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MAY WANT TO HAVE YOUR OWN MIC SO YOU DON'T PASS IT ON TO ANYBODY.YOU MIGHT NEED ANOTHER ONE DOWN THERE.
WHO'S MY SPOKESPERSON? WHAT'S THAT? SAID? YOU'RE MY SPOKESPERSON TODAY.
SO YOU MIGHT NOT NEED A, I I WON'T NEED ONE HAS DOWN.
REMEMBER RYAN SAYS SHE DOESN'T NEED A MIC.
[5. Kevin Wyse – Requesting Site Plan Approval on a proposal for a 400 sq-ft automated coffee shop with a drive-thru pickup and other associated site improvements, to be located on a 0.43-acre vacant parcel at 0 Southwestern Blvd (SBL #: 170.16-4-7)]
THE TECHNICAL, BUT AT LEAST WE'RE UP AND RUNNING NOW.GAVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW MY NOTES HERE.
UM, SO AS I WAS SAYING, UH, I JUST TOUCHED UPON THE TREE SURVEY.
UM, THAT THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT WAS.
UH, THE SECOND POINT, UH, WAS ASKED OF US WAS, UM, UH, QUEUING ANALYSIS.
WE, WE DID DO SOME, UH, PRELIMINARY RESEARCH.
UH, GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE NATIONAL AVERAGE IS COFFEE SHOPS.
THEY GENERALLY LIKE TO HAVE 10 TO 15 SPACES PER, PER, UH, DRIVE THROUGH.
UH, OUR DRIVE QUEUING LANE IS 320 FEET.
THAT MEANS THAT IT EQUALS ABOUT 16 QUEUING SPACES.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, WHAT WE HAVE GOING FOR US IS THE SURFACE SPACES.
WE HAVE FIVE ADDITIONAL SURFACE SPACES TO THE QUEUING.
SO IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T WANNA WAIT IN THE QUEUING, THEY CAN DRIVE UP, AS WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, PARK, UH, WALK UP TO THE WINDOW, GET THEIR COFFEE AND GO.
UM, ALSO BEING AN AUTOMATED COFFEE SHOP, THEY STRIVE FOR A TURNAROUND ANYWHERE FROM 45 TO 60 SECONDS, WHICH IS ABOUT 50% MORE EFFICIENT THAN, UM, THE, THE STANDARD COFFEE SHOP.
SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE WILL GET
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THROUGH THEM TWICE AS FAST.UH, SO WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY ISSUES WITH QUEUING ON THIS SITE.
I GUESS THOSE ARE THE POINTS THAT WAS ASKED OF US AT THAT MEETING.
UM, WE UNDERSTAND THAT TONIGHT WE'RE, WE'RE ASKING FOR, UH, TO SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE NEXT AVAILABLE AGENDA, UH, WHICH WE BELIEVE IS NOVEMBER 4TH.
AND WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IN ADDITION TO THAT.
CAN I ALSO, I'M SORRY, I FORGOT MR. ALEX WEISS IS WITH ME AS WELL.
HE'S THE OWNER AND, UH, DEVELOPER OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE HE'S ON RECORD.
UM, JOSH, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO OFFER? YEAH, UM, LIKE JAKE JUST SAID, UH, YOU OBVIOUSLY SAW THIS AT A SKETCH PLAN LEVEL.
SO THEY CAME FOR CONCEPTUAL SUCH, UH, SKETCH PLAN REVIEW.
UM, FROM A SEEKER PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE THIS IS 400 SQUARE FEET, UM, THIS DEFINITELY IS A TYPE TWO ACTION.
UM, UNLIKE SOME OF SOME OF OUR OTHER KIND OF RETAIL RESTAURANT PROJECTS, I DON'T THINK THIS ONE IS WORTHY OF NEEDING A COORDINATED REVIEW.
I MEAN, IT'S SUCH A SMALL PROJECT, UM, EVEN THOUGH IT IS DIFFERENT THAN SEVEN BREW, WHAT I'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE AND WHAT I HIGHLIGHTED EVEN DURING THE SKETCH PLAN PHASE IS OBVIOUSLY ANYTIME WE HAVE ANY KIND OF, UH, YOU KNOW, AUTOCENTRIC KIND OF USE ONTO A STATE HIGHWAY SYSTEM, UM, AND HE JUST EXPLAINED, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THEIR RATIONALE FOR THE PARKING, THE STACKING, THE QUEUING.
THAT'S OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING THAT I THINK THE BOARD SHOULD CONSIDER.
IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING YOU WANT HIM TO CLARIFY, I THINK NOW IS THE TIME TO ASK.
UM, AND THEN IF THE BOARD IS COMFORTABLE, UM, YOU CAN THEN MOVE FORWARD AND SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, I ALSO JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM IN TERMS OF, UH, COMPARED TO OTHER COFFEE SHOPS FOR THIS ONE SPECIFICALLY, THE UNIQUENESS IS THERE WILL BE NO EMPLOYEES ON THE SITE.
RIGHT? THERE'S NO ONE GONNA BE WORKING.
IT'S ALL AUTOMATED, CORRECT? CORRECT.
THERE WILL BE A A, AN ACTUAL HUMAN THERE.
YOU KNOW, AS NEEDED TO, TO REPLACE, UH, MATERIALS.
AND THEN I THINK THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT THE BOARD HAD TALKED ABOUT DURING THE WORK SESSION, UH, STAGE WAS, UM, IN TERMS OF LIKE DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE, STRIPING OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, JUST MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO KIND OF GET IN AND OUTTA THE SITE, ESPECIALLY.
'CAUSE THERE'S ONLY GONNA BE MAYBE JUST ONE PERSON THERE.
UM, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I HIGHLIGHTED FROM THE LAST TIME THAT YOU CAN OBVIOUSLY, UM, CONTINUE TO ASK QUESTIONS ON.
AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE, YOU CAN SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING.
THAT IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT I DID EARMARK FOR NOVEMBER 4TH FOR OUR PUBLIC AREA.
UM, IF THERE, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN BROUGHT UP OR NOT.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, BUT, UM, THE CURB CUT, IF THERE IS NO CURB CUT, THE, THE, HAS THE CURB CUT BEEN APPROVED JOB? I DON'T BELIEVE.
ARE YOU STILL, ARE YOU, DO YOU NEED, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT DOT FOR? YEAH, WE'LL NEED A CURB CUT FROM THE NEW YORK STATE DOT.
BUT YEAH, I DON'T THINK THEY'VE APPLIED FOR ONE OR HAD A CONVERSATION WITH DOT AT THIS POINT.
SO IF THERE'S NO CURB CUT AGAIN, THIS PROJECT WILL NOT GO THROUGH.
THIS ONE, I, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR DOT, BUT CONSIDERING THERE'S NO OTHER ARTERIAL ACCESS ANYWHERE ELSE ON THE SITE, I DON'T SEE HOW DOT CAN DENY THEM HAVING ACCESS.
BUT LIKE I SAID, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR THEM.
YEAH, WE LEGALLY HAVE THE RIGHT TO, TO ACCESS THE PROPERTY.
THAT'S OUR ONLY POINT OF ACCESS.
I I JUST WANT IT ON THE RECORD SO, YOU KNOW.
UM, SO SOMEBODY ASKED THE QUESTION.
ENGINEERING, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO OFFER? UH, THERE'S NO INITIAL ENGINEERING CONCERNS.
UM, ALTHOUGH IT'S TRUE THAT THEY CANNOT, UH, DENY THEM ACCESS, THEY MIGHT ASK FOR MODIFICATIONS.
WE HAVE SEEN THAT ON OTHER PROJECTS WHERE THEY'VE SLIGHTLY MODIFIED AN ENTRANCE BASED ON DETAILS.
UM, BUT THAT WE WOULD HANDLE AS A MINOR REVISION.
IF THEY NEEDED TO MAKE MINOR ADJUSTMENTS OR IF WE FELT IT WAS MAJOR ENOUGH, WE WOULD BRING IT BACK TO YOU AT THAT TIME.
BUT DOT APPROVAL WOULD BE PART OF A FINAL ENGINEERING REVIEW.
AND BECAUSE OF THE SIZE, THERE IS NOT A STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AREA ON THIS.
UM, SO THERE IS A LITTLE MORE SPACE FOR SNOW STORAGE AND THEY WILL JUST NEED TO HANDLE STANDARD DRAINAGE, UH, CORRECTLY.
BOARD MEMBERS, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, BILL, YOU MAY BE TALKING FROM MEMBER RYAN HERE PRETTY QUICK.
SO MEMBER RYAN, HOW MUCH OF A BUFFER WILL SURROUND THE BUILDING? UM, WE'RE GENERALLY, UH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE TO THE PAVEMENT? MM-HMM
UM, THERE'S ABOUT, UH, 15 FEET.
I THINK IT'S ON THE DESIGN PLANS, 15 FEET ON THE WEST AND NORTH SIDE.
15 FEET ON THE NORTH AND WEST SIDE.
AND THERE IS ABOUT 10 FEET ON THE EAST SIDE
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OKAY.ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MEMBER SHAMARA, WITH YOUR CURB CUT, ARE YOU PLANNING TO ALLOW FOR ONE WAY, IN ONE WAY OUT OR ALLOWING FOR YOUR, UH, CLIENTS TO TURN BOTH RIGHT AND LEFT ONTO SOUTHWESTERN? UM, BOTH RIGHT AND LEFT TWO WAY ENTRANCE IN AND OUT.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE MEMBER MURA JOSH, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE DOT WOULD EVER TAKE A LOOK AT? RIGHT.
THE HEIGHTENED LIKE TRAFFIC AWARENESS FROM THE CIRCLE K PROJECT IS WHY I'M ASKING? YEAH.
ANYTHING THAT RELATES TO THEIR STATE HIGHWAY SYSTEM IN TERMS OF ESPECIALLY EXITING, ENTERING.
THEY CERTAINLY WILL TAKE A LOOK AT, LIKE I SAID, FROM THIS STANDPOINT, UM, I DON'T THINK IT TRIGGERS THE NEED FOR US TO SEND IT TO THEM FOR A COMMENT.
THEY OBVIOUSLY WILL BE IN CON IN COORDINATION WITH THE APPLICANT.
UM, AND THAT'LL BE A PART OF, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THEIR THIRD PARTY APPROVALS WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
ANYONE ELSE? I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I THINK THAT THE APPLICANT HAS DONE A FAIRLY THOROUGH JOB IN ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD FROM BEFORE.
I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS ABOUT SAVING THE TREES, UM, AT LEAST LOOKING AT IT AND, UM, THE BUFFER.
SO AT THIS POINT I THINK WE'D BE READY TO GO AHEAD AND, UM, SCHEDULE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND HOW MANY CASES DOES THAT TAKE? UH, THAT WAS ONE OF THE 4 0 4 CASES.
UM, ARE YOU ALSO POTENTIALLY AUTHORIZING THE CONSIDERATION FOR APPROVAL RESOLUTIONS? UH, YES.
SO WE'LL SEE YOU BACK HERE ON THE FOURTH OF, UM, NOVEMBER.
[6. Planning Board to review and provide a recommendation on approval for an addition and other exterior improvements to Our Mother of Good Counsel Church (OMGC) located at 3688 South Park Ave in the Village of Blasdell ]
IS, UM, PLANNING BOARD TO REVIEW AND PROVIDE RECOMMENDATION FROM IN REGARDS TO OUR MOTHER OF GOOD COUNSEL, UM, CHURCH, WHICH IS LOCATED AT 3 6 8 8 SOUTH PARK AVENUE IN VILLAGE OF BLAZEDALE AND BOARD MEMBERS.UM, YOU'LL RECALL THAT EVEN THOUGH THAT THIS IS IN BLAZEDALE FROM TIME TO TIME, WE ARE CALLED UPON TO REVIEW CASES FOR THE TOWN OF BLAZEDALE.
AND THEN THAT THIS GETS SENT BACK TO, UM, THEIR CODE OFFICER.
I'LL EXPLAIN JUST A LITTLE FURTHER.
SO, UM, THE VILLAGE OF BLAZEDALE DOES NOT HAVE A PLANNING BOARD.
UM, AND THE VILLAGE OF BLAZEDALE IS A SEPARATE MUNICIPALITY THAN THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, BUT THERE IS AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE VILLAGE AND THE TOWN FOR THE TOWN, UH, PLANNING BOARD TO REVIEW PROJECTS.
AND THEN WE TYPICALLY ISSUE A RECOMMENDATION.
UM, ONE OF OUR TOWN CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ALSO DOES CODE ENFORCEMENT FOR THE ENTIRE VILLAGE OF BLAZEDALE.
SO WHAT WE'VE DONE OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WHENEVER WE HAVE GOTTEN A VILLAGE OF BLAZEDALE PROJECT, IS THAT WE HAVE THE APPLICANT COME PRESENT.
THEY, UH, WE HAVE A VILLAGE OF BLAZEDALE FEE THAT WE CHARGE ON OUR FEE SCHEDULE.
THEY, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO FOR SITE PLAN REVIEW, WE HAVE THEM COME AND PRESENT.
UM, YOU GUYS CAN, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY REVIEW, YOU KNOW, THE PROJECT ITSELF, BUT IT'S JUST A RECOMMENDATION.
THERE'S NO APPROVAL FROM THE TOWN OF HAMBURG.
UM, BECAUSE THIS IS TALLY IN THE VILLAGE OF BLAZEDALE.
UM, WE ALSO OFTEN HAVE PEOPLE DO A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO WE WILL NOTICE OUT, YOU KNOW, UH, 500 FEET FROM SOUTH PARK, UM, INVITE PEOPLE TO A PUBLIC HEARING.
BUT LIKE I SAID, IT'S, IT'S A UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCE.
WE'RE IN A PLANNING BOARD FROM A SEPARATE NEIGHBORING MUNICIPALITY DISSOLVES, AND THERE'S AN AGREEMENT HAD BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, THE REVIEW OF PROJECTS, BUT THAT, THAT IS WHAT WE DO IN THE, THE TOWN.
SO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT IN FRONT OF US, AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT YOUR PROJECT'S ALL ABOUT.
THANK YOU FOR, UH, SEEING THIS PROJECT.
UH, MY NAME IS DOUGLAS KLOTZBACH.
I'M WITH K TWO ARCHITECTURE, UH, HERE IN THE CITY OF BUFFALO.
UM, I HAVE, UH, MY CLIENT OR MY, THE PASTOR THAT LEADS THE CHURCH IS MOVING INTO HERE IS, UH, RICKY BECK, UH, PASTOR RICKY BECK.
HE IS ACTUALLY IN A MISSION TRIP THIS WEEK IN NICARAGUA, SO HE COULDN'T BE HERE.
UH, BUT HE IS TEXTING ME AS I GO THROUGH THE NIGHT.
UH, UM, THE PROJECT, AS YOU CAN SEE IS, IS THE FORMER, UM, WAS A MOTHER OF OUR, OUR MOTHER OF GOOD COUNSEL.
UH, IT HAS NOW BEEN PURCHASED, UH, BY, UH, THE CHURCH, THE, UH, HARVEST, UH, BIBLE CHAPEL.
UH, PRESENTLY THEY ARE MEETING, UH, AT, UH, ORCHARD PARK TOWN HALL.
THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR I THINK OVER FIVE YEARS.
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UH, AND THEY FINALLY HAD A PLACE TO, TO FIND A HOME.UH, THEY'RE CLOSE TO, I KNOW THEY'RE OVER 200 MEETING OF ADULTS AND RIGHT ABOUT 150 KIDS.
SO IT'S A PRETTY BIG, UH, CONGREGATION.
THIS REALLY FITS, UH, THEIR USE AND THEIR NEED.
UH, SO THIS BUILDING, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE, ON THE SITE PLAN, WE'RE NOT MODIFYING THE SITE, UH, THE PARKING OR REALLY ANY OF THE LANDSCAPING EXCEPT FOR INTERNALLY, UH, TO THE SITE.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THE LIGHT BEIGE VERSUS THE DARKER BEIGE IS, ARE THE EXISTING BUILDINGS.
THE LIGHT BEIGE IS, ARE BASICALLY TWO PARTS.
THE FIRST PART IS, UH, THERE WAS A GARAGE THAT SORT OF SITS IN THE KNUCKLE BETWEEN THE CHURCH AND THE RECTORY.
THAT GARAGE IS GONNA BE TURNED INTO THE NEW LOBBY.
UH, AND THEN THERE'S A LITTLE ADDITION TO CONNECT THAT LOBBY INTO THE, UH, THROUGH THE SACRISTY, THE FORMER SACRISTY, AND INTO THE SANCTUARY, WHICH WILL BECOME NOW THE READING AREA AND ENTRANCE.
UM, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE SORT OF LIKE A T OR THE L SHAPE, UH, ADDITION THAT WILL BE CONNECTING THE, UM, THE, ACTUALLY IT'S A, IT WAS CLASSROOMS AT THE TIME.
THEY DID AN ADDITION, UH, IN 2019 TO THIS BUILDING.
AND THAT'S CONNECTING, THAT WHOLE COMPLEX WILL BE THE CHILDREN'S WING AND THAT'LL CONNECT OVER TO THE LOBBY, UM, WITH AN ADDITION.
SO WE COULD GO THROUGH THE PLANS PRETTY QUICKLY.
UM, SO DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE, OR YEAH, LEMME PULL IT UP.
LET'S START WITH THE FLOOR PLAN, I GUESS.
SO ARE WE GONNA GET THE COLORED ONE UP? YEAH.
UH, IS IT THIS ONE? THIS, UH, YEAH, THAT'S IT.
SO YOU CAN REALLY SEE THE, THE, ACTUALLY THE MAIN LEVEL IS, IS SORT OF LIKE THAT WINDING THING THAT GOES THROUGH.
YOU SEE THE BLUE, UH, BLUE IS, UH, COATED THAT WAY.
SO YOU GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE, UH, PROGRAM, UH, THAT IS THE PUBLIC ACCESS AREA OR THE, UH, WHERE YOU WOULD TRAVEL TO GO TO EACH AREA OF THE BUILDING.
UH, SO, AND THE GREEN AREA IS SECURED AREAS THAT'S FOR THE CHILDREN, FOR SECURED AREAS, YOU KNOW, FOR DURING A SUNDAY.
UH, YOU HEAR ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME.
YOU'RE LOOKING FOR TAG THE CHILDREN AND MAKE SURE THEY GET THE RIGHT PARENT AND ALL THAT STUFF.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO IDENTIFY.
UH, YOU CAN SEE TO THE LEFT THERE OR IN THE MIDDLE THERE, UH, THERE'S THE ORIGINAL BUILDING THAT THEY HAD RENOVATED IN 2019.
AND, AND, AND, AND LEFT OF THAT IS THE SECOND FLOOR.
WE'RE GONNA TAKE THE SECOND FLOOR AND ACTUALLY, UM, COMPLETELY DEMO THE HOLE UPSTAIRS.
DURING THAT RENOVATION, THEY NEVER DID ANYTHING TO IT.
ALL THEY DID WAS PUT A FIRE FIRE ALARM UP THERE.
SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS BASICALLY TURN THAT INTO THREE CLASSROOMS. IT HAS THE TWO EXITS ON EACH END.
IT WORKS PERFECTLY FOR THAT BUILDING.
SO, AND THAT WAS DONE IN 2019 TO CODE.
SO IT'S REALLY READY TO DO WHAT WE'RE DOING, UH, WHICH IS VERY NICE.
SO BASICALLY THAT'S PART OF THE FIRST PHASE.
AND THEN IF YOU LOOK OVER ON THE RIGHT IS THE MAIN CHURCH.
UH, THE ORIGINAL CHURCH IS A, A LINEAR CHURCH WITH THE SANCTUARY ON THE BOTTOM OR ON THE, UH, AND SO BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS DOING A, A CHURCH IN THE ROUND, WHICH IS MORE APPROPRIATE FOR A LOT OF CHURCHES BECAUSE YOU WANNA BE WITHIN, YOU KNOW, 50 TO 60 FEET OF, OF THE PASTOR OF THE SPEAKER, I SHOULD SAY.
AND, AND THAT REALLY IS WHAT THE RADIO PLAN DOES.
UH, THIS CHURCH IS VERY SIMILAR TO A LOT OF OTHER CHURCHES WE'VE DONE.
IT'S, IT REALLY MAKES IT IN THAT SPACE AND IT SEEMS VERY INTIMATE AND, AND NICE.
WE'RE GONNA BE PUTTING SOUND PANELS UP IN THE HAMMER BEAMS THAT ARE THERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN IN THAT, BUT IT'S REALLY A WONDERFUL CHURCH.
WE ARE GONNA KEEP THE ENTRANCE OFF OF, UH, OFF OF, UM, SOUTH PARK.
AND WE, UH, ARE CLOSING THE ENTRANCE TO, I THINK IT'S ELMWOOD ON THAT SIDE.
UH, SO WE, THAT AREA WILL BE, UH, CLOSED OFF FOR STORAGE.
AND, AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE IS A FIRE START ROOM.
AND THEN YOU GO DOWN, YOU CAN SEE THE ENTRANCE, THE NEW ENTRY, AND THEN, UH, THE MAIN AREA, THE PAINT, THE PURPLE IDENTIFIES OFFICES, ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES.
SO YOU CAN SEE HOW WE'RE DOING THAT.
AND THEN IN THE BASEMENT, THAT WILL BE, UH, AN AREA FOR THE OLDER KIDS, UM, UH, IN THAT AREA THERE.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S HERE AREA BELOW.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE ELEVATION, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE, UH, THE ADDITION AND THEN THE NEW LOBBY.
I HAVE SOME RENDERINGS THAT WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT.
OH, THE THIRD, THE SECOND FLOOR THERE, THE GRAY ONE SPACE THERE.
THAT'S REALLY, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT YET.
IS IS, IS THE, UH, THEY'RE THE PRIEST, UM, FACILITIES.
THEY'RE HOUSE HOUSING BASICALLY, OR, UH, AND SO WE'RE GONNA, WE HAVEN'T SURE WHAT TO DO WITH THOSE, THOSE YET, BUT THOSE ARE SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA STAY THE WAY IT IS IN THAT OCCUPANCY
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UNTIL WE KNOW FURTHER.UM, THAT'S THE DRAWINGS, CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS, CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS, UM, MORE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS.
YOU CAN SEE THE, DID YOU HAVE THOSE RENDERINGS? I THINK SO.
LEMME SEE IF IT DOESN'T LIKE IT.
UH, YEAH, IT DOESN'T LOOK THE FILE.
YEAH, I DON'T THINK THAT THEY'RE GONNA, YOU'RE NOT GONNA OPEN, OPEN.
TRYING TO, MY COMPUTER IS ALSO HAVING, YEAH, IT'S A WEIRD FILE, BUT I HAVE A PROBLEM.
WHEN WE, WHEN YOU FIRST SENT 'EM, I COULDN'T OPEN THEM.
IT'S A JP TWO FILE, SO I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT OPENS.
SO I, I HAD SOME RENDERINGS OF THAT.
I, I'LL TRY TO JUST BRING THAT UP.
UM, THIS IS, UH, BASICALLY SHOW YOU WHERE THE AUDITORIUM WOULD LOOK LIKE.
YOU CAN SEE THE INTERIOR OF THE CHURCH AND THE RADIO PLAN WILL BE THERE.
AND THEN THIS IS, THIS IS ACTUALLY THE EXTERIOR OF THE CHURCH, UH, WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SO THIS IS THE ADDITION HERE AND THEN OVER HERE, AND THEN NEW ENTRANCE.
THAT IS WHEN YOU'RE USING THE FORMER SCHOOL? YES.
NO DAYCARE OR ANYTHING DURING THE DAY.
AND THEN THIS IS, THEN, THIS IS THE NEW LOBBY AESTHETIC VIEW INTO, UH, THE, UH, SO THEY CRO THREW THAT INTO THE, EXCUSE ME.
AND IF ANYBODY WANTS TO COME SEE THEM AFTER AS WELL, THE
THEY'RE PRETTY EXCITED TO MOVE IN HERE.
THEY USED TO BE LOCATED IN A OFFICE BUILDING IN, UH, EAST AURORA, AND NOW THEY'RE HERE AT THE BUILDING.
SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY OCCUPYING THE BUILDING NOW.
AND THEY'RE SORT OF FINDING THEIR WAY AND SAYING, YEAH, THIS IS GONNA WORK FOR THEM.
UM, THEY'RE PRETTY EXCITED TO GET THIS, UH, CONSTRUCTION GOING.
SO APPRECIATE A, A PASS ON TO, I THINK IT'S, I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE THE, UM, UH, PUBLIC HEARING.
SO WHAT WE'VE DONE PRIOR PRECEDENT, THE, THE LAST PROJECT, IF YOU GUYS RECALL, WE DID LIKE A PARKING SPACES OVER ON 3 6 5 1 SOUTH PARK.
UM, AND WE HAD THEM COME, WE GAVE 'CAUSE IN THE VILLAGE.
NOBODY WOULD REALLY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.
WE, YOU KNOW, SENT NOTICES OUT.
THEY CAN HAVE IT HERE IN TOWN HALL.
UM, AND LIKE I SAID, YOUR ACTION IS REALLY JUST A RECOMMENDATION.
IF THERE'S ANY CONDITIONS OR THINGS YOU WANT CODE ENFORCEMENT TO REVIEW AS THEY'RE REVIEWING THEIR ULTIMATE PLANS WHEN THEY SUBMIT THEM, UM, THAT'S WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD CONSIST OF.
ENGINEERING, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING SIMILAR TO WHAT JOSH SAID? THIS REALLY IS A BUILDING DEPARTMENT ITEM.
UM, THE ONLY THING WE ALWAYS MAKE SURE THAT THEY LOOK FOR IS, UM, HOW THEY'RE HANDLING ROOF RUNOFF.
SO IF YOU HAVE ROOF LEADERS, GUTTERS, UH, WHATEVER SYSTEM THAT THESE BUILDINGS WORK WITH, THAT TO NOT CAUSE PROBLEMS, UH, SOMEWHERE WITH POOLING OR, UM, ICING.
AND FUNNY ENOUGH, WENDELL IS THE VILLAGE ENGINEER, SO YEAH.
SO YOU'LL BE OUT THERE WITH YOUR HAMMER? NO, I'M NOT, I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, SO NO, NO.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS? DOUG DOUGLAS, COULD YOU REPEAT YOUR LAST NAME FOR ME? UH, KLOTZBACH.
MEMBER SHAMARA, DID YOU SAY THEY END UP LOOKING AT PARKING? LIKE THE NUMBER? UH, I'M, I SAID WE, THE PREVIOUS
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PROPOSAL THAT CAME TO THE PLANNING BOARD WAS A PARKING OH.PROJECT IN THE VILLAGE OF BLAZEDALE.
BUT YES, CODE ENFORCEMENT LOOKS TYPICALLY AT EVERYTHING SITE PLAN RELATED.
LIKE I SAID, IT'S JUST, IT'S VERY UNIQUE BECAUSE IT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITY, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, BORDERS RIGHT HERE IN THE TOWN, BUT THE VILLAGE DOESN'T HAVE A PLANNING BOARD ANYMORE.
SO, AND THE CHURCH AREA ACTUALLY FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
THE CHURCH AREA IS ACTUALLY A REDUCTION BECAUSE OF THE RADIO PLAN.
WE ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, PEWS IN A ROW.
SO THE ACTUAL VOLUME OF THE CHURCH WILL BE DOWN.
UH, SO IT'LL BE BASICALLY THE SAME.
AND THEY UTILIZED THE FACILITY JUST BASICALLY HOW WE'RE GONNA UTILIZE IT.
UH, TODAY THEY HAD THE DOWNSTAIRS, THEY HAD ALL THESE FACES OCCUPIED, UH, WHEN IT WAS THRIVING.
AND SO WE'LL BE SIMILAR TO THAT.
THEY DO PARK ON SUNDAY ALONG THE ROAD, ALONG EL UM, ELMWOOD AND ALONG THE OTHER SIDE TOWARDS, UH, I THINK IT'S THE OLD SCHOOL THAT WAS THERE.
UM, AND THEY, THEY PRETTY WELL OCCUPY THAT WHOLE CORNER ON A SUNDAY MORNING.
UM, AND THERE'S, THERE'S QUITE A FEW, YOU KNOW, IT'S A GOOD, GOOD AMOUNT OF PARKING.
UH, THE REASON, THE REASON WHY WE'RE MOVING THE ENTRANCE TO THE BACK IS BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE PARKING IS.
SO WE REALLY WANTED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF, OF GETTING YOU EASIER THERE, EASILY IN WITHOUT WALKING IN FRONT OF THE, THE, THE, THE SANCTUARY AREA.
SO THE PARKING IS ADEQUATE, WE BELIEVE.
UH, RIGHT NOW, JUST WANNA NOTE THAT THE ADDRESS THAT'S ON THE PLANS IS NOT THE CORRECT ADDRESS IS TWO.
RIGHT? SO THE 2, 6 8 8 BRINGS YOU UP TO, UH, BOTANICAL GARDENS? YEAH.
IT'S THE SAME, BUT THE TWO AND THE THREE WERE TYPO AND GOT CARRIED THROUGH.
UNFORTUNATELY I DIDN'T, THAT WAS MY BAD.
WELL, HE NEEDS TO CORRECT THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IT'S NICE TO SEE A BUILDING REPURPOSED, UM, ESPECIALLY IN THIS DAY AND AGE, SO THAT'S KIND OF EXCITING.
SO YOU'RE USING THIS BUILDING RIGHT NOW FOR WORSHIP, IS THAT CORRECT? NO, WE'RE USING IT FOR THE OFFICES.
BUT YOU MENTIONED THAT THEY'RE, THEY PARK ON THE SI THEY PARK ON THE SIDES OF THE STREETS.
SO THAT WAS THE PREVIOUS, UM, PARISH.
SO WE DON'T KNOW THAT THIS, THAT THIS COUNCIL, THAT THIS, UM, PARISH WILL BE PARKING ON THE STREETS.
THEY, LIKE, THEY'LL PARK IN THE PARKING LOT BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE MAIN ENTRANCE IS.
SO HOW MANY PARKING PLACES DO YOU HAVE? UH, I THINK IT'S IN THE SIXTIES.
UM, SO IT MIGHT NOT BE ENOUGH PARKING? WELL, WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE PROPERTY, UNFORTUNATELY.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE PROPERTY THAT'S HERE.
WELL, IT'S A SIDE STREET THAT THEY PARKED ON IN THE PAST.
THAT WASN'T INTERFERING WITH SOUTH PARK AT ALL.
BUT THIS IS A NEW PROJECT, SO I'M JUST ADDRESSING THE, IS THERE PERMIT, IS PARKING PERMITT ON THOSE SIDE STREETS? RIGHT.
IT'S A, IT'S GRANDFATHERED IN BY THAT TOO, BY BUILDING CODE.
SO WE'RE ACTUALLY JUST REPURPOSING THE BUILDING IN THE SAME WAY.
WE'RE NOT FOR OUR, I APOLOGIZE, BUT FOR OUR PURPOSE WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING.
SO THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT WE ASK BASED ON IT'S OCCUPANCY THOUGH, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE USE AT ALL.
I, UM, MY ONLY CONCERN WOULD BE ABOUT THE PARKING.
THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY CONCERN.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK THAT IT'S GREAT THAT THE BUILDING IS BEING REPURPOSED AND I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO OFFER THE OPPORTUNITY FOR JUST RESIDENTS AROUND THAT AREA TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO SPEAK IF THEY WANT AT THE MEETING ON THE FOURTH? I DO, YES.
AND THEN I THINK I HAVE THE GIST OF THE RECOMMENDATION.
LIKE I SAID, YOU CAN ADD THOUGHTS AND IT'LL GO TO CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THEN THEY'LL TAKE IT FROM THERE.
WE HAVE TIME TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING, SO YES.
I THINK THAT BASED PRELIMINARILY WE'LL JUST DO THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE FOURTH AND THEN, RIGHT.
AND THEN WE'LL TAKE IT FROM THERE.
WE'LL SEE YOU BACK HERE ON THE FOURTH.
[7. Planning Board to discuss the draft Final Environmental Impact Statement submitted by Wetzl Development, LLC regarding a proposal by Glenn Wetzl to rezone property located east and south of 4255 McKinley Parkway ]
THIS EVENING IS, UM, THE PLANNING BOARD TO DISCUSS THE FINAL, THE DRAFT FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDY SUBMITTED BY WETZEL DEVELOPMENT LLC REGARDING THE PROPOSAL BY GLEN WETZEL TO RE ZONE PROPERTY LOCATED EAST AND SOUTH OF 4 2 5 5 MCKINLEY PARKWAY.UM, THE, SEE THIS, SO IT'S RIGHT THERE.
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A WHILE SINCE WE'VE SEEN YOU.I KNOW, RIGHT? I, I, UH, DREW THE SHORT STRAW TONIGHT.
UM, WELL, GEEZ,
WHAT THE HOCKEY GAME IS, TODD.
UM, UM, BEFORE WE GET INTO THIS, THERE'S A BUNCH OF STUDENTS IN THE BACK.
IS THAT RIGHT? THAT YOU NEED SIGNATURES? HOW MANY ARE YOU? ALL OF THEM? A LOT.
I THOUGHT IF THERE WAS ONE OR TWO, I WOULD GET 'EM OUTTA HERE.
'CAUSE IT'S ALMOST NINE O'CLOCK.
UM, CHRIS WOOD WITH CARWOOD DESIGN, AGAIN, WE'RE HERE FOR JUST AN UPDATE ON THE EISI.
I BELIEVE, UH, YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THIS SEVERAL TIMES.
AGAIN, WE'RE HERE FOR THE REZONING FROM, UH, R ONE AND C ONE TWO R THREE TO ALLOW THE PROPOSED MULTIFAMILY ON A PORTION OF THE SITE.
THE REMAINDER WOULD BE DEED RESTRICTED AS OPEN SPACE.
THE SITE'S ABOUT 42 AND A HALF ACRES.
ABOUT 21 ACRES WOULD BE PERMANENT OPEN SPACE AND THE REMAINDER TO BE DEVELOPED WITH A 150 MULTIFAMILY UNITS.
UH, ALL WITH ATTACHED GARAGES.
SOME TWO STORIES, THE MAJORITY OF 'EM, ONE STORY.
UH, THE ZONING LINE, THE CLOSEST ZONING LINE CHANGE WOULD BE ABOUT 200 FEET FROM THE CLOSEST RESIDENCE REAR PROPERTY LINE ALONG, UH, TO MAKA AND WILSON IN THE BACK.
SO TONIGHT WE HAVE THE FEIS IN FRONT OF US.
SO, UM, IN TERMS OF WHERE WE ARE WITH THIS PROJECT, SO YOU HAVE THE HARD COPIES AND WE ALSO HAVE THE ELECTRONIC COPIES OF THE FEIS ALONG WITH THE APPENDIX.
UM, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID WITH THE PARKER ROAD PROJECT.
UM, IN TERMS OF REVIEWING THE FEIS, THE GOAL, AT LEAST FOR THE PLANNING BOARD OR YOUR NEXT STEP, IS TO DEEM WHETHER THE FEIS IS, UH, READY FOR PUBLIC REVIEW AND READY TO, UH, ACCEPT IT AS COMPLETE.
UM, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID FOR THE PARKER ROAD PROJECT, I TOOK A REVIEW OF THE FEIS AND I PUT TOGETHER AN ISSUES FOR DISCUSSION DOCUMENT, WHICH I SHARED WITH THE BOARD AND, UH, THE APPLICANT'S ATTORNEY.
UM, ONCE AGAIN, UH, IN THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT, ALL I DO IS I JUST KIND OF HIGHLIGHT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE PROJECT IS ABOUT.
THERE'S AN AS OF RIGHT PLAN THAT HAS, THAT UTILIZES THE C ONE, UM, AND INCLUDES AN 18 HOME RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION THAT WOULD CONNECT TO WILSON AND TAM MAKA.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S A MULTIFAMILY AND RESIDENTIAL, UH, ALTERNATIVE THAT DOES HAVE BOTH MULTIFAMILY AND THAT RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION STILL.
AND THEN THERE'S A THIRD ALTERNATIVE, WHICH IS I BELIEVE THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE FROM THE APPLICANT, WHICH HAS 156 UNITS OF MULTIFAMILY APARTMENTS.
UM, LIKE I SAID, THE ZONING, LIKE CHRIS SAID, THE ZONING IS CURRENTLY C ONE IN R ONE.
WHAT THE APPLICANT IS LOOKING FOR IS A RECOMMENDATION BACK TO THE TOWN BOARD FOR A REZONING TO ALL R THREE TO ACCOMMODATE THE MULTIFAMILY.
UM, SO YOU CAN SEE PERSONALLY, NOT ALL, NOT ALL OF IT, R THREE OR A PORTION, A PORTION OF IT TO BE R THREE 20 ACRES PLUS OR MINUS POWER ONE.
UM, AND THEN IN THE FEIS ITSELF, UM, SIMILAR TO WHAT I, LIKE I SAID, WHAT I DID FOR, UH, PARK ROAD, WHAT I NOTICED IN THE FEIS IS THAT FOR SOME OF THE IMPACTS, UM, AT LEAST IN TERMS OF DISCUSSION, IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE IT'S COPIED OVER FROM THE PARKER ROAD, FEIS.
IT DOESN'T GET INTO MUCH MORE DETAIL.
THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A COMPLETELY SEPARATE PROJECT, COMPLETELY SEPARATE IMPACTS.
WHILE THERE MAY BE IMPACTS THAT ARE CUMULATIVE, UM, THERE ARE SOME IMPACTS THAT I FEEL LIKE ARE KIND OF JUST THE SAME AS PARKER ROAD.
UM, SO I JUST HIGHLIGHTED THAT THERE MAY NEED TO BE JUST A FURTHER LOOK INTO SOME OF THOSE IMPACTS.
UM, OBVIOUSLY FROM THE, UH, THE PARKER ROAD VERSION, WHAT WE DID IS WE HAD ASKED THE APPLICANT TO HAVE THE FAIS HAVE THE, AT THAT TIME, THE AS OF RIGHT.
AND THEN WHAT THE ALTERNATIVE WAS BECAUSE THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT VERSIONS.
I THINK THAT IT MADE MORE, MORE SENSE TO TALK ABOUT THE IMPACTS FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE ALTERNATIVES INTO THE FEIS.
UM, SO I NOTICED THAT THERE WERE SOME IMPACTS FOR ALL OF THE DIFFERENT IMPACTS THAT THE POS DECK WAS ON.
SO SURFACE WATERS IMPACT ON LAND PLANTS AND ANIMALS, TRANSPORTATION.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK TO HIGHLIGHT OR TO THINK ABOUT AS YOU'RE CONSIDERING WHETHER THE FEIS IS COMPLETE FOR THE WETZEL PROJECT IS TRANSPORTATION, I THINK IS ONE OF THE HUGE COMPONENTS.
UM, OBVIOUSLY NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF JUST THE SIZE OF THE PROJECT ITSELF, BUT BECAUSE PARKER ROAD NOT ONLY IS OBVIOUSLY GOING TO GO IN, UM, THE CUMULATIVE IMPACTS AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE BILL STADIUM IS NOW HERE.
SO CONSIDERING ALL OF THOSE IMPACTS, UM, FROM A TRANSPORTATION STANDPOINT, BUT MAKING SURE THAT THOSE IMPACTS ARE HIGHLIGHTED FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE ALTERNATIVES.
UM, ENERGY, UH, ODOR, YOU KNOW, IMPACTS ON PUBLIC HEALTH.
UH, I THINK ANOTHER ONE THAT I HIGHLIGHTED THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT IS THE GROWTH AND CHARACTER OF THE COMMUNITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, AND THEN ONE OF THE BIGGEST PIECES I THINK ARE GOING TO BE NOT ONLY THE PROJECT ALTERNATIVES, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY TECHNICALLY TWO, THEIR PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE IS THE MULTIFAMILY PIECE, BUT THERE'S OTHER TWO TO CONSIDER.
UM, AND THEN THE RESPONSE TO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD THAT WE RECEIVED DURING THE DEIS, UM, AND MAKING SURE THAT THOSE RESPONSES ANSWER ALL THOSE QUESTIONS, NOT ONLY FROM AGENCIES, BUT ALSO
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FROM INDIVIDUAL, UH, PEOPLE WHO SPOKE DURING THAT TIME.UM, AND THEN JUST IN TERMS OF GENERAL PLANNING COMMENTS THAT I NOTICED, UM, LIKE I SAID, SECTION THREE, WHICH I JUST TALKED ABOUT, I THINK HAS A LOT OF IMPACTS JUST FROM THE PARKER ROAD PROJECT.
UM, THERE ARE COMMENTS THAT I THINK ARE, THERE'S ONE COMMENT THAT'S MISSING.
UM, THERE'S A, A EMAIL FROM A WOMAN NAMED ASHLEY BISHOP DURING THE DEIS FROM OCTOBER OF 2024.
IF THE APPLICANT DOESN'T HAVE THAT EMAIL, I HAVE A COPY OF IT.
I CAN FORWARD IT OVER TO THEM.
UM, I THINK THAT HER CONCERN SHOULD BE ADDRESSED IN THE FEIS.
UM, AND THEN I THINK THAT THE CUMULATIVE IMPACTS WITH PARKER ROAD, ESPECIALLY WITH PARKER ROAD NOW, YOU KNOW, GOING TO BE GOING IN, I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE A HUGE COMPONENT THAT THE PLANNING BOARD SHOULD JUST MAKE SURE IS ADDRESSED IN THE FEIS.
UM, AND THEN, UH, IN TERMS OF JUST LIKE COMMUNITY, UH, FACILITIES LIKE, UH, THE FEIS STATES THAT THERE WEREN'T ANY COMMENTS RECEIVED FROM THE POLICE FIRE SCHOOLS.
UM, THERE'S NO ANALYSIS REALLY ABOUT SCHOOL ENROLLMENT.
IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A NEED OR DEMAND FOR INCREASED EMERGENCY SERVICES.
WITH THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE BEING 156 UNITS, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THERE WOULD BE AN INCREASE IN DEMAND, POTENTIAL DEMAND.
UM, SO JUST HAVING A LITTLE BIT MORE INPUT ON THAT PIECE, UM, IS SOMETHING THAT I JUST RECOMMEND.
I ALSO WANNA STRESS, THIS IS JUST THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT REVIEW.
BY NO MEANS IS THIS A RUBBER STAMP THAT THE PLANNING BOARD SHOULD JUST SAY.
UM, THOSE ARE JUST MY THOUGHTS THAT I SHARED WITH YOU AS YOUR'RE CONTINUING TO REVIEW THE FEIS WELL, NOW THAT YOU DID MY JOB AND WE THINK TOO MUCH ALIKE, BUT YOU MISSED ONE THING ON PAGE 10 OF THE, AND AGAIN, I, THIS IS DEFINITELY NOT COMPLETE.
I, I WILL SAY THAT, AND IT'S VERY CONFUSING.
AND THE OTHER ONE WAS VERY SEAMLESS, BUT THERE'S PAGE NUMBERS THAT ARE WAY DIFFERENT.
I HAD A TOUGH TIME GOING THROUGH THIS, BUT ON TRAFFIC IMPACT REPORT, PAGE 10, IT SAYS BIG TREE ROAD, 150 UNITS, MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING, PARKER ROAD 65 LOTS.
SO I FEEL LIKE THIS REPORT HASN'T BEEN UPDATED SINCE PARKER ROAD'S BEEN APPROVED.
AND POTENTIALLY I DIDN'T WRITE THE REPORT.
NO, I, I, MR. HOPKINS DID I CERTAINLY PASS ON THE YEAH, I, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT OKAY.
WE WAITED A LONG TIME FOR THE PAPER AND THEN WE GOT IT TWO WEEKS AGO.
AND THEN WHEN I STARTED GOING THROUGH IT, LIKE I SAY, I USUALLY DON'T HAVE A HARD TIME GOING THROUGH MM-HMM
BUT I HAD A HARD TIME FOLLOWING THIS.
AND, UM, SO TO JOSH'S POINT, WE NEED TO KNOW THE IMPACTS ON ALL THREE, NOT JUST THE ONE.
AND ALSO, I'M STILL CONFUSED ABOUT THIS TRAFFIC THING.
UM, THIS PROJECT STARTED IN 1903, UM, 1927.
WAS IT 20? 2020? I THINK IT WAS 2020.
I, YEAH, A LOT'S CHANGED SINCE 2020.
UM, SO, AND I FEEL THAT THIS DOESN'T REFLECT THOSE CHANGES.
UM, THE TRAFFIC, THE BILL STADIUM IS COMPLETED.
THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO MAKE SURE, AND I COULDN'T FIND IT IN HERE, AND IT COULD JUST BE BECAUSE I WAS SO FRUSTRATED BY THE TIME, 'CAUSE I COULDN'T NORMALLY, I, LIKE I SAID, IT'S EASY TO GO THROUGH AND THIS WAS NOT.
BUT, UM, I DIDN'T SEE, UM, THE UPDATE ABOUT THE WATER ISSUES THAT THE RESIDENTS WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT.
WATER SUPPLY, WATER FLOODING, DRAIN, THE FLOODING WATER, FLOODING THE DRAINAGE, ALL OF THAT.
AND, UM, SO I'M JUST GONNA GO ON THE RECORD, SAY THIS IS DEFINITELY NOT, UM, COMPLETE.
I CONCUR WITH WHAT JOSH OFFERED TO US.
'CAUSE I WENT THROUGH, YOU FOUND A LITTLE MORE THAN I DID.
UM, I AGED CONSIDERABLY GOING THROUGH IT.
SO GOD LOVE YOU FOR FINDING THAT.
UM, AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE FOR IT.
SO IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANYTHING TO OFFER, IT'S YOUR TURN.
I, I I MEAN JOSH TOUCHED ON IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT I MEAN, THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, REFERENCES TO THE LOTS OF PARKER ROAD, YOU KNOW, IT SAID 59 LOTS, WHICH OBVIOUSLY WAS A REFERENCE TO PARKER ROAD.
AND THEN THEY HAD, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE SAYING ABOUT THE, UH, THE TWO LOTS THAT ARE ON PARKER ROAD ABOUT THE ROAD GOING THROUGH THERE.
YOU KNOW, WHY IS THAT IN HERE? WHY IS THAT IN HERE? MM-HMM
SO IT NEEDS TO GET CLEANED UP.
I THINK IT NEEDS TO GET VACUUMED.
ANYBODY ELSE? I, I THINK BASICALLY THAT'S, I MEAN, OKAY,
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YOU GET, YOU GET THE, YOU GET THE, JUST SEAN HAS YOUR MEMO, RIGHT? MM-HMMAND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT ANY REFERENCES TO PARKER ROAD, WHICH SHOULDN'T BE IN THERE, WILL BE CLEANED UP AND NUMBER OF LOTS AND WHATNOT.
I THOUGHT WE DID, DIDN'T WE SUBMIT SOMETHING FROM PARO MM-HMM
COMMENTING ON THE BILLS STADIUM TRAFFIC IMPACT OR NOT, BUT NOT FROM THE TIME THAT IT WAS COMPLETE.
SO THERE, THERE WAS A NEW TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WAS DONE, BUT WHAT I HIGHLIGHTED IN MY REVIEW OF IT IS THAT THE IMPACTS TO TRANSPORTATION IN THE DOCUMENT DON'T REFLECT THAT TRAFFIC STUDY.
LIKE A LOT OF IT'S BEEN COPIED OVER THAT IT DIDN'T REALLY GET INTO THE ANALYSIS THAT WAS IN THE TRAFFIC.
'CAUSE THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS PRESENTED.
AND WE HAVE THAT, THAT'S AN APPENDIX, BUT THE ANALYSIS OF IT, I THINK WAS LITERALLY COPIED, EITHER COPIED OVER OR JUST ISN'T AS COMPLETE FOR THIS TOTALLY SEPARATE PROJECT.
DIDN'T I, I THOUGHT THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS FROM 2024.
AND, AND THAT DOESN'T ADDRESS THE BILL STATEMENT, THE BILL STATING, WHICH BACK IN 24 WE DISCUSSED.
'CAUSE IT WASN'T COMPLETED THEN.
SO IT WASN'T COMPLETED, BUT IT WAS CONSIDERED WHEN THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS UPDATED.
SO JUST TO CLARIFY, THE, THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WILL BE CONSIDERED FOR THE FIS WILL BE THE 20 24 1.
WERE NOT GONNA REQUIRE 20 26 1.
SPECIFIC COMMENTS WERE, I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THE ANALYSIS ON THAT SUBMITTED TRAFFIC STUDY WERE SUFFICIENT FOR AN FEIS FOR THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT.
AND I WAS CONFUSED BECAUSE THE BILL STADIUM, SINCE WE LOOKED AT THIS, IT WAS COMPLETE.
THE BILL STADIUM HAD COMPLETED AND THERE WAS NO REFERENCE TO, TO ANY OF THAT IN HERE EITHER.
IN TERMS OF TABLING IT, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF MR. HOPKINS AND THE TEAM WILL BE ABLE TO REVISE THE FEIS BY NOVEMBER 4TH, WHICH IS OUR NEXT MEETING.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT US TO TABLE IT INDEFINITELY OR WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE IN TERMS OF, I MEAN, I WOULD, I WOULD PUT A DEADLINE ON IT JUST SO WE CAN TELL 'EM IT'S GOTTA BE DONE BY JOSH.
I WOULD DO IT ON THE 11TH OR ON THE 18TH.
YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY MAYBE THE SECOND MEETING IN NOVEMBER.
YEAH, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT IN HERE.
AND I, AND I DON'T THINK THAT JUST TWO WEEKS IS GONNA DO IT.
AND THEN JUST SO JUST FOR THE, THE PUBLIC'S BENEFIT, ONCE THE PLANNING BOARD DOES DEEM THE FEIS TO BE COMPLETE, THERE ARE FILING, UH, REQUIREMENTS AND THEN THERE WILL BE A 10 DAY PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD WHERE ANYBODY, IT'LL BE POSTED ON THE WEBSITE.
UM, AGENCIES CAN COMMENT WHO WE SENT IT TO DURING THE ORIGINAL SECRET DETERMINATION.
BUT, UM, ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE DOCUMENT WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE THEIR COMMENTS THAT'LL GET FORWARDED TO THE BOARD, FORWARDED TO THE APPLICANT TO ADDRESS.
AND THEN, UM, THOSE RESPONSES WILL ALSO BE A PART OF THE FEIS FOR, FOR THE MEETING ON THE 18TH.
WHEN, WHEN DO YOU WANT THE DOCUMENT? BY THE FRIDAY BEFORE.
IF YOU COULD DO IT IF ACTUALLY WITH THE AMOUNT OF MATERIAL TO REVIEW WITH THE CORRECTIONS NORMALLY WOULD BE THE FRIDAY BEFORE, BUT IF WE COULD GET IT THE WEDNESDAY BEFORE THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.
THE 11TH, WE WOULD JUST GIVE THE BOARD MORE TIME TO REVIEW IT.
I MEAN, IF YOU CAN'T IT'S FRIDAY, BUT IF YOU COULD DO IT WEDNESDAY, IT JUST BECAUSE OF THE VOLUME.
SO WE'LL SEE YOU BACK ON THE 18TH.
ARE YOU GUYS DONE WITH WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO? UH, IS IT PUBLIC TURN HEARING? NO, THERE'S NO PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT? NO.
YOU CAN WRITE YOUR CONCERNS AND ADDRESS THEM TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
I'LL MAKE SURE THAT NEW YORK STATE ALSO HELPS OUT THAT.
DID EVERYBODY GET A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MINUTES? YES.
I NEED A MOTION FOR, I HAVE TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM THE ONE SEC BECAUSE I WAS, UM, MEMBER CLARK, SHE'S RECUSING HERSELF FROM WHAT DATE? SEPTEMBER 2ND.
SEPTEMBER THE SECOND MEETING IN SEPTEMBER.
I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PLANNING BOARD MINUTES FROM THE MEETING.
NO, WE'RE GONNA DO 'EM ONE AT A TIME.
SO I, SO MOTION'S BEEN MADE FOR THE MINUTES FOR SEPTEMBER 2ND.
UM, ARE THERE ANY CHANGES, ALTERATIONS, ANYTHING? NONE.
ANY OPPOSED? MEETING FOR THE, UM, THE MINUTES FROM THE SEPTEMBER 2ND HAVE PASSED.
NOW SEPTEMBER 16TH, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES FROM THE MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2026.
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SHAMIR, SECOND BY MEMBER JACY.UM, MEMBER RYAN HAS BEEN, UM, RECUSED FROM THOSE MINUTES.
UM, THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANNA BRING UP BEFORE I ADJOURN THE MEETING IS THAT YOU SEND AN EMAIL OUT FROM CAB IN REGARDS TO A CASE THAT'S COMING UP TO US ON NOVEMBER 11TH THAT'S POSTPONED AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE BOARD HAS ONE RECEIVED IT AND THAT THEY REVIEW IT.
THE, THE CAB, THE CAB MINUTES OR THAT REPORT WAS WRITTEN BACK IN 24 AND, UM, IF WE COULD SEND IT BACK TO THE CAB AND ASK THEM TO MAKE REVISIONS TO THAT REPORT, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.