUCTURE TO PROMOTING MORE MIXED USE. SO I THINK THIS IS, YOU KNOW, ONE EXAMPLE OF HOW THAT COULD LOOK WITHIN THE TOWN. THANK YOU. SO MY QUESTION TO YOU, JOSH, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT COMES TO THE TIME OF THE THIS BOARD MAKING A DECISION WHETHER OR NOT TO RECOMMEND A COMMUNITY HOST AGREEMENT, WHAT DOES THAT PROCESS LOOK LIKE WITH RESPECT TO THE DRAFTING OF THE AGREEMENT? WE DON'T DO IT. IT'S NOT FROM US. IT'LL BE FROM THE TOWN BOARD, RIGHT? NO, I KNOW, BUT I'M JUST ASKING, WHAT IS THAT PROCESS? I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT WITHIN HERE. NOT WITHIN. HOW DOES HOW DOES HOW DO THE TERMS GET DRAFTED? TYPICALLY IN A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES THAT I'VE WORKED WITH PREVIOUSLY, THEIR TOWN ATTORNEY AND THEIR LEGAL DEPARTMENT WILL GET IN CONTACT WITH THE ATTORNEYS OF SAID DEVELOPER AND HAMMER IT OUT IN LEGALESE THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND. SO THAT'S TYPICALLY HOW IT'LL WORK. AND THEN LIKE I SAID, THE KEY POINT IS THAT UNTIL IF THE TOWN BOARD DOES TAKE YOUR RECOMMENDATION AND ENTER, WANT TO ENTER INTO A HOST COMMUNITY AGREEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPER, THIS BOARD CANNOT ACT ON A SPECIAL USE PERMIT UNTIL THAT AGREEMENT IS FINALIZED. SO THAT'S A THAT'S A STOPGAP. YOU KNOW, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IN THIS REVIEW PROCESS THAT IF THE TOWN BOARD DOES DECIDE TO DO SO, THEN WE CAN'T ACT ON IT. AND LIKE I SAID, HOW LONG IT'LL TAKE, WHO KNOWS, IT'LL BE BETWEEN. I'M SURE JOE WILL PROBABLY BE A PART OF IT AND OUR TOWN ATTORNEY AND OUR DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEYS AND THE REPRESENTATION FOR THE APPLICANT, AND THEY'LL HAMMER IT OUT. AND SO THEN WITH OUR, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDATION TO THE TOWN BOARD, IS THERE AN AVENUE OR A PART OF OUR RECOMMENDATION WHERE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE PILOT PAYMENTS, WHERE THERE ARE ITEMS OF PRECEDENT, COMMUNITY HOST AGREEMENTS THAT WE WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST CAN BE INCLUDED WITHIN OUR RECOMMENDATION. SO OUR CODE IS WRITTEN IS THAT IT'S REALLY NOT

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A RECOMMENDATION. WE KIND OF JUST HAVE THE ABILITY TO FORWARD THE APPLICATION AND FORWARD THE PROJECT TO THE TOWN BOARD. SO IT'S NOT REALLY A FAVORABLE OR AGAINST RECOMMENDATION. THAT'S DEFINITELY COMMENTS THAT YOU CAN PROVIDE TO THE TOWN BOARD THAT THEY CAN TAKE UNDER ADVISEMENT. BUT WE'RE NOT REALLY GIVING A RECOMMENDATION.

WHAT OUR PURPOSE IS AND WHAT'S WRITTEN IN THE CODE IS THAT WE CAN JUST FORWARD IT ON. AND IF THE TOWN BOARD DOES AGREE TO GO INTO THAT AGREEMENT, THEN WE HAVE DIRECTIVES. IF THEY DON'T, THEN WE JUST CONTINUE WITH THE REVIEW OF THE PROCESS. OKAY, THANKS. NO PROBLEM. I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION. I'M BACK. WHAT IF THIS PROJECT. WHAT IF THE COMPANY THAT'S SPONSORING THIS PROJECT GOES BANKRUPT? YEAH. GREAT QUESTION. WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT EQUIPMENT AND ALL OF THAT? SO PER YOUR ORDINANCE, WHICH IS AGAIN, KIND OF MODELED ON THE STATE STANDARD ORDINANCE, WE WILL POST THE DECOMMISSIONING BOND. AND IF THE PROVISIONS REMEMBER OFFHAND WHAT KICKS THAT IN IS IF THE PROJECT STOPS GENERATING FOR I BELIEVE IT'S LIKE, I THINK IT'S 12 MONTHS, I THINK, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO IF THE, IF THE PROJECT DOESN'T PRODUCE AT LEAST 50% CAPACITY FOR AT LEAST SIX MONTHS OVER A ONE YEAR PERIOD, THEN IT'S AT THE OWNER'S EXPENSE TO TAKE DOWN ALL THE MATERIALS, SO ON AND SO FORTH. YEAH, KICK TO US TO REMOVE.

THANKS, JOSH. AND BUT IF WE'RE DEFUNCT, WHICH I HOPE NOT BECAUSE I'D BE OUT OF A JOB.

AND AGAIN, WE'RE A PRETTY BIG COMPANY, BUT AROUND FOR A WHILE, BUT WE POST A BOND WITH YOU AND THAT'S BASED AND THAT'S IN THE DECOMMISSIONING PLAN, THAT AMOUNT THAT WAS ESTIMATED OFF THE STATE MODEL. AND THEN YOU CAN CALL THAT BOND AND ESSENTIALLY DECOMMISSION THE PROJECT. I THINK THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT POINT TO TO BRING OUT. OKAY, I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS. AND THIS IS NOT LIKE WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE TO THE TOWN BOARD. THIS IS TOTALLY SOMETHING DIFFERENT AT THIS POINT. ALL OF DOES ANYBODY ELSE FROM THE PLANNING BOARD HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TO ASK? I DON'T THINK SO. SO AT THIS POINT. SO WHERE WE ARE IS. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S ALSO IN THE ORDINANCE IS BEFORE SENDING IT TO THE TOWN BOARD, WHAT THIS BOARD IS SUPPOSED TO DO IS CHECK FOR THE COMPLETENESS OF THE APPLICATION MATERIALS, AND IT DOESN'T GET SENT TO THE TOWN BOARD UNTIL THIS BOARD FEELS THAT THE APPLICANT HAS SUFFICED AND COMPLETED ALL THE APPLICATION MATERIALS. DOES THIS BOARD FEEL THAT? I THINK FROM MY RECOMMENDATION THAT THE THEY SUBMITTED THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION. THEY'VE SUBMITTED THE FULL SITE PLAN APPLICATION. THERE ARE ADDITIONAL TWEAKS THAT WE'VE ASKED FOR, BUT IF WE DON'T. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT'S COMPLETE, THEN WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL YOU KNOW, IN THE NEXT THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, WHENEVER YOU DECIDE TO TABLE IT. AND THEN WE CAN START, YOU KNOW, REFERRING IT TO THE TOWN BOARD.

IF YOU BELIEVE IT'S COMPLETE AT THIS TIME, WE CAN AT LEAST SEND IT TO THE TOWN BOARD. I CAN START THE 239 REFERRAL, I CAN START THE COORDINATED REVIEW. AND THEN THAT'LL ALSO GIVE THE APPLICANT TIME TO WORK ON SOME OF THE MATERIALS, THE SMALL MATERIALS, THE VISUAL, YOU KNOW, THE LANDSCAPING, LOOK INTO ALL THOSE THINGS AND THEN THEY CAN COME BACK WHENEVER YOU DECIDE TO TABLE IT. BUT THAT'S A DECISION THAT THIS BOARD HAS TO MAKE, WHETHER YOU WANT IT TO DEEM IT COMPLETE WITH NO ADDITIONAL MATERIALS TO BE SUBMITTED, OR IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT NOT COMPLETE, AND WAIT FOR AN ADDITIONAL MEETING TO START THE PROCESS OF COORDINATED REVIEW IN. 239 REFERRAL. WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE BOARD, SINCE I RECOMMENDED A MARKET ANALYSIS, HOW DO HOW DOES THE BOARD FEEL ABOUT. HOW IMPORTANT DO YOU THINK THAT IS TO FORWARD THROUGH BEING THAT THAT WAS A CONCERN OF THE RESIDENTS MEMBER CLARK ULTIMATELY REFER IT TO JOE, BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT PROPERTY VALUES ARE NOT SOMETHING THAT THE PLANNING BOARD CAN CONSIDER. SO WHILE WE WANT TO HAVE THAT MARKET ANALYSIS TO KNOW ABOUT IT, I DON'T THINK WE'D BE ABLE TO SAY THAT THEIR APPLICATION IS INCOMPLETE WITHOUT IT BECAUSE IT'D BE IT'S NOT STUFF THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO CONSIDER WHEN MAKING OUR DECISION ON THE SITE PLAN. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? MEMBER SHIMURA. SO IF WE HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING TO FILL IN, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE SEEING AS GAPS, ALTHOUGH, YOU KNOW, THE ARGUMENT IS THAT THERE'S EXISTING AND THAT, YOU KNOW, WANTING REQUESTING THE LINE OF THE FENCE BEING PUSHED BACK AND ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING ALONG THAT EASEMENT. RIGHT? THOSE CHANGES WE'D WANT TO SEE BEFORE PUSHING FORWARD ONTO THE I'M ASKING THE QUESTION, PUSHING FORWARD TO THE TOWN BOARD BECAUSE. RIGHT. ISN'T IT IF WE'RE PUSHING FORWARD TO THE TOWN BOARD, IT SAYS, THOUGH, THAT THERE IS SOME ACCEPTANCE OF THE PROJECT. IT'S JUST THAT THIS IS LIKE GENERALLY THE PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY US, RIGHT? YEAH. RIGHT. NOW WHAT YOUR DECISION BY SAYING THAT THIS APPLICATION IS COMPLETE IS YOU'RE NOT SAYING YAY OR NAY. YOU'RE JUST SAYING THAT THEY HAVE SUBMITTED TO YOUR TO YOUR SATISFACTION WHAT'S BEEN REQUIRED. AND LIKE I SAID, SMALL TWEAKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING, ADDITIONAL RENDERINGS, THIS BOARD CAN DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THAT MEETS THE APPLICATION BEING COMPLETE, BUT SENDING IT ALONG TO THE TOWN BOARD AT THIS

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POINT IS NOT A THUMBS UP OR A THUMBS DOWN. IT'S JUST SAYING WE DEEM IT TO BE COMPLETE.

WE'RE READY TO START THE REVIEW PROCESS FROM, LIKE I SAID, SEEKER, ERIE COUNTY, SO ON AND SO FORTH. I THINK THE LANDSCAPING SHOULD BE WELL, IT. REMEMBER, CLARK, THE THINGS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR ARE SIMILAR TO THINGS THAT WE ASKED FOR AFTER PUBLIC HEARINGS. AND BEFORE WE EVEN HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING, WE GENERALLY SAY THAT THE APPLICATION HAD THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF DOCUMENTS TO GET THAT FAR RIGHT. BUT MY UNDERSTANDING OF THIS PROCESS, WE WOULD HAVE TO SEND IT TO THE TOWN BOARD BEFORE WE CAN EVEN DO THE PUBLIC HEARING. CORRECT. SO WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO EVEN CHANGE IT EVEN FURTHER AFTER THAT, AFTER HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING. SO I WOULD THINK THAT WE'VE GOT THE BEGINNING STAGES TO GO AND DO THE COORDINATED REVIEW AND DO THE STEPS WE NORMALLY WOULD DO. OKAY. AND THESE OTHER THINGS THAT WE ASKED FOR ARE WE ASKED FOR THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. SO I DON'T THINK WE COULD SAY THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TO START THE PROCESS. SURE. I AGREE THAT WE HAVE THE CONTENT THAT'S REQUIRED IN ORDER TO START THE REVIEWS AND THAT AS PART OF OUR TYPICAL PROCESS, THERE ARE STILL OPPORTUNITIES FOR ADDITIONAL REQUESTS OF INFORMATION, ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, ANALYSIS TO BE REQUESTED AND SO FORTH. BUT WE CAN'T ASK THOSE QUESTIONS BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DONE THE ANALYSIS YET UNTIL WE START THE PROCESS. RIGHT? CORRECT. SO I WOULD THEN SAY THAT I AGREE THAT THE APPLICATION IS COMPLETE. BOARD MEMBERS, IS EVERYBODY IN AGREEMENT? YES I AGREE, YES I AGREE, I AGREE. OKAY, SO JUST TO RECAP FOR THE AUDIENCE FOR THE APPLICANT, FOR THE RECORD, I'M GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO FORWARD THIS APPLICATION AND FOR THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK WITH THE TOWN BOARD. AND THE TOWN BOARD WILL BE THE ENTITY TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THEY ENTER AN HOST COMMUNITY AGREEMENT. THAT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR BOUNDS. WHAT I WILL DO AS THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS I WILL SUBMIT THE 239 REFERRAL TO THE COUNTY, AND I WILL SUBMIT THE SECRET COORDINATED REVIEW, WHICH GOES TO ALL THE STATE AGENCIES, AND WE'LL START THAT 30 DAY WINDOW OF GETTING COMMENTS ON THE PROJECT. OKAY.

WHEN DO YOU WANT TO TABLE THE PROJECT TO WHEN'S THE TOWN BOARD MEETING? WHEN WILL THIS BE GOING TO THE TOWN BOARD? SO THE NEXT TOWN BOARD MEETING IS ON MAY 23RD, BUT THERE'S NO RESOLUTION. OH, SORRY, MARCH 23RD. THERE'S NO RESOLUTION. THERE OBVIOUSLY IS NO RESOLUTION OR ANYTHING ON THE TOWN BOARD AGENDA FOR THIS PROJECT. SO THE NEXT TOWN BOARD MEETING, I THINK IS APRIL. SIXTH. THE TOWN BOARD HAVE TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS.

NO, I DON'T THINK IT'S CLARIFIED THAT THEY NEED TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING. NO, NO.

BUT THEY ATTORNEY JOSEPH KOGAN, BUT THEY'RE STILL GONNA HAVE TO FOLLOW OPEN MEETING LAW WITH DELIBERATIONS ON THE RECORD. THEY'RE STILL GONNA HAVE TO PASS A RESOLUTION. ANY DISCUSSIONS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE DONE BETWEEN THE LEGAL ENTITIES OF OF THE TOWN AND THE APPLICANT, AND THEN GET THAT APPROVED BY THE TOWN BOARD AS WELL. SO IT COULD BE A FEW WEEKS. SO BUT WHEN I UNDERESTIMATING THAT, YES, THAT DOESN'T PREVENT. SO IT BEING BEFORE THE TOWN BOARD. SO WHEN I SAY ACT ON THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, WE JUST CAN'T MAKE AN APPROVAL DECISION. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE APPLICANT CAN'T BE TABLED TO COME BACK AND DISCUSS THE PROJECT. ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION. WHEN THE SECRET COORDINATOR REVIEW COMMENTS COME BACK, IT DOESN'T PREVENT US FROM DISCUSSING IT AND TALKING ABOUT IT. WE JUST CAN'T GIVE AN APPROVAL DECISION ON THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT. AND THAT'S A 30 DAY WINDOW, RIGHT? FOR THE TOWN BOARD, A MINIMUM 30 DAY WINDOW FOR THE FOR THEIR REVIEW OR FOR THE SECRET REVIEW.

FOR A SEEKER, IT'S AT LEAST A MINIMUM OF 30 DAYS. YES. SEE, I'M WORRIED ABOUT US STARTING SEEKER AND THE TOWN BOARD NOT GETTING THE AGREEMENT RESOLVED WITHIN 30 DAYS IF WE START SEEKER NOW, BECAUSE EVEN IF WE START SEEKER, WE GOT TO ACT UPON IT AFTER SO MANY DAYS.

CORRECT. AND IF WE CAN'T ACT, IF WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING UNTIL THE TOWN BOARD DOES SOMETHING, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD TABLE THIS UNTIL THE TOWN BOARD MAKES A DECISION ON THE HOST AGREEMENT, I, I WOULDN'T AGREE WITH THAT JUST BECAUSE I THINK TABLING IT, BECAUSE WE, WE LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT'LL TAKE FOR THE TOWN BOARD TO HAVE THEIR ATTORNEYS AND THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO ALL COME TOGETHER. THE. I WANT TO BE CLEAR, THE THE HOST COMMUNITY AGREEMENT DOESN'T HAVE MUCH BEARING ON SEEKER, WHETHER THAT'S REVIEWING THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS. NO, NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS THAT ALL OF THIS COULD GO THROUGH. AND IF THE TOWN BOARD DOESN'T DO THE HOST AGREEMENT, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG IS THAT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING UNTIL THE HOST AGREEMENT IS DONE. WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T WE CANNOT APPROVE THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT UNTIL THE HOST COMMUNITY AGREEMENT IS DONE. THEN WE END UP TABLING IT UNTIL THE TOWN.

BUT WE CAN DO SEEKER, WE CAN DO SEEKER, WE CAN DO SEEKER, BUT WE CAN'T ACT ON THAT.

SPECIFICALLY SAYS WE CANNOT ACT ON THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT. CAN WE HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING? IT DOESN'T SAY THAT WE CAN'T. IF WE IF WE CAN DO SEEKER, WE HAVE TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING, RIGHT?

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SO I MEAN, USUALLY WE DO ALL OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME, BUT I SEE WHAT JOSH IS SAYING. WE COULD WE CAN. MEETING AFTER THE APRIL 6TH MEETING. SURE. WE HAVE WE HAVE A WE HAVE A APRIL 1ST AND A APRIL 15TH MEETING. IF WE TABLE IT TO APRIL 15TH, THAT ALSO WILL BE VERY CLOSE TO THAT 30 DAY WINDOW OF GETTING COMMENTS. ANYWAYS, WE WILL PROBABLY GET A NUMBER OF COMMENTS, SO THERE WILL BE THINGS TO DISCUSS AND I WOULD HOPE BY APRIL 15TH THAT THE APPLICANT HAS SOME MATERIALS THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO PRESENT, SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO REVIEW THE PROJECT. LIKE I SAID, WE JUST CANNOT MAKE AN APPROVAL DECISION ON THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT. SPECIFICALLY, WHILE THE TOWN BOARD IS DECIDING ON WHETHER THEY WANT TO DO A HOST COMMUNITY AGREEMENT OR NOT. JOSH, WHAT'S OUR CASELOAD FOR APRIL 1ST RIGHT NOW ON APRIL 1ST, TWO, THREE, FOUR, WE HAVE FOUR PROJECTS. BUT THE TOWN BOARD MEETING IS NOT TILL AFTER THAT, THE TOWN BOARD MEETING WHERE THEY WOULD HAVE IT ON THE 15TH. THEN. RIGHT. WHEN IS THE TOWN BOARD MEETING AGAIN? JOSH? APRIL 6TH, APRIL 6TH. I WOULDN'T DO IT BEFORE THE 15TH, BUT THAT'S JUST ME. SO IT'S JUST IT'S. SO WE MIGHT AS WELL POSTPONE IT UNTIL THE 15TH. I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE. MEETING IN MAY. NOW LET'S DO IT THE 15TH BECAUSE THEN WE CAN AT LEAST START SOME OF THAT STUFF. BUT THERE'S NO POINT AND HAVE AND HAVE SOME SORT OF IDEA OF WHAT THE TOWN, WHERE THE TOWN BOARD IS IN ITS PROCESS, MAYBE. OKAY. AND SO SORRY, JUST TO BE CLEAR. SO THE APRIL 15TH WILL BE THE PUBLIC HEARING OR JUST THE NEXT STEP OF REVIEWING COMMENTS FROM THE TOWN. IT FELT LIKE A TENNIS MATCH THERE FOR A WHILE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE OR A SOCCER GAME, WHICHEVER. YEAH. SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THIS CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE MADE THE RECOMMENDATION OR WE HAVE SAID THAT THE APPLICATION IS COMPLETE AND NOW IT'S GOING TO BE SENT TO THE TOWN BOARD. THE TOWN BOARD'S NOT MEETING UNTIL APRIL 6TH. OKAY. SO THERE'S NO SENSE IN US HAVING YOU COME BACK HERE BEFORE THEN. SO WE'VE WE'RE OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO TABLE IT UNTIL THE 15TH OF APRIL. OKAY. SO YOU'LL COME BACK TO US AND THEN WE CAN MOVE ON FROM THERE. AND AT THAT MEETING, WE WOULD EXPECT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF SOME OF THE TASKS THAT THE PLANNING BOARD HAS TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY TO DO SOME OF THE DRAWINGS, THE VISUAL THINGS THAT I TALKED ABOUT, ANSWERING SOME MORE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT THEY HAD, WHATEVER MATERIALS YOU HAVE PREPARED. AND THEN ON OUR END, WHATEVER SEEKER COMMENTS WE HAVE AT THAT TIME, WE'LL PREPARE. I DON'T THINK THE 30 DAY PERIOD WILL END ON THE 15TH, BUT WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DATE WILL GO OVER. AND THEN I THINK, JOE, YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THE PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE, JOE GOGAN. AND THEN IT GETS TO THE 62 DAY TIME FRAME FROM THE DATE THAT THE APPLICATION IS CONSIDERED COMPLETE. SO IF YOU'RE DECLARING THE APPLICATION IS COMPLETE TODAY, THEN THE PUBLIC HEARING DOESN'T HAVE TO BE UNTIL 62 DAYS FROM TODAY. OKAY. YEAH. WE'RE NOT GONNA WAIT 62 DAYS THOUGH.

PARDON? I SAID, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD WAIT 62 DAYS SO WE CAN KNOW, BUT I'M JUST I IF YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE, THE, THE TOWN GETTING BACK TO YOU WITH A DECISION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, I DON'T THINK IN FACT, I DON'T THINK YOU'D NEED THE FINAL CONTRACT DONE. JUST AS LONG AS YOU HAD A DECISION FROM THE TOWN, YOU'D BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WHETHER THEY WERE GOING TO ENTERTAIN THAT, I DON'T KNOW. ACCORDING TO THIS, IT HAD TO BE. DOES THE AGREEMENT HAVE TO BE COMPLETE OR JUST KNOW THAT THEY'RE ENTERING INTO IT OR NOT? WE CAN GO FORWARD ON THE SEEKER.

I'M CLEAR ON IT'S THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT. WE WOULDN'T BE. WE STILL CAN'T DO IT UNTIL I THINK THE CLOCK ONLY APPLIES TO SEEKER TO SEEKER. RIGHT. SO BUT IN THE ORDINANCE. I THINK IT I THINK IT HAS TO BE THEY HAVE TO ACCEPT IT AND. OUR READ ON IT FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. I MEAN YOU DEFER TO YOU ALL, BUT IT'S THEY HAVE TO DECIDE WITHIN 30 DAYS OF WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT AN HSBA, A HOST COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT. OH, THEY HAVE 30 DAYS TO DECIDE. THAT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING. BUT AGAIN, DEFER TO YOU ALL. SO THEY HAVE 30 DAYS. ONCE YOU REFER TO THEM TO SAY, YES, WE WANT AN AGREEMENT OR NO WE DON'T. OH, OKAY. AND SO THEN ENTER INTO THE AGREEMENT. CORRECT? RIGHT. YES. OKAY. SO IF THEY CAN DO THAT WITHIN 30 DAYS SAYING YES OR NO, AND THEN WE'RE STILL WITHIN OUR TIME LIMIT. OKAY. I'M NOW I'M GOOD. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT, IF THE AGREEMENT HAD TO BE DONE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE DONE SO MANY OF THESE WORK.

RIGHT? EXACTLY. ALL RIGHT. SO ARE YOU CLEAR? YES I AM, THANK YOU. SO WE WILL SEE YOU BACK ON THE 15TH. YES. AND I'M SURE JOSH WILL BE IN TOUCH WITH YOU ABOUT WHAT'S GOING IN FRONT WHEN IT GOES IN FRONT OF THE TOWN BOARD. SO. AND HE'S THE PERSON TO BE IN TOUCH WITH TO THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE WRITTEN TO US. KEEP THE LETTERS COMING. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WROTE, I OPPOSE THIS PROJECT, IF YOU COME UP WITH OTHER THINGS THAT YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT, YOU CAN PLEASE WRITE TO JOSH AGAIN AND ADD THAT THERE'S NO LIMIT. I MEAN, DON'T WRITE US 15 BOOKS, BUT THERE'S THERE'S A LOT. AND THIS IS JUST PART OF WHAT I PRINTED. SO IF YOU HAVE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO ADD TO YOUR

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CONCERNS, BY ALL MEANS, PLEASE DO. OKAY, SO I WANTED TO OPEN THAT. I CAN'T I'M SORRY. I CAN'T ASK ANY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. YOU CAN WAIT UNTIL WE GET DONE. OKAY. SO ARE WE DONE? YEAH. JUST A I WON'T ANSWER HIS QUESTION, BUT TO SEND LETTERS. MY NAME IS JOSH ROGERS. MY NAME IS ON THE TOWN WEBSITE. SO IF YOU GO TO PLANNING PLANNING BOARD, YOU'LL FIND MY EMAIL. I KNOW A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS AT PLEASANT AVE, SO YOU CAN PROBABLY GET MY EMAIL FROM THEM. SO BUT IT'S ON THE TOWN WEBSITE IF YOU NEED IT. IF YOU GO TO THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, NEW YORK. YEP. AND YOU CAN CLICK ON EITHER ABOUT US BOARD'S PLANNING OR YOU CAN CLICK ON DEPARTMENT'S PLANNING DEPARTMENT. MY NAME IS ON BOTH.

YEP. OKAY. THANK YOU GUYS. WE'LL SEE YOU ON THE 15TH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY.

BOARD MEMBERS, DO WE HAVE WE HAVE MINUTES TO REVIEW. WE'LL HAVE THEM FOR APRIL 1ST. OKAY.

YEP. SO WITH THAT, I BELIEVE WE ARE. THERE'S NOTHING FURTHER AT THIS TIME. SO I NEED A MOTION.

I MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. WE MISSED YOU LAST MONTH. REMEMBER, RYAN, I SECOND THE MOTION. IT'S BEEN MOVED. AND SECOND, TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. ALL THO

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

1. Planning Board to discuss various zoning code amendments as presented by the Planning Department

2. Liza Acanfora – Requesting Sketch Plan Direction on a proposal for a childcare center to be located at 4090 Jeffrey Blvd

1. EDF Power Solutions Inc. – Requesting Site Plan and Special Use Permit Approval of a proposal to construct a 2.5 MW Tier 3 solar project on a 17-acre parcel to be located south of East Pleasant Avenue (SBL #: 182.14-2-4.11)

Mar 18, 2026 03-18-2026 PB Meeting

1. Planning Board to discuss various zoning code amendments as presented by the Planning Department

2. Liza Acanfora – Requesting Sketch Plan Direction on a proposal for a childcare center to be located at 4090 Jeffrey Blvd

1. EDF Power Solutions Inc. – Requesting Site Plan and Special Use Permit Approval of a proposal to construct a 2.5 MW Tier 3 solar project on a 17-acre parcel to be located south of East Pleasant Avenue (SBL #: 182.14-2-4.11)

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