[00:00:06] SHARING. OKAY, WELCOME, EVERYBODY TO THE NOVEMBER 4TH, 2026 PLANNING BOARD MEETING. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL IT TO ORDER. PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. MEMBER, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. CYNTHIA CHEN, PRESENT. CAITLYN SHIMURA. PRESENT. RICHARD SAJAK PRESENT. WILLIAM CLARK HERE. BRIAN STEWART HERE. KIM RYAN PRESENT. MILTON KWANT HERE. AUGUST [1. Public Hearing – 7:00 P.M., Kevin Wyse – Requesting Site Plan Approval on a proposal for a 400 sq-ft automated coffee shop with a drive-thru pickup and other associated site improvements, to be located on a 0.43-acre vacant parcel at 0 Southwestern Blvd (SBL #: 170.16-4-7)] PRESENT. OKAY, SO OUR FIRST HERE, OUR FIRST CASE IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR KEVIN WISE REQUESTING SITE PLAN APPROVAL ON A PROPOSAL FOR A 400 SQUARE FOOT AUTOMATIC COFFEE SHOP WITH A DRIVE THRU PICKUP AND OTHER ASSOCIATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS. SO THIS AFTERNOON, LATE, WE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM DOT AND I'M GOING TO LET JOSH TAKE IT AWAY BEFORE WE GET INTO. SURE. SO PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC HEARING STARTING, AS THIS BOARD REMEMBERS AT THE LAST MEETING WHERE THIS PROJECT WAS BEFORE YOU. THIS BOARD DID CLASSIFY THE OPTION ACTION AS A TYPE TWO ACTION, MEANING THAT IT ISN'T SUBJECT TO FURTHER SECRET REVIEW. BUT THIS BOARD DID ASK FOR ME TO SEND IT TO DOT BECAUSE OF. THERE WILL BE NEED FOR A STATE HIGHWAY WORK PERMIT. I DID SEND THAT PROJECT TO DOT NOT IN OUR TYPICAL COORDINATOR REVIEW LEAD AGENCY KIND OF MAILING, BUT JUST AS A COURTESY. HEY, IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS, THEY DID RESPOND TODAY AND JUST SAID THAT THEY REQUESTED MORE TIME BECAUSE THEY DID BELIEVE THAT THE PROJECT WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE STATE HIGHWAY SYSTEM. SO I DID FORWARD THAT TO THE APPLICANT EARLIER TODAY AND THEN FORWARDED IT TO THE BOARD. THAT'S ALSO IN THE FOLDER FOR CORRESPONDENCE FROM DOT. SO I THINK WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TONIGHT, BOARD MEMBERS, IS BECAUSE WE PUBLICIZED FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE WILL GO AHEAD WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING AS PLANNED AND THEN TABLE IT UNTIL WE HEAR FROM DOT. THAT WILL GIVE YOU TIME. IF THERE ARE ANY COMMENTS TO GIVE YOU TIME TO RESPOND AS WELL, AND THEN WE'LL BRING THEM BACK WHEN WE'VE GOT THE INFORMATION FROM DOT. OKAY. EVERYBODY CLEAR? YEP. ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT. REMEMBER, DORIS, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ THE PUBLIC PUBLIC NOTICE. LEGAL EXCUSE ME. LEGAL NOTICE. TOWN OF HAMBURG. PLANNING BOARD SITE PLAN APPROVAL NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN THAT THE TOWN OF HAMBURG PLANNING BOARD WILL CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING ON A PROPOSAL FOR A 400 SQUARE FOOT AUTOMATED COFFEE SHOP WITH A DRIVE THRU PICKUP AND OTHER ASSOCIATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS TO BE LOCATED ON A 0.43 ACRE VACANT PARCEL AT ZERO SOUTHWESTERN BOULEVARD. SB L NUMBER 170.16-4-7. THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER 4TH, 2026 AT 7 P.M. IN ROOM 7A7B OF THE HAMBURG TOWN HALL. OKAY. IN ORDER TO HEAR FROM ALL RESIDENTS AT A REASONABLE HOUR, A THREE MINUTE RULE WILL APPLY. A PUBLIC HEARING IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO SHARE INFORMATION ON HOW THEY ARE IMPACTED BY THE PROJECT. IT IS NOT A QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD. ALL STATEMENTS MADE DURING THE HEARING, AS WELL AS WRITTEN CORRESPONDENCE, WILL BE SENT TO THE PLANNING BOARD AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT FOR RESPONSE. SO AT THIS TIME I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, SO I KNOW YOU WANT TO WE'LL HAVE YOU TALK AFTER. OKAY. BUT I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND SEE IF YOU CAN HAVE A SEAT RIGHT IN FRONT, BECAUSE I'M SURE YOU'LL BE COMING BACK. I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE TONIGHT THAT WISHES TO SPEAK. IN REGARDS TO KEVIN WISE AND HIS AUTOMATED COFFEE SHOP ON SOUTHWESTERN. THIS IS THE SECOND CALL FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR KEVIN WISE ON SOUTHWESTERN FOR HIS AUTOMATED COFFEE SHOP AT DRIVE THROUGH. OH WELL, COME ON UP. SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TALK RIGHT INTO THAT MICROPHONE. SO EVERYBODY, EVEN AT HOME AND FOR OUR RECORDING CAN HEAR YOU. AND IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR NAME AND THEN AND YOU MAY WANT TO GRAB THAT MICROPHONE BECAUSE IT WORKS BETTER IF YOU'RE HOLDING IT. OKAY, OKAY. I'M SPEAKING FOR MY MOM BECAUSE SHE LIVES RIGHT BEHIND THE PROJECT, THE [00:05:05] PROPERTY. SHE'S NOT EXACTLY VERSED WITH GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS. CAN WE HAVE YOUR NAME, PLEASE? MY NAME IS JEFFREY SZYMANSKI. AND YOUR MOM'S NAME, JANE SZYMANSKI. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND WOULD YOU SPELL THE LAST NAME? HANG ON PLEASE. SURE. GEOFFREY. WITH A GEOFF. LAST NAME IS SZYMANSKI, SZYMANSKI. OKAY. THANK YOU. THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS REGARDING THIS PROPERTY AND THIS PROJECT. NOISE ORDINANCES, THE TIME OF THE OPERA. THE BUILDING WILL BE IN OPERATION. WORK HOURS. WHAT I'M MOST CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE TERM. OTHER ASSOCIATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS. THAT'S INCREDIBLY VAGUE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHER ASSOCIATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS ARE, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY CAN BE APPROVED AS IS, BUT MY MOTHER'S CONCERNED BECAUSE NOISE, IT'S A VERY PEACEFUL NEIGHBORHOOD AND SHE'S CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC, NOISE, HOURS OF OPERATION AND DISTURBING OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD PEACEFULNESS. SO THAT IS THE STATEMENT FOR FOR ME, FOR MY MOM. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? IT'S NOT A QUESTION AND ANSWER. I KNOW, I KNOW, OKAY, OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON IN REGARDS TO THIS PROJECT? COME ON UP. DON'T BE SHY, GUYS. COME ON UP. MY NAME IS JESSICA MATTHEWS. YOU'LL HAVE TO SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE. MY NAME IS JESSICA MATTHEWS. YOU MAY WANT TO TAKE THAT MIC BECAUSE OTHERWISE, THERE YOU GO. I LIVE BEHIND THE ZONE AS WELL. OKAY, I APOLOGIZE, BUT WE DIDN'T GET YOUR NAME. JESSICA MATTHEWS. OKAY. I ALSO WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE HOURS OF OPERATION IF THEY'RE OPEN ALL NIGHT LONG. IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE CARS BEHIND OUR HOUSE AND LIGHTS COMING THROUGH OUR WINDOWS, AS WELL AS LIKE, HOW MUCH TRAFFIC IS THIS GOING TO PRODUCE? AND EVEN LIKE AIR QUALITY AND HOW LOUD IT'S GOING TO BE. ARE THEY TAKING DOWN THE FOREST AREA OR IS THIS LIKE THE PART WHERE THERE'S GRASS ALREADY? AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT FOR RIGHT NOW? OH, ALSO, I WANTED TO KNOW IF THERE'S LIKE ANY CHANCE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO EXPAND OR DEVELOP OTHER BUSINESSES AROUND IT. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? NO. FINAL CALL FOR KEVIN WISE AT ON SOUTHWESTERN BOULEVARD FOR THE COFFEE SHOP, FOR THE COFFEE SHOP. NO ONE ELSE. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME. AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THE APPLICANT TIME TO COME UP WITH THOSE ANSWERS. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY. DOES THE BOARD HAVE IF YOU WANT TO COME ON UP, PLEASE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE PREPARED TO ADDRESS SOME OF. I MEAN, THERE WAS NOT A LOT OF QUESTIONS, BUT IF YOU'RE PREPARED TO ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS OR IF YOU WANT TO WRITE A RESPONSE AND IF. DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? OKAY, SURE. I CAN ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. OKAY. TRAFFIC. OBVIOUSLY, WE AS WE HEARD THE DOT IN THEIR PURVIEW, WILL REVIEW THE PROJECT AND PROVIDE ANY INPUT THAT THEY SEE NECESSARY IN RESPONSE TO ANY TRAFFIC THAT THIS IS GOING TO GENERATE. WE DID PROVIDE A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, QUEUING ANALYSIS, AND THE ENGINEER'S REPORT IN WHICH WE LAID OUT, YOU KNOW, THERE WILL BE NO IMPACTS TO THE QUEUING AREA AS IT RELATES TO THE PUBLIC ROADWAY. BUT AGAIN, THE DOT WILL HAVE WILL HAVE COMMENTS AND WE'LL ADDRESS THOSE AS AS THEY COME IN HOURS OF OPERATION. I'M ANTICIPATING A NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS. YOU KNOW, ANY COFFEE SHOP CLOSES BY 7:08 P.M. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AN ALL NIGHT OPERATION. PEOPLE AREN'T GENERALLY IN THE HABIT OF GETTING COFFEE AT 10 P.M. SO IT WOULDN'T BE PRACTICAL TO STAY OPEN THAT LATE, NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN WORK OUT WITH THE PLANNING BOARD AS WELL. HOURS OF OPERATION. NOISE. IT'S IT'S IT'S AN AUTOMATED COFFEE SHOP AND IT'S A TOUCH SCREEN. THERE'S NO, IT'S NOT A DRIVE THRU WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR, YOU KNOW, WELCOME TO MOE'S. WHAT CAN WE GET YOU IN THE LOUDSPEAKER? SO THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE MUCH NOISE PRODUCED BY THAT DRIVE THROUGH. THERE IS ABOUT 135FT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE TO THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE, WHERE THOSE NEIGHBORS SIT IN BETWEEN. THAT IS A HEAVILY WOODED LOT THAT WE DON'T CONTROL AND IS OWNED BY THE [00:10:04] NEIGHBOR. I THINK I MEASURED ABOUT 170FT FROM THE HOUSE, THE HOUSES ON THAT STREET TO OUR PROPERTY LINE. SO THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT BUFFER THERE TO ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS ABOUT NOISE. OUR I GUESS THAT WAS A TRAFFIC NOISE. OTHER BUSINESSES WHERE THERE'S GOING TO BE NO OTHER BUSINESSES THAT WE CAN DEVELOP. WE ONLY OWN THE 0.43 ACRES OF PROPERTY. THE OTHER TWO LOTS ARE PRIVATELY OWNED. THERE WILL BE NO MORE DEVELOPMENT. I THINK THOSE WERE THE THE POINTS. SO THE ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS HOW MANY TREES ARE YOU REMOVING OFF THE PROPERTY? OR DO YOU KNOW YET IT'S ON THE TREE SURVEY. I THINK THAT'S IT RIGHT THERE. AS AS WE STATED, PREVIOUS MEETINGS, WE'LL WE'LL LEAVE THE THE EXISTING TREES ALONG THE WEST PROPERTY LINE THERE. I CAN'T COUNT THEM UP. I'D SAY 15 TO 20 TREES, SUBSTANTIAL TREES THAT ARE BEING REMOVED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. OH, OTHER OTHER THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT OTHER IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SITE. IT'S LAID OUT ON THE SITE PLAN. YOU KNOW, TYPICAL PAVEMENT FOR TO SERVE THE BUILDING. IT'S A 400 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING CURBS. BUT THERE WILL BE A BUFFER 10 TO 15FT AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE PROJECT THAT WILL REMAIN EITHER EXISTING, YOU KNOW, MATURE TREES OR NATURAL BUFFER. SO JUST TO CLARIFY FOR THE AUDIENCE, BECAUSE THEY DON'T DO IT EVERY DAY LIKE YOU AND I. SO THE ACTUAL LOT IS ONLY FOR 0.43 ACRES. JOSH DO WE HAVE THAT SOME WAY HIGHLIGHTED ON THAT SO THE AUDIENCE CAN SEE WHAT THAT IS? MAYBE, MAYBE THE FIRST PAGE WHICH SHOWS THE OVER THE YEAH, YEAH, THE, THE HATCHED AREA THERE, THE, THE POLYGON POLYGON. THAT'S KIND OF WHITE, RIGHT? SO THE HEAVY, HEAVILY WOODED AREA. IS THAT PART OF YOUR PROPERTY? NO, NO, NO, THE LIMITS OF OUR PROPERTY ARE THAT POLYGON. I'M SORRY. THE LIMITS OF OUR PROPERTY ARE THAT THAT THE HATCHED AREA THERE. OKAY. JUST SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE THAT I DON'T WHEN PEOPLE START TALKING ABOUT ARE WE TAKING TREES DOWN? I WANT TO CLARIFY WHOSE TREES WE HAVE HERE. AND WE DON'T HAVE TREES ON THE PROPERTY. SO I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THERE ARE TREES THAT THE APPLICANT IS LEAVING. IS THAT A CORRECT STATEMENT? CORRECT. OKAY. AND THEN YOU SPOKE TO A BUFFER AROUND THE PROPERTY LINE. THOSE. THAT'S WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ASSOCIATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS. SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT A SITE PLAN, WE TALK ABOUT SITE IMPROVEMENTS, PARKING, BUFFERING, LANDSCAPING. THOSE ARE THE SITE IMPROVEMENTS. OKAY. AND SO JUST TO CLARIFY FOR THE PEOPLE AT HOME AND IN THE AUDIENCE. AND THEN SO WHATEVER THERE IS, YOU SAID THAT THERE'S 135FT FROM YOUR LOT LINE FROM THAT. NO, YOU THEN YOU CORRECTED IT AND SAID, 170FT FROM YOUR LOT LINE TO THE HOUSES IS THAT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE TO THE PROPERTY LINE IS 135FT. OKAY. BUT IF YOU, YOU KNOW, THE DISTANCE, THE HOUSE ISN'T SITTING ON THE PROPERTY LINE, THERE'S ANOTHER 30FT. OKAY, HOUSE THE BACK OF THE HOUSE. CAN WE ENLARGE THAT AT ALL? THAT PICTURE SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE IT? OKAY, SO THE SPACE BETWEEN ACTUAL PROPERTY LINES TO YOUR PROPERTY LINE, YOU DO NOT OWN THAT PROPERTY. CORRECT. AND THAT'S THE WOODED AREA PROBABLY THAT THEY'RE REFERRING TO. AND YOU WON'T BE YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THAT. WE CANNOT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S OWNED BY THE THE HOUSE TO THE EAST IF YOU CAN SEE IT THERE. OKAY. JUST EAST OF OUR PROPERTY. OKAY. BOARD MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, NO. NOPE. OKAY. SO WE'LL WHEN WE HEAR BACK FROM THE DOT, THAT'S WHEN WE'LL BE JOSH WILL BE IN TOUCH. OKAY. OKAY. THANK [2. Public Hearing – 7:00 P.M., Planning Board to review and provide a recommendation on approval for an addition and other exterior improvements to Harvest Bible Chapel located at 3688 South Park Ave in the Village of Blasdell] YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY. OUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING IS FOR HARVEST BIBLE CHAPEL, LOCATED AT 3688 SOUTH PARK AVENUE AT VILLAGE OF BLASDELL. LET ME GET MY PAPERWORK IN ORDER HERE. SO THIS APPLICANT WAS IN FRONT OF US LAST MEETING. IN REGARDS TO THE CHANGES OF THIS BUILDING THAT THEY ARE MAKING. AND TONIGHT WE'RE DOING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS PROJECT. SO. AUGIE, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ THE PUBLIC NOTICE? LEGAL NOTICE, TOWN OF HAMBURG, PLANNING BOARD, [00:15:11] VILLAGE OF BLADES. BLAISDELL. PROJECT RECOMMENDATION NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN THAT THE TOWN OF HAMBURG PLANNING BOARD WILL CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING ON A PROPOSAL FOR AN ADDITION. RENOVATIONS TO THE MAIN CHURCH BUILDING, A NEW MAIN LOBBY, A NEW AUDITORIUM STAGE, AND OTHER INTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE HARVEST BIBLE CHAPEL, LOCATED AT 3688 SOUTH PARK AVENUE IN THE VILLAGE OF BLASDELL, THE TOWN OF HAMBURG PLANNING BOARD PROVIDES ADVISORY RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT, WHICH HANDLES THE VILLAGE OF BLAISDELL PROJECTS. THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER 4TH, 2026 AT 7 P.M. IN ROOM 7A7B OF THE TOWN OF HAMBURG TOWN HALL. OKAY. AS PREVIOUSLY STATED, A PUBLIC HEARING IS TO. IN ORDER TO HEAR FROM ALL RESIDENTS AT A REASONABLE HOUR, A THREE MINUTE RULE WILL APPLY. A PUBLIC HEARING IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMPANY. FOR THE COMMUNITY TO SHARE INFORMATION ON HOW THEY. HOW THEY ARE IMPACTED BY THE PROJECT. IT IS NOT A QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD. ALL STATEMENTS MADE DURING THE HEARING, AS WELL AS WRITTEN CORRESPONDENCE, WILL BE SENT TO THE PLANNING BOARD AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT FOR RESPONSE. SO I'M NOW GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE HARVEST BIBLE CHAPEL, LOCATED AT 3688 SOUTH PARK AVENUE IN THE VILLAGE OF BLAISDELL. IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS PROJECT? SECOND CALL FOR THE HARVEST BIBLE CHAPEL. ARE YOU DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT, WELL, COME ON UP AND GRAB THE MIC. SORRY I DIDN'T SEE YOU. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. DON'T WORRY. OKAY. I WAS JUST SEEING IF ANYONE ELSE WAS COMING TO SPEAK. OH. YOU'RE SHY? YES. YOU DIDN'T TAKE THE PUBLIC HEARING CLASS IN HIGH SCHOOL? I DID NOT. OKAY, WELL, WE'RE NOT HERE TO GRADE, SO CAN YOU HEAR? EVERYONE HEAR ME? ALL RIGHT. WE CAN HEAR YOU JUST FINE. PERFECT. MY NAME IS JACOB STERLING. I LIVE ACROSS THE STREET FROM IT. I'M JUST KIND OF. REPEAT YOUR NAME, SIR JACOB STERLING. OKAY. DO YOU NEED ANY SPELLING OR ARE YOU GOOD? NO, I CAN DO THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO YOU WANT TO SPEAK UP INTO THE MIC SO EVERYBODY CAN HEAR YOU. OKAY. I LIVE ACROSS THE STREET JUST WONDERING, LIKE, HOW MANY SERVICES THEY PLAN ON HAVING, JUST HOW BUSY IT'S GOING TO BE WITH THE OLD CHURCH STARTING TO GET NOT AS BUSY. SO THEY ONLY ONLY HAD A COUPLE SERVICES AND THEY WERE AT REASONABLE TIMES. JUST WONDERING HOW LONG I SAW IN THE PICTURES CLASSROOMS. IS THAT JUST FOR SUNDAY SCHOOL? JUST STUFF LIKE THAT. JUST WONDERING HOW IT'S GOING TO BE AND JUST HOW BUSY, HOW LATE THEY WOULD HAVE ANYTHING. JUST THE NORMAL STUFF THAT EVERYONE KIND OF WANTS TO KNOW WHEN STUFF'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THEM. OKAY. AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER THING IS JUST WITH IT BEING BUSY. I KNOW THE CHURCH USED TO HAVE A POLICE THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF A LOT OF THE LOCAL ACROSS THE STREET WILL BE WALKING THERE OR NOT. AS FAR AS PUBLIC SAFETY FOR WALKING, I KNOW THERE IS A CROSSWALK. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'LL PUT A SIGN BACK UP OR ONE OF THOSE HAWKEYE THINGS OR WHATEVER, TO WHERE PEOPLE PRESS A BUTTON TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SAFE TO CROSS BECAUSE DON'T WANT TO SEE ANY PROBLEMS AND PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE TO GO THE SPEED LIMIT ON SOUTH PARK. SO THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. I WILL TELL YOU, SIR, THAT AND THIS IS A LITTLE OUT OF ORDINARY. SO BUT I EDIT OUR WEBSITE, THE TOWN OF HAMBURG WEBSITE UNDER PLANNING. THERE IS A VIDEO OF THE LAST MEETING. OKAY. AND SO YOU CAN GO AND WATCH THEIR PRESENTATION. AND A LOT OF THAT'S GOING TO GET ANSWERED. BUT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE BECAUSE THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND YOU POSE THOSE QUESTIONS, THE APPLICANT WILL ADDRESS THOSE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE I CAN'T SEE BEHIND THE PODIUM. SO COME ON UP. OKAY. OKAY. MY NAME IS LOU MCDONALD. I'M MCDONALD. I ALSO LIVE ACROSS THE STREET AND LIKE THE GENTLEMAN JUST SAID, THAT CROSSWALK IS DANGEROUS BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T STOP. THEY SEE THE LIGHT AT SOUTH PARK AND LAKE BLOW RIGHT THROUGH IT. YOU HAVE PEDESTRIANS IN THE CROSSWALK, KIDS ON BICYCLES IN THE CROSSWALK. CARS GO RIGHT BY HIM. GO RIGHT AROUND THEM. IF NOTHING ELSE, THERE NEEDS TO BE A SYSTEM IN PLACE TO STOP TRAFFIC. AND I DON'T MEAN JUST A SIGN SAYING, PLEASE DON'T RUN ME OVER. YOU NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING TO STOP TRAFFIC, BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY HAD SOME PEOPLE HIT AND KILLED IN THAT SAME AREA. WE DON'T WANT ANY MORE. THAT'S THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? ANYONE ELSE HIDING BEHIND THE [00:20:10] PODIUM, PERHAPS? NO. OKAY. FINAL CALL FOR THE HARVEST BIBLE CHAPEL, LOCATED AT 3688 SOUTH PARK AVENUE IN VILLAGE BLASDELL. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT IF THEY ARE COMFORTABLE IN ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS. YOU DON'T HAVE TO. YOU CAN GIVE US A WRITTEN RESPONSE AND SEND IT TO JOSH, WHATEVER, BUT BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE TWO PEOPLE, THIS IS AN UNUSUAL PUBLIC HEARING WHERE WE ONLY HAVE TWO PEOPLE. SO I GIVE THE APPLICANT THE OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS DOUGLAS KLOTZBACH. I'M WITH K TWO ARCHITECTURE. THAT'S KLOTZBACH. YEAH, LAST WEEK WE TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS. WE DID TALK ABOUT THE PARKING, AND THAT'S A CONCERN OF OURS AS WELL. WE'RE TAKING UP THE IDEA OF WHAT THE PREVIOUS, YOU KNOW, CHURCH HAD DONE. ONE THING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO REALIZE IS THE PREVIOUS CHURCH ALSO HAD 550 SEATS, WHERE WE'RE BRINGING IT DOWN AND CAPABILITY. 550 THAT'S AT 22IN PER PEW. AND ACTUALLY PEW, YOU CAN BRING IT DOWN TO 18 VERSUS A SEAT THAT'S ACTUALLY 22. BUT THE WAY WE'VE ARRANGED THE AUDITORIUM IS IT'S A RADIO AUDITORIUM. IT'S NOT LINEAR. SO YOU CAN YOU DON'T FIT AS MANY. WE HAVE RIGHT AROUND 320 DESIGNED FOR THAT. AND THAT'S FULL CAPACITY. AND IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CHURCH AUDIENCE, USUALLY 80% IS THE IS THE GOING RATE. AND THEN AFTER THAT, YOU DON'T GROW ANYMORE UNTIL YOU DO A THING OR ADD ANOTHER SERVICE. NOW AS FAR AS TIMING, THEY'RE GOING TO BE SUNDAY MORNING. AND I BELIEVE RIGHT NOW THEY'RE SCHEDULED. THEY'RE ONLY AT AROUND 200, 150 TO 200. THEY'RE AT ORCHARD PARK TOWN HALL. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THEM. THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE THEY'RE HAVING THEIR SERVICES RIGHT NOW. AND, AND RIGHT NOW THEY ONLY HAVE ONE SERVICE AT 10:00, I BELIEVE IT IS. AND THEY'LL HAVE JUST ONE LIKE THAT. IF THEY DO GROW, THEY'LL PROBABLY GO INTO TWO SERVICES. BUT THAT WOULD BE ONLY ON SUNDAY MORNING. NOT ANY OTHER TIMES. THEY'LL PROBABLY BE A GATHERING ONCE IN A WHILE IN THE EVENING, PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER TIME. LIKE THEY'LL HAVE A PROBABLY SOME HOLIDAY DURING THE HOLIDAY. THEY'LL HAVE A GATHERING AT NIGHT OR CANDLELIGHT SERVICE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO THERE WILL BE EVENTS THAT WILL HAPPEN, BUT NOT ON A REGULAR BASIS. AND THERE WILL BE SMALL ACTIVITIES IN THE TO TO ADDRESS THE IDEA OF HOW WHAT THE HOURS ARE, THERE'LL BE LIKE SMALL GROUPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WE'RE TRYING TO SET UP FOR THAT, BUT THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO DAYCARE THERE. THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THE ONLY SUNDAY SCHOOL ITEMS THAT ARE GOING TO HAPPEN IS ARE ON SUNDAY MORNING IN THE CLASSROOMS. SO THAT'S REALLY IT. AND THE STAFF WILL BE THERE. THERE'S 4 OR 5 STAFF RIGHT NOW THAT WILL BE OCCUPYING THE OLD RECTORY. AND WE IDENTIFIED THAT AS THE PASTOR'S STUDY AND THE STAFF STUDY. SO IF YOU LOOK ON THE FLOOR PLAN, THAT'S WHAT WE ADDRESSED. SO I THINK I'VE GOT MOST QUESTIONS ON THAT. WELL, THE ONLY THING I'M GOING TO ADD IS THAT IF THERE IS A SPEEDING OR PEDESTRIAN AND DANGER PROBLEM, I THINK A CALL TO THE BLAISDELL POLICE, THERE ARE BLAISDELL POLICE, ARE THEY NOT? HAMBURG DOESN'T MONITOR THAT. YEAH. SO HOPEFULLY IT'LL BE A SMALLER I MEAN, ON SUNDAY MORNING THERE'S LESS TRAFFIC THAN THAN NORMAL HOPEFULLY. BUT I CAN APPRECIATE BOTH BOTH RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, THEY LIVE THERE SO THEY SEE IT. SO AND I'M GOING TO ENCOURAGE THOSE RESIDENTS TO CALL YOUR LOCAL POLICE OFFICERS. THE OTHER THING IS TO YOU MAY WANT TO AND THIS IS JUST A SUGGESTION. YOU MAY WANT TO ADVISE THE CHURCH TO LET BLAISDELL KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE BACK IN OPERATION AND THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE RUNNING A SUNDAY SERVICE. SO THAT MIGHT BE JUST SOMETHING WORKING WITH THE WITH THE LOCAL PD. AND I DON'T KNOW THE TWO FELLOWS HERE, BUT THEY, I, THEY HAVE GO SEE PASTOR. HE'S THERE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY RIGHT NOW AND THEY COULD TALK IT OVER WITH THEM. OH, OKAY. ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES BECAUSE HE'S WILLING TO YOU KNOW, RICKY'S A A REALLY OPEN GUY. HE'S A HE'S A PEOPLE PERSON. OKAY. SO SO PASTOR RICKY, RICKY, AND HE'S THERE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. YUP. AND IF THE TWO GENTLEMEN THAT LIVE ACROSS THE STREET WANT TO GO AND WORK WITH HIM AND, AND LET HIM KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOUR CONCERNS, HE CAN SO THEY CAN CONTACT PD AND THEN YOU GUYS CAN WORK TOGETHER. ABSOLUTELY. AND AS WELL AS ANYBODY ELSE IN THE COMMUNITY. I MEAN, IT'S A COMMUNITY CHURCH. I MEAN THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. SO. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JOSH, DO WE HAVE A RESOLUTION FOR. YEAH. SO LIKE I SAID, THIS ONE IS A LITTLE UNUSUAL WHERE THE WHOLE REASON WE'RE EVEN REVIEWING THIS PROJECT, RIGHT, BECAUSE IT'S IN THE VILLAGE OF BLAISDELL IS BECAUSE THE VILLAGE DISSOLVED THEIR PLANNING BOARD. WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT FOR THIS BOARD TO REVIEW THOSE PROJECTS TO ADDRESS THE ONE NEIGHBORS CONCERN ABOUT. IT'S LIKE SAFETY ON, YOU KNOW, THE CROSSWALK THINGS ON SOUTH PARK. THIS BOARD CERTAINLY CAN RECOMMEND TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER [00:25:04] WHO ALSO HAPPENS TO WORK FOR THE TOWN OF HAMBURG, BUT DOES. VILLAGE OF BLAISDELL PROJECTS TO COORDINATE WITH D.O.T. OBVIOUSLY, ANYTHING THAT GOES ON THE SOUTH PARK WOULD HAVE TO HAVE COORDINATION WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WHEN THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER IS REVIEWING THE PLANS, WORKING ON PERMITTING THAT HE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, REACH OUT TO DOT ON HIS OWN ACCORD. SO THAT'S JUST A SUGGESTION FOR THE BOARD. I LEFT SOME SPACE IN THE RECOMMENDATION FOR, AS ALWAYS, BECAUSE IT'S AN ADVISORY RECOMMENDATION, YOU CAN LEAVE, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT YOU WANT THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT, BUT JUST FOR THE PUBLIC'S BENEFIT, THIS IS NOT AN APPROVAL PER SE. THIS IS MORE SO THE TOWN JUST PROVIDING AN ADVISORY ROLE IN TERMS OF REVIEWING THIS PROJECT. JUST BECAUSE BLAISDELL DOESN'T HAVE A PLANNING BOARD ANYMORE. SO CAN WE ADD THAT ABOUT THE DOT ON THERE? BOARD MEMBERS? DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU'D LIKE TO ADD IT ON THERE? ANY OTHER CONCERNS, QUESTIONS, RECOMMENDATIONS? NO. CHAIR NO, NO. OKAY. SO I THINK THE BIGGEST THING IS ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATION AS A MEMBER OF THE WHEN IT WAS A FORMER CHURCH, SUNDAY MORNING WAS REALLY DIFFICULT GETTING OUT ON THE SOUTH PARK. AND WHEN THE PRIEST AT THE TIME REQUIRED THE BLAISDELL POLICE TO BE PRESENT, THERE WAS A POLICE OFFICER THERE FOR ALL THREE SERVICES, SLOWING THE TRAFFIC DOWN, STOPPING TRAFFIC TO LET THE CARS COME OUT OF THE PARKING LOT. SO IF IT'S IF NO BLAISDELL IS NOTIFIED, THEY WILL COOPERATE. YEAH, WE'LL WE'LL TAKE THAT ACCOUNT AND I'LL MAKE SURE THE PASTOR KNOWS THAT AS WELL. AND WHY JOSH IS TYPING THAT FINAL ITEM. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE CAN THERE NEEDS TO BE ANYTHING ELSE. UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE CAN THINK OF SOMETHING THAT. I KNOW ALL OF YOU WANT TO READ THIS, BUT ONLY ONE OF YOU CAN. SO WHO'S GOING TO VOLUNTEER? I MAKE A LIKE MAKING THIS IS AN EMOTION, RIGHT? EVEN THOUGH THIS ISN'T OFFICIAL, YOU GOTTA WAIT UNTIL HE GETS DONE TYPING BEFORE YOU START RATTLING IT OFF. I'LL DO IT. OH. ALL RIGHT, WELL, HANG ON, LET'S LET JOSH FINISH HIS TYPING. JOSH. SUCH COOPERATION. SO RIGHT NOW I JUST HAVE THE PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDS THE TOWN CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER RESPONSIBLE FOR BLAISDELL PROJECTS AND PERMITTING. COORDINATE WITH THE NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION REGARDING PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ALONG SOUTH PARK. YES. AND THEN IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN. I DON'T KNOW IF WE DON'T IF WE WANT THIS IN THE RESOLUTION, BUT MAYBE A RECOMMENDATION ABOUT REACHING OUT TO BLAISDELL LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT, SINCE THERE WAS PROBLEMS IN THE PAST BASED ON THIS CONVERSATION, HOW WOULD YOU RECOMMEND THAT WE HANDLE THAT? BECAUSE IT'S A RECOMMENDATION. YOU CAN CERTAINLY ADD ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION SAYING THAT YOU JUST RECOMMEND. NOW, WHO WOULD YOU WANT COORDINATING WITH BLAISDELL PD, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, THE APPLICANT? WELL, I THINK THE I THINK IT WOULD BE THE CHURCH. IT WOULD BE THE APPLICANT CHURCH. OKAY. AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT THE PRIEST DID 15 YEARS AGO. SO PLANNING BOARD. THE APPLICANT, COORDINATE WITH BLAISDELL PD IN REGARDS TO THE CROSSWALK ON SUNDAY MORNINGS. CROSSING AND TRAFFIC FLOW. RIGHT TO SOUTH PARK. REGARDING CROSSWALK ON SOUTH PARK AND TRAFFIC FLOW. I THINK THAT WOULD. OKAY. ARE WE GOOD TO GO? YEAH. OKAY. MEMBER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION? I MAKE THE MOTION TO FOR THE PLANNING BOARD DEPARTMENT'S RECOMMENDATION. OKAY. YOU HAVE TO READ THE PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDATION. HARVEST BIBLE CHAPEL ADDITIONS AND OTHER IMPROVEMENTS AT 3688 SOUTH PARK AVENUE. NOVEMBER 4TH, 2026. THE TOWN OF HAMBURG PLANNING [00:30:07] DEPARTMENT RECEIVED A SITE PLAN APPLICATION FROM K2 ARCHITECTURE ON BEHALF OF HARVEST BIBLE CHAPEL FOR AN ADDITION THAT WILL CONDUCT THE ADMINISTRATIVE AND YOUTH BUILDING TO CHILDREN'S WING ON THE CAMPUS. WORK WILL ALSO INCLUDE RENOVATIONS TO THE MAIN CHURCH BUILDING, A NEW LOBBY, A NEW AUDITORIUM AND STAGE, AND OTHER INTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS, ALL TO BE LOCATED AT 3688 SOUTH PARK AVENUE IN THE VILLAGE OF BLAISDELL. GIVEN THAT THE VILLAGE OF BLAISDELL DISSOLVED THE PLANNING BOARD, THE TOWN OF HAMBURG PLANNING BOARD, VILLAGE REVIEWS VILLAGE PROJECTS AND TYPICALLY OFFERS RECOMMENDATIONS ON APPROVAL, WHICH GOES BACK TO THE TOWN'S CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT, WHICH HANDLES THE ENFORCEMENT AND BUILDING PERMITS. IN THE VILLAGE OF BLAISDELL, THE TOWN OF HAMBURG PLANNING BOARD HAS THOROUGHLY REVIEWED THE PROPOSAL FOR HARVEST BIBLE CHAPEL AT 3688 SOUTH PARK AVENUE IN THE VILLAGE OF BLAISDELL AND HAS THE FOLLOWING RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS ONE. THE PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDS THE TOWN CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER RESPONSIBLE FOR BLAISDELL PROJECTS AND PERMITTING. COORDINATE WITH NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION REGARDING PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ALONG SOUTH PARK AVENUE TWO. THE PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDS THE APPLICANT. THE APPLICANT. COORDINATE WITH THE BLAISDELL POLICE DEPARTMENT REGARDING THE CROSSWALK ON SOUTH PARK AND TRAFFIC FLOW. THE TOWN OF HAMBURG PLANNING BOARD HEREBY AUTHORIZES THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO TRANSMIT THIS RECOMMENDATION TO THE TOWN CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER RESPONSIBLE FOR THE VILLAGE OF BLAISDELL. PROJECTS AND PERMITS AND AUTHORIZES THE FILING OF THIS RECOMMENDATION INTO THE TOWN'S RECORDS. IT'S BEEN MOVED BY MEMBER GERACI. IS THERE A SECOND MEMBER, RYAN? SECONDS IT. IT'S BEEN MOVED. AND SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? RECOMMENDATION APPROVED AND READY TO GO. SEND. THERE YOU GO. GET A COPY OF THAT OR YOU CAN SEND IT TO ME. ALL RIGHT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE [3. Briad Development LLC – Requesting Site Plan Approval and Special Use Permit Approval for the development of a small-scale traveler center, anchored by an 8,700 sq-ft building to include several quick-service restaurant (QSR) establishments, separate fuel pump stations, and other associated parking and site improvements to be located the intersection of Southwestern Blvd and Big Tree Road (SBL #: 160.18-1- 9.1)] THE PASTOR GETS IT. YEP. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND GOOD LUCK. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY. MOVING RIGHT ALONG. OUR NEXT CASE IS BRAD DEVELOPMENT, LLC REQUESTING SITE PLAN APPROVAL AND SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPROVAL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A SMALL SCALE TRAVELER CENTER ANCHORED BY AN 8700 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING TO INCLUDE SEVEN QUICK SERVICE RESTAURANTS. AND TONIGHT, WE ARE. WE HAD A PUBLIC HEARING ON OCTOBER 21ST, AND WE. GOT SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION BACK. OH, HELLO. HELLO. I THINK FOR SOME REASON I DIDN'T THINK THEY WERE COMING HERE TONIGHT, SO THEY SENT US BACK THE SNOW REMOVAL PLAN. AND BOARD MEMBERS YOU GOT IN YOUR PACKET THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. SO WITHOUT ANY FURTHER ADO, I WILL LET THE PERSON STANDING AT THE PODIUM, MEMBER OR ATTORNEY. HOPKINS. I'M ALL RIGHT. YES. SO VERY BRIEFLY, GOOD EVENING, PLANNING BOARD CHAIRPERSON, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING BOARD, SEAN HOPKINS ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, BRAD DEVELOPMENT, LLC. ALSO WITH ME IS CONNOR SHAGO FROM THE CIVIL ENGINEERING FIRM. AS YOU INDICATED, A PUBLIC HEARING WAS PREVIOUSLY HELD. THERE HAVE BEEN SOME MINOR REFINEMENTS THAT WERE MADE. I THINK THE SNOW STORAGE PLAN. I THINK CAMMIE MAY HAVE PROVIDED SOME INPUT. WAS IT CAMMIE ON THE LANDSCAPING? I THINK, OR WAS IT YOU, JOSH? JOSH'S OFFICE? YEAH. I WAS LIKE, WHAT? WE MADE THOSE MINOR ADJUSTMENTS. WE'RE. COME ON UP. NELSON. YEAH, GIVE YOUR NAME. CONNOR. THE DESIGN ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT. WE DID MAKE THE. I GUESS YOU JUST HAVE TO USE YOUR OUTSIDE VOICE, PLEASE. WE WE DID USE OR DID MAKE THE CHANGES TO THE LANDSCAPE PLAN TO CHANGE OUT THE SAGEBRUSH TO THE LAVENDER, BUT I HAVE NOT HAD THE TIME YET TO ADDRESS THE NEW SET OF COMMENTS YET. OKAY, CONNOR, WHAT WAS YOUR LAST NAME? SHAGO CHAWGO. OKAY. THE PROJECT ENGINEER. SO AS YOU KNOW, THIS WAS PREVIOUSLY REZONE FROM C1 TO C2. I THINK THE TOWN BOARD IMPOSED 12 CONDITIONS, ISSUED A NEGATIVE DECLARATION THAT WAS BASED ON YOUR RECOMMENDATION. WE'RE HERE THIS EVENING SEEKING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND SITE PLAN APPROVAL. WE DID ADD THE SIDEWALK ALONG BIG TREE ROAD, AS YOU RECALL. AND THE BIGGEST REMAINING TOPIC THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH IS OBVIOUSLY THE CURB CUTS ONTO BOTH BIG TREE AND SOUTHWESTERN. WE'VE [00:35:04] BEEN DILIGENTLY TRYING TO GET INPUT FROM DOT, ALONG WITH MANY OTHER PROJECTS IN WEST NEW YORK. IN FACT, I SENT THEM AN EMAIL. SINCE THIS MEETING BEGAN. HOW I BELIEVE WE'VE DISCUSSED IT PREVIOUSLY IS IF THE PLANNING BOARD GRANTS SITE PLAN APPROVAL AND IF DOT COMES BACK WITH A POSITION THAT'S SUBSTANTIVELY DIFFERENT THAN THE ACCESS THAT WE'RE SHOWING BOTH ON THE BIG TREE AND SOUTHWESTERN, THEN THAT WOULD REQUIRE US TO COME BACK IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD. AS I'VE INDICATED, WE'VE MAXIMIZED THE DISTANCE OF THOSE DRIVEWAYS FROM THE SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION. GIVEN THAT IT'S A CORNER, GIVEN THE NATURE OF THE USE, I DO BELIEVE ULTIMATELY THAT DOT WILL APPROVE BOTH CURB CUTS. OTHER THAN THAT, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THEM. OKAY. THANK YOU. JOSH, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO OFFER? SURE. SO JUST TO KIND OF RECAP WHAT THE BOARD REQUESTED FROM THE LAST MEETING THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDED, ONE OF THE THINGS THE BOARD ASKED FOR WAS THE EXTENDED SIDEWALK FROM SOUTHWESTERN ALONG TO BIG TREE, WHERE THE CURB CUT IS PROPOSED ON THE BIG TREE, WHICH WAS PROVIDED, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE ON THE SCREEN, WHEN WE GET TO THE RESOLUTION, A LOT OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT WERE CONDITIONS. ONE OF THE CONDITIONS THAT I ADDED THAT MR. HOPKINS POINTED TO WAS THAT. AND I'LL GET TO IT IN SPECIFICS, BUT ESSENTIALLY WHAT IT SAYS IS SHOULD DOT, YOU KNOW, REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, ONE LESS DRIVEWAY OR HAVE ANY KIND OF ADJUSTMENTS TO EITHER OF THE DRIVEWAYS AND THE APPLICANT CHOOSES TO GO FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT BECAUSE IT'S BEEN MENTIONED BEFORE THAT IF THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS, THEY MAY PURSUE IT. THEY MAY NOT. I HAVE A CONDITION IN THERE THAT SHOULD THEY PURSUE THE PROJECT AND DOT DOESN'T GIVE BOTH ACCESS TO BOTH ROADS, THAT THEY WOULD COME BACK TO THE PLANNING BOARD. THAT'S A TYPICAL CONDITION THAT WE'VE PUT ON OTHER PROJECTS. SIMILAR LANDSCAPING CONDITION MEMBERS MENTIONED THE LAVENDER, WHICH THEY DID INTO A LANDSCAPING PLAN. MY OFFICE DOES HAVE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS WHO THEN REVIEWED THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, FURTHER GAVE FURTHER COMMENTS TO THE APPLICANT WHO'S ADDRESSING THAT AS A PART OF THE ENGINEERING APPROVAL. AND THEN THE SNOW STORAGE WAS REQUESTED ON THE SITE PLAN, WHICH I BELIEVE CAMMIE ALSO PROVIDED COMMENTS ON WHICH IS ON THE SITE PLAN, I BELIEVE IN FRONT OF WHERE LIKE THAT KIND OF BACK LIKE IN THE BACK PART. I WANT TO SAY FROM FOR ROLL CALL, IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE HERE ISH. THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. SO THAT'S WHERE HERE, JUST FOR THE RECORD, IS WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING HAVING THE SNOW STORAGE, WHICH WAS REQUESTED BY THIS BOARD. AND THEN I PUT A OR I MENTIONED A NUMBER OF CONDITIONS THAT YOU'LL NOTICE, WHETHER IT'S IN THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT SECTION OR WHETHER IT'S IN THE SITE PLAN SECTION THAT WE CAN DISCUSS IN DETAIL. AND THEN THE LAST THING THAT I'LL MENTION IS THAT I DID ADD A CONDITION THAT THEY DO STILL HAVE TO MEET THE REZONING CONDITIONS THAT WERE APPLIED BY THE TOWN BOARD. SO WHERE WE ARE IS WE'VE HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE CAN DISCUSS ANY ADDITIONS TO THE CONDITIONS OF THE SITE PLAN OR THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPROVAL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TONIGHT. AND I JUST WANT TO REITERATE, THE PROJECT IS DEPENDENT ON BOTH CURB CUTS. SO WE'RE LITERALLY WE'RE NOT GOING TO COME BACK IN FRONT OF YOU WITH A SINGLE CURB CUT AT EITHER SOUTHWESTERN OR BIG TREE. WE NEED BOTH. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT FROM TRACTOR TRAILER ACCESS, IT'S KIND OF DEPENDENT ON THAT. OKAY. I THINK WE PRETTY MUCH DISCUSSED THAT THE LAST TIME YOU WERE HERE. KAMI, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? ARE YOU OKAY WITH THE SNOW REMOVAL PLAN? YES. I'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH THEIR ENGINEER. I AM HAPPY WITH WHAT THEY PROVIDED. OKAY. AND DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD? NOPE. MY ENGINEERING LETTER AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS, JUST STATES WILL CONDUCT OUR MORE DETAILED REVIEW AS THE PROJECT MOVES FORWARD. BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, I HAVE NO COMMENTS. OKAY. THANK YOU. THE ONLY OTHER THING I'LL ADD IS I TRIED TO MAKE OUR RESOLUTIONS LOOK A LITTLE BIT MORE PROFESSIONAL, SO FEEL FREE TO COMMENT ON WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE. SO NOW IT'S 15 PAGES INSTEAD OF TWO. NOW IT'S A LOT, A LITTLE BIT LONGER, BUT AT LEAST IT LOOKS A LITTLE BIT BETTER. OTHER MUNICIPALITIES HAVE STARTED AT FIVE. YEAH, AT LEAST OTHER MUNICIPALITIES HAVE THE SEAL. I USUALLY JUST DO A WORD DOC. SO I'M TRYING TO MAKE IT LOOK A LITTLE BIT BETTER. SO I WONDERED, OKAY, OKAY. NOW YOU BLEW MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT IN TERMS OF. SO JUST IN TERMS OF THE, THE DIFFERENT SECTIONS. SO THIS ONE IS LONGER BEFORE YOU GO THERE. YEAH. I HAVE TO ASK. OH SORRY. MY BAD. YOU'RE OUT OF TURN. SO BOARD MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD OR DETRACT. WHATEVER. ANY COMMENTS? MEMBER? SHIMURA I'M CONFUSED AS TO LIKE, WHERE IS THE ACTUAL SNOW REMOVAL MANAGEMENT PLAN? BECAUSE IT'S NOT ACTUALLY STATED UNLESS I'M MISSING ONE OF THE NOTES ON THE SITE PLAN IN THE AREA, I MIGHT BE MISSING IT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT GOING ON. IT WAS HARD FOR ME TO SEE IT AS WELL. AS A MATTER OF FACT, I HAD TO ASK MY FRIENDLY PLANNER. SO DOES SOMEBODY WANT TO? SO WHERE IS IT? IS IT OKAY IF CONNOR GOES AND POINTS TO IT? SURE. YEAH, SURE YOU CAN. YOU CAN BE THE HE CAN BE THE VANNA AND YOU CAN BE THE MICROPHONE. AM I START DANCING. ALL RIGHT. CONNOR. OH, I GOT THAT TIRE. I GUESS FOR SNOW REMOVAL. I, I DON'T REMEMBER, I GUESS [00:40:02] POINTING IT OUT ON THE PLAN. I GUESS I JUST REMEMBER TALKING WITH CAMMY AGREEING THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE OUR SNOW REMOVAL KIND OF BE ALONG HERE KIND OF NEXT WITH THE PEA GRAVEL. AND THAT WE MADE AN AGREEMENT THAT UPON REQUEST OF THE TOWN, WE WILL REPAIR IT EVERY WINTER SEASON. SO ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE SNOW REMOVED OUT OF THAT OFF YOUR PROJECT, OFF THE LOT, OR ARE YOU JUST GOING TO PILE IT BACK THERE? SO SNOW WOULD BE PILED THERE, EXCEPT IN THOSE IN HERE TO GET THEM WHERE THERE'S ONE OF THOSE MAJOR, MAJOR SNOWSTORM THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE TRUCKED OFF. YEAH. OKAY. DO WE WANT THAT IN OUR RESOLUTION? I GUESS MY POINT IS THAT WE HAD BENDERSON DEVELOP AN ACTUAL PLAN THAT CALLED OUT THE LOCATION IN WHICH THERE WAS GOING TO BE SNOW REMOVAL, AND SO THAT IT WAS VERY CLEAR AND THAT THE FACT THAT WE DID REQUEST A PROVIDE SNOW REMOVAL MANAGEMENT PLAN. AND IT'S NOT CLEAR. I KNOW CAMMY, RIGHT. YOU DO FEEL COMFORTABLE BASED UPON THE CONVERSATIONS THAT YOU HAD, BUT ALSO RIGHT, THE POINT THAT MEMBER ZAJAC MADE ABOUT PLOWING OVER PEA GRAVEL IS NOT THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY FROM A MAINTENANCE STANDPOINT. I JUST DON'T KNOW IF I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE SITE PLAN WITHOUT IT BEING DOCUMENTED, SINCE IT WAS A PART OF OUR CONVERSATIONS AND WE DID REQUEST IT. I GUESS. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO HANG ON? I THAT'S THE PREROGATIVE OF THE PLANNING BOARD. OKAY. IF YOU WANT TO SEE A PHYSICAL SNOW REMOVAL PLAN, YOU CAN ASK FOR ONE. I BELIEVE THAT'S EVEN HOW WE MODIFIED THE CODE, WAS THAT IT COULD BE REQUESTED BY THE PLANNING BOARD THERE. THERE'S NO SPECIFIC ENGINEERING REQUIREMENT TO A SNOW REMOVAL PLAN. SO IT'S ABSOLUTELY UP TO THIS GROUP. I HAD ALSO MENTIONED THE PEA GRAVEL DOES GET DAMAGED. WE I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH CONNOR ABOUT LOWERING IT A LITTLE BIT SO THAT IT WILL LIMIT HOW MUCH DAMAGE THAT ACTUALLY HAS, AND WORKING WITH THEIR PLOW DRIVERS TO ENSURE THEY'RE AWARE OF THE FACT THAT IT'S THERE AND THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THOSE WHOEVER DOES THE THE LONG TERM PLOWING TO TRY TO LIMIT DAMAGE, BUT THE TOWN IS ACTUALLY REQUIRED TO CHECK ON STORMWATER, PRIVATE STORMWATER SYSTEMS. SO AT ANY POINT IN TIME, I CAN SEND SOMEONE FROM ENGINEERING TO LOOK AT THE SITE. AND IF THAT PEA GRAVEL DIAPHRAGM, WHICH IS PART OF THEIR STORMWATER REQUIREMENTS, IS DAMAGED, I CAN REQUIRE THAT THEY REPAIR IT. SO AGAIN, THAT'S NOT THAT'S HARD TO CAPTURE ON A PLAN. YEAH. SO THAT'S, THAT'S MORE OF HOW WE HANDLE IT. BY POLICY. YOU CAN PILE SNOW ON TOP OF PEA GRAVEL AS A PART OF STORMWATER. YOU CAN. SO IT ALLOWS IT TO LIKE MELT AND INFILTRATE SORT OF THING. YEAH. PEA GRAVEL IS INTENT MORE TO LIKE SLOW IT DOWN. SO AGAIN, WHAT'S COMING OFF THE PAVEMENT WILL STILL COME OFF THE PAVEMENT AND HIT THAT FIRST. WHAT'S PILED ON IT? SOME OF IT WILL AND SOME OF IT WON'T. BUT THE STORM DRAINAGE SYSTEM IS RIGHT THERE. AND OBVIOUSLY THOSE SYSTEMS GO THROUGH WINTERS, YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR IN THIS AREA. SO IT IS NOT SOMETHING WHERE YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE SNOW NEAR THEM. YOU JUST CAN'T PUSH THE SNOW INTO THE STORM WATER SYSTEM, SUCH AS THE BIORETENTION OR THE POND. OKAY, SO MY QUESTION THEN OFF OF THAT IS, IS THIS GOING TO BE MARKED DURING THE WINTER? BECAUSE SNOW PLOW DRIVERS DON'T REALLY PAY ATTENTION. AND WHEN YOU GET 15FT, SO ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE A SNOW MARKER, A SNOW MARKING SYSTEM ON THE PROJECT? I'M SURE I, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE JUST A CAUTIONARY MEASURE. REMEMBER, YOU GENERALLY YOU HIRE A CONTRACTOR FOR THE SEASON AND THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING. THAT'S. WELL, THEY USUALLY WILL FLOAT THE PLOW, ESPECIALLY ON PEA GRAVEL. I PLOW FOR A LIVING IN THE WINTER. AND YOUR BIKE. I'M SORRY. WE FLOAT OUR PLOWS. WE GO UP MAYBE AN INCH OR TWO AND JUST LEAVE A LITTLE BIT OF STONE, A LITTLE BIT OF SNOW ON THE GRAVEL SO YOU'RE NOT DIGGING INTO THE GRAVEL. I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON. SO THE REASON WHY I'M BRINGING THIS UP IS BECAUSE I'M A HOMEOWNER AND I DEAL WITH PLOW DRIVERS, AND THEY'RE NOT AS GOOD AS YOU. BUT MY POINT IS, IS THAT I DON'T WANT IT. LATER ON, THAT ENGINEERING GOES OUT AND SAYS, THIS IS DAMAGED. AND THEY SAY, OH, THE SNOWPLOW DRIVER DID IT. IT'S STILL THE IT'S STILL THE APPLICANT'S RESPONSIBILITY. IT WOULD BE OUR RESPONSIBILITY. OKAY. RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WELL, WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS ENOUGH. ARE YOU OKAY WITH NOT HAVING IT SPELLED OUT MEMBERSHIP, OR WOULD YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERN WITH A CONDITION, MAYBE IN THE SITE PLAN THAT THE APPLICANT UPDATE THE SITE PLAN WITH A SITE PLAN? NOTE TYPICALLY THEY HAVE NOTES THAT SPEAK TO NUMBER FOUR SAYS SNOW STORAGE. AND HAVING SOMETHING LIKE THAT AS A CONDITION. YES, YES. OKAY. OKAY. ANY OKAY. GOOD. ANY ANYTHING ELSE? BOARD MEMBERS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS COMMENTS CONCERNS. [00:45:01] NOW'S THE TIME. DO YOU WANT TO ADD THAT TO ARE YOU IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT? YEAH. SO JUST TO ORIENT OURSELVES, THE THE FIRST PIECE OF THIS VERY LONG RESOLUTION IS SEEKER. THIS JUST CONCURS THAT THE PLANNING BOARD IS IN AGREEMENT WITH THE TOWN BOARD ISSUING A NEGATIVE DECLARATION BACK IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR FOR THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT. IT TALKS ABOUT THE TYPICAL LANGUAGE OF 28312, WHICH ARE OUR GENERAL SPECIAL USE PERMIT STANDARDS, WHICH WE PUT ON EVERY PROJECT THAT HAS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. AND THEN WE ALWAYS JUST HIGHLIGHT RIGHT FROM THE CODE FOR THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT. 283 30 WHICH TALKS ABOUT FILLING STATIONS, GASOLINE STATIONS. OBVIOUSLY IT'S THE GAS STATION THAT TRIGGERS THE NEED FOR THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND JUST HIGHLIGHTS RIGHT IN THE CONDITION WHAT THOSE SPECIAL USE PERMIT STANDARDS ARE AND THAT THEY MEET THEM IN TERMS OF CONDITIONS, SPECIFICALLY JUST FOR THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT. I ADDED THAT, YOU KNOW, THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT CONDITIONS, IT'S BASED ON THE SITE PLAN APPROVED BY THE PLANNING BOARD, WHICH WAS DATED 1020 926, WITH ANY CONDITIONS THAT YOU ATTACH TO THE SITE PLAN. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER CONDITIONS THAT YOU WANT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, WHICH TALKS ABOUT THE GAS STATION COMPONENT. REMEMBER, I DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS. TYPEKIT THERE ARE SOME RELEVANT CONDITIONS ON THAT THAT THE TOWN BOARD IMPOSED ABOUT THE TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS AND SAFETY OF THE SYSTEM WAS ALREADY COVERED. OKAY, SO I'LL REMOVE THAT. SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THAT YOU ASKED THE BOARD IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE. WE FEEL THAT WHAT THE PLANNING WHAT THE TOWN BOARD HAS LISTED IN THIS AND THE CONDITIONS OF THE REZONING IN THE CONDITIONS THAT WE ARE ACCEPTING THEM AND WE SUPPORT THOSE CONDITIONS. OKAY, OKAY. AND THEN THE THE LAST COMPONENT IS THE SITE PLAN PIECE. THE FIRST PART OBVIOUSLY TALKS ABOUT RECEIVING A SITE PLAN APPLICATION. NOW, CAMMIE, IN TERMS OF THE ENGINEERING LETTER, THAT DATE IS 1030 TEN. AND THEN I HAVE NUMBER TWO AS THE CHAIR JUST MENTIONED, THE APPLICANT SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL THE ZONING CONDITIONS FROM THAT. APRIL 27TH, 2026 TOWN BOARD APPROVAL RESOLUTION. I WILL ALSO ATTACH IT TO THIS RESOLUTION SO THAT THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT I'VE NOTICED JUST FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. A LOT OF TIMES THINGS GET REZONED, HAVE A TON OF CONDITIONS. THEN WE DO SITE PLAN APPROVAL, HAVE A TON OF CONDITIONS, AND THEN WE HAVE TO BACKTRACK TO FIND WHAT WAS IN THE TOWN BOARD CONDITIONS GOING FORWARD. AND FOR PREVIOUS ONES, JUST ATTACHING THAT SAME RESOLUTION JUST SO IT'S ALL IN ONE PIECE. NUMBER THREE, THE FINAL LANDSCAPING PLAN WILL BE APPROVED BY MY DEPARTMENT. THAT'S ALREADY IN PROGRESS. ANY PROPOSED LIGHTING SHALL BE SHIELDED IN THE DARK SKY, COMPLIANT, AS SHOWN ON THE PHOTOMETRIC PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED. THE APPLICANT SHALL CONSTRUCT A SIDEWALK ALONG BIG TREE ROAD THAT CONNECTS TO THE EXISTING SIDEWALK ALONG SOUTHWESTERN, AS DENOTED ON THE SITE PLAN. 1020 926 DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THE LANGUAGE OF THAT CONDITION FOR THE SIDEWALK? NUMBER SIX SO THIS IS A CONDITION WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE LAST MEETING. THE APPLICANT SHALL MEET WITH THE TOWN OF HAMBURG TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD TO DEVELOP A PLAN FOR TRAFFIC MITIGATION MEASURES FOR SPECIAL EVENTS PRIOR TO THE OPENING OF THE TRAVELER CENTER. AND THIS RELATES TO THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT NOT JUST BILLS GAMES, BUT THE HIGHMARK STADIUM IS PLANNED TO HAVE WAY MORE EVENTS THAN JUST BILLS GAMES. THERE ARE A LOT OF RESIDENTS DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING WHO HIGHLIGHTED A CONCERN ABOUT WHEN BIG TREE IS CLOSED FOR CERTAIN EVENTS, HOW PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET IN AND OUT, AND THIS BOARD SUGGESTED THAT THE APPLICANT MAY REACH OUT TO TRAFFIC SAFETY TO DEVELOP A SPECIAL PLAN FOR THOSE SPECIAL EVENTS. I ADDED THAT AS A CONDITION FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES. IF YOU WANTED TO KEEP IT OR AMEND IT FOR FOR CONSIDERATION, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO KEEP IT, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT HOW ALL OF THE PARTIES THAT ARE RELATED TO TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT KIND OF WORK. LIKE WHAT ROLE DOES THE SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD PLAY WITH RESPECT TO HOW TRAFFIC MITIGATION PLAN GETS EXECUTED WITH THE OTHER PARTIES, INCLUDING LIKE SHERIFF, POLICE, FIRE, THAT SORT OF THING FROM FROM MY EXPERIENCE IN THE TOWN, UNLESS OTHERWISE ASKED SPECIFICALLY BY ME FROM THIS BOARD, THE TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD USUALLY DOES THE COORDINATION WITH THE STATE AGENCIES LIKE DOT AND THEN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, SO ON AND SO FORTH, LIKE MATT FROM TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD, USUALLY IS THE ONE WHO SUBMITS RESOLUTIONS TO THE TOWN TO LOOK AT TRAFFIC LIGHTS, EXISTING PROBLEMS ON STATE HIGHWAYS. SO IT'S REALLY HIS BOARD THAT REALLY, EVEN THOUGH THEY REALLY MAINLY DO RECOMMENDATIONS FOR TOWN ROADS, THEY'RE USUALLY THE AGENCY THAT DOES COORDINATION WITH THE STATE OR COUNTY RELATED TO THEIR ROADS FOR THINGS. SO THEY DO HAVE DIRECT COORDINATION, EVEN THOUGH THERE IS AN ADVISORY BOARD, CORRECT, WITH THOSE DIFFERENT AGENCIES. CORRECT. AND THEY ACT ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN AS THE ADVISORY BOARD. OKAY. THEY HISTORICALLY DO COMMUNICATE QUITE WELL WITH THOSE AGENCIES. OKAY. NUMBER SEVEN, SHOULD IT BE DETERMINED DURING ENGINEERING REVIEW THAT EITHER OF THE PROPOSED DRIVEWAYS IS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN DATED 1029 WILL NOT BE PERMITTED BY THE D-O-T, AND THE APPLICANT CHOOSES TO CONTINUE [00:50:03] TO PURSUE THE PROJECT. THE APPLICANT SHALL HAVE TO RETURN TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL OF AN ALTERNATIVE SITE PLAN. SO THAT JUST COVERS. I KNOW THE APPLICANT HAS MENTIONED. IF THEY DON'T GET IT THAT THEY WON'T. YOU KNOW THE PROJECT ISN'T FEASIBLE, BUT IN CASE THEY DO THINK IT'S FEASIBLE, THEY'LL HAVE TO COME BACK TO THIS BOARD FOR AMENDED SITE PLAN APPROVAL. OKAY. AND THEN I PUT OTHERS FOR IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT I DIDN'T COVER FROM PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS OR ANYTHING BY ANYTHING SOMEBODY CAN THINK OF RIGHT NOW. SNOW, SNOW. SNOW PLAN. DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA HOW YOU WANT THAT WORDED? THE APPLICANT SHALL. THE SITE PLAN SHALL BE UPDATED TO SHOW THE DESIGNATED SNOW STORAGE AREA TO REFLECT THE SNOW. THE SNOW REMOVAL PLAN. HOW'S THAT? WELL, DO WE WANT A SEPARATE PLAN OR ARE WE ADDING IT TO THE SITE PLAN? IT WAS JUST A KEYNOTE TO THE SITE PLAN. WE'RE GONNA. THE SITE PLAN SHALL BE REFLECTED ON THE SITE PLAN. OKAY. THAT'S FINE. THE KEYNOTE, KEYNOTE OR SITE PLAN. NOTE SITE PLAN. THAT'S A TECHNICALITY. YEAH, I MEAN, YEAH, THE SNOW PLAN OR SNOW I WAS DOING IN THERE, RIGHT. INCLUDE A NOTE INDICATING THE LOCATION FOR A SNOW MANAGEMENT PLAN. AND THEN ARE WE HAVING ANYTHING THAT TIES TO YOUR LIKE ENGINEERING APPROVAL? RIGHT? BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SEEING THE PLAN THAT'S GOING TO BE UPDATED AS PART OF THE SITE SITE PLAN APPROVAL REVIEW BY TOWN ENGINEER. OKAY. REVIEWED BY TOWN ENGINEER. SO THE SITE PLAN SHALL BE UPDATED TO INCLUDE A NOTE INDICATING LOCATION FOR A SNOW STORAGE PLAN TO BE REVIEWED BY THE TOWN ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. IS SNOW STORAGE PLANNER AREA. YEAH, IT'S ACTUALLY IT'S AN AREA AREA. BUT DO YOU WANT IT TO SAY. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR CONNOR? THE CURB CUT THAT'S PLANNED ON SOUTHWESTERN BOULEVARD. HOW CLOSE IS THAT TO THE TRAFFIC LIGHT THAT'S LOCATED IN THAT PROXIMITY? WE HAD THAT LABELED ON THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS GIVEN TWO WEEKS AGO. OH, RIGHT. ABOUT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I'M NOT 100% SURE, BUT IT SHOULD BE LABELED ON THAT SITE PLAN. IT'S ALSO LABELED RIGHT. I MEAN, IF IT'S IN REAL CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE TRAFFIC LIGHT. NO, NO, NO, IT'S FAR AWAY AS IT CAN BE. ALL RIGHT. WELL, BECAUSE TRAFFIC ON A BILLS DAY IS NOTORIOUS ON THAT ROAD. RIGHT. AND SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE THAT I'M ONE OF THE TRAVELERS. OKAY. ARE WE GOOD JOSH? AND I DON'T KNOW IF ATTORNEY GOGAN WANTS TO WEIGH IN ON THIS. IS IT IMPORTANT FOR US TO READ THIS ENTIRE THING, OR CAN WE MAKE REFERENCE TO SOMEBODY MAKING A MOTION AND REFERENCE THIS TWO PAGES? OKAY. INSTEAD OF READING THIS WORD FOR WORD, ARE WE OKAY WITH THAT? YEAH, BECAUSE THE THE WHOLE RESOLUTION WILL BE IN THE MINUTES. I SEND THEM TO BRIDGET, AND SHE PUTS THE WHOLE RESOLUTION RIGHT IN THE MINUTES. OKAY. YEAH. SO YEAH, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU, BUT JOSH. JOSH HEARD WHAT I SAID. THE TOWN BOARD DOES IT THAT WAY ALL THE TIME. THAT'S COMPLETELY FINE AS LONG AS IT'S PART OF THE RECORD. OKAY, SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT CAN BE SUMMARIZED AND BE PUT IN THE MINUTES. AND THAT WAS ATTORNEY GOGAN. OKAY, SO I HAVE NO OBJECTION. OKAY. THE CONDITIONS ARE I'M WELL DOCUMENTED. OKAY. SO WHO'S BETTER UP? WHO WANTS TO MAKE THIS? SO ARE YOU JUST GONNA DO LIKE SOMEBODY MAKES A MOTION APPROVE SEEKER, NOT EVEN READ IT AND THEN VOTE? AND THEN SAME THING. SPECIAL USE PERMIT AS LISTED VOTE SITE PLAN AS LISTED. VOTE. OKAY. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. YES. OKAY. SO WHO WANTS TO DO THE FIRST ONE? IT'S YOUR TURN. DON'T EVERYBODY JUMP AT AT ONCE. I MAKE A MOTION TO REMEMBER SHIMURA. REMEMBER SHIMURA BRIA DEVELOPMENT, LLC, SMALL SCALE TRAVELER CENTER, INTERSECTION OF SOUTHWESTERN BOULEVARD AND BIG TREE ROAD. SBL NUMBER ONE SIX, 0.18-1-9.1. SEEKER SITE SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND SITE PLAN APPROVAL RESOLUTION. SEEKER. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SEEKER RESOLUTION. AS NOTED IN THE RESOLUTION PRESENTED AT THE NOVEMBER 4TH BOARD MEETING. IS THERE A SECOND MEMBER, RYAN, SECONDS IT. SO THERE'S BEEN A A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE SEEKER. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NONE. OPPOSED. WHO WANTS TO DO SPECIAL USE PERMIT. I'LL JUST KEEP GOING. REMEMBER MEMBER SHIMURA, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT AS PER THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS PRESENTED AT THE NOVEMBER 4TH, 2026 BOARD [00:55:03] MEETING. PLANNING BOARD MEETING. PLANNING BOARD MEETING. IT'S BEEN MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND MEMBER? STEWART? SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? I. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SITE PLAN, APPROVAL SITE PLAN APPROVAL RESOLUTION PER THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS PRESENTED AND ALSO AMENDED DURING THE NOVEMBER 4TH, 2026 PLANNING BOARD MEETING, IT'S BEEN MOVED BY MEMBER SHIMURA. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED. AND SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? I ALL HAVE PASSED. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. GOOD LUCK. OKAY. OUR FOURTH [4. Hilbert College – Requesting Amended Site Plan Approval for a new athletic field to be located at 5200 South Park Avenue] CASE THIS EVENING IS HILBERT COLLEGE IS REQUESTING AN AMENDED SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR AN ATHLETIC FIELD LOCATED AT 5200 SOUTH PARK AVENUE. I'VE. I'VE STATED THIS BEFORE. I'M A GRADUATE OF HILBERT. I'VE SERVED ON THE ADVISORY BOARD. I HAVE NO CONFLICT OF INTEREST WHATSOEVER. AND DOING THIS, PRESIDED OVER THE FIRST CASE BACK IN 24. AND SO I WILL BE PRESIDING OVER THIS AS WELL. BOARD MEMBERS, IF YOU LOOKED IN YOUR PACKET, YOU CAN COME ON UP. BOARD MEMBERS. IF YOU LOOKED IN YOUR PACKET, YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN THAT THERE WERE MINUTES FROM THE PREVIOUS APPEARANCE THAT HILBERT COLLEGE CAME TO US. AND TONIGHT THEY ARE DOING A REDUCTION OF WHAT THEY PREVIOUSLY REQUESTED BACK IN 2024. CORRECT? AND WITH THAT, I WILL LET THE APPLICANT INTRODUCE HIMSELF AND PROCEED WITH WHAT THEY'RE DOING. OKAY. CAN YOU HEAR ME? IF I GET CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE MIC, I'M A QUIET TALKER, SO PLEASE FORGIVE ME. I GOTTA GET OUT AND TALK INTO IT. LET ME DO THAT THOUGH, BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE WON'T BE ABLE TO HEAR YOU. I WILL TRY THAT. SO MY NAME IS ERIC. I'M FROM CPL ARCHITECTS. SPELL YOUR LAST NAME FOR US? YES, GOTTORFF. OKAY. FROM CPL HERE REPRESENTING HILBERT COLLEGE, AND WE ARE REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT TO THE SITE PLAN. WE'RE REDUCING THE SITE IMPACT FROM WHAT WAS ONCE A TRACK AND FIELD JUST TO A FIELD IMPACT. SO JUST A TURF FIELD AND NO TRACK ANYMORE. THERE IS GOING TO BE A POTENTIAL FOR SEATING AND ALSO PRESSBOX. BUT THAT'S, THAT'S ABOUT IT. IT'S A SLIGHTLY REDUCED IMPACT TO THE SITE. SO THE ONLY THING THAT YOU'RE TAKING AWAY THE TRACK IS THE TRACK. YES. THE SCOREBOARD, THE THE SEATING, ALTHOUGH WE DON'T HAVE SEATING RIGHT NOW, BUT THE SCOREBOARD IS STAYING IN THE FIELD IS STAYING. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS ALL CORRECT. OKAY. AND THE MINUTES WERE PROVIDED FOR US FOR FEBRUARY 7TH AND FOR FEBRUARY 24TH. THERE WERE LENGTHY, HEALTHY DISCUSSIONS THAT MR. GOTT OR MYSELF MEMBER CLARK, WHO WERE STILL WHO WAS PART OF THE BOARD AT THAT TIME. WE HAD. WE ALSO. I WILL LET. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO OFFER AT THIS POINT, MR. GODDARD? YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING? YEAH. I'M ALL. I'M ALL SET. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO JOSH. YOU CAN BRING EVERYBODY ELSE UP TO DATE. SURE. SO THIS HAPPENS A LOT WHERE WE'RE DOING AMENDED SITE PLAN APPROVAL. THE PROJECT RECEIVED FULL SITE PLAN APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING BOARD BACK IN 2024. THIS BOARD DID GIVE IT A NEGATIVE DECLARATION. WHAT YOU SAW IN THE MEMO AND WHAT TO DISCUSS TONIGHT IS THAT THIS IS A REDUCTION OF THE PLAN THAT INCLUDED MORE DURING THAT APPROVAL BACK IN 2024. IT IS MY OPINION AS THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, THAT THE DECK STILL HOLDS TRUE AND THAT BECAUSE OF THE REDUCED IMPACTS, THAT I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO BE REOPENED. BUT THAT'S JUST A RECOMMENDATION THAT'S FOR THIS BOARD TO DECIDE. AND THEN TYPICALLY WITH AMENDED SITE PLAN APPROVAL, IT'LL STILL BE SUBJECT TO A PUBLIC HEARING. WE'LL NOTICE PEOPLE NEAR THE AREA. AND THEN WE WILL DO IF THIS BOARD APPROVES OF IT. ANOTHER CONDITIONAL SITE PLAN APPROVAL RESOLUTION THAT WILL THEN MARK THIS VERSION OF THE OF THE SITE PLAN. OKAY. BOARD MEMBERS, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NOPE. MEMBERS. I'M I JUST HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE THE PRESS BOX. WAS THAT ORIGINALLY APPROVED? OKAY. THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION. YEAH. THE ONLY CHANGE TONIGHT IS JUST THE TRACK. THE TRACK THAT AND I DIDN'T MAKE THE CHEERLEADING SQUAD THIS YEAR. SO JUST SO YOU KNOW. BUT I KNOW, DARN IT. GO HAWKS. AT ANY RATE, ONLY THE TRACK WAS REMOVED. WE DISCUSSED THE LIGHTING IN THE PREVIOUS. WE DISCUSSED THE SOUND. WE DISCUSSED SEEKER. WE DISCUSSED THE WETLANDS AND. AGAIN, I WILL REFER THE BOARD. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I HAVE COPIES OF THOSE MINUTES RIGHT HERE. IF YOU COULDN'T FIND THEM, BUT THEY ARE IN THE SHAREPOINT AND COPY AS WELL. AND YOU GAVE COPIES, OKAY. AND WE COVERED [01:00:02] THAT SEEKER WOULD BE CARRIED OVER FOR BOTH PROJECTS. OKAY. SO IF THERE'S NOTHING FURTHER, JOSH, WHERE DO WE GO FROM? YOU WOULD JUST HAVE TO SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PROJECT. AND YOU CAN POTENTIALLY, YOU CAN POTENTIALLY AUTHORIZE AMENDED SITE PLAN APPROVAL RESOLUTIONS IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE. SO GO AHEAD AND SCHEDULE IT FOR THE 18TH. OKAY. AND YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND DO THE RESOLUTION, PRELIMINARY RESOLUTION. OKAY. FOR THE 18TH. YEP. AND. WE'LL SEE YOU BACK HERE ON THE 18TH. OKAY? OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. GO, HAWKS. HEY, LOOK. WHAT? LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO ME. I GOT TO GO TO HILBERT AND HERE I AM. JUST HAS ONE CLARIFYING QUESTION. SURE. SO ON THE SITE, ON THIS AMENDED SITE PLAN, EVERYTHING EXCEPT EVERYTHING IS TO BE BUILT PER THE SITE PLAN. EXCEPT FOR THIS ONE NOTE THAT SAYS FUTURE 500 SEAT BLEACHER SYSTEM WITH EIGHT BY 24 PRESS BOX. CORRECT. OKAY. OKAY, SO [5. Chuck Kluckhohn – Requesting Preliminary Plat Approval for a 2-lot subdivision to be located at 6670 Taylor Road] OUR NEXT CASE IS CHUCK KLUCKHOHN REQUESTING PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL ON A TWO LOT SUBDIVISION TO BE TO BE LOCATED AT 6670 TAYLOR ROAD BOARD MEMBERS, YOU WILL RECALL THAT AT OUR LAST MEETING, WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION. ATTORNEY GOERGEN HAD QUESTIONED ABOUT THE SPLIT LOT. YOU SAW THAT, AND I SAID THAT WE'RE GOING TO REFER TO THE HAMBURG FIRE DEPARTMENT, TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WHICH WE DID, AND WE HEARD FROM THEM. THEY SAID THERE WAS NO NEGATIVE IMPACT WITH THE SIZE OF THE DRIVEWAY THE WAY IT IS. AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE TONIGHT. GOOD EVENING. SORRY, I'M DOING ALL THE TALKING, I APOLOGIZE. OKAY. ED MURPHY ON BEHALF OF CHUCK. CHUCK WAS OUT OF IS OUT OF TOWN TODAY. BUT HE WANTED TO KEEP THIS ON TRACK TO TRY TO GET A PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED. SO I'M HERE. OKAY. WELL, WELCOME BOARD MEMBERS. DO YOU HAVE ANY. I'M SORRY, I'M GOING OUT OF TRACK HERE. JOSH, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO OFFER? I'LL JUST FOLLOW UP ON. AS YOU MENTIONED, ATTORNEY GOGGIN SHARED HIS CONCERNS. I DID WITH THE BOARD, ASKED AND SHARED IT NOT ONLY WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT, JUST FOR THEM TO REVIEW THEIR DETERMINATION, BUT ALSO SHARED IT WITH HAMBURG FIRE. HAMBURG FIRE CHIEF DID SEND THE EMAIL THAT'S ON THE SCREEN. THEY LOOKED AT IT FROM A FIRE ACCESS AND EMERGENCY ACCESS STANDPOINT AND THEN THEIR COMMENTS. THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DIDN'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THE PROPOSED PLAN. WHEN I CHECKED IN WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT, THEY STILL REITERATED THAT THEY MADE THEIR DETERMINATION NOT ONLY BASED OFF OF THEM READING THE CODE, BUT THEN BASED OFF OF PRIOR PRECEDENT OF ANOTHER SUBDIVISION THAT WAS ON MONCTON YEARS BEFORE THERE WAS ANOTHER SUBDIVISION, I BELIEVE, OVER ON PLEASANT THAT WHEN IT HAD THE SPLIT ZONING, THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CODE FROM THEIR INTERPRETATION THAT SAYS THAT FROM A ROAD FRONTAGE STANDPOINT, THAT WHATEVER THE ZONING IS OF THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION, AT THAT ROAD FRONTAGE STANDPOINT, THAT THEY CAN'T GO WITH THAT ACCORDING TO THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS. AND THAT WAS THEIR DETERMINATION THAT THEY STILL STOOD ON. SO THAT WAS CODE ENFORCEMENT. WE GOT HAMBURG FIRE. IF THE BOARD FEELS COMFORTABLE OR WANTS TO, YOU KNOW, ASK FOR ANY OTHER OPINIONS, WE CERTAINLY CAN. OR IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE, I BELIEVE WITH THE APPLICANT IS LOOKING FOR IS FOR A PUBLIC HEARING TO BE SCHEDULED AND POTENTIALLY AN APPROVAL DECISION TO BE MADE. OKAY, CAMI, I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING BOARD MEMBERS. NO, NO. CHAIR, I THE ONLY THING I'M GOING TO ADD TO THIS IS THAT I DID SIT IN ON THE CONVERSATION THAT JOSH HAD WITH CODE REVIEW AND THEIR EXPLANATION WAS, CAN I, I CAN SHARE THAT THE FACT THAT THEY HAD MADE THIS DECISION BASED ON PRECEDENT AND THAT THE CODE WASN'T CLEAR ENOUGH TO SUBSTANTIATE, AND THAT'S WHY THEY FELT WHAT THEY DID, AND THAT'S WHY THEY WERE GOING WITH THEIR STANCE. SO, AND BASED ON THE FACT THAT THE HAMBURG FIRE DISTRICT IS IN SAYING THAT IT'S NOT A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE PROPERTY, BECAUSE THAT WAS MY CONCERN, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. I FEEL IF THE BOARD MEMBERS, IF THE BOARD DOES NOT OBJECT, THAT WE COULD MOVE AHEAD WITH THE PLANNING BOARD SCHEDULING THE PUBLIC HEARING MEMBERS. I DON'T OBJECT TO THAT. I JUST HAD ONE QUICK QUESTION. WE HAD DISCUSSED A ABOUT DOING SOME RESEARCH ON DRIVEWAY DIMENSIONS. AND SO RIGHT. TO KIND OF ADDRESS THE CONCERN ABOUT ACCESS, I KNOW THAT FIRE DEPARTMENT DOESN'T HAVE ANY CONCERN ABOUT A 30 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY IN ORDER TO GET BACK THERE. BUT I'M ALSO LOOKING TO SEE THAT THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY [01:05:03] IS NOW STRADDLING WHAT'S GOING TO BE LIKE A NEW. A NEW LOT LINE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ANY. I CHECKED INTO OUR SUBDIVISION OF LAND CODE, WHICH WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, CHAPTER 230. AND THERE ARE NO, THERE'S NO SUBSECTION OR ANY DRIVEWAY REQUIREMENTS IN OUR SUBDIVISION OF LAND CODE. I DIDN'T EVEN REALLY SEE MANY DRIVEWAY REQUIREMENTS OTHER THAN IN SITE PLAN, BUT IT'S MORE SO RELATED TO LIKE CAMMIE'S REVIEW FOR ENGINEERING OF LIKE TOWN ROAD STANDARDS AND OTHER DRIVEWAYS WITHIN LIKE WE HAVE MULTIFAMILY APARTMENTS AND THE DRIVEWAY REQUIREMENTS OF THAT SORT. THERE ALSO WERE REQUIREMENTS IN MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS, ONCE AGAIN, LIKE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT IN TERMS OF A TWO LOT SUBDIVISION ANYWHERE IN THE SUBDIVISION OF LAND CODE AND MY RESEARCH, I DIDN'T FIND ANY MINIMUM MAXIMUM DRIVER REQUIREMENTS WHATSOEVER. THANK YOU FOR THAT DUE DILIGENCE. THIS IS A SILLY QUESTION, BUT HOW HOW ARE THEY END UP ADDRESSING THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY THAT IS NOW STRADDLING A NEW LOT LINE? THIS IS MORE A CURIOUS QUESTION. NOT THAT I WANT TO MAKE ANY CHANGES. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION. THIS DRIVEWAY IS NOW GOING TO STRADDLE THE NEW LOT LINE. WELL, THERE ONCE ONCE IT'S ONCE IT'S SUBDIVIDED, THERE WILL BE A SHARED DRIVEWAY AGREEMENT, OF COURSE. OKAY. SO THAT'LL THAT'S WHAT I. ATTORNEY JOSEPH GOERGEN AND THAT'S WHAT I EXPECTED. WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO GET US A DRAFT OF THAT EASEMENT AGREEMENT AHEAD OF TIME SO THE BOARD COULD SEE WHAT THAT SHARED DRIVEWAY EASEMENT AGREEMENT IS? SURE I CAN WE CAN PROVIDE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHO THE PURCHASERS WILL BE, BUT I CAN SAY AS LONG AS IT'S OKAY AS A AS A DRAFT SAYING BUYER, RIGHT. THAT'S SURE. AND THAT MAKE IT PART OF THE RESOLUTION THAT THAT'S INCORPORATED INTO THE INTO THE DEED. I WOULD I'D APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE I'M, I'M STILL NOT CONVINCED ON THE, ON THE SPLIT LOT. SO I'M JUST PROTECTING THE, THE TOWN WITH THE PRECEDENT. IF YOU SEE WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT. OKAY. OKAY. SO, JOSH, HOW MANY CASES DO WE HAVE ON THE 18TH WAS LAUGHING. IS IT 22 YET? THIS ONE I EARMARKED. OKAY. BUT WHEN WE ADDED HILBERT. EIGHT OKAY, SO BUT THEY WERE EARMARKED AS. EIGHT. OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO CAP IT NOW. OKAY. OKAY. YEP. THANK YOU. AND THIS IS FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. AND ALSO JUST TO MAKE THE BOARD AWARE, AS THE BOARD COMFORTABLE WITH ATTORNEY GOERGEN SUGGESTED THAT THERE BE A CONDITION THAT THE APPLICANT SUBMIT, EVEN IF IT'S IN DRAFT FORM, JUST AN EASEMENT FOR. DO YOU WANT US TO SAY LIKE LEGAL DEPARTMENT REVIEW PLANNING BOARD REVIEW LEGAL. OKAY IS THE BOARD COINCIDES WITH IT. IT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT MR. MURROW WAS ASKING ABOUT TO SEE IT, YOU KNOW, HOW IS THE DRIVEWAY GOING TO BE HANDLED. WE'LL SUBMIT THAT TO JOSH, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THE HEARING. OKAY? OKAY. OKAY. DO YOU WANT TO DO A DRAFT APPROVAL AT THAT POINT? YEAH, I CAN ADD A CONDITION IF WE CAN. EVERYTHING WE CAN DO IT FOR THAT. YEP. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THEN WE'LL SEE YOU BACK HERE ON THE 18TH. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. DON'T FORGET THE PUMPKIN PIE. WELL, IT'S THANKSGIVING. WHAT CAN I SAY? YOU KNOW? OKAY. HAVE TO HAVE A LITTLE LEVITY. SIX TH. [6. Parker Road Developers, LLC – Requesting Preliminary Plat Approval for a 59-lot cluster subdivision to be located on the west side of Parker Road, south of Big Tree Road] OUR SIXTH CASE IS PARKER ROAD DEVELOPERS REQUESTING PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL FOR THE 59 LOT CLUSTER SUBDIVISION TO BE LOCATED AT WEST SIDE OF PARK ROAD, PARKER ROAD AND SOUTH OF BIG TREE. AND THIS IS OUR LAST CASE. AND YOU I MEAN, WE'RE WE'RE PRETTY MUCH ALL SET, AREN'T WE? YEAH. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT SHAWN TO SPEAK TO IT OR IF YOU WANT ME TO SPEAK TO IT, BUT ALL I WAS GOING TO ADD, I DON'T, SHAWN, IF YOU WANT TO GO FIRST, BUT I WAS GOING TO ADD IS. SO WE OBVIOUSLY THE PLANNING BOARD OBVIOUSLY APPROVED FINDINGS FOR A CLUSTER SUBDIVISION HERE AT PARKER ROAD. THE APPLICANT HAS NOW SUBMITTED A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR THAT 59 LOT SUBDIVISION. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HOPEFULLY THE BOARD TAKES INTO ACCOUNT DURING DISCUSSION AND DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING IS ANY CONDITIONS THAT YOU WANT ON THE APPROVAL OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAT. I KNOW ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT'S NOT ONLY JUST A PLANNING BOARD STANDPOINT, BUT I KNOW THE TOWN IS INTERESTED IN IS PARKER ROAD IS IN THE TOWN'S PLANS OF BECOMING A MORE WALKABLE, CONNECTED ROAD. OBVIOUSLY, PARK ROAD IS A TOWN ROAD THAT CONNECTS TO 28TH. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE TOWN HAS MENTIONED IS WANTING TO HAVE MORE SIDEWALKS IN THE PARK ROAD. THIS PROJECT OBVIOUSLY WILL HAVE FRONTAGE ONTO PARKER, SO JUST KEEPING THAT IN MIND AND THEN ANY OF THE CONDITIONS THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, WHETHER IT WAS THROUGH THAT FINDING STATEMENT OR THROUGH THE ENTIRE SECRET PROCESS TO KEEP THOSE IN MIND AS WELL. SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT. SO AT THIS POINT, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES, WE CAN ASK TO HAVE THE SIDEWALKS ADDED BY THE APPLICANT CORRECT IN FRONT OF THEIR PROPERTY. WE CAN'T ASK THEM TO DO SIDEWALKS ALL UP AND [01:10:05] DOWN. YOU CAN ASK THEM TO HAVE SIDEWALKS ON THEIR EXTENT OF THEIR PROPERTY THAT HAS FRONTAGE ON THE PARKER. YES. OKAY. I WAS GOING TO ASK HIM FOR THE WHOLE PARKER ROAD JUST OR PUT A CONDITION THAT IF AND WHEN SIDEWALKS GOING IN THAT VICINITY, WE'D BE REQUIRED TO INSTALL THEM. JUST I ALWAYS HAVE CONCERNS FROM A LIABILITY PERSPECTIVE OF SIDEWALKS TO NOWHERE THAT JUST END. WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT FURTHER. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD OTHER THAN JUST AS JOSH INDICATED, ULTIMATELY THE FINDING STATEMENT WAS ISSUED. AND I ENVISION ONCE YOU GET TO THE STAGE OF ISSUING A DECISION ON PRELIMINARY PLAT, THERE ARE SEVERAL CONDITIONS THAT WILL NEED TO BE INCLUDED, INCLUDING THE PERMANENT OPEN SPACE, THE STREAM CORRIDOR EASEMENT, GATED EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY ON THE ONE DRIVEWAY. ALL OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THIS BOARD AND THE RESIDENTS OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS. OKAY, ENGINEERING JUST FROM THE ENGINEERING SIDE, AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS, I AM ASSUMING THAT THIS WILL BE CONSTRUCTED IN PHASES SHOULD IT MOVE FORWARD. IT IS FAIRLY LARGE. OR IF YOU COULD FIND OUT FROM THEM A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THAT PLAN IS, JUST SO THAT FROM THE PLANNING BOARD STANDPOINT, WE ENSURE CONDITIONS ON THE AMENITIES AND WALKING TRAIL AND SO ON. THE ENTIRE PROJECT ASSOCIATED WITH EACH PHASE. SO THAT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO US IN ENGINEERING. WHEN WE REVIEW THOSE PLANS AND WE GET INTO EACH PHASE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ITEMS ARE ADDRESSED WHEN THEY NEED TO BE AND NOT SAVED FOR THE END OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WELL, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THIS WAS DIFFERENT PHASES. SO THAT IS A GOOD POINT TO CONFIRM THAT. BUT MY BELIEF IS, AND IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN IN TERMS OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE ITSELF, SINGLE PHASE. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. THAT'S THE WAY IT'S A GOOD SIZE. THAT'S WHY I BRING IT UP. SHE RAISES A GOOD POINT THAT IF IT'S NOT, IT CHANGES SOME THINGS. SO I WILL CONFIRM THAT USUALLY IN MORE OF A 20 LOT RANGE, SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE WE SEE SINGLE PHASE. WHEN YOU GET INTO THE 50 MARK, OFTEN THEY NEED TO START SELLING LOTS AND BUILDING HOMES. SO SOMETIMES PUTTING ALL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN AT ONCE IS, IS COST IS A COSTLY UNDERTAKING. SO I JUST WANT THAT CLARIFIED SO THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, TIME THAT OUT IF NEED BE. OKAY? SO WE NEED TO KNOW THAT BEFORE WE CAN MOVE. IF THERE'S GOING TO BE PHASES, RIGHT. JOSH. I MEAN, THE, AT LEAST FOR, FOR THIS PROJECT, THE, THE PHASES IS REALLY MORE OF FOR LIKE ENGINEERING. I MEAN, THAT'S MORE OF LIKE A CONSTRUCTION, HOW THEY'RE GOING TO PHASE IT. I MEAN, THE PROJECT IS THE PROJECT IS THE PROJECT. SO HOW THEY PHASE IT REALLY ISN'T SOMETHING THAT WE CONSIDER PER SE, LIKE IN THE. I MEAN, YOU CAN HAVE CONDITIONS IF YOU WANT, BUT IN TERMS OF WHAT THE PLANNING BOARDS REVIEW IS, THE PHASES IS MORE OF AN ENGINEERING. SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS. AND I'M NOT GOING TO NAME NAMES OF PREVIOUS CASES, HOWEVER. BUT. SO WHEN A PROJECT GOES IN AND THEY HAVE GREEN SPACES, DO. THOSE CAN'T GO IN FIRST, CAN WE? CAN WE RECOMMEND THAT THOSE GO IN FIRST BEFORE THE BUILDING OF THE HOME? I MEAN, IN THIS CASE IT IS POSSIBLE THE WAY THEY HAVE IT LAID OUT, NOT THE TRAIL SO MUCH, BUT. SO WHEN DOES THE JUST LET ME TALK THIS THROUGH. SO LIKE, IF YOU'RE ONLY DOING 20 HOUSES, I'M GOING TO PICK 20 HOUSES. WHEN DOES THE TRAIL GO IN? AND IS THAT UP TO THE PLANNING BOARD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PUT THAT AS A CONDITION INTO OUR INTO OUR RESOLUTION, THAT IT GOES IN AFTER 20 HOUSES, AFTER 40? HOW DO YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? OTHERWISE, WE'RE GOING TO END UP WHERE WE ENDED UP ON OTHER PROJECTS. AND 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, IF THIS TAKES TEN YEARS, THEN I'M JUST I'M BEING REALISTIC BECAUSE NOT EVERYTHING BUILDS THAT QUICK. BUT LET'S JUST SAY IT TAKES FIVE YEARS AND THIS WHOLE BOARD CHANGES THEN AND THEN THAT TRAIL GETS LOST OR THE GREEN SPACE GETS MUDDLED. SO AT WHAT POINT CAN THE IS CAN LET ME NOT SAY, AT WHAT POINT CAN THE PLANNING BOARD SAY, IF THIS APPLICANT BUILDS 20 HOUSES AND AFTER 20 HOUSES, THE TRAIL HAS TO BE PUT IN AND THE GREEN SPACE. WHAT I'M USING THAT AS AS AN EXAMPLE TO EXPLAIN MYSELF. YEAH. WHAT I WOULD SAY TO THAT IS BASED OFF OF PRIOR PRECEDENT, WE'VE HAD OTHER WE'VE HAD PUDS, WE'VE HAD OTHER LARGE SITE PLAN APPROVALS. AND IF YOU GUYS RECALL, AND SOME OF THE CONDITIONS WE'VE ASKED FOR INFRASTRUCTURE OR TRAILS TO BE PUT IN FOR THE FIRST PHASE. SOMETIMES WE SAID FIRST PHASE, SOMETIMES WE'VE USED MONTHS. I WOULD SAY THAT, YES, YOU CAN HAVE A CONDITION. I WOULD HOPE THAT THAT CONDITION IS ENFORCEABLE. SO YOU HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND WHAT INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS OR NEEDS YOU'RE LOOKING TO HAVE INSTALLED FIRST. BUT WE HAVE DONE FOR OTHER LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENTS. WE HAVE HAD CONDITIONS SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, TRAILS WILL BE INSTALLED AND PHASE ONE. AND THEN THAT'S ALSO UP TO ENGINEERING ON WHAT DOES PHASE ONE LOOK LIKE? BECAUSE PHASE ONE, FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE CAN LOOK COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN ENGINEERING. SO I GUESS THAT'S [01:15:03] THE OTHER PART OF MY QUESTION. DO WE DETERMINE WHAT OUR PHASE ONE IS WHEN WE WANT THAT IN LIKE MY EXAMPLE OF 20 HOMES, OR DO WE LEAVE IT UP TO ENGINEERING? TYPICALLY, WE'VE LEFT IT UP TO ENGINEERING. WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO WHAT PHASE FROM PLANNING. OKAY. YEAH, OKAY. BUT IN ENGINEERING, THAT'S A GOOD ONE BECAUSE HISTORICALLY THERE HAVE BEEN PROJECTS NOT UNIQUE TO HAMBURG, WHERE IF IT'S LEFT TILL THE VERY END, RIGHT, IT'S TENDS TO GET FORGOTTEN. AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEND NO HOURS GOING THROUGH 40 YEARS OF MINUTES AGAIN, THAT'S MY POINT THAT SAY THEY'RE GOING TO DO TWO PHASES, AND THEN THEY COME TO US WITH LIKE A PHASE TWO, A AND THEN B, AND THEN C, AND WE END UP, YOU KNOW, THE MARKET WILL DICTATE A LITTLE BIT OF HOW THIS GOES IN. SO I JUST WANT MY REQUEST WOULD BE IF THE PLANNING BOARD WOULD CONSIDER EVEN SOME GENERAL LANGUAGE STATING SOME REQUIREMENTS. I CAN WORK WITH THAT AND HAVE IT AS A CONDITION TO HOLD THEM TO, SO THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH A REASONABLE PLAN BASED ON THEIR PHASING. SO CAN IT BE SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF IN THE EVENT THAT THIS PROJECT IS PHASED, ALL TRAIL SYSTEMS SHALL BE INSTALLED PRIOR TO THE COMPLETION OF PHASE ONE? NO, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT UP TO US. HE JUST SAID IT'S NOT UP TO US TO TO TO DEFINE IT. THEN WE HAVE TO DEFINE WHAT THE PHASE IS. BUT THEY ALREADY SAID THAT THEY'RE DOING IT IN ONE PHASE. SO LET'S WRITE IN THERE FIRST. SO IF THEY IF THEY ARE SPLITTING UP THE CONSTRUCTION, THEN FOR ENGINEERING YOU WOULD THEN BE SEEING THEY'RE SPLITTING UP CONSTRUCTION, ESTABLISHING PHASES. AND SO IF WE SAY IF IT BECOMES PHASED THAT PRIOR TO THE COMPLETION OF PHASE ONE, THAT THEY WOULD BE INSTALLED. SO I THINK THE BEST WAY TO HANDLE THIS IS NUMBER ONE FOR ME TO CHECK AND SEE IF IT'S ENVISIONED THE PHASING. NUMBER TWO, IF THERE IS PHASING, SUBMIT A PROPOSED PHASING PLAN. AND THEN NUMBER THREE IS THIS ADVANCES. WE CAN TALK ABOUT CONDITIONS IN TERMS OF THE TIMING BECAUSE I DO AGREE. YEAH I THINK YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE THOSE AMENITIES WERE PART AND PARCEL OF THE APPROVAL. AND THEY NEED TO MAKE SURE WE RIGHT. AND NOW IS THE TIME TO SPELL IT OUT. YEAH WE CAN. YEAH. I THINK A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT IS I HATE TO NAME NAMES, BUT THE. OH, PLEASE. THE ERIE COUNTY FAIRGROUNDS PROJECT, IF YOU GUYS RECALL THAT HAD A PHASING PLAN IN TERMS OF THEIR CONSTRUCTION OF 27, 28, 29 AND THEY SUBMITTED A PHASING PLAN. SO SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR THIS BOARD. I THINK THAT OKAY. AND BETTER I BRING IT UP NOW THEN. NO, I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT IT UP. NO, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE YOU. THAT'S WHY YOU GET THE BIG BUCKS. SO WHERE DO WE GO? PUBLIC HEARING. PUBLIC HEARING. AND WE DO. WE HAVE HIM ON THE 18TH. I EARMARKED THIS ONE FOR 12. TWO, JUST SO THAT I CAN ALSO GO THROUGH THE FINDINGS TO MAKE SURE I'M COVERING ALL CONDITIONS SO THAT SEAN CAN, YOU KNOW, GET THE PHASING PLAN. AND THEN 122, WE CAN HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE, I CAN ALSO PUT TOGETHER A DRAFT APPROVAL RESOLUTION. YOU DON'T HAVE TO ACT ON IT THAT NIGHT, BUT AT LEAST SO THAT I CAN GET THAT DONE. IN CASE YOU DO WANT TO CONSIDER IT, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND DO THAT. AND THANK YOU FOR PUTTING IT ON 122 AND PUTTING IT ON 11, WHATEVER. OF COURSE, I DON'T WANT MEMBER CLARK TO STARE AT ME. IT'S PAST HIS BEDTIME. SO YEAH, THAT'S FINE. AND THEN THAT WILL GIVE YOU SOME TIME TO GET THE PHASING WORKED OUT. ALSO WITH YOUR CLIENT, SOME TIME TO DISCUSS THE CONDITIONS. OKAY, SO WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOOD. ANYTHING ELSE? BOARD MEMBERS? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD? SUBTRACT? NO, WE'RE THE APPLE TREES ARE GOING TO BE OR. JUST KIDDING. OKAY. OKAY, THEN WE'LL SEE YOU BACK HERE ON THE 2ND OF DECEMBER. THANK YOU. AND HAVE A GREAT EVENING. YOU TOO. THANK YOU. SEAN. OKAY, SO WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY MINUTES. ME AND BRIDGET ARE WORKING ON MINUTES FOR THE 16TH FOR YOUR APPROVAL. OKAY. AND SINCE WE'RE IN THE OTHER BUSINESS, THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I'LL ADD IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WILL BE ON THE NOVEMBER 18TH MEETING THAT I WANT TO MENTION, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO TAKE BOARD REVIEW, IS THAT WE RECEIVED A SCOPING DOCUMENT FOR THE 6433 RAILROAD AVENUE BEST PROJECT. IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME TO MENTION BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN, THAT'S STARTING ANOTHER EIS. SO WE GOT THAT. THE PLANNING BOARD OBVIOUSLY HAS 60 DAYS FROM THE RECEIPT OF THAT INITIAL SCOPE TO ISSUE A FINAL SCOPE. AND WE'RE GOING TO START THAT REVIEW OF THAT ON THE 18TH. AS I TYPICALLY DO. I WILL PROVIDE A REVIEW FOR COMPLETENESS DOCUMENT PROVIDING MY OWN THOUGHTS TO THIS BOARD. BUT I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT ONE OF THE PROJECTS EARMARKED FOR THE 18TH IS TO REVIEW THE SCOPING DOC FOR THE BEST PROJECT IN LAKEVIEW. DO YOU HAVE MORE, OR CAN I MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR THAT THIS GOT? OKAY, I'M GOING TO HIGHLY ENCOURAGE BOARD MEMBERS TO PRINT THE SEVERAL PAGES THAT JOSH SENT US. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, DO IT NOW. CALL JOSH, LEAVE HIM A MESSAGE. SEND HIM AN EMAIL IF YOU CAN'T, BECAUSE JOSH IS HERE A COUPLE OF DAYS A WEEK. AND SO WHAT I DO IS I'LL CALL HIM AND LEAVE HIM A MESSAGE AND SAY, YOU CAN CALL ME BACK AT SUCH AND SUCH A TIME ON SUCH AND SUCH A DAY. GIVE HIM A SPECIFIC AS OPPOSED TO SAYING, HEY, JOSH, CAN YOU [01:20:05] CALL ME OKAY, BECAUSE HE'S NOT HERE FIVE DAYS A WEEK. IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR QUESTIONS ARE, THEN EMAIL HIM, OKAY, AND HE WILL GET BACK WITH YOU UNLESS YOU WANT TO TALK TO HIM. SO THAT WOULD BE, BUT I'M GOING TO STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU PULL IT NOW AND START LOOKING AT IT BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY INVOLVED. AND I KNOW WHAT THIS BOARD HAS DONE AND NOT DONE IN TERMS OF THIS TYPE OF CASE. SO YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ALL GET OUR DO OUR HOMEWORK. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, OF COURSE I'M AVAILABLE AS WELL. BUT I WOULD GO TO JOSH FIRST ON THIS. OKAY, OKAY. AND HAVING DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? THAT'S IT. OKAY, SO I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. I MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. IT'S BEEN MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY. IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND TO ADJOURN. THIS MEETING MEETING IS ENDED. ALL. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.